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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              06-Nov-99 02:04:16
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: alan@min.net.notspam

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-MOkz9S42IsOK@tcpserver>, on 11/05/99 
   at 01:27 AM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said:
>> 
>> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I keep
>> seeing different recommendations.

>The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS
>and applies to OS/2 applications.

>The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT
>and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications.

This makes sense!  Thanks.  Let's hope it solves my problems.

Where does winsock.dll belong, in \tcpip\dos\etc?  I know there should be
only one one copy, and it should be the one the came with Warp.


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From: fgearhart@voyager.net                             06-Nov-99 01:42:24
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: OS/2 networking questions..

From: fgearhart@voyager.net

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 05:09:51, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) 
wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 04:55:32, fgearhart@voyager.net wrote:
> 
> > My office is running Win9x across a Novell network, I believe, and at 
> > the moment thats about all I know about it.  My laptop is setup so 
> > that if I boot to Windows it connects to the network.  Can anyone 
> > point me to a FAQ that will tell me how I can get OS/2 to hook up to 
> > the network?  I understand computers in general fairly well, but 
> > _networking_ per se loses me, so I'm interested in something fairly 
> > rudimentary.  (Tab A goes in Slot B, type this:  xxx, etc..)  What I 
> > need to have installed in OS/2, software, etc..  As usual the folks 
> > who setup our network know ixnay about OS/2 so I'm SOL there.  
> > 
> > I'd much rather be using OS/2 than windows, so _any_ help is greatly 
> > appreciated!
> 
> Obtain the Novell network client for OS/2 from:
> 
> URL http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
> 
> Install OS/2 
> 
> Install the Novell Network Client.
> 
> This client works with Novell servers up to 4.12.
> 
> Lorne Sunley
> 

Thats it?  I don't have to go rooting about in seldom used ini files 
typing arcane commands and switchs??

Sweet!

But seriously, thanks a lot, I really appreciate the advice!

Fritz

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    05-Nov-99 19:13:16
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 03:33:25
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

John Poltorak wrote:
> Can someone explain the point of having %ETC% using different directories
> under OS/2 and DOS? I'd much rather have a single hosts file which is used
> from all environments.

It's quite likely because ETC doesn't always just contain a couple of
tables of data, especially on *nix. Also, if the DOS support is less
capable than the OS/2 support, some of the files you don't change may
need to be different. Finally, if you have dual boot you may actually
want a separate DOS ETC directory for TCP/IP under DOS (the OS/2 one
might be on HPFS). I'll agree it's a pain!

Graham.

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        06-Nov-99 11:04:03
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 10:27:24
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <38207D7D.CB8EB890@dundee.ac.uk>, Charles Christacopoulos
<c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk> writes:
>"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
>> 
>> I have to get a new tape drive.  
>Check http://www.cristie.com/
>I am looking to purchase one of their drives (admittedly a large
>autoloader) and they may be willing to bundle their backup software for
>os/2.  Well if you ask them nicely they will as they seem to bundle the
>Win95 crap with them.

I've been asking Cristie if they will be providing OS/2 drivers for the
Onstream
30/50 GB tape drives, and they hope to have something available in a month
or two. These drives seem too good to be true, pricewise, - no idea on
reliability though...

>-- 
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>Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
>Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
>http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
>Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
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From: myself@pbn.dp.ua                                  06-Nov-99 17:34:09
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 14:36:00
Subj: !PCTCP 1.3.1 for OS/2

From: Ivan Klimenko <myself@pbn.dp.ua>

Hi !

	I'm _must_ use PCTCP 1.3.1 for OS/2 by FTP Software (in some reason).
	How i can tell this stack use PAP/CHAP autorization ?
	After dial and get `CONNECT ...` string COMSRPT.EXE somthing wait.

	Run: comscrpt alkar dial

--- cut pctcp.ini ---
[pctcp comscrpt alkar]
    dialup = e:\pctcp\etc\dialup.scr
    hangup = e:\pctcp\etc\hangup.scr
    serial = alkar

[pctcp serial alkar]
    baud = 38400
    port = 2
    irq = 3
--- cut pctcp.ini ---

--- cut e:\pctcp\etc\dialup.scr ---
send ATZ\r
pause 1
send ATDt34-00-33\r
pause 1
--- cut e:\pctcp\etc\dialup.scr ---



-- 

Ivan Klimenko   [Team OS/2]
e-mail:         myself@pbn.dp.ua
net-mail:       2:464/69.11@fidonet, 2:464/27.26@fidonet
ccmail:         Ivan Klimenko at Privat-Nikopol

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From: swsnyder@home.com                                 06-Nov-99 17:46:26
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "Steve Snyder" <swsnyder@home.com>

On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:37:50 GMT, Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)
wrote:
>"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
[snip]
>> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
>> experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
>> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>>
>> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
>> newsgroup.
>
>I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get
>about 38MB/min
>with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I
>let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full
>restore.

I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec.  As 
noted above, this drive is fast.  I'm very happy with it.


***** Steve Snyder *****



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From: operagost@e-mail.com                              06-Nov-99 17:37:25
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" <operagost@e-mail.com>

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"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:

> I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
> tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
> often.  (Long history of failures here).
>
> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
> experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
> newsgroup.

I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get
about 38MB/min
with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I
let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full
restore.

Backmaster 2 should support the drive, but I dumped them a while ago because
the program
was so slow. Novaback is nice because they include Windows and OS/2 versions
in the same box.

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From: jkross@TIRED_OF_SPAM@oxford.net                   06-Nov-99 21:09:28
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 16:43:23
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: jkross@TIRED_OF_SPAM@oxford.net (John Ross)

In message <38238caf$6$nynaurff$mr2ice@news> - alan@min.net.notspam writes:
:>
:>In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-MOkz9S42IsOK@tcpserver>, on 11/05/99 
:>   at 01:27 AM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said:
:>>> 
:>>> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I
keep
:>>> seeing different recommendations.
:>
:>>The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS
:>>and applies to OS/2 applications.
:>
:>>The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT
:>>and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications.

In my system

SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC is the same in the autoexec.bat and config.sys.

but note: if you have SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC in one 
		  and SET ETC= C:\MPTN\ETC in the other it will not work.<G> Took me the
longest time to see the error.

This is on a Warp4 system.


>This makes sense!  Thanks.  Let's hope it solves my problems.
:>
:>Where does winsock.dll belong, in \tcpip\dos\etc?  I know there should be
:>only one one copy, and it should be the one the came with Warp.

Anywhere in a defined path in your autoexec.bat  but C:\TCPIP\dos\bin

is common place to find it. 
:>
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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              06-Nov-99 21:53:15
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Steve Snyder wrote:
> 
> 
> I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec.
> 
    You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came
out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program.

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        06-Nov-99 22:47:19
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:24
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <38239CDC.BA3A27C@linkline.com>, "Graham C. Norris"
<spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com> writes:
>John Poltorak wrote:
>> Can someone explain the point of having %ETC% using different directories
>> under OS/2 and DOS? I'd much rather have a single hosts file which is used
>> from all environments.
>
>It's quite likely because ETC doesn't always just contain a couple of
>tables of data, especially on *nix. 

Yes, on Unix systems there lots of file stored in ETC. But it doesn't matter
how many files are there, as long as the ones required by particular
applications are there.

>Also, if the DOS support is less
>capable than the OS/2 support, some of the files you don't change may
>need to be different.

Which files might need to be different?

> Finally, if you have dual boot you may actually
>want a separate DOS ETC directory for TCP/IP under DOS (the OS/2 one
>might be on HPFS).

If you have dual boot, the OS/2 one will not be on HPFS.

> I'll agree it's a pain!
>
>Graham.

