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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  04-Dec-99 02:24:13
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 05:22:12
Subj: Re: Athlon & OS/2

From: The AntiGates <zeppelin@gte.net>

Thanks Richard, 
Sounds as though you and I will be taking similar paths.

Does the Crystal sound chip come with any decent sound tools/toys such
as arudementary synth keyboard (127 voices etc)?

Does the Asus board use an Award or an AMI bios?

Thanks

Richard A Crane wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:12:10, "zeppelin@gte.net"
> <zeppelin@gte.net> wrote:
> 
> > Whelp,
> >
> > I guess it's time to throw out the ol' Cyrix, and reward a few
> > manufacturers for being insightful enough to actually market their
> > products as being OS/2 compatible.
> >
> > The AMD Athlon appears to be a "must".  Does anybody have any input as
> > to which chipset (AMD Irongate, or otherwise) is best suited to OS/2.
> > I've heard that the killer combo is the AMD northgate with the Ali
> > southgate. is there any particular reason for this to be "specially"
> > sweet?
> >
> > Anybody making, or preparing to make an Athlon Mobo with SCSI on the
> > Mobo?
> >
> > Matrox's G400 seems to be the best in breed for OS/2 video. Any of these
> > g400's have a TV out that fuctions through bios rather than drivers (as
> > many of the ATI PC2TV cards did)?
> >
> > Sound (dirty question, huh?) anybody making a high quality PCI soundcard
> > that has good WIN-OS2 drivers?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > --
> > "Windows N.T."  ........OS/2 for the masses?
> >
> >
> I just finished my research on these issues and ordered
> Athlon + ASUSTek K7-M Main Board with Matrox Millenium G400
> 32 MB SGRAM and Aopen AW230 PCI Sound (plus a few other
> bits)
> Richard A Crane
> Barrister & Solicitor
> slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> octa4.net.au
> OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: alberth@ibm.net                                   03-Dec-99 22:06:13
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 05:22:12
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover

From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>




> On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:53:24 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:
>
> ->with default IBM1S506.ADD /W, get detection OK.
>
> So now you need to make sure that you have the other lines I quoted
> before.

Hi!
Tried dir I: from OS/2 window.  No drive.
Checked that all files were present, Mr. Hemsley.
The latest IBM1S506.ADD set includes an IBMATAPI.FLT.  Tried with and
without that one.
The upshot:  cd-rom drive detected usually by BIOS and always by ADD.
Both HDD and cd-rom at UDMA2 devices.  But no joy.  Cd-rom is absent
from operating system desktop and OS/2 window.

Haven't had time yet to go through older IBM1S506.ADD et al and try.
Thanks for your help.   I hope you guys can figure this out for me!  Al
Howard



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From: Robert.Nowell@USA.Net                             03-Dec-99 19:16:13
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 05:22:12
Subj: seamless winos2

From: Robert Nowell <Robert.Nowell@USA.Net>


Last month when I read the rumor about FP40 being the last and final
Warp3 (non server) patch, I figured I better do something.

Now, I lost seamless WINOS2 again but ONLY when Netscape v2.02 has
been started on the WSPS desktop.  If any another tcpip application
(WebEx, FTP, etc)  is started, I can open any winos2 application
without problem.

I can hear you now -- Why don't I just get Netscape Comm 4.x?

I like 2.02.  I do not want another (10MB download) large scale net
suite.  Besides, NetNav2.02 used to allow seamless winos2 applications
to work back in the days of FP27.

Any suggestions sure would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Robert

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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi                             04-Dec-99 09:34:29
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: Problem with OS2PCARD.DMD (changes drive names)

From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 17:07:36, oliver.rick@oor.de (Oliver Rick) wrote:

> Do not use any *primary* partition(s) on other harddisks than the first
> (only an extended partition with logical drive(s), that applies to
> removable media drives as well).

I only have one hard disk and only its first partition is primary.

> I don't know how OS2PCARD.DMD works, but is it located before OS2DASD.DMD
> in the CONFIG.SYS?

I think this was my problem: OS2PCARD.DMD was located before 
OS2DASD.DMD. I moved it to the very end of CONFIG.SYS (following the 
advice found in an IBM Red Book on PCMCIA).

> You can reserve drive letters by adding RESERVEDRIVELETTER=<letter> to
> your CONFIG.SYS, but that doesn't work for direct access devices like your
> harddisk. It may work if OS2PCARD.DMD works a little different from
> OS2DASD.DMD, but I don't think it does.

I'll try to play with RESERVEDRIVELETTER, just in case it allows be to
manage better my virtual disk (SVD), CDROM, ATE-drive etc. The problem
is, I never have them at the same time (in fact some are mutually 
exclusive since I only have one free PCMCIA slot).

Thanks for your valuable contribution,

Dominique

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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk                     04-Dec-99 10:15:05
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: ICQ for OS/2

From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:28:10, "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net> wrote:

> Does anyone know of an ICQ or equivalent for OS/2 Warp? Or how about an
> AOL instant messenger (ICQ for AOL I think??) I was looking/hoping for
> native OS/2 coded apps...
> 
> Just checking....
> 
> Ken
> 
Search Hobbes for ICQ and you'll find plenty of ICQ ports.  I've tried
icqb153f.zip and it seems to works OK.


Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     04-Dec-99 11:15:09
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 22:06:26 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:

->The latest IBM1S506.ADD set includes an IBMATAPI.FLT.  Tried with and
->without that one.
->The upshot:  cd-rom drive detected usually by BIOS and always by ADD.
->Both HDD and cd-rom at UDMA2 devices.  But no joy.  Cd-rom is absent
->from operating system desktop and OS/2 window.

It's not the files that need to be present but the lines in CONFIG.SYS. To
repeat, these are

basedev=ibm1s506.add
basedev=ibmidecd.flt
device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q

The only optional one here is vcdrom.sys which provides support for CD
drives in OS/2 DOS windows. If any of the others are missing from
CONFIG.SYS then you will not see your CD. If CDFS.IFS is missing then you
may see an icon for your CD but it'll look like a hard disk and won't be
accessible. IBMATAPI.FLT is not used for CD drives and should be removed
from your CONFIG.SYS unless you have something like a ZIP drive or an
LS-120 (which is what it's for).


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: alberth@ibm.net                                   04-Dec-99 10:55:23
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover

From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>

Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 22:06:26 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:
>
> ->The latest IBM1S506.ADD set includes an IBMATAPI.FLT.  Tried with and
> ->without that one.
> ->The upshot:  cd-rom drive detected usually by BIOS and always by ADD.
> ->Both HDD and cd-rom at UDMA2 devices.  But no joy.  Cd-rom is absent
> ->from operating system desktop and OS/2 window.
>
> It's not the files that need to be present but the lines in CONFIG.SYS. To
> repeat, these are
>
> basedev=ibm1s506.add
> basedev=ibmidecd.flt
> device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
> device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
> ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q
>
> The only optional one here is vcdrom.sys which provides support for CD
> drives in OS/2 DOS windows. If any of the others are missing from
> CONFIG.SYS then you will not see your CD. If CDFS.IFS is missing then you
> may see an icon for your CD but it'll look like a hard disk and won't be
> accessible. IBMATAPI.FLT is not used for CD drives and should be removed
> from your CONFIG.SYS unless you have something like a ZIP drive or an
> LS-120 (which is what it's for).

Hi!  Thanks for the fast turnaround.  I should have been more careful in my
report.
The files are on the system and properly listed in the config.sys file.
I wasn't sure about the IBMATAPI.FLT so I left it in the config.sys file where
the device driver install placed it.   I'll rem it out.
But I am not getting access to the cd-rom. :-)  Aggravating thing.
Thanks again.  Al Howard

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From: dpalmer@olywa.net                                 04-Dec-99 17:49:04
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Y2K hardware fix for OS/2

From: dpalmer@olywa.net

Had my  head in the sand for quite a while.
Now I gotta get the grit out of my mouth and get going.

Have an old 408/80 at a small volunteer office witn Warp/3.
Won't replace it - but do need to fix the hardware date
problem.  Application software okay.

Anyone had experience with either of Y2000 Pro Card or
Y2000 Pro Software?

Do they work in OS/2 machines?
Thanks,

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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              04-Dec-99 13:00:22
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:19
Subj: Re: Y2K hardware fix for OS/2

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

You don't need them.  IBM was smart/kind enough to write drivers to fix the
hardware problems in software.  They are part of the latest fixpacks.  The
easiest thing to do is order the WarpUp! CD from Indelible Blue.  It analyzes
your system and automates the fixpack installes.  Here is the
url:

	http://www.indelible-blue.com/ibapps/products.nsf/by+partnumber/IBI203


All you need is a cd rom drive and webexplorer to do the updates.  Just make
sure to read everything carefully.  It has safegaurds in place to make sure
you do everything in the correct order, but there can be a few hangups.
	

On Sat, 04 Dec 1999 17:49:08 GMT, dpalmer@olywa.net wrote:

:>Had my  head in the sand for quite a while.
:>Now I gotta get the grit out of my mouth and get going.
:>
:>Have an old 408/80 at a small volunteer office witn Warp/3.
:>Won't replace it - but do need to fix the hardware date
:>problem.  Application software okay.
:>
:>Anyone had experience with either of Y2000 Pro Card or
:>Y2000 Pro Software?
:>
:>Do they work in OS/2 machines?
:>Thanks,


		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)918-2480



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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Dec-99 18:30:22
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:19
Subj: Re: floppy streamer and IRQ problem

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:14:29, 
jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens) wrote:

> > What is happening, is that the streamer requires data at a constant 
> > speed. If something slows that data down, the tape must be 
> > repositioned to pick up where it runs out of data. Refreshing a screen
> > can take a considerable amount of time, and computer resources, 
> 
> Hi Doug,
> I think this is possible with a 486 or slow pentium, but with a 
> pentium II ?
> A while ago it worked fine, with a normal pentium 133. I don't know 
> what changed. Ohh...just have an idea: I think I changed compression 
> to "ultra", maybe this is the reason and you are right, than its the 
> CPU.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jens
> 

You are, probably, using a higher screen resolution as well, which 
could take much longer to redraw the screen, even with a fast machine.
Compressing more, takes more CPU time, and results in less data, so 
the data stream could run out of data faster.

A couple of suggestions (which may, or may not, help):
1) Change the line "MAXWAIT=3" (in CONFIG.SYS) to "MAXWAIT=1", or 
"MAXWAIT=2", which might give more time slices to the backup program.
2) Change the line "PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES" (in CONFIG.SYS) to 
"PRIORITY_DISK_IO=NO", which will give any background programs (your 
backup program, if you have taken the focus away from it), better 
access to the hard disk.

I suspect that you will still get a few tape reposition actions, but 
the above changes *might* make it work acceptably.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Dec-99 18:30:22
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:19
Subj: Re: seamless winos2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 03:16:27, Robert Nowell <Robert.Nowell@USA.Net> 
wrote:

> 
> 
> Last month when I read the rumor about FP40 being the last and final
> Warp3 (non server) patch, I figured I better do something.
> 
> Now, I lost seamless WINOS2 again but ONLY when Netscape v2.02 has
> been started on the WSPS desktop.  If any another tcpip application
> (WebEx, FTP, etc)  is started, I can open any winos2 application
> without problem.
> 
> I can hear you now -- Why don't I just get Netscape Comm 4.x?
> 
> I like 2.02.  I do not want another (10MB download) large scale net
> suite.  Besides, NetNav2.02 used to allow seamless winos2 applications
> to work back in the days of FP27.
> 
> Any suggestions sure would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Robert

Just a guess, but try increasing the number of files that can be open 
at any one time:
Right click on the WinOS2 icon-> Session-> WinOS2 settings-> OK-> and 
change DOS_FILES to something over 150 (I use 255, and it seems to 
work). Don't forget to do ALL of your WinOS2 icons, as well as 
WIN-OS/2 Setup in System Setup, since WinOS2 uses the last image that 
is still loaded, and that could be loaded form any  one of your icons.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@b...               04-Dec-99 18:50:07
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:19
Subj: Re: floppy streamer and IRQ problem

Message sender: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch

From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens)

Hi Doug,

just checked it without compression - it's the same.
Even if I keep away from the machine: little screen updates like 
changing numbers from the backup program itself cause the tape to do a
lot of postitioning.

It must be something with interrupts...

Jens

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From: Robert.Nowell@USA.Net                             04-Dec-99 10:54:24
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:19
Subj: Re: seamless winos2

From: Robert Nowell <Robert.Nowell@USA.Net>

On 4 Dec 1999 18:30:44 GMT, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug
Bissett) wrote:


>>
>> Now, I lost seamless WINOS2 again but ONLY when Netscape v2.02 has
>> been started on the WSPS desktop.  If any another tcpip application
>> (WebEx, FTP, etc)  is started, I can open any winos2 application
>> without problem.
>> 
>> <SNIP>
>
>Just a guess, but try increasing the number of files that can be open 
>at any one time:
>Right click on the WinOS2 icon-> Session-> WinOS2 settings-> OK-> and 
>change DOS_FILES to something over 150 (I use 255, and it seems to 
>work). Don't forget to do ALL of your WinOS2 icons, as well as 
>WIN-OS/2 Setup in System Setup, since WinOS2 uses the last image that 
>is still loaded, and that could be loaded form any  one of your icons.
>


    Bingo!

Thanks, (more than works can express)

Robert

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From: dtander@agts.net                                  04-Dec-99 19:09:08
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:19
Subj: Re: ICQ for OS/2

From: dtander@agts.net (David T. Anderson)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:28:10, "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net> wrote:

> Does anyone know of an ICQ or equivalent for OS/2 Warp? Or how about an
> AOL instant messenger (ICQ for AOL I think??) I was looking/hoping for
> native OS/2 coded apps...

Okay, one solution is to use ICQ-Java from the Mirabilis site.  It is 
fairly easy to set up and runs quite well.  If you are a Java 
enthusiast, this might be your answer.

There is also a very-beta native ICQ/2 available at 
http://members.home.com/momotek/icq2/  .  

It is still a bit flaky, and somewhat feature-limited [no file 
transfers, for eg.], but I am already using it in preference to 
ICQ-Java...ICQ/2 is much easier on resources, starts faster and has a 
IRC-style interface I greatly prefer to the 'disappearing boxes' of 
the standard Mirabilis ICQ versions.

David T. Anderson
Calgary, Alberta
http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/

Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp

**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

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From: dmckenn@attglobal.net                             04-Dec-99 15:54:01
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:21
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?

From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@attglobal.net>

On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 05:06:28 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:

>try re-installing 2.31, but this time make sure there are no duplicate copies
>of pmgax64.dll laying around (run dir /s pmgax64.dll from c:\) - also if
you're
>using dialog enhancer, uninstall it before applying 2.31 then re-apply it
after
>its installed.  
>
 dink,

    Thanks... the Dialog Enhancer was the problem. After removing it, I
installed version 2.36 of the Matrox drivers and they work fine now. That's
one thing about DE that makes it seem more complicated than neccesary -
having to remember everything it changes.

   No joy with RealPlayer though.. I still get GPFs in USER.EXE :>(

Dave McKenna


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From: vlad@mail.netwave.de                              04-Dec-99 20:42:09
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:21
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: vlad@mail.netwave.de (Vlad Berditchevskiy)

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:09:47, osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) wrote:

> >How about the other way around?  Is there perhaps a
> >driver to get OS/2 to read and write NTFS partitions?
> 
> Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997: 
> 
> ntfs_003.zip 
>      NTFS IFS (file system driver) for OS/2 

This is NOT an IFS! This archive includes some tools to access NTFS 
partitions in read only mode (list directories, copy files etc).

-- 
cul8r_______________________________________________________________
                                        e-mail: vlad@mail.netwave.de
\  /                                            vlad@tzi.org
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From: kenzur@swbell.net                                 04-Dec-99 15:17:25
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:22
Subj: Re: ICQ for OS/2

From: "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net>

Thanks for the info. I've installed the ICQ/2 beta, you are right - it is
BETA.
I guess I could take a look at the JAVA version next.


Ken

--
Is Microsoft a Tiger?

There once was a lady from Niger
Who smiled as she rode on a Tiger
They returned from the ride
With the lady inside
And the smile on the face of the Tiger.
Glen D <glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:y7xHJI5dddgW-pn2-uqxyKpn7MPty@dialup157.coruscant.kingston-internet.net
...
| On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:28:10, "J. Ken Zur" <kenzur@swbell.net> wrote:
|
| > Does anyone know of an ICQ or equivalent for OS/2 Warp? Or how about an
| > AOL instant messenger (ICQ for AOL I think??) I was looking/hoping for
| > native OS/2 coded apps...
| >
| > Just checking....
| >
| > Ken
| >
| Search Hobbes for ICQ and you'll find plenty of ICQ ports.  I've tried
| icqb153f.zip and it seems to works OK.
|
|
| Glen D
| -<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-
|


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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             04-Dec-99 22:19:24
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:22
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:09:47, osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) wrote:

> In article <826h7o$npm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Stephane Charette
<charette@writeme.com> says:
> >
> >I have to also use NT 4.0 on my OS/2 development
> >workstation at work.  Is there a method by which I
> >can get NT 4.0 to read and write my HPFS partitions?
> 
> Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997: 
> 
> hpfs_nt4.zip 
>      file size: 104 K (106465 bytes)
>      file date: Jan 01,1997
>      path: util/diskutil/ 
> 
>      Allows Windows NT 4 to read OS/2 HPFS drives 
> 
> makes the NT4.0 registry works. You need hpfs support file
> from NT3.51 package. There might be even some troubles.

> Osmo

There are atleast 2 others around, on Hobbes I think.
hpfsnt.zip 850119 bytes, didn't seem to set up the registry correctly &
hpfsnt.zip 588637 bytes, installed and works fine.
Both of these include pinball.sys from NT3.51.

-- 
Dave

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From: alberth@ibm.net                                   04-Dec-99 16:33:12
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:22
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover

From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>

Dear Trevor Hemsley,
    I used the /v switches with ibmidecd.flt.  The report was:
IBM ATAPI (IDE) CDROM   filter for OS/2 2.x & 3.x (960405)
Controller: 0     Base Port: 170     IRQ:   F; Status = OK

This confuses me since the cdrom is installed on controller: 1, not 0,  which
has the same base port and IRQ as reported.   Is this possibly the problem?
Thanks, Al Howard


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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk                     05-Dec-99 00:07:03
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:22
Subj: Pentium -> K6-2

From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)

Hi all,

I'm planning on upgrading my P133 to a K6-2 400.  Is a reinstall 
necessary?  IOW does OS/2 install any Pentium specific files that the 
K6-2 doesn't like?

TIA


Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-

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From: calcio@erie.net                                   05-Dec-99 00:15:09
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: Help w/ Setup in dual drive system

From: calcio@erie.net

I read the manual for the install options for the OS/2 version 3 I
just received. However, these options don't include just installing
OS/2 to a lone hard drive with nothing else on it in a dual system. It
does cover doing a dual boot but on the same hd just with different
partitions. I am running a Gateway with a 6 gig primary hd c: and a 1
gig slave hd d:. I wish to install OS/2 to the slave and nothing else
on the slave. I know I won't be able to use windows apps with it, I
already have windows on c:. So, it wouldn't matter to me. Will I be
able to do this? How? and Will I be able to use boot manager in this
configuration? Thanks much for any info. 

Jim

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From: bjorn_and@geocities.com                           05-Dec-99 01:24:18
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: PCMCIA installation

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Andersson <bjorn_and@geocities.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to get PCMCIA to work on a no-name laptop.

Windows 98 reports the controller to be O2 Micro 6860/6836, and
everything works fine there.

In OS/2, the drivers SS2PCIC1.SYS, and IBM2TOS1.SYS are accepted, I can
boot and open the "Plug and Play for PCMCIA" - status window. But, If I
try to insert a PCMCIA-card (I have three to choose from, same result
with all of them), OS/2 locks so bad I have to do a hard-reset. The same
happens if there is a card inserted in a slot when the OS/2 boots.

Does anyone know if it is at all possible to get this controller to work
in OS/2, or does anyone have any ideas why the computer locks when a
card is inserted?

I have tried some other socket drivers, but if they are accepted, they
will crash the same way as described above if there is a card in a slot.

Thanks!
Bjrn
*-----------------------------------------------*
Developer of KON, a PM text-editor for OS/2.
Download Kon at:
http://www.bmtmicro.com/kon

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From: bjorn_and@geocities.com                           05-Dec-99 02:13:17
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: Re: PCMCIA installation

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Andersson <bjorn_and@geocities.com>

New info: I've commented out "AUTODRV2.SYS" and now I can insert a card,
without crashes. "Plug and Play for PCMCIA" notices there is a card
inserted, but just calls it "serial".

At least it seems like the controller works then. But i would like my
modem to work.. it's a Powerbit-PCMCIA28.

