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From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu                        15-Oct-99 19:08:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: Help! Candy Barz killed my desktop

From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu (Richard Bumby)

bmwz3@NO_SPAM.home.com (Ronny Hippler) writes:

>	Tried out the latest Candy barz and noticed it had a few glitches 
>so I went to uninstall it (which is too bad I did like the effects) 
>and it locked my machine. upon reboot I got the dreaded "couldn't 
>find a desk top creating temporary blah blah blah" mesage. Well I 
>dug out a semi old but not too dated back up and restored my 
>previous ini files. Well thing were still really hosed most of the 
>objects were gone. So I ran checkini and it got me back to almost 
>normal. the main glitches are:

I guess I won't try the new version of CandyBarz.  I used an older one
for a while, but it didn't seem to get along with my configuration of
Object Desktop, so I dropped it.

The temporary desktop problem is annoying, but not a real disaster.
You can live with it for a while and try some of the fixes that have
been posted.  To use the little command line window in the middle of
your temporary desktop, you need to know the name of the program you
want.  Although you don't have the WPS, you have a fully capable PM
session (or so it seems to me).  Unfortunately, none of the easy fixes
seemed to work for me, and I have always needed to go back to a recent
backup.  I always have one since I use UniMaint.

>1. a ghost drive showing up as a network drive that can't be 
>deleted. 

I have no network, and have never seen the system try to create a
drive on one.  I do have some old desktops that were annoying.  I
could delete most of them, but not their template folders.

>2. when I click on  the "create another" option I get "folder" about
>six times and "new folder" 2-3 times as choices. 

This was enough of a problem that UniMaint included a way to clear it
up.  I haven't had the problem since there was an easy way to get rid
of it.  Maybe IBM fixed it in one of the fixpaks.  

>3. the mm volume controll no longer has an object ID 

You should be able to recreate it with REXX, but I have never needed
that feature so I can't give the details.

>any help would be appreciated. 

Hang in a little longer, someone is sure to fill in the gaps in my
response.
-- 
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From: Cygnus@unimatrix.com                              15-Oct-99 23:00:04
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: FP12 broke EPM?? (I think)

From: Cygnus@unimatrix.com

Whenever I try to do anything in EPM besides typing, which means
selecting a menu item, pushing a button, or using a keyboard
accelerator, EPM simply exits. As best as I can remember, it
worked under FP11, and this is the first time I've tried it
under FP12, so I'm guessing this is the problem. I tried
unzipping the entire EPM download into its own directory,
setting PATH, EPMPATH, and BEGINLIBPATH to nothing, and running
it from that directory, but I get the same results. Does anyone
know what's going on?

Ron Blatt


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: DAMNSPAMMERSks@karicobs.com                       15-Oct-99 23:31:04
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Norton Backup v1

From: DAMNSPAMMERSks@karicobs.com (ks@karicobs.com)

I need to restore the contents of a 1.44 floppy, which was created 
apparently with Norton v.1.

Anyone have suggestions as to what might do it?

 KS


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From: plunket@eidetic.com                               15-Oct-99 16:35:03
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Tom Plunket <plunket@eidetic.com>

Bones wrote:

> I currently run Win98 on a stand alone system at home. I have 128mgs of RAM
> and it's a P3 550. I want to switch to a more powerful operating system. I
> have used NT before and liked it, but I have been reading a lot about OS2
> and Linux recently.

Stick with Win98, you'll be happier.  On the hardware that you
have you'll realize more speed in '98 than NT, and more
application support than any of the other operating systems.  The
only reason to switch would be because you need something that
one of the other operating systems has that you need, and as you
don't seem to know what the other OSes have, you obviously don't
need their distinctions!

If you're looking for a fun learning project get Linux.
Otherwise, screw it and stick with '98.


-tom!

-- 
Tom Plunket                                        plunket@eidetic.com
video game/3D Studio geek                       http://www.eidetic.com

          You seem familiar.  Have you been in Halas lately?

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From: plunket@eidetic.com                               15-Oct-99 16:36:18
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Tom Plunket <plunket@eidetic.com>

Richard Dakin wrote:

> OS/2 - Don't know, not enough experience
> WINNT - Very solid on my machines
> Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left foot

Obviously Richard doesn't have a lot of experience in software
development, as I would say that it's indeed Windows that caters
to 3 year old development teams:  Look, it's so pretty.  But does
it work?  Sometimes!


-tom!

-- 
Tom Plunket                                        plunket@eidetic.com
video game/3D Studio geek                       http://www.eidetic.com

              The best tagline is the one that you steal.

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 15-Oct-99 23:27:01
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <38077E25.6674@erols.com>, Ron Vopicka <cvopicka@erols.com> writes:
>On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:26:22, maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff) 
>wrote:
>
>> Basically, IBM couldn't manage to market a hooker in a prisoner of war
>> camp.
>>  
>
>Not after they realized they could market a whole network of them at the
>Officer's Club.  Go where the money is!
>
>Ron


ah, a fallacy ! Officers have wives and mortgages and college education
funds for the kids : enlisted men have cash and animal lusts.

--
H„rad ’ngravv†rd

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From: mcbrides@erols.com                                15-Oct-99 19:00:23
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride)

In article <7u6j45$7b$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, mike@lionsgate.com wrote:
>As I was driving home today, I was thinking about all the
>technology that IBM has done that the marketing department has
>really screwed up.  I came up with these 4 examples....
>
>Do any of you out there know of others?
>
>Microchannel  Far ahead of the ISA buss, as well as the EISA
>buss, and only matched today with the PCI Buss.
>
>MWave         Really an engineering and software marvel. Actead
>as a sound card, and a Modeom at 33600
>
>Token Ring Lan Adapter  Only today with switching hubs can
>Ethernet match what Token ring did 10 years ago!
>
>OS/2.         Far ahead of Windows even today.
>

That's the ones I could think of... you could add in OS/2 on PPC...

>How long will it take Gerstner to realise that IBM's technical
>prowess is second to none?  The IBM marketing dept has screwed
>up more times than any other company in any industry.  It is
>only the inertia of such a large company that they can continue,
>blind to the fact that they cannot market their way out of a wet
>paper bag!  Now IBM is considering slicing off all desktop PC
>production to Dell and Acer.....  however it is not the hardware
>division of IBM that is at fault but rather the marketing dept.
>In a few years IBM will be strictly a service company and no
>longer an innovative computer company.  Has anyone ever sent a
>message like this to Gerstner?
>
>No other company in the computer business has blown the
>marketing sooo badly.  Surely this must be on the minds of a few
>IBMers?
>

My opinion of IBM's advertizing group is...

They couldn't sell a hoagie to a starving man... But they would make money
burying the guy... After all... their services are great.


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From: dink@dont.spam.me                                 15-Oct-99 20:34:08
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me>

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:00:51 -0400, Brad BARCLAY wrote:

:	99% of the time this error is displayed because you are running out of
:disk space on the drive containing the INI file in question, and there
:is insufficient space to write the data safely to disk.
:
:	Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a smaller
:size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during the normal
:timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up again, move
:either your swapper to a different drive (if it isn't on a different
:drive/partition already), remove unused files/applications, or move your
:INI files to a different drive/partition with lots of available free
:space.

I had the same problem, I havn't seen this error on YEARS..
I get the error (sometimes its for C:\OS2\OS2.INI, others its
OS2SYS.INI).  Tons of free space, 70some megs of free ram,
Warp4 fixpak12..  It seems to happen after a few days of
uptime. It kinda seems to me like a bug in fixpak12 itself.. <g>

- dink ( http://dink.org )



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From: jr_fox@earthlink.net                              15-Oct-99 17:33:18
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers!

From: "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net>

Doug Bissett wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:11:53, rappleby@cadvision.com (Ray Appleby)
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm getting a little fed up with the SPAM that I get every day in my
> > mail box.  Everything from so-called "FREE" trips to pyramid schemes.
> >
> > I would like to begin replying to these SPAMMERS with a warning that
> > if I receive any more unsolicited mail from them that I will send
> > hundreds of replies in response until they remove me from their
> > mailing list.
> >
> > I use Post Road Mailer and I suppose you could probably accomplish
> > this with some of the features in the program but I am not a
> > programmer.  Is there any program available that will work with PRM to
> > do what I want?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Ray Appleby                     rappleby@cadvision.com
> > [Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.
> 
> I quit returning ANYTHING (even Remove requests) to the SPAMMERS. All
> it seems to do, is CONFIRM that they have a real , live, address, so
> they can add your name to more SPAM lists. I just set up a filter. If
> the mail isn't addressed, specifically, to me, it goes into a separate
> mail bin. Then I scan, real quick, to see if something slipped through
> that I really do want to keep, save that, and trash the rest.
> 
> If the SPAM is actually addressed to me, I try to send a note back to
> the webmaster of the domain that it came from. Sometimes that works.
> Of course, if it came from HOTMAIL (apparently owned by Microsoft),
> you are wasting your time.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

Hi -- 

I think it is Sundial (who put out Mesa, Clearlook, and other
OS/2 s/w) that is developing what promises to be an excellent
smart SPAM-filtering / processing applet, that will keep most
of this stuff from reaching you in the first place.  It learns,
too, so whatever may slip by today can be nailed tom'w.  They
have done a demo or two at our user group, getting feedback 
for improvements.  No idea when it will be released, but the
OS/2 platform will get it first !  Keep watching the skies.

<jf>

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          15-Oct-99 23:58:20
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <sngbkubgznvypbz.fjlshh0.pminews@news.otenet.gr>
	   fat_ox@hotmail.com "OS/2 Fan" writes:

> Try 2GBFIX.COM, it works OK for me.  I have added the line
> C:\OS2\MDOS\2gbfix.com
> to my autoexec.bat, placed the file in \os2\mdos, and all is
> well.  Look in Hobbes, it should be there.  Good luck!

And if you do try it, and if it solves any part of your problem,
do drop its author, Jon Hall, a thank-you note.  He told me that
mine was the first he had received.  Sad, huh?

BTW, I keep my copy out of the distributed system software.  Mine
lives in \UTILS.  But people's preferences vary.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                15-Oct-99 20:16:02
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Does anyone know if the Netscape 4.61 and Plugin Pack 3. files are
available on any other site that the IBM download site.  I keep
getting an "Internal Server Error" message there. 
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: jag12@_nospam_le.ac.uk                            15-Oct-99 16:02:16
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: Can't read a certain CD.

From: Dr J A Gow <jag12@_nospam_le.ac.uk>


Wayne Bickell wrote:

> I may be totally wrong as usual, but could it have anything to do
> with the "W" switch at the end of your statement for the CD drive.
>
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q /W

As far as I know the /W switch should be on the IFS
line, not the DMD line: viz

IFS=CDFS.IFS /V /Q

(the /V switch is just there because I like to see what
drivers are loading :) )

    John.

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              15-Oct-99 19:05:16
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: FP12 broke EPM?? (I think)

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

FP12 actually *fixed* EPM, so it definitely changed. You are apparently
not using the one supplied with Warp 4, so I suggest you check your PATH
and LIBPATH to make sure all of it is being loaded from the same place
and not half of the Warp 4 + FP12 supplied EPM and half of your
downloaded one.

Graham.

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                15-Oct-99 21:07:07
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Jan Swartling wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:53:14, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:
> 
> > OS/2 Fan wrote:
> > >
> > > I've never had the problem in any OS/2 native app except while trying
> > > to download using NS/2, but it'll allow you to proceed anyway.  Post
> > > what apps are giving you trouble and maybe other users will know how
> > > to help though.  Sorry.
> >
> > Partition Magic 3.0 will not install.  I get the message that there
> > is not enough disk space even though there's over 6GB free in the
> > partition I was trying to install to.
> > --
> > Dale Erwin
> > Dallas, Texas
> 
> Dale,
> 
> Isn't this another problem. Partition Magic v3 need a lot af free space in
> lower memory (conventional memory the 640 KB limit.)
> 
> Jan Swartling
>  Blue Soft
>  Sweden

I don't know if it does or not, but that should have anything to do
with the INSTALL process.  The error message received says Not Enough
DISK space.  I have heard people on here say that I need to create a
temporary file to use up the space so that my free space is within the
4.3 GB (now it sounds like maybe that threshold is 2GB???).

I have spent the past few days trying to do that, but that's a lot
of freaking of storage.  So far I'm up to about 1.5 GB used up with
about another 2.5 to 3 GB to go.

Someone mentioned that someone has written a REXX utility to create
such a temp file, but I haven't seen it.  Someone else said I should
point the swap file to that drive with an initial size to eat all 
that storage up, but when I tried that, the system gave me a message
at boot up that it was unable to use the specified directory and
that it would attempt to use C:\OS2\SYSTEM.  Of course my C: drive
wouldn't hold that much storage if nothing else was on it.  Talk 
about a system that crawled like a mosquito through molasses.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              15-Oct-99 19:08:07
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

IBM did not invent token ring. Every token ring device ever made had a
license fee on it which is one reason T-R was more expensive than
Ethernet.

Graham.

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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   15-Oct-99 22:06:18
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99 
   at 12:50 AM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:

>In <38056ddd$2$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net
>(Harry Travis) writes: >In <7tvfmn$e89$1@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net>, on
>10/12/99  >   at 02:13 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank
>McKenney) said: --snip--
>>>RMVIEW only reports back what Resource Manager-aware drivers report to
>>>it - a driver that doesn't tell the OS/2 Resource Manager that the
>>>driver plans to use (say) IRQ15 can still use the IRQ, but RMVIEW won't
>>>report it ("Hey!  Nobody told ME!").  Since RM was introduced in Warp
>>>(3.0), any pre-3.0 driver fits this description; unfortunately, I
>>>understand it's also true for some post-3.0 drivers (sigh).
>>
>>Not so.  RMVIEW does report it, but not with the /irq option, as it
>>would be reasonable to expect. Instead, try rmview /d  . Then search the
>>output for "irq", and I think every device claiming one  will show up.
>>Dunno why. ..

>Harry,

>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>see what you're talking about?

>          ST506/IDE Controller


<snip >



>Neither of these listings show my "NE2000 clone" LAN adapter using 
>IOA=0x300 and IRQ10.


>Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
>Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
>E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com
I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.

This from rmview /irq

RMVIEW: Physical view
  IRQ Level =  0  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    TIMER_CH_0 
  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    KBD_0 Keyboard
Controller
  IRQ Level =  2  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    PIC_1 
  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_1 Serial
Controller
  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_0 Serial
Controller
  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  FLOPPY_0 Floppy
Controller
  IRQ Level =  7  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  PARALLEL_0 Parallel
Port Adapter
  IRQ Level =  8  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    RTC 
  IRQ Level =  9  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    Crystal
Semiconductor Audio
  IRQ Level = 11  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = SHARED       AIC7870_0  Adaptec
AIC7870
  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    AUX_0 PS/2
Auxiliary Device Controller
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_0 ST506/IDE
Controller

Notice that IRQ 15 isn't shown. It has a cheapie symbios  isa scsi card
on it, assigned with a /override /irq=15 option. 

Here is some of the output from rmview /d


  IRQ Level =  2  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  0  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  8  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  7  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  IRQ Level =  9  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  IRQ Level = 11  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = SHARED       
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  

Above each of the lines in this excerpt are the gory details of the
device which claims the irq. 


Maybe this selective recovery is foiled by network cards. Haven't there
been numerous reports of challenges to OS/2 presented by some network
cards? 


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From: wishIcould@no.spam.for.me                         15-Oct-99 22:24:15
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: partition magic for os/2

From: "Daniel Enright" <wishIcould@no.spam.for.me>

hey guys,
	I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info on
buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an os/2
executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?
Daniel


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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      16-Oct-99 01:56:22
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: Gunzip for OS/2?

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <u8oge0ncpi.fsf@ehmgs2.et.tu-dresden.de>, Thomas Hoffmann
<hoffmann@ehmgs2.et.tu-dresden.de> writes:

>nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson) writes:
>
>> Actually, there's no need to make that extra copy of gzip.  Just
>> create a program object pointing to gzip.exe, with "-d" in the
>> parameters field and it will work just fine.  You can have other
>> program objects pointing to gzip.exe with other parameters (or no
>> parameters) if you wish.

>"It depends", I would say.  There are certain tasks that require to
>find "gunzip": some ported Unix apps, not to mention (auto)configuring
>Unix packages. (If you do not no these terms, then the above approach
>is sufficient for you.)

Sure, but a WPS program object is unlikely to be used in this 
way, but rather from the command line.  I just have an alias 
called "gunzip" that points to "gzip -d"

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell...               16-Oct-99 03:34:13
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net

From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)

In article <jvfuvpbhyqabfcnzsbezr.fjoc0v0.pminews@news.sprint.ca>,
	"Daniel Enright" <wishIcould@no.spam.for.me> writes:
> hey guys,
> 	I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info on
> buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an os/2
> executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?

Not AFAIK.  That shouldn't put you off buying version 4, though, for two
reasons:

1) Version 4 is, overall, better.  It includes support for more
   filesystems and larger hard disks.  (IIRC, PM 3 maxes out at 8GB, which
   is getting a bit tight these days.)
2) Version 4 includes everything you need to create a DOS boot floppy
   with the DOS version of the program, even from OS/2.  (There's a script
   file that does the trick from OS/2.)

There's really very little (probably no) reason to require an OS/2
executable for a utility like PM, so long as a means of running on a
system without Windows exists.

-- 
Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: wishIcould@no.spam.for.me                         15-Oct-99 23:53:01
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: "Daniel Enright" <wishIcould@no.spam.for.me>

thanks for the info, Rod.
daniel

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 03:34:26 GMT, Rod Smith wrote:

>In article <jvfuvpbhyqabfcnzsbezr.fjoc0v0.pminews@news.sprint.ca>,
>	"Daniel Enright" <wishIcould@no.spam.for.me> writes:
>> hey guys,
>> 	I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info on
>> buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an os/2
>> executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?
>
>Not AFAIK.  That shouldn't put you off buying version 4, though, for two
>reasons:
>
>1) Version 4 is, overall, better.  It includes support for more
>   filesystems and larger hard disks.  (IIRC, PM 3 maxes out at 8GB, which
>   is getting a bit tight these days.)
>2) Version 4 includes everything you need to create a DOS boot floppy
>   with the DOS version of the program, even from OS/2.  (There's a script
>   file that does the trick from OS/2.)
>
>There's really very little (probably no) reason to require an OS/2
>executable for a utility like PM, so long as a means of running on a
>system without Windows exists.
>
>-- 
>Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
>http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
>Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que



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From: see_URL_in.sig@end.to_mail_to.us                  16-Oct-99 04:37:23
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: see_URL_in.sig@end.to_mail_to.us (R L Samuell)

I  have a  five  year-old  PC which  has been  running Warp  3  without
fixpacks  for  much  of  that  time.   I  have  been  bothered  by  the
aforementioned problem  only in the last couple of years.  At the  same
time, I seem  to be  losing  more files to disk errors, too.  I usually
have plenty of disk space on the partition  when  the problem occurs so
insufficient space is not the cause.  I  have concluded  that the cause
is simply what the error message says--  a disk error.

Shutting down and rebooting usually  cures the condition.  But  when it
does not,  it  is  a  major  headache--   on one  occasion,  I  had  to
re-install OS/2.

Regards,


R L Samuell
--
       Web: http://samuell.lex.bluegrass.net/
     Email: http://samuell.lex.bluegrass.net/mailto
   ObQuote: "'Tolerance'-- a euphemism for 'moral indifference.'" -rl3s
 Copyright: (c) 1999 R L Samuell, All Rights Reserved.


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From: derwin@airmail.net                                15-Oct-99 23:12:20
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Rod Smith wrote:
> 
> In article <jvfuvpbhyqabfcnzsbezr.fjoc0v0.pminews@news.sprint.ca>,
>         "Daniel Enright" <wishIcould@no.spam.for.me> writes:
> > hey guys,
> >       I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info on
> > buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an os/2
> > executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?
> 
> Not AFAIK.  That shouldn't put you off buying version 4, though, for two
> reasons:
> 
> 1) Version 4 is, overall, better.  It includes support for more
>    filesystems and larger hard disks.  (IIRC, PM 3 maxes out at 8GB, which
>    is getting a bit tight these days.)
> 2) Version 4 includes everything you need to create a DOS boot floppy
>    with the DOS version of the program, even from OS/2.  (There's a script
>    file that does the trick from OS/2.)
> 
> There's really very little (probably no) reason to require an OS/2
> executable for a utility like PM, so long as a means of running on a
> system without Windows exists.

Then does PM v4 run in  WinOS2/VDM under OS/2?
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        16-Oct-99 06:47:00
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 05:17:17
Subj: Netscape Plug-ins

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

Can some point me to a guide to how Netscape plug-ins work?

I realise you need to copy a DLL from the plug-in to the directory :-

x:\netscape\PROGRAM\PLUGINS

But I can't work out how the DLL locates the associated executable,
such as acroread.exe for example. Do I need to set up an association
between the file type PDF and Acroread.exe to be able to use the Acrobat
plug-in?

I need to be able to install any plug-ins manually rather than using some
sort of flash 'wizard'.

--
John

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           16-Oct-99 13:41:13
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 10:34:11
Subj: OS2*.INI constantly updated after FP12 

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <qvaxqbagfcnzzr.fjo6x40.pminews@ftl.msen.com>, on 10/15/99 
   at 08:34 PM, "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me> said:

>:	Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a smaller
>:size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during the normal
>:timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up again, move
>:either your swapper to a different drive (if it isn't on a different
>:drive/partition already), remove unused files/applications, or move your
>:INI files to a different drive/partition with lots of available free
>:space.

>I had the same problem, I havn't seen this error on YEARS.. I get the
>error (sometimes its for C:\OS2\OS2.INI, others its OS2SYS.INI).  Tons
>of free space, 70some megs of free ram, Warp4 fixpak12..  It seems to
>happen after a few days of uptime. It kinda seems to me like a bug in
>fixpak12 itself.. <g>

I haven't seen this particular kind of error message on my Warp 4 FP12
machine (yet? :), but I am experiencing another INI-related oddity of
FP12. Now after I installed FP12, OS/2 seems to insist on updating
OS2*.INI files every 30 secs! This machine was suffering from this bug
(feature?) for years, you may search dejanews for treads on this topic.
However, before FP12 it was doing this once in every 3-5 min, which was
annoying but I kinda got used to live with it. Now it starts doing it
every 30 sec and that's really ridiculous! INI files updates are done in
cache write-through mode (e.g. always writing directly to disk) and WPS
is totally locked during this process, which takes about 6-10 sec each
time. What the hell is doing this to me???

I've read that IBM programmers have changed something called PMDF layer
(in kernel) of FP12 to the level compatible with WSeb kernel, which has
something to do with system error tracing. I do not use any of the Warp
fancy dump/trace/debug utilities, how to disable this darn thing?!! I
tried remming out anything that looks suspisious in my CONFIG.SYS but
that does not help. I am really stuck and thinking of reinstalling my
Warp partition from scratch, but this one is on my main production
server and it will take a lot of work and lots of inconvinience for my
clients and users...

If anybody at IBM is reading this - please, oh please help me! Scott?!!
Irv?!!

Cheers,
Ivan

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 16-Oct-99 10:17:13
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 10:34:11
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Andre van Dijk wrote:

<snip>

> >Come on... try OS/2... you'll be impressed.

OS/2 does have many tricks up the slieve!

<snip> 

> I tried recently, VMware crashed :-). But seriously, OS/2 is getting
> less software (Sad!) while Linux is getting more. What about BeOS??

Application-wise BeOS is not a pretty sight!
Globe though, is coming soon in a 2.0 version. (Globe you can
describe as an MS-Works+)!

The applications is feature poor but rock solid!

Oh- there are also many problems with hardware support! Only some
of the newest devices are supported!
Here you really have to be carefull! 

But it boots in only 20 secs! And is perhaps the popular OS today
that utilizes the hardware the best!

The system itself is perhaps the only one that is better than
OS/2, multitasking and multithreading wise and it is even more
object orientated than OS/2...IFAIK even supporting dynamic
drivers!

BTW: I do not think the software situation is desperate!
The weak hearted developers has already dropped off!
Some of them I am sad to miss, ex: Truespectra!
But the situation is quite stabile at the moment!
Small developers is defecting and new are arriving, such is life!

> Or try VMWare...

It works pretty well, but is quite hungry, ressource wise! And
remember it hogs any device it sees, when running Win98!
Also whatever runs inside WmWare is it its own little
world..there are no dataexchange!

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: bandyo@wam.umd.edu                                16-Oct-99 10:07:21
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu>

AFAIK PM v.4 does not run on Win-OS/2 VDM.  It creates a set of 
recovery disks that boots DOS and brings up the DOS version of PM v.4 
via autoexec.bat.  The OS/2 section points to a script that creates 
the recovery disks from the CD.

I upgraded from Partition Magic 2 to 4, a couple of months ago as I 
needed to resize partitions in my new 8.4 GB drive.

The creation of DOS boot disks set with the DOS version of PM v.4 was 
painless.  The dos version loads with a GUI and mouse support and has 
the feels of the windows version though the graphics is crude (who cares).

The DOS version worked great in general. Until I tried to move a HPFS 
partition that was big and partially filled.  The DOS version wouldn't 
move it.

So I bit the bullet and installed PM v.4 in the Win95 partition.  I 
keep it for situations like this.  The Win32 version agreed to move 
that partition but took a lot of swapping and grinding and time to 
move it.

The bottom line is, there are some situations the DOS version cannot 
handle and the Win32 version can.  Probably because Win95 can use swap 
file for memory.  So if you have a Windows free machine you may be 
stuck.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10-16-99, 3:12:41 AM, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote regarding 
Re: partition magic for os/2:


> Rod Smith wrote:
> >
> > In article <jvfuvpbhyqabfcnzsbezr.fjoc0v0.pminews@news.sprint.ca>,
> >         "Daniel Enright" <wishIcould@no.spam.for.me> writes:
> > > hey guys,
> > >       I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info 
on
> > > buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an 
os/2
> > > executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?
> >
> > Not AFAIK.  That shouldn't put you off buying version 4, though, for 
two
> > reasons:
> >
> > 1) Version 4 is, overall, better.  It includes support for more
> >    filesystems and larger hard disks.  (IIRC, PM 3 maxes out at 8GB, 
which
> >    is getting a bit tight these days.)
> > 2) Version 4 includes everything you need to create a DOS boot floppy
> >    with the DOS version of the program, even from OS/2.  (There's a 
script
> >    file that does the trick from OS/2.)
> >
> > There's really very little (probably no) reason to require an OS/2
> > executable for a utility like PM, so long as a means of running on a
> > system without Windows exists.

> Then does PM v4 run in  WinOS2/VDM under OS/2?
> --
> Dale Erwin
> Dallas, Texas
> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">



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From: kim@haverblad.com                                 16-Oct-99 16:36:21
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: "Kim Haverblad" <kim@haverblad.com>

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:26:22 GMT, Mark Klebanoff wrote:

>> No other company in the computer business has blown the
>> marketing sooo badly.  Surely this must be on the minds of a few
>> IBMers?
>> 
>> 
>
>Basically, IBM couldn't manage to market a hooker in a prisoner of war
>camp.

Even better, if IBM invented sushi. They would sell and marketing it as raw
dead fish. ;-)

//Kim


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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          16-Oct-99 14:58:15
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:24:31, "Daniel Enright" 
<wishIcould@no.spam.for.me> wrote:

:        I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info on
:buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an os/2
:executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?

 http://www.ebay.com

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               16-Oct-99 17:25:12
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>
> The previous poster's description of OS2.INI update algorithm was
> correct. OS2*.!!! are shown with zero size (by all usual system utils
> like CMD.EXE dir command) because they are constantly opened for writing
> and locked. This is a bug... err, feature of OS/2.

It IS a feature - using the file system to  update it would cost
performance.

Resetting the desktop may be a good choice. Killing it with Watchcat, for
instance, will cause ti to attempt to save the changes. So will performing a
regular shutdown after a time. I think the error message may have been
caused by a timeout because higher priority tasks have been using the disk.
This is liable to happenon single-disk systems, or on non-SCSI systems.
Usually, the situation is not dangerous. You will only risk losing changes
to icon and window positions since the last time it was saved. Run CheckIni
or somethinglike it to make sure that obsolete information gets deleted.


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               16-Oct-99 17:04:21
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Bones wrote:

> I currently run Win98 on a stand alone system at home. I have 128mgs of RAM
> and it's a P3 550. I want to switch to a more powerful operating system. I
> have used NT before and liked it, but I have been reading a lot about OS2
> and Linux recently.
>

Your hardware seems to need a better operating system than Win 9x to make
fulluse of it.

> ...
> 1) I am a fairly technically apt person, but I am not a technical
> professional. Which of these will probably be easiest to install?

That will depend on details in your configuration. Even the newest Linux
distributions are much more difficult to install than either OS/2 or NT, but
not worse than that most  experienced people manage if they read up on the
documentation before they start.

>
> 2) Regardless of which system I choose, will I need to reformat the hard
> drive first, or will if I choose NT will I be able to install on top of
> Win98?

It will always be easier to install on a clean disk. It is not generally
possible or adviceable to install NT over a Win 9x system. The problem with
Win
9x, is that it does not have any good and reliable file system.

>
> 3) Will OS2 and Linux run Window applications like MS Office, Quicken as
> well as lesser known applications?

No, the MS suites are more or less designed not to work under other operating
systems than Win 9x and NT. There are other programs which in many ways work
better, especially if you do not want to get infected by virus-like attacks.


>
> 4) Can OS2 and Linus rund new SCSI controllers, scanners, monitors, modems,
> network cards as easily as Microsoft?

OS/2 has the best SCSI support, especially in the high-performance area like
IIO. It is more restricted in the scanner and cheap modem area. Monitors are
not an issue.

NT and OS/2 are not geared towards low-end devices, and it is highly
adviceable
to use only SCSI disk drives with those systems. Linux has more leaning
towards
cheap hardware, but itcan be rather daunting to install support for some
hardware.

>
> 4) If I decide on NT, would I be better off waiting for Windows 2000?
>

Depends on your needs. It may be possible to get a free upgrade ifyou purchase
it now.
Thes eoperating systems are not really interchangeable. What is best for you
dependson what you will use it for.

OS/2 is by far the best desktop system, but NT has a good software selection
ifyou want picture manipulation or desktop publishing. OS/2 has a set of free
POSIX-style libraries (emx and gnu) which will let you use the same
applications as Linux, but then you will also have the same rather inelegant
installation job. It will probably get access to Win32 programs, but it is a
voulonteer project which may still take many months. It has the best Java
support, and a very good TCP/IP implementation.

NT has the best mainstream software selection, but is ironically enough not as
good as OS/2 at running old DOS and Windows 3.x programs. Java performance is
a
bit lackluster, but improving. TCP/IP support is quite good, but some of the
Internet software will not perform in a quite standard way unless you
reconfigure it. This is most noticeable with ISPs running NT. You will usually
need morepowerful hardware for a given performance with NT than with the
others.

Linux is ideal for those who like to really work on their operating system
rather than use it only as just a tool. A knowledgeable person can do more
tweaking than with the other systems. It is easier to use than a proper UNIX
system, but has a much higher threshold than OS/2 or NT. Java performance is
poor, but likely to see great improvements in the future. It is more a server
operating system than a desktop system, although it is fine for traditional
software development in c/c++. It can run on weaker hardware than the others
until you install the two different graphical environments you will probably
need.

I use OS/2 both as my primary desktop OS and as my main server OS, but I work
mostly with networking, standards-compliant Internet applications,
documentation,  heavy databases and software development in several languages.
It is not a very good choice for gamers or graphics artists.

I have used NT, but abandoned it because I do not need any software which is
only available on that platform. I have Red Hat Linux 6.0, but do not really
see it as ripe for general desktop usage.
It is, however, very nice to have it on an old PC in the network.


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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         16-Oct-99 15:42:03
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:01:06 +0200, F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
>Suddenly today I got this message:
[...]
>The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
>be written to disk. The updates are
[...]

>What is this? How can I correct this? Is it bad to shutdown before
>resolving the problem? What will happen then???

Are you using the GRADD drivers? I am, and every time I open a full-screen
DOS window I get a similar error (although with the OS2.INI file).

Warp 4, FP12, GRADD 0.80, S3 Virge 4MB Vid card, over 120 MeB's free on
my OS/2 boot/system drive (C:).

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      16-Oct-99 12:47:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <jvfuvpbhyqabfcnzsbezr.fjoc0v0.pminews@news.sprint.ca>, "Daniel Enright"
<wishIcould@no.spam.for.me> writes:

>	I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info on
>buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an os/2
>executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?

No; they haven't sold v3 since they released v4, over a year ago. 
Sometimes you can still find v3 available eg at SurplusDirect for
a substantial discount.

But the lack of native OS/2 executables hasn't been a serious 
impediment for me; v4 includes DOS executable and even an image 
of an OpenDOS boot diskette in case you don't have any bootable 
DOS diskettes of your own.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      16-Oct-99 12:48:23
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <DD2D5EB1A9D01A0F.C16BDEC06B7EB37C.5290DD1077163B26@lp.airnews.net>, Dale
Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> writes:

>Rod Smith wrote:
>
>> There's really very little (probably no) reason to require an OS/2
>> executable for a utility like PM, so long as a means of running on a
>> system without Windows exists.

>Then does PM v4 run in  WinOS2/VDM under OS/2?

No.  You have to boot to DOS to run the DOS executables.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: dunmunro@direct.ca                                16-Oct-99 18:16:21
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: Re: Help!  Can't create Utility Diskettes

From: dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro)

Just a suggestion, but you can create your own customized utility
diskettes using the bootos2 program. 

you can find bootos2 at:

hobbes.nmsu.edu

Duncan

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:42:10 -0700, Darryl Sperber
<sperber@airmail.net> wrote:

>
>I just installed an Adaptec 2940U2W, replacing the 2940UW I previously had.
>I've added a Western Digital 18300 LVD drive and needed the new card to
>support it.
>
>Simultaneously, I put in a Matrox G400 MAX (AGP) video card, replacing the
>Matrox Millennium (PCI) that's been serving me like a horse for 4 years.
>
>Seeing this as one of my occasional opportunities to "clean house" and
rebuild
>my Warp Connect and Warp 4 partitions, I first reinstalled Warp Connect from
>scratch.  Unfortunately, the 1994 Warp Connect system didn't recognize the
>card properly and showed "None" as the value in the SCSI Adapter field of the
>configuration screen early in the install.
>
>To be sure that the correct driver ended up in my system, I then updated
>Diskette 1 to have the actual AIC78U2.ADD on it and also updated the
>CONFIG.SYS on that diskette to name this driver instead of AIC7870.ADD.  And
>then I began the installation again.
>
>Even though there was still no adapter shown in the SCSI Adapter
configuration
>field, sure enough the installation process was smart enough to add
>AIC78U2.ADD to the root of the boot drive and also to name it in the
>constructed CONFIG.SYS of my final system.  I guess this kind of smartness
for
>unsupported hardware which has vendor-provided drivers is built into the
>installation process.
>
>For consistency, I've moved AIC78U2.ADD into \OS2\BOOT, although it ran just
>fine from its original location in the root directory on the boot drive. 
>
>In other words, the installation process completed perfectly.  And I can run
>my operational Warp Connect system just fine, even though the actual Warp
>Connect install didn't formally recognize the card.
>
>
>OK... next step was to apply the usual maintenance.  In this case I went as
>far as Fixpack 37.  And I installed the Matrox 2.31 drivers which support the
>G400 MAX.
>
>Sill no problems at all.
>
>
>Finally, it came time to build my Utility Diskettes.  And it was now that I
>unfortunately had a total failure!  
>
>Almost immediately upon starting the function, I'm getting an error message
>popup that says:
>
>	An error occurred while copying system files.
>	Utility disks cannot be created.
>
>And that's that!  No diskettes built.
>
>This is certainly not a diskette formatting issue... I've manually erased the
>contents of the diskettes.  It probably has something to do with the 2940U2W
>card, and is very likely a cousin of the original install problem where there
>was no official support in Warp Connect.
>
>And it's not that the floppy disk drive doesn't work... it works just fine. 
I
>can write to diskettes from other functions with no problem.  I'm sure it's
>specifically to do with whatever the Create Diskettes function is trying to
>copy FROM that is most likely the problem.
>
>Something is obviously not present in the source directories from which the
>diskettes are built.  I would have thought the files come from obvious
>directories in the operational system, but apparently not.
>
>
>So... my question... where, or for what, might the Create Diskette utility
>function be looking and which it cannot find, that prevents it from building
>my diskettes?  In other words, where should I also put AIC78U2.ADD where it
>can be found by this process?
>
>Fortunately, I have another set of diskettes that I can probably modify as I
>did for the original installation diskettes without actually building them
>from scratch.  But I'd sure like to have the system build me a fresh set as
>it's supposed to.
>
>
>Any tips or answers?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>--
>//
>//   Darryl Sperber  (sperber@airmail.net)
>//

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Oct-99 15:30:23
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:02
Subj: Re: Netscape Plug-ins

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
>Can some point me to a guide to how Netscape plug-ins work?

>I realise you need to copy a DLL from the plug-in to the directory :-

I assume you have the download: nspip30.exe.

Run it in a temporary directory.  It will unzip itself and you will find
INSTALL.EXE.  Run that.  You don't need to copy any DLL files.

Jim L
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Oct-99 15:39:18
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:02
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:
>Does anyone know if the Netscape 4.61 and Plugin Pack 3. files are available
on
>any other site that the IBM download site. 

Try:

http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html

Jim L
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From: rknebel@uplink.net                                16-Oct-99 14:52:00
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:02
Subj: Umax Astra 1220S scanner

From: "Rick Knebel" <rknebel@uplink.net>

Hi,
I am trying to use my Umax Astra 1220S scanner with the CFM tgwain drivers.
The program will not recognize my scanner.

It work fine with my other OS's just not with os2.

Could anyone help who is using this scanner.

Thanks



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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          16-Oct-99 17:08:20
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Tom Plunket <plunket@eidetic.com> wrote in message
news:VboHONaiBj72US+BBb4f44BmtBYz@4ax.com...
> Richard Dakin wrote:
>
> > OS/2 - Don't know, not enough experience
> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left
foot
>
> Obviously Richard doesn't have a lot of experience in software
> development, as I would say that it's indeed Windows that caters
> to 3 year old development teams:  Look, it's so pretty.  But does
> it work?  Sometimes!

You misread line 2 of my post.  Here it is again "WINNT - Very solid on my
machines".
No complaints here.


--
Richard Dakin

+++ No email please +++


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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              16-Oct-99 21:46:02
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: os2 as cleint to linux samba really slow compared to win95

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Sean Hennessy - Geishan wrote:
> 
> I'm in the act of setting up a small network (7 stations) to replace an
> os/2 peer server with linuxand samba.  The workstations are mainly os/2
> but with 2 win machines(1 95; 1 NT).
> 
> Problem.
> current access for a particular page:
>     using os/2 server = 3.5 secs - All machines
>     using Samba = 3 secs windows   = 22 secs OS/2
> 
> Now 22 secs is just a little bit on the slowwww side.
> 
> This reeks of an adjustment somewhere, but I'm just not cluey enough to
> know what it is.
> 

    Have you tried the Linux networking newsgroup(s)? They are a helpful
bunch.


-- 

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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            16-Oct-99 22:22:19
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <slrn80h7bh.98.blackdeath@blackdeath.pr1.on.wave.home.com>, on
10/16/1999 
   at 03:42 PM, blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger) said:

>>What is this? How can I correct this? Is it bad to shutdown before
>>resolving the problem? What will happen then???

>Are you using the GRADD drivers? I am, and every time I open a
>full-screen DOS window I get a similar error (although with the
>OS2.INI file).

>Warp 4, FP12, GRADD 0.80, S3 Virge 4MB Vid card, over 120 MeB's free
>on my OS/2 boot/system drive (C:).

Yes, I'm using Gradd 0.80 for Trio S3 since a few days........ but I
didn't open a....... well, I see, I HAD some problems with a WINOS2
app and reinstalled it using a fullscreen WINOS2 session. Yes, it WAS
the OS2.INI file.

Over 300MB free on the boor-drive.


Frits

-- 
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.66

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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            16-Oct-99 22:15:16
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <380787F3.2EED7819@ca.ibm.com>, on 10/15/1999 
   at 04:00 PM, Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> said:

>> >>> =================
>> >>> Disk Error
>> >>>
>> >>> The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
>> >>> be written to disk. The updates are
>> >>> being held to automatically retry the
>> >>> operation, but will be lost if the
>> >>> system is shutdown before correcting
>> >>> the problem.
>> >>> =================

>	99% of the time this error is displayed because you are running out
>of disk space on the drive containing the INI file in question, and
>there is insufficient space to write the data safely to disk.

Are you SURE 320MB of free space on the drive isn't enough for the
OS2.INI (which is normally about 0.1% of this??????

>	Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a
>smaller size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during
>the normal timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up

My SWAPPER of 290MB is not supposed to grow.....


Frits

-- 
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           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         16-Oct-99 21:27:19
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:22:38 +0200, F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
>>Warp 4, FP12, GRADD 0.80, S3 Virge 4MB Vid card, over 120 MeB's free
>>on my OS/2 boot/system drive (C:).
>
>Yes, I'm using Gradd 0.80 for Trio S3 since a few days........ but I
>didn't open a....... well, I see, I HAD some problems with a WINOS2
>app and reinstalled it using a fullscreen WINOS2 session. Yes, it WAS
>the OS2.INI file.

Yoink!

We've found the problem. GRADD's DOS support sucks for S3 cards.

My educated guess;

GRADD sucks up 100% of system resources when in full-screen DOS mode (which
is basicaly what Win-OS/2 is), thereby not allowing OS/2 to write its files.

When I get the error, I have to immediately switch back to the WPS and click
"OK", else if I wait, the error box will remain frozen on the screen and I
am forced to shut down to get rid of it.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            16-Oct-99 22:27:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <380898E0.B6FF2391@powertech.no>, on 10/16/1999 
   at 05:25 PM, Bj›rn Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no> said:

>Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>>
>> The previous poster's description of OS2.INI update algorithm was
>> correct. OS2*.!!! are shown with zero size (by all usual system utils
>> like CMD.EXE dir command) because they are constantly opened for writing
>> and locked. This is a bug... err, feature of OS/2.

>It IS a feature - using the file system to  update it would cost
>performance.

>Resetting the desktop may be a good choice. Killing it with Watchcat,
>for instance, will cause ti to attempt to save the changes. So will
>performing a regular shutdown after a time. I think the error message
>may have been caused by a timeout because higher priority tasks have
>been using the disk. This is liable to happenon single-disk systems,
>or on non-SCSI systems. Usually, the situation is not dangerous. You
>will only risk losing changes to icon and window positions since the
>last time it was saved. Run CheckIni or somethinglike it to make sure
>that obsolete information gets deleted.

I did run the CheckIni and everything went fine on reboot. Thanks for
your explanation.


Frits

-- 
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           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.66

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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               16-Oct-99 19:10:17
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Peter Moylan wrote:

> Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com> wrote:
> >>
> >They have to :-(
> >Some functions return -1 on failure instead of the file size.
>
> I'm very tempted to go into my standard explanation of why you
> shouldn't use C or C++ for real-world applications, but it's the
> wrong newsgroup for that.  Nevertheless ...
>

I am inclined to agree, but only to a certain extent. The real problem here is
that the c programmers use the compiler library functions instead of the
native
OS/2 API.
It supported the larger extension sizes even in the 1.x days, and  has a much
more
rational (and safe) mechanism for error codes.

As for old DOS (and therefore 16-bit Windows) programs, one cannot really
expectthem to support larger partitions than the OS was able to handle, but
that
is no excuse for using a signed number. The '-1' is only a shorthand notation
for
'FFFF'x or 'FFFFFFFF'x (depending on how farback we go), and is more a sign of
sloth than incompetence.

>
> My work-around is a little different: I use MAX(CARDINAL) (that is,
> the maximum unsigned value) as the special-case value.

...

>
> The C programmers could have done the same, of course, but the lax
> language rules never forced them to think about the issue.

That is, indeed, a serious flaw (and also a feature) with c. It is not the
real
cause of the problem, since assembler is even more lax. I remember how the
bug-density of much software increased dramatically when they changed from
assembler to c. The problem is in the more anarchistic outlook which came from 
the
early c culture. Assembler forced dicipline on any large project it wasused
in.
Besides, c is much easier to learn (after a fashion), so the average quality
of
the programmers declined. Of course, we NEED all the fair to good programmers
as
well as the small elite with the large amount of system-close programming that 
has
to be done today.

I think stricter and higher-level languages, like Modula and Pascal (and even
the
old standby COBOL) might have been better for user applications, but it looks
like
most software houses only want to have one hammer in their toolchest rather
than
select the one most suited for the job.

Hopefully, the trend towards Java will improvethis situation.


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               16-Oct-99 19:12:29
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Steve Myers wrote:

>
> The resolution is to used 2 gig partitions, though I doubt that's the
> answer you want to hear.
>

A good workaround is to use TVFS to create virtual partitions which the
offending programs canuse.


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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         16-Oct-99 21:25:03
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:08:40 +0100, Richard Dakin wrote:
>> > OS/2 - Don't know, not enough experience
>> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
>> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left
>foot

You appear to be an ignorant troll.

If you're going to post childish Linux bashing, atleast have the courtesy
to restrict it to Microsoft newsgroups where the other lemmings can properly
appreciate it.

-- 
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blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              16-Oct-99 21:27:07
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
> >OS/2's *.INI files get rewritten from time to time, and they have a
> >tendency to grow. Probably your SWAPPER.DAT file has also grown to
> >the point where you are running out of space. You could keep the
> >SWAPPER.DAT file on a different drive.
> 
> Swapper.dat is also on C: and it can hardly grow because it is quite
> large of itself (290MB).
> 
    290 MB for a swapper file seems rather excessive. I have been using
64 MB on a few systems (each with 128 MB RAM) and have *never* seen the
swapper file grow beyond that.


-- 

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From: ppridgen@OregonVOS.net                            16-Oct-99 14:30:02
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Win32s In WinOS/@

From: Pat Pridgen <ppridgen@OregonVOS.net>

I was going to Install my Britannica CD in OS/2, and then it wanted to
install Win32s into WinOS/2. Is this going to be a problem? I don't wan't
to mess up a perfectly fine setup by doing this. I bought this when I had
Windows, and would still like to be able to use it.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

--
Pat - La Grande,OR.  http://www.greencis.net/~ppridgen
LHS 69   http://school.oregonlive.com/school/lhs1969
Do I believe in WormHoles? Heck, just saw one in my yard.

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From: bhk@dsl.co.uk                                     16-Oct-99 22:02:13
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly})

On Thursday, in article
     <LGsN3.1173$Ob.8242@typhoon3.tampabay.rr.com>
     bellerto@cfl.rr.com "BeLlErTo" wrote:

> Its really not that hard to decide....
> 
> OS2 - SUX
> WINNT - crashes like Win95 but is more complicated to solve problems.
> Linux - Linux
> 
> You can use Star Office and a bunch of other Corel apps to replace MS Office
> etc...

You write as if StarOffice were a Linux-exclusive product.  It exists in
versions for each of OS/2, Linux, Solaris (both SPARC and x86 variants),
*and* for Windoze.

IIRC, the OS/2 version was the *first* release of this fine M$ Office
replacement.

Moreover, it's FREE (well, the cost of a 68MB download).

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
    "But we're a university.  We /have/ to have a library!..."said Ridcully,
         "What sort of people would we be if we didn't go into the library?"
    "Students", said the Senior Wrangler, morosely. [TP: The Last Continent]

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From: possum@tree.branch                                16-Oct-99 22:42:02
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: possum@tree.branch (Mike Trettel)

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:08:28 -0700, Bones <oskib@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I currently run Win98 on a stand alone system at home. I have 128mgs of RAM
>and it's a P3 550. I want to switch to a more powerful operating system. I
>have used NT before and liked it, but I have been reading a lot about OS2
>and Linux recently.
>
>I have a couple of questions:
>
>1) I am a fairly technically apt person, but I am not a technical
>professional. Which of these will probably be easiest to install?
>2) Regardless of which system I choose, will I need to reformat the hard
>drive first, or will if I choose NT will I be able to install on top of
>Win98?
>3) Will OS2 and Linux run Window applications like MS Office, Quicken as
>well as lesser known applications?

Linux can run Win 3.1 apps using WABI (a commercial app, no longer
supported), and some Win16/32 apps using WINE.  WINE is very alpha-works
great for some things and not at all for others.  OS/2 runs Win 3.1 apps
very well-better than Windows 95 and/or NT in most cases.  It will not run
Win32 apps except for the small set that can be converted via the
Win32/OS2 project (now called ODIN).  In fact, some Win 3.1 apps run so
well under OS/2 (such as Wordperfect 7) that you would swear that they are
"native".  Overall, if Windows compatability is important to you you're
better off with OS/2.  Otherwise, choose NT-it will run 99% of all Win32
apps and Win 3.1 apps.

>4) Can OS2 and Linus rund new SCSI controllers, scanners, monitors, modems,
>network cards as easily as Microsoft?

Any decent SCSI adapter will be well supported under OS/2 and/or Linux.
For best results, choose a well known adapter such as the Adaptec 2940UW,
Mylex BT-958, Symbios 875SP, or Tekram.  In both cases you should use a
scsi scanner, and real modems (no winmodems).  Too many network cards to
pick from!  

>4) If I decide on NT, would I be better off waiting for
Windows 2000? >

Couldn't say, I don't have the W2K beta.
>
>Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks




-- 
===========
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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               17-Oct-99 00:46:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:03
Subj: Re: Win32s In WinOS/@

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Pat Pridgen schrieb:
> 
> I was going to Install my Britannica CD in OS/2, and then it wanted to
> install Win32s into WinOS/2. Is this going to be a problem? I don't wan't
> to mess up a perfectly fine setup by doing this. I bought this when I had
> Windows, and would still like to be able to use it.

Well, it depends on the version of Win32s the program needs. OS/2
officially supports only up to version 1.25a and definitely won't work
with a _real_ 1.30. If this app installs 1.30 then you can try to backup
your WIN32S.INI and install 1.25a over 1.30 so you get 1.25a with the
needed additional 1.30 files.
Sometimes you have to change the WIN32S.INI file since some programs
check the version number. A lot of apps install 1.30, but do run with
this "hybrid". You may also have to tweak your Win-OS/2 settings. There
are some hints in the OS/2 README file or the AskPSP from the Bonuspak.

Sounds quite complicated, eh? But I can assure you that a lot of Win32s
programs will work this way. They did here.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     16-Oct-99 23:37:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:03
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

 [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc - sorry I missed this before]

    ...On IRQ use reported by RMVIEW with no associated driver...

In <3807dde0$1001$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net
(Harry Travis) writes:
>In <7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99 
>   at 12:50 AM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:
--snip--
>>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>>see what you're talking about?
--snip--
>I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.
>
>This from rmview /irq
>
>RMVIEW: Physical view
--snip--
>Notice that IRQ 15 isn't shown. It has a cheapie symbios  isa scsi card
>on it, assigned with a /override /irq=15 option. 

>Here is some of the output from rmview /d

--snip--
>IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
--snip--

>Above each of the lines in this excerpt are the gory details of the
>device which claims the irq. 

Harry,

I believe you're seeing what you're seeing... I just wish I could 
make some sense of it. (;-)

>Maybe this selective recovery is foiled by network cards. Haven't there
>been numerous reports of challenges to OS/2 presented by some network
>cards? 

The only NIC-related problem I remember was with the OS/2 hardware 
detection software "probing" address 0x300 for (IIRC) CDROMs and 
managing to mess up some NE2000 clones so badly the system would lock up
hard. As far as I know all that affected was the _choice_ of driver to 
be installed, not the specifics of how that driver worked after it was 
loaded.

Is there anything helpful in the RMVIEW /D output surrounding its IRQ15
entry?  I can come up with a few ideas of what might be happening (but
nothing I'd care to be quoted on (;-)):

 1) The ROM BIOS probe is detecting the use of IRQ15 but isn't sure how 
    it gets used.

 2) Card has Shrug'n'Pray support and _that_ is being detected by that 
    probe.

 3) The SYMBIOS driver reports its IRQ use to RM (Resource Manager) but 
    not its name (???).

 4) IBM1S506 checks both IRQ14 and IRQ15 and gets responses back for 
    both... then realizes that only the first IDE channel is "active".

And I'm sure others can come up with even more ideas. Bottom line is, I 
just don't know.

Sorry... anyone else?


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             16-Oct-99 21:38:24
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:11
Subj: Seagate SCSI  tape drive  problems

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

I have an Archive/Conner/Seagate SCSI tape drive (actually an
autoloader: Archive model 4586NP) that worked fine on the SCSI port of a
SoundBlaster 16 SCSI-2 card in my old computer. Connected to the 50-pin
connector of my Asus P2B-LS (on-board Adaptec U2W SCSI), I got an
appalling number of "CRC mismatch" errors when I tried to verify/compare
the backup -- IOW, the data on the tape was corrupt (and I established
that this was true by restoring some reportedly corrupt .zip and .rar
files and finding that they did not pass the test using the -t or t
parameters).

I tried a PCI SCSI card with a Symbios Logic chip and found that things
were not a whole lot better.

The old SoundBlaster SCSI card is no longer available to try, but I did
try several backups using an ancient 8-bit ISA-bus Trantor T130B. Not a
single error! The problem is, of course, that using this card "pins" the
CPU meter, and it is impossible to do anything else much with the
computer while a backup is running.

The operating system is OS/2 Warp 4 (with the latest fixes), and the
backup software is Back Again/2 Professional ver. 4.0i by Computer Data
Strategies.

The on-board Adaptec SCSI seems to have no problems with the U2W hard
disk, or with the SCSI-2 CD-ROM and Syquest drives

Any ideas?

Alan


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Oct-99 21:18:03
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:11
Subj: Help with printer update

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

If someone who has installed OMNI could tell me there is an easy way to update
the printer drivers I'd appreciate it.

Is it not possible to copy the OMNI.* file into the proper directory, reboot
and
be done with it?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          17-Oct-99 10:30:08
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:11
Subj: Re: Can't read a certain CD.

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

Umm, strange. One of the config maintenance proggies suggested
it to be added there. I'll check again.