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From: notlucius1@acmppi.com                             06-Nov-99 22:14:03
  To: All                                               06-Nov-99 20:02:25
Subj: Re: Surevey: Linux VS. Windows NT VS. NetWare

From: notlucius1@acmppi.com (Lucius Chiaraviglio)

	Without answering the questions themselves, I will point out the ways
that the following poll is flawed:

"Soren" <soren@webresumes.cx> wrote:
>Hi, My name is Soren Winslow. I am a student at Heald College. In my basic
>networking class I have been asked to conduct the following Poll. If you are
>a networking guru, geek or professional, would you please answer the
>following survey. Thank You, Soren. soren@webresumes.cx
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>Which Network Operating System do you prefer?
>A- Linux
>B- Windows NT
>C- NetWare

	You should at least provide a "D- Other" choice here.  Several other
network-capable operating systems are in common use, notably FreeBSD, Solaris,
SCO Unix, and MacOS (and in the future, separately from standard MacOS, also
MacOS X, which is already in at least limited release for use as a server
operating system); this is not an exhaustive list.  Also, you should
distinguish between Windows 95/98 and Windows NT.  VMS, Ultrix (now Tru64
Unix), and various IBM mainframe operating systems used to be extremely
common (and maybe some of them still are).

>2- Rank the reasons (1-5) why you chose the OS you picked in question #1.
>Compatibility
>Cost
>Security
>Stability
>The logo

	You should at least provide an "Other" choice here, and in addition
you should really add performance, licensing, and availability of source code
as explicit options.  The latter two are very important to many users of
Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD.

>3- How did you learn about the OS you picked in question #1.
>A- School
>B- Self-Study
>C- Work

	Considering the rest of this poll, I am surprised you didn't include
categories "D- Advertising" and "E- Provided with the computer".

>4- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is most stable.
>Linux
>Windows NT
>NetWare
>
>5- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is easiest to install.
>Linux
>Windows NT
>NetWare
>
>6- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe has the best security features.
> Linux
>Windows NT
>NetWare
>
>7- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is easiest to use.
>Linux
>Windows NT
>NetWare

	See my comment above about Question 1.  For the last 3(!) of these, a
lot of people would choose MacOS and have some basis for making that choice,
even if not totally correct.

>8- What is your occupation?
>
>9- What is your age?

	These two questions demonstrate why multiple-choice questions are
hard to make non-flawed without consuming an inordinate amount of space
(although age, being linear, could reasonably be divided into bins).

>10- What is your education?
>A- High School
>B- Some College
>C- College Graduate

	As someone else pointed out, you should also provide other choices.
A handful of people who would have reason to take this poll might not have
finished high school, while others might have gotten post-college degrees.

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From: swsnyder@home.com                                 07-Nov-99 02:07:16
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "Steve Snyder" <swsnyder@home.com>

On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:53:30 GMT, James Moe wrote:

>Steve Snyder wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec.
>> 
>    You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came
>out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program.

Maybe the STT8000N is compatible with some drive that is officially 
supported.  In any case, Seagate Backup Exec v3.0 (file dates 
are 10/31/96) *does* work with that tape drive.


***** Steve Snyder *****



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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    06-Nov-99 18:20:02
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

John Poltorak wrote:
> >Also, if the DOS support is less
> >capable than the OS/2 support, some of the files you don't change may
> >need to be different.
> 
> Which files might need to be different?

Well, I don't know, I didn't write this stuff!

> > Finally, if you have dual boot you may actually
> >want a separate DOS ETC directory for TCP/IP under DOS (the OS/2 one
> >might be on HPFS).
> 
> If you have dual boot, the OS/2 one will not be on HPFS.

You can stick your ETC directory where-ever you like, you can install
TCP/IP on HPFS in a dual boot environment.

Graham.

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From: gnilsen@smartt.com                                07-Nov-99 04:19:03
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 03:28:17
Subj: Re: Connecting to a network - NIC-drivers needed!

From: gnilsen@smartt.com (Gordon Nilsen)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:03:32, 
no.spam.please.fwegener@bornundpartner.com (FW) wrote:

> Ok, so I have to use an OS/2-client.
> 
> First off, let me say that I'm not really an OS/2-User. I need it to
> run a Workflow-Buildtime by IBM, I don't usually work with it,
> administrate it or use any applications under it. I don't really know
> too much about it.
> 
> So, I'd like to connect to an NT-Network. I'm Admin for that, so I can
> pretty much do what I want to - as long as I know what I have to do. 
> 
> I run OS/2 Warp 4 on an old PC (AMD K5 150 / 32MB RAM / 3COM 900 COMBO
> - NIC)
> 
> First off, I don't have drivers for the NIC, which is a 3COM 900
> Combo. The 3COM-homepage wasn't really very useful, so if anyone has a
> driver for that card and could send it to me or tell me where to get
> one I'd be most thankful.
> 
> Once that obstacle is taken I'll propably call for help again, because
> last time I tried this on a PC I had NIC-drivers for, it didn't work
> either, and I'm sure I'll run into the same problems again!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Frank

Hi Frank 

Here is the URL to the latest driver files
http://www.support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/index.htm

Use the third pulldown menu and choose your card.
There will be three files.  You will only need the third disk.  
Extraxt the files, and go to the NDIS\OS2 directory for the three 
files.

The next Problem can probablally be solved by going to

http://www.mit.edu/activities/os2/peer/WARPPEER.HTM

I hope this will help

Gordon

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From: jcs16587@aol.com                                  07-Nov-99 17:33:11
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: FS: Misc Network Equip

From: jcs16587@aol.com (JCS16587)

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Cabletron Multiport Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 Repeater Model MR-9000C qty. of 1 -
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1 10 Base T, 1 AUI and 1 10Base-2 Ports.  1 Printer Port, 1 Console Port, 2
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From: simon.stone@firex.freeserve.co.uk                 07-Nov-99 18:46:03
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: OS/2 File Server

From: "Simon Stone" <simon.stone@firex.freeserve.co.uk>

I've had a copy of OS/2 Warp (Version 3) sitting in a draw for a while and
when I have come to use it I've run into a few problems, well actually a
rather large one....

One of my spare PC's is a dedicated file server..

It's a 486 DX4-100 with 64MB RAM, 1 540MB IDE hard disk, 2 2.0GB SCSI Drives
and 1 25GB IDE Drive, CD-ROM and Novell Anthem NE2000

I've managed to install OS/2 ok, but I can't find anyway of making it a
fileserver !!!!

Someone please help me.....
--- PLEASE REPLY VAI E-Mail !!! ---

Simon

       Trust me with your life.... But not with your money or wife

                     He Who Dares....Wins !

          E-mail : simon.stone@firex.freeserve.co.uk


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           07-Nov-99 19:11:07
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 15:15:22
Subj: Re: OS/2 File Server

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:46:06, "Simon Stone" 
<simon.stone@firex.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> I've had a copy of OS/2 Warp (Version 3) sitting in a draw for a while and
> when I have come to use it I've run into a few problems, well actually a
> rather large one....
> 
> One of my spare PC's is a dedicated file server..
> 
> It's a 486 DX4-100 with 64MB RAM, 1 540MB IDE hard disk, 2 2.0GB SCSI Drives
> and 1 25GB IDE Drive, CD-ROM and Novell Anthem NE2000
> 
> I've managed to install OS/2 ok, but I can't find anyway of making it a
> fileserver !!!!
> 
> Someone please help me.....

E-Mailed and posted

Warp 3, unless it is Warp 3 "Connect" does not include
the "File and Print Services Client" that is required to 
implement file sharing.

If you want to set up a dedicated file server for a small
LAN you will have to obtain Warp 3 connect, or Warp
Server 4 Entry Level (which is based on the Warp 3 Kernel)
or Warp Server for e-Business or Warp 4 (which also
has the "File and Print Services Client".

Warp 3 (non-connect) does not contain the MPTS
code for networking. This code implements the
NETBIOS and TCP/IP protocols that are required
for LAN  operations.

Lorne Sunley


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From: leslie@clio.rice.edu                              07-Nov-99 20:07:07
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:01
Subj: Re: Surevey: Linux VS. Windows NT VS. NetWare

From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie)

Lucius Chiaraviglio (notlucius1@acmppi.com) wrote:

: VMS, Ultrix (now Tru64 Unix), and various IBM mainframe operating 
: systems used to be extremely common (and maybe some of them still are).

Correction: Ultrix is NOT Tru64 Unix, which was formerly OSF/1.

Ultrix ran on MIPS-based and VAX-based systems, Tru64, formerly OSF/1,
only runs on ALPHAs. Plans to port Tru64 to the Merced processor have
been dropped.

