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From: remo@freegates.be                                 18-Oct-99 19:32:25
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: comment On peut créer son E_mail

From: "remo" <remo@freegates.be>

sil vous plais


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                18-Oct-99 14:41:29
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Netscape cache messing up

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Netscape 4.61:  The cache has started messing up in general just recently. 
I've
cleared out both memory cache and disk cache, turned them off etc., but I
still
keep seeing web pages re-download over and over.

And the download restart cache is gone.  Stopping a download from the cancel
button or the exit window click box used to result in a restart picking up
where
it left off, even after Netscape was taken down started.

Something has screwed up here and I have no idea what to do for it.

Help?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: swordedg@ntrnet.net                               19-Oct-99 13:59:06
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:28
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: swordedg@ntrnet.net (David Eckard)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:27:00, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> Well, I can't deny there being some level of pretense in my
> response, but the facts have a clear implication...
>  
> Recent actions taken by Jim L:
> Cleared memory and disk cache; set both to 0 (disabled)
>  
> Expected results of latter action:
> (1) Web pages will not be cached, thereby requiring the
> browser to download them from the server every time.
> (2) Any "temporary" files stored in the cache will be
> removed the next time new files are retrieved (e.g.
> loading a web page).
>  
> Symptoms reported by Jim L:
> (1) "web pages re-downloading over and over"
> (2) Won't continue download after abort; restarts again
>  
> There appears to be a direct correlation, which led me
> to my suggestion that he re-enable the caching.  :)
>  
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
>  
> 

Jeff, there is definately something about the GA 4.61 that pegs my CPU
meter and slows the system to a crawl.

If I let the settings stay at the default, the browser pegs my CPU 
meter ever single time I load this site

http://www.tvguide.com/Listings/FrameBase.asp?F=2&I=61071

or my local are TV schedule.

With the memory cache set to zero, it loads just dandy.  HOWEVER....  
now the PDF files on the job section of the news and observer peg the 
cpu meter.  They, I now download to my hd and load manually.  Works 
better for me that way anyway....

I tried to find out where IBM hid the defect reports but have been 
unsuccessful.  Is that on purpose?



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From: jdye@niu.edu                                      19-Oct-99 09:48:23
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: "James Dye" <jdye@niu.edu>

On 19 Oct 1999 13:59:13 GMT, David Eckard wrote:

|If I let the settings stay at the default, the browser pegs my 
CPU 
|meter ever single time I load this site
|
|http://www.tvguide.com/Listings/FrameBase.asp?F=2&I=6
1071
|
|or my local are TV schedule.
|
|With the memory cache set to zero, it loads just dandy.  
HOWEVER....  
|now the PDF files on the job section of the news and 
observer peg the 
|cpu meter.  They, I now download to my hd and load 
manually.  Works 
|better for me that way anyway....
With 4000K memory cache the TVGuide page mentioned 
loads perfectly fine here, although there are a couple of 
momentary peaks of maybe 85% CPU usage and several 
lesser peaks  around 50%. 


James Dye
Northern Illinois University


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                19-Oct-99 15:28:24
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> said:
>Symptoms reported by Jim L:
>(1) "web pages re-downloading over and over"
>(2) Won't continue download after abort; restarts again

>There appears to be a direct correlation, which led me
>to my suggestion that he re-enable the caching.  :)

My mistake.  I figured the "etc." covered turning them back on.  They are back
to their previous (previously functional) values.

Sooooooooooo, if there is something in addition to putting values in the cache
windows to turn them on, what is it?

Lacking an answer of substance there, what else can I do?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                19-Oct-99 15:30:09
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

swordedg@ntrnet.net (David Eckard) said:

>Jeff, there is definately something about the GA 4.61 that pegs my CPU meter
>and slows the system to a crawl.

I've heard that having no disk cache causes that.

Now...  Do you have a comment on the subject of my thread?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: arnews@dsgml.com                                  19-Oct-99 14:25:07
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: crash in netscape/stack space

From: Ariel <arnews@dsgml.com>

I just got a crash in netscape, the error was insufficient stack space to
execute the exception in M6432.DLL. Any ideas what it is?

