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From: JOHN HENTSCH                                      17-Oct-99 07:53:17
  To: ALL                                               17-Oct-99 19:31:19
Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

Has anyone been successful in getting a D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+ 10/100
Ethernet NIC to work with OS/2 Warp v3 or v4? I can't get it OS/2 to
see the card at boot up.


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From: David Calafrancesco                               17-Oct-99 17:29:08
  To: JOHN HENTSCH                                      17-Oct-99 22:38:03
Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

JOHN HENTSCH wrote in a message to ALL:

 JH> Has anyone been successful in getting a D-Link NIC
 JH> DFE-530TX+ 10/100 Ethernet NIC to work with OS/2 Warp v3 or
 JH> v4? I can't get it OS/2 to see the card at boot up.

What driver are you running? You will want the OS2 ODI driver, not the Lan
Manager 2 or 3 drivers that may be on the same disk. If you haven't used the
driver that came with the card, go back and check the disk for it's OS2
drivers and then get back to us. 

Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2
dave@drakkar.org

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From: Kenneth Duke                                      17-Oct-99 21:58:24
  To: JOHN HENTSCH                                      18-Oct-99 06:45:11
Subj: Re: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

*** Quoting JOHN HENTSCH from a message to ALL ***

JH> Has anyone been successful in getting a D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+ 10/100 
JH> Ethernet NIC to work with OS/2 Warp v3 or v4? I can't get it OS/2 to 
JH> see the card at boot up.

I actually have a D-Link 250 10mbit card here, running with OS/2..
One set of the drivers that come with OS/2 makes it work just fine.. But,
since I've went from a ISA bus, to a PCI card, I don't remember the driver
name.

You must first make sure you have the address information on the card, before
trying to install the driver stuff..


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From: JOHN HENTSCH                                      19-Oct-99 06:04:21
  To: KENNETH DUKE                                      19-Oct-99 15:32:07
Subj: Re: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

On 10/17/1999 in OS/2 LAN (F) Kenneth Duke wrote to John Hentsch:

KD> You must first make sure you have the address information on the
KD> card, before trying to install the driver stuff..

Hi Kenneth. Under ADAPTERS AND PROTOCOL CONFIGURATION in OS/2, the
installed card has two configuration fields:

Network adapter address

Slot number

The Help screens for these two fields aren't very verbose in describing
what OS/2 is looking for here. By running the NIC utility program, the
program reports an address for the card is 6000H but OS/2 won't accept
that string. Do they want the NIC ID number here instead of the actual
address?

Slot number? The PCI slot number or something else?

Also, the protocol numbers for the card, should they be 0 or 1?

I did go to the DLink WEB site and poked around and tried another OS/2
driver for a general PCI bus NIC card the driver allowed OS/2 to see
the card but it would lock the system right after OS/2 reported that it
found the card during CONFIG.SYS bootup.

So, perhaps, the key is getting the SLOT NUMBER and NETWORK ADAPTER
ADDRESS correct.


Here the content of the A:\NDIS\OS2\RTL8139.NIF file:


[RTL8139]
 Type = NDIS
 Title = "RTL8139 Fast Ethernet Adapter"
 Version = 3.01
 DriverName = RTSND$
 XPORTS = NETBEUI LANDD
[File]
 Name = RTSND.OS2
 Path = IBMCOM\MACS

[MEDIUM]
display = "Medium Type"
type = string
strlength = 10
set=_AUTO,_10HALF,_10FULL,_100HALF,_100FULL
optional = yes
default=AUTO
Help = "This keyword support Medium to force Speed/Duplex Mode of this adapter
       card. The strings of this parameter is
'_AUTO','_10Half','_10Full','_100Half','_100Full'"

[NETADDRESS]
tag = NETADDRESS
display = "Network adapter address"
type = string
Strlength = 13
optional = YES
editable = YES
help = "This parameter overrides the network address of the network
 adapter card.  The value of this parameter is a hexadecimal string of
 13 digits, as in @52544C333333.  The address must be unique among
  all other network adapter addresses on the network."

[ETHERID]
tag = ETHERID
display = "Node address"
type = string
Strlength = 13
optional = YES
editable = YES
help = "This parameter using multiple network adapter card.
  The value of this parameter is a hexadecimal string of
 13 digits, as in @52544C333333.  The address must be unique among
  all other network adapter addresses on the network."



