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From: Kenneth Duke                                      22-Oct-99 20:13:13
  To: JOHN HENTSCH                                      23-Oct-99 01:22:20
Subj: Re: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

*** Quoting JOHN HENTSCH from a message to DAVID CALAFRANCESCO ***

JH> I still haven't been able to get OS/2 to see the card. I'm at a loss 
JH> of what to do next. I left and message of www.d-link.com but, as 
JH> expected, no reply.

Not trying to sound like a jerk, or anything like that, but with the problems
you've been having, have you thought about buying a different brand network
card?  They are dirt cheap now, and that might solve all your problems.

You should be able to get a RealTek, or 3com for around $20.00 or lower.

I've found a few RealTek's for 9 bucks...

Check www.fairauction.com for some good prices on some isa and pci NICs..


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From: JOHN HENTSCH                                      22-Oct-99 23:22:17
  To: KENNETH DUKE                                      23-Oct-99 11:55:27
Subj: Re: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

On 10/22/1999 in OS/2 LAN (F) Kenneth Duke wrote to John Hentsch:

KD> Not trying to sound like a jerk, or anything like that, but with
KD> the problems you've been having, have you thought about buying a
KD> different brand network card?  They are dirt cheap now, and that
KD> might solve all your problems.

That's certainly a possibility, Kenneth. I been dealing with OS/2 for
several years now. It aways been a fight to get it to configure
properly. On this particular computer, I have set it up as a multi-boot
machine. I can get Warp 4 to use the Yamaha sound card but Warp 3 won't
configure. I suppose I'll end up finding a standard Sound Blaster 16 ISA
card for the machine. I guess I need to start at the lowest common
denominator and stay with major brand hardware, ie 3COM, USR, S3...


Thanks,
jh -
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From: Tobias Ernst                                      23-Oct-99 02:34:27
  To: Dave Davidson                                     23-Oct-99 20:30:10
Subj: Which LAN Card....

Hallo Dave!

 DD>  machines. I have Intel, 3Com and a couple of Generic Ethernet cards, 
 DD> both PCI and ISA available for use. Is one of these better suited for 
 DD> OS/2 than the other?

I have the best experiences with Intel NICs. Never a single problem on my
three machines, and supported by OS/2 out of the box.

I have been having problems with 3com, though, but that was only one board,
and maybe the hardware was just faulty.

As for Noname cards, it depends. You can have very bad expericences with them, 
things like periodic lock ups and the like. On the other hand, I also have
seen noname cards (Longshine ISA, actually) working without problems (though
quite slow).

Viele Gre,
Tobias

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From: Peter Knapper                                     24-Oct-99 19:07:13
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   24-Oct-99 07:16:28
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

Hi Roy,

 RJT> is a little checkbox that says "Connect to 
 RJT> resource at logon",  which _IS_ checked in all three of them.

 RJT> So why didn't it?

A couple of reasons that I can think of -

  1. The Linux shares were not in a state to accept a login at the time the
OS/2 box tried to connect. This is one annoyance I have with OS/2 networking,
in that for an unattended server site it is not possible to configure a
RELIABLE automatic retry option to automate connections via the WPS. To
resolve this I always issue manual NET USE commands via STARTUP.CMD to connect 
to a resource at system startup and it loops (after a short delay) until those 
connections are established successfully.

  2. In general, for this to work, your OS/2 box requires a user to be logged
on to it, that the user has permission to USE that share, AND the SAME userid
must be defined on the Linux box using the SAME Login/Password combination.

If all those match, then I am not sure what is happening.

I hope this helps.........pk.


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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   24-Oct-99 17:17:07
  To: Peter Knapper                                     24-Oct-99 22:12:00
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 PK> Hi Roy,

 RJT> is a little checkbox that says "Connect to 
 RJT> resource at logon",  which _IS_ checked in all three of them.

 RJT> So why didn't it?