Thanks!
//Bjrn



Bjrn Andersson wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to get PCMCIA to work on a no-name laptop.
> 
> Windows 98 reports the controller to be O2 Micro 6860/6836, and
> everything works fine there.
> 
> In OS/2, the drivers SS2PCIC1.SYS, and IBM2TOS1.SYS are accepted, I can
> boot and open the "Plug and Play for PCMCIA" - status window. But, If I
> try to insert a PCMCIA-card (I have three to choose from, same result
> with all of them), OS/2 locks so bad I have to do a hard-reset. The same
> happens if there is a card inserted in a slot when the OS/2 boots.
> 
> Does anyone know if it is at all possible to get this controller to work
> in OS/2, or does anyone have any ideas why the computer locks when a
> card is inserted?
> 
> I have tried some other socket drivers, but if they are accepted, they
> will crash the same way as described above if there is a card in a slot.
> 
> Thanks!
> Bjrn
> *-----------------------------------------------*
> Developer of KON, a PM text-editor for OS/2.
> Download Kon at:
> http://www.bmtmicro.com/kon

-- 
*-----------------------------------------------*
Developer of KON, a PM text-editor for OS/2.
Download Kon at:
http://www.bmtmicro.com/kon

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    05-Dec-99 01:37:24
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: Re: Help w/ Setup in dual drive system

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 00:15:19, calcio@erie.net wrote:

> I read the manual for the install options for the OS/2 version 3 I
> just received. However, these options don't include just installing
> OS/2 to a lone hard drive with nothing else on it in a dual system. It
> does cover doing a dual boot but on the same hd just with different
> partitions. I am running a Gateway with a 6 gig primary hd c: and a 1
> gig slave hd d:. I wish to install OS/2 to the slave and nothing else
> on the slave. I know I won't be able to use windows apps with it, I
> already have windows on c:. So, it wouldn't matter to me. Will I be
> able to do this? How? and Will I be able to use boot manager in this
> configuration? Thanks much for any info. 

No problem. Except that Boot Manager must go on the first drive since 
it only works and boots from there.

If you have no space on the first drive, use PartitionMagic or 
equivelent to free up space. You need only one cylinder.

Boot the install, and reject teh drive offered for install. This drops
you into FDISK.

Install the Boot Manager in the space on the first drive. Set it 
Startable (i.e. the active partition, the one the BIOS boots). Add the
existing C: to the boot manager menu.

Then create a LOGICAL drive on the second hard drive (that is, inside 
an extended partition). This will avoid messing up any drive letters 
and help to insulate you from any future changes. Add that to the boot
manu. Mark it installable. Press F3 and save the changes, then off you
go.

After the install, pick what you want from the boot manager menu!
-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: dunmunro@direct.ca                                05-Dec-99 02:03:10
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro)

If you use pinball.sys make sure you keep your hpfs partitions smaller
than 4gigs.

Duncan

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 22:19:49 +0100, dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave
Parsons) wrote:

>On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:09:47, osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) wrote:
>
>> In article <826h7o$npm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Stephane Charette
<charette@writeme.com> says:
>> >
>> >I have to also use NT 4.0 on my OS/2 development
>> >workstation at work.  Is there a method by which I
>> >can get NT 4.0 to read and write my HPFS partitions?
>> 
>> Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997: 
>> 
>> hpfs_nt4.zip 
>>      file size: 104 K (106465 bytes)
>>      file date: Jan 01,1997
>>      path: util/diskutil/ 
>> 
>>      Allows Windows NT 4 to read OS/2 HPFS drives 
>> 
>> makes the NT4.0 registry works. You need hpfs support file
>> from NT3.51 package. There might be even some troubles.
>
>> Osmo
>
>There are atleast 2 others around, on Hobbes I think.
>hpfsnt.zip 850119 bytes, didn't seem to set up the registry correctly &
>hpfsnt.zip 588637 bytes, installed and works fine.
>Both of these include pinball.sys from NT3.51.
>
>-- 
>Dave
>

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From: dunmunro@direct.ca                                05-Dec-99 02:09:29
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: Pentium -> K6-2

From: dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro)

You should be able to swap CPUs with no reinstall needed. 

However, your MB must support split voltage CPUs and have 2.2v core
support for your new CPU. You will almost certainly need a bios
upgrade so check the MB manufacturers webpage.  To get 400mhz you will
set your MB jumpers to 2x clock multiplier and the CPU will read this
as a 6x multiplier.
The K6-3 400 with its onboard 256k l2 cache performs much better than
the k6-2 400 when used on a 66mhz bus. It might be worth the few extra
$$s.

Duncan

On 5 Dec 1999 00:07:06 GMT, glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)
wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I'm planning on upgrading my P133 to a K6-2 400.  Is a reinstall 
>necessary?  IOW does OS/2 install any Pentium specific files that the 
>K6-2 doesn't like?
>
>TIA
>
>
>Glen D
>-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           05-Dec-99 02:24:26
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: Pentium -> K6-2

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 00:07:06, glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D) 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm planning on upgrading my P133 to a K6-2 400.  Is a reinstall 
> necessary?  IOW does OS/2 install any Pentium specific files that the 
> K6-2 doesn't like?
> 

It's supposed to work.

I've moved boot disks from P100 to P II to AMD
based motherboads without any problems

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            05-Dec-99 02:31:04
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: ICQ for OS/2

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

Are you sure you want to use ICQ? Somebody wrote (either in a Newsgroup
or on Compuserve) that using ICQ is like putting a ladder up to the open
window of the room where you keep all your valuables and hanging out a
sign saying "Help yourself."

I've never tried ICQ myself.

Alan


"J. Ken Zur" wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of an ICQ or equivalent for OS/2 Warp? Or how about an
> AOL instant messenger (ICQ for AOL I think??) I was looking/hoping for
> native OS/2 coded apps...
> 
> Just checking....
> 
> Ken

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     05-Dec-99 00:23:17
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sat, 04 Dec 1999 16:33:24 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:

->    I used the /v switches with ibmidecd.flt.  The report was:
->IBM ATAPI (IDE) CDROM   filter for OS/2 2.x & 3.x (960405)
->Controller: 0     Base Port: 170     IRQ:   F; Status = OK

Looks like a bug in that it appears to be enumerating the controllers
depending on whether it has found a CD on them or not rather than in
strict numerical order (as it should). It looks like a cosmetic bug though
and shouldn't affect anything. I've never used /V on IBMIDECD.FLT so don't
known if it should list the CDs it finds.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             05-Dec-99 02:03:17
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: PCMCIA installation

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

Did you configure the autoconfigurator, or just use the defaults?   
Sounds like the default may be causing a hardware conflict.  No idea 
on the chipset, but if you need some quidance on configuring the 
Autoconfigurator check out my article in the VOICE Newsletter - 
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL1099H/vnewsf6.htm  A better
resource is an IBM TP redbook - 
http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/support/thinkpad/uguide/600/c79ehm24.htm

Mark

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 01:13:34, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Andersson 
<bjorn_and@geocities.com> wrote:

-)New info: I've commented out "AUTODRV2.SYS" and now I can insert a card,
-)without crashes. "Plug and Play for PCMCIA" notices there is a card
-)inserted, but just calls it "serial".
-)
-)At least it seems like the controller works then. But i would like my
-)modem to work.. it's a Powerbit-PCMCIA28.
-)
-)Thanks!
-)//Bjrn
-)
-)
-)
-)Bjrn Andersson wrote:
-)> 
-)> Hi,
-)> 
-)> I'm trying to get PCMCIA to work on a no-name laptop.
-)> 
-)> Windows 98 reports the controller to be O2 Micro 6860/6836, and
-)> everything works fine there.
-)> 
-)> In OS/2, the drivers SS2PCIC1.SYS, and IBM2TOS1.SYS are accepted, I can
-)> boot and open the "Plug and Play for PCMCIA" - status window. But, If I
-)> try to insert a PCMCIA-card (I have three to choose from, same result
-)> with all of them), OS/2 locks so bad I have to do a hard-reset. The same
-)> happens if there is a card inserted in a slot when the OS/2 boots.
-)> 
-)> Does anyone know if it is at all possible to get this controller to work
-)> in OS/2, or does anyone have any ideas why the computer locks when a
-)> card is inserted?
-)> 
-)> I have tried some other socket drivers, but if they are accepted, they
-)> will crash the same way as described above if there is a card in a slot.
-)> 
-)> Thanks!
-)> Bjrn
-)> *-----------------------------------------------*
-)> Developer of KON, a PM text-editor for OS/2.
-)> Download Kon at:
-)> http://www.bmtmicro.com/kon
-)
-)-- 
-)*-----------------------------------------------*
-)Developer of KON, a PM text-editor for OS/2.
-)Download Kon at:
-)http://www.bmtmicro.com/kon

--

---------------------------------------------------------
 From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
             Healthcare Computer Consultant
                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel

  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
---------------------------------------------------------
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From: dink@dontspamme.com                               05-Dec-99 01:00:07
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>

On Sat, 04 Dec 1999 15:54:03 -0500 (EST), David McKenna wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 05:06:28 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:
>
>>try re-installing 2.31, but this time make sure there are no duplicate
copies
>>of pmgax64.dll laying around (run dir /s pmgax64.dll from c:\) - also if
you're
>>using dialog enhancer, uninstall it before applying 2.31 then re-apply it
after
>>its installed.  
>>
> dink,
>
>    Thanks... the Dialog Enhancer was the problem. After removing it, I
>installed version 2.36 of the Matrox drivers and they work fine now. That's
>one thing about DE that makes it seem more complicated than neccesary -
>having to remember everything it changes.
>
>   No joy with RealPlayer though.. I still get GPFs in USER.EXE :>(

Bummer..  =(  maybe try running it fullscreen?  its worth a shot.
.. at least the driver problem got taken care of! =)


- dink ( http://dink.org )





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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      05-Dec-99 18:18:04
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 05:18:05
Subj: Re: ICQ for OS/2

From: "Khairil Yusof" <mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au>

On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 02:31:08 GMT, Alan Beagley wrote:

>Are you sure you want to use ICQ? Somebody wrote (either in a Newsgroup
>or on Compuserve) that using ICQ is like putting a ladder up to the open
>window of the room where you keep all your valuables and hanging out a
>sign saying "Help yourself."
>
>I've never tried ICQ myself.

FUD?

It's not that secure sure, but it's for real time messenging/chats and file
transfers. 
Unless you have set file transfers to auto or something it's not that
dangerous. There 
are also problems with people faking nicks/UINs etc. but ICQ is mostly used by 
me for 
contact with friends. If you're under 25, you'll realize that most of your
friends on the 
net are also using it. 

For secure stuff there's always PGP/Email. Then again, you can always have no 
TCP/IP ports open and stay offline =)

I try to never make a judgement on anything, until I've used it.


----------------------------------------
       ICQ : 5783742	                            
  Homepage : http://hayai.freeshell.org
PGP Key Id : 0x6FFEFD7F


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From: cwr@cts.com                                       05-Dec-99 07:37:19
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 05:18:05
Subj: Re: Fixpak 42 installation -- Warp 3

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Tim Irvin <ziggy29@pacbell.net> wrote:

: I'm having trouble getting this to work.

: I'm trying to do an installation using the "SERVICE" command 
: (not with disks or through RSU; RSU is not an option over a
: 33.6 modem connection, IMO).

: I have all of the .zip files (xr_w042*.zip); I have cs_141.exe
: as well.

: I'm trying to follow the instructions for 
: "Download and unzip files manually" as listed in 
: http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html.

: I have extracted cs_141.exe to c:\csf141 by running 
: "cs_141 c:\csf141". I created that directory before running it.

: I have unzipped all the FP42 zip files to c:\fp42.  They all 
: unzipped successfully and there were about 20 of them.

: I then issued the following commands:

: cd c:\csf141
: set csfutilpath=c:\csf141
: set csfcdromdir=c:\fp42
: service

: And the CSF utility comes back telling me that there is nothing
: serviceable to update.  (There was no prior fixpak on this
: installation.)

: As far as I can tell, what I have done is exactly following the
: instructions to the letter (except for the location of the 
: directories, which shouldn't matter).

: Any ideas?

The easiest way is probably to run dskxtrct (from Hobbes) on the
fixpack images, and then use fservice with a response file.  Since
I can never remember the arguments, I put the fservice call into
a .cmd file (dskxtrct has several examples, from which the files
below were built).  If the boot partition is d:, and the unpacked
fixpack is in d:\fixpack, and the cs_141 stuff is in d:\service,
then this is the command file, d:\csd\appos240.cmd:

@echo Hit Ctrl-Break when you see the prompt to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del
@echo then shut down and reboot if you're running from a maintenance
@echo partition or type 'exit' if you're working from an Alt-F2 full-screen
@echo session.
@pause
d:\service\fservice /s:d:\fixpack /r:d:\csd\appos240.fil
/L1:d:\os2\install\service.log

(Note that the command above is one long line).

This is the response file, d:\csd\appos240.fil:

:LOGFILE d:\OS2\INSTALL\SERVICE.LOG
:FLAGS REPLACE_PROTECTED REPLACE_NEWER
:SOURCE d:\fixpack
:SERVICE
:SYSLEVEL d:\os2\install\syslevel.os2
:ARCHIVE d:\ARCHIVE


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 05-Dec-99 09:55:22
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:07
Subj: Re: Fixpak 42 installation -- Warp 3

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

Will Rose <cwr@cts.com> wrote:

>: And the CSF utility comes back telling me that there is nothing
>: serviceable to update.  (There was no prior fixpak on this
>: installation.)
>
>: As far as I can tell, what I have done is exactly following the
>: instructions to the letter (except for the location of the 
>: directories, which shouldn't matter).
>
>: Any ideas?

Dont forget that FP42 is for Warp Server only.  It will not install
anything onto Warp or Warp Connect.

These is a fudge available (at hobbes I daresay) which involves
fooling the CSF into thinking you have Warp Server, but I've not tried
it.

Craig

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From: xxctheronxx@xxiafricaxx.com                       05-Dec-99 14:29:25
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:08
Subj: Small Fonts for WIN-OS2

From: "Chris Theron" <xxctheronxx@xxiafricaxx.com>

I use a S3 Trio 3D video card. Installing  its driver  adds a new object
"S3 Windows Font Size" to the System Setup Folder. This allows one to 
choose between "large" or "small" fonts for Win/OS2  sessions.  
I particularly like the small fonts because in some of my Win-OS2 
apps it paints the whole Windows window in the Win-OS2 window,  
whereas with the "large fonts I have to keep on scrolling left/right  
and up/down. Unfortunately there are other 'not so nice' things in 
this driver's behaviour.

I have looked at the IBM GRADD080 driver, and like it a lot, but I 
cannot get the "small" fonts like in the S3 driver, although I 
suspect that it ought to be possible.

I have looked at the WIN.INI files in the two scenarios, and in the 
S3 case  there are two entries:

  Small Fonts (VGA res)=smalle.fon
  Small Fonts (8514/a res)=smallf.fon

The second of these two is not present in the IBM GRADD080 version. 
I have tried to add it, but it still does not give me the small  
fonts.

I would really appreciate it if someone can show/tell me EXACTLY 
what to add or change in ALL the files that need to be changed  
to give me the desired effect.

BTW, I have also looked at the latest (B11) beta of Schitec's 
Display doctor, but there are similar problems to what I 
experience with the S3 Driver




Chris Theron
Durbanville
South Africa


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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk                     05-Dec-99 11:59:20
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:08
Subj: Re: Help w/ Setup in dual drive system

From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 00:15:19, calcio@erie.net wrote:

> I read the manual for the install options for the OS/2 version 3 I
> just received. However, these options don't include just installing
> OS/2 to a lone hard drive with nothing else on it in a dual system. It
> does cover doing a dual boot but on the same hd just with different
> partitions. I am running a Gateway with a 6 gig primary hd c: and a 1
> gig slave hd d:. I wish to install OS/2 to the slave and nothing else
> on the slave. I know I won't be able to use windows apps with it, I
> already have windows on c:. So, it wouldn't matter to me. Will I be
> able to do this? How? and Will I be able to use boot manager in this
> configuration? Thanks much for any info. 
> 
> Jim

Yes, this is how my system is set up.  My primary master has Boot 
Manager at the beginning of the drive followed by my C: partition, 
which holds Windows.  My primary slave has just OS/2 on it.  You can 
add partitions from other drives onto the Boot Manager menu.  I've 
never used Dual Boot but I've heard it's more trouble than it's worth.
 Boot Manager is the better choice.


Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-

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From: Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net                 05-Dec-99 15:42:26
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Java 1.1.8 won't install

From: "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net>


I can't get Java 1.1.8 to install on this machine.  Instaled just fine on the
server.  Both Warp 4 with FP11.

When i load up the install program/nutscrape I do not get the little buttons
on the bottom.  Thought I would be slick, read the source and enter in the
correct next page.  That doesn't help.  THe other machine went fine.

What gives?


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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             05-Dec-99 23:10:13
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:29
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:03:20, dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro) wrote:

> If you use pinball.sys make sure you keep your hpfs partitions smaller
> than 4gigs.
> 
> Duncan

Yes, I usually keep all my partitions at about 2GBytes, mainly
for archiving reasons.
However, do you know of any solutions which do not depend
upon pinball.sys?

-- 
Dave

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           05-Dec-99 18:04:16
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 won't install

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:42:52, "Dave" 
<Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> I can't get Java 1.1.8 to install on this machine.  Instaled just fine on
the
> server.  Both Warp 4 with FP11.
> 
> When i load up the install program/nutscrape I do not get the little buttons
> on the bottom.  Thought I would be slick, read the source and enter in the
> correct next page.  That doesn't help.  THe other machine went fine.
> 
> What gives?
> 
> 

This is what happens if the Feature Installer is not set up
properly.

Try running the FISETUP program. This should move the
NPFI.DLL plugin to the Netscape plugins directory.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  06-Dec-99 03:37:15
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: Software Choice

From: The AntiGates <zeppelin@gte.net>

I am a SC member, and being so pretty much represents the only IBM
"sponsored" future for OS/2, I heartily recommend it.  In addition to
getting every update to Netscape and Java in 59 different languages, you
get a second CD with every distribution with such goodies as  TCP-IP 4.1
which is only available on a fee pay basis otherwise.

Plus whenever IBM pulls another "groanhead" maneuver with OS/2, youget
to complain directly to IBM, and unlike the rest of the world, they will
respond directly to you as a "premium service" subscribor.

It doesn't mean squat in terms of influencing their decisions, cause no
one with any intelligence can do that, but it is a small consolation to
know that the particular lie in you e-mail box has been personally
crafted just for you,.

Charles Christacopoulos wrote:
> 
> Tim Martin wrote:
> >
> > John Brock wrote:
> >
> > > In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> > > James Stotz  <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> > > >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> > > >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> > > >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free.  If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> > > >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money.  Also,
> > > >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
> 
> Software choice has always been for complete packages and not fixes (or
> fixes which in effect upgrade a package to a newer version).  Fixes are
> free if you can find them,  However, if a fix results in a newer version
> then you cannot buy the new version unless you are part of software
> choice.  Examples, newer version of tcpip for warp server, PSNS for warp
> server and so on.
> 
> I am not sure they can get away with charging either for Java or
> Netscape, remains to be seen.
> 
> From a business point of view it does make sence for IBM to know what is
> the subscription rate as the income generated may indicate interest in
> os/2.  From this end, I have to buy licences for my OS/2 server(s), it
> would make business sence for us too.  However, buying licences for
> clients can be an expensive recurrent cost (I guess financial
> institutions can be happy to pay it and may even negotiate better
> prices).
> 
> Charles
> 
> --
> Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
> Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
> Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
> http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
> Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
> too)

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  06-Dec-99 03:37:25
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: Software Choice

From: The AntiGates <zeppelin@gte.net>

I am a SC member, and being so pretty much represents the only IBM
"sponsored" future for OS/2, I heartily recommend it.  In addition to
getting every update to Netscape and Java in 59 different languages, you
get a second CD with every distribution with such goodies as  TCP-IP 4.1
which is only available on a fee pay basis otherwise.

Plus whenever IBM pulls another "groanhead" maneuver with OS/2, youget
to complain directly to IBM, and unlike the rest of the world, they will
respond directly to you as a "premium service" subscribor.

It doesn't mean squat in terms of influencing their decisions, cause no
one with any intelligence can do that, but it is a small consolation to
know that the particular lie in you e-mail box has been personally
crafted just for you,.

