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From: donm@ftel.net                                     30-Oct-99 00:05:12
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: VPN solutions for OS/2

From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse)

In message <3815E4E9.DC807C48@mirapoint.com> - Paul Dhuse
<pdhuse@mirapoint.com> writes:
:>
:>Does anyone know of any VPN solutions for OS/2?  I'd like to try to
:>connect to work from home and I don't want to have to install Windows to
:>do so.
:>
:>Thanks
:>-- 
:>Paul R. Dhuse
:>Mirapoint, Inc.
:>(408) 517-1383


check hobbes for a package called serverconfig...  it will configure
VPN's for OS/2's TCP/IP...  the catch is, only for TCP/IP versions
4.1 and up....

PS: there's a built in firewall in that version also..

what I don't know is if the VPN in 4.1 will connect to a windows or Linux
VPN...  any suggestions...



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From: foepcw@forno.eg.net                               30-Oct-99 01:48:06
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: New Search Engine  6021

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From: rjfreem@attglobal.net                             29-Oct-99 13:45:06
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: Using a Network

From: rjfreem@attglobal.net

I am gratefully implementing the three respondants suggestions.


In <gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.fkdf822.pminews@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, on
10/29/99 
   at 11:33 AM, "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> said:

>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:10:24 -0700, rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:

>>I know absolutely nothing about a peer network, and I have used Judy's
>>recipe to install and configure what I now have. I am at the point where
>>computer A can ping computer B, and B can ping A successfully. From this,
>>I assume that the network is properly configured. I hope. Computer A named
>>OS2 is as follows;
>>Connections>Computer name OS2 primary domain name RJF
>>Connections>Tab Shares 
>>    Share name   Resource   Type        Auto-share  Status
>>    INET             k:\inet      directory     yes             started
>>Connections>Tab Connections
>>    Device        Remote name              Auto-connect  Status
>>    N:                  \\OS2\INET                  yes             active
>>Computer B named MULTI
>>Connections>Computer name MULTI  primary domain name RJF
>>Connections>tab Shares
>>    Share name    Resource      Type     Auto-share     Status
>>    NET               D:\NET       directory        yes         started
>>Connection>tab Connections
>>    Device         Remote name              Auto-connect  Status
>>    K:                  \\MULTI\net                     yes         active
>>I no idea if the above is correct. On computer  A (OS2) resides K:\inet
>>and on computer B (MULTI) resides d:\NET. It is these directories with
>>which I wish to exchange files. I have no idea of how to access these
>>directories. Help is appreciated.

>Well, pinging is a TCP/IP function.  Up there, you have NetBIOS info.

>Nevertheless, if you have a functional TCP/IP connection, the odds are
>pretty good that the NetBIOS connection also works.

>Going from the above, it looks like you have your shares configured
>correctly, but you've got your connections pointing to the shares on the
>same machines.

>You want the opposite.  The first connection, for example, should be
>drive N: pointing to \\MULTI\NET.  After that, you can use any normal
>file manipulation program to copy/move/delete/whatever files on drive N:,
>which will actually be files in directory D:\NET on the MULTI machine. 
>Provided, of course, you have your user access set up correctly.



> - Mike

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From: t_am@gmx.de                                       29-Oct-99 23:16:11
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 05:17:14
Subj: Re: NT logon to OS/2 warp server

From: t_am@gmx.de (Timo Maier)

Hi James Moe!

>Note that the "primary client logon" and the "coordinated client" are
>the same package. Install the coordinate option.
What's the difference?

TAM
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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  26-Oct-99 20:28:19
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 10:28:11
Subj: Re: Consistent DOSCALL1.DLL Crashes

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

Magnus Olsson wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I'm facing a very difficult problem. As you can see i have to use the BeOS
to
> post this cry for help. Whenever I try to dial the internet i get a crashed
> dialer due to an access violation as follows:
>
> 10-24-1999  12:27:23  SYS3175  PID 0027  TID 0002  Slot 0045
> E:\TCPIP\BIN\SLIPPM.EXE
> c0000005
> 1bf91d36
> P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
> EAX=00c1ec40  EBX=00001000  ECX=00000000  EDX=00c30000
> ESI=00c30000  EDI=0000000d
> DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
> ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
> FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
> CS:EIP=005b:1bf91d36  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> SS:ESP=0053:00c1ec24  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
> EBP=00c1ec44  FLG=00002206
>
> DOSCALL1.DLL 0002:00001d36
>
> The same happens with the IBM internet dialer, Communicator, Navigator and
> ProNews too...
>
> I've had some "odd" problems with fp12, so i tried to backout to fp8, but no
> luck:-(
>
> I use the internet a lot, and recently i've used it daily for international
> communication with my girl-friend, so I'm in deep deep trouble!!! Please
help
> me if you can I'll be eternally grateful (no exaggeration!)

It might be usefull detailing the size/date of DOSCALL1.DLL so others can
compare
with FP12 version as well as confirming that there is no duplicate DLL on path
(including the possibility of a Process Commander version<g>).

(...and if communication difficulties are still hindering your international
relationship with a young lady you'll no doubt get many offers to undertake
that
delicate operation instead<g>)

> --
> Using the BeOS makes you appreciate OS/2 even more:-)



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"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"




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From: abuse@orac.clara.co.uk                            30-Oct-99 10:28:02
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: How to run 2 Netscapes using 2 LAN cards?

From: abuse@orac.clara.co.uk (Paul Ratcliffe)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:33:15 -0400, Lee, Wing (EXCHANGE:CAR:9K93)
<wingl@americasm01.nt.com> wrote:

>Anyone knows what is the command to run netscape so that one of them
>access interface lan0 and the other netscape access interface lan1?

Netscape knows nothing about interfaces - it just talks TCP/IP.
The TCP/IP stack will route traffic to an interface based on the routing that
is configured.

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From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu                          30-Oct-99 12:27:20
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:17
Subj: Re: NE2000 driver for OS/2 2.0

From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen)

OS/2 2.0? Pitch it. Actually it doesn't come with ANY networking 
components, not just the drivers. Most currently available drivers 
are designed to work only with 2.1 (the first truly stable 32-bit 
release of OS/2 in late '92) and later.

The addon products to purchase to network 2.0 are long out of 
production. You may find an ancient copy of Lantastic or IBM 
tcpip 2.0 to purchase at an online auction house or somewhere 
that *MAY* be compatible with 2.0. Otherwise, if a friend who 
runs NT Server is willing to make a set of NT Workstation
 network install diskettes for M$ Lanmanager for OS/2, using 
NT's Client Manager for NT server, you may be able to hack the 
networking components from these diskettes to give you a degree 
of character-mode tcpip and netbui capability under 2.0

Otherwise, haunt a few online auction houses like ebay, where it 
is possible to purchase OS/2 Warp 3 Connect or above for around 
$20. *THIS* version will make your initial OS/2 experiences much 
more productive. It can be networked easily, includes all networking 
tools, and, best of all, when properly fixpacked it won't burst 
into flames right in the box when Y2K strikes.

Cheers,

--Kevin  



On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:59:41 +1300, Cameron Kerr <ckerr@dcc.govt.nz> wrote:
>Hi, I just got given a copy of OS/2 2.0 to play with, and try and get
>networked, from my bosses. However, it comes with no network drivers.
>
>Does anyone know where I can find find a driver, or has anyone got one
>themselves.
>
>Would a Warp driver be compatible, do you think (I'm guesssing not, but I'm
>a newbie to OS/2)
>
>Thanks
>ken_the_cockroach@yahoo.com
>
>
>

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      30-Oct-99 16:42:14
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Mike Ruskai [TLF] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ Does NT even support IP masquerading, with or without a 3rd party program?

WinNT4, nope.

Win2K, yes.

For WinNT4 you can get one of the many third party software (for example like
http://www.winroute.com). 

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 18:41:08
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>

Hello,
    My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
both.
    I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
programs or drivers, done no system updates.
    If I use C-A-D, no problem. 


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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 18:53:19
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


James Moe wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>     My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
> shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
> immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
> want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
> INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
> both.
>     I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
> programs or drivers, done no system updates.
>     If I use C-A-D, no problem.
> 
    I neglected to provide some system information:
warp 4 fp 10
tcpip v4.1 w/updates
peer ip8424
128 MB ram


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           30-Oct-99 19:23:25
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:41:17, James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>     My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
> shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
> immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
> want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
> INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
> both.
>     I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
> programs or drivers, done no system updates.
>     If I use C-A-D, no problem. 
> 

There is a APAR on this problem in the IBM APAR database.

The fix for it has been included in one of the MPTS fixpacks 
but I don't remember which one. If you running the original
MPTS distributed wiith Warp 4 (assuning that's the OS version)
you could apply WR8423 and WR8424 and it will likely cure the
problem.

