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From: jakovacs@sentex.net                               29-Nov-99 15:55:22
  To: All                                               29-Nov-99 20:08:14
Subj: UltiMail mail run

From: jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs)

UltiMail from Warp v3 Red, with the 2.10.004 upgrade is working 
well here, with a dialup connection.  I leave it running all the
time.

The system is being set up to pick up mail automatically, at set 
times.  When it's reluctant, UltiMail can be forced to put mail 
up with mailq.exe.  Is there a way to force it to pick up mail 
with a .exe or umail parameter or something?

Or must I set up a pop server to do that?

As a last resort, I could depend on UM's 15 minute polling 
feature, and even set it to 5 minutes, or else shut it down 
and start it up only when it's needed.  But that seems to be a
little crude.

I haven't seen anything in the UM FAQ or urls or manual that 
answers this.

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From: dougtan23@my-deja.com                             30-Nov-99 07:52:23
  To: All                                               30-Nov-99 05:19:05
Subj: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com>

Hi,

Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?

The *typical* error log is reproduced as follows:

11-28-1999  11:47:06  SYS3175  PID 0033  TID 0002  Slot 0081
D:\PMMAIL\PMMAIL.EXE
c0000005
000af22a
P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=00000000  ECX=00000000  EDX=00000000
ESI=00000000  EDI=00afa6a0
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:000af22a  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00e6fb08  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00e6fb0c  FLG=00012246

PMMAIL.EXE 0001:0009f22a



Regards,



Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            30-Nov-99 07:05:03
  To: All                                               30-Nov-99 05:19:05
Subj: Re: UltiMail mail run

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <c1.2c.2T4w4w$00X@cast.grid.sentex.net>, jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs)
writes:
>
>UltiMail from Warp v3 Red, with the 2.10.004 upgrade is working 
>well here, with a dialup connection.  I leave it running all the
>time.
>
>The system is being set up to pick up mail automatically, at set 
>times.  When it's reluctant, UltiMail can be forced to put mail 
>up with mailq.exe.  Is there a way to force it to pick up mail 
>with a .exe or umail parameter or something?

If you are handy with rexx, you could write a control program to
do this.

I have one which does the dial-up, sends any queued up out going
mail, fetches any new incoming mail, waits for me to scan the 
incoming mail and clear the inbox, and then shuts everything down.

You probably just want to start up the UML inbox, fetch any new
incoming mail, wait for you to read it, clear the inbox, and kill UML,
perhaps even on some repetitive cycle--such as every 30 min or so. 

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Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: bnc@webone.com.au                                 30-Nov-99 22:22:21
  To: All                                               30-Nov-99 10:24:19
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: bnc@webone.com.au

In <81vvoe$upb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> writes:
>Hi,
>
>Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
>times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?
>

Doug,
This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots of emails?
About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the folders get
full.
Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a 486

Brian

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From: nick@secant.com                                   29-Nov-99 10:42:23
  To: All                                               30-Nov-99 11:23:03
Subj: MR/2 ICE v2.0 Released

From: Nick Knight <nick@secant.com>

After many enhancements and bug fixes, Version 2.0 of MR/2 ICE has been
released.  

** Please read this announcement carefully before downloading **

For more information on MR/2 ICE, see:

    http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm

The distribution zip file is available now at:  

    http://cartman.secant.com/nick/mr2i201.zip

Version 2.0 is available now from my web site and several other
repositories for OS/2 shareware.  NOTE that this version will *not*
recognize v1.X keys ... this is an upgrade with a new key system and
carries an upgrade fee of $20 US for registered users of v1.0.  The price
for new users has been raised to $40.

Information on upgrading is available in the document "upreg.doc" included
in the distribution zip file.  In addition to the prefered method of
payment (check/money order sent via snail mail), BMT Micro has set up a
special UPGRADE page and Berggreen Services can also handle European
orders.  Again, see the document "upreg.doc" for all the details and
addresses. 

