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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                29-Oct-99 19:55:16
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: SPAM technical question

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Is it possible to reach the abuse@ department if a spam carries only a domain
number?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    30-Oct-99 00:27:11
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 02:54:29, "Don Thimsen" <don@DTSsoftware.com> 
wrote:

> You're right.  This OS/2 system doesn't have TCP/IP installed -
> NetBEUI and 802.2 only.

Ok. More info.

A while ago I bought a replacement machine for my main OS/2 machine. I
installed it on my network with a different name while I tested 
everyting, then changed the machines over. 

For practical and sentimental reasons I wanted to keep the name of the
ORIGINAL machine, so I needed to alter the 'identity' of the new one 
(actually, I'm writing this on it!)

I keep a logbook for every machine I have. I have looked up all I did 
to change it over. Here it is (exhaustive, expunging ALL trace of the 
old name). Some are not applicable (e.g. if you don't have TCP/IP 
installed):

1. Change HOSTNAME environment variable in CONFIG.SYS, also in 
\OS2\BOOT\CONFIG.*

2. Updated host names in \MPTN\ETCD\HOSTS.

3. Updated IP address in \MPTN\BIN\SETUP.CMD.

4. Changed machine name in COMPUTERNAME= line in \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI.

5. Changed HOSTNAME in \OS2\ARCHIVES\0?\2 (that's all the archived 
CONFIG.SYS files; the file number may differ for you). The directories
0? are of course (0X,01,02,03).

6. Changed "SysName" key in \MPTN\ETC\SNMP.INI.

7. Changed name  in \IBMINST\RSP\LOCAL\OS2PEER.RSP, and in 
TCPAPPS.RSP.

8. Changed name in \OS2\INSTALL\NPCONFIG.CFG (twice).

9. Changed name in \IBMINST\TABLES\NPCONFIG.CFG (twice).

10. Changed IP address in same files in steps 7 to 9.

11. Changed IP address in \MPTN\BIN\MPTCONFG.INI.

Note that some of these are binary .INI files and need a .INI editor. 
Also that the stuff in the install directories might matter on a 
reinstall or upgrade; or it might not!

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          30-Oct-99 09:13:22
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: Help with helps

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:23:57 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

:>"Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> said:
:>
:>>Go to Hobbes and do a search for DS4PM it makes working with
:>>these disk images painless.
:>
:>Thanks.  I hope you're right.  I haven't fathomed, yet, why anyone would
want to
:>put a file inside dsk, then that inside a zip, then unzip it, then un-dsk it 
to
:>a floppy then move it from the floppy back again onto the hard drive.  Its a
:>whole lot of silly fooling around if you ask me.
:>
:>Jim L
:>Remove XX from address to Email
:>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
:>
:>

Whoops, I jumped into thread halfway through (I often get
replies to posts up to a week before the original question
from my server) I didn't get the scale of the problem until
you responded to me. What Warped person puts a dsk
in a zip in a dsk in a zip? Must have been on something!

Hope you get it worked out

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   30-Oct-99 00:59:17
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-ef9dS6w9nBcb@dt143n21.tampabay.rr.com> -
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:19:35 GMT writes:

Hello Buddy

Thanks a lot fot the response. This is exactly the precise information I am
looking for

:> will just about guarantee you'll see the difference immediately. I popped
:>in an old 16MB in mine and the performance jumped, and so far I don't feel 
:>the need to increase it again.
:>

Will any 72 pin Simm work or does the simm have to have a certain speed? And
to think that I gave away a couple of 16 meg simms when I upgraded my computer
memory.

:>
:>> 
:>> Am I to understand that if a print job produces postscript output that is
:>> greater than 4 megs per page the printer won't print? I picture a process
:>> something like this:
:>>      -an order is given to print a file
:>>      -The file is dumped to the spooler
:>
:>No, first the application that does the printing sends the data file to the
:>Printer Driver, based on settings in the Printer Object.
:>
:>You can speed up bottlenecks that occur at this stage by changing your 
:>CONFIG.SYS setting to:
:>
:>SET PRINTMONBUF=1512,134,134 (for instance, if your printer is on parallel 
:>port LPT1) or even
:>SET PRINTMONBUF=2048,134,134
:>if you've got plenty of RAM and do a lot of printing. (I do both and have 
:>2048.)
:>

I've always had this setting (2048) in my config.sys.

:>
:>>      -The printer driver produces postscript output which is dumped to the
:>> printer's memory
:>>      -when a page is recieved into printer memory, the printer begins to
print
:>
:>No, the PS data stream has to be composed into a page of rasterized output 
:>first. That's where the builtin printer memory becomes useful. If there's 
:>not enough printer memory, the job has to be rasterized piecemeal and this 
:>makes it very very slow.
:>

This just goes to show how wrong one can be. Thanks for the illumination.


:>Some color pages might take 4 minutes. I haven't timed it, and wouldn't be 
:>shocked if I had to wait 4 minutes for color output. I've worked with 
:>larger printers where we all went to lunch after sending the job to the 
:>printer, and sometimes it was still cranking the paper feed when we got 
:>back.
:>
:>The Optra 40 uses "photo quality" ink cartridges if you want to do 
:>hexacolor, and I haven't gotten those to try out. I would be willing to bet
:>everything gets much slower when they're being used.
:>
:>

I haven't felt the need to try photo quality. I am more than satisfied with
the standard 600 DPI output.

:>> 
:>> I guess I will contact Lexmark and see what driver they suggest for PCL
mode.
:>
:>Use the Lexmark Optra Color 1200 driver, inside the PCL5 package. I don't 
:>know why IBM or Lexmark didn't show a separate Color 40 driver, but this 
:>one works the same.
:>

I just heard back from Lexmark and they suggested the HP 1600c

:>
:>If you can't find the drivers write to me and I'll mail you what I'm using.
:>

No need. I already have the PCL5 drivers installed but thanks for the kind
offer.

:>Good luck,
:>
:>Buddy
:>
:>Buddy Donnelly
:>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
:>
:>

BTW what basdev print driver are you using - The standard print01.sys or the
bidi driver par1284.sys. Do you think the bidi driver should help performance?
I have tried both (currently using the bidi driver) and don't really notice
much difference other than not being able to use the markvision utility with
print01.sys. If you are using the bidi driver what mode is the output port in?
Mine is in nibble. 

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net
 

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From: cocke@ibm.net                                     29-Oct-99 20:51:06
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@ibm.net>

On 29 Oct 1999 19:51:58 GMT, Jim Trexler wrote:

>> To change the peer name, the only thing that needs to be changed (for
>> warp 3 or 4 peer)is the computername= line in \ibmlan\ibmlan.ini.  I've
>> done it dozens of times at work.  You may need to net stop req and
>> restart it for the change to take effect.
>
>  i've done this, too.
>
>> 
>> One loud word of warning that I had to learn the hard way - do NOT do
>> this on WSeB!
>> 
>
>  uh oh!  i've just rcvd wseb, what happened when you did this????  i do
>this occasionally but haven't on wseb yet.
>
>  jim
>
>[there are no a's in my real address!]

"Server service could not start" (or something very like that).  
You MUST use the "OS/2 LAN services installation/confituration" utility,
even if you're only changing the machine name.

If you assume the worst when installing a brand new product, you can go 
thru a whole bunch of complete WSeB installs like this, without ever 
realizing exactly what the cause is....  Just like I did.


Note to anyone coming in in the middle of this thread - the above 
pertains to WSeB (Warp 4.5), not Warp 3 or 4.



========================================================================
Member: DNRC            Watcher: Babylon 5              User: OS/2 Warp

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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     30-Oct-99 01:08:27
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: GA-71X and Warp Memory Detection

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

In <38199725.E29D475@isomedia.com>, "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> 
writes:
--snip--
>The only way this can be fixed is for the BIOS vendor to fix their BIOS
>bug.  The BIOS vendors *claim* to support OS/2 on their website.  We
>just have to keep at them AND the motherboard vendors until this is
>fixed.

David,

Can this "problem" be described in a way that improves the odds of it
being detected?  I ask because I've only heard it described in terms of
OS/2.

If the "test" involves installing OS/2 and seeing what happens, it might
be a little difficult to get BIOS vendors to check it.

If the problem can be demonstrated by simply booting OS/2 from a set of 
borrowed Installation diskettes, the odds improve.

OTOH, if it could be described completely in terms of BIOS calls (e.g.
"INT 15h Function 0DEh returns 1234h instead of 4321h"), it could even
be checked by people running Linux, DOS, and MSWinXX systems.

Jes' a thought...


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          30-Oct-99 10:03:17
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On 29 Oct 1999 01:03:28 GMT, Annie K. wrote:

:>On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:33:05, "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu> wrote:
:>
:>:I've searched the southsoft web site, I have seen no download for 2.1.  Any
:>:help?
:>
:> See http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/
:>
:> PmMail doesn't belong to Southsoft anymore.
:>
:>-- 
:>Klaatu barada nikto

I got my copy off Hobbes/Incoming

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: qgebhe@forno.eg.net                               30-Oct-99 02:21:11
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: New Search Engine  8577

From: qgebhe@forno.eg.net

Brand new search engine.
http://www.linkgrinder.com

Brand new search engine.
http://www.linkgrinder.com
vmfvnyrchooubqkfrrtusbjkimrugqodkyoijsttihtejtwymywqqdnklqrhgiodrlgferlyynptcuy
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From: bdavis@fn.net                                     30-Oct-99 03:58:08
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: internet security and warp4

From: bdavis@fn.net (Brian Davis)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:58:51, "Daniel Enright" 
<wishIcould@no.spam.for.me> wrote:

> Hey,
> 	I was wondering, I have warp4 client, and fixpack 11, is there any
> other upgrades I should be doing for internet security. (note: I use dial
> other internet providers application.)   Such as in win9x crap dial up
> networking you have to do dial up networking upgrades or someone will take
> over your computer type thing(coming from my <shudder> tech support days).  
> Is there any security patches for os/2?
> 	Is there any daemons or anything which are loaded with the os/2 warp
> 4 client which should be disabled?  Such as in the linux world where you
have
> to disable all that extra stuff (such as a telnet server).
> 	And finally is there any extra software (freeware preferably open
> source) which is a recommened add on for home users who are paranoid.
> 
> Cheers,
> Daniel
> 
> 

You might take a look at

http://www.horgen.net/rem/software/

and download the TCP/IP Portscanner and run the
portscanner on your system to see if you have
any open ports. Good luck.

Brian Davis (bdavis@fn.net)

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From: August.Abolins@613-100.m-net.axe...               30-Oct-99 04:04:00
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: 2 Adaptec SCSI's compatible?

Message sender: August.Abolins@613-100.m-net.axess.com

From: August.Abolins@613-100.m-net.axess.com (August Abolins)

I was thinking of adding an Agfa SnapScan 1236s (SCSI) scanner to a long-time
old 486dx2-50 (32meg), Warp 3 redspine (no fixpaks) system.  The PC already
features a Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card which features an Adaptec
AHA-15xxSomething, which  controls the SCSI cdrom unit.

The scanner comes along with a SCSI card.  It apparently is an Adaptec
AVA-1505.

Does anyone know if this combination of dual host adapters may not be
compatible?


 .aa.
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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          30-Oct-99 13:50:20
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: WIN-OS2 files leftover

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

Hi,

I've just removed WIN-OS2 from my system with selective uninstall
but noticed it didn't remove all the files, directories and entries in the
config.sys. I manually removed the WINOS2 directory but there are
still a couple of files in the MDOS directory. I also removed all the
references to C:\MDOS\WINOS2 from my config.sys and changed
protectonly=no to yes.

Can I safely remove the MDOS directory or is it still needed by some
things. Also can I remove the line:

SHELL=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\OS2\MDOS

And the Matrox DOS display driver lines:

DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VVGA.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMGAX64.SYS

Cheers

Wayne




******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: bmward@attglobal.net.where                        30-Oct-99 07:41:00
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 05:17:14
Subj: Re: Intel 740 AGP video card problem

From: bmward@attglobal.net.where (Bruce Ward)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:45:34, bmward@attglobal.net.where (Bruce Ward) 
wrote:

SNIP 
> The problem is that after running a DOS Window, some OS/2 windows (not
> all) lose the pointer - it just becomes invisible when moved over the 
> window. It happens to the Win-OS/2 windows too.

Replying to my own post :-( - a correction. The problem appears after 
running a DOS full-screen session; not a window.
> 
> I'm not totally sure that I've tied down the symptoms properly (after 
> all I'm not getting it to happen right now when testing! :-( ), but 
> that's seems to be about the gist of it. Anyone solved the 
> "disappearing pointer" before?



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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk                         30-Oct-99 10:37:05
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 10:28:12
Subj: Traps Galore! :-(

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>

Can anyone shed any light on this one?

I keep getting traps, I've seen various C, D and E traps but all at
0168:fff536f0.

They appear with no warning, whether the computer is doing something or
not (usually within a couple of hours since last reboot). I even
restored a backup from July when it was nice and stable, so I'm hoping
it isn't software-related.

I'm guessing one of the bits of hardware is doing something stupid but
as yet I've got no clues as to which one. 

System is a K6II-400 with a Matrox G200 video card, Tekram DC390W SCSI
controller, AWE32 PnP soundcard, no-name ethernet card (which has been
in the machine for some time) with 128MB RAM.

Software is currently Warp4 with Fixpak 6, having restored it to that. 

Clues, anyone? Or any more info I need to provide?


Dave
-- 
mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!


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From: davek@clark.net                                   30-Oct-99 11:21:10
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Annie K. (piquant00@uswestmail.net) wrote:                            

:  PmMail doesn't belong to Southsoft anymore.                        

My reading of that is that someone else is handling the distribution
and support, but southsoft still owns and will continue to develop the
product.

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         30-Oct-99 11:41:09
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: internet security and warp4

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:58:51 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Enright wrote:
>	I was wondering, I have warp4 client, and fixpack 11, is there any
>other upgrades I should be doing for internet security. (note: I use dial
>other internet providers application.)   Such as in win9x crap dial up
>networking you have to do dial up networking upgrades or someone will take
>over your computer type thing(coming from my <shudder> tech support days).  
>Is there any security patches for os/2?

Not that it neccesarily helps you, but the OS/2 box that currently runs our
local LAN's Internet gateway hasn't had a security problem in well over 3
years.

For two and a half years it was a dedicated 28.8 connection, and for the past
6 (or 9) months it's been hooked up by cable modem 24/7.

Up until about 3 months ago it was running the stock OS/2 Warp 4 TCP/IP, then
we upgraded to the version of TCP/IP 4.1 released on the IBM web site.

I've never once heard of any security breech - not even a minor one.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      30-Oct-99 13:00:15
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:17
Subj: Re: WIN-OS2 files leftover

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <jnlargxonggarwc.fkfg8h0.pminews@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp>, "Wayne Bickell"
<wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> writes:

>I've just removed WIN-OS2 from my system with selective uninstall
>but noticed it didn't remove all the files, directories and entries in the
>config.sys. I manually removed the WINOS2 directory but there are
>still a couple of files in the MDOS directory. I also removed all the
>references to C:\MDOS\WINOS2 from my config.sys and changed
>protectonly=no to yes.
>
>Can I safely remove the MDOS directory or is it still needed by some
>things. Also can I remove the line:
>
>SHELL=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\OS2\MDOS
>
>And the Matrox DOS display driver lines:
>
>DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VVGA.SYS
>DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMGAX64.SYS

Yes to all if you're certain you don't need DOS support.  Keep in
mind that some video systems need to start a VDM session in order
to initialize properly.  If you run into trouble with your video 
you may have to back out of PROTECTONLY=YES and re-enable DOS 
support.  This shouldn't be a concern if you're only running in 
text mode.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      30-Oct-99 16:42:14
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Mike Ruskai [TLF] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 Does NT even support IP masquerading, with or without a 3rd party program?

WinNT4, nope.

Win2K, yes.

For WinNT4 you can get one of the many third party software (for example like
http://www.winroute.com). 

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          30-Oct-99 14:39:10
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: SPAM technical question

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 23:55:33, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

:Is it possible to reach the abuse@ department if a spam carries only a domain
:number?

 Use nslookup.exe to determine the domain of the particular IP number.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          30-Oct-99 14:42:00
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 11:21:20, davek@clark.net (David Kunz) wrote:

:Annie K. (piquant00@uswestmail.net) wrote:                            
:
::  PmMail doesn't belong to Southsoft anymore.                        
:
:My reading of that is that someone else is handling the distribution
:and support, but southsoft still owns and will continue to develop the
:product.

 I don't believe that's the case. Southsoft has given all that over to
Blueprint Software.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk                     30-Oct-99 15:09:20
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: OS/2 and ACPI

From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)

Hi all,

Is there ACPI support for Warp 4?


TIA

Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail address>-

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From: Geert.Stevens@ping.be                             30-Oct-99 17:29:16
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: Intel 740 AGP video card problem

From: Geert Stevens <Geert.Stevens@ping.be>

What is the AGP Aperture Size setting in your bios?
When I change from 64 to 128 I have the same problems as you have!

Geert

Bruce Ward schreef:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:45:34, bmward@attglobal.net.where (Bruce Ward)
> wrote:
>
> SNIP
> > The problem is that after running a DOS Window, some OS/2 windows (not
> > all) lose the pointer - it just becomes invisible when moved over the
> > window. It happens to the Win-OS/2 windows too.
>
> Replying to my own post :-( - a correction. The problem appears after
> running a DOS full-screen session; not a window.
> >
> > I'm not totally sure that I've tied down the symptoms properly (after
> > all I'm not getting it to happen right now when testing! :-( ), but
> > that's seems to be about the gist of it. Anyone solved the
> > "disappearing pointer" before?

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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               30-Oct-99 08:33:29
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:38:35 -0700, Jonathan Seder wrote:

>If you're feeling a little more adventurous, you could also go to a
>command prompt window and type 
>	nslookup home.netscape.com
>You should see somthing like this:
>	[C:\mydir]nslookup home.netscape.com
>	Server:  dns.my-isp.net
>	Address:  123.123.123.123

That's odd.   I tried that and got 

Server:  ts029d41
Address:  0.0.0.0

*** ts029d41 can't find www.netscape.com: No response from server

(but I don't have problem with Netscape 4.61 beta)


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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               30-Oct-99 08:34:22
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: Multiprocessor Support

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:41:29 -0700, Graham C. Norris wrote:

>d) For most purposes, they will be slower

Wrong.


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From: rcrane@attglobal.net                              30-Oct-99 15:28:12
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again

From: rcrane@attglobal.net (Richard A Crane)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:39:17, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> nospam@null (Richard A Crane) said:
> 
> >> If you'll read what I wrote (quoted above) you'll see that I DID REMOVE
the
> >> necessary files
> 
> >And therein is the problem?
> >Richard A Crane 
> >Check Copyright of this with the author or you may suffer litigation or 
> >embarrassment.
> 
> Are we supposed to be on the same subject?
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
> 
OK follow up to explain a failed witicism - "necessary 
files" are just that - necessary. Surely what you meant was 
the "unnecessary files"?

Yeah another case of poor communication with a lawyer I 
guess, take heart from the fact I was charging you for it :)

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au                               30-Oct-99 15:30:23
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: Help with helps

From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:23:57, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> Thanks.  I hope you're right.  I haven't fathomed, yet, why anyone would
want to
> put a file inside dsk, then that inside a zip, then unzip it, then un-dsk it 
to
> a floppy then move it from the floppy back again onto the hard drive.  Its a
> whole lot of silly fooling around if you ask me.
> 
Is not it not so we all get sick of os/2 and go to 
smallflopy where instead of fixing things they sell a new 
one? 

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: arelyea@vt.edu                                    30-Oct-99 11:06:15
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu>

On 29 Oct 1999 01:03:28 GMT, Annie K. wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:33:05, "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu> wrote:
>
>:I've searched the southsoft web site, I have seen no download for 2.1.  Any
>:help?
>
> See http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/
>
> PmMail doesn't belong to Southsoft anymore.
That's odd, since the Southsoft website still has lots of information
regarding PMMail 2.0

Tony.


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From: arelyea@vt.edu                                    30-Oct-99 11:09:15
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu>

I remember the first version of PMMail that I used was not made by SouthSoft.
 It was written by a couple of college students.  I thought that was cool
because at the time I was a college student writing software.  Then,
Southsoft entered the pictures (and StarDock for PMINews).  I wonder, might
blueprintworks be the original authors finally getting the resources together
to market their own products on a large scale?  Just a thought.

Tony.


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From: jpfost@uswest.net                                 30-Oct-99 09:23:00
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: OS2 Boots Itself

From: "Jeff Pfost" <jpfost@uswest.net>

This sounds like FUD to me; but my manager was in a meeting and someone
stated that 'OS/2 would boot itself every 49 days', so I get to research it.

I have never heard of anything like that, and I'm sure we've gone 49 days
without booting many of our machines. I didn't find anything from past
posts, and I was just wondering if anyone has any information.

We are running WARP V4 fixpack 5, although the person who made this
statement didn't specify an OS2 version, or CSD level.

Thanks.

Jeff
jpfost@uswest.net


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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 18:24:28
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: 2 Adaptec SCSI's compatible?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


August Abolins wrote:
> 
> I was thinking of adding an Agfa SnapScan 1236s (SCSI) scanner to a
long-time
> old 486dx2-50 (32meg), Warp 3 redspine (no fixpaks) system.  The PC already
> features a Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card which features an Adaptec
> AHA-15xxSomething, which  controls the SCSI cdrom unit.
> 
> The scanner comes along with a SCSI card.  It apparently is an Adaptec
> AVA-1505.
> 
> Does anyone know if this combination of dual host adapters may not be
> compatible?
> 
    AFAIK, yes.
    I have two SCSI adapters in my system, one an adaptec, the other a
Mylex. I see no reason why two adaptecs cannot work in the same system.

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 18:26:19
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: SPAM technical question

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to reach the abuse@ department if a spam carries only a
domain
> number?
> 
    While online, use either NSLOOKUP or HOST to resolve an IP number to
a name.

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 18:33:03
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: deleting os2?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


chary wrote:
> 
> This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2
(archive?
> drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to
> help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group.
> 
> There is a directory named C:\Diskettes. I'm wondering if it can be safely
> deleted. The folder is 103 megs, and it contains the subfolder Os2V3, with
~34
> megs. These files came with the system. Files are dated 1995. Os2 never will 
be
> used. This is an IBM Personal Computer 350-P133, MT6586-7uo, purchased
12/95.
> 
    Since you are running windows, that directory is utterly useless to
you. It's safe to delete it.
    You could ZIP the whole directory to someplace else, then delete the
directory. If after a while nothing bad happens, delete the ZIP file.



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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 18:41:08
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>

Hello,
    My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
both.
    I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
programs or drivers, done no system updates.
    If I use C-A-D, no problem. 


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sma at rtd dot com
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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 18:53:19
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


James Moe wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>     My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
> shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
> immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
> want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
> INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
> both.
>     I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
> programs or drivers, done no system updates.
>     If I use C-A-D, no problem.
> 
    I neglected to provide some system information:
warp 4 fp 10
tcpip v4.1 w/updates
peer ip8424
128 MB ram


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     30-Oct-99 19:16:24
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:29:37, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said:
> 
> >It's really hard for me to imagine you've been using OS/2 as
> >long as you have and can't fathom that the options listed
> 
> As I said, I have stayed as far away from command line ANYTHING as possible. 

> This is the first time, anywhere, I have seen command line switches referred 
to
> as SYNTAX.  Maybe that is common as fleas on a dog where you hang out, but
it is
> the only place I've seen it.  From what little I know about command line
stuff
> that long list of stuff would not fit on any command line anywhere - not
even
> half of it.  Therefore I thought it must be something unusual I'd never
heard
> of.  You see, not everybody eats, sleeps and breathes computer lingo.  I
don't
> use OS/2 because, as somebody said, I like the fact that it is difficult.  I 
use
> it do do things.  I had bootos2 in my computer archives well over a year
trying
> to make sense of its "instructions."
> 
> I dare say there are some disciplines in which I could think circles around
some
> computer geniuses.  But I would not ridicule them just because their
expertise
> is in a different field than mine.
> 
> And...  It's really hard for me to imagine it would require a specially
trained
> technical writer to simply say this "syntax" is the same thing as command
line
> switches.
> 
> This is the thing I hate about OS/2 the most.  The idea that you have to
think
> like a computer hacker to use it, and the idea that you're some kind of
freak if
> you don't.
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
> 

Good thing you weren't around in the early DOS days, when EVERYTHING 
was done this way (and, yes, it was called command line SYNTAX -> 
SYNTAX is a term refering to how to format a command). It would be 
very nice to have a GUI program to do what BOOTOS2 does, but there 
(currently) isn't one. I suggest that it would be very much to your 
advantage to LEARN how to use the command line. There are a LOT of 
excellent programs, written to be run from the command line, that 
require the correct command SYNTAX to run them (Henk Kelder's CHECKINI
program, is one of them, that I would not want to be without).

If you choose not to learn about the command line, that is your 
choice, but you are missing about half of the joys (and pain <g>) of 
using any operating system, if you don't learn to use it.

Just my C$.03 ($.02 US)...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     30-Oct-99 19:16:26
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: Traps Galore! :-(

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 09:37:11, "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" 
<noone@llondel.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Can anyone shed any light on this one?
> 
> I keep getting traps, I've seen various C, D and E traps but all at
> 0168:fff536f0.
> 
> They appear with no warning, whether the computer is doing something or
> not (usually within a couple of hours since last reboot). I even
> restored a backup from July when it was nice and stable, so I'm hoping
> it isn't software-related.
> 
> I'm guessing one of the bits of hardware is doing something stupid but
> as yet I've got no clues as to which one. 
> 
> System is a K6II-400 with a Matrox G200 video card, Tekram DC390W SCSI
> controller, AWE32 PnP soundcard, no-name ethernet card (which has been
> in the machine for some time) with 128MB RAM.
> 
> Software is currently Warp4 with Fixpak 6, having restored it to that. 
> 
> Clues, anyone? Or any more info I need to provide?
> 
> 
> Dave
> -- 
> mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk
> http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
> Give blood... Play Rugby!
> 

That sounds like you are having a problem with a memory chip. You 
could try removing, or replacing, memory (of course this depends on 
exactly how it is configured, and whether you have access to other 
memory, or not). It could be many other things, but start with that. 
Sometimes, it is sufficient to simply remove the memory, and put it 
back in (that scrapes any corrosion off of the contacts, which may be 
the problem). 

A couple of other things to look for: 
- Make sure the fans are all working (including one that may be on top
of the main processor), and that none of the air passages is blocked. 
You could, also have a buildup of dust, that is keeping excessive heat
around the electronic components.
- It is now fall, and the air in many homes, and offices, is beginning
to dry out. Dry air tends to cause static electricity to build up, and
that WILL cause funny problems on computers. If you are getting static
shocks (a static discharge, that you cannot even feel, will cause 
problems on computers, sometimes), try increasing the humidity in the 
area of the computer, or use one of those sprays (like you would use 
on dresses to eliminate static cling), to spray the area around the 
computer.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           30-Oct-99 19:20:25
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: OS2 Boots Itself

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:23:01, "Jeff Pfost" <jpfost@uswest.net> wrote:

> This sounds like FUD to me; but my manager was in a meeting and someone
> stated that 'OS/2 would boot itself every 49 days', so I get to research it.
> 
> I have never heard of anything like that, and I'm sure we've gone 49 days
> without booting many of our machines. I didn't find anything from past
> posts, and I was just wondering if anyone has any information.
> 
> We are running WARP V4 fixpack 5, although the person who made this
> statement didn't specify an OS2 version, or CSD level.
> 

This sounds like someone completely misunderstanding what
occurs when the built in "up time counter" overflows after about
49 days. If you monitor the counter it looks like OS/2 has done
a re-start (based on the up-time count).

I have clients that have had OS/2 servers and workstations that
have stayed running for over a year without a re-start.

They may have also confused Microsoft's Windows OSR2 
(a version of Win 95) with IBM OS/2.

The various Windows 9X systems also have this "up time counter"
overflow. The cause of Windows re-starting is rarely attributed to
the counter overflow as most installations find some other reason
to re-boot the Windows "operating system".

Lorne Sunley


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           30-Oct-99 19:23:25
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:41:17, James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>     My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
> shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
> immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
> want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
> INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
> both.
>     I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
> programs or drivers, done no system updates.
>     If I use C-A-D, no problem. 
> 

There is a APAR on this problem in the IBM APAR database.

The fix for it has been included in one of the MPTS fixpacks 
but I don't remember which one. If you running the original
MPTS distributed wiith Warp 4 (assuning that's the OS version)
you could apply WR8423 and WR8424 and it will likely cure the
problem.

Lorne Sunley

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           30-Oct-99 19:38:12
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:53:39, James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> James Moe wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> >     My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
> > shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
> > immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
> > want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
> > INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
> > both.
> >     I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
> > programs or drivers, done no system updates.
> >     If I use C-A-D, no problem.
> > 
>     I neglected to provide some system information:
> warp 4 fp 10
> tcpip v4.1 w/updates
> peer ip8424
> 128 MB ram
> 

The ip8424 is not a peer fixpack, those are only up to
IP8412. WR8424 is an MPTS fixpack and it should not be
used with TCP/IP 4.1. It is an update of the Version 4
TCP/IP stack.

The latest TCP/IP 4.1 stack is in the WR86XX series.

If you have TCP/IP 4.1 you should apply WR8610 for MPTS
and WR8620 (this requires the WR8610 MPTS refresh).

Lorne Sunley

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          30-Oct-99 19:41:06
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:06:31, "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu> wrote:

:On 29 Oct 1999 01:03:28 GMT, Annie K. wrote:
:
:>On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:33:05, "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu> wrote:
:>
:>:I've searched the southsoft web site, I have seen no download for 2.1.  Any
:>:help?
:>
:> See http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/
:>
:> PmMail doesn't belong to Southsoft anymore.
:That's odd, since the Southsoft website still has lots of information
:regarding PMMail 2.0

 I'll direct you and others with questions to the PmMail mailing list,
listar@rpglink.com, since there are folks there who know much more 
about it than I do.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          30-Oct-99 19:41:08
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:09:31, "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu> wrote:

:I remember the first version of PMMail that I used was not made by SouthSoft.
: It was written by a couple of college students.  

 Those two college students later formed Southsoft.

:I thought that was cool
:because at the time I was a college student writing software.  Then,
:Southsoft entered the pictures (and StarDock for PMINews).  I wonder, might
:blueprintworks be the original authors finally getting the resources together
:to market their own products on a large scale?  

 No, different folks.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               30-Oct-99 13:47:02
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: letoured@nospam.net

>> And while I have the attention of all you guys, what is the Bootos2
>> command to make a 2 disk boot set from the copy of OS2 that is drive "D"?  
>> -- Everything I've tried on three different machines always reports 'path
>> not found.'  

>This one IS documented: I insert a part of the explanation of the  SOURCE
>parameter

I'm still on square 1.01.

I read these instructions but there is still something missing in the
documentation because they are not clear.  There is no LAN involved, and
the second paragraph is not clear.

Is the user has to build a directory with all the files needed -- why not
just say copy the _name the set of disks_ to the hard drive;

Or is there one on a drive where OS2 is installed that has the filed. --
using D:\os2\boot  returns the error message; path no found. Which means
this user figured from the tone of the instructions that the directory
should already be on the drive.

See the problem from the view of a non-geeky user? 



>---------------------------------
>   Normally BOOTOS2 will prompt you for the Install disks
>   it needs.  However, if you installed OS/2 over a LAN
>   or equivalent redirected source, you can use the SOURCE
>   option to point to these redirected sources.  The value
>   of SOURCE is usually a standard CID directory structure,
>   as defined in "GG24-3780 : OS/2 V2.0 and V2.1 Remote
>   Installation and Maintenance".

>   Alternatively, SOURCE can point to a single directory
>   where all the required files are located.  This is the
>   usual format OS/2 CSD remote installs where all the
>   install disks are copied to a single directory.  You
>   could alternatively create a single directory that
>   contains only those files needed by BOOTOS2 and use the
>   SOURCE option so users won't have to worry about install
>   disks. 


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               30-Oct-99 13:52:00
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: OS2 Boots Itself

From: letoured@nospam.net

>This sounds like FUD to me; but my manager was in a meeting and someone
>stated that 'OS/2 would boot itself every 49 days', so I get to research
>it.

Wasn't there a news story several months ago where MS said they found a
bug that made Windoz boot every 49 days -- and of course the entire world
was completely amazed since no one anywhere has ever gotten Windoze to run
for 49 days.




>I have never heard of anything like that, and I'm sure we've gone 49 days
>without booting many of our machines. I didn't find anything from past
>posts, and I was just wondering if anyone has any information.

>We are running WARP V4 fixpack 5, although the person who made this
>statement didn't specify an OS2 version, or CSD level.

>Thanks.

>Jeff
>jpfost@uswest.net


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               30-Oct-99 15:54:22
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: letoured@nospam.net

>one. I suggest that it would be very much to your  advantage to LEARN how
>to use the command line. There are a LOT of  excellent programs, written
>to be run from the command line, that  require the correct command SYNTAX
>to run them (Henk Kelder's CHECKINI program, is one of them, that I would
>not want to be without).

This is completly missing the point. People are not refusing to learn. The
instructions for BootSO2 are not clear.   -- I can make Checkini work
without a flaw. I can't do that with Bootos2. 


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: erwintech@earthlink.net                           30-Oct-99 16:19:22
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: Dale Erwin <erwintech@earthlink.net>


letoured@nospam.net wrote:
> 
> >one. I suggest that it would be very much to your  advantage to LEARN how
> >to use the command line. There are a LOT of  excellent programs, written
> >to be run from the command line, that  require the correct command SYNTAX
> >to run them (Henk Kelder's CHECKINI program, is one of them, that I would
> >not want to be without).
> 
> This is completly missing the point. People are not refusing to learn. The
> instructions for BootSO2 are not clear.   -- I can make Checkini work
> without a flaw. I can't do that with Bootos2.
> 
> _____________
> Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

I downloaded it from hobbes, unzipped it, prepared my hard disk for a
maintenance
partition, coded the command and installed a maintenance partition in
about 2
hours a week ago.  It looked obvious to me (even though not explicit)
that those
are command line parameters and arguments.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas

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From: nospam@nowhere.com                                30-Oct-99 21:34:09
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: OS2 Boots Itself

From: nospam@nowhere.com  (Steve Myers)

There is an elapsed time counter in OS/2, the time since the last boot,
that turns over at about 49 days.  However, it does not cause the system to
boot.  I have run a Warp 4 (no fix packs) system used as a web server for
well over 49 days between boots.

-- Steve Myers

The E-mail addresses in this message are private property.  Any use of them
to  send  unsolicited  E-mail  messages  of  a  commerical  nature  will be
considered trespassing,  and the originator of the message will be  sued in
small claims court in Camden County,  New Jersey,  for the  maximum penalty
allowed by law.

In <WSES3.554$T92.35730@news.uswest.net>, "Jeff Pfost" <jpfost@uswest.net>
writes:
>This sounds like FUD to me; but my manager was in a meeting and someone
>stated that 'OS/2 would boot itself every 49 days', so I get to research it.
>
>I have never heard of anything like that, and I'm sure we've gone 49 days
>without booting many of our machines. I didn't find anything from past
>posts, and I was just wondering if anyone has any information.
>
>We are running WARP V4 fixpack 5, although the person who made this
>statement didn't specify an OS2 version, or CSD level.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Jeff
>jpfost@uswest.net
>
>

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                30-Oct-99 17:38:03
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>Good thing you weren't around in the early DOS days, when EVERYTHING  was
done
>this way

Oh, believe me, I was around.  I was programming in a number of languages,
when
the RS Model 1 was still used by quite a lot of people, including assembler
and
ML.  I've written my share of programs for DOS on PCs.  I've used command line
parameters a plenty.  I'm sick of it, ready to throw up.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                30-Oct-99 17:44:07
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

letoured@nospam.net said:

>I read these instructions but there is still something missing in the
>documentation because they are not clear. 

Sorry, documentation for free programs is SUPPOSED to be unclear.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                30-Oct-99 17:46:16
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

letoured@nospam.net said:

>There are a LOT of  excellent programs, written
>>to be run from the command line, that  require the correct command SYNTAX
>>to run them (Henk Kelder's CHECKINI program, is one of them, that I would
>>not want to be without).

I use CHECKINI regularly.  I click its icon.  I press enter.

And if you'll look, you'll find that the file "checkini.txt" is much more
clearly written than "bootos2.doc" and does NOT contain the word "syntax"
anywhere.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                30-Oct-99 18:00:07
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Floppies/Utilities again

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

rcrane@attglobal.net (Richard A Crane) said:

>> >> If you'll read what I wrote (quoted above) you'll see that I DID REMOVE
the
>> >> necessary files

>> Are we supposed to be on the same subject?

>OK follow up to explain a failed witicism - "necessary 
>files" are just that - necessary. Surely what you meant was 
>the "unnecessary files"?

Oh.  What I was saying was, I removed files that it was necessary to remove.  
They weren't just unnecessary.  They blocked the disk making process.  :-)

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                30-Oct-99 18:07:07
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: Help with helps

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> said:

>from my server) I didn't get the scale of the problem until
>you responded to me. What Warped person puts a dsk
>in a zip in a dsk in a zip? Must have been on something!

>Hope you get it worked out

Actually no.  The file under consideration holds the GRADD drivers.  It
doesn't
specifically support my Trident vid card, but maybe the generic version will
work with it.  I'm not sure the "maybe" is worth checking it out.  The only
problem I have with video is with artifacts in Netscape.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                30-Oct-99 18:11:27
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: SPAM technical question

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) said:

>Use nslookup.exe to determine the domain of the particular IP number.

Thanks

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                30-Oct-99 18:12:07
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: SPAM technical question

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> said:

>While online, use either NSLOOKUP or HOST to resolve an IP number

Thanks

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: bhk@dsl.co.uk                                     30-Oct-99 20:07:02
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Wesb Boot

From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly})

On Thursday, in article <3818d5ea_1@news1.prserv.net>
     Valheru@guesswhere.com "Valheru" wrote:

> FYI, I moved to Florida from Canada and some disks got broken during the
> move so please don't make assumptions you know nothing about. I did not know
> that this wasn't a binary group, sorry for asking for files.

Just in case you ever make this mistake again (of asking for binaries to
be posted to a discussion group), NO group is a binaries group unless it
is in one of the recognized *.binaries hierarchies (such as alt.binaries.*,
comp.binaries.*, etc.).  Whilst some groups not in these hierarchies may
tolerate the posting of binaries, or even (alt.mags.playboy) encourage
it, it is nevertheless regarded by most ISPs as a gross abuse of the 'Net
to post binaries anywhere else.  All binaries were moved into these
sub-hierarchies about 5--6 years ago to allow sysadmins readily to decide
whether or not to accept binary postings, without having to work on a
group-by-group basis.  (See the bincancel FAQ in n.a.n-a.u for further
detail, especially of a *few* exceptions to the rule.)

Therefore you (and anyone else who may be listening) ought to have known
that "this wasn't a binaries group": it HASN'T got the word in its title.

I *always* report posters of binaries to their ISPs; most ISPs will issue
a warning to the customer on the first such report, but some suspend or
terminate access immediately.  So don't even think of doing it :-)

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
    "But we're a university.  We /have/ to have a library!..."said Ridcully,
         "What sort of people would we be if we didn't go into the library?"
    "Students", said the Senior Wrangler, morosely. [TP: The Last Continent]

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From: whonea@codenet.net                                30-Oct-99 16:39:17
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:53:39, James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> James Moe wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> >     My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
> > shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
> > immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
> > want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
> > INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
> > both.
> >     I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
> > programs or drivers, done no system updates.
> >     If I use C-A-D, no problem.
> > 
>     I neglected to provide some system information:
> warp 4 fp 10
> tcpip v4.1 w/updates
> peer ip8424
> 128 MB ram

I think you may have back-leveled tcp/ip.  Latest PEER update is 
ip08412, the only xx08424 I know of is an MPTS (including tcp/ip 4.x) 
fix.  That would explain the IFNET crashes to a T.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                30-Oct-99 19:08:12
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Dale Erwin <erwintech@earthlink.net> said:

> It looked obvious to me (even though not explicit)
>that those are command line parameters and arguments.

One man's food is another man's poison.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: widvft@usa.net                                    30-Oct-99 23:16:28
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: FREE MONEY just for being online! YOU get paid! No investment needed!  

From: widvft@usa.net

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 23:29:01
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> 
> The ip8424 is not a peer fixpack, those are only up to
> IP8412. WR8424 is an MPTS fixpack and it should not be
> used with TCP/IP 4.1. It is an update of the Version 4
> TCP/IP stack.
> 
> The latest TCP/IP 4.1 stack is in the WR86XX series.
> 
> If you have TCP/IP 4.1 you should apply WR8610 for MPTS
> and WR8620 (this requires the WR8610 MPTS refresh).
> 

    Yes, I incorrectly gave the IP update number: it should be ip08410.
I have been running with this update as well as wr08610 (MPTS) and tcpip
v4.1 (latest) for several weeks now. The Peer update was the most recent
of several weeks ago. MPTS was updated months ago, as was tcpip.
    The trap I am getting started yesterday. I have not updated
anything, I have not installed anything, I have not removed anything. I
cannot recall any change to the system in the last week.


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: matt196@mindspring.com                            30-Oct-99 19:49:27
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Which Fixpack for Y2K?

From: Nelson and Satasha Williams <matt196@mindspring.com>

I'm currently running Fixpack 5, and I've read that the Y2K situation in
Warp 4.0 was taken care of in FixPack 4.  Now, I have 3 questions:

1.  Is this true, or do I need a higher FixPack?
2.  FixPack 10, 12, which one?
3.  Where can I find a list of what each FixPack does?


Nelson

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From: la2gca@deleteme.c2i.net                           30-Oct-99 23:31:05
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Reinstalling Warp 4

From: la2gca@deleteme.c2i.net (Svein Sandersen)

I decided to clean up my 1996 warp 4 installation, so I started from 
scratch.
Applied FP12, installed Netscape 2.02, TCP/IP 4.1, Java 1.1.8, latest 
DOSBOX, sb16 sound in winos2
But now I just cant remember where to go next. Do I have to install 
this win32s-thing before installing RealPlayer?

And what about MPTN? I have not done anything there yet.
What steps are neccessary to get the system updated?
I seem to remember going through several steps?

Indeed, it would be nice to have a cd with the whole thing updated and
ready to go!

I am about to install Communicator, but maybe its best to have 
RealPlayer installed first?

How about it guys?
Not easy to get all this stuff in the right order

Svein Sandersen

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               30-Oct-99 20:02:00
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: letoured@nospam.net

>I downloaded it from hobbes, unzipped it, prepared my hard disk for a
>maintenance
>partition, coded the command and installed a maintenance partition in
>about 2
>hours a week ago.  It looked obvious to me (even though not explicit)
>that those
>are command line parameters and arguments.

Okay. Lets assume I'm stupid since its not obvious to me. 

What is the command line needed to make boot disks from the version of OS2
that I have on Drive D.  --- I'm begining to think that maybe you guys
don't really know either and don't want anyone to know it.

_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 29-Oct-99 15:49:18
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: nospam@nospam.com

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:22:51, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> > Netscape 4.61:  The cache has started messing up in general just recently. 
 I've
> > cleared out both memory cache and disk cache, turned them off etc., but I
still
> > keep seeing web pages re-download over and over.
> 
> Try turning the caching back ON.
>
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> 
I'll take the opportunity to thank you and the IBM team for 
communicator 4.61. I'm not completely happy with it (drag and drop 
still works better with 2.02, which is also more stable), but it's a 
big leap forward from 4.04 and caching works *much* better than in 
2.02!:-) 

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    29-Oct-99 07:58:00
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

One other thing (I hope you're not insulted by the question, but it
needs to be asked): you did reboot after you made the changes didn't
you?

Graham.

