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From: Peter Knapper                                     10-Dec-99 22:52:07
  To: Francois Massonneau                               11-Dec-99 00:18:14
Subj: nlmaint

Hi Francois,

 FM> These flags seem to be authorized worldwide.

The Nodelist segment HEADER and TRAILER portions are unique for each ZONE,
that is why the trailer you quoted is valid for YOUR Zone, but those flags are 
NOT valid in THIS Zone. 

For comparison, here is the nodelist trailer taken from the Zone 3
Nodelist.337. I have edited out much of the comments otherwise it would go on
for many more pages, but ALL the acceptable (in Zone 3) flags are listed - 
=========================================================================
;
;S
;S   The following flags define special operating conditions:
;S
;S     Flag      Meaning
;S
;S     CM        Node accepts mail 24 hours a day
;S     MO        Node does not accept human callers
;S     LO        Node accepts calls only from valid listed node
;S               numbers in the current FidoNet Nodelist
;S
;S   The following flags define modem capabilities supported:
;S
;S     Flag      Meaning
;S
;S     V21       ITU-T V21      300 bps full duplex
;S     V22       ITU-T V22     1200 bps full duplex
;S     V29       ITU-T V29     9600 bps half duplex
;S     V32       ITU-T V32     9600 bps full duplex
;S     V32b      ITU-T V32bis 14400 bps full duplex
;S     V33       ITU-T V33
;S     V34       ITU-T V34    28800 bps full duplex
;S
;S     H96       Hayes V9600
;S     HST       USR Courier HST up to 9600
;S     H14       USR Courier HST up to 14400
;S     H16       USR Courier HST up to 16800
;S     MAX       Microcom AX/96xx series
;S     PEP       Packet Ensemble Protocol
;S     CSP       Compucom Speedmodem
;S     ZYX       Zyxel series
;S     VFC       V.Fast Class
;S     V32T      V.32 Terbo
;S
;S   NOTE:  Many V22 modems also support Bell 212A.
;S
;S   If no modem flag is given, Bell 212A is assumed for 1200 bps
;S   systems, ITU-T V22bis is assumed for 2400 bps systems.
;S
;S     V42       ITU-T LAP-M error correction w/fallback to MNP 1-4
;S     V42b      ITU-T V.42 LAP-M plus V.42bis BTLZ data compression
;S     MNP       Microcom Networking Protocol error correction
;S
;S     MN        No compression supported
;S
;S     XA     Frontdoor <1.99b, Frontdoor 2.02+, Dutchie 2.90c
;S            Binkleyterm >2.1, D'Bridge <1.3, TIMS
;S     XB     Binkleyterm 2.0, Dutchie 2.90b
;S     XC     Opus >1.03
;S     XP     SEAdog
;S     XR     Opus 1.03
;S     XW     Fido >12m, Tabby, Trapdoor[1]
;S     XX     D'Bridge 1.30, Frontdoor 1.99b
;S
;S     None   QMM
;S
;S   [1] With default file request processor enabled. If run with an update
;S       request capable processor, the correct flag is XX.
;S
;S     Gx..x     Gateway to domain 'x..x',  where 'x..x` is a string
;S               of alphanumeric characters.
;S
;S     #01       Zone 5 mail hour (01:00 - 02:00 UTC)
;S     #02       Zone 2 mail hour (02:30 - 03:30 UTC)
;S     #08       Zone 4 mail hour (08:00 - 09:00 UTC)
;S     #09       Zone 1 mail hour (09:00 - 10:00 UTC)
;S     #18       Zone 3 mail hour (18:00 - 19:00 UTC)
;S     #20       Zone 6 mail hour (20:00 - 21:00 UTC)
;S
;S   Currently authorised user flags in Zone 3:
;S
;S     IP User-flags:
;S
;S            The IP-user-flags consist of two parts:
;S
;S            A basic transport and an optional non-standard port,
;S            separated by a colon.
;S
;S              IBN[:24554] BinkP protocol
;S
;S              IFC[:60179] Raw protocol as used by ifcico
;S
;S              ITN[:23]    Telnet protocol.
;S
;S              IVM[:3141]  Vmodem protocol
;S
;S              IP          General flag for special protocol 
;S                          specifications, if the other IP-flags 
;S                          are not relevant.
;S
;S    IMI    Mime encoded                                                  
;S    ISE    SEAT encoded                                                  
;S    ITX    TransX compatible                                             
;S    IUC    UUencoded                                                     
;S    IEM    Everything not defined by the aforementioned individual 
;S           flags 
;S
;S     T??    A flag used to described limited hours of operation of a
;S            FidoNet mailer. See FSC-0062 (rev. 3) for specifics.
========================================================================

So you can see that the flags you have available there are different from what 
we have available.