Lorne Sunley

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           30-Oct-99 19:38:12
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:53:39, James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> James Moe wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> >     My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
> > shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
> > immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
> > want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
> > INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
> > both.
> >     I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
> > programs or drivers, done no system updates.
> >     If I use C-A-D, no problem.
> > 
>     I neglected to provide some system information:
> warp 4 fp 10
> tcpip v4.1 w/updates
> peer ip8424
> 128 MB ram
> 

The ip8424 is not a peer fixpack, those are only up to
IP8412. WR8424 is an MPTS fixpack and it should not be
used with TCP/IP 4.1. It is an update of the Version 4
TCP/IP stack.

The latest TCP/IP 4.1 stack is in the WR86XX series.

If you have TCP/IP 4.1 you should apply WR8610 for MPTS
and WR8620 (this requires the WR8610 MPTS refresh).

Lorne Sunley

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 18:49:23
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: NT logon to OS/2 warp server

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Timo Maier wrote:
> 
> >Note that the "primary client logon" and the "coordinated client" are
> >the same package. Install the coordinate option.
> What's the difference?
> 
    From the Software Choice site:
Primary:
    product enables Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 clients to utilize Warp
Server and DCE Cells for logon and resource access. 

Coordinated:
    product enables Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 clients to utilize Warp
Server (and other SMB servers) as a Network Provider for resource
access. 

    To be honest I am clear what the differences are. I *do* know that
Coordinated works, Primary did not.

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From: christoph.huber@rzb-wien.raiffei...               30-Oct-99 21:39:23
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: ATM Network Cards

Message sender: christoph.huber@rzb-wien.raiffeisen.at

From: Christoph Huber <christoph.huber@rzb-wien.raiffeisen.at>

thanks for the update.
have you tried the Olicom Rapidfire 616x/615x. They offer OS/2 drivers. The
616x will not work with PCI2.0 but the 615x should do. I have tested the 616x
card on Netfinity xxxx M10 with Warp Server V4 SMP (TCPIP 4.1 and latest
Fixes) and Warp Server 4 eB and have not seen any problems. I guess it is
worth taking at them.

I haven't seen any OS/2 support for ATM Cards at Madges Homepage. Could you
tell me the complete product name.

Btw. we are going to use ATM because of recommendations from IBM - strange.

Kind rgrds/mfG

Netzwerk wrote:

> Christoph Huber schrieb:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > has anybody experiences with ATM Network card.
> > I am seaching some fibreoptic 155 or 622 Mbs Cards with OS/2 (WS SMP and
> > WSeB) support.
>
> At the moment I recommend, not to use an ATM card
>
> We are using Madge ATM cards and have a lot of problems with the new
> MPTS version WRG8610.
> The cards are running only with MPTS8423 and according to IBM they will
> not support ATM
> (If we want ATM  support, we should make a request to IBM)
>
> With MPTS8610 the server traps at startup or shortly later. With 8610 we
> have one or two times
> a week a trap. (Now we are replacing the ATM cards with two token ring
> cards and start trying samba
> on an AIX server)
>
> mfg Stefan Hoenes

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From: whonea@codenet.net                                30-Oct-99 16:39:17
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:53:39, James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> James Moe wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> >     My system has suddenly developed a most unfortunate trap during
> > shutdown. If I select Shutdown from the Desktop menu, I get an almost
> > immediate register dump indicating a trap (trap 000d, I think; didn't
> > want to try it again) in IFNET$. IFNET$ is in SOCKETS.SYS along with
> > INET$. I believe those are drivers for either Peer network or tcpip, or
> > both.
> >     I do not have a clue what has changed. I have not added any new
> > programs or drivers, done no system updates.
> >     If I use C-A-D, no problem.
> > 
>     I neglected to provide some system information:
> warp 4 fp 10
> tcpip v4.1 w/updates
> peer ip8424
> 128 MB ram

I think you may have back-leveled tcp/ip.  Latest PEER update is 
ip08412, the only xx08424 I know of is an MPTS (including tcp/ip 4.x) 
fix.  That would explain the IFNET crashes to a T.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              30-Oct-99 23:29:01
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Trap in SOCKETS.SYS

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> 
> The ip8424 is not a peer fixpack, those are only up to
> IP8412. WR8424 is an MPTS fixpack and it should not be
> used with TCP/IP 4.1. It is an update of the Version 4
> TCP/IP stack.
> 
> The latest TCP/IP 4.1 stack is in the WR86XX series.
> 
> If you have TCP/IP 4.1 you should apply WR8610 for MPTS
> and WR8620 (this requires the WR8610 MPTS refresh).
> 

    Yes, I incorrectly gave the IP update number: it should be ip08410.
I have been running with this update as well as wr08610 (MPTS) and tcpip
v4.1 (latest) for several weeks now. The Peer update was the most recent
of several weeks ago. MPTS was updated months ago, as was tcpip.
    The trap I am getting started yesterday. I have not updated
anything, I have not installed anything, I have not removed anything. I
cannot recall any change to the system in the last week.


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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                29-Oct-99 11:22:28
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:15:51 GMT, Mark Mellin wrote:

>To preface: I know only enough to be dangerous !!
>
>I'm looking to set up my Warp4 client with TCPIP 4.1
>as a "gateway" on a "cable modem'd" home lan.
>
>I wish to have access to printer resources, file
>systems, as well as sharing internet access between
>across OS/2, NT, and Win-9X.
>
>1) Do I *need* PEER ??  (I've already tried
>   installing Peer from the Warp4 CD, and the
>   installs craps out with "processing locked
>   files - insufficient HDD space. - the HDD
>   boot partition has about 700Mb free...)
>   
>   I don't want Peer, I don't like IBM's clunky
>   slapped-together utility approach to product
>   integration - hell -it's a batch file away
>   from the DOS based utility installs....

What you need for printers and file resources is NetBIOS.  

Can't say I know what you're talking about with "DOS based utility
installs".

>2) Can I use -or- do I *need* SafeFire or Injoy
>   Firewall to accomplish/meet my networks
>   objectives ??

You don't need either, but you get the most functionality going that route
(IP masquerading).  

Other alternatives include blind proxy programs (IGate), and SOCKS servers
(such as NEC's SOCKS5 server).

I used NEC's SOCKS5 server for a long time with my (now gone) cable modem,
then, when the InJoy Firewall product was released (I was told it was in
the making previously, and was waiting for a few months), I started using
that.  Faster, less CPU usage (on the server), more functionality.

>3) Are there any traps or pitfalls I should be
>   aware of ??

There are always traps and pitfalls in anything.  Without knowing your
level of experience, it's impossible to say which ones you might fall
into.

There's nothing obvious.

>4) Other than the obvious, is there any reason
>   I'd be better off using OS/2 Warp over NT
>   Workstation or Server as a gateway??

Does NT even support IP masquerading, with or without a 3rd party program?

>5) Why the heck couldn't I find any documentation
>   on the above :)

Because documentation of that scope would be too cumbersome.

The information is out there, in pieces, for the dedicated searcher to
find.



 - Mike

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From: wingl@americasm01.nt.com                          29-Oct-99 10:33:07
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: How to run 2 Netscapes using 2 LAN cards?

From: "Lee, Wing (EXCHANGE:CAR:9K93)" <wingl@americasm01.nt.com>

Anyone knows what is the command to run netscape so that one of them
access interface lan0 and the other netscape access interface lan1?

Thanks.

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From: ows@netcom.ca                                     29-Oct-99 14:52:23
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: ThinkPad 600E & 3Com 3C589 PCMCIA  *PROBLEMS*

From: ows@netcom.ca (Orest Skrypuch)

Hello Meinolf,

You were on the right track, sort of.

I discovered the problem at 6:20pm on Thurs and jumped up yelling 
eureka! <g> I WAS clothed unlike Arcimedes.

The problem is that virtually all of the IRQs are by default assigned,
RMview DOES NOT recognize this, and misled me.

I discovered it when I loaded the IBM thinkpad utilites program, it 
told me so when I tried changing the PCMCIA settings. I hadn't loaded 
the utilities program before because it is just a little too big to 
transfer by floppy - and I was waiting to get the network interface 
working!

Kind of a Catch /22, a bit of Irony. So it is all fixed up.

Thanks for the reply.


On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:58:43, Meinolf Sondermann <merlins@ibm.net> 
wrote:

> ust a guess:
> If you're using it in a docking station, give it at first a try 
> without the dock, or at least use the slots in the thinkpad itself
> and not the dock's ones.
>  
> Why ?
> Well, there is a known problem with 3com PCI networks cards and the
> TP 600E in a dock, where the 3com driver can access 8 PCI busses
> numberd 0 to 7, The 600E ( and just this machine ) assigns the number
> 8 to the bus in the dock. Maybe PCMCIA is a similar case.
> 

* Orest

          ~~~
ows |at| netcom |dot| ca

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From: leea@psynet.net                                   29-Oct-99 08:15:13
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: Login to NT domain

From: Lee Aroner  <leea@psynet.net>

You can't do it.

Windows and OS/2 REQUIRE netbios as the transport for the 
Server Message Block Protocol that transfers information back 
and forth about resource sharing.

What you can do is add NetBios over IP (TCPBeui), or 
subsititute TCPBeui for NetBios. Once this is done, you will 
be able to share resources back and forth.

