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From: norrisg@spam_free_linkline.com                    19-Nov-99 18:55:12
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 03:28:01
Subj: Re: Memory Recovery Tool?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@spam_free_linkline.com>

Clobbering orphaned memory is almost impossible to do safely. The memory
in question is almost certainly shared memory, or it would go away when
the Netscape process dies: if the process doesn't die, then that's a
different problem.

The problem with shared memory is that it is impossible to know what may
be using a pointer to something in it. If you clobber the memory, what
comes down next will be unpredictable! An approach used in a product I
worked on involved running through all the known system control blocks
looking for references to the "orphaned" memory: if any reference was
found obviously it isn't orphaned. If no references were found there
were three possible actions: report the finding but do nothing, ask what
to do, or clobber the memory automatically. The idea here was that you'd
use the report option for a while to get an idea of what's happening,
then change to use ask and see what happens. For instances where
allowing the memory to be clobbered did not cause any problems, those
specific circumstances would be switch to auto mode. All in all, a
distinctly non-trivial task.

Graham.

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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               19-Nov-99 21:18:08
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 03:28:01
Subj: Re: Quicktime in os/2

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

>"rnaber@vcn.com" schrieb:
>> 
>> I am trying to get Quicktime to run in os/2 but am having problems.
>> 
>> the control panel icon for quicktime shows up and works allow's
>> modifiing quicktime options. but I can't get quicktime to run when
>> using a quicktime viewer supplied with a commerical cd-rom disk.
>> 
>> any ideas on how to get quicktime to run, or updates for 3.1 windows
>> drivers that will work with os/2.

Go to http://www.quickmotion.com
You can get native OS/2 Quick time.


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From: hpholm@post1.tele.dk                              20-Nov-99 02:55:06
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 03:28:01
Subj: Re: Anyone have documentation for DIRCMD?

From: hpholm@post1.tele.dk (Hans Peter Holm)

Brad BARCLAY wrote:

[dircmd]
>       There is, however, at least one switch which doesn't appear in either: 

> /V.  /V will cause the archived, system, hidden and read-only atribute
> state to be shown with the files.  For example:
    <<<snip>>>

Thanks!

/O: takes sub-switches, making things even more complex. My favourite 
over many years is SET DIRCMD=/O:GN - directories before files and 
both in alphabetic order.

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From: SkidMARX@att.net                                  20-Nov-99 03:42:04
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 03:28:01
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: SkidMARX@att.net

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:33:33, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug 
Bissett) wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:07:33, csaba_r@my-deja.com (Csaba Raduly) 
> wrote:
> 
> > Isn't the font palette limited to eight entries ?
> >  
> > Csaba
> > --
> 
> It will only display 8 at one time, but you could have thousands of 
> fonts installed behind the display. Clicking Edit Font allows you to 
> select which font (and the size) to display, in the selected 
> posistion, from all of the installed fonts. All of the installed fonts
> will be available to any program that supports changing fonts.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

FYI ...

If you have Object Desktop 2.x there is a neat tool named "Object 
Inspector" ...

With it one can modify assorted and various parameters of WPS objects.
For instance I changed my font palette to display 12 different fonts, 
and I tightened up the horizontal/vertical spacing of the cells 
holding the Font name ...

All in all it is a neat toy to play with :=)

Gregory L. Marx
skidmarx@att.net

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From: annv1@ibm.net                                     19-Nov-99 21:54:04
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 03:28:01
Subj: Re: Anyone have documentation for DIRCMD?

From: "Ann Vanderlaan" <annv1@ibm.net>

Thank you all for your information. My interest in DIRCMD stems
from the fact that the options

SET DIRCMD=/ON/P

seems to prevent the successful installation of DB/2 version 6.1.
It hangs the icon creation script in particular.


On 20 Nov 1999 02:55:13 GMT, Hans Peter Holm wrote:

>Brad BARCLAY wrote:
>
>[dircmd]
>>       There is, however, at least one switch which doesn't appear in
either: 
>> /V.  /V will cause the archived, system, hidden and read-only atribute
>> state to be shown with the files.  For example:
>    <<<snip>>>
>
>Thanks!
>
>/O: takes sub-switches, making things even more complex. My favourite 
>over many years is SET DIRCMD=/O:GN - directories before files and 
>both in alphabetic order.
>
>-- 
>Hans



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From: wwilly@one.net                                    20-Nov-99 04:17:08
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 03:28:01
Subj: Re: Update - Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system.

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <3835b8f9$1$feq$mr2ice@news.cwcom.net>,
  Steve Drewell <srd@x.mcmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 at 10:59 -0800, J. N. Pfisterer
<an479@lafn.org>
> wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> have Netscape's memory
> cache and disk cache set to zero already due to the
100% CPU problem which
> was discussed a short while ago.

No, the advice was to use a large RAM cache & a
token, small disk cache.  I'm running 16M RAM & 128K
disk.  I had been running 16M RAM & 0 disk, which
actually makes more sense, but for some reason,
causes endless problems, especially when opening
multiple instantiations of the browser.  I admit I'm
not using Smartcache, but I have to say that the
magic bullet for me was to simply provide a tiny disk
cache & 6 months of endless pain just went away.  As
did my repeated posting about it.  Jeff Kobal hasn't
explicitly acknowledged my silence, but I just know
he appreciates it. <:-))

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: gbritton@!britton.dhs.org                         20-Nov-99 05:58:25
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 03:28:02
Subj: Re: Memory Recovery Tool?

From: "Gerry Britton" <gbritton@!britton.dhs.org>

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:55:25 -0800, Graham C. Norris wrote:

>then change to use ask and see what happens. For instances where
>allowing the memory to be clobbered did not cause any problems, those
>specific circumstances would be switch to auto mode. All in all, a
>distinctly non-trivial task.

Yada yada yada yada

Use ALLOCMEM.EXE, it'll do what is required, and the only "shared memory"
prob is your folders will open as slowly as right after boot, but only on the
next instance.




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From: steint@stud.ntnu.no                               20-Nov-99 11:39:13
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 10:33:13
Subj: Java applet problem

From: "Stein L. Tomassen" <steint@stud.ntnu.no>

Hi,

I have a problem useing the keyboard i Java applets. It looks like the applet
doesn't get keyboard focus. As an example Java games at
http://www.gamesdomain.co.uk.

Am I missing some setting or do anybody else have this problem.

Stein


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From: oraeder@attglobal.net                             20-Nov-99 11:49:17
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 10:33:14
Subj: Re: JAVA 118 install problem, solved, thanks

From: Otto =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E4der?= <oraeder@attglobal.net>

thanks to all who answered,
the problem was very simple,
all my plugins for nsc461 have been gone
(i do not know how they disappeared).
after restoring them everything worked.
-------------------------------------------
          Gruesse aus Mauerbach
              Otto Raeder


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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au                               20-Nov-99 11:25:10
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 10:33:14
Subj: Re: Can't view JPEG files.

From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:05:19, Nelson and Satasha Williams 
<matt196@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Can anyone PLEASE tell me why I can't view JPGs anymore?  It simply
> brings up the viewer box, but never shows the picture.  The only way to
> kill it is to open the WINDOW LIST, select the picture, and then CLOSE.
> Can anyone tell me why this phenomenon has happened?  I have to view
> them in, gulp........, Windows now.  please help.
> 
> Using Warp4, FP12
> 
> Nelson
> 
> 
> --
> Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of
> this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message,
> be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter
> as a result.
> 
I recall having a similar problem that was "fixed" when I 
used Watchcat to kill a now not showing on the Crtl-Esc list
list of programs view of the file that caused the problem. 
But I had to reboot for vieweer to then work again.  So if 
you are confident that all the viewer boxes have been killed
properly (and if not set restart  in config.sys file to the 
appropriate entry to not restart programs) try rebooting and
then try opening a file that you know you have successfully 
opened with viewer before to see if it works.

I have no idea why, whether this solution is repeatable on 
other machines (or other configurations) but it worked for 
me. 

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         19-Nov-99 10:47:15
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 10:33:15
Subj: Re: Memory Recovery Tool?

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:42:40 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

Your request is a solution for a false question. Netscape does not crash
(very often) if OS/2 performs correct. So the real question is: which os/2
version is performing superb? 

Well, simple fixpak12 with one of the new pmmerge.dll's.

Arjen

:>When Netscape crashes, memory disappears, never to be restored to the
:>available pool without a reboot. I estimate this is somewhere around
:>5-10 Mb per crash, but it doesn't happen after every crash. It also
:>seems to happen just by using Netscape for more than a couple hours or
:>so without exiting and restarting it. Since I use it for news, mail and
:>browsing, this isn't so easy to remember to do. I reboot before swapper
:>growth is evident, usually when free RAM gets down below 30 Mb with
:>Netscape loaded. Swapper is set very small and I have 128 Mb RAM.



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From: greywolf@onlink.net                               20-Nov-99 12:11:13
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 14:53:12
Subj: Re: Can't view JPEG files.

From: "Wolf Kirchmeir" <greywolf@onlink.net>

On 20 Nov 1999 11:25:20 GMT, Richard A Crane wrote:

=>On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:05:19, Nelson and Satasha Williams 
=><matt196@mindspring.com> wrote:
=>
=>> Can anyone PLEASE tell me why I can't view JPGs anymore? 

