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From: williamd1@attglobal.net                           11-Dec-99 04:39:09
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 03:29:26
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: williamd1@attglobal.net (williamd)

This sounds *great*; thanks for posting the info! Here's hoping they
choose an appropriate domain name- like os2online or something!!

Bill

__
williamd1@attglobal.net

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From: mgreene@exis.net                                  11-Dec-99 00:05:19
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 03:29:26
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: "Michael K Greene" <mgreene@exis.net>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 17:32:00 -0800, Tim Martin wrote:

>Here's some hot news for all you NON-Warp City Members:

Tim,

Any other company would get a "great!!!", but let's look at who you are
talking about - Innoval???? 

>Tim Martin
>The OS/2 Guy
>Warp City (http://warpcity.com)
>"Y2K Special Discount Memberships Close 12/15!)
>

Michael K Greene <mgreene@exis.net>     |      OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311



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From: rjlapham@infinet.com                              10-Dec-99 23:46:20
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 03:29:26
Subj: Re: Warp 3 on the network ?

From: rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham)

In <bgOU4kDg6FUX090yn@ibm.net>, on 12/10/99 
   at 06:46 AM, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) said:

> In article <gYNQOADEmTvVGzsYD8JdWxtefSIh@4ax.com>, jams <jams@rhhs.com>
> wrote: >How do I get my base Warp 3 connected to the network ?
> >I need to install the NIC, setup TCPIP etc...
> >any help is greatly appreciated
> >
> >James

> Base Warp 3 is not "Network Enabled" ... the IAK (Internet Access Kit)
> on the Bonus Pack CDROM contains a Dial-up *only* TCP/IP stack that
> won't work with a LAN card.

> Least expensive (and easiest) way to do it is to go to e-Bay and buy a
> copy of Warp Connect (Warp 3 Network enabled) or Warp 4.
...
> Basically, you need MPTS (Multi-Protocol Transport Support) and TCP/IP
> to use the system on a LAN.

How about freetcp?  Would that work?

    -Jerry
-- 
============================================================
Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: rjlapham@infinet.com
Written Friday, December 10, 1999 - 11:46 PM (EST)
============================================================
MR/2 Ice tag:  Don't need an oven timer; just the smoke alarm.

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           11-Dec-99 05:46:00
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 03:29:26
Subj: Re: IDE ZIP drive was (No subject)

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 02:28:09, rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) 
wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:00:54, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) 
> wrote:
>  
> > > How about configuring it? What swiches are required on IBM's IDE driver.
>  
> > The IDE ZIP drive requires that you have the latest update
> > for the IDE device drivers installed and that you are using
> > Fixpack 6 for Warp 4 or later to obtain the removable device
> > support.
> 
> Hmmm...I'm using W3 FP 40 and the DANIS IDE driver. Any problems there?

I should have mentioned that for Warp 3 FP 35 or greater
is required. You should be OK with 40. DANIS506.ADD
works fine AFAIK.

> 
> > Device drivers have been moved to their own fixpack
> > series so if you install FP 12 you should also install
> > the DD01 fixpack.
> > 
> > You can obtain these through RSU updates or through
> > the FTP site ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/
> > 
> > With the IDE ZIP you just connect it to the IDE cable
> > (checking for Slave or Master of course) and if you
> > have the device support installed it comes up automatically.
> > 
> > The base device driver that is required (besides IBM1S506.add)
> > is IBMATAPI.FLT
>  
> > Partition the cartridge and format for FAT or HPFS.
> 
> So then is it seen as a HDD, IOW appears in FDISK?

FDISK finds it and treats it as a hard drive. That's why
you can partition it. IIRC when you first use a cartridge
irt will appear to have some kind of partition. Use
FDISK to delete what's there and then allocate the
partition. You can have more than one partition on
the cartridge if you want. There is some obscure
command line parameters for the driver that allow 
you to reserve drive letters for multi-partition cartridges
but I can't remember what they are....

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu                     11-Dec-99 06:22:04
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 03:29:27
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu

In article <3851A98F.459420AF@WarpCity.com>,
  OS2Guy@WarpCity.com wrote:

> Here's some hot news for all you NON-Warp City Members:

Look, don't bother doing us any "favors"...

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |But on the other hand...|
hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |There's 5 more fingers. |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: andrew@netneurotic.de                             11-Dec-99 09:45:17
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 05:07:10
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: andrew@netneurotic.de (Andrew J. Brehm)

Michael K Greene <mgreene@exis.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 17:32:00 -0800, Tim Martin wrote:
> 
> >Here's some hot news for all you NON-Warp City Members:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> Any other company would get a "great!!!", but let's look at who you are
> talking about - Innoval???? 

Why? What's wrong with Innoval?

-- 
Fan of Woody Allen
User of MacOS, BeOS, LinuxPPC
Supporter of Pepperoni Pizza

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    11-Dec-99 09:17:10
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 10:16:29
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:45:35, andrew@netneurotic.de (Andrew J. Brehm) 
wrote:

> Why? What's wrong with Innoval?

This is the company that quietly dropped support for, first, their 
newsreader, then (not so quietly) BOTH their OS/2 mail clients. 
Leaving loyal users out in the cold.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  11-Dec-99 10:02:25
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 10:16:29
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:17:20, rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:45:35, andrew@netneurotic.de (Andrew J. Brehm) 
> wrote:
> 
> > Why? What's wrong with Innoval?
> 
> This is the company that quietly dropped support for, first, their 
> newsreader, then (not so quietly) BOTH their OS/2 mail clients. 
> Leaving loyal users out in the cold.

.., thus proving conclusively that Innoval was in business to pay the 
grocery bills, rather than to promote OS/2. For the record, I use OS/2 
exclusively, but you really can't demand that a company put its resources 
into projects that don't pay back.

Happily, Innoval's Java-based mail client, "J Street Mailer", is now being 
developed and supported by users, and is now called "Polarbar". It is, as a
consequence, much improved over its condition when it was still an Innoval 
product, although it is still in its Beta phase. Things, you see, do 
sometimes work out for the best.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

E-mail sent to l_luciano@da.mob will, of course, not reach me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.


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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               11-Dec-99 09:51:05
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 16:33:28
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

williamd wrote:

> This sounds *great*; thanks for posting the info! Here's hoping they
> choose an appropriate domain name- like os2online or something!!
>
> Bill
> __
> williamd1@attglobal.net

Thanks Bill.  InnoVal actually engineered the low-cost
deal for OS/2 users in partnership with AFST (Advanced
Family Safe Technologies, Inc) and it is a great deal for
OS/2 users.

Get in now and it is only $12 a month for an entire year
with  56k connections, 100% dialup access either locally
or through an 800 number (and that includes Hawaii, Alaska
and Puerto Rico), 24 hours a day, 7 days a week access.
Go to any other vendor and ask for a discount because
you use OS/2 and they ignore you.  Sign up with them
and any OS/2 support you need is usually a joke of the
biggest kind.

InnoVal and AFST are doing this because they believe
OS/2 users are a better equipped and a more knowledgeable
group of Internet users.  We all know the most significant
costs for a nationwide ISP are marketing and technical
support.  OS/2 users are an active easier-to-reach online
community, we understand quickly, and we readily share
the knowledge with each other through various web sites
newsgroups, and other public forums.

Again, InnoVal is to be applauded for stepping forward
to once again, bring a service or product to the OS/2
community that is being ignored by other OS/2 vendors
or former OS/2 vendors.  JSM (now PolarBar) is still - to
this day - the best Java Emailer on the market and it is
being updated with new features and other good things
by the Paul vanKeep group of Java programmers.  Without
InnoVal JSM and PolarBar would be dead in the water.

OS/2 users need to support OS/2 users, vendors and
other commercial enterprises that cater to OS/2.  For
an OS/2 user to step forward in the public realm and
whine their heads off at such entrepreneurial leadership
is ridiculous.  More importantly, it is the best way to kill
off other OS/2 incentives.

Take advantage of the offer extended by and for OS/2
users by Innoval and AFST by signing up as a preferred
OS/2 user with their new ISP for OS/2 users.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City (http://warpcity.com)



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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               11-Dec-99 10:06:15
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 16:33:29
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu wrote:

> In article <3851A98F.459420AF@WarpCity.com>,
>   OS2Guy@WarpCity.com wrote:
>
> > Here's some hot news for all you NON-Warp City Members:
>
> Look, don't bother doing us any "favors"...

Unless it feeds your OS/2 pocket directly, right Steve?
You know like where to find that elusive OS/2 fix or
OS/2 great deal?

If I provide information or news you want then you can't
applaud me enough but if it isn't something to you like
to hear then you want to kill the messenger.

It is too bad you miss all the other good news and
information Warp City offers its members.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City (http://warpcity.com)


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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               11-Dec-99 10:01:13
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 16:33:29
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Bob Eager wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:45:35, andrew@netneurotic.de (Andrew J. Brehm)
> wrote:
>
> > Why? What's wrong with Innoval?
>
> This is the company that quietly dropped support for, first, their
> newsreader, then (not so quietly) BOTH their OS/2 mail clients.
> Leaving loyal users out in the cold.
>

Leaving loyal users out in the cold?  Lessee - did they withdraw
PostRoad Mailer from you the way the developer of CUSeeme/2
did?  Did they lie to you to get you to buy their product then run
off into the night the way SPG did?

No InnoVal did not.  To this day they provide free distribution of
the Post Road Mailer (try that with CUSeeMe/2) and have encouraged
others to continue development of the J Street Mailer. Which is exactly
what is happening.  Paul vanKeep and his band of merry OS/2 Java
developers have continued development of the former JSM (now
PolarBar) Java emailer and will continue to do so.  Had InnoVal
pulled that product and forbid anyone from touching it there would
be no PolarBar or further development today.

InnoVal is to be applauded for their continued devotion to
OS/2, the OS/2 user and the OS/2 community at large.

You want to kill off OS/2?  Take a look at what you are
personally doing to help do that today.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City (http://warpcity.com)



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From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca                          11-Dec-99 19:22:11
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 19:49:08
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Bob Eager (rde@tavi.co.uk) wrote:
: On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:45:35, andrew@netneurotic.de (Andrew J. Brehm) 
: wrote:

: > Why? What's wrong with Innoval?

: This is the company that quietly dropped support for, first, their 
: newsreader, then (not so quietly) BOTH their OS/2 mail clients. 
: Leaving loyal users out in the cold.

I would disagree with this point of view.
I mean first, when they decided to go Java, they let Post Road Mailer out
for free. For everyone. That was nice.

And then when they found that they couldn't pay their bills, they gave
PLENTY of advanced warning that they would have to do some sort of major
switch of business focus. 
JStreet mailer was nice, but since they didn't seem to plan on going on
with it, it has been left to someone else to maintain, unofficially, and
as far as I know it is available to everyone for FREE.

That's about as classy an exit as you can get. You mean, you
would actually want a quiet exit? Leave you hanging with no
notice? (TrueSpectra was also very nice about it, but I wish they'd given
more warning). I surely hope you are not comparing Innoval's exit with,
say SPG, or CUSeeMe/2 or maybe even DeScribe!

It's too bad about Innoval. I wish them luck, and if our paths should ever
cross in the future, I'll remember the nice things they did.



Isaac

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From: mamodeo@stny.rr.com                               11-Dec-99 17:45:26
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 19:49:08
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Marty <mamodeo@stny.rr.com>

Tim Martin wrote:
> [more spam]

Don't you think once was enough to post your spam?  Why not confine it to
appropriate newsgroups?

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From: mamodeo@stny.rr.com                               11-Dec-99 17:49:28
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 19:49:08
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Marty <mamodeo@stny.rr.com>

Tim Martin wrote:
> 
> It is too bad you miss all the other good news and
> information Warp City offers its members.

It is too bad your spam continues to infest these newsgroups.

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From: davidb@magicnet.net                               11-Dec-99 21:28:05
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 19:49:08
Subj: Re: Trap 000d  Really Bad Situation

From: davidb@magicnet.net

Lorne,

I can get to the command prompt and checked for PMPGI.DLL in OS2\DLL\ where
it was found.  It was a July 1999 file so I suspect it was a new one.

Are you suggesting that I find a previous version?

Yur neighbor,

David

davidb@magicnet.net   
Ocoee, Florida


In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-RNOLSFzO5Odd@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>It looks like the file PMGPI.DLL is missing.
>
>Can you boot to a command prompt. The ALT-F1 at boot
>time then choose the command line choice. 
>
>If you can the PMGPI.DLL "should" be in the
>directory that you specified for the BACKUP.
>
>You have to use UNPACK or UNPACK2 to de-compress the
>file.
>
>Lorne
>

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           11-Dec-99 22:23:03
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 19:49:08
Subj: Re: Trap 000d  Really Bad Situation

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

I thought that the PMGPI.DLL might be missing as a result
of the system trapping with the "locked files process".
The files updated by the fixpack are saved in your
"backup" directory that is specified for the service update
tool. Sometime restoring the files from that "backup" can
eliminate any incompatibilities. This is the same thing
as doing a "roll back" to your previous fix level.

The "updating locked files" process is actually doing the
updates for some of the fixpack files that could not be
done while the system is running with the desktop and
other programs active.

With the fixpack only partly applied you may have a
situation where incompatible versions of the files are
present. The only cure for this is a re-install of the
OS, well, not the only cure but probably the fastest.

The PMSHELL (desktop) load a bunch of DLL's

PMWP
PMMERGE
PMSPL
PMGPI
PMGRE
PMWIN
PMSHAPI
PMCTLS

and a bunch of others. If the files in the \os2\dll
path are not compatible you can end up with a 
situation where the desktop won't load. The
desktop INI files (os2.ini and os2sys.ini) might
also be corrupt and are killing the desktop.


