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From: dtander@agts.net                                  30-Oct-99 01:27:12
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: Sounds and Scrollbars and Lockups, oh my!

From: dtander@agts.net (David T. Anderson)

I have been experiencing lockups [hard C-A-D style lockups] when 
playing system sounds and simultaneously moving scrollbar sliders 
around.  I originally thought this was purely a bug with PM123 playing
mp3 files, but today it hit me when I had an ICQ system event, so I am
now suspecting something more basic in the MM setup.

Any ideas what might be doing this?  I changed over to the 'new' 
timer01.sys and timer02.sys a while back...I'll change back and see if
that makes a difference, but any other suggestions would be welcome...




David T. Anderson
Calgary, Alberta
http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/

Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp

**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

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From: igyeow@forno.eg.net                               30-Oct-99 00:43:09
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:09:29
Subj: New Search Engine  5020

From: igyeow@forno.eg.net

Brand new search engine.
http://www.linkgrinder.com

Brand new search engine.
http://www.linkgrinder.com
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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 30-Oct-99 03:30:29
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: Aureal Vortex1 drivers and WSEB

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Sander van Leeuwen wrote:
>
> I've heard remming out the vdd (asp4vdd.sys) in the config.sys
> makes it work again.
> 
> So try that.

Thanks!
It seems to work just fine!

But it sucks the life, a bit, out of my processor, on Warp4 I
don't even notice the player is running (except for the sound it
generates)!

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           30-Oct-99 04:51:16
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: Aureal Vortex1 drivers and WSEB

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:30:58, Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk> 
wrote:

> Sander van Leeuwen wrote:
> >
> > I've heard remming out the vdd (asp4vdd.sys) in the config.sys
> > makes it work again.
> > 
> > So try that.
> 
> Thanks!
> It seems to work just fine!
> 
> But it sucks the life, a bit, out of my processor, on Warp4 I
> don't even notice the player is running (except for the sound it
> generates)!
> 

Are you running WSeB SMP or the UNI version. I was wondering
because I cannot get the driver to work on my dual P II box under
WSeB SMP. It works fine using Warp 4 FP12 on the identical
hardware.

I also found that if I load only the ASP4CORE.SYS driver it will
keep my network card (Ovislink RTL8139TX) from working. The
NIC and the Vortex 1 card are given the same IRQ by the P'n'P
PCI device resource assignment at boot time.

If I allow the ASP4OS2.SYS driver to load the system will 
get a Trap C when the WPS loads (right at the time the
MMOS/2 routines initialize the devices).

Lorne Sunley

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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 30-Oct-99 11:44:00
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 10:28:11
Subj: Re: Aureal Vortex1 drivers and WSEB

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Peter Jespersen wrote:
>
> But it sucks the life, a bit, out of my processor, on Warp4 I
> don't even notice the player is running (except for the sound it
> generates)!

"the player"=WarpAMP Beta4

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: op@opweb.de                                       30-Oct-99 12:24:27
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:17
Subj: Re: Riva TNT2 vs Matrox G400 on WSeB

From: op@opweb.de (Oliver Poggensee)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 02:59:31, Robert Basler <bogusmail@bogus.net> 
wrote:

> I'm looking at getting one of these two cards this week.  They are both
> roughly equivalent for Windows gaming, but I want to hear people's
> experience with their drivers on OS/2 WSeB (or just Warp 4) which is
> where I'm going to be spending 99% of my time.
> 

I have a TNT2 card running under Warp4. The Nvidia driver is very bad!
1. Refresh is only 60Hz no option to change it.
2. Performance is not as good as it could be. It is not too slow but 
it has only the same performance as an old Matrox Millenium.

The Scitech Display Doctor supports the TNT2 chip, but my card is not 
detected by SDD. The problem will be fixed in a newer version of SDD. 
For now a TNT2 card is not very usable under OS/2.

---------------------------
Oliver Poggensee
OS/2 Config.sys Documentation Project
http://www.opweb.de

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From: mr_ace@gmx.de                                     30-Oct-99 12:35:03
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 14:31:17
Subj: 99% CPU

From: mr_ace@gmx.de

Hi folks!
When playing a video with IBM Open MPEG in a big window, the video takes
nearly
100% of CPU power. I use the Scitech Beta Drivers for Matrox G400.

Can you use BUS Mastering or someting to reduce this, so that you can work
with
the WPS when playing a video?? 

Thanx in advance!

Cu!

Andi

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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 31-Oct-99 00:38:01
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Aureal Vortex1 drivers and WSEB

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:30:58, Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>
> wrote:
> 
> > Sander van Leeuwen wrote:
> > >
> > > I've heard remming out the vdd (asp4vdd.sys) in the config.sys
> > > makes it work again.
> > >
> > > So try that.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > It seems to work just fine!
> >
> > But it sucks the life, a bit, out of my processor, on Warp4 I
> > don't even notice the player is running (except for the sound it
> > generates)!
> >
> 
> Are you running WSeB SMP or the UNI version. I was wondering
> because I cannot get the driver to work on my dual P II box under
> WSeB SMP. It works fine using Warp 4 FP12 on the identical
> hardware.

Sadly it is UNI!

It works but it sucks the life out of my CPU!

I'm wondering if it is because it is a 16-bit driver???

> I also found that if I load only the ASP4CORE.SYS driver it will
> keep my network card (Ovislink RTL8139TX) from working. The
> NIC and the Vortex 1 card are given the same IRQ by the P'n'P
> PCI device resource assignment at boot time.
> 
> If I allow the ASP4OS2.SYS driver to load the system will
> get a Trap C when the WPS loads (right at the time the
> MMOS/2 routines initialize the devices).

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           30-Oct-99 23:24:09
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Aureal Vortex1 drivers and WSEB

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:38:02, Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk> 
wrote:

> Lorne Sunley wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:30:58, Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Sander van Leeuwen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard remming out the vdd (asp4vdd.sys) in the config.sys
> > > > makes it work again.
> > > >
> > > > So try that.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > It seems to work just fine!
> > >
> > > But it sucks the life, a bit, out of my processor, on Warp4 I
> > > don't even notice the player is running (except for the sound it
> > > generates)!
> > >
> > 
> > Are you running WSeB SMP or the UNI version. I was wondering
> > because I cannot get the driver to work on my dual P II box under
> > WSeB SMP. It works fine using Warp 4 FP12 on the identical
> > hardware.
> 
> Sadly it is UNI!
> 
> It works but it sucks the life out of my CPU!
> 
> I'm wondering if it is because it is a 16-bit driver???
> 

No, it won;t because it's 16 bit. Nearly all of the drivers
use the 16 bit segmented memory model. 

I'll have to try installing a UNI version of WSeB and
see if that will allow the driver to work.

Lorne Sunley

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From: PQueeg@ddscaine.org                               29-Oct-99 10:27:17
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: PCI Soundcards with DOS legacy support

From: Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org>

I purchased an AOpen AW320 since the specs designated DOS legacy
support. However after receiving the card I find out that legacy
support is available through a Sideband connector. My motherboard does
not have this feature. If I had bothered to download the manuals from
AOpen site I would have known this before hand. Oh well, you snooze
you lose.

ASUS just came out with a motherboard (P3W-E that has an optional
onboard CS4280. Cirrus' website lists this chipset as having DOS
legacy support but no mention as to whether or not it requires an SB
link connector.

The question is are there any OS/2 compatible PCI soundcards out there
that have DOS legacy support without requiring a SB link connector?


