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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          30-Oct-99 09:21:29
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: no database app in StarOffice

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:43:24 +0300, Jyri Ivask wrote:

:>Hi.
:>Sorry to say, but there is no database application in the last Sun's
:>version of StarOffice.
:>By the way, which was the last version with StarBase included?
:>Was it able to open&save Access files?
:>Is it possible to reinstall the latest 5.1a over that version and preserve
:>the StarBase component?

There isn't an icon the StarOffice desktop but go to the file open
menu and select new database.

Also, he can use StarOffice to read his e-mail and newsgroups
until they get the problems in Netscape fixed.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
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           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: bobmcl@ibm.net                                    30-Oct-99 11:10:27
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: FP-11/12, Networking, TCP/IP & StarOffice

From: Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net>


Lorne Sunley wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:09:29, "Andrew Grygus" <lists@aaxnet.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Here's the situation:
> >
> <snip>
>
> > Well, as an experiment, we upgraded TCP/IP and Peer on one
> > machine.  >>>That machine no longer autostarts its connections<<<
> > (except to the Samba server).  We have to "reconnect" them all
> > by hand.  No help for StarOffice.
> >
> > So, to try to get to the bottom of this, we installed FixPack-12,
> > TCP/IP upgrade and Peer upgrade on two of the NET-2 machines.
> > >>>No autostart of connections<<<.  We deleted the shares and
> > connections and reestablished them.  No dice.  Still no
> > autoconnect -  >>>and no error messages saying "one or more of
> > your connections failed<<<.  We have to connect each one by
> > hand at both machines.
> >
> > Anyone know what's going on here?
> >
>
> Any Peer fixpack past IP8407 has the problem with
> >>>>No autostart of connections<<<<<<
> >>>>No autostart of shares<<<<<
> with resources shared on a Peer workstation. The
> resources shared from the server always work fine.
>
> I ran into this with both IP8410 and IP8412. The only way to
> get it to work is to roll back to the IP8407 level.
>
> It affects both disk shares and printer shares.
>
> If you have a support agreement with IBM file a
> program defect and maybe they will have it fixed
> for the next fixpack. There have been a number of
> complaints concerning this problem in the USENET
> comp.os.os2.networking groups. It happens with both
> NETBIOS and NETBIOS over TCP/IP so it is not
> a protocol problem.
>
> Lorne Sunley

 I am autostarting sharing resources from a peer with IP8407 and it
works fine. Same with connections.
I don't understand the Samba implications but I run Netbeui and TCPIP
each bound directly to the LAN, not Netbeui over TCPIP.
Is it the share or the connect that is failing?

--
------------------------------------------------------
Bob McLellan
The Little Blue Kiwi
OS/2 Solutions for New Zeland


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           30-Oct-99 01:03:18
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: FP-11/12, Networking, TCP/IP & StarOffice

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:10:54, Bob McLellan <bobmcl@ibm.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:09:29, "Andrew Grygus" <lists@aaxnet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Here's the situation:
> > >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Well, as an experiment, we upgraded TCP/IP and Peer on one
> > > machine.  >>>That machine no longer autostarts its connections<<<
> > > (except to the Samba server).  We have to "reconnect" them all
> > > by hand.  No help for StarOffice.
> > >
> > > So, to try to get to the bottom of this, we installed FixPack-12,
> > > TCP/IP upgrade and Peer upgrade on two of the NET-2 machines.
> > > >>>No autostart of connections<<<.  We deleted the shares and
> > > connections and reestablished them.  No dice.  Still no
> > > autoconnect -  >>>and no error messages saying "one or more of
> > > your connections failed<<<.  We have to connect each one by
> > > hand at both machines.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what's going on here?
> > >
> >
> > Any Peer fixpack past IP8407 has the problem with
> > >>>>No autostart of connections<<<<<<
> > >>>>No autostart of shares<<<<<
> > with resources shared on a Peer workstation. The
> > resources shared from the server always work fine.
> >
> > I ran into this with both IP8410 and IP8412. The only way to
> > get it to work is to roll back to the IP8407 level.
> >
> > It affects both disk shares and printer shares.
> >
> > If you have a support agreement with IBM file a
> > program defect and maybe they will have it fixed
> > for the next fixpack. There have been a number of
> > complaints concerning this problem in the USENET
> > comp.os.os2.networking groups. It happens with both
> > NETBIOS and NETBIOS over TCP/IP so it is not
> > a protocol problem.
> >
> > Lorne Sunley
> 
>  I am autostarting sharing resources from a peer with IP8407 and it
> works fine. Same with connections.
> I don't understand the Samba implications but I run Netbeui and TCPIP
> each bound directly to the LAN, not Netbeui over TCPIP.
> Is it the share or the connect that is failing?
> 

I believe it is the "share" that does not autostart, As soon as
you use the handy "shares and connections" GUI object to
start the share it will work. The manual intervention is a real
PITA.

The problem is in IP8410 and IP8412.

Lorne Sunley

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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   29-Oct-99 22:53:17
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <7vbffl$63n$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/29/99 
   at 06:39 AM, jwelton@my-deja.com said:

>I hate to be negative but I have two very big gripes
>with two important OS/2 applications that make my
>OS/2 life living hell.

>First Gripe:  Approach with SmartSuite 2.2 v1.1.  Now I
>PAID for this program and I expect this program to
>work for me but it continues to fail in the stretch.

>I have a large dbase of approximately 3,000 video movies
>and I'm adding all the time. I'm a real video hound and
>record just about everything I come across.  I list them
>in categories like classic movies (usually old B&W), hit
>movies, TV Specials, Sports Events, etc.  You name it and
>I've probably got it somewhere on the shelf, labeled,
>titled and numbered for easy finding.

>My problem with Approach has been trying to print out
>various or special reports.  We've set up sort of a video
>club and there are friends who ask for a list of all
>mysteries or sports, etc.  Each and every time I try to
>sort the full worksheet of all the records down to just
>particular cateogories Approach freezes up solid on me.
>It will take me days and a lot of luck to get one
>specialized listing printed.

>It is very embarrassing because I live in the dorms and
>one of the very few OS/2 users.  I'm very proud of OS/2
>but I die a thousand deaths when a group of college buddies come in and
>ask me if I've got "such and such a movie" and why don't you just print
>out a list so we can pick and choose?

>I finally gave up on trying to print out a full listing of all movies
>with SS/2 and turned to the dbase in IBMWorks. IBMWorks would not read
>a dbf4 file but it would read a dbf3. From there I was able to print
>out a full listing of every video.  It is an awful looking report
>though and I don't know how to sort the records into categories and
>just print out each categorie (if anyone knows email me with the
>instructions).

>That's my complaint with SS/2.  I want the Lotus developers to get off
>their damn butts and fix this program so it works properly.  If I want
>to sort my dbase then control/hide all the unnecessary or unwanted
>records so I can create a nice looking report of special or a group of
>designated records I should be able to do it.  I PAID for this DAMN
>program dammit!

>Gripe No. 2:

>Trying to empty my trash in Netscape 4.6.1.  I know I've complained
>about this before and I know the Netscape Team is working on it (or has
>it fixed for the next release of Communicator) but get off your duffs
>and release an update ASAP.  I get a lot of spam that goes straight to
>the dumper (trash).  If the subject line as the letters sex, babe,
>lottery, casino, etc, I never see it but after a while my trash folder
>is huge.  I've tried every possible way to empty it hoping it won't
>crash Netscape or bring my system to a halt without fail.  If it only
>crashees Netscape the next time I open Communicator there is a tmp file
>filled with my trash. I try to delete that file and Communicator
>crashes.  I start it up again and I've got ANOTHER temp file of my temp
>file trash. It's a catch22 and it just keeps building itself.  I've got
>tons of hard disk space (now have 20 gig) but it is stupid to have an
>application that won't let me empty my deleted emails or an application
>that doubles my deleted emails if I try to delete them.  FIX the DAMN
>thing DAMMIT!

>Communicator is free and I do appreciate it but give me a break, huh? 
>What good is it if I have to keep uninstalling the program and
>reinstalling the program just to empty my trash?

>OS/2 has so many wonderful things going for it that I want the (few,
>i.e., dbase) applications we have to at least work well enough to give
>us what we need.

>Sorry if I rambled on.  I struggled tonight trying to print out a list
>of horror movies (Halloween in the dorms) and was shown up by some
>weeny across campus using ACCESS and Win95!  I've got better movies but
>I can't prove it with a print out! :-(

1. DbExpert or Contact Connection
2. Write a little batch/command file to go to the direcory in NS and zap
the trash files. iconize and push the button now and then.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          30-Oct-99 13:56:23
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:06:10 +0200, Thomas Galley wrote:

:>> Trying to empty my trash in Netscape 4.6.1.  I know I've complained
:>> about this before and I know the Netscape Team is working on it
:>> (or has it fixed for the next release of Communicator) but get off
:>> your duffs and release an update ASAP.  I get a lot of spam that
:>> goes straight to the dumper (trash).  If the subject line as the
:>> letters sex, babe, lottery, casino, etc, I never see it but after
:>> a while my trash folder is huge.  I've tried every possible way
:>> to empty it hoping it won't crash Netscape or bring my system

<Lot's of gripes about Netscape snipped>

I mentioned in another post about using StarOffice for mail but
why don't you take a look on Hobbes for PostRoad Mailer.
It is now free to use and there is a registration code included
in the package (I believe) If not it should be around and I have
it here somewhere.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 30-Oct-99 04:40:01
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <MPG.1283f101c073f314989a8a@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:
>In article <7vbffl$63n$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, jwelton@my-deja.com says...
>>It is very embarrassing because I live in the dorms and
>>one of the very few OS/2 users.  I'm very proud of OS/2
>>but I die a thousand deaths when a group of college buddies
>>come in and ask me if I've got "such and such a movie" and
>>why don't you just print out a list so we can pick and choose?
>>
>
>Here is the real problem. An OS whether its OS/2, Windows, or Linux is a
hammer 
>and as such is really nothing of which one should be 'very proud'. Unless, of 

>course, you worked on a piece of it. 
>
>An OS is a tool. Nothing more.

you just think that way because you have a crummy hammer. Buy a good one 
and you, too, could be proud of your tools.


>
>-- 
>---------------------------------------
>David H. McCoy
>dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
>---------------------------------------


Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder

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From: msuch@free.fr                                     30-Oct-99 07:19:22
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 05:17:14
Subj: Realaudio to MP3

From: "Michel SUCH" <msuch@free.fr>

Hi all,

Does anyone an OS/2 or DOS application to convert realaudio files to mp3 or
wav format?
Does it exist under any platform?
Michel SUCH - Team OS/2 FRANCE
ICQ # 51654489


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From: davek@clark.net                                   30-Oct-99 11:14:04
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Odd resolution to gnupatch woes

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

danielh@crosslink.net wrote:                                          

:     SET TMP=e:\temp (instead of the default of G:\TEMP) everything 
: worked fine!                                                        

: So either my G:\TEMP directory is very strange (since it works fine 
: otherwise), or PATCH has a bizarre bug in it.                       

May be a FAT vs. HPFS issue (short vs. long file names).  I've run
into that before with converted Unix apps.

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: ariek@attglobal3.141592653589793...               30-Oct-99 12:55:01
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:17
Subj: CPUMETER: anyone still deals with registrating it?

Message sender: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net

From: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net (Arie Kazachin)

Hello!

Some time ago I attempted to registrer a rather old utility "CPUMETER"
(dated 1996). It turned out that BMTMicro doesn't deal with it anymore
and the e-mail of the author (Christof Pastors) is no longer valid.
I attempted few e-mail search engines but they only found the same
invalid e-mail address.

Does anyone have an idea, how can I contact the author on the net
(before attempting the archaic snail-mail to an address that may
or may not be correct now)?

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP ! ! !
******************************************************************************
*   Arie Kazachin, Israel, e-mail: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net *
******************************************************************************
NOTE: before replying, leave only letters in my domain-name. Sorry, SPAM trap.

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From: davidb@magicnet.net                               30-Oct-99 13:56:17
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:17
Subj: Re: FP-11/12, Networking, TCP/IP & StarOffice

From: davidb@magicnet.net

In <yvfgfnnkargpbz.fkd07t0.pminews@news.jps.net>, "Andrew Grygus"
<lists@aaxnet.com> writes:
>Here's the situation:  

snip>

>Well, as an experiment, we upgraded TCP/IP and Peer on one 
>machine.  >>>That machine no longer autostarts its connections<<< 
>(except to the Samba server).  We have to "reconnect" them all 
>by hand.  No help for StarOffice.  
>
>So, to try to get to the bottom of this, we installed FixPack-12, 
>TCP/IP upgrade and Peer upgrade on two of the NET-2 machines.  
>>>>No autostart of connections<<<.  We deleted the shares and 
>connections and reestablished them.  No dice.  Still no 
>autoconnect -  >>>and no error messages saying "one or more of 
>your connections failed<<<.  We have to connect each one by 
>hand at both machines.  
>
>Anyone know what's going on here?  
>
>ajg@aaxnet.com
>

snip>

I haven't upgraded to FP12 (yet) and also haven't used Star Office that much
yet but I am up to FP 11 and did have the same non connection problem.  I
found a solution by Network->Network Services->Lan Services
Admin->(Your)Domain->User Accounts->(Tab) Assignments you can set the
connections to become active.  Active is the operative word here.  I found no
help available and tried every setting I could everywhere until I did the
above.  I hope this helps.

David

davidb@magicnet.net

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From: nenad@my-deja.com                                 30-Oct-99 14:16:14
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:18
Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 questions

From: Nenad Milenkovic <nenad@my-deja.com>

  Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:

> The scroll bar problem will be fixed in a refresh.

Nice. Please consider the following also:

1. In "Edit Bookmarks" window, pressing "End" will work
   as it should, but the selection bar will not be erased
   from the first entry.

2. When Navigator is waiting for user to respond to
   authorization (user/password) prompt, everything
   else stops - downloading, loading of pages, network
   traffic... Not so convinient.

3. Very often NS just stalls when you tell it to reload page,
   reading 20 or 120 bytes, then stopping for no apparent reason,
   only to continiue and finish loading after 10 or 20 seconds.

Nenad


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     30-Oct-99 19:16:21
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:17:56, "Dilbert Firestorm" 
<wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:

> Has anyone used bootos2 to  make a bootable zip disk?
> 
> does it work?
> 
> Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
> 

Yes, it works very well (MUCH better than the Create utility disk 
thing, although Fix Pack 12 seems to have introduced a problem, and 
the new 9.25 version of BOOTOS2 is supposed to have a fix for that, 
but it doesn't seem to work). I expect another update, very soon, that
should fix the problem.

You can, manually, fix the problem, by creating the diskette(s) (most 
users will require the 2DISK option), and then copy 
x:\OS2\DLL\SESMGR.DLL to A:\OS2\DLL. I also, highly, recommend getting
LXLITE, and using the LX parameter, to compress the executables as the
disks are being created.

The BOOTOS2 diskettes will be customized to (mostly) match your 
system, while the Create utility Disks thing, makes a set that is 
similar to the OS/2 install diskettes (boot anywhere, and figure out 
what the configuration is, on the fly).

BOOTOS2, will also allow you to build a small, "maintenance" 
partition, with GUI support, REXX support etc. It has a LOT of good 
features, other than just building a set of boot diskettes.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     30-Oct-99 19:16:22
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: FP-11/12, Networking, TCP/IP & StarOffice

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:56:35, davidb@magicnet.net wrote:

..snip...
>  
> I haven't upgraded to FP12 (yet) and also haven't used Star Office that much 
yet but I am up to FP 11 and did have the same non connection problem.  I
found a solution by Network->Network Services->Lan Services
Admin->(Your)Domain->User Accounts->(Tab) Assignments you can set the
connections to become active.  Active is the operative word here.  I found no
help available and tried every setting I could everywhere until I did the
above.  I hope this helps.
>  
> David
>  
> davidb@magicnet.net
>  

FP12, StarOffice etc. has nothing to do with the problem, and the 
suggested "fix" *might* work on a real LAN server, but there is no 
such thing (that I have been able to get to) in a peer network. My 
"workaround", is to do the network logon, then run a batch (*.CMD) 
file, to do a NET USE to connect each of the resources.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: gmcleod@idirect.com                               30-Oct-99 19:25:14
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Looking for IBM CAD

From: "gordon mcleod" <gmcleod@idirect.com>

Look to purchase a used copy of IBM Cad fro OS2  (not IBM Cad3x)
thanks
Gordon McLeod
Toronto Canada


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From: whonea@codenet.net                                30-Oct-99 13:28:15
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:13
Subj: Re: FP-11/12, Networking, TCP/IP & StarOffice

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:09:29, "Andrew Grygus" <lists@aaxnet.com> 
wrote:

> So, to try to get to the bottom of this, we installed FixPack-12, 
> TCP/IP upgrade and Peer upgrade on two of the NET-2 machines.  
> >>>No autostart of connections<<<.  We deleted the shares and 
> connections and reestablished them.  No dice.  Still no 
> autoconnect -  >>>and no error messages saying "one or more of 
> your connections failed<<<.  We have to connect each one by 
> hand at both machines.  

That started with with the WR08410 Peer fixpak - and 8412 didn't help.
 It's not a FP12 problem.  I gave up and just did the connections in a
startup.cmd file.  Not a big issue, since restarts with NT and Solaris
servers in the net are problematic anyway so we've been usin startup 
.cmd for several years.  We had to do that with DB2 logons anyway so 
why not the rest of the connections?

If you can back the Peer fix level up to WR08407, your re-connects 
will reappear.

As for SO, the Sun ver. 5.1a (free, even for commercial use) has no 
problem with either nb/ip or straight nb on our mixed up domain.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            30-Oct-99 16:35:10
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <c1.2b8.2SkBW7$024@hamei.pacbell.net>, hamei@pacbell.net says...
>In <MPG.1283f101c073f314989a8a@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:
>>In article <7vbffl$63n$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, jwelton@my-deja.com says...
>>>It is very embarrassing because I live in the dorms and
>>>one of the very few OS/2 users.  I'm very proud of OS/2
>>>but I die a thousand deaths when a group of college buddies
>>>come in and ask me if I've got "such and such a movie" and
>>>why don't you just print out a list so we can pick and choose?
>>>
>>
>>Here is the real problem. An OS whether its OS/2, Windows, or Linux is a
hammer 
>>and as such is really nothing of which one should be 'very proud'. Unless,
of 
>>course, you worked on a piece of it. 
>>
>>An OS is a tool. Nothing more.
>
>you just think that way because you have a crummy hammer. Buy a good one 
>and you, too, could be proud of your tools.

No, I don't think that at all. My hammer allows me the use of more nails from 
far more nail makers. 
Only a fool would be proud of software he didn' write.



>
>>
>>-- 
>>---------------------------------------
>>David H. McCoy
>>dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
>>---------------------------------------
>
>
>Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder
>

-- 
---------------------------------------
David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
---------------------------------------

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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  30-Oct-99 17:35:24
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Byte.com worth looking at

From: mchasson@ibm.net

There is currently an excellent piece in byte.com on OS2 as well as a
review of Warpstock West.  The discussion may not suit all tastes but may
be close to reality.  That is if you can read the Big Blue Mind.


-- 
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
mchasson@ibm.net
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51 

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From: khalsa@attglobal.net                              30-Oct-99 18:47:24
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:09
Subj: NS 4.61 mail reader

From: Satnam Singh <khalsa@attglobal.net>

Minor annoyance: whenever I fire up the mail reader, it has to download
the Netcenter advertisement before checking for new messages.  Anyway to
disable this, or is this the price for a free Netscape for OS/2?

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From: lerner@cybernex.net                               30-Oct-99 19:31:05
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:09
Subj: MrFilePM5.3

From: Philip Lerner <lerner@cybernex.net>

I am looking for a copy of version 5.3 of MrFilePM. Does anyone know
where it is available?

Phil Lerner
lerner@cybernex.net

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From: la2gca@deleteme.c2i.net                           30-Oct-99 23:36:09
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Starting programs with KEY-shortcut?

From: la2gca@deleteme.c2i.net (Svein Sandersen)

Used to have Object Desktop installed, but decided to wait with this 
after installing from scratch.
What I am missing is the ability to just use some keyboard-keys to 
start programs. In OD2 I used CTRL-SHIFT-T to start my TSTHost 
communication program, and so on. What progs can do this other than 
OD?

Svein Sandersen

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
I am using OS/2 Warp 4 because it is the best alternative today

(Remove deleteme in address)

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From: centus@coqui.net                                  30-Oct-99 23:33:17
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: EscageGL 3.0 is cool I =registered= it!

From: centus@coqui.net

It is cool, I like it.

Edfel Rivera

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From: dholmes@trellis.net                               29-Oct-99 10:14:13
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: no database app in StarOffice

From: Dan Holmes <dholmes@trellis.net>

Jyri Ivask wrote:
> 
> Thomas Kellerer wrote:
> 
> > I
> > Have you tried StarOffice. It's free for personal use and comes with a
> > Database which is (so I have been told) much like Access.
> > If you don't mind downloading 72MB you can get StarOffice at
> > www.sun.com/staroffice.
> 
The fact that it is free really isn't important at this
point.  He already has SS/2.  If i paid for SS/2 (which i
did) i would be reluctant to switch.  I would want the one i
paid for to work.
-- 
-------------------
Dan Holmes
Integrated Visual Systems, Inc.
voice 704-847-3379
fax   704-847-4655
mailto:dholmes@trellis.net
work -> http://www.ivsi.com
play -> http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hollow/3097

Insert Disclaimer:
Most of the time i think for myself, at least that is what
they tell me.

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From: nitebird@voicenet.com                             29-Oct-99 10:46:03
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)

In <7vbffl$63n$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/29/99 
   at 06:39 AM, jwelton@my-deja.com said:

[...]

>:My problem with Approach has been trying to print out
>:various or special reports.  We've set up sort of a video club and
>:there are friends who ask for a list of all
>:mysteries or sports, etc.  Each and every time I try to
>:sort the full worksheet of all the records down to just
>:particular cateogories Approach freezes up solid on me.
>:It will take me days and a lot of luck to get one
>:specialized listing printed.

[...]

Yes. it would be nice if everything worked as expected.

I'm not a Notes user, but if faced with that sort of problem, I would:

1): Export records to a simple ASCII text file. If not possible during
the export process, insert tabs between fields using an external
resource.

2): Using your word processor, import the tab delimited records into a
table. The tabs will be used to separate fields. Once in the table, long
lines will wrap within each cell and you can sort by column.

An alternate to the above is to export by specifying "delimited ASCII"
which will genreate fields surrounded by double quotes, separated by
commas. Most spreadsheets will import this data and place each field in
a separate cell. Next, from within your spreadsheet, select all of your
data and copy it to the clipboard. Finally, paste the clipboard into a
waiting (already formatted) word processor table. Sorting and selection
is usually best done in the datbase, but the spreadsheet can also sort
and select, and the wordprocessor can sort.

I use Describe as my word processor and use the above process
extensively. I like to print nicely formatted lists of movies, CD, DVD's
that come from web sites. The process is started by selecting "Save as"
from the Netscape FILE menu and save the file as a *.TXT file. Netscape
will strip the HTML and leave reasonably formatted text. I'll then work
over the text file using a text editor (I use BRIEF, but EPM
[distributed with OS/2] will also work fine).

Programs such as PERL (free download) are very useful for this sort of
task if the text file format is consistent. There will be a bit of work
to set the thing up, but after the bugs are worked out, it could be a
"no hands" job to print a list.

I have a "no hands", single command job to generate a complete website,
based on a database export, with hundreds of interlinked, indexed pages.

-----------------------------------------------------------
nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)
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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 29-Oct-99 15:49:18
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:14
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: nospam@nospam.com

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:22:51, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> > Netscape 4.61:  The cache has started messing up in general just recently. 
 I've
> > cleared out both memory cache and disk cache, turned them off etc., but I
still
> > keep seeing web pages re-download over and over.
> 
> Try turning the caching back ON.
>
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> 
I'll take the opportunity to thank you and the IBM team for 
communicator 4.61. I'm not completely happy with it (drag and drop 
still works better with 2.02, which is also more stable), but it's a 
big leap forward from 4.04 and caching works *much* better than in 
2.02!:-) 

-
Magnus Olsson

"Nothing in the affairs of men is worthy of great anxiety."
 - Plato

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From: dink@dontspamme.com                               29-Oct-99 12:14:24
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: os2 cd!

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>

I got "OS/2 For Windows v2.10" CD and
a games CD with "Red Storm Rising" and
"F117-A Stealth Fighter" by creative labs
and microprose.  Both cds for the super deal
of only $10 (free shipping!)
these are just cds (the originals!), I dont
have any docs or anything else to go with
them.  I also have a ton of 1-meg simms
for real cheap, if you want anything just
e-mail me on http://dink.org/email

.. I'm just cleaning out my closet! =)

p.s. I don't even know if those 2 games will
work under OS/2 in a VDM because I've never tried
.. but they're for dos, so I dont see why not..
the "for Windows" thing on the os/2 cd just means
that it doesn't come with win-os2, if you want to
use win-os2, then you have to have win 3.1x allready
installed before installing it.  



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From: ivask@gi.ee                                       29-Oct-99 19:53:05
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: no database app in StarOffice

From: Jyri Ivask <ivask@gi.ee>


Kris Kadela wrote:

> From RMB menu New, Database, type in a name, click on Type and choose
> Access 97, Browse and select the Access file.
>

Thanks. I'll try it on monday.

Jri Ivask
ivask@gi.ee

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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      30-Oct-99 03:40:00
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 06:39:49, jwelton@my-deja.com wrote:
 
> My problem with Approach has been trying to print out
> various or special reports.  We've set up sort of a video
> club and there are friends who ask for a list of all
> mysteries or sports, etc.  Each and every time I try to
> sort the full worksheet of all the records down to just
> particular cateogories Approach freezes up solid on me.
> It will take me days and a lot of luck to get one
> specialized listing printed.

I wonder if anybody actually uses this program at IBM???

Any more then 100 records and the master list will freeze if you scroll down. 
This is the same if you do a sort.

When you print any list with more then 100 records it will not print as it
will 
also freeze with the same symptoms as I said before. CPU pegs at 100% nothing 
happens and you have to kill Approach.

What good is a database program with a limit of 100 records? :)





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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    29-Oct-99 18:57:21
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace?

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Robert Dohrenburg (rdohrenburg@hotmail.com) wrote:

: Is it possible that this program/utility is replacing bloated parts of
: the OS? I remember OD1.X and OD2.0 did the contrary and my system lost
: performance.

	I don't think it does, I didn't see anything getting copied into 
the X:\OS2\*.* directories when I tried it out...


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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 30-Oct-99 20:36:02
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>
spake unto us, saying:

>Here is the real problem. An OS whether its OS/2, Windows, or Linux
>is a hammer and as such is really nothing of which one should be
>'very proud'. Unless, of course, you worked on a piece of it.

Does the same thing apply in your world to cars and houses, David?  Or
to other material objects that owners are often proud of?

>An OS is a tool. Nothing more.

That is arguably not true, ex-Ominor.

Linux and OS/2 have both been regarded by many as symbols of freedom
from the tyranny of the majority in a software context.

They were and are rallying points for people who believe that mediocre
software solutions are not the best answer, or the final answer, simply
because those solutions are the most common solutions.

A flag is a piece of cloth and nothing more.  And yet thousands upon
thousands have died for such pieces of cloth during human history.

A world without beliefs is an empty world indeed, and a person who sees
everything simply as objects most live a very cold, empty life.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                                  Ni!

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 30-Oct-99 20:47:10
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>
spake unto us, saying:

>No, I don't think that at all. My hammer allows me the use of more
>nails from far more nail makers.

Is that a relevant capability if you don't need that many nails?

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           Press SPACEBAR once to quit or twice to save changes

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           31-Oct-99 02:08:17
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:47:21, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) 
wrote:

> Here in comp.os.os2.apps, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>
> spake unto us, saying:
> 
> >No, I don't think that at all. My hammer allows me the use of more
> >nails from far more nail makers.
> 
> Is that a relevant capability if you don't need that many nails?
> 

If your hammer keeps breaking the nails, you need
LOTS of nails

Lorne Sunley

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From: dariusz@mnsi.net                                  31-Oct-99 01:28:19
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:20
Subj: Re: Is this the way for hpfs386?

