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From: doug@hotrocks.msfc.nasa.gov                       22-Oct-99 18:22:22
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:01
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: doug@hotrocks.msfc.nasa.gov

Hans K. Aspenberg wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:19:33 GMT, George Czerw wrote:
> 
> :>I downloaded it and just installed it.  It does not appear to have a
> :>realtime virus scanner for OS/2 or anything else.  The only thing that
> :>I found was a "realtime DOS behavior pattern scanner".
> :>
> 
> As earlier stated in some connected thread, we're working on it. It's
> currently not a part of the product. I expect that an early-experience
> version of the realtime [on-access] scanner to be ready quite soon.
> 
> A demo of the current version can be downloaded from
> http://www.norman.com/local/evals/evalnvc.htm
> 
> ;-)) Hans
> ---
> 
> Hans K. Aspenberg
> hka@norman.no


As per request.  

1. I have just tried http://www.norman.no/corporate/demo_nvc.htm.  It
gave the 404 error.

2. I downloaded http://www.norman.com/local/evals/downloads/sos2.zip
twice.   Both were not recognized by unzip version 5.40 (which I think
is the latest version).  I suspect these are in one of MicroSoft's
non-standard, proprietary formats.  Any suggestions?  Or has a virus
damaged my zip installation? ;-)

We still want to test the software.  

Doug

GHCC/MSFC/NASA

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           22-Oct-99 20:37:05
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:22:44, doug@hotrocks.msfc.nasa.gov wrote:

> Hans K. Aspenberg wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:19:33 GMT, George Czerw wrote:
> > 
> > :>I downloaded it and just installed it.  It does not appear to have a
> > :>realtime virus scanner for OS/2 or anything else.  The only thing that
> > :>I found was a "realtime DOS behavior pattern scanner".
> > :>
> > 
> > As earlier stated in some connected thread, we're working on it. It's
> > currently not a part of the product. I expect that an early-experience
> > version of the realtime [on-access] scanner to be ready quite soon.
> > 
> > A demo of the current version can be downloaded from
> > http://www.norman.com/local/evals/evalnvc.htm
> > 
> > ;-)) Hans
> > ---
> > 
> > Hans K. Aspenberg
> > hka@norman.no
> 
> 
> As per request.  
> 
> 1. I have just tried http://www.norman.no/corporate/demo_nvc.htm.  It
> gave the 404 error.
> 
> 2. I downloaded http://www.norman.com/local/evals/downloads/sos2.zip
> twice.   Both were not recognized by unzip version 5.40 (which I think
> is the latest version).  I suspect these are in one of MicroSoft's
> non-standard, proprietary formats.  Any suggestions?  Or has a virus
> damaged my zip installation? ;-)
> 
> We still want to test the software.  
> 
> Doug

I just tried the download and it unzipped just fine with
Info-Zip's UNZIP version 5.2

You could try that version or use PKWare version 2.5 for
OS/2 which also has no trouble with it.

BTW - the expansion does "extracting" and "Inflating" to
obtain the compressed files.

Lorne Sunley

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          22-Oct-99 21:47:04
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 04:42:02
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:22:44, doug@hotrocks.msfc.nasa.gov wrote:

:I downloaded http://www.norman.com/local/evals/downloads/sos2.zip
:twice.   Both were not recognized by unzip version 5.40 (which I think
:is the latest version).  I suspect these are in one of MicroSoft's
:non-standard, proprietary formats.  Any suggestions?  Or has a virus
:damaged my zip installation? ;-)

 Worked fine for me, downloaded with wget.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Oct-99 09:30:08
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:19:33, gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw) 
wrote:

> I downloaded it and just installed it.  It does not appear to have a 
> realtime virus scanner for OS/2 or anything else.  The only thing that
> I found was a "realtime DOS behavior pattern scanner".
>  
> George
>  
> 

Hmmm. Looks to me like it does have something that lives in the 
background. I get a green rectangle, that indicates "NVCSYS v4" when I
start a DOS session (windowed, or full screen). Check to see if you 
got the line:
DEVICE=x:\NORMAN\DOS\NVC.SYS
inserted into your CONFIG.SYS. That seems to be what does it. From 
reading the docs, I feel confident that the "realtime DOS behaviour 
pattern scanner" is a realtime virus prevention thing, and the 
description makes a lot of sense.

I am also assured, (in another post) that Norman is working on 
something new, that will make the current resident thing obsolete.

