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From: Markus.Quandt@gmx.net                             04-Dec-99 14:52:05
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Re: When 32bit CHKDSK first came out...

From: Markus Quandt <Markus.Quandt@gmx.net>

Well, since Trevor's comments usually are 'final' (to the matter in
question) I'll buy this explanation. It fits in with the Adaptec
driver's general slowness when initialising, even without CHKDSK (only
two devices here!).

The workaround suggested isn't really pleasing, though, even with a
maintenance partition being such a good thing in general. I shall
consider creating one, but what if you're short on primary partitions?
(Not my problem, but just wondering...)

Anyway, thanks very much for clarifying this issue!
MQ

PS.: There IS an older version of the driver than I'm using (dated June
1999 or so), dating from 1998, as I mentionend in my first posting. The
newer one is supplied by the DDPak site, the *older* one is to be found
on Adaptec's FTP server! I didn't have the guts to try the old one -
would anyone know if it might help with my problem?
MQ


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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               04-Dec-99 17:40:22
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Re: OS/2 and NTFS on the same machine

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

Eyal Kattan wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can OS/2 Warp Server for e-business read NTFS partitions
> on the same machine (I'm using OS/2 boot manager) ? and if yes, can
> anyone tell me the secret
> how to do it ?
> 
 See an answer 3 questions above yours :-)  ALternative,
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/ is full of the stuff.

Regards
Charles

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        04-Dec-99 19:06:19
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:19
Subj: Missing boot blob

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

I have just attempted to install Aurora on a single partition SCSI disk, but
the
system would not re-boot after the initial part of the installation has
finished.
No boot blob appears, although when I boot up from disk all the required files
appear to have been installed - OS2BOOT, OS2KRNL, OS2LDR, CONFIG.SYS.
LVM shows the volume as startable.

Can anyone suggest what is missing here?

BTW, I did a low level format before attempting to install Aurora.

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From: vlad@mail.netwave.de                              04-Dec-99 20:42:09
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:21
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: vlad@mail.netwave.de (Vlad Berditchevskiy)

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:09:47, osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) wrote:

> >How about the other way around?  Is there perhaps a
> >driver to get OS/2 to read and write NTFS partitions?
> 
> Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997: 
> 
> ntfs_003.zip 
>      NTFS IFS (file system driver) for OS/2 

This is NOT an IFS! This archive includes some tools to access NTFS 
partitions in read only mode (list directories, copy files etc).

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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             04-Dec-99 22:19:24
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:22
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:09:47, osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) wrote:

> In article <826h7o$npm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Stephane Charette
<charette@writeme.com> says:
> >
> >I have to also use NT 4.0 on my OS/2 development
> >workstation at work.  Is there a method by which I
> >can get NT 4.0 to read and write my HPFS partitions?
> 
> Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997: 
> 
> hpfs_nt4.zip 
>      file size: 104 K (106465 bytes)
>      file date: Jan 01,1997
>      path: util/diskutil/ 
> 
>      Allows Windows NT 4 to read OS/2 HPFS drives 
> 
> makes the NT4.0 registry works. You need hpfs support file
> from NT3.51 package. There might be even some troubles.

> Osmo

There are atleast 2 others around, on Hobbes I think.
hpfsnt.zip 850119 bytes, didn't seem to set up the registry correctly &
hpfsnt.zip 588637 bytes, installed and works fine.
Both of these include pinball.sys from NT3.51.

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From: gsf@ibm.net                                       04-Dec-99 21:53:21
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:22
Subj: OS/2 Install can't find CD-ROM drive

From: Gilbert Saint-flour <gsf@ibm.net>

Hello:

I'm trying to install OS/2 on an IBM PC 750 (PCI/MCA 6886-4CH) which has a
540MB Maxtor drive and a BTC 16X IDE CD-ROM.   Installation fails with a
message stating that IBMIDECD.FLT doesn't load, apparently, because it
failed to recognize my IDE CD-ROM drive.  The drive works fine under Win95
on the same machine.  I tried a 2nd drive (GoldStar 32X) which works fine
with 95 also but isn't recognized by OS/2 install either.  

This machine has on-board IDE; 4CH models originally came with a SCSI
controller and hard-drive, but the SCSI stuff is no longer there and I'd
like to set it up with IDE, at least for the time being.  The CD-ROM drive
was initially slave on IDE0; I changed it to be master on IDE1, which
didn't help with my problem.  

I tried with Warp Connect and Warp 4, using the original installation
disks, then with the Disk 1 images from the October release of the WarpUP!
CD, and got the same symptoms in all cases (IBMIDECD not loaded).  This is
a 4 year-old machine with a 540MB hard-drive, I shouldn't need the latest
IDE drivers, should I ?

I added the /V switch to IBM1S506, which had no visible effect; I suspect
IBM1S506 isn't used because this is an ABIOS machine.

I could copy the CD-ROM to the hard-disk and run the install from there,
but I need the CD-ROM to work on OS/2, so I feel I have to resolve this
problem one way or another.

Any idea anyone?

Thanks for your help.

 Gilbert Saint-flour



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From: dunmunro@direct.ca                                05-Dec-99 02:03:10
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro)

If you use pinball.sys make sure you keep your hpfs partitions smaller
than 4gigs.

Duncan

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 22:19:49 +0100, dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave
Parsons) wrote:

>On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:09:47, osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) wrote:
>
>> In article <826h7o$npm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Stephane Charette
<charette@writeme.com> says:
>> >
>> >I have to also use NT 4.0 on my OS/2 development
>> >workstation at work.  Is there a method by which I
>> >can get NT 4.0 to read and write my HPFS partitions?
>> 
>> Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997: 
>> 
>> hpfs_nt4.zip 
>>      file size: 104 K (106465 bytes)
>>      file date: Jan 01,1997
>>      path: util/diskutil/ 
>> 
>>      Allows Windows NT 4 to read OS/2 HPFS drives 
>> 
>> makes the NT4.0 registry works. You need hpfs support file
>> from NT3.51 package. There might be even some troubles.
>
>> Osmo
>
>There are atleast 2 others around, on Hobbes I think.
>hpfsnt.zip 850119 bytes, didn't seem to set up the registry correctly &
>hpfsnt.zip 588637 bytes, installed and works fine.
>Both of these include pinball.sys from NT3.51.
>
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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        05-Dec-99 02:05:26
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: VCU

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

I have not seen any FM to RTFM, but suspect TFM would prevent me
from screwing up partition tables...

Any pointers to AFM on VCU would be very helpful.

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From: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au                          05-Dec-99 02:05:07
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au

No matther what I do, I cannot get rid of a file in \mptn\bin directory. The
file name
is "SETUP*CMD,sss".

I'm not able to drag the file to a floppy or any other partition on the hard
disk. Doing so
OS2 tells me it can't find drive "C". If I use del "SETUP*CMD,sss" is says
"Deleting C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"
Well I can tell you the file IS there.

It does not seem to have any effect on the file system. My problem is that
it's there and I 
can't get rid if it. It's on a HPFS Warp 4 partition.
 
Anyone have any clues please on how to rid my drive of this file???

 bruce@os2box.omen.com.au




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From: joehenley@worldnet.att.net                        04-Dec-99 21:04:12
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: "Joseph O. Henley" <joehenley@worldnet.att.net>

Bruce,

Try DFSee.  It's on Hobbes.  As a last resort, do an XCopy of everything
but that file to a backup partition, then reformat the original
partition.  Kinda using an ABomb for a gnat, but if you're
desperate......

Joe

PS:  You said you tried to drag it....  did you try a simple move
command to a floppy?



bruce@os2box.omen.com.au wrote:
> 
> No matther what I do, I cannot get rid of a file in \mptn\bin directory. The 
file name
> is "SETUP*CMD,sss".
> 
> I'm not able to drag the file to a floppy or any other partition on the hard 
disk. Doing so
> OS2 tells me it can't find drive "C". If I use del "SETUP*CMD,sss" is says
"Deleting C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
> SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"
> Well I can tell you the file IS there.
> 
> It does not seem to have any effect on the file system. My problem is that
it's there and I
> can't get rid if it. It's on a HPFS Warp 4 partition.
> 
> Anyone have any clues please on how to rid my drive of this file???
> 
>  bruce@os2box.omen.com.au

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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               05-Dec-99 02:57:08
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: WSeB, chage of cdrom

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

Hi,

On WSeB I had to change from a SCSI cdrom to an IDE one to free a
channel.
The cdrom is both cdroms were Toshiba, the IDE is model 

I have tried reinstalling support for a number of cdroms without
success.  I remember there was something to do with Logical Volume
manager and the drive letter 
it assign to the cdrom.

Any ideas.  I will soon try to go back to the SCSI one.

TIA.
Charles



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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               05-Dec-99 02:28:22
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: Missing boot blob

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> I have just attempted to install Aurora on a single partition SCSI disk, but 
the
> system would not re-boot after the initial part of the installation has
finished.
> No boot blob appears, although when I boot up from disk all the required
files
> appear to have been installed - OS2BOOT, OS2KRNL, OS2LDR, CONFIG.SYS.
> LVM shows the volume as startable.
> 
> Can anyone suggest what is missing here?
Sorry John, no direct help with aurora (I only installed once or twice
and moved to WSeB) is your controller Adaptec?  I had problems like you
describe when I used to use adaptec controllers.  The answer was to turn
caching off (processor., memory etc).  Warp 3 and 4 hung on me upon the
first reboot or there abouts.

I don't think it is your hard disk as such.

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From: cwr@cts.com                                       05-Dec-99 07:06:06
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: When 32bit CHKDSK first came out...

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote:
: On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:48:20, Charles Christacopoulos 
: <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:

:> > ...there was a special option or driver to make it run faster on very
:> > large hard drives, wasn't there?

: Not quite. The new version runs faster because it does a single pass. 
: With the driver, it can also do large hard drives...where it couldn't 
: before. These are two separate issues.

