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From: mhlx@my-deja.com                                  30-Oct-99 03:48:19
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: 3dfx Velocity 100/200 has OS/2 drivers

From: mhlx@my-deja.com

I was reading Anandtech and they were reviewing the 3dfx Velocity 100.
It says it has OS/2 drivers.  I went to the 3dfx site and confirmed it.

http://www.3dfx.com/view.asp?IOID=285
http://www.3dfx.com/view.asp?IOID=284
http://www.3dfx.com/view.asp?IOID=283

The review
(http://www.anandtech.com/html/articledisplay.cfm?document=1076&pagenum=
1) says the Velocity 100 can have its 2nd TMU enabled under Win98 for
games and it is the same speed as the Voodoo3 2000.

I do not have this or any other 3dfx card, so I don't know how good the
OS/2 drivers are, etc., but there may be OS/2 users interested in a
Voodoo3 2000 card, and the Velocity 100 is a close match.

bye,
mhlx@my-deja.com


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: jscott@csolve.net                                 30-Oct-99 04:45:03
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 04:10:00
Subj: Re: Fixed frequency monitors

From: JohnS <jscott@csolve.net>

I'm using a Sun (Hitachi 4119) here with a Mystique and 2 meg memory.
At 1024x768 max color depth is 64000.
If you can get the monitor for under $100 it is well worth while.
No, you cannot run DOS games full screen and since Matrox has not chosen
to include a VSVGA driver, you will be limited in your DOS windowed
support
to VGA only.
Yes, the winos2 support is good as long as it doesn't try full screen.

You will have to set up a custom monitor in the Matrox monitor file to
support
your monitor's refresh rates.

Other than problems with tiny fonts, I'm very happy with the results.

Cheers

J

Lee Riemenschneider wrote:
> 
> I have a chance to get a 20" fixed frequency monitor for pretty cheap, and
> would like to know if it is worth getting.  I have a Matrox Mystique 220. 
If
> I get the monitor working, will I be able to see my start-up screens?  Will
I
> be able to play any DOS/Win3.1/OS/2 games?
> 
> TIA
> --
> ===========================================================================
> Lee W. Riemenschneider                 lee.w.riemenschneider@delphiauto.com
> Software Engineer         OS/2 user    PURDUE alumnus and die-hard FAN!
> ===========================================================================

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From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net                            30-Oct-99 19:22:19
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 16:38:14
Subj: Blinking Display

From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net

I have a new 17" display, and whenever the system changes state, like
opening a new program, or switching windows, etc, it blinks slowly.
It's faster than a movie fade in and fade out, but has a similar effect.

Is there a way to tell the system not to do this?

I have Warp 4 + FP 10, and run the normal 640x480x256 colors.

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Fred Springfield                       for e-mail remove 'xxx'
Plymouth, MN
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From: cleber@ibm.net                                    30-Oct-99 23:08:17
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: Please help, need ATI driver

From: "Clemens Pipek" <cleber@ibm.net>

Hi all,

i just got a Compaq Armada 1750 which has build in a <ATI Rage LT Pro 
Agp>. Since nearly all computers comes with the OTHER OS, we must 
look always to the manufacture site for OS/2 driver. At the ATI site is a 
remark that this driver is on the ATI CD, please can somebody e-mail me 
this driver. I have tried the <ATI Rage Pro Agp> driver, but this works not 
well with the Armada (probs with Dos-Box and full screen mode).
Please contact me before, i need only one not 10.

Thanks,
Clemens




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From: shakey@aloha.net                                  30-Oct-99 11:47:06
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 19:47:00
Subj: SONY and OS/2 Install

From: Shakey <shakey@aloha.net>

I'm helping a friend install OS/2 on his Sony Digital Studio and install
balks loading the three disks and restarting the workstation with error
"Scan Out of Range" at which time the screen blinks with distorted views
of the various setup screens. The CD stops loading.

I've tried F6 Disable Hardware Detection ... same results.

I sure would appreciate help on this ... and thanking you in advance,

(A copy to e-mail would be appreciated).

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    30-Oct-99 22:29:23
  To: All                                               30-Oct-99 21:22:10
Subj: Re: Odd ATI RageII+ problem

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

	Graham, someone just uploaded some updated ATI Rage series 
drivers at Hobbes.  Perhaps they are worth a look (v5.35b6) I think.  
Currently in the /pub/incoming directory.

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From: fisa@jet.uk                                       29-Oct-99 15:21:20
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: !SDD!: VOODOO 3 2000 problems with beta 9

From: filippo sartori <fisa@jet.uk>

HI
I got myself a voodoo 3 2000 board
I had an s3 trio card before.
So I installed successfully SDD on the system with the trio running
set the system at 1024x768 16K colours (maybe 256?) and that was
ok .
I then swapped cards and the system booted up ok on the same
video resolution.
After that I changed to 1600x(is it 1200?) 32 bit colour and rebooted.
At boot up I got trap at $SINGLEQ and system frozen in text mode.
It happened at the time when the system normally cahnges to
graphics mode.

I then switched to VGA: ok.
Installed SDD again: ok.
rebooted and again trap on SINGLEQ?
It looks like that whatever setting was making the first setup
fail is still in place.
How can I reset everything so that I can get it to work?
Any idea to what to do next?

Regards
Filippo Sartori

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From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com                          30-Oct-99 17:51:23
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com (Kendall Bennett)

In article <38152BD2.58B1DA5B@linkline.com>, 
spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com says...

> There's a hidden file placed in the root directory of your boot drive
> which is called IO32.SYS if my memory serves me correctly. I think this
> contains the install date.

I appreciate the fact that people *want* to circumvent our licensing 
mechanisms. The more people who circumvent the licensing, the less 
revenue we get and the less of a product you guys get.

So go right ahead, pirate SDD/2 but don't *EVER* complain to my company 
that something in SDD/2 does not work they way you want it to.

Regards,

-- 

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From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com                          30-Oct-99 17:52:13
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 05:35:15
Subj: Re: SDD beta 9: fixed neomagic LCD support???

From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com (Kendall Bennett)

In article <uli12bt9loxhn.fsf@erdw.ethz.ch>, uliw@erdw.ethz.ch says...

> SDD beta 8 included support for the neomagic chipset. It worked
> however, only for external monitors. Has this been fixed in beta 9
> or is thi still an open issue ?

It is still not fixed yet.

Regards,

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From: moschleg@erols.com                                30-Oct-99 22:19:27
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: How to setup Warp4 to use DPMS

From: Mark Schlegel <moschleg@erols.com>

I just upgraded my monitor to a new Mag V800
19", I also refreshed the video driver to
2.31 for the Matrox Millenium 4Meg card I have.
I have a Pentium Pro XP6NP5 and flashed it to
the newest bios on the asus web page (for the
year 2k compliance).  So I figure the system
should be fine to support DPMS with the monitor
when I'm not actively using it.