	-Ariel

10-19-1999  14:13:55  SYS3171  PID 006c  TID 0001  Slot 006e
C:\BIN\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1f4e8ec6
P1=00000001  P2=00000010  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=01346b90  ECX=00000002  EDX=007c5808
ESI=00000034  EDI=0135c7e0
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005a:1f4e8ec6  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=004a:007fef34  SSACC=d0d3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007fef34  FLG=00012246

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From: psarin@alum.mit.edu                               19-Oct-99 17:08:00
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 19:57:22
Subj: scitech display drivers for os/2 (using voodoo3 2000)

From: Pankaj Sarin <psarin@alum.mit.edu>

hi!  having some trouble with the latest beta of the scitech drivers
(beta 8).  the program/drivers install fine, but when i reboot, it
freezes when os/2 is supposed to switch from text mode to graphics
mode.  C-A-D still works at this point.  Generic GRADD drivers work
fine.  I have a Voodoo3 2000 AGP 16 MB card and a Samsung SyncMaster 6NE
monitor.  Running OS/2 Warp v4 , fixpak 12

thanks for the help!

pankaj

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     19-Oct-99 02:22:25
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:00
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> Netscape 4.61:  The cache has started messing up in general just recently. 
I've
> cleared out both memory cache and disk cache, turned them off etc., but I
still
> keep seeing web pages re-download over and over.

Try turning the caching back ON.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 19-Oct-99 04:37:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <380BD554.CD6FD0B5@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>, "Jeffrey S. Kobal"
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> writes:
>
>lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
>
>> Netscape 4.61:  The cache has started messing up in general just recently.  
I've
>> cleared out both memory cache and disk cache, turned them off etc., but I
still
>> keep seeing web pages re-download over and over.
>
>Try turning the caching back ON.
>

smartass :-)

>Jeffrey S. Kobal
>IBM Corporation
>
>

--
H„rad ’ngravv†rd



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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     19-Oct-99 06:27:00
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:05
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

> >Try turning the caching back ON.
>
> smartass :-)

Well, I can't deny there being some level of pretense in my
response, but the facts have a clear implication...

Recent actions taken by Jim L:
Cleared memory and disk cache; set both to 0 (disabled)

Expected results of latter action:
(1) Web pages will not be cached, thereby requiring the
browser to download them from the server every time.
(2) Any "temporary" files stored in the cache will be
removed the next time new files are retrieved (e.g.
loading a web page).

Symptoms reported by Jim L:
(1) "web pages re-downloading over and over"
(2) Won't continue download after abort; restarts again

There appears to be a direct correlation, which led me
to my suggestion that he re-enable the caching.  :)

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    19-Oct-99 19:05:28
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: crash in netscape/stack space

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

That's part of your ATI video driver. Just start Netscape up again.

Graham.

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     20-Oct-99 03:30:08
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> Sooooooooooo, if there is something in addition to putting values in the
cache
> windows to turn them on, what is it?
>
> Lacking an answer of substance there, what else can I do?

Have you verified that when you are surfing around, files
are being saved in your cache directory?

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     20-Oct-99 03:35:01
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: crash in netscape/stack space

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Ariel wrote:

> I just got a crash in netscape, the error was insufficient stack space to
> execute the exception in M6432.DLL. Any ideas what it is?

That's actually a crash in the video driver, not in Netscape.
The exception occured in the Netscape process, when doing
some video manipulation.  My best suggestion would be to
get the latest level of the video driver.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: worlock@frontiernet.net                           20-Oct-99 00:00:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Scitech display doctor and traps on install....

From: "RichS" <worlock@frontiernet.net>

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I tried posting this info on Scitech's web based news server with no luck, so
I'm posting the info here in case it helps anyone... Floowing is my original
post to Scitech and my
folowup...

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------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- -----

I tried to follow this up with PMINews, but it won't post to this group...

Anyway, I couldn't get back to VGA or any other driver because
any attempt would utilize dspinstl.exe which traps.
I did finally get it back into VGA by manually copying
a lot of files off a floppy driver disk, and then eventually ran
selective install to get me into generic IBM S3 drivers.
dspinstl.exe would still not run. But having some free time
to investigate the problem, I may have found out what the root
of it really was. Dspinstl.exe uses INSCFG32.DLL to modify config.sys.
Apparently either sdd7 or something else added just one too many lines to
my config.sys for inscfg32.dll to handle and it traps as follows:

- ------------------------------------------------------------

10-18-1999  23:16:24  SYS3175  PID 003e  TID 0001  Slot 008e
C:\OS2\INSTALL\DSPINSTL.EXE
c0000005
1d2e5029
P1=00000002  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000007  EBX=00000000  ECX=00000001  EDX=00000000
ESI=10cfd7dc  EDI=00000000
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1d2e5029  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0007bccc  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=0007bcd4  FLG=00012213

INSCFG32.DLL 0001:00005029
- ---------------------------------------------------

The config.sys file had grown to 30+k from remarks entered
by tyra2. I deleted all the remarks, got the file size down to
16k and now dspinstl.exe runs as usual. This may have been the cause
of all the trouble... But at the moment, I'm not going to
try reinstalling SDD. I've had enough of a non-working desktop
and tearing into OS/2 for a while...

Hope this info helps someone else out there...

Rich...



