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From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu                        15-Oct-99 19:08:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: Help! Candy Barz killed my desktop

From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu (Richard Bumby)

bmwz3@NO_SPAM.home.com (Ronny Hippler) writes:

>	Tried out the latest Candy barz and noticed it had a few glitches 
>so I went to uninstall it (which is too bad I did like the effects) 
>and it locked my machine. upon reboot I got the dreaded "couldn't 
>find a desk top creating temporary blah blah blah" mesage. Well I 
>dug out a semi old but not too dated back up and restored my 
>previous ini files. Well thing were still really hosed most of the 
>objects were gone. So I ran checkini and it got me back to almost 
>normal. the main glitches are:

I guess I won't try the new version of CandyBarz.  I used an older one
for a while, but it didn't seem to get along with my configuration of
Object Desktop, so I dropped it.

The temporary desktop problem is annoying, but not a real disaster.
You can live with it for a while and try some of the fixes that have
been posted.  To use the little command line window in the middle of
your temporary desktop, you need to know the name of the program you
want.  Although you don't have the WPS, you have a fully capable PM
session (or so it seems to me).  Unfortunately, none of the easy fixes
seemed to work for me, and I have always needed to go back to a recent
backup.  I always have one since I use UniMaint.

>1. a ghost drive showing up as a network drive that can't be 
>deleted. 

I have no network, and have never seen the system try to create a
drive on one.  I do have some old desktops that were annoying.  I
could delete most of them, but not their template folders.

>2. when I click on  the "create another" option I get "folder" about
>six times and "new folder" 2-3 times as choices. 

This was enough of a problem that UniMaint included a way to clear it
up.  I haven't had the problem since there was an easy way to get rid
of it.  Maybe IBM fixed it in one of the fixpaks.  

>3. the mm volume controll no longer has an object ID 

You should be able to recreate it with REXX, but I have never needed
that feature so I can't give the details.

>any help would be appreciated. 

Hang in a little longer, someone is sure to fill in the gaps in my
response.
-- 
R. T. Bumby **  Rutgers Math || Amer. Math. Monthly Problems Editor 1992--1996
bumby@math.rutgers.edu       ||   
Telephone:    [USA] 732-445-0277 (full-time message line) FAX 732-445-5530

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From: plunket@eidetic.com                               15-Oct-99 16:35:03
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Tom Plunket <plunket@eidetic.com>

Bones wrote:

> I currently run Win98 on a stand alone system at home. I have 128mgs of RAM
> and it's a P3 550. I want to switch to a more powerful operating system. I
> have used NT before and liked it, but I have been reading a lot about OS2
> and Linux recently.

Stick with Win98, you'll be happier.  On the hardware that you
have you'll realize more speed in '98 than NT, and more
application support than any of the other operating systems.  The
only reason to switch would be because you need something that
one of the other operating systems has that you need, and as you
don't seem to know what the other OSes have, you obviously don't
need their distinctions!

If you're looking for a fun learning project get Linux.
Otherwise, screw it and stick with '98.


-tom!

-- 
Tom Plunket                                        plunket@eidetic.com
video game/3D Studio geek                       http://www.eidetic.com

          You seem familiar.  Have you been in Halas lately?

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From: plunket@eidetic.com                               15-Oct-99 16:36:18
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Tom Plunket <plunket@eidetic.com>

Richard Dakin wrote:

> OS/2 - Don't know, not enough experience
> WINNT - Very solid on my machines
> Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left foot

Obviously Richard doesn't have a lot of experience in software
development, as I would say that it's indeed Windows that caters
to 3 year old development teams:  Look, it's so pretty.  But does
it work?  Sometimes!


-tom!

-- 
Tom Plunket                                        plunket@eidetic.com
video game/3D Studio geek                       http://www.eidetic.com

              The best tagline is the one that you steal.

