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From: jkv@vossen.org                                    10-Dec-99 14:36:05
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 05:07:10
Subj: Possible to upgrade ProNews?

From: jkv@vossen.org (Joseph K. Vossen)

I am a registered user for ProNews/2, version 1.0.  I have noticed 
that several people have a more current version than 1.0.  Is it 
possible to obtain a more recent version of ProNews/2 than 1.0?  If 
so, where?  If I obtain a copy, will the registration 'key' for 1.0 
work in a more recent version?  If not, is Panacea still taking $$$ 
for this or does BMT Micro handle this?

thanks

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From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com                           11-Dec-99 14:29:27
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 14:33:26
Subj: Re: Possible to upgrade ProNews?

From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw)

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:36:10, jkv@vossen.org (Joseph K. Vossen) wrote:

> I am a registered user for ProNews/2, version 1.0.  I have noticed 
> that several people have a more current version than 1.0.  Is it 
> possible to obtain a more recent version of ProNews/2 than 1.0?  If 
> so, where?  If I obtain a copy, will the registration 'key' for 1.0 
> work in a more recent version?  If not, is Panacea still taking $$$ 
> for this or does BMT Micro handle this?
> 
> thanks

The last version of ProNews/2 released was the 1.50Beta.  It may be 
retrieved from Hobbes.  Lookfor .... pn2_15b1.zip

George

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          11-Dec-99 15:01:10
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 14:33:26
Subj: Re: Possible to upgrade ProNews?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:36:10, jkv@vossen.org (Joseph K. Vossen) wrote:

> I am a registered user for ProNews/2, version 1.0.  I have noticed 
> that several people have a more current version than 1.0.  Is it 
> possible to obtain a more recent version of ProNews/2 than 1.0?  If 
> so, where?  

The big news in v.1.5 was multiple news servers. See What's New quoted
at the bottom, here.

But all that's out there is 3 beta builds, and one debug beta, 
released before they went keel up. Here's a FastFTP Search link:

	http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/cgi-bin/search?form=medium&query=pn2_15*zi
p

I haven't seen or heard reports of substantial differences between the
beta builds, but the last build has file dates inside of May 10 1998. 
If you can't find that build out there, write me and I'll mail it to 
you.


> If I obtain a copy, will the registration 'key' for 1.0 
> work in a more recent version?  

Sure does, if you have one. Or you can still delete the PNNMON 
Application in OS2.INI when the nag screen gets to you.


> If not, is Panacea still taking $$$ 
> for this or does BMT Micro handle this?

Panacea, no, but BMTMicro will accept your money, last I heard. We've 
been told (not by BMTMicro, though, as far as I know) that the 
developers are trying to get it together to do some more work on this,
and I for one have pledged to pay two registration fees as soon as 
they do, once for my previous use and once to use the new code. But 
they haven't taken my bait, and Christmas is coming (again) when 
everybody can use a few extra bucks, so I guess they're dead dead 
dead. I'm very sorry about that, because this was inspired 
programming, to my eye, and it would be nice if they'd clean up some 
of the remaining problems even if they don't add any more features.


-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com

----------------from README.TXT:

Whats new in this version
-------------------------

o Added support for multiple servers.  It is now possible to specify
multiple servers in the ProNews settings and subscribe to groups on
these different servers.

o Support for books.  News groups can now be logically organized into
books (which can be nested).

o Group aliases.  You can now give groups an alias to make it easier 
to
see which group is which in the control panel.

o Support for user defined groups.  Users may now create custom groups
to hold messages.  There are options to copy to these groups and
filters/HotFilters can be created to automatically copy messages into
these groups for later reading.

o Drag and drop for changing the order of groups and books, changing
the server to which a newsgroups is subscribed, changing the server of
an outgoing post, copying messages into custom user groups, changing
the order of items in the queue, and saving articles to a file.

o Added support for RGB colors in the control panel and article
windows.  Any color visible on your system can be used instead of the
16 you were limited to in earlier versions.

o Added support for reusing a single message reading window.  This
reduces memory usage and speeds up the loading of newsgroups.  This is
controlled via a setting so it is still possible to use the program as
it was in previous versions.

o Significant increase in startup speed.