>>I've got an old Dell XPSP75, p75, OS/2 Warp 4 FP10 client
>and an S3 Trio64 video card. I tried to install beta 7 as per
>instructions and wound up with a trap in dspinstl.exe. Result,
>I can't even get back to VGA! I can boot to the command line.
>I've tried to restore my config.sys, os2.ini and os2sys.ini in the
>hopes that would get me back where I started. Nope...
>Apparently SDD7 installs some new files and I can't get back to
>any other display driver at all! Okay, it's a 'beta'...
>But, why the he** can't you supply a list of files and
>locations that are installed so I can go to my tape backup
>and replace them!!! Now I've got a system that's totally worthless
>and my business machine is down untill I can get rid of this junk.
>Someone give me a clue how to reinstall even the vga drivers
>without having to completely reinstall OS/2. With this trap
>I can't get any driver installed now... If anyone needs the log
>files, I can get them off the computer and transfer them with
>floppies so I can send them. Thank goodness I didn't _buy_ this
>software!!!! Right now I'd be happy to just get my machine
>running again, and soon! I wish I would have looked into
>this 'support' before I tried the install....
>
>Thanks for any help...
>
>Rich (who's more angry and frustrated than showing here)
>

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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             20-Oct-99 10:20:24
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:26
Subj: SYS3175 in PMMERGE with Comm/2 4.61 GA

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

Since upgrading to the GA version of Comm/2 4.61 and also FP12
I have started to get crashes using Netscape when doing nothing
special, just starting to download a new page.
In the last case it just said the system is stopped and didn't show
any module names. Sorry, I forgot to note CS:IP.

In a previous case it left the following in POPUPLOG.OS2

10-16-1999  10:11:30  SYS3175  PID 0334  TID 0001  Slot 0060
E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1bdfdef1
P1=00000001  P2=00000103  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=178f0028  EBX=0000057c  ECX=00000060  EDX=00000584
ESI=00000584  EDI=000000ff
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=3503  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
CS:EIP=005b:1bdfdef1  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c60f8  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c6128  FLG=00012206

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:000fdef1

I had no such problems during the beta trials. I was using FP11
then.
Looking back through POPUPLOG the last NC/2 crash I had was
over 3 months ago.

Is the fault in NC/2 GA or pmmerge from FP12?

-- 
Dave

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    20-Oct-99 08:04:18
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Scitech display doctor and traps on install....

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

This problem with Tyra/2 was reported by its author a few weeks ago. I
believe there is a patch for it.

Graham.

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    20-Oct-99 08:09:22
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: crash in netscape/stack space

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

It's very easy to say "get the latest video driver", often however it is
already installed. I have the latest video driver, and I have this same
problem.

Of course the next easy thing to say is "report the problem to the
manufacturer", to which I'd have to point out that persuading almost any
video card manufacturer to update their OS/2 drivers is next to
impossible.

IBM know this of course, which is why they've licensed SDD. Although it
can be perfectly correct to blame the video driver, as it undoubtably is
in this case, a glib "get the latest driver" answer can be very
irritating.

Graham.

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                20-Oct-99 15:02:14
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> said:
>Have you verified that when you are surfing around, files
>are being saved in your cache directory?

Yes, the cache directory "fills up" and the problem remains.

However, whatever it was has fixed itself.  I have done nothing to it for 3 or 
2
days, but suddenly about noon today the re-downloading of web pages stopped. 
I
also checked on the restarting of discontinued downloads.  It is working again
too.

Go figure.  I have no idea.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                20-Oct-99 19:35:27
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:24
Subj: Java Adobe viewer

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

I just downloaded and installed the new Adobe Viewer in Java for OS/2.  I
expected to find an Adobe object on my desktop, but didn't.

Does anyone know how to run this thing?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: worlock@frontiernet.net                           20-Oct-99 21:14:11
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: Scitech display doctor and traps on install....

From: "RichS" <worlock@frontiernet.net>

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I never related any problem with tyra2. It simply added a lot of remarks to
the config.sys (a feature!) until config.sys grew too big for dspinstl.exe to
handle. This is an IBM bug and not tyra2 or Scitech's...

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:04:37 -0700, Graham C. Norris wrote:

>This problem with Tyra/2 was reported by its author a few weeks ago. I
>believe there is a patch for it.
>
>Graham.

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Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff.
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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     21-Oct-99 04:51:06
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: crash in netscape/stack space

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

"Graham C. Norris" wrote:

> It's very easy to say "get the latest video driver", often however it is
> already installed. I have the latest video driver, and I have this same
> problem.
>
> Of course the next easy thing to say is "report the problem to the
> manufacturer", to which I'd have to point out that persuading almost any
> video card manufacturer to update their OS/2 drivers is next to
> impossible.
>
> IBM know this of course, which is why they've licensed SDD. Although it
> can be perfectly correct to blame the video driver, as it undoubtably is
> in this case, a glib "get the latest driver" answer can be very
> irritating.