Charles Christacopoulos wrote:
> 
> Tim Martin wrote:
> >
> > John Brock wrote:
> >
> > > In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> > > James Stotz  <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> > > >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> > > >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> > > >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free.  If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> > > >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money.  Also,
> > > >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
> 
> Software choice has always been for complete packages and not fixes (or
> fixes which in effect upgrade a package to a newer version).  Fixes are
> free if you can find them,  However, if a fix results in a newer version
> then you cannot buy the new version unless you are part of software
> choice.  Examples, newer version of tcpip for warp server, PSNS for warp
> server and so on.
> 
> I am not sure they can get away with charging either for Java or
> Netscape, remains to be seen.
> 
> From a business point of view it does make sence for IBM to know what is
> the subscription rate as the income generated may indicate interest in
> os/2.  From this end, I have to buy licences for my OS/2 server(s), it
> would make business sence for us too.  However, buying licences for
> clients can be an expensive recurrent cost (I guess financial
> institutions can be happy to pay it and may even negotiate better
> prices).
> 
> Charles
> 
> --
> Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
> Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
> Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
> http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
> Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
> too)

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  06-Dec-99 03:38:05
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: Software Choice

From: The AntiGates <zeppelin@gte.net>

I am a SC member, and being so pretty much represents the only IBM
"sponsored" future for OS/2, I heartily recommend it.  In addition to
getting every update to Netscape and Java in 59 different languages, you
get a second CD with every distribution with such goodies as  TCP-IP 4.1
which is only available on a fee pay basis otherwise.

Plus whenever IBM pulls another "groanhead" maneuver with OS/2, youget
to complain directly to IBM, and unlike the rest of the world, they will
respond directly to you as a "premium service" subscribor.

It doesn't mean squat in terms of influencing their decisions, cause no
one with any intelligence can do that, but it is a small consolation to
know that the particular lie in you e-mail box has been personally
crafted just for you,.

Charles Christacopoulos wrote:
> 
> Tim Martin wrote:
> >
> > John Brock wrote:
> >
> > > In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> > > James Stotz  <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> > > >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> > > >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> > > >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free.  If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> > > >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money.  Also,
> > > >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
> 
> Software choice has always been for complete packages and not fixes (or
> fixes which in effect upgrade a package to a newer version).  Fixes are
> free if you can find them,  However, if a fix results in a newer version
> then you cannot buy the new version unless you are part of software
> choice.  Examples, newer version of tcpip for warp server, PSNS for warp
> server and so on.
> 
> I am not sure they can get away with charging either for Java or
> Netscape, remains to be seen.
> 
> From a business point of view it does make sence for IBM to know what is
> the subscription rate as the income generated may indicate interest in
> os/2.  From this end, I have to buy licences for my OS/2 server(s), it
> would make business sence for us too.  However, buying licences for
> clients can be an expensive recurrent cost (I guess financial
> institutions can be happy to pay it and may even negotiate better
> prices).
> 
> Charles
> 
> --
> Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
> Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
> Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
> http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
> Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
> too)

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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             05-Dec-99 20:12:10
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: Small Fonts for WIN-OS2

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>

Chris Theron wrote:
> 
> I use a S3 Trio 3D video card. Installing  its driver  adds a new object
> "S3 Windows Font Size" to the System Setup Folder. This allows one to
> choose between "large" or "small" fonts for Win/OS2  sessions.
> I particularly like the small fonts because in some of my Win-OS2
> apps it paints the whole Windows window in the Win-OS2 window,
> whereas with the "large fonts I have to keep on scrolling left/right
> and up/down. Unfortunately there are other 'not so nice' things in
> this driver's behaviour.
> 
> I have looked at the IBM GRADD080 driver, and like it a lot, but I
> cannot get the "small" fonts like in the S3 driver, although I
> suspect that it ought to be possible.

The GRADD drivers are pretty sound but they will probably be a little
slower than the S3 driver.  I don't have a machine around right now with
the GRADD drivers on it but I *think* there was a similar thing
somewhere for the small Win-OS2 fonts.  Every driver does this a little
differently.  For example, on the Matrox drivers there's a Matrox object
that you right click on to bring up a "settings" book a la Warp 3.  One
of the pages in the notebook has options for small fonts.  I think the
GRADD driver does something similar.  Right click on the video "system"
object and see what's there.  Or look for another new object...

> 
> I have looked at the WIN.INI files in the two scenarios, and in the
> S3 case  there are two entries:
> 
>   Small Fonts (VGA res)=smalle.fon
>   Small Fonts (8514/a res)=smallf.fon
> 
> The second of these two is not present in the IBM GRADD080 version.
> I have tried to add it, but it still does not give me the small
> fonts.
> 
> I would really appreciate it if someone can show/tell me EXACTLY
> what to add or change in ALL the files that need to be changed
> to give me the desired effect.
> 
> BTW, I have also looked at the latest (B11) beta of Schitec's
> Display doctor, but there are similar problems to what I
> experience with the S3 Driver
> 
> Chris Theron
> Durbanville
> South Africa

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From: nboothe@ibm.net                                   05-Dec-99 23:06:09
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Avpro.drv

From: Norton Boothe <nboothe@ibm.net>

Inadvertent delete of this file in Warp 4. But needed for dual boot to
win3.1 which looks in c:\avpro\avpro.drv without results.. Thus. no win
but dos ok.
I have looked all over the drive amd W4 CD, but no luck. Anyone know
where it lurks on installation? Or where I can download a replacement?

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From: aljohnson@centuryinter.net                        06-Dec-99 07:10:03
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 05:15:24
Subj: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: aljohnson@centuryinter.net

What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the various 
flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and let me know.  

Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.

Allen

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           06-Dec-99 07:51:15
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 05:15:24
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:10:06, aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:

> What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
various 
> flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and let me
know.  
> Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.
> 

OS/2 2.11 4 to 16 Mbyte
OS/2 3 8 to 16 Mbyte
OS/2 3 Connect 8 to 32 Mbyte (networking needs RAM)
OS/2 4 16 to 64 Mbyte
OS/2 4.5 (WSeB) 64 to 128 Mbyte

All OS/2 versions perform better with more RAM
Warp 3 and 4 do best with 64 Mbyte 
Warp 3 Connect using TCP/IP will beat itself to death with 8 Mbyte

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: rlackl1@attglobal.net                             06-Dec-99 01:39:18
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 05:15:24
Subj: DOIP

From: rlackl1@attglobal.net

I know there was some discussion of this here a couple of months ago but
unfortunately I didn't save it.

I can get the alternate SLIP dialer to dial, connect and log in, but I
can't get it to work with Netscape (2.02) or MR/2 ICE.  It just sits
there.

Tried using Linkup, but that doesn't work either (beyond dialing in and
logging in).

What am I doing wrong?  It's got to be something simple but I can't see
it.

-------
rlackl1@attglobal.net
-------

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From: mcbrides@erols.com                                06-Dec-99 07:02:16
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride)

In article <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-rZzJSh0PecdF@tcpserver>,
lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:10:06, aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:
>
>> What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
various
>> flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and let me
know.
>> Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.
>>
>
>OS/2 2.11 4 to 16 Mbyte
>OS/2 3 8 to 16 Mbyte
>OS/2 3 Connect 8 to 32 Mbyte (networking needs RAM)
>OS/2 4 16 to 64 Mbyte
>OS/2 4.5 (WSeB) 64 to 128 Mbyte
>
>All OS/2 versions perform better with more RAM
>Warp 3 and 4 do best with 64 Mbyte
>Warp 3 Connect using TCP/IP will beat itself to death with 8 Mbyte
>

If your work happens to NOT require the GUI, you could run the older version
OS/2 in as little as 4meg. I haven't had the pleasure to run 4.0 and 4.5 in
text mode only, but expecting good results in 8meg shouldn't be unreasonable.

TSHELL, is still available as EWS.

--

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        06-Dec-99 14:51:08
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:04
Subj: Sound on IBM PC730

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

I'm trying to get sound working properly on my PC730 under WSeB....

During installation no Multimedia Devices were auto-detected, don't
know why that should. I'm not exactly sure which driver is required,
but there is a chip on the motherboard which says Crystal CS4231A-K0,
so I guess CS4231 must be the right one - it's one of the available options,
and I do get sound when I select this, at least under OS/2....

How do I get sound support in DOS and Windows? 

Also, when trying to configure this driver under OS/2, a number of options
are available, Port Address, IRQ, DMA settings etc. none of which mean
much to me. Is it safe to assune the defaults are correct, especially
if I am getting sound?

--
John

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From: hoppie@kub.nl                                     06-Dec-99 14:37:03
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:04
Subj: CDROM autostart?

From: hoppie@kub.nl (JeroenHoppenbrouwers)

We are creating a universal startup CDROM for a certain large free
wordprocessing package. It contains all the files for W*, OS/2 and various
Unix
brands. For W* I can have it do autostart on insert. Is this possible for OS/2
as well?

--
dr.ir. Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers, Senior Researcher at  |  Stop re-using code;
Infolab, Tilburg University, The Netherlands        |  start re-using ideas!
http://infolab.kub.nl/people/hoppie

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From: mfbear@nospamplease.earthlink.net                 06-Dec-99 10:29:11
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:05
Subj: Re: Cyrix GX based machine; TRAP 000e

From: Matt Bear <mfbear@nospamplease.earthlink.net>

Just a quick thank you to everyone who tried to help me with this.  The
darn thing just would not work with warp.  Of course, it wouldn't work
with NT or Linux either, so apparently I'll be suffering..err using 98
on it after all.

Oh well.  Could be worse.  I think.

Matt Bear wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> I have a Cyrix based machine here that I want to use as a webserver on
> my home LAN.  Each time I try to get Warp 4 installed on it, I get a
> TRAP 000E at a different point in the install process.  Originally I
> couldn't get past disk 2, then disk 3, now I can't get it to go at all.
> 
> The machine has a Cyrix GX 166, revision 3.2, 16MB of RAM, and a 4.3GB
> Seagate IDE drive.  There are several integrated pheripherals on the
> motherboard, but all have been disabled (no sound, serial, or parallel
> ports, only onboard video).
> 
> I have tried the direct floppy install as well as a remote install with
> an old 3COM card adn gotten the same results each time.
> 
> The RAM worked fine in another machine I have here, so I don't think
> it's bad.
> 
> Has anyone been able to get os/2 to install on a Cyrix based system, or
> am I just wasting my time?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Matt
> 
> mfbear AT earthlink DOT net

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From: jnichols@tcia.net                                 06-Dec-99 10:33:27
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:05
Subj: Re: Please Help with Yamaha SCSI CD-ReWritable Drive.

From: jnichols@tcia.net

In <afnkbazvaqfcevatpbz.fm4mbb1.pminews@news.mindspring.com>, on 12/02/99 
   at 01:35 PM, "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com> said:

>On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:32:57 GMT, pjfloyd@my-deja.com wrote:

>>In article <afnkbazvaqfcevatpbz.fm3he60.pminews@news.mindspring.com>,
>>  "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How's it going?
>>
>>> I've just got my Yamaha CRW6416S and it refuses to work. This is
>>> the only internal SCSI device (ID=3) on my Adaptec 2940. It has
>>> two external devices, JAZZ(ID=2) and UMAX Astra 1220S(ID=5)
>>> working OK.
>>
>>> Terminator is on, parity is on.
>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>>A few questions first.
>>
>>When you boot, if you enter the Adaptec BIOS setup
>>(some magic key cmobination that gets shown on the
>>screen during boot) does it show the drive OK?

>Yep.

Did you lower the tranfer rate in Adaptec Bios.
Sometimes if it set to high Bios say ok and Warp 
want use the setup.

Try rmview from inside epm editor.

epm: E:\ >rmview /p

Adapter: AIC7870_0  Adaptec AIC7870 
Device Type: MS-SCSI        Bus/Width: PCI 32 BIT
I/O = 0XE000  Len =  16  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16 
IRQ Level = 10  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = SHARED       

Device: DISK_(0,0)  SEAGATE  ST34501W         0018      DISK         
Device: CDROM_(2,0)  TOSHIBA  CD-ROM XM-6201TA 1037      CDROM        
Device: CDROM_(3,0)  YAMAHA   CRW6416S         1.0c      CDROM        
Device: DISK_(4,0)  iomega   jaz 1GB          J.86      DISK         
Device: SCANNER_(6,0)           Scanner 600      1.91      SCANNER      

Later,
Nick



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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          06-Dec-99 16:09:19
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:05
Subj: Re: CDROM autostart?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:37:06, hoppie@kub.nl (JeroenHoppenbrouwers) 
wrote:

> We are creating a universal startup CDROM for a certain large free
> wordprocessing package. It contains all the files for W*, OS/2 and various
Unix
> brands. For W* I can have it do autostart on insert. Is this possible for
OS/2
> as well?

No, I don't believe so, I wouldn't tell you if I did know, and I will 
personally thank you not to include it if you *do* find a way. 

There's nothing about WIN9x that causes me more anger than this 
bonehead "feature". (Except the hangs and crashes, of course.)

When I want to access something on one of my CD drives, I'll click on 
something on my desktop. Until then, don't waste CPU cycles trying to 
out-think me, please?

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: AFECU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU                             06-Dec-99 11:48:05
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 16:29:25
Subj: Re: Sound on IBM PC730

From: Aron Eisenpress <AFECU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

In article <384bcd64.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John
Poltorak) says:
>
>I'm trying to get sound working properly on my PC730 under WSeB....
>
>During installation no Multimedia Devices were auto-detected, don't
>know why that should. I'm not exactly sure which driver is required,
>but there is a chip on the motherboard which says Crystal CS4231A-K0,
>so I guess CS4231 must be the right one - it's one of the available options,
>and I do get sound when I select this, at least under OS/2....
>
>How do I get sound support in DOS and Windows?
>
>Also, when trying to configure this driver under OS/2, a number of options
>are available, Port Address, IRQ, DMA settings etc. none of which mean
>much to me. Is it safe to assune the defaults are correct, especially
>if I am getting sound?
>
>--
>John
 
 
John,
 
The driver I use (on my ISA PC 730) is from cwos2175.zip at the Cirrus
(who bought Crystal) web site, at
http://www.cirrus.com/drivers/audiodrv/os2.html.  It does Windows sound
too (I'm not sure if I've tried sound under DOS).
 
I did have to make a change in CONFIG.SYS - on the BASEDEV=CWAUDIO.SYS line,
remove the /L: parameter so that the "line" input will be muted.  I'm not
sure what device it corresponds to on this system, but I got terrible
noises if I didn't do that.
 
I also recall having to make a change in a Windows file, probably
CS32BA11.INI, to prevent sound from being totally disabled on exiting
Windows, but I can't find that right now and can't verify it's still
needed.  It might have been in the DOS/Windows driver.
 
As for the driver options, you basically need to make sure they're
the same as in the BIOS setup...
 
Hope this helps!
-------
 
 -- Aron Eisenpress, City U of NY / Computing & Information Services
    (email: afecu@cunyvm.cuny.edu)

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From: mirage@iae.nl                                     06-Dec-99 18:03:07
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 16:29:25
Subj: Abit BE6?

From: Mirage Media <mirage@iae.nl>

Anyone have any experience (good or bad) installing Os/2 Warp 4 on this
board?

Thanks,

Corey
Mirage Media
Nuenen, The Netherlands

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From: MPAdams@pacifier.com                              06-Dec-99 12:54:04
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: Sound on IBM PC730

From: "Martin Adams" <MPAdams@pacifier.com>

I'm having similar problem with Win NT4.0 on my PC750. I see no detect new
hardware in the control panel. It isn't that important, just wondering

Martin Adams

John Poltorak <jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk> wrote in message
news:384bcd64.0@katana.legend.co.uk...
> I'm trying to get sound working properly on my PC730 under WSeB....
>
> During installation no Multimedia Devices were auto-detected, don't
> know why that should. I'm not exactly sure which driver is required,
> but there is a chip on the motherboard which says Crystal CS4231A-K0,
> so I guess CS4231 must be the right one - it's one of the available
options,
> and I do get sound when I select this, at least under OS/2....
>
> How do I get sound support in DOS and Windows?
>
> Also, when trying to configure this driver under OS/2, a number of options
> are available, Port Address, IRQ, DMA settings etc. none of which mean
> much to me. Is it safe to assune the defaults are correct, especially
> if I am getting sound?
>
> --
> John


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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      06-Dec-99 16:57:08
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: CDROM autostart?

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <82ghmi$b2f$1@mailnews.kub.nl>, hoppie@kub.nl (JeroenHoppenbrouwers)
writes:

>We are creating a universal startup CDROM for a certain large free
>wordprocessing package. It contains all the files for W*, OS/2 and various
Unix
>brands. For W* I can have it do autostart on insert. Is this possible for
OS/2
>as well?

I don't think so.  I prefer OS/2's behavior in this.  As far as
I'm concerned the Win CD autostart "feature" is a major annoyance
and I always turn it off when I'm using a Win machine.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           06-Dec-99 20:04:01
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: Boot manager and NT4

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:46:38, scarebuszug@hotmail.com wrote:

> I have a plan:
> Install Boot manager.
> Create a 1GB DOS partiton
> Create a 4 GB Win 98 partition
> Create a 4 GB Win NT partition.
> 
> Run OS 2 from an extended partition.
> 
> Question:  Will this work?
> 

Yes, but not with the partition sizes you have 
decided to use.

Boot Manager requires that the bootable partitions
be wholly within the first 1024 cylinders of the disk.
This is a BIOS limitation.

Both your Win NT partition and the extended partition 
will be outside of that limit if it follows the patition layout
given.

Also, you can only have 4 partitions on a
disk, and that includes the partition that contains
the extended partition. Your layout will require 5.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: scarebuszug@hotmail.com                           06-Dec-99 19:46:19
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Boot manager and NT4

From: scarebuszug@hotmail.com

I have a plan:
Install Boot manager.
Create a 1GB DOS partiton
Create a 4 GB Win 98 partition
Create a 4 GB Win NT partition.

Run OS 2 from an extended partition.

Question:  Will this work?


Thanks

Please remove zug to reply
Gerry

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    06-Dec-99 22:08:05
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Lorne Sunley (lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca) wrote:

: On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:10:06, aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:

: > What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
: > various flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and
: > let me know.  Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.

: OS/2 2.11 4 to 16 Mbyte
: OS/2 3 8 to 16 Mbyte

	Sort of.  OS/2 2.11 never treated memory as well as Warp 3 did, 
at least that is what it says in the OS/2 Unleashed book.  OS/2 Warp 3 
with 4 MB of RAM the author said felt like OS/2 2.11 with 8 MB of RAM or 
something to that effect.  Something about Warp 3 handling memory much 
better than 2.X series.

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From: barrowcl@flash.net                                06-Dec-99 21:18:02
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Registration

From: "George Barrowcliff" <barrowcl@flash.net>

How can I stop the annoying elephant registration screen from reappearing?

TIA, GWB


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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        06-Dec-99 20:55:15
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: PMMERGE problems

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

I am getting errors with access violations (SYS3175) in PMMERGE.DLL when
running certain programs.

Does anyone know what is likely to cause this? Maybe video drivers?...

--
John

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From: tonyi@attglobal.net                               06-Dec-99 19:15:28
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:28
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>

Warp 3 had a major page tuning effort done to it.  All aspects of the system
were reworked with respect to locked memory usage and working set.

However, IMO 2.11 is somewhat faster in unconstrained environments.

 Tony

John Hong <jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca> wrote in message
news:82hc4a$gdl$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
> Lorne Sunley (lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca) wrote:
>
> : On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:10:06, aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:
>
> : > What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
> : > various flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me
and
> : > let me know.  Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.
>
> : OS/2 2.11 4 to 16 Mbyte
> : OS/2 3 8 to 16 Mbyte
>
> Sort of.  OS/2 2.11 never treated memory as well as Warp 3 did,
> at least that is what it says in the OS/2 Unleashed book.  OS/2 Warp 3
> with 4 MB of RAM the author said felt like OS/2 2.11 with 8 MB of RAM or
> something to that effect.  Something about Warp 3 handling memory much
> better than 2.X series.
>


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From: cbloyd@compuserve.com                             06-Dec-99 16:03:06
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:29
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: "Carroll Bloyd" <cbloyd@compuserve.com>

> OS/2 4.5 (WSeB) 64 to 128 Mbyte

I have Warp 3installed on one system (9533) and Warp 4 installed on two
systems (9577, 9595), but I've not heard of OS/2 4.5 (WSeB).  Is this the
Aurora server or something else?

Thanks,

Carroll



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From: jnichols@tcia.net                                 06-Dec-99 17:07:23
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:29
Subj: Re: Registration

From: jnichols@tcia.net

In <hKV24.8685$0p4.963955@news.flash.net>, on 12/06/99 
   at 09:18 PM, "George Barrowcliff" <barrowcl@flash.net> said:

>How can I stop the annoying elephant registration screen from
>reappearing?

>TIA, GWB


Boot from Utility disk then Delete "ART" directory
in X:\OS2\Art.

I haven't tied the below option.

Here a little utility I saved from Fidonet echo.

Have a REXX script that will switch him on or off.

