
                  OS/2 Lan discussion              (Fidonet)

                 Saturday, 18-Sep-1999 to Friday, 24-Sep-1999

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From: Peter Knapper                                     18-Sep-99 08:47:16
  To: Dan Egli                                          18-Sep-99 04:56:11
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hi Dan,

 DE> What do I need to config and how to make Os/2 and Win98 
 DE> Network together? I have files on the Win98 box I want 
 DE> avail to the OS/2 box and Vica Versa.

Assuming they are all on the same LAN Segment, the basic set of rules to get
them to talk are -

  1. Make sure both systems have NETBIOS configured on the LAN card.

  2. Make sure they are BOTH using the exact same DOMAIN NAME. This is the
NETBIOS DOMAIN Name, NOT the TCP/IP DOMAIN NAME, they are different beasts.
Widows defaults to WORKGROUPS, OS/2 defaults to IBMPEERS. Make them the same
and it should be simple from there.

  3. Lastly, if you can see the other machine but can't access any resources
on that machine, then set up the SAME USERID and PASSWORD on each platform. 

The above stteps will give you the simplest configuration to get things
working. 

I hope this helps.........pk.


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From: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  17-Sep-99 14:56:27
  To: Dan Egli                                          19-Sep-99 06:36:09
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hello Dan!

16 Sep 99 05:51, Dan Egli wrote to All:
 DE> What do I need to config and how to make Os/2 and Win98 Network
 DE> together? I have files on the Win98 box I want avail to the OS/2 box
 DE> and Vica Versa.
    Set up MPTS. Add and configure network card. Add IBM OS/2 NETBIOS to
protocol stack. Reboot. Set up IBM PEER following instrictions. Other name of
PEER is File And Print Client. It must be in OS/2 distribution.
    So, set up network card in wynn9x and add Microsoft Network Client to
protocol stack.
    This is a way to connect machines in one network segment. If one of your
machines is behind the router you must add IBM OS/2 TCP/IP and IBM OS/2
NETBIOS
over TCP/IP to stack on OS/2 machine and M$ TCP/IP on wynn machine.

Bye!
Cyrill                                [Team OS/2 CV004]

... The sad thing about Windows bashing is it's all true.
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From: Dan Egli                                          18-Sep-99 21:32:20
  To: Peter Knapper                                     19-Sep-99 06:36:09
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

 -=> Quoting Peter Knapper to Dan Egli <=-

 PK> Hi Dan,

Hello. 
 DE> What do I need to config and how to make Os/2 and Win98 
 DE> Network together? I have files on the Win98 box I want 
 DE> avail to the OS/2 box and Vica Versa.

 PK> Assuming they are all on the same LAN Segment, the basic set of rules
 PK> to get them to talk are -
It's a private lan. 3 Boxes. OS/2. Linux, and Win98 2nd edition.

 PK> 1. Make sure both systems have NETBIOS configured on the LAN card.

Ok, where is that in OS/2's config optioms?
 PK> 2. Make sure they are BOTH using the exact same DOMAIN NAME. This is
 PK> the NETBIOS DOMAIN Name, NOT the TCP/IP DOMAIN NAME, they are different
 PK> beasts. Widows defaults to WORKGROUPS, OS/2 defaults to IBMPEERS. Make
 PK> them the same and it should be simple from there.

Same here, where do I find that?

 PK> 3. Lastly, if you can see the other machine but can't access any
 PK> resources on that machine, then set up the SAME USERID and PASSWORD on
 PK> each platform.  

I'll worry about that later. I don't want username and passwords if I can
avoid it.

Thanks!

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From: Dan Egli                                          18-Sep-99 21:53:10
  To: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  19-Sep-99 08:23:21
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

 -=> Quoting Cyrill Vakhneyev to Dan Egli <=-

 CV> Hello Dan!

