
                  OS/2 Hardware Issues             (Fidonet)

                 Saturday, 06-Nov-1999 to Friday, 12-Nov-1999

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From: Dick Laabs                                        07-Nov-99 07:07:10
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 07:07:10
Subj: 3com isdn ext

Trying to get an 3Com ISDN ext modem to work with Warp4 fix8
Working fine under W95 !
Have Injoy ?
Something I'm doing wrong -Grey matter gone ( or going )
Anyone using such an animal , that can kick me in the right
direction ?
  Ole Dick

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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    03-Nov-99 12:22:15
  To: August Abolins                                    07-Nov-99 14:47:09
Subj: 2 Adaptec SCSI's compatible?

Hello August,

01 Nov 99 11:14, August Abolins wrote to Kari Suomela:

AA> Do you know if the AVA-1505 could conceivably support other additional
AA> devices?

I think it will, that SCSI card just has no SCSI ROM to allow booting from a
SCSI harddisk connected to it.

AA> I suppose it would just be a simple matter to "chain" the next device
AA> from the scanner - assuming that there's an exta port to allow it,

That should do it.

AA> Another thing I failed to consider, is OS/2 support for the Agfa
AA> scanner! I mean.. the scanning software!  :(   Shit.. looks like I
AA> might have to convert to W95 afterall.

What about a picture editing program which can also be used for scanning
(PMView, Galleria, or others) and a TWAIN driver package (cfm or Twain for
OS/2 from Solution Technology, Inc.)?

  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: eddy.thilleman@net.hcc.nl

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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    04-Nov-99 11:32:29
  To: Jean-Michel Dossogne                              07-Nov-99 14:47:09
Subj: multi changer

Hello Jean-Michel,

03 Nov 99 07:26, Jean-Michel Dossogne wrote to All:

JD>>>> I have a nakamichi changer, as it came as OEM, it's
JD>>>> software-less.... any idea where I could find that marvel?

Is that changer a SCSI version? If so and you're trying to access all cdroms
in that changer, try the /ET switch to the SCSI hostadapter driver in
config.sys and reboot.

  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: eddy.thilleman@net.hcc.nl

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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    04-Nov-99 11:38:06
  To: Ray Hyder                                         07-Nov-99 14:47:09
Subj: Scroll wheel support

Hello Ray,

03 Nov 99 01:53, Ray Hyder wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

RH> Eddy, I've heard that the scroll wheel support for OS/2 is buggy and
RH> can cause serious problems.  Are you saying it works?  - ray

It works for me, and I don't have any problem with it.

My Logitech "Pilot Mouse+" mouse is attached to the PS/2 port.


From the doc file:

SCROLLMS.TXT File
ScrollPoint Mouse Device Driver for OS/2
Version 2.01


2.0 Hardware Considerations
---------------------------

1.  This ScrollPoint Mouse device driver only supports a Mouse Port (PS/2)
    attachment. Attachment of your scrolling mouse through a serial port
    connector is not supported.

2.  This driver only runs effectively in a uni-processor system.  You
    may experience reliability problems in a system running multiple
    processors.

3.  If you are attaching your scrolling mouse to a notebook computer
    such as an IBM ThinkPad that has a built-in mouse, you may have to
    disable the built-in mouse to ensure your scrolling mouse
    stick/wheel scroller works properly.



3.0 Scrolling Mouse Operating Parameters
----------------------------------------

The ScrollPoint Mouse driver supports both stick-type (ie., IBM
ScrollPoint) and wheel-type (ie., Logitech MouseMan+) scrolling mice.
The physical attributes of the scroller device in your scrolling mouse
determines the operational characteristics of the scrolling portion of
the mouse.  Other features, including button functions, are the same as
on a non-scrolling mouse.



  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: eddy.thilleman@net.hcc.nl

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From: Holger Granholm                                   04-Nov-99 20:31:00
  To: Rachel Veraa                                      07-Nov-99 14:47:09
Subj: Parallel devices

In a message dated 11-01-99, Rachel Veraa said to All:

RV>Now I'm wondering -- forgive me if this is a stupid and naive
RV>question -- if I have to disconnect the scanner every time I want to
RV>use the Zip drive, or -- if I can "chain" them by plugging the Zip
RV>drive into the scanner (where the printer is now) and plug the
RV>printer cable into the zip drive. Is this possible?

Hello Rachel,

There is another alternative. Some motherboards come with a header for
LPT2. In that case you only have to add a expansion board plate with a
LPT connector.

If your doesn't, expansion cards with a connector for LPT2 come really
cheap (typically USD 30.00 or less).

The only thing you have to look out for is that your sound card may want
to use the same interrupt. In that case change it.

Have a nice day,

Holger

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From: Nick Andre                                        06-Nov-99 04:03:01
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 14:47:09
Subj: WORM drive problem

Hi!

I picked up the following from work today, all in a bundle:

- Adaptec 1510 ISA SCSI controller. Has only one jumper bank, set to "I1".
- Various cables... too many to mention.
- Corel 5.25" external SCSI WORM drive. ("Mfg by Panasonic in 1991" on back)
- 940MB "Write once" disks.
- 1GB "rewritable" disks.
- Cleaning disk.

All of these were in one box sitting around the lab, so none of these items 
could've been picked up seperately - The disks have labels detailing "backups" 

of various things, so I'm assuming they all have data on them already.

My system is:

- 486DX2/66Mhz, 32MB RAM, all ISA bus. Award BIOS.
- ISA IDE controller, two hard drives (99MB each), two floppies (1.2/1.44MB)
- 16 color EGA video adapter.
- Sound Blaster Pro 2, with a Panasonic 2x CD-ROM drive, set for IRQ7, DMA 0.
- Rockwell 33.6 internal modem, set for COM2, IRQ3.
- OS/2 Warp 3.0 Redspine, no fixpacks. HPFS installation.
- No other tasks running when the problems happen.

I have the following lines in my CONFIG.SYS file to get things running:

BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD /ET /V
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OPTICAL.SYS

The Corel drive has the following DIP switches turned on, although OS/2 
doesn't seem to care about these. I played with them all night to see if this 
solves the problem, but it doesn't. I've left the following jumpers enabled:

- "Termination", I have no idea what this means.
- Parity checking, although OS/2 doesn't seem to care about this.
- Auto start on powerup.

Now, I managed to get the controller and drive to power up, HOWEVER, OS/2 
crashes during the following:

- OS/2 reports "drive is not functioning" when I insert a 940MB disk.

- And OS/2 crashes completely when I insert one of the 1GB disks. CTL+ALT+DEL 
  reboots the system, but does not reset the Adaptec controller card. This 
  causes the ADD driver not to load, thus OS2SCSI.DMD and OPTICAL.SYS don't 
  get installed at all.

- If I leave a 1GB disk in the drive during bootup, OS/2 will crash completely 

  just before loading PM... but this doesn't happen with a 940MB disk.

- It doesn't matter if I toggle the write-protect tab on the disks.

The LED flashes during loading, the drive appears to power up & spin 
perfectly... and OS/2 properly reports "drive not ready" when theres no disk 
in the drive. So, I'm assuming nothings wrong with the drive itself.
Otherwise, other strange things would happen, right?

I hit ALT+F2 to display the drivers as OS/2 boots up... its taking OS/2 a REAL 

long time to load the aha152x.add driver. The drive also "resets" itself 
during this time (motor powers down-then-up briefly and the LED flashes 
quickly). OS2SCSI.DMD and OPTICAL.SYS load perfectly.

Any suggestions? I *really* want to get this drive working for my BBS! Now, 
I'm a total idiot when it comes to SCSI, so ANY help is appreciated. :(


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From: Ray Hyder                                         06-Nov-99 22:27:00
  To: Eddy Thilleman                                    07-Nov-99 14:47:09
Subj: Scroll wheel support

 
 * Reply to a msg from Eddy Thilleman @ 2:500/143 on 11-04-99     
 
 ET> It works for me, and I don't have any problem with it. 
 ET> My Logitech "Pilot Mouse+" mouse is attached to the PS/2 port. 
 
I have this uneasy feeling that I have a different animal that is for WIN
consumption only since it is causing problems with DOS applications. 
 
It is a PS/2 mouse.  OS/2 finds it on the PS/2 port and it works perfectly as 
a two button mouse. It's a logitech mouse. 
 
Identification from the bottom of the mouse: 
 
M/N: M-CAB48A 
 
P/N: 811438-0000 
 
I either have a bad mouse or a bad mouse PS/2 mouse port.  - ray  
 
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From: Jean-Michel Dossogne                              06-Nov-99 14:37:05
  To: Eddy Thilleman                                    07-Nov-99 14:47:09
Subj: multi changer

Hello Eddy.

