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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               29-Oct-99 23:08:05
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Did the OS/2 has Mirror function in system like NT?

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Did the OS/2 has Mirror function in system like NT?
BY: "Michael Wu" <kuohwa@ms21.hinet.net>

Hi,
.
Have you tried the Hobbes website to see if they have a mirror program?
.
>I am a new user in OS/2, I just want to try the Mirror function like the NT
>mirror function in the system, but I can not find it after search all the
>component in OS/2.
>Could anyone teach me is there any tools provide this function or any
>utility can do such things?


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From: jscott@csolve.net                                 30-Oct-99 04:45:03
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: Daniela, just wondering...

From: JohnS <jscott@csolve.net>


Mike Ruskai wrote:
> 
> On 28 Oct 1999 20:36:57 GMT, John Hong wrote:
> 
> >       Is there anything she can't do?  ;-)
> >
> >       Check out the new DANIADSK driver (IBMATAPI.FLT replacement) at
> >Hobbes.  Just look at the todo listing, the most important one for some
> >people is the ASPI router implementation.  If I am not mistaken, this is
> >the only thing that is preventing current IDE CDR/CDRW users from using
> >CDRecord/2 which is the port of the linux free CDR/CDRW recording
> >software.  The reason why only SCSI CDR/CDRW's can be used is because
> >we only have a SCSI ASPI router driver, no ATAPI ASPI router driver.  If
she
> >does implement this then there is a good chance I think that you guys can
use
> >CDRecord/2 in the future.
> >
> >       Just curious, any chance of a DANISCOM (com port) or DANIS1284
> >(printer) or DANISCROLL (scrollmouse) drivers in the future?
> 
> An interesting thing to say, because ASPI stands for Advanced SCSI
> Peripheral Interface.
> 
> That makes the concept of an ATAPI ASPI driver somewhat absurd, unless
> someone has defined a functionality with ATAPI devices that they poorly
> called ASPI.
> 
>  - Mike
> 
Both the HP and Adaptec Win95 Apps for the HP 7200 make reference to
SCSI
when addressing this internal IDE CDRW.  Ergo , there must be a layer
somewhere that converts one to another.

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From: as@sci.fi                                         30-Oct-99 06:57:09
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: Daniela, just wondering...

From: Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi>

"Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> writes:

> On 28 Oct 1999 20:36:57 GMT, John Hong wrote:
> 
> >	Is there anything she can't do?  ;-)
> >
> >	Check out the new DANIADSK driver (IBMATAPI.FLT replacement) at 
> >Hobbes.  Just look at the todo listing, the most important one for some 
> >people is the ASPI router implementation.  If I am not mistaken, this is 
> >the only thing that is preventing current IDE CDR/CDRW users from using 
> >CDRecord/2 which is the port of the linux free CDR/CDRW recording 
> >software.  The reason why only SCSI CDR/CDRW's can be used is because 
> >we only have a SCSI ASPI router driver, no ATAPI ASPI router driver.  If
she 
> >does implement this then there is a good chance I think that you guys can
use 
> >CDRecord/2 in the future.
> >
> >	Just curious, any chance of a DANISCOM (com port) or DANIS1284 
> >(printer) or DANISCROLL (scrollmouse) drivers in the future?
> 
> An interesting thing to say, because ASPI stands for Advanced SCSI
> Peripheral Interface.
> 
> That makes the concept of an ATAPI ASPI driver somewhat absurd, unless
> someone has defined a functionality with ATAPI devices that they poorly
> called ASPI.

Not really. As I understand it, ATAPI is practically SCSI over EIDE,
hence the SCSI emulation for ATAPI devices in Linux and
Windows9x. Such emulation would probably make it possible to use ATAPI
CD-R(W) drivers with cdrecord/2.

-- 
Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi

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From: ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de                         29-Oct-99 23:55:02
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Really no "mount/2" to use image files like drives ?

From: Andreas Grosche <ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>

Stefan A. Deutscher <stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr> wrote:
> On 16 Oct 1999 10:18:21 +1000, Khairil Yusof
> <mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au> wrote:
>>On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:21:14, Andreas Grosche
>><ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de> wrote:
>>> Under Linux, this can be done in a matter of seconds by simply typing
>>> e.g. "mount /dos/hdc6.img /warp -t hpfs -o loop=/dev/loop3". [...]
>>> The effect is that a drive (for DOS or OS/2, in the sense of
>>> partition) that is used as E:, for example, and could also be mounted
>>> under Linux by "mount /dev/hdc6 /warp -t hpfs", can now be removed
>>> (e.g. if the hard disk fails) not just without losing any of the data,
>>> but also allowing the continued operation (after just one simple command)
>>> which is fully transparent to all applications.

>>Hmm.. this is a useful way of using the mount command. I'll keep that
>>in mind next time I'm "playing" around with the Linux server at home
>>when adding some old but useful HDs that might fail :)

> Another nice thing is that this way you can verify (fschk) a disk image
> before burning it to CD-ROM. For example. Cheers,  Stefan

Now that we can name so many useful applications for "mount",
is anybody working on anything like it for OS/2 ?

> Mol\'{e}culaires (LCAM), B\^{a}timent 351, Universit\'{e} de Paris-Sud

BTW, why don't you just write it without the accents ?

>  Do you know what they call a quarter-pounder with cheese in Paris?

Didn't the last one to answer questions on this topic correctly
("metric system") end up with a bullet in his head ? ;-/

Greetinx/2

Andreas Grosche <ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>

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From: cleber@ibm.net                                    30-Oct-99 23:21:19
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Cannot make different partitions

From: "Clemens Pipek" <cleber@ibm.net>

Hi all,

I got a new 6GB HD in my notebook. But with PartitionMagic v3.x or also 
os/2 fdisk i cannot choose the size of the partition. It will select 2GB even 
if i install Bootmanager. Pretty nice if BM takes 2GB place !!!
Any ideas?

Thanks for info,
Clemens




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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        30-Oct-99 20:14:14
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Large capacity removable media

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

Does anyone have any recommendations for high capacity
removable media (preferably 3.5 in) ?

I have a 1.5Gb SyJet drive, but since SyQuest have now disappeared,
I'm looking for a replacement. 

What developments are we likely to see in MO? 

Is there any chance of ever getting OS/2 support for DVD?

--
John   


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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        30-Oct-99 20:16:17
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Daniela, just wondering...

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <41ZkE0rRdj2J-pn2-dueg5VEvu6kP@localhost>, cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de
(Carsten Frank) writes:
>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:36:57, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John 
>Hong) wrote:
>
>> 	Is there anything she can't do?  ;-)
>> 
>> 	Check out the new DANIADSK driver (IBMATAPI.FLT replacement) at 
>> Hobbes.  Just look at the todo listing, the most important one for some 
>> people is the ASPI router implementation.  If I am not mistaken, this is 
>> the only thing that is preventing current IDE CDR/CDRW users from using 
>> CDRecord/2 which is the port of the linux free CDR/CDRW recording 
>> software.  The reason why only SCSI CDR/CDRW's can be used is because 
>> we only have a SCSI ASPI router driver, no ATAPI ASPI router driver.  If
she 
>> does implement this then there is a good chance I think that you guys can
use 
>> CDRecord/2 in the future.
>> 
>> 	Just curious, any chance of a DANISCOM (com port) or DANIS1284 
>> (printer) or DANISCROLL (scrollmouse) drivers in the future?
>> 
>
>The most needed one would be the Danis1284 driver

DANISDVD.DMD would be nice...

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                29-Oct-99 11:40:15
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Daniela, just wondering...

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On 28 Oct 1999 20:36:57 GMT, John Hong wrote:

>	Is there anything she can't do?  ;-)
>
>	Check out the new DANIADSK driver (IBMATAPI.FLT replacement) at 
>Hobbes.  Just look at the todo listing, the most important one for some 
>people is the ASPI router implementation.  If I am not mistaken, this is 
>the only thing that is preventing current IDE CDR/CDRW users from using 
>CDRecord/2 which is the port of the linux free CDR/CDRW recording 
>software.  The reason why only SCSI CDR/CDRW's can be used is because 
>we only have a SCSI ASPI router driver, no ATAPI ASPI router driver.  If she 
>does implement this then there is a good chance I think that you guys can use 

>CDRecord/2 in the future.
>
>	Just curious, any chance of a DANISCOM (com port) or DANIS1284 
>(printer) or DANISCROLL (scrollmouse) drivers in the future?

An interesting thing to say, because ASPI stands for Advanced SCSI
Peripheral Interface.

That makes the concept of an ATAPI ASPI driver somewhat absurd, unless
someone has defined a functionality with ATAPI devices that they poorly
called ASPI.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: kuohwa@ms21.hinet.net                             30-Oct-99 01:21:06
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Did the OS/2 has Mirror function in system like NT?

From: "Michael Wu" <kuohwa@ms21.hinet.net>

Dear All

I am a new user in OS/2, I just want to try the Mirror function like the NT
mirror function in the system, but I can not find it after search all the
component in OS/2.