[BUSNO]
 Tag=BUSNO
 Display = "Bus Number:"
 Type = decimal
;default = "0"
 Optional = Yes
 Editable = Yes
 range = 0-31
 Virtual = No
 Help = "This parameter is the PCI BUS number to combined this adapter card.
         The value of this parameter is 0-31"



[DEVICENO]
 Tag=DEVICENO
 Display = "Device Number:"
 Type = decimal
;default = "0"
 Optional = Yes
 Editable = Yes
 range = 0-255
 Virtual = No
 Help = "This parameter is the PCI DEVICE number to combined this adapter
card.
        The value of this parameter is 0-255."

[TXFIFO]
 Tag=TXFIFO
 Display = "Early Tx Threshold FIFO:"
 Type = decimal
;default = "0"
 Optional = Yes
 Editable = Yes
 range = 0-63
 Virtual = No
 Help = "Specifies the threshold level in the Tx FiFo begin the transmission.
        The value of this parameter is 0-63 "


<eof>

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From: JOHN HENTSCH                                      19-Oct-99 05:58:10
  To: DAVID CALAFRANCESCO                               19-Oct-99 15:32:07
Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

On 10/17/1999 in OS/2 LAN (F) David Calafrancesco wrote to John
Hentsch:

DC> What driver are you running? You will want the OS2 ODI driver, not
DC> the Lan Manager 2 or 3 drivers that may be on the same disk.

I'm using the OS/2 NIC driver on the diskette that came with the card:

A:\NDIS\OS2

PROTOCOL.INI       64   5-27-98  4:58p
RTL8139.NIF      2113   1-22-99  3:04p
RTSND.OS2       37330   1-07-99 10:18a


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From: Dave Davidson                                     19-Oct-99 06:14:16
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 13:25:14
Subj: Which LAN Card....

 Being new to OS/2 as well as networking, I have a "simple" hardware
 question.

 I'm building a machine for Warp 4 that I want to network with my WIN98
 machines. I have Intel, 3Com and a couple of Generic Ethernet cards, both
 PCI and ISA available for use. Is one of these better suited for OS/2 than
 the other?

 Thanks...


 Have a GREAT one!

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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   20-Oct-99 14:21:15
  To: Dave Davidson                                     20-Oct-99 18:42:10
Subj: Which LAN Card....

Dave Davidson wrote in a message to All:

 DD>  Being new to OS/2 as well as networking, I have a "simple"
 DD> hardware  question.

 DD>  I'm building a machine for Warp 4 that I want to network
 DD> with my WIN98  machines. I have Intel, 3Com and a couple of
 DD> Generic Ethernet cards, both  PCI and ISA available for use.
 DD> Is one of these better suited for OS/2 than  the other?

I can't comment in general,  but on what I use here:  I have several 3Com
3C509 cards in all of my machines,  and they seem to do the job just fine. 
You'll need to boot a dos floppy and configure the card with their utility
_first_,  though,  before you try and install the software,  or it won't see
it properly...

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From: Rich Wonneberger                                  20-Oct-99 21:56:00
  To: Dave Davidson                                     21-Oct-99 06:19:18
Subj: Which LAN Card....

*** Quoting Dave Davidson to All dated 10-19-99 ***
>  I'm building a machine for Warp 4 that I want to network with my WIN98
>  machines. I have Intel, 3Com and a couple of Generic Ethernet cards, 
> both
>  PCI and ISA available for use. Is one of these better suited for OS/2 
> than
>  the other?

Dave,

I have used 3-Com cards here, ISA and PCI.  I have also used 2 Win-Bond cards. 
 As long as the drivers are up to date they should be fine.

If you have 3-Com PCI, I would use it first.  One of mine (A 905 card) didnt
work with my system board.  Found it by running the configure program from
DOS.

Rich
I-Net   turtil@frontiernet.net


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From: David Calafrancesco                               20-Oct-99 21:51:13
  To: JOHN HENTSCH                                      21-Oct-99 06:19:18
Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

JOHN HENTSCH wrote in a message to DAVID CALAFRANCESCO:

 JH> On 10/17/1999 in OS/2 LAN (F) David Calafrancesco wrote to
 JH> John Hentsch:

DC> What driver are you running? You will want the OS2 ODI driver, not
DC> the Lan Manager 2 or 3 drivers that may be on the same disk.