 CV> 16 Sep 99 05:51, Dan Egli wrote to All:
 DE> What do I need to config and how to make Os/2 and Win98 Network
 DE> together? I have files on the Win98 box I want avail to the OS/2 box
 DE> and Vica Versa.
 CV> Set up MPTS. Add and configure network card. Add IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
 CV> to protocol stack. Reboot. Set up IBM PEER following instrictions.
 CV> Other name of PEER is File And Print Client. It must be in OS/2
 CV> distribution. So, set up network card in wynn9x and add Microsoft
 CV> Network Client to protocol stack.
 CV> This is a way to connect machines in one network segment. If one
 CV> of your machines is behind the router you must add IBM OS/2 TCP/IP and
 CV> IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
 CV> over TCP/IP to stack on OS/2 machine and M$ TCP/IP on wynn machine.

Ok. No router. I have 3 machines: Linux, OS/2 and Win98. Linux and 98 talk
fine (Now that samba is installed). OS/2 won't see anyone but itself that I
can 
tell. 

W/O reinstalling, how do I setup the IBM PEER or whatever it was?

Thanks!
... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...

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From: Peter Knapper                                     19-Sep-99 21:06:18
  To: Dan Egli                                          19-Sep-99 10:46:10
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hi Dan,

 PK> Assuming they are all on the same LAN Segment, the basic set of rules
 PK> to get them to talk are -

 DE> It's a private lan. 3 Boxes. OS/2. Linux, and Win98 2nd edition.

If they are all connected to the same Ethernet cable with no routers between
them (which sounds like what you have) then they are on the same segment.

 PK> 1. Make sure both systems have NETBIOS configured on the LAN card.

 DE> Ok, where is that in OS/2's config optioms?

Your Ethernet card and the protocols that it supports are configured using
MPTS (Multi-Protool transport Services). You should find an MPTS icon from
Desktop -> System Setup. 

 PK> 2. Make sure they are BOTH using the exact same DOMAIN NAME. This is
 PK> the NETBIOS DOMAIN Name, NOT the TCP/IP DOMAIN NAME, they are  PK>
different beasts. Widows defaults to WORKGROUPS, OS/2 defaults to  PK>
IBMPEERS. Make them the same and it should be simple from there.

 DE> Same here, where do I find that?

This is normally setup when you install OS/2 File and Print Client (FPC). If
you wish to change the default values used at OS/2 install, then you need to
perform the FPC Install again. It detects if it has already been installed and 
allows you to change the settings including the DOMAIN name. 

You can find this from Desktop -> System Setup -> Install/Remove -> File and
Print Client Install/Remove. If you have already installed FPC, dont change
anything until you get to the DOMAIN NAME. Just say NO to prevent any change
to anything else, and continue though the install (which probably wont do much 
other than change the DOMAIN name). 

 PK> 3. Lastly, if you can see the other machine but can't access any
 PK> resources on that machine, then set up the SAME 
 PK> USERID and PASSWORD on each platform.  

 DE> I'll worry about that later. I don't want username and 
 DE> passwords if I can avoid it.

IBM FPC requires an administrator to be logged in to be able to build shares
and connections. If you make an Administrator login EXACTLY the same name as
used onthe Windows platform, with EXACTLY the same password, then life will be 
very easy for you to get connections working.

I hope this helps........pk.


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From: Will Honea                                        19-Sep-99 13:15:02
  To: Dan Egli                                          19-Sep-99 13:15:02
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Peter Knapper wrote to Dan Egli on 09-19-1999

PK> This is normally setup when you install OS/2 File and Print 
PK> Client (FPC). If you wish to change the default values used 
PK> at OS/2 install, then you need to perform the FPC Install 
PK> again. It detects if it has already been installed and 
PK> allows you to change the settings including the DOMAIN 
PK> name. 

I lost part of this, but if this is Warp 4, you can change the domain
and workstation name from the desktop.  Connections->Network->network
services->Shared Resources and Network Connections wiil do it w/o a
re-install.  You can also just edit the computer name and domain in
\ibmlan\ibmlan.ini regardless of which version you use - including Warp
Server.
 
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
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From: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  20-Sep-99 10:25:04
  To: Dan Egli                                          20-Sep-99 13:24:17
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hello Dan!

18 Sep 99 20:53, Dan Egli wrote to Cyrill Vakhneyev:
 DE> Ok. No router. I have 3 machines: Linux, OS/2 and Win98. Linux and 98
 DE> talk fine (Now that samba is installed). OS/2 won't see anyone but
 DE> itself that I can tell.
 DE> W/O reinstalling, how do I setup the IBM PEER or whatever it was?
    OK. In case of leenjux+samba set up NETBIOS OVER IP on OS/2 via MPTS.
'cause samba is, AFAIK, pure TCPBEUI aka NETBIOS OVER IP.