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                29-Oct-99 11:22:28
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:15:51 GMT, Mark Mellin wrote:

>To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !!
>
>I'm looking to set up my Warp4 client with TCPIP 4.1
>as a "gateway" on a "cable modem'd" home lan.
>
>I wish to have access to printer resources, file
>systems, as well as sharing internet access between
>across OS/2, NT, and Win-9X.
>
>1) Do I *need* PEER ??  (I've already tried
>   installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the
>   installs craps out with "processing locked
>   files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD
>   boot partition has about 700Mb free...)
>   
>   I don't want Peer, I don't like IBM's clunky
>   slapped-together utility approach to product
>   integration - hell -it's a batch file away
>   from the DOS based utility installs....

What you need for printers and file resources is NetBIOS.  

Can't say I know what you're talking about with "DOS based utility
installs".

>2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy
>   Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks
>   objectives ??

You don't need either, but you get the most functionality going that route
(IP masquerading).  

Other alternatives include blind proxy programs (IGate), and SOCKS servers
(such as NEC's SOCKS5 server).

I used NEC's SOCKS5 server for a long time with my (now gone) cable modem,
then, when the InJoy Firewall product was released (I was told it was in
the making previously, and was waiting for a few months), I started using
that.  Faster, less CPU usage (on the server), more functionality.

>3) Are there any traps or pitfalls I should be
>   aware of ??

There are always traps and pitfalls in anything.  Without knowing your
level of experience, it's impossible to say which ones you might fall
into.

There's nothing obvious.

>4) Other than the obvious, is there any reason
>   I'd be better off using OS/2 Warp over NT
>   Workstation or Server as a gateway??

Does NT even support IP masquerading, with or without a 3rd party program?

>5) Why the heck couldn't I find any documentation
>   on the above :)

Because documentation of that scope would be too cumbersome.

The information is out there, in pieces, for the dedicated searcher to
find.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: idabill@orofino-id.com                            29-Oct-99 08:33:17
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: Warp 3 Connect and plug and play

From: "Bill Redifer" <idabill@orofino-id.com>

Thanks.
Bill
Graham C. Norris <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com> wrote in message
news:381926A7.138596FE@linkline.com...
> Warp 3 doesn't support PnP, which means that sometimes you get lucky and
> sometimes you don't. Your BIOS should have a setting on the PnP setup
> page for "PnP Aware OS Installed": try setting it to No if you haven't
> already.
>
> Graham.


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From: idabill@orofino-id.com                            29-Oct-99 08:36:24
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: Warp 3 Connect and plug and play

From: "Bill Redifer" <idabill@orofino-id.com>

What about Warp 4? (PnP support)
Graham C. Norris <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com> wrote in message
news:381926A7.138596FE@linkline.com...
> Warp 3 doesn't support PnP, which means that sometimes you get lucky and
> sometimes you don't. Your BIOS should have a setting on the PnP setup
> page for "PnP Aware OS Installed": try setting it to No if you haven't
> already.
>
> Graham.


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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             29-Oct-99 08:46:14
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: GA-71X and Warp Memory Detection

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


Frank Field wrote:
> 
> I've been casting around for ideas/strategies; I've got one of the new
> Athlon boards (the Gigabyte 71X) and, although OS/2 installs just
> swimmingly, it only detects a little over 64 megabaytes of the
> 256 megabytes installed.  Toggling the "Memory above 64 megs" flag
> in the BIOS to "OS2" makes things worse; then only 16 megs are
> found.
> 
> This does *NOT* seem to be restricted to the Gigabyte; I have gotten
> e-mails from people with Biostar and Soyo boards who also cite this,
> and there are usenet posts suggesting that it happens on MSI and FIC
> boards too - one of which uses the AMI BIOS instead of the Award.
> 
> I've posted e-mails to AMD and Gigabyte, to no avail (or, at least, with
> no response).  I even posted a PROBLEM.TXT to IBM.  Award makes
> it hard to contact them at all; they point you back to your board/system
> vendor.  Anyone got any other ideas about how I might proceed in trying
> to get this resolved?  Note that, this morning, I got a post from someone
> claiming that this is also a problem with NT4 SP5, but I can't confirm
> that yet.  I can say that it is *NOT* a problem for Win95/98).
> 
> Ideas, anyone???

The only way this can be fixed is for the BIOS vendor to fix their BIOS
bug.  The BIOS vendors *claim* to support OS/2 on their website.  We
just have to keep at them AND the motherboard vendors until this is
fixed.  BTW, I have seem people claim that that the ASUS K7M Athlon
motherboard works properly for OS/2 memory.  Can anyone confirm this? 
This motherboard is quite a bit different from the other motherboards
because it is 4-layer instead of 7-layer and does not follow the AMD
"Fester" reference design.  Also, Compaq and IBM are both selling Athlon
systems with their own proprietary motherboards in them.  Does anyone
have one of these with OS/2 yet who can update us about the amount of
OS/2 memory it finds?

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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             29-Oct-99 08:49:26
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: deleting os2?

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


chary wrote:
> 
> This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2
(archive?
> drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to
> help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group.
> 
> There is a directory named C:\Diskettes. I'm wondering if it can be safely
> deleted. The folder is 103 megs, and it contains the subfolder Os2V3, with
~34
> megs. These files came with the system. Files are dated 1995. Os2 never will 
be
> used. This is an IBM Personal Computer 350-P133, MT6586-7uo, purchased
12/95.
> 
> The folder is visible from Windows Explorer, I'd like to just delete it from
> there. Windows is the os that is being used. AFAIK, the drive is not
> partitioned, and Os2 was never actually installed (the computer isn't mine,
it's
> a friend's, and I haven't personally seen it).
> 
> Thanks for any help.

Well, from you post it's not possible to really know what this stuff
is.  It might be disk images for OS/2 v3 installation diskettes.  If so,
you should certainly delete them immediately if you do not have a valid
OS/2 v3 license.  If it's some other data, only you can determine if it
is valuable or not.

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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 29-Oct-99 15:49:15
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: nospam@nospam.com

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:32:21, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

> <99078729@brookes.ac.uk> said:
> 
> >You can pretty much forget os2.... support for that operating system is
> >dropping.
The problem is that there are currently no real alternatives. I've 
installed and used windows nt 4 and most recently BeOS 4.5, they are 
no match for OS/2 Warp 4.

> And that is why IBM has been releasing Fixpaks for years now? Not to
> mention server editions, etc. -- The real bottome line is that OS2 is
> still more advanced the Winoze anything. 
> 
> If you want to play games -- go windows. 
> If you want to get work done -- go OS2.
> If you want to be first with a system that still takes work -- go Linux.
Great summary. I'll just point out that if you want a decent looking, 
object-based, consistent and extensible GUI there's only one option 
out there, and that's of course OS/2's WPS. Also the help available in
the system, even through installation, beats windows, not to mention 
the BeOS. Linux is a unix and is as such not designed with a simple to
use or powerful GUI in mind (it's power is based on the command line 
and GUI comes from addons like X, which you can run under OS/2 if 
you'd like or need).

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 29-Oct-99 15:49:16
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: <nospam@nospam.com>

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 05:44:00, "Bones" <oskib@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks everyone for all of your valuable input. I must say that after
> reading everything I am TERRIFIED about actually trying to install any of
> the Win98 alternatives. It seems that so much can go wrong, I can just
> imagine hours and hours of frustrations. Perhaps waiting for Win2k is the
> best bet. I just really hate Win98. I just got this computer and I started
> getting the predictable crashes already. I used NT for a while on another
> system and it crashed as well, but at least when an application crashed, it
> didn't usually bring the whole operating system down with it.
> 
> I would like to switch to OS2 or Linux, but I don't have the technical
Learn about all the short-comings of OS/2 and see if they affect you, 
if not then choose OS/2. Some short-comings like poor unicode support 
will not be avoided by choosing linux, go with a professional unix, 
windows NT or the BeOS for this specific functionality. More native 
software is definitely available for linux, but OS/2 can run X and 
also win3.1 and win32s apps as well as DOS. The native software 
situation for OS/2 has improved a lot in recent years, and there are 
now at least two office suites (Star Office and Lotus Smartsuite), 
Communicator, and a feature rich news reader ProNews/2 (said to be the
best of all platforms). 

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 29-Oct-99 15:49:13
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: nospam@nospam.com

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:01:06, F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:

> Suddenly today I got this message:
> 
> =================
> Disk Error
> 
> The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
> be written to disk. The updates are
> being held to automatically retry the
> operation, but will be lost if the
> system is shutdown before correcting
> the problem.
> =================
> 
> What is this? How can I correct this? Is it bad to shutdown before
It happened to me soon after applying fp12 (i was previously at fp8) 
and the cause was that some or both of the system INI files had been 
corrupted by some accident/problem earlier.

You can correct this by booting to the command line, and replacing the
two files with backup copies from the OS2\ARCHIVES.

> resolving the problem? What will happen then???
There may be some tool(s) available to correct this before shutdown, 
but nothing seriously bad will happen from shutting down the system 
and rebooting to the command line.

> I tried CheckIni (Henk Kelder's) but with no results.
Yes, that didn't work here either. 

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: andrie@attglobal.net                              28-Oct-99 23:07:13
  To: rplyler@us.ibm.com                                31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Where can I get Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6)?

To: Bob Plyler <rplyler@us.ibm.com>
From: "Hans Andrieen" <andrie@attglobal.net>

Bob Plyler schrieb:

At first, sorry for my uggly english.

[...]
> >I need a copy of Microsoft C Compiler for OS/2 (version 6). Any
> >reference?
[...]
 
> You can get it from the DDK Developer Site.
> You have to register, but it's free.
>
> http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/ddk/

It could be that i'm stupid...

i was on this URL and found only 2 fields for putting in the password.
Now, how to get the asket for password?

Bye/2
Hans

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          29-Oct-99 16:19:17
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:57:24, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) a crit dans un 
message:
> I was hoping someone who has actual experience with this printer would 
> have responded so I could have a direct comparison.
> 
> 
> :>> Would adding more memory to
> :>> the base 4 megs speed up the processing?

I will just about guarantee you'll see the difference immediately. I popped
in an old 16MB in mine and the performance jumped, and so far I don't feel 
the need to increase it again.


> 
> Am I to understand that if a print job produces postscript output that is
> greater than 4 megs per page the printer won't print? I picture a process
> something like this:
>      -an order is given to print a file
>      -The file is dumped to the spooler

No, first the application that does the printing sends the data file to the
Printer Driver, based on settings in the Printer Object.

You can speed up bottlenecks that occur at this stage by changing your 
CONFIG.SYS setting to:

SET PRINTMONBUF=1512,134,134 (for instance, if your printer is on parallel 
port LPT1) or even
SET PRINTMONBUF=2048,134,134
if you've got plenty of RAM and do a lot of printing. (I do both and have 
2048.)


>      -The printer driver produces postscript output which is dumped to the
> printer's memory
>      -when a page is recieved into printer memory, the printer begins to
print

No, the PS data stream has to be composed into a page of rasterized output 
first. That's where the builtin printer memory becomes useful. If there's 
not enough printer memory, the job has to be rasterized piecemeal and this 
makes it very very slow.

Some color pages might take 4 minutes. I haven't timed it, and wouldn't be 
shocked if I had to wait 4 minutes for color output. I've worked with 
larger printers where we all went to lunch after sending the job to the 
printer, and sometimes it was still cranking the paper feed when we got 
back.

The Optra 40 uses "photo quality" ink cartridges if you want to do 
hexacolor, and I haven't gotten those to try out. I would be willing to bet
everything gets much slower when they're being used.


> 
> I guess I will contact Lexmark and see what driver they suggest for PCL
mode.

Use the Lexmark Optra Color 1200 driver, inside the PCL5 package. I don't 
know why IBM or Lexmark didn't show a separate Color 40 driver, but this 
one works the same.

PCL is good for speed, especially if you try, whenever you can, to use the 
built in printer fonts for your copy, or at least for drafts. Lexmark has 
TrueType versions of the printer fonts on the install CD, and if you 
install these in OS/2 you can select them for screen fonts, but the printer
will make use of its internal copies of these for printing. Much faster.

I bought the Optra 40 specifically to proof color PostScript files, 
however, and rely on a 1-color laser for my big text outputs.

If you can't find the drivers write to me and I'll mail you what I'm using.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: charybdis@MailAndNews.com                         29-Oct-99 17:18:13
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: deleting os2?

From: charybdis@MailAndNews.com (chary)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:49:52 -0400, "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>
wrote:

>chary wrote:
>> 
>> This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2
(archive?
>> drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able
to
>> help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group.
>> 
>> There is a directory named C:\Diskettes. I'm wondering if it can be safely
>> deleted. The folder is 103 megs, and it contains the subfolder Os2V3, with
~34
>> megs. These files came with the system. Files are dated 1995. Os2 never
will be
>> used. This is an IBM Personal Computer 350-P133, MT6586-7uo, purchased
12/95.
>> 
>> The folder is visible from Windows Explorer, I'd like to just delete it
from
>> there. Windows is the os that is being used. AFAIK, the drive is not
>> partitioned, and Os2 was never actually installed (the computer isn't mine, 
it's
>> a friend's, and I haven't personally seen it).
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>
>Well, from you post it's not possible to really know what this stuff
>is.  It might be disk images for OS/2 v3 installation diskettes.  If so,
>you should certainly delete them immediately if you do not have a valid
>OS/2 v3 license.  If it's some other data, only you can determine if it
>is valuable or not.

Thanks, David. Since those files came preinstalled via IBM, there's presumably
no problem with license. The only problem is that the hard drive is full and
the
space is needed. 

"Disk image", that's the term I was looking for. There would be nothing in
that
directory since os2 was never used or installed, so I'll take it that the
entire
directory can be deleted safely.

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          29-Oct-99 16:48:20
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: deleting os2?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:01:53, charybdis@MailAndNews.com (chary) a crit 
dans un message:

> This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2
(archive?
> drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to
> help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group.
> 
> There is a directory named C:\Diskettes. I'm wondering if it can be safely
> deleted. The folder is 103 megs, and it contains the subfolder Os2V3, with
~34
> megs. These files came with the system. Files are dated 1995. Os2 never will 
be
> used. This is an IBM Personal Computer 350-P133, MT6586-7uo, purchased
12/95.
> 
> The folder is visible from Windows Explorer, I'd like to just delete it from
> there. Windows is the os that is being used. AFAIK, the drive is not
> partitioned, and Os2 was never actually installed (the computer isn't mine,
it's
> a friend's, and I haven't personally seen it).

Those are used by the "Diskette Factory" to make separate disk copies of 
Warp and can safely be deleted, even if you're running OS/2.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    29-Oct-99 18:57:21
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace?

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Robert Dohrenburg (rdohrenburg@hotmail.com) wrote:

: Is it possible that this program/utility is replacing bloated parts of
: the OS? I remember OD1.X and OD2.0 did the contrary and my system lost
: performance.

	I don't think it does, I didn't see anything getting copied into 
the X:\OS2\*.* directories when I tried it out...


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From: furd@mit.edu                                      29-Oct-99 14:19:01
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: GA-71X and Warp Memory Detection

From: "Frank Field" <furd@mit.edu>

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:46:29 -0400, David T. Johnson wrote:

:>The only way this can be fixed is for the BIOS vendor to fix their BIOS
:>bug.  The BIOS vendors *claim* to support OS/2 on their website.  We
:>just have to keep at them AND the motherboard vendors until this is
:>fixed.

Suits me; I feel like I've fallen into the Cassandra mode anyway, just
repeatedly
posting this information every time I find a new site.  I also had the
thought
that this should be passed along to the AMD hardware watcher sites; for
example,
I let the guy who runs www.slota.com and the AMDZone site this fact, and he
posted it there in their news areas.  Someone at AMD, Award and/or the board
vendors must keep up with at least some of these sites.  Maybe it'll take
getting
someone like Tom's Hardware to post this as a problem.

Any other ideas?


Frank Field
furd@alum.mit.edu
O-


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From: fBeythien@gmx.de                                  29-Oct-99 16:22:19
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: fBeythien@gmx.de (Frank Beythien)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:28:53, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

Hello Ed,

as a long time and happy BOOTos2 user (back from the IBM internal OS/2
version 2.0 betas) I'm of course used to the documentation. From the 
beginning we were very happy to have such a tool, it was internally 
available even before the WPS was integrated into OS/2. So the 
question commandline versus Dialog options never occured. 

[...]
 
> And while I have the attention of all you guys, what is the Bootos2
> command to make a 2 disk boot set from the copy of OS2 that is drive "D"?  
> -- Everything I've tried on three different machines always reports 'path
> not found.'  

This one IS documented: I insert a part of the explanation of the 
SOURCE parameter

---------------------------------
   Normally BOOTOS2 will prompt you for the Install disks
   it needs.  However, if you installed OS/2 over a LAN
   or equivalent redirected source, you can use the SOURCE
   option to point to these redirected sources.  The value
   of SOURCE is usually a standard CID directory structure,
   as defined in "GG24-3780 : OS/2 V2.0 and V2.1 Remote
   Installation and Maintenance".

   Alternatively, SOURCE can point to a single directory
   where all the required files are located.  This is the
   usual format OS/2 CSD remote installs where all the
   install disks are copied to a single directory.  You
   could alternatively create a single directory that
   contains only those files needed by BOOTOS2 and use the
   SOURCE option so users won't have to worry about install
   disks. 
--------------------


CU/2
Frank
-- 
Frank Beythien   fBeythien@gmx.de

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From: jim@aaamnw.net                                    29-Oct-99 19:51:29
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Warp 4 - How do you change the computer name?

From: Jim Trexler <jim@aaamnw.net>

> To change the peer name, the only thing that needs to be changed (for
> warp 3 or 4 peer)is the computername= line in \ibmlan\ibmlan.ini.  I've
> done it dozens of times at work.  You may need to net stop req and
> restart it for the change to take effect.

  i've done this, too.

> 
> One loud word of warning that I had to learn the hard way - do NOT do
> this on WSeB!
> 

  uh oh!  i've just rcvd wseb, what happened when you did this????  i do
this occasionally but haven't on wseb yet.

  jim

[there are no a's in my real address!]

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From: Valheru@guesswhere.com                            29-Oct-99 16:05:12
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Wesb Boot

From: "Valheru" <Valheru@guesswhere.com>

Thanks, Happy Halloween by the way. I thought that IBM would want me to buy
it all over again and I don't feel like dropping another 1000. Good info to
know :D


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From: jpfost@uswest.net                                 30-Oct-99 17:22:11
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: OS2 Boots Itself

From: "Jeff Pfost" <jpfost@uswest.net>

Lorne Sunley <lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-M1BKDfc3tI3F@tcpserver...
> On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:23:01, "Jeff Pfost" <jpfost@uswest.net> wrote:
>
> > This sounds like FUD to me; but my manager was in a meeting and someone
> > stated that 'OS/2 would boot itself every 49 days', so I get to research
it.
> >
> > I have never heard of anything like that, and I'm sure we've gone 49
days
> > without booting many of our machines. I didn't find anything from past
> > posts, and I was just wondering if anyone has any information.
> >
> > We are running WARP V4 fixpack 5, although the person who made this
> > statement didn't specify an OS2 version, or CSD level.
> >
>
> This sounds like someone completely misunderstanding what
> occurs when the built in "up time counter" overflows after about
> 49 days. If you monitor the counter it looks like OS/2 has done
> a re-start (based on the up-time count).
>

Thanks. I'm sure that's it.


Jeff
jpfost@uswest.net


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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          31-Oct-99 01:11:00
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Wesb Boot

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <19991030.1907.28711snz@dsl.co.uk>
	   bhk@dsl.co.uk "Brian {Hamilton Kelly}" writes:

> [...]  All binaries were moved into these sub-hierarchies about
> 5--6 years ago to allow sysadmins readily to decide whether or
> not to accept binary postings, without having to work on a
> group-by-group basis.  [...]

And some ISPs use the fact of a group being a *.binaries.* to set
its expiry period shorter than other groups, so as to free up ISP
storage ASAP.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          31-Oct-99 03:20:16
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: Wesb Boot

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:05:25, "Valheru" <Valheru@guesswhere.com> a crit 
dans un message:

> Thanks, Happy Halloween by the way. I thought that IBM would want me to buy
> it all over again and I don't feel like dropping another 1000. Good info to
> know :D

IBM, for all their corporate faults, are beautiful on this issue. We had a 
Warp4 CD that was unreadable and they overnighted a fresh one to us without
even taking the (expected) time to get us to fax them proof of ownership.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          31-Oct-99 03:16:00
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 00:59:34, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) a crit dans un 
message:

> 
> Will any 72 pin Simm work or does the simm have to have a certain speed? And
> to think that I gave away a couple of 16 meg simms when I upgraded my
computer
> memory.

Every oddball SIMMs I have works, for whatever that's worth. (I still have 
the 16MB strip I paid $480 for, actually, and it doesn't work any better 
than the "comes with" junk I've accumulated since.)


> 
> I've always had this setting (2048) in my config.sys.

It's worth playing with, especially on <64MB systems, I think. I've had 
configurations where 512 worked just about identically to anything larger.

> 
> I haven't felt the need to try photo quality. I am more than satisfied with
> the standard 600 DPI output.

It's pretty darned good, and for my purposes, just proofing PS output to 
make sure I haven't left out something glaring, it's extremely 
cost-effective. Smooth paper adds plenty of extra quality.

> 
> I just heard back from Lexmark and they suggested the HP 1600c

Hm. Did you talk to a real OS/2 person at Lexmark? They've got at least one
who really knows his stuff.

Anyway, I've used the Optra Color 1200 and haven't had a single problem 
with it.


> 
> :>
> :>If you can't find the drivers write to me and I'll mail you what I'm
using.
> :>
> 
> No need. I already have the PCL5 drivers installed but thanks for the kind
> offer.

There are differences between the IBM and Lexmark sourced drivers, by the 
way. They don't use compatible (comparable, that is) version numbers, so 
it's a matter of installing the driver and seeing that it works for you. 
That's been true of their PCL5 drivers for the nearly 4 years I've used a 
Lexmark laser.



> 
> BTW what basdev print driver are you using - The standard print01.sys or the
> bidi driver par1284.sys. Do you think the bidi driver should help
performance?
> I have tried both (currently using the bidi driver) and don't really notice
> much difference other than not being able to use the markvision utility with
> print01.sys. If you are using the bidi driver what mode is the output port
in?
> Mine is in nibble. 

For some reason I can't make BIDI work in WSeB, so I'm back to using 
PRINT01.SYS in flat polled action (no /IRQ, in other words.) The standard 
add-on BIDI package doesn't give me BIDI, the WSeB BIDI option doesn't work
as BIDI, and it ain't hardware because I can boot into Win98 without a 
single change and it sees the BIDI printer and drives it just fine. It's 
possible some resource is impinging on my DMA 3 assignment but I haven't 
found the OS/2 tools to track it down.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: sirgreys@*REMOVETHIS*sprint.ca                    30-Oct-99 21:58:15
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: SirGrey <sirgreys@*REMOVETHIS*sprint.ca>


James Knott wrote:

> Actually, 10Base2 (coaxial) cards are getting scarce.
>
> In article <3813BA3A.9DB71952@home.com>,
> Gary Dale <2822232030@home.com> wrote:
> >If you are running at 10M bps then you can probably use coaxial ethernet
> >cable. Almost all 10M cards have both coax and twisted pair connectors. If
> >you are wiring up a home or office, then go with Cat 5 twisted pair.
> >Otherwise, a simple coax network avoids the need for a hub. However, it is
> >worth noting that 10M hubs are dirt cheap these days, and even 100M hubs
> >can be reasonable.
> >
> >devlin wrote:
> >
> >> Hub not needed for networking two computers if you use a 4 wire
> >> ethernet cable.
> >>
> >> I am running my two computer network with one NIC card in each and one
> >> 4 wire eithernet cable and it works fantastic!
> >>
> >> Hub only needed if you are going to be connecting more than two.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:06:10 -0700, Dane <localhost@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Philip Wright wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> A 3COM OfficeConnect 4 port hub is dirt cheap (~$40).
> >> >> Rather than fool with crossover cables I would recommend
> >> >> a hub for simplicity and expandability.
> >> >>
> >> >> Philip Wright
> >> >
> >> >I'll take a $7 Cat 5 crossover cable anyday of the week
> >> >over a $40 hub. Add to it a pair of Pro 100 Ethernet
> >> >cards and you have a very fast network.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Anti-Spamming measures. To reply to me, remove nospam.
> >> >and ROT-13 my email address: qnar@nospam.fbhguynaq.arg
> >
>
> --
> E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
> _______

> IBM Canada Ltd.

Instead of making up Crossover cables or getting the T's & terminators for the
Coaxial  why not just do as i have done ..It works great whenever you need a
Crossover cable and only takes about 5 minutes time .
 Here is a simpler solution  that I found and have used .I also don't  have
any
cables to get mixed up and that is to  modify a connector  the way it explains
on this
website ! Infact this is the site I followed when I built the ones I used ....
                http://www.kan.org/networking/crossover.html

Hope this will be of some Help
SirGrey
please remove Spam Block to reply



> ________________________________________________________________
>

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From: spamawmgspareme@yesic.please.com                  31-Oct-99 00:42:26
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: "andrew g" <spamawmgspareme@yesic.please.com>

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 11:09:31 -0500 (CDT), Antonio Relyea wrote:

> I thought that was cool
>because at the time I was a college student writing software.

BoB and Icon took alot of crap for the pictures of them in the "About" dialog
box, because some idiots complained that it "bloated" the software. But the
pix of them and their "girlfriends" were really very nicely done, along with
the National Lampoon style bios of the boys.

And I have to say, when I didn't know how to change text colour with drag and
drop, Ike sent me this:

[quoted mail]
;Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 14:19:55 -0500
;Reply-To: "PMMail Support" <pmmail@southsoft.com>
;Priority: Normal
;X-Mailer: Icon I. Ikenschlitzer!'s Registered PMMail 1.91 Beta 1 For OS/2
;MIME-Version: 1.0
;Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
;Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
;Subject: Re: text colo(u)r?
;X-UIDL: 4c4972424d37da8b1d48f821361b148f
;
;On Sun, 16 Mar 97 09:38:04 -0500, fr. andrew graham wrote:
;
>Hi.
>How do I change the colour of text so that messages appear in CYAN on a
>BLACK BACKGROUND?
>
>I can drag a color from the palette to change the background, but I
>don't know how to change the foreground.
>

;I believe you need to control+drag from the pallette.

;Ike.
[end of quoted mail]

I missed that renegade touch when things got professional.

andrew


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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   31-Oct-99 05:06:17
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <381b86f8$1$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net> - letoured@nospam.net
writes:
:>
:>>I downloaded it from hobbes, unzipped it, prepared my hard disk for a
:>>maintenance
:>>partition, coded the command and installed a maintenance partition in
:>>about 2
:>>hours a week ago.  It looked obvious to me (even though not explicit)
:>>that those
:>>are command line parameters and arguments.
:>
:>Okay. Lets assume I'm stupid since its not obvious to me. 
:>
:>What is the command line needed to make boot disks from the version of OS2
:>that I have on Drive D.  --- I'm begining to think that maybe you guys
:>don't really know either and don't want anyone to know it.
:>
:>_____________
:>Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>
:>


If you want to make  a two disk floppy boot:

   bootos2 2disk

If you want to make a make a maintenance boot partition on a hard disk:

   bootos2 target=x type=wps (if you want a gui interface)

 or

   bootos2 target=x type=pm (if you want a command line interface)

 where x is the disk partition you want to install to
 Add the partition to the Boot Manager menu

I have used bootos2 to make both floppy emergency boot disks and a maintenance
boot partition using the above commands. My Warp 4 boot partion is D: and my
maintenance partion is F:

Perhaps part of the problem with the docs is that too many options are offered
while only a couple are really needed. However I don't think it is fair to
criticize someone for releasing a free and useful utility with what one would
consider sub standard docs. It is incumbent on the user to work through the
docs and if they find them too difficult to try something else or seek help
without the implicit criticism. This is just my opinion so don't take it
personally.

I am not a programmer nor do I consider myself a computer expert.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net

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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   31-Oct-99 05:06:16
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <381E1844.B17D2CF1@ibm.net> - Douglas Houck <houck@ibm.net> writes:
:>
:>I also recently purchased an Optra40 and installed a 16 meg ram chip,
:>that I got from another Optra45.  I haven't had time to compare the 4
:>vs. 16 meg but here are my impressions.
:>
:>In printing a text page the response is much faster than my Lexmark
:>5700.  I have close to immediate control of the computer.  When printing
:>a graphic, I've noticed the same thing you have; a long, long amount of
:>blinking light before it finally prints.  It almost seemed that I needed
:>to send another print job to get the first one out.  (I need to contact
:>Lexmark on this).  I have my PRINTMONFBUF set to 2048.  The printing of
:>graphics is simply slower than the Lexmark 5700.  This is also true for
:>NT4.  I've only tried graphics at 1200 dpi so I can't say if there is
:>any improvement if I use the normal 600 dpi setting.
:>
:>I'll try the PCL5 driver and see what happens.
:>

Hello Douglas

Thanks for the feedback. As soon as i find out exactly what kind of SIMM this
printer needs I will be installing another 16 megs. I did try the PCL5 driver
but didn't notice a signifigant increase in performance and the Postscript
driver seemed to give better output. Also I got errors when trying to print
from Netscape so I have since deleted the PCL5 printer object.

I did get feedback from another owner who told me that it took him about half
the time to print the same graphic file as I did and he had 20 megs installed.
It was a jpg picture printed at 600 dpi through PMview (2.5 minutes vs my
aprox 5 minutes). At least there is no slowdown on the system unlike the 3200
I had before.

Overall I am much happier with this printer than with the 3200

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          31-Oct-99 06:32:01
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 05:06:34, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) a crit dans un 
message:

> In message <381b86f8$1$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net> - letoured@nospam.net
> writes:
> :>
> :>>I downloaded it from hobbes, unzipped it, prepared my hard disk for a
> :>>maintenance
> :>>partition, coded the command and installed a maintenance partition in
> :>>about 2
> :>>hours a week ago.  It looked obvious to me (even though not explicit)
> :>>that those
> :>>are command line parameters and arguments.
> :>
> :>Okay. Lets assume I'm stupid since its not obvious to me. 
> :>
> :>What is the command line needed to make boot disks from the version of OS2
> :>that I have on Drive D.  --- I'm begining to think that maybe you guys
> :>don't really know either and don't want anyone to know it.
snip
> 
> If you want to make  a two disk floppy boot:
> 
>    bootos2 2disk
> 
> If you want to make a make a maintenance boot partition on a hard disk:
> 
>    bootos2 target=x type=wps (if you want a gui interface)
> 
>  or
> 
>    bootos2 target=x type=pm (if you want a command line interface)
> 
>  where x is the disk partition you want to install to
>  Add the partition to the Boot Manager menu
> 
> I have used bootos2 to make both floppy emergency boot disks and a
maintenance
> boot partition using the above commands. My Warp 4 boot partion is D: and my
> maintenance partion is F:
> 
> Perhaps part of the problem with the docs is that too many options are
offered
> while only a couple are really needed. However I don't think it is fair to
> criticize someone for releasing a free and useful utility with what one
would
> consider sub standard docs. It is incumbent on the user to work through the
> docs and if they find them too difficult to try something else or seek help
> without the implicit criticism. This is just my opinion so don't take it
> personally.
> 
> I am not a programmer nor do I consider myself a computer expert.

I'm even less so of either and have to say in nearly three years of trying 
unsuccessfully to make use of BOOTOS2 I've never had the idea that I should
type

	bootos2 2disk

in order to make bootable floppies. (This produces, evidently by my limited
experience, the same behaviour that typing BOOTOS2 does, also resulting in 
a failure.)

Also, it fails to make "OS/2 2.45" bootable floppies, perhaps because it 
doesn't know about something that is supposed to be on one of the numbered 
"Install" diskettes but is *not* in WSeB. Like, perhaps,:

	Path "A:\KEYBOARD.DCP" not found

from Install Disk 1. Anyway, I'll defend anybody who says BOOTOS2 is not 
self-evident. And y'all program writers, when you give suggested "syntax" 
for a command, how about giving an actual EXAMPLE LINE that make correct 
use of the syntax you've written for? A lot of parameters have to be 
entered with / characters, some of them have to be entered with - 
characters, and some of them want no prefix character at all. Y'all know 
what it wants, but until you spell it out for us, we don't know how to type
what we have to.



Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           31-Oct-99 01:45:28
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: Motherboard Memory recognition > 64MB

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

Wim Wauters wrote:
> 
> Alan Beagley wrote:
> 
> > I thought that this OS/2 memory > 64MB setting was needed only for ancient 
versions of
> > OS/2:  2.1x or older.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > Warp 4 finds 128MB of RAM just fine on my Asus P2B-LS mobo.
> >
> > Alan
> 
> Thanks for the info. I hope you don't mind me adding your MoBo to the
> 'comp.os.os2.setup.misc/motherboard  Memory recognition > 64MB' thread.
> 
> > "David T. Johnson" wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the driver situation isn't great but, IMO, it isn't terrible
> > > either.  The single biggest driver issue right now for OS/2 is getting
> > > motherboard BIOSs that will allow OS/2 to find more than 64 MB of DRAM.
> > > Many of the BIOS versions have an OS/2 memory > 64MB option but it often
> > > does not work properly.  And yes, this isn't really a 'driver' issue but
> > > it is important.

It is a motherboard/BIOS matter as to whether OS/2 will recognise more
than 64 MB. My BIOS has no setting for allowing OS/2 to see more than 64
MB, and while NT and Linux have no problem using all 80 MB on my
machine, there is nothing I can find anywhere that will get OS/2 Warp 4
to use that last 16 MB (which would make a few more tasks more
enjoyable). Mind you, I need to get around to replacing the BIOS
somewhere in the next couple of months or so - my only remaining Y2K
problem other than the calendars on my walls. If I had gotten the chips
produced two weeks earlier or two weeks later, I would have been Y2K
okay, but no, they had to put out chips for about a month that were
wildly buggy ;) Anyhow, hopefully that will also give me the last 16 MB,
otherwise there is a motherboard incompatibility, too. Guess that may be
why the manual doesn't include anything resembling a reference to the
manufacturer...
-- 

============================================================
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Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
Voix:        (613) 531-8767   Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935
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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           31-Oct-99 02:13:23
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: deleting os2?

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

chary wrote:
> 
> This question is about deleting some files which apparently are os2
(archive?
> drivers?) on a four year old IBM pc. Hopefully somebody here will be able to
> help out, since I didn't get any replies on the IBM pc group.
> 
> There is a directory named C:\Diskettes. I'm wondering if it can be safely
> deleted. The folder is 103 megs, and it contains the subfolder Os2V3, with
~34
> megs. These files came with the system. Files are dated 1995. Os2 never will 
be
> used. This is an IBM Personal Computer 350-P133, MT6586-7uo, purchased
12/95.
> 
> The folder is visible from Windows Explorer, I'd like to just delete it from
> there. Windows is the os that is being used. AFAIK, the drive is not
> partitioned, and Os2 was never actually installed (the computer isn't mine,
it's
> a friend's, and I haven't personally seen it).
> 
> Thanks for any help.

I recognise this setup - IBM was selling systems for a while with both
DOS/Windows and OS/2, and you selected which one you wanted at first
startup, which then did the installations necessary, iirc. I'm not sure
what the licensing terms were - it may have been an either/or situation,
in which case you would not be licensed to use OS/2 now, or it could
have been that with a "First Boot" disk or program, you could go back
and install OS/2 as well. I presume that you are now running Win9X, from
the reference to Windows Explorer, so you are using either VFAT or
FAT32, which my understanding regarding the technology says "Don't
install OS/2 there for dual boot usage", so you probably wouldn't be in
a position to make use of OS/2 on that machine now if you were inclined
to do so.

So long as the files aren't read-only, yes, you should be able to get
away with dragging the "\Diskettes" folder to the Recycle Bin and then
empty the bin. It may also (probably) include the MS-DOS/Windows
installation, but that is now irrelevant for you with Win9X.

At least IBM didn't do what one local computer vendor did with Win95
systems - they put the installation CD onto the hard drive in a
directory that they then made hidden. If you needed to re-install, you
had to get them to do it unless you knew about this trick - complete
with a service charge!
-- 

============================================================
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From: matt196@mindspring.com                            31-Oct-99 05:01:16
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 10:32:25
Subj: DISREGARD

From: Nelson and Satasha Williams <matt196@mindspring.com>

 I found the info in question at
http://www.warpupdates.de/english/warp_year2000.html
Nelson

Nelson and Satasha Williams wrote:

> I'm currently running Fixpack 5, and I've read that the Y2K situation in
> Warp 4.0 was taken care of in FixPack 4.  Now, I have 3 questions:
>
> 1.  Is this true, or do I need a higher FixPack?
> 2.  FixPack 10, 12, which one?
> 3.  Where can I find a list of what each FixPack does?
>
> Nelson

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From: WolfgangHaas@swol.de                              31-Oct-99 13:04:01
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 10:32:25
Subj: Re: GA-71X and Warp Memory Detection

From: WolfgangHaas <WolfgangHaas@swol.de>

I have with my MSI Board and the ATHLON 500 the same Problem. For 4 Wekks and
all week new i send a message to MSI but i become no answer. MSI germany tell
me the problem send to Taiwan !!! Now 4 weeks later no answer


Wolfgang

"David T. Johnson" schrieb:

> Frank Field wrote:
> >
> > I've been casting around for ideas/strategies; I've got one of the new
> > Athlon boards (the Gigabyte 71X) and, although OS/2 installs just
> > swimmingly, it only detects a little over 64 megabaytes of the
> > 256 megabytes installed.  Toggling the "Memory above 64 megs" flag
> > in the BIOS to "OS2" makes things worse; then only 16 megs are
> > found.
> >
> > This does *NOT* seem to be restricted to the Gigabyte; I have gotten
> > e-mails from people with Biostar and Soyo boards who also cite this,
> > and there are usenet posts suggesting that it happens on MSI and FIC
> > boards too - one of which uses the AMI BIOS instead of the Award.
> >
> > I've posted e-mails to AMD and Gigabyte, to no avail (or, at least, with
> > no response).  I even posted a PROBLEM.TXT to IBM.  Award makes
> > it hard to contact them at all; they point you back to your board/system
> > vendor.  Anyone got any other ideas about how I might proceed in trying
> > to get this resolved?  Note that, this morning, I got a post from someone
> > claiming that this is also a problem with NT4 SP5, but I can't confirm
> > that yet.  I can say that it is *NOT* a problem for Win95/98).
> >
> > Ideas, anyone???
>
> The only way this can be fixed is for the BIOS vendor to fix their BIOS
> bug.  The BIOS vendors *claim* to support OS/2 on their website.  We
> just have to keep at them AND the motherboard vendors until this is
> fixed.  BTW, I have seem people claim that that the ASUS K7M Athlon
> motherboard works properly for OS/2 memory.  Can anyone confirm this?
> This motherboard is quite a bit different from the other motherboards
> because it is 4-layer instead of 7-layer and does not follow the AMD
> "Fester" reference design.  Also, Compaq and IBM are both selling Athlon
> systems with their own proprietary motherboards in them.  Does anyone
> have one of these with OS/2 yet who can update us about the amount of
> OS/2 memory it finds?

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From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca                31-Oct-99 12:42:04
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 10:32:26
Subj: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca (Jack Troughton)

Hi all!

I got broken into.  Which really sucks, but anyway...

I need to get replacement media for warp connect and warp 4.  Who or 
where do I call in IBM to get replacement media?

The license information included with warp 4 and warp connect is none 
too clear about this.  I would like to avoid playing "pass it on" over
the telephone as much as I can, as I'm going to be calling them while 
at work, and work is busy:)

I'm in Montreal, if that makes any difference over who to call.

Thanks!

Jack Troughton   ICQ:7494149
http://jakesplace.dhs.org
jack.troughton at videotron.ca
jake at jakesplace.dhs.org
Montral PQ Canada

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           31-Oct-99 08:52:19
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 10:32:26
Subj: Re: Motherboard Memory recognition > 64MB

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <381BD794.62ABA26D@adan.kingston.net>, on 10/31/99 at 01:45 AM,
   "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net> said:
> enjoyable). Mind you, I need to get around to replacing the BIOS
> somewhere in the next couple of months or so - my only remaining Y2K
> problem other than the calendars on my walls. If I had gotten the chips
> produced two weeks earlier or two weeks later, I would have been Y2K
> okay, but no, they had to put out chips for about a month that were
> wildly buggy ;) Anyhow, hopefully that will also give me the last 16 MB,
> otherwise there is a motherboard incompatibility, too. Guess that may be
> why the manual doesn't include anything resembling a reference to the
> manufacturer...

Two thoughts.

1. A bios replacement, when you can find one, costs as much as a new
motherboard. I have seen them on the net for as little as $15 or so! This
is particularly true if you are running a Pentium in an AT style case. 

The current production of mobo's is all PII and ATX style which would mean
both a new mobo and processor as well as a new case/power supply. 

However, there are literally tens of thousands of older style Pentium
mobo's around which use the AT style case.

Moreover, the new mobo's only use the new DIMM memory modules, not 72 pin
SIMMS. With the price of memory through the roof, upgrading today will be
very expensive.

2. What bios do you have? All bioses I have seen give a series of numbers
at the top and/or bottom of the boot up screen. BIOS manufacturers will
generally give you information on the manufacturer of the motherboard.
This usually leads to a website where one can frequently find updated bios
files and installation programs.

Award and Phoenix bioses are all now Award. Their website is
www.award.com. Search it for a VOICE number. You will be amazed what a
long distance call can achieve.

The AMI website is www.AMI.com. Do the same thing for a phone number. They
are MOST helpful as a rule if you are polite and persistent.

Hope this helps

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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    30-Oct-99 19:51:07
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 10:32:26
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <GvCG48D5w+qf090yn@erols.com>,
mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote:

>Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the computer
>budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to
comment
>on this subject.

I attended a Networking show on Wednesday.  A guy from Lucent was 
talking about 10 Gbit ethernet!  He also mentioned they had run a 
sustained 3 Tb (yes, that right 3 terabits/second) error free over a
200 mile fibre.  Just the thing for a home lan.  ;-)

BTW, the previous best I'd heard of was by Seimens.  They ran 3.2 Tb 
error free over 40 KM (25 miles). 

-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    30-Oct-99 19:56:28
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 10:32:26
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

I assume you're referring to "cross over" cable.  All CAT 5 is twisted
pair, along with almost every other type of non-coaxial cable sold for 
communications use.  Twisted pair cables have been used for decades, 
to reduce interference in pairs of wires.  Even the old open wire 
telephone lines used twisting (known as transposition) to reduce cross
talk.  The cross over cables swap the transmit & receive pairs at 
one end, so that lan cards can talk directly, instead of using a hub.

In article <slrn81gnvo.ae.blackdeath@blackdeath.pr1.on.wave.home.com>,
blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger) wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 06:56:06 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote:
>>Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the computer
>>budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to
comment
>>on this subject.
>
>You can do it with a Twisted Pair CAT-5 cable. Don't confuse twisted pair
>with regular CAT-5, though. Twisted pair is used to directly connect two
>computers, while normal CAT-5 has to go through a hub.
>
>Get two (10 or 100)MBPS NICs with an RJ45 connector, plug 'em into each of
>your computers, and put the twisted pair cable between them. Then just setup
>your LAN like you would with coax cable.
>
>A twisted pair cable (about 10') will run you somewhere in the area of $5
>to $10.
>
>OTOH - if you're thinking of adding more computers later, it might be worth
>your while to get a 5 port hub. Just get two pieces of normal CAT-5 cable
>and connect them to the hub (you'll have to RTFM for the hub).
>
>-- 
>Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
>blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
>Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

-- 
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_________________________________________________________________________
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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    30-Oct-99 20:02:12
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 10:32:26
Subj: Re: Networking 2 home computers...

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <3818adcd.0@news.sewanee.edu>,
"Michael Guyear" <mguyear@sewanee.edu> wrote:
>Way over priced. I did this once in the lab just for fun, only 10 MBS
>though. It's no faster than 10MB TP (of course) and way more expensive for
>the fiber interfaces. Only reason I could see for this is in long distance
>runs or very noisy environments.

Or secure environments. Or explosive atmosphere environments. Or 
electrical hazard environments. Or...

