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From: damir@g11.net                                     18-Dec-99 02:17:08
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 04:52:28
Subj: Re: Installing NT with OS/2

From: Damir Laurenzi <damir@g11.net>

hi

Janne Ropponen wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I currently have Warp 4 (FP12), DOS and BeOS installed on two disks
> with the following configuration (the drive letters refer to how
> OS/2 sees them):
> 
> Primary Master (6.5 GB):
>  -   boot manager
>  -c: 1 GB FAT (DOS boot)
>  -d: 2 GB FAT
>  -   2 GB BeOS
>  -e: 1.5 GB HPFS (OS/2 boot)
> Secondary Master (9 GB):
>  -f: 9 GB HPFS (data)
> Primary Slave (ZIP-100) g:
> Secondary Slave (CD-ROM) h:
> SCSI: (CD-R/W) i:

what are primary an logical?

> Will this work?.........

bad news.
os2 "see" ntfs and assign a disk letter to that partition. if you want
to maintain your actual assignment of letter you must create the ntfs
partition after the one of os2. nt don't access hpfs partition.


> 
> What I see as potential problems are:
>  a) The OS/2 boot partition on the 9.1 GB disk will (partly) go
>     over the 1024 cylinder "limit". Is this a problem anymore?

maybe. the problem of 1024 cylinder is for boot code. the bios (who must
read this code) cannot pass the limit.

>  b) NT might not like to install after everything else (although
>     that would be very stupid, as every other OS will install where
>     I want it to and when I want it to.

nt need to write at the start of the 1st disk, no matter where you put
the system partition. you don't have problem because nt recognize the
fat partition.
> 
> I am perfectly happy to let the
> extra space over the 1024 cylinders go unpartitioned - I just shrink
> the other partitions a bit.

you can use the extra space for data

> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
>  - Janne (jrop@st.jyu.fi)


bye
damir

p.s.
sorry for language errors. be patient.

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From: james.adams@prodigy.net                           18-Dec-99 10:16:23
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 16:45:19
Subj: Re: PCMCIA Card for USB Zip 250 Drive

From: James Adams <james.adams@prodigy.net>

I tried the Dani drivers but still no luck.  There seems to be a resource
conflict of
some type.  Does anyone know what resources the ZIP250 PCMCIA card wants to
use?

"William L. Hartzell" wrote:

> Dear James:
> Try the Dani drivers found on Hobbes.  She has said that she has them
> working in the configuration that you got.
>
> "James F. Adams" wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any experiences with the PCMCIA USB to ATAPI card for
> > the
> > ZIP 250 drive.  In my setup, in recognizes the card as a hard disk and
> > the the card
> > is inserted.  It wont make it ready however.  This is Warp 4, current
> > drivers, fix pack

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From: mthiv@znetrover.com                               18-Dec-99 15:46:13
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 19:57:07
Subj: Syquest EzFlyer, external parrallel to scsi?

From: mthiv@znetrover.com (Martin T.)

Hi,

I own a Syquest EzFlyer 230 Mb parrallel port and a scsi Adapter from 
Adaptec that comes with a scsi scanner. 

I read on Dejanews that somes externals drives parrallel port from 
Syquest are scsi drive with a special parrallel port adapter.

If that is right, I just have to plug the external drive to the scsi 
adapter with a scsi cable, update the drivers and anything should be 
OK. Before I try this installation I want to know if someone had try 
this whit success or hear about this. How to setup the #ID of the 
Ezflyer drive?

Any tips ?

Thanks




No-spam delete the 'z'

Martin Thivierge
Quebec, Canada

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From: steeltoe@kickass.com                              18-Dec-99 16:06:19
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 19:57:07
Subj: Need adapter for PMCIA Type II

From: steeltoe@kickass.com

I need to connect a FlashCard to my Warp 4.0 system. The FlashCard 
will contain jpegs
so I'm hoping I don't need a fancy schmancy software/adapter package 
(spelled
'expensive') but simply a plain interface from my Type II adapter into
either the parallel port 
or the USB port. I'm hoping that DaniS506 will show the FlashCard as a
connected hard
drive and I can acess the jpeg files routinely.

Again, my hardware is FlashCard > Type II Adapter > PMCIA socket on 
xxxx adapter >
any suitable port on my Abit BP6 motherboard. I already have the Type 
II adapter-
I just need the PMCIA adapter or 'port'.

Manufacturer and source would be much appreciated. My confusion 
results from the
separateness of the PMCIA world and the Digital Camera world where 
never the twain
seem to meet. Need to cut to the nitty-gritty here before I have to 
start spending $.

The jpegs are fairly standard. They contain a small amount of 
additional file info in the
header. Have not presented a problem to PMView so far.

TIA,
Vacuo

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From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com                                 18-Dec-99 20:44:29
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 20:28:12
Subj: Re: Need adapter for PMCIA Type II

From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com (David LaRue)

  Vacuo,

  Look into the SCM SwapBox's.  They're at www.scmswapbox.com or swapbox.com.
A search on Yahoo will find them.  $20 to $60 depending on your needs.  There
are ISA card through SCSI, internal or external, 1 to 6 slots, Type I through
III.

  Just load it and use OS/2's install.  I have used the Kodak
DC210/260/265/290
with it.

  Twain isn't needed or really desired.  None of the vendors seem to develop
good serial/remote software.

  Good luck,

  David

In <83gbee$aa$0@198.69.29.144>, steeltoe@kickass.com writes:
>I need to connect a FlashCard to my Warp 4.0 system. The FlashCard 
>will contain jpegs
>so I'm hoping I don't need a fancy schmancy software/adapter package 
>(spelled
>'expensive') but simply a plain interface from my Type II adapter into
>either the parallel port 
>or the USB port. I'm hoping that DaniS506 will show the FlashCard as a
>connected hard
>drive and I can acess the jpeg files routinely.
>
>Again, my hardware is FlashCard > Type II Adapter > PMCIA socket on 
>xxxx adapter >
>any suitable port on my Abit BP6 motherboard. I already have the Type 
>II adapter-
>I just need the PMCIA adapter or 'port'.
>
>Manufacturer and source would be much appreciated. My confusion 
>results from the
>separateness of the PMCIA world and the Digital Camera world where 
>never the twain
>seem to meet. Need to cut to the nitty-gritty here before I have to 
>start spending $.
>
>The jpegs are fairly standard. They contain a small amount of 
>additional file info in the
>header. Have not presented a problem to PMView so far.
>
>TIA,
>Vacuo

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From: cocke@catherders.com                              18-Dec-99 19:32:00
  To: All                                               18-Dec-99 21:14:14
Subj: Re: Syquest EzFlyer, external parrallel to scsi?

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>

I also own an Ezflyer 230.  That is NOT a SCSI device.


On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 15:46:26 GMT, Martin T. wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I own a Syquest EzFlyer 230 Mb parrallel port and a scsi Adapter from 
>Adaptec that comes with a scsi scanner. 
>
>I read on Dejanews that somes externals drives parrallel port from 
>Syquest are scsi drive with a special parrallel port adapter.
>
>If that is right, I just have to plug the external drive to the scsi 
>adapter with a scsi cable, update the drivers and anything should be 
>OK. Before I try this installation I want to know if someone had try 
>this whit success or hear about this. How to setup the #ID of the 
>Ezflyer drive?
>
>Any tips ?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>No-spam delete the 'z'
>
>Martin Thivierge
>Quebec, Canada
>

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From: popeye-2@xoommail.com                             18-Dec-99 20:34:24
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 03:28:17
Subj: zip

From: Paul Hildebrandt <popeye-2@xoommail.com>

Having problems detecting my zip drive. Here's my setup:

Warp 4 on a Pentium 166 w/ mmx

IDE controller 1 has a 2 gig HDD as primary and the zip as a slave
IDE controller 2 has a 500meg HDD as primary and a cdrom as slave

If I partition the 500 meg drive so OS2 can see it I lose my zip drive.
I also noticed that I can't format the 500 meg HDD. I keep getting this
error:

SYS1274: The size of the requested partition exceeds 2,048MB or is
beyond cylinder 1023 of your disk.

Any idea whats going on?

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            19-Dec-99 06:02:29
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Syquest EzFlyer, external parrallel to scsi?

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

I believe that *some* Syquest drives are SCSI with an internal
SCSI-to-parallel adapter. The EZFlyer series, however, are (E)IDE with
an internal (E)IDE-to-parallel adapter.

There is an external SCSI version of the EZFlyer 230, but that is a
different animal altogether.