: To use the driver, add the line

:     BASEDEV=CHKDSK.SYS

: to CONFIG.SYS. This provides an interface for acquiring additional 
: memory for CHKDSK (if needed) AT BOOT TIME. At all other times CHKDSK 
: uses virtual memory and it makes no difference.

: If memory provided by CHKDSK.SYS is used, then a reboot is forced 
: after the check is complete, this being necessaru to reclaim the 
: memory. A bit alarming, but fine!


The standalone fix for chkdsk apparently needed this driver, but 
does the later version, included in Fixpack whatever, still use
it?  I've got it commented out of config.sys at present, and
chkdsk still seems as quick.


will
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From: thaimann@dmreg.infi.net                           05-Dec-99 03:44:13
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 05:18:05
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: "Terry Haimann" <thaimann@dmreg.infi.net>

You are going to need to start an os2 command prompt and issue the attrib
command.
I'll make a bet that it's attribute is read only.  With the attrib command
you can change it
to a normal file.  Try issuing help attrib and read how to do this.  In the
bad old dos days
b4 os2 I had to write a program to delete a file that was read only, since my
version of dos 
wouldn't do it.

Hope this helps,  Terry

On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 02:05:15 GMT, bruce@os2box.omen.com.au wrote:

>No matther what I do, I cannot get rid of a file in \mptn\bin directory. The
file name
>is "SETUP*CMD,sss".
>
>I'm not able to drag the file to a floppy or any other partition on the hard
disk. Doing so
>OS2 tells me it can't find drive "C". If I use del "SETUP*CMD,sss" is says
"Deleting C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
>SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"
>Well I can tell you the file IS there.
>
>It does not seem to have any effect on the file system. My problem is that
it's there and I 
>can't get rid if it. It's on a HPFS Warp 4 partition.
> 
>Anyone have any clues please on how to rid my drive of this file???
>
> bruce@os2box.omen.com.au
>
>
>
>



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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        05-Dec-99 11:30:04
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:07
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <c1.2c.2T8FMv$00w@transit.omen.com.au>, bruce@os2box.omen.com.au writes:
>No matther what I do, I cannot get rid of a file in \mptn\bin directory. The
file name
>is "SETUP*CMD,sss".

What happens when you try 

dir ??????????sss 

If this finds the file, maybe try 

del ??????????sss 

at a command prompt...

>I'm not able to drag the file to a floppy or any other partition on the hard
disk. Doing so
>OS2 tells me it can't find drive "C". If I use del "SETUP*CMD,sss" is says
"Deleting C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
>SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"
>Well I can tell you the file IS there.
>
>It does not seem to have any effect on the file system. My problem is that
it's there and I 
>can't get rid if it. It's on a HPFS Warp 4 partition.
> 
>Anyone have any clues please on how to rid my drive of this file???
>
> bruce@os2box.omen.com.au
>
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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        05-Dec-99 11:23:06
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:08
Subj: Re: Missing boot blob

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <3849CDDD.7FB78EA9@dundee.ac.uk>, Charles Christacopoulos
<c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk> writes:
>John Poltorak wrote:
>> 
>> I have just attempted to install Aurora on a single partition SCSI disk,
but the
>> system would not re-boot after the initial part of the installation has
finished.
>> No boot blob appears, although when I boot up from disk all the required
files
>> appear to have been installed - OS2BOOT, OS2KRNL, OS2LDR, CONFIG.SYS.
>> LVM shows the volume as startable.
>> 
>> Can anyone suggest what is missing here?
>Sorry John, no direct help with aurora (I only installed once or twice
>and moved to WSeB) is your controller Adaptec?

Charles,

I am actually talking about WSeB - I just prefer the name Aurora... and yes
the controller is an Adaptec AHA-2940.

>  I had problems like you
>describe when I used to use adaptec controllers.  The answer was to turn
>caching off (processor., memory etc).  Warp 3 and 4 hung on me upon the
>first reboot or there abouts.
>
>I don't think it is your hard disk as such.

That sounds right, I have tried about five different disks. It looks like some
misconfiguration/conflict between LVM and the Adaptec controller, but
I can't imagine what.... I keeping get msgs about partition tables being
corrupt
when I start LVM. This is after I've used LVM to create partitions in the
first
place and attempted to install Aurora.

>
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     05-Dec-99 12:58:20
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:08
Subj: Re: When 32bit CHKDSK first came out...

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On 5 Dec 1999 07:06:13 GMT, Will Rose wrote:

->: If memory provided by CHKDSK.SYS is used, then a reboot is forced 
->: after the check is complete, this being necessaru to reclaim the 
->: memory. A bit alarming, but fine!
->
->The standalone fix for chkdsk apparently needed this driver, but 
->does the later version, included in Fixpack whatever, still use
->it?  I've got it commented out of config.sys at present, and
->chkdsk still seems as quick.

It makes no difference to the _speed_. At this point in the boot the
kernel is only able to provide 16MB RAM to the auto-CHKDSK and this limits
the maximum size of partition that can be processed. CHKDSK.SYS is a quick
and dirty workaround to getting more memory so that bigger partitions can
be processed. If you had this problem then CHKDSK would bomb out with an
error message about lack of memory.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               05-Dec-99 16:09:24
  To: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au                          05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

To: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

bruce@os2box.omen.com.au wrote:
> 
> No matther what I do, I cannot get rid of a file in \mptn\bin directory. The 
file name
> is "SETUP*CMD,sss".
> 
> I'm not able to drag the file to a floppy or any other partition on the hard 
disk. Doing so
> OS2 tells me it can't find drive "C". If I use del "SETUP*CMD,sss" is says
"Deleting C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
> SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"
> Well I can tell you the file IS there.
> 

Sorry if you already done this, try using the original Disk drives thing
that comes with warp.  I get regularly files which are undeletable (just
had one, where 2 separate programs crashed).  It has always cleared what
appeared to be undeletable.

Charles


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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    05-Dec-99 15:50:12
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Re: When 32bit CHKDSK first came out...

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 07:06:13, Will Rose <cwr@cts.com> wrote:

> The standalone fix for chkdsk apparently needed this driver, but 
> does the later version, included in Fixpack whatever, still use
> it?  I've got it commented out of config.sys at present, and
> chkdsk still seems as quick.

It's not for speed. It's for extra memory for checking large disks.

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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               05-Dec-99 15:52:01
  To: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Re: Missing boot blob

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

To: John Poltorak <jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk>
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> In <3849CDDD.7FB78EA9@dundee.ac.uk>, Charles Christacopoulos
<c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk> writes:
> >John Poltorak wrote:

> >  I had problems like you
> >describe when I used to use adaptec controllers.  The answer was to turn
> >caching off (processor., memory etc).  Warp 3 and 4 hung on me upon the
> >first reboot or there abouts.
> >
> >I don't think it is your hard disk as such.
> 
> That sounds right, I have tried about five different disks. It looks like
some
> misconfiguration/conflict between LVM and the Adaptec controller, but
> I can't imagine what.... I keeping get msgs about partition tables being
corrupt
> when I start LVM. This is after I've used LVM to create partitions in the
first
> place and attempted to install Aurora.

Your controller 2940 was the same that I got all sorts of trouble.  What
I found was (mind you with Warp4) that I had to start the installation
with all cacheing off, a very slow process.  Have you tried installing
plain Warp 4 on the same machine?

Charles
 


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Dec-99 19:56:08
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:05:15, bruce@os2box.omen.com.au wrote:

> No matther what I do, I cannot get rid of a file in \mptn\bin directory. The 
file name
> is "SETUP*CMD,sss".
> 
> I'm not able to drag the file to a floppy or any other partition on the hard 
disk. Doing so
> OS2 tells me it can't find drive "C". If I use del "SETUP*CMD,sss" is says
"Deleting C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
> SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"
> Well I can tell you the file IS there.
> 
> It does not seem to have any effect on the file system. My problem is that
it's there and I 
> can't get rid if it. It's on a HPFS Warp 4 partition.
>  
> Anyone have any clues please on how to rid my drive of this file???
> 
>  bruce@os2box.omen.com.au
> 

Put the whole drive:\path\filename within double quotes. Do this from 
a command line:

DEL "C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD.sss"

WITH the quotes. I think the "*" is confusing things, and the quotes 
should help.

If that doesn't work, try:

DEL C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*

which will delete every file in the directory, with a file 
name+extension that starts with SETUP, so be careful.

Hope this helps...
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From: sma@spam-not.rtd.com                              05-Dec-99 20:30:24
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: James Moe <sma@spam-not.rtd.com>


bruce@os2box.omen.com.au wrote:
> 
> No matther what I do, I cannot get rid of a file in \mptn\bin directory. The 
file name
> is "SETUP*CMD,sss".
> 
> I'm not able to drag the file to a floppy or any other partition on the hard 
disk. Doing so
> OS2 tells me it can't find drive "C". If I use del "SETUP*CMD,sss" is says
"Deleting C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
> SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"
> Well I can tell you the file IS there.
> 
  It may be that the file system has become damaged regarding that file.
I had a program that crashed and had the same symptoms (file shows in
DIR command, can't be found by DEL). No variation of quoting or
wildcards could convince the OS the file existed for deletion.
  Try running CHKDSK. Since this is the C: drive you'll have to boot to
floppies or a mainteneance partition to have corrections written out.
This may correct the problem.
  Another option is to backup up everything in that directory except the
file you want to ax, remove the directory (if it will not remove, rename
it), restore it. It *is* a bit draconian... 


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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             05-Dec-99 23:10:13
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:29
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:03:20, dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro) wrote:

> If you use pinball.sys make sure you keep your hpfs partitions smaller
> than 4gigs.
> 
> Duncan

Yes, I usually keep all my partitions at about 2GBytes, mainly
for archiving reasons.
However, do you know of any solutions which do not depend
upon pinball.sys?