New Minor features in 1.5 Beta 1
--------------

o Added Explore Thread option, which will show the complete thread via
DejaNews/Netscape.

o Added the ability to chain menu commands together. (They are
separated by a semicolon in the toolbar dialog).

o Tree expansion items were added to the group window menus.

o Backspace now acts as pageup in the group windows.

o Added the option to use a signiture file for posting.  This allows
sharing a signiture with other programs.

o Added help items to the toolbar pallette.

o Added Get All/New headers for selected groups to the control panel
toolbar pallette.

o Added % as a valid URL character.

o Added confirmations for deleting books.

o Added confirmations for deleting servers.

o Added an RMB menu to the 'followup-to' entry field in the posting
options dialog.  It contains a list of the groups you are subscribed 
to
and the 'poster' option.

o Made it possible to add a toolbar button to change the font of the
body pane on the fly.

o When forwarding articles the header of the forwarded article is now
included.

o Added Up/Down buttons to the filter pages to make it easier to
reorder filters.

o Beefed up the socket/NNTP error reporting dialogs to give text for
each type of message and state which server/group generated the error.

o Added setting and menu option to expand trees with highlighted
articles.

o Added menu options to mark entire threads read/unread.

o Added an option to make URL launching need a double click instead of
the current single click.

o Added option to set up ProNews not to keep article bodies from
program run to program run.

o Added an option to send yourself a copy of all outgoing posts.

o Added an option not to use the No-Spam setting in the Reply-To.

o Added -On and -Off command line options to allow the forcing of
ProNews into online or offline mode regardless of program settings.

o When subscribing to a newsgroup the user now has the option to 'get
all headers', 'get no headers', and 'get no headers and catchup 
group'.

o Added confirmations for get all bodies for all groups. 

o Added confirmations for closing group windows.

o Added a Delete Thread option.

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From: jpinet.juehara@Pronix.discovery.net               12-Dec-99 10:33:26
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 10:13:26
Subj: Pine

From: jpinet.juehara@Pronix.discovery.net (Julio Uehara)

I am trying to get Pine version 4.10 working in OS/2, v. 3. When composing
a message and want to postpone it I get the following message:
	"Unable to lock append folder"
	"Write to "postpond" FAILED!!"
with the letter becoming a dead one in the home directory.

Could somebody please help in putting this right?

Thanks in advance.

Julio

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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi                             12-Dec-99 20:05:20
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 19:56:11
Subj: Re: Possible to upgrade ProNews?

From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:01:21, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy 
Donnelly) wrote:
> 
> But all that's out there is 3 beta builds, and one debug beta, 
> released before they went keel up. Here's a FastFTP Search link:

I wasn't aware there were several beta builds. Sure enough, mine is 
beta 1 (from Help - Product information). All FastFTP Search hits were
pn2_15b1.zip

Maybe you should put the latest build on Hobbes, so that you don't end
up emailing 1.5MB files all over the world ;-)

Cheers, Dominique

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From: lonewulf@earthling.net                            13-Dec-99 00:58:20
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: ProNews/2 & XHDR Command

From: lonewulf@earthling.net (Bill Gillespie)

Hello
 
My news server doesn't support the XHDR Command, can someone
please tell me how I can turn it off in ProNews/2??
 
Thanks in advance.

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          13-Dec-99 02:15:19
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: Possible to upgrade ProNews?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:05:41, domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)
wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 15:01:21, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy 
> Donnelly) wrote:
> > 
> > But all that's out there is 3 beta builds, and one debug beta, 
> > released before they went keel up. Here's a FastFTP Search link:
> 
> I wasn't aware there were several beta builds. Sure enough, mine is 
> beta 1 (from Help - Product information). All FastFTP Search hits were
> pn2_15b1.zip
> 
> Maybe you should put the latest build on Hobbes, so that you don't end
> up emailing 1.5MB files all over the world ;-)
> 
> Cheers, Dominique

Cheers, yourself. The betas after the first one were distributed 
privately, and hobbes is probably still fussy about listing such 
things. (Funny, but they don't seem to be relaxed or thoughtful on the
subject of abandonware. Being a center for Higher Education and all.)