Alan

"Martin T." wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I own a Syquest EzFlyer 230 Mb parrallel port and a scsi Adapter from
> Adaptec that comes with a scsi scanner.
> 
> I read on Dejanews that somes externals drives parrallel port from
> Syquest are scsi drive with a special parrallel port adapter.
> 
> If that is right, I just have to plug the external drive to the scsi
> adapter with a scsi cable, update the drivers and anything should be
> OK. Before I try this installation I want to know if someone had try
> this whit success or hear about this. How to setup the #ID of the
> Ezflyer drive?
> 
> Any tips ?

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From: mthiv@znetrover.com                               19-Dec-99 16:14:20
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 12:53:18
Subj: Re: Syquest EzFlyer, external parrallel to scsi?

From: mthiv@znetrover.com (Martin T.)

Thanks, for the informations. 

No-spam delete the 'z'

Martin Thivierge
Quebec, Canada

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     19-Dec-99 12:00:21
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 12:53:18
Subj: Re: zip

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 20:34:48 -0500, Paul Hildebrandt wrote:

->Having problems detecting my zip drive. Here's my setup:
->
->Warp 4 on a Pentium 166 w/ mmx
->
->IDE controller 1 has a 2 gig HDD as primary and the zip as a slave
->IDE controller 2 has a 500meg HDD as primary and a cdrom as slave
->
->If I partition the 500 meg drive so OS2 can see it I lose my zip drive.
->I also noticed that I can't format the 500 meg HDD. I keep getting this
->error:
->
->SYS1274: The size of the requested partition exceeds 2,048MB or is
->beyond cylinder 1023 of your disk.

For this part of the problem you need newer IDE drivers than shipped with
Warp 4. The originals contained a bug that meant that drives attached to
the secondary controller were not detected as LBA capable. Upgrading to
the latest version of IBM1S506.ADD from
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe may
well fix the first problem too.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: pat@iquest.net                                    19-Dec-99 13:24:16
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 16:35:02
Subj: LS120 "a" drive

From: Pat Shanahan <pat@iquest.net>

I cannot install os/2 on my new system.  I have put the new ibm1506
drivers on the boot disk but get sys errors when trying to boot.

Is there a workaround for this or do I need a special driver???

pat@iquest.net

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From: os2pat@my-deja.com                                19-Dec-99 18:57:18
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 16:35:02
Subj: Re: Internal LS-120 as B-Drive fails to work

From: os2pat@my-deja.com

I have a new system also with a LS-120 as the only floppy device and
keep getting sys errors when trying to install os/2.  How did you get
the system to recognize the disks.

I have floppy search and floppy present disabled in bios.

pat

In article <shi54.5818$TT4.344780@news1.rdc2.on.home.com>,
  "Gary Joseph" <gjoseph2@home.com> wrote:
> Same product different question.  Have been trying to get OS/2 to
install
> from an LS-120 as the only floppy type device in the system.  Get
through
> startup disks, then get message saying system can't operate hard /
removable
> disks.  Have tried latest NEWDASD download.  Any ideas?
>
> Gary
>
> Billy Ko <billko@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>
news:ovyyxbcbfgbssvprjbeyqargnggarg.flzths0.pminews@netnews.worldnet.att
.net
> ...
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 00:54:10 -0500, J. Ken Zur wrote:
> >
> > :>    Hi! I am running Warp 4. During my original install, for some
reason
> > :>the system ended up with an A and B floppy drive. Well my B is
really
> > :>the LS-120 and after adding the support for large/removable drives
the
> > :>LS-120 still doesn't work as a 120mg floppy. Attempts to Format
"B"
> > :>suggest a max size of 2.88mg.
> >
> > I used to have the same exact problem.  The latest IDEDASD fixes
that, I
> > believe.
> >
> > Bill
> > Team OS/2
> >
> > -----
> >
> > OS/2 - If you want "productivity" to be more than a few
> > four-letter words.
> >
> >
> >
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: popeye-2@xoommail.com                             19-Dec-99 11:25:14
  To: All                                               19-Dec-99 19:57:00
Subj: Re: zip

From: Paul Hildebrandt <popeye-2@xoommail.com>

I managed to fix the zip problem. I browsed an old copy of my config.sys and
found out my atapi driver wasn't loaded. I'll try the newer ide drivers
today.

Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 20:34:48 -0500, Paul Hildebrandt wrote:
>
> ->Having problems detecting my zip drive. Here's my setup:
> ->
> ->Warp 4 on a Pentium 166 w/ mmx
> ->
> ->IDE controller 1 has a 2 gig HDD as primary and the zip as a slave
> ->IDE controller 2 has a 500meg HDD as primary and a cdrom as slave
> ->
> ->If I partition the 500 meg drive so OS2 can see it I lose my zip drive.
> ->I also noticed that I can't format the 500 meg HDD. I keep getting this
> ->error:
> ->
> ->SYS1274: The size of the requested partition exceeds 2,048MB or is
> ->beyond cylinder 1023 of your disk.
>
> For this part of the problem you need newer IDE drivers than shipped with
> Warp 4. The originals contained a bug that meant that drives attached to
> the secondary controller were not detected as LBA capable. Upgrading to
> the latest version of IBM1S506.ADD from
> ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe may
> well fix the first problem too.
>
> Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net                19-Dec-99 22:16:29
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 01:25:19
Subj: Re: LS120 "a" drive

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net

In <385D22E0.7E338D9B@iquest.net>, on 12/19/99 
   at 01:24 PM, Pat Shanahan <pat@iquest.net> said:

>I cannot install os/2 on my new system.  I have put the new ibm1506
>drivers on the boot disk but get sys errors when trying to boot.

>Is there a workaround for this or do I need a special driver???

The work around is to buy a floppy drive for your system.  IBM did a
pathetic job of supporting the LS-120 under OS/2 Warp.  On machines where
PC-DOS has no trouble at all using the drive via the native BIOS interface
on your notebook.

Roland

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From: Peter.Druck@tp2.ruhr-uni-bochum.de                20-Dec-99 11:14:27
  To: merlins@attglobal.net, Trevor-Hem..               20-Dec-99 10:21:11
Subj: Re: Bootmanager and 9GB SCSI-Disk

To: merlins@attglobal.net, Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com
From: Peter Druck <Peter.Druck@tp2.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Trevor, Meinolf,
my ingrediences are an Adaptec 2930U2 SCSI-Controller with an
IBM DNES 9.1 Gig LVD HD. Today I've tried to use the logical
volume manager from WARP 4.5. It comes up with the aic78u2.sys
but might ignore the driver because it doesn't load the os2cdrom.dmd
(so I can't access the CDROM).
When I'm using LINUX fdisk (after I've made the partitions with LVM)
it shows me the missing 720 MB and I can use them. When I restart
LVM it gives the message that the partition table might be corrupt.

Peter

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From: jrop@verso.st.jyu.fi                              20-Dec-99 11:14:22
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 10:21:11
Subj: Re: Installing NT with OS/2

From: Janne Ropponen <jrop@verso.st.jyu.fi>

William,

Thanks for the tips, but unfortunately I have just spent a sleepless
weekend trying to get the damn NT to install - without luck. Here's
the _short_ version of what happened:

First I tried to install NT to the (empty) 9 GB disk just the way I 
figured it would work and following your instructions. The problem
was that NT simply wouldn't even boot to the GUI install phase no
matter where the NT partition was on the disk, how big it was or
whether there where were anything else on the disk with it. It
always crashed when booting after the first three install diskettes
with "boot record not found" or "ntoskrnl.exe not found" depending
on whether the NT partition was extended or primary (respectively).
I did update the NT install diskettes with M$'s latest disk
drivers and modified the BOOT.INI by hand, but it just wouldn't
boot. I could see the the NT install partition just fine when I 
booted from OS/2 utility disks (all the files were there), but NT
wouldn't. Great Microsoft, great.

Ok, after dozens of times restarting my computer I decided to
try to install NT on the 6.5 GB disk. And it worked. NT installed
just fine, booted just fine, but it won't boot after I install
and active OS/2's Boot Manager. I always get a 

"STOP: c000021a (Fatal  System Error), Session manager 
initialisation process terminated unexpectedly with a status 
of 0x000003a"

error message after NT starts it's the boot process. No matter 
where the Boot Manager is on the disk, whether it is present 
during NT's install process or whether there are other partitions 
on the disk during NT's install. As long as I don't mark the 
Boot Manager partition active, NT will boot, but of course OS/2
and BeOS won't. After marking it active, OS/2, BeOS (and DOS) will
boot, but NT won't. AAaaarrghhh!!

So, this is the short version of what happened. I realize this
is probable a little off-topic, because discussing the NT
installation process is not exactly this group's topic, but
any help would again be appreciated. Everything else works fine
except NT.