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From: andrewv@datacom.co.nz                             06-Dec-99 10:39:12
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:29
Subj: JAZ / HPFS / FixPak 12 / DD 1

From: "Andrew Vernon" <andrewv@datacom.co.nz>

Hi All

I have a just reinstalled my home machine, am currently running FixPak 12,
and Device Driver FixPak 1.  However I can not longer format my JAZ drive
with HPFS.  I was able to do it with FixPak 9 and the updated IDE package.
I've read through the README that came with the FixPaks ... can't work out
what I've done wrong.

What have I missed!!

Thanks in advance.

Andrew



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From: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au                          06-Dec-99 11:10:23
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au

I've actually tried using chkdsk after booting from floppies. I used /3 as the 
switch and although
a couple of minor errors were reported found the file still exists and chkdsk
passed it by.

Thanks.

In <384ACB72.F8C718CB@spam-not.rtd.com>, James Moe <sma@spam-not.rtd.com>
writes:

>  It may be that the file system has become damaged regarding that file.
>I had a program that crashed and had the same symptoms (file shows in
>DIR command, can't be found by DEL). No variation of quoting or
>wildcards could convince the OS the file existed for deletion.
>  Try running CHKDSK. Since this is the C: drive you'll have to boot to
>floppies or a mainteneance partition to have corrections written out.
>This may correct the problem.
>  Another option is to backup up everything in that directory except the
>file you want to ax, remove the directory (if it will not remove, rename
>it), restore it. It *is* a bit draconian... 
>
>
>-- 
>
>sma at rtd dot com
>Remove "spam-not." for email

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From: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au                          06-Dec-99 11:06:00
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au

An idea however. Thanks

c:\mptn\bin>attrib "SETUP*CMD,sss" -r -a -s -h
___A_ -> _____  V:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"V:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"


 <384a4cc0.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)
writes:
>In <c1.2c.2T8FMv$00w@transit.omen.com.au>, bruce@os2box.omen.com.au writes:
>>No matther what I do, I cannot get rid of a file in \mptn\bin directory. The 
file name
>>is "SETUP*CMD,sss".
>
>What happens when you try 
>
>dir ??????????sss 
>
>If this finds the file, maybe try 
>
>del ??????????sss 
>
>at a command prompt...
>
>>I'm not able to drag the file to a floppy or any other partition on the hard 
disk. Doing so
>>OS2 tells me it can't find drive "C". If I use del "SETUP*CMD,sss" is says
"Deleting C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
>>SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"
>>Well I can tell you the file IS there.
>>
>>It does not seem to have any effect on the file system. My problem is that
it's there and I 
>>can't get rid if it. It's on a HPFS Warp 4 partition.
>> 
>>Anyone have any clues please on how to rid my drive of this file???
>>
>> bruce@os2box.omen.com.au
>>
>--
>John

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From: mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk                       06-Dec-99 10:44:20
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: Michael Voase <mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk>

Hiya,

I have tried to install a IDE drive into a previous all SCSI system
(apart from an IDE CDROM) which basically failed.

I checked that the mb BIOS would boot from my SCSI drive and this was
confirmed when my boot manager came up.

However when OS/2 (Warp 3.0 fixpack 40) then came up it just sits at the
Warp splash screen. I can reboot ok via CAD so the hardware has not
crashed.

I also have DOS and Windows95 on my boot mananger menu and these boot ok
and fdisk sees the new drive ok. At this point it had not been
formatted.

I then used my OS/2 boot floppies and these worked ok - OS/2 fdisk sees
the new drive as disk 1, SCSI drive as disk 2.

I then thought that it may have something to do with drive letters and
partitions, so I deleted a small FAT temp partition that OS/2 can see to
change the drive letters.

No chanage on reboot.

As a test I copied my OS/2 boot partition to the new drive (using
partition magic) and reset the mb BIOS to boot from the new drive (and
checked that the copied partition was marked active).

Partial success - OS/2 booted from the new drive but complained about
the drive letters in config.sys. Changed them to C: and rebooted. Now
complains about the OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI being corrupt - however OS/2
gives a PM session and can see the SCSI drives. This also would prove
that I have all the required device drivers listed in config.sys.

Given this info the only thing I can see as a way forward would be to
possibly temp remove the SCSI drive, re-install OS/2 on the IDE drive,
re-install the SCSI drive, remove Boot Manager from SCSI and re-create
on IDE to allow DOS/Win95 partitions to boot. And also rebuild some of
my OS/2 apps such as Communicator.

Unless someone out there can suggest something better :)


Regards,
Michael.


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From: mcbrides@erols.com                                06-Dec-99 07:07:14
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Re: Multisession CDs once again

From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride)

In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-IypwwM1ddHDu@man-098.dialup.zetnet.co.uk>,
rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:
>On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:41:43, pjfloyd@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>> Reading the license agreement for the IBM DDK source,
>> I cannot distribute the source code I modified, but I
>> can distribute the object code.
>
>How about stating the precise (date and version) file you modified,
>then distributing the differences using 'diff'. Then others could
>apply then with 'patch'.
>
>

I like this approach, it's easy and quite legal also. Perhaps the complete
diff'ed source code could be included in the distribution for those of that
like to read that kind of sutff...

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        06-Dec-99 14:57:25
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:04
Subj: Re: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <384B9397.64D26473@mercantile-bs.co.uk>, Michael Voase
<mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk> writes:
>Hiya,
>
>I have tried to install a IDE drive into a previous all SCSI system
>(apart from an IDE CDROM) which basically failed.
>
>I checked that the mb BIOS would boot from my SCSI drive and this was
>confirmed when my boot manager came up.
>
>However when OS/2 (Warp 3.0 fixpack 40) then came up it just sits at the
>Warp splash screen. I can reboot ok via CAD so the hardware has not
>crashed.

Press Alt-F2 when the OS/2 boot blob comes up and you will see a list
of drivers being loaded on the bottom line under the Warp logo. 

The one displayed when the system hangs is likely to be the culprit.

>Unless someone out there can suggest something better :)
>
>
>Regards,
>Michael.
>
>
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From: kgmccoyZ@Zidk-inc.com                             06-Dec-99 20:36:16
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: JAZ / HPFS / FixPak 12 / DD 1

From: kgmccoyZ@Zidk-inc.com (Kevin G. McCoy)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:39:25, "Andrew Vernon" <andrewv@datacom.co.nz> 
wrote:

> I have a just reinstalled my home machine, am currently running FixPak 12,
> and Device Driver FixPak 1.  However I can not longer format my JAZ drive
> with HPFS.  I was able to do it with FixPak 9 and the updated IDE package.
> I've read through the README that came with the FixPaks ... can't work out
> what I've done wrong.
> 
> What have I missed!!

Did you FDISK the affected cartridge(s)?  Until you do, you can only 
do a large-floppy FAT format of a given cartridge.  You only need to 
do this once per cart, and then you should be able to format at will -
FAT or HPFS.

Also double check your CONFIG.SYS for:

BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /rf

Note the "rf" flag which turns on removable-media HPFS support.

Don't install any Iomega drivers!

HTH,

Kevin McCoy
http://www.idk-inc.com
----------------------
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From: phaze2black@mercantile-bs.co.uk                   06-Dec-99 21:48:22
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Re: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: phaze2black@mercantile-bs.co.uk (Michael Voase)

Hiya,

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:57:50, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
Poltorak) wrote:


> Press Alt-F2 when the OS/2 boot blob comes up and you will see a list
> of drivers being loaded on the bottom line under the Warp logo. 
> 
> The one displayed when the system hangs is likely to be the culprit.
> 

It hangs at IBM1S506.ADD.

Any configuration ideas ?


Michael.

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    06-Dec-99 17:39:10
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:29
Subj: Re: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

You need to *NOT* define the new IDE drive in the system BIOS (don't
run the AUTODETECT for the new hard drive). Make sure that the IDE
port that the drive is attached is ENABLED in BIOS, and make sure that
the drive is jumpered correctly (MASTER if it's the only drive on that
port, or if the CD-ROM is SLAVED off of it). Don't try to SLAVE the
hard drive off of the MASTER CD-ROM drive. CD-ROM drives don't always
contain the necessary IDE electronics to control a hard drive.

Load the IDE driver (IBM1S506.ADD) *AFTER* the SCSI driver in your
CONFIG.SYS file.

If the IDE Hard Drive is  larger than 4.3Gb, get the updated IDE
drivers from the OS/2 DDPAK Online site (IDEDASD.EXE is the filename).
It's a self-extracting exe file that comes with instructions on how to
use the included drivers.

I have 5 SCSI Hard Drives in this  system, and 1 10Gb IDE drive, and
the system still boots from the SCSI, and letters all the SCSI drives
*before* the IDE drive.