Lorne

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:28:11, davidb@magicnet.net wrote:

> Lorne,
> 
> I can get to the command prompt and checked for PMPGI.DLL in OS2\DLL\ where
> it was found.  It was a July 1999 file so I suspect it was a new one.
> 
> Are you suggesting that I find a previous version?
> 
> Yur neighbor,
> 
> David
> 
> davidb@magicnet.net   
> Ocoee, Florida
> 
> 
> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-RNOLSFzO5Odd@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne 
Sunley) writes:
> >It looks like the file PMGPI.DLL is missing.
> >
> >Can you boot to a command prompt. The ALT-F1 at boot
> >time then choose the command line choice. 
> >
> >If you can the PMGPI.DLL "should" be in the
> >directory that you specified for the BACKUP.
> >
> >You have to use UNPACK or UNPACK2 to de-compress the
> >file.
> >
> >Lorne
> >
> 


--

Lorne Sunley

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From: davidb@magicnet.net                               11-Dec-99 23:01:04
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 19:49:08
Subj: Re: Trap 000d  Really Bad Situation

From: davidb@magicnet.net

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-fVLF4YUvY5oP@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>I thought that the PMGPI.DLL might be missing as a result
>of the system trapping with the "locked files process".
>The files updated by the fixpack are saved in your
>"backup" directory that is specified for the service update
>tool. Sometime restoring the files from that "backup" can
>eliminate any incompatibilities. This is the same thing
>as doing a "roll back" to your previous fix level.
>
>The "updating locked files" process is actually doing the
>updates for some of the fixpack files that could not be
>done while the system is running with the desktop and
>other programs active.
>
>With the fixpack only partly applied you may have a
>situation where incompatible versions of the files are
>present. The only cure for this is a re-install of the
>OS, well, not the only cure but probably the fastest.
>
>The PMSHELL (desktop) load a bunch of DLL's
>
>PMWP
>PMMERGE
>PMSPL
>PMGPI
>PMGRE
>PMWIN
>PMSHAPI
>PMCTLS
>
>and a bunch of others. If the files in the \os2\dll
>path are not compatible you can end up with a 
>situation where the desktop won't load. The
>desktop INI files (os2.ini and os2sys.ini) might
>also be corrupt and are killing the desktop.
>


That might explain the 4 occurences of the PMMERGW->PNGPI 

OK, I'll decide what to do here shortly.  Boy I never realized how much I
relied
on a small backroom server until it went down for this long.  It's been 24/7
for a couple of years
with only downtime for hdwe swaps & such.  This is a PITA.

Tnx again, I'll keep you posted.

David

>
>Lorne
>
>On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:28:11, davidb@magicnet.net wrote:
>
>> Lorne,
>> 
>> I can get to the command prompt and checked for PMPGI.DLL in OS2\DLL\ where
>> it was found.  It was a July 1999 file so I suspect it was a new one.
>> 
>> Are you suggesting that I find a previous version?
>> 
>> Yur neighbor,
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> davidb@magicnet.net   
>> Ocoee, Florida
>> 
>> 
>> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-RNOLSFzO5Odd@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca
(Lorne Sunley) writes:
>> >It looks like the file PMGPI.DLL is missing.
>> >
>> >Can you boot to a command prompt. The ALT-F1 at boot
>> >time then choose the command line choice. 
>> >
>> >If you can the PMGPI.DLL "should" be in the
>> >directory that you specified for the BACKUP.
>> >
>> >You have to use UNPACK or UNPACK2 to de-compress the
>> >file.
>> >
>> >Lorne
>> >
>> 
>
>
>--
>
>Lorne Sunley
>

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    11-Dec-99 23:47:23
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 21:20:14
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:01:26, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:

> InnoVal is to be applauded for their continued devotion to
> OS/2, the OS/2 user and the OS/2 community at large.
> 
> You want to kill off OS/2?  Take a look at what you are
> personally doing to help do that today.

Here we go again. Go away Tim.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    11-Dec-99 23:48:22
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 21:20:14
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:22:23, isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog) wrote:

> That's about as classy an exit as you can get. You mean, you
> would actually want a quiet exit? Leave you hanging with no
> notice?

That's what happened with their newsreader.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: dboultr@spamfree.erols.com                        12-Dec-99 00:49:05
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 21:20:14
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: dboultr@spamfree.erols.com

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 23:48:45, rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:

> That's what happened with their newsreader.

Geez, Bob!  What's this all about??  They knew their newsreader was a 
piece of crap, pretty much beyond saving.  There were at the time, and
have been subsequently, a ton of newsreader choices for OS/2 users.  
We didn't loose anything when they gave up that market.

I haven't looked at MR2/ICE 2.0 yet, but PostRoad Mailer is still 
arguably the best mail reader we have.  I paid for it once, long long 
ago, and I've gotten two major releases for free.  I still use PRM and
am happy with it.  I'm pretty sure I got the newsreader for free too. 

I'll agree with Dan that his customer support for individual users 
wasn't the greatest, but I don't recall having occasion to use it 
since 2.0 came out.  On the other hand, Dan and Innoval tried to do 
good things for OS/2 and several of the results are first class.  
NetExtra was a fine product for its time.  But ultimately, when fine 
products don't pay the bills, you have to do what you have to do.

Innoval doesn't make my OS/2 Hall of Shame.  I wish them well, and 
would buy their software again should the occasion arise.

Doug Boulter

To reply by e-mail, remove the obvious spam traps from the address

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From: not-bigshorts@interested.earthli...               11-Dec-99 23:53:15
  To: All                                               11-Dec-99 21:20:14
Subj: Re: ICQ for OS/2

Message sender: not-bigshorts@interested.earthlink.net

From: not-bigshorts@interested.earthlink.net (Carl S.)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:28:10, "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net> wrote:

> Does anyone know of an ICQ or equivalent for OS/2 Warp? Or how about an
> AOL instant messenger (ICQ for AOL I think??) I was looking/hoping for
> native OS/2 coded apps...
> 
> Just checking....
> 
> Ken
> 

For ICQ stick with the java version.


Thanks,

Carl S

______________________________________________________________
Posted via Uncensored-News.Com, http://www.uncensored-news.com
    Only $8.95 A Month, - The Worlds Uncensored News Source

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    12-Dec-99 01:58:03
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 02:24:02
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:49:11, dboultr@spamfree.erols.com wrote:

> > That's what happened with their newsreader.
> 
> Geez, Bob!  What's this all about??  They knew their newsreader was a 
> piece of crap, pretty much beyond saving.  There were at the time, and
> have been subsequently, a ton of newsreader choices for OS/2 users.  
> We didn't loose anything when they gave up that market.

I quite agree. But I was just answering the point made. I used it. I 
stopped using it when I got no reply to my support requests. It wasn't
good and they were right to drop it. But I NEVER (as this was my 
point) received anything to say they were doing it....as I say, it WAS
done quietly. And I paid full price for it. No regrets...I had some 
use out of it.

As far as the mailers go....I made the original post because someone 
asked why someone else was hostile about Innoval. I put forward a 
reason.

I like Post Road Mailer. I bought 2.0. I bought the upgrade to 2.5. I 
bought the upgrade to 3.0. I heard about enough early bugs in JSM to 
stop me upgrading to that. And problems with Java at the time, to be 
fair.

The problem for me wa support. In the early days I got a good response
and even a feature I wanted, in some form. But I reported a bug early 
in the life of 2.5 (a violation of SMTP and POP3, both). I never even 
got a response. It was never fixed. Not polite. Even an email saying 
they hadn't the resources would have been OK. I really appreciate 
their problems.

I bought NetExtra too. And the upgrades. All of them. Despite the 
silly name of WWWatch (does it have the same connotations in the US?).
I couldn't have supported Innoval more, without a charitable donation!

I think it's a shame the product line died. I have their products on 
my website to keep them alive. Amd a workround I did for the protocol 
bugs. I only wish they could have given Paul van Keep the source to 
JSM, to save him time.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu                     12-Dec-99 04:28:08
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 02:24:03
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu

In article <385292A6.B3969AE6@WarpCity.com>,
  OS2Guy@WarpCity.com wrote:

> Unless it feeds your OS/2 pocket directly, right Steve?
> You know like where to find that elusive OS/2 fix or
> OS/2 great deal?

LOL! I certainly don't need *you* for that! I used OS/2 for 3 years
before ever reading a single newsgroup...

> If I provide information or news you want then you can't
> applaud me enough but if it isn't something to you like
> to hear then you want to kill the messenger.

Hardly... Since your memory is faulty, I'll have to remind you that
I've rarely responded positively to any of your posts...

> It is too bad you miss all the other good news and
> information Warp City offers its members.

And this is precisely why I say not to do us any "favors". You aren't
here to help OS/2 users, you're just fishing for compliments.

And if this isn't true, then the post to which I am replying would
never had been made.

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |But on the other hand...|
hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |There's 5 more fingers. |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com                              12-Dec-99 08:47:29
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 05:15:12
Subj: icons disappeared

From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick)

I've lost a couple of icons and can't find them. I need the OS/2
system editor and the clipboard viewer. Can someone point me to where
they are located or send the files to me.

TIA

Doug

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From: Skree@stubble.jumpers                             12-Dec-99 03:05:24
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 05:15:12
Subj: Re: icons disappeared

From: Skree@stubble.jumpers

The sys editor and clipboard viewer live in your os2 root directory under
the names:

e.exe for the sys editor and clipos2.exe for the clipboard viewer.

Kenn


In <82vnfv$hev$1@newsfeed.smartt.com>, on 12/12/99 
   at 08:47 AM, gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick) said:

Q}I've lost a couple of icons and can't find them. I need the OS/2 system
Q}editor and the clipboard viewer. Can someone point me to where they are
Q}located or send the files to me.

Q}TIA

Q}Doug

Q}%%%% Remove leading g from address for email replies. %%%%


-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Kenn Sunley
MR/2 ICE ver 1.60 reg'd
Date: 1999.12.12
Time: 03:05:48 - -0600

Warp 4
233Mhz PII
ATI Xpert@work
Gradd Rocks - thank you IBM
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From: wsonna@ibm.net                                    12-Dec-99 14:10:00
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 14:24:12
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:17:20, rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:45:35, andrew@netneurotic.de (Andrew J. Brehm) 
> wrote:
> 
> > Why? What's wrong with Innoval?
> 
> This is the company that quietly dropped support for, first, their 
> newsreader, then (not so quietly) BOTH their OS/2 mail clients. 
> Leaving loyal users out in the cold.
> 

Would you prefer the jerk with the fourty thousand lines of code he'd 
rather throw away and he did because its his not yours so fuck you 
routine?  That is usually what happens when software companies leave 
markets.

Innoval, in contrast, was exemplary in the manner in which they left 
the OS/2 maketplace.

Consequently, there is still a great deal of good will towards them; 
and they remain highly respected.


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          12-Dec-99 14:29:28
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 14:24:12
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 04:28:17, hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu wrote:

> In article <385292A6.B3969AE6@WarpCity.com>,
>   OS2Guy@WarpCity.com wrote:
> 
> > Unless it feeds your OS/2 pocket directly, right Steve?
> > You know like where to find that elusive OS/2 fix or
> > OS/2 great deal?
> 
> LOL! I certainly don't need *you* for that! I used OS/2 for 3 years
> before ever reading a single newsgroup...

Responding, not to carry water for Warp City (and I should add, I've 
been to both Kathmandu and Ice Station 9 in the same day as often as 
I've been to Warp City) but just to point out:

There are 2 ways to use newsgroups. 

One way is to "read" them, presumably gleaning info for your own 
personal use. 

The other way is to read them to offer help with things you've become 
experienced at handling.

Tim Martin, of course, has a long history of generously offering help 
here, and (back when I wasn't filtering his own posts because he gets 
into long-running and useless arguments with kneejerk detractors) saw 
that his help was quite timely, accurate, and thoughtfully offered.

Though I never met the cat, never spoke in fact with anyone who has 
actually met him, I would still be willing to bet that he couldn't 
"use OS/2 for 3 years" and stay quiet without trying to offer help to 
others. It's a character flaw I can live with, especially when 
compared to the rampant self-proud selfishness that an increasingly 
WWF world is trying to justify.


-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: phillipd@antares.cloudnet.com                     12-Dec-99 14:43:27
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 14:24:13
Subj: Re: Warp 3 on the network ?

From: Phillip Davenport <phillipd@antares.cloudnet.com>

Jerry Lapham <rjlapham@infinet.com> wrote:
> In <bgOU4kDg6FUX090yn@ibm.net>, on 12/10/99 
>    at 06:46 AM, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) said:

>> In article <gYNQOADEmTvVGzsYD8JdWxtefSIh@4ax.com>, jams <jams@rhhs.com>
>> wrote: >How do I get my base Warp 3 connected to the network ?
>> >I need to install the NIC, setup TCPIP etc...
>> >any help is greatly appreciated

>> Base Warp 3 is not "Network Enabled" ... the IAK (Internet Access Kit)
>> on the Bonus Pack CDROM contains a Dial-up *only* TCP/IP stack that
>> won't work with a LAN card.

> How about freetcp?  Would that work?

Jacco thinks so - <http://huizen.dds.nl/~jacco2/freetcp.html/>

  p

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              12-Dec-99 10:09:02
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 14:24:13
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <38528F0F.D987D612@WarpCity.com>, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>
wrote:
>williamd wrote:
>
>> This sounds *great*; thanks for posting the info! Here's hoping they
>> choose an appropriate domain name- like os2online or something!!
>>
>> Bill
>> __
>> williamd1@attglobal.net
>
>Thanks Bill.  InnoVal actually engineered the low-cost
>deal for OS/2 users in partnership with AFST (Advanced
>Family Safe Technologies, Inc) and it is a great deal for
>OS/2 users.
>
>Get in now and it is only $12 a month for an entire year
>with  56k connections, <smooch, smooch> 100% dialup access either locally
>or through an 800 number <slurp> (and that includes Hawaii, Alaska
>and Puerto Rico), 24 hours a day, 7 days a week access.
>Go to any other vendor and ask for a discount because
>you use OS/2 and they ignore you. <swallow>...

Ok, Tim, take your sloppy spam, get off your knees, and get out of here.

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              12-Dec-99 09:04:29
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 14:24:13
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <38529175.49EDE961@WarpCity.com>, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>
wrote:
>Bob Eager wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:45:35, andrew@netneurotic.de (Andrew J. Brehm)
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Why? What's wrong with Innoval?
>>
>> This is the company that quietly dropped support for, first, their
>> newsreader, then (not so quietly) BOTH their OS/2 mail clients.
>> Leaving loyal users out in the cold.
>>
>
>Leaving loyal users out in the cold?  Lessee - did they withdraw
>PostRoad Mailer from you the way the developer of CUSeeme/2
>did?

Yes, with Postroad News before that.

>Did they lie to you to get you to buy their product then run
>off into the night the way SPG did?

Yes.

>No InnoVal did not.  To this day they provide free distribution of
>the Post Road Mailer...

They provide NOTHING.  The rest of us are moving the distribution archives
around.  Innoval's support web site has been dead (literally) for years now.

>...(try that with CUSeeMe/2) and have encouraged
>others to continue development of the J Street Mailer.

So they dumped the source and said it's now a do-it-yourself product.  What's
the big deal?

>InnoVal is to be applauded for their continued devotion to
>OS/2, the OS/2 user and the OS/2 community at large.

Wipe your chin, take your kneepads, and get out of here, Timmy.