I didn't think that my answer was "glib" at all.  Updating the
video driver is, as I stated, my best suggestion.  It might not
resolve the problem, but it's the best answer I have.  I would
think that such an answer would be better than getting no
answer at all.

Because the trap is a SYS3171, that means that something is
using up the available stack space, probably through recursion.
Without a way to reproduce the problem in a debug
environment, there would be no way I could determine if the
driver is at fault, or if something calling into the driver is the
culprit.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    20-Oct-99 22:32:08
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: Scitech display doctor and traps on install....

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

Ok, it's not a Tyra/2 bug, but if you didn't use Tyra/2 you wouldn't
have had the problem would you? And since there's apparently a fix on
the way for Tyra/2, its author appears to consider it was worth fixing
this non-bug. In fact, I'll even quote the author's own web page:

"If your change history in the config.sys file grows up long the
dspinstl.exe program which is used during a graphiccard driver install
won't start. So if you encounter any problems during a graphiccard
driver install, or you can't reset you system to VGA during the boot,
you should try to delete the change history from your config.sys file.
It seems to me that the dspinstl.exe reads the config.sys file and try
to find the COUNTRY= and SET LANG= entries. The long section of Comments
at the beginning of the config.sys confuse dspinstl.exe and it will
stop. I will be take care of it in version 1.60." <<<=== Note this.

There's been a lot of hollering and screaming about SDD wrecking systems
from one or two people. I think you were one of them, and I think you
owe SciTech an apology.

Graham.

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From: worlock@frontiernet.net                           21-Oct-99 09:15:24
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:10
Subj: Re: Scitech display doctor and traps on install....

From: "RichS" <worlock@frontiernet.net>

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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:32:16 -0700, Graham C. Norris wrote:

>Ok, it's not a Tyra/2 bug, but if you didn't use Tyra/2 you wouldn't
>have had the problem would you? And since there's apparently a fix on
>the way for Tyra/2, its author appears to consider it was worth fixing
>this non-bug. In fact, I'll even quote the author's own web page:
>
>"If your change history in the config.sys file grows up long the
>dspinstl.exe program which is used during a graphiccard driver install
>won't start. So if you encounter any problems during a graphiccard
>driver install, or you can't reset you system to VGA during the boot,
>you should try to delete the change history from your config.sys file.
>It seems to me that the dspinstl.exe reads the config.sys file and try
>to find the COUNTRY= and SET LANG= entries. The long section of Comments
>at the beginning of the config.sys confuse dspinstl.exe and it will
>stop. I will be take care of it in version 1.60." <<<=== Note this.
>
>There's been a lot of hollering and screaming about SDD wrecking systems
>from one or two people. I think you were one of them, and I think you
>owe SciTech an apology.
>
>Graham.

It's nice that the tyra2 developer has found that problem and is fixing it.
It's not nice that IBM has the bug.
And, NO I do not owe Scitech an appology because my complaint was about not
supplying a list of changed or added files or any other information about
what their install does to the system! This problem with Scitech still
exists. If someone installs SDD and has problems _for any reason_ it makes a
restoration all that much more difficult and in my opinion is inexcusable! I
left only one message on the Scitech newsgroup about the crash and problem
and got no response directly from them. That's not good either! And why
aren't they aware of this problem with the config.sys??? You'd think it would
be pretty important to a company developing a video driver.... No I do not
owe them an appology! If anything, they owe me one for not supplying a list
of changes and a warning about the size of the config.sys file!

******************************************************************************
Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless...Umm...Uhh....
Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff.
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From: mthiv@znetrover.com                               21-Oct-99 13:32:18
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:10
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer

From: mthiv@znetrover.com (Martin T.)

Just click on the AcrobatViewer.cmd. This file is create at the 
installation.

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:35:55, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> I just downloaded and installed the new Adobe Viewer in Java for OS/2.  I
> expected to find an Adobe object on my desktop, but didn't.
> 
> Does anyone know how to run this thing?
> 
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
> 
> 

No-spam delete the 'z'

Martin Thivierge
Quebec, Canada

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From: mthiv@znetrover.com                               21-Oct-99 13:35:27
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:10
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer

From: mthiv@znetrover.com (Martin T.)

Of course the AcrobatViewer.cmd is in the directory where you install 
Adobe Acrobat.

No-spam delete the 'z'

Martin Thivierge
Quebec, Canada

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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 21-Oct-99 16:06:16
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded and installed the new Adobe Viewer in Java for OS/2.  I
> expected to find an Adobe object on my desktop, but didn't.

Do it manually!

Create a program-object (From the program-template-Object) on the
desktop and insert the path for AcrobatViewer.cmd (found in the
folder, you installed Acrobat Reader in) in "Path and filename"
and you've got an AcrobatViewer-object on the desktop!