From: dariusz@mnsi.net (Dariusz Piatkowski)

Hi Everyone!

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 06:17:09, Lee Thoresen <74200.257@CompuServe.COM> 
wrote:

> I am using warp4 client system.  Also running are the cache386,
> hpfs386, and profiler files dated 6/11.  The commit_heuristics are
> all set to yes.  fixpack 12 and the danis thing are being used. 
> Any suggestions for improving?

What cache settings are you using?

My system is a 96Meg machine, K6-2-300, I run a 10Meg cache, with the 
following settings:

lazy       = *: ON
maxage = *: 30000 
bufferidle = *: 10000

Any suggestions for something better. This is a stand alone machine, 
Warp4...using typical desktop apps, news reader, a few instances of 
NS/2, email app, sometimes VA Java & C++.

-Dariusz

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From: trosnau@telusplanet.net                           31-Oct-99 02:47:20
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:20
Subj: Re: MrFilePM5.3

From: Tim Rosnau <trosnau@telusplanet.net>

I have version 5.2. Didn't know there was a newer one. Please let me
know if you find it.

Philip Lerner wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a copy of version 5.3 of MrFilePM. Does anyone know
> where it is available?
> 
> Phil Lerner
> lerner@cybernex.net

-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
to be able to love the mystery surrounding us
is the final and only sanction of human existence.
 - Hugh MacLennan, The Watch That Ends The Night 

Tim Rosnau
Edmonton AB Canada

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               30-Oct-99 23:17:16
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: BOOTOS2
BY: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

>Yes, it works very well (MUCH better than the Create utility disk 
>thing, although Fix Pack 12 seems to have introduced a problem, and 
>the new 9.25 version of BOOTOS2 is supposed to have a fix for that, 
>but it doesn't seem to work). I expect another update, very soon, that
>should fix the problem.
>You can, manually, fix the problem, by creating the diskette(s) (most 
>users will require the 2DISK option), and then copy 
>x:\OS2\DLL\SESMGR.DLL to A:\OS2\DLL. I also, highly, recommend getting
>LXLITE, and using the LX parameter, to compress the executables as the
>disks are being created.
>The BOOTOS2 diskettes will be customized to (mostly) match your 
>system, while the Create utility Disks thing, makes a set that is 
>similar to the OS/2 install diskettes (boot anywhere, and figure out 
>what the configuration is, on the fly).
>BOOTOS2, will also allow you to build a small, "maintenance" 
>partition, with GUI support, REXX support etc. It has a LOT of good 
>features, other than just building a set of boot diskettes.

any suggestions on the best format for the bootos2 formated zip?  Bootos2 has
3 different methods, PM, WPS & Minimal.  the docs aren't very clear on how to
create the minimal method.]

btw, is it a good idea to create a bootable fixpack Zip disk?

and should any bootos2 zip disk be listed in boot manager?


Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509


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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     31-Oct-99 06:01:24
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 mail reader

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

As documented in the Release Notes for the product:

user_pref("mailnews.start_page.enabled", false);

or

user_pref("mailnews.start_page.url", "whatever_URL_you_want");


Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


Satnam Singh wrote:

> Minor annoyance: whenever I fire up the mail reader, it has to download
> the Netcenter advertisement before checking for new messages.  Anyway to
> disable this, or is this the price for a free Netscape for OS/2?

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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            31-Oct-99 18:54:10
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <F05G4oHpv2ef092yn@visi.com>, rsteiner@visi.com says...
>Here in comp.os.os2.apps, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>Here is the real problem. An OS whether its OS/2, Windows, or Linux
>>is a hammer and as such is really nothing of which one should be
>>'very proud'. Unless, of course, you worked on a piece of it.
>
>Does the same thing apply in your world to cars and houses, David?  Or
>to other material objects that owners are often proud of?

I know of few people who are proud of their hammers and toasters. For most 
people, their homes and cars represent the first and second largest
investments 
of their lives. Owning a home is the essence of the American dream.

If one cannot see the difference between the emotions invoked by one's home
and 
one's choice of operating systems, perhaps one has never owned a home.

Or should seek help.

>>An OS is a tool. Nothing more.
>
>That is arguably not true, ex-Ominor.

Ominor was a diversion, Richard. Get over it. 

>Linux and OS/2 have both been regarded by many as symbols of freedom
>from the tyranny of the majority in a software context.

And many more see Linux as just a hammer. A tool to get a job done, and that 
belief has done more for Linux than your "tyranny" theory.

>They were and are rallying points for people who believe that mediocre
>software solutions are not the best answer, or the final answer, simply
>because those solutions are the most common solutions.
>
>A flag is a piece of cloth and nothing more.  And yet thousands upon
>thousands have died for such pieces of cloth during human history.

A flag is symbol of someone's country as well as a symbol of one's belief in 
one's country. You cheapen a such beliefs by even attempting to compare it to 
an OS.

>A world without beliefs is an empty world indeed, and a person who sees
>everything simply as objects most live a very cold, empty life.
>
>

A person who is very proud of an OS leads far more of an empty life. Perhaps 
some have lives that are so full that the OS hammer just isn't a big deal.

Others, it seems, are not so lucky.

-- 
---------------------------------------
David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            31-Oct-99 18:55:25
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <p+5G4oHpvemH092yn@visi.com>, rsteiner@visi.com says...
>Here in comp.os.os2.apps, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>No, I don't think that at all. My hammer allows me the use of more
>>nails from far more nail makers.
>
>Is that a relevant capability if you don't need that many nails?
>

One may need only ten nails, but one may prefer to have a wide selection from 
which to choose those ten.

-- 
---------------------------------------
David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
---------------------------------------

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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            31-Oct-99 18:59:26
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <381ca232$1$qnivfs$mr2ice@news.logical.net>, nemo@union.edu says...
>
>In <F05G4oHpv2ef092yn@visi.com>, on 10/30/99 
>   at 08:36 PM, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) said:
>
>
>>Does the same thing apply in your world to cars and houses, David?  Or to
>>other material objects that owners are often proud of?
>
>I one hundred percent agree with you on this - you posted on this a few
>days ago too, good post! -. These analogies according to which an
>operating system is nothing but a tool miss the point that an artisan can
>be proud of and take joy in material things, including his/her tools, and
>that even if he hasn't made the tools himself since, after all, he had the
>taste and the foresight to select them for their quality and even
>elegance.
>
>

One can take joy in using one's tools without feeling very proud of that tool. 

I used OS/2 for some time and enjoyed it. I switched to NT and enjoyed using 
it. 



-- 
---------------------------------------
David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
---------------------------------------

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From: davidb@magicnet.net                               01-Nov-99 00:15:03
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: FP-11/12, Networking, TCP/IP & StarOffice

From: davidb@magicnet.net

In <wtrgfbvnapfvpbz.fkh22o0.pminews@news.compuserve.com>, "John Getsoian"
<jgetsoian@csi.com> writes:
>On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:56:35 GMT, davidb@magicnet.net wrote:
>
>>I found a solution by Network->Network Services->Lan Services
Admin->(Your)Domain->User Accounts->(Tab) Assignments you can set the
connections to become active.
>
>David;
>
>Are you running warp server or did you install the extra
>administrative options when you installed peer? - I have no such
>objects in the network folder here. (FP10, 8407, 8610)
>
>
>regards;
>-john getsoian
>(jgetsoian@csi.com)
>
>
My apologies to all ...  I am running on a small Lan Server so I have LS
Administrator.

Oops ...  :-|

David

davidb@magicnet.net

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From: heafnerj@interpath.com                            31-Oct-99 20:05:22
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 mail reader

From: Joe Heafner <heafnerj@interpath.com>

Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:
> 
> Mirage Media wrote:
> 
> > Sorry I wasn't too clear. I've got the file "prefs.js". The problem is I
> > can't find "mailnews.start_page.enabled" or "mailnews.start_page.url"
> > within "prefs.js"
> 
> Sorry I wasn't too clear either.... any line that doesn't appear
> in prefs.js has the default setting (which in this case is "true"
> and the Netcenter URL).  To override the default setting, you
> add the line specified, with the value you want.  It will be put
> alphabetically in the file when it is written out at program
> close, but you don't necessarily have to add it in the correct
> alphabetical position.
> 
Aha......this explains a lot. You're the first person to clear this up
for ME too!

			Thank You!
-- 

                        -- Joe Heafner

Joe Heafner, Astronomy and Physics Instructor. Work:(828)327-7000 x4246
my surname with my first initial at interpath dot com
http://home.interpath.com/heafnerj/

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     31-Oct-99 16:26:23
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 mail reader

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Mirage Media wrote:

> This is supposed to be located in the file "prefs.js", right? If so,
> I've been unable to find it. Has it been moved, renamed or am I doing
> something real stupid? BTW, I've read the release notes.

The prefs.js file is stored in your user-profile directory.  You
could have specified a different directory when you created
your user profile, but the default would have been in
\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\USERS\yourname\

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: mirage@iae.nl                                     31-Oct-99 18:39:29
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 mail reader

From: Mirage Media <mirage@iae.nl>

Sorry I wasn't too clear. I've got the file "prefs.js". The problem is I
can't find "mailnews.start_page.enabled" or "mailnews.start_page.url"
within "prefs.js"
This is part of what I *do* have:

user_pref("mailnews.message_window_showwindow", 4);

user_pref("mailnews.profile_age", 13);

user_pref("mailnews.thread_window_rect", "59,65,929,680");

user_pref("mailnews.thread_window_showwindow", 4);


Shouldn't the "start_page" entry go between that of "profile" and
"thread_window_rect"?

Or show I create the entry?

Thanks,

Corey
Mirage Media
Nuenen, The Netherlands  


"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:
> 
> Mirage Media wrote:
> 
> > This is supposed to be located in the file "prefs.js", right? If so,
> > I've been unable to find it. Has it been moved, renamed or am I doing
> > something real stupid? BTW, I've read the release notes.
> 
> The prefs.js file is stored in your user-profile directory.  You
> could have specified a different directory when you created
> your user profile, but the default would have been in
> \NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\USERS\yourname\
> 
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     31-Oct-99 16:50:12
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:17:33, "Dilbert Firestorm" 
<wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:

> any suggestions on the best format for the bootos2 formated zip?  Bootos2
has
> 3 different methods, PM, WPS & Minimal.  the docs aren't very clear on how
to
> create the minimal method.]
>  
> btw, is it a good idea to create a bootable fixpack Zip disk?
>  
> and should any bootos2 zip disk be listed in boot manager?
>  
>  
> Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
>  

Sorry, I am not too clear on, exactly, what you are asking here?????

Minimal is the default, and installs enough of OS/2 to get it booted 
(usually, from diskettes), and make it useful. All you do is run 
BOOTOS2 (you will, probably, need the 2DISK parameter, since one 
diskette will not be big enough).

If, you are talking about using BOOTOS2 to create a bootable partition
on an IOMEGA ZIP drive, I don't know. I have the parallel port 
version, and I cannot boot from it. I don't know if there is any way 
to actually boot from an ATAPI, or SCSI ZIP drive.

I have, in the past, made a small bootable "maintenance" partition, on
my hard disk. All I did was use something like this:
================================
BOOTOS2 TARGET=E: TYPE=WPS REXX HELP SYSED VDM FORMAT:HPFS
================================
(all on one line, in case it wraps).

This gave me a bootable, HPFS E: partition (it was about 30 meg), with
WPS support, REXX support, HELP, the OS/2 System editor, and VDM 
support. I don't remember if this added itself to Boot manager, or if 
BOOTOS2 did it for me. If it doesn't, just use FDISK to add it to the 
Boot manager menu. The partition MUST be entirely within the first 
1023 cylinders of the drive, so that the BIOS can read from it (which 
is why I don't have my maintenance partition anymore).

I don't know what this will do with a ZIP drive. I suspect that it 
will work, if the drive is bootable. I also have no idea how, or if, 
Boot manager would handle that (Booting may need to be set up in the 
BIOS, if your BIOS will support it).

You don't need a bootable fix pack ZIP disk. I have been using a 
modified version of QF11 (look for QF11.ZIP, in the usual places), 
with a ZIP drive, for some time now. You just run the fix pack updates
from the normal system boot. If I end up in a situation where I cannot
boot the normal system, I boot from diskettes (which have the ZIP 
drive drivers), and switch to the ZIP drive to do the manual backout 
(actually, I haven't had to do this, yet). Of course, I always have a 
backup, just in case <g>.

You may find that you will want to experiment with some of the 
optione, to see what happens. You are just a FORMAT away from being 
back where you started (unless you relly mess up, when a backup might 
be required).

Hope this helps, and let us know what happens...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     31-Oct-99 17:50:12
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 mail reader

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Mirage Media wrote:

> Sorry I wasn't too clear. I've got the file "prefs.js". The problem is I
> can't find "mailnews.start_page.enabled" or "mailnews.start_page.url"
> within "prefs.js"

Sorry I wasn't too clear either.... any line that doesn't appear
in prefs.js has the default setting (which in this case is "true"
and the Netcenter URL).  To override the default setting, you
add the line specified, with the value you want.  It will be put
alphabetically in the file when it is written out at program
close, but you don't necessarily have to add it in the correct
alphabetical position.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              31-Oct-99 19:12:15
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: dummy account, and internet under os/2 w/ Q98

From: alan@min.net.notspam

In <TKPS3.10245$Q6.281307@news1.rdc2.tx.home.com>, on 10/31/99 
   at 04:40 AM, "Lila" <lila-919@NOSPAMexcite.com> said:

>You need to enter them as shares in and shares out if you do not want
>them to hit the cash account.

So I'd edit each transaction, and change Buy to Shares-in and Sell to
Shares-out?  That sounds easy.

I've discovered another problem -getting updates over the internet.  I've
tried going through both my cable modem and my not-dead-yet dialup
account, but I get the error message "Inet not running" before abort,
retry, ignore.  I'm using OS/2 as my OS, I have Internet Explorer 3.03
that came with Quicken 98, and this used to connect fine through quicken. 
I've tried connecting to the net before opening quicken, as the help
suggests, but the results are the same.

I crossposted this to an os/2 newsgroup, in case others are having similar
troubles.



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From: robert@rgoold.spamnot.freeserve....               31-Oct-99 19:09:22
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: Shutdown Doesn't

Message sender: robert@rgoold.spamnot.freeserve.co.uk

From: robert@rgoold.spamnot.freeserve.co.uk (Robert Goold)

On 27 Oct 1999 19:35:17 GMT, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug
Bissett) wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:56:36, mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) 
>wrote:
>
>> Shutdown, from either the WarpCenter icon or the desktop RMB2 list, 
>> only works about a third of the
>> time.  Is there a utility that does a better job?  Or what might be 
>> happening?
>> 
>> Michael Robertson
>> ***Live simply, that others may simply live.***
>
>What "might" be happening, is that you have a rogue program running, 
>that won't shut down when it should. You could, also, be fooled if you
>have a network running, since that seems to take up to a minute to get
>itself shut down, before the rest of the shutdown can complete. 
>
>When it "hangs", do Ctrl-Esc to get a window list. It might show you 
>what is still running, which might be a clue, or, it might tell you 
>that some program is not responding, which could be another clue.

On my system the culprit is usually the Acrobat Reader. I think it
only happens when it's been started from within Netscape 2.02. 
Once I close the reader the shutdown procedes normally.

Robert Goold

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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           31-Oct-99 19:28:08
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 questions

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

Michael Kaply (mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com) wrote:
: The scroll bar problem will be fixed in a refresh.

Nice to see someone's listening. 

On my machine, NS4.61 stops downloads if the desktop locks up, either as
a result of manual selection or on timed lockup. When the lockup is ended,
the download restarts. I presume this is a bug: will it be fixed too?

Ian

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From: mirage@iae.nl                                     31-Oct-99 21:36:06
  To: murdoctor@austin.rr.com                           31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 mail reader

To: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@austin.rr.com>
From: Mirage Media <mirage@iae.nl>

Thanks Jeffrey! That took care of the problem :^)

Corey
Mirage Media
Nuenen, The Netherlands



"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:
> 
> Mirage Media wrote:
> 
> > Sorry I wasn't too clear. I've got the file "prefs.js". The problem is I
> > can't find "mailnews.start_page.enabled" or "mailnews.start_page.url"
> > within "prefs.js"
> 
> Sorry I wasn't too clear either.... any line that doesn't appear
> in prefs.js has the default setting (which in this case is "true"
> and the Netcenter URL).  To override the default setting, you
> add the line specified, with the value you want.  It will be put
> alphabetically in the file when it is written out at program
> close, but you don't necessarily have to add it in the correct
> alphabetical position.
> 
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    31-Oct-99 15:05:28
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: nemo@union.edu

In <F05G4oHpv2ef092yn@visi.com>, on 10/30/99 
   at 08:36 PM, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) said:


>Does the same thing apply in your world to cars and houses, David?  Or to
>other material objects that owners are often proud of?

I one hundred percent agree with you on this - you posted on this a few
days ago too, good post! -. These analogies according to which an
operating system is nothing but a tool miss the point that an artisan can
be proud of and take joy in material things, including his/her tools, and
that even if he hasn't made the tools himself since, after all, he had the
taste and the foresight to select them for their quality and even
elegance.

>>An OS is a tool. Nothing more.

>That is arguably not true, ex-Ominor.

>Linux and OS/2 have both been regarded by many as symbols of freedom from
>the tyranny of the majority in a software context.

>They were and are rallying points for people who believe that mediocre
>software solutions are not the best answer, or the final answer, simply
>because those solutions are the most common solutions.

>A flag is a piece of cloth and nothing more.  And yet thousands upon
>thousands have died for such pieces of cloth during human history.

However, I'm not sure you want to say this. I don't know if anyone
sacrifices for 'a piece of cloth' but they might sacrifice life and limb
for freedom from tyranny for themselves and for those they care for.
Operating systems are not, of course, suitable objects of patriotism but
it is not unnatural for them to arouse strong feelings when one's
pleasures, ways of working and even livelihood, are at stake.

F.


-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           31-Oct-99 19:32:17
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: NS 4.61 and RAM Disk cache

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

As suggested here, I tried putting my NS disk cache on a RAM disk. Disk
r: is set up at startup, and NS is told that the disk cache path is R:\

Just two problems:

1) It never writes anything to cache

2) Every so often (three or four web pages or so) it grinds to a halt, using
   up 99+% of CPU until brutally killed.

So I reset the cache path to a physical disk and it's writing stuff and
not dying.

Any tips?

Ian


--
============================================================================

   Any opinions expressed are entirely my own and should not be taken as
  the official point of view of any organisation for or with which I work.

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From: DAMNSPAMMERSks@karicobs.com                       31-Oct-99 23:02:17
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: NS 4.61 and RAM Disk cache

From: DAMNSPAMMERSks@karicobs.com (ks@karicobs.com)

Sunday October 31 1999 19:32, Ian Johnston wrote to All:

 IJ> As suggested here, I tried putting my NS disk cache on a RAM disk.
 IJ> Disk r: is set up at startup, and NS is told that the disk cache 
 IJ> path
 IJ> is R:\

 IJ> Just two problems:

 IJ> 1) It never writes anything to cache

 IJ> 2) Every so often (three or four web pages or so) it grinds to a 
 IJ> halt,
 IJ> using
 IJ>    up 99+% of CPU until brutally killed.

I use RAMFS that way with *no* problems! :)

 KS


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From: nitebird@voicenet.com                             31-Oct-99 23:16:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Shutdown Doesn't

From: nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)

In <381c8da9.1016826@news.compuserve.com>, on 10/31/99 
   at 07:09 PM, robert@rgoold.spamnot.freeserve.co.uk (Robert Goold)
said:

>:On 27 Oct 1999 19:35:17 GMT, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug
>:Bissett) wrote:

>:>On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:56:36, mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) 
>:>wrote:
>:>
>:>> Shutdown, from either the WarpCenter icon or the desktop RMB2 list, 
>:>> only works about a third of the
>:>> time.  Is there a utility that does a better job?  Or what might be 
>:>> happening?
>:>> 
>:>> Michael Robertson
>:>> ***Live simply, that others may simply live.***
>:>
>:>What "might" be happening, is that you have a rogue program running, 
>:>that won't shut down when it should. You could, also, be fooled if you
>:>have a network running, since that seems to take up to a minute to get
>:>itself shut down, before the rest of the shutdown can complete. 
>:>
>:>When it "hangs", do Ctrl-Esc to get a window list. It might show you 
>:>what is still running, which might be a clue, or, it might tell you 
>:>that some program is not responding, which could be another clue.

>:On my system the culprit is usually the Acrobat Reader. I think it
>:only happens when it's been started from within Netscape 2.02.  Once I
>:close the reader the shutdown procedes normally.

On my system Netscape 2.02 would not shut down. v4.61 will shut down.

Also, some programs may want to ask the operator about a file that is
open. I have an Email client that will hold-up a shutdown.
Unfortunately, it will not ask for service, it will just ignore the
shutdown request while the system waits for the program to finish.

I've also noticed that OS/2 seems to want to flush the swap file before
shutting down. This could take a while, especially if a program (such as
Netscape 2.02) has a memory leak.

-----------------------------------------------------------
nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)
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From: nitebird@voicenet.com                             31-Oct-99 23:28:05
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Multiple operating systems on the same hardware

From: nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)

I'm curious about anyone's experience with multiple operating systems on
the same hardware. (only runing one at a time!)

What motherboard, video card, SCSI card have you used?

I'm interested in good and bad results.

It's time to upgrade my hardware and I'd like to try my hand at adding
BeOs and LINUX.

-----------------------------------------------------------
nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: judithr@primenet.com                              31-Oct-99 19:18:01
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Multiple operating systems on the same hardware

From: judithr@primenet.com

I've run OS/2 with NeXT, now have it with Linux and NT.  Generally
Matrox video cards. ASUS mboards, Adaptec SCSI or the ones that
comes with good scanners and CD burners -- AdvanSys and ??.  3Com
ethernet cards. Never had a hardware problem.  Never bought a
WinModem or WinPrinter.  Always checked that the hardware would work
with OS/2 before buying it. If it worked with OS/2, it probably
worked with the others. 


>I'm curious about anyone's experience with multiple operating
>systems on the same hardware. (only runing one at a time!)

>What motherboard, video card, SCSI card have you used?

>I'm interested in good and bad results.

>It's time to upgrade my hardware and I'd like to try my hand at
>adding BeOs and LINUX.

>-----------------------------------------------------------
>nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)
>-----------------------------------------------------------



Judith Russell       
judithr@primenet.com                    
Saugus Web Coordinator
http://www.hart.k12.ca.us/saugus



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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          01-Nov-99 15:31:23
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Multiple operating systems on the same hardware

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:28:11 -0500, Barry Mann wrote:

:>I'm curious about anyone's experience with multiple operating systems on
:>the same hardware. (only runing one at a time!)
:>
:>What motherboard, video card, SCSI card have you used?
:>
:>I'm interested in good and bad results.
:>
:>It's time to upgrade my hardware and I'd like to try my hand at adding
:>BeOs and LINUX.
:>
:>-----------------------------------------------------------
:>nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)
:>-----------------------------------------------------------
:>

I'm running a Celery 400 on an AOpen AX6BC Type R M/b
with 128 Mb RAM. I'm using my old SoundBlaster 16 PnP,
a 4x Mitsumi  CD-ROM, a 44x  CD-ROM (Cyber-Drive. I've
never heard of them but they had OS/2 Warp on the box!) ,
a Seagate 8.4Gb EIDE H/d and a Matrox G400 single head
video card. 

I chose the AOpen for the price and that it has two ISA slots.
One for the S/b and one for my modem card. This will soon
be replaced by an external one and I might put back the ISA
LAN card (Realtek)and network to my kids P133.

I've a 1Gb primary (C:) for NT-4, a 500Mb primary (C:) for OS/2
system, a 1Gb logical for BeOS, a 1Gb FAT to share stuff
between the 3 OSs and the remainder of the disk are HPFS
partitions for OS/2 programs and files (After all, it is my main
OS!)

My monitor is a no-name 17" with refresh rates up to 120Hz. I'm
running it at 1024x768@85hz at 16m colours. I also have a 
Hauppauge TV card which I can not get to work at all in OS/2. 
I can't get the GRADD drivers to work either to use it. It works out
of the box with the BeOS, no fiddling required. A little fiddling is 
needed to use it in NT. I had to manually add the tuner frequencies
as autoscan only got half of them.

This setup works great with all systems but the G400 isn't yet
supported by BeOS. I've heard that it will be in the next release.

I tried installing RedHat 6.0 on this and downloaded the files
needed to update XFree 86 for the G400. I never got a decent
screen. It was always offset and I couldn't get it to change the
refresh rates. I think I'll wait till RedHat 20. A lot of fiddling needed
there but I've not the patience to do it. Also the sndconfig utilty is
broken in 6.0. I couldn't get it to write a config file. It bombed out 
each time with some error.

Hope this helps you in your quest.

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 01-Nov-99 02:12:07
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>
spake unto us, saying:

>In article <p+5G4oHpvemH092yn@visi.com>, rsteiner@visi.com says...
>
>>Here in comp.os.os2.apps, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>
>>spake unto us, saying:
>>
>>>No, I don't think that at all. My hammer allows me the use of more
>>>nails from far more nail makers.
>>
>>Is that a relevant capability if you don't need that many nails?
>
>One may need only ten nails, but one may prefer to have a wide selection
>from which to choose those ten.

I don't deny that having a choice of nails is an advantage.  :-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                BS (bee ess): n. An uninformed statement.

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 01-Nov-99 02:28:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>
spake unto us, saying:

>>>An OS is a tool. Nothing more.
>>
>>That is arguably not true, ex-Ominor.
>
>Ominor was a diversion, Richard. Get over it.

Why?  You pushed the Ominor persona in our faces often enough back when
you were a card carrying member of the OS/2 crowd.

Isn't turnabout fair play in this instance?

I'm having fun as well, admittedly a bit at your expense, but I'm not
the one who has chosen for you to participate here, either.  Don't get
me wrong -- you're welcome here, but I can't help but wonder why you
stick around the OS/2 forums when you don't use OS/2 anymore and seem
to have totally bought into the Windows way of doing things.

Wouldn't the Windows newsgroups be a bit more constructive for you?

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
              Hey, didn't we go to different high schools?

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From: mc6530@mclink.it                                  01-Nov-99 09:02:20
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: gnupatch woes

From: mc6530@mclink.it (Yuri Dario)

Hi,


there is a bug in gnu patch, because unix allow to delete&rename a 
file, while under OS/2 it is not possible.
You could apply such patch to sources and compile again:

--- D:\tmp\util.c       Sun Jan 18 12:23:36 1998
+++ util.c      Thu Mar 12 18:28:46 1998
@@ -152,6 +152,7 @@
       if (debug & 4)
        say ("renaming `%s' to `%s'\n", from, to);

+      remove( to);
       if (rename (from, to) != 0)
        {
          int to_dir_known_to_exist = 0;


Bye,

	Yuri Dario

/*
 * member of TeamOS/2 - Italy
 * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri
 */

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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                01-Nov-99 00:20:25
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-7m5EuZlijK2g@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net
(Doug Bissett) writes:
>the new 9.25 version of BOOTOS2 is supposed to have a fix for that, 
>but it doesn't seem to work). I expect another update, very soon, that
>should fix the problem.

Have it on good authority, do you <g>?

Anyhow, new release (v9.26) on my FTP site should resolve this problem

  ftp://p390.ibm.com/customer/kak/bootos2.zip

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 (Author)

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From: d.fritz@t-online.de                               01-Nov-99 10:10:26
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:08
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 and RAM Disk cache

From: Dieter Fritz <d.fritz@t-online.de>

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> 
> As suggested here, I tried putting my NS disk cache on a RAM disk. Disk
> r: is set up at startup, and NS is told that the disk cache path is R:\
> 
> Just two problems:

I used RAMFS like this with no problems...