VMS is still very much alive in the process control/scada world,
in spite of the push to Windows NT by the PHBs. It's also used
by organizations who need REAL 24 by 7 availibiliy, such as banks:

 http://www.success-stories.digital.com/css/cgi-bin/cssextusr/s=display/i=30
 VMS Clusters' Trial By Fire

Guess what systems run Intel's production lines ? VAX/VMS.

The Sabre airline reservation system is still using IBM MVS systems; 
look at:

 http://www.sabre.com/


--Jerry Leslie     (my opinions are strictly my own)

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From: mmellin@home.com                                  07-Nov-99 22:12:17
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Warp's MPTS Config with NT4 Peer

From: mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin)

I'm a bit confused between the adapters/slots/logical/physical
and the necessary protocols for connecting a gateway/local lan.

The "network" (HA!!), is a home built spiders nest of wires
as follows:

OS/2 Peer (FP-8412) Gateway:
----------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------
Set up with the hostname from my ISP, and the
computer name as "NAME-1" in domain "WARPNET",
with MPTS (FP-8620) configured for:

2 x NICs (RTL8139, and SMC1211TX) with;

**  - SMC1211TX, 10BaseT from cable modem.
    0 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
    0 - IBM TCP/IP

**  - RTL8139, 100BaseT to hub.
    2 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS over TCP/IP
    1 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
    1 - IBM TCP/IP

Questions:
----------
Do I have the protocols installed correctly ?
Do I really need NetBios on the SMC NIC ?
Do I need NetBios on the RTL NIC, for NT,
   perhaps just for other Peer OS2 machines ?
Is the RTL NIC's logical adapter numbers correct
   and in the right order ?
Can/should there be a domain name for a peer
   gateway ?
Should the computer name be differerent from the
   local machine name assigned by my ISP ?


TCP/IP 4.1, FP-1001 is configured as:
---------------------------------------------------
Lan-0:      - Static IP/subnet from cable modem ISP
                 *working*
Lan-1:      - My local IP/subnet
             (192.168.1.1 & 255.255.255.0)
                 *not working*
LoopBack:   - 127.0.0.0 with no subnet
Routing:    - "Default", ISP's router, metric=1
            - IP Forwarding is on
                 I have no idea what the "net" & "host"
                 or "default routes" are...
Host Names: - Host & local domain from/for ISP
            - Names servers from/for ISP

Questions:
----------
None really - other than the difference between the "default",
"net" and "host" are (the on-line help did precious little to
explain this)


The other half is NT4 (and I suspect is the problem)...

NT4 Client (SP5) peer:
----------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------
Configured as "NAME-2" of "WARPNET", with:
1 x NICs (RTL8139) with;

**  - RTL8139, 100BaseT from hub.
    NetBEUI Protocol
    TCP/IP Protocol

    Computer Name is "NAME-2"
    Workgroup is "WARPNET"
    Static IP is 192.168.1.2
    Subnet is    255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway is 192.168.1.1
    *all* of the DNS info is as assigned by
       my ISP.
    IP forwarding is on.

Questions:
----------
Should the workgroup be "WARPNET" ?
Should the Default Gateway be my gateway, and
   not the ISP's gateway ?
Should IP forwarding be on for a peer machine ?
Should all of the DNS entries on a peer be set
   to/for the provider ?

Why am I setting up a network in my home ??
Where can I find a BIG cold beer


Thanks in advance for *any* help with this lunacy !!
Mark Mellin

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    07-Nov-99 17:03:29
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: OS/2 File Server

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

OS/2 Warp Version 3 is NOT LAN ready. The only connectivity included
in that package is Dial-Up TCP/IP. You need at least Warp Connect
(which is the network ready version of Warp 3) or Warp 4.



In article <804hhc$nhs$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Simon Stone" <simon.stone@firex.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>I've had a copy of OS/2 Warp (Version 3) sitting in a draw for a while and
>when I have come to use it I've run into a few problems, well actually a
>rather large one....
>
>One of my spare PC's is a dedicated file server..
>
>It's a 486 DX4-100 with 64MB RAM, 1 540MB IDE hard disk, 2 2.0GB SCSI Drives
>and 1 25GB IDE Drive, CD-ROM and Novell Anthem NE2000
>
>I've managed to install OS/2 ok, but I can't find anyway of making it a
>fileserver !!!!
>
>Someone please help me.....
>--- PLEASE REPLY VAI E-Mail !!! ---
>
>Simon
>
>       Trust me with your life.... But not with your money or wife
>
>                     He Who Dares....Wins !
>
>          E-mail : simon.stone@firex.freeserve.co.uk
>
>

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From: t_am@gmx.de                                       07-Nov-99 21:52:08
  To: All                                               07-Nov-99 20:07:02
Subj: Re: PROFILE.BAT for Windows NT Client

From: t_am@gmx.de (Timo Maier)

Hi Charles!

>I have problems with some of out implementations of NT where drives have
>to be mapped manually at every reboot but I have no idea how to do a
>batch file for the job.
you can put a "net use driveletter: alias" in the profile.bat/.cmd or assign a
drive by d&d an alias over a user/group.

TAM
-- 
OS/2 Warp4, Ducati 750SS '92
http://www.privat.toplink.de/homepages/thunder
Remove "_" for eMail reply

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Nov-99 01:28:21
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: Re: Warp's MPTS Config with NT4 Peer

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:12:34, mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) wrote:

> I'm a bit confused between the adapters/slots/logical/physical
> and the necessary protocols for connecting a gateway/local lan.
> 
> The "network" (HA!!), is a home built spiders nest of wires
> as follows:
> 
> OS/2 Peer (FP-8412) Gateway:
> ----------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------
> Set up with the hostname from my ISP, and the
> computer name as "NAME-1" in domain "WARPNET",
> with MPTS (FP-8620) configured for:
> 
> 2 x NICs (RTL8139, and SMC1211TX) with;
> 
> **  - SMC1211TX, 10BaseT from cable modem.
>     0 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
>     0 - IBM TCP/IP
> 
> **  - RTL8139, 100BaseT to hub.
>     2 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS over TCP/IP
>     1 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
>     1 - IBM TCP/IP
> 
> Questions:
> ----------
> Do I have the protocols installed correctly ?

Sort of

> Do I really need NetBios on the SMC NIC ?

No, this protocol is not used for anything when it 
is bound to this NIC or at least it shouldn't.

> Do I need NetBios on the RTL NIC, for NT,

Yes, if you have NT using NETBIOS/NETBEUI rather
than NETBIOS/TCPIP (which is NT's default)

>    perhaps just for other Peer OS2 machines ?

The other Peer OS/2 machines will use it if they
are configured with OS/2 NETBIOS 

> Is the RTL NIC's logical adapter numbers correct
>    and in the right order ?

They will change if you remove the NETBIOS from
the SMC NIC

> Can/should there be a domain name for a peer
>    gateway ?

There are actually two "domain" names involved
one is for the TCP/IP internet access which is
your ISP's domain name. The other "WARPNET"
is for the file sharing NETBIOS domain.

The two "domains" are totally separate.

> Should the computer name be differerent from the
>    local machine name assigned by my ISP ?
> 

I don't think it makes any difference if you are
using static IP assignments. DHCP (dynamic IP)
would be different.

> 
> TCP/IP 4.1, FP-1001 is configured as:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Lan-0:      - Static IP/subnet from cable modem ISP
>                  *working*
> Lan-1:      - My local IP/subnet
>              (192.168.1.1 & 255.255.255.0)
>                  *not working*
> LoopBack:   - 127.0.0.0 with no subnet
> Routing:    - "Default", ISP's router, metric=1
>             - IP Forwarding is on
>                  I have no idea what the "net" & "host"
>                  or "default routes" are...
> Host Names: - Host & local domain from/for ISP
>             - Names servers from/for ISP
> 
> Questions:
> ----------
> None really - other than the difference between the "default",
> "net" and "host" are (the on-line help did precious little to
> explain this)

The "default" route is used to pass along packets for
IP addresses that are not otherwise named in one of
the other "route" statments.

This should be set to your ISP's "gateway" or "router"
address.

