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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          04-Dec-99 01:14:27
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 05:22:12
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 23:33:01, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John 
Hong) wrote:

> Buddy Donnelly (donnelly@tampabay.rr.com) wrote:
> 
> : many users never use and may not even know is there.) Frames are or can be 

> : used for body text, headers, footers, illustrations, captions, tables,
drop
> 
> 	How do you stick in captions?  I was looking for this in the 
> manual but couldn't see anything.  Do you just stick in another text 
> frame under the picture frame?

Yes. And you can use Page | Attach Frame to allow such pictures and 
captions to stay with the nearest appropriate body text, as the body 
grows or shrinks due to editing.

I've found it works pretty well to *first* create a Text Frame for the
Caption, make it Flow and Stretch Box, move it to the back, then 
create the Picture frame over the top, make it Flow and Transparent, 
and attach them with Attach Frame. Then you can use the Move Frame 
tool (or Alt -POM) to move them wherever you want to. Don't forget the
handy Ctrl-J shortkey that toggles through all the frames until you've
selected the one you want.

Also, with the "Stretch Frame" attribute, you sometimes have to 
stretch it to let it snap into place. Kind of like refreshing it?

If there's a simpler way to manage these, I haven't found it.

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: mikelrob@flash.net                                04-Dec-99 01:39:06
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 05:22:12
Subj: Comm461 Anomalies

From: mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson)

	I have two problems with Comm461.  The first is that I somehow 
managed to indicate to it that its temp file should be a Lotus Work 
file that doesn't exist any longer.  It tells me to change it in 
Preferences but I can't see where to do that.

	The second problem is that I get an "Unsupported Java Version" 
message, presumably because my pointer to Java 1.8 isn't accepted by 
the Communicator dialogue.  It closes with  an "Unable to locate 
JAVAI.DLL in the specified path" message even though the file is in 
that path.  Interestingly enough, however, Browse shows Java11\dll all
right but doesn't show any files in dll.  I don't get it.  Any ideas 
out there?

	Michael Robertson

***Live simply, that others may simply live.***

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    04-Dec-99 02:13:23
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 05:22:12
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Timur Kazimirov (timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz) wrote:

: Absolutely agree! The IBM Works for OS/2 is a great set of tools (including
: PIM). As for as me, the word processor component of IBM Works has only
: one missing feature I would like to see - indents before and after
: paragraphs.
: And spreadsheet component has no "Center across columns" feature.

: I'm sure that text processing and spreadsheet components of IBM Works
: aren't so complex as the same parts of LSS and SO but their power is
: enough in many cases.

	Agreed.  IBM Works, the latest version 3.0 (comes with Warp 4) 
was really nice.  The only advantage mind you that Works 3.0 had over 2.1 
is that IBM updated the graphic filters.

	For me, it came very close to being my main word processor, but 
the lack of endnotes made that impossible.

	To bad IBM doesn't open it up or let someone else take over it.  
I can see why they won't open it up, otherwise someone talented enough 
could make IBM Works into a threat to their Lotus Smartsuite for OS/2 
product.


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From: vlad@mail.netwave.de                              04-Dec-99 03:07:17
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 05:22:12
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: vlad@mail.netwave.de (Vlad Berditchevskiy)

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:04:58, jondrake@melbpc.org.au wrote:

> A simple question to this distinguished company - what's the best OS2 word
processor.

TeX. Everything else sucks.
You can get OS2TeX here:
http://www.tu-darmstadt.de/~kleinboe/os2tex/html
There is also an OS/2 port of EmTeX distribution (I don't remember the 
URL).

-- 
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                                        e-mail: vlad@mail.netwave.de
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From: jabraham@ucalgary.ca                              03-Dec-99 21:29:20
  To: raphaelt@worldnet.att.net                         04-Dec-99 05:22:12
Subj: Re: Bold Fonts are TOO BIG in Wordpro. help.

To: raphaelt@worldnet.att.net
From: John Abraham <jabraham@ucalgary.ca>

Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:
> 
> John Abraham <jabraham@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> 
> >A funny thing happened to my WordPro (v1.1).  Fonts get really big when
> >they are bold.  A 12 point times new roman character looks about 30
> >point when I make it bold.
> 
> They print out big, or "just" display big? 

They don't print out big, but WordPro does the line spacing on the
print-out as if they were big.  So I have these lines that are widely
spaced on the print out.

> If the latter,
> I'd try reinstalling the video drivers for your card.  I
> must say I've never heard of this one before.
> 
> Are you getting it with other SS products?

That's the funny thing.  It only seems to be happening on WordPro.  All
other apps, even smartsuite apps, seem to work fine.

It's stopped again, at least for now.  Maybe uninstalling and
re-installing the fonts did help somehow.

If it happens again maybe I'll try reinstalling smartsuite.

-- 
John Abraham, M.Sc. P.Eng.
T.J. Modelling Ltd.
Mathematical Modelling for Transportation Planning and Urban Design
jabraham@ucalgary.ca

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           04-Dec-99 05:41:05
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: os2 warp recomendation?

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 05:14:12, claus littmann <santacll@sk.sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> i presently have warp3 installed on two different computers, and would
> appreciate some feedback on who has used it and has upgraded to warp4,
> 
> i unfortunately have to use software compatible with my clients which
> limits me to win95/98 and ms office suite.  has there been anyway to run
> msoffice under os/2?
> 

I've used OS/2 versions 2.0 2.1 3.0 and 4.0

Moving from Warp 3 to 4 is fairly easy. I would recommend
a new installation of Warp 4 rather than upgrading your
existing Warp 3 drives. The new install is usually cleaner
and will not import any problems from the Warp 3 installs.

Warp 4 requires more RAM than Warp 3 installs. I would
recommend a minimum of 32 Mbytes of RAM and would
suggest 64 Mbytes. A 485 processer is acceptable 
but a Pentium class machine will be much nicer to
work on.

MS Office does NOT run under any OS/2 version.

You might want to look at Star Office (free download
from http://www.sun.com ) It is capable of handling
the MS office file formats so you would have file compatibility
with your clients.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: rjlapham@infinet.com                              03-Dec-99 23:58:10
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61

From: rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham)

In <38473713-nukewaste@wwivbbs.org>, on 12/02/99 
   at 09:20 PM, "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org> said:

> Does Netscape 4.61 work under Warp 3?

It works OK here (FP32) although I had problems with the install until I
tried installing from my FP42 maintenance partition.  I'm still having
trouble with Java, though.

    -Jerry
-- 
============================================================
Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: rjlapham@infinet.com
Written Friday, December 03, 1999 - 11:58 PM (EST)
============================================================
MR/2 Ice tag:  "Al Gore is better than George W. Bush at naming the presidents 
of tiny countries because he has hit up all of them for contributions to the
Democrat National Committee." -- George Melloan 

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From: rjlapham@infinet.com                              04-Dec-99 00:06:14
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham)

In <%EE14.5561$X5.512561@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, on 12/03/99 
   at 01:02 AM, cotroneo@stny.rr.com said:

> >> I use DeScribe for everything.  Depends on how much you want from a
> >> word processor.  It's not great for Desktop publishing.

> Wonderful..... but what is the point of telling us about a software
> program that is unavailable for purchase? Wasn't the request for
> guidance in buying a good wordprocessor? If so Describe is not an
> option.

You can still find it on eBay, etc.

    -Jerry
-- 
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Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: rjlapham@infinet.com
Written Saturday, December 04, 1999 - 12:06 AM (EST)
============================================================
MR/2 Ice tag:  I hadn't been too worried about Y2K until Bill Clinton
announced that it won't be a problem.

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From: rjlapham@infinet.com                              04-Dec-99 00:01:22
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61

From: rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham)

In <3847175C.216E4320@magi.com>, on 12/02/99 
   at 08:05 PM, Allan Mau <aemau@magi.com> said:

> I have just installed Netscape 4.61 and find that the boxes where I used
> to enter my account and password no longer show on my screen.  I
> reinstalled 4.04 and found no problem.  Does anyone have any idea what's
> going on?

Change your fixed width font from Courier New to Courier.

    -Jerry
-- 
============================================================
Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: rjlapham@infinet.com
Written Saturday, December 04, 1999 - 12:01 AM (EST)
============================================================
MR/2 Ice tag:  Trust the computer industry to shorten "Year 2000" to Y2K.  It
was this kind of thinking that caused the problem in the first place.

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 03-Dec-99 22:34:11
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:04:58, jondrake@melbpc.org.au wrote:

> A simple question to this distinguished company - what's
>the best OS2 word processor. All suggestions welcomed and
>gratefully received.

The best text editor for writers, period, is XyWrite.
Thanks to two industrious and brilliant XPL (XyWrite
Programming Language) programmers, it works superbly under
OS/2, with TONS of PM/WPS integration, including the ability
to create and access long filenames.

Check out

	http://www.serve.com/xywwweb/


--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: santacll@sk.sympatico.ca                          03-Dec-99 23:14:06
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: os2 warp recomendation?

From: claus littmann <santacll@sk.sympatico.ca>

i presently have warp3 installed on two different computers, and would
appreciate some feedback on who has used it and has upgraded to warp4,

i unfortunately have to use software compatible with my clients which
limits me to win95/98 and ms office suite.  has there been anyway to run
msoffice under os/2?

thanks for any comments and suggestions

c.l.

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          04-Dec-99 06:42:17
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: chkdsk on WSeB takes a long time

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 00:52:18, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) 
wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 23:24:11, "Trevor Hemsley" 
> <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 3 Dec 1999 22:13:12 GMT, Tim Stephen wrote:
> > 
> > ->    Running WSeB on a machine with a 4 gig and two 9 gig scsi drives
> > ->partitioned into 17 logical disks, chkdsk takes nearly 25 minutes to
> > ->check and clean up after an ungraceful hard system reset.  It chugs away
> > ->for the full 25 minutes so I'm not complaining that it's lazy or
> > ->anything, just surprisingly slow.  Is this normal?
> > 
> > On an Adaptec SCSI controller? If it's a 2940 series rather than a 2940U2W
> > then you may find it of benefit to backlevel to a Warp 4 (pre-fixpack 10)
> > version of AIC7870.ADD as the ~132Kb Adaptec version takes an age to
> > auto-CHKDSK during boot. Once booted the two drivers are more or less
> > identical in performance but during the boot when autocheck runs the
> > newer, larger driver is about 6 times slower. The 2940U2W driver has no
> > version of the code without the bug so you can't use an older version. A
> > workaround is to create a small maintenance partition containing only
> > itself in the autocheck list, boot that and then run a non-auto CHKDSK
> > against the rest of your drives and reboot normally.
> > 
> > 
> 
> You might also consider using the JFS format for the partitions.
> 
> This is MUCH faster to CHKDSK than HPFS partitions.
> 

But if you go to JFS, with Adaptec's AIC7870.ADD driver, be very 
careful about doing a CHKDSK under boot that loads a different version
of the AIC driver. It can hang the machine, appearing to be replaying 
a journal but actually not being able to read the correct geometry.


-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           04-Dec-99 02:21:24
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: Zip 100 parallel

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-mXvbfy7stmRj@localhost>, on 12/03/99 at 07:05 PM,
   doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

> Actually, a DOS quick format (with the /Q parameter) is slower, on a  PP
> ZIP drive, than a normal format. A normal format doesn't really  format
> anything and goes very quickly, while a quick format spends a  lot of
> time fooling around with enabling the unformat stuff. I wish  there was
> a way to do a quick format (DOS), without the unformat step, like OS/2
> does (OS/2 seems to skip the unformat step, when you specify /Q).
> Whoever dreamed up unformat, should be taken out and shot.

There is and always has been a way in DOS. The command line is:

Format x: /q /u/autotest

The /u does it without any attempt to store unformat information. The
/autotest stops it from asking about do you want to do this? Label, etc.




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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.01 Registration Number 67
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From: os2user@colba.net                                 04-Dec-99 03:05:23
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: Software Choice

From: Gilbert Lefebvre <os2user@colba.net>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> "bernd hohmann" <hohmann@harddiskcafe.de> said:
> 
> >we are trying to subscribe to software choice and we are glad to pay for
> >it but neither ibm germany nor the resellers are able to give us
> >informations. ibm germany is not responding to email, voicecalls or fax
> >and the resellers are waiting for informations from ibm.
> 
> I'm not sure if they handle other than English, but check with Indelible
> Blue.  Last time I looked, their prices were better than IBM's.

I'm in Canada and have heard Indelible Blue was not allowed to sell
software choice out of the USA. This was true a year and a half ago and
don't know if it has changed...

----
Gilbert Lefebvre

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    04-Dec-99 10:27:19
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 10:37:14
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Vlad Berditchevskiy (vlad@mail.netwave.de) wrote:
: On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:04:58, jondrake@melbpc.org.au wrote:

: > A simple question to this distinguished company - what's the best OS2
: > word processor.

: TeX. Everything else sucks.

	While I do plan on learning TeX one of these days, it is not 
going to be everyones cup of tea.  The main problem with it is that it 
isn't like most word processors.  Perhaps the GUI one's have most people 
brainwashed, but when I do work with stuff like StarOffice, Microsoft 
Word, Describe, WordPerfect, Word Pro, etc.  It is all familiar to me.  
Only thing that changes is certain key strokes, but since most of the 
stuff can be accessed by mouse, it sort of makes that a moot point.

	One thing I do like about TeX is that it is as universal as it 
can possibly be.  I'm not sure of any platform that doesn't have a 
implementation of it somewhere.


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From: Tim Stephen@CIOS.ORG                              04-Dec-99 14:20:01
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Re: chkdsk on WSeB takes a long time

From: Tim Stephen@CIOS.ORG (Tim Stephen)

Thanks very much for the info.  Unfortunately it's a 2940U2W.
Perhaps I'll try Trevor's suggestion re: small boot partition.

Where ought one to watch for the appearance of a fixed version of the
2940U2W driver?

Tim

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From: peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be                      04-Dec-99 15:08:23
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Epson Stylus Color 740 or 750

From: Peter Wuyts <peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be>

Anyone some experience with those printers and OS/2 ?
Which driver is the best : IBM's omni-driver or Epson's omni-driver?

Thanks,

Peter Wuyts
peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be


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From: rdegenna@utk.edu                                  04-Dec-99 14:25:15
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Is it me or do the same fonts look different in Netscape 4.61?

From: rdegenna@utk.edu

I have both NS 2.02 and 4.61 on the same system.  Got them both set to use 
Times New Roman 12-point.  If I load the same page on both, it's much easier 
to read the text on 2.02.  Why?

One guess is that it's not really the same font and I just THINK I have them 
both on Times New Roman 12-point.   But I know it's 12-point, at least--until
I switched from 10-point to 12-point, text using 4.61 was completely
unreadable.

Anyone else notice a difference?

Ray DeGennaro

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               04-Dec-99 16:00:25
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

John Hong schrieb:
>         While I do plan on learning TeX one of these days, it is not
> going to be everyones cup of tea.  The main problem with it is that it
> isn't like most word processors.  Perhaps the GUI one's have most people
> brainwashed, but when I do work with stuff like StarOffice, Microsoft
> Word, Describe, WordPerfect, Word Pro, etc.  It is all familiar to me.
> Only thing that changes is certain key strokes, but since most of the
> stuff can be accessed by mouse, it sort of makes that a moot point.

Ever tried LyX for XFree86/OS2? It's a GUI for LaTeX that can do quite a
couple of things. It's a bit tricky to install if you want support for
Ghostscript, xdvi etc., but the package contains a good README.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               04-Dec-99 16:04:16
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Re: Is it me or do the same fonts look different in Netscape 4.61?

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

rdegenna@utk.edu schrieb:
> I have both NS 2.02 and 4.61 on the same system.  Got them both set to use
> Times New Roman 12-point.  If I load the same page on both, it's much easier
> to read the text on 2.02.  Why?

The two versions of Netscape use a different font rendering engine. You
can improve the look of some fonts in Comm 4.61 by installing the
Freetype engine.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               04-Dec-99 17:43:08
  To: santacll@sk.sympatico.ca                          04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Re: os2 warp recomendation?

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

To: claus littmann <santacll@sk.sympatico.ca>
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

claus littmann wrote:
> 
> i presently have warp3 installed on two different computers, and would
> appreciate some feedback on who has used it and has upgraded to warp4,
> 
> i unfortunately have to use software compatible with my clients which
> limits me to win95/98 and ms office suite.  has there been anyway to run
> msoffice under os/2?
> 
> thanks for any comments and suggestions
> 
> c.l.

Office 2 (win 16 runs under OS/2 Ver3 or Warp)  Office 95 and higher
does not run on any OS/2 version.

Charles

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Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
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From: m.o.davis@gte.net                                 04-Dec-99 17:44:12
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 14:21:16
Subj: Re: Comm461 Anomalies

From: m.o.davis@gte.net (Mark Davis)

In message <dqJ9uufYDYBW-pn2-PQuGqr3JWBfi@p111.amax8.dialup.sjc1.flash.net> -
mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson)Sat, 04 Dec 1999 01:39:13 GMT writes:
:>
:>	I have two problems with Comm461.  The first is that I somehow 
:>managed to indicate to it that its temp file should be a Lotus Work 
:>file that doesn't exist any longer.  It tells me to change it in 
:>Preferences but I can't see where to do that.

What are your TMP and TEMP environmental variables set to? Edit CONFIG.SYS to
make sure they are set to a directory that actually exists.

:>
:>	The second problem is that I get an "Unsupported Java Version" 
:>message, presumably because my pointer to Java 1.8 isn't accepted by 
:>the Communicator dialogue.  It closes with  an "Unable to locate 
:>JAVAI.DLL in the specified path" message even though the file is in 
:>that path.  Interestingly enough, however, Browse shows Java11\dll all
:>right but doesn't show any files in dll.  I don't get it.  Any ideas 
:>out there?

The Comm 4.61 installation process doesn't set up the CLASSPATH properly. Go
into Preferences/OS/2 Preferences/IBM Java Properties. In the "Enter optional
Classpath" field, enter the path to NSComm46\PROGRAM\java\classes\118\118.zip,
then select one of the Append to... buttons (it doesn't seem to matter which
one).

:>
:>	Michael Robertson
:>
:>***Live simply, that others may simply live.***



Mark Davis
San Angelo, TX

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Dec-99 18:30:17
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:18
Subj: Re: Zip 100 parallel

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 23:26:02, "Trevor Hemsley" 
<Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

> On 3 Dec 1999 19:05:27 GMT, Doug Bissett wrote:
> 
> ->I wish 
> ->there was a way to do a quick format (DOS), without the unformat step,
> 
> format z: /q /u
> 
> in DOS.
> 
> 
> Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
> 

You know, I never thought about using /Q and /U at the same time. 
Works though...

Thanks...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: pNoOrStPiAgM@attglobal.net                        04-Dec-99 18:59:06
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:18
Subj: Re: Remote Access to OS/2 (eg. MS NetMeeting)

From: pNoOrStPiAgM@attglobal.net (Harald Portig)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:18:17, alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) 
wrote:

> This looks like an interesting program, looking around the web page.
> I'm evaluating possibilities for this kind of thing myself (Netfinity
> is nice, but kind of slow).

DTOC is somewhat slow also, cannot compare it to Netfinity, though, 
because I never have used it.  It seems to load the server pretty 
heavily -- the load meter in WarpCenter on the server is at about 65% 
CPU load.  The server has a Pentium II, 300 MHz, 128 Mb RAM.
 
> I couldn't find anything about trial versions or evaluations, though...
> just an ordering link.  Is there such a thing?  I'm certainly not going
> to buy something without being able to try it out first...

I seem to remember that on the webpages where one can buy this program
there is mention of a procedure to return an electronically purchased 
program.  This may be on the download page.  Of course I don't know 
how well that works. 

Regards,
Harald Portig

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From: moschleg@erols.com                                04-Dec-99 15:04:28
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:19
Subj: Re: os2 warp recomendation?

From: Mark Schlegel <moschleg@erols.com>

Charles Christacopoulos wrote:
> 
> claus littmann wrote:
> >
> > i presently have warp3 installed on two different computers, and would
> > appreciate some feedback on who has used it and has upgraded to warp4,
> >
> > i unfortunately have to use software compatible with my clients which
> > limits me to win95/98 and ms office suite.  has there been anyway to run
> > msoffice under os/2?
> >
> > thanks for any comments and suggestions
> >
> > c.l.
> 
> Office 2 (win 16 runs under OS/2 Ver3 or Warp)  Office 95 and higher
> does not run on any OS/2 version.
> 
> Charles

Yeah, but to be compliant with his clients, maybe all he needs is
compatibility with their .doc and .xls file *formats* (Word and Excel),
couldn't StarOffice for OS/2 handle doc and xls files?

see: http://www.sun.com/products/staroffice/filters.html

Mark

> --
> Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
> Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
> Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
> http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
> Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
> too)

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From: vlad@mail.netwave.de                              04-Dec-99 20:09:14
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 16:31:19
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: vlad@mail.netwave.de (Vlad Berditchevskiy)

Hello John!

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:27:39, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) 
wrote:

> : > A simple question to this distinguished company - what's the best OS2
> : > word processor.
> : TeX. Everything else sucks.
> 
> 	While I do plan on learning TeX one of these days, it is not 
> going to be everyones cup of tea. 

It's not a secret: the majority always chooses the worst solution. :-) 
(example: Win <-> OS/2).

> The main problem with it is that it 
> isn't like most word processors.  Perhaps the GUI one's have most people 
> brainwashed, but when I do work with stuff like StarOffice, Microsoft 
> Word, Describe, WordPerfect, Word Pro, etc.  It is all familiar to me.  
> Only thing that changes is certain key strokes, but since most of the 
> stuff can be accessed by mouse, it sort of makes that a moot point.

Those programs are easy to use only if you make simple things. I think, 
creating of, for instance, complex math expressions or table of contents
is done much easier with TeX.

> 	One thing I do like about TeX is that it is as universal as it 
> can possibly be.  I'm not sure of any platform that doesn't have a 
> implementation of it somewhere.

Other advantages of TeX are its stability (it's probably the most stable
program in the world!) and layout quality (far better than of any other 
(OS/2) text processor). If you mostly write short texts, e. g. standard 
letters, programs like StarOffice are probably a better solution, but if
you have to layout books or brochures, nothing can beat TeX.

-- 
cul8r_______________________________________________________________
                                        e-mail: vlad@mail.netwave.de
\  /                                            vlad@tzi.org
 \/lad                                  fido:   2:2426/3190.26

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From: platipus1959@my-deja.com                          04-Dec-99 20:25:09
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:21
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: platipus1959@my-deja.com

In article
<F7nR4oXf0fdd092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net
>,
  raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net wrote:
> Nick Knight <nick@secant.com> wrote:
>
> (schnip)
>
> >Of course, most of the fun in this is
gone, as is the other guy, for all
> >practical purposes.
> >
> >Nick
>
> Now, now, Nick, don't you think it's a
bit early to start
> throwing stones?  That's what they used
to say that about
> you, remember... I believe they're
working on it.
>

Does posting rediculously vague information
make you feel clever?  You don't seem
clever from this angle.  Ooops!  Did I say
that? :)

First, "throwing stones"?  I simply stated
that I miss the competitiveness I felt when
specific others were actively improving
their product.  And they aren't at this
time, AFAICT.  Did you miss that, or was it
simply more convenient to twist it a
little?

I don't recall anyone ever using this tired
old cliche (even when using it correctly)
when referring to me.  So, no, I guess I
don't "remember".  Please refresh my
memory, and resolve the convenient "they"
with a name, please, for my records.

Also, who's working on what?  I'd like to
update my information.  If the stuff I read
here in these very newsgroups was
inaccurate, or I misunderstood it, I think
it important for me to get the straight
skinny.  Don't you?  Please fill me in!

> Btw, for anyone who's interested in

I'm not interested in subscribing to other
products' mailing lists.  I have plenty to
do participating in the
it's-always-been-very-active MR/2 list.  I
normally don't advertise this in
newsgroups, most MR/2 users know how to
find it.  In fact, it's one of the options
available from the MR/2 menu system.  But,
just in case, you can get to the web-based
mailing list subscription manager at:

    http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm

The link to the subscription manager is
easily accessible from the table of
contents at the top of this page.  This is
surely the easiest way to subscribe.  Short
of that, a simple message to
mr2ice.list@secant.com with a subject of
SUBSCRIBE will get you on the list.

List discussions center on the email
client, but the integrated newsreader
(perpetual beta) is also openly discussed.
I recently started a thread on the Win32
prototype I released and this may require a
separate list, eventually, depending on
volume.  We'll see.

There's also the Ask-The-Experts(tm) list
for those that want their questions
answered without the hassle of a full
subscription.  Also available via MR/2 menu
and/or the web page, above.

Pardon me for posting via Dejanews, but my
ISP's newsserver simply refused to cough up
the text for this particular article.  I
keep getting "503 - Program error" from
their newsserver.  Let's see if this works.

Nick Knight
MR/2 ICE Author
MR/2 - Internet Email (and News) Client for
OS/2
http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: dmckenn@attglobal.net                             04-Dec-99 15:54:01
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:21
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?

From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@attglobal.net>

On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 05:06:28 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:

>try re-installing 2.31, but this time make sure there are no duplicate copies
>of pmgax64.dll laying around (run dir /s pmgax64.dll from c:\) - also if
you're
>using dialog enhancer, uninstall it before applying 2.31 then re-apply it
after
>its installed.  
>
 dink,

    Thanks... the Dialog Enhancer was the problem. After removing it, I
installed version 2.36 of the Matrox drivers and they work fine now. That's
one thing about DE that makes it seem more complicated than neccesary -
having to remember everything it changes.

   No joy with RealPlayer though.. I still get GPFs in USER.EXE :>(

Dave McKenna


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From: nick@secant.com                                   04-Dec-99 15:56:22
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:21
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: Nick Knight <nick@secant.com>

In <82btbb$cic$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 12/04/99 
   at 08:25 PM, platipus1959@my-deja.com said:

>Pardon me for posting via Dejanews, but my
>ISP's newsserver simply refused to cough up
>the text for this particular article.  I
>keep getting "503 - Program error" from
>their newsserver.  Let's see if this works.

Ick!  And seeing how ugly the formatting is once posted, I don't think
I'll try this again.  And they chose to replace my real email with their
own.  I think I'll try a different approach next time, even if I have to
hand-edit the headers from another post in the thread.

Nick
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nick Knight  <nick@secant.com>       http://nick.secant.com
Senior Software Engineer
Secant Technologies, Inc.             http://www.secant.com
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    04-Dec-99 21:19:27
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:21
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Christian Hennecke (christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de) wrote:

: Ever tried LyX for XFree86/OS2? It's a GUI for LaTeX that can do quite a
: couple of things. It's a bit tricky to install if you want support for
: Ghostscript, xdvi etc., but the package contains a good README.

	I never liked it much.  The interface I found was really clunky.


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    04-Dec-99 21:25:13
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:21
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Vlad Berditchevskiy (vlad@mail.netwave.de) wrote:

: > isn't like most word processors.  Perhaps the GUI one's have most people 
: > brainwashed, but when I do work with stuff like StarOffice, Microsoft 
: > Word, Describe, WordPerfect, Word Pro, etc.  It is all familiar to me.  
: > Only thing that changes is certain key strokes, but since most of the 
: > stuff can be accessed by mouse, it sort of makes that a moot point.

: Those programs are easy to use only if you make simple things. I think, 
: creating of, for instance, complex math expressions or table of contents
: is done much easier with TeX.

	I still dunno.  I mean even as far back as WordPerfect 5.1, it 
had an equation editor and ToC ability and that was circa 1989.

: Other advantages of TeX are its stability (it's probably the most stable
: program in the world!) and layout quality (far better than of any other 
: (OS/2) text processor). If you mostly write short texts, e. g. standard 
: letters, programs like StarOffice are probably a better solution, but if
: you have to layout books or brochures, nothing can beat TeX.

	StarOffice for a letter?  You must be joking.  I think the thing 
is to find a medium here when it comes to word processors.  Anything 
beyond the point of Describe 5, Word 6, WordPerfect 5x/6x is simply over 
kill and very bloated.

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    04-Dec-99 21:46:11
  To: All                                               04-Dec-99 19:48:21
Subj: Re: chkdsk on WSeB takes a long time

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:20:02, Tim Stephen@CIOS.ORG (Tim Stephen) wrote:

> Where ought one to watch for the appearance of a fixed version of the
> 2940U2W driver?

Under a blue moon, if Adaptec's past performance is anything to go by.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               04-Dec-99 08:54:23
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: letoured@nospam.net

>The best text editor for writers, period, is XyWrite.

That really depends upon what one is writing!


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 04-Dec-99 18:49:10
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

platipus1959@my-deja.com wrote:

>In article
><F7nR4oXf0fdd092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net
>>,
>  raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net wrote:
>> Nick Knight <nick@secant.com> wrote:
>>
>> (schnip)
>>
>> >Of course, most of the fun in this is
>gone, as is the other guy, for all
>> >practical purposes.
>> >
>> >Nick
>>
>> Now, now, Nick, don't you think it's a
>bit early to start
>> throwing stones?  That's what they used
>to say that about
>> you, remember... I believe they're
>working on it.
>>
>
>Does posting rediculously vague information
>make you feel clever?  You don't seem
>clever from this angle.  Ooops!  Did I say
>that? :)
>
>
>First, "throwing stones"?  I simply stated
>that I miss the competitiveness I felt when
>specific others were actively improving
>their product.  And they aren't at this
>time, AFAICT.  Did you miss that, or was it
>simply more convenient to twist it a
>little?

Nick, it was meant as the mildest of rebukes, honestly.  In
any case, to my mind "the other guy" was always PMMail, but
maybe you were referring to PostRoad, but I didn't/don't
want to start any kind of a fuss.

>I don't recall anyone ever using this tired
>old cliche (even when using it correctly)
>when referring to me.  So, no, I guess I
>don't "remember".  Please refresh my
>memory, and resolve the convenient "they"
>with a name, please, for my records.

It doesn't matter, really.  I've always respected you and
the work you've done, and between MR/2 and PMM was always
just a matter of individual preferences.  I've always
appreciated that you've stayed with OS/2, and I know you get
the highest marks from users.

>Also, who's working on what?  I'd like to
>update my information.  If the stuff I read
>here in these very newsgroups was
>inaccurate, or I misunderstood it, I think
>it important for me to get the straight
>skinny.  Don't you?  Please fill me in!

Well, Bob & Icon sold their stuff to Blueprint Software
Works (http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/) who released
a new version of PMM/2 about a month or two ago.  The jury
is still out, but AFAIK they monitor the PMMail list for
bugs/feature requests with the help of Trevor Smith, of
erstwhile Haligonian repute.

>
>> Btw, for anyone who's interested in
>
>I'm not interested in subscribing to other
>products' mailing lists.  

Again, I'm sorry if I seemed to be suggesting you'd want to,
I really wasn't -- I had meant to post that note earlier to
the original poster, and generally for users of PMM/2.

>I have plenty to
>do participating in the
>it's-always-been-very-active MR/2 list.  I
>normally don't advertise this in
>newsgroups, most MR/2 users know how to
>find it.  In fact, it's one of the options
>available from the MR/2 menu system.  But,
>just in case, you can get to the web-based
>mailing list subscription manager at:
>
>    http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm
>
>The link to the subscription manager is
>easily accessible from the table of
>contents at the top of this page.  This is
>surely the easiest way to subscribe.  Short
>of that, a simple message to
>mr2ice.list@secant.com with a subject of
>SUBSCRIBE will get you on the list.
>
>List discussions center on the email
>client, but the integrated newsreader
>(perpetual beta) is also openly discussed.
>I recently started a thread on the Win32
>prototype I released and this may require a
>separate list, eventually, depending on
>volume.  We'll see.
>
>There's also the Ask-The-Experts(tm) list
>for those that want their questions
>answered without the hassle of a full
>subscription.  Also available via MR/2 menu
>and/or the web page, above.
>
>Pardon me for posting via Dejanews, but my
>ISP's newsserver simply refused to cough up
>the text for this particular article.  I
>keep getting "503 - Program error" from
>their newsserver.  Let's see if this works.

(THe funny format has happened to me when I put hard returns
in the Deja fill-in.)

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        05-Dec-99 01:28:00
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: Re: www.lotus.com

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <38446092.9DA25F5C@attglobal.net>, Alon Stewart <abstewa@attglobal.net>
writes:
>It must be something in your browser settings, I have NS 4.61 and OS/2 and I
can access
>both sites you mentioned with no problem on 28.8 modem.  I have seen very few 
sites
>that I can not get, unless they have weird plugins required.

It looks like the problem was completely beyond my control, since I am no
longer
having the same problems. I have not changed any settings, but all of a sudden 

I have no problems connecting to Lotus or even Palm whose home page I have
never been able to load before. Maybe my ISP has sorted out some problem....

--
John

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From: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au                          05-Dec-99 01:27:12
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:15
Subj: Re: Epson Stylus Color 740 or 750

From: bruce@os2box.omen.com.au

Go for th IBM omni drivers for sure


In <3849206E.8FD5FCE0@village.uunet.be>, Peter Wuyts
<peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be> writes:
>Anyone some experience with those printers and OS/2 ?
>Which driver is the best : IBM's omni-driver or Epson's omni-driver?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Peter Wuyts
>peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be
>
>

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               04-Dec-99 21:35:28
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Netscape 4.61 & Warp 3

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

-
question about Netscape 4.61. Does it work under Warp 3?
-


Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509


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From: fmaskus@spamcop.net                               04-Dec-99 20:06:29
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: Epson Stylus Color 740 or 750

From: Frank <fmaskus@spamcop.net>

bruce@os2box.omen.com.au wrote:
> 
> Go for th IBM omni drivers for sure
>

I have a Epson 800 and a 700 Photo printer, and use the IBM drivers...
There also are drivers that came out of Europe (Germany?) that seem to
do good...

Frank.

 
> In <3849206E.8FD5FCE0@village.uunet.be>, Peter Wuyts
<peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be> writes:
> >Anyone some experience with those printers and OS/2 ?
> >Which driver is the best : IBM's omni-driver or Epson's omni-driver?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Peter Wuyts
> >peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be
> >
> >

-- 
*        Frank Maskus  Portland, Oregon           *
*   Homepage: http://www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/   *
*                                                 *
*        An oxymoron: Knowledgeable AOLers        *

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From: wdlkhl@attglobal.net                              04-Dec-99 21:50:19
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: No sound with Comm461 drag/drop

From: Wm D Loughman <wdlkhl@attglobal.net>

Not only no sound with 'mail alert', but ALSO no sounds with drag'n'drop
of messages into folders.  I read about the line to add to refs.js for
'mail alert' sound: - is there something similar for drag'n'drop??

Where are the refs.js entries documented, please?  TIA

Warp-4 FP-6 Java118, etc.


WD "Bill" Loughman       "The problem with the gene pool: no lifeguard."
Berkeley, California  USA
wdlkhl@attglobal.net

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From: dink@dontspamme.com                               05-Dec-99 01:00:07
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 03:19:16
Subj: Re: Real Audio 5 and Matrox Drivers?

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>

On Sat, 04 Dec 1999 15:54:03 -0500 (EST), David McKenna wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 05:06:28 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:
>
>>try re-installing 2.31, but this time make sure there are no duplicate
copies
>>of pmgax64.dll laying around (run dir /s pmgax64.dll from c:\) - also if
you're
>>using dialog enhancer, uninstall it before applying 2.31 then re-apply it
after
>>its installed.  
>>
> dink,
>
>    Thanks... the Dialog Enhancer was the problem. After removing it, I
>installed version 2.36 of the Matrox drivers and they work fine now. That's
>one thing about DE that makes it seem more complicated than neccesary -
>having to remember everything it changes.
>
>   No joy with RealPlayer though.. I still get GPFs in USER.EXE :>(

Bummer..  =(  maybe try running it fullscreen?  its worth a shot.
.. at least the driver problem got taken care of! =)


- dink ( http://dink.org )





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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     05-Dec-99 07:17:27
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 05:18:05
Subj: Re: No sound with Comm461 drag/drop

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Wm D Loughman wrote:

> Where are the refs.js entries documented, please?  TIA

The file is prefs.js, not refs.js, and the documentation can be
found partially in the Help->Release Notes... and the rest on
the Netscape web site.

I don't know of any sound when dropping items into folders.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: junk@bbs.darktech.org                             05-Dec-99 03:08:18
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 05:18:05
Subj: Re: Odin Application Database

From: "sl" <junk@bbs.darktech.org>

	Please add a link to the Application Database off
http://www.netlabs.org/odin..

Gili


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From: Super_Copy@yahoo.com                              05-Dec-99 09:24:27
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:07
Subj: Shareware: Super Copy for DOS v1.00

From: Super_Copy@yahoo.com (Super Copy)

The shareware application described below is now available for download at
        http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/win3/util/scdos100.zip/
        ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/fileutil/scdos100.zip
and all mirrors thereof. For more download sites, please search for the
string "scdos100" at any major web search engine.
The shareware version is fully-functional, with no "nagging" displays or
prompts whatsoever. A MUST-HAVE for anyone who uses removable media in
his/her PC!
Commercial versions for Win32 and OS/2 are available! See "readme.txt"
for details.
===============================================================================
=
Description

"Super Copy" is a command-line utility for copying and backing up files. It is
meant to replace the functionality of the "copy" and "xcopy" commands
provided by DOS and other more advanced operating systems. Furthermore
"Super Copy" provides the special capability to selectively copy files
from one removable disk (or any comparable medium) to another even if you
only have a single disk drive to operate such media. We call this feature
"one-drive selective copy".

Advantages

"Super Copy" has the following functional advantages over competing utilities:

1) Optimized memory usage: can use all available memory under DOS.
Runs in 80386 protected mode, taking advantage of the greater memory
capabilities of modern CPUs. "Super Copy" is capable of addressing up
to 4 GigaBytes of memory, subject to the limitations of the operating system.

2) OS compatibility: runs in compatibility modem under Windows (3.1,
4.0 "Windows 95", 4.1 "Windows 98"), Windows NT and OS/2.
"Super Copy" can even use virtual memory under these operating systems.

3) Conveniently copy files or entire directory structures between removable
disks with a minimum amount of disk swapping. You will not be bothered
by a myriad of prompts asking you:
        "Please insert source disk"
        "Please insert destination disk"
over and over. You will not have to copy an entire disk when all you
want to do is copy one or two files from one disk to another.

4) A simple command-line syntax, similar to the "xcopy.exe" command. If
you already know how to use "xcopy", learning to use "Super Copy"should be
almost instantaneous. Another advantage of a similar syntax is that you
can call "Super Copy" from within your existing batch files with aminimal
amount of modifications.

5) Tested for compatibility with storage products from majormanufacturers:
        "Zip drive" from IOMega Corp.
        "SyJet" from SyQuest Corp.
just to name a few.
This utility relies on the operating system to support various connections
and transport protocols for storage devices, and therefore is compatible with
        IDE (EIDE, ATA, UDMA)
        SCSI (Fast-SCSI, Ultra-SCSI, Wide-SCSI)
and more.

6) Y2K compliant. "Super Copy" will discern and compare properly file
dates at 1 January 2000 and beyond.

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    05-Dec-99 05:41:15
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:07
Subj: can't get rsj to behave (still)

From: nemo@union.edu

Greetings!

I'm about to post this to the rsj newsgroup but I thought I'd ask here
also.

I have a Ricoh cdrw as the _only_ cd-drive in my system (for now); it is
running off of scsi id #2 off of a Tekram scsi adaptor. 

I have the follow setup in config.sys:

BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
[...]
DEVICE=f:\CDWFS\RSJSCSI.SYS
IFS=f:\CDWFS\CDWFS.IFS
RUN=f:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "h:/TEMP" -c20000 -b2048 -t2 -i3 -s4 rem
BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT

(LOCKCDR.FLT is remmed out because otherwise there's no access to the
cdrw, OS/2 occupies it.)

If I boot to Win95, I can easily run EZ-CD and burn a cd, and RSJ can
access that cd and read it. However, I cannot burn the CD in RSJ which
coughs and says that the CD is 'write-protected'. For instance, I cannot
'copy' to the cd or 'format' the cd. 

To attach the cdrw (K:) I use:

cdattach z: -d k:

This creates the appropriate icon in the 'Drives' folder. 

I also can't get cdrecord/2 to run but that's a different story. I paid
hard cash for rsj.

There may be some hardware issues between rsj and the tekram. I did
install the most recent rsj build (but I haven't flashed the tekram). I'm
pretty sure my scsi chain is set up right. Still, the fact I get trouble
from cdrecord/2 also raises suspicions. Still, Win95 doesn't seem to have
a problem.

Ok, that's the gist. I appreciate any help.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: Ted@see.my.sig                                    04-Dec-99 20:32:11
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:07
Subj: Re: MR/2 ICE v2.0 Released

From: Ted@see.my.sig (No spam, please)

On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:18:48 -0500, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

>Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> said:
>>> After many enhancements and bug fixes, Version 2.0 of MR/2 ICE has been
>>> released.  
>
>>And a very fine product it is.
>
>Including the newsreader.

What sort of improvements have been made to the news reader since
1.60? Does it, for example, support threads? Nick's page doesn't have
much information about the news reader.

-----------------------------------------------------------
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 Visit my Virtual Light Table: http://tmvlt.cjb.net
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From: cocke@catherders.com                              05-Dec-99 06:13:25
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:07
Subj: Re: chkdsk on WSeB takes a long time

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>

As I've been using a 2940U2W controller on Warp 4 and then on WSeB for 
quite a while now, perhaps you could clue me - what's broken?  Works 
fine here!




On 4 Dec 1999 14:20:02 GMT, Tim Stephen wrote:

>Thanks very much for the info.  Unfortunately it's a 2940U2W.
>Perhaps I'll try Trevor's suggestion re: small boot partition.
>
>Where ought one to watch for the appearance of a fixed version of the
>2940U2W driver?
>
>Tim
>

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    Please note:  My Email and web page addresses are changing in January
2000.
                     The new email address is cocke@catherders.com   
                      The web page is at http://www.catherders.com

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      05-Dec-99 00:24:17
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 10:37:07
Subj: Re: Epson Stylus Color 740 or 750

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <3849206E.8FD5FCE0@village.uunet.be>, Peter Wuyts
<peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be> writes:

>Anyone some experience with those printers and OS/2 ?
>Which driver is the best : IBM's omni-driver or Epson's omni-driver?

Depends on what you're doing.  In my experience, text output is 
virtually identical but the OMNI driver is about 10 times faster 
than the epson.de driver.  Graphics, OTOH, are noticably better 
with the epson.de driver and may be worth the extra processing 
time if you need the highest quality output.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: sctvguy@yahoo.com                                 05-Dec-99 09:07:28
  To: "edare"@SPAMix.netcom.com (remove..               05-Dec-99 14:26:02
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61

To: Dilbert Firestorm <"edare"@SPAMix.netcom.com (remove SPAM)>
From: Bob Grimes <sctvguy@yahoo.com>


Dilbert Firestorm wrote:
> 
> Does Netscape 4.61 work under Warp 3?
> 
> Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
I am using it now to post this message.  Warp Connect Blue, FP42.  Works
like a charm!

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From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com                      05-Dec-99 14:30:01
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 14:26:02
Subj: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock)

Currently I have an Adaptec 1520 SCSI host adpater in my 5 
year old pc. The pc has ISA slots
and 52 Mb of memory, running an AMD 5/133 overdrive chip.
 
Is there a better host adapter card available that would 
provide any performance boost in
this system?

Dana

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From: jim.danvers@mindex.com                            05-Dec-99 10:48:22
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?

From: Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>

Folks...

We're talking Warp v4 (client) right?  I just installed it yesterday on a
machine
@work, and managed to get the minimum (?) FP5 installed on it so that I could
get
netscape communicator (4.61) installed.  I work in an NT environment and am
pretty
familiar with all of the stupid service packs and subsequent hot fixes that
need to
be installed on it from time to time - and typically having the latest is
suggested
(after waiting for others to blow up thier systems first of course).

Question(s):  The install on warp on this machine @work is purely for learning 
/
getting experience with the OS and possibly for implementing it for my own use 
@home
- is there a "need" to have a later fixpack applied other than 5?  Is this
synonymous
with saying that NT1 SP1 is adequate and to just leave it @that?  (NOT!)  Also 
- NT
service packs contain all of the fixes from earlier incarnations - in other
words I
can install an NT box and then just go straight to SP5 if I want to - I don't
have to
apply 2-4 in order first.  Does this hold true with Warp?

Thanks for the info folks....