Cheers

Wayne


On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:02:33 +0100, Dr J A Gow wrote:

:>
:>
:>Wayne Bickell wrote:
:>
:>> I may be totally wrong as usual, but could it have anything to do
:>> with the "W" switch at the end of your statement for the CD drive.
:>>
:>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q /W
:>
:>As far as I know the /W switch should be on the IFS
:>line, not the DMD line: viz
:>
:>IFS=CDFS.IFS /V /Q
:>
:>(the /V switch is just there because I like to see what
:>drivers are loading :) )
:>
:>    John.
:>
:>--
:> _________________ ______________________________________________________
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:>|  /  \/  \_@     | Leicester, UK.                                       |
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:>
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: jbigge@novagate.com                               17-Oct-99 02:56:12
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: jbigge@novagate.com (Jerome Bigge)

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:44:00 -0700, "Bones" <oskib@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks everyone for all of your valuable input. I must say that after
>reading everything I am TERRIFIED about actually trying to install any of
>the Win98 alternatives. It seems that so much can go wrong, I can just
>imagine hours and hours of frustrations. Perhaps waiting for Win2k is the
>best bet. I just really hate Win98. I just got this computer and I started
>getting the predictable crashes already. I used NT for a while on another
>system and it crashed as well, but at least when an application crashed, it
>didn't usually bring the whole operating system down with it.
>
>I would like to switch to OS2 or Linux, but I don't have the technical
>expertise as most of the people in these newsgroups. I can usually figure
>out the glitches but not without lots of hair pulling. I should have just
>had the system shipped with NT when I bought it from Gateway. Oh Well...too
>late now.
>
>
>
>
OS/2 is easy to install.  You'd have to ask someone else about Linux
as I have no experience with it.   As far as OS/2 goes, when I installed
Warp 3, it took less time and less drive space than Windows 95.   For
OS/2 you need just over 50 megs, for Windows 95 about twice that.
OS/2 is much more crash proof than Windows 95, but the first desktop
screen you get won't be as "pretty" as Windows 95.  You can however
alter the OS/2 desktop to look almost like anything you want it to look
like.   And making "shadows" in OS/2 is easier than making "shortcuts"
in Windows, plus the "shadows" are "updated" when you make any
changes to the base program, something that Windows doesn't do.

The best place to find a copy of OS/2 is probably on eBay.   Do
remember that "red spine" boxes of OS/2 require that you have
Windows 3.x if you want to run Windows programs under OS/2.

Additionally, I'd buy either Partition Commander or Partition
Magic, make a partition on my hard drive for your new OS.
Then if you do have problems and have to reformat, you
can do so without losing anything.   Both will run under 98.
You need about a minimum of 60 megs of space (100 is
better) to run OS/2 Warp 3.   I believe Warp 4 needs more.

Another alternative is to buy a refurbished computer to play
with.   I'd get an early Pentium class machine, 16 to 32 megs,
about a 1 gig drive and CD-ROM.   I've seen these for about 
$115-135 or so.  There was a place called "ADW" I believe
that was offering these.   Look in the current "COMPUTER 
SHOPPER", check out some of those advertising in it.  Then
you can play with OS/2, Linux, whatever you want to try out....

Jerome Bigge

CompTIA A+ Certified Computer Technician
Author of the "Warlady" & "Wartime" series.
Download at "http://members.tripod.com/~jbigge"

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From: jbigge@novagate.com                               17-Oct-99 03:38:02
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: jbigge@novagate.com (Jerome Bigge)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:47:21 GMT, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John
Thompson) wrote:

>No; they haven't sold v3 since they released v4, over a year ago. 
>Sometimes you can still find v3 available eg at SurplusDirect for
>a substantial discount.

Try eBay.   They have a lot of software being auctioned off.

Jerome Bigge

CompTIA A+ Certified Computer Technician
Author of the "Warlady" & "Wartime" series.
Download at "http://members.tripod.com/~jbigge"

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                16-Oct-99 22:52:25
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:
> >Does anyone know if the Netscape 4.61 and Plugin Pack 3. files are
available on
> >any other site that the IBM download site.
> 
> Try:
> 
> http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

Unfortunately, Indelible Blue's download link merely takes you to the
same IBM site I was trying before.  You can't download either the one
with the encryption or the pluginpack, but you can download the non-
encrypted one.

I wonder if these are no longer free.  
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                16-Oct-99 23:08:20
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Annie K. wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:24:31, "Daniel Enright"
> <wishIcould@no.spam.for.me> wrote:
> 
> :        I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info on
> :buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an os/2
> :executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?
> 
>  http://www.ebay.com
> 
> --
> Klaatu barada nikto

Even if you find it, you may not be able to install it if you have a
large capacity hard disk drive.  I cannot install it on my system.
During the installation, I get an error message saying that I don't
have enough disk space to install, even though there are over 6 GB
of free disk space available.

It seems that not having an OS/2 executable is not the only drawback
to version 4.  According to another poster, Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay,
the DOS version lacks some capabilities with HPFS partitions and I
do NOT have Win32 on my machine, nor am I likely to ever have it.

I'm about ready to add Power Quest to my list of the rats who deserted
the sinking ship.  One more OS/2 application to add to the scrap heap!
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: wishIcould@no.spam.for.me                         17-Oct-99 00:11:28
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: Re: Win32s In WinOS/@

From: "Daniel Enright" <wishIcould@no.spam.for.me>

there was a big discussion particular to the program which
you speak of(Britannica), search deja news for it, sorry I'm not familiar
enought to recap it for you.
Daniel

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:46:20 +0200, Christian Hennecke wrote:

>Pat Pridgen schrieb:
>> 
>> I was going to Install my Britannica CD in OS/2, and then it wanted to
>> install Win32s into WinOS/2. Is this going to be a problem? I don't wan't
>> to mess up a perfectly fine setup by doing this. I bought this when I had
>> Windows, and would still like to be able to use it.
>
>Well, it depends on the version of Win32s the program needs. OS/2
>officially supports only up to version 1.25a and definitely won't work
>with a _real_ 1.30. If this app installs 1.30 then you can try to backup
>your WIN32S.INI and install 1.25a over 1.30 so you get 1.25a with the
>needed additional 1.30 files.
>Sometimes you have to change the WIN32S.INI file since some programs
>check the version number. A lot of apps install 1.30, but do run with
>this "hybrid". You may also have to tweak your Win-OS/2 settings. There
>are some hints in the OS/2 README file or the AskPSP from the Bonuspak.
>
>Sounds quite complicated, eh? But I can assure you that a lot of Win32s
>programs will work this way. They did here.
>
>Christian Hennecke
>-- 
>Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)



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From: nemo@union.edu                                    17-Oct-99 01:58:10
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: no music from cdplayer

From: nemo@union.edu

Greetings!

I just discovered that my music cd-player isn't working in Warp, FP10. It
works when booted to Win95 when I can't get a sound out of it when booted
to OS/2. I do have system sounds and can play wav's, midi's, etc.

Just need a fast tip where to look for trouble-shooting. Couldn't find
anything on deja.com.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: tgarson@auraltekihatespam.com                     16-Oct-99 22:58:11
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 05:16:23
Subj: Re: os2 as cleint to linux samba really slow compared to win95

From: "Tom Garson" <tgarson@auraltekihatespam.com>

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 21:46:05 GMT, James Moe wrote:

>
>
>Sean Hennessy - Geishan wrote:
>> 
>> I'm in the act of setting up a small network (7 stations) to replace an
>> os/2 peer server with linuxand samba.  The workstations are mainly os/2
>> but with 2 win machines(1 95; 1 NT).
>> 
>> Problem.
>> current access for a particular page:
>>     using os/2 server = 3.5 secs - All machines
>>     using Samba = 3 secs windows   = 22 secs OS/2
>> 
>> Now 22 secs is just a little bit on the slowwww side.
>> 
>> This reeks of an adjustment somewhere, but I'm just not cluey enough to
>> know what it is.
>> 
>
>    Have you tried the Linux networking newsgroup(s)? They are a helpful
>bunch.

I'm doing the same thing (Linux serving Warp via Samba) and had the same
experience. I thought it was a network or client problem, but was wrong. Once
I got samba correctly setup, everything began to work wonderfully. A word of
caution, I don't trust "swat" to correctly configure Samba. Once I studdied
the available docs and subsequently set up samba.conf by hand things went
vastly better. Among other good resources, there is a website called
www.Troubleshooters.com that you should check out.

Tom



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From: beve@dds.nl                                       17-Oct-99 08:59:06
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 05:16:24
Subj: help!!! PGCC is not working

From: "G. van der Veer" <beve@dds.nl>

Hi,

When I run any program (for example Squid) compiled in PGCC 1.1.3 or
below I get the following message:

SYS0191: GCC29166 cannot be run in an OS/2 session.

I installed the files which i got from http://www.goof.com/pcg/os2/
according the instructions.
I have ensured myself that all paths are in the path and libpath in my
config.sys (and of course EMX 0.9D fix 2 had already been installed).
When I toggle of protectonly it does not work either, so gcc29166.dll is
not a dos-executable either.  Maybe I need to install XFree86 for the
runtime libraries?

current system:

Processor:              Intel Pentium II 350 MHz
Motherboard:        Gateway 2000
Internal memory:  320 MB
Operating system: OS/2 Aurora

PS. I had the same troubles when using OS/2 Warp 4.0 Fixpak 6 with
earlier versions of PGCC.
I hope that I can get the runtime libraries working. Otherwise I have to
say goodbye till Star Office too  :-(

Another option might be to recompile the sources for PGCC... has anybody
an idea on how to do this?

I hope someone can help me out of this mess,

kind regards,

Berry van der Veer

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From: pfitz@ican.net                                    17-Oct-99 09:06:08
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 10:24:05
Subj: Re: OS2*.INI constantly updated after FP12 

From: Peter Fitzsimons <pfitz@ican.net>

Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

This all stems from some moron at ibm opening the *.ini file in "no
cache" mode, then proceeding to write no more than 32k at a time to the
file (and your os2.ini can be quite large).  Each write causes a
complete HPFS flush to occur.  To top it all off, it's not really
writing os2.ini, but "os2.!!!", so a powerfailure during the write
(which is the only reason I can think of why this person decided to make
this "no cache" change) would be moot, since when you rebooted os/2
would not use "os2.!!!".

This change occured in Warp 2.1 fixpak 2 or 3 (or so).  It pissed me off
so much I did something about it.  Later I wrote an article about it for
one of the online OS/2 magazine (i forget which). Here's that text.  If
anyone wants the code, email me.  This is for advanced users only.

skip ahead to "Why newcalls.dll?"

[--- cut ----]
Jan 22, 1997

What is NEWCALLS.DLL?
=====================
This is an example of how to redirect (or "hook") a function in a dll
that you don't have the code for.  My example hooks DosOpen() for
PMMERGE.DLL.  It works under Warp 3.0 or Warp 4.0 [ed: and wseb]


How it Works
============
The exe header of PMMERGE.DLL is changed so that all refernces to
DOSCALLS.DLL go to NEWCALLS.DLL instead (IBM's compiler supplies a
utility called DLLRNAME to do this).

NEWCALLS.DLL contains a forwarder entry (to DOSCALLS.DLL) for every
function exept Dos32Open().  The forwarder entries are created, by the
linker (FWDSTAMP.EXE is NOT needed),  because the *.def file both
IMPORTS and EXPORTS all of the function names (except Dos32Open).

Since many of the ordinals are not referenced by name (and are not
documented),  I forward them with a manufactured names. Example:

   _undoc4=DOSCALLS.4

Since the real doscalls.dll does not export a name for ordinal 4, it
should not make any difference what it is called.  The important thing
is that an oridinal of 4 does exist,  in case pmmerge.dll uses it (it
will use it by ordinal number, not by name).  This may seem
untrustworthy, but you have to keep in mind we are redirecting DOSCALLS
only for one specific piece of code (pmmerge.dll);  and if we get it
wrong it will fail to load.

Additionally,  newfwd.def IMPORTS the real Dos32Open,  for its own use,
by ordinal (273), and calls it _Dos32Open().  _Dos32Open() is a private
name,  only seen by newcalls.dll.

        _DOS32OPEN =DOSCALLS.273


Newcalls.c only has to contain code for one function, Dos32Open().  All
other functions are automatticaly redirected,  at load time,  to the
real doscalls.dll;  thus there is NO runtime performance impact,  only a
slight (probably immeasurable) loadtime impact.


Why NEWCALLS.DLL?
=================
Whenever anything changes on your WPS (which can happen simply by
referencing an object),  changes are made to OS2.INI and/or OS2SYS.INI.
Every so often (2 mins or so) these changes are written to disk.  Since
OS/2 2.1,  *.ini files are kept completely in (swappable) memory,  and
are rewritten, in their entirety,  whenever updates are required (this
means the system will have to swap out memory equal to the size of your
*.ini files,  swap in the memory where the *.ini file data is,  write
them out, etc...this design sucks;  I liked the way os/2 1.1 through 2.0
did it better).

To further complicate things,  the *.ini file data is written out in
chunks of 32k or less.  My os2*.ini files are 1.2mb;  that means about
40 DosWrite's.

The code for PrfOpenProfile() is in pmmerge.dll. PrfOpenProfile() calls
DosOpen with the "OPEN_FLAGS_WRITE_THROUGH" bit on.  This causes each
DosWrite() to the *.INI files to completely update all disk structures
before it returns (this is VERY slow on HPFS).

It takes a good 15-20 seconds to write my *.ini files out (and this
happens every few mins).  Not only do I have an annoyingly loud
harddisk,  but the performance of my PC will sometimes crawl while the
update is taking place (a priority boost is giving to threads blocked on
disk i/o).

My replacement DosOpen() masks off the OPEN_FLAGS_WRITE_THROUGH bit,  so
that all operations to the *.ini files are cached.  Now my *.ini file
updates are next to instant (a second or so),  and a lot quieter;  file
system structures are only updated once,  instead of after each
DosWrite().

I'm sure someone at IBM thought they were being "safe" by using
write-through mode.  I disagree.  The *.ini files are actually written
as "os2.!!!" and "os2sys.!!!",  then renamed to os2*.ini after they are
on the disk.  A power failure will only cause a problem if it occurs
when the *.!!! files are renamed (regardless if you're using
newcalls.dll or not).  A power failure while the ini file data is being
written to disk will cause the system to use the older *.ini files
already present.  It actually makes more sense to write the data out as
fast as you can,  to get ahead of the power failure.


How to use NEWCALLS.DLL
=======================

 1) Compile/link newcalls.c using IBM's compiler (the IBM linker is key;
    it creates the forwarder entries from the *.def file).  Simply:

    icc /Gn /O /Fenewcalls.dll newcalls.c newfwd.def os2386.lib

 2) Backup your original pmmerge.dll.   Run:

       \ibmcpp\bin\dllrname pmmerge.dll doscalls=NewCalls /q

    (You can't use the pmmerge.dll that is active;  copy it somewhere
     else, modify the copy, boot to the command line,  copy new dll to
     \os2\dll).

    This command will change all references to DOSCALLS to NEWCALLS.DLL.
    This only affects pmmerge.dll.  It does not directly affect any
    programs that use pmmerge.dll.  Furthermore,  only DosOpen
    (Dos32Open actually) has replacement code -- all other entry points
    are forwarded to the real doscalls.  There is ZERO runtime
    performance impact on forwarded calls (there is a slight LOAD time
    impact,  as the loader does its stuff).



Peter Fitzsimmons,
President,
A:WARE Inc (OS/2 Contracting)

Voice:  905 858 3222

Internet: pfitzsim@home.com

Copyright (C) 1997, A:WARE Inc.

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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                17-Oct-99 10:04:04
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 10:24:05
Subj: Re: Umax Astra 1220S scanner

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:52:01, "Rick Knebel" 
<rknebel@uplink.net> wrote:


îI am trying to use my Umax Astra 1220S scanner with the CFM tgwain drivers.
îThe program will not recognize my scanner.

You have to edit your `scanner.ini' file.  It's in the 
x:\OS2\TWAIN\CFMxx folder - where the first `x' is your OS/2
install drive, and the second `xx' is the CFM version 
number. Add the following to the end of it:


[Astra 1220S]
Driver=UMAX
ParameterFile=Astra1220S



________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

To send email - remove the `yyy'
________________________________________________________

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                17-Oct-99 09:20:21
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:10:14 -0400, Bob Germer wrote:
> >
> >They are still free. I just followed the above link to the point of
> >actually starting a download of the strong encryption version which I
> >already have. You must go through the IBM website inasmuch as you are
> >required to read and agree to the license before downloading either
> >version. For the 128 bit encryption version, IBM is checking your location
> >since only those in the US and Canada can download this version.
> >
> So you go and download the 40-bit version then go to the Fortify
> website (http://www.fortify.net/)and download their neat bit of
> software which converts it back to 128-bit. This process demonstrates
> how pathetic and futile the whole US encryption regime has become.

But I'm trying to download the Plugin Pack.  I downloaded Communicator
some time ago.  I did not download the 128-bit encryption version,
though.
Do you think maybe for some reason the program thinks I am located
outside the US?
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      17-Oct-99 13:09:29
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <CBA99C24DAFE21D4.D2C60B8AB04F7C4C.2605423585CE22CA@lp.airnews.net>, Dale
Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> writes:

>It seems that not having an OS/2 executable is not the only drawback
>to version 4.  According to another poster, Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay,
>the DOS version lacks some capabilities with HPFS partitions and I
>do NOT have Win32 on my machine, nor am I likely to ever have it.

I haven't seen this problem.  Just a couple weeks ago I used the 
DOS Partition Magic to resize and move my HPFS and ext2
partitions on my second HD to make room for another bootable HPFS
partition.  It went just fine.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                17-Oct-99 09:31:07
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Daniel Enright wrote:
> 
> thanks for the info, Rod.
> daniel
> 
> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 03:34:26 GMT, Rod Smith wrote:
> 
> >In article <jvfuvpbhyqabfcnzsbezr.fjoc0v0.pminews@news.sprint.ca>,
> >       "Daniel Enright" <wishIcould@no.spam.for.me> writes:
> >> hey guys,
> >>      I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info on
> >> buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an
os/2
> >> executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?
> >
> >Not AFAIK.  That shouldn't put you off buying version 4, though, for two
> >reasons:
> >
> >1) Version 4 is, overall, better.  It includes support for more
> >   filesystems and larger hard disks.  (IIRC, PM 3 maxes out at 8GB, which
> >   is getting a bit tight these days.)
> >2) Version 4 includes everything you need to create a DOS boot floppy
> >   with the DOS version of the program, even from OS/2.  (There's a script
> >   file that does the trick from OS/2.)
> >
> >There's really very little (probably no) reason to require an OS/2
> >executable for a utility like PM, so long as a means of running on a
> >system without Windows exists.
> >
> >--
> >Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
> >http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
> >Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

Daniel,

Someone emailed me a ftp site to obtain version 2.0 of PM.  I don't
know why he didn't post it here.  Since you don't have a valid
email address in your header, I'm sure he didn't send the info to
you.  If you want this information, contact me and I will forward
it to you.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: j1hamilton@aol.com                                17-Oct-99 14:41:11
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: Win32s In WinOS/@

From: j1hamilton@aol.com (J1Hamilton)

>
>there was a big discussion particular to the program which
>you speak of(Britannica), search deja news for it, sorry I'm not familiar
>enought to recap it for you.
>Daniel

Basic discussion is that Britanica worked fine under Warp 3 but will NOT
function under Warp 4 because of API changes.

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                17-Oct-99 10:03:10
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Jan Swartling wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:07:15, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:
> 
> > > > Partition Magic 3.0 will not install.  I get the message that there
> > > > is not enough disk space even though there's over 6GB free in the
> > > > partition I was trying to install to.
> > > > --
> > > > Dale Erwin
> > > > Dallas, Texas
> > >
> > > Dale,
> > >
> > > Isn't this another problem. Partition Magic v3 need a lot af free space
in
> > > lower memory (conventional memory the 640 KB limit.)
> > >
> > > Jan Swartling
> > >  Blue Soft
> > >  Sweden
> >
> > I don't know if it does or not, but that should have anything to do
> > with the INSTALL process.  The error message received says Not Enough
> > DISK space.  I have heard people on here say that I need to create a
> > temporary file to use up the space so that my free space is within the
> > 4.3 GB (now it sounds like maybe that threshold is 2GB???).
> >
> 
> I believe you have to give a lot more detailed information on the hard
> disk you are trying to install Partition Magic on. Like size, partitions,
> file formats, primary, logical, etc. Then someone may be able to help.
> 
> Jan Swartling
>  Blue Soft
>  Sweden

It's an 8.2 GB drive with two primary partitions and two logical 
drives in the extended partition.  Boot Manager is one primary 
partition even though I only have one OS installed right now.  
Second primary partition is 455 MB and dedicated to the OS.  D: 
is 133 MB and is dedicated to my swap file. E: is 7.3 GB with 6.2GB 
free (I know this doesn't add up to 8.2GB, but that's what my system
reports--probably different because of different methods of 
calculating what is a GB).  I am trying to install PM to the E: drive.
All drives are formatted HPFS.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                17-Oct-99 10:20:16
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Bob Germer wrote:
> 
> On <059D722243F6FB91.CD3D6DAD9DE3FF47.7ADB4DB547487807@lp.airnews.net>, on
> 10/16/99 at 10:52 PM,
>    Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:
> 
> > lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:
> > > >Does anyone know if the Netscape 4.61 and Plugin Pack 3. files are
available on
> > > >any other site that the IBM download site.
> > >
> > > Try:
> > >
> > > http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html
> > >
> > > Jim L
> > > Remove XX from address to Email
> > > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
> 
> > Unfortunately, Indelible Blue's download link merely takes you to the
> > same IBM site I was trying before.  You can't download either the one
> > with the encryption or the pluginpack, but you can download the non-
> > encrypted one.
> 
> > I wonder if these are no longer free.
> 
> They are still free. I just followed the above link to the point of
> actually starting a download of the strong encryption version which I
> already have. You must go through the IBM website inasmuch as you are
> required to read and agree to the license before downloading either
> version. For the 128 bit encryption version, IBM is checking your location
> since only those in the US and Canada can download this version.

I can get that far, too.  But when I try to download the Plugin Pak,
I get the following error message:

      Internal Server Error

      malformed header from script. Bad header=tm

      Apache/1.3.2 Server at www.software.ibm.com Port 80

I also get this message if I try to download the 128-bit encryption
version of Netscape.  I can, however, download the other Netscape
with no problem.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   17-Oct-99 11:17:13
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <7ub27g$nqr$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/16/99 
   at 11:37 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:


> [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc - sorry I missed this before]

>    ...On IRQ use reported by RMVIEW with no associated driver...

>In <3807dde0$1001$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) writes: >In
><7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99  >   at 12:50 AM,
>frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said: --snip--
>>>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>>>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>>>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>>>see what you're talking about?
>--snip--
>>I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.
>>
>>This from rmview /irq
>>
>>RMVIEW: Physical view
>--snip--
>>Notice that IRQ 15 isn't shown. It has a cheapie symbios  isa scsi card
>>on it, assigned with a /override /irq=15 option. 

>>Here is some of the output from rmview /d

>--snip--
>>IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
>--snip--

>>Above each of the lines in this excerpt are the gory details of the
>>device which claims the irq. 

>Harry,

>I believe you're seeing what you're seeing... I just wish I could  make
>some sense of it. (;-)

I miswrote: What I meant, as any reader can verify on his/her own
system, ist that in the output of rmview /d produces voluminous output,
including the "gory details" associated with each irq claimed BUT THOSE
GORY DETAILS WERE NOT QUOTED HERE

>>Maybe this selective recovery is foiled by network cards. Haven't there
>>been numerous reports of challenges to OS/2 presented by some network
>>cards? 

>The only NIC-related problem I remember was with the OS/2 hardware 
>detection software "probing" address 0x300 for (IIRC) CDROMs and 
>managing to mess up some NE2000 clones so badly the system would lock
>up hard. As far as I know all that affected was the _choice_ of driver
>to  be installed, not the specifics of how that driver worked after it
>was  loaded.


Well, here, on a stock IBM Intellistation, the Intel NIC card, with
latest driver, does not get detected. (If I needed it, I am sure R.
Steiner could tell me why not, and how to fix it.) More important is
that I am sure others have reported similar problems. in newsgroups.


>Is there anything helpful in the RMVIEW /D output surrounding its IRQ15
>entry?  I can come up with a few ideas of what might be happening (but
>nothing I'd care to be quoted on (;-)):

> 1) The ROM BIOS probe is detecting the use of IRQ15 but isn't sure how

>    it gets used.

> 2) Card has Shrug'n'Pray support and _that_ is being detected by that 
>    probe.

> 3) The SYMBIOS driver reports its IRQ use to RM (Resource Manager) but

>    not its name (???).

> 4) IBM1S506 checks both IRQ14 and IRQ15 and gets responses back for 
>    both... then realizes that only the first IDE channel is "active".

>And I'm sure others can come up with even more ideas. Bottom line is, I
> just don't know.

>Sorry... anyone else?


>Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
>Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
>E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com


-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
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From: derwin@airmail.net                                17-Oct-99 11:04:23
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Dale Erwin wrote:
> 
> Bob Germer wrote:
> >
> > On <059D722243F6FB91.CD3D6DAD9DE3FF47.7ADB4DB547487807@lp.airnews.net>, on
> > 10/16/99 at 10:52 PM,
> >    Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:
> >
> > > lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:
> > > > >Does anyone know if the Netscape 4.61 and Plugin Pack 3. files are
available on
> > > > >any other site that the IBM download site.
> > > >
> > > > Try:
> > > >
> > > > http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html
> > > >
> > > > Jim L
> > > > Remove XX from address to Email
> > > > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
> >
> > > Unfortunately, Indelible Blue's download link merely takes you to the
> > > same IBM site I was trying before.  You can't download either the one
> > > with the encryption or the pluginpack, but you can download the non-
> > > encrypted one.
> >
> > > I wonder if these are no longer free.
> >
> > They are still free. I just followed the above link to the point of
> > actually starting a download of the strong encryption version which I
> > already have. You must go through the IBM website inasmuch as you are
> > required to read and agree to the license before downloading either
> > version. For the 128 bit encryption version, IBM is checking your location
> > since only those in the US and Canada can download this version.
> 
> I can get that far, too.  But when I try to download the Plugin Pak,
> I get the following error message:
> 

>       Internal Server Error
> 
>       malformed header from script. Bad header=tm
> 
>       Apache/1.3.2 Server at www.software.ibm.com Port 80
> 
> I also get this message if I try to download the 128-bit encryption
> version of Netscape.  I can, however, download the other Netscape
> with no problem.
> --
> Dale Erwin
> Dallas, Texas
> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

I was finally able to download the plugin pack by going through the
Software Choice path.  The cost of a Software Choice subscription is
far beyond my means.  Without a subscription, how was I able to 
successfully download this file when I couldn't from the other path?
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             17-Oct-99 09:53:08
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: Seagate SCSI  tape drive  problems

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 21:38:48 -0400, Alan Beagley wrote:

>I have an Archive/Conner/Seagate SCSI tape drive (actually an
>autoloader: Archive model 4586NP) that worked fine on the SCSI port of a
>SoundBlaster 16 SCSI-2 card in my old computer. Connected to the 50-pin
>connector of my Asus P2B-LS (on-board Adaptec U2W SCSI), I got an
>appalling number of "CRC mismatch" errors when I tried to verify/compare
>the backup -- IOW, the data on the tape was corrupt (and I established
>that this was true by restoring some reportedly corrupt .zip and .rar
>files and finding that they did not pass the test using the -t or t
>parameters).
>
>I tried a PCI SCSI card with a Symbios Logic chip and found that things
>were not a whole lot better.

I suspect that the problem comes from the tape drive being and old
8-bit SCSI (slow) device. Those old original SCSI devices don't play
well when sharing a controller with any of the newer types of devices.
Did you try it on the SymBIOS controller all by itself? and did you
slow it down to 5M/s?


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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             17-Oct-99 13:30:14
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: Seagate SCSI  tape drive  problems

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

Yes, the tape drive is now the only device on the Symbios Logic card, and the
speed is set to 5Mb/s.

A private e-mail from another user tells of using a different Seagate tape
drive with the same motherboard, same operating system and same backup
software without experiencing any problems.

Alan


Doug Darrow wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 21:38:48 -0400, Alan Beagley wrote:
>
> >I have an Archive/Conner/Seagate SCSI tape drive (actually an
> >autoloader: Archive model 4586NP) that worked fine on the SCSI port of a
> >SoundBlaster 16 SCSI-2 card in my old computer. Connected to the 50-pin
> >connector of my Asus P2B-LS (on-board Adaptec U2W SCSI), I got an
> >appalling number of "CRC mismatch" errors when I tried to verify/compare
> >the backup -- IOW, the data on the tape was corrupt (and I established
> >that this was true by restoring some reportedly corrupt .zip and .rar
> >files and finding that they did not pass the test using the -t or t
> >parameters).
> >
> >I tried a PCI SCSI card with a Symbios Logic chip and found that things
> >were not a whole lot better.
>
> I suspect that the problem comes from the tape drive being and old
> 8-bit SCSI (slow) device. Those old original SCSI devices don't play
> well when sharing a controller with any of the newer types of devices.
> Did you try it on the SymBIOS controller all by itself? and did you
> slow it down to 5M/s?

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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            17-Oct-99 17:53:07
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <3808EDAD.F3E1AC60@rtd.com>, on 10/16/1999 
   at 09:27 PM, James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com> said:

>    290 MB for a swapper file seems rather excessive. I have been
>using 64 MB on a few systems (each with 128 MB RAM) and have *never*
>seen the swapper file grow beyond that.

It's long time ago that I have experimented and found this a fine
solution. Normally I'd say twice your internal memory (for me 2*128MB
= 256MB). As far as I can remember this wasn't enough running both the
ICQ-java-beta and some java-based chatbox at a time (under Nestscape/2
4.04 I guess). Maybe it's time for a new experiment because a lot of
things (fp s, NC/2) changed.....


Frits

-- 
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.66

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              17-Oct-99 17:29:06
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
>
> [ ... ] 
> As far as I can remember this wasn't enough running both the
> ICQ-java-beta and some java-based chatbox at a time (under Nestscape/2
> 4.04 I guess). Maybe it's time for a new experiment because a lot of
> things (fp s, NC/2) changed.....
> 
     Actually, there is indeed a time when the swapper grew beyond 64
MB. I have Navigator's disk cache set to 0 and the memory cache to
99,999; this forces Nav to use RAM and the system swapper for caching.
When I download anything that exceeds available RAM, it goes into the
swap file. A couple of times I was downloading enormous files (60 - 100
MB, *not* using a dial-up!) and the swap file was used to handle the
overflow.
    Other than that I cannot think of a time when I could have used a
larger swap file.
    Although it does seem to be true that Java programs really eat up
RAM....


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net                           17-Oct-99 16:13:25
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: james.arnold@!!!usa.net

In <A824ED7C5DE3471D.328AFC6E9C7A7B6A.3225AA2442807B9B@lp.airnews.net>, Dale
Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> writes:
>Jan Swartling wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:07:15, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:
>> 
>> > > > Partition Magic 3.0 will not install.  I get the message that there
>> > > > is not enough disk space even though there's over 6GB free in the
>> > > > partition I was trying to install to.
>> > > > --
>> > > > Dale Erwin
>> > > > Dallas, Texas
>> > >
>> > > Dale,
>> > >
>> > > Isn't this another problem. Partition Magic v3 need a lot af free space 
in
>> > > lower memory (conventional memory the 640 KB limit.)
>> > >
>> > > Jan Swartling
>> > >  Blue Soft
>> > >  Sweden

	No this is not the problem at all.

>> >
>> > I don't know if it does or not, but that should have anything to do
>> > with the INSTALL process.  The error message received says Not Enough
>> > DISK space.  I have heard people on here say that I need to create a
>> > temporary file to use up the space so that my free space is within the
>> > 4.3 GB (now it sounds like maybe that threshold is 2GB???).
>> >

	The demarcation size is 2 Gb.

>> 
>> I believe you have to give a lot more detailed information on the hard
>> disk you are trying to install Partition Magic on. Like size, partitions,
>> file formats, primary, logical, etc. Then someone may be able to help.
>> 
>> Jan Swartling
>>  Blue Soft
>>  Sweden
>
>It's an 8.2 GB drive with two primary partitions and two logical 
>drives in the extended partition.  Boot Manager is one primary 
>partition even though I only have one OS installed right now.  
>Second primary partition is 455 MB and dedicated to the OS.  D: 
>is 133 MB and is dedicated to my swap file. E: is 7.3 GB with 6.2GB 
>free (I know this doesn't add up to 8.2GB, but that's what my system
>reports--probably different because of different methods of 
>calculating what is a GB).  I am trying to install PM to the E: drive.
>All drives are formatted HPFS.
>-- 
>Dale Erwin
>Dallas, Texas
><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

	The problem you are running into is the well known "2Gb limit". The Install
programme is calculating the remaining free disk space using a 32 bit signed
integer.
A 32 bit signed integer will hold a number of 2**32-1 which is 1 less than 2
GB.
You need to install Partition Magic to a disk with less than 2Gb free space
and then
move it to your large partition or create a large temp file that will leave
you with
less than 2 Gb free on your target partition.

	As I recall there is a DOS version of Partition Magic on the CD that you
could
use to reduce the size of your target partition. Boot up DOS, reduce the size
of your
partition, boot into OS/2 install Partition Magic, shut down OS/2 and boot up
DOS
again and use the DOS version to resize the partition back to its original
size.

	Take which ever option is easier for you.

	Jim


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From: nemo@union.edu                                    17-Oct-99 12:52:00
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: no music from cdplayer

From: nemo@union.edu

In <38099eba$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, on 10/17/99 
   at 06:00 AM, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> said:


>> I just discovered that my music cd-player isn't working in Warp, FP10.
>> It works when booted to Win95 when I can't get a sound out of it when
>> booted to OS/2. I do have system sounds and can play wav's, midi's, etc.

>> Just need a fast tip where to look for trouble-shooting. Couldn't find
>> anything on deja.com

>I assume that your Multimedia folder includes the icon for the CD player.
>If so, I suggest uninstalling Multimedia support and reinstalling it.
>From what I am reading from you here and elsewhere, it seems your system
>has somehow gotten a bit farkled.

'Farkled'? Well, no, not really, but I've had some problems with a couple
of apps; this multimedia thing is the first thing that might point to
systemic issues, I think. Actually, I've been pleased with the overall
stability. 

Question: If I reinstall multimedia, I guess I'll have to reinstall FP10
or perhaps preferably, install FP12? 

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              17-Oct-99 09:56:26
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: Lost REXX

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

Symptoms, symptoms, symptoms! What happens? What does it say? Does it
trap? Does it hang? Give people SOMETHING to go on if you want help.

Graham.

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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             17-Oct-99 10:29:18
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:52:51 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>  You can't download either the one
>with the encryption or the pluginpack, but you can download the non-
>encrypted one.
>
>I wonder if these are no longer free. 

Yes, they're still free. You can't download the 128-bit enc. because of
the stupid US laws against exporting high tech. So they ask you for a
name, address, email and such like to confirm that you live in US or
Canada, then the mail you a (free) CD. Why you can't get the plug-in
pack I don't know.

You could also get Fortify for Comm/2 to get the encryption.
http://www.fortify.net  (I believe)


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             17-Oct-99 10:33:20
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:04:47 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>I was finally able to download the plugin pack by going through the
>Software Choice path.  The cost of a Software Choice subscription is
>far beyond my means.  Without a subscription, how was I able to 
>successfully download this file when I couldn't from the other path?

Because SWC doesn't switch to all fee until Y2K. 


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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              17-Oct-99 17:44:18
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: Lost REXX

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>

Brian wrote:
> 
> The rexx script in my startup.cmd doesn't function.  It appears I've
> lost REXX
> support w/ out trying to remove it.  I don't see it in selective
> install.  How do I
> restore REXX?
> 
    Have you tried to run a REXX script to verify REXX is not there?
    Normally STARTUP.CMD is not a REXX script; it's more along the lines
of the old DOS command shell. Indeed, if the first line does not have
"/* <whatever> */"  in it, it is not a REXX script at all.


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: letoured@nospam.net                               17-Oct-99 12:32:10
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: letoured@nospam.net

<99078729@brookes.ac.uk> said:

>You can pretty much forget os2.... support for that operating system is
>dropping.

And that is why IBM has been releasing Fixpaks for years now? Not to
mention server editions, etc. -- The real bottome line is that OS2 is
still more advanced the Winoze anything. 

If you want to play games -- go windows. 
If you want to get work done -- go OS2.
If you want to be first with a system that still takes work -- go Linux.


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 17-Oct-99 16:25:16
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

99078729 wrote:
> 
> Linux easy to install? I fonud Linux a nightmare compared to an NT
> installation. However I do agree that Linux is a more stable OS, but
> Linux and NT are two different OS's and will probably require two
> different mind-sets to get round them. I'm an NT man but I've installed
> Linux on one of my machines. Right now I'd say that NT is more user
> friendly, but I'm sure there are loads of people will say Linux is
> better. In some ways I agree but remember that out there the everyday
> users are not into writing code or hacking in general.

The Linux today is easy to install and the hardware probing works
actually better than the Windows one!

you're right about Linux and NT being two different operating
systems.

1)

* NT is partly designed after the VMS (the predecessor of UNIX)
model, with a network add-on.
* Linux is designed after the later UNIX-model, with networking
integrated into the system!

> You can pretty much forget os2.... support for that operating system is
> dropping.

Don't believe everthing you hear!

Did you know that Windows NT actually was designed as an hardware
platform independent OS/2 Server??

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de                      17-Oct-99 18:06:19
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: How much Performance improvement with JFS?

From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de (Carsten Frank)

How much faster is JFS compared to hpfs386 with 30MB Cache

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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          17-Oct-99 19:38:01
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Stewart Honsberger <blackdeath@13softhome.net> wrote in message
news:slrn80hreo.208.blackdeath@blackdeath.pr1.on.wave.home.com...
> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:08:40 +0100, Richard Dakin wrote:
> >> > OS/2 - Don't know, not enough experience
> >> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
> >> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their
left
> >foot
>
> You appear to be an ignorant troll.
>
> If you're going to post childish Linux bashing, atleast have the courtesy
> to restrict it to Microsoft newsgroups where the other lemmings can
properly
> appreciate it.

No I am not a troll, I just have a different opinion to you & I like NT.
I didn't start this thread, if you don't like my responses kill file me or
remove the Linux groups from the list.


--
Richard Dakin

+++ No email please +++


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From: bandyo@wam.umd.edu                                17-Oct-99 14:46:27
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu>

I am not sure the problem I had, had to do with HPFS per se.  I think, 
it was the size of the partition (big), size of the free space before 
the partition (small), and the mass of data in the partition (large), 
created a situation that required more than the physical memory in my 
machine. Since plain DOS does not use swap files for virtual memory 
this operation was not allowed.  It worked in Win95 probably because 
Win95 could use virtual memory.  But it took about 45 minutes to do 
it.  I must say, I was able to move and resize three other smaller 
HPFS partitions with relatively less data without any problem using 
the DOS version of PM 4, without any problem and in relatively short 
time compared to what it took the Win95 version with that large 
partition.  It is possible that the DOS version would have worked if I 
manually moved some of the data to another partition and made more 
space available in the partition in question.  But I didn't test this 
hypothesis.

Finally, I must add that I am no expert on PM v4, memory, swap files, 
DOS, or Win95.  In fact I know next to nothing about their internals.  
So my reasoning is mare speculation.  

Sushenjit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 10-17-99, 1:09:59 PM, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) 
wrote regarding Re: partition magic for os/2:


> In <CBA99C24DAFE21D4.D2C60B8AB04F7C4C.2605423585CE22CA@lp.airnews.net>, 
Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> writes:

> >It seems that not having an OS/2 executable is not the only drawback
> >to version 4.  According to another poster, Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay,
> >the DOS version lacks some capabilities with HPFS partitions and I
> >do NOT have Win32 on my machine, nor am I likely to ever have it.

> I haven't seen this problem.  Just a couple weeks ago I used the
> DOS Partition Magic to resize and move my HPFS and ext2
> partitions on my second HD to make room for another bootable HPFS
> partition.  It went just fine.

> -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)



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From: beve@dds.nl                                       17-Oct-99 21:08:25
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Re: How much Performance improvement with JFS?

From: "G. van der Veer" <beve@dds.nl>

Carsten Frank skrev:

> How much faster is JFS compared to hpfs386 with 30MB Cache

how much cache do you want to assign for JFS? With 30 MB it should be
faster than hpfs386 with equal amount of cache

Berry van der Veer

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From: tulloch@modempool.com                             17-Oct-99 15:32:13
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: FA: 3 PS/2 Server 95's

From: Daniel Tulloch <tulloch@modempool.com>

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All 3 systems have the following in common:

IBM PS/2 Server 95 Model 9595-1NG
486DX2-66 Intel Processor
95A Planar which has 2 Serial/2 Parallel onboard
IBM SVGA Adapter /A
400W Power Supply
2.88MB FDD
Adaptec AHA-1640 SCSI Adapter

System specifics:

Server 95 #1

IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
32MB ECC RAM
IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
Novell NE2 MCA NIC
IBM 400MB SCSI HDD

Server 95 #2

IBM SCSI Adapter /A
16MB Parity RAM
Quantum Pro-Drive LPS 240MB SCSI-2 HDD

Server 95 #3

IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
BusLogic BT-640A 32-bit SCSI-2 Adapter
48MB ECC RAM
IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
3Com Etherlink/MC TP NIC
IBM DSAS-3540 540MB SCSI-2 HDD
IBM WDS3200 212MB SCSI-2 HDD
Fujitsu M2624FA 520MB SCSI-2 HDD

Box only, No monitor, keyboard, or mouse.
Everything works excellent.
Low-level format and data integrity tests were performed on all DASD.
PC-DOS 7.0 installed.
PS/2 Server95 compatible with DOS, OS/2, Linux, Windows(3.X, 9X, NT)

Info@IBM:  Server95
Questions can be sent to:  tulloch@modempool.com

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All 3 systems have the following in common:

<P>IBM PS/2 Server 95 Model 9595-1NG
<BR>486DX2-66 Intel Processor
<BR>95A Planar which has 2 Serial/2 Parallel onboard
<BR>IBM SVGA Adapter /A
<BR>400W Power Supply
<BR>2.88MB FDD
<BR>Adaptec AHA-1640 SCSI Adapter
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>System specifics:

<P><A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=183176920">Server
95 #1</A>
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
<BR>32MB ECC RAM
<BR>IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
<BR>Novell NE2 MCA NIC
<BR>IBM 400MB SCSI HDD
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR><A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=183179020">Server
95 #2</A>
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>IBM SCSI Adapter /A
<BR>16MB Parity RAM
<BR>Quantum Pro-Drive LPS 240MB SCSI-2 HDD
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR><A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=183263493">Server
95 #3</A>
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
<BR>BusLogic BT-640A 32-bit SCSI-2 Adapter
<BR>48MB ECC RAM
<BR>IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
<BR>3Com Etherlink/MC TP NIC
<BR>IBM DSAS-3540 540MB SCSI-2 HDD
<BR>IBM WDS3200 212MB SCSI-2 HDD
<BR>Fujitsu M2624FA 520MB SCSI-2 HDD
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>Box only, No monitor, keyboard, or mouse.
<BR>Everything works excellent.
<BR>Low-level format and data integrity tests were performed on all DASD.
PC-DOS 7.0 installed.
<BR>PS/2 Server95 compatible with DOS, OS/2, Linux, Windows(3.X, 9X, NT)

<P>Info@IBM:&nbsp; <A
HREF="http://www.can.ibm.com/helpware/9595.html">Server95</A>
<BR>Questions can be sent to:&nbsp; <A
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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          17-Oct-99 20:04:06
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:07
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <551DCAC5C3EC3D40.D0670E2FD0A7D262.16B5591D10018B18@lp.airnews.net>
	   derwin@airmail.net "Dale Erwin" writes:

> Do you think maybe for some reason the program thinks I am
> located outside the US?
> --
> Dale Erwin
> Dallas, Texas

Smart program.  Isn't the US just a plug-in for Texas?  ;-)
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               17-Oct-99 17:05:15
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:07
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:08:40 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>> :        I went throught the partition magic site, but I can't find info on
>> :buying partition magic version 3.... since version 4 does not have an os/2
>> :executable, is there any method of purchasing partition magic 3?

If they wont provide it to you, I could let you borrow it from my HD, I have
Version 3.
Email if interested

redonn2@attglobal.net

It is pitiful that the introduction of OS/2 is what got this company started,
with buyers that needed to create partitions.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               17-Oct-99 17:17:06
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:07
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:52:51 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>Unfortunately, Indelible Blue's download link merely takes you to the
>same IBM site I was trying before.  You can't download either the one
>with the encryption or the pluginpack, but you can download the non-
>encrypted one.

I got mine at
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/os/warp/netscape/ns461.html#download

It does seem to take 5 minutes before the page will turn after you click the
dialogues.
Be patient.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Ludwig.Fischer@bigfoot.com.REMOV...               17-Oct-99 23:27:25
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:07
Subj: Re: M$ Intellimouse Explorer mouse and OS/2

Message sender: Ludwig.Fischer@bigfoot.com.REMOVETHAT

From: "Ludwig Fischer" <Ludwig.Fischer@bigfoot.com.REMOVETHAT>

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 01:31:26 +1300, Aaron Lawrence wrote:

>Anyone tried using one of these new mice (with the smart optical
>recognition thingy) under OS/2? It seems like it should be OK, USB or
>PS/2 connections, but better safe than sorry at over US$50 for a
>mouse...
>
>I really need a glowing red mouse :-)
>
>Cheers
>
>Aaron


Hallo !

I work with a Intellimouse Explorer and PS/2 connection.

Both buttons and the wheel is working perfect.

BUT, it can not work with button4 and button5 (only under W98)

--------------
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Vienna Austria



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From: pdrumm@dwave.net                                  17-Oct-99 21:46:03
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:07
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: pdrumm@dwave.net (Peter Drumm)

In message
<CBA99C24DAFE21D4.D2C60B8AB04F7C4C.2605423585CE22CA@lp.airnews.net> -
Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> writes:
:->
:->Even if you find it, you may not be able to install it if you have a
:->large capacity hard disk drive.  I cannot install it on my system.
:->During the installation, I get an error message saying that I don't
:->have enough disk space to install, even though there are over 6 GB
:->of free disk space available.
:->

The most likely cause of that is that the installer can't deal with a
partition over 2GB in size. The text version pmagicot.exe works fine
from a floppy, and you will -have-to- run that one if you want to do
anything to your boot drive.

Custom machining; Tool & Cutter grinding
Peter Drumm, Wausau WI  <pdrumm@dwave.net> 
<http://home.dwave.net/~pdrumm>
Cyrix6x86/300 MII, OS/2 Warp 4, Linux

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From: oliver.rick@oor.de                                17-Oct-99 15:27:17
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:07
Subj: Re: FP12 broke EPM?? (I think)

From: oliver.rick@oor.de (Oliver Rick)

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 Graham C. Norris wrote:

> FP12 actually *fixed* EPM, so it definitely changed.

EPM was fixed and has new bugs as well. Now it no longer crashes here while
loading files with big EAs (fixed in ETKE603.DLL). With the complete FixPak
12 applied the font selection goes weird: *new bitmap* fonts in *fixed*
sizes selectable instead of default installed fonts, compiled font in
EPM.EX is overridden and no longer selectable while ignoring the correct
entry in EPM.INI. Typing F3 to close a file no longer closes the file after
confirming to save the file, so I have to hit F3 twice (this is a bug in
ETKE603.DLL, which I have copied manually from the FixPak as the only file).

I have restored OS/2 to FP#11, because EPM is an essential application here.
BTW, I use the version that came with Warp 4, but I use macros compiled by
myself from the complete EPM 6.03B package.

   /Olli/
--
IBM OS/2 Warp Update Summary:
http://www.warpupdates.de/english/warpupdates.html

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From: 99078729@brookes.ac.uk                            17-Oct-99 14:08:06
  To: Alien@heaven.com                                  18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

To: Anonymous Alien <Alien@heaven.com>
From: 99078729 <99078729@brookes.ac.uk>

Linux easy to install? I fonud Linux a nightmare compared to an NT
installation. However I do agree that Linux is a more stable OS, but
Linux and NT are two different OS's and will probably require two
different mind-sets to get round them. I'm an NT man but I've installed
Linux on one of my machines. Right now I'd say that NT is more user
friendly, but I'm sure there are loads of people will say Linux is
better. In some ways I agree but remember that out there the everyday
users are not into writing code or hacking in general.

You can pretty much forget os2.... support for that operating system is
dropping.

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From: coville@localnet.com                              17-Oct-99 13:16:18
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Lost REXX

From: coville@localnet.com (Brian)

The rexx script in my startup.cmd doesn't function.  It appears I've 
lost REXX
support w/ out trying to remove it.  I don't see it in selective 
install.  How do I
restore REXX?
  
        Thanks,
                 Brian
  

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From: p.engels@gmx.de                                   17-Oct-99 15:07:03
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Suche Claude Steinmetz

From: "Peter Engels" <p.engels@gmx.de>

Hallo Claude,

durch einen Plattencrash ist meine gesamte eMail der letzten Jahre
verloren, leider auch Deine eMail Adresse. Wenn Du hier mitliest :
Bitte bei mir melden!

This OS/2 system uptime is 00 hours, 37 minutes and 44 seconds.
-- 
MfG / Regards

	Peter Engels


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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  17-Oct-99 10:42:10
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: Umax Astra 1220S scanner

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:52:01, "Rick Knebel" <rknebel@uplink.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> I am trying to use my Umax Astra 1220S scanner with the CFM tgwain drivers.
> The program will not recognize my scanner.
> 
> It work fine with my other OS's just not with os2.
> 
> Could anyone help who is using this scanner.

Open the file scanner.ini (in my system it is in the directory: <boot 
drive>:\os2\twain\cfm512, but your lowest-level directory may be 
different).

Go to the section labelled UMAX, and insert another paragraph as follows:

[Astra 1220S]
Driver=UMAX
ParameterFile=1220S

That's all it needs. 

-----------------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           17-Oct-99 06:00:29
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: no music from cdplayer

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <380965a8$1$qnivfs$mr2ice@news.logical.net>, on 10/17/99 at 01:58 AM,
   nemo@union.edu said:

> Greetings!

> I just discovered that my music cd-player isn't working in Warp, FP10.
> It works when booted to Win95 when I can't get a sound out of it when
> booted to OS/2. I do have system sounds and can play wav's, midi's, etc.

> Just need a fast tip where to look for trouble-shooting. Couldn't find
> anything on deja.com

I assume that your Multimedia folder includes the icon for the CD player.
If so, I suggest uninstalling Multimedia support and reinstalling it. From
what I am reading from you here and elsewhere, it seems your system has
somehow gotten a bit farkled.

--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 9
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           17-Oct-99 06:10:07
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <059D722243F6FB91.CD3D6DAD9DE3FF47.7ADB4DB547487807@lp.airnews.net>, on
10/16/99 at 10:52 PM,
   Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:

> lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> > 
> > Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:
> > >Does anyone know if the Netscape 4.61 and Plugin Pack 3. files are
available on
> > >any other site that the IBM download site.
> > 
> > Try:
> > 
> > http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html
> > 
> > Jim L
> > Remove XX from address to Email
> > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

> Unfortunately, Indelible Blue's download link merely takes you to the
> same IBM site I was trying before.  You can't download either the one
> with the encryption or the pluginpack, but you can download the non-
> encrypted one.

> I wonder if these are no longer free.  

They are still free. I just followed the above link to the point of
actually starting a download of the strong encryption version which I
already have. You must go through the IBM website inasmuch as you are
required to read and agree to the license before downloading either
version. For the 128 bit encryption version, IBM is checking your location
since only those in the US and Canada can download this version.

--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 9
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           17-Oct-99 06:12:17
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: Help with printer update

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <380924a1$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, on 10/16/99 at 09:18 PM,
   lifedata@xxvol.com said:

> If someone who has installed OMNI could tell me there is an easy way to
> update the printer drivers I'd appreciate it.

> Is it not possible to copy the OMNI.* file into the proper directory,
> reboot and be done with it?

Absolutely not! You must install a new driver through the printer object.
The appropriate drivers are then extracted from the driver file and
installed to your desktop.


--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 9
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 17-Oct-99 11:51:03
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:07:15, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:

> > > Partition Magic 3.0 will not install.  I get the message that there
> > > is not enough disk space even though there's over 6GB free in the
> > > partition I was trying to install to.
> > > --
> > > Dale Erwin
> > > Dallas, Texas
> > 
> > Dale,
> > 
> > Isn't this another problem. Partition Magic v3 need a lot af free space in
> > lower memory (conventional memory the 640 KB limit.)
> > 
> > Jan Swartling
> >  Blue Soft
> >  Sweden
> 
> I don't know if it does or not, but that should have anything to do
> with the INSTALL process.  The error message received says Not Enough
> DISK space.  I have heard people on here say that I need to create a
> temporary file to use up the space so that my free space is within the
> 4.3 GB (now it sounds like maybe that threshold is 2GB???).
> 

I believe you have to give a lot more detailed information on the hard 
disk you are trying to install Partition Magic on. Like size, partitions, 
file formats, primary, logical, etc. Then someone may be able to help.

Jan Swartling
 Blue Soft
 Sweden

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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk                         17-Oct-99 13:04:15
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:10:14 -0400, Bob Germer wrote:
>
>They are still free. I just followed the above link to the point of
>actually starting a download of the strong encryption version which I
>already have. You must go through the IBM website inasmuch as you are
>required to read and agree to the license before downloading either
>version. For the 128 bit encryption version, IBM is checking your location
>since only those in the US and Canada can download this version.
>
So you go and download the 40-bit version then go to the Fortify
website (http://www.fortify.net/)and download their neat bit of
software which converts it back to 128-bit. This process demonstrates
how pathetic and futile the whole US encryption regime has become.


Dave
-- 
mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               17-Oct-99 19:18:10
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Re: The Revenge of OS/2 users

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Don Morse wrote:

>
> actually, for abandoning us due to their own marketing shortcomings.
>
> I would recommend any and all users to avoid purchasing IBM hardware.
> They never know when IBM will abandon them because they lost interest.

The reason why you never know, of course, is that you have no historical data
to go on. IBM
have never abandoned a product ®because they lost interest¯, they even
provided an upgrade
path for users of typewriters to dedicated word processors, and from them to
PC-based word
processors with the same type of user interface. They did, after a fashion,
abandon some
products which almost nobody purchased, but not without offering an upgrade
path and
sufficient support to the users. With a company like that, it is difficult to
make
statistics on average time to abandonment.