The "net" route is used to pass along packets
addressed to the sub-net named in the route statement

The "net " route for your 192.168.1 sub-net should be
192.168.1.1 This is usually set up automatically. Otherwise
your TCPIP setup notebook should contain one. This
will route the 192.168.1.X packets to the correct NIC.

> 
> 
> The other half is NT4 (and I suspect is the problem)...
> 
> NT4 Client (SP5) peer:
> ----------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------
> Configured as "NAME-2" of "WARPNET", with:
> 1 x NICs (RTL8139) with;
> 
> **  - RTL8139, 100BaseT from hub.
>     NetBEUI Protocol
>     TCP/IP Protocol
> 
>     Computer Name is "NAME-2"
>     Workgroup is "WARPNET"
>     Static IP is 192.168.1.2
>     Subnet is    255.255.255.0
>     Default Gateway is 192.168.1.1
>     *all* of the DNS info is as assigned by
>        my ISP.
>     IP forwarding is on.
> 
> Questions:
> ----------
> Should the workgroup be "WARPNET" ?

Yes, any machines on the local LAN should
all have the same netbios "DOMAIN" name. This is
the one used for the "file sharing" workgroup.

> Should the Default Gateway be my gateway, and
>    not the ISP's gateway ?

Yes, it should be your "gateway" 192.168.1.1

> Should IP forwarding be on for a peer machine ?

No

> Should all of the DNS entries on a peer be set
>    to/for the provider ?
> 

Yes

> Why am I setting up a network in my home ??

It's a good way to develop a craving for TWO cold beers

> Where can I find a BIG cold beer
> 

In the 'fridge second shelf down, on the right.....

> 
> Thanks in advance for *any* help with this lunacy !!

On the NT machine what protocols do you
have "installed", "turned on" or whatever they
call it in the "Network" icon? You need TCP/IP
which you must have or you could not set up
the parameters.

For "file and print sharing" you do not need the
NETBIOS over TCP/IP you could just
use NETBEUI which is faster on a small LAN
and is less likely to lead to inadvertant sharing
of stuff that may be visible to the entire internet.

Questions to you....

Can you PING the NT machines IP address
from the gateway machine?

Can you PING the gateway machine from the
NT machine?

Do you have some sort of NAT gateway software
installed like Injoys Gateway http://www.fx.dk ?

You will need this to translate the 192.168.X.X addresses
to allow the other machines to access the internet.
WARNING - only install it after you have the base
network working between the local machines.

The 192.168.X.X addresses will not be passed along
as they are "private" network IP addresses and the
internet routers will drop them.

Lorne Sunley


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From: wrarick@aol.com                                   08-Nov-99 01:44:04
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:16
Subj: OS/2 Warp Ver 3 Networking Question

From: wrarick@aol.com (WRarick)

I currently own an IBM ps/2 Model 70 computer running OS/2 Warp Version 3
(Blue
Spine).  I would like to incorporate it into my home network (Win98 Workgroup)
if possible.  This is just a hobby machine so I am not looking for anything
overly elaborate.  Is there a Microsoft client for OS/2 out there? Will warp
connect contain what I need?  I am very familiar with Windows networking but
have no Idea when it comes to OS/2. Any help wouild be appreciated.


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Nov-99 04:24:08
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp Ver 3 Networking Question

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:44:09, wrarick@aol.com (WRarick) wrote:

> I currently own an IBM ps/2 Model 70 computer running OS/2 Warp Version 3
(Blue
> Spine).  I would like to incorporate it into my home network (Win98
Workgroup)
> if possible.  This is just a hobby machine so I am not looking for anything
> overly elaborate.  Is there a Microsoft client for OS/2 out there? Will warp
> connect contain what I need?  I am very familiar with Windows networking but
> have no Idea when it comes to OS/2. Any help wouild be appreciated.
> 

Warp Connect will have what you need.

Just make sure you apply the fixpacks and other goodies
so your system will be Y2K compliant.

Lorne Sunley

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              08-Nov-99 05:37:11
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: !PCTCP 1.3.1 for OS/2

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Ivan Klimenko wrote:
> 
> Hi !
> 
>         I'm _must_ use PCTCP 1.3.1 for OS/2 by FTP Software (in some
reason).
>         How i can tell this stack use PAP/CHAP autorization ?
>         After dial and get `CONNECT ...` string COMSRPT.EXE somthing wait.
> 
    PCTCP for os/2 is an old product. I do not know if it is possible to
have it do authentication. Can you direct PCTCP to use a different
dialer? Or maybe you could simply start another dialer like DOIP or
IN-joy and have PCTCP believe it is connected to the Internet?

-- 

sma at rtd dot com
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From: mgreene@exis.net                                  08-Nov-99 00:50:25
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: IMAPD??????

From: "Michael K Greene" <mgreene@exis.net>

I have been looking for a IMAP server (imapd) for Warp. I did find:

http://www.washington.edu/imap/

I downloaded the file, which included most OSs (even Amiga). It did have some
OS/2 files, but on reading the docs it says:

			       OS2 BUILD NOTES
     The OS2 port is incomplete.  There are no plans to continue work on it.

Is there no other source for IMAPD on OS/2?

Michael K Greene <mgreene@exis.net>     |      OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311



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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Nov-99 06:10:10
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: IMAPD??????

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 05:50:51, "Michael K Greene" <mgreene@exis.net> 
wrote:

> I have been looking for a IMAP server (imapd) for Warp. I did find:
> 
> http://www.washington.edu/imap/
> 
> I downloaded the file, which included most OSs (even Amiga). It did have
some
> OS/2 files, but on reading the docs it says:
> 
> 			       OS2 BUILD NOTES
>      The OS2 port is incomplete.  There are no plans to continue work on it.
> 
> Is there no other source for IMAPD on OS/2?
> 

The Lotus Domino Mail server has an IMAP server
capability. You have to pay for it though.

You can download a trial version from http://www.lotus.com

Lorne Sunley

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From: mgreene@exis.net                                  08-Nov-99 01:45:22
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: IMAPD??????

From: "Michael K Greene" <mgreene@exis.net>

On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 06:10:21 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:

Lorne,

How did I know that you would reply? I tried the LOTUS path. 

As a side bar, I did try Samba - never really got it working. In the end I
swapped back to Warp Server - much easier to use with Warp clients and
Windows.

Anyway, IMAP... I just want a lite version. It will run on a 486, Lotus is
out. The 486 is running the Lan, Apache, and REXC. It's just a play system I
use at home. I want to collect mail from 3 servers, toss it to folders, and
connect with my everyday computer via IMAP. I figured the best place to start
was to get a IMAPD running. This is when I came on the:

 			       OS2 BUILD NOTES
     The OS2 port is incomplete.  There are no plans to continue work on it.

I was confused because I have yet to find a IMAP server for WARP and then run
across this.

>On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 05:50:51, "Michael K Greene" <mgreene@exis.net> 
>wrote:
>
>> I have been looking for a IMAP server (imapd) for Warp. I did find:
>> 
>> http://www.washington.edu/imap/
>> 
>> I downloaded the file, which included most OSs (even Amiga). It did have
some
>> OS/2 files, but on reading the docs it says:
>> 
>> 			       OS2 BUILD NOTES
>>      The OS2 port is incomplete.  There are no plans to continue work on
it.
>> 
>> Is there no other source for IMAPD on OS/2?
>> 
>
>The Lotus Domino Mail server has an IMAP server
>capability. You have to pay for it though.
>
>You can download a trial version from http://www.lotus.com
>
>Lorne Sunley
>

Michael K Greene <mgreene@exis.net>     |      OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311



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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           08-Nov-99 07:07:05
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 03:40:17
Subj: Re: IMAPD??????

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

I looked the IMAPD from U of Washington quite a while ago.

When I asked about the progress of the OS/2 port at that time
they were doing very little with it then (about 3 years ago) as
they did not have any OS/2 machines to do the work on.

Someone (I can't remember who) replied to my E-Mail and
said that the OS/2 port would be very close to the Windows NT
one and with very little work the NT port (once completed - it
was not at the time I talked to them) could be converted to
OS/2 as the requirements were much the same.

I never got around to doing anything with it as my client at
the time was perfectly happy using a POP3 daemon to
do their mail handling on OS/2.