I feel very confident, at this point, that Norman will get some cash 
from me.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Oct-99 09:30:11
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:22:44, doug@hotrocks.msfc.nasa.gov wrote:

> 2. I downloaded http://www.norman.com/local/evals/downloads/sos2.zip
> twice.   Both were not recognized by unzip version 5.40 (which I think
> is the latest version).  I suspect these are in one of MicroSoft's
> non-standard, proprietary formats.  Any suggestions?  Or has a virus
> damaged my zip installation? ;-)
>  
> We still want to test the software.  
>  
> Doug
>  

I used AWget/Wget to download it, and used UNZIP 5.32, with no 
trouble. 

UNZIP 5.4 does have a couple of "problems". One of them has something 
to do with a certain method of compressing data, which PKWare (not 
Microsoft) seems to have copyrighted, and they had to pull from the 
5.4 version of UNZIP. If the ZIPed file happens to have that type of 
compression, UNZIP 5.4 cannot unzip it. Earlier versions of UNZIP 
still have the support for that compression format.

You can also use the OS/2 version of PKUNZIP, from PKWare.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Oct-99 09:30:14
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:53:24, "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net> 
wrote:

> Mac Eld wrote:
> > 
> > The end of December 99 is the end of signature updates for IBM AV. NAV for 
OS2 is
> > available for corporate users only. Stand alone desktop OS/2 users are
just plain
> > SOL as far as Symantec is concerned. Sad, ain't it?
> 
> Well, there's still McAfee, Norman seems to be coming on strong
> (per reports I'm hearing), and Walter Metcalf's OS/2 site on
> About.Com has a new announcement that the venerable F-PROT is
> going to spawn an OS/2 version.  I'd say the glass is half-
> full on this one . . . 
> 
> <jf>
 
I did look at F-Prot for OS/2. It looked pretty good, but it is just a
scanner, there is nothing resident to stop a virus from doing it's 
dirty work (unless I missed something). Check out 
http://www.complex.is/f-prot/Download.html for more information.

I also checked out:
Command AV: http://www.commandcom.com/
Panda AV: http://www.pandasoftware.com/
and one other (I seem to have lost the web site). All of them seem to 
be only scanners, and have no resident thing to stop viruses, or they 
were impossibly slow.

Symantec (Norton AV), doesn't seem to want the business.

I did not look at the current McAfee offering. From past experience 
(quite a while back, I will admit), I was not very impressed with 
their OS/2 support, or with the performance hit that I took when I had
their software installed. I suppose, I should look again.

Having downloaded, and installed, the demo of the Norman OS/2 AV, I am
quite impressed. It seems to be as good as, if not better than, the 
IBM AV for OS/2, although I don't have a virus to test it with (no, I 
don't want one, thanks). Development does seem to be continuing, and 
the record does seem to be good, from what I have heard.

I think the glass is slightly over half <g>.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 23-Oct-99 11:17:25
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

>1. I have just tried http://www.norman.no/corporate/demo_nvc.htm.  It
>gave the 404 error.

Yep, same here.  I tried my local office (Australia) and it does not
even seem to have an eval page and does not mention OS/2 at all
(sigh...)

Craig

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    23-Oct-99 12:21:29
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:06
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Rock Ridge Extensions

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:22:02, Christian Hennecke 
<christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:

> The /W switch only activates Joliet support, but not support for
> Rockridge AFAIK. RSJ claims that their CD-Writer filesystem is also
> capable of Rockridge support, but I've never tried to read such a CD
> using it and never found any TRANS.TBL files on the CDs that I made
> myself. Download the demo-version and see yourself.

FWIW, I tried it and it worked fine for me.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: hka@norman.no                                     23-Oct-99 17:18:12
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: "Hans K. Aspenberg" <hka@norman.no>

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:17:51 GMT, Mooo wrote:

:>>1. I have just tried http://www.norman.no/corporate/demo_nvc.htm.  It
:>>gave the 404 error.

Seems like the Norwegian Web site is missing this page. Visit the US website
instead. A demo of the current version can be downloaded from
http://www.norman.com/local/evals/evalnvc.htm

;-)) Hans

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Hans K. Aspenberg
hka@norman.no


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From: hka@norman.no                                     23-Oct-99 17:22:02
  To: All                                               23-Oct-99 14:34:07
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: "Hans K. Aspenberg" <hka@norman.no>

On 21 Oct 1999 06:54:09 GMT, Harald Eilertsen wrote:

:>On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:14:35, Meinolf Sondermann <merlins@ibm.net> 
:>wrote:
:>
:>> Does Norman provide a realtime scanner for network traffic ?
:>
:>No, only files written to or read from disk are scanned.

Thus, if the On-access scanner is run on a file server, network traffic via
file sharing will be covered. 