 PK> A couple of reasons that I can think of -

 PK>   1. The Linux shares were not in a state to accept a login at 
 PK> the time the OS/2 box tried to connect. 

Possible,  but I don't recall any particular difficulty offhand.

 PK> This is one annoyance I have with OS/2 networking, in that for 
 PK> an unattended server site it is not possible to configure a 
 PK> RELIABLE automatic retry option to automate connections via the 
 PK> WPS. To resolve this I always issue manual NET USE commands via 
 PK> STARTUP.CMD to connect to a resource at system startup and it 
 PK> loops (after a short delay) until those connections are 
 PK> established successfully.

Do you have a CMD file snippet you would care to share?  I think I remember
your mentioning this once before,  now I see the reason for it...

 PK>   2. In general, for this to work, your OS/2 box requires a 
 PK> user to be logged on to it, that the user has permission to USE 
 PK> that share, AND the SAME userid must be defined on the Linux 
 PK> box using the SAME Login/Password combination.

I did get to where I tried logging off and back on again.  The "start" choice
was what got it going...

 PK> If all those match, then I am not sure what is happening.

<shrug>

I don't know,  but it's working okay now.

Your NET USE idea sounds good,  how does it tell when it's been connected
okay?

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From: Peter Knapper                                     25-Oct-99 14:51:18
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   25-Oct-99 06:36:25
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

Hi Roy,

 PK> This is one annoyance I have with OS/2 networking, in that for 
 PK> an unattended server site it is not possible to configure a 
 PK> RELIABLE automatic retry option to automate connections via the 
 PK> WPS. To resolve this I always issue manual NET USE commands via 
 PK> STARTUP.CMD to connect to a resource at system startup and it 
 PK> loops (after a short delay) until those connections are 
 PK> established successfully.

 RJT> Do you have a CMD file snippet you would care to share?

I should have guessed you might ask.........;-) This is taken from my
Startup.Cmd file -
=================================================================

:Testit
If not exist Q:\Max\Bbs.Cmd Goto Tryagain
If not exist R:\Bbs\Max.Ctl Goto Tryagain
If not exist S:\Files\Uploads Goto Tryagain
If not exist T:\Msg\Nz\NzSysop.Sqd Goto Tryagain
Goto MapOk

:Tryagain
Sleep2 60
Echo *** Attempting to re-map BBS drives...
Net Use Q: \\BBS\BBS-C
Net Use R: \\BBS\BBS-D
Net Use S: \\BBS\BBS-E
Net Use T: \\BBS\BBS-F
Goto Testit

:MapOk
=================================================================

All it does is look for a file on each mapped drive to determine if the file
is accessible and acts accordingly. Sleep2 is a program that waits for x
seconds and then exits, in this case x = 60 seconds. There is also no harm in
attempting to re-map a drive that is already mapped.

 RJT> Your NET USE idea sounds good,  how does it tell when 
 RJT> it's been connected okay?

Well it wont exit the loop until it DOES find ALL the files... The NET USE
will display an error message within a few seconds if it can't find the
resource so all the mappings are attempted again, but other than the error
message there is no other adverse affect.

Cheers..........pk.


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From: Dave Emory                                        24-Oct-99 13:32:00
  To: Peter Knapper                                     25-Oct-99 06:36:25
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

On Sunday October 24 1999, Peter Knapper wrote to Roy J. Tellason:

 PK>   1. The Linux shares were not in a state to accept a login at the
 PK> time the OS/2 box tried to connect. This is one annoyance I have with
 PK> OS/2 networking, in that for an unattended server site it is not
 PK> possible to configure a RELIABLE automatic retry option to automate
 PK> connections via the WPS. To resolve this I always issue manual NET USE
 PK> commands via STARTUP.CMD to connect to a resource at system startup
 PK> and it loops (after a short delay) until those connections are
 PK> established successfully.