SNIP

=>I recall having a similar problem that was "fixed" when I 
=>used Watchcat to kill a now not showing on the Crtl-Esc list
=>list of programs view of the file that caused the problem. 
=>But I had to reboot for vieweer to then work again.  So if 
=>you are confident that all the viewer boxes have been killed
=>properly (and if not set restart  in config.sys file to the 
=>appropriate entry to not restart programs) try rebooting and
=>then try opening a file that you know you have successfully 
=>opened with viewer before to see if it works.
=>
=>I have no idea why, whether this solution is repeatable on 
=>other machines (or other configurations) but it worked for 
=>me. 
=>
=>Richard A Crane
=>Barrister & Solicitor
=>slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
=>octa4.net.au 
=>OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

I have the same problem. It seems to be a bug in the Viewer

However: I've noticed that some files the Viewer can't see are not seen by
GWSDOS either. Thus, I suspect a glitch is in the header information of the
JPEG file. But why should this be? Has anyone noticed whether particular
sources are more  prone to this problem than others? (GWSDOS is an old but
good graphics converter -- orphanware now, unfortunately.)



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From: bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net                        20-Nov-99 13:10:29
  To: All                                               20-Nov-99 18:58:10
Subj: Re: Memory Recovery Tool?

From: Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>

Gerry Britton wrote:
 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:55:25 -0800, Graham C. Norris wrote:
 
> >then change to use ask and see what happens. For instances where
> >allowing the memory to be clobbered did not cause any problems, those
> >specific circumstances would be switch to auto mode. All in all, a
> >distinctly non-trivial task.
 
> Yada yada yada yada
 
> Use ALLOCMEM.EXE, it'll do what is required, and the only "shared memory"
> prob is your folders will open as slowly as right after boot, but only on
the
> next instance.

Thanks, but I can't find this on my boot drive, IBM EWS FTP, or Hobbes.
Can't reach FTP Search site either. Where can I get ALLOCMEM.EXE?
-- 
He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers
harm.                Proverbs 13:20 NKJV

 Team OS/2

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net

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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  20-Nov-99 18:17:13
  To: All                                               21-Nov-99 02:58:01
Subj: Re: Java applet problem

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <fgrvagfghqagahab.fli8xq0.pminews@news.ntnu.no>, on 11/20/99 at 11:39
AM,
   "Stein L. Tomassen" <steint@stud.ntnu.no> said:

>http://www.gamesdomain.co.uk.

I just tried it and shot a couple of dozen thingies out of the screen.

Do you have Java 1.1.8 installed???
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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               20-Nov-99 18:50:10
  To: All                                               21-Nov-99 02:58:02
Subj: Re: Daniela I LOVE YOU!

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

Maybe IBM should hand all rights of OS/2 over to her and she can kick
Microslops butt.

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:05:42 GMT, Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. wrote:

>Okay, so I have no idea who she is, how old she is, marital status, sexual
>preference, etc.  All I know is that she is doing something IBM has shown a
>marked reluctance to do:  Keep OS/2 running on modern hardware!  I don't have
>any IDE devices on my system so her replacement driver for IBM1S506 really
>meant nothing to me, but I have been running a computer with 128M of RAM with
>OS/2 ignoring half of it.  That changed after I used her patchldr.zip
>(available from hobbes) to patch OS2LDR on my system.
>
>At first it didn't want to work, something on my system was keeping OS2LDR
>allocated so PatchLDR wouldn't work.  I rebooted from floppy diskette and
>tried it again and this time it worked.  When I rebooted, suddenly all 128M
>of RAM was visible to OS/2!  Thanks, Daniela!  If it were possible for me to
>bear your children, I would!


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From: steint@stud.ntnu.no                               21-Nov-99 00:55:15
  To: All                                               21-Nov-99 02:58:02
Subj: Re: Java applet problem

From: "Stein L. Tomassen" <steint@stud.ntnu.no>

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:17:27 -0500, mchasson@ibm.net wrote:

>In <fgrvagfghqagahab.fli8xq0.pminews@news.ntnu.no>, on 11/20/99 at 11:39
>AM,
>   "Stein L. Tomassen" <steint@stud.ntnu.no> said:
>
>>http://www.gamesdomain.co.uk.
>
>I just tried it and shot a couple of dozen thingies out of the screen.
>
>Do you have Java 1.1.8 installed???
Yes, and I have had this problem for some time now. From witch version I don
not remeber.

Stein


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From: karen_c_ro@hotmail.com                            21-Nov-99 12:06:14
  To: All                                               21-Nov-99 02:58:02
Subj: Re: Help for OS/2 users

From: "Karen" <karen_c_ro@hotmail.com>

Thanks, it's really a good place.

Kelvin



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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    21-Nov-99 03:16:10
  To: All                                               21-Nov-99 02:58:02
Subj: Re: Daniela I LOVE YOU!

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. (Spammers@Bite.Me) wrote:

: of RAM was visible to OS/2!  Thanks, Daniela!  If it were possible for me to
: bear your children, I would!

	You'll have to fight most other single guys here!  ;-)

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           21-Nov-99 05:22:28
  To: All                                               21-Nov-99 02:58:02
Subj: Re: Daniela I LOVE YOU!

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 03:16:21, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John 
Hong) wrote:

> Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. (Spammers@Bite.Me) wrote:
> 
> : of RAM was visible to OS/2!  Thanks, Daniela!  If it were possible for me
to
> : bear your children, I would!
> 
> 	You'll have to fight most other single guys here!  ;-)
> 
And half the married ones (to their computer that is.... :-)


Lorne


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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          20-Nov-99 23:23:26
  To: All                                               21-Nov-99 05:24:18
Subj: Re: Memory Recovery Tool?

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:10:59, Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net> 
wrote:
 
> Thanks, but I can't find this on my boot drive, IBM EWS FTP, or Hobbes.
> Can't reach FTP Search site either. Where can I get ALLOCMEM.EXE?

 ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/memory/allocmem.zip

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: ddudley@inspired-designs.net                      21-Nov-99 01:55:07
  To: All                                               21-Nov-99 05:24:19
Subj: Re: WS4eB Server Crashes and Love/Hate relationships

From: David Dudley <ddudley@inspired-designs.net>


Lorne Sunley wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:24:55, David Dudley <ddudley@intcomm.net>
> wrote:
> <snip - - - away my own drivel>

>
> Scott Garfinkle is currently working on JFS/kerrnel problems
> and posted a couple of files on testcase a week ago for
> general "beta" testing....
>

I got the basic JFS fix from Scott some time ago.  I have another server, that 
gets WAY
more disk activity, running WS4eB with those fixes, which has been running,
unconcerned
with its brother/sister - the crash-king next door, for over 2 months now,
without even
a glitch.  The one that crashes, crashes quite a bit, but the JFS system
appears to be
the most solid thing I ever saw in my life.  It runs thru its little chkdsk
thingy...,
merrily announces "the file system is clean", and then its off to the races
again.  So
far, I'd give IBM an A+ on that part, although I have a feeling that if things 
actually
did get screwed up.... "you're outta luck, buddy - recover from backup".

Problem is, I don't think this is associated with JFS.  It appears to be
associated with
the TCP/IP stack stuff.  Looking thru what I have of the log files of the
program in
question, though, its relatively multi-threaded (I have it set to 200 threads. 
 Reducing
the count doesn't reduce the crash frequency, but slows down processing), has
an
executive task and 2 children tasks, uses interprocess communications between
them, and
quite a lot of mutual exclusion semaphore calls.

One of the things that concern me is, as the task continues, the socket
numbers it uses
increment constantly, even though they are opened, and closed, at the
beginning and
ending of each transaction.  Does the stack not reuse socket ID's, or do they
just wrap
around when they get too big?

Talked to IBM on Friday about handling this problem.... they told me they had
discontinued the 'per occurance' problem fixes, and I would have to get a
"Support Line"
contract to get the problem looked at.  Just got a quote from them.... ain't
no way I'm
going to pay them $2,721.60 to fix THEIR problem.  When Monday comes, that
lady at
Global Services had better have here supervisor around.  I didn't pay for Warp 
Server,
and Upgrade Protection to get a really good piece of software (Warp Server
Advanced),
and an upgrade to a much less stable piece of @#$% that won't run programs
from Warp
Server reliably.  If I can't get it fixed, I WANT A REFUND!

Later-
David

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   21-Nov-99 05:56:29
  To: All                                               21-Nov-99 10:40:10
Subj: Re: communicator 4.61 bug

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

"F. Heitkamp" wrote:
> 
> I've tried a couple ftp sites with the new communicator 4.61
> 990915 and the text doesn't show up next to the folders and at
> the top (banner).  The sites were ftp.xfree86.org and
> sourceware.cygnus.org.  Am I missing something or is this a bug.
> The old beta I was using worked fine.
> 
> Fred

This is related to the fixed font problem. Change your Fixed Font
setting to something other than the default
(Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts)
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From: sr0939@csc.albany.edu                             22-Nov-99 00:57:12
  To: All                                               22-Nov-99 05:13:04
Subj: print preview  from Netscape 4.61 not working - need new Picview?

From: Stephen Reimer <sr0939@csc.albany.edu>

I double click on printjobs and they come up in Picview.

I have recently had trouble viewing *.spl spooler files with the
picture viewer.  The odd files were produced by the laserjet driver
for the Netscape 4.61

Files produced for Star office (Sun-5.1) and PMView (1.05) were nicely
viewable so I can infer that netscape produces weird spool files that
picview somehow objects to.

Picview says that the file is of an incorrect or invalid format, and
yet they print fine.

Is this netscape somehow screwing up the printout so that the driver
or PM makes weird files?

--
Stephen R. Reimer  / CSI BS w/Linguistics Minor + pursuing Bio!!
sr0939 at <sea>sc.albany.edu       http://www.albany.edu/~sr0939
APO - ADH                          UAlbany
OS/2 Maniac                        SpeedFreak
 if it ain't broke I'll fix it anyway...
<sea> is a homonym for a single letter in english.