============================= SWTCHART.CMD
=================================
/* REXX program to disable/enable the dancing elephant      */

/* Copyright (C) 1998, David W. Noon                        */ /* All
rights reserved.                                     */

/* You may use this code freely. You may also distribute it */ /* freely
provided no charge is levied beyond that of its   */ /* distribution
medium.                                     */

/* Register REXXUTIL */
CALL RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs','REXXUTIL','SysLoadFuncs'
CALL SysLoadFuncs

/* Obtain the command line argument */
ARG Setting

SELECT
   WHEN Setting == 'OFF' THEN
   DO
      /* Set DISABLED switch in OS2.INI */
      CALL SysIni 'USER','PM_Workplace:ART','DISABLED','00'X
      /* Remove ENABLED switch from OS2.INI */
      CALL SysIni 'USER','PM_Workplace:ART','ENABLED','DELETE:'
      SAY 'Re-IPL your system and the elephant is quiet.'
   END

   WHEN Setting == 'ON' THEN
   DO
      /* Build standard path/filename */
      Path_filename = SysBootDrive() || ':\OS2\ART\ARTCHRON.EXE' ||,
            '00'X
      /* Set ENABLED switch in OS2.INI */
      CALL SysIni 'USER','PM_Workplace:ART','ENABLED',Path_filename
      /* Remove DISABLED switch from OS2.INI */
      CALL SysIni 'USER','PM_Workplace:ART','DISABLED','DELETE:'
      SAY 'Re-IPL your system and the elephant dances once more.'
   END

   OTHERWISE
      SAY 'Unrecognized option "' || Setting ||,
            '". Only ON and OFF are valid.'
END

EXIT 0
============================================================================

Use SWTCHART OFF in an OS/2 command session and re-boot your machine. Art
the elephant is gone until you decide to bring him back, if ever.
 


Later,
Nick


-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
jnichols@tcia.net
-----------------------------------------------------------

         

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    06-Dec-99 17:25:21
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:29
Subj: Re: DOIP

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <384ac007$2$eynpxy1$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
rlackl1@attglobal.net wrote:
>I know there was some discussion of this here a couple of months ago but
>unfortunately I didn't save it.
>
>I can get the alternate SLIP dialer to dial, connect and log in, but I
>can't get it to work with Netscape (2.02) or MR/2 ICE.  It just sits
>there.

Sounds like your connection is not finding a DNS server (to resolve
the Domain Name). Check your C:\MPTN\ETC directory for a file named
"resolv" (no quotes) and see if it has the information for your ISP
and DNS server. Mine looks like this:

domain iquest.net
nameserver 206.246.140.95


If you don't have an MPTN directory (used for LAN setup and
connections) look in the C:\TCPIP\ETC directory (substitute your boot
drive for C: if you don't boot from drive C:).

--
**************************************************************
*  Dan Casey                                                 *
*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
**************************************************************
*  E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key             *
**************************************************************

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From: sfactual@erols.com                                06-Dec-99 17:55:00
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:29
Subj: Re: Registration

From: Jon Schuck <sfactual@erols.com>

There have been a thousand postings on this over the years.  Go to
x:\os2\install\installed features directory, click on  "install object" and
check the ART box.  This will uninstall ART, the registration tool.  you may
then safely delete the ART directory.

The more interesting question I have is ... how do you Register using ART?  I
did this once years ago, but in a more recent install (say a year ago), it
didn't work.  Does IBM not care?

George Barrowcliff wrote:

> How can I stop the annoying elephant registration screen from reappearing?
>
> TIA, GWB

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           07-Dec-99 00:28:17
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:17
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:55:31, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
Poltorak) wrote:

> I am getting errors with access violations (SYS3175) in PMMERGE.DLL when
> running certain programs.
> 
> Does anyone know what is likely to cause this? Maybe video drivers?...
> 

Depends on what the error is. Video drivers seem to cause
their fair share, but it could also be the application program
or a bug in the PMMERGE routine called, or a bug in the
application program.

The popuplog.os2 file in the root directory of your boot
drive has a record of the register dump. Let us see what 
that is and maybe we'll have a better idea.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: rcmartin@netcom.com                               07-Dec-99 02:10:21
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: Boot manager and NT4

From: rcmartin@netcom.com

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:04:03, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) 
wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:46:38, scarebuszug@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> > I have a plan:
> > Install Boot manager.
> > Create a 1GB DOS partiton
> > Create a 4 GB Win 98 partition
> > Create a 4 GB Win NT partition.
> > 
> > Run OS 2 from an extended partition.
> > 
> > Question:  Will this work?
> > 
> 
> Yes, but not with the partition sizes you have 
> decided to use.
> 
> Boot Manager requires that the bootable partitions
> be wholly within the first 1024 cylinders of the disk.
> This is a BIOS limitation.
> 
> Both your Win NT partition and the extended partition 
> will be outside of that limit if it follows the patition layout
> given.
> 
> Also, you can only have 4 partitions on a
> disk, and that includes the partition that contains
> the extended partition. Your layout will require 5.

I think it depends what kind of a setup he has, i.e. 
PC/BIOS/HD. On my PC the "1024 cylinder limit" is 
at around 8.4GB, and Warp4 is installed beginning 
at 6GB through 7.5GB (so within the first 8GB).

As far as primaries on a single HD, yes, the limit is a 
total of 4. Warp being installed on a logical volume
will not add a primary, i.e. there only will be a count of
1 for the extended partition. The 2nd primary is taken
up by BM. This leaves 2 OSes he can install on C:
primaries. I am not sure about NT. AFAIK NT can
be installed on a logical volume. If that is the case
he could install all the OSes he has listed assuming
NT will run under OS2 bootmanager.

There are a couple of known problems though. One
is that OS2 bootmanager does not handle FAT32
correctly, and the other one is that _any_ BM will
not work quite correctly unless the last partition 
under BM is an "MS-DOS compatible file system"
(AFAIK it is a Win98/DOS bug which requires this
to be so).

I have both these conditions existing on my system,
and so far it has only shown up as some quirky behaviour;
no real integrity problem has surfaced so far. <knock
on wood>
Rosemarie 

> 
> --
> 
> Lorne Sunley
> 


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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        07-Dec-99 02:04:09
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <384c52bd_1@news1.prserv.net>, "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>
writes:
>Warp 3 had a major page tuning effort done to it.  All aspects of the system
>were reworked with respect to locked memory usage and working set.
>
>However, IMO 2.11 is somewhat faster in unconstrained environments.

That was not my experience at all. OS/2 v3 was so much faster than v2+.
The kernel itself was greatly reduced so didn't take up so much memory.

> Tony
>
--
John

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From: tonyi@attglobal.net                               06-Dec-99 23:06:28
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>

*UNCONSTRAINED*

When Warp was released, few if any machines had enough memory to run
unconstrained save for a few high end servers and such.  32M of memory was
virtually unheard of at the time.

 Tony

John Poltorak <jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk> wrote in message
news:384c6b22.0@katana.legend.co.uk...
> In <384c52bd_1@news1.prserv.net>, "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>
writes:
> >Warp 3 had a major page tuning effort done to it.  All aspects of the
system
> >were reworked with respect to locked memory usage and working set.
> >
> >However, IMO 2.11 is somewhat faster in unconstrained environments.
>
> That was not my experience at all. OS/2 v3 was so much faster than v2+.
> The kernel itself was greatly reduced so didn't take up so much memory.
>
> > Tony
> >
> --
> John


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From: hoppie@kub.nl                                     07-Dec-99 06:34:09
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: CDROM autostart?

From: hoppie@kub.nl (JeroenHoppenbrouwers)

I agree with both of you completely concerning the bad side of Autostart
but if this is what our customer asks us to do... you get the point.

Glad OS/2 does not support it  :-)

--
dr.ir. Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers, Senior Researcher at  |  Stop re-using code;
Infolab, Tilburg University, The Netherlands        |  start re-using ideas!
http://infolab.kub.nl/people/hoppie

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From: sander@fransen.com                                07-Dec-99 09:22:12
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Sound on IBM PC730

From: "zz" <sander@fransen.com>

Try my homepage of the PC730 http://sander.fransen.com

The crystal4231 is the infamous: Microsoft Windows SoundSystem. The right
io, irq and dma-settings can be set/read in the "bios". Windows can't detect
them, so you will have to set them manually. The Win98 MSS driver has a
"soundblaster" compatibility-selector, which in fact means "dos
compatibility". But since it is called "WINDOWS" soundsystem...

Sander

"John Poltorak" <jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk> wrote in message
news:384bcd64.0@katana.legend.co.uk...
> I'm trying to get sound working properly on my PC730 under WSeB....
>
> During installation no Multimedia Devices were auto-detected, don't
> know why that should. I'm not exactly sure which driver is required,
> but there is a chip on the motherboard which says Crystal CS4231A-K0,
> so I guess CS4231 must be the right one - it's one of the available
options,
> and I do get sound when I select this, at least under OS/2....
>
> How do I get sound support in DOS and Windows?
>
> Also, when trying to configure this driver under OS/2, a number of options
> are available, Port Address, IRQ, DMA settings etc. none of which mean
> much to me. Is it safe to assune the defaults are correct, especially
> if I am getting sound?
>
> --
> John


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From: sander@fransen.com                                07-Dec-99 09:23:10
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Sound on IBM PC730

From: "zz" <sander@fransen.com>

Multimedia|add driver|have disk

NT doesn't plugnplay, but it has SoundSystem drivers OOB.
"Martin Adams" <MPAdams@pacifier.com> wrote in message
news:384c1e53.0@news.pacifier.com...
> I'm having similar problem with Win NT4.0 on my PC750. I see no detect new
> hardware in the control panel. It isn't that important, just wondering
>
> Martin Adams
>
> John Poltorak <jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:384bcd64.0@katana.legend.co.uk...
> > I'm trying to get sound working properly on my PC730 under WSeB....
> >
> > During installation no Multimedia Devices were auto-detected, don't
> > know why that should. I'm not exactly sure which driver is required,
> > but there is a chip on the motherboard which says Crystal CS4231A-K0,
> > so I guess CS4231 must be the right one - it's one of the available
> options,
> > and I do get sound when I select this, at least under OS/2....
> >
> > How do I get sound support in DOS and Windows?
> >
> > Also, when trying to configure this driver under OS/2, a number of
options
> > are available, Port Address, IRQ, DMA settings etc. none of which mean
> > much to me. Is it safe to assune the defaults are correct, especially
> > if I am getting sound?
> >
> > --
> > John
>
>


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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               07-Dec-99 09:56:28
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Boot manager and NT4

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

scarebuszug@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have a plan:
> Install Boot manager.
> Create a 1GB DOS partiton
> Create a 4 GB Win 98 partition
> Create a 4 GB Win NT partition.
> 
> Run OS 2 from an extended partition.
> 
> Question:  Will this work?

No if you have a single disk.  You should be able to create max 4
partitions and boot manager counts as 1.  Any free space you have will
be left unusable (my experince using SCSI disks but this should not
matter).

Charles

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From: colin@haynes97.freeserve.co.uk                    07-Dec-99 10:17:16
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Registration

From: colin@haynes97.freeserve.co.uk

I registered when I first got Warp 4 (um, a few years ago......), and 
got a nice letter from IBM Denmark thanking me for registering.

I was naive enough to think they might want to keep in contact with me
regarding new features, other stuff they wanted to sell, but I've had 
nothing at all since.

Colin


On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:55:01, Jon Schuck <sfactual@erols.com> wrote:

> There have been a thousand postings on this over the years.  Go to
> x:\os2\install\installed features directory, click on  "install object" and
> check the ART box.  This will uninstall ART, the registration tool.  you may
> then safely delete the ART directory.
> 
> The more interesting question I have is ... how do you Register using ART? 
I
> did this once years ago, but in a more recent install (say a year ago), it
> didn't work.  Does IBM not care?
> 
> George Barrowcliff wrote:
> 
> > How can I stop the annoying elephant registration screen from reappearing?
> >
> > TIA, GWB
> 


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From: scarebuszug@hotmail.com                           07-Dec-99 12:09:01
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: NT 4 under Boot manager

From: scarebuszug@hotmail.com

Will NT 4 work under Boot Manager?

Thanks 
Gerry

If e-mailing, please remove zug

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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 07-Dec-99 13:03:15
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Abit BE6?

From: nospam@nospam.com (Bruce LaZerte)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 23:03:14, Mirage Media <mirage@iae.nl> wrote:
> Anyone have any experience (good or bad) installing Os/2 Warp 4 on this
> board?
> 

I've been told that the ABIT BE6-II works fine except that it does not 
recognize memory greater than 64 mb in OS2. 

Perhaps that has been fixed now with a later bios. If not, there is a patch
from Dani (don't know the file name) for the OS/2 loader that also fixes 
the problem.
 
----------------------
Bruce LaZerte 	
Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
freshwat at muskoka dot com	

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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au                               07-Dec-99 13:01:17
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:18
Subj: Re: Athlon & OS/2

From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 02:24:27, The AntiGates 
<zeppelin@gte.net> wrote:

> Thanks Richard, 
> Sounds as though you and I will be taking similar paths.
> 
> Does the Crystal sound chip come with any decent sound tools/toys such
> as arudementary synth keyboard (127 voices etc)?
> 
> Does the Asus board use an Award or an AMI bios?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Richard A Crane wrote:
> > I just finished my research on these issues and ordered
> > Athlon + ASUSTek K7-M Main Board with Matrox Millenium G400
> > 32 MB SGRAM and Aopen AW230 PCI Sound (plus a few other
> > bits)
> > Richard A Crane
> > Barrister & Solicitor
> > slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> > octa4.net.au
> > OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
My "system" was delivered today - the 9GB IBM SCSI drive is 
now in this machine.
NB the IBM drive is made in Thailand I don't know if its 
common but all the stickers IDing the jumpers were on back 
to front - I had downloaded the IBM DNES Ultrastar info - 
got confused because of the contradictions - ended up just 
putting it in to see what the controller card said it was 
etc. That let me work out that the on disc sticker was 
backwards! Also it arrived without one of the jumpers it was
supposed to have- 60+ minutes looking for the right size one
that I knew I had somewhere

The Soundcard has nothing for OS/2 with it - I had a quick 
look at the CD that came with it Dos/Win95/98/ 2000(for beta
3 build something or other) and WinNT stuff but no OS/2 
stuff. 

The mainboard handbook shows pics of the Bios screen which 
show AMI as the Bios. But I haven't put it together yet so I
cannot confirm that.

I'll post a follow up when I get it going.

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
PS any disk whiz want to tell me what sort of risk I've put 
my disc and data to by formatting and running it without the
"SCSI terminator power suppy" jumper on ? Should I reformat 
now I've put one on? And (pushing his luck) what is "Force 
SE mode" and what does it mean to say "the drive is forced 
to work as Single-End mode drive"?

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From: rlackl1@attglobal.net                             07-Dec-99 04:36:21
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:18
Subj: Re: DOIP

From: rlackl1@attglobal.net

In <mfDT4kDg6xAQ090yn@ibm.net>, on 12/06/99 
   at 05:25 PM, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) said:

>In article <384ac007$2$eynpxy1$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>rlackl1@attglobal.net wrote:
>>I know there was some discussion of this here a couple of months ago but
>>unfortunately I didn't save it.
>>
>>I can get the alternate SLIP dialer to dial, connect and log in, but I
>>can't get it to work with Netscape (2.02) or MR/2 ICE.  It just sits
>>there.

>Sounds like your connection is not finding a DNS server (to resolve the
>Domain Name). Check your C:\MPTN\ETC directory for a file named "resolv"
>(no quotes) and see if it has the information for your ISP and DNS
>server. Mine looks like this:

>domain iquest.net
>nameserver 206.246.140.95

Thanks for the assist.  I suppose it's progress, but now (using LINKUP) I
get a connect and logon, and it starts MR2 just fine.  But after a few
minutes the dialer displays the message "SYS1806 The system cannot start
the program in the foreground" - even though MR2 is running just fine
(although it's just sitting "checking for new mail", it's obviously not
getting through).

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           07-Dec-99 15:26:19
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:18
Subj: Re: NT 4 under Boot manager

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:09:02, scarebuszug@hotmail.com wrote:

> Will NT 4 work under Boot Manager?
> 

Yes (short answer).

Yes (long answer)
Use OS/2 FDISK to partition the drive

1) install boot manager at start of drive

2) allocate a partition for Windows NT (primary)

3) remove boot manager leaving free space

4) install WinNT to partition allocated

5) Use OS/2 FDISK to install boot manager again
and add the WinNT partition to the boot manager
menu.

6) Now install the real operating systems that
you will use, OS/2, Linux etc.  

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu                          07-Dec-99 15:19:16
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: NT 4 under Boot manager

From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen)

Yes.

Remember, that NT4's bootloader *must* have access to the 
bootsector of the c:\partition. Therefore, whatever exended 
partition you put NT on, there must still be a c: partition in 
a file system that NT understands (FAT or NTFS) that will 
contain the files c:\ntloader.com and boot.ini

So that wherever you end up installing the bulk of NT's files, 
the partition that OS/2's bootmanager will boot when you 
choose NT will be c: For the purpose of these two files, "c:" 
could in fact be quite small --even on the order of 2 Megs. 

When you install NT, it will temporarily disable OS/2's 
boot manager by deselecting the Bootmanager partition 
from "active". When the NT install is complete, you use 
NT's disk administrator to set the Boot Manager partition 
as "active" once again. Add c:\ to Bootmanager's menu, 
in the usual fashion from OS/2's fdisk, and off you go.

--Kevin 


On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 12:09:02 +0000, scarebuszug@hotmail.com 
<scarebuszug@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Will NT 4 work under Boot Manager?
>
>Thanks 
>Gerry
>
>If e-mailing, please remove zug

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From: ek332@columbia.edu                                07-Dec-99 11:30:17
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: HPFS and NTFS drivers?

From: Eyal Kattan <ek332@columbia.edu>

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> On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:09:47, osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) wrote:
>
> > >How about the other way around?  Is there perhaps a
> > >driver to get OS/2 to read and write NTFS partitions?
> >
> > Files found in hobbes-os2 archive as of Dec 12,1997:
> >
> > ntfs_003.zip
> >      NTFS IFS (file system driver) for OS/2
>
> This is NOT an IFS! This archive includes some tools to access NTFS
> partitions in read only mode (list directories, copy files etc).
>

Is there an IFS driver for OS/2 to read or read/write from/to NTFS ? where
can it be found ?

Eyal,




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From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net                           07-Dec-99 17:15:20
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: Athlon & OS/2

From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net

In <HN2tEbdbtdhk-pn2-41nfogONdK15@localhost>, rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A
Crane) writes:
>On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 02:24:27, The AntiGates 
><zeppelin@gte.net> wrote:
>
..[snip]...

>PS any disk whiz want to tell me what sort of risk I've put 
>my disc and data to by formatting and running it without the
>"SCSI terminator power suppy" jumper on ? Should I reformat 
>now I've put one on? And (pushing his luck) what is "Force 
>SE mode" and what does it mean to say "the drive is forced 
>to work as Single-End mode drive"?

        SE = Single ended. It is a cabling method. SE was the standard
mode for cabling up SCSI devices until cable length stated to become
a problem At that point another cabling standard was added to the spec.,
differential. It uses +ve and -ve signal levels on two cables to reduce
the effects od line noise. It also allows for long cable runs which
became a problem with the advent of Ultra SCSI.

        You will have no problem with the drive running in SE mode.

        As for teminator power, you should only have one source for
terminator power. Either device that is the pysically last device on the
SCSI bus or the SCSI adapter itself. Check your docs and jumpers to see
which device(s) are supplying terminator power and ensure that you only
have one when you are finished.

        If you SCSI adapter was supplying the terminator power when you
did your initial format I wouldn't reformat. 

        Jim


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From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu                     07-Dec-99 19:01:08
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: CDROM autostart?

From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu

In article
<jORXtcYCR8l4-pn2-VbvCQzhmCMlr@SPHERICALBURN.TAMPABAY.RR.COM>,
  donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:

> There's nothing about WIN9x that causes me more anger than this
> bonehead "feature". (Except the hangs and crashes, of course.)

<rant>
This is what I don't get... If you put in a CD and hold down <shift>
untill the disc is done seeking, it won't auto-play. *BUT* if you go
into the control panel and turn off "Auto-Insert Notification", then you
*have* to reboot the damn system?! WHY?! Obviously the system can decide
weather or not to auto-play discs at anytime by user input, so why the
hell can't it do this w/o a reboot?!

And another thing! There are people I know that don't know how to run
applications without putting th CD in the drive. If the disk is already
in the drive, they *eject* it, and reinsert it to make the auto-play
stuff run!! ARRRGGGHHH!!
</rant>

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |But on the other hand...|
hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |There's 5 more fingers. |


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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     08-Dec-99 01:04:18
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: Install IDE support how?