For your reference, the pre-release announcement I posted to a couple of
OS/2 newsgroups more than a week ago:

----------------------------------------

Major Update of MR/2 ICE Coming!

Knightware, Inc. is delighted to announce the upcoming release of a major
update to its award-winning Internet E-mail package.  Version 2.0 of the
popular OS/2 shareware MR/2 ICE will shortly be available for general
release with a number of major enhancements.  

For more info on MR/2 ICE, please see http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm. 
This page offers a FAQ, sample screen shots, converters, a Utilties
section and a wealth of other information. 

Among the enhancements offered over the prior 1.x versions are 
significant performance enhancements for large E-mail folders, major
additions to the long list of configuration options, and a host of 
additional features requested by MR/2 ICE users.  These include 
sizeable/configurable columns, aged trash, regex as an option for filter
criteria and some overall performance improvements.   Version 2.0 is also
fully Y2K compliant.

Version 2.0 will be registerable by first-time users at a cost of $40 US. 
Existing, registered v1.x users can upgrade for $20 US using the
"upreg.doc" file included with the distribution zip file.  Site license
upgrades will be available.  

Note that v1.x keys will not be recognized by a v2.0 install.

Initially released almost 4 years ago, MR/2 ICE has been the E-mail choice
of many OS/2 users, and has undergone continuous improvement and
enhancement.


Nick
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nick Knight  <nick@secant.com>       http://nick.secant.com
Senior Software Engineer
Secant Technologies, Inc.             http://www.secant.com
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           30-Nov-99 10:10:21
  To: All                                               30-Nov-99 14:39:12
Subj: Re: MR/2 ICE v2.0 Released

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <3842a02b$1$avpx$mr2ice@client.ce.news.psi.net>, on 11/29/99 at 10:42
AM,
   Nick Knight <nick@secant.com> said:

> After many enhancements and bug fixes, Version 2.0 of MR/2 ICE has been
> released.  

And a very fine product it is.

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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.0 Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           30-Nov-99 10:11:18
  To: All                                               30-Nov-99 14:39:12
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <81vvoe$upb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 11/30/99 at 07:52 AM,
   Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> said:

> Hi,

> Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
> times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?

Yep. Chuck that piece of feces for MR2 Ice.


--
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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.0 Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: jim.backus@gecm.com                               30-Nov-99 17:24:03
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: Jim Backus <jim.backus@gecm.com>

bnc@webone.com.au wrote:
> 
> In <81vvoe$upb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> writes:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
> >times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?
> >
> 
> Doug,
> This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots of
emails?
> About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the folders get
full.
> Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a 486

What is "full"? - maintaining my email is not my highest priority - I
have had morre than 500 messages in one folder and don't recall any
problems.

-- 
===
Jim Backus  jim.backus@gecm.com
Systems engineer  Tel +44 1245 702702 ext 2577

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                30-Nov-99 13:18:24
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: MR/2 ICE v2.0 Released

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> said:
>> After many enhancements and bug fixes, Version 2.0 of MR/2 ICE has been
>> released.  

>And a very fine product it is.

Including the newsreader.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: jakovacs@sentex.net                               30-Nov-99 15:23:03
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: UltiMail mail run

From: jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs)

Thanks, that's almost it.  How do I do that while leaving 
UltiMail running all the time, though?

There's a REXX script here that dials, logs on and picks up news,
and Sendmail positively puts up mail.  Then all the operations
close down, and the connection times out after three minutes of
inactivity.   I'd like it to pick up the mail reliably too, with
the UM object being up on the Desktop.

That is, I want a command that'll make UM _positively go get the
mail when the computer's logged on.

At present, UM is set to poll for mail every five minutes, 24 
hours a day since it's on all the time. A logon session typically
lasts for about ten minutes, so chances are good that an urge to
pick up the mail will hit UM while the computer's logged on.  But
nonetheless I'm looking for something positive to make it trundle
in and get the mail.

Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada

In <c1.2c.2T5DZj$06T@bozo.pro-ns.net>, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net writes:
>In <c1.2c.2T4w4w$00X@cast.grid.sentex.net>, jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs) 
writes:
>>
>>UltiMail from Warp v3 Red, with the 2.10.004 upgrade is working 
>>well here, with a dialup connection.  I leave it running all the
>>time.
>>
>>The system is being set up to pick up mail automatically, at set 
>>times.  When it's reluctant, UltiMail can be forced to put mail 
>>up with mailq.exe.  Is there a way to force it to pick up mail 
>>with a .exe or umail parameter or something?
>
>If you are handy with rexx, you could write a control program to
>do this.
>
>I have one which does the dial-up, sends any queued up out going
>mail, fetches any new incoming mail, waits for me to scan the 
>incoming mail and clear the inbox, and then shuts everything down.
>
>You probably just want to start up the UML inbox, fetch any new
>incoming mail, wait for you to read it, clear the inbox, and kill UML,
>perhaps even on some repetitive cycle--such as every 30 min or so. 
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
>Plymouth, MN
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>

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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            30-Nov-99 18:43:26
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: UltiMail mail run

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <c1.2c.2T5WJq$00b@cast.grid.sentex.net>, jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs)
writes:
>
>Thanks, that's almost it.  How do I do that while leaving 
>UltiMail running all the time, though?
>
>There's a REXX script here that dials, logs on and picks up news,
>and Sendmail positively puts up mail.  Then all the operations
>close down, and the connection times out after three minutes of
>inactivity.   I'd like it to pick up the mail reliably too, with
>the UM object being up on the Desktop.
>
>That is, I want a command that'll make UM _positively go get the
>mail when the computer's logged on.
>
>At present, UM is set to poll for mail every five minutes, 24 
>hours a day since it's on all the time. A logon session typically
>lasts for about ten minutes, so chances are good that an urge to
>pick up the mail will hit UM while the computer's logged on.  But
>nonetheless I'm looking for something positive to make it trundle
>in and get the mail.

You will have to write your own rexx script, as I did, but it's not
too hard to do, if you are handy with rexx.

Your script sequence, working off an icon, will be to start the UML
inbox.  This will start UML, connect the inbox, and fetch any new mail.
Then, you can have it stay on for a few moments while you scan the
mail, and process it.  After that, you would just kill UML.

Before all of this you will have dialed up, connected, logged on, and
have the tcpip running.  Either before you click on the icon to fetch
the mail, or after you get the mail, you could fire up your web
browser to see what's going on, or run the NR/2 to tune into your
favorite news groups.  Just think of the mail business as a separate
program package that you start up and shut down while you are
connected to the ISP.

If you want to try writing a script, perhaps I could help out.
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Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk                         30-Nov-99 18:48:24
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:24:06 +0000, Jim Backus wrote:

>bnc@webone.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Doug,
>> This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots of
emails?
>> About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the folders get
full.
>> Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a 486
>
>What is "full"? - maintaining my email is not my highest priority - I
>have had morre than 500 messages in one folder and don't recall any
>problems.
>
I'd also like to know what "full" is. Some of my folders have 1200+
messages in them. I guess I ought to archive them properly some day.


Dave
-- 
mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!


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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              30-Nov-99 15:35:11
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 00:35:06
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:24:06 +0000, Jim Backus wrote:
:>
:>What is "full"? - maintaining my email is not my highest priority - I
:>have had morre than 500 messages in one folder and don't recall any
:>problems.
:>

I'd like to know what you mean by "full" also.  I have several folders with a
few thousand messages in each.  In case you are wondering, they are archives
from several mailing lists that I keep for reference.  Very handy I might
add.  I have had to reindex a few folders.  I usually do it when I click on a
folder and no messages appear.  Reindexing fixes it.


		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)918-2480



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From: wrook@walkabout.org                               30-Nov-99 23:59:06
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 17:09:06
Subj: OS/2 Change NNTP Server.