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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         22-Nov-99 09:02:16
  To: All                                               22-Nov-99 05:13:04
Subj: Javascript bug

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

A javascript pointer breaking free.

11-21-1999  10:39:21  SYS3175  PID 0067  TID 0002  Slot 0083
C:\PROGRAM.MAP\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1e181dc6
P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=01676900  EBX=00000000  ECX=016d9830  EDX=00000000
ESI=016d9830  EDI=0165f3f9  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e181dc6  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00f8eb08  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00f8eb30  FLG=00012206

JS3246.DLL 0001:00001dc6



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From: vvygih@trespass.net                               22-Nov-99 09:23:03
  To: All                                               22-Nov-99 10:32:07
Subj: homework help  7761

From: vvygih@trespass.net

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Please post this in your news group.
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From: gords@idirect.com                                 22-Nov-99 13:40:07
  To: All                                               22-Nov-99 12:11:10
Subj: trouble with file ops in GUI

From: Gord Schindler <gords@idirect.com>

I'm running W4 with the latest fixpacks and driver FP.  I've had this
problem since the initial install.  When I try and drag files from 1
folder to another they appear to create a shadow instead.  In fact the
file does not show as a shadow in the "file" page..it shows as an
original and still living in the old folder.  As well, chances are the
system will hang shortly after.  Also, none of the templates in the
template folder can be used.  They appear to drag off but immediately
hang up the system.  An error will be posted in the system error log
just before it hangs.  I found the same problem in OS2 works but after
removing and re-installing Works that was solved.  An example of the
posted error is:
11/21/99  06:53:36 pm        62         2  PMWP.DLL  A WorkPlace Shell
Exception has occurred. Exception Type: c0000005  Exception location:
00000000

It is always the same error.
File ops can be performed ok from the command prompt.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Gord





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From: ddudley@inspired-designs.net                      22-Nov-99 11:50:03
  To: All                                               22-Nov-99 21:38:28
Subj: Re: WS4eB Server Crashes and Love/Hate relationships

From: David Dudley <ddudley@inspired-designs.net>

Do you have the TRAP info? - perhaps it could give some hint where to
look.

Have you tried cloking down your system, to see if it is the CPU
overheating, RAM failing, or checked (replaced) your harddisk cabling?
Often such random crashes are related to unstable hardware. (I have a
problem, where the display drivers crash, after more than 6 hours of
intensive work on hot summer nights).

System is in our server room, 72deg constant temp, this is a brand new
mother board and fan (although it did the same thing with the old one),
each and every part of the system has been replaced with new or
different equipment (although it did exactly the same thing with each
and every old part ;-),  I didn't want to bother anyone any more till I
was sure it wasn't the hardware.  Running on ANYTHING other than WS4eB,
the system is as stable as a rock, with the same application software
running, even with the same hardware, and disks, and other pieces
running (I installed Warp Server on another partition).  This is a
mystery to me.

System is set to do an automatic crash dump whenever it fails (otherwise
I think it would lock up in the middle of the night... this is a server,
after all).  When it restarts, the startup.cmd file copies the crash
dump file to a backup directory, on another drive.  In past 4 days, I
have 15 200MB crash dump files, any of which I would be glad to provide
to anyone who wants to take a crack at this  (for something like
that,... I might even be willing to PAY!.... but not IBM's prices ;-).
I have no idea precicely where to look for this.

Later-

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From: gords@idirect.com                                 22-Nov-99 21:16:17
  To: All                                               22-Nov-99 21:38:28
Subj: Re: trouble with file ops in GUI

From: Gord Schindler <gords@idirect.com>


Jim Parker wrote:

> Gord Schindler wrote:
>
> >
> > It is always the same error.
> > File ops can be performed ok from the command prompt.
> > Any ideas?
> > Thanks
> > Gord
>
> Please clarify something: my Warp 4 doesn't have a templates folder. Warp
> 3 has a templates folder. Are you really running Warp 4? If so where
> is/did you get a templates folder?
>
> I'm having no such difficulty with my Warp 4 FP9 system.
>
> Thanks
> Jim

Yes, W4 uses templates.  The template folder lives in the OS2 System
folder..  I'm definitely running W4.
Gord


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From: us@appo.demon.co.uk                               22-Nov-99 17:21:27
  To: All                                               23-Nov-99 03:21:16
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 bugs with large page

From: "Marcus, Aviva and Rhiannon" <us@appo.demon.co.uk>

Hi...

Mat Nieuwenhoven wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think I found two real bugs.
> [snip]
> 
> So far it looks like the OS/2 version is the best of the lot for this
> large HTML page! Great product! Thanks guys.
> 
> Regards, Mat Nieuwenhoven

If I EVER need a tester for one of my programs I will contact you!

You deserve a prize.

yours, Marcus.
-- 
Marcus, Aviva and Rhiannon at the 'Appo Site'
Marcus: marcus@appo.demon.co.uk
Aviva: aviva@appo.demon.co.uk
Rhiannon: rhiannon@appo.demon.co.uk


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    23-Nov-99 06:49:03
  To: All                                               23-Nov-99 05:47:06
Subj: Re: Anyone have documentation for DIRCMD?

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.flmqpf0.pminews@netnews.worldn
et.att.net>,
  "Mike Ruskai"
<retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:45:54 -0500, Brad BARCLAY
wrote:
> >Ann Vanderlaan wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> >> SET DIRCMD=/ON/P
        <<<snip>>>
> Wouldn't starting the install program from a
session in which the
> environment variable has been negated also work,
without a reboot?  Surely
> all subsequent programs are started as child
programs, with the same
> environment, no?

CALL would run the called program or script with the
temporarily modified SET DIRCMD, inheriting the
environment from the caller.  START would not.  START
doesn't call the other program.  It launches it
asynchronously in an independent thread, so it would
revert to the system setting.  Apparently, there's
some STARTs involved in the DB/2 install.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           23-Nov-99 09:49:05
  To: All                                               23-Nov-99 10:20:09
Subj: Re: OS2 FixPak's Install all or just latest?

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:14:49, Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>
wrote:

> 
> My SERVICE.LOG indicates the attempt to archive fails. I
> tried several times. Since the installer apparently provides no option
> to not archive, I can get nowhere. There is about 170 Mb free on the F:\
> boot drive where archives existed before I deleted them. The installer
> failed to indicate inadequate free space. CHKDSK reports no errors. I
> found no help on the CD. What do I do next?

First clue, you deleted the archives....

The error is occuring because some other files
established by the fixpack say that there ARE archives.

The readme file tells you what files to delete to get around
this problem.


--

Lorne Sunley

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               22-Nov-99 15:55:04
  To: All                                               23-Nov-99 10:20:09
Subj: Re: trouble with file ops in GUI

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Jim Parker wrote:
> Please clarify something: my Warp 4 doesn't have a templates folder. Warp
> 3 has a templates folder. Are you really running Warp 4? If so where
> is/did you get a templates folder?
> 
> I'm having no such difficulty with my Warp 4 FP9 system.

	You are if you don't have a templates folder :).

	WARP v4 certainly does have a templates folder.  It is normally placed
in the "OS/2 System" folder off your desktop.  If you have problems
finding it, let me know (a simple REXX script should be able to locate
it for you).

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: martin.brown@pandora.be                           23-Nov-99 12:01:17
  To: All                                               23-Nov-99 10:20:09
Subj: Re: OS2 FixPak's Install all or just latest?

From: Martin Brown <martin.brown@pandora.be>

Lorne Sunley wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:14:49, Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>
> wrote:
>
> > My SERVICE.LOG indicates the attempt to archive fails. I
> > tried several times. Since the installer apparently provides no option
> > to not archive, I can get nowhere. There is about 170 Mb free on the F:\
> > boot drive where archives existed before I deleted them. The installer
> > failed to indicate inadequate free space. CHKDSK reports no errors. I
> > found no help on the CD. What do I do next?
>
> First clue, you deleted the archives....
>
> The error is occuring because some other files
> established by the fixpack say that there ARE archives.
>
> The readme file tells you what files to delete to get around
> this problem.

I recently had a problem with resume/backout after a very rare uncorrected
read error which occurred in CSF 1.41 FSERVICE copying the crucial file
"PRINT01.SY_"  ;-)
It panicked with  CSF-0239 CSF Fatal error .. unable to copy
OS2.2\PRINT01.SY_ :(

Subsequent attempts to go forward and resume were frustrated by an hour long
delay "preparing" the system for update followed by a SYS-3175. Attempts to
backout failed similarly.
What does it do during "preparing" the system - go off and meditate ?

The only way I was able to recover was to delete the archive files and all
evidence that CSF had ever been run. Then rerunning the fixpack worked fine.

I can't help feeling that being unable to copy a measly printer driver should
not be an immediate fatal error. I guess it retried the read before giving up
the ghost. But it was particularly irritating that CSF was unable to pick up
the thread afterwards. Has anyone else seen this problem ?

Regards,
Martin Brown

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Nov-99 19:51:13
  To: All                                               23-Nov-99 16:44:02
Subj: Re: print preview  from Netscape 4.61 not working - need new Picview?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 05:57:24, Stephen Reimer <sr0939@csc.albany.edu> 
wrote:

> Is this netscape somehow screwing up the printout so that the driver
> or PM makes weird files?
>  

Netscape is using something that PICVIEW doesn't understand. That 
fault is with PICVIEW, which desperately needs an update. 
Unfortunately, I don't think there is much hope of that happening.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               23-Nov-99 13:26:21
  To: All                                               23-Nov-99 16:44:03
Subj: Re: Anyone have documentation for DIRCMD?