Incidentally, unless you have to go through a router to access 
some of these resources there is absoloutly NO reason to do 
this - NetBios is a much more efficient protocol than TCPBeui. 

There is also a potential (very serious) security risk from 
using TCPBeui if your network is connected to the internet and 
you do not very carefully secure your shares.

LRA
------------------------
  From: ttlow <lthientze@citynetworks.com.sg>
  Subject: Login to NT domain
  Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:46:06 +0800 
  To: "comp.os.os2.networking.misc" 
<@news:comp.os.os2.networking.misc@192.168.16.2>


> Hi,
>     I have a problem here trying to connect my WARP 4.0 
client to aWindows
> NT Server using TCP/IP.
>     I 'm previously  using Lan Requester with NetBIOS 
protocol and it works
> just fine, I can Login to the NT domain and map to any 
resources available
> in that domain. But it seems like there is no way to 
configure the Lan
> Requester to use TCP/IP as the transport protocol.
>     I really appreciate if anyone can share your experience 
if  you ever
> done that.
>     Thanks.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Name: Lee Aroner
E-mail: Lee Aroner <leea@nospm.psynet.net>

(Please remove "nospm." to reply...)

Date: 10/29/1999
Time: 08:15:28

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                29-Oct-99 11:33:19
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: Using a Network

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:10:24 -0700, rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:

>I know absolutely nothing about a peer network, and I have used Judy's
>recipe to install and configure what I now have. I am at the point where
>computer A can ping computer B, and B can ping A successfully. From this,
>I assume that the network is properly configured. I hope. Computer A named
>OS2 is as follows;
>Connections>Computer name OS2 primary domain name RJF
>Connections>Tab Shares 
>    Share name   Resource   Type        Auto-share  Status
>    INET             k:\inet      directory     yes             started
>Connections>Tab Connections
>    Device        Remote name              Auto-connect  Status
>    N:                  \\OS2\INET                  yes             active
>Computer B named MULTI
>Connections>Computer name MULTI  primary domain name RJF
>Connections>tab Shares
>    Share name    Resource      Type     Auto-share     Status
>    NET               D:\NET       directory        yes         started
>Connection>tab Connections
>    Device         Remote name              Auto-connect  Status
>    K:                  \\MULTI\net                     yes         active
>I no idea if the above is correct. On computer  A (OS2) resides K:\inet
>and on computer B (MULTI) resides d:\NET. It is these directories with
>which I wish to exchange files. I have no idea of how to access these
>directories. Help is appreciated.

Well, pinging is a TCP/IP function.  Up there, you have NetBIOS info.

Nevertheless, if you have a functional TCP/IP connection, the odds are
pretty good that the NetBIOS connection also works.

Going from the above, it looks like you have your shares configured
correctly, but you've got your connections pointing to the shares on the
same machines.

You want the opposite.  The first connection, for example, should be drive
N: pointing to \\MULTI\NET.  After that, you can use any normal file
manipulation program to copy/move/delete/whatever files on drive N:, which
will actually be files in directory D:\NET on the MULTI machine. 
Provided, of course, you have your user access set up correctly.



 - Mike

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From: brianb@ixpres.com                                 31-Oct-99 01:27:22
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: e-mails sent under one os to a recipient under a DIFFERENT os

From: brianb@ixpres.com (Brian M. Begg)

10-30-99

Hello Ghouls and Goblins:

Got a quick "compatibility" question (maybe u can help):

If I send e-mail under Windows 98 to a recipient who
operates her computer on ANOTHER os (i.e., Mac os), will
she get the e-mail?  

Similarly, if web pages are posted to a web host that runs
their domain network on   os  "A",  can a  surfer having os "B"
access those web pages online?

Just curious, and any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Brian ------- brianb@ixpres.com

P.S.  feel free to e-mail me if you wish, and if I should target
my news to more specific groups, could you help me with the
name of these more appropriate newgroups (I couldn't find 
any specific to e-mailing !) ??


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           31-Oct-99 06:54:08
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: e-mails sent under one os to a recipient under a DIFFERENT os

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:27:45, brianb@ixpres.com (Brian M. Begg) wrote:

> 10-30-99
> 
> Hello Ghouls and Goblins:
> 
> Got a quick "compatibility" question (maybe u can help):
> 
> If I send e-mail under Windows 98 to a recipient who
> operates her computer on ANOTHER os (i.e., Mac os), will
> she get the e-mail?  
> 
> Similarly, if web pages are posted to a web host that runs
> their domain network on   os  "A",  can a  surfer having os "B"
> access those web pages online?
> 
> Just curious, and any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,

The question of E-Mail has a "depends" answer.

If the person using Windows 98 uses Outlook the person
the mail is sent to may not be able to read the "default"
Outlook E-Mail that uses HTML or proprietary Microsoft
extensions. E-Mail should be plain ascii text to ensure the
recipient will be able to read it.

And so does the web page question

The web pages will be able to read by anyone as long
as they follow the HTML standard and avoid proprietary
"extensions" that require specialized browsers to interpret
the web page. 

One of the major problems with both E-Mail and web pages
is the prolliferation of "extensions" to the standards.

Lorne Sunley
 

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    30-Oct-99 20:12:09
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 10:32:26
Subj: Re: How to run 2 Netscapes using 2 LAN cards?

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <3819B02B.193D509E@americasm01.nt.com>,
"Lee, Wing (EXCHANGE:CAR:9K93)" <wingl@americasm01.nt.com> wrote:
>Anyone knows what is the command to run netscape so that one of them
>access interface lan0 and the other netscape access interface lan1?

I don't think you'll find one.  Netscape knows nothing about "lan0" or 
"lan1".  It only works with IP addresses, nothing else.  You can set 
up TCP/IP configuration so that certain addresses travel via one card 
or the other, but that's all you can do.  Those settings will also 
affect *EVERY* other IP application.

-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 01-Nov-99 00:08:22
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Consistent DOSCALL1.DLL Crashes

From: nospam@nospam.com (Magnus Olsson)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:05:29, "Graham C. Norris" 
<spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com> wrote:

Thanks for the helpful posts, i'm sorry i didn't see them earlier (I 
was stupid enough to use a different subject on the post in this group
when i posted from the beos. I had just downloaded the BeInformed and 
it's not what I was used to from using any full-function OS/2 
newsreader. You sure appreciate OS/2 a lot more after using another 
system).

> I don't see that you have any choice other than to either restore to
> your previous system backup or work at getting FP12 on properly as
I was just about to do that, but i hadn't run chkdsk *after* applying 
fp12, so i had a last minute "hunch" to run it just in case. It turned
out that one and only one file had an allocation error (maybe my hard 
drive is getting old), and it was a critical one for dialing the 
internet.

> you've apparently got a bitsa system at the moment. What happened with
> the FP12 install?
I don't think there was any problem with the installation itself.. 
(I'm sorry if i gave that impression)

In case someone else experience consistent DOSCALL1.DLL crashes 
related to internet networking it may be worth a try to check that the
"resolv" file doesn't have any allocation errors. After running chkdsk
/F from the utility disks (correcting an allocation error for the 
"resolv" file) everything worked again.

-
Magnus Olsson

"You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within
himself."
 - Galileo Galilei

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From: chsk@my-deja.com                                  01-Nov-99 00:38:20
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: IP question,

From: chsk@my-deja.com

Hello. I have 2 questions. The following questions are puzzling to me,
perhaps someone here can help.

1) Given an IP host address 192.168.5.121 and a subnet mask of
255.255.255.248, what is the network number of the host?

My book says it is 192.168.5.120, if so, could someone explain this?


2) What portion of the IP address 129.219.51.18 represents the network,
I chose 129.219.   The book says 129.215.  Who is correct? how could
they get 215?

As I am learning this, any feedback you can provide is greatly
appreciated.


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From: Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net                 31-Oct-99 11:38:03
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Bootos2 and networking

From: "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net>


Has anyone gotten Bootos2 to suport peer or tcp/ip networking?
I have a nice idea fro backups with setboot that will need networking.

I tried just copying the parts of the config.sys over the the maint partition
but that didn't do anything but give me a ton of errors on booting up.;



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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           31-Oct-99 16:18:12
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Bootos2 and networking

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:38:06, "Dave" 
<Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> Has anyone gotten Bootos2 to suport peer or tcp/ip networking?
> I have a nice idea fro backups with setboot that will need networking.
> 
> I tried just copying the parts of the config.sys over the the maint
partition
> but that didn't do anything but give me a ton of errors on booting up.;
> 

Did you try using the CD to install those portions of the
OS into the maintenance partition. (Given they have PM
and WPS support...)?

When you copied over the config.sys portions did you also
copy over the device drivers and the programs to the
correct directories?

Lorne Sunley


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From: rjfreem@attglobal.net                             31-Oct-99 10:44:24
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Using a network, Solved

From: rjfreem@attglobal.net

I want to thank the repondants, who directed me to the solution. In the
connection>connections tab it is necessary to enter the name of the other
computer in the box adjacent to the server, and then select the other
computers name. The numerous partitons in my system act to ally my 76 year
old neuron's paranoia. I maintain 4 backups of my OS'2, pixpk 10 and 12,
and 2 data partitions on 5 hard drives, one of which is removable. Works
great as long as I do not change resolutions or video cards.