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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        31-Oct-99 01:10:24
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Configuring Audio on Network Computer

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

If anyone has managed to get any sound coming out of an IBM
Network Station, please let me know how you did this.

I can't get the Multimedia Install program to work at all...

--
John

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  01-Nov-99 04:06:16
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: 99% CPU

From: "zeppelin@gte.net" <zeppelin@gte.net>

Well,

The term "big" window  says quite a bit about your dilemma.

Not knowing your video resolution, but myself I use 800x600 (pels of
course)x16
million colors. Assuming a refresh rate of 75 Hz you are performing (correct
me if
I miscalculate) 576 trillion calculations per second, which if the screen
changes
dynamically from frame to frame, very little can come from a"buffer" but
instead
must come fresh from the CPU as a freshly calculated pel.

Try a video aperature less than 1/4 screen, or consider buying an SMP machine, 
or
dropping down to 256 colors. You won't like the image as much, but your CPU
will be
freed up substantially for other tasks.

OR you could play the video back at fewer frames per second (perhaps 12-15
fps)
which will make the video "jerky" but will allow more pels per screen to come
from
a "buffer"


mr_ace@gmx.de wrote:

> Hi folks!
> When playing a video with IBM Open MPEG in a big window, the video takes
nearly
> 100% of CPU power. I use the Scitech Beta Drivers for Matrox G400.
>
> Can you use BUS Mastering or someting to reduce this, so that you can work
with
> the WPS when playing a video??
>
> Thanx in advance!
>
> Cu!
>
> Andi

--
"Windows N.T."  ........OS/2 for the masses?


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           01-Nov-99 06:00:15
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: 99% CPU

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:06:33, "zeppelin@gte.net" <zeppelin@gte.net> 
wrote:

> Well,
> 
> The term "big" window  says quite a bit about your dilemma.
> 
> Not knowing your video resolution, but myself I use 800x600 (pels of
course)x16
> million colors. Assuming a refresh rate of 75 Hz you are performing (correct 
me if
> I miscalculate) 576 trillion calculations per second, which if the screen
changes
> dynamically from frame to frame, very little can come from a"buffer" but
instead
> must come fresh from the CPU as a freshly calculated pel.
> 
> Try a video aperature less than 1/4 screen, or consider buying an SMP
machine, or
> dropping down to 256 colors. You won't like the image as much, but your CPU
will be
> freed up substantially for other tasks.
> 
> OR you could play the video back at fewer frames per second (perhaps 12-15
fps)
> which will make the video "jerky" but will allow more pels per screen to
come from
> a "buffer"
> 
> 
> mr_ace@gmx.de wrote:
> 
> > Hi folks!
> > When playing a video with IBM Open MPEG in a big window, the video takes
nearly
> > 100% of CPU power. I use the Scitech Beta Drivers for Matrox G400.
> >
> > Can you use BUS Mastering or someting to reduce this, so that you can work 
with
> > the WPS when playing a video??
> >
> > Thanx in advance!

The only real way to reduce the CPU load is to use
a hardware MPEG decoder card. Unfortunately the
ones that there are OS/2 drivers for are no longer made,
as far as I know.

You could check the list of supported MPEG decoders
on the Device Driver Repository and see if you can obtain
one of those cards.

Lorne Sunley



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From: dljone9@ibm.net                                   01-Nov-99 05:37:24
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: CD write software

From: Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net>

If you using a SCSI CD Rom burner, download the free and
powerful CD Record /2 from:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Sector/5785/index.html

Although it may take a short time to set up, it gives you a 
choice of interfaces, it's free, and it's very reliable.

RSJ (all versions) trashes CD's like nobody's business. I
tried to use several versions of the demo, and it would
render 4 out of 5 blank CD's unusable. CD Record /2 has
*never* trashed a blank CD on me.

For what RSJ is charging for their product, it appears to
be a total ripoff to me. They figured they had a captive
audience with OS/2 users, as the Cirrus Unite CD Burner
product was fading...but thanks to the *nix community, we
have a wonderful (and free) alternative.

This is only my opinion - others appear to feel RSJ is a
worthwhile expenditure.

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From: mr_ace@gmx.de                                     01-Nov-99 14:38:02
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 14:27:19
Subj: Re: 99% CPU

From: mr_ace@gmx.de

Hi!

>The term "big" window  says quite a bit about your dilemma.
>Not knowing your video resolution, but myself I use 800x600 (pels of
course)x16
>million colors. Assuming a refresh rate of 75 Hz you are performing (correct
me if
>I miscalculate) 576 trillion calculations per second, which if the screen
changes
>dynamically from frame to frame, very little can come from a"buffer" but
instead
>must come fresh from the CPU as a freshly calculated pel.

Thanks for your answer!
I'm running at 1024x768x16, but it can't be my machine, which is too slow,
because
when I boot WIN95 and run the same video, the system speed seems not to be
much slower than without running the video... but usually, I don't want to
boot
windows. :-)

Seems to be a driver prob...

Cu!

Andi

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From: rocks@nmsu.edu                                    01-Nov-99 14:59:28
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 19:58:09
Subj: multifunction printers

From: David Rocks <rocks@nmsu.edu>

    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?

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From: driepon@nospam.POBoxes.com                        02-Nov-99 17:01:28
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 03:18:29
Subj: Re: CD write software

From: Dennis Riepon <driepon@nospam.POBoxes.com>


letoured@nospam.net wrote:
> 
> >Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net> said:
> 
> >RSJ (all versions) trashes CD's like nobody's business. I
> >tried to use several versions of the demo, and it would
> >render 4 out of 5 blank CD's unusable. CD Record /2 has
> >*never* trashed a blank CD on me.
> 
> This must be your equipment or system. I've used it for over a year
> without the problems you are reporting. I know others who echo the same
> problem free service.

I have to agree here, I have had no real problems using the product. 
The only loss I have had was when I purposely pushed the envelope of
what should and should not be done during a burn.

> 
> >For what RSJ is charging for their product, it appears to
> >be a total ripoff to me. They figured they had a captive
> >audience with OS/2 users, as the Cirrus Unite CD Burner
> >product was fading...but thanks to the *nix community, we
> >have a wonderful (and free) alternative.
> 
> Did you ever ask RSJ support for help or just give up?
> 

When I did have a query about the product, I found that the RSJ tech
support was very responsive.

> _____________
> Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: mmahoney@eoni.com                                 01-Nov-99 22:58:04
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 05:18:28
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: Michael Mahoney <mmahoney@eoni.com>

David Rocks wrote:
> 
>     I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
> that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?



Something for you to consider:

If any function of a multifunction device fails you will probably
lose ALL functions.

Michael

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From: esther@bitranch.com                               02-Nov-99 16:43:27
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:33:44, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
wrote:
| > Sorry, but I haven't found _any_ of the multifunction printers that 
| > are supported for OS/2. 
| 
| And a "multifunction" anything is like buying a "shampoo + conditioner all 
| in one" bottle. You get shortchanged in both sides, not just one. Hardware,
| and its drivers, are changing too fast for any "multifunction" device to 
| stay equally current and equally useful for very long. Buy a good cheap 
| scanner, preferably a used HP flatbed because they're fully supported 
| everywhere, and a good cheap colour printer like the Lexmark Optra Color 40
| which is being sold as low as $160, and very well supported by a good 
| company.

Well, I must disagree with you on this.