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    21-Oct-99 07:59:17
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: Scitech display doctor and traps on install....

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

It wasn't the installation of SDD which expanded your CONFIG.SYS until
DSPINSTAL wouldn't work, it was Tyra/2. After you had installed and used
Tyra/2, you had eliminated your ability to reset your system to VGA, the
standard, accepted, method of recovering from a video driver problem. If
you'd tried to update your existing drivers you would have had exactly
the same problem. This is in no way Scitech's fault: they simply cannot
be expected to know everything a user may do to prevent themselves
configuring their system.

Your whole attitude to this has been to blame other people for something
you actually brought on yourself, and I'm not suprised they didn't
respond to you, quite apart from the fact that Scitech are not a huge
organisation with several people available to hand-hold people who have
a problem with what, when all is said and done, is beta software.

Graham.

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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           21-Oct-99 12:11:08
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:11
Subj: Re: SYS3175 in PMMERGE with Comm/2 4.61 GA

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Dave Parsons wrote:

> Since upgrading to the GA version of Comm/2 4.61 and also FP12
> I have started to get crashes using Netscape when doing nothing
> special, just starting to download a new page.
>
> 10-16-1999  10:11:30  SYS3175  PID 0334  TID 0001  Slot 0060
> E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> c0000005
> 1bdfdef1
> P1=00000001  P2=00000103  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
> EAX=178f0028  EBX=0000057c  ECX=00000060  EDX=00000584
> ESI=00000584  EDI=000000ff
> DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
> ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
> FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> GS=3503  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
> CS:EIP=005b:1bdfdef1  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> SS:ESP=0053:007c60f8  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
> EBP=007c6128  FLG=00012206
>
> PMMERGE.DLL 0004:000fdef1

> Is the fault in NC/2 GA or pmmerge from FP12?

I'm afraid it looks like a problem in the FP12 PMMERGE, as
far as I can tell.  At this instruction, the EDI register should be
holding a pointer to the next free block on the heap, but it is
not a valid pointer.  Communicator should not be able to
corrupt the free chain in a PM heap, so I'd have to assume
that a bug was introduced in FP12.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: meins@ll.mit.edu                                  21-Oct-99 15:07:09
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Java Adobe viewer trouble

From: Charles Meins <meins@ll.mit.edu>

I've got the Java Adobe viewer installed, but I can't get it to run 
correctly. When I run AcrobatViewer.cmd either on a commandline or 
through a program object, an OS/2 window comes up that says:

"Launching AcrobatViewer...
[F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer]javapm -mx134217728 com.zerog.lax.LAX 
F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer\AcrobatViewer.lax"
	
and then it stops.  The window title bar says "Completed: 
F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer\AcrobatViewer.cmd" and no more activity occurs.

I tried editing the AcrobatViewer.lax file to reflect my installation 
and Java environment, but it doesn't appear to make a difference.

Are there any other settings that I need to change?

-- 
Chuck Meins, eMail: meins@ll.mit.edu
MIT Lincoln Laboratory, 244 Wood St., M/S S1-237, 02420 Lexington
Tel: 781-981-7386, Fax: 781-981-3330



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From: arnews@dsgml.com                                  21-Oct-99 15:12:25
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: crash in netscape/stack space

From: Ariel <arnews@dsgml.com>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

> I didn't think that my answer was "glib" at all.  Updating the
> video driver is, as I stated, my best suggestion.  It might not
> resolve the problem, but it's the best answer I have.  I would
> think that such an answer would be better than getting no
> answer at all.

And thank you for it :) I am running the latest driver unfortunately - I
might go to an earlier one.
 
> Because the trap is a SYS3171, that means that something is
> using up the available stack space, probably through recursion.
> Without a way to reproduce the problem in a debug
> environment, there would be no way I could determine if the
> driver is at fault, or if something calling into the driver is the
> culprit.

Maybe this will help - I am getting a lot of screen corruption. It never
happened with 4.04 BTW. Although it's obviously a video bug (it corrupts a
lot of the icons on even the desktop, and buttons at the top on windows),
netscape seems to trigger it.

What I noticed that if I scroll quickly, or if I scroll while a page is
still loading, netscape will get very confused about where it's painting
things, for example things in frames will start streaking across other
parts of the window, or the page may scroll right on top of the netscape
buttons.

I happens _much_ more with complex, or semi-complex table based sites.

I have found, that if I try to keep using it, I get a crash. But if I do
refresh from the menu right away, I can still run. However it's not
perfect, since sometimes it crashes before I can get to refresh. (Like if
I scroll from top to bottom with the mouse, and the streaking happens mid
scroll - but the system still has the mouse instruction to scroll to the
bottom queued.)

If a screen shot will help let me know.

