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From: mark.molyneux@virgin.net                          14-Oct-99 01:14:17
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: "Mark" <mark.molyneux@virgin.net>

Check your drive space - you'll find you ran out of room...

Shift your SWAPPER.DAT onto a different drive in CONFIG.SYS as a starter -
then cut down on the files held on C:

Mark
mark.molyneux@virgin.net

F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote in message
<3806ce8c$1$s.q.nyvax$mr2ice@news.nl.net>...
>Suddenly today I got this message:
>
>=================
>Disk Error
>
>The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
>be written to disk. The updates are
>being held to automatically retry the
>operation, but will be lost if the
>system is shutdown before correcting
>the problem.
>=================
>
>What is this? How can I correct this? Is it bad to shutdown before
>resolving the problem? What will happen then???
>
>I tried CheckIni (Henk Kelder's) but with no results.
>There is still 323MB of free space on the C:-drive. My OS2SYS.INI is
>now 580kB and OS2.INI is 1.4MB after using CheckIni (which I normally
>do every 2 weeks).
>
>
>Frits
>
>--
>----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
>           there is no truth or reality
>       but only aspects and interpretations
>-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
>  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.66
>


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From: dink@dont.spam.me                                 15-Oct-99 20:34:08
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me>

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:00:51 -0400, Brad BARCLAY wrote:

:	99% of the time this error is displayed because you are running out of
:disk space on the drive containing the INI file in question, and there
:is insufficient space to write the data safely to disk.
:
:	Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a smaller
:size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during the normal
:timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up again, move
:either your swapper to a different drive (if it isn't on a different
:drive/partition already), remove unused files/applications, or move your
:INI files to a different drive/partition with lots of available free
:space.

I had the same problem, I havn't seen this error on YEARS..
I get the error (sometimes its for C:\OS2\OS2.INI, others its
OS2SYS.INI).  Tons of free space, 70some megs of free ram,
Warp4 fixpak12..  It seems to happen after a few days of
uptime. It kinda seems to me like a bug in fixpak12 itself.. <g>

- dink ( http://dink.org )



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From: mbruffey@netcarrier.com                           15-Oct-99 20:44:00
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Comm461--message sent; waiting for reply . . . and waiting . . . and   

From: "L. Mark Bruffey" <mbruffey@netcarrier.com>

Hi!

After sending email I recv the above message which does not clear.  What
is wrong?

Thanks,

Mark


-- 

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**********************************************
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From: mikus@bga.com                                     15-Oct-99 20:39:29
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Netscape CPU Load

From: mikus@bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs)

This is with Netscape 4.04+FP (I've de-installed 4.61 GA).

I was dragging entries around on the bookmarks page, with audio
playing in the background.  When I happened to be slower than
usual with drag-n-drop, the audio started "stuttering".  That
is a sure-fire sign that a foreground task is hogging the CPU,
and not letting my audio software refresh its buffers.

(The only usual time I experience audio "stuttering" is if I do
a 'dir' on a directory containing many hundreds of files.)

Is OS/2 drag-n-drop SUPPOSED to take that much processing while
the RMB is held down, or does Netscape substitute its own (more
intrusive) drag-n-drop ?  Does 4.61 exhibit the same behavior ?

mikus  (warp4+fp12, tcpip 4.02w, java118-0910)

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From: see_URL_in.sig@end.to_mail_to.us                  16-Oct-99 04:37:23
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: see_URL_in.sig@end.to_mail_to.us (R L Samuell)

I  have a  five  year-old  PC which  has been  running Warp  3  without
fixpacks  for  much  of  that  time.   I  have  been  bothered  by  the
aforementioned problem  only in the last couple of years.  At the  same
time, I seem  to be  losing  more files to disk errors, too.  I usually
have plenty of disk space on the partition  when  the problem occurs so
insufficient space is not the cause.  I  have concluded  that the cause
is simply what the error message says--  a disk error.

Shutting down and rebooting usually  cures the condition.  But  when it
does not,  it  is  a  major  headache--   on one  occasion,  I  had  to
re-install OS/2.

Regards,


R L Samuell
--
       Web: http://samuell.lex.bluegrass.net/
     Email: http://samuell.lex.bluegrass.net/mailto
   ObQuote: "'Tolerance'-- a euphemism for 'moral indifference.'" -rl3s
 Copyright: (c) 1999 R L Samuell, All Rights Reserved.


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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           16-Oct-99 13:41:13
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 10:34:11
Subj: OS2*.INI constantly updated after FP12 

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <qvaxqbagfcnzzr.fjo6x40.pminews@ftl.msen.com>, on 10/15/99 
   at 08:34 PM, "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me> said:

>:	Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a smaller
>:size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during the normal
>:timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up again, move
>:either your swapper to a different drive (if it isn't on a different
>:drive/partition already), remove unused files/applications, or move your
>:INI files to a different drive/partition with lots of available free
>:space.

>I had the same problem, I havn't seen this error on YEARS.. I get the
>error (sometimes its for C:\OS2\OS2.INI, others its OS2SYS.INI).  Tons
>of free space, 70some megs of free ram, Warp4 fixpak12..  It seems to
>happen after a few days of uptime. It kinda seems to me like a bug in
>fixpak12 itself.. <g>

I haven't seen this particular kind of error message on my Warp 4 FP12
machine (yet? :), but I am experiencing another INI-related oddity of
FP12. Now after I installed FP12, OS/2 seems to insist on updating
OS2*.INI files every 30 secs! This machine was suffering from this bug
(feature?) for years, you may search dejanews for treads on this topic.
However, before FP12 it was doing this once in every 3-5 min, which was
annoying but I kinda got used to live with it. Now it starts doing it
every 30 sec and that's really ridiculous! INI files updates are done in
cache write-through mode (e.g. always writing directly to disk) and WPS
is totally locked during this process, which takes about 6-10 sec each
time. What the hell is doing this to me???

I've read that IBM programmers have changed something called PMDF layer
(in kernel) of FP12 to the level compatible with WSeb kernel, which has
something to do with system error tracing. I do not use any of the Warp
fancy dump/trace/debug utilities, how to disable this darn thing?!! I
tried remming out anything that looks suspisious in my CONFIG.SYS but
that does not help. I am really stuck and thinking of reinstalling my
Warp partition from scratch, but this one is on my main production
server and it will take a lot of work and lots of inconvinience for my
clients and users...

If anybody at IBM is reading this - please, oh please help me! Scott?!!
Irv?!!

Cheers,
Ivan

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From: michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at                     16-Oct-99 19:16:11
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: Michael Warmuth <michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at>

> > In message <ogfvnruiay.fjiwnq0.pminews@martin> - "Martin Bartelds"
> > <bts@iaehv.nl>Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:04:38 +0200 (CDT) writes:
> > :>
> > :>A lot of sites do contain animations. Loading such a site
> > :>with Netscape 4.61 gives a 100% CPU load and a stalled
> > :>Netscape.
> > :>
> > :>Giving a "Stop animations" solves this problem, however
> > :>the page loading also stops.
[...]

The problem are not the animations. You can get this behaviour on 
complex pages without animated GIFs.


Here is a description of the problem:

When downloading a page with NS 4.04 or 4.61 all of a sudden CPU 
utilization goes to 100%. The CPU meter and the watch in WarpCenter 
stop. Netscape itself responds to user interaction absolutely normal 
(e.g. opening a menu or the preferences dialog) and the process 
indicator of NS works smoothly. In most cases, opening the preferences 
dialog and keeping it open until the pages is completely loaded brings 
down the CPU utilization to normal values. If you switch to another 
applications while this problem occurs there is a high chance that the 
system stalls completely with the need to reboot.

This problem is very similar to the '100% CPU load while calculating 
complex tables' problem. The big difference is, that the latter is not 
a real bug - there is no system stability problem. While the table is 
rendered NS's interface is not very responsive (e.g. the status 
information stops and jumps a lot), and after completing the table the 
system reverts to a normal state.


The environment:

Only under special circumstances the problem occurs. This is the 
reason why many people (and IBM) don't seem to be able to reproduce 
this. First you need a complex page. Then your system has to be 
configured like this:

+ You use a proxy on the same machine (like WBI).

+ You have a DNS running on the same computer (like BIND).

+ You use a 32bit TCP/IP stack (e.g. TCP/IP 4.1 or MPTS WR8610 or 
WR8620).

I am not quite sure if all of the above is required to run into the 
problem. Nor do I know if this happens if you use another proxy (like 
SQUID) or another nameserver.


The solution:

If you use a local proxy there is a high chance that you have turned 
off the file cache within NS since this would be a second time caching 
beside what the proxy does. Most likely you have turned on the memory 
cache of NS so that pages visited in a session will be redisplayed 
faster (e.g. when using the back button). To cure the problem you now 
should do this:

TURN OFF NETSCAPE'S MEMORY CACHE!!! (set it to 0)

The drawback is, that animations will only run once. Configuring the 
file cache, so that it holds some amount of data (e.g. 1 to 2 MB) will 
bring back the animations.


I hope this clarifies the situation and solves a problem some of you 
encountered.

Greetings
Michael

-- 
Michael Warmuth                   Austria  - The place in the 
http://www.os2forum.or.at/        heart of Europe where no 
http://www.osiconsult.co.at/      kangaroos are hopping around





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From: j.welton@mailcity.com                             16-Oct-99 16:59:15
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: Ns4.61 & Empty Trash Problem

From: j.welton@mailcity.com

This has just started for me.  It happened in the Preview version of NS
4.61 too.  When I go to empty my trash folder the entire NS4.61 program
closes up with a program error.  When I get it back open I find a temp
folder has been created.  It is a duplicate of my incoming messages.
When I try to delete it NS closes up again and I get a third temporary
folder.

I UNinstalled NS4.61, rebooted, reinstalled and rebooted hoping that
would solve the problem but it hasn't.

Is anyone else having this problem and has anyone else found a way to
correct it?

Jeff


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From: andy@schiller.big.ac.at                           16-Oct-99 19:56:14
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: Re: Netscape CPU Load

From: andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at>


Mikus Grinbergs schrieb:

> This is with Netscape 4.04+FP (I've de-installed 4.61 GA).
>
> I was dragging entries around on the bookmarks page, with audio
> playing in the background.  When I happened to be slower than
> usual with drag-n-drop, the audio started "stuttering".  That
> is a sure-fire sign that a foreground task is hogging the CPU,
> and not letting my audio software refresh its buffers.
>
> (The only usual time I experience audio "stuttering" is if I do
> a 'dir' on a directory containing many hundreds of files.)
>
> Is OS/2 drag-n-drop SUPPOSED to take that much processing while
> the RMB is held down, or does Netscape substitute its own (more
> intrusive) drag-n-drop ?  Does 4.61 exhibit the same behavior ?

Yes. The reason for this behavior is that most users (me included) have
enabled the option to allow higher priority for  drive access. you can
easily deactivate it if you have  xfolder installed (OS/2 Kernel section
scheduler).
This means that any access (here drag 'n' drop) causes a possible
multitasking problem.

> mikus  (warp4+fp12, tcpip 4.02w, java118-0910)

greetings
            Andreas

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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            16-Oct-99 22:22:19
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <slrn80h7bh.98.blackdeath@blackdeath.pr1.on.wave.home.com>, on
10/16/1999 
   at 03:42 PM, blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger) said:

>>What is this? How can I correct this? Is it bad to shutdown before
>>resolving the problem? What will happen then???

>Are you using the GRADD drivers? I am, and every time I open a
>full-screen DOS window I get a similar error (although with the
>OS2.INI file).

>Warp 4, FP12, GRADD 0.80, S3 Virge 4MB Vid card, over 120 MeB's free
>on my OS/2 boot/system drive (C:).

Yes, I'm using Gradd 0.80 for Trio S3 since a few days........ but I
didn't open a....... well, I see, I HAD some problems with a WINOS2
app and reinstalled it using a fullscreen WINOS2 session. Yes, it WAS
the OS2.INI file.

Over 300MB free on the boor-drive.


Frits

-- 
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.66

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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            16-Oct-99 22:15:16
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <380787F3.2EED7819@ca.ibm.com>, on 10/15/1999 
   at 04:00 PM, Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> said:

>> >>> =================
>> >>> Disk Error
>> >>>
>> >>> The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
>> >>> be written to disk. The updates are
>> >>> being held to automatically retry the
>> >>> operation, but will be lost if the
>> >>> system is shutdown before correcting
>> >>> the problem.
>> >>> =================

>	99% of the time this error is displayed because you are running out
>of disk space on the drive containing the INI file in question, and
>there is insufficient space to write the data safely to disk.

Are you SURE 320MB of free space on the drive isn't enough for the
OS2.INI (which is normally about 0.1% of this??????

>	Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a
>smaller size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during
>the normal timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up

My SWAPPER of 290MB is not supposed to grow.....


Frits

-- 
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.66

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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         16-Oct-99 21:27:19
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:22:38 +0200, F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
>>Warp 4, FP12, GRADD 0.80, S3 Virge 4MB Vid card, over 120 MeB's free
>>on my OS/2 boot/system drive (C:).
>
>Yes, I'm using Gradd 0.80 for Trio S3 since a few days........ but I
>didn't open a....... well, I see, I HAD some problems with a WINOS2
>app and reinstalled it using a fullscreen WINOS2 session. Yes, it WAS
>the OS2.INI file.

Yoink!

We've found the problem. GRADD's DOS support sucks for S3 cards.

My educated guess;

GRADD sucks up 100% of system resources when in full-screen DOS mode (which
is basicaly what Win-OS/2 is), thereby not allowing OS/2 to write its files.

When I get the error, I have to immediately switch back to the WPS and click
"OK", else if I wait, the error box will remain frozen on the screen and I
am forced to shut down to get rid of it.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: rlwalsh@packet.net                                16-Oct-99 21:10:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: Netscape CPU Load

From: rlwalsh@packet.net (Rich Walsh)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:56:28, andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at> wrote:
> Mikus Grinbergs schrieb:
> 
> > This is with Netscape 4.04+FP (I've de-installed 4.61 GA).
> >
> > I was dragging entries around on the bookmarks page, with audio
> > playing in the background.  When I happened to be slower than
> > usual with drag-n-drop, the audio started "stuttering".  That
> > is a sure-fire sign that a foreground task is hogging the CPU,
> > and not letting my audio software refresh its buffers.
> >
> > (The only usual time I experience audio "stuttering" is if I do
> > a 'dir' on a directory containing many hundreds of files.)
> >
> > Is OS/2 drag-n-drop SUPPOSED to take that much processing while
> > the RMB is held down, or does Netscape substitute its own (more
> > intrusive) drag-n-drop ?  Does 4.61 exhibit the same behavior ?
> 
> Yes. The reason for this behavior is that most users (me included) have
> enabled the option to allow higher priority for  drive access. you can
> easily deactivate it if you have  xfolder installed (OS/2 Kernel section
> scheduler).
> This means that any access (here drag 'n' drop) causes a possible
> multitasking problem.

I'm afraid you're mistaken, Andy.  This 100% CPU usage is yet another
Communicator ...uh... "anomaly".  Conventional OS/2 d&d, as implemented
by, e.g. the WPS or DragText, puts *no* load on the CPU when the mouse
is held stationary.  In contrast, Netscape v4.x's d&d causes 100%
usage on my system the moment I begin a drag, regardless of whether I
move the mouse or hold it still.  While v4.x's d&d is better integrated
with the WPS than any other ported app's, it is nonetheless wholly
proprietary and chews up CPU cycles while seemingly doing nothing for
reasons that only the IBM/NS team could explain.  "PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES"
should have nothing to do with this since there is no disk access until
the object is dropped.

Normally, you can't identify CPU usage while a conventional drag is in
progress because standard d&d suspends all window updates.  After you
drop or cancel the drag, your CPU meter's graph should update and give
you some indication of CPU load.  Unless you have a particularly
underpowered system (e.g. a 486/33), usage should never hit 100%.

You *can* monitor CPU usage during conventional d&d on a real-time
basis if you have ProNews v1.5b or if you have both DragText and an
app written in VXRexx or VisProRexx.  In both cases, we reenabled
window updates to work around a particularly nasty bug in (surprise!)
NS v2.02.

According to OD's CPU meter, my system has a 2% load when it is idle
(Cyrix PR233MMX, 64mb).  If I drag from ProNews' article list to the
Desktop and then keep the mouse constantly moving over an empty area,
usage climbs to about 19%.  Rapidly moving the mouse over various
objects and DragText-enabled windows causes usage to range from 30-55%.
OTOH, when I hold the mouse steady, it drops back to 2%.

What can I say (while being nice about it)?  Netscape v4.x still has
some unresolved flaws...


   == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
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From: rlwalsh@packet.net                                16-Oct-99 22:24:00
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:02
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: rlwalsh@packet.net (Rich Walsh)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael Warmuth <michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at>
wrote:
> > > In message <ogfvnruiay.fjiwnq0.pminews@martin> - "Martin Bartelds"
> > > <bts@iaehv.nl>Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:04:38 +0200 (CDT) writes:
> > > :>
> > > :>A lot of sites do contain animations. Loading such a site
> > > :>with Netscape 4.61 gives a 100% CPU load and a stalled
> > > :>Netscape.
> > > :>
> > > :>Giving a "Stop animations" solves this problem, however
> > > :>the page loading also stops.
> [...]
> 
> The problem are not the animations. You can get this behaviour on 
> complex pages without animated GIFs.
> 
> Here is a description of the problem:
> 
> When downloading a page with NS 4.04 or 4.61 all of a sudden CPU 
> utilization goes to 100%. The CPU meter and the watch in WarpCenter 
> stop. Netscape itself responds to user interaction absolutely normal 
> (e.g. opening a menu or the preferences dialog) and the process 
> indicator of NS works smoothly.
> 
[extraneous factors snipped]
> 
> The solution:
> If you use a local proxy there is a high chance that you have turned 
> off the file cache within NS since this would be a second time caching 
> beside what the proxy does. Most likely you have turned on the memory 
> cache of NS so that pages visited in a session will be redisplayed 
> faster (e.g. when using the back button). To cure the problem you now 
> should do this:
> 
> TURN OFF NETSCAPE'S MEMORY CACHE!!! (set it to 0)

By George, he's got it!!! (or pretty close).  I did a bunch of testing
that seems to confirm that the problem lies in the interaction between
the disk and memory caches.  If you have a memory cache but no disk cache,
you'll get 100% CPU usage.  Setting memory cache to zero _or_ reenabling
a nominal disk cache solves the problem.

The other factors that Michael mentioned (which I snipped, i.e. a 32-bit
stack, a DNS running on your system) appear not to be relevant.  Use of
a proxy is only relevant to the extent that its use is what would prompt
you to set disk caching to zero.

FWIW, I wanted to retain my 2mb memory cache, so I set the disk cache
at 64kb.  When I had it at 1kb, there was nonstop disk activity as
NS kept filling and emptying it.  You'll probably want to set yours
to the size of a typical web page.

Thanks, Michael!


   == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
___________________________________________________________________

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   16-Oct-99 16:27:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:02
Subj: Re: Netscape CPU Load

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>


Rich Walsh wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:56:28, andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at> wrote:
> > Mikus Grinbergs schrieb:
> >
> > > This is with Netscape 4.04+FP (I've de-installed 4.61 GA).
> > >
> > > I was dragging entries around on the bookmarks page, with audio
> > > playing in the background.  When I happened to be slower than
> > > usual with drag-n-drop, the audio started "stuttering".  That
> > > is a sure-fire sign that a foreground task is hogging the CPU,
> > > and not letting my audio software refresh its buffers.
> > >
> > > (The only usual time I experience audio "stuttering" is if I do
> > > a 'dir' on a directory containing many hundreds of files.)
> > >
> > > Is OS/2 drag-n-drop SUPPOSED to take that much processing while
> > > the RMB is held down, or does Netscape substitute its own (more
> > > intrusive) drag-n-drop ?  Does 4.61 exhibit the same behavior ?
> >
> > Yes. The reason for this behavior is that most users (me included) have
> > enabled the option to allow higher priority for  drive access. you can
> > easily deactivate it if you have  xfolder installed (OS/2 Kernel section
> > scheduler).
> > This means that any access (here drag 'n' drop) causes a possible
> > multitasking problem.
> 
> I'm afraid you're mistaken, Andy.  This 100% CPU usage is yet another
> Communicator ...uh... "anomaly".  Conventional OS/2 d&d, as implemented
> by, e.g. the WPS or DragText, puts *no* load on the CPU when the mouse
> is held stationary.  In contrast, Netscape v4.x's d&d causes 100%
> usage on my system the moment I begin a drag, regardless of whether I
> move the mouse or hold it still.  While v4.x's d&d is better integrated
> with the WPS than any other ported app's, it is nonetheless wholly
> proprietary and chews up CPU cycles while seemingly doing nothing for
> reasons that only the IBM/NS team could explain.  "PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES"
> should have nothing to do with this since there is no disk access until
> the object is dropped.
> 
> Normally, you can't identify CPU usage while a conventional drag is in
> progress because standard d&d suspends all window updates.  After you
> drop or cancel the drag, your CPU meter's graph should update and give
> you some indication of CPU load.  Unless you have a particularly
> underpowered system (e.g. a 486/33), usage should never hit 100%.
> 
> You *can* monitor CPU usage during conventional d&d on a real-time
> basis if you have ProNews v1.5b or if you have both DragText and an
> app written in VXRexx or VisProRexx.  In both cases, we reenabled
> window updates to work around a particularly nasty bug in (surprise!)
> NS v2.02.
> 
> According to OD's CPU meter, my system has a 2% load when it is idle
> (Cyrix PR233MMX, 64mb).  If I drag from ProNews' article list to the
> Desktop and then keep the mouse constantly moving over an empty area,
> usage climbs to about 19%.  Rapidly moving the mouse over various
> objects and DragText-enabled windows causes usage to range from 30-55%.
> OTOH, when I hold the mouse steady, it drops back to 2%.
> 
> What can I say (while being nice about it)?  Netscape v4.x still has
> some unresolved flaws...

All serial mice will cause CPU load to climb significantly when moved
rapidly. They generate a lot of interrupts. A bus mouse would solve
this.

> 
>    == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
> ___________________________________________________________________
> 
>                 |             - DragText v3.1 -
> Rich Walsh      |  A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement
> Ft Myers, FL    |  New!  Pickup & Drop for text, and more...
>                 |  http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/
> ___________________________________________________________________

-- 

**********************
DigiGraph Technical
http://www.dgraph.com
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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               17-Oct-99 00:38:13
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:02
Subj: Re: Ns4.61 & Empty Trash Problem

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

j.welton@mailcity.com schrieb:
> 
> This has just started for me.  It happened in the Preview version of NS
> 4.61 too.  When I go to empty my trash folder the entire NS4.61 program
> closes up with a program error.  When I get it back open I find a temp
> folder has been created.  It is a duplicate of my incoming messages.
> When I try to delete it NS closes up again and I get a third temporary
> folder.
> 
> I UNinstalled NS4.61, rebooted, reinstalled and rebooted hoping that
> would solve the problem but it hasn't.
> 
> Is anyone else having this problem and has anyone else found a way to
> correct it?

Same problem here and no cure for it. It happens every now and then, but
usually I can do the following: delete the new temporary folder via the
message center and then select empty trash. Netscape may crash on
deleting the folder, but after emptying the trash again all should be
ok.
Well, there are definitely some awful problems that I've come across
using Comm 4.61. If this happens more often then I'll switch back to
4.04 w/ FP#1.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: blakjak@ibm.net                                   17-Oct-99 00:13:29
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:02
Subj: hung up, but good

From: Jason Albertson <blakjak@ibm.net>

OS2 system began to hang after almost completely booting to the Shell.
This is Warp 4 with latest fixpacks. System would get through all the
drivers and hang with blackscreen and clock.

I had the mouse and could bring up the ctrl-escape PM shell manager to
switch windows, but no windows to switch to! 

Eventually I got the message that the machine couldn't find a desktop in
the os2 ini file. Oh heck I figgered, i'll go use makeini and rebuild.
Except the ini.rc file just plain aint there to rebuild from--double
whammy.

I'd like, of course, to get me ol desktop back, but if I can't, well, so
be it. Per some "help" from ibm's website, I find the .rc file is
bundled on the install disk, and maybe I can get it from there. Unpack? 

Using the archive versions just screws them up as well I think.
Now I'm running on a "temporary desktop".

Any information on editing, creating, and restoring (even if I gotta do
it manually, in an editor) would be well appreciated. This has been
rather frustrating, day lost etc.

PS. IBM is no longer offering ANY support to non-corporate contracts.
They do not do credit card support anymore. Effective as of the October
13th, they said.

Anyone wants to e-mail me on this one: blakjak@ibm.net

And thanks to anyone who takes the time out....

Jason Albertson

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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 17-Oct-99 01:11:29
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:02
Subj: Re: Netscape CPU Load

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Rich Walsh wrote:
>
> I'm afraid you're mistaken, Andy.  This 100% CPU usage is yet another
> Communicator ...uh... "anomaly".  Conventional OS/2 d&d, as implemented
> by, e.g. the WPS or DragText, puts *no* load on the CPU when the mouse
> is held stationary.  In contrast, Netscape v4.x's d&d causes 100%
> usage on my system the moment I begin a drag, regardless of whether I
> move the mouse or hold it still.  While v4.x's d&d is better integrated
> with the WPS than any other ported app's, it is nonetheless wholly
> proprietary and chews up CPU cycles while seemingly doing nothing for
> reasons that only the IBM/NS team could explain.  "PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES"
> should have nothing to do with this since there is no disk access until
> the object is dropped.
> 
> Normally, you can't identify CPU usage while a conventional drag is in
> progress because standard d&d suspends all window updates.  After you
> drop or cancel the drag, your CPU meter's graph should update and give
> you some indication of CPU load.  Unless you have a particularly
> underpowered system (e.g. a 486/33), usage should never hit 100%.
> 
> You *can* monitor CPU usage during conventional d&d on a real-time
> basis if you have ProNews v1.5b or if you have both DragText and an
> app written in VXRexx or VisProRexx.  In both cases, we reenabled
> window updates to work around a particularly nasty bug in (surprise!)
> NS v2.02.
> 
> According to OD's CPU meter, my system has a 2% load when it is idle
> (Cyrix PR233MMX, 64mb).  If I drag from ProNews' article list to the
> Desktop and then keep the mouse constantly moving over an empty area,
> usage climbs to about 19%.  Rapidly moving the mouse over various
> objects and DragText-enabled windows causes usage to range from 30-55%.
> OTOH, when I hold the mouse steady, it drops back to 2%.
> 
> What can I say (while being nice about it)?  Netscape v4.x still has
> some unresolved flaws...

I suspect it is because NC/2 4.61 does not use SOM (WPS
integration) for drag-and-drop!
It got its own algotihm for it! (2.02 did use the authorized WPS
way)!

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: robin_v@nospam.bigpond.com                        17-Oct-99 00:00:23
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:02
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: robin <robin_v@nospam.bigpond.com>

F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net writes:
> Suddenly today I got this message:
> 
> =================
> Disk Error
> 
> The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
> be written to disk. The updates are
> being held to automatically retry the
> operation, but will be lost if the
> system is shutdown before correcting
> the problem.
> =================
> 
> What is this? How can I correct this? Is it bad to shutdown before
> resolving the problem? What will happen then???

Your system has zero disc space.

The message will heep being displayed until you free up some
space on your main disc.

You can do this from the OS prompt 

If you don't have another hard disc, temporarily
move a non-system file of about 100K to a floppy.

Then, it would be a good idea to shut down to see
whether that will clear up some temporary files etc.

Then copy back the floppy disc.

> Frits

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From: hpholm@post1.tele.dk                              17-Oct-99 00:53:09
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:11
Subj: Re: hung up, but good

From: hpholm@post1.tele.dk (Hans Peter Holm)

Jason Albertson wrote:

> OS2 system began to hang after almost completely booting to the Shell.
> This is Warp 4 with latest fixpacks. System would get through all the
> drivers and hang with blackscreen and clock.

The following is from two posts back in 1997. Both suggestions 
worked for me in a similar situation. - Watch out for the name 
of the desktop, if you're using a non-english version of Warp:


If you haven't tried it already, adding the line 
SET DESKTOP=[drive]:\DESKTOP to config.sys might help.

And after bootup. try this little script :
change "x" for your boot drive
************************************************************
/* Re-assign object id to desktop */
   call rxFuncAdd "SysLoadFuncs", "REXXUTIL", "SysLoadFuncs"
   call SysLoadFuncs

call syssetobjectdata "x:\desktop" , "objectid=<WP_DESKTOP>";

************************************************************

after that, you can remove "set desktop=..."

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From: ddudley@intcomm.net                               16-Oct-99 20:53:29
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:11
Subj: TCP/IP Java Configuration Trap

From: David Dudley <ddudley@intcomm.net>

Know I've posted this one before, but don't remember where????

When I try to start the Java Configuration program to configure TCP/IP,
either
on my local machine, or remotely, I get the following error on the
machine.
_____________________________________________________________
java.lang.NullPointerException
        at
COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.common.ConfigData.loadFromOOCS(ConfigData.java:387)


        at
COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.common.ConfigData.<init>(ConfigData.java:156)

        at
COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.common.NotebookProfile.loadDataForLocalClient(Noteb
ookProfile.java:115)

        at
COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.common.ClientProxy.talkToNetwork(ClientProxy.java:1
76)

        at
COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.client.Notebook.createDataObjects(Notebook.java:302
)

        at
COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.client.Notebook.<init>(Notebook.java:263)
        at
COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.client.Tcpcfg2.showNotebook(Tcpcfg2.java:513)

        at
COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.client.Tcpcfg2.init(Tcpcfg2.java:236)
        at
COM.ibm.raleigh.tcp.tcpcfg2.client.Tcpcfg2c.main(Tcpcfg2c.java:137)
_____________________________________________________________

Nice thing, this Java.  Now you can produce code with errors in it, and
blame it on someone else.

If anyone has some information regarding what this error is (IBM???
anyone ??? ), I'd appreciate the help

Thanks-


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From: rlwalsh@packet.net                                17-Oct-99 02:14:15
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: Re: Netscape CPU Load

From: rlwalsh@packet.net (Rich Walsh)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:27:20, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> wrote:
> Rich Walsh wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:56:28, andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at> wrote:
> > > Mikus Grinbergs schrieb:
[snip]
> > > > Is OS/2 drag-n-drop SUPPOSED to take that much processing while
> > > > the RMB is held down, or does Netscape substitute its own (more
> > > > intrusive) drag-n-drop ?  Does 4.61 exhibit the same behavior ?
> > >
> > > Yes. The reason for this behavior is that most users (me included) have
> > > enabled the option to allow higher priority for  drive access. you can
> > > easily deactivate it if you have  xfolder installed (OS/2 Kernel section
> > > scheduler).
> > > This means that any access (here drag 'n' drop) causes a possible
> > > multitasking problem.
> > 
> > I'm afraid you're mistaken, Andy.  This 100% CPU usage is yet another
> > Communicator ...uh... "anomaly".  Conventional OS/2 d&d, as implemented
> > by, e.g. the WPS or DragText, puts *no* load on the CPU when the mouse
> > is held stationary.  In contrast, Netscape v4.x's d&d causes 100%
> > usage on my system the moment I begin a drag, regardless of whether I
> > move the mouse or hold it still.
[snip]
> > According to OD's CPU meter, my system has a 2% load when it is idle
> > (Cyrix PR233MMX, 64mb).  If I drag from ProNews' article list to the
> > Desktop and then keep the mouse constantly moving over an empty area,
> > usage climbs to about 19%.  Rapidly moving the mouse over various
> > objects and DragText-enabled windows causes usage to range from 30-55%.
> > OTOH, when I hold the mouse steady, it drops back to 2%.
> > 
> > What can I say (while being nice about it)?  Netscape v4.x still has
> > some unresolved flaws...
> 
> All serial mice will cause CPU load to climb significantly when moved
> rapidly. They generate a lot of interrupts. A bus mouse would solve
> this.

Well, I *do* have a bus mouse, so I can't say how much extra load a
serial mouse causes.  Still, I can't believe it's all that much.
When I rapidly move the pointer over an empty section of the Desktop
with no buttons pressed, CPU usage climbs to 8%.  I tend to believe
that most of the extra load comes from the large number of mouse-move
messages posted to the window below the pointer.  In this instance,
the window doesn't have to do a lot of processing.

OTOH, during d&d, each mouse-move message triggers a subsequent dragover
message, which prompts the window to perform far more extensive processing.
Dragging over multiple windows increases the load considerably as each one
sets and clears its "target emphasis" (the solid line box around the window
or icon).  As always, manipulating the display eats up considerable
resources.

All this demonstrates that conventional OS/2 d&d puts a dynamic load
on the CPU:  the more activity, the heavier the load.  OTOH, NS v4.x's
load is static:  100% usage at all times.  That clearly isn't right.


   == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
___________________________________________________________________

                |             - DragText v3.1 -
Rich Walsh      |  A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement
Ft Myers, FL    |  New!  Pickup & Drop for text, and more...
                |  http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/
___________________________________________________________________

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From: rlwalsh@packet.net                                17-Oct-99 02:44:05
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: Re: Netscape CPU Load

From: rlwalsh@packet.net (Rich Walsh)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:11:58, Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk> wrote:
> Rich Walsh wrote:
[el snipola]
> > What can I say (while being nice about it)?  Netscape v4.x still has
> > some unresolved flaws...
> 
> I suspect it is because NC/2 4.61 does not use SOM (WPS
> integration) for drag-and-drop!
> It got its own algotihm for it! (2.02 did use the authorized WPS
> way)!

If the truth be known, standard OS/2 d&d has absolutely *NOTHING*
to do with SOM or the WPS.  Instead, it is a facility provided by
Presentation Manager, OS/2's windowing manager.  If you have PM
start a windowed command line intead of the WPS, you can then load
any d&d-enabled app and it will still be fully d&d-enabled, despite
the lack of SOM/WPS.  Similarly, if you load DragText, every
supported window in every app you start thereafter will provide
d&d text.  Have a d&d-enabled file manager running and you'll
regain the ability to create a file by dragging text from a window
and dropping it on the file manager (chances are the file manager
won't handle DT's naming system as nicely as the WPS).  In fact,
even URL handling will remain intact.  IOW, the WPS doesn't
provide half the features that many people attribute to it.


   == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
___________________________________________________________________

                |             - DragText v3.1 -
Rich Walsh      |  A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement
Ft Myers, FL    |  New!  Pickup & Drop for text, and more...
                |  http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/
___________________________________________________________________

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From: pfitz@ican.net                                    17-Oct-99 09:06:08
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 10:24:05
Subj: Re: OS2*.INI constantly updated after FP12 

From: Peter Fitzsimons <pfitz@ican.net>

Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

This all stems from some moron at ibm opening the *.ini file in "no
cache" mode, then proceeding to write no more than 32k at a time to the
file (and your os2.ini can be quite large).  Each write causes a
complete HPFS flush to occur.  To top it all off, it's not really
writing os2.ini, but "os2.!!!", so a powerfailure during the write
(which is the only reason I can think of why this person decided to make
this "no cache" change) would be moot, since when you rebooted os/2
would not use "os2.!!!".

This change occured in Warp 2.1 fixpak 2 or 3 (or so).  It pissed me off
so much I did something about it.  Later I wrote an article about it for
one of the online OS/2 magazine (i forget which). Here's that text.  If
anyone wants the code, email me.  This is for advanced users only.

skip ahead to "Why newcalls.dll?"

[--- cut ----]
Jan 22, 1997

What is NEWCALLS.DLL?
=====================
This is an example of how to redirect (or "hook") a function in a dll
that you don't have the code for.  My example hooks DosOpen() for
PMMERGE.DLL.  It works under Warp 3.0 or Warp 4.0 [ed: and wseb]


How it Works
============
The exe header of PMMERGE.DLL is changed so that all refernces to
DOSCALLS.DLL go to NEWCALLS.DLL instead (IBM's compiler supplies a
utility called DLLRNAME to do this).

NEWCALLS.DLL contains a forwarder entry (to DOSCALLS.DLL) for every
function exept Dos32Open().  The forwarder entries are created, by the
linker (FWDSTAMP.EXE is NOT needed),  because the *.def file both
IMPORTS and EXPORTS all of the function names (except Dos32Open).

Since many of the ordinals are not referenced by name (and are not
documented),  I forward them with a manufactured names. Example:

   _undoc4=DOSCALLS.4

Since the real doscalls.dll does not export a name for ordinal 4, it
should not make any difference what it is called.  The important thing
is that an oridinal of 4 does exist,  in case pmmerge.dll uses it (it
will use it by ordinal number, not by name).  This may seem
untrustworthy, but you have to keep in mind we are redirecting DOSCALLS
only for one specific piece of code (pmmerge.dll);  and if we get it
wrong it will fail to load.

Additionally,  newfwd.def IMPORTS the real Dos32Open,  for its own use,
by ordinal (273), and calls it _Dos32Open().  _Dos32Open() is a private
name,  only seen by newcalls.dll.

        _DOS32OPEN =DOSCALLS.273


Newcalls.c only has to contain code for one function, Dos32Open().  All
other functions are automatticaly redirected,  at load time,  to the
real doscalls.dll;  thus there is NO runtime performance impact,  only a
slight (probably immeasurable) loadtime impact.


Why NEWCALLS.DLL?
=================
Whenever anything changes on your WPS (which can happen simply by
referencing an object),  changes are made to OS2.INI and/or OS2SYS.INI.
Every so often (2 mins or so) these changes are written to disk.  Since
OS/2 2.1,  *.ini files are kept completely in (swappable) memory,  and
are rewritten, in their entirety,  whenever updates are required (this
means the system will have to swap out memory equal to the size of your
*.ini files,  swap in the memory where the *.ini file data is,  write
them out, etc...this design sucks;  I liked the way os/2 1.1 through 2.0
did it better).

To further complicate things,  the *.ini file data is written out in
chunks of 32k or less.  My os2*.ini files are 1.2mb;  that means about
40 DosWrite's.

The code for PrfOpenProfile() is in pmmerge.dll. PrfOpenProfile() calls
DosOpen with the "OPEN_FLAGS_WRITE_THROUGH" bit on.  This causes each
DosWrite() to the *.INI files to completely update all disk structures
before it returns (this is VERY slow on HPFS).

It takes a good 15-20 seconds to write my *.ini files out (and this
happens every few mins).  Not only do I have an annoyingly loud
harddisk,  but the performance of my PC will sometimes crawl while the
update is taking place (a priority boost is giving to threads blocked on
disk i/o).

My replacement DosOpen() masks off the OPEN_FLAGS_WRITE_THROUGH bit,  so
that all operations to the *.ini files are cached.  Now my *.ini file
updates are next to instant (a second or so),  and a lot quieter;  file
system structures are only updated once,  instead of after each
DosWrite().