In article <384B9397.64D26473@mercantile-bs.co.uk>,
Michael Voase <mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk> wrote:
>Hiya,
>
>I have tried to install a IDE drive into a previous all SCSI system
>(apart from an IDE CDROM) which basically failed.
>
>I checked that the mb BIOS would boot from my SCSI drive and this was
>confirmed when my boot manager came up.
>
>However when OS/2 (Warp 3.0 fixpack 40) then came up it just sits at the
>Warp splash screen. I can reboot ok via CAD so the hardware has not
>crashed.
>
>I also have DOS and Windows95 on my boot mananger menu and these boot ok
>and fdisk sees the new drive ok. At this point it had not been
>formatted.
>
>I then used my OS/2 boot floppies and these worked ok - OS/2 fdisk sees
>the new drive as disk 1, SCSI drive as disk 2.
>
>I then thought that it may have something to do with drive letters and
>partitions, so I deleted a small FAT temp partition that OS/2 can see to
>change the drive letters.
>
>No chanage on reboot.
>
>As a test I copied my OS/2 boot partition to the new drive (using
>partition magic) and reset the mb BIOS to boot from the new drive (and
>checked that the copied partition was marked active).
>
>Partial success - OS/2 booted from the new drive but complained about
>the drive letters in config.sys. Changed them to C: and rebooted. Now
>complains about the OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI being corrupt - however OS/2
>gives a PM session and can see the SCSI drives. This also would prove
>that I have all the required device drivers listed in config.sys.
>
>Given this info the only thing I can see as a way forward would be to
>possibly temp remove the SCSI drive, re-install OS/2 on the IDE drive,
>re-install the SCSI drive, remove Boot Manager from SCSI and re-create
>on IDE to allow DOS/Win95 partitions to boot. And also rebuild some of
>my OS/2 apps such as Communicator.
>
>Unless someone out there can suggest something better :)
>
>
>Regards,
>Michael.
>
>

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From: ctompset@7cities.net                              06-Dec-99 15:47:00
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:29
Subj: Re: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: "Clark Tompsett" <ctompset@7cities.net>

If the ide driver is loading before the scsi driver, it can cause problems
with the driver letters.  Make sure that the ide driver follows you scsi
driver.  Then the drive letters should put the new hd after the scsi drives

Clark

On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 10:44:40 +0000, Michael Voase wrote:

:>Hiya,
:>
:>I have tried to install a IDE drive into a previous all SCSI system
:>(apart from an IDE CDROM) which basically failed.
:>
:>I checked that the mb BIOS would boot from my SCSI drive and this was
:>confirmed when my boot manager came up.
:>
:>However when OS/2 (Warp 3.0 fixpack 40) then came up it just sits at the
:>Warp splash screen. I can reboot ok via CAD so the hardware has not
:>crashed.
:>
:>I also have DOS and Windows95 on my boot mananger menu and these boot ok
:>and fdisk sees the new drive ok. At this point it had not been
:>formatted.
:>
:>I then used my OS/2 boot floppies and these worked ok - OS/2 fdisk sees
:>the new drive as disk 1, SCSI drive as disk 2.
:>
:>I then thought that it may have something to do with drive letters and
:>partitions, so I deleted a small FAT temp partition that OS/2 can see to
:>change the drive letters.
:>
:>No chanage on reboot.
:>
:>As a test I copied my OS/2 boot partition to the new drive (using
:>partition magic) and reset the mb BIOS to boot from the new drive (and
:>checked that the copied partition was marked active).
:>
:>Partial success - OS/2 booted from the new drive but complained about
:>the drive letters in config.sys. Changed them to C: and rebooted. Now
:>complains about the OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI being corrupt - however OS/2
:>gives a PM session and can see the SCSI drives. This also would prove
:>that I have all the required device drivers listed in config.sys.
:>
:>Given this info the only thing I can see as a way forward would be to
:>possibly temp remove the SCSI drive, re-install OS/2 on the IDE drive,
:>re-install the SCSI drive, remove Boot Manager from SCSI and re-create
:>on IDE to allow DOS/Win95 partitions to boot. And also rebuild some of
:>my OS/2 apps such as Communicator.
:>
:>Unless someone out there can suggest something better :)
:>
:>
:>Regards,
:>Michael.
:>
:>



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From: Saltine@notthere.com                              06-Dec-99 22:32:03
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: how to duplicate my HD?

From: "Saltine" <Saltine@notthere.com>

The best way to duplicate any hard disk is to use a disk drive duplication
device.
We use Logicube solitaire which duplicate disk drives at over 800 megs per
minute.
You can find them at http://www.logicube.com
We researched the market and found them to be the best.

Good luck



Kayhan Tajalli <kayhan@tajalli.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:827a79$8dj$2@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> I am about to change my hard disk , is there anyway of copying everything
to
> the new one without actually installing everything the long way ??
> your replies are appreciated.
>
> Ken
>

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From: mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk                       07-Dec-99 10:42:23
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: Michael Voase <mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk>

Hiya,

Dan Casey wrote:

> You need to *NOT* define the new IDE drive in the system BIOS (don't
> run the AUTODETECT for the new hard drive).

OK I'll do this on the next test.

> Make sure that the IDE
> port that the drive is attached is ENABLED in BIOS, and make sure that
> the drive is jumpered correctly (MASTER if it's the only drive on that
> port, or if the CD-ROM is SLAVED off of it). Don't try to SLAVE the
> hard drive off of the MASTER CD-ROM drive. CD-ROM drives don't always
> contain the necessary IDE electronics to control a hard drive.
>

Already done - I've fallen into that trap before.

>
> Load the IDE driver (IBM1S506.ADD) *AFTER* the SCSI driver in your
> CONFIG.SYS file.
>

Ahh and I think we've located the problem - IBM1S506.ADD is definatly loaded
before the SCSI driver. Which would explain the partial sucess that I had
booting from the IDE drive.

>
> If the IDE Hard Drive is  larger than 4.3Gb, get the updated IDE
> drivers from the OS/2 DDPAK Online site (IDEDASD.EXE is the filename).
> It's a self-extracting exe file that comes with instructions on how to
> use the included drivers.
>

Already thought of that - Iam on fixpack 40. (bldlevel of IBM1S506.ADD is
10.16).

>
> I have 5 SCSI Hard Drives in this  system, and 1 10Gb IDE drive, and
> the system still boots from the SCSI, and letters all the SCSI drives
> *before* the IDE drive.
>

Glad to hear that this works - gives me some more confidance for a further
test tonight :)

Regards,
Michael.



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From: mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk                       07-Dec-99 10:44:05
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: Michael Voase <mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk>

Hiya,

Clark Tompsett wrote:

> If the ide driver is loading before the scsi driver, it can cause problems
> with the driver letters.  Make sure that the ide driver follows you scsi
> driver.  Then the drive letters should put the new hd after the scsi drives
>
> Clark
>

Thanks Clark, I think that this is the problem and will go through a further
test tonight.


Regards,
Michael.


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From: ek332@columbia.edu                                07-Dec-99 11:30:17
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: Eyal Kattan <ek332@columbia.edu>

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Vlad Berditchevskiy wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:09:47, osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) wrote:
>
> > >How about the other way around?  Is there perhaps a
> > >driver to get OS/2 to read and write NTFS partitions?
> >
> > Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997:
> >
> > ntfs_003.zip
> >      NTFS IFS (file system driver) for OS/2
>
> This is NOT an IFS! This archive includes some tools to access NTFS
> partitions in read only mode (list directories, copy files etc).
>

Is there an IFS driver for OS/2 to read or read/write from/to NTFS ? where
can it be found ?

Eyal,




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From: mtucker999@my-deja.com                            07-Dec-99 15:17:27
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: OS/2 recognizing IDE drives larger than 2 gig.

From: mtucker999@my-deja.com


I'm trying to install Warp 3 (Connect) on a 10gig drive.  The problem
I've run into is that there is not enough room on Disk1 to copy the new
drivers on - even after deleting the older versions of the files first.
Does anyone know which files I may safely delete from disk 1 to make
room for the new, larger files?

This is getting frustrating

Mark
mark at tucker dot net

> Warp 3 has only two (2) install disks.
>
...
> In either case you have to download the IDEDASD.EXE update
> file from
>
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe
>
> This is a self expanding file (it also works in DOS)
>
> There are instructions in the README file that is contained in
> the package. Basically, they tell you make a new copy of
> the "Disk 1" and update some of the files with the files from
> the IDEDASD package. I think these are
> IBM1S506.ADD
> IBMIDECD.FLT
> OS2DASD.DMD
> and add the statement
> SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1
> to the end of the config.sys file on "Disk 1"
>
> but check the instructions to make sure....
>
> After updating the installation diskettes you boot from the
> diskettes with the CD in the CD drive and follow the
> instructions.

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**reply to mark at tucker dot net
==============================================


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From: ek332@columbia.edu                                07-Dec-99 11:27:16
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: OS/2 and NTFS on the same machine

From: Eyal Kattan <ek332@columbia.edu>

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Charles Christacopoulos wrote:

> Eyal Kattan wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can OS/2 Warp Server for e-business read NTFS partitions
> > on the same machine (I'm using OS/2 boot manager) ? and if yes, can
> > anyone tell me the secret
> > how to do it ?
> >
>  See an answer 3 questions above yours :-)  ALternative,
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/ is full of the stuff.
>
> Regards
> Charles
>

Thank you very much :)

Eyal



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From: SkidMARX@att.net                                  07-Dec-99 19:55:17
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: SkidMARX@att.net

Being as I'd rather use a "native" version of Partition Magic than 
having to boot into Windows, or setup the special DRDOS boot disks 
supplied with Partition Magic 5, is it safe to use version 3.x (the 
last native Warp exe I believe) with the newer generation large 
capacity drives?

I have a 13gig MAXTOR and would prefer not to screw it up doing a 
resize or such ...

Any help?

Thanks,
Gregory L. Marx
skidmarx@att.net

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     07-Dec-99 20:05:07
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: OS/2 recognizing IDE drives larger than 2 gig.

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 15:17:55 GMT, mtucker999@my-deja.com wrote:

->I'm trying to install Warp 3 (Connect) on a 10gig drive.  The problem
->I've run into is that there is not enough room on Disk1 to copy the new
->drivers on - even after deleting the older versions of the files first.
->Does anyone know which files I may safely delete from disk 1 to make
->room for the new, larger files?

AIC7770.ADD if you don't have an Adaptec 274x series EISA SCSI adapter
AIC7870.ADD if you don't have an Adaptec 2940 series PCI SCSI adapter
(excluding the 2940U2W).

REM out the lines in CONFIG.SYS that refer to the drivers.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     08-Dec-99 01:04:18
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: Install IDE support how?

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 20:43:27 +0000, Charles Christacopoulos wrote:

->Can anyone suggest to me which are the files in config.sys which are
->used to enable IDE support.

basedev=ibm1s506.add
basedev=ibmidecd.flt
device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     08-Dec-99 01:07:16
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: OS/2 recognizing IDE drives larger than 2 gig.

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 21:05:52 GMT, mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:

->    What do you do for the 2940U2W controller and the embedded Adaptec
->    stuff on the ASUS P5 motherboards that coughs on the tape backup
->    unit drives etc.

You need to use AIC78U2.ADD I'd guess. If you need that on the install
diskettes then you'll have to delete the other two files to make room for
it.

