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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      16-Oct-99 10:18:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: Really no "mount/2" to use image files like drives ?

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:21:14, Andreas Grosche <ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>
wrote:

> Under Linux, this can be done in a matter of seconds by simply typing e.g.
> "mount /dos/hdc6.img /warp -t hpfs -o loop=/dev/loop3".
>  
> This means the loop device /dev/loop3 will be set up to correspond to the
> partition image file /dos/hdc6.img (i.e. the copy of an entire partition)
> which is then mounted as an HPFS file system at the mount point /warp.
>  
> The effect is that a drive (for DOS or OS/2, in the sense of partition)
> that is used as E:, for example, and could also be mounted under Linux by
> "mount /dev/hdc6 /warp -t hpfs",
> can now removed (e.g. if the hard disk fails) not just without losing any
> of the data, but also allowing the continued operation (after just
> one simple command) which is fully transparent to all applications.

Hmm.. this is a useful way of using the mount command. I'll keep that in mind 
next time I'm "playing" around with the Linux server at home when adding some 
old but useful HDs that might fail :)




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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              15-Oct-99 19:21:28
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes (reprise)

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

The EA DATA. SF file is accessed by a index from the directory entry. It
can be fragmented and de-fragmented to your hearts content without
breaking it. The weak point is the index in the directory entry. If this
is altered by something which doesn't understand it (wilfully or
accidentally), then you get orphaned or cross-linked EAs.

I'm wondering if you used some utility to change the cluster size on
this drive? Each EA in EA DATA. SF uses an intergral number of clusters,
usually just 1. If you change the cluster size with something which
doesn't update the EA DATA. SF file *and* the directory entries
correctly, you will stuff a large number of EAs for good. Backing the
drive up and restoring it with a non-OS/2 program, especially if the
cluster size was different when restored will also ensure problems!

Graham.

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From: Jan-Adolf_Looden@t-online.de                      16-Oct-99 16:04:04
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: Backup with CD-R

From: Jan-Adolf Looden <Jan-Adolf_Looden@t-online.de>

I use for backup RSJ CD-Writer, BackAgain/2 and an Plexwriter 8/20 
CD-R Drive and it works together. The only thing that you must keep in 
mind is, that you must have so much space on the drive where the 
Temp-Directory of RSJ is located, as the Data of the Backup will be.
The reason is, that RSJ will not earlier begin to burn the data on the 
CD, until BackAgain has accomplished his work.

Jan

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ursprngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Am 13.10.99, 19.27.21, schrieb isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog) 
zum Thema Backup with CD-R:


> I'm going to (finally!) spring for a backup system soon, and I'd
> appreciate feedback on pitfalls, etc. CD-R/CD-RW's seem to be the most
> cost-effective way to go.

> I'm planning the following:
> -Tekram 390F SCSI adapter
> -Yamaha 4416 or 6416 CD-RW drive (or perhaps just a plain CD-R) SCSI
> -RSJ CD-Writer
> -BackAgain/2
> (Yes, one expensive package, I know. But it will be used for more than
> just backup)

> Will this setup be okay? Especially if I have to span multiple CD's?
> Is there a cheaper, but just as reliable, setup?


> Thanks,
> Isaac



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From: nredinger@aol.com                                 16-Oct-99 17:33:11
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes (reprise)

From: nredinger@aol.com (NRedinger)

In article <38076A5D.7FC09904@erols.com>, Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>
writes:

>Finally, is there a utility which will reattach extended attributes from
>EA*.CHK files to the directory entries of the files.

Yes. . . It's called "EAUTIL.EXE" and should be in the "\OS2" directory on
your
OS2 boot partition.  See the OS/2 "Command Reference" for details and syntax
info.

Better yet, search Hobbes and / or other sources for "EAB203.ZIP" (or later,
if
available).  Here's the description (somewhat terse) of what that provides:

" EAB203.ZIP
 
      Eabackup and Earestore 

      Version 2.03

      94/11/04

      EABACKUP and EARESTOR are utility programs designed to backup and
restore
extended attributes associated 
 with OS/2 files.  The programs are run from the command line in either an
OS/2
windowed or OS/2 full-screen 
 session."

I've found the EABackUp and EARestor utilities to be invaluable in saving and
reconstructing extended attributes on FAT partitions.  They will also work on
HPFS partitions, although that's not usually necessary.  (The best solution,
as
you've indicated you are aware, is to hide your OS/2 partition from the
vagaries of Win 98 by converting it to HPFS.  But I understand from my own
experience there can be valid reasons for not doing that.)  Just be sure to
thoroughly read the "ReadMe.Doc" file included in the EAB203.Zip package.  If
you can't locate the archive file (I don't remember for certain, but it may be
"IBM Employee Written Software"), contact me by e-mail and I'll send it to
you.

Finally. . .  the replies you received from Rob Burton and Graham Norris in
this thread are, in my opinion, both accurate and pertinent.  There's little I
could add except to say that I've defragmented the "EA DATA. SF" files on my
FAT partitions hundreds, perhaps thousands, of times over the years I've been
using OS/2 (since the day ver. 2.0 was released) without damaging them. 
That's
not to say that I've not "killed" them by other means, however. . . DOS based
backup and restore software is almost always problematic, especially if one is
repartitioning, reformatting and restoring without using an "EA aware" disk
management utility such as Partition Magic.  I suspect the problem with Win 98
may be that it's trying to assign a "Windows Long FileName" attribute to every
file it finds and moves in it's "automatic disk defragmentation and
performance
optimization mode".  But that's just speculation on my part.

Nick Redinger

(NRedinger@aol.com)

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From: wilson3@my-deja.com                               17-Oct-99 10:04:07
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 10:24:05
Subj: Re: OS/2 disk crash and data recovery

From: wilson3@my-deja.com

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In article <3802265F.30F4@cyburban.com>,
  dmcw@cyburban.com wrote:
> We run OS/2 supporting a P390 mainframe.
> We had a drive crash and now OS/2 reports the drive which had 20 gig
of
> space as empty!
> This is after a CHKDSK /f
> Are there any data recovery companies that can salvage the data, or
any
> utilities that can do what CHKDSK could not do?
>
> Please copy reply to private email deleting 'w' from the email address
> to reply. Thanks.
>

--
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http://www.adv-data.com


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From: nate@lcs.mit.edu                                  17-Oct-99 15:19:17
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: Support for new 1.3 Gb Fujitsu MO drive??:  Yes - in FAT format

From: nate@lcs.mit.edu (Nathan Liskov)

With some hints from Mike Reichel, I now have my 1.3 Gb drive working 
in superfloppy (FAT) format with the Fujitsu driver and my 640 Mb 
drive working in HPFS with the n512dasd.flt and os2dasd.dmd drivers.  
The relevant lines from my config.sys are:

DEVICE=E:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q      
device=e:\os2\boot\modisk.sys /I0:6[1]  
basedev=n512dasd.flt /v /!6             
BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD /of                                               
         
ifs=f:\drivers\ramfs.ifs                
run=d:\u2\ramdisk.exe u:  
device=os2aspi.dmd /all

My 1.3 Gb is SCSI 6 on controller 0.  The /I0:6[1] switch on the 
fujitsu driver says to apply the driver only to the SCSI 6 device on 
controller 0.  The /!6 switch on N512dasd.flt says to ignore the SCSI 
6 device.  The /all parameter on os2aspi.dmd was necessary to get both
drivers working at the same time.

The modisk.sys driver wants to assign a drive letter that is one 
higher than the last allocated drive.  Thus it is necessary to call 
modisk.sys after os2cdrom to avoid conflict with the cdrom.  Also, I 
moved ramdisk on letter up to avoid conflict.  My drive letters now 
are as follows:

	p:	last hard drive partition
	q:	640 mb mo drive
	r:	not assigned
	s:	cdrom
	t:	1.3 gb mo drive
	u:	hpfs ramdisk

I think that the /!6 switch in n512dasd causes the letter r to be 
skipped.

	nate liskov

p.s. if and when  os2dasd.dmd is extended to work with the 1.3 gb 
drive, i will drop modisk.sys and operate HPFS on the 1.3 gb drive.