Maybe it would be easy to complete it they have the
Windows NT port completed.

Lorne Sunley

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 06:45:45, "Michael K Greene" <mgreene@exis.net> 
wrote:

> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 06:10:21 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> Lorne,
> 
> How did I know that you would reply? I tried the LOTUS path. 
> 
> As a side bar, I did try Samba - never really got it working. In the end I
> swapped back to Warp Server - much easier to use with Warp clients and
> Windows.
> 
> Anyway, IMAP... I just want a lite version. It will run on a 486, Lotus is
> out. The 486 is running the Lan, Apache, and REXC. It's just a play system I
> use at home. I want to collect mail from 3 servers, toss it to folders, and
> connect with my everyday computer via IMAP. I figured the best place to
start
> was to get a IMAPD running. This is when I came on the:
> 
>  			       OS2 BUILD NOTES
>      The OS2 port is incomplete.  There are no plans to continue work on it.
> 
> I was confused because I have yet to find a IMAP server for WARP and then
run
> across this.
> 
> >On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 05:50:51, "Michael K Greene" <mgreene@exis.net> 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I have been looking for a IMAP server (imapd) for Warp. I did find:
> >> 
> >> http://www.washington.edu/imap/
> >> 
> >> I downloaded the file, which included most OSs (even Amiga). It did have
some
> >> OS/2 files, but on reading the docs it says:
> >> 
> >> 			       OS2 BUILD NOTES
> >>      The OS2 port is incomplete.  There are no plans to continue work on
it.
> >> 
> >> Is there no other source for IMAPD on OS/2?
> >> 
> >
> >The Lotus Domino Mail server has an IMAP server
> >capability. You have to pay for it though.
> >
> >You can download a trial version from http://www.lotus.com
> >
> >Lorne Sunley
> >
> 
> Michael K Greene <mgreene@exis.net>     |      OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311
> 
> 
> 


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From: mmellin@home.com                                  08-Nov-99 09:38:18
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 10:31:26
Subj: Re: Warp's MPTS Config with NT4 Peer

From: mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:28:42, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) wrote:

> > Do I need NetBios on the RTL NIC, for NT,
> 
> Yes, if you have NT using NETBIOS/NETBEUI rather
> than NETBIOS/TCPIP (which is NT's default)

Is one prefered over the other ?


> >    perhaps just for other Peer OS2 machines ?
> 
> The other Peer OS/2 machines will use it if they
> are configured with OS/2 NETBIOS

Is NetBIOS more stable or faster ?


> > Can/should there be a domain name for a peer
> >    gateway ?
> 
> There are actually two "domain" names involved
> one is for the TCP/IP internet access which is
> your ISP's domain name. The other "WARPNET"
> is for the file sharing NETBIOS domain.
> 
> The two "domains" are totally separate.

I think they are, OS/2's install/config/access
methodology makes the "domain" name a bit confusing.


> > Why am I setting up a network in my home ??
> It's a good way to develop a craving for TWO cold beers

> > Where can I find a BIG cold beer
> In the 'fridge second shelf down, on the right.....

Yea - well I just went and checked - it's all gone
musta finished it all off while I was installing
peer and hacking up my config.sys !!

 
> On the NT machine what protocols do you
> have "installed", "turned on" or whatever they
> call it in the "Network" icon? You need TCP/IP
> which you must have or you could not set up
> the parameters.

TCPIP and NetBEUI.


> For "file and print sharing" you do not need the
> NETBIOS over TCP/IP you could just
> use NETBEUI which is faster on a small LAN
> and is less likely to lead to inadvertant sharing
> of stuff that may be visible to the entire internet.

I didn't even see NetBios over TCPIP as an installable
option under WinNT's network protocals


> Questions to you....
> 
> Can you PING the NT machines IP address
> from the gateway machine?

Yep - but I couldn't when I sent this post !!! 

> Can you PING the gateway machine from the
> NT machine?

Aye Capt...


> Do you have some sort of NAT gateway software
> installed like Injoys Gateway http://www.fx.dk ?

Right on the money, I bought IJFire about a month ago.


Well, everything is up and running, geez - I cant belive
it's finished - no can I understand why it was so
difficult.

First it was the NetBIOS/BEUI stuffs. NT could see Warp's
shares, but Warp couldn't see NT's.  Flipped a bit in NT's
registry (lmannounce).

Then found that MPTN screws up IBMLAN.INI, forgetting my
second adapter configs "net1=NETBEUI$,0,LM10,100,150,14",
which has to be manually entered in, as did both the
"wrknets = NET1,NET2" and "srvnets = NET1,NET2".

Reinstalled the InJoyFirewall/Gateway - forgetting that
I'd been playing with the filters - so even though
everything was working fine I couldn't get ping a
DNS resolveable IP...

All in all - one heck of Sunday !! - I've learned much
more than I intended !!

These newsgroups kill me - when I think of the money we/I
spend on tech-support (who aren't in on Sunday), which just
buys us their "ball's-back-in-your-court" attitude, as they
ineptly provide inaccurate, information with a non-cholant
approach to solving a problem... then I poke around Deja,
or just drop a post to comp.os...  Anyhoo...

Much thanks again for the speedy response, it pointed me
in the right direction, confirming, and correcting my
understanding (or mis-understandings !!).

Mark Mellin


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From: ben.garston@altavista.net                         08-Nov-99 19:21:13
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 20:06:28
Subj: bridges & gateways

From: Ben Garston <ben.garston@altavista.net>

Oh knowledgeable and great ones

I am a lonely Computer Science Student lost in the depths of the
information super highway trying to find out about network ?bridges? and
?gateways?.
I specifically require manufactures of such products, URL?s of the
manufactures web sites, model numbers and prices in pound sterling.



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From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM                         09-Nov-99 00:55:20
  To: All                                               08-Nov-99 21:19:01
Subj: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer

From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM (Frank V. Schubert)

I am wondering if anyone can assist me.  I have a LAN here that consists
of a Server and several workstations.  I use BA/2 for my backup to tape.
BA/2 runs on the Server and backs up the server and all workstations to
the tape drive on the Server.

My problem is if one of the workstations fails, I will need to be able
to boot something from diskette that will connect to the LAN so that I
can run BA/2 to restore the drives to the workstation.

Now, I have seen several posts that indicate I should run ThinLaps to
put networking onto the diskettes.  However, this doesn't seem to me to
be enough.  It occurs to me that I would actually need to have PEER
installed.

To that end, I have used BOOTOS2 to build a set of bootable disks that
contain networking.  I have added a 3rd diskette that contains the LAN
Requestor code, I think.

However, when after booting up and getting the OS/2 prompt, I then issue
the NET START REQUESTER and this fails with a message indicating that a
file could not be found.  The problem is that it does not identify what
file.

Am I going about this the wrong way?  I am trying to basically setup a
bootable set of diskettes that will bring a workstation up in a mode that
allows it to make it's hard drives accessible to the server over the
network.  That way, I can just crank up BA/2 and have him restores files
directly to the hard drives.

Maybe I need to do something else?  Any thoughts?

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From: NOSPAM_R.Ihle@S-t.De                              09-Nov-99 13:13:18
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 13:50:28
Subj: Re: Netware NDS 

From: NOSPAM_R.Ihle@S-t.De (Ruediger Ihle)

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:31:28, "Charles Turner" <No.Spam@null.org> wrote:

> However, I can't figure out how to use the print queues in NDS mode.
> Apparently
> (as I have my system configured at the moment anyway) everything I try to
> setup a printer, eg. using the network printer template, tries to access the
> printer
> using bindery mode, not NDS mode.


The network printer templates don't work with NDS queues. Only
bindery mode is supported. We use captured local printers instead.


-- 
Ruediger "Rudi" Ihle [S&T Systemtechnik GmbH, Germany]
http://www.s-t.de
Please remove all characters left of the "R" in my email address

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From: No.Spam@null.org                                  08-Nov-99 10:31:14
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 14:42:23
Subj: Netware NDS 

From: "Charles Turner" <No.Spam@null.org>

On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 05:09:51 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:

>Install the Novell Network Client.
>This client works with Novell servers up to 4.12.