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From: pierre.milcent@free.fr                            01-Nov-99 10:06:11
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:23
Subj: Re: Starting programs with KEY-shortcut?

From: pierre.milcent@free.fr (Pierre Milcent)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:36:19, la2gca@deleteme.c2i.net (Svein 
Sandersen) wrote:

> Used to have Object Desktop installed, but decided to wait with this 
> after installing from scratch.
> What I am missing is the ability to just use some keyboard-keys to 
> start programs. In OD2 I used CTRL-SHIFT-T to start my TSTHost 
> communication program, and so on. What progs can do this other than 
> OD?
> 
> Svein Sandersen
> 
> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
> I am using OS/2 Warp 4 because it is the best alternative today
> 
> (Remove deleteme in address)

You should Try KbdPlus. It does it very well. Look in Hobbes.nmsu.edu 
for the zip file.

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      01-Nov-99 03:21:10
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:24
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 and RAM Disk cache

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <7vi5gi$6n7$4@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)
writes:

>As suggested here, I tried putting my NS disk cache on a RAM disk. 

But why?  Why not just set your memory cache value higher?

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      01-Nov-99 03:22:27
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:24
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <MPG.1286a2012dd35a4a989a8f@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:

>One can take joy in using one's tools without feeling very proud of that
tool. 
>I used OS/2 for some time and enjoyed it. I switched to NT and enjoyed using 
>it. 

That's nice.  So why exactly are you here?

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: john.makepeace@ibm.net                            01-Nov-99 12:31:24
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:24
Subj: Encyclopedia Britannica 2.0 -- Does it Work Under OS/2?

From: john.makepeace@ibm.net (John Makepeace)

Does anyone know if Encyclopedia Britannica 2.0 works under OS/2?  I 
can't get it to work.  Installs fine, but when you try to use it, it 
comes up with an error: "unable to process command -- get in contact 
with customer service." 

Thanks.

P.S. EB 2.0 requires a dongle, and I have it attached.


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From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void                      01-Nov-99 01:00:21
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:24
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman)

>On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 06:39:49 GMT, jwelton@my-deja.com wrote:

>Sorry if I rambled on.  I struggled tonight trying to print out
>a list of horror movies (Halloween in the dorms) and was shown
>up by some weeny across campus using ACCESS and Win95!  I've got
>better movies but I can't prove it with a print out! :-(

Sorry, I haven't followed the full thread on this.  Just curious if you
have applied the version 1.1.1 fix to Approach?  

I have not created anything here that could be considered a "large"
database, but what I have created works extremely well on v.1.1.1.

Sander Nyman

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From: bill.m@no.spam.net                                01-Nov-99 13:09:18
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 10:23:24
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 and RAM Disk cache

From: bill.m@no.spam.net

In <941392794@karicobs.com>, on 10/31/99 
   at 11:02 PM, DAMNSPAMMERSks@karicobs.com (ks@karicobs.com) said:


>I use RAMFS that way with *no* problems! :)

What is RAMFS?

Have a good one!

wmmorrow (at) flash (dot) net 
 All opinion expressed are my own - no one else believes them.


Bill M.

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From: cb@lim.nl                                         01-Nov-99 14:19:14
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: Starting programs with KEY-shortcut?

From: Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>

In <GrUJGy6bNnzY-pn2-pdnKVdRnd5TY@localhost>, on 10/30/99 
   at 11:36 PM, la2gca@deleteme.c2i.net (Svein Sandersen) said:

> What progs can do this other than 
> OD?

Blanker 6.0 also has a nice keyboard launch facility. Also on Hobbes....

-- 
  Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>
  Amsterdam
  http://www.lim.nl


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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               01-Nov-99 09:42:18
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <7vimd3$10cm$1@poknews.pok.ibm.com>, on 11/01/99 
   at 12:20 AM, kenkahn@us.ibm.com said:

Has BootOS2 been modified so you can create a bootable image on an LS-120
drive installed as the A drive and actually boot from it yet?  There seems
to be some hard coding which limits A drive to 1.44 MEG when trying to
write to LS-120...and of course it won't boot from it when all other OS'S
I have will.

Roland

>In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-7m5EuZlijK2g@localhost>,
>doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) writes: >the new 9.25
>version of BOOTOS2 is supposed to have a fix for that,  >but it doesn't
>seem to work). I expect another update, very soon, that >should fix the
>problem.

>Have it on good authority, do you <g>?

>Anyhow, new release (v9.26) on my FTP site should resolve this problem

>  ftp://p390.ibm.com/customer/kak/bootos2.zip

>Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 (Author)
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From: nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net                      01-Nov-99 06:27:19
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia Britannica 2.0 -- Does it Work Under OS/2?

From: "Nick Danger" <nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net>

On 1 Nov 1999 12:31:49 GMT, John Makepeace wrote:

> Does anyone know if Encyclopedia Britannica 2.0 works under OS/2?

Does it matter? They intend to make it work under Netscape... for free.
In fact they already announced it was ready, but the site was so
jammed, so fast, that they've had to pull it back and await the
arrival of bigger servers.

http://www.britannica.com


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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      01-Nov-99 16:16:15
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:20
Subj: Re: Starting programs with KEY-shortcut?

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <381d9389$1$po$mr2ice@news.a2000.nl>, Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl> writes:

>In <GrUJGy6bNnzY-pn2-pdnKVdRnd5TY@localhost>, on 10/30/99 
>   at 11:36 PM, la2gca@deleteme.c2i.net (Svein Sandersen) said:
>
>> What progs can do this other than 
>> OD?
>
>Blanker 6.0 also has a nice keyboard launch facility. Also on Hobbes....

As does one of my favorite WPS extensions: feelx
Also on hobbes.  Feelx offers a lot of functionality and 
configurability.  Even though it hasn't been updated since 1994 I
can't imagine running my system without it.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     01-Nov-99 17:52:05
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:20:51, kenkahn@us.ibm.com wrote:

> Have it on good authority, do you <g>?
>  

Just expecting you to continue the "good track record". I WAS a little
disappointed that you "missed" with 9.25 <g>.

I have downloaded 9.26, but I have not tried it, yet.

Thanks, and keep up the good work...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           01-Nov-99 12:51:04
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA on WSeB and german Umlauts: Font Problem

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Are you using an S3 video card?

It sounds like 1004 isn't working at all.

Try switching to GRADD just to see if the problem is fixed or get the latest
S3 driver.

Mike Kaply
IBM

Johannes Hromadka wrote:

>Hi:
>
>I'm running NS 4.61 GA on Warp Server f. eBuisiness. Setup with Locale
>DE_AT and codepages 437 and 1004.
>
>Every Pages with national characters, german Umlauts , displays the
>national characters wrong when I use an Adobe Type 1 Font.
>
>If I use TT Fonts the national characters display correct.
>
>But, since the rendering of TT Fonts is some kind of ugly compared to
>the rendering of Type 1 Fonts I would like to use the Type 1 Fonts.
>
>Any hints, where the setting is hidden to get Adobe Type 1 Fonts display
>the correct characters in above configuration ?
>
>        Greetings from Vienna
>
>             Hannes

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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           01-Nov-99 12:52:23
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

We did fix the trap. We are trying to get it out as soon as possible.

Mike Kaply
IBM

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From: n5x@psu.edu                                       01-Nov-99 13:03:08
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: "James C. Mankin" <n5x@psu.edu>

Since there has been a lot of discussion of bootos2 lately,   I have a
question. ...     I  used bootos2 to make a command line only  bootable hard
disk partion to use for backing up my system.   It works
very well except that when I'm finished backing up the system there seems to
be no way other than cycling power to reboot the machine.
C-A-D doesnt work .    Should it, or is there another way I havent
discovered.     Thanks   Jim  n5x@psu.edu



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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           01-Nov-99 12:55:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 questions

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

As far as problem 1, what version of OS/2 are you using? I don't see
this problem where the selection bar doesn't get erased.

Problem 2 is same as Windows for now.

Problem 3 should work a little better in a refresh due to a thread
problem, but we are still looking.

Mike Kaply
INM

Nenad Milenkovic wrote:

>  Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> The scroll bar problem will be fixed in a refresh.
>
>Nice. Please consider the following also:
>
>1. In "Edit Bookmarks" window, pressing "End" will work
>   as it should, but the selection bar will not be erased
>   from the first entry.
>
>2. When Navigator is waiting for user to respond to
>   authorization (user/password) prompt, everything
>   else stops - downloading, loading of pages, network
>   traffic... Not so convinient.
>
>3. Very often NS just stalls when you tell it to reload page,
>   reading 20 or 120 bytes, then stopping for no apparent reason,
>   only to continiue and finish loading after 10 or 20 seconds.
>
>Nenad
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                01-Nov-99 13:19:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com>

yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote:

> Has BootOS2 been modified so you can create a bootable image on an LS-120
> drive installed as the A drive and actually boot from it yet?  There seems
> to be some hard coding which limits A drive to 1.44 MEG when trying to
> write to LS-120...and of course it won't boot from it when all other OS'S
> I have will.

There's nothing in the code that limits A to 1.44MB; in fact you can easily
create a
single
2.88MB boot disk if you have a 2.88 drive.  What exactly happens when you try
to
create
a boot system on A when it's a LS-120?

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)

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From: swsnyder@home.com                                 01-Nov-99 18:40:14
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: "Steve Snyder" <swsnyder@home.com>

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:03:16 -0800, James C. Mankin wrote:

>Since there has been a lot of discussion of bootos2 lately,   I have a
>question. ...     I  used bootos2 to make a command line only  bootable hard
>disk partion to use for backing up my system.   It works
>very well except that when I'm finished backing up the system there seems to
>be no way other than cycling power to reboot the machine.
>C-A-D doesnt work .    Should it, or is there another way I havent
>discovered.     Thanks   Jim  n5x@psu.edu

I doubt your problem is BootOS2-specific.  

I use v9.20 to create a text-mode-only bootable LS-120 (aka SuperDisk)
disk.  After booting from that disk I can reboot via C-A-D every time.


***** Steve Snyder *****



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From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net                 01-Nov-99 10:50:17
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net

In <7vkkkn$1bs8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>, on 11/01/99 
   at 01:03 PM, "James C. Mankin" <n5x@psu.edu> said:

>Since there has been a lot of discussion of bootos2 lately,   I have a
>question. ...     I  used bootos2 to make a command line only  bootable
>hard disk partion to use for backing up my system.   It works
>very well except that when I'm finished backing up the system there seems
>to be no way other than cycling power to reboot the machine.
>C-A-D doesnt work .    Should it, or is there another way I havent

You would not happen to run Process Commander, would you?  I don't know if
Ken's put any special code in, but in the past, BOOTOS2 would copy PC's
keyboard driver.  This changes reboot to Ctrl-Alt-Esc.

HTH,

Steven


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From: rocks@nmsu.edu                                    01-Nov-99 14:59:28
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 19:58:09
Subj: multifunction printers

From: David Rocks <rocks@nmsu.edu>

    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?

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From: nenad@my-deja.com                                 01-Nov-99 22:47:25
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 19:58:09
Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 questions

From: Nenad Milenkovic <nenad@my-deja.com>

  Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:

> As far as problem 1, what version of OS/2 are you using? I don't see
> this problem where the selection bar doesn't get erased.

I am unable to reproduce the problem now. I'll investigate little
futher and report if I find out something.

Thank you for your answers.

Nenad


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: sruli87202@aol.com                                01-Nov-99 23:12:00
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 19:58:09
Subj: OS/2 Boot disks with Iomega Jazz drives

From: sruli87202@aol.com (SRuli87202)

Can somebody please help me out here?  I am trying to create a set of OS\2
boot
disks that can access my Iomega 1GB Jazz drive.  

My normal OS\2 setup on my hard drive already has the ability to access this
drive.  The only thing that I had to do to accomplish that was to install
fixpack 8 on my PC.  Unfortunately, there is no way that I know of to install
a
fixpack on a set of boot disks.

At this point I have been able to figure out that I need at least these two
files on the second boot disk to be able to access the designated drive form
that drive:
     IBMATAPI.FLT
     ASC.ADD
The lines in my config.sys file read as follows:
	basedev=IBMATAPI.FLT;
	basedev=asc.add;

When I looked in my config.sys file for my regular setup, I could not find any
reference to a SCSI device driver so I assume that the fix pack must also have
taken care of that.

At this point I am able to boot off of these disks and I can actually point to
the drive letter for the jazz drive but when I try to do a directory listing
for it, it gives me an error message that say 
	SYS0026: The specified disk or diskette cannot be accessed.

I should also mention that the jazz drive is formatted as an HPFS partition.

So here's my question.  How can I modify the boot disks so I can actually
access the files on this drive?

Any help that I could get on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
Steven Rulison


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From: DrWho@tardis.org                                  01-Nov-99 23:59:06
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: About Tool Pride

From: DrWho@tardis.org (Pete)

Admittedly this post is not OS/2 specific, however I did notice in 
another thread the question of "tools," and attaching "Pride" to them.

I'm not a computer jockey, per se.  It's a *hobby* of mine.  To bring 
home the bacon, I'm a tile mason.

In both my hobby and working world I've chosen the best tools for the 
job. When I set a floor in wetbed, build a 5x3 foot shower with 
Perfectly plumb walls all in marble - or even ceramic - I'm able to do
so with good tools.  Not just "the tool that'll do," but the best 
tools I can find.  Then, when I show the home-owner their new shower, 
every joint neatly lined up, not one square out of line, I take pride 
in my tools.

If I didn't have quality tools to do the quality job, it's doubtful 
i'd see that customer absolutely *beaming.*

That's where tool pride comes in. Knowing that *I* carefully 
considered all the options before making a decision that will affect 
my work.

The same is with my operating system.

I carefully considered windows.  Currently I even have an 
win(lose?)-98 partition, only because It shipped w/ my new computer.

But, to do what I want, I *still* choose OS/2.:

	It co-exists w/ other OS's nicely:
	I can test out linux, and BeOS, and retain a common, multitasking, 
stable OS with a variety of software (os/2 AND win 3.1) that does 
everything I need.
	It's hardware requirements insure I get the most out of my processor.
I mean, come on, WINMODEMs????? No wonder I need so much cooling fans.

	Best of all, when I decide to chat (mIRC for win3.1) I can gloat when
people type "be right back, I gotta reboot."

And THAT, my friends, is how someone can take pride in their tools. 

Have a nice day, 
Pete
		

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From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi...               02-Nov-99 00:30:20
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca

From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:22:55, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John 
Thompson) a crit:

> In <MPG.1286a2012dd35a4a989a8f@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:
> 
> >One can take joy in using one's tools without feeling very proud of that
tool. 
> >I used OS/2 for some time and enjoyed it. I switched to NT and enjoyed
using 
> >it. 
> 
> That's nice.  So why exactly are you here?

	Well, he said he "enjoyED" NT.  Maybe, he wants to switch again?  ;-)

Salut,

	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
	ICQ #13376913
	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: camilla@primenet.com                              02-Nov-99 00:48:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Need new tape backup

From: Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)

I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
often.  (Long history of failures here).

I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. 
Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



-------------------------------------------------------------
"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
                   that your brain falls out"

                    Camilla Cracchiolo
                     Registered Nurse
                  Los Angeles, California 
                          USA

camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla


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From: mmahoney@eoni.com                                 01-Nov-99 22:58:04
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 05:18:28
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: Michael Mahoney <mmahoney@eoni.com>

David Rocks wrote:
> 
>     I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
> that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?



Something for you to consider:

If any function of a multifunction device fails you will probably
lose ALL functions.

Michael

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From: tgalley@pironet.com                               02-Nov-99 11:35:06
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: OS/2 Boot disks with Iomega Jazz drives

From: Thomas Galley <tgalley@pironet.com>

Hey!

Perhaps you should look again, as I have difficulties to imagine, how
your system's SCSI card can be accessed without a valid driver...

What SCSI card are you using, anyway?

Perhaps, if you posted your CONFIG.SYS, I could take a look at it
myself, as I would be glad to help you. And what is this ASC.add? Never
heard of it...

Greetings/2

Thomas

SRuli87202 wrote:
 
> When I looked in my config.sys file for my regular setup, I could not find
any
> reference to a SCSI device driver so I assume that the fix pack must also
have
> taken care of that.
>

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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr                            02-Nov-99 11:12:11
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia Britannica 2.0 -- Does it Work Under OS/2?

From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 06:27:38 -0800 (PST), Nick Danger
<nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net> wrote:
>On 1 Nov 1999 12:31:49 GMT, John Makepeace wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if Encyclopedia Britannica 2.0 works under OS/2?
>
>Does it matter? They intend to make it work under Netscape... for free.
>In fact they already announced it was ready, but the site was so
>jammed, so fast, that they've had to pull it back and await the arrival
>of bigger servers.
>
>http://www.britannica.com

Yep, it matters when ever I am offline. I don't like jamming my phone
line all the time, but find myself using the DUX book shelf very often.
If it's there, you'll use it. If I have to go online all the time I'll
use it much less. Alas. 

 Cheese,
          Stefan


-- 
=========================================================================
Stefan A. Deutscher                       | (+33-(0)1)   voice      fax
Laboratoire des Collisions Atomiques et   | LCAM :  6915-7699  6915-7671
Mol\'{e}culaires (LCAM), B\^{a}timent 351 | home :  5624-0992  call first
Universit\'{e} de Paris-Sud               | email:  sad@utk.edu 
91405 Orsay Cedex, France (Europe)        |         (forwarded to France)
=========================================================================
 Do you know what they call a quarter-pounder with cheese in Paris?

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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr                            02-Nov-99 11:14:12
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia Britannica 2.0 -- Does it Work Under OS/2?

From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 06:27:38 -0800 (PST), Nick Danger
<nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net> wrote:
>On 1 Nov 1999 12:31:49 GMT, John Makepeace wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if Encyclopedia Britannica 2.0 works under OS/2?
>
>Does it matter? They intend to make it work under Netscape... for free.
>In fact they already announced it was ready, but the site was so
>jammed, so fast, that they've had to pull it back and await the arrival
>of bigger servers.
>
>http://www.britannica.com

Yep, it matters when ever I am offline. I don't like jamming my phone
line all the time, but find myself using the DUX book shelf very often.
If it's there, you'll use it. If I have to go online all the time I'll
use it much less. Alas. 

 Cheese,
           Stefan


-- 
=========================================================================
Stefan A. Deutscher                       | (+33-(0)1)   voice      fax
Laboratoire des Collisions Atomiques et   | LCAM :  6915-7699  6915-7671
Mol\'{e}culaires (LCAM), B\^{a}timent 351 | home :  5624-0992  call first
Universit\'{e} de Paris-Sud               | email:  sad@utk.edu 
91405 Orsay Cedex, France (Europe)        |         (forwarded to France)
=========================================================================
 Do you know what they call a quarter-pounder with cheese in Paris?

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From: Johannes.Hromadka@siemens.at                      02-Nov-99 13:40:08
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA on WSeB and german Umlauts: Font Problem

From: Johannes Hromadka <Johannes.Hromadka@siemens.at>

Michael Kaply wrote:
> 
> Are you using an S3 video card?

Yes, It's an IBM 300PL with the onboard Trio 3D.

I'm still using the driver from the driver disk shipped with the PC
(Version 2.1, if I rember correct)
 
> It sounds like 1004 isn't working at all.

1004 works, at least in EPM using System VIO Font.

It also works with the TrueType fonts, but not with the ATM Fonts in
Netscape 4.61GA (US english version)
 
> Try switching to GRADD just to see if the problem is fixed or get the latest
> S3 driver.

I'll try it.

I'll also make some tests to see if any ATM font works with PM
Applications in codepage 1004.

But can you give me some detailed information, about the new locale
settings and how they affect applications ?

Or a pointer, where I should start reading.

I switched from 437 to 1004 in the setting notebook of Netscape, but
could not see a difference.



       Greetings from Vienna

             Hannes

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From: Johannes.Hromadka@siemens.at                      02-Nov-99 13:47:10
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 10:31:21
Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA on WSeB and german Umlauts: Font Problem

From: Johannes Hromadka <Johannes.Hromadka@siemens.at>

hamei@pacbell.net wrote:
> 
 
> are you opening your Netscape session in codepage 1004 ?  just for fun,
> go to a command line, do "chcp 1004" then start Netscape from that
> command line window. In my experience, "locale-aware" apps have to

I tried setting it to Cp 1004 via the locale in the Setting notebook for
NS, made no difference.

> be running *in the correct code page* to be "locale-aware."   Don't get
> me started on this, it is an AWFUL system !

Yes, but which one is the right setting for a webbrowser which can use
many different encodings ?

Need to know more about the new locales in WSeB 4.5. Where to start
reading ?

 
> also, are you using the Freetype/2 TTF driver, or the one that came
> with WSeB ? The freetype driver looks a lot better to me. I think
> it is at Hobbes and other fine OS/2 Emporia.

Tried both. Freetype renders better than the IBM TT driver, But its
still a far cry from that what Type Manager does.

Experienced some bad line spacing using Freetype with some Times Roman
TT Fonts. 


	Greetings from Vienna		

		Hannes

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From: b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov                          02-Nov-99 08:45:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: Bennie Nelson <b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov>

Is the awget.cfg file in the correct MPTN directory (d:\MPTN\ETC)?  Also,
you may need to alter a parameter or two from the defaults.  I have this
running on a PC directly connected to the Internet and another that uses
a dialer.  The parameter listed below had to be changed for one of them
(I think it was the one using the dialer, but I'm not sure).  This example
is for direct connection.

check_connection = 0

Have you installed wget in the same directory as awget?

Regards,
Bennie Nelson

Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> Hey you guys!
> 
> What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, daemon is
> running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing... wget
is
> never called, etc...
> 
> I tried setting it up to look for new links in the todo folder... did the
> reboot thing... still nada...
> 
> I'm using Comm/2 4.61ga, Warp 3.0 FP#40, awget 1.5.1.2 off of Hobbes and
wget
> 1.53...
> 
> Anyone know the magic? :')
> 
> Yes... I'm waiting WELL past the 30second sleep period... ;')
> 
> --
> 
>
*******************************************************************************

> *            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...           
 *
> *       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at:      
 *
> *                     http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx                    
 *
>
*******************************************************************************

> 
> /----------------------------------------\
> | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride |
> |         mcbrides@erols.com             |
> \----------------------------------------/
> 
> --

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From: bandyo@wam.umd.edu                                02-Nov-99 09:27:13
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu>

Warp 3 handles URL differently than Warp 4.  As a result, when you 
drag a link to desktop or anywhere else, you get a communicator 
program object in Warp 3, and an URL object in Warp 4. AWGET can only 
handle the latter.  

Try this instead.  Copy the link by right clicking and choosing copy.  
Now click on the ADD URL icon in AWGET folder and paste the URL in the 
resulting dialog.

YMMV

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 11-2-99, 4:10:26 AM, mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote 
regarding AWGET?:


> Hey you guys!

> What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, 
daemon is
> running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing... 
wget is
> never called, etc...

> I tried setting it up to look for new links in the todo folder... did 
the
> reboot thing... still nada...

> I'm using Comm/2 4.61ga, Warp 3.0 FP#40, awget 1.5.1.2 off of Hobbes 
and wget
> 1.53...

> Anyone know the magic? :')

> Yes... I'm waiting WELL past the 30second sleep period... ;')



> --

> 
***********************************************************************
********
> *            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...     
       *
> *       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project 
at:       *
> *                     http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx              
       *
> 
***********************************************************************
********

> /----------------------------------------\
> | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride |
> |         mcbrides@erols.com             |
> \----------------------------------------/

> --



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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  02-Nov-99 14:37:25
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA on WSeB and german Umlauts: Font Problem

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

Please excuse me, I came in in the middle, and may be missing the point 
totally.

Have you pulled down the View>Character_Set menu, and chosen an appropriate
character-set mapping? If there is no appropriate mapping, you should go to
the Settings and install one.

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:40:17, Johannes Hromadka 
<Johannes.Hromadka@siemens.at> wrote:

> Michael Kaply wrote:
> > 
> > Are you using an S3 video card?
> 
> Yes, It's an IBM 300PL with the onboard Trio 3D.
> 
> I'm still using the driver from the driver disk shipped with the PC
> (Version 2.1, if I rember correct)
>  
> > It sounds like 1004 isn't working at all.
> 
> 1004 works, at least in EPM using System VIO Font.
> 
> It also works with the TrueType fonts, but not with the ATM Fonts in
> Netscape 4.61GA (US english version)
>  
> > Try switching to GRADD just to see if the problem is fixed or get the
latest
> > S3 driver.
> 
> I'll try it.
> 
> I'll also make some tests to see if any ATM font works with PM
> Applications in codepage 1004.
> 
> But can you give me some detailed information, about the new locale
> settings and how they affect applications ?
> 
> Or a pointer, where I should start reading.
> 
> I switched from 437 to 1004 in the setting notebook of Netscape, but
> could not see a difference.
> 
> 
> 
>        Greetings from Vienna
> 
>              Hannes

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: sruli87202@aol.com                                02-Nov-99 14:41:01
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: OS/2 Boot disks with Iomega Jazz drives

From: sruli87202@aol.com (SRuli87202)

Okay Thomas you've got it.  This is the config.sys file that is installed on
my
workstation.  I was unable to find any reference to a scsi device driver.  

Thanks for taking the time to look at this.

Steve.