>
>
>> Anyone here done a 2 computer network with fibre? I'm saving up the
>computer
>> budget money to do just that and I'm interested in anything you have to
>comment
>> on this subject.
>
>
>

-- 
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_________________________________________________________________________
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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           31-Oct-99 02:47:08
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:17
Subj: Re: OS2 Boots Itself

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

letoured@nospam.net wrote:
> 
> >This sounds like FUD to me; but my manager was in a meeting and someone
> >stated that 'OS/2 would boot itself every 49 days', so I get to research
> >it.
> 
> Wasn't there a news story several months ago where MS said they found a
> bug that made Windoz boot every 49 days -- and of course the entire world
> was completely amazed since no one anywhere has ever gotten Windoze to run
> for 49 days.
> 
> >I have never heard of anything like that, and I'm sure we've gone 49 days
> >without booting many of our machines. I didn't find anything from past
> >posts, and I was just wondering if anyone has any information.
> 
> >We are running WARP V4 fixpack 5, although the person who made this
> >statement didn't specify an OS2 version, or CSD level.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >Jeff
> >jpfost@uswest.net
> 
> _____________
> Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

That was my recollection - the 49 day limit was an MS Windows timer or
counter that was overflowing after 49.3 days. It came out during the
early days of the Kosovo war, just after the Stealth fighter crash, and
an "urban myth" followed almost immediately claiming that that plane was
a test model with all of the controlling software running on Windows
rather than a custom written platform for the Stealths as most of the
others were. If it wasn't for that, I'd have forgotten about that
problem entirely.

I remember at one point, the Debian distribution of Linux had a similar
problem, but it's particular timer overflowed after 493 days, requiring
a re-start. I've never seen or heard of any edition of OS/2 having a
similar problem, but there could be some counter that will overflow
after 70+ years somewhere.

Then again, while DOS was okay, I'm sure I never ran Win 3.1 for more
than a few days without rebooting or at least restarting it, and Win95
was always restarted daily just to clear out any stray code and data. As
such, I never approached encountering that problem. NT didn't have that
problem, and I did run it for a couple of months at one point when the
other drive, which had OS/2, was acting up.

OS/2 can easily be tucked away as a server (even non-server versions) on
a UPS without reboots being necessary, until companies forget that they
have those systems handling key functions in their networks between the
mainframe, users, printers and files.

From what I do remember, Windows 95 just stopped taking input from the
keyboard after 49.3 days, and only a re-start would recover things. It
may have also had problems with the pointing device, as I seem to recall
something about only the reset button would respond for some users.

From what I remember, CP/M never had that problem ;)
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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 31-Oct-99 07:44:00
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-1gicVxKfQdhJ@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net
(Doug Bissett) writes:

snip 

>advantage to LEARN how to use the command line. There are a LOT of 
>excellent programs, written to be run from the command line, that 
>require the correct command SYNTAX to run them (Henk Kelder's CHECKINI
>program, is one of them, that I would not want to be without).
>

woopsy, me bad - I just made a program object, filled in the switches in the
parameters setting and double-click ! handy for repetitive tasks . . guess I
blew my cover as semi-knowledgeable user here, shoot . . . .

>
>Just my C$.03 ($.02 US)...
>******************************
>From the PC of Doug Bissett
>doug.bissett at attglobal.net
>The " at " must be changed to "@"
>******************************

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From: twelker@maui.net                                  30-Oct-99 21:19:24
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Installing OS/2 on Sony ... HELP

From: John Twelker <twelker@maui.net>

Aloha,

I'm helping a friend install OS/2 on his Sony Digital Studio. Install
went fine until after the first reboot ... then the screen started
blinking with "OUT OF RANGE SCAN" error message and everything stopped
loading.

I've tried F6 Disable Hardware Detection ... same results.

I sure would appreciate help on this ... and thanking you in advance,

(A copy to e-mail would be appreciated).

--
John Twelker
RaceManPro Windsurfing Software, Co-Developer
http://www.ultranet.com/~lefebvre/RaceManPro/

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Still happily running OS/2 Warp 4.0 for the third year ... while we
still have a choice.


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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 31-Oct-99 07:53:23
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: 2 Adaptec SCSI's compatible?

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <381B37F9.627947EC@rtd.com>, James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> writes:
>
>
>August Abolins wrote:
>> 
>> I was thinking of adding an Agfa SnapScan 1236s (SCSI) scanner to a
long-time
>> old 486dx2-50 (32meg), Warp 3 redspine (no fixpaks) system.  The PC already
>> features a Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card which features an Adaptec
>> AHA-15xxSomething, which  controls the SCSI cdrom unit.
>> 
>> The scanner comes along with a SCSI card.  It apparently is an Adaptec
>> AVA-1505.
>> 
>> Does anyone know if this combination of dual host adapters may not be
>> compatible?
>> 
>    AFAIK, yes.
>    I have two SCSI adapters in my system, one an adaptec, the other a
>Mylex. I see no reason why two adaptecs cannot work in the same system.
>

I must be missing something here . . . do they make scsi adapter cards 
which will only accept one device ? One of the loveliest things about 
SCSI is adding a whole bunch of devices to one card with one IRQ. Why
would you want two cards for only two devices ? 

--
hrad ngravvd

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      31-Oct-99 09:28:14
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: OS2 Boots Itself

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Jeff Pfost [] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 This sounds like FUD to me; but my manager was in a meeting and someone
 stated that 'OS/2 would boot itself every 49 days', so I get to research it.
 
 I have never heard of anything like that, and I'm sure we've gone 49 days
 without booting many of our machines. I didn't find anything from past
 posts, and I was just wondering if anyone has any information.

Not for OS/2 AFAIK. However earlier versions of both Win95 (at least the first
release) and Linux (before the 2.0 kernel IIRC) had some timer register who
would overflow and force them to reboot after some months, which may be what
you managers possibly has confused it with.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: twelker@maui.net                                  30-Oct-99 22:01:21
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Netscape Challenges

From: John Twelker <twelker@maui.net>

Aloha from Maui,

1) Messenger quit working after I deleted a Profile Manager User.
2) Deleted spam keeps reappearing each time Netscape loaded. Deleted
Trash spam keeps reappearing as well ... now over 160 copies of the spam
reappear.

Any ideas?  Thanks!

--
John Twelker
RaceManPro Windsurfing Software, Co-Developer
http://www.ultranet.com/~lefebvre/RaceManPro/

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Still happily running OS/2 Warp 4.0 for the third year ... while we
still have a choice.


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From: twelker@maui.net                                  30-Oct-99 21:56:28
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: OS/2 and ACPI

From: John Twelker <twelker@maui.net>


Glen D wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is there ACPI support for Warp 4?
>
> TIA
>
> Glen D
> -<remove Z from my e-mail address>-

As I understand it:

Advanced Configuration and Power Interface is a Win98 feature ... when
it works right.

Warp 4.0 supports Advanced Power Management, the predecessor to ACPI. Be
sure it's enabled in the BIOS.

I have Win98 and OS/2 coexisting on and Aptiva and each appears to use
its respective power management feature.

--
John Twelker
RaceManPro Windsurfing Software, Co-Developer
http://www.ultranet.com/~lefebvre/RaceManPro/

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Still happily running OS/2 Warp 4.0 for the third year ... while we
still have a choice.


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From: fegehrke@worldnet.att.net                         31-Oct-99 19:14:13
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Trackball driver?

From: Forrest Gehrke <fegehrke@worldnet.att.net>

Hello,
I prefer using a trackball over a mouse because I am 
a touch typist and I want the ball to be in a constant
location so I don't have to look for it.

Kensington had such a trackball some years ago which
included an OS/2 driver but they don't offer it
any more.  Is there a currently available trackball for
which there is an OS/2 driver?

Thanks,
//

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From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com                    31-Oct-99 23:20:22
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: OS2 Boots Itself

From: hernsmodestil@technologist.com

In <381b3042$2$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, on 10/30/99 
   at 01:52 PM, letoured@nospam.net said:


>>This sounds like FUD to me; but my manager was in a meeting and someone
>>stated that 'OS/2 would boot itself every 49 days', so I get to research
>>it.

>Wasn't there a news story several months ago where MS said they found a
>bug that made Windoz boot every 49 days -- and of course the entire world
>was completely amazed since no one anywhere has ever gotten Windoze to
>run for 49 days.

I can't get my NT workstation at work to stay up beyond 7 days. I have to
shut it down every Friday and reboot on Mondays, not to mention the
occasional reboot during the week.  

>>I have never heard of anything like that, and I'm sure we've gone 49 days
>>without booting many of our machines. I didn't find anything from past
>>posts, and I was just wondering if anyone has any information.

>>We are running WARP V4 fixpack 5, although the person who made this
>>statement didn't specify an OS2 version, or CSD level.

>>Thanks.

>>Jeff
>>jpfost@uswest.net


>_____________
>Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           01-Nov-99 00:28:29
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:14:26, Forrest Gehrke 
<fegehrke@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Hello,
> I prefer using a trackball over a mouse because I am 
> a touch typist and I want the ball to be in a constant
> location so I don't have to look for it.
> 
> Kensington had such a trackball some years ago which
> included an OS/2 driver but they don't offer it
> any more.  Is there a currently available trackball for
> which there is an OS/2 driver?
> 

Most of the trackballs pretend they are a normal
serial or ps/2 mouse. The standard drivers will
work with them.

My Warp 4 FP12 machine has a "Kensington Orbit"
trackball. I used the drivers for it for a while but
a couple of years ago I stopped installing them 
because the standard mouse drivers worked just fine.

Lorne Sunley

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          01-Nov-99 00:23:08
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:49:48, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) a 
crit dans un message:
sniptorized
> I just tear off a Printer template panel to create mine. Lexmarks come with
> an OS/2 install utility that handles this stuff pretty nicely, by the way. 
> It's also downloadable from their website, as:

(nothing useful there)

(so clip down to)

> ftp://ftp.lexmark.com/pub/driver/printer_utilities/mvos3xde.exe

Which is the utility I meant to point to but bad proofreading (sloppy 
workhabits all around, today) left it out.

Sorry.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          01-Nov-99 00:23:08
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:16:43, "Kim Cheung" 
<kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com> a crit dans un message:

> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:42:09 GMT, Jack Troughton wrote:
> 
> >I need to get replacement media for warp connect and warp 4.  Who or 
> >where do I call in IBM to get replacement media?
> 
> As much as I feel symphathatic with you, I really don't see how this should
> be covered by replacement media procedure.
> 
> You are better off going to e-Bay for a replacement.   People have gotton
> Warp4s for 10, 20 bucks.

No, you'll be happy to know that IBM doens't agree with you. Their License 
Agreement says you bought the software, not the media (sic transit) it 
resides on. They are forthcoming with new media for just about any good 
story.

And should be.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          01-Nov-99 00:26:21
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <381C9512.47AB93D8@worldnet.att.net>
	   fegehrke@worldnet.att.net "Forrest Gehrke" writes:

> I prefer using a trackball over a mouse because I am
> a touch typist and I want the ball to be in a constant
> location so I don't have to look for it.
>
> Kensington had such a trackball some years ago which
> included an OS/2 driver but they don't offer it
> any more.  Is there a currently available trackball for
> which there is an OS/2 driver?

I am certainly no fan of Micros~1, let it be said; but I use and
like the Ballpoint Mouse, which they once marketed (when Lose-3.1
was the big thing).  But, AFAIK, Micros~1 no longer sell it, and
have not done so for a while.  (Hey, it was a decent product, so
quick discontinuance by them stands to reason.)

The BPM clamps to your keyboard (left or right end, as suits you)
and is worked by a thumb on the ball and first and second fingers
curled around one of two pairs of buttons.  It came with software
to configure it under DOS/Lose-3.1; but I have never bothered (in
Warp 4) with other than OS/2's mouse driver, as it only gets used
right-handed here.  Left-handers might need other drivers to make
the alternate pair of buttons active.

It was sold alone and in a package with software.  Maybe you can
locate an actual manufacturer, or the odd mouse left on a shelf
somewhere.  If you do, let me know, ok?  This instance has never
been quite perfect and a spare would be good to have.

(Maybe that last remark needs explaining.  This mouse is faulty
and always has been, yes, but as a class of design it knocks the
usual rodent into a cocked hat, ergonomically.)
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                01-Nov-99 00:38:20
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com

In <BD2F4oXf0/sa092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes:
>I don't believe he got paid extra for it, though I may be
>wrong

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa

(Does that answer your question<g>)

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          01-Nov-99 00:23:09
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Reinstalling Warp 4

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:45:49, Mark Schlegel <moschleg@erols.com> a crit 
dans un message:

> Svein Sandersen wrote:
> > 
> > I decided to clean up my 1996 warp 4 installation, so I started from
> > scratch.
> > Applied FP12, installed Netscape 2.02, TCP/IP 4.1, Java 1.1.8, latest
> > DOSBOX, sb16 sound in winos2
> > But now I just cant remember where to go next. Do I have to install
> > this win32s-thing before installing RealPlayer?
> > 
> > And what about MPTN? I have not done anything there yet.
> > What steps are neccessary to get the system updated?
> > I seem to remember going through several steps?
> > 
> > Indeed, it would be nice to have a cd with the whole thing updated and
> > ready to go!
> 
> Yeah, there is such a thing (almost) it's called the Indelible Blue
> "WarpUp" CD, see:
> 
> http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/latestwarp4.html
> 
> http://www.indelible-blue.com/product/IBI203
> 
> of course you have to install the base os from the 
> ibm CD then do the Warpup after, so it's not as nice as
> what you really are wanting, which is a New IBM client
> release that would be up-to-date directly.

And just because I've spent (wasted, so far) lots of time trying to figure 
out how to create a virtual "Manufacturer's Refresh" CD that would install 
a current, or at least useful, level of Warp 4, I'll jump in to say that's 
what the original "nice to have" comment referred to, and it doesn't yet 
exist.

The first reboot of a late FP Warp 4 system that has had a fresh install of
the original distribution CD is nearly guaranteed to have problems. You 
have to reboot, let it do CLEANUP, then get somehow to a SERVICE.EXE reboot
to apply the FP (anything past 10 seems to be helpful) that gets you back 
to using your system.

We were trying to suss out the UNPACK/REPACK packages that had to be 
modified to get to that, I think. I haven't heard of anybody getting far 
enough to make a test burn of such a CD.

That's a nice feature of using WSeB, by the way. Except that any JFS 
partition that has been using the "Warp 4.5" update JFS.IFS seems to demand
the latest JFS.IFS, and SET COPYFROMFLOPPY does *not* copy in the new 
JFS.IFS from updated diskettes, so you have to do it manually.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                01-Nov-99 00:59:26
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com

In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-c2PeGBHgUFI0@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
>>Way back when I used it to make Warp 3 disks, I did get them made but then 
>discovered that everything on them was tucked into subdirectories (\OS2, 
>etc.) and the various Path statements were relative, so if you changed 
>directory to a HD location you lost functions.

This was fixed a while back; all paths are now prefixed by the boot drive.

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 (Author)

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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   31-Oct-99 11:14:02
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <7vhjjm$9nu$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/31/99 
   at 02:27 PM, kenkahn@us.ibm.com said:

>In article <381b66ee$2$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>,
>  lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

>> Sorry, documentation for free programs is SUPPOSED to be
>unclear.

>For those that are not aware of this fact, programs such as BOOTOS2 are
>made available to 'externals' (that's you guys) via the OS/2 EWS
>(Employee Written Software) program.  For the most they are completely
>written and maintained by the Author (that's me).  They are not the
>product of some department with a budget and an ID staff.  Everything
>you see in BOOTOS2 was done completely on my own time by myself,
>including the terrible documentation.  I admit it leaves a lot to be
>desired, but, dam it Jim, I'm a programmer, not a writter (oops, wrong
>program).

>If anyone thinks they can do a better job, please do so and send it to
>me; I'll give you full credit (albeit no salary).

>Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)

Truly a generous offer, from a very generous programmer, and I will be
grateful to any of the OS/2 regulars whose postings  I watch  and
auto-fetch who will take up Mr. Kahn's offer and assisit is "clarifying"
the documentation. If a set of 10 illustrations  (pace Donnelly) will do
it, many of us would love to read it. -- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          31-Oct-99 15:36:17
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:27:03, kenkahn@us.ibm.com wrote:

:If anyone thinks they can do a better job, please do so and send
:it to me; I'll give you full credit (albeit no salary).

 Hopefully those who complain the loudest will now jump on your 
generous offer.

 I sure do appreciate all the EWS work you've done over the years.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: moschleg@erols.com                                31-Oct-99 11:45:24
  To: la2gca@c2i.net                                    31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Reinstalling Warp 4

To: Svein Sandersen <la2gca@c2i.net>
From: Mark Schlegel <moschleg@erols.com>

Svein Sandersen wrote:
> 
> I decided to clean up my 1996 warp 4 installation, so I started from
> scratch.
> Applied FP12, installed Netscape 2.02, TCP/IP 4.1, Java 1.1.8, latest
> DOSBOX, sb16 sound in winos2
> But now I just cant remember where to go next. Do I have to install
> this win32s-thing before installing RealPlayer?
> 
> And what about MPTN? I have not done anything there yet.
> What steps are neccessary to get the system updated?
> I seem to remember going through several steps?
> 
> Indeed, it would be nice to have a cd with the whole thing updated and
> ready to go!

Yeah, there is such a thing (almost) it's called the Indelible Blue
"WarpUp" CD, see:

http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/latestwarp4.html

http://www.indelible-blue.com/product/IBI203

of course you have to install the base os from the 
ibm CD then do the Warpup after, so it's not as nice as
what you really are wanting, which is a New IBM client
release that would be up-to-date directly.

Mark

> Svein Sandersen

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          31-Oct-99 17:44:05
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:14:04, htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) a crit dans 
un message:

> In <7vhjjm$9nu$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/31/99 
>    at 02:27 PM, kenkahn@us.ibm.com said:
> 
> >In article <381b66ee$2$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>,
> >  lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> >> Sorry, documentation for free programs is SUPPOSED to be
> >unclear.
> 
> >For those that are not aware of this fact, programs such as BOOTOS2 are
> >made available to 'externals' (that's you guys) via the OS/2 EWS
> >(Employee Written Software) program.  For the most they are completely
> >written and maintained by the Author (that's me).  They are not the
> >product of some department with a budget and an ID staff.  Everything
> >you see in BOOTOS2 was done completely on my own time by myself,
> >including the terrible documentation.  I admit it leaves a lot to be
> >desired, but, dam it Jim, I'm a programmer, not a writter (oops, wrong
> >program).
> 
> >If anyone thinks they can do a better job, please do so and send it to
> >me; I'll give you full credit (albeit no salary).
> 
> >Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
> 
> Truly a generous offer, from a very generous programmer, and I will be
> grateful to any of the OS/2 regulars whose postings  I watch  and
> auto-fetch who will take up Mr. Kahn's offer and assisit is "clarifying"
> the documentation. If a set of 10 illustrations  (pace Donnelly) will do
> it, many of us would love to read it. -- 

I can't find a rock big enough to hide under, it seems.

I wish I understood BOOTOS2 well enough to instruct others in it. But I 
can't make it work for me, here.

Way back when I used it to make Warp 3 disks, I did get them made but then 
discovered that everything on them was tucked into subdirectories (\OS2, 
etc.) and the various Path statements were relative, so if you changed 
directory to a HD location you lost functions. It was obvious that it was 
written by a programmer, of course, and since it was free I never felt I 
should complain about it.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               31-Oct-99 10:16:21
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:42:09 GMT, Jack Troughton wrote:

>I need to get replacement media for warp connect and warp 4.  Who or 
>where do I call in IBM to get replacement media?

As much as I feel symphathatic with you, I really don't see how this should
be covered by replacement media procedure.

You are better off going to e-Bay for a replacement.   People have gotton
Warp4s for 10, 20 bucks.


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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     31-Oct-99 18:28:27
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Motherboard Memory recognition > 64MB

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

This is the second or third thread I've run across this week discussing
the same problem.  What I haven't seen yet is any description of the
problem, or pointer to a description of the problem, which describes in
terms of anything but OS/2.  "The XXX motherboard with an AMI BIOS works
with OS/2", "OS/2 won't recognize above 64Mb", and so forth.

While I appreciate the "free publicity" inherent in BIOS Setup programs
having the string "OS/2" embedded in them(;-), this sounds like a tough
problem for anyone not running OS/2 to really understand.  And it
appears that most OS/2 (most posting here (;-)) do not seem to
understand the effect of this "switch" setting other than "it says OS/2,
so I should use it".

What exactly does this "OS/2 vs. 64 Mb" option realy _do_? Can anyone 
describe in in pure BIOS Int-xx-Function-yy and register terms? (e.g. 
something BIOS vendors might understand more readily than "causes 
problems with OS/2")

Anyone got a pointer to "OS/2 and BIOS Settings for Dummies"? (;-)


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   31-Oct-99 18:42:29
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-xq5meXShnG6B@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com> -
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
:>
::>
:>Every oddball SIMMs I have works, for whatever that's worth. (I still have 
:>the 16MB strip I paid $480 for, actually, and it doesn't work any better 
:>than the "comes with" junk I've accumulated since.)
:>

Time to go shopping for a Simm

:>> 
:>> I just heard back from Lexmark and they suggested the HP 1600c
:>
:>Hm. Did you talk to a real OS/2 person at Lexmark? They've got at least one
:>who really knows his stuff.
:>

No. I left an email and just received a one line response to use HP 1600c

:>Anyway, I've used the Optra Color 1200 and haven't had a single problem 
:>with it.
:>
:>
:>There are differences between the IBM and Lexmark sourced drivers, by the 
:>way. They don't use compatible (comparable, that is) version numbers, so 
:>it's a matter of installing the driver and seeing that it works for you. 
:>That's been true of their PCL5 drivers for the nearly 4 years I've used a 
:>Lexmark laser.
:>

Interesting. I did try the Optra 1200 driver found in the PCL5 package that I
downloaded from IBM's device driver online site and did have problems. I
recieved an error when I tried to print through Netscape 4.61. BTW when you
have both Postscript and PCL5 drivers installed, and if you have only one
physical parallel port (lpt1), do you associate both printer objects with
lpt1. Do you have to reconfigure the output port everytime you choose one
driver or the other? I assumed that when I recieved errors in printing it was
due to the setup and not the driver, and have subsequently deleted the PCL5
driver. I didn't notice a significant difference with the PCL5 driver printing
tests that were successful.


:>For some reason I can't make BIDI work in WSeB, so I'm back to using 
:>PRINT01.SYS in flat polled action (no /IRQ, in other words.) The standard 
:>add-on BIDI package doesn't give me BIDI, the WSeB BIDI option doesn't work
:>as BIDI, and it ain't hardware because I can boot into Win98 without a 
:>single change and it sees the BIDI printer and drives it just fine. It's 
:>possible some resource is impinging on my DMA 3 assignment but I haven't 
:>found the OS/2 tools to track it down.
:>
:>
:>Good luck,
:>
:>Buddy
:>
:>Buddy Donnelly
:>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
:>
:>

I don't want to be presumptuous and recognize that your knowledge in printing
matters is far greater than my own, but did you update the printer port when
you installed the bidi package? Without this step the installation isn't
complete and the docs don't make this clear. Does the Markvision utility work
without bidi capability or do you just not bother with it?

Again thanks for your time and info.

Ted MIller
ecmille@ibm.net

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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         31-Oct-99 21:26:13
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On 31 Oct 1999 10:16:43 PST, Kim Cheung wrote:
>>I need to get replacement media for warp connect and warp 4.  Who or 
>>where do I call in IBM to get replacement media?
>
>As much as I feel symphathatic with you, I really don't see how this should
>be covered by replacement media procedure.
>
>You are better off going to e-Bay for a replacement.   People have gotton
>Warp4s for 10, 20 bucks.

If he's already spent the money on the product, why should he have to spend
more money?

As has been said in this group before, you buy the product - not the media.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 31-Oct-99 22:22:12
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <xvzjnvpfcnztbgbtneontrqrygnargpbz.fkh6gi3.pminews@news.deltanet.com>, "Kim 
Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com> writes:
>On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:42:09 GMT, Jack Troughton wrote:
>
>>I need to get replacement media for warp connect and warp 4.  Who or 
>>where do I call in IBM to get replacement media?
>
>As much as I feel symphathatic with you, I really don't see how this should
>be covered by replacement media procedure.

since the license is for use of the software, not purchase of the media, 
one should be able to purchase replacement media for the media cost.

Strange to see the biggest IBM boosters being so critical - I've got 
replacement media for bad diskettes before (okay, just once) with
no trouble whatsoever - I think I just called the IBM number in the box, 
got sent to the correct place, explained the problem - lady asked
why I thought it was a bad disk, I said CRC errors, she said oh, and 
a new disk was here in a few days. I'm first in line to scream about IBM
usually, but they do some things very well - and media replacement 
is one of them.

>
>You are better off going to e-Bay for a replacement.   People have gotton
>Warp4s for 10, 20 bucks.
>

warp 3 maybe, warp 4 is still usually over a hundred

--
hrad ngravvd

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 31-Oct-99 22:24:16
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: GA-71X and Warp Memory Detection

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <381C3032.29638891@swol.de>, WolfgangHaas <WolfgangHaas@swol.de> writes:

>I have with my MSI Board and the ATHLON 500 the same Problem. For 4 Wekks and
>all week new i send a message to MSI but i become no answer. MSI germany tell
>me the problem send to Taiwan !!! Now 4 weeks later no answer
>
>
>Wolfgang

what about aftermarket places like MR BIOS ? 


>
>"David T. Johnson" schrieb:
>
>> Frank Field wrote:
>> >
>> > I've been casting around for ideas/strategies; I've got one of the new
>> > Athlon boards (the Gigabyte 71X) and, although OS/2 installs just
>> > swimmingly, it only detects a little over 64 megabaytes of the
>> > 256 megabytes installed. 

>> > Ideas, anyone???
>>
>> The only way this can be fixed is for the BIOS vendor to fix their BIOS
>> bug.  The BIOS vendors *claim* to support OS/2 on their website.  


--
hrad ngravvd

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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             31-Oct-99 14:54:07
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: Netscape Challenges

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


John Twelker wrote:
> 
> Aloha from Maui,
> 
> 1) Messenger quit working after I deleted a Profile Manager User.
> 2) Deleted spam keeps reappearing each time Netscape loaded. Deleted
> Trash spam keeps reappearing as well ... now over 160 copies of the spam
> reappear.
> 
> Any ideas?  Thanks!

I think I would make a backup of the files under the "users" directory
and then just do an uninstall and reinstall.  Is this v4.04 or 4.61?

> 
> --
> John Twelker
> RaceManPro Windsurfing Software, Co-Developer
> http://www.ultranet.com/~lefebvre/RaceManPro/
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Still happily running OS/2 Warp 4.0 for the third year ... while we
> still have a choice.

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          31-Oct-99 22:49:24
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:42:58, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) a crit dans un 
message:
> 
> Interesting. I did try the Optra 1200 driver found in the PCL5 package that
I
> downloaded from IBM's device driver online site and did have problems. I
> recieved an error when I tried to print through Netscape 4.61. 

That's not necessarily the driver's bug, but try this one:

	ftp://ftp.lexmark.com:/pub/driver/laser_os2/os32p5e.exe

for PCL5 and 

	ftp://ftp.lexmark.com:/pub/driver/laser_os2/mpos32ae.exe
for PS.

These are what I've been using and had zero problems with them.



> BTW when you
> have both Postscript and PCL5 drivers installed, and if you have only one
> physical parallel port (lpt1), do you associate both printer objects with
> lpt1. Do you have to reconfigure the output port everytime you choose one
> driver or the other? 

Yes, no. When you open the Printer Driver page in the Printer Object 
settings you'll see all available Printer Driver Files in the upper window,
with the ones assigned to that same Port highlited. In the lower window, 
you'll see the ones assigned to that Port, with the one designated for that
Printer Object highlited.

You should, at this point, set the default settings two ways: by 
doubleclicking on the designated printer driver icon, and by hitting the 
Job Properties button. For some reason, some applications look for these 
settings in one place, and not the other, and they have to be set 
identically for the printer to work the same everywhere.

But any printer that autoswitches from PCL to PS mode will know what kind 
of code stream is coming down the wire, so you don't have to go inside 
these settings again. Just be sure to make a separate object for each type 
of printing. As illustration, I create 4 printer objects to run with my 2 
Lexmark printers:

LaserPCL
LaserPS
ColourPCL
ColourPS

The two "Laser" printers are assigned to LPT1, and the other two to LPT2. 
(Reboot at every step of creating these, and you'll make good printer 
objects, by the way. You should have to reboot twice before using the 
printer.)

I just tear off a Printer template panel to create mine. Lexmarks come with
an OS/2 install utility that handles this stuff pretty nicely, by the way. 
It's also downloadable from their website, as:



>I assumed that when I recieved errors in printing it was
> due to the setup and not the driver, and have subsequently deleted the PCL5
> driver. I didn't notice a significant difference with the PCL5 driver
printing
> tests that were successful.

The best way to make PCL5 work for you as a speed driver is to be using the
Resident Printer Fonts. For printing long documents from DeScribe or Lotus,
you'll save at least half the time and maybe two thirds of the time.


> I don't want to be presumptuous and recognize that your knowledge in
printing
> matters is far greater than my own, but did you update the printer port when
> you installed the bidi package? Without this step the installation isn't
> complete and the docs don't make this clear. 


Presume away. I'm as numbnutz as the next feller in a lot of stuff, and 
have displayed it around here fairly regularly. But in this case I did do 
that step, both from the Boulder BIDI package and using the supposed 
capability built into WSeB. I've now installed an add-on parallel port card
and will be testing it for improved BIDI power, later.

> Does the Markvision utility work
> without bidi capability or do you just not bother with it?

Markvision needs BIDI for most of its functions, and you'll need BIDI if 
you want to use the printer control panel for the Color 40, to change ink 
carts and stuff.

There's a downloadable MV file that has slightly older printer drivers in 
it, at:

ftp://ftp.lexmark.com/pub/driver/printer_utilities/mvos3xde.exe

It's fairly easy to copy in the newer packed drivers over these before 
running the SETUP program. This creates the multiple drivers as well as all
the other MV control panels, but I don't know if it has the panel for the 
Color 40 in it or not. I don't use MV these days.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              31-Oct-99 23:05:07
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: Installing OS/2 on Sony ... HELP

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


John Twelker wrote:
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> I'm helping a friend install OS/2 on his Sony Digital Studio. Install
> went fine until after the first reboot ... then the screen started
> blinking with "OUT OF RANGE SCAN" error message and everything stopped
> loading.
> 
    This refers to an incompatible choice of video resolution and
refresh rate. Unfortunately I do not know what you can do about this
since you are in the middle of installation.
    Hmm. Maybe selecting F3 "Restore to VGA" from the boot options menu?
(Same place you chose "No hardware detection.") Sometimes video drivers
get excited and choose a bogus combination.


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      01-Nov-99 04:09:05
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Bob Germer [] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 Lotsa Luck! From my experience with IBM, MS, etc., you are SOL. The

Microsoft sells both their media and also their handbooks separately (without
any license packaged with them). AFAIK they have it for all their software. 
Looking at my price list a normal typical CD-set cost about $18 (in Sweden).

I'm not sure if IBM has that (couldn't find it right now looking at their
price list), but I would be a bit surprised if they didn't (as many large
customers usually buys their licenses and media separately).

I have however no clue about legal matters or any info what happens when it
comes to the juridical issues when software gets stolen and how that works.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     01-Nov-99 03:59:20
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: OS2 Boots Itself

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Pure FUD, possibly an irresponsible lie to boot!
Three years ago I was sent to swap tape drives on a server running OS/2 2.11
the server had been running for two years and seven days. I felt guilty
having to reboot it. Pick any one of the WinDOS95,98 or NiceTry OS'es
and see if they will even last until the monthly reboot.

Jeff Pfost wrote:

> This sounds like FUD to me; but my manager was in a meeting and someone
> stated that 'OS/2 would boot itself every 49 days', so I get to research it.
>
> I have never heard of anything like that, and I'm sure we've gone 49 days
> without booting many of our machines. I didn't find anything from past
> posts, and I was just wondering if anyone has any information.
>
> We are running WARP V4 fixpack 5, although the person who made this
> statement didn't specify an OS2 version, or CSD level.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeff
> jpfost@uswest.net

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              01-Nov-99 05:10:05
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Forrest Gehrke wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I prefer using a trackball over a mouse because I am
> a touch typist and I want the ball to be in a constant
> location so I don't have to look for it.
> 
> Kensington had such a trackball some years ago which
> included an OS/2 driver but they don't offer it
> any more.  Is there a currently available trackball for
> which there is an OS/2 driver?
> 
    I have been using the Logitech "Marble," a trackball-like mouse. It
needs no special driver. It works as though it were a mobile rodent.
Just plugged it into the ps/2 port...


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 31-Oct-99 21:29:04
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, hamei@pacbell.net spake unto us, saying:

>woopsy, me bad - I just made a program object, filled in the switches in
>the parameters setting and double-click ! handy for repetitive tasks . .
>guess I blew my cover as semi-knowledgeable user here, shoot . . . .

Yeah, *shame* on you for using the tools at your disposal!  <grin>

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
               A hand in the bush beats two on the bird?

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 31-Oct-99 21:30:21
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, kenkahn@us.ibm.com spake unto us, saying:

>For those that are not aware of this fact, programs such as
>BOOTOS2 are made available to 'externals' (that's you guys)
>via the OS/2 EWS (Employee Written Software) program.  For the
>most they are completely written and maintained by the Author
>(that's me).

Hi, Ken.  I think a lot of us are quite aware of that, and I for one
greatly appreciate the effort you and the other EWS authors put into
those programs.  Without some of those utilities, OS/2 would have been
a lot harder for some of us to use (particularly several years ago).

Please accept my long overdue (but well-deserved) thanks.  :-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
          Executing VAMPIRE.BAT; insert stake and press ENTER.

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From: admin@hotmail.com                                 01-Nov-99 05:47:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Looking for a Hex editor.

From: admin@hotmail.com (Edmond Dantes)

I've tried a few of the hex editors on Hobbes and they all seem to 
crash regularly
or lack features.  Can anyone tell me where I can get a stable, 
feature rich,
native hex editor.


Edmond Dantes
phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com

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From: twelker@ibm.net                                   31-Oct-99 19:32:20
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Netscape Challenges

From: John Twelker <twelker@ibm.net>


"David T. Johnson" wrote:

> John Twelker wrote:
> >
> > Aloha from Maui,
> >
> > 1) Messenger quit working after I deleted a Profile Manager User.
> > 2) Deleted spam keeps reappearing each time Netscape loaded. Deleted
> > Trash spam keeps reappearing as well ... now over 160 copies of the spam
> > reappear.
> >
> > Any ideas?  Thanks!
>
> I think I would make a backup of the files under the "users" directory
> and then just do an uninstall and reinstall.  Is this v4.04 or 4.61?

Thanks for the suggestion ... reinstall didn't help until I moved the users
file out of the install directory ... then copied files back into the new
directory ... then Mail worked fine.  However, that  didn't help the inability
to delete the spam.

Ver4.61 ... and strangely enough, the Win98 version 4.7 is doing the same
thing    ;-)

I've started to learn Star Office and might just switch everything over to
that.  It's a powerful program for sure, just takes a while to learn.

Aloha,

John Twelker
Maui

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From: twelker@ibm.net                                   31-Oct-99 19:35:01
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Notes Mail 4.1

From: John Twelker <twelker@ibm.net>


William Pridgen wrote:

> I'm on the verge of re-installing Warp 4, after a long hiatus.  Does
> anyone use the Lotus Notes Mail that comes on a CD in the Warp 4 box?
> Is it any good?  Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Bill Pridgen

Before you can use Lotus Notes for your e-mail client,
   you have some work to do. (If for some reason you're
   RE-installing Lotus Notes Mail client, save files
   "names. nsf" and "popmail.nsf" to a safe place if you
   have data in them you want to save ... then after
   re-installing, copy them back to [Drive:]\Notes\Data
   overwriting the new empty files).

   1) Install Lotus Notes from Applications Sampler
   CD-ROM from OS/2 Window. Change directory to g:
   then os2\install and type "instpm".

   2) Download and install the latest 4.1x upgrade to Lotus
   Notes Mail (named OS2WRKD.EXE) from
   http://www.notes.net/downqmr.nsf/Download+File . You
   should be able to go from Lotus Notes Mail 4.1 directly
   to 4.15 update ... I tested this and it worked fine for me.
   However, some users have reported that this update
   method failed and they had to install every incremental
   upgrade, i.e. 4.1 > 4.11a; then 4.11a > 4.12; then 4.12 >
   4.13; then 4.13 > 4.14 and finally, 4.14 > 4.15. Note #1:
   each incremental upgrade has the name
   OS2WRKD.EXE. Therefore, after downloading 4.11a,
   change its name to OS2WRKD1.EXE; after
   downloading 4.12, change its name to
   OS2WRKD2.EXE; and so on. Changing the name won't
   affect how it works when you doubleclick it to install
   the upgrade. Note #2: for some reason, the ftp
   download site index lacks the 4.15 upgrade ... so if you
   use the ftp site, be sure to load the 4.15 upgrade from
   http://www.notes.net/downqmr.nsf/Download+File .

   3) Download the file which contains the Lotus Notes
   Mail database INETHELP.NSF which allows the
   program to send and receive via ISP. You can dl it from
   two sources that I know of: a) NOTEINET.ZIP from
   http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/notes; or
   b) NOTESNET.ZIP from http://www.os2bbs.com if
   you're a subscriber to their service. In June, 1997,
   IBM/Lotus updated their website support to Notes 4.5so
   the file is no longer available there.

   4) Put INETHELP.NSF into your Notes data path
   directory. (You can determine this by selecting the
   File->Tools->User Preferences menu option inside of
   Notes. The data path is shown in the Local database
   folder setting.) Start Notes 4.x if you haven't already.
   Add the new database by selecting
   File->Database->Open from the Notes menubar.

   5) From within the About document, click on the doclink
   to go directly to the "Installing IBM OS/2 Internet Mail
   Client Support for Lotus Notes" document inside the
   Notes database. Follow the instructions listed there to
   complete the install. REMEMBER TO RESTART
   NOTES AFTER RUNNING THE INSTALL
   PROCEDURE TO LOAD THE INTERNET CLIENT
   SUPPORT. Failure to do so will cause your new mail to
   go into your standard Notes outbox, instead of the
   Internet outbox.

   6) (Optional) To add previous Address book and e-mail,
   move files "names. nsf" and "popmail.nsf" to
   d:\notes\data

   Congratulations! You now have a unique e-mail clients
   ... eloquent, professional and powerful with a clean user
   interface. You'll really like the cool Address Book and
   addressing new mail ... you just start typing the contacts
   actual name and Notes Mail fills in the rest for you. No
   need to remember aliases or nicknames, an especially
   good feature if you have a big Address Book. Also, you
   can use the Address Book as a PIM if you like ... it has
   windows for both Business and Home data. Enjoy!

   By the way, Lotus Notes Mail 4.1x does have a couple
   of limitations. The first, it can't load mail with multiple
   headers without crashing BDMAIN.EXE. Second, it
   can't load mail with paragraphs larger than 64K.
   Fortunately, those instances are usually few and far
   between.

Aloha,

John Twelker
Maui

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 01-Nov-99 02:01:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Looking for a Hex editor.

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, admin@hotmail.com (Edmond Dantes)
spake unto us, saying:

>I've tried a few of the hex editors on Hobbes and they all seem to 
>crash regularly or lack features.  Can anyone tell me where I can
>get a stable, feature rich, native hex editor.

I've had no problems with this one:

  ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/editors/hed178b.zip

It's VIO, not PM, and I admit I don't use it *that* heavily, but it
sure seems like a slick utility to me.  FWIW...

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                  Moohahahahah!  Oops, er, sorry...  :-)

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From: dink@dontspamme.com                               01-Nov-99 03:03:01
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: Looking for a Hex editor.

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 05:47:00 GMT, Edmond Dantes wrote:

>I've tried a few of the hex editors on Hobbes and they all seem to 
>crash regularly
>or lack features.  Can anyone tell me where I can get a stable, 
>feature rich,
>native hex editor.

hiew is the best, it does ascii/hex/asm editing of a binary
file.  great for debugging/hacking..etc. =)

check this link: http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?key=hiew


- dink ( http://dink.org )





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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  01-Nov-99 08:29:13
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:14:26, Forrest Gehrke <fegehrke@worldnet.att.net> 
wrote:

> Hello,
> I prefer using a trackball over a mouse because I am 
> a touch typist and I want the ball to be in a constant
> location so I don't have to look for it.
> 
> Kensington had such a trackball some years ago which
> included an OS/2 driver but they don't offer it
> any more.  Is there a currently available trackball for
> which there is an OS/2 driver?

Kensington still makes trackballs, and has discontinued nothing (although 
version 4.0 of the Expert Mouse has been superceded by v5.0). OS/2 drivers 
do not come on the diskette supplied with the trackball, but are available 
for download from the manufacturer's Website: http://www.kensington.com. In
the same place, you can also find a catalog of Kensington products, 
including trackballs -- of which there are at least two types.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                01-Nov-99 00:43:15
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com

In <381b6a0d$3$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes:
>does NOT contain the word "syntax" anywhere.

(Note to self; remove *all* reference to word syntax from DOC file) <g>

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 (Author)

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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                01-Nov-99 00:50:24
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com

In <381b86f8$1$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, letoured@nospam.net writes:
>What is the command line needed to make boot disks from the version of OS2
>that I have on Drive D.

There is no syntax.  BOOTOS2 analyzes your current, active, OS/2 system and
creates a boot system unique for it.  So if you want a set of boot disks
specific
for an OS/2 system on drive D:, run BOOTOS2 while booted from your D: drive.
The purpose of the SOURCE= option, as specified in the DOC file, is to locate
special files usually only located on your OS/2 install disks; i.e. SYSINSTX,
VTBL850.DCP and KEYBOARD.DCP;  SOURCE= allows you to tell BOOTOS2 an
alternate location where to find these files.

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)

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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                31-Oct-99 17:01:21
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com>

>Surely you didn't think that you could just type BOOTOS2 at a command
>line and it would read your mind and figure ....

That's on my to-do list for a future release (and that's going to be
*real* interesting to
document <g>).

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)

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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                31-Oct-99 17:03:27
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com>

>Surely you didn't think that you could just type BOOTOS2 at a command
>line and it would read your mind and figure ....

That's on my to-do list for a future release (and that's going to be
*real* interesting to
document <g>).

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    01-Nov-99 06:55:27
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:23
Subj: Re: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-scEIs6YWFqJ8@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:

>> You are better off going to e-Bay for a replacement.   People have gotton
>> Warp4s for 10, 20 bucks.
>
>No, you'll be happy to know that IBM doens't agree with you. Their License 
>Agreement says you bought the software, not the media (sic transit) it 
>resides on. They are forthcoming with new media for just about any good 
>story.

My dog ate it?  ;-)

-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: slava@kdb.dp.ua                                   01-Nov-99 14:33:06
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:24
Subj: MS-DOS from diskette

From: "Slava Tihonyuk" <slava@kdb.dp.ua>

Hi,

I have problem when running MS-DOS 6.2 from boot diskette
(DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE=a:)
under OS/2 Warp 4.0.
I see "Starting MS-DOS"  message and then system offers to close task (or
task is doing nothing). When I boot MS-DOS from it - no errors. I have tried
many diskettes but result is same.
What should I do to overcome this problem ?

Slava.
slava@kdb.dp.ua




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From: D.Andriessen@pink.nl                              01-Nov-99 13:08:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:24
Subj: OS/2 1.3 Server

From: "Denie Andriessen" <D.Andriessen@pink.nl>

Hi there,

I've got a question about OS/2 1.3 Server. In our building there is
a machine like that, and no one remembers the password.. But there
is still data on it, which someone needs access to.

It is in a 'share', but no one can access it, and the 'console' is locked.

Any ideas how to get access to it ?

Is 'rebooting' the machine the rude way a solution (ie: can you 'see' all
data on
  the machine from the console)?
Adding the disks to a NT/Linux/Fresh installed Os/2 a way (As i don't even
know
if HPFS makes it mandatory to log on before you can access the console)?