From: Wilson Rook <wrook@walkabout.org>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Any suggestions?

Is this the one to use.  Any other OS/2 news server?


Wilson Rook

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From: bnc@webone.com.au                                 01-Dec-99 17:36:23
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 17:09:07
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: bnc@webone.com.au

In <abbaryybaqryqrzbapbhx.fm1bhc4.pminews@sharra.llondel.demon.co.uk>, "Dave
{Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk> writes:
>On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:24:06 +0000, Jim Backus wrote:
>
>>bnc@webone.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Doug,
>>> This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots of
emails?
>>> About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the folders get 
full.
>>> Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a 486
>>
>>What is "full"? - maintaining my email is not my highest priority - I
>>have had morre than 500 messages in one folder and don't recall any
>>problems.
>>
>I'd also like to know what "full" is. Some of my folders have 1200+
>messages in them. I guess I ought to archive them properly some day.

'tis amazing what some people will pick up on. By 'Full' could I have meant
LARGE i.e. contians lots of mails.

OK, I cannot beat 1200, but I have at least 5 folders with more than 500 in
and one with 900.
So is mine bigger than yours<should I rephrase that?>.

The point of the post was 'try reindexing'.
Thanks.......Brian

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From: nick@secant.com                                   01-Dec-99 09:26:17
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: Nick Knight <nick@secant.com>

In <3844c1fe.0@iridium.webone.com.au>, on 12/01/99 
   at 05:36 PM, bnc@webone.com.au said:

>OK, I cannot beat 1200, but I have at least 5 folders with more than 500
>in and one with 900. So is mine bigger than yours<should I rephrase
>that?>.

Wow, I've seen a couple of posts about "large" folders quoting 1200 or
under.  A mutated quote from Crocodile Dundee comes to mind.  "That's not
large!"

I thought MR/2 was bad by starting to get pokey after 1-2-3000 messages. 
At 10,000 messages in a folder, it was downright unusable.  Yet some users
insisted on using it for LARGE archives.  Of course, with the ability to
ZIP folders, it made this a little more practical.

Anyway, one of the HUGE enhancements in the MR/2 v2.0 release was just
this ... massively improved performance for large folders.  My 13,000
message test folder now opens in a couple of seconds and is fully
functional.  Faster systems than mine will be even faster <gasp!>.

I now have at least one user approaching the OS/2 (custom) control's limit
of 32,000 messages.  I will be able to increase this to 64k-1 messages,
easily, but I get the impression I've outdone the other guy as it is now. 
Of course, most of the fun in this is gone, as is the other guy, for all
practical purposes.

Nick
-- 
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Nick Knight  <nick@secant.com>       http://nick.secant.com
Senior Software Engineer
Secant Technologies, Inc.             http://www.secant.com
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From: dougtan23@my-deja.com                             01-Dec-99 14:49:03
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com>

In article <3843e94b$9$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>,
  Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> wrote:
> On <81vvoe$upb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 11/30/99 at 07:52 AM,
>    Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> said:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing
several
> > times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?
>
> Yep. Chuck that piece of feces for MR2 Ice.
>

Hmm.  I've never tried MR2 Ice, although I understand it's a good mail
client.  What are its advantages compared to PMMail, in your opinion?


Doug



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From: dougtan23@my-deja.com                             01-Dec-99 14:54:26
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com>

In article <3843b382.0@iridium.webone.com.au>,
> Doug,
> This is a long shot, but are your folders LARGE, i.e. contains lots
>of emails?
> About the only problem I have ever had with PMMAIL is when the
>folders get full.
> Suggest: re-index all of them. Does not take long unless you have a
>486
>
> Brian

Yes, my folders are large, typically with 1500-3000 msgs in each one.
I have numerous accounts and folders all in systematic hierarchies.  To
re-index would be a royal PITA, but one which I suspect I would have to
try since there is an amazing lack of useful suggestions (yours and the
other followups on this thread not withstanding). ;-)

Well, wish me luck...