 JH> I'm using the OS/2 NIC driver on the diskette that came with
 JH> the card: 

 JH> A:\NDIS\OS2

 JH> PROTOCOL.INI       64   5-27-98  4:58p
 JH> RTL8139.NIF      2113   1-22-99  3:04p
 JH> RTSND.OS2       37330   1-07-99 10:18a

Then try an rmview /irq and rmview /io and rmview /mem and see if anything
else is conflicting with the card. 


Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2
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From: David Calafrancesco                               20-Oct-99 21:53:07
  To: Dave Davidson                                     21-Oct-99 06:19:18
Subj: Which LAN Card....

Dave Davidson wrote in a message to All:

 DD>  Being new to OS/2 as well as networking, I have a "simple"
 DD> hardware  question.

 DD>  I'm building a machine for Warp 4 that I want to network
 DD> with my WIN98  machines. I have Intel, 3Com and a couple of
 DD> Generic Ethernet cards, both  PCI and ISA available for use.
 DD> Is one of these better suited for OS/2 than  the other?

The 3com is usually fine. Anything that has good stable drivers that get
updated regularly is the best to use. I leave the truly generic cards for the
winxx systems and sometimes even they won't use the weird ones. 

Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2
dave@drakkar.org

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From: Peter Knapper                                     21-Oct-99 22:01:21
  To: Dave Davidson                                     21-Oct-99 10:23:01
Subj: Which LAN Card....

Hi Dave,

 DD>  Being new to OS/2 as well as networking, I have a "simple" hardware
 DD>  question.

 DD>  I'm building a machine for Warp 4 that I want to network with my WIN98
 DD>  machines. I have Intel, 3Com and a couple of Generic Ethernet cards,
both
 DD>  PCI and ISA available for use. Is one of these better 
 DD>  suited for OS/2 than  the other?

I would go for the 3-Com. I have used heaps of 3C509's (ISA) and several
3C905's (PCI) and they all worked fine. It wouldn't hurt to visit the 3-Com
web site and pick up the latest driver for your card as well. OS/2 comes with
3-Com drivers but it helps to have the latest. The PCI 3C905's are superb, no
jumpering, no manual configuring, just plug them in and load the driver via
MPTS. 

Hope this helps........pk.


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From: JOHN HENTSCH                                      21-Oct-99 06:55:29
  To: DAVID CALAFRANCESCO                               21-Oct-99 16:46:01
Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

There is one item that may be a problem. The card's DIAG.EXE program
reportas the SLOT number as 18. However, OS/2's MPTS NIC configuration
program only allows a range from 1 - 16. What is the SLOT number
refferig too? If I were to move the NIC to a different PCI expansion
board "slot", would that change the slot number?

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From: JOHN HENTSCH                                      21-Oct-99 06:00:08
  To: DAVID CALAFRANCESCO                               21-Oct-99 16:46:01
Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

On 10/20/1999 in OS/2 LAN (F) David Calafrancesco wrote to John
Hentsch:

DC> Then try an rmview /irq and rmview /io and rmview /mem and see if
DC> anything else is conflicting with the card.

The situation is that the system is setup as a multiboot system. The card
works fine running win98. The RMVIEW * commands don't even report the
NIC exists. However, the DIAG.EXE util program that came on the
diskette with the card sees the card and runs a test on the card and
reports it is functioning fine.

I entered 0050BAB08496, as reported by the DIAG.EXE program, for the
ADDRESS and set the SLOT NUMBER to 1 in OS/2's MPTS configuration but
OS/2 still cannot see the card at bootup.


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From: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  21-Oct-99 16:55:27
  To: Dave Davidson                                     21-Oct-99 16:46:01
Subj: Which LAN Card....

Hello Dave!