	-Ariel

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From: franks@owt.com                                    21-Oct-99 14:36:25
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer trouble

From: "frank schmittroth" <franks@owt.com>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:07:18 GMT, Charles Meins wrote:

>I've got the Java Adobe viewer installed, but I can't get it to run 
>correctly. When I run AcrobatViewer.cmd either on a commandline or 
>through a program object, an OS/2 window comes up that says:
>
>"Launching AcrobatViewer...
>[F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer]javapm -mx134217728 com.zerog.lax.LAX 
>F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer\AcrobatViewer.lax"
>	
>and then it stops.  The window title bar says "Completed: 
>F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer\AcrobatViewer.cmd" and no more activity occurs.
>
>I tried editing the AcrobatViewer.lax file to reflect my installation 
>and Java environment, but it doesn't appear to make a difference.
>
>Are there any other settings that I need to change?
>
>-- 
>Chuck Meins, eMail: meins@ll.mit.edu
>MIT Lincoln Laboratory, 244 Wood St., M/S S1-237, 02420 Lexington
>Tel: 781-981-7386, Fax: 781-981-3330
>
You might want to try running it directly.  If you have the JDK installed,
you can use:

java.exe -classpath d:\Java11\lib\classes.zip;acrobat.jar
com/adobe/acrobat/Viewer

from the directory with the acrobat.jar file.  Works here with Java 1.1.8.

The path to the classes.zip file needs to be changed for your system.
Frank.


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From: gino@lava.net                                     21-Oct-99 13:48:00
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: Scitech display doctor and traps on install....

From: gino@lava.net

In <jbeybpxsebagvreargarg.fjyfic1.pminews@news.frontiernet.net>, on
10/21/99 
   at 09:15 AM, "RichS" <worlock@frontiernet.net> said:

>No I do not owe them an appology! If anything, they owe me one
>for not supplying a list of changes and a warning about the size of the
>config.sys file!

How much $ did you pay for support of this BETA software???

ANYONE beta testing software does so at THEIR OWN risk. That is a given.
Go cry somplace else if you cannot handle the pressure...

I think your mommy is calling, anyway...

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
gino@lava.net

What evil lurks in the hearts of men???
The SHADOW knows...
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      21-Oct-99 20:24:08
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:23
Subj: Re: Rudolph The Rednose Hooters Here

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid       (John Thompson)

In <67821AB23987D311ADB100A0241979E5399B68@news.ykm.com>, cvqupk@hetronet.com
writes:

>THis IS it: The site where they talk about when you are 50 years old.

What? Aging winos with colds?  I can't wait...

-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net)

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      22-Oct-99 01:47:17
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer trouble

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <19991021.15071833@G35PC1.llan>,
  Charles Meins <meins@ll.mit.edu> wrote:

> I've got the Java Adobe viewer installed, but I can't get it to
> run correctly. When I run AcrobatViewer.cmd either on a commandline
> or through a program object, an OS/2 window comes up that says:
>
> "Launching AcrobatViewer...
> [F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer]javapm -mx134217728 com.zerog.lax.LAX
> F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer\AcrobatViewer.lax"
>
> and then it stops.  The window title bar says "Completed:
> F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer\AcrobatViewer.cmd" and no more activity occurs.

Works great here, except for crappy annoying lines through some
graphics, at a surprisingly fast speed. (About 2/3 as fast as the
native OS/2 Viewer(v3) IMHO.)

What version of the JDK do you have installed? Make sure you have 1.1.8
with the recent fixes applied.

Go here:
http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/java/f-feat.htm
for the JDK and here:
ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/118/
for the fixes.

Good luck!

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                21-Oct-99 23:02:18
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer trouble

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

hunters@thunder.indstate.edu said:

>Works great here, except for crappy annoying lines through some
>graphics, at a surprisingly fast speed.

Astonishing!  I have 1.1.8 plus updates.  I never saw anything to slow in my
life.  Paging from one page to the next in a large document takes 20 or 30
seconds.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     22-Oct-99 05:09:23
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:02
Subj: Re: crash in netscape/stack space

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Ariel wrote:

> Maybe this will help - I am getting a lot of screen corruption. It never
> happened with 4.04 BTW. Although it's obviously a video bug (it corrupts a
> lot of the icons on even the desktop, and buttons at the top on windows),
> netscape seems to trigger it.

This is a common phenomenon, since Netscape does a lot of
graphics-intensive work that puts the driver through its paces,
and frequently winds up surfacing bugs in various video drivers.

> What I noticed that if I scroll quickly, or if I scroll while a page is
> still loading, netscape will get very confused about where it's painting
> things, for example things in frames will start streaking across other
> parts of the window, or the page may scroll right on top of the netscape
> buttons.