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From: j.welton@mailcity.com                             15-Oct-99 22:56:27
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: I need help - please

From: j.welton@mailcity.com

In article <37f8308a.0@iridium.webone.com.au>,
  Brian@ wrote:
> >> Didn't have one, DOS partition that is.  I *thought* I was using
> >> OS/2 and would not be dependent on other operating systems.
> >> Your message tells me that is wrong.
>
> I have been using OS2 for 5years, in that time I must have tested
hundreds
> of apps. Needless to say many of them caused me some grief(I test
ALPHA
> stuff too).
>
> A couple of suggestions:
>
> 1)I can recommend having TWO OS2 partitions.
> Partion 1 is your normal OS2 which is as up to date as you like with
all of
> your progs loaded etc.
> Partion 2 is a BASIC vanilla WARP +FP9, no WIN-OS unless you have to,
> and a utility package eg. GRAHAM UTILITIES or GAMMATECH.
> Once you have this partion set up and working never touch it.
> Did I mention that you should not touch it no matter what the
temptation!
> This also includes running Service FIXPACKs which normally want to
update
> everything on your system.
>
> With the above environment in place you can get out of just about
anything.

Thank you.  I now have two 10G hard drives (one a slave).  I am
still a novice with OS/2 and didn't realize I could install OS/2
on two separate partitions just in case one goes belly up on me.

I don't generally try beta programs but the SDD program was advertised
as a "Preview" version and there were several press releases announcing
how IBM had purchased the program to add to future Warp 4 systems.  I
didn't realize a "Preview" version was a beta, I thought it was one
setp up after a beta but not quite ready (for legal rather than
technical reasons) for commercial release.  I have learned my lesson.

> 2) BACKUPS.
> Like everyone else I will get around to backing up my system LATER
OK!
>
> Well, after my recent experiences I have been converted! I have
discovered
> that you require a backup BEFORE you get into trouble. So I have the
following
> two command files.
>
> A)
> /*bkp_CDRIVE.CMD */
> zip -$ -9 -r -S -v k:\CDRIVE_031099 c:\* >k:\CDRIVE_031099.TXT
>
> k is the drive you copy to, c is the drive you copy from > saves the
output.
>
> B)
> unzip K:\CDRIVE_031099
>
> You run this from the root directory of the C drive AFTER running
>
> FORMAT C: /L
>
> assuming you are running HPFS.
>
> You can do all of this from your second partion and be back on air in
a short
> time. NOTE ZIP does a fair bit of compression so it does take some
time.

Again I thank you for this valuable information and I have made note of
it and will practice it religiously.  I have SmartSuite/2 v1.1 and will
look into using Organizer to schedule a time to run the command file on
a routine basis (like late a night) so I always have a freshly updated
backup of my system.

> Hope this helps..........Brian

Yes, it does help very much and your stepping forward with good advice
without making me feel like an idiot helps even more.  Thank you.

Jeff


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From: j.welton@mailcity.com                             15-Oct-99 23:07:28
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:28
Subj: Re: How do I? ESS1688 Sound Card

From: j.welton@mailcity.com

In article <LdJN3.277$dq3.7052@read2.inet.fi>,
  osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) wrote:
> In article <7u6j4d$8s$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, j.welton@mailcity.com says:
>
> >So I'm wondering if anyone has experiened this FP11 or FP12 ESS trap
> >problem and if they were able to find a work-around, other than
buying
>
> Doesn't even the ibm driver version work?
>
>
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/2632ADD962A12DA3852561B20
04F42F4.html
>
> Osmo

Osmo, yes it does work.

I downloaded the file and it appeared to be the same file offered at
the ESS.com site so I had my doubts.  I decided to go to Selective
Install and install the ESS1688 driver from the original Warp 4 CD then
instead of rebooting my system I went through the Ess1688 intall
procedure offered in the file above.  When I tried this same procedure
using the ESS.com file/install program earlier it would not install
unless I selected a different IRQ (IRQ 7) but this time it allowed me
to install on IRQ 5.  I rebooted and my system sounds came right up!

So thank you very much.  I'm now left with on important problem and if
I can solve it then I'll be back to the same wonderful OS/2 system I
had before my system went belly up on me.

You assistance is appreciated.