FS=D:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:1024 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:DE
PROTSHELL=D:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET USER_INI=D:\OS2\OS2.INI
SET SYSTEM_INI=D:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI
SET OS2_SHELL=D:\OS2\CMD.EXE
SET AUTOSTART=TASKLIST,FOLDERS,WARPCENTER
SET RUNWORKPLACE=D:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET COMSPEC=D:\OS2\CMD.EXE
LIBPATH=D:\ODBC\dll;D:\ODBC\drivers;D:\NETQOS2;D:\ibmvjava\ide\program;D:\
NETSCAPE;D:\IBMLAN\NETLIB;D:\MUGLIB\DLL;D:\SVCA\DLL\AGENT;D:\VT\SPCH_BIN;D
:\OS2\DLL;D:\MPTN\DLL;D:\IBMCOM\DLL;D:\IBMI18N\DLL;D:\OS2\MDOS;D:\;D:\OS2\
APPS\DLL;D:\BONUSPAK\MARKVIS;D:\JAVA11\DLL;D:\JAVAOS2\DLL;D:\MMOS2\DLL;D:\
IBMINST;D:\NSC\DLL;D:\TCPIP\DLL;D:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2;D:\TCPIP\UMAIL;D:\NETFIN;
D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\BIN;D:\OS2\APPS\ALARM181;D:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DLL;D:\BITWARE;
D:\SQLLIB\DLL;D:\SQLLIB\ALT;D:\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT;D:\LOTUSW4\ORGANIZE;D:\LOT
USW4\APPROACH;D:\LOTUSW4\123;D:\LOTUSW4\FLG;D:\LOTUSW4\WORDPRO;D:\LOTUSW4\
COMPNENT\FLTERS97;D:\PSNS;
SET
PATH=D:\ODBC\bin;D:\NETQOS2;D:\NETSCAPE;D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG;D:\MUGLIB;D:\MPT
N\BIN;D:\IBMCOM;D:\SVCA\BIN\AGENT;D:\OS2;D:\VT\SPCH_BIN;D:\OS2\SYSTEM;D:\O
S2\MDOS\WINOS2;D:\OS2\INSTALL;D:\;D:\OS2\MDOS;D:\OS2\APPS;D:\JAVA11\BIN;D:
\JAVAOS2\BIN;D:\MMOS2;D:\NSC;D:\TCPIP\BIN;D:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2;D:\TCPIP\UMAIL;
D:\NETFIN;D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\BIN;D:\OS2\APPS\ALARM181;D:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\BIN;D
:\SQLLIB\BIN;D:\SQLLIB\ALT;d:\tc3\bin;D:\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT;D:\LOTUSW4\ORGAN
IZE;D:\LOTUSW4\APPROACH;D:\LOTUSW4\FLG;D:\LOTUSW4\WORDPRO;
SET
DPATH=D:\NETQOS2;D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG;D:\IBMLAN;D:\MUGLIB;D:\MPTN;D:\IBMCOM;D
:\SVCA\HELP;D:\SVCA\ETC;D:\OS2;D:\VT\SPCH_BIN;D:\OS2\SYSTEM;D:\OS2\MDOS\WI
NOS2;D:\OS2\INSTALL;D:\;D:\OS2\BITMAP;D:\OS2\MDOS;D:\OS2\APPS;D:\MMOS2;D:\
MMOS2\INSTALL;D:\IBMINST;D:\NSC;D:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2;D:\NETFIN;D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\
BIN;D:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;D:\SQLLIB\BIN;D:\SQLLIB
SET PROMPT=$i[$p]
SET
HELP=D:\NETSCAPE;D:\MPTN;D:\OS2\HELP;D:\VT\SPCH_RO\HELP;D:\BONUSPAK\ASKPSP
\BOOKS;D:\BONUSPAK\MARKVIS;D:\MMOS2\HELP;D:\SVCA\HELP;D:\TCPIP\HELP;D:\TCP
IP\UMAIL;D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\HELP;D:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;d:\ptab2000\inf;D:\SQ
LLIB\HELP;D:\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT;D:\LOTUSW4\ORGANIZE;D:\LOTUSW4\APPROACH;D:\L
OTUSW4\FLG;D:\LOTUSW4\WORDPRO;D:\LOTUSW4\123;
SET GLOSSARY=D:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS;
SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS
PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES
FILES=20
BASEDEV=IBMKBD.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\LOG.SYS
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\LANPDD.OS2
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\LANVDD.OS2
DEVICE=D:\ibmcom\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:D:\ibmcom /S
DEVICE=D:\ibmcom\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:D:\ibmcom
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\LANDD.OS2
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\LANDLLDD.OS2
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\TESTCFG.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\DOS.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\PMDD.SYS
BUFFERS=90
IOPL=YES
DISKCACHE=D,LW
MAXWAIT=3
MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT
SWAPPATH=D:\ 2048 2048

BREAK=OFF
THREADS=1024
PRINTMONBUFSIZE=134,134,134
COUNTRY=001,D:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS
SET KEYS=ON
SET
BOOKSHELF=D:\IBMLAN\BOOK;D:\OS2\BOOK;D:\BONUSPAK\ASKPSP\BOOKS;D:\MMOS2;D:\
TCPIP\HELP;D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\HELP;
SET
SOMIR=D:\OS2\ETC\SOM.IR;D:\OS2\ETC\WPSH.IR;D:\OS2\ETC\WPDSERV.IR;D:\OS2\ET
C\REXX.IR;D:\LOTUSW4\ETC\WPSC2.IR;D:\LOTUSW4\ETC\ORGANIZE.IR;D:\LOTUSW4\ET
C\APPROACH.IR;D:\LOTUSW4\ETC\L14SOM.IR;D:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSCTO31.IR;D:\LOTUS
W4\ETC\LTSOMO10.IR;D:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSRXO20.IR;D:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTOLSO20.IR;D
:\LOTUSW4\ETC\FLG.IR;
SET SOMDDIR=D:\OS2\ETC\DSOM
SET ULSPATH=D:\LANGUAGE;
SET LOCPATH=D:\IBMI18N\LOCALE;D:\LANGUAGE\LOCALE
BASEDEV=TIMER0.SYS
SET DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;D:\DELETE,512;H:\DELETE,512
BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS
BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD
BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT
BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD
SET EPMPATH=D:\OS2\APPS;
PROTECTONLY=NO
SHELL=D:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM D:\OS2\MDOS
FCBS=16,8
RMSIZE=640
DEVICE=D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\BIN\mwaveVDD.sys
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS
DOS=LOW,NOUMB
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VW32S.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\APM.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VAPM.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q
IFS=D:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /Q
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS
BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS
BASEDEV=MWBD0720.SYS BUS=1150000
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (3,3e8,5)
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS
SET LANG=EN_US
SET TZ=CST6CDT
CODEPAGE=437,850
DEVINFO=KBD,US,D:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP
DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,D:\OS2\VIOTBL.DCP
SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_SVGA
SET VIO_SVGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BVHSVGA)
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VSVGA.SYS
DEVICE=D:\OS2\MDOS\VPRPMI.SYS
SET DMIPATH=D:\DMISL\BIN
RUN=D:\OS2\EPW.EXE
RUN=D:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE
SET
CLASSPATH=.;D:\NETSCAPE\njclass.zip;D:\javaos2\lib\jempcl10.zip;.\.;D:\JAV
A11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON\JAVAPROB.ZIP;ET
INCLUDE=D:\JAVA11\INCLUDE;D:\javaos2\include;D:\JAVA11\INCLUDE\OS2;D:\java
os2\include\os2;D:\DMISL\INCLUDE;D:\SQLLIB\JAVA\DB2java.zip;D:\SQLLIB\JAVA
\RUNTIME.ZIP;D:\TextPrinter;H:\JHELP\lib\jhelp.jar;d:\ptab2000\ptabdates;d
:\test\pack\test.zip;e:\main\search.zip;
SET LIB=D:\JAVA11\LIB;D:\javaos2\lib;D:\DMISL\LIB;
SET MMBASE=D:\MMOS2;
SET DSPPATH=D:\MMOS2\DSP;
SET NCDEBUG=4000
RUN=D:\MMOS2\MIDIDMON.EXE
DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS
DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS
DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\MIDI.SYS
RUN=D:\MMOS2\QRYMMCD.EXE
CALL=D:\ibmcom\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE
RUN=D:\ibmcom\LANMSGEX.EXE
SET NLSPATH=D:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;d:\tcpip\msg\enus850\%N;
SET ETC=D:\MPTN\ETC
DEVICE=D:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS
DEVICE=D:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS
DEVICE=D:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS
DEVICE=D:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\IFNDIS.SYS
RUN=D:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE
CALL=D:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C D:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBEUI.OS2
DEVICE=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\RDRHELP.200
IFS=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\NETWKSTA.200 /I:D:\IBMLAN /N
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIOS.OS2
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\MACS\IBMFE.OS2
RUN=D:\ibmcom\PROTOCOL\LANDLL.EXE
SET I18NDIR=D:\IBMI18N
SET NETVIEW_PATH=D:\SVCA
SET SVA_PATH=D:\SVCA
SET SNMPDIR=D:\SVCA\ETC
RUN=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\LSDAEMON.EXE
DEVICE=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\VNETAPI.OS2
RUN=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\VNRMINIT.EXE
SET NWDBPATH=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG
SET DLSINI=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\NETGUI.INI
SET INIT_FILE_NAMES=netgui
SET INIT_FILE_RANGES=200
SET WPS_COMMUNICATION=YES
SET LANINSTEP=E:\CID\IMG\IBMPEER
SET TMP=d:\tcpip\tmp
DEVICE=d:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.vdd
DEVICE=d:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.sys
RUN=d:\tcpip\bin\VDOSCTL.EXE

DEVICE=D:\NETFIN\SYSINFO.SYS
SET MWFT_PATHNAME=D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\DSP
SET MWPATH=D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\MWAVEOS;D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\DSP;D:\MMOS2\MWAVE
SET MWCARD=MDSP2780
SET MWROOT=D:\MWAVE\MWOS2
SET MWOSNAME=mwos2780.dsp
SET MWBIOS=mwbi0721.dsp
DEVICE=D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\BIN\mwagwVDD.sys
DEVICE=D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\BIN\MWIOVDD.SYS
DEVICE=D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\BIN\mwaveDD.sys
DEVICE=D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\BIN\meio0720.sys
RUN=D:\MWAVE\MWOS2\BIN\MWSTART.EXE
RUN=D:\OS2\SYSTEM\LOGDAEM.EXE
SET IBMAV=D:\IBMAV

SET IMNDATASRV=D:\NETQOS2\data
SET IMNDATACL=D:\NETQOS2\data
SET IMNWORKSRV=D:\NETQOS2\work
SET IMNWORKCL=D:\NETQOS2\work
SET IMNNLPSSRV=D:\NETQOS2
SET IMNNLPSCL=D:\NETQOS2
SET IMNCCCFGFILE=NETQ.CFG
SET IMNCSCFGFILE=NETQ.CFG
SET LITE_LOCALES=D:\NETQOS2
SET USE_HOSTS_FIRST=1
SET ODBC_PATH=D:\ODBC
SET LIB=;
SET DB2INSTANCE=DB2
SET DB2PATH=D:\SQLLIB
BASEDEV=ASC.ADD
rem BASEDEV = IOMGDRV.FLT
rem RUN = \IOMGOS2\IOMGSYNC.EXE

BASEDEV=IBMATAPI.FLT
SET SOMDTHREADPEER=1
SET TEMP=D:\LOTUSW4\TEMP
SET TMP=D:\LOTUSW4\TEMP
SET LOTUS_CLS=D:\LOTUSW4\compnent
SET SOMBASE=D:\OS2
SET SOMRUNTIME=D:\OS2\DLL
SET DSQCOMMTRACE=OFF
SET DSSDIR=D:\LOTUSW4\WORK\APPROACH
SET DSSPATH=D:\LOTUSW4\APPROACH\

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From: tbretz@physik.tu-muenchen.de                      02-Nov-99 16:00:17
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Vice/2

From: Thomas Bretz <tbretz@physik.tu-muenchen.de>

Hello all,

the first release of Vice/2 - the OS/2 port of VICE - the versatile
commodore emulator - is available. There are many features missing yet,
but the emulation (only C64 yet) should work and the whole
functionallity should be available via command line.

Vice/2 uses DIVE and DART at the moment.

Please send bugreports and suggestions to mailto:tbretz@gsi.de

You can find the binaries at:
http://www.prakt.physik.tu-muenchen.de/tbretz/vice2/

Have fun,
Thomas.

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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           02-Nov-99 10:33:23
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA on WSeB and german Umlauts: Font Problem

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Depending on who is rendering the font and in what way will determine which
fonts
work.

So bitmap fonts usually don't work, truetype works, ATM depends.

We definitely know that S3 cards have had problems displaying 1004.

The browser is actually the best test of this though.

Set your font to Tms Rmn.

Go to http://members.aol.com/pspmikek/charsets

Select Latin-1 on the left.

If the characters in the table do not match the GIF below, it is definitely a
video card problem.

Mike Kaply
IBM



Johannes Hromadka wrote:

>Michael Kaply wrote:
>>
>> Are you using an S3 video card?
>
>Yes, It's an IBM 300PL with the onboard Trio 3D.
>
>I'm still using the driver from the driver disk shipped with the PC
>(Version 2.1, if I rember correct)
>
>> It sounds like 1004 isn't working at all.
>
>1004 works, at least in EPM using System VIO Font.
>
>It also works with the TrueType fonts, but not with the ATM Fonts in
>Netscape 4.61GA (US english version)
>
>> Try switching to GRADD just to see if the problem is fixed or get the
latest
>> S3 driver.
>
>I'll try it.
>
>I'll also make some tests to see if any ATM font works with PM
>Applications in codepage 1004.
>
>But can you give me some detailed information, about the new locale
>settings and how they affect applications ?
>
>Or a pointer, where I should start reading.
>
>I switched from 437 to 1004 in the setting notebook of Netscape, but
>could not see a difference.
>
>       Greetings from Vienna
>
>             Hannes

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          02-Nov-99 12:48:11
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: About Tool Pride

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On 1 Nov 1999 23:59:13 GMT, Pete wrote:

:>Admittedly this post is not OS/2 specific, however I did notice in 
:>another thread the question of "tools," and attaching "Pride" to them.
:>
:>I'm not a computer jockey, per se.  It's a *hobby* of mine.  To bring 
:>home the bacon, I'm a tile mason.
:>
:>In both my hobby and working world I've chosen the best tools for the 
:>job. When I set a floor in wetbed, build a 5x3 foot shower with 
:>Perfectly plumb walls all in marble - or even ceramic - I'm able to do
:>so with good tools.  Not just "the tool that'll do," but the best 
:>tools I can find.  Then, when I show the home-owner their new shower, 
:>every joint neatly lined up, not one square out of line, I take pride 
:>in my tools.
:>
:>If I didn't have quality tools to do the quality job, it's doubtful 
:>i'd see that customer absolutely *beaming.*
:>
:>That's where tool pride comes in. Knowing that *I* carefully 
:>considered all the options before making a decision that will affect 
:>my work.
:>
:>The same is with my operating system.
:>
:>I carefully considered windows.  Currently I even have an 
:>win(lose?)-98 partition, only because It shipped w/ my new computer.
:>
:>But, to do what I want, I *still* choose OS/2.:
:>
:>	It co-exists w/ other OS's nicely:
:>	I can test out linux, and BeOS, and retain a common, multitasking, 
:>stable OS with a variety of software (os/2 AND win 3.1) that does 
:>everything I need.
:>	It's hardware requirements insure I get the most out of my processor.
:>I mean, come on, WINMODEMs????? No wonder I need so much cooling fans.
:>
:>	Best of all, when I decide to chat (mIRC for win3.1) I can gloat when
:>people type "be right back, I gotta reboot."
:>
:>And THAT, my friends, is how someone can take pride in their tools. 
:>
:>Have a nice day, 
:>Pete
:>		

I think that about sums it up nicely.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: esther@bitranch.com                               02-Nov-99 16:43:27
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:33:44, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
wrote:
| > Sorry, but I haven't found _any_ of the multifunction printers that 
| > are supported for OS/2. 
| 
| And a "multifunction" anything is like buying a "shampoo + conditioner all 
| in one" bottle. You get shortchanged in both sides, not just one. Hardware,
| and its drivers, are changing too fast for any "multifunction" device to 
| stay equally current and equally useful for very long. Buy a good cheap 
| scanner, preferably a used HP flatbed because they're fully supported 
| everywhere, and a good cheap colour printer like the Lexmark Optra Color 40
| which is being sold as low as $160, and very well supported by a good 
| company.

Well, I must disagree with you on this.

The bitranch has several printers and scanners, as well as a long HP 
OfficeJet 500. The HP OfficeJet, now about two years old, was provided
to me with my ZD-owned laptop... and I think it's a dandy device. The 
software that runs the it-does-everything management application is a 
CPU pig (especially when it gets upset if the OfficeJet isn't 
connected... which, naturally, it *isn't* when I'm on the road). But 
it's a decent printer, a decent fax, and an almost-decent scanner. I 
don't need much more than that, for my day-job. (I have an Art staff 
back in Garden City NY to make my stuff look pretty.)

It also takes up a lot less room than would separate scanners, 
printers, and fax machines. (With 15 computers here at the bitranch, 
desktop real estate is important.)

Mind you, I'm not criticizing the other equipment you mention. I have 
an HP 3c, an HP IIp (which I keep intending to sell, as it's in the 
garage though it works perfectly), and another inexpensive scanner we 
won (which is in a closet). We also have a new Lexmark inkjet (used 
primarily for labels for extended attributes), a Lexmark Optra S laser
printer with nearly every option, and 2 almost-working Epson inkjets 
(in the garage, make an offer folks).

But the multifunction printers *are* a good deal... if they fit your 
needs. I wish any of the vendors had produced OS/2 drivers for such a 
beast, as I'd have bought one in a flash. I'm sure that the hardware 
vendors *didn't*, though, because IBM spent years repeating the 
mantra, "OS/2 is for our corporate customers" and _they_ don't buy 
this kind of equipment.

--Esther

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From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com                       02-Nov-99 16:55:12
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: NS4.6.1 copy&paste and XIT and/or Drag Text

From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com

Has anybody else noticed that NS4.6.1 seems to have problems 
co-existing with these utilities?

After the first 10 or so copy and paste operations into list boxes 
using the RMB popup menu, Netscape usually reverts to only allowing a 
copy and paste from its own title bar.

Then that stops working too.

I have had problems on reboot (after NS froze the Desktop) with both 
Drag Text and XIT according to checkini.

NS4.6.1 is so brilliantly fast that I intend to keep using it for the 
extensive research I have to do.  The failure of the copy and paste is
frustrating though.

If anybody else has had similar problems and found that closing XIT 
and/or Drag Text has kept NS4.6.1 able to use its own copy and paste, 
I would like to hear about it.

ta,

bab

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Nov-99 17:31:00
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:10:26, mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote:

> Hey you guys!
> 
> What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, daemon is
> running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing... wget
is
> never called, etc...
> 
> I tried setting it up to look for new links in the todo folder... did the
> reboot thing... still nada...
> 
> I'm using Comm/2 4.61ga, Warp 3.0 FP#40, awget 1.5.1.2 off of Hobbes and
wget
> 1.53...
> 
> Anyone know the magic? :')
> 
> Yes... I'm waiting WELL past the 30second sleep period... ;')
> 
> --
> 
>
*******************************************************************************

> *            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...           
 *
> *       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at:      
 *
> *                     http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx                    
 *
>
*******************************************************************************

> 
> /----------------------------------------\
> | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride |
> |         mcbrides@erols.com             |
> \----------------------------------------/
> 
> --

Try dragging onto the ToDo folder (you can't do this with NC/2 4.04), 
or set the line:
use_desktop = 0
to:
use_desktop = 1
in the AWget.cfg file (it lives in x:\MPTN\ETC in warp4, I don't know 
where it would be in warp3).

By the way, go to:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7567/software/english/ind
ex.html
to get the latest AWget.

I have no idea if warp4 does something different from warp3, but that 
might have something to do with your problem.
 
Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     02-Nov-99 17:31:02
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:03:16, "James C. Mankin" <n5x@psu.edu> wrote:

> Since there has been a lot of discussion of bootos2 lately,   I have a
> question. ...     I  used bootos2 to make a command line only  bootable hard
> disk partion to use for backing up my system.   It works
> very well except that when I'm finished backing up the system there seems to
> be no way other than cycling power to reboot the machine.
> C-A-D doesnt work .    Should it, or is there another way I havent
> discovered.     Thanks   Jim  n5x@psu.edu
> 

I have never seen that problem. Must be something other than BOOTOS2.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: rjfreem@attglobal.net                             02-Nov-99 10:18:13
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: rjfreem@attglobal.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 
   at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:

Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
supply fan. Heat kills.

RJF



>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             31-Oct-99 19:16:17
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Sat, 30 Oct 99 23:17:33 (cdt), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

>any suggestions on the best format for the bootos2 formated zip?  Bootos2 has
>3 different methods, PM, WPS & Minimal.  the docs aren't very clear on how to
>create the minimal method.]

By simply NOT specifying a PM or a WPS method on the commandline.

>btw, is it a good idea to create a bootable fixpack Zip disk?

Not wure what you mean here. The FPs specify using a certain level of
the CSF Boot Disk, which IS bootable already, for installing the FPs.

>and should any bootos2 zip disk be listed in boot manager?
Sure. Any BootOS2 partition on your hard disk should be accessible
through BM. That's the quickest way to boot to a maintenance disk.
Floppies take about 3 times as long to boot.


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             31-Oct-99 19:36:14
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 and RAM Disk cache

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On 31 Oct 1999 19:32:34 GMT, Ian Johnston wrote:

>As suggested here, I tried putting my NS disk cache on a RAM disk. Disk
>r: is set up at startup, and NS is told that the disk cache path is R:\
>
>Just two problems:
>
>1) It never writes anything to cache
>
>2) Every so often (three or four web pages or so) it grinds to a halt, using
>   up 99+% of CPU until brutally killed.
Both problems are caused by your cache path. NS will only write to a
SUBdirectory, not to the root of a drive. So you need to set up a
subdirectory on you're R: drive (say '/temp') and then change your
cache path in NS to 'R:\temp'. This is done because the root can have
only 512 entries in the directory table. NS can easily pass that number
of cached files in just a few minutes. The only hitch is you must
remake any subdirectories on the RAM drive when restart your system. I
do that on my system by adding the line:
'md t:\temp >nul 2>&1' 
to my startup.cmd file.


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             31-Oct-99 19:48:19
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Starting programs with KEY-shortcut?

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:36:19 GMT, Svein Sandersen wrote:

>Used to have Object Desktop installed, but decided to wait with this 
>after installing from scratch.
>What I am missing is the ability to just use some keyboard-keys to 
>start programs. In OD2 I used CTRL-SHIFT-T to start my TSTHost 
>communication program, and so on. What progs can do this other than 
>OD?

PC2 is an excellent WPS enhancer or replacement that can do this. It's
free. And it's on hobbes.


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             31-Oct-99 19:44:23
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:54:20 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote:

>If one cannot see the difference between the emotions invoked by one's home
and 
>one's choice of operating systems, perhaps one has never owned a home.

Or perhaps one has never shown any dedication to it, anyway...just like
their lack of dedication to an OS.

>Or should seek help.

Hmmm. You sure do sing in a different key now than you did formerly,
"Ominor". Or should that now be "Wominor?"



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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             02-Nov-99 14:40:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

How many generations of backups are you going to make to a removable hard
disk?

I realize that the initial cost of a tape drive is higher, but the incremental
cost for additional backups and the ease of storing backups off site is a
tremendous plus.

Using DAT, a 4GB (uncompressed) backup costs less than $10.

And what happens if the hard disk controller goes belly up? The backup is
likely to be worthless too.

Alan


rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:

> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
>
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
>
> RJF
>
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
>
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
>
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
>
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
>
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From: yourself@127.0.0.1                                02-Nov-99 19:42:18
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: NS4.6.1 copy&paste and XIT and/or Drag Text

From: yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:55:24, babnospam@nospambigpond.com wrote:

> Has anybody else noticed that NS4.6.1 seems to have problems 
> co-existing with these utilities?
> 
> After the first 10 or so copy and paste operations into list boxes 
> using the RMB popup menu, Netscape usually reverts to only allowing a 
> copy and paste from its own title bar.
> 
> Then that stops working too.
> 
> I have had problems on reboot (after NS froze the Desktop) with both 
> Drag Text and XIT according to checkini.
> 
> NS4.6.1 is so brilliantly fast that I intend to keep using it for the 
> extensive research I have to do.  The failure of the copy and paste is
> frustrating though.
> 
> If anybody else has had similar problems and found that closing XIT 
> and/or Drag Text has kept NS4.6.1 able to use its own copy and paste, 
> I would like to hear about it.

I'm puzzled by your references to DragText since it doesn't do
cut-and-paste, doesn't provide RMB popup menus, and (sadly) doesn't
even support most NS-specific windows (i.e. the browser and editor
windows).  DT *does* support listboxes, but I can't find any in NS -
I'll assume you mean comboboxes, which combine an entryfield with
a dropdown listbox.  I'd certainly appreciate some DT-specific info
since I'm about to release the first beta of DT v3.2 which will
reenable DT in some windows where NS has disabled it (e.g. the
Url window at the top of the browser).

FYI...  You should be aware that Netscape's Windows-style comboboxes
are buggy and may *disable* MB2 (the RMB) while the dropdown
listbox is displayed.  If you display the list by clicking on the
entryfield, everything works.  However, if you display it in the 
conventional OS/2 fashion by clicking on the down-arrow, MB2 will
be completely useless while the list is visible.  In addition, the
mouse pointer will fail to change as you move over text windows or
resizeable frames.

For your amusement:  find or create an HTML form with a combobox,
then display the list by clicking on the entryfield.  By scrolling
the window, you can make the list scroll right out out the browser
and onto your Desktop.


   == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
___________________________________________________________________

                |             - DragText v3.1 -
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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               02-Nov-99 16:42:05
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:28
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:59:56 -0700, David Rocks wrote:

>    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?
>

I have the HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C, I mainly got it for printing and making
xerox type copies. Every once in a blue moon I have to boot windoze to do
some scanning, so scanning is not really a big problem.

We will probably never see an OS2 driver for these all in one machines.
We can only hope Daniella buys one;-)


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From: danielh@crosslink.net                             02-Nov-99 16:42:22
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:28
Subj: Re: Odd resolution to gnupatch woes

From: danielh@crosslink.net

>danielh@crosslink.net wrote:                                          
>>When trying to use gnu PATCH with the output from (gnu) DIFF -e,
>> an error occured.  However, when I
>>:     SET TMP=e:\temp (instead of the default of G:\TEMP) everything 
>>: worked fine!                                                        
>>: So either my G:\TEMP directory is very strange (since it works fine 
>>: otherwise), or PATCH has a bizarre bug in it.                       
>May be a FAT vs. HPFS issue (short vs. long file names).  I've run into
>that before with converted Unix apps.
>David Kunz

Both drives are hpfs.  However, when I 
 SET  TMP=e:/TEMP  or SET TMP=g:/temp
everything worked aok (sounds like another unixy hangover).



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From: hjmurray@home.com                                 02-Nov-99 22:35:04
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:28
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: "Hal Murray" <hjmurray@home.com>

 >     I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there
one
 > that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for
OS/2?
 > 

Not sure you will even find OS/2 drivers for the printer function.
Most comments about multifunction printers/scanners/fax is they are
not supported in OS/2.

someone might have some suggestion if you can tell us what
brand/model your are considering.

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From: kf4lne@hotmail.com                                02-Nov-99 17:51:16
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: im looking for a decent browser for OS/2 Warp 3...anyone have one?

From: "user" <kf4lne@hotmail.com>

i need a full java supporting browser for OS/2 Warp 3 for use on my LAN. any
suggestions would be apreciated


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From: fwkirk@ibm.net                                    02-Nov-99 23:18:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:10:26, mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote:

> Hey you guys!
> 
> What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, daemon is
> running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing... wget
is
> never called, etc...

	Same here.  I'm interested in any responses you may get.  I've tried 
AWGET 3 times with the same results as yours.  Nothing!  It's 
mystifying that so many people say it's so great.  <g>

FWK		

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From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au                    02-Nov-99 23:56:24
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)

James C. Mankin <n5x@psu.edu> wrote:
>Since there has been a lot of discussion of bootos2 lately,   I have a
>question. ...     I  used bootos2 to make a command line only  bootable hard
>disk partion to use for backing up my system.   It works
>very well except that when I'm finished backing up the system there seems to
>be no way other than cycling power to reboot the machine.
>C-A-D doesnt work .    Should it, or is there another way I havent
>discovered.     Thanks   Jim  n5x@psu.edu

Try SETBOOT with the IBD parameter.

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From: jbbandos@hotmail.com                              03-Nov-99 00:11:15
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: More specifically,...

From: jbbandos@hotmail.com (Jose' Bernardo Silva)

Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> escreveu:

>How long have you been running it? In my case it always died within 6
>months

I have been running it for less than that, I think. But I only fire up the
peer
sharing ocasionaly, to copy files to this machine. Normally it is off.

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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            02-Nov-99 17:39:04
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: updated AWGET

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

In <381F3B9A.7A9EFFF9@wcom.com>, on 11/02/99 
   at 07:37 PM, Will Honea <will.honea@wcom.com> said:


> 
>-<Attachment #1, awget1514.zip (77 Kb), application/x-zip-compressed
>base64>-

I installed this and all of my downloads keep failing now.

I did have a previous version installed.

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There are 31 Processes with 123 Threads.
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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               02-Nov-99 19:38:19
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 22:35:08 GMT, Hal Murray wrote:

> >     I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there
>one
> > that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for
>OS/2?
> > 
>
>Not sure you will even find OS/2 drivers for the printer function.
>Most comments about multifunction printers/scanners/fax is they are
>not supported in OS/2.
>
>someone might have some suggestion if you can tell us what
>brand/model your are considering.

The HP's work fine with the Omni driver.


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From: mcbrides@erols.com                                02-Nov-99 20:02:24
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride)

In article <19991102.9272659@LOCALHOST.umd.edu>,
Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
>Warp 3 handles URL differently than Warp 4.  As a result, when you
>drag a link to desktop or anywhere else, you get a communicator
>program object in Warp 3, and an URL object in Warp 4. AWGET can only >
>handle the latter.
>

You're absolutely right! Warp 4 appears to create a file whereas in warp 3
it's
just... am object? Anyway's, AWGET will not work in a warp 3.0 system... At
least not mine! :')

>Try this instead.  Copy the link by right clicking and choosing copy.  >
>Now click on the ADD URL icon in AWGET folder and paste the URL in the >
>resulting dialog.
>

Did it... no joy...