Only last week, I got documentation from the IBM support website for my
ancient PS/2 model
P-70 in order to make a memory and disk upgrade (the thing still works fine,
and a newer
computer would not be any better at what Iuse it for). It was manufactured in
1989.

They also still support, directly or through direct descendants, every
operating system they
have sold since the mid 1960s. I challenge you to find a single other company
with a
similiar track record for standing by their customers. The only one I can
think of, is
Electrolux. They sent a service rep on a housecall in 1979 to do a last free
service before
the refrigeratior we had bought in 1954 went out of warranty. It still works,
by the way.

(Yes, I am of the kind who prefer to buy one expensive product rather than a
new piece of
junk every year).


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From: jr_fox@earthlink.net                              17-Oct-99 15:37:09
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net>

Rod Smith wrote:
 
> 1) Version 4 is, overall, better.  It includes support for more
>    filesystems and larger hard disks.  (IIRC, PM 3 maxes out at 8GB, which
>    is getting a bit tight these days.)

Doubt this.  I've used PM-3 on 9G drives.

<jf>

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        17-Oct-99 22:56:01
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
been changed or added, however.

According to the readme, however, scroll-wheels and sticks are
still only supported for PS/2 mice.  (At least it now says so
clearly.)

Does anyone know when/if IBM plans to include this functionality
for serial mice?  Is it really so much more difficult and
complicated?

Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been 
more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),
but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
more useful kind.

Every time I've been working in Linux for a while, and then
switch back to OS/2, I suddenly miss being able to scroll with
my mouse wheel...

I have neither the capacity nor the intention of putting a
PS/2 mouse in my system, so I find the situation a little
frustrating...

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: davek@clark.net                                   17-Oct-99 22:59:16
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

J. R. Fox (jr_fox@earthlink.net) wrote:                               

: Rod Smith wrote:                                                    

: > 1) Version 4 is, overall, better.  It includes support for more 
: >    filesystems and larger hard disks.  (IIRC, PM 3 maxes out at 
: >    8GB, which is getting a bit tight these days.)                 

: Doubt this.  I've used PM-3 on 9G drives.                           

Same problem as other posters here.  Seems to be BIOS based.  If
you're booted to DOS and can see the disk, Partition Magic can handle
it.  If you can't, neither can PM...

I've had it be able to handle 9 gig scsi drives, but not 9 gig IDE
drives.  Can see the SCSI drive from DOS, can't see the 9 gig IDE
(not from win95 either -- but OS/2 can see it with no problems).

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: Arnstein.Prytz@jcu.edu.au                         18-Oct-99 10:25:14
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Hotmail security problem?

From: Arnstein Prytz <Arnstein.Prytz@jcu.edu.au>

This is not strictly an OS/2 problem, but I wonder if anyone else
has seen this.

I have a friend with a hotmail account and I noticed something
strange when we were mucking around the other day.

On the sign-in page you enter your account name and password and
check the `secure' radio button so that others will not be able
to inspect the cache to determine what you were up to.  Remember
to first allow cookies to be set, otherwise you don't get in at
all.  Help on the secure option indicates that once you sign out
then noone else can get at what you were were looking at.

Now, once you are in, sign-out, and you are taken to www.msn.com
(surprise, surprise).  Well, you feel secure and leave the
computer/terminal you are at, forgetting to close netscape
(which is what my friend uses).  On that msn page there is a 
hotmail tab.  Click on that (go.msn.com/0/1/) and you are taken 
right back into the hotmail account without any more verification!
You can then browse through the entire hotmail folder system with
impunity.

This is no good, in my opinion, and must constitute some sort of
security hole.

I know I can disable cookies again, or close netscape and the
problem does not arise, but this scenario I've just described is 
still rather unpleasant.

If this is a proper hole and I'm not just thick as two short 
planks, where else is a proper forum for posting this?

Regards, Arnstein 
------------------------------------------------------------------
Arnstein Prytz				 Arnstein.Prytz@jcu.edu.au
Department of Physics				ph:  61-7-47815183
James Cook University                    	fax: 61-7-47815880
Townsville, Queensland 4811, Australia
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From: benbowc@tui.lincoln.ac.nz                         18-Oct-99 13:35:00
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: LS120 How?

From: Craig Benbow <benbowc@tui.lincoln.ac.nz>

I remember someone posting all the switches for the latest IBMATAPI.FLT
a while back to get an LS120 going.  Does anyone have a copy of that
posting or suggestion on how to get OS/2 to see the drive.  The driver
installs without fault but I can't access the drive.

Craig

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                17-Oct-99 20:59:21
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay wrote:
> 
> I am not sure the problem I had, had to do with HPFS per se.  I think,
> it was the size of the partition (big), size of the free space before
> the partition (small), and the mass of data in the partition (large),
> created a situation that required more than the physical memory in my
> machine. Since plain DOS does not use swap files for virtual memory
> this operation was not allowed.  It worked in Win95 probably because
> Win95 could use virtual memory.  But it took about 45 minutes to do
> it.  I must say, I was able to move and resize three other smaller
> HPFS partitions with relatively less data without any problem using
> the DOS version of PM 4, without any problem and in relatively short
> time compared to what it took the Win95 version with that large
> partition.  It is possible that the DOS version would have worked if I
> manually moved some of the data to another partition and made more
> space available in the partition in question.  But I didn't test this
> hypothesis.
> 
> Finally, I must add that I am no expert on PM v4, memory, swap files,
> DOS, or Win95.  In fact I know next to nothing about their internals.
> So my reasoning is mare speculation.
> 
> Sushenjit

In case anyone is interested, I finally got PM version 3 to install
after many hours of copying files to temporary directories to use up
all that space (over 4GB).  Could not resize the same partition that
PM was running in, so still ended up having to reboot from floppy and
use the command line text mode version.  At least it was a native
OS/2 executable.  After resizing it refused to move it--said there
was a bad sector on either the source partition or the target.  That
was the only explanation, and when the operation was 96% complete.

Incidentally, I still had to do the install before this, because the
command-line program is compressed on the CD and is not addressable
until after installation.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                17-Oct-99 21:04:17
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

David Kunz wrote:
> 
> J. R. Fox (jr_fox@earthlink.net) wrote:
> 
> : Rod Smith wrote:
> 
> : > 1) Version 4 is, overall, better.  It includes support for more
> : >    filesystems and larger hard disks.  (IIRC, PM 3 maxes out at
> : >    8GB, which is getting a bit tight these days.)
> 
> : Doubt this.  I've used PM-3 on 9G drives.
> 
> Same problem as other posters here.  Seems to be BIOS based.  If
> you're booted to DOS and can see the disk, Partition Magic can handle
> it.  If you can't, neither can PM...
> 
> I've had it be able to handle 9 gig scsi drives, but not 9 gig IDE
> drives.  Can see the SCSI drive from DOS, can't see the 9 gig IDE
> (not from win95 either -- but OS/2 can see it with no problems).

The PM-3 command-line program is not a DOS program, it is an OS/2
command-line program.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                17-Oct-99 21:12:19
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

/2 User wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:52:51 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:
> 
> >Unfortunately, Indelible Blue's download link merely takes you to the
> >same IBM site I was trying before.  You can't download either the one
> >with the encryption or the pluginpack, but you can download the non-
> >encrypted one.
> 
> I got mine at
> http://www-4.ibm.com/software/os/warp/netscape/ns461.html#download
> 
> It does seem to take 5 minutes before the page will turn after you click the
> dialogues.
> Be patient.
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That is the exact same page I was trying.  I did get a new page after
clicking on GO, but it was an error message:

     Internal Server Error

     malformed header from script. Bad header=tm

     Apache/1.3.2 Server at www.software.ibm.com Port 80

It's OK now, though, 'cuz I was able to get it by going through
Software Choice.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 18-Oct-99 02:49:25
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 10:22:24
Subj: Re: RMVIEW

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
spake unto us, saying:

>Well, here, on a stock IBM Intellistation, the Intel NIC card, with
>latest driver, does not get detected. (If I needed it, I am sure R.
>Steiner could tell me why not, and how to fix it.) More important is
>that I am sure others have reported similar problems. in newsgroups.

I ran into a problem with the bundled OS/2 drivers for that NIC (an
Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B with "Wake on Lan") when I put OS/2 on my
first IntelliStation, at least if I recall correctly, but the ones I
had bundled with the store-bought EEPro/100B on my Micron box worked
just fine.  Go figure.  :-)

I don't know why it happens -- I just know that the use of a different
version of the drivers fixed my particular problem.

FWIW, the NIC in that box is recognized by the universe.  I've not yet
upgraded Solaris 2.6 to Solaris 7, but even BeOS and FreeBSD see that
card with no problems.  IBM chose a good NIC!

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           We're not LOST, we're locationally challenged!

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From: csaba.raduly@sophos.com                           18-Oct-99 10:57:19
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 10:22:24
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com>

Alex Taylor wrote:
> 
> I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
> an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
> been changed or added, however.
> 
> According to the readme, however, scroll-wheels and sticks are
> still only supported for PS/2 mice.  (At least it now says so
> clearly.)
> 
> Does anyone know when/if IBM plans to include this functionality
> for serial mice?  Is it really so much more difficult and
> complicated?
> 
> Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been
> more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),
> but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
> more useful kind.
> 

It is changing, because most ATX motherboards already have a PS/2
mouse (and keyboard) connector.
'Useful' is a questionable word (PS/2 mice free up a COM port,
and with programs like ps2rate (even though it's a Windoze prog)
you can get higher responsiveness.

Csaba
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From: tulloch@modempool.com                             18-Oct-99 07:46:23
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 10:22:24
Subj: FA: 3 PS/2 Server 95's

From: Daniel Tulloch <tulloch@modempool.com>

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All 3 systems have the following in common:
********************************************
IBM PS/2 Server 95 Model 9595-1NG
486DX2-66 Intel Processor
95A Planar which has 2 Serial/2 Parallel onboard
IBM SVGA Adapter /A
400W Power Supply
2.88MB FDD
Adaptec AHA-1640 SCSI Adapter
*******************************************

Specific to system:

Server 95 #1

IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
32MB ECC RAM
IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
Novell NE2 MCA NIC
IBM 400MB SCSI HDD

Server 95 #2

IBM SCSI Adapter /A
16MB Parity RAM
Quantum Pro-Drive LPS 240MB SCSI-2 HDD

Server 95 #3

IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
BusLogic BT-640A 32-bit SCSI-2 Adapter
48MB ECC RAM
IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
3Com Etherlink/MC TP NIC
IBM DSAS-3540 540MB SCSI-2 HDD
IBM WDS3200 212MB SCSI-2 HDD
Fujitsu M2624FA 520MB SCSI-2 HDD

Box only, No monitor, keyboard, or mouse.
Everything works excellent.
Low-level format and data integrity tests were performed on all DASD.
PC-DOS 7.0 installed.
PS/2 Server95 compatible with DOS, OS/2, Linux, Windows(3.X, 9X, NT)

Info@IBM:  Server95
Questions can be sent to:  tulloch@modempool.com

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<HTML>
All 3 systems have the following in common:
<BR>********************************************
<BR>IBM PS/2 Server 95 Model 9595-1NG
<BR>486DX2-66 Intel Processor
<BR>95A Planar which has 2 Serial/2 Parallel onboard
<BR>IBM SVGA Adapter /A
<BR>400W Power Supply
<BR>2.88MB FDD
<BR>Adaptec AHA-1640 SCSI Adapter
<BR>*******************************************

<P>Specific to system:<A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=183176920"></A>

<P><A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=183176920">Server
95 #1</A>
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
<BR>32MB ECC RAM
<BR>IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
<BR>Novell NE2 MCA NIC
<BR>IBM 400MB SCSI HDD
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR><A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=183179020">Server
95 #2</A>
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>IBM SCSI Adapter /A
<BR>16MB Parity RAM
<BR>Quantum Pro-Drive LPS 240MB SCSI-2 HDD
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR><A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=183263493">Server
95 #3</A>
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
<BR>BusLogic BT-640A 32-bit SCSI-2 Adapter
<BR>48MB ECC RAM
<BR>IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
<BR>3Com Etherlink/MC TP NIC
<BR>IBM DSAS-3540 540MB SCSI-2 HDD
<BR>IBM WDS3200 212MB SCSI-2 HDD
<BR>Fujitsu M2624FA 520MB SCSI-2 HDD
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>Box only, No monitor, keyboard, or mouse.
<BR>Everything works excellent.
<BR>Low-level format and data integrity tests were performed on all DASD.
PC-DOS 7.0 installed.
<BR>PS/2 Server95 compatible with DOS, OS/2, Linux, Windows(3.X, 9X, NT)

<P>Info@IBM:&nbsp; <A
HREF="http://www.can.ibm.com/helpware/9595.html">Server95</A>
<BR>Questions can be sent to:&nbsp; <A
HREF="mailto:tulloch@modempool.com">tulloch@modempool.com</A></HTML>

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From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell...               18-Oct-99 13:47:05
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers!

Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net

From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)

[Posted and mailed]

In article <380A587F.A7C9416A@maui.net>,
	John Twelker <twelker@maui.net> writes:
> Aloha from Maui,
> 
> I hope somebody can help me on a really dumb problem I'm having.
> 
> I received what I call "spamscum" and I deleted it.  Now, every day, it
> reappears so I delete it again.
> 
> This has gone on for some time ... so I looked at Netscape Trash and there
> was every single copy of the spamscum I deleted. So I deleted them all. The
> next day, the same spamscum reappeared on the current Inbox and every single
> trashed copy also reappeared in the Trash.
> 
> The bottom line is, I can't permanently delete that particular spamscum from
> either my Inbox or Trash ... but I can delete any other email without
> problem.  What's going on? I've even uninstalled Netscape and reinstalled it
> ... didn't make any difference at all.
> 
> Needless to say, this is really starting to bug me!

Is it the exact same message?  Check the headers to find out -- look for
the message ID line, in particular.  If it's the exact same message,
right down to the ID, then chances are the problem is at your ISP;
they're not deleting the message correctly from their system.  It's also
possible there's a bug in Netscape.  If the message is different each
time, then it's being sent again and again.  Inform the administrator of
the system that's sending the message, and your ISP if necessary (I posted
a lengthy message saying how to track down the person to contact about
spam in this thread a few days ago).

-- 
Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     18-Oct-99 12:28:23
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

In <3809e887$1$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net
(Harry Travis) writes:
>In <7ub27g$nqr$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/16/99 
>   at 11:37 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:
>> [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc - sorry I missed this before]
>
>>    ...On IRQ use reported by RMVIEW with no associated driver...
>
>>In <3807dde0$1001$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>>htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) writes: >In
>><7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99  >   at 12:50 AM,
>>frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said: --snip--
>>>>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>>>>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>>>>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>>>>see what you're talking about?
>>--snip--
>>>I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.
>>>
>>>This from rmview /irq
>>>
>>>RMVIEW: Physical view
>>--snip--
>>>Notice that IRQ 15 isn't shown. It has a cheapie symbios  isa scsi card
>>>on it, assigned with a /override /irq=15 option. 
>
>>>Here is some of the output from rmview /d
>
>>--snip--
>>>IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
>>--snip--
>
>>>Above each of the lines in this excerpt are the gory details of the
>>>device which claims the irq. 
>
>>Harry,
>
>>I believe you're seeing what you're seeing... I just wish I could  make
>>some sense of it. (;-)
>
>I miswrote: What I meant, as any reader can verify on his/her own
>system, ist that in the output of rmview /d produces voluminous output,
>including the "gory details" associated with each irq claimed BUT THOSE
>GORY DETAILS WERE NOT QUOTED HERE

Harry,

Yes, I was hoping that you _would_ post what RMVIEW /D shows on your
system for IRQ 15.  I'd like to get some idea of what kind of driver is
involved when (per your original report) RMVIEW /D reports that IRQ15 is
in use, but RMVIEW /IRQ shows no entry for IRQ15.  For example, here's
the driver associated with IRQ14 on my system (I've clipped out RMVIEW's
blank lines):

Driver: IBM1S506.ADD  -  ISA DMA Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD 
Vendor: IBM Corp.  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 4/21/1999 
Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
  Adapter: IDE_0 ST506/IDE Controller 
  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  I/O = 0X01F0  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16 
  I/O = 0X03F6  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16 

So on my system (shock! surprise! (;-)) IRQ14 is used by the IBM1S506 
driver. What driver does RMVIEW /D think is associated with IRQ15 on 
your system?

P.S.  Your news poster is apparently sending me a copy of each of your
posts via e-mail.  This can get a bit confusing, since now I have to
wait a couple of days to see if you've posted something before replying
to (or discarding) your e-mail.



Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: coville@localnet.com                              18-Oct-99 13:20:09
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Re: Lost REXX

From: coville@localnet.com (Brian)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:56:52, "Graham C. Norris" 
<norrisg@linkline.com> wrote:

> Symptoms, symptoms, symptoms! What happens? What does it say? Does it
> trap? Does it hang? Give people SOMETHING to go on if you want help.
> 
> Graham.

THis startup command w/ the included rexx command did work before.  
Now running this startup.cmd w/ the included rexx command I get:

C:
cd\MMOS2\AP
os2sound.bat
E:\OFFICE\RELISH\STARTNOW
E:
cd\OS2APPS\blanker
start blanker.exe -
C:\
/* Select Shutdown Sound Effect */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs','RexxUtil','SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs
'@echo off'

/*Disable Startup Sound Effect*/
call SysIni 
'c:\mmos2\mmpm.ini','MMPM2_AlarmSounds','7','#Systemstartup#60'X2C('00
')

/* Select Shutdown Sound Effect */
call SysFileTree 'c:\mmos2\sounds\shutdown\*.wav',shutdown,'o'
ix=Random(1,shutdown.0)
call Sysini 'c:\mmos2\mmpm.ini','MMPM2_AlarmSounds', 
'8',shutdown.ix'#Systemshutdown#60'X2C('00')

/*Select Startup Sound Effect*/
call SysFileTree 'c:\mmos2\sounds\startup\*.wav',startup,'o'
ix=Random(1,startup.0)

/*Play Startup Sound Effect*/
'call play file='startup.ix

I can capture these results:

SYS1041: The name Sysini is not recognized as an
internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
[E:\OS2APPS\blanker]

[E:\OS2APPS\blanker]/*Select Startup Sound Effect*/

[E:\OS2APPS\blanker]call SysFileTree 
'c:\mmos2\sounds\startup\*.wav',startup,'o'

SYS1041: The name SysFileTree is not recognized as an
internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

[E:\OS2APPS\blanker]ix=Random(1,startup.0)
SYS1041: The name ix is not recognized as an
internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
[E:\OS2APPS\blanker]

[E:\OS2APPS\blanker]/*Play Startup Sound Effect*/

[E:\OS2APPS\blanker]'call play file='startup.ix
SYS1041: The name 'call is not recognized as an
internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           18-Oct-99 13:43:26
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Re: Lost REXX

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:20:19, coville@localnet.com (Brian) wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:56:52, "Graham C. Norris" 
> <norrisg@linkline.com> wrote:
> 
> > Symptoms, symptoms, symptoms! What happens? What does it say? Does it
> > trap? Does it hang? Give people SOMETHING to go on if you want help.
> > 
> > Graham.
> 
> THis startup command w/ the included rexx command did work before.  
> Now running this startup.cmd w/ the included rexx command I get:
> 

If this is the start of the 'STARTUP.CMD' file
try putting a /* */ at the beginning of the file
and place "'" (that's a single quote) around the
first eight (8) lines.

IE:

'C:'
'cd\MMOS2\AP'

OR - split this into two files (one STARTUP.CMD and
the other STARTREX.CMD and call the STARTREX
file from STARTUP. The REXX file would have all the
stuff after the initial /* Select Shutdown Sound Effect */
line.

> C:
> cd\MMOS2\AP
> os2sound.bat
> E:\OFFICE\RELISH\STARTNOW
> E:
> cd\OS2APPS\blanker
> start blanker.exe -
> C:\
> /* Select Shutdown Sound Effect */
> call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs','RexxUtil','SysLoadFuncs'
> call SysLoadFuncs
> '@echo off'
> 
> /*Disable Startup Sound Effect*/
> call SysIni 
> 'c:\mmos2\mmpm.ini','MMPM2_AlarmSounds','7','#Systemstartup#60'X2C('00
> ')
> 
> /* Select Shutdown Sound Effect */
> call SysFileTree 'c:\mmos2\sounds\shutdown\*.wav',shutdown,'o'
> ix=Random(1,shutdown.0)
> call Sysini 'c:\mmos2\mmpm.ini','MMPM2_AlarmSounds', 
> '8',shutdown.ix'#Systemshutdown#60'X2C('00')
> 
> /*Select Startup Sound Effect*/
> call SysFileTree 'c:\mmos2\sounds\startup\*.wav',startup,'o'
> ix=Random(1,startup.0)
> 
> /*Play Startup Sound Effect*/
> 'call play file='startup.ix
> 
> I can capture these results:
> 

At this point the CMD command line processor is trying to
execute your REXX commands and cannot do it as the
REXX processor is only loaded if the FIRST line in the
file is a /*  */ comment line

> SYS1041: The name Sysini is not recognized as an
> internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]/*Select Startup Sound Effect*/
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]call SysFileTree 
> 'c:\mmos2\sounds\startup\*.wav',startup,'o'
> 
> SYS1041: The name SysFileTree is not recognized as an
> internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]ix=Random(1,startup.0)
> SYS1041: The name ix is not recognized as an
> internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]/*Play Startup Sound Effect*/
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]'call play file='startup.ix
> SYS1041: The name 'call is not recognized as an
> internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
> 

Lorne Sunley

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From: tbruijn.nospam@rullet.leidenuniv.nl               18-Oct-99 13:47:24
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: tbruijn.nospam@rullet.leidenuniv.nl (TB)

In article <380AEF12.9874EABB@sophos.com>, Csaba Raduly
<csaba.raduly@sophos.com> wrote:
>Alex Taylor wrote:
>> 
>> I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
>> an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
>> been changed or added, however.
>> 
Hi

There was a problem, at least on my machine, with the mousedriver and 
Suspend-mode (ATX). The mouse driver would crash the system on wake-up. The 
older mouse-driver (without scrollsupport) didn't have this prob.

Th

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From: twelker@maui.net                                  17-Oct-99 19:15:05
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers!

From: John Twelker <twelker@maui.net>

Aloha from Maui,

I hope somebody can help me on a really dumb problem I'm having.

I received what I call "spamscum" and I deleted it.  Now, every day, it
reappears so I delete it again.

This has gone on for some time ... so I looked at Netscape Trash and there
was every single copy of the spamscum I deleted. So I deleted them all. The
next day, the same spamscum reappeared on the current Inbox and every single
trashed copy also reappeared in the Trash.

The bottom line is, I can't permanently delete that particular spamscum from
either my Inbox or Trash ... but I can delete any other email without
problem.  What's going on? I've even uninstalled Netscape and reinstalled it
... didn't make any difference at all.

Needless to say, this is really starting to bug me!

--
John Twelker
Naish Sails Hawaii, Maui Sales Rep
RaceManPro Windsurfing Software, Co-Developer
http://www.ultranet.com/~lefebvre/RaceManPro/

Coming soon: "John Twelker's Windsurfing Webpage" on maui.net

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Still happily running OS/2 Warp 4.0 for the third year ... while we still
have a choice.


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From: David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net                      18-Oct-99 00:01:13
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>

I might as well add my response to all the others... I've never installed
WinNT and have used it very little, but I've installed and used Win3.0 up
through Win98, and OS/2 2.0, 2.1, and 3.0 and installed three different
distributions of Linux.

I grudgingly gave up OS/2 because it seemed to me that it's future didn't look
too good, from a applications standpoint. But I did enjoy it and can reiterate
that it's much more stable than Win95/98. In fact there's really no
comparison. Installation was pretty easy, and very easy if you accept FAT for
the filesystem. If you want to use OS/2's filesystem HPFS, then installation
is more difficult. Linux, in my view, is pretty difficult to install, but once
it's installed, forget it. It'll never crash under any circumstances. Linux is
now my OS of choice, but I can boot to Win98 if I wish. To get completely free
of any MS software is a very refreshing experience.

Dave

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From: twelker@maui.net                                  17-Oct-99 19:03:21
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: Re: USB mouse support?

From: John Twelker <twelker@maui.net>


John Hong wrote:

> Stan Goodman (l_luciano@da.mob) wrote:
>
> : Many thanks for both the responses to the query. I misphrased the
question:
> : This is not a MB question; the fact that the board has a USB port is the
> : reason I asked the question.
>
>         No, no...in a way, it was a MB question.  OS/2's current USB
> driver only supports the (I now I have this spelled wrong) UHCPI USB
> chipset which is only on Intel and VIA chipset motherboards.  OHCPI is
> what is being used for SiS, ALi, and Opti motherboards and those will not
> work under OS/2 where USB is concerned since the current OS/2 driver for
> it will not support OHCPI.

Aloha from Maui,

I bought a PCI USB I/O Card with VIA chipset and it still wouldn't run USB
Devices under OS/2 ... until I applied Robert Lalla's modified USB driver ...
now
it works fine. Apparently the VIA chipset isn't perfect yet. If you can find a
PCI USB I/O Card with Intel chipset, you should be in good shape.

--
John Twelker
RaceManPro Windsurfing Software, Co-Developer
http://www.ultranet.com/~lefebvre/RaceManPro/
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Still happily running OS/2 Warp 4.0 for the third year ... while we still have 
a
choice.


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From: mamodeo@stny.rr.com                               18-Oct-99 10:50:14
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: help!!! PGCC is not working

From: Marty <mamodeo@stny.rr.com>

"G. van der Veer" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When I run any program (for example Squid) compiled in PGCC 1.1.3 or
> below I get the following message:
> 
> SYS0191: GCC29166 cannot be run in an OS/2 session.

This can happen in a DLL when the DLL itself is dynamically linked to
other DLLs and it can't find one of them.

For example:
My_Exe.EXE is linked to GCC29166.DLL which is dynamically linked to
BLAH.DLL which can't be found.  This error message would be reported if
you tried to run My_Exe.EXE.

- Marty

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From: esko.kauppinen@ibm.net                            18-Oct-99 15:20:18
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:56:02 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

>I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
>an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
>been changed or added, however.

I don't know what they have changed but it sure is much
better now.

I used to have odd system hangs with my Wheel Mouse when
i used the scroll wheel in various situations.
After installing this latest driver all hangs have disappeared :-)

It used to be so bad I was afraid to touch the scroll wheel when
some windows were opening. That was when it often hang.

This is not a serial mouse but just wanted to report that for
my system this new driver is just what the doctor ordered!

Esko


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From: letoured@nospam.net                               18-Oct-99 10:16:24
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: FA: 3 PS/2 Server 95's

From: letoured@nospam.net

In <380B08A5.F9B747D7@modempool.com>, on 10/18/99 
   at 07:46 AM, Daniel Tulloch <tulloch@modempool.com> said:


Stop spamming us





>All 3 systems have the following in common:
>********************************************
>IBM PS/2 Server 95 Model 9595-1NG
>486DX2-66 Intel Processor
>95A Planar which has 2 Serial/2 Parallel onboard
>IBM SVGA Adapter /A
>400W Power Supply
>2.88MB FDD
>Adaptec AHA-1640 SCSI Adapter
>*******************************************

>Specific to system:

>Server 95 #1

>IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
>32MB ECC RAM
>IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
>Novell NE2 MCA NIC
>IBM 400MB SCSI HDD

>Server 95 #2

>IBM SCSI Adapter /A
>16MB Parity RAM
>Quantum Pro-Drive LPS 240MB SCSI-2 HDD

>Server 95 #3

>IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
>BusLogic BT-640A 32-bit SCSI-2 Adapter
>48MB ECC RAM
>IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
>3Com Etherlink/MC TP NIC
>IBM DSAS-3540 540MB SCSI-2 HDD
>IBM WDS3200 212MB SCSI-2 HDD
>Fujitsu M2624FA 520MB SCSI-2 HDD

>Box only, No monitor, keyboard, or mouse.
>Everything works excellent.
>Low-level format and data integrity tests were performed on all DASD.
>PC-DOS 7.0 installed.
>PS/2 Server95 compatible with DOS, OS/2, Linux, Windows(3.X, 9X, NT)

>Info@IBM:  Server95
>Questions can be sent to:  tulloch@modempool.com

>-<Attachment #1, unnamed (1760 bytes), text/html 7bit>-
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           18-Oct-99 10:21:26
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: no music from cdplayer

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <3809feb2$2$qnivfs$mr2ice@news.logical.net>, on 10/17/99 at 12:52 PM,
   nemo@union.edu said:


> 'Farkled'? Well, no, not really, but I've had some problems with a
> couple of apps; this multimedia thing is the first thing that might
> point to systemic issues, I think. Actually, I've been pleased with the
> overall stability. 

> Question: If I reinstall multimedia, I guess I'll have to reinstall FP10
> or perhaps preferably, install FP12? 

First you must Uninstall Multimedia. Then reinstall it from the
distribution CD. Then apply the appropriate fixpack. Remember, if you have
added any MM plugins to netscape, thinks like Quicktime, etc. they will
also likely have to be reinstalled.


> F.

> -----------------------------------------------------------
>       Felmon John Davis		
>      davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
>      Union College /  Schenectady, NY
>      - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
>      OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
> -----------------------------------------------------------



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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 9
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void                      17-Oct-99 15:37:12
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman)

On 10/17/99 at 02:08 PM, 99078729 <99078729@brookes.ac.uk> said:

>Linux easy to install? I fonud Linux a nightmare compared to an NT
>installation. However I do agree that Linux is a more stable OS, but
>Linux and NT are two different OS's and will probably require two
>different mind-sets to get round them. I'm an NT man but I've installed
>Linux on one of my machines. Right now I'd say that NT is more user
>friendly, but I'm sure there are loads of people will say Linux is
>better. In some ways I agree but remember that out there the everyday
>users are not into writing code or hacking in general.

>You can pretty much forget os2.... support for that operating system is
>dropping.

Do you think you had this cross posted to enough news groups?  Great, yet
another moron who's found his way to comp.os.os2.*, with nothing
intelligent to say.

Welcome to my kill file.

Sander Nyman

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              18-Oct-99 15:57:09
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: How much Performance improvement with JFS?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Carsten Frank wrote:
> 
> How much faster is JFS compared to hpfs386 with 30MB Cache

    30 MB! Wow.
    I have seen several testimonial-type postings about the relative
speeds of JFS and HPFS386. So far the performance is comparable. JFS has
more overall functionality, eg, the transaction-type disk writes which
make crash recovery so fast.
    The only advantage HPFS386 has over JFS that I have seen is its
ability to limit users' disk usage. Odd that that is not one of JFS's
attributes.


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sma at rtd dot com
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From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void                      17-Oct-99 15:43:26
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman)

On 10/17/99 at 11:04 AM, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:

>I was finally able to download the plugin pack by going through the
>Software Choice path.  The cost of a Software Choice subscription is far
>beyond my means.  Without a subscription, how was I able to  successfully
>download this file when I couldn't from the other path?

IMB's new policy does not become effective until Janauary 1, 2000..

Sander Nyman

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               18-Oct-99 12:22:10
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - HELP!

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

James Moe wrote:
>      Actually, there is indeed a time when the swapper grew beyond 64
> MB. I have Navigator's disk cache set to 0 and the memory cache to
> 99,999; this forces Nav to use RAM and the system swapper for caching.
> When I download anything that exceeds available RAM, it goes into the
> swap file. A couple of times I was downloading enormous files (60 - 100
> MB, *not* using a dial-up!) and the swap file was used to handle the
> overflow.
>     Other than that I cannot think of a time when I could have used a
> larger swap file.
>     Although it does seem to be true that Java programs really eat up
> RAM....

	Java programs can be very memory hungry, especially if the developer
hasn't attempted to do intelligent memory management.  Still, looking at
running Java processes using Theseus 3, it seems like sometimes it's the
runtime environment that is chewing up a lot of extra memory I've seen
Java proceses chew up over 20Mb of memory, only to go down to .5Mb
later).

	On my box here I'm running with 128Mb of RAM, and my SWAPPER is
currently about 110Mb in size.  Admittedly, this machine is running a
LAN Server, Lotus Notes, Communicator v4.61, jSyncManager, Norton
AntiVirus and a few other programs constantly (ie: 24*7), and doesn't go
through a reboot very often.  Thankfully the drive is fast enough and I
have enough RAM that a swap file of this size doesn't impact my
performence much, but it's still quite a big bigger than 64Mb :).

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               18-Oct-99 11:53:23
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
> >       99% of the time this error is displayed because you are running out
> >of disk space on the drive containing the INI file in question, and
> >there is insufficient space to write the data safely to disk.
> 
> Are you SURE 320MB of free space on the drive isn't enough for the
> OS2.INI (which is normally about 0.1% of this??????

	I didn't know you had 320Mb of free space on your drive, now did I? :)

	Either way, if your SWAPPER manages to grow to take up most of this
space, then no, it may not be enough.
 
> >       Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a
> >smaller size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during
> >the normal timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up
> 
> My SWAPPER of 290MB is not supposed to grow.....

	Unless you've specified this in your CONFIG.SYS:

		MEMMAN=NOSWAP

	...then the OS is allowed to "grow" the size of the swap file anytime
it wants.  It's true that with that sort of size it probably shouldn't,
but it all depends on what you're running and how much memory your tasks
are committing to the swapper.

	And to re-iterate, my suggestion was prefixed with the disclaimer that
frespace is the problem "99% of the time".  You may be in that 1% where
the problem is something else (have you tried running a CHKDSK /F:2 on
the partition recently?).

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 18-Oct-99 16:13:09
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:13:50, james.arnold@!!!usa.net wrote:

> 	The problem you are running into is the well known "2Gb limit". The Install
> programme is calculating the remaining free disk space using a 32 bit signed 
integer.
> A 32 bit signed integer will hold a number of 2**32-1 which is 1 less than 2 
GB.
> You need to install Partition Magic to a disk with less than 2Gb free space
and then
> move it to your large partition or create a large temp file that will leave
you with
> less than 2 Gb free on your target partition.
> 
> 	As I recall there is a DOS version of Partition Magic on the CD that you
could
> use to reduce the size of your target partition. Boot up DOS, reduce the
size of your
> partition, boot into OS/2 install Partition Magic, shut down OS/2 and boot
up DOS
> again and use the DOS version to resize the partition back to its original
size.
> 
> 	Take which ever option is easier for you.
> 
> 	Jim


Jim, 

Just to let you know that there is no problem installing Partition Magic 
v3.05 to a big hard disk. Just to make sure I just tested to install to a 
freshly partitioned and HPFS formatted disk of 6.3GB. It took two, maybe 
three minutes. No problem what so ever! Just go to the CD, change to 
directory OS2 and run SETUP.EXE.

Jan Swartling
 Blue Soft
 Sweden

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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 18-Oct-99 16:12:25
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:03:21, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:

> Jan Swartling wrote:
> > 
> > I believe you have to give a lot more detailed information on the hard
> > disk you are trying to install Partition Magic on. Like size, partitions,
> > file formats, primary, logical, etc. Then someone may be able to help.
> > Jan Swartling
> 
> It's an 8.2 GB drive with two primary partitions and two logical 
> drives in the extended partition.  Boot Manager is one primary 
> partition even though I only have one OS installed right now.  
> Second primary partition is 455 MB and dedicated to the OS.  D: 
> is 133 MB and is dedicated to my swap file. E: is 7.3 GB with 6.2GB 
> free (I know this doesn't add up to 8.2GB, but that's what my system
> reports--probably different because of different methods of 
> calculating what is a GB).  I am trying to install PM to the E: drive.
> All drives are formatted HPFS.
> Dale Erwin

Dale, 

If you go to the CD and to the OS2 directory and try to run the SETUP.EXE 
(e.g. x:\OS2\SETUP), what error or messages do you get?

What is your disk's geometri? Cylinders, Heads, Sectors? (The translated 
ones, not the hard disks original.)

Jan 

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      18-Oct-99 17:42:21
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Alex Taylor [@Home Network Canada] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been 
¯ more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),

In the 80 it was serial mouses who ruled (sure, bus mouses and PS/2 was
available in the later half, but did not rule the market). In the 90 it has
been PS/2 who has ruled almost alone, but now USB has finally started to
replace that (and I think it will be USB mouses who rules in 2000).

¯ but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
¯ more useful kind.

Hardly.

But I agree, it would be good if IBM supported that as well (the PS/2 port is
almost the same as a serial port, just another connector and memory address).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 18-Oct-99 16:09:13
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:03
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 01:04:34, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:

> 
> The PM-3 command-line program is not a DOS program, it is an OS/2
> command-line program.

If you boot to DOS, go to the directory where you installed Partition 
Magic v3 and type PQMAGIC.EXE the program will run in DOS mode.

You can't however install directly to DOS. You need a Window running (at 
least Win3.x ) or OS/2.

Jan Swartling 
 Blue soft
 Sweden

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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 18-Oct-99 16:12:27
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:03
Subj: Re: What's going on in OS/2-dos

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:13:50, james.arnold@!!!usa.net wrote:

> 	The problem you are running into is the well known "2Gb limit". The Install
> programme is calculating the remaining free disk space using a 32 bit signed 
integer.
> A 32 bit signed integer will hold a number of 2**32-1 which is 1 less than 2 
GB.
> You need to install Partition Magic to a disk with less than 2Gb free space
and then
> move it to your large partition or create a large temp file that will leave
you with
> less than 2 Gb free on your target partition.
> 
> 	As I recall there is a DOS version of Partition Magic on the CD that you
could
> use to reduce the size of your target partition. Boot up DOS, reduce the
size of your
> partition, boot into OS/2 install Partition Magic, shut down OS/2 and boot
up DOS
> again and use the DOS version to resize the partition back to its original
size.
> 
> 	Take which ever option is easier for you.
> 
> 	Jim


Jim, 

Just to let you know that there is no problem installing Partition Magic 
v3.05 to a big hard disk. Just to make sure I just tested to install to a 
freshly partitioned and HPFS formatted disk of 6.3GB. It took two, maybe 
three minutes. No problem what so ever! Just go to the CD, change to 
directory OS2 and run SETUP.EXE.

Jan Swartling
 Blue Soft
 Sweden

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                18-Oct-99 14:41:29
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Netscape cache messing up

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Netscape 4.61:  The cache has started messing up in general just recently. 
I've
cleared out both memory cache and disk cache, turned them off etc., but I
still
keep seeing web pages re-download over and over.

And the download restart cache is gone.  Stopping a download from the cancel
button or the exit window click box used to result in a restart picking up
where
it left off, even after Netscape was taken down started.

Something has screwed up here and I have no idea what to do for it.

Help?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: derwin@airmail.net                                18-Oct-99 12:29:23
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Lost REXX

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Brian wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:56:52, "Graham C. Norris"
> <norrisg@linkline.com> wrote:
> 
> > Symptoms, symptoms, symptoms! What happens? What does it say? Does it
> > trap? Does it hang? Give people SOMETHING to go on if you want help.
> >
> > Graham.
> 
> THis startup command w/ the included rexx command did work before.
> Now running this startup.cmd w/ the included rexx command I get:
> 
> C:
> cd\MMOS2\AP
> os2sound.bat
> E:\OFFICE\RELISH\STARTNOW
> E:
> cd\OS2APPS\blanker
> start blanker.exe -
> C:\
> /* Select Shutdown Sound Effect */
> call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs','RexxUtil','SysLoadFuncs'
> call SysLoadFuncs
> '@echo off'
> 
> /*Disable Startup Sound Effect*/
> call SysIni
> 'c:\mmos2\mmpm.ini','MMPM2_AlarmSounds','7','#Systemstartup#60'X2C('00
> ')
> 
> /* Select Shutdown Sound Effect */
> call SysFileTree 'c:\mmos2\sounds\shutdown\*.wav',shutdown,'o'
> ix=Random(1,shutdown.0)
> call Sysini 'c:\mmos2\mmpm.ini','MMPM2_AlarmSounds',
> '8',shutdown.ix'#Systemshutdown#60'X2C('00')
> 
> /*Select Startup Sound Effect*/
> call SysFileTree 'c:\mmos2\sounds\startup\*.wav',startup,'o'
> ix=Random(1,startup.0)
> 
> /*Play Startup Sound Effect*/
> 'call play file='startup.ix
> 
> I can capture these results:
> 
> SYS1041: The name Sysini is not recognized as an
> internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]/*Select Startup Sound Effect*/
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]call SysFileTree
> 'c:\mmos2\sounds\startup\*.wav',startup,'o'
> 
> SYS1041: The name SysFileTree is not recognized as an
> internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]ix=Random(1,startup.0)
> SYS1041: The name ix is not recognized as an
> internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]/*Play Startup Sound Effect*/
> 
> [E:\OS2APPS\blanker]'call play file='startup.ix
> SYS1041: The name 'call is not recognized as an
> internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

All REXX procedures MUST begin with a comment.  It doesn't matter what's
in the comment or indeed if there is anything in the comment, but it
has to begin with a comment.  That's they way the system knows to call
the REXX interpreter for that .CMD file.

Try inserting any comment line at the very beginning of the file, e.g.:

/* REXX procedure */

or even

/*  */
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        18-Oct-99 18:40:15
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:42:42 +0200, Martin Nisshagen
<forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se> wrote:
> ¯ Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been 
> ¯ more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),
> 
> In the 80 it was serial mouses who ruled (sure, bus mouses and PS/2 was
> available in the later half, but did not rule the market). In the 90 it has
> been PS/2 who has ruled almost alone, but now USB has finally started to
> replace that (and I think it will be USB mouses who rules in 2000).

A USB mouse probably would be a useful investment... once it's fully
supported under all platforms.  The time is soon approaching, I think,
but not quite yet...

> ¯ but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
> ¯ more useful kind.
> 
> Hardly.

Why is that?

In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not
but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.
Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)

For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_
more valuable than serial ports.  In my experience, most people use 1
serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another
available for a mouse.  Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4.

I freely admit that for many people, serial ports are in fact more valuable
than IRQs... (laptop users for example, or those using funky peripherals,
UPSs, etc.)  But I think such people are in the minority.

The fact that PS/2 mice seem to be becoming more and more common has
annoyed me for some time.  (Ever since I had a job installing NICs, and
kept finding no IRQs free because of that PS/2 mouse sitting there when
there were two perfectly good serial ports free, forcing me to pull out
their modem or sound card.)  They are certainly useful, even preferable,
in a number if situations.  But for most "normal" users, I don't think that
is so.

What am I missing?

> But I agree, it would be good if IBM supported that as well (the PS/2 port
is
> almost the same as a serial port, just another connector and memory
address).

Of course, the trick is getting that message to IBM...  I don't suppose
any of their people here is responsible for those drivers?  :)

-- 
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        18-Oct-99 18:27:03
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:57:38 +0100, Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com>
wrote:
> > Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been
> > more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),
> > but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
> > more useful kind.
> 
> It is changing, because most ATX motherboards already have a PS/2
> mouse (and keyboard) connector.
> 'Useful' is a questionable word (PS/2 mice free up a COM port,

True, but they eat up an IRQ, which to many people are more precious.

> and with programs like ps2rate (even though it's a Windoze prog)
> you can get higher responsiveness.

How much higher?  On any system with PS/2 mice I've used, I've seen
no difference in performance with serial mouse systems.

-- 
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   18-Oct-99 14:25:00
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <7uf3pv$gk0$1@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/18/99 
   at 12:28 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:

>In <3809e887$1$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net
>(Harry Travis) writes:
>>In <7ub27g$nqr$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/16/99 
>>   at 11:37 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:
>>> [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc - sorry I missed this before]
>>
>>>    ...On IRQ use reported by RMVIEW with no associated driver...
>>
>>>In <3807dde0$1001$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>>>htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) writes: >In
>>><7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99  >   at 12:50 AM,
>>>frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said: --snip--
>>>>>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>>>>>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>>>>>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>>>>>see what you're talking about?
>>>--snip--
>>>>I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.
>>>>
>>>>This from rmview /irq
>>>>
>>>>RMVIEW: Physical view
>>>--snip--

>Harry,

>Yes, I was hoping that you _would_ post what RMVIEW /D shows on your
>system for IRQ 15.  I'd like to get some idea of what kind of driver is
>involved when (per your original report) RMVIEW /D reports that IRQ15
>is in use, but RMVIEW /IRQ shows no entry for IRQ15.  For example,
>here's the driver associated with IRQ14 on my system (I've clipped out
>RMVIEW's blank lines):

>Driver: IBM1S506.ADD  -  ISA DMA Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD 
>Vendor: IBM Corp.  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 4/21/1999  Flag:   STATIC    
>Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
>  Adapter: IDE_0 ST506/IDE Controller 
>  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
>  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
>  I/O = 0X01F0  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16 
>  I/O = 0X03F6  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16 

>So on my system (shock! surprise! (;-)) IRQ14 is used by the IBM1S506 
>driver. What driver does RMVIEW /D think is associated with IRQ15 on 
>your system?

RMVIEW/irq provides a pithy <20 line output file. Substitute /d for
/irq, and the report runs over 700 lines, (with blanks.) Here is the
portion of that >700 lines,  FWIW, on the isa SCSI card I've forced to
use irq 15, but which does not show up at all with rmview/irq.

Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver 
Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996 
Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  

BTW PNP also assigns IBM1S506.add to irq14 here, as well.
-- 
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htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
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From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca                          18-Oct-99 19:37:09
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

TB (tbruijn.nospam@rullet.leidenuniv.nl) wrote:
: In article <380AEF12.9874EABB@sophos.com>, Csaba Raduly
<csaba.raduly@sophos.com> wrote:
: >Alex Taylor wrote:
: >> 
: >> I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
: >> an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
: >> been changed or added, however.
: >> 
: Hi

: There was a problem, at least on my machine, with the mousedriver and 
: Suspend-mode (ATX). The mouse driver would crash the system on wake-up. The 
: older mouse-driver (without scrollsupport) didn't have this prob.

You probably missed re-fresh No.#2 which fixed this problem. The newest
one, if I'm keeping track properly, is refresh No.#3 and I'm not sure what
it fixes.

I eventually sprang for a new Logitech scroll mouse (oh no, $20CDN!!!),
PS/2 port because I needed the extra com port for my AceCad tablet.

I have not regretted the move!


Isaac

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    18-Oct-99 15:53:26
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: no music from cdplayer

From: nemo@union.edu

In <380b2d4a$8$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, on 10/18/99 
   at 10:21 AM, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> said:


>> 'Farkled'? Well, no, not really, but I've had some problems with a
>> couple of apps; this multimedia thing is the first thing that might
>> point to systemic issues, I think. Actually, I've been pleased with the
>> overall stability. 

>> Question: If I reinstall multimedia, I guess I'll have to reinstall FP10
>> or perhaps preferably, install FP12? 

>First you must Uninstall Multimedia. Then reinstall it from the
>distribution CD. Then apply the appropriate fixpack. Remember, if you
>have added any MM plugins to netscape, thinks like Quicktime, etc. they
>will also likely have to be reinstalled.

Ok, thanks. I'm hoping I won't have to do the reinstall but I needed to be
sure about the Fixpak issue. 

I should probably update to FP12 so perhaps this is the occasion for doing
so.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     18-Oct-99 19:54:21
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:37:53, piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) 
wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:55:05, mike@lionsgate.com wrote:
> 
> :The IBM marketing dept
> 
>  You mean to say such a thing actually exists??
> 
> -- 
> Klaatu barada nikto

Oh yes, the IBM Marketing dept exists. They are the ones who "run" the
company. They know all, and do all, within IBM (just ask one of them 
<g>). Most other companies would have fired most of them out the door,
years ago.
******************************
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     18-Oct-99 19:54:20
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Help with printer update

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:18:06, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> If someone who has installed OMNI could tell me there is an easy way to
update
> the printer drivers I'd appreciate it.
> 
> Is it not possible to copy the OMNI.* file into the proper directory, reboot 
and
> be done with it?
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
> 
> 

The EASY way, is to do EXACTLY what the README says to do.

Hope this helps...
******************************
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     18-Oct-99 19:54:20
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Hotmail security problem?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:25:28, Arnstein Prytz 
<Arnstein.Prytz@jcu.edu.au> wrote:

> If this is a proper hole and I'm not just thick as two short 
> planks, where else is a proper forum for posting this?
>  
> Regards, Arnstein 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Arnstein Prytz                                 Arnstein.Prytz@jcu.edu.au
> Department of Physics                                ph:  61-7-47815183
> James Cook University                            fax: 61-7-47815880
> Townsville, Queensland 4811, Australia
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

You might try webmaster@hotmail.com. Then again Hotmail is a Microsoft
thing, and is, probably, working to specs <g>.
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir                     18-Oct-99 19:30:16
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir

Hi...
I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to
another . does anyone know any way and protocol to done this
correctly ,when receiver doesn't know any thing about size or name of
transferring file ?
please send for me a mail if you have any source code or example or
know any good site to help me .
- thanks -


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net                            18-Oct-99 21:45:11
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net

In <380B428A.FFD6EF07@ca.ibm.com>, on 10/18/1999 
   at 11:53 AM, Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> said:

>> Are you SURE 320MB of free space on the drive isn't enough for the
>> OS2.INI (which is normally about 0.1% of this??????

>	I didn't know you had 320Mb of free space on your drive, now did I?
>:)

Sorry, though I didn't mention it in my very first message I did so
several times in later ones.

>> My SWAPPER of 290MB is not supposed to grow.....

>	Unless you've specified this in your CONFIG.SYS:

>		MEMMAN=NOSWAP

But of course I have not......, but the default MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT.

>	...then the OS is allowed to "grow" the size of the swap file
>anytime it wants.  It's true that with that sort of size it probably
>shouldn't, but it all depends on what you're running and how much
>memory your tasks are committing to the swapper.

>	And to re-iterate, my suggestion was prefixed with the disclaimer
>that frespace is the problem "99% of the time".  You may be in that
>1% where the problem is something else (have you tried running a
>CHKDSK /F:2 on the partition recently?).

No, maybe I should do so when I'm backing up and cleaning up every 2
weeks or so...

Did you see someone pointing in the direction of GRADFD + S3 Trio +
fullscreen DOS sessions? Though he was the only one to do so, it is a
fact that this all applies to me in this case. I'm running OS/2 since
2.1 and have many more or less serious problems over time, but never
this one..... Who knows he is right.


Frits

-- 
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.12 using MR/2 Ice 1.66

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                18-Oct-99 16:48:06
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Help with printer update

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>> Is it not possible to copy the OMNI.* file into the proper directory,
reboot and
>> be done with it?

>The EASY way, is to do EXACTLY what the README says to do.

I don't want to start a fight, but whoever wrote that readme really needs to
take a course in technical writing.  It is NOT easy to follow.  Especially
when
he suddenly throws in an ancient, old-wordly word like "diskette."  And when
he
jumps past some details here and there.

But after going over about 20 times I finally got it.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                18-Oct-99 16:53:02
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Help!  Can't create Utility Diskettes

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> said:

>this was to use the most up-to-date file versions installed from
>fixpacks in creating the utility disks rather than the downlevel GA files.  A
>great idea but a bug in the program prevented it from working if you checked
>the box.  If you don't check the box, the 4 utility boxes are still created
>from the GA files like always.  Apparently this bug is fixed in fixpack 12
for
>Warp v4.

It apparently was, but I have a different problem with it.  When I got to disk 
1
(second disk) it got to d:\os2\boot\lms206.add and halted with a disk full
error.  At that point the entire operation is halted.

 1.  Now what?

 2.  Big question.  Am I supposed to be able to start a whole new OS/2
installation using these utility disks?  If not, then we're back to the old
argument that OS/2 desperately needs a new CD.

I want to change my #2 machine from Warp 3 to Warp 4 (I run 4 on my main
machine), and I really don't look forward to trying to bring it up to date
manually.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         18-Oct-99 21:33:27
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:38:02 +0100, Richard Dakin wrote:
>> >> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
>> >> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their
>> >> > left foot
>>
>> You appear to be an ignorant troll.
>>
>> If you're going to post childish Linux bashing, atleast have the courtesy
>> to restrict it to Microsoft newsgroups where the other lemmings can
>> properly appreciate it.
>
>No I am not a troll, 

Could have fooled me.

>I just have a different opinion to you & I like NT.

In that case, we again have differing opinions. Your choice of expressing
your opinion makes you come across as an ignorant, 10 year old lemming who
wouldn't know the inside of his computer if he were shown a photograph.

In short - your message makes you sound ignorant, and there is no greater
sin than ignorance.

>I didn't start this thread, if you don't like my responses kill file me or
>remove the Linux groups from the list.

Pardon? Why should I remove the Linux groups? You're the one badmouthing
Linux, and since you left the Linux groups listed, it appears to me as if
you're looking to start a flame war.

Follow-up directed according to where your postings belong.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                18-Oct-99 17:00:09
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir said:

>I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to another 
.
>does anyone know any way and protocol to done this
>correctly ,when receiver doesn't know any thing about size or name of
>transferring file ?
>please send for me a mail if you have any source code or example or know any
>good site to help me .

I got sick of trying to get peer to peer set up and went the serial port
method. 
It can be a little time consuming if things aren't aren't already configured
similar to what you will need.

But I've had it up and running for some time using HALite from the Bonus Pak. 
You'll need a serial cable to start with of course.

Have you looked at HALite?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
 (Or in Lizzy's case, a hatchet.)


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From: egermain@mediaone.net                             18-Oct-99 23:00:15
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: Xywrite and OS/2 

From: egermain@mediaone.net (Edward Germain)

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:33:03, Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca> wrote:

> In comp.os.os2.apps Esther Schindler <esther@bitranch.com> wrote:
> : On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 02:49:38, Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca> wrote:
> : |         and some of us find XYwrite very fast.  It's still
> : |         sold by The Technology Group in Baltimore.
> 
Amazing.  It was the best of the best, but the sad, sad tale when it 
was sold to IBM and then wrecked in development (the product was to be
called "Signature"--I still have an alpha version around somewhere) 
and then abandoned by IBM--well it's too sad to be retold.

Thank you for the news that to some degree it is still alive!

--Ed Germain

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               18-Oct-99 17:37:23
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
> >       I didn't know you had 320Mb of free space on your drive, now did I?
> >:)
> 
> Sorry, though I didn't mention it in my very first message I did so
> several times in later ones.

	Sorry about that - I must have missed them :P.
 
> No, maybe I should do so when I'm backing up and cleaning up every 2
> weeks or so...