I'm not sure I understand your other questions (but that may just be 'cos
it's late (-:).


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           08-Dec-99 07:15:05
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 10:20:01
Subj: Re: 9.1G SCSI that runs but not W/utility disks

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <s4qvjk4lqeg15@corp.supernews.com>, on 12/07/99 at 09:39 PM,
   mike.luther@ziplog.com said:


> I've got a 9.1GB Seagate that apparently runs fine under Warp 4 with the
> FP8 drivers on an Adaptec 2940UW controller.  However, try as I might, I
> can't get a set of Utility disks to run it from a floppy boot.

> I created the entire utility disks with the FP8 drivers, including the
> one that is apparently running this disk fine.  It's a solid HPFS
> system.  Am familiar with the 'need' to run CHKDSK a time or so on the
> newly created drive partitions to remove the "Minor drive error", deal.
> So in trying to do that, I created a new set of utility disks and..

Are you absolutely sure that the adaptec driver is the one from your hard
drive, not the one from the Warp CD? The reason I ask is that most people
forget to replace the aic78709.add file that comes from the Warp CD with
the one from their x:\os2\boot sub-directory.

The reason you get the "minor file system error" is that the hpfs.ifs
which came on the CD is flawed. There is a replacement on the IBM website
since the day after Warp 4 was released. You can also copy the one from
os2\boot to the floppy which prevents this anomoly.

Don't bother to tell us that you told the utility to use the files on your
boot drive. Doesn't work properly. You still get some files from the CD.

--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
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From: sfactual@erols.com                                08-Dec-99 09:28:04
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: Install IDE support how?

From: Jon Schuck <sfactual@erols.com>

Trevor Hemsley's reply is correct, but don't forget the ORDER the drivers
are loaded.  IDE can REALLY dick up a scsi boot system.  make sure the scsi
calls come first in config.sys.

Charles Christacopoulos wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am running WSeB with just SCSI.  I had to install an IDE CD-Rom which
> I cannot get to show up.  At first I thought the problem was with LVM,
> however I now notice the machine does not enable the IDE drivers (ide is
> enabled in the bios).
>
> I have  a nearly identical machine running warp 4 (only IDE device is an
> identical CDRom).  Tried comparing the two config.sys but I am none the
> wiser.  I have tried installing the cd-rom using a number of the
> available cd-rom types with no success.
>
> Can anyone suggest to me which are the files in config.sys which are
> used to enable IDE support.
>
> Many thanks
> Charles

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From: mpajoh@odot.org                                   08-Dec-99 14:05:28
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Need help with HD setup

From: mpajoh@odot.org

Hi All;
I am trying to setup a 13.6 GB HD so that I can have three operating
system installed, and accessed via boot manager.
Here is what I thought the HD layout should look like:
    1- 150 MB, Primary, Maintenance Partition
    2- 7 MB, Primary, Boot Manager
    3- balance of 13.6 left blank to install Red Hat Linux
    4- 1 GB, Primary, NT System
    5- 3 GB, Logical, NT Apps, NTFS
    6- 2 GB, Logical, OS/2 System, HPFS
    7- 3 GB, Logical, OS/2 APPS, HPFS

The reason I put Linux where it is because, from what I gather, Linux
will not boot from cylinders greater than 1024.

Here is the problem: I can add partitions 1 & 4 to the boot manager, but
fdisk does not give the option to add partition 6 to the boot manager.

I do not know why.
Do I need somehow format number 3, but if I do that after I install OS/2
and NT then Linux would the partition letters not change and mess up the
installations?

Any help is appreciated.

Masoud
P.S. I used boot diskettes that are updated with DASD for large drives.


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Dec-99 15:40:25
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: Need help with HD setup

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:05:56, mpajoh@odot.org wrote:

> Hi All;
> I am trying to setup a 13.6 GB HD so that I can have three operating
> system installed, and accessed via boot manager.
> Here is what I thought the HD layout should look like:
>     1- 150 MB, Primary, Maintenance Partition
>     2- 7 MB, Primary, Boot Manager
>     3- balance of 13.6 left blank to install Red Hat Linux
>     4- 1 GB, Primary, NT System
>     5- 3 GB, Logical, NT Apps, NTFS
>     6- 2 GB, Logical, OS/2 System, HPFS
>     7- 3 GB, Logical, OS/2 APPS, HPFS
> 
> The reason I put Linux where it is because, from what I gather, Linux
> will not boot from cylinders greater than 1024.
> 
> Here is the problem: I can add partitions 1 & 4 to the boot manager, but
> fdisk does not give the option to add partition 6 to the boot manager.
> 
> I do not know why.
> Do I need somehow format number 3, but if I do that after I install OS/2
> and NT then Linux would the partition letters not change and mess up the
> installations?
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 

Boot Manager will not boot ANY partition that is beyond
the 1024 cylinder boundary. If number 3 is between 2 and 4
on the drive partiton 6 would appear to be beyond the
1024 cylinder limit (about 8.4 gig).

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From: c.k.chrsitacopoulos_removeme@dun...               08-Dec-99 16:48:25
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: Need help with HD setup

Message sender: c.k.chrsitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.chrsitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk>


Lorne Sunley wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:05:56, mpajoh@odot.org wrote:
>
> > Hi All;
> > I am trying to setup a 13.6 GB HD so that I can have three operating
> > system installed, and accessed via boot manager.
> > Here is what I thought the HD layout should look like:
> >     1- 150 MB, Primary, Maintenance Partition
> >     2- 7 MB, Primary, Boot Manager
> >     3- balance of 13.6 left blank to install Red Hat Linux
> >     4- 1 GB, Primary, NT System
> >     5- 3 GB, Logical, NT Apps, NTFS
> >     6- 2 GB, Logical, OS/2 System, HPFS
> >     7- 3 GB, Logical, OS/2 APPS, HPFS
> >
> >
> Boot Manager will not boot ANY partition that is beyond
> the 1024 cylinder boundary. If number 3 is between 2 and 4
> on the drive partiton 6 would appear to be beyond the
> 1024 cylinder limit (about 8.4 gig).
>
> --
>
> Lorne Sunley

Hi Lorne,

will it be possible to install as many "primary" partitions.  I count 4
primary + 1 extended, it sounds like 1 too many

(I have tried and failed on SCSI.  I don't think SCSI and IDE are different in
this respect.  Are they?)

Charles

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From: eickhsr@jm-usa.com                                08-Dec-99 14:43:29
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: Stephen Eickhoff <eickhsr@jm-usa.com>


Doug Bissett wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:05:15, bruce@os2box.omen.com.au wrote:
>
> > No matther what I do, I cannot get rid of a file in \mptn\bin directory.
The file name
> > is "SETUP*CMD,sss".
> >
> > I'm not able to drag the file to a floppy or any other partition on the
hard disk. Doing so
> > OS2 tells me it can't find drive "C". If I use del "SETUP*CMD,sss" is says 
"Deleting C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss
> > SYS0003: The system cannot find the path specified.
"C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD,sss"
> > Well I can tell you the file IS there.
> >
> > It does not seem to have any effect on the file system. My problem is that 
it's there and I
> > can't get rid if it. It's on a HPFS Warp 4 partition.
> >
> > Anyone have any clues please on how to rid my drive of this file???
> >
> >  bruce@os2box.omen.com.au
> >
>
> Put the whole drive:\path\filename within double quotes. Do this from
> a command line:
>
> DEL "C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*CMD.sss"
>
> WITH the quotes. I think the "*" is confusing things, and the quotes
> should help.
>
> If that doesn't work, try:
>
> DEL C:\MPTN\BIN\SETUP*
>
> which will delete every file in the directory, with a file
> name+extension that starts with SETUP, so be careful.

I don't recommend that, SETUP.CMD initializes the TCP/IP interfaces and would
be deleted. Maybe copy it somewhere
else first.

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From: eickhsr@jm-usa.com                                08-Dec-99 14:41:27
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Cannot delete this file :- SETUP*CMD,sss

From: Stephen Eickhoff <eickhsr@jm-usa.com>

If you have DOS support installed, open a DOS window and try deleting it from
there.

Try using the "?" wilcard in place of the "*":  del setup?cmd,sss

bruce@os2box.omen.com.au wrote:

> I've actually tried using chkdsk after booting from floppies. I used /3 as
the switch and although
> a couple of minor errors were reported found the file still exists and
chkdsk passed it by.
>
> Thanks.
>
> In <384ACB72.F8C718CB@spam-not.rtd.com>, James Moe <sma@spam-not.rtd.com>
writes:
>
> >  It may be that the file system has become damaged regarding that file.
> >I had a program that crashed and had the same symptoms (file shows in
> >DIR command, can't be found by DEL). No variation of quoting or
> >wildcards could convince the OS the file existed for deletion.
> >  Try running CHKDSK. Since this is the C: drive you'll have to boot to
> >floppies or a mainteneance partition to have corrections written out.
> >This may correct the problem.
> >  Another option is to backup up everything in that directory except the
> >file you want to ax, remove the directory (if it will not remove, rename
> >it), restore it. It *is* a bit draconian...
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >sma at rtd dot com
> >Remove "spam-not." for email

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Dec-99 19:10:02
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Need help with HD setup

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:48:50, Charles Christacopoulos 
<c.k.chrsitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> 
> Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:05:56, mpajoh@odot.org wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All;
> > > I am trying to setup a 13.6 GB HD so that I can have three operating
> > > system installed, and accessed via boot manager.
> > > Here is what I thought the HD layout should look like:
> > >     1- 150 MB, Primary, Maintenance Partition
> > >     2- 7 MB, Primary, Boot Manager
> > >     3- balance of 13.6 left blank to install Red Hat Linux
> > >     4- 1 GB, Primary, NT System
> > >     5- 3 GB, Logical, NT Apps, NTFS
> > >     6- 2 GB, Logical, OS/2 System, HPFS
> > >     7- 3 GB, Logical, OS/2 APPS, HPFS
> > >
> > >
> > Boot Manager will not boot ANY partition that is beyond
> > the 1024 cylinder boundary. If number 3 is between 2 and 4
> > on the drive partiton 6 would appear to be beyond the
> > 1024 cylinder limit (about 8.4 gig).
> >
> > --
> >
> > Lorne Sunley
> 
> Hi Lorne,
> 
> will it be possible to install as many "primary" partitions.  I count 4
> primary + 1 extended, it sounds like 1 too many
> 
> (I have tried and failed on SCSI.  I don't think SCSI and IDE are different
in
> this respect.  Are they?)
> 
> Charles
> 

 You only get 4 partitions. The extended ones can contain
sub-allocations (logical drives) but you are limited
to 4 partitions (includes Boot Manager).