Thank you, very much, for your post.


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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            02-Nov-99 20:55:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-dSSXUHdXQd7s@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>, 
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com says...
>On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 03:32:37, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> a 
>crit dans un message:
>> >
>> With all due respect, Buddy, use a filter. Furthermore, why not share your 
>> insight with the other people of this thread.
>
>With all due respect, I clearly am not filtering "forgetaboutit@fake.com" 
>and then beyond that admit I haven't a clue as to what of "your [my?] 
>insight" I'm invited to share with "the other people of this thread." 
>
>I thought I shared such, widely and to a fault.
>
>Aside, I was responding to perhaps just a partial reading of an ongoing 
>thread, and didn't take much to the tone of "I'm using Win200 so screw you"
>if that's what was implied. If I was wrong, I'll believe it by your saying 
>it, but all the same the name of the newsgroups hereabouts are 
>"comp.os.os2." initialized and therefore only information of significant 
>usefulness to those users using OS/2 are welcomed, or appropriate. There 
>are far more widely read places to trill one's choice of using ("happily" 
>or whatever) non-OS/2 operating systems.
>
>Perhaps my own filters are a cause for lost continuity here. I do filter 
>heavily, and easily, pretty much at the drop of a heavy-handed hat.

Your filters would be responsible for you inability to follow this thread or 
else you would know that this thread is not about one's choice of OS.

Try determining the context before determining any implications.

>
>Good luck,
>
>Buddy
>
>Buddy Donnelly
>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
>
>
>

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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            02-Nov-99 18:50:10
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

In <9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-TZuejS8pJ3L0@localhost>, on 11/02/99 
   at 11:18 PM, fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk) said:


>	Same here.  I'm interested in any responses you may get.  I've tried 
>AWGET 3 times with the same results as yours.  Nothing!  It's  mystifying
>that so many people say it's so great.  <g>

It does work great.  Actually, it worked great for me until I applied the
recent update someone sent through.  Now I keep getting "failed" messages.

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OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 
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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               02-Nov-99 20:57:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <381DD998.44F857D9@us.ibm.com>, on 11/01/99 
   at 01:19 PM, Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com> said:

>yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote:

>> Has BootOS2 been modified so you can create a bootable image on an LS-120
>> drive installed as the A drive and actually boot from it yet?  There seems
>> to be some hard coding which limits A drive to 1.44 MEG when trying to
>> write to LS-120...and of course it won't boot from it when all other OS'S
>> I have will.

>There's nothing in the code that limits A to 1.44MB; in fact you can
>easily create a single
>2.88MB boot disk if you have a 2.88 drive.  What exactly happens when you
>try to create
>a boot system on A when it's a LS-120?

It stops at 1.44 MEG and puts the rest on the second disk.  Of course the
machine won't boot from it because something in the startup sequence for
OS/2 resets the drive to 1.44MEG floppy mode rather than LS-120 mode.  It
appears you don't access the device via ATAPI but via the floppy driver. 
I think the floppy driver has native support for 2.88 floppy drives, but
nothing larger.

Roland

>Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      03-Nov-99 00:50:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: im looking for a decent browser for OS/2 Warp 3...anyone have one?

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <eSJT3.1117$sR5.9250@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
  "user" <kf4lne@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i need a full java supporting browser for OS/2 Warp 3 for use on my
> LAN. any suggestions would be apreciated

Ummm, I dunno... How about Netscape? :)

http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm

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From: tvoltagg@home.com                                 03-Nov-99 02:05:16
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: IRC Client through a proxy server

From: tvoltagg@home.com

I'm trying to configure ezIrc through a proxy server.  I can't seem to have
connect.  I've configured the proxy server for the server name and port.
Is it possible that ezIrc can't work through a proxy server?  Is there 
any free client that can?

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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            02-Nov-99 20:53:09
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <qfqneebjaivargpbz.fkhu2m2.pminews@news.nvinet.com>, 
d.s.darrow@nvinet.com says...
>On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:54:20 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote:
>
>>If one cannot see the difference between the emotions invoked by one's home
and 
>>one's choice of operating systems, perhaps one has never owned a home.
>
>Or perhaps one has never shown any dedication to it, anyway...just like
>their lack of dedication to an OS.

A person must be a real loser to be dedicated to an OS. I'm dedicated to my 
wife, family, and friends. If you guys feel that software requires dedication, 

then clearly, you haven't had good experiences with any of those.

>>Or should seek help.
>
>Hmmm. You sure do sing in a different key now than you did formerly,
>"Ominor". Or should that now be "Wominor?"
>

Ominor was a joke and clearly meant more to you guys than to me.

>
>

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From: alrisden@kc.net                                   02-Nov-99 20:27:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: Al Risden <alrisden@kc.net>

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I've read through a few of the responses and not to be redundant but, as
far as Approach goes, I would agree with the complaints. My system also
locks up and I have experienced problems with queries, that work
perfectly in Windows based Approach versions. I hope IBM will take note
of this, or Lotus!!!.

jwelton@my-deja.com wrote:

> I hate to be negative but I have two very big gripes
> with two important OS/2 applications that make my
> OS/2 life living hell.
>
> First Gripe:  Approach with SmartSuite 2.2 v1.1.  Now I
> PAID for this program and I expect this program to
> work for me but it continues to fail in the stretch.
>
> I have a large dbase of approximately 3,000 video movies
> and I'm adding all the time. I'm a real video hound and
> record just about everything I come across.  I list them
> in categories like classic movies (usually old B&W), hit
> movies, TV Specials, Sports Events, etc.  You name it and
> I've probably got it somewhere on the shelf, labeled,
> titled and numbered for easy finding.
>
> My problem with Approach has been trying to print out
> various or special reports.  We've set up sort of a video
> club and there are friends who ask for a list of all
> mysteries or sports, etc.  Each and every time I try to
> sort the full worksheet of all the records down to just
> particular cateogories Approach freezes up solid on me.
> It will take me days and a lot of luck to get one
> specialized listing printed.
>
> It is very embarrassing because I live in the dorms and
> one of the very few OS/2 users.  I'm very proud of OS/2
> but I die a thousand deaths when a group of college buddies
> come in and ask me if I've got "such and such a movie" and
> why don't you just print out a list so we can pick and choose?
>
> I finally gave up on trying to print out a full listing of
> all movies with SS/2 and turned to the dbase in IBMWorks.
> IBMWorks would not read a dbf4 file but it would read a dbf3.
> From there I was able to print out a full listing of every
> video.  It is an awful looking report though and I don't know
> how to sort the records into categories and just print out
> each categorie (if anyone knows email me with the instructions).
>
> That's my complaint with SS/2.  I want the Lotus developers to
> get off their damn butts and fix this program so it works
> properly.  If I want to sort my dbase then control/hide all
> the unnecessary or unwanted records so I can create a nice
> looking report of special or a group of designated records
> I should be able to do it.  I PAID for this DAMN program
> dammit!
>
> Gripe No. 2:
>
> Trying to empty my trash in Netscape 4.6.1.  I know I've complained
> about this before and I know the Netscape Team is working on it
> (or has it fixed for the next release of Communicator) but get off
> your duffs and release an update ASAP.  I get a lot of spam that
> goes straight to the dumper (trash).  If the subject line as the
> letters sex, babe, lottery, casino, etc, I never see it but after
> a while my trash folder is huge.  I've tried every possible way
> to empty it hoping it won't crash Netscape or bring my system
> to a halt without fail.  If it only crashees Netscape the next
> time I open Communicator there is a tmp file filled with my trash.
> I try to delete that file and Communicator crashes.  I start it
> up again and I've got ANOTHER temp file of my temp file trash.
> It's a catch22 and it just keeps building itself.  I've got
> tons of hard disk space (now have 20 gig) but it is stupid to
> have an application that won't let me empty my deleted emails
> or an application that doubles my deleted emails if I try to
> delete them.  FIX the DAMN thing DAMMIT!
>
> Communicator is free and I do appreciate it but give me a break,
> huh?  What good is it if I have to keep uninstalling the program
> and reinstalling the program just to empty my trash?
>
> OS/2 has so many wonderful things going for it that I want the
> (few, i.e., dbase) applications we have to at least work well
> enough to give us what we need.
>
> Sorry if I rambled on.  I struggled tonight trying to print out
> a list of horror movies (Halloween in the dorms) and was shown
> up by some weeny across campus using ACCESS and Win95!  I've got
> better movies but I can't prove it with a print out! :-(
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi...               03-Nov-99 02:55:09
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca

From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:26:06, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> a 
crit:

> In article <o0XddOdRVCYE-pn2-NlhkbEOK6ppr@MGOYETTE>, 
> Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com says...
> >Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:22:55, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John 
> >Thompson) a crit:
> >
> >> In <MPG.1286a2012dd35a4a989a8f@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> >One can take joy in using one's tools without feeling very proud of that 
tool. 
> >> >I used OS/2 for some time and enjoyed it. I switched to NT and enjoyed
using 
> >> >it. 
> >> 
> >> That's nice.  So why exactly are you here?
> 
> Free internet, last I checked. If you don't like my post, use a filter.

	Well, wrong target there.  I'm not the one who wrote that.
 
> >	Well, he said he "enjoyED" NT.  Maybe, he wants to switch again?  ;-)
> 
> 'Fraid not. I'm using Win2000 RC 1, and I am enjoying it. I was just trying
the 
> keep the topic focused.

	Keep us inform about the licenses fees (one license for each user 
instead of each machine) and the mandatory registration.  On other 
thought, don't.  ;-)

Salut,

	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
	ICQ #13376913
	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            02-Nov-99 22:45:12
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <o0XddOdRVCYE-pn2-UCefHGZ827w4@MGOYETTE>, 
Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com says...
>Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:26:06, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> a 
>écrit:
>
>> In article <o0XddOdRVCYE-pn2-NlhkbEOK6ppr@MGOYETTE>, 
>> Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com says...
>> >Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:22:55, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John 
>> >Thompson) a écrit:
>> >
>> >> In <MPG.1286a2012dd35a4a989a8f@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> >One can take joy in using one's tools without feeling very proud of
that tool. 
>> >> >I used OS/2 for some time and enjoyed it. I switched to NT and enjoyed
using 
>> >> >it. 
>> >> 
>> >> That's nice.  So why exactly are you here?
>> 
>> Free internet, last I checked. If you don't like my post, use a filter.
>
>	Well, wrong target there.  I'm not the one who wrote that.

I know. This was to the other guy. I should have made that clear. Sorry.

>> >	Well, he said he "enjoyED" NT.  Maybe, he wants to switch again?  ;-)
>> 
>> 'Fraid not. I'm using Win2000 RC 1, and I am enjoying it. I was just trying 
the 
>> keep the topic focused.
>
>	Keep us inform about the licenses fees (one license for each user 
>instead of each machine) and the mandatory registration.  On other 
>thought, don't.  ;-)

Doesn't concern me. The NT 4 Workstation upgrade is $149. That's $20 more than 

I paid for the OS/2 Warp 4 upgrade and certainly provides more bang for the 
buck out of box than OS/2 Warp 4 did, for me anyway. 

TRY taking off the blinders long enough to READ the article. 

>Salut,
>
>	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
>	ICQ #13376913
>	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede
>

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David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
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From: dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org                     03-Nov-99 03:44:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: IRC Client through a proxy server

From: "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org>

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 02:05:32 GMT, tvoltagg@home.com wrote:

>I'm trying to configure ezIrc through a proxy server.  I can't seem to have
>connect.  I've configured the proxy server for the server name and port.
>Is it possible that ezIrc can't work through a proxy server?  Is there 
>any free client that can?

JavaIRC can ... (www.alphaworks.ibm.com)
---
Disclaimer: unless explicitly mentioned otherwise, I do not speak
for the company I work for.



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From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com                       03-Nov-99 04:21:07
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: My NS4.6.1 clipboard confusion and XIT/DT (Pt 2)

From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com

Rich Walsh wrote:

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:55:24, babnospam@nospambigpond.com wrote:
 
>> Has anybody else noticed that NS4.6.1 seems to have problems 
>> co-existing with these utilities?
>> 
>> After the first 10 or so copy and paste operations into list boxes 
>> using the RMB popup menu, Netscape usually reverts to only allowing
a 
>> copy and paste from its own title bar.
>> 
>> Then that stops working too.
>> 
>> I have had problems on reboot (after NS froze the Desktop) with 
both 
>> Drag Text and XIT according to checkini.
>> 
>> NS4.6.1 is so brilliantly fast that I intend to keep using it for 
the 
>> extensive research I have to do.  The failure of the copy and paste
is
>> frustrating though.
>>
>> If anybody else has had similar problems and found that closing XIT

>> and/or Drag Text has kept NS4.6.1 able to use its own copy and 
paste, 
>> I would like to hear about it.
 
>I'm puzzled by your references to DragText since it doesn't do
>cut-and-paste, doesn't provide RMB popup menus, and (sadly) doesn't
>even support most NS-specific windows (i.e. the browser and editor
>windows).  DT *does* support listboxes, but I can't find any in NS -
>I'll assume you mean comboboxes, which combine an entryfield with
>a dropdown listbox.  I'd certainly appreciate some DT-specific info
>since I'm about to release the first beta of DT v3.2 which will
>reenable DT in some windows where NS has disabled it (e.g. the
>Url window at the top of the browser).



My remarks just reflected my confusion (I'm an amateur) about what is 
going wrong with the clipboard when I use NS4.61 for a long time ... I
didn't mention, did I, that, after one of NS4.6.1's crashes I have 
also lost the use of the mouse cursor over links in NS itself. I have 
grown used to deliberately rebooting and running chkdsk and checkini 
(just to be on the safe side) after using NS4.6.1 for a couple of 
hours even when it _hasn't_ hung the Desktop.  In all other respects, 
my OS/2 installation and the apps are boringly stable, reliable, fast 
and behave predictably.

By 'list boxes', I meant the URL field in Netscape and also the entry 
fields in the online database the Open Directory provides for its 
editors.  Copy and paste stops working in both after a while and even 
closing Netscape and re-opening it and logging on to the ODP again 
doesn't solve the problem (which keeps cropping up in different ways 
and comes and sometimes even _goes_ quite unpredictably). I got 
hundreds of sites all ready off line in spreadsheets and adding them 
to the Open Directory database should, I thought, have been a simple 
matter of copy and paste instead of hours of tedious typing in.

I'll close XIT before opening Netscape and see if that makes a 
difference.

I look forward to DT v3.2.  DT is my all time favourite utility - how 
could I stop using OS/2 when I have something as elegant and powerful 
as DT at my disposal?


 
>FYI...  You should be aware that Netscape's Windows-style comboboxes
>are buggy and may *disable* MB2 (the RMB) while the dropdown
>listbox is displayed.  If you display the list by clicking on the
>entryfield, everything works.  However, if you display it in the 
>conventional OS/2 fashion by clicking on the down-arrow, MB2 will
>be completely useless while the list is visible.  In addition, the
>mouse pointer will fail to change as you move over text windows or
>resizeable frames.

Ahhh...
 
>For your amusement:  find or create an HTML form with a combobox,
>then display the list by clicking on the entryfield.  By scrolling
>the window, you can make the list scroll right out out the browser
>and onto your Desktop.

ta,

bab
 

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From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca                03-Nov-99 04:53:07
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:27
Subj: Re: More specifically,...

From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca (Jack Troughton)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 00:11:30, jbbandos@hotmail.com (Jose' Bernardo 
Silva) wrote:

ęKris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> escreveu:
Ű
ę>How long have you been running it? In my case it always died within 6
ę>months
Ű
ęI have been running it for less than that, I think. But I only fire up the
peer
ęsharing ocasionaly, to copy files to this machine. Normally it is off.

I've been running it for longer than that with no problems, on an NT 
network.

I don't really use the wps features though.  I have my connections 
scripted in startup.cmd, for example...

net use j: \\server\temp
net use lpt3 \\server\canonlbp
net share Work=d:\work

It automatically starts Peer and asks me to log in when I try to 
connect to resources on the network.

I find that scripting up your connections just works a lot better and 
more stably in the long term.

Also using temporary shares works way better through the command line 
as well.  When you map a drive via command, it just shows up in the 
drives folder, and you can open it up etc as normal.  Currently the 
server has some extra files in my part of the directory tree, for ea's
and all of that.  It works pretty much alright here so far.

Looking up the net commands in the online os2 command reference is 
definitely a worthy investment of your time.  You can really get good 
fine control over your network using them.

Jack Troughton   ICQ:7494149
http://jakesplace.dhs.org
jack.troughton at videotron.ca
jake at jakesplace.dhs.org
MontrÚal PQ Canada

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 03-Nov-99 01:56:07
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: About Tool Pride

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, DrWho@tardis.org (Pete) spake unto us, saying:

>And THAT, my friends, is how someone can take pride in their tools. 

I think you said it a lot better'n I did.  :-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
             Nothing is lost until you begin to look for it.

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From: jasper_de_keijzer@nl.compuware.com                03-Nov-99 08:33:14
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: DrawIt homepage

From: Jasper de Keijzer <jasper_de_keijzer@nl.compuware.com>

Dear OS/2 User

Finally "Difficult Muse" has delivered the new DrawIt homepage.
It looks very good but in its current state it cannot be viewed with the
MS-IE (java script error). The designer Paul Evenbleij works on it.

Have a look at 

http://home-5.worldonline.nl/~jdekeij


By the way, The development of DrawIt still continuus. Current project
is the support for Windows Metafiles. 

Please keep on coming with wishes, remarks etc.


Thanks for all input so far,

Jasper de Keijzer.

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 03-Nov-99 07:36:22
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-TZuejS8pJ3L0@localhost>, fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk)
writes:
>On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:10:26, mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote:
>
>> Hey you guys!
>> 
>> What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, daemon is
>> running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing... wget 
is
>> never called, etc...
>
>	Same here.  I'm interested in any responses you may get.  I've tried 
>AWGET 3 times with the same results as yours.  Nothing!  It's 
>mystifying that so many people say it's so great.  <g>
>
>FWK	

I hate to admit this in public, but a good point is that you need Wget
for AWget to work. I don't *think* the fine manual mentioned this,
so there's some excuse at least. Try it with Add URL Manually first,
that's a good test of whether the trouble is in the URL-collection
or farther upstream. 	


--
hrad ngravvd

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 03-Nov-99 07:55:03
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <MPG.12882563131e07e4989a92@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:
>In article <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-xC2JpxZCTQuc@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>, 
>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com says...
>>On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:26:06, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> a 
>>crit dans un message:
>>snipto
>>> I'm using Win2000 RC 1, and I am enjoying it. I was just trying the 
>>> keep the topic focused.
>>
>>Please, with all due respect (<0), keep it focussed elsewhere? Neither the 
>>place, nor the time, nor useful, it was.
>>
>>
>>Good luck,
>>
>>Buddy
>>
>>Buddy Donnelly
>>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
>>
>>
>>
>With all due respect, Buddy, use a filter. Furthermore, why not share your 
>insight with the other people of this thread.
>

David, do you have a '76 Cadillac Seville ? Do you drive at 35 MPH in the left 

lane at all times ?

just wondering . . .


>-- 
>---------------------------------------
>David H. McCoy
>dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
>---------------------------------------


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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 03-Nov-99 07:45:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <abfcnzriefcnzarg.fklayb3.pminews@news1.attglobal.net>, "/2 User"
<nospam_evr@spam.net> writes:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:59:56 -0700, David Rocks wrote:
>
>>    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>>that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?
>>
>
>I have the HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C, I mainly got it for printing and making
>xerox type copies. Every once in a blue moon I have to boot windoze to do
>some scanning, so scanning is not really a big problem.
>
>We will probably never see an OS2 driver for these all in one machines.
>We can only hope Daniella buys one;-)
>

maybe we should all chip in and buy her one anonymously ? 

--
hrad ngravvd

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    03-Nov-99 09:11:02
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:06
Subj: Describe 5 Followup Review

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

   Okay, after the first few weeks I'll be going over my intial
review of Describe 5.  So, here goes...

> -Inserting Mathmatical Equations

   Does it really?  I guess it depends on what version.  There is an
Update CDROM that I have yet to get my hands on that has version
5.05.  As well I have also heard of a 5.06 floating around.  Anyhow,
under OS/2' Describe v5.00 there is no option for adding equations.
Under Windows 95 and Windows 3.1 the option is there but it is
grayed out.  The great manual that came with it has information for
everything else, *but* mathmatical equations.

> Only feature that is not found here that one would find in other
> word processors of that calibre (ie. WordPerfect 6.1, Word
> 6.0c) is a chart maker.

   Describe 5 as I said here did not have a chartmaker.  I never
realized how often I needed one when doing up my term papers. ;-)
The lack of this sort of sucks, however, there are workarounds.
One of which is to use the Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) function.
This is a decent workaround since you would be able to use whatever
spreadsheet program you are accustomed to using and making a chart
and then cutting/pasting it into Describe 5.  However, that does
present a problem when working with other platforms (Describe 5
has Windows 3.1, OS/2, Windows 95/NT versions all on the same CDROM
just to remind you all).  So, the better solution is to take that
one step further.  Use your spreadsheet program in order to create
that chart, then use a Graphics program in order to take a snapshot
of your desktop (or screen capture in otherwords).  Then size down
the image and crop it so that only the chart is shown and save it
as a JPEG file.

> The postscript filter did surprise me, though, never expected to
> see that format listed since some of the "advanced" word processors
> of today rarely have that, but it is of little consequence anyways
> since anyone can make a postscript document by just installing a
> postscript printer driver and having it set to save to file for
> printout.

   Describe 5 was only able to save files as PostScript, not read.
In a word, Describe's PostScript filter sucks.  It only saved the
text, not any of the images so you are in fact far better off
having a PostScript printer driver installed and having it setup
to save the output as a file.  Here are some common PostScript
printers; Apple Color LaserWriter 12/600, HP Color Laser/PS, QMS
Magicolr CX.  There a slew more of them.  Ask around, some will be
able to handle color output better than others or may match up
page setting wise better than others for your particular application.

   The only problem I had with the Describe 5 word processor at all
was under the Windows 95 platform in conjuntion with an S3 ViRGE/DX
video card and the SciTech Display Doctor 6.53 display drivers.  If
one has this combination then you will not be able to run Describe 5
above 256 colors.  Whenever I was in 16-bit or 24-bit or even 32-bit
video modes, it would give an error when launching Describe 5 for
Windows 95.  If you switch back to S3's ViRGE/DX driver then it will
work fine at any color depth.  Since I have no other video cards, I
can not tell if the problem was with SciTech Display Doctor in
general or if it was that in conjunction with the S3 ViRGE/DX card.

   One drawback that Describe 5 has is in DBCS (Double Byte Character
Support).  It has none.

   Overall, my experience with Describe 5 has been a very good one.
It has not failed me yet.  It certainly has all the main features that
most people will be using:

> -Spellcheck/Thesaurus/Hyphenation
> -Endnotes/Footnotes
> -Columns
> -Inserting Tables
> -Inserting Graphics
> -Page Numbering
> -Headers/Footers
> -WYSISYG/Draft/Outline views
> -Macros
> -Bulleted/Numbered Lists
> -Indents
> -Drawing
> -Customize Toolbar
> -Envelopes

   It is a very recommendable buy even in spite of the fact that
Describe Inc. is no longer in business.  Quick tip; someone in
comp.os.os2.marketplace is selling Describe 5 and manual for
$5!  As well I have heard that eBay has a lot of them up for
auction.  To sum up my earlier review of Describe 5, it is basically
WordPerfect 5.1 for Windows 3.1 only without the bugs and also
coming Windows 95/NT and OS/2 versions.  All of it on the one
CDROM.  It also came in both English and German versions of each
of the said operating systems.

> Now obviously, this is not the answer for your word processing
> needs if exchanging documents are a concern since some people
> may require loading up the latest WordPerfect or Word formats.
> I'm not sure if WordPerfect has viewers available freely
> but I know Microsoft does have Word Viewers for Windows 3.1/95/NT
> that one can download from them.  Lotus also has the same with
> their Word Pro product off their website.  But if you find yourself
> working with the latest WordPerfect, Word, or Word Pro document
> then Describe may not be for you which is kind of unfortunate.
> I can't think of any GUI-based word processor that sports these
> kinds of features and is available under that many platforms and
> won't require a good machine to run under.

   I found out later that Lotus Word Pro viewers are designed to
work for Lotus Notes so it can not be used as a regular application.
As well, it is only for the Word Pro 96 version.  Sorry, my bad.
   WordPerfect does not have downloadable viewers.  However, it
should be noted that WordPerfect 6/7/8 use basically the same format.
I noticed this when trying to save a document under WordPerfect 8
for Windows 95, it had WordPerfect 6/7/8 bunched in together like
that, while WordPerfect 5.0/5.1 were in a different catagory.

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From: Johannes.Hromadka@siemens.at                      03-Nov-99 11:27:10
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:06
Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA on WSeB and german Umlauts: Font Problem

From: Johannes Hromadka <Johannes.Hromadka@siemens.at>

Michael Kaply wrote:

I could do only some quick tests at this machine yet.

 
> Depending on who is rendering the font and in what way will determine which
fonts
> work.
 
> So bitmap fonts usually don't work, truetype works, ATM depends.

Tried to write a small file with á in CP 437 and 1004.

When I switch codepage in an OS/2 window and start E or EPM from this
window, they display the right charakters in all fonts I tried:

system Vio,
Time Roman Bitmap
Tms Rmn (Type 1)
Times Roman (TT).


Only NEtscape 4.61 has the problem with Tmn Rmn Type 1.


> We definitely know that S3 cards have had problems displaying 1004.
> 
> The browser is actually the best test of this though.
> 
> Set your font to Tms Rmn.
> 
> Go to http://members.aol.com/pspmikek/charsets
> 
> Select Latin-1 on the left.
> 
> If the characters in the table do not match the GIF below, it is definitely
a
> video card problem.


A great page, thanks. Could view it only here at work (Matrox Card) till
now. (Lack of time)

When back home I'l try the latest GRADD drivers.
The one shipped with WSeB resulted in a PMMMerge SYS3175 when I tried to
install the Crystal Sound drivers. So I switched to the latest native S3
Trio3D drivers dated May 98 8-(


I'll also give the scitech drivers a chance. I miss the 1154 resolution
in the IBM drivers.



       Greetings from Vienna

            Hannes

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From: stephb7@aei.ca                                    03-Nov-99 07:02:28
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Netscape script:  Rexx

From: Stephane Bessette <stephb7@aei.ca>

I would like to use Netscape v4.61 as my offline newsgroup reader. 
Currently, I have to manually log in to the internet, start Messenger,
open the file menu, select Offline, then Synchronize.  And in the
Synchronize Offline Items dialog, I have to click on the Synchronize
button.  After that, I wait until the download is completed.  That's not
the way I would like to go about it (it's too much the Windows' way).

Rather, I would like to include that download process in a Rexx script,
which is started every morning, at around 6h00.  I already have the
script (based on http://www.edm2.com/0502/os2routes.html) that logs on
to the internet, performs various actions (sets the time, download a TV
Guide) at specified times
(ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/schedule/schedb2.zip).  My question
is ow can I include a call to Netscape Messenger to download newsgroup
messages and email?

I would need one of two features.  A) A call that would return only when
all the mail and messages have been downloaded, at which point my script
would resume execution and disconnect from the internet.  B) The
Messenger window would close after it had downloaded all the messages. 
In my script, I would watch for the removal of the Netscape Messenger
entry in the Window List (via a timed delay and
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/misc/IsRun01.zip).

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From: nospam_ktk@netlabs.org                            03-Nov-99 13:24:26
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: Vice/2

From: "Adrian Gschwend" <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org>

On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 16:00:35 +0100, Thomas Bretz wrote:

>the first release of Vice/2 - the OS/2 port of VICE - the versatile
>commodore emulator - is available. There are many features missing yet,
>but the emulation (only C64 yet) should work and the whole
>functionallity should be available via command line.

very cool, thanks for your work!

cu


---
Adrian Gschwend
@ OS/2 Netlabs

ICQ: 22419590
ktk@netlabs.org
-------
The OS/2 OpenSource Project:
http://www.netlabs.org


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From: prather@infi.net                                  03-Nov-99 12:43:22
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: World atlas application

From: prather@infi.net (Jerry Prather)

Hi all,

My son has a WinXX application which I crave.  It has a series of
maps in which you can mark places you've been and/or routes
you've traveled throughout the world.  Is there anything similar
in OS/2?