-=- J.D. -=-

"David T. Johnson" wrote:

> josco wrote:
> >
> > http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/fix.html
> > http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey/
> > (links above document how I came to this web page below)
> >
> > http://www.os2voice.org/ez-reference/fixpak.html I followed the directions
> > for an install off my hard drive, not floppy disks which takes too long
> > while this went quickly.  It was easy. I installed FP11.
> >
> > The fixpack files came from this ftp site.
> >
ftp://service.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4warp/english-us/xr_m011/

> >
> > My advice is to be sure to at least run chkdsk prior to the install to be
> > sure not to have any disk errors.  I have my system boot with the HPFS
> > automatically checking my drives.  It seems easier than booting off the
> > floppies and running chkdsk.  You can modify the CONFIG.SYS file line
> > where the cache is installed. You add '+' signs in front of all cached
> > disks i.e. +c+d+e
> >
> > OS/2 Help will give you the correct symantics -- search help for "cache"
> > to see the exact syntax.  "Help cache"
> >
> > After the system is okay and running you can edit and remove the forced
> > chkdsk if that slows down boot time.
>
> I suggest installing fixpack 12 rather than fixpack 11.  Fixpack 11 had
> a problem with HPFS and required downleveling to fixpack 10 HPFS files
> (the fix was on Hobbes.)  I download the floppy files and make the
> floppyies with loaddskf.exe and then install them with the corrective
> service tool from an OS/2 window.  It's a little more trouble to make
> floppies than doing the RSU update but also a little more secure, imo.
>
> >
> > -- joseph
> >
> > On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Rime Saad wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > How do I install fixpack 11 ?  I downloaded the fixpack from the IBM FTP
> > > site, and the file had the extention ".sh".  I do not know how to
> > > install such a file
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >

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From: Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net                 05-Dec-99 15:38:16
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Re: can't get rsj to behave (still)

From: "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net>

On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 05:41:31 -0500, nemo@union.edu wrote:

>Greetings!
>
>I'm about to post this to the rsj newsgroup but I thought I'd ask here
>also.
>
>I have a Ricoh cdrw as the _only_ cd-drive in my system (for now); it is
>running off of scsi id #2 off of a Tekram scsi adaptor. 
>
>I have the follow setup in config.sys:
>
>BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
>[...]
>DEVICE=f:\CDWFS\RSJSCSI.SYS
>IFS=f:\CDWFS\CDWFS.IFS
>RUN=f:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "h:/TEMP" -c20000 -b2048 -t2 -i3 -s4 rem
>BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT
>
>(LOCKCDR.FLT is remmed out because otherwise there's no access to the
>cdrw, OS/2 occupies it.)

You lost me here.  You mean you can't read 'normal' CDs otherwise?  You
should be able to after 'attaching' the drive.
What Richo are you using?  My Richo MP6002S seems fine. (my *old* Mitsumi 1x
can't read CDRs well)
>
>To attach the cdrw (K:) I use:
>
>cdattach z: -d k:

I don't use the -d switch. (whats that for anyway? <grin>)


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From: nick@secant.com                                   05-Dec-99 11:20:28
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Re: MR/2 ICE v2.0 Released

From: Nick Knight <nick@secant.com>

In <38497a17.534914@news.access1.net>, on 12/04/99 
   at 08:32 PM, Ted@see.my.sig (No spam, please) said:

>What sort of improvements have been made to the news reader since 1.60?
>Does it, for example, support threads? Nick's page doesn't have much
>information about the news reader.

The upgrade to v2.0 was targetted at the email portion only.  IOW, while
the news engine did benefit from bug fixes and the performance
enhancements, I didn't add any new functionality to the newsreader.  I've
got plenty of things to do, but they haven't been done yet.

What's turned out to be the largest problem with the newsreader is the
database library.  I chose a well-known, highly-touted commercial library
and paid a non-trivial price for it.  It works very well in a
single-threaded environment where nothing ever goes wrong.  Throw it in a
multithreaded online app where anything can happen, and it's unpredictable
and unstable.  I'll spare you all of my technical moaning about this
package; I've been through it before in the mailing lists.  The bottom
line?  The database library, which MR/2 now uses ONLY to *index* data,
sucks.  And, while I have the source code for it, I've deemed it
unmaintainable.  It's ugly.

I have some other code I want to try once the hubbub with the v2.0 release
simmers down some.  The "new" code is much more simple and easy to
maintain, and I'm expecting that I can *EASILY* get the same reliability
from it that we're seeing now (read: very little! :).  And from there,
maintaining it will be easier.

That's not to say that the newsreader in v2.0 isn't better than what was
in v1.60.  It's just not specific to news ... only stuff inherited from
the integrated email client (plus a couple of small news-specific bug
fixes)

Nick
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nick Knight  <nick@secant.com>       http://nick.secant.com
Senior Software Engineer
Secant Technologies, Inc.             http://www.secant.com
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From: nick@secant.com                                   05-Dec-99 16:44:07
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: nick@secant.com

In article <AiaS4oXf0bkR092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
  raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net wrote:

> Well, Bob & Icon sold their stuff to Blueprint Software
> Works

Exactly.  So, "the other guys" are gone.  I'm used to sparring
with particular programmers through code.  Those programmers
have gone away.  I doubt the challenge will be matched again.
But I shouldn't have had to explain this.

And again, it appears MR/2 handling of large folders has jumped
way ahead of the other guys (practical) capabilities.  And
again, much of the fun in touting this is missing, as are the
other guys.

No, PRM never seemed a challenge to me.  It had a couple of
neat features, but it just didn't seem to ever get my goat.

My ISP's news server (I get my news from PSI net) will not give
me any of your posts at all.  I only have problems with a very
few posts; dunno if it's something to do with att.net or nor.
I'll try and find some similarities.  These "503 - program
error" messages just started, they seem to be new.  Perhaps the
newsserver index is screwed up.  I'll write them.

Nick
MR/2 ICE Author
http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: wnmccaw@bmi.net                                   05-Dec-99 08:58:04
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Aldus Pagemaker 3.0: any comments?

From: "W.N.(Bill) McCaw" <wnmccaw@bmi.net>

In casting about for a good desktop publishing program, I see Aldus
Pagemaker 3.0 offered from time to time on EBAY.  They usually go for
$20-30.  

Is this a pretty competent program, similar to Pagemaker 6.0 under Win
95?

Does it produce pagemaker files that can be accepted by the newer
Windows programs?  

I make up copy for programs for a choral group, and can do pretty well
with Word Pro, but it would be so much easier if the program had the
capacity to make and move frames in tiny increments to balance the look
of the page and so forth. 

I would appreciate any users comments.  One of the big holes in OS2 is
in the Desktop publishing area. 
-- 
Cheers! W.N.(Bill) McCaw

"When is doubt, Act like a pro!!"

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      05-Dec-99 12:20:11
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 14:26:03
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 & Warp 3

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <3849dd9d-nukewaste@wwivbbs.org>, "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org> 
writes:

>question about Netscape 4.61. Does it work under Warp 3?

Answer: yes. 

IIRC, you should have at least FP32 installed to be able to use 
Java v1.1.8, though.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Dec-99 19:56:09
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:48:44, Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com> 
wrote:

> Folks...
>  
> We're talking Warp v4 (client) right?  I just installed it yesterday on a
machine
> @work, and managed to get the minimum (?) FP5 installed on it so that I
could get
> netscape communicator (4.61) installed.  I work in an NT environment and am
pretty
> familiar with all of the stupid service packs and subsequent hot fixes that
need to
> be installed on it from time to time - and typically having the latest is
suggested
> (after waiting for others to blow up thier systems first of course).
>  
> Question(s):  The install on warp on this machine @work is purely for
learning /
> getting experience with the OS and possibly for implementing it for my own
use @home
> - is there a "need" to have a later fixpack applied other than 5?  Is this
synonymous
> with saying that NT1 SP1 is adequate and to just leave it @that?  (NOT!) 
Also - NT
> service packs contain all of the fixes from earlier incarnations - in other
words I
> can install an NT box and then just go straight to SP5 if I want to - I
don't have to
> apply 2-4 in order first.  Does this hold true with Warp?
>  
> Thanks for the info folks....
>  
> -=- J.D. -=-
> 

First, welcome to the world of OS/2.

The OS/2 fix packs are cumulative (the latest, contains all of the 
fixes, which may include going back to a lower level file, in some 
cases) up to FP11, when IBM split out a lot of hardware device drivers
into 
their own fix pack. Not ALL hardware drivers are in the DD FP. You 
should check at the Device driver web site, for the latest drivers for
your devices:
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm

You can get the latest Fix Pack (12, at this time), from:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4warp/english-us/
(back up a few directories for different languages, or for warp3), and
you can get the Device Driver Fix Pack (1, at this time), from:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/

This site only keeps certain versions of the fix packs, and you cannot
get them all from there (I think they keep FP5, because that was the 
first Y2K version, the latest, and the latest-1). If you want to try 
some other version, you can get them from HOBBES:
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/

Many people find that there are problems with various fix packs, and 
that one will work better than others, for their specific machine, and
applications. Personally, I found FP9 to be the most stable, but FP12 
is close, as long as you get a fixed version of the PMMerge.DLL file 
(available as PMR00052.ZIP, from HOBBES). I had terrible problems with
FP5 (or was it 6???).

You may, also, want to check out various alternative FP installation 
methods. If you go to the OS/2 SuperSite:
http://www.os2ss.com/
and follow the New User links, you will find a LOT of good information
about OS/2, including different ways to go about installing fix packs.

Finally, the Golden Rule of OS/2 fix packs, is DON'T fix pack it if 
you don't have a problem! Of course Y2K is going to be a "problem" 
shortly.

Other good OS/2 web sites include:
http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
http://www.leo.org/archiv/software/os2/index_grouped.html
http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7567/software/english/ind
ex.html
http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/
http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html
http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html
ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/
http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html
http://www.musthave.com/
http://www.pmview.com/
http://www.indelible-blue.com/
http://www.RPFSoftware.com/
http://www.kellergroup.com/
http://www.emtec.com/
http://www.cds-inc.com/

(I have no affiliation with any of them, other than as a user of their
products, or information).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Dec-99 19:56:01
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Epson Stylus Color 740 or 750

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:08:46, Peter Wuyts 
<peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be> wrote:

> Anyone some experience with those printers and OS/2 ?
> Which driver is the best : IBM's omni-driver or Epson's omni-driver?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter Wuyts
> peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be
> 

I don't know, for sure, about the 740, or 750 (I have a Stylus Color 
600, and use the EPOMNI driver with great results), but, you CAN 
install both drivers, at the same time, then select the one that  
works best for what you are doing. Just install one, then install the 
other (be sure to do all of the booting in between, and give them 
different names, of course). You will have two printers defined, 
pointing to the same physical printer, and you can select the one you 
want to use. After a few experiments, I am sure you will pick one that
works "best", most of the time, and you can make that one the default 
printer. You could then remove the other one, or just leave it 
available in case you want to use it.

There was a short period of time when I had OMNI, EPOMNI, and the beta
Geman driver, all pointing to my printer. I got rid of the beta 
driver, almost immediately, and the OMNI driver a couple of months 
later. I have had no reason to want to use either since I got EPOMNI.

YMMV. Good luck...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Dec-99 19:56:05
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 14:30:03, Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana 
Hartsock) wrote:

> Currently I have an Adaptec 1520 SCSI host adpater in my 5 
> year old pc. The pc has ISA slots
> and 52 Mb of memory, running an AMD 5/133 overdrive chip.
>  
> Is there a better host adapter card available that would 
> provide any performance boost in
> this system?
> 
> Dana

Yes, uh NO??? Is it really worth spending a LOT of money for very 
little??? If your PC is 5 years old, I would suggest investing any 
money, you might think you want to spend on it, in a short term 
savings plan, and get a new machine, with all of the new stuff that 
you might want, when you can afford it. PC technology (overall), has 
made tremendous strides in the past couple of years, and it would cost
you as much to make the upgrades to an old machine, than to just go 
out and buy a new one (especially, if you can't build your own, which 
is really not worth the effort, unless you "just want to do it").

To demonstrate what I am talking about (these numbers are "pulled out 
of the air"):
A 5 year old PC, is worth about $200.
A "better" SCSI card is worth about $200.
A 5 year old PC, with the better SCSI card, is worth about $200.
You need a new motherboard, with a faster processor, to make use of 
the faster SCSI card: $400
A 5 year old machine, with the MB, and processor is worth about $400.
Of course, you need a faster CD-ROM drive: $100.
A 5 year old machine, with CD-ROM drive, is worth about $400.
And, your video card is inadequate: $100
Now, the PC is worth $400.
OK, the video card needs a new screen to make it work properly: $200
The PC is now worth $450.
Well, now you need more memory (you, probably need to buy this with 
the MB anyway), 64MB: $200
The PC, is worth $450.
Next, the hard drive is inadequate, so you need a new one (additional,
or replacement): $200
The PC is worth $450.

OK, you have spent $1400 on a $200 PC, that is worth $450. A new PC, 
with all of those things can be bought for about $1600, and the old 
one, can, probably, be sold for about $200. So, for the same money, 
and a LOT less work, you end up with a new machine (probably even 
faster), with all of the parts already matched, so you don't have to 
figure out if one part will work with another, you will have some 
warranty for a while, and you might be able to actually talk to 
someone (other than yourself), if something doesn't work. Two years 
from now, the old machine will be worth $200, the new one should be 
worth about $800.

IMO, building a machine, or even just updating an old one, is NOT 
worth the effort. It just doesn't pay off in the end.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: nemo@union.edu                                    05-Dec-99 14:59:07
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: can't get rsj to behave (still)

From: nemo@union.edu

In <zhqfunexjbeyqargnggarg.fm9y4r0.pminews@news.optonline.net>, on
12/05/99 
   at 03:38 PM, "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net> said:


>You lost me here.  You mean you can't read 'normal' CDs otherwise?  You
>should be able to after 'attaching' the drive.
>What Richo are you using?  My Richo MP6002S seems fine. (my *old* Mitsumi
>1x can't read CDRs well)
>>
>>To attach the cdrw (K:) I use:
>>
>>cdattach z: -d k:

>I don't use the -d switch. (whats that for anyway? <grin>)

I can read the cdrw whether I use rsj or not. If I use rsj via the
cdattach command, I can read cds at drive Z: instead of drive K: 

So that's not a problem.

What I can't do is _write_ anything to the cd. I've got the 'read' part
but not the 'write' part.

I'm not sure of the version of a Ricoh I've gotten, I'll have to pop the
box again and look, but it's a pretty recent device, no older than what
you have.

The '-d' stands for 'dev' or 'device'.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          05-Dec-99 19:52:27
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Aldus Pagemaker 3.0: any comments?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:58:09, "W.N.(Bill) McCaw" <wnmccaw@bmi.net> 
wrote:

> In casting about for a good desktop publishing program, I see Aldus
> Pagemaker 3.0 offered from time to time on EBAY.  They usually go for
> $20-30.  
> 
> Is this a pretty competent program, similar to Pagemaker 6.0 under Win
> 95?

No, if you mean the OS/2 version, it's a 1990 program that is pretty 
backwards and difficult to run as well.


> 
> Does it produce pagemaker files that can be accepted by the newer
> Windows programs?  
> 
> I make up copy for programs for a choral group, and can do pretty well
> with Word Pro, but it would be so much easier if the program had the
> capacity to make and move frames in tiny increments to balance the look
> of the page and so forth. 

DeScribe is excellent in the frames handling area.



-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: dink@dontspamme.com                               05-Dec-99 15:56:10
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: can't get rsj to behave (still)

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>

On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 05:41:31 -0500, nemo@union.edu wrote:

>cdattach z: -d k:

try using CDR: insetad of k:
k goes thru os2's cdfs.ifs, cdr: goes to rsj =)
which is probably why it keeps saying its write protected,
'cause os/2's cdfs doesn't understand rw commands.


- dink ( http://dink.org )






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From: nemo@union.edu                                    05-Dec-99 16:00:07
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: can't get rsj to behave (still)

From: nemo@union.edu

In <qvaxqbagfcnzzrpbz.fmactw0.pminews@ftl.msen.com>, on 12/05/99 
   at 03:56 PM, "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com> said:

>On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 05:41:31 -0500, nemo@union.edu wrote:

>>cdattach z: -d k:

>try using CDR: insetad of k:
>k goes thru os2's cdfs.ifs, cdr: goes to rsj =)
>which is probably why it keeps saying its write protected,
>'cause os/2's cdfs doesn't understand rw commands.


>- dink ( http://dink.org )

I suspect your diagnosis is correct. However, if I run:

cdattach Z: -d CDR:

I get:

"SYS0020: The system cannot find the device specified."

I have LOCKCDR.FLT remmed out. I'll try your suggestion later when I
reboot.

I'm suspecting there's some bug about running the cdrw as the only
cd-player.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: jim.danvers@mindex.com                            05-Dec-99 17:17:23
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?

From: Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>

Doug. Lorne, et all...

Outstanding.  Thanks for the help and info.  The fixpack / device driver fix
packs split
more or lesss clears that one up.  (I was wondering about the "dd" fixes... )

Doug:  What exactly (if ~exactly~ can be defined...) will be "the problem"
with respect to
OS/2?  Are there known issues with it that are going to be more effectual (in
a negative
manner) on an OS/2 platformed box than on an MS based one (any variant of 9x - 
NT)?  Known
issues in a ~positive~ manner?

I'm planning on installing the Star Office app suite on the box tommorow, and
then I would
like to look into a backup solution as well as the box has an adaptec scsi
host controller
on it (its a compaq deskpro 6000).  I have access to an external HP 4mm dat
drive that I
would like to put back into service - I'm tentativly looking at something
called "Back
Again/2000" - should I just leave the box @FP5 if everything works, or should
I take it up
to what appears to be a stable FP9 and then be done with it?  Also (now that I 
think about
it), should I install my apps/ util / etc... s/w ~first~ and then apply FP9,
or doesn't it
matter?  It's a general rule of thumb in the NT world that if you install s/w
~after~
having installed a service pack or hotfix, to reload said SP or hot fix
afterwards (in case
any files got stomped...).

Last but not least - I would lke to be able to get it to talk co-operatively
with the NT
based network that I have @work - this appears to be some form of real devil
worship black
magic.  I have bookmarked some good looking resources to assist me with
this...  I'm
keeping my fingers crossed.  The box isn't half bad now as it is - I am
getting name
resolution when it comes to pinging machines in the domain, and I can even get 
out onto the
internet through the proxy server which is located across the wan (  :)  ) - I 
don't know
if I will be able to use any printers or map any drives on the NT boxes though 
(I haven't
tried yet).  For what its worth - the PC is running as an "Easy Install" mode, 
(vs. the
"Advanced Install").  I know of the following resources for doing this:

Colin's how to connect OS/2 PCs to NT domains page:
http://www.haynes97.freeserve.co.uk/os2tont.htm

RokNroB's Electrons
http://www.flash.net/~roknrob/sea.htm

Setting Up OS/2 Peer-to-Peer Networking & Coexistence of Warp & NT Machines on 
the MITNet
http://www.mit.edu/activities/os2/peer/WARPPEER.HTM

... do you folks know of other resources for reference?  I ~should~ be able to 
do this with
what I have @present, shouldn't I?

Thanks again very much for the assistance!  ;)

-=- J.D. -=-

Doug Bissett wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:48:44, Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Folks...
> >
> > We're talking Warp v4 (client) right?  I just installed it yesterday on a
machine
> > @work, and managed to get the minimum (?) FP5 installed on it so that I
could get
> > netscape communicator (4.61) installed.  I work in an NT environment and
am pretty
> > familiar with all of the stupid service packs and subsequent hot fixes
that need to
> > be installed on it from time to time - and typically having the latest is
suggested
> > (after waiting for others to blow up thier systems first of course).
> >
> > Question(s):  The install on warp on this machine @work is purely for
learning /
> > getting experience with the OS and possibly for implementing it for my own 
use @home
> > - is there a "need" to have a later fixpack applied other than 5?  Is this 
synonymous
> > with saying that NT1 SP1 is adequate and to just leave it @that?  (NOT!) 
Also - NT
> > service packs contain all of the fixes from earlier incarnations - in
other words I
> > can install an NT box and then just go straight to SP5 if I want to - I
don't have to
> > apply 2-4 in order first.  Does this hold true with Warp?
> >
> > Thanks for the info folks....
> >
> > -=- J.D. -=-
> >
>
> First, welcome to the world of OS/2.
>
> The OS/2 fix packs are cumulative (the latest, contains all of the
> fixes, which may include going back to a lower level file, in some
> cases) up to FP11, when IBM split out a lot of hardware device drivers
> into
> their own fix pack. Not ALL hardware drivers are in the DD FP. You
> should check at the Device driver web site, for the latest drivers for
> your devices:
> http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm
>
> You can get the latest Fix Pack (12, at this time), from:
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4warp/english-us/
> (back up a few directories for different languages, or for warp3), and
> you can get the Device Driver Fix Pack (1, at this time), from:
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/
>
> This site only keeps certain versions of the fix packs, and you cannot
> get them all from there (I think they keep FP5, because that was the
> first Y2K version, the latest, and the latest-1). If you want to try
> some other version, you can get them from HOBBES:
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/
>
> Many people find that there are problems with various fix packs, and
> that one will work better than others, for their specific machine, and
> applications. Personally, I found FP9 to be the most stable, but FP12
> is close, as long as you get a fixed version of the PMMerge.DLL file
> (available as PMR00052.ZIP, from HOBBES). I had terrible problems with
> FP5 (or was it 6???).
>
> You may, also, want to check out various alternative FP installation
> methods. If you go to the OS/2 SuperSite:
> http://www.os2ss.com/
> and follow the New User links, you will find a LOT of good information
> about OS/2, including different ways to go about installing fix packs.
>
> Finally, the Golden Rule of OS/2 fix packs, is DON'T fix pack it if
> you don't have a problem! Of course Y2K is going to be a "problem"
> shortly.
>
> Other good OS/2 web sites include:
> http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
> http://www.leo.org/archiv/software/os2/index_grouped.html
> http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7567/software/english/ind
> ex.html
> http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/
> http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html
> http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html
> ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/
> http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html
> http://www.musthave.com/
> http://www.pmview.com/
> http://www.indelible-blue.com/
> http://www.RPFSoftware.com/
> http://www.kellergroup.com/
> http://www.emtec.com/
> http://www.cds-inc.com/
>
> (I have no affiliation with any of them, other than as a user of their
> products, or information).
>
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

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From: bobmcl@ibm.net                                    04-Dec-99 14:56:09
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net>


uno@40th.com wrote:

> Kim Cheung? (kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com?) wrote (26 Nov 1999
04:00:37
> >"Best"?   DeScribe for sure.   Unfortunily, it's not supported anymore.
>
> Not even sold, and not for the past few years (as I remember it, the guy
> just stopped selling it because of rampant piracy).  I was just over at
> Sundial.  Clearlook has been around for a while.
>
>  http://www.sundialsystems.com/clearlook/index.html
>
> Word 9.0 is pretty good.  Maybe the Thor project can get that going.
>
>  '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
>  Corne1 Huth     http://40th.com/      Bullet database engines/servers

 I still sell DeScribe, legit complete packages.

--
------------------------------------------------------
Bob McLellan
The Little Blue Kiwi
OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland


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From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu                     05-Dec-99 21:13:02
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Odin Application Database

From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu

In article <fyoofqnexgrpubet.fm9dad0.pminews@nntp.generation.net>,
  "sl" <junk@bbs.darktech.org> wrote:

> 	Please add a link to the Application Database off
> http://www.netlabs.org/odin..

But there already is one... Lower-left table, the word "Applications".

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |But on the other hand...|
hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |There's 5 more fingers. |


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From: heloman@my-deja.com                               05-Dec-99 21:22:26
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Netscape 4.61 & DejaNews

From: heloman@my-deja.com

I don't know what's happening but lately when I visit
Deja.com the font size in the Forum page and any of
the other are quite readable. When I go to the
'Messages' page the font size becomes very, very very
small. I tried adjusting the size under
preferences-fonts- and changed to various other font
names ie, courier, new times roman, etc, but this did
not fix the problem. Is this in NS461 or is this
being done by Deja.com? If they continue to get any
smaller I will need to get a magnifier. To the best
of my knowledge I haven't purposely changed any
settings. Any and all help will be greatly
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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            05-Dec-99 21:36:20
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

Doug Bissett gave many good reasons for not spending a significant sum
of money to update an old computer

OTOH, Dana may see a significant performance improvement by replacing
the old ISA SCSI card by a somewhat better bought at the right price. I
have just purchased on eBay (but have not yet received) an Adaptec 1542
SCSI card which, while still an ISA card, also does bus-mastering. I
hope that this (for the extravagant sum of $15.50 including s&h) will
allow me to do other things while a backup to my SCSI tape drive is
running.

Alan

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From: jsjones@selectric.net                             05-Dec-99 22:09:10
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Aldus Pagemaker 3.0: any comments?

From: jsjones@selectric.net

PageMaker 3.0 for Presentation Manager (PMPM) is virtually identical to PM 3.0 

for the other 3 platforms Aldus published it for, Macintosh, Windows 2.11, and 

UNIX (?). And, as in the case of the Mac and Windows versions, there was an 
important (more or less free) update to allow it to work with later OS
versions. 
So, if you can't get the 3.01 update disks, as well, I'd pass on PageMaker for 
PM.

PMPM 3.01 was the best of breed, at the time, and Aldus reflected this added 
value by charging $100 more for it than for other platforms -- sealing its
fate. 
Its release was never mentioned in Aldus Magazine, though it did stay in the 
product/price list for a couple of years. 3.01 can handle PostScript fonts and 

printers; 3.0 couldn't. PMPM can open multiple publications, which Mac and 
Windows couldn't. It does not include color management, like Pantone or
TruMatch, 
though you can mix your own RGB or CMYK. Kerning and leading are not up to 
modern standards, though it may be acceptable for your needs. And, it does not 

handle all fonts well or it may refuse to even list them. But, this varies.

Any PageMaker v3 can open files from the other platforms, but only PageMaker 
version 4 can open v3 files. Version 5 can open v4. Version 6 and 6.5 can open 

4 and 5, but cannot do both cross-platform and cross-version. (That is, you
can't 
open a Windows 6.0 file with Mac 6.5.)

It's not clear why you need to open the files on another platform, however. 
Are you sending your document to a printer? Are you working collaboratively 
with someone on another platform?

No printer will be able to work with PM v3 files from any platform, these
days. 
But, printers generally prefer raw PostScript files or PDFs to application
files. 
You can get the former by printing to file with a PostScript printer driver
from 
most any program and PMPM is no exception. The PostScript file can be
distilled 
into a PDF, if needed. So, using an ancient version of PageMaker is at least 
plausible.

Collaborating on layout is a bad idea, regardless of your tools. If you are
primarily
doing copy and someone else is doing layout, just give that person text files. 
He/she
will spend more time undoing your formatting, styles and such than it takes an 

experienced DTP/graphic designer to do all the work from scratch.

In <384A6F71.20EEF24B@bmi.net>, "W.N.(Bill) McCaw" <wnmccaw@bmi.net> writes:
>In casting about for a good desktop publishing program, I see Aldus
>Pagemaker 3.0 offered from time to time on EBAY.  They usually go for
>$20-30.  
>
>Is this a pretty competent program, similar to Pagemaker 6.0 under Win
>95?
>
>Does it produce pagemaker files that can be accepted by the newer
>Windows programs?  
>
>I make up copy for programs for a choral group, and can do pretty well
>with Word Pro, but it would be so much easier if the program had the
>capacity to make and move frames in tiny increments to balance the look
>of the page and so forth. 
>
>I would appreciate any users comments.  One of the big holes in OS2 is
>in the Desktop publishing area.


selectric.net? think international business machines, instead.

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     05-Dec-99 22:13:03
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: No sound with Comm461 drag/drop

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu wrote:

> > I don't know of any sound when dropping items into folders.
>
> I think he's refeering to the OS/2 system sound event "Begin Drag" and
> "End Drag" not being trigered by Comm/2.

In that case, that sound will not be triggered by drag/drop
from Communicator, since we aren't doing a "real" drop to
the Workplace Shell.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: nenad@my-deja.com                                 05-Dec-99 23:47:15
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 21:17:16
Subj: Communicator newsreader

From: Nenad Milenkovic <nenad@my-deja.com>

Newsreader is not working properly with codepages and encodings.

When I type and select Windows 1250 codepage, it still sends the
message with ISO-8859-2 in the header. Also, when I read the
message (now written with ISO-8859-2 selected) it won't
automatically use that encoding to display the message but
I must select it manually from the menu again... It might
be a problem if I read messages written with different
codepages.

Nenad


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From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com                      06-Dec-99 01:02:01
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 21:17:16
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock)

Doug,
 
You gave me lots of good reasons for not upgrading my SCSI 
card. And Alan made
a case for getting a better card if a good price can be 
found. As you can tell I have
over the years upgraded this system... CPU, hard drive, 40x 
CD-ROM, Ext. SCSI
Orb drive. We just bought a house, so a new system is 
probably a couple years 
away, which makes me sad but that's life.  (g)

If an Adaptec 1540 is my only choice it probably isn't worth
doing. My system still
does what it needs to do, the video sub-sytstem is the real 
drag on this system and
I played around with a couple cards without gaining any real
performance boost in
that area.

I've thought many time of building my own system... but the 
economics of it are not at all compelling. If I am going to 
keep the system a couple more years (assuming it keeps 
running) a SCSI card
that provides a decent performance boost might be 
worthwhile. I'm just not sure there is any such animal out 
there.

Thanks,

Dana

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 19:56:10, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 
(Doug Bissett) wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 14:30:03, Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana 
> Hartsock) wrote:
> 
> > Currently I have an Adaptec 1520 SCSI host adpater in my 5 
> > year old pc. The pc has ISA slots
> > and 52 Mb of memory, running an AMD 5/133 overdrive chip.
> >  
> > Is there a better host adapter card available that would 
> > provide any performance boost in
> > this system?
> > 
> > Dana
> 
> Yes, uh NO??? Is it really worth spending a LOT of money for very 
> little??? If your PC is 5 years old, I would suggest investing any 
> money, you might think you want to spend on it, in a short term 
> savings plan, and get a new machine, with all of the new stuff that 
> you might want, when you can afford it. PC technology (overall), has 
> made tremendous strides in the past couple of years, and it would cost
> you as much to make the upgrades to an old machine, than to just go 
> out and buy a new one (especially, if you can't build your own, which 
> is really not worth the effort, unless you "just want to do it").
> 
> To demonstrate what I am talking about (these numbers are "pulled out 
> of the air"):
> A 5 year old PC, is worth about $200.
> A "better" SCSI card is worth about $200.
> A 5 year old PC, with the better SCSI card, is worth about $200.
> You need a new motherboard, with a faster processor, to make use of 
> the faster SCSI card: $400
> A 5 year old machine, with the MB, and processor is worth about $400.
> Of course, you need a faster CD-ROM drive: $100.
> A 5 year old machine, with CD-ROM drive, is worth about $400.
> And, your video card is inadequate: $100
> Now, the PC is worth $400.
> OK, the video card needs a new screen to make it work properly: $200
> The PC is now worth $450.
> Well, now you need more memory (you, probably need to buy this with 
> the MB anyway), 64MB: $200
> The PC, is worth $450.
> Next, the hard drive is inadequate, so you need a new one (additional,
> or replacement): $200
> The PC is worth $450.
> 
> OK, you have spent $1400 on a $200 PC, that is worth $450. A new PC, 
> with all of those things can be bought for about $1600, and the old 
> one, can, probably, be sold for about $200. So, for the same money, 
> and a LOT less work, you end up with a new machine (probably even 
> faster), with all of the parts already matched, so you don't have to 
> figure out if one part will work with another, you will have some 
> warranty for a while, and you might be able to actually talk to 
> someone (other than yourself), if something doesn't work. Two years 
> from now, the old machine will be worth $200, the new one should be 
> worth about $800.
> 
> IMO, building a machine, or even just updating an old one, is NOT 
> worth the effort. It just doesn't pay off in the end.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************


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From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com                      06-Dec-99 01:06:27
  To: All                                               05-Dec-99 21:17:16
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock)

Alan,

Doesn't the 1542 have problems with > 16Mb due to its bus 
mastering? I seem to recall this from the time I installed 
OS/2 and was looking for a SCSI card. (actually I needed the
SCSI card so I could install OS/2 from CD-ROM) I haven't 
done a backup to my Ext. SCSI Orb drive from OS/2 yet but 
running in NT a backup proceeded at about 10 Mb per minute. 
Maybe that is the best I can hope for with an ISA system and
OS/2. If I can't get a significant performance boost from 
another SCSI card that it isn't worth doing at any price I 
guess.

Dana

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:36:41, Alan Beagley 
<abeagley@optonline.net> wrote:

> Doug Bissett gave many good reasons for not spending a significant sum
> of money to update an old computer
> 
> OTOH, Dana may see a significant performance improvement by replacing
> the old ISA SCSI card by a somewhat better bought at the right price. I
> have just purchased on eBay (but have not yet received) an Adaptec 1542
> SCSI card which, while still an ISA card, also does bus-mastering. I
> hope that this (for the extravagant sum of $15.50 including s&h) will
> allow me to do other things while a backup to my SCSI tape drive is
> running.
> 
> Alan


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           05-Dec-99 17:42:21
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:48:44, Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com> 
wrote:

<snip>
> 
> Question(s):  The install on warp on this machine @work is purely for
learning /
> getting experience with the OS and possibly for implementing it for my own
use @home
> - is there a "need" to have a later fixpack applied other than 5?  Is this
synonymous
> with saying that NT1 SP1 is adequate and to just leave it @that?  (NOT!) 
Also - NT
> service packs contain all of the fixes from earlier incarnations - in other
words I
> can install an NT box and then just go straight to SP5 if I want to - I
don't have to
> apply 2-4 in order first.  Does this hold true with Warp?
> 

<snip>

Fixpacks with Warp are cumulative, each one has everything
earlier ones have. EXCEPT after FP 10 IBM split the FP
set for the OS into two, One for the OS (which continues
the incrementing number scheme - now up to FP 12).
the second is for device drivers now at DD number 1.

The device driver fixpack series updates the set
of device drivers that were included with the GA 
release of the OS. This includes such things as
the base IDE drivers.

Unlike NT, OS/2 fixpacks only do the base OS. There
are separate fixpack series for MPTS (networking protocols
like the TCP/IP stack and NETBIOS), TCP/IP applications,
File and Print Sharing client, Printer drivers updates are 
normally separate files. 

Individual device drivers are downloadable from the
OS/2 Device Driver Pak website
URL http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/
These are drivers for new devices that are not included
with the base OS, such as USB devices, network cards,
printer drivers, sound cards etc.

Sometines locating the correct FP to solve your
problems can be quite daunting. But the separate
FP method allows you to apply updates to the 
piece of the OS that is broken, usually without
breaking something else :-)

A good site for an overview of the OS/2 updates
available is
URL http://www.warpupdates.de/

I have heard some people day (post) that FP 9
is the most stable and others advocate FP 12
(the current latest). Usually people report
problems with all FP levels, the mix of hardware
and software installed on the machine usually
determines if the FP works.

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 05-Dec-99 12:40:25
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

nick@secant.com wrote:

>In article <AiaS4oXf0bkR092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>  raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net wrote:
>
>> Well, Bob & Icon sold their stuff to Blueprint Software
>> Works
>
>Exactly.  So, "the other guys" are gone.  I'm used to sparring
>with particular programmers through code.  Those programmers
>have gone away.  I doubt the challenge will be matched again.
>But I shouldn't have had to explain this.

I guess you have to be a little nutty to be a programmer.

>snip 

>My ISP's news server (I get my news from PSI net) will not give
>me any of your posts at all.  I only have problems with a very
>few posts; dunno if it's something to do with att.net or nor.

Maybe it's your newsreader?

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu                     05-Dec-99 18:36:09
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: No sound with Comm461 drag/drop

From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu

In article <384A10E0.6B064453@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>,
  "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:

> I don't know of any sound when dropping items into folders.

I think he's refeering to the OS/2 system sound event "Begin Drag" and
"End Drag" not being trigered by Comm/2.

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |But on the other hand...|
hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |There's 5 more fingers. |


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From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca                06-Dec-99 02:33:13
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?

From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca (Jack Troughton)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 22:17:47, Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com> 
wrote:

êDoug. Lorne, et all...
Û
êOutstanding.  Thanks for the help and info.  The fixpack / device driver fix
packs split
êmore or lesss clears that one up.  (I was wondering about the "dd" fixes... )
Û
êDoug:  What exactly (if ~exactly~ can be defined...) will be "the problem"
with respect to
êOS/2?  Are there known issues with it that are going to be more effectual (in 
a negative
êmanner) on an OS/2 platformed box than on an MS based one (any variant of 9x
- NT)?  Known
êissues in a ~positive~ manner?

The only problem warp has is a dearth of commercial support.  OTOH, 
there is a pile of excellent freeware available for it.  I'd highly 
recommend you go to hobbes and search on emxrt.zip.  This is the EMX 
runtime.  It's part of the EMX development system, which permits the 
easy porting of unix console apps to warp.  There is an XFree86 server
available as well; all can be found on Hobbes:)

êI'm planning on installing the Star Office app suite on the box tommorow, and 
then I would
êlike to look into a backup solution as well as the box has an adaptec scsi
host controller
êon it (its a compaq deskpro 6000).  I have access to an external HP 4mm dat
drive that I
êwould like to put back into service - I'm tentativly looking at something
called "Back
êAgain/2000" - should I just leave the box @FP5 if everything works, or should 
I take it up
êto what appears to be a stable FP9 and then be done with it?  Also (now that
I think about
êit), should I install my apps/ util / etc... s/w ~first~ and then apply FP9,
or doesn't it
êmatter?  It's a general rule of thumb in the NT world that if you install s/w 
~after~
êhaving installed a service pack or hotfix, to reload said SP or hot fix
afterwards (in case
êany files got stomped...).

If you're familiar with unix programs, you might find that gtar and 
gtak can be a great solution when using a scsi-hosted tape drive.  
They will require emx; but that's no big deal, I've been using emx for
years with almost no problems.

You don't have to worry about apps stomping on system files in warp; 
there is a sane seperation between the system and the applications.  
In fact, if you hose the system, and if you keep all your apps on a 
seperate partition, you will be able to get probably ~95% of them 
going again without reinstalling; for ~85% of apps, simply creating a 
new program object on the desktop is enough.  For picky windows ports 
like netscape, you'll usually have to futz two or three files on the 
system partition (netscape.ini, found in the \os2\mdos\winos2, comes 
to mind; you need it if you want win3.x plugins to work properly under
netscape in warp) and some path information.  I have apps that I 
installed on this computer three years ago that have never needed to 
be reinstalled; and not just simple ones either.  For example, you can
get staroffice going after a system reinstall by creating a new 
program object.  Again, it might work more to your liking if you do 
some playing with the path and libpath, but it will work if you simply
drag soffice.exe to the desktop to create a program object.

êLast but not least - I would lke to be able to get it to talk co-operatively
with the NT
êbased network that I have @work - this appears to be some form of real devil
worship black
êmagic.  I have bookmarked some good looking resources to assist me with
this...  I'm
êkeeping my fingers crossed.  The box isn't half bad now as it is - I am
getting name
êresolution when it comes to pinging machines in the domain, and I can even
get out onto the
êinternet through the proxy server which is located across the wan (  :)  ) -
I don't know
êif I will be able to use any printers or map any drives on the NT boxes
though (I haven't
êtried yet).  For what its worth - the PC is running as an "Easy Install"
mode, (vs. the
ê"Advanced Install").  I know of the following resources for doing this:
Û
êColin's how to connect OS/2 PCs to NT domains page:
êhttp://www.haynes97.freeserve.co.uk/os2tont.htm
Û
êRokNroB's Electrons
êhttp://www.flash.net/~roknrob/sea.htm
Û
êSetting Up OS/2 Peer-to-Peer Networking & Coexistence of Warp & NT Machines
on the MITNet
êhttp://www.mit.edu/activities/os2/peer/WARPPEER.HTM
Û
ê.... do you folks know of other resources for reference?  I ~should~ be able
to do this with
êwhat I have @present, shouldn't I?

Yes, in fact, I have it set up at work.  It's not as hard as it 
appears.  The important thing that will save you many headaches is to 
script peer in startup.cmd.  If a file called startup.cmd is found in 
the root directory of the boot drive, it will be run before the 
desktop starts.  I use it on the box at work to run a bunch of "net 
use" commands to hook up to the printer and the shared drives that I 
need at work.  Here's an example...

net use \\server\sharename j:

to map to drive j.

Check out the net commands in the OS/2 Warp command reference!

Also, I'd like to point out that the way that networking is set up in 
warp means that you can configure the box to just boot to a command 
line and still have full networking services available to you; this is
a great aid in making a server stable for the really long term.

Welcome to warp, enjoy the trip!

<snip some good stuff>

Ease!

Jack Troughton   ICQ:7494149
http://jakesplace.dhs.org
jack.troughton at videotron.ca
jake at jakesplace.dhs.org
MontrÚal PQ Canada

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From: 1979j@usa.net                                     06-Dec-99 01:13:22
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Can someone help me?

From: Jugulator <1979j@usa.net>

Hello,

I am preparing an exam at my college on Operating Systems. I would like
to
quote OS/2 as the first ever OS for PC with a GUI. The first version of
OS/2
with Presentation Manager was OS/2 1.1, released in 1989. Can someone
give me that release, 1.1? Please, I really need it, I would like to
make a good job and OS/2 not to be forget.

Thanks in advance
Jugulator

Please Note : I am not interested in other OS/2 1.x versions, I need
1.1, because of his historical importance. Thanks

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      05-Dec-99 18:41:18
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <bHvq2TZKOoob-pn2-StOYSJDu3jUs@slip-32-100-116-235.ia.us.prserv.net>,
Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock) writes:

>Currently I have an Adaptec 1520 SCSI host adpater in my 5 
>year old pc. The pc has ISA slots
>and 52 Mb of memory, running an AMD 5/133 overdrive chip.
> 
>Is there a better host adapter card available that would 
>provide any performance boost in
>this system?

Probably not if all you have is ISA slots.  You aren't going to 
be able to effectively use a bus-mastering card in an ISA bus; 
either you lose access to your memory above 16MB (OS/2 will use 
it as a fast swap area, but that's not the same) or you have to 
use double-buffering which will eat much of the performance 
benefit of the bus-mastering.

If you have PCI slots available on that machine you have many 
options for improvement.  Even used VLB adaptors ought to be OK, 
but be sure your MB can use a bus-mastering VLB card.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net                 06-Dec-99 01:40:13
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: can't get rsj to behave (still)

From: "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net>

On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 16:00:15 -0500, nemo@union.edu wrote:
>I get:
>
>"SYS0020: The system cannot find the device specified."
>
>I have LOCKCDR.FLT remmed out. I'll try your suggestion later when I
>reboot.
>
>I'm suspecting there's some bug about running the cdrw as the only
>cd-player.

No.  I got a new case and didn't move the Mitsumi CD player over right away. 
I had no CD icon in the Drives folder, until I attached a drive. (thats still
the situation,)  But after adding the Mitsumi CD-ROM back in it didn't make a
diff.  Worked both ways.


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From: letoured@nospam.net                               05-Dec-99 20:55:28
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: Aldus Pagemaker 3.0: any comments?

From: letoured@nospam.net

I think that last windows version that runs under OS2 is 5.0. (FWIW, the
same is true for FrameMaker 5.0.) PageMaker would be a far better choice,
as you have been thinking -- if the documents are not too long. Frame can
feather pages as well, but isn't efficeient for manually pushing things
around. Of course once you have a document set up its gee whiz for every
version.

Make sure you the name of the registered owner and the serial number for
PageMaker. (same for Frame).


>In casting about for a good desktop publishing program, I see Aldus
>Pagemaker 3.0 offered from time to time on EBAY.  They usually go for
>$20-30.  

>Is this a pretty competent program, similar to Pagemaker 6.0 under Win
>95?

>Does it produce pagemaker files that can be accepted by the newer Windows
>programs?  

>I make up copy for programs for a choral group, and can do pretty well
>with Word Pro, but it would be so much easier if the program had the
>capacity to make and move frames in tiny increments to balance the look
>of the page and so forth. 

>I would appreciate any users comments.  One of the big holes in OS2 is in
>the Desktop publishing area. 