Cheers.............pk.


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From: Jack Stein                                        08-Dec-99 22:09:23
  To: ALL                                               11-Dec-99 06:20:20
Subj: MAX/2 and Adept

Hello ALL!

Can anyone tell me what the current MAX/2 and BINK/2 files are that I would
need to switch my old OPUS system to MAX, and be Y2K compatable, also would
like to grab a current, or a good version of ADEPT.  I think Andy Roberts is
running Adept, how about it Andy, what release are you running, and, is their
a full package around with everything I need to get set up.  

I think I'll try both and see what happens... got about 3 weeks left, just
enough time for a total procrastenator...  

If FIDO is going to survive, I want to be here, if it gunna die, I want to
watch:-)  Bigger problem is our net is losing it's NC and it's main hub, and
not a one of us left that seems to know what to do about it.  We still have
time though:-)

                                              Jack 
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From: Peter Knapper                                     11-Dec-99 16:14:24
  To: Jack Stein                                        11-Dec-99 06:20:20
Subj: MAX/2 and Adept

Hi Jack,

 JS> Can anyone tell me what the current MAX/2 and BINK/2 
 JS> files are that I would need to switch my old OPUS 
 JS> system to MAX, and be Y2K compatable, also would like 
 JS> to grab a current, or a good version of ADEPT.

Bink/2 V2.60 is reported to be ok for Y2k, although there are some minor
cosmetic issues. Bink-XE Beta 6 is reported to be fine for Y2K, although I
have heard some say there are some non-Y2K issues. I have no other details of
XE sorry.

Maximus V3.01 Y2K patch is needed, mainly for cosmetic reasons although I
understand that it handles potential problems in the QWK area better. QWK is
the biggest problem with Fidonet, its date formats are onyl 2 digit years so
that means that ALL QWK S/W must make some assumptions. If the reader does not 
allow for that, then a QWK reply packet may cause issues... I understand that
Maximus Y2K will try and detect/accomodate those problems whereas the previous 
version woudl just accept whatever came in. The Y2K patch goes on top of a
V3.01 release install.

Squish V1.11 Y2k patch is REQUIRED to prevent known problems at Y2K rollover.
It is also installed over original V1.11 release.

All the above can be obtained at www.lanius.com or at the Maximus home page
maintained by Garry Gilmore (links to there available at Lanius).


I have no knowledge of Adept sorry, never found a need to look past a great
Bink/Maximus environment.......;-)

 JS> I think I'll try both and see what happens... got about 
 JS> 3 weeks left, just enough time for a total procrastenator...  

The Y2K files for Maximus/Squish are a simple drop in with no other changes
required, 15 minutes maximum, even for a fudge fingers and the re-boot..;-) 

Warnings -
  1. There is a report of an issue with the INCLUDE directive under Squish,
however I have never used INCLUDE myself so I can't confirm/deny anything in
that area. 
  2. There also may be issues with the DOS version, Scott used a new compiler
for teh Y2K release and executables now require more memory to run, so anyone
running in a memory constrained environment (eg DV) may have to look at that
closely.

I am running all OS/2 versions of the above on my point and the BBS, so it was 
a very painless upgrade.

Dont forget the Y2K versions of Areafix (I use SQAFIX) and Raid (NEF)......;-)

 JS> If FIDO is going to survive, I want to be here, if it 
 JS> gunna die, I want to watch:-)

Feeling a bit blood-thirsty eh???........;-) Of course it will survive. You
just wont know how many finger/toes will be left connected to the body...;-)

 JS> Bigger problem is our 
 JS> net is losing it's NC and it's main hub, and not a one 
 JS> of us left that seems to know what to do about it.  We 
 JS> still have time though:-)

If you haven't already done it, check out Fidonet over Internet. Its quite
easy now to get that running, and there are plenty of IP based hubs to feed
from now. The main problem is finding someone with a real phone line left who
can act as NC, but with IP at least its easier to join an existing net.

Cheers.........pk.


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From: Stewart Buckingham                                11-Dec-99 12:49:09
  To: Kaare Olsen                                       11-Dec-99 10:02:24
Subj: Comms programs for Windows & OS/2

Hi Kaare,

>> My question is: are there ANY decent and reliable comms programs for
>> OS/2 or Windows out there that one can recommend to users and
>> potential users?