Bye!
Cyrill                                [Team OS/2 CV004]

... Windows is to OS/2 what Etch-a-Sketch is to art.
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From: Fredrik Gustavsson                                20-Sep-99 17:51:16
  To: Nick Inbody                                       20-Sep-99 20:42:18
Subj: Comm Manager/2

Hello Nick.

 NI> Anyone seen the following problem in Communications Manager/2?  I have
 NI> a terminal session running to an AS 400.  Everything works fine,
 NI> except...the display font has a bunch of garbage in it.  The correct
 NI> text is there, but there are additional scrambled characters directly
 NI> below the text.  Even for the blank spaces of the display!  Help!

Have you tried to change size of the display so that it changes the font by
changing the width-height separate from each other? I had a similar problem
and I found a size where it worked fine.

/Fredrik

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From: Leonard Erickson                                  20-Sep-99 14:11:02
  To: Dan Egli                                          21-Sep-99 07:57:16
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

 -=> Quoting Dan Egli to Peter Knapper <=-

 PK> 3. Lastly, if you can see the other machine but can't access any
 PK> resources on that machine, then set up the SAME USERID and PASSWORD on
 PK> each platform.  

 DE> I'll worry about that later. I don't want username and passwords if I
 DE> can avoid it. 

I don't think you have any choice when dealing with networking software.

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From: Mike Roark                                        20-Sep-99 17:39:24
  To: Dan Egli                                          22-Sep-99 03:20:18
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hello Dan!

Saturday September 18 1999 21:32, Dan Egli wrote to Peter Knapper:

 PK>> different beasts. Widows defaults to WORKGROUPS, OS/2 defaults to
 PK>> IBMPEERS. Make them the same and it should be simple from there.

 DE> Same here, where do I find that?

In Warp 4, it is in the shared connections folder. Open connections, Network
Services, and click on Shared connections and files. A screen pops up, and
fill in the blanks. For WinXX, and be aware, I've only done this with NT, it
is the control panel, Network IIRC.

 DE> I'll worry about that later. I don't want username and passwords if I
 DE> can avoid it.

I doubt that Win9x will allow you to connect to the network without it. And
Warp doesn't afaik.


Have a good day!!
Mike
Internet bcomber@cave.fido.de
This OS/2 system uptime is 0d 22h 08m 38s 281ms (en).

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From: Dan Egli                                          21-Sep-99 19:52:14
  To: Peter Knapper                                     22-Sep-99 06:08:25
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

 -=> Quoting Peter Knapper to Dan Egli <=-

 PK> Hi Dan,


Hi again, 

  Doesn't seem to be working. Here's my setup:

Win98 2nd edition machine, and OS/2 machine are only ones running (Linux box's 
HDD just died)

I go into Connections, to Network and I see no computers. So I double click on
Network->File and Print Client Resource Browser. Up comes a logon box (Doesn't 
OS/2 support Share level access?) so I type in my name and the only password
I've used on the windows box 
and it says the logon was unsuccessfull. I'm lost. Never setup a OS/2 network
before.

thanks in advance!

P.S. EACH DRIVE in the Win98 box is shared, share level access, Full access.
So there are resources available.

... Isn't there a statute of limitations on stupidity?

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From: Peter Knapper                                     22-Sep-99 21:37:17
  To: Dan Egli                                          22-Sep-99 13:35:26
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hi Dan,

 DE>   Doesn't seem to be working. Here's my setup:

 DE> Win98 2nd edition machine, and OS/2 machine are only 
 DE> ones running (Linux box's HDD just died)

 DE> I go into Connections, to Network and I see no 
 DE> computers.

Thats probably because there is no user logged on to be able to view what
exists on the Network. It could also be because of a Networking issue, however 
lets get you logged into the OS/2 machine first before we look elsewhere...

 DE> So I double click on Network->File and Print Client Resource Browser. 
 DE> Up comes a logon box (Doesn't OS/2 support Share level access?) 