My system is Warp4 with FP12 and the Netware clos2n1.exe client package.

I can login to my Netware 4.11 NDS server and access my disk space there.

However, I can't figure out how to use the print queues in NDS mode.
Apparently
(as I have my system configured at the moment anyway) everything I try to
setup a printer, eg. using the network printer template, tries to access the
printer
using bindery mode, not NDS mode.

Could someone point me in the proper direction to setup for NDS printer
access. Thanks.



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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        09-Nov-99 18:47:01
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 16:00:00
Subj: Re: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <807rec$bo2$1@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>, IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM (Frank
V. Schubert) writes:
>I am wondering if anyone can assist me.  I have a LAN here that consists
>of a Server and several workstations.  I use BA/2 for my backup to tape.
>BA/2 runs on the Server and backs up the server and all workstations to
>the tape drive on the Server.
>
>My problem is if one of the workstations fails, I will need to be able
>to boot something from diskette that will connect to the LAN so that I
>can run BA/2 to restore the drives to the workstation.
>
>Now, I have seen several posts that indicate I should run ThinLaps to
>put networking onto the diskettes.  However, this doesn't seem to me to
>be enough.  It occurs to me that I would actually need to have PEER
>installed.
>
>To that end, I have used BOOTOS2 to build a set of bootable disks that
>contain networking.  I have added a 3rd diskette that contains the LAN
>Requestor code, I think.
>
>However, when after booting up and getting the OS/2 prompt, I then issue
>the NET START REQUESTER and this fails with a message indicating that a
>file could not be found.  The problem is that it does not identify what
>file.
>
>Am I going about this the wrong way?  I am trying to basically setup a
>bootable set of diskettes that will bring a workstation up in a mode that
>allows it to make it's hard drives accessible to the server over the
>network.  That way, I can just crank up BA/2 and have him restores files
>directly to the hard drives.
>
>Maybe I need to do something else?  Any thoughts?

The easiest way of connecting to your server is use thinlaps to get
the necessary network drivers installed and protocol.ini configured.

In addition you need to configure SRVIFS. At the server you only need to
start SERVICE, and possible edit SERVICE.INI to reflect your environment.
You don't need a re-boot for this to work.

On the client you need two statements in CONFIG.SYS

DEVICE=A:\SRVIFS.SYS
IFS=A:\SRVIFSC.IFS COMPUTERNAME

Once you have booted up you can map drives using:-

srvattch x: servername

There's a utility, THINIFS, (I think) which will setup the client for you. 

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>----------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From: giotex@vislink.it                                 10-Nov-99 00:54:29
  To: All                                               09-Nov-99 21:17:16
Subj: TCP/IP with NE2000 with Warp 3 ?

From: giotex@vislink.it (gioTex)

I have resumed an old warp 3 CD bought in 1995, and I'd like to use it
as telnet, ftp and www client into a little intranet but ... there is
not any support for NE2000 boards nor for the TCP/IP protocol.

I've been away from OS/2 from middle 1996, so I'm not up to date with
new stuffs:

can someone tell me in few word how can I can get a Warp 3 system
working into a little Ethernet lan using NE2000 clone ISA/PCI card ?

Thanx a lot.


------------------------
Lunga vita e prosperita'
giotex@vislink.it

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           10-Nov-99 02:33:21
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: Re: TCP/IP with NE2000 with Warp 3 ?

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:54:59, giotex@vislink.it (gioTex) wrote:

> I have resumed an old warp 3 CD bought in 1995, and I'd like to use it
> as telnet, ftp and www client into a little intranet but ... there is
> not any support for NE2000 boards nor for the TCP/IP protocol.
> 
> I've been away from OS/2 from middle 1996, so I'm not up to date with
> new stuffs:
> 
> can someone tell me in few word how can I can get a Warp 3 system
> working into a little Ethernet lan using NE2000 clone ISA/PCI card ?
> 

You need Warp 3 Connect, not plain Warp 3 to obtain
the LAN support for TCP/IP. Plain Warp 3 only supports
the dial-up TCP/IP connections using a partial stack.

Lorne Sunley

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From: rowe001@ibm.net                                   10-Nov-99 01:14:05
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 05:30:18
Subj: OS/2 Warp Server as Internet Gateway

From: "Duncan S. Rowe" <rowe001@ibm.net>

I have an OS/2 Warp Server as an Internet Gateway thanks to InJoy 2.3
and Advantis Dial up.
This will change....
I need to move this server onto a larger LAN where fast Internet access
is available 24/7

So...

How can this server act as an Internet Gateway for my  small local LAN
connected to the larger LAN

I can put NICs in one (for each LAN) and bind an IP to each...what else
needs to be done...

Any tips would be appreciated

cheers


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From: edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com                       10-Nov-99 01:13:12
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 10:29:14
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp Server as Internet Gateway

From: Edward Jaffe <edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com>

"Duncan S. Rowe" wrote:
> 
> I can put NICs in one (for each LAN) and bind an IP to each...what else
> needs to be done...

You'll need to ensure IP Forwarding is enabled. Set up the correct
routes (or use OROUTED) and you should be in business.

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    09-Nov-99 18:21:09
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 10:29:14
Subj: Re: WarpServer & Dos client

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

Replied via e-mail.


In article <f5O4dXX6MbiT-pn2-VsVdEWyRb4k2@localhost>,
kenames@earthlink.net wrote:
>All fine and well but how does DLS or LANMAN client get installed on a
>floppy for boot? I have been trying here also with no success. Maybe 
>you could post the disk contents needed and whatever other info is 
>needed to build such a disk. Thanks
>
>Ken
>
>On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:46:01, jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) wrote:
>
>> In article <pyrorevozarg.fklig00.pminews@news3.ibm.net>,
>> "Clemens Pipek" <cleber@ibm.net> wrote:
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >i need a dos bootdisk with a WS-Dos client (command line). All what i 
>> >like to is to boot, login to WS and after this i start DriveImage from 
>> >PowerQuest. We need this for backup and/or cloning HDD's.
>> >
>> >1) ist this possible
>> >2) what do i need
>> >3) how to bring the client to FDD
>> 
>> At work, we do the same using PC-DOS.
>> You'll need the IBM DOS LAN Services or equivalent from MS, to build a
>> bootable diskette capable of connecting to the server.  IBM DLS should
>> be on the Warp Server or its CD.
>> 
>> Place all the Drive Image stuff on a server, so that you don't have to
>> keep it on the floppies.  Then create a batch file that logs you on to
>> the server and includes the PQDI subdirectory in the path.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>> The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
>> IBM Canada Ltd.
>
>
>

-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: wwinzigNOwwSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid               10-Nov-99 03:43:20
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 10:29:14
Subj: Warp losing Netware drive mappings. Why?

From: Willi Winzig <wwinzigNOwwSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid>

Hi

We have a Warp machine with numerous mappings on Novell servers. After
some time it starts losing those mappings one by one. I suspect some
problem with the settings for IPX/SPX in net.cfg

Where can I find some recommendations for the settings therein?

Running Netware Client V2.12 on Warp 4 and Intranetware on the server.

Any hints greatly appreciated

Regards
Willi



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From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM                         10-Nov-99 22:01:08
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 20:03:07
Subj: Re: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer

From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM (Frank V. Schubert)

In message <3829A93F.3941CC8C@ibm.net> - Meinolf Sondermann <merlins@ibm.net>
writes:
:>
:>Hello Frank,
:>
:>"Frank V. Schubert" wrote:
:>> 
:>> In message <38286c27.0@katana.legend.co.uk> - jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk
(John
:>> Poltorak) writes:
:>> :>
:>
:>[....]
:>
:>> :>In addition you need to configure SRVIFS. At the server you only need to
:>> :>start SERVICE, and possible edit SERVICE.INI to reflect your
environment.
:>> :>You don't need a re-boot for this to work.
:>> :>
:>> :>On the client you need two statements in CONFIG.SYS
:>> :>
:>> :>DEVICE=A:\SRVIFS.SYS
:>> :>IFS=A:\SRVIFSC.IFS COMPUTERNAME
:>> :>
:>> :>Once you have booted up you can map drives using:-
:>> :>
:>> :>srvattch x: servername
:>> :>
:>> :>There's a utility, THINIFS, (I think) which will setup the client for
you.
:>> :>
:>
:>[....]
:>
:>> Thanks John.  That sort of did the trick.  What I really needed was a way
to
:>> share the workstation drives with the server.  That way, I could crank up
BA/2
:>> and just have him restore directly to the workstation drives.  However,
this
:>> at least gives me a way out.
:>
:>SERVICE.EXE can as well be run from a floppy . You would then need the
mentioned
:>DEVICE and IFS statements at your server machine.
:>With this changing the roles, you can directly restore to your workstations
drives.
:>
:>Bye/2
:>Meinolf
:>

Yes, I thought of that and tried it quickly, but had no success.  The
SERVICE command on the workstation would not do anything.  No message,
just returned to the command prompt.