Jeudi 04 Novembre 1999 11:32, Eddy Thilleman wrote to Jean-Michel Dossogne:

 JD>>>>> I have a nakamichi changer, as it came as OEM, it's
 JD>>>>> software-less.... any idea where I could find that marvel?
 ET> Is that changer a SCSI version? If so and you're trying to access all
 ET> cdroms in that changer, try the /ET switch to the SCSI hostadapter driver
 ET> in config.sys and reboot.
well, that works indeed but... it then takes 18 drive letters!
am looking for "something" to allow it to work on a single letter.

Jean-Michel

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From: Don Guy                                           07-Nov-99 13:09:27
  To: Nick Andre                                        08-Nov-99 13:55:23
Subj: WORM drive problem

Greetings Nick!

I'm not afraid to admit that I'm relatively new to the world of SCSI, but here 
are my 2 in any case.  :-)

   A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, a coded message from Nick Andre 
to All was intercepted...

 NA> - Adaptec 1510 ISA SCSI controller. Has only one jumper bank, set to
 NA> "I1".

The jumper pairs I2, I1, I0 & I9 are for setting the 1510's interrupt--12, 11, 
10 and 9 respectively.  The fifth jumper pair selects the base address of the
1510--open selects 0x340, closed selects 0x140.

 NA> BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD /ET /V

I could be wrong, but you probably don't need the /ET switch.

 NA> The Corel drive has the following DIP switches turned on,
<snip>

 NA> - "Termination", I have no idea what this means.

Assuming that the Corel drive is the only SCSI device attached to the 1510,
termination should be enabled.  Also, check that the 1510 has three little SIP 
resistor packs installed just below the internal connector.

The drive likely also has some method for selecting the SCSI device id.  The
1510 occupies device #7, so pick something else for the drive.

Hope this helps...

-Don



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From: Stewart Honsberger                                08-Nov-99 10:29:18
  To: John Thompson                                     08-Nov-99 16:29:27
Subj: Big Hard Drives & War

26 Oct 99 15:52, John Thompson wrote to Ray Hyder:

 RH>> Partition Magic (4.0) here can't even find my Logitech PS/2 CE mouse. 
 RH>>  It's not
 RH>> likely that I would trust PQMAGIC with anything on this system. 
 RH>>  
 RH>> I rate Partition Magic in the mostly sucks category.  - ray

 JT> Geez...just copy your Logitech mouse drivers onto the Partition 
 JT> Magic diskette.  Works for me...

Sounds like common sense to me. I use mouse.com (DOS mouse driver) on a
DOS boot disk w/ the DOS version of PQMAGIC.

Stewart Honsberger,
  blackdeath@tinys.oix.com

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From: Stewart Honsberger                                08-Nov-99 10:28:25
  To: Bat Lang                                          08-Nov-99 16:29:27
Subj: EIDE HDD >8.4Gb

25 Oct 99 23:36, Bat Lang wrote to All:

 BL> I realize that the IDEDASD.EXE was developed to overcome the <subj>.
 BL> My question: Is there some level of FixPak, after which IDEDASD.EXE 
 BL> is superfluous because it is accomplished in the FixPak? If so, what 
 BL> FP?

ISTR that FP8 or later includes large disk support.

Stewart Honsberger,
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From: Dave Davidson                                     08-Nov-99 06:36:04
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 23:29:27
Subj: Internal ZIP 100 drive & Warp 4

 Anyone have any insight towards getting my Internal ZIP 100 to work with
 Warp4?

 All the files I've downloaded, are for either the parallel port or SCSI
 models, and _NOT_ the ATAPI Internal.

 I thought the latest IBM1S506.ADD supported the ZIP and Imation removable
 drives, but so far, nothing! Everything works fine under WIN9x, but not
 OS/2.

 Also, does anyone know of any sound drivers for OS/2 that supports the
 CMEDIA 8330 PCI sound card? According to the docs and the .INF file, it
 is SB16 compatible, but won't do anything under OS/2.

 Thanks...


 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com

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From: Dave Davidson                                     08-Nov-99 06:46:02
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 23:29:27
Subj: External HP CD-RW

 Another quickie.....

 I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R units on the OS/2
 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both WIN9x & OS/2 versions, since it
 supports the HP 7200 unit.

 It works fine under WIN9x, but OS/2 doesn't _see_ the external unit at
 all. The RJS software runs, but indicates it couldn't locate any supported
 device.

 Is this something that's fixable or am I simply SOL?

 Thanks...
 
 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com

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From: Garth Ramsay                                      07-Nov-99 23:09:24
  To: Ray Hyder                                         08-Nov-99 23:29:27
Subj: Scroll wheel support

06-Nov-99 22:27:00, Ray Hyder wrote to Eddy Thilleman
          Subject: Scroll wheel support


  Hi Ray

 RH> * Reply to a msg from Eddy Thilleman @ 2:500/143 on 11-04-99
 ET>> It works for me, and I don't have any problem with it. My

 RH> M-CAB48A  P/N: 811438-0000  I either have a bad mouse or a bad
 RH> mouse PS/2 mouse port.  - ray

I'm running a Celron 300A (yes it does run comfortably at 450) with
128 meg ram and a Matrox G200 8meg video card with a Logitech M-S48
wheel mouse.
 When I use the installation routine to install the driver and the
utilities my machine locks up and the only solution I've been able to
find was a RE-Install of the OS.
If I extract the mouse.sys file from the wheelmouse archive and use
it instead of the stock OS\2 one all is well. The wheel works and I'm
almost a happy guy.
 It would be nice to be able to use the third button/wheel as a button
and not just a wheel and for this I need the utilities and to get the
utilities I seems I have to run the installation routine this seems to
hang my system big time.

Any Ideas???

PS: Yes I have tried it with the CPU set to 300mhz.


 -=> Garth Ramsay <=-

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From: Andy Roberts                                      08-Nov-99 16:25:15
  To: Dave Davidson                                     08-Nov-99 23:29:27
Subj: External HP CD-RW

 Dave Davidson,

08-Nov-99 06:46:04, Dave Davidson wrote to All
          Subject: External HP CD-RW

 DD> I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R units on
 DD> the OS/2 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both WIN9x & OS/2
 DD> versions, since it supports the HP 7200 unit.

 DD> It works fine under WIN9x, but OS/2 doesn't _see_ the external
 DD> unit at all. The RJS software runs, but indicates it couldn't
 DD> locate any supported device.

--- Excerpt Config.sys ---
REM *** RSJ CD-WRITER FILE SYSTEM ***
BASEDEV=RSJIDECD.FLT
BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT
DEVICE=D:\CDWFS\RSJSCSI.SYS
IFS=D:\CDWFS\CDWFS.IFS
RUN=D:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -P "H:/TEMP" -C680000 -B2048 -T2 -I3 -S2
REM BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT
---

Note: lockcdr.flt rsjidecd.FLT rsjidecd.sym and CDFS.IFS are all in my boot
drive root directory.

Question: Is your CDR by itself or on the same port as a printer?

     Thanks and Good Luck,        Andy Roberts
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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    07-Nov-99 19:19:07
  To: Nick Andre                                        09-Nov-99 09:18:09
Subj: WORM drive problem

Hello Nick,

06 Nov 99 04:03, Nick Andre wrote to All:

NA> - 486DX2/66Mhz, 32MB RAM, all ISA bus. Award BIOS.

Try with 16 MB RAM instead of 32 MB RAM (if it's possible), and see what
happens.

Problably the Adaptec 1510 ISA SCSI host adapter is not a busmaster (in that
case it wouldn't make a difference), but I'm not sure.

  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: eddy.thilleman@net.hcc.nl

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From: Matt Bedynek                                      08-Nov-99 22:34:27
  To: Don Guy                                           09-Nov-99 09:18:09
Subj: Fun with SCSI

Hello Don.

Saturday October 30 1999 13:55, Don Guy wrote to Matt Bedynek:

 MB>> see a screen which says to press a certain key to enter SCSI bios
 MB>> setup?

 DG> No such beast, I'm afraid.

 DG> Not that it matters any more--I've switched back to the Adaptec 1510.

Adaptec rocks! :)

It's all I've ever run, but I also heard that DPT is really good.

Rgds, Matt.

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From: James Mckenzie                                    09-Nov-99 05:49:06
  To: Dave Davidson                                     09-Nov-99 13:18:01
Subj: Internal ZIP 100 drive & Warp 4

Hello Dave!

08 Nov 99 06:36, Dave Davidson wrote to All:

 DD>  Anyone have any insight towards getting my Internal ZIP 100 to work
 DD> with Warp4?

 DD>  All the files I've downloaded, are for either the parallel port or
 DD> SCSI models, and _NOT_ the ATAPI Internal.

Which fixpack of Warp do you have installed?  FP10 here and the ATAPI Zip
drive is doing fine.