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              12-Dec-99 09:11:13
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 14:24:13
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <82u89f$m08$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca>, isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca
(e-frog) wrote:
>Bob Eager (rde@tavi.co.uk) wrote:
>: On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:45:35, andrew@netneurotic.de (Andrew J. Brehm)
>: wrote:
>
>: > Why? What's wrong with Innoval?
>
>: This is the company that quietly dropped support for, first, their
>: newsreader, then (not so quietly) BOTH their OS/2 mail clients.
>: Leaving loyal users out in the cold.
>
>I would disagree with this point of view.
>I mean first, when they decided to go Java, they let Post Road Mailer out
>for free. For everyone. That was nice.

No it wasn't.  It was a marketing move to try to get people to play with their
product in a less functional mode to entice them to buy the "full" version.
It's a common method to increase sales.  There was nothing "nice" about it,
since by that time they had already stopped supporting most of the customers
who paid full price.

>And then when they found that they couldn't pay their bills, they gave
>PLENTY of advanced warning that they would have to do some sort of major
>switch of business focus.
>JStreet mailer was nice, but since they didn't seem to plan on going on
>with it, it has been left to someone else to maintain, unofficially, and
>as far as I know it is available to everyone for FREE.

No, they didn't give "plenty" of advance warning, unless if you include the
bounced emails to "tech support."

>That's about as classy an exit as you can get.

Not hardly.  Accepting payments for Postroad News and Mail licenses AFTER they
had discontinued support is as far from classy as you can get.

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              12-Dec-99 09:20:01
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 14:24:13
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article
<sXnyXDNIUu65-pn2-bIZk5nYBQJxh@207-172-184-121.s121.tnt6.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.co
m>, dboultr@spamfree.erols.com wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 23:48:45, rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:
>
>> That's what happened with their newsreader.
>
>Geez, Bob!  What's this all about??  They knew their newsreader was a
>piece of crap, pretty much beyond saving.

I'm sure that could be true, but what all the people who bought it with the
understanding that they weren't buying a dead-end product with absolutely no
support?

>There were at the time, and
>have been subsequently, a ton of newsreader choices for OS/2 users.
>We didn't loose anything when they gave up that market.

No, Doug, "a ton" there isn't, not hardly.  Depending upon your choice of
delivery, the choice is certainly less than 5.  The choice of NNTP (and mail)
clients with active support (now) is now down to 1.

>I haven't looked at MR2/ICE 2.0 yet, but PostRoad Mailer is still
>arguably the best mail reader we have.  I paid for it once, long long
>ago, and I've gotten two major releases for free.

Innoval's last two major releases were v2.00 and v3.00.  Are you trying to
tell us that you were given a free upgrade to v2.00 and then again to v3.00,
while the rest of the world had to pay?

>I still use PRM and am happy with it.

You appear to be a very undemanding user.

>I'm pretty sure I got the newsreader for free too.

Only if you got your registration key in a warez newsgroup, I'm afraid.  The
rest of us paid for it, and received no support assistance when it wouldn't
work.  Innoval never released a free registration code for that product.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     12-Dec-99 16:43:25
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 14:24:14
Subj: Re: icons disappeared

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 08:47:59, gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick) 
wrote:

> I've lost a couple of icons and can't find them. I need the OS/2
> system editor and the clipboard viewer. Can someone point me to where
> they are located or send the files to me.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Doug
> 
> %%%% Remove leading g from address for email replies. %%%%
> 

From the FILE_ID.DIZ in ORC150.ZIP (to be found at HOBBES, and other 
fine OS/2 sites):
===================================================
'ObjectReCreator' v1.50 - Easy-to-use PM program to restore lost
desktop objects. All standard WPS desktop objects from INI.RC 
and most standard MMOS2 objects can be recreated while any 
current settings will be preserved. Freeware.
===================================================

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: fwkirk@attglobal.net                              12-Dec-99 17:22:12
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 16:45:15
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: fwkirk@attglobal.net (Frank Kirk)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:32:00, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:

> Here's some hot news for all you NON-Warp City Members:
 
> FST Inc, has joined in a business partnership arrangement
> with National DialUp Services and InnoVal Systems Solutions,
> to provide a low-cost nationwide ISP service for OS/2 users.
> ISP800, a private brand ISP for corporate customers, is
> inaugurating service for consumers on January 3,  2000.

Tim,

	That's some of the best news I've heard in a while.  Thanks for 
posting it.

FWK

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From: jglatt@spamgone-borg.com                          12-Dec-99 18:36:07
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 16:45:15
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: jglatt@spamgone-borg.com (Jeff Glatt)

>William Sonna
>Innoval, in contrast, was exemplary in the manner in which they left 
>the OS/2 maketplace.

What's so exemplary about leaving the OS/2 marketplace? Virtually all
commercial OS/2 developers have done so by now, and I have no doubt
that countless other developers have done so too. Hell, a great number
of endusers have done so too. It's not like leaving behind OS/2 is
uncommon. Just ask IBM and they'll tell you (in a leaked memo,
probably)

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               12-Dec-99 12:37:04
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 19:56:10
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Alan Boritz wrote:

> Wipe your chin, take your kneepads, and get out of here, Timmy.

Statements such as this confirm to all the
whining ass/fool you continually demonstrate
yourself to be.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com

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From: mamodeo@stny.rr.com                               12-Dec-99 16:05:23
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 19:56:10
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Marty <mamodeo@stny.rr.com>

Tim Martin wrote:
> 
> Alan Boritz wrote:
> 
> > Wipe your chin, take your kneepads, and get out of here, Timmy.
> 
> Statements such as this confirm to all the
> whining ass/fool you continually demonstrate
> yourself to be.

Statements such as this confirm to all the whining ass/fool you continually
demonstrate yourself to be.

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               12-Dec-99 14:32:18
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 19:56:11
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Marty wrote:

> Tim Martin wrote:
> >
> > Alan Boritz wrote:
> >
> > > Wipe your chin, take your kneepads, and get out of here, Timmy.
> >
> > Statements such as this confirm to all the
> > whining ass/fool you continually demonstrate
> > yourself to be.
>
> Statements such as this confirm to all the whining ass/fool you continually
> demonstrate yourself to be.

Not gonna play this game Marty.  Your personal desire
to start flame wars with those you have a personal
hatred for are simply not worth the time of day.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City (http://warpcity.com)
"We Close The Y2K Discount Door For '99 Members 12/15"


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From: mamodeo@stny.rr.com                               12-Dec-99 18:12:28
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 19:56:11
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Marty <mamodeo@stny.rr.com>

Tim Martin wrote:
> 
> Marty wrote:
> 
> > Tim Martin wrote:
> > >
> > > Alan Boritz wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wipe your chin, take your kneepads, and get out of here, Timmy.
> > >
> > > Statements such as this confirm to all the
> > > whining ass/fool you continually demonstrate
> > > yourself to be.
> >
> > Statements such as this confirm to all the whining ass/fool you
continually
> > demonstrate yourself to be.
> 
> Not gonna play this game Marty.

You already have been, Tim.  The above is evidence of this.

> Your personal desire to start flame wars with those you have a personal
> hatred for are simply not worth the time of day.

I don't hate you Tim.  In fact, I kinda like you.  Your antics have been quite
amusing over the years.  As far as starting flame wars, that was not my
intention.  Rather, I intended to point out the irony of your statement.

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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     12-Dec-99 22:14:00
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 19:56:11
Subj: Yamaha CRW6416S moved to 1542, CDRecord/2 can't see it

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

        [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc]

After three days of replacing cables, moving terminators, and shifting
devices on and off the SCSI cable, I finally gave up trying to make my
new Yamaha CRW6416S SCSI CD writer coexist with the two hard drives on
my motherboard's Adaptec 7880 50-pin cable (reported in
comp.periphs.scsi).

Since the Yamaha won't play nice with my hard drives, I pulled out an
old Adaptec 1542B and gave the Yamaha a SCSI bus of its very own
(internal cable).  Unfortunately, I still can't access it through
CDRecord/2.  Suggestions would be welcomed...  if I can't get it _and_
my SCSI hard drives working at the same time, I need to send it back to
DCD this week or next.

A -scanbus with CDRecord/2 v1.8a32 never sees the Yamaha (Device ID=5 on
the 1542) as a CD drive.  Here's what it reports:

--
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (C.
        Wohlgemuth-scsi-os2.c-1.11b '@(#)scsi-os2.c	1.11 99/11/20
        Copyright 1998 J. Schilling, C. Wohlgemuth').
Cdrecord release 1.8a32 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J÷rg Schilling
scsibus0:
	0,0,0	  0) 'HP      ' 'C3724S          ' '6039' Disk
	0,1,0	  1) *
	0,2,0	  2) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST32550N        ' '0022' Disk
	0,3,0	  3) *     (these two are correct)
	0,4,0	  4) *
	0,5,0	  5) *
	0,6,0	  6) *
	0,7,0	  7) *
scsibus1:
	1,0,0	100) *
	1,1,0	101) *
	1,2,0	102) *
	1,3,0	103) *
	1,4,0	104) *
	1,5,0	105) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST32550N        ' '0022' Disk
	1,6,0	106) *   (**** No, it's not! ****)
	1,7,0	107) *
((scsibus2-15 snipped))
--

Now, I really _don't_ have two Seagate ST32550Ns (;-) - the only device
set to ID=5 is the Yamaha, so that _has_ to be what is being reported as
"1,5,0".  So...  we do a device inquiry:

   cdrecord dev=1,5,0 -inq
Cdrecord release 1.8a32 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J÷rg Schilling
scsidev: '1,5,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 5 lun: 0
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (C.
    Wohlgemuth-scsi-os2.c-1.11b '@(#)scsi-os2.c       1.11 99/11/20
    Copyright 1998 J. Schilling, C. Wohlgemuth').
cdrecord: Cannot do inquiry for CD/DVD-Recorder.
cdrecord: I/O error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS)
cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s
cdrecord: The unit seems to be hung and needs power cycling.
--

I can't tell for certain, but it _looks_ like the ST32550 is being 
"blipped' when I do this. In any case, there is no activity on the 
Yamaha.

The "alternate" form of dev= is apparently not supported:

[22 H:\ftp\cdr2]cdrecord dev=aha154x:5,0 -inq
Cdrecord release 1.8a32 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J÷rg Schilling
scsidev: 'aha154x:5,0'
devname: 'aha154x'
scsibus: 0 target: 5 lun: 0
cdrecord: Invalid argument. Open by 'devname' not supported on this OS.
    Cannot open SCSI driver.



Here are the relevant drivers snipped from my CONFIG.SYS file:

    REM aic7870 for A.I.R. motherbaord, aha154x for Adaptec 1542B (ISA)
    BASEDEV=aic7870.add /v
    BASEDEV=aha154x.ADD /v
    ...
    REM *** OS/2 SCSI device support (required for BTSSCSI.SYS)
    BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
    ...
    Rem --- The following two drivers are needed for CDRecord/2
    Rem -- Moved to end of CONFIG.SYS to prevent hard hang on ASPIROUT
    device=c:\pause\aspirout.sys
    Rem -- OK: /SHARE, /SHARE /ALL
    basedev=os2aspi.dmd /share /all
    Rem ---

The 1542 doesn't recognize the Yamaha during the BIOS scan, but it has
been so long since I had anything _but_ hard drives hooked up I'm not
sure if it's looking for anything _besides_ hard drives.  The OS/2
driver (AHA154X.ADD), however, does see it just fine, and reports it as
"YAMAHA CRW6416S 1.0c".

Any ideas on how I can get CDRecord/2 talking to the drive?


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: bobmcl@ibm.net                                    11-Dec-99 14:58:23
  To: All                                               12-Dec-99 19:56:11
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net>


Buddy Donnelly wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 19:20:18, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug
> Bissett) wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:59:10, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  A
> > > good notebook is a nice thing to keep, if you're playing with things
> > > like this, because in other cases (than PMMERGE) you might encounter
> > > problems days or weeks later that you might trace to that wild seed,
> > > and the notebook will jigger your memory to restore it before going
> > > completely insane.
> snip
> >
> > Yeah, but that takes all the FUN out  of trying to figure out what you
> > did to mess something up <G>.
> >
> > I knew a guy, a few years ago, who kept very detailed records of
> > everything that he did to his computer, in a file on the computer. Of
> > course, when the computer quit working, he had no way to get at the
> > data to see what he did, that  might have caused the problem. The
> > moral of this story, is keep an actual notebook, with more, or less,
> > legible scribbling in it, if you are going to keep a log of events.
>
> I'm not ashamed to reveal that when I began my first attempts at using
> OS/2, I fully intended to use a running note file on the root of the
> HD, to keep track of all such items. IBM should (still) be ashamed
> that I had to give that up almost immediately, since I couldn't get
> access to the HD often enough to use it.
>
> And I've still got the little steno pad I had to switch to, first
> dated entry 6-25-95, now dogeared and grimy. Sigh. La nostalgie. And
> the book even lists some of the names of IBM-ers who should be the
> most ashamed for jacking me around with my problems back then. When
> they auction my estate at Christie's, whoever ends up with the steno
> pad will be able to publicize those names to make their heirs cringe.
>
> --
>
> Good luck,
>
> Buddy
>
> Buddy Donnelly
> donnelly@tampabay.rr.com

 An alternative that I am finding increasingly effective is to only change
things on the system through a command file. This is my record of what I
did, and if it is OK I can repeat it if necessary with confidence. Of
course, to be really useful I keep the commands on a separate LAN connected
machine (and backed up) and, there are still things that I cannot figure out
how to do by command. and sometimes, when lots of little fiddly changes are
called for, a test system is nice to have. What I would really love is the
ability to copy a system to another drive and change all the drive letter
references. What a great test environment that would be.

--
------------------------------------------------------
Bob McLellan
The Little Blue Kiwi
OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland


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From: bowenjm@rintintin.colorado.edu                    13-Dec-99 02:50:17
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:19
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: bowenjm@rintintin.colorado.edu (Jason Bowen)

You proved yourself as a liar a long time ago so why do you continue to
believe that you will be taken seriously?  Like I said, the impact wasn't
hard enough.

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From: bowenjm@rintintin.colorado.edu                    13-Dec-99 02:53:04
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:19
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: bowenjm@rintintin.colorado.edu (Jason Bowen)

In article <38542283.F14569D2@WarpCity.com>,
Tim Martin  <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:
>Marty wrote:
>
>> Tim Martin wrote:
>> >
>> > Alan Boritz wrote:
>> >
>> > > Wipe your chin, take your kneepads, and get out of here, Timmy.
>> >
>> > Statements such as this confirm to all the
>> > whining ass/fool you continually demonstrate
>> > yourself to be.
>>
>> Statements such as this confirm to all the whining ass/fool you continually
>> demonstrate yourself to be.
>
>Not gonna play this game Marty.  Your personal desire
>to start flame wars with those you have a personal
>hatred for are simply not worth the time of day.