Could anyone teach me is there any tools provide this function or any
utility can do such things?

Thank you very much.

Regards
Michael Wu

kuohwa@ms21.hinet.net



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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           29-Oct-99 19:23:07
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Did the OS/2 has Mirror function in system like NT?

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:21:13, "Michael Wu" <kuohwa@ms21.hinet.net> 
wrote:

> Dear All
> 
> I am a new user in OS/2, I just want to try the Mirror function like the NT
> mirror function in the system, but I can not find it after search all the
> component in OS/2.
> 
> Could anyone teach me is there any tools provide this function or any
> utility can do such things?
> 
> Thank you very much.

If you are referring to "disk mirroring" that capability is
only present in Warp Server, not the Warp 3 or Warp 4 Client
software.

Someone else may know of a third party equivalent... Anyone?

Lorne Sunley

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      29-Oct-99 19:43:26
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Daniela, just wondering...

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <abfcnzriefcnzarg.fkd5590.pminews@news1.attglobal.net>,
  "/2 User" <redonn2@<NOSPAM>attglobal.net> wrote:

> Kinda makes you wonder?

Yes, so I emailed her...

--Begin Email--
>Seriously tho, I'd personally like to thank you on behalf of the OS/2
>community for all your work on OS/2!! :)

More is yet to come (f.e. Odin) - stay tuned...

Ciao,
 Dani
--End Message--

Woo hoo! :)

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: UCShavdTop@aol.com                                01-Nov-99 07:05:26
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:24
Subj: Re: Iomega bootable zip disk

From: Steve SIR <UCShavdTop@aol.com>

I've tried using BOOTOS2 to do this, with no success. Your mileage may
vary.


Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

> anyone know if creating a bootable 100 meg Zip disk is doable?
>
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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               01-Nov-99 09:19:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <38201E2A.1C778FE7@clear.net.nz>, on 11/04/99 
   at 12:36 AM, Aaron Lawrence <aaronl@clear.net.nz> said:

Find yourself a cheap 5 user netware 3.12 license floating around at one
of the auction sites or a local BBS with a forsale echomail confernce. 
Coble together an obsolete 486 or K6 system you can buy for a song with
several multi-gig SCSI drives.  Create yourself some user id's on the
system.  Layer on the OS/2 long file name support on the server.

Low and behold, every OS you install with a Netware driver will be able to
access every file.  Instead of putting a bazillion gig on your
workstation, limit it to just a 4 gig or smaller drive.  Put EVERYTHING on
your server.  The universal PC file system IS Novell.  That is why NT will
NEVER own the network market, no matter what kind of marketing fraud they
wish to publish.

Roland

>Hi all,

>Is there any one *good* file system that NT, 95 and OS/2 can all read?
>(Some future proofing in the form of Win2000 and Linux compatibility
>would be nice too!) 

>So far I think I know:
>FAT16 is not good :-) 
>AFAIK NT cannot read Fat32
>HPFS is readable by NT(4) and OS/2 but not 95
>VFAT (fat16 with long names) is useable under NT and 95 but I did not
>have much success with the VFat drivers for OS/2. Besides it is still a
>crappy unreliable file system.

>What about any Linux file system(s)? Something else entirely?

>I guess a HPFS driver for Win95 would be nice. He said hopefully.

>THere doesn't really seem to be one nice solution *sigh* Thanks M$ (and
>IBM too I guess).

>TIA 

>Aaron
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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               01-Nov-99 09:12:04
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:20
Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <381b51a5.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 10/30/99 
   at 08:14 PM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:

>Does anyone have any recommendations for high capacity
>removable media (preferably 3.5 in) ?

>I have a 1.5Gb SyJet drive, but since SyQuest have now disappeared, I'm
>looking for a replacement. 

>What developments are we likely to see in MO? 

>Is there any chance of ever getting OS/2 support for DVD?

Is your Syjet still running?  No problems with it yet?  To my knowledge
Syquest is still doing warranty work and several sites are still doing
repair work.  Personally I own several Syjets.  I use them for backing up
my notebook while travelling and for transferring large quantities of data
when my home network isn't up.

Recently I purchased several 4 drive SCSI enclosures.  I moved my 4gig dat
drive and one of my internal Syjets into the enclosure.  Whem I'm at home
I simply move a cable between the tower and my notebook.  Boom, SCSI tape
backup.  I don't use removable media for "it is my work" stuff, just
scratch files, etc.  Internal SCSI drives are so cheap now that there is
no excuse not having enough storage internally or on a cheap home file
server.

I'm still waiting for OS/2 to ACTUALLY support the LS-120 drive.  You
know?  As in being able to BOOT FROM IT WHEN IT IS DRIVE A.  Perhaps they
should walk down the hall and talk with the PC-DOS guys who managed to
support this a LOOOOOOONG time ago.



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From: kuohwa@ms21.hinet.net                             02-Nov-99 00:04:15
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:20
Subj: Re: Did the OS/2 has Mirror function in system like NT?

From: "Michael Wu" <kuohwa@ms21.hinet.net>

Thanks for your reply, I already found it, only in Warp Server version.

Thank you very much.

Michael Wu


Dilbert Firestorm <wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote in message
news:381a6f2c-nukewaste@wwivbbs.org...
> RE: Did the OS/2 has Mirror function in system like NT?
> BY: "Michael Wu" <kuohwa@ms21.hinet.net>
>
> Hi,
> .
> Have you tried the Hobbes website to see if they have a mirror program?
> .
> >I am a new user in OS/2, I just want to try the Mirror function like the
NT
> >mirror function in the system, but I can not find it after search all the
> >component in OS/2.
> >Could anyone teach me is there any tools provide this function or any
> >utility can do such things?
>
>
> Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
>
>


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From: jong.sachs@freeserve.com                          01-Nov-99 18:50:27
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Cannot make different partitions

From: "barney" <jong.sachs@freeserve.com>

Sounds as though you need the new IBM1S506.ADD basedev  which allows fdisk
etc to see beyond 2 GB.

You can get this fom the IBM web site.

Cheers Jim

Clemens Pipek wrote in message ...
>Hi all,
>
>I got a new 6GB HD in my notebook. But with PartitionMagic v3.x or also
>os/2 fdisk i cannot choose the size of the partition. It will select 2GB
even
>if i install Bootmanager. Pretty nice if BM takes 2GB place !!!
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks for info,
>Clemens
>
>
>
>


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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        01-Nov-99 19:08:11
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <381da118$1$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$mr2ice@news.flashcom.com>,
yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net writes:
>In <381b51a5.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 10/30/99 
>   at 08:14 PM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
>
>>Does anyone have any recommendations for high capacity
>>removable media (preferably 3.5 in) ?
>
>>I have a 1.5Gb SyJet drive, but since SyQuest have now disappeared, I'm
>>looking for a replacement. 
>
>>What developments are we likely to see in MO? 
>
>>Is there any chance of ever getting OS/2 support for DVD?
>
>Is your Syjet still running?  No problems with it yet? To my knowledge
>Syquest is still doing warranty work and several sites are still doing
>repair work. 

I can confirm that warranty work is still being done as I had my drive
replaced
a few months ago, although I hadn't used it very much in the nine months I
had it.

One of my cartridges has stopped functioning which is very worrying, although
I haven't yet sought a replacement - they are supposed to have a lifetime
guarantee... I've expected the price of the cartridges to plummet as the
drives
are no longer available, but I haven't seen any place trying to offload them. 


>Personally I own several Syjets.  I use them for backing up
>my notebook while travelling and for transferring large quantities of data
>when my home network isn't up.
>
>Recently I purchased several 4 drive SCSI enclosures.  I moved my 4gig dat
>drive and one of my internal Syjets into the enclosure.  Whem I'm at home
>I simply move a cable between the tower and my notebook.  Boom, SCSI tape
>backup.  I don't use removable media for "it is my work" stuff, just
>scratch files, etc.  Internal SCSI drives are so cheap now that there is
>no excuse not having enough storage internally or on a cheap home file
>server.
>
>I'm still waiting for OS/2 to ACTUALLY support the LS-120 drive.  You
>know?  As in being able to BOOT FROM IT WHEN IT IS DRIVE A.  Perhaps they
>should walk down the hall and talk with the PC-DOS guys who managed to
>support this a LOOOOOOONG time ago.
>
>
>
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From: bov243@pasture.net                                01-Nov-99 16:29:23
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 19:58:10
Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media

From: Bovine Unit #243 <bov243@pasture.net>

>Does anyone have any recommendations for high capacity
>removable media (preferably 3.5 in) ?
>
>What developments are we likely to see in MO? 

Bigger capacities. (^:

I think the next one for 3.5" MO is 1.3GB capacity. I'm not sure, but
I've seen the cartridge sold somewhere (it may well be a typo, though)
recently.

>Is there any chance of ever getting OS/2 support for DVD?

Forget DVD. There are so many sub-formats that you wouldn't know when
you'll be totally orphaned. If you want DVD equivalent storage
capacity, go for 5.25" MO solutions.