I know the monitor supports DPMS, and I did turn
it on in the motherboard bios, is there more
I need to do?  I've left the monitor alone and
it doesn't go into sleep mode.   Does the
os/2 lockup screensaver interfere with
DPSM? (I still have the lockup setup to run)
Do I possibly need to install the 
power support in Warp?  It's also possible I
don't have the right power management setting
in the asus bios but that's due to there being
so many settings (and asus doesn't seem to have
a revised manual for the bios, the pdf file I
downloaded for the XP6NP5 board seems to
have instructions for the older bios).

thanks,
Mark

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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               30-Oct-99 22:39:10
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 06:30:21
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:51:46 -0500, Kendall Bennett wrote:

>In article <38152BD2.58B1DA5B@linkline.com>, 
>spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com says...
>
>> There's a hidden file placed in the root directory of your boot drive
>> which is called IO32.SYS if my memory serves me correctly. I think this
>> contains the install date.
>
>I appreciate the fact that people *want* to circumvent our licensing 
>mechanisms. The more people who circumvent the licensing, the less 
>revenue we get and the less of a product you guys get.
>
>So go right ahead, pirate SDD/2 but don't *EVER* complain to my company 
>that something in SDD/2 does not work they way you want it to.

I doubt that every one wants to do this every 21 days with a beta driver. I
already registered before the GA release. I would think the Microsoft users
are you biggest problems when it comes to hackers and pirates. OS/2 users
appreciate what developers have to offer. Besides, clicking on Warp Center
puts this file in plain view.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
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From: whonea@codenet.net                                31-Oct-99 01:57:16
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 22:51:46, KendallB@scitechsoft.com (Kendall 
Bennett) wrote:

> In article <38152BD2.58B1DA5B@linkline.com>, 
> spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com says...
> 
> > There's a hidden file placed in the root directory of your boot drive
> > which is called IO32.SYS if my memory serves me correctly. I think this
> > contains the install date.
> 
> I appreciate the fact that people *want* to circumvent our licensing 
> mechanisms. The more people who circumvent the licensing, the less 
> revenue we get and the less of a product you guys get.
> 
> So go right ahead, pirate SDD/2 but don't *EVER* complain to my company 
> that something in SDD/2 does not work they way you want it to.

While I concur in your sentiments regarding pirates, it seems that 
this and similar threads started off with 'What the heck is this 
strange file' and 'where did it come from' rather than asking for 
crack info.  The same threads ran some time ago when people were 
asking about the file Ray Gwinn installed with the unregistered 
version of SIO.  As someone else commented, it's not worth the effort 
to crack a product with the turnover you guys have.  I sure as heck 
want to know what strange files are - such as the VBS virus - and 
would appreciate being informed. 

I would suggest a better keying method when you go GA, however...

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: pcgodda@freeuk.com                                31-Oct-99 08:02:15
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: AGP graphic card and OS/2 Warp version 3

From: "Paul Goddard" <pcgodda@freeuk.com>

I am considering buying an AGP graphic card for use with Windows 98. I
cannot find any drivers listed in OS-2 Device Driver Pack Online and wonder
if an AGP card will work with Warp 3 since Warp 3 is pre-AGP cards. For my
OS/2 applications I only need 16-colour VGA so the default driver with Warp
3 would be OK if it would work.

Can anyone help me please?

Thanking you in anticipation.

Paul


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From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj                31-Oct-99 22:23:05
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Scitech Display Doctor

From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj

Hello Kendall.

30 Oct 99 17:51, Kendall Bennett wrote to All:


 >> There's a hidden file placed in the root directory of your boot
 >> drive which is called IO32.SYS if my memory serves me correctly.
 I
 >> think this contains the install date.

 KB> I appreciate the fact that people *want* to circumvent our
 licensing
 KB> mechanisms. The more people who circumvent the licensing, the
 less
 KB> revenue we get and the less of a product you guys get.

 KB> So go right ahead, pirate SDD/2 but don't *EVER* complain to my
 KB> company that something in SDD/2 does not work they way you want
 it to.

Of course they shouldn't complain if it doesn't work, they didn't pay
 for it!

On another note, have you got any software/drivers that will get a
 matrox marvel (with the tv tuner and capture) working under OS/2.

Matrox has drivers for the video card portion of thier card but not
 for tv tuner portion.

Now that is something I would fork out a $100.00 CDN to get that
 working.


Derek
starfire@pcs.tj


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From: mgreene@exis.net                                  31-Oct-99 11:50:16
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: "Michael K Greene" <mgreene@exis.net>

On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:51:46 -0500, Kendall Bennett wrote:

>In article <38152BD2.58B1DA5B@linkline.com>, 
>spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com says...
>
>> There's a hidden file placed in the root directory of your boot drive
>> which is called IO32.SYS if my memory serves me correctly. I think this
>> contains the install date.
>
>I appreciate the fact that people *want* to circumvent our licensing 
>mechanisms. The more people who circumvent the licensing, the less 
>revenue we get and the less of a product you guys get.
>
>So go right ahead, pirate SDD/2 but don't *EVER* complain to my company 
>that something in SDD/2 does not work they way you want it to.

As a different question, if I buy SDD will the number I receive work in all
these releases? I just installed SDD (9) in my Warp 3 FP42 with Matrox G200 -
works great and I see the speed difference from the MAtrox drivers.
Outstanding product!!

>Regards,
>
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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      31-Oct-99 15:52:01
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: AGP graphic card and OS/2 Warp version 3

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <qISS3.3923$Ad3.141234@nnrp4.clara.net>, "Paul Goddard"
<pcgodda@freeuk.com> writes:

>I am considering buying an AGP graphic card for use with Windows 98. I
>cannot find any drivers listed in OS-2 Device Driver Pack Online and wonder
>if an AGP card will work with Warp 3 since Warp 3 is pre-AGP cards. For my
>OS/2 applications I only need 16-colour VGA so the default driver with Warp
>3 would be OK if it would work.

IIRC, AGP is seem as part of the PCI bus by the system and should 
work.


-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           31-Oct-99 16:41:28
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: AGP graphic card and OS/2 Warp version 3

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:02:30, "Paul Goddard" <pcgodda@freeuk.com> 
wrote:

> I am considering buying an AGP graphic card for use with Windows 98. I
> cannot find any drivers listed in OS-2 Device Driver Pack Online and wonder
> if an AGP card will work with Warp 3 since Warp 3 is pre-AGP cards. For my
> OS/2 applications I only need 16-colour VGA so the default driver with Warp
> 3 would be OK if it would work.
> 
> Can anyone help me please?
> 

Usually Warp treats an AGP card the same way it treats 
a PCI card. When you buy a card check to see if the 
vendor supports OS/2. Matrox S3, and ATI provide
drivers for OS/2. Some others also provide drivers.