;-)) Hans
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Hans K. Aspenberg
hka@norman.no


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From: csaba@chem.umass.edu                              23-Oct-99 20:44:05
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 05:23:23
Subj: Re: Print to graphic [was Re: METAFILE CONVERTION]

From: "Bagyinka, Csaba" <csaba@chem.umass.edu>


> Mat Kramer wrote:
>
> > A more general question: is there a printer driver that will allow
> > output to be saved as a file and then imported into Word 97 as a
> > graphic?  Word will import HPGL -- which driver should I use for that?

There is a TIFF printer driver. You can find it in new OMNI printer driver
set. It is B&W
though.
Word will import TIFF.


Csaba Bagyinka



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From: not@here.invalid                                  24-Oct-99 15:12:08
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:21
Subj: COM port setup in DOS box under os/2

From: not@here.invalid (Braxton Burrsaddle)

I'm using an application in a DOS window in os/2 to communicate with a
servo controller (for those interested it's a Galil DMC-2050).  The 
controller needs a serial connection at 19.2 kbps, and that is what I 
set up in the batch file that calls the terminal application.  I've 
found that calling the batch file the first time in an os/2 session 
sets the communication parameters right, but if I close and then 
invoke it again, the communication hangs.  

The SIO.SYS parameters come up in the Win-os/2 settings right, and 
they're set up for a hardware handshake.  Every time I call the batch 
file the response is:

Asynchronous communication parameters have been set.

Then, the terminal application loads properly.

Why does the communication stop working when the COM port settings are
sent the second time?

TIA 

Greg    

zgzw2@dnzai.com  :  reply-to bogus, remove z's to construct email 
address.

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From: jonphil@attglobal.net                             24-Oct-99 16:48:13
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 14:29:21
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: Jonathan Phillips <jonphil@attglobal.net>

Is this a case of Symantic going back on the information provided that said
that support would be provided for all platforms, or are they getting round it
by saying that there is an OS/2 version, but not aimed at home users like
IBM's
was???

Jonathan

postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote:

> In <3807A8BB.8EC46E7D@i-55.com>, on 10/15/99
>    at 05:20 PM, Mac Eld <dmaceld@i-55.com> said:
>
> >The end of December 99 is the end of signature updates for IBM AV. NAV for
> >OS2 is available for corporate users only. Stand alone desktop OS/2 users
> >are just plain SOL as far as Symantec is concerned. Sad, ain't it?
>
> Where did you see this?  Unbelievable.
>
> --
> GK
>
> FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
> OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12
> There are 30 Processes with 121 Threads.
> This machine's uptime is 6d 13h 47m 37s 375ms.

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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            24-Oct-99 20:04:09
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 16:44:17
Subj: Re: COM port setup in DOS box under os/2

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <r0n4Y1yPC6HE-pn2-zcddiH8o6QKZ@localhost>, not@here.invalid (Braxton
Burrsaddle) writes:
>I'm using an application in a DOS window in os/2 to communicate with a
>servo controller (for those interested it's a Galil DMC-2050).  The 
>controller needs a serial connection at 19.2 kbps, and that is what I 
>set up in the batch file that calls the terminal application.  I've 
>found that calling the batch file the first time in an os/2 session 
>sets the communication parameters right, but if I close and then 
>invoke it again, the communication hangs.  
>
>The SIO.SYS parameters come up in the Win-os/2 settings right, and 
>they're set up for a hardware handshake.  Every time I call the batch 
>file the response is:
>
>Asynchronous communication parameters have been set.
>
>Then, the terminal application loads properly.
>
>Why does the communication stop working when the COM port settings are
>sent the second time?
>
>TIA 
>
>Greg    

Greg ..  I wonder?  Can you turn the power off and on in this
controller, like an external modem?  Or is it an internal device and you
can't turn it off and on?  Reason I ask is that when using OS/2 and
DOS-VDM sessions with TNC controllers for ham packet use, I see this
sort of thing on occaision.  I can break the syndrome by turning the
power off on the TNC and then life's wonderful the next time around.

It's irregular with my station.  I've not dug deeply into it.  However I
think I understand that what is happening is that there is data still in
the buffer for the device.  If the buffer isn't clean, then on a
re-init, the device can't init, because it can't flush the buffer.

I thought I learned a long time ago that OS/2 doesn't actually have the
"port" until it is needed for a certain session.  It's, remember, a
virtual port, an object, if I understand all this right.  One of the
problems I think I understand that erupts, is that OS/2, being
pre-emptively multi-tasking, is perfectly free to both create and
de-create that port as needed for its own internal threading et. al.