On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:12:28, nate@lcs.mit.edu (Nathan Liskov) wrote:

> I took the plunge and go the MCD3130SS 1.3 Gb internal SCSI MO drive. 
> 
> 
> Using the drivers below, the 1.3 Gb drive is not recognized.  Using 
> the Fujitsu driver modisk.sys (while reming out n512dasd.flt and 
> dropping the parameters on os2dasd), the 1.3 Gb is recognized but my 
> 640 is not and only FAT is supported.   All my MOs are HPFS and I 
> would prefer to continue that way.
> 
> 	Nate Liskov
> 

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From: baden@interchange.ubc.ca                          17-Oct-99 18:56:15
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Re: fdisk can't read partition table on larger drive (3GB)

From: baden@interchange.ubc.ca    (Baden Kudrenecky)

Hi Mike:

   I had a similar problem on one computer, as Win95 corrupted
the partition table by writing Boot Manger over the first C:
drive partition and I got around it without reformatting with
Partition Magic.  First I deleted the Boot Manage partition from
Win95, then I booted OS/2 from floppy and ran PQMagicd to
re-size the Win 95 partition so I had about 50 MB at the disc
front.  I then booted OS/2 from floppy again, and "fdisk"ed in a
new Boot Manager.

baden


In <7u5ef8$nud$2@news.junction.net>, "Michael Shillingford"
<mshill@elkvalley.net> writes:
>Am trying to install warp 3 and 4 on a new system that has a 3GB drive that
>has been partitioned by Win95B into:
>C: Primary 976 MB Fat  Win95
>D: Extended 1024 MB Fat
>E: Extended 1020 MB Fat
>
>On install, both Warps fdisk program reports that the partition table
>appears to be corrupted, showing only:
>C: primary 976 fat
>? 2044 MB unknown
>
>I can delete both the partitions using warps fdisk, but then I can't create
>any new ones - the fdisk menus options are all disabled. Have exited fdisk
>without saving since I don't want to remove the first (C) partition, just
>install warp on the extended partitions.
>Using WD Caviar 3020MB IDE drive, 6136 Cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors, LBA
>mode, PIO 4, Blockmode 16 sec, 32bit mode off.
>IDE controller is VXPro-II PC82371
>
>

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                17-Oct-99 14:45:20
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Yet another HPFS info update

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

After modifying the hpfssi.exe program to read from the drive directly, to
overcome the 2GB limitation of OS/2's file access API's on non-HPFS386
systems, the wrong sector was being read in a few rare cases.

Well, I finally figured out why, and corrected the program.  Part of the
BIOS parameter block is the hidden sector count, which specifies how many
sectors there are before the boot sector, which is considered the first
sector on the drive.  This is the same for the vast majority of drives,
but it can be different, which is what was causing the failure.

The new version, which should handle any HPFS drive (really, this time, I
mean it) is here:

http://home.att.net/~thanny/hpfssi.zip

Also with it are these:

http://home.att.net/~thanny/dumpsect.zip
http://home.att.net/~thanny/sectdata.zip

The second program should write your HPFS SuperBlock to a file called
sectdata.dat.  The third is an example of what the data should look like. 




 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     17-Oct-99 13:04:28
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: Re-partitioning & FS's Was Re: HPFS386 big problem

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:51:29 +0100, Tony Wright wrote:

->1. Although I'm using boot disks (from FP9), and similarly invoking
->PMAGICOT.EXE + using latest IDEDASD drivers it is therefore on a >8Gb
->IDE drive and not SCSI (as I suspect you are using?).

I would also make sure that you do not have IBMINT13.I13 loading in the
config.sys on your boot diskettes. I've seen times where it decides to use
that instead of the real driver for your disk (eg, IBM1S506.ADD) even when
there is one there to use. IBMINT13.I13 will limit you to BIOS support
only...


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: jdparker@erols.com                                17-Oct-99 19:57:27
  To: norrisg@linkline.com                              18-Oct-99 03:19:21
Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes (reprise)

To: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>
From: Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>

"Graham C. Norris" wrote:

> The EA DATA. SF file is accessed by a index from the directory entry. It
> can be fragmented and de-fragmented to your hearts content without
> breaking it.

How do you know this? The documentation (an old OS/2 2.1 book) I have does
not say whether it is a pointer directly to the cluster containing the EA or
a pointer relative to the start of the EA file (or an index as you put it).
I've seen OS/2 defragmenters on Hobbes. Is it possible that you are using
one of these and it is EA aware and it is making the necessary adjustments?
A Win98 defragger would not be EA aware and thus would not make the
adjustments. The pattern of losing EAs fits so neatly with a EA unaware
defragger that I am not willing to give it up without some concrete
evidence.

The reason I'm looking for utilities to show file to cluster allocation and
dump directory entries is to confirm or contradict my suspicion. If I dumped
the EA DATA. SF file and some directory entries I could tell whether the
pointers were an index or not. If the cluster allocation of EA DATA. SF
changed consistent with a defragmentation effort and the directory entries
did not change, that would suggest that a defragmenter caused the problem.
If the directory entries changed but the cluster allocation did not change
this would suggest it was not a defragger.

> The weak point is the index in the directory entry. If this
> is altered by something which doesn't understand it (wilfully or
> accidentally), then you get orphaned or cross-linked EAs.

If this is what is happening, a dump of the directory entries might suggest
what kind of directory entry alteration is taking place and that might lead
to the culprit.

>
>
> I'm wondering if you used some utility to change the cluster size on
> this drive? Each EA in EA DATA. SF uses an intergral number of clusters,
> usually just 1. If you change the cluster size with something which
> doesn't update the EA DATA. SF file *and* the directory entries
> correctly, you will stuff a large number of EAs for good. Backing the
> drive up and restoring it with a non-OS/2 program, especially if the
> cluster size was different when restored will also ensure problems!

The only such utilities that I've used are PowerQuest's Partition Magic and
Drive Image. Both should be EA aware. In fact one of my FAT partitions was
backed up using Drive Image. Just prior to restoring it from a Drive Image
image file the partition had about 3M of extended attirbutes. After
restoration it had 13M, check disk showed no lost extended attibutes and
icons looked more like what I was used to. I don't think that cluster
resizing is an issue here. I don't do cluster resizing on a daily basis but
I do lose extended attirbutes on (almost) a daily basis if I use Win98.

Prior to suspending the use of Win98, I was running chkdsk on every
partition every time I booted OS/2. If it wasn't clear before: I have
several FAT partitions and a couple of HPFS partitions. My OS/2 boot
partition is FAT. Netscape and Java run on an HPFS partition. All the FAT
partitions have suffered from lost extended attributes while I was running
Win98. None have have suffered lost attributes since I stopped using Win98.
I have not had any difficulties with the HPFS partitions.


>
> Graham.

Thanks
Jim



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From: dmhills@ibm.net                                   18-Oct-99 23:43:02
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes (reprise)

From: dmhills@ibm.net (Don Hills)

In article <380A6281.FDB87F3D@erols.com>, Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>
wrote:
>"Graham C. Norris" wrote:
>
>How do you know this? The documentation (an old OS/2 2.1 book) I have does
>not say whether it is a pointer directly to the cluster containing the EA or
>a pointer relative to the start of the EA file (or an index as you put it).

It's an index. There's another table structure within the EA file that
it points into. You can defrag it safely with a suitable defragger. The
problem with some defraggers, and Microsoft SCANDISK, is that they can
damage the index in the directory entries of the files. The Windows LFN
feature also uses the EA index field as part of its long filename
support and will change it to suit itself.

There is a single hard rule you MUST follow: If you have files that you
want to preserve the EA information for, put them on an HPFS drive (or a
hidden primary partition) so Windows won't see them.

>The reason I'm looking for utilities to show file to cluster allocation and
>dump directory entries is to confirm or contradict my suspicion. If I dumped
>the EA DATA. SF file and some directory entries I could tell whether the
>pointers were an index or not. If the cluster allocation of EA DATA. SF
>changed consistent with a defragmentation effort and the directory entries
>did not change, that would suggest that a defragmenter caused the problem.
>If the directory entries changed but the cluster allocation did not change
>this would suggest it was not a defragger.

A simple experiment:
Add an EA to a file. Copy the file to a blank floppy disk. Check out the
fields with a disk sector editor. Write a couple more files to the
floppy and take another look with the sector editor. Delete the first
file and write a bigger file: the disk is now fragmented. Use it under
Windows and see if the EAs get changed. Run SCANDISK or your defragger
against it and see what happens.