Drivers that use the GRADD model video drivers
will require fixpack 35 (?) for Warp 3. Warp 4 has to
be at fixpack 5 (?).

nVidia has a GRADD based driver which will support
their Riva TNT, TNT2 and NIVDIA Vanta. There are
a lot of cards based on these chipsets.

There is a Savage4 driver on the Hobbes web site.

IBM supplies GRADD 80 that will support a number
of cards (Matrox Millenium, Mystique (earlier ones
not  the G100, G200 or G400), ATI Rage, S3 Virge,
S3 Trio, and a number of others).

SDD/2 (Scitech Device Docter) is currently in beta
and professes to support a large number of cards
with only one driver. (I can vouch for this one as I
can swap my G400 for an ATI Rage II C without
re-installing the driver). There are still some
outstanding problems, but they will probably be
resolved quite soon, given the so far excellent
efforts on the part of the developers. IBM has
licensed this driver and when it is finished will
distribute a sub-set through the Device Driver
Repository.

Gradd 80 URL
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/videopak/graddbb/gradd080.e
xe

Hobbes
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu

Scitech Software
http://www.scitechsoft.com

nVidia
http://www.nvidia.com

Lorne Sunley

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From: moschleg@erols.com                                31-Oct-99 11:59:15
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:18
Subj: Re: How to setup Warp4 to use DPMS

From: Mark Schlegel <moschleg@erols.com>

Mark Schlegel wrote:
> 
> I just upgraded my monitor to a new Mag V800
> 19", I also refreshed the video driver to
> 2.31 for the Matrox Millenium 4Meg card I have.
> I have a Pentium Pro XP6NP5 and flashed it to
> the newest bios on the asus web page (for the
> year 2k compliance).  So I figure the system
> should be fine to support DPMS with the monitor
> when I'm not actively using it.
> 
> I know the monitor supports DPMS, and I did turn
> it on in the motherboard bios, is there more
> I need to do?  I've left the monitor alone and
> it doesn't go into sleep mode.   Does the
> os/2 lockup screensaver interfere with
> DPSM? (I still have the lockup setup to run)
> Do I possibly need to install the
> power support in Warp?  It's also possible I
> don't have the right power management setting
> in the asus bios but that's due to there being
> so many settings (and asus doesn't seem to have
> a revised manual for the bios, the pdf file I
> downloaded for the XP6NP5 board seems to
> have instructions for the older bios).
> 
> thanks,
> Mark

Actually to answer my own post, I resolved this by
just downloading black100.zip from hobbes, a DPMS
screen saver and using it seems to work fine.

Mark

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From: muses9@cyberus.ca                                 31-Oct-99 20:53:13
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: AGP graphic card and OS/2 Warp version 3

From: muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko)

Warps 3 and 4 running an ATI AGP Rage Fury with 8 MB RAM, for the past
six months. 

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:02:30, "Paul Goddard" <pcgodda@freeuk.com> made
history by saying:

-> I am considering buying an AGP graphic card for use with Windows 98. I
-> cannot find any drivers listed in OS-2 Device Driver Pack Online and wonder
-> if an AGP card will work with Warp 3 since Warp 3 is pre-AGP cards. For my
-> OS/2 applications I only need 16-colour VGA so the default driver with Warp
-> 3 would be OK if it would work.
-> 
-> Can anyone help me please?
-> 
-> Thanking you in anticipation.
-> 
-> Paul
-> 
-> 

--
Marko
Ottawa

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From: nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net                      31-Oct-99 13:22:02
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Matrox G400 Black Screen

From: "Nick Danger" <nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net>

Yesterday I bought a G400 Max to replace my Millenium II.
I downloaded the v2.31.100 drivers from the Matrox site
so I'd have the latest & greatest, then reset the video
to VGA and installed the hardware. When I got back to
the VGA desktop, I installed the 2.31 drivers per instructions.
Upon reboot, the screen went black as the WPS was
starting and the monitor's little "no video" yellow light
started flashing.  I went through this several times
(reboot, Alt-F1 into VGA, re-install Matrox drivers,
diddle with the MGA settings before rebooting)
with a variety of screen resolutions, always with
the same result.

Has anyone else seen this and gotten past it?

Running Warp4 FP11 on 333MHz P-II w/ 196MB RAM.


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           31-Oct-99 21:49:28
  To: All                                               31-Oct-99 22:05:19
Subj: Re: Matrox G400 Black Screen

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:22:05, "Nick Danger" 
<nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net> wrote:

> Yesterday I bought a G400 Max to replace my Millenium II.
> I downloaded the v2.31.100 drivers from the Matrox site
> so I'd have the latest & greatest, then reset the video
> to VGA and installed the hardware. When I got back to
> the VGA desktop, I installed the 2.31 drivers per instructions.
> Upon reboot, the screen went black as the WPS was
> starting and the monitor's little "no video" yellow light
> started flashing.  I went through this several times
> (reboot, Alt-F1 into VGA, re-install Matrox drivers,
> diddle with the MGA settings before rebooting)
> with a variety of screen resolutions, always with
> the same result.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this and gotten past it?

Try updating the BIOS on the card. Mine had to be
updated from 1.3 to 1.5 or is 1.03 to 1.05.

Before updating the BIOS I had the same kind 
of problems. Of course this was with WSeB SMP
so I can't honestly say that is the problem with
Warp 4 FP 11.

Lorne Sunley
 


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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               31-Oct-99 20:44:01
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 05:45:07
Subj: Re: Matrox G400 Black Screen

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

Sounds like you have the resolution set too high. Try lowering it on the next
install before you reboot.

On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:22:05 -0800 (PST), Nick Danger wrote:

>Yesterday I bought a G400 Max to replace my Millenium II.
>I downloaded the v2.31.100 drivers from the Matrox site
>so I'd have the latest & greatest, then reset the video
>to VGA and installed the hardware. When I got back to
>the VGA desktop, I installed the 2.31 drivers per instructions.
>Upon reboot, the screen went black as the WPS was
>starting and the monitor's little "no video" yellow light
>started flashing.  I went through this several times
>(reboot, Alt-F1 into VGA, re-install Matrox drivers,
>diddle with the MGA settings before rebooting)
>with a variety of screen resolutions, always with
>the same result.
>
>Has anyone else seen this and gotten past it?
>
>Running Warp4 FP11 on 333MHz P-II w/ 196MB RAM.
>
>



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From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com                          01-Nov-99 08:24:11
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com (Kendall Bennett)

In article <941408590.1@natureboy.dyn.tj>, 
derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj says...