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Mike Ruskai wrote:
> Wouldn't starting the install program from a session in which the
> environment variable has been negated also work, without a reboot?  Surely
> all subsequent programs are started as child programs, with the same
> environment, no?

	This will probably work, but as the problem was only just discovered, I
haven't had a chance to test and verify which environment the DIR
command is picking up (it's being run in REXX code being spawned from C
code - most of it written by other people, so there's a lot of tracing
to be done :).

	As the C code is using a simple DosStartSession call to launch the REXX
script in question, and it is being run as a child process with a copy
of the parents environment, it should be okay.  But until I test and
verify that I'm not going to advise it to the few people it's going to
affect.

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Nov-99 19:51:15
  To: All                                               23-Nov-99 16:44:03
Subj: Re: trouble with file ops in GUI

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:40:14, Gord Schindler <gords@idirect.com> 
wrote:

> I'm running W4 with the latest fixpacks and driver FP.  I've had this
> problem since the initial install.  When I try and drag files from 1
> folder to another they appear to create a shadow instead.  In fact the
> file does not show as a shadow in the "file" page..it shows as an
> original and still living in the old folder.  As well, chances are the
> system will hang shortly after.  Also, none of the templates in the
> template folder can be used.  They appear to drag off but immediately
> hang up the system.  An error will be posted in the system error log
> just before it hangs.  I found the same problem in OS2 works but after
> removing and re-installing Works that was solved.  An example of the
> posted error is:
> 11/21/99  06:53:36 pm        62         2  PMWP.DLL  A WorkPlace Shell
> Exception has occurred. Exception Type: c0000005  Exception location:
> 00000000
> 
> It is always the same error.
> File ops can be performed ok from the command prompt.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Gord
> 

I think you are talking about three completely unrelated things.

1) The drag drop operation can be a little confusing, until you 
understand what the default operations are, and how to recognize what 
is really happening. 

Warp4 has a setting. Right mouse click on a blank spot on the 
desktop-> Properties-> Desktop, and change the default drop operation 
to your preferred setting (Create shadow is default on warp4, Move is 
the way that warp3 worked). You may want to experiment with this.

In addition, Warp4 seems to override this, depending on what you are 
doing. I don't want to try describing all of the variations, but this 
is what to watch for:

When you use drag/drop watch the icon just before you drop it. If it 
is a normal file, and you are dragging within a (physical) hard drive,
you will see a solid (normal) icon. This indicates that you are doing 
a MOVE operation. The "exception", is if you are dragging an 
executable file (*.EXE, *.COM, or *.CMD), it will try to create a 
program object out of the information. This still shows up as a solid 
(normal) icon, the difference is that the original icon does not go 
away. (More later...)

OK, while you are watching the icon, just before you drop it. If the 
icon is greyed out (cross hatched, or dim), the operation will be a 
COPY. This, usually happens when you go from one physical disk to 
another (hard disks may not entirely follow this rule).

Now, if you modify the operation, by pressing Ctrl, Shift, or Alt, 
while you drop the icon, you can control which operation will actually
happen. Just watch the icon, to get an idea about what will happen 
when you drop the icon. You will also see lines between the original, 
and the new, which indicates what will happen when you drop the icon.

You can also use the menu items to override the default operations.

2) I have seen that PMWP.DLL error. It shows up in the Problem 
determination tools-> System error log (two entries, for every boot, 
if I remember properly). In fact, a single user should not even be 
using that log, or the programs that put stuff in there. That is a 
tool, that is designed for a large network operation, and I think it 
has a problem if it is not connected to a network, with a real server.
What you should do, is go into your CONFIG.SYS, and REM the line:
RUN=D:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE
This will prevent the system monitoring tools from loading, which 
stops the output to the log file (and gives you back some memory that 
it was using). Don't forget to erase, or just clear, the log, so it 
doesn't take up so much room on your hard disk. These monitoring tools
are absolutely useless on a single system, and have very limited (if 
any) use in a small peer network.

If the error is showing up in POPUPLOG.OS2, that is something 
different.

3) The templates thing is something that I have seen. The problem was 
caused by one of the fix packs (perhaps 6, or 7), at least in my case.
The fix was to remove the Templates settings from one of the INI 
files. Unfortunately, I cannot find the note that tells me what to do.
From memory (you may want to see if you can find this in DEJANEWS, to 
verify what I remember),  get an INI editor (I use mINI -> look for 
mINI101.ZIP, in the usual places). Open the USER INI file (OS2.INI), 
find the "PM_Workplace:Templates" entry, and delete that entry. (Be 
sure you have a GOOD backup before you try this).  Save the changes, 
and shut down immediately. When you reboot, the Templates entries will
be rebuilt, and all should be well again.

One thing you may want to do, before you try the INI thing, is to get 
Henk Kelder's WPTOOLS package from:
http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html
then read the instructions for CHECKINI. That program may fix your 
templates thing (and MANY other things), without getting desperate 
enough to trust my memory <g>. It is a GOOD idea to use CHECKINI on a 
regular basis. It will help to prevent your OS2.INI file from growing 
out of control (once it gets too large -> something over 2 meg for 
warp4, and about 1 meg for warp3 <-, odd things start to happen), and 
CHECKINI will help to keep your system running at optimum performance.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: bts@iaehv.nl                                      22-Nov-99 00:23:00
  To: All                                               23-Nov-99 21:19:15
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: "Martin Bartelds" <bts@iaehv.nl>

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:43:52 GMT, Thomas schweikle wrote:

:>We had same problems with NS4.61 - Navigator has some problems with 
:>his internal memory management. Occuring most likely loading graphics.
:>
:>A huge mem cache makes the problem only occure later. Disk cache isn't 
:>a mater.
:>
For me the problem occurs, when the memory cache is big enough to
hold all and the disk cache not. Some small pages only seem to
require a 64 Kb cache, bigger ones a 1 or 2 Mb.

:>I hope IBM fixing this.

Me to
:>
:>--
:>Thomas

/Martin.



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From: wwilly@one.net                                    24-Nov-99 00:52:11
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 03:57:03
Subj: Re: Environment Inheritance 

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <81eifq$64i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Matt Hickman <matthickman@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <81ddd3$aq1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>   Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
wrote:
> > CALL would run the called program or script with
the
> > temporarily modified SET DIRCMD, inheriting the
> > environment from the caller.  START would not.
        <<<snip>>>

RTFM YOU JACKASS!!!  A simple test would show how it
works.  First, write a simple FRED1.CMD as follows:

/* */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil',
                                       'SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs
SET "FRED=Hello"
START "FRED2"
EXIT

And here's FRED2.CMD:

/* */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil',
                                       'SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs
SET "FRED"
EXIT

You really can't put much stock in what this guy
says.........

> Hmm, I thought

Yes.  Well.  At least ONE of us is doing that.......

        <<<snip>>>

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: chdove@home.com                                   24-Nov-99 02:33:06
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 03:57:03
Subj: Re: Loaddskf problem

From: chdove@home.com (Clive Dove)

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:17:02, Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au> 
wrote:

> Using loaddskf to do disk images for driver pack 1, I keep getting Data
> Error Checksum does not compare etc both on Warp4 and Win95 dos.
> Downloading the files on the work desktop Win95 dos I have no problem
> with forming the disk images. I have had the same problem before. Are
> these .?dk files corrupt or is this some other problem?
> 
> Charles Borg

Quaere:
Did you download the files as binary files or ascii files?
The files should be downloaded as binary.  Unfortunately,  the 
standard ftp client defaults to ascii.
This may not be your problem, but I thought it might be worth 
mentioning.

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From: cborg@camtech.net.au                              24-Nov-99 13:08:00
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 03:57:03
Subj: Re: Loaddskf problem

From: Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au>

This could very well be my problem. Is there any way one can remedy
this?
Charles Borg

Britton Robbins wrote:
> 
>> 
> I've seen this problem when downloading through the proxy server at my
> work.  It is inserting extra bytes throughout the file.
> You can observe this by taking a known good  *.*dk file and comparing the
> same file downloaded on the system
> that is giving you the problem.  If the proxy issue is the source of the
> problem, you will see the 'bad' file is a little bit larger.
> 
> Britton Robbins

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From: gords@idirect.com                                 24-Nov-99 02:40:08
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 03:57:03
Subj: Re: trouble with file ops in GUI

From: Gord Schindler <gords@idirect.com>

Doug Bissett wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:40:14, Gord Schindler <gords@idirect.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm running W4 with the latest fixpacks and driver FP.  I've had this
> > problem since the initial install.  When I try and drag files from 1
> > folder to another they appear to create a shadow instead.
> > Thanks
> > Gord
> >
>
> I think you are talking about three completely unrelated things.
>
> 1) The drag drop operation can be a little confusing, until you
> understand what the default operations are, and how to recognize what
> is really happening.
>
> Warp4 has a setting. Right mouse click on a blank spot on the
> desktop-> Properties-> Desktop, and change the default drop operation
> to your preferred setting (Create shadow is default on warp4, Move is
> the way that warp3 worked). You may want to experiment with this.
>

Changed a long time ago.  The key here is that the thing still thinks that
it is creating a shadow when I am holding down the control key but in fact
it is creating nothing except an icon which seems to be an original with the
same settings as the original.  If I go to a command prompt and do a dir
there is nothing in that folder.  The system will hang almost right away.
At this point as well, none of the templates work.  System hangs right away.