The bitranch has several printers and scanners, as well as a long HP 
OfficeJet 500. The HP OfficeJet, now about two years old, was provided
to me with my ZD-owned laptop... and I think it's a dandy device. The 
software that runs the it-does-everything management application is a 
CPU pig (especially when it gets upset if the OfficeJet isn't 
connected... which, naturally, it *isn't* when I'm on the road). But 
it's a decent printer, a decent fax, and an almost-decent scanner. I 
don't need much more than that, for my day-job. (I have an Art staff 
back in Garden City NY to make my stuff look pretty.)

It also takes up a lot less room than would separate scanners, 
printers, and fax machines. (With 15 computers here at the bitranch, 
desktop real estate is important.)

Mind you, I'm not criticizing the other equipment you mention. I have 
an HP 3c, an HP IIp (which I keep intending to sell, as it's in the 
garage though it works perfectly), and another inexpensive scanner we 
won (which is in a closet). We also have a new Lexmark inkjet (used 
primarily for labels for extended attributes), a Lexmark Optra S laser
printer with nearly every option, and 2 almost-working Epson inkjets 
(in the garage, make an offer folks).

But the multifunction printers *are* a good deal... if they fit your 
needs. I wish any of the vendors had produced OS/2 drivers for such a 
beast, as I'd have bought one in a flash. I'm sure that the hardware 
vendors *didn't*, though, because IBM spent years repeating the 
mantra, "OS/2 is for our corporate customers" and _they_ don't buy 
this kind of equipment.

--Esther

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  02-Nov-99 18:17:07
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Re: 99% CPU

From: "zeppelin@gte.net" <zeppelin@gte.net>

Not necessarilly,

There is a plethora of Winxx "software" decoders that will automatically "kick 
in"
whenever MPEG media players are in use. Many companies notably ATI and MGI 
among
others got their software decoders to perform so well ( in a windows sort of
way) that
(for MPEG I anyway) they cancelled plans forany"hardware" decoders. Such may
be part of
your standard Winxx video drivers.

Lorne correctly points out that a true MPEG hardware decoder (with it's
inheirant need
for drivers) is your best bet, but I know of none of these cards to provide
MPEG II
decoding along with OS/2 drivers. (again correct me if I missed one, I'd love
to buy
one myself)

1024x768 is way higher than most TV screens produce for resolutions. You are
processing
pixels that are "doubled up to meet your monitor resolution, eating away at
your
processors power. try setting up at 800x600x16 and then playing back the video 
at  the
standard screen size for "video-in's" monitor.

there are techniques available to export  this image size to full screen size
onto a
VCR, where due to the wonders of analog television, the image looks fine.

The reason hardware codec's and their drivers exist in the first place is that 
standard
Intel based PC's just are not configured to pump that much data and do much
else. The
codec card works as a selective second processor to unburden the CPU.

Without a codec card, you have no choice but to reduce the data stream through 
some
means that otherwise is acceptable to you.

Side note: I saw a demo of the Be OS recently where they ran 8 video streams
into eight
seperate windows without skipping a beat. BUT then the Be folks have gone an
extra mile
to optimize their platform for Media editing , Codec from the kernel I have
heard.

mr_ace@gmx.de wrote:

> Hi!
>
> >The term "big" window  says quite a bit about your dilemma.
> >Not knowing your video resolution, but myself I use 800x600 (pels of
course)x16
> >million colors. Assuming a refresh rate of 75 Hz you are performing
(correct me if
> >I miscalculate) 576 trillion calculations per second, which if the screen
changes
> >dynamically from frame to frame, very little can come from a"buffer" but
instead
> >must come fresh from the CPU as a freshly calculated pel.
>
> Thanks for your answer!
> I'm running at 1024x768x16, but it can't be my machine, which is too slow,
because
> when I boot WIN95 and run the same video, the system speed seems not to be
> much slower than without running the video... but usually, I don't want to
boot
> windows. :-)
>
> Seems to be a driver prob...
>
> Cu!
>
> Andi

--
"Windows N.T."  ........OS/2 for the masses?


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From: PQueeg@ddscaine.org                               02-Nov-99 08:19:23
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: FS: AOpen AW320 PCI soundcard

From: Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org>

Based on the recommendations here and the specs I bought this little
gem. However I need DOS legacy support and this card uses a SB
connector (southbridge, side-band, SoundBlaster I've seen it called
all of those) for DOS support.

Unfortunately my ASUS P3B-F does not have this connector. It looks
like an Aureal Vortex based board such as the Turtle Beach Montego is
the best bet for me.

So I'm selling the AW320 for $28.00 Priority USPS shipping included
(continental US only).

I'll even toss in a floppy with the OS/2 drivers.

Send e-mail to xoff_maps_on@x-networks.net if interested.

Remove no_spam_ spelled backwords from email address.

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 02-Nov-99 15:46:14
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: FS: AOpen AW320 PCI soundcard

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org> wrote:

>Based on the recommendations here and the specs I bought this little
>gem. However I need DOS legacy support and this card uses a SB
>connector (southbridge, side-band, SoundBlaster I've seen it called
>all of those) for DOS support.
>
>Unfortunately my ASUS P3B-F does not have this connector. It looks
>like an Aureal Vortex based board such as the Turtle Beach Montego is
>the best bet for me.
>
>So I'm selling the AW320 for $28.00 Priority USPS shipping included
>(continental US only).

I got me old ESS working so I'm not in the market.  But just
a warning: I ordered a PCI Montego a week or two ago when
I'd still given up on the ESS -- one of the reasons I ended
up returning it unopened was that it doesn't support DOS or
Win-OS/2 natively.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)

I was even willing to hang onto the card to install down the
road, but then I wrote Aureal asking about the possibility
of them writing new improved OS/2 drivers and received this
response:

"There are plans to support other operating systems besides
Windows 9x and Windows NT. Currently, we are working on WDM
drivers, but plans are already underway on working with
different companies on Linux and BeOS drivers. 4Front
Technologies are working on drivers for the Vortex 1 and 2
chipsets under Linux through their OpenSound package. We are
also working with other groups on supplying more open-source
Linux drivers, which we hopefully will more formally
announce soon. We have also been in contact with Be on
getting supporting for the Vortex chipsets, and hopefully
will follow through on that shortly.

"There are no definite plans or release dates scheduled for
these drivers, however, and there are no guarantees.

"There is no planned support for Windows 3.x, OS/2, or the
Macintosh OS at this time.

"Regards, Aureal Technical Support"

Fwiw.

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               02-Nov-99 16:42:05
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:28
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:59:56 -0700, David Rocks wrote:

>    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?
>

I have the HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C, I mainly got it for printing and making
xerox type copies. Every once in a blue moon I have to boot windoze to do
some scanning, so scanning is not really a big problem.

We will probably never see an OS2 driver for these all in one machines.
We can only hope Daniella buys one;-)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: centus@coqui.net                                  02-Nov-99 22:28:19
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: FS: AOpen AW320 PCI soundcard

From: centus@coqui.net

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:19:47, Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org> wrote:

> Based on the recommendations here and the specs I bought this little
> gem. However I need DOS legacy support and this card uses a SB
> connector (southbridge, side-band, SoundBlaster I've seen it called
> all of those) for DOS support.
> 
> Unfortunately my ASUS P3B-F does not have this connector. It looks
> like an Aureal Vortex based board such as the Turtle Beach Montego is
> the best bet for me.
> 
> So I'm selling the AW320 for $28.00 Priority USPS shipping included
> (continental US only).
> 
> I'll even toss in a floppy with the OS/2 drivers.
> 
> Send e-mail to xoff_maps_on@x-networks.net if interested.
> 
> Remove no_spam_ spelled backwords from email address.