 DD>  I thought the latest IBM1S506.ADD supported the ZIP and Imation
 DD> removable drives, but so far, nothing! Everything works fine under
 DD> WIN9x, but not OS/2.

Check your settings on the drive!  It should be the first device (Master) on
the Secondary IDE channel from what I remember.

James

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From: Dave Davidson                                     08-Nov-99 18:40:22
  To: Andy Roberts                                      09-Nov-99 15:11:21
Subj: External HP CD-RW

Hiya Andy,

08-Nov-99 16:25:31, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: External HP CD-RW
 AR> 08-Nov-99 06:46:04, Dave Davidson wrote to All Subject: External
 AR> HP CD-RW

 DD>> I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R units on
 DD>> the OS/2 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both WIN9x & OS/2
 DD>> versions, since it supports the HP 7200 unit.

 AR> REM *** RSJ CD-WRITER FILE SYSTEM *** BASEDEV=RSJIDECD.FLT
 AR> BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT DEVICE=D:\CDWFS\RSJSCSI.SYS
 AR> IFS=D:\CDWFS\CDWFS.IFS RUN=D:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -P "H:/TEMP"
 AR> -C680000 -B2048 -T2 -I3 -S2 REM BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT ---

 AR> Note: lockcdr.flt rsjidecd.FLT rsjidecd.sym and CDFS.IFS are all
 AR> in my boot drive root directory.

 AR> Question: Is your CDR by itself or on the same port as a printer?

 Yes & No..... It's currently the only device on the parallel port. I
 haven't installed a printer yet, but when I do, I have a few options.

 1> I can swap the CD-RW with the printer...

 2> Run the printer on the pass thru port of the CD-RW...

 3> Install a second Parallel Port and dedicate it to either the
    CD=RW or the printer.

 I'd prefer either option 1 or 2, but will do 3 if absolutely necessary.

 WIN9x on my Toshiba Notebook will detect which of the 4 parallel port
 devices I have is connected ie; Canon BJC-80, HP CD-RW, QD 2.5GB Hard Drive
 or Iomega Zip. All drivers are loaded and whichever is hooked up, works.
 If none are available, the system still loads & runs properly.

 Now ya know why I've said I have a L O N G learning curve ahead of me. <g>

 
 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
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From: Andy Roberts                                      09-Nov-99 09:48:28
  To: Dave Davidson                                     09-Nov-99 15:11:21
Subj: External HP CD-RW

 Dave Davidson,

08-Nov-99 18:40:45, Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts
 DD> 08-Nov-99 16:25:31, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
 AR> 08-Nov-99 06:46:04, Dave Davidson wrote to All
 AR> Subject: External HP CD-RW

 DD>>> I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R units on
 DD>>> the OS/2 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both WIN9x & OS/2
 DD>>> versions, since it supports the HP 7200 unit.

 DD> WIN9x on my Toshiba Notebook will detect which of the 4 parallel
 DD> port devices I have is connected ie; Canon BJC-80, HP CD-RW, QD
 DD> 2.5GB Hard Drive or Iomega Zip. All drivers are loaded and
 DD> whichever is hooked up, works. If none are available, the system
 DD> still loads & runs properly.

If you swap hardware around on the same parallel port under OS/2, then it is
likely that you will have to use Alt-F1 when you see the little white box in
the upper left corner with OS/2 beside it during boot, then select full
hardware detection.

To see if it was detected click on the Icon for "OS/2 System", then "System
Setup", then "Hardware Manager".

 DD> Now ya know why I've said I have a L O N G learning curve ahead of
 DD> me. <g>

Personally I read this echo to see which hardware is supported and works best
before I spend money on devices that are intended primarily for M$.  IMO that
includes parallel port CDR and Scanners and Zip drives and WinPrinters etc.
While those devices are usually cheaper they almost always have lower
performance and higher time required for setup and locating drivers.  So in
the end saving a few $ in exchange for many hours of frustration is just not
worth it.

There is no chance in hell that IBM will ever try to support all the cheapest
M$ hardware for it's "industrial strength" OS/2.  The paying commercial
customers that use OS/2 really don't want the lower performance that goes
along with those cheap devices.  And those commercial customers are not likely
to attempt to change their hardware setup on the fly several times a day.  Nor
do they reboot very often.  So some of the things you can do under WinXX are
not going to work under OS/2.  That is not to say OS/2 can not perform those
tasks, rather that OS/2 will more likely work better if higher quality devices
like a SCSI CDR or Scanner are used.  And once setup you leave them connected.

If it wasn't you, then I would not have bothered with this thread, since I
consider anyone who bought a cheap parallel port CDR or Scanner had no
consideration for OS/2 at all when they bought that device.  And I don't have
much patience trying to get M$ devices to work under OS/2.  For those users
they deserve what they get, which is limited to M$.  And I know I mentioned to
you before you got that parallel port CDR, that it was not a good idea if you
ever planned to use it under OS/2.  I have a feeling very few others in this
echo have 1 of those parallel port CDRs, because they all heeded the warning
and did their homework before they wasted their money.  So if you try all the
suggestions and they all fail, then sell it to a M$ addict and add a few $
more and go buy a good SCSI CDR.

     Thanks and Good Luck,        Andy Roberts
                                  andy@shentel.net
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From: Oscar Waghorn                                     09-Nov-99 17:36:25
  To: all                                               09-Nov-99 20:07:28
Subj: Daimond V330 video card drives

I've got a diamond V330 AGP video card are there drivers available for this
anywere ? Diamond of course dont support OS/2 or any opsys which isnt windows
for that matter.
thanks Oscar

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From: MIKE RUSKAI                                       09-Nov-99 17:33:00
  To: BAT LANG                                          09-Nov-99 22:40:27
Subj: EIDE HDD >8.4Gb

[This may be a duplicate message.  My Fido host had a glitch]
[that prevented mail from going out for an unspecified      ]
[length of time, so I have to repost recent messages.       ]


Some senseless babbling from Bat Lang to All
on 10-25-99  23:36 about EIDE HDD >8.4Gb...

 BL> I realize that the IDEDASD.EXE was developed to overcome the
<subj>.
 BL> My question: Is there some level of FixPak, after which IDEDASD.EXE
is
 BL> superfluous because it is accomplished in the FixPak? If so, what
FP?

 BL> Reason: I am seriously looking at an IBM 10Gb HDD. Thanks for any
 BL> info, and Good Modeming!  /\oo/\

Here's what the text at the device drive repository says:

This package contains updates to the support in FP35 and FP6, extending
support to fixed Enhanced IDE drives greater than 8.4GB, fixing some
prob-
lems, and adding additional documentation on removable media support. If
you install or have installed fixpaks newer than FP42 or FP12 then this
package is not required. FixPak 35 (FP35) for Warp 3 and FixPak 6 (FP6)
for
Warp 4 extended support for fixed Enhanced IDE drives to sizes up to
8.4GB
and added new caching HPFS and FAT file system support for removable
media
drives such as SCSI Syquest Syjet 1.5GB portable hard drive and the
Iomega
jaz 1GB and 2GB personal hard drives.

Mike Ruskai
thannymeister@yahoo.com

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From: Holger Granholm                                   09-Nov-99 21:47:00
  To: Dave Davidson                                     10-Nov-99 07:24:20
Subj: Internal ZIP 100 drive &

In a message dated 11-08-99, Dave Davidson said to All:

DD>@SUBJECT:Internal ZIP 100 drive & Warp 4                            

Hello Dave,

DD> Also, does anyone know of any sound drivers for OS/2 that supports
DD>the CMEDIA 8330 PCI sound card? According to the docs and the .INF
DD>file, it is SB16 compatible, but won't do anything under OS/2.

Well, there are a lot of different SB16 cards so you'd have to try
different OS/2 drivers to find out which SB16 it is compatible with.

I'm also getting a SB16 PCI to replace the ISA card currently in use.
We'll see how I fare with that.

Have a nice day,

Holger

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From: George Fliger                                     09-Nov-99 05:58:05
  To: Dave Davidson                                     10-Nov-99 07:24:20
Subj: Re: External HP CD-RW

On 8 Nov 99 06:46am, Dave Davidson wrote to All:

 DD>  Another quickie.....

 DD>  I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R units
 DD>  on the OS/2 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both WIN9x &
 DD>  OS/2 versions, since it supports the HP 7200 unit.

 DD>  It works fine under WIN9x, but OS/2 doesn't _see_ the external
 DD>  unit at all. The RJS software runs, but indicates it couldn't
 DD>  locate any supported device.

 DD>  Is this something that's fixable or am I simply SOL?

At this point in time RSJ only supports SCSI and IDE style CDR/RW
devices.  Parallel port devices are not supported.

George


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From: Linda Proulx                                      09-Nov-99 19:40:18
  To: Dave Davidson                                     10-Nov-99 07:24:20
Subj: Re: External HP CD-RW

Greetings and Salutations,

     -=> Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts <=-

 DD>     CD=RW or the printer.