RJF


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From: rjfreem@attglobal.net                             31-Oct-99 10:47:21
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Using a network, Solved

From: rjfreem@attglobal.net

I want to thank the repondants, who directed me to the solution. In the
connection>connections tab it is necessary to enter the name of the other
computer in the box adjacent to the server, and then select the other
computers name. The numerous partitons in my system act to ally my 76 year
old neuron's paranoia. I maintain 4 backups of my OS'2, pixpk 10 and 12,
and 2 data partitions on 5 hard drives, one of which is removable. Works
great as long as I do not change resolutions or video cards.

RJF


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           01-Nov-99 01:29:07
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: IP question,

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:38:40, chsk@my-deja.com wrote:

> Hello. I have 2 questions. The following questions are puzzling to me,
> perhaps someone here can help.
> 
> 1) Given an IP host address 192.168.5.121 and a subnet mask of
> 255.255.255.248, what is the network number of the host?
> 
> My book says it is 192.168.5.120, if so, could someone explain this?
> 
> 
> 2) What portion of the IP address 129.219.51.18 represents the network,
> I chose 129.219.   The book says 129.215.  Who is correct? how could
> they get 215?
> 
> As I am learning this, any feedback you can provide is greatly
> appreciated.
> 

The following is not certified to be correct, it
only represents my understanding of the subject.

The relationship between the netmask and the IP address
are a bit more obvious (at least to me) if you render them
as four 1 byte hex values. Both of them represent a 32 bit
value.

The netmask 255.255.255.248 is FF FF FF F8
Only the zero bits in the netmask are allowed
to represent addresses with the sub-net (network).

This allows a variation of the last 3 bits for the
representation of the host IP address within
the sub-net (network number). This provides
192.168.5.121 through 192.168.5.127 as valid
IP addresses for that network. The zero value
is reserved within the sub-net.

The second one doesn't make any sense to me.
I would have said 129.219 given that the netmask
is 255.255.0,0 which is the usual class B IP address
group. The netmask value is required to determine
the network number.

Lorne Sunley

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From: leea@psynet.net                                   31-Oct-99 17:29:25
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: No Shared Resources and Network Connections' Folder

From: Lee Aroner  <leea@psynet.net>

It's a bug in the GA release of Peer. Going to ip08407 will fix it...

LRA

------------------------
  From: George Barrowcliff <barrowcl@flash.net>
  Subject: Re: No Shared Resources and Network Connections' 
Folder
  Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:11:20 GMT 
  To: "comp.os.os2.networking.misc" 
<@news:comp.os.os2.networking.misc@192.168.16.2>


> Thanks Paul, that worked great.
> Any ideas why it wasn't created in the first place?  Both of those 
are brand
> new installs.  Perhaps some option when I configured the Shared 
Resources?
> 
> Thanks again, GWB
> 
> 
> Paul Ratcliffe wrote in message ...
> >On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:47:46 GMT, George Barrowcliff 
<barrowcl@flash.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >>My Connections-NetWork-Network Services does not have the 'Shared
> Resources
> >>and Network Connections' Folder, only 'Logons' and 'Lan Server
> >>Administration'.
> >>
> >>How can I recreate it?
> >
> >Using this bit of REXX:
> >
> >/**/
> >call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'REXXUTIL', 'SysLoadFuncs'
> >call SysLoadFuncs
> >call SysCreateObject 'LSPeerWorkstation',,
> >  'Shared Resources and'd2c(10)'Network Connections',,
> >  '<WC_NETSERV>', 'OBJECTID=<PEER_WKST>'
> >
> >If that doesn't work, then try replacing WC_NETSERV with WP_DESKTOP.
> That'll
> >create the object on the desktop and you can then move it to wherever you
> want.
> 
> 

---------------End of Original Message-----------------

--------------------------------------------------------
Name: Lee Aroner
E-mail: Lee Aroner <leea@nospm.psynet.net>

(Please remove "nospm." to reply...)

Date: 10/31/1999
Time: 17:29:51

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                01-Nov-99 01:37:19
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: IP question,

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 00:38:40 GMT, chsk@my-deja.com wrote:

>Hello. I have 2 questions. The following questions are puzzling to me,
>perhaps someone here can help.
>
>1) Given an IP host address 192.168.5.121 and a subnet mask of
>My book says it is 192.168.5.120, if so, could someone explain this?
>255.255.255.248, what is the network number of the host?

192.* is a Class C address, so the net is 192.168.5.

Beyond that, I don't know.  I haven't read any 3-inch thick books on
TCP/IP (yet, perhaps).

>2) What portion of the IP address 129.219.51.18 represents the network,
>I chose 129.219.   The book says 129.215.  Who is correct? how could
>they get 215?
>
>As I am learning this, any feedback you can provide is greatly
>appreciated.

That's a Class B address, so the net should indeed by 129.219.

But then again, I haven't bothered for figure out what netmasks are for,
and what they do.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: chsk@my-deja.com                                  01-Nov-99 14:21:15
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: IP question,

From: chsk@my-deja.com


Thanks for your input, the first one, I was able to figure out, you
must AND it. The second I think is a typo in the book, because like you
both said class a is NHHH, b=NNHH, and c is NNNH, so the Network since
assigned by InterNIC cant be changed locally. It remains



In article
<gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.fkiaer0.pminews@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
  "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 00:38:40 GMT, chsk@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >Hello. I have 2 questions. The following questions are puzzling to
me,
> >perhaps someone here can help.
> >
> >1) Given an IP host address 192.168.5.121 and a subnet mask of
> >My book says it is 192.168.5.120, if so, could someone explain this?
> >255.255.255.248, what is the network number of the host?
>
> 192.* is a Class C address, so the net is 192.168.5.
>
> Beyond that, I don't know.  I haven't read any 3-inch thick books on
> TCP/IP (yet, perhaps).
>
> >2) What portion of the IP address 129.219.51.18 represents the
network,
> >I chose 129.219.   The book says 129.215.  Who is correct? how could
> >they get 215?
> >
> >As I am learning this, any feedback you can provide is greatly
> >appreciated.
>
> That's a Class B address, so the net should indeed by 129.219.
>
> But then again, I haven't bothered for figure out what netmasks are
for,
> and what they do.
>
>  - Mike
>
> Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.
>
>


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From: camilla@primenet.com                              02-Nov-99 00:48:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Need new tape backup

From: Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)

I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
often.  (Long history of failures here).

I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. 
Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



-------------------------------------------------------------
"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
                   that your brain falls out"

                    Camilla Cracchiolo
                     Registered Nurse
                  Los Angeles, California 
                          USA

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From: Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net                 01-Nov-99 18:26:19
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: Bootos2 and networking

From: "Dave" <Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net>

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:18:24 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:38:06, "Dave" 
><Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone gotten Bootos2 to suport peer or tcp/ip networking?
>> I have a nice idea fro backups with setboot that will need networking.
>> 
>> I tried just copying the parts of the config.sys over the the maint
partition
>> but that didn't do anything but give me a ton of errors on booting up.;
>> 
>
>Did you try using the CD to install those portions of the
>OS into the maintenance partition. (Given they have PM
>and WPS support...)?

No. (other then installing it to my 'normal partition.
>
>When you copied over the config.sys portions did you also
>copy over the device drivers and the programs to the
>correct directories?

I gotta look at that (server took a dump and I'm digging my way out of that. 
I gotta say, OS/2 is stable, but when it gets cranky, its cranky BIG TIME).

So basically its do-able?  Cool.  Command line is just peachy fine by me. 
I'm quite used to "net use"


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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                01-Nov-99 18:33:09
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: IP question,

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On 1 Nov 1999 20:08:47 GMT, scott s. wrote:

>In message <gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.fkiaer0.pminews@netnews.worldnet.att.net> -
>"Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> writes:
>|
>|That's a Class B address, so the net should indeed by 129.219.
>|
>|But then again, I haven't bothered for figure out what netmasks are for,
>|and what they do.
>|
>
>You need to do this, since Warp uses classless (CIDR) routing
>and in that case the netmask is required.  IBM has a good redbook on
>TCP/IP which covers this.  A class B address will only define a class
>B network if a netmask of 255.255.0.0 is also used.  Today you do not
>request, or get, a full class B or class C block of network addresses.

Warp 4's routing did not recognize 172.20.0 and 172.20.1 as different
nets, even when used with a netmask of 255.255.255.0.  That's with one
address on an ethernet card, and one on a token ring card, in the same
machine.

I had to use 172.20 and 172.22 (difference in the second octet), which
works with or without a netmask.  

So OS/2's routing certainly isn't ignorant of address classes.