Have you actually tried this?

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From: mgreene@exis.net                                  10-Nov-99 18:31:17
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 21:35:27
Subj: InJoy Route

From: "Michael K Greene" <mgreene@exis.net>

I am seeing some problems I believe???? A nestat -r after connection shows
the route added from my connection to my ISP. When I disconnect the route is
still present. I dial and disconnect again- the list just keeps growing.
However netstat -a shows the ppp route removed after disconnect. Is this
right?
Michael K Greene <mgreene@exis.net>     |      OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311



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From: merlins@ibm.net                                   10-Nov-99 18:19:29
  To: All                                               10-Nov-99 23:25:13
Subj: Re: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer

From: Meinolf Sondermann <merlins@ibm.net>

Hello Frank,

"Frank V. Schubert" wrote:
> 
> In message <38286c27.0@katana.legend.co.uk> - jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk
(John
> Poltorak) writes:
> :>

[....]

> :>In addition you need to configure SRVIFS. At the server you only need to
> :>start SERVICE, and possible edit SERVICE.INI to reflect your environment.
> :>You don't need a re-boot for this to work.
> :>
> :>On the client you need two statements in CONFIG.SYS
> :>
> :>DEVICE=A:\SRVIFS.SYS
> :>IFS=A:\SRVIFSC.IFS COMPUTERNAME
> :>
> :>Once you have booted up you can map drives using:-
> :>
> :>srvattch x: servername
> :>
> :>There's a utility, THINIFS, (I think) which will setup the client for you.
> :>

[....]

> Thanks John.  That sort of did the trick.  What I really needed was a way to
> share the workstation drives with the server.  That way, I could crank up
BA/2
> and just have him restore directly to the workstation drives.  However, this
> at least gives me a way out.

SERVICE.EXE can as well be run from a floppy . You would then need the
mentioned
DEVICE and IFS statements at your server machine.
With this changing the roles, you can directly restore to your workstations
drives.

Bye/2
Meinolf

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From: tulloch@modempool.com                             10-Nov-99 22:53:10
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: VPN

From: Daniel Tulloch <tulloch@modempool.com>

Anyone know of a VPN client for OS/2 compatible or equivalent to
CheckPoint's VPN client?

Thanks,

Dan

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From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com               11-Nov-99 03:17:14
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 03:54:25
Subj: Re: WarpServer & Dos client

From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com (Paul Saletan)

Assuming you have a FAT partition available on the local hard drive:

1. Download the free LANMAN/DOS client from Microsoft -- the one that
fits on 2 diskettes.  The version I have is 3.0, dated 5/96.

2. Run SETUP.EXE.  Install it to a hard drive directory  (C:\LANMAN in
this example) on a partition that is visible when you boot DOS.

3. Ensure that it's working.  You need the line
DEVICE=C:\LANMAN\IFSHLP.SYS in your DOS CONFIG.SYS.  Then run "NET
START" and see if you you can NET VIEW \\OTHERMACHINE on your LAN.

4. Now mimic this setup on your boot diskette with just the IFSHLP.SYS
file (if you want to run NET START from the hard disk) or with all the
files you've installed except maybe SETUP.EXE (if you want to run
everything from floppy).  If you want to copy all the files from the
directory onto floppy, be sure to change the drive letter references
in SYSTEM.INI.


kenames@earthlink.net wrote:

>All fine and well but how does DLS or LANMAN client get installed on a
>floppy for boot? I have been trying here also with no success. Maybe 
>you could post the disk contents needed and whatever other info is 
>needed to build such a disk. Thanks
>
>Ken
>
>On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:46:01, jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) wrote:
>
>> In article <pyrorevozarg.fklig00.pminews@news3.ibm.net>,
>> "Clemens Pipek" <cleber@ibm.net> wrote:
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >i need a dos bootdisk with a WS-Dos client (command line). All what i 
>> >like to is to boot, login to WS and after this i start DriveImage from 
>> >PowerQuest. We need this for backup and/or cloning HDD's.
>> >
>> >1) ist this possible
>> >2) what do i need
>> >3) how to bring the client to FDD
>> 
>> At work, we do the same using PC-DOS.
>> You'll need the IBM DOS LAN Services or equivalent from MS, to build a
>> bootable diskette capable of connecting to the server.  IBM DLS should
>> be on the Warp Server or its CD.
>> 
>> Place all the Drive Image stuff on a server, so that you don't have to
>> keep it on the floppies.  Then create a batch file that logs you on to
>> the server and includes the PQDI subdirectory in the path.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>> The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
>> IBM Canada Ltd.
>
>


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From: merlins@ibm.net                                   11-Nov-99 07:52:29
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 10:44:23
Subj: Re: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer

From: Meinolf Sondermann <merlins@ibm.net>

Hello Frank,

"Frank V. Schubert" wrote:
> 

[....]

> 
> Yes, I thought of that and tried it quickly, but had no success.  The
> SERVICE command on the workstation would not do anything.  No message,
> just returned to the command prompt.
> 
> Have you actually tried this?
> 

Yes, I did so some two years ago at my former employer to
clone one laptop to another. One would would boot from
floppies and then run service.exe. The other would boot
from the same set of floppies and then call srvattch.exe.

In a second case, I started service.exe as a detached
process on both machines. In this case I could run
srvattch.exe as well an both machines and then did the
xcopy for one partition from one box and the second
partition from the other. This decreased processing time.

The floppies I used were created as bootdisks for remote
installation and then customized to not call any installation
automatically.

To run service.exe you need the file service.ini customized
to your case. AFAIR, if service.exe doesn't find a valid 
ini file, it quits without any message.

If you rename service.exe to some other name , lets say
smallsrv.exe , then you have to rename service.ini to
smallsrv.ini as well. This allowed me to run. in this case 4,
different CID servers on the same box .

> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> @ Triangle Systems INC. / IOF Tech Support - Frank V. Schubert @
> @       IOF Web page: ptth://com.triangle-systems.www(reversed)@
> ----------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Why do you advertise your website in this form ?
Hiding e-mail addresses is ok, but website addresses ... ?
No complaint, just a hint.

Bye/2
Meinolf


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From: willy@magma.ca.support-cauce-now                  11-Nov-99 20:33:29
  To: All                                               11-Nov-99 19:59:17
Subj: Re: Surevey: Linux VS. Windows NT VS. NetWare

From: willy@magma.ca.support-cauce-now (William Wueppelmann)

In our last episode (Sat, 06 Nov 1999 22:14:06 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Lucius Chiaraviglio said:
>	Without answering the questions themselves, I will point out the ways
>that the following poll is flawed:
>
>"Soren" <soren@webresumes.cx> wrote:
>>Hi, My name is Soren Winslow. I am a student at Heald College. In my basic
>>networking class I have been asked to conduct the following Poll. If you are
>>a networking guru, geek or professional, would you please answer the
>>following survey. Thank You, Soren. soren@webresumes.cx
>>
>>___________________________________________________________________
>>Which Network Operating System do you prefer?
>>A- Linux
>>B- Windows NT
>>C- NetWare
>
>	You should at least provide a "D- Other" choice here.  Several other
>network-capable operating systems are in common use,

There should be an option D, but it should be "Don't know or no opinion."
Perhaps the question should be more clearly-worded as "Which of the
following network operating systems do you prefer."

Of course, a context in which to prefer them is important too.  As much as
someone may love NetWare, I'll bet it's a poor e-commerce platform.