Or you can get a parallel switch box.  they run from very simple to very
fancy.


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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    08-Nov-99 12:40:16
  To: Ray Hyder                                         10-Nov-99 09:55:08
Subj: Scroll wheel support

Hello Ray,

06 Nov 99 22:27, Ray Hyder wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

ET>> It works for me, and I don't have any problem with it.
ET>> My Logitech "Pilot Mouse+" mouse is attached to the PS/2 port.

RH> I have this uneasy feeling that I have a different animal that is for
RH> WIN consumption only since it is causing problems with DOS
RH> applications.

This could have many causes. DOS mouse driver? enough real memory available
(that problem doesn't exist with OS/2)?

RH> It is a PS/2 mouse.  OS/2 finds it on the PS/2 port and it works
RH> perfectly as a two button mouse. It's a logitech mouse.

RH> Identification from the bottom of the mouse:

RH> M/N: M-CAB48A

The model number on the bottom of my mouse: M-C48

RH> P/N: 811438-0000

While there is no number with "P/N" in front of it on the bottom of my mouse,
I find a similar number: 811375-0000

RH> I either have a bad mouse or a bad mouse PS/2 mouse port.  - ray

You can try your mouse with a windows version and the windows drivers
delivered with it, then you can at least either confirm that your mouse is the 
problem or confirm it's fine. I think the cause of such a problem can only be
found by eliminating any (theorically) possible cause by confirming that's not 
the cause (this means lots of testing). If test on your system with the
windows and windows drivers and if that's working OK, then the hardware is
fine and the cause then is very likely to be in the software or in the
software setup. But you need to test this.

  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: eddy.thilleman@net.hcc.nl

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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    08-Nov-99 13:03:07
  To: Jean-Michel Dossogne                              10-Nov-99 09:55:08
Subj: multi changer

Hello Jean-Michel,

06 Nov 99 14:37, Jean-Michel Dossogne wrote to Eddy Thilleman:

JD>>>>>> I have a nakamichi changer, as it came as OEM, it's
JD>>>>>> software-less.... any idea where I could find that marvel?

ET>> Is that changer a SCSI version? If so and you're trying to access
ET>> all cdroms in that changer, try the /ET switch to the SCSI
ET>> hostadapter driver in config.sys and reboot.

JD> well, that works indeed but... it then takes 18 drive letters!
JD> am looking for "something" to allow it to work on a single letter.

I don't think that changer can hold 18 cdroms?? More like 5 or 6 cdroms??

I don't think there is an OS/2 version of piece of software that combines all
inserted cdroms into one drive letter and provide access to each individual
cdrom as a (simulated) directory (at least not that I know). Ofcourse it is
possible for a good programmer with good knowdledge about writing filter
drivers and/or physical device drivers and lots of time and with a cdrom
changer to write such a driver.

  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: eddy.thilleman@net.hcc.nl

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From: Gerard Zoer                                       09-Nov-99 21:13:15
  To: Dave Davidson                                     10-Nov-99 09:55:08
Subj: Internal ZIP 100 drive & Warp 4

Hello Dave,

Monday November 08 1999 06:36, Dave Davidson wrote to All:

 DD> All the files I've downloaded, are for either the parallel port or
 DD> SCSI models, and _NOT_ the ATAPI Internal.

put

BASEDEV=IBMATAPI.FLT

in CONFIG.SYS

 DD> I thought the latest IBM1S506.ADD supported the ZIP and Imation
 DD> removable drives, but so far, nothing! Everything works fine under
 DD> WIN9x, but not OS/2.

It does here. (Warp4 and FP12)
However, I don't remember when support for the IDE version was added to Warp4.

- Greets,

     --[Gerard]--  (gezo@hccfido.hcc.nl)

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From: Dave Davidson                                     09-Nov-99 19:23:25
  To: Andy Roberts                                      10-Nov-99 12:12:22
Subj: External HP CD-RW

Hiya Andy,

09-Nov-99 09:48:57, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: External HP CD-RW
 AR> 08-Nov-99 18:40:45, Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts
 DD>> 08-Nov-99 16:25:31, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
 AR>> 08-Nov-99 06:46:04, Dave Davidson wrote to All Subject: External
 AR>> HP CD-RW

 DD>>>> I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R units
 DD>>>> on the OS/2 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both WIN9x &
 DD>>>> OS/2 versions, since it supports the HP 7200 unit.

 DD>> WIN9x on my Toshiba Notebook will detect which of the 4 parallel
 DD>> port devices I have is connected ie; Canon BJC-80, HP CD-RW, QD
 DD>> 2.5GB Hard Drive or Iomega Zip. All drivers are loaded and
 DD>> whichever is hooked up, works. If none are available, the system
 DD>> still loads & runs properly.

 AR> If you swap hardware around on the same parallel port under OS/2,
 AR> then it is likely that you will have to use Alt-F1 when you see
 AR> the little white box in the upper left corner with OS/2 beside it
 AR> during boot, then select full hardware detection.

 AR> To see if it was detected click on the Icon for "OS/2 System",
 AR> then "System Setup", then "Hardware Manager".

 OK, makes sense..


 AR> If it wasn't you, then I would not have bothered with this thread,
 AR> since I consider anyone who bought a cheap parallel port CDR or
 AR> Scanner had no consideration for OS/2 at all when they bought that
 AR> device.

 Cheap or not....OS/2 or not... There _ARE_ legitimate uses for an External
 Parallel Port device... Portability being one. My Notebook doesn't have
 a CD-RW but the parallel port model allows me to backup to CD. Can't use
 a SCSI device with that.

 My QD Parallel port 2.5GB HD is simply a case for holding _any_ 3 1/2" HD
 for use via Parallel Port or PC Card slot. A good (and cheap) way to
 archive seldom used files that can be used on most any machine. It's
 intended use is for Notebook users and again, a SCSI device wouldn't work
 with most Notebooks.

 The Iomega Parallel Port ZIP drive fall into the category of the Parallel
 Port CD-RW ie; usable on most any machine. As you know, I also have a ZIP
 Internal on each of my Desktops. The Parallel port is for sharing files
 with work & my Notebook.

 AR> And I know I mentioned to you before you
 AR> got that parallel port CDR, that it was not a good idea if you
 AR> ever planned to use it under OS/2.  I have a feeling very few
 AR> others in this echo have 1 of those parallel port CDRs, because
 AR> they all heeded the warning and did their homework before they
 AR> wasted their money.  So if you try all the suggestions and they
 AR> all fail, then sell it to a M$ addict and add a few $ more and go
 AR> buy a good SCSI CDR.

 As always, different strokes for different folks. Sometimes the _need_
 outweighs any possible _future_ OS considerations.

 As for others having/using parallel port CDR's, I really don't care as
 their _need_ or _usage_ requirements are most likely different from mine.

 When those items were purchased, I (1) Wasn't running OS/2 and had, quite
 frankly, given up on it and (2) I didn't and don't buy the "cheapest"
 item I can find. I look at (a) will it do what I want it to, (b) the
 reputation the model has established ie; word of mouth, number of returns,
 etc., and (c) is it within my price range.

 If the Parallel Port CD-RW works under OS/2, fine. If it doesn't, I still
 have the Internal CD-RW on this machine and I'll just not worry about
 burning CD's with the OS/2 machine, and I can _still_ use the External
 with the Notebook and machines at work.

 
 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com

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From: Dave Davidson                                     09-Nov-99 19:54:04
  To: James Mckenzie                                    10-Nov-99 12:12:22
Subj: Internal ZIP 100 drive & Warp 4

Hiya James,

09-Nov-99 05:49:12, James Mckenzie wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: Internal ZIP 100 drive & Warp 4
 JM> 08 Nov 99 06:36, Dave Davidson wrote to All:

 DD>> Anyone have any insight towards getting my Internal ZIP 100 to
 DD>> work with Warp4?
 DD>> All the files I've downloaded, are for either the parallel port
 DD>> or SCSI models, and _NOT_ the ATAPI Internal.

 JM> Which fixpack of Warp do you have installed?  FP10 here and the
 JM> ATAPI Zip drive is doing fine

 After OS/2 was loaded, I installed FP11. I just applied FP12 last night.

 JM> Check your settings on the drive!  It should be the first device
 JM> (Master) on the Secondary IDE channel from what I remember

 Hmmmm, there may be something to that..<g> I _think_ it's slaved off the
 CD, but will have to check.

 Thanks...