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 20:43:27 +0000, Charles Christacopoulos wrote:

->Can anyone suggest to me which are the files in config.sys which are
->used to enable IDE support.

basedev=ibm1s506.add
basedev=ibmidecd.flt
device=x:\os2\boot\os2cdrom.dmd /q
device=x:\os2\mdos\vcdrom.sys
ifs=x:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /q


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: bobmcl@ibm.net                                    08-Dec-99 14:53:12
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: FDISK and primary partitions

From: bob <bobmcl@ibm.net>

I have an 8.4GB IDE disk and 4.2GB SCSI. I have the DD fixpack
installed, so all new drivers.
The disk layouts are
IDE
Boot Manager
C:  1.5GB Primary
      1.5GB Primary (an alternative windows/linux C partition)
D:  5.0 GB Extended
E:  7MB Extended, just for holding the the drive letter
F:  7 MB same

SCSI All extended, HPFS for systems, programs and data
G:, H:, I: etc

When I run FDISK from an OS/2 FP12 partition, it sees everything OK.
When I build a maintenance partition with SEMAINT, I get a mini OS/2
command line system, similar to that on the boot diskettes. If I run
FDISK from this it sees the spare 1.5GB primary partition as D: and
shuffles all the rest of the letters up one position. Same if I use FP12
FDISK. Everything else sees the partitions correctly.
Any ideas.

--------------------------------------------------------
Bob McLellan
The Little Blue Kiwi
OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland


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From: alberth@ibm.net                                   07-Dec-99 21:53:02
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover

From: "Albert O. Howard" <alberth@ibm.net>


> On Sat, 04 Dec 1999 16:33:24 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:
>
> ->    I used the /v switches with ibmidecd.flt.  The report was:
> ->IBM ATAPI (IDE) CDROM   filter for OS/2 2.x & 3.x (960405)
> ->Controller: 0     Base Port: 170     IRQ:   F; Status = OK
>
> Looks like a bug in that it appears to be enumerating the controllers
> depending on whether it has found a CD on them or not rather than in
> strict numerical order (as it should). It looks like a cosmetic bug though
> and shouldn't affect anything. I've never used /V on IBMIDECD.FLT so don't
> known if it should list the CDs it finds.
>

Hi All!
    I should have included that I cannot get OS2CDROM.DMD to load.   I have
verified location of file, path et al in config.sys.
    It has been suggested I might try setting cdrom to Cable Select setting
(CS) of the three available -- MS, SL, CS.  I have been using SL, of course.
    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
    Thanks, Al Howard


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From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com                                 08-Dec-99 03:20:10
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com (David LaRue)

  Tony, et al,

  The machines available from resellers rarely met the needs of OS/2 users. 
OS/2
usually used more of the machine and the users tried to run much more than
their Windows counterparts.  Anyway, the Unix and OS/2 crowd seemed to be
more aware of things like L2 cache, RAM, and well balanced system
requirements.
Windows people did seem to put more into graphics and game requirements
though.

  My 286 started at 8MB and then I gave it 16MB (always had a 1MB L2 even
in those days).  It was expensive but swapping on drives wasn't as good as now
with better drives.  I've always run SCSI and love OS/2s management skills.
It was a good system.  

  VAC++ v3 required a move to the 486 starting at 16MB.  Later I upped it to
a full 256MB just so that VAC++ v3 could start in under 4 hours.  That was a
hog in a constrained system.  Apps matter far more than just booting a
machine,
in terms of RAM requirements.  If the system keeps slowing down that kind of
defeats the purpose.

  Today the P-III and 384MB are my norm.  Okay, this is overkill.  Graphics,
DSL,
TCP, digital photo software, VAC++ v4, and a few games can't budge the
sawpper file (stuck at 2MB).  All apps run as though nothing else is on the
system.  [Not like another popular system that slows down when you add
a TCP stack and a WinModem.]

  Generally I've found 16MB for 2.11 to be enough for most LAN intensive apps.
16-32MB for v3 and most apps.  v3 was better at memory management.  v4 may
be an improvement.  Its hard to tell since so much of the system changed.
v4 runs well in 32MB but appreciates a little more.  128MB is probably
comfortable
for most people.

  After CPU, L2, and RAM, the hard drive becomes an important factor.  A fast
boot and swapper drive are fairly important.  SCSI can help keep system pauses
to a minimum.  Multiple physical drives can help separate program loading too.

  Take care all,

  David

In <384c888c_3@news1.prserv.net>, "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>
writes:
>*UNCONSTRAINED*
>
>When Warp was released, few if any machines had enough memory to run
>unconstrained save for a few high end servers and such.  32M of memory was
>virtually unheard of at the time.
>
> Tony
>
>John Poltorak <jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:384c6b22.0@katana.legend.co.uk...
>> In <384c52bd_1@news1.prserv.net>, "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>
>writes:
>> >Warp 3 had a major page tuning effort done to it.  All aspects of the
>system
>> >were reworked with respect to locked memory usage and working set.
>> >
>> >However, IMO 2.11 is somewhat faster in unconstrained environments.
>>
>> That was not my experience at all. OS/2 v3 was so much faster than v2+.
>> The kernel itself was greatly reduced so didn't take up so much memory.
>>
>> > Tony
>> >
>> --
>> John
>
>

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From: reply_to_the_newsgroup@please.com                 08-Dec-99 11:22:11
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 10:20:01
Subj: Re: Cyrix GX based machine; TRAP 000e

From: Wim Wauters <reply_to_the_newsgroup@please.com>


Matt Bear wrote:
> 
> Just a quick thank you to everyone who tried to help me with this.  The
> darn thing just would not work with warp.  Of course, it wouldn't work
> with NT or Linux either, so apparently I'll be suffering..err using 98
> on it after all.
> 

> > I have a Cyrix based machine here that I want to use as a webserver on
> > my home LAN.  Each time I try to get Warp 4 installed on it, I get a
> > TRAP 000E at a different point in the install process.  Originally I
> > couldn't get past disk 2, then disk 3, now I can't get it to go at all.
> >
> > The machine has a Cyrix GX 166, revision 3.2, 16MB of RAM, and a 4.3GB
> > Seagate IDE drive.  

Ah ! It's an old one. Had a 486 with 2*16MB of RAM in it. I
could choose from three different modules (all different
brands)[might have been three sets of 2*8MB).
Any combination worked fine for M$ DOS 6.20 Dutch BUT OS/2
simply crashed on one particular combination with a trapE.
Note that when I used one brand only (i.e. 16BM only)
everything was fine.

So I'm pretty certain your RAM memory or interface is shaky.
Win98 will run, but will crash more often as a consequence
(yes, even more often than usual).
OS-es that are demanding (like OS/2, NT and Linux) require
'good' RAM (does not mean top-notch or very expensive, but
you have to be lucky with no-name modules).

Donate your machine to a Win98 user (they're used to
rebooting) and get yourself a 'proper' one.

OS/2 forever !

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From: reply_to_the_newsgroup@please.com                 08-Dec-99 11:46:26
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 10:20:01
Subj: Re: Pentium -> K6-2

From: Wim Wauters <reply_to_the_newsgroup@please.com>


Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
> > I'm planning on upgrading my P133 to a K6-2 400.  Is a reinstall
> > necessary?  IOW does OS/2 install any Pentium specific files that the
> > K6-2 doesn't like?
> >
> 
> It's supposed to work.
> 
> I've moved boot disks from P100 to P II to AMD
> based motherboads without any problems

Yeah, only OS/2 can do this (dunno about BeOS) !

I moved a boot disk from an Intel MoBo+P100 to an
FIC503+Cyrix200MMX.
The machine has a different network card and video card
(unfortunately Scitech's Display Doctor Beta9 is
incompatible with one of them, so needed to go VGA for a
bit).
The FIC went belly up after 4weeks, so I had to put the boot
disk back in the P100.
Will receive the replacement next week, so that's another
swap.

Also changed a mobo at home from PcChips TX-Pro-III to
Tx-Pro-II to Gigabyte GA-5AA (all super7): no problems,
nothing to reinstall !

I like them generic IDE and ISA drivers we have in OS/2.

** warning windos bashing **
Imagine: in windos you would have to reinstall from scratch
(although I would've thought changing the AGP driver and IDE
driver and ISAPnP driver would do it ;-)
Of course, windos or NT are such a mess that reinstalling
the lot from scratch seems to be necessary every half a
year. (although some hard-handed management of the
shortcuts, file extension associations and the registry
should achieve the same. Not forgetting the manual deletion
of all those files in your temp directories,because windos
doesn't clean up after itself and has multiple temporary
directories which are hardcoded in certain applications:
/windos/temp, /temp, /windos/~*.*, /temp/~*/*.*, etc...). I
better stop, because the more I think about it, the more
mess turns up.

So instead of installing OS/2 on two hard disks with manual
config change to accommodate network card/video card(2
reboots),I would've had to install windos 5 times, plus each
time installing the IDE driver, ISAPnP and AGP drivers...(2
reboots, if lucky)
** and of bashing **

OS/2 forever !

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From: sfactual@erols.com                                08-Dec-99 09:28:04
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: Install IDE support how?

From: Jon Schuck <sfactual@erols.com>

Trevor Hemsley's reply is correct, but don't forget the ORDER the drivers
are loaded.  IDE can REALLY dick up a scsi boot system.  make sure the scsi
calls come first in config.sys.

Charles Christacopoulos wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am running WSeB with just SCSI.  I had to install an IDE CD-Rom which
> I cannot get to show up.  At first I thought the problem was with LVM,
> however I now notice the machine does not enable the IDE drivers (ide is
> enabled in the bios).
>
> I have  a nearly identical machine running warp 4 (only IDE device is an
> identical CDRom).  Tried comparing the two config.sys but I am none the
> wiser.  I have tried installing the cd-rom using a number of the
> available cd-rom types with no success.
>
> Can anyone suggest to me which are the files in config.sys which are
> used to enable IDE support.
>
> Many thanks
> Charles

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From: paulwa@kki.net.pl                                 08-Dec-99 15:09:15
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Problems with InJoy and DNS

From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3?= Walkowski /Hal52/ <paulwa@kki.net.pl>

I want to connect to my provider through PPP.
I have the following problem with InJoy: everything seems to be
configured properly (TCP/IP also) but after connection the system does
not see my default DNS's, which InJoy puts to \mptn\etc\resolv2 file.
Dialing with DOIP doesn't make any problems. Help!

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Dec-99 15:27:10
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: Problems with InJoy and DNS

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:09:30, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3?= Walkowski 
/Hal52/ <paulwa@kki.net.pl> wrote:

> 
> I want to connect to my provider through PPP.
> I have the following problem with InJoy: everything seems to be
> configured properly (TCP/IP also) but after connection the system does
> not see my default DNS's, which InJoy puts to \mptn\etc\resolv2 file.
> Dialing with DOIP doesn't make any problems. Help!
> 

Can you PING the DNS addresses sucessfully?

If so, is the SET ETC line in your config.sys correct?
If this is not SET ETC=X:\mptn\etc the name resolution
will not work.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        08-Dec-99 15:51:04
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dkHhf1oNCBd0@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:55:31, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
>Poltorak) wrote:
>
>> I am getting errors with access violations (SYS3175) in PMMERGE.DLL when
>> running certain programs.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what is likely to cause this? Maybe video drivers?...
>> 
>
>Depends on what the error is. Video drivers seem to cause
>their fair share, but it could also be the application program
>or a bug in the PMMERGE routine called, or a bug in the
>application program.
>
>The popuplog.os2 file in the root directory of your boot
>drive has a record of the register dump. Let us see what 
>that is and maybe we'll have a better idea.

I wish I knew how to make any sense of this stuff myself...
Netscape has just been installed and is also displaying the
same symptoms :-(... 

I can't help thinking this is something to do with the video drivers. The
machine
has an S3 Vision 864 chip although I'm using GRADD drivers. Maybe I'll try
some
specific S3 drivers. The latest SciTech drivers produce a Trap D.

Here's part of a popuplog.os2 :-



12-06-1999  12:55:22  SYS3175  PID 002f  TID 0001  Slot 004c
C:\LOTUSW4\123\123W.EXE
c0000005
1e93c240
P1=00000001  P2=0000001c  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000014  EBX=1af81f94  ECX=00000008  EDX=0012f290
ESI=0000001c  EDI=0012f290  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=3fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=3fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e93c240  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=3fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0012f254  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=3fffffff
EBP=0012f39c  FLG=00012206

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0010c240

------------------------------------------------------------


12-06-1999  12:56:33  SYS3175  PID 0032  TID 0002  Slot 0064
C:\LOTUSW4\FLG\FLG.EXE
c0000005
1e93c240
P1=00000001  P2=0000001c  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000014  EBX=1b05e254  ECX=00000008  EDX=00bf7144
ESI=0000001c  EDI=00bf7144  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=3fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=3fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e93c240  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=3fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00bf7108  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=3fffffff
EBP=00bf7250  FLG=00012206

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0010c240

------------------------------------------------------------


12-06-1999  13:15:53  SYS3175  PID 0037  TID 0001  Slot 0063
C:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1e93c240
P1=00000001  P2=0000001c  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000014  EBX=1adfddfc  ECX=00000008  EDX=00686600
ESI=0000001c  EDI=00686600  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=3fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=3fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e93c240  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=3fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:006865c4  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=3fffffff
EBP=0068670c  FLG=00012202

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0010c240

------------------------------------------------------------

12-06-1999  18:22:42  SYS3175  PID 004f  TID 0001  Slot 006b
C:\MMOS2\MINSTALL.EXE
c0000005
1e92d62d
P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=1c9e86d0  EBX=1c9e86d0  ECX=80080008  EDX=13e8b374
ESI=00064330  EDI=800000ec  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=3fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=3fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e92d62d  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=3fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00063eb4  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=3fffffff
EBP=00063ff4  FLG=00012202

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:000fd62d

------------------------------------------------------------

12-06-1999  22:25:23  SYS3175  PID 002f  TID 0001  Slot 003b
C:\LOTUSW4\APPROACH\APPROACH.EXE
c0000005
1e93c240
P1=00000001  P2=0000001c  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000014  EBX=1aed7f68  ECX=00000008  EDX=0049cdd4
ESI=0000001c  EDI=0049cdd4  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=3fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=3fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e93c240  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=3fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0049cd98  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=3fffffff
EBP=0049cee0  FLG=00012202

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0010c240




>--
>
>Lorne Sunley
>
--
John

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From: paulwa@kki.net.pl                                 08-Dec-99 16:54:20
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: Problems with InJoy and DNS

From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3?= Walkowski /Hal52/ <paulwa@kki.net.pl>

>
> Can you PING the DNS addresses sucessfully?
>
> If so, is the SET ETC line in your config.sys correct?
> If this is not SET ETC=X:\mptn\etc the name resolution
> will not work.
>
> --
>
> Lorne Sunley

I can PING the adresses and the ETC is set properly. NSLOOKUP says that
default DNS adresses are not available. I hava no idea what this is and some
people reported the same problem.

PW

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Dec-99 19:04:21
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 16:40:14
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:51:09, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
Poltorak) wrote:

> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dkHhf1oNCBd0@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne 
Sunley) writes:
> >On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:55:31, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
> >Poltorak) wrote:
> >
> >> I am getting errors with access violations (SYS3175) in PMMERGE.DLL when
> >> running certain programs.
> >> 
> >> Does anyone know what is likely to cause this? Maybe video drivers?...
> >> 
> >
> >Depends on what the error is. Video drivers seem to cause
> >their fair share, but it could also be the application program
> >or a bug in the PMMERGE routine called, or a bug in the
> >application program.
> >
> >The popuplog.os2 file in the root directory of your boot
> >drive has a record of the register dump. Let us see what 
> >that is and maybe we'll have a better idea.
> 
> I wish I knew how to make any sense of this stuff myself...
> Netscape has just been installed and is also displaying the
> same symptoms :-(... 
> 
> I can't help thinking this is something to do with the video drivers. The
machine
> has an S3 Vision 864 chip although I'm using GRADD drivers. Maybe I'll try
some
> specific S3 drivers. The latest SciTech drivers produce a Trap D.
> 
> Here's part of a popuplog.os2 :-
> 

<snip popuplog.os2 to reduce size>

All the traps except the MINSTALL one are happening in
the same routine in PMMERGE it's either a bug
in the PMMERGE code or it's the video driver.

Try S3 specific drivers and see if that makes
a difference. Are you using the GRADD 80
drivers or the earlier GRADD 77?


--

Lorne Sunley

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Dec-99 19:07:07
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Problems with InJoy and DNS

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:54:41, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3?= Walkowski 
/Hal52/ <paulwa@kki.net.pl> wrote:

> >
> > Can you PING the DNS addresses sucessfully?
> >
> > If so, is the SET ETC line in your config.sys correct?
> > If this is not SET ETC=X:\mptn\etc the name resolution
> > will not work.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Lorne Sunley
> 
> I can PING the adresses and the ETC is set properly. NSLOOKUP says that
> default DNS adresses are not available. I hava no idea what this is and some
> people reported the same problem.
> 

When you use DOIP does the RESOLV2 file in
\MPTN\ETC look exactly the same as the RESOLV2
file that Injoy sets up? Both of them write out the file
based on the setup in the dialer I believe.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     08-Dec-99 20:23:24
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:51:09, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
Poltorak) wrote:

> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dkHhf1oNCBd0@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne 
Sunley) writes:
> >On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:55:31, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
> >Poltorak) wrote:
> >
> >> I am getting errors with access violations (SYS3175) in PMMERGE.DLL when
> >> running certain programs.
> >> 
> >> Does anyone know what is likely to cause this? Maybe video drivers?...
> >> 
> >
> >Depends on what the error is. Video drivers seem to cause
> >their fair share, but it could also be the application program
> >or a bug in the PMMERGE routine called, or a bug in the
> >application program.
> >
> >The popuplog.os2 file in the root directory of your boot
> >drive has a record of the register dump. Let us see what 
> >that is and maybe we'll have a better idea.
> 
> I wish I knew how to make any sense of this stuff myself...
> Netscape has just been installed and is also displaying the
> same symptoms :-(... 
> 
> I can't help thinking this is something to do with the video drivers. The
machine
> has an S3 Vision 864 chip although I'm using GRADD drivers. Maybe I'll try
some
> specific S3 drivers. The latest SciTech drivers produce a Trap D.
> 
> Here's part of a popuplog.os2 :-
> 
..snip the logs...
> 
> 
> >--
> >
> >Lorne Sunley
> >
> --
> John

You don't say what version, and fix pack, of OS/2. If it is warp2 
FP12, there seems to be a problem with PMMERGE.DLL. There is a newer 
(very unofficial) version available, which seems to fix, at least some
of, the problems. I seem to have misplaced the file name, sorry... 
Perhaps, it is still in the incoming list at the OS/2 supersite ( 
http://www.os2ss.com/ ). Something like PMR00052.ZIP.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     08-Dec-99 20:17:26
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: cdrom changeover

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 21:53:04 -0500, Albert O. Howard wrote:

->    I should have included that I cannot get OS2CDROM.DMD to load.   I have
->verified location of file, path et al in config.sys.

OS2CDROM.DMD won't load unless there's a CD supported by a driver in your
system. Does IBMIDECD.FLT list a CD?


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        08-Dec-99 20:46:05
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:21
Subj: UPM installed without File and Print Client?

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

I've run up against something interesting with two of the OS/2 machines I
maintain here at work.  These machines were put in place before I started
here, and are in a very closed production environment, so I don't get to
poke around them all that much.

Basically, User Profile Management services seems to be installed on them,
but the File and Print Client is not.  I didn't think this was possible.

I was trying to install UPM service pack IP08406 on them (as Y2K is coming
up and this contains a few fixes for UPM, Peer, etc.).  However, the CSF
claimed it could find no products available to service.  That's funny, I
thought to myself, and checked SYSLEVEL.  UPM is listed as installed,
level WR08000.

I tried several tricks for installing, but the CSF refused.  I then
noticed that the IBMLAN directory does not exist.  Curious, I loaded up
Selective Install for Networking, and, sure enough, beside "File and Print
Client" it says "not installed".

My question is: under what circumstances can UPM get installed without the
File and Print Client?  And do I need to install FP&C in order to apply
service to UPM?

This machine runs DB/2, Personal Communications, and a few other things.
DB/2 and the 'other things' require UPM and the user accounts database to
function, but the LAN client and peer services are not needed.  I am
anxious to get UPM Y2K compliant, however, so I need to install IP08406.

Any suggestions?

Thanks...
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Dec-99 21:41:18
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:21
Subj: Re: UPM installed without File and Print Client?

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:46:11, alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) 
wrote:

> 
> My question is: under what circumstances can UPM get installed without the
> File and Print Client?  And do I need to install FP&C in order to apply
> service to UPM?
> 
> This machine runs DB/2, Personal Communications, and a few other things.
> DB/2 and the 'other things' require UPM and the user accounts database to
> function, but the LAN client and peer services are not needed.  I am
> anxious to get UPM Y2K compliant, however, so I need to install IP08406.
> 

DB2 installs UPM so that it can have a place to keep
the logon ID's and passwords for the DB2 users.