> On another note, have you got any software/drivers that will get a
>  matrox marvel (with the tv tuner and capture) working under OS/2.

No. We do not have the information from Matrox on how to develop code for 
that device (they will not give it to us).

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From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com                          01-Nov-99 08:20:23
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com (Kendall Bennett)

In article <abfcnzriefcnzarg.fkg4pk1.pminews@news1.attglobal.net>, 
nospam_evr@spam.net says...

> I doubt that every one wants to do this every 21 days with a beta driver. I
> already registered before the GA release. I would think the Microsoft users
> are you biggest problems when it comes to hackers and pirates. OS/2 users
> appreciate what developers have to offer. 

True. However there are already pirate registration codes for SDD/2 on 
the internet that we know about, so the pirate community is alive and 
thriving on OS/2 as well ;-(.

> Besides, clicking on Warp Center puts this file in plain view.

Sure, and we are working on new ways to hide this information ;-) Some 
people can figure it out, some people can't. If they can't figure it out, 
I would rather they didn't.

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From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com                          01-Nov-99 08:23:20
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com (Kendall Bennett)

In article <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-UM7itUd1TRJd@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>, 
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com says...

> I can't speak to SDD since I haven't yet tested it, but I'll vote also for 
> the general idea of programmers not cluttering the rest of the HD (outside 
> the Program directory) with *any* single-program files. For secret reasons 
> or not.

That file is the only hidden file that we use (for now at least ;-). 
However we *must* have some mechanism of enforcing our 21-day trial 
period to ensure that people actually purchase the product. There is no 
way I am aware of to do that without hiding a file somewhere on the hard 
disk (if you know of a mechanism I am all ears).

> As far as hiding date keys, why not just patch the EAs for one of the 
> standard \OS2 (or \MMOS2, even) files? Nearly impossible to just "stumble 
> across" them there, and even if you know what you're searching for it's not
> all that easy to find and patch it. (Plus it's "veddy OS/2".)

That has been mentioned before, but it does not fit with our existing 
scheme (because the license code is cross platform).

Regards,

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From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com                          01-Nov-99 08:21:19
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: KendallB@scitechsoft.com (Kendall Bennett)

In article <zterrarrkvfarg.fkh8491.pminews@news.exis.net>, 
mgreene@exis.net says...

> As a different question, if I buy SDD will the number I receive work in all
> these releases? I just installed SDD (9) in my Warp 3 FP42 with Matrox G200
-
> works great and I see the speed difference from the MAtrox drivers.

Yes. If you purchase the product you get a code that will unlock all beta 
versions, as well as the final GA product. Note that the price will be 
increasing for the final GA product, so it is cheaper to purchase it 
during the preview period.

> Outstanding product!!

Thanks.

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From: argent@aol.com                                    01-Nov-99 17:49:24
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: TV Cards

From: argent@aol.com (Argent)

I've posted this question to another list, so if you;ve seen it please ignore:

I've seen some limited discussions of the WIN/TV card under OS/2 and it's
piqued my interest. I found it can be bought for about $45, so now I'm
*really* interested. Some questions:

1.) Does it really work? Does the card come with the necessary drivers?

2.)Will it work with a Matrox Millenium II AGP (4 Mb)?

3.) Are there any other cards that work?

4.) What are the biggest problems?

TIA
Note: The $45 card is apparently mono only. $80-90 for stereo.
Jeff

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           01-Nov-99 18:46:13
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 17:33:18
Subj: Re: TV Cards

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:49:49, argent@aol.com (Argent) wrote:

> I've posted this question to another list, so if you;ve seen it please
ignore:
> 
> I've seen some limited discussions of the WIN/TV card under OS/2 and it's
> piqued my interest. I found it can be bought for about $45, so now I'm
> *really* interested. Some questions:
> 
> 1.) Does it really work? Does the card come with the necessary drivers?
> 
Yes it really works.

The drivers are available from the web site

http://www.wdi.co.uk/os2tv/download.htm

You will also have to download one of the two TV
applications that support the card on OS/2

URL http://www3.mb.sympatico.ca/~lsunley

Pick the "Digital TV MCD" link for the application that 
uses the GRADD drivers.
 
URL http://home.t-on-line.de/home/stefan.milcke.homepage.htm

> 2.)Will it work with a Matrox Millenium II AGP (4 Mb)?
> 

Yes, it should work with that card. For the best TV display 
performance
you should use the IBM GRADD 80 drivers for the Matrox card.
The GRADD drivers will allow you to use the drivers "direct draw"
capability that uses hardly any CPU cycles to drive the display.
The display is done through hardware only data transfer between
the TV card and the display card.

URL 
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/videopak/graddbb/gradd080.e
xe

(That line probably wrapped)

Read the GRADD.DOC file that is included with the drivers
for the procedure to set up the "direct draw" GRADD driver
VCAFILT.

> 3.) Are there any other cards that work?
> 

Someone has reported that the AverMedia TVcapture98 card
works with the same driver set.

As far as video cards go, any card supported by the 
Scitech Display Docter for OS/2 should work for the
video display. These drivers are GRADD based and
are compatible with the "direct draw" capabilities of
the TV card drivers.

I've used the TV card with a Matrox G400, Matrox Millenium II
and the ATI 3D Rage II C. with both Warp 4 and WSeB.

The Millenium II is with the GRADD 80 drivers, the G400
and ATI Rage with SDD/2.

> 4.) What are the biggest problems?
> 

The drivers have problems detecting the cards on ASUS
motherboards with an older BIOS. This can usually be cured
by updating the MB BIOS. This has to do with the BIOS
handling of the PCI bus.

Make sure you have a good TV signal (cable works the best).

Using the card with DIVE (that's what is used if you don't have
the GRADD drivers, produces a fairly high CPU load to
draw the TV picture. If you don't have a fast enough machine
this will SLOW down everything else.

Lorne Sunley

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        01-Nov-99 21:27:19
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 19:58:10
Subj: Re: TV Cards

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On 01 Nov 1999 17:49:49 GMT, Argent <argent@aol.com> wrote:
> I've seen some limited discussions of the WIN/TV card under OS/2 and it's
> piqued my interest. I found it can be bought for about $45, so now I'm
> *really* interested. Some questions:
> 
> 1.) Does it really work? Does the card come with the necessary drivers?

Yes, it works.  Some people do have trouble with it, as the drivers
are still development versions and are rather rough around the edges...

Also, using the default setup (DIVE), the picture quality is 
less than optimal...