Ok, I will go for it.  Let me know how much to include for shipping 
since I am in PR.
Priority Flat Rate could be sufficient....

The card is brand new?

Tahnks

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From: dljone9@ibm.net                                   02-Nov-99 21:14:23
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: CD write software

From: Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net>

Yup, I've also heard many folks rave about RSJ. Oddly enough,
Windows 95 does not trash CD's, and neither does CD Record /2.
So when two out of three packages appear to work fine with the
hardware in question, in my mind it *could* point to the third
software package as a potential culprit. 

And no, I did not ask RSJ for help. I use a fairly popular
CD burner (Sony CDU948S), and their FAQ area made no mention
of problems with this model. In all fairness, maybe they could
have shed some light on my problem. But I did try several diff.
builds of their product...and paying more than I paid for my
OS for CD burning software that never worked right didn't seem
reasonable to me, especially when a free product works great.
So if one considers trying 2nd or 3rd generation software (not
a beta) for a trial period(s) and not being satisfied with the 
performance "giving up", then I am undeniably guilty. It was
incumbent upon RSJ to "sell" me on the product, which did not
happen. Because I had other options, I chose to investigate
them instead...and I found a highly satisfactory product.

But, as you say, many folks are satisfied with the package -
and for what it costs, I certainly wish all who have purchased
it continued success.

 
letoured@nospam.net wrote:
> 
> >Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net> said:
> 
> >RSJ (all versions) trashes CD's like nobody's business. I
> >tried to use several versions of the demo, and it would
> >render 4 out of 5 blank CD's unusable. CD Record /2 has
> >*never* trashed a blank CD on me.
> 
> This must be your equipment or system. I've used it for over a year
> without the problems you are reporting. I know others who echo the same
> problem free service.
> 
> >For what RSJ is charging for their product, it appears to
> >be a total ripoff to me. They figured they had a captive
> >audience with OS/2 users, as the Cirrus Unite CD Burner
> >product was fading...but thanks to the *nix community, we
> >have a wonderful (and free) alternative.
> 
> Did you ever ask RSJ support for help or just give up?
> 
> _____________
> Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: PQueeg@ddscaine.org                               02-Nov-99 21:32:26
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: FS: AOpen AW320 PCI soundcard

From: Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org>

I downloaded the OS/2 drivers for the AU8820 chipset which the Montego
uses and supposedly it supports WinOS/2, at least it had installation
instructions for WinOS/2. TB's website cautions that there is no DOS
game sound support in OS/2 or NT but then most DOS games won't run in
NT and the joystick never seems to work properly in OS/2 anyway.

BTW they had drivers for the Vortex 1 (I'm assuming the AU8820 is the
Vortex 1) for Linux, BeOS on their website. How long ago did you
contact Aureal?
 
On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 15:46:28 -0500, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net
(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:

>Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org> wrote:
>
>>Based on the recommendations here and the specs I bought this little
>>gem. However I need DOS legacy support and this card uses a SB
>>connector (southbridge, side-band, SoundBlaster I've seen it called
>>all of those) for DOS support.
>>
>>Unfortunately my ASUS P3B-F does not have this connector. It looks
>>like an Aureal Vortex based board such as the Turtle Beach Montego is
>>the best bet for me.
>>
>>So I'm selling the AW320 for $28.00 Priority USPS shipping included
>>(continental US only).
>
>I got me old ESS working so I'm not in the market.  But just
>a warning: I ordered a PCI Montego a week or two ago when
>I'd still given up on the ESS -- one of the reasons I ended
>up returning it unopened was that it doesn't support DOS or
>Win-OS/2 natively.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
>
>I was even willing to hang onto the card to install down the
>road, but then I wrote Aureal asking about the possibility
>of them writing new improved OS/2 drivers and received this
>response:
>
>"There are plans to support other operating systems besides
>Windows 9x and Windows NT. Currently, we are working on WDM
>drivers, but plans are already underway on working with
>different companies on Linux and BeOS drivers. 4Front
>Technologies are working on drivers for the Vortex 1 and 2
>chipsets under Linux through their OpenSound package. We are
>also working with other groups on supplying more open-source
>Linux drivers, which we hopefully will more formally
>announce soon. We have also been in contact with Be on
>getting supporting for the Vortex chipsets, and hopefully
>will follow through on that shortly.
>
>"There are no definite plans or release dates scheduled for
>these drivers, however, and there are no guarantees.
>
>"There is no planned support for Windows 3.x, OS/2, or the
>Macintosh OS at this time.
>
>"Regards, Aureal Technical Support"
>
>Fwiw.

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 03-Nov-99 07:45:20
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <abfcnzriefcnzarg.fklayb3.pminews@news1.attglobal.net>, "/2 User"
<nospam_evr@spam.net> writes:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:59:56 -0700, David Rocks wrote:
>
>>    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>>that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?
>>
>
>I have the HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C, I mainly got it for printing and making
>xerox type copies. Every once in a blue moon I have to boot windoze to do
>some scanning, so scanning is not really a big problem.
>
>We will probably never see an OS2 driver for these all in one machines.
>We can only hope Daniella buys one;-)
>

maybe we should all chip in and buy her one anonymously ? 

--
h„rad ‘ngravv†d

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 03-Nov-99 09:25:28
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:11
Subj: Re: FS: AOpen AW320 PCI soundcard

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org> wrote:

>I downloaded the OS/2 drivers for the AU8820 chipset which the Montego
>uses and supposedly it supports WinOS/2, at least it had installation
>instructions for WinOS/2. TB's website cautions that there is no DOS
>game sound support in OS/2 or NT but then most DOS games won't run in
>NT and the joystick never seems to work properly in OS/2 anyway.

I sure don't want to slander Aureal.  I should say the main
reason I returned the Montego was because I got my ESS
working.  But I did seem to remember seeing here that Win-
OS/2 was a problem.

I'll admit that I tend to get lost amid all the chip
numbers, model numbers, OEM labels, and on top of that
there's the simple fact that a sound card is about at the
bottom of the priority list.  Was probably also influenced
by the uncertainty about ANY PCI sound card being gotten to
support Win-OS/2.  Again, not that it's such a big priority
but I still have hopes of getting RealAudio to work
reliably.

>
>BTW they had drivers for the Vortex 1 (I'm assuming the AU8820 is the
>Vortex 1) for Linux, BeOS on their website. How long ago did you
>contact Aureal?

Almost two weeks ago.