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From: camilla@primenet.com                              02-Nov-99 00:48:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Need new tape backup

From: Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)

I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
often.  (Long history of failures here).

I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. 
Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



-------------------------------------------------------------
"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
                   that your brain falls out"

                    Camilla Cracchiolo
                     Registered Nurse
                  Los Angeles, California 
                          USA

camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla


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From: werner.geuens@skynet.be                           01-Nov-99 23:07:19
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Warp 3 GA and ATAPI ZIP

From: werner.geuens@skynet.be (Werner Geuens)

I'm running 3 connect GA, no FP's.

Just connected an ATAPI ZIP 100, after adding the IDEDASD update.

The Zip drive works, but locks itself into place as soon as I use it. I
can't eject, and can't find the EJECT command the readme.txt sais exist.

What do I correct to get the eject to function ?
BTW: is there a way to use the password protection on the ATAPI ZIP ?

-- 
werner.geuens@skynet.be (Werner Geuens)
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing.
   Wernher von Braun.

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From: camilla@primenet.com                              02-Nov-99 00:46:29
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Need new tape drive

From: Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)

I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
often.  (Long history of failures here).

I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. 
Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



-------------------------------------------------------------
"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
                   that your brain falls out"

                    Camilla Cracchiolo
                     Registered Nurse
                  Los Angeles, California 
                          USA

camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    02-Nov-99 01:05:08
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: Warp 3 GA and ATAPI ZIP

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Werner Geuens (werner.geuens@skynet.be) wrote:
: I'm running 3 connect GA, no FP's.

: Just connected an ATAPI ZIP 100, after adding the IDEDASD update.

: The Zip drive works, but locks itself into place as soon as I use it. I
: can't eject, and can't find the EJECT command the readme.txt sais exist.

: What do I correct to get the eject to function ?
: BTW: is there a way to use the password protection on the ATAPI ZIP ?

	The EJECT command is FP specific.  You will have to install a 
fixpack, no later than 35.


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From: rcrnae@octa4.net.au                               02-Nov-99 07:43:08
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 05:18:28
Subj: Re: Daniela, just wondering...

From: rcrnae@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

how about OS/Danis?

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        02-Nov-99 09:55:22
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <rxcdOCDdvXMLb3sQTT5Dlr8fvsOi@4ax.com>, Bovine Unit #243
<bov243@pasture.net> writes:
>>Does anyone have any recommendations for high capacity
>>removable media (preferably 3.5 in) ?
>>
>>What developments are we likely to see in MO? 
>
>Bigger capacities. (^:
>
>I think the next one for 3.5" MO is 1.3GB capacity. I'm not sure, but
>I've seen the cartridge sold somewhere (it may well be a typo, though)
>recently.
>
>>Is there any chance of ever getting OS/2 support for DVD?
>
>Forget DVD. There are so many sub-formats that you wouldn't know when
>you'll be totally orphaned. If you want DVD equivalent storage
>capacity, go for 5.25" MO solutions.

Are the 5.25" MO disks single sided? I'm sure I read somewhere that both sides
of the disk are used to achieve the capacity stated.

BTW who makes a good 5.25" MO drive? I assume OS/2 drivers are available...

--
John

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From: maxikins@os2bbs.com                               02-Nov-99 06:35:06
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: Warp 3 GA and ATAPI ZIP

From: Mark Klebanoff <maxikins@os2bbs.com>

John Hong wrote:
> 
> Werner Geuens (werner.geuens@skynet.be) wrote:
> : I'm running 3 connect GA, no FP's.
> 
> : Just connected an ATAPI ZIP 100, after adding the IDEDASD update.
> 
> : The Zip drive works, but locks itself into place as soon as I use it. I
> : can't eject, and can't find the EJECT command the readme.txt sais exist.
> 
> : What do I correct to get the eject to function ?
> : BTW: is there a way to use the password protection on the ATAPI ZIP ?
> 
>         The EJECT command is FP specific.  You will have to install a
> fixpack, no later than 35.

No later than 35?  I can eject OK with FP 40

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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au                               02-Nov-99 14:04:25
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

The following ngs trimmed from reply: 
comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.bugs,comp.os.os2.marketplace,co
mp.os.os2.networking.misc,


On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:48:05, Camilla Cracchiolo 
<camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.) wrote:

> 
> I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  
> 
> I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
> tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
> often.  (Long history of failures here).
> 
> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
> experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. 
> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> 
> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
> newsgroup.

As someone who has had 2 x shortlived Seagate 8Gb SCSI  tape
drives and 3 other shortlived Seagate products and purchased
both Backmaster and Backagain/2:
a) I cannot recommend any Seagate product;
b) Backmaster didn't suppport the Seagate SCSI drive (out of
the box - I don't know if they have posted a update or 
upgrade that does - my own experience with Backmaster is 
that it has a 100% failure rate on making restoreable 
backups on equipment allegedly supported;
c) Backagain works well with the Seagate tape unit but also 
seems to create apparently successful backups that aren't 
(or if they are are non restoreable) on occassion (to often 
for me to have any confidence in it alone as a backup)

I recommend that you invest in downloading and learning the 
linux like ports that are around (i would say more but I 
haven't as yet had the time to figure them out (learning 
curve like a ski jump).

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             02-Nov-99 09:29:07
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

Did you use the Verify option when you did your backups?

Alan


Richard A Crane wrote:

<snip>

> c) Backagain works well with the Seagate tape unit but also
> seems to create apparently successful backups that aren't
> (or if they are are non restoreable) on occassion (to often
> for me to have any confidence in it alone as a backup)

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From: lewiscm@wfu.edu                                   02-Nov-99 13:06:28
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Two SSI cards and OS/2

From: lewiscm@wfu.edu (Charles M Lewis)

I have two SCSI adapor cards in my omputer (an Adaptec Aha-2940U and an
Adaptec 2910C).  Before I install OS/2 Warp 4.0, will it work with two
cards.....?


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From: jan.hartman@fil.lu.se                             02-Nov-99 15:59:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Two SSI cards and OS/2

From: "Jan Hartman" <jan.hartman@fil.lu.se>

On 2 Nov 1999 13:06:56 GMT, Charles M Lewis wrote:

>
>I have two SCSI adapor cards in my omputer (an Adaptec Aha-2940U and an
>Adaptec 2910C).  Before I install OS/2 Warp 4.0, will it work with two
>cards.....?
>
>

I have two scsi-cards. One 2940 for my hd, and one small
adaptec (isa) which came with my zip-drive. No problem.

If you want details, let me know.

/ Jan
===================================================
Jan Hartman
Filosofiska institutionen/Department of Philosophy
Lunds Universitet/Lund University                                       
Kungshuset, Lundagrd                                  +46-(0)46 2223253
S-222 22 Lund                                              fax +46-(0)46
2224424
Sweden
E-mail: Jan.Hartman@fil.lu.se


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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     02-Nov-99 15:14:29
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote:

> ...  The universal PC file system IS Novell.  That is why NT will
> NEVER own the network market, no matter what kind of marketing fraud they
> wish to publish.
>

This is what might be called a truth which has gone beyond the "use by" date.

Novell used to be the major file server OS, but it has been in a steep decline 
for
some years. That is why you are able to buy it so cheap.

That does not mean that the performance is any poorer, I know a major
corporation
which had to triple the server hardware when they changed from Novell to NT
servers,
and still performance was poorer. The problems with Novell are rather that
they use a
proprietary network protocol and that it is difficult to make safe server
applications.

Warp Server has a consistent track record of performing equal to or better
than Novell
in major tests, and I think it is possible to get an old LAN serveror Warp
Server 3 or
even 4 at a reasonable price if you look around. The NETBIOS protocol has more
overhead than IPX, but is an industry standard supported by both DOS, Windows
and OS/2
clients. The TCP/IP protocol has way more overhead, but it IS the standard
internet
protocol.

The principle of using a file server in a home LAN is good, and Novell is fine 
if you
know how to run it and can get it cheap enough. Personally, I prefer to run an 
OS/2
server (actually, I have both Advanced Server 4 and WSeB). The old Warp Server 
will
perform just fine on any old 486 with SCSI drives and 64MB (or down to 32MB)
RAM, or
even an old 386 PS/2. An old NT 3.51 may also do, but it is a lot more picky
with
respect to the hardware you need for decent performance.

When you run a file server, backup is very important. A big point in favour of 
the
Warp servers is that they come with PSnS, by far the best backup software you
can get
short of the extremely expensive HSM.


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From: rjfreem@attglobal.net                             02-Nov-99 10:18:13
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: rjfreem@attglobal.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 
   at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:

Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
supply fan. Heat kills.