>
>
>
> You can also use the menu items to override the default operations.
>

Menu items don't work any more.  If I do a "create another " for example,
chances are good the system will freeze.

>
> 2) I have seen that PMWP.DLL error. It shows up in the Problem
> determination tools-> System error log (two entries, for every boot,
> if I remember properly). In fact, a single user should not even be
> using that log, or the programs that put stuff in there. That is a
> tool, that is designed for a large network operation, and I think it
> has a problem if it is not connected to a network, with a real server.
> What you should do, is go into your CONFIG.SYS, and REM the line:
> RUN=D:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE
> This will prevent the system monitoring tools from loading, which
> stops the output to the log file (and gives you back some memory that
> it was using). Don't forget to erase, or just clear, the log, so it
> doesn't take up so much room on your hard disk. These monitoring tools
> are absolutely useless on a single system, and have very limited (if
> any) use in a small peer network.
>
> If the error is showing up in POPUPLOG.OS2, that is something
> different.
>
> 3) The templates thing is something that I have seen. The problem was
> caused by one of the fix packs (perhaps 6, or 7), at least in my case.
> The fix was to remove the Templates settings from one of the INI
> files. Unfortunately, I cannot find the note that tells me what to do.
> From memory (you may want to see if you can find this in DEJANEWS, to
>

I'll check this out.

> One thing you may want to do, before you try the INI thing, is to get
> Henk Kelder's WPTOOLS package from:
> http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html
> then read the instructions for CHECKINI. That program may fix your
> templates thing (and MANY other things), without getting desperate
> enough to trust my memory <g>. It is a GOOD idea to use CHECKINI on a
> regular basis. It will help to prevent your OS2.INI file from growing
> out of control (once it gets too large -> something over 2 meg for
> warp4, and about 1 meg for warp3 <-, odd things start to happen), and
> CHECKINI will help to keep your system running at optimum performance.
>
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************




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From: bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net                        23-Nov-99 20:01:09
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 03:57:04
Subj: Re: OS/2 Supersite/BMT Micro FixPak 12 CD experience

From: Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>

Lorne Sunley wrote:

> Felix Miata wrote:
 
> > My SERVICE.LOG indicates the attempt to archive fails. I
> > tried several times. Since the installer apparently provides no option
> > to not archive, I can get nowhere. There is about 170 Mb free on the F:\
> > boot drive where archives existed before I deleted them. The installer
> > failed to indicate inadequate free space. CHKDSK reports no errors. I
> > found no help on the CD. What do I do next?
 
> First clue, you deleted the archives....

I wasn't too clear. I deleted the archives only after I got the cannot
open message a few times.
 
> The error is occuring because some other files
> established by the fixpack say that there ARE archives.
 
> The readme file tells you what files to delete to get around
> this problem.

Since the idea of the CD was simplification, I figured everything I
needed to know ought to not be nested too deep on the CD. The readme in
the root is 1,491 bytes, fails to suggest any place to look for help in
the event of failure, and fails to suggest in which directory the actual
fixpak or possible readme files exist.

While waiting for a response from Usenet or the CD creators, I poked
around the installer. The installer has a "change product list"
selection available after it has searched for products to service.
Hiding in there is an option to "commit" previous products. I've never
previously found a way to commit, even though on several occasions I did
try. I committed everything it offered up. Then installation ran without
a hitch. I'm now at 9.036, 24 hours later. Everything looks dandy so
far. Neither the Netscapes, nor anything else, has crashed since. The
WPS even seems faster. Is this a mere illusion?

Thanks for the reply!
-- 
He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers
harm.                Proverbs 13:20 NKJV

 Team OS/2

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net

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From: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygon...               24-Nov-99 02:13:19
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 03:57:04
Subj: Re: Environment Inheritance 

Message sender: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net

From: "Mike Ruskai" <retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net>

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 00:52:23 GMT, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

>In article <81eifq$64i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>  Matt Hickman <matthickman@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> In article <81ddd3$aq1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>>   Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
>wrote:
>> > CALL would run the called program or script with
>the
>> > temporarily modified SET DIRCMD, inheriting the
>> > environment from the caller.  START would not.
>        <<<snip>>>
>
>RTFM YOU JACKASS!!!  A simple test would show how it
>works.  First, write a simple FRED1.CMD as follows:
>
>/* */
>call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil',
>                                       'SysLoadFuncs'
>call SysLoadFuncs
>SET "FRED=Hello"
>START "FRED2"
>EXIT
>
>And here's FRED2.CMD:
>
>/* */
>call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil',
>                                       'SysLoadFuncs'
>call SysLoadFuncs
>SET "FRED"
>EXIT
>
>You really can't put much stock in what this guy
>says.........
>
>> Hmm, I thought
>
>Yes.  Well.  At least ONE of us is doing that.......

Now that you've demonstrated for the whole world how unpleasant you can
be, it's appropriate to point out that you're also completely incorrect. 
Running your own poorly-formed test scripts (what's the point of loading
REXXUTIL?) would have been sufficient to find this out for yourself,
thereby avoiding what must be a rather humiliating situation for you
(given your obvious psychology).

But you didn't take the small amount of time necessary to prevent making a
fool of yourself.  Which is appropriate, since you deserve nothing less
for your behavior.

For those reading who don't want to take the time to run the above REXX
scripts, the output in the second window is "FRED=Hello", whereas the
output required to vindicate Wild Willy here would be "FRED=(null)" (or
'Not in environment "fred"', should you be running 4OS2).

Now a choice is before you:

1)  Flame me in response for pointing out your error, and your bad
behavior.

2)  Ignore this message completely, and pretend it was never posted.

3)  Show some integrity by apologizing to Matt Hickman, and the error of
both your facts and your methods.


--
 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    24-Nov-99 08:43:23
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 05:20:20
Subj: Re: Loaddskf problem

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <383B5D99.C7E97C9A@camtech.net.au>,
  Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au> wrote:
> This could very well be my problem. Is there any
way one can remedy
> this?
> Charles Borg
>
> Britton Robbins wrote:
> > I've seen this problem when downloading through
the proxy server at my
> > work.  It is inserting extra bytes throughout the
file.
        <<<snip>>>

Use command line FTP instead of the browser.  I think
this avoids the proxy server.  Proxy servers
intercept only web browsing requests, is that not
true?  I don't really know; I'm asking.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 24-Nov-99 09:21:16
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 10:35:07
Subj: Re: OS2 FixPak's Install all or just latest?

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <383A740E.59BDA1EA@pandora.be>, Martin Brown <martin.brown@pandora.be>
writes:
>
>Lorne Sunley wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:14:49, Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > My SERVICE.LOG indicates the attempt to archive fails. I
>> > tried several times. Since the installer apparently provides no option
>> > to not archive, I can get nowhere. There is about 170 Mb free on the F:\
>> > boot drive where archives existed before I deleted them. The installer
>> > failed to indicate inadequate free space. CHKDSK reports no errors. I
>> > found no help on the CD. What do I do next?
>>
>> First clue, you deleted the archives....
>>
>> The error is occuring because some other files
>> established by the fixpack say that there ARE archives.
>>
>> The readme file tells you what files to delete to get around
>> this problem.
>
>I recently had a problem with resume/backout after a very rare uncorrected
>read error which occurred in CSF 1.41 FSERVICE copying the crucial file
>"PRINT01.SY_"  ;-)
>It panicked with  CSF-0239 CSF Fatal error .. unable to copy
>OS2.2\PRINT01.SY_ :(
>
>Subsequent attempts to go forward and resume were frustrated by an hour long
>delay "preparing" the system for update followed by a SYS-3175. Attempts to
>backout failed similarly.
>What does it do during "preparing" the system - go off and meditate ?
>
>The only way I was able to recover was to delete the archive files and all
>evidence that CSF had ever been run. Then rerunning the fixpack worked fine.
>
>I can't help feeling that being unable to copy a measly printer driver should
>not be an immediate fatal error. I guess it retried the read before giving up
>the ghost. But it was particularly irritating that CSF was unable to pick up
>the thread afterwards. Has anyone else seen this problem ?
>
>Regards,
>Martin Brown
>

Do you have a writeable C: drive ? see the thread on "backing out
from fixpack 12" where Mr Spalten was discovering the readme 
about a c: drive and indeed, the whole 're-run the csf operation' has 
gone slightly bonkers. You may have been bitten by the history-
file-in-the-wrong-place newly discovered bug.

--
hrad ngravvd

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From: yyyc186@flashcom.net                              24-Nov-99 05:52:20
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 10:35:07
Subj: Re: OS2 FixPak's Install all or just latest?

From: yyyc186@flashcom.net

In <383A740E.59BDA1EA@pandora.be>, on 11/23/99 
   at 12:01 PM, Martin Brown <martin.brown@pandora.be> said:


>Lorne Sunley wrote:

>> On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:14:49, Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > My SERVICE.LOG indicates the attempt to archive fails. I
>> > tried several times. Since the installer apparently provides no option
>> > to not archive, I can get nowhere. There is about 170 Mb free on the F:\
>> > boot drive where archives existed before I deleted them. The installer
>> > failed to indicate inadequate free space. CHKDSK reports no errors. I
>> > found no help on the CD. What do I do next?
>>
>> First clue, you deleted the archives....
>>
>> The error is occuring because some other files
>> established by the fixpack say that there ARE archives.
>>
>> The readme file tells you what files to delete to get around
>> this problem.