> 
>On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 15:46:28 -0500, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net
>(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:
>
>>Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Based on the recommendations here and the specs I bought this little
>>>gem. However I need DOS legacy support and this card uses a SB
>>>connector (southbridge, side-band, SoundBlaster I've seen it called
>>>all of those) for DOS support.
>>>
>>>Unfortunately my ASUS P3B-F does not have this connector. It looks
>>>like an Aureal Vortex based board such as the Turtle Beach Montego is
>>>the best bet for me.
>>>
>>>So I'm selling the AW320 for $28.00 Priority USPS shipping included
>>>(continental US only).
>>
>>I got me old ESS working so I'm not in the market.  But just
>>a warning: I ordered a PCI Montego a week or two ago when
>>I'd still given up on the ESS -- one of the reasons I ended
>>up returning it unopened was that it doesn't support DOS or
>>Win-OS/2 natively.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
>>
>>I was even willing to hang onto the card to install down the
>>road, but then I wrote Aureal asking about the possibility
>>of them writing new improved OS/2 drivers and received this
>>response:
>>
>>"There are plans to support other operating systems besides
>>Windows 9x and Windows NT. Currently, we are working on WDM
>>drivers, but plans are already underway on working with
>>different companies on Linux and BeOS drivers. 4Front
>>Technologies are working on drivers for the Vortex 1 and 2
>>chipsets under Linux through their OpenSound package. We are
>>also working with other groups on supplying more open-source
>>Linux drivers, which we hopefully will more formally
>>announce soon. We have also been in contact with Be on
>>getting supporting for the Vortex chipsets, and hopefully
>>will follow through on that shortly.
>>
>>"There are no definite plans or release dates scheduled for
>>these drivers, however, and there are no guarantees.
>>
>>"There is no planned support for Windows 3.x, OS/2, or the
>>Macintosh OS at this time.
>>
>>"Regards, Aureal Technical Support"
>>
>>Fwiw.
>

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: rascho@nospam.iname.com                           03-Nov-99 17:26:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 15:13:12
Subj: RTMIDI

From: "Rade Popovic" <rascho@nospam.iname.com>

Hi

I wanted to try out MIDI Sound Sequencer but it says it needs RTMIDI
and RTMIDI can only be installed on Warp4 (I am running Warp3). So I
downloaded midi.exe from IBM DD pack and in readme it says:

Files in this package:
-----------------
Readme.txt  - This File
Midi.sys     - The New Ring 0 DD for RTMIDI

Applicability
----------
Warp 4 or Warp 3 with RTMIDI Previously Installed

So I guess rtmidi can be installed on Warp3 after all. Does anybody
know how can I do this and where can I download rtmidi from?

TIA

Rascho
e-mail:rascho@iname.com
ICQ# 49354974

------------------------
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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               03-Nov-99 18:52:26
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 07:45:40 GMT, hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

>In <abfcnzriefcnzarg.fklayb3.pminews@news1.attglobal.net>, "/2 User"
<nospam_evr@spam.net> writes:
>>On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:59:56 -0700, David Rocks wrote:
>>
>>>    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>>>that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?
>>>
>>
>>I have the HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C, I mainly got it for printing and making
>>xerox type copies. Every once in a blue moon I have to boot windoze to do
>>some scanning, so scanning is not really a big problem.
>>
>>We will probably never see an OS2 driver for these all in one machines.
>>We can only hope Daniella buys one;-)
>>
>
>maybe we should all chip in and buy her one anonymously ? 

Not a bad Idea;-)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             03-Nov-99 23:24:05
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: How to get two Audio cards to share CDROM output?

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

I want to install a sound blaster live to use under W98 but I know it
want work in OS/2 ver 3 FP 40.

I want to Keep my PAS 16 for OS/2 and W31.

I think I can get that to work but for one problem.  I'd like to listen
to CD audio in all OS's. 

Can I splice the audio output cable from the cdrom to go to both sound
card or will that change the impedance?

I guess I could get a switch and install it externally to control which
card gets the CD output.  I want the Live because I'm adding a second
speaker system. It has two line outs for front and rear speakers.

Any ideas?


                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               03-Nov-99 16:26:08
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:26:11
Subj: Re: CD write software

From: letoured@nospam.net

Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net> said:

>Yup, I've also heard many folks rave about RSJ. Oddly enough, Windows 95
>does not trash CD's, and neither does CD Record /2. So when two out of
>three packages appear to work fine with the hardware in question, in my
>mind it *could* point to the third software package as a potential
>culprit. 

>And no, I did not ask RSJ for help. I use a fairly popular
>CD burner (Sony CDU948S), and their FAQ area made no mention of problems
>with this model. In all fairness, maybe they could have shed some light
>on my problem. But I did try several diff. builds of their product...and
>paying more than I paid for my OS for CD burning software that never
>worked right didn't seem reasonable to me, especially when a free product
>works great. So if one considers trying 2nd or 3rd generation software
>(not a beta) for a trial period(s) and not being satisfied with the 
>performance "giving up", then I am undeniably guilty. It was incumbent
>upon RSJ to "sell" me on the product, which did not happen. Because I had
>other options, I chose to investigate
>them instead...and I found a highly satisfactory product.

I can't tell what you mean by "trash CDs" but the error log usually gives
a hint. If you were trying a demo version, doesn't it have a 30mb limit on
what it writes, or is just  30 day timer? There is one note in the read me
about the Sony drive and "emulation mode" not being supported.  -- I don't
know what that means, but I'd ask support.

The value of RSJ on an OS2 system is that it uses an installable file
system, which allows you to use OS2 file commands like Xcopy, etc. without
waiting an hour to format a CD as you have to do with Adaptec Windoze
stuff. 

I also suspect that RSJ might be fussier about the quality of Cds, but I
don't have any objective reason to support that.  I do know that I have
burned Cds with RSJ and they were readable on Windows machines, while the
guys who brought the data to be burned couldn't make a usable CD with
windows. 



>But, as you say, many folks are satisfied with the package -
>and for what it costs, I certainly wish all who have purchased it
>continued success.

> 
>letoured@nospam.net wrote:
>> 
>> >Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net> said:
>> 
>> >RSJ (all versions) trashes CD's like nobody's business. I
>> >tried to use several versions of the demo, and it would
>> >render 4 out of 5 blank CD's unusable. CD Record /2 has
>> >*never* trashed a blank CD on me.
>> 
>> This must be your equipment or system. I've used it for over a year
>> without the problems you are reporting. I know others who echo the same
>> problem free service.
>> 
>> >For what RSJ is charging for their product, it appears to
>> >be a total ripoff to me. They figured they had a captive
>> >audience with OS/2 users, as the Cirrus Unite CD Burner
>> >product was fading...but thanks to the *nix community, we
>> >have a wonderful (and free) alternative.
>> 
>> Did you ever ask RSJ support for help or just give up?
>> 
>> _____________
>> Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>
_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: PQueeg@ddscaine.org                               03-Nov-99 09:40:15
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: FS: AOpen AW320 PCI soundcard

From: Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org>

Well, I plan on buying it from CompUSA which has a liberal 10 day
return policy on hardware even though they don't have the best prices
around. If I can't get it to work, I'll return it and stick with my
AWE64. I'd just like to have all PCI cards if possible.

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:25:57 -0500, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net
(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:

>I'll admit that I tend to get lost amid all the chip
>numbers, model numbers, OEM labels, and on top of that
>there's the simple fact that a sound card is about at the
>bottom of the priority list.  Was probably also influenced
>by the uncertainty about ANY PCI sound card being gotten to
>support Win-OS/2.  Again, not that it's such a big priority
>but I still have hopes of getting RealAudio to work
>reliably.
>

Me too!

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  03-Nov-99 18:40:05
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: RTMIDI

From: "zeppelin@gte.net" <zeppelin@gte.net>

Go to www.thetaband.com and speak to Juliene Pierre.

I suggest that you flip the $35.00 to him for his  MMpak which includes
the RTMIDI file you need, plus a tidy little utility called mmcheck
which reviews all those pesky  .ini files for multimedia and makes sure
your system is sweet.

I just did this myself, and am very pleased with whst my $35.00 got me.

If this is any indication of what 3rd party developement is all about,
the "golden age" of OS/2 may yet be ahead of us.