Also consider what happens when you put in a default route via the TCP/IP
settings notebook.  In addition to the default route, it adds a net route
that conforms to the address class.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: "\"Iain Lindley\"<engineering"@p...               02-Nov-99 13:02:12
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: samba and warpserver

Message sender: "\"Iain Lindley\"<engineering"@pretran.co.nz

From: Iain Lindley <"\"Iain Lindley\"<engineering"@pretran.co.nz>>

Hi,
Does anyone have samba on linux running on a warpserver domain,
I can share a drive with samba to a win pc when only 2 pcs (no
warpserver)
but no luck on the warpserver network.

Help appreciated, a working smb.conf much appreciated.

steve

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From: mmellin@home.com                                  02-Nov-99 05:04:17
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 03:18:29
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 03:08:41, Michael Schmidt <mschmidt@home.com> wrote:


>> Make sure the the first line in your config.sys is for the
>> hpfs driver.
 
> And that little piece of tribal knowledge should be tossed out somehow
> every few weeks - it would save a few kWh worth of reboots.


I'm not a ISO engineer by any stretch - but without a doubt, my
hardware's MTBF figures were severely altered during this P2P
install attempt - If I had half an ounce of OS/2 sense... I'da hit
Deja searching for "peer" & "os/2" & "screwed" *before* I undertook
what seemed like a routine install ...

I still don't know which or where the problem was - the first line in
my config.sys is/was a REM line, and nearly all the path statements
were over 255....

The "fix" was to backup my existing config.sys, copy the original
installation config.sys from C:\OS2\INSTALL, installed P2P, migrated
the changes back to my Config.Sys and applied the P2P CSD

It's up, it's running, and I think I'm still bleeding over this
electronic anurisim !!!  

Thanks again to all who e-mailed/responded with the help.
Mark Mellin


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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              02-Nov-99 14:37:23
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Using a networked HP LJ3100 ?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Michael Taylor wrote:
> 
> We have a HP LJ3100 installed on a NT Server V4 file and print
> server.
> 
> Is there any way I can print to it from OS/2 V4?
> 
> I know it is a WinPrinter and we have the HP JetSuite installed
> on the NT box. The NT4 WS boxes can print to it but only from Win
> Apps (ie "print' from the DOS command line doesn't work!).
> 
    The printer has to be shared from the NT box. You can then use it
from the os/2 system. You will also need an os/2 printer driver on your
system.


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: bv@mail.bv.no                                     02-Nov-99 15:34:14
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Simple networking question....

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bv@mail.bv.no>

Michael Schmidt wrote:

> cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Make sure the the first line in your config.sys is for the
> > hpfs driver.
>
> And that little piece of tribal knowledge should be tossed out somehow
> every few weeks - it would save a few kWh worth of reboots.
>

Except if you have JFS installed. Then the first line MUST be
DEVICE=X:\OS2\BOOT\UNICODE.SYS


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From: rjfreem@attglobal.net                             02-Nov-99 10:18:13
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: rjfreem@attglobal.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 
   at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:

Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
supply fan. Heat kills.

RJF



>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
rjfreem@attglobal.net
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: cleber@ibm.net                                    02-Nov-99 19:24:00
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: WarpServer & Dos client

From: "Clemens Pipek" <cleber@ibm.net>

Hi all,

i need a dos bootdisk with a WS-Dos client (command line). All what i 
like to is to boot, login to WS and after this i start DriveImage from 
PowerQuest. We need this for backup and/or cloning HDD's.

1) ist this possible
2) what do i need
3) how to bring the client to FDD

Thanks for any info,
Clemens





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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             02-Nov-99 14:40:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

How many generations of backups are you going to make to a removable hard
disk?

I realize that the initial cost of a tape drive is higher, but the incremental
cost for additional backups and the ease of storing backups off site is a
tremendous plus.

Using DAT, a 4GB (uncompressed) backup costs less than $10.

And what happens if the hard disk controller goes belly up? The backup is
likely to be worthless too.

Alan


rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:

> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
>
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
>
> RJF
>
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
>
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
>
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
>
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> rjfreem@attglobal.net
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: jsanchez@halcyon.com                              02-Nov-99 14:17:03
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: Performance deifferences between different hubs?

From: "Jim Sanchez" <jsanchez@halcyon.com>

I believe that "hubs is hubs" that is, they are all the same if they are
working properly.  However, if one doesn't meet the 10BaseT specs then you
may have problems particularly with longer cables.
Cheers
Jim
Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com> wrote in message
news:381E4E43.A0650C3B@datatone.com...
> When I first set up a home network about four years ago, I assumed that
> a hub is a hub is a hub, so I bought what seemed at the time to be
> reasonable value for money -- a Kingston EtheRx 8-port hub.
>
> Now I am wondering whether in fact some hubs handle heavy loads better
> than others. Would I have been better off with a 3Com or some other
> well-established manufacturer of networking products?
>
> Alan
>


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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      03-Nov-99 13:26:15
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Problems with SOCKS and ICQ..

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

Hmm..

Using MPTN8620, TCP/IP 4.1 (fixpack 1) and socks 5 server on a linux machine 
(not mine).

Everything works through this proxy server, irc, ftp, telnet etc. Except ICQ 
which uses UDP port 4000. Now Windows users using ICQ for windows say they can 

connect through this socks server. I only get timeout errors though (ICQ/2, 
ICQJava and licq). I tried different servers as well no luck.

Any suggestions?


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From: zprt06@pretran.co.nz                              03-Nov-99 15:29:27
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: samba and warpserver

From: zprt06@pretran.co.nz

Thanks Lee,
Any idea why I can't get samba running then with the warp4 pc's,
with or without netbios over tcp/ip.

steve

Lee Aroner wrote:

> You only need NB/IP if you need to pass through a router to
> get to network resources, or if your Win boxes don't have
> NetBeui installed.
>
> You probably also don't need the 802.2 installed, it's for
> special applications only...
>
> LRA
> ------------------------
>
> > Ok, I have the win pc's working now but not the warp4 ones.
> > I have one adapter in MPTS
> > 3 com etherlink III
> >     0 - IBM IEEE 802.2
> >     0 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
> >     1 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS OVER TCP/IP
> >     0 - IBM TCP/IP
> >
> > Should I have both netbios protocols loaded?
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > Does anyone have samba on linux running on a warpserver
> domain,
> > > I can share a drive with samba to a win pc when only 2 pcs
> (no
> > > warpserver)
> > > but no luck on the warpserver network.
> > >
> > > Help appreciated, a working smb.conf much appreciated.
> > >
> > > steve
> >
> >
> >
>
> ---------------End of Original Message-----------------
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Name: Lee Aroner
> E-mail: Lee Aroner <leea@nospm.psynet.net>
>
> (Please remove "nospm." to reply...)
>
> Date: 11/01/1999
> Time: 19:33:33
>
>  _,_ /|
>  \`o.O' ACK!
>  =(___)=
>     U
>
> --------------------------------------------------------

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                02-Nov-99 23:08:14
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Problems with SOCKS and ICQ..

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On 3 Nov 1999 13:26:31 +1000, Khairil Yusof wrote:

>Hmm..
>
>Using MPTN8620, TCP/IP 4.1 (fixpack 1) and socks 5 server on a linux machine 
>(not mine).
>
>Everything works through this proxy server, irc, ftp, telnet etc. Except ICQ 
>which uses UDP port 4000. Now Windows users using ICQ for windows say they
can 
>connect through this socks server. I only get timeout errors though (ICQ/2, 
>ICQJava and licq). I tried different servers as well no luck.
>
>Any suggestions?

OS/2's SOCKS support is at the v4 level, which doesn't support UDP.

You'll have to configure ICQ to use the SOCKS server.  ICQ/2 doesn't
support this yet, I believe.

The Java version does, however.  You need to go into Preferences, click on
the Connection tab, check off that you're using a firewall, and choose the
SOCKS5 setting from there.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      03-Nov-99 17:49:14
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Problems with SOCKS and ICQ..

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:08:28, "Mike Ruskai"
<thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> 
wrote:

> OS/2's SOCKS support is at the v4 level, which doesn't support UDP.

I thought TCPIP 4.1 supports Socks 5?
  
> The Java version does, however.  You need to go into Preferences

It fails with this as well.. first thing I checked to see if the socks server 
was working.

Everything else seems to work fine though.


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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                03-Nov-99 03:25:03
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: Problems with SOCKS and ICQ..

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On 3 Nov 1999 17:49:29 +1000, Khairil Yusof wrote:

>On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:08:28, "Mike Ruskai"
<thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> 
>wrote:
>
>> OS/2's SOCKS support is at the v4 level, which doesn't support UDP.
>
>I thought TCPIP 4.1 supports Socks 5?

That I don't know.

>> The Java version does, however.  You need to go into Preferences
>
>It fails with this as well.. first thing I checked to see if the socks server 

>was working.
>
>Everything else seems to work fine though.

Have you tried another UDP protocol through the proxy?  



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    02-Nov-99 06:44:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: samba and warpserver

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <Chameleon.991101193502.leea@FRED>,
Lee Aroner  <leea@psynet.net> wrote:
>
>You only need NB/IP if you need to pass through a router to 
>get to network resources, or if your Win boxes don't have 
>NetBeui installed.