 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com

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From: Andy Roberts                                      09-Nov-99 22:28:09
  To: Dave Davidson                                     10-Nov-99 12:12:22
Subj: External HP CD-RW

 Dave Davidson,

09-Nov-99 19:23:51, Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts
 DD> 09-Nov-99 09:48:57, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
 AR>> 08-Nov-99 18:40:45, Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts
 DD>>> 08-Nov-99 16:25:31, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
 AR> 08-Nov-99 06:46:04, Dave Davidson wrote to All
 AR> Subject: External HP CD-RW

 DD>>>>> I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R units
 DD>>>>> on the OS/2 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both WIN9x &
 DD>>>>> OS/2 versions, since it supports the HP 7200 unit.

 DD>>> WIN9x on my Toshiba Notebook will detect which of the 4 parallel
 DD>>> port devices I have is connected ie; Canon BJC-80, HP CD-RW, QD
 DD>>> 2.5GB Hard Drive or Iomega Zip. All drivers are loaded and
 DD>>> whichever is hooked up, works. If none are available, the system
 DD>>> still loads & runs properly.

 AR>> If you swap hardware around on the same parallel port under OS/2,
 AR>> then it is likely that you will have to use Alt-F1 when you see
 AR>> the little white box in the upper left corner with OS/2 beside it
 AR>> during boot, then select full hardware detection.

 AR>> To see if it was detected click on the Icon for "OS/2 System",
 AR>> then "System Setup", then "Hardware Manager".

 DD> OK, makes sense..

I'm not without some compassion, I do hope that works for you.

 AR>> If it wasn't you, then I would not have bothered with this
 AR>> thread, since I consider anyone who bought a cheap parallel port
 AR>> CDR or Scanner had no consideration for OS/2 at all when they
 AR>> bought that device.

 DD> Cheap or not....OS/2 or not... There _ARE_ legitimate uses for an
 DD> External Parallel Port device... Portability being one. My
 DD> Notebook doesn't have a CD-RW but the parallel port model allows
 DD> me to backup to CD. Can't use a SCSI device with that.

There are PCMCIA cards for SCSI.  Granted I have not done any research on them
recently.  IIRC my ThinkPad has some kind of PCMCIA card for the CDROM, which
looks to me exactly like a standard mini-SCSI plug.

I have no doubt that there are legitimate uses for a wide variety of external
parallel port devices, just like there are legitimate uses for M$.  But what
I was trying to say was that most of the parallel port CDRs and Scanners came
about long after SCSI was available and primarily provide a cheap alternative
at the sacrifice of quality performance.  And worse yet, most of the software
for those cheap devices is for M$ only, since most OS/2 users won't settle
for the reduced quality.  And OS/2 users don't have to settle for the reduced
quality if they are willing to pay a little more for SCSI.  For that matter
it's not even a choice limited to SCSI CDRs, since I read that RSJ is now
starting to support some of the IDE CDRs.

 DD> My QD Parallel port 2.5GB HD is simply a case for holding _any_ 3
 DD> 1/2" HD for use via Parallel Port or PC Card slot. A good (and
 DD> cheap) way to archive seldom used files that can be used on most
 DD> any machine. It's intended use is for Notebook users and again, a
 DD> SCSI device wouldn't work with most Notebooks.

Why won't SCSI work with most Notebooks?

I only have experience with 1 Notebook, so that's a real question.

 DD> The Iomega Parallel Port ZIP drive fall into the category of the
 DD> Parallel Port CD-RW ie; usable on most any machine. As you know, I
 DD> also have a ZIP Internal on each of my Desktops. The Parallel port
 DD> is for sharing files with work & my Notebook.

Business users would probably use a NIC or LapLink type software for that
purpose.  At least until some of the new devices become reliable and popular
enough to be considered for business use.  And then it is just a matter of
waiting (which may already be done) for some native OS/2 driver or software.

I'm not saying portable media is not easier, since that is why I got a CDR.
I'm just saying there are alternatives, that have been in use for business
users (like most OS/2 users) that are not all that common for M$ users.  And
of course the inverse is that there are a lot of things for M$ that are not
going to work for OS/2 because they are not reliable compared to alternatives.

As a general rule of thumb for new devices and reliability, SCSI comes first,
followed by IDE, with Parallel port at the very bottom of the list (except for
printers.)

 AR>> And I know I mentioned to you before you got that parallel port
 AR>> CDR, that it was not a good idea if you ever planned to use it
 AR>> under OS/2.  I have a feeling very few others in this echo have 1
 AR>> of those parallel port CDRs, because they all heeded the warning
 AR>> and did their homework before they wasted their money.  So if you
 AR>> try all the suggestions and they all fail, then sell it to a M$
 AR>> addict and add a few $ more and go buy a good SCSI CDR.

 DD> As always, different strokes for different folks. Sometimes the
 DD> _need_ outweighs any possible _future_ OS considerations.

Well in that case when your need gets to the point that OS/2 is a
consideration, then there are plenty of solutions for almost any task.

 DD> As for others having/using parallel port CDR's, I really don't
 DD> care as their _need_ or _usage_ requirements are most likely
 DD> different from mine.

I don't think there is any shortage of OS/2 users with LapTops, that need to
accomplish the same tasks as you do.  I'm just saying they were foreseighted
enough not to ignore obvious pitfalls of cheap hardware intended only for the
M$ market.  If your requirement is to force OS/2 to use every piece of cheap
hardware designed for M$, then by all means give up now, because you will be
SOL.

I'm being very general in that statement.  For all I know the devices you have
may work fine with OS/2.

 DD> When those items were purchased, I (1) Wasn't running OS/2 and
 DD> had, quite frankly, given up on it and (2) I didn't and don't buy
 DD> the "cheapest" item I can find. I look at (a) will it do what I
 DD> want it to, (b) the reputation the model has established ie; word
 DD> of mouth, number of returns, etc., and (c) is it within my price
 DD> range.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic, when I say OS/2 is not for everyone and may
not be for you.  If you've given up on OS/2 once, then consider the reasons
why, and ask if they have changed.  If you are only concerned with the
"reputation" M$ users have for a particular device and ignore what OS/2 users
say is the "reputation" for certain devices, then use the device with M$.
OTOH users who are concerned with OS/2 compatible devices usually find they
will work fine with M$.  It's just a matter of how limited you want to be.

As for the price range, well that's always been a highly debatable topic.
Granted if the OEM leaves out 1/2 the important stuff like they do WinModems
and WinPrinters, then sure they can sell the device cheaper than the
established standard device.  But that stuff is not intended for the
commercial market anyway.  You and I have done price comparisons before, and
you know that sometimes (not always) good quality devices can be had for even
less than the price you pay for popular home owner M$ devices.  And in spite
of the top end price range being about twice the cheapest, you most often do
get what you pay for.  On the average my guess would be that OS/2 end users
(as opposed to big business users) pay about 10% more than M$ users.  But for
that extra 10% they get devices that are far more reliable.

 DD> If the Parallel Port CD-RW works under OS/2, fine. If it doesn't,
 DD> I still have the Internal CD-RW on this machine and I'll just not
 DD> worry about burning CD's with the OS/2 machine, and I can _still_
 DD> use the External with the Notebook and machines at work.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you tell me you do have another CDR (1 of
3 CDRs) that is supported with native OS/2 software by RSJ.  I vaguely recall
looking on the RSJ web site and finding your make/model in their listing a
while back.  I haven't looked for whatever you are having problems with now.

So it really isn't a matter of your not having a CDR for OS/2, but rather your
choice to use that device somewhere else and/or try to use a device that could
work somewhere else but is not supported by OS/2 on the OS/2 machine.  That is
exactly why I am wondering if you are more interested in performing a task or
trying to force OS/2 to use devices intended only for M$.  Last I heard your
interest was in building a DeskTop unit for OS/2 not another LapTop.  And for
that DeskTop unit you already had OS/2 compatible devices including a CDR.

To add to my confusion I thought you told me that all your office work
machines were WinXX and that was all that you wanted for the LapTop which you
needed for on the road work.  Yet in this msg I'm replying to it seems you are
looking for ways to make your LapTop OS/2.  Did your office suddenly switch
from WinXX to OS/2 ?

Over the years you've collected many devices, some but not all of which are
OS/2 compatible.  Why not go around a put a little label on each device that
is OS/2 compatible and make an inventory list with the same notation.  Then
when you want to build and OS/2 machine, be that DeskTop or LapTop, look at
your inventory and match up the OS/2 compatible devices.  Surely that would be
easier than putting your OS/2 compatible devices in your WinXX machines and
then trying to force OS/2 to use similar M$ only devices, when you have other
devices that will perform the same task and work with OS/2.

     Thanks and Good Luck,        Andy Roberts
                                  andy@shentel.net
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From: John Thompson                                     10-Nov-99 14:32:00
  To: Stewart Honsberger                                10-Nov-99 22:34:15
Subj: Big Hard Drives & War

In a message to John Thompson, Stewart Honsberger wrote re: Big Hard Drives &
War

RH>> Partition Magic (4.0) here can't even find my Logitech PS/2 CE mouse. 
RH>>  It's not
RH>> likely that I would trust PQMAGIC with anything on this system. 
RH>>  
RH>> I rate Partition Magic in the mostly sucks category.  - ray

JT> Geez...just copy your Logitech mouse drivers onto the Partition 
JT> Magic diskette.  Works for me...
 