> Zap-O-Comm (ZOC) is available for both OS/2 and Windows, and is the best
> communications program I've come across.  It's shareware, about US$70 (a bit
> too expensive, if you ask me).

when I registered some years ago there was a promo (about this time of year... 
Xmas/NewYear) where an OS/2 club member could get it at only $35 (which I
thought was a bargain). Just keep your eyes peeled :)

Stu/2

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From: Gord Hannah                                       11-Dec-99 08:51:25
  To: Jack Stein                                        11-Dec-99 21:24:18
Subj: MAX/2 and Adept

Replying to a message from Jack Stein 1:129/171 to ALL,

About MAX/2 and Adept, On Wed Dec 08 1999

JS> Can anyone tell me what the current MAX/2 and BINK/2 files are that

Max 3.01, Binkley 2.60, I have both here will email them to you if you wish.

JS> compatable, also would like to grab a current, or a good version of
JS> ADEPT.  I think Andy Roberts is running Adept, how about it Andy,
JS> what release are you running, and, is their a full package around
JS> with everything I need to get set up.  

I too run Adept, v 1.11bz2, which can be obtained at
http://cereal.mv.com, you will need to obtain 1.11y full install first.

JS> I think I'll try both and see what happens... got about 3 weeks
JS> left, just enough time for a total procrastenator...  

We can help you with Adept areafix ADEPT_SYSOP and we will do what we can.

JS> If FIDO is going to survive, I want to be here, if it gunna die, I
JS> want to watch:-)  Bigger problem is our net is losing it's NC and

Sadistic SOB aren't you Jack  j/k ??!!! :-)))

JS> it's main hub, and not a one of us left that seems to know what to
JS> do about it.  We still have time though:-)

Take it over yourself Jack.. j/k..:-)
Hope this helps.  Keep us posted.

We are a fine board trying to make it better.
http://www.pris.bc.ca/ghannah
ghannah@pris.bc.ca
Gord
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From: George White                                      10-Dec-99 08:18:02
  To: Dale A Cook                                       12-Dec-99 03:28:24
Subj: Virus checker

Hi Dale,

On 08-Dec-99, Dale A Cook wrote to John Clarke:

 JC>> NAI don't seem to be interested in the OS/2 McAfee virus checker.
 JC>>  I have sent 3 emails asking about it and received nil replies.

 JC>> What other OS/2 virus checkers are available?  I need to protect
 JC>> the operating system and check files imported via the net.

 DAC> Ibm makes a good virus checker.  try a search using ibmav as
 DAC> keyword on snap.com..........

IBM *USED* to make a good virus checker. They sold out (Symantec?).
I think FPROT still do a native OS/2 virus checker.

George

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From: James Mckenzie                                    11-Dec-99 10:47:06
  To: Alan Ianson                                       12-Dec-99 07:18:11
Subj: Lord and Pascal "Run Time" Error

Hello Alan!

08 Dec 99 21:52, Alan Ianson wrote to James Mckenzie:

 JM>> However, I cannot run LORD here as I get the old Pascal
 JM>> "run time" error.  What was the name of that "fix"?

 AI> There is a file about called TPPATCH.ZIP that fixed this problem on a
 AI> friends system. I don't think he used it on LORD, but it may work. It
 AI> can be found I believe on the MultiBoard FTP site
 AI> (ftp.multiboard.com). I can't remember the directory.. but the file is
 AI> called rte200fx.zip there.

Nabbed it.  Will run the necessary checks and tests on the program.

James

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From: Sean Dennis                                       11-Dec-99 10:59:23
  To: Ian Moote                                         12-Dec-99 11:27:01
Subj: Comms programs for Window

RE: Comms programs for Window
BY: Ian Moote to STEVE HAYES on Sun Dec 05 1999 10:30 am

OTE: DCTEdit v0.04 [1]
Hello, Ian!

 > ZOC is supposed to be good. I don't use it, but a friend of mine did and
 > liked it so much that he got the version for Windows 95 when he
 > abandoned OS/2.

ZOC, however, has a nasty little problem when connecting to a Maximus BBS.  
You have to turn off the "send CRLF" option, else ZOC will screw up your 
connection badly.  I use it here, and it's OK.  I prefer mTel (which is free 
and easily obtained) for telnetting to BBSes.  I use ZOC to telnet to other 
places because it has a "chat line" (basically a line where you can type and 
have a backspace to correct mistakes).

Later,
Sean
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From: Leonard Erickson                                  12-Dec-99 05:09:01
  To: Peter Knapper                                     12-Dec-99 13:21:29
Subj: MAX/2 and Adept

 -=> Quoting Peter Knapper to Jack Stein <=-

 PK> Hi Jack,
 
 JS> Can anyone tell me what the current MAX/2 and BINK/2 
 JS> files are that I would need to switch my old OPUS 
 JS> system to MAX, and be Y2K compatable, also would like 
 JS> to grab a current, or a good version of ADEPT.