Cheers,

Denie Andriessen


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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           01-Nov-99 08:36:09
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: MS-DOS from diskette

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <7vk1be$cla$1@pandora.alkar.net>, on 11/01/99 at 02:33 PM,
   "Slava Tihonyuk" <slava@kdb.dp.ua> said:

> Hi,

> I have problem when running MS-DOS 6.2 from boot diskette
> (DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE=a:)
> under OS/2 Warp 4.0.
> I see "Starting MS-DOS"  message and then system offers to close task
> (or task is doing nothing). When I boot MS-DOS from it - no errors. I
> have tried many diskettes but result is same.
> What should I do to overcome this problem ?


RTFM. This is clearly spelled out in the Warp Desktop Guide with further
options available as set forth in the OS/2 Command Reference. One should
always thoroughly read and understand the documentation before bleating
for help from those who took the trouble to do so.

For Your Information, RTFM means Read the F**** Manuals.

You must add certain files to the dos diskette for it to boot under OS/2.
The needed lines are clearly set forth in the help files of Warp. First
bring up the Warp Desktop Guide under Tasks in the Information icon of
Warp 4. Then go down the Table of Contents to Using Disk Drives. Open that
section. Go down the TOC to Creating a DOS Startup Diskette. Also read the
next section.

You might also want to read about VMDISK in the OS/2 Command Reference.

--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           01-Nov-99 08:32:03
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-LdLkZ4qy7clr@POBLANO>, on 11/01/99 at 08:29 AM,
   l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) said:

> Kensington still makes trackballs, and has discontinued nothing
> (although  version 4.0 of the Expert Mouse has been superceded by v5.0).
> OS/2 drivers  do not come on the diskette supplied with the trackball,
> but are available  for download from the manufacturer's Website:
> http://www.kensington.com. In the same place, you can also find a
> catalog of Kensington products,  including trackballs -- of which there
> are at least two types.

Absolutely. And the $100 (give or take a couple of dollars) I paid 8 years
ago for my Kensington Expert Mouse (what they call the trackball) was
money well spent. It finally got worn out about 4 and a half years after I
bought it. They replaced it free of charge under the warranty. Even at $10
a piece, mice would have been false economy since most mice fail to last
more than a few months before needing replacement.

--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: cocke@ibm.net                                     01-Nov-99 08:59:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@ibm.net>

Hi Forrest, fancy running into you here.  8-)>

I've used Logitech trackballs from rev 1 thru the new style marble.  
Doesn't need an OS/2 driver other than the one that ships with Warp.


On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:14:26 +0000, Forrest Gehrke wrote:

>Hello,
>I prefer using a trackball over a mouse because I am 
>a touch typist and I want the ball to be in a constant
>location so I don't have to look for it.
>
>Kensington had such a trackball some years ago which
>included an OS/2 driver but they don't offer it
>any more.  Is there a currently available trackball for
>which there is an OS/2 driver?
>
>Thanks,
>//
>

========================================================================
Member: DNRC            Watcher: Babylon 5              User: OS/2 Warp

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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               01-Nov-99 09:19:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <38201E2A.1C778FE7@clear.net.nz>, on 11/04/99 
   at 12:36 AM, Aaron Lawrence <aaronl@clear.net.nz> said:

Find yourself a cheap 5 user netware 3.12 license floating around at one
of the auction sites or a local BBS with a forsale echomail confernce. 
Coble together an obsolete 486 or K6 system you can buy for a song with
several multi-gig SCSI drives.  Create yourself some user id's on the
system.  Layer on the OS/2 long file name support on the server.

Low and behold, every OS you install with a Netware driver will be able to
access every file.  Instead of putting a bazillion gig on your
workstation, limit it to just a 4 gig or smaller drive.  Put EVERYTHING on
your server.  The universal PC file system IS Novell.  That is why NT will
NEVER own the network market, no matter what kind of marketing fraud they
wish to publish.

Roland

>Hi all,

>Is there any one *good* file system that NT, 95 and OS/2 can all read?
>(Some future proofing in the form of Win2000 and Linux compatibility
>would be nice too!) 

>So far I think I know:
>FAT16 is not good :-) 
>AFAIK NT cannot read Fat32
>HPFS is readable by NT(4) and OS/2 but not 95
>VFAT (fat16 with long names) is useable under NT and 95 but I did not
>have much success with the VFat drivers for OS/2. Besides it is still a
>crappy unreliable file system.

>What about any Linux file system(s)? Something else entirely?

>I guess a HPFS driver for Win95 would be nice. He said hopefully.

>THere doesn't really seem to be one nice solution *sigh* Thanks M$ (and
>IBM too I guess).

>TIA 

>Aaron
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           01-Nov-99 14:55:14
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: OS/2 1.3 Server

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:08:04, "Denie Andriessen" <D.Andriessen@pink.nl>
wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I've got a question about OS/2 1.3 Server. In our building there is
> a machine like that, and no one remembers the password.. But there
> is still data on it, which someone needs access to.
> 
> It is in a 'share', but no one can access it, and the 'console' is locked.
> 
> Any ideas how to get access to it ?
> 
> Is 'rebooting' the machine the rude way a solution (ie: can you 'see' all
> data on
>   the machine from the console)?
> Adding the disks to a NT/Linux/Fresh installed Os/2 a way (As i don't even
> know
> if HPFS makes it mandatory to log on before you can access the console)?
> 

As long as the console lock is not set to start at system
boot, re-booting should let you access all the data
from the console.

I don't think that local security was available in the
early versions of LAN Manager.

Lorne Sunley

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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  01-Nov-99 15:01:16
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

Yes and no. I too have been using Kensington trackballs for many years, and
never installed any third-party driver; the mouse driver in Warp works 
fine. But now the new one I bought (the third one operating here) has four 
buttons, not two, and the Kensington driver is required to exploit the full
button complement.

I have the Kensington driver, and have installed it, but the Kensington 
Control Panel doesn't load, only complains that it cannot load unless the 
driver is loaded first. But the lines that the install program placed in 
CONFIG.SYS look good, and are identical to the lines other people have; the
required files are present and where they should be. The install did not 
generate the required INI file, but I made one manually, copying the 
content that another user has. But that doesn't help.

I have now sent two messages to Kensington support asking for advice, but 
have not yet received a reply.

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:59:01, Michael W. Cocke <cocke@ibm.net> wrote:

> Hi Forrest, fancy running into you here.  8-)>
> 
> I've used Logitech trackballs from rev 1 thru the new style marble.  
> Doesn't need an OS/2 driver other than the one that ships with Warp.
> 
> 
> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:14:26 +0000, Forrest Gehrke wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >I prefer using a trackball over a mouse because I am 
> >a touch typist and I want the ball to be in a constant
> >location so I don't have to look for it.
> >
> >Kensington had such a trackball some years ago which
> >included an OS/2 driver but they don't offer it
> >any more.  Is there a currently available trackball for
> >which there is an OS/2 driver?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >//
> >
> 
> ========================================================================
> Member: DNRC            Watcher: Babylon 5              User: OS/2 Warp
> 
>         If you're going to do something, do something worth doing.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.

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From: slava@kdb.dp.ua                                   01-Nov-99 17:33:12
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:20
Subj: Re: MS-DOS from diskette

From: "Slava Tihonyuk" <slava@kdb.dp.ua>

Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> wrote in message
news:381d99e8$2$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com...
> On <7vk1be$cla$1@pandora.alkar.net>, on 11/01/99 at 02:33 PM,
>    "Slava Tihonyuk" <slava@kdb.dp.ua> said:
> RTFM. This is clearly spelled out in the Warp Desktop Guide with further
> options available as set forth in the OS/2 Command Reference. One should
> always thoroughly read and understand the documentation before bleating
> for help from those who took the trouble to do so.
>
> For Your Information, RTFM means Read the F**** Manuals.
>
> You must add certain files to the dos diskette for it to boot under OS/2.
> The needed lines are clearly set forth in the help files of Warp. First
> bring up the Warp Desktop Guide under Tasks in the Information icon of
> Warp 4. Then go down the Table of Contents to Using Disk Drives. Open that
> section. Go down the TOC to Creating a DOS Startup Diskette. Also read the
> next section.
>
> You might also want to read about VMDISK in the OS/2 Command Reference.
>

Thank you.
I read manual before.
I added fsfilter.sys to my config.sys file and copied fsaccess.exe to the
diskette.
It seems that system didn't read config.sys at all or maybe I have to read
manual further.

Slava



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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             01-Nov-99 10:36:06
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:20
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On 29 Oct 1999 22:10:08 GMT, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:

>There is no "220 MB-per-allocation" limit.  There is a limit for how
>much virtual memory an application [*] can see: 512M.  A lot of these
>512M are reserved for shared areas, DLL areas etc.  What remains is
>somewhat like 220M of virtual memory (this digit is a result of
>experiments) available for application-requested memory.
Correct (mostly). Actually, it gets even more complicated with Warp 3 SMP and
Warp Server for e-Bsuiness (Aurora).
There is 512mb in the "compatibility region" starting at address 64k. There
is a system arena at the 4gb line and going down.
The compatibility region is divided into private and shared regions  (we'll
leave out discussion of protected, packed, and "global shared" regions). 
There is a minimum of 64mb in each of the private and shared arena. To start
with, a pretty empty system probably grabs around 200+mb of shared memory for
DLLs and shared data (the figure is very approximate).  Applications can
allocate private and shared memory, thus growing the bottom of the shared
arena (which started at 512mb) down toward the top of the private arena
(which started at 64kb). So, you see, the maximum you can allocate out of
shared or private memory is related to what everyone else in the system has
already allocated. One thing it is NOT related to in most cases is the amount
of physical memory.  In the SMP + WSEB cases, there is also "high memory."
The High Memory Area (HMA) is the area starting at 512mb and oing up the the
value specified by VIRTUALADDRESSLIMIT (default is 2gb).  The system arena
starts after the HMA. The HMA is divided into private and shared HMAs in a
manner similar to the compatibility region. Apps that use appropriate APIs,
such as DB2 (but not any Lotus products, unfortunately), can allocate more
buffers out of the compat region.

As you see, there are many variables. This is not a subject for the faint of
heart.


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From: furd@mit.edu                                      01-Nov-99 10:29:11
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:20
Subj: Re: GA-71X and Warp Memory Detection

From: "Frank Field" <furd@mit.edu>

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:10:32 -0400 (EDT), Frank Field wrote:

:>I've been casting around for ideas/strategies; I've got one of the new
:>Athlon boards (the Gigabyte 71X) and, although OS/2 installs just
:>swimmingly, it only detects a little over 64 megabaytes of the
:>256 megabytes installed.  Toggling the "Memory above 64 megs" flag
:>in the BIOS to "OS2" makes things worse; then only 16 megs are
:>found.
:>

It may be too soon to celebrate, but I got an e-mail from Gigabyte
Tech Support in Germany with a ZIP file containing the
AWDFLASH utility and a new 7ix.11 BIOS patch file.  It doesn't
match anything on the Gigabyte site at the moment, so this may
be the fix - the e-mail merely said "here's your file, Mr. Field."

I can't test it here, but I hope to get some information soon.
At any rate, it's a sign that someone exists out there, even though
it seems to take quite a bit of effort to get them to take notice.

I'll try to keep everyone updated........




Frank Field
furd@alum.mit.edu
O-


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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                01-Nov-99 17:21:03
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:20
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>


Antonio Relyea wrote:

> That 64MB thing is old hat.  The option is still there (AFAIK) for OS/2 2.11
> and below.  I run 72MB and while DOS can't see it all, OS/2 does just fine.

Indeed, that >64MB bios setting is old hat.
The >64MB problem with new mobo's (e.g. DIMM modules only) certainly is not !

The patient explainer.

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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         01-Nov-99 16:43:07
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:20
Subj: Nice news for a change

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

Just wanted to update anyone who was interested in the saga I've been
having with our OS/2 PSF/2 print server.

Well, this weekend it went through it's first month end (lotsa
statement print jobs) without a single glitch.  *knocks on a lotta
wood*  So I'm hoping that it's going to work out. :)

Thought some good news would be a nice change. :)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    01-Nov-99 17:35:05
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Netscape dies attempting to print

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

Netscape 4.61, Warp 4 FP6.

Trying to print a page, I get a message about an improper spool format,
and *ALL* the running instances of the browser die (there ware about 10 of
them).


11-01-1999  12:31:08  SYS3184  PID 003f  TID 000c  Slot 007f
D:\NETSCAPE4\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c000009b
0012442b
EAX=00000000  EBX=0189d770  ECX=1bff002c  EDX=00000000
ESI=012a5f79  EDI=01bc5a50  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:0012442b  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0779bec8  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=0779bf14  FLG=00012246

NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:0011442b



Pierre
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     01-Nov-99 17:52:06
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:01:42, Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> >Surely you didn't think that you could just type BOOTOS2 at a command
> >line and it would read your mind and figure ....
> 
> That's on my to-do list for a future release (and that's going to be
> *real* interesting to
> document <g>).
> 
> Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
> 

It's going to be even more interesting to program. Let's see now:
==================================
IF (USER = INTELIGENT)
DO
	What he wants
END
else 
DO
	something else, so he will never use this program again
END
==================================

Just a suggestion <g>...
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        01-Nov-99 18:14:03
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: EWS - was: Re: Bootos2 options

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <7vhjjm$9nu$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, kenkahn@us.ibm.com writes:
>In article <381b66ee$2$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>,
>  lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
>
>> Sorry, documentation for free programs is SUPPOSED to be
>unclear.
>
>For those that are not aware of this fact, programs such as
>BOOTOS2 are made available to 'externals' (that's you guys)
>via the OS/2 EWS (Employee Written Software) program.  For the
>most they are completely written and maintained by the Author
>(that's me). 

Firstly, thanks Ken for such a great product in the first place. It's also
really good to see you providing regular updates.

As for EWS, this seems to largely disappeared, and I can't think of any other
program which is maintained. There are loads of 'must haves', which I would
recommend everyone to try out: TVFS, CCP, QSYSTEM, OS20MEMU, GSEE, TSHELL
are among my favourites, but there are no new updates on the EWS web site.

If they are no longer being maintained, is there any chance that the source
code
from these programs could be released into the public domain, so that at least
we had the chance to prolong their usefulness. OS20MEMU in particular is/was
excellent at displaying memory, but it doesn't work under Aurora

> They are not the product of some department with
>a budget and an ID staff.  Everything you see in BOOTOS2 was
>done completely on my own time by myself, including the terrible
>documentation.  I admit it leaves a lot to be desired, but, dam
>it Jim, I'm a programmer, not a writter (oops, wrong program).
>
>If anyone thinks they can do a better job, please do so and send
>it to me; I'll give you full credit (albeit no salary).
>
>Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
--
John

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        01-Nov-99 18:28:06
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Reinstalling Warp 4

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-HdoULccHdztz@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
>On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:45:49, Mark Schlegel <moschleg@erols.com> a crit 
>dans un message:
>
>> Svein Sandersen wrote:
>> > 
>> > I decided to clean up my 1996 warp 4 installation, so I started from
>> > scratch.
>> > Applied FP12, installed Netscape 2.02, TCP/IP 4.1, Java 1.1.8, latest
>> > DOSBOX, sb16 sound in winos2
>> > But now I just cant remember where to go next. Do I have to install
>> > this win32s-thing before installing RealPlayer?
>> > 
>> > And what about MPTN? I have not done anything there yet.
>> > What steps are neccessary to get the system updated?
>> > I seem to remember going through several steps?
>> > 
>> > Indeed, it would be nice to have a cd with the whole thing updated and
>> > ready to go!
>> 
>> Yeah, there is such a thing (almost) it's called the Indelible Blue
>> "WarpUp" CD, see:
>> 
>> http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/latestwarp4.html
>> 
>> http://www.indelible-blue.com/product/IBI203
>> 
>> of course you have to install the base os from the 
>> ibm CD then do the Warpup after, so it's not as nice as
>> what you really are wanting, which is a New IBM client
>> release that would be up-to-date directly.
>
>And just because I've spent (wasted, so far) lots of time trying to figure 
>out how to create a virtual "Manufacturer's Refresh" CD that would install 
>a current, or at least useful, level of Warp 4, I'll jump in to say that's 
>what the original "nice to have" comment referred to, and it doesn't yet 
>exist.

I have been trying  devise a REXX program for refreshing a copy of the
CD's OS2IMAGE directory, using OS/2 FixPacks.

The main obstacle to this is the use of IBM proprietery archiving format
which is used extensively in the formation of archives or 'bundles'. These
are unarchived using the UNPACK utility, but there are no options for simply
viewing the contents of these archives - ok there is the /SHOW option, but
this will not provide details of the timestamp or filesize. If these options
were
available - it wouldn't be too difficult to refresh OS2IMAGE. 

>The first reboot of a late FP Warp 4 system that has had a fresh install of
>the original distribution CD is nearly guaranteed to have problems. You 
>have to reboot, let it do CLEANUP, then get somehow to a SERVICE.EXE reboot
>to apply the FP (anything past 10 seems to be helpful) that gets you back 
>to using your system.
>
>We were trying to suss out the UNPACK/REPACK packages that had to be 
>modified to get to that, I think. I haven't heard of anybody getting far 
>enough to make a test burn of such a CD.
>
>That's a nice feature of using WSeB, by the way. Except that any JFS 
>partition that has been using the "Warp 4.5" update JFS.IFS seems to demand
>the latest JFS.IFS, and SET COPYFROMFLOPPY does *not* copy in the new 
>JFS.IFS from updated diskettes, so you have to do it manually.
>
>
>Good luck,
>
>Buddy
>
>Buddy Donnelly
>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
>
>

--
John

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           01-Nov-99 13:50:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <381DCC01.CC4AD8C8@cranfield.ac.uk>, on 11/01/99 at 05:21 PM,
   Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk> said:

> Indeed, that >64MB bios setting is old hat.
> The >64MB problem with new mobo's (e.g. DIMM modules only) certainly is
> not !

> The patient explainer.

You are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. I have installed Warp 4, WSEB, etc. on
a minimum of 200 different machines with DIMMS and greater than 64 megs of
memory. It was all seen on every one of them and there are at least 30
different motherboards and chipsets involved.


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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Nov-99 13:48:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

kenkahn@us.ibm.com said:

>>does NOT contain the word "syntax" anywhere.

>(Note to self; remove *all* reference to word syntax from DOC file) <g>

Just to put my money where my mouth is, guys and gals, I have submitted a
slightly revised documentation file to Ken.  And it does, BTW, use the word
"systax," abeit differently.  I think it makes things somewhat more
understandably for the rank beginner; it does NOT comply with the "avoid
certain
users" recommendations Doug posted.  We'll see what Ken thinks about it.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Nov-99 13:57:24
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

kenkahn@us.ibm.com said:

>The purpose of the SOURCE= option, as specified in the DOC file, is to locate
>special files usually only located on your OS/2 install disks; i.e. SYSINSTX,
>VTBL850.DCP and KEYBOARD.DCP;  SOURCE= allows you to tell BOOTOS2 an
alternate
>location where to find these files.

When I use this option with 2DISK I get a disk full error and halt at the
first
disk.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          01-Nov-99 22:43:21
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 19:58:09
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:08:35, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) a 
crit dans un message:

> I still haven't tested the add-on port 
> card to see if it works any differently.

And it still doesn't matter; BIDI ain't active, though I've got all the 
pieces in place.


> 
> Two things you can change to solve the "hang" feeling. Lower the Print 
> Priority in the Settings for that printer object, on the page after the 
> Port assignment. I normally set to the lowest possible priority 
> automatically.

I should have named that correctly. It's the "Queue Priority" setting on 
the Queue Options page.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: camilla@primenet.com                              02-Nov-99 00:48:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Need new tape backup

From: Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)

I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
often.  (Long history of failures here).

I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. 
Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



-------------------------------------------------------------
"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
                   that your brain falls out"

                    Camilla Cracchiolo
                     Registered Nurse
                  Los Angeles, California 
                          USA

camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla


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From: sruli87202@aol.com                                01-Nov-99 23:10:27
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: OS/2 Boot disks with Iomega Jazz drives

From: sruli87202@aol.com (SRuli87202)

Can somebody please help me out here?  I am trying to create a set of OS\2
boot
disks that can access my Iomega 1GB Jazz drive.  

My normal OS\2 setup on my hard drive already has the ability to access this
drive.  The only thing that I had to do to accomplish that was to install
fixpack 8 on my PC.  Unfortunately, there is no way that I know of to install
a
fixpack on a set of boot disks.

At this point I have been able to figure out that I need at least these two
files on the second boot disk to be able to access the designated drive form
that drive:
     IBMATAPI.FLT
     ASC.ADD
The lines in my config.sys file read as follows:
     basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT;
     basedev=asc.add;

When I looked in my config.sys file for my regular setup, I could not find any
reference to a SCSI device driver so I assume that the fix pack must also have
taken care of that.

At this point I am able to boot off of these disks and I can actually point to
the drive letter for the jazz drive but when I try to do a directory listing
for it, it gives me an error message that say 
     SYS0026: The specified disk or diskette cannot be accessed.

I should also mention that the jazz drive is formatted as an HPFS partition.

So here's my question.  How can I modify the boot disks so I can actually
access the files on this drive?

Any help that I could get on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
Steven Rulison


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From: Valheru@guesswhere.com                            01-Nov-99 18:28:05
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Bad Install disk

From: "Valheru" <Valheru@guesswhere.com>

Does anyone know where I can get an image of a warp v3 red spine install
disk? The package I just bought from Ebay has a bad install disk. Thanks




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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          02-Nov-99 07:40:27
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: Notes Mail 4.1

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

Or you can save yourself all the hassle and download PostRoad
Mailer from Hobbes

IMHO Lotus Notes is a lot of bloat just to send and receive e-mail

:-)

Cheers

Wayne


On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:35:02 -1000, John Twelker wrote:

:>
:>
:>William Pridgen wrote:
:>
:>> I'm on the verge of re-installing Warp 4, after a long hiatus.  Does
:>> anyone use the Lotus Notes Mail that comes on a CD in the Warp 4 box?
:>> Is it any good?  Thanks in advance.
:>>
:>> --
:>> Bill Pridgen
:>
:>Before you can use Lotus Notes for your e-mail client,
:>   you have some work to do. (If for some reason you're
:>   RE-installing Lotus Notes Mail client, save files
:>   "names. nsf" and "popmail.nsf" to a safe place if you
:>   have data in them you want to save ... then after
:>   re-installing, copy them back to [Drive:]\Notes\Data
:>   overwriting the new empty files).
:>
:>   1) Install Lotus Notes from Applications Sampler
:>   CD-ROM from OS/2 Window. Change directory to g:
:>   then os2\install and type "instpm".
:>
:>   2) Download and install the latest 4.1x upgrade to Lotus
:>   Notes Mail (named OS2WRKD.EXE) from
:>   http://www.notes.net/downqmr.nsf/Download+File . You
:>   should be able to go from Lotus Notes Mail 4.1 directly
:>   to 4.15 update ... I tested this and it worked fine for me.
:>   However, some users have reported that this update
:>   method failed and they had to install every incremental
:>   upgrade, i.e. 4.1 > 4.11a; then 4.11a > 4.12; then 4.12 >
:>   4.13; then 4.13 > 4.14 and finally, 4.14 > 4.15. Note #1:
:>   each incremental upgrade has the name
:>   OS2WRKD.EXE. Therefore, after downloading 4.11a,
:>   change its name to OS2WRKD1.EXE; after
:>   downloading 4.12, change its name to
:>   OS2WRKD2.EXE; and so on. Changing the name won't
:>   affect how it works when you doubleclick it to install
:>   the upgrade. Note #2: for some reason, the ftp
:>   download site index lacks the 4.15 upgrade ... so if you
:>   use the ftp site, be sure to load the 4.15 upgrade from
:>   http://www.notes.net/downqmr.nsf/Download+File .
:>
:>   3) Download the file which contains the Lotus Notes
:>   Mail database INETHELP.NSF which allows the
:>   program to send and receive via ISP. You can dl it from
:>   two sources that I know of: a) NOTEINET.ZIP from
:>   http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/notes; or
:>   b) NOTESNET.ZIP from http://www.os2bbs.com if
:>   you're a subscriber to their service. In June, 1997,
:>   IBM/Lotus updated their website support to Notes 4.5so
:>   the file is no longer available there.
:>
:>   4) Put INETHELP.NSF into your Notes data path
:>   directory. (You can determine this by selecting the
:>   File->Tools->User Preferences menu option inside of
:>   Notes. The data path is shown in the Local database
:>   folder setting.) Start Notes 4.x if you haven't already.
:>   Add the new database by selecting
:>   File->Database->Open from the Notes menubar.
:>
:>   5) From within the About document, click on the doclink
:>   to go directly to the "Installing IBM OS/2 Internet Mail
:>   Client Support for Lotus Notes" document inside the
:>   Notes database. Follow the instructions listed there to
:>   complete the install. REMEMBER TO RESTART
:>   NOTES AFTER RUNNING THE INSTALL
:>   PROCEDURE TO LOAD THE INTERNET CLIENT
:>   SUPPORT. Failure to do so will cause your new mail to
:>   go into your standard Notes outbox, instead of the
:>   Internet outbox.
:>
:>   6) (Optional) To add previous Address book and e-mail,
:>   move files "names. nsf" and "popmail.nsf" to
:>   d:\notes\data
:>
:>   Congratulations! You now have a unique e-mail clients
:>   ... eloquent, professional and powerful with a clean user
:>   interface. You'll really like the cool Address Book and
:>   addressing new mail ... you just start typing the contacts
:>   actual name and Notes Mail fills in the rest for you. No
:>   need to remember aliases or nicknames, an especially
:>   good feature if you have a big Address Book. Also, you
:>   can use the Address Book as a PIM if you like ... it has
:>   windows for both Business and Home data. Enjoy!
:>
:>   By the way, Lotus Notes Mail 4.1x does have a couple
:>   of limitations. The first, it can't load mail with multiple
:>   headers without crashing BDMAIN.EXE. Second, it
:>   can't load mail with paragraphs larger than 64K.
:>   Fortunately, those instances are usually few and far
:>   between.
:>
:>Aloha,
:>
:>John Twelker
:>Maui
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: erwintech@earthlink.net                           01-Nov-99 18:34:19
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 Boot disks with Iomega Jazz drives

From: Dale Erwin <erwintech@earthlink.net>


SRuli87202 wrote:
> 
> Can somebody please help me out here?  I am trying to create a set of OS\2
boot
> disks that can access my Iomega 1GB Jazz drive.
> 
> My normal OS\2 setup on my hard drive already has the ability to access this
> drive.  The only thing that I had to do to accomplish that was to install
> fixpack 8 on my PC.  Unfortunately, there is no way that I know of to
install a
> fixpack on a set of boot disks.
> 
> At this point I have been able to figure out that I need at least these two
> files on the second boot disk to be able to access the designated drive form
> that drive:
>      IBMATAPI.FLT
>      ASC.ADD
> The lines in my config.sys file read as follows:
>      basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT;
>      basedev=asc.add;
> 
> When I looked in my config.sys file for my regular setup, I could not find
any
> reference to a SCSI device driver so I assume that the fix pack must also
have
> taken care of that.
> 
> At this point I am able to boot off of these disks and I can actually point
to
> the drive letter for the jazz drive but when I try to do a directory listing
> for it, it gives me an error message that say
>      SYS0026: The specified disk or diskette cannot be accessed.
> 
> I should also mention that the jazz drive is formatted as an HPFS partition.
> 
> So here's my question.  How can I modify the boot disks so I can actually
> access the files on this drive?
> 
> Any help that I could get on this would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Steven Rulison

If you run the BootOS2 utility from the boot drive on which your FixPak
8 
system resides, it should use those fixed files to create the boot
disks.
I have no trouble with my BootOS2 system accessing my SyJet 1.5 GB
drive.
Of course, mine is not on diskette, but on a small HD partition.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas

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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             01-Nov-99 19:41:06
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: Bad Install disk

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

Do you have the CD-ROM? The images of the floppies are somewhere on the CD,
but I don't rmember in which directory.

Alan


Valheru wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get an image of a warp v3 red spine install
> disk? The package I just bought from Ebay has a bad install disk. Thanks

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From: jnichols@tcia.net                                 01-Nov-99 19:35:25
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: Bad Install disk

From: jnichols@tcia.net

In <381e21ce_3@news1.prserv.net>, on 11/01/99 
   at 06:28 PM, "Valheru" <Valheru@guesswhere.com> said:

>Does anyone know where I can get an image of a warp v3 red spine install
>disk? The package I just bought from Ebay has a bad install disk. Thanks

Run cdinst.bat off the Warp 3 cd from the dos prompt.

Are cdinst.cmd off the Warp 3 cd from the OS/2 window.

Later,
Nick


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From: August.Abolins@613-100.m-net.axe...               02-Nov-99 00:59:19
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: 2 Adaptec SCSI's compatible?

Message sender: August.Abolins@613-100.m-net.axess.com

From: August.Abolins@613-100.m-net.axess.com (August Abolins)

 >>> I was thinking of adding an Agfa SnapScan 1236s (SCSI) scanner to a
 >>> long-time old 486dx2-50 (32meg), Warp 3 redspine (no fixpaks) system. 
 >>> The PC already features a Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card which features
 >>> an Adaptec AHA-15xxSomething, which  controls the SCSI cdrom unit. 
 >>> The scanner comes along with a SCSI card.  It apparently is an
 >>> Adaptec AVA-1505...

 h> I must be missing something here . . . do they make scsi adapter cards 
 h> which will only accept one device ? One of the loveliest things about 
 h> SCSI is adding a whole bunch of devices to one card with one IRQ. Why
 h> would you want two cards for only two devices ? 

The problem is that the EXISTING Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card only supports ONE
device (there's only one internal connector which currently goes to the
internal cdrom).

The Agfa scanner INCLUDES the AVA-1505 card.  I would assume that it may have
limited multi-device support apart from supporting the one scanner device.

If, after purchasing the scanner, the AVA-1505 can support other SCSI-devices,
then I would be very happy indeed.  I may even consider retiring the
SoundBlaster 16 SCSI-2 card and just get another sound card.  Then I could use
the AVA-1505 for additional SCSI devices in the future?


 .aa.
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Nov-99 19:59:21
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com> said:

>Common problems are using the wrong version of KEYBOARD.DCP
>(the version on the install disks is about 30k, compared to the one
>used by the main OS/2 system which is about 300k).

I'd say that's it.  I see the following note in your docs.

                    Note:  Do *not* specify SOURCE=A if you intend to use
                             the OS/2 Install Disks as your source for the
                             required files.

After reading your note, I'd say you also need.

                    Note:  Do not place the files from the init disks into
                             the [X]:\OS2\BOOT directory if you wish to try
                             the SOURCE= option.    <g>

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: mmellin@home.com                                  02-Nov-99 05:04:17
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 03:18:29
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 03:08:41, Michael Schmidt <mschmidt@home.com> wrote:


>> Make sure the the first line in your config.sys is for the
>> hpfs driver.
 
> And that little piece of tribal knowledge should be tossed out somehow
> every few weeks - it would save a few kWh worth of reboots.


I'm not a ISO engineer by any stretch - but without a doubt, my
hardware's MTBF figures were severely altered during this P2P
install attempt - If I had half an ounce of OS/2 sense... I'da hit
Deja searching for "peer" & "os/2" & "screwed" *before* I undertook
what seemed like a routine install ...

I still don't know which or where the problem was - the first line in
my config.sys is/was a REM line, and nearly all the path statements
were over 255....

The "fix" was to backup my existing config.sys, copy the original
installation config.sys from C:\OS2\INSTALL, installed P2P, migrated
the changes back to my Config.Sys and applied the P2P CSD

It's up, it's running, and I think I'm still bleeding over this
electronic anurisim !!!  

Thanks again to all who e-mailed/responded with the help.
Mark Mellin


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From: fwkirk@ibm.net                                    02-Nov-99 06:10:01
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 03:18:29
Subj: Re: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:23:16, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
wrote:

> No, you'll be happy to know that IBM doens't agree with you. Their License 
> Agreement says you bought the software, not the media (sic transit) it 
> resides on. They are forthcoming with new media for just about any good 
> story.

	Are they just as reasonable with manuals/user's guides?  I've still 
got all my media, but I had lots of manuals get washed away with 
Hurricane Floyd.

FWK

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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au                               02-Nov-99 07:42:04
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 05:18:28
Subj: Question about IP numbers

From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

I understand that "nslookup" or "host" will give the domain 
name
of an IP number, but can some knowledgable person advise how
to find the IP number of a website that gives you its "name"
in the netscape title?

Writing this offline and think I have the answer now but it 
leads to a further question "Where does one find the options
(or syntax) of nslookup?"

Thanks
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net



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From: matt196@mindspring.com                            02-Nov-99 03:42:10
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 05:18:28
Subj: Java 1.1.8 or 1.1.7????????

From: Nelson and Satasha Williams <matt196@mindspring.com>

Which Java should I upgrade too?  I noticed that 1.1.7 has later file
dates than the 1.1.8, so I'm kinda confused.


Nelson
"Currently running Fixpack 5, preparing to go to 12"


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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk                         02-Nov-99 09:27:29
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: OS/2 Boot disks with Iomega Jazz drives

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>

On 01 Nov 1999 23:10:54 GMT, SRuli87202 wrote:

>Can somebody please help me out here?  I am trying to create a set of OS\2
boot
>disks that can access my Iomega 1GB Jazz drive.  
>
>My normal OS\2 setup on my hard drive already has the ability to access this
>drive.  The only thing that I had to do to accomplish that was to install
>fixpack 8 on my PC.  Unfortunately, there is no way that I know of to install 
a
>fixpack on a set of boot disks.
>
>At this point I have been able to figure out that I need at least these two
>files on the second boot disk to be able to access the designated drive form
>that drive:
>     IBMATAPI.FLT
>     ASC.ADD
>The lines in my config.sys file read as follows:
>     basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT;
>     basedev=asc.add;
>
>When I looked in my config.sys file for my regular setup, I could not find
any
>reference to a SCSI device driver so I assume that the fix pack must also
have
>taken care of that.
>
From my config.sys I find these files:

DEVICE=C:\OAD\OS2.SYS      
BASEDEV=IOMGDRV.FLT        
RUN=c:\IOMGOS2\IOMGSYNC.EXE

This is using FP6 and a ZIP drive, but my understanding is that some of
these may be relevant to Jaz drives as well. Check to see if you've got
any Iomega-specific files  being installed. I think there's also some
files the system expects to find on the boot disk to tell it exactly
what Iomega drives are present, you may need to provide those even if
they aren't mentioned in config.sys.

Dave
-- 
mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!


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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                02-Nov-99 11:29:13
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: Traps Galore! :-(

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>


"Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" wrote:

> Can anyone shed any light on this one?
>
> I keep getting traps, I've seen various C, D and E traps but all at
> 0168:fff536f0.
>
> They appear with no warning, whether the computer is doing something or
> not (usually within a couple of hours since last reboot). I even
> restored a backup from July when it was nice and stable, so I'm hoping
> it isn't software-related.
>
> I'm guessing one of the bits of hardware is doing something stupid but
> as yet I've got no clues as to which one.
>
> System is a K6II-400 with a Matrox G200 video card, Tekram DC390W SCSI
> controller, AWE32 PnP soundcard, no-name ethernet card (which has been
> in the machine for some time) with 128MB RAM.

On top of this, I also experienced system hangs, random errors in programs
or modules (like my ethernet card driver). Plus the CPU power was 25% down
(running at the right MHz etc.)
Turns out my 2nd level cache is corrupt, 'cause when I disabled it in the
BIOS settings, all was (and is) well.
Check if your CPU is running at full number crunching speed.

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From: tgalley@pironet.com                               02-Nov-99 11:58:07
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: Thomas Galley <tgalley@pironet.com>

Hey!

As far as I know, you can get the machine's IP Address where the site
runs upon, that is, if you have a domain: www.win-sucks.com, you can get
the IP address of the server via nslookup (nslookup www.win-sucks.com).
As for the single pages, they won't have an IP. Unfortunately, I am not
at home in front of my OS/2-machine, but I think the on-line manuals
should give you the complete syntax.

Greetings/2

Thomas

Richard A Crane wrote:
> 
> I understand that "nslookup" or "host" will give the domain
> name
> of an IP number, but can some knowledgable person advise how
> to find the IP number of a website that gives you its "name"
> in the netscape title?
> 
> Writing this offline and think I have the answer now but it
> leads to a further question "Where does one find the options
> (or syntax) of nslookup?"
> 
> Thanks
> Richard A Crane
> Barrister & Solicitor
> slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> octa4.net.au
> OR rcrane AT attglobal.net
> 
> 
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mailto:tgalley@pironet.com - http://www.pironet.com
certified professional Java Programmer (see link below)
http://www.tekmetrics.com/transcript.shtml?pid=57102

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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                02-Nov-99 07:01:19
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: os2krnld  Debug kernal

From: Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com>

All debug kernals can be found at

  ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/debug

In your case you would want m009hst (HSTRICT) or m009ast (ALLSTRICT).

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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                02-Nov-99 12:35:17
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 05:10:10, James Moe 
<sma.spam-not@rtd.com> wrote:

    I have been using the Logitech "Marble," a trackball-like mouse. It
needs no special driver. It works as though it were a mobile rodent.
Just plugged it into the ps/2 port...

I've been using this one, too, for about a year and a half 
and I love it. I'll never even consider using a mouse again.

I use mine with a shareware program with it called MSE which
provides 3rd button functionality of an unbelievable nature.
With all three buttons, altogether you can have your mouse 
clicks do 24 different operations - from the default OS/2 
operations to rolling windows up and down, hiding windows, 
moving windows to the back, to the front, etc.


________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

To send email - remove the `yyy'
________________________________________________________

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           02-Nov-99 08:03:00
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: Break-in -- Where in IBM do I go to get media replacement?

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <381E1206.1878A516@mail.bv.no>, on 11/01/99 at 11:19 PM,
   Bjrn Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no> said:

> . Of course, if you're not an IBM customer but a customer of a third
> party, you should go there first. After all, they got a really big
> discount from IBM in order to handle all first-line customer support.

This is not true of out of date products. The original request regarded
Warp 3 which is no longer supported. And unless one has a corporate
account with IBM one must use the 800 numbers and will get a runaround.

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            02-Nov-99 14:59:24
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <381E32FC.6C37C00F@bogusdomain.com>, Robert Basler <bogus@bogusdomain.com>
writes:
>I'm trying to get Ultimail 2.10.004 to work on OS/2 WSeB, I couldn't
>find any way to install just ultimail from the Warp 4 CD's, so I copied
>my UMAIL directory and mailstor over wholesale from my working Warp 4
>system, then put the SENDMAIL.UML file into the MPTN directory.  Note
>that all paths are the same on both systems.
>
>It will send and recieve mail as long as you are connected to the
>internet.
>
>If you are not connected and send a message, it says that it was queued
>successfully, but there is no message in the MQUEUE directory and the
>message text can be found in a file called DEADLET.TER in the MPTN\ETC
>directory.
>
>I have the ETC dir set to MPTN\ETC
>
>When I connect to the internet, it does not do the sendmail thing in the
>status window, but I suspect that this has more to do with there being
>no files in the MQUEUE directory, rather than some problem with that
>program feature.
>
>Suggestions???  I really want to stick to Ultimail since I have
>thousands of archived messages that I access regularly and have been
>very happy with the app in general to date.
>
>This is what I got when I ran UMCHECK.CMD
>
>The key "AURORASW /MAIL_GW" in D:\MPTN\ETC\TCPOS2.INI was not found!
>No "Mlocal" line was found in D:\MPTN\ETC\SENDMAIL.CF!
>
>Installation information:
>  The UltiMail provider is ADVANTIS
>  TMP = D:\TCPIP\TMP
>  ETC = D:\MPTN\ETC
>  SRV = D:\TCPIP\UMAIL\SERVER
>  CONNECTION = AURORASW
>  POPSRVR = mail.direct.ca
>  REPLY_DOMAIN = direct.ca
>  MQueue from SENDMAIL.CF:  D:\MPTN\ETC\MQUEUE
>  DD from SENDMAIL.CF:      Your.Domain
>  MQueue from SENDMAIL.UML: D:\MPTN\ETC\MQUEUE
>  Mlocal from SENDMAIL.UML: Mlocal  P=d:\tcpip\umail\umailer.exe
>F=lsmDFP
>S=10  R=0  A=-dest d:\tcpip\umail\server\inbox -to $u
>
>FYI my email address above is bogus, send email to: aurorasw direct ca
>after inserting appropriate ats and dots, thanks.
>

I noticed the same problem after installing mpts wr08600(included
with tcpip v4.1), wr08610, and wr08620 on Warp 4.

After many installs, many postings, and even reporting this to IBM,
I have not found the cause of the problem, or a possible solution.

Like you, I would like to be able to use my UML with the "32 bit"
stacks, and hope someone shows up with some answers or some ideas
of what can be tried.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            02-Nov-99 08:07:25
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

I won't quibble.  I run PMMail as my main mailer on my home machine.

Nick Knight wrote:
> 
> In <381EFAE0.77DBB58@attglobal.net>, on 11/02/99
>    at 07:53 AM, Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net> said:
> 
> >Most people have given up on Ultimail under OS/2.  I would suggest that
> >you look at other mailers.  Innoval has made both of their mailers, Post
> >Road Mailer and JSteet Mailer public domain.  There is an active group of
> >knowledgable Java programmers who have been fixing up and improving
> >JStreet into a very usable product.  Both products run fine under WSeB.
> 
> Although, it would benefit him greatly to shop around.  "Free" may be an
> ultimate enticement for some, but there are two other award-winning
> mailers on the OS/2 block to consider:  PM Mail and MR/2.  These are both,
> already, "very usable products".
> 
> I'll leave it to the PM Mail advocates to paste in a URL, I don't have it.
> However, information about MR/2 ICE can be acquired from:
> 
>     http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm
> 
> NOTE that MR/2 development is still active.  In fact, I'm preparing to
> release a v2.0 before the end of the year.
> 
> Nick
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Nick Knight  <nick@secant.com>       http://nick.secant.com
> Senior Software Engineer
> Secant Technologies, Inc.             http://www.secant.com
> -----------------------------------------------------------

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov                          02-Nov-99 08:55:24
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: EWS - was: Re: Bootos2 options

From: Bennie Nelson <b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov>

John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> In <7vhjjm$9nu$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, kenkahn@us.ibm.com writes:
> >In article <381b66ee$2$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>,
> >  lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, documentation for free programs is SUPPOSED to be
> >unclear.
> >
> >For those that are not aware of this fact, programs such as
> >BOOTOS2 are made available to 'externals' (that's you guys)
> >via the OS/2 EWS (Employee Written Software) program.  For the
> >most they are completely written and maintained by the Author
> >(that's me).
> 
> Firstly, thanks Ken for such a great product in the first place. It's also
> really good to see you providing regular updates.
> 
> As for EWS, this seems to largely disappeared, and I can't think of any
other
> program which is maintained. There are loads of 'must haves', which I would
> recommend everyone to try out: TVFS, CCP, QSYSTEM, OS20MEMU, GSEE, TSHELL
> are among my favourites, but there are no new updates on the EWS web site.
> 

My personal favorites from the IBM EWS catalog are:

Megadesk (virtual desktops)
Shift run (boot up command utility)
GoServe (Gopher and HTTP webserver)
GFC (graphical file comparison)
ENVED (environment editor)

Regards,
Bennie Nelson

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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au                               02-Nov-99 14:04:25
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

The following ngs trimmed from reply: 
comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.bugs,comp.os.os2.marketplace,co
mp.os.os2.networking.misc,


On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:48:05, Camilla Cracchiolo 
<camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.) wrote:

> 
> I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  
> 
> I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
> tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
> often.  (Long history of failures here).
> 
> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
> experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. 
> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> 
> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
> newsgroup.