Doug



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From: jakovacs@sentex.net                               01-Dec-99 04:36:20
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: UltiMail mail run

From: jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs)

In <c1.2c.2T5bjl$06U@bozo.pro-ns.net>, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net writes:
>In <c1.2c.2T5WJq$00b@cast.grid.sentex.net>, jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs) 
writes:
>>
>>Thanks, that's almost it.  How do I do that while leaving 
>>UltiMail running all the time, though?
>>
>>There's a REXX script here that dials, logs on and picks up news,
>>and Sendmail positively puts up mail.  Then all the operations
>>close down, and the connection times out after three minutes of
>>inactivity.   I'd like it to pick up the mail reliably too, with
>>the UM object being up on the Desktop.
>>
>>That is, I want a command that'll make UM _positively go get the
>>mail when the computer's logged on.
>>
>>At present, UM is set to poll for mail every five minutes, 24 
>>hours a day since it's on all the time. A logon session typically
>>lasts for about ten minutes, so chances are good that an urge to
>>pick up the mail will hit UM while the computer's logged on.  But
>>nonetheless I'm looking for something positive to make it trundle
>>in and get the mail.
>
>You will have to write your own rexx script, as I did, but it's not
>too hard to do, if you are handy with rexx.
>
>Your script sequence, working off an icon, will be to start the UML
>inbox.  This will start UML, connect the inbox, and fetch any new mail.
>Then, you can have it stay on for a few moments while you scan the
>mail, and process it.  After that, you would just kill UML.
>
>Before all of this you will have dialed up, connected, logged on, and
>have the tcpip running.  Either before you click on the icon to fetch
>the mail, or after you get the mail, you could fire up your web
>browser to see what's going on, or run the NR/2 to tune into your
>favorite news groups.  Just think of the mail business as a separate
>program package that you start up and shut down while you are
>connected to the ISP.
>
>If you want to try writing a script, perhaps I could help out.

Thank you, but as I said, I've _got_ that, and it's working well.
There _is a REXX script here based on the ones in Don Russell's
pppdial manual that does all these things.

_This is the problem:  I want to leave UltiMail running all the 
time.  How do I get it to fetch mail with it's _running_ already?


Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            01-Dec-99 15:46:07
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 17:09:08
Subj: Re: UltiMail mail run

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <c1.2c.2T5rwT$00i@cast.grid.sentex.net>, jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs)
writes:
>In <c1.2c.2T5bjl$06U@bozo.pro-ns.net>, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net writes:
>>In <c1.2c.2T5WJq$00b@cast.grid.sentex.net>, jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe
Kovacs) writes:
>>>
>>>Thanks, that's almost it.  How do I do that while leaving 
>>>UltiMail running all the time, though?
>>>
>>>There's a REXX script here that dials, logs on and picks up news,
>>>and Sendmail positively puts up mail.  Then all the operations
>>>close down, and the connection times out after three minutes of
>>>inactivity.   I'd like it to pick up the mail reliably too, with
>>>the UM object being up on the Desktop.
>>>
>>>That is, I want a command that'll make UM _positively go get the
>>>mail when the computer's logged on.
>>>
>>>At present, UM is set to poll for mail every five minutes, 24 
>>>hours a day since it's on all the time. A logon session typically
>>>lasts for about ten minutes, so chances are good that an urge to
>>>pick up the mail will hit UM while the computer's logged on.  But
>>>nonetheless I'm looking for something positive to make it trundle
>>>in and get the mail.
>>
>>You will have to write your own rexx script, as I did, but it's not
>>too hard to do, if you are handy with rexx.
>>
>>Your script sequence, working off an icon, will be to start the UML
>>inbox.  This will start UML, connect the inbox, and fetch any new mail.
>>Then, you can have it stay on for a few moments while you scan the
>>mail, and process it.  After that, you would just kill UML.
>>
>>Before all of this you will have dialed up, connected, logged on, and
>>have the tcpip running.  Either before you click on the icon to fetch
>>the mail, or after you get the mail, you could fire up your web
>>browser to see what's going on, or run the NR/2 to tune into your
>>favorite news groups.  Just think of the mail business as a separate
>>program package that you start up and shut down while you are
>>connected to the ISP.
>>
>>If you want to try writing a script, perhaps I could help out.
>
>Thank you, but as I said, I've _got_ that, and it's working well.
>There _is a REXX script here based on the ones in Don Russell's
>pppdial manual that does all these things.
>
>_This is the problem:  I want to leave UltiMail running all the 
>time.  How do I get it to fetch mail with it's _running_ already?