Eek.  That sure sounds like a screwy video driver to me.  If
switching drivers doesn't help, you might want to try lowering
your resolution and/or color depth, to take some of the stress
off the driver/video card.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation


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From: as@dsgml.com                                      22-Oct-99 02:05:06
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:02
Subj: Re: crash in netscape/stack space

From: Ariel <as@dsgml.com>

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

> Ariel wrote:

> > What I noticed that if I scroll quickly, or if I scroll while a page is
> > still loading, netscape will get very confused about where it's painting
> > things, for example things in frames will start streaking across other
> > parts of the window, or the page may scroll right on top of the netscape
> > buttons.

> Eek.  That sure sounds like a screwy video driver to me.  If
> switching drivers doesn't help, you might want to try lowering
> your resolution and/or color depth, to take some of the stress
> off the driver/video card.

I'll try, but I like my current res (800x600) and my color depth is two
bytes, one byte is too few colors, and 3 would makes things worse.

Also, I did some more testing, and if I scroll with the keyboard, or the
arrows at top/bottom of the scroll bar, I never get any problems at
all. (At least none so far - not proof that it never happens.)

But if I grab the scroll thingy and move it directly (and quickly) I can
cause problems 70% of the time. And only in netscape - and only in version
4.6 Onsale's home page is a very reliable crasher for me. But not a
perfectly reliable one.

Can I ask that you include high speed moving around with the scroll bar
in your testing procedures? (With complex pages.) Because I'm sure you
have access to an ATI mach64 card and drivers - what platform do you test
on BTW?

	-Ariel


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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             22-Oct-99 08:26:23
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: SYS3175 in PMMERGE with Comm/2 4.61 GA

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:11:16, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>
wrote:

> 
> Dave Parsons wrote:
> 
> > Since upgrading to the GA version of Comm/2 4.61 and also FP12
> > I have started to get crashes using Netscape when doing nothing
> > special, just starting to download a new page.
> >
> 
> > Is the fault in NC/2 GA or pmmerge from FP12?
> 
> I'm afraid it looks like a problem in the FP12 PMMERGE, as
> far as I can tell.  At this instruction, the EDI register should be
> holding a pointer to the next free block on the heap, but it is
> not a valid pointer.  Communicator should not be able to
> corrupt the free chain in a PM heap, so I'd have to assume
> that a bug was introduced in FP12.
> 
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> 

Thanks Jeff,
I'll continue with the setup as it is for now and go back to
PMMERGE from FP11 if it becomes too frequent. 

-- 
Dave

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From: Brian@webone.com.au                               22-Oct-99 18:10:16
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer trouble

From: Brian@webone.com.au

In <380fd424$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes:
>hunters@thunder.indstate.edu said:
>
>>Works great here, except for crappy annoying lines through some
>>graphics, at a surprisingly fast speed.
>
>Astonishing!  I have 1.1.8 plus updates.  I never saw anything to slow in my
>life.  Paging from one page to the next in a large document takes 20 or 30
>seconds.

The reason probably is the memory. I am running 128Mb. It takes abot 30Mb
to load this thing then when I try to load a document it comes up with
OUT OF MEMORY!!!.
Still, it is a beta and it has to get better from here.
Note: it looks like it only has the FIND option.
          No SEARCH facility

Brian

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From: whonea@codenet.net                                22-Oct-99 02:00:02
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:21
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer trouble

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:07:18, Charles Meins <meins@ll.mit.edu> wrote:

> I've got the Java Adobe viewer installed, but I can't get it to run 
> correctly. When I run AcrobatViewer.cmd either on a commandline or 
> through a program object, an OS/2 window comes up that says:

Yout're one up on me.  When I run jre -cp install.zip install  to 
install it, it runs a bit then hangs.  Using the verbose option I see 
it hang just after "[Loaded sun/awt/os2/CharToByteWingDings.class from
E:\JAVA11\lib\rt.jar]".  FP 12, latest 1.1.8 updates appiled.  Any 
ideas?

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           22-Oct-99 15:58:26
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:22
Subj: Re: SYS3175 in PMMERGE with Comm/2 4.61 GA

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <380F4934.55B94862@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>, on 10/21/99 
   at 12:11 PM, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> said:

Same here, all sorts of weird memory problems and WPS lockups due to
NC4.61 after installing FP12:

------------------------------------------------------------

10-20-1999  18:16:17  SYS3175  PID 0919  TID 0001  Slot 00c1
C:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1be3bda2
P1=00000001  P2=0000007c  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000000  EBX=00000000  ECX=00000000  EDX=13e8b0d4
ESI=007c49f0  EDI=007c0004  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=08ab  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
CS:EIP=005b:1be3bda2  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c4994  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c49c4  FLG=00012202

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0013bda2

Cheers,
Ivan

>Dave Parsons wrote:

>> Since upgrading to the GA version of Comm/2 4.61 and also FP12
>> I have started to get crashes using Netscape when doing nothing
>> special, just starting to download a new page.
>>
>> 10-16-1999  10:11:30  SYS3175  PID 0334  TID 0001  Slot 0060
>> E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>> c0000005
>> 1bdfdef1
>> P1=00000001  P2=00000103  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
>> EAX=178f0028  EBX=0000057c  ECX=00000060  EDX=00000584
>> ESI=00000584  EDI=000000ff
>> DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>> ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>> FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>> GS=3503  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
>> CS:EIP=005b:1bdfdef1  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>> SS:ESP=0053:007c60f8  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
>> EBP=007c6128  FLG=00012206
>>
>> PMMERGE.DLL 0004:000fdef1

>> Is the fault in NC/2 GA or pmmerge from FP12?

>I'm afraid it looks like a problem in the FP12 PMMERGE, as far as I can
>tell.  At this instruction, the EDI register should be holding a
>pointer to the next free block on the heap, but it is not a valid
>pointer.  Communicator should not be able to corrupt the free chain in
>a PM heap, so I'd have to assume that a bug was introduced in FP12.

>Jeffrey S. Kobal
>IBM Corporation


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From: ccsten@usa.net                                    22-Oct-99 08:53:02
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:25
Subj: Re: SYS3175 in PMMERGE with Comm/2 4.61 GA

From: Terry Norton <ccsten@usa.net>

This must be the usual machine specific problems.  I just applied
FP12 to 2 machine on my LAN.  One is a Cyrix and the other an AMD
CPU.  I'm just not seeing all these problems.  I was having some
SYS3175's due to the 4.6.1 bugs while one was on FP10 and the other
on FP9, but I simply don't see NS misbehaving more with FP12.  The
only time NS 4.6.1 locks my system is when I try to Empty the trash,
but that was before FP12 anyway.


Ivan Adzhubei wrote:
> 
> 
> Same here, all sorts of weird memory problems and WPS lockups due to
> NC4.61 after installing FP12:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 


-- 

Terry Norton
Warped with OS/2

I started out with nothing & still have most of it left.

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From: meins@ll.mit.edu                                  22-Oct-99 11:11:05
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer trouble

From: Chuck Meins <meins@ll.mit.edu>

On 10-21-99, 10:36:50 PM, "frank schmittroth" <franks@owt.com> wrote 
regarding Re: Java Adobe viewer trouble:

> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:07:18 GMT, Charles Meins wrote:

> >I've got the Java Adobe viewer installed, but I can't get it to run
> >correctly. When I run AcrobatViewer.cmd either on a commandline or
> >through a program object, an OS/2 window comes up that says:
> >"Launching AcrobatViewer...
> >[F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer]javapm -mx134217728 com.zerog.lax.LAX
> >F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer\AcrobatViewer.lax"  
> >and then it stops.  The window title bar says "Completed:
> >F:\Acrobat\JavaViewer\AcrobatViewer.cmd" and no more activity occurs.
> >I tried editing the AcrobatViewer.lax file to reflect my installation
> >and Java environment, but it doesn't appear to make a difference.
> >Are there any other settings that I need to change?

(snip)

> You might want to try running it directly.  If you have the JDK 
installed,
> you can use:
>
> java.exe -classpath d:\Java11\lib\classes.zip;acrobat.jar
> com/adobe/acrobat/Viewer
>
> from the directory with the acrobat.jar file.  Works here with Java 
1.1.8.
> The path to the classes.zip file needs to be changed for your system.

Thanks, Frank.  This works fine.

Chuck



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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                22-Oct-99 11:14:27
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer trouble

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Brian@webone.com.au said:
>>Astonishing!  I have 1.1.8 plus updates.  I never saw anything to slow in my
>>life.  Paging from one page to the next in a large document takes 20 or 30
>>seconds.

>The reason probably is the memory. I am running 128Mb. It takes abot 30Mb to
>load this thing then when I try to load a document it comes up with OUT OF
>MEMORY!!!.
>Still, it is a beta and it has to get better from here.

Well, I have 32mb memory and never got anything about out of memory.  Altho my
swap file got rather enormous.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      22-Oct-99 15:55:21
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 14:21:14
Subj: Re: Java Adobe viewer trouble

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <380fd424$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>,
  lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> Astonishing!  I have 1.1.8 plus updates.  I never saw anything so
> slow in my life.  Paging from one page to the next in a large
> document takes 20 or 30 seconds.

Yeah, that's about right... Waaaaay faster than I expected!! :)

Seriously tho, it's really only about 2/3 as slow as the native 3.01
viewer for OS/2. In general, Acrobat has to be the slowest to process
program I have ever used on any platform, and I include the C-64 in
that statement. ;)

--
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hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |


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