Thanks in advance for any leads...

Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
					- Me (circa 1998)

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From: cocke@ibm.net                                     03-Nov-99 07:53:29
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 10:33:07
Subj: Re: NS4.6.1 copy&paste and XIT and/or Drag Text

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@ibm.net>

I use Xit 2.51 (and don't know what I'd do without it) and NS 4.61 
together with no problems.  

However, I'm also using WSeB, which seems to have had its WPS code 
mucked with.. What I _can't_ get to work is Object Navigator or the WPS 
extensions of BA/2 Pro - they crash the whole system dead, just as if it
were windows.



On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 16:55:24 GMT, babnospam@nospambigpond.com wrote:

>Has anybody else noticed that NS4.6.1 seems to have problems 
>co-existing with these utilities?
>
>After the first 10 or so copy and paste operations into list boxes 
>using the RMB popup menu, Netscape usually reverts to only allowing a 
>copy and paste from its own title bar.
>
>Then that stops working too.
>
>I have had problems on reboot (after NS froze the Desktop) with both 
>Drag Text and XIT according to checkini.
>
>NS4.6.1 is so brilliantly fast that I intend to keep using it for the 
>extensive research I have to do.  The failure of the copy and paste is
>frustrating though.
>
>If anybody else has had similar problems and found that closing XIT 
>and/or Drag Text has kept NS4.6.1 able to use its own copy and paste, 
>I would like to hear about it.
>
>ta,
>
>bab
>

========================================================================
Member: DNRC            Watcher: Babylon 5              User: OS/2 Warp

        If you're going to do something, do something worth doing.
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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                03-Nov-99 12:20:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>


Frank Kirk wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:10:26, mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote:
>
> > Hey you guys!
> >
> > What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, daemon
is
> > running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing...
wget is
> > never called, etc...

Check yer settings mate !
[location: wget folder - info folder - Awget Config icon]
change
"use_desktop = 0"
to
"use_desktop = 1"

Also note the scanning interval.

For more info about these settings: RTFM (Read The Fabuluous Manual) !

Remember this and repeat after me: Default installation and Default settings
are no
good. Never. Always Customize, because you are exceptional ! (Feel better know 
? ;-)

If you have done this already, check the "awget_error.log" . Maybe it has
trouble
finding/using wget.

I hope you enjoy Awget soon !

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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            03-Nov-99 07:48:18
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

For some files that I get/update on a regular basis, I have copies of
the "ToDo" object (it executes WGET) that I paste/or update the URL for
the file I want to download in to. 

Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> Hey you guys!
> 
> What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, daemon is
> running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing... wget
is
> never called, etc...
> 
> I tried setting it up to look for new links in the todo folder... did the
> reboot thing... still nada...
> 
> I'm using Comm/2 4.61ga, Warp 3.0 FP#40, awget 1.5.1.2 off of Hobbes and
wget
> 1.53...
> 
> Anyone know the magic? :')
> 
> Yes... I'm waiting WELL past the 30second sleep period... ;')
> 
> --
> 
>
*******************************************************************************

> *            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...           
 *
> *       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at:      
 *
> *                     http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx                    
 *
>
*******************************************************************************

> 
> /----------------------------------------\
> | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride |
> |         mcbrides@erols.com             |
> \----------------------------------------/
> 
> --

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: bandyo@wam.umd.edu                                03-Nov-99 09:45:26
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu>

You are welcome.  As someone else suggested check that you have 
wget.exe in the path.  I keep a copy in x:\tcpip\bin, where x is the 
drive where OS/2 is installed.

I had fooled around with the TCPIP and later found that "netstat -a" 
didn't work properly in my system.  It is a long shot, but you may 
want to give it a try.

Close awgetd.cmd if it is running. Make a copy of awgetd.cmd and 
rename it, awgetd.org.

Open awgetd.cmd in your favorite text editor and serach for "@netstat 
-a" (no quotes).

Comment out the following lines:

/* **************************************
  '@netstat -a | RXQUEUE' NewQueue

  do while queued() > 0
     parse pull . IP1 . Interface . . . IP2
     if Interface >= '10' then do
        Connect = 1
     end
  end
***************************************** */

Now add the following lines:


/* ************************************ */
  '@netstat -n | RXQUEUE' NewQueue

  do while queued() > 0
     parse pull . Interface . . . rest
     if Interface == '10:' then do
        Connect = 1
     end
  end
/* *********************************** */

If this does not work, I am fresh out of ideas.  YMMV.  

Sushenjit


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 11-3-99, 1:02:48 AM, mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote 
regarding Re: AWGET?:


> In article <19991102.9272659@LOCALHOST.umd.edu>,
> Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
> >Warp 3 handles URL differently than Warp 4.  As a result, when you
> >drag a link to desktop or anywhere else, you get a communicator
> >program object in Warp 3, and an URL object in Warp 4. AWGET can only 
>
> >handle the latter.
> >

> You're absolutely right! Warp 4 appears to create a file whereas in 
warp 3 it's
> just... am object? Anyway's, AWGET will not work in a warp 3.0 
system... At
> least not mine! :')

> >Try this instead.  Copy the link by right clicking and choosing copy. 
 >
> >Now click on the ADD URL icon in AWGET folder and paste the URL in 
the >
> >resulting dialog.
> >

> Did it... no joy...

> Thank you, very much, for your post.


> --

> 
***********************************************************************
********
> *            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...     
       *
> *       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project 
at:       *
> *                                                                      
       *
> *                      GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE!              
       *
> *                                                                      
       *
> *                     http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx              
       *
> 
***********************************************************************
********

> /----------------------------------------\
> | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride |
> |         mcbrides@erols.com             |
> \----------------------------------------/

> --



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From: howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com                      03-Nov-99 10:42:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Howard Wong <howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com>

First off, I am assuming you are putting the hard
drive in a "drawer" that can be removed from a
chassis that remains with the CPU box.

To reap full benefit of backups, the media holding
the backed up data should be stored in a location
away from the building the computer is located. 
This requires transporting the storage media on a
regular basis, which is not what a typical hard
drive is designed for and you risk damaging the
HD. Moreover, such damage may not be noticeable
until you NEED the data for recovery.

Tape/MO/CD-R/JAZ/whatever with removable
disk/cartridge may be more expensive one way or
another, you get the intended protection that data
backup offers.

Regards,
Howard Wong

rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:
> 
> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
> 
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
> 
> RJF
> 
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
> 
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
> 
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
> 
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
> 
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
> 
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> rjfreem@attglobal.net
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                03-Nov-99 11:08:23
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com>

yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote:

> It stops at 1.44 MEG and puts the rest on the second disk.

It sounds like your specifying the 2DISK option; if so, you shouldn't be; this
will force BOOTOS2 to think that DISK1 is a 1.44MB floppy.  Just run it
without the 2DISK option and BOOTOS2 should place all the files on the
single disk.

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
Internet : kenkahn@us.ibm.com
   Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
      VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10


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From: ariek@attglobal3.141592653589793...               03-Nov-99 16:27:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: PMMail: what limitations for non-US user?

Message sender: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net

From: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net (Arie Kazachin)

Hello!

I was about to download and register PMMail at the BMT Micro site but
there wwas a notice about export limitations of the "pro" version.
I would like to know, what features will be lacking for the export?
The e-mail filtering is really nice feature but it's done by the
company which software isn't for export (if I understand correctly).
What other limitations exist on PMMail sold outside US?

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR A HELP ! ! !
******************************************************************************
*   Arie Kazachin, Israel, e-mail: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net *
******************************************************************************
NOTE: before replying, leave only letters in my domain-name. Sorry, SPAM trap.

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From: joehenley@worldnet.att.net                        03-Nov-99 10:43:04
  To: mcbrides@erols.com                                03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: AWGET?

To: Jerry McBride <mcbrides@erols.com>
From: "Joseph O. Henley" <joehenley@worldnet.att.net>

Hi!

Why can't we just use WGET now?  Doesn't NS 4.61 support drag and drop?

Joe

Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> Hey you guys!
> 
> What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, daemon is
> running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing... wget
is
> never called, etc...
> 
> I tried setting it up to look for new links in the todo folder... did the
> reboot thing... still nada...
> 
> I'm using Comm/2 4.61ga, Warp 3.0 FP#40, awget 1.5.1.2 off of Hobbes and
wget
> 1.53...
> 
> Anyone know the magic? :')
> 
> Yes... I'm waiting WELL past the 30second sleep period... ;')
> 
> --
> 
>
*******************************************************************************

> *            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...           
 *
> *       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at:      
 *
> *                     http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx                    
 *
>
*******************************************************************************

> 
> /----------------------------------------\
> | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride |
> |         mcbrides@erols.com             |
> \----------------------------------------/
> 
> --

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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              03-Nov-99 23:05:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: alan@min.net.notspam

I run Quicken 98 Deluxe for Windows 3.1 under Warp.  I used to be able to
use it (and the version of M$ Internet Explorer 3.03 that came with it) to
update my portfolio and download updates to the program from the internet. 
This no longer works.  When I try to connect, I get a winsock error "Inet
not running" and then the choice to "abort/retry/ignore."  What causes
this winsock error, and how do I correct it?  I have one copy of
winsock.dll, and it's in my dpath (I've tried it in both
c:\os2\mdos\winos2 and f:\tcpip\dos\bin).

Internet Explorer causes a GPF.

I have both a cable modem and a dialup account, though my resolv and
resolv2 files reflect only the cable modem account because I don't know
how to include information from both accounts in those files.  Thus, I've
tried to set up Quicken's internet for direct connection to internet.

Thanks for any help.

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From: JHB@jita.nospam.demon.co.uk                       03-Nov-99 23:37:06
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: Re: PMMail: what limitations for non-US user?

From: JHB@jita.nospam.demon.co.uk (Jim Backus)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:27:51, ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net
(Arie Kazachin) wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> I was about to download and register PMMail at the BMT Micro site but
> there wwas a notice about export limitations of the "pro" version.
> I would like to know, what features will be lacking for the export?
> The e-mail filtering is really nice feature but it's done by the
> company which software isn't for export (if I understand correctly).
> What other limitations exist on PMMail sold outside US?

A careful look around the PMMail home site would probably tell you 
what the difference between the US and export versions is - it is 
almost certainly related to encryption - as you probably know the US 
has strict laws on export of crypto programmes.

As for usability - check the headers - I wouldn't use anything else.

Jim Backus  OS/2 user because it's better
bona fide replies to jimb(at)jita(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk

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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               03-Nov-99 18:52:26
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 07:45:40 GMT, hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

>In <abfcnzriefcnzarg.fklayb3.pminews@news1.attglobal.net>, "/2 User"
<nospam_evr@spam.net> writes:
>>On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:59:56 -0700, David Rocks wrote:
>>
>>>    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>>>that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?
>>>
>>
>>I have the HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C, I mainly got it for printing and making
>>xerox type copies. Every once in a blue moon I have to boot windoze to do
>>some scanning, so scanning is not really a big problem.
>>
>>We will probably never see an OS2 driver for these all in one machines.
>>We can only hope Daniella buys one;-)
>>
>
>maybe we should all chip in and buy her one anonymously ? 

Not a bad Idea;-)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
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From: crussell4@earthlink.net                           03-Nov-99 18:12:07
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: NS461 shuts down at some sites

From: Chuck Russell <crussell4@earthlink.net>

More and more when I visit a site, NS 461 shuts down
(closes). I'm using JAVA 1.1.7.

One of the sites is: http://www.olympiabus.com

Is this because the site is using an MS version of JAVA
which is incompatable with 1.1.7?

Or is it because my system is announcing that it is not a MS
OS? Recently I saw a fix to dupe a site into thinking that I
have a MS OS. I lost the instructions for the fix so could
someone please send me the instructions?


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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            03-Nov-99 20:23:15
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-7eMDR3bd5mvZ@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>, 
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com says...
>On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:50, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> a 
>crit dans un message:
>snipt
>> >
>> >Perhaps my own filters are a cause for lost continuity here. I do filter 
>> >heavily, and easily, pretty much at the drop of a heavy-handed hat.
>> 
>> Your filters would be responsible for you inability to follow this thread
or 
>> else you would know that this thread is not about one's choice of OS.
>> 
>> Try determining the context before determining any implications.
>
>Or, hearing a harbinger of another hat dropping, adding a new filter...

To be losing sleep...

>
>Good luck,
>
>Buddy
>
>Buddy Donnelly
>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
>
>
>

-- 
---------------------------------------
David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     03-Nov-99 18:09:03
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: NS4.6.1 copy&paste and XIT and/or Drag Text

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:55:24, babnospam@nospambigpond.com wrote:

> Has anybody else noticed that NS4.6.1 seems to have problems 
> co-existing with these utilities?
> 
> After the first 10 or so copy and paste operations into list boxes 
> using the RMB popup menu, Netscape usually reverts to only allowing a 
> copy and paste from its own title bar.
> 
> Then that stops working too.
> 
> I have had problems on reboot (after NS froze the Desktop) with both 
> Drag Text and XIT according to checkini.
> 
> NS4.6.1 is so brilliantly fast that I intend to keep using it for the 
> extensive research I have to do.  The failure of the copy and paste is
> frustrating though.
> 
> If anybody else has had similar problems and found that closing XIT 
> and/or Drag Text has kept NS4.6.1 able to use its own copy and paste, 
> I would like to hear about it.
> 
> ta,
> 
> bab

I use Dragtext 3.1, and haven't noticed anything unusual (I don't do 
very much copy/paste in Netscape). 

Perhaps, it is the combination of Dragtext, and XIT, that is causing 
your problems. You can disable Dragtext for individual programs, 
perhaps doing that for Netscape will help, or at least indicate that 
there might be a conflict.

Hope this helps...
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     03-Nov-99 18:09:10
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: updated AWGET

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:39:09, postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote:

> In <381F3B9A.7A9EFFF9@wcom.com>, on 11/02/99 
>    at 07:37 PM, Will Honea <will.honea@wcom.com> said:
> 
> 
> > 
> >-<Attachment #1, awget1514.zip (77 Kb), application/x-zip-compressed
> >base64>-
> 
> I installed this and all of my downloads keep failing now.
> 
> I did have a previous version installed.
> 
> --
> GK
>             
> FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
> OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 
> There are 31 Processes with 123 Threads.
> This machine's uptime is 7d 0h 29m 19s 789ms.
> 
> 

What does the AWget error log say???
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     03-Nov-99 18:08:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:16:34, "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com> 
wrote:

> The FPs specify using a certain level of
> the CSF Boot Disk, which IS bootable already, for installing the FPs.
> 

I don't think this is true anymore. It seems to me that the README 
says that you need to boot your Utility disks, and then insert the CSF
disk. (Makes sense, since they were running into the same problems as 
the utility disks, where the files were too big to fit).
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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               03-Nov-99 18:22:26
  To: camilla@primenet.com                              03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

To: camilla@primenet.com
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
> 
> I have to get a new tape drive.  
Check http://www.cristie.com/
I am looking to purchase one of their drives (admittedly a large
autoloader) and they may be willing to bundle their backup software for
os/2.  Well if you ask them nicely they will as they seem to bundle the
Win95 crap with them.

-- 
Remove REMOVE_ME to reply.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee,
Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom.
Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
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From: blemon@igloo.com                                  03-Nov-99 18:55:24
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: Barry Lemon <blemon@igloo.com>

I don't know if this is your problem, but the following comes from the
readme file:

<begin>
If you use Netscape Communicator for OS/2, which is not able to drop URL
in
folders, just set the key "use_desktop" to "1" in a configuration file
and drop URL on Desktop. The daemon itself will move them to a folder
"ToDo".
<end>

I don't use Communicator, but I seem to recall reading some stuff that
said that the problem with dropping links to folders has been fixed, but
maybe AWGET doesn't "know" this.

I am using Warp Connect, but Navigator not Communicator, and I have no
problems.  Actually, what I did was put the ToDo shadow on my
LaunchPad.  Whenever I have a link for downloading, I can Ctrl-Esc,
select the LaunchPad, which brings it to the forefront over my browser,
then right-click and drag the link (right-clicking allows the LaunchPad
to stay to the fore) to the ToDo.  Works like a champ!

Hope this helps!!!

Barry
Jerry McBride wrote:
> 
> Hey you guys!
> 
> What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, daemon is
> running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing... wget
is
> never called, etc...
> 
> I tried setting it up to look for new links in the todo folder... did the
> reboot thing... still nada...
> 
> I'm using Comm/2 4.61ga, Warp 3.0 FP#40, awget 1.5.1.2 off of Hobbes and
wget
> 1.53...
> 
> Anyone know the magic? :')
> 
> Yes... I'm waiting WELL past the 30second sleep period... ;')
> 
> --
> 
>
*******************************************************************************

> *            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...           
 *
> *       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at:      
 *
> *                     http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx                    
 *
>
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> 
> /----------------------------------------\
> | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride |
> |         mcbrides@erols.com             |
> \----------------------------------------/
> 
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From: nitebird@voicenet.com                             03-Nov-99 13:23:14
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Describe 5 Followup Review

From: nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)

In <7vou78$lo0$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, on 11/03/99 
   at 09:11 AM, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) said:

>:   Okay, after the first few weeks I'll be going over my intial review
>:of Describe 5.  So, here goes...

>:> -Inserting Mathmatical Equations

>:   Does it really?  I guess it depends on what version.  There is an
>:Update CDROM that I have yet to get my hands on that has version 5.05. 
>:As well I have also heard of a 5.06 floating around.  Anyhow, under
>:OS/2' Describe v5.00 there is no option for adding equations. Under
>:Windows 95 and Windows 3.1 the option is there but it is grayed out. 
>:The great manual that came with it has information for everything
>:else, *but* mathmatical equations.

The equation editor is a clunky character mode separate program. For a
while Describe wanted one to purchase the equation editor. It was
actually a trial version of a program written by another company that
then attempted to sell you a more complete version. The version
distributed by Describe was essentially undocumented.

>:> Now obviously, this is not the answer for your word processing
>:> needs if exchanging documents are a concern since some people
>:> may require loading up the latest WordPerfect or Word formats.
>:> I'm not sure if WordPerfect has viewers available freely
>:> but I know Microsoft does have Word Viewers for Windows 3.1/95/NT
>:> that one can download from them.  Lotus also has the same with
>:> their Word Pro product off their website.  But if you find yourself
>:> working with the latest WordPerfect, Word, or Word Pro document
>:> then Describe may not be for you which is kind of unfortunate.
>:> I can't think of any GUI-based word processor that sports these
>:> kinds of features and is available under that many platforms and
>:> won't require a good machine to run under.

Yes, the Describe filters will often let me down, but I have very little
need for other formats.

I use a Postscript printer and Describe documents, even routine letters,
look so good (it's the postscript fonts and Describe typesetting, not my
graphics acumen) that many will ask me, "where did you get that?"

There is an overall elegance to Describe that is lacking in the other
word processors I've tried. I once worked over a lengthy curriculum
vitae for a friend that had been picked at with WORD and WORD PERFECT
(it was a mess). My reformatting in Describe was just a bunch of cheap
shots. Transferring the document back to WORD was difficult (not because
of the filters, but the general lack of "power" in WORD). Even though
the documents were identical, character for character and font for font,
printed on the same printer, the Describe document looked almost like it
was photo typeset, while the WORD document looked like a "nice try". In
WORD (95) I did not have the same control over formatting and basic
typesetting parameters.

I also used the Win95 version of Describe for a while. It's the best WIN
95 program I've used. When WORD decides to make a snapshot of your
document, the user interface is locked out. The only thing you'll notice
when Describe makes a snapshot is some disk activity. Other than using
the Win95 GUI conventions, Describe had the same look and feel as the
OS/2 version. Unfortunately, I did not have a printer connected to the
Win95 system and can't comment on the ultimate print quality using
TrueType fonts.

While no substitute for an official graphics program, the Describe
drawing tools are very convenient to use.

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From: rubbe@ibm.net                                     03-Nov-99 17:29:04
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Pilot Desktop 1.0

From: Cassio Roberto Pellegrim <rubbe@ibm.net>

Hi there ...

Is there anybody that could run  PILOT DESKTOP 1.0 at WINOS2 ??

This application is at WIN32S 1.30 level ...

I've heard about some 1.30 WIN32S application that runs at WINOS2 ...
Any hint ??

Thanks for all ...

Cassio R Pellegrim
Casrob@br.ibm.com

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               03-Nov-99 14:39:09
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop 1.0

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Cassio Roberto Pellegrim wrote:
> 
> Hi there ...
> 
> Is there anybody that could run  PILOT DESKTOP 1.0 at WINOS2 ??
> 
> This application is at WIN32S 1.30 level ...
> 
> I've heard about some 1.30 WIN32S application that runs at WINOS2 ...
> Any hint ??

	 was never able ot get this to run, thus the reason why I wrote the
pure Java jSyncManager (available from
htp://yaztromo.idirect.com/java-pilot-dev.html), which supports plug-in
jConduits, runs under OS/2 with a Java v1.1 JRE and the Java Comm API
installed, and actually synchronizes faster than Pilot Desktop does :).

	It's a free download for personal use, so feel free ot play around with
it.

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  03-Nov-99 15:44:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <381E8B80.333B@eoni.com>, on 11/01/99 at 10:58 PM,
   Michael Mahoney <mmahoney@eoni.com> said:

>David Rocks wrote:
>> 
>>     I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>> that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?



>Something for you to consider:

>If any function of a multifunction device fails you will probably lose
>ALL functions.

>Michael

Not true.  It is a Printer, a Scanner, and a Fax machine.  All three are
independent functions.  My scanner failed, on a Canon c-3000 but every
thingelse worked.  It contrinued to print and to get and print faxes. 
Just couldn't send any.   -- 
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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  03-Nov-99 15:47:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <381E0D5C.3D58784D@nmsu.edu>, on 11/01/99 at 02:59 PM,
   David Rocks <rocks@nmsu.edu> said:

>    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?

You will probably never scan in OS2 with one of these machines, although
my present Canon c-3500 works as my primary printer as well as for sending
and receiving black and white faxes..  The printer will emulate a lot of
others and can use lots of Canon or the Omni driver.  The trick here is
that there is a  Dos Printer mode available from the machine panel and you
know what that means.  If you look at a Canon check in the store or on
their web page that Dos mode is available.  It works very well taking
little room, and doing what it is supposed to do.  I just didn/t bother
with the CDrom they sent.  Also since the functions are really independent
except for scanning and send fax, the thing will continue to work as well
as any other printer.  I bought it for under 200 at buy.com last week and
since we have standardized on Canon as sole source for printers in this
family, the savings on ink cartridges are fomidable

There are posters to this newsgroup and others who take the word of a
manufacturer to be gospel.  Well it aint so.  Incidently the latest Canon
win 3.1 drivers work very well in WinOs2 despite Canons statement that
they will not work.  

-- 
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mchasson@ibm.net
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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    03-Nov-99 20:59:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Squid WWW Cache

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

	How do you set this up to work with Internet Junkbuster under 
Netscape?


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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  03-Nov-99 16:04:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 at 12:48 AM,
   Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)
said:


>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.

At the present time, maybe if there are any left you can buy an AIWA SCSI
tape drive which uses TRAVAN 4 cartridges.  Try computergeeks and
http://www.cc-solutions.com/  also called complete computer solutions.  I
got one of these a year ago and it is great.  I am running it off of a
cheap SCSI card with Nova bak.  These two vendors are also a terrific
source for SCSI and video and NIC cards as well as other stuff.

>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 03-Nov-99 16:53:23
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: Netscape script: Rexx

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Stephane Bessette <stephb7@aei.ca> wrote:

>I would like to use Netscape v4.61 as my offline newsgroup reader. 
>Currently, I have to manually log in to the internet, start Messenger,
>open the file menu, select Offline, then Synchronize.  And in the
>Synchronize Offline Items dialog, I have to click on the Synchronize
>button.  After that, I wait until the download is completed.  That's not
>the way I would like to go about it (it's too much the Windows' way).
>
>Rather, I would like to include that download process in a Rexx script,
>which is started every morning, at around 6h00.  I already have the
>script (based on http://www.edm2.com/0502/os2routes.html) that logs on
>to the internet, performs various actions (sets the time, download a TV
>Guide) at specified times
>(ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/schedule/schedb2.zip).  My question
>is ow can I include a call to Netscape Messenger to download newsgroup
>messages and email?
>
>I would need one of two features.  A) A call that would return only when
>all the mail and messages have been downloaded, at which point my script
>would resume execution and disconnect from the internet.  B) The
>Messenger window would close after it had downloaded all the messages. 
>In my script, I would watch for the removal of the Netscape Messenger
>entry in the Window List (via a timed delay and
>ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/misc/IsRun01.zip).

Can't help you with Netscape (though I would be surprised
(pleasantly)) if it could do what you ask.  But particularly
for the kind of batch processing you're after, as far as
newsgroup reading goes, I don't think you could do much
better than Soup & Yarn.  You can find a very good guide to
setting it up -- it's not that hard, and one of the many
advantages is you can configure whichever editor you want
for message composing, and use it for mail as well -- at:

    http://www.os2ezine.com/v1n8/yarnsoup.htm


-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    03-Nov-99 21:04:29
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

mchasson@ibm.net wrote:

: There are posters to this newsgroup and others who take the word of a
: manufacturer to be gospel.  Well it aint so.  Incidently the latest Canon
: win 3.1 drivers work very well in WinOs2 despite Canons statement that
: they will not work.  

	No kidding, I've been pretty cheesed at that in their README.TXT 
files for their printer drivers.  They've *always* worked, in fact, I can 
not think of *one* printer who has Windows 3.1 support that would not 
function in this manner at all under Win-OS/2.


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From: Johannes.Hromadka@gmx.net                         03-Nov-99 22:54:01
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA on WSeB and german Umlauts: Font Problem

From: Hannes Hromadka <Johannes.Hromadka@gmx.net>


Michael Kaply wrote:
 
> We definitely know that S3 cards have had problems displaying 1004.

It still has the problem 8-(

I switched to the latest scitech gradd driver today and the characters
display fine in the Tms Rmn Type-1 font.

Thanks for your help.
 

      Greetings from Vienna

             Hannes

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          03-Nov-99 21:48:01
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:50, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> a 
Úcrit dans un message:
snipt
> >
> >Perhaps my own filters are a cause for lost continuity here. I do filter 
> >heavily, and easily, pretty much at the drop of a heavy-handed hat.
> 
> Your filters would be responsible for you inability to follow this thread or 

> else you would know that this thread is not about one's choice of OS.
> 
> Try determining the context before determining any implications.

Or, hearing a harbinger of another hat dropping, adding a new filter...


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      04-Nov-99 00:07:11
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: im looking for a decent browser for OS/2 Warp 3...anyone have one?

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <eSJT3.1117$sR5.9250@newsfeed.slurp.net>, "user" <kf4lne@hotmail.com>
writes:

>i need a full java supporting browser for OS/2 Warp 3 for use on my LAN. any
>suggestions would be apreciated

Have you tried Netscape?  You can download v4.61 from IBM's 
"Software Choice" web site.  While you're there pick up Java 
v1.1.8 also; works a treat with Netscape.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      04-Nov-99 00:16:25
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <MPG.128815c55584d6f989a91@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:

>>Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:22:55, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John 
>>Thompson) a écrit:
>>
>>> In <MPG.1286a2012dd35a4a989a8f@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:
>>> 
>>> >One can take joy in using one's tools without feeling very proud of that
tool. 
>>> >I used OS/2 for some time and enjoyed it. I switched to NT and enjoyed
using 
>>> >it. 
>>> 
>>> That's nice.  So why exactly are you here?

>Free internet, last I checked. If you don't like my post, use a filter.