This coming from somebody that does just that, priceless.  So was it an
airbag or a seatbelt that kept you free to spew hypocrisy?

>
>Tim Martin
>The OS/2 Guy
>Warp City (http://warpcity.com)
>"We Close The Y2K Discount Door For '99 Members 12/15"
>
>


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From: tgal@pobox.com                                    12-Dec-99 18:09:20
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: Folders in Popup

From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com>

Say, how do I add folders to the main Popup menu in Warp 4?
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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          13-Dec-99 02:15:19
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 04:58:46, Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net> wrote:
snip
> 
>  An alternative that I am finding increasingly effective is to only change
> things on the system through a command file. This is my record of what I
> did, and if it is OK I can repeat it if necessary with confidence. Of
> course, to be really useful I keep the commands on a separate LAN connected
> machine (and backed up) and, there are still things that I cannot figure out
> how to do by command. 

If only I could be disciplined enough not to go back in manually and 
start making command line changes (unlogged, of course) when the 
system won't come back up.


>and sometimes, when lots of little fiddly changes are
> called for, a test system is nice to have. What I would really love is the
> ability to copy a system to another drive and change all the drive letter
> references. What a great test environment that would be.

This issue ties to the one regarding "Desktop Portability", it seems 
to me, and I'm surprised a better solution hasn't come up. I, too, 
have attempted moving a C: install to D: and tried to make all the 
reference changes, and failed. But we know the number of drive letter 
entries are finite, so it's just a matter of building a data base that
ultimately includes everything. A true "registry", in other words.

On the Window$ side, I just saw an ad for "Desktop DNA", a product 
that promised to "preserve and move everything that makes up your 
system's identity---your bookmarks, dictionaries, palettes, and 
more---through customized upgrades or entire system migrations." (the 
refernce URL is http://www.miramarsys.com/dpub.htm ) and I suspect 
something like this might turn into a successful product for somebody.


It would also be interesting to start with, in OS/2, a logging daemon 
that recorded changes made in system files affecting configuration.

Hurry up, programmers. Get this thing written quickly and I'll put one
under my Xmas tree.


-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          13-Dec-99 02:32:18
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: Folders in Popup

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 02:09:40, "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" 
<tgal@pobox.com> wrote:

> Say, how do I add folders to the main Popup menu in Warp 4?
> -- 
XFolder lets you do it, but you can't in Plain Warp. You can only add 
objects of the Program persuasion via the popup menu.

Why not just drag off shadows of the folders you're using to your 
desktop?

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 12-Dec-99 22:19:08
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.marketplace, aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)
spake unto us, saying:

>No, Doug, "a ton" there isn't, not hardly.  Depending upon your choice of
>delivery, the choice is certainly less than 5.  The choice of NNTP (and
>mail) clients with active support (now) is now down to 1.

There are considerably more than five newsreaders for OS/2, Alan.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                  * SLMR 2.0 #694 * Just kidding!!!  :-)

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From: miharris@connectcorp.net                          13-Dec-99 04:50:29
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: miharris@connectcorp.net

On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:20:03, aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) 
wrote:

 
Quotedl>I'm pretty sure I got the newsreader for free too.
Quotedl
QuotedlOnly if you got your registration key in a warez newsgroup, I'm
afraid.  The
Quotedlrest of us paid for it, and received no support assistance when it
wouldn't
Quotedlwork.  Innoval never released a free registration code for that
product.

You're WAY out of line here,... I got a FREE copy of the newsreader 
(not warez).  It was free to those of us who purchased the GREEN 
version of PRM v1.0. .... then again,... that may have been long 
before you came on board as an os/2'er!   Next, time be a little more 
careful about (accusing ppl of illegal actions) sticking your foot in 
your mouth,... you may have accidently stepped in something!  ;^)

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From: nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com                     12-Dec-99 22:35:22
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: Yamaha CRW6416S moved to 1542, CDRecord/2 can't see it

From: "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com>

On 12 Dec 1999 22:14:00 GMT, Frank McKenney wrote:

>        [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc]
>
>After three days of replacing cables, moving terminators, and shifting
>devices on and off the SCSI cable, I finally gave up trying to make my
>new Yamaha CRW6416S SCSI CD writer coexist with the two hard drives on
>my motherboard's Adaptec 7880 50-pin cable (reported in
>comp.periphs.scsi).
>
>Since the Yamaha won't play nice with my hard drives, I pulled out an
>old Adaptec 1542B and gave the Yamaha a SCSI bus of its very own
>(internal cable).  Unfortunately, I still can't access it through
>CDRecord/2.  Suggestions would be welcomed...  if I can't get it _and_
>my SCSI hard drives working at the same time, I need to send it back to
>DCD this week or next.
>
>A -scanbus with CDRecord/2 v1.8a32 never sees the Yamaha (Device ID=5 on
>the 1542) as a CD drive.  Here's what it reports:
>
>--
>Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
>cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (C.
>        Wohlgemuth-scsi-os2.c-1.11b '@(#)scsi-os2.c	1.11 99/11/20
>        Copyright 1998 J. Schilling, C. Wohlgemuth').
>Cdrecord release 1.8a32 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
>scsibus0:
>	0,0,0	  0) 'HP      ' 'C3724S          ' '6039' Disk
>	0,1,0	  1) *
>	0,2,0	  2) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST32550N        ' '0022' Disk
>	0,3,0	  3) *     (these two are correct)
>	0,4,0	  4) *
>	0,5,0	  5) *
>	0,6,0	  6) *
>	0,7,0	  7) *
>scsibus1:
>	1,0,0	100) *
>	1,1,0	101) *
>	1,2,0	102) *
>	1,3,0	103) *
>	1,4,0	104) *
>	1,5,0	105) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST32550N        ' '0022' Disk
>	1,6,0	106) *   (**** No, it's not! ****)
>	1,7,0	107) *
>((scsibus2-15 snipped))
>--
>
>Now, I really _don't_ have two Seagate ST32550Ns (;-) - the only device
>set to ID=5 is the Yamaha, so that _has_ to be what is being reported as
>"1,5,0".  So...  we do a device inquiry:
>
>   cdrecord dev=1,5,0 -inq
>Cdrecord release 1.8a32 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
>scsidev: '1,5,0'
>scsibus: 1 target: 5 lun: 0
>Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
>cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (C.
>    Wohlgemuth-scsi-os2.c-1.11b '@(#)scsi-os2.c       1.11 99/11/20
>    Copyright 1998 J. Schilling, C. Wohlgemuth').
>cdrecord: Cannot do inquiry for CD/DVD-Recorder.
>cdrecord: I/O error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
>CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
>status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS)
>cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s
>cdrecord: The unit seems to be hung and needs power cycling.
>--
>
>I can't tell for certain, but it _looks_ like the ST32550 is being 
>"blipped' when I do this. In any case, there is no activity on the 
>Yamaha.
>
>The "alternate" form of dev= is apparently not supported:
>
>[22 H:\ftp\cdr2]cdrecord dev=aha154x:5,0 -inq
>Cdrecord release 1.8a32 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
>scsidev: 'aha154x:5,0'
>devname: 'aha154x'
>scsibus: 0 target: 5 lun: 0
>cdrecord: Invalid argument. Open by 'devname' not supported on this OS.
>    Cannot open SCSI driver.
>
>
>
>Here are the relevant drivers snipped from my CONFIG.SYS file:
>
>    REM aic7870 for A.I.R. motherbaord, aha154x for Adaptec 1542B (ISA)
>    BASEDEV=aic7870.add /v
>    BASEDEV=aha154x.ADD /v
>    ...
>    REM *** OS/2 SCSI device support (required for BTSSCSI.SYS)
>    BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
>    ...
>    Rem --- The following two drivers are needed for CDRecord/2
>    Rem -- Moved to end of CONFIG.SYS to prevent hard hang on ASPIROUT
>    device=c:\pause\aspirout.sys
>    Rem -- OK: /SHARE, /SHARE /ALL
>    basedev=os2aspi.dmd /share /all
>    Rem ---
>
>The 1542 doesn't recognize the Yamaha during the BIOS scan, but it has
>been so long since I had anything _but_ hard drives hooked up I'm not
>sure if it's looking for anything _besides_ hard drives.  The OS/2
>driver (AHA154X.ADD), however, does see it just fine, and reports it as
>"YAMAHA CRW6416S 1.0c".
>
>Any ideas on how I can get CDRecord/2 talking to the drive?

Today I've posted in comp.os.os2.multimedia some my experience with Adaptec &
Yamaha CRW6416S,
(subj Re: help with cdr) which may be of some help.

Nick Saxon

>
>Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
>Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
>E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com
>



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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au                               13-Dec-99 03:23:07
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: AW230 Soundcard help

From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

1.	I have recently purchased the above soundcard on the 
basis that it was a crystal based one that worked well with 
OS/2. But a trip to Aopen's usa site to download the os2 
driver file seems to show a problem the exe file does not 
appear to be either a dos or OS/2 executable. Attempts to 
run it fire up a Windows session that dies with an 
unexpected dos error 23. Which as i seem to recall means 
that its a Win95 executable.
2.	Can someone confirm this to me and if possible an email 
of the files that the executable creates would be wounderful
(i don't have Win95 on this machine).
3.	For those following some recent postings of mine - the 
Athlon 500 is in and working - what a speed difference to 
the old P75!
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 12-Dec-99 22:09:05
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: Folders in Popup

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com> wrote:

>Say, how do I add folders to the main Popup menu in Warp 4?

First install Xfolder -- get it from 

	http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/~h0444vnd/os2.htm

Then, create a program by adapting this REXX script:

/* REXX */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysOpenObject', 'RexxUtil', 'SysOpenObject'
/*
Possible values of 'mode':

0 Default
1 Contents (Icon view for folders)
2 Settings
3 Help
4 Execute
5 Prompt dialog?  (Undocumented)
101 Tree View
102 Details View
121 Palette?      (Undocumented)
*/

mode = 0

call SysOpenObject "F:\desktop", mode, TRUE
/*
Opens the desktop folder on drive F:.  Change the path to reflect the location
or object-id of any object on the system.
*/

...then place an program-object referring to this REXX file
in your Xfolder Configuration folder (but suggest you get
thoroughly acquainted with Xfolder and its superb docs
before trying this).



-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           13-Dec-99 04:52:14
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: AW230 Soundcard help

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 03:23:14, rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane) 
wrote:

> 1.	I have recently purchased the above soundcard on the 
> basis that it was a crystal based one that worked well with 
> OS/2. But a trip to Aopen's usa site to download the os2 
> driver file seems to show a problem the exe file does not 
> appear to be either a dos or OS/2 executable. Attempts to 
> run it fire up a Windows session that dies with an 
> unexpected dos error 23. Which as i seem to recall means 
> that its a Win95 executable.

Yes, that is the infamous "you need Win95 for this" error.

> 2.	Can someone confirm this to me and if possible an email 
> of the files that the executable creates would be wounderful
> (i don't have Win95 on this machine).

You can download the drivers from the Crystal web site
and they put them in a regular ZIP file.
You should also send a note to AOpen about the
method they use to distribute the files. Who knows,
maybe it will do some good.

The FTP site isURL
ftp://ftp.crystal.com/pub/drivers/audio/

The web site is URL
http://www.crystal.com

The files are dependant on the card chipset.

> 3.	For those following some recent postings of mine - the 
> Athlon 500 is in and working - what a speed difference to 
> the old P75!


--

Lorne Sunley

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From: rlackl1@attglobal.net                             13-Dec-99 02:30:08
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 05:13:27
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: rlackl1@attglobal.net

In <3859ea15.5012307@news.borg.com>, on 12/12/99 
   at 06:36 PM, jglatt@spamgone-borg.com (Jeff Glatt) said:

>What's so exemplary about leaving the OS/2 marketplace? Virtually all
>commercial OS/2 developers have done so by now, and I have no doubt that
>countless other developers have done so too. Hell, a great number of
>endusers have done so too. It's not like leaving behind OS/2 is uncommon.
>Just ask IBM and they'll tell you (in a leaked memo, probably)

Actually, at least a year ago I mentioned that I was an OS/2 user to our
'friendly' IBM (mainframe) CE, and he smirked and said that IBM wasn't
going to continue supporting it.  OS/2 still runs on the IOSP boxes that
control the big IBM boxes, but I don't know for how much longer.

-------
rlackl1@attglobal.net
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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    12-Dec-99 09:59:29
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 10:24:20
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

I assume this offer is valid only in the U.S.?  :-(


In article <3851A98F.459420AF@WarpCity.com>,
Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:
>Here's some hot news for all you NON-Warp City Members:
>
>FST Inc, has joined in a business partnership arrangement
>with National DialUp Services and InnoVal Systems Solutions,
>to provide a low-cost nationwide ISP service for OS/2 users.
>ISP800, a private brand ISP for corporate customers, is
>inaugurating service for consumers on January 3,  2000.
>
>Extra special prices are available for any OS/2 user who
>pre-registers for  the service by December 30, 1999. In
>addition, three subscribers will be selected, at random,
>from the first 100 OS/2 users who signup. These three
>subscribers will receive free ISP service for one year until
>December 31, 2000.
>
>Highlights of ISP800 service include:
>
>Your choice of:
>
>Unlimited 56K access through an 800 dialup number or unlimited service
>using a local dialup number.
>
>A high performance and high capacity POP3 email mailbox
>
>SMTP outbound email
>
>Toll free 24/7 technical support
>
>Very low cost for OS/2 users. ISP800 may also be used with Linux,
>Mac, and  Windows95/98 client platforms.
>
>No signup fees. You may cancel the service at the end of any month.
>
>Anyone who travels, uses the Internet from more than one permanent
>location, or lives in an area not supported by a local access number,
>is encouraged to use the 800 number. Performance on the 800 number
>is equal to that of local access numbers since all connections are
>automatically and instantly re-directed through a close-proximity
>modem. Access with the 800 number is available anywhere in the
>United States where a dial tone is available. THERE IS NEVER AN
>ADDITIONAL FEE FOR USING THE 800 NUMBER TO ACCESS ISP800.
>Airfone (in plane service) and some hotels do charge access
>fees when you dial an 800 number.
>
>ISP800 Prices:
>
>    Regular service:   $19.95
>    For all OS/2 Users:   $15.95 ***
>
>*** Anyone who pre-registers for the service by December 30, 1999, will
>receive the first year of service for only $11.95 per month. You must be
>an
>OS/2 user to pre-register at this price. Your pre-registration must be
>received by 5:00pm on 12/30/99.
>
>Additional email accounts are $3.95 per month. Limit is four additional
>email accounts.
>
>Please note: There is no direct USENET newsgroup access at this time. If
>
>enough OS/2 users subscribe and there is sufficient interest, ISP800
>will
>add newsgroup access for OS/2 users. Deja (dejanews) and other web-based
>
>newsgroup services may be used in lieu of standard USENET.
>
>For additional information, and to signup for ISP800, please visit
>http://isp800.com/os2. In particular, see the price page and the FAQ
>page.
>For additional information send an email to os2isp@innoval.com.
>
>---------------------
>
>The OS/2 Community should sit up and take notice and support
>this new enterprise!
>
>Tim Martin
>The OS/2 Guy
>Warp City (http://warpcity.com)
>"Y2K Special Discount Memberships Close 12/15!)
>

-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: wsonna@ibm.net                                    13-Dec-99 12:14:16
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 10:24:20
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna)

On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:36:15, jglatt@spamgone-borg.com (Jeff Glatt) 
wrote:

> >William Sonna
> >Innoval, in contrast, was exemplary in the manner in which they left 
> >the OS/2 maketplace.
> 
> What's so exemplary about leaving the OS/2 marketplace?