Rumour has it that using GRADD video drivers greatly improves the
efficiency, and (I think) the picture quality as well.  You need
a compatible video card of course, as well as the GRADD drivers,
a requisite FixPack (35/5), and a TV app that supports it.  Lorne
Sunley named two in his followup.

As for the second part, the drivers do not come with the card.  You
must download them from WDI's website (www.wdi.co.uk/os2tv) and
go to some non-trivial effort to install and configure them.
This package includes a basic TV viewing program, which works under
DIVE only.


(There appears to be another development effort underway, called T&V Happy
player, which I think uses its own (generic 848) drivers.  You could
look on Hobbes for it.  Note that T&V HP so far only supports PAL video,
so it wouldn't be much use outside Europe.)


> 2.)Will it work with a Matrox Millenium II AGP (4 Mb)?

Yes.

> 3.) Are there any other cards that work?

Video cards, or TV cards?  Most OS/2 supported video cards should work
with it.  For TV cards - not officially, although it's possible that 
other BT848-based cards _might_ work (don't bet on it, though).

> 4.) What are the biggest problems?

1. The drivers aren't all that easy to install and configure, although 
   if you read the instructions carefully, and ask for help on Usenet
   as needed, it's generally doable.
 
2. The available TV programs (WTV, YadTV, StWTV) each have various
   quirks, and none of them have particularly stellar user interfaces.
   Of course, these are all under development.

3. TV picture quality is rather pixellated, doesn't scale well, and
   (on my system) looks perpetually washed out (in cyan) - under the
   default DIVE setup.  I keep hearing that GRADD is ever so much
   better, but I've yet to get that to work on my system.

I find it satisfactory for watching TV "in a window".  To watch
full-screen TV, I still find it necessary to reboot into Linux.

HTH...
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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               01-Nov-99 16:54:16
  To: All                                               01-Nov-99 19:58:10
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:20:46 -0600, Kendall Bennett wrote:

>True. However there are already pirate registration codes for SDD/2 on 
>the internet that we know about, so the pirate community is alive and 
>thriving on OS/2 as well ;-(.

Sorry to here that.
BTW I just got my registration in the mail today.


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From: jeswartz@_NOSPAM_pacbell.net                      02-Nov-99 05:15:05
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 03:18:29
Subj: Re: Matrox G400 Black Screen

From: jeswartz@_NOSPAM_pacbell.net (Joel Swartz)

Check out the info below, which I copied from message in this group.  
I had the same problem, so I just deleted the extra PMGAX64.dll and 
all is well now.  Even if you don't use DE, you should verify that you
don't have a copy of the dll someplace. YMMV.

I'll just remind everybody who runs Matrox drivers and DE at the same 
time,
that you have to de-install DE first before installing new Matrox 
drivers. 
DE patches Matrox's PMGAX64.DLL, and when your LIBPATH shows 
=x:\OS2\DEPROG; at the beginning your old version of this will answer 
all 
the PMGAX64 calls. (I just strip the DEPROG statement out of LIBPATH 
before
I reboot, instead of running the DE utilities provided, which probably
do a
thorough job.)
 
Does failing to remember this then lead to a DOSCALL1 error, as in 
this 
circumstance? Could do, maybe. 
 
 
You know, we could really use a utility that presents a rundown of our

installed "enhancers" in a simple table form, so that we can report 
such 
when posting problems like this and allow outsiders to make 
apples-to-apples comparisons. We could start with a questionnaire, I 
guess,
but that's so...manual. But maybe it could be built into a web page 
somewhere, allowing a Report to be POSTed either to a newsgroup or to 
our 
own email box for subsequent copying? Ah well, a subject for a fresh 
thread, sometime.
 
 
 
Good luck,
 
Buddy
 
Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    01-Nov-99 21:32:02
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 03:18:29
Subj: Re: Odd ATI RageII+ problem

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

John Hong wrote:
> 
>         Graham, someone just uploaded some updated ATI Rage series
> drivers at Hobbes.  Perhaps they are worth a look (v5.35b6) I think.
> Currently in the /pub/incoming directory.

I wonder where these originated. Is ATI still churning out updated
drivers but not posting them on their web site? Kind of rude to their
customers if so. I'm going to download them and (carefully!) take a
look.

Graham.

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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi                             02-Nov-99 13:49:16
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 14:32:22
Subj: Re: Adobe Premiere 4.2 SGI/UNIX on Ebay

From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)

And how does this relate to comp.os.os2.setup.video, if I may ask?

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:47:10, hotrod@greaser.net (Greaser.Net) wrote:

> If anyone is interested, I am selling a copy of Adobe Premiere 4.2
> (full retail) for SGI/UNIX on Ebay.


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From: jstotz@canoemail.com                              02-Nov-99 10:50:21
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:17
Subj: Video install files corrupted??

From: James <jstotz@canoemail.com>

I had a bad system crash last week.  I couldn't boot up at all, so I put
in the utility disks, and chkdsk my boot drive, and in the process, many
"bad" files were removed.

In trying to rectify things, I had to re-install the gradd drivers for
the ati rage IIc card.  After I run setup (from the command line) I get
the errors (along with the normal good messages):

SYS1808:
The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
code (exception code) is  0005.
SYS1808:
The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
code (exception code) is  0005.

Everything goes through the motions and installs, but I've had some
problems with graphics rendering.  The cpu meter on the warp centre
spikes more than it used to and overall cpu usage is up when doing any
graphics.  It seems as the acceleration didn't fully install.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the source files, but there
may be a problem with a setup file that is used, that is part of the
main OS/2 stuff.  It has been a while, but I get errors using the
display driver install as well.

Anyone with any ideas?  Which files are called outside of the gradd file
to install video devices?

Cheers,
James Stotz
Physics
SFU

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           02-Nov-99 19:14:22
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 16:47:18
Subj: Re: Video install files corrupted??

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:50:43, James <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:

> I had a bad system crash last week.  I couldn't boot up at all, so I put
> in the utility disks, and chkdsk my boot drive, and in the process, many
> "bad" files were removed.
> 
> In trying to rectify things, I had to re-install the gradd drivers for
> the ati rage IIc card.  After I run setup (from the command line) I get
> the errors (along with the normal good messages):
> 
> SYS1808:
> The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
> code (exception code) is  0005.
> SYS1808:
> The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
> code (exception code) is  0005.
> 
> Everything goes through the motions and installs, but I've had some
> problems with graphics rendering.  The cpu meter on the warp centre
> spikes more than it used to and overall cpu usage is up when doing any
> graphics.  It seems as the acceleration didn't fully install.
> 
> I don't think there is anything wrong with the source files, but there
> may be a problem with a setup file that is used, that is part of the
> main OS/2 stuff.  It has been a while, but I get errors using the
> display driver install as well.
> 
> Anyone with any ideas?  Which files are called outside of the gradd file
> to install video devices?
> 

I hate to say this, but there were some necessary files removed
when CHKDSK wiped out the "bad" files.