_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            06-Dec-99 02:46:10
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

Well, Dana, if the 1542 has problems with memory more than 16Mb, I guess
it's not going to do me much good. I'll check back on Compuserve with
the guy who suggested it to me.

Dana Hartsock wrote:
> 
> Alan,
> 
> Doesn't the 1542 have problems with > 16Mb due to its bus
> mastering? I seem to recall this from the time I installed
> OS/2 and was looking for a SCSI card. (actually I needed the
> SCSI card so I could install OS/2 from CD-ROM) I haven't
> done a backup to my Ext. SCSI Orb drive from OS/2 yet but
> running in NT a backup proceeded at about 10 Mb per minute.
> Maybe that is the best I can hope for with an ISA system and
> OS/2. If I can't get a significant performance boost from
> another SCSI card that it isn't worth doing at any price I
> guess.
> 
> Dana
>

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From: archille@petrucci.net                             05-Dec-99 21:52:08
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:14
Subj: Re: Can someone help me?

From: "Promotheus" <archille@petrucci.net>

"Jugulator" <1979j@usa.net> wrote in message
news:384B0DDB.DFC54586@usa.net...
> Hello,
>
> I am preparing an exam at my college on Operating Systems. I would like
> to
> quote OS/2 as the first ever OS for PC with a GUI.


No, the first GUI was Apple's MAC OS







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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  06-Dec-99 03:37:15
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: Software Choice

From: The AntiGates <zeppelin@gte.net>

I am a SC member, and being so pretty much represents the only IBM
"sponsored" future for OS/2, I heartily recommend it.  In addition to
getting every update to Netscape and Java in 59 different languages, you
get a second CD with every distribution with such goodies as  TCP-IP 4.1
which is only available on a fee pay basis otherwise.

Plus whenever IBM pulls another "groanhead" maneuver with OS/2, youget
to complain directly to IBM, and unlike the rest of the world, they will
respond directly to you as a "premium service" subscribor.

It doesn't mean squat in terms of influencing their decisions, cause no
one with any intelligence can do that, but it is a small consolation to
know that the particular lie in you e-mail box has been personally
crafted just for you,.

Charles Christacopoulos wrote:
> 
> Tim Martin wrote:
> >
> > John Brock wrote:
> >
> > > In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> > > James Stotz  <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> > > >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> > > >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> > > >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free.  If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> > > >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money.  Also,
> > > >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
> 
> Software choice has always been for complete packages and not fixes (or
> fixes which in effect upgrade a package to a newer version).  Fixes are
> free if you can find them,  However, if a fix results in a newer version
> then you cannot buy the new version unless you are part of software
> choice.  Examples, newer version of tcpip for warp server, PSNS for warp
> server and so on.
> 
> I am not sure they can get away with charging either for Java or
> Netscape, remains to be seen.
> 
> From a business point of view it does make sence for IBM to know what is
> the subscription rate as the income generated may indicate interest in
> os/2.  From this end, I have to buy licences for my OS/2 server(s), it
> would make business sence for us too.  However, buying licences for
> clients can be an expensive recurrent cost (I guess financial
> institutions can be happy to pay it and may even negotiate better
> prices).
> 
> Charles
> 
> --
> Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
> Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
> Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
> http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
> Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
> too)

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  06-Dec-99 03:37:25
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: Software Choice

From: The AntiGates <zeppelin@gte.net>

I am a SC member, and being so pretty much represents the only IBM
"sponsored" future for OS/2, I heartily recommend it.  In addition to
getting every update to Netscape and Java in 59 different languages, you
get a second CD with every distribution with such goodies as  TCP-IP 4.1
which is only available on a fee pay basis otherwise.

Plus whenever IBM pulls another "groanhead" maneuver with OS/2, youget
to complain directly to IBM, and unlike the rest of the world, they will
respond directly to you as a "premium service" subscribor.

It doesn't mean squat in terms of influencing their decisions, cause no
one with any intelligence can do that, but it is a small consolation to
know that the particular lie in you e-mail box has been personally
crafted just for you,.

Charles Christacopoulos wrote:
> 
> Tim Martin wrote:
> >
> > John Brock wrote:
> >
> > > In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> > > James Stotz  <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> > > >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> > > >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> > > >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free.  If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> > > >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money.  Also,
> > > >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
> 
> Software choice has always been for complete packages and not fixes (or
> fixes which in effect upgrade a package to a newer version).  Fixes are
> free if you can find them,  However, if a fix results in a newer version
> then you cannot buy the new version unless you are part of software
> choice.  Examples, newer version of tcpip for warp server, PSNS for warp
> server and so on.
> 
> I am not sure they can get away with charging either for Java or
> Netscape, remains to be seen.
> 
> From a business point of view it does make sence for IBM to know what is
> the subscription rate as the income generated may indicate interest in
> os/2.  From this end, I have to buy licences for my OS/2 server(s), it
> would make business sence for us too.  However, buying licences for
> clients can be an expensive recurrent cost (I guess financial
> institutions can be happy to pay it and may even negotiate better
> prices).
> 
> Charles
> 
> --
> Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
> Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
> Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
> http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
> Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
> too)

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  06-Dec-99 03:38:05
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: Software Choice

From: The AntiGates <zeppelin@gte.net>

I am a SC member, and being so pretty much represents the only IBM
"sponsored" future for OS/2, I heartily recommend it.  In addition to
getting every update to Netscape and Java in 59 different languages, you
get a second CD with every distribution with such goodies as  TCP-IP 4.1
which is only available on a fee pay basis otherwise.

Plus whenever IBM pulls another "groanhead" maneuver with OS/2, youget
to complain directly to IBM, and unlike the rest of the world, they will
respond directly to you as a "premium service" subscribor.

It doesn't mean squat in terms of influencing their decisions, cause no
one with any intelligence can do that, but it is a small consolation to
know that the particular lie in you e-mail box has been personally
crafted just for you,.

Charles Christacopoulos wrote:
> 
> Tim Martin wrote:
> >
> > John Brock wrote:
> >
> > > In article <38466B94.389536E1@canoemail.com>,
> > > James Stotz  <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> > > >I know that Software Choice will become a pay for use for all new
> > > >updates and applications, but is IBM going to keep current versions of
> > > >Netscape/2 and Java avaliable for free.  If not, new OS/2 buyers will
> > > >not be able to get any Netscape without forking out more money.  Also,
> > > >We'd all better download everything and save it in a safe place.
> 
> Software choice has always been for complete packages and not fixes (or
> fixes which in effect upgrade a package to a newer version).  Fixes are
> free if you can find them,  However, if a fix results in a newer version
> then you cannot buy the new version unless you are part of software
> choice.  Examples, newer version of tcpip for warp server, PSNS for warp
> server and so on.
> 
> I am not sure they can get away with charging either for Java or
> Netscape, remains to be seen.
> 
> From a business point of view it does make sence for IBM to know what is
> the subscription rate as the income generated may indicate interest in
> os/2.  From this end, I have to buy licences for my OS/2 server(s), it
> would make business sence for us too.  However, buying licences for
> clients can be an expensive recurrent cost (I guess financial
> institutions can be happy to pay it and may even negotiate better
> prices).
> 
> Charles
> 
> --
> Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
> Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
> Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
> http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
> Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
> too)

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From: mikelrob@flash.net                                06-Dec-99 04:10:17
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: Comm461 Anomalies

From: mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson)

On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 17:44:24, m.o.davis@gte.net (Mark Davis) wrote:

> NSComm46\PROGRAM\java\classes\118\118.zip,

	I'll give this a shot.  Thanks.


***Live simply, that others may simply live.***

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From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com                      06-Dec-99 04:45:06
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock)

Alan,

Hope you saw the note posted to this NG earlier. With the 
1542 bus-mastering, OS/2 can only use the first 16 Mb of 
memory, the rest is used as a fast a fast swap area. That 
jibes with what I
"thought" I remembered.

Dana

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From: tomp@st.net.au                                    06-Dec-99 14:51:04
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 03:38:15
Subj: Re: Can someone help me?

From: "Tom Perrett" <tomp@st.net.au>

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 21:52:17 -0500, Promotheus wrote:

>> I am preparing an exam at my college on Operating Systems. I would like
>> to
>> quote OS/2 as the first ever OS for PC with a GUI.
>
>
>No, the first GUI was Apple's MAC OS

Well to be picky, they brought the
Lisa line out before the Mac and
that was their first GUI product.

We must not forget Digital Research's
GEM either, but of couse the daddy
to the lot was XEROXs work at
Alto Palo.

Tom


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From: aljohnson@centuryinter.net                        06-Dec-99 07:10:03
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 05:15:23
Subj: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: aljohnson@centuryinter.net

What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the various 
flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and let me know.  

Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.

Allen

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From: cwr@cts.com                                       06-Dec-99 07:30:01
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 05:15:24
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

[headers trimmed]

In comp.os.os2.apps Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com> wrote:
: Doug. Lorne, et all...

: Outstanding.  Thanks for the help and info.  The fixpack / device driver fix 
packs split
: more or lesss clears that one up.  (I was wondering about the "dd" fixes...
)

: Doug:  What exactly (if ~exactly~ can be defined...) will be "the problem"
with respect to
: OS/2?  Are there known issues with it that are going to be more effectual
(in a negative
: manner) on an OS/2 platformed box than on an MS based one (any variant of 9x 
- NT)?  Known
: issues in a ~positive~ manner?

OS/2 is pretty mature and solid - however, it lacks device drivers for
modern and peculiar equipment (IBM still produces upgrades for common
stuff) and IBM really dislikes home OS/2 users.  (They aren't too keen
on commercial OS/2 users, either).  This lends a certain spice ...

Hobbes is major OS/2 resource; get the Hobbes CDROM(s) from Walnut 
Creek, tho' that is (AFAIK) a slightly different set of files to
the currrent Hobbes.  Anyway, the current version is essential.

The weak heel of OS/2, so far as there is one, is its .ini files.
On FAT they are a real pain; run HPFS file systems, with a small
C: partition for any MS stuff that _must_ be on FAT.  However,
they still need cleaning out from time to time, and there are
several freeware utilities that will do this.  I use the commercial
Unimaint, which is clunky but worth the money.

The other thing that needs maintenance/archiving is the desktop. If
that gets blown away, it's a pain to restore.  Again, I use Unimaint
for this; DeskMan/2 is better, but desktops are all it does.  There's
probably freeware stuff as well.

A process-killer like Process Commander used to be essential, and is
still nice to have; PC won't run out of the box on Warp 4 FP 12, but
you can get it to run - there are also a lot of freeware process
killers around.

Finally, there are several backup solutions.  I use BA/2 Pro with a 4G
T4 (on an all-SCSI machine) and like it, tho' its catalog handling could
be improved.

Note that OS/2 will handle Windows stuff pretty well, _execept_ for the
most recent Win32; MS managed to break Win-OS2 after several attempts,
and IBM haven't tried to fix it.

As far as Fixpacks are concerned, I ran Warp 3.0 FP 22 until a month
or two ago when I upgraded to FP 40: the machine did all I wanted it
to.  OS/2 3.0 and 4.0 are pretty stable after the first few fixpacks.
(Note that fixpack numbers jump - 5 to 9 to 17 to 22, as I recall,
for 3.0.  The "missing" fixpacks are IBM internal release only).

You _must_ check the .de site (named elsewhere in this thread, and I
can't find my reference) for Fixpack applicability outside the base
OS.   Finding the relevant fixpack is otherwise a nightmare.

Oh, and for OS/2 software, check Indelible Blue first.


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    06-Dec-99 02:43:20
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 05:15:24
Subj: Re: can't get rsj to behave (still)

From: nemo@union.edu

In <zhqfunexjbeyqargnggarg.fmapzy0.pminews@news.optonline.net>, on
12/06/99 
   at 01:40 AM, "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net> said:


>>I'm suspecting there's some bug about running the cdrw as the only
>>cd-player.

>No.  I got a new case and didn't move the Mitsumi CD player over right
>away.  I had no CD icon in the Drives folder, until I attached a drive.
>(thats still the situation,)  But after adding the Mitsumi CD-ROM back in
>it didn't make a diff.  Worked both ways.

This is good to know. As far as the icon behavior goes, I see the same
phenomenon. 

Still suffering from the problem of not being able to write to cd. 

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           06-Dec-99 07:51:15
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 05:15:24
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:10:06, aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:

> What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
various 
> flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and let me
know.  
> Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.
> 

OS/2 2.11 4 to 16 Mbyte
OS/2 3 8 to 16 Mbyte
OS/2 3 Connect 8 to 32 Mbyte (networking needs RAM)
OS/2 4 16 to 64 Mbyte
OS/2 4.5 (WSeB) 64 to 128 Mbyte

All OS/2 versions perform better with more RAM
Warp 3 and 4 do best with 64 Mbyte 
Warp 3 Connect using TCP/IP will beat itself to death with 8 Mbyte

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  06-Dec-99 08:11:22
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 05:15:24
Subj: Re: Zip 100 parallel

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-pMsvQ7dst1Kd@localhost>,
  doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:43:35, cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > I thought they would just answer: OS/2? What is that? Isn't it die
long
> > ago?
>
> I suspect that IOMEGA is starting to realize that OS/2 is still
> around, and that they are, probably, losing market to the new ORB
> drives (check out:
> http://www.castlewood.com/
> for more info).

Could be of course, but I think I will still use it for some time, even
with the workarounds I described! It mainly still does what I want it to
do now.

> > So this is already a little bit better :-) - even if it doesn't help
:-(
> >
> > But in the end my use of the parallel port ZIP100 is not much
different
> > to what they proposed:
> >
> > - I am not at FP6, but at FP11 (a german version of FP12 doesn't
exist
> > yet, plus reading the news here and elsewhere gives the impression
that
> > there is a lot of trouble with it anyway)
>
> FP12 (US) is much better than FP11, except for the PMMERGE.DLL
> problems (IMO). Look for PMR00052.ZIP at HOBBES. It replaces
> PMMERGE.DLL with a new one, that seems to work MUCH better (I don't
> know if that actually applies to the German version of OS/2, but you
> will want to check it out when the time comes).

I am not sure if possibly the long delay between the US FP12 and the NLS
versions is due to the fact that they still want to correct some bugs??
This would mean we wouldn't need the PMMERGE.DLL replacement any more??!
I think other NLS versions of Fixpaks were out much quicker, at least
the german (and possibly japanese) one.

And furthermore: Isn't just much of the language support of the OS
related to the PMMERGE.DLL file, so if we replace it with an US version
we would get a "mixed system" - still possibly working, but probably
with some strange effects??! I would be careful in any case!

> > - I have a PP ZIP100, a PP DITTO backup tape and a printer, but I
always
> > connect only one of them, i.e. no chaining
> >
> > - After I used any of the two Iomega PP devices I always reboot
first
> > before I use any other of the three. Only switching from the printer
to
> > any of the other devices seems to be unproblematic
>
> I use a ZIP drive, with an Epson Stylus Color 600 printer. The
> passthrough works without problems, but trying to use both devices at
> the same time is painfully slow. I don't know what complications you
> might get into with a PP DITTO drive.
>
> > - I never do any file handling on the ZIP100 with the WPS, I always
go
> > to the command line
>
> I don't have any problems with using the WPS, or the command line,
> other than the usual restrictions with the 8.3 file naming convention.
> I did try HPFS on the disks, a long time ago, but that proved to be
> more trouble than it was worth, so I stick to the FAT16 file system.

You probably have to if you choose the PP ZIP as a means to carry data
to other computers which might be running other OS'ses!

> > I am sure not all these measures are really necessary all the time,
but
> > since I am doing like that I have no troubles with any Iomega
devices
> > any more, even if most of it is rather stupid! But I learned to be
> > cautious after many strange effects and bad experiences with doing
> > things differently.
>
> I found that the PP ZIP drive works well, but you do want to keep
> things simple.

That's exactly the point! And for my notebook I have to do some plugging
in and out anyway!

> > If I would use the devices every day this would be too much trouble
and
> > I sure would change to other products, but I use the ZIP100 only for
> > certain "semi-important" archives, i.e. files that could otherwise
be
> > reloaded via internet etc., and for moving files around.
> >
> > All this plugging in and unplugging will sound somewhat less strange
if
> > I mention the fact that I am working all the time with a Notebook
> > computer: I like the mobility that gives me!
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Cornelis Bockemühl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> >
>
> Overall, I am quite happy with the PP ZIP drive, but it would be nice
> if it was faster, and could hold more data. Oh well, perhaps next
> year...
>
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    05-Dec-99 10:12:09
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:23
Subj: Re: Remote Access to OS/2 (eg. MS NetMeeting)

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <384532d0$1$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru>,
"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> wrote:

>However, there is an absolutely wonderful little utility providing full
>remote access to OS/2 desktop from _any_ computer with Java-enabled
>browser installed. It is called Desktop On-Call, produced by IBM Japan
>software unit. You can buy it on-line  via IBM Direct, it's only about $40
>and worth each penny of this price. I use it to control my main server
>from home and even from abroad. Also, there's WinNT version available to
>control WinNT desktop in the same way. Nice feature of DToC is that it
>runs over a standard HTTP protocol, so you can easily access your remote
>machine from behind a NAT firewall, HTTP proxy, SOCKS proxy or whatever.
>It is also pretty secure (uses MD5 security I beleive).

There is also now a Linux version.


-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  06-Dec-99 10:08:09
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:23
Subj: Netscape 4.61 questions

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

Netscape 4.61 (de, with Fortify) works generally great here (no
crashes, no freezes etc.), but still some problems/questions remain:

- On certain _PAGES_ (or sites?) it becomes painfully slow, almost not
moving any more! Of course this can always be the fault of the other
side, but in some cases I tried many times and many different times of
the day or night, i.e. with my bank account. Another URL that could
serve as a test case is
http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com/mapmachine/
Anyone else these problems? Even a workaround or a solution except just
waiting? At least the mapmachine URL works with no problem from my NT
computer at work. A common feature of the "slow places" is their heavy
use of Javascript and other gimmicks...

- Many times I can hardly decipher the texts in pages with the standard
settings, and also here this is not the case on the NT machine (also
with Netscape) for the same URLs! I heard others complaining about this
problems here already, but I didn't come across a real solution - or did
I just miss it?

Cornelis Bockemühl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>
Author of "PmAs - Astronomy for the Presentation Manager"
http://www.datacomm.ch/cobo


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From: qualitas                                          06-Dec-99 12:18:15
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:23
Subj: lotus ss

From: qualitas <qualitas>

Hi all!

Word Pro allows me to insert special characters in the text.
However I cannot find a similar feature in FLG. I tried to type the
character in WPro in order to copy it and insert it into FLG, but no
success. The result was another character in FLG. Anyone know of a
solution?

Madis K

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From: radu_trm@yahoo.com                                06-Dec-99 12:26:20
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:23
Subj: Re: Software Choice

From: radu <radu_trm@yahoo.com>

That was true about two months ago. (I'm from Romania, and the problem was not
<Romania>, but selling outside USA - that's because of a clause in the
contract
with IBM)

Gilbert Lefebvre wrote:

> I'm in Canada and have heard Indelible Blue was not allowed to sell
> software choice out of the USA. This was true a year and a half ago and
> don't know if it has changed...
>
> ----
> Gilbert Lefebvre

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From: radu_trm@yahoo.com                                06-Dec-99 13:14:11
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Re: Aldus Pagemaker 3.0: any comments?

From: radu <radu_trm@yahoo.com>

Don't know if this helps, but you might give a try to Maul, a native PM
application which is actively  developed. I can't say anything about
it's performance since I'm not a publisher, but you can find some
references at http://www.macarlo.com/maulpubtest2810.htm.
You can download a fully functional version and evaluate for about 30
days (there is a new version on HOBBES).

Radu

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From: radu_trm@yahoo.com                                06-Dec-99 13:26:06
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Re: Can someone help me?

From: radu <radu_trm@yahoo.com>

Was OS/2 or NeXT the first os with an OO GUI?
If OS/2, than it might be quoted as having the first CORBA based OO GUI
(OS/2 v2.0, I think).
Good luck with your exam!
Radu

Jugulator wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am preparing an exam at my college on Operating Systems. I would like
> to
> quote OS/2 as the first ever OS for PC with a GUI. The first version of
> OS/2
> with Presentation Manager was OS/2 1.1, released in 1989. Can someone
> give me that release, 1.1? Please, I really need it, I would like to
> make a good job and OS/2 not to be forget.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Jugulator
>
> Please Note : I am not interested in other OS/2 1.x versions, I need
> 1.1, because of his historical importance. Thanks

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From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com                      06-Dec-99 12:34:08
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock)

That confirms my suspicion re. the AHA1542. Thanks.

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:41:37, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid   
   (John Thompson) wrote:

> In <bHvq2TZKOoob-pn2-StOYSJDu3jUs@slip-32-100-116-235.ia.us.prserv.net>,
Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock) writes:
> 
> >Currently I have an Adaptec 1520 SCSI host adpater in my 5 
> >year old pc. The pc has ISA slots
> >and 52 Mb of memory, running an AMD 5/133 overdrive chip.
> > 
> >Is there a better host adapter card available that would 
> >provide any performance boost in
> >this system?
> 
> Probably not if all you have is ISA slots.  You aren't going to 
> be able to effectively use a bus-mastering card in an ISA bus; 
> either you lose access to your memory above 16MB (OS/2 will use 
> it as a fast swap area, but that's not the same) or you have to 
> use double-buffering which will eat much of the performance 
> benefit of the bus-mastering.
> 
> If you have PCI slots available on that machine you have many 
> options for improvement.  Even used VLB adaptors ought to be OK, 
> but be sure your MB can use a bus-mastering VLB card.
> 
> -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)
> 


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From: nick@secant.com                                   06-Dec-99 12:39:00
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: nick@secant.com

In article <jOqS4oXf0fdL092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
  raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net wrote:

> >My ISP's news server (I get my news from PSI net) will not
give
> >me any of your posts at all.  I only have problems with a
very
> >few posts; dunno if it's something to do with att.net or
nor.
>
> Maybe it's your newsreader?

I guess I should have predicted that response from you.  Should
I take the time to explain that I would have explored that
possibility first?  That, before I went to Dejanews to respond,
I might try two versions of Netscape (OS/2 and NT) and even
telnetting to my ISP's newsserver?

Nah, it's not my newsreader.  Perhaps it's yours?

Nick


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From: mcbrides@erols.com                                06-Dec-99 07:02:16
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 11:08:24
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride)

In article <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-rZzJSh0PecdF@tcpserver>,
lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:10:06, aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:
>
>> What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
various
>> flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and let me
know.
>> Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.
>>
>
>OS/2 2.11 4 to 16 Mbyte
>OS/2 3 8 to 16 Mbyte
>OS/2 3 Connect 8 to 32 Mbyte (networking needs RAM)
>OS/2 4 16 to 64 Mbyte
>OS/2 4.5 (WSeB) 64 to 128 Mbyte
>
>All OS/2 versions perform better with more RAM
>Warp 3 and 4 do best with 64 Mbyte
>Warp 3 Connect using TCP/IP will beat itself to death with 8 Mbyte
>

If your work happens to NOT require the GUI, you could run the older version
OS/2 in as little as 4meg. I haven't had the pleasure to run 4.0 and 4.5 in
text mode only, but expecting good results in 8meg shouldn't be unreasonable.

TSHELL, is still available as EWS.

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          06-Dec-99 13:31:03
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:04
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:39:01, nick@secant.com wrote:

> In article <jOqS4oXf0fdL092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
>   raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net wrote:
> 
> > >My ISP's news server (I get my news from PSI net) will not
> give
> > >me any of your posts at all.  I only have problems with a
> very
> > >few posts; dunno if it's something to do with att.net or
> nor.
> >
> > Maybe it's your newsreader?
> 
> I guess I should have predicted that response from you.  Should
> I take the time to explain that I would have explored that
> possibility first?  That, before I went to Dejanews to respond,
> I might try two versions of Netscape (OS/2 and NT) and even
> telnetting to my ISP's newsserver?
> 
> Nah, it's not my newsreader.  Perhaps it's yours?

Hm. I'm coming in late but it appears we're showing testiness on both 
sides, here. I'm sticking my nose in because I can appreciate both 
positions, especially after Nick's explanation of his database 
problems which explains perfectly the behaviour that caused me to give
up MR2News. After a lot of grief, evidently as others have had.

I did so sadly, not because the news client was free (with purchase of
Mail) but because I like having a unified mail/news client, I like 
sharing phonebooks, saved files, and filters. And I hope sending in my
v.2 refresher in time for Christmas will give Nick a portion of the 
encouragement he needs to dive back in and perfect it. 

The abandonware ProNews client, which I was disappointed to see Nick 
doesn't mention testing (Netscape's News isn't any kind of paradigm of
news clientology, to my mind) has some wonderful features, and is 
designed very well to my eye, but it also gets into some nasty 
situations (database management?) of its own that can lead to 
destruction of files, and has a filter language that's much less 
useful than Nick's exemplary system for MR2.

But I too have had at least one ISP account which was doing something 
strange to all of my news postings, and which seemed to be getting 
some of them lost from NNTP propagation. I think I see items from both
parties here, regularly, so I can't offer any technical suggestions 
other than, "Pour some oil on the water, y'all."


-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: willem_merkenhof@my-deja.com                      06-Dec-99 14:12:01
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:04
Subj: Re: Epson Stylus Color 740 or 750

From: willem_merkenhof@my-deja.com

In article <3849206E.8FD5FCE0@village.uunet.be>,
  Peter Wuyts <peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be> wrote:
> Anyone some experience with those printers and OS/2 ?
> Which driver is the best : IBM's omni-driver or Epson's omni-driver?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter Wuyts
> peter.wuyts@village.uunet.be
>
>
Hello Peter,
I have the Epson 740 and use the OMNI driver version 30.702 simply
because this is the only driver that list the 740 as beeing supported.
The older German driver nor the EPOMNI can be used as far as i know. I
base this conclusion on searching the product specs for the 740 and the
specs for the various printers supported by the EPOMNI and the Epson.de
drivers. The OMNI driver is doing a good job both B&W and
color/full-color. Only downside is the limited number in supported paper
qualities and no support for glossy etc.

greetings Willem.


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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            06-Dec-99 15:03:06
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:04
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

I had posted a message a week or so ago on comp.periphs.scsi asking
about bus-mastering ISA SCSI adapters, but no replies showed up on my
ISP's news server. Now, searching on deja.com I found two replies, one
of them from Trevor Hemsley, who I think you know is something of an
OS/2 guru.

Trevor says that there is an undocumented /DBUFF switch for the 1542
driver in warp 4 which is supposed to solve this problem. I've posted
another message there asking for clarification of some details, and I'll
pass on the information when I receive it.

Alan


Dana Hartsock wrote:
> With the
> 1542 bus-mastering, OS/2 can only use the first 16 Mb of
> memory, the rest is used as a fast a fast swap area. That
> jibes with what I
> "thought" I remembered.

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        06-Dec-99 15:07:15
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:04
Subj: PMMERGE problems with SmartSuite

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

I have just installed SmartSuite for OS/2 Warp on top of WSeB and keep getting
Access Violations (SYS3175) in PMMERGE.DLL when attempting to run 1-2-3,
Freelance Graphics or Approach. WordPro and Organizer work OK.

Can anyone suggest what I should do to fix it?

--
John

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            06-Dec-99 15:14:02
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:04
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

An addendum to my previous message:

I hav only just now (after posting a reponse to Dana's message) read
John Thompson's earlier message, which also refers to double buffering
(the purpose of the /DBUFF switch to which I referred) and a resultant
performance hit.

I am not sure what Dana is planning to run off a SCSI card. I am
planning to run only a tape drive, for which I would expect the reduced
performance incurred by double buffering to be adeqwuate.

Alan


Alan Beagley wrote:

<snip>

> Trevor [Hemsley] says that there is an undocumented /DBUFF switch for the
1542
> driver in warp 4 which is supposed to solve this problem. I've posted
> another message there asking for clarification of some details, and I'll
> pass on the information when I receive it.

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          06-Dec-99 15:57:11
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 14:17:04
Subj: Re: can't get rsj to behave (still)

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:43:41, nemo@union.edu wrote:

> In <zhqfunexjbeyqargnggarg.fmapzy0.pminews@news.optonline.net>, on
> 12/06/99 
>    at 01:40 AM, "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net> said:
> 
> 
> >>I'm suspecting there's some bug about running the cdrw as the only
> >>cd-player.
> 
> >No.  I got a new case and didn't move the Mitsumi CD player over right
> >away.  I had no CD icon in the Drives folder, until I attached a drive.
> >(thats still the situation,)  But after adding the Mitsumi CD-ROM back in
> >it didn't make a diff.  Worked both ways.
> 
> This is good to know. As far as the icon behavior goes, I see the same
> phenomenon. 
> 
> Still suffering from the problem of not being able to write to cd. 

Are you still remming out the LOCKCDR.FLT driver? Try unremming it, 
give it to RSJ for the session.

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: stumblebum@wasted.blort                           06-Dec-99 16:33:16
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 16:29:24
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: stumblebum@wasted.blort (Mike Trettel)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:06:55, Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana 
Hartsock) wrote:

> Alan,
> 
> Doesn't the 1542 have problems with > 16Mb due to its bus 
> mastering? I seem to recall this from the time I installed 
> OS/2 and was looking for a SCSI card. (actually I needed the
> SCSI card so I could install OS/2 from CD-ROM) I haven't 
> done a backup to my Ext. SCSI Orb drive from OS/2 yet but 
> running in NT a backup proceeded at about 10 Mb per minute. 
> Maybe that is the best I can hope for with an ISA system and
> OS/2. If I can't get a significant performance boost from 
> another SCSI card that it isn't worth doing at any price I 
> guess.
> 
> Dana

The 1542 runs pretty good even if you're using the double buffering 
switch in config.sys file.  I had one for a couple of years and in all
reality it didn't give me much trouble under OS/2 or Linux.  It would 
be an improvement over the 1520 you're presently using, but I wouldn't
spend too much time or money on it considering the age of the PC in 
question.  You can get used 1542B's and 1542CF's for $10 at the URL 
below:

http://www.deepspacetech.com (located in beautiful Frederick, 
Maryland, and no, I'm not affiliated with them)

Mike Trettel		trettel (shift 2) fred (small dot) net

Death to spammers, and so forth.  Fix the reply line to mail me.  
Sorry.

System uptime is 3 days 22:40 hours (en).

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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            06-Dec-99 17:57:14
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 16:29:24
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <bHvq2TZKOoob-pn2-6WPOUcRhJMbz@slip-32-100-141-248.ia.us.prserv.net>,
Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock) writes:
>Alan,

>Doesn't the 1542 have problems with > 16Mb due to its bus 
>mastering? I seem to recall this from the time I installed 
>OS/2 and was looking for a SCSI card. (actually I needed the
>SCSI card so I could install OS/2 from CD-ROM) I haven't 
>done a backup to my Ext. SCSI Orb drive from OS/2 yet but 
>running in NT a backup proceeded at about 10 Mb per minute. 
>Maybe that is the best I can hope for with an ISA system and
>OS/2. If I can't get a significant performance boost from 
>another SCSI card that it isn't worth doing at any price I 
>guess.
>
>Dana

Dana .. there are other reasons you might want to get a 1542C and add it
in your box in trying to stretch the funds even longer into the future
with using a later model faster drive the 1520 will not support!

I'll be glad to learn of the /DBUFF undocumented switch.  I never knew
it as well, so am reading this thread carefully.

We all do things with old equipment as long as we think we can, large
sly grin.  I'm still using an Adaptec 1542C in a fully ISA 20 slot
industrial case with a 486133 ACM converter chip and 32MB of memory.  It
runs a flock of low-speed level telecommunications applications and a
HUB plus phone-line BBS system which I have to maintain as a private
port.  Just to show you how bad off we keep things, recently I had to
have drive space, so I chunked a new Seagate Barracuda 9.1Gig drive in
it and used Drive Copy by Partition Magic to clone off the old system on
the new drive.

Sure, performance is a DOG compared to an Adaptec 2940UW or, .. and the
final results aren't in on this one yet with OS/2 .. a 2940U2W which I
have in the house for testing now.

This box is a Warp 4.0 box at FixPack Level 8.  It's the latest one that
has been offered which doesn't break something else that we need while
it fixes something else we could do without..  I think!  At any rate it
appears totally stable for all we really have to do at the moment.
That's important, because the SCSI hard disk driver with FP8, seems to
have fixed or been compatible with all the mix of trash we have around
on various boxes .. except .. for tape backup software compatibility
with the latest Adaptec 2940U2W card I mentioned above and any of the
other boxes which I attempted to use with an embedded mother board 7970
Adaptec chip set, I think it was called.

I've yet to be able to clean up all the mess with those two options with
the FixPack Level 8 SCSI Adaptec driver, and the later ones are too big
to fit on the floppy disk set for the utility disks without a lot of
gerrymandering to carve down the loader level of drivers to get both a
reliable utility disk set as well as a disk set that will let us go
forward with a universal solution for the new 2940U2W and embedded dual
channel, but not dual hardware channel stuff.

So far, and this may be all important to you .. the 1542C Adaptec card
with a >= version number 931 chipset on the LSI controller chip for that
card, appear to be working with the Seagate 9.1G drive for what it was
able to both low-level prep and verify which is some 8.6 GB seen with a
total of NINE (9) separate paritions that were needed for a reason I
didn't create..

You seem equipticulate, to coin a phrase.  I'll pass on what all else I
stumbled across so far which hasn't failed, in playing at what you wish
to play.

Be absolutely *SURE* you understand what the port setting, IRQ settings,
and so on are all about when you go to use this card.  It is absolutely
critical that you know what ports are in use, what IRQ's are in use and
what DMA channels are in use in you box and do not set the switches for
this controller in conflict with other stuff.  If you have a simple box,
the standard settings may be just fine.  Be aware that you can get in
trouble easily if your sound card IRQ and I/O port, as well as the GAME
PORT for your sound card are in conflict.  Many GAME PORT settings use
port 330 or 300 for that port.  It can cause trouble if you have a
conflict here and I think may be overlooked by the newbie at all this
with an older box.

Another trap is the I/O port and the IRQ which is used for your Network
Interface Card.  The older ISA cards that I've seen in the grand 2000
series stuff I've always used seem to initially favor port 340 and IRQ 5
if my memory is correct.  Aside from the well-know fight that goes on
between the sound card and the network card which seems to cause a lot
of people grief in finding, this can also grab you when you get to
choose the I/O setup for the 1542C card!  We also have a packet TNC
controller in the ham world in older equipment floating around that uses
only port 300 and 330 for an I/O which can mean you either get a
controller, 1542C and sound with no game port on it, or else.. if you
can see what I mean.

Per my experience in boxes which almost always seem to wind up with
every IRQ full .. I've found that letting the sound card keep IRQ 5
seems safer than some other choices.  I let it use the standard port 220
for sound and the game port of 330 or 300 .. *BUT* .. only after I have
made up my mind which of those two I might need or want for a 1542C!
Then for the NIC card, I have found I wind up on port 340 for it and IRQ
10 on most boxes.  That leaves IRQ 9 or another one for the 1542C.  Of
course IRQ 1, 6, 13 and, typically 14 are gone for other reasons.  Some
boxes and video stuff won't play for the 1542C with IRQ 9, but my
industrial card systems do.  Since I've already lost 4, 3, 12 and 15 ..
or 4, 3, 11 and 15 to all four serial ports, that leaves me only IRQ 9
or another choice to swap it for the 1542C as well.

That's assuming you don't still need that 1520 for another kludge reason
down the road.  Do *NOT* throw it away.  Here is why!

In the testing for this new Seagate 9.1Gig Barracuda, I stumbled onto a
curious fact!  Although I can get the Segate stable as a LVD device used
backwards on this 1542C controller with a 68-pin to 50-pin cable to
device adapter, it will *NOT* play with the Travan 4GB or Colorado
Memory Systems 2.4GB SCSI tape backup drive on the same cable!  The
1542C seems fully able to host this drive in the older environment, but
*NOT* with any for-real non-wide 50-pin device bridged on the cable
that feeds some of these fast-fast-faster drives!

I got through the Partition Magic Drive Copy process, with a totally
HPFS system just fine.  Come time to see the tape drive - kaplooyee.
Thus, in this case, I had to do much like you may have to do in the
future.  I went out and got an old 1510 Adaptec and stuck the tape drive
on it as a separate controller!  Whole system came to life!  Sure, it
takes another I/O port and another IRQ for that second simpler
controller, but .. hey .. I'm trying to keep you going on what you have
and can get for cheap - cheap - cheap.  Like the little birdy sez!

Two last little warm fuzzy notes that may save you countless heartaches.
On termination, please note that as the drive performance goeth up, so
goeth the requirement that your termination be absolutely right.  The
new LVD drives, although they seem, so far, to be working fine with the
old 1542C, *MUST* have an EXTERNAL TERMINATOR on the END of the drive
cable that supports it.  It is an ACTIVE TERNINATOR, even though it be
on a 50-pin cable and you are using a 50-pin cable to 68-pin device
adapter to run the new big drive!  The new drive goes one cable slot
down on the cable from the end which now has the terminator..

                *OR ELSE*   *IN MY HUMBLED EXPERIENCE*


As well, if you go out and buy a biggee drive and have the FixPack 8 level
driver installed and on your Utility disks along with the required HPFS
upgraded CHKDSK to use, you will, I think find out that you have to
pretty much have HPFS to remain solvent in this biz for your drives.  I
tried the FAT deal but went nuts keeping up with it and the crashes.

My life got a *LOT* nicer when I converted to HPFS .. totally.  If you
begin cloning little drives into bigger ones etc, ad infinitum, you'll
discover that without everything being in HPFS, life comes to an end as
soon as the first 1024 cylinders in a drive do not come to an end!!  I
still have Partition Magic for DOS and OS/2 version 2 which was good
enough to convert all my old drive smaller stuff to HPFS, get running,
then use them to clone up to bigger HPFS drives.  If you are using
Partition Magic to convert the partitions, be absolutely SURE that you
take note of the requirement to have the HPFS loader in your CONFIG.SYS
file before you do the job and to run, I think it's SYSINST or whatever
from a set of Utility disks on a freshly converted partition before you
go to boot the thing for the first time.

Yes, a good set of Utility disks is a must.

Taken all together, this may help you get a lot further with your quest.
As well, I'll be greatful to learn what this /DBUFF undocumented switch
is an where it goes.

The only thing I have noticed with the new super large drive is that it
seems much more sensitive to being stopped by power failures on this
older controller,  It comes up with a "Drive not shut down properly
error.." of some kind I never have seen before.

I discovered that to cure that, I had to boot to the command line with
ALT F1, or use the Utility disks.  If I just use the ALT F1 and then let
it do it's own check on drive C, then hand check each of the other
partitions with the /F procedure, it will clean up the whole thing.

I have yet to resolve whether that is a flaw in this whole setup of
using the LVD backwards against the 1542C, or is actually a result of
one of the old DOS-VDM applications doing some unknown form of TSR
driven disk I/O that I have just inherited and did not know about for
all these years.  That is, until I went to the LVD backwards step
against the 1542C controller...

All in the name of doing with what we have and for cheap ..

Yours in faith .. :)


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org

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From: lmagill@my-deja.com                               06-Dec-99 17:38:23
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 16:29:24
Subj: Re: Problem with chkdsk: error sys 1377

From: lmagill@my-deja.com

In article <pgbqqzntvpyvaxpbz.fm5gm60.pminews@news.newsguy.com>,
  "Chuck Todd" <ctodd@magiclink.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 18:26:40 GMT, lmagill@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >My appologies.  I failed to mention that the drive is SCSI.  Is
there a
> >similar file I should download for SCSI?
> >
> >L. Magill
>
> I am unfamiliar with any similar restrictions with SCSI controllers,
But did your working system
> use the boot drivers to control your SCSI adapter?  If you used an
updated driver I would
> recommend you add the driver to your boot diskettes and reference it
in the boot disks
> config.sys.   The IDEDASD.zip lists extranious driver that you can
delete to make room.
>
> Chuck Todd
>
>
I have updated the SCSI adapter (solved a minor problem in that a SCSI
CDRW is now recognized), but the problem with chkdsk still persists. It
still says "can't write to root on C", when booting from floppies or if
I try to just check (without fixing) when booted from C, "drive or
partition is locked" -- which it isn't, cause I can write to it with
any other program!  Any other thoughts - ?corrupted chkdsk log or other
file on C????


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From: Joe_Farruggio@amecom.com                          06-Dec-99 13:11:04
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 16:29:24
Subj: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8 

From: Joe Farruggio <Joe_Farruggio@amecom.com>

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 Does anyone know which backup program i can use with my new
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on a Tekram 390-U2W scsi controller. TIA

Joe Farruggio



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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               06-Dec-99 17:58:08
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 16:29:24
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 questions

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:
> 
> Netscape 4.61 (de, with Fortify) works generally great here (no
> crashes, no freezes etc.), but still some problems/questions remain:
> 
> - On certain _PAGES_ (or sites?) it becomes painfully slow, almost not
> moving any more! Of course this can always be the fault of the other
> side, but in some cases I tried many times and many different times of
> the day or night, i.e. with my bank account. Another URL that could
> serve as a test case is
> http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com/mapmachine/
Full of gifs which even if they are small will take local processing
time to be unencoded/expanded.

> Anyone else these problems? Even a workaround or a solution except just
> waiting? At least the mapmachine URL works with no problem from my NT
> computer at work. A common feature of the "slow places" is their heavy
> use of Javascript and other gimmicks...
> 
> - Many times I can hardly decipher the texts in pages with the standard
> settings, and also here this is not the case on the NT machine (also
> with Netscape) for the same URLs! I heard others complaining about this
> problems here already, but I didn't come across a real solution - or did
> I just miss it?
Netscape 461 shows the same TTFonts smaller than the previous version. 
It is how it interprets them.  If you already use a small size and visit
a site that uses font=2 you cannot read it.  :-(

Charles


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http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
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From: engel003@mc.duke.edu                              06-Dec-99 13:38:13
  To: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Desktop on Command v. 3.0 on the way?

To: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su
From: "L. Engelhart" <engel003@mc.duke.edu>

Does anybody have any information about when DToC v. 3.0 might be available? 
I
poked around the IBM Japan site but didn't see any reference at all to a newer
version than v. 2.5.


Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

> I heard v.3.0 is already out, but only in Japanese. Maybe these bugs were
> already fixed? Anyway, they are only minor ones, and DToC is a great
product.
>
> BTW, DToC also works fine with WSeb (Aurora). Neither NetOp nor PM2You does,
> both trap the system here.
>
>
> >Ivan Adzhubei <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> wrote in message
> >news:384532d0$1$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru...

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From: benson@cds-inc.com                                06-Dec-99 19:16:27
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: benson@cds-inc.com (Brad Benson)

Hi Joe,

Back Again/2000, brand new from CDS, supports your hardware - you can
download a demo to try out from www.cds-inc.com.

Cheers,
Brad


Joe Farruggio <Joe_Farruggio@amecom.com> wrote:

] Hi
]  Does anyone know which backup program i can use with my new
] Seagate STT28000N-MC tape system(SCSI Travan 8). I have it
] on a Tekram 390-U2W scsi controller. TIA
] 
] Joe Farruggio


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From: bobmcl@ibm.net                                    06-Dec-99 21:04:15
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net>


cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:

> In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-poBtPxtySd7k@SPHERICALBURN.TAMPABAY.RR.COM>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
> >On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:04:15, judithr@primenet.com a ?crit dans un message:
> >
> >> I use DeScribe for everything.  Depends on how much you want from a
> >> word processor.  It's not great for Desktop publishing.
>
> Wonderful..... but what is the point of telling us about a software
> program that is unavailable for purchase? Wasn't the request
> for guidance in buying a good wordprocessor? If so Describe
> is not an option.
>
> Keith Cotroneo
> cotroneo@stny.rr.com

 You can still buy DeScribe from me. I have CD's (and the manual etc) for
DeScribe 5 and Voyager (includes Mesa).

--
------------------------------------------------------
Bob McLellan
The Little Blue Kiwi
OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland


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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               06-Dec-99 14:30:02
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: Can someone help me?

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Jugulator wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am preparing an exam at my college on Operating Systems. I would like
> to
> quote OS/2 as the first ever OS for PC with a GUI. The first version of
> OS/2
> with Presentation Manager was OS/2 1.1, released in 1989. Can someone
> give me that release, 1.1? Please, I really need it, I would like to
> make a good job and OS/2 not to be forget.

	FYI OS/2 wasn't the first GUI environment for IBM PC's.  Prior to OS/2
v1.1 there was Windows v1.0, GEM desktop, and PC GEO, all of which
provided a GUI atop of DOS.