RJF



>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
rjfreem@attglobal.net
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Nov-99 17:31:04
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:36:10, Aaron Lawrence <aaronl@clear.net.nz> 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Is there any one *good* file system that NT, 95 and OS/2 can all read?
> (Some future proofing in the form of Win2000 and Linux compatibility
> would be nice too!) 
> 
> So far I think I know:
> FAT16 is not good :-) 
> AFAIK NT cannot read Fat32
> HPFS is readable by NT(4) and OS/2 but not 95
> VFAT (fat16 with long names) is useable under NT and 95 but I did not
> have much success with the VFat drivers for OS/2. Besides it is still a
> crappy unreliable file system.
> 
> What about any Linux file system(s)? Something else entirely?
> 
> I guess a HPFS driver for Win95 would be nice. He said hopefully.
> 
> THere doesn't really seem to be one nice solution *sigh* Thanks M$ (and
> IBM too I guess).
> 
> TIA 
> 
> Aaron

AFAIK, FAT16 is the ONLY one that all of the op systems seem to have 
in common. The support is not great, but it does work, within it's 
limitations.

There are a couple of HPFS drivers that work with Win9x, but I am not 
sure if they support long file names. Look on Hoobes, for HPFSAxxx 
(the last one I have is xxx=102, but it is ancient, and doesn't 
support long file names. I don't know if it has been updated). Another
to look for is AMOS.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  02-Nov-99 18:23:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "zeppelin@gte.net" <zeppelin@gte.net>

Techmar Tape drives have worked well with BA/2. And CDS even sells them
at discount

Richard A Crane wrote:

> The following ngs trimmed from reply:
> comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.bugs,comp.os.os2.marketplace,co
> mp.os.os2.networking.misc,
>
> On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:48:05, Camilla Cracchiolo
> <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.) wrote:
>
> >
> > I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
> >
> > I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
> > tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
> > often.  (Long history of failures here).
> >
> > I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
> > experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
> > Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> >
> > Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
> > newsgroup.
>
> As someone who has had 2 x shortlived Seagate 8Gb SCSI  tape
> drives and 3 other shortlived Seagate products and purchased
> both Backmaster and Backagain/2:
> a) I cannot recommend any Seagate product;
> b) Backmaster didn't suppport the Seagate SCSI drive (out of
> the box - I don't know if they have posted a update or
> upgrade that does - my own experience with Backmaster is
> that it has a 100% failure rate on making restoreable
> backups on equipment allegedly supported;
> c) Backagain works well with the Seagate tape unit but also
> seems to create apparently successful backups that aren't
> (or if they are are non restoreable) on occassion (to often
> for me to have any confidence in it alone as a backup)
>
> I recommend that you invest in downloading and learning the
> linux like ports that are around (i would say more but I
> haven't as yet had the time to figure them out (learning
> curve like a ski jump).
>
> Richard A Crane
> Barrister & Solicitor
> slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> octa4.net.au
> OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

--
"Windows N.T."  ........OS/2 for the masses?


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From: Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com                         02-Nov-99 12:30:10
  To: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: New IBM1S506.ADD not working on Thinkpad iSeries (1400/1500)

To: Lorne Sunley <lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca>
From: Tony Saucedo <Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com>

Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:12:47, Tony Saucedo <Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone been able to install OS/2 Warp 4 on
> > the Thinkpad iSeries (1400/1500 model) Type 2611-552?
> >
> > When using the Installation diskettes the system hangs
> > on IBM1S506.ADD.
> >
> > I have updated Disk 1 and have tried various parameters
> > with IBM1S506.ADD (e.g. /A:0 /!BM /A:1 /!BM ) and (/U:1 /ATAPI)
> > even the orginal Disk 1.
> >
> > So far it continues to hang on IBM1S506.ADD.
> >
> > Any thoughts or suggestions?
> > Thanks.
> 
> You might try the IBM1S506 replacement. It's called
> DANIS506 and it is available at http://hobbes.nmsu.edut
> 
> I had to use it to get OS/2 to boot on one of my client's
> machines. We had to replace the motherboard and the
> IBM1S506 driver would hang during boot.
> 
> Lorne Sunley

Thanks Lorne.
I now have been trying to install using the DANIS506.ADD
but still no go.  That is the installation will not complete. 

The first part of the installation goes smooth then 
after the reboot to process the lock files it appears
to hang, or be running super slow.
So the installation never completes.

Any thoughts or ideas?

-- 

                                      Tony,

******************************************************
  Tony Saucedo
  EAGLE Traffic Control Systems
  Austin, Texas

  E-mail: Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com

******************************************************

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           02-Nov-99 18:59:25
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: New IBM1S506.ADD not working on Thinkpad iSeries (1400/1500)

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:30:21, Tony Saucedo <Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com> 
wrote:

> Lorne Sunley wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:12:47, Tony Saucedo <Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Has anyone been able to install OS/2 Warp 4 on
> > > the Thinkpad iSeries (1400/1500 model) Type 2611-552?
> > >
> > > When using the Installation diskettes the system hangs
> > > on IBM1S506.ADD.
> > >
> > > I have updated Disk 1 and have tried various parameters
> > > with IBM1S506.ADD (e.g. /A:0 /!BM /A:1 /!BM ) and (/U:1 /ATAPI)
> > > even the orginal Disk 1.
> > >
> > > So far it continues to hang on IBM1S506.ADD.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts or suggestions?
> > > Thanks.
> > 
> > You might try the IBM1S506 replacement. It's called
> > DANIS506 and it is available at http://hobbes.nmsu.edut
> > 
> > I had to use it to get OS/2 to boot on one of my client's
> > machines. We had to replace the motherboard and the
> > IBM1S506 driver would hang during boot.
> > 
> > Lorne Sunley
> 
> Thanks Lorne.
> I now have been trying to install using the DANIS506.ADD
> but still no go.  That is the installation will not complete. 
> 
> The first part of the installation goes smooth then 
> after the reboot to process the lock files it appears
> to hang, or be running super slow.
> So the installation never completes.
> 
> Any thoughts or ideas?
> 

Have you tried booting up on diskettes before the
first re-boot from the hard drive and checked to make
sure that the config.sys file on the hard drive is using
DANIS506.ADD instead of IBM1S506.ADD.

You can use F3 at the install screen to obtain a
command prompt and use TEDIT to edit the
config.sys file on C: that is being used to boot
from the hard drive. If DANIS506.ADD is not there
comment out IBM1S506.ADD and put in a line
for DANIS506.ADD.

Lorne Sunley


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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             02-Nov-99 14:40:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

How many generations of backups are you going to make to a removable hard
disk?

I realize that the initial cost of a tape drive is higher, but the incremental
cost for additional backups and the ease of storing backups off site is a
tremendous plus.

Using DAT, a 4GB (uncompressed) backup costs less than $10.

And what happens if the hard disk controller goes belly up? The backup is
likely to be worthless too.

Alan


rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:

> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
>
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
>
> RJF
>
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
>
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
>
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
>
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> rjfreem@attglobal.net
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               02-Nov-99 16:50:09
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:36:10 +1300, Aaron Lawrence wrote:

>THere doesn't really seem to be one nice solution *sigh* Thanks M$ (and
>IBM too I guess).
>
>TIA 

MS could be still using HPFS at their own discretion, instead of,
crosslinking, fragmenting, virus prone, slow FAT. But they had a big problem
with PC users having a choice of multiple OS's. So be sure to thank M$ "only"
for your problems. The day IBM does away with HPFS would be a good day to
complain to IBM as well.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    02-Nov-99 21:27:28
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: Warp 3 GA and ATAPI ZIP

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Mark Klebanoff (maxikins@os2bbs.com) wrote:

: >         The EJECT command is FP specific.  You will have to install a
: > fixpack, no later than 35.

: No later than 35?  I can eject OK with FP 40

	Oops, my bad. ;-)  That should have read, no *lower* than FP35.


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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          02-Nov-99 22:55:22
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-jKfU32mj2O68@localhost>
	   doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net "Doug Bissett" writes:

> AFAIK, FAT16 is the ONLY one that all of the op systems seem to
> have in common. The support is not great, but it does work,
> within it's limitations.

But be wary of allowing Lose95/98 a look at your FAT16 disks, as
it likes to mess up the format, rendering it "broken" in OS/2's
estimation.  Nowadays I leave the "write protect" tab set if my
floppies must be exposed to such danger.  Fortunately I rarely
need to import material from L*8 sources so this generally works.