IOW, you're freeely admitting to being a troll, with no other 
purpose here besides stirring up trouble, just like the common 
cesspool spammer?

>I'm using Win2000 RC 1, and I am enjoying it. I was just trying 
>the keep the topic focused.

Win2000 "focused" in an OS/2 newsgroup?  Yeah, right. 

        *plonk*

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    03-Nov-99 19:38:04
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

Do you also have the x:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS driver loaded, either in
CONFIG.SYS or in DOS Settings/Device?

Graham.

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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            03-Nov-99 23:18:06
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <c1.2c.2Sn8R7$1VR@rhino_house.attglobal.net>, 
nospam@savebandwidth.invalid says...
>In <MPG.128815c55584d6f989a91@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:
>
>>>Mon, 1 Nov 1999 03:22:55, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John 
>>>Thompson) a écrit:
>>>
>>>> In <MPG.1286a2012dd35a4a989a8f@news1.mnsinc.com>, David H. McCoy
<forgitaboutit@fake.com> writes:
>>>> 
>>>> >One can take joy in using one's tools without feeling very proud of that 
tool. 
>>>> >I used OS/2 for some time and enjoyed it. I switched to NT and enjoyed
using 
>>>> >it. 
>>>> 
>>>> That's nice.  So why exactly are you here?
>
>>Free internet, last I checked. If you don't like my post, use a filter.
>
>IOW, you're freeely admitting to being a troll, with no other 
>purpose here besides stirring up trouble, just like the common 
>cesspool spammer?

In other words, I am talking about foolish pride in an operating system. You, 
clearly feeling the pain of your pride, resort to boorish insults.

>>I'm using Win2000 RC 1, and I am enjoying it. I was just trying 
>>the keep the topic focused.
>
>Win2000 "focused" in an OS/2 newsgroup?  Yeah, right. 
>
>       *plonk*

Nice "clip" job. That's the problem with people like yourself. The facts just 
don't support you, so you have to resort to "create" editing and factual 
distortion.

How truly sad you are.

Plonk.

>-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)
>
>

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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco...               03-Nov-99 23:30:24
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net

In <38205E0C.E2FF1F3F@us.ibm.com>, on 11/03/99 
   at 11:08 AM, Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com> said:

>yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote:

When you do that it dies with a disk full error.  It also won't place a PM
on the A drive eventhough the drive is really 120MEG.

Roland

>> It stops at 1.44 MEG and puts the rest on the second disk.

>It sounds like your specifying the 2DISK option; if so, you shouldn't be;
>this will force BOOTOS2 to think that DISK1 is a 1.44MB floppy.  Just run
>it without the 2DISK option and BOOTOS2 should place all the files on the
>single disk.

>Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author) Internet :
>kenkahn@us.ibm.com
>   Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
>      VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10


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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 04-Nov-99 07:17:03
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:21
Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA on WSeB and german Umlauts: Font Problem

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <381F045B.3042411D@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>, Michael Kaply
<mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> writes:

>Depending on who is rendering the font and in what way will determine which
>fonts work.
>
>So bitmap fonts usually don't work, truetype works, ATM depends.
>
>We definitely know that S3 cards have had problems displaying 1004.
>The browser is actually the best test of this though.
>
snipped stuff >

okay, now I am totally confused. In an Endless Quest to make dbcs work
in OS/2 I've discovered that IBM's answer to the international languages
problem is "codepage switching." From what I can discover, using a unicode
font in a locale-aware app opened *from the codepage it was generated
in*  is the only way you can guarantee that what you'll see is what was 
written.  Obviously this isn't gonna work very well over the Internet, where 
webpages are written locally using whatever codepage that language uses . . . 
so how *does* a program such as Netscape correctly display pages in German,
in Rumanian, in Simplified Chinese when the app is opened from a codepage
437 or 850 environment ?


>Mike Kaply
>IBM
>
>

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 04-Nov-99 09:16:03
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Re: Netscape script: Rexx

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <r7KI4oXf0fif092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes:
>Stephane Bessette <stephb7@aei.ca> wrote:
>
>>I would like to use Netscape v4.61 as my offline newsgroup reader. 

>>Rather, I would like to include that download process in a Rexx script,
>>which is started every morning, at around 6h00.  I already have the
>>script (based on http://www.edm2.com/0502/os2routes.html) that logs on
>>to the internet, performs various actions (sets the time, download a TV
>>Guide) at specified times
>>(ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/schedule/schedb2.zip).  My question
>>is how can I include a call to Netscape Messenger to download newsgroup
>>messages and email?
>
>Can't help you with Netscape (though I would be surprised
>(pleasantly)) if it could do what you ask.  But particularly
>for the kind of batch processing you're after, as far as
>newsgroup reading goes, I don't think you could do much
>better than Soup & Yarn.  You can find a very good guide to
>setting it up -- it's not that hard, and one of the many
>advantages is you can configure whichever editor you want
>for message composing, and use it for mail as well -- at:
>
>    http://www.os2ezine.com/v1n8/yarnsoup.htm
>
>

Another possible answer that you might like even better is to install 
Changi, an NNTP server. It works GREAT with NR/2, is fairly straight-
forward to install, and gives a lot of capability to your news activities.
Hobbes has an earlier version - changi101.zip I believe - or go to
http://www.egnite.com for the latest and greatest news and views. 

It's a little bit of a hassle initially, but the instructions are very good
and the results well worth the effort.  ***** 


>-- 
>Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
>readme@ http://www.ray-field.com


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From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com                             04-Nov-99 16:59:29
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Re: NS461 shuts down at some sites

From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com (taiQ)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:12:14, Chuck Russell <crussell4@earthlink.net> 
thought aloud:

> More and more when I visit a site, NS 461 shuts down
> (closes). I'm using JAVA 1.1.7.
> 
> One of the sites is: http://www.olympiabus.com
> 
> Is this because the site is using an MS version of JAVA
> which is incompatable with 1.1.7?
> 
> Or is it because my system is announcing that it is not a MS
> OS? Recently I saw a fix to dupe a site into thinking that I
> have a MS OS. I lost the instructions for the fix so could
> someone please send me the instructions?

I went there with NS4.61 w/ Java 1.18 (+ Hursley runtime update) and 
NS 4.61 survived. The page loaded fine and gave message "Applet 
BtnPlayer Initializing". Moments later I got "Applet BtnPlayer can't 
start: ERROR". This was with Junkbuster currently set to give 
"HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.x (Macintosh)", should that make any 
difference. Seems like a Java problem though.

If anybody's interested, I've got another site which kills NS4.61 
(with or without Java or Javascript and regardless of the USER_AGENT 
setting) while NS2.02 handles it just fine...


Rgds,
-- 
 taiQ

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From: delete_me_iobbc@gcn.net.tw                        04-Nov-99 16:59:27
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: RealPlayer for OS/2?

From: Information Office BBC <delete_me_iobbc@gcn.net.tw>

Is there RealPlayer for OS/2?
Where can I download it?


--

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E-mail: iobbc "AT" gcn.net.tw


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From: clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk                        04-Nov-99 09:13:24
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: "Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk>

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:05:23 GMT, alan@min.net.notspam wrote:

:>I run Quicken 98 Deluxe for Windows 3.1 under Warp.  I used to be able to
:>use it (and the version of M$ Internet Explorer 3.03 that came with it) to
:>update my portfolio and download updates to the program from the internet. 
:>This no longer works.  When I try to connect, I get a winsock error "Inet
:>not running" and then the choice to "abort/retry/ignore."  What causes
:>this winsock error, and how do I correct it?  I have one copy of
:>winsock.dll, and it's in my dpath (I've tried it in both
:>c:\os2\mdos\winos2 and f:\tcpip\dos\bin).
:>
:>Internet Explorer causes a GPF.
:>
:>I have both a cable modem and a dialup account, though my resolv and
:>resolv2 files reflect only the cable modem account because I don't know
:>how to include information from both accounts in those files.  Thus, I've
:>tried to set up Quicken's internet for direct connection to internet.
:>
:>Thanks for any help.
:>
:>


I lost inet routing from WinOS2 by somehow losing my ETC variable in the
autoexec.bat thereby rendering Realplayer inoperable.

Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)

and re-ordered my PATH
to

PATH=e:\tcpip\dos\bin;E:\TCPIP\DOS\ETC;E:\OS2;E:\OS2\MDOS;E:\;E:\OS2\MDOS\WINO
S2;e:\os2\mdos\winos2\system


everything worked again.

Maybe it's as simple as that for you too ?

Hope this helps,

,c.

-- 
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ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/science/ellie03.zip
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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  04-Nov-99 09:25:14
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:16:43, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) 
wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:17:56, "Dilbert Firestorm" 
> <wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:

-------------snip-------------
 
> You can, manually, fix the problem, by creating the diskette(s) (most 
> users will require the 2DISK option), and then copy 
> x:\OS2\DLL\SESMGR.DLL to A:\OS2\DLL. I also, highly, recommend getting
> LXLITE, and using the LX parameter, to compress the executables as the
> disks are being created.

And where is LXLITE? I do not see it on the EWS site, nor on such places as
Hobbes.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   04-Nov-99 02:42:14
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: RealPlayer for OS/2?

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

Information Office BBC wrote:
> 
> Is there RealPlayer for OS/2?
> Where can I download it?
> 
> --
> 
> Allen Chen
> E-mail: iobbc "AT" gcn.net.tw

There seems to be a text mode player but it does not handle the G2
format which by now is pretty much a must. Check Hobbes
-- 

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   04-Nov-99 02:44:29
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

Stan Goodman wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:16:43, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)
> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:17:56, "Dilbert Firestorm"
> > <wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:
> 
> -------------snip-------------
> 
> > You can, manually, fix the problem, by creating the diskette(s) (most
> > users will require the 2DISK option), and then copy
> > x:\OS2\DLL\SESMGR.DLL to A:\OS2\DLL. I also, highly, recommend getting
> > LXLITE, and using the LX parameter, to compress the executables as the
> > disks are being created.
> 
> And where is LXLITE? I do not see it on the EWS site, nor on such places as
> Hobbes.

http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~dbareis/zip3rdp/lxlt121.zip

> 
> -------------
> Stan Goodman
> Qiryat Tiv'on
> Israel
> 
> Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
> me. Sorry.
> Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.
> 
> 

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               04-Nov-99 03:59:18
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: warp 3 & 4 install

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

just curious

what's the procedure for installing warps 3 & 4 when it doesn't have support
for the new devices say like Matrox Millenium G200 or BT-952 dual scsi card?



Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509


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From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu                             04-Nov-99 10:29:00
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: RealPlayer for OS/2?

From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu

Kris Kadela writes:

> Allen Chen wrote:

>> Is there RealPlayer for OS/2?

Not in an OS/2-specific format.  The Windows 3.1 version works under
WINOS2, however.

>> Where can I download it?

You can get the Windows 3.1 version at www.real.com

> There seems to be a text mode player

The Windows 3.1 version isn't what I call a "text mode" player.

> but it does not handle the G2 format which by now is pretty much
> a must.

Depends on what you want to use it for.  I've used RealPlayer to
listen to live sports broadcasts, and it works.  It's not the
most robust application available, but with decent drivers, it
works reasonably well, especially if you don't keep the CPU busy
doing other things (like scrolling text in a command window).

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From: cocke@catherders.com                              04-Nov-99 06:28:10
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: warp 3 & 4 install

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>

Install for vanilla VGA, then install the drivers later.  Painless, 
really.  I've got the Matrox AGP card here - works nicely with the 
Matrox drivers - I didn't even install GRADD.


On Thu, 04 Nov 99 03:59:36 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

>just curious
>
>what's the procedure for installing warps 3 & 4 when it doesn't have support
>for the new devices say like Matrox Millenium G200 or BT-952 dual scsi card?
>
>
>
>Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
>
>
>

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From: cb@lim.nl                                         04-Nov-99 13:58:16
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: Re: RealPlayer for OS/2?

From: Colin Brace <cb@lim.nl>

In <7vrn5d$lqj$1@news.hawaii.edu>, on 11/04/99 
   at 10:29 AM, tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu said:

> Depends on what you want to use it for.  I've used RealPlayer to listen
> to live sports broadcasts, and it works.  It's not the most robust
> application available, but with decent drivers, it works reasonably
> well, especially if you don't keep the CPU busy doing other things (like
> scrolling text in a command window).

yeah, it works under winos2, although you lose sound in os/2 while it is
loaded, and like the above poster notes it doesn't multitask well.

I also tried the text mode thing:

[from the readme]

          LB Real Audio Player for OS/2 ver. 0.02

  This is a quick and dirty port of Amiga Real Audio decoder 1.1/2.0 with
DART
  playback. 


but I couldn't get it to work.

Since I listen to streaming audio quite regularly, I would love a native
os/2 player but such a thing doesn't seem immediately forthcoming...


-- 
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  Amsterdam
  http://www.lim.nl


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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                04-Nov-99 09:13:18
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com>

yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote:

> When you do that it dies with a disk full error.  It also won't place a PM
> on the A drive eventhough the drive is really 120MEG.
>

Run with the TRACE option and send me the resulting LOG file so I can see
what's going on.

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
Internet : kenkahn@us.ibm.com
   Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
      VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10


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From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com                                04-Nov-99 09:16:21
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: Kenneth Kahn <kenkahn@us.ibm.com>

Stan Goodman wrote:

> And where is LXLITE? I do not see it on the EWS site, nor on such places as
> Hobbes.

The BOOTOS2.DOC file under the LX option specifically lists a site (LEO) where
you can get this file (I just checked and it's still there).

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
Internet : kenkahn@us.ibm.com
   Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
      VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10


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From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com                       04-Nov-99 14:52:24
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Advanced configurations for Netscape 4.6.1?

From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com

When I am accessing:

http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/

and browsing through the Artist Index,  NS4.6.1 crashes when I click 
on any link after the letter K.

This is a huge site and I am wondering if I should have a much larger 
disk and memory cache enabled to handle it.   I have experimented with
various combinations up to 4MB memory cache and 7MB disk cache.

Can anybody help?

bab

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From: dtander@agt.net                                   04-Nov-99 15:36:01
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: no audio from cdplayer

From: dtander@agt.net (David T. Anderson)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:59:44, nemo@union.edu wrote:

> Greetings!
> 
> I just discovered that my music cd-player isn't working in Warp, FP10. It
> works when booted to Win95 when I can't get a sound out of it when booted
> to OS/2. I do have system sounds and can play wav's, midi's, etc.
> 
> Just need a fast tip where to look for trouble-shooting. Couldn't find
> anything on deja.com.

I tried reinstalling my audio drivers, but no dice....so I uninstalled
and reinstalled Multimedia entirely, and that worked out fine.   The 
selective reinstall process didn't kill my custom soundschemes, or my 
WarpTV drivers, so it was a fairly painless procedure.

I haven't reinstalled FP12, or the Netscape Plugin Pak, which are the 
only other MM-affecting additions I can think of having made over the 
last little while that may have affected the CD player.  I'll be 
watching to see if either one make a difference....

David T. Anderson
Calgary, Alberta

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          04-Nov-99 16:10:06
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:25:28, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) wrote:

:where is LXLITE?

 ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/archiver/lxlt121.zip

-- 
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From: kasommer@sherrill.kiva.net                        04-Nov-99 09:39:11
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: PMMail: what limitations for non-US user?

From: kasommer@sherrill.kiva.net (Kim A. Sommer)

In article <7vpnq7$pf8$1@news.ibm.net.il>,
Arie Kazachin <ariek3.14159265358979323846@ibm.net> wrote:
>Hello!
>
>I was about to download and register PMMail at the BMT Micro site but
>there wwas a notice about export limitations of the "pro" version.
>I would like to know, what features will be lacking for the export?
>The e-mail filtering is really nice feature but it's done by the
>company which software isn't for export (if I understand correctly).
>What other limitations exist on PMMail sold outside US?
>

The export limitation deal with cryptography.  That lmitation may be
changing soon.  You do not lose any of the filtering capabilities with the
regular version.

Kim

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From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com               04-Nov-99 18:27:06
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:21
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com (Paul Saletan)

A suggestion and a plea:

1. Netscape 2.02 will drag and drop the correct objects to the ToDo
folder so that the AWGET daemon will see them.  This is the only
reason I keep it around after NS 4.61, other than the smaller memory
footprint.

2. It seems that the only thing AWGET needs when it reads the file you
create in the ToDo folder is for the first line to contain the URL.
If some clever programmer would show us Warp 3 users a workaround to
achieve this I'd be very appreciative.  For example, a program object
on the desktop that, when you dragged and dropped a Netscape URL
object onto it, outputted the URL as a one-line file in the ToDo
folder.  Or perhaps easier, a Rexx routine that would regularly scan
the desktop or the ToDo folder for the Netscape program objects, read
the URL's stored in them, and create the proper text files.

I'm glad to get some confirmation Warp 3 is the reason Netscape and
AWGET don't work as expected.  I posted a question about this a couple
of months back and thought there was something I had misconfigured.

AWGET (along with WGET) are great programs -- IMO the best
"productivity" software I've ever installed for OS/2 because I don't
waste a minute monitoring a download.  And they are much more
persistent and reliable than downloading files using a web browser.


Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu> wrote:

>Warp 3 handles URL differently than Warp 4.  As a result, when you 
>drag a link to desktop or anywhere else, you get a communicator 
>program object in Warp 3, and an URL object in Warp 4. AWGET can only 
>handle the latter.  
>
>Try this instead.  Copy the link by right clicking and choosing copy.  
>Now click on the ADD URL icon in AWGET folder and paste the URL in the 
>resulting dialog.
>
>YMMV
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>On 11-2-99, 4:10:26 AM, mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote 
>regarding AWGET?:
>
>
>> Hey you guys!
>
>> What's the magic to getting AWGET to work? I've got it installed, 
>daemon is
>> running, drag a link off communicator to the desktop and... nothing... 
>wget is
>> never called, etc...
>
>> I tried setting it up to look for new links in the todo folder... did 
>the
>> reboot thing... still nada...
>
>> I'm using Comm/2 4.61ga, Warp 3.0 FP#40, awget 1.5.1.2 off of Hobbes 
>and wget
>> 1.53...
>
>> Anyone know the magic? :')
>
>> Yes... I'm waiting WELL past the 30second sleep period... ;')


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     04-Nov-99 18:48:16
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:21
Subj: Re: NS461 shuts down at some sites

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:12:14, Chuck Russell <crussell4@earthlink.net> 
wrote:

> More and more when I visit a site, NS 461 shuts down
> (closes). I'm using JAVA 1.1.7.
> 
> One of the sites is: http://www.olympiabus.com
> 
> Is this because the site is using an MS version of JAVA
> which is incompatable with 1.1.7?
> 
> Or is it because my system is announcing that it is not a MS
> OS? Recently I saw a fix to dupe a site into thinking that I
> have a MS OS. I lost the instructions for the fix so could
> someone please send me the instructions?
> 
> 

I would suggest updating to JAVA 1.1.8, with the fixes. That seems to 
make recovery from a "bad" web site work MUCH better.

Also see :
http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html
for lots of good information (including how to make it lie about the 
op system).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: scalisi@tin.it                                    04-Nov-99 19:31:01
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 19:52:02
Subj: Re: WGET

From: scalisi@tin.it

This is a MIME encapsulated message.

--===_3821D10F_==
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I use Wget with the Rexx CMD that you must modify for your need: 1 - Start a
os/2 window session
2 - keyn (without quotes) "GETX ftp://xx.yy.zz\ aa.zip", or use
    copy/paste the URL after GETX.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Antonio(Nino) Scalisi           scalisi@tin.it
at 19:31(+0100, relative to GMT) on Thursday, 04 Nov 1999
Using MR/2 ICE v1.70  Reg: #20729.
Under ---> OS/2 WARP 4 rev.9.036 (fixpack 12)
Java ver.  1.1.8  build 19990910
ObjREXX 6.00   TCPIP 4.2 - MPTN 6.2007 (TCPIP 4.1 + W08620)
-----------------------------------------------------------
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Content-Type: text/plain; name="GETX.CMD"

/* GETX.cmd interface to WGET.exe              a.s. 1 Jun 1999         */
/* use      GETX FTPaddress/filename.ext          [outdir] [L] (log)   */
/* example: GETX ftp://volftp.tin.it/pub/00_win98.zip  D:\TMP\  L      */
/*  Ultima modifica fatta -->  MartedÉ 1 Giugno 1999, alle 19:53.      */

'@echo OFF'
'G:'
'cd\$$D'
'SET REXPARM1=%1'
'SET REXPARM2=%2'
'SET REXPARM3=%3'
CALL GetFrx REXPARM1 REXPARM2 REXPARM3
ADDRESS "CMD" "start /C /B /MIN"  result
EXIT

/*--------   Procedure --------------------------*/
GetFrx: PROCEDURE expose (exposeList)

PARSE arg parmVar1 parmVar2 parmVar3
ftpaddress = value(parmVar1,,"OS2ENVIRONMENT")
outdir = value(parmVar2,,"OS2ENVIRONMENT")
nlog = value(parmVar3,,"OS2ENVIRONMENT")
nlog = upper(nlog)

if substr(outdir, 2, 1) <> ':' & outdir <> '' then do
   nlog = 'L'
   outdir = ''
end /* do */
/* say ftpaddress outdir nlog */

/* Now, parse the selection string into directory and file. */
last = lastpos('/', ftpaddress)
selout = substr(ftpaddress,last+1)
dot = pos('.', selout)
filename = substr(selout,1,dot - 1)

if outdir = '' then
   outdir = 'G:\$down'                 /* DEFAULT download directory */

fcm  =   'G:\$$D\+'||filename||'.cmd'  /* DEFAULT work Directory */
flog = '-aG:\$$D\'||filename||'.log'

CALL SysDestroyObject(fcm)

call LINEOUT fcm,,1
call LINEOUT fcm, '/* This REXX CMD file was create by GETX.cmd */',;
call LINEOUT fcm, ' ',;
if nlog = 'L' then
   CALL LINEOUT fcm, '''G:\int\WGET.exe -cN 'flog' -P'outdir' 'ftpaddress'
''',;
else
   CALL LINEOUT fcm, '''mode CO80,102''',;
   CALL LINEOUT fcm, '''G:\int\WGET.exe -c -P'outdir' 'ftpaddress' ''',;
   CALL LINEOUT fcm, "CALL beep 524,500",;
if nlog = '' then
   CALL LINEOUT fcm, "pause ... FTP ended! ... ",;
   CALL LINEOUT fcm, '''mode CO80,24 ''',;
CALL LINEOUT fcm, "EXIT ",;
st=stream(fcm,'c','close')
RETURN (fcm)
/*  END */
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



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From: jules@goes.com                                    04-Nov-99 17:20:27
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 19:52:02
Subj: Uninstalling old Netscapes

From: jules@goes.com (Jules Greenstein)

        I now have three versions of Netscape (2.02, 4.04, and 4.61) on my
system (Warp4 Fixpak 11).  They all work OK, but I am happy with 4.61 and
would like to delete the 2.02 and 4.04 versions.

        What's the best way to go about it?  I don't want to lose my mail and
bookmark folders (currently in the 4.04 directory).

         Any tips or experiences will be appreciated...

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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              04-Nov-99 23:12:23
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: alan@min.net.notspam

In <3820FFA0.7954B152@linkline.com>, on 11/03/99 
   at 07:38 PM, "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com> said:

>Do you also have the x:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS driver loaded, either in
>CONFIG.SYS or in DOS Settings/Device?

Yes, it's in config.sys.


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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              04-Nov-99 23:58:24
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: alan@min.net.notspam

>Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)

Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I keep
seeing different recommendations.



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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          05-Nov-99 08:09:26
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: PMMail: what limitations for non-US user?

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On 4 Nov 1999 09:39:23 -0500, Kim A. Sommer wrote:

:>The export limitation deal with cryptography.  That lmitation may be
:>changing soon.  You do not lose any of the filtering capabilities with the
:>regular version.

But isn't the "regular" version able to use PGP 5.0? I used to use
it with the "original" PMMail/2 from SouthSoft.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          05-Nov-99 08:06:09
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: GRADD:  was Re: warp 3 & 4 install

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 06:28:20 -0500, Michael W. Cocke wrote:

:>Install for vanilla VGA, then install the drivers later.  Painless, 
:>really.  I've got the Matrox AGP card here - works nicely with the 
:>Matrox drivers - I didn't even install GRADD.

I've got a Matrox G400 here and I WANT to install GRADD so
I can use my Hauppauge TV card under OS/2. Both 0.79 and
0.80 hang before the desktop comes up with a flashing cursor
in the lefthand corner :-(

Tried the latest SDD drivers but couldn't understand the how to
set the refresh rates and centering controls. The terminology
was baffling, to say the least. Beta 8 worked without all that
hassle.

Guess I'll wait till IBM release their licenced drivers and see.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               04-Nov-99 19:39:24
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: Uninstalling old Netscapes

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On 4 Nov 1999 17:20:54 EDT, Jules Greenstein wrote:

>        I now have three versions of Netscape (2.02, 4.04, and 4.61) on my
>system (Warp4 Fixpak 11).  They all work OK, but I am happy with 4.61 and
>would like to delete the 2.02 and 4.04 versions.
>
>        What's the best way to go about it?  I don't want to lose my mail and
>bookmark folders (currently in the 4.04 directory).
>
>         Any tips or experiences will be appreciated...
>

Run EPFINSTS.EXE.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           05-Nov-99 01:27:22
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:22
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:58:49, alan@min.net.notspam wrote:

> 
> >Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)
> 
> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I keep
> seeing different recommendations.
> 
> 

The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS
and applies to OS/2 applications.

The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT
and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications.

Lorne Sunley

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From: jvarela@mind-spring.com                           05-Nov-99 02:11:20
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:22
Subj: Re: Advanced configurations for Netscape 4.6.1?

From: jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:52:49, babnospam@nospambigpond.com wrote:

> When I am accessing:
> 
> http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/
> 
> and browsing through the Artist Index,  NS4.6.1 crashes when I click 
> on any link after the letter K.
> 
> This is a huge site and I am wondering if I should have a much larger 
> disk and memory cache enabled to handle it.   I have experimented with
> various combinations up to 4MB memory cache and 7MB disk cache.
> 
> Can anybody help?

I had no problem with the site.  I'm looking at a picture of Sir 
Charles Mackerras as I type this.

My memory cache is 1 Meg and disk cache is 4 Megs.

--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring

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From: jvarela@mind-spring.com                           05-Nov-99 02:15:20
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:22
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:18:13, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> 
wrote:

> Plonk.

And plonk you.  Jerk.

--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring

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From: cmcd@interlog.com                                 04-Nov-99 21:40:22
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:22
Subj: Binary News Reader

From: Cam <cmcd@interlog.com>

I've been trying to get Binary News Reader ver 1.37 running (W4 no
fixpacks).

I'm getting a Sys2070 error.  The explanation seems to be that BNR is
not recognized as an OS2 program.  The session screen of the properties
is greyed out.

Any comments.  An alternate program that will help me sift through
binaries ng would be an option.  I don't care much for NewsHarvest,
because it seems to want to decode everything, rather than allowing me
to browse headers first :-(

Thanks

Cam

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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            04-Nov-99 21:02:09
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:22
Subj: Re: AWGET?

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

This worked!

Thanks!

In <19991103.9455374@LOCALHOST.umd.edu>, on 11/03/99 
   at 09:45 AM, Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu> said:

>Now add the following lines:


>/* ************************************ */
>  '@netstat -n | RXQUEUE' NewQueue

>  do while queued() > 0
>     parse pull . Interface . . . rest
>     if Interface == '10:' then do
>        Connect = 1
>     end
>  end
>/* *********************************** */

>If this does not work, I am fresh out of ideas.  YMMV.  



--
GK
            
FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 
There are 30 Processes with 125 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 9d 3h 52m 10s 468ms.


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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            04-Nov-99 21:03:08
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:22
Subj: Re: updated AWGET

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-M7F1i29ZY4Rd@localhost>, on 11/03/99 
   at 06:09 PM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>What does the AWget error log say???

All it said was that the download had failed.

Now it works (see my previous post).

--
GK
            
FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 
There are 30 Processes with 125 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 9d 3h 53m 10s 359ms.