What was I thinking anyway trying to install some "Not Today"
software on my computer, when my OS/2 works glitchlessly? :|


 - Janne


William L. Hartzell <wlhartzell@home.com> wrote:
> Dear Janne:
> Yes, the 1024 cylinder limit still exist.  Make a data partition out of the
> cylinders over 1023.  Do the partitioning with OS/2's fdisk.exe.  Install NT
> before you format any partition (except NT's) or install Boot Manager. 
After
> installing NT use OS/2's Fdisk.exe to install Boot Manager.  Xcopy the
> systems as you described.  Be sure before you start that your Warp 4.0 has
> Device Driver 01 installed and that your utilities disks were made after you
> install that fixpack.  Let us know how it went.  P.S.  No disk in the
process
> can be slave.

> Janne Ropponen wrote:

>> Ok. I am going to do the following:
>>  1) Copy all the data on the 9 GB disk to the 20 GB disk
>>  2) Repartition the 9 GB disk so that everything else is like on the
>>     old 6.5 GB disk, but a new 2.5 GB partition for NT is between
>>     the BeOS and 1.5 GB HPFS partition
>>  3) Copy all the data from the 6.5 GB disk to the right
>>     partitions on the 20 GB disk (xcopying OS/2 from one drive
>>     to another is a thing I've done many times before, has
>>     worked every time)
>>  4) Install BeOS again
>>  5) Install NT
>>  6) Configure the Boot Manager to boot to DOS/BeOS/NT and OS/2.
>>  7) Run my system happily everafter?
>>
>> What I see as potential problems are:
>>  a) The OS/2 boot partition on the 9.1 GB disk will (partly) go
>>     over the 1024 cylinder "limit". Is this a problem anymore?
>>  b) NT might not like to install after everything else (although
>>     that would be very stupid, as every other OS will install where
>>     I want it to and when I want it to.
>>
>>  - Janne (jrop@st.jyu.fi)

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From: jrop@verso.st.jyu.fi                              20-Dec-99 11:23:14
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 10:21:11
Subj: Re: Installing NT with OS/2

From: Janne Ropponen <jrop@verso.st.jyu.fi>

Hello Damir,

Damir Laurenzi <damir@g11.net> wrote:
> hi

> Janne Ropponen wrote:
>> Primary Master (6.5 GB):
>>  -   boot manager
>>  -c: 1 GB FAT (DOS boot)
>>  -d: 2 GB FAT
>>  -   2 GB BeOS
>>  -e: 1.5 GB HPFS (OS/2 boot)
>> Secondary Master (9 GB):
>>  -f: 9 GB HPFS (data)
>> Primary Slave (ZIP-100) g:
>> Secondary Slave (CD-ROM) h:
>> SCSI: (CD-R/W) i:

> what are primary an logical?

C: is primary, everything else is logical.

>> Will this work?.........

> bad news.
> os2 "see" ntfs and assign a disk letter to that partition. if you want
> to maintain your actual assignment of letter you must create the ntfs
> partition after the one of os2. nt don't access hpfs partition.

Yes, I noticed that AFTER installng and NTFS partition. :)
I figured I'll just make the NT partition primary, so OS/2 won't
see it (the DOS partition will be active under OS/2). Anyway,
there were some other problems installing NT (just see my last
post).

AFAIK, there is a way to make the NT3.51 HPFS support work under
NT4 also.

> you can use the extra space for data

Well, there's the problem that the drive letter would go before
my second disk's big partition (all are logical) and that is
unacceptable for me... Well, it is just a few hundred MBs anyway.

Is there an util for OS/2 to shuffle the drive letters around
no matter where they "physically" are? So that it would work
even during the boot process?


 - Janne

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From: sidbury@cs.uofs.edu                               20-Dec-99 08:14:21
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 11:19:26
Subj: New Install Question

From: Dick Sidbury <sidbury@cs.uofs.edu>

Can warp be installed on a disk that is not on the primary controller?
In the past when I tried to install it on a previous computer the 
set up was too stupid to recognize any disk not on the primary 
controller as useable for a boot partition.

Secondly, I assume that BootManager is still necessary if I'm
going to put Warp4 in it's own logical drive.

-- 
Dick Sidbury				Phone: (570) 941-6109
Department of Computing Sciences	Fax: (570) 941-4250
University of Scranton			e-mail: sidbury@cs.uofs.edu
Scranton, PA 18510-4664			http://www.cs.uofs.edu/~sidbury

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From: gsf@ibm.net                                       20-Dec-99 15:20:07
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 14:31:23
Subj: Install OS/2 on PCI/MCA machine using on-board IDE

From: Gilbert Saint-flour <gsf@ibm.net>

Hello:

I was having problems installing OS/2 in an IBM PC 750 PCI/MCA system
(6886-4CH) a few weeks ago.  Several people made suggestions, but Aron
Eisenpress is the one who gave me the solution: I needed to get the
IBM2IDE driver from
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/ibm2ide.exe and add
BASEDEV=IBM2IDE.ADD to the Install Disk 1.  Thanks again to Aron.

A few comments, for the poor souls going through the same kind of trouble
in the future:

1. the problem had nothing to do with the level of OS/2; I tried Warp 3,
Connect and Warp 4 using the original and the latest Install Disk 1 with
no success: IBM2IDE.ADD wasn't on any of them.

2. As far as OS/2 is concerned, 6886-4CH is a Micro Channel (MCA) machine;
consequently, IBM1xxxx drivers are simply ignored.  This explains why the
/V switch on IBM1S506 produced no messages.

3. make sure IBM2IDE goes before IBM2ADSK in CONFIG.SYS, or, better yet,
REM the IBM2ADSK line.

4. IBM2IDE comes with a README file which gives good hints but does not
explain the syntax of the option switches.  From looking at the
executable, it seems that IBM2IDE takes the same options as IBM2S506 -
specifying /V is recommended.

5. So far, I've only tried to connect the hard-disk and CD-ROM to the
on-board EIDE controller of the PC 750.  I just bought a PCI IDE card and
plan to test with it when I receive it (hopefully, that'll give me more
flexibility in installing large disks).

6.  6886-4CH was originally a SCSI machine; when I bought it, the SCSI
controller and HD had been removed.  I chose to go with IDE because I
already had an IDE CD-ROM drive and hard disk I could use. Had I known
from the start how much time I would spend to get IDE to work, I may very
well have spent the money and gone SCSI.

7. These remarks also apply to the PCI/MCA IBM PC 730 (6876-xxx) which
uses the same mother-board as the 750.

 Gilbert Saint-flour

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     20-Dec-99 19:46:08
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: Re: Bootmanager and 9GB SCSI-Disk

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:14:55 +0100, Peter Druck wrote:

->Trevor, Meinolf,
->my ingrediences are an Adaptec 2930U2 SCSI-Controller with an
->IBM DNES 9.1 Gig LVD HD. Today I've tried to use the logical
->volume manager from WARP 4.5. It comes up with the aic78u2.sys
->but might ignore the driver because it doesn't load the os2cdrom.dmd
->(so I can't access the CDROM).

Time to add /V to the basedev line and see what it is doing then.

Hmmm, 2930U2 may not be a supported controller under OS/2. 2940U2W is but
2930U2?


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     20-Dec-99 19:51:04
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: Re: New Install Question

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:14:43 -0500, Dick Sidbury wrote:

->Can warp be installed on a disk that is not on the primary controller?
->In the past when I tried to install it on a previous computer the 
->set up was too stupid to recognize any disk not on the primary 
->controller as useable for a boot partition.

Yes but it depends on the *BIOS* of the machine supporting INT 13 access
to the disks on that controller. BM is required for the install to any
drive other than C:.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: brittonm@sympatico.ca                             20-Dec-99 19:23:10
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 16:56:01
Subj: Acer CRW6206A Adaptec DirectCD

From: Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca>

To one and all,

I have installed an Acer CDRW 6206A and it works fine as a CD reader,
simple enough install
under OS2. I use SCSI HDD and CDROM, and want ot use the Writer to
create backups etc.

The Adaptec DirectCD software works fine under Windoze 95, aside from
the usual problems,
but I have no wish to reboot into Windoze when I use the writer. Adaptec
do not support OS2,
so I do not support Adaptec, I use Symbios hardware which is superbly
made, supported and priced. (sorry for the ad, but if its good product
it has earned the mention)

1) I am playing with Odin to see if I can get the software to function
under WinOS2, has anyone
had experience with this

2) has anyone tried using another approach to the problem, ie other
software/drivers under WinOS2 or native OS2

Look forward to comments/suggestions

Britt

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From: boris.shor@columbia.edu                           20-Dec-99 18:06:27
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 20:46:00
Subj: Messed up partition table

From: Boris Shor <boris.shor@columbia.edu>

Hello,

Recently I did something foolish and the partition tables on my main
hard drive (a 8.4 GB Maxtor) got scrambled. I was using a boot-manager
setup with OS/2 Warp 4 and Win 95. I was able to resurrect the FAT
partitions entirely (not a file lost) with Norton Disk Doctor in
Windows, but NDD did not detect the HPFS partitions I had. Is there some
way I can get back my HPFS partitions, perhaps in a software solution
similar to Disk Doctor?