And if you have to carry across info such as long names, pack all
the data up into a Zip file first.  During un-Zipping, the info
will be restored using native format rules.  (And file size will
tend to be smaller, allowing more to fit on the disk.)
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com                         02-Nov-99 17:46:26
  To: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: New IBM1S506.ADD not working on Thinkpad iSeries (1400/1500)

To: Lorne Sunley <lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca>
From: Tony Saucedo <Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com>

Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:30:21, Tony Saucedo <Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Lorne Sunley wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:12:47, Tony Saucedo <Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has anyone been able to install OS/2 Warp 4 on
> > > > the Thinkpad iSeries (1400/1500 model) Type 2611-552?
> > > >
> > > > When using the Installation diskettes the system hangs
> > > > on IBM1S506.ADD.
> > > >
> > > > I have updated Disk 1 and have tried various parameters
> > > > with IBM1S506.ADD (e.g. /A:0 /!BM /A:1 /!BM ) and (/U:1 /ATAPI)
> > > > even the orginal Disk 1.
> > > >
> > > > So far it continues to hang on IBM1S506.ADD.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts or suggestions?
> > > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > You might try the IBM1S506 replacement. It's called
> > > DANIS506 and it is available at http://hobbes.nmsu.edut
> > >
> > > I had to use it to get OS/2 to boot on one of my client's
> > > machines. We had to replace the motherboard and the
> > > IBM1S506 driver would hang during boot.
> > >
> > > Lorne Sunley
> >
> > Thanks Lorne.
> > I now have been trying to install using the DANIS506.ADD
> > but still no go.  That is the installation will not complete.
> >
> > The first part of the installation goes smooth then
> > after the reboot to process the lock files it appears
> > to hang, or be running super slow.
> > So the installation never completes.
> >
> > Any thoughts or ideas?
> >
> 
> Have you tried booting up on diskettes before the
> first re-boot from the hard drive and checked to make
> sure that the config.sys file on the hard drive is using
> DANIS506.ADD instead of IBM1S506.ADD.
>
Yes. The first couple of times I tried to use the DANIS506.ADD
I had to copy it to the OS2\BOOT directory.
But this is not the problem.

We are passed that point.

> You can use F3 at the install screen to obtain a
> command prompt and use TEDIT to edit the
> config.sys file on C: that is being used to boot
> from the hard drive. If DANIS506.ADD is not there
> comment out IBM1S506.ADD and put in a line
> for DANIS506.ADD.

I even copied the DANIS506.ADD to IBM1S506.ADD so they
aboth matched. End result....  No change.
Still hangs doing Lock files. :(

Config.sys statements are correct and driver is in place.

I'll continue to try different scenarios.

Have you installed OS/2 V4 on a Thinkpad iSeries 1500?

Thanks.

-- 

                                      Tony,

******************************************************
  Tony Saucedo
  EAGLE Traffic Control Systems
  Austin, Texas

  E-mail: Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com

******************************************************

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                02-Nov-99 19:10:25
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: Two SSI cards and OS/2

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On 2 Nov 1999 13:06:56 GMT, Charles M Lewis wrote:

>I have two SCSI adapor cards in my omputer (an Adaptec Aha-2940U and an
>Adaptec 2910C).  Before I install OS/2 Warp 4.0, will it work with two
>cards.....?

Yes, provided they aren't conflicting with each other.

As far as I know, the first driver loaded is the first adapter seen, when
determining drive letters.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               02-Nov-99 20:44:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <yAseOHvOF6WbziN3z+XM=tNQpoZo@news.kraftwerk.net>, on 11/02/99 
   at 02:53 AM, Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se> said:

>yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net [Posted via Supernews,
>http://www.supernews.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

> your server.  The universal PC file system IS Novell.  That is why NT
>will

>But is that a fact, or just typical normal 186.illegal advocacy/ranting?

It's a fact.  Novell is entrenched in the places it is at.  Despite being
forgotten about in the press it is still making huge strides in sales and
being picked by investment analysts as a strong company to invest in.

> NEVER own the network market, no matter what kind of marketing fraud
>they  wish to publish.

>Sorry, but both OS/2, NT, Linux, *BSD and SCO (to just name some common
>PC server systems) has all very good file systems.

There is a DISTINCT difference between "good file system" and network
usable file system.  In order to be a network usable file system it must
support the naming conventions of all the systems it wishes to network
with and allow storage there upon.  While HPFS is a good file system it
truly sucky-poohs when trying to allow other systems storage on it.  NT
has a file system which sucks in every aspect, but since they only wanted
to mate with FAT it works fine for those who love using Microsoft only
products.  Haven't looked at the Linux file system in about 3 years.  It
had a long way to go when I last looked.  SCO has a Microsoft improved
file system so it works as well as every other system microsoft has
improved.  (Remember, they own 20% of the company which produces an OS
they say NT is replacing.)

>No, it's not any "marketing fraud" even if you perhaps imagine that.
> 

Microsoft's stock & trade is Market Fraud.  How many times have you bought
a Microsoft product with features advertised on the box or in their ads
which were never written into the product?  Lots

>I think Novell will be more of a niche product in the future, especially
>as TCP/IP and Internet (with application services) is the norm of today,
>not IPX.

Novell has been existing on TCP/IP for years.

>How many web sites or application servers runs Novell?

no one can really know since any reputable web site will have a fire wall
with an inaccessible file system filtering messages to the application
server.

Roland

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
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".illegaltospam"
                            MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.52
                            For a Microsoft free univers
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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      03-Nov-99 06:25:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

/2 User [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News Services] ->
comp.os.os2.misc:

 MS could be still using HPFS at their own discretion, instead of,
 crosslinking, fragmenting, virus prone, slow FAT. But they had a big problem
 with PC users having a choice of multiple OS's. So be sure to thank M$
"only"

I think you read too much into it. You don't consider the basic fact that Win
NT uses NTFS and it can't use FAT32, and the other way around for Win 95/98.

Microsoft isn't even compatible with themselves (if you don't count FAT16)!

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      03-Nov-99 06:50:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net [Posted via Supernews,
http://www.supernews.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 > your server.  The universal PC file system IS Novell.
 
 >But is that a fact, or just typical normal 186.illegal advocacy/ranting?
 
 It's a fact.  Novell is entrenched in the places it is at.

[ snip on the rest of the post in the same "spirit" ]

*LOL*

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 03-Nov-99 01:16:13
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Aaron Lawrence <aaronl@clear.net.nz>
spake unto us, saying:

>Is there any one *good* file system that NT, 95 and OS/2 can all read?

No, given your eminently reasonable defintion of "good" below.  :-)

>(Some future proofing in the form of Win2000 and Linux compatibility
>would be nice too!)

Linux reads nearly everything and writes most things.

>So far I think I know:
>FAT16 is not good :-) 
>AFAIK NT cannot read Fat32
>HPFS is readable by NT(4) and OS/2 but not 95

One can READ hpfs from Windows 95 using something like ihpfs:

  ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/dos/ihpfs128.zip

but I dunno if a free DOS or Win9x read/write driver exists.

>What about any Linux file system(s)? Something else entirely?

An ext2fs IFS exists for OS/2, and utilities do exist for Windows 9x as
well, but I suspect their adherence/acknowledgement of file permissions
is less than optimal.  Don't know, though.

I use a SAMBA box and/or FAT16 partitions.  :-)

>I guess a HPFS driver for Win95 would be nice. He said hopefully.
>
>THere doesn't really seem to be one nice solution *sigh* Thanks M$
>(and IBM too I guess).

HPFS is Microsoft's filesystem, mainly, isn't it?  Though I suspect the
ownership/licensing situation there is less than simple.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless
bathroom.

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From: jsleung@telecom-digest.zzn.com                    02-Nov-99 22:12:06
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media

From: "Johnnie Leung" <jsleung@telecom-digest.zzn.com>

Bovine Unit #243 <bov243@pasture.net> wrote in message
news:rxcdOCDdvXMLb3sQTT5Dlr8fvsOi@4ax.com...
>
> Bigger capacities. (^:
>
> I think the next one for 3.5" MO is 1.3GB capacity. I'm not sure, but
> I've seen the cartridge sold somewhere (it may well be a typo, though)
> recently.

1.3-GB 3.5-inch MO gear is already available.  In the US, Fujitsu currently
offers an internal SCSI model with a FireWire model due out soon.  Fujitsu
sells external USB and SCSI models in other countries, but unfortunately not
in the US.

JL



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From: jsleung@telecom-digest.zzn.com                    02-Nov-99 22:22:19
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media

From: "Johnnie Leung" <jsleung@telecom-digest.zzn.com>

John Poltorak <jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk> wrote in message
news:381eb521.0@katana.legend.co.uk...
>
> Are the 5.25" MO disks single sided? I'm sure I read somewhere that both
sides
> of the disk are used to achieve the capacity stated.

Depends on the disc.  There are both single-sided and double-sided 5.25-inch
discs.  With double-sided discs, you need to flip the disc over.  5.25-inch
discs are either WORM or rewritable, although all 3.5-inch MO discs are
rewritable and single-sided.

> BTW who makes a good 5.25" MO drive? I assume OS/2 drivers are
available...

Sony is a (the) major 5.25-inch MO drive maker.  HP, Maxoptix, Plasmon,
Pinnacle Micro and Verbatim (Mitsubishi Chemical) are some other vendors.

JL



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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 03-Nov-99 12:57:10
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media

From: nospam@nospam.com (Bruce LaZerte)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:14:29, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) 
wrote:

> Does anyone have any recommendations for high capacity
> removable media (preferably 3.5 in) ?
>  
> I have a 1.5Gb SyJet drive, but since SyQuest have now disappeared,
> I'm looking for a replacement. 

I am in exactly the same position. 