That ain't so good for serial port applications which are running in
real time, provided that there is no real way to control the data flow
in syncronization with what OS/2 will allow as a pre-emptive
multi-tasker.  On packet, or for satellite links, for example, the
device at the other end may not stop sending data until it can be shut
down, which may be way behind what OS/2 thinks it is OK to pre-empt!

You have to excercise real control over buffering and buffer sizes to
make sure you have enough space to handle all error-generated
contingencies!

Thus, like cows in a trailer, if you yank the loading chute out from
under the string of them coming out of the trailer down into the pen,
one of two things has to happen.  Either some of them will fall out on
the ground and get mangled, or, if the application can stop the herd,
some of them may still be in the trailer .. lost...

If an empty trailer is one prequirement for putting a new chute in place
. and you have no way to remove them .. no cows in the pen again that
load.  If you can make the traier dissapear and re-appear, beef for
supper!

--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike - W5WQN
Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     24-Oct-99 20:21:15
  To: All                                               24-Oct-99 19:49:27
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:48:26, Jonathan Phillips 
<jonphil@attglobal.net> wrote:

> Is this a case of Symantic going back on the information provided that said
> that support would be provided for all platforms, or are they getting round
it
> by saying that there is an OS/2 version, but not aimed at home users like
IBM's
> was???
>  
> Jonathan
>  
> postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote:
>

IMO, YES, and YES.

Norman (http://www.norman.no/), is still the winner, so far, in my 
search. I am also going to recommend it to users of other operating 
systems (too bad, Symantec, you are losing business on the OTHER 
platforms, because you are not supporting OS/2)...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: NOSPAMmarshall@attglobal.net                      24-Oct-99 21:27:23
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 03:26:09
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: "James F. Marshall" <NOSPAMmarshall@attglobal.net>

On 18 Oct 1999 08:40:21 GMT, Harald Eilertsen wrote:

:>No denying, Win is where the money is, and where most of the 
:>developers work. But OS/2 is one of our target platforms, and we have 
:>in house developers. I am myself working exclusively with the OS/2 
:>version. (On-access scanner).

Sounds good.  I will buy the next version.

Are you planning to distribute through Indelible Blue?  That is where I
order most of my OS/2 software.


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From: nick@secant.com                                   25-Oct-99 07:40:11
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 10:31:28
Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers!

From: Nick Knight <nick@secant.com>

In <380c23f5$1$avgroveq$mr2ice@netnews.voicenet.com>, on 10/19/99 
   at 03:28 AM, nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann) said:

>Every so often I'll get a message that will cause trouble. There is a
>stray character somewhere that bugs my mail client and the message is not
>completely read because the mail client stalls on the bad character. Next
>time messages are fetched we repeat the above. I can also imagine that a
>bad character in the message file name will cause trouble.

If this is MR/2 you're talking about (I think it's a safe guess :), then
you should know that in v1.61 I added some code that, AFAICT, eliminates
this problem.  Basically, I found some Netscape-originating emails with
embedded NULL characters, which caused much trouble when using C++-based
string calls.  These are now handled.  

I see you're using v1.60 now.  v1.62 is available on the MR/2 ICE web
page:

    http://nick.secant.com/mr2ice.htm

This had a few minor bug fixes above-and-beyond what you're using now,
including a little patch to accomodate a new FP10/11 problem.

Later versions are beta's, still, but there are some HUGE performance
enhancements in the current versions.

Nick
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nick Knight  <nick@secant.com>       http://nick.secant.com
Senior Software Engineer
Secant Technologies, Inc.             http://www.secant.com
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From: anton@unity.ncsu.edu                              25-Oct-99 08:01:21
  To: All                                               25-Oct-99 21:17:19
Subj: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: Anton Callaway <anton@unity.ncsu.edu>

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(I tried to get help from APC, but no reply so far.)

I am trying to use Powerchute Plus for OS/2 version 4.2.3 to perform
controlled shutdowns of my system in case of power failure, but have run
into several problems.
Setup:  APC Back-UPS Pro 650 connected via simple signalling cable,
UPSD.exe started at system startup, then Powerchute Plus manually
started.

Serious problem:  When I yank the plug from the wall, the computer stays
on without a hiccup, but a few seconds after I plug the UPS back in the
wall, power to the computer is abruptly cut- no orderly shutdown, just
poof!  The same thing happened when I used UPSmon shareware instead of
Powerchute Plus, so I think it is a problem with the UPS itself, but
please correct me if I am wrong.   Both programs report a successful
connection between the UPS and the computer, but neither seem to be able
to use it for an orderly shutdown.  Even though logging is selected, no
loss of power event is logged.