I guess I do not see exactly what you are trying to say.  Let's try to
get more precise about it.

UML can be started in  4 ways-by trying to compose a letter, by opening
the address book, by opening the Mail Box, and by opening the in-basket.
Once UML is running, any one of the 4 components can be closed without
closing down the whole program--except the Mail Box.  If you close this,
you automatically close the entlre UML program and all of the functions.
You can do this either off-line (not connected), or on-line (connected).

Do you want to get connected, and then keep this part running in the
background, which it will do, while being able to open and close the
in-basket?  Each time the in-basket is opened, it automatically does
a mail fetch. And, if, while UML is running in the background, and the
in-basket is closed, you should happen to get a new in-coming message,
it will signal you with a bloop.  Then you can open the in-basket, and
it will fetch the new message.

If you are going to do this manually while connected, why not just use
the mouse to open and close the in-basket only?  Or am I missing your
point?  Please explain in more detail.

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Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: sh0dan@ZZZvoxpod.dk                               01-Dec-99 17:22:17
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 20:37:29
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: sh0dan@ZZZvoxpod.dk (sh0dan)

On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:52:46, Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> wrote:

> Can anyone help regarding the frequent crashes I'm experiencing several
> times a day with PMMail/2 v2.10?

I got several crashes of exactly the same crashes (same locations and 
all).
Very annoying, and there is no way to reproduce them, just happends at 
random.


/sh0dan.

Doing Java Code for VoxPod Enterprises.

[email reply: Remove uppercase characters from my email address]

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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk                         01-Dec-99 18:46:11
  To: All                                               01-Dec-99 20:38:00
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 09:26:35 -0500, Nick Knight wrote:

>In <3844c1fe.0@iridium.webone.com.au>, on 12/01/99 
>   at 05:36 PM, bnc@webone.com.au said:
>
>>OK, I cannot beat 1200, but I have at least 5 folders with more than 500
>>in and one with 900. So is mine bigger than yours<should I rephrase
>>that?>.
>
>Wow, I've seen a couple of posts about "large" folders quoting 1200 or
>under.  A mutated quote from Crocodile Dundee comes to mind.  "That's not
>large!"
>
Depends on what you consider practical - when certain folders get too
big I move some of the contents to other folders so I have to spend
less time searching when I need to reference an old email.


Dave
-- 
mail da ve@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!


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From: simplmindihed@mindspring.com                      01-Dec-99 21:10:07
  To: All                                               02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: POP/3 mail cfg under Notes/2 4.5

From: Jay Withee <simplmindihed@mindspring.com>

I came across a CD with Windows (3.1/95/98), Mac AND OS/2 versions of
Lotus Domino and Notes 4.5. I know there was a noteinet.exe file that
added Internet mail functionality to the 4.1 mail client that shipped
with Warp 4. I've tried configuring 4.5 for Internet mail, to no avail.
In the windows version of 4.53 (which I use at work), there's a help
file on POP mail; no such animal in the OS/2 4.5.