As someone who has had 2 x shortlived Seagate 8Gb SCSI  tape
drives and 3 other shortlived Seagate products and purchased
both Backmaster and Backagain/2:
a) I cannot recommend any Seagate product;
b) Backmaster didn't suppport the Seagate SCSI drive (out of
the box - I don't know if they have posted a update or 
upgrade that does - my own experience with Backmaster is 
that it has a 100% failure rate on making restoreable 
backups on equipment allegedly supported;
c) Backagain works well with the Seagate tape unit but also 
seems to create apparently successful backups that aren't 
(or if they are are non restoreable) on occassion (to often 
for me to have any confidence in it alone as a backup)

I recommend that you invest in downloading and learning the 
linux like ports that are around (i would say more but I 
haven't as yet had the time to figure them out (learning 
curve like a ski jump).

Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: Valheru@guesswhere.com                            02-Nov-99 09:16:16
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Bad Install disk

From: "Valheru" <Valheru@guesswhere.com>

I just called IBM and they want me to either buy a new contract, buy version
4, or go to egghead and buy version 3 which is on back order 30 days+.
Arrghhhh !!!!


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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 02-Nov-99 08:47:29
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Asus Mthrbds

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Clarence wrote:
> 
> Anyone aware of any Asus motherboards supporting AMD's Athlon. Unable to
> find any mention of support on their web site (though AMD's site
> mentions them as one of the supporting manufacturers).

They are a bit behind the other supporters...I belive, because of
Intel pressure they abandoned the project for a time!
But they should have one UNI-mobo almost ready for release!

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.


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From: thaimann@dmreg.infi.net                           02-Nov-99 08:21:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Printers

From: "Terry Haimann" <thaimann@dmreg.infi.net>

I believe my HP DeskJet 500 just died and therefore I need to replace it.  I
would like a printer that has its own cpu & memory (Lexmark 5700 NOT) and one
that is also Linux freindly, what are my best choices?

Thx	Terry.


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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            02-Nov-99 07:58:08
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Printers

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

You can really get a good buy right now on the Lexmark Color 40.  It
runs well, has excellent color, and supports both PostScript and PCL5.

Terry Haimann wrote:
> 
> I believe my HP DeskJet 500 just died and therefore I need to replace it.  I
> would like a printer that has its own cpu & memory (Lexmark 5700 NOT) and
one
> that is also Linux freindly, what are my best choices?
> 
> Thx     Terry.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             02-Nov-99 09:29:07
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

Did you use the Verify option when you did your backups?

Alan


Richard A Crane wrote:

<snip>

> c) Backagain works well with the Seagate tape unit but also
> seems to create apparently successful backups that aren't
> (or if they are are non restoreable) on occassion (to often
> for me to have any confidence in it alone as a backup)

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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            02-Nov-99 07:56:29
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 or 1.1.7????????

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

Both are currently supported by IBM.  IMHO, Java 1.1.8 is preferred. 
Its performance seems to be quicker, and the updates you see to Java
1.1.7 appear to be bug fixes that were discovered during the 1.1.8 port
and were regressed back into the 1.1.7 update (hence the later dates).

Nelson and Satasha Williams wrote:
> 
> Which Java should I upgrade too?  I noticed that 1.1.7 has later file
> dates than the 1.1.8, so I'm kinda confused.
> 
> Nelson
> "Currently running Fixpack 5, preparing to go to 12"

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              02-Nov-99 14:37:23
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Using a networked HP LJ3100 ?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Michael Taylor wrote:
> 
> We have a HP LJ3100 installed on a NT Server V4 file and print
> server.
> 
> Is there any way I can print to it from OS/2 V4?
> 
> I know it is a WinPrinter and we have the HP JetSuite installed
> on the NT box. The NT4 WS boxes can print to it but only from Win
> Apps (ie "print' from the DOS command line doesn't work!).
> 
    The printer has to be shared from the NT box. You can then use it
from the os/2 system. You will also need an os/2 printer driver on your
system.


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     02-Nov-99 15:34:14
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

Michael Schmidt wrote:

> cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Make sure the the first line in your config.sys is for the
> > hpfs driver.
>
> And that little piece of tribal knowledge should be tossed out somehow
> every few weeks - it would save a few kWh worth of reboots.
>

Except if you have JFS installed. Then the first line MUST be
DEVICE=X:\OS2\BOOT\UNICODE.SYS


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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     02-Nov-99 15:54:10
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

Ted Miller wrote:

> ... The only anomaly I have noticed was in
> printing a 3 page file with an old english style true type font through IBM
> works. In this case it took several minutes to start printing and the
computer
> was almost in a hung condition during this period. Once printing started
> everything was released again. When I changed the font to a printer resident
> one printing was almost instantaneous. Obviously there is something about
this
> particular font that
> postscript doesn't like.
>

This is very logical - TT fonts work on TT printers, PS fonts on PostScript
printers.
When you print something with a True Type font to a PostScript printer, the
printer
driver has to convert everything into a graphical image before it is sent to
the
printer. If you print with a PS font which is not resident in the printer, the 
font
(or possibly only the part of it you actually use) is just included as part of 
the
print job. This adds very little overhead.

Generally speaking, TT fonts are not very good for printing  - they are not
really up
to the high professional standards of good PS fonts. If you have a PS printer, 
you
should avoid them altogether.


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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     02-Nov-99 16:15:27
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

Bob Germer wrote:

> On <381DCC01.CC4AD8C8@cranfield.ac.uk>, on 11/01/99 at 05:21 PM,
>    Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk> said:
>
> > Indeed, that >64MB bios setting is old hat.
> > The >64MB problem with new mobo's (e.g. DIMM modules only) certainly is
> > not !
>
> > The patient explainer.
>
> You are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. I have installed Warp 4, WSEB, etc. on
> a minimum of 200 different machines with DIMMS and greater than 64 megs of
> memory. It was all seen on every one of them and there are at least 30
> different motherboards and chipsets involved.
>

That does not prove that he is wrong, it only shows that you are naive.

Obviously, the 30 different motherboards you used are not among the ones which 
have this problem.
Youmay think your experience is extensive, but there are more than ten times
as many different
motherboards on the market. And, unfortunately, there are more than just two
different ways to
report installed RAM. I know of five or six in use even before the PCI bus
came along. And BIOS
reporting is not the only issue - another problem is that some hardware will
steal address ranges
(memory holes) for its own use. In some cases, this is 'PnP'-automatic,
designed on the assumption
that it is supposed to work under Windows. Paranoid people are free to believe 
that it is
deliberately rigged not to work with anything else, others will blame it on
ignorance.


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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            02-Nov-99 07:53:10
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

Most people have given up on Ultimail under OS/2.  I would suggest that
you look at other mailers.  Innoval has made both of their mailers, Post
Road Mailer and JSteet Mailer public domain.  There is an active group
of knowledgable Java programmers who have been fixing up and improving
JStreet into a very usable product.  Both products run fine under WSeB.

Robert Basler wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to get Ultimail 2.10.004 to work on OS/2 WSeB, I couldn't
> find any way to install just ultimail from the Warp 4 CD's, so I copied
> my UMAIL directory and mailstor over wholesale from my working Warp 4
> system, then put the SENDMAIL.UML file into the MPTN directory.  Note
> that all paths are the same on both systems.
> 
> It will send and recieve mail as long as you are connected to the
> internet.
> 
> If you are not connected and send a message, it says that it was queued
> successfully, but there is no message in the MQUEUE directory and the
> message text can be found in a file called DEADLET.TER in the MPTN\ETC
> directory.
> 
> I have the ETC dir set to MPTN\ETC
> 
> When I connect to the internet, it does not do the sendmail thing in the
> status window, but I suspect that this has more to do with there being
> no files in the MQUEUE directory, rather than some problem with that
> program feature.
> 
> Suggestions???  I really want to stick to Ultimail since I have
> thousands of archived messages that I access regularly and have been
> very happy with the app in general to date.
> 
> This is what I got when I ran UMCHECK.CMD
> 
> The key "AURORASW /MAIL_GW" in D:\MPTN\ETC\TCPOS2.INI was not found!
> No "Mlocal" line was found in D:\MPTN\ETC\SENDMAIL.CF!
> 
> Installation information:
>   The UltiMail provider is ADVANTIS
>   TMP = D:\TCPIP\TMP
>   ETC = D:\MPTN\ETC
>   SRV = D:\TCPIP\UMAIL\SERVER
>   CONNECTION = AURORASW
>   POPSRVR = mail.direct.ca
>   REPLY_DOMAIN = direct.ca
>   MQueue from SENDMAIL.CF:  D:\MPTN\ETC\MQUEUE
>   DD from SENDMAIL.CF:      Your.Domain
>   MQueue from SENDMAIL.UML: D:\MPTN\ETC\MQUEUE
>   Mlocal from SENDMAIL.UML: Mlocal  P=d:\tcpip\umail\umailer.exe
> F=lsmDFP
> S=10  R=0  A=-dest d:\tcpip\umail\server\inbox -to $u
> 
> FYI my email address above is bogus, send email to: aurorasw direct ca
> after inserting appropriate ats and dots, thanks.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: nick@secant.com                                   02-Nov-99 10:01:02
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: Nick Knight <nick@secant.com>

In <381EFAE0.77DBB58@attglobal.net>, on 11/02/99 
   at 07:53 AM, Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net> said:

>Most people have given up on Ultimail under OS/2.  I would suggest that
>you look at other mailers.  Innoval has made both of their mailers, Post
>Road Mailer and JSteet Mailer public domain.  There is an active group of
>knowledgable Java programmers who have been fixing up and improving
>JStreet into a very usable product.  Both products run fine under WSeB.

Although, it would benefit him greatly to shop around.  "Free" may be an
ultimate enticement for some, but there are two other award-winning
mailers on the OS/2 block to consider:  PM Mail and MR/2.  These are both,
already, "very usable products".

I'll leave it to the PM Mail advocates to paste in a URL, I don't have it. 
However, information about MR/2 ICE can be acquired from:

    http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm

NOTE that MR/2 development is still active.  In fact, I'm preparing to
release a v2.0 before the end of the year.

Nick
-- 
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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            02-Nov-99 16:44:28
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

In <381EFAE0.77DBB58@attglobal.net>, Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>
writes:
>Most people have given up on Ultimail under OS/2.  I would suggest that
>you look at other mailers.  Innoval has made both of their mailers, Post
>Road Mailer and JSteet Mailer public domain.  There is an active group
>of knowledgable Java programmers who have been fixing up and improving
>JStreet into a very usable product.  Both products run fine under WSeB.
>
>Robert Basler wrote:
>> 
>> I'm trying to get Ultimail 2.10.004 to work on OS/2 WSeB, I couldn't
>> find any way to install just ultimail from the Warp 4 CD's, so I copied
>> my UMAIL directory and mailstor over wholesale from my working Warp 4
>> system, then put the SENDMAIL.UML file into the MPTN directory.  Note
>> that all paths are the same on both systems.
>> 
>> It will send and recieve mail as long as you are connected to the
>> internet.
>> 
>> If you are not connected and send a message, it says that it was queued
>> successfully, but there is no message in the MQUEUE directory and the
>> message text can be found in a file called DEADLET.TER in the MPTN\ETC
>> directory.
>> 
>> I have the ETC dir set to MPTN\ETC
>> 
>> When I connect to the internet, it does not do the sendmail thing in the
>> status window, but I suspect that this has more to do with there being
>> no files in the MQUEUE directory, rather than some problem with that
>> program feature.
>> 
>> Suggestions???  I really want to stick to Ultimail since I have
>> thousands of archived messages that I access regularly and have been
>> very happy with the app in general to date.
>> 
>> This is what I got when I ran UMCHECK.CMD
>> 
>> The key "AURORASW /MAIL_GW" in D:\MPTN\ETC\TCPOS2.INI was not found!
>> No "Mlocal" line was found in D:\MPTN\ETC\SENDMAIL.CF!
>> 
>> Installation information:
>>   The UltiMail provider is ADVANTIS
>>   TMP = D:\TCPIP\TMP
>>   ETC = D:\MPTN\ETC
>>   SRV = D:\TCPIP\UMAIL\SERVER
>>   CONNECTION = AURORASW
>>   POPSRVR = mail.direct.ca
>>   REPLY_DOMAIN = direct.ca
>>   MQueue from SENDMAIL.CF:  D:\MPTN\ETC\MQUEUE
>>   DD from SENDMAIL.CF:      Your.Domain
>>   MQueue from SENDMAIL.UML: D:\MPTN\ETC\MQUEUE
>>   Mlocal from SENDMAIL.UML: Mlocal  P=d:\tcpip\umail\umailer.exe
>> F=lsmDFP
>> S=10  R=0  A=-dest d:\tcpip\umail\server\inbox -to $u
>> 
>> FYI my email address above is bogus, send email to: aurorasw direct ca
>> after inserting appropriate ats and dots, thanks.
>
>-- 
>Chuck McKinnis
>Senior Systems Engineer
>Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
>IBM Business Partner
>IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

Sorry--but this type of reply is not helpful at all.

I think you meant well, but you just have not answered the question.

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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     02-Nov-99 14:13:19
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

Robert Basler wrote:

>
> Suggestions???  I really want to stick to Ultimail since I have
> thousands of archived messages that I access regularly and have been
> very happy with the app in general to date.
>

I would take a hint from the fact that Ultimail is explicitely listed as not
supported by WSeB. If it were trivial to get it working, I suspect it would
still be supported.

In your place, I would look for another mail client and convert the
archives.


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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            02-Nov-99 07:45:25
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: NS/2 4.04

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

Why?

Daniel Tulloch wrote:
> 
> Where can I download Netscape/2 4.04?
> 
> Daniel Tulloch

-- 
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Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: possum@tree.branch                                02-Nov-99 15:27:08
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: possum@tree.branch (Mike Trettel)

My 40x Toshiba cd-rom drive just went belly up on me, so I'm in the market
for a new cd-rom drive. CD-RW units are getting quite reasonable in price,
so I'm tempted to get one.  I know I can't burn any CD's without getting
the RSJ cd/burning software package first, but could I use a CD-RW unit
(either ATAPI or SCSI) as a plain cd-rom drive for the time being?  Anyone
have any experience with this?

-- 
===========
Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net

I don't buy from spammers.  No exceptions.  Fix the reply line to mail me.

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             02-Nov-99 10:45:14
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: os2krnld  Debug kernal

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:48:30 GMT, Dave Kopas wrote:

>Does any one have a clue where this file resides, if it exists?
As Ken says, you need to go to  
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/debug
From the way you wrote the post, I suspect you don't realize that you need a
different debug kernel
for EVERY fixpack! Sometimes mismatched kernels will work, but bad things can
happen and the
symbols for other modules won;t match, so don't do it. Also, without source
for os2krnl or close guidance
from someone who has it, I strongly urge you to use os2krnlb (m009hst.dsk)
and NOT os2krnld.


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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    02-Nov-99 08:04:12
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 or 1.1.7????????

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

Unlike some one might mention, IBM continue to maintain older releases
of software! The latest refreshes for 1.1.6 and 1.1.7 are just slightly
more recent than those for 1.1.8. Some people have found 1.1.6 or 1.1.7
more stable than 1.1.8, but 1.1.8 is generally faster. Both 1.1.7 and
1.1.8 have worked well for me, but I only run two Java applications on a
regular basis (and the usual crud you end up inadvertantly running on
many web sites of course). I'd suggest going straight to 1.1.8 with the
latest service.

Graham.

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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     02-Nov-99 15:14:29
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote:

> ...  The universal PC file system IS Novell.  That is why NT will
> NEVER own the network market, no matter what kind of marketing fraud they
> wish to publish.
>

This is what might be called a truth which has gone beyond the "use by" date.

Novell used to be the major file server OS, but it has been in a steep decline 
for
some years. That is why you are able to buy it so cheap.

That does not mean that the performance is any poorer, I know a major
corporation
which had to triple the server hardware when they changed from Novell to NT
servers,
and still performance was poorer. The problems with Novell are rather that
they use a
proprietary network protocol and that it is difficult to make safe server
applications.

Warp Server has a consistent track record of performing equal to or better
than Novell
in major tests, and I think it is possible to get an old LAN serveror Warp
Server 3 or
even 4 at a reasonable price if you look around. The NETBIOS protocol has more
overhead than IPX, but is an industry standard supported by both DOS, Windows
and OS/2
clients. The TCP/IP protocol has way more overhead, but it IS the standard
internet
protocol.

The principle of using a file server in a home LAN is good, and Novell is fine 
if you
know how to run it and can get it cheap enough. Personally, I prefer to run an 
OS/2
server (actually, I have both Advanced Server 4 and WSeB). The old Warp Server 
will
perform just fine on any old 486 with SCSI drives and 64MB (or down to 32MB)
RAM, or
even an old 386 PS/2. An old NT 3.51 may also do, but it is a lot more picky
with
respect to the hardware you need for decent performance.

When you run a file server, backup is very important. A big point in favour of 
the
Warp servers is that they come with PSnS, by far the best backup software you
can get
short of the extremely expensive HSM.


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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     02-Nov-99 14:23:05
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:23
Subj: Re: Warp 4 and Dell Optiplex

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

Richard Cohen wrote:

>
> I look after a Call Ctr that uses Warp 4 on the Dell Optiplex range of PC's
> (G1, Gn and older). We are getting intermitent keyboard lockups and have not
> found a reason as yet.
> The K/Bd locks up but the PC is still usable via mouse.. Unplugging and
> repluging the K/Bd seems to resolve the problem "until next time".
>

Have you tried another brand of keyboard?

I do not have any Dell experience, but I ran into a similar problem with an
early Copam PC. It appeared that they had used a different, but supposedly
compatible, hardware/firmware combination inside the keyboard, and it worked
with all but one program.


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From: rjfreem@attglobal.net                             02-Nov-99 10:18:13
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: rjfreem@attglobal.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 
   at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:

Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
supply fan. Heat kills.

RJF



>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



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From: bogus@bogusdomain.com                             02-Nov-99 09:43:04
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: Robert Basler <bogus@bogusdomain.com>

The problem appears to be with sendmail, not with ultimail.  It doesn't seem
to
be willing to queue messages.  There are DNS lookup errors in the sendmail
error
log.  I note that I also have DNS problems with any app that is started before 
I
am actually connected to the internet.

Bjrn Vermo wrote:

> > Suggestions???  I really want to stick to Ultimail since I have
> > thousands of archived messages that I access regularly and have been
> > very happy with the app in general to date.
> >
>
> I would take a hint from the fact that Ultimail is explicitely listed as not
> supported by WSeB. If it were trivial to get it working, I suspect it would
> still be supported.



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From: JSeder-nospam@syntel.com                          02-Nov-99 09:11:09
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: Jonathan Seder <JSeder-nospam@syntel.com>

Beware - at least one previous version would cause OS/2 to trap!

> "Where does one find the options (or syntax) of nslookup?"

[C:\]nslookup
Default Server:  dns.myisp.net
Address:  111.111.111.1

> ?
Commands:       (identifiers are shown in uppercase, [] means optional)
NAME - print info about the host/domain NAME using default server
NAME1 NAME2 - as above, but use NAME2 as server
help or ? - print info on common commands
set OPTION - set an option
     all - print options, current server and host
     [no]debug - print debugging information
     [no]d2 - print exhaustive debugging information
     [no]defname - append domain name to each query
     [no]recurse - ask for recursive answer to query
     [no]search - use the search list
     [no]vc - always use a virtual circuit
     domain=NAME - set default domain name to NAME
     port=x - use TCP/IP port number x
     srchlist=N1[/N2/.../N6] - set domain to N1 and search list to
N1,N2,etc.
     root=NAME - set root server to NAME
     retry=X - set number of retries to X
     timeout=X - set initial time-out interval to X seconds
     querytype=X or type=x - set query type, e.g., A,ANY,CNAME,NS,PTR,
etc.
     class=X - set query class to one of IN(Internet),CHAOS,HESIOD or
ANY
server NAME - set default server to NAME, using current default server
lserver NAME - set default server to NAME, using initial server

finger [USER] - finger the optional NAME at the current default host
root - set current default server to the root
ls [option] DOMAIN [>|>> FILE] - list addresses in DOMAIN (output to
FILE)
     -a - list canonical names and aliases
     -h - list HINFO (CPU type and operating system)
     -s - list well-known services
     -d - list all records
     -t TYPE -  list records of the given type (e.g., A,CNAME,MX, etc.)
view FILE - sort an 'ls' output file and view it with more
exit - exit the program

[C:\]nslookup 3521846444      <=== Actual Spammer's address
Server:  dns.myisp.net
Address:  111.111.111.1

Name:    rev-209.235.28.172.sagenetworks.com
Address:  209.235.28.172

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Nov-99 17:31:06
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: NS/2 4.04

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:33:32, Daniel Tulloch <tulloch@modempool.com> 
wrote:

> Where can I download Netscape/2 4.04?
> 
> Daniel Tulloch
> 

The same place where you can get NS 2.02, NC/2 4.61, JAVA 1.1.8, and a
lot of other things:

http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm

By the way, go with NC/2 4.61, it has a few glitches, but it does work
better than 4.04 IMO.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Nov-99 17:31:03
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:57:48, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> kenkahn@us.ibm.com said:
> 
> >The purpose of the SOURCE= option, as specified in the DOC file, is to
locate
> >special files usually only located on your OS/2 install disks; i.e.
SYSINSTX,
> >VTBL850.DCP and KEYBOARD.DCP;  SOURCE= allows you to tell BOOTOS2 an
alternate
> >location where to find these files.
> 
> When I use this option with 2DISK I get a disk full error and halt at the
first
> disk.
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
> 
> 

Did you copy these files from your hard disk, or from the CD? If you 
copied them from the hard disk, they are MUCH bigger, and will fill up
the diskette. You should use the files from the CD for these files.

THEN, you should get the LXLITE package and compress the files (as 
they are put on the diskette), to make more room. The last time I 
tried, without LXLITE, I had 1024 bytes left on my diskette, with 
LXLITE, I have 80K left.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Nov-99 17:31:04
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:36:10, Aaron Lawrence <aaronl@clear.net.nz> 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Is there any one *good* file system that NT, 95 and OS/2 can all read?
> (Some future proofing in the form of Win2000 and Linux compatibility
> would be nice too!) 
> 
> So far I think I know:
> FAT16 is not good :-) 
> AFAIK NT cannot read Fat32
> HPFS is readable by NT(4) and OS/2 but not 95
> VFAT (fat16 with long names) is useable under NT and 95 but I did not
> have much success with the VFat drivers for OS/2. Besides it is still a
> crappy unreliable file system.
> 
> What about any Linux file system(s)? Something else entirely?
> 
> I guess a HPFS driver for Win95 would be nice. He said hopefully.
> 
> THere doesn't really seem to be one nice solution *sigh* Thanks M$ (and
> IBM too I guess).
> 
> TIA 
> 
> Aaron

AFAIK, FAT16 is the ONLY one that all of the op systems seem to have 
in common. The support is not great, but it does work, within it's 
limitations.

There are a couple of HPFS drivers that work with Win9x, but I am not 
sure if they support long file names. Look on Hoobes, for HPFSAxxx 
(the last one I have is xxx=102, but it is ancient, and doesn't 
support long file names. I don't know if it has been updated). Another
to look for is AMOS.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Nov-99 17:31:05
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 or 1.1.7????????

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:42:20, Nelson and Satasha Williams 
<matt196@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Which Java should I upgrade too?  I noticed that 1.1.7 has later file
> dates than the 1.1.8, so I'm kinda confused.
> 
> 
> Nelson
> "Currently running Fixpack 5, preparing to go to 12"
> 

Go to FP12, and also the Device driver Fix pack. (there is a separate 
fix pack for device drivers, since FP11).

Get, and install JAVA 1.1.8, using the Feature installer version 1.25 
(or later).

Then, get and install the JAVA 1.1.8 updates, from
ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/
(follow the appropriate links).

Hope this helps...
******************************
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             02-Nov-99 09:44:20
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Asus Mthrbds

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


Clarence wrote:
> 
> Anyone aware of any Asus motherboards supporting AMD's Athlon. Unable to
> find any mention of support on their web site (though AMD's site
> mentions them as one of the supporting manufacturers).
> 
> Clarence

They have been selling their K7M motherboard for several weeks but they
do not put their name on it out of fear of Intel.  Intel seems to be
REALLY worried about the Athlon and its prospects.  The ASUS board is
sold as a Freeway FW-K7VM motherboard.  Here is a link to a review of it
along with a link to purchase it.

http://www.gamersdepot.com/rev_k7m_mobo_a.htm

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          02-Nov-99 17:49:17
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <slrn81u0ml.co1.possum@ss5.fred.net> Y'all "Mike Trettel" writes:

> My 40x Toshiba cd-rom drive just went belly up on me, so I'm in the market
> for a new cd-rom drive. CD-RW units are getting quite reasonable in price,
> so I'm tempted to get one.  I know I can't burn any CD's without getting
> the RSJ cd/burning software package first, but could I use a CD-RW unit
> (either ATAPI or SCSI) as a plain cd-rom drive for the time being?  Anyone
> have any experience with this?

Limited experience here, with a Yamaha CRW4416S.  If you install
it without special drivers it can work as a normal CD drive.  The
problem (with RSJ's software solution at least -- I do not know
about the other freeware one (name escapes me)) is, if you want
to have use the drive both as normal CD and as a recorder, the
two sets of driver software are liable to fight over ownership.

That's the short version, AFAIR it.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  02-Nov-99 18:23:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: "zeppelin@gte.net" <zeppelin@gte.net>

Techmar Tape drives have worked well with BA/2. And CDS even sells them
at discount

Richard A Crane wrote:

> The following ngs trimmed from reply:
> comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.bugs,comp.os.os2.marketplace,co
> mp.os.os2.networking.misc,
>
> On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:48:05, Camilla Cracchiolo
> <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.) wrote:
>
> >
> > I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
> >
> > I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
> > tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
> > often.  (Long history of failures here).
> >
> > I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
> > experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.
> > Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> >
> > Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
> > newsgroup.
>
> As someone who has had 2 x shortlived Seagate 8Gb SCSI  tape
> drives and 3 other shortlived Seagate products and purchased
> both Backmaster and Backagain/2:
> a) I cannot recommend any Seagate product;
> b) Backmaster didn't suppport the Seagate SCSI drive (out of
> the box - I don't know if they have posted a update or
> upgrade that does - my own experience with Backmaster is
> that it has a 100% failure rate on making restoreable
> backups on equipment allegedly supported;
> c) Backagain works well with the Seagate tape unit but also
> seems to create apparently successful backups that aren't
> (or if they are are non restoreable) on occassion (to often
> for me to have any confidence in it alone as a backup)
>
> I recommend that you invest in downloading and learning the
> linux like ports that are around (i would say more but I
> haven't as yet had the time to figure them out (learning
> curve like a ski jump).
>
> Richard A Crane
> Barrister & Solicitor
> slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
> octa4.net.au
> OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

--
"Windows N.T."  ........OS/2 for the masses?


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From: cb@lim.nl                                         02-Nov-99 19:27:14
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: EWS - was: Re: Bootos2 options

From: Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>

In <381dd86f.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 11/01/99 
   at 06:14 PM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:

> but there are no new updates on the EWS web site.

where is this site?

-- 
  Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>
  Amsterdam
  http://www.lim.nl


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From: cb@lim.nl                                         02-Nov-99 19:29:26
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Lexmark resident fonts 

From: Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>

In <381EFAF3.D2DEABE7@mail.bv.no>, on 11/02/99 
   at 03:54 PM, Bjrn Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no> said:

> This is very logical - TT fonts work on TT printers, PS fonts on
> PostScript printers. When you print something with a True Type font to a
> PostScript printer, the printer driver has to convert everything into a
> graphical image before it is sent to the printer. If you print with a PS
> font which is not resident in the printer, the font (or possibly only
> the part of it you actually use) is just included as part of the print
> job. This adds very little overhead.

Hello, I wonder if you can explain how resident fonts work.

My Lexmark Optra R has a fair number of built-in PCL fonts (fifty or so).
If I select this printer from within DeScribe, the full range of fonts are
displayed in the font display dialog, as I would expect. However, if I
select this printer from within Netscape, this is NOT the case. I assume
then that I have to install these fonts manually within OS/2, or not? As
far as I can tell, the Lexmark installation program does not install these
fonts.

thanks for your help.


-- 
  Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>
  Amsterdam
  http://www.lim.nl


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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         02-Nov-99 18:52:20
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

In article <HN2tEbdbtdhk-pn2-XcXI2HVbkgFt@localhost>,
  nospam@null wrote:
> I understand that "nslookup" or "host" will give the domain
> name
> of an IP number, but can some knowledgable person advise how
> to find the IP number of a website that gives you its "name"
> in the netscape title?
>
> Writing this offline and think I have the answer now but it
> leads to a further question "Where does one find the options
> (or syntax) of nslookup?"

Everyone else's excellent suggestions aside, I always do a ping if I'm
looking for an IP address.  It's just easier to remember. :)

ping www.whatever.com

:)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             02-Nov-99 14:40:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

How many generations of backups are you going to make to a removable hard
disk?

I realize that the initial cost of a tape drive is higher, but the incremental
cost for additional backups and the ease of storing backups off site is a
tremendous plus.

Using DAT, a 4GB (uncompressed) backup costs less than $10.

And what happens if the hard disk controller goes belly up? The backup is
likely to be worthless too.

Alan


rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:

> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
>
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
>
> RJF
>
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
>
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
>
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
>
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> rjfreem@attglobal.net
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             31-Oct-99 20:02:11
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Which Fixpack for Y2K?

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:49:55 -0400, Nelson and Satasha Williams wrote:

>I'm currently running Fixpack 5, and I've read that the Y2K situation in
>Warp 4.0 was taken care of in FixPack 4.  Now, I have 3 questions:
>
>1.  Is this true, or do I need a higher FixPack?
Mostly true. But nearly every FP has found and repaired some other
inocuous Y2K glitch. 

>2.  FixPack 10, 12, which one?
If updating, go for the latest FP, 12 at this time.

>3.  Where can I find a list of what each FixPack does?

There's an all inclusive list of what got fixed when in each FP. 



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From: red_manr@hotmail.com                              03-Nov-99 08:25:23
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Warp 4 and Dell Optiplex

From: "Richard Cohen" <red_manr@hotmail.com>

Thanks, Yes I have set up a test bench using a different brand K/Bd but as
it is a Intermitent fault it is too early as yet to say if this will fix the
problem, But will keep the test bay running for another couple of weeks and
see what happens.

"Bjrn Vermo" <bv@mail.bv.no> wrote in message
news:381EE5BD.1884CB0E@mail.bv.no...
> Richard Cohen wrote:
>
> >
> > I look after a Call Ctr that uses Warp 4 on the Dell Optiplex range of
PC's
> > (G1, Gn and older). We are getting intermitent keyboard lockups and have
not
> > found a reason as yet.
> > The K/Bd locks up but the PC is still usable via mouse.. Unplugging and
> > repluging the K/Bd seems to resolve the problem "until next time".
> >
>
> Have you tried another brand of keyboard?
>
> I do not have any Dell experience, but I ran into a similar problem with
an
> early Copam PC. It appeared that they had used a different, but supposedly
> compatible, hardware/firmware combination inside the keyboard, and it
worked
> with all but one program.
>
>


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From: info@cocon-seide.com                              02-Nov-99 22:11:03
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: Christa Schomber <info@cocon-seide.com>


nospam@nospam.com schrieb:

> On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:01:06, F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
>
> > Suddenly today I got this message:
> >
> > =================
> > Disk Error
> >
> > The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
> > be written to disk. The updates are
> > being held to automatically retry the
> > operation, but will be lost if the
> > system is shutdown before correcting
> > the problem.
> > =================
> >
> > What is this? How can I correct this? Is it bad to shutdown before
> It happened to me soon after applying fp12 (i was previously at fp8)
> and the cause was that some or both of the system INI files had been
> corrupted by some accident/problem earlier.
>
> You can correct this by booting to the command line, and replacing the
> two files with backup copies from the OS2\ARCHIVES.
>
> > resolving the problem? What will happen then???
> There may be some tool(s) available to correct this before shutdown,
> but nothing seriously bad will happen from shutting down the system
> and rebooting to the command line.
>
> > I tried CheckIni (Henk Kelder's) but with no results.
> Yes, that didn't work here either.
>
> -
> Magnus Olsson
>
> "Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
>  - Plato

Could it be that your bootdrive is full /or almost full ?? Good luck
Christoph

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                02-Nov-99 15:29:03
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson) said:

>> so I'm tempted to get one.  I know I can't burn any CD's without getting
>> the RSJ cd/burning software package first, but could I use a CD-RW unit
>> (either ATAPI or SCSI) as a plain cd-rom drive for the time being?  Anyone
>> have any experience with this?

>Limited experience here, with a Yamaha CRW4416S.  If you install
>it without special drivers it can work as a normal CD drive.

I'd seriously consider the possibility that by the time you can get around to
setting up for writing you might wish you had a newer version or different
make. 
Plain CD drives are very cheap now.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                02-Nov-99 15:26:26
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>Did you copy these files from your hard disk, or from the CD? If you  copied
>them from the hard disk, they are MUCH bigger,

I copied them from the installation disks.  But I put them in the os2\boot\
directory and one got over written by a hard drive version.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: robert@rgoold.spamnot.freeserve....               02-Nov-99 20:32:06
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

Message sender: robert@rgoold.spamnot.freeserve.co.uk

From: robert@rgoold.spamnot.freeserve.co.uk (Robert Goold)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:53:16 +0200, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo
<bvermo@powertech.no> wrote:

>You ARE trying to format a HD diskette to 1.44MB, right? I have seen many
>diskette drives which did not find out that the diskette was not HD, even
>though the HD hole was missing. The error message is typical when you try to
>format a 720kB diskette to 1.44. Or is it one of the rare 2.88 diskettes?
They
>have different magnetic characteristics, and might give the same symptom in a
>1.44 drive.

2.88s do give the same message, but it's probably because the 
hole is in a different position and the drive thinks it's got a 720K. 
My drive will happily format a 2.88 to 720K if I tell it to. 
My Maxell diskettes have always been reliable, however I have seen
some (non-Maxell) 720K diskettes stamped with HD and sold as HD. 

Robert Goold

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                02-Nov-99 15:32:11
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: EWS - was: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl> said:

>In <381dd86f.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 11/01/99 
>   at 06:14 PM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:

>> but there are no new updates on the EWS web site.

>where is this site?

ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/os2_ews/

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            02-Nov-99 14:15:27
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

After over 35 years in this business, I have come to realize that a dead
horse still just lies even after a beating.

There may be serious issues in the Ultimail TCP/IP 4.2 stack interface.

The effort to convert to a working mailer may well be far less than the
effort to make an unsupported product run.  And even if you do get it to
work, the next maintenance you apply to the system may take you right
back to ground zero.

jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote:
> 
> Sorry--but this type of reply is not helpful at all.
> 
> I think you meant well, but you just have not answered the question.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
> Plymouth, MN
> -----------------------------------------------------------

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          02-Nov-99 21:18:11
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: Lexmark resident fonts 

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:29:52, Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl> a crit dans un 
message:

> In <381EFAF3.D2DEABE7@mail.bv.no>, on 11/02/99 
>    at 03:54 PM, Bjrn Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no> said:
> 
> > This is very logical - TT fonts work on TT printers, PS fonts on
> > PostScript printers. 

Perhaps this is just an overstrained attempt at simplifying, but it's not 
quite accurate. I don't think there are any "TT Printers". TrueType Fonts 
and Type 1 Fonts ("ATM Fonts or, slightly erroneously, "PostScript Fonts") 
are just two different, competing, formats for storing vector information 
that can be turned into the letterforms needed to print text. Generally, 
the printer itself performs the task of converting vector into raster, but 
in "Windows" printers a lot of the rasterization and paper-handling 
formatting is performed within the Windows Print System. I guess if there 
is such a thing as a "TT Printer" it would be a Windows Printer?


> > When you print something with a True Type font to a
> > PostScript printer, the printer driver has to convert everything into a
> > graphical image before it is sent to the printer. 

Close. The printer driver's job (in OS/2, for instance) is to combine the 
desired data (text strings, artwork, format elements like page layouts, 
header/footer elements, etc.) with code language that commands the actual 
print head to lay the dots down on the paper in a rasterized line-by-line 
construction that ends up looking like individual letters and other stuff 
you want to see. 

PostScript is a code language that some printers can understand, and PCL is
a competing code language that some printers can understand.


> > If you print with a PS
> > font which is not resident in the printer, the font (or possibly only
> > the part of it you actually use) is just included as part of the print
> > job. This adds very little overhead.

Well, you can have printer driver settings that insist on *everything* 
being fully rasterized before it goes down the wire to the printer, or none
of it, or just some of it. A printer that owns enough printer memory to 
form a full page all at once can do it more quickly than forcing the 
operating system to piece part of the work out to the main CPU, system RAM,
and maybe the swap file.


> 
> Hello, I wonder if you can explain how resident fonts work.
> 
> My Lexmark Optra R has a fair number of built-in PCL fonts (fifty or so).
> If I select this printer from within DeScribe, the full range of fonts are
> displayed in the font display dialog, as I would expect. 

Well, don't expect it because it's one of the nice extra things that 
DeScribe does for you. It goes past the OS/2 Font Palette and also 
recognizes fonts which are installed in your printer, and you can even tell
it, via Printer Setup, to recognize and use *only* printer resident fonts.


> However, if I
> select this printer from within Netscape, this is NOT the case. 

That's because Netscape (and most other apps) only see the fonts installed 
in OS/2. Normal.


> I assume
> then that I have to install these fonts manually within OS/2, or not? As
> far as I can tell, the Lexmark installation program does not install these
> fonts.

You can actually *use* these fonts, but the screen won't show them unless 
you install screen font versions of the font files. Personally, I can't use
a font unless I can see it on screen, so I get copies of the fonts in an 
OS/2-installable format and install them.

Lexmark mailed them to me for my Optra Rt+ several years ago, after a 
couple of phone calls. The diskettes I received had Type 1 files for each 
font, and installed just fine. However, I just bought an Optra Color 40 
that came with TrueType versions of the printer fonts on the install CD. I 
haven't gone through the lists for each but most appear to be the same.

I'd suggest contacting Lexmark directly, asking for the "free screen fonts 
for OS/2" which their registration card advertises. But if they don't come 
through, if you write me I'd be happy to email you what I've got.



Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               02-Nov-99 16:50:09
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:36:10 +1300, Aaron Lawrence wrote:

>THere doesn't really seem to be one nice solution *sigh* Thanks M$ (and
>IBM too I guess).
>
>TIA 

MS could be still using HPFS at their own discretion, instead of,
crosslinking, fragmenting, virus prone, slow FAT. But they had a big problem
with PC users having a choice of multiple OS's. So be sure to thank M$ "only"
for your problems. The day IBM does away with HPFS would be a good day to
complain to IBM as well.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: jvarela@mind-spring.com                           02-Nov-99 22:06:20
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:35:35, rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman) wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 05:10:10, James Moe 
> <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> wrote:
> 
>     I have been using the Logitech "Marble," a trackball-like mouse. It
> needs no special driver. It works as though it were a mobile rodent.
> Just plugged it into the ps/2 port...
> 
> I've been using this one, too, for about a year and a half 
> and I love it. I'll never even consider using a mouse again.

Me too.
 
> I use mine with a shareware program with it called MSE which
> provides 3rd button functionality of an unbelievable nature.

Any idea where this program can be found?

--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring

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From: mikegw@ukonline.co.uk                             02-Nov-99 23:19:18
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: FDISK os2/2.1

From: "MICHAEL WARD" <mikegw@ukonline.co.uk>

I  need a good FDISK ideally ver 2.1 can anybody help ?


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From: tulloch@modempool.com                             02-Nov-99 18:36:20
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: NS/2 4.04

From: Daniel Tulloch <tulloch@modempool.com>

I looked there first, of course, and it's not there.  I would prefer it
over 4.6.
4.6 seems much slower on my system.

Daniel Tulloch

Doug Bissett wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:33:32, Daniel Tulloch <tulloch@modempool.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Where can I download Netscape/2 4.04?
> >
> > Daniel Tulloch
> >
>
> The same place where you can get NS 2.02, NC/2 4.61, JAVA 1.1.8, and a
> lot of other things:
>
> http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
>
> By the way, go with NC/2 4.61, it has a few glitches, but it does work
> better than 4.04 IMO.
>
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          02-Nov-99 22:55:22
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-jKfU32mj2O68@localhost>
	   doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net "Doug Bissett" writes:

> AFAIK, FAT16 is the ONLY one that all of the op systems seem to
> have in common. The support is not great, but it does work,
> within it's limitations.

But be wary of allowing Lose95/98 a look at your FAT16 disks, as
it likes to mess up the format, rendering it "broken" in OS/2's
estimation.  Nowadays I leave the "write protect" tab set if my
floppies must be exposed to such danger.  Fortunately I rarely
need to import material from L*8 sources so this generally works.

And if you have to carry across info such as long names, pack all
the data up into a Zip file first.  During un-Zipping, the info
will be restored using native format rules.  (And file size will
tend to be smaller, allowing more to fit on the disk.)
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au                    03-Nov-99 00:15:13
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)

Richard A Crane <rcrane@octa4.net.au> wrote:

>Writing this offline and think I have the answer now but it 
>leads to a further question "Where does one find the options
>(or syntax) of nslookup?"

    TCPHELP NSLOOKUP

Alternatively, look for the TCP/IP manual in your Information folder.

-- 
Peter Moylan                                         peter@ee.newcastle.edu.au
See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

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From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au                    03-Nov-99 00:06:15
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: FDISK os2/2.1

From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)

MICHAEL WARD <mikegw@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>I  need a good FDISK ideally ver 2.1 can anybody help ?

You already have it.  Just open up an OS/2 window and type "FDISK".
Or is something wrong with the one you have?

-- 
Peter Moylan                                         peter@ee.newcastle.edu.au
See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               02-Nov-99 20:44:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <yAseOHvOF6WbziN3z+XM=tNQpoZo@news.kraftwerk.net>, on 11/02/99 
   at 02:53 AM, Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se> said:

>yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net [Posted via Supernews,
>http://www.supernews.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

> your server.  The universal PC file system IS Novell.  That is why NT
>will

>But is that a fact, or just typical normal 186.illegal advocacy/ranting?

It's a fact.  Novell is entrenched in the places it is at.  Despite being
forgotten about in the press it is still making huge strides in sales and
being picked by investment analysts as a strong company to invest in.

> NEVER own the network market, no matter what kind of marketing fraud
>they  wish to publish.

>Sorry, but both OS/2, NT, Linux, *BSD and SCO (to just name some common
>PC server systems) has all very good file systems.

There is a DISTINCT difference between "good file system" and network
usable file system.  In order to be a network usable file system it must
support the naming conventions of all the systems it wishes to network
with and allow storage there upon.  While HPFS is a good file system it
truly sucky-poohs when trying to allow other systems storage on it.  NT
has a file system which sucks in every aspect, but since they only wanted
to mate with FAT it works fine for those who love using Microsoft only
products.  Haven't looked at the Linux file system in about 3 years.  It
had a long way to go when I last looked.  SCO has a Microsoft improved
file system so it works as well as every other system microsoft has
improved.  (Remember, they own 20% of the company which produces an OS
they say NT is replacing.)

>No, it's not any "marketing fraud" even if you perhaps imagine that.
> 

Microsoft's stock & trade is Market Fraud.  How many times have you bought
a Microsoft product with features advertised on the box or in their ads
which were never written into the product?  Lots

>I think Novell will be more of a niche product in the future, especially
>as TCP/IP and Internet (with application services) is the norm of today,
>not IPX.

Novell has been existing on TCP/IP for years.

>How many web sites or application servers runs Novell?

no one can really know since any reputable web site will have a fire wall
with an inaccessible file system filtering messages to the application
server.

