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From: dink@dontspamme.com                               29-Oct-99 12:14:24
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: os2 cd!

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>

I got "OS/2 For Windows v2.10" CD and
a games CD with "Red Storm Rising" and
"F117-A Stealth Fighter" by creative labs
and microprose.  Both cds for the super deal
of only $10 (free shipping!)
these are just cds (the originals!), I dont
have any docs or anything else to go with
them.  I also have a ton of 1-meg simms
for real cheap, if you want anything just
e-mail me on http://dink.org/email

.. I'm just cleaning out my closet! =)

p.s. I don't even know if those 2 games will
work under OS/2 in a VDM because I've never tried
.. but they're for dos, so I dont see why not..
the "for Windows" thing on the os/2 cd just means
that it doesn't come with win-os2, if you want to
use win-os2, then you have to have win 3.1x allready
installed before installing it.  



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From: camilla@primenet.com                              02-Nov-99 00:48:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 21:31:00
Subj: Need new tape backup

From: Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)

I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great
tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so
often.  (Long history of failures here).

I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have
experience with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. 
Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the
newsgroup.

Thanks.



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"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
                   that your brain falls out"

                    Camilla Cracchiolo
                     Registered Nurse
                  Los Angeles, California 
                          USA

camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla


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From: rjfreem@attglobal.net                             02-Nov-99 10:18:13
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: rjfreem@attglobal.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 
   at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:

Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
supply fan. Heat kills.

RJF



>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             02-Nov-99 14:40:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

How many generations of backups are you going to make to a removable hard
disk?

I realize that the initial cost of a tape drive is higher, but the incremental
cost for additional backups and the ease of storing backups off site is a
tremendous plus.

Using DAT, a 4GB (uncompressed) backup costs less than $10.

And what happens if the hard disk controller goes belly up? The backup is
likely to be worthless too.

Alan


rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:

> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
>
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
>
> RJF
>
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
>
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
>
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
>
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
>
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
>
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From: howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com                      03-Nov-99 10:42:21
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: Howard Wong <howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com>

First off, I am assuming you are putting the hard
drive in a "drawer" that can be removed from a
chassis that remains with the CPU box.

To reap full benefit of backups, the media holding
the backed up data should be stored in a location
away from the building the computer is located. 
This requires transporting the storage media on a
regular basis, which is not what a typical hard
drive is designed for and you risk damaging the
HD. Moreover, such damage may not be noticeable
until you NEED the data for recovery.

Tape/MO/CD-R/JAZ/whatever with removable
disk/cartridge may be more expensive one way or
another, you get the intended protection that data
backup offers.

Regards,
Howard Wong

rjfreem@attglobal.net wrote:
> 
> In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99
>    at 12:48 AM, Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla
> Cracchiolo, R.N.) said:
> 
> Another backup alternitive, is to backup to a removable hard drive using
> xcopy and hpfs file systems in both prtitions. I have restored the OS on
> numerous occasions. The only failure occured went I changed video cards.
> Booting to VGA and reinstalling the video driver will solve this. A
> removable hard drive is only 250 for 13 gigs. Brad Barkley is concerned
> with hard drive reliablility. If the computer case and the hard drive is
> properly cooled, reliability is much less of an issue. I have five HD's in
> computer A, one of which is removable and has its own little fan; and
> three in computer B. I have three case fans in A, in addition to the power
> supply fan. Heat kills.
> 
> RJF
> 
> >I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.
> 
> >I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
> >support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
> >history of failures here).
> 
> >I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
> >with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
> >this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
> >                   that your brain falls out"
> 
> >                    Camilla Cracchiolo
> >                     Registered Nurse
> >                  Los Angeles, California
> >                          USA
> 
> >camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla
> 
> --
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> rjfreem@attglobal.net
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From: tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com                          03-Nov-99 18:46:19
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: ALERT: Nice Laser Printer for OS/2 Warp

From: Timothy Sipples <tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com>

CompGeeks.Com is currently advertising the Mita DP-580 laser printer as a
close-out special for $103 US after rebate.  This is an exceptional value in
an OS/2 Warp compatible budget laser printer.

For purchase information please visit:

http://www.compgeeks.com/cgi-bin/details.asp?cat=Printers&sku=205-1580

For specifications from Mita's web site visit:

http://www.mita.com/dp580spec.htm

(similar specs to the DP-570).

OS/2 Warp users: this printer is compatible with the HP PCL5e printer
datastream -- a datastream well supported by OS/2 Warp.  Although not
explicitly listed as a supported printer in the OS/2 Device Driver Pak
Online, this printer should work well with the HP LaserJet 4 driver, for
example.  If uncertain, please inquire as to any money back guarantees if
you purchase the printer.  Despite "1200 dpi class resolution" claims, this
printer is probably best operated in 300 or 600 dpi with its built-in 2 MB
of RAM (and should probably be regarded as a 600 dpi or even 300 dpi
printer).

I have no affiliation with Mita or CompGeeks.Com.

-- 
Timothy Sipples
IBM Network Computing Software
Chicago, Illinois
Web: http://www.satdirect.com/aviation

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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               03-Nov-99 18:22:26
  To: camilla@primenet.com                              03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

To: camilla@primenet.com
From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote:
> 
> I have to get a new tape drive.  
Check http://www.cristie.com/
I am looking to purchase one of their drives (admittedly a large
autoloader) and they may be willing to bundle their backup software for
os/2.  Well if you ask them nicely they will as they seem to bundle the
Win95 crap with them.

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Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604.
http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/    (runs on OS/2)
Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2
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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  03-Nov-99 16:04:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: Need new tape backup

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <7vlcc5$b1o$3@nnrp02.primenet.com>, on 11/02/99 at 12:48 AM,
   Camilla Cracchiolo <camilla@primenet.com> (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)
said:


>I have to get a new tape drive.  I've got a HP Traven T-3000.  

>I'd like to get away from HP products altogether.  They have great tech
>support, but I suspect that's because their products die so often.  (Long
>history of failures here).

>I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup.  Anyone here have experience
>with this drive?  Also, I'm currently using Backmaster.  Will it support
>this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2?

>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.



>Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the newsgroup.

>Thanks.

At the present time, maybe if there are any left you can buy an AIWA SCSI
tape drive which uses TRAVAN 4 cartridges.  Try computergeeks and
http://www.cc-solutions.com/  also called complete computer solutions.  I
got one of these a year ago and it is great.  I am running it off of a
cheap SCSI card with Nova bak.  These two vendors are also a terrific
source for SCSI and video and NIC cards as well as other stuff.

>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The trick is to keep an open mind, without it being so open
>                   that your brain falls out"

>                    Camilla Cracchiolo
>                     Registered Nurse
>                  Los Angeles, California 
>                          USA

>camilla@primenet.com         http://www.primenet.com/~camilla



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