--
Don Hills      (dmhills at ibmdotnet)     Wellington, New Zealand

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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr                            18-Oct-99 08:00:15
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: Re: OS/2 disk crash and data recovery

From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 10:04:15 GMT, wilson3@my-deja.com
<wilson3@my-deja.com> wrote:

[snip]

>If you send it in we can do a free evaluation with no obligation. If
>you call us, we can give you a price estimate. We would have to see the
>drive to give a firm price. Our Diagnostic evaluation is free of any
>obligation to buy our service.
>
>Data recovery info: If your data is worth more than US$100, I would not
>use a disk utility to try and get your data.

[snip]

>We recover from almost ant type of media or operating systems
>including: Damaged Hard Drives (Crashed, Fire, Water, Dropped) Viruses,
>Sabotage, Lost Passwords, Database Recovery, Forensic Data Exam,
>Deleted, Erased, Missing-Files, and Directories. / Network Servers,
>Windows NT, NTFS, Novell, Unix, Raid 0-5, Windows 3.1x / 95 / 98,
>Removable Media, ZIP, JAZ, SyQuest, Bernoulli, Optical Floppy, Laptops
>etc.

>I doubt a successful recovery could be preformed for less than we
>charge. Our prices (includes repair (if necessary) and data recovery)
>are as follows: No price will exceed $1,200 US$(plus parts) for DOS,
>Windows 3.1x, 95, 98 or Macintosh recoveries! Usually if we don't have
>to open the drive it is less than $600. We do recoveries as for as low
>as $95. Other operating systems may cost more depending on complexity.

[snip]

>Advanced Data Solutions LLC http://www.adv-data.com Toll Free USA
>1-888-994-DATA (3282)
>International (619) 336-1400

Is it just me or is HPFS and OS/2 really missing from the list? Their
web site does mention OS/2 but not HPFS. Well, I hope for the original
poster that they can help him. Cheers,  Stefan


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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr                            18-Oct-99 08:01:18
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: Re: Really no "mount/2" to use image files like drives ?

From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)

On 16 Oct 1999 10:18:21 +1000, Khairil Yusof
<mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au> wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:21:14, Andreas Grosche
><ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de> wrote:
>
>> Under Linux, this can be done in a matter of seconds by simply typing
>> e.g. "mount /dos/hdc6.img /warp -t hpfs -o loop=/dev/loop3".
>>  
>> This means the loop device /dev/loop3 will be set up to correspond to
>> the partition image file /dos/hdc6.img (i.e. the copy of an entire
>> partition) which is then mounted as an HPFS file system at the mount
>> point /warp.
>>  
>> The effect is that a drive (for DOS or OS/2, in the sense of
>> partition) that is used as E:, for example, and could also be mounted
>> under Linux by "mount /dev/hdc6 /warp -t hpfs", can now removed (e.g.
>> if the hard disk fails) not just without losing any of the data, but
>> also allowing the continued operation (after just one simple command)
>> which is fully transparent to all applications.
>
>Hmm.. this is a useful way of using the mount command. I'll keep that
>in mind next time I'm "playing" around with the Linux server at home
>when adding some old but useful HDs that might fail :)

Another nice thing is that this way you can verify (fschk) a disk image
before burning it to CD-ROM. For example. Cheers,  Stefan


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From: j.p.besamusca@students.nospam.wa...               18-Oct-99 16:40:28
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: DVD-RAM support?

Message sender: j.p.besamusca@students.nospam.warande.uu.nl

From: "Hans Besamusca" <j.p.besamusca@students.nospam.warande.uu.nl>

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:21:07 +0000, Sven Rogge wrote:

>Hello:
>
>	Will there ever be DVD-RAM support under OS/2? Or are
>people already using DVD-RAMs in some way? 

No not yet (I have read an article in Computer Technik about a few DVD-RAMs),
but you probably know what happened with USB: suddenly there were drivers ...
If new drivers appear, they will be announced at for instance:
http://www.buntspecht.de/news/de/index.html
or
http://www.OS2.org/
and the drivers themselves of course shall appear at:
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm
just wait
Hans

>I know MOs are much 
>safer but DVD-RAM drives are quite cheap and $25 per 5GB
>is a nice way to clean up the hard disks. Any thoughts?
>
>Sven



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From: roenigk@ibm.net                                   18-Oct-99 18:17:17
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: John Roenigk <roenigk@ibm.net>

Ivan,

Same problem here. I began noticing this  after having done some
installations from the WarpUp diskette. At first I thought it was Netscape
and/or Java 1.1.8. After having read a number of these posts, though, it
appeared to be the Fixpak 12. (We have M64GRADD Driver Version 1.00,
Component ID 562107701, Current CSD level: XR03010, Prior CSD level: XR02100
for ATI Mach 64/RageII). Well, I backed out of Fixpak 12 down to 6 (which
has worked brilliantly for us for some time). I also backed out the Device
Driver Fixpak. The problem still persists, however. I've found no solution
offered here in these newsgroups or in Compuserve. I'm really surprised that
the noise about this problem seems to have died back a bit as well. If
anyone has had success ridding their machine(s) of this nuisance, I do hope
they will reply to a message in this thread. Otherwise, it looks like I'm
headed for a fresh reinstall, then Fixpak 6... I don't think the hard drive
can withstand this going on much longer.

John Roenigk, Austin, Texas


Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

> Anyone else noticed this? After applying FP12 to my Warp 4 machine I am
> getting very strange sounds from my HDD. At the very end of boot
> sequence, just after the screen is cleared from drivers' boot messages
> and before the blue PM color appears - my hard disk now makes a long
> harsh ar-r-r-r sound like its heads are trying to go past the disk
> surface :-). The sound lasts for 5-6 sec, boot then proceeds normally
> and everything works fine, but I'm really scared to reboot my machine
> now, I am not sure how long my HDD will survive this kind of "surface
> testing". Needless to say, I've run checkdisk and GTU disk checker
> several times with no errors of any kind reported.
>
> The system is AMD K6-266, ASUS P55T2P4 mobo with 128M RAM, Tekram
> DC-390F UW SCSI adapter and WD 3.4G UW SCSI attached (it also has second
> EIDE WD 3.6G disk, used for storage only). Device drivers are left at
> FP10 level, e.g. I did not apply DD Fixpack. Other hardware includes
> ESS1868 sound card, two NICs (Realtek 8029 and DEC 41021 chipsets) and
> Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device driver that was upgraded
> simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one, now at v.2.31.100.
>
> Cheers,
> Ivan
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
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From: jdparker@erols.com                                18-Oct-99 19:02:05
  To: dmhills@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 03:31:02
Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes (reprise)

To: Don Hills <dmhills@ibm.net>
From: Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>

Don Hills wrote:

> In article <380A6281.FDB87F3D@erols.com>, Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>
wrote:
> >"Graham C. Norris" wrote:
> >
> >How do you know this? The documentation (an old OS/2 2.1 book) I have does
> >not say whether it is a pointer directly to the cluster containing the EA
or
> >a pointer relative to the start of the EA file (or an index as you put it).
>
> It's an index. There's another table structure within the EA file that
> it points into. You can defrag it safely with a suitable defragger. The
> problem with some defraggers, and Microsoft SCANDISK, is that they can
> damage the index in the directory entries of the files. The Windows LFN
> feature also uses the EA index field as part of its long filename
> support and will change it to suit itself.
>
> There is a single hard rule you MUST follow: If you have files that you
> want to preserve the EA information for, put them on an HPFS drive (or a
> hidden primary partition) so Windows won't see them.
>
> >The reason I'm looking for utilities to show file to cluster allocation and
> >dump directory entries is to confirm or contradict my suspicion. If I
dumped
> >the EA DATA. SF file and some directory entries I could tell whether the
> >pointers were an index or not. If the cluster allocation of EA DATA. SF
> >changed consistent with a defragmentation effort and the directory entries
> >did not change, that would suggest that a defragmenter caused the problem.
> >If the directory entries changed but the cluster allocation did not change
> >this would suggest it was not a defragger.
>
> A simple experiment:
> Add an EA to a file. Copy the file to a blank floppy disk. Check out the
> fields with a disk sector editor. Write a couple more files to the
> floppy and take another look with the sector editor. Delete the first
> file and write a bigger file: the disk is now fragmented. Use it under
> Windows and see if the EAs get changed. Run SCANDISK or your defragger
> against it and see what happens.
>
> --
> Don Hills      (dmhills at ibmdotnet)     Wellington, New Zealand

Where can I get a disk sector editor?