Minor problem:  No graphical display of sytem resources.  The space is
there, just no colored bar graphs.  The only exception to this is when I
start PP without first starting UPSD as recommended.  In this case,
colored graphs appear, but are meaningless since they don't change with
changing conditions.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Anton

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           26-Oct-99 03:41:00
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 05:14:19
Subj: Re: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 02:50:51, scoolboy@enteract.com wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> 
> Could  anyone point me toward  a memory management tool for OS/2 warp 4.
> 
> I have 80 meg of ram but a tech for Iomega told me that I am only using
> the base memory of 640k. If this is correct, what should I do to
> utilize  my remaining memory and enhance performance....use a memory 
> management tool?
> Thanks for  any help you  can offer.

Warp 4 does it's own memory management. 

The DOS sessions that OS/2 provide both DPMI, XMS and/or
EMS memory managers.

The Iomega tech does NOT know what he/she/it is talking
about.

Lorne Sunley


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From: scoolboy@enteract.com                             25-Oct-99 21:50:25
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 10:18:02
Subj: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: scoolboy@enteract.com

Hi Guys,

Could  anyone point me toward  a memory management tool for OS/2 warp 4.

I have 80 meg of ram but a tech for Iomega told me that I am only using
the base memory of 640k. If this is correct, what should I do to
utilize  my remaining memory and enhance performance....use a memory 
management tool?
Thanks for  any help you  can offer.

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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              26-Oct-99 13:02:06
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 16:34:06
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

Wrong.  APC provides a special (hacked) version of the IBM com.sys driver.  I
could not use this driver due to problems with InJoy and my modem.  I use the
SIO drivers with no problems.  All I had to do was add this to the
device=sio.sys line:

	(COM1:2400,3F8,IRQ4,-)  

Just subsitute any change due to different com port.  If you notice, the port
is locked at 2400 baud.  This is the required setting for my Smart-UPS 700. 
BTW, I got this info of the APC website.

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:31:30 -0700 (PDT), Lavinia wrote:

:>I don't know if this applies to you or not, but I once read that PowerChute
:>didn't like the SIO drivers, they need the com drivers that OS/2 provides. 
:>If you are using SIO drivers, you might try going back to the COM drivers
and
:>trying it.
:>

--SNIP--

		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)918-2480



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From: anton@unity.ncsu.edu                              26-Oct-99 09:07:17
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: Anton Callaway <anton@unity.ncsu.edu>

Its on COM2 and it does not have a test switch.

>

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From: heloman@my-deja.com                               26-Oct-99 18:52:27
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 20:25:02
Subj: Re: IOMEGA was: Memory management for OS/2 W4

From: heloman@my-deja.com

 > lay odds you are trying to use the IOMEGA software that came
with it.
>
> If this is the case;
> 1) throw the software away.
> 2) Install any FP9 or above.
> 3) Put BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /MP:(*,1) /V
>      in your config.sys.
> 4) Format your Zip disks FAT/HPFS as you please
>
> Brian

Brian, could you please elaborate on the switches accompanying
the OS2DASD.DMD command. According to the help file there are no
switches associated with this command. I currently use this
command with the ' /rf ' switch accompanying it. I use a
magneto-optical drive. Would your switches improve my
performance? Thanks in advance for your response.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Brian@webone.com.au                               27-Oct-99 07:48:29
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: IOMEGA was: Memory management for OS/2 W4

From: Brian@webone.com.au

In <7v4ta5$f33$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, heloman@my-deja.com writes:
> > lay odds you are trying to use the IOMEGA software that came
>with it.
>>
>> If this is the case;
>> 1) throw the software away.
>> 2) Install any FP9 or above.
>> 3) Put BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /MP:(*,1) /V
>>      in your config.sys.
>> 4) Format your Zip disks FAT/HPFS as you please
>>
>> Brian
>
>Brian, could you please elaborate on the switches accompanying
>the OS2DASD.DMD command. According to the help file there are no
>switches associated with this command. I currently use this
>command with the ' /rf ' switch accompanying it. I use a
>magneto-optical drive. Would your switches improve my
>performance? Thanks in advance for your response.

It has been a while since I installed FP9 which is where I got the info
from. I will try and find it later, but as I understand it the parameters say
that you have removable media and you want to reserve 1(in this case)
drive letter for it. I only use a ZIP disk with 1 partion. However, if you
have
something like an ORB drive and want to partion it you could reserve more
drive letters. Also if you put in a removable media which has more partions
I think OS2DASD will handle it, but I do not know what it will do to the drive
letter structure as I have never tried it.
Brian
PS /V just displays what it has done. You can replace all the /Q's in your
config to see what is happening. 