I said "in the manner in which they left".

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From: mcray@interlog.com                                13-Dec-99 13:22:25
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 14:27:00
Subj: java v1.18 install?

From: mcray@interlog.com (Raymond McKenna)

Hello to all in OS/2 land.

I'm unsure that java  v1.18 is properly installed.  The 
install process reaches 90+ %  then it generates an error beep 
and says that the install has failed.  The java components seem 
to be all there and the config.sys has been updated.  It's Warp 
v4 with FP12.  Feature Install is current.  The last 2 lines of 
the install log output are as follows:

03-10-1999   2:53:12 AM **NULLID** :: Exception -1073741819
returned to instthrd.c 730l
03-10-1999   2:53:12 AM Java11 :: Installation complete. 

Can anyone advise me one way or another on this issue? 
Raymond.


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From: luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be                  13-Dec-99 17:04:29
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 14:27:00
Subj: Re: Folders in Popup

From: "Luc Van Bogaert" <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be>

On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:09:40 -0800, Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.) wrote:

>Say, how do I add folders to the main Popup menu in Warp 4?

I suppose you could do this with a little REXX... Make a REXX cmd file to open 
an object on your 
system, make program objects of this cmd file for each folder you want to open 
via the popup menu, in 
each program object settings provide the full object name of the folder you
want opened as an argument 
to the cmd file, finally place the program objects for these cmd files in the
menu. An example of such a 
cmd file would be :

/* load RexxUtil functions */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs

/* parse the arguments */
if arg() = 0 then signal noarg;
else parse arg objectName

/* open the object */
rc=SysOpenObject(objectName, "Default", "True")
if rc = 0 then signal openfail;

exit

noarg:
	say "No arguments were specified."

exit

openfail:
	say "Opening the object failed."

exit

Luc Van Bogaert

  Vice President  - Warpstock
    Visit www.warpstock.org for the most important OS/2 event of the year


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From: ccsten@usa.net                                    13-Dec-99 11:42:09
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 14:27:00
Subj: Re: Folders in Popup

From: Terry Norton <ccsten@usa.net>

Here's how I added the Startup Folder to it.

I created a Rexx CMD file called StartupFolder.CMD.  I used the
Object ID of the Startup Folder. The code is:


--------------snip------------------
/* */
Call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
Call SysLoadFuncs
rc=SysOpenObject('<WP_START>','DEFAULT','TRUE')
--------------snip------------------

Or, you can could also do the same thing using the path to the
folder:

--------------snip------------------
/* */
Call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
Call SysLoadFuncs
rc=SysOpenObject('C:\Desktop\OS!2 System\Startup','DEFAULT','TRUE')
--------------snip------------------


Then, on the popup menu select PROPERTIES, select the Menu tab. 
Under Actions on menu press Create Another.  Now type what you want
to call the item on the menu, then the path to your CMD file. (It's
actually easier if you just drag the folder to the entry box and let
OS/2 put the path in.)



"Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" wrote:
> 
> Say, how do I add folders to the main Popup menu in Warp 4?
> --

-- 

Terry Norton
Warped with OS/2

    A sign of the '90s:
       Your supervisor doesn't have the ability to do your job.

This OS/2 system uptime is 0 days 18 hours 59 minutes (en).

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              13-Dec-99 06:26:02
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 14:27:00
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article
<o33IbyOQk5WV-pn2-dGmXdSNPI6fU@miharris.connectcorp.net.209.43.130.112>,
miharris@connectcorp.net wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:20:03, aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) 
>wrote:
>
> 
>Quotedl>I'm pretty sure I got the newsreader for free too.
>Quotedl
>QuotedlOnly if you got your registration key in a warez newsgroup, I'm
afraid.  The
>Quotedlrest of us paid for it, and received no support assistance when it
wouldn't
>Quotedlwork.  Innoval never released a free registration code for that
product.
>
>You're WAY out of line here,... I got a FREE copy of the newsreader 
>(not warez).  It was free to those of us who purchased the GREEN 
>version of PRM v1.0.

You idiot, you paid for BOTH products.  "Free" in that context has a very
different meaning.

> .... then again,... that may have been long 
>before you came on board as an os/2'er!

Not likely.  It was a while before I experimented with PRM, but it was a
version before 2.00.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     13-Dec-99 19:47:03
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 17:04:11
Subj: Re: java v1.18 install?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:22:50, mcray@interlog.com (Raymond McKenna) 
wrote:

> Hello to all in OS/2 land.
> 
> I'm unsure that java  v1.18 is properly installed.  The 
> install process reaches 90+ %  then it generates an error beep 
> and says that the install has failed.  The java components seem 
> to be all there and the config.sys has been updated.  It's Warp 
> v4 with FP12.  Feature Install is current.  The last 2 lines of 
> the install log output are as follows:
> 
> 03-10-1999   2:53:12 AM **NULLID** :: Exception -1073741819
> returned to instthrd.c 730l
> 03-10-1999   2:53:12 AM Java11 :: Installation complete. 
> 
> Can anyone advise me one way or another on this issue? 
> Raymond.
> 

I don't know about your situation, but I had something similar (if not
exactly the same) happen when I installed JAVA 1.1.7. It always worked
without any problems, and I had no trouble when I updated to JAVA 
1.1.8. Somebody indicated that the problem has something to do with 
only installing the runtime component of the whole JAVA development 
package. I never did follow up on that, so I don't know whether that 
was the case. 

I suggest that you do the JAVA 1.1.8 update (available from:

 ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/

), and use it. If there is an indication of any problems, try 
uninstalling it, and do it again.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: jkrim@ecrix.com                                   13-Dec-99 21:17:16
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 19:44:00
Subj: FDISK corrupt before installing Warp 4.0

From: jkrim@ecrix.com  (Jordan Krim)

I have the following hard disk setup according to
FDISK under WARP 3.0:

Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size

    1 WIN 98       :    1    0c      1          0     3004
    1 005de2bf     :    1    0a      2       3004        7 <- Bootmanager
    1 WARP 3.0    C:    1    07      1       3012      258 <- HPFS
    1 006638a0    D:    2    06      0       3271     1004 <- FAT share
    1 00859920    E:    2    06      4       4275      258 <- Linux swap
    1 RH LINUX    F:    2    06      5       4534     2000
    1 00cc3240    G:    2    07      0       6534      502 <- HPFS
    1 00dbe280    H:    2    06      0       7036      902 <- FAT share
    1 00f81333    I:    2    07      0       7938      768 <- HPFS
                                             **BIOS:8032MB
    2 0000003f     :    1    00      0          0        7
    2 00003f00    J:    2    07      0          7     3004 <- Win 98 filtered

When I go to install WARP 4.0 (in partition G:), the FDISK
is corrupted to the point I get this:

Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size

    1 0000003f     :    1    0c      0          0     3004
    1 005de2bf     :    1    0a      2       3004        7
    1 005e2180    C:    1    07      4       3012      258
    1 00663861     :    3    00      0       3271     5436
                                             **BIOS:8032MB

Nothing is formatted and BootManager is lost.  What can I do to get FDISK
for WARP 4.0 the same as FDISK for WARP 3.0 so I can proceed with installing
WARP 4.0?

Jordan Krim
jkrim@ecrix.com
jkrim@mho.com

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           13-Dec-99 22:09:18
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 19:44:01
Subj: Re: FDISK corrupt before installing Warp 4.0

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:17:32, jkrim@ecrix.com  (Jordan Krim) wrote:

> I have the following hard disk setup according to
> FDISK under WARP 3.0:
> 
> Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size
> 
>     1 WIN 98       :    1    0c      1          0     3004
>     1 005de2bf     :    1    0a      2       3004        7 <- Bootmanager
>     1 WARP 3.0    C:    1    07      1       3012      258 <- HPFS
>     1 006638a0    D:    2    06      0       3271     1004 <- FAT share
>     1 00859920    E:    2    06      4       4275      258 <- Linux swap
>     1 RH LINUX    F:    2    06      5       4534     2000
>     1 00cc3240    G:    2    07      0       6534      502 <- HPFS
>     1 00dbe280    H:    2    06      0       7036      902 <- FAT share
>     1 00f81333    I:    2    07      0       7938      768 <- HPFS
>                                              **BIOS:8032MB
>     2 0000003f     :    1    00      0          0        7
>     2 00003f00    J:    2    07      0          7     3004 <- Win 98
filtered
> 
> When I go to install WARP 4.0 (in partition G:), the FDISK
> is corrupted to the point I get this:
> 
> Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size
> 
>     1 0000003f     :    1    0c      0          0     3004
>     1 005de2bf     :    1    0a      2       3004        7
>     1 005e2180    C:    1    07      4       3012      258
>     1 00663861     :    3    00      0       3271     5436
>                                              **BIOS:8032MB
> 
> Nothing is formatted and BootManager is lost.  What can I do to get FDISK
> for WARP 4.0 the same as FDISK for WARP 3.0 so I can proceed with installing
> WARP 4.0?
> 

That usually is a result of NOT updating the installation diskettes
with the IDEDASD.EXE update file.

URL 

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe


--

Lorne Sunley

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From: jkrim@ecrix.com                                   13-Dec-99 22:16:16
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 19:44:01
Subj: Re: FDISK corrupt before installing Warp 4.0

From: jkrim@ecrix.com  (Jordan Krim)

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-7UxD6dO2zdqD@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:17:32, jkrim@ecrix.com  (Jordan Krim) wrote:
>
>> I have the following hard disk setup according to
>> FDISK under WARP 3.0:
>>
>> Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size
>>
>>     1 WIN 98       :    1    0c      1          0     3004
>>     1 005de2bf     :    1    0a      2       3004        7 <- Bootmanager
>>     1 WARP 3.0    C:    1    07      1       3012      258 <- HPFS
>>     1 006638a0    D:    2    06      0       3271     1004 <- FAT share
>>     1 00859920    E:    2    06      4       4275      258 <- Linux swap
>>     1 RH LINUX    F:    2    06      5       4534     2000
>>     1 00cc3240    G:    2    07      0       6534      502 <- HPFS
>>     1 00dbe280    H:    2    06      0       7036      902 <- FAT share
>>     1 00f81333    I:    2    07      0       7938      768 <- HPFS
>>                                              **BIOS:8032MB
>>     2 0000003f     :    1    00      0          0        7
>>     2 00003f00    J:    2    07      0          7     3004 <- Win 98
filtered
>>
>> When I go to install WARP 4.0 (in partition G:), the FDISK
>> is corrupted to the point I get this:
>>
>> Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size
>>
>>     1 0000003f     :    1    0c      0          0     3004
>>     1 005de2bf     :    1    0a      2       3004        7
>>     1 005e2180    C:    1    07      4       3012      258
>>     1 00663861     :    3    00      0       3271     5436
>>                                              **BIOS:8032MB
>>
>> Nothing is formatted and BootManager is lost.  What can I do to get FDISK
>> for WARP 4.0 the same as FDISK for WARP 3.0 so I can proceed with
installing
>> WARP 4.0?
>>
>
>That usually is a result of NOT updating the installation diskettes
>with the IDEDASD.EXE update file.
>
>URL
>
>ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe
>
>
>--
>
>Lorne Sunley
>
But, in this case I did update Diskette #1 with IDEDASD.EXE contents.
There is an IBM1S506.SNP on Diskette #1 that I have no idea what it is.
I made no updates to Diskette #2.

Jordan Krim
jkrim@ecrix.com
jkrim@mho.com

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From: dboultr@spamfree.erols.com                        13-Dec-99 23:05:05
  To: All                                               13-Dec-99 21:12:03
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: dboultr@spamfree.erols.com

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:26:05, aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) 
wrote:

> You idiot, you paid for BOTH products.  "Free" in that context has a very
> different meaning.

Gosh, Alan, I'm certainly impressed with your economic analysis.

Now, if we all chipped in and bought you a copy of Win98, would you 
just go away? 

Doug Boulter

To reply by e-mail, remove the obvious spam traps from the address

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From: tgal@pobox.com                                    13-Dec-99 19:26:25
  To: All                                               14-Dec-99 03:29:06
Subj: Re: Folders in Popup

From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com>

Buddy Donnelly wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 02:09:40, "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)"
> <tgal@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > Say, how do I add folders to the main Popup menu in Warp 4?
> > --
> XFolder lets you do it, but you can't in Plain Warp. You can only add
> objects of the Program persuasion via the popup menu.
> 
> Why not just drag off shadows of the folders you're using to your
> desktop?

My Desktop is always buried under 5 feet of opened windows. .
.one of 
the pleasures of the WPS   ;>
-- 
 ===>  tgal@pobox.com

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From: gzimmer@attglobal.net                             14-Dec-99 04:38:29
  To: All                                               14-Dec-99 03:29:06
Subj: Re: Yamaha CRW6416S moved to 1542, CDRecord/2 can't see it

From: gzimmer@attglobal.net

In <8316n8$9ru$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com
(Frank McKenney) writes:
>        [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc]
>
>After three days of replacing cables, moving terminators, and shifting
>devices on and off the SCSI cable, I finally gave up trying to make my
>new Yamaha CRW6416S SCSI CD writer coexist with the two hard drives on
>my motherboard's Adaptec 7880 50-pin cable (reported in
>comp.periphs.scsi).