	Of course, OS/2 was the first PC OS to integrate a GUI desktop
environment right into the OS (at least inso as far as I can recall),
but there were several other GUI environments for IBM PC's prior to OS/2
v1.1.

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               06-Dec-99 14:34:11
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: DB2/PE

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>


jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote:
> 
> Has anyone tried the DB2 Personal Edition from the IBM d/l site?
> 
> When I tried to install it, it complained about the db2.rsp file being
> missing, and quit.
> 
> Is it a faulty program package, or have I missed something?

	Are you trying to do an attended (GUI) or unattended/scripted install? 
If the former, then DB2.RSP shouldn't matter.  If the latter, check the
script o make sure that the paths specified are correct, and that there
is no obvious problems with the file.

	Everything should work - it was fairly extensively tested here at the
lab, and numerous people have downloaded and successfully installed it
off the net.  If you can provide some details as to how you initiated
the install, I'd be happy to help however I can.

Brad BARCLAY
DB2 for OS/2 Install Team Lead.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            06-Dec-99 19:00:28
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: DB2/PE

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

Has anyone tried the DB2 Personal Edition from the IBM d/l site?

When I tried to install it, it complained about the db2.rsp file being 
missing, and quit. 

Is it a faulty program package, or have I missed something?

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Plymouth, MN
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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            06-Dec-99 19:50:13
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8 

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <384BFC3C.325C40ED@amecom.com>, Joe Farruggio <Joe_Farruggio@amecom.com>
writes:
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>
>Hi
> Does anyone know which backup program i can use with my new
>Seagate STT28000N-MC tape system(SCSI Travan 8). I have it
>on a Tekram 390-U2W scsi controller. TIA
>
>Joe Farruggio

I've had SYTOS PLUS latest version, I guess, with the added driver
for this drive.  They added the driver shortly after they introduced the
tape drive.  I won one in the original promotion deal for it!  When it
arrived, oops!  No driver!

It took them about 48 hours to cure that problem for Sytos Plus.

I've done a pile of complete tape restores to rebuild from scratch with
that drive and program.  Push the button after running REBOUND, whole
box comes up playing fine.  Same service from Adaptec 1542C cards up
through Adaptec 2949UW cards, and as well Adaptec 3940UW dual hardware
channel cards too.

Based on that, but thinking that Seagate wasn't maybe going to support
things OS/2 too well, I then pushed for a substitute for Systos Plus on
another site with more of these drives.  I did a run at BA2 from up in
Oklahoma.  By that time we were up in the 8GB range for hard disks as
well and also were being shown Adaptec 2940U2W as well as embedded 7970
controllers on the motherboards.

The whole thing originally blew up.

Nothing I got there would work with either the 2940UW or the embedded
controllers with BA2 and I wanted to press for a solution.  The TekRam
wouldn't work with the WD 9GB SCSI drives that were there.  I later
found out, after learning that LVD devices were involved and had to have
external termination, no matter what, might have worked with the TekRam
controller.  However, TDY away from home, becasue the 2940UW's were
still available we simply fell back to them and the Adaptec SCSI driver
from FP8.

With a little hand holding and the latest version of BA2 as well as a
careful creation of the utility disks needed, BA2 worked fine.  We've
used these tape drives for complete backup and restore creation of
cloned boxes many times since with up to 8GB drives, actually, I think
that is a raw 9.1GB unit, formatted down to some 8.68 seen or more.  It
depends on how many partitions you have.  All of the partitions and work
are total HPFS systems.

Recently, I needed support help on a Seagate product and went to their
site for it.  I noticed, in passing, that there was no mention of any
support, nor product line for SYTOS any longer.  Nor was there any
mention of OS/2 in the backup world on that site.

So said, I'm glad I pursued the issue with BA2.  I know there have been
many posts here about BA2 as a lousy product.  That noted, I'm still
aware that with a completely clean, no glitch disk to backyp, with all
the stuff shut down on it and nothing but the bare essentials running at
the time of the backup, we've not had any trouble.  We simply create a
tape.  We go build a new disk with the correct partitions from OS/2's
clean utlity disks in FP8.  We create the partions from the OS/2
utilities.  We pop in the tape.  We push the button.  The box comes up
and plays.

I think you should at least investigate BA2.  The creation disk may
require some hand-holding from the tech support there.  They were very
kind and supportive. By now, that may not be needed as they were going
through what I found on the way down the pig trail..

I know this isn't Tekram directed, but it might help ..


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org

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From: "jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org                     06-Dec-99 13:46:28
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: Jack Wise <"jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org>

Sytos Premium - sold by Seagate Software

Jack Wise



Joe Farruggio wrote:
> 
> Hi
>  Does anyone know which backup program i can use with my new
> Seagate STT28000N-MC tape system(SCSI Travan 8). I have it
> on a Tekram 390-U2W scsi controller. TIA
> 
> Joe Farruggio
> 
>

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From: 1979j@usa.net                                     06-Dec-99 22:01:00
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:15
Subj: OS/2 1.1

From: Nino <1979j@usa.net>

Hello All,

my name's Nino and I am a student at the 'La Sapienza' university in
Rome.
I am preparing a research on the history of PC for my next exam. OS/2
have
a huge importance for the IBM PC compatible platform, I'd like to quote
it
largely, but unfortunately I miss what maybe is the most important
version: OS/2 1.1, the first operating system for PC with a GUI, the
first OS/2 with Presentation Manager.

I would like to write an original article on it and take some
screenshots of OS/2 1.1 with my camera.

If someone please can supply me that version (which is, I suppose, about
4 or 5 5.25 disks) I will be very grateful; I really want my teachers
give OS/2 the importance and the respect that it deserves. Thanks in
advance

I am sorry for any off-topic generated but I really need your help.

Best regards,
Nino Solazzo

P.S. Please, answer me only if you have the 1.1 version. I am not a
collector so I am not interested in any other 1.x versions. Thanks
again.




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From: pgiang@my-deja.com                                06-Dec-99 21:19:26
  To: elegan@tekram.com.tw                              06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Re: can't get rsj to behave (still)

To: elegan@tekram.com.tw
From: PG <pgiang@my-deja.com>

Make sure SCSI adapter's dirver is updated. Earlier Tekram's driver
version would have problem with RSJ S/W.

==================
In article <zhqfunexjbeyqargnggarg.fm9y4r0.pminews@news.optonline.net>,
  "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 05:41:31 -0500, nemo@union.edu wrote:
>
> >Greetings!
> >
> >I'm about to post this to the rsj newsgroup but I thought I'd ask
here
> >also.
> >
> >I have a Ricoh cdrw as the _only_ cd-drive in my system (for now);
it is
> >running off of scsi id #2 off of a Tekram scsi adaptor.
> >
> >I have the follow setup in config.sys:
> >
> >BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
> >[...]
> >DEVICE=f:\CDWFS\RSJSCSI.SYS
> >IFS=f:\CDWFS\CDWFS.IFS
> >RUN=f:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "h:/TEMP" -c20000 -b2048 -t2 -i3 -s4 rem
> >BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT
> >
> >(LOCKCDR.FLT is remmed out because otherwise there's no access to the
> >cdrw, OS/2 occupies it.)
>
> You lost me here.  You mean you can't read 'normal' CDs otherwise?
You
> should be able to after 'attaching' the drive.
> What Richo are you using?  My Richo MP6002S seems fine. (my *old*
Mitsumi 1x
> can't read CDRs well)
> >
> >To attach the cdrw (K:) I use:
> >
> >cdattach z: -d k:
>
> I don't use the -d switch. (whats that for anyway? <grin>)
>
>


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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               06-Dec-99 14:50:14
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

ok,

I finally installed netscape 4.61, java 1.18 and feature install 1.2.5.

Now the problem.  Actually it's two.

On reading the mail, I can't even read any of the messages that was formerly
under Netscape/2 2.02  or under Netscape 3.04g.  The header does show tho.

Now, for the 2nd problem. this concerns the browser.  I goto one of the search
websites like Yahoo or Excite.  Usually, it has a search box to type in the
queries.  In this case, instead of search box, an underline is displayed.

any ideas on how to deal with these quirks?


Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509


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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     06-Dec-99 20:22:09
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 15:14:05 GMT, Alan Beagley wrote:

->An addendum to my previous message:
->
->I hav only just now (after posting a reponse to Dana's message) read
->John Thompson's earlier message, which also refers to double buffering
->(the purpose of the /DBUFF switch to which I referred) and a resultant
->performance hit.

I regularly burn CD's at 4X from a CD Writer attached to the external port
of a 1542B. It works just fine and the rest of OS/2 doesn't even seem to
notice that it's going on. This is on Warp 3 but using the Warp 4 version
of aha154x.add with the undocumented /dbuff parameter.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            06-Dec-99 22:13:12
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Re: DB2/PE

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <384C0FBF.51BABA03@ca.ibm.com>, Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> writes:
>
>
>jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone tried the DB2 Personal Edition from the IBM d/l site?
>> 
>> When I tried to install it, it complained about the db2.rsp file being
>> missing, and quit.
>> 
>> Is it a faulty program package, or have I missed something?
>
>	Are you trying to do an attended (GUI) or unattended/scripted install? 
>If the former, then DB2.RSP shouldn't matter.  If the latter, check the
>script o make sure that the paths specified are correct, and that there
>is no obvious problems with the file.
>
>	Everything should work - it was fairly extensively tested here at the
>lab, and numerous people have downloaded and successfully installed it
>off the net.  If you can provide some details as to how you initiated
>the install, I'd be happy to help however I can.
>
>Brad BARCLAY
>DB2 for OS/2 Install Team Lead.

Here's what I did:
    1) d/l'd peen.zip (32.8 mb) and pecmn.zip(40.3 mb) from the IBM
        web site.
    2) unzipped both files in an empty directory--h:\db2inst
    3) shifted to the empty directory
    4) typed install, and pressed <ENTER>

and here's what I got:
    1) IBM logo-auto timed advance to next window
    2) Welcome Window-press Continue
    3) Installation Window-select DB2 PE radio button, press Continue
    4) Popup error message:

              EPFIE188:  The file ('h:\db2inst\db2\en\install\db2.rsp')
                           is in use and cannot be accessed, or cannot be
                           found.
       NB. After checking for the file, I see that it is not present on my
            system, although the folks at DB2 support said it is on the
            CDROM version--so I wondered why it was not included with
            the zipped file downloads?

I have Warp 4 + FP12 and am trying to do a simple attended install
on this workstation (which happens to be connected by IBM Peer to
another workstation, with Warp 3). I have tried it with the Peer 
connection shut down, but still get the same result.

Any ideas?



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Plymouth, MN
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From: Kanderson@Kanderson.net                           06-Dec-99 13:04:11
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Approach

From: Ken Anderson <Kanderson@Kanderson.net>

Is anybody having trouble with Lotus Approach doing searches for
multiple fields after installing FP12?  It will search just fine for one
field but if you try more than that a window comes up saying "sorting
records" but it doesn't get past 50%.

TIA

Ken

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    06-Dec-99 22:08:05
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Lorne Sunley (lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca) wrote:

: On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:10:06, aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:

: > What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
: > various flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and
: > let me know.  Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.

: OS/2 2.11 4 to 16 Mbyte
: OS/2 3 8 to 16 Mbyte

	Sort of.  OS/2 2.11 never treated memory as well as Warp 3 did, 
at least that is what it says in the OS/2 Unleashed book.  OS/2 Warp 3 
with 4 MB of RAM the author said felt like OS/2 2.11 with 8 MB of RAM or 
something to that effect.  Something about Warp 3 handling memory much 
better than 2.X series.

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From: sfactual@erols.com                                06-Dec-99 17:46:04
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: Jon Schuck <sfactual@erols.com>

I use exact hardware with CFTwain and PMView.  It rules.

"A. Willard Reese" wrote:

> I'm considering buying a Yamaha  6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with
> an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11,
> system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup?  How
> about drivers for OS2?  What problems have been encountered, etc?  The
> price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't
> run in OS2.
> Thanks for any help,
> Willard

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    06-Dec-99 17:19:22
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article
<bHvq2TZKOoob-pn2-6WPOUcRhJMbz@slip-32-100-141-248.ia.us.prserv.net>,
Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock) wrote:
>Alan,
>
>Doesn't the 1542 have problems with > 16Mb due to its bus
>mastering? I seem to recall this from the time I installed
>OS/2 and was looking for a SCSI card. (actually I needed the
>SCSI card so I could install OS/2 from CD-ROM) I haven't
>done a backup to my Ext. SCSI Orb drive from OS/2 yet but
>running in NT a backup proceeded at about 10 Mb per minute.
>Maybe that is the best I can hope for with an ISA system and
>OS/2. If I can't get a significant performance boost from
>another SCSI card that it isn't worth doing at any price I
>guess.
>
>Dana

Yes, it does. A 16bit Busmastering controller will only (directly)
address the first 16Mb of system RAM. You can use the /DBUFF switch on
the device driver load to allow it to see more ram, but you'll see a
performance hit.

As far as ISA SCSI controllers ... you probably have the best your
going to get, now (with the 1502). Really not worth (and no real
advantage) to upgrading it, prvovided it works with everything you
have (or want to have) attached to it.

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*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    06-Dec-99 17:13:03
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 19:57:16
Subj: Re: Aldus Pagemaker 3.0: any comments?

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <384A6F71.20EEF24B@bmi.net>,
"W.N.(Bill) McCaw" <wnmccaw@bmi.net> wrote:
>In casting about for a good desktop publishing program, I see Aldus
>Pagemaker 3.0 offered from time to time on EBAY.  They usually go for
>$20-30.
>
>Is this a pretty competent program, similar to Pagemaker 6.0 under Win
>95?

I'm using Pagemaker 4.0 in a WinOS2 environment, and am VERY pleased
with it. I've not upgraded due to the fact that all the new versions
require Win95/98. But if I'm not mistaken, beginning with Pagemaker
5.0, the pages were "Frame Based" ... much like Quark Express always
has been. #.0 and 4.0 are still "Page Based".

>Does it produce pagemaker files that can be accepted by the newer
>Windows programs?

Not sure .... I have never tried to import a PM4 file into a newer
version. PM4 will open PM3 files, once you run a conversion on the PM3
file, and with the differences in how the page is laid out, now, I'd
have to guess that you'd at least have to run a conversion on the
file, if it was even possible to do.

>I make up copy for programs for a choral group, and can do pretty well
>with Word Pro, but it would be so much easier if the program had the
>capacity to make and move frames in tiny increments to balance the look
>of the page and so forth.

I started out with PM3, and found it very easy to use, and to learn.
PM4 is better, but either will do what you want. If you can find PM4,
I think you'll be happier with that version.

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*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
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*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        06-Dec-99 23:50:01
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:28
Subj: Re: OS/2 1.1

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <384C322F.AB9FA885@usa.net>, Nino <1979j@usa.net> writes:
>Hello All,
>
>my name's Nino and I am a student at the 'La Sapienza' university in
>Rome.
>I am preparing a research on the history of PC for my next exam. OS/2
>have
>a huge importance for the IBM PC compatible platform, I'd like to quote
>it
>largely, but unfortunately I miss what maybe is the most important
>version: OS/2 1.1, the first operating system for PC with a GUI, the
>first OS/2 with Presentation Manager.
>
>I would like to write an original article on it and take some
>screenshots of OS/2 1.1 with my camera.
>
>If someone please can supply me that version (which is, I suppose, about
>4 or 5 5.25 disks) I will be very grateful;

OS/2 v1.1 Extended Edition was my my first copy of OS/2 - it came on around
15-20 3.25 ins disks AFAICR. 

>really want my teachers
>give OS/2 the importance and the respect that it deserves. Thanks in
>advance
>
>I am sorry for any off-topic generated but I really need your help.
>
>Best regards,
>Nino Solazzo
>
>P.S. Please, answer me only if you have the 1.1 version. I am not a
>collector so I am not interested in any other 1.x versions. Thanks
>again.
>
>
>
>
--
John

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From: tonyi@attglobal.net                               06-Dec-99 19:15:28
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:28
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>

Warp 3 had a major page tuning effort done to it.  All aspects of the system
were reworked with respect to locked memory usage and working set.

However, IMO 2.11 is somewhat faster in unconstrained environments.

 Tony

John Hong <jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca> wrote in message
news:82hc4a$gdl$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
> Lorne Sunley (lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca) wrote:
>
> : On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:10:06, aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:
>
> : > What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
> : > various flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me
and
> : > let me know.  Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.
>
> : OS/2 2.11 4 to 16 Mbyte
> : OS/2 3 8 to 16 Mbyte
>
> Sort of.  OS/2 2.11 never treated memory as well as Warp 3 did,
> at least that is what it says in the OS/2 Unleashed book.  OS/2 Warp 3
> with 4 MB of RAM the author said felt like OS/2 2.11 with 8 MB of RAM or
> something to that effect.  Something about Warp 3 handling memory much
> better than 2.X series.
>


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From: spamtrap@cds-inc.com                              06-Dec-99 21:40:02
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:28
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: spamtrap@cds-inc.com (Brad Benson)

mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:

 - snip - 
] I think you should at least investigate BA2.  The creation disk may
] require some hand-holding from the tech support there.  They were very
] kind and supportive. By now, that may not be needed as they were going
] through what I found on the way down the pig trail..

Back Again/2 v4.0i had an all new utility for creating the boot disks,
stolen from the then-still-under-wraps Back Again/2000 product we
announced last month.  It made diskette creation much easier.

For BA/2000, we re-did the disaster recovery process completely.  The
utility diskette tool now updates Warp3 and Warp4 utility diskettes as
well as those created by BootOS2, and the disaster recovery HotStart
provides a wizard-like, mouse-driven interface to the disaster
recovery process.  

Last spring we took a survey of what people liked and didn't like
about BA/2; the disaster recovery process was the largest "wart".  It
worked pretty well, people said, but configuring the diskettes could
be maddening.  We worked extremely hard to simply the process with
this new thing.


Cheers,

Brad
replace "spamtrap" with "benson" in my reply address

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From: tholenAntiSpam@hawaii.edu                         06-Dec-99 23:40:17
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:28
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: tholenAntiSpam@hawaii.edu

A. Willard Reese wrote:

> I'm considering buying a Yamaha  6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with
> an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11,
> system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup?

I'm using a Yamaha 4x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW and an Adaptec PCI SCSI
interface card on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11 system.  Virtually identical to
your system.  Works great with the RSJ software.

> How about drivers for OS2?

No problem.

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From: cbloyd@compuserve.com                             06-Dec-99 16:03:06
  To: All                                               06-Dec-99 21:20:29
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: "Carroll Bloyd" <cbloyd@compuserve.com>

> OS/2 4.5 (WSeB) 64 to 128 Mbyte

I have Warp 3installed on one system (9533) and Warp 4 installed on two
systems (9577, 9595), but I've not heard of OS/2 4.5 (WSeB).  Is this the
Aurora server or something else?

Thanks,

Carroll



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From: isaacl@jazz.ece.ubc.ca                            07-Dec-99 00:23:00
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: isaacl@jazz.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Vlad Berditchevskiy (vlad@mail.netwave.de) wrote:
: On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:04:58, jondrake@melbpc.org.au wrote:

: > A simple question to this distinguished company - what's the best OS2 word 
processor.

: TeX. Everything else sucks.

For a text-mode system, I might agree with you. For a GUI capable system
such as OS/2+PM+WPS, I would vigorously disagree.

I have had to generate many large reports in the past with TeX. A lot of
the way things were done did not make sense, there were easier and better
ways.
For my thesis, I chose Word 6.0 (our department ran Win95 at the time). It
had some very annoying behaviour and terrible bugs compared with TeX.
However, I was able to complete my thesis and all other reports faster
than any of the other guys and it looked better to boot (readers opinions,
not mine).

I especially take offense to the fact that I have to essentially compiled
and debug a document. Compiling and debugging are best saved for programs.
In my experience to date, most of the arguments for TeX come from
unfamiliarity with semi-recent word processors. (I take the arguments
listed on www.lyx.org as a good example). I have looked at output from the
same printer from TeX, Postscript, Word, Smartsuite, PDF, whatever the
source happens to be. The QUALITY is indistinguishable, the only way I
know it is TeX is due to the fonts and layout used. (It's quite
distinctive once you have seen a few. You can even see which PS files have
been converted from DVI)

Admittedly, any TeX document that will compile cannot but look consistent
and pretty decent. This does not mean that it can't be easily achieved
(easier in fact) on a "standard" word processor. It's just that with a
standard word processor, it is just as easily goofed up by your avereage
user.


Isaac

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From: Tim Stephen@CIOS.ORG                              07-Dec-99 01:37:12
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: chkdsk on WSeB takes a long time

From: Tim Stephen@CIOS.ORG (Tim Stephen)

On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 06:13:50 -0500, Michael W. Cocke wrote:
>
> - what's broken?

My WSeB with that controller/driver combo takes 25 minutes to
chkdsk the disks after a hard reset.  That's a problem if you
need to get your system operational in a hurry after a glitch.
I think this operation should normally take less than half that
time.

Tim Stephen
CIOS

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               06-Dec-99 18:36:17
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Back Again/2000

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

Is it worthwhile getting the new version of Backagain which recently came out?



Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509


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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              07-Dec-99 02:02:06
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <384C6B2F.B87884BA@ibm.net>, Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net> writes:
>
>
>cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:
>
>> In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-poBtPxtySd7k@SPHERICALBURN.TAMPABAY.RR.COM>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
>> >On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:04:15, judithr@primenet.com a ‚crit dans un
message:
>> >
>> >> I use DeScribe for everything.  Depends on how much you want from a
>> >> word processor.  It's not great for Desktop publishing.
>>
>> Wonderful..... but what is the point of telling us about a software
>> program that is unavailable for purchase? Wasn't the request
>> for guidance in buying a good wordprocessor? If so Describe
>> is not an option.
>>
>> Keith Cotroneo
>> cotroneo@stny.rr.com
>
> You can still buy DeScribe from me. I have CD's (and the manual etc) for
DeScribe 5 and Voyager (includes Mesa).
>
>--
>------------------------------------------------------
>Bob McLellan
>The Little Blue Kiwi
>OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland
>
>

How much?

Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        07-Dec-99 02:04:09
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <384c52bd_1@news1.prserv.net>, "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>
writes:
>Warp 3 had a major page tuning effort done to it.  All aspects of the system
>were reworked with respect to locked memory usage and working set.
>
>However, IMO 2.11 is somewhat faster in unconstrained environments.

That was not my experience at all. OS/2 v3 was so much faster than v2+.
The kernel itself was greatly reduced so didn't take up so much memory.

> Tony
>
--
John

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From: fwkirk@ibm.net                                    07-Dec-99 01:37:14
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: TAXCUT99 WORKS IN WINOS2

From: fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:48:40, nospam_madbrain@thetaband.com wrote:

> I have also learned that only half of the state editions of Taxcut have
16-bit
> Win3.1 versions that will run in Win-OS/2; and the other half is only for
> 95/98/NT. So check with Kiplinger before buying the product to see if the
> edition you need has a 16-bit version.

Julien,

     Thanks for posting that information.  You've saved me a 
money/time/grief.  Drinks are on me!

FWK

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From: fwkirk@ibm.net                                    07-Dec-99 01:37:13
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: Dialer settings

From: fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk)

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:02:15, "Wolf Kirchmeir" <greywolf@onlink.net> 
wrote:

> On my system, when I right-click on the IBM Gloabl Network Dialer icon,
> shadow OR original, and then on Properties, I see the following tabs:
> 
> Identity / Phone / Service / Modem / Timeouts / Behaviour / Autostart /
> Updates / Logging / Tracing / SLIP / Program / Session / Association / Icon
/
> Window

Wolf,

     When I right click on the globe icon, I get:

     Program/Session/Association/Type/Become/Icon/File/Menu

     Like I told Doug, the settings notebook seems to have just 
disappeared, and I can't figure out why.

FWK

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From: fwkirk@ibm.net                                    07-Dec-99 01:37:12
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: Dialer settings

From: fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk)

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:54:21, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug 
Bissett) wrote:

> Reboot the system, and close all running programs (if any)-> Open an 
> OS/2 window session-> change directory to x:\TCPIP\BIN-> type "TCPDIAL
> /?" (no quotes, and all on one line, if this wraps)-> cancel or OK to 
> any popup windows, and close the help, which should leave you at the 
> dial window. Click Settings-> Settings notebook-> verify EVERY setting
> (I found a couple of things that didn't get listed as errors had also 
> changed). Close the settings, and use Network-> Exit to close the 
> dialer. Then reboot, immediately (I am not sure this is really 
> required, but do it anyway).

Doug,

     Thanks for the suggestions.  However, after  trying all that a 
few times, the settings notebook doesn't come up at all - nothing 
happens.  Apparently, it's just vanished.  If you have any other 
ideas, I'd appreciate them.  If not, I suppose it's time to 
uninstall/reinstall, which I'm wondering if it's worth the time since 
it didn't seem to help you.  I've temporarily gone back to Ver. 1.66 
(1.67?) & all works fine
     Like you, I don't have the foggiest idea what happened.  
     Thanks again.

FWK

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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      07-Dec-99 12:57:12
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Netscape 4.61 and screen lockups solution

From: "Khairil Yusof" <mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au>

This was bugging me for quite a while now on why after reloading 
Netscape sometimes, it would not load and the screen would freeze. 
Tried different pmmerge, display drivers etc.

Well.. it's something to do with the way PMMail/PMINews handles DDE 
links. So I disabled use of DDE links in both software and instead 
used netscdde which is part of the XFolder (now X Workplace) package 
and these problems have disappeared.

I'm not sure if it is a bug in NS or in PMMail/PMINews but netscdde 
works fine, I'm happy.


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From: jim.danvers@mindex.com                            06-Dec-99 21:50:07
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?

From: Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com>

Well I don't care what they say about you guys <grin>, ya'll seem to be
alright with me.  :)  I
guess that I should have been a little bit clearer when I referred to "the
problem" with OS/2
per Doug's earlier response - I was referencing "the Y2K" thing.  The
commercial apps (or lack
thereof, limitations / support, etc...) are all known quantities to me - I'm
unaware of "common
knowledge, or speculation on expected behaviour" of OS/2 post Jan. 1 '00
though. Hadn't thought
about it until Doug's post.  {shrug shoulders}

All in the info and guidance that you folks continue to provide is really
greatly appreciated!
Thanks much folks!

/* ... and now for a little OS/2 "humor" that I've sorta picked from lurking
in these groups:

I guess that I'm glad that there is no-one named "Tholen" or "Kelly" who have
chimed in (yet)!
(ducking!)
Maybe I'll regret this statement.....    :(  <grin>  */

-=- J.D. -=-

Will Rose wrote:

> [headers trimmed]
>
> In comp.os.os2.apps Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com> wrote:
> : Doug. Lorne, et all...
>
> : Outstanding.  Thanks for the help and info.  The fixpack / device driver
fix packs split
> : more or lesss clears that one up.  (I was wondering about the "dd"
fixes... )
>
> : Doug:  What exactly (if ~exactly~ can be defined...) will be "the problem" 
with respect to
> : OS/2?  Are there known issues with it that are going to be more effectual
(in a negative
> : manner) on an OS/2 platformed box than on an MS based one (any variant of
9x - NT)?  Known
> : issues in a ~positive~ manner?
>
> OS/2 is pretty mature and solid - however, it lacks device drivers for
> modern and peculiar equipment (IBM still produces upgrades for common
> stuff) and IBM really dislikes home OS/2 users.  (They aren't too keen
> on commercial OS/2 users, either).  This lends a certain spice ...
>
> Hobbes is major OS/2 resource; get the Hobbes CDROM(s) from Walnut
> Creek, tho' that is (AFAIK) a slightly different set of files to
> the currrent Hobbes.  Anyway, the current version is essential.
>
> The weak heel of OS/2, so far as there is one, is its .ini files.
> On FAT they are a real pain; run HPFS file systems, with a small
> C: partition for any MS stuff that _must_ be on FAT.  However,
> they still need cleaning out from time to time, and there are
> several freeware utilities that will do this.  I use the commercial
> Unimaint, which is clunky but worth the money.
>
> The other thing that needs maintenance/archiving is the desktop. If
> that gets blown away, it's a pain to restore.  Again, I use Unimaint
> for this; DeskMan/2 is better, but desktops are all it does.  There's
> probably freeware stuff as well.
>
> A process-killer like Process Commander used to be essential, and is
> still nice to have; PC won't run out of the box on Warp 4 FP 12, but
> you can get it to run - there are also a lot of freeware process
> killers around.
>
> Finally, there are several backup solutions.  I use BA/2 Pro with a 4G
> T4 (on an all-SCSI machine) and like it, tho' its catalog handling could
> be improved.
>
> Note that OS/2 will handle Windows stuff pretty well, _execept_ for the
> most recent Win32; MS managed to break Win-OS2 after several attempts,
> and IBM haven't tried to fix it.
>
> As far as Fixpacks are concerned, I ran Warp 3.0 FP 22 until a month
> or two ago when I upgraded to FP 40: the machine did all I wanted it
> to.  OS/2 3.0 and 4.0 are pretty stable after the first few fixpacks.
> (Note that fixpack numbers jump - 5 to 9 to 17 to 22, as I recall,
> for 3.0.  The "missing" fixpacks are IBM internal release only).
>
> You _must_ check the .de site (named elsewhere in this thread, and I
> can't find my reference) for Fixpack applicability outside the base
> OS.   Finding the relevant fixpack is otherwise a nightmare.
>
> Oh, and for OS/2 software, check Indelible Blue first.
>
> Will
> cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            07-Dec-99 02:54:22
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <384c2c2b.1980027@picard.cds-inc.com>, spamtrap@cds-inc.com (Brad Benson)
writes:
>mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:
>
> - snip - 
>] I think you should at least investigate BA2.  The creation disk may
>] require some hand-holding from the tech support there.  They were very
>] kind and supportive. By now, that may not be needed as they were going
>] through what I found on the way down the pig trail..
>
>Back Again/2 v4.0i had an all new utility for creating the boot disks,
>stolen from the then-still-under-wraps Back Again/2000 product we
>announced last month.  It made diskette creation much easier.
>
>For BA/2000, we re-did the disaster recovery process completely.  The
>utility diskette tool now updates Warp3 and Warp4 utility diskettes as
>well as those created by BootOS2, and the disaster recovery HotStart
>provides a wizard-like, mouse-driven interface to the disaster
>recovery process.  
>
>Last spring we took a survey of what people liked and didn't like
>about BA/2; the disaster recovery process was the largest "wart".  It
>worked pretty well, people said, but configuring the diskettes could
>be maddening.  We worked extremely hard to simply the process with
>this new thing.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Brad
>replace "spamtrap" with "benson" in my reply address

Thanks Brad.  As I said, you folks were kind, extremely responsive and
walked us through the pig trail when we did need you.  If you've
simplified the process as you said, that's much what we needed back
when.

In the long run, the thing any company like your's has to offer is not
only a product, but an interactive customer interface that does two
things, as I see it.  Once you have a product that fills a need:

     1.) Listen to the customers.

     2.) Make the product better.

In the long run, if you can't use a tape to do the whole job to
re-create a box that has gone bye-bye, and do it easily, for the average
person whom needs the help, neither your product, nor any competitor of
yours that won't do that - has anything.

As we noted over the phone, that's not easy to keep up with, when the
driver and hardware folks keep handing you a constantly moving target
which you are expected to hit .. in advance .. :)

In the long run - kindness done may not be remembered by all, but some
of us do and thank you in whatever way we can.

May the lights shine on all of us for another year in this maddness!

--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org

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From: areese@bestnetpc.com                              07-Dec-99 03:47:04
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Long file names

From: areese@bestnetpc.com (A. Willard Reese)

	Can someone tell me how I can get long filenames (with spaces in
them) from Win95 FAT16 partition to OS2 on an HPFS partition on the
same hard drive. 
	I have a cdrom with over 150 *.TIF files with long filenames that OS2
refuses to read.  Win95 reads them and downloads them just fine into a
FAT partition.  If I copy them from the Fat partition into OS2 all the
filenames are truncated (xxxxx~1.tif). Is there any  way that I can
copy these files, with the long filenames intact, from that FAT
partition into OS2 without renaming every file?
	I'm appreciative of any help or suggestions you might offer.  I'm
really stumped.
Willard

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From: tonyi@attglobal.net                               06-Dec-99 23:06:28
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>

*UNCONSTRAINED*

When Warp was released, few if any machines had enough memory to run
unconstrained save for a few high end servers and such.  32M of memory was
virtually unheard of at the time.

 Tony

John Poltorak <jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk> wrote in message
news:384c6b22.0@katana.legend.co.uk...
> In <384c52bd_1@news1.prserv.net>, "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>
writes:
> >Warp 3 had a major page tuning effort done to it.  All aspects of the
system
> >were reworked with respect to locked memory usage and working set.
> >
> >However, IMO 2.11 is somewhat faster in unconstrained environments.
>
> That was not my experience at all. OS/2 v3 was so much faster than v2+.
> The kernel itself was greatly reduced so didn't take up so much memory.
>
> > Tony
> >
> --
> John


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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             07-Dec-99 03:06:01
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: Back Again/2000

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

Why not download the evaluation version and try it.   
http://www.cds-inc.com/prodinfo/ba2000.html
I like it.  Seems more stable then BA/2 Pro which is what I have run 
for three years now.    The server version will support JFS and 
selective ACL restores.  The new wizard is kind of lame, doesn't 
display network drives, but you can still back those up using a SET or
by doing a regular backup.   

I may get the Server version this time if they accept the upgrade from
BA/2 Pro 4.0.  

Mark

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:36:35, "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>
wrote:

-)Is it worthwhile getting the new version of Backagain which recently came
out?
-)
-)
-)
-)Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
-)
-)

--

---------------------------------------------------------
 From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
             Healthcare Computer Consultant
                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel

  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
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From: whonea@codenet.net                                06-Dec-99 21:50:27
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 04:45:13, Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana 
Hartsock) wrote:

> Hope you saw the note posted to this NG earlier. With the 
> 1542 bus-mastering, OS/2 can only use the first 16 Mb of 
> memory, the rest is used as a fast a fast swap area. That 
> jibes with what I
> "thought" I remembered.

The DBUFF parameter on the device= line pretty well takes care of that
concern.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: josco@ibm.net                                     06-Dec-99 22:14:18
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: OS/2 1.1

From: Joseph <josco@ibm.net>


John Poltorak wrote:

> In <384C322F.AB9FA885@usa.net>, Nino <1979j@usa.net> writes:
> >Hello All,
> >
> >I would like to write an original article on it and take some
> >screenshots of OS/2 1.1 with my camera.
> >
> >If someone please can supply me that version (which is, I suppose, about
> >4 or 5 5.25 disks) I will be very grateful;
>
> OS/2 v1.1 Extended Edition was my my first copy of OS/2 - it came on around
> 15-20 3.25 ins disks AFAICR.

OS/2 EE was the higher end edition of OS/2 for database and server work (most
like Windows NT Advance Server was to the Windows NT Workstation) OS/2 EE
would
be many more disks.

I have long discarded my OS/2 1.0 and 1.1 disks.  I recall two sleeves to hold
them in the IBM manual.  I guess 1.1 would be under or near 8 disks

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From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com                      07-Dec-99 05:09:23
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock)

Stop Mike, you are scaring me! (G)
 
The /DBUFF switch caught my interest too... but the feel of 
the conversation here is there probably is not enough 
performance gain going from the 1520 to the 1542 to bother. 
I note it took about 30 seconds to copy a 10 Mb file from my
ATA hard drive to my Ext. SCSI Orb. I think I better learn 
to be happy with what I have.

Dana

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:57:28, mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:

> In <bHvq2TZKOoob-pn2-6WPOUcRhJMbz@slip-32-100-141-248.ia.us.prserv.net>,
Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock) writes:
> >Alan,
> 
> >Doesn't the 1542 have problems with > 16Mb due to its bus 
> >mastering? I seem to recall this from the time I installed 
> >OS/2 and was looking for a SCSI card. (actually I needed the
> >SCSI card so I could install OS/2 from CD-ROM) I haven't 
> >done a backup to my Ext. SCSI Orb drive from OS/2 yet but 
> >running in NT a backup proceeded at about 10 Mb per minute. 
> >Maybe that is the best I can hope for with an ISA system and
> >OS/2. If I can't get a significant performance boost from 
> >another SCSI card that it isn't worth doing at any price I 
> >guess.
> >
> >Dana
> 
> Dana .. there are other reasons you might want to get a 1542C and add it
> in your box in trying to stretch the funds even longer into the future
> with using a later model faster drive the 1520 will not support!
> 
> I'll be glad to learn of the /DBUFF undocumented switch.  I never knew
> it as well, so am reading this thread carefully.
> 
> We all do things with old equipment as long as we think we can, large
> sly grin.  I'm still using an Adaptec 1542C in a fully ISA 20 slot
> industrial case with a 486133 ACM converter chip and 32MB of memory.  It
> runs a flock of low-speed level telecommunications applications and a
> HUB plus phone-line BBS system which I have to maintain as a private
> port.  Just to show you how bad off we keep things, recently I had to
> have drive space, so I chunked a new Seagate Barracuda 9.1Gig drive in
> it and used Drive Copy by Partition Magic to clone off the old system on
> the new drive.
> 
> Sure, performance is a DOG compared to an Adaptec 2940UW or, .. and the
> final results aren't in on this one yet with OS/2 .. a 2940U2W which I
> have in the house for testing now.
> 
> This box is a Warp 4.0 box at FixPack Level 8.  It's the latest one that
> has been offered which doesn't break something else that we need while
> it fixes something else we could do without..  I think!  At any rate it
> appears totally stable for all we really have to do at the moment.
> That's important, because the SCSI hard disk driver with FP8, seems to
> have fixed or been compatible with all the mix of trash we have around
> on various boxes .. except .. for tape backup software compatibility
> with the latest Adaptec 2940U2W card I mentioned above and any of the
> other boxes which I attempted to use with an embedded mother board 7970
> Adaptec chip set, I think it was called.
> 
> I've yet to be able to clean up all the mess with those two options with
> the FixPack Level 8 SCSI Adaptec driver, and the later ones are too big
> to fit on the floppy disk set for the utility disks without a lot of
> gerrymandering to carve down the loader level of drivers to get both a
> reliable utility disk set as well as a disk set that will let us go
> forward with a universal solution for the new 2940U2W and embedded dual
> channel, but not dual hardware channel stuff.
> 
> So far, and this may be all important to you .. the 1542C Adaptec card
> with a >= version number 931 chipset on the LSI controller chip for that
> card, appear to be working with the Seagate 9.1G drive for what it was
> able to both low-level prep and verify which is some 8.6 GB seen with a
> total of NINE (9) separate paritions that were needed for a reason I
> didn't create..
> 
> You seem equipticulate, to coin a phrase.  I'll pass on what all else I
> stumbled across so far which hasn't failed, in playing at what you wish
> to play.
> 
> Be absolutely *SURE* you understand what the port setting, IRQ settings,
> and so on are all about when you go to use this card.  It is absolutely
> critical that you know what ports are in use, what IRQ's are in use and
> what DMA channels are in use in you box and do not set the switches for
> this controller in conflict with other stuff.  If you have a simple box,
> the standard settings may be just fine.  Be aware that you can get in
> trouble easily if your sound card IRQ and I/O port, as well as the GAME
> PORT for your sound card are in conflict.  Many GAME PORT settings use
> port 330 or 300 for that port.  It can cause trouble if you have a
> conflict here and I think may be overlooked by the newbie at all this
> with an older box.
> 
> Another trap is the I/O port and the IRQ which is used for your Network
> Interface Card.  The older ISA cards that I've seen in the grand 2000
> series stuff I've always used seem to initially favor port 340 and IRQ 5
> if my memory is correct.  Aside from the well-know fight that goes on
> between the sound card and the network card which seems to cause a lot
> of people grief in finding, this can also grab you when you get to
> choose the I/O setup for the 1542C card!  We also have a packet TNC
> controller in the ham world in older equipment floating around that uses
> only port 300 and 330 for an I/O which can mean you either get a
> controller, 1542C and sound with no game port on it, or else.. if you
> can see what I mean.
> 
> Per my experience in boxes which almost always seem to wind up with
> every IRQ full .. I've found that letting the sound card keep IRQ 5
> seems safer than some other choices.  I let it use the standard port 220
> for sound and the game port of 330 or 300 .. *BUT* .. only after I have
> made up my mind which of those two I might need or want for a 1542C!
> Then for the NIC card, I have found I wind up on port 340 for it and IRQ
> 10 on most boxes.  That leaves IRQ 9 or another one for the 1542C.  Of
> course IRQ 1, 6, 13 and, typically 14 are gone for other reasons.  Some
> boxes and video stuff won't play for the 1542C with IRQ 9, but my
> industrial card systems do.  Since I've already lost 4, 3, 12 and 15 ..
> or 4, 3, 11 and 15 to all four serial ports, that leaves me only IRQ 9
> or another choice to swap it for the 1542C as well.
> 
> That's assuming you don't still need that 1520 for another kludge reason
> down the road.  Do *NOT* throw it away.  Here is why!
> 
> In the testing for this new Seagate 9.1Gig Barracuda, I stumbled onto a
> curious fact!  Although I can get the Segate stable as a LVD device used
> backwards on this 1542C controller with a 68-pin to 50-pin cable to
> device adapter, it will *NOT* play with the Travan 4GB or Colorado
> Memory Systems 2.4GB SCSI tape backup drive on the same cable!  The
> 1542C seems fully able to host this drive in the older environment, but
> *NOT* with any for-real non-wide 50-pin device bridged on the cable
> that feeds some of these fast-fast-faster drives!
> 
> I got through the Partition Magic Drive Copy process, with a totally
> HPFS system just fine.  Come time to see the tape drive - kaplooyee.
> Thus, in this case, I had to do much like you may have to do in the
> future.  I went out and got an old 1510 Adaptec and stuck the tape drive
> on it as a separate controller!  Whole system came to life!  Sure, it
> takes another I/O port and another IRQ for that second simpler
> controller, but .. hey .. I'm trying to keep you going on what you have
> and can get for cheap - cheap - cheap.  Like the little birdy sez!
> 
> Two last little warm fuzzy notes that may save you countless heartaches.
> On termination, please note that as the drive performance goeth up, so
> goeth the requirement that your termination be absolutely right.  The
> new LVD drives, although they seem, so far, to be working fine with the
> old 1542C, *MUST* have an EXTERNAL TERMINATOR on the END of the drive
> cable that supports it.  It is an ACTIVE TERNINATOR, even though it be
> on a 50-pin cable and you are using a 50-pin cable to 68-pin device
> adapter to run the new big drive!  The new drive goes one cable slot
> down on the cable from the end which now has the terminator..
> 
>                 *OR ELSE*   *IN MY HUMBLED EXPERIENCE*
> 
> 
> As well, if you go out and buy a biggee drive and have the FixPack 8 level
> driver installed and on your Utility disks along with the required HPFS
> upgraded CHKDSK to use, you will, I think find out that you have to
> pretty much have HPFS to remain solvent in this biz for your drives.  I
> tried the FAT deal but went nuts keeping up with it and the crashes.
> 
> My life got a *LOT* nicer when I converted to HPFS .. totally.  If you
> begin cloning little drives into bigger ones etc, ad infinitum, you'll
> discover that without everything being in HPFS, life comes to an end as
> soon as the first 1024 cylinders in a drive do not come to an end!!  I
> still have Partition Magic for DOS and OS/2 version 2 which was good
> enough to convert all my old drive smaller stuff to HPFS, get running,
> then use them to clone up to bigger HPFS drives.  If you are using
> Partition Magic to convert the partitions, be absolutely SURE that you
> take note of the requirement to have the HPFS loader in your CONFIG.SYS
> file before you do the job and to run, I think it's SYSINST or whatever
> from a set of Utility disks on a freshly converted partition before you
> go to boot the thing for the first time.
> 
> Yes, a good set of Utility disks is a must.
> 
> Taken all together, this may help you get a lot further with your quest.
> As well, I'll be greatful to learn what this /DBUFF undocumented switch
> is an where it goes.
> 
> The only thing I have noticed with the new super large drive is that it
> seems much more sensitive to being stopped by power failures on this
> older controller,  It comes up with a "Drive not shut down properly
> error.." of some kind I never have seen before.
> 
> I discovered that to cure that, I had to boot to the command line with
> ALT F1, or use the Utility disks.  If I just use the ALT F1 and then let
> it do it's own check on drive C, then hand check each of the other
> partitions with the /F procedure, it will clean up the whole thing.
> 
> I have yet to resolve whether that is a flaw in this whole setup of
> using the LVD backwards against the 1542C, or is actually a result of
> one of the old DOS-VDM applications doing some unknown form of TSR
> driven disk I/O that I have just inherited and did not know about for
> all these years.  That is, until I went to the LVD backwards step
> against the 1542C controller...
> 
> All in the name of doing with what we have and for cheap ..
> 
> Yours in faith .. :)
> 
> 
> --> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)
> 
> Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
> Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org
> 


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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              07-Dec-99 05:16:26
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: Re: Long file names

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


"A. Willard Reese" wrote:
> 
>         I have a cdrom with over 150 *.TIF files with long filenames that
OS2
> refuses to read.  Win95 reads them and downloads them just fine into a
> FAT partition.  If I copy them from the Fat partition into OS2 all the
> filenames are truncated (xxxxx~1.tif). Is there any  way that I can
> copy these files, with the long filenames intact, from that FAT
> partition into OS2 without renaming every file?
>
  You may need to get a recent version of the CDROM driver for os/2, the
one that adds Joliet support. Or maybe you just need to add the /w
switch to the existing driver:

ifs=c:\os2\cdfs.ifs /w

  Or you could archive them in Windows, using PKZIP, and unzip them in
os/2....