Thanks
Jim


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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               19-Oct-99 10:38:08
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Backup Software (and DAT3)

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

Hi,

One of my DAT 4Gb streamers is on its last legs.  I will have to replace
it and I am thinking about a DAT3 (12-24Gb) streamer.  Options are HP,
Sony and IBM.

I presently use Sytos plus (2.1 and 2.2) which does not have drivers for
any DAT3 streamers (anyone knows different).  The IBM sreamer is the
only one with a driver for Sytos.  I am also migrating to Warp for
e-Business.

Anyone who is happily using Warp's Personnaly Safe and Sound.  Are you
happy with it?

Is there any backup software for Warp4 that anyone can recommend, which
recognises DAT3 streamers and has full disaster recovery facilities?

Many thanks.
Charles


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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           19-Oct-99 07:50:20
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Re: Backup Software (and DAT3)

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <380C3C08.300E34AE@dundee.ac.uk>, on 10/19/99 at 10:38 AM,
   Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>
said:

> Is there any backup software for Warp4 that anyone can recommend, which
> recognises DAT3 streamers and has full disaster recovery facilities?

AFAIK, BackAgain/2 Professional supports all three drives you mentioned.
The publisher, Computer Data Strategies, is very responsive to email or
calls to Technical Support.

Their website is www.cds-inc.com. Their technical support voice line is        
               
651-730-4156.  This is in the midwest of the United States which is 6
hours behind London prevailing time.

FYI, they offer DAT 3 drives for sale (but don't list prices on the web).
Here is the text for HP offerings:


Model                                                      Speed             
Capacity (*)    Price HP35480A   DDS-DC DAT,          up to 42MB/min         
4GB        Please call!

C1533            DDS-2 DAT,               up to 60MB/min            8GB      
Please call! 

C1554A         DDS-3 DAT,               up to 120MB/min       24GB      
Please call! 

C1553            DDS-2 DAT Loader, up to   60MB/min       48GB Autoloader 
Please call

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From: dmhills@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 22:23:08
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes (reprise)

From: dmhills@ibm.net (Don Hills)

In article <380BA6F2.64CC2C8F@erols.com>, Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>
wrote:
>
>Where can I get a disk sector editor?

As others have pointed out, The Graham Utilities and Gammatech Utilities
are good buys. And check out DFSEE, at http://www.fsys.demon.nl

For DOS there's ZIPZAP, DDT and YASE and likely others. Try a Simtel FTP
site.

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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 19-Oct-99 12:54:19
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: Backup Software (and DAT3)

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>
wrote:

>it and I am thinking about a DAT3 (12-24Gb) streamer.  Options are HP,
>Sony and IBM.

The IBM's are actually Lynx drives, which are actually OEM HP's :) so
that might cut you're choices down a bit.  I like the HP's because
they have 3 years warrany whereas the best I can extract from Sony is
12 months.


>Anyone who is happily using Warp's Personnaly Safe and Sound.  Are you
>happy with it?

It looks like a nice product and certainly works, but... its support
for tape drives is woeful.  In fact, I've yet to get it to work with
anything I've tried.


>Is there any backup software for Warp4 that anyone can recommend, which
>recognises DAT3 streamers and has full disaster recovery facilities?

Check out Cristies PC-Bax.  Its multi platform and does a solid job.
Its the only one so far to pass our testing. I've been trialing and
using it under WSeB for the last couple of months and so far its been
great (also done a disaster recovery within that time too).

Craig

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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             19-Oct-99 18:15:16
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: What ATA-66 card?

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

Does anyone know of a ATA-66 I/O card that works with OS/2.  I'm
considering adding some more EIDE devices and need a few more channels.
All the web sites I checked did not include listed OS/2 support or
drivers.

Or should the regular old 506 work?

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    19-Oct-99 20:15:29
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: What ATA-66 card?

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Ron Gibson (rgibson@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Does anyone know of a ATA-66 I/O card that works with OS/2.  I'm
: considering adding some more EIDE devices and need a few more channels.
: All the web sites I checked did not include listed OS/2 support or
: drivers.

	The Promise Ultra/66 I think works but that is only with 
DANIS506.  Dunno about that HotRod one that Abit had...


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From: bbarry@us.ibm.com                                 19-Oct-99 16:52:20
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: Re: What ATA-66 card?

From: "Barry Bryan" <bbarry@us.ibm.com>

On 19 Oct 1999 18:15:33 GMT, Ron Gibson wrote:

:>Does anyone know of a ATA-66 I/O card that works with OS/2.

I have an IBM1S506.ADD driver that has been updated for ATA-66 that I'm
getting ready to release on the DDPak.  It it for Intel IDE chip sets.   The
driver has already been released on the PC Company web site for new desktop
models with ATA-66.    


Barry Bryan
Program Manager, Spinning Device Support


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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    18-Oct-99 20:19:27
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes (reprise)

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

You can purchase Gammatech Utilities or the Graham Utilities online or
you can go down to your local computer shop and buy Norton Utilities or
Network Associates Nuts and Bolts for Windows.  I'd suggest installing
Norton Utilities in your Windows system as it is at least not actively
hostile to OS/2 and is a whole lot better than M$'s junk anyway. You can
operate either of the Windows utilities sector editors from a DOS (or
WinDOS) boot floppy.

Graham.

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From: stjen@prodigy.net                                 18-Oct-99 23:36:01
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes

From: Scott Tietjen <stjen@prodigy.net>

This may be a rather nasty way to "fix" the problem, but if you create
at least two Primary partitions on your HD, and put Winxx in one, and
OS/2 in the other, in general, only one *or* the other will be visible,
and not both at the same time.  Both partitions would be known as C:
while they're online; I believe Boot Manager knows how to make one vs
the other active automatically.  If Winxx can't even see the OS/2
partition, then it can't trash it; you can also make the OS/2 partiton
HPFS, which will futher prevent Winxx from seeing it (but maybe not
trashing it).

If you really need to share data between them, create a separate logical
partition drive that can be seen from either partition, but only keep
data there -- no programs files.

If this helps, great -- if not, ignore it.  Good luck.
	-- Scott Tietjen

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From: stjen@prodigy.net                                 18-Oct-99 23:49:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: Re: Adding second SCSI card

From: Scott Tietjen <stjen@prodigy.net>

Ian Johnston wrote:
> 
> The problem is that my card, like yours, allows me to use two of three
> connectors. I have already used the "big" internal connector (main HD)
> and the "little" internal connector (backup HD and CD-R) so I can't
> now add a Zip drive and scanner to the external connector.

I've seen them in cable specialty shops, or at large computer fairs --
it's an external cable connector that plugs into an internal cable end. 
You take over a spare "slot" with this internal to external adapter,
plug the end of your (probably the small) internal into the inside part
of it, and then hang your extra devices off of it.  (I've not used it,
so your mileage may vary...)

Good luck...
	-- Scott Tietjen

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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  18-Oct-99 09:37:13
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: Re-partitioning & FS's Was Re: HPFS386 big problem

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:51:29 +0100, Tony Wright wrote:
>
> ->1. Although I'm using boot disks (from FP9), and similarly invoking
> ->PMAGICOT.EXE + using latest IDEDASD drivers it is therefore on a >8Gb
> ->IDE drive and not SCSI (as I suspect you are using?).
>
> I would also make sure that you do not have IBMINT13.I13 loading in the
> config.sys on your boot diskettes. I've seen times where it decides to use
> that instead of the real driver for your disk (eg, IBM1S506.ADD) even when
> there is one there to use. IBMINT13.I13 will limit you to BIOS support
> only...

Thanks Trevor, valid point and very plausible explanation for the perceived
differences in functionality.   I didn't think the Int13 default driver was
loaded/present but I'll have to retrieve my original boot diskettes from their
current custodian and double check......<g>

> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



--
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"




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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@ibm.net                     19-Oct-99 19:40:11
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: Backup Software (and DAT3)

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@ibm.net

In <380C3C08.300E34AE@dundee.ac.uk>, on 10/19/99 
   at 10:38 AM, Charles Christacopoulos
<c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk> said:


Contact PCX software.  They make BackupWiz for OS/2 and are pretty good
about device support.

If anyone recommends BA/2 to you, have their children killed.

Roland

>Hi,

>One of my DAT 4Gb streamers is on its last legs.  I will have to replace
>it and I am thinking about a DAT3 (12-24Gb) streamer.  Options are HP,
>Sony and IBM.