I have no idea if this is updated by the DB2 fixpacks or not.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   08-Dec-99 18:29:07
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: scsi chain setup test; was Re: Athlon & OS/2

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

So is there any software to test a scsi chain & verify that it is set up 
"properly"?

Seems to work even when it isn't ... i.e., what is going on when it's not set 
up right?  slower?  glitches? 

On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 17:15:41 GMT, james.arnold@!!!usa.net wrote:

:>  In <HN2tEbdbtdhk-pn2-41nfogONdK15@localhost>, rcrane@octa4.net.au 
(Richard A Crane) writes:
:>  >On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 02:24:27, The AntiGates 
:>  ><zeppelin@gte.net> wrote:
:>  >
:>  ...[snip]...
:>  
:>  >PS any disk whiz want to tell me what sort of risk I've put 
:>  >my disc and data to by formatting and running it without the
:>  >"SCSI terminator power suppy" jumper on ? Should I reformat 
:>  >now I've put one on? And (pushing his luck) what is "Force 
:>  >SE mode" and what does it mean to say "the drive is forced 
:>  >to work as Single-End mode drive"?
:>  
:>          SE = Single ended. It is a cabling method. SE was the standard
:>  mode for cabling up SCSI devices until cable length stated to become
:>  a problem At that point another cabling standard was added to the spec.,
:>  differential. It uses +ve and -ve signal levels on two cables to reduce
:>  the effects od line noise. It also allows for long cable runs which
:>  became a problem with the advent of Ultra SCSI.
:>  
:>          You will have no problem with the drive running in SE mode.
:>  
:>          As for teminator power, you should only have one source for
:>  terminator power. Either device that is the pysically last device on the
:>  SCSI bus or the SCSI adapter itself. Check your docs and jumpers to see
:>  which device(s) are supplying terminator power and ensure that you only
:>  have one when you are finished.
:>  
:>          If you SCSI adapter was supplying the terminator power when you
:>  did your initial format I wouldn't reformat. 
:>  
:>          Jim
:>  
:>  
:>  
===========================================================================
:>  remove !!! for e-mail
:>  James Arnold                                email:    
james.arnold@usa.net
:>                                                ICQ:    9719182
:>  
:>          Member Toronto OS/2 User Group
:>  
:>  Brought to you by the letters O S the number 2 and NR/2
:>  
===========================================================================
:>  


Peter

*/------------------------------------------------------
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Wadsack Management; Madison WI USA
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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   08-Dec-99 18:48:02
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: voicetype stopped working

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

at the worst possible time, of course.

Finally, I selectively uninstalled, then reinstalled it.  This put it out of 
sync, missing fixpak corrections.

So I discovered that <Service.exe> won't find VoiceType [installed on a 
different drive than OS/2] to service.  Long story, but I did it manually.
Except now I get:

------------------------------------------------------------

12-07-1999  11:25:00  SYS3175  PID 0047  TID 0001  Slot 0072
M:\VT\SPCH_BIN\ENROLL.EXE
c0000005
1f3223f8
P1=00000001  P2=00000001  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000001  EBX=00000001  ECX=000438fc  EDX=00043868
ESI=00000003  EDI=ffffffff  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1f3223f8  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:000437e4  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00043850  FLG=00012296

OS2OM30.DLL 0001:000023f8

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So, what is <OS2OM30.DLL> anyway?  What to do?

 

Peter

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Wadsack Management; Madison WI USA
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From: DAMNSPAMMERSks@karicobs.com                       09-Dec-99 01:31:02
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Help with Warp 3 install having win95/98 in 1st partition.

From: DAMNSPAMMERSks@karicobs.com (ks@karicobs.com)

Thursday December 09 1999 01:15, bingw@okanagan.net wrote to All:

 b> I do, I get to a window that says I don't have any partitions as 
 b> large
 b> as 35 megs and thus

Format the partition! :)

 KS


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From: bingw@okanagan.net                                09-Dec-99 01:15:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Help with Warp 3 install having win95/98 in 1st partition.

From: bingw@okanagan.net


Hi there; I am having a bunch of trouble trying to install Warp3 on my hard
drive. I have 600 megs in the first partition of my hard drive and I am
trying to install Warp 3 into the next partition. Every time I do, I get to
a window that says I don't have any partitions as large as 35 megs and thus
I have to go into OS2 fdisk and edit my partition table. I have no
partitions smaller than 350 megs so the message is wrong. I can't even edit
the partition table to satisfy the install so I am at a loss at what to do.
I have installed Warp 3 many times and never had this problem but then I
never had win 95/98 installed on the hard drive either.
     If you have any idea what to try, I will be very appreciative.

Leo (Bing) Whiteway in Kelowna, BC, Canada
http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw

A computer without Micro Soft is like a chocolate cake without mustard

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From: jdparker@erols.com                                08-Dec-99 22:54:19
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Help with Warp 3 install having win95/98 in 1st partition.

From: "James D Parker Jr." <jdparker@erols.com>

bingw@okanagan.net wrote:

> Hi there; I am having a bunch of trouble trying to install Warp3 on my hard
> drive. I have 600 megs in the first partition of my hard drive and I am
> trying to install Warp 3 into the next partition. Every time I do, I get to
> a window that says I don't have any partitions as large as 35 megs and thus
> I have to go into OS2 fdisk and edit my partition table. I have no
> partitions smaller than 350 megs so the message is wrong. I can't even edit
> the partition table to satisfy the install so I am at a loss at what to do.
> I have installed Warp 3 many times and never had this problem but then I
> never had win 95/98 installed on the hard drive either.
>      If you have any idea what to try, I will be very appreciative.
>
> Leo (Bing) Whiteway in Kelowna, BC, Canada
> http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw
>
> A computer without Micro Soft is like a chocolate cake without mustard

You don't say how large your hard drive is or how large the partition you are
trying to install into is or whether you have the latest hard drive drivers
installed on your installation disks or what you used to partition your hard
drive or what your partition set up is. Any of these tid bits of information
could affect the resolution to your problem.

Jim


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From: paulwa@kki.net.pl                                 09-Dec-99 08:46:26
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 05:20:03
Subj: Re: Problems with InJoy and DNS

From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3?= Walkowski /Hal52/ <paulwa@kki.net.pl>


Lorne Sunley napisa(a):

>
> When you use DOIP does the RESOLV2 file in
> \MPTN\ETC look exactly the same as the RESOLV2
> file that Injoy sets up? Both of them write out the file
> based on the setup in the dialer I believe.
>

That's not the case I think, because the adresses are seen by the system
(nslookup), but it cannot reach th servers.

PW.

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From: bingw@okanagan.net                                09-Dec-99 01:29:18
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 10:23:11
Subj: more info on help needed for warp3 hpfs install with win95

From: "Leo (Bing) Whiteway" <bingw@okanagan.net>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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-- 
My web page:
http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw
Okanagan Buy n Sell:
http://www.voy.com/2156/
Check this out:
http://www.jobswarm.com/60223081-2593
Running OS/2 Warp 3 with Netscape 2.02XR
IBM PC Dos 7.0 with browsers Arachne 1.50B & NetTamer 1.12.2
Caldera Open Linux 2.2 with Browser Netscape 4.61

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I have an AST P75 with IBM 586 running 133 mhz. 4.3 gig hard drive. 32 megs
ram. I installed Caldera Open Linux 2.2 and used the linux fdisk to
partition the hard drive with 600 megs in the first part of the hard drive
for windows 95. I made a 350 meg partition for OS2 Warp 3 and then a 1024
meg partition for linux and a 100 meg swap partition in the extended part.

Before I did all this I was running the same hard drive with OS/2 Warp 3 in
the first part of the hard drive with 400 megs with HPFS and then 250 megs
for IBM PC Dos 7. Then I had Caldera Open linux in 800 megs and the swap
again in the extended partition at 100 megs. Everything ran fine with no
conflicts. I ran Ranish part237.zip to look after the booting.

     Now I have redone the drive using fdisk in linux to make the new
partitions of 600 megs for windows 95, 350 megs for OS/2 Warp 3 HPFS, and
250 megs for IBM PC Dos 7.then the rest as extended partition. In this
extended partition, I have 1024 for linux and 100 megs for linux swap.

Now windows runs ok, PC Dos is good, and linux runs fine. I am unable to
install OS/2 Warp because I get a message saying I don't have a partition of
minimum 35 megs. The Partition I have set aside for OS/2 is 350 megs.
If I was able to install things before I put windoze in, why can't I now?
Is there some way to do it? Any help will be appreciated.

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        09-Dec-99 10:50:21
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dbZgRIKYUxUh@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:51:09, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
>Poltorak) wrote:
>
>> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dkHhf1oNCBd0@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca
(Lorne Sunley) writes:
>> >On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:55:31, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
>> >Poltorak) wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am getting errors with access violations (SYS3175) in PMMERGE.DLL when
>> >> running certain programs.
>> >> 
>> >> Does anyone know what is likely to cause this? Maybe video drivers?...
>> >> 
>> >
>> >Depends on what the error is. Video drivers seem to cause
>> >their fair share, but it could also be the application program
>> >or a bug in the PMMERGE routine called, or a bug in the
>> >application program.
>> >
>> >The popuplog.os2 file in the root directory of your boot
>> >drive has a record of the register dump. Let us see what 
>> >that is and maybe we'll have a better idea.
>> 
>> I wish I knew how to make any sense of this stuff myself...
>> Netscape has just been installed and is also displaying the
>> same symptoms :-(... 
>> 
>> I can't help thinking this is something to do with the video drivers. The
machine
>> has an S3 Vision 864 chip although I'm using GRADD drivers. Maybe I'll try
some
>> specific S3 drivers. The latest SciTech drivers produce a Trap D.
>> 
>> Here's part of a popuplog.os2 :-
>> 
>
><snip popuplog.os2 to reduce size>
>
>All the traps except the MINSTALL one are happening in
>the same routine in PMMERGE it's either a bug
>in the PMMERGE code or it's the video driver.
>
>Try S3 specific drivers and see if that makes
>a difference. 

Installing video drivers is ssooooooo much fun.... not!
IBM have different 'latest' drivers on different sites

One package - S3_864.ZIP dated 97/07/16 is described as:-

S3_864 VIDEO DRIVER BUILD A.052

A different one - S3T30316.EXE dated 98/01/09 is shown as:-

S3, Inc. Vision864/964/868/968/Trio32/64/64V+/64V2 Version 3.03.16 Built 6 Jun 
1997 1:44pm 


>Are you using the GRADD 80
>drivers or the earlier GRADD 77?

Originally I used the video drivers which are included in WSeB. I don't know
if they are the same as GRADD 80, but I have tried GRADD 80 also.

None of these have worked so far. Maybe I'll re-install Warp 4.....

>
>--
>
>Lorne Sunley
--
John

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        09-Dec-99 11:02:00
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-QQN5KnSSYrvI@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net
(Doug Bissett) writes:
>On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:51:09, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
>Poltorak) wrote:
>
>> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dkHhf1oNCBd0@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca
(Lorne Sunley) writes:
>> >On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:55:31, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
>> >Poltorak) wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am getting errors with access violations (SYS3175) in PMMERGE.DLL when
>> >> running certain programs.
>> >> 
>> >> Does anyone know what is likely to cause this? Maybe video drivers?...
>> >> 
>> >
>> >Depends on what the error is. Video drivers seem to cause
>> >their fair share, but it could also be the application program
>> >or a bug in the PMMERGE routine called, or a bug in the
>> >application program.
>> >
>> >The popuplog.os2 file in the root directory of your boot
>> >drive has a record of the register dump. Let us see what 
>> >that is and maybe we'll have a better idea.
>> 
>> I wish I knew how to make any sense of this stuff myself...
>> Netscape has just been installed and is also displaying the
>> same symptoms :-(... 
>> 
>> I can't help thinking this is something to do with the video drivers. The
machine
>> has an S3 Vision 864 chip although I'm using GRADD drivers. Maybe I'll try
some
>> specific S3 drivers. The latest SciTech drivers produce a Trap D.
>> 
>> Here's part of a popuplog.os2 :-
>> 
>...snip the logs...
>> 
>> 
>> >--
>> >
>> >Lorne Sunley
>> >
>> --
>> John
>
>You don't say what version, and fix pack, of OS/2. If it is warp2 
>FP12, there seems to be a problem with PMMERGE.DLL. 

It's PMMERGE.DLL from WSeB.

>There is a newer 
>(very unofficial) version available, which seems to fix, at least some
>of, the problems. I seem to have misplaced the file name, sorry... 
>Perhaps, it is still in the incoming list at the OS/2 supersite ( 
>http://www.os2ss.com/ ). Something like PMR00052.ZIP.

I'm just running:- 

wget -c ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/pmr00052.zip

>Hope this helps...

We'll soon see. Thanks for pointing it out.

>******************************
>From the PC of Doug Bissett
>doug.bissett at attglobal.net
>The " at " must be changed to "@"
>******************************
--
John

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           09-Dec-99 15:05:03
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <384f8c28.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 12/09/99 
   at 11:02 AM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:

>>You don't say what version, and fix pack, of OS/2. If it is warp2 
>>FP12, there seems to be a problem with PMMERGE.DLL. 

>It's PMMERGE.DLL from WSeB.

>>There is a newer 
>>(very unofficial) version available, which seems to fix, at least some
>>of, the problems. I seem to have misplaced the file name, sorry... 
>>Perhaps, it is still in the incoming list at the OS/2 supersite ( 
>>http://www.os2ss.com/ ). Something like PMR00052.ZIP.

>I'm just running:- 

>wget -c ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/pmr00052.zip

Oh no!!! This one is for Warp 4 post-FP12!

Cheers,
Ivan

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        09-Dec-99 19:03:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: UPM installed without File and Print Client?

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 21:41:37 GMT, Lorne Sunley <lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> > My question is: under what circumstances can UPM get installed without the
> > File and Print Client?  And do I need to install FP&C in order to apply
> > service to UPM?
> > 
> > This machine runs DB/2, Personal Communications, and a few other things.
> > DB/2 and the 'other things' require UPM and the user accounts database to
> > function, but the LAN client and peer services are not needed.  I am
> > anxious to get UPM Y2K compliant, however, so I need to install IP08406.
> 
> DB2 installs UPM so that it can have a place to keep
> the logon ID's and passwords for the DB2 users.

I wondered if this was it.  Thanks...

> I have no idea if this is updated by the DB2 fixpacks or not.

Doesn't look like it, skimming through the ARAR lists.  Hmm.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           09-Dec-99 17:34:05
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:50:43, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
Poltorak) wrote:

> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dbZgRIKYUxUh@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne 
Sunley) writes:
> >On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:51:09, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
> >Poltorak) wrote:
> >
> >> In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-dkHhf1oNCBd0@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca
(Lorne Sunley) writes:
> >> >On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:55:31, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
> >> >Poltorak) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I am getting errors with access violations (SYS3175) in PMMERGE.DLL
when
> >> >> running certain programs.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Does anyone know what is likely to cause this? Maybe video drivers?...
> >> >> 
> >> >
> >> >Depends on what the error is. Video drivers seem to cause
> >> >their fair share, but it could also be the application program
> >> >or a bug in the PMMERGE routine called, or a bug in the
> >> >application program.
> >> >
> >> >The popuplog.os2 file in the root directory of your boot
> >> >drive has a record of the register dump. Let us see what 
> >> >that is and maybe we'll have a better idea.
> >> 
> >> I wish I knew how to make any sense of this stuff myself...
> >> Netscape has just been installed and is also displaying the
> >> same symptoms :-(... 
> >> 
> >> I can't help thinking this is something to do with the video drivers. The 
machine
> >> has an S3 Vision 864 chip although I'm using GRADD drivers. Maybe I'll
try some
> >> specific S3 drivers. The latest SciTech drivers produce a Trap D.
> >> 
> >> Here's part of a popuplog.os2 :-
> >> 
> >
> ><snip popuplog.os2 to reduce size>
> >
> >All the traps except the MINSTALL one are happening in
> >the same routine in PMMERGE it's either a bug
> >in the PMMERGE code or it's the video driver.
> >
> >Try S3 specific drivers and see if that makes
> >a difference. 
> 
> Installing video drivers is ssooooooo much fun.... not!
> IBM have different 'latest' drivers on different sites
> 
> One package - S3_864.ZIP dated 97/07/16 is described as:-
> 
> S3_864 VIDEO DRIVER BUILD A.052
> 
> A different one - S3T30316.EXE dated 98/01/09 is shown as:-
> 
> S3, Inc. Vision864/964/868/968/Trio32/64/64V+/64V2 Version 3.03.16 Built 6
Jun 1997 1:44pm 
> 
> 
> >Are you using the GRADD 80
> >drivers or the earlier GRADD 77?
> 
> Originally I used the video drivers which are included in WSeB. I don't know
> if they are the same as GRADD 80, but I have tried GRADD 80 also.
> 
> None of these have worked so far. Maybe I'll re-install Warp 4.....
> 

I didn't realize you are using WSeB.

GRADD 80 is pretty close to the WSeB release
drivers, they would probably be the same or close
to it.

The routine address where the trap is appears to
be called GETDRIVERINFO32, it starts at address
0010631C and there doesn't appear to be anything
else around that location. At least it is in the
WSeB PMMERGE.DLL that I have on my WSeB system.

That's the PMMERGE.DLL 00004:0010c240 trap.

Have you tried using the WSeB GA GENGRADD
driver to see if that one works?

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: sctvguy@yahoo.com                                 09-Dec-99 10:29:04
  To: aljohnson@centuryinter.net                        09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

To: aljohnson@centuryinter.net
From: Bob Grimes <sctvguy@yahoo.com>


aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:
> 
> What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
various
> flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and let me
know.
> Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.
> 
> Allen
I run Warp 3 Red on a PS/2, 386 with 4megs.  On a PS/ValuePoint, I run
OS/2 Blue with 40megs.  On an AMD K6-2/400, I run Warp Connect Blue,
Warp 4 with 96megs.  The sweet spot would probably be 16 or 32 megs.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     09-Dec-99 20:14:20
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:05:07, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
wrote:

> In <384f8c28.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 12/09/99 
>    at 11:02 AM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
> 
> >>You don't say what version, and fix pack, of OS/2. If it is warp2 
> >>FP12, there seems to be a problem with PMMERGE.DLL. 
> 
> >It's PMMERGE.DLL from WSeB.
> 
> >>There is a newer 
> >>(very unofficial) version available, which seems to fix, at least some
> >>of, the problems. I seem to have misplaced the file name, sorry... 
> >>Perhaps, it is still in the incoming list at the OS/2 supersite ( 
> >>http://www.os2ss.com/ ). Something like PMR00052.ZIP.
> 
> >I'm just running:- 
> 
> >wget -c ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/pmr00052.zip
> 
> Oh no!!! This one is for Warp 4 post-FP12!
> 
> Cheers,
> Ivan
> 
> -- 
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> 

That could be a problem, but make sure you have a good set of boot 
diskettes, and a GOOD backup, and try it. I expect that if it will 
boot, it should work (of course, it MIGHT totally destroy your system,
so use a little good judgment here <g>). PMMERGE,DLL may, or may not, 
be the same in WSEB.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 21:59:05
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:14:41, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug 
Bissett) wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:05:07, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
> wrote:
> 
> > In <384f8c28.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 12/09/99 
> >    at 11:02 AM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
> > 
> > >>You don't say what version, and fix pack, of OS/2. If it is warp2 
> > >>FP12, there seems to be a problem with PMMERGE.DLL. 
> > 
> > >It's PMMERGE.DLL from WSeB.
> > 
> > >>There is a newer 
> > >>(very unofficial) version available, which seems to fix, at least some
> > >>of, the problems. I seem to have misplaced the file name, sorry... 
> > >>Perhaps, it is still in the incoming list at the OS/2 supersite ( 
> > >>http://www.os2ss.com/ ). Something like PMR00052.ZIP.
> > 
> > >I'm just running:- 
> > 
> > >wget -c ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/pmr00052.zip
> > 
> > Oh no!!! This one is for Warp 4 post-FP12!
> 
> That could be a problem, but make sure you have a good set of boot 
> diskettes, and a GOOD backup, and try it. I expect that if it will 
> boot, it should work (of course, it MIGHT totally destroy your system,
> so use a little good judgment here <g>). PMMERGE,DLL may, or may not, 
> be the same in WSEB.
> 

I don't mean to be encouraging people to cowboy their systems, but 
swapping in a PMMERGE.DLL from another version merely keeps it from 
booting. Just learn how to reboot, gracefully and without cursing, to 
a command line wherein you'll copy the previous version back in. A 
good notebook is a nice thing to keep, if you're playing with things 
like this, because in other cases (than PMMERGE) you might encounter 
problems days or weeks later that you might trace to that wild seed, 
and the notebook will jigger your memory to restore it before going 
completely insane.