>I recently had a problem with resume/backout after a very rare
>uncorrected read error which occurred in CSF 1.41 FSERVICE copying the
>crucial file "PRINT01.SY_"  ;-)
>It panicked with  CSF-0239 CSF Fatal error .. unable to copy
>OS2.2\PRINT01.SY_ :(

>Subsequent attempts to go forward and resume were frustrated by an hour
>long delay "preparing" the system for update followed by a SYS-3175.
>Attempts to backout failed similarly.
>What does it do during "preparing" the system - go off and meditate ?

>The only way I was able to recover was to delete the archive files and
>all evidence that CSF had ever been run. Then rerunning the fixpack
>worked fine.

>I can't help feeling that being unable to copy a measly printer driver
>should not be an immediate fatal error. I guess it retried the read
>before giving up the ghost. But it was particularly irritating that CSF
>was unable to pick up the thread afterwards. Has anyone else seen this
>problem ?

I got hit with it once too.  Took the same work around.

Roland

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From: cborg@camtech.net.au                              24-Nov-99 22:23:26
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 10:35:07
Subj: Re: Loaddskf problem

From: Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au>

Thanks for your reply. This seems to be the problem. I use the Shift key
and L mouse button to download these files useing netscape. What would
be the safe way to download .?dk files from a proxy server?

Charles Borg

Clive Dove wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:17:02, Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au>
> wrote:
> > > these .?dk files corrupt or is this some other problem?
> >
> > Charles Borg
> 
> Quaere:
> Did you download the files as binary files or ascii files?
> The files should be downloaded as binary.  Unfortunately,  the
> standard ftp client defaults to ascii.
> This may not be your problem, but I thought it might be worth
> mentioning.

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From: Markus.Quandt@gmx.net                             24-Nov-99 12:57:09
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 10:35:07
Subj: help: AHA2940U2W and  IBM DDRS-39130D won't copy files larger > 400kB

From: Markus Quandt <Markus.Quandt@gmx.net>

Hi all,

for some months I've been running a PIII-450 on an Asus P2B-F
motherboard without larger problems under Warp 4, FP9.  Recently, I
noticed that *reading* from the harddisk (an 8 GB IBM DDRS-3910D SCSI
wide/LVD drive, hanging off an Adaptec AHA2940U2W card) will almost
always fail for *some* files larger than, say, 400-800 kB. One example
is my Lotus Organizer file, another the Java 'classes.zip'. Writing
seems to be ok. Amazingly, many apps that do load these files seem to be
unaffected (eg. Organizer can *work* with its file, Java also seems to
work!), but a simply copy operation on the command line (or zipping the
said files, or similar stuff) will fail with a SYS0031. But most other,
much larger files will be copied ok?!?! The target of the copy operation
doesn't seem to matter.

Running chkdsk at boot time doesn't help at all (the affected partition
is HPFS formatted, of course). 

The SCSI driver I'm using is the one available from the IBM device
driver site, dated 04/08/1999. Adaptec only has an older version (6/98)
on their ftp site, which I didn't try yet.

I am not sure if this problem existed all the time or if it emerged only
recently, but can't really believe the first scenario. The only thing I
changed in the system configuration during the plausible time frame was
the video driver - I'm using an IBM supplied S3 Savage driver 6.10.17,
which I updated from 6.10.15 some weeks ago.

Other system components: 
Elsa Something graphics card, with the said S3 Savage (Pro?) chip
3COM Etherlink XL PCI
Plextor 40x SCSI CD-ROM

running TCPIP, NETBIOS, Netware protocols

Are there any insights you could offer? This is really scary!!!

Thanks, MQ

-- 
__________________________________________________________________
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  Institut f. Angewandte Sozialforschung der Universitaet zu Koeln
  Greinstr. 2     50939 Koeln
  Tel. +49-221/470-4232                      Fax. +49-221/470-5169
  Find my PGP public key and other information here:
http://www.uni-koeln.de/wiso-fak/ifas/html/personal/homepage/quandt-markus/inde
x.html

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From: martin.brown@pandora.be                           24-Nov-99 13:25:28
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 14:28:15
Subj: Re: OS2 FixPak's Install all or just latest?

From: Martin Brown <martin.brown@pandora.be>

hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

> In <383A740E.59BDA1EA@pandora.be>, Martin Brown <martin.brown@pandora.be>
writes:

> >I recently had a problem with resume/backout after a very rare uncorrected
> >read error which occurred in CSF 1.41 FSERVICE copying the crucial file
> >"PRINT01.SY_"  ;-)
> >It panicked with  CSF-0239 CSF Fatal error .. unable to copy
> >OS2.2\PRINT01.SY_ :(
> >
> >Subsequent attempts to go forward and resume were frustrated by an hour
long
> >delay "preparing" the system for update followed by a SYS-3175. Attempts to
> >backout failed similarly.
> >What does it do during "preparing" the system - go off and meditate ?

The question still stands. Why does it take so incredibly long to "prepare"
...

> >The only way I was able to recover was to delete the archive files and all
> >evidence that CSF had ever been run. Then rerunning the fixpack worked
fine.

> Do you have a writeable C: drive ? see the thread on "backing out
> from fixpack 12" where Mr Spalten was discovering the readme
> about a c: drive and indeed, the whole 're-run the csf operation' has
> gone slightly bonkers.

Yes drives C: D: and E: were all writable and had plenty of space.
I didn't think CSF would let you start if there wasn't space on drive C.

> You may have been bitten by the history-
> file-in-the-wrong-place newly discovered bug.

Possibly. I destroyed the possible evidence to make it work.
I didn't notice any files obviously out of place.

Regards,
Martin Brown

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From: chdove@home.com                                   24-Nov-99 13:43:09
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 14:28:15
Subj: Re: Loaddskf problem

From: chdove@home.com (Clive Dove)

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:53:52, Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au> 
wrote:

> Thanks for your reply. This seems to be the problem. I use the Shift key
> and L mouse button to download these files useing netscape. What would
> be the safe way to download .?dk files from a proxy server?
> 
> Charles Borg
> 
> Clive Dove wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:17:02, Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au>
> > wrote:
> > > > these .?dk files corrupt or is this some other problem?
> > >
> > > Charles Borg
> > 
> > Quaere:
> > Did you download the files as binary files or ascii files?
> > The files should be downloaded as binary.  Unfortunately,  the
> > standard ftp client defaults to ascii.
> > This may not be your problem, but I thought it might be worth
> > mentioning.

I always use FTP.EXE for binary downloads.
There are more elegant ftp clients, but this will do the job.  

Remember to set the transfer mode to "binary" before downloading the 
file.  The program defaults to "ascii" mode.

I simply do not trust the Netscape ftp utility.

I have set up ftp objects for the update and fix sites that I 
regularly access, with the transfer mode defaulted to "binary". 

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     24-Nov-99 18:51:14
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 16:50:17
Subj: Re: trouble with file ops in GUI

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:40:17, Gord Schindler <gords@idirect.com> 
wrote:

> Changed a long time ago.  The key here is that the thing still thinks that
> it is creating a shadow when I am holding down the control key but in fact
> it is creating nothing except an icon which seems to be an original with the
> same settings as the original.  If I go to a command prompt and do a dir
> there is nothing in that folder.  The system will hang almost right away.
> At this point as well, none of the templates work.  System hangs right away.
>  
> 

OK, If that is the case, and CHECKINI doesn't help, you may need to go
through the exercise of reinstalling OS/2. Obviously, something has 
been corrupted, and it will, probably, be easier to reinstall, rather 
than trying to figure out exactly what is wrong. 

Good luck...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: jdparker@erols.com                                24-Nov-99 14:24:20
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 16:50:17
Subj: Re: trouble with file ops in GUI

From: Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>

Brad BARCLAY wrote:

> Jim Parker wrote:
> > Please clarify something: my Warp 4 doesn't have a templates folder. Warp
> > 3 has a templates folder. Are you really running Warp 4? If so where
> > is/did you get a templates folder?
> >
> > I'm having no such difficulty with my Warp 4 FP9 system.
>
>         You are if you don't have a templates folder :).
>
>         WARP v4 certainly does have a templates folder.  It is normally
placed
> in the "OS/2 System" folder off your desktop.  If you have problems
> finding it, let me know (a simple REXX script should be able to locate
> it for you).
>
> Brad BARCLAY
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
> E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com            Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

Well, duh!! ("Duh" is a two syllable word if pronounced correctly) Yep, its
there.  How did I miss it?

So having opened it, I see some things in there that confuse me:

1. There are 4 different templates: OS!2_COM.CMD, OS!2_CO1.CMD, OS!2_CO2.CMD
and
OS!2_CO3.CMD and then a fifth called OS/2 Command File.CMD. They all appear
very
similar. What is the difference between these?

2. There is a Data File:1 template but no just plain Data File. Is this
normal?

Thanks
Jim Parker

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               24-Nov-99 17:04:28
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 19:59:02
Subj: Re: trouble with file ops in GUI

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Jim Parker wrote:

> Well, duh!! ("Duh" is a two syllable word if pronounced correctly) Yep, its
> there.  How did I miss it?
> 
> So having opened it, I see some things in there that confuse me:
> 
> 1. There are 4 different templates: OS!2_COM.CMD, OS!2_CO1.CMD, OS!2_CO2.CMD 
and
> OS!2_CO3.CMD and then a fifth called OS/2 Command File.CMD. They all appear
very
> similar. What is the difference between these?
> 
> 2. There is a Data File:1 template but no just plain Data File. Is this
normal?

	While neither of these situations is optimal (ie: it's not supposed to
be that way in either case :), it probably won't hurt anything either. 
If you want to rename the "Data File:1" to "Data File" you should be
okay.  Also, you can delete the additional "OS!2_C0?.CMD" files if you
want to - simply open their properties notebook, deselect the "template"
checkbox in the "Icon" tab panel, and then drag and drop them into the
shredder.