Boris


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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net                20-Dec-99 18:46:23
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 20:46:01
Subj: Re: Messed up partition table

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net

In <385EB689.C340E2FB@columbia.edu>, on 12/20/99 
   at 06:06 PM, Boris Shor <boris.shor@columbia.edu> said:

>Hello,

>Recently I did something foolish and the partition tables on my main hard
>drive (a 8.4 GB Maxtor) got scrambled. I was using a boot-manager setup
>with OS/2 Warp 4 and Win 95. I was able to resurrect the FAT partitions
>entirely (not a file lost) with Norton Disk Doctor in Windows, but NDD
>did not detect the HPFS partitions I had. Is there some way I can get
>back my HPFS partitions, perhaps in a software solution similar to Disk
>Doctor?

>Boris

You can try several things.  I assume you either don't have utility
floppies or you were unsuccessful with FDISK from the utility floppies.

Partition Magic from a DOS boot floppy would be my next choice.  I keep
one of those floppies made up just in case something happens.

Roland


-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net              To Respond delete
".illegaltospam"
                            MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.52
                            For a Microsoft free univers
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 21-Dec-99 01:18:27
  To: All                                               20-Dec-99 20:46:01
Subj: Re: LS120 "a" drive

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Pat Shanahan wrote:
> 
> I cannot install os/2 on my new system.  I have put the new ibm1506
> drivers on the boot disk but get sys errors when trying to boot.
> 
> Is there a workaround for this or do I need a special driver???

Apparently there is no XDFloppy support for LS-120 in the
ibm1506!

I installed an old fashioned floppy-drive and booted from it!

(There was no problem when installeing Aurora though)

> pat@iquest.net

-- 
Live long and prosper...

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From: boris.shor@columbia.edu                           20-Dec-99 22:51:03
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 03:29:04
Subj: Re: Messed up partition table

From: Boris Shor <boris.shor@columbia.edu>


yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net wrote:

> In <385EB689.C340E2FB@columbia.edu>, on 12/20/99
>    at 06:06 PM, Boris Shor <boris.shor@columbia.edu> said:
>
> >Hello,
>
> >Recently I did something foolish and the partition tables on my main hard
> >drive (a 8.4 GB Maxtor) got scrambled. I was using a boot-manager setup
> >with OS/2 Warp 4 and Win 95. I was able to resurrect the FAT partitions
> >entirely (not a file lost) with Norton Disk Doctor in Windows, but NDD
> >did not detect the HPFS partitions I had. Is there some way I can get
> >back my HPFS partitions, perhaps in a software solution similar to Disk
> >Doctor?
>
> >Boris
>
> You can try several things.  I assume you either don't have utility
> floppies or you were unsuccessful with FDISK from the utility floppies.
>
> Partition Magic from a DOS boot floppy would be my next choice.  I keep
> one of those floppies made up just in case something happens.
>
> Roland
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net              To Respond delete
".illegaltospam"
>                             MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.52
>                             For a Microsoft free univers
> -----------------------------------------------------------

Roland,

FDISK reports the space as free, as does Partition Magic, from a floppy.

Boris

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From: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygon...               20-Dec-99 23:27:29
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 03:29:04
Subj: Re: Messed up partition table

Message sender: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net

From: "Mike Ruskai" <retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net>

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:06:54 -0500, Boris Shor wrote:

>Hello,
>
>Recently I did something foolish and the partition tables on my main
>hard drive (a 8.4 GB Maxtor) got scrambled. I was using a boot-manager
>setup with OS/2 Warp 4 and Win 95. I was able to resurrect the FAT
>partitions entirely (not a file lost) with Norton Disk Doctor in
>Windows, but NDD did not detect the HPFS partitions I had. Is there some
>way I can get back my HPFS partitions, perhaps in a software solution
>similar to Disk Doctor?

I'm not aware of any quick-fix utility for that purpose.  It is, however,
possible to adjust the partition table so that the HPFS partition is
defined once again.

You'll need a sector editor, of course.

From there, what you need to do depends on what kind of partition it is.


--
 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.


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From: brittonm@sympatico.ca                             21-Dec-99 03:16:10
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 03:29:04
Subj: Acer CRW6206A Adaptec DirectCD

From: Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca>

To one and all,

I have installed an Acer CDRW 6206A and it works fine as a CD reader,
simple enough install
under OS2. I use SCSI HDD and CDROM, and want ot use the Writer to
create backups etc.

The Adaptec DirectCD software works fine under Windoze 95, aside from
the usual problems,
but I have no wish to reboot into Windoze when I use the writer. Adaptec
do not support OS2,
so I do not support Adaptec, I use Symbios hardware which is superbly
made, supported and priced. (sorry for the ad, but if its good product
it has earned the mention)

1) I am playing with Odin to see if I can get the software to function
under WinOS2, has anyone
had experience with this

2) has anyone tried using another approach to the problem, ie other
software/drivers under WinOS2 or native OS2

Look forward to comments/suggestions

Britt

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From: whonea@codenet.net                                20-Dec-99 23:51:25
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 03:29:04
Subj: Re: Messed up partition table

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:46:46, yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net 
wrote:

> In <385EB689.C340E2FB@columbia.edu>, on 12/20/99 
>    at 06:06 PM, Boris Shor <boris.shor@columbia.edu> said:
> 
> >Hello,
> 
> >Recently I did something foolish and the partition tables on my main hard
> >drive (a 8.4 GB Maxtor) got scrambled. I was using a boot-manager setup
> >with OS/2 Warp 4 and Win 95. I was able to resurrect the FAT partitions
> >entirely (not a file lost) with Norton Disk Doctor in Windows, but NDD
> >did not detect the HPFS partitions I had. Is there some way I can get
> >back my HPFS partitions, perhaps in a software solution similar to Disk
> >Doctor?
> 
> >Boris
> 
> You can try several things.  I assume you either don't have utility
> floppies or you were unsuccessful with FDISK from the utility floppies.
> 
> Partition Magic from a DOS boot floppy would be my next choice.  I keep
> one of those floppies made up just in case something happens.

DFSEE (freeware, on Hobbes) can do a lot to restore a partition table 
as can OS2CLU (same place) if it's not too far gone.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: sander@fransen.com                                21-Dec-99 12:39:07
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 10:47:03
Subj: Re: Install OS/2 on PCI/MCA machine using on-board IDE

From: "zz" <sander@fransen.com>

I know nothing of OS/2, but as I mentioned somewhere earlier, I DO pretend
to have THE site about the PC730/750, so I included your post on my website.
http://sander.fransen.com home of the 730/750.

If you have more factoids, tidbits about OS/2 on a PC730, please mail me...

Sander
"Gilbert Saint-flour" <gsf@ibm.net> wrote in message
news:385e492d$1$tfs$mr2ice@news...
> Hello:
>
> I was having problems installing OS/2 in an IBM PC 750 PCI/MCA system
> (6886-4CH) a few weeks ago.  Several people made suggestions, but Aron
> Eisenpress is the one who gave me the solution: I needed to get the
> IBM2IDE driver from
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/ibm2ide.exe and add
> BASEDEV=IBM2IDE.ADD to the Install Disk 1.  Thanks again to Aron.
>
> A few comments, for the poor souls going through the same kind of trouble
> in the future:
>
> 1. the problem had nothing to do with the level of OS/2; I tried Warp 3,
> Connect and Warp 4 using the original and the latest Install Disk 1 with
> no success: IBM2IDE.ADD wasn't on any of them.
>
> 2. As far as OS/2 is concerned, 6886-4CH is a Micro Channel (MCA) machine;
> consequently, IBM1xxxx drivers are simply ignored.  This explains why the
> /V switch on IBM1S506 produced no messages.
>
> 3. make sure IBM2IDE goes before IBM2ADSK in CONFIG.SYS, or, better yet,
> REM the IBM2ADSK line.
>
> 4. IBM2IDE comes with a README file which gives good hints but does not
> explain the syntax of the option switches.  From looking at the
> executable, it seems that IBM2IDE takes the same options as IBM2S506 -
> specifying /V is recommended.
>
> 5. So far, I've only tried to connect the hard-disk and CD-ROM to the
> on-board EIDE controller of the PC 750.  I just bought a PCI IDE card and
> plan to test with it when I receive it (hopefully, that'll give me more
> flexibility in installing large disks).
>
> 6.  6886-4CH was originally a SCSI machine; when I bought it, the SCSI
> controller and HD had been removed.  I chose to go with IDE because I
> already had an IDE CD-ROM drive and hard disk I could use. Had I known
> from the start how much time I would spend to get IDE to work, I may very
> well have spent the money and gone SCSI.
>
> 7. These remarks also apply to the PCI/MCA IBM PC 730 (6876-xxx) which
> uses the same mother-board as the 750.
>
>  Gilbert Saint-flour
>


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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 21-Dec-99 18:25:20
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 20:31:00
Subj: Problem with FAT32

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Hi there!