And of course I can be wrong about this particular situation, because 
I haven't tried the swap in question with the file versions in 
question.


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Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: jpedone_nospam@flash.net                          10-Dec-99 00:17:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: voicetype stopped working

From: jpedone_nospam@flash.net

In <jnqfnpxvozarg.fmg4s50.pminews@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, "Peter Wadsack"
<wadsack@ibm.net> writes:
>at the worst possible time, of course.
>
>Finally, I selectively uninstalled, then reinstalled it.  This put it out of 
>sync, missing fixpak corrections.
>
>So I discovered that <Service.exe> won't find VoiceType [installed on a 
>different drive than OS/2] to service.  Long story, but I did it manually.
>Except now I get:
>

This may or may not help but... in the FP read me you'll find:

 6.4 RELOCATED OS/2 FILE SUPPORT

   If you have moved OS/2 files or directories to a drive other than the one
   the SYSLEVEL.OS2 file is on, do the following in order to have them
   serviced:

     Create a file named USERDIRS.OS2 in the \OS2\INSTALL directory of the
      OS\2 Warp 4 partition to be serviced.

      In this file, place the full path to the directories you want to be
      serviced. Assuming your boot drive is C: and you installed Multimedia
      on the D: drive and manually moved WINOS2 support to the E: drive:

       D:\MMOS2
       D:\MMOS2\DLL
       D:\MMOS2\DSP

You might try creating this file and reapplying the FP...

 
J. Pedone
jpedone@flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
 
Windows NT: Vapourware of the desperate and scared.
Beware of Geeks bearing gifs.

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From: andreas.linde@os2.org                             09-Dec-99 14:30:06
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: OS/2 Hardware Reviews

From: Andreas Linde <andreas.linde@os2.org>

hi,

some late response, but I didn't see this thread 
before... so :

>I just went and looked at it.  It's not much of 
a review site.  Doesn't
>discuss the pros and cons of any particular bit 
of hardware.  It
>doesn't explain how the rating was arrived at, 
though there *is* a
>rating.  And there's not much listed there.  
While it's better than
>nothing, I wouldn't call it "very well done". :)

to discuss pros and cons you have to test that 
hardware. take a look into the impressum and 
you'll see that the team is quite small. and how 
could such a small team afford testing brand new 
hardware ?
the concept is much different. anyone can post 
any hardware to us, and review it by himself. 
everyone else in the world can rate this product 
too and even write more comments.

> Hmm..I must admit I didn't know about that 
link.
> Secondly, even pointing to OS2.org, it took me 
a while to figure out it
> was under "Projects".

well, that was a problem right. OS2.org went 
through a slight redesign, with a little 
reorganization, and better and faster design.
but again, I depend on everybodys response and 
input to enhance the page, include more features 
and make it useable for everyone.

> 
> I agree that such a database is a good idea. 
But I was thinking more along
> the lines of....say, www.sharkyextreme.com for 
example. (Except the don't
> do OS/2).
> A real in-depth review and how it performs 
under OS/2. The one under

as mentioned before, that costs money and someone 
who can afford that ! so there is no way for us 
to do that. but as also mentioned, you can do 
that and post your review to us.

> OS2.org might consists of archives of such 
articles...

I try to include anything that is of use for OS/2 
users. give me the idea, I do that.
but only saying that OS2.org doesn't provide that 
and that doesn't help anyone. YOU can change 
that, go fot it.

ciao

  andy

webmaster OS2.org


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From: ispalten@us.ibm.com                               09-Dec-99 08:07:02
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: Help with Warp 3 install having win95/98 in 1st partition.

From: Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com>

Your partition is too large to be handled by the initial IBM1S506.ADD
shipped with the product. On the OS2 DDPAK-OnLine, that file (called
IDEDASD.EXE) has been updated 2 times, once for disks large than 4.3GB,
and the last time for disks greater than 8.4GB. Any partition that is on
a drive larger than 4.3GB will not be installable (as OS/2 sees it as
too small) with the initial install diskettes.

Check out this URL,
http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/fixnews.html#8gbide

Irv Spalten

bingw@okanagan.net wrote:
> 
> Hi there; I am having a bunch of trouble trying to install Warp3 on my hard
> drive. I have 600 megs in the first partition of my hard drive and I am
> trying to install Warp 3 into the next partition. Every time I do, I get to
> a window that says I don't have any partitions as large as 35 megs and thus
> I have to go into OS2 fdisk and edit my partition table. I have no
> partitions smaller than 350 megs so the message is wrong. I can't even edit
> the partition table to satisfy the install so I am at a loss at what to do.
> I have installed Warp 3 many times and never had this problem but then I
> never had win 95/98 installed on the hard drive either.
>      If you have any idea what to try, I will be very appreciative.
> 
> Leo (Bing) Whiteway in Kelowna, BC, Canada
> http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw
> 
> A computer without Micro Soft is like a chocolate cake without mustard

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 17:06:02
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:05:07, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
wrote:

> In <384f8c28.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 12/09/99 
>    at 11:02 AM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
> 
> >>You don't say what version, and fix pack, of OS/2. If it is warp2 
> >>FP12, there seems to be a problem with PMMERGE.DLL. 
> 
> >It's PMMERGE.DLL from WSeB.
> 
> >>There is a newer 
> >>(very unofficial) version available, which seems to fix, at least some
> >>of, the problems. I seem to have misplaced the file name, sorry... 
> >>Perhaps, it is still in the incoming list at the OS/2 supersite ( 
> >>http://www.os2ss.com/ ). Something like PMR00052.ZIP.
> 
> >I'm just running:- 
> 
> >wget -c ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/pmr00052.zip
> 
> Oh no!!! This one is for Warp 4 post-FP12!

Yes. Use BLDLEVEL to check these before swapping them in.

From PMR00052.ZIP, 

------------------
{0}c:\temp>bldlevel pmmerge.dll
Build Level Display Facility Version 5.59.105 Mar 15 1999
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1999
Signature:       @#IBM:9.35#@ OS/2 PM Merged Library
Vendor:          IBM
Revision:        9.35
File Version:    9.35
Description:     OS/2 PM Merged Library 
------------------

And from WSeB, 

-----------------
{0}c:\os2\dll>bldlevel pmmerge.dll
Build Level Display Facility Version 5.59.105 Mar 15 1999
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-1999
Signature:       @#IBM:14.039#@ OS/2 PM Merged Library
Vendor:          IBM
Revision:        14.39
File Version:    14.39
Description:     OS/2 PM Merged Library
-------------------

Anything with a 14.x version number will not work at all (I do 
believe) in Warp 4 or earlier. Some files with 9.x version numbers 
work in WSeB, but not others.



-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: idawson@montupetuk.co.uk                          10-Dec-99 11:29:27
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 10:35:21
Subj: OS2 & Toshiba 300CDT Laptop

From: "ID" <idawson@montupetuk.co.uk>

I've been trying to install OS2 Warp 3 on a Toshiba 300CDT Laptop.  I
fdisk'd the hard disk to fat16. I inserted the Installation Diskette which
brings up an OS2 symbol in the top left cornet of the screen.  After about a
minute the machine reboots and continually performs the same task again,
never getting to disk 1.

The machine has a 2.1Gb HD with 80Mb Ram.


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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    10-Dec-99 06:46:17
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 10:35:22
Subj: Re: Warp 3 on the network ?

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <gYNQOADEmTvVGzsYD8JdWxtefSIh@4ax.com>, jams <jams@rhhs.com> wrote:
>How do I get my base Warp 3 connected to the network ?
>I need to install the NIC, setup TCPIP etc...
>any help is greatly appreciated
>
>James

Base Warp 3 is not "Network Enabled" ... the IAK (Internet Access Kit)
on the Bonus Pack CDROM contains a Dial-up *only* TCP/IP stack that
won't work with a LAN card.

Least expensive (and easiest) way to do it is to go to e-Bay and buy a
copy of Warp Connect (Warp 3 Network enabled) or Warp 4. Either of
these will allow you to do what you want. Other option is to find a
copy of TCP/IP for OS/2. I'm not sure that it's still available, and,
at the time Warp Connect was released, it was more expensive than the
upgrade from Warp 3 to Warp Connect.

Basically, you need MPTS (Multi-Protocol Transport Support) and TCP/IP
to use the system on a LAN.


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From: no.spam@no.spam.org                               10-Dec-99 15:42:20
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: Re: OS2 & Toshiba 300CDT Laptop

From: "Cornelis Bockem?hl" <no.spam@no.spam.org>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:29:54 -0000, ID wrote:

>I've been trying to install OS2 Warp 3 on a Toshiba 300CDT Laptop.  I
>fdisk'd the hard disk to fat16. I inserted the Installation Diskette which
>brings up an OS2 symbol in the top left cornet of the screen.  After about a
>minute the machine reboots and continually performs the same task again,
>never getting to disk 1.
>
>The machine has a 2.1Gb HD with 80Mb Ram.

Sounds rather strange to me: I have a Toshiba 300CDS Laptop with the
same size HD and 48MB RAM, and OS/2 installed there without a flaw!
This of course only means: It _should_ work somehow...

One more difference is that I use HPFS as my file system (which I
would recommend in any case: FAT16 is far less safe and you are
loosing a lot of disk space on HDs of that size, i.e. "huge" in the
old days of DOS and FAT16!

Once you get further with your installation I could give some more
recommendations, but also have a look at the "Notebook/2" site at

http://www.os2ss.com/users/drmartinus/Notebook.htm

in any case: You will find valuable information there.

For you first-time installation I would propose to install "VGA" in
the beginning, even if the installer would propose something else:
You will need GRADD (what I am using) or another C&T driver that is
not included in the installation disk. If you want to use PC-Cards,
just install _any_ brand, because contrary to the video installation
where you always have to deinstall any old ones first (or switch back
to VGA), here you better change an existing installation with new
drivers!

Greetings,
Cornelis Bockemhl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>

--------------------------------------------
Cornelis Bockemhl, Dornach, Switzerland
e-mail: cbockem AT datacomm DOT ch
(use this instead of antispam reply address)
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From: no.spam@no.spam.org                               10-Dec-99 15:47:18
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: OS2 & Toshiba 300CDT Laptop

From: "Cornelis Bockem?hl" <no.spam@no.spam.org>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:42:41 +0100 (CET), Cornelis Bockemhl wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:29:54 -0000, ID wrote:
>
>>I've been trying to install OS2 Warp 3 on a Toshiba 300CDT Laptop.  I
>>fdisk'd the hard disk to fat16. I inserted the Installation Diskette which
>>brings up an OS2 symbol in the top left cornet of the screen.  After about a
>>minute the machine reboots and continually performs the same task again,
>>never getting to disk 1.
>>
>>The machine has a 2.1Gb HD with 80Mb Ram.
>
>Sounds rather strange to me: I have a Toshiba 300CDS Laptop with the
>same size HD and 48MB RAM, and OS/2 installed there without a flaw!
>This of course only means: It _should_ work somehow...
>
>One more difference is that I use HPFS as my file system (which I
>would recommend in any case: FAT16 is far less safe and you are
>loosing a lot of disk space on HDs of that size, i.e. "huge" in the
>old days of DOS and FAT16!

[...]

Oops, another difference of course: I installed Warp4 and you tried
it with Warp3 - however no idea if this matters!

Greetings,
Cornelis Bockemhl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>

--------------------------------------------
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e-mail: cbockem AT datacomm DOT ch
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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   10-Dec-99 11:02:17
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: voicetype stopped working

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:17:09 GMT, jpedone_nospam@flash.net wrote:

:>  In <jnqfnpxvozarg.fmg4s50.pminews@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, "Peter Wadsack" 
<wadsack@ibm.net> writes:
:>  >at the worst possible time, of course.
:>  >
:>  >Finally, I selectively uninstalled, then reinstalled it.  This put it 
out of 
:>  >sync, missing fixpak corrections.
:>  >
:>  >So I discovered that <Service.exe> won't find VoiceType [installed on a 
:>  >different drive than OS/2] to service.  Long story, but I did it 
manually.
:>  >Except now I get:
:>  >
:>  
:>  This may or may not help but... in the FP read me you'll find:
:>  
:>   6.4 RELOCATED OS/2 FILE SUPPORT
:>  
:>     If you have moved OS/2 files or directories to a drive other than the 
one
:>     the SYSLEVEL.OS2 file is on, do the following in order to have them
:>     serviced:
:>  
:>        Create a file named USERDIRS.OS2 in the \OS2\INSTALL directory of 
the
:>        OS\2 Warp 4 partition to be serviced.
:>  
:>        In this file, place the full path to the directories you want to be
:>        serviced. Assuming your boot drive is C: and you installed 
Multimedia
:>        on the D: drive and manually moved WINOS2 support to the E: drive:
:>  
:>         D:\MMOS2
:>         D:\MMOS2\DLL
:>         D:\MMOS2\DSP
:>  
:>  You might try creating this file and reapplying the FP...
:>  
:>   
:>  J. Pedone
:>  jpedone@flash.net
:>  http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
:>   
:>  Windows NT: Vapourware of the desperate and scared.
:>  Beware of Geeks bearing gifs.
:>  

Thanks for the reminder!  I'll try that.  As I installed VT on a different 
drive originally, I assumed OS/2 kept track of that, unlike a manual move.

[Actually, for drag'n'drop to really work, there should be a central registry 
which is updated when things are moved, so that objects keep their 
references]



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     10-Dec-99 19:35:15
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:00
Subj: Re: OS2 & Toshiba 300CDT Laptop

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:29:54 -0000, ID wrote:

->I've been trying to install OS2 Warp 3 on a Toshiba 300CDT Laptop.  I
->fdisk'd the hard disk to fat16. I inserted the Installation Diskette which
->brings up an OS2 symbol in the top left cornet of the screen.  After about a
->minute the machine reboots and continually performs the same task again,
->never getting to disk 1.
->
->The machine has a 2.1Gb HD with 80Mb Ram.

Remake the install diskettes from the CD using CDINST.BAT and try again -
this will eliminate a corrupt diskette.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     10-Dec-99 19:20:09
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:00
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:59:10, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
wrote:

> I don't mean to be encouraging people to cowboy their systems, but 
> swapping in a PMMERGE.DLL from another version merely keeps it from 
> booting. Just learn how to reboot, gracefully and without cursing, to 
> a command line wherein you'll copy the previous version back in. A 
> good notebook is a nice thing to keep, if you're playing with things 
> like this, because in other cases (than PMMERGE) you might encounter 
> problems days or weeks later that you might trace to that wild seed, 
> and the notebook will jigger your memory to restore it before going 
> completely insane.
>  
> And of course I can be wrong about this particular situation, because 
> I haven't tried the swap in question with the file versions in 
> question.
>  
>  
> -- 
>  
> Good luck,
>  
> Buddy
>  
> Buddy Donnelly
> donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
> 

Yeah, but that takes all the FUN out  of trying to figure out what you
did to mess something up <G>. 

I knew a guy, a few years ago, who kept very detailed records of 
everything that he did to his computer, in a file on the computer. Of 
course, when the computer quit working, he had no way to get at the 
data to see what he did, that  might have caused the problem. The 
moral of this story, is keep an actual notebook, with more, or less, 
legible scribbling in it, if you are going to keep a log of events.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             10-Dec-99 23:01:01
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
Subj: (No subject)

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

Tell me about an IDE ZIP drive.

How is it seen by the OS- as a removable device, assigned a drive letter
or what?

I really hate to deal with IOMEGA but I need something for storing
moderate amounts of data and files off my HDD and it appears they are
less trouble than a LS-120.

How about configuring it? What swiches are required on IBM's IDE driver.

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: davidb@magicnet.net                               10-Dec-99 23:00:12
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
Subj: Re: Trap 000d  Really Bad Situation

From: davidb@magicnet.net

I apologize to all for the length of this post.  I'm cross posting in the
hopes that I can get some help.

Alex and others have tried to help in *networking.server & *.networking.tcpip
but I'm not
fixed yet some more input is needed.

I started to upgrade a base level Warp Server 4. using RSU and XR_w042.  It
said
it was for Warp Server.  I have previously installed the device driver pack. 
Every thing went
fine until reboot.  I had a trap 000d.  With some I help I figured out the d:
was trashed.
Unplugged and got past the "Processing locked files ...".

Now the machine locks after displaying 4 times,
"SYS1903 PMMERGE->PMGPI cannot be run in an OS/2 system"

"The file PMMERGE->PMGPI specified in the protshell statement ... does not
contain
a valid program"

System stopped.

And stopped I am.  I am hoping someone recognizes what the problem is and can
send some help.  The following is part of the exchange that is going on.



>>>>Alex,  ( and all others who have helped)
>>>>
>>>>Good news, bad news.
>>>>
>>>>You put me on the right path.  Memory wasn't the problem, the D: drive
was.  I tried chkdsk
>>>>on it and it couldn't find the root dir.  It tried to reconstruct and it
spewed out 513 corrections
>>>>until it hard locked ie. \found513\ prg name.  Tried again and it
\found513\found513\program name.
>>>>I pulled the power and got past the locked files.
>>>>
>>>>I now have two errors:
>>>>
>>>>sys0193 PMMERGE->PKGPI cannot be run in a OS/2 system  (4 times)
>>>>
>>>>sys1925 The file chkdsk does not contain a valid program
>>>>
>>>>and then
>>>>
>>>>The file PMMERGE->PMGPI specified in the PROTSHELL statement ... does not
>>>>contain a valid program.  System stopped.    Hard ...
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone have a clue from here?  I'm sure I could relay more info if
needed.
>>>
>
>David,
>
>It really looks like the fixpak install did not get some of the 
>necessary files updated.  Do you perhaps have these files in the OS2 
>directory passworded or read only?  

No,  no password or RO.

>
>Where did you get the fixpak from?  And are you sure that the install 
>disks were not corrupted? 

This was an RSU which went well.


>Oh, what fixpak did you install, and what are your current syslevels?  
>Run a syslevel > filename and attach the file here.  And what was your 
>base system you thouught you were applying the fixpak from?

See above


>I'm beginning to think that you ahve a system with mixed systems on it, 
>like WSeB as a base with a Warp Server fixpak, or some such nonsense.

I sure hope not ..


>Alex
>
>>>David
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, sounds like your D: drive is really trashed.  And I would
>>>guess a hardware burp started it all.  
>>>
>>>What version of HPFS are you using?  Have you applied any maintenance to
>>>it?  Or just fixpak maintenance, which will apply to the standard HPFS, 
>>>not HPFS386.
>>
>>This was the fixpack for Warp Server.  Version of HPFS?  I dunno ...
>>
>
>There is a product called HPFS386 , separate from the HPFS installed 
>with the base system.  HPFS386 has faster data functionality for a large
>server.  There is no maintenance for HPFS386, as far as I know.
>
>>>
>>>Where to go from here?  Do you have a backup of the D: drive?  (always 
>>>can ask <g>.  
>>
>>Yes I have a backup, but not as recent as I would wish and no, D: is not the 
boot
>>drive.  I suspect that the fix pack or driver pack may have injected
something new ( a new version
>>of AIC7870 (sic)?  I'm hoping I can reconstruct the data drive.  My
immediate concern
>>is the remedy for the esoteric error messages.
>>
>>Are they indicating that the *ini files are corrupt?  Do I have bad files? 
Do I restore
>>something to make this PMMERGE->PMGPI go away?
>>
>>What else can I do?
>>
>I don't see the ini files corrupted, but more likely that the versions 
>of chkdsk and pmmerge are not compatible with your base system.  There 
>are about 5 base levels of OS2, and you cannot mix the fixpaks among 
>them.
>
>>Tnx again
>>
>>David
>>
>>>
>>>BTW, is the D: drive your boot drive?  Would explain a lot.
>>>
>>>Alex

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          10-Dec-99 22:41:24
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
Subj: Re: PMMERGE problems

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 19:20:18, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug 
Bissett) wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:59:10, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
> wrote:
> 
> >  A 
> > good notebook is a nice thing to keep, if you're playing with things 
> > like this, because in other cases (than PMMERGE) you might encounter 
> > problems days or weeks later that you might trace to that wild seed, 
> > and the notebook will jigger your memory to restore it before going 
> > completely insane.
snip
> 
> Yeah, but that takes all the FUN out  of trying to figure out what you
> did to mess something up <G>. 
> 
> I knew a guy, a few years ago, who kept very detailed records of 
> everything that he did to his computer, in a file on the computer. Of 
> course, when the computer quit working, he had no way to get at the 
> data to see what he did, that  might have caused the problem. The 
> moral of this story, is keep an actual notebook, with more, or less, 
> legible scribbling in it, if you are going to keep a log of events.