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          26-Oct-99 13:59:10
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 02:50:51, scoolboy@enteract.com wrote:

:Could  anyone point me toward  a memory management tool for OS/2 warp 4.

 OS/2 IS its own best memory manager. 

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: scoolboy@enteract.com                             26-Oct-99 18:31:27
  To: All                                               26-Oct-99 21:24:09
Subj: Re: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: scoolboy@enteract.com

scoolboy@enteract.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Could  anyone point me toward  a memory management tool for OS/2 warp 4.
> 
> I have 80 meg of ram but a tech for Iomega told me that I am only using
> the base memory of 640k. If this is correct, what should I do to
> utilize  my remaining memory and enhance performance....use a memory
> management tool?
> Thanks for  any help you  can offer.
Thank you everyone for your kind replies......my Iomega  zip drive is
nnow workinng fine and my win OS/2 session runs as well. The tech at
Iomega through me off  because of  the trap and  because I have noticed
that whennever I use multiple programs the  screen  takes soo long to 
repaint,  in  fact, remnants  of  my win/OS2 sessions stay on the screen
after I close the  win session. 

this is a minor anoyance sinnce my zip drive now works o.k.

You people are great!!!!!

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From: johnsimmo@bigpond.com                             27-Oct-99 11:05:02
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:13
Subj: Re: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: John Simmonds <johnsimmo@bigpond.com>

Something I've always wondered about but never got round to testing. I
change my bios setting between OS2 and non-OS2 above 64m (I've got 128m
crammed in) depending on whether I'm booting into NT or Warp. A pain,
but never really thought to see what happens if I leave the setting
alone, I've always assumed that in the relevent OS the extra 64m would
be ignored.
BTW, NT is run under sufference. I have a couple of programs I must run
and I can't get them up in Warp :^)
John

Anton Callaway wrote:
> 
> The Iomega guy is a moron.  I have 147 MB RAM on one machine and 96 MB on
> another, no memory managers other than the OS itself and everything is
> recognized and used seamlessly.  On some motherboards, with some BIOS's you
> will need to make sure your CMOS settings are correct to recognize above 64
> MB, but the 640 K statement is just ridiculous... Warp4 won't even load with
> only 640 KB!
>

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From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au                    27-Oct-99 03:02:00
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:14
Subj: Re: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)

John Simmonds <johnsimmo@bigpond.com> wrote:
>Something I've always wondered about but never got round to testing. I
>change my bios setting between OS2 and non-OS2 above 64m (I've got 128m
>crammed in) depending on whether I'm booting into NT or Warp. A pain,
>but never really thought to see what happens if I leave the setting
>alone, I've always assumed that in the relevent OS the extra 64m would
>be ignored.

That OS/2 option in some BIOSes is for very old versions of OS/2.  With
either Warp 3 or Warp 4 you should be able to leave it on the
non-OS2 setting.

-- 
Peter Moylan                                         peter@ee.newcastle.edu.au
See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

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From: sbo@hehe.com                                      27-Oct-99 07:04:13
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:15
Subj: IOMEGA was: Memory management for OS/2 W4

From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo)

heloman@my-deja.com wrote in a message to All:

hm> Brian, could you please elaborate on the switches accompanying the
hm> OS2DASD.DMD command.

FP10 <readme.rms>.:

_ _ _ O / _ _C_U_T_ _B_E_G_I_N_ _
      O \
        4.1.3 CONFIGURING PARTITION SUPPORT (OS2DASD)

          BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD &lbracket./LF&rbracket &lbracket./MP:(
disk,count)&
          lbracket.,(disk,count)&rbracket.&rbracket.
_ _ _ O / _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
      O \     C U T  E N D
--
Steen

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From: paul.ratcliffe@bbc.co.uk                          27-Oct-99 14:08:18
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: Paul Ratcliffe <paul.ratcliffe@bbc.co.uk>

Lavinia wrote:
> 
> I don't know if this applies to you or not, but I once read that PowerChute
> didn't like the SIO drivers, they need the com drivers that OS/2 provides.
> If you are using SIO drivers, you might try going back to the COM drivers
and
> trying it.

Whoever wrote that was writing garbage. Both PowerChute and my own APC
monitor utility talk to the UPS fine using the SIO drivers.

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From: mckinnis@attglobal.net                            27-Oct-99 07:50:04
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@attglobal.net>

I replaced my old APC Network UPS with an APC Back-UPS 650 and seem to
have the same problem.  I am using SIO2K to drive the com port.  When
the power drops, Powerchute logs it, and the system keeps running.  When
the power comes back on, Powerchute logs it, but my system goes south.