Iv'e got this crazy idea that it should be possible to put my
documents on a neutral partition, and from there be able to work
on them from OS/2, Windows and Linux. 
I've tried using VFAT...but for some reason it does not work
properly. The driver (0.05) is most of the time unable to read
the long VFAT-names, though it worked properly for a couple of
days in the beginning...I've heard that its cousin, the FAT32
driver should work pretty well!
But DOS insists on the shared-partition being a network drive,
and therefore I am unable to format or convert the partition to
FAT32 and the DOS FDISK is unable to delete and recreate.

The storage layout was created using LVM (Warp 4.5) and look this
way:

(Disk1)
1: FAT16 (VFAT) Win98+Winapps
2: HPFS (Warp4+FP12)
3: HPFS (OS/2, Java, Win16 Applications)
4: FAT16 (VFAT) (Document-folder+other shared stuff)

(Disk2)
5: HPFS (Warp 4.5)
6: JFS
7: Ext2 (SuSE Linux 5.3)

The problem must originate from the LVM partitioning.....but is
there a way for me to be able to format the Shared partition
(partition 4), without being forced to repartition the entire
system with OS/2 FDISK!

Thanks in advance..

-- 

Live long and prosper...

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          21-Dec-99 13:42:29
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 20:31:00
Subj: Re: Messed up partition table

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 03:51:07, Boris Shor <boris.shor@columbia.edu> 
wrote:

> 
> 
> yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net wrote:
> 
> > In <385EB689.C340E2FB@columbia.edu>, on 12/20/99
> >    at 06:06 PM, Boris Shor <boris.shor@columbia.edu> said:
> >
> > >Hello,
> >
> > >Recently I did something foolish and the partition tables on my main hard
> > >drive (a 8.4 GB Maxtor) got scrambled. I was using a boot-manager setup
> > >with OS/2 Warp 4 and Win 95. I was able to resurrect the FAT partitions
> > >entirely (not a file lost) with Norton Disk Doctor in Windows, but NDD
> > >did not detect the HPFS partitions I had. Is there some way I can get
> > >back my HPFS partitions, perhaps in a software solution similar to Disk
> > >Doctor?
> >
> >
> > You can try several things.  I assume you either don't have utility
> > floppies or you were unsuccessful with FDISK from the utility floppies.
> >
> > Partition Magic from a DOS boot floppy would be my next choice.  I keep
> > one of those floppies made up just in case something happens.
> >
> 
> FDISK reports the space as free, as does Partition Magic, from a floppy.

You must be extremely careful when operating on large IDE hard drives 
from different boot systems. DOS generally uses the geometry reported 
by the BIOS, while OS/2 uses the geometry reported by IBM1S506.ADD. 
That driver has had several build levels that report large drives 
differently, and this can lead to serious problems. 

The OS/2 solution is to make sure that *every* system you are booting 
into has the same, identical, build of IBM1S506.ADD, preferably the 
latest. If you have a partition that was FDISKed or modified with 
PQmagic under an earlier build, then you'd better save off an archive 
of the data on that drive so that you can restore it if things get 
boogered.

Same holds true if you've been using some of the DANI driver builds, I
think.

And sometimes you can recover from a problem by booting back into a 
system that uses the build that was used to FDISK or modify the 
partition before. Sometimes.

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: alex@nukunuku.queensu.ca                          21-Dec-99 22:54:29
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Re: LS120 "a" drive

From: alex@nukunuku.queensu.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:24:32 -0500, Pat Shanahan <pat@iquest.net> wrote:
>I cannot install os/2 on my new system.  I have put the new ibm1506
>drivers on the boot disk but get sys errors when trying to boot.
>
>Is there a workaround for this or do I need a special driver???

Download the latest IDEDASD.EXE from IBM and follow the instructions to
upgrade your OS/2 Diskette 1.  Make sure you copy the new IBMATAPI.FLT to
the disk, and add BASEDEV=IBMATAPI.FLT to CONFIG.SYS on the disk.

The order of the BASEDEV statements in CONFIG.SYS is important, I
believe.  I think the IBMATAPI.FLT statement has to come after the
IBM1S506.ADD line, but I could be wrong.  You may have to experiment.

If this doesn't work, try disabling busmastering on the IDE channel (I had
to do this to get mine to work).  For example, if the LS-120 is on the
secondary IDE channel, modify the IBM1S506.ADD line in CONFIG.SYS to read:
    BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /A:1 /!BM
(Use /A:0 for the primary IDE channel.)

Disclaimer: my LS-120 is the only IDE device in an otherwise SCSI system; I
can't predict how your setup may differ.

HTH...
-- 
Alex Taylor
alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca

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From: Rolf.Breuning@t-online.de                         22-Dec-99 01:08:05
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Q1: mixed audio / digital CD   Q2: Rockridge extensions

From: Rolf Breuning <Rolf.Breuning@t-online.de>

Hello,

I've got a CD which I can't read on my OS/2 Warp4 (US), FP12 system.
It is anounced as a mixed Audio / Digital CD which I think might be the
problem.
It has been created on a WinNT machine

Is there any possiblility to read such a CD using OS/2?
Do I have to adjust some settings ?

A second question:
From time to time I would need to access CDROMs created for Solaris
machines using
ISO 9660 and the Rockridge extension. These CDs don't work on my
computer right now.

Thanks for any hints

 Rolf



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From: u.billeb@jakebox.sax.east.de                      20-Dec-99 20:07:08
  To: All                                               21-Dec-99 21:33:20
Subj: Re: Need adapter for PMCIA Type II

From: u.billeb@jakebox.sax.east.de (Ulf Billeb)

Hi,

> I need to connect a FlashCard to my Warp 4.0 system. The FlashCard 

Take a look at:

http://www.actiontec.com  they have PC-Card Readers for OS/2
http://www.sandisk.com they have compact flash cards adapters etc.

Bye, Ulf.

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From: simon@syd.comcen.com.au                           22-Dec-99 13:18:26
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: IDE Orb Problems

From: "Simon Vrdoljak" <simon@syd.comcen.com.au>

I'm having an unusual problem with IDE orb drives. I'm running Warp4 FP12.

I boot with a cartridge in the drive and I can access it fine. After
ejecting the cartridge with eject.exe and re-inserting it I can't access it
anymore. Drive not responding is error I get. I've tried using the
danis506.add / daniadsk.flt replacements for ibm1s506.add / ibmatapi.flt
with no change.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Simon


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From: falko.tesch@bigfoot.com                           22-Dec-99 10:03:18
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 10:31:07
Subj: USP ZIP-100 is soooo slow!

From: Falko Tesch <falko.tesch@bigfoot.com>

Hi,

Just baought a iomega USB ZIP-100. Works fine with the drivers from 
the DeviceDriver site from IBM.
But there seems to be a catch :o(
Data transfer to/from the ZIP is extremly slow (takes about 30-35 min. 
to copy 100MB!)
Anyone an idea how to speed this up?
And anyone an idea how to use HPFS on those ZIP disks?
So far I con only use FAT.

TIA.

CU/2
Falko



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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    22-Dec-99 12:13:28
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 10:31:08
Subj: Re: USP ZIP-100 is soooo slow!

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <19991222.10033609@ft.stardiv.de>,
Falko Tesch <falko.tesch@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Just baought a iomega USB ZIP-100. Works fine with the drivers from
>the DeviceDriver site from IBM.
>But there seems to be a catch :o(
>Data transfer to/from the ZIP is extremly slow (takes about 30-35 min. >
>to copy 100MB!)
>Anyone an idea how to speed this up?
>And anyone an idea how to use HPFS on those ZIP disks?
>So far I con only use FAT.