I'm sure someone at IBM thought they were being "safe" by using
write-through mode.  I disagree.  The *.ini files are actually written
as "os2.!!!" and "os2sys.!!!",  then renamed to os2*.ini after they are
on the disk.  A power failure will only cause a problem if it occurs
when the *.!!! files are renamed (regardless if you're using
newcalls.dll or not).  A power failure while the ini file data is being
written to disk will cause the system to use the older *.ini files
already present.  It actually makes more sense to write the data out as
fast as you can,  to get ahead of the power failure.


How to use NEWCALLS.DLL
=======================

 1) Compile/link newcalls.c using IBM's compiler (the IBM linker is key;
    it creates the forwarder entries from the *.def file).  Simply:

    icc /Gn /O /Fenewcalls.dll newcalls.c newfwd.def os2386.lib

 2) Backup your original pmmerge.dll.   Run:

       \ibmcpp\bin\dllrname pmmerge.dll doscalls=NewCalls /q

    (You can't use the pmmerge.dll that is active;  copy it somewhere
     else, modify the copy, boot to the command line,  copy new dll to
     \os2\dll).

    This command will change all references to DOSCALLS to NEWCALLS.DLL.
    This only affects pmmerge.dll.  It does not directly affect any
    programs that use pmmerge.dll.  Furthermore,  only DosOpen
    (Dos32Open actually) has replacement code -- all other entry points
    are forwarded to the real doscalls.  There is ZERO runtime
    performance impact on forwarded calls (there is a slight LOAD time
    impact,  as the loader does its stuff).



Peter Fitzsimmons,
President,
A:WARE Inc (OS/2 Contracting)

Voice:  905 858 3222

Internet: pfitzsim@home.com

Copyright (C) 1997, A:WARE Inc.

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From: rsteenw@xs4all.nl                                 17-Oct-99 14:29:27
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: Netscape CPU Load

From: rsteenw@xs4all.nl (Mostly Harmless)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:27:20, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> wrote:

}> What can I say (while being nice about it)?  Netscape v4.x still has
}> some unresolved flaws...
} 
}All serial mice will cause CPU load to climb significantly when moved
}rapidly. They generate a lot of interrupts. A bus mouse would solve
}this.

And bus mice don't? Yeah, right. They communicate to the system by 
telepathy.

Besides, can you point me at any manufacturer still building bus mice?

-- 
// Rik Steenwinkel (Mostly Harmless)
// Enschede, Netherlands

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From: rsteenw@xs4all.nl                                 17-Oct-99 15:03:28
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: serial vs bus mouse 

From: rsteenw@xs4all.nl (Mostly Harmless)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:59:13, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> wrote:

}John Thompson wrote:
}> 
}> In <3808FBC8.54F5810D@dgraph.com>, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> writes:
}> 
}> >All serial mice will cause CPU load to climb significantly when moved
}> >rapidly. They generate a lot of interrupts. A bus mouse would solve
}> >this.
}> 
}> I haven't heard this before.  How do bus mice signal events if
}> not through raising interrupts?  I'm not doubting you, but just
}> puzzled at how they differ.  ANd how 'bout mice like my Logitech
}> 3-button "First Mouse" that simply seem to just a connection
}> adaptor to convert between serial and bus use?
}
}With a bus mouse the CPU can be IRq-ed at regular intervals (30-60 times
}a second) rather than when information is available thus the load is
}more or less constant where a serial or PS/2 mouse will interrupt the
}CPU for every tick (higher resolution = more interrupts). On a bus mose
}the processing is done on the bus card.
}
}That is what I remember.

Time to tweak your refresh rate. 

A serial mouse sends data to the system at 2400 baud, some even at 
1200. That's 240 interrupts per second, maximum. A bus mouse has no 
logic in the mouse itself, rather sending the two pairs of signals 
from the movement sensors directly to the interface. The interface 
figures out if the mouse is moving up or down, left or right, based on
the phase difference within one pair of signals. Obviously, the same 
logic is present in a serial mouse, only the output method is 
different. With a bus mouse *ANY* movement can and likely will result 
in an interrupt, with rates well over 240/s quite possible. With a 
serial mouse, the baud rate automatically limits the interrupt rate. 
And anyway, I've never had a mouse, bus or serial, crank CPU usage up 
high, by movement alone.

The resolution doesn't enter into it until after the mouse movement 
information is received by the mouse driver.

-- 
// Rik Steenwinkel (Mostly Harmless)
// Enschede, Netherlands

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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            17-Oct-99 17:53:07
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <3808EDAD.F3E1AC60@rtd.com>, on 10/16/1999 
   at 09:27 PM, James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> said:

>    290 MB for a swapper file seems rather excessive. I have been
>using 64 MB on a few systems (each with 128 MB RAM) and have *never*
>seen the swapper file grow beyond that.

It's long time ago that I have experimented and found this a fine
solution. Normally I'd say twice your internal memory (for me 2*128MB
= 256MB). As far as I can remember this wasn't enough running both the
ICQ-java-beta and some java-based chatbox at a time (under Nestscape/2
4.04 I guess). Maybe it's time for a new experiment because a lot of
things (fp s, NC/2) changed.....


Frits

-- 
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.66

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              17-Oct-99 17:29:06
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
>
> [ ... ] 
> As far as I can remember this wasn't enough running both the
> ICQ-java-beta and some java-based chatbox at a time (under Nestscape/2
> 4.04 I guess). Maybe it's time for a new experiment because a lot of
> things (fp s, NC/2) changed.....
> 
     Actually, there is indeed a time when the swapper grew beyond 64
MB. I have Navigator's disk cache set to 0 and the memory cache to
99,999; this forces Nav to use RAM and the system swapper for caching.
When I download anything that exceeds available RAM, it goes into the
swap file. A couple of times I was downloading enormous files (60 - 100
MB, *not* using a dial-up!) and the swap file was used to handle the
overflow.
    Other than that I cannot think of a time when I could have used a
larger swap file.
    Although it does seem to be true that Java programs really eat up
RAM....


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: mel_in_ohio@my-deja.com                           17-Oct-99 17:41:01
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: Another NS 4.61 SYS3175

From: mel_in_ohio@my-deja.com


> >  I am also experiencing errors using Netscape
4.61. Both
> > SYS3175's and SYS3171's. At this point I can't
remember exactly
> > what the sequence of events were but just normal
browsing
> > without any other known Netscape functions being
open.
> >
> > Mel
> >
>
> If you are using an S3 based video card (which is a
guess
> based on the name of the DLL with the error), the
version of
> the driver you are using may have a bug. If there
is a later
> version try updating your system with that version,
or if the
> GRADD S3 driver will work with your card, try that
one.
>
> Lorne Sunley
>
  Thanks for the tip. Did find a later ver. of the
driver for the built-in S3 video adapter in my IBM
PC350, on IBM's web site. Installed it and the new
driver doesn't give the option (like the old one did)
of picking a couple of the high-end options like
1024x768 with millions of colors. That makes sense as
the amount of available video memory is only 2 meg
and it probably was crashing because I had it set to
one of the options not now available.
  Reconfiged it and it appears to work fine, only
time will tell.

Thanks again!
Mel


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: uh45@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de                          17-Oct-99 19:56:29
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: TRAP 000e

From: uh45@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

Hi Scott and hi folks!

Yes, I AM interested in solving this problem, but I had to wait for another
TRAP to
write down the registers....
Well, 5 minutes before, it happened again, and here is the TRAP-Report:

--------- CUT --------
TRAP 000e   ERRCD=0002 ERACC=**** ARLIN=********
EAX=00000046 EBX=00000006 ECX=ffffffff EDX=fff13f0c
ESI=00005a38 EDI=9b852ddc EBP=00004e08 FLG=00012206
CS:EIP=0168:fff9bf1a CSACC=c09b CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0030:00004dac SSACC=1097 SSLIM=0000416b
DS=0160 DSACC=c093 DSLIM=ffffffff CR0=8001001b
ES=0160 ESACC=c093 ESLIM=ffffffff CR2=fff0bcdc
FS=0000 FSACC=**** FSLIM=********
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********

Internal Error at ##0168:fff53784-000e:784
60000,9084

06860651
Internal revision 9.031,98/05/04
The system was halted....
-------- CUT -------

I Can'T imagine how someone can use this information, but if you could, I
would
be VERY glad! :-)
The trap happens, when I download a large file or when the system ist extremly 

in use.
I use Warp4 (German) with FP6.
When I tried to modify a large (40 Mb, not too large, OS/2 should manage
this...) Wav-File
With the OS/2-Wave-Editor, the system trapped the first time, I never have had 
a
TRAP 000e before... :-?

I tried to use the OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI created at installation of Warp, but 
it did'nt 
help! :-(

Maybe you can help!!

Thanxx for that!!

Cu!

Andi

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From: baden@interchange.ubc.ca                          17-Oct-99 20:06:18
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Re: hung up, but good

From: baden@interchange.ubc.ca    (Baden Kudrenecky)

   I am guessing that your INI file(s) have disappeared.  I have
no idea how your "ini.rc" file has also disappeared, but it is
custom built for your configuration, and without it, a reinstall
is necessary.  Possibly a "Selective Install" will rebuild it.

   For recovering a viable INI files, you should be able to find
them in your "OS2\archive" directory.  I regularly save my INI
files, as they are crucial to the system configuration.  If the
old INIs still do not work, you may have to make sure you have a
"Desktop" folder, but any further success with out an INI.RC
file is questionable

baden

In <38094D06.64B0@ibm.net>, Jason Albertson <blakjak@ibm.net> writes:
>OS2 system began to hang after almost completely booting to the Shell.
>This is Warp 4 with latest fixpacks. System would get through all the
>drivers and hang with blackscreen and clock.
>
>I had the mouse and could bring up the ctrl-escape PM shell manager to
>switch windows, but no windows to switch to! 
>
>Eventually I got the message that the machine couldn't find a desktop in
>the os2 ini file. Oh heck I figgered, i'll go use makeini and rebuild.
>Except the ini.rc file just plain aint there to rebuild from--double
>whammy.
>
>I'd like, of course, to get me ol desktop back, but if I can't, well, so
>be it. Per some "help" from ibm's website, I find the .rc file is
>bundled on the install disk, and maybe I can get it from there. Unpack? 
>
>Using the archive versions just screws them up as well I think.
>Now I'm running on a "temporary desktop".
>
>Any information on editing, creating, and restoring (even if I gotta do
>it manually, in an editor) would be well appreciated. This has been
>rather frustrating, day lost etc.
>
>PS. IBM is no longer offering ANY support to non-corporate contracts.
>They do not do credit card support anymore. Effective as of the October
>13th, they said.
>
>Anyone wants to e-mail me on this one: blakjak@ibm.net
>
>And thanks to anyone who takes the time out....
>
>Jason Albertson

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From: uh45@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de                          17-Oct-99 20:12:20
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:07
Subj: TRAP 000e

From: uh45@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

Hi!

It's me again, because I forgot something.
According to my earlier message:
I forgot to say, that I also installed the new matrox G400, 16 Mb, single
head.
When booting, I get the message "SPD not found on SDRAM 1".

I asked in other newsgroups, but they said, I don't really have to worry
about this. :-?

With my old Cirrus Logic Card, I din't get this BIOS-Error-message when
booting!

Could THIS be the prob for TRAP 000e???

Thanxx for your answers!

Cu!

Andi

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                17-Oct-99 16:26:24
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:07
Subj: Re: TRAP 000e

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On 17 Oct 1999 19:56:59 GMT, uh45@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de wrote:

>Hi Scott and hi folks!
>
>Yes, I AM interested in solving this problem, but I had to wait for another
TRAP to
>write down the registers....
>Well, 5 minutes before, it happened again, and here is the TRAP-Report:
>
>--------- CUT --------
>TRAP 000e   ERRCD=0002 ERACC=**** ARLIN=********
>EAX=00000046 EBX=00000006 ECX=ffffffff EDX=fff13f0c
>ESI=00005a38 EDI=9b852ddc EBP=00004e08 FLG=00012206
>CS:EIP=0168:fff9bf1a CSACC=c09b CSLIM=ffffffff
>SS:ESP=0030:00004dac SSACC=1097 SSLIM=0000416b
>DS=0160 DSACC=c093 DSLIM=ffffffff CR0=8001001b
>ES=0160 ESACC=c093 ESLIM=ffffffff CR2=fff0bcdc
>FS=0000 FSACC=**** FSLIM=********
>GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********
>
>Internal Error at ##0168:fff53784-000e:784
>60000,9084
>
>06860651
>Internal revision 9.031,98/05/04
>The system was halted....
>-------- CUT -------
>
>I Can'T imagine how someone can use this information, but if you could, I
would
>be VERY glad! :-)
>The trap happens, when I download a large file or when the system ist
extremly 
>in use.
>I use Warp4 (German) with FP6.
>When I tried to modify a large (40 Mb, not too large, OS/2 should manage
this...) Wav-File
>With the OS/2-Wave-Editor, the system trapped the first time, I never have
had a
>TRAP 000e before... :-?
>
>I tried to use the OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI created at installation of Warp,
but it did'nt 
>help! :-(
>
>Maybe you can help!!
>
>Thanxx for that!!

It might be a sign that the boot drive is failing.  I once had a WD drive
go bad on me in a way that defied detection - no reported bad sectors, no
strange noises.  The only indication of a problem was that data read off
the drive would be incorrect.  Archives would extract successfully one
moment, then have CRC errors the next.  As you can imagine, if OS/2 gets
bad data off the drive from some key file, an IPE isn't far behind.  I had
quite a few before I nixed the drive, and put OS/2 on another (it was
under warranty).



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   17-Oct-99 06:59:06
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: serial vs bus mouse 

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>


John Thompson wrote:
> 
> In <3808FBC8.54F5810D@dgraph.com>, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> writes:
> 
> >All serial mice will cause CPU load to climb significantly when moved
> >rapidly. They generate a lot of interrupts. A bus mouse would solve
> >this.
> 
> I haven't heard this before.  How do bus mice signal events if
> not through raising interrupts?  I'm not doubting you, but just
> puzzled at how they differ.  ANd how 'bout mice like my Logitech
> 3-button "First Mouse" that simply seem to just a connection
> adaptor to convert between serial and bus use?
> 

With a bus mouse the CPU can be IRq-ed at regular intervals (30-60 times
a second) rather than when information is available thus the load is
more or less constant where a serial or PS/2 mouse will interrupt the
CPU for every tick (higher resolution = more interrupts). On a bus mose
the processing is done on the bus card.

That is what I remember.

> -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

-- 

**********************
DigiGraph Technical
http://www.dgraph.com
**********************

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From: stephen@turboweb.splat.spam.net.au                17-Oct-99 20:11:24
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: stephen@turboweb.splat.spam.net.au (stephen)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael Warmuth 
<michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:

> TURN OFF NETSCAPE'S MEMORY CACHE!!! (set it to 0)
>  

Finally someone else has confirmed for me what I have posted on a 
couple of occasions as seeming to work for me! I have been wondering 
if it was just coincidental in some weird way, or if setting memory 
cache to zero did the trick, but nobody ever responded to my comment 
(or I missed the response).

Regards,

Stephen

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From: stephen@turboweb.splat.spam.net.au                17-Oct-99 20:11:24
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: Ns4.61 & Empty Trash Problem

From: stephen@turboweb.splat.spam.net.au (stephen)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:59:31, j.welton@mailcity.com wrote:

> Is anyone else having this problem and has anyone else found a way to
> correct it?
>  

I simply close Ns4.61 then go to the subdirectory where the Ns4.61 
mail files are held, ie
x:\netscape\[profilename]\mail
and simply delete the files "trash" and "trash.snm".

When I then restart Ns4.61 these two files are recreated, but without 
all the trash in them.

Slight fiddle, but it has been working OK for me.

Regards,

Stephen

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      17-Oct-99 00:56:00
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: serial vs bus mouse 

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <3808FBC8.54F5810D@dgraph.com>, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> writes:

>All serial mice will cause CPU load to climb significantly when moved
>rapidly. They generate a lot of interrupts. A bus mouse would solve
>this.

I haven't heard this before.  How do bus mice signal events if 
not through raising interrupts?  I'm not doubting you, but just 
puzzled at how they differ.  ANd how 'bout mice like my Logitech 
3-button "First Mouse" that simply seem to just a connection 
adaptor to convert between serial and bus use?

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: jr_fox@earthlink.net                              17-Oct-99 16:06:21
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:21
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net>

Rich Walsh wrote:

> FWIW, I wanted to retain my 2mb memory cache, so I set the disk cache
> at 64kb.  When I had it at 1kb, there was nonstop disk activity as
> NS kept filling and emptying it.  You'll probably want to set yours
> to the size of a typical web page.

_______________________________________________________________

What if you have a large amount of memory, and wanted to mini-
mize the amount of transitory junk written to your H/D ?  If
there was a way to have most of that stuff cached in RAM, and
not written to disk at all, that would interest me (for some,
maybe most sessions).  I've only been using 4.61 for a few 
weeks now.  There used to be problems in earlier versions when
your disk cache got too large, esp. FAT.DB and the History 
file.  So far, I'm carrying over the settings I used in 2.02 -- 
7.5M Memory Cache, 2.5M Disk cache.  This may not be such a 
great idea, for reasons I'm not aware of yet, but it seems to
be working.

Haven't noted the freezes yet mentioned in the original post,
due to complex web pages, but it may just be too early yet
in my usage of 4.61.

<jf>

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    17-Oct-99 19:59:22
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: no audio from cdplayer

From: nemo@union.edu

Greetings!

I just discovered that my music cd-player isn't working in Warp, FP10. It
works when booted to Win95 when I can't get a sound out of it when booted
to OS/2. I do have system sounds and can play wav's, midi's, etc.

Just need a fast tip where to look for trouble-shooting. Couldn't find
anything on deja.com.

I sent this message to comp.os.os2.misc and have gotten a couple of
helpful replies. One was to reinstall Multimedia which I may end up doing,
but I'm hoping for another solution before that. (I should install FP12
anyway, I guess.) It occurred to me today that the cdplayer _used_ to work
a couple of weeks ago. I can't think of what I may have done to change the
system since I've been very conservative (that is, no time for 'playing').

F.


-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: dink@dont.spam.me                                 17-Oct-99 21:07:26
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Re: TRAP 000e

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me>

On 17 Oct 1999 20:12:41 GMT, uh45@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de wrote:

:Hi!
:
:It's me again, because I forgot something.
:According to my earlier message:
:I forgot to say, that I also installed the new matrox G400, 16 Mb, single
head.
:When booting, I get the message "SPD not found on SDRAM 1".

I used to get traps all the time when I had a bad DIMM, if you're
running at 100mhz bus with a DIMM w/o SPD eeprom, then its probably
not capable of running at 100mhz.  Try running the system at 66mhz
bus - if the traps clear up, then replace the DIMM.

- dink ( http://dink.org )




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From: bd83h@bedford.waii.com                            18-Oct-99 10:22:17
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 10:22:24
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: Steve Drewell <bd83h@bedford.waii.com>

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, J. R. Fox wrote:

î What if you have a large amount of memory, and wanted to mini-
î mize the amount of transitory junk written to your H/D ?  If
î there was a way to have most of that stuff cached in RAM, and
î not written to disk at all, that would interest me (for some,
î maybe most sessions).

How about setting up a RAM disk and setting your Netscape disk cache to
point to the virtual disk? The only drawback to that, as far as I know, is
that you permanently 'lose' the memory used for the virtual disk (correct 
me if I'm wrong....I've never actually set one up myself!).