	It's probably a good idea.  My only other thought is that there are
some problems wiht the filesystem structure itself in places causing the
system to think that it's running low on space, or otherwise
encountering an error wihle attempting to commit sectors.  A good CHKDSK
would clean such poblems up (again, this is just a suggestion/guess :).
 
> Did you see someone pointing in the direction of GRADFD + S3 Trio +
> fullscreen DOS sessions? Though he was the only one to do so, it is a
> fact that this all applies to me in this case. I'm running OS/2 since
> 2.1 and have many more or less serious problems over time, but never
> this one..... Who knows he is right.

	I did notice that.  It might be worth your while investigating by
backing out of the GRADD drivers in question and seeing if it makes a
difference.  I run GRADD drivers at home (SciTech Preview 7 on an ATI
RagePro AGP 8Mb), and haven't seen this problem at all, but there could
be a bug in the S3 drivers that is causing somehting weird to occur :P.

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: mbatey@cixno.spamco.uk                            18-Oct-99 21:44:16
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: mbatey@cixno.spamco.uk (Maurice Batey)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:30:33, salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir wrote:

> I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to
> another 

There's the LPT package by Jan van Wijk, which transfers between 
parallel ports.

His E-mail addresses are (well, were, in 5/98): 

	lpt@fsys.demon.nl
	jvwijk@compuserve.com
	jan.van.wijk@cmg.nl

Maurice Batey 
(Change "no.spam" to "." in E-mail address.)

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From: davek@clark.net                                   18-Oct-99 22:57:16
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Dale Erwin (derwin@airmail.net) wrote:                                

: David Kunz wrote:                                                   
: > J. R. Fox (jr_fox@earthlink.net) wrote:
: > : Rod Smith wrote:
: > : > 1) Version 4 is, overall, better.  It includes support for
: > : >    more filesystems and larger hard disks.  (IIRC, PM 3 maxes 
: > : >    out at 8GB, which is getting a bit tight these days.)      

: > : Doubt this.  I've used PM-3 on 9G drives.                       

: > Same problem as other posters here.  Seems to be BIOS based.  If 
: > you're booted to DOS and can see the disk, Partition Magic can 
: > handle it.  If you can't, neither can PM...                       

: > I've had it be able to handle 9 gig scsi drives, but not 9 gig 
: > IDE drives.  Can see the SCSI drive from DOS, can't see the 9 gig 
: > IDE (not from win95 either -- but OS/2 can see it with no 
: > problems).                                                        

: The PM-3 command-line program is not a DOS program, it is an OS/2 
: command-line program.

My mistake, I was talking about PQ-4 and a lot of this thread was
PQ-4, I missed the PQ-3 aspect here...

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: benbowc@tui.lincoln.ac.nz                         19-Oct-99 07:49:19
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: LS120 How?

From: Craig Benbow <benbowc@tui.lincoln.ac.nz>

Don't ask me how but now it works!

Craig

Craig Benbow wrote:

> I remember someone posting all the switches for the latest IBMATAPI.FLT
> a while back to get an LS120 going.  Does anyone have a copy of that
> posting or suggestion on how to get OS/2 to see the drive.  The driver
> installs without fault but I can't access the drive.
>
> Craig

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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              18-Oct-99 23:11:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: dos games under Warp 4

From: alan@min.net.notspam

I've got a pair of dos pinball games that I'd like to use under Warp's
mdos, but they don't seem to run properly.  They'll play for a couple of
minutes, after which the game stops and the session closes.  Any clues on
how to fix these?


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From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de                      18-Oct-99 22:37:26
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Does the new driver works with the Logitech Cordless Desktop Wheel mous

From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de (Carsten Frank)

HAs someone tested the new driver with the Logitech Cordless Desktop 
Wheel Mouse. The older drivers wont work with that mouse

Thanks for testing!

Ciao

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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                19-Oct-99 10:59:18
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: GIGABYTE GA-5AA Board

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>


"Graham C. Norris" wrote:

> Sounds like you really need to report this to MSI as a BIOS bug, but
> there are a couple of other possibilities.
>
> Some BIOSes can make "holes" in memory for things like AGP,
> bus-mastering devices etc. Make sure your BIOS doesn't have anything
> setting a hole at 64MB. On a similar theme, a piece of hardware may have
> forced itself into the memory map at 64MB. Since you can get Win98 to
> see all 128MB, have a look in it's Device Manager for anything sitting
> at 64MB.

I seem to have the same problem: NT (4.0 ServicePack5) finds 128MB, OS/2
(4.0 fixpack 9), only 64MB.
I do use a Matrox G400 (which is an AGP-card). Interestingly, when I tell
the BIOS to
'boot to OS/2' (aka 'OSselect for > 64MB: OS/2'), I get 16000kb of RAM.
You guessed it: in that case OS/2 uses the video-card's memory. Makes some
nice visual effects (mostly blinks & such).
And I thought that BIOS setting only affected OS/2 2.0 and earlier !

On top of your tips, I'll try banging in a PCI card.

Will report later !

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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             19-Oct-99 13:02:20
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:30:33, salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir wrote:

> Hi...
> I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to
> another . does anyone know any way and protocol to done this
> correctly ,when receiver doesn't know any thing about size or name of
> transferring file ?
> please send for me a mail if you have any source code or example or
> know any good site to help me .
> - thanks -

If both boxes are using OS/2, then all you need is a Laplink crossover
parallel cable and to install networking using the PMAC driver.
Not the fastest, but it works and you have full networking from both
the command line and PM.
There is also a null modem RS232 driver I believe, but I've never tried it.

-- 
Dave

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        19-Oct-99 12:04:06
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Re: Netscape Plug-ins

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <3808d3e1$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes:
>jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
>>Can some point me to a guide to how Netscape plug-ins work?
>
>>I realise you need to copy a DLL from the plug-in to the directory :-
>
>I assume you have the download: nspip30.exe.

I am trying to get this from:-

http://www-4.ibm.com/software/os/warp/netscape/ns461.html

..and get an error:-

Internal Server Error

malformed header from script. Bad header=tm

Apache/1.3.2 Server at www.software.ibm.com Port 80



Is there anywhere else to get this file?


>Run it in a temporary directory.  It will unzip itself and you will find
>INSTALL.EXE.  Run that.  You don't need to copy any DLL files.
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>
--
John

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From: swordedg@ntrnet.net                               19-Oct-99 13:59:06
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:28
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: swordedg@ntrnet.net (David Eckard)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:27:00, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> Well, I can't deny there being some level of pretense in my
> response, but the facts have a clear implication...
>  
> Recent actions taken by Jim L:
> Cleared memory and disk cache; set both to 0 (disabled)
>  
> Expected results of latter action:
> (1) Web pages will not be cached, thereby requiring the
> browser to download them from the server every time.
> (2) Any "temporary" files stored in the cache will be
> removed the next time new files are retrieved (e.g.
> loading a web page).
>  
> Symptoms reported by Jim L:
> (1) "web pages re-downloading over and over"
> (2) Won't continue download after abort; restarts again
>  
> There appears to be a direct correlation, which led me
> to my suggestion that he re-enable the caching.  :)
>  
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
>  
> 

Jeff, there is definately something about the GA 4.61 that pegs my CPU
meter and slows the system to a crawl.

If I let the settings stay at the default, the browser pegs my CPU 
meter ever single time I load this site

http://www.tvguide.com/Listings/FrameBase.asp?F=2&I=61071

or my local are TV schedule.

With the memory cache set to zero, it loads just dandy.  HOWEVER....  
now the PDF files on the job section of the news and observer peg the 
cpu meter.  They, I now download to my hd and load manually.  Works 
better for me that way anyway....

I tried to find out where IBM hid the defect reports but have been 
unsuccessful.  Is that on purpose?



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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          19-Oct-99 10:38:15
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Stewart Honsberger <blackdeath@13softhome.net> wrote in message
news:slrn80n4n9.1a9.blackdeath@blackdeath.pr1.on.wave.home.com...
> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:38:02 +0100, Richard Dakin wrote:
> >> >> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
> >> >> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their
> >> >> > left foot
> >>
> >> You appear to be an ignorant troll.
> >>
> >> If you're going to post childish Linux bashing, atleast have the
courtesy
> >> to restrict it to Microsoft newsgroups where the other lemmings can
> >> properly appreciate it.
> >
> >No I am not a troll,
>
> Could have fooled me.
>
> >I just have a different opinion to you & I like NT.
>
> In that case, we again have differing opinions. Your choice of expressing
> your opinion makes you come across as an ignorant, 10 year old lemming who
> wouldn't know the inside of his computer if he were shown a photograph.
>
> In short - your message makes you sound ignorant, and there is no greater
> sin than ignorance.
>
> >I didn't start this thread, if you don't like my responses kill file me
or
> >remove the Linux groups from the list.
>
> Pardon? Why should I remove the Linux groups? You're the one badmouthing
> Linux, and since you left the Linux groups listed, it appears to me as if
> you're looking to start a flame war.
>
> Follow-up directed according to where your postings belong.

You need to get out more.
If people badmouth NT it really doesn't bother me.  Quit treating Linux as a
treasured posession, it's just an OS for Gods sake & if others don't like it
does it really matter that much to you?
Oh yes I do use SuSe 6.1 occasionally on one of my machines, but that
doesn't mean I can't hold a negative opinion of it.


--
Richard Dakin

+++ No email please +++



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From: nospam@null                                       19-Oct-99 13:32:26
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane)

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:44:38, Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk> wrote:

> But IMO, unless you're a completely imbecile you're actually able
> to install most operating systems today!
>  
Well I guess that's me - I've just failed to install WIN98 for a friend (on
her 
brand new machine!) and I can't install Win95 on this machine!!

Case for the defence is 1 successful win95 install on another machine, linux
(2 
flavours 2 machines twice each) OS/2 (vr 2, 2.1, 3 red and blue and Connect,
4),
DOS 3,4,5,6.22 and windows 3,3.1, 3.11 for workgroups.

Apart from the failures noted above os/2 ver 2.1 and DOS 6.22 stick in mind as 

being particular barstards to install requiring all sorts of "tricks" to get 
them working.

Richard A Crane
 
General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace General and continue?
AKA third world government fault

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From: nospam@auerbachatunity.ncsu.edu                   19-Oct-99 09:51:10
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: Xywrite and OS/2 

From: nospam@auerbachatunity.ncsu.edu

In <EC3EJ5uiPEfW-pn2-FbDeRCbfNvrQ@egermain.ne.mediaone.net>, on 10/18/99 
   at 11:00 PM, egermain@mediaone.net (Edward Germain) said:

>Amazing.  It was the best of the best, but the sad, sad tale when it  was
>sold to IBM and then wrecked in development (the product was to be called
>"Signature"--I still have an alpha version around somewhere)  and then
>abandoned by IBM--well it's too sad to be retold.

>Thank you for the news that to some degree it is still alive!
 It is very alive and if you get XyWrite 4 (ver. 4.017 I think) and then
visit http://www.serve.com/xywwweb/  you'll find an amazing collection of
add-ons for XyWrite (remember XyWrite has a very powerful macro language
combined with the ability to add commands and program the keyboard)
including a howisthatpossible integration with OS/2.  For sheer manipulation
of text XyWrite is still the one.   Some quotes from theXyWeb  page:


>XyWrite-OS/2 File Manager for HPFS
> Transparent manipulation of
> OS/2's High Performance
> File System files and
>directories under XyWrite. Long
>   filenames! Display DIRectories
>of them, create edit save
> and delete them, etc. New
>commands: DIR2 NE2 CA2
>  ME2 SA2 AB2 DEL2 and INfo2


>Xy-OS/2 Shell (v1.0d). Xy-OS/2 Shell is a powerful interface that allows
>you to shell to OS/2 from
>        XyWrite, to run or switch to (and return to XyWrite from) OS/2
>programs and objects. All required
>        Xy-OS/2 Shell frames are integrated within XYWWWEB.U2; the ÿwhat's
>it all about?ÿ DOCumentation
>        and several DOS and OS/2 programs are contained in this ZIP 
>        XYOS2FM: Xy-OS/2 File Manager (Xy-OS/2 FM). Import and edit long
>filenames and directories
>        within XyWrite. Transparent access to all HPFS|FAT files on your
>machine 
>        REXXPL: RexXPL v2.011. Integrated XPL + REXX for XyWrite running
>under OS/2. Requires
>        Xy-OS/2 Shell (CLD 1/20/98) 
>        LFN: Import LongFileNamed (non-8.3) OS/2 Files into XyWrite 


-- 
                                         Regards, 
                                         David
Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast.
                             --Oscar Wilde
"What would life be without arithmetic, but a scene of horrors?"
                       -Rev. Sydney Smith, letter to young lady, 22 July 1835


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David Auerbach                   nospam@auerbachatunity.ncsu.edu            
Department of Philosophy & Religion
NCSU
Box 8103
Raleigh, 27695-8103
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From: jdye@niu.edu                                      19-Oct-99 09:48:23
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: "James Dye" <jdye@niu.edu>

On 19 Oct 1999 13:59:13 GMT, David Eckard wrote:

|If I let the settings stay at the default, the browser pegs my 
CPU 
|meter ever single time I load this site
|
|http://www.tvguide.com/Listings/FrameBase.asp?F=2&I=6
1071
|
|or my local are TV schedule.
|
|With the memory cache set to zero, it loads just dandy.  
HOWEVER....  
|now the PDF files on the job section of the news and 
observer peg the 
|cpu meter.  They, I now download to my hd and load 
manually.  Works 
|better for me that way anyway....
With 4000K memory cache the TVGuide page mentioned 
loads perfectly fine here, although there are a couple of 
momentary peaks of maybe 85% CPU usage and several 
lesser peaks  around 50%. 


James Dye
Northern Illinois University


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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     19-Oct-99 14:23:01
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

    [ The continuing mystery of a driver which RMVIEW /D reports as ]
    [  using IRQ15... but IRQ15 is not included in RMVIEW /IRQ!     ]

In <380b65fe$1$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net (Harry
Travis) writes:
--snip--
>RMVIEW/irq provides a pithy <20 line output file. Substitute /d for
>/irq, and the report runs over 700 lines, (with blanks.)

Yup. Wordy little sucker, isn't it? (;-).

>  Here is the
>portion of that >700 lines,  FWIW, on the isa SCSI card I've forced to
>use irq 15, but which does not show up at all with rmview/irq.
>
>Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver 
>Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996 
>Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
>IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  

Ouch.  For RMVIEW to report this kind of information, the SYM416.ADD
driver _must_ have Resource Manager-aware code in it.  So the core of
the mystery is that it apparently _is_ possible for a device driver to
report its information to Resource Manager in such a way that RMVIEW
/IRQ doesn't report it.

It appears that there is a bug in Resource Manager, Resource Manager's
link to RMVIEW, or in RMVIEW itself.  What form it would take is totally
beyond me, since it's hard to conceive that the use of an IRQ would be
stored into - or reported from - more than one "bucket" per IRQ.

Hm... wonder if Symbios has contributed their source code (including the
RM-related calls) to IBM's online DDK?

>BTW PNP also assigns IBM1S506.add to irq14 here, as well.

Yup - IRQ14 as "IBM PC Hard Drive IRQ" goes 'way back to the first IBM
(8088) PC BIOS (c. 1983?).

So... the mystery is unresolved, but at least it's out in the open and 
clear to anyone who might care to care to dig further (Sam D.? Scott 
G.?)

Harry - thanks again for posting all this stuff. What good's an 
Operating System without an occasional mystery? (;-)


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: thethoms@pacbell.net                              17-Oct-99 23:27:05
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: DPMI extender and OS/2

From: thethoms <thethoms@pacbell.net>

Hi!
        I am trying to run a DPMI program in a DOS full screen session. 
The program runs, but whenever I try to load or edit a file (its a
graphics program) a page fault occurs.
        I believe it has something to do with the DPMI extender CWSDPMI
and
possibly that it is set to use its own swap file.  Is there any way to
fix this, and if not, is there any way to disable the DPMI support of
the DOS box and allow it to use CWSDPMI?

Thanks,

Travis Thoms

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    19-Oct-99 07:57:05
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

One can compare this with the failures of another well-known company's
efforts. For example Bob, the "innovative" user interface for total
idiots.

The difference here is, in part, that IBM do actually innovate, and some
of the things they do don't "stick". You can't blame it all on
marketing: even M$'s marketing might couldn't force Bob on a world that
isn't as stupid as M$ thinks it is.

Graham.

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        19-Oct-99 15:19:25
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:53:43 GMT, hamei@pacbell.net <hamei@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
> >mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not
> >but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.
> >Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)
> >
> >For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_
> >more valuable than serial ports.  In my experience, most people use 1
> >serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another
> >available for a mouse.  Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4.
> >
> >I freely admit that for many people, serial ports are in fact more valuable
> >than IRQs... (laptop users for example, or those using funky peripherals,
> >UPSs, etc.)  But I think such people are in the minority.
> >...
> >What am I missing?
> 
> uhh, the fact that serial ports also require IRQ's ? 

Yeah, but they're IRQs that aren't really available for anything else
anyway.  I mean, the COM ports are already using them, so they're basically
off-limits to begin with.

But a PS/2 mouse uses up an additional IRQ.  Whereas if there's a serial
port free, that IRQ is just wasted.  So if you want to look at it that way,
you'd actually be losing the use of _two_ IRQs instead of one.

I don't know how possible it is to configure a PS/2 mouse to use the IRQs
reserved for serial ports, but it you're going to go to that hassle, it
would be simpler just to use a serial mouse anyway...

> And if you have an internal modem on com3 with the mouse on com1 they are
> sharing an irq and will doubtless collide unhappily ? Practically
> speaking, there are only two serial ports, 

So put the internal on COM 4?

> if you have a dialup modem and a plotter & tape punch & digitizer & pen
> tablet . . 

That's fine if you have them.  My point is, most people don't (one half of
my point).  So for them there's no benefit and possibly significant
disadvantage.

> at least the PS/2 uses an irq that's out of the way, not one of the few
> alternates for a com port. What other common accessories want to use IRQ
> 12 ? 

SCSI cards, TV tuners, AGP video cards, USB buses, network cards, possibly
DVD decoders, ...  just about any expansion card beyond a sound card and
internal modem could be wanting to use it.

There are only so many "common" free IRQs in a machine, and 12 is one of
them.  More computer add-ons require IRQs than serial ports, is the rest of
my point.

> see, there's alway two sides to that story :-)

Well, yeah, I was sort of fishing for one...

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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        19-Oct-99 15:25:08
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: SCROLLMS

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On 19 Oct 1999 03:48:25 GMT, John Hong <jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca> wrote:
> 	I'd just like to say a big thankyou to whoever it was that 
> developed this scroll mouse driver for OS/2.  I mean, it is fantastic.  
> Not only does the scrolling feature work under native OS/2 PM programs, 
> but even OS/2 text based programs, as well as Win-OS/2 Fullscreen/Window 
> sessions and even under DOS.  I mean, wow!  My Dexxa Wheelmouse only has 
> driver support for Windows 95/NT, and even there the scrolling function 
> never works when under a DOS session.
> 	Keep in mind the SCROLLMS driver only works with PS/2 
> scroll/wheel mice.  Dunno why they haven't done anything for the serial 
> port one's, but I guess there probably isn't too much of a demand for 
> them since every scroll/wheel mouse that I have seen in the computer 
> stores of my local area are really PS/2 mice (some come with a PS/2 to 
> Serial port adapter...that won't work with SCROLLMS either, BTW).
 
<sob>

Most retail mice these days seem to be PS/2 (with optional serial adapter
- my guess is that's the easiest way to allow for both connectors).  OEM
mice look about evenly split between serial and PS/2 from what I've
seen, possibly even skewed towards serial.  And plenty of them seem to 
have wheels...

I'd really like to be able to express thanks too, but I'm a neglected
serial user... <snif>

-- 
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: nitebird@voicenet.com                             19-Oct-99 03:28:25
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers!

From: nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann)

In <yxFO3.328$Vx6.111806@typhoon1.gnilink.net>, on 10/18/99 
   at 01:47 PM, rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)
said:

>:[Posted and mailed]

>:In article <380A587F.A7C9416A@maui.net>,
>:	John Twelker <twelker@maui.net> writes:
>:> Aloha from Maui,
>:> 
>:> I hope somebody can help me on a really dumb problem I'm having.
>:> 
>:> I received what I call "spamscum" and I deleted it.  Now, every day, it
>:> reappears so I delete it again.
>:> 
>:> This has gone on for some time ... so I looked at Netscape Trash and there
>:> was every single copy of the spamscum I deleted. So I deleted them all.
The
>:> next day, the same spamscum reappeared on the current Inbox and every
single
>:> trashed copy also reappeared in the Trash.
>:> 
>:> The bottom line is, I can't permanently delete that particular spamscum
from
>:> either my Inbox or Trash ... but I can delete any other email without
>:> problem.  What's going on? I've even uninstalled Netscape and reinstalled
it
>:> ... didn't make any difference at all.
>:> 
>:> Needless to say, this is really starting to bug me!

>:Is it the exact same message?  Check the headers to find out -- look
>:for the message ID line, in particular.  If it's the exact same
>:message, right down to the ID, then chances are the problem is at your
>:ISP; they're not deleting the message correctly from their system. 
>:It's also possible there's a bug in Netscape.  If the message is
>:different each time, then it's being sent again and again.  Inform the
>:administrator of the system that's sending the message, and your ISP
>:if necessary (I posted a lengthy message saying how to track down the
>:person to contact about spam in this thread a few days ago).

Every so often I'll get a message that will cause trouble. There is a
stray character somewhere that bugs my mail client and the message is
not completely read because the mail client stalls on the bad character.
Next time messages are fetched we repeat the above. I can also imagine
that a bad character in the message file name will cause trouble.

My technique in this situation is to use an FTP client to access the
file directly on the server and manually delete the file.

You'll have to dig around a bit on the server to find your mail
directory. If you know the message file name on the server, just delete
the file. If you don't know the file name, work from the message date
and look for a file with a stale date in that range. The dates may not
line up very well because the message could have crossed the
international date line, a time zone, been held somewhere, or passed
through a machine that was using an incorrect date. You can also
download a file (via FTP) and verify that the text matches your "scum".
Look before you leap, it would be embarrassing to delete your
configuration file.

If you want to download the message and dissect it, use the FTP binary
protocol.

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           19-Oct-99 12:11:17
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <380C86C6.C76F5C4F@linkline.com>, on 10/19/99 at 07:57 AM,
   "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com> said:

> The difference here is, in part, that IBM do actually innovate, and some
> of the things they do don't "stick". You can't blame it all on
> marketing: even M$'s marketing might couldn't force Bob on a world that
> isn't as stupid as M$ thinks it is.

So true. For years it was said the Chevrolet could sell an ugly box on
square wheels and for a time they could.- witness the Citation. But
eventually the consumers saw the light and Chevy has been looking up at
Ford for several years now since Ford finally convinced the public it had
a "Better Idea" with the Taurus. So there is yet hope to break up the MS
hegemony.

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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     19-Oct-99 16:51:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: DPMI extender and OS/2

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 03:27:10, thethoms <thethoms@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Hi!
>         I am trying to run a DPMI program in a DOS full screen session. 
> The program runs, but whenever I try to load or edit a file (its a
> graphics program) a page fault occurs.
>         I believe it has something to do with the DPMI extender CWSDPMI
> and
> possibly that it is set to use its own swap file.  Is there any way to
> fix this, and if not, is there any way to disable the DPMI support of
> the DOS box and allow it to use CWSDPMI?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Travis Thoms
> 

I doubt if it will help, but go to the DOS session settings, and set 
DPMI_DOS_API to NONE. The reason I don't think it will help, is that 
OS/2, probably, won't let an unknown (to it) memory manager take over 
anything.

Hope this helps...
******************************
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     19-Oct-99 16:51:29
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: MWave was Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:35:51, Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net> wrote:

> Not a trick question - just interested in seeking clarification as the
> technology was designed to be upgradeable(within certain limits naturally)
> via software?.   Thus it was unclear(to me anyway) whether you were
> referring to it's maximum design spec and/or it's initial "driver" spec?
> 

Actually, the FIRST MWave cards that came out, were limited to 28.8K, 
because the clock just wasn't fast enough to handle anything faster 
(and it did have trouble with 28.8, and sound at the same time. That 
card, AFAIK, was only available for a short period of time, and was 
replaced by a later card, with a faster clock, which allowed it to 
handle 33.6K data transfer, but it still has trouble  with sound at 
the same time. I have never heard of an MWave card that could be 
upgraded to 56K, but I lost interest, in the MWave cards, years ago.

So, to answer your question: I was refering to what was possible 
(within specs, or not), with the existing (not modified) cards, when 
they FIRST came out. I have not heard of any MWave card that will run 
at 56K modem speeds, but they may exist.

It is too bad, because the basic idea was excellent, it was just the 
execution of that idea that didn't work worth a damn (thanks again 
IBM)...
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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               19-Oct-99 16:57:13
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: How much Performance improvement with JFS?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Carsten Frank wrote:

> How much faster is JFS compared to hpfs386 with 30MB Cache

In my (not very comprehensive) tests, reading large blocks from a SCSI
drive was much faster (up to double) with JFS. There was not much
difference with writes, but with big volumes and a bigger cache this
might be different. The test system did not really benefit from more
than 2GB cache for HPFS 386, everything considered - even when running
several server applications. The dynamic cache of JFS would adapt better
to varying software loads on the server. In a very few situations, JFS
was slightly slower, and on a (newer and supposedly faster) ATA drive
the differences dwindled - but who uses ATA drives on a server anyhow?
The new ®ultrafast¯ drive I tried was much slower than even the old
"narrow" SCSI-2 ST 3180-N.

I only tested on small drives - one 500MB and a couple of 2GB SCSI-2 and
a 3GB ATA-3. I suspect that the difference might be greater with large
drives.

My test was done before the current JFS patch was released.


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               19-Oct-99 17:36:08
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

"Graham C. Norris" wrote:

> IBM did not invent token ring. Every token ring device ever made had a
> license fee on it which is one reason T-R was more expensive than
> Ethernet.

IBM "invented" Token Ring - i.e. developed the technology. Somebody had
taken out apatent on the idea of "token passing" as a control mechanism in
networks, which is used in Token Ring (and others, like ARCnet). This is
much like the man who "invented" the crankshaft and forced James Watt to
develop his "plaet wheel" to avoid royalties, or the really creative
people who register Internet domain names they think they might force
other companies to pay for. There was a lot of controversy about the
token-passing patent at the time, it was ridiculed by most networking
developers, but IBM decided to pay rather than waste a lot of money on
lawyers. It was probably the only realistic possibility - the litigation
might still be going on if they had challenged the patent in court.

People are not supposed to get patents on obvious or known ideas, but it
is not all that rare that the system slips up. There was also somebody who
tried to get a patent on the concept of a microprocessor. Luckily, that
did not lead to anything.


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               19-Oct-99 18:18:25
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Dale Erwin wrote:

> Do you think maybe for some reason the program thinks I am located
> outside the US?

Possibly. How is <animal.net> registered? If it is registered as a global
service, or not exclusively US,  that might be the explanation.


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               19-Oct-99 16:23:10
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir wrote:

> I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to
> another . does anyone know any way and protocol to done this
> correctly ,when receiver doesn't know any thing about size or name of
> transferring file ?

You could try zmodem,or even the venerable xmodem. Make a search from
www.alltheweb.com, or look around in your favourite archives. The sorce
is available to the public.


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From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu                    19-Oct-99 17:39:16
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: jaltman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman)

In article <slrn80nig5.24.possum@pooh.100acrewood>,
Mike Trettel <The other white meat!> wrote:

: You'll need a laplink style serial cable, and some kind of serial port
: transfer program.  Kermit is just great for this-I use Kermit all the
: time at work to transfer files off a Windows NT box to a Linux box via
: a serial port.  Kermit is available for OS/2 (look at Hobbes), and
: should do just what you need.

For the lastest information about Kermit on OS/2 please see

  http://www.kermit-project.org/os2.html

not hobbes.

    Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2
                 The Kermit Project * Columbia University
              612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025
  http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support@kermit-project.org

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                19-Oct-99 15:28:24
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> said:
>Symptoms reported by Jim L:
>(1) "web pages re-downloading over and over"
>(2) Won't continue download after abort; restarts again

>There appears to be a direct correlation, which led me
>to my suggestion that he re-enable the caching.  :)

My mistake.  I figured the "etc." covered turning them back on.  They are back
to their previous (previously functional) values.

Sooooooooooo, if there is something in addition to putting values in the cache
windows to turn them on, what is it?

Lacking an answer of substance there, what else can I do?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                19-Oct-99 15:30:09
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

swordedg@ntrnet.net (David Eckard) said:

>Jeff, there is definately something about the GA 4.61 that pegs my CPU meter
>and slows the system to a crawl.

I've heard that having no disk cache causes that.

Now...  Do you have a comment on the subject of my thread?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: jbigge@novagate.com                               19-Oct-99 18:21:03
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: jbigge@novagate.com (Jerome Bigge)

On 19 Oct 1999 13:32:52 GMT, nospam@null (Richard A Crane) wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:44:38, Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk> wrote:
>
>> But IMO, unless you're a completely imbecile you're actually able
>> to install most operating systems today!
>>  
>Well I guess that's me - I've just failed to install WIN98 for a friend (on
her 
>brand new machine!) and I can't install Win95 on this machine!!

Windows is "fussy" (perhaps due to anti-piracy features), but it isn't
that difficult to install unless you are trying to install a "full version" on
a machine that already has some version of Windows already on it.
The full versions search for earlier versions, and refuse to load if they
find one.   Thus, you can't install a full version of Windows 95 on a 
machine with Windows 3.x on it unless you do something to conceal
Windows 3.x from Windows 95.   And I'd assume that the same is true
with Windows 98 being installed upon a computer with Windows 85.
Windows 3.x installs some files in your root directory (as does 95),
and these are what the full install versions detect and refuse to go
any further with.   You can either back these files off to floppy, then
delete them, or try renaming them something else.   The other way
is to purchase a good boot manager program such as SYSTEM
COMMANDER, or PARTITION COMMANDER, or PARTITION
MAGIC, have these programs "hide" the partition where the old
version of Windows resides.   This however requires making a
new partition on your hard drive (which they do without loss of
data), and then loading your new version of Windows into that.

So I'd first try renaming those files, and trying again with your
Windows.   If Windows still comes up with "earlier version"
of Windows, then you'll have to do something else.  If you
can't load Windows at all, then you have other problems.
OS/2 is however easier to load than Windows, and takes
less time (as well as less hard drive space).

>Case for the defence is 1 successful win95 install on another machine, linux
(2 
>flavours 2 machines twice each) OS/2 (vr 2, 2.1, 3 red and blue and Connect,
4),
>DOS 3,4,5,6.22 and windows 3,3.1, 3.11 for workgroups.
>
>Apart from the failures noted above os/2 ver 2.1 and DOS 6.22 stick in mind
as 
>being particular barstards to install requiring all sorts of "tricks" to get 
>them working.
>
>Richard A Crane
> 
>General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace General and continue?
>AKA third world government fault

Jerome Bigge

CompTIA A+ Certified Computer Technician
Author of the "Warlady" & "Wartime" series.
Download at "http://members.tripod.com/~jbigge"

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From: ncoffey@netrover.com                              19-Oct-99 19:19:20
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: What FP level?

From: ncoffey@netrover.com

I've not only forgotten what FP level of Warp 3 I'm at, but also how 
to find out. Would someone please enlighten me?

Thank you,
Nancy

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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk                         19-Oct-99 19:12:01
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:18:50 +0200, Bj±rn Vermo wrote:

>Dale Erwin wrote:
>
>> Do you think maybe for some reason the program thinks I am located
>> outside the US?
>
>Possibly. How is <animal.net> registered? If it is registered as a global
>service, or not exclusively US,  that might be the explanation.
>
It seemed quite happy to let me download the 128-bit version from work,
which is a UK company. I didn't bother though, given that I can stick
to the rules by Fortifying the export version :-)


Dave
-- 
mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Give blood... Play Rugby!


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                19-Oct-99 15:42:11
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:06
Subj: Re: Netscape Plug-ins

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:

>I am trying to get this from:-

>http://www-4.ibm.com/software/os/warp/netscape/ns461.html

>...and get an error:-

>Internal Server Error

>malformed header from script. Bad header=tm

Try Software Choice at:

http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      19-Oct-99 21:32:04
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:06
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Alex Taylor [@Home Network Canada] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ A USB mouse probably would be a useful investment... once it's fully
¯ supported under all platforms.  The time is soon approaching, I think,
¯ but not quite yet...

Agree.
 
¯ > ¯ but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
¯ > ¯ more useful kind.
¯ > 
¯ > Hardly.
¯ 
¯ Why is that?

Simple. Because most systems already has dedicated a PS/2 mouse port. 

Why should you remove your current mouse from that, buy a new wheel mouse and
plug it in and occupy a free serial port, leaving the PS/2 mouse port empty?

It's a good strategy to keep you serial port free for other things.

Many mouses (especially the Microsoft ones) comes with an adapter so you can
plug it in either serial or PS/2, but most other serial devices (modems,
printers, palm devices, cameras, pen tablets) can _only_ use the serial port.

Here are some additional points (but perhaps not as strong reasons for most):

2.

The PS/2 port is also easier to locate for most novice users as it's logical
close to the keyboard port on the back of the system (the worst mistake they
will be able to make is to switch the mouse and keyboards ports).

3.

The PS/2 port can run the mouse at a higher sampling rate than on the normal
serial port (makes the mouse movements *much* nicer IMO - just like using the
mouse on old Logitech bus ports, Amiga or Mac). 

This is great especially if you use the mouse on a system with a high
resolution monitor and graphics card.
 
4.

Some mouses doesn't come with a serial port adapter, and can only be used on a
PS/2 port.

5. 

Some keyboards (like the ones who comes with Intergraph systems) has a PS/2
port nicely located on the keyboard left and right end for easy access.

¯ In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
¯ mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not

The "only" is still a big unnecessary waste of a fine working PS/2 port.

¯ but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.

It's not any difference between a serial and PS/2 port in this regard. They
are basically the exact same, including that both needs an dedicated IRQ.

¯ Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)

Ok. :)
 
¯ Of course, the trick is getting that message to IBM...  I don't suppose
¯ any of their people here is responsible for those drivers?  :)

I agree. The hard part is probably to get their attention to it. It's should
be very easy to fix for them. If they don't make any use of the higher sample
rate that the PS/2 port can provide, which I don't think they do currently on
OS/2, all they have to do is just to sample another IRQ and memory address. 

Why not, at least trying to, also send them a mail about looking into it? 

Doesn't cost much.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC       K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662           2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 15:00:11
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:06
Subj: Re: Netscape Plug-ins

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> In <3808d3e1$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes:
> >jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) said:
> >>Can some point me to a guide to how Netscape plug-ins work?
> >
> >>I realise you need to copy a DLL from the plug-in to the directory :-
> >
> >I assume you have the download: nspip30.exe.
> 
> I am trying to get this from:-
> 
> http://www-4.ibm.com/software/os/warp/netscape/ns461.html
> 
> ..and get an error:-
> 
> Internal Server Error
> 
> malformed header from script. Bad header=tm
> 
> Apache/1.3.2 Server at www.software.ibm.com Port 80
> 
> Is there anywhere else to get this file?
> 
> >Run it in a temporary directory.  It will unzip itself and you will find
> >INSTALL.EXE.  Run that.  You don't need to copy any DLL files.
> >
> >Jim L
> >Remove XX from address to Email
> >Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
> >
> >
> --
> John

I had this very same problem.  I asked here, but no one seemed to
have any answers.  I finally took a chance and went to IBM's 
Software Choice page and was successful in downloading it through
that path.  You first have to register, but only opt for the free
stuff.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: bhk@dsl.co.uk                                     19-Oct-99 19:03:12
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers!

From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly})

On Tuesday, in article
     <380c23f5$1$avgroveq$mr2ice@netnews.voicenet.com>
     nitebird@voicenet.com "Barry Mann" wrote:

> Every so often I'll get a message that will cause trouble. There is a
> stray character somewhere that bugs my mail client and the message is
> not completely read because the mail client stalls on the bad character.
> Next time messages are fetched we repeat the above. I can also imagine
> that a bad character in the message file name will cause trouble.
> 
> My technique in this situation is to use an FTP client to access the
> file directly on the server and manually delete the file.

FTP?!?!?!  <Gulp>

Why use that (when in some cases at least, the ftpd will not have the
requisite permissions to even see, let alone change, the mail spool)?

Instead, I would advocate using telnet to connect to the POP3 server on
its standard port (ie 110), and then issue manual commands to locate the
offending message and delete it.  The LIST command might well be enough
to identify the offender, or failing that use TOP n 0 to read the headers
of each message n until the buggy one is located.  Thene just DELE n and
QUIT.

Piece of cake.

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
    "But we're a university.  We /have/ to have a library!..."said Ridcully,
         "What sort of people would we be if we didn't go into the library?"
    "Students", said the Senior Wrangler, morosely. [TP: The Last Continent]

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 15:05:21
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Bj›rn Vermo wrote:
> 
> Dale Erwin wrote:
> 
> > Do you think maybe for some reason the program thinks I am located
> > outside the US?
> 
> Possibly. How is <animal.net> registered? If it is registered as a global
> service, or not exclusively US,  that might be the explanation.

Pardon me?  What is <animal.net>, and what does it have to do with it?
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           19-Oct-99 20:17:15
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:05:43, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:

> Bj±rn Vermo wrote:
> > 
> > Dale Erwin wrote:
> > 
> > > Do you think maybe for some reason the program thinks I am located
> > > outside the US?
> > 
> > Possibly. How is <animal.net> registered? If it is registered as a global
> > service, or not exclusively US,  that might be the explanation.
> 
> Pardon me?  What is <animal.net>, and what does it have to do with it?

I think it's a case of dyslexic fingers trying to type airmail.net

Lorne Sunley

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 15:46:15
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
use at those places.

It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
(which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.

When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
the connection to start with.

On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They 
either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.

I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably because
I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me to
the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with this 
system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
justify the use of a system with no means of support.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl                       19-Oct-99 23:02:04
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: DPMI extender and OS/2

From: Henk kelder <nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl>

Set DPMI_DOS_API for that DOS session to ENABLED instead of AUTO. 

Open the program objects properties, goto the session page,
press the DOS properties button, select DOS Memory settings,
and set DPMI_DOS_API to enabled.

Possible also increase the DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT value to a higher value.

Henk





Some DPMI programs are not recoqnized by OS/2 and therefor OS/2 does not
enable DPMI for them.

thethoms wrote:
> 
> Hi!
>         I am trying to run a DPMI program in a DOS full screen session.
> The program runs, but whenever I try to load or edit a file (its a
> graphics program) a page fault occurs.
>         I believe it has something to do with the DPMI extender CWSDPMI
> and
> possibly that it is set to use its own swap file.  Is there any way to
> fix this, and if not, is there any way to disable the DPMI support of
> the DOS box and allow it to use CWSDPMI?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Travis Thoms

-- 
Remove nospam when replying..

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From: djm16@le.ac.uk                                    19-Oct-99 21:58:18
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: djm16@le.ac.uk (Dr D.J. Maconochie)

Don't give up until you have tried IN-JOY as your dialer. Its brilliant, what
more can I say.

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 15:52:12
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Lorne Sunley wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:05:43, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:
> 
> > Bj?rn Vermo wrote:
> > >
> > > Dale Erwin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do you think maybe for some reason the program thinks I am located
> > > > outside the US?
> > >
> > > Possibly. How is <animal.net> registered? If it is registered as a
global
> > > service, or not exclusively US,  that might be the explanation.
> >
> > Pardon me?  What is <animal.net>, and what does it have to do with it?
> 
> I think it's a case of dyslexic fingers trying to type airmail.net
> 
> Lorne Sunley

Ahhhh!  My ISP!  Well, how does one know or ascertain how their ISP is
registered?  I know they don't even offer any service outside the
State of Texas.  Maybe they're not considering Texas to be part of the
US :(  well, they wouldn't be the first, I guess.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: p.engels@gmx.de                                   19-Oct-99 23:15:06
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Peter Engels" <p.engels@gmx.de>

Hi Dale,

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:30 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
>Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
>stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
>use at those places.

that should be reason enough to find out, what is going wrong!

[...]
>When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
>SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
>with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
>NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
>function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
>"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have

this seems to be a configuration problem of the "dial other internet
providers", here I think the domain server address is not correct.

>tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could

in the case above, this will not help

>not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I

clear, the problem is too specific.



This OS/2 system uptime is 00 hours, 07 minutes and 18 seconds.
-- 
MfG / Regards

	Peter Engels


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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      19-Oct-99 23:34:21
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir [Deja.com - Before you buy.] ->
comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ Hi...

Hi!

¯ I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to
¯ another . does anyone know any way and protocol to done this
¯ correctly ,when receiver doesn't know any thing about size or name of
¯ transferring file ?

You don't say which systems who should be used in each end of the cable, but I
assume one is OS/2 (as you post in this group) and judging from your headers
"X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT; DigExt)"
that one is NT.

A good option could be to setup the RAS on NT with TCP/IP (select "Direct
cable connection" for use of RS-232 null modem cable) and the FTP server.
Configure your OS/2 machine to dial into that with the help of DOIP and use an
FTP client, or with some luck you can configure NetBIOS and mount a network
drive directly with SMB.

A more simple (but not as flexible) solution if that doesn't work is to fire
up a terminal program on each machine and use a common file transfer protocol.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC       K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662           2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: pdrumm@dwave.net                                  19-Oct-99 21:44:23
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: pdrumm@dwave.net (Peter Drumm)

In message <c1.2c.2SbKR6$1UG@rhino_house.attglobal.net> -
nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson) writes:
:->
:->In <F5E583ACA41B4AB7.2B03B5BC40A47423.7346B68C3256C7F6@lp.airnews.net>,
Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> writes:
:->
:->>The PM-3 command-line program is not a DOS program, it is an OS/2
:->>command-line program.
:->
:->I thought it was one of those "family mode" programs that can run
:->in either DOS or OS/2.

Nope, the DOS program is PQMAGICT.EXE, 751,239 bytes. The OS/2 program
is PMAGICOT.EXE, 482,006 bytes.

Custom machining; Tool & Cutter grinding
Peter Drumm, Wausau WI  <pdrumm@dwave.net> 
<http://home.dwave.net/~pdrumm>
Cyrix6x86/300 MII, OS/2 Warp 4, Linux

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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             19-Oct-99 17:01:16
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

Is there some particular reason why you are not using Netscape Communicator
4.61?

Alan


Dale Erwin wrote:

> I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
> Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
> stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
> use at those places.
>
> It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
> re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
> (which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
> is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
>
> When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
> SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
> NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> "whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
> While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
> I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
> tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
> got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
> me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
> have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
> the connection to start with.
>
> On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
> explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They
> either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.
>
> I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably because
> I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me to
> the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with this
> system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
> justify the use of a system with no means of support.
> --
> Dale Erwin
> Dallas, Texas
> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca                           19-Oct-99 21:41:13
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Dale Erwin (derwin@airmail.net) wrote:
: When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
: SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
: with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
: NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
: function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
: "whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
: tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
: not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
: was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.

Well, let's say you jumped ship to WindowsNT. Suppose you have the same
problem. Will Netscape help you? No. Will Microsoft help you? No. Will
Indelible-Blue help you? No.

You will be stuck in the same position as before. OS/2 is not the root
problem here, I suspect. Especially since so many people have been running
fine with the same setup. It's been literally _months_ since OS/2 freezed
up on me.

At least on the OS/2 newsgroups, you have a much higher ratio of
knowledgeable people vs "Joe Users" than the WinXX crowd.
Try explaining such a problem and see what sort of response you get!



Isaac

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From: iact*on-a-spam-free-diet*@techie...               19-Oct-99 20:50:19
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: article on open Internet standards, access and future

Message sender: iact*on-a-spam-free-diet*@techie.com

From: <iact*on-a-spam-free-diet*@techie.com> (DG)

Re: new article on The Internet, 
    + reminder about OS/2-related commentaries etc.


IACT has a new, four-part 24x7 Report, "Connections and
Directions on the Internet," that covers a lot of virtual
turf-- from the development of e-mail, Usenet and and
e-commerce, to the defining and enforcing of Internet
standards. Comparisons are offered between HTML, XML and
SGML, between open versus proprietary formats, and
between non-profit versus commercial uses of the WWW.

 (*) The Internet has been around for 30+ years. Over
 that time, what groups and individuals have been
 managing or promoting the development of the Internet?
  
 (*) The Internet Engineering Task Force [IETF] and the
 World Wide Web Consortium [W3C] each have important
 histories and accomplishments. How did those
 organizations get started, who are their current members
 and leaders, and how do people like us contribute to and
 join them?
 
 (*) Users today have to tangle with more junk e-mail,
 intrusive banner ads and bandwidth restrictions. Besides
 the related increases in consumer and business costs,
 what qualitative, social and intangible losses have
 Internet users been exposed to?
  
 (*) Is XML more powerful yet also easier to use than
 HTML? Let's take a closer look at XML's learning curve,
 costs and potential benefits. Plus, we'll see if
 Java-based XML parsers, made by Sun, MSFT, Oracle and
 IBM, can comply fully with the official XML
 specification. 



Reminders
---------

You may still enjoy reading our previous 24x7 feature
"Objectivity Be Damned, and Full Speed Ahead" by IACT
member and technical writer, Mike Fitzhugh, who exposes
the biased methods used by Ziff-Davis and individual IT
journalists in their delivery of software reviews and
information to the public. The prime examples of their
lack of objectivity are the popular office suites by
Corel, Lotus, Microsoft and Star.


And just two weeks ago, we posted Issue #6 of The IACT
Quarterly Newsletter, covering major topics such as
standards and user interfaces.

    * With humor and common sense, Marsha Francis
      offers a better definition of 'user-friendly'
      software and manuals, with suggestions about
      customization of the Windows graphical user
      interface.

    * Neal Murphy's two persuasive articles on the BeOS
      cover important features e.g. its versatile user
      interface, journaled file system, multimedia
      services, realtime processing and virtual memory.

    plus commentaries by IACT members and co-founders...

    * questions/concerns in the battle over X.500, open
      directory services and new standards proposed by
      MSFT & Cisco and IBM & RedHat;

    * myths versus facts of compatibility, costs and
      reliability in Windows compared to OSs such as OS/2
      and Linux;

    * and advantages of object-oriented interfaces such
      as Warp's Workplace Shell and Next's OpenStep
      compared to the object-based GUI of Windows. 



Reach our 24x7 Reports page by using this URL:
      http://pages.cthome.net/iact/features/24x7.html


Reach Issue #6 of the IACT Quarterly Newsletter here:
      http://pages.cthome.net/iact/IQN/6.html


And IACT's Cover Page has all links to all sections:
      http://pages.cthome.net/iact/



Important note about linking
----------------------------

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Your links to our upper-level URLs are crucial, because
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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 16:58:22
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Alan Beagley wrote:
> 
> Is there some particular reason why you are not using Netscape Communicator
> 4.61?
> 
> Alan
> 
> Dale Erwin wrote:
> 
> > I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
> > Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
> > stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
> > use at those places.
> >
> > It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
> > re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
> > (which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
> > is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
> >
> > When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
> > SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> > with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
> > NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> > function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> > "whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> > tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> > not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> > was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
> > While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
> > I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
> > tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
> > got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
> > me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
> > have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
> > the connection to start with.
> >
> > On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
> > explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They
> > either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.
> >
> > I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably because
> > I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me to
> > the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with this
> > system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
> > justify the use of a system with no means of support.
> > --
> > Dale Erwin
> > Dallas, Texas
> > <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

I installed NC4.61 and got the exact same results from it that I got 
with 4.04.  The only one that works is 2.02
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: rjfreem@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 14:39:26
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: Help!  Can't create Utility Diskettes

From: rjfreem@ibm.net

In <380b8a34$2$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, on 10/18/99 
   at 04:53 PM, lifedata@xxvol.com said:

>"David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> said:

>>this was to use the most up-to-date file versions installed from
>>fixpacks in creating the utility disks rather than the downlevel GA files. 
A
>>great idea but a bug in the program prevented it from working if you checked
>>the box.  If you don't check the box, the 4 utility boxes are still created
>>from the GA files like always.  Apparently this bug is fixed in fixpack 12
for
>>Warp v4.

>It apparently was, but I have a different problem with it.  When I got to
>disk 1 (second disk) it got to d:\os2\boot\lms206.add and halted with a
>disk full error.  At that point the entire operation is halted.

Installation diskettes are created from the OS2 CD. type CDINST this will
create the diskettes, diskette no 1 will need to have the files in
idedasd.exe which is available from 
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/miscellb/os_2warp/index.htm
Follow the read me.
RJF


> 1.  Now what?

> 2.  Big question.  Am I supposed to be able to start a whole new OS/2
>installation using these utility disks?  If not, then we're back to the
>old argument that OS/2 desperately needs a new CD.

>I want to change my #2 machine from Warp 3 to Warp 4 (I run 4 on my main
>machine), and I really don't look forward to trying to bring it up to
>date manually.

>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.



-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
rjfreem@ibm.net
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From: Wm D Loughman@MYHOSTNAME.foo.bar                  19-Oct-99 22:07:27
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:08
Subj: Re: DPMI extender and OS/2

From: Wm D Loughman@MYHOSTNAME.foo.bar ()

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-9Blpm98EN9hG@localhost>, Doug Bissett wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 03:27:10, thethoms <thethoms@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>         I am trying to run a DPMI program in a DOS full screen session. 
>> The program runs, but whenever I try to load or edit a file (its a
>> graphics program) a page fault occurs.
>>         I believe it has something to do with the DPMI extender CWSDPMI
>> and
>> possibly that it is set to use its own swap file.  Is there any way to
>> fix this, and if not, is there any way to disable the DPMI support of
>> the DOS box and allow it to use CWSDPMI?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Travis Thoms
>> 
>
>I doubt if it will help, but go to the DOS session settings, and set 
>DPMI_DOS_API to NONE. The reason I don't think it will help, is that 
>OS/2, probably, won't let an unknown (to it) memory manager take over 
>anything.
>
>Hope this helps...
>******************************
>From the PC of Doug Bissett
>doug.bissett at attglobal.net
>The " at " must be changed to "@"
>******************************

I've a similar problem with a cherished and much-used legacy catalog
program.  OS/2 won't allow it to work correctly.  In a VDM, cataloging
seems to proceed normally.  However, on checking the results, "files
processed" and "files on disk' both are zero = trashed catalog.  Setting
the DPMI_... thing didn't help me here.  This, even with FAT partitions.

Wm D "Bill" Loughman
Berkeley, CA  USA
wdlkhl@attglobal.net

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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               19-Oct-99 15:26:19
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:01:33 -0400, Alan Beagley wrote:

>Dale Erwin wrote:
>
>> I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
>> Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
>> stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
>> use at those places.
>>

Dale,

Send me the unit.   If I can't get it fixed for you - I will pay for
shipping.


Kim Cheung, Executive Director
Serenity System International



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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  19-Oct-99 22:08:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:46:30, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:

> I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
> Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
> stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
> use at those places.
> 
> It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
> re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
> (which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
> is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
> 
> When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
> SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
> NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> "whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
> While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
> I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
> tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
> got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
> me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
> have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
> the connection to start with.
> 
> On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
> explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They 
> either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.
> 
> I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably because
> I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me to
> the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with this 
> system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
> justify the use of a system with no means of support.

We are all free persons (I guess that it the Pollically Correct term) in 
free countries, and can do what we like. But there is a measure of humor in
the fact that you are using NS 2.0.2 (God alone knows what build), which 
was a buggy affair, little improved by 4.0.4, when most of us have gone on 
to 4.61, which is far more stable.

I can go weeks without an involuntary reboot, and my machine runs eighteen 
to twenty hours a day.

If your system is less stable than that, perhaps you might do better to 
think of why this is so, rather than jumping from the frying pan into the 
fire.

But, if you like to play with toys, WindowsXX is the way for you to go.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 17:21:15
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Dr D.J. Maconochie wrote:
> 
> Don't give up until you have tried IN-JOY as your dialer. Its brilliant,
what
> more can I say.

I don't exactly how it might help me, but I am willing to try anything
at this point.  Is it available at BMT Micro?  I'll go take a look
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 17:20:08
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

e-frog wrote:
> 
> Dale Erwin (derwin@airmail.net) wrote:
> : When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
> : SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> : with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
> : NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> : function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> : "whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> : tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> : not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> : was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
> 
> Well, let's say you jumped ship to WindowsNT. Suppose you have the same
> problem. Will Netscape help you? No. Will Microsoft help you? No. Will
> Indelible-Blue help you? No.
> 
> You will be stuck in the same position as before. OS/2 is not the root
> problem here, I suspect. Especially since so many people have been running
> fine with the same setup. It's been literally _months_ since OS/2 freezed
> up on me.
> 
> At least on the OS/2 newsgroups, you have a much higher ratio of
> knowledgeable people vs "Joe Users" than the WinXX crowd.
> Try explaining such a problem and see what sort of response you get!
> 
> Isaac

So to this we have come?  You're telling me no matter what software
I use there is no technical support for it?  If I were running NT and
had this problem with IE, I could get it fixed at any corner computer
store with a service department and for a lot less than a service
contract with IBM would cost.  It doesn't have to be FREE to be
affordable.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: li_9_thop@plantlife73.com.na                      19-Oct-99 22:33:10
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: li_9_thop@plantlife73.com.na (Jim Backus)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:46:30, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:

<snip>
> It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
> re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
> (which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
> is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
> 
> When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
> SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
> NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> "whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
> While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
> I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
> tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
> got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
> me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
> have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
> the connection to start with.
> 
<snip>

What fixpack level are you running?  I've had similar problems and 
have often found that the cleanup that seems to be part of the fixpack
installation appears to improve stability even if the APARs have no 
obvious connection to the problems.  It may be that running inimaint 
or similar might help as much.

One of the other posters suggested NS 4.61 - I'm not using it yet - my
4.04 is perfectly stable so I'm following the "if it ain't broke don't
fix it" philosophy - but IIRC NS 4.61 _does_ need one of the later 
fixpacks.

Another poster suggested In-joy dialler which also has a very good 
reputation.

It sounds as though you start your connections by starting the browser
- have you tried connecting first?