 PK> Bink/2 V2.60 is reported to be ok for Y2k, although there are some
 PK> minor cosmetic issues. Bink-XE Beta 6 is reported to be fine for Y2K,
 PK> although I have heard some say there are some non-Y2K issues. I have
 PK> no other details of XE sorry. 

Why not use the OS/2 version of FD? It's Y2K tested.


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From: Jack Stein                                        12-Dec-99 07:47:08
  To: Peter Knapper                                     12-Dec-99 20:14:14
Subj: MAX/2 and Adept

Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Jack Stein:

 JS> Can anyone tell me what the current MAX/2 and BINK/2 
 JS> files are that I would need to switch my old OPUS 
 JS> system to MAX, and be Y2K compatable, also would like 
 JS> to grab a current, or a good version of ADEPT.

 PK> All the above can be obtained at www.lanius.com or at the
 PK> Maximus home page maintained by Garry Gilmore (links to
 PK> there available at Lanius). 

Thanks Peter, I went there, got about everything I needed, and then some.

Now all I need is to get busy:-)

 JS> If FIDO is going to survive, I want to be here, if it 
 JS> gunna die, I want to watch:-)

 PK> Feeling a bit blood-thirsty eh???........;-) Of course it
 PK> will survive. You just wont know how many finger/toes will
 PK> be left connected to the body...;-) 

We're "down" to about 18,000 nodes now, If we can keep half of them around
after Y2K we should be able to survive.  The internet is a perfect workhorse
for Fido, much better and cheaper than it used to be, and files are a
non-issue, so I look at it as just a much better method of running conferences 
than the newsgroups.  

 PK> If you haven't already done it, check out Fidonet over
 PK> Internet. Its quite easy now to get that running, and there
 PK> are plenty of IP based hubs to feed from now. 

I haven't looked into that yet, but, I think it's got to happen soon, or we
will lose our net.  We are only about 20 nodes now, down from 130, and Y2K
hasn't hit yet.  Lots of us are running old software.  My hub has been running 
OS/2 2.1 and an OLD version of OPUS.  The NEW version of OPUS is 10 years old, 
that's what I run:-)

                                              Jack 
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From: Jack Stein                                        12-Dec-99 08:14:25
  To: Gord Hannah                                       12-Dec-99 20:14:14
Subj: MAX/2 and Adept

Gord Hannah wrote in a message to Jack Stein:

 GH> Replying to a message from Jack Stein 1:129/171 to ALL,

 GH> About MAX/2 and Adept, On Wed Dec 08 1999

JS> Can anyone tell me what the current MAX/2 and BINK/2 files are that

 GH> Max 3.01, Binkley 2.60, I have both here will email them to
 GH> you if you wish. 

Thanks Gord, I got everything I need, thanks to Peter.

JS> compatable, also would like to grab a current, or a good 
JS> version of ADEPT.  I think Andy Roberts is running Adept, how 
JS> about it Andy, what release are you running, and, is their a 
JS> full package around with everything I need to get set up.  

 GH> I too run Adept, v 1.11bz2, which can be obtained at
 GH> http://cereal.mv.com, you will need to obtain 1.11y full
 GH> install first. 

Thanks, I grab that as well, but most likely will go with Max for now, since
I'm familar with it's format.  I should have switched years ago, but just
never "gotaroundtoit".

JS> If FIDO is going to survive, I want to be here, if it gunna die, I
JS> want to watch:-)  Bigger problem is our net is losing it's NC and

 GH> Sadistic SOB aren't you Jack  j/k ??!!! :-)))

I dunno, I think I'd go into withdrawal if I lost my Fido mail capacity.  On
the other hand, my interests are changing a little.  I'm into pool pretty much 
now, and computing is starting to give me a headache.  

I am setting up a Web page, but don't know what the hell to do with the thing. 
I've been to yours, pretty nice work.  Mine's not ready yet, but, I have some
links to files I like, and some OS/2 sites.  Check it out at
members.bellatlantic.net\~jbstein  next time you're out and about.

JS> it's main hub, and not a one of us left that seems to know what 
JS> to do about it.  We still have time though:-)

 GH> Take it over yourself Jack.. j/k..:-)

I'm not up to that task yet.  I've thought about it though, too much to figure 
out.