SH> Sounds like common sense to me. I use mouse.com (DOS mouse driver) on a
SH> DOS boot disk w/ the DOS version of PQMAGIC.

I've exchanged several emails with Ray on this subject and it 
appears to be a bit more involved in his case.  He's using a 
trackball, not a mouse, and perhaps that may be a reason for some
of the difficulty he's having.  In any case, I've sent him 
Logitech's DOS mouse drivers and their documentation but haven't 
heard back from him in a while.  I hope that means he's gotten it 
working now.


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From: Nick Andre                                        10-Nov-99 15:41:13
  To: Don Guy                                           10-Nov-99 22:34:15
Subj: Re: WORM drive problem

On 07 Nov 99  13:09:54, Don Guy said the following to Nick Andre:

DG> I'm not afraid to admit that I'm relatively new to the world of SCSI, but
h
DG> are my 2 in any case.  :-)

Oh, likewise. I've grown up on MFM's, ESDI's, RLL's and IDE's - Never ventured
into the wonderful world of SCSI. :)

DG>  NA> - Adaptec 1510 ISA SCSI controller. Has only one jumper bank, set to
DG>  NA> "I1".
DG> 
DG> The jumper pairs I2, I1, I0 & I9 are for setting the 1510's interrupt--12, 

DG> 10 and 9 respectively.  The fifth jumper pair selects the base address of
t
DG> 1510--open selects 0x340, closed selects 0x140.

Ok, thanks. Its been set to I1, no conflicts are happening at all.

DG>  NA> BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD /ET /V
DG> 
DG> I could be wrong, but you probably don't need the /ET switch.

So the WORM drive doesn't support multi-unit addressing at all? (Not that I'm 
familiar with the purpose of that anyway)

DG> The drive likely also has some method for selecting the SCSI device id. 
Th
DG> 1510 occupies device #7, so pick something else for the drive.

Its set at 1 for now, and I installed Windows 95 (eww) on a spare HD, and the 
whole setup works. I'm thinking its a conflict with the device drivers. I've 
tried OPTICAL.SYS (which crashes OS/2 completely), and MO.SYS (which doesn't 
find the drive at all). I've also tried a newer driver called OPTICAL.DMD 
which doesn't work at all either. :(

*Lord British*

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From: Ray Hyder                                         10-Nov-99 20:32:00
  To: Garth Ramsay                                      11-Nov-99 00:51:19
Subj: Scroll wheel support

 
 * Reply to a msg from Garth Ramsay @ 1:270/101 on 11-07-99        
 
 
  RH> M-CAB48A  P/N: 811438-0000  I either have a bad mouse or a bad
  RH> mouse PS/2 mouse port.  - ray
 
 GR> When I use the installation routine to install the driver and 
 GR> the utilities my machine locks up and the only solution I've 
 GR> been able to find was a RE-Install of the OS. If I extract the 
 GR> mouse.sys file from the wheelmouse archive and use it instead of 
 GR> the stock OS\2 one all is well. The wheel works and I'm almost a 
 GR> happy guy. 
 GR> It would be nice to be able to use the third button/wheel as a 
 GR> button and not just a wheel and for this I need the utilities 
 GR> and to get the utilities I seems I have to run the installation 
 GR> routine this seems to hang my system big time. 
 
 GR> Any Ideas??? 
 
Garth, I have exactly the same problem.  I have noooo solution.  I didn't
realize that using the extracted mouse.sys would get the wheel working.  I'll
give it a try! 
 
When I try to install the package I get a flash of a message that the
installer got confused with mouse resource and doesn't complete the install
process.  Is that your experience?  - ray  
 
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From: George Fliger                                     10-Nov-99 07:17:17
  To: Mike Ruskai                                       11-Nov-99 06:32:26
Subj: Re: EIDE HDD >8.4Gb

 MR> ... Beavis & Butthead: MST3000 for morons.

How can you get more moronic than someone who watches MST3000? :)

George


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From: Peter Knapper                                     11-Nov-99 21:59:17
  To: Dave Davidson                                     11-Nov-99 09:20:03
Subj: External HP CD-RW

Hi Dave,

 DD>  a SCSI device wouldn't work with most Notebooks.

Come down to reality Dave! My PCMCIA SCSI card has worked with every Laptop I
have tried and allows me to use external HD's, CD's and my SCSI CD Changer no
problems. How many Laptops these days do NOT have PCMCIA support?

Cheers.........pk.


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From: Dave Davidson                                     10-Nov-99 21:08:00
  To: Andy Roberts                                      11-Nov-99 20:36:17
Subj: External HP CD-RW

Hiya Andy,

09-Nov-99 22:28:19, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: External HP CD-RW
 AR> 09-Nov-99 19:23:51, Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts
 DD>> 09-Nov-99 09:48:57, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
 AR>>> 08-Nov-99 18:40:45, Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts
 DD>>>> 08-Nov-99 16:25:31, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
 AR>> 08-Nov-99 06:46:04, Dave Davidson wrote to All Subject: External
 AR>> HP CD-RW

 DD>>>>>> I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R units
 DD>>>>>> on the OS/2 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both WIN9x &
 DD>>>>>> OS/2 versions, since it supports the HP 7200 unit.

 DD>> If the Parallel Port CD-RW works under OS/2, fine. If it doesn't,
 DD>> I still have the Internal CD-RW on this machine and I'll just not
 DD>> worry about burning CD's with the OS/2 machine, and I can _still_
 DD>> use the External with the Notebook and machines at work.

 AR> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you tell me you do have
 AR> another CDR (1 of 3 CDRs) that is supported with native OS/2
 AR> software by RSJ.  I vaguely recall looking on the RSJ web site and
 AR> finding your make/model in their listing a while back.  I haven't
 AR> looked for whatever you are having problems with now.

 Yes, I did.... It's the 7200 External.It's supported by RJS and worked
 under WIN9x, so I _presume_ it will also work under OS/2 since it _is_ a
 supported device. The problem was OS/2 didn't see it. OS/2 did see the
 NEC CD-R tho.

 AR> So it really isn't a matter of your not having a CDR for OS/2, but
 AR> rather your choice to use that device somewhere else and/or try to
 AR> use a device that could work somewhere else but is not supported
 AR> by OS/2 on the OS/2 machine.  That is exactly why I am wondering
 AR> if you are more interested in performing a task or trying to force
 AR> OS/2 to use devices intended only for M$.  Last I heard your
 AR> interest was in building a DeskTop unit for OS/2 not another
 AR> LapTop.  And for that DeskTop unit you already had OS/2 compatible
 AR> devices including a CDR.

 The OS/2 compatible unit is/was the HP 7200 External along with the
 Digital Research (NEC) 32x CD-R. The P-120 unit you are referring to is
 still "under construction", as I simply haven't had time to finish it.
 I'm taking some vacation Thanksgiving week, so I should have time to
 finish that. I'll use the 10,3GB drive that finally accepted OS/2 in it
 instead of the 4.3GB Samsung sitting on the shelf.

 AR> To add to my confusion I thought you told me that all your office
 AR> work machines were WinXX and that was all that you wanted for the
 AR> LapTop which you needed for on the road work.  Yet in this msg I'm
 AR> replying to it seems you are looking for ways to make your LapTop
 AR> OS/2.  Did your office suddenly switch from WinXX to OS/2 ?

 Nope... The laptop remains WIN98 SE. Without the Toshiba specific drivers,
 I'm not sure it would run OS/2 anyway. I know it wasn't built for OS/2, as
 the sticker clearly stated optimized for WIN98/NT. The chances of our
 Company switching to OS/2 is about as great as me winning the lottery.

 AR> Over the years you've collected many devices, some but not all of
 AR> which are OS/2 compatible.  Why not go around a put a little label
 AR> on each device that is OS/2 compatible and make an inventory list
 AR> with the same notation.  Then when you want to build and OS/2
 AR> machine, be that DeskTop or LapTop, look at your inventory and
 AR> match up the OS/2 compatible devices.  Surely that would be easier
 AR> than putting your OS/2 compatible devices in your WinXX machines
 AR> and then trying to force OS/2 to use similar M$ only devices, when
 AR> you have other devices that will perform the same task and work
 AR> with OS/2.

 I haven't purchased _ANY_ devices that are WIN9x specific (the Toshiba
 notebook excepted), unless it came with the system. The Video cards in all
 three machines are supported, as is the CD-R's, Modems, etc. The CMedia
 sound card I recently asked about drivers for, is the lone exception...
 it came with the "bare bones" system I built the AMD K6/2-350 machine
 around. It's built into the MB. If I can't find drivers for it, it's a
 simple matter to disable it and use my extra SB-16 card. Even my 16MB
 ATI Rage and SB AWE 64 is supported by OS/2.