Jim Backus  OS/2 user because it's better
bona fide replies to jimb(at)jita(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk

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From: meson2000@erols.com                               19-Oct-99 19:18:09
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: OS/2 and FAT32

From: "meson2000" <meson2000@erols.com>

Hey eveyone,
I am switching back to OS/2.
The last time I used Os/2 was a couple of years ago
when v. 4 just came out.

I wanted to know if OS/2 could read FAT32
partitions??

It couldn't before. Is there a patch or anything available??
Thanks in advance.


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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 17:07:27
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Peter Engels wrote:
> 
> Hi Dale,
> 
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:30 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:
> 
> >I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
> >Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
> >stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
> >use at those places.
> 
> that should be reason enough to find out, what is going wrong!
> 
> [...]
> >When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
> >SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> >with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
> >NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> >function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> >"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> 
> this seems to be a configuration problem of the "dial other internet
> providers", here I think the domain server address is not correct.

Then how is it that Netscape 2.02 has no problem with the same
dialer configuration?  Besides, I have checked that out and can
find nothing out of order.

> >tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> 
> in the case above, this will not help
> 
> >not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> 
> clear, the problem is too specific.
> 
> This OS/2 system uptime is 00 hours, 07 minutes and 18 seconds.
> --
> MfG / Regards
> 
>         Peter Engels

-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 18:38:19
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Kim Cheung wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:01:33 -0400, Alan Beagley wrote:
> 
> >Dale Erwin wrote:
> >
> >> I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
> >> Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
> >> stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
> >> use at those places.
> >>
> 
> Dale,
> 
> Send me the unit.   If I can't get it fixed for you - I will pay for
> shipping.
> 
> Kim Cheung, Executive Director
> Serenity System International

Hi Kim,

What is this Serenity System stuff, Kim?  What happened with TouchVoice?
That's a very generous offer.  I would take you up on it if I were still
in California, but current negotiations I am in may be requiring me to
move to Santa Fe, New Mexico soon, and I can't really do without my
machine that long.  However, if the offer still stands after the dust
settles, I will take you up on it.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net                      19-Oct-99 18:59:18
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>

>
>
> <Sarcasm>
> Yes, selecting from a menu to format the OS/2 partition as FAT or HPFS
> can be a real chore.
> </Sarcasm>
>

As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most PCs
come
with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper than
re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a bitch.

Dave

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                19-Oct-99 20:03:09
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:12
Subj: Re: Help!  Can't create Utility Diskettes

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

rjfreem@ibm.net said:

>>>Apparently this bug is fixed in fixpack 12 for Warp v4.

>>It apparently was, but I have a different problem with it.  When I got to
>>disk 1 (second disk) it got to d:\os2\boot\lms206.add and halted with a
>>disk full error.  At that point the entire operation is halted.

>Installation diskettes are created from the OS2 CD. type CDINST this will
>create the diskettes, diskette no 1 will need to have the files in
idedasd.exe
>which is available from 
>http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/miscellb/os_2warp/index.htm
>Follow the read me.

OK, RJF.  IDEDASD.EXE is not at:

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/miscellb/os_2warp/index.htm

It is at:

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/30ABBBF6ABD9D85F86256598006908FA.
html

Of course that doesn't answer the above utility disks question about the DISK
FULL error.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 17:54:07
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:16
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Stan Goodman wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:46:30, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:
> 
> > I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
> > Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
> > stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
> > use at those places.
> >
> > It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
> > re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
> > (which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
> > is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
> >
> > When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
> > SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> > with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
> > NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> > function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> > "whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> > tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> > not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> > was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
> > While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
> > I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
> > tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
> > got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
> > me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
> > have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
> > the connection to start with.
> >
> > On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
> > explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They
> > either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.
> >
> > I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably because
> > I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me to
> > the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with this
> > system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
> > justify the use of a system with no means of support.
> 
> We are all free persons (I guess that it the Pollically Correct term) in
> free countries, and can do what we like. But there is a measure of humor in
> the fact that you are using NS 2.0.2 (God alone knows what build), which
> was a buggy affair, little improved by 4.0.4, when most of us have gone on
> to 4.61, which is far more stable.
> 
> I can go weeks without an involuntary reboot, and my machine runs eighteen
> to twenty hours a day.
> 
> If your system is less stable than that, perhaps you might do better to
> think of why this is so, rather than jumping from the frying pan into the
> fire.
> 
> But, if you like to play with toys, WindowsXX is the way for you to go.

I neglected to say that I did install NC 4.61 and had the very same
result that I got with 4.04, but don't let that stop you from making
your snide, condescending remarks, asshole!
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               19-Oct-99 02:03:16
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:35:29
Subj: Re: dos games under Warp 4

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

alan@min.net.notspam schrieb:
> 
> I've got a pair of dos pinball games that I'd like to use under Warp's
> mdos, but they don't seem to run properly.  They'll play for a couple of
> minutes, after which the game stops and the session closes.  Any clues on
> how to fix these?

Can you be a bit more specific on the games you run? What kind of memory
do they need (EMS/XMS)? Do they use a DOS extender like DOS4GW? How much
memory do they need? What are your DOS settings?

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          19-Oct-99 08:00:18
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:35:29
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:01:26 -0500, David Reiff wrote:

:>I grudgingly gave up OS/2 because it seemed to me that it's future didn't
look
:>too good, from a applications standpoint. But I did enjoy it and can
reiterate
:>that it's much more stable than Win95/98. In fact there's really no
:>comparison. Installation was pretty easy, and very easy if you accept FAT
for
:>the filesystem. If you want to use OS/2's filesystem HPFS, then installation
:>is more difficult. Linux, in my view, is pretty difficult to install, but
once

<Sarcasm>
Yes, selecting from a menu to format the OS/2 partition as FAT or HPFS
can be a real chore.
</Sarcasm>

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: possum@fred.net                                   19-Oct-99 01:31:10
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:35:29
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: possum@fred.net (Mike Trettel)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:30:33 GMT, salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir
<salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir> wrote:
>Hi...
>I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to
>another . does anyone know any way and protocol to done this
>correctly ,when receiver doesn't know any thing about size or name of
>transferring file ?
>please send for me a mail if you have any source code or example or
>know any good site to help me .
>- thanks -
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

You'll need a laplink style serial cable, and some kind of serial port
transfer program.  Kermit is just great for this-I use Kermit all the
time at work to transfer files off a Windows NT box to a Linux box via
a serial port.  Kermit is available for OS/2 (look at Hobbes), and
should do just what you need.

-- 
===========
Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net

I don't buy from spammers.  No exceptions.  Fix the reply line to mail me.

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 19-Oct-99 01:53:21
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:35:29
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <yQJO3.7256$P6.436999@news2.rdc1.on.home.com>, alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca
(Alex Taylor) writes:
snip
>In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
>mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not
>but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.
>Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)
>
>For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_
>more valuable than serial ports.  In my experience, most people use 1
>serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another
>available for a mouse.  Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4.
>
>I freely admit that for many people, serial ports are in fact more valuable
>than IRQs... (laptop users for example, or those using funky peripherals,
>UPSs, etc.)  But I think such people are in the minority.
>
>The fact that PS/2 mice seem to be becoming more and more common has
>annoyed me for some time.  (Ever since I had a job installing NICs, and
>kept finding no IRQs free because of that PS/2 mouse sitting there when
>there were two perfectly good serial ports free, forcing me to pull out
>their modem or sound card.)  They are certainly useful, even preferable,
>in a number if situations.  But for most "normal" users, I don't think that
>is so.
>
>What am I missing?

uhh, the fact that serial ports also require IRQ's ? And if you have an
internal 
modem on com3 with the mouse on com1 they are sharing an irq and will 
doubtless collide unhappily ? Practically speaking, there are only two serial
ports, 
if you have a dialup modem and a plotter & tape punch & digitizer & pen tablet 
. . 
at least the PS/2 uses an irq that's out of the way, not one of the few
alternates 
for a com port. What other common accessories want to use IRQ 12 ? 

see, there's alway two sides to that story :-)

>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
> Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
> alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
>-----------------------------------------------------------------


--
H„rad ’ngravv†rd



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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     19-Oct-99 02:22:25
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:01
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> Netscape 4.61:  The cache has started messing up in general just recently. 
I've
> cleared out both memory cache and disk cache, turned them off etc., but I
still
> keep seeing web pages re-download over and over.

Try turning the caching back ON.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  18-Oct-99 20:18:11
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: Re: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

Can't buy the swapper theory when my swap file is not on my boot driver
and 100Mb+ is free.

Brad BARCLAY wrote:
> 
> F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net wrote:
> >
> > In <38075fc7$1$s.q.nyvax$mr2ice@news.nl.net>, on 10/15/1999
> >    at 07:08 PM, F.D.Alink@inter.nl.net said:
> >
> > >>> =================
> > >>> Disk Error
> > >>>
> > >>> The INI file, C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI, can not
> > >>> be written to disk. The updates are
> > >>> being held to automatically retry the
> > >>> operation, but will be lost if the
> > >>> system is shutdown before correcting
> > >>> the problem.
> > >>> =================
> >
> > After all your thoughts I dared to do a reboot..... and everything is
> > fine now! I still wonder why this all has happened.....but I don't
> > expect a final answwer.
> 
>         99% of the time this error is displayed because you are running out
of
> disk space on the drive containing the INI file in question, and there
> is insufficient space to write the data safely to disk.
> 
>         Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a
smaller
> size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during the normal
> timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up again, move
> either your swapper to a different drive (if it isn't on a different
> drive/partition already), remove unused files/applications, or move your
> INI files to a different drive/partition with lots of available free
> space.
> 
> Brad BARCLAY
> 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
> E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com            Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      19-Oct-99 00:27:23
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <F5E583ACA41B4AB7.2B03B5BC40A47423.7346B68C3256C7F6@lp.airnews.net>, Dale
Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> writes:

>The PM-3 command-line program is not a DOS program, it is an OS/2
>command-line program.

I thought it was one of those "family mode" programs that can run
in either DOS or OS/2.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    18-Oct-99 20:11:01
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: Re: Lost REXX

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

Brian wrote:

> C:
> cd\MMOS2\AP
> os2sound.bat
> E:\OFFICE\RELISH\STARTNOW
> E:
> cd\OS2APPS\blanker
> start blanker.exe -
> C:\

Right, this lot isn't, and never has been, Rexx. This is a plain batch
file. It needs to start with a comment (/* ... */) and have these
commands in quotes too.

> /* Select Shutdown Sound Effect */
> call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs','RexxUtil','SysLoadFuncs'
> call SysLoadFuncs
> '@echo off'

Now, this is Rexx, so where did the first lot come from? Copied in from
somewhere else perhaps? The result of installing something, or things?

Graham.

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    19-Oct-99 03:36:26
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: Dexxa Wheel Mouse

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

	Happy to report that the el chepo Dexxa Wheel Mouse works with 
the SCROLLMS.EXE drivers.  Not bad for a $19.95 CDN wheel mouse. ;-)


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    19-Oct-99 03:48:12
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: SCROLLMS

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

	I'd just like to say a big thankyou to whoever it was that 
developed this scroll mouse driver for OS/2.  I mean, it is fantastic.  
Not only does the scrolling feature work under native OS/2 PM programs, 
but even OS/2 text based programs, as well as Win-OS/2 Fullscreen/Window 
sessions and even under DOS.  I mean, wow!  My Dexxa Wheelmouse only has 
driver support for Windows 95/NT, and even there the scrolling function 
never works when under a DOS session.
	Keep in mind the SCROLLMS driver only works with PS/2 
scroll/wheel mice.  Dunno why they haven't done anything for the serial 
port one's, but I guess there probably isn't too much of a demand for 
them since every scroll/wheel mouse that I have seen in the computer 
stores of my local area are really PS/2 mice (some come with a PS/2 to 
Serial port adapter...that won't work with SCROLLMS either, BTW).

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 19-Oct-99 04:37:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <380BD554.CD6FD0B5@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>, "Jeffrey S. Kobal"
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> writes:
>
>lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
>
>> Netscape 4.61:  The cache has started messing up in general just recently.  
I've
>> cleared out both memory cache and disk cache, turned them off etc., but I
still
>> keep seeing web pages re-download over and over.
>
>Try turning the caching back ON.
>

smartass :-)

>Jeffrey S. Kobal
>IBM Corporation
>
>

--
H„rad ’ngravv†rd



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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      19-Oct-99 04:19:20
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <6usO3.6097$P6.341170@news2.rdc1.on.home.com>,
  alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) wrote:

> According to the readme, however, scroll-wheels and sticks are
> still only supported for PS/2 mice.  (At least it now says so
> clearly.)

I have yet to see a Wheel mouse in a serial version... Have you?

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: nospam@null                                       19-Oct-99 04:47:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: OT Win95 question

From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane)

On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 06:54:21, <djn@peninsula.hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> So if your motherboard has inbuilt USB, enable the port even though you 
> don't use it.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Regards Dennis.
> 

No usb here.

 And "Antonio Relyea" wrote

>I know it ain't much help, but that (MSGSRV32.EXE) is the offending file

Right again Tony it ain't much help.

Thanks for the replies though.

Richard A Crane 
Check Copyright of this with the author (rcraneATattglobal.net) or you may 
suffer litigation or embarrassment.

General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace shot General and continue?

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From: houckspamless@ibm.net                             18-Oct-99 22:11:16
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: Douglas Houck <houckspamless@ibm.net>

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Oh yes, Microsoft makes one for around $16 -$20 US.

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From: giprice@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 06:01:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: giprice@ibm.net

PMFJI, but I have the same SCSI card so I thought I'd try it.
Didn't show up anywhere.  But then I remembered the scanner
was off.  Doh!  Turn on, reboot, the driver got installed, and:

rmview /irq
RMVIEW: Physical view
  IRQ Level =  0  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    TIMER_CH_0
  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    KBD_0 Keyboard Controller
  IRQ Level =  2  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    PIC_1
  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_1 Serial
Controller
  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_0 Serial
Controller
  IRQ Level =  5  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  Sound Blaster 16 Device
Dri
ver
  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  FLOPPY_0 Floppy
Controller
  IRQ Level =  8  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    RTC
  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    AUX_0 PS/2 Auxiliary
Device
 Controller
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_0 ST506/IDE
Controller
  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_1 ST506/IDE
Controller

and furthermore:

rmview /d
===snipped===

Driver: DANIS506.ADD  -  DMA Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD
Vendor: Dani  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 6/5/1999
Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD

  Adapter: IDE_0 ST506/IDE Controller
  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
  I/O = 0X01F0  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
  I/O = 0X03F6  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
  I/O = 0XF000  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16

  Device: HD_0 QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3840A               FIXED  DISK

  Adapter: IDE_1 ST506/IDE Controller
  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
  I/O = 0X0170  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
  I/O = 0X0376  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
  I/O = 0XF008  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16

Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver
Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996
Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD
IRQ Level = 10  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
I/O = 0X0800  Len =  32  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16

===snipped===
I specified the I/O of 800 and IRQ of 10 in CONFIG.SYS.
Dunno why IRQ 10 does not show up with RMVIEW /IRQ.
Hope that adds to the confusion.  :)

Cheers,
Greg

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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  18-Oct-99 14:35:25
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: MWave was Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

Doug Bissett wrote:

> By the way, the MWave card started life as a 28.8K modem (not
> upgradeable to 33.6K).

? - You may of course be referring to a specific Mwave card,DSP chipset
and/or it's physical design maxima rather than it's upgradeability(via
software) but if this was meant to apply generically to Mwave family then
I think you'll find at least the DSP2780 (eg in early Thinkpad 755 series)
and original "drivers" only provided 14k4 although later drivers upgraded
it to 28k8 and it could be "over clocked" to 33k6.So pardon me for my
"comprehension" problem(or being pendantic) but are you inferring that
33k6 is absolute maxima with a later DSP chipset (thus technically
impossible via firmware upgrade and/or "driver" to increase this to say
v90 or anything non-std in between)?.

Not a trick question - just interested in seeking clarification as the
technology was designed to be upgradeable(within certain limits naturally)
via software?.   Thus it was unclear(to me anyway) whether you were
referring to it's maximum design spec and/or it's initial "driver" spec?

> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

--
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"




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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  18-Oct-99 16:14:15
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: WIN-OS/2 can't see my Gold Card Modem

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>


Rich Walsh wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:28:57, Dr Geoff Hogan <g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk>
wrote:
>
> > Please excuse me if this kind of question has already been answered in
> > an FAQ, just please tell me where to find it!
> >
> > I have OS/2 Warp Connect on my ThinkPad (755CX).  I recently changed to
> > a Psion Dacom Gold Card PCMCIA modem, which works fine with the native
> > OS/2 programmes.  However it is supplied with software to allow it to be
> > set to be used in different countries (rcognise dial tones, etc).  This
> > is supplied as Windows software.  I installed the Win 3.1 version under
> From: rlwalsh@packet.net (Rich Walsh)
> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
> Subject: Re: WIN-OS/2 can't see my Gold Card Modem
> Date: 15 Oct 1999 09:20:27 GMT
> Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com
> Lines: 42
> Message-ID: <zzdHjdPQunhi-pn2-JcHd3YgxXx4K@localhost>
> References: <380345A9.545E91CE@physics.ox.ac.uk>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftm046.usacomputers.net
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> X-Newsreader: ProNews/2 Version 1.50 1
> Path:
news3.prserv.net!newsfeed.us.ibm.net!ibm.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.ma
xwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!pl
n-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews4
> Xref: news3.prserv.net comp.os.os2.misc:209238
>
> On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:28:57, Dr Geoff Hogan <g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk>
wrote:
>
> > Please excuse me if this kind of question has already been answered in
> > an FAQ, just please tell me where to find it!
> >
> > I have OS/2 Warp Connect on my ThinkPad (755CX).  I recently changed to
> > a Psion Dacom Gold Card PCMCIA modem, which works fine with the native
> > OS/2 programmes.  However it is supplied with software to allow it to be
> > set to be used in different countries (rcognise dial tones, etc).  This
> > is supplied as Windows software.  I installed the Win 3.1 version under
> > WIN-OS/2 where it runs, but cannot see the modem (just tells me that COM
> > 2, that it is using, is unavailable).
> >
> > I have gone throught the DOS/WIN-OS/2 session settings, especially the
> > COM ones, and can't find anything to fix it.  Any suggestions?
>
> If COM_DIRECT_ACCESS->ON and the other obvious settings don't work
> in either windowed or full-screen sessions, you might try this
> wild-assed-guess:  comment-out com.sys and vcom.sys in config.sys
> so that OS/2 doesn't even know your com ports exist. Then reboot
> and try again.  I have no idea whether this will work, but it
> should only take a few minutes to find out.

Fair comment (and stranger things have been known to work<g>) but as OS/2
prevents DOS from directly manipulating/accessing hardware directly without
going via a virtualised device driver (ie vcom.sys which also in most
cases requires com.sys) how is removing the VDD supposed to help?
COM_DIRECT_ACCESS allows the dos/winos2 application to directly access the
ports via VCOM.SYS (but then has disadvantage of not using buffers in com.sys
which may loose bits).
COM_HOLD ensures that port is kept open for as long as the dos/winos2 session
is open and prevents com.sys from closing the port when it thinks it's idle
(after default timout).
COM_SELECT ensures only a specific port is used (the others being hidden).
It's not readily apparent as to whether original poster tried these
individually and/or in various combinations?

Apologies if I missed any previous pertinent info/suggestions earlier in
thread but does

> If COM_DIRECT_ACCESS->ON and the other obvious settings don't work
>
also include:
1. Whether this is application specific or generic (eg does winterm produce
same error) and thus potentially also point to PCMCIA, card & socket services? 
(eg VPCMCIA.SYS)  Perhaps the actual specific "application"
requires/assumes Point Enabler software instead of CS/SS and may require a
/IG0=124  or similar parameter to "fudge" it using the latter?
2. Checking the com.sys and vcom.sys dates/sizes? in case the version/level is 
relevant to the problem? (IE trying versions from both later and earlier FP's
may be relevant).
3. Include specifically trying parameters for drivers (including ignoring
unexpected interrupts)? EG:   com.sys (2,02f8,3,I)
4. replacing with SIO drivers and if required the parameters in 2. above?

Not forgetting the obvious to ensure that TP755 system bios is at latest level 
of course....<g>...(v1.44 possibly?)

> (If the app "knows"
> that com2 is at port 2f8, then it may;  if it has to query the
> system for this, then it certainly won't.)

If set explicitly as parameter to COM.SYS then it certainly should, but as you 
recommended remming it out I can't see how it has any choice but to try and
query system?Unless there is a specific Point Enabler(DACOM
monolithic interface) for OS/2 perhaps?

> Another thought:  if these modem parameters are handled as AT
> commands _and_ they're suitably documented, you might try feeding
> them to your modem by entering them as an init string in your
> dialer or terminal program.  You could probably even do this
> from a command line, i.e.
>   "copy con com2:", then "AT[parms]"enter, then Ctrl-Z
>
>    == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
> ___________________________________________________________________
>
>                 |             - DragText v3.1 -
> Rich Walsh      |  A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement
> Ft Myers, FL    |  New!  Pickup & Drop for text, and more...
>                 |  http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/
> ___________________________________________________________________
>
> > WIN-OS/2 where it runs, but cannot see the modem (just tells me that COM
> > 2, that it is using, is unavailable).
> >
> > I have gone throught the DOS/WIN-OS/2 session settings, especially the
> > COM ones, and can't find anything to fix it.  Any suggestions?
>
> If COM_DIRECT_ACCESS->ON and the other obvious settings don't work
> in either windowed or full-screen sessions, you might try this
> wild-assed-guess:  comment-out com.sys and vcom.sys in config.sys
> so that OS/2 doesn't even know your com ports exist. Then reboot
> and try again.  I have no idea whether this will work, but it
> should only take a few minutes to find out.  (If the app "knows"
> that com2 is at port 2f8, then it may;  if it has to query the
> system for this, then it certainly won't.)
>
> Another thought:  if these modem parameters are handled as AT
> commands _and_ they're suitably documented, you might try feeding
> them to your modem by entering them as an init string in your
> dialer or terminal program.  You could probably even do this
> from a command line, i.e.
>   "copy con com2:", then "AT[parms]"enter, then Ctrl-Z
>
>    == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
> ___________________________________________________________________
>
>                 |             - DragText v3.1 -
> Rich Walsh      |  A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement
> Ft Myers, FL    |  New!  Pickup & Drop for text, and more...
>                 |  http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/
> ___________________________________________________________________



--
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"



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From: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnol...               19-Oct-99 06:07:03
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

Message sender: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnoldvanovereem@iname.com

From: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnoldvanovereem@iname.com (Arnold van
Overeem)

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:55:05, mike@lionsgate.com wrote:

>  
> Do any of you out there know of others?
Here are a few more:

The 370/178 which never got it to the market with an IBM label, but instead as
Amdahl V6

The 3290 plasma display in 1982 which was withdrawn, in spite of its success 
in the market.

The 8100 minicomputer, with DPPX and DTMF which enabled real distributed 
client server computing back around 1980 (well the hardware was not really 
fast enough at that time, but the design was correct).

PLS II (the system programming language that was far ahead of C++).

SNA (subarea routing), which was back in 1980 far ahead of Cisco with IP 
today, and what was withdrawn from public domain when IBM started to support 
OSI.

The PC/3270 (contemporary with the XT) which was really advanced, in contrast 
to the basic PC. Included taskswitching with BIOS supported physical memory 
swapping.

The 6610 network controller which was far more advanced than contemporary 
Cisco and Wellfleet routers

SAA which was too early as a generalised concept from which CORBA more or less
is a descendant.

The successor generation after the 3848 cryptographic unit (which in itself 
was 10 years without match)

>  
> Microchannel  Far ahead of the ISA buss, as well as the EISA
> buss, and only matched today with the PCI Buss.
>  
> MWave         Really an engineering and software marvel. Actead
> as a sound card, and a Modeom at 33600
>  
> Token Ring Lan Adapter  Only today with switching hubs can
> Ethernet match what Token ring did 10 years ago!
>  
> OS/2.         Far ahead of Windows even today.
>  
>  
> 

remove windows from your harddisk to reply
==========================================
Arnold van Overeem
==========================================
Let's make the difference/2

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     19-Oct-99 06:27:00
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:05
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

> >Try turning the caching back ON.
>
> smartass :-)

Well, I can't deny there being some level of pretense in my
response, but the facts have a clear implication...

Recent actions taken by Jim L:
Cleared memory and disk cache; set both to 0 (disabled)

Expected results of latter action:
(1) Web pages will not be cached, thereby requiring the
browser to download them from the server every time.
(2) Any "temporary" files stored in the cache will be
removed the next time new files are retrieved (e.g.
loading a web page).

Symptoms reported by Jim L:
(1) "web pages re-downloading over and over"
(2) Won't continue download after abort; restarts again

There appears to be a direct correlation, which led me
to my suggestion that he re-enable the caching.  :)

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: say@sfu.ca                                        19-Oct-99 07:07:05
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:05
Subj: Re: Xywrite and OS/2

From: Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca>

In comp.os.os2.misc Edward Germain <egermain@mediaone.net> wrote:
: On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:33:03, Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca> wrote:

:> In comp.os.os2.apps Esther Schindler <esther@bitranch.com> wrote:
:> : On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 02:49:38, Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca> wrote:
:> : |         and some of us find XYwrite very fast.  It's still
:> : |         sold by The Technology Group in Baltimore.
:> 
: Amazing.  It was the best of the best, but the sad, sad tale when it 
: was sold to IBM and then wrecked in development (the product was to be
: called "Signature"--I still have an alpha version around somewhere) 
: and then abandoned by IBM--well it's too sad to be retold.

: Thank you for the news that to some degree it is still alive!
: --Ed Germain
---------------------
	Ah yes, Signature.  What a terrible non-improvement that
	was.
	I'm somewhat surprised on the Xywrite mailing list by
	the number of people in the active side who use XY
	with OS/2.

	There's an upgrade special offer for the Notabene
	version this month.
	Visit
	 www.notabene.com/xywrite
	for details.
					Daniel Say

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 18:05:23
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Jim Backus wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:46:30, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> > It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
> > re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
> > (which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
> > is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
> >
> > When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
> > SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> > with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
> > NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> > function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> > "whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> > tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> > not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> > was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
> > While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
> > I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
> > tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
> > got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
> > me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
> > have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
> > the connection to start with.
> >
> <snip>
> 
> What fixpack level are you running?  I've had similar problems and
> have often found that the cleanup that seems to be part of the fixpack
> installation appears to improve stability even if the APARs have no
> obvious connection to the problems.  It may be that running inimaint
> or similar might help as much.

I have not added a fixpack to it.  It came pre-installed with fixpack
7 applied.  I'm thinking that probably isn't relevant because of the
fact that it's at the same level it was when it arrived and it arrived
with NC 4.04 working just fine.

> One of the other posters suggested NS 4.61 - I'm not using it yet - my
> 4.04 is perfectly stable so I'm following the "if it ain't broke don't
> fix it" philosophy - but IIRC NS 4.61 _does_ need one of the later
> fixpacks.

I did install 4.61, but the results were the same as with 4.04.
 
> Another poster suggested In-joy dialler which also has a very good
> reputation.

I guess I don't have anything to lose by trying this, although I can't
see what it might be able to cure no matter how good it is at what it
does.
 
> It sounds as though you start your connections by starting the browser
> - have you tried connecting first?

I normally use the dialer to make the connection before starting the
browser, but I have tried it both ways.
 
> Jim Backus  OS/2 user because it's better
> bona fide replies to jimb(at)jita(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk

-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      20-Oct-99 01:50:13
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

DG [-] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯  (*) Users today have to tangle with more junk e-mail,
¯  intrusive banner ads and bandwidth restrictions. Besides

[ snip on over 100 lines site advertisement ]

¯ Reach our 24x7 Reports page by using this URL:
¯ Reach Issue #6 of the IACT Quarterly Newsletter here:
¯ And IACT's Cover Page has all links to all sections:

* And spam on Usenet News as well.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               19-Oct-99 19:20:23
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:08:56 GMT, Stan Goodman wrote:

>We are all free persons (I guess that it the Pollically Correct term) in 
>free countries, and can do what we like. But there is a measure of humor in
>the fact that you are using NS 2.0.2 (God alone knows what build), which 
>was a buggy affair, little improved by 4.0.4, when most of us have gone on 
>to 4.61, which is far more stable.
>
>I can go weeks without an involuntary reboot, and my machine runs eighteen 
>to twenty hours a day.

Mine runs 24/7, just because I don't like waiting for boot up. If I shut it
down I will probably need it again later any ways.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             19-Oct-99 23:26:10
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

Is this a Warp 4 system?  If so what does "RMVIEW /IRQ /DC" show?  
Sometimes PNP crap shows up in the Current Boot Detected view, but not
the Physical view.  No idea why.

Mark


On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:25:01, htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) wrote:

-)
-)RMVIEW/irq provides a pithy <20 line output file. Substitute /d for
-)/irq, and the report runs over 700 lines, (with blanks.) Here is the
-)portion of that >700 lines,  FWIW, on the isa SCSI card I've forced to
-)use irq 15, but which does not show up at all with rmview/irq.
-)
-)Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver 
-)Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996 
-)Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
-)IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
-)
-)BTW PNP also assigns IBM1S506.add to irq14 here, as well.
-)-- 
-)-----------------------------------------------------------
-)htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
-)DemostiX
-)-----------------------------------------------------------
-)


//---------------------------------------------------------
// From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
//  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
//             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             20-Oct-99 00:47:05
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: What FP level?

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

At an OS/2 command prompt type:

VER /R

For Warp 3 here are some kernal Revision -> FP

   XR_W032    8.256
   XR_W033    8.257
   XR_W034    8.258
   XR_W035    8.259
   XR_W036    8.260
   XR_W037    8.261
   XR_W038    8.262
   XR_W039    8.263
   XR_W040    8.264


On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:19:40, ncoffey@netrover.com wrote:

-)I've not only forgotten what FP level of Warp 3 I'm at, but also how 
-)to find out. Would someone please enlighten me?
-)
-)Thank you,
-)Nancy


//---------------------------------------------------------
// From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
//  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
//             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
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From: itsme@oz-online.net                               17-Oct-99 21:30:23
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: G400 drivers & software

From: "Dawn Thorne" <itsme@oz-online.net>

No, I don't think so. I have a G400 MAX with Dual head and it will NOT work
under OS/2. I actually called Matrox and they said it was done by software
and had no software for OS/2...this really sucks because I would give some
of my teeth for that feature in one card.

Craig Miller
Oz Online


> do you mean the g400 actually supports 2 simultaneous monitors under os/2
?
> I am very interested in this feature...
>
> bruno
>
> jerryw12 wrote:
>
> > Absolutely
> >
> >     i am currently running a G400 dual head 32meg , the card came with a
> > CD with all kinds of drivers,
> >
> >     and i must say i am WAY pleased with this card, its a great one.
> > Shop around i got mine for 170.00
> >
> > tom wrote:
> >
> > > Are there OS/2 drivers  for the new G400 dual head video card?
> > >
> > > What about video editing software for OS/2 like that it comes with?
> > >
> > > Is $299.oo a good price for the dual head 16meg version?
> > >
> > > Tom
>


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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 19:59:14
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

David Reiff wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > <Sarcasm>
> > Yes, selecting from a menu to format the OS/2 partition as FAT or HPFS
> > can be a real chore.
> > </Sarcasm>
> >
> 
> As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most
PCs come
> with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper than
> re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
> Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a
bitch.
> 
> Dave

I don't think OS/2 will install on a FAT32 partition.  FAT, yes, but not
FAT32.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: ablair@ibm.net.spam.me.not                        19-Oct-99 18:06:24
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: FP 12 Problems ?

From: "Alex Blair" <ablair@ibm.net.spam.me.not>

To follow up a previous post in which I noted having problems with FP 12 and
then with backing out...

I have successfully backed out of FP 12 to the archived level of FP 10.
Unfortunately, I am still having problems with the system - it will not boot.


Here is the error message on the screen after the machine hangs (there must
be 4 to 5 other similar messages that scroll by too quickly to read).

Note that I use Dialog Enhancer and that I did remember to unintall it before
applying the fixpack. I also use Stardock's Process Commander, which I did
not uninstall as I have applied numerous fixpacks without doing so (I run
PCINSDLL after the FixPack). Lastly, I typically run Checkini every 1-2
weeks. The system has been running without problems for over a year.

Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm not looking forward to a re-install.

Here is the error Info -

A program in this session encountered a problem and cannot
continue.

c0000005
PMMERGE.DLL	0004:00158d55
P1=00000001		P2=00000000		P3=XXXXXXXX	P4=XX
XXXXXX
EAX=00000000	EBX=00000000	ECX=13e3001c	EDX=00000000
ESI=00000000		ED1=000004c2
DS=0053		DSACC=d0f3		DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053		ESACC=d0f3		ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b		FSACC=00f3		FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000		GSACC=****		GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1be58d55		CSACC=d0df		CSLIM=1fffffff	

SS:ESP=0053:0004f9d0		SSACC=d0f3		SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=0004f9e8	FLG=00012246

Many thanks, 

Alex


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From: arelyea@vt.edu                                    19-Oct-99 20:11:08
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: Can't read a certain CD.

From: "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu>

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:02:33 +0100, Dr J A Gow wrote:
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q /W
>
>As far as I know the /W switch should be on the IFS
>line, not the DMD line: viz
>
>IFS=CDFS.IFS /V /Q
I'll give it a shot, it can't hurt.

Tony.


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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          20-Oct-99 01:11:16
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <6PwMOMYPpw0SSwUPSXaB1Nb98XbX@news.kraftwerk.net>
	   Remove "Martin Nisshagen" writes:

> DG [-] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
> »  (*) Users today have to tangle with more junk e-mail,
> »  intrusive banner ads and bandwidth restrictions. Besides
>
> [ snip on over 100 lines site advertisement ]
>
> » Reach our 24x7 Reports page by using this URL:
> » Reach Issue #6 of the IACT Quarterly Newsletter here:
> » And IACT's Cover Page has all links to all sections:
>
> * And spam on Usenet News as well.
>
> Best regards,
>
> m a r t i n | n

I wonder if you have the faintest idea what you are criticising?
Try checking their site before you post this kind of thoughtless
accusation.  Or is it that you cannot tolerate IACT's pursuit of
open standards and dogged opposition to the kind of monopolistic
practices Micros~1 implements?  These people are OS/2's friends;
does that make them your enemies... maybe?
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               19-Oct-99 21:34:10
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:54:14 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>I neglected to say that I did install NC 4.61 and had the very same
>result that I got with 4.04, but don't let that stop you from making
>your snide, condescending remarks, asshole!

What kind of video are you using? What drivers? I got plenty of crashes form
using the Scitech Display Drivers in 16.7Million color. Going to 64K stopped
my crashing. I just installed Beta 8 and I am back up to 16.7 Mill again, so
far so good.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          20-Oct-99 10:50:09
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

I've always installed onto a clean hard disk so I've never
run into the trouble of FAT32, etc. I only install other OSs
once Warp is up and running. They are never permanent
though as I'm constantly trying out new stuff. Right now it's
BeOS. I obviously misunderstood your post.

Cheers

Wayne


On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:59:36 -0500, David Reiff wrote:

:>>
:>>
:>> <Sarcasm>
:>> Yes, selecting from a menu to format the OS/2 partition as FAT or HPFS
:>> can be a real chore.
:>> </Sarcasm>
:>>
:>
:>As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most
PCs come
:>with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper than
:>re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
:>Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a
bitch.
:>
:>Dave
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: dmckenn@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 21:29:11
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@ibm.net>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:30 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
>Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
>stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
>use at those places.
>
>It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
>re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
>(which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
>is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
>
>When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
>SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
>with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
>NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
>function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
>"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
>tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
>not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
>was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
>While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
>I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
>tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
>got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
>me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
>have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
>the connection to start with.
>
>On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
>explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They 
>either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.
>
>I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably because
>I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me to
>the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with this 
>system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
>justify the use of a system with no means of support.
>-- 
>Dale Erwin
>Dallas, Texas
><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">
 
Dale,

   Here's how I would start to troubleshoot this problem:

 1.  Uninstall Netscape
 2.  Reboot
 3.  Copy CONFIG.SYS to CONFIG.SAV. Open the CONFIG.SYS file and remove all
references to the path to Netscape from the 'Libpath=...', 'Set Path=...' and
'Set Dpath=...' lines, if any. While you're in there, look for multiple
entries of any paths on each line and make sure you only end up with one of
each path listed on each line - leave the first one found. Be careful not to
lose any semicolons between paths - leave one at the end too.
Reboot if you make any changes here.
 4. Delete the folder Netscape was installed in (and any other folders that
may contain failed attempts to install).

   The idea is to remove all traces of any installation of Netscape.

 5. Use a tool like WPTOOLS or UNIMAINT to clean out the .INI files to remove
any traces of Netscape(s) from them as well. This is important!
 6. Reboot.

   Now you should be Netscape free. It might be wise to test your dialer and
make sure it connects properly - do a 'ping hobbes.nmsu.edu' from a command
line to check (after dialing). Hang up if all is well. If not, then you have
other problems - grist for another thread:-)

  7. Install Netscape. I much prefer 4.61 - it seems to be the most stable
(on machines I deal with anyway).

 8. Reboot

 9. After rebooting, start your dialer, then start Netscape. You will have to
answer a few questions about your identity, then the browser should open. At
this point, if all goes well, you should be on.

   If it doesn't, repost with the results.

   I have found the latest Netscape to be very stable - it has never crashed
on me yet (knock wood). Of all the things on my present system, the flakiest
is the Matrox video drivers. Changing to MGA GRADD helps some things in that
regard - not all though. You might consider that if you have a Matrox video
card.

  There's no reason this situation can't be cleared up.

Dave McKenna

  


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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         20-Oct-99 02:07:27
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:59:36 -0500, David Reiff wrote:
>As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most PCs 

>come
>with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper than
>re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
>Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a bitch.

What followed?

"HPFS"
"Format partition? Y/n"
"Y"
"Format complete, now installing OS/2"

???

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          20-Oct-99 12:37:05
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: Can't read a certain CD.

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:11:16 -0500 (CDT), Antonio Relyea wrote:

:>On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:02:33 +0100, Dr J A Gow wrote:
:>>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q /W
:>>
:>>As far as I know the /W switch should be on the IFS
:>>line, not the DMD line: viz
:>>
:>>IFS=CDFS.IFS /V /Q
:>I'll give it a shot, it can't hurt.
:>
:>Tony.
:>
:>

Yep, checked the docs again. I must have been under the influence
when I looked the first time.

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      20-Oct-99 05:59:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

e-frog [ITServices, University of British Columbia] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ Well, let's say you jumped ship to WindowsNT. Suppose you have the same
¯ problem. Will Netscape help you? No. Will Microsoft help you? No. Will
¯ Indelible-Blue help you? No.

Agree. Not with NN/NC, but with IE (if you have a legal retail copy of NT).
 
¯ You will be stuck in the same position as before. OS/2 is not the root
¯ problem here, I suspect. Especially since so many people have been running

I think that depends. If NN/NC is able to crash/lock the whole system, not
just the application (even if that could be bad enougth) it's fault of OS.
 
¯ At least on the OS/2 newsgroups, you have a much higher ratio of
¯ knowledgeable people vs "Joe Users" than the WinXX crowd.

Agree 100% (even if the Swedish NT and UNIX groups I read is as good/better).

¯ Try explaining such a problem and see what sort of response you get!

Agree. I think this thread (among many) shows that good type of response.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      20-Oct-99 05:59:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Andrew Stephenson [DNS] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ I wonder if you have the faintest idea what you are criticising?

Something who, at least to me, looked like a clear spam of site ad.

¯ Try checking their site before you post this kind of thoughtless

That's the idea of all spam, isn't it?

¯ practices Micros~1 implements?  These people are OS/2's friends;

The post had IMO very little to do with OS/2 (but the word was mentioned once
very briefly in an example I admit).

¯ does that make them your enemies... maybe?

Haven't visited their site (don't do that when I see such spam).

However, all type of spam on usenet I personally dislike.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: meson2000@erols.com                               20-Oct-99 00:01:23
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: SB Live and OS/2

From: "meson2000" <meson2000@erols.com>

As I wrote before I am switching back to OS/2
and I have a Sound Blaster Live.
I know that there is no driver for this sound card yet.
Can I use the regular SB16 driver in OS/2 and get some
sound out of my SBLive???


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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               19-Oct-99 21:06:02
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:38:38 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>Kim Cheung wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:01:33 -0400, Alan Beagley wrote:
>> 
>> >Dale Erwin wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
>> >> Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
>> >> stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
>> >> use at those places.
>> >>
>> 
>> Dale,
>> 
>> Send me the unit.   If I can't get it fixed for you - I will pay for
>> shipping.
>> 
>> Kim Cheung, Executive Director
>> Serenity System International
>
>Hi Kim,
>
>What is this Serenity System stuff, Kim?  What happened with TouchVoice?

Serenity System is a company I co-founded with Bob St. John for working with
channel partners (like yourself - hint, hint).   TouchVoice has been very
successful (thanks to OS/2) but our focus is primary in vertical telephony
products (systems that can handle hundreds and thousands of T1 lines).  
However, we have all of the technologies that can kick butts for horizontal
market.   So, we formed SSI to share that technology with channel partners.  
 TouchVoice remains focused on vertical markets.

So far, I have created 4 channel partner programs for SSI.   You really
should go to www.serenity-systems.com and check them out.   These products
makes very good margin for our partners.

>That's a very generous offer.  I would take you up on it if I were still
>in California, but current negotiations I am in may be requiring me to
>move to Santa Fe, New Mexico soon, and I can't really do without my
>machine that long.  However, if the offer still stands after the dust
>settles, I will take you up on it.
>-- 

Incidentally, the more I read about your post, the more I am convinced that
you have a TCP/IP problem.   NS2.02 is a very stable product (so is 4.61
beta) and you really shouldn't have that kind of trouble.   And, yes, I do
recommend In-Joy - that helps.

If you still have trouble after New Mexico, contact me - rather than contact
IBM and gets fustrated.   I will fly to New Mexico before I stand there
loosing you as an OS/2 user.   :=)




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From: tabrown@no.ibm.spam.net                           20-Oct-99 03:58:28
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: Help!  Can't create Utility Diskettes

From: tabrown@no.ibm.spam.net (Tom Brown)

Take a look at the diskette that was being created when the process 
stopped. You will find that there are a number of unnecessary files 
present on that diskette.
Open an OS/2 window before you start to create the utility diskettes. 
You will need to continually monitor what is being written to the 
diskette and delete the unnecessary files as soon as they are created.
Some examples are clock02.sys and ibm2flpy.add for non-microchannel 
systems, .SNP files, SCSI and cd-rom drivers for hardware that you 
don't have. For the .SNP files that you remove, be sure to update the 
SNOOP.LST file to remove the names of the .SNP files that you deleted.
For other modules, remove them from the CONFIG.SYS file on the 
diskette. It may take a few tries, but you should be able to get the 
process to complete. Be sure to test the diskettes after they are 
created to make sure that they will boot. 

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:53:04, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> said:
> 
> >this was to use the most up-to-date file versions installed from
> >fixpacks in creating the utility disks rather than the downlevel GA files.  
A
> >great idea but a bug in the program prevented it from working if you
checked
> >the box.  If you don't check the box, the 4 utility boxes are still created
> >from the GA files like always.  Apparently this bug is fixed in fixpack 12
for
> >Warp v4.
> 
> It apparently was, but I have a different problem with it.  When I got to
disk 1
> (second disk) it got to d:\os2\boot\lms206.add and halted with a disk full
> error.  At that point the entire operation is halted.
> 
>  1.  Now what?
> 
>  2.  Big question.  Am I supposed to be able to start a whole new OS/2
> installation using these utility disks?  If not, then we're back to the old
> argument that OS/2 desperately needs a new CD.
> 
> I want to change my #2 machine from Warp 3 to Warp 4 (I run 4 on my main
> machine), and I really don't look forward to trying to bring it up to date
> manually.
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
> 
> 

Tom Brown
tabrown@no.ibm.spam.net
remove obvious garbage from above to reply

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     20-Oct-99 03:30:08
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> Sooooooooooo, if there is something in addition to putting values in the
cache
> windows to turn them on, what is it?
>
> Lacking an answer of substance there, what else can I do?

Have you verified that when you are surfing around, files
are being saved in your cache directory?

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell...               20-Oct-99 02:21:06
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: OS/2 and FAT32

Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net

From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)

[Posted and mailed]

In article <7uiu8n$dl3$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
	"meson2000" <meson2000@erols.com> writes:
> Hey eveyone,
> I am switching back to OS/2.
> The last time I used Os/2 was a couple of years ago
> when v. 4 just came out.
> 
> I wanted to know if OS/2 could read FAT32
> partitions??

AFAIK, there's no official support for FAT-32 in OS/2; however, there's a
third-party driver that works pretty well.  Check the usual OS/2 ftp sites
to locate it.

-- 
Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: tstreet@excel.net                                 19-Oct-99 21:32:03
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: tom <tstreet@excel.net>


Stewart Honsberger wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:59:36 -0500, David Reiff wrote:
> >As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most
PCs
> >come
> >with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper
than
> >re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
> >Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a
bitch.
>
> What followed?
>
> "HPFS"
> "Format partition? Y/n"
> "Y"
> "Format complete, now installing OS/2"
>
> ???

For some people thinking is a bitch, they don't do it very well...

--

--
Tom Street
920-693-2824

   S E M C O
         Street Electric Manufacturing Company
      Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics
      and people with high mobility impairments.

         see it at  http://www.quadjoy.com


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From: tstreet@excel.net                                 19-Oct-99 21:37:11
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: tom <tstreet@excel.net>


Dr D.J. Maconochie wrote:

> Don't give up until you have tried IN-JOY as your dialer. Its brilliant,
what
> more can I say.


You could say where it is...

--

--
Tom Street
920-693-2824

   S E M C O
         Street Electric Manufacturing Company
      Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics
      and people with high mobility impairments.

         see it at  http://www.quadjoy.com


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From: swaugh1@attglobal.net                             19-Oct-99 21:45:27
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: G400 drivers & software

From: Scott Waugh <swaugh1@attglobal.net>

Just an FYI, I was at Warpstock in Atlanta over the weekend and got to hear a
gentleman from Scitech give a briefing.  I can't remember if the initial
release will support the multimonitor support for the G400 or it would come
later (next summer)...but he said it was coming.  He also mentioned that their
driver model will allow them to bring antialiasing font support to OS/2(again
can't remember if this was coming with initial release or later, all the stuff
he talked about was amazing).  I don't know what the antialias thing is, but
he
got a big round of applause when he mentioned it.  The gentleman was extremely
sharp.  IBM has licensed a limited version of the displaydoctor, which will be
very good - but Scitech will sell a "professional" version with other stuff.
We'll see more on all this as they get closer to shipping.

Keep the faith guys, after hearing the Scitech people speak - IMHO of course -
this is an absolutely kick ass product for the OS/2 platform.

Scott

Dawn Thorne wrote:

> No, I don't think so. I have a G400 MAX with Dual head and it will NOT work
> under OS/2. I actually called Matrox and they said it was done by software
> and had no software for OS/2...this really sucks because I would give some
> of my teeth for that feature in one card.
>
> Craig Miller
> Oz Online
>
> > do you mean the g400 actually supports 2 simultaneous monitors under os/2
> ?
> > I am very interested in this feature...
> >
> > bruno
> >
> > jerryw12 wrote:
> >
> > > Absolutely
> > >
> > >     i am currently running a G400 dual head 32meg , the card came with a
> > > CD with all kinds of drivers,
> > >
> > >     and i must say i am WAY pleased with this card, its a great one.
> > > Shop around i got mine for 170.00
> > >
> > > tom wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are there OS/2 drivers  for the new G400 dual head video card?
> > > >
> > > > What about video editing software for OS/2 like that it comes with?
> > > >
> > > > Is $299.oo a good price for the dual head 16meg version?
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> >

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From: louiss@gate.net                                   20-Oct-99 02:44:01
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: louiss@gate.net    (Louis Schulman)

If you can run NS 2.02, but not 4.04 or 4.61, and you get a DNS error, then
your problem is with TCP/IP.  It is this very reason that Warp 3 (unmodified)
has to use 2.02.

There is a complete MPTN refresh and reinstall on IBM's site.  You should run
this, and then install the latest version of TCP/IP v4.0.  Assuming this
solves your problem (I bet it will), you could also then upgrade to 4.1., but
that is not free.  If you can't find these things, let me know, and I'll
search for the URLs

Louis

PS.  I am no expert, but this worked for me.


In <6FCB6DD5E71FD92D.A3A21845164AD425.C6D993056B718C44@lp.airnews.net>, Dale
Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> writes:
>I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
>Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
>stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
>use at those places.
>
>It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
>re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
>(which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
>is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
>
>When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
>SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
>with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
>NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
>function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
>"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
>tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
>not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
>was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
>While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
>I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
>tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
>got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
>me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
>have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
>the connection to start with.
>
>On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
>explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They 
>either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.
>
>I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably because
>I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me to
>the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with this 
>system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
>justify the use of a system with no means of support.
>-- 
>Dale Erwin
>Dallas, Texas
><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net                      19-Oct-99 22:02:02
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>

Stewart Honsberger wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:59:36 -0500, David Reiff wrote:
> >As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most
PCs
> >come
> >with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper
than
> >re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
> >Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a
bitch.
>
> What followed?
>
> "HPFS"
> "Format partition? Y/n"
> "Y"
> "Format complete, now installing OS/2"
>
> ???
>
> --
> Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
> blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

You skipped the part about making that partition in the first place, unless
you
meant to delete all existing files on the hard drive. Anyway, keeping Windows,
which came pre-installed for nearly all of us, and saving our own files while
making an HPFS partition was the bitch. Now there are utilities such as
Partiton
Magic, but I don't think that was around when I installed OS/2 2.0 and 2.1.
Can't
remember if it was around when I installedOS/2 Warp, however. In my case I
added
a second hard drive and formatted the whole thing HPFS.

But my original post, that it was easier to install OS/2 to a FAT partition
than
to an HPFS partition, considering that nearly all computers onto which OS/2
(or
Linux or whatever) is installed come with one partition formatted FAT, still
stands.

Dave

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From: louiss@gate.net                                   20-Oct-99 03:04:08
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: louiss@gate.net    (Louis Schulman)

Here is the URL for the MPTS (not MPTN) refresh:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us/wr08423_conv/

Here is the URL for the stack update:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v4.0os2/latest/stack

There is a readme at both places that explains what to do.  Sometime the
readmes refer to outdated versions of the MPTN package...you just have to 
ignore that.

Louis


In <7uja9i$281i$1@news.gate.net>, louiss@gate.net    (Louis Schulman) writes:

>If you can run NS 2.02, but not 4.04 or 4.61, and you get a DNS error, then
>your problem is with TCP/IP.  It is this very reason that Warp 3 (unmodified)
>has to use 2.02.
>
>There is a complete MPTN refresh and reinstall on IBM's site.  You should run
>this, and then install the latest version of TCP/IP v4.0.  Assuming this
>solves your problem (I bet it will), you could also then upgrade to 4.1., but
>that is not free.  If you can't find these things, let me know, and I'll
>search for the URLs
>
>Louis
>
>PS.  I am no expert, but this worked for me.

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 19-Oct-99 23:17:17
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
>re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
>(which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
>is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.

Have you considered using a more capable third-party PPP dialer like
InJoy (which can re-dial automagically if your connection goes down,
and which also supports fancier features like dial-on-demand)?

The OS/2 DOIP is a fairly basic dialer, admittedly, but it certainly
isn't the only PPP dialing solution for OS/2.

The dial-on-demand feature, BTW, is rather nice -- InJoy sits and waits
for any TCP/IP client to try and connect to the outside world, and when
some client does, it places the access attempt on hold and dials your
ISP, then releases the network request to continue as though you were
already connected in the first place.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                The wall was too high, as you can see!

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      20-Oct-99 06:38:18
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: SB Live and OS/2

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

meson2000 [] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ Can I use the regular SB16 driver in OS/2 and get some
¯ sound out of my SBLive???

Nope (get a Crystal based card instead). 

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            20-Oct-99 04:48:20
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: DPMI extender and OS/2

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <380cebba_2@news1.prserv.net>, Wm D Loughman@MYHOSTNAME.foo.bar () writes:
>In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-9Blpm98EN9hG@localhost>, Doug Bissett wrote:
>>On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 03:27:10, thethoms <thethoms@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>         I am trying to run a DPMI program in a DOS full screen session. 
>>> The program runs, but whenever I try to load or edit a file (its a
>>> graphics program) a page fault occurs.
>>>         I believe it has something to do with the DPMI extender CWSDPMI
>>> and
>>> possibly that it is set to use its own swap file.  Is there any way to
>>> fix this, and if not, is there any way to disable the DPMI support of
>>> the DOS box and allow it to use CWSDPMI?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Travis Thoms
>>> 
>>
>>I doubt if it will help, but go to the DOS session settings, and set 
>>DPMI_DOS_API to NONE. The reason I don't think it will help, is that 
>>OS/2, probably, won't let an unknown (to it) memory manager take over 
>>anything.
>>

If the program uses DPMI, then why would you set it to none?

There are some DPMI programs which can, so I think I remember, by
setting it to the option ENABLED which I think I remember, forces it to
be available when some programs can't somehow, activate it!  At the same
time, there are also some programs which use memory management that
requires the page frame for page frame controlled memory which also can
require that you manually tell OS/2 where that frame must be.  By
experimenting with both these settings and moving the page frame around,
at times a program can be run which will not run with everything on
automatic control.

I think you can experiment with this a bit to prove that forcing things
does make a difference.  Make your session xxxEXEC.BAT file call a
memory map and display utility in DOS and also report free memory with a
MEM statement, then pause so you can get a look at things.

As a starter, not that free memory can change, in certain hardware
instances, just by moving the page frame around by hand!

Then, taking the SAME KIND OF INFO from a real DOS run of this program,
not under OS/2, try to map out all of the stuff in the OS/2 DOS-VDM
session in the settings for it.  By hand tailoring some of these things
you can really control easily in OS/2, what I'll suggest are poorly
written DOS programs, can sometimes be made to work just fine that
otherwise would be junk.

Of course, the other aspect of this is there.  Hand tailoring these
things can also lead to conflicts that will make programs unstable as
well!

As a last note.  Certain DOS programs, such as the old SUPERCALC 5.21
code, are sensitive to NETWORK operations, including the way a program
acts about file manipulation.  You may find, as I did, that SC5 won't
run if OS/2 doesn't have the requester running and PEER running, but
pops to life as soon as you log onto the network on your own box!  If
the DOS program uses INT21H complex disk operations and is checking some
things there, perhaps it isn't being munged by the DMPI deal, but being
munged by I/O conflicts you haven't discovered, of yet!