Rade Popovic wrote:

> Hi
>
> I wanted to try out MIDI Sound Sequencer but it says it needs RTMIDI
> and RTMIDI can only be installed on Warp4 (I am running Warp3). So I
> downloaded midi.exe from IBM DD pack and in readme it says:
>
> Files in this package:
> -----------------
> Readme.txt  - This File
> Midi.sys     - The New Ring 0 DD for RTMIDI
>
> Applicability
> ----------
> Warp 4 or Warp 3 with RTMIDI Previously Installed
>
> So I guess rtmidi can be installed on Warp3 after all. Does anybody
> know how can I do this and where can I download rtmidi from?
>
> TIA
>
> Rascho
> e-mail:rascho@iname.com
> ICQ# 49354974
>
> ------------------------
> Hal 9000: "Dave, put those Windows disks down....Dave...DAVE!"

--
"Windows N.T."  ........OS/2 for the masses?


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From: PQueeg@ddscaine.org                               03-Nov-99 09:54:18
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: FS: AOpen AW320 PCI soundcard

From: Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org>

Now I guess I *am* getting the cards mixed up. I just unzipped the
Aureal drivers again and reread the readme.txt and it says no WinOS/2
support. Not a big deal really but it would be nice to get as much of
the system working as possible.

Perhaps I'll just stay with my AWE64 despite the drawbacks of having
an ISA card.

On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:40:30 -0800, Capn Queeg <PQueeg@ddscaine.org>
wrote:

>Well, I plan on buying it from CompUSA which has a liberal 10 day
>return policy on hardware even though they don't have the best prices
>around. If I can't get it to work, I'll return it and stick with my
>AWE64. I'd just like to have all PCI cards if possible.
>
>On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:25:57 -0500, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net
>(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:
>
>>I'll admit that I tend to get lost amid all the chip
>>numbers, model numbers, OEM labels, and on top of that
>>there's the simple fact that a sound card is about at the
>>bottom of the priority list.  Was probably also influenced
>>by the uncertainty about ANY PCI sound card being gotten to
>>support Win-OS/2.  Again, not that it's such a big priority
>>but I still have hopes of getting RealAudio to work
>>reliably.
>>
>
>Me too!

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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  03-Nov-99 15:44:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <381E8B80.333B@eoni.com>, on 11/01/99 at 10:58 PM,
   Michael Mahoney <mmahoney@eoni.com> said:

>David Rocks wrote:
>> 
>>     I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>> that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?



>Something for you to consider:

>If any function of a multifunction device fails you will probably lose
>ALL functions.

>Michael

Not true.  It is a Printer, a Scanner, and a Fax machine.  All three are
independent functions.  My scanner failed, on a Canon c-3000 but every
thingelse worked.  It contrinued to print and to get and print faxes. 
Just couldn't send any.   -- 
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
mchasson@ibm.net
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51 

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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  03-Nov-99 15:47:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:22
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <381E0D5C.3D58784D@nmsu.edu>, on 11/01/99 at 02:59 PM,
   David Rocks <rocks@nmsu.edu> said:

>    I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
>that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?

You will probably never scan in OS2 with one of these machines, although
my present Canon c-3500 works as my primary printer as well as for sending
and receiving black and white faxes..  The printer will emulate a lot of
others and can use lots of Canon or the Omni driver.  The trick here is
that there is a  Dos Printer mode available from the machine panel and you
know what that means.  If you look at a Canon check in the store or on
their web page that Dos mode is available.  It works very well taking
little room, and doing what it is supposed to do.  I just didn/t bother
with the CDrom they sent.  Also since the functions are really independent
except for scanning and send fax, the thing will continue to work as well
as any other printer.  I bought it for under 200 at buy.com last week and
since we have standardized on Canon as sole source for printers in this
family, the savings on ink cartridges are fomidable

There are posters to this newsgroup and others who take the word of a
manufacturer to be gospel.  Well it aint so.  Incidently the latest Canon
win 3.1 drivers work very well in WinOs2 despite Canons statement that
they will not work.  

-- 
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
mchasson@ibm.net
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51 

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From: kimbobr1@aol.com                                  03-Nov-99 21:29:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: I NEED A NEW SOUNDCARD.HELP?

From: kimbobr1@aol.com (KIMBOBR1)

A FRIEND OF MINE BUILT MY COMPUTER FOR ME AND I AM HAVING TROUBLE. I GET GREAT
SOUND FROM MY SPEAKERS BUT I CANNOT GET MY MICROPHONE TO WORK. I CANNOT EVEN
GET VOLUME CONTROL TO COME UP ON MY COMPUTER. THE GUY WHO BUILT IT SAYS THAT I
NEED A NEW SOUNDCARD. THE ONE I HAVE IS REALLY OLD. IT IS A SOUNDBLASTER. I
HEARD THAT I COULD GET ONE FROM OFF THE INTERNET BY JUST DOWNLOADING IT BUT I
DONT KNOW HOW. ANOTHER FRIEND TRIED DOWNLOADING SOUNDBLASTER16PCI AND IT WENT
THROUGH THE DOWNLOADING PROCESS BUT NOTHING HAPPENED. I AM TOTALLY LOSING MY
MIND HERE AND IM READY TO THROW THIS WHOLE COMPUTER OUT OF THE WINDOW. I ALSO
HEARD THAT THE GUY THAT BUILT THIS DID NOT INSTALL THE ENTIRE WINDOWS 98 AND
THAT IS WHY I CANNOT FIND VOLUME CONTROL ANYWHERE. PLEASE , PLEASE , PLEASE
HELP ME. I AM OPEN TO ANY AND ALL SUGGESTIONS.ALL HELP MAY CONTACT ME
PERSONALLY WITH ANY HELP THEY CAN GIVE. MY EMAIL IS    kimbobr1@aol.com    I
AM
DESPERATLY AWAITING A RESPONSE. THANK YOU

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           03-Nov-99 21:54:00
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: I NEED A NEW SOUNDCARD.HELP?

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

First - Turn down the volume on your keyboard (turn OFF the caps lock 
key)

Second - From the contents of your message it would appear that 
you are using Windows 98 (TM) This is an OS/2 newsgroup. The
most likely help you will get here is to be told to format your hard 
drive and install IBM OS/2 Warp.

Try taking the machine back to your friend and get him to
show you how it works. If it doesn't you probably have
to re-install Windows 98 (TM) - likely for the first of many
times.

Even Windows 98 (TM) will support the old soundblaster cards
and comes with the drivers AFAIK, if not the Creative weeb site
has drivers for all their cards. You just have to download the
right ones for the card.

Lorne Sunley

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:29:51, kimbobr1@aol.com (KIMBOBR1) wrote:

<snip plaintive wail>

> DESPERATLY AWAITING A RESPONSE. THANK YOU


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    03-Nov-99 21:04:29
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

mchasson@ibm.net wrote:

: There are posters to this newsgroup and others who take the word of a
: manufacturer to be gospel.  Well it aint so.  Incidently the latest Canon
: win 3.1 drivers work very well in WinOs2 despite Canons statement that
: they will not work.  

	No kidding, I've been pretty cheesed at that in their README.TXT 
files for their printer drivers.  They've *always* worked, in fact, I can 
not think of *one* printer who has Windows 3.1 support that would not 
function in this manner at all under Win-OS/2.


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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      04-Nov-99 02:10:04
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: I NEED A NEW SOUNDCARD.HELP?

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-Dr4pKNMd1u9v@tcpserver>,
  lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) wrote:

<snip>

<rant>
What I don't get is how these people ever even manage to post to usenet
at all... And then, how in the hell do they mistake
comp.os.os2.multimedia for comp.os.ms-windows.* or alt.windows.*?!