Help requested from anyone who knows how. TIA

J

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From: jakovacs@sentex.net                               02-Dec-99 01:16:29
  To: All                                               02-Dec-99 03:28:00
Subj: Re: UltiMail mail run

From: jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs)

<PLONK!>



In <c1.2c.2T67Wq$06V@bozo.pro-ns.net>, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net writes:
>In <c1.2c.2T5rwT$00i@cast.grid.sentex.net>, jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs) 
writes:
>>In <c1.2c.2T5bjl$06U@bozo.pro-ns.net>, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net writes:
>>>In <c1.2c.2T5WJq$00b@cast.grid.sentex.net>, jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe
Kovacs) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Thanks, that's almost it.  How do I do that while leaving 
>>>>UltiMail running all the time, though?
>>>>
>>>>There's a REXX script here that dials, logs on and picks up news,
>>>>and Sendmail positively puts up mail.  Then all the operations
>>>>close down, and the connection times out after three minutes of
>>>>inactivity.   I'd like it to pick up the mail reliably too, with
>>>>the UM object being up on the Desktop.
>>>>
>>>>That is, I want a command that'll make UM _positively go get the
>>>>mail when the computer's logged on.
>>>>
>>>>At present, UM is set to poll for mail every five minutes, 24 
>>>>hours a day since it's on all the time. A logon session typically
>>>>lasts for about ten minutes, so chances are good that an urge to
>>>>pick up the mail will hit UM while the computer's logged on.  But
>>>>nonetheless I'm looking for something positive to make it trundle
>>>>in and get the mail.
>>>
>>>You will have to write your own rexx script, as I did, but it's not
>>>too hard to do, if you are handy with rexx.
>>>
>>>Your script sequence, working off an icon, will be to start the UML
>>>inbox.  This will start UML, connect the inbox, and fetch any new mail.
>>>Then, you can have it stay on for a few moments while you scan the
>>>mail, and process it.  After that, you would just kill UML.
>>>
>>>Before all of this you will have dialed up, connected, logged on, and
>>>have the tcpip running.  Either before you click on the icon to fetch
>>>the mail, or after you get the mail, you could fire up your web
>>>browser to see what's going on, or run the NR/2 to tune into your
>>>favorite news groups.  Just think of the mail business as a separate
>>>program package that you start up and shut down while you are
>>>connected to the ISP.
>>>
>>>If you want to try writing a script, perhaps I could help out.
>>
>>Thank you, but as I said, I've _got_ that, and it's working well.
>>There _is a REXX script here based on the ones in Don Russell's
>>pppdial manual that does all these things.
>>
>>_This is the problem:  I want to leave UltiMail running all the 
>>time.  How do I get it to fetch mail with it's _running_ already?
>
>I guess I do not see exactly what you are trying to say.  Let's try to
>get more precise about it.
>
>UML can be started in  4 ways-by trying to compose a letter, by opening
>the address book, by opening the Mail Box, and by opening the in-basket.
>Once UML is running, any one of the 4 components can be closed without
>closing down the whole program--except the Mail Box.  If you close this,
>you automatically close the entlre UML program and all of the functions.
>You can do this either off-line (not connected), or on-line (connected).
>
>Do you want to get connected, and then keep this part running in the
>background, which it will do, while being able to open and close the
>in-basket?  Each time the in-basket is opened, it automatically does
>a mail fetch. And, if, while UML is running in the background, and the
>in-basket is closed, you should happen to get a new in-coming message,
>it will signal you with a bloop.  Then you can open the in-basket, and
>it will fetch the new message.
>
>If you are going to do this manually while connected, why not just use
>the mouse to open and close the in-basket only?  Or am I missing your
>point?  Please explain in more detail.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
>Plymouth, MN
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>




Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz                          02-Dec-99 02:45:07
  To: All                                               02-Dec-99 03:28:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 Change NNTP Server.

From: "Timur Kazimirov" <timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz>

Hello Wilson,

On Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:59:13 -0500, Wilson Rook wrote:

>Any suggestions?
>
>Is this the one to use.  Any other OS/2 news server?