19 Oct 99 06:14, Dave Davidson wrote to All:
 DD>  I'm building a machine for Warp 4 that I want to network with my
 DD> WIN98 machines. I have Intel, 3Com and a couple of Generic Ethernet
 DD> cards, both PCI and ISA available for use. Is one of these better
 DD> suited for OS/2 than the other?
    6 years of networkin' expirience shows me: this must be card without PnP
capabilities, or this PnP may be disabled manually via setup programm or
jumper.
Intels are better. IMHO. ISA-based 3COMs and old PCI 3C590 and 3C90x based
cards
not too bad. Latest 3C90x still very buggy. I can use them only under
wynndoze.
    So, nonamed, dusty NE2000-compatible can give you more stability and speed
than sophisticated brandname.

Bye!
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From: Peter Knapper                                     22-Oct-99 11:19:00
  To: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  22-Oct-99 01:17:29
Subj: Which LAN Card....

Hi Cyrill,

 CV> Latest 3C90x still very buggy. I can use them only under wynndoze.

I am using several 3C905B UTP cards under Warp 3 and Warp 4. Installation was
very simple and painless -
  1. Power off machine.
  2. Plug card into an empty PCI slot.
  3. Power up BIOS check reports a card found in the slot.
  4. From MPTS - Adapter and Protocol Configuration I selected "Other
Adapters", which I then pointed to the 3Com Floppy image I had on the HD
containing the OS/2 drivers for my card and loaded the appropriate driver. I
then selected the correct Network Adapter type from the list (3com Fast
Etherlink/Etherlink XL Family OS/2), added the required protocols, saved the
setup, exited MPTS.
  4. Shutdown/Re-boot of OS/2.
  5. On Boot up, card found, driver loaded, protocols loaded, all ok.

This was in March 99 and all 3C905B cards have run fine using the Feb 99
Drivers since that date. Couldn't have been simpler, no addressing/IRQ issues, 
a completely smooth and painless operation.

 CV>     So, nonamed, dusty NE2000-compatible can give you 
 CV> more stability and speed than sophisticated brandname.

Actually I have to disagree with this. Prior to using the 3C905B's, I used
(and still have 1 running) some NE2000 ISA cards. I HAD to load RESERVE.SYS to 
prevent OS/2 install lockups with the default I/O address because the default
conflicted with my Adaptec SCSI card at 0x300. Once I reconfigured the NE2000
to 0x360 and modified the .NIF accordingly, the NE2000's have been fairly
painless. However I do note that the 3Com performance is better than the
NE2000, and the CPU utilisation is MUCH lower on the 3Com than the NE2000. The 
3Com's are about 4 times the price of an NE2000, but I still prefer the
simpler installation and better performance.

Regards............pk.


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From: Dave Davidson                                     20-Oct-99 23:42:07
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   22-Oct-99 08:23:00
Subj: Which LAN Card....

Hiya Roy,

20-Oct-99 14:21:31, Roy J. Tellason wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: Which LAN Card....
 RJT> Dave Davidson wrote in a message to All:

 DD>> Being new to OS/2 as well as networking, I have a "simple"
 DD>> hardware  question.

 DD>> I'm building a machine for Warp 4 that I want to network with my
 DD>> WIN98  machines. I have Intel, 3Com and a couple of Generic
 DD>> Ethernet cards, both  PCI and ISA available for use.

 RJT> I can't comment in general,  but on what I use here:  I have
 RJT> several 3Com 3C509 cards in all of my machines,  and they seem to
 RJT> do the job just fine.  You'll need to boot a dos floppy and
 RJT> configure the card with their utility _first_, though,  before
 RJT> you try and install the software,  or it won't see it properly..

 Thanks for the info. As I mentioned, I'm new to both OS/2 and Networking.

 Several years ago, I setup a small network using Simply Lantastic with two
 machines. When it worked, it worked well, when it didn't, it was pure
 h*ll. It lasted about a month before I took the cards out and deleted the
 software. It was as close to "plug-n-pray" as one could get.

 One machine was running W4WG and the other DOS/DESQView. Now, I'm
 attempting to link 2 WIN98 SE machines, an OS/2 machine and my Toshiba
 Notebook (with WIN98 SE). Should be fun!

 Oh, I have another question....

 Is it possible to have two _different_ networks on a single machine, using
 the same interface card? Reason for the question.... I have access to the
 Internet at work, thru our LAN (WIN NT). I would like to utilize that with
 my notebook, without messing up my home LAN. Is that possible?

 Thanks...