Cheers,
Steve

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From: nospam2me@nospam.com                              18-Oct-99 13:56:11
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Re: hung up, but good

From: Rob Burton <nospam2me@nospam.com>

Do you know of any difficulties between Object Desktop 2 and WPTool
(checkini)? In one of the early sections, there are class related
objections reported and if I let them "correct" I lose some OD 2
function(s): "Create new", for example, becomes a regular, normal,
plain folder...Once (I haven't been able to duplicate this), I believe
all my Object Desktop folder items became "neutered". Thanks for any
comment....

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:43:05 +0200, Henk kelder
<nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl> sent:

>Jason Albertson wrote:
>> 
>> OS2 system began to hang after almost completely booting to the Shell.
>> This is Warp 4 with latest fixpacks. System would get through all the
>> drivers and hang with blackscreen and clock.
>> 
>> I had the mouse and could bring up the ctrl-escape PM shell manager to
>> switch windows, but no windows to switch to!
>> 
>Have you tried running CHECKINI (from your temp desktop?)
>
>Checkini is part of WPTOOLxx.ZIP.
>
>http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/
>
>Henk
>
>> Eventually I got the message that the machine couldn't find a desktop in
>> the os2 ini file. Oh heck I figgered, i'll go use makeini and rebuild.
>> Except the ini.rc file just plain aint there to rebuild from--double
>> whammy.
>> 
>> I'd like, of course, to get me ol desktop back, but if I can't, well, so
>> be it. Per some "help" from ibm's website, I find the .rc file is
>> bundled on the install disk, and maybe I can get it from there. Unpack?
>> 
>> Using the archive versions just screws them up as well I think.
>> Now I'm running on a "temporary desktop".
>> 
>> Any information on editing, creating, and restoring (even if I gotta do
>> it manually, in an editor) would be well appreciated. This has been
>> rather frustrating, day lost etc.
>> 
>> PS. IBM is no longer offering ANY support to non-corporate contracts.
>> They do not do credit card support anymore. Effective as of the October
>> 13th, they said.
>> 
>> Anyone wants to e-mail me on this one: blakjak@ibm.net
>> 
>> And thanks to anyone who takes the time out....
>> 
>> Jason Albertson

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From: nospam2me@nospam.com                              18-Oct-99 14:00:06
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Win-OS/2 & Cuecards in Warp 3 vs 4

From: Rob Burton <nospam2me@nospam.com>

Two systems here, each identical. One Warp 3, one Warp 4, each latest
fixpack level. Cuecard-based "Examples and Demos" work great in Warp
4, crash with "out of memory" errors in Warp 3.

Anyone else seen this?

Anyone have any knowledge of any possible differences between Warp 3
and 4 for Win-OS/2? (I had come to think they were identical).

Regards,

RHB

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     18-Oct-99 07:32:01
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: Re: Ns4.61 & Empty Trash Problem

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

j.welton@mailcity.com wrote:

> This has just started for me.  It happened in the Preview version of NS
> 4.61 too.  When I go to empty my trash folder the entire NS4.61 program
> closes up with a program error.  When I get it back open I find a temp
> folder has been created.  It is a duplicate of my incoming messages.
> When I try to delete it NS closes up again and I get a third temporary
> folder.

There is a known problem with deleting/renaming folders
in Messenger.  The fix will be distributed whenever a fixpack
for 4.61 is released.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl                       18-Oct-99 09:43:02
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: Re: hung up, but good

From: Henk kelder <nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl>

Jason Albertson wrote:
> 
> OS2 system began to hang after almost completely booting to the Shell.
> This is Warp 4 with latest fixpacks. System would get through all the
> drivers and hang with blackscreen and clock.
> 
> I had the mouse and could bring up the ctrl-escape PM shell manager to
> switch windows, but no windows to switch to!
> 
Have you tried running CHECKINI (from your temp desktop?)

Checkini is part of WPTOOLxx.ZIP.

http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/

Henk

> Eventually I got the message that the machine couldn't find a desktop in
> the os2 ini file. Oh heck I figgered, i'll go use makeini and rebuild.
> Except the ini.rc file just plain aint there to rebuild from--double
> whammy.
> 
> I'd like, of course, to get me ol desktop back, but if I can't, well, so
> be it. Per some "help" from ibm's website, I find the .rc file is
> bundled on the install disk, and maybe I can get it from there. Unpack?
> 
> Using the archive versions just screws them up as well I think.
> Now I'm running on a "temporary desktop".
> 
> Any information on editing, creating, and restoring (even if I gotta do
> it manually, in an editor) would be well appreciated. This has been
> rather frustrating, day lost etc.
> 
> PS. IBM is no longer offering ANY support to non-corporate contracts.
> They do not do credit card support anymore. Effective as of the October
> 13th, they said.
> 
> Anyone wants to e-mail me on this one: blakjak@ibm.net
> 
> And thanks to anyone who takes the time out....
> 
> Jason Albertson

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From: goffena@raleigh.ibm.com                           18-Oct-99 10:36:17
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: FixPack 12 and Netscape

From: "Jim Goffena" <goffena@raleigh.ibm.com>

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:45:02 GMT, jsjones@selectric.net wrote:

Well I can't explain it fully but it now works.  I figured before I broke
down and reloaded, I would just go nuts w/ updates.  I was previously 
running ip4.1 and associated mpts.  So i pulled out the aurora cds and loaded
the lanrequester fixpak and the mpts update (ip4.2.1 wouldn't load due to FI
problem but oh well) and the dang thing works again.

I might still reload, but now i don't have to

regards,

Jim


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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             18-Oct-99 10:15:14
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: TRAP 000e

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

For some reason we were unable to access your drive for a paging operation.
So far, this particular trap has always turned out to be a hardware problem
of some sort. I am, however, willing to believe otherwise. You may want to
pursue your BIOS messages, etc., first. Also, perhaps mess with your ibm1s506
settings. If you want to pursue this is a software issue, apply fixpack 12
(which substantially changes the affected area of code from fp7, which you're
now running) and get the latest IDEDASD package.


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From: heloman@my-deja.com                               18-Oct-99 17:38:08
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: heloman@my-deja.com

 _______________________________________________________________
>
> What if you have a large amount of memory, and wanted to mini-
> mize the amount of transitory junk written to your H/D ?  If
> there was a way to have most of that stuff cached in RAM, and
> not written to disk at all, that would interest me (for some,
> maybe most sessions).   <snip>

This is how I am currently running my system. I downloaded the
virtual ram program ramfs64.zip (Hobbes should have it) and
installed it as my drive Z. Go into Netscape - Edit -
Preferences - Advanced - Cache and in the window there tell it
that the drive to use for "disk cache folder"  Z:\cache. From
then on every time you start Netscape it will automatically go
to the virtual drive and use it instead of the hd. Works great
here.  Hope this helps and good luck......


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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               18-Oct-99 12:22:10
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

James Moe wrote:
>      Actually, there is indeed a time when the swapper grew beyond 64
> MB. I have Navigator's disk cache set to 0 and the memory cache to
> 99,999; this forces Nav to use RAM and the system swapper for caching.
> When I download anything that exceeds available RAM, it goes into the
> swap file. A couple of times I was downloading enormous files (60 - 100
> MB, *not* using a dial-up!) and the swap file was used to handle the
> overflow.
>     Other than that I cannot think of a time when I could have used a
> larger swap file.
>     Although it does seem to be true that Java programs really eat up
> RAM....

	Java programs can be very memory hungry, especially if the developer
hasn't attempted to do intelligent memory management.  Still, looking at
running Java processes using Theseus 3, it seems like sometimes it's the
runtime environment that is chewing up a lot of extra memory I've seen
Java proceses chew up over 20Mb of memory, only to go down to .5Mb
later).

	On my box here I'm running with 128Mb of RAM, and my SWAPPER is
currently about 110Mb in size.  Admittedly, this machine is running a
LAN Server, Lotus Notes, Communicator v4.61, jSyncManager, Norton
AntiVirus and a few other programs constantly (ie: 24*7), and doesn't go
through a reboot very often.  Thankfully the drive is fast enough and I
have enough RAM that a swap file of this size doesn't impact my
performence much, but it's still quite a big bigger than 64Mb :).

Brad BARCLAY

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               18-Oct-99 11:53:23
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
> >       99% of the time this error is displayed because you are running out
> >of disk space on the drive containing the INI file in question, and
> >there is insufficient space to write the data safely to disk.
> 
> Are you SURE 320MB of free space on the drive isn't enough for the
> OS2.INI (which is normally about 0.1% of this??????

	I didn't know you had 320Mb of free space on your drive, now did I? :)

	Either way, if your SWAPPER manages to grow to take up most of this
space, then no, it may not be enough.
 
> >       Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a
> >smaller size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during
> >the normal timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up
> 
> My SWAPPER of 290MB is not supposed to grow.....

	Unless you've specified this in your CONFIG.SYS:

		MEMMAN=NOSWAP

	...then the OS is allowed to "grow" the size of the swap file anytime
it wants.  It's true that with that sort of size it probably shouldn't,
but it all depends on what you're running and how much memory your tasks
are committing to the swapper.

	And to re-iterate, my suggestion was prefixed with the disclaimer that
frespace is the problem "99% of the time".  You may be in that 1% where
the problem is something else (have you tried running a CHKDSK /F:2 on
the partition recently?).

Brad BARCLAY

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     18-Oct-99 19:54:17
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael Warmuth 
<michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:

> + You use a proxy on the same machine (like WBI).
>  
> + You have a DNS running on the same computer (like BIND).
>  
> + You use a 32bit TCP/IP stack (e.g. TCP/IP 4.1 or MPTS WR8610 or 
> WR8620).
>  
> I am not quite sure if all of the above is required to run into the 
> problem. Nor do I know if this happens if you use another proxy (like 
> SQUID) or another nameserver.
> 

I use SmartCache, which is a proxie caching program (JAVA), I do not 
have a DNS running on my machine, and I am using the TCP/IP that comes
with warp4, updated to the WR8424 level, and the PEER fix at IP8412. I
do have the problem of going to 100% on some web pages. I had thought 
about turning off the memory cache, but have never got around to 
trying it. Now, I am going to try it.

Thanks...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     18-Oct-99 19:54:18
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 10:11:48, stephen@turboweb.splat.spam.net.au 
(stephen) wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael Warmuth 
> <michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:
> 
> > TURN OFF NETSCAPE'S MEMORY CACHE!!! (set it to 0)
> >  
> 
> Finally someone else has confirmed for me what I have posted on a 
> couple of occasions as seeming to work for me! I have been wondering 
> if it was just coincidental in some weird way, or if setting memory 
> cache to zero did the trick, but nobody ever responded to my comment 
> (or I missed the response).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephen

Hmmm. Never saw your comments (probably because I tend to skip past a 
lot of these posts, especially after they get to be more than about 6 
deep). Sometimes, it is worth starting a new thread, if you come up 
with some new information.
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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            18-Oct-99 21:45:11
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <380B428A.FFD6EF07@ca.ibm.com>, on 10/18/1999 
   at 11:53 AM, Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> said:

>> Are you SURE 320MB of free space on the drive isn't enough for the
>> OS2.INI (which is normally about 0.1% of this??????

>	I didn't know you had 320Mb of free space on your drive, now did I?
>:)

Sorry, though I didn't mention it in my very first message I did so
several times in later ones.

>> My SWAPPER of 290MB is not supposed to grow.....

>	Unless you've specified this in your CONFIG.SYS:

>		MEMMAN=NOSWAP

But of course I have not......, but the default MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT.

>	...then the OS is allowed to "grow" the size of the swap file
>anytime it wants.  It's true that with that sort of size it probably
>shouldn't, but it all depends on what you're running and how much
>memory your tasks are committing to the swapper.

>	And to re-iterate, my suggestion was prefixed with the disclaimer
>that frespace is the problem "99% of the time".  You may be in that
>1% where the problem is something else (have you tried running a
>CHKDSK /F:2 on the partition recently?).

No, maybe I should do so when I'm backing up and cleaning up every 2
weeks or so...

Did you see someone pointing in the direction of GRADFD + S3 Trio +
fullscreen DOS sessions? Though he was the only one to do so, it is a
fact that this all applies to me in this case. I'm running OS/2 since
2.1 and have many more or less serious problems over time, but never
this one..... Who knows he is right.


Frits

-- 
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.66

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      18-Oct-99 22:08:24
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: no audio from cdplayer

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <380a6302$1$qnivfs$mr2ice@news.logical.net>,
  nemo@union.edu wrote:

> I just discovered that my music cd-player isn't working in Warp,
> FP10. It works when booted to Win95 when I can't get a sound out of
> it when booted to OS/2. I do have system sounds and can play wav's,
> midi's, etc.
>
> Just need a fast tip where to look for trouble-shooting. Couldn't
> find anything on deja.com.

Have you checked the CD player volume? (ie: click on the little
"speaker" and make sure it's turned up.)

Have you tried using the Digital Transfer mode?

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               18-Oct-99 17:37:23
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
> >       I didn't know you had 320Mb of free space on your drive, now did I?
> >:)
> 
> Sorry, though I didn't mention it in my very first message I did so
> several times in later ones.

	Sorry about that - I must have missed them :P.
 
> No, maybe I should do so when I'm backing up and cleaning up every 2
> weeks or so...

	It's probably a good idea.  My only other thought is that there are
some problems wiht the filesystem structure itself in places causing the
system to think that it's running low on space, or otherwise
encountering an error wihle attempting to commit sectors.  A good CHKDSK
would clean such poblems up (again, this is just a suggestion/guess :).
 
> Did you see someone pointing in the direction of GRADFD + S3 Trio +
> fullscreen DOS sessions? Though he was the only one to do so, it is a
> fact that this all applies to me in this case. I'm running OS/2 since
> 2.1 and have many more or less serious problems over time, but never
> this one..... Who knows he is right.

	I did notice that.  It might be worth your while investigating by
backing out of the GRADD drivers in question and seeing if it makes a
difference.  I run GRADD drivers at home (SciTech Preview 7 on an ATI
RagePro AGP 8Mb), and haven't seen this problem at all, but there could
be a bug in the S3 drivers that is causing somehting weird to occur :P.

Brad BARCLAY

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From: roenigk@ibm.net                                   18-Oct-99 18:17:17
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: John Roenigk <roenigk@ibm.net>

Ivan,

Same problem here. I began noticing this  after having done some
installations from the WarpUp diskette. At first I thought it was Netscape
and/or Java 1.1.8. After having read a number of these posts, though, it
appeared to be the Fixpak 12. (We have M64GRADD Driver Version 1.00,
Component ID 562107701, Current CSD level: XR03010, Prior CSD level: XR02100
for ATI Mach 64/RageII). Well, I backed out of Fixpak 12 down to 6 (which
has worked brilliantly for us for some time). I also backed out the Device
Driver Fixpak. The problem still persists, however. I've found no solution
offered here in these newsgroups or in Compuserve. I'm really surprised that
the noise about this problem seems to have died back a bit as well. If
anyone has had success ridding their machine(s) of this nuisance, I do hope
they will reply to a message in this thread. Otherwise, it looks like I'm
headed for a fresh reinstall, then Fixpak 6... I don't think the hard drive
can withstand this going on much longer.

John Roenigk, Austin, Texas


Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

> Anyone else noticed this? After applying FP12 to my Warp 4 machine I am
> getting very strange sounds from my HDD. At the very end of boot
> sequence, just after the screen is cleared from drivers' boot messages
> and before the blue PM color appears - my hard disk now makes a long
> harsh ar-r-r-r sound like its heads are trying to go past the disk
> surface :-). The sound lasts for 5-6 sec, boot then proceeds normally
> and everything works fine, but I'm really scared to reboot my machine
> now, I am not sure how long my HDD will survive this kind of "surface
> testing". Needless to say, I've run checkdisk and GTU disk checker
> several times with no errors of any kind reported.
>
> The system is AMD K6-266, ASUS P55T2P4 mobo with 128M RAM, Tekram
> DC-390F UW SCSI adapter and WD 3.4G UW SCSI attached (it also has second
> EIDE WD 3.6G disk, used for storage only). Device drivers are left at
> FP10 level, e.g. I did not apply DD Fixpack. Other hardware includes
> ESS1868 sound card, two NICs (Realtek 8029 and DEC 41021 chipsets) and
> Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device driver that was upgraded
> simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one, now at v.2.31.100.
>
> Cheers,
> Ivan
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           19-Oct-99 13:02:09
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: no audio from cdplayer

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <380a6302$1$qnivfs$mr2ice@news.logical.net>, on 10/17/99 
   at 07:59 PM, nemo@union.edu said:

Are you are sure it was working before and you did not change anything
in the software?

I have a problem with my Crystal-based soundcard under WSeb due to WSeb
drivers for this card (v. 2.01) are conflicting with OS/2 built-in
MMPM/2 mixer. As a result, my CD input is turned off by default. This
means I can't hear audio played from CD unless I use external mixer
(LBCSMix) to turn CD input on. And then any system sound produced in WPS
(i.e., by opening a folder) will switch CD sound off again, so I need
either lock CD input in LBCSMix (there's an option) or just switch focus
to mixer window to get CD sound back. Try finding any third-party sound
mixer program for your card and use it to play with various mixer input
sources.

>I just discovered that my music cd-player isn't working in Warp, FP10.
>It works when booted to Win95 when I can't get a sound out of it when
>booted to OS/2. I do have system sounds and can play wav's, midi's,
>etc.

Chances are FP10 broke something in MMPM interface.

>Just need a fast tip where to look for trouble-shooting. Couldn't find
>anything on deja.com.

>I sent this message to comp.os.os2.misc and have gotten a couple of
>helpful replies. One was to reinstall Multimedia which I may end up
>doing, but I'm hoping for another solution before that. (I should
>install FP12 anyway, I guess.) It occurred to me today that the
>cdplayer _used_ to work a couple of weeks ago. I can't think of what I
>may have done to change the system since I've been very conservative
>(that is, no time for 'playing').

Before trying a complete reinstall of MMOS2, why not to try reinstalling
(upgrading?) just the drivers for your soundcard. BTW, which one you
have? Drivers for Crystal-based cards can be easily reinstalled on top
of the current version. This is not true for most other cards, in which
case a complete deinstall/reinstall of OS/2 Multimedia may be necessary.

Cheers,
Ivan

-- 
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"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
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From: nineveh@wwa.com                                   19-Oct-99 09:13:06
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Traveling Workplace hanging...

From: nineveh@wwa.com

All of a sudden, Traveling Workplace started hanging. When I start a backup,
it 
goes through to the very last file, OS2SYS.INI, which it never writes, and
that's
where it hangs. Has anyone experienced this?

Symptoms: total hang; the elapsed time indicator in Traveling Workplace
freezes.
I cannot kill the process, not with WarpCenter nor with Process Commander. I
can 
still run other programs, though.

System: OS/2 4.0, FP11 (note, FP12 was applied and then backed out).


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     19-Oct-99 16:51:26
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:54:35, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug 
Bissett) wrote:

> I had thought 
> about turning off the memory cache, but have never got around to 
> trying it. Now, I am going to try it.
> 

Sorry to respond to my own post, BUT:

YES, it does seem to make a BIG difference. Some things don't seem to 
be as quick, but I have not, yet, seen the 100% CPU thing.

Thanks...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: bts@iaehv.nl                                      19-Oct-99 01:42:14
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:07
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: "Martin Bartelds" <bts@iaehv.nl>

Very nice, my problem does have attention ;-(

- Kicking off the repeated animations cleared my problem.
  See another reply.
- No localproxy
- No local DNS, although hosts file use
- MPTS WR8610/20, but problem happened also earlier *memory*
- Indeed only memory cache.

Is there a real solution ?

Zero Netscape cache is a workaround, but very unfriendly
in a 33k modem connection.

Tell me where to push, to find the offending thing
and I'll push ......


/Martin.