Jeff


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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   15-Oct-99 22:06:18
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99 
   at 12:50 AM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:

>In <38056ddd$2$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net
>(Harry Travis) writes: >In <7tvfmn$e89$1@nntp5.atl.mindspring.net>, on
>10/12/99  >   at 02:13 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank
>McKenney) said: --snip--
>>>RMVIEW only reports back what Resource Manager-aware drivers report to
>>>it - a driver that doesn't tell the OS/2 Resource Manager that the
>>>driver plans to use (say) IRQ15 can still use the IRQ, but RMVIEW won't
>>>report it ("Hey!  Nobody told ME!").  Since RM was introduced in Warp
>>>(3.0), any pre-3.0 driver fits this description; unfortunately, I
>>>understand it's also true for some post-3.0 drivers (sigh).
>>
>>Not so.  RMVIEW does report it, but not with the /irq option, as it
>>would be reasonable to expect. Instead, try rmview /d  . Then search the
>>output for "irq", and I think every device claiming one  will show up.
>>Dunno why. ..

>Harry,

>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>see what you're talking about?

>          ST506/IDE Controller


<snip >



>Neither of these listings show my "NE2000 clone" LAN adapter using 
>IOA=0x300 and IRQ10.


>Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
>Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
>E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com
I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.

This from rmview /irq

RMVIEW: Physical view
  IRQ Level =  0  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    TIMER_CH_0 
  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    KBD_0 Keyboard
Controller
  IRQ Level =  2  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    PIC_1 
  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_1 Serial
Controller
  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_0 Serial
Controller
  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  FLOPPY_0 Floppy
Controller
  IRQ Level =  7  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  PARALLEL_0 Parallel
Port Adapter
  IRQ Level =  8  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    RTC 
  IRQ Level =  9  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    Crystal
Semiconductor Audio
  IRQ Level = 11  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = SHARED       AIC7870_0  Adaptec
AIC7870
  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    AUX_0 PS/2
Auxiliary Device Controller
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_0 ST506/IDE
Controller

Notice that IRQ 15 isn't shown. It has a cheapie symbios  isa scsi card
on it, assigned with a /override /irq=15 option. 

Here is some of the output from rmview /d


  IRQ Level =  2  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  0  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  8  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  7  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  IRQ Level =  9  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  IRQ Level = 11  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = SHARED       
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    
  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  

Above each of the lines in this excerpt are the gory details of the
device which claims the irq. 


Maybe this selective recovery is foiled by network cards. Haven't there
been numerous reports of challenges to OS/2 presented by some network
cards? 


-- 
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DemostiX
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From: sartory@bellsouth.net                             14-Oct-99 17:00:02
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Athlon memory recognition

From: sartory <sartory@bellsouth.net>

I have a newly-assempled computer using an AMD Athlon
processor & an SD11 motherboard from FIC. One DIMM of 128 MB
is installed & is recognized by other OSes. In the default
installation, Warp4 recognizes 64MB. There is an option in
the BIOS Setup for "Boot RAM>64 M for OS/2", however when
this option is turned on, Warp4 recognizes only about 16 MB
RAM. There is little documentation.

Has anyone else encountered this problem? It appears to be a
bug in the motherboard or BIOS, but I'm not sure whether it
is a specific defect in MY board or a design problem in all
boards. I have not seen any mention of it on the FIC website
or the AMI website. (The BIOS is AMI.)

Any suggestions?

Walt

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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              15-Oct-99 19:14:09
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: VW32S.SYS help

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

What *exactly* are the symptoms of your problem which lead you to
believe VW32S.SYS has anything to do with problems installing FP12?

Graham.

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From: parnott@brooknet.com.au                           16-Oct-99 16:01:16
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 04:21:29
Subj: Re: OD - alternatives?

From: Paul Arnott <parnott@brooknet.com.au>

I have dragged unzip.exe to Warpcenter,given it a pretty icon,then when u
drag/drop a zip file onto it it unzips the zipfile into the folder it (the
zip) is in. Simple!
Paul.