As I recall, Samba requires NetBIOS/IP.
>
>You probably also don't need the 802.2 installed, it's for 
>special applications only...

It's used for SNA applications i.e. Communications Manager/2 or 
Personal Communications, to work with IBM main frame computers etc.


>> Ok, I have the win pc's working now but not the warp4 ones.
>> I have one adapter in MPTS
>> 3 com etherlink III
>>     0 - IBM IEEE 802.2
>>     0 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
>>     1 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS OVER TCP/IP
>>     0 - IBM TCP/IP
>> 
>> Should I have both netbios protocols loaded?
>> 
>> Steve wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> > Does anyone have samba on linux running on a warpserver 
>domain,
>> > I can share a drive with samba to a win pc when only 2 pcs 
>(no
>> > warpserver)
>> > but no luck on the warpserver network.
>> >
>> > Help appreciated, a working smb.conf much appreciated.
>> >
>> > steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>---------------End of Original Message-----------------
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Name: Lee Aroner
>E-mail: Lee Aroner <leea@nospm.psynet.net>
>
>(Please remove "nospm." to reply...)
>
>Date: 11/01/1999
>Time: 19:33:33
>
> _,_ /|
> \`o.O' ACK!
> =(___)=
>    U
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>
>

-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    03-Nov-99 05:46:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: WarpServer & Dos client

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <pyrorevozarg.fklig00.pminews@news3.ibm.net>,
"Clemens Pipek" <cleber@ibm.net> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>i need a dos bootdisk with a WS-Dos client (command line). All what i 
>like to is to boot, login to WS and after this i start DriveImage from 
>PowerQuest. We need this for backup and/or cloning HDD's.
>
>1) ist this possible
>2) what do i need
>3) how to bring the client to FDD

At work, we do the same using PC-DOS.
You'll need the IBM DOS LAN Services or equivalent from MS, to build a
bootable diskette capable of connecting to the server.  IBM DLS should
be on the Warp Server or its CD.

Place all the Drive Image stuff on a server, so that you don't have to
keep it on the floppies.  Then create a batch file that logs you on to
the server and includes the PQDI subdirectory in the path.


-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      03-Nov-99 22:20:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: Problems with SOCKS and ICQ..

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:25:06, "Mike Ruskai"
<thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> 
wrote:

> Have you tried another UDP protocol through the proxy?  

Tried talk.. won't open a UDP port. Damn.. is there another way to get UDP
ports
and SOCKS 5 support in OS/2? 

Might try and see if delegate will work.


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From: greeneggsnspam@micron.net                         03-Nov-99 19:48:18
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:11
Subj: Re: Problems with SOCKS and ICQ..

From: Nathan Herren <greeneggsnspam@micron.net>

The problem may be related to Network Address Translation, if that's
what's implemented on the Linux proxy.

Frankly, I don't have much experience with NAT but was going to
implement it, researched it somewhat, and vaguely recalled that ICQ had
difficulties with it.  If everything else (other TCP/IP apps) works,
then I'd suspect the following:

8.0. NAT limitations

8.1. Applications with IP-address Content

   Not All applications lend themselves easily to address translation by
   NAT devices. Especially, the applications that carry IP address (and
   TU port, in case of NAPT) inside the payload. Application Level
   Gateways, or ALGs must be used to perform translations on packets
   pertaining to such applications. ALGs may optionally utilize address
   (and TU port) assignments made by NAT and perform translations
   specific to the application. The combination of NAT functionality and
   ALGs will not provide end-to-end security assured by IPsec.  However,
   tunnel mode IPsec can be accomplished with NAT router serving as
   tunnel end point.

   SNMP is one such application with address content in payload. NAT
   routers would not translate IP addresses within SNMP payloads. It is
   not uncommon for an SNMP specific ALG to reside on a NAT router to
   perform SNMP MIB translations proprietary to the private network.

8.2. Applications with inter-dependent control and data sessions

   NAT devices operate on the assumption that each session is
   independent.  Session characteristics like session orientation,
   source and destination IP addresses, session protocol, and source and
   destination transport level identifiers are determined independently
   at the start of each new session.

   However, there are applications such as H.323 that use one or more
   control sessions to set the characteristics of the follow-on sessions
   in their control session payload. Such applications require use of
   application specific ALGs that can interpret and translate the
   payload, if necessary. Payload interpretation would help NAT be
   prepared for the follow-on data sessions.

This info is out of an RFC.  The complete text is here
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc2663.html

I read somewhere (maybe on the ICQ homepage?) that ICQ has limitations
with NAT.  Of course, why it would work for your Windows users is beyond
me (then again, I could be wrong altogether :-) ).

HTH
-Nathan

Khairil Yusof wrote:
> 
> Hmm..
> 
> Using MPTN8620, TCP/IP 4.1 (fixpack 1) and socks 5 server on a linux machine
> (not mine).
> 
> Everything works through this proxy server, irc, ftp, telnet etc. Except ICQ
> which uses UDP port 4000. Now Windows users using ICQ for windows say they
can
> connect through this socks server. I only get timeout errors though (ICQ/2,
> ICQJava and licq). I tried different servers as well no luck.
> 
> Any suggestions?

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From: howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com                      03-Nov-99 10:42:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Howard Wong <howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com>

First off, I am assuming you are putting the hard
drive in a "drawer" that can be removed from a
chassis that remains with the CPU box.

To reap full benefit of backups, the media holding
the backed up data should be stored in a location
away from the building the computer is located. 
This requires transporting the storage media on a
regular basis, which is not what a typical hard
drive is designed for and you risk damaging the
HD. Moreover, such damage may not be noticeable
until you NEED the data for recovery.

Tape/MO/CD-R/JAZ/whatever with removable
disk/cartridge may be more expensive one way or
another, you get the intended protection that data
backup offers.

Regards,
Howard Wong

rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:
> 
> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
> 
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
> 
> RJF
> 
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
> 
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
> 
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
> 
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
> 
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
> 
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> rjfreem@attglobal.net
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              03-Nov-99 23:05:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: alan@min.net.notspam

I run Quicken 98 Deluxe for Windows 3.1 under Warp.  I used to be able to
use it (and the version of M$ Internet Explorer 3.03 that came with it) to
update my portfolio and download updates to the program from the internet. 
This no longer works.  When I try to connect, I get a winsock error "Inet
not running" and then the choice to "abort/retry/ignore."  What causes
this winsock error, and how do I correct it?  I have one copy of
winsock.dll, and it's in my dpath (I've tried it in both
c:\os2\mdos\winos2 and f:\tcpip\dos\bin).

Internet Explorer causes a GPF.

I have both a cable modem and a dialup account, though my resolv and
resolv2 files reflect only the cable modem account because I don't know
how to include information from both accounts in those files.  Thus, I've
tried to set up Quicken's internet for direct connection to internet.

Thanks for any help.

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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      04-Nov-99 11:40:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: Re: Problems with SOCKS and ICQ..

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:18:11, "Mike Ruskai"
<thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> 
wrote:

> Aside from that, if a properly-configured ICQJava can't communicate
> through the SOCKS5 server, then it's probably not configured to allow UDP
> access.  I used the NEC SOCKS5 server on OS/2 before the InJoy gateway
> program was available, and it did work with UDP (though too slowly to
> allow a UDP-based game like Quake to function).

Just tested out AIM Java to use socks.. it works (AIM Socks that is). I think 
AIM only uses socks 4 and TCP. Without internal socks support and using the
OS/2
Warp socks support works as well with AIM.

checking out netstat -s  

ICQ/2 tries to open a UDP port on the DNS server specifed in socks.env. I
tried 
3 different DNS servers and finally the one on the socks server itself.






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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               03-Nov-99 18:22:26
  To: camilla@primenet.com                              03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

To: camilla@primenet.com
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
> 
> I have to get a new tape drive.  
Check http://www.cristie.com/
I am looking to purchase one of their drives (admittedly a large
autoloader) and they may be willing to bundle their backup software for
os/2.  Well if you ask them nicely they will as they seem to bundle the
Win95 crap with them.

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Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
too)

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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               03-Nov-99 18:04:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: samba and warpserver

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

zprt06@pretran.co.nz wrote:
> 
> Thanks Lee,
> Any idea why I can't get samba running then with the warp4 pc's,
> with or without netbios over tcp/ip.
> 
You need Netbios over tcp/ip

see here:
http://us1.samba.org/samba/ftp/docs/textdocs/OS2-Client-HOWTO.txt
and here:
http://huizen.dds.nl/~jacco2/samba/warp.html

Let me know please if you make it work.  I have not managed but we are
uncertain (ha, ha) how the machine I am trying to access advertises
itself, thus I have been unable to connect to it.

;-)
Charles

Good luck.

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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  03-Nov-99 16:04:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 at 12:48 AM,
   Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)
said:


>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.