But here's a listing of the files I've got. I renamed the second and 
third beta, and the odd name contains the debug version of files from 
beta 3:

  pn2_15b1.zip                        1,564,097  05/06/1998  15:28
  pn2_15b2.zip                        1,564,472  05/08/1998  00:00
  pn2_15b3.zip                        1,565,461  05/10/1998  17:50
  150_119.zip                         1,544,384  06/04/1998  22:21

I'd be happy to forward them to anybody who wants to post them 
anywhere.

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: miharris@connectcorp.net                          13-Dec-99 05:24:21
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:21
Subj: Re: Possible to upgrade ProNews?

From: miharris@connectcorp.net

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 02:15:38, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy 
Donnelly) wrote:

 Quotedl  150_119.zip                         1,544,384  06/04/1998  
22:21

And IA_119 by far was the best of the LOT,... that one was so close to
GA!  What a shame....
 
                        _\\|//_    Pssst!
                       (` o-o ') /
        ---------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------

The Box said, "Requires Windows95 or better."
I use better, much better thank you...
                                         
Warped with OS/2 4.0 at FP 8 and Java 1.1.7A
_______________________________________
M   i   k   e   "D a B u l l"     H   a   r   r   i   s       

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/  
Undernet
#OS/2: Chanop 
_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/  

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From: nps@zeta.org.au                                   14-Dec-99 09:02:28
  To: All                                               14-Dec-99 11:41:16
Subj: Re: Pine

From: nps@zeta.org.au (Alvredus)

In <38537a11_3@news1.prserv.net>, jpinet.juehara@Pronix.discovery.net (Julio
Uehara) writes:

>I am trying to get Pine version 4.10 working in OS/2, v. 3. When composing
>a message and want to postpone it I get the following message:
>	"Unable to lock append folder"
>	"Write to "postpond" FAILED!!"
>with the letter becoming a dead one in the home directory.

>Could somebody please help in putting this right?

This happens if you don't have an environment variable TEMP that points to a
temporary directory; the need for this variable is omitted from the
installation instructions. Add

	SET TEMP=C:\TEMP

or similar to CONFIG.SYS.

Hope this helps.

	Nik S.


|\ Location: Sydney, Australia      | If sunbeams were weapons of war, we      

|\ E-mail: nps@zeta.org.au          | would have had solar energy centuries    

|  WWW: http://www.zeta.org.au/~nps | ago.                                     

|  ---> Cynicism & Negativity       |                                          

                                      - George Porter                          


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From: jpinet.juehara@Pronix.discovery.net               14-Dec-99 13:55:17
  To: All                                               14-Dec-99 14:35:14
Subj: Re: Pine

From: jpinet.juehara@Pronix.discovery.net (Julio Uehara)

On 14 Dec 1999 09:02:57 GMT, Alvredus <nps@zeta.org.au> wrote:
>This happens if you don't have an environment variable TEMP that points to a
>temporary directory; the need for this variable is omitted from the
>installation instructions. Add
>
>	SET TEMP=C:\TEMP
>
>or similar to CONFIG.SYS.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>	Nik S.
>
>
>|\ Location: Sydney, Australia      | If sunbeams were weapons of war, we     
 
>|\ E-mail: nps@zeta.org.au          | would have had solar energy centuries   
 
>|  WWW: http://www.zeta.org.au/~nps | ago.                                    
 
>|  ---> Cynicism & Negativity       |                                         
 
>                                      - George Porter                         
 
>
It really help me. Wrote the line on CONFIG.SYS, created the TEMP directory
(just used the E: drive instead of C:) and rebooted. It worked on the first
try!
It not only allowed me to postpone messages but also save messages from
my inbox.