I dont know what you mean by "share level" access. OS/2 requires Connections
and Shares to be defined by a user who is logged into the OS/2 machine with
the appropriate level of access, to be able to define a Share or Connection,
before you can share or connect to anything. 

Under OS/2 there are 4 user "Levels" of access - 
  1. Administrator. This person is the "owner" of the machine. Only ONE person 
can OWN a machine, however you can define other users to also have
Administrator rights. The FIRST person defined as a user on the mcahine is
assigned the machine owner.
  2. Local Administrator. Similar to 1, however this level does not provide
Administrator rights to other machines by default.
  3. Accounts operator. This is actually the same level as 4 below, but with
this option checked this person is able manage the User access rights for all
USERS on the system. They cannot alter the "rights" of people at Level 1 or 2. 

  4. User. A normal system users who cannot set up or change Connections, nor
can they set up or change Shares.

I just have the one user set up on my home machines for me.

 DE> so I type in my name and the only password 
 DE> I've used on the windows box and it says the logon was 
 DE> unsuccessfull.

The default install configuration of Peer Services sets up operation as a
standalone Networked machine. The default Login is a "Peer Login" that will
provide access to resrouces defined in that machine, PLUS access to remote
resources defined for that Userid AND Password.

If you were not prompted for a Default USERID and PASSWORD when you installed
OS/2 or OS/2 Peer Services, then try using a Login of USERID and a password of 
PASSWORD. That should get you in. If that isn't accepted, then let me know and 
I can provide details of how to RESET the Peer Services environment back to
the installation default. From an OS/2 Command Line, try entering -

  NET STATUS
  NET VIEW

and report the output from these back here. Note that the first may provide
quite a few lines of output so it may pay to re-direct it to a file.


 DE> I'm lost. Never setup a OS/2 network before.

Like most of OS/2, the hardest part is forgetting all the "DOS THINK", and
Windows way of doing things. Once you get to understand WHY OS/2 wants more
details before it lets you do things, then you start to see all the reasons
behind most of the changes in Networking that have come about since Win311
started polluting the workplace.


 DE> P.S. EACH DRIVE in the Win98 box is shared, share level 
 DE> access, Full access. So there are resources available.

Once you are logged in, THEN you should be able to browse the network and find 
the Windows machine. From then you can build connections...

Again, I am not familiar with the term "Share Level Access", unless you mean 
"Open to anyone that wants to read/write to it"...

I hope this helps.........pk.


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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   22-Sep-99 11:04:11
  To: all                                               22-Sep-99 13:53:26
Subj: name resolution issue?

Been playing with web stuff since yesterday...

I'm running the Apache server on the Linux box,  and have started to look at
some of the html doc files with a browser.  I was pleased to find that it was
no big deal to fire up the w95 box and use IE on there to do the same,  too.

However,  I'm running into some kind of a snag with trying it from the OS/2
box using Netscape.  I can type in http://(IP number)/index.html and get the
page across and displayed just fine.  But when I type in http://(machine
name)/index.html,  it sits there with the status line on the bottom saying
"Connnect: Looking up host: (machine name)..." and isn't apparently doing a
damn thing.

Do I need a "hosts" file or something similar on the OS/2 box?  My previous
messing around with TCP/IP stuff (mostly ftp) has been all using numbers up
until this point.

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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   22-Sep-99 10:32:07
  To: Dan Egli                                          22-Sep-99 13:53:26
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Dan Egli wrote in a message to Peter Knapper:

 -=> Quoting Peter Knapper to Dan Egli <=-

 PK> Hi Dan,

 DE> Hi again, 

 DE>   Doesn't seem to be working. Here's my setup:

 DE> Win98 2nd edition machine, and OS/2 machine are only ones 
 DE> running (Linux box's HDD just died)

 DE> I go into Connections, to Network and I see no computers. So I 
 DE> double click on Network->File and Print Client Resource 
 DE> Browser. Up comes a logon box (Doesn't OS/2 support Share level 
 DE> access?) 

Apparently not,  from what I can see,  or at least not the way w98 does.

 DE> so I type in my name and the only password I've used on the 
 DE> windows box and it says the logon was unsuccessfull. I'm lost. 
 DE> Never setup a OS/2 network before.