Bearing in mind that although older, I have the same setup as you. A Yamaha
4416SX SCSI, and an Adaptec, (ancient ISA) SCSI card. OS/2 recognized both,
even before recent updates. 

>Since the Yamaha won't play nice with my hard drives, I pulled out an
>old Adaptec 1542B and gave the Yamaha a SCSI bus of its very own
>(internal cable).  Unfortunately, I still can't access it through
>CDRecord/2. 

Before we even get to CDRecord/2, does OS/2 recognize your setup??

Use the 'verbiose' parameter on both your IBM1s506.add. and your SCSI driver
statements in Config.sys, to make sure the OS recognizes everything in the
proper way, on boot. If so, and you can access each drive properly...

>A -scanbus with CDRecord/2 v1.8a32 never sees the Yamaha (Device ID=5 on
>the 1542) as a CD drive.  Here's what it reports:

..make sure you are giving CDRecord/2 the proper parameters for your
drive. I have only one SCSI card, which is master 0, and the Yamaha is
second in the chain, so I would give CDrecord/2 LUN=0,2,0 as the destination
for my Yamaha CDR device. If you have two SCSI controllers in your computer
you may have to use LUN=1,X,X. Using the 'verbiose' paramaters, when you
boot, will help you pass on the correct parameters to CDRecord/2. The first
number is SCSI controller number, 0 if you have only one SCSI controller
installed, the second number is SCSI device number. I have no idea what
the third number is in the CDRecord/2 LUN=. I just know that 0 works for me. 
It's needed to satisfy the UNIX definition of a drive port as far as I can
tell. 

I don't see a problem with your hardware, I think you are just giving CDRecord
the wrong parameters in your device assignment. Assuming everything is OK
under OS/2 itself, just use the parameters OS/2 reports when enabling
'Verbiose'
mode in config.sys.

Gail Zimmerman
gzimmer@ibm.net

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From: miharris@connectcorp.net                          14-Dec-99 06:45:08
  To: All                                               14-Dec-99 03:29:06
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: miharris@connectcorp.net

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:26:05, aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) 
wrote:
 
QuotedlYou idiot, you paid for BOTH products.  "Free" in that context has a
very
Quotedldifferent meaning.

Hmmm, let me get this right,.... if I purchase a product for X dollars
and the company says that if I make said purchase BEFORE Y date they 
would give me Z product,... but if I purchased AFTER Y date then I 
would have to pay ($$$$) for Z product.  I think most ppl would agree 
with my interpretation of "free"  I'm sure you'd take a car dealer up 
on THAT offer if it were made to you,... but then again since you're 
the "smarter" one, you'd probably say naaah,  let the "idot" purchase 
it, since .....("Free" in that context has a very different meaning.) 
to you! ;^)
 

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I use better, much better thank you...
                                         
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From: tgal@pobox.com                                    13-Dec-99 23:38:18
  To: All                                               14-Dec-99 11:41:16
Subj: Re: Folders in Popup

From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com>

Thank you all for your responses; I'm saving your suggestions.
To be sure, WarpCenter would address my need were it not
for it crashing my system at every other mouse click
. . . has it ACTUALLY been improved since about 1 year ago?  

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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au                               14-Dec-99 10:45:19
  To: All                                               14-Dec-99 11:41:16
Subj: Re: AW230 Soundcard help

From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:52:29, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne
Sunley) wrote in part:

> The FTP site isURL
> ftp://ftp.crystal.com/pub/drivers/audio/
> 
> The web site is URL
> http://www.crystal.com
> 
> The files are dependant on the card chipset.
> 
> 
> Lorne Sunley
> 
Thank you for the reply, a session of searching the net 
found either these or somewhere else that had the crystal 
files I needed.
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: bobmcl@ibm.net                                    13-Dec-99 11:27:20
  To: All                                               14-Dec-99 19:59:12
Subj: Re: IDE ZIP drive was (No subject)

From: Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net>


Lorne Sunley wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 02:28:09, rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:00:54, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > How about configuring it? What swiches are required on IBM's IDE
driver.
> >
> > > The IDE ZIP drive requires that you have the latest update
> > > for the IDE device drivers installed and that you are using
> > > Fixpack 6 for Warp 4 or later to obtain the removable device
> > > support.
> >
> > Hmmm...I'm using W3 FP 40 and the DANIS IDE driver. Any problems there?
>
> I should have mentioned that for Warp 3 FP 35 or greater
> is required. You should be OK with 40. DANIS506.ADD
> works fine AFAIK.
>
> >
> > > Device drivers have been moved to their own fixpack
> > > series so if you install FP 12 you should also install
> > > the DD01 fixpack.
> > >
> > > You can obtain these through RSU updates or through
> > > the FTP site ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/
> > >
> > > With the IDE ZIP you just connect it to the IDE cable
> > > (checking for Slave or Master of course) and if you
> > > have the device support installed it comes up automatically.
> > >
> > > The base device driver that is required (besides IBM1S506.add)
> > > is IBMATAPI.FLT
> >
> > > Partition the cartridge and format for FAT or HPFS.
> >
> > So then is it seen as a HDD, IOW appears in FDISK?
>
> FDISK finds it and treats it as a hard drive. That's why
> you can partition it. IIRC when you first use a cartridge
> irt will appear to have some kind of partition. Use
> FDISK to delete what's there and then allocate the
> partition. You can have more than one partition on
> the cartridge if you want. There is some obscure
> command line parameters for the driver that allow
> you to reserve drive letters for multi-partition cartridges
> but I can't remember what they are....
>
> --
>
> Lorne Sunley

 The extra switches are documented in readme.rms which is in the fixpack.
------------------------------------------------------
Bob McLellan
The Little Blue Kiwi
OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     14-Dec-99 20:32:03
  To: All                                               14-Dec-99 19:59:12
Subj: Re: icons disappeared

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 01:02:49, gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick) 
wrote:

> It recreated the objects, but with the incorrect icons. How do I get
> the icons fixed? Is the simplest way to have someone send me the two
> files?
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
> %%%% Remove leading g from address for email replies. %%%%
> 

I would suspect that you are back to the original icons, and that you 
may have, at some time, replaced the originals with something else. 
The original System Editor icon looks like a page, with a pencil 
poised over it, and an OS2Warp banner over the top. The original 
clipboard viewer looks like a (surprise) clipboard. Do you have 
something different, after you recreated the icons???

You can change the attached icons, by right mouse click on the icon-> 
Properties (Settings in warp 3)-> Icon-> then select one of the large 
buttons (Find, would be the most common). If you don't have the 
default icons, there must be a new icon attached, and that is stored 
in the EAs for the files (actually, the original icon is there also). 
Perhaps an EA editor might show you something, and allow you to remove
the "incorrect" icons. I don't know if it will help, but try out Henk 
Kelder's EABROWSE program from:

http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/

Hope this helps.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: dweintr@azstarnet.com                             14-Dec-99 20:59:27
  To: All                                               15-Dec-99 03:46:01
Subj: Video Card

From: "David B. Weintraub" <dweintr@azstarnet.com>

I have upgraded my cpu and motherboard to a PCI 200mmx Pentium system
(Don't ask what is was before). I have a Video card with a WD90C30 chip
and have added 4 chips for video should give at least 2 MB of VRAM.

There is a switch on the face plate next to the VGA connector.  I need
the settings for the 6 dip switches on the board to up the video
resolution.

There is also a jumper jp2 that is closed .  Any help?

David

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From: j.welton@mailcity.com                             15-Dec-99 16:57:23
  To: All                                               15-Dec-99 21:17:21
Subj: InnoVal/AFST Will Offer Newsgroup Access!

From: Jeff Welton <j.welton@mailcity.com>

I just read this at Warp City:

InnoVal/AFST Will Offer Newsgroup Access! 
   Wednesday , December 15 

   This Is A Warp City EXCLUSIVE: AFST (in partnership with Innoval)
   will be  announcing full newsgroup access for OS/2 users of ISP800.
   They are setting up the server today. This is a direct result of the
   many signups so far and the very constructive emails they received
   "strongly" but nicely explaining how important the newsgroups are
   to OS/2 users since they need usenet for tech support and product
   info in the OS/2 arena. Please read the (Pre) Press Release for more
   details.  We encourage you to take advantage of these low-cost
   exceptional high quality OS/2 ISP services. 

Jeff

Jeffrey D. Welton



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From: luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be                  15-Dec-99 18:22:13
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 02:11:09
Subj: Re: ICQ for OS/2

From: "Luc Van Bogaert" <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be>

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 21:38:18 -0700 (MST), Doug McKibbin wrote:

>There is an OS/2 native ICQ called ICQ/2.  Search hobbes for icq or see 
>http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/chat/

Has anyone ever used this and whishes to comment on it?


Luc Van Bogaert

	... Don't underestimate the power of OS/2



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From: isaacl@jazz.ece.ubc.ca                            15-Dec-99 20:07:24
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 02:11:09
Subj: Re: ICQ for OS/2

From: isaacl@jazz.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Luc Van Bogaert (luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be) wrote:
: On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 21:38:18 -0700 (MST), Doug McKibbin wrote:

: >There is an OS/2 native ICQ called ICQ/2.  Search hobbes for icq or see 
: >http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/chat/

: Has anyone ever used this and whishes to comment on it?

It is still very much beta.
The interface looks like a polished up ICQ Java and works pretty much
the same.

Some bugs that I noticed:
- Minimize icon is goofed up
- When un-minimizing, the window doesn't refresh properly
- Password is not hidden (but I think it is corrected with the "i" or "j"
release).
- Doesn't seem to remember my user info, must query the server each time.

ICQ/2 does show pending requests for authorization, it does have sounds
when I get messaged, and the basic functionality seems there and it works
faster than ICQ Java, but progress is slow.
(Understandble, since the author is releasing it for free and doing it on
his spare time).

What bugs me about ICQ in general is that the database is not compatible!
Between ICQ Java, ICQ Win95 and ICQ/2, I have to request authorization
from my friends THREE times to get everything going. :(


Isaac

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From: weiss@tds.net                                     15-Dec-99 21:38:22
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 02:11:09
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: weiss@tds.net

In comp.os.os2.advocacy Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:45:35, andrew@netneurotic.de (Andrew J. Brehm) 
> wrote:

>> Why? What's wrong with Innoval?

> This is the company that quietly dropped support for, first, their 
> newsreader, then (not so quietly) BOTH their OS/2 mail clients. 
> Leaving loyal users out in the cold.

Not at all. Innoval made Post Road Mailer and Jstreet available for *free*
after they dropped out. That's pretty darn generous. They didn't have to.

And Jstreet is still being developed at http://www.polarbar.org.

Considering how even IBM has dropped development for Warp client and there is
no reasonably sized client market left for OS/2, why should any company
develop for OS/2 unless  profit is meaningless?

It's a sad fact. We OS/2 users can use the client OS but there's little
incentive anymore to develop for it.

Jeffrey

> -- 
> Bob Eager
> rde at tavi.co.uk
> PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
> 8580*6,
> 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: bobmcl@ibm.net                                    15-Dec-99 09:43:03
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 02:11:10
Subj: Re: FDISK corrupt before installing Warp 4.0

From: Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net>


Jordan Krim wrote:

> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-7UxD6dO2zdqD@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne 
Sunley) writes:
> >On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:17:32, jkrim@ecrix.com  (Jordan Krim) wrote:
> >
> >> I have the following hard disk setup according to
> >> FDISK under WARP 3.0:
> >>
> >> Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size
> >>
> >>     1 WIN 98       :    1    0c      1          0     3004
> >>     1 005de2bf     :    1    0a      2       3004        7 <- Bootmanager
> >>     1 WARP 3.0    C:    1    07      1       3012      258 <- HPFS
> >>     1 006638a0    D:    2    06      0       3271     1004 <- FAT share
> >>     1 00859920    E:    2    06      4       4275      258 <- Linux swap
> >>     1 RH LINUX    F:    2    06      5       4534     2000
> >>     1 00cc3240    G:    2    07      0       6534      502 <- HPFS
> >>     1 00dbe280    H:    2    06      0       7036      902 <- FAT share
> >>     1 00f81333    I:    2    07      0       7938      768 <- HPFS
> >>                                              **BIOS:8032MB
> >>     2 0000003f     :    1    00      0          0        7
> >>     2 00003f00    J:    2    07      0          7     3004 <- Win 98
filtered
> >>
> >> When I go to install WARP 4.0 (in partition G:), the FDISK
> >> is corrupted to the point I get this:
> >>
> >> Drive Name  Partition Vtype FStype Status   Start     Size
> >>
> >>     1 0000003f     :    1    0c      0          0     3004
> >>     1 005de2bf     :    1    0a      2       3004        7
> >>     1 005e2180    C:    1    07      4       3012      258
> >>     1 00663861     :    3    00      0       3271     5436
> >>                                              **BIOS:8032MB
> >>
> >> Nothing is formatted and BootManager is lost.  What can I do to get FDISK
> >> for WARP 4.0 the same as FDISK for WARP 3.0 so I can proceed with
installing
> >> WARP 4.0?
> >>
> >
> >That usually is a result of NOT updating the installation diskettes
> >with the IDEDASD.EXE update file.
> >
> >URL
> >
> >ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Lorne Sunley
> >
> But, in this case I did update Diskette #1 with IDEDASD.EXE contents.
> There is an IBM1S506.SNP on Diskette #1 that I have no idea what it is.
> I made no updates to Diskette #2.
>
> Jordan Krim
> jkrim@ecrix.com
> jkrim@mho.com

 I have struck the same symptoms, also when using the latest (DD001) drivers
on the diskettes.
It doesn't crash and burn, but does display the same **BIOS line. It also
misinterprets the
primary drive sequence. However, when I boot from hard drive the same software 
(fdisk etc)
works.
The only thing I can think of at the moment is that I did something wrong in
the original
partitioning of the disk and there is something wrong in the partition table.

--
------------------------------------------------------
Bob McLellan
The Little Blue Kiwi
OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland


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From: Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de                           16-Dec-99 09:40:19
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 10:28:06
Subj: ESS 1978 Setup

From: Stefan Pelz <Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de>

Hi all,

I'm using Daniela's modified ESS 1978 device driver (which is
originally for the 1968 I think). The drivers seems to load,
but mmpm does not work. I cannot play any sounds.

The hardware manager does not show an entry for the ESS,
forcing hardware-detection didn't help either.
Scan_pci shows the ESS device at PCI INT A, which is mapped
to IRQ 10.
Do I need to set the proper interrupt for the device driver?
What are the options for MASTR2E.SYS?
The multimedia installation program added a single line
to the config.sys:

device=c:\mmos2\mastr2e.sys N:MAEST$  (or the like ...)