>>2- Rank the reasons (1-5) why you chose the OS you picked in question #1.
>>Compatibility
>>Cost
>>Security
>>Stability
>>The logo
>
>	You should at least provide an "Other" choice here, and in addition
>you should really add performance, licensing, and availability of source code
>as explicit options.  The latter two are very important to many users of
>Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD.

But not necessarily to the surveyor.  Maybe he just wants to know which of
the five factors people consider most important and isn't interested in
other reasons.  The question should probably stipulate that you can leave
any of those factors out of the ranking if it was not a significant factor.

>>3- How did you learn about the OS you picked in question #1.
>>A- School
>>B- Self-Study
>>C- Work
>
>	Considering the rest of this poll, I am surprised you didn't include
>categories "D- Advertising" and "E- Provided with the computer".

This should have an "other" option because it's an open question; it's
quite possible that there could be other reasons than A, B and C, such as
the examples provided here, divine revalation, and countless others.  There
should also be an instruction to select all that apply, since it's possible
to learn about an OS from several sources.  The options must always cover
the full range of possible answers to the question being asked.

>>4- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is most stable.
>>Linux
>>Windows NT
>>NetWare
>>
>>5- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is easiest to install.
>>Linux
>>Windows NT
>>NetWare
>>
>>6- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe has the best security features.
>> Linux
>>Windows NT
>>NetWare
>>
>>7- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is easiest to use.
>>Linux
>>Windows NT
>>NetWare
>
>	See my comment above about Question 1.  For the last 3(!) of these, a
>lot of people would choose MacOS and have some basis for making that choice,
>even if not totally correct.

There is nothing wrong with only offering these options, though the user
should be asked to exclude those for which he or she has no opinion.

A better way to ask all of these ranking questions would be:

How easy to use are the following operating systems?

                          Easiest        Hardest
               Don't
	       Know/ No   1  2  3  4  5  6  7
	       Opinion
Linux             X       X  X  X  X  X  X  X
Windows NT        X       X  X  X  X  X  X  X
NewWare           X       X  X  X  X  X  X  X

It's more clear, allows for more useful responses, and allows the person
being questioned to rank each OS against a scale rather than have to
compare them against one another, which is harder (well, Windows NT is
easier than Linux for X, but harder for Y, and Novell beats them both for Q
but is way harder for R and S...) and is likely to result in a more
prejudicial view.


>
>>8- What is your occupation?
>>
>>9- What is your age?
>
>	These two questions demonstrate why multiple-choice questions are
>hard to make non-flawed without consuming an inordinate amount of space
>(although age, being linear, could reasonably be divided into bins).

It's also a good idea not to ask for a person's exact age, income or other
information that might be sensitive and which people might not want to
disclose, unless it's critical to the survey to have precise figures.

>>10- What is your education?
>>A- High School
>>B- Some College
>>C- College Graduate
>
>	As someone else pointed out, you should also provide other choices.
>A handful of people who would have reason to take this poll might not have
>finished high school, while others might have gotten post-college degrees.

I think that the right way to ask is "Identify the highest level of
education attained from the following."

Of course, not everyone finishes high school, so there should be a "none of
the below" option as well.


Any survery should be tested by having a few people take it and comment on
it before you send it out.  Also, posting a survey to Usenet is problematic
because it's hard to know how many potential respondants there are, so you
don't know what your return rate is.  Also, if you post the survey to
comp.os.linux.misc, you can only conclude that your results represent the
opinions of people who read comp.os.linux.misc.  Posting to several groups
means you can say that the opinions may reflect the opinions of people who
read those groups only.

There's a lot to constructing and delivering a survey.  This is all
standard graduate studies research methods stuff, but there are probably
others here who have done more work on survey methodologies who could
contribute more.

-- 
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.

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From: Homer.Price@acmecompfarm.com                      11-Nov-99 23:08:12
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 05:21:02
Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

From: "Homer Price" <Homer.Price@acmecompfarm.com>

Has anyone been successful in getting a D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+ 10/100
Ethernet NIC to work with OS/2 Warp v3 or v4? I can't get it OS/2 to
see the card at boot up.

The OS/2 *.nif file that came with the card sets the RANGE to 1-16.
However, the DIAG.EXE program that comes with the card claims the card
is on SLOT 18. D-Link tech support is worthless. All they did was send
the same drivers files to me that I already have.

All the the MTPS config setting wants is the card's address, which I
entered and the slot number. I edited the *.nif file to allow 18. OS/2
v3 or v4 still can't see the card. I'm stumped.

 hp -

 * WCE 2.1G1/2241 * Try fixing it with a little duct tape and gum

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    12-Nov-99 06:34:11
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 10:28:26
Subj: Re: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <00009c2ddontspamme@acmecf.com>,
"Homer Price" <Homer.Price@acmecompfarm.com> wrote:
>Has anyone been successful in getting a D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+ 10/100
>Ethernet NIC to work with OS/2 Warp v3 or v4? I can't get it OS/2 to
>see the card at boot up.
>

<SNIP>

Yes, I have several of them working. It takes a bit of doing, though,
since the drivers for the DFE530TX won't work with it (different
chipset on the card).

On the disk that came with the card, there is a NDIS directory, with
an OS/2 Subdirectory. In there, you'll find the Lanserver drivers for
this card. You need the driver, but not the NIF file (the NIF file
will not work). Use the NIF file from the DFE530TX card.

Rename the DLKFET.NIF file to RTL8139.NIF

Copy the RTSND.OS2 file to the x:\ibmcom\macs directory (where x is
the boot drive).

Open the RTL8139.NIF file with a plain text editor, and change the
references to DLKFET.OS2 to RTSND.OS2 (also the DLKFET$ to RTSND$).

Edit your config.sys file, and change the line that loads the driver:
DEVICE=x:\IBMCOM\MACS\RTSND.OS2  (again, where x is the boot drive).

Reboot, and go into MPTS setup and ADD the card and whatever protocols
you wish to use.

After you have completed these steps, open the x:\ibmcom\protocol.ini
file (with a plain text editor) and make sure that the references are
correct (should point to RTL8139.NIF).

If you have any problems, e-mail me and I'll send you samples of my
files.


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From: furd@mit.edu                                      12-Nov-99 07:36:29
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 10:28:27
Subj: Re: Help - Duplicate names?

From: "Frank Field" <furd@mit.edu>

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:42:47 -0500 (EST), Frank Field wrote:

:>I'm running an OS/2 Warp 4 machine as gateway/firewall 
:>for a home network; it has two network cards, one hooked 
:>to a DSL modem and one tied into the hub for the 
:>home network.  The TCP/IP gateway works fine, running
:>IGATE.  The only other machine on the net right now is
:>a Win98 machine.  This machine sees the OS/2 machine
:>OK, and the OS/2 machine can access shared resources on
:>the WIN98 machine, but any attempt to access a shared resource
:>on the OS/2 machine by the Win98 machine
:>(browsing or a NET VIEW command)
:>kills the requester on the OS/2 machine, and the log tells
:>me that I have a NET 5325 error - two or more identical
:>names on the network.
:>
:>Any ideas?
:>

I got it resolved; but I have no idea why this worked.

The trick?  Adding the WORKGROUP name to the LMHOSTS and
HOSTS file on the Windows machine, setting it to the gateway
machine's local IP address.

Why?  I have no idea - I saw this mentioned as something to do
somewhere and discounted it as nonsense, but the fact that it
fixes the problem means that there's more to this group name
stuff than *I* currently understand!

Oh, well - I have no objection to "burning a witch" - just as
long as it fixes the problem!!



Frank Field
furd@alum.mit.edu
O-


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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             12-Nov-99 22:11:13
  To: All                                               12-Nov-99 19:52:27
Subj: Re: VPN

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

Check out Tunnel/2 at http://www.fx.dk/tunnel/  It is the only VPN I 
know for OS/2.

Mark

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:53:21, Daniel Tulloch <tulloch@modempool.com> 
wrote:

-)Anyone know of a VPN client for OS/2 compatible or equivalent to
-)CheckPoint's VPN client?
-)
-)Thanks,
-)
-)Dan
-)


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