Here's a snip from where that one bit me,  along with a bit of reply from
Peter:

 RJT> Clicking on the third and fourth items won't let me get past a 
 RJT> password prompt, I'm not sure what I need to configure to fix 
 RJT> this.

 PK> When you installed OS/2 PEER, 1 of 2 things happened. Either your FIRST 
PK> startup of the network asked for a Userid and Password that 
 PK> beccame the OWNERof the mcahine, or the system asigned the 
 PK> DEFAULT values of USERID and PASSWORD. That Userid is the OWNER 
 PK> of the Network environment on that machine, and that is what it 
 PK> is asking for. Basically you MUST be logged in as an 
 PK> Administrator to be able to run the Administration utilities! 
 PK> Once you have access you can assign a NEW user with FULL Access 
 PK> rights and remove the default one.

 PK> If you have forgotten the Userid and/or the password that you 
 PK> set them to when you installed Networking, then you have no 
 PK> option but to reset the User Accounts database. Doing this will 
 PK> also wipe ALL your OS/2 PEER configuration settings and erase 
 PK> your shares and connections! If you have not yet set any of 
 PK> these up, then you are safe to reset them all.

 PK> Its actually quite easy to do this, go into the INSTALL of PEER 
 PK> Services and follow through the install process until it finds 
 PK> the existing Database and asks if you want to RESET it. Reply 
 PK> YES and it isntalls tehe defaults again.

What I need to do here is figure out a way to _automate_ that login process, 
so I can have a machine that'll boot right into using drives elsewhere (on the 
Linux box) as a file server. 

 DE> P.S. EACH DRIVE in the Win98 box is shared, share level access, 
 DE> Full access. So there are resources available.

Once you get past the login hassle,  go into "sharing and connecting" (at
least that's what it's called under my Warp Connect setup,  I don't know what
version you're running there and what it might be called in there),  and click 
on "connection".  At this point if you're not logged on you'll be prompted to
do so.  (This is a _local_ logon,  as opposed to a remote one.)  There'll be a 
"create" option in there,  and in the box that pops up when you select that
you should see the other machine listed under "workstations",  and its
sharable resources listed as well under "share/alias",  plus a box to assign a 
local drive letter to whatever you're setting up.

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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   22-Sep-99 13:03:12
  To: Peter Knapper                                     22-Sep-99 17:54:17
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Dan Egli:

 PK> Again, I am not familiar with the term "Share Level Access", 
 PK> unless you mean  "Open to anyone that wants to read/write to 
 PK> it"...

That's pretty much what it seems to mean...

The other choice in that particular portion of win9x setup is "user level
access",  which requires that a user be logged in with a username and
password.  You can then set things up differently for each user,  in terms of
what they can do.  The last time I looked at enabling that option it asked me
where the nameserver lived,  and I backed out of that choice.  <g>

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From: Will Honea                                        22-Sep-99 20:54:01
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   22-Sep-99 20:54:01
Subj: name resolution issue?

Roy J. Tellason wrote to all on 09-22-1999

RT> Do I need a "hosts" file or something similar on the OS/2 
RT> box?  My previous messing around with TCP/IP stuff (mostly 
RT> ftp) has been all using numbers up until this point.

Either that or a DNS (such as BIND) on either the server or the Warp
box.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
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From: Will Honea                                        22-Sep-99 20:58:02
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   22-Sep-99 20:58:02
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Roy J. Tellason wrote to Dan Egli on 09-22-1999

RT> What I need to do here is figure out a way to _automate_ 
RT> that login process,  so I can have a machine that'll boot 
RT> right into using drives elsewhere (on the Linux box) as a 
RT> file server. 

Aw, Roy, slap yourself.  

File name: <boot>\startup.cmd

contents:

net start REQ

logon <id> /p:<pw> /v:local

net use m: \\machine1\resource

net use n: \\machine2\resource

etc....
 
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
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From: Rob Basler                                        22-Sep-99 22:27:00
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   23-Sep-99 08:43:18
Subj: name resolution issue?