>I presently use Sytos plus (2.1 and 2.2) which does not have drivers for
>any DAT3 streamers (anyone knows different).  The IBM sreamer is the only
>one with a driver for Sytos.  I am also migrating to Warp for e-Business.

>Anyone who is happily using Warp's Personnaly Safe and Sound.  Are you
>happy with it?

>Is there any backup software for Warp4 that anyone can recommend, which
>recognises DAT3 streamers and has full disaster recovery facilities?

>Many thanks.
>Charles



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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             20-Oct-99 00:07:24
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: Backup with CD-R

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:27:21, isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog) wrote:

> Will this setup be okay? Especially if I have to span multiple CD's?
> Is there a cheaper, but just as reliable, setup?
 
Absolutely, especially with SCSI already.  Use a removable or external
HDD and Drive Image by Power Quest (about $49).

Much faster, cheaper and more reliable.

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             20-Oct-99 00:25:23
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: What ATA-66 card?

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:52:41, "Barry Bryan" <bbarry@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> On 19 Oct 1999 18:15:33 GMT, Ron Gibson wrote:
> 
> :>Does anyone know of a ATA-66 I/O card that works with OS/2.
> 
> I have an IBM1S506.ADD driver that has been updated for ATA-66 that I'm
> getting ready to release on the DDPak.  It it for Intel IDE chip sets.   The
> driver has already been released on the PC Company web site for new desktop
> models with ATA-66.    
 
Well now that's interesting, because my on board IDE chipset is Intel
(BX).

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    19-Oct-99 19:20:18
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: Backup Software (and DAT3)

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

Bob Germer wrote:
> AFAIK, BackAgain/2 Professional supports all three drives you mentioned.
> The publisher, Computer Data Strategies, is very responsive to email or
> calls to Technical Support.

If responsive means they send back an automated response promising
further action within a few days, then yes, I'd say they are responsive.
As I've never received any follow up after that, I personally would have
to say that in my opinion they are not the slightest bit responsive.
They didn't even respond to two emails asking how to pay them to upgrade
the product!

On the other hand, the software does seems to work well. I wasn't
reporting major difficulties, but they certainly didn't seem interested.

Graham.

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From: Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com                         19-Oct-99 23:50:11
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: SYS0525 - Cannot complete format after partitioning 3GB drive Seagate

From: Tony Saucedo <Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com>

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                                      Tony,

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| Austin, Texas                                         |
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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      20-Oct-99 05:01:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: What ATA-66 card?

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <eleS4DQ3N6dS-pn2-LjkZP0dNdUgi@tam-fl18-192.ix.netcom.com>,
  rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) wrote:

> Does anyone know of a ATA-66 I/O card that works with OS/2.  I'm
> considering adding some more EIDE devices and need a few more
> channels. All the web sites I checked did not include listed OS/2
> support or drivers.
>
> Or should the regular old 506 work?

Yes, probably, but not nessecarily at ATA66 speeds. DANIS506.ADD (on
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/) does however. I reccomend that you use it even
if you don't have an ATA66 device, as this is a most excellent driver!
:)

--
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hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com                         20-Oct-99 00:12:06
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: SYS0525 - Cannot complete format after partitioning

From: Tony Saucedo <Tony.Saucedo@eagletcs.com>

I have attempted to install OS/2 V3 on this 3GB
IDE (Seagate) on a Compaq Deskpro EP.
After partitioning drive and selecting format the 
installation fails using OS/2 V3.
Next I tried with OS/2 V4, same problem and failure.

So I decided to try from the command line instead
of the installation.		

	- FDISK (create a primary partition of 1GB)
	- Save and Exit then reboot
	- Format c: /fs:hpfs
	 ...format completed message is display and
	  get prompted for Volume label.
	- Enter volume name, results in SYS0525
	   (...if no volume name is enter same  error
		SYS0525 occurs)

The following error is return;

SYS0525: The specified disk cannot be formatted.

EXPLANATION: One or both of the following has occurred:
o  Another process is accessing the specified disk.
o  You have not logged on with sufficient privilege to format
   the disk.

ACTION: Do one or both of the following and retry the command:
o  End the other process or wait until it is complete.
o  Log on with sufficient privilege.


..Now at this time this is the only HD.

Next I connect the same disk as a slave to a drive that
has OS/2 already installed.
Strangely enought the same error message is returned.

By the way I have tried the installation (fdisk and format)
using the standard IDE drivers and the updated ones.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this weird problem?

This is ONLY a 3GB IDE drive, with NO other partitions on
it.

Any suggestions?
-- 

                                      Tony,

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| EAGLE Traffic Control Systems               |
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From: gstrazds@hololasertech.on.ca                      20-Oct-99 03:40:23
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:03
Subj: Re: fdisk can't read partition table on larger drive (3GB)

From: Glenn Strazds <gstrazds@hololasertech.on.ca>

You may? will need; to update the ide and the other device drivers on your
boot
disks, install disks with current device drivers that recognize current
generation much larger hard disk's...

I had to do this when I upgraded to an 8.4 gig hard drive.

available at device drivers on line at the IBM web site..

Sincerely Glenn Strazds


Michael Shillingford wrote:

> Am trying to install warp 3 and 4 on a new system that has a 3GB drive that
> has been partitioned by Win95B into:
> C: Primary 976 MB Fat  Win95
> D: Extended 1024 MB Fat
> E: Extended 1020 MB Fat
>
> On install, both Warps fdisk program reports that the partition table
> appears to be corrupted, showing only:
> C: primary 976 fat
> ? 2044 MB unknown
>
> I can delete both the partitions using warps fdisk, but then I can't create
> any new ones - the fdisk menus options are all disabled. Have exited fdisk
> without saving since I don't want to remove the first (C) partition, just
> install warp on the extended partitions.
> Using WD Caviar 3020MB IDE drive, 6136 Cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors, LBA
> mode, PIO 4, Blockmode 16 sec, 32bit mode off.
> IDE controller is VXPro-II PC82371

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           20-Oct-99 03:05:20
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:03
Subj: Re: Backup Software (and DAT3)

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <380D26F5.B8847370@linkline.com>, on 10/19/99 at 07:20 PM,
   "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com> said:


> If responsive means they send back an automated response promising
> further action within a few days, then yes, I'd say they are responsive.
> As I've never received any follow up after that, I personally would have
> to say that in my opinion they are not the slightest bit responsive.
> They didn't even respond to two emails asking how to pay them to upgrade
> the product!

Well, I have called their phone number on several occasions. They have
either answered my question on line or returned a call which provided the
solution within a day or two.


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MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk                     20-Oct-99 07:31:19
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:03
Subj: IBMS506 or VIA's drivers or DaniS506?

From: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D)

Hi,

I found some OS/2 drivers on VIA's website but I was wondering if
anyone found them to be any better (or worse) than the other drivers
available out there.

Thanks for any advice


Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail address>-

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    20-Oct-99 07:09:18
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: IBMS506 or VIA's drivers or DaniS506?

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <380d6f42.595166@news.karoo.co.uk>,
glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I found some OS/2 drivers on VIA's website but I was wondering if
>anyone found them to be any better (or worse) than the other drivers
>available out there.
>
>Thanks for any advice

Worse.

Use Dani's drivers ... they are the latest and the best.

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From: Jakob_Rascher@t-online.de                         20-Oct-99 11:03:08
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: IBMS506 or VIA's drivers or DaniS506?

From: Jakob_Rascher@t-online.de

Hi Glen,
the only driver for the via chipset which work with drives > 8 GB is 
the danis506.
regards
	Jakob

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:31:39, glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D) 
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I found some OS/2 drivers on VIA's website but I was wondering if
> anyone found them to be any better (or worse) than the other drivers
> available out there.
> 
> Thanks for any advice
> 
> 
> Glen D
> -<remove Z from my e-mail address>-


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From: pandpATattglobal.net                              20-Oct-99 15:09:21
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: OS/2 and Rock Ridge Extensions

From: "Philip Nelson" <pandpATattglobal.net>

Is there any piece of software which will allow me to read a CD which
utilitises Rock Ridge extensions using the long file names rather than the
short equivalents.

This so that I can copy some data from a CD produced under Linux onto my hard
disk and get the long file names.

TIA


Philip Nelson
(pandp@attglobal.net)

Using PMINews and OS/2 Warp 4


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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             20-Oct-99 14:55:01
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: What ATA-66 card?