Roland

-- 
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".illegaltospam"
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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   03-Nov-99 01:55:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: Printers

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <unvznaaqzertvasvarg.fkkns70.pminews@news.dmreg.infi.net> - "Terry
Haimann" <thaimann@dmreg.infi.net>Tue, 02 Nov 1999 08:21:43 -0500 (EST)
writes:
:>
:>I believe my HP DeskJet 500 just died and therefore I need to replace it.  I
:>would like a printer that has its own cpu & memory (Lexmark 5700 NOT) and
one
:>that is also Linux freindly, what are my best choices?
:>
:>Thx	Terry.
:>
:>


Hello Terry

I can vouch for a Lexmark Optra 40. I just purchased one to replace a Lexmark
3200 and have not regretted it. They can be had for around $200 US plus the
price of a 16 meg SIMM. The 4 meg the printer comes with is just not enough.
If you need more details feel free to ask.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net


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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   03-Nov-99 01:55:07
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <381EFAF3.D2DEABE7@mail.bv.no> - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo
<bv@mail.bv.no>Tue, 02 Nov 1999 15:54:21 +0100 writes:

Thanks a lot for the information

:>
:>Ted Miller wrote:
:>
:>> ... The only anomaly I have noticed was in
:>> printing a 3 page file with an old english style true type font through
IBM
:>> works. In this case it took several minutes to start printing and the
computer
:>> was almost in a hung condition during this period. Once printing started
:>> everything was released again. When I changed the font to a printer
resident
:>> one printing was almost instantaneous. Obviously there is something about
this
:>> particular font that
:>> postscript doesn't like.
:>>
:>
:>This is very logical - TT fonts work on TT printers, PS fonts on PostScript
printers.
:>When you print something with a True Type font to a PostScript printer, the
printer
:>driver has to convert everything into a graphical image before it is sent to 
the
:>printer.

This I now realize. I never had a printer before where fonts were an issue or
concern. What I don't understand though is why there is such a hit to the
system when processing such a file. E.g. if I print a jpg graphic there is
also a certain amount of processing time but no slow down in the computer. If
the printer sees a page of text with a TT font as a graphics file why this
huge hit on resources? 

 If you print with a PS font which is not resident in the printer, the font
:>(or possibly only the part of it you actually use) is just included as part
of the
:>print job. This adds very little overhead.
:>

Is there then not much to gain by downloading the font?

:>Generally speaking, TT fonts are not very good for printing  - they are not
really up
:>to the high professional standards of good PS fonts. If you have a PS
printer, you
:>should avoid them altogether.
:>
:>

Is there a reason for Postscript's inability to handle TT fonts? licensing
issues? I always thought a font was a font.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net



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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   03-Nov-99 01:55:06
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-M6edNFrcCFcW@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com> -
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)Tue, 02 Nov 1999 02:30:19 GMT writes:
:>
:>On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 01:52:30, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) a crit dans un 
:>message:
:>
:>> 
:>> It took a lower priority in both the queue setting and the print spooler
:>> setting. Kept the system going in my problem printout and doesn't seem to
:>> effect other printing. I think I am finally finished with fiddling.
:>> 
:>
:>We'll cast those words in bronze. Not. We're *never* finished with 
:>fiddling. Six months downstream we'll be sure to see something we were too 
:>inexperienced to understand previously, and see that we can make further 
:>changes.
:>
:>
:>
:>Good luck,
:>
:>Buddy
:>
:>Buddy Donnelly
:>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
:>
:>

I'll certainly concur with that statement. I still plan to fool around with
the PCL5 driver again. Just not right now. Hopefully something will come up
that will allow the use of the bidi driver again. I sort of liked Markvision.
Its strange that bidi really was required for optimal performance with the
3200 and is the worst case with the Optra 40. I guess thats the nature of
computing

Thanks to you and everyone else who responded to my numerous questions I
believe I now have an optimal setup.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net


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From: cb@lim.nl                                         03-Nov-99 03:07:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>

In <381f9602_4@news3.prserv.net>, on 11/03/99 
   at 01:55 AM, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) said:

> Is there a reason for Postscript's inability to handle TT fonts?
> licensing issues? I always thought a font was a font.

unless I'm mistaken, TT was originally envisaged as a fullblown
alternative to PS, no? Bill Gates got tired of paying Adobe royalties.
Nasty tactic, but it did open up Adobe considerably...

I will defer to others re. the relative merits of the two formats, but TT
has one advantage in my mind: everything is in just ONE file (.TT).


-- 
  Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>
  Amsterdam
  http://www.lim.nl


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From: possum@fred.net                                   03-Nov-99 02:29:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: possum@fred.net (Mike Trettel)

On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 15:29:07 -0500, lifedata@xxvol.com <lifedata@xxvol.com>
wrote:

>
>I'd seriously consider the possibility that by the time you can get around to
>setting up for writing you might wish you had a newer version or different
make. 
>Plain CD drives are very cheap now.

Good point, but it costs me nothing to boot over to SuSE.  Even if I
didn't buy the RSJ software I could use it under OS/2 as a plain cdrom
drive, and use Linux to burn CD's as needed.

>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>


-- 
===========
Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net

I don't buy from spammers.  No exceptions.  Fix the reply line to mail me.

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From: srd@x.mcmail.com                                  03-Nov-99 02:35:06
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Java 1.1.8 - Installation problems - what's the answer?

From: Steve Drewell <srd@x.mcmail.com>

For the past one and a half hours I've been scouring through deja.com
trying to find a solution to the "common" problem of installing Java
1.1.8. The problem being:

(Copied from Christopher Hodges post in August):

1)  I get the installation window in the Netscape browser.
2)  I select the options and the drive
3)  The program tells me to hit the button to begin installation 4) 
Almost immediately the program beeps and tells me that installation
    is complete and I should reboot my computer
5)  I reboot the computer but it never created a directory or moved any
    files anywhere.


In WPINSTAL.LOG, there's:

03-11-1999  00:55:50 **NULLID** :: Exception -1073741819 returned to
instthrd.c 538l

which others have reported.

I'm running Warp 4 (FP12), FI 1.25, Comm/2 4.61 GA. I've tried the CID
method and that also failed.

I can't find the answer on deja.com, so if someone would share their
knowledge on how to solve this problem, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Steve
-- 
Steve Drewell             (Remove x. from address to reply)
_____________________________________________________________
Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 24 processes with 123 threads.
Machine uptime is 0 days, 1 hour, 9 mins and 57 secs.
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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            02-Nov-99 22:18:04
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <slrn81u0ml.co1.possum@ss5.fred.net>, possum@tree.branch says...
>My 40x Toshiba cd-rom drive just went belly up on me, so I'm in the market
>for a new cd-rom drive. CD-RW units are getting quite reasonable in price,
>so I'm tempted to get one.  I know I can't burn any CD's without getting
>the RSJ cd/burning software package first, but could I use a CD-RW unit
>(either ATAPI or SCSI) as a plain cd-rom drive for the time being?  Anyone
>have any experience with this?
>
>

Yes. You can do this.
-- 
---------------------------------------
David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          03-Nov-99 03:56:04
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: FDISK os2/2.1

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 00:06:30, peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter 
Moylan) wrote:

:MICHAEL WARD <mikegw@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
:>I  need a good FDISK ideally ver 2.1 can anybody help ?
:
:You already have it.  Just open up an OS/2 window and type "FDISK".
:Or is something wrong with the one you have?

 He's using Windows.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: mwalsh1@elp.rr.com                                02-Nov-99 21:23:14
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Netscape dies attempting to print

From: "Matt Walsh" <mwalsh1@elp.rr.com>

My Netscape 4.61, Warp 4 fixpak 12 just doesn't print.  Says it does, but
nothing comes out.

On 1 Nov 1999 17:35:11 GMT, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

>Netscape 4.61, Warp 4 FP6.
>
>Trying to print a page, I get a message about an improper spool format,
>and *ALL* the running instances of the browser die (there ware about 10 of
>them).


Matt Walsh  El Paso, TX
Computin' & Shootin' in the dust.


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From: jgetsoian@csi.com                                 02-Nov-99 23:25:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 - Installation problems - what's the answer?

From: "John Getsoian" <jgetsoian@csi.com>

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 02:35:13 +0000, Steve Drewell wrote:

>trying to find a solution to the "common" problem of installing Java
>1.1.8. 

Not positive that this remedy isn't for a different problem that
occurs later in the install but it's probably worth a try:

Go to /os2/install and make a backup copy of FI.INI, then edit the
original to delete any and all references to Java. Reboot and retry
the installation.



regards;
-john getsoian
(jgetsoian@csi.com)


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From: jbigge@novagate.com                               03-Nov-99 04:34:09
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Bad Install disk

From: jbigge@novagate.com (Jerome Bigge)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:16:32 -0500, "Valheru" <Valheru@guesswhere.com> wrote:

>I just called IBM and they want me to either buy a new contract, buy version
>4, or go to egghead and buy version 3 which is on back order 30 days+.
>Arrghhhh !!!!
>
Try eBay.   Version 3 was plentiful there a couple of months ago.

Jerome Bigge

CompTIA A+ Certified Computer Technician
Author of the "Warlady" & "Wartime" series.
Download at "http://members.tripod.com/~jbigge"

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From: loo01@attglobal.net                               02-Nov-99 21:15:14
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Netscape 4.61 where do you get the strong encryption version

From: Joseph Loo <loo01@attglobal.net>

Hello,

I am trying to get the latest version of Netscape 4.61 for OS2, strong 
encryption. Does anyone know where to get it. So far all the sites I 
have been trying has problems on the downloads.

Thanks in Advance for your help.

Joseph Loo
jloo@acm.org


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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      03-Nov-99 06:25:10
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Bjrn Vermo [Norbionics] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 Generally speaking, TT fonts are not very good for printing  - they are not
really up

It depends if you speak about TT as technology, or that it historically hasn't
had as many good fonts available on the market for professional printing.

If the former it's a myth. If the later it's true in most cases (even if some
great TT fonts is available, and it's also starting to improve on the market).

 to the high professional standards of good PS fonts. If you have a PS
printer, you
 should avoid them altogether.

I agree 100% with that, as conversion is generally never good. That said many
modern PS printers can also load, render and print TT fonts just as well and
fine as PS fonts (for older PS printers this however isn't always the case).

Also this will improve in time as the new Adobe/Microsoft merged font
specification, OpenType, can handle both old PS and TT fonts as standard.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      03-Nov-99 06:25:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

/2 User [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News Services] ->
comp.os.os2.misc:

 MS could be still using HPFS at their own discretion, instead of,
 crosslinking, fragmenting, virus prone, slow FAT. But they had a big problem
 with PC users having a choice of multiple OS's. So be sure to thank M$
"only"

I think you read too much into it. You don't consider the basic fact that Win
NT uses NTFS and it can't use FAT32, and the other way around for Win 95/98.

Microsoft isn't even compatible with themselves (if you don't count FAT16)!

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      03-Nov-99 06:48:16
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Colin Brace [A2000 Kabeltelevisie en Telecommunicatie] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 > Is there a reason for Postscript's inability to handle TT fonts?
 > licensing issues? I always thought a font was a font.

Nope. Most modern PS printers has a great TT renderer engine as well.

 unless I'm mistaken, TT was originally envisaged as a fullblown
 alternative to PS, no? Bill Gates got tired of paying Adobe royalties.
 Nasty tactic, but it did open up Adobe considerably...

Wrong.

Apple (or Steve Jobs if your prefer to talk about executives in person).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      03-Nov-99 06:50:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net [Posted via Supernews,
http://www.supernews.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 > your server.  The universal PC file system IS Novell.
 
 >But is that a fact, or just typical normal 186.illegal advocacy/ranting?
 
 It's a fact.  Novell is entrenched in the places it is at.

[ snip on the rest of the post in the same "spirit" ]

*LOL*

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      03-Nov-99 06:52:23
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Peter Moylan [The University of Newcastle] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 >Writing this offline and think I have the answer now but it 
 >leads to a further question "Where does one find the options
 >(or syntax) of nslookup?"
 
     TCPHELP NSLOOKUP
 Alternatively, look for the TCP/IP manual in your Information folder.

Or start nslookup.exe and enter "help" at the nslookup prompt you get.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 03-Nov-99 01:13:10
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: EWS - was: Re: Bootos2 options

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Bennie Nelson <b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov>
spake unto us, saying:

>Megadesk (virtual desktops)

Very pretty.  I like others better, tho.

>GFC (graphical file comparison)

Yes!!!!  I forgot this was EWS!  Good utility for finding out what that
dern program you just installed has changed in your config.sys.  ;-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                    Guess it's time for Plan B, huh?

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 03-Nov-99 01:16:13
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Aaron Lawrence <aaronl@clear.net.nz>
spake unto us, saying:

>Is there any one *good* file system that NT, 95 and OS/2 can all read?

No, given your eminently reasonable defintion of "good" below.  :-)

>(Some future proofing in the form of Win2000 and Linux compatibility
>would be nice too!)

Linux reads nearly everything and writes most things.

>So far I think I know:
>FAT16 is not good :-) 
>AFAIK NT cannot read Fat32
>HPFS is readable by NT(4) and OS/2 but not 95

One can READ hpfs from Windows 95 using something like ihpfs:

  ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/dos/ihpfs128.zip

but I dunno if a free DOS or Win9x read/write driver exists.

>What about any Linux file system(s)? Something else entirely?

An ext2fs IFS exists for OS/2, and utilities do exist for Windows 9x as
well, but I suspect their adherence/acknowledgement of file permissions
is less than optimal.  Don't know, though.

I use a SAMBA box and/or FAT16 partitions.  :-)

>I guess a HPFS driver for Win95 would be nice. He said hopefully.
>
>THere doesn't really seem to be one nice solution *sigh* Thanks M$
>(and IBM too I guess).

HPFS is Microsoft's filesystem, mainly, isn't it?  Though I suspect the
ownership/licensing situation there is less than simple.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless
bathroom.

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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  03-Nov-99 07:28:29
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 where do you get the strong encryption version

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

In article <301385994160612930278014@MYHOSTNAME>,
  <jloo@acm.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to get the latest version of Netscape 4.61 for OS2, strong
> encryption. Does anyone know where to get it. So far all the sites I
> have been trying has problems on the downloads.
>
> Thanks in Advance for your help.

I don't know about where to download the "not for export" version of
NS4.61, but the "rest of the world" downloads the "weak" version and
then goes to http://www.fortify.net to get a little patch that
"fortifies" the browser: If there are not also some strange laws that
forbid _IMPORTING_ of strong encryption, you could do the same also from
the US, I would suppose (?!)

The "fortify" patches for all NS versions came always very shortly after
the release of a new version; the one for NS 4.61 is out several weeks
already.

Greetings,
Cornelis Bockemhl
cbockem@datacomm.ch

>
> Joseph Loo
> jloo@acm.org
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 03-Nov-99 08:09:14
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <381f9968$1$po$mr2ice@news.a2000.nl>, Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl> writes:
>In <381f9602_4@news3.prserv.net>, on 11/03/99 
>   at 01:55 AM, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) said:
>
>> Is there a reason for Postscript's inability to handle TT fonts?
>> licensing issues? I always thought a font was a font.
>
>unless I'm mistaken, TT was originally envisaged as a fullblown
>alternative to PS, no? Bill Gates got tired of paying Adobe royalties.
>Nasty tactic, but it did open up Adobe considerably...
>

I thought that TrueType was an Apple invention, passed along to M$ during
that untidy behind-the-doors scene when MS played extortionist over Word
and Apple was gonna sue MS for not paying the license fees for Win 3x ? 

We can be sure Gates had nothing to do with it, or the name would be 
MSTrueType  . . .  wonder if his dog is named MSFido ? And asks for a 
registration code every time before he'll fetch the ball ?


>
>-- 
>  Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>
>  Amsterdam
>  http://www.lim.nl
>
>


--
hrad ngravvd

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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           03-Nov-99 03:46:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: EWS - was: Re: Bootos2 options

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl> said:
> 
> >In <381dd86f.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 11/01/99
> >   at 06:14 PM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
> 
> >> but there are no new updates on the EWS web site.
> 
> >where is this site?
> 
> ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/os2_ews/
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

Mind you, that entire site has been largely "unmaintained" for a few
years now, since the web took off and the need for separate BBS support
disappeared. I remember the long distance calls to Raleigh, NC (where
the BBS was located) every Saturday afternoon to look for new resources
and download fixes. I remember bringing the full fixpack for OS/2 2.1 to
make it 2.11 down over a four hour stretch - a nice blip in my long
distance bill!

I have ExCal, Group Folder and PMGlobe running here - PMGlobe runs some
nights when I am working *very* late and want to see how long until
sunrise ;) EWS is still being developed by what I have been told by
folks I know within IBM, but nobody actively organises collecting it and
making it available anymore (at least nobody within IBM has come after
the stuff they developed along the way). Pity.
-- 

============================================================
To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers"
portion of the Reply to: value.

Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
Voix:        (613) 531-8767   Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935
Telecopieur: (613) 531-8684   Email: kahnt@adan.kingston.net

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From: nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl                       03-Nov-99 09:51:02
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 - Installation problems - what's the answer?

From: Henk kelder <nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl>

Your FI.INI is probably not okay.

Please download:

http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/makefi.exe

And place it in \OS2\INSTALL.

Run it. It will create a file called FI.NEW.

Rename the original FI.INI and name FI.NEW as FI.INI.

Then retry installing.

Henk

Steve Drewell wrote:
> 
> For the past one and a half hours I've been scouring through deja.com
> trying to find a solution to the "common" problem of installing Java
> 1.1.8. The problem being:
> 
> (Copied from Christopher Hodges post in August):
> 
> 1)  I get the installation window in the Netscape browser.
> 2)  I select the options and the drive
> 3)  The program tells me to hit the button to begin installation 4)
> Almost immediately the program beeps and tells me that installation
>     is complete and I should reboot my computer
> 5)  I reboot the computer but it never created a directory or moved any
>     files anywhere.
> 
> In WPINSTAL.LOG, there's:
> 
> 03-11-1999  00:55:50 **NULLID** :: Exception -1073741819 returned to
> instthrd.c 538l
> 
> which others have reported.
> 
> I'm running Warp 4 (FP12), FI 1.25, Comm/2 4.61 GA. I've tried the CID
> method and that also failed.
> 
> I can't find the answer on deja.com, so if someone would share their
> knowledge on how to solve this problem, it would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Cheers,
> Steve
> --
> Steve Drewell             (Remove x. from address to reply)
> _____________________________________________________________
> Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 24 processes with 123 threads.
> Machine uptime is 0 days, 1 hour, 9 mins and 57 secs.
> _____________________________________________________________

-- 
Remove nospam when replying..

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        03-Nov-99 09:55:23
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: EWS - was: Re: Bootos2 options

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <381FF648.386372C2@adan.kingston.net>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<kahnt@adan.kingston.net> writes:
>lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
>> 
>> Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl> said:
>> 
>> >In <381dd86f.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, on 11/01/99
>> >   at 06:14 PM, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
>> 
>> >> but there are no new updates on the EWS web site.
>> 
>> >where is this site?
>> 
>> ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/os2_ews/
>> 
>> Jim L
>> Remove XX from address to Email
>> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>Mind you, that entire site has been largely "unmaintained" for a few
>years now, since the web took off and the need for separate BBS support
>disappeared. I remember the long distance calls to Raleigh, NC (where
>the BBS was located) every Saturday afternoon to look for new resources
>and download fixes. I remember bringing the full fixpack for OS/2 2.1 to
>make it 2.11 down over a four hour stretch - a nice blip in my long
>distance bill!
>
>I have ExCal, Group Folder and PMGlobe running here - PMGlobe runs some
>nights when I am working *very* late and want to see how long until
>sunrise ;) EWS is still being developed by what I have been told by
>folks I know within IBM, but nobody actively organises collecting it and
>making it available anymore (at least nobody within IBM has come after
>the stuff they developed along the way). Pity.

If this is the case, we need to make these programs publicly available
somehow.

>-- 
>
>============================================================
>To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers"
>portion of the Reply to: value.
>
>Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
>Voix:        (613) 531-8767   Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935
>Telecopieur: (613) 531-8684   Email: kahnt@adan.kingston.net

--
John

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    03-Nov-99 05:53:17
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra 40

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <c1.2b8.2Smkyx$02Q@hamei.pacbell.net>, hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

>I thought that TrueType was an Apple invention, passed along to M$ during
>that untidy behind-the-doors scene when MS played extortionist over Word
>and Apple was gonna sue MS for not paying the license fees for Win 3x ? 
>
>We can be sure Gates had nothing to do with it, or the name would be 
>MSTrueType  . . .  wonder if his dog is named MSFido ? And asks for a 
>registration code every time before he'll fetch the ball ?

His wife's maiden name was Ms. Dos.  ;-)

-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: thaimann@dmreg.infi.net                           03-Nov-99 06:41:01
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: Printers

From: "Terry Haimann" <thaimann@dmreg.infi.net>

What about hp printers ink jets and Epson (I thought they had very good os/2
drivers?)

On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 07:58:16 -0700, Chuck McKinnis wrote:

>You can really get a good buy right now on the Lexmark Color 40.  It
>runs well, has excellent color, and supports both PostScript and PCL5.
>
>Terry Haimann wrote:
>> 
>> I believe my HP DeskJet 500 just died and therefore I need to replace it. 
I
>> would like a printer that has its own cpu & memory (Lexmark 5700 NOT) and
one
>> that is also Linux freindly, what are my best choices?
>> 
>> Thx     Terry.
>
>-- 
>Chuck McKinnis
>Senior Systems Engineer
>Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
>IBM Business Partner
>IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)



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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                03-Nov-99 12:49:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: Trackball driver?

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:06:41, jvarela@mind-spring.com (John 
Varela) wrote:

> I use mine with a shareware program with it called MSE which
> provides 3rd button functionality of an unbelievable nature.

Any idea where this program can be found?

I got it at BMT Micro (www.bmtmicro.com).



________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

To send email - remove the `yyy'
________________________________________________________

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From: stilz@lexmark.com@stilz@lexmark.com               03-Nov-99 07:57:06
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: Lexmark resident fonts 

From: stilz@lexmark.com@stilz@lexmark.com

In <381f2c6d$1$po$mr2ice@news.a2000.nl>, Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl> writes:
>In <381EFAF3.D2DEABE7@mail.bv.no>, on 11/02/99 
>   at 03:54 PM, Bjrn Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no> said:
>
>> This is very logical - TT fonts work on TT printers, PS fonts on
>> PostScript printers. When you print something with a True Type font to a
>> PostScript printer, the printer driver has to convert everything into a
>> graphical image before it is sent to the printer. If you print with a PS
>> font which is not resident in the printer, the font (or possibly only
>> the part of it you actually use) is just included as part of the print
>> job. This adds very little overhead.
>
>Hello, I wonder if you can explain how resident fonts work.
>
>My Lexmark Optra R has a fair number of built-in PCL fonts (fifty or so).
>If I select this printer from within DeScribe, the full range of fonts are
>displayed in the font display dialog, as I would expect. However, if I
>select this printer from within Netscape, this is NOT the case. I assume
>then that I have to install these fonts manually within OS/2, or not? As
>far as I can tell, the Lexmark installation program does not install these
>fonts.
>
>thanks for your help.
>
>
>-- 
>  Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>
>  Amsterdam
>  http://www.lim.nl
>
>
First let me say that it's been a long time since I've been close to this
stuff but...

In general, the application is in control over what fonts they'll let the user 
use.
I'm not a font guy (and I don't play one on TV) nor am I up on Netscape but as 
I
remember it, the application can ask the printer driver what fonts the printer 
supports.
The printer driver can respond with it's list of resident fonts and the system 
fonts 
but the application may choose to allow the user to only pick from a subset of 
these.

In order for OS/2 to use a printer font, that font (or a subsitute) must be
installed in OS/2.

Regards,
Mike Stilz
stilz@lexmark.combut speaking for my self right now...

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 03-Nov-99 08:57:09
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:11
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 where do you get the strong encryption version

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:

>In article <301385994160612930278014@MYHOSTNAME>,
>  <jloo@acm.org> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to get the latest version of Netscape 4.61 for OS2, strong
>> encryption. Does anyone know where to get it. So far all the sites I
>> have been trying has problems on the downloads.
>>
>> Thanks in Advance for your help.
>
>I don't know about where to download the "not for export" version of
>NS4.61, but the "rest of the world" downloads the "weak" version and
>then goes to http://www.fortify.net to get a little patch that
>"fortifies" the browser: If there are not also some strange laws that
>forbid _IMPORTING_ of strong encryption, you could do the same also from
>the US, I would suppose (?!)
>
>The "fortify" patches for all NS versions came always very shortly after
>the release of a new version; the one for NS 4.61 is out several weeks
>already.
>
>Greetings,
>Cornelis Bockemhl
>cbockem@datacomm.ch
>
>>
>> Joseph Loo
>> jloo@acm.org

I tried to "Fortify" my Netscape 4.61 (I had downloaded the
version without encryption the first time around) and while
the browser worked ok, my Comm newsreader kept blowing up,
so I just uninstalled and then reinstalled the regular
encryption version....  YMMV, fer sure. 

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 03-Nov-99 09:02:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:11
Subj: Re: EWS - was: Re: Bootos2 options

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote:

>Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Bennie Nelson <b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov>
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>Megadesk (virtual desktops)
>
>Very pretty.  I like others better, tho.
>
>>GFC (graphical file comparison)
>
>Yes!!!!  I forgot this was EWS!  Good utility for finding out what that
>dern program you just installed has changed in your config.sys.  ;-)

I was a big fan of ExCal, an extremely WPS-aware PIM and
phonebook and everything with the footprint of a gnat.  Just
about when it looked like it was going to really take off --
there were some nagging weird bugs -- it just stopped. 
(Same with Mr. File).  Robodesk was EWS.  File Phoenix was
too (I think?).  

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: rcrane@octa4.net.au                               03-Nov-99 13:20:04
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:58:15, Thomas Galley 
<tgalley@pironet.com> wrote:
[snip]
..... but I think the on-line manuals
> should give you the complete syntax.
> 
> Greetings/2
> 
> Thomas
> 
No such Luck - CLI prompt> help nslookup gives me the Topic 
not found box
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT 
octa4.net.au 
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: furd@mit.edu                                      03-Nov-99 09:06:05
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: GA-71X and Warp Memory Detection

From: "Frank Field" <furd@mit.edu>

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 10:29:23 -0500 (EST), Frank Field wrote:

:>
:>It may be too soon to celebrate, but I got an e-mail from Gigabyte
:>Tech Support in Germany with a ZIP file containing the
:>AWDFLASH utility and a new 7ix.11 BIOS patch file.  It doesn't
:>match anything on the Gigabyte site at the moment, so this may
:>be the fix - the e-mail merely said "here's your file, Mr. Field."
:>

Sadly, it *was* too soon to celebrate.  Still no luck; furthermore,
it was actually the 7ix_11 file with a different AWDFLASH.EXE.

*sigh*



Frank Field
furd@alum.mit.edu
O-


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From: howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com                      03-Nov-99 10:42:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Howard Wong <howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com>

First off, I am assuming you are putting the hard
drive in a "drawer" that can be removed from a
chassis that remains with the CPU box.

To reap full benefit of backups, the media holding
the backed up data should be stored in a location
away from the building the computer is located. 
This requires transporting the storage media on a
regular basis, which is not what a typical hard
drive is designed for and you risk damaging the
HD. Moreover, such damage may not be noticeable
until you NEED the data for recovery.

Tape/MO/CD-R/JAZ/whatever with removable
disk/cartridge may be more expensive one way or
another, you get the intended protection that data
backup offers.

Regards,
Howard Wong

rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:
> 
> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
> 
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
> 
> RJF
> 
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
> 
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
> 
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
> 
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
> 
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
> 
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> rjfreem@attglobal.net
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          03-Nov-99 15:36:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:20:09, rcrane@octa4.net.au (Richard A Crane) 
wrote:

:On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:58:15, Thomas Galley 
:<tgalley@pironet.com> wrote:
:[snip]
:...... but I think the on-line manuals
:> should give you the complete syntax.
:> 
:> Greetings/2
:> 
:> Thomas
:> 
:No such Luck - CLI prompt> help nslookup gives me the Topic 
:not found box

 Should be "tcphelp nslookup"

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: jsanchez@halcyon.com                              03-Nov-99 07:48:12
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Asus Mthrbds

From: "Jim Sanchez" <jsanchez@halcyon.com>

Actually the K7M motherboard is shipping but ASUS does not mention it.  If
you check the alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus news group for the current
information.  The K7M has gotten high praise even it ASUS will not admit to
making it!
Jim
Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk> wrote in message
news:381E972E.2584AD77@image.dk...
>


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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     03-Nov-99 16:35:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: File system recommendations?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

Doug Bissett wrote:

>
> AFAIK, FAT16 is the ONLY one that all of the op systems seem to have
> in common. The support is not great, but it does work, within it's
> limitations.
>

This is not very relevant when you use a file server. The network file system
will virtualize the file system on the server. A DOS or Windows client may
believe it it is seeing a FAT network drive, a Win 98 client may think it
works like a "32-bit" FAT with "long names support" and so on. The server
will actually use 386 HPFS, NTFS or the proprietary Novell file system. The
network client software communicates with the server in a standard protocol
(such as NETBIO), so there is never any problem when a Win 9x client tries to
store its version of long file names on a virtual volume from a Warp Server.

This is nothing new. Back in the 8088 days, I used a 6800-based file server
with a proprietary file system. It supported both MS-DOS computers, Apple II
and PCs running UCSD Pascal. Today, you can use an IBM mainframe running
OS/390 as a server for (thousands of) PCs running OS/2, UNIX, different
flavours of Windows or whatever.



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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     03-Nov-99 15:49:01
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

Mike Trettel wrote:

>
> Good point, but it costs me nothing to boot over to SuSE.  Even if I
> didn't buy the RSJ software I could use it under OS/2 as a plain cdrom
> drive, and use Linux to burn CD's as needed.
>

It may be cheaper to buy a separate CD-ROM drive - the writers have had a
tendency to
burn out prematurely if they are used as much as some people tend to use
readers. The
MTBF may have improved, but the type of laser you need in a writer is
inherently both
more expensive and shorter lived than the low-power ones in pure readers.

If you do not use it very much, this will probably not matter, though.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                03-Nov-99 11:53:22
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se> said:

>Or start nslookup.exe and enter "help" at the nslookup prompt you get.

BTW, is there an OS/2 version of nslookup?  The copy I got from LEO is DOS.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        03-Nov-99 17:01:06
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 15:27:17 GMT, Mike Trettel <possum@tree.branch> wrote:
> My 40x Toshiba cd-rom drive just went belly up on me, so I'm in the market
> for a new cd-rom drive. CD-RW units are getting quite reasonable in price,
> so I'm tempted to get one.  I know I can't burn any CD's without getting
> the RSJ cd/burning software package first, but could I use a CD-RW unit
> (either ATAPI or SCSI) as a plain cd-rom drive for the time being?  Anyone
> have any experience with this?

While it's certainly possible, you might not want to use a CD-RW drive
as a plain CD-reader on a regular basis... I've heard that it can 
shorten the life of the CD-writer.  That may just be an urban legend,
of course...

By the way, the RSJ-only restriction only applies to IDE CD-writers.
If you get a SCSI CD-RW, you can use the free CDWrite/2 (a port of
the UNIX cdwrite) and mkisofs.  Of course, they're somewhat harder
to use than RSJ...

OTOH, even a cheap CD-RW drive is 3-4 times more expensive than a
plain CD-ROM drive (which can be had for as cheap as $50 or so).

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   03-Nov-99 11:01:22
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 where do you get the strong encryption version

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

I went to IBM's website, tried to download the strong version, it wouldn't 
let me, so I filled out the form, & several days later, namely this am, the 
strong version on CD arrived at the door, no charge.  Of course, if you 
aren't in the US, this doesn't help you.

On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 21:15:29 -0800, Joseph Loo wrote:

:>  Hello,
:>  
:>  I am trying to get the latest version of Netscape 4.61 for OS2, strong 
:>  encryption. Does anyone know where to get it. So far all the sites I 
:>  have been trying has problems on the downloads.
:>  
:>  Thanks in Advance for your help.
:>  
:>  Joseph Loo
:>  jloo@acm.org
:>  
:>  


Peter

*/------------------------------------------------------
Peter Wadsack <wadsack@ibm.net>
Wadsack Management; Madison WI USA
------------------------------------------------------*/


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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             03-Nov-99 23:24:05
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: How to get two Audio cards to share CDROM output?

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

I want to install a sound blaster live to use under W98 but I know it
want work in OS/2 ver 3 FP 40.

I want to Keep my PAS 16 for OS/2 and W31.

I think I can get that to work but for one problem.  I'd like to listen
to CD audio in all OS's. 

Can I splice the audio output cable from the cdrom to go to both sound
card or will that change the impedance?

I guess I could get a switch and install it externally to control which
card gets the CD output.  I want the Live because I'm adding a second
speaker system. It has two line outs for front and rear speakers.

Any ideas?


                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com                          03-Nov-99 18:46:19
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: ALERT: Nice Laser Printer for OS/2 Warp

From: Timothy Sipples <tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com>

CompGeeks.Com is currently advertising the Mita DP-580 laser printer as a
close-out special for $103 US after rebate.  This is an exceptional value in
an OS/2 Warp compatible budget laser printer.

For purchase information please visit:

http://www.compgeeks.com/cgi-bin/details.asp?cat=Printers&sku=205-1580

For specifications from Mita's web site visit:

http://www.mita.com/dp580spec.htm

(similar specs to the DP-570).

OS/2 Warp users: this printer is compatible with the HP PCL5e printer
datastream -- a datastream well supported by OS/2 Warp.  Although not
explicitly listed as a supported printer in the OS/2 Device Driver Pak
Online, this printer should work well with the HP LaserJet 4 driver, for
example.  If uncertain, please inquire as to any money back guarantees if
you purchase the printer.  Despite "1200 dpi class resolution" claims, this
printer is probably best operated in 300 or 600 dpi with its built-in 2 MB
of RAM (and should probably be regarded as a 600 dpi or even 300 dpi
printer).

I have no affiliation with Mita or CompGeeks.Com.

-- 
Timothy Sipples
IBM Network Computing Software
Chicago, Illinois
Web: http://www.satdirect.com/aviation

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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               03-Nov-99 18:22:26
  To: camilla@primenet.com                              03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

To: camilla@primenet.com
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
> 
> I have to get a new tape drive.  
Check http://www.cristie.com/
I am looking to purchase one of their drives (admittedly a large
autoloader) and they may be willing to bundle their backup software for
os/2.  Well if you ask them nicely they will as they seem to bundle the
Win95 crap with them.

-- 
Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
too)

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From: Johannes.Hromadka@gmx.net                         01-Nov-99 20:52:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory

From: Hannes Hromadka <Johannes.Hromadka@gmx.net>


dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote:

> I suppose I should ask: Has anyone been able to allocate and use
> bufferpools larger than 220 MB (>55,000 pages) under OS/2 Warp?

Good question: The answer is YES.

It was not me, but some people at my job had to write real big programs. Big
means loading a huge module into a simulation environement.

The limit was around 300MByte. In OS/2 2.11 it was about 320 to 350MB they
could aquire. In Warp 3 sometimes the limit was below 200MByte. It depends
of the size of the buffer segments you use to allocate the memory.

Someone told us, that the SMP Kernel of Warp Server has a higher limit.

But further investigation was stopped when the development was moved to Win
NT 8-(

Somewhere in my office I have a small testproram and the results of tests on
OS/2 2.11 and Warp 3 with different fixpak levels. If I find it I can do
tests on Warp 4.5 and post the result.

Some good information about available memory can be found in the
documentation of theseus2. A real good package to monitor and analyze RAM
usage. The programs seems to be IBM only, but it found its way into the
internet. Search hobbes for it or LEO in Germany.


                Greetings from Vienna

                        Hannes




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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 03-Nov-99 17:05:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: nospam@nospam.com (Magnus Olsson)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:11:06, Christa Schomber <info@cocon-seide.com> 
wrote:

> nospam@nospam.com schrieb:
> 
> > On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:01:06, F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
> >
> > > Suddenly today I got this message:
> > >
> > > =================
> > > Disk Error
> > >
> > > The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
> > > be written to disk. The updates are
> > > being held to automatically retry the
> > > operation, but will be lost if the
> > > system is shutdown before correcting
> > > the problem.
> > > =================
> > >
<snip>
 
> Could it be that your bootdrive is full /or almost full ?? Good luck
No, not unless 600 MB left can be considered almost full:-)
 
Anyway i haven't had this problem again since backing out of fp12 to 
fp8.

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: RTennis@swri.org                                  03-Nov-99 11:22:01
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Printing Problem

From: Richard Tennis <RTennis@swri.org>

I am having trouble printing to a LexMark Optra Color 40 postscript
printer.
The system in question is a recent install of Warp 4 with FP12 and the
Device
driver fixpak 1 installed.  I've tried various versions of the
postscript drivers,
and printer drivers (standard and bidi).  Occasionally I can print
something,
but usually I get an exception in the spooler or in pscript.drv.  On
another
machine which is at FP10 (but has had incremental updates through the
various fix packs) everything works fine.

Any ideas?

Thank you in advance,
Richard.


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From: teamick@prodigy.net                               03-Nov-99 10:54:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: OS2Ezine

From: Tony Eamick <teamick@prodigy.net>

Has OS2Ezine closed up or changed url's ? I have been checking there for
about a month now and it still has a feature article from August .

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     03-Nov-99 18:09:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Printers

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:21:43, "Terry Haimann" <thaimann@dmreg.infi.net>
wrote:

> I believe my HP DeskJet 500 just died and therefore I need to replace it.  I
> would like a printer that has its own cpu & memory (Lexmark 5700 NOT) and
one
> that is also Linux freindly, what are my best choices?
> 
> Thx	Terry.
> 

What is the problem with the 5700???
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     03-Nov-99 18:12:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: NS/2 4.04

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:36:41, Daniel Tulloch <tulloch@modempool.com> 
wrote:

> I looked there first, of course, and it's not there.  I would prefer it
> over 4.6.
> 4.6 seems much slower on my system.
>  
> Daniel Tulloch
>  

Hmm. just looked, and it is gone.

Personally, I have found 4.61 Loads much slower, but runs much faster,
even on my old 486 DX2-50. 
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   03-Nov-99 13:44:13
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Printers

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-bnmtRPdHodpm@localhost>, on 11/03/99 
   at 06:09 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:21:43, "Terry Haimann" <thaimann@dmreg.infi.net>
>wrote:

>> I believe my HP DeskJet 500 just died and therefore I need to replace it. 
I
>> would like a printer that has its own cpu & memory (Lexmark 5700 NOT) and
one
>> that is also Linux freindly, what are my best choices?
>> 
>> Thx	Terry.
>> 

>What is the problem with the 5700???

5700 is to OS/2 as it and other "winprinters" and winmodems are to Win.
("not a printer", a wag said, a "paper-shuffling" ink-sprayer. Which is
to say that with good drivers, it requires more of the CPU, but works
fine.The Optra Color 40 includes PCL5 and PS and 4 meg memory. Same
cartridges as 5700 and same or lower price (new @ e-bay).

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  03-Nov-99 16:04:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 at 12:48 AM,
   Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)
said:


>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.

At the present time, maybe if there are any left you can buy an AIWA SCSI
tape drive which uses TRAVAN 4 cartridges.  Try computergeeks and
http://www.cc-solutions.com/  also called complete computer solutions.  I
got one of these a year ago and it is great.  I am running it off of a
cheap SCSI card with Nova bak.  These two vendors are also a terrific
source for SCSI and video and NIC cards as well as other stuff.

>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



-- 
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
mchasson@ibm.net
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51 

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 03-Nov-99 20:35:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <381efd7d$1$avpx$mr2ice@client.ce.news.psi.net>, Nick Knight
<nick@secant.com> writes:
>
>NOTE that MR/2 development is still active.  In fact, I'm preparing to
>release a v2.0 before the end of the year.
>

trying not to sound like a snotty ungrateful tightwad wretched OS/2
bottom-feeding nattering nabob of negativism, but :

will v2 of MR/2 ICE work correctly with Unicode fonts in DBCS mail ?
v 1.62 does not . . . 


>Nick
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>Nick Knight  <nick@secant.com>       http://nick.secant.com
>Senior Software Engineer
>Secant Technologies, Inc.             http://www.secant.com
>-----------------------------------------------------------

--
hrad ngravvd

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From: nick@secant.com                                   03-Nov-99 16:02:29
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: Nick Knight <nick@secant.com>

In <c1.2b8.2Sn3Wz$02X@hamei.pacbell.net>, on 11/03/99 
   at 08:35 PM, hamei@pacbell.net said:

>will v2 of MR/2 ICE work correctly with Unicode fonts in DBCS mail ? v
>1.62 does not . . . 

Nope.  Sorry.  I have some DBCS users that seem to be having good luck,
but I can't tell you how they do it.  I do know that I explored full DBCS,
but I saw no way to install a machine with a DBCS version, and if I
managed to do that, I wouldn't have known enough about what I was seeing
to a) work with it and b) prove to me that what I was doing was "working".

If there are enough requests, I may revisit the idea.

Nick
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nick Knight  <nick@secant.com>       http://nick.secant.com
Senior Software Engineer
Secant Technologies, Inc.             http://www.secant.com
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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    03-Nov-99 19:31:04
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:43:30, kenkahn@us.ibm.com wrote:

> (Note to self; remove *all* reference to word syntax from DOC file) <g>

What - you're going to take a REAL ENGLISH WORD (that I learned in 
school) out of the DOC file???? :-)

Methinks people should get educated - 'syntax' is in the 
dictionary...it's not some geek computing term.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   03-Nov-99 20:53:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Printing Problem

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <38206F3B.8216DD3B@swri.org> - Richard Tennis
<RTennis@swri.org>Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:22:03 -0600 writes:
:>
:>I am having trouble printing to a LexMark Optra Color 40 postscript
:>printer.
:>The system in question is a recent install of Warp 4 with FP12 and the
:>Device
:>driver fixpak 1 installed.  I've tried various versions of the
:>postscript drivers,
:>and printer drivers (standard and bidi).  Occasionally I can print
:>something,
:>but usually I get an exception in the spooler or in pscript.drv.  On
:>another
:>machine which is at FP10 (but has had incremental updates through the
:>various fix packs) everything works fine.
:>
:>Any ideas?
:>
:>Thank you in advance,
:>Richard.
:>
:>


Hello Richard

I have just gone through the process of setting up one of these printers and
have concluded that the print01.sys basdev driver without the /IRQ switch
gives the best performance. I couldn't get the bidi driver to work properly,
but I never had any exception errors using it. However when you changed from
standard to bidi and back again did you make sure you changed your BIOS port
settings each time and did you update the port in the printer object
properties setting each time. The update process installs the proper
parallel.pdr file and parallel.hlp file in the x:\os2\dll directory. Other
than this I can offer no other theories.

Good luck with the setup. Hope you get it working soon.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net


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From: pvolsted@image.dk                                 03-Nov-99 18:49:16
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: peter volsted <pvolsted@image.dk>

hi

> lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
-----

> BTW, is there an OS/2 version of nslookup?

-----

Yes, it's part of Warp4, and you'll also get the helpresponse entering:
nslookup
-?

good luck

peter


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From: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnol...               03-Nov-99 21:29:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: WSeB Client sorta news

Message sender: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnoldvanovereem@iname.com

From: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnoldvanovereem@iname.com (Arnold van
Overeem)

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:07:59, kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de (K.-P. 
Kirchdoerfer) wrote:

> 
> The main thing in this announcment seems to be, that there 
> definitely will be a new client, but NOT, (NO, NEVER!!) 
> for SOHO-users.
> 
Which implies that a reseller of hardware could bundle the WceB, in 
combination with some support from a server they have to maintain themselves  
contact with endusers, the new client might become available to the SOHO 
client.
> 

remove windows from your harddisk to reply
==========================================
Arnold van Overeem
==========================================
Let's make the difference/2

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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             03-Nov-99 13:35:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: Asus Mthrbds

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


Clarence wrote:
> 
> Anyone aware of any Asus motherboards supporting AMD's Athlon. Unable to
> find any mention of support on their web site (though AMD's site
> mentions them as one of the supporting manufacturers).
> 
> Clarence


Hey, I just bought one of these from a local computer store for
$189.95.  Such a deal...Anyway, the board comes in a plain white box
labeled with K7M/500/WA in small letters on the outside and a yellow
warning sticker about using a good power supply.  There are no ASUS
markings on the outside.  I am going to save this "stealth" box as a
reminder of the marketplace power that Intel had at the time I purchased
it.  However, inside the box, ASUS puts their name on the enclosed
manual and on the enclosed CD-ROM.  A very nice looking board...The one
I bought is Rev 1.04.