Could you share the salient parts of your command file to do this looping?  I
have a heterogeneous network here with W98, Linux, and OS/2 boxes.  If I have
a power outage, I end up having to monitor the whole restart to make sure the
shares all work.  TTYL -=- Dave

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From: Peter Knapper                                     26-Oct-99 00:00:03
  To: Dave Emory                                        25-Oct-99 12:13:14
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

Hi Dave,

 PK> To resolve this I always issue manual NET USE
 PK> commands via STARTUP.CMD to connect to a resource at system startup
 PK> and it loops (after a short delay) until those connections are
 PK> established successfully.

 DE> Could you share the salient parts of your command file 
 DE> to do this looping?

See my reply to Roy about this, if you miss that let me know and I can re-post 
it.

Cheers.........pk.


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From: Leonard Erickson                                  25-Oct-99 02:35:00
  To: Dave Emory                                        25-Oct-99 17:43:04
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

 -=> Quoting Dave Emory to Peter Knapper <=-

 DE> On Sunday October 24 1999, Peter Knapper wrote to Roy J. Tellason:
 
 PK>   1. The Linux shares were not in a state to accept a login at the
 PK> time the OS/2 box tried to connect. This is one annoyance I have with
 PK> OS/2 networking, in that for an unattended server site it is not
 PK> possible to configure a RELIABLE automatic retry option to automate
 PK> connections via the WPS. To resolve this I always issue manual NET USE
 PK> commands via STARTUP.CMD to connect to a resource at system startup
 PK> and it loops (after a short delay) until those connections are
 PK> established successfully.

 DE> Could you share the salient parts of your command file to do this
 DE> looping?  I have a heterogeneous network here with W98, Linux, and
 DE> OS/2 boxes.  If I have a power outage, I end up having to monitor the
 DE> whole restart to make sure the shares all work.

Netware Lite had a utility for this sort of thing. IPXSYNCH. What you
did was put something like "IPXSYNCH server1 foobar" in the batch file
on server2 and "IPXSYNCH server1 foobar" in one on server2.

Execution would pause until each machine had received the "foobar"
message from the other. This allowed things to synch up. You could even
use several IPXSYNCH lines for stuff that had to come up in stages. 

Surely something similar could be written using TCP/IP?



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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   25-Oct-99 11:37:19
  To: Peter Knapper                                     25-Oct-99 17:43:04
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 PK> All it does is look for a file on each mapped drive to 
 PK> determine if the file is accessible and acts accordingly.

That much was apparent to me as soon as I saw the list...

 PK> Sleep2 is a program that waits for x seconds and then exits, in 
 PK> this case x = 60 seconds. 

Isn't there a command that's already likely to be on my system that will do
this?  Something in REXX,  maybe?

 PK> There is also no harm in attempting to re-map a drive that is 
 PK> already mapped.

 RJT> Your NET USE idea sounds good,  how does it tell when it's been 
 RJT> connected okay?

 PK> Well it wont exit the loop until it DOES find ALL the files... 
 PK> The NET USE will display an error message within a few seconds 
 PK> if it can't find the resource so all the mappings are attempted 
 PK> again, but other than the error message there is no other 
 PK> adverse affect.

I think using something like this to establish that the machine is connected
to the Samba server on the Linux box should work pretty well.  I may end up
using a separate process,  though,  to run in the background and see if the
w95 box has been turned on and then to establish that connection,  if so, 
rather than hanging up startup.cmd with continuing attempts to access a
machine that may not be turned on.

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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   25-Oct-99 23:01:27
  To: all                                               26-Oct-99 11:19:04
Subj: no finger?

I tried running "finger" from the Linux box directed at the OS/2 box,  and got 
"connection refused".  What do I need to change in order to fix this?

It's listed in c:\mptn\etc\services...

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From: Peter Knapper                                     26-Oct-99 21:39:19
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   26-Oct-99 12:36:03
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

Hi Roy,

 PK> Sleep2 is a program that waits for x seconds and then exits, in 
 PK> this case x = 60 seconds. 