Just thoughts that might help!


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 23:48:20
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

David McKenna wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:30 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:
> 
> >I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
> >Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
> >stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
> >use at those places.
> >
> >It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
> >re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
> >(which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
> >is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
> >
> >When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
> >SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> >with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
> >NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> >function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> >"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> >tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> >not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> >was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
> >While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
> >I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
> >tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
> >got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
> >me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
> >have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
> >the connection to start with.
> >
> >On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
> >explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They
> >either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.
> >
> >I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably because
> >I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me to
> >the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with this
> >system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
> >justify the use of a system with no means of support.
> >--
> >Dale Erwin
> >Dallas, Texas
> ><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">
> 
> Dale,
> 
>    Here's how I would start to troubleshoot this problem:
> 
>  1.  Uninstall Netscape
>  2.  Reboot
>  3.  Copy CONFIG.SYS to CONFIG.SAV. Open the CONFIG.SYS file and remove all
> references to the path to Netscape from the 'Libpath=...', 'Set Path=...'
and
> 'Set Dpath=...' lines, if any. While you're in there, look for multiple
> entries of any paths on each line and make sure you only end up with one of
> each path listed on each line - leave the first one found. Be careful not to
> lose any semicolons between paths - leave one at the end too.
> Reboot if you make any changes here.
>  4. Delete the folder Netscape was installed in (and any other folders that
> may contain failed attempts to install).

How about if I copy them to my SyJet Drive then mount a different
cartridge, just in case something needs to be restored?

>    The idea is to remove all traces of any installation of Netscape.
> 
>  5. Use a tool like WPTOOLS or UNIMAINT to clean out the .INI files to
remove
> any traces of Netscape(s) from them as well. This is important!

This may be my downfall and possibly the reason my previous reinstalls
had no effect.  I didn't have an INI editor, but I have recently 
downloaded and installed INITOOLS from hobbes. 

Am I only concerned with OS2.INI?  What about OS2SYS.INI?  Others?
I also hope I will be able to recognize all those elements which are
Netscape-related.  I know there is a Netscape.INI, but it should be
completely deleted, right?
	
>  6. Reboot.
> 
>    Now you should be Netscape free. It might be wise to test your dialer and
> make sure it connects properly - do a 'ping hobbes.nmsu.edu' from a command
> line to check (after dialing). Hang up if all is well. If not, then you have
> other problems - grist for another thread:-)
> 
>   7. Install Netscape. I much prefer 4.61 - it seems to be the most stable
> (on machines I deal with anyway).

I have it already.

>  8. Reboot
> 
>  9. After rebooting, start your dialer, then start Netscape. You will have
to
> answer a few questions about your identity, then the browser should open. At
> this point, if all goes well, you should be on.
> 
>    If it doesn't, repost with the results.

If it doesn't how do I post the results?
Guess I could use News Reader/2.

>    I have found the latest Netscape to be very stable - it has never crashed
> on me yet (knock wood). Of all the things on my present system, the flakiest
> is the Matrox video drivers. Changing to MGA GRADD helps some things in that
> regard - not all though. You might consider that if you have a Matrox video
> card.
> 
>   There's no reason this situation can't be cleared up.
> 
> Dave McKenna
> 
> 

Before I begin, I also want to say that a couple of weeks ago I did
a comparison study of all my CONFIG.SYS backups to see what the
differences were regarding the Netscape entries.  Unexpectedly, I
discovered that the first failure of Netscape 4.04 came immediately
after I installed VisualAge COBOL.  I didn't really think about this
at the time, but the dates on those CONFIG.SYS backups are, in my
opinion, pretty conclusive.  It seems the COBOL install put its
directory at the head of the PATH and LIBPATH concatenations and it
also put the ".;" at the very beginning of each one.  I remember
reading somewhere that the ".:" should not come before the Netscape
entries.  I thought that was probably what caused the problem, but
the first re-install I did seemed to correct that problem in the
CONFIG.SYS.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 23:54:21
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Louis Schulman wrote:
> 
> Here is the URL for the MPTS (not MPTN) refresh:
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us/wr08423_conv/
> 
> Here is the URL for the stack update:
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v4.0os2/latest/stack
> 
> There is a readme at both places that explains what to do.  Sometime the
> readmes refer to outdated versions of the MPTN package...you just have to
> ignore that.
> 
> Louis
> 
> In <7uja9i$281i$1@news.gate.net>, louiss@gate.net    (Louis Schulman)
writes:
> 
> >If you can run NS 2.02, but not 4.04 or 4.61, and you get a DNS error, then
> >your problem is with TCP/IP.  It is this very reason that Warp 3
(unmodified)
> >has to use 2.02.
> >
> >There is a complete MPTN refresh and reinstall on IBM's site.  You should
run
> >this, and then install the latest version of TCP/IP v4.0.  Assuming this
> >solves your problem (I bet it will), you could also then upgrade to 4.1.,
but
> >that is not free.  If you can't find these things, let me know, and I'll
> >search for the URLs
> >
> >Louis
> >
> >PS.  I am no expert, but this worked for me.

Thanks for this information.  However, I have just ordered the FixPack
CD from BMT Micro and it includes the MPTS and the TCP/IP fixes and
everything is installable from the CD.  I think I'll wait until the CD
gets here rather than do all that downloading over a dial-up connection.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                20-Oct-99 00:07:20
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Martin Nisshagen wrote:
> 
> e-frog [ITServices, University of British Columbia] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
> 
> ¯ Well, let's say you jumped ship to WindowsNT. Suppose you have the same
> ¯ problem. Will Netscape help you? No. Will Microsoft help you? No. Will
> ¯ Indelible-Blue help you? No.
> 
> Agree. Not with NN/NC, but with IE (if you have a legal retail copy of NT).
> 
> ¯ You will be stuck in the same position as before. OS/2 is not the root
> ¯ problem here, I suspect. Especially since so many people have been running
> 
> I think that depends. If NN/NC is able to crash/lock the whole system, not
> just the application (even if that could be bad enougth) it's fault of OS.
> 
> ¯ At least on the OS/2 newsgroups, you have a much higher ratio of
> ¯ knowledgeable people vs "Joe Users" than the WinXX crowd.
> 
> Agree 100% (even if the Swedish NT and UNIX groups I read is as
good/better).
> 
> ¯ Try explaining such a problem and see what sort of response you get!
> 
> Agree. I think this thread (among many) shows that good type of response.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> m a r t i n | n
> 
> --
> Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K  
:)
> CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
> d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

Well I have to agree with that last statement Martin.  For some reason
they all turned out this time and looks like I have some pretty good
info this time.  This wasn't the case the other three times I tried it.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                20-Oct-99 00:12:07
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Richard Steiner wrote:
> 
> Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>
> spake unto us, saying:
> 
> >It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
> >re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
> >(which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
> >is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
> 
> Have you considered using a more capable third-party PPP dialer like
> InJoy (which can re-dial automagically if your connection goes down,
> and which also supports fancier features like dial-on-demand)?
> 
> The OS/2 DOIP is a fairly basic dialer, admittedly, but it certainly
> isn't the only PPP dialing solution for OS/2.
> 
> The dial-on-demand feature, BTW, is rather nice -- InJoy sits and waits
> for any TCP/IP client to try and connect to the outside world, and when
> some client does, it places the access attempt on hold and dials your
> ISP, then releases the network request to continue as though you were
> already connected in the first place.

Since everyone seems to be in agreement about InJoy, I guess I'm gonna
have to give it a try.  It sure as hell can't be any worse than what's
going on now, and sounds like it has to be a lot better.

Thanks.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: giprice@ibm.net                                   20-Oct-99 05:47:21
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: giprice@ibm.net

Adding further to this at the end....

In <pPTO3.15538$D33.43748@ozemail.com.au>, giprice@ibm.net writes:
>PMFJI, but I have the same SCSI card so I thought I'd try it.
>Didn't show up anywhere.  But then I remembered the scanner
>was off.  Doh!  Turn on, reboot, the driver got installed, and:
>
>rmview /irq
>RMVIEW: Physical view
>  IRQ Level =  0  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    TIMER_CH_0
>  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    KBD_0 Keyboard
Controller
>  IRQ Level =  2  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    PIC_1
>  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_1 Serial
Controller
>  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_0 Serial
Controller
>  IRQ Level =  5  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  Sound Blaster 16 Device
Dri
>ver
>  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  FLOPPY_0 Floppy
Controller
>  IRQ Level =  8  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    RTC
>  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    AUX_0 PS/2 Auxiliary
Device
> Controller
>  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_0 ST506/IDE
Controller
>  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_1 ST506/IDE
Controller
>
>and furthermore:
>
>rmview /d
>===snipped===
>
>Driver: DANIS506.ADD  -  DMA Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD
>Vendor: Dani  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 6/5/1999
>Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD
>
>  Adapter: IDE_0 ST506/IDE Controller
>  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
>  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
>  I/O = 0X01F0  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0X03F6  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0XF000  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>
>  Device: HD_0 QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3840A               FIXED  DISK
>
>  Adapter: IDE_1 ST506/IDE Controller
>  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
>  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
>  I/O = 0X0170  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0X0376  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0XF008  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>
>Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver
>Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996
>Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD
>IRQ Level = 10  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
>I/O = 0X0800  Len =  32  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>
>===snipped===
>I specified the I/O of 800 and IRQ of 10 in CONFIG.SYS.
>Dunno why IRQ 10 does not show up with RMVIEW /IRQ.
>Hope that adds to the confusion.  :)
>
>Cheers,
>Greg
>
Trying Mark's idea:
rmview /irq /dc
RMVIEW: Current Boot Detected view
  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    IBM Keyboard Controller
  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  Serial Device
  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  Serial Device
  IRQ Level =  5  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    SYM 53C416
  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IBM Floppy Controller
  IRQ Level =  7  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    Audio
  IRQ Level = 11  PCI Pin = A     Flg = SHARED       PCI Device 03-00-00
  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = SHARED       AUX_0 PS/2 Auxiliary
Device
 Controller
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  ST506 HardDisk
  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  ST506 HardDisk

seems sensible but IRQ 10 still does not show up.  But then a clue:

rmview /da
===snipped===

Driver: ISAPNP.SNP  -  PnP snooper device driver
Vendor: IBM OS/2 WARP  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 1/9/1996
Flag:              Type-Subtype: SERVICE

  Detected Hardware Function: SYM 53C416

  PnP Device ID: SLI4163
  PnP Compatible Device ID: none

  I/O = 0X0220  Len =  32  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
  IRQ Level =  5  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE

===snipped===

So there we have it.  The PnP card was detected on IRQ 5 but
this is overridden by the driver to IRQ 10.  (I wanted IRQ 5 and
I/O 220 for the sound card, thus freeing IRQ 7 for LPT1 Peer to
Peer.  Printer is on LPT2 but I don't use /IRQ on the printer
driver - though I still suspect there is some deep-seated IRQ
conflict there somewhere re IRQ 5.  Win95 won't have the sound card
there.  And another thing...  every time I reboot after Win95
I get "Updating ESCD.... Success" but I don't get this after
rebooting OS/2.  I wonder what that means....)

Cheers,
Greg

P.S.  ESCD stands for Extended System Configuration Data, I believe.
P.P.S.  In summary, to find a free IRQ I think it is prudent to go through
a voluminous RMVIEW display.  The alluring summary of RMVIEW /IRQ
doesn't cut it, although this may not necessarily be a bug in RMVIEW -
it could be WAD.

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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  20-Oct-99 06:11:04
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:54:14, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:

> Stan Goodman wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:46:30, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:
> > 
> > We are all free persons (I guess that it the Pollically Correct term) in
> > free countries, and can do what we like. But there is a measure of humor
in
> > the fact that you are using NS 2.0.2 (God alone knows what build), which
> > was a buggy affair, little improved by 4.0.4, when most of us have gone on
> > to 4.61, which is far more stable.
> > 
> > I can go weeks without an involuntary reboot, and my machine runs eighteen
> > to twenty hours a day.
> > 
> > If your system is less stable than that, perhaps you might do better to
> > think of why this is so, rather than jumping from the frying pan into the
> > fire.
> > 
> > But, if you like to play with toys, WindowsXX is the way for you to go.
> 
> I neglected to say that I did install NC 4.61 and had the very same
> result that I got with 4.04, but don't let that stop you from making
> your snide, condescending remarks, asshole!

Now that we have determined the level of discourse of which you are 
capable, I understand that the following question may not have ocured to 
you at all:

If you have more problems with your OS/2 installation than the rest of us, 
does that say something about your installation? Or does it mean that OS/2 
is at fault?

As I said, nobody stops you from moving to Windows in any of its varieties,
or Linux, if you wish, or even CP/M. The question in my own mind is why you
find it necessary to justify your choice in a public forum. Nobody here 
knew of your existence until yesterday, and you will presumably be gone 
from her by tomorrow. What, then, do we care what you do? And why is it 
important for you to justify your move to us? 

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 19-Oct-99 23:40:03
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>But my original post, that it was easier to install OS/2 to a FAT
>partition than to an HPFS partition, considering that nearly all
>computers onto which OS/2 (or Linux or whatever) is installed come
>with one partition formatted FAT, still stands.

You must mean installing it in a Dual-boot configuration?

If you install it over the OS which previously resided in the C: drive,
the complexity of the OS/2 installation is roughly the same regardless
of the filesystem you choose to use.

Also, the complexity of installation is roughly equivalent regardless
of the filesystem choses if you choose to install the OS into a new
partition, or if you choose to install it in a partition which already
existed.  Filesystem type is a nonfactor in those instances.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           What? Monday again! Didn't we have that last week?

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 19-Oct-99 23:31:19
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>If people badmouth NT it really doesn't bother me.  Quit treating Linux
>as a treasured posession, it's just an OS for Gods sake & if others don't
>like it does it really matter that much to you?

Actually, Linux does represent something which is quite different than
most operating systems (although it's not alone in that, since the free
BSD flavors and the GNU Hurd are also similar in some respects):

Linux is a non-proprietary operating system, meaning that it can't be
withdrawn or arbitrarily modified (in the way that so many proprietary
OSes have been withdrawn or modified in the past) by its owner in such
a way as to force its users to migrate or leave unwillingly.

I think that's a very important concept to remember, and also something
well deserving of the kind of attention some of us choose to give it.

I believe that Linux and other open-source operating systems have the
potential to fundamentally change the manner in which common desktop
and server operating systems are distributed, updated, and marketed.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
          The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes.

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From: dunmunro@direct.ca                                20-Oct-99 06:48:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: dunmunro@direct.ca (Duncan Munro)

Gee, If everytime I had a software bug I threw up my hands and decided
to change OS I'd be back to Dos 3 by now.

We need more info regarding your system:

what video card? what video drivers?

what MB?

IDE or SCSI HDDs and what brand of controller?

what fixpack level are you at?

did you install the fixpack for Comm 404?

has your ISP made any changes lately?

Duncan


On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:30 -0400, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>
wrote:

>I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
>Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
>stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
>use at those places.
>
>It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
>re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
>(which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
>is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
>
>When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD, 1.5GB
>SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
>with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04 installed.
>NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
>function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
>"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
>tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
>not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
>was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been working.
>While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up connection.
>I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
>tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
>got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
>me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
>have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
>the connection to start with.
>
>On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
>explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They 
>either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.
>
>I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably because
>I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me to
>the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with this 
>system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
>justify the use of a system with no means of support.
>-- 
>Dale Erwin
>Dallas, Texas
><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: andy@schiller.big.ac.at                           20-Oct-99 08:58:10
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: Netscape Plug-ins

From: andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at>


John Poltorak schrieb:

> Can some point me to a guide to how Netscape plug-ins work?
>
> I realise you need to copy a DLL from the plug-in to the directory :-
>
> x:\netscape\PROGRAM\PLUGINS
>
> But I can't work out how the DLL locates the associated executable,
> such as acroread.exe for example. Do I need to set up an association
> between the file type PDF and Acroread.exe to be able to use the Acrobat
> plug-in?

Apart from this problem is it possible to tell OS/2 to load the Acrobat
Reader if a *.pfd-file is going to be down loaded.

greetings
            Andreas

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 20-Oct-99 01:25:24
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)
spake unto us, saying:

>As I said, nobody stops you from moving to Windows in any of its varieties,
>or Linux, if you wish, or even CP/M. The question in my own mind is why you
>find it necessary to justify your choice in a public forum. Nobody here 
>knew of your existence until yesterday, and you will presumably be gone 
>from her by tomorrow. What, then, do we care what you do? And why is it 
>important for you to justify your move to us?

AFAIK, Dale has been posting in the comp.os.os2.* newsgroups for some
time.  Several months at least.  I'd doublecheck in DejaNews, but I
don't think it's necessary.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           Buy Stacker? Why not just delete Windows?

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From: andy@schiller.big.ac.at                           20-Oct-99 09:11:06
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: OS/2 and FAT32

From: andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at>


meson2000 schrieb:

> Hey eveyone,
> I am switching back to OS/2.
> The last time I used Os/2 was a couple of years ago
> when v. 4 just came out.
>
> I wanted to know if OS/2 could read FAT32
> partitions??
>
> It couldn't before. Is there a patch or anything available??
> Thanks in advance.

You can get it here:

http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html

some other useful ifs drivers:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/matthieu.willm/ext2-os2/index.html   (for access
to linux partitions)
http://www.dsteiner.com/products/software/os2/ifs.htm         (for vfat
access (a little buggy), unfortunately there seems to be some problem to
access his homepage)

for other you can visit elementary os/2 ftp sites:

http://www.leo.org/pub/comp/os/os2/leo/drivers/ifs/
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?sh=1&dir=/pub/os2/system/drivers/filesy
s

Greetings
            Andreas


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From: andy@schiller.big.ac.at                           20-Oct-99 09:20:18
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: andy <andy@schiller.big.ac.at>


Dale Erwin schrieb:

> I installed NC4.61 and got the exact same results from it that I got
> with 4.04.  The only one that works is 2.02
> --
> Dale Erwin
> Dallas, Texas

Have you tried to deinstall and install netscape (to be sure that there were
no
wrong entries?). Else try to create a  different user with the
profile-manager.

Greetings and good luck
                Andreas

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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 20-Oct-99 08:14:29
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: Re: partition magic for os/2

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:44:46, pdrumm@dwave.net (Peter Drumm) wrote:

> Nope, the DOS program is PQMAGICT.EXE, 751,239 bytes. The OS/2 program
> is PMAGICOT.EXE, 482,006 bytes.
>  Peter Drumm, Wausau WI  <pdrumm@dwave.net> 

If you boot to DOS, go to the directory where you installed Partition 
Magic v3 and type PQMAGIC.EXE the program will run in DOS mode with a 
graphics interface.

PQMAGICT.EXE (or for OS/2, PQMAGIOT.EXE) is the same but without the 
graphics interface.

Jan Swartling
 Blue Soft
 Sweden

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From: Brian@webone.com.au                               20-Oct-99 18:47:06
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Brian@webone.com.au

In <qzpxraavozarg.fjvo4y1.pminews@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, "David McKenna"
<dmckenn@ibm.net> writes:
>On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:30 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

BIG SNIP

>
>Dale,
>
>   Here's how I would start to troubleshoot this problem:
>
> 1.  Uninstall Netscape
> 2.  Reboot
> 3.  Copy CONFIG.SYS to CONFIG.SAV. Open the CONFIG.SYS file and remove all
>references to the path to Netscape from the 'Libpath=...', 'Set Path=...' and
>'Set Dpath=...' lines, if any. While you're in there, look for multiple
>entries of any paths on each line and make sure you only end up with one of
>each path listed on each line - leave the first one found. Be careful not to
>lose any semicolons between paths - leave one at the end too.
>Reboot if you make any changes here.
> 4. Delete the folder Netscape was installed in (and any other folders that
>may contain failed attempts to install).
>
>   The idea is to remove all traces of any installation of Netscape.
>
> 5. Use a tool like WPTOOLS or UNIMAINT to clean out the .INI files to remove
>any traces of Netscape(s) from them as well. This is important!
> 6. Reboot.
>
>   Now you should be Netscape free. It might be wise to test your dialer and
>make sure it connects properly - do a 'ping hobbes.nmsu.edu' from a command
>line to check (after dialing). Hang up if all is well. If not, then you have
>other problems - grist for another thread:-)
>
>  7. Install Netscape. I much prefer 4.61 - it seems to be the most stable
>(on machines I deal with anyway).
>
> 8. Reboot
>
> 9. After rebooting, start your dialer, then start Netscape. You will have to
>answer a few questions about your identity, then the browser should open. At
>this point, if all goes well, you should be on.
>
>   If it doesn't, repost with the results.
>
>   I have found the latest Netscape to be very stable - it has never crashed
>on me yet (knock wood). Of all the things on my present system, the flakiest
>is the Matrox video drivers. Changing to MGA GRADD helps some things in that
>regard - not all though. You might consider that if you have a Matrox video
>card.
>
>  There's no reason this situation can't be cleared up.
>
>Dave McKenna
>

Just a further option to Dave's list. After  STEP 6 I would suggest installing
FP12. By all accounts it improves the stability of most things.

Brian

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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          20-Oct-99 09:30:13
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Richard Steiner <rsteiner@visi.com> wrote in message
news:rWUD4oHpvaOB092yn@visi.com...
> Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> >If people badmouth NT it really doesn't bother me.  Quit treating Linux
> >as a treasured posession, it's just an OS for Gods sake & if others don't
> >like it does it really matter that much to you?
>
> Actually, Linux does represent something which is quite different than
> most operating systems (although it's not alone in that, since the free
> BSD flavors and the GNU Hurd are also similar in some respects):
>
> Linux is a non-proprietary operating system, meaning that it can't be
> withdrawn or arbitrarily modified (in the way that so many proprietary
> OSes have been withdrawn or modified in the past) by its owner in such
> a way as to force its users to migrate or leave unwillingly.
>
> I think that's a very important concept to remember, and also something
> well deserving of the kind of attention some of us choose to give it.
>
> I believe that Linux and other open-source operating systems have the
> potential to fundamentally change the manner in which common desktop
> and server operating systems are distributed, updated, and marketed.
>good manners is fast reflexes.


If you enjoy working with Linux I'm not going to argue with that.  The
original post asked for opinions & *my* opinion is that NT is better.
If you enjoy Linux does it honestly matter if I don't?
This is the point I am trying to make.  I simply don't understand some
people who get upset when you tell them you place a MS OS in higher regard
than Linux.
It is simply opinion & personal choice, we are all different.


--
Richard Dakin

+++ No email please +++



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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    20-Oct-99 05:47:20
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <7ufsgp$vc6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir wrote:
>Hi...
>I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to
>another . does anyone know any way and protocol to done this
>correctly ,when receiver doesn't know any thing about size or name of
>transferring file ?
>please send for me a mail if you have any source code or example or
>know any good site to help me .

You'll need a "null modem" cable or adapter.  As for software, almost 
any terminal program can do this.  Or you could enable PPP on both 
computers and use it to transfer files.



-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    20-Oct-99 06:58:09
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:26
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article
<F65AE83FA134B80C.97EA642988A43FEB.B3F58B74BCE97822@lp.airnews.net>,
Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:
>
>Since everyone seems to be in agreement about InJoy, I guess I'm gonna
>have to give it a try.  It sure as hell can't be any worse than what's
>going on now, and sounds like it has to be a lot better.
>
>Thanks.

I'll throw my $.02 worth in for Injoy. I've been using it for several
years, with several different ISPs (latest one is Dial-Up ISDN), and
it works flawlessly. DOD (Dial On Demand) is a very nice feature. I
have 3 systems on a LAN, all running the SETI@home Client, and when
one of the machines completes a Work Unit, the Injoy system dials out,
connects, and the SETI@home Client "does its thing".

Last weekend, in Atlanta, Warpstock 99 used Injoy to allow all the
vendors to have access to the Internet. Thanks to the developer of
Injoy, Bjarne Jensen for his gracious donation of a 100 user license,
the networking team installed Injoy on an IBM Netfinity Server running
WSeB with DHCP. Web surfing, e-mail, IRC and FTP Uploads/Downloads
worked flawlessly the entire weekend, as well as the 12 hours of Live
Video feeds that went out from the show. With DHCP enabled on the
vendor systems, everything, including Injoy, was invisible. No setup
hassles, no connection problems, nothing. It just worked ... and it
worked VERY well.

Check out the products available, and choose the right one for your
use (there are 3 different products now available).

http://www.fx.dk/

--
**************************************************************
*  Dan Casey                                                 *
*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
**************************************************************
*  E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key             *
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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  20-Oct-99 12:10:23
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

In article <qzpxraavozarg.fjvo4y1.pminews@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
  "David McKenna" <dmckenn@ibm.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:30 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:
>
> >I have been running OS/2 for the past ten years.  I have had to use
> >Windows and most client sites.  I have always been impressed by the
> >stability of OS/2 versus the "reboot-3-times-a-day" systems I had to
> >use at those places.
> >
> >It has now reached the point that my Warp 4 system has to be
> >re-booted more often than the Win95/NT systems at the client sites
> >(which have become fairly stable lately).  I am sure that the culprit
> >is Netscape 2.02 for it is ALWAYS in control when the system freezes.
> >

Looking back the last years of my heavy OS/2 usage, I must admit that
also here in MOST cases when freezes happened Netscape was somehow
involved: I really don't like this dinosaur of a program very much,
because it seems to be badly programmed as I would assume. Many times I
was VERY MUCH frustrated with it!!

However, in order to FINALLY get something stable I always gave the next
release of Netscape a chance and I had the impression that things
finally improved from release to release, up to a rather stable 4.61
now.

Btw, I updated other parts of the system as well (system fixpak 11,
TCPIP etc.), so also this might have helped.

For the rest I can only underline and suggest the strategy of David
McKenna (cited below), because I am very much convinced that there MUST
be a way to get Netscape running also on your system!!

Greetings,
Cornelis

> >When I bought this computer (AMD K6-2 400, 256MB RAM, 8.2GB HDD,
1.5GB
> >SyJet Cartridge Drive) from Indelible Blue almost a year ago, it came
> >with Warp 4 pre-installed and had Netscape Communicator 4.04
installed.
> >NC404 worked just fine for about 6 weeks and one day just refused to
> >function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
> >"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
> >tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could
> >not help me.  Netscape cannot help me.  IBM *will* not help me.  I
> >was able to install Netscape 2.02 successfully and it has been
working.
> >While it has other problems, it can at least find my dial-up
connection.
> >I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I
later
> >tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
> >got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems
to
> >me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
> >have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about
finding
> >the connection to start with.
> >
> >On several other occassions people here have tried to help, but after
> >explaining the problem,  I got no further response from them.  They
> >either forgot, or just didn't have any answers.
> >
> >I have been experiencing many more freeze-ups lately (probably
because
> >I have been using Netscape much more lately), and it has brought me
to
> >the end of my rope.  I have decided that I can no longer live with
this
> >system.  I don't know what my next step will be, but I can no longer
> >justify the use of a system with no means of support.
> >--
> >Dale Erwin
> >Dallas, Texas
> ><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">
>
> Dale,
>
>    Here's how I would start to troubleshoot this problem:
>
>  1.  Uninstall Netscape
>  2.  Reboot
>  3.  Copy CONFIG.SYS to CONFIG.SAV. Open the CONFIG.SYS file and
remove all
> references to the path to Netscape from the 'Libpath=...', 'Set
Path=...' and
> 'Set Dpath=...' lines, if any. While you're in there, look for
multiple
> entries of any paths on each line and make sure you only end up with
one of
> each path listed on each line - leave the first one found. Be careful
not to
> lose any semicolons between paths - leave one at the end too.
> Reboot if you make any changes here.
>  4. Delete the folder Netscape was installed in (and any other folders
that
> may contain failed attempts to install).
>
>    The idea is to remove all traces of any installation of Netscape.
>
>  5. Use a tool like WPTOOLS or UNIMAINT to clean out the .INI files to
remove
> any traces of Netscape(s) from them as well. This is important!
>  6. Reboot.
>
>    Now you should be Netscape free. It might be wise to test your
dialer and
> make sure it connects properly - do a 'ping hobbes.nmsu.edu' from a
command
> line to check (after dialing). Hang up if all is well. If not, then
you have
> other problems - grist for another thread:-)
>
>   7. Install Netscape. I much prefer 4.61 - it seems to be the most
stable
> (on machines I deal with anyway).
>
>  8. Reboot
>
>  9. After rebooting, start your dialer, then start Netscape. You will
have to
> answer a few questions about your identity, then the browser should
open. At
> this point, if all goes well, you should be on.
>
>    If it doesn't, repost with the results.
>
>    I have found the latest Netscape to be very stable - it has never
crashed
> on me yet (knock wood). Of all the things on my present system, the
flakiest
> is the Matrox video drivers. Changing to MGA GRADD helps some things
in that
> regard - not all though. You might consider that if you have a Matrox
video
> card.
>
>   There's no reason this situation can't be cleared up.
>
> Dave McKenna
>
>


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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        20-Oct-99 12:24:19
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: How to Transfer File with serial port?

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <9+YD4odSRwOU089yn@ibm.net>, jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) writes:
>In article <7ufsgp$vc6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, salsal@pasargad.shirazu.ac.ir
wrote:
>>Hi...
>>I want to transfer a file from rs232 serial port from one computer to
>>another . does anyone know any way and protocol to done this
>>correctly ,when receiver doesn't know any thing about size or name of
>>transferring file ?
>>please send for me a mail if you have any source code or example or
>>know any good site to help me .
>
>You'll need a "null modem" cable or adapter.  As for software, almost 
>any terminal program can do this.  Or you could enable PPP on both 
>computers and use it to transfer files.


At one time I came across an NDIS driver for a serial port, which in effect
means
you could use the port as a slow network port defined as lan0 - lan9  in 
setup.cmd.

Unfortunately I can't recall where I came across this file - it may have been
included in something like LAN Distance.

>
>
>-- 
>E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
>_________________________________________________________________________
>The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
>IBM Canada Ltd.

--
John

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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         20-Oct-99 13:25:05
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Questions about Print Spool path change

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

HP Vectra PC running OS/2 Warp 4 FP10; 2 HDs, 3 partitions C: D: and
E:, boot drive is C:, that's where all the software is installed.

I am running this system ONLY so we can use Print Services Facility/2
(an IBM Advanced Function Presentation package) to print bank
statements.  It doesn't do anything else, ever.

Print jobs get sent from a Unix image server via LPD command over one
network to what we call "intermediate queues" that are actually printer
devices.  We then use PSF/2 to "transform" the print job from the
intermediate queue to the printers that reside on a different network.

Right now the spool paths for all the devices in question are set to
the C: drive.  There isn't enough space on the C: drive for this
function (they get hundreds of jobs a day, many of which are over 7
megs each).  I want the jobs to spool onto the D: and E: drives.

So here are my questions:

1) I found where to change the spool path in system settings.  Will
this change the spool path for ALL the devices (my assumption is yes)?

2) Is there a way to have some devices spool to the E: drive and some
spool to the D: drive?

3) The instructions on the system say to make sure all the printer
devices are empty before changing the spool path.  What would happen if
there were some print jobs in one of the "intermediate queue" devices
when I changed the path?


--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          20-Oct-99 17:20:15
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:48:41 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

:>Before I begin, I also want to say that a couple of weeks ago I did
:>a comparison study of all my CONFIG.SYS backups to see what the
:>differences were regarding the Netscape entries.  Unexpectedly, I
:>discovered that the first failure of Netscape 4.04 came immediately
:>after I installed VisualAge COBOL.  I didn't really think about this
:>at the time, but the dates on those CONFIG.SYS backups are, in my
:>opinion, pretty conclusive.  It seems the COBOL install put its
:>directory at the head of the PATH and LIBPATH concatenations and it
:>also put the ".;" at the very beginning of each one.  I remember
:>reading somewhere that the ".:" should not come before the Netscape
:>entries.  I thought that was probably what caused the problem, but
:>the first re-install I did seemed to correct that problem in the
:>CONFIG.SYS.

You read right. Here is a sample from my config.sys.
The REM line was placed there by NS 2.02.

REM Do not insert a current directory path (".") entry before the
NETSCAPE\JAVA11
entry.
LIBPATH=E:\NETSCAPE\JAVA11;E:\NETSCAPE;C:\JAVA11\DLL;E:\COMM4\PROGRAM;.;E:\LOT
USW4\COMPNENT;E:\LOTUSW4\ORGANIZE;E:\LOTUSW4\APPROACH;E:\LOTUSW4\123;C:\OS2\DL
L;C:\IBMI18N\DLL;C:\MPTN\DLL;C:\IBMCOM\DLL;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\;C:\OS2\APPS\DLL;C:\
MMOS2\DLL;C:\IBMINST;c:\tcpip\dll;E:\OBJDESK;E:\OBJDESK\VIEWERS;E:\BACKMAST;C:
\EMX\DLL;E:\HOMEPAGE;E:\Office51;E:\LOTUSW4\FLG;E:\LOTUSW4\WORDPRO;E:\EMBELLIS
H;

All new entries really should be placed at the end of the
config.sys so as not to screw up Java in Netscape.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             18-Oct-99 19:57:20
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:40:30 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

>In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
>mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not
>but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.
>Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)

Umm, a serial mouse uses an IRQ _and_ a com port as well, whereas
neither one is required by MY PS/2 mouse, anyway.


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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          20-Oct-99 23:30:21
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

When I installed the new NS 4.61 I deinstalled 4.04 first.
It left my user directories intact but 4.61 wanted to set
up a new account when I installed it. I just gave it my old
name and it found my information and has been more 
stable than 4.04 ever was.

It still sometimes crashes when downloading files so I
use 2.02 for that. I hope that's fixed soon.

Cheers

Wayne


On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:20:37 +0100, andy wrote:

:>
:>
:>Dale Erwin schrieb:
:>
:>> I installed NC4.61 and got the exact same results from it that I got
:>> with 4.04.  The only one that works is 2.02
:>> --
:>> Dale Erwin
:>> Dallas, Texas
:>
:>Have you tried to deinstall and install netscape (to be sure that there were 
no
:>wrong entries?). Else try to create a  different user with the
profile-manager.
:>
:>Greetings and good luck
:>                Andreas
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               20-Oct-99 00:35:02
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Lost REXX

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

"Graham C. Norris" wrote:

>
> Now, this is Rexx, so where did the first lot come from? Copied in from
> somewhere else perhaps? The result of installing something, or things?
>

You're probably on to something there. I have learned from experience never
to use REXX in startup.cmd because install jobs often add commands at the
beginning of it. Call or start the file with the REXX program from it
instead.

Mine is like this:
NET START SERVER
@IF ERRORLEVEL 2 C:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\LSERR.EXE
START D:\COMM\CHANGI\NNTPD.CMD
IF EXIST G:\OS2\SYSTEM\SWAPPER.DAT DEL G:\OS2\SYSTEM\SWAPPER.DAT
CALL REXXINIT.CMD
EXIT

The first two lines are automatically written there if I reinstall, so it
looked like a good idea to move the REXX stuff into a separate file.

I also automatically delete the default swapfile just in case I have booted
with some odd config.sys, as I do not want it to take up space on my little
old system disk.


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               20-Oct-99 00:16:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Alex Taylor wrote:

>
> There are only so many "common" free IRQs in a machine, and 12 is one of
> them.  More computer add-ons require IRQs than serial ports, is the rest of
> my point.
>

If you use a com port for your pointing device, it will take up either IRQ 3
or 4.
If you use the mouse port, it will take up IRQ 12. Either way, you will use
exactly the same number of IRQs (i.e. one) for the mouse, and 12 is hardly
"more
valuable" than 3 or 4. If anything, I have seen more network adapters, sound
cards
and suchlike which could be set to IRQ 3 or 4 than 12.

In any case, the mouse port is not really different from a serial port, it
just
uses a different device driver. Some day, I'll try to set up the system with a
serial mouse and define the mouse port as COM3, to see if I can look at the
data
from the IBM mouse in a terminal program.



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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               20-Oct-99 00:42:18
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: MWave was Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Doug Bissett wrote:

> So, to answer your question: I was refering to what was possible
> (within specs, or not), with the existing (not modified) cards, when
> they FIRST came out. I have not heard of any MWave card that will run
> at 56K modem speeds, but they may exist.

They could be used as 128kb/s ISDN adapters, so it must have been the
(semi)firmware which limited the modem speed.


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From: fritzo@humboldt.net                               19-Oct-99 21:27:29
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: fritzo@humboldt.net(Fritz Oppliger)

> I downloaded Communicator
>some time ago.  I did not download the 128-bit encryption version,
>though.
>Do you think maybe for some reason the program thinks I am located
>outside the US?

The prompts are a bit murky there. You have to opt for Canadian English or
Canadian French. THe other choices are international, thus evidently
restricted.

They did change that law btw, the issue should be moot now.
 

fritzo@humboldt.net(Fritz Oppliger) KE6VDA

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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               20-Oct-99 15:40:07
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Additional VDM after FP12?

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

>>> For a data point, I run a Matrox (latest Matrox drivers), and if I 
>>> understood your previous posting on 3xBox == kernal thread, kernal == 
>>> 3xBox (VDM).  I have no hidden VDMs running w/FP12.
 
>> Are you SCSI only? I think Scotts post should be read SCSI only (or at
>> least no IDE-drivers) and non-GRADD means you can be without them.
 
> Yes. SCSI only.
 
Think that means you should be without hidden VDM's as I understood
Scott's posts as those being IDE-related only. But perhaps I read it wrong?


Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk                     20-Oct-99 15:58:05
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Purpose of LIBAUX.DLL and LIBTK.DLL?

From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)

I think they're used by OpenGL.  I'm surprised that the fixpak
contains updates for them.


Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail address>-


On 11 Oct 1999 16:10:57 GMT, domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)
wrote:

>I just applied FP42 on one of my Warp3 boxes today. There were 2 DLL 
>files already on my system that FP42 offered to replace with older 
>versions: LIBAUX.DLL and LIBTK.DLL. These files were much older 
>(5-Sep-97 vs. 30-Mar-99) and they also differed significantly in size:
>
>Before applying FP42:
>30.03.99  18.50      47104           0  LIBAUX.DLL
>30.03.99  18.50     147002           0  LIBTK.DLL
>
>Included in FP42:
> 5.09.97  11.30     113848           0  LIBAUX.DLL
> 5.09.97  11.30    1101576           0  LIBTK.DLL
>
>What is the purpose of these DLL's and which version should I be 
>using?
>
>Thanks, Dominique

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          20-Oct-99 15:42:03
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <2TsNOM=2sTGDnvQbMuo3yLDa3SEn@news.kraftwerk.net>
	   Remove "Martin Nisshagen" writes:

> Andrew Stephenson [DNS] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
> » I wonder if you have the faintest idea what you are criticising?
>
> Something who, at least to me, looked like a clear spam of site ad.

What is your definition of 'spam'?  I was taught that it had to
be spread across many NGs in a reckless and inconsiderate manner.
Here, I see one NG being addressed; if others are being addressed
by separate postings, I'd be surprised; if there were enough such
postings to amount to 'spam' according to a rational standard, I
would be astonished, in view of what I know about IACT.

As someone who so regularly acts on this NG as an apologist for
Micros~1, and posts a ton of remarks saying how good their stuff
is, your sudden sensitivity and outrage are strange, IMHO.

IACT are a non-profit organisation, of the sort likely to give
greedy monopolists and standards-breakers a headache.  In this
case, live dangerously and go take a look.  Okay, it may not suit
your tastes.  But truly, they do not fit your idea of spammers.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               20-Oct-99 09:37:01
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:11:09 GMT, Stan Goodman wrote:

>If you have more problems with your OS/2 installation than the rest of us, 
>does that say something about your installation? Or does it mean that OS/2 
>is at fault?

Please, Stan.   Dale has been a big OS/2 fan for close to 10 years.   I hope
you noticed that he bought his system from IB with OS/2 pre-installed.   

His complains are quite valid.   Netscape is not exacly what I would call
showcase OS/2 application.    There are 2 basic issues he's facing.    The
domain not found thing is a TCP/IP issue.   The instability issue finally
gets addressed with 4.61 (beta).    So, back off with your "advocacy"
comments.


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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             20-Oct-99 09:32:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: SB Live and OS/2

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


meson2000 wrote:
> 
> As I wrote before I am switching back to OS/2
> and I have a Sound Blaster Live.
> I know that there is no driver for this sound card yet.
> Can I use the regular SB16 driver in OS/2 and get some
> sound out of my SBLive???

Don't think so.  Get an Aureal 8820-based Vortex 1 sound card as your
default OS/2 sound card.  Keep the SB Live for Win-OS2.  Use the Vortex
1 for Win9x (if you have that).

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                20-Oct-99 13:11:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Help!  Can't create Utility Diskettes

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

tabrown@no.ibm.spam.net (Tom Brown) said:

>Take a look at the diskette that was being created when the process  stopped.
>You will find that there are a number of unnecessary files  present on that
>diskette.

Thanks

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                20-Oct-99 15:02:14
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> said:
>Have you verified that when you are surfing around, files
>are being saved in your cache directory?

Yes, the cache directory "fills up" and the problem remains.

However, whatever it was has fixed itself.  I have done nothing to it for 3 or 
2
days, but suddenly about noon today the re-downloading of web pages stopped. 
I
also checked on the restarting of discontinued downloads.  It is working again
too.

Go figure.  I have no idea.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     20-Oct-99 19:03:07
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Questions about Print Spool path change

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:25:11, Siobhan Perricone 
<morgannalefey@my-deja.com> wrote:

..snip the details...
> So here are my questions:
> 
> 1) I found where to change the spool path in system settings.  Will
> this change the spool path for ALL the devices (my assumption is yes)?

Yes.
 
> 2) Is there a way to have some devices spool to the E: drive and some
> spool to the D: drive?

No. What you could do, is repartition the machine, to combine the D: 
and E: drives, which would give you more room. If the combined size is
more than 2 gig, you would need to format it as HPFS, which is far 
more efficient anyway. (You will lose anything that is on those 
drives, if you combine, and format, them, so take the appropriate 
steps to keep anything that is useful, and do that BEFORE you move the
spool). There are, probably, other ways (like using the TVFS package, 
but I would not recommend that, in your case).
 
> 3) The instructions on the system say to make sure all the printer
> devices are empty before changing the spool path.  What would happen if
> there were some print jobs in one of the "intermediate queue" devices
> when I changed the path?

Not sure, but if the spool is empty, and the intermediate queues are 
not allowed to send to the OS/2 machine, while the change is made, 
there should not be a problem. On the other hand, it might be a good 
idea to drain the whole print queue, from one end to the other, just 
to make sure (I am *almost* positive that this is not required, and 
would not bother, on my own personal machine. Your situation is a 
little different, and I might be a little more cautious).

> 
> --
> Siobhan Perricone
> PC Technician
> Alltel Information Services
> (I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)
> 
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
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From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell...               20-Oct-99 19:25:02
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net

From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)

In article <7uk17u$m61$2@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>,
	"Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net> writes:
> 
> Richard Steiner <rsteiner@visi.com> wrote in message
> news:rWUD4oHpvaOB092yn@visi.com...
>>
>> I believe that Linux and other open-source operating systems have the
>> potential to fundamentally change the manner in which common desktop
>> and server operating systems are distributed, updated, and marketed.
> 
> If you enjoy working with Linux I'm not going to argue with that.

Richard's point isn't dependant upon whether or not you like Linux; it's
more of a meta-comment about the impact Linux may have upon the industry.

> The
> original post asked for opinions & *my* opinion is that NT is better.
> If you enjoy Linux does it honestly matter if I don't?
> This is the point I am trying to make.  I simply don't understand some
> people who get upset when you tell them you place a MS OS in higher regard
> than Linux.
> It is simply opinion & personal choice, we are all different.

All very true, but your original reply on this query was (in part):

> Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left foot

That's not a very diplomatic way of saying you don't like something, nor
does it present anything specific to back up the claim.  It's not even
clear if you're talking about Linux's underlying code base or entirely
surface characteristics like the desktop environment.  This combination of
vagueness and an insult launched at a product is guaranteed to provoke a
response, particularly since some possible interpretations of the comment
also suggest lack of knowledge (e.g., if you're referring to a Linux GUI
environment, the fact that there are literally dozens of such environments
available suggests you were unfamiliar with that basic fact).  If you want
to avoid being accused of posting trolls, try posting less vague claims
phrased in a less insulting manner.  That said, I certainly do agree that
highly emotional invective based on a one-line comment is also not in
order.

-- 
Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: wellmet@attglobal.net                             20-Oct-99 17:44:25
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: WANTED:  Word Perfect for OS/2

From: wellmet@attglobal.net  (Joe Kovacs)

<Moved in from comp.os.os2.marketplace>

In <7ukmlo$2dc$2@news.inet.tele.dk>, dropThis.DenverD@ibm.net (DenverD )
writes:

>there is such a thing..
>it sucks..
>does not run nearly as well as WP5.2 for Windows, in a seamless win3.1
>session..
>
>--
>DenverD AT ibm DOT net
>
>CAUTION: All addresses are anti-spam spoofs.
>you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!

There have been problems with this poster in 
comp.os.os2.marketplace before.  Confirm for yourself what he
is and add him to your list or, at least, filter it out.

WordPerfect/2 v5.2 has worked very well here with Warp v3. 
It's a top quality word processor. The interface could be
switched to, or used as, either the classic WordPerfect
keyboard interface or the Presentation Manager specification,
so that the two were integrated, a very nice feature.  I saw 
no bugs with that usage.

The WP/2 setup with Warp 3 has been broken with the 
installation of Warp 4 here. I have to find out what's wrong
and, hopefully, correct it.  If it can't be corrected that,
along with a couple of similar things, may be grounds for 
going back to Warp 3. 


Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      20-Oct-99 21:26:01
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Andrew Stephenson [DNS] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ What is your definition of 'spam'?  I was taught that it had to

Long advertisement with only purpose to get visitors to their site. 

¯ As someone who so regularly acts on this NG as an apologist for

The very typical and usual Team OS/2 intelligence service to check for
political correctness and proper anti-Microsoft view by all who should be
allowed to use OS/2 and post in this group?

Sorry, but I don't care if it's political incorrect to also like and use
products from other vendors than IBM (be it NT/W2K from Microsoft, Solaris
from Sun or FreeBSD from the open source community, as in my own case).

¯ Micros~1, and posts a ton of remarks saying how good their stuff

Check your facts. I never start any such threads. I only comment (and usually
only from a non-advocacy and technical standpoint) when an issue who I don't
agree with _already_ has been brought up by another poster.

¯ is, your sudden sensitivity and outrage are strange, IMHO.

Sorry, but I think your "outrage" and "attack" against me as a biased
Microsoft "apologist" says way more about you and your sensitive closed mind
than anything else. 

Tip: Mr Stephenson, If you want to read only pro IBM and pro OS/2 comments I
strongly suggest you go to the OS/2 advocacy group (and filter out everyone
who doesn't have the Team OS/2 .sig or who happens to share your exact same
view of the world).
 
Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: karl.koller@ibm.net                               20-Oct-99 20:47:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Doubleclick with Scrollmouse

From: karl.koller@ibm.net (Karl Koller)

I changed to a M$ Scrollmouse (got it for free) and it works nice with the
IBM-Driver. There is only one feature I am missing:
I used to have the Doubleclick on the third button of my old mouse and 
really loved it. Now there is a third button under the wheel of the new 
mouse, but there is no way to configure it.
Does anyone know as Software to solve the problem without loosing the 
scrolling feature!

Karl

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             20-Oct-99 16:15:10
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Additional VDM after FP12?

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On 20 Oct 1999 15:40:14 GMT, M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn wrote:

>Think that means you should be without hidden VDM's as I understood
>Scott's posts as those being IDE-related only. But perhaps I read it wrong?
There's a VDM thread created by ibm1s506 and one by (at least some) GRADD
drivers. I won't swear that no other DASD driver creates a minivdm thread to
do int13 stuff.


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From: David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net                      20-Oct-99 16:49:06
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>

Richard Steiner wrote:

>
>
> You must mean installing it in a Dual-boot configuration?
>
> --
>    -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>      OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
>       + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
>            What? Monday again! Didn't we have that last week?

Yes, you're right. I should have elaborated. I did mean a dual-boot
configuration.

It seems you'd be the guy to ask about OS questions, judging by your
tagline! Wow.

Dave

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From: vezero@uscom.com                                  20-Oct-99 18:10:27
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: How Much?

From: john b <vezero@uscom.com>

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Why not tell us how much you want?
john b

Daniel Tulloch wrote:

>
>
>  Server95@E-bay
> IBM PS/2 Server 95 Model 9595-1NG
> 486DX2-66 Intel Processor
> 95A Planar which has 2 Serial/2 Parallel onboard
> IBM SVGA Adapter /A
> 400W Power Supply
> 2.88MB FDD
> Adaptec AHA-1640 SCSI Adapter
> IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
> BusLogic BT-640A 32-bit SCSI-2 Adapter
> 48MB ECC RAM
> IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
> 3Com Etherlink/MC TP NIC
> IBM DSAS-3540 540MB SCSI-2 HDD
> IBM WDS3200 212MB SCSI-2 HDD
> Fujitsu M2624FA 520MB SCSI-2 HDD
>
> Box only, No monitor, keyboard, or mouse.
> Everything works excellent.
> Low-level format and data integrity tests were performed on all DASD.
> PC-DOS 7.0 installed.
> PS/2 Server95 compatible with DOS, OS/2, Linux, Windows(3.X, 9X, NT)
>
> Info@IBM:  Server95
> Questions can be sent to:  tulloch@modempool.com
>
> Other  Server95's@Ebay

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Why not tell us how much you want?
<br>john b
<p>Daniel Tulloch wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<p>&nbsp;<a
href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=183263493">Server9
5@E-bay</a>
<br>IBM PS/2 Server 95 Model 9595-1NG
<br>486DX2-66 Intel Processor
<br>95A Planar which has 2 Serial/2 Parallel onboard
<br>IBM SVGA Adapter /A
<br>400W Power Supply
<br>2.88MB FDD
<br>Adaptec AHA-1640 SCSI Adapter
<br>IBM 32-bit F/W SCSI-2 Adapter
<br>BusLogic BT-640A 32-bit SCSI-2 Adapter
<br>48MB ECC RAM
<br>IBM 16/4 Token Ring Network Adapter /A
<br>3Com Etherlink/MC TP NIC
<br>IBM DSAS-3540 540MB SCSI-2 HDD
<br>IBM WDS3200 212MB SCSI-2 HDD
<br>Fujitsu M2624FA 520MB SCSI-2 HDD
<p>Box only, No monitor, keyboard, or mouse.
<br>Everything works excellent.
<br>Low-level format and data integrity tests were performed on all DASD.
PC-DOS 7.0 installed.
<br>PS/2 Server95 compatible with DOS, OS/2, Linux, Windows(3.X, 9X, NT)
<p>Info@IBM:&nbsp; <a
href="http://www.can.ibm.com/helpware/9595.html">Server95</a>
<br>Questions can be sent to:&nbsp; <a
href="mailto:tulloch@modempool.com">tulloch@modempool.com</a>
<p>Other&nbsp; <a
href="http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=tulloch"
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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          20-Oct-99 22:06:02
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Rod Smith <rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:kGoP3.10$mq6.1539@typhoon2.gnilink.net...
> In article <7uk17u$m61$2@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>,
> "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net> writes:
> >
> > Richard Steiner <rsteiner@visi.com> wrote in message
> > news:rWUD4oHpvaOB092yn@visi.com...
> >>
> >> I believe that Linux and other open-source operating systems have the
> >> potential to fundamentally change the manner in which common desktop
> >> and server operating systems are distributed, updated, and marketed.
> >
> > If you enjoy working with Linux I'm not going to argue with that.
>
> Richard's point isn't dependant upon whether or not you like Linux; it's
> more of a meta-comment about the impact Linux may have upon the industry.
>
> > The
> > original post asked for opinions & *my* opinion is that NT is better.
> > If you enjoy Linux does it honestly matter if I don't?
> > This is the point I am trying to make.  I simply don't understand some
> > people who get upset when you tell them you place a MS OS in higher
regard
> > than Linux.
> > It is simply opinion & personal choice, we are all different.
>
> All very true, but your original reply on this query was (in part):
>
> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left
foot
>
> That's not a very diplomatic way of saying you don't like something, nor
> does it present anything specific to back up the claim.  It's not even
> clear if you're talking about Linux's underlying code base or entirely
> surface characteristics like the desktop environment.  This combination of
> vagueness and an insult launched at a product is guaranteed to provoke a
> response, particularly since some possible interpretations of the comment
> also suggest lack of knowledge (e.g., if you're referring to a Linux GUI
> environment, the fact that there are literally dozens of such environments
> available suggests you were unfamiliar with that basic fact).  If you want

> to avoid being accused of posting trolls, try posting less vague claims
> phrased in a less insulting manner.  That said, I certainly do agree that
> highly emotional invective based on a one-line comment is also not in
> order.


This comment was tongue in cheek & I find it amazing that people can be
offended by it.
Yes I know about the numerous GUI's, I've tried lots of them & dislike them
all.
Once again, it is just an operating system, not worth losing sleep over when
someone doesn't like it.


--
Richard Dakin

+++ No email please +++



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From: tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com                          20-Oct-99 18:22:28
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:25
Subj: Re: OkiPage Printers

From: Timothy Sipples <tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com>

heloman@my-deja.com wrote:
> I may be looking for another printer and am considering the
> Okipage 10e or 10ex. I checked their (Oki) webpage and of course
> NO OS/2 drivers. On the OS/2 device driver webpage it states the
> Omni driver will support the 6e/6ex. Therefore, has/is anyone
> using the Okipage printers and secondly, will the driver for the
> 6e/6ex work with the 10e/10ex printer? A local vendor rep stated
> that it would support HP laserjet 4/5 emulation. Didn't see this
> on their webpage so cannot confirm/deny. I await any response to
> these questions. Thanks in advance.....

You should be just fine.  The 10e/ex are basically just faster versions of
the 6e/6ex.

The "ex" models are a bit nicer, with real front panels.

-- 
Timothy Sipples
IBM Network Computing Software
Chicago, Illinois
Web: http://www.satdirect.com/aviation

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From: nospam@nowhere.com                                20-Oct-99 22:14:28
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:25
Subj: Re: WANTED:  Word Perfect for OS/2

From: nospam@nowhere.com  (Steve Myers)

IMO, the first release was bad.  Really bad.  The WP 5.2a release was much
better.