At the present time, maybe if there are any left you can buy an AIWA SCSI
tape drive which uses TRAVAN 4 cartridges.  Try computergeeks and
http://www.cc-solutions.com/  also called complete computer solutions.  I
got one of these a year ago and it is great.  I am running it off of a
cheap SCSI card with Nova bak.  These two vendors are also a terrific
source for SCSI and video and NIC cards as well as other stuff.

>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                03-Nov-99 15:18:05
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Problems with SOCKS and ICQ..

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On 3 Nov 1999 22:20:01 +1000, Khairil Yusof wrote:

>On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:25:06, "Mike Ruskai"
<thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> 
>wrote:
>
>> Have you tried another UDP protocol through the proxy?  
>
>Tried talk.. won't open a UDP port. Damn.. is there another way to get UDP
ports
>and SOCKS 5 support in OS/2? 
>
>Might try and see if delegate will work.

You did say that the gateway machine was running Linux, right?  Well,
Linux has IP masquerading built-in, which wouldn't have any problem with
UDP (my OS/2 masquerader even supports ICMP packets).

Aside from that, if a properly-configured ICQJava can't communicate
through the SOCKS5 server, then it's probably not configured to allow UDP
access.  I used the NEC SOCKS5 server on OS/2 before the InJoy gateway
program was available, and it did work with UDP (though too slowly to
allow a UDP-based game like Quake to function).



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    03-Nov-99 19:38:04
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

Do you also have the x:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS driver loaded, either in
CONFIG.SYS or in DOS Settings/Device?

Graham.

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From: aljohnson@centuryinter.net                        04-Nov-99 04:47:23
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: FS:  OS/2 AS400 Access Software????

From: aljohnson@centuryinter.net

I have a sealed 27 disk set of software the says AS/400 Client Access for 
Optimized OS/2  5763-XG1 V3R1M1 for sale.  No documentation or manuals only
new 
sealed disks.  Make me an offer...

Allen

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From: Johannes.Hromadka@siemens.at                      04-Nov-99 09:14:20
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Re: samba and warpserver

From: Johannes Hromadka <Johannes.Hromadka@siemens.at>

zprt06@pretran.co.nz wrote:
> 
> Thanks Lee,
> Any idea why I can't get samba running then with the warp4 pc's,
> with or without netbios over tcp/ip.
> 
> >
> > > Ok, I have the win pc's working now but not the warp4 ones.
> > > I have one adapter in MPTS
> > > 3 com etherlink III
> > >     0 - IBM IEEE 802.2
> > >     0 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS
> > >     1 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS OVER TCP/IP
> > >     0 - IBM TCP/IP


Do you have the Peer or Lan Requester configured to use both interfacec
or at least that one with number 1 ?

Normally the configure utility shows you all existing netbios interfaces
and you can check each one you would like to use.

If you added netios over IP after you configured Peer or LanRequester.
Peer or Lan Requester will not use the added interface.

Its recomended alway run MPTS through the peer or lan requester
configuration tool


	Greetings from Vienna

		Hannes

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From: clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk                        04-Nov-99 09:13:24
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: "Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk>

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:05:23 GMT, alan@min.net.notspam wrote:

:>I run Quicken 98 Deluxe for Windows 3.1 under Warp.  I used to be able to
:>use it (and the version of M$ Internet Explorer 3.03 that came with it) to
:>update my portfolio and download updates to the program from the internet. 
:>This no longer works.  When I try to connect, I get a winsock error "Inet
:>not running" and then the choice to "abort/retry/ignore."  What causes
:>this winsock error, and how do I correct it?  I have one copy of
:>winsock.dll, and it's in my dpath (I've tried it in both
:>c:\os2\mdos\winos2 and f:\tcpip\dos\bin).
:>
:>Internet Explorer causes a GPF.
:>
:>I have both a cable modem and a dialup account, though my resolv and
:>resolv2 files reflect only the cable modem account because I don't know
:>how to include information from both accounts in those files.  Thus, I've
:>tried to set up Quicken's internet for direct connection to internet.
:>
:>Thanks for any help.
:>
:>


I lost inet routing from WinOS2 by somehow losing my ETC variable in the
autoexec.bat thereby rendering Realplayer inoperable.

Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)

and re-ordered my PATH
to

PATH=e:\tcpip\dos\bin;E:\TCPIP\DOS\ETC;E:\OS2;E:\OS2\MDOS;E:\;E:\OS2\MDOS\WINO
S2;e:\os2\mdos\winos2\system


everything worked again.

Maybe it's as simple as that for you too ?

Hope this helps,

,c.

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From: miket@interact.net.au                             03-Nov-99 10:09:07
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Using a networked HP LJ3100 ?

From: miket@interact.net.au    (Michael Taylor)

James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> writes:
> 
> 
> Michael Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > We have a HP LJ3100 installed on a NT Server V4 file and print
> > server.
> > 
> > Is there any way I can print to it from OS/2 V4?
> > 
> > I know it is a WinPrinter and we have the HP JetSuite installed
> > on the NT box. The NT4 WS boxes can print to it but only from Win
> > Apps (ie "print' from the DOS command line doesn't work!).
> > 
>     The printer has to be shared from the NT box. You can then use it
> from the os/2 system. You will also need an os/2 printer driver on your
> system.
> 

I wish it were that simple. This printer replaced a LJ 3 - which worked fine.
However the LJ 3100 is some sort of WinPrinter and doesn't seem to work with
anything other than the Win NT workstations and even then only with Win Apps.
DOS Apps cannot print to it even under NT.

I expected to be able to send something to it from OS/2 by printing to the
share but
this didn't even register on the NT Server - it appeared to print NOTHING. 
No lights flickered and the printer object on Nt showed NOTHING in the print
queue.

Has anyone succesfully used a LJ3100 with OS/2? Over a network or otherwise?

--
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Mike                        miket@interact.net.au
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From: miket@interact.net.au                             03-Nov-99 10:30:18
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: samba and warpserver

From: miket@interact.net.au    (Michael Taylor)

zprt06@pretran.co.nz writes:
> Thanks Lee,
> Any idea why I can't get samba running then with the warp4 pc's,
> with or without netbios over tcp/ip.
> 

Check the setting for NB/TCPIP Name pairs using the "Adaptors and Protocol
Services" in the system setup (with Warp 4) or LAPS or MPTS with 
earlier versions. This must be set to a number high enougth to
accomodate all the PCs you want to connect to.

In fact go through all the settings for Netbios over TCPIP. There
are setting that equate the NETBIOS name with an IP address and
these speed up connection times (as long as you get them right!!!).

> 
> Lee Aroner wrote:
> 
> > You only need NB/IP if you need to pass through a router to
> > get to network resources, or if your Win boxes don't have
> > NetBeui installed.
> >

To connect to Linux with samba you WILL need Netbios over TCP/IP as
that is what samba does.

> > You probably also don't need the 802.2 installed, it's for
> > special applications only...
> >

That is true - we needed this to connect to out P/390 (MVS)
before the connection software was upgraded to work via
TCPIP. 

--
Regards,                    Michael Taylor
Mike                        miket@interact.net.au
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  Home Page: http://users.interact.net.au/~pmiy
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From: no.spam.please.fwegener@bornundp...               04-Nov-99 15:03:16
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Connecting to a network - NIC-drivers needed!

Message sender: no.spam.please.fwegener@bornundpartner.com

From: no.spam.please.fwegener@bornundpartner.com (FW)

Ok, so I have to use an OS/2-client.

First off, let me say that I'm not really an OS/2-User. I need it to
run a Workflow-Buildtime by IBM, I don't usually work with it,
administrate it or use any applications under it. I don't really know
too much about it.

So, I'd like to connect to an NT-Network. I'm Admin for that, so I can
pretty much do what I want to - as long as I know what I have to do. 

I run OS/2 Warp 4 on an old PC (AMD K5 150 / 32MB RAM / 3COM 900 COMBO
- NIC)

First off, I don't have drivers for the NIC, which is a 3COM 900
Combo. The 3COM-homepage wasn't really very useful, so if anyone has a
driver for that card and could send it to me or tell me where to get
one I'd be most thankful.

Once that obstacle is taken I'll propably call for help again, because
last time I tried this on a PC I had NIC-drivers for, it didn't work
either, and I'm sure I'll run into the same problems again!

Thanks,

Frank

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From: cmhall@umich.edu                                  04-Nov-99 15:27:24
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: Connecting to a network - NIC-drivers needed!

From: cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall)

In <38219e51.16352103@194.25.2.2>, no.spam.please.fwegener@bornundpartner.com
(FW) writes:
>Ok, so I have to use an OS/2-client.
>
>First off, let me say that I'm not really an OS/2-User. I need it to
>run a Workflow-Buildtime by IBM, I don't usually work with it,
>administrate it or use any applications under it. I don't really know
>too much about it.
>
>So, I'd like to connect to an NT-Network. I'm Admin for that, so I can
>pretty much do what I want to - as long as I know what I have to do. 
>
>I run OS/2 Warp 4 on an old PC (AMD K5 150 / 32MB RAM / 3COM 900 COMBO
>- NIC)
>
>First off, I don't have drivers for the NIC, which is a 3COM 900
>Combo. The 3COM-homepage wasn't really very useful, so if anyone has a
>driver for that card and could send it to me or tell me where to get
>one I'd be most thankful.
>
>Once that obstacle is taken I'll propably call for help again, because
>last time I tried this on a PC I had NIC-drivers for, it didn't work
>either, and I'm sure I'll run into the same problems again!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Frank

First, is any network software installed? If not, intalling it may auto-detect
your card. In any case, for drivers of all kinds, go to the device driver pak
online.
The 3com section for lan adapters is at:

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/lanadapt/3comcorp/index.htm

Good luck.