Steve Drewell wrote:

> The main (and probably only) things I use Object Desktop for are the
> enhanced folders and the zip/rar/etc archive utilities. I already use
> Xfolder and can therefore do away with the OD enhanced folders. However,
> it is the zip/rar/etc archive utilities which I'd miss the most should I
> uninstall OD. Are there any decent alternatives to this functionality of
> OD where an archive is shown and treated in a similar way to a normal
> folder, and files can be dragged and dropped to or from the archive?
>
> Cheers,
> Steve

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           16-Oct-99 13:41:13
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 10:34:11
Subj: OS2*.INI constantly updated after FP12 

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <qvaxqbagfcnzzr.fjo6x40.pminews@ftl.msen.com>, on 10/15/99 
   at 08:34 PM, "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me> said:

>:	Chances are when you rebooted your swapper was recreated at a smaller
>:size, freeing up space for the INI files to be written during the normal
>:timed write to disk.  If the problem starts to creep up again, move
>:either your swapper to a different drive (if it isn't on a different
>:drive/partition already), remove unused files/applications, or move your
>:INI files to a different drive/partition with lots of available free
>:space.

>I had the same problem, I havn't seen this error on YEARS.. I get the
>error (sometimes its for C:\OS2\OS2.INI, others its OS2SYS.INI).  Tons
>of free space, 70some megs of free ram, Warp4 fixpak12..  It seems to
>happen after a few days of uptime. It kinda seems to me like a bug in
>fixpak12 itself.. <g>

I haven't seen this particular kind of error message on my Warp 4 FP12
machine (yet? :), but I am experiencing another INI-related oddity of
FP12. Now after I installed FP12, OS/2 seems to insist on updating
OS2*.INI files every 30 secs! This machine was suffering from this bug
(feature?) for years, you may search dejanews for treads on this topic.
However, before FP12 it was doing this once in every 3-5 min, which was
annoying but I kinda got used to live with it. Now it starts doing it
every 30 sec and that's really ridiculous! INI files updates are done in
cache write-through mode (e.g. always writing directly to disk) and WPS
is totally locked during this process, which takes about 6-10 sec each
time. What the hell is doing this to me???

I've read that IBM programmers have changed something called PMDF layer
(in kernel) of FP12 to the level compatible with WSeb kernel, which has
something to do with system error tracing. I do not use any of the Warp
fancy dump/trace/debug utilities, how to disable this darn thing?!! I
tried remming out anything that looks suspisious in my CONFIG.SYS but
that does not help. I am really stuck and thinking of reinstalling my
Warp partition from scratch, but this one is on my main production
server and it will take a lot of work and lots of inconvinience for my
clients and users...

If anybody at IBM is reading this - please, oh please help me! Scott?!!
Irv?!!

Cheers,
Ivan

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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 16-Oct-99 10:17:13
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 10:34:11
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

Andre van Dijk wrote:

<snip>

> >Come on... try OS/2... you'll be impressed.

OS/2 does have many tricks up the slieve!

<snip> 

> I tried recently, VMware crashed :-). But seriously, OS/2 is getting
> less software (Sad!) while Linux is getting more. What about BeOS??

Application-wise BeOS is not a pretty sight!
Globe though, is coming soon in a 2.0 version. (Globe you can
describe as an MS-Works+)!

The applications is feature poor but rock solid!

Oh- there are also many problems with hardware support! Only some
of the newest devices are supported!
Here you really have to be carefull! 

But it boots in only 20 secs! And is perhaps the popular OS today
that utilizes the hardware the best!

The system itself is perhaps the only one that is better than
OS/2, multitasking and multithreading wise and it is even more
object orientated than OS/2...IFAIK even supporting dynamic
drivers!

BTW: I do not think the software situation is desperate!
The weak hearted developers has already dropped off!
Some of them I am sad to miss, ex: Truespectra!
But the situation is quite stabile at the moment!
Small developers is defecting and new are arriving, such is life!

> Or try VMWare...

It works pretty well, but is quite hungry, ressource wise! And
remember it hogs any device it sees, when running Win98!
Also whatever runs inside WmWare is it its own little
world..there are no dataexchange!

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  16-Oct-99 09:54:17
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 10:34:11
Subj: Re: Setup string for file Type?