                                              Jack 
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From: Francois Massonneau                               12-Dec-99 09:42:17
  To: Peter Knapper                                     13-Dec-99 00:18:26
Subj: nlmaint

Hello Peter!

Replying to a message of Peter Knapper to Francois Massonneau:

 FM>> These flags seem to be authorized worldwide.

 PK> The Nodelist segment HEADER and TRAILER portions are unique for each
 PK> ZONE, that is why the trailer you quoted is valid for YOUR Zone, but
 PK> those flags are NOT valid in THIS Zone. 

OK, I didn't know that. I thought the nodelist (and its header and trailer)
was the same everywhere,

Bye, Francois!


Email: fmas@celtes.com
Web  : http://www.worldnet.net/~island/

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From: George White                                      11-Dec-99 08:22:19
  To: Francois Massonneau                               13-Dec-99 03:32:21
Subj: nlmaint

Hi Francois,

On 08-Dec-99, Francois Massonneau wrote to Peter Knapper:

 PK>> There is also a qualified block on flags that start with X. Any
 PK>> manual X flag you wish to define can only be 2 chars long, to
 PK>> allow continuation of the existing use of the X flags for file
 PK>> request logic (XA, XB, XC, etc...) So NLMAINT will not allow
 PK>> you to include flags that start with X (other than as above).

 FM> I know the source code of NLMAINT has been released (I have it
 FM> here) and I hope someone will be able to take it and make the
 FM> changes needed. NLMAINT Is a great OS/2 program This is part of
 FM> a message David Nugent (the author of NLMAINT) sent me a while
 FM> ago

Where can it be found in the Net (cheaper than an International FREQ)?
My boss collects source for orphaned OS/2 code when he finds it.

 FM> ----------------------------------------
 FM> >Are you still supporting it ?
 FM> >If so, can I report a bug ?

 FM> No, and no. I'm no longer in FidoNet and have no interest in working on
 FM> it
 FM> any further. This is why source code was released.

 FM> Regards,
 FM> David
 FM> ----------------------------------------

That is a sad loss to FIDO, David was a very good moderator when he
was active.

George

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From: Peter Knapper                                     13-Dec-99 20:02:04
  To: Leonard Erickson                                  13-Dec-99 21:26:09
Subj: MAX/2 and Adept

Hi Leonard,

 -=> Quoting Peter Knapper to Jack Stein <=-

 JS> Can anyone tell me what the current MAX/2 and BINK/2 
 JS> files are that I would need to switch my old OPUS 
 JS> system to MAX, and be Y2K compatable, also would like 
 JS> to grab a current, or a good version of ADEPT.

 PK> Bink/2 V2.60 is reported to be ok for Y2k, although there are some
 PK> minor cosmetic issues. Bink-XE Beta 6 is reported to be fine for Y2K,
 PK> although I have heard some say there are some non-Y2K issues. I have
 PK> no other details of XE sorry. 

 LE> Why not use the OS/2 version of FD? It's Y2K tested.

I ran FD exactly once, many years ago, ditched it, moved to Bink and never
looked back. I have never liked the way FD works, I prefer Bink style
Outbounds.

Cheers...........pk.


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From: Leonard Erickson                                  13-Dec-99 03:01:04
  To: Francois Massonneau                               13-Dec-99 21:26:09
Subj: nlmaint

 -=> Quoting Francois Massonneau to Peter Knapper <=-

 FM>> These flags seem to be authorized worldwide.
 
 PK> The Nodelist segment HEADER and TRAILER portions are unique for each
 PK> ZONE, that is why the trailer you quoted is valid for YOUR Zone, but
 PK> those flags are NOT valid in THIS Zone. 

 FM> OK, I didn't know that. I thought the nodelist (and its header and
 FM> trailer) was the same everywhere, 

Not only are the header/trailer different, but each Zone's version of
the nodelist has that zone first (to minimize search time)

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From: SINISA PAVLOVIC                                   13-Dec-99 19:03:00
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 21:26:10
Subj: Re: Virus checker

From: sinip@hamhq.yfnet.org.yu (SINISA PAVLOVIC)
Reply-To: sinip@hamhq.yfnet.org.yu (SINISA PAVLOVIC)
Organization: HAM HQ BBS, Doboj, RS, 074/24-360

 -=> Quoting John Clarke to All <=-

 JC> What other OS/2 virus checkers are available?  I need to protect the
 JC> operating system and check files imported via the net.

Anti Viral Toolkit Pro, shortly AVP. Native OS/2 version.

Posjetite: http://www.targetshop.com/users/level1.asp?refId=349351

Pozdrav iz Doboja, RS.                        e-mail: 4n4da@qsl.net


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