Using IDE and SCSI drives, you would FDISK the disk to create a
primary partition. Not sure if this works with the USB models.
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From: Peter.Druck@tp2.ruhr-uni-bochum.de                22-Dec-99 16:35:13
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 15:50:24
Subj: Re: Bootmanager and 9GB SCSI-Disk

From: Peter Druck <Peter.Druck@tp2.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Ok,
thanks for your help (Trevor and Meinolf) but today I've got
an E-Mail from Adaptec which says that the AHA2930 controller
neither is nor will be supported by OS2. Is should buy either
a different adapter or run a different OS - DOS/WIN-xx is
supported. It reminds me of OS2-2.x where I brought the 
hardware acording to the OS.
Well, thanks anyway

Peter

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From: brittonm@sympatico.ca                             22-Dec-99 22:15:29
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 18:59:26
Subj: Re: Acer CRW6206A Adaptec DirectCD

From: Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca>

Progress Report

Configuration

OS2 4.0 & FP12
64M Ram
SCSI HDD 1    C E
SCSI HDD 2    D F G
SCSI CDROM H

ACER attached to EIDE CNTRLR 0 as MASTER, PIO 4 (have tried PIO 0)
BusMastering OFF
AMI BIOS

1) vanilla OS2 install mounts the ACER as I:, and reads fine, (OS2 install
completed from this
    drive)

2) Installed RSJ with no parameter changes, and experienced TRAP error on
boot.

3) downloaded danis506 driver, and installed. BTW excellent docs/program
    System booted fine.
    danis506 reported evrything optimum.
    RSJ reported ACER as WORM, when -i"ATAPI" added to lockcdr.flt. If this is
not added then
            the ACER is identified but ignored.
    Boot completed succesfully
    OS2 does not list drive (as to be expected)
    CD Writer control reports "Cannot find device specified"

I am now at a loss as to how to proceed. There are not error messages, and
everything appears
to be in order.

Suggestions would be welcome

Regards
Britt


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From: chris@scotgate2.demon.co.uk                       22-Dec-99 21:51:14
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 18:59:26
Subj: SCSI spindown?

From: chris@scotgate2.demon.co.uk (Chris H Lindley)

Hi all,

having just upgraded to an all SCSI setup, I'm troubled
by noise!!!!

The two drives are IBM 18ES 9.1gig LVD and a Seagate/IBM 
XP32150WD non-LVD drive on a non-LVD Tekram 390f.

How do I get the SCSI drives to spindown?

The APM seem to have no affects at all.

Using Warp4 + fp12 on  a MII 300, Aopen ax59pro 128meg
RAM and a Mill II


Cheers
Chris


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From: nets202c@netins.net                               22-Dec-99 16:28:14
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 18:59:26
Subj: Re: Installing NT with OS/2

From: WJ Cordts <nets202c@netins.net>

Janne Ropponen wrote:
> 
> William,
> 
> Thanks for the tips, but unfortunately I have just spent a sleepless
> weekend trying to get the damn NT to install - without luck. 
a lot of cut stuff.
> "STOP: c000021a (Fatal  System Error), Session manager
> initialisation process terminated unexpectedly with a status
> of 0x000003a"
> 
> error message after NT starts it's the boot process. No matter
> where the Boot Manager is on the disk, whether it is present
> during NT's install process or whether there are other partitions
> on the disk during NT's install. As long as I don't mark the
> Boot Manager partition active, NT will boot, but of course OS/2
> and BeOS won't. After marking it active, OS/2, BeOS (and DOS) will
> boot, but NT won't. AAaaarrghhh!!
> 
> So, this is the short version of what happened. I realize this
> is probable a little off-topic, because discussing the NT
> installation process is not exactly this group's topic, but
> any help would again be appreciated. Everything else works fine
> except NT.
> 
> What was I thinking anyway trying to install some "Not Today"
> software on my computer, when my OS/2 works glitchlessly? :|
> 
>  - Janne
Here is what I did.  I wanted to install NT on a primary and OS/2 on a
primary.  Current advice leaned toward installing and configuring the NT
"bastard child" before working with "THE REAL OPERATING SYSTEM" - OS/2. 
The drive was a blank 12+ Gig WD.  NT installed OK on a FAT16 C: drive
after a complaint about cylinder count.  I then OS/2 install disks to
get fdisk to carve up the drive to suit my intentions.  OS/2 then
installed fine on the primary partition home made for it.  Boot manager
was fine.  The mainenance partition in the extended logical partition
was fine. NT thought reported the same ugly death that you reported. 
Recovery disk was laughably useless and a re-install
barfed the drive and of course NT cannot cope with Boot Manager on
install so the whole disk was deep-sixed.  Get out the OS/2 install
disks to get to a command prompt and use fdisk to delete the planet and
try it all again.  After more repitions of this NT install torture (I am
too red-faced to admit how many) I made the following change to the
above proceedure:  I only carved up the first half (about 6 Gb) of the
drive with fdisk.  Boot manager would work, NT would work, Maintenance
Partition (on a sliver just past 6 Gb) would work.  I proceeded to get
OS/2 onto the Internet and to bravely snatch service pack 6 for NT V 4
from microsoft.com.  The borg sleept through my download intrusion with
Netscape 2.02.  About 5 hours later the download was complete and I
placed a copy of the fix-file (it is pretty big) in a directory on "D"
drive.  This is a FAT16 logical partition to share data regardless of
whatever operating system is running.  I did not try to unbundle this
wad of Microsoft patches while running OS/2.  I then booted NT and
unbundled the fix and installed it.  It didnt take too long.  I the
rebooted NT and checked what it thought about the drives.  (I had to
keep changing drive letter assignments the beast had come up with.)  I
then booted OS/2 and carved up the rest of the 6+ GB of disk as various
logical partitions.  I left the last one for NT to partion as NTFS for
its own use.  I then rebooted NT and it now could handle the drive
size.  (I had to fix the drive letter assignments again though)  It
formated that last partition on the drive with NTFS and things have been
fine.  I certainly am thankful that OS/2 is such a strong and patient
BIG BROTHER!!
	I hope this account of my recent hair loss is of some use to you.
		Regards
			Skip Cordts

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    22-Dec-99 15:32:19
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 22:52:22
Subj: Re: Bootmanager and 9GB SCSI-Disk

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:35:27, Peter Druck 
<Peter.Druck@tp2.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:

> thanks for your help (Trevor and Meinolf) but today I've got
> an E-Mail from Adaptec which says that the AHA2930 controller
> neither is nor will be supported by OS2.

I'm being picky here....but surely what they actually mean (but don't 
want to say!) is that the AHA2930 does not support OS/2....not the 
other way round!

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dun...               22-Dec-99 15:42:27
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 22:52:23
Subj: Backup policy (Risk question).

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk>

Hi, I run WSeB and all of a sudden I've realised I have a logical flow
in my backup policy. It is only I looking after the server, thus we
decided to go for an autoloader dat unit to solve the question of who
changes tapes and when.

The idea was that as it takes 7 tapes plus a cleaning cartridge things
will run by themselves.  I run 5 backups in total.  Monday-Thursday
night Differential, and on Friday night a full back up.  On Monday all
tapes get removed and are placed in another building etc, new tapes are
inserted.

FLAW:  Fire or other disaster is the real problem. (Hardware problems do
not apply).
Say on Thursday through fire I loose the machine and all tapes sitting
in the autoloader.  My last good back is Friday and all Differentials
since then are burnt.  Worse if I have the fire on Saturday/Sunday and I
loose a week's work.

Q.  Whether I use an autoloader or not if I run a full backup on  Friday
night the tape stays in the premishes for more days than necessary.
Which day do most people run a full back up.

Q.  I would appreciate any comments you care to make

Many thanks
Charles

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From: spamtrap@cds-inc.com                              22-Dec-99 16:21:13
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 22:52:23
Subj: Re: Backup policy (Risk question).

From: spamtrap@cds-inc.com (Brad Benson)

Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk>
wrote:

 - snip -

] Q.  Whether I use an autoloader or not if I run a full backup on  Friday
] night the tape stays in the premishes for more days than necessary.
] Which day do most people run a full back up.
] 
] Q.  I would appreciate any comments you care to make

It seems to me that most shops do basically what your plan is, except
they run full backups Monday and diff/incr backups Tues-Fri (or
Tues-Sun, if they have activity on Sunday).   Backups are run early
A.M. each day and then taken offsite on Friday.  This minimizes
exposure to fire/theft/earthquake/asteroid/etc. by two days.

Cheers,

Cheers,

Brad
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From: Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net                 22-Dec-99 19:07:07
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 22:52:23
Subj: Re: USP ZIP-100 is soooo slow!

From: "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net>

It works for you?!?!?

I couldn't get the drivers to work.  Got all sorts of strange things going
on.  Seemed to *almost* work.
What chipset does your motherboard use?