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 05:01:25, hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote:

> > Does anyone know of a ATA-66 I/O card that works with OS/2.  I'm
> > considering adding some more EIDE devices and need a few more
> > channels. All the web sites I checked did not include listed OS/2
> > support or drivers.

> > Or should the regular old 506 work?
 
> Yes, probably, but not nessecarily at ATA66 speeds. DANIS506.ADD (on
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/) does however. I reccomend that you use it even
> if you don't have an ATA66 device, as this is a most excellent driver!
> :)
 
Yes, I do use it and it is a keeper.

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: andrie@attglobal.net                              20-Oct-99 20:43:04
  To: pandp@attglobal.net                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Rock Ridge Extensions

To: Philip Nelson <pandp@attglobal.net>
From: "Hans Andrieáen" <andrie@attglobal.net>

Philip Nelson schrieb:
> 
> Is there any piece of software which will allow me to read a CD which
> utilitises Rock Ridge extensions using the long file names rather than the
> short equivalents.

Use the following line in CONFIG.SYS
ifs=c:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /Q /W

Bye/2
Hans

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From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca                       20-Oct-99 19:41:29
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: IBMS506 or VIA's drivers or DaniS506?

From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Dan Casey (dcasey@ibm.net) wrote:
: In article <380d6f42.595166@news.karoo.co.uk>,
: glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk (Glen D) wrote:
: >Hi,
: >
: >I found some OS/2 drivers on VIA's website but I was wondering if
: >anyone found them to be any better (or worse) than the other drivers
: >available out there.
: >
: >Thanks for any advice

: Worse.

: Use Dani's drivers ... they are the latest and the best.

Why are the VIA's worse? (Is that bit about not supporting >8GB drives
true?)

I used to run DANIS506, I now run VIA drivers with no problem. Sysbench
reports negligible difference between the two.
Of the 2, I found VIA easier to setup. It just adds 2 extra lines for
drivers in the CONFIG.SYS. DANIS506 required just 1 line, but a whole
whack of switches (which may be a good thing if you want to tweak
settings).

I haven't had any reliability problems (that I know of) on either one.


Isaac

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From: jata@aepiax.net                                   20-Oct-99 22:17:27
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:24
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Rock Ridge Extensions

From: jata@aepiax.net (Julian Thomas)

In <cnaqcnggtybonyarg.fjx1860.pminews@news2.attglobal.net>, on 10/20/99 
   at 03:09 PM, "Philip Nelson" <pandpATattglobal.net> said:

>Is there any piece of software which will allow me to read a CD which
>utilitises Rock Ridge extensions using the long file names rather than
>the short equivalents.

>This so that I can copy some data from a CD produced under Linux onto my
>hard disk and get the long file names.

I haven't tried it to/from Linux, but infozip seems to transport long file
names fairly well - if zipping and ftp is an option.
 
-- 
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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               21-Oct-99 00:22:01
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:24
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Rock Ridge Extensions

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

"Hans Andrieáen" schrieb:
> 
> Philip Nelson schrieb:
> >
> > Is there any piece of software which will allow me to read a CD which
> > utilitises Rock Ridge extensions using the long file names rather than the
> > short equivalents.
> 
> Use the following line in CONFIG.SYS
> ifs=c:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /Q /W

The /W switch only activates Joliet support, but not support for
Rockridge AFAIK. RSJ claims that their CD-Writer filesystem is also
capable of Rockridge support, but I've never tried to read such a CD
using it and never found any TRANS.TBL files on the CDs that I made
myself. Download the demo-version and see yourself.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com                          20-Oct-99 18:18:15
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:25
Subj: Re: Really no "mount/2" to use image files like drives ?

From: Timothy Sipples <tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com>

Andreas Grosche wrote:
> While many of the useful Unix programs seem to have their OS/2
> counterparts now, I've not found an OS/2 equivalent of the Unix mount
> command to use the image file of a hard disk partition as a drive.
> Under Linux, for example, an image file in a format known to the system
> (i.e. including HPFS) can simply be mounted at any mount point through the
> loop device, and then be used just as if the drive was physically present.
> Under OS/2, of course this would work by assigning the image file to a
> reserved drive letter (something like "mount I: D:\OLD_DISK.IMG").
> As the possibility to mount image files as drives has turned out to be
> very time-saving in certain situations, I wonder if there's really nothing
> like it under OS/2, so if you know where to find it please let me know.

JFS (in Warp Server for e-business) and the TVFS (Toronto Virtual File
System) have many of the attributes you describe.

-- 
Timothy Sipples
IBM Network Computing Software
Chicago, Illinois
Web: http://www.satdirect.com/aviation

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  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: What is a Paperless Office?

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      20-Oct-99 22:51:26
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Rock Ridge Extensions

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <380E619D.CC39045F@attglobal.net>, "Hans Andrießen" <andrie@attglobal.net>
writes:

>Philip Nelson schrieb:
>> 
>> Is there any piece of software which will allow me to read a CD which
>> utilitises Rock Ridge extensions using the long file names rather than the
>> short equivalents.

>Use the following line in CONFIG.SYS
>ifs=c:\os2\boot\cdfs.ifs /Q /W

IIRC, the "/W" switch enables the Microsoft "Joliet" lfn 
extensions.  I am not aware of any OS/2 software that handles the
Rock Ridge extensions used on linux CD's.

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr                            21-Oct-99 08:38:29
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Re: Really no "mount/2" to use image files like drives ?

From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:18:30 -0500, Timothy Sipples
<tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com> wrote:
>Andreas Grosche wrote:
>> While many of the useful Unix programs seem to have their OS/2
>> counterparts now, I've not found an OS/2 equivalent of the Unix mount
>> command to use the image file of a hard disk partition as a drive.
>> Under Linux, for example, an image file in a format known to the
>> system (i.e. including HPFS) can simply be mounted at any mount point
>> through the loop device, and then be used just as if the drive was
>> physically present. Under OS/2, of course this would work by
>> assigning the image file to a reserved drive letter (something like
>> "mount I: D:\OLD_DISK.IMG"). As the possibility to mount image files
>> as drives has turned out to be very time-saving in certain
>> situations, I wonder if there's really nothing like it under OS/2, so
>> if you know where to find it please let me know.
>
>JFS (in Warp Server for e-business) and the TVFS (Toronto Virtual File
>System) have many of the attributes you describe.

Dunno about JFS but TVFS does AFAIK not allow you to mount disk images
as file systems. Those are really two different things. (Check with 'man
mount' on AIX, for instance, I'd be surprised if it can't do it.)

>-- 
>Timothy Sipples
>IBM Network Computing Software
>Chicago, Illinois
>Web: http://www.satdirect.com/aviation


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From: mc6530@mclink.it                                  21-Oct-99 11:01:25
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: mc6530@mclink.it (Yuri Dario)

Hi,

yesterday I lost my JFS partition from my WarpServer for Ebusiness PC.
Now chkdsk is unable to restore the partition because it is quitting 
during step 3

E:\>chkdsk F: /f
The current hard disk drive is: F:
The type of file system for the disk is JFS.
The JFS file system program has been started.
CHKDSK  Block size in bytes:  4096
CHKDSK  File system size in blocks:  1048233
CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory 
Entries
CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links
CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory 
Tree
    ....|....
E:\>

I were using the JFS.IFS fixed when the partition got corrupted. I 
tried also using the old JFS.IFS but it has the same problem.
The partition data should be still good, because steps 1 and 2 can be 
completed.

My pc is a dual P3/450, 256MB, supermicro P6DBU with IBM 9.1scsi U2W.

I need some help to reset the dirty flag on JFS, because I need to 
extract at least a few missing files from tapes.

Can you help me?

Bye,

	Yuri Dario

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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 21-Oct-99 12:30:04
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: fdisk can't read partition table on larger drive (3GB)

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:18:10, "Michael Shillingford" 
<mshill@elkvalley.net> wrote:

> Am trying to install warp 3 and 4 on a new system that has a 3GB drive that
> has been partitioned by Win95B into:
> C: Primary 976 MB Fat  Win95
> D: Extended 1024 MB Fat
> E: Extended 1020 MB Fat
> 
> On install, both Warps fdisk program reports that the partition table
> appears to be corrupted, showing only:
> C: primary 976 fat
> ? 2044 MB unknown
> 
> I can delete both the partitions using warps fdisk, but then I can't create
> any new ones - the fdisk menus options are all disabled. Have exited fdisk
> without saving since I don't want to remove the first (C) partition, just
> install warp on the extended partitions.