Anyone else think Win95B was called OSR2 to purposefully confuse the
technically dis-inclined?
</rant>

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: hunters@my-deja.com                               04-Nov-99 03:52:16
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: How to get two Audio cards to share CDROM output?

From: hunters@my-deja.com

In article <eleS4DQ3N6dS-pn2-Snl5FTP3QNpC@localhost>,
  rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) wrote:

> I think I can get that to work but for one problem.  I'd like to
> listen to CD audio in all OS's.
>
> Can I splice the audio output cable from the cdrom to go to both
> sound card or will that change the impedance?

That should work, but a better solution (IMHO) is to run the internal
CD-Audio into your OS/2 soundcard, and then run a short 1/8" stereo
cable from the line-out of that card to the linein/microphone input on
the SBLive. Then set the volume levels under Win98 appropriatly. I have
done this with my AOpen AW320 and SB16 under Win95 and Warp4.

On a side note: Of the two OSes, I would have to say that Warp handles
multiple soundcards much more logically.

Good luck!

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           04-Nov-99 05:03:08
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: I NEED A NEW SOUNDCARD.HELP?

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:10:09, hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote:

> In article <qpkdVVNoMoTk-pn2-Dr4pKNMd1u9v@tcpserver>,
>   lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> <rant>
> What I don't get is how these people ever even manage to post to usenet
> at all... And then, how in the hell do they mistake
> comp.os.os2.multimedia for comp.os.ms-windows.* or alt.windows.*?!
> 
> Anyone else think Win95B was called OSR2 to purposefully confuse the
> technically dis-inclined?
> </rant>
> 

Probably because the "Simplfied" software provided wtih
some "operating environments" pops up a list of places to
post, and lets them pick "multimedia".

You would think, given that Microsoft can create web
sites and browsers that deny the existance of OS/2, would
put filters in their news reader software that would filter
out anything that mentions a possible alternative OS.

Lorne Sunley

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From: delete_me_iobbc@gcn.net.tw                        04-Nov-99 13:42:04
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:21
Subj: RealPlayer for OS/2

From: Information Office BBC <delete_me_iobbc@gcn.net.tw>

Is there RealPlayer for OS/2?
Where can I download it?

--

Allen Chen
E-mail: iobbc "AT" gcn.net.tw


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From: Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de                 04-Nov-99 13:17:05
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: RealPlayer for OS/2

From: Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Berke)

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 05:42:09, Information Office BBC 
<delete_me_iobbc@gcn.net.tw> wrote:

> Is there RealPlayer for OS/2?
> Where can I download it?
Go to the download area on Real Networks' homepage and select OS/2 in 
the corresponding field. You'll get a Win3.1 version of RealPlayer 
with special instructions on how to install it on OS/2.

Regards,
----------------------------------------------
Frank Berke, Bochum, Germany
http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/frank.berke
----------------------------------------------

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From: dljone9@ibm.net                                   04-Nov-99 06:36:23
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 14:41:01
Subj: Re: CD write software

From: Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net>

The most problematic symptom I found w/ RSJ was constant
buffer over-runs, which would lockup the software. It
would them refuse to close properly, and my CD Rom drive 
would lock (ejecting the CD was impossible without a
reboot).

Actually, I tried 5 or 6 diff. brands of blank CD's - none
of them appeared to give better or worse results.

I made every adjustment I could - changing the buffer size,
Joliet/32 charac. modes, using Danis vs. IBM1S506.ADD, etc. 

The limitation on the RSJ demo is 30 days of use - the
functionality is not crippled in any way. The "emulation"
feature is purely "test before burn" mode - and you are
correct - this is not possible w/ Sony drives under RSJ.



letoured@nospam.net wrote:
> 
> Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net> said:
> 
> >Yup, I've also heard many folks rave about RSJ. Oddly enough, Windows 95
> >does not trash CD's, and neither does CD Record /2. So when two out of
> >three packages appear to work fine with the hardware in question, in my
> >mind it *could* point to the third software package as a potential
> >culprit.
> 
> >And no, I did not ask RSJ for help. I use a fairly popular
> >CD burner (Sony CDU948S), and their FAQ area made no mention of problems
> >with this model. In all fairness, maybe they could have shed some light
> >on my problem. But I did try several diff. builds of their product...and
> >paying more than I paid for my OS for CD burning software that never
> >worked right didn't seem reasonable to me, especially when a free product
> >works great. So if one considers trying 2nd or 3rd generation software
> >(not a beta) for a trial period(s) and not being satisfied with the
> >performance "giving up", then I am undeniably guilty. It was incumbent
> >upon RSJ to "sell" me on the product, which did not happen. Because I had
> >other options, I chose to investigate
> >them instead...and I found a highly satisfactory product.
> 
> I can't tell what you mean by "trash CDs" but the error log usually gives
> a hint. If you were trying a demo version, doesn't it have a 30mb limit on
> what it writes, or is just  30 day timer? There is one note in the read me
> about the Sony drive and "emulation mode" not being supported.  -- I don't
> know what that means, but I'd ask support.
> 
> The value of RSJ on an OS2 system is that it uses an installable file
> system, which allows you to use OS2 file commands like Xcopy, etc. without
> waiting an hour to format a CD as you have to do with Adaptec Windoze
> stuff.
> 
> I also suspect that RSJ might be fussier about the quality of Cds, but I
> don't have any objective reason to support that.  I do know that I have
> burned Cds with RSJ and they were readable on Windows machines, while the
> guys who brought the data to be burned couldn't make a usable CD with
> windows.
> 
> >But, as you say, many folks are satisfied with the package -
> >and for what it costs, I certainly wish all who have purchased it
> >continued success.
> 
> >
> >letoured@nospam.net wrote:
> >>
> >> >Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net> said:
> >>
> >> >RSJ (all versions) trashes CD's like nobody's business. I
> >> >tried to use several versions of the demo, and it would
> >> >render 4 out of 5 blank CD's unusable. CD Record /2 has
> >> >*never* trashed a blank CD on me.
> >>
> >> This must be your equipment or system. I've used it for over a year
> >> without the problems you are reporting. I know others who echo the same
> >> problem free service.
> >>
> >> >For what RSJ is charging for their product, it appears to
> >> >be a total ripoff to me. They figured they had a captive
> >> >audience with OS/2 users, as the Cirrus Unite CD Burner
> >> >product was fading...but thanks to the *nix community, we
> >> >have a wonderful (and free) alternative.
> >>
> >> Did you ever ask RSJ support for help or just give up?
> >>
> >> _____________
> >> Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>
> _____________
> Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: t_am@gmx.de                                       03-Nov-99 19:22:29
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:21
Subj: CS mixer

From: t_am@gmx.de (Timo Maier)

Hi!

Yesterday I saw in the hobbes incoming directory a mixer for Crystal Semi
codes. The filename is lbcsmix100.zip, could anybody try if this mixer works
with the AOpen AW320 (cs4614)?

TAM
-- 
OS/2 Warp4, Ducati 750SS '92
http://www.privat.toplink.de/homepages/thunder
Remove "_" for eMail reply

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From: brbenne@no-spam.com                               04-Nov-99 11:01:15
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:21
Subj: Re: RealPlayer for OS/2

From: "b" <brbenne@no-spam.com>

HI, the answer is none.  But the win3.1 version works.
On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 13:42:09 +0800, Information Office BBC wrote:

>Is there RealPlayer for OS/2?
>Where can I download it?
>
>--
>
>Allen Chen
>E-mail: iobbc "AT" gcn.net.tw
>
>

Bruce   mail to  brbenne@ibm.net   http://what-me.com


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From: fwkirk@ibm.net                                    04-Nov-99 23:28:17
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: I NEED A NEW SOUNDCARD.HELP?