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:03:36 GMT, Falko Tesch wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Just baought a iomega USB ZIP-100. Works fine with the drivers from 
>the DeviceDriver site from IBM.
>But there seems to be a catch :o(
>Data transfer to/from the ZIP is extremly slow (takes about 30-35 min. 
>to copy 100MB!)
>Anyone an idea how to speed this up?
>And anyone an idea how to use HPFS on those ZIP disks?
>So far I con only use FAT.
>
>TIA.
>
>CU/2
>Falko
>
>
>



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From: skhalsa@my-deja.com                               22-Dec-99 17:50:07
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 22:52:23
Subj: Re: Acer CRW6206A Adaptec DirectCD

From: skhalsa@my-deja.com

Isn't this CDRW and IDE/ATAPI interface?  I believe until recently, it
was not possible to write with an IDE CDRW, but that RSJ now supports
ATAPI (but is $$$$).

In article <385EF121.3CC8F1DA@sympatico.ca>,
  Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> To one and all,
>
> I have installed an Acer CDRW 6206A and it works fine as a CD reader,
> simple enough install
> under OS2. I use SCSI HDD and CDROM, and want ot use the Writer to
> create backups etc.
>
> The Adaptec DirectCD software works fine under Windoze 95, aside from
> the usual problems,
> but I have no wish to reboot into Windoze when I use the writer.
Adaptec
> do not support OS2,
> so I do not support Adaptec, I use Symbios hardware which is superbly
> made, supported and priced. (sorry for the ad, but if its good product
> it has earned the mention)
>
> 1) I am playing with Odin to see if I can get the software to function
> under WinOS2, has anyone
> had experience with this
>
> 2) has anyone tried using another approach to the problem, ie other
> software/drivers under WinOS2 or native OS2
>
> Look forward to comments/suggestions
>
> Britt
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: brittonm@sympatico.ca                             22-Dec-99 18:58:28
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 22:52:23
Subj: Re: Acer CRW6206A Adaptec DirectCD

From: Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca>

Yes this is ATAPI, and RSJ supports. I am in the process of setting it up.
On boot RSJ identidies my SCSI CD Reader, and The Acer IDE, but flags them as
"Ignored"
I think the acer is not in the supported drive list, so I am attempting to
resolve this.

Will add results later
Britt

skhalsa@my-deja.com wrote:

> Isn't this CDRW and IDE/ATAPI interface?  I believe until recently, it
> was not possible to write with an IDE CDRW, but that RSJ now supports
> ATAPI (but is $$$$).
>
> In article <385EF121.3CC8F1DA@sympatico.ca>,
>   Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > To one and all,
> >
> > I have installed an Acer CDRW 6206A and it works fine as a CD reader,
> > simple enough install
> > under OS2. I use SCSI HDD and CDROM, and want ot use the Writer to
> > create backups etc.
> >
> > The Adaptec DirectCD software works fine under Windoze 95, aside from
> > the usual problems,
> > but I have no wish to reboot into Windoze when I use the writer.
> Adaptec
> > do not support OS2,
> > so I do not support Adaptec, I use Symbios hardware which is superbly
> > made, supported and priced. (sorry for the ad, but if its good product
> > it has earned the mention)
> >
> > 1) I am playing with Odin to see if I can get the software to function
> > under WinOS2, has anyone
> > had experience with this
> >
> > 2) has anyone tried using another approach to the problem, ie other
> > software/drivers under WinOS2 or native OS2
> >
> > Look forward to comments/suggestions
> >
> > Britt
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: stevem@execpc.com                                 22-Dec-99 21:03:03
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 23:22:13
Subj: Re: SCSI spindown?

From: "Steve McCrystal" <stevem@execpc.com>

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:56:47 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> You should also be aware that I have read that some SCSI
>drives are warranteed only for a certain number of powerdown/up cycles -
>in the case of some of the IBM 10k rpm drives this is something like 180
>spin down/up cycles!

Trevor,
 
Not that I doubt you in the least, but is this 'feature' documented anywhere?

Steve



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From: stevem@execpc.com                                 22-Dec-99 21:07:21
  To: All                                               22-Dec-99 23:22:13
Subj: Re: CD-RW as backup

From: "Steve McCrystal" <stevem@execpc.com>

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 01:58:00 GMT, Martin Racette wrote:

>> There is also a problem with EAs unless the backup program
>> takes care of those.

>Well, BackAgain/2 does handle EA very well actually

Yes, it does.  What about RSJ, which doesn't?

Steve




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From: timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz                          23-Dec-99 07:36:26
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 03:21:22
Subj: Re: CD-RW as backup

From: "Timur Kazimirov" <timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz>

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:07:42 -0600 (CST), Steve McCrystal wrote:

>Yes, it does.  What about RSJ, which doesn't?

ISO file system doesn't support EAs. It's possible to store EAs
by Info-ZIP'ping files first (even with minimal compression to speed up)
and then placing ZIPs onto CD-R(W) using RSJ

With best regards,
Timur Kazimirov

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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net                22-Dec-99 23:55:23
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 03:21:22
Subj: Re: Backup policy (Risk question).

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net

In <3860F17D.484B52A9@dundee.ac.uk>, on 12/22/99 
   at 03:42 PM, Charles Christacopoulos
<c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk> said:

>Hi, I run WSeB and all of a sudden I've realised I have a logical flow in
>my backup policy. It is only I looking after the server, thus we decided
>to go for an autoloader dat unit to solve the question of who changes
>tapes and when.

>The idea was that as it takes 7 tapes plus a cleaning cartridge things
>will run by themselves.  I run 5 backups in total.  Monday-Thursday night
>Differential, and on Friday night a full back up.  On Monday all tapes
>get removed and are placed in another building etc, new tapes are
>inserted.

>FLAW:  Fire or other disaster is the real problem. (Hardware problems do
>not apply).
>Say on Thursday through fire I loose the machine and all tapes sitting in
>the autoloader.  My last good back is Friday and all Differentials since
>then are burnt.  Worse if I have the fire on Saturday/Sunday and I loose
>a week's work.

>Q.  Whether I use an autoloader or not if I run a full backup on  Friday
>night the tape stays in the premishes for more days than necessary. Which
>day do most people run a full back up.

>Q.  I would appreciate any comments you care to make

If you can take the system down time the best solution is a nightly stand
alone backup run at some predetermined time.  You can lessen the downtime
by identifying which drives contain critical files (like the OS and your
database) and back only those up during the standalone.

Sadly, you cannot determine an adequate backup plan for a site without
laying out the disk farm for both performance AND ease of backup. Here is
a thumbnail start:

Drive 0: (critical)
Core OS files, swap files, os scratch files, and user account info (if
applicable)

Drive 1: (low priority)
Inhouse application software and 3rd party software engines.

Drive 2: (critical)
Transaction tables & index files.  Minute by minute/hourly changes here

Drive 3: (low priority)
Reference tables & index files.  (Normally timed interval updates like
weekly, monthly, etc.)  A slight loss of data here isn't the end of the
world.

Split your backup into two backup events for each session.  Stand alone
backup for critical drives daily.  Once system is available again during a
low usage time do an on-line backup of the low priority drives.

Roland
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From: kb7nmu@home.com                                   23-Dec-99 05:31:24
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 03:21:22
Subj: Re: IDE Orb Problems

From: J Christopher Kennedy <kb7nmu@home.com>

In <3861b388_1@nexus.comcen.com.au>, on 12/23/99 
   at 04:15 PM, "Simon Vrdoljak" <simon@syd.comcen.com.au> said:

>My config.sys had diskcache=d,lw. I changed it anyway and the thing worked
>once. Every time since I've tried removing and re-inserting the same disk
>still
>fails the same way. BTW the current cartridge I'm using has had the
>existing partition deleted and a 2gb hpfs logical partition created under
>os2. I'll try
>formatting it as fat again an see how I go.

Hmm...  Can't help you much more then, as my SyQuest SyJet works just fine,
including cartridge swapping all day long.  I also use the danis506
drivers.  Perhaps that could help, as they list a problem with removable
support being corrected for them (or at least my memory says so).