Have been thinking about Castlewood's relatively new ORB (>2GB and works 
under OS/2 when the disks are re-formatted) but am somewhat concerned about
its reliability, acceptance and the company's lifetime...

So I'm in wait-and-see mode right now.
----------------------
Bruce LaZerte 	
Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
freshwat at muskoka dot com	

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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                03-Nov-99 12:28:10
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:11
Subj: Re: Cannot make different partitions

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>

Clemens Pipek wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I got a new 6GB HD in my notebook. But with PartitionMagic v3.x or also
> os/2 fdisk i cannot choose the size of the partition. It will select 2GB
even
> if i install Bootmanager. Pretty nice if BM takes 2GB place !!!
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks for info,
> Clemens

Since you can start fdisk, it shouldn't be the following case:
(Here goes nothing anyway )
Check your BIOS for dodgy 'virus protection' settings. They used to block all
access to the boot sector of a harddrives, maybe they got more 'advanced'.

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From: howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com                      03-Nov-99 10:42:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Howard Wong <howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com>

First off, I am assuming you are putting the hard
drive in a "drawer" that can be removed from a
chassis that remains with the CPU box.

To reap full benefit of backups, the media holding
the backed up data should be stored in a location
away from the building the computer is located. 
This requires transporting the storage media on a
regular basis, which is not what a typical hard
drive is designed for and you risk damaging the
HD. Moreover, such damage may not be noticeable
until you NEED the data for recovery.

Tape/MO/CD-R/JAZ/whatever with removable
disk/cartridge may be more expensive one way or
another, you get the intended protection that data
backup offers.

Regards,
Howard Wong

rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:
> 
> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
> 
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
> 
> RJF
> 
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
> 
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
> 
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
> 
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
> 
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
> 
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> rjfreem@attglobal.net
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     03-Nov-99 16:35:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

Doug Bissett wrote:

>
> AFAIK, FAT16 is the ONLY one that all of the op systems seem to have
> in common. The support is not great, but it does work, within it's
> limitations.
>

This is not very relevant when you use a file server. The network file system
will virtualize the file system on the server. A DOS or Windows client may
believe it it is seeing a FAT network drive, a Win 98 client may think it
works like a "32-bit" FAT with "long names support" and so on. The server
will actually use 386 HPFS, NTFS or the proprietary Novell file system. The
network client software communicates with the server in a standard protocol
(such as NETBIO), so there is never any problem when a Win 9x client tries to
store its version of long file names on a virtual volume from a Warp Server.

This is nothing new. Back in the 8088 days, I used a 6800-based file server
with a proprietary file system. It supported both MS-DOS computers, Apple II
and PCs running UCSD Pascal. Today, you can use an IBM mainframe running
OS/390 as a server for (thousands of) PCs running OS/2, UNIX, different
flavours of Windows or whatever.



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From: dbongo@ibm.net                                    03-Nov-99 15:55:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT

From: dbongo@ibm.net

I'm going to be getting a new PC soon, and will get Win NT installed on it.
(It's for free, and since I already own a copy of OS/2, it seemed pointless to
go get another copy, when NT might be marginally useful)

Anyways, I wanted to know if there was an IFS for NTFS available for
OS/2?

And, of course, a way for NT to read/write HPFS drives, if necessary.

While I would rarely use NT, and even more rarely need to see the other
OS's partitions (NT seeing OS/2 and OS/2 seeing NT) I would like to have
that option open to me, should the need arise.

I went to Hobbes and downloaded the packages there, but all I found was
a collection of tools to allow read-only NTFS access.  It's also alpha
software
that the guy recommends NOT running on a regular basis.  (the package is
NTFS-OS2 v 0.03)

I also downloaded HPFSNT.ZIP, but it had no readme.txt or similar file
included, so
I don't know about anything there.  How good it is, etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dave

PS-The new system will have NT in the first primary partition, and OS/2 on
the first logical drive in an extended partition.  Will this create any
problems?
(i.e. Will drive letters change and screw up the system, etc.?)

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From: news@sau.edu                                      03-Nov-99 17:09:23
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: zip drives and warp 4

From: AC <news@sau.edu>

Hi, on the note about warp 3 and zip drives,
I have tried to use the ide and scsi units with warp 4.0.
At one time under warp connect or 4.0 I was able to get a external scsi
to work.
The last time I tried I have little success.
I have warp 4.0 and fixpack 9 for it.
I am sure the last time I tried with a zip (ide or scsi ) I had no fix
packs or a verson of fix pack 3 or less.

My question is this,  if I install a ide zip and reload warp 4, and
install fix pack 9, will that give me the drivers needed to work with a
IDE or SCSI zip drive?

Do not reply to this, I am doing it from a school lab.

my e-mail is chadpaul@netexpress.net

chad pauli


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From: werner.geuens@skynet.be                           04-Nov-99 00:55:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:12
Subj: Re: Warp 3 GA and ATAPI ZIP

From: werner.geuens@skynet.be (Werner Geuens)

In <7vnl0s$bpc$2@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, on 11/02/99 
   at 09:27 PM, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) said:

>Mark Klebanoff (maxikins@os2bbs.com) wrote:

>: >         The EJECT command is FP specific.  You will have to install a
>: > fixpack, no later than 35.

>: No later than 35?  I can eject OK with FP 40

>	Oops, my bad. ;-)  That should have read, no *lower* than FP35.

Well, thanks anyway. I just downloaded FP40. First Fixpaq I'll ever
install. Maybe a backup would be nice. Let's see, where's that DAT ?

C ya.

-- 
werner.geuens@skynet.be (Werner Geuens)
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing.
   Wernher von Braun.

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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               03-Nov-99 18:22:26
  To: camilla@primenet.com                              03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

To: camilla@primenet.com
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
> 
> I have to get a new tape drive.  
Check http://www.cristie.com/
I am looking to purchase one of their drives (admittedly a large
autoloader) and they may be willing to bundle their backup software for
os/2.  Well if you ask them nicely they will as they seem to bundle the
Win95 crap with them.

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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               03-Nov-99 18:35:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

dbongo@ibm.net wrote:
> 
> 
> PS-The new system will have NT in the first primary partition, and OS/2 on
> the first logical drive in an extended partition.  Will this create any
problems?
> (i.e. Will drive letters change and screw up the system, etc.?)

Not a good idea to make the drive/partition on which the OS is installed
available to the other OS.

I would use Boot manager to have two bootable partitions.
A disk can have max 4 partitions (of which boot manager is one).
If you have only 1 disk
install boot manager 
create 2 primary partitions (1 for OS/2 and 1 for NT)
make the rest of the space an extended partition, thus D:

You can have D: common to both OSs, easiest if D is a FAT partition. 
More work if you want NT to read HPFS which was the filesystem of NT3.5
(I pass on OS/2 reading NTFS)

If you have two disks then you decide if the 2nd disk becomes D: or ....

Remember,  you can hide partitions from NT but not from OS/2 and usually
OSs do not like to see filesystems they do not recognise.  There are
many drivers that may allow you to "read" from another file system but
you cannot necessarily "write" to it.  NT is bad for it and I never
chanced it with OS/2 (too precious).  Only once I tried getting NT to
read HPFS but I gave up because of reliability problems.

I hope it helps.
Charles


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From: bbarry@us.ibm.com                                 03-Nov-99 13:52:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Warp 3 GA and ATAPI ZIP

From: "Barry Bryan" <bbarry@us.ibm.com>

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 23:07:38 -0100, Werner Geuens wrote:

:>The Zip drive works, but locks itself into place as soon as I use it. I
:>can't eject, and can't find the EJECT command the readme.txt sais exist.

As the IDEDASD README notes, the removable media support comes in FP35 or
later and the drivers in the package are only updates.   You need FP35 or
later to get the EJECT command.

Also, even after that, whether you can eject or not depends upon how you use
the media.   If you setup partitions on the media, you turn it into
non-removable for that boot and won't be able to eject.   This is also
discussed in the IDEDASD README.




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From: dbongo@ibm.net                                    03-Nov-99 21:09:05
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT

From: dbongo@ibm.net

Why is it a bad idea to make the boot partitions visible from multiple OSes? 
I
mean, if I screw up my config.sys file in some way, I could always restore it
easily with the other OS.

Let's say I do use 2 primary partitions.  And an OS get's screwed up.  I boot
from a floppy to fix it.  Which primary partition is seen?

I've still got time to make up my mind, just let me know why it's a bad idea.

Thank for the reply.