RJT>However,  I'm running into some kind of a snag with trying it from the
OS/2
RJT>box using Netscape.  I can type in http://(IP
RJT>number)/index.html and get the page across and displayed
RJT>just fine.  But when I type in http://(machine
RJT>name)/index.html,  it sits there with the status line on
RJT>the bottom saying "Connnect: Looking up host: (machine
RJT>name)..." and isn't apparently doing a damn thing.

RJT>Do I need a "hosts" file or something similar on the OS/2
RJT>box?

Yup, MPTN\ETC\HOSTS should fix you up.  Mine looks like:

192.168.0.100    virgo
192.168.0.101    spica

Rob.
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From: Rob Basler                                        22-Sep-99 22:34:01
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   23-Sep-99 08:43:18
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

RJT>What I need to do here is figure out a way to _automate_
RJT>that login process,  so I can have a machine that'll boot
RJT>right into using drives elsewhere (on the Linux box) as a
RJT>file server.

[D:\muglib]logon /?
The syntax of the command is not correct.
The correct syntax is:

LOGON [userid [/R]]
      [/P[:|=]password]
      [[/L] | [/N[[:|=]node]] | [/V[:|=]{L | LOCAL | N | NONE}] |
                       [[/D[[:|=]domain]] [/V[:|=]{D | DOMAIN}]]]
      [/T | /S]

LOGON [/O{[:|=]option}]


Rob.
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From: Peter Knapper                                     23-Sep-99 19:43:28
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   23-Sep-99 10:24:28
Subj: name resolution issue?

Hi Roy,

 RJT> Do I need a "hosts" file or something similar on the OS/2 box?

Yep, without a DNS as reference you need to provide manual mapping of names to 
IP addresses. Go into the TCP/IP Configuration utility and select the
HOSTNAMES Tab. Go to PAGE 2 of HOSTNAMES, and ADD an entry for the host you
wish to contact. Make sure the "Look though HOSTS list before going to
nameserver box is checked, save that and you should be away.

Cheers...............pk.


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From: Peter Knapper                                     23-Sep-99 19:50:21
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   23-Sep-99 10:24:28
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hi Roy,

 RJT> What I need to do here is figure out a way to 
 RJT> _automate_ that login process,  so I can have a 
 RJT> machine that'll boot right into using drives elsewhere 
 RJT> (on the Linux box) as a file server. 

When you set up SHARES and CONNECTIONS for these resources make sure the
"Autostart" (or "Start up connection/share at System Startup") checkbox is
tagged, and then you dont actually need to have a User logged in to have these 
automatically activated at system boot up for you.

Alternatively you can log in a default user using the commandline LOGON
utility and then build the SHARES and CONNECTIONS using the NET SHARE xxxx and 
NET USE xxxx commandline commands, however in this case the logged in User
must have the rights to do this.

I hope this helps.............pk.


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From: Peter Knapper                                     23-Sep-99 20:02:28
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   23-Sep-99 10:24:28
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hi Roy,

 RJT> The other choice in that particular portion of win9x 
 RJT> setup is "user level access",  which requires that a 
 RJT> user be logged in with a username and password.  You 
 RJT> can then set things up differently for each user,  in 
 RJT> terms of what they can do.  The last time I looked at 
 RJT> enabling that option it asked me where the nameserver 
 RJT> lived,  and I backed out of that choice.  <g>

I gave up shaking my head at the way M$ set things up some time ago, they
leave holes in things so large a train could plough through and not touch the
sides...;-)

Cheers..........pk.


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From: Will Honea                                        23-Sep-99 19:34:01
  To: Peter Knapper                                     23-Sep-99 19:34:01
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Peter Knapper wrote to Roy J. Tellason on 09-23-1999

PK> When you set up SHARES and CONNECTIONS for these resources 
PK> make sure the "Autostart" (or "Start up connection/share at 
PK> System Startup") checkbox is tagged, and then you dont 
PK> actually need to have a User logged in to have these 
PK> automatically activated at system boot up for you.

Somewhere after ip08407 this got busted and the latest (ip08412) still
hasn't fixed it.  Shares are started fine but connections are not made
at startup.  Took a while to catch since I normally use a startup.cmd
to establish DB2 database connections anyway so I just added the normal
connections.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
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From: Neil Walker                                       20-Sep-99 20:35:17
  To: Peter Knapper                                     23-Sep-99 23:21:15
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hello Peter!