Anybody got a working setup?

--
Regards,
    Stefan



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From: jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es                       16-Dec-99 11:32:03
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 10:28:06
Subj: Re: ESS 1978 Setup

From: jmandres <jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es>

Yes, I was succesful with Daniela's driver. It worked for my Toshiba
laptop with PCI Maestro sound card. The only flaw is the sound level,
quite low compared with the obtained in Win9x.

Regards

Stefan Pelz escribi¢:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm using Daniela's modified ESS 1978 device driver (which is
> originally for the 1968 I think). The drivers seems to load,
> but mmpm does not work. I cannot play any sounds.
>
> The hardware manager does not show an entry for the ESS,
> forcing hardware-detection didn't help either.
> Scan_pci shows the ESS device at PCI INT A, which is mapped
> to IRQ 10.
> Do I need to set the proper interrupt for the device driver?
> What are the options for MASTR2E.SYS?
> The multimedia installation program added a single line
> to the config.sys:
>
> device=c:\mmos2\mastr2e.sys N:MAEST$  (or the like ...)
>
> Anybody got a working setup?
>
> --
> Regards,
>     Stefan

--
Jos‚ Manuel Andr‚s
Instituto de Carboqu¡mica, CSIC
Mar¡a de Luna 12
50015 - Zaragoza
ESPA¥A / SPAIN
jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es or jmandres@tornado.icb.csic.es


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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        16-Dec-99 14:10:05
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 10:57:19
Subj: Re: MO Disk & HPFS

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <noynvevozarg.fmt8rm0.pminews@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, "Alex Blair"
<aablair@ibm.net> writes:
>I am trying again to get HPFS support for a Fujitsu Dynamo 640 SE drive with
>the n512dasd.flt file as suggested by others. All is well when using the
>Fujitsu driver (modisk.sys) except that it supports only FAT drives.
>
>I have tried this on 2 systems but cannot get either to function properly.
>The last attempts on both systems show that a removable device is virtualized
>at boot time. However, the device is recognized as an ATAPI CD ROM drive, not
>an MO drive (or is the n512dasd.flt virtualizing the CDROM drive a second
>time?). What might I be doing wrong?
>
>Here are the pertinent config.sys lines from the home office system in
>(relative) order of appearance in the config.sys file :
>
>REM ** Optical Drive **
>rem BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /SHARE
>BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
>
>REM ** For HPFS support on Optical Drives **
>BASEDEV=N512DASD.FLT /v
>
>REM /rf Switch for Removeable Media
>REM BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /rf
>
>REM /of Switch for Optical Media
>BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /of /rf
>REM ** I have tried also the /of swith alone **

Where did you see these switches for OS2DASD.DMD documented?

According to my command reference (WSeB):-

 'This device driver has no parameters'

>REM ** SCSI Card **
>BASEDEV=SIGSCSI.ADD
>BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
>
>REM ** Fujitsu 3.5" SCSI MO Disk Device Driver (ver 2.1 US) **
>rem DEVICE=\OS2\MODISK.SYS /R1
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>Alex Blair
>ablair@ibm.net
>
>
>

There is another basedev - OPTICAL.DMD. See if that offers you anything...

Also, I've had some 128MB disks for many years and some of those used
HPOFS.IFS - HPFS for optical disks. This is no longer supported, but in
desperation might be worth trying. Not sure where you would find it, though...

--
John

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From: Peter.Druck@tp2.ruhr-uni-bochum.de                16-Dec-99 16:29:18
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 10:57:20
Subj: Bootmanager and 9GB SCSI-Disk

From: Peter Druck <Peter.Druck@tp2.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

I'm trying to install the Bootmanager (Warp 4) on an 9GB 
SCSI-U2W HD. FDISK only shows 8 GB, the remaining 800 MB 
are unusable.
I was told that it is a problem with an outdated device 
driver. So I copied the new aic78u2.add to install-disk #1. 
Now it does not boot at all from floppy.
Is there any way to get the bootmanager running (and use 
all the disk)?

Peter

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From: jkrim@ecrix.com                                   16-Dec-99 16:18:11
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 13:28:02
Subj: Re: FDISK corrupt before installing Warp 4.0

From: jkrim@ecrix.com

In <3856D60A.EE3AE519@ibm.net>, Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net> writes:
>
> I have struck the same symptoms, also when using the latest (DD001) drivers
on the diskettes.
>It doesn't crash and burn, but does display the same **BIOS line. It also
misinterprets the
>primary drive sequence. However, when I boot from hard drive the same
software (fdisk etc)
>works.
>The only thing I can think of at the moment is that I did something wrong in
the original
>partitioning of the disk and there is something wrong in the partition table.
>
Bob,

You are right!  I noticed that the 'new' IBM1S506.ADD is in \os2\boot and it
works OK booting.  But, if I go from diskettes, it doesn't work.  I noticed
also that my BIOS says that the disk is 9032 MB or something like that.

It seems that I am wasting 1 GB of space :(  I probably used the 'old'
IBM1S506.ADD
which didn't support greater than 8 GB disks when I originally partitioned and
now it seems I am stuck with the lost space.

Jordan Krim
jkrim@ecrix.com
jkrim@mho.com

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From: sjaniska@inet.hr                                  16-Dec-99 21:43:22
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 16:52:16
Subj: Re: MO Disk & HPFS

From: "Sasa Janiska" <sjaniska@inet.hr>

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:42:58 -0500 (EST), Alex Blair wrote:

>I am trying again to get HPFS support for a Fujitsu Dynamo 640 SE drive with
>the n512dasd.flt file as suggested by others. All is well when using the
>Fujitsu driver (modisk.sys) except that it supports only FAT drives.
>

Here is that what works perfectly in my setup (both FAT and HPFS).
...
BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT
BASEDEV=N512DASD.FLT /v
BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /of /rf
...
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD 
REM (I'm using Fujitsu drive connected to Adaptec 1460 PCMCIA adapter)
...
BASEDEV=PCMCIA.SYS /P
BASEDEV=SS2PCIC2.SYS

>Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>REM ** SCSI Card **
>BASEDEV=SIGSCSI.ADD
>BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
Have you tried to change this into 
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
BASEDEV=SIGSCSI.ADD ?

I assume you have proper OS2DASD?
SIncerely,
Sasa



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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   16-Dec-99 11:52:06
  To: All                                               16-Dec-99 16:52:16
Subj: Re: MO Disk & HPFS

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

From the readme that came with Sam Detwiler's newDASD2,

"
------------------------------------
Parameters supported by OS2DASD.DMD
------------------------------------

/RF - "treat Removable media as a Fixed disk"
  This parameter will treat removable media as a fixed disk allowing
   it to be formatted as either FAT or HPFS and allowing removable
   disks to be partitioned.  See application notes above for a
   description of drive letter ordering.

/OF - "treat Optical disks as Fixed Disks"
   This parameter will cause all optical drives found to be treated as
   fixed disks. This will allow the media to be formatted as FAT or
   HPFS. Low level formatting of optical media is not supported at
   this time.  Media formatted previously by OPTICAL.SYS or
   OPTICAL.DMD will not be accessible (as described above in IMPORTANT
   NOTES #2). Media must be FDISK'd in order to be usable.

"

AFAIK, these are still true, despite the current 'no parameters' description.


On 16 Dec 1999 14:10:11 GMT, John Poltorak wrote:

:>  >
:>  >REM /rf Switch for Removeable Media
:>  >REM BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /rf
:>  >
:>  >REM /of Switch for Optical Media
:>  >BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /of /rf
:>  >REM ** I have tried also the /of swith alone **
:>  
:>  Where did you see these switches for OS2DASD.DMD documented?
:>  
:>  According to my command reference (WSeB):-
:>  
:>   'This device driver has no parameters'

Peter

*/------------------------------------------------------
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Wadsack Management; Madison WI USA
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From: N9TA@worldnet.att.net                             16-Dec-99 19:25:01
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 03:47:21
Subj: Audio on NM2200 (Neomagic) ??

From: Fred Bennett N9TA <N9TA@worldnet.att.net>

    Hi Gang

This may already have been covered here but:

Can anyone help me with  getting audio out of my
new wiz-bang laptop???

                        Conditions:
OS2, Warp 4.0
Sony PCG F150 Laptop.
300Mhz Pentium II with 32Mb of RAM.
Has a Neomagic 256AV (Neomagic PN= NM2200)
This laptop has a chip that handles both video AND
audio.....I've got the video working but not the audio.
I've tried the IBM Thinkpad 390 driver (also uses a NM2200),
but it worked NOT !!

There are several "things" on the PCI bus on this box, and
OS2 Warp4 hasn't seemed to have found ANY of them.

            Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
            Fred Bennett         Ham radio call  N9TA

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     16-Dec-99 21:32:27
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 03:47:21
Subj: Re: Bootmanager and 9GB SCSI-Disk

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:29:36 +0100, Peter Druck wrote:

->I'm trying to install the Bootmanager (Warp 4) on an 9GB 
->SCSI-U2W HD. FDISK only shows 8 GB, the remaining 800 MB 
->are unusable.
->I was told that it is a problem with an outdated device 
->driver. So I copied the new aic78u2.add to install-disk #1. 
->Now it does not boot at all from floppy.
->Is there any way to get the bootmanager running (and use 
->all the disk)?

Does it show 8GB == 8032MB which is a BIOS limit or does it show 8GB as
8500MB which is really 9.1Gb in hard disk manufacturer terms. They count
using million million bytes where FDISK and CHKDSK count using 1024 x 1024
x 1024. The latter choice means that 9,100,000,000 bytes shows up around
about 8600MB.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        17-Dec-99 01:38:19
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 03:47:22
Subj: IBM PS/2 E & Socket Services

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

I'm trying to get a PCMCIA token ring card working under OS/2 on a PS/2 E
and hitting a few problems...

LANTRAN.LOG says

Token-Ring Credit Card Inserted in socket 03.

followed by

A Token-Ring Credit Card is not present in a socket

Does this mean I have the wrong version of socket services loaded ?

What else could be causing the problem?...

The machine itself will boot via RIPL without any problems or changes of
configuration

--
John

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From: miket@interact.net.au                             17-Dec-99 11:41:14
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 03:47:22
Subj: XFree86 and Warp Server for e-Business? XF86sup.sys message on bootup..

From: Michael Taylor <miket@interact.net.au>

When the XF86Sup.sys loads it reports that it needs Fp17 or better
for all functions to be available.

Is this a problem? Will XFree86 work properly?

I haven't got it to work as I had a Trap in CONSOLE$ which was
happening whenever I shutdoen WSeB. I have reinstalled and it
has stopped happening but I don't have TCPIP etc installed at 
the moment so haven't retried XFree86/2.

I am testing WSeB in preparation for my new SMP PC at work.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

Michael Taylor
Senior Technical Specialist
Search Software America
PO Box 22, Braddon
Canberra, ACT 2612, Australia

Michael_Taylor@searchsoftware.com
http://www.searchsoftware.com

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        17-Dec-99 02:00:22
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 03:47:22
Subj: Re: XFree86 and Warp Server for e-Business? XF86sup.sys message on boot

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <385AAE08.9FE8207@interact.net.au>, Michael Taylor <miket@interact.net.au>
writes:
>When the XF86Sup.sys loads it reports that it needs Fp17 or better
>for all functions to be available.
>
>Is this a problem? Will XFree86 work properly?
>
>I haven't got it to work as I had a Trap in CONSOLE$ which was
>happening whenever I shutdoen WSeB. I have reinstalled and it
>has stopped happening but I don't have TCPIP etc installed at 
>the moment so haven't retried XFree86/2.

This has been fixed in the last few months. Your XF86SUP.SYS should say
v1.511 on bootup. It's available from the XFree86OS/2 home page. 

>I am testing WSeB in preparation for my new SMP PC at work.
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Mick
>
>Michael Taylor
>Senior Technical Specialist
>Search Software America
>PO Box 22, Braddon
>Canberra, ACT 2612, Australia
>
>Michael_Taylor@searchsoftware.com
>http://www.searchsoftware.com

--
John

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From: miket@interact.net.au                             17-Dec-99 14:04:20
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 03:47:22
Subj: Re: XFree86 and Warp Server for e-Business? XF86sup.sys message on 

From: Michael Taylor <miket@interact.net.au>

Okay got it - it was well hidden! I should have looked at the bugs
list first :-( It seems the trap in CONSOLE$ on shutdown and when trying
to run XFree86/2 was due to the old xf86sup.sys!

John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> In <385AAE08.9FE8207@interact.net.au>, Michael Taylor
<miket@interact.net.au> writes:
> >When the XF86Sup.sys loads it reports that it needs Fp17 or better
> >for all functions to be available.
> >
> >Is this a problem? Will XFree86 work properly?
> >
> >I haven't got it to work as I had a Trap in CONSOLE$ which was
> >happening whenever I shutdoen WSeB. I have reinstalled and it
> >has stopped happening but I don't have TCPIP etc installed at
> >the moment so haven't retried XFree86/2.
> 
> This has been fixed in the last few months. Your XF86SUP.SYS should say
> v1.511 on bootup. It's available from the XFree86OS/2 home page.
> 
> >I am testing WSeB in preparation for my new SMP PC at work.
> >
> >--
> >Regards,
> >Mick
> >
> >Michael Taylor
> >Senior Technical Specialist
> >Search Software America
> >PO Box 22, Braddon
> >Canberra, ACT 2612, Australia
> >
> >Michael_Taylor@searchsoftware.com
> >http://www.searchsoftware.com
> 
> --
> John

-- 
Regards,
Mick

Michael Taylor
Senior Technical Specialist
Search Software America
PO Box 22, Braddon
Canberra, ACT 2612, Australia

Michael_Taylor@searchsoftware.com
http://www.searchsoftware.com

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From: jbrush@aros.net                                   16-Dec-99 21:23:09
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 03:47:22
Subj: An OS/2 ISP

From: jbrush@aros.net

http://safe123.net/os2/access.htm



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From: Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de                           17-Dec-99 11:52:13
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 10:29:26
Subj: Re: ESS 1978 Setup

From: Stefan Pelz <Stefan.Pelz@orthogon.de>

Jos‚,

> Yes, I was succesful with Daniela's driver. It worked for my Toshiba
> laptop with PCI Maestro sound card. The only flaw is the sound level,
> quite low compared with the obtained in Win9x.

So what does you entry in Config.Sys look like?
Which info does the hardware-manager show about the ESS
(IRQ, DMA, etc)?