Michael, 

It could be that when you created the Extended partition with your Win95B,
the partition was made a "Type 0F". This is a partition type that OS/2 
does not recognize. (The OS/2 counterpart is a "Type 05" partition.) The 
Extended partition is like a container for the Logical partitions you 
create within the Extended partitions boundry. When you tried to delete 
the Logical partition using Warps FDISK you didn't go far enough. To have 
Warp FDISK to create new partitions you have to first delete the Logical 
partitions (which you did),  AND the Extended partition. After that you 
should be able to create first a new Extended partition  and the further 
divide this into several Logical partitions.

As you probably know, in order to install Warp to a Logical partition you 
have to first install Boot Manager. Boot Manager have to be installed in a
Primary partition on the first physical hard disk in your system.

Don't worry about you present C: partition. FDISK will not touch it if you
don't tell it to. It will remain as is.

Jan Swartling
 Blue Soft
 Sweden

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From: cdbrady@NOibm.SPAMnet                             21-Oct-99 07:39:19
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: IBMS506 or VIA's drivers or DaniS506?

From: Cliff Brady <cdbrady@NOibm.SPAMnet>

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:31:39 GMT, in article
<380d6f42.595166@news.karoo.co.uk>,
glen@rockyhorror.Zkaroo.co.uk stated...
>
>Hi,
>
>I found some OS/2 drivers on VIA's website but I was wondering if
>anyone found them to be any better (or worse) than the other drivers
>available out there.
>
>Thanks for any advice
>
>
>Glen D
>-<remove Z from my e-mail address>-

I find Dani's drivers are more reliable than VIA's because Dani's let you
specify the (U)DMA and the PIO mode.  Per Dani's advice, I specify UDMA 2 and
PIO 0.  Any other PIO tends to cause minor corruption to the desktop, even
with
the VIA drivers.  If I remember correctly, the PIO mode has better error
checking and is only used at startup and shutdown.

The VIA drivers do however identify the IDE chipset on my FIC 503a MB as a 686
while the DaniS506 identifies it as a 571, which may be technically correct.

Cliff Brady

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From: uzs993@uni-bonn.de                                21-Oct-99 19:49:22
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: using cdrecord/2 in DAO-mode to write audio cd

From: Andreas Bertram <uzs993@uni-bonn.de>

Hi,

anybody here who can tell me how to simply burn an audio cd by given
WAV-files in DAO mode using cdrecord/2?

The current versions provide some kind of DAO-support, but I'm not sure
how to use this. Especially I'd like to know if I need to convert the
WAV-files into something weird format (remove 44 bytes WAV-header?
byte-swap? red-book audio?) and how to control the gaps between the
tracks (e.g. I'd like to have a 2sec pregap before each of the tracks -
except the first, of course). To make it easy, each WAV should be a
track.

Unfortunately RSJ (I bought this one long time ago) refuses to include
DAO-support, and somebody started the port of CDRDAO, but it's been
quite some time scince I read from him... so my only hope left is
cdrecord/2.

Well, a DAO-DOS-port to OS/2 would be perfect, but the author of
DAODOS/CDRWIN (Goldenhawk Software) is not interested in doing this...


I also did not succeed in making 1:1 copies of audio-cds. readcd.exe
always fails after a second of work.

btw: I'm using a Philips CDD2600. Writing Audio-CDs in TAO is not
acceptable, scince there's no pregap-control, and there are audible
clicks between the tracks.

Bye, Andy

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From: uzs993@uni-bonn.de                                21-Oct-99 19:54:19
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: IBMS506 or VIA's drivers or DaniS506?

From: Andreas Bertram <uzs993@uni-bonn.de>

Hi,

> Worse.
> Use Dani's drivers ... they are the latest and the best.
I thought the same... till I tried the VIA-drivers.

The WPS-hangs and crashs I occasionally encountered (using DANIS) now
have disappeared. System runs rock-stable now.
Maybe the DANIS-drivers version I tried had some bugs left (gamma7, more
recent versions did not boot at all with my computer), but right now I
have an uptime of more than 10 days - ViA drivers work well for me...
and never change a running system.


Hmm, guess I should give the new 1.0.11 DANIS a try and compare its
performance to the VIA-drivers throughput - what measuring tool should I
use for this task?

Bye, Andy
(Warp4 FP10, MVP3+ Board)

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From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca                           21-Oct-99 19:58:26
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: IBMS506 or VIA's drivers or DaniS506?

From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Andreas Bertram (uzs993@uni-bonn.de) wrote:
: Hi,

: > Worse.
: > Use Dani's drivers ... they are the latest and the best.
: I thought the same... till I tried the VIA-drivers.

: The WPS-hangs and crashs I occasionally encountered (using DANIS) now
: have disappeared. System runs rock-stable now.
: Maybe the DANIS-drivers version I tried had some bugs left (gamma7, more
: recent versions did not boot at all with my computer), but right now I
: have an uptime of more than 10 days - ViA drivers work well for me...
: and never change a running system.

: Hmm, guess I should give the new 1.0.11 DANIS a try and compare its
: performance to the VIA-drivers throughput - what measuring tool should I
: use for this task?

The problem (good part) of DANIS506 drivers is that you can specify the
DMA and PIO modes. Which of course, means that if you get it _wrong_ you
may experience some of the problems you described. On the flip side, you
can choose exactly what you want.

The VIA drivers, on the other hand, are a brain-dead install. There's
nothing to goof up.

I used sysbench to measure the performance. The VIA and DANIS506 are
nearly identical, except for 1 measure. I think the author of sysbench had
mentioned that 1 measure was basically negligible for real world
performance.



Isaac

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From: mmcclelland@delphi.com                            21-Oct-99 20:52:18
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: Mark McClelland <mmcclelland@delphi.com>

Try using different versions of UJFS.DLL (I think that's the name.)
That's where all of the JFS CHKDSK code resides, I think. BTW, I have a
system that's identical to yours, except that I only have 1 processor in
it, and I'm trying to decide if I should add another one. Does SMP work
well on it? Is it noticably faster than a single processor system?

Yuri Dario wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> yesterday I lost my JFS partition from my WarpServer for Ebusiness PC.
> Now chkdsk is unable to restore the partition because it is quitting
> during step 3
> 
> E:\>chkdsk F: /f
> The current hard disk drive is: F:
> The type of file system for the disk is JFS.
> The JFS file system program has been started.
> CHKDSK  Block size in bytes:  4096
> CHKDSK  File system size in blocks:  1048233
> CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
> CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory
> Entries
> CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links
> CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory
> Tree
>     ....|....
> E:\>
> 
> I were using the JFS.IFS fixed when the partition got corrupted. I
> tried also using the old JFS.IFS but it has the same problem.
> The partition data should be still good, because steps 1 and 2 can be
> completed.
> 
> My pc is a dual P3/450, 256MB, supermicro P6DBU with IBM 9.1scsi U2W.
> 
> I need some help to reset the dirty flag on JFS, because I need to
> extract at least a few missing files from tapes.
> 
> Can you help me?
> 
> Bye,
> 
>         Yuri Dario
> 
> /*
>  * member of TeamOS/2 - Italy
>  * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri
>  */

-- 
Mark McClelland
mmcclelland@delphi.com
Get paid to surf the web! Visit to www.easydough.com for more info.

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From: godfrey@isl.stanford.edu                          22-Oct-99 05:31:06
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:02
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: godfrey@isl.stanford.edu

In <380FDF85.2352E25@delphi.com>, Mark McClelland <mmcclelland@delphi.com>
writes:
>Try using different versions of UJFS.DLL (I think that's the name.)
It may be too late, but you might try the updated JFS which you
can download from 
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4.5warp/
This is claimed to fix some serious problems in WSEB JFS.