This is a restriction invented sometime in the past
and has been carried forward to maintain compatibility.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: c.k.chrisitacopoulos_removeme@du...               08-Dec-99 19:20:06
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Need help with HD setup

Message sender: c.k.chrisitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.chrisitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk>


Lorne Sunley wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:48:50, Charles Christacopoulos
> <c.k.chrsitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >
>  You only get 4 partitions. The extended ones can contain
> sub-allocations (logical drives) but you are limited
> to 4 partitions (includes Boot Manager).
>
> This is a restriction invented sometime in the past
> and has been carried forward to maintain compatibility.

I am not trying to prolong this.  I thought the extended partition is one of
the 4.
In the past I tried to create partitions for eg.
1 Boot manager
2 OS/2
3 one more os
4 one more os
5 extended

and I would have to loose the space left for 5.  I could not make extended
(let
alone primary).  If you saying it can be done I wonder if it had to do with
the
amount of space I was allocating to 2,3,4.

Not that I ever has as many OSs but it could be useful to have clean installs
of
os/2 or wseb.

Thanks
Charles

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From: eickhsr@jm-usa.com                                08-Dec-99 14:36:05
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: Stephen Eickhoff <eickhsr@jm-usa.com>

It won't let you create or resize a partition larget than 8 GB.

SkidMARX@att.net wrote:

> Being as I'd rather use a "native" version of Partition Magic than
> having to boot into Windows, or setup the special DRDOS boot disks
> supplied with Partition Magic 5, is it safe to use version 3.x (the
> last native Warp exe I believe) with the newer generation large
> capacity drives?
>
> I have a 13gig MAXTOR and would prefer not to screw it up doing a
> resize or such ...
>
> Any help?
>
> Thanks,
> Gregory L. Marx
> skidmarx@att.net

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Dec-99 20:10:29
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Need help with HD setup

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:20:12, Charles Christacopoulos 
<c.k.chrisitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> 
> Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:48:50, Charles Christacopoulos
> > <c.k.chrsitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> >  You only get 4 partitions. The extended ones can contain
> > sub-allocations (logical drives) but you are limited
> > to 4 partitions (includes Boot Manager).
> >
> > This is a restriction invented sometime in the past
> > and has been carried forward to maintain compatibility.
> 
> I am not trying to prolong this.  I thought the extended partition is one of 
the 4.
> In the past I tried to create partitions for eg.
> 1 Boot manager
> 2 OS/2
> 3 one more os
> 4 one more os
> 5 extended
> 
> and I would have to loose the space left for 5.  I could not make extended
(let
> alone primary).  If you saying it can be done I wonder if it had to do with
the
> amount of space I was allocating to 2,3,4.
> 
> Not that I ever has as many OSs but it could be useful to have clean
installs of
> os/2 or wseb.
> 

OS/2 will install to an extended partition logical drive.
That allows you to have Boot Manager, Two other
primary partitions for those OS's (read Windows/DOS)
that require a primary to install, and one extended with
a bunch of logical drives. (of course this has to all fit
in the 1024 cylinder limit.

It's easier to get a second drive and place OS/2 on
that drive. Boot Manager will allow you to boot from
any partitions on any HD installed.
(This is what I do BTW :-)


--

Lorne Sunley

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     08-Dec-99 20:20:20
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:36:11 -0500, Stephen Eickhoff wrote:

->It won't let you create or resize a partition larget than 8 GB.

As I've said many times in this group, I've never had a problem with it
and disks >8GB in size.

->SkidMARX@att.net wrote:
->
->> Being as I'd rather use a "native" version of Partition Magic than
->> having to boot into Windows, or setup the special DRDOS boot disks
->> supplied with Partition Magic 5, is it safe to use version 3.x (the
->> last native Warp exe I believe) with the newer generation large
->> capacity drives?
->>
->> I have a 13gig MAXTOR and would prefer not to screw it up doing a
->> resize or such ...
->>
->> Any help?
->>
->> Thanks,
->> Gregory L. Marx
->> skidmarx@att.net
->

Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: letang.sybille@hydro.qc.ca                        08-Dec-99 20:11:28
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Recovery lost data (HELP!!)

From: Sybille =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=E9tang?= <letang.sybille@hydro.qc.ca>

Hi!

Does anyone know how can I retrieve my data on my HPFS drive? My file
table has been corrupted, but I desperately need the data on my drive.

What about Gammatech?  It is a good software?

Sybille



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From: jejones@ibm.net                                   09-Dec-99 03:10:21
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Moving to a new, larger hard drive--HELP!

From: jejones@ibm.net

OK...Now I'm in trouble.

I used PQ Drive Copy to copy C: (primary) and D: (logical) to a new 17
Gbyte
hard drive from a 6.1 Gbyte hard drive, and marked C: as startable.  All
appeared
to go well...but when I rejumpered and reconnected--disconnecting the
old drive
and making the new drive master instead of slave--it wouldn't boot.

I see some references to SYSINSTX.COM to make a partition bootable, but
OTOH I've seen claims that HPFS file systems don't require that.

Tonight I thought I'd try going ahead and using FDISK and XCOPY
/H/O/T/S/E/R/V as I've seen described (but what would that do that Drive

Copy didn't?).  Of course, I reset the jumpers on the new drive to make
it the
slave again. At first I thought I'd drop back to the "original"
CONFIG.SYS,
but that, I think, predates the IBM1S506 that knows about large IDE
drives,
so I rebooted and let it proceed.  Oops...now the new drive is
partitioned, so
that things on D: couldn't be found, and the system crashed in SINGLEQ$.

I went back to just having the old drive connected...but now the BIOS
doesn't
even recognize the old drive;  I fear that I've done something to fry
the old
drive.  (The new drive is recognized; I tried it by itself.)

Now I'm up the proverbial creek without a paddle.  Why on earth won't
the
new drive boot?  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    James Jones

Opinions herein are those of the author, and not necessarily those of
any
organization.

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From: jamesjones01@home.com                             09-Dec-99 03:34:16
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Moving to a new, larger hard drive--HELP!

From: James Joens <jamesjones01@home.com>

Sigh...I'm flustered this evening.  If you send an email reply, please send
it to
jamesjones01@home.com--I was sufficiently kerfuffled that I managed to use
an outdated user profile on the computer I'm using while I'm trying to get
the
other upgraded.  Aargh!

    James Jones

Opinions herein are those of the author, and not necessarily those of any
organization.

jejones@ibm.net wrote:
[plea for help and description of what I've done]

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From: jdparker@erols.com                                08-Dec-99 23:12:11
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: "James D Parker Jr." <jdparker@erols.com>

Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:36:11 -0500, Stephen Eickhoff wrote:
>
> ->It won't let you create or resize a partition larget than 8 GB.
>
> As I've said many times in this group, I've never had a problem with it
> and disks >8GB in size.
>
> ->SkidMARX@att.net wrote:
> ->
> ->> Being as I'd rather use a "native" version of Partition Magic than
> ->> having to boot into Windows, or setup the special DRDOS boot disks
> ->> supplied with Partition Magic 5, is it safe to use version 3.x (the
> ->> last native Warp exe I believe) with the newer generation large
> ->> capacity drives?
> ->>
> ->> I have a 13gig MAXTOR and would prefer not to screw it up doing a
> ->> resize or such ...
> ->>
> ->> Any help?
> ->>
> ->> Thanks,
> ->> Gregory L. Marx
> ->> skidmarx@att.net
> ->
>
> Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)

I've never had a hard drive bigger than 6.1 GB so I have no actual
experience but I've been on the PowerQuest forums and I seem to remember
that support for hard drives larger than 8GB didn't come until Version 4 of
Partition Magic.

So, Trevor, is it possible that the OS/2 executable for Version 3 can
support the larger hard drives with OS/2's updated drivers while the
Windows/DOS executables can't? Or is my memory failing me?

Thanks
Jim


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From: wbg@hevanet.com                                   09-Dec-99 04:34:20
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: OS/2 recognizing IDE drives larger than 2 gig.

From: wbg@hevanet.com (wbg)

news@news.dial.pipex.com>:
Organization: Hevanet - Portland's Internet Provider   Voice: 503-228-3520
Distribution: 

Re: this >2Gb thing - I just suffered a crash, and replaced the old 2Gb
with an 8.4 - and of course Warp4 thinks it's a 20-terabyte volume. 

Now, I get that I need those three drivers, and I did download them from the
Boulder site, and copy them onto my Warp floppy set. But the readme tells
me that I have to apply FP6, also. And I have always had a healthy skepticism
towards FPs and SPs in general, under the hoary theory that if it ain't
broke, don't go tryin' to fix it. 

On of my long-running problems has been a lack of a comprehensive FAQ 
resource to sort out some of the questions. I feel positive that there must
be one, but as yet I haven't managed to spot it. One of the questions
that comes to mind is, if I went straight to FP12, and just applied 
that, would that incorporate the appropriate >2Gb DASD elements?

On an unrelated note, yesterday I was browsing the SuperSite, and noted
a prominent link element for downloading the OS/2 Netscape 4.xx -
then today, when I was back on the SuperSite, all references to
NS4 had disappeared. Is there perhaps a problem with the current 
distribution, or what? Does anyone know?