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                03-Nov-99 17:24:24
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

peter volsted <pvolsted@image.dk> said:

>Yes, it's part of Warp4, and you'll also get the helpresponse entering:
>nslookup -?

Oh.  Great.  I thought someone had said to find it "out there."

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: ppridgen@OregonVOS.net                            03-Nov-99 17:45:28
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Netscape 4.61 Question

From: Pat Pridgen <ppridgen@OregonVOS.net>

Hi All,

I recently ran the WarpUp from Indelible Blue, and now have NS 4.61. When
I go into messenger to read the mail, there are headers but I can't seem
to figure out how to 'see' the mail. If I want to reply, then there is the
message with quotes and ready to go. What switch am I missing to make this
work? Thanks for any help.


--
Pat - La Grande,OR.  http://www.greencis.net/~ppridgen
LHS 69   http://school.oregonlive.com/school/lhs1969
Do I believe in WormHoles? Heck, just saw one in my yard.

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From: not-bigshorts@interested.earthli...               04-Nov-99 02:09:13
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Warpseeme ?

Message sender: not-bigshorts@interested.earthlink.net

From: not-bigshorts@interested.earthlink.net (Carl S.)

Since there has been no activity on warpseeme.com since 5/25/99 and 
noone is on the irc channel....

Does anybody know if the project is dead?


Thanks,

Carl S

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From: esitea@inficad.com                                03-Nov-99 19:18:29
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: Bad Install disk

From: Ezra <esitea@inficad.com>

It would be cheaper and quicker to just buy a copy off ebay and get the cdrom
version

Ezra

Valheru wrote:

> I just called IBM and they want me to either buy a new contract, buy version
> 4, or go to egghead and buy version 3 which is on back order 30 days+.
> Arrghhhh !!!!

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From: suprdave@aol.comAolsucks                          04-Nov-99 03:04:23
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: need help upgrading my video card...

From: suprdave@aol.comAolsucks (SUPRDAVE)

Im planning to remove the SVGA adaptor in my PS/2 server 95 and replace it
with
an XGA-2 card in order to realise higher resolutions. I can configure the
hardware side of it easy enough, but what's the best way to get it set up in
warp connect without hosing my perfectly configured system? do i force it to
boot to vga mode, run system setup and select the primary display for XGA-2 or
something different?


D.B. Young.      Team OS/2!
-->this message printed on recycled disk space<--
visit the computers of yesteryear at
http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm
(now accepting donations!)
Delete the obvious (Aolsucks) to reply. 

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From: aljohnson@centuryinter.net                        04-Nov-99 04:47:23
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: FS:  OS/2 AS400 Access Software????

From: aljohnson@centuryinter.net

I have a sealed 27 disk set of software the says AS/400 Client Access for 
Optimized OS/2  5763-XG1 V3R1M1 for sale.  No documentation or manuals only
new 
sealed disks.  Make me an offer...

Allen

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      04-Nov-99 00:26:00
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: 2 Adaptec SCSI's compatible?

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <381E1B77.55DD4E9A@mail.bv.no>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo
<bv@mail.bv.no> writes:

>hamei@pacbell.net wrote:
>
>>
>> I must be missing something here . . . do they make scsi adapter cards
>> which will only accept one device ? One of the loveliest things about
>> SCSI is adding a whole bunch of devices to one card with one IRQ. Why
>> would you want two cards for only two devices ?
>
>Performance. Some tape drives and scanners will load the bus rather heavily,
so if
>the adapter is a low-performance type it may not be a good idea to have your
disks
>on the same string.

But that should only be an issue if you're using the 
scanner/tape/whatever as heavily as you use your HD.  I suspect 
most people scan a few things a day, and maybe take a backup once
a day (probably in the middle of the night, at that) and so the 
bus-contention shouldn't be much of an issue.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: tstreet@excel.net                                 03-Nov-99 21:26:27
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: File size??

From: tom <tstreet@excel.net>

What is the largest single file size that OS/2 will address??

In other words, say I want to have a single file of 1000meg
will OS/2 be able to read it?

How much memory will it cache total?  If the motherboard
can hold 2 gig of RAM, and the max amount is installed
how much can the OS truly use?

--
Tom Street
920-693-2824

   S E M C O
         Street Electric Manufacturing Company
      Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics
      and people with high mobility impairments.

         see it at  http://www.quadjoy.com


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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    03-Nov-99 19:34:16
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: OS2Ezine

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

All the information is there, on the front page of its web site.

Graham.

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From: hunters@my-deja.com                               04-Nov-99 03:52:16
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: How to get two Audio cards to share CDROM output?

From: hunters@my-deja.com

In article <eleS4DQ3N6dS-pn2-Snl5FTP3QNpC@localhost>,
  rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) wrote:

> I think I can get that to work but for one problem.  I'd like to
> listen to CD audio in all OS's.
>
> Can I splice the audio output cable from the cdrom to go to both
> sound card or will that change the impedance?

That should work, but a better solution (IMHO) is to run the internal
CD-Audio into your OS/2 soundcard, and then run a short 1/8" stereo
cable from the line-out of that card to the linein/microphone input on
the SBLive. Then set the volume levels under Win98 appropriatly. I have
done this with my AOpen AW320 and SB16 under Win95 and Warp4.

On a side note: Of the two OSes, I would have to say that Warp handles
multiple soundcards much more logically.

Good luck!

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      04-Nov-99 05:30:07
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: OS2Ezine

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Tony Eamick [Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 Has OS2Ezine closed up or changed url's ? I have been checking there for

Not at all. They have redesigned the site and now they work on a new
publishing system for it (to be able to manage it more effectively).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 04-Nov-99 05:57:10
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:21
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <3820a383$1$avpx$mr2ice@client.ce.news.psi.net>, Nick Knight
<nick@secant.com> writes:
>In <c1.2b8.2Sn3Wz$02X@hamei.pacbell.net>, on 11/03/99 
>   at 08:35 PM, hamei@pacbell.net said:
>
>>will v2 of MR/2 ICE work correctly with Unicode fonts in DBCS mail ? v
>>1.62 does not . . . 
>
>Nope.  Sorry.  I have some DBCS users that seem to be having good luck,
>but I can't tell you how they do it.  I do know that I explored full DBCS,
>but I saw no way to install a machine with a DBCS version, and if I
>managed to do that, I wouldn't have known enough about what I was seeing
>to a) work with it and b) prove to me that what I was doing was "working".
>
>If there are enough requests, I may revisit the idea.
>
>Nick
>-- 

thanks for the quick reply -

even I, the ultimate scrooge os/2 user with anti-corporate tendencies, 
could not expect a Western software guy to get too excited about a 
DBCS application for a thinly-used os in a version you cannot even buy 
in the US !

however, IBM and her henchmen (poetic license, not meant seriously) 
ASSURE me that locale-aware apps opened from the correct codepage
with a Unicode font installed will correctly display the national language.
This has been true with the e.exe editor and a couple of other programs, 
but in my fooling around with MR/2 ICE dbcs/unicode would correctly
display only in the front page -  saving messages in folders made the
display go awry, importing files that correctly display in E.EXE made
the display go awry, attaching correct-displaying Unicode files to 
messages butchered the files, etc etc. 

according to IBM, and for all I know they are right, this should not 
happen in correctly-written locale-aware apps. If this were a matter of
writing MR/2 ICE for Beijing Warp I'd agree with you, but either MR/2
has a problem with its locale-awareness/Unicode handling, or I have 
screwed up somehow. [ impossible :-) ] Since all one should have to 
do is open the program from the correct codepage to display the national 
language correctly, and Unicode must be correctly installed for it to work 
here in E.EXE, ummm, well, maybe MR/2 has a problem ? and the strange 
part is how it works fine in one page but is all butchered in others . . .
since 
it isn't just a dbcs problem, but is actually a locale-aware problem, perhaps 
you might want to look into it a bit further ? 

nice program, otherwise


--
hrad ngravvd

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From: gbierman@fnmail.com                               03-Nov-99 23:17:07
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:21
Subj: randomizer

From: Grant Bierman <gbierman@fnmail.com>

I'm looking for a free/simple program/rexx script that will take a plain
text file and randomize the order of the line therein.

Can anyone help me out here?

------------------[ Web Master/Author For Hire ]-----------------
Grant Bierman <gbierman@fnmail.com> 
-------------------------[ Random Insert ]-----------------------
You can't have everything. Where would you put it?
        -- Steven Wright
------------------------[ ICQ: 22733875 ]------------------------
                      - Yatara.dyndns.org -
                   *All Mail Filtered For Spam*



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From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca                04-Nov-99 06:07:28
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:21
Subj: Re: Warp 4 and Dell Optiplex

From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca (Jack Troughton)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:58:13, "Richard Cohen" <red_manr@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi,       Wondering if anyone has come across this

I look after a Call Ctr that uses Warp 4 on the Dell Optiplex range of PC's
(G1, Gn and older). We are getting intermitent keyboard lockups and have not
found a reason as yet.
The K/Bd locks up but the PC is still usable via mouse.. Unplugging and
repluging the K/Bd seems to resolve the problem "until next time".

I have contacted Dell and they push me to the side saying OS/2 not supported
run Diags...

Any help appriciated

Try pushing the left shift key and see if that unlocks the keyboard.  
It was a bug in the keyboard driver introduced sometime around fixpack
7 or so, and resolved in fixpack 10 or so.  As you can see, I'm very 
precise in my recollections:)  Updating the boxes to a newer fix level
should resolve the problem for you.

Jack Troughton   ICQ:7494149
http://jakesplace.dhs.org
jack.troughton at videotron.ca
jake at jakesplace.dhs.org
Montral PQ Canada

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 04-Nov-99 06:06:15
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:21
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-hGkIndjd5ccz@rikki>, rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) writes:
>On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:43:30, kenkahn@us.ibm.com wrote:
>
>> (Note to self; remove *all* reference to word syntax from DOC file) <g>
>
>What - you're going to take a REAL ENGLISH WORD (that I learned in 
>school) out of the DOC file???? :-)
>
>Methinks people should get educated - 'syntax' is in the 
>dictionary...it's not some geek computing term.
>

two votes for syntax - *very* common word in English, linguistics,
journalism, logic . . if it's a real problem, maybe license BoB from 
our buddies in Redmond, have him help with the hard words :-)

{ or have Tony Wright help with the docs ? :-) }

>-- 
>Bob Eager
>rde at tavi.co.uk
>PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
>8580*6,
>8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..


--
hrad ngravvd

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From: hunters@my-deja.com                               04-Nov-99 07:29:21
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Re: File size??

From: hunters@my-deja.com

In article <3820EEEE.4C1D0C7B@excel.net>,
  tom <tstreet@excel.net> wrote:

> What is the largest single file size that OS/2 will address??

I think you are asking the wrong question here. What you *really* want
to know is; what is the largest file size supported by the file systems
OS/2 can use?

HPFS/HPFS386: 2GB (I think... Largest partition is 64GB)
FAT: 2GB (Also the largest partition size.)
JFS: 2TB (Also the largest volume size. WSeb only.)
      ^Not a typo.

> In other words, say I want to have a single file of 1000meg
> will OS/2 be able to read it?

This is also the wrong question. :) What you want to know is; can OS/2
based applications access a 1000MB file?

OS/2 applications can be written to handle files of any size the file
system supports. However, this does not mean that they all can or will.

> How much memory will it cache total?  If the motherboard
> can hold 2 gig of RAM, and the max amount is installed
> how much can the OS truly use?

HPFS cache is limited to a paltry 2MB. :( FAT cache is somewhat higher,
but the exact number eludes me. HPFS386 and JFS have no practical limit
to the cache size, IIRC. The OS itself will only use a (relatively)
small chunk of memory, and applications will be free to use the rest.

Good luck! :)

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  04-Nov-99 07:33:26
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 where do you get the strong encryption version

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

In article </8DI4oXf0/IS092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
  raphaelt @ worldnet.att.net wrote:
> cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >In article <301385994160612930278014@MYHOSTNAME>,
> >  <jloo@acm.org> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I am trying to get the latest version of Netscape 4.61 for OS2,
strong
> >> encryption. Does anyone know where to get it. So far all the sites
I
> >> have been trying has problems on the downloads.
> >>
> >> Thanks in Advance for your help.
> >
> >I don't know about where to download the "not for export" version of
> >NS4.61, but the "rest of the world" downloads the "weak" version and
> >then goes to http://www.fortify.net to get a little patch that
> >"fortifies" the browser: If there are not also some strange laws that
> >forbid _IMPORTING_ of strong encryption, you could do the same also
from
> >the US, I would suppose (?!)
> >
> >The "fortify" patches for all NS versions came always very shortly
after
> >the release of a new version; the one for NS 4.61 is out several
weeks
> >already.
> >
> >Greetings,
> >Cornelis Bockemhl
> >cbockem@datacomm.ch
> >
> >>
> >> Joseph Loo
> >> jloo@acm.org
>
> I tried to "Fortify" my Netscape 4.61 (I had downloaded the
> version without encryption the first time around) and while
> the browser worked ok, my Comm newsreader kept blowing up,
> so I just uninstalled and then reinstalled the regular
> encryption version....  YMMV, fer sure.

I don't know anything about the newsreader because I only use the
browser and the composer, using other programs for news and mail (i.e.
PMMail and PMINews, or sometimes just Deja.com when "on the road"), but
there I never had any problems with the NS461 version so far.

Besides that, we "rest of the world" citizens don't have a choice, and I
just need strong encryption for my bank account, and that works fine
with Fortify!

Greetings,
Cornelis

NB: Do these US-american authorities really think US cryptography is
better than any other?? I doubt that experts are really believing that.
But the result of the US crypto politics is evident: Really safe
communication is almost inexistent on the internet, just because it must
not be built-in into any software that could ever cross the US border,
and less technically interested or knowledgeable persons would never
fiddle around with something like Fortify, even if it's free and not so
very complicated to use! It's a pity...

> --
> Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com
>


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From: pcgodda@freeuk.com                                04-Nov-99 07:49:10
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: "Paul Goddard" <pcgodda@freeuk.com>

Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to Win98 (FAT16) so
that the longnames are prserved?  I am using Warp 3 and am reluctant to
apply any fixpacks owing to bad experiences in the past.


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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  04-Nov-99 08:33:25
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Observation...

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

Those of you who read the WarpCast news will have read about the end of
OS/2 support for "MainActor" (see
http://www.os2ss.com/warpcast/wc4368.html) - a software which I do not
need myself, but still another bit of bad news for "the OS/2 world".

What is interesting in my eyes is the reason: It's NOT "the market", but
"problems with IBMs new VisualAge C++ v4 for OS/2". (NB: Also the NT
version still needs some "ripening" after what I read in the german
computer magazine "c't" a while ago. NB2: My own free Astronomy
software at http://www.datacomm.ch/cobo is written with VAC++ v3.0 and
I also hesitate very much going to v4.0...).

The result is: They do not just give up the OS/2 version, but they also
give up the IBM VAC++ compiler and the (IBM) OpenClass libraries and use
use "egc / gcc / VisualC as compilers and Qt as object classes" instead
- so not a single IBM product left!

Did the marketing responsibles at IBM ever think as far as taking into
account such results of their marginalizing politics towards OS/2?? I am
rather sure a company that once did the step mentioned will never return
to any IBM product in the short or middle term (!?)

Greetings,
Cornelis


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          04-Nov-99 17:21:05
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Re: need help upgrading my video card...

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On 04 Nov 1999 03:04:46 GMT, SUPRDAVE wrote:

:>Im planning to remove the SVGA adaptor in my PS/2 server 95 and replace it
with
:>an XGA-2 card in order to realise higher resolutions. I can configure the
:>hardware side of it easy enough, but what's the best way to get it set up in
:>warp connect without hosing my perfectly configured system? do i force it to
:>boot to vga mode, run system setup and select the primary display for XGA-2
or
:>something different?
:>
:>
:>D.B. Young.      Team OS/2!
:>-->this message printed on recycled disk space<--
:>visit the computers of yesteryear at
:>http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm
:>(now accepting donations!)
:>Delete the obvious (Aolsucks) to reply. 
:>

Reset to VGA before removing your old card or if you've
already installed the new one hit ALT-F1 at the OS/2
blob and select f3. When it boots just install the drivers
for the new card. Does the one you have now have an
option to de-install and remove the files associated with
it? If so do that before installing the new card.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: itdcww@its.hants.gov.uk                           04-Nov-99 09:47:22
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: OS/2 Warp 3 Boot Manager

From: "Warren Won" <itdcww@its.hants.gov.uk>

I am new to this newsgroup, so please forgive me if this question has
already been asked a million times.....

I am trying to run FDISK (from my OS/2 Warp 3 installation disks) on a 13Gb
IDE hard disk, so I can run Boot Manager. However, it will not recognise
anything over 8Gb and ends up trashing everything I have on any partitions
at the end of the disk.

I know that there were issues with the 1024 cylinder boundary, but are there
any updates to FDISK that fix this (and if so, where can I get my grubby
paws on them)?

Many thanks,
Warren.


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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   04-Nov-99 02:56:06
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp 3 Boot Manager

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

Warren Won wrote:
> 
> I am new to this newsgroup, so please forgive me if this question has
> already been asked a million times.....
> 
> I am trying to run FDISK (from my OS/2 Warp 3 installation disks) on a 13Gb
> IDE hard disk, so I can run Boot Manager. However, it will not recognise
> anything over 8Gb and ends up trashing everything I have on any partitions
> at the end of the disk.
> 
> I know that there were issues with the 1024 cylinder boundary, but are there
> any updates to FDISK that fix this (and if so, where can I get my grubby
> paws on them)?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Warren.

What you need is an updated IDE driver as the issue is not with fdisk.
Can't remember which fixpack has the updated one. Anyone?

-- 

**********************
DigiGraph Technical
http://www.dgraph.com
**********************

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                04-Nov-99 05:37:20
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp 3 Boot Manager

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:47:45 -0000, Warren Won wrote:

>I am new to this newsgroup, so please forgive me if this question has
>already been asked a million times.....
>
>I am trying to run FDISK (from my OS/2 Warp 3 installation disks) on a 13Gb
>IDE hard disk, so I can run Boot Manager. However, it will not recognise
>anything over 8Gb and ends up trashing everything I have on any partitions
>at the end of the disk.
>
>I know that there were issues with the 1024 cylinder boundary, but are there
>any updates to FDISK that fix this (and if so, where can I get my grubby
>paws on them)?

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe



 - Mike

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                04-Nov-99 05:39:01
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 07:49:21 GMT, Paul Goddard wrote:

>Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to Win98 (FAT16) so
>that the longnames are prserved?  I am using Warp 3 and am reluctant to
>apply any fixpacks owing to bad experiences in the past.

There is a VFAT IFS driver around, which has some limitations, but should
work well enough to do what you want.  Just search for VFAT at
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    04-Nov-99 05:54:27
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-hGkIndjd5ccz@rikki>,
rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:
>On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:43:30, kenkahn@us.ibm.com wrote:
>
>> (Note to self; remove *all* reference to word syntax from DOC file) <g>
>
>What - you're going to take a REAL ENGLISH WORD (that I learned in 
>school) out of the DOC file???? :-)
>
>Methinks people should get educated - 'syntax' is in the 
>dictionary...it's not some geek computing term.

Syntax?  Isn't that what you pay the government when you have a bit of
fun?  ;-)

-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp 3 Boot Manager

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From: miket@interact.net.au                             03-Nov-99 10:09:07
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Using a networked HP LJ3100 ?

From: miket@interact.net.au    (Michael Taylor)

James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> writes:
> 
> 
> Michael Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > We have a HP LJ3100 installed on a NT Server V4 file and print
> > server.
> > 
> > Is there any way I can print to it from OS/2 V4?
> > 
> > I know it is a WinPrinter and we have the HP JetSuite installed
> > on the NT box. The NT4 WS boxes can print to it but only from Win
> > Apps (ie "print' from the DOS command line doesn't work!).
> > 
>     The printer has to be shared from the NT box. You can then use it
> from the os/2 system. You will also need an os/2 printer driver on your
> system.
> 

I wish it were that simple. This printer replaced a LJ 3 - which worked fine.
However the LJ 3100 is some sort of WinPrinter and doesn't seem to work with
anything other than the Win NT workstations and even then only with Win Apps.
DOS Apps cannot print to it even under NT.

I expected to be able to send something to it from OS/2 by printing to the
share but
this didn't even register on the NT Server - it appeared to print NOTHING. 
No lights flickered and the printer object on Nt showed NOTHING in the print
queue.

Has anyone succesfully used a LJ3100 with OS/2? Over a network or otherwise?

--
Regards,                    Michael Taylor
Mike                        miket@interact.net.au
-------------------------------------------------
  Home Page: http://users.interact.net.au/~pmiy
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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                04-Nov-99 12:44:28
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:27:17, possum@tree.branch (Mike 
Trettel) wrote:

...could I use a CD-RW unit
(either ATAPI or SCSI) as a plain cd-rom drive for the time being?

Sure can - for both. Without the driver system, they act 
just like any other cdrom drive.



________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                04-Nov-99 12:45:00
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:49:34, ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk 
(Andrew Stephenson) wrote:

...The
problem (with RSJ's software solution at least -- I do not know
about the other freeware one (name escapes me)) is, if you want
to have use the drive both as normal CD and as a recorder, the
two sets of driver software are liable to fight over ownership.

That's the short version, AFAIR it.

That has not been my experience. Until I `attach' RSJ to the
drive it can function as an ordinary drive - even with the 
RSJ driver loaded at bootup. Once attached, after you 
`finalize' and deattach (is that a word?), the drive goes 
back to functioning as an ordinary drive.



________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

To send email - remove the `yyy'
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From: mikus@bga.com                                     04-Nov-99 08:33:07
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: mikus@bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs)

>
> however, IBM and her henchmen (poetic license, not meant seriously)
> ASSURE me that locale-aware apps opened from the correct codepage
> with a Unicode font installed will correctly display the national language.

*IF* all the user's correspondence is in ONE national language,
code pages and locale-aware apps manage to get the job done.

But what if a that user has to deal with MULTIPLE national
languages in quick succession, or even simultaneously?  If
there is not a common character set between those languages
then IMHO OS/2 'locale' concept becomes just another PITA.

mikus

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From: J.Harbinson@ATO.DLO.NL                            04-Nov-99 14:13:16
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: WSeB Client sorta news

From: "DLO News" <J.Harbinson@ATO.DLO.NL>

The clarifications from IBM (nice OSs, shame about the leadership)of the
first posting that (mistakenly) implied that they would make a client
available only to corporate customers seem to leave open all sorts of
possibilities. Presumably any 'corporate customer' could specify a client
package and make it available to client machines. Would it, therefore, be
possible for a company, such as Mensys here in the Netherlands, to supply
such client pacakges to its customers? And would this strategy also work
with the Java and Netscape upgrages? If the clients needed to be on a
network, could a company such as Mensys establish itself as notional service
provider whose connection software CD included not only a browser, email
clients etc, but also the client OS/2 package needed to run all the
communications packages (which, of course, would be OS/2 packages)? The more
you think about it, the more such permutations there are; question is 'is
this all just a load of bollocks'?
all the best,
Jeremy



Arnold van Overeem wrote in message ...
>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:07:59, kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de (K.-P.
>Kirchdoerfer) wrote:
>
>>
>> The main thing in this announcment seems to be, that there
>> definitely will be a new client, but NOT, (NO, NEVER!!)
>> for SOHO-users.
>>
>Which implies that a reseller of hardware could bundle the WceB, in
>combination with some support from a server they have to maintain
themselves
>. Which implies that under certain conditions which shield IBM from
direct
>contact with endusers, the new client might become available to the SOHO
>client.
>>
>
>remove windows from your harddisk to reply
>==========================================
>Arnold van Overeem
>==========================================
>Let's make the difference/2


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From: letoured@nospam.net                               04-Nov-99 09:20:01
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: letoured@nospam.net

Get over it guys. If you can't contribute to the understanding so people
have less trouble in the future -- you're not much different then an MS
troll.

Most of us understood what syntax word means.  --  I'm not referring to
just the Bootos2 usage here, but  the way most programmers use it fails to
meet a dictionary definition that could be called a "grammatical sentence"
-- even in the context of programming commands.  And without that, you
don't have SYNTAX.  As a group they also use it inconsistently.



>>> (Note to self; remove *all* reference to word syntax from DOC file) <g>
>>
>>What - you're going to take a REAL ENGLISH WORD (that I learned in 
>>school) out of the DOC file???? :-)
>>
>>Methinks people should get educated - 'syntax' is in the 
>>dictionary...it's not some geek computing term.
>>

>two votes for syntax - *very* common word in English, linguistics,
>journalism, logic . . if it's a real problem, maybe license BoB from  our
>buddies in Redmond, have him help with the hard words :-)

>{ or have Tony Wright help with the docs ? :-) }

>>-- 
>>Bob Eager
>>rde at tavi.co.uk
>>PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
>>8580*6,
>>8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..


>--
>hrad ngravvd

_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                04-Nov-99 14:37:02
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>


Bob Germer wrote:

>You are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
I wish I was.

>I have installed Warp 4, WSEB, etc. on

> a minimum of 200 different machines with DIMMS and greater than 64 megs of
> memory. It was all seen on every one of them and there are at least 30
> different motherboards and chipsets involved.

That's great !  I wish my Gigabyte GA-5AA was 'right' (for OS/2).

So please educate me:
Do these mobo's support SIMMS ? I'm interested in the one's that do not.

Thanks for your attention & effort.

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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            04-Nov-99 07:58:00
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: randomizer

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

It's not very elegant, but the following should work:

/* get a random line from a file */
Parse Arg file
Do i = 1 While Lines(file)
   line.i = Linein(file)
End
pick = Random(1, i)
Say 'Line' pick 'of' file 'is' line.pick
Return line.pick

Grant Bierman wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a free/simple program/rexx script that will take a plain
> text file and randomize the order of the line therein.
> 
> Can anyone help me out here?
> 
> ------------------[ Web Master/Author For Hire ]-----------------
> Grant Bierman <gbierman@fnmail.com>
> -------------------------[ Random Insert ]-----------------------
> You can't have everything. Where would you put it?
>         -- Steven Wright
> ------------------------[ ICQ: 22733875 ]------------------------
>                       - Yatara.dyndns.org -
>                    *All Mail Filtered For Spam*

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                04-Nov-99 09:55:17
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: What the #@! happened here?????

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

I just had a disaster and haven't a clue what caused it.  I'd like to at least
learn something here.  If anybody has a clue, please tell me.

Late yesterday I cleaned a few files out of my ZIP archive.  I also moved some
into my "paid for" archive - both using one file management program.  A little
later I discovered that the moved files were not readable by UNZIP and the ZIP
test said they had no directories.

A little later when I was through cleaning house I backed up my INI files and
ran CHECKINI.  The INI files are on a different partition and different
physical
drive.  Later I discovered the new INI files were identical in size to the old
ones - even after deleting some working but unused programs.

I decided to reboot.  When it came up again I had no WarpCenter.  So I decided
to do a system archive restore from two days ago.  I keep my system archives
on
yet another partition.  It got to the point of saying "Restoring Key files"
and
just sat there for 20 minutes.

Next I powered off directly, forcing a CHKDSK on all partitions on reboot -
without archive restore.  Still no WarpCenter - no surprise.

I decided to see if I could get online.  I drug Injoy, MR2ICE and Netscape
onto
the WarpCenter.  I got online with both email and browser.  But I noticed that
the Injoy icon I had changed slightly had gone back to original.

I rebooted and went for the archive #2.  Again it sits there staring at me.  I
booted again without restore.  Same story as before - no WarpCenter, but my
desktop looks like something I've never seen before.

I tried booting to my last partition (J), a maintenance partition set up by
bootos2.  It fired up, but Solitaire, from my OS/2 boot drive and put there
for
experimental putposes, didn't work.

Once again I tried a system archive restore.  Still it sits there staring at
me,
with the hard drive making sounds like its in a loop - the same little
brip-brip
over and over.  Finally I walked away, leaving the computer running, and went
to
bed.  This morning the system is running placidly - with no WarpCenter, but
the
desktop looks normal.  OS2.INI is somewhat larger than it was.  Solitaire from
the OS/2 boot partition works fine.

I'm at a loss.  What could effect so many different things in at least four
different partitions and two different drives like that?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir                     04-Nov-99 15:31:25
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: How a c++ program can communicate with a Device Driver ?

From: salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir

I must work with a storage device that is connected to serial port of
my computer . How i can interact with it's device driver and use it's
provided services  ,for example,in a c/c++ program . Please show me an
example if possible .


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                04-Nov-99 10:48:22
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

hamei@pacbell.net said:

>two votes for syntax - *very* common word 

Yep.  Very frequently applied in programming.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             04-Nov-99 10:50:17
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: WSeB Client sorta news

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

But I understood that such 'subsets' of WSeB are still going to cost US$1600
each (less whatever quantity discounts or site-license discounts are
available).

So although it may be technically very simple to do what you suggest, it
appears
to be unacceptable economically.

Alan


DLO News wrote:

> The clarifications from IBM (nice OSs, shame about the leadership)of the
> first posting that (mistakenly) implied that they would make a client
> available only to corporate customers seem to leave open all sorts of
> possibilities. Presumably any 'corporate customer' could specify a client
> package and make it available to client machines. Would it, therefore, be
> possible for a company, such as Mensys here in the Netherlands, to supply
> such client pacakges to its customers? And would this strategy also work
> with the Java and Netscape upgrages? If the clients needed to be on a
> network, could a company such as Mensys establish itself as notional service
> provider whose connection software CD included not only a browser, email
> clients etc, but also the client OS/2 package needed to run all the
> communications packages (which, of course, would be OS/2 packages)? The more
> you think about it, the more such permutations there are; question is 'is
> this all just a load of bollocks'?
> all the best,
> Jeremy
>
> Arnold van Overeem wrote in message ...
> >On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:07:59, kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de (K.-P.
> >Kirchdoerfer) wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The main thing in this announcment seems to be, that there
> >> definitely will be a new client, but NOT, (NO, NEVER!!)
> >> for SOHO-users.
> >>
> >Which implies that a reseller of hardware could bundle the WceB, in
> >combination with some support from a server they have to maintain
> themselves
> >. Which implies that under certain conditions which shield IBM from
> direct
> >contact with endusers, the new client might become available to the SOHO
> >client.
> >>
> >
> >remove windows from your harddisk to reply
> >==========================================
> >Arnold van Overeem
> >==========================================
> >Let's make the difference/2

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          04-Nov-99 15:01:12
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <M3mPvLdzxX1t-pn2-Y2Z3ZGDr9YxT@localhost>
	   rjf@yyycomasia.com "rj friedman" writes:

> On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:49:34, ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk
> (Andrew Stephenson) wrote:
>
> ...The
> problem (with RSJ's software solution at least -- I do not know
> about the other freeware one (name escapes me)) is, if you want
> to have use the drive both as normal CD and as a recorder, the
> two sets of driver software are liable to fight over ownership.
> 
> That's the short version, AFAIR it.
>
> That has not been my experience. Until I `attach' RSJ to the
> drive it can function as an ordinary drive - even with the
> RSJ driver loaded at bootup. Once attached, after you
> `finalize' and deattach (is that a word?), the drive goes
> back to functioning as an ordinary drive.

Then clearly I do not have my peripherals set up properly.  As I
also have a "real CD drive", I did not investigate the issue too
far.  During boot-up, the RSJ software identifies CD-RW and CD-RO
and tags them appropriately (the CD-RO as WORM, AFAIR).  Once the
system is running, I cannot find any icon for the CD-RW in folder
System|Drives until RSJ attaches the drive.  Nor can CLI commands
access it.  This pretty solidly prevents me using the CD-RW as a
fall-back CD-RO, unless I evict the RSJ driver from CONFIG.SYS, a
messy solution -- or did I miss some neat trick?  (Using v. 2.84)

Try "detach" instead of "deattach".  <g>
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: sruli87202@aol.com                                04-Nov-99 15:58:00
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 Boot disks with Iomega Jazz drives

From: sruli87202@aol.com (SRuli87202)

Thanks for your suggestion.  That seemed to do the trick.  I don't know why
that didn't occure to me.

Thanks again.

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          04-Nov-99 15:07:17
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <5UaU3.270$3g.4922@nnrp4.clara.net>
	   pcgodda@freeuk.com "Paul Goddard" writes:

> Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to
> Win98 (FAT16) so that the longnames are prserved?  I am using
> Warp 3 and am reluctant to apply any fixpacks owing to bad
> experiences in the past.

Yes.  Zip them using an EA-aware OS/2 version of PKZip's utility,
or a functional equivalent.  Make a FAT16 floppy the target.  If
the output is bigger than one disk will hold, Zip will overflow
it onto as many disks as it takes.  At the other end, use native
versions of the same zipping software to unpack everything.  Be
sure to number your (many?) floppies carefully.  ;-)
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                04-Nov-99 10:50:19
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

letoured@nospam.net said:

>Most of us understood what syntax word means.  --  I'm not referring to just
>the Bootos2 usage here, but  the way most programmers use it fails to meet a
>dictionary definition that could be called a "grammatical sentence" -- even
in
>the context of programming commands.  And without that, you don't have
SYNTAX. 
>As a group they also use it inconsistently.

In the docs version I submitted to Ken I used the word "syntax" as I have seen
it used before in similar uses.  That is, in a single line indicating HOW you
put words in place after the main command.  (I do not, however, know the
exactly
proper uses of the delimiters.)  The specific options are listed following the
command line parameters list.  This kind of use I have seen often.  Maybe no
one
else has.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    04-Nov-99 08:04:10
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: File size??

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

It depends which version of the operating system you use. Warp Server
Advanced SMP (and presumably WSeB) has an additional file system (whose
name I forget offhand) which allows addressing huge amounts of data
across multiple volumes: it allows use of up to 128 volumes because it
isn't limited by drive letters. The catch is that it is very low-level
stuff, so you'd have to do more of the work yourself; it's presumably
mainly there for things like DB/2 (but I don't know if it uses it!).

Graham.

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                04-Nov-99 11:20:17
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

lifedata@xxvol.com said:

>The specific options are listed following the
>command line parameters list.  This kind of use I have seen often.  Maybe no
>one else has.

That is, "the line following * IN * the command line parameters list."

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: jgetsoian@compuserve.com                          04-Nov-99 11:22:25
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: "John Getsoian" <jgetsoian@compuserve.com>

On Thu, 04 Nov 99 15:01:25 GMT, Andrew Stephenson wrote:

>Then clearly I do not have my peripherals set up properly.  As I
>also have a "real CD drive", I did not investigate the issue too
>far.  During boot-up, the RSJ software identifies CD-RW and CD-RO
>and tags them appropriately (the CD-RO as WORM, AFAIR).  Once the
>system is running, I cannot find any icon for the CD-RW in folder
>System|Drives until RSJ attaches the drive.

Andrew;

To prevent RSJ from marking your CDR as WORM and allow the OS2CDROM
driver to share it,  make two changes to config.sys: Rem out the lock
filter and add the /ALL param to the aspi driver. I don't think this
is covered in the PDF manual but is in the readme.

BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
rem BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT


regards;
-john getsoian
(jgetsoian@compuserve.com)


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Nov-99 18:48:20
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:21
Subj: Re: Printers

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:44:26, htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) wrote:

> 5700 is to OS/2 as it and other "winprinters" and winmodems are to Win.
> ("not a printer", a wag said, a "paper-shuffling" ink-sprayer. Which is
> to say that with good drivers, it requires more of the CPU, but works
> fine.The Optra Color 40 includes PCL5 and PS and 4 meg memory. Same
> cartridges as 5700 and same or lower price (new @ e-bay).
>  
> -- 
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
> DemostiX
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>  

At least the 5700 has OS/2 drivers, and does work, quite well... 
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: RTennis@swri.org                                  04-Nov-99 14:44:20
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:22
Subj: Re: Printing Problem

From: Richard Tennis <RTennis@swri.org>

Ted,

Thank you for your response.  I read the messages pertaining to your
struggle with printing.  I did check the port settings as you suggested
but I dont think that was the problem.  I have another clue - if I try
to print to a file I have the same problems, so this does not seem to
be port related.  I am not sure where to go next . . .

Richard.

Ted Miller wrote:

> In message <38206F3B.8216DD3B@swri.org> - Richard Tennis
> <RTennis@swri.org>Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:22:03 -0600 writes:
> :>
> :>I am having trouble printing to a LexMark Optra Color 40 postscript
> :>printer.
> :>The system in question is a recent install of Warp 4 with FP12 and the
> :>Device
> :>driver fixpak 1 installed.  I've tried various versions of the
> :>postscript drivers,
> :>and printer drivers (standard and bidi).  Occasionally I can print
> :>something,
> :>but usually I get an exception in the spooler or in pscript.drv.  On
> :>another
> :>machine which is at FP10 (but has had incremental updates through the
> :>various fix packs) everything works fine.
> :>
> :>Any ideas?
> :>
> :>Thank you in advance,
> :>Richard.
> :>
> :>
>
> Hello Richard
>
> I have just gone through the process of setting up one of these printers and
> have concluded that the print01.sys basdev driver without the /IRQ switch
> gives the best performance. I couldn't get the bidi driver to work properly,
> but I never had any exception errors using it. However when you changed from
> standard to bidi and back again did you make sure you changed your BIOS port
> settings each time and did you update the port in the printer object
> properties setting each time. The update process installs the proper
> parallel.pdr file and parallel.hlp file in the x:\os2\dll directory. Other
> than this I can offer no other theories.
>
> Good luck with the setup. Hope you get it working soon.
>
> Ted Miller
> ecmille@ibm.net

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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           04-Nov-99 16:18:16
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 19:52:02
Subj: Re: randomizer

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

Chuck McKinnis wrote:
> 
> It's not very elegant, but the following should work:
> 
> /* get a random line from a file */
> Parse Arg file
> Do i = 1 While Lines(file)
>    line.i = Linein(file)
> End
> pick = Random(1, i)
> Say 'Line' pick 'of' file 'is' line.pick
> Return line.pick
> 
> Grant Bierman wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking for a free/simple program/rexx script that will take a plain
> > text file and randomize the order of the line therein.
> >
> > Can anyone help me out here?
> >
> > ------------------[ Web Master/Author For Hire ]-----------------
> > Grant Bierman <gbierman@fnmail.com>
> > -------------------------[ Random Insert ]-----------------------
> > You can't have everything. Where would you put it?
> >         -- Steven Wright
> > ------------------------[ ICQ: 22733875 ]------------------------
> >                       - Yatara.dyndns.org -
> >                    *All Mail Filtered For Spam*
> 
> --
> Chuck McKinnis
> Senior Systems Engineer
> Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
> IBM Business Partner
> IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

Heck, in the old days, all we needed to do was produce punched cards of
the file, and then toss them in front of a powerful fan, and let a
junior clerk pick them back up and reload them!
-- 

============================================================
To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers"
portion of the Reply to: value.

Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
Voix:        (613) 531-8767   Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935
Telecopieur: (613) 531-8684   Email: kahnt@adan.kingston.net

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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            04-Nov-99 22:21:22
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 19:52:02
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <F0bNi6i4K1KK-pn2-x5PDRY04GCtg@localhost>, on 11/03/1999 
   at 05:05 PM, nospam@nospam.com (Magnus Olsson) said:

>> > On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:01:06, F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
>> >
>> > > Suddenly today I got this message:
>> > >
>> > > =================
>> > > Disk Error
>> > >
>> > > The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
>> > > be written to disk. The updates are
>> > > being held to automatically retry the
>> > > operation, but will be lost if the
>> > > system is shutdown before correcting
>> > > the problem.
>> > > =================
>> > >
><snip>

>> Could it be that your bootdrive is full /or almost full ?? Good luck
>No, not unless 600 MB left can be considered almost full:-)
> 
>Anyway i haven't had this problem again since backing out of fp12 to 
>fp8.

I had this ONE other time, again after running the same banking app as
short before the first time (under WINOS2 though seamless - see the
relevant suggestion in that direction somewhere in this thread), so I
go for that suggestion that not fp 12 but GRADD 0.80 is the cause and
I will backout to S3 v3.03.29 as soon as this happens again.


Frits

-- 
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.69

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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   04-Nov-99 23:38:00
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: Printing Problem

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <3821F037.4F076597@swri.org> - Richard Tennis <RTennis@swri.org>
writes:
:>
:>Ted,
:>
:>Thank you for your response.  I read the messages pertaining to your
:>struggle with printing.  I did check the port settings as you suggested
:>but I dont think that was the problem.  I have another clue - if I try
:>to print to a file I have the same problems, so this does not seem to
:>be port related.  I am not sure where to go next . . .
:>
:>Richard.
:>

Hello Richard 

This is a long shot. Right click on your printer object and move your mouse to
the <set default> choice in the menu. Is there two choices for the optra one
of them having the letters PQ in the name? If so then your installation did
not go smoothly and I would suggest you delete everything to do with the
printer installation and try a re-install.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net

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From: ahc@lanl.gov                                      04-Nov-99 17:39:14
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: Looking for a Hex editor.

From: "Allen Cogbill" <ahc@lanl.gov>

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 05:47:00 GMT, Edmond Dantes wrote:

>I've tried a few of the hex editors on Hobbes and they all seem to 
>crash regularly
>or lack features.  Can anyone tell me where I can get a stable, 
>feature rich,
>native hex editor.
 
The KON editor is an OS/2 PM editor that has a quite usable hex 
editing mode...you may want to check it out (search for KON on 
Hobbes).

Allen Cogbill
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Los Alamos, NM  USA


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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      05-Nov-99 00:48:28
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: File size??

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Graham C. Norris [Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com] ->
comp.os.os2.misc:

 It depends which version of the operating system you use. Warp Server
 Advanced SMP (and presumably WSeB) has an additional file system (whose
 name I forget offhand) which allows addressing huge amounts of data

JFS. It supports data in the Terrabyte range (which is OK, even if perhaps not
at as huge as the Exabyte range some other file systems supports).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          04-Nov-99 21:33:06
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <wtrgfbvnapbzchfreirpbz.fkoli30.pminews@news.compuserve.com>
	   jgetsoian@compuserve.com "John Getsoian" writes:

> To prevent RSJ from marking your CDR as WORM and allow the
> OS2CDROM driver to share it, make two changes to config.sys:
> Rem out the lock filter and add the /ALL param to the aspi
> driver. I don't think this is covered in the PDF manual but is
> in the readme.
>
> BASEDEV=OS2ASPI.DMD /ALL
> rem BASEDEV=LOCKCDR.FLT

Thank you.  The ASPI line was already as you suggest; but I have
now tweaked the LOCKCDR line too.  At next reboot (tomorrow), we
shall see what we shall see. <g>
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          05-Nov-99 08:15:11
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 07:49:21 GMT, Paul Goddard wrote:

:>Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to Win98 (FAT16) so
:>that the longnames are prserved?  I am using Warp 3 and am reluctant to
:>apply any fixpacks owing to bad experiences in the past.
:>
:>

I'm sure I've read here that the easiest way would be to zip up
the files and then unzip them on the Win98 machine.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: Wm D Loughman@localhost.foo.bar                   05-Nov-99 02:19:15
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:22
Subj: Re: Looking for a Hex editor.

From: Wm D Loughman@localhost.foo.bar ()

In article <nupynaytbi.fkp2xt0.pminews@newshost.lanl.gov>, Allen Cogbill
wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 05:47:00 GMT, Edmond Dantes wrote:
>
>>I've tried a few of the hex editors on Hobbes and they all seem to 
>>crash regularly
>>or lack features.  Can anyone tell me where I can get a stable, 
>>feature rich,
>>native hex editor.
> 
>The KON editor is an OS/2 PM editor that has a quite usable hex 
>editing mode...you may want to check it out (search for KON on 
>Hobbes).
>
>Allen Cogbill


KON is Excellent!  BMTMicro for the latest shareware version.