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: gert.agerholm@mailandnews.com                     24-Nov-99 23:13:04
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 19:59:02
Subj: TRAP 0006

From: "Gert Agerholm" <gert.agerholm@mailandnews.com>

Does anybody know what TRAP 0006 mean? 

Gert Agerholm
gert.agerholm@mailandnews.com


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From: ralf.schiwasinske@gmx.de                          24-Nov-99 23:24:04
  To: All                                               24-Nov-99 21:17:06
Subj: Re: TRAP 0006

From: ralf.schiwasinske@gmx.de (Ralf Schiwasinske)

"Gert Agerholm" <gert.agerholm@mailandnews.com> wrote:

> Does anybody know what TRAP 0006 mean? 

Maybe these instructions from Ken may help:

From: Ken Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Trap 0007 - What and Why
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 06:09:06 -0500
Organization: IBM P/390 Software Development
Message-ID: <36DFBB51.2F9CC67C@us.ibm.com>

"You can find out the meaning of any trap by using the OS/2 Help
command using the following trick
 
  - Add the decimal value 1930 to the decimal equivalent of the
    trap number;  e.g. Trap00D becomes 1943, TRAP007 becomes 1937
..
What to actually do to resolve the problem is left as an exercise
to the user <g>.
 
Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)"
 
HTH
Ralf 
-- 




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From: wpooh*NOSPAM*@c3.freemail.hu                      24-Nov-99 13:40:24
  To: All                                               25-Nov-99 03:28:22
Subj: Odin a5 doesn't work

From: wpooh*NOSPAM*@c3.freemail.hu

Hi!
I installed Odin alpha 5 on my warp 4 nofp.
When I try to start a win32 program a message box appears which is
titled 'Odin' saying that the kernel32.dll couldn't be loaded/found.
I installed the win32k.sys device.
The problem is not related to the way I try to start win32 progs
neither 'pe win32exe' nor 'win32exe' typed work.
Any idea?

Regards
Janos



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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                24-Nov-99 23:10:14
  To: All                                               25-Nov-99 03:28:22
Subj: NS/2 error factory - HELP!

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

I just had a look at my popup.log file.  It seems that Netscape sometimes
gets VERY surly about shutting down.  I just got the following errors on
the following, all at one shot, when shutting it down - plus one unnamed
one.  It seems this has happened every now and then - perhaps a specific
site?

Any clues as to what's going on?

DOSCALL1.DLL 0003:0000c381

JPEG3246.DLL 0001:000186e7

LIBREG32.DLL 0001:0000521f

PR3246.DLL 0001:00013740

XPPF3246.DLL 0001:00028793

JIL3246.DLL 0001:0000000f

LIBLDAP.DLL 0001:000175d7

NSCNV30.DLL 0001:00008933

PMBIDI.DLL 0001:00000d4c

BDCALL32.DLL 0001:00000000

PMDDEML.DLL 0001:000027ec

MMPLUGS.DLL 0001:000000a0

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    25-Nov-99 06:10:11
  To: All                                               25-Nov-99 03:28:22
Subj: Re: Environment Inheritance 

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.floxeq0.pminews@netnews.worldn
et.att.net>,
  "Mike Ruskai"
<retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 00:52:23 GMT, Bill "Wild Willy"
Kredentser wrote:
> >In article <81eifq$64i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> >  Matt Hickman <matthickman@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> In article <81ddd3$aq1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> >>   Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
> >wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> 1)  Flame me in response for pointing out your
error, and your bad
> behavior.
>
> 2)  Ignore this message completely, and pretend it
was never posted.
>
> 3)  Show some integrity by apologizing to Matt
Hickman, and the error of
> both your facts and your methods.

4) Explain my lame attempt at humor.

If you study the thread more carefully, you'll
realize I was telling myself to RTFM & calling myself
a jackass for saying things off the top of my head
when I was obviously wrong & could easily have
avoided my mistake with a little research & thought.

My 2 REXX scripts DO prove I was wrong & do
demonstrate how it works.  If you open a command
window & issue SET FRED it responds with NULL
because, of course, FRED is not a standard system
variable.  But by setting FRED in the first REXX
script, then issuing a START for a second script
which tests the variable, you'll see that the second
script indeed does inherit the setting from the
first, even though it's STARTed & not CALLed.  Which
was precisely the point which I described incorrectly
in an earlier post & then corrected in my later post.

5) Care to respond further?  Care to break down &
EXECUTE the 2 scripts I posted (which I actually did
before posting them)?

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    25-Nov-99 08:50:21
  To: All                                               25-Nov-99 05:15:15
Subj: TESTCFG.SYS bug with Cyrix - ever fixed?

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

I've just been bitten by the bug with the TESTCFG.SYS driver, which 
crashes when loaded on a Cyrix CPU. Having traced it to this driver, I
now remember a discussion about this a while ago although my searches 
on Deja have failed to come up with much relevant.

Was the bug ever fixed by IBM? In my case it failed on WSeB GA, so I 
doubt it.

I've produced a patch for TESTCFG.SYS if anyone is interested. Email 
me for now; I'll put it on my web page as soon as I have a moment.

(the patch is safe to leave in except on IBM 486SLC CPUs; it's a long 
shot that anyone is using any of these but OTOH I have 3 of them!)
-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygon...               25-Nov-99 05:48:11
  To: All                                               25-Nov-99 10:37:25
Subj: Re: Environment Inheritance 

Message sender: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net

From: "Mike Ruskai" <retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net>

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:10:22 GMT, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

>In article
><gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.floxeq0.pminews@netnews.worldn
>et.att.net>,
>  "Mike Ruskai"
><retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 00:52:23 GMT, Bill "Wild Willy"
>Kredentser wrote:
>> >In article <81eifq$64i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>> >  Matt Hickman <matthickman@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> >> In article <81ddd3$aq1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>> >>   Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
>> >wrote:
>        <<<snip>>>
>> 1)  Flame me in response for pointing out your
>error, and your bad
>> behavior.
>>
>> 2)  Ignore this message completely, and pretend it
>was never posted.
>>
>> 3)  Show some integrity by apologizing to Matt
>Hickman, and the error of
>> both your facts and your methods.
>
>4) Explain my lame attempt at humor.
>
>If you study the thread more carefully, you'll
>realize I was telling myself to RTFM & calling myself
>a jackass for saying things off the top of my head
>when I was obviously wrong & could easily have
>avoided my mistake with a little research & thought.
>
>My 2 REXX scripts DO prove I was wrong & do
>demonstrate how it works.  If you open a command
>window & issue SET FRED it responds with NULL
>because, of course, FRED is not a standard system
>variable.  But by setting FRED in the first REXX
>script, then issuing a START for a second script
>which tests the variable, you'll see that the second
>script indeed does inherit the setting from the
>first, even though it's STARTed & not CALLed.  Which
>was precisely the point which I described incorrectly
>in an earlier post & then corrected in my later post.

I just revisited your post, and without your explanation above, it doesn't
look anything like a self-abasement.  With the explanation, it's entirely
ambivalent.

So, your attempt was well-intentioned, but not very well executed.

Nevertheless, since you've made your intentions clear now, my comments
obviously don't apply, and you have my apology.

>5) Care to respond further?  Care to break down &
>EXECUTE the 2 scripts I posted (which I actually did
>before posting them)?

If you had read *my* post more carefully, you'd realize that I did in fact
run your scripts, and I was not advocating the incorrect line of thought
(as your post appeared to be doing).


--
 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.


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From: gerd.thier@arcormail.de                           25-Nov-99 16:36:19
  To: All                                               25-Nov-99 14:28:23
Subj: Re: TRAP 0006

From: Gerd Thier <gerd.thier@arcormail.de>

Gert

Trap 6 - Invalid Opcode Exception

Source: The OS/2 Debugging Handbook SG24-4640-00 as inf file

-- 
MfG / Regards

Gerd  

This system has been running for 0d 0h 29m 42s 406ms (en).


Gert Agerholm schrieb:
> 
> Does anybody know what TRAP 0006 mean?
> 
> Gert Agerholm
> gert.agerholm@mailandnews.com

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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             25-Nov-99 08:23:12
  To: All                                               25-Nov-99 19:46:19
Subj: Trap 0008 with Java 1.1.8

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

I have once again received a trap 0008 when running the
Sun JAVA banner advertisment at www.telegraph.co.uk.

This is the displayed info

Trap 0008
EAX=0022e000  EBX=9bba7bc0  ECX=00000028  EDX=9bc4735c
ESI=9bba7c24  EDI=ff38064c  EBP=00005814  FLG=00012082
CS:EIP=0168:fff45856  SS:ESP=0030:00005360
DS=0160
ES=0160
FS=0000
GS=0000
The system has detected an internal processing error
at ##0168:fff4832e - 000e:c32e

The trap occurred as the banner started to scroll.

Using W4 FP12, Java 1.1.8 + latest fixes, and
Communicator 4.61 GA.

Anyone have any ideas?
-- 
Dave

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               25-Nov-99 15:57:11
  To: All                                               25-Nov-99 19:46:19
Subj: Re: Trap 0008 with Java 1.1.8

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Dave Parsons wrote:
> 
> I have once again received a trap 0008 when running the
> Sun JAVA banner advertisment at www.telegraph.co.uk.
> 
> This is the displayed info
> 
> Trap 0008

[snip]

> Anyone have any ideas?

	Trap 8's are notoriously hard to diagnose, as they only occur when a
TRAP condition exists during the processing of another TRAP condition.