 RJT> Isn't there a command that's already likely to be on 
 RJT> my system that will do this?  Something in REXX, maybe?

Yes, you can write the function in REXX using SysSleep(x) if you wish, however 
at this point I wish to keep REXX out of the script.

 PK> There is also no harm in attempting to re-map a drive that is 
 PK> already mapped.

 RJT> Your NET USE idea sounds good,  how does it tell when it's been 
 RJT> connected okay?

The NET USE just attempts the mapping and reports success or failure, but I
ignore that report and go looking for real data...


 PK> Well it wont exit the loop until it DOES find ALL the files... 
 PK> The NET USE will display an error message within a few seconds 
 PK> if it can't find the resource so all the mappings are attempted 
 PK> again, but other than the error message there is no other 
 PK> adverse affect.

 RJT> I may end up using a separate process,  though,  to run in the  RJT>
background and see if the w95 box has been turned on and then to 
 RJT> establish that connection,  if so,  rather than 
 RJT> hanging up startup.cmd with continuing attempts to 
 RJT> access a machine that may not be turned on.

My STARTUP.CMD does not "hang-up", it actually performs various startup
functions including STARTing STARTUP2.CMD, which starts up the Requestor, logs 
in a default user, maps the drives, removes old FLAG files, then EXITS the
STARTed session, so it runs as a seperate process and ends itself. It does not 
hold up anything other than the functions it controls... You can set the wait
period to be anything you like if you want. In this case the CLIENT machine is 
MUCH faster at starting up, so I frequently have it waiting about 4-5 mins
before the drives map ok. The only time the script failed me is when the
Server machine failed to restart after a power fail that required manual
intervention.

Another warning, if an OS/2 machine has TCP/IP AND NETBIOS configured, then
checking for network connectivity using TCP/IP (EG PING) is going to work LONG 
before PEER Services (and subsequently the NET USE command) is up and running. 


Cheers..............pk.


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From: Bryan Rubingh                                     26-Oct-99 13:37:00
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 13:37:00
Subj: LAN Server 3 & Big HD


We have a LAN Server version 3.0 running and need to install a
larger hard disk.  It is running on OS/2 Warp 3 with no fixpaks
installed, although it does have an updated IBM1S506 to handle the
current 4 GB hard disk in it.  Does anyone know if we are likely to run
into problems installing a 20 GB hard disk?  Will we need to install a
fixpak?

Any insight into potential problems would be appreciated.  This machine
is an hour drive away so I'd prefer to have everything I need along with
me the first time.

  Thanks,
  Bryan Rubingh


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From: Kari Suomela                                      26-Oct-99 10:32:06
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   26-Oct-99 15:21:05
Subj: no finger?

Monday October 25 1999 23:01, Roy J. Tellason wrote to all:

 RT> I tried running "finger" from the Linux box directed at the OS/2 box,
 RT> and got "connection refused".  What do I need to change in order to
 RT> fix this?

 RT> It's listed in c:\mptn\etc\services...

Is it running?

 KS


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From: Will Honea                                        26-Oct-99 12:29:00
  To: Bryan Rubingh                                     26-Oct-99 12:29:00
Subj: LAN Server 3 & Big HD

Bryan Rubingh wrote to All on 10-26-1999

BR> 
BR> We have a LAN Server version 3.0 running and need to install a
BR> larger hard disk.  It is running on OS/2 Warp 3 with no fixpaks
BR> installed, although it does have an updated IBM1S506 to handle the
BR> current 4 GB hard disk in it.  Does anyone know if we are likely
BR> to run into problems installing a 20 GB hard disk?  Will we need to
BR> install a fixpak?
BR> 
BR> Any insight into potential problems would be appreciated.  This
BR> machine is an hour drive away so I'd prefer to have everything I
BR> need along with me the first time.