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From: simon@syd.comcen.com.au                           23-Dec-99 16:15:29
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 03:21:22
Subj: Re: IDE Orb Problems

From: "Simon Vrdoljak" <simon@syd.comcen.com.au>

J Christopher Kennedy <kb7nmu@home.com> wrote in message
news:38617416$1$xo7azh$mr2ice@news...
> In <3860387b@nexus.comcen.com.au>, on 12/22/99
>    at 01:18 PM, "Simon Vrdoljak" <simon@syd.comcen.com.au> said:
>
> >I'm having an unusual problem with IDE orb drives. I'm running Warp4
FP12.
>
> >I boot with a cartridge in the drive and I can access it fine. After
> >ejecting the cartridge with eject.exe and re-inserting it I can't access
it
> >anymore. Drive not responding is error I get. I've tried using the
> >danis506.add / daniadsk.flt replacements for ibm1s506.add / ibmatapi.flt
> >with no change.
>
> >Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>
> You removed the FAT file system Cache from you system, didn't you?  You
> must have at minimum the folowing statement in your config.sys file for
> swapping removables to work:
>
> DISKCACHE=64,LW
>
> No diskcache statement, no swapping.  Do not ask why this is needed, only
> know that without it, removable don't work so well, and with it,
everything
> works as advertised.
>
My config.sys had diskcache=d,lw. I changed it anyway and the thing worked
once. Every time since I've tried removing and re-inserting the same disk
still
fails the same way. BTW the current cartridge I'm using has had the existing
partition deleted and a 2gb hpfs logical partition created under os2. I'll
try
formatting it as fat again an see how I go.

Simon


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From: falko.tesch@bigfoot.com                           23-Dec-99 08:51:24
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:28
Subj: Re: USP ZIP-100 is soooo slow!

From: Falko Tesch <falko.tesch@bigfoot.com>

Am 22.12.99, 20:07:14, schrieb "Dave" 
<Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net> zum Thema Re: USP ZIP-100 is soooo 
slow!:

> It works for you?!?!?

> I couldn't get the drivers to work.  Got all sorts of strange things 
going
> on.  Seemed to *almost* work.
> What chipset does your motherboard use?

Hi Dave,

Yep, sort of ;o)
My chipset is a Intel BX from Gigabyte (6BXS). But I do run in 
problems recently:
I can activate the drive but changing the medium leads to a WPS 
lock-up once the driver's icon is double-clicked :o(
It worked before though.
But anyway half an hour for 100MB copying is as slow as the old and 
crappy OAD parallel port driver from iomega.
BTW, I just bought a f...ing iomega product because of the needed 
compatibility :o(((

CU/2
Falko



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From: falko.tesch@bigfoot.com                           23-Dec-99 09:25:05
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:28
Subj: Re: SCSI spindown?

From: Falko Tesch <falko.tesch@bigfoot.com>

Am 23.12.99, 04:03:06, schrieb "Steve McCrystal" <stevem@execpc.com> zum 
Thema Re: SCSI spindown?:


> On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:56:47 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> > You should also be aware that I have read that some SCSI
> >drives are warranteed only for a certain number of powerdown/up 
cycles -
> >in the case of some of the IBM 10k rpm drives this is something like 
180
> >spin down/up cycles!

> Trevor,

> Not that I doubt you in the least, but is this 'feature' documented 
anywhere?

> Steve

Hi,

first of all:
DiskSleeper works fine for, though I have to turn it off (tool in the 
package) when backing up to DAT streamer since sleeping drives won't 
wake up in time and backup will stop with time out error.
There are so-called server harddisks that have a limited on-off cycle 
number but afaik it's not _that_ low (it's about 1000 on-offs)

CU/2
Falko



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From: billko@postoffice.worldnet.att.net                23-Dec-99 08:20:23
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:28
Subj: Re: Internal LS-120 as B-Drive fails to work

From: "Billy Ko" <billko@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:57:37 GMT, os2pat@my-deja.com wrote:

:>I have a new system also with a LS-120 as the only floppy device and
:>keep getting sys errors when trying to install os/2.  How did you get
:>the system to recognize the disks.

I don't believe you can install OS/2 from an LS-120 out-of-the-box.  You
might be able to get away with copying the files from the newest NEWDASD to
the installation disks.  I haven't tried it, though.

The same thing happened when ATAPI CD-ROMs first came out.  OS/2 didn't know
how to handle them.

Bill
Team OS/2

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From: c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dun...               23-Dec-99 14:05:24
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:28
Subj: Re: SCSI spindown?

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk>


Chris H Lindley wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> having just upgraded to an all SCSI setup, I'm troubled
> by noise!!!!
>
> The two drives are IBM 18ES 9.1gig LVD and a Seagate/IBM
> XP32150WD non-LVD drive on a non-LVD Tekram 390f.
>
> How do I get the SCSI drives to spindown?
>
> The APM seem to have no affects at all.

My personnal reaction is (all be it expensive) look about replacing the
noisiest of the drives (in the past I removed a Seagate 1 Gb).  I have
about 15 Scsi drives around me (in 3 pcs) I get more noise from the fans
than anything else.

Arguably you take more life out of a disk when it starts that when it
just spins.

Regards
Charles


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From: skhalsa@my-deja.com                               23-Dec-99 14:00:29
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:28
Subj: Re: Acer CRW6206A Adaptec DirectCD

From: skhalsa@my-deja.com

Try the support page (faq, tech forum, etc.) at RSJ's web site.  I
haven't used it, but I'm gearing up to check out the 30 day emo, so I
read through the support pages.  They may address your problem and
explain why the device ID problems occur.  Also, there is a link to a
review, where the reviewer recalls his installation woes and resolution
(his was a SCSI).

Good luck


In article <38614DB9.F88BEE27@sympatico.ca>,
  Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Progress Report
>
> Configuration
>
> OS2 4.0 & FP12
> 64M Ram
> SCSI HDD 1    C E
> SCSI HDD 2    D F G
> SCSI CDROM H
>
> ACER attached to EIDE CNTRLR 0 as MASTER, PIO 4 (have tried PIO 0)
> BusMastering OFF
> AMI BIOS
>
> 1) vanilla OS2 install mounts the ACER as I:, and reads fine, (OS2
install
> completed from this
>     drive)
>
> 2) Installed RSJ with no parameter changes, and experienced TRAP error
on boot.
>
> 3) downloaded danis506 driver, and installed. BTW excellent
docs/program
>     System booted fine.
>     danis506 reported evrything optimum.
>     RSJ reported ACER as WORM, when -i"ATAPI" added to lockcdr.flt. If
this is
> not added then
>             the ACER is identified but ignored.
>     Boot completed succesfully
>     OS2 does not list drive (as to be expected)
>     CD Writer control reports "Cannot find device specified"
>
> I am now at a loss as to how to proceed. There are not error messages,
and
> everything appears
> to be in order.
>
> Suggestions would be welcome
>
> Regards
> Britt
>
>


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From: skhalsa@my-deja.com                               23-Dec-99 14:36:05
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 14:39:29
Subj: Possible?IDE/SCSI with BootMgr

From: skhalsa@my-deja.com

I am currently running Boot Manager to boot to:
Boot Manager          Primary
Win31                 Primary
Win95                 Primary
OS/2 V3Con Blue Prod  Extended/Logical
OS/2 V3 Red Maint     Extended/Logical

   all on a 8.4GB EIDE

I have a SCSI adapter currently running a Zip drive only.

Would it be possible to add a SCSI hard drive, add Linux, say, and add
that to Boot Manager?  Wouldn't the computer be booting first to the
Boot manager as usual then be directed to the SCSI?

I'm pretty certain that the OS/2 can be installed on a second EIDE drive
if boot manager is on the first.  Doesn't the manual provide such a
scenario in the advanced install chapter?

I have a rather recent Gigabyte Slot 1 MB, Western Digital  EIDE HD,
Buslogic 930 SCSI adapter.


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From: c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dun...               23-Dec-99 17:17:05
  To: All                                               23-Dec-99 15:23:03
Subj: Re: SCSI spindown?

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk>


John Poltorak wrote:

> >My personnal reaction is (all be it expensive) look about replacing the
> >noisiest of the drives
>
> I'm sure Chris will love that suggestion  :-).........
>
> (in the past I removed a Seagate 1 Gb).  I have
> >about 15 Scsi drives around me (in 3 pcs) I get more noise from the fans
> >than anything else.

Ahhh!  There was logic in my madness though 8-() I was out of possible
connectors on the scsi card so something had
to go for something else to come in.

I then thought I have 1 disk (1 whole Gb of it) for when I decide to built my
home 'puter.  I am going round the
bend of sometimes needing a PC at home and then round the bend again 'cause I
do not want one.   In my costs
calculations I have to clearly decide I am not using that hard disk so if I
need a puter I have to buy a hard disk
(I think I will keep debating for a while whether I want a home PC).

Conclusion.  A palm pilot is probably the much better option.  Burns the
excess money and makes me look like a
reborn wizz kid :-)

On a different note, I had (still have 2 of 3) very clunky 2.1 Gb IBM disks. 
One failed, and the other two I can
only trust for material I can afford to loose.  Excessive noise esp. in more
modern, egg. 18Gb disks is not right.

:-)
Charles

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