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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            04-Nov-99 22:36:19
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <PXSs7Qc20D1F-pn2-tmIxERo7k2dO@user-2iveht1.dialup.mindspring.com>, 

jvarela@mind-spring.com says...
>On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:18:13, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> 
>wrote:
>
>> Plonk.
>
>And plonk you.  Jerk.
>
>--
>John Varela
>to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring
>

The pain! The pain!
Plonk.

-- 
---------------------------------------
David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 04-Nov-99 22:26:20
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: Binary News Reader

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Cam <cmcd@interlog.com> wrote:

>I've been trying to get Binary News Reader ver 1.37 running (W4 no
>fixpacks).
>
>I'm getting a Sys2070 error.  The explanation seems to be that BNR is
>not recognized as an OS2 program.  The session screen of the properties
>is greyed out.
>
>Any comments.  An alternate program that will help me sift through
>binaries ng would be an option.  I don't care much for NewsHarvest,
>because it seems to want to decode everything, rather than allowing me
>to browse headers first :-(

I'm a bit surprised you're happy with no fixpacks, so some
unasked advice: put at least FP6 on (fixed Warpcenter
problems and some other stuff) -- FP12 is running very, very
well here.

I don't have that problem with BNR -- it starts fine, and
with smaller-trafficked NGs it does okay.  But on bigger
ones (alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.beatles) it simply abends.  So
either it or NewsHarvest needs some work.

Just the other day I sent a note to Kingsley Turner (author
of NH) and he suggested that version 2 will allow something
like header browsing.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed,
'cause it sure is a powerful program.


>
>Thanks
>
>Cam

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              05-Nov-99 04:59:29
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: PMMail: what limitations for non-US user?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Arie Kazachin wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I was about to download and register PMMail at the BMT Micro site but
> there wwas a notice about export limitations of the "pro" version.
> I would like to know, what features will be lacking for the export?
> The e-mail filtering is really nice feature but it's done by the
> company which software isn't for export (if I understand correctly).
> What other limitations exist on PMMail sold outside US?
> 
    Call or send a message to BMT Micro asking them the difference. They
would know.
    I expect it's about the PGP hooks for encryption. The USA government
has a very anal view of encryption products.


-- 

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From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi...               05-Nov-99 05:03:06
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes

Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca

From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Wed, 3 Nov 1999 03:45:24, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> a 
crit:

> In article <o0XddOdRVCYE-pn2-UCefHGZ827w4@MGOYETTE>, 
> Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com says...
>
> >> 'Fraid not. I'm using Win2000 RC 1, and I am enjoying it. I was just
trying the 
> >> keep the topic focused.
> >
> >	Keep us inform about the licenses fees (one license for each user 
> >instead of each machine) and the mandatory registration.  On other 
> >thought, don't.  ;-)
> 
> Doesn't concern me. The NT 4 Workstation upgrade is $149. That's $20 more
than 
> I paid for the OS/2 Warp 4 upgrade and certainly provides more bang for the 
> buck out of box than OS/2 Warp 4 did, for me anyway. 

	Wierd...I find that OS/2 provides more bang than NT.  The only more 
"bang" NT provided me is with problems in heterogenous systems.  So, 
"No Thanks", "Nice Try" and "New Trashcan".
 
> TRY taking off the blinders long enough to READ the article. 

	Hmmm, you we're not talking about NT4 here but Win2000 (aka NT5 since
???).

Salut,

	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
	ICQ #13376913
	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: fgearhart@voyager.net                             05-Nov-99 05:26:18
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: fgearhart@voyager.net

On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:33:19, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 
(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:

> jldasch@3-cities.com (John L. Daschbach) wrote:
> 
> >schnip>
> >
> >	Perspective:
> >	OS/2 (with Object Desktop) still has one of the best user
> >interfaces going.  Much of this is because of the WPS and SOME.
> >Nothing I have used or read about approaches OS/2 in terms of desktop
> >power *and* configurability.  However this comes at a price, and that
> >price is stability.  I have had OS/2 up for weeks, but at times,
> >especially when using *real* applications, the WPS gets totally
> >wacked, windows don't repaint, objects partially freeze on the screen,
> >the system won't respond to keyboard or mouse.  This is typically when
> >using the combination of Navigator and a Lotus product (WordPro, 123,
> >Approach, Freelance).  The only solution is a hard reboot.  Other
> >times programs have problems and there is no way to kill them, at
> >least using the tools I have.  In other words, OS/2 when it works is
> >great, when it doesn't it's hell.
> >
> >more schnip>
> >	
> >	Thoughts?
> >
> >-John
> 
> 
> Uh huh.  1) Uninstall OD, which is probably 95% of what's
> kerflooey on your system.  Replace with freeware Xfolder.
> 2) Apply the latest fix for Netscape 4.04.  3) Reinstall
> your video drivers, especially if there's newer ones
> available for your card.  4) Clean up your INI files with
> Henk Kelder's wptools.
> 
> -Ray
> 
> -- 
> 
> Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

Really?  I've been running OD1.5 since it came out, and kinda 
suspected it caused some instability, but was never certain.  
Especially since I couldn't directly attribute any 'hangs' to OD.  
Does it really cause instability problems?  Is it better in OD2.0?

Fritz

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From: fgearhart@voyager.net                             05-Nov-99 05:28:16
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: NS backup..

From: fgearhart@voyager.net

I want to delete and reinstall NS 4.61, since the darn thing crashes 
every time I try to email.  (_Every_ time.  Grrrr..)  Anyway, anyone 
got any tips on backing up all my messages and restoring them easily? 
Could there be any glitches that could get passed on this way to a new
install?

tia,

Fritz

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 05-Nov-99 06:39:11
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: NS461 shuts down at some sites

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-ggXg9ej4qpEQ@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net
(Doug Bissett) writes:
>
>Also see :
>http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html
>for lots of good information (including how to make it lie about the 
>op system).

This is like peeing against the tide, i'm sure -- but when we do that
lie-to-the server trick, aren't we just falling into the MS-only future ?
personally, those sites infuriate me, as the Web and civilization are
based on standards, not some greedy jerk with toe-kissing sycophants.
If it's a commercial site I try to find the physical address and send 
them a polite realmail which explains that I was looking for product 
X, but since their site was non-functional with industry-standard
protocols I was unable to obtain the needed info and was forced
elsewhere. 'Surely this is an oversight on your webmaster's part.'
A photocopy of the receipt from a competitor is a nice touch . . . 

>
>Hope this helps...
>******************************
>From the PC of Doug Bissett
>doug.bissett at attglobal.net
>The " at " must be changed to "@"
>******************************


--
hrad ngravvd

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From: news@fenrir.demon.co.uk                           04-Nov-99 07:58:12
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: PMMail: what limitations for non-US user?

From: "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.demon.co.uk>

On 3 Nov 1999 16:27:51 GMT, Arie Kazachin wrote:

>Hello!
>
>I was about to download and register PMMail at the BMT Micro site but
>there wwas a notice about export limitations of the "pro" version.
>I would like to know, what features will be lacking for the export?
>The e-mail filtering is really nice feature but it's done by the
>company which software isn't for export (if I understand correctly).
>What other limitations exist on PMMail sold outside US?
>

There are no limitations in PMMail/2, though there are with the Pro
version for Windows because of the integrated PGP SDK.

PMMail/2 will find and use a correctly installed PGP copy, whether a US
or international version.


-- 
Brian Morrison                                       news@fenrir.demon.co.uk
               to reply, change address from 'news' to 'bdm'
 ...Grim faced, cold as fishwife's fingers, he snatched from the wall
 the sickle-sharp boar tusks he used for defacing Readers' Digest....


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From: nospam@nowhere.com                                05-Nov-99 07:50:26
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 05:13:04
Subj: WarpCenter (How to move an object between  Trays)

From: nospam@nowhere.com (Patrick)

I've done it before, but now I can't remember what I did.
I thought I had to click Mouse button 2 on the Warpcenter to bring it up
in details view, but now this option is not listed.

Sorry, if this is the wrong newsgroup for this post.

-- 
Patrick nospam@nowhere.com
11/05/99 00:50
[ Standard Disclaimer ]


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From: andy@schiller.big.ac.at                           05-Nov-99 09:32:02
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 05:13:04
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at>

> I'll take the opportunity to thank you and the IBM team for
> communicator 4.61. I'm not completely happy with it (drag and drop
> still works better with 2.02, which is also more stable), but it's a
> big leap forward from 4.04 and caching works *much* better than in
> 2.02!:-)

The only stability problem I've got (up to now) is that the messenger crashes
every
first time I start it

greetings
                Andreas

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    05-Nov-99 04:15:23
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: Re: no audio from cdplayer

From: nemo@union.edu

In <yQbYdTtdfC2H-pn2-sLd55HGCxXGJ@localhost>, on 11/04/99 
   at 03:36 PM, dtander@agt.net (David T. Anderson) said:

>> Just need a fast tip where to look for trouble-shooting. Couldn't find
>> anything on deja.com.

>I tried reinstalling my audio drivers, but no dice....so I uninstalled
>and reinstalled Multimedia entirely, and that worked out fine.   The 
>selective reinstall process didn't kill my custom soundschemes, or my 
>WarpTV drivers, so it was a fairly painless procedure.

>I haven't reinstalled FP12, or the Netscape Plugin Pak, which are the 
>only other MM-affecting additions I can think of having made over the 
>last little while that may have affected the CD player.  I'll be 
>watching to see if either one make a difference....

Reinstalling the soundcard drivers had worked for me. I was happy since I
dislike futzing with the very delicate mm system.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk                        05-Nov-99 11:17:09
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: "Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 23:58:49 GMT, alan@min.net.notspam wrote:

:>
:>>Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)
:>
:>Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I keep
:>seeing different recommendations.
:>
:

\tcpip\dos\etc worked for me..   <shrug>

,c.

-- 
Ellie v03 will watch over setihome.exe in real time and show you where your
WU came from.  She's discreet, multithreaded and available from:
http://www.Cee3.demon.co.uk/ellie/zips/ellie03.zip
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/science/ellie03.zip
Info, screenshots and other info from http://www.cee3.demon.co.uk/ellie



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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      05-Nov-99 03:09:19
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: LXLITE 

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

>And where is LXLITE? I do not see it on the EWS site, nor on such places as
>Hobbes.

ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/archiver/lxlt121.zip

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          05-Nov-99 18:51:17
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: Re: NS backup..

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On 05 Nov 1999 05:28:33 GMT, fgearhart@voyager.net wrote:

:>I want to delete and reinstall NS 4.61, since the darn thing crashes 
:>every time I try to email.  (_Every_ time.  Grrrr..)  Anyway, anyone 
:>got any tips on backing up all my messages and restoring them easily? 
:>Could there be any glitches that could get passed on this way to a new
:>install?
:>
:>tia,
:>
:>Fritz

When I de-installed 4.04 to install 4.61 it left my user subdirectories
intact. The first time I started 4.61 it asked me to create a new profile
I entered the same name as the one already there and it used it no
problems.

If you're worried just drag out a copy of your user directory.

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           05-Nov-99 06:46:13
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: David H. McCoy

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from
McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on
behalf of MicroSlop.

For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who
needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he
refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him
from his wasteful activities.


--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: jan.hartman@fil.lu.se                             05-Nov-99 13:03:12
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:18
Subj: Attach PMMail to Netscape?

From: "Jan Hartman" <jan.hartman@fil.lu.se>

Hi!

Is it possible to make Netscape start PMMail when I
click on a "mailto:" field? As it is now, I cannot acces
my addressbok in PMMail, and it is inconvenient.

/ Jan
===================================================
Jan Hartman
Filosofiska institutionen/Department of Philosophy
Lunds Universitet/Lund University                                       
Kungshuset, Lundagrd                                  +46-(0)46 2223253
S-222 22 Lund                                              fax +46-(0)46
2224424
Sweden
E-mail: Jan.Hartman@fil.lu.se


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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        05-Nov-99 13:18:01
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-MOkz9S42IsOK@tcpserver>, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne
Sunley) writes:
>On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:58:49, alan@min.net.notspam wrote:
>
>> 
>> >Once I re-entered and re-pointed it (SET ETC=E:\tcpip\dos\ETC)
>> 
>> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc?  I keep
>> seeing different recommendations.
>> 
>> 
>
>The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS
>and applies to OS/2 applications.
>
>The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT
>and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications.

Can someone explain the point of having %ETC% using different directories
under OS/2 and DOS? I'd much rather have a single hosts file which is used
from all environments.

>Lorne Sunley
>
--
John

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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         05-Nov-99 14:12:17
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

On 05 Nov 1999 05:26:37 GMT, fgearhart@voyager.net wrote:

:>Really?  I've been running OD1.5 since it came out, and kinda 
:>suspected it caused some instability, but was never certain.  
:>Especially since I couldn't directly attribute any 'hangs' to OD.  
:>Does it really cause instability problems?  Is it better in OD2.0?

Praise Stardock, it makes wonderful stable and fast products.
Blame the workplace shell for all the bugs. Use fixpack 12, generate new
*.ini files and you have a 96% stable operating system. 3% bugs are being
fixed in fixpack 13 and 0,9% in fixpack 14. So just wait for fixpack 15 and
you really have the best operating system for intel ever.

Ask IBM to make OS/2 linux compatible on source level and it will live for
ever and ever.

Arjen


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From: howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com                      05-Nov-99 10:20:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: Howard Wong <howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com>

mchasson@ibm.net wrote:
> 
> In <381E8B80.333B@eoni.com>, on 11/01/99 at 10:58 PM,
>    Michael Mahoney <mmahoney@eoni.com> said:
> 
> >David Rocks wrote:
> >>
> >>     I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
> >> that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?
> 
> >Something for you to consider:
> 
> >If any function of a multifunction device fails you will probably lose
> >ALL functions.
> 
> >Michael
> 
> Not true.  It is a Printer, a Scanner, and a Fax machine.  All three are
> independent functions.  My scanner failed, on a Canon c-3000 but every
> thingelse worked.  It contrinued to print and to get and print faxes.
> Just couldn't send any.   --

True, but you do have to fix the malfunctioning
sometime, and THAT is when you are going to loose
ALL function, unless you can just take the
malfunctioning part and send it in.  I don't own
one of these swiss-army-knife devices just out of
this concern.

Howard

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From: dtander@agt.net                                   05-Nov-99 15:52:08
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: David H. McCoy

From: dtander@agt.net (David T. Anderson)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:46:27, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> 
wrote:

> For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from
> McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on
> behalf of MicroSlop.
> 
> For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who
> needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he
> refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him
> from his wasteful activities.

I think we can all make up our own minds on this one, Bob...

The former Ominor does have a few worthwhile things to say, although I
remain mystified why he bothers to hang about OS/2 newsgroups when he 
has obviously decided beyond any shadow of doubt that WinNT is the way
of the future...

David T. Anderson
Calgary, Alberta

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                05-Nov-99 11:12:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl> said:

> 3% bugs are being
>fixed in fixpack 13 and 0,9% in fixpack 14. So just wait for fixpack 15 

You left out the bugs yet to be introduced in 13 and 14.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: falko.tesch@bigfoot.com                           05-Nov-99 16:05:01
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: Attach PMMail to Netscape?

From: Falko Tesch <falko.tesch@bigfoot.com>

Am 05.11.99, 13:03:25, schrieb "Jan Hartman" <jan.hartman@fil.lu.se> zum 
Thema Attach PMMail to Netscape?:


> Hi!

> Is it possible to make Netscape start PMMail when I
> click on a "mailto:" field? As it is now, I cannot acces
> my addressbok in PMMail, and it is inconvenient.

Hi Jan,

I had the same problem once and unfortunately there seems to be no 
solutions for it :o(

CU/2
Falko



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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     05-Nov-99 17:59:06
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: NS461 shuts down at some sites

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 06:39:22, hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

> This is like peeing against the tide, i'm sure -- but when we do that
> lie-to-the server trick, aren't we just falling into the MS-only future ?
> personally, those sites infuriate me, as the Web and civilization are
> based on standards, not some greedy jerk with toe-kissing sycophants.
> If it's a commercial site I try to find the physical address and send 
> them a polite realmail which explains that I was looking for product 
> X, but since their site was non-functional with industry-standard
> protocols I was unable to obtain the needed info and was forced
> elsewhere. 'Surely this is an oversight on your webmaster's part.'
> A photocopy of the receipt from a competitor is a nice touch . . . 
>  

I believe that the instructions on how to make the browser "lie" about
which system it is running on, also says to make sure that you inform 
the web master about his/her "error". I would be tempted to do it 
nicely (at least the FIRST time), since MOST web creators don't even 
know that there is anything but Windows out here. The tip also 
suggests only using the trick to get at something that you really do 
need, and to put the system back to "normal" after you get what you 
need.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: ariek@attglobal3.141592653589793...               05-Nov-99 20:18:06
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: VAC++ debugger storage monitor: how to search for specific data?

Message sender: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net

From: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net (Arie Kazachin)

Hello!

I'm attempting to run some program from the debugger found in
VAC++ 3.0. In the "storage" monitor window, there is no option
to search for a specific data, there is only address which I can
enter for the window to scroll to. I need to find some known data
(a string) and to set a breakpoint when it'll be changed. But I don't
know, how to find an address of a known data: I can't find such a
trivial option as "search for ..." that is found in many other debuggers.
It's almost unthinkable that such a trivial option doesn't exists in
VAC++ debugger. Maybe I'm missing something obvious?

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP ! ! !
******************************************************************************
*   Arie Kazachin, Israel, e-mail: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net *
******************************************************************************
NOTE: before replying, leave only letters in my domain-name. Sorry, SPAM trap.

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From: thomasa@swu.ac.th                                 05-Nov-99 20:00:22
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: im looking for a decent browser for OS/2 Warp 3...anyone have one?

From: thomasa@swu.ac.th

Will v4.61 work with Warp 3 (and not just Warp 4)?

In <c1.2c.2Sn8DC$1VQ@rhino_house.attglobal.net>, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid  
     (John Thompson) writes:
>In <eSJT3.1117$sR5.9250@newsfeed.slurp.net>, "user" <kf4lne@hotmail.com>
writes:
>
>>i need a full java supporting browser for OS/2 Warp 3 for use on my LAN. any
>>suggestions would be apreciated
>
>Have you tried Netscape?  You can download v4.61 from IBM's 
>"Software Choice" web site.  While you're there pick up Java 
>v1.1.8 also; works a treat with Netscape.
>
>-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)
>

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          05-Nov-99 20:28:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: David H. McCoy

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:52:16, dtander@agt.net (David T. Anderson) a Úcrit 
dans un message:

> On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:46:27, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> > For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from
> > McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on
> > behalf of MicroSlop.
> > 
> > For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who
> > needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he
> > refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him
> > from his wasteful activities.
> 
> I think we can all make up our own minds on this one, Bob...
> 
> The former Ominor does have a few worthwhile things to say, although I
> remain mystified why he bothers to hang about OS/2 newsgroups when he 
> has obviously decided beyond any shadow of doubt that WinNT is the way
> of the future...

I've got a different view of this problem, the one of managing my filters 
loosely enough that they can let articles of pure opinion slip through. If 
someone seems to just want a forum here to rant and bray and chainsaw 
others, a quick DejaCheck of recent stuff in OS/2-Land had better show a 
high degree of forthright, kind-hearted helpfulness. (And, it probably 
doesn't have to be technically brilliant help, actually, as long as the 
spirit of helping is there.)

If evidence is not presented, it's so easy to dump'em forever (even across 
multiple servers) with a couple of ProNews mouseclicks that life gets 
noticeably sweeter in about one 24-hour news cycle.

As long as others don't don't get pulled down in the muckandmire and think 
they're going to come up with the technical argument or maybe just the 
choice turn of phrase or repartee that's going to convert these turkeys. I 
haven't killed many posters for merely quoting the dread killbanes back 
here again and making me see them despite my filters, but it's nice to know
I always can.

[Now, see, if ProNews came back alive we could get one more filter field, 
to allow us to block any article containing one of the unspeakable strings 
anywhere in the body.]

--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               05-Nov-99 16:34:25
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 19:55:03
Subj: Re: David H. McCoy

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:52:16 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote:

>The former Ominor does have a few worthwhile things to say, although I
>remain mystified why he bothers to hang about OS/2 newsgroups when he 
>has obviously decided beyond any shadow of doubt that WinNT is the way
>of the future...

It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the
biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he used
to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               05-Nov-99 16:37:04
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 19:55:04
Subj: Re: David H. McCoy

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:28:55 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote:

>[Now, see, if ProNews came back alive we could get one more filter field, 
>to allow us to block any article containing one of the unspeakable strings 
>anywhere in the body.]

Now you just gave McCoy some bait to bash OS/2 for lack of application
support;-)

Robert Donnelly (Are we related?)


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From: larijani@arrow.utias.utoronto.ca                  05-Nov-99 21:54:05
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 19:55:04
Subj: Re: GRADD:  was Re: warp 3 & 4 install

From: larijani@arrow.utias.utoronto.ca (Rambod Larijani)

In article <jnlargxonggarwc.fkq72j0.pminews@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp>,
   "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 06:28:20 -0500, Michael W. Cocke wrote:
>
>I've got a Matrox G400 here and I WANT to install GRADD so
>I can use my Hauppauge TV card under OS/2. Both 0.79 and
>0.80 hang before the desktop comes up with a flashing cursor
>in the lefthand corner :-(

Sorry to butt in, but what are the advantages to using GRADD
over the regular driver for G400 from Hobbes?

Thanks

Rambod


>
>Tried the latest SDD drivers but couldn't understand the how to
>set the refresh rates and centering controls. The terminology
>was baffling, to say the least. Beta 8 worked without all that
>hassle.
>
>Guess I'll wait till IBM release their licenced drivers and see.
>
>Cheers
>
>Wayne
>
>******************************************************
>Wayne Bickell
>Tokyo, Japan
>wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
>******************************************************
>           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
>  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
>******************************************************
>
>
>

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           06-Nov-99 00:02:20
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: GRADD:  was Re: warp 3 & 4 install

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 21:54:10, larijani@arrow.utias.utoronto.ca (Rambod 
Larijani) wrote:

> In article <jnlargxonggarwc.fkq72j0.pminews@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp>,
>    "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
> >On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 06:28:20 -0500, Michael W. Cocke wrote:
> >
> >I've got a Matrox G400 here and I WANT to install GRADD so
> >I can use my Hauppauge TV card under OS/2. Both 0.79 and
> >0.80 hang before the desktop comes up with a flashing cursor
> >in the lefthand corner :-(
> 
> Sorry to butt in, but what are the advantages to using GRADD
> over the regular driver for G400 from Hobbes?
> 
> Thanks

The GRADD model drivers support "GRADD extension drivers" that
can implement special functionality that is not available in the
standard driver or video card hardware. The Hauppauge Wincast/TV
drivers have a GRADD extension driver VCAFILT that provides the 
TV card with the capability of placing the digitized TV picture into 
the
video cards RAM and instructing the video driver to use that portion
of RAM to draw the picture on the screen.

The placing of the TV picture in the video card RAM is done
by the TV card hardware and does not cost any (well very few)
CPU cycles. The quality of the TV picture drawing is much better
than that achieved using DIVE (DIrect Video Extensions) and
unlike DIVE does not use 40 to 50% of the CPU on a Pentium 400
processor.

The GRADD extension driver will work with any video card
supported by the main GRADD video driver as long as the
card has enough RAM for the TV picture.

The SDD/2 drivers are GRADD based and support a large
number of video cards. I've used the SDD/2 driver with two
cards (Matrox G400 and ATI 3D Rage IIC) and the Hauppauge
VCAFILT driver.

The technology would also be suited to providing low CPU overhead
display of MPEG video given that MPEG decoder hardware
is present that is capable of placing the decoder's digitized video
output directly in the video card RAM. The RealMagic Hollwood
MPEG DVD video decoders and the Creative Labs DXR2 and
DXR3 DVD video decoders can only achieve equivalent low
CPU usage under Win98 by using a hardware driven analog
video overlay, where the cards block out a portion of the
video cards analog output and overlay their own analog
output.

To actually answer your question, the Matrox 2.31 drivers are
not a GRADD model driver and will not support the VCAFILT
driver. Using DIVE to draw the TV picture on a Matrox G400
16 Mbyte video card on a dual Pentium II 400 Mhz processor
box uses up 50% of the CPU cycles for one on the processors
compared to < 1% using the SDD/2 GRADD driver and VCAFILT.

With a Matrox Millenium II 4 Mbyte card on a Pentium MMX 233
processor with the Matrox 2.22 drivers the CPU cycles used is
about 90% compred with < 1% using the GRADD 80 drivers
and VCAFILT.


Lorne Sunley

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From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com                           05-Nov-99 18:48:11
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: David H. McCoy

From: Robert Dohrenburg <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com>

/2 User wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:52:16 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote:
> 
> >The former Ominor does have a few worthwhile things to say, although I
> >remain mystified why he bothers to hang about OS/2 newsgroups when he
> >has obviously decided beyond any shadow of doubt that WinNT is the way
> >of the future...
> 
> It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the
> biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees.


schiz-o-phre-ni-a:
1. Any of a group of phychotic disorders usually characterized by
withdrawl from reality, illogical patterns of thinking, delusions and
halucinations and accompained in varying degrees by other emotional,
behavioral, or intellectual disturbances. Schizophrenia, often
associated with dopamine imbalances in the brain and defects of the
frontal lobe, may have an underlaying genetic cause.

2. A condition that results from the coexistence of disparate or
antagonistic qualities, identities, or activities: the schizophrenia of
the double espionage agent.

The American Heritahe Dictionary.

Robert,

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     06-Nov-99 01:15:00
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 21:23:14
Subj: Re: NS461 shuts down at some sites

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

You're too kind Doug. Here is the console message I got:

Exception occurred during event dispatching:
java.lang.IllegalAccessError
 at sun.awt.image.OffScreenImageSource.produce(OffScreenImageSource.java:70)
 at
sun.awt.image.OffScreenImageSource.addConsumer(OffScreenImageSource.java:41)
 at
sun.awt.image.OffScreenImageSource.startProduction(OffScreenImageSource.java:55
)

 at
sun.awt.image.ImageRepresentation.startProduction(ImageRepresentation.java:266)


 at sun.awt.image.ImageRepresentation.drawImage(ImageRepresentation.java:343)
 at sun.awt.os2.WGraphics.drawImage(WGraphics.java:280)
 at BtnPlayer.paint(BtnPlayer.java)
 at BtnPlayer.AP(BtnPlayer.java)
 at BtnPlayer.mouseMove(BtnPlayer.java)
 at BtnPlayer.mouseExit(BtnPlayer.java)
 at java.awt.Component.handleEvent(Component.java:2416)
 at java.awt.Component.postEvent(Component.java:1935)
 at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:1819)
 at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:941)
 at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:1739)
 at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Compiled Code)

Someone could or should let the webmaster know that his little applet is only
working for the most illiterate of customers but I wouldn't bother. There are
too many other people doing the right thing.

Doug Bissett wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 06:39:22, hamei@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> > This is like peeing against the tide, i'm sure -- but when we do that
> > lie-to-the server trick, aren't we just falling into the MS-only future ?
> > personally, those sites infuriate me, as the Web and civilization are
> > based on standards, not some greedy jerk with toe-kissing sycophants.
> > If it's a commercial site I try to find the physical address and send
> > them a polite realmail which explains that I was looking for product
> > X, but since their site was non-functional with industry-standard
> > protocols I was unable to obtain the needed info and was forced
> > elsewhere. 'Surely this is an oversight on your webmaster's part.'
> > A photocopy of the receipt from a competitor is a nice touch . . .
> >
>
> I believe that the instructions on how to make the browser "lie" about
> which system it is running on, also says to make sure that you inform
> the web master about his/her "error". I would be tempted to do it
> nicely (at least the FIRST time), since MOST web creators don't even
> know that there is anything but Windows out here. The tip also
> suggests only using the trick to get at something that you really do
> need, and to put the system back to "normal" after you get what you
> need.
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

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