From: fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk)

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:29:51, kimbobr1@aol.com (KIMBOBR1) wrote:

THE ONE I HAVE IS REALLY OLD. IT IS A SOUNDBLASTER. I HEARD THAT I 
COULD GET ONE FROM OFF THE INTERNET BY JUST DOWNLOADING IT BUT I DONT 
KNOW HOW.

	There's no way in hell you're going to download a sound card from 
internet.  

FWK

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From: lamikr@cc.jyu.fi                                  05-Nov-99 01:20:13
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 21:24:16
Subj: Re: FS: AOpen AW320 PCI soundcard

From: lamikr <lamikr@cc.jyu.fi>

> BTW they had drivers for the Vortex 1 (I'm assuming the AU8820 is the
> Vortex 1) for Linux, BeOS on their website. How long ago did you
> contact Aureal?

Yes, and their driver is working really well for me. Good cheap sound card
indeed...


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From: swansona@fastwave.net                             05-Nov-99 07:55:18
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 05:13:04
Subj: MV PAS install?

From: swansona@fastwave.net

	I have tried to remove manually software supporting an MWave card 
which I removed and installed my MV PAS Pro Audio Studio 16 into a 
Warp 4 system.   I dual boot to Win95 and OS/2.  I've much the same 
problem on either system: Plays audio CD's fine.  In the PLAY command 
plays *.WAV files OK in Win95 but in 
OS/2 TESTIRQ.WAV sound like a "chipmunk" (however they sound), i.e., 
high and fast.  No system sounds at all.  
	The key lines I have in my CONFIG.SYS are:
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\MVPRODD.SYS /S:1,220,1,5 /T:1 /I:7 /D:5 /N:PAS161$
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS PAS161$
	Much later:
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS
	Have I missed something?  Ideas?  Help!

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From: 58emc1@concentric.net                             05-Nov-99 03:00:11
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 05:13:04
Subj: Re: CD write software

From: Peter Hinckley <58emc1@concentric.net>

I have RSJ, and I had problems when I first got it.  Older CD drives,
especially TEAC, don't work.  If you are copying a sound track, it will try
for about 30 - 45 seconds and then fail, usually traching the CD.  I sloved
this by buying an ACER 50x CD.  I have a Yamaha 4416 (internal ide), and
since installing the ACER, I'v ehad no problems.

Daniel Jones wrote:

> Yup, I've also heard many folks rave about RSJ. Oddly enough,
> Windows 95 does not trash CD's, and neither does CD Record /2.
> So when two out of three packages appear to work fine with the
> hardware in question, in my mind it *could* point to the third
> software package as a potential culprit.
>
> And no, I did not ask RSJ for help. I use a fairly popular
> CD burner (Sony CDU948S), and their FAQ area made no mention
> of problems with this model. In all fairness, maybe they could
> have shed some light on my problem. But I did try several diff.
> builds of their product...and paying more than I paid for my
> OS for CD burning software that never worked right didn't seem
> reasonable to me, especially when a free product works great.
> So if one considers trying 2nd or 3rd generation software (not
> a beta) for a trial period(s) and not being satisfied with the
> performance "giving up", then I am undeniably guilty. It was
> incumbent upon RSJ to "sell" me on the product, which did not
> happen. Because I had other options, I chose to investigate
> them instead...and I found a highly satisfactory product.
>
> But, as you say, many folks are satisfied with the package -
> and for what it costs, I certainly wish all who have purchased
> it continued success.
>
>
> letoured@nospam.net wrote:
> >
> > >Daniel Jones <dljone9@ibm.net> said:
> >
> > >RSJ (all versions) trashes CD's like nobody's business. I
> > >tried to use several versions of the demo, and it would
> > >render 4 out of 5 blank CD's unusable. CD Record /2 has
> > >*never* trashed a blank CD on me.
> >
> > This must be your equipment or system. I've used it for over a year
> > without the problems you are reporting. I know others who echo the same
> > problem free service.
> >
> > >For what RSJ is charging for their product, it appears to
> > >be a total ripoff to me. They figured they had a captive
> > >audience with OS/2 users, as the Cirrus Unite CD Burner
> > >product was fading...but thanks to the *nix community, we
> > >have a wonderful (and free) alternative.
> >
> > Did you ever ask RSJ support for help or just give up?
> >
> > _____________
> > Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com                      05-Nov-99 10:20:27
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 14:49:07
Subj: Re: multifunction printers

From: Howard Wong <howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com>

mchasson@ibm.net wrote:
> 
> In <381E8B80.333B@eoni.com>, on 11/01/99 at 10:58 PM,
>    Michael Mahoney <mmahoney@eoni.com> said:
> 
> >David Rocks wrote:
> >>
> >>     I'm looking at combo color printer/scanner products. Is there one
> >> that works best with OS/2? What is the best scanning software for OS/2?
> 
> >Something for you to consider:
> 
> >If any function of a multifunction device fails you will probably lose
> >ALL functions.
> 
> >Michael
> 
> Not true.  It is a Printer, a Scanner, and a Fax machine.  All three are
> independent functions.  My scanner failed, on a Canon c-3000 but every
> thingelse worked.  It contrinued to print and to get and print faxes.
> Just couldn't send any.   --

True, but you do have to fix the malfunctioning
sometime, and THAT is when you are going to loose
ALL function, unless you can just take the
malfunctioning part and send it in.  I don't own
one of these swiss-army-knife devices just out of
this concern.

Howard

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  05-Nov-99 18:34:16
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 16:48:26
Subj: Re: RTMIDI

From: "zeppelin@gte.net" <zeppelin@gte.net>

Ooopps!

Don't know what I was thinking!! RTMIDI is not in the MMPAK, I was thinking
about MPU401. Sorry for the confusion!!

The MMpak is still a good buy, especially for those lamenting over a
stubborn Sound Blaster ISA card and MIDI dysfunction

"zeppelin@gte.net" wrote:

> Go to www.thetaband.com and speak to Juliene Pierre.
>
> I suggest that you flip the $35.00 to him for his  MMpak which includes
> the RTMIDI file you need, plus a tidy little utility called mmcheck
> which reviews all those pesky  .ini files for multimedia and makes sure
> your system is sweet.
>
> I just did this myself, and am very pleased with whst my $35.00 got me.
>
> If this is any indication of what 3rd party developement is all about,
> the "golden age" of OS/2 may yet be ahead of us.
>
> Rade Popovic wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I wanted to try out MIDI Sound Sequencer but it says it needs RTMIDI
> > and RTMIDI can only be installed on Warp4 (I am running Warp3). So I
> > downloaded midi.exe from IBM DD pack and in readme it says:
> >
> > Files in this package:
> > -----------------
> > Readme.txt  - This File
> > Midi.sys     - The New Ring 0 DD for RTMIDI
> >
> > Applicability
> > ----------
> > Warp 4 or Warp 3 with RTMIDI Previously Installed
> >
> > So I guess rtmidi can be installed on Warp3 after all. Does anybody
> > know how can I do this and where can I download rtmidi from?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Rascho
> > e-mail:rascho@iname.com
> > ICQ# 49354974
> >
> > ------------------------
> > Hal 9000: "Dave, put those Windows disks down....Dave...DAVE!"
>
> --
> "Windows N.T."  ........OS/2 for the masses?

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