Chris Hall  (cmhall@umich.edu)
Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan
"They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results
they expect, sometimes they don't."   from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.


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From: greeneggsnspam@micron.net                         02-Nov-99 03:08:01
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:21
Subj: Re: Excessive ethernet collisions

From: Nathan Herren <greeneggsnspam@micron.net>

Mike,

I know that this is a shot in the dark, however, I've had very strange
things happen when a LAN card grabs IRQ 9.  I'd be suspicious that your
ethernet card did so right when you added the token-ring card (or vice
versa).

I read the other 2 responses about duplex settings, however, if it
worked fine before the added token-ring card and nothing else has
changed, I'd suspect IRQ9 (still, it wouldn't hurt to follow up on their
suggestions).  The BIOS on my system has an option to set it
unavailable.  Try that and see what happens.

-Nathan

Mike Ruskai wrote:
> 
> I recently installed a token ring network alongside my existing ethernet
> network, and while doing a performance comparison, I discovered something
> odd.
> 
> The token ring performance averaged around 800KB/sec.  The ethernet
> performance was doing around 20KB/sec, and the hub's packet and collision
> lights were lighting up, one after the other, in regular rhythm.
> 
> I've disabled the token ring interface on both computers (only two have
> token ring cards in them), and the problem persists (from each machine).
> 
> This machine is using a 3COM 3C905B-TX 10/100 card, and the server machine
> is using a 3COM 3C590 card.  Both are using a 10BaseT connection via a
> 3COM OfficeConnect 8-port hub.
> 
> The two token ring cards are 3COM 3C619C's.
> 
> The problem with ethernet is evident only over TCP/IP, apparently.  Using
> NetBIOS to transfer the same file (rather than FTP) shows no major
> problems (there are spells of no packet activity, but no abnormal
> collisions), with an average transfer rate of about 715KB/sec.
> 
> I've used both OS/2's FTP client, and two clients I've written (one in
> REXX, one in C++).  The latter two use 10KB buffers, with the REXX one
> having an option to use a different size.  If I change the buffer size to
> 512 bytes, the transfer is greatly improved (though still problematic in
> the same fashion, with just more transfer between bright collision
> lights).  The dropoff point seems to be around 1500-byte buffers.
> 
> This very connection has been used in the past with no such problems, so
> I'm suspicious of the token ring cards, but can't verify their culpability
> without yanking them out.
> 
> Is this ringing bells in anyone's head, who can tell me where the problem
> is without my having to do surgery?
> 
>  - Mike
> 
> Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.

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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              04-Nov-99 23:12:23
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: alan@min.net.notspam

In <3820FFA0.7954B152@linkline.com>, on 11/03/99 
   at 07:38 PM, "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com> said:

>Do you also have the x:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS driver loaded, either in
>CONFIG.SYS or in DOS Settings/Device?

Yes, it's in config.sys.


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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              04-Nov-99 23:58:24
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: alan@min.net.notspam

>Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)

Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I keep
seeing different recommendations.



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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           05-Nov-99 01:27:22
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:22
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:58:49, alan@min.net.notspam wrote:

> 
> >Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)
> 
> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I keep
> seeing different recommendations.
> 
> 

The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS
and applies to OS/2 applications.

The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT
and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications.

Lorne Sunley

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From: fgearhart@voyager.net                             05-Nov-99 04:55:16
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: OS/2 networking questions..

From: fgearhart@voyager.net

My office is running Win9x across a Novell network, I believe, and at 
the moment thats about all I know about it.  My laptop is setup so 
that if I boot to Windows it connects to the network.  Can anyone 
point me to a FAQ that will tell me how I can get OS/2 to hook up to 
the network?  I understand computers in general fairly well, but 
_networking_ per se loses me, so I'm interested in something fairly 
rudimentary.  (Tab A goes in Slot B, type this:  xxx, etc..)  What I 
need to have installed in OS/2, software, etc..  As usual the folks 
who setup our network know ixnay about OS/2 so I'm SOL there.  

I'd much rather be using OS/2 than windows, so _any_ help is greatly 
appreciated!

Sincerely,

Fritz

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           05-Nov-99 05:09:25
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: OS/2 networking questions..

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 04:55:32, fgearhart@voyager.net wrote:

> My office is running Win9x across a Novell network, I believe, and at 
> the moment thats about all I know about it.  My laptop is setup so 
> that if I boot to Windows it connects to the network.  Can anyone 
> point me to a FAQ that will tell me how I can get OS/2 to hook up to 
> the network?  I understand computers in general fairly well, but 
> _networking_ per se loses me, so I'm interested in something fairly 
> rudimentary.  (Tab A goes in Slot B, type this:  xxx, etc..)  What I 
> need to have installed in OS/2, software, etc..  As usual the folks 
> who setup our network know ixnay about OS/2 so I'm SOL there.  
> 
> I'd much rather be using OS/2 than windows, so _any_ help is greatly 
> appreciated!

Obtain the Novell network client for OS/2 from:

URL http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm

Install OS/2 

Install the Novell Network Client.

This client works with Novell servers up to 4.12.

Lorne Sunley

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From: clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk                        05-Nov-99 11:17:09
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: "Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 23:58:49 GMT, alan@min.net.notspam wrote:

:>
:>>Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)
:>
:>Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I keep
:>seeing different recommendations.
:>
:

\tcpip\dos\etc worked for me..   <shrug>

,c.

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        05-Nov-99 13:18:01
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-MOkz9S42IsOK@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:58:49, alan@min.net.notspam wrote:
>
>> 
>> >Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)
>> 
>> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I keep
>> seeing different recommendations.
>> 
>> 
>
>The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS
>and applies to OS/2 applications.
>
>The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT
>and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications.

Can someone explain the point of having %ETC% using different directories
under OS/2 and DOS? I'd much rather have a single hosts file which is used
from all environments.

>Lorne Sunley
>
--
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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        05-Nov-99 17:35:26
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: IP question,

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 01:37:39 -0500 (EST), Mike Ruskai
<thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >1) Given an IP host address 192.168.5.121 and a subnet mask of
> >My book says it is 192.168.5.120, if so, could someone explain this?
> >255.255.255.248, what is the network number of the host?
> 
> 192.* is a Class C address, so the net is 192.168.5.
...
> But then again, I haven't bothered for figure out what netmasks are for,
> and what they do.

Um, no.

What the netmask does is control the network number, thus _overriding_
the "Class A,B,C" convention.

For 192.168.5.121, the netmask would only be 192.168.5 if the netmask
was 255.255.255.0 (or was unused) - which it isn't!

Writing the two addresses in binary, the two are MASKed to find the
NETwork number.

So, for IP 192.168.5.121 with netmask 255.255.255.248, we have:

11111111.11111111.11111111.11111000  <== netmask
11000000.10101000.00000101.01111001  <== IP address
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The two are ANDed together to find the network number, and NANDed
to find the host number.  Or, more simply put, the network number
is indicated by the 1's in the netmask.

As you can see, the netmask indicates that all but the last three
bits are network number.  So, in this case, the network number is

11000000.10101000.00000101.01111000  ==> 192.168.5.120 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
or 192.168.5.12x - and the host number is

00000000.00000000.00000000.00000001  ==> x.x.x.1
                                ^^^
Simple, right?  :)


As for the original poster's second question, he didn't give the
netmask so it's hard to know for sure.  If the netmask is default
for that address class, however, then it's probably a typo in the book.

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From: abuse@orac.clara.co.uk                            06-Nov-99 00:04:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: Using a networked HP LJ3100 ?

From: abuse@orac.clara.co.uk (Paul Ratcliffe)

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:09:14 GMT, Michael Taylor <miket@interact.net.au>
wrote:

>However the LJ 3100 is some sort of WinPrinter and doesn't seem to work with
>anything other than the Win NT workstations and even then only with Win Apps.
>DOS Apps cannot print to it even under NT.

Sounds like you've got what used to be called (any maybe still is, I don't
follow this Win garbage) a GDI printer. The only way you are going to get
anything out of it is by printing using the GDI interface - in other words a 
Windows app.

>I expected to be able to send something to it from OS/2 by printing to the
share but
>this didn't even register on the NT Server - it appeared to print NOTHING. 
>No lights flickered and the printer object on Nt showed NOTHING in the print
queue.

The lack of output from DOS apps. on the NT box means nothing is ever going to
work from anything but Windows.
I'd suggest you junk it and get a proper printer (although I guess from your
message that you had nothing to do with its purchase and installation).

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