-- 

sma at rtd dot com
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From: wdlkhl@attglobal.net                              06-Dec-99 21:57:00
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:18
Subj: *.snm oddities? in Comm 4.61

From: Wm D Loughman <wdlkhl@attglobal.net>

Peeking into Comm 4.61's Mail directory, I find an ever-increasing
number of "  *.snm  " files in there _without_ corresponding "  *.  "
files.  These all have names like T???????.snm, where the " ? " are
mixed letters and characters, and range in size from 2560 to 16384
bytes.  Sometimes (always?) they show in the window which shows Mail
"folders".  I tried deleting one, from _within_ Comm461 - and got a
system 'freeze' for my trouble, with a consequent C-A-D reboot (Watchcat
couldn't help).

What's going on?  I always assumed (w/o certain knowledge)  the *.snm
contained info designating message boundaries within a 'folder'.  How
can one have "  *.snm  " w/o corresponding "  *.  "??

Why are they there?  Why so many?  Presently, there are 20 'solo' files
totalling 108Kb.  Why don't they get cleaned out?  Renaming them, eg
T... -> X... , seems not to harm anything, but.....?

WD "Bill" Loughman       "The problem with the gene pool: no lifeguard."
Berkeley, California  USA
wdlkhl@attglobal.net

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From: dave@david-lister.co.uk                           07-Dec-99 07:06:13
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Linkwiz

From: dave@david-lister.co.uk

Hi,

I recently posted a few queries about Linkwiz. I "officially" have v2.52
but was sent v3.03 by PCX support about a year ago when I was having
problems that they couldn't seem to fix.

However, I haven't ever really used v3.03 because it doesn't synchronise
properly on my equipment.  What happens is that, after new or updated
files have been sent from the host computer, I get strange DosPathError
messages on the remote computer which point to none existant paths (on
both computers).

I would like to start using v3.03 as it appears much faster than v2.52.

However, PCX seem to have disappeared! Their website is no longer there
and I have tried telephoning them 3 times. Their phone still appears
connected but all I get are automated messages - but no one picking up the
phone!!

Has anyone had similar problems with v3.03? If so, did you fix them??
Anyone know what's happened to PCX??? 

Dave Lister
-------------------------------------------------------------
dave@david-lister.co.uk                                    

David Lister Accountancy Services
http://www.david-lister.co.uk
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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     07-Dec-99 07:40:26
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

> Now the problem.  Actually it's two.

Actually, you were right the first time; both of those are
one single problem with the font selection.  Your system
is not displaying the Courier New font (either it wasn't
installed, usually because you didn't install Win-OS/2, or
it isn't supported by your video driver), so you should go
to Edit->Preferences, select Fonts, and change the Fixed
Width font to Courier instead.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: s135989@studenti.ing.unipi.it                     07-Dec-99 09:26:29
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: Mentore #cat# Siesto <s135989@studenti.ing.unipi.it>

On 6 Dec 1999 tholenAntiSpam@hawaii.edu wrote:

+A. Willard Reese wrote:
+
+> I'm considering buying a Yamaha  6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with
+> an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11,
+> system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup?
+
+I'm using a Yamaha 4x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW and an Adaptec PCI SCSI
+interface card on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11 system.  Virtually identical to
+your system.  Works great with the RSJ software.
+
I got a Yamaha 6416 SCSI connected to an Adaptec UW 2940 adapter. It works
really fine with CDRecord /2 1.8a24b and newer releases. And it's fast,
too!

Mentore

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From: mail@ridax.se                                     07-Dec-99 08:48:28
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Remote Access to OS/2 (eg. MS NetMeeting)

From: mail@ridax.se (Mikael Wahlgren)

:>> Several, NetOp, PolyPM/2 (aka RSM), Netfinity.

:>Is this the PM2You of many years ago, or based on it?
:>I never used it but I seem to remember that it did something similar.

No, it is not the same...  PM2You is still updated and marketed at the web
page http://ridax.nu

It will allow you to remote control the OS/2 Desktop from any Java platform
(including browsers).  Now, you can also use dial-up modem connection (without
underlying PPP/SLIP) from any machine, using Java.  Of course there are native
OS/2 and Windows clients as well (and a Windows host).

Mikael Wahlgren - mail@ridax.se
Ridax programutveckling - PM2You/OS2You Remote Control for OS/2
FTP 194.52.57.138 - http://welcome.to/ridax
WIN2You - Remote Control for Windows 95/NT

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From: mail@ridax.se                                     07-Dec-99 08:57:07
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Remote Access to OS/2 (eg. MS NetMeeting)

From: mail@ridax.se (Mikael Wahlgren)

:>browser. Just type in an URL and voila - it works. Another nice feature is
:>that the service is run via standard HTTP protocol, guaranteed to be routed
:>across _any_ proper network setup: NAT firelwall, proxy, SOCKS, etc. This is
:>usually not true for other similar packages (like NetOp or PM2You).

This is not true.  PM2You also has a Java client, that makes it possible for
you to remotely control the OS/2 desktop from an ordinary Java enabled browser
(like Netscape or IE).  If you use this Java client, you can select to use the
standard HTTP protocol, making it completely HTTP compliant.

I am not sure if you have understood the real problem with proxy and
firewalls.  The most common problem (according to my experience) in this case,
is that the HOST (the machine you want to control) is behind a firewall, and
THAT is not solved simply by complying to the HTTP protocol, and I think most
security admins are happy with that, otherwise the firewall would be rather
meaningless.

Mikael Wahlgren - mail@ridax.se
Ridax programutveckling - PM2You/OS2You Remote Control for OS/2
http://ridax.nu
WIN2You - Remote Control for Windows 95/NT

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From: martin.schaffoener@student.uni-m...               07-Dec-99 12:41:29
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: DB2/PE

Message sender: martin.schaffoener@student.uni-magdeburg.de

From: martin.schaffoener@student.uni-magdeburg.de (Martin Schaff”ner)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:00:56, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote:

> Has anyone tried the DB2 Personal Edition from the IBM d/l site?
> 
> When I tried to install it, it complained about the db2.rsp file being 
> missing, and quit. 
> 
> Is it a faulty program package, or have I missed something?
> 
I am not sure if this is your problem.  For some packages, IBM uses 
pkzip, not infozip.  Pkzip has a 'shrink' compression method 
(appearantly for ascii files) which infozips unzip does not support 
due to patent reasons.  Maybe you should unzip the files using 
pkunzip2, found in the <bootdrive>:\ibmcom directory.  I don't 
remember what I did to install it, but it worked for me.

CU/2,

Martin Schaff”ner

Suzuki GS650G Katana
OS/2 Warp 4 with FixPak 11
There are currently 32 processes
with 168 threads active.
This machine's uptime 1h 38min 4sec.

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From: tvoltagg@home.com                                 07-Dec-99 12:09:10
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Quicken Online Banking

From: tvoltagg@home.com

Does anyone use Quicken 98 and do Online Banking under win-os/2?
I'm having a heck of a time trying to access this.  It works fine
in Win95.  Please post or email me.

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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                07-Dec-99 12:23:02
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: Aldus Pagemaker 3.0: any comments?

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:58:09, "W.N.(Bill) McCaw" 
<wnmccaw@bmi.net> wrote:

îI make up copy for programs for a choral group, and can do pretty well
îwith Word Pro, but it would be so much easier if the program had the
îcapacity to make and move frames in tiny increments to balance the look
îof the page and so forth. 

Why do you think that you can't move frames in tiny 
increments with Wordpro? Hint: Look under 'Placement' in the
'Frame Properties' settings.

I used to use Ventura Publisher under WinOS/2 to do all of 
my page layout (technical manuals). Now, except for the rare
loong, complicated manual that requires a huge amount of 
automatic cross referencing, I can do almost everything in 
Wordpro (about 95% of my work, these days).




________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

To send email - remove the `yyy'
________________________________________________________

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From: cocke@catherders.com                              07-Dec-99 07:57:12
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 12:14:19
Subj: Re: chkdsk on WSeB takes a long time

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>

Something doesn't sound right.  I have a combined total of 20 Gb on a 
2940U2W in one of my WSeB systems - chkdsk takes about 4 minutes.



On 7 Dec 1999 01:37:25 GMT, Tim Stephen wrote:

>On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 06:13:50 -0500, Michael W. Cocke wrote:
>>
>> - what's broken?
>
>My WSeB with that controller/driver combo takes 25 minutes to
>chkdsk the disks after a hard reset.  That's a problem if you
>need to get your system operational in a hurry after a glitch.
>I think this operation should normally take less than half that
>time.
>
>Tim Stephen
>CIOS
>

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2000.
                     The new email address is cocke@catherders.com   
                      The web page is at http://www.catherders.com

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From: csaba_r@my-deja.com                               07-Dec-99 12:47:17
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:18
Subj: Re: Long file names

From: csaba_r@my-deja.com (Csaba Raduly)

areese@bestnetpc.com (A. Willard Reese) wrote in
<0r%24.16654$Tp.686005@typ11.nn.bcandid.com>: 

>     Can someone tell me how I can get long filenames (with spaces
>     in 
>them) from Win95 FAT16 partition to OS2 on an HPFS partition on the
>same hard drive. 
>     I have a cdrom with over 150 *.TIF files with long filenames
>     that OS2 
>refuses to read.  Win95 reads them and downloads them just fine into
>a FAT partition.  If I copy them from the Fat partition into OS2 all
>the filenames are truncated (xxxxx~1.tif). Is there any  way that I
>can copy these files, with the long filenames intact, from that FAT
>partition into OS2 without renaming every file?
>     I'm appreciative of any help or suggestions you might offer. 
>     I'm 
>really stumped.
>Willard
>
>

Can't you read the CD in OS/2 (remember the /W switch for CDFS.IFS)
Failing that, zip the tifs with WinZip or something similar, then copy 
the zipfile to OS/2. InfoZip's unzip can restore long filenames on 
HPFS.

Csaba
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From: spamtrap@cds-inc.com                              07-Dec-99 14:09:25
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:18
Subj: Re: Back Again/2000

From: spamtrap@cds-inc.com (Brad Benson)

madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel) wrote:
 - snip -
]  The new wizard is kind of lame, doesn't 
] display network drives, but you can still back those up using a SET or
] by doing a regular backup.   

Do you feel that the ability to select network drives from the
HotStart would be a big improvement?  It's easy enough to do; if
there's demand for it, that's a change I can easily push through.


Cheers,

Brad
replace "spamtrap" with "benson" in my reply address

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              07-Dec-99 15:00:20
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:18
Subj: Browser only

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>

Hello,
    I am looking for an HTML rendering program. Currently the only ones
I have found are part of other programs such as Netscpae Navigator. More
and more documentation is being written in HTML and I would like to have
a way of viewing it without having to start Navigator (or whatever) and
all its overhead just to read a few pages of text. There is no need for
networking; all the docs are local.


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com                      07-Dec-99 15:29:01
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:18
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana Hartsock)

As much as I appreciate how well OS/2 multitasks I really 
don't like to do so while I'm doing a backup. I'm just a 
little afraid of something happening to the integrity of my 
backup. Maybe a little paranoid but I feel safer.

On the other hand the superd multitasking of OS/2 is why my 
old system is still very useful for me.

Dana

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:07:51, Alan Beagley 
<abeagley@optonline.net> wrote:

> But can you do anything else while a backup is running? That is why I am
> planning to try a 1542: with an ancient Trantor ISA-bus SCSI card (only
> 8-bit, admittedly) backups run fine, but they take 90+ percent of the
> CPU time, and I can't do anything else while a backup is running.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> Dana Hartsock wrote:
>  
> <snip>
> 
> > ... but the feel of
> > the conversation here is there probably is not enough
> > performance gain going from the 1520 to the 1542 to bother.
> > I note it took about 30 seconds to copy a 10 Mb file from my
> > ATA hard drive to my Ext. SCSI Orb. I think I better learn
> > to be happy with what I have.
> >


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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            07-Dec-99 15:07:25
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

But can you do anything else while a backup is running? That is why I am
planning to try a 1542: with an ancient Trantor ISA-bus SCSI card (only
8-bit, admittedly) backups run fine, but they take 90+ percent of the
CPU time, and I can't do anything else while a backup is running.

Alan


Dana Hartsock wrote:
 
<snip>

> ... but the feel of
> the conversation here is there probably is not enough
> performance gain going from the 1520 to the 1542 to bother.
> I note it took about 30 seconds to copy a 10 Mb file from my
> ATA hard drive to my Ext. SCSI Orb. I think I better learn
> to be happy with what I have.
>

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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            07-Dec-99 17:43:16
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: DB2/PE

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <c1.2c.2T9N6M$06a@bozo.pro-ns.net>, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net writes:
>In <384C0FBF.51BABA03@ca.ibm.com>, Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> writes:
>>	Everything should work - it was fairly extensively tested here at the
>>lab, and numerous people have downloaded and successfully installed it
>>off the net.  If you can provide some details as to how you initiated
>>the install, I'd be happy to help however I can.
>>
>>Brad BARCLAY
>>DB2 for OS/2 Install Team Lead.
>
>Here's what I did:
>    1) d/l'd peen.zip (32.8 mb) and pecmn.zip(40.3 mb) from the IBM
>        web site.
>    2) unzipped both files in an empty directory--h:\db2inst
>    3) shifted to the empty directory
>    4) typed install, and pressed <ENTER>
>
>and here's what I got:
>    1) IBM logo-auto timed advance to next window
>    2) Welcome Window-press Continue
>    3) Installation Window-select DB2 PE radio button, press Continue
>    4) Popup error message:
>
>              EPFIE188:  The file ('h:\db2inst\db2\en\install\db2.rsp')
>                           is in use and cannot be accessed, or cannot be
>                           found.
>       NB. After checking for the file, I see that it is not present on my
>            system, although the folks at DB2 support said it is on the
>            CDROM version--so I wondered why it was not included with
>            the zipped file downloads?
>
>I have Warp 4 + FP12 and am trying to do a simple attended install
>on this workstation (which happens to be connected by IBM Peer to
>another workstation, with Warp 3). I have tried it with the Peer 
>connection shut down, but still get the same result.
>
>Any ideas?

After trying everything all over again from the beginning, it looks like
the peen.zip file got corrupted during the d/l--so I am going to get
another d/l for this file, and try again.

Will post the results here.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Dec-99 18:26:22
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: How do I install fixpack 11 ?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 02:50:14, Jim Danvers <jim.danvers@mindex.com> 
wrote:

> Well I don't care what they say about you guys <grin>, ya'll seem to be
alright with me.  :)  I
> guess that I should have been a little bit clearer when I referred to "the
problem" with OS/2
> per Doug's earlier response - I was referencing "the Y2K" thing.  The
commercial apps (or lack
> thereof, limitations / support, etc...) are all known quantities to me - I'm 
unaware of "common
> knowledge, or speculation on expected behaviour" of OS/2 post Jan. 1 '00
though. Hadn't thought
> about it until Doug's post.  {shrug shoulders}
>  
> All in the info and guidance that you folks continue to provide is really
greatly appreciated!
> Thanks much folks!
> 

Sorry I didn't get back earlier, but I have been "offline" for a day.

I have no idea what, if anything, the "Y2K" bug will, or will not do. 
I do know, that OS/2 (with fix packs) has been qualified by various 
organizations as being Y2K ready, for some time now. I am not sure 
that any Windows product has been given an unqualified ready rating, 
even now.

There are many possibilities for problems in the year 2000. Some of 
the more common are:
-The system date may revert to 1980 (if the BIOS is not ready), and 
may need to be set to 2000 manually on boot.
-I think that most of the Operating System problems are in the file 
dates, and sorting on dates area.
-User programs, that only store two digits for the year, and then 
assume the century to be 19, will have problems. (This can happen with
a Y2K ready program, such as a database, if the databse programmer did
something stupid like only keeping two digits, and assuming the 
century is 19).
-Some programs (such as word processors) may insert an incorrect date.
-Some programs (like all Netscape versions older than 4.04) will have 
problems (there is a tip that the verisign dtabase need to be updated,
since it times out at the end of 1999 -> this really has nothing to do
with Y2K, but does happen coincidentaly, and you need to download a 
new verisign database to fix it).

There are many possible implications for programs that do date 
calculations, especially if you have one that does something like 
eliminate files "older than a certain date". It is possible that the 
program could assume that a file with the date 2000 on it was created 
100 years ago, and it will erase it.

Overall, I doubt if most users will see any problems, but you will not
know, for sure, until it happens, or until you have tested every 
program, with every option. At this late date, I suspect that a 
complete test of all of your programs, would be impossible. You are, 
likely, going to find out the hard way whether you will have a 
problem.

For more information, check out:
http://www.software.ibm.com/os/warp/solutions/and/y2000/year2000.html
which should get you started, and give you some other places to look.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: Girls Girls Girls Agency                          07-Dec-99 13:44:07
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: Approach

From: "www.girlsagent.com" <Girls Girls Girls Agency>

On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:04:22 -0500, Ken Anderson wrote:

I got the problem after fix 11. If I try to search a state it freezes at 50%.
I'm using approach 1.1. If I search name or address it works fine

>Is anybody having trouble with Lotus Approach doing searches for
>multiple fields after installing FP12?  It will search just fine for one
>field but if you try more than that a window comes up saying "sorting
>records" but it doesn't get past 50%.
>
>TIA
>
>Ken
>



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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               07-Dec-99 10:36:10
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: Linkwiz

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 07:06:27 +0000, dave@david-lister.co.uk wrote:

>Has anyone had similar problems with v3.03? If so, did you fix them??

I get the same type of error from time to time.   The program then simply
stops.   I am using 3.03.   It's a great program - when it works.

>Anyone know what's happened to PCX??? 

Haven't heard from them neither.



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From: karlbeem@mindspring.com                           07-Dec-99 18:59:12
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 16:53:19
Subj: Re: Desktop on Command v. 3.0 on the way?

From: "Karl M. Beem" <karlbeem@mindspring.com>

On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:38:26 -0500, L. Engelhart wrote:

>Does anybody have any information about when DToC v. 3.0 might be available?  
I
>poked around the IBM Japan site but didn't see any reference at all to a
newer
>version than v. 2.5.

I doubt if it exists.  2.5 just came out.

Karl



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From: gbooth@rockisland.com                             07-Dec-99 16:46:22
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 21:27:02
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: gbooth@rockisland.com

In <384c2c2b.1980027@picard.cds-inc.com>, on 12/06/99 
   at 09:40 PM, spamtrap@cds-inc.com (Brad Benson) said:

<SNIP>

>For BA/2000, we re-did the disaster recovery process completely.  The
>utility diskette tool now updates Warp3 and Warp4 utility diskettes as
>well as those created by BootOS2, and the disaster recovery HotStart
>provides a wizard-like, mouse-driven interface to the disaster recovery
>process.  

>Last spring we took a survey of what people liked and didn't like about
>BA/2; the disaster recovery process was the largest "wart".  It worked
>pretty well, people said, but configuring the diskettes could be
>maddening.  We worked extremely hard to simply the process with this new
>thing.

Brad:  I 've downloaded,  installed & registered  BA2000 because it was
the only program that appeared to work on a secondary SCSI card for my DAT
drive; but no where can I find  mention of using BootOS2 as part of a
disaster recovery procedure. Could you elucidate?

Thanks for a great product, and for keeping the faith for OS/2 users.

regards,

Gary Boothman 


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Dec-99 18:26:20
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: Dialer settings

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 01:37:24, fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk) wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:54:21, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug 
> Bissett) wrote:
> 
> > Reboot the system, and close all running programs (if any)-> Open an 
> > OS/2 window session-> change directory to x:\TCPIP\BIN-> type "TCPDIAL
> > /?" (no quotes, and all on one line, if this wraps)-> cancel or OK to 
> > any popup windows, and close the help, which should leave you at the 
> > dial window. Click Settings-> Settings notebook-> verify EVERY setting
> > (I found a couple of things that didn't get listed as errors had also 
> > changed). Close the settings, and use Network-> Exit to close the 
> > dialer. Then reboot, immediately (I am not sure this is really 
> > required, but do it anyway).
> 
> Doug,
> 
>      Thanks for the suggestions.  However, after  trying all that a 
> few times, the settings notebook doesn't come up at all - nothing 
> happens.  Apparently, it's just vanished.  If you have any other 
> ideas, I'd appreciate them.  If not, I suppose it's time to 
> uninstall/reinstall, which I'm wondering if it's worth the time since 
> it didn't seem to help you.  I've temporarily gone back to Ver. 1.66 
> (1.67?) & all works fine
>      Like you, I don't have the foggiest idea what happened.  
>      Thanks again.
> 
> FWK
> 

Hmmm. OK, that does sound exactly like what I had happen. It happened 
to me about 2 weeks after the 1.69 dialer came available, so the old 
memory is failing. I know that I did reinstall the dialer, and I still
had the problem, but I was able to get to the settings by asking for 
the program help from a command line. Perhaps, you need to reinstall 
the program, and then do the help thing. You can request the update 
from the 1.66, or 1.67 dialer, and DON'T  let it do the update. Look 
in your TCPIP\TMP directory, you will find the dialer install program 
(I don't remember the original name, since I renamed it to prevent 
overwriting it). Now, you can install it by executing that program, 
without being connected to the internet (keep the program, for future 
use). Reinstall, then try requesting help, from the command line, 
which should let you get into the settings (DON'T try to open the 
program, just request help from the command line, close the help, and 
select the Settings from the window menu).

I am not sure, but I think there may be some interaction between 
Netscape, and the dialer, if you try to close both at the same time. 
Since I have been waiting for Netscape to close, before I close the 
dialer, I have not had the problem, but that may just be coincidence. 
I sometimes close the dialer, and leave Netscape open, so the sequence
doesn't seem to matter, I suspect that the problem occurs when both 
programs are closing at roughly the same time.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Dec-99 18:26:18
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: Approach

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:04:22, Ken Anderson <Kanderson@Kanderson.net> 
wrote:

> Is anybody having trouble with Lotus Approach doing searches for
> multiple fields after installing FP12?  It will search just fine for one
> field but if you try more than that a window comes up saying "sorting
> records" but it doesn't get past 50%.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Ken
> 

I have had a similar problem since about FP10. There seems to be two 
problems. one with the find, and one with the sort. It seems that if I
don't try to use the scroll bars, before I click on a record. it will 
work (at least sometimes). I have decided that Approach is an early 
beta (I have not updated to the 1.1 version, and am really reluctant 
to put any more money into that package), not fit for use. I don't use
the program much, and am in the process of trying to figure out how to
use StarOffice to do the job. If that doesn't work, I will look for 
something else, but it will be a native OS/2 program.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Dec-99 18:26:23
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:02:02, Dana_Hartsock@compuserve.com (Dana 
Hartsock) wrote:

> I've thought many time of building my own system... but the 
> economics of it are not at all compelling. If I am going to 
> keep the system a couple more years (assuming it keeps 
> running) a SCSI card
> that provides a decent performance boost might be 
> worthwhile. I'm just not sure there is any such animal out 
> there.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Dana
> 

From my experience, I doubt if a SCSI card will make very much 
difference to your current system. Without doing some major (probably,
relatively, expensive) updates in addition to a SCSI card, you just 
won't see much, if any, improvement. There are too many other things 
that will still hold you back. As I suggested earlier, I would be 
tempted to save my money, until I could afford to replace the whole 
thing. 

I have the expertise to be able to build my own system, but I wouldn't
even consider it. The BIGGEST problem with doing that, is if something
doesn't work (perhaps the screen adapter you choose, doesn't work with
the motherboard that you chose), who do you get warranty from? The MB 
supplier will just say it is the video card, and the video card 
supplier will say it is the MB. Each will be able to demonstrate that 
their product works (with other products), and you are stuck. As you 
say, the economics of doing it are not that great either.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Dec-99 18:27:00
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Netscape download problems

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

I downloaded, and installed, the latest TCPIP updates (along with 
whatever else it fixes) called UN_980 (this was referenced by the OS/2
supersite, a few days ago). This update seems to have fixed the 
Netscape download problem. I am currently downloading StarOffice, as 
posted on the SUN web site, and am at 41 MB, without a problem. Before
the update, I never got beyond the 8 meg mark.

ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v3.1os2&v4.0os2/
universal/un_0980/

Could it be that something got fixed????
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               07-Dec-99 20:04:26
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: Browser only

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

James Moe schrieb:
>     I am looking for an HTML rendering program. Currently the only ones
> I have found are part of other programs such as Netscpae Navigator. More
> and more documentation is being written in HTML and I would like to have
> a way of viewing it without having to start Navigator (or whatever) and
> all its overhead just to read a few pages of text. There is no need for
> networking; all the docs are local.

If the documentation doesn't rely on graphics you may want to try one of
the textmode browsers available for OS/2. Try Lynx (2.8.2 available on
LEO w/ mouse support) or Links
(http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/, with mouse support and
ability to display tables). Emacs/W3 is said to also work under OS/2,
but I didn't manage to get it working with Emacs 19.33.
If you need graphics but no frames WebExplorer is still your friend.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            07-Dec-99 19:05:14
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: DB2/PE

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <c1.2c.2T9t59$06b@bozo.pro-ns.net>, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net writes:
>In <c1.2c.2T9N6M$06a@bozo.pro-ns.net>, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net writes:
>>In <384C0FBF.51BABA03@ca.ibm.com>, Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>
writes:
>>>	Everything should work - it was fairly extensively tested here at the
>>>lab, and numerous people have downloaded and successfully installed it
>>>off the net.  If you can provide some details as to how you initiated
>>>the install, I'd be happy to help however I can.
>>>
>>>Brad BARCLAY
>>>DB2 for OS/2 Install Team Lead.
>>
>>Here's what I did:
>>    1) d/l'd peen.zip (32.8 mb) and pecmn.zip(40.3 mb) from the IBM
>>        web site.
>>    2) unzipped both files in an empty directory--h:\db2inst
>>    3) shifted to the empty directory
>>    4) typed install, and pressed <ENTER>
>>
>>and here's what I got:
>>    1) IBM logo-auto timed advance to next window
>>    2) Welcome Window-press Continue
>>    3) Installation Window-select DB2 PE radio button, press Continue
>>    4) Popup error message:
>>
>>              EPFIE188:  The file ('h:\db2inst\db2\en\install\db2.rsp')
>>                           is in use and cannot be accessed, or cannot be
>>                           found.
>>       NB. After checking for the file, I see that it is not present on my
>>            system, although the folks at DB2 support said it is on the
>>            CDROM version--so I wondered why it was not included with
>>            the zipped file downloads?
>>
>>I have Warp 4 + FP12 and am trying to do a simple attended install
>>on this workstation (which happens to be connected by IBM Peer to
>>another workstation, with Warp 3). I have tried it with the Peer 
>>connection shut down, but still get the same result.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>
>After trying everything all over again from the beginning, it looks like
>the peen.zip file got corrupted during the d/l--so I am going to get
>another d/l for this file, and try again.
>
>Will post the results here.

It was the corrupted d/l for peen.zip--got another one, and everything
worked fine, using the info unzip.

Thanks for the hints.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     07-Dec-99 19:48:25
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: Netscape download problems

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:27:00, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug 
Bissett) wrote:

> I downloaded, and installed, the latest TCPIP updates (along with 
> whatever else it fixes) called UN_980 (this was referenced by the OS/2
> supersite, a few days ago). This update seems to have fixed the 
> Netscape download problem. I am currently downloading StarOffice, as 
> posted on the SUN web site, and am at 41 MB, without a problem. Before
> the update, I never got beyond the 8 meg mark.
> 
> ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v3.1os2&v4.0os2/
> universal/un_0980/
> 
> Could it be that something got fixed????
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************
> 

Sorry to respond to my own post, but I got to a little over 58 meg, 
out of something over 66 meg, and POOF! gone.

Oh well, it IS better...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: mtve@hal-pc.org                                   07-Dec-99 10:21:05
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: *.snm oddities? in Comm 4.61

From: Marvin Volz <mtve@hal-pc.org>

I had the same problem and just deleted all the "non-corresponding" files.
Think I caused it by using different names (Template instead of Templates;
Unsent message instead of Unsent messages) in my common mail directory. I
use the same mail folders on a common fat drive for both OS/2 4.61 & Win95
4.61. Actual programs are on Win95 fat32 drive and OS/2 HPFS drives which
can't see each other. Every time I deleted one of the excess folders in mail
group NS crashes. But when it comes back I can delete it as a subfolder
under "Trash." To get it all straigtened out I had to delete dups in
prefs.js file (see 4.61 help on OS/2 NS site), then under
preferences|folders specify exact folder to use for drafts and templates.
Also folder lines in both OS/2 and Win95 versions of prefs.js files should
not conflict, or you'll keep getting new unwanted folders.

Marv

Wm D Loughman wrote:

> Peeking into Comm 4.61's Mail directory, I find an ever-increasing
> number of "  *.snm  " files in there _without_ corresponding "  *.  "
> files.  These all have names like T???????.snm, where the " ? " are
> mixed letters and characters, and range in size from 2560 to 16384
> bytes.  Sometimes (always?) they show in the window which shows Mail
> "folders".  I tried deleting one, from _within_ Comm461 - and got a
> system 'freeze' for my trouble, with a consequent C-A-D reboot (Watchcat
> couldn't help).
>
> What's going on?  I always assumed (w/o certain knowledge)  the *.snm
> contained info designating message boundaries within a 'folder'.  How
> can one have "  *.snm  " w/o corresponding "  *.  "??
>
> Why are they there?  Why so many?  Presently, there are 20 'solo' files
> totalling 108Kb.  Why don't they get cleaned out?  Renaming them, eg
> T... -> X... , seems not to harm anything, but.....?
>
> WD "Bill" Loughman       "The problem with the gene pool: no lifeguard."
> Berkeley, California  USA
> wdlkhl@attglobal.net

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               07-Dec-99 14:24:17
  To: All                                               07-Dec-99 22:22:16
Subj: Re: DB2/PE

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote:
> After trying everything all over again from the beginning, it looks like
> the peen.zip file got corrupted during the d/l--so I am going to get
> another d/l for this file, and try again.
> 
> Will post the results here.

	Okay - I'll be watching for them.

	One bit of advice:  after downloading the archives, run an "unzip -t"
against them to test them, making sure there are no errors in the
archive prior to proceeding.  If there are, you might want to try
running the same test with PKZip v2.5 (as another poster pointed out,
PKZip v2.5 supports an additional compression method that InfoZIP
doesn't).

	Let me know how your downloads and tests turn out!

Brad BARCLAY
DB2 for OS/2 Install Team Lead.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: bobmcl@ibm.net                                    08-Dec-99 14:09:14
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:25
Subj: Re: Dialer settings

From: bob <bobmcl@ibm.net>


Frank Kirk wrote:

>         Hope this is the right place for this.
>
>         Using IBM dialer version 1.69.  Last night, when attempting to dial,
> a box comes up saying that my User ID and password are not entered,
> along with a button marked OK.  (It's been working fine prior to
> this).
>         My problem is that I can't change the settings.  If I right click on
> the globe icon, I get Properties, but no settings.  There's got to be
> a simple way to do this & I'd appreciate any help.
>
>         Many thanks,
>
> FWK

  The settings pages are added by the WPS class DLL. Somehow your system has
unregistered the the dialler class or the dialler has forgotten it is in that
class. I would expect it to be fixable by a reinstall, but debris in the ini
file may preclude this. Can you list the WPS classes and see if it is ok?

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From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com                                 08-Dec-99 03:20:10
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

From: DLaRue@NetSRQ.Com (David LaRue)

  Tony, et al,

  The machines available from resellers rarely met the needs of OS/2 users. 
OS/2
usually used more of the machine and the users tried to run much more than
their Windows counterparts.  Anyway, the Unix and OS/2 crowd seemed to be
more aware of things like L2 cache, RAM, and well balanced system
requirements.
Windows people did seem to put more into graphics and game requirements
though.

  My 286 started at 8MB and then I gave it 16MB (always had a 1MB L2 even
in those days).  It was expensive but swapping on drives wasn't as good as now
with better drives.  I've always run SCSI and love OS/2s management skills.
It was a good system.  

  VAC++ v3 required a move to the 486 starting at 16MB.  Later I upped it to
a full 256MB just so that VAC++ v3 could start in under 4 hours.  That was a
hog in a constrained system.  Apps matter far more than just booting a
machine,
in terms of RAM requirements.  If the system keeps slowing down that kind of
defeats the purpose.

  Today the P-III and 384MB are my norm.  Okay, this is overkill.  Graphics,
DSL,
TCP, digital photo software, VAC++ v4, and a few games can't budge the
sawpper file (stuck at 2MB).  All apps run as though nothing else is on the
system.  [Not like another popular system that slows down when you add
a TCP stack and a WinModem.]

  Generally I've found 16MB for 2.11 to be enough for most LAN intensive apps.
16-32MB for v3 and most apps.  v3 was better at memory management.  v4 may
be an improvement.  Its hard to tell since so much of the system changed.
v4 runs well in 32MB but appreciates a little more.  128MB is probably
comfortable
for most people.

  After CPU, L2, and RAM, the hard drive becomes an important factor.  A fast
boot and swapper drive are fairly important.  SCSI can help keep system pauses
to a minimum.  Multiple physical drives can help separate program loading too.

  Take care all,

  David

In <384c888c_3@news1.prserv.net>, "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>
writes:
>*UNCONSTRAINED*
>
>When Warp was released, few if any machines had enough memory to run
>unconstrained save for a few high end servers and such.  32M of memory was
>virtually unheard of at the time.
>
> Tony
>
>John Poltorak <jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:384c6b22.0@katana.legend.co.uk...
>> In <384c52bd_1@news1.prserv.net>, "Tony Ingenoso" <tonyi@attglobal.net>
>writes:
>> >Warp 3 had a major page tuning effort done to it.  All aspects of the
>system
>> >were reworked with respect to locked memory usage and working set.
>> >
>> >However, IMO 2.11 is somewhat faster in unconstrained environments.
>>
>> That was not my experience at all. OS/2 v3 was so much faster than v2+.
>> The kernel itself was greatly reduced so didn't take up so much memory.
>>
>> > Tony
>> >
>> --
>> John
>
>

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From: blevinsl@sisna.com                                07-Dec-99 16:46:17
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: ess1878

From: blevinsl@sisna.com

Can somone tell me what I need to do to get my sound card (ess1878) to
work on my SONY 705? I have downloaded the 1878 driver from several
different sources, they seem  to be indentical, and have tried every
permutation I can think of. It traps at es18781$. I have FP 12 on Warp 4
running, I have checked dma and irq for conflict (I run a standalone
system and am stripped near to bare), made sure the old support was
removed, tried installing to the prefixpak MMOS2, tried changing the
bios to a non PnP setting etc.
      With quite a bit of work I have managed to get the SONY to run OS2
well. I used the NeoMagicZV driver (instead of the ZX) and SIO makes the
built-in modem work, (couldn't get to work with COM.SYS) Thanks

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From: jr_fox@earthlink.net                              07-Dec-99 18:34:24
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net>

Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

> ok,
>
> I finally installed netscape 4.61, java 1.18 and feature install 1.2.5.
>
> Now the problem.  Actually it's two.
>
> On reading the mail, I can't even read any of the messages that was formerly
> under Netscape/2 2.02  or under Netscape 3.04g.  The header does show tho.
>
> Now, for the 2nd problem. this concerns the browser.  I goto one of the
search
> websites like Yahoo or Excite.  Usually, it has a search box to type in the
> queries.  In this case, instead of search box, an underline is displayed.
>
> any ideas on how to deal with these quirks?
>
> Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509

Couldn't swear to it, but this sounds like it could be that unsupported font
problem, where you have to change from the default (Courier, I think) to
Courier
New ?

<jf>



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From: lazaga1@attglobal.net                             07-Dec-99 20:02:26
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: Quicken Online Banking

From: Paul Lazaga <lazaga1@attglobal.net>

I used Quicken 98 for a bit.  It seemed to want a full-screen Win-OS2 
session to work properly.  Also, I found that I needed to use their 
dialer and suggested ISP (free for 3 hours per month I think).  It 
worked once with my normal ISP and OS/2 dialer, but not again.

I use InCharge for things now.....

-- 
Paul Lazaga, eMail: lazaga1@attglobal.net
WTW Group, Los Gatos, California, USA
Tel: 408-378-8636, Fax: 408-378-5927
Web: http://www.wtwgroup.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 7.12.99, 12:09:21, tvoltagg@home.com wrote regarding Quicken Online 
Banking:


> Does anyone use Quicken 98 and do Online Banking under win-os/2?
> I'm having a heck of a time trying to access this.  It works fine
> in Win95.  Please post or email me.



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From: wdlkhl@attglobal.net                              07-Dec-99 21:02:21
  To: mtve@hal-pc.org                                   08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: *.snm oddities? in Comm 4.61

To: mtve@hal-pc.org
From: Wm D Loughman <wdlkhl@attglobal.net>

Marvin Volz wrote:
> I had the same problem and just deleted all the "non-corresponding" files.
	[  snip  ]
> 
> Wm D Loughman wrote:
> > Peeking into Comm 4.61's Mail directory, I find an ever-increasing
> > number of "  *.snm  " files in there _without_ corresponding "  *.  "

Many thanks for the observations and info, it was useful.  Still - kinda
bug-like, huh?
 

WD "Bill" Loughman       "The problem with the gene pool: no lifeguard."
Berkeley, California  USA
wdlkhl@attglobal.net

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               07-Dec-99 22:54:18
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems
BY: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr

>Actually, you were right the first time; both of those are
>one single problem with the font selection.  Your system
>is not displaying the Courier New font (either it wasn't
>installed, usually because you didn't install Win-OS/2, or
>it isn't supported by your video driver), so you should go
>to Edit->Preferences, select Fonts, and change the Fixed
>Width font to Courier instead.

Courier New font?

Netscape 4.61 did have the Courier font in the Fixed Width section.

FYI,  I both have Win-OS2 and Matrox Millenium G200.



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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               07-Dec-99 22:54:18
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: Long file names

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: Long file names
BY: csaba_r@my-deja.com (Csaba Raduly)

>Can't you read the CD in OS/2 (remember the /W switch for CDFS.IFS)

what version of OS/2 does the CDFS.IFS /W switch valid under?

I don't ever recall seeing that switch before.


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From: jr_fox@earthlink.net                              07-Dec-99 18:47:27
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: Browser only

From: "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net>

James Moe wrote:

> Hello,
>     I am looking for an HTML rendering program. Currently the only ones
> I have found are part of other programs such as Netscpae Navigator. More
> and more documentation is being written in HTML and I would like to have
> a way of viewing it without having to start Navigator (or whatever) and
> all its overhead just to read a few pages of text. There is no need for
> networking; all the docs are local.
>
> --
>
> sma at rtd dot com
> Remove ".spam-not" for email

I've been looking for something like that too -- something my file mgr.
(ZTree Bold) can call to
display an HTML file, much as it also functions as a Zip & other archivers
shell -- instead of having to load the whole honking Communicator suite.
Let me know if you find anything.  The only prospects I've uncovered so far
are HTML editors listed on Norloff or the SuperSite CDs, which seem to have
a shareware license costing as much as a full-fledged app.   And given the
age of these, it is doubtful they are still supported or developed.  What
I'm looking for is a Tiny Editor sized HTML *reader*; editing functions are
probably irrelevant.

<jfox>



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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     08-Dec-99 05:54:10
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

> Netscape 4.61 did have the Courier font in the Fixed Width section.

Try some of the other Fixed Width font selections.  The
symptoms you describe indicate that the Fixed Width font
for your default encoding is not displaying correctly.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               07-Dec-99 22:21:13
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 03:27:26
Subj: Re: ess1878

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

blevinsl@sisna.com wrote:

> Can somone tell me what I need to do to get my sound card (ess1878) to
> work on my SONY 705? I have downloaded the 1878 driver from several
> different sources, they seem  to be indentical, and have tried every
> permutation I can think of. It traps at es18781$. I have FP 12 on Warp 4
> running, I have checked dma and irq for conflict (I run a standalone
> system and am stripped near to bare), made sure the old support was
> removed, tried installing to the prefixpak MMOS2, tried changing the
> bios to a non PnP setting etc.
>       With quite a bit of work I have managed to get the SONY to run OS2
> well. I used the NeoMagicZV driver (instead of the ZX) and SIO makes the
> built-in modem work, (couldn't get to work with COM.SYS) Thanks

The answer may be in this IBM ESS release:

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/2632ADD962A12DA3852561B2004F42F4.
html

I offer this because we had a member who tried everything to get
ESS to work after his install of FP12.  He went to the ESS site
and downloaded that version but it failed, he tried several others
and nothing seemed to work.  According to our 'success' file
he went to the site above, downloaded that IBM package and
found instant relief.  It may help you.

Note:  you may have to copy the contents of the Zip file to
a floppy and install from a floppy but it isn't difficult.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City, http://warpcity.com
"Warp City Y2K Membership Discounts For 199 Members!"


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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             08-Dec-99 08:16:13
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 05:09:28
Subj: Re: Remote Access to OS/2 (eg. MS NetMeeting)

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:48:56, mail@ridax.se (Mikael Wahlgren) wrote:

> :>> Several, NetOp, PolyPM/2 (aka RSM), Netfinity.
> 
> :>Is this the PM2You of many years ago, or based on it?
> :>I never used it but I seem to remember that it did something similar.
> 
> No, it is not the same...  PM2You is still updated and marketed at the web
> page http://ridax.nu
> 
> It will allow you to remote control the OS/2 Desktop from any Java platform
> (including browsers).  Now, you can also use dial-up modem connection
(without
> underlying PPP/SLIP) from any machine, using Java.  Of course there are
native
> OS/2 and Windows clients as well (and a Windows host).
> 
> Mikael Wahlgren - mail@ridax.se
> Ridax programutveckling - PM2You/OS2You Remote Control for OS/2
> FTP 194.52.57.138 - http://welcome.to/ridax
> WIN2You - Remote Control for Windows 95/NT
> 

Thanks for the info. Pleased to hear that it is still around.

Good luck,
-- 
Dave

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From: yourself@127.0.0.1                                08-Dec-99 06:48:04
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 05:09:28
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 questions

From: yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:08:18, cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:

> Netscape 4.61 (de, with Fortify) works generally great here (no
> crashes, no freezes etc.), but still some problems/questions remain:
> 
> - On certain _PAGES_ (or sites?) it becomes painfully slow, almost not
> moving any more! Of course this can always be the fault of the other
> side, but in some cases I tried many times and many different times of
> the day or night, i.e. with my bank account. Another URL that could
> serve as a test case is
> http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com/mapmachine/
> Anyone else these problems? Even a workaround or a solution except just
> waiting? At least the mapmachine URL works with no problem from my NT
> computer at work. A common feature of the "slow places" is their heavy
> use of Javascript and other gimmicks...
[snip]

There seems to be a group of problems related to loading graphics
that results in 100% CPU usage and very low throughput ( < 1k/sec).

For http sites (at least) this can be "caused" by setting NC's
disk cache to zero.  Resetting it to 64 or 128k cures the problem.
For the one https site I access (my bank), this doesn't help.
Instead, I've found that opening one of NC's dialogs gets things
moving again.  I use "File->Save as" since it's non-modal and can
be left open.  (Others have suggested clicking on another app's
window, but that doesn't help me for the https site.)

   == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
___________________________________________________________________

                |             - DragText v3.1 -
Rich Walsh      |  A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement
Ft Myers, FL    |  New!  Pickup & Drop for text, and more...
                |  http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/
___________________________________________________________________

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    08-Dec-99 02:28:11
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 05:09:28
Subj: Re: cdrecord/2 new ver - problem

From: nemo@union.edu

Greetings!

There was a recent discussion of cdrecord/2 and I thought I'd hook my
question into it.

I have a Ricoh 7060s hooked into a Tekram adaptor; it is my ownly
cd-drive; I'm at Warp 4, FP#10 (as I recall).

I'm having trouble with cdrecord/2 (as well as with rsj). 

In cdrecord when I attempt to write to the cd, I get the following
message:

>Fixating...
>WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.
>Fixating time:    0.020s
>Process terminated by SIGTERM
>F:\cdrecord\cdrecord.exe: fifo had 2 puts and 2 gets.
>F:\cdrecord\cdrecord.exe: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min
>fill was 100%.

(Same thing whether 'dummy mode' or not.)

I need some help interpreting this and troubleshooting.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: say@sfu.ca                                        08-Dec-99 08:16:28
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 05:09:28
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca>

letoured@nospam.net wrote:
:>The best text editor for writers, period, is XyWrite.

: That really depends upon what one is writing!
: _____________
: Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

	No, Xywrite (4 more than version 3) is 
	so configurable and customizable for the 
	writing (not pretty printing) process that
	it is an ideal tool.

	Pretty printing is best done with print to
	Postscript and then to Ghostscript universal
	printer drivers.

	Spellchecking on the fly, Impossibly fast
	search and replace, a wonderful programming
	language for macros, spellers with auto expand
	of truncations and fast, f a s t, f  a  s   t
	Darn quick.

	

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           08-Dec-99 12:45:19
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 10:20:01
Subj: Re: Desktop on Command v. 3.0 on the way?

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <xneyorrzzvaqfcevatpbz.fmdwrn0.pminews@nntp.atl.mediaone.net>, on
12/07/99 
   at 06:59 PM, "Karl M. Beem" <karlbeem@mindspring.com> said:

>On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:38:26 -0500, L. Engelhart wrote:

>>Does anybody have any information about when DToC v. 3.0 might be available? 
 I
>>poked around the IBM Japan site but didn't see any reference at all to a
newer
>>version than v. 2.5.

>I doubt if it exists.  2.5 just came out.

I heard about v.3.0 (Japanese) on this newsgroup some time ago. A search
on dejanews should help to locate that posting. A person reported he has
downloaded it but asked for help with installing/configuring since the
config notebook layout has changed significantly from v.2.5 and he was not
able to match Japanese-labeled entries in the new notebook to previous
English v.2.5. I have no other information about v.3.0, sorry.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           08-Dec-99 13:55:05
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 10:20:01
Subj: Re: Desktop on Command v. 3.0 on the way?

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <384e29dd$1$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru>, on 12/08/99 
   at 12:45 PM, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> said:

>>I doubt if it exists.  2.5 just came out.

>I heard about v.3.0 (Japanese) on this newsgroup some time ago. A search
>on dejanews should help to locate that posting. A person reported he has
>downloaded it but asked for help with installing/configuring since the
>config notebook layout has changed significantly from v.2.5 and he was
>not able to match Japanese-labeled entries in the new notebook to
>previous English v.2.5. I have no other information about v.3.0, sorry.

Correction: After checking with dejanews, it appears that the posting I
had on my mind actually referred to DToC v.2.5. So, no any new version...

Sorry for a confusion.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
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From: Roland.Pinches@pmail.net                          08-Dec-99 11:49:06
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 10:20:01
Subj: Re: Browser only

From: "Roland Pinches" <Roland.Pinches@pmail.net>

Object Desktop has an HTML view built in that works pretty well. Also,
StarOffice will read HTML files, although that's a pretty heavyweight
solution and certainly can't be likened to Tiny Editor in size :-)

Roly.

On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 18:47:55 -0500, J. R. Fox wrote:

>James Moe wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>     I am looking for an HTML rendering program. Currently the only ones
>> I have found are part of other programs such as Netscpae Navigator. More
>> and more documentation is being written in HTML and I would like to have
>> a way of viewing it without having to start Navigator (or whatever) and
>> all its overhead just to read a few pages of text. There is no need for
>> networking; all the docs are local.
>>
>> --
>>
>> sma at rtd dot com
>> Remove ".spam-not" for email
>
>I've been looking for something like that too -- something my file mgr.
>(ZTree Bold) can call to
>display an HTML file, much as it also functions as a Zip & other archivers
>shell -- instead of having to load the whole honking Communicator suite.
>Let me know if you find anything.  The only prospects I've uncovered so far
>are HTML editors listed on Norloff or the SuperSite CDs, which seem to have
>a shareware license costing as much as a full-fledged app.   And given the
>age of these, it is doubtful they are still supported or developed.  What
>I'm looking for is a Tiny Editor sized HTML *reader*; editing functions are
>probably irrelevant.
>
><jfox>
>
>
>



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From: Roger Skolmen                                     07-Dec-99 09:29:00
  To: benson@cds-inc.com                                07-Dec-99 09:29:00
Subj: Re: tape backup program

In a message dated 12-06-99, spamtrap@cds-inc.com said to All:

BB>From: spamtrap@cds-inc.com (Brad Benson)

B>Back Again/2 v4.0i had an all new utility for creating the boot
BB>disks, stolen from the then-still-under-wraps Back Again/2000
BB>product we announced last month.  It made diskette creation much
BB>easier.

BB>For BA/2000, we re-did the disaster recovery process completely. 
BB>The utility diskette tool now updates Warp3 and Warp4 utility
BB>diskettes as well as those created by BootOS2, and the disaster
BB>recovery HotStart provides a wizard-like, mouse-driven interface
BB>to the disaster recovery process.  

BB>Last spring we took a survey of what people liked and didn't like
BB>about BA/2; the disaster recovery process was the largest "wart". 
BB>It worked pretty well, people said, but configuring the diskettes
BB>could be maddening.  We worked extremely hard to simply the
BB>process with this new thing.

Two complaints with BA/2000. Add to the help or readme files that
Bootos2 can be used instead of the create utility disk kludge.  I
discovered this for myself. Secondly, get rid of the trap that
finds one of the devices called for in CLTAPE unavailable at
bootup.  For example, I have 4 OS2 machines and move a parallel
port zip drive from one to another as needed.  I know when it
is there and when it is not.  I do not need to get an error message
about this each time I boot up when it isn't attached. 

Roger Skolmen
___
 * MR/2 2.26 NR * 

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From: cwr@cts.com                                       08-Dec-99 13:17:08
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: Long file names

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Dilbert Firestorm <wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:
: RE: Re: Long file names
: BY: csaba_r@my-deja.com (Csaba Raduly)

:>Can't you read the CD in OS/2 (remember the /W switch for CDFS.IFS)

: what version of OS/2 does the CDFS.IFS /W switch valid under?

: I don't ever recall seeing that switch before.

At least Warp 3.0 FP 40 - I'd guess 4.0 FP 12.


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: prather@infi.net                                  08-Dec-99 14:09:07
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Tax Preparation Software

From: prather@infi.net (Jerry Prather)

I went out yesterday to make my annual purchase of TurboTax.  All
the boxes on the shelf said Windows 95, 98, or NT - no reference
to Win3.1.  I take that to mean that I can no longer continue to
install TurboTax in WinOS2.  Can anyone confirm or deny?

Thanks,

Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
					- Me (circa 1998)

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               08-Dec-99 09:27:27
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: letoured@nospam.net

Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca> said:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Its a good program, but not the be
all, end all for everything and everyone.  If I was working on a 1000 page
technical manual, it sure wouldn't be in Xywhatever.  



>: That really depends upon what one is writing!
>: _____________
>: Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

>	No, Xywrite (4 more than version 3) is 
>	so configurable and customizable for the 
>	writing (not pretty printing) process that
>	it is an ideal tool.

>	Pretty printing is best done with print to
>	Postscript and then to Ghostscript universal
>	printer drivers.

>	Spellchecking on the fly, Impossibly fast
>	search and replace, a wonderful programming
>	language for macros, spellers with auto expand
>	of truncations and fast, f a s t, f  a  s   t
>	Darn quick.

>	
_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: tbretz@physik.tu-muenchen.de                      08-Dec-99 15:27:22
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Vice/2 rel. 1.2

From: Thomas Bretz <tbretz@physik.tu-muenchen.de>

Hello all,

a new release (1.2) of Vice/2 - the OS/2 port of VICE - the versatile
commodore emulator - is available. 

Vice/2 uses DIVE and DART at the moment.

Please send bugreports and suggestions to mailto:tbretz@gsi.de

You can find the binaries at:
http://www.prakt.physik.tu-muenchen.de/tbretz/vice2/

Have fun,
Thomas.

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        08-Dec-99 15:14:03
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 22:19:44 GMT, Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net> wrote:
> But whatever computer I buy -- unless it is from Indelible Blue, and I
> don't know why they insist on using those "lightweight" DFI boards in
> their machines -- if anything goes wrong, the dealer or manufacturer
> will probably tell me that it is because I am using OS/2 or Linux
> instead of WinWhatever.
> 
> I built my own machine, using components that other people said worked
> well with OS/2. I know what is in it. It does not have substandard "OEM'
> versions of any component. I am not voiding a warranty by opening it up
> to add or change something myself. I am not going to find that it has
> some proprietary
>
anything-to-save-a-buck-because-the-dumb-consumers-will-never-know-the-differen
ce
> "feature" that prevents me adding some particular component, or that it
> has only one free PCI slot.

When I bought my latest computer, I just went to a neighbourhood
independent computer store, gave them a precise list of components
(brand, model number, and manufacturer contact info), along with a couple
of components I'd already acquired (like my SCSI card, TV tuner, hard
drive) - and said "will you put this system together for me?"  They did,
with no problems other than the case (which their suppliers didn't carry).

My own custom components, a good price, AND a warranty.  And no operating
system.  :)

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                08-Dec-99 10:20:12
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net> said:
>this sounds like it could be that unsupported font
>problem, where you have to change from the default (Courier, I think) to
>Courier New ?

If I understand what you're saying it is the other way.  4.61 comes set to
Courier New.  It needs to be changed to Courier if you don't have Courier
New on your system.


Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: wellner@pop.mke.etn.com                           08-Dec-99 14:59:22
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: WinOS2 programs can't find disk space

From: wellner@pop.mke.etn.com

Perhaps this has been answered before, but...

Many Windows program programs do not think I have any available disk space (On 
one disk I have 
two gig and 6 gig on the other.  TaxCut, for example, would not run when
installed on my D drive, complaining that I did not have enough disk space.  I 
had 2 gig.  I had to reinstall it on the C drive.
These are HPFS disks.  Is there some set up parameter I could change or ...

TIA

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From: SkidMARX@att.net                                  08-Dec-99 16:22:27
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: RSJ help request ...

From: SkidMARX@att.net

Hello,

I'm using Warp 4 with Fixpak 12 and having problems with the RSJ 
burning package.

The CDROM is on my secondary IDE port as a slave device. 
The burner I have is listed as a supported model - RSJ has the model 
number listed wrong.  They show it as a Memorex CW-4224 when actually 
it's a CD-RW4224, so I modified the cddrv.inf data file ...

~ Because it's NOT scsi do I need to still load the RSJSCSI.sys 
driver?
~ And the corresponding DMD file?
~ Does placement of the RSJ statements within config.sys have any 
bearing?  I've moved them to the begining of config.sys without any 
success.
~ When the RSJ system is installed/loaded properly should I have a 
standard CDROM icon within "Connections" for reading typical data 
cdroms?  And then when I "attach" a blank cdrom using RSJ should I 
then have an additional icon for the attached disk, listed as whatever
drive designator I used during the attach process?  This is my 
understanding of the way RSJ operates.
~ If I just accept the default install parameters my drive is not seen
as a "Worm" device, but if I use the -i:"BURNER_NAME" parameter when 
loading the LOCKFLT it is seen and listed as a Worm device, so I 
assume the load was successful.  Does this make sense?
~ If I rem out the Lockflt completely the drive is not indentied at 
all.  Is THAT normal?

Any help would be greatly appreciated !!!

Thanks,
Gregory L. Marx
Skidmarx@att.net

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            08-Dec-99 16:25:08
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: SCSI - ISA Host Adapter

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

I tried to do the same at two different neighborhood computer stores. I
got reponses such as: "Why do you want a SCSI hard drive?" "Why do you
want ECC RAM?" and "Our distributor doesn't carry that brand; we'd have
to special order it." (We were talking exotic stuff like Asus and
Seagate and Matrox, you know.) Only one of the two ever gave me a quote
(itemized) for the whole system, and the prices were far in excess of
the prices for which I could buy the items.

I have a warranty too: the manufacturer's warranty on every single item.

Alan


Alex Taylor wrote:
> 
> When I bought my latest computer, I just went to a neighbourhood
> independent computer store, gave them a precise list of components
> (brand, model number, and manufacturer contact info), along with a 
> couple of components I'd already acquired (like my SCSI card, TV 
> tuner, hard drive) - and said "will you put this system together for 
> me?"  They did, with no problems other than the case (which their 
> suppliers didn't carry).
> 
> My own custom components, a good price, AND a warranty.  And no 
> operating system.  :)
>

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           08-Dec-99 19:27:22
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: WinOS2 programs can't find disk space

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <82lrp1$cbs1@interserv.etn.com>, on 12/08/99 
   at 02:59 PM, wellner@pop.mke.etn.com said:

>Perhaps this has been answered before, but...

Yes, many times.

>Many Windows program programs do not think I have any available disk
>space (On one disk I have  two gig and 6 gig on the other.  TaxCut, for
>example, would not run when installed on my D drive, complaining that I
>did not have enough disk space.  I had 2 gig.  I had to reinstall it on
>the C drive. These are HPFS disks.  Is there some set up parameter I
>could change or ...

Due to a bug in many DOS/Windows3x programs which never were designed to
run on any partition above 2G, the program free space counter overflows if
free space exceeds 2G. You should either manually reduce free space on
your partition to below 2G (by creating a huge dummy file) or use little
utility called SpaceHog (available on Hobbes) which can keep free space on
a partition below 2G automatically.

Cheers,
Ivan

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From: peterpan@mail2.dgraph.com                         08-Dec-99 09:35:05
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 14:48:04
Subj: Re: WinOS2 programs can't find disk space

From: Fujiha <peterpan@mail2.dgraph.com>

wellner@pop.mke.etn.com wrote:
> 
> Perhaps this has been answered before, but...
> 
> Many Windows program programs do not think I have any available disk space
(On one disk I have
> two gig and 6 gig on the other.  TaxCut, for example, would not run when
installed on my D drive, complaining that I did not have enough disk space.  I 
had 2 gig.  I had to reinstall it on the C drive.
> These are HPFS disks.  Is there some set up parameter I could change or ...
> 
> TIA

This is probably related to the fact that many programs will see
negative free space if there is more than ~2gig free. Fill up the space
with a dummy file(s) till you have less than 2 gig free and install.
Then delete the file.

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From: cocke@catherders.com                              08-Dec-99 12:43:14
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 16:40:13
Subj: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>


Help!

The company that I work for is searching for a manufacturing/accounting 
system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.  
No windows 9x or NT.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!




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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Dec-99 19:17:10
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:43:28, Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com> 
wrote:

> 
> 
> Help!
> 
> The company that I work for is searching for a manufacturing/accounting 
> system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.  
> No windows 9x or NT.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

My company sells one. ENTITY Systems Ltd.

It does GL, A/R, A/P, Invoicing, Sales analysis,
Bill of Materials and a bunch of other stuff.

OS/2, Windows 3.1 and character mode on DOS


--

Lorne Sunley

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From: davek@clark.net                                   08-Dec-99 19:46:19
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: BootOS2 "disk full" problem

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Alan Beagley (abeagley@optonline.net) wrote:                          

: I just tried to make a set of OS/2 (Warp 4) boot floppies using 
: BOOTOS2 ver. 2.26.                                                  

: The procedure aborts with a message that there is not enough space 
: on the floppy.                                                      

: I have used the 2DISK=A parameter.                                  

Some of the files have grown in size.  Get and use the lzlite option
to compress the dll and exe files.

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            08-Dec-99 19:39:29
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: BootOS2 "disk full" problem

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

I just tried to make a set of OS/2 (Warp 4) boot floppies using BOOTOS2
ver. 2.26.

The procedure aborts with a message that there is not enough space on
the floppy.

I have used the 2DISK=A parameter.

Alan

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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            08-Dec-99 19:26:07
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: UltiMail and tcpip v4.1/4.2

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

Has anyone been able to get UML working properly with the 32 bit stacks?

When I try, it works fine with my dial-up ISP connection after I have
connected, and just use it on-line.  The problem shows up in off-line
operation.

When I compose letters off-line, they get sent to the deadlet.ter
file instead of going to the \mptn\etc\mqueue directory, to await
processing by sendmail when the next dial-up connection is made.

I can't figure out if it is a basic incompatibility between UML and the
new stacks (wr08600, wr08610, wr08620), or I just don't have the
right setup/configuration.

There is another oddity with the 32 bit stacks, and that is the dialog
box when you start it up.  The dialog box in the 16 bit stacks (from
linkup.exe) asks if you want to Connect or Don't Connect.  With the
32 bit stacks, the choice is Connect(to an ISP) or Connect to a LAN,
and since I want to be off-line, I choose Connect to a LAN, even though
I have no LAN, but just a single workstation (which happens to be
connected to another workstation by IBM Peer).  But, even if I shut
the other workstation down, it still sends the letters which are composed
off-line to the deadlet.ter file.

For the time being I have removed tcpip v4.1 from my system, but
would like to put it back with a fully working UML.

So--any ideas anyone?

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Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: letang.sybille@hydro.qc.ca                        08-Dec-99 20:18:10
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Recovery lost data (HELP!!!)

From: Sybille =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=E9tang?= <letang.sybille@hydro.qc.ca>

Hi!

Does anyone know how can I retrieve my data on my HPFS drive? My file
table has been corrupted, but I desperately need the data on my drive.

What about Gammatech?  It is a good software?

Sybille

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     08-Dec-99 20:23:18
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: cdrecord/2 new ver - problem

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 07:28:23, nemo@union.edu wrote:

> Greetings!
>  
> There was a recent discussion of cdrecord/2 and I thought I'd hook my
> question into it.
>  
> I have a Ricoh 7060s hooked into a Tekram adaptor; it is my ownly
> cd-drive; I'm at Warp 4, FP#10 (as I recall).
>  
> I'm having trouble with cdrecord/2 (as well as with rsj). 
>  
> In cdrecord when I attempt to write to the cd, I get the following
> message:
> 

Go to:
http://www.tekram.com/
and get the latest updates. I can't say, for sure, that they will fix 
anything, but there is some indication that the updates (both flash, 
and driver) might fix your problem (depending on exactly which Tekram 
adaptor you are talking about, and whether you already have this 
level, or not).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     08-Dec-99 20:23:20
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 21:46:44, gbooth@rockisland.com wrote:

> Brad:  I 've downloaded,  installed & registered  BA2000 because it was
> the only program that appeared to work on a secondary SCSI card for my DAT
> drive; but no where can I find  mention of using BootOS2 as part of a
> disaster recovery procedure. Could you elucidate?
>  
> Thanks for a great product, and for keeping the faith for OS/2 users.
>  
> regards,
>  
> Gary Boothman 
>  

I would like to comment on this. I don't know if the BA/2000 
documentation mentions BootOS2, or not, and it doesn't really matter. 
BootOS2 creates bootable systems, in many configurations, from a 
diskette boot system, to a usable mini WPS, or PM system, configured 
properly for your system. In the context of using BA/2000 to restore a
system, you need a way to boot from diskettes. The OS/2 UTILITY 
diskettes, give you a set of three (I know, there are 4, but the last 
one is not required to get a system booted) diskettes, that use the 
same method to configure the system, on the fly, that the installation
diskettes use. This, usually, works, but the system may not be set up 
quite the same as the "normal" system. BootOS2, on the other hand, 
tries to set up a boot system, that matches your "normal" system, 
which can result in much better performance. 

There is also a problem with the OS/2 UTILITY diskette creation 
program, if you select to use the updated files from your hard disk. 
The later fix packs have made some of those files significantly 
bigger, and they won't fit on the diskettes. There are ways to work 
around that problem, but they are not "elegant" (for the want of a 
better word), or easy to do. BootOS2 does supply an option to use the 
LXLite package (available from LEO:
 http://www.leo.org/archiv/software/os2/index_grouped.html
look in the SysTools area, I think), which it uses to compress the 
executables as they are added to the diskettes. BootOS2 can still run 
out of room, on some configurations, but you have a MUCH better chance
of getting a usable set of boot diskettes (normally 2, instead of 3, 
which means the system will boot much faster with BootOS2 diskettes ->
the second diskette also has the usual tools found on the 4th UTILITY 
diskette).

IMO. IBM should have scrapped the UTILITY disk creation program, and 
replaced it with BootOS2, long ago. They do own the rights to it (it 
is an IBM Employee Written Program), and it does work MUCH better than
the "official" method of creating boot diskettes. BootOS2 also has 
many other advantages, that I won't discuss in this thread.

To, sort of, answer your question, Just substitute BootOS2 diskettes 
for UTILITY diskettes in the BA/2000 (or any other program that will 
run from a diskette boot) docs, and use them as you would the UTILITY 
diskettes.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     08-Dec-99 20:16:03
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Re: WinOS2 programs can't find disk space

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On 8 Dec 1999 14:59:45 GMT, wellner@pop.mke.etn.com wrote:

->Perhaps this has been answered before, but...
->
->Many Windows program programs do not think I have any available disk space
(On one disk I have 
->two gig and 6 gig on the other.  TaxCut, for example, would not run when
installed on my D drive, complaining that I did not have enough disk space.  I 
had 2 gig.  I had to reinstall it on the C drive.
->These are HPFS disks.  Is there some set up parameter I could change or ...

One other alternative. If you have Peer networking installed then NET USE
your own drive and make sure the bit setting in \ibmlan\ibmlan.ini is set
to report a maximum of 2Gb freespace to DOS programs - it's in the
wrkheuristics= line.


Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: pauncz@attglobal.net                              08-Dec-99 15:19:01
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:20
Subj: Lotus SmartSuite v1.5 released

From: "Tom Pauncz" <pauncz@attglobal.net>

IBM/Lotus have released SmartSuite for OS/2 v1.5. You can download a copy from
http://www.lotus.com. 

Cheers,
Tom Pauncz


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From: ispalten@us.ibm.com                               08-Dec-99 13:38:29
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:21
Subj: Re: fix pack installaton

From: Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com>

Ivan, not sure how you are installing the FP over the LAN, you were not
very specific.

The reason for the re-boot is to handle LOCKED FILES. No way around it.
FSERVICE should have terminated after it displayed the message and the
user responded. 

There is a README.CID with the FP, read that as it might help.

Irv

Ivan Tang wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> I am trying to install an OS2 fix pack in the computers in our LAN. In order
> to minimize the possible interpution to our users, I am using
> the unattended mode and a response file to install the fix pack.
> 
> My question is: At the end of the installation, it prompts the users
> to enter ctrl-alt-del to restart the computer. After rebooting
> the PC, the fix pack installation program, fservice.exe, is still running. I
> just wonder how to make this fservice.exe to terminated by
> itself?  I have read books about the CID installation, and found
> that there is a key word "RebootRequired" could make the PC to restart
> itself by adding it into the response file, but the
> response file comes with the fix pack  did not allow me to add such
> word, what have I done wrong?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Victor
> email: victor.hw.tang@hkjc.org.hk

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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  08-Dec-99 15:30:29
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:21
Subj: Re: Dialer settings

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-mO8jD6CJxkpy@localhost>, on 12/07/99 at 01:37 AM,
   fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk) said:

>     Thanks for the suggestions.  However, after  trying all that a  few
>times, the settings notebook doesn't come up at all - nothing  happens. 
>Apparently, it's just vanished.  If you have any other  ideas, I'd
>appreciate them.  If not, I suppose it's time to  uninstall/reinstall,
>which I'm wondering if it's worth the time since  it didn't seem to help
>you.  I've temporarily gone back to Ver. 1.66  (1.67?) & all works fine
>     Like you, I don't have the foggiest idea what happened.  
>     Thanks again.

>FWK

The last time this happened to me, and it did, I went back to an old
version that I had prudently not erased and then downloaded the latest
version again.  No problems since then.  THis problem is not unusual, but
no one knows why it happens. -- 
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
mchasson@ibm.net
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51 

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From: dd@dandrake.com                                   08-Dec-99 21:53:03
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 19:54:21
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 questions

From: dd@dandrake.com (Dan Drake)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 06:48:09, yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh) wrote:

PMFJI-- 

>...
> 
> There seems to be a group of problems related to loading graphics
> that results in 100% CPU usage and very low throughput ( < 1k/sec).
> 
> For http sites (at least) this can be "caused" by setting NC's
> disk cache to zero.  Resetting it to 64 or 128k cures the problem.

But there must be other pieces to the puzzle.  I had this problem when I 
had a large disk cache enabled, and I don't think it got worse when I set 
the cache to zero, after installing Smartcache.  

Here's a funny one: just yesterday I was trying to get a page, 
non-graphical, that runs to 800 kilobytes.  After getting maybe 6% of it, 
NS would bog down.  So I went to version 4.04, and the page loaded just 
fine.  Now the page is in Smartcache, and I can access it fine with 4.61. 
The program really works!  (And I *don't* mean NS 4.61 or anything else 
that Netscrape has ever done.)

Look out, though, if you want to use the smartcache feature that diddles 
the Referer field.  Some little bugs in it.  Details on request.

Back to the subject--

> For the one https site I access (my bank), this doesn't help.
> Instead, I've found that opening one of NC's dialogs gets things
> moving again.  I use "File->Save as" since it's non-modal and can
> be left open. 

Interesting.  Will have to try this.

-- 
Dan Drake
dd@dandrake.com
http://www.dandrake.com/index.html

What exactly was the sin of Sodom?
Explicit details at
http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?ezekiel+16:49

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                08-Dec-99 18:31:07
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: Recovery lost data (HELP!!!)

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Sybille L‚tang <letang.sybille@hydro.qc.ca> said:

>Does anyone know how can I retrieve my data on my HPFS drive? My file
>table has been corrupted, but I desperately need the data on my drive.

If it is valuable enough you can have it retrieved by a commercial
operation.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   08-Dec-99 17:50:02
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: Lotus SmartSuite v1.5 released

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

Actually, the web site says:

"SmartSuite customers that have purchased a Passport agreement will receive 
Release 1.5 automatically. To purchase
SmartSuite for OS/2 Warp 4 Release 1.5, contact your nearest Lotus sales 
office, an authorized Lotus reseller or Business
Partner, visit the LotusStore or call 1-800-343-5414 (In Canada, call 
1-800-GO-LOTUS, outside North America
617-577-8500)."

& a call to the US# got me the information that:

1.	We've had a lot of calls today.
2.	It will not be available until Dec.21



On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 15:19:02 -0500 (EST), Tom Pauncz wrote:

:>  IBM/Lotus have released SmartSuite for OS/2 v1.5. You can download a copy 
from
:>  http://www.lotus.com. 
:>  
:>  Cheers,
:>  Tom Pauncz
:>  
:>  


Peter

*/------------------------------------------------------
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Wadsack Management; Madison WI USA
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From: huffd@nls.net                                     09-Dec-99 00:03:15
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: Can someone help me?

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

It was the Smalltalk development environment 1973. Xerox Palo Alto Research
Center (PARC)
Dr. Alan Kay was the father of what we today call GUI.

And as I understand the story Steve Jobs first saw it during a tour then Bill
theAnti-Christ Gates stole it from him.

radu wrote:

> Was OS/2 or NeXT the first os with an OO GUI?
> If OS/2, than it might be quoted as having the first CORBA based OO GUI
> (OS/2 v2.0, I think).
> Good luck with your exam!
> Radu
>
> Jugulator wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am preparing an exam at my college on Operating Systems. I would like
> > to
> > quote OS/2 as the first ever OS for PC with a GUI. The first version of
> > OS/2
> > with Presentation Manager was OS/2 1.1, released in 1989. Can someone
> > give me that release, 1.1? Please, I really need it, I would like to
> > make a good job and OS/2 not to be forget.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Jugulator
> >
> > Please Note : I am not interested in other OS/2 1.x versions, I need
> > 1.1, because of his historical importance. Thanks

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From: ernfisch@home.com                                 09-Dec-99 00:06:00
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: ernfisch@home.com (Ernie Fisch)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:23:40, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug 
Bissett) wrote:

> 
> To, sort of, answer your question, Just substitute BootOS2 diskettes 
> for UTILITY diskettes in the BA/2000 (or any other program that will 
> run from a diskette boot) docs, and use them as you would the UTILITY 
> diskettes.

BA2000 supports bootos2.  Today I made a set of disaster recovery
diskettes based on bootos2.  With the correct command line switch I
used BA2000 (actually drdisks) to create the recovery diskettes after
making my two bootos2 diskettes.  Simple and straightforward.  Bye bye
utility diskettes.

Oh yes, I ordered BA2000.

ernie fisch

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From: ernfisch@home.com                                 09-Dec-99 00:08:25
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: ernfisch@home.com (Ernie Fisch)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:23:40, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug 
Bissett) wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 21:46:44, gbooth@rockisland.com wrote:
> 
> > Brad:  I 've downloaded,  installed & registered  BA2000 because it was
> > the only program that appeared to work on a secondary SCSI card for my DAT
> > drive; but no where can I find  mention of using BootOS2 as part of a
> > disaster recovery procedure. Could you elucidate?
> >  
> > Thanks for a great product, and for keeping the faith for OS/2 users.
> >  
> > regards,
> >  
> > Gary Boothman 
> 
> I would like to comment on this. I don't know if the BA/2000 
> documentation mentions BootOS2, or not, and it doesn't really matter. 
>
..
 
> To, sort of, answer your question, Just substitute BootOS2 diskettes 
> for UTILITY diskettes in the BA/2000 (or any other program that will 
> run from a diskette boot) docs, and use them as you would the UTILITY 
> diskettes.

BA/2000 now supports bootos2.  You can create disaster recovery
diskettes with bootos2 boot disks.  It is one of the options and is 
really
quite painless.

ernie fisch

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From: dcurren@ibm.net                                   09-Dec-99 00:14:19
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: cdrecord/2 new ver - problem

From: dcurren@ibm.net (Dale Curren)

nemo@union.edu wrote:

>I have a Ricoh 7060s hooked into a Tekram adaptor; it is my ownly
>cd-drive; I'm at Warp 4, FP#10 (as I recall).

I have a yamaha 4416s and I could never get it to work until I updated
the tekram bios.  But I have a 390F which has an updatable bios.
After the update, everything started working.

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From: Spammers@Bite.Me                                  08-Dec-99 23:10:25
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: Lotus SmartSuite v1.5 released

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>

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Well I saw where you could order it... where can I download it??

On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 15:19:02 -0500 (EST), Tom Pauncz wrote:

>IBM/Lotus have released SmartSuite for OS/2 v1.5. You can download a copy
from
>http://www.lotus.com. 
>
>Cheers,
>Tom Pauncz
>
>

Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.

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From: mschmidt@home.com                                 09-Dec-99 00:41:03
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: Long file names

From: Michael Schmidt <mschmidt@home.com>

If you wanted to cross Mr. Gate's palm with a little more silver, you
could do Win98 and a FAT32 partition. There is an OS/2 .ifs FAT32 driver
floating around (I faound it at OS/2 hq). You can then copy files into
that partition from winland and out from OS2land (or vice versa) with no
long file name or ea problems - at least none that I've seen.

Cheers

"A. Willard Reese" wrote:
> 
>         Can someone tell me how I can get long filenames (with spaces in
> them) from Win95 FAT16 partition to OS2 on an HPFS partition on the
> same hard drive.
>         I have a cdrom with over 150 *.TIF files with long filenames that
OS2
> refuses to read.  Win95 reads them and downloads them just fine into a
> FAT partition.  If I copy them from the Fat partition into OS2 all the
> filenames are truncated (xxxxx~1.tif). Is there any  way that I can
> copy these files, with the long filenames intact, from that FAT
> partition into OS2 without renaming every file?
>         I'm appreciative of any help or suggestions you might offer.  I'm
> really stumped.
> Willard

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From: pauncz@ibm.net                                    08-Dec-99 18:32:03
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: Lotus SmartSuite v1.5 released

From: "Tom Pauncz" <pauncz@ibm.net>

I heard it second hand .. sorry .. I also cannot find it ..

On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 23:10:51 GMT, Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. wrote:

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:>Well I saw where you could order it... where can I download it??
:>
:>On Wed, 08 Dec 1999 15:19:02 -0500 (EST), Tom Pauncz wrote:
:>
:>>IBM/Lotus have released SmartSuite for OS/2 v1.5. You can download a copy
from
:>>http://www.lotus.com. 
:>>
:>>Cheers,
:>>Tom Pauncz
:>>
:>>
:>
:>Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   08-Dec-99 18:48:02
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: voicetype stopped working

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

at the worst possible time, of course.

Finally, I selectively uninstalled, then reinstalled it.  This put it out of 
sync, missing fixpak corrections.

So I discovered that <Service.exe> won't find VoiceType [installed on a 
different drive than OS/2] to service.  Long story, but I did it manually.
Except now I get:

------------------------------------------------------------

12-07-1999  11:25:00  SYS3175  PID 0047  TID 0001  Slot 0072
M:\VT\SPCH_BIN\ENROLL.EXE
c0000005
1f3223f8
P1=00000001  P2=00000001  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000001  EBX=00000001  ECX=000438fc  EDX=00043868
ESI=00000003  EDI=ffffffff  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1f3223f8  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:000437e4  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00043850  FLG=00012296

OS2OM30.DLL 0001:000023f8

------------------------------------------------------------

So, what is <OS2OM30.DLL> anyway?  What to do?

 

Peter

*/------------------------------------------------------
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Wadsack Management; Madison WI USA
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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 08-Dec-99 19:40:17
  To: All                                               08-Dec-99 21:21:26
Subj: Re: Recovery lost data (HELP!!!)

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Sybille =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=E9tang?= <letang.sybille@hydro.qc.ca> wrote:

>Hi!
>
>Does anyone know how can I retrieve my data on my HPFS drive? My file
>table has been corrupted, but I desperately need the data on my drive.
>
>What about Gammatech?  It is a good software?
>
Overpriced for what it does; Graham Utilities is superior
imo.

But before those, you might try DFSEE.  It's a very complex
(and somewhat dangerous) OS/2 file system utility.  I'm not sure it can do
what you wish, but try downloading it at 

	ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/dfsee310.zip

Here's dfsee310.txt:

 Display and analyze file systems HPFS, FAT(32), NTFS,
 partitions (FDISK, SETBOOT), undelete for HPFS and NTFS.
 A text-only utility for analyzing and sometimes fix
 problems in your disk and filesystems. Includes a
 full functional FDISK module

Actually before you proceed much further you might post
exactly what your problems are.  Folks much more
knowledgeable than I may be able to help.

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     09-Dec-99 01:42:19
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:03
Subj: Re: Lotus SmartSuite v1.5 released

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

I went to the Indelible Blue site for pricing -- No Way In HELL $649
Talk about sticker shock!
I thought it was the 1970's revisited. The only thing missing was the purple
hue
around the numbers!
Not till I looked thrice did I believe my eyes!

So that's the way it ends, they sell only 1000 copies to those that can afford 
it
and rightfully drop the product line due to lack of interest.

After looking at the IBM marketing picture drugs may seem like an alternative
life
style. But it isn't. There is always an alternative. If I have to choose
between
drugs and Bill theAnti-Christ Gates...well I'd switch to Linux. That's it I'd
switch to Linux. But NOT YET! NOT FREAKING YET!!!!!!!

Tom Pauncz wrote:

> IBM/Lotus have released SmartSuite for OS/2 v1.5. You can download a copy
from
> http://www.lotus.com.
>
> Cheers,
> Tom Pauncz

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From: rdegenna@utk.edu                                  08-Dec-99 20:36:24
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Netscape 4.61 won't even load now!

From: "Ramon P. DeGennaro" <rdegenna@utk.edu>

-- 
Two problems with Communicator 4.61, fixpack 10, warp 4.0:

First, what would make a java application crash netscape?  I installed
Commmunicator 4.61 a few weeks ago and recently upgraded my java to
1.1.8, with the October fix (Java -fullversion says build 19991026).  I
could run two java games (the lunar lander and targ) fine after that, at
least until a week ago. 
  
Then suddenly I couldn't run either.  The only change I remember making
is fonts, and changing them back didn't help.  Netscape loaded fine, but
when I dropped the games lunar.html or targ.html on it, it closed
itself.  FWIW, I tried enabling java on Netscape 2.02 and got the same
result.  Also FWIW, I my son's old 486 still works fine with
Communicator 4.61 and Java 1.1.8, installed the same way as on my
computer.

Second problem, resulting from trying to fix the first:
This was the current classpath, which points to 2.02 stuff:

d:\netscape\njclass.zip;D:\javaos2\lib\jempcl10.zip;.\.;C:\java11\lib\SecMa.jar
;

I appended the following, which points to the 4.61 stuff:

e:\Netscape\PROGRAM\java\classes\118\118.zip

Now, 4.61 won't even load.  The icon annimates, then returns to normal. 
Since it won't load, I can't restore the classpath to the 2.02 stuff.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Ray DeGennaro

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From: alan@resgroup.com                                 08-Dec-99 17:48:10
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: "Alan C. Whitehouse" <alan@resgroup.com>

Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com> wrote in message
news:126280594467272810993502@MWCTP...
>
>
> Help!
>
> The company that I work for is searching for a manufacturing/accounting
> system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.
> No windows 9x or NT.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>

A time travel machine perhaps?


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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      08-Dec-99 23:30:01
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Long file names

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <384de48e-nukewaste@wwivbbs.org>, "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org> 
writes:

>RE: Re: Long file names
>BY: csaba_r@my-deja.com (Csaba Raduly)
>
>>Can't you read the CD in OS/2 (remember the /W switch for CDFS.IFS)

>what version of OS/2 does the CDFS.IFS /W switch valid under?
>
>I don't ever recall seeing that switch before.

It first appeared in Warp v3 FP35 or so (probably around Warp 
v4 FP4).  It is also available separately in a CDFS.IFS driver 
from hobbes:

ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/drivers/filesys/jcdfs.zip

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               08-Dec-99 21:12:28
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Recovery lost data (HELP!!!)

From: letoured@nospam.net

>What about Gammatech?  It is a good software?

I've used it to recover data -- Not with your particular problem, but it
worked.



_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               08-Dec-99 21:29:15
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Recovery lost data (HELP!!!)

From: letoured@nospam.net

raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said:

>>What about Gammatech?  It is a good software?
>>
>Overpriced for what it does; Graham Utilities is superior
>imo.

Perhaps. But if he had it and used the backup boot sector utility, his
problem would be fixed in about 30 seconds. It also restores deleted
partitions, and recovers files by directory -- which is worth everything
if the drive has thousands of files.




>But before those, you might try DFSEE.  It's a very complex
>(and somewhat dangerous) OS/2 file system utility.  I'm not sure it can
>do what you wish, but try downloading it at 

>	ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/dfsee310.zip

>Here's dfsee310.txt:

> Display and analyze file systems HPFS, FAT(32), NTFS,
> partitions (FDISK, SETBOOT), undelete for HPFS and NTFS.
> A text-only utility for analyzing and sometimes fix
> problems in your disk and filesystems. Includes a
> full functional FDISK module

>Actually before you proceed much further you might post
>exactly what your problems are.  Folks much more
>knowledgeable than I may be able to help.


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            09-Dec-99 02:53:19
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Back Again/2000

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

Brad:

I already ordered my upgrade to BA/2000 Workstation version, but now I
am wondering whether I jumped the gun.

When I checked my machine this morning, I found that it had totally
locked up, displaying messages about the swap file being full.

I rebooted, and CHKDSK proceeded to remove a whole bunch of "corrupted"
files -- some of them files without which the system would not boot. I
rebooted to my maintenance partition, checked the space on the partition
where the swap file resides, and found that there was indeed very little
space left -- because BA/2000 had left 90+ MB of temporary files.

Oh, well. Time to try out the crash recovery procedure. Boot from crash
recovery disks, and run crash recovery program. Tape drive (Archive
4586NP autoloader) goes through the expected sequence of search, read,
rewind, search, read, ready -- but the BA/2000 crash recovery program
displays no backup sets from which I can choose. Nor does it find any
sets on any of the tapes to which I had made backups with BA/2000!

Next step: figure out which files are preventing a normal reboot,copy
them back from the maintenance partition. Reboot. Run the regular
BA/2000 program, and there are the backup sets on the tapes.

Comments? Suggestions?

Alan

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From: patrickp@mediaone.net                             09-Dec-99 02:59:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: "patrickp" <patrickp@mediaone.net>

> > Help!
> >
> > The company that I work for is searching for a manufacturing/accounting
> > system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.
> > No windows 9x or NT.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!
>

  Check out SBT systems; their VP2000 package offers a solid paltform under
Xbase which will run Win 3.1 & DOS and I have successfully run it under OS/2
(The DOS platform)  Let me know if I may be of further assistance

P


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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            09-Dec-99 03:00:03
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: BootOS2 "disk full" problem

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

Well, thank you. Why wasn't I smart enough to think of that?

The files all fit on the disks now, BUT when I try to boot from them it
bombs out on the second disk with a message about not being able to find
a message file for error 0004 -- BSH.MSG, I think.

Alan


David Kunz wrote:
> 
> Some of the files have grown in size.  Get and use the lzlite option
> to compress the dll and exe files.

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            09-Dec-99 03:14:03
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

Does the BA/2000 crash recovery program work for you, Ernie?

Mine sees no sets on the tape.

Alan


Ernie Fisch wrote:

 <snip>
> 
> BA/2000 now supports bootos2.  You can create disaster recovery
> diskettes with bootos2 boot disks.  It is one of the options and is
> really quite painless.
>

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From: twh270@hotmail.com                                08-Dec-99 21:43:26
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Netscape 404 profiles

From: Thomas Wheeler <twh270@hotmail.com>

Hi folks,

I have a simple question: where does Netscape 404 store profiles?  I
can't find them anywhere that makes sense (to me).

Note, I prefer an email response (twh270@hotmail.com).

Thanks in advance,
Thomas Wheeler
twh270@hotmail.com


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From: tjerick@ibm.net                                   09-Dec-99 03:52:27
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Lotus SmartSuite v1.5 released

From: tjerick@ibm.net (Tim Erickson)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 01:42:39, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> 
wrote:

> I went to the Indelible Blue site for pricing -- No Way In HELL $649
> Talk about sticker shock!
> I thought it was the 1970's revisited. The only thing missing was the purple 
hue
> around the numbers!
> Not till I looked thrice did I believe my eyes!
> 
> So that's the way it ends, they sell only 1000 copies to those that can
afford it
> and rightfully drop the product line due to lack of interest.

Lets not get too worried about this. I called Lotus Canada today and 
inquired about the 1.5 release, without asking for a freebie, the 
Lotus rep said they'd send it to me free. No cost, no charge, nada. I 
also inquired about purchasing additional licenses and was told the 
cost would be $159USD, or around $225CDN. The product will not ship 
until the 21st of December and I can wait that long without trouble. 
There may be a delay until Jan 3rd but nothing official yet. I 
promised I wouldn't tell . . .[evil grin]. Nothing worry over though.

Tim

I expect the bleating of the M$ cattle will get louder in the next few
weeks as cattle always do when they smell the charnel house, alas for 
them, too late!

----Me, Nov 1999

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From: srussel3@midsouth.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 03:56:06
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: "Stephen Russell" <srussel3@midsouth.rr.com>

Sounds like a poor request.

I want a new car with a straight six, shift on the column and no air
conditioning.