TIA

Brewster Gillett

--
****************************************************************
  WHEN CHOCOLATE IS OUTLAWED, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE CHOCOLATE
****************************************************************
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From: mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk                       08-Dec-99 11:59:27
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: Michael Voase <mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk>

Hiya,

My system is now up and running - the position of the IDE and SCSI drivers
in the CONFIG.SYS proved to be the problem.

Incidently is this documented anywhere or has knowledge of this just
'happened' through time ?

Anyway thanks to John, Dan and Clark for their suggestions.


Regards,
Michael Voase.

Michael Voase wrote:

> Hiya,
>
> I have tried to install a IDE drive into a previous all SCSI system
> (apart from an IDE CDROM) which basically failed.
>
> I checked that the mb BIOS would boot from my SCSI drive and this was
> confirmed when my boot manager came up.
>
> However when OS/2 (Warp 3.0 fixpack 40) then came up it just sits at the
> Warp splash screen. I can reboot ok via CAD so the hardware has not
> crashed.
>
> I also have DOS and Windows95 on my boot mananger menu and these boot ok
> and fdisk sees the new drive ok. At this point it had not been
> formatted.
>
> I then used my OS/2 boot floppies and these worked ok - OS/2 fdisk sees
> the new drive as disk 1, SCSI drive as disk 2.
>
> I then thought that it may have something to do with drive letters and
> partitions, so I deleted a small FAT temp partition that OS/2 can see to
> change the drive letters.
>
> No chanage on reboot.
>
> As a test I copied my OS/2 boot partition to the new drive (using
> partition magic) and reset the mb BIOS to boot from the new drive (and
> checked that the copied partition was marked active).
>
> Partial success - OS/2 booted from the new drive but complained about
> the drive letters in config.sys. Changed them to C: and rebooted. Now
> complains about the OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI being corrupt - however OS/2
> gives a PM session and can see the SCSI drives. This also would prove
> that I have all the required device drivers listed in config.sys.
>
> Given this info the only thing I can see as a way forward would be to
> possibly temp remove the SCSI drive, re-install OS/2 on the IDE drive,
> re-install the SCSI drive, remove Boot Manager from SCSI and re-create
> on IDE to allow DOS/Win95 partitions to boot. And also rebuild some of
> my OS/2 apps such as Communicator.
>
> Unless someone out there can suggest something better :)
>
> Regards,
> Michael.


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From: tomp@st.net.au                                    09-Dec-99 22:23:26
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: "Tom Perrett" <tomp@st.net.au>

On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:20:40 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:

>As I've said many times in this group, I've never had a problem with it
>and disks >8GB in size.

I would dearly love to know how you
get PM 3.5 to do that !!!

tom


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From: SkidMARX@att.net                                  09-Dec-99 13:50:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 14:45:13
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: SkidMARX@att.net

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:23:52, "Tom Perrett" <tomp@st.net.au> wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:20:40 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> 
> >As I've said many times in this group, I've never had a problem with it
> >and disks >8GB in size.
> 
> I would dearly love to know how you
> get PM 3.5 to do that !!!
> 
> tom
> 
> 

Tom,

I just loaded up PQM 3.05 on my machine and it reconized my 13gig 
Maxtor, and ALL the partitions I've created on it just fine.  Now I 
haven't actually done anything with PQM so maybe it's an illusion or 
something :=)

Gregory L. Marx
skidmarx@att.net

PS - One disappointing thing was downloading the update via Powerquest
for version 3.  From what I saw there was no mention of OS2 on the 
update page, and you have to have DOS support installed to update the 
OS2 version.  Which seems kind of strange to me.  What if a user 
doesn't have DOS support installed?  The later versions I understand. 
After all they did not have native exe's at that point but version 3 
was native ... just FYI ...

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 17:10:16
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:50:08, SkidMARX@att.net wrote:
snip
> 
> PS - One disappointing thing was downloading the update via Powerquest
> for version 3.  From what I saw there was no mention of OS2 on the 
> update page, and you have to have DOS support installed to update the 
> OS2 version.  Which seems kind of strange to me.  What if a user 
> doesn't have DOS support installed?  The later versions I understand. 
> After all they did not have native exe's at that point but version 3 
> was native ... just FYI ...

I think all the patches have required DOS. In fact, I can't think of a
program that runs outside OS/2 that has *ever* come with an OS/2 
executable for patching.




-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 17:08:09
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:59:55, Michael Voase 
<mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk> wrote:

> Hiya,
> 
> My system is now up and running - the position of the IDE and SCSI drivers
> in the CONFIG.SYS proved to be the problem.
> 
> Incidently is this documented anywhere or has knowledge of this just
> 'happened' through time ?

I don't see any documentation for it, but the rule seems to be: Put 
the BASEDEV first, for the type of HD you're booting OS/2 from. 

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: as@sci.fi                                         09-Dec-99 08:12:18
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: Need help with HD setup

From: Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi>

mpajoh@odot.org writes:

> Hi All;
> I am trying to setup a 13.6 GB HD so that I can have three operating
> system installed, and accessed via boot manager.
> Here is what I thought the HD layout should look like:
>     1- 150 MB, Primary, Maintenance Partition
>     2- 7 MB, Primary, Boot Manager
>     3- balance of 13.6 left blank to install Red Hat Linux
>     4- 1 GB, Primary, NT System
>     5- 3 GB, Logical, NT Apps, NTFS
>     6- 2 GB, Logical, OS/2 System, HPFS
>     7- 3 GB, Logical, OS/2 APPS, HPFS
> 
> The reason I put Linux where it is because, from what I gather, Linux
> will not boot from cylinders greater than 1024.

And as you have noticed, OS/2 doesn't either, which is why you can't
put partition 6 to Boot Manager. So keep the system partitions below
8G. You might rethink the size of your system partitions too.
 
-- 
Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi

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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk                     09-Dec-99 20:26:28
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Recovery lost data (HELP!!)

From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:11:57, Sybille =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=E9tang?= 
<letang.sybille@hydro.qc.ca> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Does anyone know how can I retrieve my data on my HPFS drive? My file
> table has been corrupted, but I desperately need the data on my drive.
> 
> What about Gammatech?  It is a good software?
> 
> Sybille
> 
Have you tried CHKDSK?  What errors, if any, does it give? 
 

Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     09-Dec-99 20:00:17
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 22:23:52 +1000 (EST), Tom Perrett wrote:

->>As I've said many times in this group, I've never had a problem with it
->>and disks >8GB in size.
->
->I would dearly love to know how you
->get PM 3.5 to do that !!!

Run the text mode version of the executable and make sure that you have
protect mode versions of the drivers loading for the disks that you want
to manipulate. I've used PQM v3.05 against my DPT 17GB RAID 5 array and
not had a problem with it.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx                 09-Dec-99 23:14:22
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx (mark davidson)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:20:40, "Trevor Hemsley" 
<Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

> ->It won't let you create or resize a partition larget than 8 GB.
> 
> As I've said many times in this group, I've never had a problem with it
> and disks >8GB in size.

isn't the sticky bit that PM3 works OK on disks > 8 gb but only if the
partitions are first created using os/2 fdisk?  i seem to recall 
having boundary problems when i used partition magic to partition my >
8gb drives.  ultimately used os/2 fdisk for the task and PM3 now sees 
the partitions on my > 8gb drives fine.

regards, .. 
 
> ->SkidMARX@att.net wrote:
> ->
> ->> Being as I'd rather use a "native" version of Partition Magic than
> ->> having to boot into Windows, or setup the special DRDOS boot disks
> ->> supplied with Partition Magic 5, is it safe to use version 3.x (the
> ->> last native Warp exe I believe) with the newer generation large
> ->> capacity drives?
> ->>
> ->> I have a 13gig MAXTOR and would prefer not to screw it up doing a
> ->> resize or such ...
> ->>
> ->> Any help?
> ->>
> ->> Thanks,
> ->> Gregory L. Marx
> ->> skidmarx@att.net
> ->
> 
> Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
> 
> 
> 


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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    09-Dec-99 18:13:23
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: Add IDE into SCSI system failed - ideas ? (bit long)

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <384E483B.D9F4FB2A@mercantile-bs.co.uk>,
Michael Voase <mavoase@mercantile-bs.co.uk> wrote:
>Hiya,
>
>My system is now up and running - the position of the IDE and SCSI drivers
>in the CONFIG.SYS proved to be the problem.
>
>Incidently is this documented anywhere or has knowledge of this just
>'happened' through time ?

It's probably documented "somewhere" ... but I just used common sense
to figure it out when I did it on my system.

It helps to understand "why" it works if you know that the 1st thing
that happens when OS/2 boots is that it switches the processor into
protected mode, and the 2nd thing it does is to disconnect the system
BIOS. If you don't define the IDE drives in the system BIOS, and let
the system boot from the SCSI BIOS, OS/2 will load, install the
drivers specified, and go from there. If the IDE drivers are loaded
BEFORE the SCSI drivers, then the IDE drives will get lettered first.
If the IDE Drivers load AFTER the SCSI drivers, the SCSI drives get
lettered first, and all is  well.

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From: tomp@st.net.au                                    10-Dec-99 17:53:24
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 10:35:21
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: "Tom Perrett" <tomp@st.net.au>

On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:00:34 +0000 (GMT), Trevor Hemsley wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 22:23:52 +1000 (EST), Tom Perrett wrote:
>
>->>As I've said many times in this group, I've never had a problem with it
>->>and disks >8GB in size.
>->
>->I would dearly love to know how you
>->get PM 3.5 to do that !!!
>
>Run the text mode version of the executable and make sure that you have
>protect mode versions of the drivers loading for the disks that you want
>to manipulate. I've used PQM v3.05 against my DPT 17GB RAID 5 array and
>not had a problem with it.
>
>
>Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)

I have created the required text mode disks
out of PQ 3.05 and boot from them, but when
I go to run PQMAGICT on my OS/2 partition
it goes on at me that there are OS/2 things
running, for the life of me I can't see what
is involved???