About the only way to recover from this is to re-install Warp
and all your applications. I suggest that you do this to a
freshly formatted partition AFTER you have copied any
program and data files that you want to save to another 
drive.

You can try just re-installing it but the files placed on the
boot disk by fixpacks etc may not get replaced during
the install (if it will run at all) and you will be left with a system
that may not boot.

I always split my drives into at least two partitions, one for
the OS and one for everything else. I do a lot of development
and beta testing and having CHKDSK wipe your hard drive 
after a crash is an expected result (not a happy one but
it is expected - at least after the first time).

Lorne Sunley

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From: jstotz@canoemail.com                              02-Nov-99 14:02:02
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: Video install files corrupted??

From: James <jstotz@canoemail.com>

In our lab, I have access to other systems that are on the same fixpak level.
I looked, and there seem to be a lot of differences there, but are there any
key files that really should be replaced/added that I could bring over on the
network?

If not, I do have other partitions that hold all my good stuff.  I hate it
that windows wants to put everything in "program files" on the boot
drive...this is dumb.

Cheers,
James

Lorne Sunley wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:50:43, James <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
>
> > I had a bad system crash last week.  I couldn't boot up at all, so I put
> > in the utility disks, and chkdsk my boot drive, and in the process, many
> > "bad" files were removed.
> >
> > In trying to rectify things, I had to re-install the gradd drivers for
> > the ati rage IIc card.  After I run setup (from the command line) I get
> > the errors (along with the normal good messages):
> >
> > SYS1808:
> > The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
> > code (exception code) is  0005.
> > SYS1808:
> > The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
> > code (exception code) is  0005.
> >
> > Everything goes through the motions and installs, but I've had some
> > problems with graphics rendering.  The cpu meter on the warp centre
> > spikes more than it used to and overall cpu usage is up when doing any
> > graphics.  It seems as the acceleration didn't fully install.
> >
> > I don't think there is anything wrong with the source files, but there
> > may be a problem with a setup file that is used, that is part of the
> > main OS/2 stuff.  It has been a while, but I get errors using the
> > display driver install as well.
> >
> > Anyone with any ideas?  Which files are called outside of the gradd file
> > to install video devices?
> >
>
> I hate to say this, but there were some necessary files removed
> when CHKDSK wiped out the "bad" files.
>
> About the only way to recover from this is to re-install Warp
> and all your applications. I suggest that you do this to a
> freshly formatted partition AFTER you have copied any
> program and data files that you want to save to another
> drive.
>
> You can try just re-installing it but the files placed on the
> boot disk by fixpacks etc may not get replaced during
> the install (if it will run at all) and you will be left with a system
> that may not boot.
>
> I always split my drives into at least two partitions, one for
> the OS and one for everything else. I do a lot of development
> and beta testing and having CHKDSK wipe your hard drive
> after a crash is an expected result (not a happy one but
> it is expected - at least after the first time).
>
> Lorne Sunley

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           02-Nov-99 22:31:16
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: Video install files corrupted??

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

Hi

I meant to include in the other message that you basically need the

\OS2 directory and all subdirectories
\DESKTOP directory and all subdirectories

Lorne Sunley

<snip the message>

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           02-Nov-99 22:29:12
  To: All                                               02-Nov-99 19:59:29
Subj: Re: Video install files corrupted??

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

There is the possibility that you could copy over all of the files 
from
one of the other machines to the broken one. The best way would be to
XCOPY the boot partition from the other machine to a sub-directory
on the machine that is broken. Then boot up to a command prompt
using diskettes and XCOPY the files from the sub-directory over
the files on the boot partition.

The files brought over from the other machine should be copied
to a different drive on the subject machine, that way you won't
confuse yourself.

That will replace all the files and should result in a bootable
machine. Of course the desktop on the "fixed" machine will
match that of the other machine.

Lorne Sunley

On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:02:05, James <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:

> In our lab, I have access to other systems that are on the same fixpak
level.
> I looked, and there seem to be a lot of differences there, but are there any
> key files that really should be replaced/added that I could bring over on
the
> network?
> 
> If not, I do have other partitions that hold all my good stuff.  I hate it
> that windows wants to put everything in "program files" on the boot
> drive...this is dumb.
> 
> Cheers,
> James
> 
> Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:50:43, James <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I had a bad system crash last week.  I couldn't boot up at all, so I put
> > > in the utility disks, and chkdsk my boot drive, and in the process, many
> > > "bad" files were removed.
> > >
> > > In trying to rectify things, I had to re-install the gradd drivers for
> > > the ati rage IIc card.  After I run setup (from the command line) I get
> > > the errors (along with the normal good messages):
> > >
> > > SYS1808:
> > > The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
> > > code (exception code) is  0005.
> > > SYS1808:
> > > The process has stopped.  The software diagnostic
> > > code (exception code) is  0005.
> > >
> > > Everything goes through the motions and installs, but I've had some
> > > problems with graphics rendering.  The cpu meter on the warp centre
> > > spikes more than it used to and overall cpu usage is up when doing any
> > > graphics.  It seems as the acceleration didn't fully install.
> > >
> > > I don't think there is anything wrong with the source files, but there
> > > may be a problem with a setup file that is used, that is part of the
> > > main OS/2 stuff.  It has been a while, but I get errors using the
> > > display driver install as well.
> > >
> > > Anyone with any ideas?  Which files are called outside of the gradd file
> > > to install video devices?
> > >
> >
> > I hate to say this, but there were some necessary files removed
> > when CHKDSK wiped out the "bad" files.
> >
> > About the only way to recover from this is to re-install Warp
> > and all your applications. I suggest that you do this to a
> > freshly formatted partition AFTER you have copied any
> > program and data files that you want to save to another
> > drive.
> >
> > You can try just re-installing it but the files placed on the
> > boot disk by fixpacks etc may not get replaced during
> > the install (if it will run at all) and you will be left with a system
> > that may not boot.
> >
> > I always split my drives into at least two partitions, one for
> > the OS and one for everything else. I do a lot of development
> > and beta testing and having CHKDSK wipe your hard drive
> > after a crash is an expected result (not a happy one but
> > it is expected - at least after the first time).
> >
> > Lorne Sunley
> 


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    03-Nov-99 03:34:18
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: Odd ATI RageII+ problem

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Graham C. Norris (spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com) wrote:
: John Hong wrote:
: > 
: >         Graham, someone just uploaded some updated ATI Rage series
: > drivers at Hobbes.  Perhaps they are worth a look (v5.35b6) I think.
: > Currently in the /pub/incoming directory.