On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23 GMT, Michael Warmuth wrote:

:>The problem are not the animations. You can get this behaviour on 
:>complex pages without animated GIFs.
:>
:>
:>Here is a description of the problem:
:>
:>When downloading a page with NS 4.04 or 4.61 all of a sudden CPU 
:>utilization goes to 100%. The CPU meter and the watch in WarpCenter 
:>stop. Netscape itself responds to user interaction absolutely normal 
:>(e.g. opening a menu or the preferences dialog) and the process 
:>indicator of NS works smoothly. In most cases, opening the preferences 
:>dialog and keeping it open until the pages is completely loaded brings 
:>down the CPU utilization to normal values. If you switch to another 
:>applications while this problem occurs there is a high chance that the 
:>system stalls completely with the need to reboot.
:>
:>This problem is very similar to the '100% CPU load while calculating 
:>complex tables' problem. The big difference is, that the latter is not 
:>a real bug - there is no system stability problem. While the table is 
:>rendered NS's interface is not very responsive (e.g. the status 
:>information stops and jumps a lot), and after completing the table the 
:>system reverts to a normal state.
:>
:>
:>The environment:
:>
:>Only under special circumstances the problem occurs. This is the 
:>reason why many people (and IBM) don't seem to be able to reproduce 
:>this. First you need a complex page. Then your system has to be 
:>configured like this:
:>
:>+ You use a proxy on the same machine (like WBI).
:>
:>+ You have a DNS running on the same computer (like BIND).
:>
:>+ You use a 32bit TCP/IP stack (e.g. TCP/IP 4.1 or MPTS WR8610 or 
:>WR8620).
:>
:>I am not quite sure if all of the above is required to run into the 
:>problem. Nor do I know if this happens if you use another proxy (like 
:>SQUID) or another nameserver.
:>
:>
:>The solution:
:>
:>If you use a local proxy there is a high chance that you have turned 
:>off the file cache within NS since this would be a second time caching 
:>beside what the proxy does. Most likely you have turned on the memory 
:>cache of NS so that pages visited in a session will be redisplayed 
:>faster (e.g. when using the back button). To cure the problem you now 
:>should do this:
:>
:>TURN OFF NETSCAPE'S MEMORY CACHE!!! (set it to 0)
:>
:>The drawback is, that animations will only run once. Configuring the 
:>file cache, so that it holds some amount of data (e.g. 1 to 2 MB) will 
:>bring back the animations.
:>
:>
:>I hope this clarifies the situation and solves a problem some of you 
:>encountered.
:>
:>Greetings
:>Michael
:>
:>-- 
:>Michael Warmuth                   Austria  - The place in the 
:>http://www.os2forum.or.at/        heart of Europe where no 
:>http://www.osiconsult.co.at/      kangaroos are hopping around
:>
:>
:>
:>
:>



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From: bts@iaehv.nl                                      19-Oct-99 01:48:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:07
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: "Martin Bartelds" <bts@iaehv.nl>

Yep, Yep, Yep !!!!

Did somebody send this to IBM ??????


/Martin.


On 16 Oct 1999 22:24:01 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:

:>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael Warmuth
<michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:
:>> > > In message <ogfvnruiay.fjiwnq0.pminews@martin> - "Martin Bartelds"
:>> > > <bts@iaehv.nl>Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:04:38 +0200 (CDT) writes:
:>> > > :>
:>> > > :>A lot of sites do contain animations. Loading such a site
:>> > > :>with Netscape 4.61 gives a 100% CPU load and a stalled
:>> > > :>Netscape.
:>> > > :>
:>> > > :>Giving a "Stop animations" solves this problem, however
:>> > > :>the page loading also stops.
:>> [...]
:>> 
:>> The problem are not the animations. You can get this behaviour on 
:>> complex pages without animated GIFs.
:>> 
:>> Here is a description of the problem:
:>> 
:>> When downloading a page with NS 4.04 or 4.61 all of a sudden CPU 
:>> utilization goes to 100%. The CPU meter and the watch in WarpCenter 
:>> stop. Netscape itself responds to user interaction absolutely normal 
:>> (e.g. opening a menu or the preferences dialog) and the process 
:>> indicator of NS works smoothly.
:>> 
:>[extraneous factors snipped]
:>> 
:>> The solution:
:>> If you use a local proxy there is a high chance that you have turned 
:>> off the file cache within NS since this would be a second time caching 
:>> beside what the proxy does. Most likely you have turned on the memory 
:>> cache of NS so that pages visited in a session will be redisplayed 
:>> faster (e.g. when using the back button). To cure the problem you now 
:>> should do this:
:>> 
:>> TURN OFF NETSCAPE'S MEMORY CACHE!!! (set it to 0)
:>
:>By George, he's got it!!! (or pretty close).  I did a bunch of testing
:>that seems to confirm that the problem lies in the interaction between
:>the disk and memory caches.  If you have a memory cache but no disk cache,
:>you'll get 100% CPU usage.  Setting memory cache to zero _or_ reenabling
:>a nominal disk cache solves the problem.
:>
:>The other factors that Michael mentioned (which I snipped, i.e. a 32-bit
:>stack, a DNS running on your system) appear not to be relevant.  Use of
:>a proxy is only relevant to the extent that its use is what would prompt
:>you to set disk caching to zero.
:>
:>FWIW, I wanted to retain my 2mb memory cache, so I set the disk cache
:>at 64kb.  When I had it at 1kb, there was nonstop disk activity as
:>NS kept filling and emptying it.  You'll probably want to set yours
:>to the size of a typical web page.
:>
:>Thanks, Michael!
:>
:>
:>   == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
:>___________________________________________________________________
:>
:>                |             - DragText v3.1 -
:>Rich Walsh      |  A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement
:>Ft Myers, FL    |  New!  Pickup & Drop for text, and more...
:>                |  http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/
:>___________________________________________________________________
:>



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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  18-Oct-99 20:18:11
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

Can't buy the swapper theory when my swap file is not on my boot driver
and 100Mb+ is free.

Brad BARCLAY wrote:
> 
> F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
> >
> > In <38075fc7$1$s.q.nyvax$mr2ice@news.nl.net>, on 10/15/1999
> >    at 07:08 PM, F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net said:
> >
> > >>> =================
> > >>> Disk Error
> > >>>
> > >>> The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
> > >>> be written to disk. The updates are
> > >>> being held to automatically retry the
> > >>> operation, but will be lost if the
> > >>> system is shutdown before correcting
> > >>> the problem.
> > >>> =================
> >
> > After all your thoughts I dared to do a reboot..... and everything is
> > fine now! I still wonder why this all has happened.....but I don't
> > expect a final answwer.
> 
>         99% of the time this error is displayed because you are running out
of
> disk space on the drive containing the INI file in question, and there
> is insufficient space to write the data safely to disk.
> 
>         Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a
smaller
> size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during the normal
> timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up again, move
> either your swapper to a different drive (if it isn't on a different
> drive/partition already), remove unused files/applications, or move your
> INI files to a different drive/partition with lots of available free
> space.
> 
> Brad BARCLAY
> 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
> E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com            Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    19-Oct-99 01:24:02
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: no audio from cdplayer

From: nemo@union.edu

In <7ug5p7$61b$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/18/99 
   at 10:08 PM, hunters@thunder.indstate.edu said:


>> Just need a fast tip where to look for trouble-shooting. Couldn't
>> find anything on deja.com.

>Have you checked the CD player volume? (ie: click on the little "speaker"
>and make sure it's turned up.)

Yeah, volume is ok.

>Have you tried using the Digital Transfer mode?

No. Where do I set this?

But I'm slowly resigning myself to having to reinstall multimedia if I
want to get this facility back.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: wwilly@one.net                                    19-Oct-99 06:29:14
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:05
Subj: Re: no audio from cdplayer

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<380a6302$1$qnivfs$mr2ice@news.logical.net>,
  nemo@union.edu wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I just discovered that my music cd-player isn't
working in Warp, FP10.
        <<<snip>>>
> Couldn't find anything on deja.com.
        <<<snip>>>

You didn't look very hard.  You should have found
multiple posts from me, about one after each Fix Pack
was released, saying that my Panasonic CR561 4X IDE
CD-ROM drive worked fine as a data device but
wouldn't play music with IBMIDECD.FLT.  It played
music only if I used MKEATAPI.ADD.  Until FP10.  When
some loophole closed & the Panasonic driver quit
working.  So I went out & bought a real CD-ROM drive
& everything works now.  I was prepared to go through
every brand of CD I could find until I found one that
worked.  Luckily, the first one I found did the
trick.  Something called IOMagic MagicSpin.  I know,
I'd never heard of it either before I saw it in the
store.  But it works fine.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: dmckenn@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 20:31:01
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: TRAP 000e

From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@ibm.net>

On 17 Oct 1999 20:12:41 GMT, uh45@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de wrote:

>Hi!
>
>It's me again, because I forgot something.
>According to my earlier message:
>I forgot to say, that I also installed the new matrox G400, 16 Mb, single
head.
>When booting, I get the message "SPD not found on SDRAM 1".
>
>I asked in other newsgroups, but they said, I don't really have to worry
>about this. :-?
>
>With my old Cirrus Logic Card, I din't get this BIOS-Error-message when
>booting!
>
>Could THIS be the prob for TRAP 000e???
>
>Thanxx for your answers!
>
>Cu!
>
>Andi
>
   Trap 000E generally indicates some type of memory problem (real or
virtual). Could be bad RAM or a failing hard disk - also bad memory on a
Video card or badly behaved drivers.

   I also have a Matrox G200 w/16MB RAM. When I installed their latest (2.31
I believe) I got a Trap 000E on reboot. Reverting to the version 2.23 drivers
was the only solution (or GRADD I suppose). If you are using the 2.31
drivers, try older ones, or try GRADD.

Dave McKenna


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From: rasche@rzaix340.rz.uni-leipzig.de                 20-Oct-99 02:36:22
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: SYS 2070 PMWP

From: Jan Rasche <rasche@rzaix340.rz.uni-leipzig.de>

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i have a problem with a new installed os2 v4 fixpack 012.
i can only start the wps with disabeled cache, otherwise the sys 2070 in
pmwp is the result.

i hope anybody have an idea on this!

thaks

jan

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    19-Oct-99 19:08:05
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: SYS 2070 PMWP

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

... and the reason for the fresh install is what? A new motherboard?
Sounds like a memory defect to me.

Graham.

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    20-Oct-99 04:56:26
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37fde322$1$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru>,
  "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> wrote:
> Anyone else noticed this? After applying FP12 to my
Warp 4 machine I am
> getting very strange sounds from my HDD. At the
very end of boot
> sequence, just after the screen is cleared from
drivers' boot messages
> and before the blue PM color appears - my hard disk
now makes a long
> harsh ar-r-r-r sound like its heads are trying to
go past the disk
> surface :-).
        <<<snip>>>
> Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device
driver that was upgraded
> simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one,
now at v.2.31.100.

I've got the same (old) video adapter & I just today
added the same new Matrox driver to my FP12 setup
here.  No problem.  The hard drive normally is very
active during bootup so there's pretty much
continuous whirring anyway.  But adding the Matrox
driver didn't make any noticeable change for me.  It
certainly didn't sound like the heads were going to
dig a hole in the recording surfaces.  The only
difference I've noticed so far is that when the video
clicks over from plain black to the colored
background for the first time at the end of
CONFIG.SYS processing, the way the display flickers
is a bit different than it used to be.  Otherwise,
the system seems unchanged & the video seems
unchanged.  I don't know what improvements, if any, I
got from this version of the video driver, but it
certainly didn't regress anything either.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: nemo@union.edu                                    20-Oct-99 02:28:08
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: no audio from cdplayer - success!

From: nemo@union.edu

In <380c36b1$1$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru>, on 10/19/99 
   at 01:02 PM, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> said:


>>I sent this message to comp.os.os2.misc and have gotten a couple of
>>helpful replies. One was to reinstall Multimedia which I may end up
>>doing, but I'm hoping for another solution before that. (I should
>>install FP12 anyway, I guess.) It occurred to me today that the
>>cdplayer _used_ to work a couple of weeks ago. I can't think of what I
>>may have done to change the system since I've been very conservative
>>(that is, no time for 'playing').

>Before trying a complete reinstall of MMOS2, why not to try reinstalling
>(upgrading?) just the drivers for your soundcard. BTW, which one you
>have? Drivers for Crystal-based cards can be easily reinstalled on top of
>the current version. This is not true for most other cards, in which case
>a complete deinstall/reinstall of OS/2 Multimedia may be necessary.

This was _so_ obvious and _so_ much the first thing to try, it's almost
_brilliant_ of you to mention it! 

I must have installed OS/2 (new system) and installed the new drivers, had
sound, was content and forgot about it. But then probably didn't check
after installing FP10 whether I had CD sound so I didn't notice until now.
(I don't play much with stuff like that on this machine.)

You reminded me there are the newer drivers... - I'm now listening to a
Telemann fantasia off the cdplayer now.

I kind of consider mmedia misfunctions a bit like the proverbial 'canary
in the mine', I fear they can point to deeper systemic problems.

Thanks for your help.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: whonea@codenet.net                                20-Oct-99 01:12:10
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: SYS 2070 PMWP

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:36:44, Jan Rasche 
<rasche@rzaix340.rz.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> hi all!
> 
> i have a problem with a new installed os2 v4 fixpack 012.
> i can only start the wps with disabeled cache, otherwise the sys 2070 in
> pmwp is the result.
> 
> i hope anybody have an idea on this!

I got similar garbage responses with FP12 - until I happened to 
realize that I had never cleaned up the SOMIR line in config.sys after
re-installing Visual Age C++ which pointed the SOM libraries to the 
ones included in the compiler path.  Never (seemed) to cause a problem
until FP12 but that was definitely a killer afterwards. Clues: 
pre-FP12 runs fine, an abbreviated maintenance partition runs fine 
with FP12.  

One other test case that might clarify the cause:  boot to a command 
line then start PMSHELL.EXE - if that runs you probably have a 
conflict with something in the config.sys.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: hohmann@harddiskcafe.de                           20-Oct-99 12:08:21
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: kernel panic: TRAP 000E

From: "bernd hohmann" <hohmann@harddiskcafe.de>

any idea what / which module trapped ?

TRAP 000E ERRCD=0000 ERACC=* ERIM=*
EAX=FEFEBC50 EBX=9B7FEE44 ECX=00000000 EDX=13B40369
ESI=FFF0AC6C EDI=13B40000 EBP=00005DB0 FLG=00012246
CS:EIP=á168:FFF5786C CSACC=C09B CSLIM=FFFFFFFF
SS:ESP=0030:00005D60 SSACC=1097 SSLIM=00004F7F
DS=0160 DSACC=C093 DSLIM=FFFFFFFF CR0=8001001B
ES=0160 ESACC=C093 ESLIM=FFFFFFFF CR2=DFF07464
FS=0000 FSACC=**** FSLIM=******** 
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** 

#0168:FFF492DE-000E:C2DE

05860580 internal revision 9.034/98/11/17

warpserver advanced 1.0, hpfs386, uniprocessor over warp 4.0 fp
#10.

was it video, lan-adapter or something else ?

w/o any clue ...

 bernd



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From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@b...               20-Oct-99 10:56:15
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: JAVAI access violation

Message sender: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch

From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens)

If I go to www.proxymate.com/signup.html, I get a security warning. 
After denying or granting, netscape 4.61 crashes with an access 
violation in JAVAI.DLL.
I use java 1.1.8 from 28jul99 with option -nojit

Jens

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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         19-Oct-99 17:58:16
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: Workplace shell bugs

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

I found some bugs not fixed in fixpack 12. Can anybody confirm these?

1. Draging and dropping of a file attachment from pmmail 2.1 to a folder will
halt the WPS (not responding and no reset possible) if the name of the file
has spaces in it.
Dropping files to the WPS itself will most often kill the WPS even with
short, 8.3  names. Maybe size is important here.

2. Draging and dropping a *.exe or *.cmd file will always create a shadow
even if the wps setting reads move. This will not happen if other files too
are dropped. This bug was introduced in warp 4 and is very annoying.

3. Playing sound with mwave drivers with for instance the entertainment pack
for os/2, warpamp and a bunch other software will generate a 100% cpu
utilization one or two seconds after the program is closed. Starting a second
program with sound enabled will hang the WPS. 

Arjen



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From: rasche@rzaix340.rz.uni-leipzig.de                 20-Oct-99 16:14:19
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: thanks Will

From: Jan Rasche <rasche@rzaix340.rz.uni-leipzig.de>

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with alt f1 - f2 - pmshell it's going -

thanks

jan


Will Honea wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:36:44, Jan Rasche
> <rasche@rzaix340.rz.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
>
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > hi all!
> >
> > i have a problem with a new installed os2 v4 fixpack 012.
> > i can only start the wps with disabeled cache, otherwise the sys 2070 in
> > pmwp is the result.
> >
> > i hope anybody have an idea on this!
>
> I got similar garbage responses with FP12 - until I happened to
> realize that I had never cleaned up the SOMIR line in config.sys after
> re-installing Visual Age C++ which pointed the SOM libraries to the
> ones included in the compiler path.  Never (seemed) to cause a problem
> until FP12 but that was definitely a killer afterwards. Clues:
> pre-FP12 runs fine, an abbreviated maintenance partition runs fine
> with FP12.
>
> One other test case that might clarify the cause:  boot to a command
> line then start PMSHELL.EXE - if that runs you probably have a
> conflict with something in the config.sys.
>
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: asmirnov@sendmail.mid.ru                          20-Oct-99 19:36:11
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Calling DosDevIOControl  for ResourceManager Investigation

From: Alexey Smirnov <asmirnov@sendmail.mid.ru>

Dear Frieds!
    I am a Russian programmer, who wrote a SysInfo/2 program. Now you
can find in Hobbes my last beta (file name is SYSINFO0038.ZIP). Now I am
working on Resource Tree page and I want to enumerate OS/2 resources
using DosDevIOControl function (function 0x80, subfunction 0x01 and
0x02). Please, HELP ME!
    When I call DosDevIOControl (func. 0x80, subfunc. 0x02 -> "traverses
the resource manager node structure...") with proper HANDLE (previously
getting from DosOpen function) - I get reasonable output (RC=0, and
Resources enumerated).
    But when I pass Resource Manager Handle, obtained from the first
step to DosDevIOControl (func. 0x80, subfunc. 0x01 -> "returns the
contents of resource manager node indicated by the handle provided") -
its returns an ERROR (RC= -244). I don't understand and can't find this
error code. Buffer, that I pass to DosDevIOControl is quite enuf. What
shell I do?
    Did anybody work with this functions? Can you help me to understand
a problem?

Best regards, Alexey Smirnov.

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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               20-Oct-99 16:11:20
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: What about C-A-D Commander?  How this one compares with PC?

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

 
> The web site is:
> http://www.pcs-soft.com/products.htm
> 
> Anyone knows more about this product?

Why not try the demo? It has multiple desktops,
prevents CAD to do an immediate reboot <g>, it
can "tune" the processes, has detailed displays of
what is going on in your system, you can have a line
at the bottom of the screen informing you about things
for which there is no room in the warpcenter, it has a hot-
key to application possibility, can tell you about the dll's your
application uses etc. etc. etc. In short I like it a lot and you can
buy it from the author's site and at BMT (and perhaps elsewhere).

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: wwilly@one.net                                    20-Oct-99 12:31:16
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: "Bill \"Wild Willy\" Kredentser" <wwilly@one.net>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Martin Bartelds wrote:

> Yep, Yep, Yep !!!!
        <<<snip>>>
> On 16 Oct 1999 22:24:01 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:
> :>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael Warmuth
<michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:
> :>> > > In message <ogfvnruiay.fjiwnq0.pminews@martin> - "Martin Bartelds"
> :>> > > <bts@iaehv.nl>Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:04:38 +0200 (CDT) writes:
<<<extra long snip of discussion of using local proxy & name servers,
setting Communicator's RAM cache to 0, and other stuff>>>

Nope, nope, nope.