>Yuri Dario wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> yesterday I lost my JFS partition from my WarpServer for Ebusiness PC.
>> Now chkdsk is unable to restore the partition because it is quitting
>> during step 3
>> 
>> E:\>chkdsk F: /f
>> The current hard disk drive is: F:
>> The type of file system for the disk is JFS.
>> The JFS file system program has been started.
>> CHKDSK  Block size in bytes:  4096
>> CHKDSK  File system size in blocks:  1048233
>> CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log
>> CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory
>> Entries
>> CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links
>> CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory
>> Tree
>>     ....|....
>> E:\>
>> 
>> I were using the JFS.IFS fixed when the partition got corrupted. I
>> tried also using the old JFS.IFS but it has the same problem.
>> The partition data should be still good, because steps 1 and 2 can be
>> completed.
>> 
>> My pc is a dual P3/450, 256MB, supermicro P6DBU with IBM 9.1scsi U2W.
>> 
>> I need some help to reset the dirty flag on JFS, because I need to
>> extract at least a few missing files from tapes.
>> 
>> Can you help me?
>> 
>> Bye,
>> 
>>         Yuri Dario
>> 
>> /*
>>  * member of TeamOS/2 - Italy
>>  * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri
>>  */
>
>-- 
>Mark McClelland
>mmcclelland@delphi.com
>Get paid to surf the web! Visit to www.easydough.com for more info.

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From: pandpATattglobal.net                              21-Oct-99 17:00:16
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: OS/2 and Rock Ridge Extensions

From: "Philip Nelson" <pandpATattglobal.net>

All,

Thanks for your replies.

I enabled the /W option and read the RedHat CD fine.

Thanks very much.

Phil Nelson
(pandp@attglobal.net)



On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:17:54 GMT, Julian Thomas wrote:

>In <cnaqcnggtybonyarg.fjx1860.pminews@news2.attglobal.net>, on 10/20/99 
>   at 03:09 PM, "Philip Nelson" <pandpATattglobal.net> said:
>
>>Is there any piece of software which will allow me to read a CD which
>>utilitises Rock Ridge extensions using the long file names rather than
>>the short equivalents.
>
>>This so that I can copy some data from a CD produced under Linux onto my
>>hard disk and get the long file names.
>
>I haven't tried it to/from Linux, but infozip seems to transport long file
>names fairly well - if zipping and ftp is an option.
> 
>-- 
> Julian Thomas: jt . epix @ net  http://home.epix.net/~jt
> remove letter a for email (or switch . and @)
> Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc  http://www.possi.org
> In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State!
> -- --
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> Then howcome people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished?
>
>
>



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From: mc6530@mclink.it                                  22-Oct-99 07:28:11
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition

From: mc6530@mclink.it (Yuri Dario)

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:52:37, Mark McClelland <mmcclelland@delphi.com>
wrote:

> Try using different versions of UJFS.DLL (I think that's the name.)
> That's where all of the JFS CHKDSK code resides, I think. 

ok, but where can I get such file? it is not included with the JFS fix
that IBM posted a couple of months ago.

>Does SMP work
> well on it? Is it noticably faster than a single processor system?

noticably faster when you run multiple process that needs a lot of 
CPU. Otherwise for standard work it didn't make a great difference: 
but before I was running a single P200, so now I have got an 
incredible cpu power and I can't compare then properly.

Bye,

	Yuri Dario

/*
 * member of TeamOS/2 - Italy
 * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri
 */

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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               22-Oct-99 13:13:19
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:25
Subj: Re: Backup Software (and DAT3)

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

Thank you all.  

I think I am tempted for an HP drive (yeap, 3 years warranty sounds
good).  First attempt would be to use SYTOS and as that too receives no
further development if I have to I will opt for PSNS as it comes with
the server.

Regards
Charles

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           22-Oct-99 09:05:27
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:25
Subj: Re: Backup Software (and DAT3)

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <381054F2.9837AA75@dundee.ac.uk>, on 10/22/99 at 01:13 PM,
   Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>
said:

> I think I am tempted for an HP drive (yeap, 3 years warranty sounds
> good).  First attempt would be to use SYTOS and as that too receives no
> further development if I have to I will opt for PSNS as it comes with
> the server.

I would love to SEE the HP drive before purchasing it. A few years ago, I
would have heartily agreed with you. However, lately HP products have been
of lower and lower quality in my opinion. I have very little good to say
about the 600 and 700 and even some of the 800 series deskjet printers
from a quality or reliability standpoint for other than home use. Ditto
for the newer scanners, they just don't seem to be as solid as the Scanjet
2,3, and 4 family.

Moreover, some HP branded hardware is not of HP manufacture. They farm out
the work to a third party and allow their name to be put on the product.
If, in fact, this is true of the tape drives, perhaps buying the same
drive branded by the real manufacturer will get you the same drive for
less money. Then you can decide whether the price premium for the HP brand
name is worth any extra warranty period.

While it likely would be penny wise and pound foolish to purchase a drive
from Indelible Blue here in the USA, their website www.indelible-blue will
let you see what tape drives they are selling. A note to technical support
there will be answered and truth will be told as to the real manufacturer
of the various offerings if you ask.

If time is of the essence and you don't wish to wait until next week,
email me back and I will call I-B today before 2100 your time.



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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
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From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun...               22-Oct-99 14:44:15
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:25
Subj: Re: Backup Software (and DAT3)

Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk

From: Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>

Bob Germer wrote:
> 
> On <381054F2.9837AA75@dundee.ac.uk>, on 10/22/99 at 01:13 PM,
>    Charles Christacopoulos <c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk>
> said:
> 
> > I think I am tempted for an HP drive (yeap, 3 years warranty sounds
> > good).  First attempt would be to use SYTOS and as that too receives no
> > further development if I have to I will opt for PSNS as it comes with
> > the server.
> 
> I would love to SEE the HP drive before purchasing it. A few years ago, I
> would have heartily agreed with you. However, lately HP products have been
> of lower and lower quality in my opinion. I have very little good to say
> about the 600 and 700 and even some of the 800 series deskjet printers
<SNIP>
Only hope is that they still manufacture their "server type" equipment
> 
> While it likely would be penny wise and pound foolish to purchase a drive
> from Indelible Blue here in the USA, their website www.indelible-blue will
> let you see what tape drives they are selling. A note to technical support
> there will be answered and truth will be told as to the real manufacturer
> of the various offerings if you ask.
> 
> If time is of the essence and you don't wish to wait until next week,
> email me back and I will call I-B today before 2100 your time.
Good old intelible-blue.  I went to have a look as you mentioned it and
it has apparently about 750 items that come under storage devices (and
goes on and on and on ...)

Choosing to use OS/2 I am well aware that choice is very limited.  I
have to buy a drive that is likely to have drivers and if I have a
problem I know any backup software company will not want to know (how
many owners has Sytos had?).  If I was using M$ NT that could be
different.  Thus the choice for Sony or HP.  My existing 3 drives are
WangDats.

For this weekend I shall not be purchasing anything. I still have a
4-8Gb to keep me busy.  I have to move the data between two servers and
then two RAID arrays.  I will now go back to look at Sony again.  Thanks
for the tip for indellible blue but purchasing from the US it is not as
easy, especially when you work for a public body like a University.  

Regards
Charles

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From: jrop@verso.st.jyu.fi                              22-Oct-99 14:42:19
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: IBMS506 or VIA's drivers or DaniS506?

From: Janne Ropponen <jrop@verso.st.jyu.fi>

Jakob_Rascher@t-online.de wrote:
> the only driver for the via chipset which work with drives > 8 GB is 
> the danis506.

Well I have a VIA chipset (MVP3) and a 9.1 GB drive (one 
partition). Works fine with IBM1S506.

Actually, my system ONLY works with IBM1S506. With VIA's drivers
I get frequent system hangs and with DANIS506 I get
(depending on the version) anything from frequent hangs
to TRAPs at boot to some SERIOUS hard disk corruption.
Same result with all transfer modes and even /MGAFIX
(yes, I have a Matrox card).

Actually, with the latest beta I get a TRAP at boot and 
the result is that both my 6.5 & 9.1 GB Medalist Pro's 
are so messed up that CHKDSK claims they aren't
even HPFS formatted. Trying to access the drive just
hangs the machine with "error reading spare block" or
something like that.

DANIS506 never worked on my previous intel TX
chipset system either. Everything else on my
computer has changed but my two hard drives -
maybe there's some weird incompatibility between
Dani's and those, although I suspect my
Adaptec SCSI card may have something to do with
the traps and the current version of Dani's.

Well, to make matters interesting, my OTHER 
computer with VIA VPX chipset ONLY works reliably
with DANIS506. With IBM1S506 the hard drive
(Medalist Pro 2.5 GB) corrupts data all the
time (for example, copying a large file to
another name and then comparing them shows
them to be  different!). This problem was related
to my computer's/Seagate's inability to correctly
handle DMA transfers.

Go figure. :)



 - Janne

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