Two major problems, Bryan.  The most obvious is that Warp 3 is not Y2K
compliant without at least fp32 and it takes up to fp38 to straighten
some of the PMMERGE problems.  Personally, I'd suggest fp40 and be done
with it.  That will also tweek the IBM1S506 to a level that should
handle the 20g drive.  Just to be on the safe side, throw a copy of
DANIS506.ADD in your kit - easier than chasing the IBM1S506.ADD revs
all over the place.

The other problem is not so simple.  As far as I can tell, there has
never been a fixpak released that brings LS 3 up to Y2K compliant and I
know that there are parts of the IP stack that will die from timestamp
problems.  LS 3 is long out of support but you might be able to find
the lastest updates at the IBM sites.  The most current listing I have
are at:

http://service5.boulder.ibm.com/pspfixpk.nsf/3f5d9c073e8a66718625662800691e9b?O
penView

A search from there shows services for LS 4.0 but no mention of LS 3. 
I have seen some fixes for it but your going to have to dig a bit.  I
seriously doubt you will find Y2K fixes for it since that was an OS/2
2.1 era product and that has been positively identified as not
updatable to Y2K standards.  

Good luck - you may be back installing a new LS shortly.
                                                             
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   26-Oct-99 17:43:00
  To: Kari Suomela                                      28-Oct-99 11:07:21
Subj: no finger?

Kari Suomela wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 KS> Monday October 25 1999 23:01, Roy J. Tellason wrote to all:

 RT> I tried running "finger" from the Linux box directed at the OS/2 box,
 RT> and got "connection refused".  What do I need to change in order to
 RT> fix this?

 RT> It's listed in c:\mptn\etc\services...

 KS> Is it running?

Is *what* running?

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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   26-Oct-99 17:43:16
  To: Peter Knapper                                     28-Oct-99 11:07:21
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 PK> Hi Roy,

 PK> Sleep2 is a program that waits for x seconds and then exits, in 
 PK> this case x = 60 seconds. 

 RJT> Isn't there a command that's already likely to be on my system 
 RJT> that will do this?  Something in REXX, maybe?

 PK> Yes, you can write the function in REXX using SysSleep(x) if 
 PK> you wish, however at this point I wish to keep REXX out of the 
 PK> script.

Maybe I was mistaken,  but I thought that there was some system command that
did this.  Oh well.

<...>

 PK> Well it wont exit the loop until it DOES find ALL the files... 
 PK> The NET USE will display an error message within a few seconds 
 PK> if it can't find the resource so all the mappings are attempted 
 PK> again, but other than the error message there is no other 
 PK> adverse affect.

 RJT> I may end up using a separate process,  though,  to run in the 
 RJT> background and see if the w95 box has been turned on and
 RJT> then to establish that connection,  if so,  rather than hanging 
 RJT> up startup.cmd with continuing attempts to access a machine 
 RJT> that may not be turned on.

 PK> My STARTUP.CMD does not "hang-up", it actually performs various 
 PK> startup functions including STARTing STARTUP2.CMD, which starts 
 PK> up the Requestor, logs in a default user, maps the drives, 
 PK> removes old FLAG files, then EXITS the STARTed session, so it 
 PK> runs as a seperate process and ends itself.

Oh,  okay...

This approach makes sense to me.

 PK> It does not hold up anything other than the functions it 
 PK> controls... You can set the wait period to be anything you like 
 PK> if you want. In this case the CLIENT machine is MUCH faster at 
 PK> starting up, so I frequently have it waiting about 4-5 mins 
 PK> before the drives map ok. The only time the script failed me is 
 PK> when the Server machine failed to restart after a power fail 
 PK> that required manual intervention.

 PK> Another warning, if an OS/2 machine has TCP/IP AND NETBIOS 
 PK> configured, then checking for network connectivity using TCP/IP 
 PK> (EG PING) is going to work LONG before PEER Services (and 
 PK> subsequently the NET USE command) is up and running.