This problem may be as y'all have described it on your systems.  But there
have been numerous reports here since at least February 1999, which spans
the February 12 release of 4.04, the midsummer release of the XR_1404 FP
for that, and the current 4.61GA Communicator, of a problem that is much
simpler.  No local proxy server.  No local DNS.  Ordinary configuration of
cache.  (In my case, 0 on disk, 16Meg to RAM.)  And animations, Java, &
Javascript enabled.  You go to a page.  It looks to the naked eye like it
is completely loaded.  But Communicator believes there is more to load. It
sits there like that for a while, until you finally notice.  During this
time, you can't scroll the page, which ALREADY LOOKS RENDERED (so this
isn't about complicated tables) using arrows or the page keys, but you can
scroll it with the mouse in the scroll bar.  When you wonder what's up &
switch focus to ANYTHING else, suddenly the page completes loading.  My
favorite other thing to switch focus to is the SIO Poor Man's Line
Monitor, which shows that in fact hardly anything at all actually gets
transferred to complete the page.  Looks more like an exchange of ACKs,
although it's just hex stuff so I have to be guessing.  If I go look at
the WARP Meter, I see that CPU has been pegged at 100% for the duration of
the time nothing was happening.  This was discussed in several threads
during calendar 1999.  And I have pointed all of this out before.
Configurations have been whatever had been current at the various times,
so the finger points squarely at something in Communicator that has not
changed since it's initial 4.04 release -- when? -- about a year ago?

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
(Deja News suddenly went on the fritz while I was looking at news there)

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From: as@sci.fi                                         20-Oct-99 19:07:23
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Workplace shell bugs

From: Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi>

"Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl> writes:

> 2. Draging and dropping a *.exe or *.cmd file will always create a shadow
> even if the wps setting reads move. This will not happen if other files too
> are dropped. This bug was introduced in warp 4 and is very annoying.

I can't make that happen on my system. Well, dragging a file object that's
exe or cmd to some WPS folder creates a program object, but that's as
it should be in my opinion.

-- 
Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi

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From: yourself@127.0.0.1                                20-Oct-99 18:21:08
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:31:33, "Bill \"Wild Willy\" Kredentser"
<wwilly@one.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Martin Bartelds wrote:
> 
> > Yep, Yep, Yep !!!!
>         <<<snip>>>
> > On 16 Oct 1999 22:24:01 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:
> > :>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael Warmuth
<michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:
> > :>> > > In message <ogfvnruiay.fjiwnq0.pminews@martin> - "Martin Bartelds"
> > :>> > > <bts@iaehv.nl>Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:04:38 +0200 (CDT) writes:
> <<<extra long snip of discussion of using local proxy & name servers,
> setting Communicator's RAM cache to 0, and other stuff>>>
> 
> Nope, nope, nope.
> 
> This problem may be as y'all have described it on your systems.  But there
> have been numerous reports here since at least February 1999, which spans
> the February 12 release of 4.04, the midsummer release of the XR_1404 FP
> for that, and the current 4.61GA Communicator, of a problem that is much
> simpler.  No local proxy server.  No local DNS.  Ordinary configuration of
> cache.  (In my case, 0 on disk, 16Meg to RAM.)  And animations, Java, &
> Javascript enabled.  You go to a page.  It looks to the naked eye like it
> is completely loaded.  But Communicator believes there is more to load. It
> sits there like that for a while, until you finally notice.  During this
> time, you can't scroll the page, which ALREADY LOOKS RENDERED (so this
> isn't about complicated tables) using arrows or the page keys, but you can
> scroll it with the mouse in the scroll bar.  When you wonder what's up &
> switch focus to ANYTHING else, suddenly the page completes loading.  My
> favorite other thing to switch focus to is the SIO Poor Man's Line
> Monitor, which shows that in fact hardly anything at all actually gets
> transferred to complete the page.  Looks more like an exchange of ACKs,
> although it's just hex stuff so I have to be guessing.  If I go look at
> the WARP Meter, I see that CPU has been pegged at 100% for the duration of
> the time nothing was happening.  This was discussed in several threads
> during calendar 1999.  And I have pointed all of this out before.
> Configurations have been whatever had been current at the various times,
> so the finger points squarely at something in Communicator that has not
> changed since it's initial 4.04 release -- when? -- about a year ago?

Regardless of whether this is the same problem or a completely different
one, the fact remains that you have a memory cache and no disk cache.
Several of us have found that this is a sure recipe for 100% CPU usage.

Reenable a small disk cache, then visit your favorite problem pages.
What happens?  (I was using http://www.concentric.com/index2.shtml as
my test, simply because it was the first page I came upon while testing
that consistently demonstrated 100% CPU usage.)

IMHO, it will only bolster your assertion that there is *another* problem
if you can clearly rule out the one currently under discussion.  Until
then, we can expect more of these "yes it is" / "no it isn't" postings.

BTW...  can you offer specific pages that demonstrate the problem you
describe, or is it an on-again/off-again sort of phenomenon?


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From: yourself@127.0.0.1                                20-Oct-99 18:47:17
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Workplace shell bugs

From: yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:58:32, "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>
wrote:

> I found some bugs not fixed in fixpack 12. Can anybody confirm these?
> 
> 1. Draging and dropping of a file attachment from pmmail 2.1 to a folder
will
> halt the WPS (not responding and no reset possible) if the name of the file
> has spaces in it.
> Dropping files to the WPS itself will most often kill the WPS even with
> short, 8.3  names. Maybe size is important here.
> 
> 2. Draging and dropping a *.exe or *.cmd file will always create a shadow
> even if the wps setting reads move. This will not happen if other files too
> are dropped. This bug was introduced in warp 4 and is very annoying.
> 
> 3. Playing sound with mwave drivers with for instance the entertainment pack
> for os/2, warpamp and a bunch other software will generate a 100% cpu
> utilization one or two seconds after the program is closed. Starting a
second
> program with sound enabled will hang the WPS. 

Item 2 isn't a bug, it's a very poorly implemented feature.  D&D for
exe's and cmd's should produce a *program object*, not a shadow.  Look
at the resulting object's notebook:  there should not be a 'File' tab.

IMHO, this was a very good idea, but it should only have been applied
to exe's dropped on the Desktop or one of its subfolders.  Then too,
this feature should have dropped the ".exe" or ".cmd" from the object's
title to make the transformation somewhat more obvious.  (I tried to do
this in DTProgram but failed.  It appears that the title is set by the
original program-file object rather than the resulting program object.)

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             20-Oct-99 15:46:10
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: kernel panic: TRAP 000E

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:08:43 +0100 (MEZ), bernd hohmann wrote:

>any idea what / which module trapped ?
The os2krnl trapped, probably due to a hardware error.


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    21-Oct-99 04:32:27
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<zzdHjdPQunhi-pn2-Fc45XuJgWMPF@ftm018.usacomputers.ne
t>,
  yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh) wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:31:33, "Bill \"Wild Willy\"
Kredentser" <wwilly@one.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Martin Bartelds wrote:
> > > Yep, Yep, Yep !!!!
> >         <<<snip>>>
> > > On 16 Oct 1999 22:24:01 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:
> > > :>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael Warmuth
<michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:
> > > :>> > > In message
<ogfvnruiay.fjiwnq0.pminews@martin> - "Martin
Bartelds"
> > > :>> > > <bts@iaehv.nl>Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:04:38
+0200 (CDT) writes:
> > <<<extra long snip of discussion of using local
proxy & name servers,
> > setting Communicator's RAM cache to 0, and other
stuff>>>
> > Nope, nope, nope.
        <<<snip>>>
> BTW...  can you offer specific pages that
demonstrate the problem you
> describe, or is it an on-again/off-again sort of
phenomenon?

I was reading articles based at
http://espn.go.com/nhl/index.html.  The page loaded
fine.  I clicked a link.  Read an article.  Clicked
Back.  The page took forever to redisplay.  I was
also keeping one eye on a hockey game on TV so I
wasn't paying close attention.  After about a minute,
I turned back to my monitor & the page hadn't
reloaded.  I was coming back to a page I had just
visited & it was taking minutes to redisplay.  Not
reload.  Redisplay.  So I finally went to look at
PMLM & boom.  The page loaded.  Then I looked at the
WARP Meter & sure enough, 100%.  OK.  Clicked another
article, read it, came back.  Stalled.  Same
workaround.  Clicked another 2 or 3 articles & came
back.  Each time it was fine, no stall.

So it's on again, off again.

And at some point, I will experiment with a small
disk cache & 0 RAM cache & see what that does.  For
the most part, I just turn off graphics, Java, &
Javascript.  That speeds up page loading overall &
does completely avoid the problem.  But I do turn
them all on when I'm looking at the hockey stuff at
ESPN because the images & the Real Audio plugin clips
are big parts of the content.

It is my impression that the problem does lie in the
graphics.  And it isn't simply that they are
animated.  I think that is a factor, but I think it's
also something about the way the pages are coded.
Some of these graphics actually launch Javascripts.
I think.  I'm guessing.  I don't really know.  It's
intermittent.  I also think sometimes it's affected
by the responsiveness of the web site & my ISP.  When
the net isn't responding well, it seems to lock up
Communicator.  And I don't mean the obvious, that
when the net stops, Communicator doesn't display
anything.  I mean when the net stops, CPU goes to
100% & Watchcat says it's in Communicator.  What is
Communicator doing when nothing is coming in over the
modem?

Modem.  This never happens on my office system, which
is connected via a NIC to a high-speed LAN which is
connected to our corporate ISP over a very high-speed
leased line, some fractional T1 I believe.  This does
definitely seem to be unique to modem-connected
systems.

I also usually see the effect at the Dilbert web site
at http://www.dilbert.com.  And the Ziff-Davis
coverage of the Department of Justice antitrust trial
at http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/special/msdojtrial.html.
These pages load very fast with graphics, Java, &
Javascript disabled.  But turn them on & they cause
long delays.  100% CPU, no data transferred, nothing
rendered.  I wish somebody else would confirm this.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             21-Oct-99 08:18:09
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 05:18:01
Subj: PINBALL.SYS and FP12?

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

Hello,

I recently ungraded one of my computers, which can dual boot
between OS/2 and NT4, from FP8 to FP12. Yesterday I booted to
NT for the first time since the upgrade and I find that I can 
nolonger see my HPFS partitions from NT.
I have PINBALL.SYS installed on NT and all the HPFS partitions
were there last time I booted to NT.

Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12 can see HPFS
partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 & FP12 that
stops it working?
I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I wouldn't really
expect to since it is not really supported.

TIA,
-- 
Dave

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From: hohmann@harddiskcafe.de                           21-Oct-99 09:52:09
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 05:18:01
Subj: Re: kernel panic: TRAP 000E

From: "bernd hohmann" <hohmann@harddiskcafe.de>

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:46:21 -0500 (CDT), Scott E. Garfinkle
wrote:

> >any idea what / which module trapped ?

> The os2krnl trapped, probably due to a hardware error.

ok, i'll check it. 10min another:

TRAP 000D ERRCD=0000 ERRACC=**** ERLIM=********
EAX=00001128 EBX=9B840000 ECX=00000000 EBX=00000EC8
ESI=9BBB0522 EDI=00000EC8 EBP=00B057CE EFLG=00012246
CS:EIP=1138:0000DF49 CSACC=009B CSLIM=0000F7E5
SS:ESP=0030:000057BA SSACC=1097 SSLIM=0000493B
DS=1128 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=0000F74F CR0=80010013
ES=0000 ESACC=**** ESLIM=******** CR2=00D3E000
FS=0000 FSACC=**** FSLIM=******** 
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********

##0168:FFF492DE-000E:C2DE
60000,9084
05860580 internal revision 9.034/98/11/17

thanks in advance !

bernd



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From: Vishanti_i@hotmail.com                            21-Oct-99 10:11:23
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Trap 000e solved - Warp 3 build40

From: Vishanti_i@hotmail.com

Ok well xtensivly I did everything (BIOS, Replaced Desktop + MDOS)
and it did no good. So I went and reinstalled fixpak xr,,40
And that went fine since I had almost replaced all to xr30001.
But at the very end of Locked file install it came up with
this little error:

Dos_Install.exe failed to fix registry (approx description)
Well. I had an idea a registry might be screwed up but OS2
has 3 so I am not about to go looking into all those.

Anyway, I went to System folder and reexecuted Dos_Install
and it nicely reinstalled the dos link, what ever that is?
That fixed everything..
I suspect it is the link between OS2 and windows shell shareing.
Because at 1st I could not have either dos, but in the beginning
I had reinstalled OS2 dos and it worked OK. However, Win31 would
not open at all (Trap 000e). So I would imagine the registry was
not fixed at selective install (on the Win31 side).

Also note that it always crashed when I tried to post here.
So this is a good test for me, because if it does not crash
you will see this....haha
Now I have to rebuild my windows programs..uugh


Hope this helps a few people

PS This is the EXACT same crash as Will had on his machine.
See other post on Trap 000e Warp 3 40.


Vishanti


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From: mc6530@mclink.it                                  21-Oct-99 11:01:25
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: mc6530@mclink.it (Yuri Dario)

Hi,

yesterday I lost my JFS partition from my WarpServer for Ebusiness PC.
Now chkdsk is unable to restore the partition because it is quitting 
during step 3

E:\>chkdsk F: /f
The current hard disk drive is: F:
The type of file system for the disk is JFS.
The JFS file system program has been started.
CHKDSK  Block size in bytes:  4096
CHKDSK  File system size in blocks:  1048233
CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory 
Entries
CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links
CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory 
Tree
    ....|....
E:\>

I were using the JFS.IFS fixed when the partition got corrupted. I 
tried also using the old JFS.IFS but it has the same problem.
The partition data should be still good, because steps 1 and 2 can be 
completed.

My pc is a dual P3/450, 256MB, supermicro P6DBU with IBM 9.1scsi U2W.

I need some help to reset the dirty flag on JFS, because I need to 
extract at least a few missing files from tapes.

Can you help me?

Bye,

	Yuri Dario

/*
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From: uliw@erdw.ethz.ch                                 21-Oct-99 13:24:14
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:10
Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12?

From: Uli Wortmann <uliw@erdw.ethz.ch>

dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons) writes:
 last time I booted to NT.
> 
> Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12 can see HPFS
> partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 & FP12 that
> stops it working?
> I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I wouldn't really
> expect to since it is not really supported.

Works for fp10 here

	uli
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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                21-Oct-99 08:46:12
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:10
Subj: Re: Calling DosDevIOControl  for ResourceManager Investigation

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:36:22 +0400, Alexey Smirnov wrote:

>Dear Frieds!
>    I am a Russian programmer, who wrote a SysInfo/2 program. Now you
>can find in Hobbes my last beta (file name is SYSINFO0038.ZIP). Now I am
>working on Resource Tree page and I want to enumerate OS/2 resources
>using DosDevIOControl function (function 0x80, subfunction 0x01 and
>0x02). Please, HELP ME!
>    When I call DosDevIOControl (func. 0x80, subfunc. 0x02 -> "traverses
>the resource manager node structure...") with proper HANDLE (previously
>getting from DosOpen function) - I get reasonable output (RC=0, and
>Resources enumerated).
>    But when I pass Resource Manager Handle, obtained from the first
>step to DosDevIOControl (func. 0x80, subfunc. 0x01 -> "returns the
>contents of resource manager node indicated by the handle provided") -
>its returns an ERROR (RC= -244). I don't understand and can't find this
>error code. Buffer, that I pass to DosDevIOControl is quite enuf. What
>shell I do?
>    Did anybody work with this functions? Can you help me to understand
>a problem?

The first thing you should do is declare the RC variable as APIRET, so
that it's an unsigned long integer (as it should be).  

Then you might find the error code.  Since I've never dealt with any of
the resource manager information, that's all I can say for now.



 - Mike

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From: yourself@127.0.0.1                                21-Oct-99 11:54:13
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:10
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:32:54, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
wrote:
> In article> <zzdHjdPQunhi-pn2-Fc45XuJgWMPF@ftm018.usacomputers.net>,
yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh) wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:31:33, "Bill \"Wild Willy\" Kredentser"
<wwilly@one.net> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Martin Bartelds wrote:
> > >         <<<snip>>>
> > > > On 16 Oct 1999 22:24:01 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:
> > > > :>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael Warmuth
<michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:
> > > > :>> > > In message <ogfvnruiay.fjiwnq0.pminews@martin> - "Martin
Bartelds" <bts@iaehv.nl> writes:

<MW> [if diskcache is zero, set memory cache to zero also]
<RW> [reenable small disk cache and retain memory cache]
<MB> Yep, Yep, Yep !!!!
<WW> Nope, nope, nope.
<RW> [_un_snipped:  "the fact remains that you [WW] have a memory cache and
     no disk cache. Several of us have found that this is a sure recipe
     for 100% CPU usage."]

> > BTW...  can you offer specific pages that demonstrate the problem you
> > describe, or is it an on-again/off-again sort of  phenomenon?
> 
> I was reading articles based at http://espn.go.com/nhl/index.html.
> The page loaded fine.  I clicked a link.  Read an article.  Clicked
> Back. [...] After about a minute, I turned back to my monitor & the
> page hadn't reloaded.  I was coming back to a page I had just
> visited & it was taking minutes to redisplay.  Not reload.  Redisplay.
> So I finally went to look at  PMLM & boom.  The page loaded.  Then I
> looked at the  WARP Meter & sure enough, 100%.  OK.  Clicked another
> article, read it, came back.  Stalled.  Same workaround.  Clicked
> another 2 or 3 articles & came back.  Each time it was fine, no stall.
> 
> So it's on again, off again.
> 
> And at some point, I will experiment with a small disk cache &
> 0 RAM cache & see what that does. [...]
> 
> It is my impression that the problem does lie in the graphics.
[snip]
> I also usually see the effect at the Dilbert web site at
> http://www.dilbert.com.  And [...]
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/special/msdojtrial.html.
> [...] I wish somebody else would confirm this.

I wandered around these 3 sites and had NO problems with everything
enabled (2mb mem cache, 128k disk cache, graphics, java, etc.), and
a dial-up connection running at 44kbaud.

<bad attitude>
Quite frankly, if you're truly interested in resolving - or at least
working around - a problem you've had for a long time, a little more
testing and a whole lot less less verbiage is called for.  The known
"cure" is *not* a small disk cache and no RAM cache (as you said above),
but simply having both types of cache enabled, regardless of size, or
both disabled.  For many, the preferred solution is a large memory
cache and a very small disk cache.  Try it, and _then_ get back to us.
</bad attitude>

BTW...  loading graphics (GIFs in particular) certainly does seem to be
at the bottom of this.  When I've used SmartCache and suffered 100%
CPU usage, SC *always* showed that a GIF was being loaded - even when
I was offline (so much for modem vs LAN...).

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From: asmirnov@sendmail.mid.ru                          21-Oct-99 17:59:05
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:10
Subj: Re: Calling DosDevIOControl  for ResourceManager Investigation

From: Alexey Smirnov <asmirnov@sendmail.mid.ru>

> The first thing you should do is declare the RC variable as APIRET, so
> that it's an unsigned long integer (as it should be).
>
> Then you might find the error code.  Since I've never dealt with any of
> the resource manager information, that's all I can say for now.
>
>  - Mike
>

Hi, Mike!
    Well, well... If I declare RC like LongWord (Unsigned integer with 4 byte
length) - I get RC=65292. I can't find *ANY* discription of this error code
anywhere in *.INF, *.HLP or *.H files I have.