I did my initial install under OS/2 V2, and copied files to V3 and V4,
and ran their special object setup.  Except for the well known problems
with more than 256 colors, it runs pretty well.  Not great, but pretty
well.

-- Steve Myers

The E-mail addresses in this message are private property.  Any use of them
to  send  unsolicited  E-mail  messages  of  a  commerical  nature  will be
considered trespassing,  and the originator of the message will be  sued in
small claims court in Camden County,  New Jersey,  for the  maximum penalty
allowed by law.

In <c1.2b8.2ScNPH$0Jj@cast.grid.ibm.net>, wellmet@attglobal.net  (Joe Kovacs)
writes:
>
><Moved in from comp.os.os2.marketplace>
>
>In <7ukmlo$2dc$2@news.inet.tele.dk>, dropThis.DenverD@ibm.net (DenverD )
writes:
>
>>there is such a thing..
>>it sucks..
>>does not run nearly as well as WP5.2 for Windows, in a seamless win3.1
>>session..
>>
>>--
>>DenverD AT ibm DOT net
>>
>>CAUTION: All addresses are anti-spam spoofs.
>>you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!
>
>There have been problems with this poster in 
>comp.os.os2.marketplace before.  Confirm for yourself what he
>is and add him to your list or, at least, filter it out.
>
>WordPerfect/2 v5.2 has worked very well here with Warp v3. 
>It's a top quality word processor. The interface could be
>switched to, or used as, either the classic WordPerfect
>keyboard interface or the Presentation Manager specification,
>so that the two were integrated, a very nice feature.  I saw 
>no bugs with that usage.
>
>The WP/2 setup with Warp 3 has been broken with the 
>installation of Warp 4 here. I have to find out what's wrong
>and, hopefully, correct it.  If it can't be corrected that,
>along with a couple of similar things, may be grounds for 
>going back to Warp 3. 
>
>
>Joe Kovacs
>Guelph Ontario Canada
>
>

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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               21-Oct-99 01:27:18
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:25
Subj: Re: Netscape/os2 smart download????

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Lorne Sunley wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:05:43, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Pardon me?  What is <animal.net>, and what does it have to do with it?
>
> I think it's a case of dyslexic fingers trying to type airmail.net

No, actually it was a case of using Helvetica at a too small size for my
eyesight. The letters seem to grow together.

OTOH, my new keyboard seems to be dis-spacetic. I will have to complain one of
these days.


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From: tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com                          20-Oct-99 18:09:21
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:25
Subj: Re: How much Performance improvement with JFS?

From: Timothy Sipples <tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com>

James Moe wrote:
>     The only advantage HPFS386 has over JFS that I have seen is its
> ability to limit users' disk usage. Odd that that is not one of JFS's
> attributes.

The plan is to add user disk limits to JFS (probably in the first fixpack).

-- 
Timothy Sipples
IBM Network Computing Software
Chicago, Illinois
Web: http://www.satdirect.com/aviation

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From: prytula@netspace.net.au                           21-Oct-99 11:35:13
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:01
Subj: Winos2 and w32s125.zip

From: prytula@netspace.net.au

Can anyone help with w32s125.zip? Is this to enable Win95 programs to be
run in Winos2? I assumed this was the purpose but maybe I am wrong :( I
tried but get an error message:- "Win32s error: invalid format." The
readme of 1995 from IBM says to expect this but I had hoped that this was
superceded by w32s125.zip.

Secondly, warp32s.zip, also on Hobbes, is dated later than w32s125.zip.
The details say it is for Warp 3+ Does this mean Warp 3 + Fixpaks, or does
it mean Warp 3 + Warp 4? Any help would be *very* welcome :)
Richard


Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
(prytula@netspace.net.au)

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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               21-Oct-99 01:06:25
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Dale Erwin wrote:

>
> Before I begin, I also want to say that a couple of weeks ago I did
> a comparison study of all my CONFIG.SYS backups to see what the
> differences were regarding the Netscape entries.  Unexpectedly, I
> discovered that the first failure of Netscape 4.04 came immediately
> after I installed VisualAge COBOL.  I didn't really think about this
> at the time, but the dates on those CONFIG.SYS backups are, in my
> opinion, pretty conclusive.  It seems the COBOL install put its
> directory at the head of the PATH and LIBPATH concatenations and it
> also put the ".;" at the very beginning of each one.

You may well have a culprit there! I remember I had major problems with system
instability after I installed one of the early versions of VA COBOL. As I
fixed the
problem, I do not know if this is stillan issue. The COBOL install added a LOT 
to
the libpath, and I discovered that it actually got truncated. After I moved a
lot
of stuff (my libpath is very, very long) to BEGINLIBPATHand ENDLIBPATH, I got
things fixed. There is alsothe NS / Java issue, but I donotthink that is
important
unless you still have an old Java version somewhere. NC 4.61 works fine -
except
for the problems with the Mozilla engine on any platform - with Java 1.1.8,
and the
old JAVAOS2 directory is no longer needed and had better be removed.



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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          21-Oct-99 00:12:08
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <0hIOOP6ZPYTep4rUU=GC+UmkiWiG@news.kraftwerk.net>
	Remove "Martin Nisshagen" writes a number of comments
	which hint that we are unlikely ever to agree...

Martin, these kinds of debates rapidly lose their charm for all
except those involved -- and I suspect that even we have already
grown bored with it.

In the four and more years I have taken an interest in this NG,
the impression I have formed (which you are welcome to dispute,
of course) is that you are far fonder of Winsoft products than a
reasonably well informed person usually is.  And you frequently
speak out on their behalf, generally with only a slight excuse,
intruding those opinions in a forum where they are OT.

But the point at issue is that I believe I have demonstrated you
were both wrong and boorish in how you attacked IACT for posting
notice of a computing resource.  You damn IACT for spamming, yet
you apparently will not bother to check the truth of what I have
told you.  Then _you_ accuse _me_ of witch-hunting?

Well, I've said my piece on this.  Anyone who _does_ feel that a
respect for standards and inter-operability are essential to the
future health of computing is invited take a look at IACT's site.
(For URL, see their original posting.)
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      21-Oct-99 03:53:15
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Andrew Stephenson [DNS] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ Martin, these kinds of debates rapidly lose their charm for all
¯ except those involved -- and I suspect that even we have already
¯ grown bored with it.

Which is hardly my fault. I din't start the personal character discussion. 

You did, Mr Andrew Stephenson. No one else.
 
¯ In the four and more years I have taken an interest in this NG,
¯ the impression I have formed (which you are welcome to dispute,
¯ of course) is that you are far fonder of Winsoft products than a
¯ reasonably well informed person usually is.  And you frequently

Which is clearly wrong - which you should know if it's true that you really
have read this group and my comments before (or you are on denial mode and
have a short memory).

It really depends on which "winsoft" products you discuss.

I like NT and IE and thinks they are some good products, that happens to come
from Microsoft (not because they come from them).

I hate WinDOS 3, WinDos 9x (and would even if they didn't come from MS).

I also hate MS-DOS and not very found of a lot of their other software.

¯ But the point at issue is that I believe I have demonstrated you

You have only demonstrated typical "he likes one MS product - lets attack him
because of that" typical Team OS/2 arrogance and behavior. Nothing else.

Sorry, that you don't have the same clear definition on spam that I have.

I however respect your view of that.

I also like standards, and would also think that posting a W3C HTML standards
spec in comp.os groups would be just as wrong.

When you send long ad for a site to a group who's character isn't in
compliance it's spam in my not so humble pinion.

Also don't think for one minute that IBM always is so great at following all
official standards, and that Microsoft doesn't (neither is true, and both OS/2
and NT has a lot to learn from UNIX in that regard).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell...               21-Oct-99 03:48:07
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net

From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)

In article <7ulban$83t$2@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>,
	"Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net> writes:
> 
> Rod Smith <rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
> news:kGoP3.10$mq6.1539@typhoon2.gnilink.net...
>> In article <7uk17u$m61$2@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>,
>> "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net> writes:
>>
>> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left
> foot
>>
>> to avoid being accused of posting trolls, try posting less vague claims
>> phrased in a less insulting manner.  That said, I certainly do agree that
>> highly emotional invective based on a one-line comment is also not in
>> order.
> 
> This comment was tongue in cheek & I find it amazing that people can be
> offended by it.

YOU certainly knew what was in your mind when you posted, but your
readers aren't psychic.  There are plenty of foaming-at-the-mouth types
on any side in any OS comparison, and a tongue-in-cheek posting like your
original message (or that one line of it, anyhow) is easily
misinterpreted as coming from such a person, which of course provokes
responses, both from those who aren't really foaming at the mouth but who
want to head off false claims by those who are and by people on the other
side who do possess foam about their mouths.  It didn't help any that your
tongue-in-cheek line was the ONLY thing you said about Linux.

> Yes I know about the numerous GUI's, I've tried lots of them & dislike them
> all.

Which wasn't clear in your original post, which could easily be interpreted
in other ways.

I don't mean any of these comments to be taken in a controntational or
finger-pointing sort of way; I'm just trying to point out that brief and
unclear comments can easily be misinterpreted, particularly in a medium
like Usenet news, which is both subject to flamewars and devoid of the
usual visual and verbal cues we use to interpret intent.

-- 
Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell...               21-Oct-99 03:57:23
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: WANTED:  Word Perfect for OS/2

Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net

From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)

In article <B9rP3.736$zX5.31619@news3.voicenet.com>,
	nospam@nowhere.com  (Steve Myers) writes:
> IMO, the first release was bad.  Really bad.  The WP 5.2a release was much
> better.

Agreed.  I'd go further, though, and say that the original 5.2 release was
*SO* bad that the 5.2a release was merely awful, rather than supremely
awful.  5.2a would routinely crash on me, often taking OS/2 with it.  At
the time, OS/2 newsgroups were rife with reports of WP's instability. 
More recently, there seem to be proportionally more people reporting WP
5.2a was reasonably stable, but I'm not among them.  I ended up getting
DeScribe, which was wonderful.  I wrote my dissertation with DeScribe, and
the thought of doing so with WP 5.2a for OS/2 fills me with horror.

FWIW, WP has this odd tendency to be either very good or very bad,
depending upon the release and platform.  My first experience was with WP
4.1 (?) for Atari ST, which was even worse (in its initial releases) than
WP 5.2 for OS/2.  WP 4.x and 5.x for DOS and Windows were reasonably good,
as have been WP 2.0 for Mac and WP 8.0 for Linux.

-- 
Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           21-Oct-99 04:19:21
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: Winos2 and w32s125.zip

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:35:26, prytula@netspace.net.au wrote:

> Can anyone help with w32s125.zip? Is this to enable Win95 programs to be
> run in Winos2? I assumed this was the purpose but maybe I am wrong :( I
> tried but get an error message:- "Win32s error: invalid format." The
> readme of 1995 from IBM says to expect this but I had hoped that this was
> superceded by w32s125.zip.
> 
> Secondly, warp32s.zip, also on Hobbes, is dated later than w32s125.zip.
> The details say it is for Warp 3+ Does this mean Warp 3 + Fixpaks, or does
> it mean Warp 3 + Warp 4? Any help would be *very* welcome :)
> Richard
> 

The w32s125.zip is the 1.25 version of the WIN32S API implementation.
It allows a subset of WIN32S applications to run on Warp 3 or Warp 4.

The warp32s.zip file contains files that update Warp 3 to allow
the use of the w32s125.zip file. The updates in the warp32s.zip
file are already contained in Warp 4.

NOTE - the latest (last) version of WIN32S was version 1.3. Programs
written to use this API level will NOT run under winos2. The defaults
for the version 1.3 WIN32S provide for memeory allocation
above the 512Mbyte limit that is handled by Warp 3 and Warp 4.

The "invalid format" message indicates that the program is
a native WIN95/98 executable file. These files are in
"PE" format rather than "LX" format (the one used by
Win 3.1 and readable by OS/2). The "PE" format executable
files cannot be loaded by OS/2.

There is a "PE2LX" converter available (Alpha code). This is
the "Project Odin" code formerly known as WIN32-OS2.

URL http://www.netlabs.org/odin

This project allows you to either convert and run or 
"convert on load" PE executable files in OS/2.

Lorne Sunley

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 20-Oct-99 22:51:22
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>It seems you'd be the guy to ask about OS questions, judging by your
>tagline! Wow.

For general things, perhaps, but I'm far from "expert" in any of them,
and only consider myself an "experienced user" in a few (OS/2, DOS, and
Win95, and perhaps also one or two flavors of Linux).

OSes are just complicated games, anyway...right?  :-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                 No reason for it; it's just my policy.

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 20-Oct-99 22:44:24
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>If you enjoy working with Linux I'm not going to argue with that.  The
>original post asked for opinions & *my* opinion is that NT is better.

Yes, and yours is certainly a valid opinion.  Different people will
often have different priorities and criteria for judging an OS, and
even my own opinions can vary tremendously depending on context.

Anyway, I just jumped into this thread from the peanut gallery to make
the general observation that Linux might represent a lot more to some
folks than "just another alternative OS".  It represents a methodology
and a software culture as well.

>If you enjoy Linux does it honestly matter if I don't?

Not at all.  :-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                    Flee at once, all is discovered.

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 20-Oct-99 22:39:15
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)
spake unto us, saying:

>What is your definition of 'spam'?  I was taught that it had to
>be spread across many NGs in a reckless and inconsiderate manner.
>Here, I see one NG being addressed; if others are being addressed
>by separate postings, I'd be surprised; if there were enough such
>postings to amount to 'spam' according to a rational standard, I
>would be astonished, in view of what I know about IACT.

FWIW, I saw that same message posted verbatim in at least one other
newsgroup (a BeOS newsgroup), so postings to multiple groups *were*
apparently done.  How many, I don't know.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
              I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 20-Oct-99 22:40:26
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>
spake unto us, saying:

>The very typical and usual Team OS/2 intelligence service to check for
>political correctness and proper anti-Microsoft view by all who should be
>allowed to use OS/2 and post in this group?

Does Team OS/2 even exist anymore?  I don't think it does...?

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           I'm wearing boxer shorts & I know how to use them!

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                21-Oct-99 00:19:26
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Floppy problems

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

It seems that for as long as I can remember I have had trouble using 3.5"
floppies.  I'm trying to make up some utility disks.  I have gone through a
dozen Maxell 2HD floppies, and either when I try to format them I get "Can't
format track 0", or can't find sector error.

What in the world is this "Can't format track 0" all about?  I keep throwing
floppies away by the handful.  I have tried on two different machines and half 
a
dozen different floppy drives.  I've tried command line formatting in Warp 3
and
the formatting found in the drives object in Warp 4.  I keep getting all this
flack from floppies.

Anybody with any ideas what's going on here?????????????????????  Is Maxell
just
a trashy disk?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: derwin@airmail.net                                20-Oct-99 23:41:24
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Dale Erwin wrote:
> 
> David McKenna wrote:
> >
> > Dale,
> >
> >    Here's how I would start to troubleshoot this problem:
> >
> >  1.  Uninstall Netscape
> >  2.  Reboot
> >  3.  Copy CONFIG.SYS to CONFIG.SAV. Open the CONFIG.SYS file and remove
all
> > references to the path to Netscape from the 'Libpath=...', 'Set Path=...'
and
> > 'Set Dpath=...' lines, if any. While you're in there, look for multiple
> > entries of any paths on each line and make sure you only end up with one
of
> > each path listed on each line - leave the first one found. Be careful not
to
> > lose any semicolons between paths - leave one at the end too.
> > Reboot if you make any changes here.
> >  4. Delete the folder Netscape was installed in (and any other folders
that
> > may contain failed attempts to install).
> 
> How about if I copy them to my SyJet Drive then mount a different
> cartridge, just in case something needs to be restored?
> 
> >    The idea is to remove all traces of any installation of Netscape.
> >
> >  5. Use a tool like WPTOOLS or UNIMAINT to clean out the .INI files to
remove
> > any traces of Netscape(s) from them as well. This is important!
> 
> This may be my downfall and possibly the reason my previous reinstalls
> had no effect.  I didn't have an INI editor, but I have recently
> downloaded and installed INITOOLS from hobbes.
> 
> Am I only concerned with OS2.INI?  What about OS2SYS.INI?  Others?
> I also hope I will be able to recognize all those elements which are
> Netscape-related.  I know there is a Netscape.INI, but it should be
> completely deleted, right?
> 
> >  6. Reboot.
> >
> >    Now you should be Netscape free. It might be wise to test your dialer
and
> > make sure it connects properly - do a 'ping hobbes.nmsu.edu' from a
command
> > line to check (after dialing). Hang up if all is well. If not, then you
have
> > other problems - grist for another thread:-)
> >
> >   7. Install Netscape. I much prefer 4.61 - it seems to be the most stable
> > (on machines I deal with anyway).
> 
> I have it already.
> 
> >  8. Reboot
> >
> >  9. After rebooting, start your dialer, then start Netscape. You will have 
to
> > answer a few questions about your identity, then the browser should open.
At
> > this point, if all goes well, you should be on.
> >
> >    If it doesn't, repost with the results.
> 
> If it doesn't how do I post the results?
> Guess I could use News Reader/2.
> 
> >    I have found the latest Netscape to be very stable - it has never
crashed
> > on me yet (knock wood). Of all the things on my present system, the
flakiest
> > is the Matrox video drivers. Changing to MGA GRADD helps some things in
that
> > regard - not all though. You might consider that if you have a Matrox
video
> > card.
> >
> >   There's no reason this situation can't be cleared up.
> >
> > Dave McKenna
> >
> >
> 
> Before I begin, I also want to say that a couple of weeks ago I did
> a comparison study of all my CONFIG.SYS backups to see what the
> differences were regarding the Netscape entries.  Unexpectedly, I
> discovered that the first failure of Netscape 4.04 came immediately
> after I installed VisualAge COBOL.  I didn't really think about this
> at the time, but the dates on those CONFIG.SYS backups are, in my
> opinion, pretty conclusive.  It seems the COBOL install put its
> directory at the head of the PATH and LIBPATH concatenations and it
> also put the ".;" at the very beginning of each one.  I remember
> reading somewhere that the ".:" should not come before the Netscape
> entries.  I thought that was probably what caused the problem, but
> the first re-install I did seemed to correct that problem in the
> CONFIG.SYS.
> --
> Dale Erwin
> Dallas, Texas
> <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

I followed David's cook-book procedure to the letter.  Unfortunately
the result was the same as always.  I thought sure that INI file
editing was going to be the thing that turned it around, but no such
luck!  The wording of the message is a little different in 4.61:

    Netscape is unable to locate the server home.netscape.com.

    Please check the server name and try again. 

After I receive the FP12 CD that I ordered, I am going to apply FP12
plus
the fixes for MPTS and TCP/IP then repeat the procedure.  I will post
those results at that time.

Is it possible for 4.61 and 2.02 to coexist on the same machine?
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                21-Oct-99 00:30:29
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Bj›rn Vermo wrote:
> 
> Dale Erwin wrote:
> 
> >
> > Before I begin, I also want to say that a couple of weeks ago I did
> > a comparison study of all my CONFIG.SYS backups to see what the
> > differences were regarding the Netscape entries.  Unexpectedly, I
> > discovered that the first failure of Netscape 4.04 came immediately
> > after I installed VisualAge COBOL.  I didn't really think about this
> > at the time, but the dates on those CONFIG.SYS backups are, in my
> > opinion, pretty conclusive.  It seems the COBOL install put its
> > directory at the head of the PATH and LIBPATH concatenations and it
> > also put the ".;" at the very beginning of each one.
> 
> You may well have a culprit there! I remember I had major problems with
system
> instability after I installed one of the early versions of VA COBOL. As I
fixed the
> problem, I do not know if this is stillan issue. The COBOL install added a
LOT to
> the libpath, and I discovered that it actually got truncated. After I moved
a lot
> of stuff (my libpath is very, very long) to BEGINLIBPATHand ENDLIBPATH, I
got
> things fixed. There is alsothe NS / Java issue, but I donotthink that is
important
> unless you still have an old Java version somewhere. NC 4.61 works fine -
except
> for the problems with the Mozilla engine on any platform - with Java 1.1.8,
and the
> old JAVAOS2 directory is no longer needed and had better be removed.

By golly, I wondered if that JAVAOS2 directory really needed to be in
those concatenations.  So the JAVA11 is the only one I need, right?
It IS concatenated in front of the JAVAOS2.  At least it is now, it
wasn't when I first started having this problem.  I don't have the 
VERY latest VA COBOL, but it's not really old either.  It's ver 2.1.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                21-Oct-99 00:24:17
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> It seems that for as long as I can remember I have had trouble using 3.5"
> floppies.  I'm trying to make up some utility disks.  I have gone through a
> dozen Maxell 2HD floppies, and either when I try to format them I get "Can't
> format track 0", or can't find sector error.
> 
> What in the world is this "Can't format track 0" all about?  I keep throwing
> floppies away by the handful.  I have tried on two different machines and
half a
> dozen different floppy drives.  I've tried command line formatting in Warp 3 
and
> the formatting found in the drives object in Warp 4.  I keep getting all
this
> flack from floppies.
> 
> Anybody with any ideas what's going on here?????????????????????  Is Maxell
just
> a trashy disk?
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.

I take it this was ALL done with the same floppy drive??  If so, maybe
the drive itself has a problem.  I find maybe 1 in a 100 are bad, and
I buy the cheapest I can find.  Of course, it has been a long time
since I had the need to buy a floppy diskette.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: nemo@union.edu                                    21-Oct-99 02:26:04
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 05:18:01
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: nemo@union.edu

In <92D1D388B55F30BE.6092082A1271BC49.B4ABC2B4E06FC1DA@lp.airnews.net>, on
10/20/99 
   at 11:41 PM, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:

>I followed David's cook-book procedure to the letter.  Unfortunately the
>result was the same as always.  I thought sure that INI file editing was
>going to be the thing that turned it around, but no such luck!  The
>wording of the message is a little different in 4.61:

>    Netscape is unable to locate the server home.netscape.com.

>    Please check the server name and try again. 

This server seems to be down alot. I posted about this last week. It seems
to be running right now though. But it hasn't been a reliable site in the
past week or so.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: whonea@codenet.net                                21-Oct-99 01:13:20
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 05:18:01
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 03:48:41, Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> wrote:

> Before I begin, I also want to say that a couple of weeks ago I did
> a comparison study of all my CONFIG.SYS backups to see what the
> differences were regarding the Netscape entries.  Unexpectedly, I
> discovered that the first failure of Netscape 4.04 came immediately
> after I installed VisualAge COBOL.  I didn't really think about this
> at the time, but the dates on those CONFIG.SYS backups are, in my
> opinion, pretty conclusive.  It seems the COBOL install put its
> directory at the head of the PATH and LIBPATH concatenations and it
> also put the ".;" at the very beginning of each one.  I remember
> reading somewhere that the ".:" should not come before the Netscape
> entries.  I thought that was probably what caused the problem, but
> the first re-install I did seemed to correct that problem in the
> CONFIG.SYS.

Sounds familiar.  In addition to the LIBPATH and PATH statements, also
check out any line that reference SOM in any of it's flavors.  If you 
find one - especially SOMIR=  where the COBOL path has been prepended 
ahead of the <boot>:\OS2\... entries, move the COBOL references to the
end.  I've been bitten more times than I can count by that littel 
trap.  VisualAge C++ 3 did it and Watcom C++ was really bad.  With 
VAJAVA  I had to move some of the paths in LIBPATH as well.  Long shot
but it's quick and easy.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                21-Oct-99 10:29:12
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 05:18:01
Subj: PMMail 2.1?

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hello all,
I downloaded PMMail 2.1 and don't really see much of an improvement
over my 2.0 version; as a matter of fact, I can't see the differences
at all, other than the complete lack of reference to 2.0 and how
whether 2.1 is a free update to 2.0 or not...  It's not free for 1.9x
users, but I used a registered 2.0 and 2.1 insisted on ignoring that
little detail.  What are people's impressions of 2.1?  Anyone got it
to upgrade their 2.0 installation successfully?  Thanks!

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: ivaes@hr.nl                                       21-Oct-99 10:46:09
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Re: Winos2 and w32s125.zip

From: Illya Vaes <ivaes@hr.nl>

Lorne Sunley wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:35:26, prytula@netspace.net.au wrote:
>>Can anyone help with w32s125.zip? Is this to enable Win95 programs to be
>>run in Winos2? I assumed this was the purpose but maybe I am wrong :( I
>>tried but get an error message:- "Win32s error: invalid format." The
>>readme of 1995 from IBM says to expect this but I had hoped that this was
>>superceded by w32s125.zip.
>The "invalid format" message indicates that the program is
>a native WIN95/98 executable file. These files are in
>"PE" format rather than "LX" format (the one used by
>Win 3.1 and readable by OS/2). The "PE" format executable
>files cannot be loaded by OS/2.

All Win32 by definition have the PE (Portable Executable) format.
The LX (Linear eXecutable) format is the OS/2 native 32bit format.
Win 3.1 programs are NE (New Executable) format.
At least LX and (AFAIK) NE actually start with an MS-DOS header (MZ are the
first two "characters" of any MS-DOS EXE), but continue with the non-MS-DOS
stuff. Non-knowledgable loaders/OSes will run a stub contained in (referenced
from?) the MS-DOS header that says eg. "This program cannot be run under
MS-DOS" or "This program requires Microsoft Windows".

OS/2 only identifies the PE format as "some Windows stuff" and starts
Win-OS/2. If that has Win32s installed, it can identify _and load_ PE
executables, provided they are Win32s and don't _demand_ a win32s 1.30.
 
>There is a "PE2LX" converter available (Alpha code). This is
>the "Project Odin" code formerly known as WIN32-OS2.
>URL http://www.netlabs.org/odin
>This project allows you to either convert and run or
>"convert on load" PE executable files in OS/2.

Some PE executables. Only those that use API calls that can be mapped to OS/2
API calls and which have actually been mapped/implemented too.

-- 
Illya Vaes   (ivaes@hr.nl)        "Do...or do not, there is no 'try'" - Yoda
Holland Railconsult BV, Integral Management of Railprocess Systems
Postbus 2855, 3500 GW Utrecht
Tel +31.30.2653273, Fax 2653385           Not speaking for anyone but myself

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          21-Oct-99 17:06:28
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:30:58 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

:>By golly, I wondered if that JAVAOS2 directory really needed to be in
:>those concatenations.  So the JAVA11 is the only one I need, right?
:>It IS concatenated in front of the JAVAOS2.  At least it is now, it
:>wasn't when I first started having this problem.  I don't have the 
:>VERY latest VA COBOL, but it's not really old either.  It's ver 2.1.

The JAVAOS2 directory and entries were placed there when you
installed Warp. If you have a later version of Java then you can
safely delete the original by opening your boot drive in tree view,
expand the OS/2 directory tree, expand "Install", click on "Installed
features", double click on Java for OS/2, put a check mark in the 
box and click on Uninstall.

While you're there you can do the same thing for ARTCRON, the
registration reminder, if you haven't already :-)

If you already know this then maybe someone else who doesn't
will find it useful :-)

Cheers (almost time to hit the brewskies!)

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          21-Oct-99 17:09:10
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:41:48 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

:>After I receive the FP12 CD that I ordered, I am going to apply FP12
:>plus
:>the fixes for MPTS and TCP/IP then repeat the procedure.  I will post
:>those results at that time.
:>
:>Is it possible for 4.61 and 2.02 to coexist on the same machine?

Most definitely. I sometimes have to use 2.02 because 4.61, like its
predecessor, sometimes barfs on file downloads. The progress
box just disappears. Just like this cold beer is going to.....

Cheers

Wayne

 
******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           21-Oct-99 08:24:12
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

Wayne Bickell (wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp) wrote:

: Most definitely. I sometimes have to use 2.02 because 4.61, like its
: predecessor, sometimes barfs on file downloads. The progress
: box just disappears.

Me too!

Ian

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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr                            21-Oct-99 08:55:03
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Re: Questions about Print Spool path change

From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)

On 20 Oct 1999 19:03:14 GMT, Doug Bissett <doug.bissettattglobal.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:25:11, Siobhan Perricone 
><morgannalefey@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>..snip the details...
>> So here are my questions:
>> 
>> 1) I found where to change the spool path in system settings.  Will
>> this change the spool path for ALL the devices (my assumption is yes)?
>
>Yes.
> 
>> 2) Is there a way to have some devices spool to the E: drive and some
>> spool to the D: drive?

That would be neat to have. Imagine, for a dedicated print server
spooling of every device to a different disk (not just logical drive)
might make a lot of sense.

>No. What you could do, is repartition the machine, to combine the D:
>and E: drives, which would give you more room. If the combined size is
>more than 2 gig, you would need to format it as HPFS, which is far more
>efficient anyway.

All true. Works only if D: and E: are logical drives on the same disk
though. (Or, of course, with LVM on WSeB).

[snip]

>There are, probably, other ways (like using the TVFS package, 
>but I would not recommend that, in your case).

It's an interesting idea though.

 Cheers,
          Stefan


-- 
=========================================================================
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Laboratoire des Collisions Atomiques et   | LCAM :  6915-7699  6915-7671
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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           21-Oct-99 08:25:16
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

OS/2 Fan (fat_ox@hotmail.com) wrote:

: What are people's impressions of 2.1?  Anyone got it
: to upgrade their 2.0 installation successfully?  Thanks!

Worked fine on my machine. They tell me it has fixed some bugs. If so, good.

Ian

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From: maxikins@os2bbs.com                               21-Oct-99 10:26:19
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Re: WANTED:  Word Perfect for OS/2

From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff)

FWIW, I use WP 7.0 for Windoze 3.1  Other than its inability to see 
long file names, I'd have guessed it was a native OS/2 app.  I love 
it.

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From: tkellerer@my-deja.com                             21-Oct-99 11:10:23
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Java compiler talks german

From: Thomas Kellerer <tkellerer@my-deja.com>

Hello,

some time ago (I think it was the update to 1.1.6) my java compiler
started talking german to me (I have a german OS/2). Now I downloaded
the 1.1.8 and I'm sure that I downloaded the english version.
Installation went fine and everything is running. The only thing that
really bothers me: the compiler keeps talking german to me and I hate
the german error messages. Any ideas on how to change that (apart from
not making any errors :-)

Regards
Thomas


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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         21-Oct-99 12:44:11
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:10
Subj: Re: Questions about Print Spool path change

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-yXIsKBhCWn3S@localhost>,
  doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:

> > 3) The instructions on the system say to make sure all the printer
> > devices are empty before changing the spool path.  What would
happen if
> > there were some print jobs in one of the "intermediate queue"
devices
> > when I changed the path?
>
> Not sure, but if the spool is empty, and the intermediate queues are
> not allowed to send to the OS/2 machine, while the change is made,
> there should not be a problem. On the other hand, it might be a good
> idea to drain the whole print queue, from one end to the other, just
> to make sure (I am *almost* positive that this is not required, and
> would not bother, on my own personal machine. Your situation is a
> little different, and I might be a little more cautious).

Actually, we had some jobs that didn't matter sitting in only one of
the queues, so I tried changing the spool path and it wouldn't let me.
It told me the queues weren't empty. :)  So that answers that question!

Thanks for the other answers, too.  That helps. :)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      21-Oct-99 14:51:29
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Richard Steiner [FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ FWIW, I saw that same message posted verbatim in at least one other
¯ newsgroup (a BeOS newsgroup), so postings to multiple groups *were*
¯ apparently done.  How many, I don't know.

I actually think it's better if spammers cross post instead of posting several
non cross posted messages to each group. That way it will be marked read in
your news reader once you have read it, and won't get it multiple times.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      21-Oct-99 14:57:17
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Richard Steiner [FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>
¯ spake unto us, saying:
¯ 
¯ >The very typical and usual Team OS/2 intelligence service to check for
¯ >political correctness and proper anti-Microsoft view by all who should be
¯ >allowed to use OS/2 and post in this group?
¯ 
¯ Does Team OS/2 even exist anymore?  I don't think it does...?

I still occasionally se it in some .sigs, but it's perhaps some left over from
earlier days. Now it's very rarely seen I admit. I don't think at least IBM
supports that organization any more. The comments was however more of a
description on the mindset of the posters who used to post with that banner.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K 
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn     
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 21-Oct-99 09:05:16
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hello all,
>I downloaded PMMail 2.1 and don't really see much of an improvement
>over my 2.0 version; as a matter of fact, I can't see the differences
>at all, other than the complete lack of reference to 2.0 and how
>whether 2.1 is a free update to 2.0 or not...  It's not free for 1.9x
>users, but I used a registered 2.0 and 2.1 insisted on ignoring that
>little detail.  What are people's impressions of 2.1?  Anyone got it
>to upgrade their 2.0 installation successfully?  Thanks!

Still on 1.95a here, because I never saw anything worth
upgrading for in 2.0 -- besides the spacebar/pagedown
feature (which come to think of it wasn't in 2.00).  By what
I've seen on the PMMail listserv, though, your registration
should have carried through -- I haven't seen that complaint
yet.

The list of changes can be found at:

http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000002.html

where you'll also find, at the bottom of the screen, a
pulldown with a "suggestion box."  

I don't see any raving on the PMMail list.  Some people seem
to think PMMail users should be patient, others are worn out
from waiting for Southsoft all that time.  The problems I
have with PMMail are fairly easily worked around, but other
folks have bigger issues.  I REALLY wish they would do
something sensible about the popup menu behavior on both the
read message and edit message windows.  (Neither of them
work here in PMMail 2.10, but from what I've seen, the
behavior is still very unstandard, not to mention un-user-
configurable.  Maybe they should get Rich Walsh to guide
them.)


-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: rr14@yahoo.com                                    21-Oct-99 13:57:17
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: rr14@yahoo.com (me)

derwin@airmail.net (Dale Erwin) wrote in 
<92D1D388B55F30BE.6092082A1271BC49.B4ABC2B4E06FC1DA@lp.airnews.net>:

Hello Dale...
Try creating a NS.CMD file with:
Set Path=x:\netscape\program;%path%
Set Beginlibpath=x:\netscape\program
Netscape

Where x:\netscape\program is the path to netscape.
It resolved all my probs including the ftp issue and allows me to not care
about other programs self serving importance factor in the config.sys

ME

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From: lafaix@ibm.net                                    21-Oct-99 17:14:11
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: Java compiler talks german

From: lafaix@ibm.net (Martin Lafaix)

In article <7umsbg$qkp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Thomas Kellerer <tkellerer@my-deja.com> wrote:
>                                                  The only thing that
>really bothers me: the compiler keeps talking german to me and I hate
>the german error messages. Any ideas on how to change that (apart from
>not making any errors :-)

What do you hate, the error messages or that they are in german ? :-)

If it's the later, edit your CONFIG.SYS and change the "SET LANG="
line or enter "SET LANG=fr_FR" (for example) before calling javac.

Javac can speak german, spanish, french, italian, japanese, korean,
brasilian, swedish, and chinese.  (Oh, and english, too :-)

The LANG environment variable is used to find out the prefered locale.
Use "SET
LANG=en_US_makes_me_feel_better_when_I_make_errors_cause_my_boss_cant_read_engl
ish"
if you prefer english messages.
--
Martin Lafaix <lafaix@ibm.net>
Team OS/2
http://www.multimania.com/lafaix

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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         21-Oct-99 16:02:12
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:11
Subj: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

[system info copied from previous post]

HP Vectra PC running OS/2 Warp 4 FP10; 2 HDs, 3 partitions C: D: and
E:, boot drive is C:, that's where all the software is installed.

I am running this system ONLY so we can use Print Services Facility/2
(an IBM Advanced Function Presentation package) to print bank
statements.  It doesn't do anything else, ever.

Print jobs get sent from a Unix image server via LPD command over one
network to what we call "intermediate queues" that are actually printer
devices.  We then use PSF/2 to "transform" the print job from the
intermediate queue to the printers that reside on a different network.

If it's possible, I need to know what caused the trap error.  Here's
what it said:

Trap000e ERRCD=0000 ERACC=**** ERLIM=********
EAX=061015c0 EBX=ffff0003 ECX=06000000 EDX=0000de03
ESI=fdea18c3 EDI=967a0000 EBP=00004ef4 FLG=00010046
CS=EIP=05f8:00007694 CSACC=0096 CSLIM=0000e87f
SS:ESP=0030:00004ee6 SSACC=1097 SSLIM=00003fff
DS=0608 DSACC=0093 DSLIM=0000b6cc CR0=8001001b
ES=0610 ESACC=1093 ESLIM=0000ffff CR2=9bec6ff8
FS=03c0 FSACC=0093 FSLIM=00000023
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=********

The system detected an internal processing error at location
##0168:fff492de-000e:c2de

60000, 9084

06860651

internal revision 9.034, 98/11/17

The system is stopped.  Record all of the above information and contact
your service representative.

I control alt deleted and restarted the system.  It did a chkdsk and
there were many allocation errors reported as corrected (too many went
by too fast to list, I'm not sure where the log for that is located).
It said that found resources were stored in a Found0 directory.  The D:
drive was OK, and it didn't chkdsk the e: drive (but that drive is
empty).

It restarted normally and there were still jobs in the queues.  I shut
down normally and restarted.  It came back up with no problem.  I told
the operator to procede with printing and came back here to write this
message.  As I was finishing typing up the trap error information, he
called and told me it "has the same screen".  He was just releasing
print jobs to the printers when this happened.

Please, anyone, can you tell me what's happening?  And quickly?

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: derwin@airmail.net                                20-Oct-99 20:53:00
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: derwin@airmail.net

I am posting this via News Reader/2.  The reason should be obvious.  I
followed
David's cook-book procedcure to the letter, but I still got the same problem.

The message reads a little differently from Netscape 4.61, but it means the
same
thing:

    Netscape is unable to locate the server  home.netscape.com.

    Please check the server name and try again.

I started the dialer before starting Netscape.  When I check the dialer, it
apparently
has a live connection.  I am now going to reinstall 2.02 (AGAIN) so that I can
continue to work.

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From: skrise@ibm.net                                    21-Oct-99 12:57:03
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: skrise@ibm.net

cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:
> 
> In article <qzpxraavozarg.fjvo4y1.pminews@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
> <snip>..in MOST cases when freezes happened Netscape was somehow
> involved: I really don't like this dinosaur of a program very much,
> because it seems to be badly programmed as I would assume. 

Now I don't mean to be a boner.  I think OS/2 is a kick ass OS
and am eagerly awaiting when I can get it (with the rest of my
system) back up and running next month with a new hard drive,
but isn't the promise of OS/2 to protect the system even from
ill-behaved / poorly programmed apps?

When I bought into the OS/2 philosophy (systems should be robust and
allow the user to get work done) that was my understanding
and I must admit that the biggest disappointment with Warp 4 (actually
the only disappointment) was that if I used NS then I would eventually
have to reboot at some point due to a complete lockup of the UI.

It has pissed me off to no end that there is not a kill utility
out there for OS/2 that will definitively and singularly kill 
ANY app in ANY state at ANY time.  Believe me, I've looked and 
haven't found one that can kill a locked up Netscape session.

Having said that just let me kick in that InJoy is one hell of
a dialer.

Steven

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                21-Oct-99 13:28:08
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:

>>I have tried on two different machines and half a dozen different
>>floppy drives.  I've tried command line formatting in Warp 3 and

>I take it this was ALL done with the same floppy drive??  If so, maybe the
>drive itself has a problem.

As my post said, I've tried half a dozen different floppy drives om two
different machines.  What is this track 0 thing?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             21-Oct-99 12:48:15
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

You trapped in some device driver or IFS. Unless there was an "Exception in
Device" message you imitted, I can't say which. get
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/disk/exeinfo.zip. unzip it and type
"exefino -f -le87f" from a command prompt on each drive where you have device
drivers. You should get back a match fr the code segment size of some DD. At
least that will tell you what's trapping so you can look for newer fix
levels, tune parameters, or whatever.
 -scott


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From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com                           21-Oct-99 15:39:26
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:57:07, skrise@ibm.net wrote:

> cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:
> > 
> > In article <qzpxraavozarg.fjvo4y1.pminews@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
> > <snip>..in MOST cases when freezes happened Netscape was somehow
> > involved: I really don't like this dinosaur of a program very much,
> > because it seems to be badly programmed as I would assume. 
> 
> Now I don't mean to be a boner.  I think OS/2 is a kick ass OS
> and am eagerly awaiting when I can get it (with the rest of my
> system) back up and running next month with a new hard drive,
> but isn't the promise of OS/2 to protect the system even from
> ill-behaved / poorly programmed apps?
> 
> When I bought into the OS/2 philosophy (systems should be robust and
> allow the user to get work done) that was my understanding
> and I must admit that the biggest disappointment with Warp 4 (actually
> the only disappointment) was that if I used NS then I would eventually
> have to reboot at some point due to a complete lockup of the UI.
> 
> It has pissed me off to no end that there is not a kill utility
> out there for OS/2 that will definitively and singularly kill 
> ANY app in ANY state at ANY time.  Believe me, I've looked and 
> haven't found one that can kill a locked up Netscape session.
> 
> Having said that just let me kick in that InJoy is one hell of
> a dialer.
> 
> Steven

Steven, I've never had a session of any kind that Watchcat couldn't 
take care of.  I've been using Os/2 for many years.

George

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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            21-Oct-99 18:42:13
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <8E6666E67rr14yahoocom@198.133.22.73>, rr14@yahoo.com (me) writes:
>derwin@airmail.net (Dale Erwin) wrote in 
><92D1D388B55F30BE.6092082A1271BC49.B4ABC2B4E06FC1DA@lp.airnews.net>:
>
>Hello Dale...
>Try creating a NS.CMD file with:
>Set Path=x:\netscape\program;%path%
>Set Beginlibpath=x:\netscape\program
>Netscape
>
>Where x:\netscape\program is the path to netscape.
>It resolved all my probs including the ftp issue and allows me to not care
>about other programs self serving importance factor in the config.sys
>
>ME

While you are at it in this CMD file, add the little uitility NISTIME
ahead of the Netscape load, if you are in a position to be connected to
your IP prior to calling Netscape.

Simple command just:

    nistime -s

That stunt will automagically poll NAVY MIL and syncronize your time
clock on your computer each time you whop Netscape!

Works fine here on a cable modem system..

Plus, if you are using Junkbuster, and have it set up for trusted sites,
with a little more work post Netscape, you can use a timed wait while
you get a chance to call the COOKIE file with your favorite editor to
make sure it's what you want.   There have been a couple of morsels that
have been added to the cookie dough even with Junkbuster, but they are
few and far between..

All with a batch file...

Oh .. the new version 4.16 doesn't like a double dose of:

      -len_US

If you call it in your CMD file, I think you'll have to take it out of
your session commands.  If you leave it there, you can't call it in the
batch file.   I have had double doses of this produce SYS3175 errors..


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     21-Oct-99 19:01:09
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:29:25, "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> I downloaded PMMail 2.1 and don't really see much of an improvement
> over my 2.0 version; as a matter of fact, I can't see the differences
> at all, other than the complete lack of reference to 2.0 and how
> whether 2.1 is a free update to 2.0 or not...  It's not free for 1.9x
> users, but I used a registered 2.0 and 2.1 insisted on ignoring that
> little detail.  What are people's impressions of 2.1?  Anyone got it
> to upgrade their 2.0 installation successfully?  Thanks!
> 
> Regards,
> Xtralarge OS/2 fan
> 	
> Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
> killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
> I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
> and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  
> 

I did the update. Backed up my existing 2.0 PMMail directory, and 
installed 2.1 over top of 2.0. 100% success, everything works, and the
registration was carried over. I haven't noticed any real differences,
but I have heard that a lot of fixes were incorporated.

Of course, it would not have worked, if I didn't make the backup first
<g>.
******************************
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     21-Oct-99 19:01:06
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: MWave was Re: IBM's Marketing Skills

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:42:37, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo 
<bvermo@powertech.no> wrote:

> Doug Bissett wrote:
> 
> > So, to answer your question: I was refering to what was possible
> > (within specs, or not), with the existing (not modified) cards, when
> > they FIRST came out. I have not heard of any MWave card that will run
> > at 56K modem speeds, but they may exist.
> 
> They could be used as 128kb/s ISDN adapters, so it must have been the
> (semi)firmware which limited the modem speed.
> 

Never saw that option anywhere. Perhaps, some of the newer models??

Yes, it was the "firmware" that was the limiting factor. The clock 
speed just wasn't fast enough to handle everything.
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     21-Oct-99 19:01:08
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: Lost REXX

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:35:04, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo 
<bvermo@powertech.no> wrote:

> You're probably on to something there. I have learned from experience never
> to use REXX in startup.cmd because install jobs often add commands at the
> beginning of it. Call or start the file with the REXX program from it
> instead.
>  

This is, probably, what happened. I use a REXX startup, and always 
make sure I keep a good copy of it, since install programs have 
modified it and made it unusable. 
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: skrise@ibm.net                                    21-Oct-99 15:12:14
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: skrise@ibm.net

George Czerw cwaeth:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:57:07, skrise@ibm.net wrote:
> 
>> cbzh@my-deja.com wrote:
>>> In article <qzpxraavozarg.fjvo4y1.pminews@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>>> <snip>..in MOST cases when freezes happened Netscape was somehow
>>
>> <snip>...isn't the promise of OS/2 to protect the system even from
>> ill-behaved / poorly programmed apps?
>> <snip>...there is not a kill utility out there for OS/2 that will 
>> definitively and singularly kill ANY app in ANY state at ANY time.  
>
> Steven, I've never had a session of any kind that Watchcat couldn't
> take care of.  

I have tried WatchCat and the KILL9 dll extension and neither of
those could kill Netscape when it had hung.  Is it possible that
there is something in my setup that would prevent me from killing
apps as effectively as you can?  

Are you running Warp 3 or Warp 4?

I wonder if FixPack level could effect this.  Because that would
be great if I could get Netscape to not hang OS/2 or if it did I
could actually kill it without having to reboot.

I wonder if drivers could influence this.  You've offered me
hope that this thing can be licked.  I'll have to see what I
can do.

Steven

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From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca                           21-Oct-99 19:42:29
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: More IBM ineptedness story

From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

While we're slamming IBM Marketing, here's another story about this
gargantuan company that makes you wonder how it stays alive:

Our company recently acquired another. Amongst our "assets" is a guy who
learned his craft at Cray, SGI and an IBM sponsored supercomputer project.
He said the guys at IBM taught him all sorts of tricks and techniques for
analysis and design to make things go FAST!

Now, he does something a bit different, with high speed telecom equipment.
All the chips, fab, process and packaging are outsourced to IBM. Him and
his team made those things go about 3x faster than IBM spec'd it and
thought possible. Now IBM is asking him to teach them how he made IBM's
own stuff go so well. Using the skills that IBM taught him originally!
Truly the thumb does not know what the index finger is up to at IBM.
(Take note. Once they figure out that their silicon can go that much
faster, you may see some blistering speed increases on the PPC chips. Not
that it's much use for PowerPC OS/2 now!)

I just got the RS/6000 catalog from IBM. It is also full of stuff like
DB2, new VisualAge Smalltalk,etc. all for OS/2. There's also a very
expensive ($2800!!) package update so that OS/2 CLIENTS can use AIX as a
fast print and file server.
I think the guys at OS/2 forgot to tell the RS/6000 group that the OS/2
clients were canned. Hmm...



Isaac

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      21-Oct-99 20:07:18
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <7unded$7jh$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com> wrote:

> HP Vectra PC running OS/2 Warp 4 FP10; 2 HDs, 3 partitions C: D: and

<snip>

I humbly suggest you apply FP12. Several ARAP's about printing are
addressed... Most notably:

APAR= JR13631
 TRAP ON WARP CLIENT WHEN USER TRIES TO UPDATE PRINTER PROPERTIES.

(from
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4warp/english-us/xr
_m012/readme2)

Good luck!

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


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From: sjehay@ibm.net                                    21-Oct-99 20:08:18
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 20:06:28
Subj: SYS3171 in JAVAI.DLL with servlet

From: sjehay@ibm.net

Hi,

I'm experiencing a strange problem with the GA version of Java 1.1.8
with the latest fixes.  I'm trying to run a third-party servlet-based
shopping cart system using Domino Go and Websphere 1.1 under Warp 4.

Whenever you try to list 8 products from a category of a couple of
hundred, Domino crashes with a SYS3171 as follows:

10-21-1999  20:45:03  SYS3171  PID 002b  TID 000d  Slot 006c
E:\OS2APPS\NEW\DOMINOGO\BIN\HTTPD.EXE
c0000005
1e6ebfb3
P1=00000002  P2=00b13a90  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=00000000  ECX=00b11000  EDX=00003000
ESI=05fc62e3  EDI=00b11000
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e6ebfb3  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00b13a94  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00b13af4  FLG=00012206

JAVAI.DLL 0002:0006bfb3

SYS3171: A program in this session encountered a problem and
cannot continue.

EXPLANATION: The process was terminated without running exception
handlers because there was not enough room left on the stack to
dispatch the exception.  This is typically caused by exceptions
occurring in exception handlers.

ACTION: If you purchased this program, contact the supplier of the
program.  If you are the developer of this program, refer to the
information in the register.

This does not happen with Java 1.1.7.  I can't tell you any more since
whatever error would have appeared seems to have gone wrong itself,
according to this message.

Does anyone have any ideas as to how to proceed?

Thanks very much in advance,
--
Simon Hay
sjehay@ibm.net
--------------


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From: rl3s@netcom10.netcom.com                          21-Oct-99 20:24:20
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 20:06:28
Subj: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: Zeus Paleologos <rl3s@netcom10.netcom.com>

I have been a user of OS/2 since 1993 and want to buy a PC to replace
my old Packard Bell Pentium 75 which is now about 4 years old.  This
PC has a 1.2G HDD and has been setup for years to boot Win95 and Linux
in addition to OS/2 though OS/2 is loaded 99+% of the time.

The PC that I buy will be connected to the Internet full-time (24&7), 
primarily running a web server though I will also use it for light-duty
desktop work. I will be attaching a parallel-port ZIP drive I own.  I 
also hope to add to the PC if it does not already have the following 
equipment:  a large HDD, a color inkjet printer, a DVD drive, 
a highspeed modem, audio card, 19" monitor, and scanner.  I may want to 
also add:  a network card, a CD-RW drive and a video camera.  I expect 
to buy a brand name, factory-assembled, locally-available (i.e., not 
mail-order) product.

I have a few questions:

1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with 
    a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ?

2 - Does OS/2 handle large ( > 2GBytes) HDD's ?  I understand it is a
    major headache to configure a PC and partition a large HDD today 
    to allow the booting and running of either Win98, Linux, or OS/2 
    on the same unit.

3 - Do Hewlett-Packard (Pavillon) model PCs run OS/2 acceptably ?  I 
    notice that no OS/2 drivers are available for the R series HP 
    printer/scanner/copiers.  Should I forget these kind of all-in-one
    units if I plan to run OS/2?

4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will 
    Warp 3 still be a possibility ?

5 - Is OS/2 support available for the range and kinds of peripherals 
    in variety that I have indicated I will eventually add to my system?

Regarding these questions, I would be grateful to anyone who could 
provide me with opinions, suggestions, references, or URL's that might 
be helpful in making a purchase decision.

Thanks,


ZP

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             21-Oct-99 15:51:29
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:07:37 GMT, hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote:

>I humbly suggest you apply FP12. Several ARAP's about printing are
addressed... Most notably:
>APAR= JR13631

Well, I think FP12 is great (naturally, I'm particularly fond of the fixes
*I* put in), but the APAR refers to a ring 3 trap, and I really doubt that
FP12 will help the original poster's problems.


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From: bosmith@ismi.net                                  21-Oct-99 17:45:14
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 20:06:28
Subj: Sending Binary Files via sendmail?

From: bosmith <bosmith@ismi.net>

I am running Warp v3.0 with the IBM TCPIP stack.  I use sendmail to
email text reports to users and it works quite well.  I now have a need
to send a binary file (an Excel spreadsheet) and find that sendmail
won't deliver it properly.

Can anybody suggest a way to get this done outside of manually mailing
the report?

All thoughts deeply appreciated.

Bob Smith
Univ of Michigan - Hospital Financial Services
Ann Arbor, MI 48109
bosmith@umich.edu


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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               21-Oct-99 15:06:21
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 20:06:28
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:57:07 -0500, skrise@ibm.net wrote:

>but isn't the promise of OS/2 to protect the system even from
>ill-behaved / poorly programmed apps?

No, OS/2 is not bullet proof.    What's valuable about OS/2 is that it's
predictable and strike a very good balance between performance and resource
utilization.

>
>When I bought into the OS/2 philosophy (systems should be robust and
>allow the user to get work done) that was my understanding
>and I must admit that the biggest disappointment with Warp 4 (actually
>the only disappointment) was that if I used NS then I would eventually
>have to reboot at some point due to a complete lockup of the UI.

Yes, OS/2 UI CAN be locked and aps CAN get stuck to the point where one
couldn't kill it.    These are known - but predictable issues.    NS 4.04 has
it's share of problems.    I never had much trouble with 2.02 and so far,
4.61 (beta) is behaving very well.



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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               21-Oct-99 23:56:09
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Richard Steiner wrote:

>
> FWIW, I saw that same message posted verbatim in at least one other
> newsgroup (a BeOS newsgroup), so postings to multiple groups *were*
> apparently done.  How many, I don't know.

It sure was a genuine spam. Most reasonable people are against spam even
if they happen to like the product or service it is plugging. The ends do
not justify the means. Or will anybody in this group really support the
right of, say, Medicins sans frontieres (winners of the Nobel peace price
this year) to inundate us with lengthy and quite worthy messages?

The problem with spam is not the content, it is about being in the wrong
place.


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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          21-Oct-99 22:07:14
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: Floppy problems

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <380f4dac$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>
lifedata@xxvol.com writes:

> As my post said, I've tried half a dozen different floppy
> drives om two different machines.  What is this track 0 thing?

I dug back into my archives, chasing a memory from 1983, when I
had to write a disk formatter working to IBM and ISO formats.

(ISO, BTW, is close to the IBM standard, so was easy to include,
though I have yet to hear of anyone who admits to using it.  NB,
though, that I left that low-level business shortly afterwards.)

Anyhow, disk tracks number from 0.  Track 0 is the one which the
drive seeks to (or is returned to) when a progressive incremental
scan of all tracks is to be done or (often) when directories are
to be accessed (eg, CP/M, FAT16).  Usually, that is; someone will
now tell us that isn't always so.  Someone else will have to tell
you if Track 0 inevitably is the home of the directory in FAT16,
as I was then in the world of CP/M-80.  Your system could either
be reporting failure of the low-level harware "seek to track 0"
command, or of a higher-level software-driven seek.