__Stephen

"Michael W. Cocke" <cocke@catherders.com> wrote in message
news:126280594467272810993502@MWCTP...
>
>
> Help!
>
> The company that I work for is searching for a manufacturing/accounting
> system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.
> No windows 9x or NT.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>     Please note:  My Email and web page addresses are changing in January
2000.
>                      The new email address is cocke@catherders.com
>                       The web page is at http://www.catherders.com
>
>                     Because network administration is like herding cats.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>
>
>


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From: rolf@together.net                                 08-Dec-99 23:10:00
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Back Again/2000

From: "Rolf Lochb?hler" <rolf@together.net>

On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 02:53:39 GMT, Alan Beagley wrote:

>Oh, well. Time to try out the crash recovery procedure. Boot from crash
>recovery disks, and run crash recovery program. Tape drive (Archive
>4586NP autoloader) goes through the expected sequence of search, read,
>rewind, search, read, ready -- but the BA/2000 crash recovery program
>displays no backup sets from which I can choose. Nor does it find any
>sets on any of the tapes to which I had made backups with BA/2000!

Just an idea...

My version of BA/2, namely 3.10a, returns Error 6304 ("No matching
backup set found") if the boot disk is not writeable or if there is
not enough space on the disk to create index files.


rl




--
Rolf Lochb�hler <rolf@together.net>
http://homepages.together.net/~rolf


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From: jr_fox@earthlink.net                              08-Dec-99 21:02:28
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: OS2 USB and video camera

From: "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net>

Mark O. Schlegel wrote:
> 
> "J. R. Fox" wrote:
>
>>           http://users.uniserve.ca/~software/dcitu/
>>
>> is the last URL I had for them.
>>
>> <jf>
> 
> That link results in:
> 
> File Not Found
> The requested URL /~software/dcitu/ was not found on this server.
> 
> Mark

That's why I had to qualify that statement, and that's what 
happens when one doesn't visit a bookkmarked URL for 8 months or so. 
Fortunately, others here had the new site address.

<jf>

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From: jr_fox@earthlink.net                              08-Dec-99 21:18:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Zip 100 parallel

From: "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net>

Bob Germer wrote:
> 
>    dave@david-lister.co.uk said:
> 
> > I have just bought a Zip 100 parallel port drive and have FP12
> > installed. I have no problems at all with the drive working - in fact,
> > I'm surprised how easy it was to set up.   The problem I have is that I
> > can't get the Tools to install. The Windows setup program tells me there
> > are no Iomega devices installed.  Is this the problem you are

> > describing?  If not, how did you get the tools to install?
> 
> There are two disks with the OS/2 drivers. You must use selective install
> and choose the windows tools after the drive is set up for OS/2.
> 
>

The PP Zip 100 uses only the Iomega supplied OAD drivers.  As far as the
ZipTools go (which were _supposed to_ work under Win-OS2, I don't think
I've *ever* heard from another user who got these to work.  (And I've
wasted a lot of time with Iomega FaxBack tech docs on this, etc.) 
AFAIK, the ZipTools for OS2 were D.O.A.  If I ever need to use any of
that stuff, I do it from NT, with the NT version of the Tools.

<jf>

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From: jr_fox@earthlink.net                              08-Dec-99 21:30:20
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: OS2 Word processor

From: "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net>

Daniel Say wrote:
> 
> letoured@nospam.net wrote:
> :>The best text editor for writers, period, is XyWrite.
> 
> : That really depends upon what one is writing!
> : _____________
> : Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>
> 
>         No, Xywrite (4 more than version 3) is
>         so configurable and customizable for the
>         writing (not pretty printing) process that
>         it is an ideal tool.
> 
>         Pretty printing is best done with print to
>         Postscript and then to Ghostscript universal
>         printer drivers.
> 
>         Spellchecking on the fly, Impossibly fast
>         search and replace, a wonderful programming
>         language for macros, spellers with auto expand
>         of truncations and fast, f a s t, f  a  s   t
>         Darn quick.
> 
> 

Amen to that.  And don't forget to check out 

     http://www.serve.com/xywwweb/    

for some pretty amazing ----.  Not bad for a product that fell off the
last radar screen 8 years ago !

<jf>

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           09-Dec-99 00:38:23
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ...

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <1bMmtd7zwYPT-pn2-d8Y9TDwOoURq@localhost>, on 12/08/99 at 04:22 PM,
   SkidMARX@att.net said:

> Hello,

> I'm using Warp 4 with Fixpak 12 and having problems with the RSJ 
> burning package.

> The CDROM is on my secondary IDE port as a slave device. 
> The burner I have is listed as a supported model - RSJ has the model 
> number listed wrong.  They show it as a Memorex CW-4224 when actually 
> it's a CD-RW4224, so I modified the cddrv.inf data file ...

> ~ Because it's NOT scsi do I need to still load the RSJSCSI.sys  driver?
> ~ And the corresponding DMD file?

Yes. Here is the RSJ segment of my config.sys where the atapi burner is
the only ide device:

REM *** RSJ CD-Writer File System ***                             
BASEDEV=RSJIDECD.FLT                                              
BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT -i:"ATAPI"                                    
DEVICE=H:\CDWFS\RSJSCSI.SYS                                       
IFS=H:\CDWFS\CDWFS.IFS                                            
RUN=H:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "J:/TEMP" -c40000 -b8192 -t2 -i3 -s2   


> ~ Does placement of the RSJ statements within config.sys have any 
> bearing?  I've moved them to the begining of config.sys without any 
> success.

They should be at the end after all other file system drivers are loaded.
You must also rem out ibmidecd.flt.

> ~ When the RSJ system is installed/loaded properly should I have a 
> standard CDROM icon within "Connections" for reading typical data 
> cdroms?  And then when I "attach" a blank cdrom using RSJ should I  then

No. You must attach a disk for it to be seen by other than CDVIEW which
will only see track information, not file information.

> have an additional icon for the attached disk, listed as whatever drive
> designator I used during the attach process?  This is my  understanding
> of the way RSJ operates.

No. You misunderstand. In my case, I have volumes from C to J on my hard
disk. Drive K is my SCSI CD Rom. If I do not run attach, I do not have an
L drive. Once I attach the burner with either a writable or a written disk
in it, then and only then does L drive show up.

> ~ If I just accept the default install parameters my drive is not seen
> as a "Worm" device, but if I use the -i:"BURNER_NAME" parameter when 
> loading the LOCKFLT it is seen and listed as a Worm device, so I  assume
> the load was successful.  Does this make sense?

The load was successful and it is working as it was designed.

> ~ If I rem out the Lockflt completely the drive is not indentied at 
> all.  Is THAT normal?

Absolutely.




--
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---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.01 Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: xxctheronxx@xxiafricaxx.com                       08-Dec-99 17:50:24
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 03:31:04
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: "Chris Theron" <xxctheronxx@xxiafricaxx.com>

Now, who is correct, J. R. Fox who says to cahnge to Courier New, 
or Jeffey S. Kobal who says to change to Courier?


On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 18:34:48 -0500, J. R. Fox wrote:

>Couldn't swear to it, but this sounds like it could be that unsupported font
>problem, where you have to change from the default (Courier, I think) to
Courier
>New ?


On Tue, 07 Dec 1999 07:40:53 GMT, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

>Dilbert Firestorm wrote:
>
>> Now the problem.  Actually it's two.
>
>Actually, you were right the first time; both of those are
>one single problem with the font selection.  Your system
>is not displaying the Courier New font (either it wasn't
>installed, usually because you didn't install Win-OS/2, or
>it isn't supported by your video driver), so you should go
>to Edit->Preferences, select Fonts, and change the Fixed
>Width font to Courier instead.
Chris Theron
Durbanville
South Africa


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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               09-Dec-99 01:12:09
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 05:20:03
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems
BY: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr

>Try some of the other Fixed Width font selections.  The
>symptoms you describe indicate that the Fixed Width font
>for your default encoding is not displaying correctly.
-
the problems's fixed. It was indeed the font size.
-


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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               09-Dec-99 01:12:09
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 05:20:03
Subj: Re: Long file names

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: Long file names
BY: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

>At least Warp 3.0 FP 40 - I'd guess 4.0 FP 12.
-
really?  welps, time to upgrade my fixpack from 38 to 40.



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From: Roger.Skolmen@f347.n109.z1.fidon...               07-Dec-99 09:29:00
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 05:20:03
Subj: Re: tape backup program

Message sender: Roger.Skolmen@f347.n109.z1.fidonet.org

From: Roger.Skolmen@f347.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Roger Skolmen)

In a message dated 12-06-99, spamtrap@cds-inc.com said to All:

BB>From: spamtrap@cds-inc.com (Brad Benson)

B>Back Again/2 v4.0i had an all new utility for creating the boot
BB>disks, stolen from the then-still-under-wraps Back Again/2000
BB>product we announced last month.  It made diskette creation much
BB>easier.

BB>For BA/2000, we re-did the disaster recovery process completely. 
BB>The utility diskette tool now updates Warp3 and Warp4 utility
BB>diskettes as well as those created by BootOS2, and the disaster
BB>recovery HotStart provides a wizard-like, mouse-driven interface
BB>to the disaster recovery process.  

BB>Last spring we took a survey of what people liked and didn't like
BB>about BA/2; the disaster recovery process was the largest "wart". 
BB>It worked pretty well, people said, but configuring the diskettes
BB>could be maddening.  We worked extremely hard to simply the
BB>process with this new thing.

Two complaints with BA/2000. Add to the help or readme files that
Bootos2 can be used instead of the create utility disk kludge.  I
discovered this for myself. Secondly, get rid of the trap that
finds one of the devices called for in CLTAPE unavailable at
bootup.  For example, I have 4 OS2 machines and move a parallel
port zip drive from one to another as needed.  I know when it
is there and when it is not.  I do not need to get an error message
about this each time I boot up when it isn't attached. 

Roger Skolmen
___
 * MR/2 2.26 NR * 

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From: jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es                       09-Dec-99 10:11:11
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 05:20:03
Subj: Re: ess1878

From: jmandres <jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es>

Perhaps you can try the modified driver post by Daniela Engert to hobbes
(m2eos210.zip).  It worked for me in my Toshiba laptop with ESS Maestro 2
sound card.

Good luck

blevinsl@sisna.com escribi¢:

> Can somone tell me what I need to do to get my sound card (ess1878) to
> work on my SONY 705? I have downloaded the 1878 driver from several
> different sources, they seem  to be indentical, and have tried every
> permutation I can think of. It traps at es18781$. I have FP 12 on Warp 4
> running, I have checked dma and irq for conflict (I run a standalone
> system and am stripped near to bare), made sure the old support was
> removed, tried installing to the prefixpak MMOS2, tried changing the
> bios to a non PnP setting etc.
>       With quite a bit of work I have managed to get the SONY to run OS2
> well. I used the NeoMagicZV driver (instead of the ZX) and SIO makes the
> built-in modem work, (couldn't get to work with COM.SYS) Thanks

--
Jos? Manuel Andr?s
Instituto de Carboqu­mica, CSIC
Mar­a de Luna 12
50015 - Zaragoza
ESPA¾A / SPAIN
jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es or jmandres@tornado.icb.csic.es


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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  09-Dec-99 09:09:25
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 10:23:11
Subj: Show/print uninstalled fonts

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

I post this to *.programmer as well as to ".apps, because I am asking
either for an existing application or for hints about programming
something myself!

What I would like is a little program that lets me choose a number of
font files (ATM or TT) and print examples of them all so I could get an
easy overview of the one or other font collection.

I have found "ShowFont" so far and tried it already several times, but I
must say I hate the way it is crippled in the demo version: I cannot
even try it out because even the file dialogs are crippled so that I
cannot get to the directories where the files to look at reside! And if
I want to print something it just crashes! I have many shareware
programs paid and registered, even if they only halfway fit my needs,
but this is something I really have problems with: The demo unusable and
crashing and I should then hope that the registered version is better??

So far about existing apps (or the one app) I know about: Are there
others, for free or as a not too expensive shareware?

If not I am coming to part 2: Do-it-yourself...

I did some graphics programming already for my Astronomy software (see
below), also with fonts and including printing; I even created my own
Astro fonts with Corel Draw 5 (WinOS2), installed and used them in my
programs.

However, I did not find an API function that allows me to load and use a
not-installed ATM or TT file: GpiLoadFont seems to only load bitmap
fonts (*.FON).

Of course I could install the fonts temporarily, use them and
immediately deinstall them, but also this doesn't seem to be documented
in my VAC++ 3.08 docs (containing a Warp 3 toolkit). Could I just enter
a key with the filename into OS2.INI in the PM_Fonts section (where all
the installed fonts seem to be "registered"), use it and delete the
key afterwards? Doesn't look like a "nice" solution to me, but if
nothing else exists: Why not...?

ShowFont seems to do some really strange things with the PM, because
after the crash many other windows had problems being repainted: This
could be due to the programmer really had to do some dirty tricks to get
uninstalled fonts displayed or it's just part of the crippling of the
demo version - where most of the programming seems to have gone into, as
it seems... Sorry about this kind of negative comments, but I had to get
rid of these impressions somewhere :-)

Thanks for any hints and greetings,
Cornelis Bockemühl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>
Author of "PmAs - Astronomy for the Presentation Manager"
http://www.datacomm.ch/cobo


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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  09-Dec-99 09:22:09
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 questions

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

In article <zzdHjdPQunhi-pn2-8fXqdC58degS@ftm002.usacomputers.net>,
  yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh) wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:08:18, cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Netscape 4.61 (de, with Fortify) works generally great here (no
> > crashes, no freezes etc.), but still some problems/questions remain:
> >
> > - On certain _PAGES_ (or sites?) it becomes painfully slow, almost
not
> > moving any more! Of course this can always be the fault of the other
> > side, but in some cases I tried many times and many different times
of
> > the day or night, i.e. with my bank account. Another URL that could
> > serve as a test case is
> > http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com/mapmachine/
> > Anyone else these problems? Even a workaround or a solution except
just
> > waiting? At least the mapmachine URL works with no problem from my
NT
> > computer at work. A common feature of the "slow places" is their
heavy
> > use of Javascript and other gimmicks...
> [snip]
>
> There seems to be a group of problems related to loading graphics
> that results in 100% CPU usage and very low throughput ( < 1k/sec).

I have no CPU usage monitor on the screen, but the symptoms look very
much what you describe!

> For http sites (at least) this can be "caused" by setting NC's
> disk cache to zero.  Resetting it to 64 or 128k cures the problem.

I actually set it to zero because I am using SmartCache: I will try what
you propose and see if it helps!

> For the one https site I access (my bank), this doesn't help.

:-( Of course my bank site is also a https connection... ah, and it's
not handled by SmartCache, so I actually don't have any disk caching
enabled for such pages right now...

> Instead, I've found that opening one of NC's dialogs gets things
> moving again.  I use "File->Save as" since it's non-modal and can
> be left open.  (Others have suggested clicking on another app's
> window, but that doesn't help me for the https site.)

Thank you for all these hints!

Greetings
Cornelis Bockemühl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>


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From: hei@hatespam.norman.no                            09-Dec-99 11:11:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 10:23:11
Subj: Re: Show/print uninstalled fonts

From: hei@hatespam.norman.no (Harald Eilertsen)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:09:50, cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:

> What I would like is a little program that lets me choose a number of
> font files (ATM or TT) and print examples of them all so I could get an
> easy overview of the one or other font collection.

Have a look at FontFolder. You'll find it at hobbes.

Take Care!
-- 
Harald!

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From: fBeythien@gmx.de                                  09-Dec-99 16:33:28
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ...

From: fBeythien@gmx.de (Frank Beythien)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:22:54, SkidMARX@att.net wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm using Warp 4 with Fixpak 12 and having problems with the RSJ 
> burning package.

Hi, 
why don't you try the rsj newsserver:   news.rsj.de 
group  :  rsj.de.support.cdwriter.os2

posting in english will be understood.

CU/2
-- 
Frank Beythien   fBeythien@gmx.de

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From: ross.ballendine@enerpro.com                       09-Dec-99 17:25:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: "Ross Ballendine" <ross.ballendine@enerpro.com>

Buddy Donnelly <donnelly@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:jORXtcYCR8l4-pn2-NvNvIXm0o7Th@SPHERICALBURN.TAMPABAY.RR.COM...
> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 01:48:21, "Alan C. Whitehouse" <alan@resgroup.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com> wrote in message
> > news:126280594467272810993502@MWCTP...
> > >
> > >
> > > Help!
> > >
> > > The company that I work for is searching for a
manufacturing/accounting
> > > system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.
> > > No windows 9x or NT.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> >
> > A time travel machine perhaps?
>
> Now, now. It might sound jokable but there are *many* offices which
> don't have Win9x or NT. Anywhere. And I've heard of a doctor who
> canned a records temp for breaking an office rule and installing Win95
> on one machine, that she wanted to use to browse the Internet with and
> thought she needed all the googaws for that purpose.
>

Uhm... "googaws"... ?


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From: sctvguy@yahoo.com                                 09-Dec-99 10:29:04
  To: aljohnson@centuryinter.net                        09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: How much memory to run various flavors of OS/2??

To: aljohnson@centuryinter.net
From: Bob Grimes <sctvguy@yahoo.com>


aljohnson@centuryinter.net wrote:
> 
> What is the minimal and optimal amounts of memory required to run the
various
> flavors of OS/2 from 2.11, 3, 4 and beyond.  Please email me and let me
know.
> Hoping that I might be able to run on a machine I have.
> 
> Allen
I run Warp 3 Red on a PS/2, 386 with 4megs.  On a PS/ValuePoint, I run
OS/2 Blue with 40megs.  On an AMD K6-2/400, I run Warp Connect Blue,
Warp 4 with 96megs.  The sweet spot would probably be 16 or 32 megs.

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From: as@sci.fi                                         08-Dec-99 22:29:15
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 15:31:04
Subj: Re: cdrecord/2 new ver - problem

From: Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi>

nemo@union.edu writes:

> In cdrecord when I attempt to write to the cd, I get the following
> message:
> 
> >Fixating...
> >WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.
> >Fixating time:    0.020s
> >Process terminated by SIGTERM
> >F:\cdrecord\cdrecord.exe: fifo had 2 puts and 2 gets.
> >F:\cdrecord\cdrecord.exe: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min
> >fill was 100%.
> 
> (Same thing whether 'dummy mode' or not.)
> 
> I need some help interpreting this and troubleshooting.

It's odd that it would warn about fixating even if you're not in dummy
mode. The SIGTERM comes from the FIFO process, this is mentioned in
the FAQ I think.

Is there an actual problem? What version of cdrecord are you using?

-- 
Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            09-Dec-99 19:55:19
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:10
Subj: Re: Back Again/2000

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

Let me add something here.

Obviously this (i/e., the BA/2000 Crash Recovery program not finding any
backup sets on the tape) is not a problem that other people are
encountering. Perhaps this is somehow connected with the problems I was
experiencing previously with BA/2, even though the symptoms are totally
different.

I am using an ancient tape drive that is no longer supported by the
company (Seagate) that took over the company (Conner) that took over the
original manufacturer (Archive). Who knows what bugs may exist in the
drive or its firmware?

I believe that CDS is a good company that stands behind its products.
Nobody should imagine that my experiences are typical.

Alan Beagley wrote:
> 
> I don't think that can be the problem. Where is there going to be room
> on a floppy to write the index of a large backup?
> 
> Alan
> 
> "Rolf Lochb hler" wrote:
> >
> > My version of BA/2, namely 3.10a, returns Error 6304 ("No matching
> > backup set found") if the boot disk is not writeable or if there is
> > not enough space on the disk to create index files.

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            09-Dec-99 19:57:02
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

Let me add something here.

Obviously this (i/e., the BA/2000 Crash Recovery program not finding any
backup sets on the tape) is not a problem that other people are
encountering. Perhaps this is somehow connected with the problems I was
experiencing previously with BA/2, even though the symptoms are totally
different.

I am using an ancient tape drive that is no longer supported by the
company (Seagate) that took over the company (Conner) that took over the
original manufacturer (Archive). Who knows what bugs may exist in the
drive or its firmware?

I believe that CDS is a good company that stands behind its products.
Nobody should imagine that my experiences are typical.

Alan

Alan Beagley wrote:
> 
> Does the BA/2000 crash recovery program work for you, Ernie?
> 
> Mine sees no sets on the tape.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Ernie Fisch wrote:
> 
>  <snip>
> >
> > BA/2000 now supports bootos2.  You can create disaster recovery
> > diskettes with bootos2 boot disks.  It is one of the options and is
> > really quite painless.
> >

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From: kenkahn@aol.com                                   09-Dec-99 20:24:12
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: BootOS2 "disk full" problem

From: kenkahn@aol.com (Kenkahn)

>BUT when I try to boot from them it
>bombs out on the second disk with a message about not being able to find
>a message file for error 0004 -- BSH.MSG, I think.
>

BSH.MSG is needed by BOOTSH.EXE, which is the PROTSHELL program
used for HPFS386 systems.  Modify the DPATH statement in CONFIG.SYS
on your BOOT disks to point to the place in your hard drive where this file is
located (probably \OS2\SYSTEM) and then see what it's complaining about.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     09-Dec-99 20:14:14
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Zip 100 parallel

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 02:18:08, "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net> wrote:

> The PP Zip 100 uses only the Iomega supplied OAD drivers.  As far as the
> ZipTools go (which were _supposed to_ work under Win-OS2, I don't think
> I've *ever* heard from another user who got these to work.  (And I've
> wasted a lot of time with Iomega FaxBack tech docs on this, etc.) 
> AFAIK, the ZipTools for OS2 were D.O.A.  If I ever need to use any of
> that stuff, I do it from NT, with the NT version of the Tools.
>  
> <jf>
>  

The OS/2 tools (MPREP, and GENOAD)  work just fine, and do everything 
you may want to do with a ZIP disk. 

It is the Win31 tools that are difficult (not impossible) to get 
working under WinOS2. I did manage to get the Win31 tools  working in 
WinOS2, but there was absolutely nothing that they did for me, except 
take up disk space, and blow up the system, if you tried the wrong 
ones (didn't make sense to run the performance thing anyway <g>), so I
deleted them.

There is a driver, somewhere, that needs to be loaded to get the Win31
tools to work in WinOS2. I don't remember if it is with the Win31 
disk, or the OS/2 disks (the later, I think), and I don't remember 
where I found the instructions, but it wasn't easy to find. I also 
don't remember if the driver got loaded in CONFIG.SYS, the DEVICE 
thing in the DOS (or WinOS2) session settings, or in the AUTOEXEC.BAT.

The Win31 tools DO work (limited by what they were designed to do), 
but MPREP, and GENOAD, are the native OS/2 tools, that should be used 
on an OS/2 system. They are not fancy, but they are very functional. 
Of course, if they won't do something, it is nice to be able to boot 
to a DOS/WinXX system to "fix" the problem. So far, I have only had to
do that once, and I have been using my PP ZIP drive for quite a while.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     09-Dec-99 20:14:10
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: BootOS2 "disk full" problem

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 03:00:06, Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net> 
wrote:

> Well, thank you. Why wasn't I smart enough to think of that?
> 
> The files all fit on the disks now, BUT when I try to boot from them it
> bombs out on the second disk with a message about not being able to find
> a message file for error 0004 -- BSH.MSG, I think.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> David Kunz wrote:
> > 
> > Some of the files have grown in size.  Get and use the lzlite option
> > to compress the dll and exe files.

Funny how people seem to think about reading the docs, AFTER they ask 
questions here. Oh well, on to your next question:

On my set of disks (which are obviuosly a little different than yours,
since I can still squeeze a system onto two disks without LxLite -> 
1024 bytes left <g>), the only MSG file on disk 1 is OS2LDR.MSG. On 
disk 2, the only MSG file is \OS2\OSO001.MSG. It is a little difficult
to tell, for sure, if one of those is really what you are having 
trouble with, but if you do "HELP 0004", from a normal command line, 
it will tell you that you cannot find a file. If you look at the 4th 
message in each of the above files, it tells you that you cannot find 
a file. SO, I would assume that BootOS2 has missed some file, that 
your system is looking for.

As I see it, at this point, you can determine which file (either the 
MSG file, or the missing file, which may be the same) which it is 
looking for, and copy it to the diskette from your main system. Once 
you figure out what is missing, look up Ken Khan's internet address 
(it's in the docs), and send him a note, explaining what went wrong. I
am sure that he will try to fix the problem. You should give him as 
much information about the problem as you can (command line used, file
that was missing, what that file is for, etc.).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     09-Dec-99 20:14:13
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:50:48, "Chris Theron" 
<xxctheronxx@xxiafricaxx.com> wrote:

> Now, who is correct, J. R. Fox who says to cahnge to Courier New, 
> or Jeffey S. Kobal who says to change to Courier?
>  

J. S. Kobal is, probably, right...

The problem is that not all systems get the Courier new font installed
(depending on a lot of things), and NS4.61 is set up to default to 
Courier new, and is too dumb to automatically switch to something else
if Courier new is not available. Then again, IF you have Courier new 
installed, and don't have Courier installed (very unusual, but 
possible), J. R. Fox would be correct, and you should make Courier new
your default. If you don't have either font installed (even more 
unusual, but possible), you need to select a font that you do have 
installed. By clicking on the font selection, you will be presented 
with a list of available, appropriate,  fonts, so it should not be 
difficult to find one that will work. If you don't have any 
appropriate fonts available, you should go to selective install, and 
install a few, then select one that will work.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: prather@infi.net                                  09-Dec-99 15:40:10
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Tax Preparation Software

From: prather@infi.net (Jerry Prather)

In message <384FDF22.4CBEC9D7@amecom.com> - Joe Farruggio
<Joe_Farruggio@amecom.com>Thu, 09 Dec 1999 11:56:02 -0500 writes:
:>
:>Joe Farruggio wrote:
:>I asked Intuit and they confirmed that the new Turbotax will not work
:>on Win3.1

Well, that's it for TurboTax, which I have been using for ages! 
I got Kiplinger Tax Cut.  The box claims it's for Win 3.1 and
says it imports from last year's TurboTax.  (Now all I have to do
is bitch to Intuit<G>.)

Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
					- Me (circa 1998)

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From: SkidMARX@att.net                                  09-Dec-99 20:34:29
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ...

From: SkidMARX@att.net

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:33:56, fBeythien@gmx.de (Frank Beythien) wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:22:54, SkidMARX@att.net wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm using Warp 4 with Fixpak 12 and having problems with the RSJ 
> > burning package.
> 
> Hi, 
> why don't you try the rsj newsserver:   news.rsj.de 
> group  :  rsj.de.support.cdwriter.os2
> 
> posting in english will be understood.
> 
> CU/2
> -- 
> Frank Beythien   fBeythien@gmx.de

Frank,

I tried that route with very, very little results ...
I almost got the impression that even RSJ cares very little for OS/2 
users ...

:=(

Thanks,
Gregory L. Marx
skidmarx@att.net

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 21:01:00
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ...

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:34:59, SkidMARX@att.net wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:33:56, fBeythien@gmx.de (Frank Beythien) wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:22:54, SkidMARX@att.net wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I'm using Warp 4 with Fixpak 12 and having problems with the RSJ 
> > > burning package.
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > why don't you try the rsj newsserver:   news.rsj.de 
> > group  :  rsj.de.support.cdwriter.os2
> > 
> > posting in english will be understood.
> > 
> > CU/2
> > -- 
> > Frank Beythien   fBeythien@gmx.de
> 
> Frank,
> 
> I tried that route with very, very little results ...
> I almost got the impression that even RSJ cares very little for OS/2 
> users ...

Hey, nobody cares, except us here.

But in this case, if you've got a multi-server News Client like 
ProNews v.1.5, you can cross-post with a purpose. It wouldn't hurt for
some of this to make it to their server, anyway. (I'm not subscribed 
or I'd start it up.)


-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 21:01:00
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: BootOS2 "disk full" problem

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:24:24, kenkahn@aol.com (Kenkahn) wrote:

> >BUT when I try to boot from them it
> >bombs out on the second disk with a message about not being able to find
> >a message file for error 0004 -- BSH.MSG, I think.
> >
> 
> BSH.MSG is needed by BOOTSH.EXE, which is the PROTSHELL program
> used for HPFS386 systems.  Modify the DPATH statement in CONFIG.SYS
> on your BOOT disks to point to the place in your hard drive where this file
is
> located (probably \OS2\SYSTEM) and then see what it's complaining about.

It's C:\IBM386FS\BSH.MSG on my system.

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 21:00:27
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:25:09, "Ross Ballendine" 
<ross.ballendine@enerpro.com> wrote:
snipt
> > And I've heard of a doctor who
> > canned a records temp for breaking an office rule and installing Win95
> > on one machine, that she wanted to use to browse the Internet with and
> > thought she needed all the googaws for that purpose.
> >
> 
> Uhm... "googaws"... ?
> 

Active-X, Flash, RealViewer, etc.? Googaws.


-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu                        09-Dec-99 16:35:00
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Zip 100 parallel

From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu (Richard Bumby)

"J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net> writes:

>Bob Germer wrote:
>> 
>>    dave@david-lister.co.uk said:
>> 
>> > I have just bought a Zip 100 parallel port drive and have FP12
>> > installed. I have no problems at all with the drive working - in fact,
>> > I'm surprised how easy it was to set up.   ...
>> 
>> There are two disks with the OS/2 drivers. You must use selective install
>> and choose the windows tools after the drive is set up for OS/2.
>> 
>>

>The PP Zip 100 uses only the Iomega supplied OAD drivers.  As far as the
>ZipTools go (which were _supposed to_ work under Win-OS2, I don't think
>I've *ever* heard from another user who got these to work.  ...

Is this the classic Zip 100, or the new version that uses that imm
driver introduced with the Zip Plus?

I bought a Zip Plus when it first came out because it *seemed* to
claim to fully compatible with the classic, while allowing a true scsi
connection.  Neither claim seems to correct, their version of scsi uses
a toy controller, and is like to hose my scsi disks if I were to try
to connect the Zip to my regular scsi bus.  

Through Warp4 FP 10, I have only seen excuses for not having an imm
driver.  Is there anything new?  There is an imm driver in linux, so I
have a way of connecting the Zip to my computer, even if not directly
to my OS/2 system.

-- 
R. T. Bumby **  Rutgers Math || Amer. Math. Monthly Problems Editor 1992--1996
bumby@math.rutgers.edu       ||   
Telephone:    [USA] 732-445-0277 (full-time message line) FAX 732-445-5530

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            09-Dec-99 22:20:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: BootOS2 "disk full" problem

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

I had reaed the docs., but it hadn't ocurred to me that I might need
LXlite even to create a 2-disk floppy set. I assumed it would be needed
only if one were trying to cram everything onto one disk.

You will note that Ken Kahn himself has responded with info about the
missing .MSG file.

Alan


Doug Bissett wrote:
 <snip>

> Funny how people seem to think about reading the docs, AFTER they ask
> questions here. Oh well, on to your next question:
> 
> On my set of disks (which are obviuosly a little different than yours,
> since I can still squeeze a system onto two disks without LxLite ->
> 1024 bytes left <g>), the only MSG file on disk 1 is OS2LDR.MSG. On
> disk 2, the only MSG file is \OS2\OSO001.MSG. It is a little difficult
> to tell, for sure, if one of those is really what you are having
> trouble with, but if you do "HELP 0004", from a normal command line,
> it will tell you that you cannot find a file. If you look at the 4th
> message in each of the above files, it tells you that you cannot find
> a file. SO, I would assume that BootOS2 has missed some file, that
> your system is looking for.
> 
> As I see it, at this point, you can determine which file (either the
> MSG file, or the missing file, which may be the same) which it is
> looking for, and copy it to the diskette from your main system. Once
> you figure out what is missing, look up Ken Khan's internet address
> (it's in the docs), and send him a note, explaining what went wrong. I
> am sure that he will try to fix the problem. You should give him as
> much information about the problem as you can (command line used, file
> that was missing, what that file is for, etc.).
>

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           09-Dec-99 22:47:05
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:00:54, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:25:09, "Ross Ballendine" 
> <ross.ballendine@enerpro.com> wrote:
> snipt
> > > And I've heard of a doctor who
> > > canned a records temp for breaking an office rule and installing Win95
> > > on one machine, that she wanted to use to browse the Internet with and
> > > thought she needed all the googaws for that purpose.
> > >
> > 
> > Uhm... "googaws"... ?
> > 
> 
> Active-X, Flash, RealViewer, etc.? Googaws.
> 

Active-X is a virus portal not a "gewgaw" 


--

Lorne Sunley

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    09-Dec-99 17:33:02
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <pgurebavnsevpnpbz.fmg24n0.pminews@ct-news.iafrica.com>,
"Chris Theron" <xxctheronxx@xxiafricaxx.com> wrote:
>Now, who is correct, J. R. Fox who says to cahnge to Courier New,
>or Jeffey S. Kobal who says to change to Courier?

Courier New is the default ... and it is the one that causes problems
(namely that not all systems have that font installed). Changing to
Courier fixes that problem.

Jeff Kobal is on the Netscape for OS/2 Development Team ... I tend to
listen to what he has to say.

--
**************************************************************
*  Dan Casey                                                 *
*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
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From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com                           10-Dec-99 00:52:27
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: Linkwiz

From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw)

On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 07:06:27, dave@david-lister.co.uk wrote:

> Has anyone had similar problems with v3.03? If so, did you fix them??
> Anyone know what's happened to PCX??? 
> <SNIP>
> Dave Lister
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> dave@david-lister.co.uk                                    
> 
> David Lister Accountancy Services
> http://www.david-lister.co.uk
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 

Don't know what's happened to 'em, Dave.  I've had the same experience
as you've had in trying to get in touch with them about BackupWiz over
the last couple of weeks!
If I find out anything, I'll let you know via e-mail.

George

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    09-Dec-99 19:08:17
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: cdrecord/2 new ver - problem

From: nemo@union.edu

In <aspuwh2n2t.fsf@sci.fi>, on 12/08/99 
   at 10:29 PM, Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> said:

> (Same thing whether 'dummy mode' or not.)
>> 
>> I need some help interpreting this and troubleshooting.

>It's odd that it would warn about fixating even if you're not in dummy
>mode. The SIGTERM comes from the FIFO process, this is mentioned in the
>FAQ I think.

>Is there an actual problem? What version of cdrecord are you using?

I think it's v. 1.2.

I'm not trying to burn audios; I just noticed they specify that as
cdrecord/2's major purpose. I want to read/write data files. Do I need to
install the leech software for that?

The actual problem is that I can't read/write cds.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: nemo@union.edu                                    09-Dec-99 19:11:19
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: cdrecord/2 new ver - problem

From: nemo@union.edu

In <384ef36c.1254926@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, on 12/09/99 
   at 12:14 AM, dcurren@ibm.net (Dale Curren) said:

>nemo@union.edu wrote:

>>I have a Ricoh 7060s hooked into a Tekram adaptor; it is my ownly
>>cd-drive; I'm at Warp 4, FP#10 (as I recall).

>I have a yamaha 4416s and I could never get it to work until I updated
>the tekram bios.  But I have a 390F which has an updatable bios. After
>the update, everything started working.

I've wanted to avoid this but it looks like the next step. Thanks for the
tip. I'll undertake it tonight or over the weekend.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: jpedone_nospam@flash.net                          10-Dec-99 00:17:04
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:11
Subj: Re: voicetype stopped working

From: jpedone_nospam@flash.net

In <jnqfnpxvozarg.fmg4s50.pminews@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, "Peter Wadsack"
<wadsack@ibm.net> writes:
>at the worst possible time, of course.
>
>Finally, I selectively uninstalled, then reinstalled it.  This put it out of 
>sync, missing fixpak corrections.
>
>So I discovered that <Service.exe> won't find VoiceType [installed on a 
>different drive than OS/2] to service.  Long story, but I did it manually.
>Except now I get:
>

This may or may not help but... in the FP read me you'll find:

 6.4 RELOCATED OS/2 FILE SUPPORT

   If you have moved OS/2 files or directories to a drive other than the one
   the SYSLEVEL.OS2 file is on, do the following in order to have them
   serviced:

   Ž  Create a file named USERDIRS.OS2 in the \OS2\INSTALL directory of the
      OS\2 Warp 4 partition to be serviced.

      In this file, place the full path to the directories you want to be
      serviced. Assuming your boot drive is C: and you installed Multimedia
      on the D: drive and manually moved WINOS2 support to the E: drive:

       D:\MMOS2
       D:\MMOS2\DLL
       D:\MMOS2\DSP

You might try creating this file and reapplying the FP...

 
J. Pedone
jpedone@flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
 
Windows NT: Vapourware of the desperate and scared.
Beware of Geeks bearing gifs.

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From: SkidMARX@att.net                                  09-Dec-99 13:35:11
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ... more

From: SkidMARX@att.net

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 05:38:46, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> 
wrote:

> On <1bMmtd7zwYPT-pn2-d8Y9TDwOoURq@localhost>, on 12/08/99 at 04:22 PM,
>    SkidMARX@att.net said:
> 
> > Hello,
> 
> > I'm using Warp 4 with Fixpak 12 and having problems with the RSJ 
> > burning package.
> 
> > The CDROM is on my secondary IDE port as a slave device. 
> > The burner I have is listed as a supported model - RSJ has the model 
> > number listed wrong.  They show it as a Memorex CW-4224 when actually 
> > it's a CD-RW4224, so I modified the cddrv.inf data file ...
> 
> > ~ Because it's NOT scsi do I need to still load the RSJSCSI.sys  driver?
> > ~ And the corresponding DMD file?
> 
> Yes. Here is the RSJ segment of my config.sys where the atapi burner is
> the only ide device:
> 

You misunderstand.  I have NO scsi devices whatsoever. 
The drive is NOT the only IDE device.  I have three other IDE drives.
Even with that the RSJ install program still added the SCSI based 
lines to config.sys

> REM *** RSJ CD-Writer File System ***                             
> BASEDEV=RSJIDECD.FLT                                              
> BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT -i:"ATAPI"                                    
> DEVICE=H:\CDWFS\RSJSCSI.SYS                                       
> IFS=H:\CDWFS\CDWFS.IFS                                            
> RUN=H:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "J:/TEMP" -c40000 -b8192 -t2 -i3 -s2   
> 
> 
> > ~ Does placement of the RSJ statements within config.sys have any 
> > bearing?  I've moved them to the begining of config.sys without any 
> > success.
> 
> They should be at the end after all other file system drivers are loaded.
> You must also rem out ibmidecd.flt.

IBMIDECD.flt is remmed out by the RSJ install routine

> 
> > ~ When the RSJ system is installed/loaded properly should I have a 
> > standard CDROM icon within "Connections" for reading typical data 
> > cdroms?  And then when I "attach" a blank cdrom using RSJ should I  then
> 
> No. You must attach a disk for it to be seen by other than CDVIEW which
> will only see track information, not file information.
> 
> > have an additional icon for the attached disk, listed as whatever drive
> > designator I used during the attach process?  This is my  understanding
> > of the way RSJ operates.
> 
> No. You misunderstand. In my case, I have volumes from C to J on my hard
> disk. Drive K is my SCSI CD Rom. If I do not run attach, I do not have an
> L drive. Once I attach the burner with either a writable or a written disk
> in it, then and only then does L drive show up.
> 

You say "K" is your CDROM.  Can you access it as drive K when RSJ is 
loaded?  If not, then why is it listed as "K"?
The "L" designation, I understand, after you attach a disk via the RSJ
software.  For that matter, it can be whatever drive letter you assign
to it during the attach process.  But if that is the ONLY way to 
access the drive (whether a pre-written disk, or a blank disk) then 
that just doesn't sound correct.

If all I want to do is, say install Smartsuite 1.5 I have to first 
ATTACH the cdrom?
That seems strange to me.  I believe you, mind you, but that just 
appears odd to me.
I would think that using pre-written cdrom's would be the same as 
usually done.

> > ~ If I just accept the default install parameters my drive is not seen
> > as a "Worm" device, but if I use the -i:"BURNER_NAME" parameter when 
> > loading the LOCKFLT it is seen and listed as a Worm device, so I  assume
> > the load was successful.  Does this make sense?
> 
> The load was successful and it is working as it was designed.

I realize the load was successful.  What I'm asking is, should the 
drive be identified WITHOUT the need for the -i: switch?  Afterall, 
the drive is listed in cddrv.inf and the install program doesn't add 
the -i: switch.  So I'm left to ponder.  Just because I can FORCE the 
drive to seen via the -i: switch does it really mean that it is 
actually setup to work properly ?

> 
> > ~ If I rem out the Lockflt completely the drive is not indentied at 
> > all.  Is THAT normal?
> 
> Absolutely.
> 

Thanks Bob for the input ...
Being as we don't have many choices I REALLY want to get RSJ to work.
I even tried a bootleg copy of Unite CDMaker.  It installed properly 
and appeared to write to  a blank disk.
That is the screen prompts via the PM interface said it was, but the 
drive light never blinked or lit once so I know that was not the case.

It's a bitch that Windows 2000 RC2 (a beta product) operates the drive
just fine using the Adaptec EZ software.

Anything else I can try?

Gregory L. Marx
skidmarx@att.net

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From: Thomas.Kellerer@tps-labs.com                      09-Dec-99 14:45:20
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: Vice/2 rel. 1.2

From: Thomas Kellerer <Thomas.Kellerer@tps-labs.com>

Looks nice, but where can I get software? (especially David's Midnight
Magic)

Cheers
Thomas

Thomas Bretz wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> a new release (1.2) of Vice/2 - the OS/2 port of VICE - the versatile
> commodore emulator - is available.
> 
> Vice/2 uses DIVE and DART at the moment.
> 
> Please send bugreports and suggestions to mailto:tbretz@gsi.de
> 
> You can find the binaries at:
> http://www.prakt.physik.tu-muenchen.de/tbretz/vice2/
> 
> Have fun,
> Thomas.

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        09-Dec-99 14:10:05
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Xcopy with re-start options

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

Has anyone ever come across a utility which is equivalent to XCOPY but
with option to do a re-start from a point of failure?

ie something akin to wget -c -r for ftping.

--
John


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 14:42:02
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: Xcopy with re-start options

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:10:10, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
Poltorak) wrote:

> Has anyone ever come across a utility which is equivalent to XCOPY but
> with option to do a re-start from a point of failure?
> 
> ie something akin to wget -c -r for ftping.

The only place I've seen this function is in 4OS2.

Probably COPY/U is what you want.

-----------(under 4OS2.EXE v.2.52a)
COPY /?
Usage:  COPY [d:][path]source[+]...[/A /B] [[d:][path]target]
             [/A:[[-]rhsda] /A /B /C /F /M /N /P /Q /R /S /T /U /V]

    /A  Copy in ASCII mode
    /A: Select files by attributes
    /B  Copy in binary mode
    /C  Copy only those files where the target is older than the 
source
    /F  Fail if the source file has extended attributes and the target
file
          system doesn't support extended attributes.
    /H  Copy hidden and system files too
    /M  Copy only those files with the archive bit set
    /N  Don't actually perform the copy
    /P  Confirm each file copy (Y or N)
    /Q  Don't display filenames or totals
    /R  Prompt before overwriting an existing file
    /S  Copy subdirectories
    /T  Only display totals (no filenames)
    /U  Copy only those source files that are newer than a matching 
target
          file, or where a matching target file doesn't exist
    /V  Verify disk writes
-----------
-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 14:57:01
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 01:48:21, "Alan C. Whitehouse" <alan@resgroup.com> 
wrote:

> 
> Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com> wrote in message
> news:126280594467272810993502@MWCTP...
> >
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > The company that I work for is searching for a manufacturing/accounting
> > system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.
> > No windows 9x or NT.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> 
> A time travel machine perhaps?

Now, now. It might sound jokable but there are *many* offices which 
don't have Win9x or NT. Anywhere. And I've heard of a doctor who 
canned a records temp for breaking an office rule and installing Win95
on one machine, that she wanted to use to browse the Internet with and
thought she needed all the googaws for that purpose.

Considering the amount of work many businesses put into getting basic 
networks and data functions up with DOS or Win31 shells, and the 
horror stories from just about everybody who "upgraded", it's no 
wonder that the folks interested in their bottom line have held off 
until something better comes along. (IBM's failure in 1994 to broadly 
hardware-test OS/2 Warp before releasing it deprived them of the 
chance to become that next thing, of course.)

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        09-Dec-99 15:17:03
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: WinOS2 programs can't find disk space

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On 8 Dec 1999 14:59:45 GMT, wellner@pop.mke.etn.com
<wellner@pop.mke.etn.com> wrote:
> Perhaps this has been answered before, but...
> 
> Many Windows program programs do not think I have any available disk space
(On one disk I have 
> two gig and 6 gig on the other.  TaxCut, for example, would not run when
installed on my D drive, complaining that I did not have enough disk space.  I 
had 2 gig.  I had to reinstall it on the C drive.
> These are HPFS disks.  Is there some set up parameter I could change or ...