Saturday September 18 1999 08:47, you wrote to Dan Egli:

 PK> OS/2 defaults to IBMPEERS.

Hmm. Both of the versions of OS/2 I run here (Warp 4.0 and OS/2 Server for
E-Business) default to DOMAIN01.


Be lucky,


Neil

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From: MIKE RUSKAI                                       23-Sep-99 09:58:00
  To: ROY J. TELLASON                                   24-Sep-99 07:09:01
Subj: name resolution issue?

Some senseless babbling from Roy J. Tellason to All
on 09-22-99  11:04 about name resolution issue?...

 RJT> Been playing with web stuff since yesterday...

 RJT> I'm running the Apache server on the Linux box,  and have started to
 RJT> look at some of the html doc files with a browser.  I was pleased to
 RJT> find that it was no big deal to fire up the w95 box and use IE on there
 RJT> to do the same,  too. 
 RJT> However,  I'm running into some kind of a snag with trying it from the
 RJT> OS/2 box using Netscape.  I can type in http://(IP number)/index.html
 RJT> and get the page across and displayed just fine.  But when I type in
 RJT> http://(machine name)/index.html,  it sits there with the status line
 RJT> on the bottom saying "Connnect: Looking up host: (machine name)..." and
 RJT> isn't apparently doing a damn thing.

 RJT> Do I need a "hosts" file or something similar on the OS/2 box?  My
 RJT> previous messing around with TCP/IP stuff (mostly ftp) has been all
 RJT> using numbers up until this point.

The address needs to be a resolvable host name or an IP address.  The 
NetBIOS machine name is not a resolvable host name, unless you make it that 
way.  Using a hosts file would work well enough.

Mike Ruskai
thannymeister@yahoo.com


... "Warp 3, Scotty... and close those damn Windows!"

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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   23-Sep-99 16:33:25
  To: Peter Knapper                                     24-Sep-99 07:25:01
Subj: name resolution issue?

Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 RJT> Do I need a "hosts" file or something similar on the OS/2 box?

 PK> Yep, without a DNS as reference you need to provide manual 
 PK> mapping of names to IP addresses. Go into the TCP/IP 
 PK> Configuration utility and select the HOSTNAMES Tab. Go to PAGE 
 PK> 2 of HOSTNAMES, and ADD an entry for the host you wish to 
 PK> contact. Make sure the "Look though HOSTS list before going to 
 PK> nameserver box is checked, save that and you should be away.

Got it.  Though I would have been just as willing to create a small text file
in the proper directory (once I knew where the proper directory _was_ :-) as
someone else suggested.

And,  testing it out just now,  it works,  too.

Now,  if I can just get this notebook to stop pestering me about autostarting
sendmail on my way out...

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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   23-Sep-99 16:40:23
  To: Peter Knapper                                     24-Sep-99 07:25:01
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

 PK> Hi Roy,

 RJT> What I need to do here is figure out a way to _automate_ that 
 RJT> login process,  so I can have a machine that'll boot right into 
 RJT> using drives elsewhere (on the Linux box) as a file server. 

 PK> When you set up SHARES and CONNECTIONS for these resources make 
 PK> sure the "Autostart" (or "Start up connection/share at System 
 PK> Startup") checkbox is tagged, and then you dont actually need 
 PK> to have a User logged in to have these automatically activated 
 PK> at system boot up for you.

Are you referring to "Connect to resource at logon" in the settings for a
given share?  I have that checked here,  in the one I just opened,  but it
also prompted me to login before it'd bring up the settings notebook.  It was
a bit weird,  it brought up the frame of that window but then stopped for a
bit until it brought up the rest of it...

 PK> Alternatively you can log in a default user using the 
 PK> commandline LOGON utility and then build the SHARES and 
 PK> CONNECTIONS using the NET SHARE xxxx and NET USE xxxx 
 PK> commandline commands, however in this case the logged in
 PK> User must have the rights to do this.

I'm going to have to play around some with the command-line versions of some
of this stuff here...

 PK> I hope this helps.............pk.

Yep!  Every little bit helps.

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