Dave

In <38208086.3CCB5D2F@dundee.ac.uk>, Charles Christacopoulos
<c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk> writes:
>dbongo@ibm.net wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> PS-The new system will have NT in the first primary partition, and OS/2 on
>> the first logical drive in an extended partition.  Will this create any
problems?
>> (i.e. Will drive letters change and screw up the system, etc.?)
>
>Not a good idea to make the drive/partition on which the OS is installed
>available to the other OS.
>
>I would use Boot manager to have two bootable partitions.
>A disk can have max 4 partitions (of which boot manager is one).
>If you have only 1 disk
>install boot manager 
>create 2 primary partitions (1 for OS/2 and 1 for NT)
>make the rest of the space an extended partition, thus D:
>
>You can have D: common to both OSs, easiest if D is a FAT partition. 
>More work if you want NT to read HPFS which was the filesystem of NT3.5
>(I pass on OS/2 reading NTFS)
>
>If you have two disks then you decide if the 2nd disk becomes D: or ....
>
>Remember,  you can hide partitions from NT but not from OS/2 and usually
>OSs do not like to see filesystems they do not recognise.  There are
>many drivers that may allow you to "read" from another file system but
>you cannot necessarily "write" to it.  NT is bad for it and I never
>chanced it with OS/2 (too precious).  Only once I tried getting NT to
>read HPFS but I gave up because of reliability problems.
>
>I hope it helps.
>Charles
>
>
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>http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  03-Nov-99 16:04:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 at 12:48 AM,
   Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)
said:


>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.

At the present time, maybe if there are any left you can buy an AIWA SCSI
tape drive which uses TRAVAN 4 cartridges.  Try computergeeks and
http://www.cc-solutions.com/  also called complete computer solutions.  I
got one of these a year ago and it is great.  I am running it off of a
cheap SCSI card with Nova bak.  These two vendors are also a terrific
source for SCSI and video and NIC cards as well as other stuff.

>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           03-Nov-99 21:43:14
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:09:10, dbongo@ibm.net wrote:

> Why is it a bad idea to make the boot partitions visible from multiple OSes? 
 I
> mean, if I screw up my config.sys file in some way, I could always restore
it
> easily with the other OS.

There have been instances of WinNT damaging the OS/2 HPFS
boot partition quoted in these newsgroups. I think this one (WinNT)
 is more dangerous because it's NTFS file systems operates on the
same partition type as HPFS (code 07). The potential for a semi-buggy
WinNT (AS IF :-) damaging an HPFS partition is more likely than
a Win95/98 install doing it (as long as no HPFS driver is loaded
in Win95/98).

If you use an HPFS driver in Win95/98 it would probably be best to
use it as Read Only, that way Win95/98 crashes are less likely
to mess up the HPFS boot and data partitions.

> 
> Let's say I do use 2 primary partitions.  And an OS get's screwed up.  I
boot
> from a floppy to fix it.  Which primary partition is seen?

The last Primary partition selected from boot manager is the one
that will be visible as the C: partition. I can be certain of this 
because
I am attempting to fix up a client's machine that has Win98 and OS/2
Warp in two primary partitions. (In case you are interested Win98
wiped itself out somehow.....)

> 
> I've still got time to make up my mind, just let me know why it's a bad
idea.
> 

I've got a test machine where Warp 4 is on a primary partition on
the first hard drive and Win95 is on a primary partition on the
second hard drive. OS/2 can see Win95 but Win95 cannot see
OS/2 because Win95 doesn't have an HPFS driver installed now.

I used a Win HPFS driver for a while but haven't had much use for it 
lately.
I was developing a cross-platform applications (OS/2 and
Windows) and used it quite a bit to copy files to Win95 to
build the software.

So far it hasn't damaged anything yet.

Lorne Sunley

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From: dbongo@ibm.net                                    04-Nov-99 03:13:28
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT

From: dbongo@ibm.net

So the main reason to keep the OSes invisible to each other (correct me if I'm
wrong) is to prevent NT from doing a "I've discovered you're running a copy
of OS/2.  Don't worry - I've deleted it for you." type of thing.  Or just a
general
NT bug causing it to trash the HPFS partition.  I guess I can always get by
with
boot disks in an emergency.

I'm now leaning towards 2 primary partitions.  Thanks a lot for the advice. 
Now
that you mention it, I do remember reading quite a few stories of NT damaging
OS/2 installs.  Of course, that might have been a "feature" rather than a bug.

Dave


In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-u1deEddtfnzb@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:09:10, dbongo@ibm.net wrote:
>
>> Why is it a bad idea to make the boot partitions visible from multiple
OSes?  I
>> mean, if I screw up my config.sys file in some way, I could always restore
it
>> easily with the other OS.
>
>There have been instances of WinNT damaging the OS/2 HPFS
>boot partition quoted in these newsgroups. I think this one (WinNT)
> is more dangerous because it's NTFS file systems operates on the
>same partition type as HPFS (code 07). The potential for a semi-buggy
>WinNT (AS IF :-) damaging an HPFS partition is more likely than
>a Win95/98 install doing it (as long as no HPFS driver is loaded
>in Win95/98).
>
>If you use an HPFS driver in Win95/98 it would probably be best to
>use it as Read Only, that way Win95/98 crashes are less likely
>to mess up the HPFS boot and data partitions.
>
>> 
>> Let's say I do use 2 primary partitions.  And an OS get's screwed up.  I
boot
>> from a floppy to fix it.  Which primary partition is seen?
>
>The last Primary partition selected from boot manager is the one
>that will be visible as the C: partition. I can be certain of this 
>because
>I am attempting to fix up a client's machine that has Win98 and OS/2
>Warp in two primary partitions. (In case you are interested Win98
>wiped itself out somehow.....)
>
>> 
>> I've still got time to make up my mind, just let me know why it's a bad
idea.
>> 
>
>I've got a test machine where Warp 4 is on a primary partition on
>the first hard drive and Win95 is on a primary partition on the
>second hard drive. OS/2 can see Win95 but Win95 cannot see
>OS/2 because Win95 doesn't have an HPFS driver installed now.
>
>I used a Win HPFS driver for a while but haven't had much use for it 
>lately.
>I was developing a cross-platform applications (OS/2 and
>Windows) and used it quite a bit to copy files to Win95 to
>build the software.
>
>So far it hasn't damaged anything yet.
>
>Lorne Sunley
>

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           04-Nov-99 05:33:13
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:21
Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:13:57, dbongo@ibm.net wrote:

> So the main reason to keep the OSes invisible to each other (correct me if
I'm
> wrong) is to prevent NT from doing a "I've discovered you're running a copy
> of OS/2.  Don't worry - I've deleted it for you." type of thing.  Or just a
general
> NT bug causing it to trash the HPFS partition.  I guess I can always get by
with
> boot disks in an emergency.

Yes, that's right. I've had Virus 98 problems as well. I was doing an
install of Win 98 on a computer where OS/2 and Boot Manager were
present. I had allocated a nice 2 Gbyte partition for Virus 98 (FAT of
course) and rather than use that partition (set as the C partition) 
the
Virus operating environment decided that the 2 Mbyte free space
I had accidently left on the drive was 4.3 Gbyte  of available space
and somehow set up a partition table entry for it (the 2 Mbyte) as a
4.3 Gbyte partition. The install failed (not enough space) and 
Partition Magic, OS/2 FDISK, Virus FDISK, all decided the
partition table was corrupt and would not do anything.

I finally used DFSEE (available on http://hobbes.nmsu.edu )
and was able to fix up the partition table so I could get the system
booted. This is a great utility by the way and is worth at least 
2*1024
times the price (free).

> 
> I'm now leaning towards 2 primary partitions.  Thanks a lot for the advice.  
Now
> that you mention it, I do remember reading quite a few stories of NT
damaging
> OS/2 installs.  Of course, that might have been a "feature" rather than a
bug.
> 

<sacasm>
I believe that it is called a "feature", for anyone else it would
be a computer virus and the FBI would be called in to arrest
anyone guilty of distributing it.
</sarcasm>

Lorne Sunley

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From: pcgodda@freeuk.com                                04-Nov-99 07:49:10
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: "Paul Goddard" <pcgodda@freeuk.com>

Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to Win98 (FAT16) so
that the longnames are prserved?  I am using Warp 3 and am reluctant to
apply any fixpacks owing to bad experiences in the past.


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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                04-Nov-99 05:39:01
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 07:49:21 GMT, Paul Goddard wrote:

>Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to Win98 (FAT16) so
>that the longnames are prserved?  I am using Warp 3 and am reluctant to
>apply any fixpacks owing to bad experiences in the past.

There is a VFAT IFS driver around, which has some limitations, but should
work well enough to do what you want.  Just search for VFAT at
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/.



 - Mike

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From: dbongo@ibm.net                                    04-Nov-99 14:54:26
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT

From: dbongo@ibm.net

Traditionally, I install OS/2 in it's own dedicated boot partition.  And use a
separate partition for applications.  (e.g. OS/2 on C:, Smartsuite, etc. on
D:)
That forces the use of a logical drive, which would be potentially visible to
NT.  Is there a way to hide it?  (I can leave a nice little 2GB FAT partition
on
the disk to share data.  That's not a problem, so I could eliminate NT needing
HPFS drivers.)  Or does it not even need hiding?

And I already downloaded DFSEE.  I figure the more tools I have, the safer
I'll
be trying to set this thing up.

Again, thanks for the advice.