Thanks.
--
Regards,
    Stefan

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From: Peter.Druck@tp2.ruhr-uni-bochum.de                17-Dec-99 14:36:29
  To: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     17-Dec-99 10:29:26
Subj: Re: Bootmanager and 9GB SCSI-Disk

To: Trevor Hemsley <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>
From: Peter Druck <Peter.Druck@tp2.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Trevor,
the added partition sizes are 8023 MB (bootmanager 7, partition 1
1000 MB, partition 2 2004 MB and partition 3 5012). Partition 3
occupies what was left.

Peter

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From: rogers@unbsj.ca                                   17-Dec-99 17:00:06
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:15
Subj: modem under warp v 3.0

From: Sean Rogers <rogers@unbsj.ca>

I am in the process of installing Warp 3.0 on my machine.  I can not get
my modem to reach a connect speed of greater than 1200 baud.  Any ideas
why?

Thanks in advance


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From: nospam_timur@tabi.org                             17-Dec-99 17:37:22
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:15
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2 (Creative PCI 128?)

From: Timur Tabi <nospam_timur@tabi.org>

In article <GmI%3.6937$VA6.33549@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
  "Kerwin" <kerwinlu@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I saw an article in Taiwan's OS/2 newsgroup as few weeks ago,
> they said that because Creative&Aureal released their driver source
code,
> one company called Theta Band Software decided
> that they are going to write OS/2 drivers for Creative&Aureal's chips.
> But they are not going to release the source code.
> And, if there are any other companies who want to write OS/2 drivers
for
> these chips,
> Thera Band Software will never write the OS/2 drivers again
anymore.....
>
> Does anybody know it's ture or not?

It is, kinda.  TBS said they would look into writing a driver, but time
constraints from other projects would be an issue.  Everything else is
true, though.  Theta Band Software has a "no-compete" business model.
They don't release software that competes with other software.  In the
OS/2 market, releasing a product that competes with another product is
suicide.

--
Remove "nospam_" from my email address when replying
Timur "too sexy for my code" Tabi, timur@tabi.org


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: irun@worldnet.att.net                             17-Dec-99 12:20:26
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:16
Subj: aptiva

From: "charles ross" <irun@worldnet.att.net>

I have read that  there is  a kit to fix aptivas so that i can install os/2
can you help me to find this ? thank you charlie


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From: merlins@ibm.net                                   17-Dec-99 17:17:15
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: Bootmanager and 9GB SCSI-Disk

From: Meinolf Sondermann <merlins@ibm.net>

Hello Peter,

Peter Druck wrote:
> 
> Trevor,
> the added partition sizes are 8023 MB (bootmanager 7, partition 1
> 1000 MB, partition 2 2004 MB and partition 3 5012). Partition 3
> occupies what was left.
> 
> Peter

there are two ways to access a SCSI-harddisk:

1.) via the appropoate driver for your SCSI-Card

2.) via BIOS using INT13H .

It seems that your system is using the latter one and is thus
limited by your Mainboard's BIOS .
To advice , what driver to use, you should tell us which 
SCSI-Card you are using. The aic78u2.add will only work with
some Adaptec Cards ( AIC7890-chip I think ).

Bye/2
Meinolf

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From: ewilson@usa.net                                   17-Dec-99 13:28:26
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: MO Disk & HPFS

From: work <ewilson@usa.net>

I have been successfully using the Fujitsu 640SE drive for quite some
time on OS/2. The disks are partitioned (1 partition) and formatted for
HPFS. I have a mixture or 128, 230, and 540 disks. All working great and
very reliable. So what you are attempting is very possible!

You need to disable by rem'ing out all OEM drivers for this device.  
Only use the drivers from Sam Detwiler's package NEWDASD2. I think these
drivers have now been incorporated into the fixpacks (Driver fixpacks).
Here are the pertinent statements from my config.sys:

BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /rf /of               (these switches came from
                                           Sam's package) 
rem DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OPTICAL.DMD /V
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD                       (running on PCMCIA card in
                                           thinkpad)  

 

Alex Blair wrote:
> 
> I am trying again to get HPFS support for a Fujitsu Dynamo 640 SE drive with
> the n512dasd.flt file as suggested by others. All is well when using the
> Fujitsu driver (modisk.sys) except that it supports only FAT drives.
> 
> I have tried this on 2 systems but cannot get either to function properly.
> The last attempts on both systems show that a removable device is
virtualized
> at boot time. However, the device is recognized as an ATAPI CD ROM drive,
not
> an MO drive (or is the n512dasd.flt virtualizing the CDROM drive a second
> time?). What might I be doing wrong?
> 
> Here are the pertinent config.sys lines from the home office system in
> (relative) order of appearance in the config.sys file :
> 
> REM ** Optical Drive **
> rem BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /SHARE
> BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
> 
> REM ** For HPFS support on Optical Drives **
> BASEDEV=N512DASD.FLT /v
> 
> REM /rf Switch for Removeable Media
> REM BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /rf
> 
> REM /of Switch for Optical Media
> BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /of /rf
> REM ** I have tried also the /of swith alone **
> 
> REM ** SCSI Card **
> BASEDEV=SIGSCSI.ADD
> BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
> 
> REM ** Fujitsu 3.5" SCSI MO Disk Device Driver (ver 2.1 US) **
> rem DEVICE=\OS2\MODISK.SYS /R1
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Alex Blair
> ablair@ibm.net

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From: ewilson@usa.net                                   17-Dec-99 13:35:09
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: MO Disk & HPFS

From: work <ewilson@usa.net>

Forgot to add. Also in the NEWDASD package were:

BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT
BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD


 

work wrote:
> 
> I have been successfully using the Fujitsu 640SE drive for quite some
> time on OS/2. The disks are partitioned (1 partition) and formatted for
> HPFS. I have a mixture or 128, 230, and 540 disks. All working great and
> very reliable. So what you are attempting is very possible!
> 
> You need to disable by rem'ing out all OEM drivers for this device.
> Only use the drivers from Sam Detwiler's package NEWDASD2. I think these
> drivers have now been incorporated into the fixpacks (Driver fixpacks).
> Here are the pertinent statements from my config.sys:
> 
> BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /rf /of               (these switches came from
>                                            Sam's package)
> rem DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OPTICAL.DMD /V
> BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
> BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD                       (running on PCMCIA card in
>                                            thinkpad)
> 
> 
> 
> Alex Blair wrote:
> >
> > I am trying again to get HPFS support for a Fujitsu Dynamo 640 SE drive
with
> > the n512dasd.flt file as suggested by others. All is well when using the
> > Fujitsu driver (modisk.sys) except that it supports only FAT drives.
> >
> > I have tried this on 2 systems but cannot get either to function properly.
> > The last attempts on both systems show that a removable device is
virtualized
> > at boot time. However, the device is recognized as an ATAPI CD ROM drive,
not
> > an MO drive (or is the n512dasd.flt virtualizing the CDROM drive a second
> > time?). What might I be doing wrong?
> >
> > Here are the pertinent config.sys lines from the home office system in
> > (relative) order of appearance in the config.sys file :
> >
> > REM ** Optical Drive **
> > rem BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /SHARE
> > BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
> >
> > REM ** For HPFS support on Optical Drives **
> > BASEDEV=N512DASD.FLT /v
> >
> > REM /rf Switch for Removeable Media
> > REM BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /rf
> >
> > REM /of Switch for Optical Media
> > BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /of /rf
> > REM ** I have tried also the /of swith alone **
> >
> > REM ** SCSI Card **
> > BASEDEV=SIGSCSI.ADD
> > BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
> >
> > REM ** Fujitsu 3.5" SCSI MO Disk Device Driver (ver 2.1 US) **
> > rem DEVICE=\OS2\MODISK.SYS /R1
> >
> > Any help is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Alex Blair
> > ablair@ibm.net

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     17-Dec-99 19:22:06
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: Bootmanager and 9GB SCSI-Disk

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:36:58 +0100, Peter Druck wrote:

->Trevor,
->the added partition sizes are 8023 MB (bootmanager 7, partition 1
->1000 MB, partition 2 2004 MB and partition 3 5012). Partition 3
->occupies what was left.

I agree with Meinholf that you appear to be accessing the disk via
IBMINT13.I13 instead of the correct driver. However one complication may
be that OS/2 tries desperately to respect the original partitioning scheme
and geometry that was used when the disk was first partitioned. If you did
your initial partitioning from a boot that was using IBMINT13.I13 and
subsequently switched to the correct driver for later boots then the
geometry used by IBMINT13.I13 will be written into the partition table and
OS/2 will try to use it in preference to that reported by the new driver.

The only way around this is to delete all partitions from the disk (with
attendant loss of all data) and then reboot the machine. After the reboot
- which must be using the correct driver for the controller - you can then
repartition as you want.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     17-Dec-99 19:23:09
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: I'm lost... What's the TCPIP Stack Scoop?

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:16:54 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:

->Version numbers of TCP/IP protocol drivers:
->   SOCKETS.SYS: 5.3008
->   AFOS2.SYS:   5.3001
->   AFINET.SYS:  5.3006
->
->I've applied some fixes, but I'm not sure how up-todate this is now.

This is WR08620

[F:\rexxcmds]inetver
Version numbers of TCP/IP protocol drivers:
   SOCKETS.SYS: 6.2001
   AFOS2.SYS:   6.2000
   AFINET.SYS:  6.2002


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: klcroxen@is10.fas.harvard.edu                     17-Dec-99 20:27:27
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: modem under warp v 3.0

From: klcroxen@is10.fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen)

In article <385A6BA5.AB43640E@unbsj.ca>, Sean Rogers wrote:
>I am in the process of installing Warp 3.0 on my machine.  I can not get
>my modem to reach a connect speed of greater than 1200 baud.  Any ideas
>why?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
First off Warp 3 out-of-the box will only support speeds up to 
57600 bps (a 14,400 modem). To support faster modems at full-
speed you'll either need the updated com.sys driver found in any 
of the later service packs (say fixpack 32 or above) or you can 
use a 3rd-party com driver like Ray Gwinn's shareware SIO.sys 
available at HOBBES. But to the matter at hand...

When a modem in Warp 3 sticks at 1200, it's a pretty good chance 
that that particular modem needs to have the port speed set for 
it by issuing the MODE COMx command from an OS/2 command prompt
(where x=the port your modem is on). If your modem is on com1, 
try issuing the command MODE COM1 57600        OS/2 should reply 
"asynchronous communications mode set". Then fire up the modem 
to see whether it's any zippier.

If issuing the mode command solves the 1200 speed problem, you 
can set OS/2 to issue the command at bootup by adding the line 
to your config.sys  CALL=C:\OS2\MODE.COM COM1 57600

Check to make sure you use the correct path on your machine to 
the mode command, and that you use the full filename plus 
extension. If you later get a higher-octane com.sys, or shift 
over to using sio.sys for your com needs, this value may be set at 
115200, rather than 57600

Good luck,

--Kevin

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From: lyn@zolotek.REMOVE.com                            17-Dec-99 21:42:18
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:17
Subj: Xfree86/gimp and Cyrillic?

From: lyn@zolotek.REMOVE.com (Lyn St George)

I have Xfree86 3.3.3 and Gimp 1.0.2, and would like to create some 
Russian text graphics in the Gimp. Question is, how do I use cyrillic 
fonts in Xfree86? In os/2 apps, such as Embellish, it's dead easy with
a little utility which switches the keyboard to upper ascii, and thus 
uses the upper character set in fonts which have it. I've hunted all 
through Holger Veit's site, the mailing list, xfree86.org, gimp.org, 
and so far have missed whatever exists. 

Does anyone have any ideas on doing this?

Cheers
Lyn 

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From: tgal@pobox.com                                    17-Dec-99 13:41:09
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:17
Subj: Re: I'm lost... What's the TCPIP Stack Scoop?

From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com>

Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:16:54 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> ->Version numbers of TCP/IP protocol drivers:
> ->   SOCKETS.SYS: 5.3008
> ->   AFOS2.SYS:   5.3001
> ->   AFINET.SYS:  5.3006
> ->
> ->I've applied some fixes, but I'm not sure how up-todate this is now.
> 
> This is WR08620
> 
> [F:\rexxcmds]inetver
> Version numbers of TCP/IP protocol drivers:
>    SOCKETS.SYS: 6.2001
>    AFOS2.SYS:   6.2000
>    AFINET.SYS:  6.2002
> 
> Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)

But I think 8620 requires that you have installed WR08610
previously.

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     17-Dec-99 22:30:04
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:17
Subj: Re: I'm lost... What's the TCPIP Stack Scoop?

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:41:18 -0800, Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.) wrote:

->But I think 8620 requires that you have installed WR08610
->previously.

It requires either WR08600 or WR08610. WR08600 is the MPTS that comes with
TCP/IP v4.1 so he'll have at least that already.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: dgwhiz*no-more-spam*@earthling.net                17-Dec-99 22:04:29
  To: All                                               17-Dec-99 20:07:17
Subj: Re: Folders in Popup

From: dgwhiz*no-more-spam*@earthling.net (DG)

    Thanks for mentioning Xfolder. It's a great freeware app
and I use it to add program as well as folder objects to my
context [popup] menus.

    However, in a few instances I do indeed use another
method to open folders-- not just programs-- from a RMB
click in my popup menus.

 
    It only requires 3 lines in a short CMD file [the first
2 lines here are just comments]:

/* OpenDetails.CMD REXXX program to open a folder from
pop-up menu */
/* In Folder object's PARAMS field, enter pathname of folder
+ % */
parse arg command
call RxFuncAdd 'SysSetObjectData', 'RexxUtil',
'SysSetObjectData';
call SysSetObjectData command, "OPEN=DETAILS";


    Or, if you wish to open the folder in Icon view, then
sub "ICONS" for "DETAILS" above and save that script with
the "OpenIcon.CMD" filename or something similar.

    Store the CMD file and variations in any convenient
directory. Then you may create multiple desktop objects that
each refer to the same CMD file. The difference between each
object is in the Parameters field, where you enter the
complete pathnames of the folders you wish to open.
For example, the "Program" page, which is the first Notebook
page, could look like this for one typical object:

[Path and file name]
       F:\Menus\Scripts\OpenDetails.CMD

[Parameters]
       D:\Tools\ %


    Perhaps you would name this sample object "OpenTools"
and you could give it a pretty icon of your choice. The
important thing is that clicking on the OpenTools object
would run the CMD file and thus open the Tools folder in a
Details view...

    ...and that's the trick you use for opening folders from
your popup menu! You just add such objects to the "Menu"
page of your Properties Notebook and then you can open any
folders [such as Tools in the example] from the popup menu.
Adding the CMD file object overcomes the limitation you
ordinarily would have of opening just programs from that
popup menu.

--
DG


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