Tom
>
>



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From: idawson@montupetuk.co.uk                          10-Dec-99 11:29:27
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 10:35:21
Subj: OS2 & Toshiba 300CDT Laptop

From: "ID" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>

I've been trying to install OS2 Warp 3 on a Toshiba 300CDT Laptop.  I
fdisk'd the hard disk to fat16. I inserted the Installation Diskette which
brings up an OS2 symbol in the top left cornet of the screen.  After about a
minute the machine reboots and continually performs the same task again,
never getting to disk 1.

The machine has a 2.1Gb HD with 80Mb Ram.


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From: no.spam@no.spam.org                               10-Dec-99 15:42:20
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: Re: OS2 & Toshiba 300CDT Laptop

From: "Cornelis Bockem?hl" <no.spam@no.spam.org>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:29:54 -0000, ID wrote:

>I've been trying to install OS2 Warp 3 on a Toshiba 300CDT Laptop.  I
>fdisk'd the hard disk to fat16. I inserted the Installation Diskette which
>brings up an OS2 symbol in the top left cornet of the screen.  After about a
>minute the machine reboots and continually performs the same task again,
>never getting to disk 1.
>
>The machine has a 2.1Gb HD with 80Mb Ram.

Sounds rather strange to me: I have a Toshiba 300CDS Laptop with the
same size HD and 48MB RAM, and OS/2 installed there without a flaw!
This of course only means: It _should_ work somehow...

One more difference is that I use HPFS as my file system (which I
would recommend in any case: FAT16 is far less safe and you are
loosing a lot of disk space on HDs of that size, i.e. "huge" in the
old days of DOS and FAT16!

Once you get further with your installation I could give some more
recommendations, but also have a look at the "Notebook/2" site at

http://www.os2ss.com/users/drmartinus/Notebook.htm

in any case: You will find valuable information there.

For you first-time installation I would propose to install "VGA" in
the beginning, even if the installer would propose something else:
You will need GRADD (what I am using) or another C&T driver that is
not included in the installation disk. If you want to use PC-Cards,
just install _any_ brand, because contrary to the video installation
where you always have to deinstall any old ones first (or switch back
to VGA), here you better change an existing installation with new
drivers!

Greetings,
Cornelis Bockemhl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>

--------------------------------------------
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e-mail: cbockem AT datacomm DOT ch
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From: no.spam@no.spam.org                               10-Dec-99 15:47:18
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: OS2 & Toshiba 300CDT Laptop

From: "Cornelis Bockem?hl" <no.spam@no.spam.org>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:42:41 +0100 (CET), Cornelis Bockemhl wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:29:54 -0000, ID wrote:
>
>>I've been trying to install OS2 Warp 3 on a Toshiba 300CDT Laptop.  I
>>fdisk'd the hard disk to fat16. I inserted the Installation Diskette which
>>brings up an OS2 symbol in the top left cornet of the screen.  After about a
>>minute the machine reboots and continually performs the same task again,
>>never getting to disk 1.
>>
>>The machine has a 2.1Gb HD with 80Mb Ram.
>
>Sounds rather strange to me: I have a Toshiba 300CDS Laptop with the
>same size HD and 48MB RAM, and OS/2 installed there without a flaw!
>This of course only means: It _should_ work somehow...
>
>One more difference is that I use HPFS as my file system (which I
>would recommend in any case: FAT16 is far less safe and you are
>loosing a lot of disk space on HDs of that size, i.e. "huge" in the
>old days of DOS and FAT16!

[...]

Oops, another difference of course: I installed Warp4 and you tried
it with Warp3 - however no idea if this matters!

Greetings,
Cornelis Bockemhl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>

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From: svetter@ameritech.net                             10-Dec-99 09:58:19
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Formatting a 100 mb zip drive to HPFS format

From: Scott Vetter <svetter@ameritech.net>

   I have OS/2 V4 with an IOMEGA 100 Mb zip drive attached via a
parallel port.  Is there a way to format a disk with the HPFS format?

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From: johnston@coyote.rain.org                          10-Dec-99 15:51:24
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: Formatting a 100 mb zip drive to HPFS format

From: Richard Johnston <johnston@coyote.rain.org>

Scott Vetter <svetter@ameritech.net> wrote:
>    I have OS/2 V4 with an IOMEGA 100 Mb zip drive attached via a
> parallel port.  Is there a way to format a disk with the HPFS format?

You have to use fdisk (os2) first. create a partiton on the zip disk, save
it, then you can use the command "format x: /fs:hpfs" Works like a charm

dj

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From: svetter@ameritech.net                             10-Dec-99 13:18:21
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: Formatting a 100 mb zip drive to HPFS format

From: Scott Vetter <svetter@ameritech.net>

Richard:

    Thank you for the info.   I'll give it a try.

Scott

-----------------------

Richard Johnston wrote:

> Scott Vetter <svetter@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >    I have OS/2 V4 with an IOMEGA 100 Mb zip drive attached via a
> > parallel port.  Is there a way to format a disk with the HPFS format?
>
> You have to use fdisk (os2) first. create a partiton on the zip disk, save
> it, then you can use the command "format x: /fs:hpfs" Works like a charm
>
> dj

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     10-Dec-99 19:35:15
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:00
Subj: Re: OS2 & Toshiba 300CDT Laptop

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:29:54 -0000, ID wrote:

->I've been trying to install OS2 Warp 3 on a Toshiba 300CDT Laptop.  I
->fdisk'd the hard disk to fat16. I inserted the Installation Diskette which
->brings up an OS2 symbol in the top left cornet of the screen.  After about a
->minute the machine reboots and continually performs the same task again,
->never getting to disk 1.
->
->The machine has a 2.1Gb HD with 80Mb Ram.

Remake the install diskettes from the CD using CDINST.BAT and try again -
this will eliminate a corrupt diskette.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: svetter@ameritech.net                             10-Dec-99 13:42:14
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
Subj: Re: Formatting a 100 mb zip drive to HPFS format

From: Scott Vetter <svetter@ameritech.net>

Richard:

   I tried running FDISK and it stated that I only have on harddrive and the
zip drive (normally G) didn't show up.   Just for fun I tried entering "FDISK
G:" and that didn't work.  Any ideas?  In case it matters or not I am using
the OAD drivers for the zip drive as the documentation says to use this set of
drivers if you are using the parallel port version of an IOMEGA 100 mb zip
drive.

Scott

Richard Johnston wrote:

> Scott Vetter <svetter@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >    I have OS/2 V4 with an IOMEGA 100 Mb zip drive attached via a
> > parallel port.  Is there a way to format a disk with the HPFS format?
>
> You have to use fdisk (os2) first. create a partiton on the zip disk, save
> it, then you can use the command "format x: /fs:hpfs" Works like a charm
>
> dj

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     10-Dec-99 19:38:22
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
Subj: Re: Is it safe to use PQMagic version 3.x on 10+gig UDMA drives ???

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 17:53:49 +1000 (EST), Tom Perrett wrote:

->I have created the required text mode disks
->out of PQ 3.05 and boot from them, but when
->I go to run PQMAGICT on my OS/2 partition
->it goes on at me that there are OS/2 things
->running, for the life of me I can't see what
->is involved???

Make the OS/2 utility diskettes (not connected with Partition Magic at
all) and boot from them. Onto a separate diskette copy PMAGICOT.EXE and
VIOCALLS.DLL and NLS.DLL. Both DLL files are in \os2\dll and PMAGICOT.EXE
is in \PQMAGIC\OS2 if you have applied the 3.05 upgrade.

PQMAGICT.EXE is the DOS text mode executable not the OS/2 version.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             10-Dec-99 23:01:01
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
Subj: (No subject)

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

Tell me about an IDE ZIP drive.

How is it seen by the OS- as a removable device, assigned a drive letter
or what?

I really hate to deal with IOMEGA but I need something for storing
moderate amounts of data and files off my HDD and it appears they are
less trouble than a LS-120.

How about configuring it? What swiches are required on IBM's IDE driver.

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           11-Dec-99 01:00:27
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:23
Subj: Re: IDE ZIP drive was (No subject)

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:01:02, rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) 
wrote:

> Tell me about an IDE ZIP drive.
> 
> How is it seen by the OS- as a removable device, assigned a drive letter
> or what?
> 
> I really hate to deal with IOMEGA but I need something for storing
> moderate amounts of data and files off my HDD and it appears they are
> less trouble than a LS-120.
> 
> How about configuring it? What swiches are required on IBM's IDE driver.

The IDE ZIP drive requires that you have the latest update
for the IDE device drivers installed and that you are using
Fixpack 6 for Warp 4 or later to obtain the removable device
support.

Device drivers have been moved to their own fixpack
series so if you install FP 12 you should also install
the DD01 fixpack.

You can obtain these through RSU updates or through
the FTP site ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/

With the IDE ZIP you just connect it to the IDE cable
(checking for Slave or Master of course) and if you
have the device support installed it comes up automatically.

The base device driver that is required (besides IBM1S506.add)
is IBMATAPI.FLT

Partition the cartridge and format for FAT or HPFS.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             11-Dec-99 02:28:04
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 23:09:10
Subj: Re: IDE ZIP drive was (No subject)

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:00:54, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) 
wrote:
 
> > How about configuring it? What swiches are required on IBM's IDE driver.
 
> The IDE ZIP drive requires that you have the latest update
> for the IDE device drivers installed and that you are using
> Fixpack 6 for Warp 4 or later to obtain the removable device
> support.

Hmmm...I'm using W3 FP 40 and the DANIS IDE driver. Any problems there?

> Device drivers have been moved to their own fixpack
> series so if you install FP 12 you should also install
> the DD01 fixpack.
> 
> You can obtain these through RSU updates or through
> the FTP site ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/
> 
> With the IDE ZIP you just connect it to the IDE cable
> (checking for Slave or Master of course) and if you
> have the device support installed it comes up automatically.
> 
> The base device driver that is required (besides IBM1S506.add)
> is IBMATAPI.FLT
 
> Partition the cartridge and format for FAT or HPFS.

So then is it seen as a HDD, IOW appears in FDISK?

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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