Dave


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From: dbongo@ibm.net                                    04-Nov-99 15:08:16
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT

From: dbongo@ibm.net

In <3823A058.6F0BFFB2@ibm.net>, Douglas Houck <houck@ibm.net> writes:
>To answer your first set of questions, the easiest, most reliable way is
>to have a FAT partition that you send zipped files back and forth to.
>This allows for long file names from both NT and OS/2.
>

That's the current plan.  I didn't realize it would/could be dangerous
to get the multiple FS thing going on.

>The other method is to put NT in a FAT partition, OS/2 in a HPFS
>partition and get the NT 3.51 PINBALL.SYS file along with HPFS_NT.EXE.
>This allows NT to read and write to the HPFS partitions.  My experience
>is to use OS/2's fdisk and format to make all partitions and
>formatting.  Also, NT won't like any HPFS partition greater than 8 gb.
>

I don't have NT 3.51, and don't know where to find a copy of PINBALL.SYS.
But since I'm leaning towards just using a shared FAT partition, I shouldn't
need it.

>I have about 10 machines running NT in the primary and OS2 in the
>logical partition and have found it to work successfully.  I do try and
>keep 32 bit NT programs on a FAT or NTFS partition.
>
>If you have any more questions let me know.
>

Thanks for the advice.  I may just hide them from each other on primary
partitions, rather than screw around with all this potentially dangerous
stuff.  You have had no problems with NT trashing your HPFS partitions?
I ask because I always keep my applications on a separate partition from
my OS. (Well, OS/2 stuff, anyways.  Windows seems to like 1 big C: partition,
and won't stand for multiple partitions.  Too many things force themselves
onto C:)

Thanks for the advice.

Dave

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          04-Nov-99 15:07:17
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <5UaU3.270$3g.4922@nnrp4.clara.net>
	   pcgodda@freeuk.com "Paul Goddard" writes:

> Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to
> Win98 (FAT16) so that the longnames are prserved?  I am using
> Warp 3 and am reluctant to apply any fixpacks owing to bad
> experiences in the past.

Yes.  Zip them using an EA-aware OS/2 version of PKZip's utility,
or a functional equivalent.  Make a FAT16 floppy the target.  If
the output is bigger than one disk will hold, Zip will overflow
it onto as many disks as it takes.  At the other end, use native
versions of the same zipping software to unpack everything.  Be
sure to number your (many?) floppies carefully.  ;-)
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          05-Nov-99 08:15:11
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 07:49:21 GMT, Paul Goddard wrote:

:>Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to Win98 (FAT16) so
:>that the longnames are prserved?  I am using Warp 3 and am reluctant to
:>apply any fixpacks owing to bad experiences in the past.
:>
:>

I'm sure I've read here that the easiest way would be to zip up
the files and then unzip them on the Win98 machine.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: pcgodda@freeuk.com                                05-Nov-99 15:29:10
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:08
Subj: Does HPFS need LBA?

From: "Paul Goddard" <pcgodda@freeuk.com>

I upgraded my computer a couple months ago, the old hard drive is now the
secondary. Its 2.6-GB contain an extended partition which has a 1,3 GB-HPFS
logical drive at its beginning. Recently I created a 900 MB logical drive at
the end of this partition and tried to FAT format this but neither fdisk nor
partition magic version 2 would let me do this as it was outside the
1024-cylinder limit. Partion magic does offer me the HPFS alternative but
this partition is to be accessed by Win98.
Looking at my BIOS settings it appears that LBA is not used on this drive.
the BIOS does not want me to change the settings to LBA if I do I still get
the error message when I try to format and, on boot, the capacity of the
drive is displayed as about 500 MB but data access in unaffected. This did
happen when I used the drive on my old computer but then I did have a 200-MB
FAT  logical drive at the end of the physical drive and I was able to use
the 2.6-GB capacity of the drive.
I think I have enough space on my primary drive to copy the 1.3-GB, and then
remove all the partitions on my secondary drive, try getting LBA to work,
repartitioning and reformatting. Or, if Win98 does not need LBA, I could try
using its version of fdisk to create a 900-MB logical drive at the end of
the physical drive. I just wonder if this is safe since Win98 does not
recognise HPFS drives.
Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Paul.


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          05-Nov-99 20:36:28
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:49:21, "Paul Goddard" <pcgodda@freeuk.com> a crit 
dans un message:

> Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to Win98 (FAT16) so
> that the longnames are prserved?  I am using Warp 3 and am reluctant to
> apply any fixpacks owing to bad experiences in the past.

Use Infozip's ZIP and UnZIP (and WinZip, for Win98) to package the files in
OS/2, then unpackage them into the files structure on Win98. You can 
repackage them with WinZip to bring the long filenames back to OS/2.

However, I've just been doing a lot of work that requires some Win98 tools,
on long file name files, and have just discovered that Henk Kelder's last 
FAT32.IFS drivers do a great job of making FAT32 partition files visible 
for both read/write under OS/2. You can make a small extended partition, 
convert it to FAT32, and once Henk's drivers are loaded you can do all the 
ordinary drag/drop or other procedures on these files without any problem. 
This is a lot quicker than doing the zip/unzip stuff on each side.

I've just run about 15,000 files back and forth in multiple steps and not 
only did all the data transfer perfectly, but it didn't slow my system down
the way the earlier builds of FAT32.IFS did.


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Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: sidbury@cs.uofs.edu                               05-Nov-99 19:02:28
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Laptop Installation problems

From: Dick Sidbury <sidbury@cs.uofs.edu>

I have a gateway solo 9300 and am trying to install warp 4.

My configuration:
PII/366
160mb ram
18gb disk partitioned via partition magic as 4 partitions:
	1 8mb partition at the beginning of the disk for boot manager
	1 4gb primary partition (fat32 for win98se)
	1 2gb primary partition will be formatted hpfs for warp 4
	1 extended partition of 12gb for data, etc
ati rage mobility video w 8mb ram (mach 64 2d / rage pro 3d)
ls-120 as my a: drive
atapi dvd rom
built in usb
linksys etherfast 10/100 pcmcia nic
built in 3com mini pci type 3b data fax modem
ESS Maestro internal sound card
internal 3com mini pci type 3b data fax modem

I couldn't find the floppies for the install so I made them from the
CDRom which is very old -- I got warp 4 within a month of when it came
out.
I downloaded the new ide (>8.? hard disk, ls-120, etc)  idedasd.exe file
and
made the recommended changes to my install 1 floppy.

I booted up with the install disk.  After inserting disk 1 and the logo
screen
coming up the following message appeared:

##1000:2ebf - 0002:2ebf.
60000, 2008

068066a
Internal revision 9.023, 95/11/07
The system is stopped.  REcord all of the above information
and contact your service representative.

Any suggestions?

dick
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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               05-Nov-99 20:22:25
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: Laptop Installation problems

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <38237031.C9A2F2D6@cs.uofs.edu>, on 11/05/99 
   at 07:02 PM, Dick Sidbury <sidbury@cs.uofs.edu> said:


Welcome to the wonderfull world of IBM LS-120 support.

You CAN'T BOOT FROM IT as drive A.

If you don't have a floppy drive to use as drive A, then consider yourself
screwed.

I am in the same boat...but I have a floppy drive.  Can only use my LS-120
to boot PC-DOS, Windows, and Linux.

Roland

>I have a gateway solo 9300 and am trying to install warp 4.

>My configuration:
>PII/366
>160mb ram
>18gb disk partitioned via partition magic as 4 partitions:
>	1 8mb partition at the beginning of the disk for boot manager
>	1 4gb primary partition (fat32 for win98se)
>	1 2gb primary partition will be formatted hpfs for warp 4
>	1 extended partition of 12gb for data, etc
>ati rage mobility video w 8mb ram (mach 64 2d / rage pro 3d) ls-120 as my
>a: drive
>atapi dvd rom
>built in usb
>linksys etherfast 10/100 pcmcia nic
>built in 3com mini pci type 3b data fax modem
>ESS Maestro internal sound card
>internal 3com mini pci type 3b data fax modem

>I couldn't find the floppies for the install so I made them from the
>CDRom which is very old -- I got warp 4 within a month of when it came
>out.
>I downloaded the new ide (>8.? hard disk, ls-120, etc)  idedasd.exe file
>and
>made the recommended changes to my install 1 floppy.

>I booted up with the install disk.  After inserting disk 1 and the logo
>screen
>coming up the following message appeared:

>##1000:2ebf - 0002:2ebf.
>60000, 2008

>068066a
>Internal revision 9.023, 95/11/07
>The system is stopped.  REcord all of the above information
>and contact your service representative.

>Any suggestions?

>dick

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From: eranro@my-deja.com                                05-Nov-99 23:35:08
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media

From: eranro@my-deja.com

My feelings exactly, it all smels to Syquesty... Wait to see if they
are still around next year.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               06-Nov-99 01:59:03
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: Iomega bootable zip disk

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

 
>> anyone know if creating a bootable 100 meg Zip disk is doable?

Think I have seen tool for that at BMT in the 15 USD price-range. 


Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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