Wm D Loughman
Berkeley, CA  USA
wdlkhl@attglobal.net

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          05-Nov-99 11:28:16
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:22
Subj: Lexmark Optra Color 40

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

Buddy or anyone else who knows,

Could you (pretty) please give me a link where I can get
one of the aforementioned printers for $160. I did a search
on Deja.com but the best I could find was $220.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            04-Nov-99 22:40:14
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: How a c++ program can communicate with a Device Driver ?

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <7vs8t7$scv$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir
says...
>I must work with a storage device that is connected to serial port of
>my computer . How i can interact with it's device driver and use it's
>provided services  ,for example,in a c/c++ program . Please show me an
>example if possible .
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
>

Serial port driver api?

-- 
---------------------------------------
David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
---------------------------------------

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From: tstreet@excel.net                                 04-Nov-99 21:23:17
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: File size??

From: tom <tstreet@excel.net>


Martin Nisshagen wrote:

> Graham C. Norris [Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com] ->
> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
>  It depends which version of the operating system you use. Warp Server
>  Advanced SMP (and presumably WSeB) has an additional file system (whose
>  name I forget offhand) which allows addressing huge amounts of data
>
> JFS. It supports data in the Terrabyte range (which is OK, even if perhaps
not
> at as huge as the Exabyte range some other file systems supports).
>
> Best regards,
>
> m a r t i n | n

A Terrabyte as a single file?

--
Tom Street
920-693-2824

   S E M C O
         Street Electric Manufacturing Company
      Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics
      and people with high mobility impairments.

         see it at  http://www.quadjoy.com


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From: tstreet@excel.net                                 04-Nov-99 21:25:01
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: File size??

From: tom <tstreet@excel.net>


Martin Nisshagen wrote:

> Graham C. Norris [Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com] ->
> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
>  It depends which version of the operating system you use. Warp Server
>  Advanced SMP (and presumably WSeB) has an additional file system (whose
>  name I forget offhand) which allows addressing huge amounts of data
>
> JFS. It supports data in the Terrabyte range (which is OK, even if perhaps
not
> at as huge as the Exabyte range some other file systems supports).
>
> Best regards,
>
> m a r t i n | n

A Terrabyte as a single file?

--
Tom Street
920-693-2824

   S E M C O
         Street Electric Manufacturing Company
      Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics
      and people with high mobility impairments.

         see it at  http://www.quadjoy.com


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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          04-Nov-99 15:27:02
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:53:45, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

:is there an OS/2 version of nslookup?

 It should live in x:\tcpip\bin\nslookup.exe (in Warp 4). There's also
an OS/2-native nslookup.exe in Bind, at Hobbes or Leo.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   04-Nov-99 22:57:08
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra Color 40

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <jnlargxonggarwc.fkqgfl0.pminews@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp>, on 11/05/99 
   at 11:28 AM, "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> said:

>Buddy or anyone else who knows,

>Could you (pretty) please give me a link where I can get
>one of the aforementioned printers for $160. I did a search on Deja.com
>but the best I could find was $220.

>Cheers

>Wayne

>******************************************************
>Wayne Bickell
>Tokyo, Japan
>wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
>******************************************************
>           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
>  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
>******************************************************

There was another retailer selling @$180. But a good deal is probably
from one of two friends at Colorodo State, selling them on ebay.com.
Last sale was for $135 +$15 (stateside) shipping and handling. Both have
good ratings.

The buysurplus.com price of $220 does include (stateside) shipping until
2000. -- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           05-Nov-99 04:19:06
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: File size??

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 02:25:02, tom <tstreet@excel.net> wrote:

> 
> A Terrabyte as a single file?
> 

With JFS the single file can even span multiple
physical volumes(drives). The file system can extend
a logical volume by attaching another physical drive
to add more storage space without any need for
backing up existing data and restoring to the new
partition.

Lorne Sunley


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From: fgearhart@voyager.net                             05-Nov-99 05:26:18
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: fgearhart@voyager.net

On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:33:19, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 
(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:

> jldasch@3-cities.com (John L. Daschbach) wrote:
> 
> >schnip>
> >
> >	Perspective:
> >	OS/2 (with Object Desktop) still has one of the best user
> >interfaces going.  Much of this is because of the WPS and SOME.
> >Nothing I have used or read about approaches OS/2 in terms of desktop
> >power *and* configurability.  However this comes at a price, and that
> >price is stability.  I have had OS/2 up for weeks, but at times,
> >especially when using *real* applications, the WPS gets totally
> >wacked, windows don't repaint, objects partially freeze on the screen,
> >the system won't respond to keyboard or mouse.  This is typically when
> >using the combination of Navigator and a Lotus product (WordPro, 123,
> >Approach, Freelance).  The only solution is a hard reboot.  Other
> >times programs have problems and there is no way to kill them, at
> >least using the tools I have.  In other words, OS/2 when it works is
> >great, when it doesn't it's hell.
> >
> >more schnip>
> >	
> >	Thoughts?
> >
> >-John
> 
> 
> Uh huh.  1) Uninstall OD, which is probably 95% of what's
> kerflooey on your system.  Replace with freeware Xfolder.
> 2) Apply the latest fix for Netscape 4.04.  3) Reinstall
> your video drivers, especially if there's newer ones
> available for your card.  4) Clean up your INI files with
> Henk Kelder's wptools.
> 
> -Ray
> 
> -- 
> 
> Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

Really?  I've been running OD1.5 since it came out, and kinda 
suspected it caused some instability, but was never certain.  
Especially since I couldn't directly attribute any 'hangs' to OD.  
Does it really cause instability problems?  Is it better in OD2.0?

Fritz

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    04-Nov-99 21:33:28
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: File size??

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

Martin Nisshagen wrote:
>  It depends which version of the operating system you use. Warp Server
>  Advanced SMP (and presumably WSeB) has an additional file system (whose
>  name I forget offhand) which allows addressing huge amounts of data
> 
> JFS.

No, not JFS. JFS was not included with Warp Server Advanced SMP, only
with WSeB (and AIX of course).

Graham.

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From: reedjd@bitsmart.com                               05-Nov-99 05:43:03
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: MS-CHAP support in Warp4

From: reedjd@bitsmart.com

  I'm looking for how I can use the MS-CHAP protocol under OS/2 to
connect to my companies LAN.  I haven't been able to find any on
Hobbes, but I have to assume they are out there.

-jr


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnol...               05-Nov-99 06:11:14
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: WSeB Client sorta news

Message sender: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnoldvanovereem@iname.com

From: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnoldvanovereem@iname.com (Arnold van
Overeem)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:50:34, Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com> wrote:

> But I understood that such 'subsets' of WSeB are still going to cost US$1600
> each (less whatever quantity discounts or site-license discounts are
available).
>  
I'm not going to believe, if IBM would make a new client available as a 
service offering to large customers, they would charge a server license fee to
each client. I guess there would be a one off charge to configure the client 
which is high enough to discourage any would be user with less than say 500 
workstations, and a minimal nominal license (probalby just the Software Choice
program) for each distributed copy. In addition they would forbid to resell it
without bundled hardware.
> 

remove windows from your harddisk to reply
==========================================
Arnold van Overeem
==========================================
Let's make the difference/2

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From: rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de                      05-Nov-99 08:16:26
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: MS-CHAP support in Warp4

From: "Robert Lalla" <rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de>

On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 05:43:06 GMT, reedjd@bitsmart.com wrote:

>  I'm looking for how I can use the MS-CHAP protocol under OS/2 to
>connect to my companies LAN.  I haven't been able to find any on
>Hobbes, but I have to assume they are out there.

You might look at  IN-JOY.               http://www.fx.dk

--
RL


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From: greg_t@connect.net.au                             05-Nov-99 17:21:05
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: I've lost my Warp Bar :(

From: Greg Thomas <greg_t@connect.net.au>

After OS/2 Warp 4 got really bogged down and hadn't really responded in
about 45minutes I forced it to shutdown (might have had to revert to
power switch actually). It didn't like it. Went through the recovery ok,
but he start bar like thing down the bottom was gone.

How can I put it back?

Greg


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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi                             05-Nov-99 06:45:21
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: MS-CHAP support in Warp4

From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)

MS-CHAP is supported in InJoy's PPP implementation. See 
http://www.fx.dk/injoy

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 05:43:06, reedjd@bitsmart.com wrote:

>   I'm looking for how I can use the MS-CHAP protocol under OS/2 to
> connect to my companies LAN.  I haven't been able to find any on
> Hobbes, but I have to assume they are out there.

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From: andy@schiller.big.ac.at                           05-Nov-99 09:32:02
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 05:13:04
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at>

> I'll take the opportunity to thank you and the IBM team for
> communicator 4.61. I'm not completely happy with it (drag and drop
> still works better with 2.02, which is also more stable), but it's a
> big leap forward from 4.04 and caching works *much* better than in
> 2.02!:-)

The only stability problem I've got (up to now) is that the messenger crashes
every
first time I start it

greetings
                Andreas

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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  05-Nov-99 07:54:07
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 05:13:04
Subj: Re: MS-CHAP support in Warp4

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

In article <7vtqpa$1i6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  reedjd@bitsmart.com wrote:
>   I'm looking for how I can use the MS-CHAP protocol under OS/2 to
> connect to my companies LAN.  I haven't been able to find any on
> Hobbes, but I have to assume they are out there.

InJoy supports it (and does many more things):

ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/dialer/injoy2_3.zip

It is shareware, but it is worth the money for registering! You only
need the cheapest license (..I forgot about how it is called and how
much it costs..) for simply connecting a single user to the internet
with MS-CHAP.

Greetings,
Cornelis Bockemhl
cbockem@datacomm.ch

>
> -jr
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          05-Nov-99 18:13:28
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra Color 40

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:57:17 -0500, Harry Travis wrote:

:>In <jnlargxonggarwc.fkqgfl0.pminews@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp>, on 11/05/99 
:>   at 11:28 AM, "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> said:
:>
:>>Buddy or anyone else who knows,
:>
:>>Could you (pretty) please give me a link where I can get
:>>one of the aforementioned printers for $160. I did a search on Deja.com
:>>but the best I could find was $220.
:>
:>>Cheers
:>
:>>Wayne
:>
:>>******************************************************
:>>Wayne Bickell
:>>Tokyo, Japan
:>>wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
:>>******************************************************
:>>           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
:>>  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
:>>******************************************************
:>
:>There was another retailer selling @$180. But a good deal is probably
:>from one of two friends at Colorodo State, selling them on ebay.com.
:>Last sale was for $135 +$15 (stateside) shipping and handling. Both have
:>good ratings.
:>
:>The buysurplus.com price of $220 does include (stateside) shipping until
:>2000. -- 
:>-----------------------------------------------------------
:>htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
:>DemostiX
:>-----------------------------------------------------------
:>

Unfortunately, I'm in Tokyo and BuySurplus doesn't ship outside
the US :-(

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      05-Nov-99 10:28:05
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: Re: File size??

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Graham C. Norris [Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com] ->
comp.os.os2.misc:

 No, not JFS. JFS was not included with Warp Server Advanced SMP, only
 with WSeB (and AIX of course).

Sorry.

My fault (was only thinking about the latest, WSeB, OS/2 server version).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                05-Nov-99 10:01:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>

Thanks for your support Bjorn (sorry about the spelling, I don't have the
right keyboard nor ASCI
table handy) !

Would you be able to 'diagnose' OS/2 at boot-up, in order to analyse what is
going wrong between OS/2
and the BIOS ?
If you're up for it, you could even write a dummies guide to debugging at OS/2 
boot-time (beg !)
I just realized I should dig into the tracing utilities OS/2 offers, maybe
they can help.

Bjrn Vermo wrote:

> And, unfortunately, there are more than just two different ways to
> report installed RAM. I know of five or six in use even before the PCI bus
came along. And BIOS
> reporting is not the only issue - another problem is that some hardware will 
steal address ranges
> (memory holes) for its own use. In some cases, this is 'PnP'-automatic,
designed on the assumption
> that it is supposed to work under Windows. Paranoid people are free to
believe that it is
> deliberately rigged not to work with anything else, others will blame it on
ignorance.

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From: david.beck@dial.pipex.com                         05-Nov-99 11:49:09
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:19
Subj: Re: 2 Adaptec SCSI's compatible?

From: david.beck@dial.pipex.com

In <288_9911011810@m-net.axess.com>, August.Abolins@613-100.m-net.axess.com
(August Abolins) writes:
> >>> I was thinking of adding an Agfa SnapScan 1236s (SCSI) scanner to a
> >>> long-time old 486dx2-50 (32meg), Warp 3 redspine (no fixpaks) system. 
> >>> The PC already features a Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card which features
> >>> an Adaptec AHA-15xxSomething, which  controls the SCSI cdrom unit. 
> >>> The scanner comes along with a SCSI card.  It apparently is an
> >>> Adaptec AVA-1505...
>
> h> I must be missing something here . . . do they make scsi adapter cards 
> h> which will only accept one device ? One of the loveliest things about 
> h> SCSI is adding a whole bunch of devices to one card with one IRQ. Why
> h> would you want two cards for only two devices ? 
>
>The problem is that the EXISTING Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card only supports
ONE
>device (there's only one internal connector which currently goes to the
>internal cdrom).
>
>The Agfa scanner INCLUDES the AVA-1505 card.  I would assume that it may have
>limited multi-device support apart from supporting the one scanner device.
>
>If, after purchasing the scanner, the AVA-1505 can support other
SCSI-devices,
>then I would be very happy indeed.  I may even consider retiring the
>SoundBlaster 16 SCSI-2 card and just get another sound card.  Then I could
use
>the AVA-1505 for additional SCSI devices in the future?
>

I suspect that you will find that the 1505 has only an external connector,
while the SCSI port on the SB card is internal only. This reduces the cost
since the connectors are expensive. You can get internal to external adaptors
(just a ISA format card with both types of connector on it).

I have a 1502 (external MAC style 25 pin connector only) and a 2940 in the 
same machine and have no problems using both.

Dave Beck



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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      06-Nov-99 00:11:12
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:19
Subj: tcpip guru needed :)  - add SOCKS 5 support to OS/2

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

<long rant>

Well after a week of beating around the bush, I finally found out that OS/2's 
ADVANCED 32bit tcpip 4.1 stack is still at SOCKS 4 level and therefore does
not 
support udp packets through a socks 5 firewall.

This is a pity (for the moment).

It takes me 5 mins to download and setup a free socks5 client from 
http://www.hummingbird.com to socksify every windows application.

A bit more complicated with Linux.. but after editing some text config files, 
runsocks |application| allows you to use socks5 with almost any tcpip 
application too.

I was wondering if it was possible for somebody or a group of people with the 
knowledge to write something similar for OS/2? I think there is plenty of code 

out there for socks5 clients/servers.

eg. runsocks ftp

or something like the universal hummingbird client as a replacement for OS/2's 

socks4 support.

As there is not much demand for it (from the difficulty in getting responses
and
help).. I doubt this would happen.

Just wondering, why the universal network client would not support something
as 
commonplace as a socks5 client support?

Just a gripe.. since I've run into an OS/2 limitation (networking one at
that!) 
and I'm just frustrated. It's times like these I wish I could write code :( 

Does anybody know of an update to TCP/IP 4.1 by IBM to include socks5 support
in
the future?

Well maybe I'd be the only user out there wanting it.. but I'm willing to pay 
for it ($US 15-20).. 

Here's wishing for a solution in the future....

</long rant>

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____________________________________________________________________

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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         05-Nov-99 14:12:17
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

On 05 Nov 1999 05:26:37 GMT, fgearhart@voyager.net wrote:

:>Really?  I've been running OD1.5 since it came out, and kinda 
:>suspected it caused some instability, but was never certain.  
:>Especially since I couldn't directly attribute any 'hangs' to OD.  
:>Does it really cause instability problems?  Is it better in OD2.0?

Praise Stardock, it makes wonderful stable and fast products.
Blame the workplace shell for all the bugs. Use fixpack 12, generate new
*.ini files and you have a 96% stable operating system. 3% bugs are being
fixed in fixpack 13 and 0,9% in fixpack 14. So just wait for fixpack 15 and
you really have the best operating system for intel ever.

Ask IBM to make OS/2 linux compatible on source level and it will live for
ever and ever.

Arjen


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From: rl3s@netcom4.netcom.com                           05-Nov-99 14:17:25
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: need file decompress class for JDK 1.0.2 (OS/2)

From: Zeus Paleologos <rl3s@netcom4.netcom.com>

I know that several file decompress classes exist for JDK 1.1
but I thought I had seen some for JDK 1.0.  Does anyone know
where I can find such?

Thanks in advance.


ZP

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                05-Nov-99 11:12:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl> said:

> 3% bugs are being
>fixed in fixpack 13 and 0,9% in fixpack 14. So just wait for fixpack 15 

You left out the bugs yet to be introduced in 13 and 14.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                05-Nov-99 11:15:07
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Bucket full of errors all at once

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

I just had a disaster and haven't a clue what caused it.  I'd like to at least
learn something here.  If anybody has a clue, please tell me.

Late yesterday I cleaned a few files out of my ZIP archive.  I also moved some
into my "paid for" archive - both using one file management program.  A little
later I discovered that the moved files were not readable by UNZIP and the ZIP
test said they had no directories.

A little later when I was through cleaning house I backed up my INI files and
ran CHECKINI.  The INI files are on a different partition and different
physical
drive.  Later I discovered the new INI files were identical in size to the old
ones - even after deleting some working but unused programs.

I decided to reboot.  When it came up again I had no WarpCenter.  So I decided
to do a system archive restore from two days ago.  I keep my system archives
on
yet another partition.  It got to the point of saying "Restoring Key files"
and
just sat there for 20 minutes.

Next I powered off directly, forcing a CHKDSK on all partitions on reboot -
without archive restore.  Still no WarpCenter - no surprise.

I decided to see if I could get online.  I drug Injoy, MR2ICE and Netscape
onto
the WarpCenter.  I got online with both email and browser.  But I noticed that
the Injoy icon I had changed slightly had gone back to original.

I rebooted and went for the archive #2.  Again it sits there staring at me.  I
booted again without restore.  Same story as before - no WarpCenter, but my
desktop looks like something I've never seen before.

I tried booting to my last partition (J), a maintenance partition set up by
bootos2.  It fired up, but Solitaire, from my OS/2 boot drive and put there
for
experimental putposes, didn't work.

Once again I tried a system archive restore.  Still it sits there staring at
me,
with the hard drive making sounds like its in a loop - the same little
brip-brip
over and over.  Finally I walked away, leaving the computer running, and went
to
bed.  This morning the system is running placidly - with no WarpCenter, but
the
desktop looks normal.  OS2.INI is somewhat larger than it was.  Solitaire from
the OS/2 boot partition works fine.

I'm at a loss.  What could effect so many different things in at least four
different partitions and two different drives like that?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             05-Nov-99 08:52:06
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Bucket full of errors all at once

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> I just had a disaster and haven't a clue what caused it.  I'd like to at
least
> learn something here.  If anybody has a clue, please tell me.
> 
> Late yesterday I cleaned a few files out of my ZIP archive.  I also moved
some
> into my "paid for" archive - both using one file management program.  A
little
> later I discovered that the moved files were not readable by UNZIP and the
ZIP
> test said they had no directories.
> 
> A little later when I was through cleaning house I backed up my INI files
and
> ran CHECKINI.  The INI files are on a different partition and different
physical
> drive.  Later I discovered the new INI files were identical in size to the
old
> ones - even after deleting some working but unused programs.
> 
> I decided to reboot.  When it came up again I had no WarpCenter.  So I
decided
> to do a system archive restore from two days ago.  I keep my system archives 
on
> yet another partition.  It got to the point of saying "Restoring Key files"
and
> just sat there for 20 minutes.
> 
> Next I powered off directly, forcing a CHKDSK on all partitions on reboot -
> without archive restore.  Still no WarpCenter - no surprise.
> 
> I decided to see if I could get online.  I drug Injoy, MR2ICE and Netscape
onto
> the WarpCenter.  I got online with both email and browser.  But I noticed
that
> the Injoy icon I had changed slightly had gone back to original.
> 
> I rebooted and went for the archive #2.  Again it sits there staring at me.  
I
> booted again without restore.  Same story as before - no WarpCenter, but my
> desktop looks like something I've never seen before.
> 
> I tried booting to my last partition (J), a maintenance partition set up by
> bootos2.  It fired up, but Solitaire, from my OS/2 boot drive and put there
for
> experimental putposes, didn't work.
> 
> Once again I tried a system archive restore.  Still it sits there staring at 
me,
> with the hard drive making sounds like its in a loop - the same little
brip-brip
> over and over.  Finally I walked away, leaving the computer running, and
went to
> bed.  This morning the system is running placidly - with no WarpCenter, but
the
> desktop looks normal.  OS2.INI is somewhat larger than it was.  Solitaire
from
> the OS/2 boot partition works fine.
> 
> I'm at a loss.  What could effect so many different things in at least four
> different partitions and two different drives like that?
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


Sounds pretty weird.  Have you ruled out a hardware problem with your
disk controller?

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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               05-Nov-99 15:25:26
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Mikus Grinbergs wrote:

>
> But what if a that user has to deal with MULTIPLE national
> languages in quick succession, or even simultaneously?  If
> there is not a common character set between those languages
> then IMHO OS/2 'locale' concept becomes just another PITA.
>

Not if the software is correctly written. OS/2 has good i18n support, but most
programmers seem to neglect anything beyond their own immediate surroundings.

NC 4.6.1 has it working after a fashion, but is full of holes. Some not too
bright spammer on Taiwan has put me on his list. Even if the mail headers
correctly identify the contents as big-5, the stupid program tries to display
it
with the default codepage. Then I use "View / Character Set..." to switch, and 
it
displays (as far as I can tell, knowing only a handful of Chinese words)
correctly. This is not satisfactory, but it is useable. It also shows that the
underlying functionsin OS/2 work.

Now, if I want to write in some language not supported by my default (8859-1)
character set, we run into the area of poor support in OS/2. The keyboard
codepage cannot be switched on a per window basis, so support for writing in
different codepages takes quite a bit of extra work. In Communicator, this
effort
has clearly not been taken. It is possible to select a character set in the
composer window, but not even the ALT+(numeric code) method works correctly.

It should be rather obvious that you usually want to answer in the same
language
the sender has used. This is not some unusual special case - after all, the
majority of the world population has to use more than one language on a
frequent
basis. Assigning a default language to each entry in the address book ought to 
be
a self-evident need. Assigning a default language to national domains should
not
be  too far-fetched, either.


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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                05-Nov-99 15:30:03
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:01:12, alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca 
(Alex Taylor) wrote:

OTOH, even a cheap CD-RW drive is 3-4 times more expensive than a
plain CD-ROM drive (which can be had for as cheap as $50 or so).


Actually, I picked up two SCSI CD-RW drives (one Panasonic, 
one TEAC), for roughly US$ 100 apiece. Still more expensive 
- but only twice as expensive.  :-)




________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

To send email - remove the `yyy'
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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                05-Nov-99 15:30:01
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:01:25, ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk 
(Andrew Stephenson) wrote:

> That has not been my experience. Until I `attach' RSJ to the
> drive it can function as an ordinary drive - even with the
> RSJ driver loaded at bootup. Once attached, after you
> `finalize' and deattach (is that a word?), the drive goes
> back to functioning as an ordinary drive.

Then clearly I do not have my peripherals set up properly.  As I
also have a "real CD drive", I did not investigate the issue too
far.  During boot-up, the RSJ software identifies CD-RW and CD-RO
and tags them appropriately (the CD-RO as WORM, AFAIR).  Once the
system is running, I cannot find any icon for the CD-RW in folder
System|Drives until RSJ attaches the drive.  Nor can CLI commands
access it.  This pretty solidly prevents me using the CD-RW as a
fall-back CD-RO, unless I evict the RSJ driver from CONFIG.SYS, a
messy solution -- or did I miss some neat trick?  (Using v. 2.84)


Well, I'm going to have to backpedal a bit, I'm afraid - I 
spoke too hastily. After seeing what you wrote, above, I 
decided that I had better take another look.

What led me astray is the fact that I have two CD-ROM drives
- so what I was remebering had to do with the second drive 
that RSJ had nothing to do with. Sorry for the 
misinformation.

OTOH, unlike what you seem to be describing, after I attach 
the CD-RW drive (with RSJ) it does show up in the Drives 
folder and it functions just like a CD-RO as far seeing the 
info on CD-ROMs are concerned (and being able to copy from 
the CD to the HD, etc.).




________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

To send email - remove the `yyy'
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From: mmadden@wsnet.com                                 05-Nov-99 09:55:01
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: "Michael D. Madden" <mmadden@wsnet.com>

The CD-RW can be used as a standard Cd-ROM drive.

> From: possum@tree.branch (Mike Trettel)
> Organization: Twinco, Inc.
> Reply-To: Y'all have to fix this@nowhere
> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 15:27:17 GMT
> Subject: CD-RW as a plain CD only?
> 
> My 40x Toshiba cd-rom drive just went belly up on me, so I'm in the market
> for a new cd-rom drive. CD-RW units are getting quite reasonable in price,
> so I'm tempted to get one.  I know I can't burn any CD's without getting
> the RSJ cd/burning software package first, but could I use a CD-RW unit
> (either ATAPI or SCSI) as a plain cd-rom drive for the time being?  Anyone
> have any experience with this?
> 
> -- 
> ===========
> Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net
> 
> I don't buy from spammers.  No exceptions.  Fix the reply line to mail me.

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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               05-Nov-99 14:38:23
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> hamei@pacbell.net said:
>
> >two votes for syntax - *very* common word
>
> Yep.  Very frequently applied in programming.
>

Maybe we have on our hands the often belamented decline of education in
many Western countries during the last few decades. When I learned
programming language theory in the late sixties, syntax was certainly
not a new word to me. Nor was it used in an unusual way. The difference
between programming language and compiler theory on one side and
abstract linguistics on the other was not all that great. I even
discovered that a friend who studies comparative linguistics used some
of the same notation.

When people do not understand common and well established terms, there
are two possibilities. One is to go the tabloid way, using pree-school
language and avoiding complicated content. The other is to assume that
poorly educated is not the same as stupid, and write correctly but add a
reference to where  it is possible to learn more.

Paradoxically, it is often easier to explain things to very stupid or
even mentally retarded people. They are usually more willing to admit
there are things they do not know or understand without blaming the
problem on somebody else.


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               05-Nov-99 15:55:06
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: File size??

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

tom wrote:

> What is the largest single file size that OS/2 will address??

OS/2 itself is not really limited, but some ofthe file systems you can
use are. It is also very much a question of programmer convenience. A
programmer using the c compiler libraries without thinking, will usually
write programs which can deal with 2GB files. This is the file size
limit for FAT, and the limit of easily supported files on HPFS. With a
bit more effort, and using the native OS/2 APIs, it is possible to have
random access anywhere in a 4GB file. With a lot of extra effort, it is
possible to deal with 64GB files under HPFS. DB/2 goes far beyond those
limits, but then you have to load the file into the database. The JFS
file system is also very good for large files, but isonly available on
the server.

>
> In other words, say I want to have a single file of 1000meg
> will OS/2 be able to read it?

That is only half of the default file limit. It can even be doneunder
FAT (not that you ought to try).

>
> How much memory will it cache total?  If the motherboard
> can hold 2 gig of RAM, and the max amount is installed
> how much can the OS truly use?

OS/2 can use all of it. The limit is 4GB.

User applications are limited to a 512MB address space (the user arena)
because of backwards compatibility with 16-bit software. Some of this is
used by different kinds of overhead and shared memory, so the net
available is from 200 to 350MB.

Applications which do not use any 16-bit calls may use APIs on the
server to access high memory. The limit is set in config.sys. I do not
know how to estimate the needs of the system arena, but there will
obviously be a give and take between application performance and total
system performance.


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               05-Nov-99 16:00:15
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: File size??

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

tom wrote:

>
> A Terrabyte as a single file?

No, only two Terabytes (Terra is the Earth).
DB/2 can of course do much better than that...


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               05-Nov-99 16:55:11
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: 2 Adaptec SCSI's compatible?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

John Thompson wrote:

>
> But that should only be an issue if you're using the
> scanner/tape/whatever as heavily as you use your HD.  I suspect
> most people scan a few things a day, and maybe take a backup once
> a day (probably in the middle of the night, at that) and so the
> bus-contention shouldn't be much of an issue.
>

When you do a backup to a streaming tape device, it is very useful to get the
data at fast as
the tape drive is writing them. If you want to back up large drives, 10MB/s
means 1min 40s
per gigabyte theoretical maximum transfer on the SCSI bus. Protocol overhead
will take a
significant chunk out of this. When the same amount of datahas to be
transferred from a disk
on the same bus to the buffers of the backup program before itis written to
the tape, you
will get long gaps on the tape whenever it does not arrive in time. You may
even get timeouts
which cause the tape to breakoffthe streaming operation and reposition. This
will cause both
a very significant reduction in effective tape capacity and orders of
magnitude slower
backup.

When you scan high-resolution deep-colour images, delays in data transmission
may even impair
the quality of the scanned image. Even expensive scanners will not move
exactly the same way
when they stop and start again as when the scan can proceed in one motion. It
is not
unthinkable that the system may need to do some paging during the scan of
a16MB image, and
this can cause unfortunate delays if the swapdisk is on the same SCSI chain.


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From: RTennis@swri.org                                  05-Nov-99 10:19:21
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Printing Problem

From: Richard Tennis <RTennis@swri.org>

I will check this weekend.

Ted Miller wrote:

> In message <3821F037.4F076597@swri.org> - Richard Tennis <RTennis@swri.org>
> writes:
> :>
> :>Ted,
> :>
> :>Thank you for your response.  I read the messages pertaining to your
> :>struggle with printing.  I did check the port settings as you suggested
> :>but I dont think that was the problem.  I have another clue - if I try
> :>to print to a file I have the same problems, so this does not seem to
> :>be port related.  I am not sure where to go next . . .
> :>
> :>Richard.
> :>
>
> Hello Richard
>
> This is a long shot. Right click on your printer object and move your mouse
to
> the <set default> choice in the menu. Is there two choices for the optra one
> of them having the letters PQ in the name? If so then your installation did
> not go smoothly and I would suggest you delete everything to do with the
> printer installation and try a re-install.
>
> Ted Miller
> ecmille@ibm.net

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          05-Nov-99 16:43:29
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: CD-RW as a plain CD only?

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <M3mPvLdzxX1t-pn2-kdOq0GOndgVJ@localhost>
	   rjf@yyycomasia.com "rj friedman" writes:

> Well, I'm going to have to backpedal a bit, I'm afraid - I
> spoke too hastily. After seeing what you wrote, above [[snipped
> quote of earlier AMS post]], I decided that I had better take
> another look.
>
> What led me astray is the fact that I have two CD-ROM drives
> - so what I was remebering had to do with the second drive
> that RSJ had nothing to do with. Sorry for the misinformation.
>
> OTOH, unlike what you seem to be describing, after I attach
> the CD-RW drive (with RSJ) it does show up in the Drives
> folder and it functions just like a CD-RO as far seeing the
> info on CD-ROMs are concerned (and being able to copy from
> the CD to the HD, etc.).

Well, don't apologise too readily. <g>  After today's restart, I
find the CD-RW drive shows up in the System|Drives folder, acts
as a CD-RO in the usual way and is accessible via RSJ's CD-VIEW.
(As you describe, above.)  I have not yet had an opportunity to
check if it still works as a CD-RW, though.  I think I'll leave
it like this a while and see what happens.  Thanks again.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             05-Nov-99 08:55:15
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: I've lost my Warp Bar :(

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


Greg Thomas wrote:
> 
> After OS/2 Warp 4 got really bogged down and hadn't really responded in
> about 45minutes I forced it to shutdown (might have had to revert to
> power switch actually). It didn't like it. Went through the recovery ok,
> but he start bar like thing down the bottom was gone.
> 
> How can I put it back?

Find the "toolbar" icon and put it into your "startup" folder that is
inside the "OS/2 System" folder.  

> 
> Greg

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          05-Nov-99 17:09:01
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <3822DDE4.1914828B@powertech.no>
	   bv@bigblue.no "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo" writes:
>
> lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
>
> > hamei@pacbell.net said:
> >
> > >two votes for syntax - *very* common word
> >
> > Yep.  Very frequently applied in programming.
>
> Maybe we have on our hands the often belamented decline of
> education in many Western countries during the last few
> decades. [...]

I agree entirely with your general sentiments.  Early on, I noted
that this squabble over "syntax" was going on, could not believe
the participants were seriously at odds with each other, so began
to skip over, or at least skim, the thread.

One concludes it must have been one of those "slow news weeks" in
several households, or at least the tail end of the Silly Season.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 05-Nov-99 09:23:24
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: Need help with Ultimail on OS/2 WSeB

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <rkZI4kW2vfqA092yn@daina.bga.com>, mikus@bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs) writes:
>>
>> however, IBM and her henchmen (poetic license, not meant seriously)
>> ASSURE me that locale-aware apps opened from the correct codepage
>> with a Unicode font installed will correctly display the national language.
>
>*IF* all the user's correspondence is in ONE national language,
>code pages and locale-aware apps manage to get the job done.
>
>But what if a that user has to deal with MULTIPLE national
>languages in quick succession, or even simultaneously?  If
>there is not a common character set between those languages
>then IMHO OS/2 'locale' concept becomes just another PITA.
>
>mikus
>

since it is only possible to even HAVE two codepages on a system
your complaint isn't the half of it . . IBM's national language support 
is a joke to anyone who has actually tried to use it, though it does 
manage to look impressive loading hundreds of files onto the hard 
disk . . so i am going to officially hand the baton over to you. I have 
bitched, whined, moaned, snivelled for hundreds of lines about
this situation, to no avail. Even writers of esteemed OS/2 software 
don't really give a damn if their apps are functional in the 
locale-aware abortion-set codepage system. Apparently this global
e-business economy is more hot air than reality, as it is difficult
to believe many people would put up with this gruesome situation.

good luck mikus, and if you ever need any backup testimony from 
one who's actually tried to USE multiple languages instead of talking
about it, feel free.


--
hrad ngravvd

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From: dtander@agts.net                                  05-Nov-99 18:02:07
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: OS2Ezine

From: dtander@agts.net (David T. Anderson)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:30:14, Martin Nisshagen 
<forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se> wrote:

> Tony Eamick [Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
> 
>  Has OS2Ezine closed up or changed url's ? I have been checking there for
> 
> Not at all. They have redesigned the site and now they work on a new
> publishing system for it (to be able to manage it more effectively).

Yes, but it's sure a long time since any news about this has come down
the pike.  WarpCast is still in operation, so I guess they're still 
there, but in these uncertain times for OS/2 [even MORE uncertain], it
would be nice to get some reassurance....

David T. Anderson
Calgary, Alberta
http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/

Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp

**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      05-Nov-99 18:48:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: File size??

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Bjrn Vermo [Norbionics] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 > A Terrabyte as a single file?
 
 No, only two Terabytes (Terra is the Earth).

Oops... (*looking embarrassed*) - my slip-up! :)

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                05-Nov-99 14:22:00
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: Bucket full of errors all at once

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> said:

>Sounds pretty weird.  Have you ruled out a hardware problem with your disk
>controller?

No.  But it seems to be going OK now.  I say "*seems*".  It is really weird.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: christoph.huber@rzb-wien.raiffei...               05-Nov-99 19:34:23
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: I've lost my Warp Bar :(

Message sender: christoph.huber@rzb-wien.raiffeisen.at

From: Christoph Huber <christoph.huber@rzb-wien.raiffeisen.at>

Add WarpCenter to the AUTOSTARTLIST in the Config.sys

ie SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,WARPCENTER

Greg Thomas wrote:

> After OS/2 Warp 4 got really bogged down and hadn't really responded in
> about 45minutes I forced it to shutdown (might have had to revert to
> power switch actually). It didn't like it. Went through the recovery ok,
> but he start bar like thing down the bottom was gone.
>
> How can I put it back?
>
> Greg

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                05-Nov-99 14:30:08
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: Bootos2 options

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson) said:

>that this squabble over "syntax" was going on, could not believe
>the participants were seriously at odds with each other,

While the definition and use of the word "syntax" may have been at the root of
my own difficulties, the general "condition" of the documentation was what I -
and several others - complained about.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          05-Nov-99 20:36:28
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: Copying files from HPFS to Win98.

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:49:21, "Paul Goddard" <pcgodda@freeuk.com> a crit 
dans un message:

> Is there any way I can copy files from an HPFS partition to Win98 (FAT16) so
> that the longnames are prserved?  I am using Warp 3 and am reluctant to
> apply any fixpacks owing to bad experiences in the past.

Use Infozip's ZIP and UnZIP (and WinZip, for Win98) to package the files in
OS/2, then unpackage them into the files structure on Win98. You can 
repackage them with WinZip to bring the long filenames back to OS/2.

However, I've just been doing a lot of work that requires some Win98 tools,
on long file name files, and have just discovered that Henk Kelder's last 
FAT32.IFS drivers do a great job of making FAT32 partition files visible 
for both read/write under OS/2. You can make a small extended partition, 
convert it to FAT32, and once Henk's drivers are loaded you can do all the 
ordinary drag/drop or other procedures on these files without any problem. 
This is a lot quicker than doing the zip/unzip stuff on each side.

I've just run about 15,000 files back and forth in multiple steps and not 
only did all the data transfer perfectly, but it didn't slow my system down
the way the earlier builds of FAT32.IFS did.


--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               05-Nov-99 21:44:13
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 19:55:04
Subj: Re: New OS/2 device driver development

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Wim Wauters wrote:

>
> Would you be able to 'diagnose' OS/2 at boot-up, in order to analyse what is 
going wrong between OS/2
> and the BIOS ?
>

I'm sorry, but I am far from up to date on modern BIOS versions. I am sure
somebody else would be able to
do it much faster. I have not looked into this after IBM fixed most of the
recognition problems in Warp
3, I just recognize a set of symptoms. Pinpointing the problem is a way bigger 
task.

> If you're up for it, you could even write a dummies guide to debugging at
OS/2 boot-time (beg !)
> I just realized I should dig into the tracing utilities OS/2 offers, maybe
they can help.

I would love to, but there is this thing called work. It is supposed to help
me put the caviar on the
table, and hopefully help secure a better alternative to Netscape for you. It
will only take some 110% of
my time, of course, but  there are many who are better qualified to explain
the boot process. For
instance those who have actually worked on the code...

I have a hunch IBM are going to do what it takes to improve the memory
detection if the problem is not
caused by an outright bug in the BIOS in question. Since they are not in on
the Intel/HP Merced project,
they may be interested in a successful alternative supplier of PC-type CPUs.

It is always risky to go for something quite new. There is an increased risk
of pitfalls, and it usually
takes some timeuntil the wrinkles are ironed out.

By the way, EPM has a quick guide to the base character set under Help / Quick 
reference, at the bottom.
I always use it when I have forgotten  or  or even .


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From: thomasa@swu.ac.th                                 05-Nov-99 21:36:22
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 19:55:04
Subj: Re: Question about IP numbers

From: thomasa@swu.ac.th

You can also find a web site's IP number by pinging it.

In <3820b64c$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes:
>peter volsted <pvolsted@image.dk> said:
>
>>Yes, it's part of Warp4, and you'll also get the helpresponse entering:
>>nslookup -?
>
>Oh.  Great.  I thought someone had said to find it "out there."
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>

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From: chayes@erols.com                                  05-Nov-99 22:12:25
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 19:55:04
Subj: Cable connection to MediaOne RoadRunner

From: chayes@erols.com (Carl S. Hayes)

Trying to get information/experiences with the installation and
use of MediaOne RoadRunner cable Internet service.

They have recently, in the Richmond, VA area, started selling the
service and I would like to 'get connected'.  For the most part I can
not find ANYONE at MediaOne who ever knows what OS/2, let alone
Warp4 is . . .

I finaly got a guy in Florida that is checking into it for me, and while
he claims that is on the list of OSs that will operate on RoadRunner,
it in all likelyhood is not supported.  I am not really sure ANYONE
in the greater Richmond, VA MediaOne staff, knows what OS/2 is!

South of Richmond they have @Home and I know a person or two
that is using it, but until AT&T combines the two companies, I'm
hoping that someone out there might point me in the right direction.

Thanking you in advance for any assistance/information you might
provide!

Carl


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From: abuse@orac.clara.co.uk                            06-Nov-99 00:04:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: Using a networked HP LJ3100 ?

From: abuse@orac.clara.co.uk (Paul Ratcliffe)

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:09:14 GMT, Michael Taylor <miket@interact.net.au>
wrote:

>However the LJ 3100 is some sort of WinPrinter and doesn't seem to work with
>anything other than the Win NT workstations and even then only with Win Apps.
>DOS Apps cannot print to it even under NT.

Sounds like you've got what used to be called (any maybe still is, I don't
follow this Win garbage) a GDI printer. The only way you are going to get
anything out of it is by printing using the GDI interface - in other words a 
Windows app.

>I expected to be able to send something to it from OS/2 by printing to the
share but
>this didn't even register on the NT Server - it appeared to print NOTHING. 
>No lights flickered and the printer object on Nt showed NOTHING in the print
queue.

The lack of output from DOS apps. on the NT box means nothing is ever going to
work from anything but Windows.
I'd suggest you junk it and get a proper printer (although I guess from your
message that you had nothing to do with its purchase and installation).

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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            05-Nov-99 17:12:12
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: Lexmark Optra Color 40

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

In addition, the one I got through buysurplus.com shipped directly from
Lexmark.

Harry Travis wrote:
> 
> In <jnlargxonggarwc.fkqgfl0.pminews@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp>, on 11/05/99
>    at 11:28 AM, "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> said:
> 
> >Buddy or anyone else who knows,
> 
> >Could you (pretty) please give me a link where I can get
> >one of the aforementioned printers for $160. I did a search on Deja.com
> >but the best I could find was $220.
> 
> >Cheers
> 
> >Wayne
> 
> >******************************************************
> >Wayne Bickell
> >Tokyo, Japan
> >wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
> >******************************************************
> >           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
> >  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
> >******************************************************
> 
> There was another retailer selling @$180. But a good deal is probably
> from one of two friends at Colorodo State, selling them on ebay.com.
> Last sale was for $135 +$15 (stateside) shipping and handling. Both have
> good ratings.
> 
> The buysurplus.com price of $220 does include (stateside) shipping until
> 2000. --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
> DemostiX
> -----------------------------------------------------------

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: nate@lcs.mit.edu                                  06-Nov-99 00:45:06
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: Cable connection to MediaOne RoadRunner

From: nate@lcs.mit.edu (Nathan Liskov)

typically they will only install on a system runing win95/98 or nt.  
put win95 on your system in partition C if it is not there, have 
mediaone install the cable and get it working.  Then after they leave 
boot up os/2 and configure it yourself.  There is some guidance on how
to do this on my web site at http://nateliskov.ne.mediaone.net

	good luck,

		nate liskov

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:12:50, chayes@erols.com (Carl S. Hayes) wrote:

> Trying to get information/experiences with the installation and
> use of MediaOne RoadRunner cable Internet service.
> 
> They have recently, in the Richmond, VA area, started selling the
> service and I would like to 'get connected'.  For the most part I can
> not find ANYONE at MediaOne who ever knows what OS/2, let alone
> Warp4 is . . .
> 
> I finaly got a guy in Florida that is checking into it for me, and while
> he claims that is on the list of OSs that will operate on RoadRunner,
> it in all likelyhood is not supported.  I am not really sure ANYONE
> in the greater Richmond, VA MediaOne staff, knows what OS/2 is!
> 
> South of Richmond they have @Home and I know a person or two
> that is using it, but until AT&T combines the two companies, I'm
> hoping that someone out there might point me in the right direction.
> 
> Thanking you in advance for any assistance/information you might
> provide!
> 
> Carl
> 
> 

nate@lcs.mit.edu   http://nateliskov.ne.mediaone.net

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From: mwalsh1@elp.rr.com                                05-Nov-99 17:52:23
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Success IBM 240 video driver

From: "Matt Walsh" <mwalsh1@elp.rr.com>

I was able to get full install and beautifullllll 800x600 on my IBM 240 with
the Neomagic driver for the Thinkpad 600e.   Thank you to one and all who made
suggestions.  We are a Borg in a friendly way I guess.

Matt W.

Matt Walsh  El Paso, TX
Computin' & Shootin' in the dust.


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