Yeah,  that's another aspect of this stuff that is somewhat puzzling to me,
why it takes so long for that to come up.  I see "The requester service is
starting........" (or something close to that) and it sits there,  on the
screen.  Any idea how I'd make that one come up minimized?

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From: MIKE RUSKAI                                       26-Oct-99 11:54:00
  To: ROY J. TELLASON                                   28-Oct-99 11:07:21
Subj: no finger?

Some senseless babbling from Roy J. Tellason to All
on 10-25-99  23:01 about no finger?...

 RJT> I tried running "finger" from the Linux box directed at the OS/2 box,
 RJT> and got "connection refused".  What do I need to change in order to
 RJT> fix this? 
 RJT> It's listed in c:\mptn\etc\services...

OS/2 isn't a multi-user operating system.  There's no purpose to using a
finger program.

Mike Ruskai
thannymeister@yahoo.com


... Born Again?  Nope.  I got it right the first time.

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From: Kari Suomela                                      26-Oct-99 22:13:01
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   28-Oct-99 11:07:21
Subj: no finger?

Tuesday October 26 1999 17:43, Roy J. Tellason wrote to Kari Suomela:

 RT>> It's listed in c:\mptn\etc\services...

 KS>> Is it running?

 RT> Is *what* running?

Toed! - No, try fingerd! :)

 KS


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From: Peter Knapper                                     27-Oct-99 22:22:18
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   28-Oct-99 11:07:21
Subj: no finger?

Hi Roy,

 RJT> I tried running "finger" from the Linux box directed 
 RJT> at the OS/2 box,  and got "connection refused".  What 
 RJT> do I need to change in order to fix this?

The finger program supplied with OS/2 is a finger CLIENT. It needs to connect
with a finger SERVER (fingerd). OS/2 is not a multi-user OS, so it does not
come with fingerd, which is why your Linux box could not find a FINGER Server. 

If you connect to the Internet, then try running finger pointed at a site that 
you think is running a fingerd and you should get a result. Be warned, not all 
sites run fingerd. If you have trouble try -

  finger kcbbs.gen.nz

and then try -

  finger dgd@kcbbs.gen.nz

Last time I looked (about 3 years ago) a fingerd was running there. I think
dgd also has a profile set up so that may report something...

Cheers............pk.


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From: Peter Knapper                                     27-Oct-99 23:18:16
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   28-Oct-99 11:07:21
Subj: OS/2 & Samba under Linux

Hi Roy,

 PK> Another warning, if an OS/2 machine has TCP/IP AND NETBIOS 
 PK> configured, then checking for network connectivity using TCP/IP 
 PK> (EG PING) is going to work LONG before PEER Services (and 
 PK> subsequently the NET USE command) is up and running.

 RJT> Yeah,  that's another aspect of this stuff that is 
 RJT> somewhat puzzling to me, why it takes so long for that 
 RJT> to come up. 

There is logic to it.......;-) TCP/IP is simply a communications protocol
suite, so as a transport layer it gets up and running very quickly. 

OS/2 Peer Services is an SMB Service, and thats a completely different beast.
You need the transport layer runing similar to TCP/IP (NETBIOS), then you need 
to start a Server process, and a Client process (in most cases you can't start 
a Client until the Server is running because the Client uses the Server for
local control). Once they are running you then need to log in a user, and if
that user needs to access a resource on a remote machine then cross platform
communmications need to be established and only then can you use commands such 
as NET USE.

 RJT> I see "The requester service is 
 RJT> starting........" (or something close to that) and it 
 RJT> sits there,  on the screen.  Any idea how I'd make 
 RJT> that one come up minimized?