I'm not ashamed to reveal that when I began my first attempts at using
OS/2, I fully intended to use a running note file on the root of the 
HD, to keep track of all such items. IBM should (still) be ashamed 
that I had to give that up almost immediately, since I couldn't get 
access to the HD often enough to use it. 

And I've still got the little steno pad I had to switch to, first 
dated entry 6-25-95, now dogeared and grimy. Sigh. La nostalgie. And 
the book even lists some of the names of IBM-ers who should be the 
most ashamed for jacking me around with my problems back then. When 
they auction my estate at Christie's, whoever ends up with the steno 
pad will be able to publicize those names to make their heirs cringe.

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: jdparker@erols.com                                09-Dec-99 23:39:00
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: FDISK and primary partitions

From: "James D Parker Jr." <jdparker@erols.com>

bob wrote:

> I have an 8.4GB IDE disk and 4.2GB SCSI. I have the DD fixpack
> installed, so all new drivers.
> The disk layouts are
> IDE
> Boot Manager
> C:  1.5GB Primary
>       1.5GB Primary (an alternative windows/linux C partition)
> D:  5.0 GB Extended
> E:  7MB Extended, just for holding the the drive letter
> F:  7 MB same
>
> SCSI All extended, HPFS for systems, programs and data
> G:, H:, I: etc
>
> When I run FDISK from an OS/2 FP12 partition, it sees everything OK.
> When I build a maintenance partition with SEMAINT, I get a mini OS/2
> command line system, similar to that on the boot diskettes. If I run
> FDISK from this it sees the spare 1.5GB primary partition as D: and
> shuffles all the rest of the letters up one position. Same if I use FP12
> FDISK. Everything else sees the partitions correctly.
> Any ideas.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Bob McLellan
> The Little Blue Kiwi
> OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland

How are the primary partitions formated? Which version of Boot Manager are
you using?

Quoting myself from another forum, this has been my experience and some
flavor of it may apply to your situation:

You need to be careful with Boot Manager and FAT32. I used the Boot Manager
that came with Partition Magic 3.0 and which  PowerQuest got from IBM.
Later I installed this Boot Manager on a machine that had Win98 preinstalled
in a FAT32
partition. It didn't handle it correctly. I went on a Partition Magic forum
and found that PowerQuest had a fix for the problem which I downloaded and
installed and this updated Boot Manager handled the FAT32 partition
correctly. The issue is that the Boot Manager that comes with Warp is
probably the same one that was originally distributed with Partition Magic
and thus probably suffers from the same problem. I don't know if IBM ever
distributed a fix for the problem.

The symptom of the problem was that, when I booted the FAT32 (Win98) primary
partition, the FAT  primary partition (In which I had installed DOS) was
visible. The FAT32 partition was assigned C: and the FAT partition got
assigned two drive letters. One of these "drives" appeared to Win98 to be of
0 length and inaccessable while the other appeared normal. The problem, of
course, is that there is supposed to be only one primary partition per
physical drive visible at any one time. I only had two primary partitions on
this drive (other than Boot Manager itself) so I don't know how it would
have dealt with more than two primaries.

I also had OS/2 installed in a logical partition but I did not have any
FAT32 drivers installed so I don't know whether it could have seen both the
DOS and the Win98 FAT32 partition. I suspect that it would have.

Jim


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From: jams@rhhs.com                                     10-Dec-99 04:45:05
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Warp 3 on the network ?

From: jams <jams@rhhs.com>

How do I get my base Warp 3 connected to the network ?
I need to install the NIC, setup TCPIP etc...
any help is greatly appreciated

James

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From: jdb@juliand.com                                   09-Dec-99 23:05:00
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: more info on help needed for warp3 hpfs install with win95

From: Julian Dominic <jdb@juliand.com>


Leo (Bing) Whiteway wrote:

> --
> My web page:
> http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw
> Okanagan Buy n Sell:
> http://www.voy.com/2156/
> Check this out:
> http://www.jobswarm.com/60223081-2593
> Running OS/2 Warp 3 with Netscape 2.02XR
> IBM PC Dos 7.0 with browsers Arachne 1.50B & NetTamer 1.12.2
> Caldera Open Linux 2.2 with Browser Netscape 4.61
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I have an AST P75 with IBM 586 running 133 mhz. 4.3 gig hard drive. 32 megs
> ram. I installed Caldera Open Linux 2.2 and used the linux fdisk to
> partition the hard drive with 600 megs in the first part of the hard drive
> for windows 95. I made a 350 meg partition for OS2 Warp 3 and then a 1024
> meg partition for linux and a 100 meg swap partition in the extended part.
>
> Before I did all this I was running the same hard drive with OS/2 Warp 3 in
> the first part of the hard drive with 400 megs with HPFS and then 250 megs
> for IBM PC Dos 7. Then I had Caldera Open linux in 800 megs and the swap
> again in the extended partition at 100 megs. Everything ran fine with no
> conflicts. I ran Ranish part237.zip to look after the booting.
>
>      Now I have redone the drive using fdisk in linux to make the new
> partitions of 600 megs for windows 95, 350 megs for OS/2 Warp 3 HPFS, and
> 250 megs for IBM PC Dos 7.then the rest as extended partition. In this
> extended partition, I have 1024 for linux and 100 megs for linux swap.
>
> Now windows runs ok, PC Dos is good, and linux runs fine. I am unable to
> install OS/2 Warp because I get a message saying I don't have a partition of
> minimum 35 megs. The Partition I have set aside for OS/2 is 350 megs.
> If I was able to install things before I put windoze in, why can't I now?
> Is there some way to do it? Any help will be appreciated.

  What does the OS/2 fdisk think you have available now?  Is it marked
"installable?"  The windoz install may have marked it Fat32.  OS/2 can't see
this partition.

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From: jdb@juliand.com                                   10-Dec-99 17:13:28
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: more info on help needed for warp3 hpfs install with win95

From: Julian Dominic <jdb@juliand.com>


Julian Dominic wrote:

> Leo (Bing) Whiteway wrote:
>
> > --
> > My web page:
> > http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw
> > Okanagan Buy n Sell:
> > http://www.voy.com/2156/
> > Check this out:
> > http://www.jobswarm.com/60223081-2593
> > Running OS/2 Warp 3 with Netscape 2.02XR
> > IBM PC Dos 7.0 with browsers Arachne 1.50B & NetTamer 1.12.2
> > Caldera Open Linux 2.2 with Browser Netscape 4.61
> >
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > I have an AST P75 with IBM 586 running 133 mhz. 4.3 gig hard drive. 32
megs
> > ram. I installed Caldera Open Linux 2.2 and used the linux fdisk to
> > partition the hard drive with 600 megs in the first part of the hard drive
> > for windows 95. I made a 350 meg partition for OS2 Warp 3 and then a 1024
> > meg partition for linux and a 100 meg swap partition in the extended part.
> >
> > Before I did all this I was running the same hard drive with OS/2 Warp 3
in
> > the first part of the hard drive with 400 megs with HPFS and then 250 megs
> > for IBM PC Dos 7. Then I had Caldera Open linux in 800 megs and the swap
> > again in the extended partition at 100 megs. Everything ran fine with no
> > conflicts. I ran Ranish part237.zip to look after the booting.
> >
> >      Now I have redone the drive using fdisk in linux to make the new
> > partitions of 600 megs for windows 95, 350 megs for OS/2 Warp 3 HPFS, and
> > 250 megs for IBM PC Dos 7.then the rest as extended partition. In this
> > extended partition, I have 1024 for linux and 100 megs for linux swap.
> >
> > Now windows runs ok, PC Dos is good, and linux runs fine. I am unable to
> > install OS/2 Warp because I get a message saying I don't have a partition
of
> > minimum 35 megs. The Partition I have set aside for OS/2 is 350 megs.
> > If I was able to install things before I put windoze in, why can't I now?
> > Is there some way to do it? Any help will be appreciated.
>
>   What does the OS/2 fdisk think you have available now?  Is it marked
> "installable?"  The windoz install may have marked it Fat32.  OS/2 can't see
> this partition.

Yesterday, I hosed my OS/2 partition and reformatted the partition.  When I
tried
to install, fdisk kept failing.  It didn't seem to like the 21 meg linux boot
partition which was the first partition.  What followed was a 100 meg
partition
for linux swapping, and a 130 meg space that was part of the part of my /root
partition structure.  I was able to use Partition Magic from Win98. 
Everything I
tried failed.  Finally I delete the linux partitions and left them as free
space.
Then fdisk worked fine.  I marked my 500 meg OS/2 partition installable, and
everything went fine from there.

I'm not really a partition expert but it seems to me that OS/2 can perceive
enough
freespace at the front of the disk fdisk fails even though it doesn't have to
be
installed at the front of the disk.  Perhaps this is a logic error since I
doubt
that a lot of resource is expended generating cases for fdisk and not
recognizing
the linux file structure does not seem to be part of OS/2 fdisk.


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From: jdb@juliand.com                                   10-Dec-99 17:16:03
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: more info on help needed for warp3 hpfs install with win95

From: Julian Dominic <jdb@juliand.com>


Julian Dominic wrote:

> Leo (Bing) Whiteway wrote:
>
> > --
> > My web page:
> > http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw
> > Okanagan Buy n Sell:
> > http://www.voy.com/2156/
> > Check this out:
> > http://www.jobswarm.com/60223081-2593
> > Running OS/2 Warp 3 with Netscape 2.02XR
> > IBM PC Dos 7.0 with browsers Arachne 1.50B & NetTamer 1.12.2
> > Caldera Open Linux 2.2 with Browser Netscape 4.61
> >
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > I have an AST P75 with IBM 586 running 133 mhz. 4.3 gig hard drive. 32
megs
> > ram. I installed Caldera Open Linux 2.2 and used the linux fdisk to
> > partition the hard drive with 600 megs in the first part of the hard drive
> > for windows 95. I made a 350 meg partition for OS2 Warp 3 and then a 1024
> > meg partition for linux and a 100 meg swap partition in the extended part.
> >
> > Before I did all this I was running the same hard drive with OS/2 Warp 3
in
> > the first part of the hard drive with 400 megs with HPFS and then 250 megs
> > for IBM PC Dos 7. Then I had Caldera Open linux in 800 megs and the swap
> > again in the extended partition at 100 megs. Everything ran fine with no
> > conflicts. I ran Ranish part237.zip to look after the booting.
> >
> >      Now I have redone the drive using fdisk in linux to make the new
> > partitions of 600 megs for windows 95, 350 megs for OS/2 Warp 3 HPFS, and
> > 250 megs for IBM PC Dos 7.then the rest as extended partition. In this
> > extended partition, I have 1024 for linux and 100 megs for linux swap.
> >
> > Now windows runs ok, PC Dos is good, and linux runs fine. I am unable to
> > install OS/2 Warp because I get a message saying I don't have a partition
of
> > minimum 35 megs. The Partition I have set aside for OS/2 is 350 megs.
> > If I was able to install things before I put windoze in, why can't I now?
> > Is there some way to do it? Any help will be appreciated.
>
>   What does the OS/2 fdisk think you have available now?  Is it marked
> "installable?"  The windoz install may have marked it Fat32.  OS/2 can't see
> this partition.

Oh, by the way, I hope it is clear that my approach destroyed my linux
installation.  For me this is not a big deal since I learning linux and don't
believe you can learn an operating system without installing it a few times.

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           11-Dec-99 01:00:27
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:23
Subj: Re: IDE ZIP drive was (No subject)

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:01:02, rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) 
wrote:

> Tell me about an IDE ZIP drive.
> 
> How is it seen by the OS- as a removable device, assigned a drive letter
> or what?
> 
> I really hate to deal with IOMEGA but I need something for storing
> moderate amounts of data and files off my HDD and it appears they are
> less trouble than a LS-120.
> 
> How about configuring it? What swiches are required on IBM's IDE driver.

The IDE ZIP drive requires that you have the latest update
for the IDE device drivers installed and that you are using
Fixpack 6 for Warp 4 or later to obtain the removable device
support.

Device drivers have been moved to their own fixpack
series so if you install FP 12 you should also install
the DD01 fixpack.

You can obtain these through RSU updates or through
the FTP site ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/

With the IDE ZIP you just connect it to the IDE cable
(checking for Slave or Master of course) and if you
have the device support installed it comes up automatically.

The base device driver that is required (besides IBM1S506.add)
is IBMATAPI.FLT

Partition the cartridge and format for FAT or HPFS.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           11-Dec-99 01:09:15
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:23
Subj: Re: Trap 000d  Really Bad Situation

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

It looks like the file PMGPI.DLL is missing.

Can you boot to a command prompt. The ALT-F1 at boot
time then choose the command line choice. 

If you can the PMGPI.DLL "should" be in the
directory that you specified for the BACKUP.

You have to use UNPACK or UNPACK2 to de-compress the
file.

Lorne

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:00:25, davidb@magicnet.net wrote:

> I apologize to all for the length of this post.  I'm cross posting in the
hopes that I can get some help.
> 
> Alex and others have tried to help in *networking.server &
*.networking.tcpip but I'm not
> fixed yet some more input is needed.
> 
> I started to upgrade a base level Warp Server 4. using RSU and XR_w042.  It
said
> it was for Warp Server.  I have previously installed the device driver pack. 
 Every thing went
> fine until reboot.  I had a trap 000d.  With some I help I figured out the
d: was trashed.
> Unplugged and got past the "Processing locked files ...".
> 
> Now the machine locks after displaying 4 times,
> "SYS1903 PMMERGE->PMGPI cannot be run in an OS/2 system"
> 
> "The file PMMERGE->PMGPI specified in the protshell statement ... does not
contain
> a valid program"
> 
> System stopped.
> 
> And stopped I am.  I am hoping someone recognizes what the problem is and
can
> send some help.  The following is part of the exchange that is going on.
> 
> 
> 
> >>>>Alex,  ( and all others who have helped)
> >>>>
> >>>>Good news, bad news.
> >>>>
> >>>>You put me on the right path.  Memory wasn't the problem, the D: drive
was.  I tried chkdsk
> >>>>on it and it couldn't find the root dir.  It tried to reconstruct and it 
spewed out 513 corrections
> >>>>until it hard locked ie. \found513\ prg name.  Tried again and it
\found513\found513\program name.
> >>>>I pulled the power and got past the locked files.
> >>>>
> >>>>I now have two errors:
> >>>>
> >>>>sys0193 PMMERGE->PKGPI cannot be run in a OS/2 system  (4 times)
> >>>>
> >>>>sys1925 The file chkdsk does not contain a valid program
> >>>>
> >>>>and then
> >>>>
> >>>>The file PMMERGE->PMGPI specified in the PROTSHELL statement ... does
not
> >>>>contain a valid program.  System stopped.    Hard ...
> >>>>
> >>>>Does anyone have a clue from here?  I'm sure I could relay more info if
needed.
> >>>
> >
> >David,
> >
> >It really looks like the fixpak install did not get some of the 
> >necessary files updated.  Do you perhaps have these files in the OS2 
> >directory passworded or read only?  
> 
> No,  no password or RO.
> 
> >
> >Where did you get the fixpak from?  And are you sure that the install 
> >disks were not corrupted? 
> 
> This was an RSU which went well.
> 
> 
> >Oh, what fixpak did you install, and what are your current syslevels?  
> >Run a syslevel > filename and attach the file here.  And what was your 
> >base system you thouught you were applying the fixpak from?
> 
> See above
> 
> 
> >I'm beginning to think that you ahve a system with mixed systems on it, 
> >like WSeB as a base with a Warp Server fixpak, or some such nonsense.
> 
> I sure hope not ..
> 
> 
> >Alex
> >
> >>>David
> >>>
> >>>Unfortunately, sounds like your D: drive is really trashed.  And I would
> >>>guess a hardware burp started it all.  
> >>>
> >>>What version of HPFS are you using?  Have you applied any maintenance to
> >>>it?  Or just fixpak maintenance, which will apply to the standard HPFS, 
> >>>not HPFS386.
> >>
> >>This was the fixpack for Warp Server.  Version of HPFS?  I dunno ...
> >>
> >
> >There is a product called HPFS386 , separate from the HPFS installed 
> >with the base system.  HPFS386 has faster data functionality for a large
> >server.  There is no maintenance for HPFS386, as far as I know.
> >
> >>>
> >>>Where to go from here?  Do you have a backup of the D: drive?  (always 
> >>>can ask <g>.  
> >>
> >>Yes I have a backup, but not as recent as I would wish and no, D: is not
the boot
> >>drive.  I suspect that the fix pack or driver pack may have injected
something new ( a new version
> >>of AIC7870 (sic)?  I'm hoping I can reconstruct the data drive.  My
immediate concern
> >>is the remedy for the esoteric error messages.
> >>
> >>Are they indicating that the *ini files are corrupt?  Do I have bad files? 
 Do I restore
> >>something to make this PMMERGE->PMGPI go away?
> >>
> >>What else can I do?
> >>
> >I don't see the ini files corrupted, but more likely that the versions 
> >of chkdsk and pmmerge are not compatible with your base system.  There 
> >are about 5 base levels of OS2, and you cannot mix the fixpaks among 
> >them.
> >
> >>Tnx again
> >>
> >>David
> >>
> >>>
> >>>BTW, is the D: drive your boot drive?  Would explain a lot.
> >>>
> >>>Alex
> 


--

Lorne Sunley

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               10-Dec-99 17:32:00
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 23:09:10
Subj: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Here's some hot news for all you NON-Warp City Members:

FST Inc, has joined in a business partnership arrangement
with National DialUp Services and InnoVal Systems Solutions,
to provide a low-cost nationwide ISP service for OS/2 users.
ISP800, a private brand ISP for corporate customers, is
inaugurating service for consumers on January 3,  2000.

Extra special prices are available for any OS/2 user who
pre-registers for  the service by December 30, 1999. In
addition, three subscribers will be selected, at random,
from the first 100 OS/2 users who signup. These three
subscribers will receive free ISP service for one year until
December 31, 2000.

Highlights of ISP800 service include:

Your choice of:

Unlimited 56K access through an 800 dialup number or unlimited service
using a local dialup number.

A high performance and high capacity POP3 email mailbox

SMTP outbound email

Toll free 24/7 technical support

Very low cost for OS/2 users. ISP800 may also be used with Linux,
Mac, and  Windows95/98 client platforms.

No signup fees. You may cancel the service at the end of any month.

Anyone who travels, uses the Internet from more than one permanent
location, or lives in an area not supported by a local access number,
is encouraged to use the 800 number. Performance on the 800 number
is equal to that of local access numbers since all connections are
automatically and instantly re-directed through a close-proximity
modem. Access with the 800 number is available anywhere in the
United States where a dial tone is available. THERE IS NEVER AN
ADDITIONAL FEE FOR USING THE 800 NUMBER TO ACCESS ISP800.
Airfone (in plane service) and some hotels do charge access
fees when you dial an 800 number.

ISP800 Prices:

    Regular service:   $19.95
    For all OS/2 Users:   $15.95 ***

*** Anyone who pre-registers for the service by December 30, 1999, will
receive the first year of service for only $11.95 per month. You must be
an
OS/2 user to pre-register at this price. Your pre-registration must be
received by 5:00pm on 12/30/99.

Additional email accounts are $3.95 per month. Limit is four additional
email accounts.

Please note: There is no direct USENET newsgroup access at this time. If

enough OS/2 users subscribe and there is sufficient interest, ISP800
will
add newsgroup access for OS/2 users. Deja (dejanews) and other web-based

newsgroup services may be used in lieu of standard USENET.

For additional information, and to signup for ISP800, please visit
http://isp800.com/os2. In particular, see the price page and the FAQ
page.
For additional information send an email to os2isp@innoval.com.

---------------------

The OS/2 Community should sit up and take notice and support
this new enterprise!

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City (http://warpcity.com)
"Y2K Special Discount Memberships Close 12/15!)

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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             11-Dec-99 02:28:04
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 23:09:10
Subj: Re: IDE ZIP drive was (No subject)

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 01:00:54, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) 
wrote:
 
> > How about configuring it? What swiches are required on IBM's IDE driver.
 
> The IDE ZIP drive requires that you have the latest update
> for the IDE device drivers installed and that you are using
> Fixpack 6 for Warp 4 or later to obtain the removable device
> support.

Hmmm...I'm using W3 FP 40 and the DANIS IDE driver. Any problems there?

> Device drivers have been moved to their own fixpack
> series so if you install FP 12 you should also install
> the DD01 fixpack.
> 
> You can obtain these through RSU updates or through
> the FTP site ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/
> 
> With the IDE ZIP you just connect it to the IDE cable
> (checking for Slave or Master of course) and if you
> have the device support installed it comes up automatically.
> 
> The base device driver that is required (besides IBM1S506.add)
> is IBMATAPI.FLT
 
> Partition the cartridge and format for FAT or HPFS.

So then is it seen as a HDD, IOW appears in FDISK?

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