 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
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From: David Calafrancesco                               21-Oct-99 23:50:19
  To: JOHN HENTSCH                                      22-Oct-99 08:23:00
Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

JOHN HENTSCH wrote in a message to DAVID CALAFRANCESCO:

 JH> There is one item that may be a problem. The card's DIAG.EXE
 JH> program reportas the SLOT number as 18. However, OS/2's MPTS
 JH> NIC configuration program only allows a range from 1 - 16.
 JH> What is the SLOT number refferig too? If I were to move the
 JH> NIC to a different PCI expansion board "slot", would that
 JH> change the slot number?

No clue.. none of my ethernet cards have ever needed that kind of setup. Have
you tried leaving that spot blank in the MPTS config? The drivers for the 3Com 
and Kingston cards that I have used autodetect the cards at boot time. 

Dave Calafrancesco, Team OS/2
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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   22-Oct-99 09:34:24
  To: Dave Davidson                                     22-Oct-99 14:49:17
Subj: Which LAN Card....

Dave Davidson wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 DD>  Oh, I have another question....

 DD>  Is it possible to have two _different_ networks on a single 
 DD> machine, using the same interface card? Reason for the 
 DD> question.... I have access to the Internet at work, thru our 
 DD> LAN (WIN NT). I would like to utilize that with my notebook, 
 DD> without messing up my home LAN. Is that possible? 

Yes,  I would think so,  though I'm not real clear at the moment on the
details of just how you'd go about doing that.  I suspect that going into MPTS 
and then configure would be a good start...

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From: Dave Davidson                                     22-Oct-99 05:54:13
  To: Peter Knapper                                     22-Oct-99 19:48:14
Subj: Which LAN Card....

Hiya Peter,

21-Oct-99 22:01:42, Peter Knapper wrote to Dave Davidson
          Subject: Which LAN Card....
 DD>> Being new to OS/2 as well as networking, I have a "simple"
 DD>> hardware question.

 DD>> I'm building a machine for Warp 4 that I want to network with my
 DD>> WIN98 machines. I have Intel, 3Com and a couple of Generic
 DD>> Ethernet cards, both PCI and ISA available for use. Is one of
 DD>> these better suited for OS/2 than  the other?

 PK> I would go for the 3-Com. I have used heaps of 3C509's (ISA) and
 PK> several 3C905's (PCI) and they all worked fine. It wouldn't hurt
 PK> to visit the 3-Com web site and pick up the latest driver for your
 PK> card as well. OS/2 comes with 3-Com drivers but it helps to have
 PK> the latest. The PCI 3C905's are superb, no jumpering, no manual
 PK> configuring, just plug them in and load the driver via MPTS.

 PK> Hope this helps........pk.

 Yes it does.

 Thanks to you ans all the others that replied. It will help make the
 decision a bit easier.

 Thanks again.


 Have a GREAT one!

 Dave Davidson                        dad50@primary.net
                                      dad500@aol.com




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From: Scott Little                                      21-Oct-99 21:35:11
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 20:05:18
Subj: os/2 + samba

Hi all,

I'm having a problem with OS/2 locking up (totally - needs full reset)
accessing certain files on Samba shares. It works OK reading large files,
directories, etc. but it locks up when reading through database files - so I
think it doesn't like random seeks through index files. I've fiddled with
IBMLAN.INI (and smb.conf) a bit without success. Any ideas?

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From: JOHN HENTSCH                                      22-Oct-99 10:13:00
  To: DAVID CALAFRANCESCO                               22-Oct-99 23:30:00
Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

On 10/21/1999 in OS/2 LAN (F) David Calafrancesco wrote to John
Hentsch:

DC> No clue.. none of my ethernet cards have ever needed that kind of
DC> setup. Have you tried leaving that spot blank in the MPTS config?
DC> The drivers for the 3Com and Kingston cards that I have used
DC> autodetect the cards at boot time.

I found out the the *.nif file that comes with the card set the limits
for the setting in OS/2 configuration. I simply changed the range in
the *.nif file and was able to set the SLOT to 18 using OS/2 MPTS
configuration. That's the number the DIAG.EXE is reporting it is
suppose to be.

I still haven't been able to get OS/2 to see the card. I'm at a loss of
what to do next. I left and message of www.d-link.com but, as expected,
no reply.


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