The only one free full-featured NNTP server.
There is an excellent and cheap commercial NNTP server DNews
(http://netwinsite.com). AFAIK, the latest OS/2 version is 47f...

If you need the only retrive newsgroups from the higher level another
NNTP server, you can use Slurp - passive news transport agent
(ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/news/server/slrp108a.zip)


With best regards,
Timur Kazimirov

-- Remove all "z" from my address to reply



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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           02-Dec-99 08:39:12
  To: All                                               02-Dec-99 15:58:12
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <823cgq$dgr$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 12/01/99 at 02:49 PM,
   Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> said:

> Hmm.  I've never tried MR2 Ice, although I understand it's a good mail
> client.  What are its advantages compared to PMMail, in your opinion?

Speed. Reliability. Continuing development. Active participation by the
author with users via email.

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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 02-Dec-99 09:14:14
  To: All                                               02-Dec-99 15:58:12
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Nick Knight <nick@secant.com> wrote:

(schnip)

>Of course, most of the fun in this is gone, as is the other guy, for all
>practical purposes.
>
>Nick

Now, now, Nick, don't you think it's a bit early to start
throwing stones?  That's what they used to say that about
you, remember... I believe they're working on it.

Btw, for anyone who's interested in PMMail, the best place
to post questions and feedback is the PMMail listserv.  To
subscribe, send a message to <listar@rpglink.com> with the
command "subscribe pmmail" in the body of the message.


-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            03-Dec-99 10:16:27
  To: All                                               03-Dec-99 10:26:26
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.10 crashes - What's causing them?

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <823crk$dlb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Doug Tan <dougtan23@my-deja.com> writes:
>Yes, my folders are large, typically with 1500-3000 msgs in each one.
>I have numerous accounts and folders all in systematic hierarchies.  To
>re-index would be a royal PITA, but one which I suspect I would have to
>try since there is an amazing lack of useful suggestions (yours and the
>other followups on this thread not withstanding). ;-)

Have you tried contacting he author directly?  I think he is pretty
available.  I am only now trying this program out, to see if I want to
keep it and register it.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            03-Dec-99 10:16:29
  To: All                                               03-Dec-99 10:26:26
Subj: Re: UltiMail mail run

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <c1.2c.2T6NRZ$00l@cast.grid.sentex.net>, jakovacs@sentex.net  (Joe Kovacs)
writes:
>
><PLONK!>

OK, I guess we found something.  We can also add one more thing
to thid discussion.

You can start UML, by say opening the Mail Box, and then minimizing
it--perhaps when you reboot your computer, or perhaps even throw a rexx
script in the startup.cmd to do this.

After that you can connect, disconnect, reconnect--or whatever, and
UML will automatically detect if you are connected and do what it
is supposed to do--no need to even shut it down just because you
disconnected.

Cheers, and happy UMAILing!

-----------------------------------------------------------
Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               03-Dec-99 18:00:18
  To: All                                               03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: Majordomo or similar for OS/2 ?

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

Hi, (sorry for double/cross posting)

Can anyone recommend software to run on os/2 along the lines of
Majordomo.  The machine os would be WSeB (but I can always run it on
Warp 4 if that is a problem).

I am not interested in many of the facilities a proper majordomo would
have (ie. users can subscribe, desubscribe and so on).  I am happy to do
these jobs manually as I need to have control of the list(s) anyway.

TIA.
Charles

 
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Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
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From: etschmeisser@tasc.com                             03-Dec-99 13:09:22
  To: All                                               03-Dec-99 20:03:07
Subj: netscape news: multipart picture/avi binaries?

From: elmar schmeisser <etschmeisser@tasc.com>

Is there any easy way to set up netscape news to automatically
retrieve/combine and interpret binaries?  It handles one part binaries
perfectly with an internal viewer, but multipart binaries seem to be
beyond it.
-- 
p.s. this server gets only about 30% of the news posts.  E-mail in
parallel to 
elmar.schmeisser@hedo.brooks.af.mil would be greatly appreciated.

- elmar

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