 Even the HP CD-RW's have DOS drivers, which eliminates them from the WIN9x
 only category and HP is said to be working on Linux drivers for 'em as
 well.

 As you are aware, I ran my BBS for years under DESQView and switched to
 WIN95 when I changed BBS software in 1996. When TerHOST developed to the
 point where it became a viable alternative, I stuck with WIN9x primarily
 because I had #tweaked# TerHOST to run under it reliably.

 With BBS user's dropping like flies, there wasn't any logical reason to do
 anything differently, as my machines did what _I_ wanted them to do. Now
 however, I have both a need and desire to utilize the Internet more
 extensively with the BBS, a task neither WIN9x nor TerHOST are up to.
 That's the reason for OS/2 and AdeptXBBS.

 Maybe if I had considered OS/2 several years earlier, the hardware choices
 _may_ have been a bit different however, I didn't. I'm not sure many folks
 that have a need for an item only purchase specific ones because they
 "might" run a different OS sometime in the future. I believe most will
 base their decision on the system they are running at that time unless,
 they had already decided to switch OS's or were strongly considering it.

 The exception might be the _WIN_ Modems, Printers, etc. I agree with you,
 that only those that don't understand the hardware or are looking only at
 price, would buy any of the _WIN_ only stuff that can't even be configured
 or used in anything but WIN9x.  Now, I must confess.... I _did_ buy a
 WinModem, but only for my teen age daughters machine, so I could have my
 Sportster back. <g> All she knows is WIN9x, so it works just fine for her.
 If it ain't "point-n-click", she's lost!

 Bottom line is.... I'm have a need (or probably more specifically a desire),
 to use OS/2 and Adept for features currently unavailable to me with my
 present system. Do I need all the "bells-n-whistles"? No. I do want a
 system with relatively simple BBS Internet connectivity that the
 OS/2-Adept combination offers.

 To me, this is still a hobby, not a religion. If it works for me, super..
 If it doesn't, at least I can say I gave it my best effort at making it
 work.

 As you outta know from our beta days, I can be somewhat determined to make
 things work in ways they were never intended to. <g>

 Later....


 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com
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From: Dave Davidson                                     10-Nov-99 22:09:29
  To: George Fliger                                     11-Nov-99 20:36:17
Subj: Re: External HP CD-RW

Hiya George,

09-Nov-99 05:58:10, George Fliger wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: Re: External HP CD-RW
 GF> On 8 Nov 99 06:46am, Dave Davidson wrote to All:


 DD>> It works fine under WIN9x, but OS/2 doesn't _see_ the external
 DD>> unit at all. The RJS software runs, but indicates it couldn't
 DD>> locate any supported device.

 DD>> Is this something that's fixable or am I simply SOL?

 GF> At this point in time RSJ only supports SCSI and IDE style CDR/RW
 GF> devices.  Parallel port devices are not supported.

  In other words, SOL! <g>

  The confusing part is the RJS software for WIN9x _did_ see and utilize
  the Parallel Port CD-RW. Could be the OS/2 version is different. Oh well,
  at least I still have the Internal on this machine and can use the
  External with my Laptop.

 Thanks...


 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com

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From: Dave Davidson                                     10-Nov-99 22:13:00
  To: Linda Proulx                                      11-Nov-99 20:36:17
Subj: Re: External HP CD-RW

Hiya Linda,

09-Nov-99 19:40:36, Linda Proulx wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: Re: External HP CD-RW

 LP> -=> Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts <=-

 DD>> CD=RW or the printer.

 LP> Or you can get a parallel switch box.  they run from very simple
 LP> to very fancy.


 Yes, they do and I have a couple here, along with a few serial boxes
 however, in my experience, they don't work well with external drives.

 It wouldn't work with my Syquest or Zip drive, even tho the printer worked
 just fine. I believe the drives require more than the switch boxes can
 provide.


 
 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com


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From: Dave Davidson                                     10-Nov-99 22:17:17
  To: Gerard Zoer                                       11-Nov-99 20:36:17
Subj: Internal ZIP 100 drive & Warp 4

Hiya Gerard,

09-Nov-99 21:13:31, Gerard Zoer wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: Internal ZIP 100 drive & Warp 4
 GZ> Monday November 08 1999 06:36, Dave Davidson wrote to All:

 DD>> All the files I've downloaded, are for either the parallel port
 DD>> or SCSI models, and _NOT_ the ATAPI Internal.

 GZ> put BASEDEV=IBMATAPI.FLT in CONFIG.SYS

 Thanks.... Will give it a try.


 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com

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From: Andy Roberts                                      11-Nov-99 03:24:29
  To: Dave Davidson                                     11-Nov-99 20:36:17
Subj: External HP CD-RW

 Dave Davidson,

10-Nov-99 21:08:00, Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts
 DD> 09-Nov-99 22:28:19, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
 AR>> 09-Nov-99 19:23:51, Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts
 DD>>> 09-Nov-99 09:48:57, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
 AR>>>> 08-Nov-99 18:40:45, Dave Davidson wrote to Andy Roberts
 DD>>>>> 08-Nov-99 16:25:31, Andy Roberts wrote to Dave Davidson
 AR> 08-Nov-99 06:46:04, Dave Davidson wrote to All
 AR> Subject: External HP CD-RW

 DD>>>>>>> I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R
 DD>>>>>>> units on the OS/2 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both
 DD>>>>>>> WIN9x & OS/2 versions, since it supports the HP 7200 unit.

-<snip>-
 DD> Yes, I did.... It's the 7200 External. It's supported by RJS

This thread is beginning to remind me of the confusion Microtek Scanner model
numbers cause.  My wife brought a Scanner home from the school where she works
because the school's computer coordinator could not get it to work.  It
arrived here with no box, no paper work, no cables and no software.  The next
day she brought the paper work and software which was generic to cover all
models.  But still no cable and no box.  The next day she brought a cable with
50 pin SCSI on 1 end and DB25 on the other.  The Scanner had both 50 pin and
DB25 connectors.  Neither that cable nor any of my 50 pin on both ends PC SCSI
cables could get the Scanner to work on my PC.  So I took it all back to the
school and plugged the DB25 into the MAC's SCSI input and it worked fine.  The
only problem the school's computer coordinator had was the paper work that
came with it was so vague as to be useless to identify if it was for MAC or PC
and the menues on the MAC leave a lot to be desired.  Later I went into a
store and found the exact same model number in the exact same box with all the
exact same features, available in 4 distinctly different configurations.  The
only way to tell 1 from the other was to look very closely on the box for a
small square with a hand writen X in it, among 4 lines of little boxes and
their respective short description.  1 model was PC SCSI, a 2nd model was MAC
SCSI, a 3rd model was Parallel Port, and I forget what the 4th model was.

Now to relate that to your problem.  You mention "HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW"
and you also mention "7200 External. It's supported by RJS".  But is the 7200
external that is supported by RSJ the Parallel Port model or rather a SCSI
external with the same 7200 model number?  AFAIK RSJ does not support any
parallel port models.  It was only recently that RSJ started supporting IDE
models.  For a long time RSJ only supported SCSI models.

If HP has pulled the same stunt that Microtek did with confusing model numbers
with significantly different configurations, then you better take a very close
look at the RSJ web site list of supported CDRs.

http://www.rsj.de/stage/en/cd_os2.htm

At least my Ricoh CDR uses S to designate SCSI after the model number, even
tho they use the exact same model number with an A or nothing at all to
designate the IDE model.  Bloody confusing to say the least, unless you know
exactly what to look for and where to find it.

I would not be at all surprised if the RSJ web site list left off all the SCSI
identifiers on the individual model numbers and instead put a little note some
where else that says system requirements are SCSI or IDE and no mention of
Parallel Port at all.  So if Parallel Port is not specifically mentioned, then
don't expect it to work.

BTW, be carefull when selecting Parallel Port cables.  Some of them leave off
at least 1 very important wire required for bi-directional communication.  So
the cheap cable will work fine with some device and not work properly with
other devices, or work with some settings but not other settings for the same
device.

     Thanks and Good Luck,        Andy Roberts
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From: Steve McCrystal                                   10-Nov-99 06:22:06
  To: Dave Davidson                                     11-Nov-99 20:36:17
Subj: External HP CD-RW

;
In a msg of <Monday November 08 1999>, Dave Davidson writes to All:
;
Dave,

 DD>  I have a HP Parallel Port 7200 CD-RW and a NEC 24x CD-R units on
 DD> the OS/2 box. I downloaded the RJS CD-Writer, both WIN9x & OS/2
 DD> versions, since it supports the HP 7200 unit.