Anton Callaway wrote:
> 
> (I tried to get help from APC, but no reply so far.)
> 
> I am trying to use Powerchute Plus for OS/2 version 4.2.3 to perform
> controlled shutdowns of my system in case of power failure, but have run
> into several problems.
> Setup:  APC Back-UPS Pro 650 connected via simple signalling cable,
> UPSD.exe started at system startup, then Powerchute Plus manually
> started.
> 
> Serious problem:  When I yank the plug from the wall, the computer stays
> on without a hiccup, but a few seconds after I plug the UPS back in the
> wall, power to the computer is abruptly cut- no orderly shutdown, just
> poof!  The same thing happened when I used UPSmon shareware instead of
> Powerchute Plus, so I think it is a problem with the UPS itself, but
> please correct me if I am wrong.   Both programs report a successful
> connection between the UPS and the computer, but neither seem to be able
> to use it for an orderly shutdown.  Even though logging is selected, no
> loss of power event is logged.
> 
> Minor problem:  No graphical display of sytem resources.  The space is
> there, just no colored bar graphs.  The only exception to this is when I
> start PP without first starting UPSD as recommended.  In this case,
> colored graphs appear, but are meaningless since they don't change with
> changing conditions.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Anton

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: johnsimmo@bigpond.com                             28-Oct-99 01:13:19
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:17
Subj: Re: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: John Simmonds <johnsimmo@bigpond.com>

Peter,
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a go next time I change it back to run
NT and let you know how it goes.
John

Peter Moylan wrote:
> 
> John Simmonds <johnsimmo@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >Something I've always wondered about but never got round to testing. I
> >change my bios setting between OS2 and non-OS2 above 64m (I've got 128m
> >crammed in) depending on whether I'm booting into NT or Warp. A pain,
> >but never really thought to see what happens if I leave the setting
> >alone, I've always assumed that in the relevent OS the extra 64m would
> >be ignored.
> 
> That OS/2 option in some BIOSes is for very old versions of OS/2.  With
> either Warp 3 or Warp 4 you should be able to leave it on the
> non-OS2 setting.
> 
> --
> Peter Moylan                                        
peter@ee.newcastle.edu.au
> See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

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From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali...               27-Oct-99 23:21:13
  To: All                                               28-Oct-99 10:23:19
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net

From: "Lavinia" <MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net>

This was something I picked up about 4 yrs. ago in the news groups (like I
said "I once read...").  Perhaps modifications have been made since then to
fix the problem, or perhaps the original information I received was garbage. 
I dunno, I just passed on what I heard.  Someone else pointed out this to me,
I checked the APC site and they confirm that SIO drivers are ok.

L.

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:08:36 +0100, Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

>Lavinia wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know if this applies to you or not, but I once read that PowerChute
>> didn't like the SIO drivers, they need the com drivers that OS/2 provides.
>> If you are using SIO drivers, you might try going back to the COM drivers
and
>> trying it.
>
>Whoever wrote that was writing garbage. Both PowerChute and my own APC
>monitor utility talk to the UPS fine using the SIO drivers.



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From: aldel@ibm.net                                     29-Oct-99 03:21:20
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:18
Subj: I lost CdRom on IBM ThinkPad 755CD???

From: aldel@ibm.net

Had Win95 + OS/2 Ver3 Red on my IBM Thinkpad 755CD
with Floppy drive and IBM Cdrom working fine.
Somehow lost the cdrom and Modem trying to 
install Ver 4. (had to reinstall)
Had to reinstall Windows 3.1 because I have the disks
and os2 ver3. Managed to get the modem pcmia back 
working: but cannot get the cd-rom back.
The cd rom is an IBM teac. 
I tried atapi drivers, msdex, and a  couple others, 
No good.
Help really appreciated.
Albert.
It took me 82 years to get this dumb, ;-( 

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From: anton@unity.ncsu.edu                              28-Oct-99 12:17:07
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: Powerchute Plus for OS/2

From: Anton Callaway <anton@unity.ncsu.edu>

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Many thanks to everyone who has contributed suggestions!  I still have not
resolved
the problems, but APC did finally acknowledge my email and I have tried some
new
things that may help diagnose the problem.

1) I booted to a non-OS/2 partition and yanked the power plug.  As usual the
UPS
switched to battery.  When I replugged the cord, the power stayed on with or
without
the "serial" cable attached.
2) I found mention of a very similar problem in the documentation of the
shareware
UPSMonB from the Warped Code Cellar.  They do not mention the 650, but they
describe a
similar problem with the 400.  The "simple-signalling" cable shipped with the
UPS
itself is different than the "simple-signalling cable shipped with the
software.  I
will try the other cable tomorrow as I have a job running now that I can't
interrupt.