: I wonder where these originated. Is ATI still churning out updated
: drivers but not posting them on their web site? Kind of rude to their
: customers if so. I'm going to download them and (carefully!) take a
: look.

	IBM does.  The only reason why people see those and the S3 ViRGE 
series drivers being updated at all is because IBM has those chipsets 
built into some of their computers (ie. PC 300/700 series).

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From: zeppelin@gte.net                                  03-Nov-99 06:00:25
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 03:33:28
Subj: Re: TV Cards

From: "zeppelin@gte.net" <zeppelin@gte.net>

Yes The Hauppauge cards work well with the driver set from abbottsbury
software,
once you  are installed ok, use the video tool kit's utility : Wincast1 config 
 to
set the tuner region to USA.RGN and select your first channel and...... bink
you
are in business.

If your card is a WINCAST card, trying to use the video composite in jack may
be
confusing. For mine, I could select "tuner" for tuner, but Vid1 did nothing,
Vid2
made the single  composite video input work like a charm

Argent wrote:

> I've posted this question to another list, so if you;ve seen it please
ignore:
>
> I've seen some limited discussions of the WIN/TV card under OS/2 and it's
> piqued my interest. I found it can be bought for about $45, so now I'm
> *really* interested. Some questions:
>
> 1.) Does it really work? Does the card come with the necessary drivers?
>
> 2.)Will it work with a Matrox Millenium II AGP (4 Mb)?
>
> 3.) Are there any other cards that work?
>
> 4.) What are the biggest problems?
>
> TIA
> Note: The $45 card is apparently mono only. $80-90 for stereo.
> Jeff

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From: gjo@no.spam                                       03-Nov-99 19:15:11
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Diamond Viper V770 Ultra OS/2 and Xfree86

From: Greg O'Sullivan <gjo@no.spam>

I just installed OS/2 and Xfree86 on a machine with a V770
32MB video card. (Nvidia TNT2 ultra based).

I used the Nvidia GRADD drivers from their web site.
I only get 60Hz refresh rate, seems to work OK

I also installed Xfree86 3.3.5 which works OK but when
I switch back to the OS/2 desktop the mouse cursor is
invisible.

Anyone got any ideas to solve these problems,
refresh rate and missing mouse cursor?
The mouse cursor is making X a one way trip
for me at present.

Greg O'Sullivan
gjo at deakin dot edu dot au

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From: gjo@no.spam                                       03-Nov-99 19:29:23
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 06:18:16
Subj: Re: Diamond Viper V770 Ultra OS/2 and Xfree86

From: Greg O'Sullivan <gjo@no.spam>


Greg O'Sullivan wrote:
> 
> I just installed OS/2 and Xfree86 on a machine with a V770
> 32MB video card. (Nvidia TNT2 ultra based).
> 
> I used the Nvidia GRADD drivers from their web site.
> I only get 60Hz refresh rate, seems to work OK
> 
> I also installed Xfree86 3.3.5 which works OK but when
> I switch back to the OS/2 desktop the mouse cursor is
> invisible.
> 
> Anyone got any ideas to solve these problems,
> refresh rate and missing mouse cursor?
> The mouse cursor is making X a one way trip
> for me at present.
> 
> Greg O'Sullivan
> gjo at deakin dot edu dot au

I should add that this is a fresh install of Warp 4 plus FP12 on
a P3-450 with 128MB RAM, monitor is a 21" MAG, AGP Viper 770 32MB.

Greg O'Sullivan

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From: aeh@sci.fi                                        03-Nov-99 23:43:06
  To: All                                               03-Nov-99 21:54:23
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: Alexander Ehrnrooth <aeh@sci.fi>

Kendall,
I think you misunderstood me here. I'm not trying to circumvent your
licensing mechanisms at all, just fiddling around trying to find a good OS/2
driver for my TNT card. If you guys fix the bugs in SDD (hanging winos2 and
some slight snowing) as well as provide accelerated support for tnt I'll be
happy to buy a copy of SDD.
Alex

Kendall Bennett wrote:

> In article <38152BD2.58B1DA5B@linkline.com>,
> spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com says...
>
> > There's a hidden file placed in the root directory of your boot drive
> > which is called IO32.SYS if my memory serves me correctly. I think this
> > contains the install date.
>
> I appreciate the fact that people *want* to circumvent our licensing
> mechanisms. The more people who circumvent the licensing, the less
> revenue we get and the less of a product you guys get.
>
> So go right ahead, pirate SDD/2 but don't *EVER* complain to my company
> that something in SDD/2 does not work they way you want it to.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
>
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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> | Director of Engineering  | the reply to email address. Do NOT send   |
> | SciTech Software, Inc.   | unsolicited commercial email!             |
> | 505 Wall Street          | ftp  : ftp.scitechsoft.com                |
> | Chico, CA 95928, USA     | www  : http://www.scitechsoft.com         |
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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      04-Nov-99 02:20:25
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 03:16:20
Subj: Re: Scitech Display Doctor

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <MPG.12875e6befe6baca9896b6@news.stormnet.com>,
  KendallB@scitechsoft.com (Kendall Bennett) wrote:

> That file is the only hidden file that we use (for now at least ;-).
> However we *must* have some mechanism of enforcing our 21-day trial
> period to ensure that people actually purchase the product. There is
> no  way I am aware of to do that without hiding a file somewhere on
> the hard disk (if you know of a mechanism I am all ears).

You need to pick a less interesting filename. (Maybe STDDGRADD.SYS?)
IO32.SYS is just too darn interesting a filename for most OS/2 users to
leave alone! :) Plus it's in the root directory of the boot drive, a
place no user would ever keep an important system file (besides
config.sys). Put it in a directory nobody really ever looks in, like
\os2\boot. Alternatly, you could use an obfuscated OS/2 registry entry.

Good luck, loved the Warpstock presentation, and keep up the excellent
work!

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com                04-Nov-99 15:01:25
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 05:57:21
Subj: Re: Diamond Viper V770 Ultra OS/2 and Xfree86

From: John Youells <jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com>

Greg O'Sullivan <gjo@no.spam> wrote:

>I just installed OS/2 and Xfree86 on a machine with a V770
>32MB video card. (Nvidia TNT2 ultra based).
>
>I used the Nvidia GRADD drivers from their web site.
>I only get 60Hz refresh rate, seems to work OK
>
>I also installed Xfree86 3.3.5 which works OK but when
>I switch back to the OS/2 desktop the mouse cursor is
>invisible.
>
>Anyone got any ideas to solve these problems,
>refresh rate and missing mouse cursor?
>The mouse cursor is making X a one way trip
>for me at present.
>
>Greg O'Sullivan
>gjo at deakin dot edu dot au


  I don't run XFree86 under OS/2 but I would suggest that you try loading a
color mouse cursor set under OS/2 and see what happens. (I do have experience
with Nvidia's gradd driver and 60Hz ;) 



John Youells
LifeStream Computing

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From: myself@pbn.dp.ua                                  04-Nov-99 12:56:11
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 10:28:12
Subj: !sdd/2 b8/b9

From: Ivan Klimenko <myself@pbn.dp.ua>

Hi !