Are you sure RSJ supports the parallel port CD-RW?   I'm sure it will support
a SCSI unit, and IDE, but I don't recall seeing anything about parallel (I
could be wrong... frankly, I haven't looked since IMHO it really isn't a
viable option.)

-[Steve]-

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From: Dave Davidson                                     11-Nov-99 18:14:29
  To: Peter Knapper                                     12-Nov-99 06:28:03
Subj: External HP CD-RW

Hiya Peter,

11-Nov-99 21:59:34, Peter Knapper wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: External HP CD-RW

 DD>> a SCSI device wouldn't work with most Notebooks.

 PK> Come down to reality Dave! My PCMCIA SCSI card has worked with
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^

 Yes, I'm aware of the PCMCIA SCSI cards... my point was yet another
 item to be purchased just to share a device _required_ to use OS/2.
 Sorry I didn't make that point clear.

 PK> every Laptop I have tried and allows me to use external HD's, CD's
 PK> and my SCSI CD Changer no problems. How many Laptops these days do
 PK> NOT have PCMCIA support

 Again, for someone that already uses SCSI devices and/or OS/2 that's not a
 "big deal" however, if someone has been using WIN9x and purchasing HW
 based on that OS, then switching to OS/2 _can_ be a real pain in the
 wallet!

 As I mentioned in a previous post, not everyone purchases equipment with
 the thought that "maybe someday I'll switch to OS/2 and need to base my
 purchasing decision on OS/2 compatibility". I'm of the opinion that very
 few "non OS/2" or "non power users" purchase a machine or components
 specifically for OS/2. Switching to OS/2 usually comes _after_ the
 limitations of WIN9x make themselves known.

 I'm convinced that most WIN9x users that convert to OS/2 are...

 (1) Have been convinced that OS/2 is a better OS for them.... or
 (2) Are frustrated with WIN9x related problems.... or
 (3) Want or need to perform tasks beyond the capabilities of WIN9x and
     are looking to OS/2 to fulfill their need.

 I guess #3 is the best fit for me...<g>


 WIN9x has done what I wanted it to do, but now I want to do more and
 OS/2 (for me) is the most logical _viable_ alternative, since I'm not
 technically oriented enough to run Linux. <g>

 
 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com
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From: Linda Proulx                                      11-Nov-99 19:31:06
  To: Dave Davidson                                     12-Nov-99 06:28:03
Subj: Re: External HP CD-RW

Greetings and Salutations,

     -=> Dave Davidson wrote to Linda Proulx <=-

 DD> Hiya Linda,

 DD>  It wouldn't work with my Syquest or Zip drive, even tho the printer
 DD> worked
 DD>  just fine. I believe the drives require more than the switch boxes can
 DD>  provide.

I recently saw a really fancy one that says it supports Zips, etc.  Very
fancy. @ $90.00 Canadian.  If you remember printer logic boxes it works
like those did & sends the stuff to the right parallel device without
manually switching. Actually I was thinking about getting it for a
while. Also depends on the switch.  The better manuals have all 25 pins
wired and others don't.  So the printer will work but not any device
that needs the better switch.  You may have the partial wiring switch.

Just a thought.


Anon,

Linda

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From: George White                                      10-Nov-99 08:20:29
  To: Eddy Thilleman                                    12-Nov-99 06:28:03
Subj: WORM drive problem

Hi Eddy,

On 07-Nov-99, Eddy Thilleman wrote to Nick Andre:

 NA>> - 486DX2/66Mhz, 32MB RAM, all ISA bus. Award BIOS.

 ET> Try with 16 MB RAM instead of 32 MB RAM (if it's possible), and
 ET> see what happens

 ET> Problably the Adaptec 1510 ISA SCSI host adapter is not a
 ET> busmaster (in that case it wouldn't make a difference), but I'm
 ET> not sure

It's PIO (and not recommended for use of fast SCSI devices like HDs),
so Nick will loose rather than gain by reducig RAM.
The 154x is the Adaptec ISA busmaster SCSI HBA.


George

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From: Peter Knapper                                     13-Nov-99 00:06:02
  To: Dave Davidson                                     12-Nov-99 10:11:00
Subj: External HP CD-RW

Hi Dave,

 DD>  Yes, I'm aware of the PCMCIA SCSI cards... my point was yet another
 DD>  item to be purchased just to share a device _required_ to use OS/2.

What do you mean _required_??? I have used the SCSI card for OS/2 and (cough)
95. I have also used a parallel port Backpack CDROM drive with OS/2 and
(cough) 95. I dont see anything REQUIRED about any of those configurations.

 DD>  Again, for someone that already uses SCSI devices 
 DD> and/or OS/2 that's not a
 DD>  "big deal" however, if someone has been using WIN9x and purchasing HW
 DD>  based on that OS, then switching to OS/2 _can_ be a real pain in the
 DD>  wallet!

I dont see why, both the above Backpack and my SCSI card have full drivers
SUPPLIED with the devices. For the SCSI, the drivers were already on the OS
install CD for W95 and OS/2 (the SCSI PCMCIA card is badged IBM, but its
actually a Future Domain chipset and uses standard FD drivers). Nothing is
making any of this H/W an OS/2 only environment.

 DD>  As I mentioned in a previous post, not everyone purchases equipment with
 DD>  the thought that "maybe someday I'll switch to OS/2 and need to base my
 DD>  purchasing decision on OS/2 compatibility".

I purchased my PCMCIA SCSI card because (IMHO) it was the BEST solution for
CDROM and external drive support for any OS on a laptop machine! Not just
because it was supported under OS/2. That is also the reason why I have
purchased nothing but SCSI HD's since 1988! The only IDE drives I have seen
have been in H/W that I was not responsible for. Not one of those drives is
still running today, however I still have several SCSI drives running,
including the very first 3.5inch 180MB one I purchased 11 years ago!

In 1988 SCSI was still new enough to be considered something special, and
occasionally it was difficult to get drivers for some devices, but these days
its just another connection method that is well supported in a wide variety of 
environments. I certainly prefer using it whenever I can, regardless of OS.

Cheers..........pk.


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From: Eddy Thilleman                                    10-Nov-99 10:30:12
  To: Garth Ramsay                                      12-Nov-99 15:22:02
Subj: Scroll wheel support

Hello Garth,

07 Nov 99 23:09, Garth Ramsay wrote to Ray Hyder:

GR> I'm running a Celeron 300A (yes it does run comfortably at 450) with

Is that Celeron one of the first without cache?

GR> 128 meg ram and a Matrox G200 8meg video card with a Logitech M-S48
GR> wheel mouse.

Does your mouse has a button on the thumb position (=on the side)? If so, you
can press that button to scroll sideways (according to the doc file).

My system: Pentium II CPU, 128 MB RAM, APG Matrox 8 MB video card, Logitech
Mouse+.

GR> When I use the installation routine to install the driver and the
GR> utilities my machine locks up and the only solution I've been able to
GR> find was a RE-Install of the OS.

I installed this mouse driver with the MOUINST.EXE program, no problem for me.

GR> It would be nice to be able to use the third button/wheel as a button
GR> and not just a wheel and for this I need the utilities and to get the
GR> utilities I seems I have to run the installation routine this seems
GR> to hang my system big time.

IIRC, OS/2 supports only two mouse buttons.

From the doc file:

3.2  Wheel-Type Scrolling Mouse
-------------------------------

A wheel-type scrolling mouse has a wheel and either 3 or 4 buttons, with
the 3rd or 4th button physically under the wheel.  In a 3-button/wheel
mouse configuration, spinning the wheel up or down will move the cursor
vertically line-by-line.  A 3-button/wheel configuration does not
support horizontal scrolling.


A 4-button/wheel mouse configuration typically has the 3rd button on the
side of the mouse, under the thumb-position.  Spinning the wheel up or
down will move the cursor vertically line-by-line.  However, depressing
the 3rd (thumb-position) button while spinning the wheel changes the
scrolling direction from vertical to horizontal, and the cursor will
move left or right in a space-by-space motion.

  Greetings   -=Eddy=-        email: eddy.thilleman@net.hcc.nl

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From: Gerard Zoer                                       10-Nov-99 19:10:15
  To: James Mckenzie                                    12-Nov-99 15:22:02
Subj: Internal ZIP 100 drive & Warp 4

Hello James,

Tuesday November 09 1999 05:49, James Mckenzie wrote to Dave Davidson:

 JM> Check your settings on the drive!  It should be the first device (Master)
 JM> on the Secondary IDE channel from what I remember.

Never tried that.

First IDE channel:     HD (master, C: and E:)
                       Zipdrive (slave, G:)
Secondary IDE channel: HD (master, D: and F:)
                       CD-ROM (slave, H:)

OEM Zipdrive (NEC) without a manual, works fine.

- Greets,

     --[Gerard]--  (gezo@hccfido.hcc.nl)

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