Any other suggestions/ comments are also welcome.

Thanks!

Anton

Mooo wrote:

> The Backups simple singalling does not use a baud rate as no data is
> transferred.  It simply signals from the TX line of the UPs to the CTS
> line on the computer com port.
>
> The graphs on Powerchute likewise are meaningless on a Backups as no
> info is collected or transmitted.
>
> As for the turning off problem.  Sounds like it might possibly be a
> UPS problem.  Perhaps the power actually is being cut off to the
> computer when its reconnected to the UPS (this is wrong).  Try
> connecting something else to the UPS and see if it also turns off when
> power is connected.  You might also try simply removing the data
> cable, then removing power and reapplying it very shortly afterwards.
> Nothing should happen (ie, your system should stay up).
>
> Cheers,
> Craig

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From: NOSPAMmarshall@attglobal.net                      28-Oct-99 22:41:10
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 11:30:19
Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2

From: "James F. Marshall" <NOSPAMmarshall@attglobal.net>

On Tue, 26 Oct 99 10:17:38 +0100, Hans K. Aspenberg wrote:

:>And, _please_ flame me for this "sales info" :-)

From where does it ship to US customers?


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From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com                           29-Oct-99 05:44:19
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:21
Subj: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace?

From: Robert Dohrenburg <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com>

Hi,

I just installed Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows in two computers.

The strange thing is that in both computers' the CPU meter show less
spikes and the spikes are shorter. Overall I feel that both computers
are more responsive in terms of screen drawings of window elements.

Is it possible that this program/utility is replacing bloated parts of
the OS? I remember OD1.X and OD2.0 did the contrary and my system lost
performance.

Can anyone can confirm this?

Robert,

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From: furd@mit.edu                                      29-Oct-99 07:58:03
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 14:46:22
Subj: Re: Memory  management for OS/2 W4

From: "Frank Field" <furd@mit.edu>

On 27 Oct 1999 03:02:00 GMT, Peter Moylan wrote:

:>
:>That OS/2 option in some BIOSes is for very old versions of OS/2.  With
:>either Warp 3 or Warp 4 you should be able to leave it on the
:>non-OS2 setting.

In my experience, this is generally true.  However, I am currently fighting
with the Gigabyte 71X board (and my 700 mhz Athlon!).  When set to the
non-OS2 setting, Warp detects only about 64 megs of the installed 256 megs;
but when I set it to the OS2 setting, then Warp only detects 16 megs!!

This seems to be true for the current crop of Athlon boards; I even have
one report that this also is a problem for NT SP5.  It is NOT a problem for
Win98.

Unfortunately, no one at AMD, Gigabyte, or IBM has deigned to respond to
my e-mails, and Award has pretty effectively insulated themselves from the
end-user.


Frank Field
furd@alum.mit.edu
O-


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From: aldel@ibm.net                                     29-Oct-99 23:40:07
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 19:49:03
Subj: I lost CdRom on IBM ThinkPad 755CD???

From: aldel@ibm.net

Had Win95 + OS/2 Ver3 Red on my IBM Thinkpad 755CD
with Floppy drive and IBM Cdrom working fine.
Somehow lost the cdrom and Modem trying to 
install Ver 4. (had to reinstall)
Had to reinstall Windows 3.1 because I have the disks
and os2 ver3. Managed to get the modem pcmia back 
working: but cannot get the cd-rom back.
The cd rom is an IBM teac. 
I tried atapi drivers, msdex, and a  couple others, 
No good.
Help really appreciated.
Albert.
It took me 82 years to get this dumb, ;-( 

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From: donm@ftel.net                                     29-Oct-99 23:48:17
  To: All                                               29-Oct-99 21:24:01
Subj: Re: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace?

From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse)

In message <7vcqn7$j2j$2@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> - jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca
(John Hong) writes:
:>
:>Robert Dohrenburg (rdohrenburg@hotmail.com) wrote:
:>
:>: Is it possible that this program/utility is replacing bloated parts of
:>: the OS? I remember OD1.X and OD2.0 did the contrary and my system lost
:>: performance.
:>
:>	I don't think it does, I didn't see anything getting copied into 
:>the X:\OS2\*.* directories when I tried it out...
:>
:>

actually, there is a smartwin.dll that gets copied to the
X:\OS2\DLL directory.

I don't know if this could account for the performance gained



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