I am guessing that you are using a shadow of the "Start OS/2 Peer" icon in the 
STARTUP folder. I dont use that, I remove the shadow from STARTUP and just run 
a commandline LOGIN from STARTUP2.CMD and that causes the Requestor to
automatically start without the panel you are probably seeing. its no faster,
but it stops that panel messing the screen......;-)

NOTE: 
It is possible to speed up the startup of OS/2 Peer Services by reducing some
of the timeout intervals, BUT this requires extensive knowledge of the SMB
environment AND the other machines on the LAN with which OS/2 PEER is
communicating. The speed upgrade requires some manual tweaking of various text 
configuration files and if you get just one of the hundreds of options wrong,
your networking (and possibly the entire OS/2 machine) is dead!

Regards...........pk.

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From: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  27-Oct-99 11:16:27
  To: Roy J Tellason                                    28-Oct-99 11:07:21
Subj: no finger?

Hello Roy!

25 Oct 99 23:01, Roy J Tellason wrote to all:
 RT> I tried running "finger" from the Linux box directed at the OS/2 box,
 RT> and got "connection refused".  What do I need to change in order to
 RT> fix this?
 RT> It's listed in c:\mptn\etc\services...
    But is finger daemon running?

Bye!
Cyrill                                [Team OS/2 CV004]

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From: Ian Moote                                         27-Oct-99 13:40:00
  To: ROY J. TELLASON                                   28-Oct-99 11:07:21
Subj: no finger?

RT> I tried running "finger" from the Linux box directed at the OS/2
RT> box,  and got "connection refused".  What do I need to change in
RT> order to fix this?
RT>
RT> It's listed in c:\mptn\etc\services...

Don't quote me on this, but I think you need a finger server running on 
the OS/2 machine. I'm pretty sure I saw one in \tcpip\bin (probably 
FingerD.Exe, just like TelNetD.Exe, FTPD.Exe, and HTTPD.Exe). Don't ask 
me how to use it, though. [:) I'm replying on the road, but I'll try to 
remember to check before I post this reply.

Take care and TTYL.

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From: Bryan Rubingh                                     28-Oct-99 10:28:00
  To: Will Honea                                        28-Oct-99 10:28:00
Subj: LAN Server 3 & Big HD

-=> Quoting Will Honea to Bryan Rubingh <=-

 WH> Two major problems, Bryan.  The most obvious is that Warp 3 is not Y2K
 WH> compliant without at least fp32 and it takes up to fp38 to straighten
 WH> some of the PMMERGE problems.  Personally, I'd suggest fp40 and be

I think there is a 41 (and maybe 42) available now.  Any reason not to
just go all the way?

 WH> done with it.  That will also tweek the IBM1S506 to a level that should
 WH> handle the 20g drive.  Just to be on the safe side, throw a copy of
 WH> DANIS506.ADD in your kit - easier than chasing the IBM1S506.ADD revs
 WH> all over the place.

I haven't checked DANIS506.ADD at all, but from messages I've been
seeing, isn't that just for the VIA chipset or does that work with any
IDE chips?

 WH> The other problem is not so simple.  As far as I can tell, there has
 WH> never been a fixpak released that brings LS 3 up to Y2K compliant and
 WH> I know that there are parts of the IP stack that will die from

When you say IP, I assume you mean Internet Protocol.  We are using
NetBeui as the protocol and there are no internet connections, so is
there still a problem?  We actually did a test back in July of last year
by advancing the date to 12/31/99 and letting it rollover.  We only
spent a couple hours with it that way, but everything seemed to work
correctly.

 WH> timestamp problems.  LS 3 is long out of support but you might be able
 WH> to find the lastest updates at the IBM sites.  The most current listing
 WH> I have are at:

 WH> http://service5.boulder.ibm.com/pspfixpk.nsf/3f5d9c073e8a667
 WH> 8625662800691e9b?OpenView

Thanks.  I was wondering if there were any updates available for it.
However we really haven't had any problems with it.  I have some
customers with Novell and NT and this one with LAN Server and you can
easily guess which one has the least problems.

  Thanks,
  Bryan Rubingh


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