	I don't think there is sufficient information in the trap info you've
provided to point to a definitive problem point - but perhaps someone
who knows more about reading TRAP info will be able to provide you with
some answers.

	I sat here hitting the site you mention on a near-constant reload and
even after about 50 reloads I didn't find the advertisement you're
refering to, so unfortunately I can't confirm your problem here. :P

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    25-Nov-99 23:40:16
  To: All                                               25-Nov-99 21:46:01
Subj: Re: TESTCFG.SYS bug with Cyrix - ever fixed?

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:50:42, rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:

> I've just been bitten by the bug with the TESTCFG.SYS driver, which 
> crashes when loaded on a Cyrix CPU. Having traced it to this driver, I
> now remember a discussion about this a while ago although my searches 
> on Deja have failed to come up with much relevant.
> 
> Was the bug ever fixed by IBM? In my case it failed on WSeB GA, so I 
> doubt it.
> 
> I've produced a patch for TESTCFG.SYS if anyone is interested. Email 
> me for now; I'll put it on my web page as soon as I have a moment.

OK, it's there now:

   http://www.tavi.co.uk/os2pages/install.html

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             26-Nov-99 08:20:08
  To: All                                               26-Nov-99 10:42:22
Subj: Re: Trap 0008 with Java 1.1.8

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 20:57:22, Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> wrote:

> Dave Parsons wrote:
> > 
> > I have once again received a trap 0008 when running the
> > Sun JAVA banner advertisment at www.telegraph.co.uk.
> > 
> > This is the displayed info
> > 
> > Trap 0008
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > Anyone have any ideas?
> 
> 	Trap 8's are notoriously hard to diagnose, as they only occur when a
> TRAP condition exists during the processing of another TRAP condition.
> 
> 	I don't think there is sufficient information in the trap info you've
> provided to point to a definitive problem point - but perhaps someone
> who knows more about reading TRAP info will be able to provide you with
> some answers.
> 
> 	I sat here hitting the site you mention on a near-constant reload and
> even after about 50 reloads I didn't find the advertisement you're
> refering to, so unfortunately I can't confirm your problem here. :P
> 
> Brad BARCLAY
> 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
> E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

Yes, I appreciate that there was not much information, but that is all
there was. One moment the applet was loading, started to scroll and
the next I was looking at the 'The system is stopped' screen.

The banners appear to be allocated randomly and so it is difficult to
repeat.
It has happened to me 3 times now in the last month or so.
It started to happen after I updated to FP 12 and JAVA 1.1.8. and
Comm/2 4.61 GA but I don't know whether any of these are the problem
since I had never seen the Sun ad. banner before either. 

The first time was again a 'The system is stopped screen' and the next
just froze the system completely.
I posted about this at the time and included the POPUPLOG information
from the frozen occurrence. The 'stopped' occurrences did not leave
anything in the log.

I can repost that article if it would help. It had entries from NETSCAPE
and DOSCALL1.

-- 
Dave

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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         25-Nov-99 16:31:24
  To: All                                               26-Nov-99 10:42:22
Subj: Workplace bugs part 3

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

I found some bugs not fixed in fixpack 12. 

Seamless windows has some problems that hangs the WorkPlace Shell. I noticed
that os/2 was very stable, until I had to use some old windows programs. I
got weird problems using files in Wordperfect 6.1 and Word 6.0. GPF's at not
existing addresses: strange characters in the addresses. These problems can
be duplicated on my machine. In full screen session the errors do not popup.
So it is definitely no file error of application error.
Moreover, only when I use seamless windows programs the WPS gets a typical
error: closing a random folder window is not possible. Minimizing works
correct.  Restarting the WPS immediately will sometimes fix the problem.
After some more WPS actions the WPS will freeze. You have to Ctl-Alt-Del to
get a working situation.

Dragging and dropping of a file attachment from pmmail 2.1 to a folder which
is opened as a shadow will halt the WPS (not responding and no reset
possible). The length of the filename has some influence. Spaces in the name
will also make the bug hit more often. I can not find the definite route in
the behaviour of pmmail.
 
*.exe, *.cmd, *.com and *.bat file which are dragged to the workplace  do
create an program object even if the desktop setting is move. In a mixed drag
and drop operation they are moved correctly.

Playing sound with mwave drivers with for instance the entertainment pack
for os/2, warpamp and a bunch other software will generate a 100% cpu
utilization one or two seconds after the program is closed. Starting a second
program with sound enabled will hang the WPS.  Playing  sound and
interrupting it with a sound of pmmail, will make Pmmail use 100% cpu at
exit. Pmmail becomes unkillable.

Any word on mwave drivers that correct this serious problem?

Machine: Thinkpad 760 ED



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From: anandk@in.ibm.com                                 26-Nov-99 16:57:24
  To: All                                               26-Nov-99 10:42:22
Subj: Re: What does APAR stand for anyway?

From: Anand Krishnamoorthy <anandk@in.ibm.com>

PMR stands for Problem Management Record and is the one which contains details
about the s/w and h/w and also the actions taken towards solving it.

APAR (Authorised Program Analysis Report) is one which is created after a bug
is
identified.

Anand K
OS/2 Base Support


>

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From: anandk@in.ibm.com                                 26-Nov-99 17:16:03
  To: All                                               26-Nov-99 10:42:22
Subj: Re: Okay guru's: Here's one for you

From: Anand Krishnamoorthy <anandk@in.ibm.com>


Mat Serwas wrote:
I am thinking I may have to reload the OS because I

> upgraded to FP12 from a scratch 'un-updated' [save
> a few drivers and simple fixes] OS [the 1996 3 floppies
> and the CDROM disk].

If you have upgraded to FP12 from scratch, you might be missing all the DD
fixes
from GA to FP10 as after FP10 all the DDs were packed into a separate FP. You
may
want to install the DD fixpack too.....

Anand K.
OS/2 Base Support Team, IBM.


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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 26-Nov-99 12:15:18
  To: All                                               26-Nov-99 10:42:22
Subj: Re: Okay guru's: Here's one for you

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

Anand Krishnamoorthy <anandk@in.ibm.com> wrote:

>Mat Serwas wrote:
>I am thinking I may have to reload the OS because I
>
>> upgraded to FP12 from a scratch 'un-updated' [save
>> a few drivers and simple fixes] OS [the 1996 3 floppies
>> and the CDROM disk].
>
>If you have upgraded to FP12 from scratch, you might be missing all the DD
fixes
>from GA to FP10 as after FP10 all the DDs were packed into a separate FP. You 
may
>want to install the DD fixpack too.....

I have not tried this with Warp 4, but be aware that rminfo.dll seems
to be missing from Warp 3 FP42 (on WS4) and does not appear in DDpak1.

As FP42 and FP12 are supposed to be roughly equivalent, it is probably
missing from FP12 as well.  After a search, I found that this file
does exist in FP40 (equiv to FP10).

Looks like the seperation of drivers (and stuff) from the mainstream
fixpacks to the ddpak still has some settling in to do.

Cheers,
Craig

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From: cborg@camtech.net.au                              27-Nov-99 01:24:10
  To: All                                               26-Nov-99 14:27:20
Subj: desktop problem

From: Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au>

I have a new problem. When the desktop starts to load I now get a
"Sys0039 System Error Desktop A not ready" I have to put a floppy in the
drive and press Ok and the desktop keeps on loading. I have recently
flashed my BIOS in preparation of upgrading to a large Hard Drive.
However the problem did not appear straight away.I have a robosave
desktop but I will be happier if I can get rid of this problem on the
current desktop version. Any help will be appreciated.

Charles Borg

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From: fheitka@ibm.net                                   26-Nov-99 15:16:29
  To: All                                               26-Nov-99 14:27:21
Subj: Re: communicator 4.61 bug

From: fheitka@ibm.net (F. Heitkamp)

In message <3837EC1B.263CA010@dgraph.com> - Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>
writes:
>
>"F. Heitkamp" wrote:
>> 
>> I've tried a couple ftp sites with the new communicator 4.61
>> 990915 and the text doesn't show up next to the folders and at
>> the top (banner).  The sites were ftp.xfree86.org and
>> sourceware.cygnus.org.  Am I missing something or is this a bug.
>> The old beta I was using worked fine.
>> 
>> Fred
>
>This is related to the fixed font problem. Change your Fixed Font
>setting to something other than the default
>(Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts)
>-- 
>
Thanks! That worked.  A related question: Are there any sources of
fonts for OS/2?  Preferably free.

Fred




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From: wwilly@one.net                                    26-Nov-99 19:18:18
  To: All                                               26-Nov-99 19:59:05
Subj: Re: desktop problem

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <383EAD2C.D0FBD334@camtech.net.au>,
  Charles Borg <cborg@camtech.net.au> wrote:
> I have a new problem. When the desktop starts to
load I now get a
> "Sys0039 System Error Desktop A not ready" I have
to put a floppy in the
> drive and press Ok
        <<<snip>>>

I assume you meant "Diskette A," not "Desktop A."
Anyway, my wild-ass guess is to add the following
line to your CONFIG.SYS:

AUTOFAIL=YES

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      26-Nov-99 19:26:15
  To: All                                               26-Nov-99 19:59:06
Subj: Fonts 

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <383ea46b_4@news1.prserv.net>, fheitka@ibm.net (F. Heitkamp) writes:

>Thanks! That worked.  A related question: Are there any sources of
>fonts for OS/2?  Preferably free.

Any Adobe type 1 or TrueType fonts will work with OS/2.  There 
are dozens, if not hundreds of sites on the internet that offer 
such fonts for free.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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