	I'm try use sdd/2 7.0 b6, b8 and b9 at home OS/2 Warp3 Connect + Fix
36. With STB Velocity 128 (Riva 128).

	But i can't see hardware cursor in any (os/2 & VDM) VIO window! Whats
wrong ? And in full screen session image "shaked" 8=(

-- 

Ivan Klimenko   [Team OS/2]
e-mail:         myself@pbn.dp.ua
net-mail:       2:464/69.11@fidonet, 2:464/27.26@fidonet
ccmail:         Ivan Klimenko at Privat-Nikopol

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From: chris@network23.karoo.co.uk                       04-Nov-99 19:05:17
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:22
Subj: Voodoo 3 2000 ?

From: "Chris D." <chris@network23.karoo.co.uk>

Are there any drivers for this card for OS/2 Warp?


Chris D.


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From: larijani@arrow.utias.utoronto.ca                  04-Nov-99 19:24:29
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:22
Subj: Re: AGP graphic card and OS/2 Warp version 3

From: larijani@arrow.utias.utoronto.ca (Rambod Larijani)

In article <QLLC0h0LvdvF-pn2-D5FzpK8lmHF6@localhost>,
   muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko) wrote:
>Warps 3 and 4 running an ATI AGP Rage Fury with 8 MB RAM, for the past
>six months. 

Are the drivers for that card on Hobbes or the IBM device driver site?

Thanks.

Rambod

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From: Christian.Hesker@T-Online.de                      04-Nov-99 23:10:05
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 16:45:22
Subj: OS/2 display driver for ELSA Erazor 2 ?

From: Christian Hesker <Christian.Hesker@T-Online.de>

I just bought a ELSA Erazor 2 graphicscard (PCI, 16MB, Ndivia 
TNT-chip). Everthing works fine under Win98. But after installing the 
GRADD driver from Ndivia for OS/2 (latest version) I always got the 
error ¯c0000005 in IBMGPMI.DLL® during bootup. According to Ndivia the 
driver should work for any TNT based adapter.
My system: AMD K2-400, 104MB, OS/2 4 FP10
I mailed the problem to Ndivia and ELSA but no reaction so far (of 
course not...).
Any ideas ?

Thank you

         Chris



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From: fisa@jet.uk                                       04-Nov-99 22:40:20
  To: All                                               04-Nov-99 19:52:02
Subj: Re: Voodoo 3 2000 ?

From: filippo sartori <fisa@jet.uk>

Unaccelerated: SDD
I can run them at 8bpp and 16bpp

Filippo


"Chris D." wrote:

> Are there any drivers for this card for OS/2 Warp?
>
> Chris D.

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From: prayer5@my-deja.com                               05-Nov-99 00:59:26
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: Fixed frequency monitors

From: prayer5@my-deja.com

In article <381A6DAC.D90122B4@csolve.net>,
  JohnS <jscott@csolve.net> wrote:
> I'm using a Sun (Hitachi 4119) here with a Mystique and 2 meg memory.
> At 1024x768 max color depth is 64000.
> If you can get the monitor for under $100 it is well worth while.
> No, you cannot run DOS games full screen and since Matrox has not
chosen
> to include a VSVGA driver, you will be limited in your DOS windowed
> support
> to VGA only.
> Yes, the winos2 support is good as long as it doesn't try full screen.
>
I too have been using a fixed freq monitor for 8 years ( Toshiba 21").
It died so now I have a SUN 20D10 and a Mirage Savage 3D card. That
card has DOS software to setup all the graphics and text modes
and "flash" them into EEPROM on the card. Windows 9x works great! OS2
however tries to go to a sub 55Khz rate for VGA and not the 81Khz set
up by the flashed video board. Like it takes direct control and tries
to force a certan mode. (This is the Alt-F1 F3 mode.)

If anyone knows how to modify the base video out to work with faster
monitors - tell me.


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From: nospamless@home.com                               05-Nov-99 03:00:08
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: OS/2 display driver for ELSA Erazor 2 ?

From: "ùgÏH" <nospamless@home.com>

In <19991104.23101181@Christian.Hesker.DIALIN.T-ONLINE.DE>, on 11/04/99 
   at 11:10 PM, Christian Hesker <Christian.Hesker@T-Online.de> said:

>I just bought a ELSA Erazor 2 graphicscard (PCI, 16MB, Ndivia  TNT-chip).
>Everthing works fine under Win98. But after installing the  GRADD driver
>from Ndivia for OS/2 (latest version) I always got the  error ¯c0000005 in
>IBMGPMI.DLL® during bootup. According to Ndivia the  driver should work for
>any TNT based adapter.
>My system: AMD K2-400, 104MB, OS/2 4 FP10
>I mailed the problem to Ndivia and ELSA but no reaction so far (of  course
>not...).
>Any ideas ?

Elsa no longer supports OS/2... don't support Elsa... return the card for
refund...

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From: nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net                      04-Nov-99 22:35:11
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 03:42:23
Subj: Re: Suggestions

From: "Nick Danger" <nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net>

On 22 Oct 1999 17:18:27 GMT, John Hong wrote:

> Any opinions on the
> Trident/Cirrus offerings?  As good, better than say a S3 ViRGE/DX?

My machine originally came with a Trident 985. It sorta worked
under OS/2, but the monitor was always jumping around. I ended
up replacing it with a Matrox Millenium II.

> Any suggestions for low-end AGP video cards?

A Matrox Millenium II.  There's one on eBay right
now for $15.


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From: nospam_ktk@netlabs.org                            05-Nov-99 12:28:17
  To: All                                               05-Nov-99 10:29:19
Subj: Re: OS/2 display driver for ELSA Erazor 2 ?

From: "Adrian Gschwend" <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org>

On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 23:10:11 GMT, Christian Hesker wrote:

Forget the old driver, get SDD/2. Single user license will be free because
IBM licensed the product.

get it at http://www.scitechsoft.com

>I mailed the problem to Ndivia and ELSA but no reaction so far (of 

I don't think that you will ever get a reaction by them.

cu

Adrian


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