Yes, this is a common problem.  DOS and Win3.1 are incapable of believing
that a drive could be larger than 2Gb.  When they calculate free disk
space, if it's over 2Gb (2048Mb), it overflows to a negative number.  This
problem was inherited by WinOS/2.

The fix is either to make sure there's less than 2Gb free on the drive;
or, much easier, download a small and immensely useful utility from Hobbes
which intercepts the API calls in question, and reports exactly 2Gb free
space to DOS and Windows programs if there is 2Gb or more available.

    ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/dos/2gbfix.zip

This is a tiny TSR which you can put into your AUTOEXEC.BAT file.

-- 
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: peterpan@mail2.dgraph.com                         09-Dec-99 08:13:02
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: OS2 USB and video camera

From: Fujiha <peterpan@mail2.dgraph.com>

"J. R. Fox" wrote:
> 
> Mark O. Schlegel wrote:
> >
> > "J. R. Fox" wrote:
> >
> >>           http://users.uniserve.ca/~software/dcitu/
> >>
> >> is the last URL I had for them.
> >>
> >> <jf>
> >
> > That link results in:
> >
> > File Not Found
> > The requested URL /~software/dcitu/ was not found on this server.
> >
> > Mark
> 
> That's why I had to qualify that statement, and that's what
> happens when one doesn't visit a bookkmarked URL for 8 months or so.
> Fortunately, others here had the new site address.
> 
> <jf>

I was under the impression that OS/2 USB has no support for video
cameras, just modems and such (like the castrated DVD support)

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            09-Dec-99 15:29:27
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: tape backup program for seagate SCSI travan 8

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

And now I see that whenever I try to backup to a tape that has already
been used by BA/2000, I get a message:

 [id=050b] The media in the device appears to contain data from another
from another application and must be erased before it can be used.

Note that the duplicated words "from another from another" are exactly
as they appear in the message; they are not an error on my part.

The backup seems to run OK, but the message is annoying.

I did not get that message when reusing tapes that had been written by
BA/2 or tapes that had been reinitialized.

Alan

Brad Benson wrote:
> 
> For BA/2000, we re-did the disaster recovery process completely.  The
> utility diskette tool now updates Warp3 and Warp4 utility diskettes as
> well as those created by BootOS2, and the disaster recovery HotStart
> provides a wizard-like, mouse-driven interface to the disaster
> recovery process.
> 
> Last spring we took a survey of what people liked and didn't like
> about BA/2; the disaster recovery process was the largest "wart".  It
> worked pretty well, people said, but configuring the diskettes could
> be maddening.  We worked extremely hard to simply the process with
> this new thing.
>

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          09-Dec-99 15:52:21
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: Show/print uninstalled fonts

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:09:50, cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:

> I post this to *.programmer as well as to ".apps, because I am asking
> either for an existing application or for hints about programming
> something myself!
> 
> What I would like is a little program that lets me choose a number of
> font files (ATM or TT) and print examples of them all so I could get an
> easy overview of the one or other font collection.

You are describing one of the strengths of Cliff Cullum's FontFolder 
utility. It will print out very customizable catalogues of fonts 
whether they are installed or not. It's available as a demo/sharewhare
at:

	http://www.pvsoft.com/

However, Cliff hasn't done any programming on this since releasing 
v.3.0a about 2-1/2 years ago, and there are some improvements that 
could be made to keep it up to date with the way fonts are handled on 
other platforms. 

For instance, I can't figure out if this is fixable in OS/2, but fonts
are registered with a font name string that is truncated by OS/2 at 31
characters, making many font families unusable. The fix would be 
simple if OS/2 regged fonts with the PostScript "FontName" instead of 
"FullName", I would think. Which is not in accordance with Adobe's 
rules, but is the way Win9x and NT manage things. In any case, 
truncation often kills the management of attributes and families.

In 1991, when the code inside PMATM.DLL was written (by Adobe, I've 
been told) there weren't many Type1 fonts that had long enough 
FullNames to worrry about, I guess. But today there are literally 
thousands of fonts that can't be used in OS/2, just because of this 
naming problem. When I have a project that needs particular font 
families, but the standard font files use the long names and get 
truncated, I have to laboriously open and re-edit new names into all 
the font files.

So there's room for you as a programmer, I think. Contact Cliff after 
you've looked at his program and maybe there's a way to work with him?

-- 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            09-Dec-99 15:55:26
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: Back Again/2000

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

I don't think that can be the problem. Where is there going to be room
on a floppy to write the index of a large backup?

Alan


"Rolf Lochbÿhler" wrote:
> 
> My version of BA/2, namely 3.10a, returns Error 6304 ("No matching
> backup set found") if the boot disk is not writeable or if there is
> not enough space on the disk to create index files.

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From: Joe_Farruggio@amecom.com                          09-Dec-99 11:56:01
  To: All                                               09-Dec-99 22:41:12
Subj: Re: Tax Preparation Software

From: Joe Farruggio <Joe_Farruggio@amecom.com>

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Joe Farruggio wrote:
I asked Intuit and they confirmed that the new Turbotax will not work
on Win3.1

Jerry Prather wrote:

> I went out yesterday to make my annual purchase of TurboTax.  All
> the boxes on the shelf said Windows 95, 98, or NT - no reference
> to Win3.1.  I take that to mean that I can no longer continue to
> install TurboTax in WinOS2.  Can anyone confirm or deny?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net
>
> "Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
> for."
>                                         - Me (circa 1998)

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    10-Dec-99 02:28:25
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 10:35:20
Subj: Re: cdrecord/2 new ver - problem

From: nemo@union.edu

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-Qh8onu9qo0gz@localhost>, on 12/08/99 
   at 08:23 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>Go to:
>http://www.tekram.com/
>and get the latest updates. I can't say, for sure, that they will fix 
>anything, but there is some indication that the updates (both flash,  and
>driver) might fix your problem (depending on exactly which Tekram 
>adaptor you are talking about, and whether you already have this  level,
>or not).

Thanks. I've been getting some good tips, but I have not had time to test
out all of them. The weekend will bring a little breathing space and then
I'll play with the cddrv.inf which may not correspond to my cdrw id. Then
I'll look at flashing the scsi card BIOS; mine is a DC-390F which I think
can be flashed.

Fingers crossed.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: ralbers@dccnet.com                                10-Dec-99 07:43:04
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 10:35:21
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: ralbers@dccnet.com

Have run across something called 'NetLedger', but haven't played with 
it myself yet, though we are going to take a close look at it for 
running our business sometime this month - are existing accounting 
program (DacEasy 4.x DOS) works great, but is not y2k compliant, thus 
NetLedger will probably become our next system.

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 01:48:21, "Alan C. Whitehouse" <alan@resgroup.com> 
wrote:

> 
> Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com> wrote in message
> news:126280594467272810993502@MWCTP...
> >
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > The company that I work for is searching for a manufacturing/accounting
> > system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.
> > No windows 9x or NT.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> 
> A time travel machine perhaps?
> 
> 


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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           10-Dec-99 14:18:07
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 10:35:21
Subj: Re: Lotus 1-2-3 OLE problem (OS/2)

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <ZSSxpDOuFnh7-pn2-SIntOnMNXyhw@localhost>, on 12/10/99 
   at 02:09 PM, idiotxxx@mindless.com (Nev..) said:

Read the readme.txt which came with SS distro, it has a detailed section
for troubleshooting these exactly errors. In general, OLE errors are
usually caused by incorrect settings in CONFIG.SYS (references to folders
that does not exist, incorrect syntax of IR-related strings, etc.).

Cheers,
Ivan

>Today a problem has been encountered by my Lotus 123. (It's the November 
>97 Beta Pre-Release -- I'd buy a release copy if I could find a retailer 
>in Australia who could sell it to me.  Even the Australian Lotus Support 
>could not give me the name of a retailer who stocked it).

>Every time I open a spreadsheet I get an error box saying 
>---
>ERROR OCCURRED INITIALIZING OLE
>TRY RESTARTING WINDOWS.  IF THE ERROR PERSISTS REINSTALL LOTUS 1-2-3 ---

>So I have uninstalled it and reinstalled it but no change.  I don't think
> I had even rebooted my PC since the last time I used 1-2-3.

>Any ideas ??

>Nev..

>remove the xxx from email address to reply
>blame the spammers for the inconvenience

-- 
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"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
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From: jules@acunet.net                                  10-Dec-99 09:20:11
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: 2GB file size limit

From: Jules Gilbert <jules@acunet.net>

Okay, what do I do?

I have a Adobe .pdf file (representing almost 700 pages of a manual)
which I want to print.

I would like two-sided copy, printed in reverse order on a Z-51 from
Lexmark.    I'd like two copies but I'm willing to run the print-job
twice.

I start the job, and of course wait while it 'prints' to an intermediate
disk file.  But at page 624, this intermediate file first exceeds 2GB
and the job aborts.  I CAN print the first 623 pages of this 688 page
manual, but I can't print beyond that.

By this last sentence, I mean that I can't print the entire manual by
doing the printing as separate segments, say the first half and then the
second half.  The problem with this is that the the first half, even if
unprinted, requires file space -- thus the remaining segments never
happen...  Sigh.

As I see it, I can either seek out a fix to extend OS/2 to bigger than
2GB files, or perhaps find another mechanism to print with.

If it matters, this file is the IBM PL/1 language reference manual.
I'll also have the same problem with the Programmers' Guide.

Last, if more people had been buying OS/2 instead of NT, IBM would have
fixed the 2GB file limit years ago.  Maybe IBM will look at what's
happening to MS and reconsider allowing OS2 to fall apart.

What do I do about the printing problem?  Please e-mail me
jules@acunet.net


Sincerely,
Jules

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From: bnc@webone.com.au                                 10-Dec-99 21:04:09
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: AWGET

From: bnc@webone.com.au

This may be common knowledge, but then again.........

When you install the latest version of awget (awget1514.zip) it puts a TODO on 
your desktop.

Now if you are using a news reader that does not support DDE it is a pain to
start a download when
someone gives you a URL.
There are two possible answers,

1) cut the URL, right click on the TODO folder, PASTE. A window comes up,
change the bottom option
    to WPURL and PASTE. Awget will tell you when the file is downloaded.

2) cut the URL,double click on the TODO folder, click on ADDURL,SHIFT-INS,
open

Hope this helps,
Brian

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           10-Dec-99 08:38:21
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ... more

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On
<1bMmtd7zwYPT-pn2-ZKnWd5n7L2od@166.pittsburgh-06-07rs.pa.dial-access.att.net>,
on 12/09/99 at 01:35 PM,
   SkidMARX@att.net said:


> If all I want to do is, say install Smartsuite 1.5 I have to first 
> ATTACH the cdrom?
> That seems strange to me.  I believe you, mind you, but that just 
> appears odd to me.
> I would think that using pre-written cdrom's would be the same as 
> usually done.

RSJ was designed for SCSI CD writers. The IDE support is a patch add-on to
the original code. It works the way I told you it works no matter how
strange it may seem to you. Yes, you must attach the drive to read a disk
as a data disk. Otherwise, the only way to access it is via CDView in the
RSJ folder and then you only see it as a track (or tracks for
multi-session disks)


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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.01 Registration Number 67
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           10-Dec-99 08:41:06
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ...

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On
<1bMmtd7zwYPT-pn2-ommGEgsdD1bz@222.akron-08-09rs.oh.dial-access.att.net>,
on 12/10/99 at 04:22 AM,
   SkidMARX@att.net said:

> I did upgrade and still could not get it working.
> I sent another note, five days ago.

> No response.
> What am I to make of this?

Bite the bullet, get up at 5AM (Eastern) and call their tech support. They
speak excellent English, are most helpful, and I have never waited more
than 2 minutes to be connected to Tech Support. Before 8 AM, it only costs
about 25 cents a minute to call Germany. How much is your time worth?

I suggest you call early because they go to lunch and you can get an
answering machine if you wait much later than 5 AM Eastern. That is 11 AM
in Germany. By the time they get back from lunch, you are in the high cost
call time. Since your problem can probably be solved in less than 10
minutes, even at $0.75 per minute the cost will be $7.50 or less later in
the morning. Remember, they are gone home by 4 PM Eastern.

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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.01 Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: Flass@Dont_Spam_Me.38.246.113.4                   10-Dec-99 09:01:16
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: Re: 2GB file size limit

From: Peter Flass <Flass@Dont_Spam_Me.38.246.113.4>

Jules Gilbert wrote:
> 
> I have a Adobe .pdf file (representing almost 700 pages of a manual)
> which I want to print.
> 
> I would like two-sided copy, printed in reverse order on a Z-51 from
> Lexmark. 

What's a Z-51?  Is it PCL?  I printed the VA PL/I 2.1 reference at about
670 pages with no problem on a Postscript printer.  I would assume PCL
would require more disk space.

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From: pjfloyd@my-deja.com                               10-Dec-99 14:00:25
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: Re: Long file names

From: pjfloyd@my-deja.com

In article <s50vjgd353161@corp.supernews.com>,
  jkross@TIRED_OF_SPAM@oxford.net (John Ross) wrote:
> In message <0r%24.16654$Tp.686005@typ11.nn.bcandid.com> -
areese@bestnetpc.com
> (A. Willard Reese) writes:

> :>	Can someone tell me how I can get long filenames (with spaces in
> :>them) from Win95 FAT16 partition to OS2 on an HPFS partition on the
> :>same hard drive.
> :>	I have a cdrom with over 150 *.TIF files with long filenames
that OS2
> :>refuses to read.  Win95 reads them and downloads them just fine into
a
> :>FAT partition.  If I copy them from the Fat partition into OS2
all the
> :>filenames are truncated (xxxxx~1.tif). Is there any  way that I can
> :>copy these files, with the long filenames intact, from that FAT
> :>partition into OS2 without renaming every file?

> The CD-ROM doesn't use Fat16, it probably uses a file scheme called
joliet. To
> read Joliet format add /W to:
>
> IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /v /w ,
>
> I'm not sure what fixpack level you need but it is a different
> version than the original Warp 4 CD.

Win95 isn't using simple FAT, it is using VFAT, which adds an
extension for long file names. There is a driver for VFAT for
OS/2 on Hobbes.

Similarly, CDFS uses a filesystem called ISO 9660. Just as
VFAT extends FAT, there are extensions to ISO 9660 that
add long file names. One is Rock Ridge, to add unix style
long names, and another is Joliet, from MS which allows
upto 32 character names. I don't think the new CDFS
of CDFS is in a fixpack, but it is available from the usual
sources (Hobbes, IBM) [the -V option causes it to admit
to being for WSeB not Warp].

A+
Paul
--
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Is atrophy a shiny cup?


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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               10-Dec-99 15:52:28
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: Re: Vice/2 rel. 1.2

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Thomas Kellerer schrieb:
> 
> Looks nice, but where can I get software? (especially David's Midnight
> Magic)

http://arnold.c64.org

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: no.spam@no.spam.org                               10-Dec-99 16:11:08
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:22
Subj: Re: Show/print uninstalled fonts

From: "Cornelis Bockem?hl" <no.spam@no.spam.org>

On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:52:43 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote:

>On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:09:50, cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>> I post this to *.programmer as well as to ".apps, because I am asking
>> either for an existing application or for hints about programming
>> something myself!
>> 
>> What I would like is a little program that lets me choose a number of
>> font files (ATM or TT) and print examples of them all so I could get an
>> easy overview of the one or other font collection.
>
>You are describing one of the strengths of Cliff Cullum's FontFolder 
>utility. It will print out very customizable catalogues of fonts 
>whether they are installed or not. It's available as a demo/sharewhare
>at:
>
>	http://www.pvsoft.com/
>
>However, Cliff hasn't done any programming on this since releasing 
>v.3.0a about 2-1/2 years ago, and there are some improvements that 
>could be made to keep it up to date with the way fonts are handled on 
>other platforms. 

In any case thank you for the hint (also to Harald Eilertsen who
suggested the same) as well as the link. I actually thought I knew
FontFolder, but not as a program where you could actually view or
print previews of fonts, but when I look at what I have here
somewhere in a ZIP archive this turns out to be Version 1.2, dating
from something like 1995, while on the homepage I find Version 3.0,
which is at least a lot more recent than the other one! I am rather
sure I am going to register it _with_ printing support.

>For instance, I can't figure out if this is fixable in OS/2, but fonts
>are registered with a font name string that is truncated by OS/2 at 31
>characters, making many font families unusable. The fix would be 
>simple if OS/2 regged fonts with the PostScript "FontName" instead of 
>"FullName", I would think. Which is not in accordance with Adobe's 
>rules, but is the way Win9x and NT manage things. In any case, 
>truncation often kills the management of attributes and families.
>
>In 1991, when the code inside PMATM.DLL was written (by Adobe, I've 
>been told) there weren't many Type1 fonts that had long enough 
>FullNames to worrry about, I guess. But today there are literally 
>thousands of fonts that can't be used in OS/2, just because of this 
>naming problem. When I have a project that needs particular font 
>families, but the standard font files use the long names and get 
>truncated, I have to laboriously open and re-edit new names into all 
>the font files.

So a tool doing this automatically would probably already do the job
in this case, possibly even just something in REXX? I haven't come
across this problem until now, at least not realized it, because
possibly I wouldn't see it immediately, since many programs seem to
handle font selections in different ways, but I never bothered to
dive into that issue!

>So there's room for you as a programmer, I think. Contact Cliff after 
>you've looked at his program and maybe there's a way to work with him?

Well, I'm afraid I should rather spend my limited programming time
into my main project, which is my "PmAs" Astronomy programs project
(at http://www.datacomm.ch/cobo) where I would like to add some more
database support for example and which keeps me already more busy
than I should really be along my family and job ;-) When talking
about "do-it-yourself" I was therefor also thinking about something
quick and dirty - but if a much more comfortable tool really exists
already: Much better!

Greetings,
Cornelis Bockem�hl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>

--------------------------------------------
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e-mail: cbockem AT datacomm DOT ch
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From: jwkenned@bellatlantic.net                         10-Dec-99 15:16:26
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: 2GB file size limit

From: "John W. Kennedy" <jwkenned@bellatlantic.net>

Peter Flass wrote:
> 
> Jules Gilbert wrote:
> >
> > I have a Adobe .pdf file (representing almost 700 pages of a manual)
> > which I want to print.
> >
> > I would like two-sided copy, printed in reverse order on a Z-51 from
> > Lexmark.
> 
> What's a Z-51?  Is it PCL?  I printed the VA PL/I 2.1 reference at about
> 670 pages with no problem on a Postscript printer.  I would assume PCL
> would require more disk space.

The Z51 is a brainless printer that requires the system to render the
pages and then send it the exact pixel data.  This adds greatly to the
burden it puts on the system, but is common in the inkjet market,
because, at that level, it cuts the price of the printer in half.

-- 
-John W. Kennedy
-rri0189@ibm.net
Compact is becoming contract
Man only earns and pays.  -- Charles Williams

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From: jwkenned@bellatlantic.net                         10-Dec-99 15:21:02
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: 2GB file size limit

From: "John W. Kennedy" <jwkenned@bellatlantic.net>

Jules Gilbert wrote:
> Last, if more people had been buying OS/2 instead of NT, IBM would have
> fixed the 2GB file limit years ago.  Maybe IBM will look at what's
> happening to MS and reconsider allowing OS2 to fall apart.

It's not that simple.  It's an API problem; "fixing" it requires
changing each and every program that might use a >2GB file.  (And the
change then makes the changed program unable to run on a pre-change
OS/2.)  It also requires changes to the C compiler, library, etc.

-- 
-John W. Kennedy
-rri0189@ibm.net
Compact is becoming contract
Man only earns and pays.  -- Charles Williams

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From: cocke@catherders.com                              10-Dec-99 11:45:10
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>

Thanks.  Unfortunately, SBT is what we're trying to get away from.  
Their mfg module is useless.


On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 02:59:09 GMT, patrickp wrote:

>
>> > Help!
>> >
>> > The company that I work for is searching for a manufacturing/accounting
>> > system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.
>> > No windows 9x or NT.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>>
>
>  Check out SBT systems; their VP2000 package offers a solid paltform under
>Xbase which will run Win 3.1 & DOS and I have successfully run it under OS/2
>(The DOS platform)  Let me know if I may be of further assistance
>
>P
>
>
>

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From: cocke@catherders.com                              10-Dec-99 11:44:11
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:48:21 -0800, Alan C. Whitehouse wrote:

>
>Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com> wrote in message
>news:126280594467272810993502@MWCTP...
>>
>>
>> Help!
>>
>> The company that I work for is searching for a manufacturing/accounting
>> system...  The catch is that it must run in DOS, Windows 3.x, or OS/2.
>> No windows 9x or NT.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>A time travel machine perhaps?

Or a version of windows that doesn't keep crashing.

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From: gbishopNOgbSPAM@du.edu.invalid                    10-Dec-99 08:51:07
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Problem: WordPerfect for OS/2 & Warp 4

From: Gary Bishop <gbishopNOgbSPAM@du.edu.invalid>

I may be the only one still trying to use this but here goes.
WordPerfect for OS/2 ran fine under Warp3 but when I upgraded to Warp4
everything works ok except the font palette does not seem to recognize
any of the setups. Instead of a white background with black text most
of the time it is reversed (black background/white text). I have tried
lots of settings with no luck. Anyone got a fix or suggestion?

Thanks in advance!!!!

Gary Bishop
University of Denver
gbishop@du.edu


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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   10-Dec-99 11:02:17
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: voicetype stopped working

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:17:09 GMT, jpedone_nospam@flash.net wrote:

:>  In <jnqfnpxvozarg.fmg4s50.pminews@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, "Peter Wadsack" 
<wadsack@ibm.net> writes:
:>  >at the worst possible time, of course.
:>  >
:>  >Finally, I selectively uninstalled, then reinstalled it.  This put it 
out of 
:>  >sync, missing fixpak corrections.
:>  >
:>  >So I discovered that <Service.exe> won't find VoiceType [installed on a 
:>  >different drive than OS/2] to service.  Long story, but I did it 
manually.
:>  >Except now I get:
:>  >
:>  
:>  This may or may not help but... in the FP read me you'll find:
:>  
:>   6.4 RELOCATED OS/2 FILE SUPPORT
:>  
:>     If you have moved OS/2 files or directories to a drive other than the 
one
:>     the SYSLEVEL.OS2 file is on, do the following in order to have them
:>     serviced:
:>  
:>        Create a file named USERDIRS.OS2 in the \OS2\INSTALL directory of 
the
:>        OS\2 Warp 4 partition to be serviced.
:>  
:>        In this file, place the full path to the directories you want to be
:>        serviced. Assuming your boot drive is C: and you installed 
Multimedia
:>        on the D: drive and manually moved WINOS2 support to the E: drive:
:>  
:>         D:\MMOS2
:>         D:\MMOS2\DLL
:>         D:\MMOS2\DSP
:>  
:>  You might try creating this file and reapplying the FP...
:>  
:>   
:>  J. Pedone
:>  jpedone@flash.net
:>  http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
:>   
:>  Windows NT: Vapourware of the desperate and scared.
:>  Beware of Geeks bearing gifs.
:>  

Thanks for the reminder!  I'll try that.  As I installed VT on a different 
drive originally, I assumed OS/2 kept track of that, unlike a manual move.

[Actually, for drag'n'drop to really work, there should be a central registry 
which is updated when things are moved, so that objects keep their 
references]



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From: lsmccarty@home.com                                10-Dec-99 17:33:26
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 14:58:23
Subj: Re: Problem: WordPerfect for OS/2 & Warp 4

From: "L.S. McCarty" <lsmccarty@home.com>

Gary Bishop wrote:
> 
> I may be the only one still trying to use this but here goes.
> WordPerfect for OS/2 ran fine under Warp3 but when I upgraded to Warp4
> everything works ok except the font palette does not seem to recognize
> any of the setups. Instead of a white background with black text most
> of the time it is reversed (black background/white text). I have tried
> lots of settings with no luck. Anyone got a fix or suggestion?
> 
> Thanks in advance!!!!
> 
> Gary Bishop
> University of Denver
> gbishop@du.edu
> 
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You are not the only one!  I've been using it for years and the fixpacks
to Warp 4 have made it much more stable than it was in Warp3 and basic
warp 4.

The fix is easy and documented. Just add the switch /FL in the Optional
parameters section of the WP properties icon object.




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From: fBeythien@gmx.de                                  10-Dec-99 17:33:28
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:00
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ...

From: fBeythien@gmx.de (Frank Beythien)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:34:59, SkidMARX@att.net wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:33:56, fBeythien@gmx.de (Frank Beythien) wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:22:54, SkidMARX@att.net wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I'm using Warp 4 with Fixpak 12 and having problems with the RSJ 
> > > burning package.
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > why don't you try the rsj newsserver:   news.rsj.de 
> > group  :  rsj.de.support.cdwriter.os2
[...]
> Frank,
> 
> I tried that route with very, very little results ...
> I almost got the impression that even RSJ cares very little for OS/2 
> users ...

Well I've got different experiences. Even emails were answered before 
I bought rsj.  

CU/2
-- 
Frank Beythien   fBeythien@gmx.de

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     10-Dec-99 19:20:03
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:00
Subj: Re: Zip 100 parallel

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:35:00, bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu (Richard 
Bumby) wrote:

> Is this the classic Zip 100, or the new version that uses that imm
> driver introduced with the Zip Plus?
>  

My references are all to the older "clasic" PP ZIP drive. AFAIK, the 
PLUS drives won't work with OS/2.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: c.k.chrisitacopoulos_removeme@du...               10-Dec-99 20:20:25
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:00
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 opens only certain URLs

Message sender: c.k.chrisitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.chrisitacopoulos_removeme@dundee.ac.uk>

I can do it but this is of little consolation to you.  When selecting Search
it connects to another machine or a virtual host.  It may have been
unavailable or ...

Daniel Weiss wrote:

> I am running Netscape 4.61 with Warp 4.0.  I have opened
> www.abebooks.com with no problem.  But when I try to open the search URL
> within that site, I cannot.  When I download the search URL to my
> machine I CAN open it with Netscape; but not online.

I am lost.  How do you mean download it if you cannot connect to it.


> This has happened
> with other sites as well: I am told that a site has been contacted and
> we are waiting for a reply.  But the reply never comes.

That is typical when a web server has died but maybe tcpip or other bits are
still working on the machine (I run two of the damn things).

>
> This is not a security issue.  I know these sites work, because, god
> help me, I have opened them with Explorer.

At the same time you could not open with Netscape?   If yes I am beaten :-)

>
>
> Is anyone familiar with this entertaining quirk?
>
> Daniel Weiss



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From: ariek@attglobal3.141592653589793...               10-Dec-99 20:44:11
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:00
Subj: PMMail comples filter: ".-z" flag question

Message sender: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net

From: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net (Arie Kazachin)

Hello!

While creating a comples spam filter in PMMail 2.1, I usually use
the ".-z" flag to make the searched string match to be anchored to the
end of the "header.from", so that I'll need only the last part of the
spammer's domain to be matched. But I noticed, that sometimes, the filter
didn't remove an e-mail from a domain ending EXACTLY as I wrote in the filter.
As an experiment, I removed the ".-z" flag and then the filter started
forking (but that means, any part of the header might be matched).
I checked more than once: I wrote correctly the searched string, exactly
like the end of the domain as it appears in the header. OTOH, some other
domain names match with the ".-z" flag works OK.

Have anyone else noticed this behavious of the PMMail 2.1 filter?

TIA,
******************************************************************************
*   Arie Kazachin, Israel, e-mail: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net *
******************************************************************************
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From: rqphoto@ibm.net                                   10-Dec-99 21:14:11
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
Subj: Re: Approach

From: rqphoto@ibm.net (Rich Quindry)

On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:04:22, Ken Anderson <Kanderson@Kanderson.net> 
wrote:
I'm having the same types of problems w/ approach here. I think it 
started after I put on whatever fixes I was told I needed for Y2K. It 
has also corrupted drop down combo box contect along with searches not
always working. Sometimes if I put in a full last name for a search 
like JONES it will stall but if I put in a partial entry like JONE it 
will work. I hope this gets fixed in 1.5


Rich Quindry

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    10-Dec-99 17:40:05
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ...

From: nemo@union.edu

In <38510407$4$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, on 12/10/99 
   at 08:41 AM, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> said:

>Bite the bullet, get up at 5AM (Eastern) and call their tech support.
>They speak excellent English, are most helpful, and I have never waited
>more than 2 minutes to be connected to Tech Support. Before 8 AM, it only
>costs about 25 cents a minute to call Germany. How much is your time
>worth?

>I suggest you call early because they go to lunch and you can get an
>answering machine if you wait much later than 5 AM Eastern. That is 11 AM
>in Germany. By the time they get back from lunch, you are in the high
>cost call time. Since your problem can probably be solved in less than 10
>minutes, even at $0.75 per minute the cost will be $7.50 or less later in
>the morning. Remember, they are gone home by 4 PM Eastern.

I'm in email correspondence with one of their people about my issues but
I'm going to take Bob's advice about calling if I can't resolve my
problems by email. I suspect I have a dumb syntax error - Bob's been great
in helping me track it down - and a little phone chat may just point me to
the stray mischievious byte.

(Bob, I also fear I may have some problem in the Tekram BIOS. We'll see.)

Calling Germany is fun: you can almost smell the bier and the bratwurst.

F.

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      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: huffd@nls.net                                     10-Dec-99 22:17:06
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 20:37:01
Subj: Re: 2GB file size limit

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

If you were using OS/2 Warp for e-business, you could use a JFS partition,
file size limit is 2Tb.

Jules Gilbert wrote:

> Okay, what do I do?
>
> I have a Adobe .pdf file (representing almost 700 pages of a manual)
> which I want to print.
>
> I would like two-sided copy, printed in reverse order on a Z-51 from
> Lexmark.    I'd like two copies but I'm willing to run the print-job
> twice.
>
> I start the job, and of course wait while it 'prints' to an intermediate
> disk file.  But at page 624, this intermediate file first exceeds 2GB
> and the job aborts.  I CAN print the first 623 pages of this 688 page
> manual, but I can't print beyond that.
>
> By this last sentence, I mean that I can't print the entire manual by
> doing the printing as separate segments, say the first half and then the
> second half.  The problem with this is that the the first half, even if
> unprinted, requires file space -- thus the remaining segments never
> happen...  Sigh.
>
> As I see it, I can either seek out a fix to extend OS/2 to bigger than
> 2GB files, or perhaps find another mechanism to print with.
>
> If it matters, this file is the IBM PL/1 language reference manual.
> I'll also have the same problem with the Programmers' Guide.
>
> Last, if more people had been buying OS/2 instead of NT, IBM would have
> fixed the 2GB file limit years ago.  Maybe IBM will look at what's
> happening to MS and reconsider allowing OS2 to fall apart.
>
> What do I do about the printing problem?  Please e-mail me
> jules@acunet.net
>
> Sincerely,
> Jules

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From: jkross@TIRED_OF_SPAM@oxford.net                   10-Dec-99 04:15:22
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: Long file names

From: jkross@TIRED_OF_SPAM@oxford.net (John Ross)

In message <0r%24.16654$Tp.686005@typ11.nn.bcandid.com> - areese@bestnetpc.com
(A. Willard Reese) writes:
:>
:>	Can someone tell me how I can get long filenames (with spaces in
:>them) from Win95 FAT16 partition to OS2 on an HPFS partition on the
:>same hard drive. 
:>	I have a cdrom with over 150 *.TIF files with long filenames that OS2
:>refuses to read.  Win95 reads them and downloads them just fine into a
:>FAT partition.  If I copy them from the Fat partition into OS2 all the
:>filenames are truncated (xxxxx~1.tif). Is there any  way that I can
:>copy these files, with the long filenames intact, from that FAT
:>partition into OS2 without renaming every file?

The CD-ROM doesn't use Fat16, it probably uses a file scheme called joliet. To
read Joliet format add /W to:

IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /v /w , 

I'm not sure what fixpack level you need but it is a different version than
the original Warp 4 CD.

:>	I'm appreciative of any help or suggestions you might offer.  I'm
:>really stumped.
:>Willard
:>




-john ross

http://www.oxford.net/~jkross

Remove "@I_hate_spam" from address to reply.... 

              
--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea --
massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a
source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect
it."--spaf@cs.purdue.edu (1992)

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From: SkidMARX@att.net                                  10-Dec-99 04:22:19
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ...

From: SkidMARX@att.net

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 02:26:31, wcs@dumbguy.earthling.net (Will Smith) 
wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:34:59, SkidMARX@att.net wrote:
>   I have to differ with your statement about RSJ being unresponsive.
> The news groups are not the place you want to be asking technical
> questions.  Email their Tech Support department and you will get some
> results.  They have been very responsive to my inquiries.  One went on
> for months. but they followed through and came up with a solution to 
> my
> problem, as minor as the problem was.
> 
>    Bill
> 
Bill,

I don't mean to be disrespectful to RSJ but I have to disagree ...

I DID email their tech support with a very nice long detailed note on 
what I had tried and politely asked for any ideas.

One of the techs - I'm not going to write her name - responded back 
with a single line ... and I quote ...

"Upgrade to 2.85 software ..."

No answers to my questions.
No comments on what I had done.
Nothing. Nada. Ziltch.

I did upgrade and still could not get it working.
I sent another note, five days ago.

No response.
What am I to make of this?

Gregory L. Marx
skidmarx@att.net

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From: SkidMARX@att.net                                  10-Dec-99 04:27:18
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ... more ... Thanks !!!

From: SkidMARX@att.net

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 03:06:40, "Kyle M. White" <kmwhite1@magma.ca> 
wrote:

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> Hi,
>     I'm running a Ricoh 7040A IDE CD-WR and so I'm also
> running RSJ's software.
> 
>     My setup is:
> 
> ASUS P5A - AMD K6-2/450
> Warp 4.0 FP 10
> 
> IDE 0:    Master - 6.4GB HDD
> IDE 0:    Slave - NEC CD-ROM
> IDE 1:    Master - Ricoh 7040A CD-WR
> IDE 1:    Slave - empty
> 
>     The Danis506 driver provided with the RSJ software
> seemed to confuse which CD was where and wasn't loading
> properly, so I left the standard driver in place.
> 
> Config.sys entries:
> 
> REM *** RSJ CD-Writer File System ***
> BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD
> BASEDEV=RSJIDECD.FLT
> BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT
> DEVICE=E:\CDWFS\RSJSCSI.SYS
> IFS=E:\CDWFS\CDWFS.IFS
> RUN=E:\CDWFS\CDWFSD.EXE -p "e:/cdwfs/cache" -c32768 -b8192 -t2 -i3 -s0
> 
> With the IBMIDECD.FLT statement REM'ed out.
> 
> 
> RSJ software totally takes over the CD-WR drive so that
> if you wish to use it as a "standard" CD-ROM you must still
> "attach" the drive and assign it a drive letter (I use Z:).
> 
> Being as I'm also running a standard CD-ROM this hasn't been
> a problem, but I checked with with a commercial CD just to
> make sure.
> 
> The RSJ SCSI drive IS required, it would appear that they are
> using it to "feed" the IDE side.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> 
> 
> --
> TTFN
> 
> Kyle
> 
Kyle,

Thanks very much !!!

Finally a real answer to some questions.

I to am running a AMD cpu - a K62-400 ... but only a single cdrom.
I notice you did not have to add the -i:"ID_OF_CDROM" parameter to 
LOCKCDR.FLT and I assume it was properly identified.

Hmmmmmmmmm ...

I'll have to reinstall and retry again ...

Thanks for your help

Gregory L. Marx
skidmarx@att.net

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From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi...               10-Dec-99 04:57:00
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca

From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:47:11, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) a 
‚crit:

> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:00:54, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:25:09, "Ross Ballendine" 
> > <ross.ballendine@enerpro.com> wrote:
> > snipt
> > > > And I've heard of a doctor who
> > > > canned a records temp for breaking an office rule and installing Win95
> > > > on one machine, that she wanted to use to browse the Internet with and
> > > > thought she needed all the googaws for that purpose.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Uhm... "googaws"... ?
> > > 
> > 
> > Active-X, Flash, RealViewer, etc.? Googaws.
> > 
> 
> Active-X is a virus portal not a "gewgaw" 

	And don't forget about those MACRO-viruses where, in M$ language, 
MACRO means: "Microsoft Advance Coding for Retaliatory Obtrusion".  
;-)

Salut,

	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
	ICQ #13376913
	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: deweiss@panix.com                                 10-Dec-99 00:34:25
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: NS 4.61 opens only certain URLs

From: Daniel Weiss <deweiss@panix.com>

I am running Netscape 4.61 with Warp 4.0.  I have opened
www.abebooks.com with no problem.  But when I try to open the search URL
within that site, I cannot.  When I download the search URL to my
machine I CAN open it with Netscape; but not online.  This has happened
with other sites as well: I am told that a site has been contacted and
we are waiting for a reply.  But the reply never comes.

This is not a security issue.  I know these sites work, because, god
help me, I have opened them with Explorer.

Is anyone familiar with this entertaining quirk?

Daniel Weiss

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           10-Dec-99 05:40:15
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: Searching for accounting/mfg software

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:57:00, 
Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette) wrote:

> Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:47:11, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) a 
> Úcrit:
> 
> > On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 21:00:54, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:25:09, "Ross Ballendine" 
> > > <ross.ballendine@enerpro.com> wrote:
> > > snipt
> > > > > And I've heard of a doctor who
> > > > > canned a records temp for breaking an office rule and installing
Win95
> > > > > on one machine, that she wanted to use to browse the Internet with
and
> > > > > thought she needed all the googaws for that purpose.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Uhm... "googaws"... ?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Active-X, Flash, RealViewer, etc.? Googaws.
> > > 
> > 
> > Active-X is a virus portal not a "gewgaw" 
> 
> 	And don't forget about those MACRO-viruses where, in M$ language, 
> MACRO means: "Microsoft Advance Coding for Retaliatory Obtrusion".  
> ;-)
> 

Then there is OUTLOOK

Obvious Undefended Technology Leaving Obliterated Organization 
Knowlege

:-)

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: Kanderson@kanderson.net                           09-Dec-99 22:08:24
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:22
Subj: Re: Lotus 1-2-3 OLE problem (OS/2)

From: Ken anderson <Kanderson@kanderson.net>

Order it from Lotus directly.  The new version 1.5 will be available on Dec.
21st.

"Nev.." wrote:

> Today a problem has been encountered by my Lotus 123. (It's the November
> 97 Beta Pre-Release -- I'd buy a release copy if I could find a retailer
> in Australia who could sell it to me.  Even the Australian Lotus Support
> could not give me the name of a retailer who stocked it).
>
> Every time I open a spreadsheet I get an error box saying
> ---
> ERROR OCCURRED INITIALIZING OLE
> TRY RESTARTING WINDOWS.  IF THE ERROR PERSISTS REINSTALL LOTUS 1-2-3
> ---
>
> So I have uninstalled it and reinstalled it but no change.  I don't think
> I had even rebooted my PC since the last time I used 1-2-3.
>
> Any ideas ??
>
> Nev..
>
> remove the xxx from email address to reply
> blame the spammers for the inconvenience

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From: pfitzsim@NOSPAMBASTARDS!home.com                  10-Dec-99 23:35:08
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:23
Subj: Re: 2GB file size limit

From: Peter Fitzsimons <pfitzsim@NOSPAMBASTARDS!home.com>

Jules Gilbert wrote:
> 
> Okay, what do I do?
> 
> I have a Adobe .pdf file (representing almost 700 pages of a manual)
> which I want to print.
> 
> I would like two-sided copy, printed in reverse order on a Z-51 from
> Lexmark.    I'd like two copies but I'm willing to run the print-job
> twice.
> 
> I start the job, and of course wait while it 'prints' to an intermediate
> disk file.  But at page 624, this intermediate file first exceeds 2GB

Do you have the printer setting "device format" turned on?  If so, turn
it off. This should shrink the *.spl file remarkably.  It will be
rendered as it is sent to the printer port, instead of as it is spooled.

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From: ernfisch@home.com                                 10-Dec-99 23:39:09
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:23
Subj: BA/2K

From: ernfisch@home.com (Ernie Fisch)

I gave my disaster recovery setup a test.  I created a test directory 
and loaded about
40 meg of files into it since I am working against the 50 meg eval 
limit.  I backed up the
files using BA/2K and then wiped the directory.

Next I booted up from the disaster recovery diskettes (based on 
bootos2) and got to
the command line restore.  It found the backup on the tape and I 
restored it to the empty
directory.  Nary a hitch.

One thing I noticed in the process is that the restore is back to the 
original drive and
directory, you have no choices.  OTOH you would only use disaster 
recovery when the
drive was munged anyway.

ernie fisch

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From: craig@fleckresearch.com                           10-Dec-99 15:38:04
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 21:22:23
Subj: Re: Problem: WordPerfect for OS/2 & Warp 4

From: Fleck Research <craig@fleckresearch.com>

I would like to get a copy of WordPerfect for OS/2. Any idea where one
would be available?
Craig.

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               10-Dec-99 17:32:00
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 23:09:10
Subj: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Here's some hot news for all you NON-Warp City Members:

FST Inc, has joined in a business partnership arrangement
with National DialUp Services and InnoVal Systems Solutions,
to provide a low-cost nationwide ISP service for OS/2 users.
ISP800, a private brand ISP for corporate customers, is
inaugurating service for consumers on January 3,  2000.

Extra special prices are available for any OS/2 user who
pre-registers for  the service by December 30, 1999. In
addition, three subscribers will be selected, at random,
from the first 100 OS/2 users who signup. These three
subscribers will receive free ISP service for one year until
December 31, 2000.

Highlights of ISP800 service include:

Your choice of:

Unlimited 56K access through an 800 dialup number or unlimited service
using a local dialup number.

A high performance and high capacity POP3 email mailbox

SMTP outbound email

Toll free 24/7 technical support

Very low cost for OS/2 users. ISP800 may also be used with Linux,
Mac, and  Windows95/98 client platforms.

No signup fees. You may cancel the service at the end of any month.

Anyone who travels, uses the Internet from more than one permanent
location, or lives in an area not supported by a local access number,
is encouraged to use the 800 number. Performance on the 800 number
is equal to that of local access numbers since all connections are
automatically and instantly re-directed through a close-proximity
modem. Access with the 800 number is available anywhere in the
United States where a dial tone is available. THERE IS NEVER AN
ADDITIONAL FEE FOR USING THE 800 NUMBER TO ACCESS ISP800.
Airfone (in plane service) and some hotels do charge access
fees when you dial an 800 number.

ISP800 Prices:

    Regular service:   $19.95
    For all OS/2 Users:   $15.95 ***

*** Anyone who pre-registers for the service by December 30, 1999, will
receive the first year of service for only $11.95 per month. You must be
an
OS/2 user to pre-register at this price. Your pre-registration must be
received by 5:00pm on 12/30/99.

Additional email accounts are $3.95 per month. Limit is four additional
email accounts.

Please note: There is no direct USENET newsgroup access at this time. If

enough OS/2 users subscribe and there is sufficient interest, ISP800
will
add newsgroup access for OS/2 users. Deja (dejanews) and other web-based

newsgroup services may be used in lieu of standard USENET.

For additional information, and to signup for ISP800, please visit
http://isp800.com/os2. In particular, see the price page and the FAQ
page.
For additional information send an email to os2isp@innoval.com.

---------------------

The OS/2 Community should sit up and take notice and support
this new enterprise!

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City (http://warpcity.com)
"Y2K Special Discount Memberships Close 12/15!)

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               10-Dec-99 19:06:06
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 23:09:10
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: Netscape 4.61 problems
BY: dcasey@ibm.net

>Courier New is the default ... and it is the one that causes problems
>(namely that not all systems have that font installed). Changing to
>Courier fixes that problem.
-
question, how do I go about getting courier new? 
-
I'm using Warp 3 fixpack 38.
-


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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               10-Dec-99 19:06:06
  To: All                                               10-Dec-99 23:09:10
Subj: Re: Back Again/2000

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: Back Again/2000
BY: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

><384C14B9.116943E@optonline.net>
>Let me add something here.
>Obviously this (i/e., the BA/2000 Crash Recovery program not finding any
>backup sets on the tape) is not a problem that other people are
>encountering. Perhaps this is somehow connected with the problems I was
>experiencing previously with BA/2, even though the symptoms are totally
>different.
>I am using an ancient tape drive that is no longer supported by the
>company (Seagate) that took over the company (Conner) that took over the
>original manufacturer (Archive). Who knows what bugs may exist in the
>drive or its firmware?
>I believe that CDS is a good company that stands behind its products.
>Nobody should imagine that my experiences are typical.
-
do you by any chance own an Archive Python?
-


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