If you really have used a range of machines -- all with different
drives -- and many kinds/makes/batches of floppies, as well as an
assortment of formatter programs, then you may have one of those
problems best fixed by the judicious application of chicken blood
and bats' livers, accompanied by frenzied chanting.  <g> / :-(

HTH as far as it goes.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         21-Oct-99 23:15:20
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:51:59 -0500 (CDT), Scott E. Garfinkle wrote:
>Well, I think FP12 is great (naturally, I'm particularly fond of the fixes
>*I* put in), but the APAR refers to a ring 3 trap, and I really doubt that
>FP12 will help the original poster's problems.

Ahhh.. A developer! A sacred thing, to be certain! A man whos feet deserve
all the kisses of all the beautiful damsels in the land! (Well, I'm sure I
could atleast get my friend to do it.. She's pretty cute.)

Anyways, enough with my nose up your arse, and onto the question. {smile}

Is there *ANY* way you can make OS/2 not HATE the S3 Virge/DX vid cards?
The drivers I have from S3 (ie: the native drivers) lock the system as
soon as the WPS starts, and the GRADD drivers are, frankly, shit. (IME, of
course).

The S3 drivers worked well enough under FP11, except for the problems I had
when loading full-screen DOS sessions;

 o I was no longer able to open an OS/2 command window
 o "@ECHO OFF" no longer worked in *ANY* .CMD file
 o The mouse would stop responding when I came back from any full-screen
   session, fixed only by switching back to full-screen and back to the
   WPS again
 o Text in tables with blue (especially) backgrounds in Netscape would
   dissapear (Communicator v4.04, the first v4.61 beta and the latest v4.61 
   refresh)

and a few other problems that don't come to mind at the moment. Needless to
say, it wasn't very pretty. When I loaded a graphics intensive(ish) DOS game
(Indycar Racing 2), the WPS wouldn't come back.

With the GRADD drivers, the WPS will atleast start, and my system is somewhat
more useable. The problems with GRADD;

 o Most titlebars won't allow Object Desktop v2's titlebar effects to take 
   place (they're the stock Warp 4 solid colour).
 o When in a DOS FS session, OS/2 can not write the OS2.INI file. If I leave
   this error box up for ~2-3 minutes, I can't close it and have to re-boot
   to get rid of it.
 o When loading the same SVGA DOS game, the WPS comes back with nothing more
   than three large greenish bars across the top of the screen (ever owned
   an old(er) TV where the horizontal hold went wacky?)

This video card works beautifully under Linux, as well as Windy'98, and was
working well enough under OS/2 for me to be happy.

Unfortunately, the only suggestions I've recieved thus far have been to
either revert to FP11 or to use CMD.EXE as my shell. (NOT acceptable! OS/2's
WPS is far to pretty to ignore!).

Any help is appreciated. Whether you do something yourself, or plaster post-
it notes all over the monitors of the other developers, or call an emergency
board meeting.. You know.. Whatever..

{smile}

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com                           21-Oct-99 20:31:28
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw)

I'm using Warp4, FP#12, Netscape 4.61GA, Java 1.18 GA.  Can't remember
the last time Netscape hung for any reason here!

Can you pinpoint when Netscape hangs?  Are you loading something 
particular?  Does it involve activation of sound?

I'm wondering whether you don't have a problem with a) bad or 
corrupted video drivers, b) bad Netscape and/or plugin pack 
installation, c) incorrectly set Netscape cache, d) swap file too 
small, e) bad sound card or MMOS2 installation!

George

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    21-Oct-99 23:21:09
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

David T. Johnson (djohnson@isomedia.com) wrote:

: > 1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with
: >     a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ?

: Get an Athlon.  They are faster than Pentium III and much more bang for
: the buck.

	Yeah, sure...  Just wait for the slew of Athlon motherboards to 
come out, that's all.  There are like, what, two out right now?  The best 
bang for the buck is, IMO, the Celeron.  Much cheaper than the Pentium 
II/III and the only difference in performance from the benchmarks between 
the two is like 15-25%.  Big deal.

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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             21-Oct-99 16:01:24
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


Zeus Paleologos wrote:
> 
> I have been a user of OS/2 since 1993 and want to buy a PC to replace
> my old Packard Bell Pentium 75 which is now about 4 years old.  This
> PC has a 1.2G HDD and has been setup for years to boot Win95 and Linux
> in addition to OS/2 though OS/2 is loaded 99+% of the time.
> 
> The PC that I buy will be connected to the Internet full-time (24&7),
> primarily running a web server though I will also use it for light-duty
> desktop work. I will be attaching a parallel-port ZIP drive I own.  I
> also hope to add to the PC if it does not already have the following
> equipment:  a large HDD, a color inkjet printer, a DVD drive,
> a highspeed modem, audio card, 19" monitor, and scanner.  I may want to
> also add:  a network card, a CD-RW drive and a video camera.  I expect
> to buy a brand name, factory-assembled, locally-available (i.e., not
> mail-order) product.
> 
> I have a few questions:
> 
> 1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with
>     a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ?

Get an Athlon.  They are faster than Pentium III and much more bang for
the buck.

> 
> 2 - Does OS/2 handle large ( > 2GBytes) HDD's ?  I understand it is a
>     major headache to configure a PC and partition a large HDD today
>     to allow the booting and running of either Win98, Linux, or OS/2
>     on the same unit.

No problem with >2GB hard drives but if they are IDE drives, you need to
update the install disk drivers before install.  Check here under
'installation disk updates:'

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/os_2comp/index.htm

> 
> 3 - Do Hewlett-Packard (Pavillon) model PCs run OS/2 acceptably ?  I
>     notice that no OS/2 drivers are available for the R series HP
>     printer/scanner/copiers.  Should I forget these kind of all-in-one
>     units if I plan to run OS/2?

I use an Officejet 350 printer,fax,scanner,copier with OS/2.  It came
with Windows 3.1 software that works fine under Win-OS2.  Be sure that
you can find OS/2 drivers for the video and sound cards in your new
machine, whatever it is.


> 
> 4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will
>     Warp 3 still be a possibility ?


 Warp 3 is no longer sold.  Warp 4 is better and has more features.  

> 
> 5 - Is OS/2 support available for the range and kinds of peripherals
>     in variety that I have indicated I will eventually add to my system?

Most printers, SCSI scanners are supported.  Some USB mice, keyboards,
modems, scanners.  No Winmodems, HSP modems, etc.
> 
> Regarding these questions, I would be grateful to anyone who could
> provide me with opinions, suggestions, references, or URL's that might
> be helpful in making a purchase decision.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ZP

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From: louiss@gate.net                                   21-Oct-99 23:54:17
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: louiss@gate.net    (Louis Schulman)

I am all the more sure your problem is with TCP/IP.  Do the MPTS refresh and
get the latest stack.  BTW, the download isn't that big (3 disks, I think).

Louis

In <CB1E2ED04BD406EF.FA001E6F3C76C2BD.AECECAFEA33102EF@lp.airnews.net>,
derwin@airmail.net writes:
>I am posting this via News Reader/2.  The reason should be obvious.  I
followed
>David's cook-book procedcure to the letter, but I still got the same problem.
>
>The message reads a little differently from Netscape 4.61, but it means the
same
>thing:
>
>    Netscape is unable to locate the server  home.netscape.com.
>
>    Please check the server name and try again.
>
>I started the dialer before starting Netscape.  When I check the dialer, it
apparently
>has a live connection.  I am now going to reinstall 2.02 (AGAIN) so that I
can
>continue to work.

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      21-Oct-99 20:34:25
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <CB1E2ED04BD406EF.FA001E6F3C76C2BD.AECECAFEA33102EF@lp.airnews.net>,
derwin@airmail.net writes:

>I am posting this via News Reader/2.  The reason should be obvious.  I
followed
>David's cook-book procedcure to the letter, but I still got the same problem.
>
>The message reads a little differently from Netscape 4.61, but it means the
same
>thing:
>
>    Netscape is unable to locate the server  home.netscape.com.
>
>    Please check the server name and try again.
>
>I started the dialer before starting Netscape.  When I check the dialer, it
apparently
>has a live connection.  I am now going to reinstall 2.02 (AGAIN) so that I
can
>continue to work.

After Netscape stops complaining, go to "Edit...Preferences...
Navigator" and tell Navigator to start up with a blank page or a 
page located on your machine rather than trying to find 
home.netscape.com as soon as it comes up.  Then if you still want
to go to home.netscape.com, just click on the "Home" button and 
it will take you there (assuming you left it set up as your home 
page).

What's happening is Netscape is trying to resolve the
home.netscape.com address before the connection has completed its
negotiations.  You could also just wait until the connection is
completely established before starting Netscape.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: jbbandos@hotmail.com                              22-Oct-99 00:19:20
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: OS2SYS.INI can't be written to disk - SOLVED by backing out

From: jbbandos@hotmail.com (Jose' Bernardo Silva)

Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net> escreveu:

>Can't buy the swapper theory when my swap file is not on my boot driver
>and 100Mb+ is free.

Well, I haven't been able to locate the exact combination, but it happened
here
also. I have Process Commander (which doesn't work too well on FP12), Scitech
Display Doctor (at the time, beta 7) which is GRADD based, and when I applied
FP12 I started getting message boxes either on OS2.INI, OS2SYS.INI, or
NSCP.INI
not being written to disk. I have nearly 1Gb free on my swap partition, swap
never grew past 48Mb during the time (it does sometimes), and I have about
450Mb
free on my boot drive. Ah, and 128Mb RAM. I had to backout of FP12 to get some
stability back to my system... After backing out to FP11 those message boxes
never appeared again. So, it might really be a bug in FP12

--
If replying by email, please remove the !no!spam part of my
address. I am tired of email spams...

Freedom for East Timor!

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From: benbowc@tui.lincoln.ac.nz                         22-Oct-99 13:20:15
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: cincyteamos2?

From: Craig Benbow <benbowc@tui.lincoln.ac.nz>

What happened to TeamOS2 at cincy?
Yes I have not been keeping track.  Can anyone explain what happened to
them so we can have some closure on this once prominent OS/2 group.

Craig

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                21-Oct-99 19:31:19
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

John Thompson wrote:
> 
> In <CB1E2ED04BD406EF.FA001E6F3C76C2BD.AECECAFEA33102EF@lp.airnews.net>,
derwin@airmail.net writes:
> 
> >I am posting this via News Reader/2.  The reason should be obvious.  I
followed
> >David's cook-book procedcure to the letter, but I still got the same
problem.
> >
> >The message reads a little differently from Netscape 4.61, but it means the 
same
> >thing:
> >
> >    Netscape is unable to locate the server  home.netscape.com.
> >
> >    Please check the server name and try again.
> >
> >I started the dialer before starting Netscape.  When I check the dialer, it 
apparently
> >has a live connection.  I am now going to reinstall 2.02 (AGAIN) so that I
can
> >continue to work.
> 
> After Netscape stops complaining, go to "Edit...Preferences...
> Navigator" and tell Navigator to start up with a blank page or a
> page located on your machine rather than trying to find
> home.netscape.com as soon as it comes up.  Then if you still want
> to go to home.netscape.com, just click on the "Home" button and
> it will take you there (assuming you left it set up as your home
> page).
> 
> What's happening is Netscape is trying to resolve the
> home.netscape.com address before the connection has completed its
> negotiations.  You could also just wait until the connection is
> completely established before starting Netscape.
> 
> -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

No, John.  Maybe I wasn't explicit enough.  I started the dialer and
waited until the connection was complete, then started Netscape.  And
the problem is not just with this server, I get the same message no
matter what url is entered, same when I try to access the news server
and the same with the mail server.  It just is not finding the dial-up
connection.  Somehow, it is not communicating properly with TCP/IP.  So 
I re-install 2.02 and it finds everything just fine--just like before.

My experience has been that whatever changed at the time the failure
began is usually the culprit.  I would be willing to bet my entire
October paycheck that somehow the installation of VisualAge COBOL 2.1
is what caused my problem.  I just don't have the slightest idea of
what it could have done.  I am seriously considering uninstalling the
product just to see.  I was hoping to find some way to avoid it, but
things aren't looking rosy right now.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                21-Oct-99 19:49:00
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:
> 
> In <8E6666E67rr14yahoocom@198.133.22.73>, rr14@yahoo.com (me) writes:
> >derwin@airmail.net (Dale Erwin) wrote in
> ><92D1D388B55F30BE.6092082A1271BC49.B4ABC2B4E06FC1DA@lp.airnews.net>:
> >
> >Hello Dale...
> >Try creating a NS.CMD file with:
> >Set Path=x:\netscape\program;%path%
> >Set Beginlibpath=x:\netscape\program
> >Netscape
> >
> >Where x:\netscape\program is the path to netscape.
> >It resolved all my probs including the ftp issue and allows me to not care
> >about other programs self serving importance factor in the config.sys
> >
> >ME
> 
> While you are at it in this CMD file, add the little uitility NISTIME
> ahead of the Netscape load, if you are in a position to be connected to
> your IP prior to calling Netscape.
> 
> Simple command just:
> 
>     nistime -s
> 
> That stunt will automagically poll NAVY MIL and syncronize your time
> clock on your computer each time you whop Netscape!
> 
> Works fine here on a cable modem system..

> 
> Plus, if you are using Junkbuster, and have it set up for trusted sites,
> with a little more work post Netscape, you can use a timed wait while
> you get a chance to call the COOKIE file with your favorite editor to
> make sure it's what you want.   There have been a couple of morsels that
> have been added to the cookie dough even with Junkbuster, but they are
> few and far between..
> 
> All with a batch file...
> 
> Oh .. the new version 4.16 doesn't like a double dose of:
> 
>       -len_US
> 
> If you call it in your CMD file, I think you'll have to take it out of
> your session commands.  If you leave it there, you can't call it in the
> batch file.   I have had double doses of this produce SYS3175 errors..

What do you mean by "take it out of your session commands?"
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: lazaga1@attglobal.net                             21-Oct-99 20:18:23
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:01
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: Paul Lazaga <lazaga1@attglobal.net>


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 21.10.99, 20:01:48, "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com> wrote 
regarding Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?:


> Zeus Paleologos wrote:
> >
> > I have been a user of OS/2 since 1993 and want to buy a PC to replace
> > my old Packard Bell Pentium 75 which is now about 4 years old.  This
> > PC has a 1.2G HDD and has been setup for years to boot Win95 and Linux
> > in addition to OS/2 though OS/2 is loaded 99+% of the time.
> >
> > The PC that I buy will be connected to the Internet full-time (24&7),
> > primarily running a web server though I will also use it for 
light-duty
> > desktop work. I will be attaching a parallel-port ZIP drive I own.  I
> > also hope to add to the PC if it does not already have the following
> > equipment:  a large HDD, a color inkjet printer, a DVD drive,
> > a highspeed modem, audio card, 19" monitor, and scanner.  I may want 
to
> > also add:  a network card, a CD-RW drive and a video camera.  I expect
> > to buy a brand name, factory-assembled, locally-available (i.e., not
> > mail-order) product.
> >
> > I have a few questions:
> >
> > 1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with
> >     a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ?

> Get an Athlon.  They are faster than Pentium III and much more bang 
for
> the buck.

I find the AMD K6-2-450 quite a good alternative while the Athlons get 
to market in more force with working Motherboards.

> >
> > 2 - Does OS/2 handle large ( > 2GBytes) HDD's ?  I understand it is a
> >     major headache to configure a PC and partition a large HDD today
> >     to allow the booting and running of either Win98, Linux, or OS/2
> >     on the same unit.

> No problem with >2GB hard drives but if they are IDE drives, you need 
to
> update the install disk drivers before install.  Check here under
> 'installation disk updates:'

> http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/os_2comp/index.htm

> >
> > 3 - Do Hewlett-Packard (Pavillon) model PCs run OS/2 acceptably ?  I
> >     notice that no OS/2 drivers are available for the R series HP
> >     printer/scanner/copiers.  Should I forget these kind of all-in-one
> >     units if I plan to run OS/2?

> I use an Officejet 350 printer,fax,scanner,copier with OS/2.  It came
> with Windows 3.1 software that works fine under Win-OS2.  Be sure that
> you can find OS/2 drivers for the video and sound cards in your new
> machine, whatever it is.


> >
> > 4 - Should I plan on installing Warp 4 on whatever I get or will
> >     Warp 3 still be a possibility ?


>  Warp 3 is no longer sold.  Warp 4 is better and has more features.

> >
> > 5 - Is OS/2 support available for the range and kinds of peripherals
> >     in variety that I have indicated I will eventually add to my 
system?

> Most printers, SCSI scanners are supported.  Some USB mice, keyboards,
> modems, scanners.  No Winmodems, HSP modems, etc.
> >
> > Regarding these questions, I would be grateful to anyone who could
> > provide me with opinions, suggestions, references, or URL's that might
> > be helpful in making a purchase decision.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > ZP

The Linksys 10/100 network cards installed painlessly and were a 
bargain at around $20 each compared to the 3com prices.

-- 
Paul Lazaga, eMail: lazaga1@attglobal.net
WTW Group, Los Gatos, California, USA
Tel: 408-378-8636, Fax: 408-378-5927
Web: http://www.wtwgroup.com



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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              22-Oct-99 03:28:24
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:01
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Dale Erwin wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
> 
> editing was going to be the thing that turned it around, but no such
> luck!  The wording of the message is a little different in 4.61:
> 
>     Netscape is unable to locate the server home.netscape.com.
> 
>     Please check the server name and try again.

    You have probably already been asked this, but: Have you checked the
DNS entries in the dialler setup?
    I had grief in this area because my service provider changed its DNS
server without notifying anyone. They were deluged with calls about the
dialup not working.

> After I receive the FP12 CD that I ordered, I am going to apply FP12
> plus the fixes for MPTS and TCP/IP then repeat the procedure.  I will post
> those results at that time.
> 
> Is it possible for 4.61 and 2.02 to coexist on the same machine?

    Yes.

-- 

sma at rtd dot com
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From: dmckenn@ibm.net                                   21-Oct-99 23:28:26
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:01
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@ibm.net>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:48:41 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:


>>  4. Delete the folder Netscape was installed in (and any other folders that
>> may contain failed attempts to install).
>
>How about if I copy them to my SyJet Drive then mount a different
>cartridge, just in case something needs to be restored?
>

   That would be fine.

>>    The idea is to remove all traces of any installation of Netscape.
>> 
>>  5. Use a tool like WPTOOLS or UNIMAINT to clean out the .INI files to
remove
>> any traces of Netscape(s) from them as well. This is important!
>
>This may be my downfall and possibly the reason my previous reinstalls
>had no effect.  I didn't have an INI editor, but I have recently 
>downloaded and installed INITOOLS from hobbes. 
>
>Am I only concerned with OS2.INI?  What about OS2SYS.INI?  Others?
>I also hope I will be able to recognize all those elements which are
>Netscape-related.  I know there is a Netscape.INI, but it should be
>completely deleted, right?
>

   Get WPTOOLS - freeware written by Mr. Henk Kelder (find it on Hobbes, or
do a search on 'Henk Kelder'). Every OS/2 user owes Mr. Kelder a case of
Grolsch for this. It works on both OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI. Netscape.INI
should be gone. From a command line (the root directory) type 'dir
netscape.ini /s' to be sure.
	

>Before I begin, I also want to say that a couple of weeks ago I did
>a comparison study of all my CONFIG.SYS backups to see what the
>differences were regarding the Netscape entries.  Unexpectedly, I
>discovered that the first failure of Netscape 4.04 came immediately
>after I installed VisualAge COBOL.  I didn't really think about this
>at the time, but the dates on those CONFIG.SYS backups are, in my
>opinion, pretty conclusive.  It seems the COBOL install put its
>directory at the head of the PATH and LIBPATH concatenations and it
>also put the ".;" at the very beginning of each one.  I remember
>reading somewhere that the ".:" should not come before the Netscape
>entries.  I thought that was probably what caused the problem, but
>the first re-install I did seemed to correct that problem in the
>CONFIG.SYS.
>-- 
>Dale Erwin
>Dallas, Texas
><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

   The plot thickens! Make sure there is only one '.;' on any of the
'Libpath=', 'Set Path=' or 'Set DPath=' statements in CONFIG.SYS. An easy way
to 'deinstall' some types of software (particularly if it is heavily WPS
integrated) is to remove any path statements it may add to these same lines.
Copy CONFIG.SYS to CONFIG.SAV, then remove the path entries for VA COBOL,
reboot and see if there is any effect. Another poster also suggested altering
your 'SET SOMIR=' line - a very good idea as well. Reboot afterwards. You can
always 'reinstall' by restoring the original CONFIG.SYS from CONFIG.SAV.

   At this point I would also scrutinize my TCP/IP settings folder. Do you
have a static IP address? Are you strictly dial-up, or do you also connect
over a LAN? Multiple NIC's? Check your MPTS settings. Are there protocols you
don't use? If so, remove them. Ask if you are not sure. 

   You mention in other messages you ordered the update CD - a fantastic
idea! However, it seems you should be able to connect without that, since
Netscape 2.02 works. I am curious - does Web Explorer work? I always
preferred that to NS 2.02 anyway... 

   You *will* get this to work!

Dave McKenna

  -  After eliminating the impossible, whatever is left - however improbable,
must be the culprit!  - Sherlock Holmes


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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              22-Oct-99 03:33:00
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:01
Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Dale Erwin wrote:
> 
> [ ... ]
>
> My experience has been that whatever changed at the time the failure
> began is usually the culprit.  I would be willing to bet my entire
> October paycheck that somehow the installation of VisualAge COBOL 2.1
> is what caused my problem.  I just don't have the slightest idea of
> what it could have done.  I am seriously considering uninstalling the
> product just to see.  I was hoping to find some way to avoid it, but
> things aren't looking rosy right now.

    Before uninstalling VA COBOL try moving the LIBPATH and PATH entries
for it to the end of the path.

-- 

sma at rtd dot com
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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              22-Oct-99 03:40:00
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:01
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


OS/2 Fan wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I downloaded PMMail 2.1 and don't really see much of an improvement
> over my 2.0 version; as a matter of fact, I can't see the differences
> at all, other than the complete lack of reference to 2.0 and how
> whether 2.1 is a free update to 2.0 or not...  It's not free for 1.9x
> users, but I used a registered 2.0 and 2.1 insisted on ignoring that
> little detail.  What are people's impressions of 2.1?  Anyone got it
> to upgrade their 2.0 installation successfully?  Thanks!
> 
    Installed fine here, and kept the registration.
    The release was both a promo and a defect fix release. I do not
recall that there were any new features.


-- 

sma at rtd dot com
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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             21-Oct-99 21:36:06
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: what brand and model PC today to buy for OS/2 ?

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>

John Hong wrote:
> 
> David T. Johnson (djohnson@isomedia.com) wrote:
> 
> : > 1 - Regarding OS/2, does it matter whether I choose a PC model with
> : >     a Celeron, Pentium II or Pentium III processor ?
> 
> : Get an Athlon.  They are faster than Pentium III and much more bang for
> : the buck.
> 
>         Yeah, sure...  Just wait for the slew of Athlon motherboards to
> come out, that's all.  There are like, what, two out right now?  The best
> bang for the buck is, IMO, the Celeron.  Much cheaper than the Pentium
> II/III and the only difference in performance from the benchmarks between
> the two is like 15-25%.  Big deal.


There are actually 7 different motherboards out now with 10 additional
due this quarter.  An updated current list is at:

http://www.slota.com/motherboards/index.html

A 600 Mhz Athlon is approximately 20 percent faster than a 600 Mhz
Pentium III and also less expensive.  The Pentium III is faster than the
Celeron as you say.  The extra speed may not matter for you but
generally, with hardware, it pays to get as much as you can afford.

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From: cecilio@cesser.com                                18-Oct-99 12:22:12
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Help please

From: "Cecilio Mendez" <cecilio@cesser.com>

Sorry by my English.
I have a serious problem with a Os2 Warp 3. It is the third time that when
boot  the system display this message "The line Set runwork place in
config.sys can´t begin" and the system hangs. I have to format the hard disk
and install os2 and tcpip, but two weeks later happen another time.



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From: derwin@airmail.net                                22-Oct-99 00:50:29
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: 2ND UPDATE [Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>


David McKenna wrote:

>
>    The plot thickens! Make sure there is only one '.;' on any of the
> 'Libpath=', 'Set Path=' or 'Set DPath=' statements in CONFIG.SYS. An easy
way
> to 'deinstall' some types of software (particularly if it is heavily WPS
> integrated) is to remove any path statements it may add to these same lines.
> Copy CONFIG.SYS to CONFIG.SAV, then remove the path entries for VA COBOL,
> reboot and see if there is any effect. Another poster also suggested
altering
> your 'SET SOMIR=' line - a very good idea as well. Reboot afterwards. You
can
> always 'reinstall' by restoring the original CONFIG.SYS from CONFIG.SAV.
>
>    At this point I would also scrutinize my TCP/IP settings folder. Do you
> have a static IP address? Are you strictly dial-up, or do you also connect
> over a LAN? Multiple NIC's? Check your MPTS settings. Are there protocols
you
> don't use? If so, remove them. Ask if you are not sure.
>
>    You mention in other messages you ordered the update CD - a fantastic
> idea! However, it seems you should be able to connect without that, since
> Netscape 2.02 works. I am curious - does Web Explorer work? I always
> preferred that to NS 2.02 anyway...
>
>    You *will* get this to work!
>
> Dave McKenna
>
>   -  After eliminating the impossible, whatever is left - however
improbable,
> must be the culprit!  - Sherlock Holmes

I am posting this message from Netscape version 4.61, but I am not
sure congratulations are in order yet.

I backed up my config.sys file then eliminated all references to
IBMCOBOL in the file and re-booted and VIOLA.  But now I am without my
livelihood
tool.

What I thought about doing is going back and putting back one
item at a time until I come across the offending line/lines.
There are about 60 lines in that file that reference IBMCOBOL.

Should this be reported to IBM as a defect in the VA COBOL
install program?  But, then, what good would it do.  And they
would probably want to charge me for making the report.

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From: tkellerer@my-deja.com                             22-Oct-99 06:11:19
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: Java compiler talks german

From: Thomas Kellerer <tkellerer@my-deja.com>

In article <evzD4UhBCw1V092yn@ibm.net>,
  lafaix@ibm.net (Martin Lafaix) wrote:
> What do you hate, the error messages or that they are in german ? :-)
Both :-)

> If it's the later, edit your CONFIG.SYS and change the "SET LANG="
> line or enter "SET LANG=fr_FR" (for example) before calling javac.
Thanks for the hint. I'll try it out this evening

> The LANG environment variable is used to find out the prefered locale.
> Use "SET
LANG=en_US_makes_me_feel_better_when_I_make_errors_cause_my_boss_cant_re
ad_english"
> if you prefer english messages.
It's just that I'm so used to the english messages (from any compiler)
that I sometimes even don't understand the german ones (although I'm
german)

Thanks for your help
Thomas


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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  22-Oct-99 07:00:00
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

In article <pSKGC2YPsbY6-pn2-iGFlTKhyFZxc@cc185270-a.burl1.nj.home.com>,
  gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw) wrote:
> I'm using Warp4, FP#12, Netscape 4.61GA, Java 1.18 GA.  Can't remember
> the last time Netscape hung for any reason here!
>

Jumping back into this discussion about Netscape being able to really
freeze an otherwise stable OS/2 I may give you some more details:

- Right now I am at the same fix state as you are (except I still use
FP11, because there is no german version of FP12 yet), and I admit that
I didn't have ANY freezes since.

- Before that, at different fix levels and with different versions of
NS202 and 404 I experienced the kind of "freezes" that many users seem
to know very well. I don't know which FP/NS-Version combinations were
worse and which were better, but the symptoms were always the same:
System "frozen" until you got it restarted somehow; sometimes even CAD
didn't work any more :-(

- I am also using WatchCat with kill9, which seems to be the best
program killing team around, but they could never kill a "frozen"
netscape, because the freezing means: The program is hanging in it's
exit loop. The docs of Watchcat (or was it kill9?) also say that this is
a case they cannot resolve!

- I agree 100% with "skrise" in one of his posts: "isn't the promise of
OS/2 to protect the system even from ill-behaved / poorly programmed
apps?". Yes, it is, of course! But there are ways for the programmer to
get around it: must be, because otherwise you couldn't write hardware
drivers, for example. But also for common applications there are
functions that are better not used normally, i.e. "hooking" into all
kinds of system processing etc., but which Netscape actually seems to
do. I didn't go into the details of it with any debugging tools, but you
can observe that once you have started Netscape, you will not be able to
change anything with NETSCAPE.EXE any more because it is "locked", i.e.
in use - why?? Certain functions still seem to be "alive" and called by
the OS in the background - and if you kill Netscape in THAT situation
you will get hard system crashes. This is my only explanation for what I
have experienced with Netscape through all the years!

- All this doesn't matter if the program has no errors :-)) And as far
as the technical details mentioned are concerned, NS461 doesn't seem to
be changed, but just less crash prone and thus the negative sides of the
strange design do not show up and the program is really useable - and
that's finally what most users want in the first place!

Greetings,
Cornelis

> Can you pinpoint when Netscape hangs?  Are you loading something
> particular?  Does it involve activation of sound?
>
> I'm wondering whether you don't have a problem with a) bad or
> corrupted video drivers, b) bad Netscape and/or plugin pack
> installation, c) incorrectly set Netscape cache, d) swap file too
> small, e) bad sound card or MMOS2 installation!
>
> George
>

I would suspect all these things as being possible causes for trouble,
but some of the reasons why crashes end so badly are definitely within
Netscape, I would say!


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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                22-Oct-99 10:32:12
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: PMMail 2.1?

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hmm...  From what you, James and Ray say, I'll try it again.  I'll
back up 2.0 first just in case and try installing over it.  Thanks
everyone!
Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          22-Oct-99 17:03:06
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Modems (again?)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

Hi guys,

This has probably been covered before but I'm looking to
buy a new modem and install this one in  another machine.
I'm thinking of getting an external one this time because all
the internal ones I can find are PCI WinModems. Anyway,
if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT
and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will
also work with OS/2?

I'm sure the answer is yes but before I run out and lay down
my cash I'd like to be double sure :-)

Any pointers wil be appreciated.

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 22-Oct-99 04:05:01
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:21
Subj: Re: article on open Internet standards, access and future

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>
spake unto us, saying:

>I actually think it's better if spammers cross post instead of posting
>several non cross posted messages to each group.  That way it will be
>marked read in your news reader once you have read it, and won't get it
>multiple times.

Yes, I most certainly agree that crossposting is preferable to multiple
messages in terms of newsserver/newsreader efficiency.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                                  Ni!

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 22-Oct-99 04:08:13
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:21
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>
spake unto us, saying:

>This has probably been covered before but I'm looking to
>buy a new modem and install this one in  another machine.
>I'm thinking of getting an external one this time because all
>the internal ones I can find are PCI WinModems.

Also, the pretty lights can be useful.  :-)

>Anyway, if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98,
>NT and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will also
>work with OS/2?

Probably.  I suspect most external modems which connect via a serial
port are likely to be real modems.  The only external "software modem"
I'm aware of uses a USB connection.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
              (W)indows,(I)cons,(M)ice,(P)ointers,(S)heesh!

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From: clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk                        22-Oct-99 13:05:13
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:22
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: "Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk>

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:56:02 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

:>Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been 
:>more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),


I noticed the move the PS/2 mice coincided with the Internet Boom and thus
(for 99% of users) modems...

Also, has IBM's hold over the PS/2 spec timed out or something...


,c.



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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           22-Oct-99 08:43:00
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:25
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <jnlargxonggarwc.fk0vtc0.pminews@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp>, on 10/22/99 at
05:03 PM,
   "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> said:

> Hi guys,

> This has probably been covered before but I'm looking to
> buy a new modem and install this one in  another machine.
> I'm thinking of getting an external one this time because all the
> internal ones I can find are PCI WinModems. Anyway, if it says on the
> box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT and Macintosh does that mean
> it's a real modem and will also work with OS/2?

Probably. Perhaps even Likely. However, I have seen at least two modems
which require a driver be loaded in DOS and which therefore will not work
with OS/2.

If the modem is an external and there is no "installation" software
included, then it should work with OS/2. I would stick with Zoom or 3COM
(US Robotics). Either of those fine companies will tell you whether the
model number of the modem is a real modem or a winmodem. And both likely
will still be around if you need support or an upgrade, etc. next year.

> I'm sure the answer is yes but before I run out and lay down my cash I'd
> like to be double sure :-)

A few weeks ago I would have agreed immediately. Now, however, one must be
really cautious as some clone vendors apparently are including DOS drivers
for winmodems.


> Any pointers wil be appreciated.

> Cheers

> Wayne


> ******************************************************
> Wayne Bickell
> Tokyo, Japan
> wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
> ******************************************************

WHOOPS! You must be very careful here. As I recall, Japan has a somewhat
different phone system which requires special modems and/or special setup
of the NVRAM. 

I logged onto 3COM's website (www.3com.com) and they do have a Japanese
homepage. Unfortunately, that page is not in English and I cannot tell
what they offer there. Hopefully you can, being as how you are in Tokyo.

--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           22-Oct-99 08:53:09
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:25
Subj: Re: 2ND UPDATE [Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <5A143EAA54D3C149.E4DC82C9AF286A94.261047EA9FCD9AB6@lp.airnews.net>, on
10/22/99 at 12:50 AM,
   Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:


> I backed up my config.sys file then eliminated all references to
> IBMCOBOL in the file and re-booted and VIOLA.  But now I am without my
> livelihood tool.

> What I thought about doing is going back and putting back one item at a
> time until I come across the offending line/lines. There are about 60
> lines in that file that reference IBMCOBOL.

> Should this be reported to IBM as a defect in the VA COBOL
> install program?  But, then, what good would it do.  And they would
> probably want to charge me for making the report.

IIRC, Netscape must be the first entry in the LIBPATH and PATH lines. I
would try adding the COBOL stuff AFTER the dot semicolon string. I have
included the first part of my config.sys lines to demonstrate what I mean.
IIRC, Netscape and Java (1.0 or 1.1) will not work unless they too are
before the .;.

LIBPATH=H:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM;H:\JAVA11\DLL;H:\JAVAOS2\DLL;.;D:\BA2PRO; SET
PATH=H:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM;H:\JAVA11\BIN;H:\JAVAOS2\BIN;.;I:\VT\SPC



--
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: pvolsted@image.dk                                 22-Oct-99 14:33:27
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:25
Subj: Re: Help please

From: peter volsted <pvolsted@image.dk>

hi

> Cecilio Mendez wrote:

> Sorry by my English.
> I have a serious problem with a Os2 Warp 3. It is the third time that when
> boot  the system display this message "The line Set runwork place in
> config.sys canït begin" and the system hangs. I have to format the hard disk
> and install os2 and tcpip, but two weeks later happen another time.

(T)edit config.sys and remove the space so it becomes runworkplace.
The line in my config.sys is: SET RUNWORKPLACE=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE

good  luck

peter

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                22-Oct-99 08:58:27
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:25
Subj: Re: 2ND UPDATE [Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>


Bob Germer wrote:

> On <5A143EAA54D3C149.E4DC82C9AF286A94.261047EA9FCD9AB6@lp.airnews.net>, on
> 10/22/99 at 12:50 AM,
>    Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:
>
> > I backed up my config.sys file then eliminated all references to
> > IBMCOBOL in the file and re-booted and VIOLA.  But now I am without my
> > livelihood tool.
>
> > What I thought about doing is going back and putting back one item at a
> > time until I come across the offending line/lines. There are about 60
> > lines in that file that reference IBMCOBOL.
>
> > Should this be reported to IBM as a defect in the VA COBOL
> > install program?  But, then, what good would it do.  And they would
> > probably want to charge me for making the report.
>
> IIRC, Netscape must be the first entry in the LIBPATH and PATH lines. I
> would try adding the COBOL stuff AFTER the dot semicolon string. I have
> included the first part of my config.sys lines to demonstrate what I mean.
> IIRC, Netscape and Java (1.0 or 1.1) will not work unless they too are
> before the .;.
>
> LIBPATH=H:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM;H:\JAVA11\DLL;H:\JAVAOS2\DLL;.;D:\BA2PRO; SET
> PATH=H:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM;H:\JAVA11\BIN;H:\JAVAOS2\BIN;.;I:\VT\SPC
>
> --
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
> Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
> Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
> MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
> Aut Pax Aut Bellum
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------

Netscape was already the first entries in those lines with the
"." entry immediately following the Netscape entries.  There was
something else that the VA COBOL install hosed--probably TCP/IP.


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From: danki@eunet.yu                                    22-Oct-99 13:46:14
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Latest version of os2??!!

From: "Grunt" <danki@eunet.yu>

I am interested in finding out which is the latest version of OS2
Warp!!!!?????




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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          22-Oct-99 14:19:14
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:03:12, "Wayne Bickell" 
<wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:

:if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT
:and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will
:also work with OS/2?

 Yes.

-- 
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          22-Oct-99 14:03:29
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <pSKGC2YPsbY6-pn2-iGFlTKhyFZxc@cc185270-a.burl1.nj.home.com>
	   gczerw@home.No-Spam.com "George Czerw" writes:

> [...]
>
> I'm wondering whether you don't have a problem with a) bad or
> corrupted video drivers, [...]

Funny you should mention the video drivers.

I have sudden hangs and slowdowns with NS/2 2.02 980630, though
this has been largely true of most NS/2 versions here.  As has
been reported in earlier discussions, keeping cache (and history)
cleaned out regularly does seem to help.

But I also find the system sometimes locks solid (ie, hardware
reboot needed) during and leaving VDOS sessions where the DOS
app switches display modes.  This began several driver versions
ago.  Now one particular card game causes this a lot.  It used to
be worse before I upgraded the drivers of my Matrox Millennium to
2.31.100; now I wonder if the card also needs an upgrade, as I am
still at 3.0 BIOS.
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            22-Oct-99 14:30:09
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: UPDATE:  Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <23750B94C7B53C30.16E54C4D1114427D.4450AA993E477A8A@lp.airnews.net>, Dale
Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> writes:
>mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:


>> All with a batch file...
>> 
>> Oh .. the new version 4.16 doesn't like a double dose of:
>> 
>>       -len_US
>> 
>> If you call it in your CMD file, I think you'll have to take it out of
>> your session commands.  If you leave it there, you can't call it in the
>> batch file.   I have had double doses of this produce SYS3175 errors..
>
>What do you mean by "take it out of your session commands?"
>-- 
>Dale Erwin

OH!  If you right click on any program Icon, you will see a menu
dropdown.  It starts off with the first choice "Open as."  Right below
that is a choice called "Properties."  Click on that.  That opens up a
folder which has the name of the program in it, the optional parameters
which you may tell OS/2 to use during the opening of the program, and
the working path.

I guess my use of the term "Session Commands" was technically correct,
but is more often seen in the DOS-VDM Icons, not pure OS/2!   Chuckle.
I do a LOT still with DOS so I'm conditioned, like Pavlov's dog.

The optional parameters are what we used to call "Command Line
Parameters" in good ole' character based opsystem work, grin.  In my new
version of Netscape Gamma, it has the above "Properties" of -len_US in
it.  I discovered that if I ran Netscape from a CMD line in a CMD file
and appended that to my command line as "Command Line Parameters", plus
left it in the "Properties" field of the folder ...  SYS3175 on opening
the program, but not all the time!

It is obvious that we need -len_US as calling parameters.  Thus I reason
I have to use them in any command line instance of trying to run the
program, if there is no Icon any longer which hosts the program on the
desktop!

Since I have renamed the "Program" that this CMD file is named, in my
case NCD.CMD and the Icon no longer calls "Netscape", but calls this
NCD.CMD, if I leave the -len_US in the "Properties", I am, appending
these parameters twice.  They are appended once to the CMD file and once
to the program call in the CMD file.

For some reason, that produces SYS3175 errors.

I'm not exactly sure why this should cause a SYS3175 error, unless the
SYS3175 isn't being cause by Netscape, in this case, but by NISTIME,
which is the first program executed by the batch file.  I'll confess, in
working with this stuff since 1974, I've never even thought about using
calling parameters with a batch file itself!  I can't visualize how the
computer would execute every program in that batch file with these
calling parameters, but maybe it does.  Further, it may be that OS/2 has
even a different 'view' of calling parameters which might be used in
passing this or that to any instances of programs in a CMD file, than
DOS has in batch files!!

Anyway, when I yanked the parameters out of the Icon, it works.

That said, I'll note something else.  Of course Netscape can layer more
than one instance of itself from the original execution, I think.  I
would supppose that is how it opens a new page of itself if you click on
that in the upper left hand corner.  That must also be the way it acts
when a new instance of itself magically appears and treats you to a
wonderful new advertising blurb on top of what you are trying to do.
Spilled java, I guess.

As well, if you have it open in the CMD line version, and execute a
second instance of it with an auto-loader, such as the "Click-on-this"
URL in a Post Road Mailer message, you are, of course, executing not
Netscape, but the CMD file again, in this method of operation.

You need to be aware that in doing that, if you are asking your favorite
editor to open the cookies file for your inspection, on exit from
Netscape, you may be, under certain timing circumstance, asking it to
open that same file twice!  Of course, a double load of a file can also
produce sharing violation problems.  I think, based upon my experience
with this, that this is another way I've seen SYS3175 errors produced.
I very seldom am trapped into multiple loads of Netscape in the way I
use it. Your use of it may be different.

The use of the batch file stunt to syncronize the computer with NAVY MIL
doesn't seem to have any problems if the cookies file is manipulated in
some way other than by a cascaded raw editor that can accidentally wham
it twice at the same time this way...

Just notes on all this if you experiment.

We're all trying our best to keep you here!



--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             22-Oct-99 09:31:25
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 23:15:41 GMT, Stewart Honsberger wrote:

>A man whos feet deserves all the kisses of all the beautiful damsels in the
land! (Well, I'm sure I
>could atleast get my friend to do it.. She's pretty cute.)
pity I didn't meet her *before* I got married.


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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         22-Oct-99 14:35:16
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: GAH! Got a Trap error on our print server! Help!

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:31:50 -0500 (CDT), Scott E. Garfinkle wrote:
>>A man whos feet deserves all the kisses of all the beautiful damsels in the
>>land! (Well, I'm sure I could atleast get my friend to do it.. She's pretty
>>cute.)

>pity I didn't meet her *before* I got married.

That's ok.. She doesn't mind. :>

So - does this mean there's any chance of my problem being resolved?

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: quasimodo@notre.dame.paris                        22-Oct-99 11:55:11
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: "Paul M. Pilon" <quasimodo@notre.dame.paris>

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:03:12 +0800, Wayne Bickell wrote:

>Hi guys,
>
>This has probably been covered before but I'm looking to
>buy a new modem and install this one in  another machine.
>I'm thinking of getting an external one this time because all
>
>Any pointers wil be appreciated.
>
>Cheers
>
>Wayne
>
>
>******************************************************
>Wayne Bickell
>Tokyo, Japan
>wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp

Wayne:

	While I realize that your preference is for an external because of
problems you had finding an internal modem, rest assured that internal modems
can be found.  I purchased a 56k USR Sporster modem earlier this year which
is jumpered and fully configurable under OS/2.  It works just fine, but it is
manufactured by USRobotics as an OEM piece of equipment, so you have to make
sure that your dealer will replace it if it is defective.

	In case this sparks your interest, the part numbers for this modem
are as follows:

		1. 3COM sticker on static bag:
			3COM P/N: 80-661748-81
			OEM PYTHON DT/FX/VOICE V.90
		2.  Sticker on Modem:
			22O2B1C9790U80-661749-81 R:2




**************************************************************
"I have the male 'work avoidance chromosome'.
I can detect unnecessary work, thereby avoiding it."
-- Dilbert

Paul M. Pilon
Halifax, NS Canada
redpilon@redfox.rednstn.ca
To reply, get rid of the 3 "red"s .
**************************************************************


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           22-Oct-99 15:14:29
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: Latest version of os2??!!

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:46:29, "Grunt" <danki@eunet.yu> wrote:

> I am interested in finding out which is the latest version of OS2
> Warp!!!!?????
> 
The latest version of the OS/2 Warp client is Warp 4.

The latest fixpack for that version is Fixpack 12

The latest version of Warp Server is Warp Server 
for e-Business (AKA Warp 4.5)

Lorne Sunley

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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             22-Oct-99 08:38:23
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: Sending Binary Files via sendmail?

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


bosmith wrote:
> 
> I am running Warp v3.0 with the IBM TCPIP stack.  I use sendmail to
> email text reports to users and it works quite well.  I now have a need
> to send a binary file (an Excel spreadsheet) and find that sendmail
> won't deliver it properly.
> 
> Can anybody suggest a way to get this done outside of manually mailing
> the report?

I probably do not understand the question, here, but why can't you just
send the spreadsheet as an email attachment?

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From: djohnson@isomedia.com                             22-Oct-99 08:51:20
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: OS/2  PCI Modem

From: "David T. Johnson" <djohnson@isomedia.com>


Wayne Bickell wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> This has probably been covered before but I'm looking to
> buy a new modem and install this one in  another machine.
> I'm thinking of getting an external one this time because all
> the internal ones I can find are PCI WinModems. Anyway,
> if it says on the box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT
> and Macintosh does that mean it's a real modem and will
> also work with OS/2?
> 
> I'm sure the answer is yes but before I run out and lay down
> my cash I'd like to be double sure :-)
> 
Actiontec has an internal 56K PCI call-waiting modem that comes with
OS/2 software and sells for $104.99.  More info at:

http://www.actiontec.com/products/modems/cwi/index.html

They also have an external 56K modem.

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From: oliver.rick@oor.de                                21-Oct-99 23:13:10
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: Re: Java compiler talks german

From: oliver.rick@oor.de (Oliver Rick)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 Thomas Kellerer wrote:

> some time ago (I think it was the update to 1.1.6) my java compiler
> started talking german to me (I have a german OS/2). Now I downloaded
> the 1.1.8 and I'm sure that I downloaded the english version.
> Installation went fine and everything is running. The only thing that
> really bothers me: the compiler keeps talking german to me and I hate
> the german error messages. Any ideas on how to change that (apart from
> not making any errors :-)

Maybe SET LANG=EN_US instead of SET LANG=DE_DE helps?

Selber Schuld, warum benutzt Du kein (US-)englisches Warp? ;-)

   /Olli/
--
IBM OS/2 Warp Update Summary:
http://www.warpupdates.de/english/warpupdates.html

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From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com                           22-Oct-99 18:19:24
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:03:58, ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew 
Stephenson) wrote:

> In article <pSKGC2YPsbY6-pn2-iGFlTKhyFZxc@cc185270-a.burl1.nj.home.com>
> 	   gczerw@home.No-Spam.com "George Czerw" writes:
> 
> > [...]
> >
> > I'm wondering whether you don't have a problem with a) bad or
> > corrupted video drivers, [...]
> 
> Funny you should mention the video drivers.
> 
> I have sudden hangs and slowdowns with NS/2 2.02 980630, though
> this has been largely true of most NS/2 versions here.  As has
> been reported in earlier discussions, keeping cache (and history)
> cleaned out regularly does seem to help.
> 
> But I also find the system sometimes locks solid (ie, hardware
> reboot needed) during and leaving VDOS sessions where the DOS
> app switches display modes.  This began several driver versions
> ago.  Now one particular card game causes this a lot.  It used to
> be worse before I upgraded the drivers of my Matrox Millennium to
> 2.31.100; now I wonder if the card also needs an upgrade, as I am
> still at 3.0 BIOS.
> --
> Andrew Stephenson
> 

Somehow I think that I recall seeing somewhere in the newsgroups, that
the 2.31 drivers were problematic.  Prerhaps a BIOS and driver upgrade
is in order.

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      22-Oct-99 22:36:27
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: Re: 2 questions.....

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <7uq2i8$3t7$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  meson2000@my-deja.com wrote:

> 1) Does the java version of ICQ run under
> OS/2???? If not, is there a version of ICQ
> that I can get to run under OS/2???

Yes and Yes. The java version works great, and there is a new native
port available (not from Mirabilas(sp)).

http://members.home.com/momotek/icq2/index.html

> 2) I have a Promise Ultra66 IDE controller card
> and Ultra66 hard drive running under windows98. I am switching
> back to OS/2. I checked the promise web page and
> they don't have an OS/2 driver yet. Has anyone heard
> anything about when (or if) there is going to be
> a driver released?? Or is there any other 3rd party
> driver that I might be able to use instead??
> I have emailed promise but they have not gotten back
> to me yet.

Yep, you'll have no problems. In order to get ATA66 performance, you'll
need the Danis506.add drivers from hobbes:

ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/new/danis506.zip

Unzip and read the documentation(!). Very well written driver!! :)

Good luck, and welcome back!

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          23-Oct-99 07:08:03
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: Re: Modems (again?)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

Thanks Bob,

I was thinking of buying a locally made product (Toshiba or Omrom)
From the box I see a couple of them have Rockwell chipsets (The
one I'm using now does too but it's a 33,600bps) I guess they've 
started making drivers for NT too but I was sure I'd be safe if it would 
also work with a Mac. I'll confirm with the sales staff and make sure I
can return it if it doesn't work.

Cheers

Wayne


On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:43:00 -0400, Bob Germer wrote:

:>On <jnlargxonggarwc.fk0vtc0.pminews@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp>, on 10/22/99 at
:>05:03 PM,
:>   "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> said:
:>
:>> Hi guys,
:>
:>> This has probably been covered before but I'm looking to
:>> buy a new modem and install this one in  another machine.
:>> I'm thinking of getting an external one this time because all the
:>> internal ones I can find are PCI WinModems. Anyway, if it says on the
:>> box that it works with DOS, Win 95, 98, NT and Macintosh does that mean
:>> it's a real modem and will also work with OS/2?
:>
:>Probably. Perhaps even Likely. However, I have seen at least two modems
:>which require a driver be loaded in DOS and which therefore will not work
:>with OS/2.
:>
:>If the modem is an external and there is no "installation" software
:>included, then it should work with OS/2. I would stick with Zoom or 3COM
:>(US Robotics). Either of those fine companies will tell you whether the
:>model number of the modem is a real modem or a winmodem. And both likely
:>will still be around if you need support or an upgrade, etc. next year.
:>
:>> I'm sure the answer is yes but before I run out and lay down my cash I'd
:>> like to be double sure :-)
:>
:>A few weeks ago I would have agreed immediately. Now, however, one must be
:>really cautious as some clone vendors apparently are including DOS drivers
:>for winmodems.
:>
:>
:>> Any pointers wil be appreciated.
:>
:>> Cheers
:>
:>> Wayne
:>
:>
:>> ******************************************************
:>> Wayne Bickell
:>> Tokyo, Japan
:>> wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
:>> ******************************************************
:>
:>WHOOPS! You must be very careful here. As I recall, Japan has a somewhat
:>different phone system which requires special modems and/or special setup
:>of the NVRAM. 
:>
:>I logged onto 3COM's website (www.3com.com) and they do have a Japanese
:>homepage. Unfortunately, that page is not in English and I cannot tell
:>what they offer there. Hopefully you can, being as how you are in Tokyo.
:>
:>--
:>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
:>Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
:>Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
:>MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
:>Aut Pax Aut Bellum
:>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: dmckenn@ibm.net                                   22-Oct-99 19:23:22
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: Re: 2ND UPDATE [Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@ibm.net>

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:50:59 -0400, Dale Erwin wrote:

>
>I am posting this message from Netscape version 4.61, but I am not
>sure congratulations are in order yet.
>
>I backed up my config.sys file then eliminated all references to
>IBMCOBOL in the file and re-booted and VIOLA.  But now I am without my
livelihood
>tool.
>
>What I thought about doing is going back and putting back one
>item at a time until I come across the offending line/lines.
>There are about 60 lines in that file that reference IBMCOBOL.
>
>Should this be reported to IBM as a defect in the VA COBOL
>install program?  But, then, what good would it do.  And they
>would probably want to charge me for making the report.
>
   Dale,

  Well, at least you're getting somewhere. Definitely try putting one entry
at a time back in to determine which one causes the problem. It may simply be
a matter of putting the entries in specific positions on each line.

   Any line you removed which has *only* entries for COBOL (except for
Device= lines) is most likely not the problem so I would just put all those
back in. Concentrate on lines COBOL put entries in which have other paths as
well. When you get to the offending entry, experiment with its' position on
that line. Also look in the directory at the files therein. It's possible
there is a file in that directory which is the same as another file elsewhere
on your system. OS/2 will use the one in the directory first in line. From
the command prompt in the root directory type 'dir xxxxx.yyy /s' where
xxxxx.yyy is a file in the offending directory. This will list all instances
of that file on your drive. If more than one show up look at the directory
listed on the one(s) not in the offending COBOL directory. This will give you
a clue as to which path entry you need to place COBOL entries around.

   You might as well report this to both the IBM Netscape team and the VA
COBOL people - they may already know how to deal with it and could help you
out. Even if they don't, your effort to get everything working may help
someone else with the same difficulty.

   Keep us posted!

Dave McKenna


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From: tulloch@modempool.com                             22-Oct-99 19:24:21
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: FS: Fully equipped Server95

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From: jan.eri@protector-group.no                        22-Oct-99 23:47:13
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: Re: java icq & ibm lava 1.1.8

From: jan.eri@protector-group.no (Jan Eri)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:36:09, "Rodney D. Myers" <Bill.Bob@deceptionPC.com> 
wrote:
> is anyone experiencing trouble getting icq (java) to run with ibm java
1.1.8?
> it was working before I upgraded to 1.1.8. now I don't get anything.

Seems my experience is opposite from the others: I had lockups and trouble 
before 1.1.8, but now everything is perfect.

Jan
----------------------------------
Jan Eri -- Protector AS -- Norway
Work: http://www.protector-group.no
Priv: http://home.eunet.no/~jeri/

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From: dmckenn@ibm.net                                   22-Oct-99 19:57:00
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@ibm.net>

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:40:30 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

>For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_
>more valuable than serial ports.  In my experience, most people use 1
>serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another
>available for a mouse.  Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4.
>

  Alex,

  I agree IRQ's are more valuable than serial ports. That is why I always
disable them in the computers' BIOS (unless they are being used). This frees
those IRQ's (3 and 4) for other uses. It has been at least 4 years since I
have seen a BIOS that does not allow disabling the COM ports (I admit I
haven't seen them all :-).

   Why not use the PS/2 mouse, and disable one of the COM ports for the IRQ?

Dave McKenna


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