Best regards, Alexey Smirnov.

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From: asmirnov@sendmail.mid.ru                          21-Oct-99 18:20:04
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: Calling DosDevIOControl  for ResourceManager Investigation (more..)

From: Alexey Smirnov <asmirnov@sendmail.mid.ru>

> The first thing you should do is declare the RC variable as APIRET, so
> that it's an unsigned long integer (as it should be).
>
> Then you might find the error code.  Since I've never dealt with any of
> the resource manager information, that's all I can say for now.
>
>  - Mike

One more: Calling DosErrClass with RC=65292 I get
    ErrorClass      = 13 (UNKNOWN)
    ErrorAction    = 4   (ABORT YOUR PROGRAM)
    ErrorLocus    = 1   (UNKNOWN)

What does it mean?

Alexey

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From: jSePnAsMaBjOcTe@w271zrz.zrz.tu-b...               21-Oct-99 15:49:14
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: Calling DosDevIOControl  for ResourceManager Investigation

Message sender: jSePnAsMaBjOcTe@w271zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de

From: jSePnAsMaBjOcTe@w271zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Jens Glathe)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:59:10, Alexey Smirnov 
<asmirnov@sendmail.mid.ru> wrote:

Greetings!

> Hi, Mike!
>     Well, well... If I declare RC like LongWord (Unsigned integer with 4
byte
> length) - I get RC=65292. I can't find *ANY* discription of this error code
> anywhere in *.INF, *.HLP or *.H files I have.
> 
> Best regards, Alexey Smirnov.

65292==0xFF0C, which is a defined return code for device drivers. You 
can find them in the control program reference (I hope so), and in the
PDD reference. The codes are defined in bseerr.h, and start with 
ERROR_I24_. Your return code means ERROR_I24_GEN_FAILURE. Now we know 
a lot more :)

with best regards,

Jens Glathe <glathe at gmx dot de>

-- 
Never trust a programmer who is carrying a screwdriver.

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From: sbogom@voicenet.com                               21-Oct-99 13:18:08
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:11
Subj: FP12 & seamless Windows

From: Stuart Bogom <sbogom@voicenet.com>

I just upgraded from FP7 to FP12. Now I am having trouble with seamless
Win 3.1 sessions. I have no trouble starting a full screen Win3.1
session, and sometimes I can start a seamless Windows command prompt
(OS/2 System>Command Prompts>Win OS/2 Window). But I can't start a
seamless session from a WPS icon. When I try, I get some disk activity,
then the CPU meter goes to 100%, the mouse pointer goes to a clock shape
and nothing else happens. I have to Ctrl-Esc to get the mouse pointer
back to an arrow, then Ctrl-click on the 'switch to another application'
icon on the WarpCenter and kill the 'SYSINIT' task to bring my CPU
activity back to normal.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance
Stuart Bogom

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    21-Oct-99 17:34:07
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:11
Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12?

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<Ej0w7lFo08Zw-pn2-jjKSUgyP6RXd@saturn.dwparsons.diali
n.t-online.de>,
  dwparsons@t-online.de wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently ungraded one of my computers, which can
dual boot
> between OS/2 and NT4, from FP8 to FP12. Yesterday I
booted to
> NT for the first time since the upgrade and I find
that I can
> nolonger see my HPFS partitions from NT.
> I have PINBALL.SYS installed on NT and all the HPFS
partitions
> were there last time I booted to NT.
>
> Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12
can see HPFS
> partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 &
FP12 that
> stops it working?
> I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I
wouldn't really
> expect to since it is not really supported.

I doubt whether the Fix Pack level of OS/2 matters in
the slightest to whether PINBALL.SYS can see your
HPFS partitions, since you're --> IN NT <-- when
you're accessing your HPFS partitions.  OS/2 isn't
active so its Fix Pack level must be irrelevant.  I
should think whatever is wrong is entirely on the NT
side.

I have been running NT as my alternate OS since May,
under duress, very much against my will.  My employer
insists I work in this really bad client-server app
that runs ONLY in the Viral platforms (VirusNT &
Virus9x).  So the tail is wagging the dog.  I
followed these instructions, supplied by a fellow
WARPer in this news group a couple of years ago &
they work fine for me.

------------- Begin copied instructions -------------

Here's detailed info (for us novices) on getting
WindowsNT 4.0 to recognize HPFS.

Start by copying PINBALL.SYS from NT 3.51 "boot" disk
(the first of the three installation disks) to your
%WINDIR%\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS subdirectory [%WINDIR% for
most systems is:  X:\WINNT where X:  is the partition
you have installed NT to]

Click START, RUN

REGEDT32

Select HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

Highlight System

Select Tree, Expand Branch

Scroll down to Services under CurrentControlSet (it's
a long way down)

Highlight Services

Select Edit, Add Key

Name it Pinball

Scroll down to and highlight (the new) Pinball

Select Edit, Add value [4 times, to add each of the
following, observing case]

ErrorControl  REG_DWORD  01 Hex
Group   String   File system
Start  REG_DWORD  01 Hex
Type  REG_DWORD  02 Hex

[If the above seems cryptic, the menus you will be in
will make it clear.]

Now exit everything and reboot.  Your HPFS
partition(s) will now be visible and readable.

------------- End copied instructions ---------------

I do not know NT like I know OS/2.  The folks in our
PC support group installed it on my office system & I
just copied it to my home system.  I do not know what
I'm doing, yet I managed to follow the above
instructions & my HPFS partitions are visible & even
updatable from NT.  However, I have a deep & abiding
mistrust of all things M$ so I have disciplined
myself to avoid updating anything HPFS from NT.  I
have the NT boot partition & one other as FAT16.  I
have created a directory in the other FAT16 partition
called OS2EXCHG & I put things there that I want to
copy from NT to one of my HPFS partitions, which is
rarely, and I'll boot to OS/2 & do the move from
there.  There was a recent thread in this news group
saying PIBALL has trouble with HPFS partitions over
8G and/or past the 8G boundary.  Or was it 4G?  I
don't recall.  Whatever.  Although my hard drive is
8G, I am not (yet) using more than 4G of it.  So NT
sees all my HPFS data so far.  It works fine
read-only.

And my WARP4 is at FP12, although this was working at
FP11 & perhaps FP10.  I don't recall what was current
this past May.  But like I say, I should think the
Fix Pack level on OS/2 is irrelevant.

WW
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From: wwilly@one.net                                    21-Oct-99 18:50:27
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <7um51m$an8$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
wrote:
> In other articles others wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> http://espn.go.com/nhl/index.html.
        <<<snip>>>
> And at some point, I will experiment with a small
> disk cache & 0 RAM cache & see what that does.
        <<<snip>>>
> at http://www.dilbert.com.
> at
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/special/msdojtrial.html
        <<<snip>>>

I dropped my RAM cache from 16M to 0 & bumped my DASD
cache up from 0 to 1M.  Then I tried visiting these
pages & things seemed fine.  So I tried to really
load things up by reading in about a dozen news
threads from Deja News in separate browser
instantiations.  They all loaded fine without my
having to resort to switching focus off the browsers.
Then I started reading through them.  After closing
the third of them, with about 9 of them still open,
Communicator suddenly took one of those SYS3175 traps
that's been posted here many times.  The trap took
all the remaining browser instantiations down.

So I decided to get radical.  I'm now running with no
cache whatsoever.  0 RAM cache.  0 DASD cache.

I went to the ESPN NHL scoreboard for last night.
There were 8 games played.  I loaded each game recap
in a separate browser instantiation.  They all loaded
fine without my having to switch focus away from the
browsers.  Then I started reading them, including
playing the Real Video clips.  But that's a fly in
the ointment.  Each video clip plays using the 16-bit
Windows plugin in a separate little browser window.
As soon as the proxy browser starts to service the
first such plugin request, CPU shoots up to 100% &
stays there.  The only way to get it down (without
killing things) is to close all browser
instantiations, the last of which does close the
proxy browser, at which point CPU drops back to
normal.  But my system didn't ACT like it was at
100%.  All functions, task switching, page scrolling,
everything acted like the CPU was low.  But I can say
that I managed to read all the recaps without hitting
the SYS3175, and that's a first!

Then I went to the Dilbert site.  But my test there
was inconclusive because the server seemed to be
having load problems.  But what pages did manage to
load came in without my having to switch focus off
the browser.  The problem in the past has been that
the advertising wouldn't load unless I switched focus
away from the browser.  However, despite the load
problems, on balance, I'd say the problem is gone.

Then I loaded the Ziff-Davis page, in a separate
browser instantiation, against the loading of another
page in another window, and they both came in fine &
even pretty fast.  Another first!

And then I tried the Deja News trick & it went off
without a hitch.  Another first!

So I am now echoing what others have been saying
here:  there's some kind of problem in the cache
management.  Not only does that seem to be causing
100% CPU problems, but it also seems to be the source
of the page stall & multiple browser instantiation
problems that I've been hammering on.  Setting both
caches to 0 is a workaround.  The bug remains.

However, I'm going back to running with graphics,
Java, & Javascript turned off just because that makes
pages load faster.  And who wants to see that damned
animated advertising anyway?  This isn't due to a bug
but just a reality of being constrained by a slow
phone line.  I'm lucky if I get a 24000 baud
connection.  Cincinnati Bell is currently charging
way too much for ADSL, which I can't get here yet
anyway.  And Time-Warner Cable is charging way too
much for cable Internet access.  I am already a
subscriber to both services.  They should be charging
me an extra $10 a month.  Or less, since I AM ALREADY
one of their customers.  And free installation.  I'm
holding out for lower prices.  Until then, I'll just
suffer with a slow phone line & the bad side-effects
of monopolization.  An object lesson the software
world is about to be taught by Judge Thomas Penfield
Jackson.

WW
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From: wwilly@one.net                                    21-Oct-99 19:06:01
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU 

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<zzdHjdPQunhi-pn2-27ifQM11W8KE@ftm047.usacomputers.ne
t>,
  yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh) wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:32:54, Bill "Wild Willy"
Kredentser <wwilly@one.net> wrote:
> > In article>
<zzdHjdPQunhi-pn2-Fc45XuJgWMPF@ftm018.usacomputers.ne
t>, yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh) wrote:
> > > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:31:33, "Bill \"Wild
Willy\" Kredentser" <wwilly@one.net> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Martin Bartelds wrote:
> > > >         <<<snip>>>
> > > > > On 16 Oct 1999 22:24:01 GMT, Rich Walsh
wrote:
> > > > > :>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:16:23, Michael
Warmuth <michael.warmuth@wu-wien.ac.at> wrote:
> > > > > :>> > > In message
<ogfvnruiay.fjiwnq0.pminews@martin> - "Martin
Bartelds" <bts@iaehv.nl> writes:
        <<<snip>>>
> I wandered around these 3 sites and had NO problems

As have I, as I have just posted, before I saw this
post.

> with everything
> enabled (2mb mem cache, 128k disk cache, graphics,
java, etc.), and
> a dial-up connection running at 44kbaud.

Hmmm........  I'll have to try something similar.

> <bad attitude>

Which I shall tactfully ignore....... <:-))

        <<<snip>>>
> but simply having both types of cache enabled,
regardless of size, or
> both disabled.
        <<<snip>>>

AHA!  That was not previously clear to me.  I'll try
both enabled.  That seems more appealing to me than
both disabled, which is what I'm doing at the moment.
I think I'll go back to the 16M RAM cache I had but
try the 128K disk cache you recommend.  If that
works, I WON'T post again.  No news is good news.

WW
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From: sjehay@ibm.net                                    21-Oct-99 20:11:29
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 20:06:28
Subj: SYS3171 in JAVAI.DLL with servlet

From: sjehay@ibm.net

Hi,

I'm experiencing a strange problem with the GA version of Java 1.1.8
with the latest fixes.  I'm trying to run a third-party servlet-based
shopping cart system using Domino Go and Websphere 1.1 under Warp 4.

Whenever you try to list 8 products from a category of a couple of
hundred, Domino crashes with a SYS3171 as follows:

10-21-1999  20:45:03  SYS3171  PID 002b  TID 000d  Slot 006c
E:\OS2APPS\NEW\DOMINOGO\BIN\HTTPD.EXE
c0000005
1e6ebfb3
P1=00000002  P2=00b13a90  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=00000000  ECX=00b11000  EDX=00003000
ESI=05fc62e3  EDI=00b11000
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e6ebfb3  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00b13a94  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00b13af4  FLG=00012206

JAVAI.DLL 0002:0006bfb3

SYS3171: A program in this session encountered a problem and
cannot continue.

EXPLANATION: The process was terminated without running exception
handlers because there was not enough room left on the stack to
dispatch the exception.  This is typically caused by exceptions
occurring in exception handlers.

ACTION: If you purchased this program, contact the supplier of the
program.  If you are the developer of this program, refer to the
information in the register.

This does not happen with Java 1.1.7.  I can't tell you any more since
whatever error would have appeared seems to have gone wrong itself,
according to this message.

Does anyone have any ideas as to how to proceed?

Thanks very much in advance,
--
Simon Hay
sjehay@ibm.net
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From: dink@dontspamme.com                               21-Oct-99 18:11:24
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: FP12 & seamless Windows

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dontspamme.com>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:18:17 -0400, Stuart Bogom wrote:

>I just upgraded from FP7 to FP12. Now I am having trouble with seamless
>Win 3.1 sessions. I have no trouble starting a full screen Win3.1
>session, and sometimes I can start a seamless Windows command prompt
>(OS/2 System>Command Prompts>Win OS/2 Window). But I can't start a
>seamless session from a WPS icon. When I try, I get some disk activity,
>then the CPU meter goes to 100%, the mouse pointer goes to a clock shape
>and nothing else happens. I have to Ctrl-Esc to get the mouse pointer
>back to an arrow, then Ctrl-click on the 'switch to another application'
>icon on the WarpCenter and kill the 'SYSINIT' task to bring my CPU
>activity back to normal.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas?

edit the win-os/2 properties for the seamless win-os2 icon,
then change the files= to 255.

regards,
- dink ( http://dink.org )




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From: jbbandos@hotmail.com                              22-Oct-99 00:19:20
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED by backing out

From: jbbandos@hotmail.com (Jose' Bernardo Silva)

Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net> escreveu:

>Can't buy the swapper theory when my swap file is not on my boot driver
>and 100Mb+ is free.

Well, I haven't been able to locate the exact combination, but it happened
here
also. I have Process Commander (which doesn't work too well on FP12), Scitech
Display Doctor (at the time, beta 7) which is GRADD based, and when I applied
FP12 I started getting message boxes either on OS2.INI, OS2SYS.INI, or
NSCP.INI
not being written to disk. I have nearly 1Gb free on my swap partition, swap
never grew past 48Mb during the time (it does sometimes), and I have about
450Mb
free on my boot drive. Ah, and 128Mb RAM. I had to backout of FP12 to get some
stability back to my system... After backing out to FP11 those message boxes
never appeared again. So, it might really be a bug in FP12

--
If replying by email, please remove the !no!spam part of my
address. I am tired of email spams...

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From: z1002002001@my-deja.com                           22-Oct-99 01:14:01
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: How do I? ESS1688 Sound Card

From: z1002002001@my-deja.com

Over in comp.os.os2.bugs some people are complaining about this
problem. I applied FP10 to an unserviced Warp 4 with ESS1688 drivers,
and sure enough, the trap 000D happens. Installing drivers from the DD
pak online doesn't change a thing.

Is there a fixpak that gives Y2K readiness without kakking the audio?

andrew

> I upgraded my system to FP11 and received a trap error on reboot.
> A very nice OS2 user named Trevor advised FP11 and FP12 broke
> compatibility with the ESS sound cards and to get my desktop back
> I should REM out the config.sys lines for the ESS driver.

> So I'm wondering if anyone has experiened this FP11 or FP12 ESS trap
> problem and if they were able to find a work-around, other than
buying
> a new compatible sound card.  I would appreciate it if only those who
> have actually experiened the problem and were able to fix it respond.


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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    21-Oct-99 19:02:16
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: FP12 & seamless Windows

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

... and if that doesn't work, search the OS/2 newsgroups for the same
question asked several times a month for the last year or so and try the
other suggestions.

Graham.

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From: sbogom@voicenet.com                               21-Oct-99 22:40:02
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: FP12 & seamless Windows - solution

From: Stuart Bogom <sbogom@voicenet.com>

Thank you - it worked!

dinkmeister wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:18:17 -0400, Stuart Bogom wrote:
>
> >I just upgraded from FP7 to FP12. Now I am having trouble with seamless
> >Win 3.1 sessions. I have no trouble starting a full screen Win3.1
> >session, and sometimes I can start a seamless Windows command prompt
> >(OS/2 System>Command Prompts>Win OS/2 Window). But I can't start a
> >seamless session from a WPS icon. When I try, I get some disk activity,
> >then the CPU meter goes to 100%, the mouse pointer goes to a clock shape
> >and nothing else happens. I have to Ctrl-Esc to get the mouse pointer
> >back to an arrow, then Ctrl-click on the 'switch to another application'
> >icon on the WarpCenter and kill the 'SYSINIT' task to bring my CPU
> >activity back to normal.
> >
> >Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> edit the win-os/2 properties for the seamless win-os2 icon,
> then change the files= to 255.
>
> regards,
> - dink ( http://dink.org )

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From: Spammers@Bite.Me                                  22-Oct-99 03:22:03
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: NS/2 4.61 Address Book

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>

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Nothing happened.  Has anyone else tried this?  Did you get it to work?  How?