Thanks a lot Nik!

  Julio

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 15-Dec-99 09:22:09
  To: All                                               15-Dec-99 16:48:09
Subj: Re: PMMail printing bug

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"Doug McKibbin" <dmckib@NOSPAM.goodnet.com> wrote:

>When I print an email from PMMail v2.00.1500, apostrophes are printed out
>incorrectly as a slanted A leaning against an E (best description).  Same
>thing happens when I edit the msg externally and do a SaveAs.  The
>characters are carried over.  Viewing the message displays apostrophes, but
>when printed or saved to a file, the AE appears in their place.  This
>doesn't happen with every message and I can't find a pattern of when it
>happens or with which kind of message.
>
>Example (if it comes through): leader’s (should be leader's)
>
>Anyone else get this bug?

Funny, I have gotten it on the screen display, but haven't
noticed it printing.  Comes and goes here as well (haven't
seen it in a few weeks).  Might be a good thing to mention
on the PMMail listserv, where who knows but it could end the
current OT-discussion-of-the-day.

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     15-Dec-99 17:29:02
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 02:11:08
Subj: Re: PMMail printing bug

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:27:44, "Doug McKibbin" 
<dmckib@NOSPAM.goodnet.com> wrote:

> When I print an email from PMMail v2.00.1500, apostrophes are printed out
> incorrectly as a slanted A leaning against an E (best description).  Same
> thing happens when I edit the msg externally and do a SaveAs.  The
> characters are carried over.  Viewing the message displays apostrophes, but
> when printed or saved to a file, the AE appears in their place.  This
> doesn't happen with every message and I can't find a pattern of when it
> happens or with which kind of message.
> 
> Example (if it comes through): leader?s (should be leader's)
> 
> Anyone else get this bug?
> 
> TIA,
> Doug McKibbin
> (remove NOSPAM from address if emailing)
> Regards,
> Doug McKibbin
> (remove NOSPAM from address when emailing)
> 

The only time I see THAT "bug", is when I get e-mail from somebody 
using Eudora Lite (there could be other e-mail programs that do the 
same thing, but that is the only place that I see it). It looks like 
something is munged in the character translation tables (probably, in 
Eudora lite, or in Win9x). What I do, to get around the problem, is 
ignore it on the screen, and if I want to print the message, I 
transfer it to my word processor (happens to be Lotus WordPro, but any
should do), and change all of the incorrect characters (the AE thing 
is ASCII 142) to the correct characters.

By the way, your example came through, not as the A with attached E, 
but as an upside down hollow T, which is ASCII 202.  

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: withjnaye@integrityonline.com                     16-Dec-99 19:10:29
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 03:47:22
Subj: Help with Ultimail in Warp 3

From: withjnaye@integrityonline.com

I connect to my mail server, it refreshes the inbasket, says it receiving
3-4-5 (however many)
messages, then stops, without beeping, and no envelope icons in the inbox
window. I don't
know where my mail is going. 

Jay

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From: dgwhiz*no-more-spam*@earthling.net                17-Dec-99 21:27:08
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: Pine

From: dgwhiz*no-more-spam*@earthling.net (DG)

One day after you posted your msg re. problems with v4.10, a
new port of Pine for OS/2 was released. It's Pine v4.21 and
it should be worth your while to d/l it. You'll find it at
Hobbes Incoming. 
The zip file is just over 1 meg and is listed first on the
page [if you use this URL to sort by date] at
 
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?sh=1&button=Browse&d
ir=%2
Fpub%2Fincoming&sort=date


The instructions for this new version are better, btw, and
do include sample lines you can use to set the Pine
environment variables, either through your config.sys or a
CMD file, to ensure that Pine can find the necessary Home
and Temp dirs plus the User name.

Acc'g to the programmer, Nicholas Sheppard, he has "fixed
all the serious bugs discovered in the 4.10 releases." His
website is
http://www.zeta.org.au/~nps/software/pine/en/index.html

so check it out.


--
DG





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