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    22-Oct-99 03:25:25
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: FP12 & seamless Windows

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <380F4AD9.9730ED64@voicenet.com>,
  Stuart Bogom <sbogom@voicenet.com> wrote:
> I just upgraded from FP7 to FP12. Now I am having
trouble with seamless
> Win 3.1 sessions.
        <<<snip>>>

I'm on FP12 & I haven't had trouble with seamless
Win-OS/2 sessions since . . . well, several Fix Packs
back.  I regularly run the Windows 3.1 Real Player
5.0 to listen to Montréal Canadiens radio broadcasts
from CKAC AM.  I also look at the video clips from
hockey games at the ESPN web site using the same
thing & the 16-bit Windows plugin with Communicator
4.61.  It works fine.  On a hunch, I'm posting my
Win-OS/2 settings from my Real Player.  I generated
the following file by going into the Properties
Notebook, opening up the Win-OS/2 Properties dialog,
and using the Print button to save these settings to
a file.  You could cut/paste from this Usenet post
into a file on your system & use the Load button in
your Properties Notebook to steal my settings.  Maybe
they'll work, maybe not.  (You might have to change
the DOS_AUTOEXEC, DOS_DEVICE, & DOS_SHELL settings.
Also, I have SIO with my modem on COM2, so you may
need to adjust those settings for your system as
well.)  It's just a hunch......

s=DCF
i=Real Player
5.0 - Settings
p=WIN_RUN_MODE
t=5
v=321  3.1 Enhanced Compatibility
d=1  On

p=WIN_DDE
t=5
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=WIN_CLIPBOARD
t=5
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=WIN_ATM
t=0
v=1  On
d=0  Off

p=AUDIO_ADAPTER_SHARING
t=2
v=Required
d=1  On

p=DOS_AUTOEXEC
t=3
v=F:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
d=1  On

p=DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=DOS_BREAK
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=DOS_DEVICE
t=4
v=F:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS
d=1  On

p=DOS_FCBS
t=1
v=16
d=1  On

p=DOS_FCBS_KEEP
t=1
v=8
d=1  On

p=DOS_FILES
t=1
v=20
d=1  On

p=DOS_HIGH
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=DOS_LASTDRIVE
t=3
v=Z
d=1  On

p=DOS_RMSIZE
t=1
v=640
d=1  On

p=DOS_SHELL
t=3
v=F:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM F:\OS2\MDOS
d=1  On

p=DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE
t=3
v=
d=1  On

p=DOS_UMB
t=0
v=1  On
d=0  Off

p=DOS_VERSION
t=4
v=DCJSS02.EXE,3,40,255
v=DFIA0MOD.SYS,3,40,255
v=DXMA0MOD.SYS,3,40,255
v=EXCEL.EXE,10,10,4
v=IBMCACHE.COM,3,40,255
v=IBMCACHE.SYS,3,40,255
v=ISAM.EXE,3,40,255
v=ISAM2.EXE,3,40,255
v=ISQL.EXE,3,40,255
v=MSD.EXE,5,00,255
v=NET3.COM,3,40,255
v=NETX.COM,4,00,255
v=NETX.EXE,5,00,255
v=PSCPG.COM,3,40,255
v=SAF.EXE,3,40,255
v=WIN200.BIN,10,10,4
d=1  On

p=DPMI_DOS_API
t=2
v=AUTO
d=1  On

p=DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT
t=1
v=64
d=0  Off

p=DPMI_NETWORK_BUFF_SIZE
t=1
v=8
d=1  On

p=EMS_FRAME_LOCATION
t=2
v=AUTO
d=1  On

p=EMS_HIGH_OS_MAP_REGION
t=1
v=0
d=1  On

p=EMS_LOW_OS_MAP_REGION
t=1
v=384
d=1  On

p=EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT
t=1
v=2048
d=1  On

p=HW_NOSOUND
t=0
v=0  Off
d=1  On

p=HW_ROM_TO_RAM
t=0
v=0  Off
d=1  On

p=HW_TIMER
t=0
v=1  On
d=0  Off

p=IDLE_SECONDS
t=1
v=0
d=1  On

p=IDLE_SENSITIVITY
t=1
v=75
d=1  On

p=INT_DURING_IO
t=0
v=1  On
d=0  Off

p=KBD_ALTHOME_BYPASS
t=0
v=0  Off
d=1  On

p=KBD_BUFFER_EXTEND
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=KBD_CTRL_BYPASS
t=2
v=NONE
d=1  On

p=KBD_RATE_LOCK
t=0
v=0  Off
d=1  On

p=MEM_EXCLUDE_REGIONS
t=3
v=
d=1  On

p=MEM_INCLUDE_REGIONS
t=3
v=
d=1  On

p=MOUSE_EXCLUSIVE_ACCESS
t=0
v=1  On
d=0  Off

p=PRINT_SEPARATE_OUTPUT
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=PRINT_TIMEOUT
t=1
v=15
d=1  On

p=SESSION_PRIORITY
t=1
v=1
d=1  On

p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM1
t=0
v=0  Off
d=0  Off

p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM2
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM3
t=0
v=0  Off
d=0  Off

p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM4
t=0
v=0  Off
d=0  Off

p=SIO_Idle_Sensitivity
t=1
v=100
d=1  On

p=SIO_Mode_DTR
t=2
v=HandShake Signal, as in DTR/DSR
d=0  Off

p=SIO_Mode_FIFO_Load_Count
t=2
v=16
d=1  On

p=SIO_Mode_IDSR
t=2
v=Required for Valid Receive Data
d=0  Off

p=SIO_Mode_OCTS
t=2
v=HandShake Signal, as in RTS/CTS
d=1  On

p=SIO_Mode_ODSR
t=2
v=HandShake Signal, as in DTR/DSR
d=0  Off

p=SIO_Mode_RTS
t=2
v=HandShake Signal, as in RTS/CTS
d=1  On

p=SIO_Mode_XON/XOFF
t=2
v=No XON/XOFF flow control by SIO
d=1  On

p=SIO_Screen_Sync_Kludge
t=0
v=0  Off
d=1  On

p=SIO_Share_Access_With_OS/2
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=SIO_Virtualize_16550A
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=SIO_Virtualize_COM_Ports
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=VIDEO_8514A_XGA_IOTRAP
t=0
v=0  Off
d=0  Off

p=VIDEO_FASTPASTE
t=0
v=1  On
d=0  Off

p=VIDEO_MODE_RESTRICTION
t=2
v=NONE
d=1  On

p=VIDEO_ONDEMAND_MEMORY
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=VIDEO_RETRACE_EMULATION
t=0
v=1  On
d=0  Off

p=VIDEO_ROM_EMULATION
t=0
v=1  On
d=1  On

p=VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION
t=0
v=1  On
d=0  Off

p=VIDEO_WINDOW_REFRESH
t=1
v=1
d=1  On

p=XMS_HANDLES
t=1
v=32
d=1  On

p=XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT
t=1
v=2048
d=1  On

p=XMS_MINIMUM_HMA
t=1
v=0
d=1  On

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: mmcclelland@delphi.com                            21-Oct-99 20:52:18
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: Mark McClelland <mmcclelland@delphi.com>

Try using different versions of UJFS.DLL (I think that's the name.)
That's where all of the JFS CHKDSK code resides, I think. BTW, I have a
system that's identical to yours, except that I only have 1 processor in
it, and I'm trying to decide if I should add another one. Does SMP work
well on it? Is it noticably faster than a single processor system?

Yuri Dario wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> yesterday I lost my JFS partition from my WarpServer for Ebusiness PC.
> Now chkdsk is unable to restore the partition because it is quitting
> during step 3
> 
> E:\>chkdsk F: /f
> The current hard disk drive is: F:
> The type of file system for the disk is JFS.
> The JFS file system program has been started.
> CHKDSK  Block size in bytes:  4096
> CHKDSK  File system size in blocks:  1048233
> CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
> CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory
> Entries
> CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links
> CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory
> Tree
>     ....|....
> E:\>
> 
> I were using the JFS.IFS fixed when the partition got corrupted. I
> tried also using the old JFS.IFS but it has the same problem.
> The partition data should be still good, because steps 1 and 2 can be
> completed.
> 
> My pc is a dual P3/450, 256MB, supermicro P6DBU with IBM 9.1scsi U2W.
> 
> I need some help to reset the dirty flag on JFS, because I need to
> extract at least a few missing files from tapes.
> 
> Can you help me?
> 
> Bye,
> 
>         Yuri Dario
> 
> /*
>  * member of TeamOS/2 - Italy
>  * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri
>  */

-- 
Mark McClelland
mmcclelland@delphi.com
Get paid to surf the web! Visit to www.easydough.com for more info.

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From: godfrey@isl.stanford.edu                          22-Oct-99 05:31:06
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:02
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: godfrey@isl.stanford.edu

In <380FDF85.2352E25@delphi.com>, Mark McClelland <mmcclelland@delphi.com>
writes:
>Try using different versions of UJFS.DLL (I think that's the name.)
It may be too late, but you might try the updated JFS which you
can download from 
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4.5warp/
This is claimed to fix some serious problems in WSEB JFS.

>Yuri Dario wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> yesterday I lost my JFS partition from my WarpServer for Ebusiness PC.
>> Now chkdsk is unable to restore the partition because it is quitting
>> during step 3
>> 
>> E:\>chkdsk F: /f
>> The current hard disk drive is: F:
>> The type of file system for the disk is JFS.
>> The JFS file system program has been started.
>> CHKDSK  Block size in bytes:  4096
>> CHKDSK  File system size in blocks:  1048233
>> CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
>> CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory
>> Entries
>> CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links
>> CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory
>> Tree
>>     ....|....
>> E:\>
>> 
>> I were using the JFS.IFS fixed when the partition got corrupted. I
>> tried also using the old JFS.IFS but it has the same problem.
>> The partition data should be still good, because steps 1 and 2 can be
>> completed.
>> 
>> My pc is a dual P3/450, 256MB, supermicro P6DBU with IBM 9.1scsi U2W.
>> 
>> I need some help to reset the dirty flag on JFS, because I need to
>> extract at least a few missing files from tapes.
>> 
>> Can you help me?
>> 
>> Bye,
>> 
>>         Yuri Dario
>> 
>> /*
>>  * member of TeamOS/2 - Italy
>>  * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri
>>  */
>
>-- 
>Mark McClelland
>mmcclelland@delphi.com
>Get paid to surf the web! Visit to www.easydough.com for more info.

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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             22-Oct-99 08:26:23
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12?

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:34:14, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
wrote:

> In article
> <Ej0w7lFo08Zw-pn2-jjKSUgyP6RXd@saturn.dwparsons.diali
> n.t-online.de>,
>   dwparsons@t-online.de wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently ungraded one of my computers, which can
> dual boot
> > between OS/2 and NT4, from FP8 to FP12. Yesterday I
> booted to
> > NT for the first time since the upgrade and I find
> that I can
> > nolonger see my HPFS partitions from NT.
> > I have PINBALL.SYS installed on NT and all the HPFS
> partitions
> > were there last time I booted to NT.
> >
> > Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12
> can see HPFS
> > partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 &
> FP12 that
> > stops it working?
> > I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I
> wouldn't really
> > expect to since it is not really supported.
> 
> I doubt whether the Fix Pack level of OS/2 matters in
> the slightest to whether PINBALL.SYS can see your
> HPFS partitions, since you're --> IN NT <-- when
> you're accessing your HPFS partitions.  OS/2 isn't
> active so its Fix Pack level must be irrelevant.  I
> should think whatever is wrong is entirely on the NT
> side.
> 

   < snip >

> 
> And my WARP4 is at FP12, although this was working at
> FP11 & perhaps FP10.  I don't recall what was current
> this past May.  But like I say, I should think the
> Fix Pack level on OS/2 is irrelevant.
> 
> WW
> Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!

Thanks for the response, & also Uli. 
I think that confirms my own suspicions as I did consider it
to be a long shot but they might have changed the id somehow,
intentionally or not and unlikely.
The problem is that it used to work and now it doesn't and I had
not made any changes to the NT side.
I don't use NT much either so I can't remember exactly when it
stopped working. I only changes that I have made recently have
been to OS/2, hence the concern.

Anyway, it looks as though something is broken on the NT side
so I'll have to double check again, (or is it triple check) and try
to find out what has changed.

I had already tried to reinstall the support, using the same script
as originally, before my first post, but no luck.

The last changes I made to the NT side were to move all partitions
due to adding a new disk and installing Word97. But that was a 
long time ago and I'm 99.9% sure that it has worked since then.

Oh well, it looks like another busy weekend ahead:-)

Cheers,
-- 
Dave

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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         21-Oct-99 17:53:27
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: Workplace shell bugs

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

On 20 Oct 1999 18:47:35 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:

:>Item 2 isn't a bug, it's a very poorly implemented feature.  D&D for
:>exe's and cmd's should produce a *program object*, not a shadow.  Look
:>at the resulting object's notebook:  there should not be a 'File' tab.

In the Workplace settings there is a page Desktop with Default drop
operation.
You can choose Create Shadow or Move. I did select MOVE.
That should enable the Warp 3 behaviour but it does not. It creates a shadow
for *.exe and *.cmd files.
To me, that is a bug. Or am I reading the screen wrong?

Arjen



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From: mc6530@mclink.it                                  22-Oct-99 07:28:11
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: mc6530@mclink.it (Yuri Dario)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:52:37, Mark McClelland <mmcclelland@delphi.com>
wrote:

> Try using different versions of UJFS.DLL (I think that's the name.)
> That's where all of the JFS CHKDSK code resides, I think. 

ok, but where can I get such file? it is not included with the JFS fix
that IBM posted a couple of months ago.

>Does SMP work
> well on it? Is it noticably faster than a single processor system?

noticably faster when you run multiple process that needs a lot of 
CPU. Otherwise for standard work it didn't make a great difference: 
but before I was running a single P200, so now I have got an 
incredible cpu power and I can't compare then properly.

Bye,

	Yuri Dario

/*
 * member of TeamOS/2 - Italy
 * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri
 */

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From: cecilio@cesser.com                                20-Oct-99 09:20:09
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Need Help please!!!

From: "Cecilio Mendez" <cecilio@cesser.com>

Sorry by my English.
I have a serious problem with a Os2 Warp 3. It is the third time that when
boot  the system display this message "The line Set runwork place in
config.sys can´t begin" and the system hangs. I have to format the hard disk
and install os2 and tcpip, but two weeks later happen another time.





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From: jim.backus@gecm.com                               22-Oct-99 10:02:06
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:21
Subj: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem

From: Jim Backus <jim.backus@gecm.com>

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IIRC there was a problem with the new CHKDSK that was introduced in Warp
FP5 that could affect SCSI HDs if they were set up in a particular way. 
SCSI HDs can be set up with or without an equivalent of LBA.  I believe
that if the SCSI HD has been set up not to use "LBA" CHKDSK32 has
problems. 

Can anyone confirm that this is the case?

Has this bug been fixed in more recent FPs?

My PCs are normally left running and there was a power cut yesterday -
my repair actions have left me feeling rather vulnerable.  When I
originally built the PC, I chose the non "LBA" option which I assume
applies to all the SCSI disks.  The PC has 2 SCSI HDs with C:, D: E: &
F: on the first disk (2GB) and G:, H: & I: on the second (4.3GB). 
Partitions C & D are FAT and are irrelevant to the remainder of this
posting.  Warp 4 FP6 is installed on E: and Warp 4 base was on G: as a
maintenance partition.  

Firstly I rebooted to G: which caused "old" CHKDSK to run and clean E:
and F: - I then ran CHKDSK a couple more times to ensure that there were
no problems but kept getting errors.  It was then that I decided to
apply FP6 to G:.  Whilst re-running CHKDSK in the hope of clearing
apparent file system problems the system hung but did respond to a
Ctrl-Alt-Del.  I now have a system with a unusable version of CHKDSK,
but have managed to "repair" the machine using the utility disks plus
the files necessary to run "old" CHKDSK.  Incidentally "old" CHKDSK
seems incapable of working on the partitions on the 4.3GB drive - could
this be a remnant of the large HD problem?

FWIW the files needed to run old CHKDSK are:

CHKDSK.COM
VIOCALLS.DLL
NLS.DLL
IFSHPFS.DLL
(these from memory and may not be the exact filenames)

Ultimately it is my intention to rebuild this PC with the "LBA" option
but until then I'd like the security of being able to run CHKDSK.

Can anyone give any helpful advice or comments?
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From: cecilio@cesser.com                                20-Oct-99 10:16:06
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:21
Subj: RE: IE4 16 bit for Win31

From: "Cecilio Mendez" <cecilio@cesser.com>

Prueba



Mirco Miranda <mirco.miranda@tin.it> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
37FD9ACA.9BCD7017@tin.it...
> Rob Burton wrote:
>
> > Does the setup program refuse to run, giving a message that it needs
"more
> > than 4 MB of space"? It's the way Microsoft lies, instead of saying, "we
> > don't want it to run in win-os2" that bugs me. Sneaks.
> >
> > On Thu, 07 Oct 1999 12:02:14 +0200, Mirco Miranda wrote:
> >
> > |I can't install MSIE4 16 bit in Win-OS2
> > |Can you help me!
> > |
> > |On win 3.1 under MS-DOS it works!
> > |
> > |Thanks, Mirco
> > |
>
> The error is "I don't find the MS IE Disk..."; but under DOS (and win31)
it
> Works!!!!
> One People say me that it works under WinOS2 : run setup and it works....
>


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From: csaba.raduly@sophos.com                           22-Oct-99 11:14:27
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:22
Subj: Re: FP12 & seamless Windows

From: Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com>

Stuart Bogom wrote:
> 
> I just upgraded from FP7 to FP12. Now I am having trouble with seamless
> Win 3.1 sessions. I have no trouble starting a full screen Win3.1
> session, and sometimes I can start a seamless Windows command prompt
> (OS/2 System>Command Prompts>Win OS/2 Window). But I can't start a
> seamless session from a WPS icon. When I try, I get some disk activity,
> then the CPU meter goes to 100%, the mouse pointer goes to a clock shape
> and nothing else happens. I have to Ctrl-Esc to get the mouse pointer
> back to an arrow, then Ctrl-click on the 'switch to another application'
> icon on the WarpCenter and kill the 'SYSINIT' task to bring my CPU
> activity back to normal.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Stuart Bogom

Make sure you have WIN_ATM set to On
(Properties->Session->Win-OS/2 Properties, 
Win-OS/2 settings radiobutton)

I had the same problem for months. The above change cured it.
Csaba
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           22-Oct-99 08:30:09
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:25
Subj: Re: Need Help please!!!

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <7ujqc4$b88$1@diana.bcn.ttd.net>, on 10/20/99 at 09:20 AM,
   "Cecilio Mendez" <cecilio@cesser.com> said:

> Sorry by my English.
> I have a serious problem with a Os2 Warp 3. It is the third time that
> when boot  the system display this message "The line Set runwork place
> in config.sys can t begin" and the system hangs. I have to format the
> hard disk and install os2 and tcpip, but two weeks later happen another
> time.

When this happens, boot OS/2 from floppy and run chkdsk /f on the Warp
partition. It sounds like you are not clearing the cache and or
swapper.dat when shutting down.





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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                22-Oct-99 11:17:19
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: Need Help please!!!

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> said:
>> when boot  the system display this message "The line Set runwork place
>> in config.sys can t begin" and the system hangs. I have to format the
>> hard disk and install os2 and tcpip, but two weeks later happen another
>> time.

>When this happens, boot OS/2 from floppy and run chkdsk /f on the Warp
>partition. It sounds like you are not clearing the cache and or swapper.dat
>when shutting down.

And be sure to do a safe shutdown.
Jim L
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From: yourself@127.0.0.1                                22-Oct-99 14:51:05
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: Workplace shell bugs

From: yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:53:54, "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>
wrote:

> On 20 Oct 1999 18:47:35 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote:
> 
> :>Item 2 isn't a bug, it's a very poorly implemented feature.  D&D for
> :>exe's and cmd's should produce a *program object*, not a shadow.  Look
> :>at the resulting object's notebook:  there should not be a 'File' tab.
> 
> In the Workplace settings there is a page Desktop with Default drop
> operation.
> You can choose Create Shadow or Move. I did select MOVE.
> That should enable the Warp 3 behaviour but it does not. It creates a shadow
> for *.exe and *.cmd files.
> To me, that is a bug. Or am I reading the screen wrong?

On my system (Warp4, FP7, OD 1.5 without folder enhancements), cmd files
always obey the Desktop settings, while exe files *never* obey them.

I found I was wrong about cmd files in my earlier response, so I did
some more extensive testing.   This table identifies what happens 
when I drag one or more files and drop them without pressing any keys:

File(s) dragged    Desktop           other folders
---------------    --------------    --------------
exe's only         pgm object        pgm object

exe's & other
files combined     move or shadow    move

cmd file(s)        move or shadow    move

If you don't get these results, you should examine any WPS add-ons
you may be using to see if they are modifying the WPS's normal
operation.  As always, you can press Shift or Ctrl to force a
move or copy operation.


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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           22-Oct-99 10:49:23
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: NS/2 4.61 Address Book

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Trey renaming the exported file to a .4LD rather than .LDI and then importing.

The file netscape actually writes is an LDIF 4 file, not LDIF.

This workaround is actually documented in the Netscape Communicator for
Windows
Release Notes.

Mike Kaply
IBM


"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:

>I tried exporting my Netscape address book from WinNT (Communicator 4.61) and
>importing the LDIF file into Communicator 4.61 under OS/2.  It didn't work.
>Nothing happened.  Has anyone else tried this?  Did you get it to work?  How?
>
>Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
>

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