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

Harald Portig wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:34:45, Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net> wrote:
>
> > Not exactly clear whether you are simply asking for the syntax of the
> > relevant  setup strings for say Program Reference and Program file
> > objects, thus:
> > ASSOCFILTER=
> > ASSOCTYPE=
> > (multiple filename filters and types respectively are delimited with
> > comma's)
> > or asking for default list of filters/types as well?
> > Data objects then subsequently created would inherit these associations.
> >
> > As regards the second part of your question :
> > Assuming OPEN =DEFAULT     (as opposed to SETTINGS which brings up
> > properties notebook) then I suspect you need to play with DEFAULTVIEW=
> > again SETTINGS(notebook properties), DEFAULT(as defined by object class)
> > or a number (for special class defined view) but I suspect the latter is
> > not going to easily achieve what you actually desire as generally you
> > are limited to child classes of WPDataFile such as OS/2 installed
> > defaults of WPBitmap, WPIcon, WPMet, WPPif, WPPointer, WPProgramFile,
> > WPCommandFile etc?. (and of course any
> > other new classes registered by subsequent apps you install).
> > EG You may find that DEFAULTVIEW=4096 for those data objects derived
> > from WPDataFile will associate to OS/2 System "E" Editor or 20587
> > associates objects  of WPWordObj class to WordPro etc.....
> >
> > Thus these are the 3 basic ways to associate a data object with an
> > executable(cmd,exe,com):
> > 1. By Association type
> > 2. By Association filter
> > 3. By it's WP class.
> >
>        (Snip)
>
> My specific question came from trying to automate the procedure to set
> up the program SPIKE.EXE (OS/2 SIG, Vancouver, 1996).  It involves
> creating a data object (WPDataFile), going to the "Type" tab in the
> settings noteboot, creating a New Type, say "SpikeFile", and then
> making this new data object be both a "SpikeFile" and a "Plain Text"
> file.  After that a program object is created that invokes SPIKE.EXE
> and is associated to file type "SpikeFile".
>
> Setting up the program is no problem using ASSOCTYPE=SpikeFile.
> However setting up the data file to be of type "SpikeFile" is what I
> don't know how to do by using a setup string.  Here is the input data
> to "MakeDesk".
>
> Title     SpikeFile
> Class     WPDataFile
> Location  <WP_DESKTOP>
> ObjectID  <HP_SpikeFile>
>
> How is the type specified?
>
> When I set up the object by hand and then apply Kenk Kelder's
> GETSET.CMD to it nothing resembling "type" is disclosed except
> possibly "DEFAULTVIEW=4096".

If you create a new WPDataFile object on your desktop (or anywhere else)
if it doesn't already exist (and thus of course subject to what
UPDATE/REPLACE/FAIL flags are used in SysCreateObject) then an explicit
TYPE EA won't be assigned apparently.   It will use whatever defaults
are set (eg OS/2 System Editor). IE those indirectly assigned by virtue
of the properties of the WPclass.

If you then go into gui and assign a new type SPIKEFILE whatever then
you have to set DEFAULTVIEW to open the object with this type (you do
this via GUI with MENU > PROPERTIES ).
Thus if DEFAULTVIEW=4096 corresponds to OS/2 System editor
and is only default then 4097 might (hopefully) correspond to setting
SPIKEFILE to be the default.
EG On my system I have both OS/2 System and Enhanced Editor so adding a
new one gives me 4098 (perhaps).
No doubt Henk could knock you up a quick (sub)class of WPDatafile that
does explicitly what you want - if he had both the time and the
inclination <vbg>.

In meantime theoretically you would have to use SysPutEA using ".type"
but experimenting with EA's (particularly if your FS is FAT<g>) could be
extremely detrimental to both your sanity and the well being of your OS.
For instance when retrieving ".type" there are 11 preceding binary chars
that would have to be correctly set (that I believe are a multiple
"type" field,length and field delimiters etc) before you parse the ASCII
"Spikefile" whatever.....
Remember that INI's are not the only (albeit most important) part of
WPS/Desktop but also are integrated with file system Extended
attributes.
Admittedly the EA's in the Desktop directory structure are the most
vital but also "loosing" EA's on files outside of the desktop structure
(although not generally fatal) could result in loosing exactly these
explicit type associations.

Of course your original question "begs" more than just this simplistic
answer:

1. Is your actual purpose to actually create a new file explicitly on
Desktop?

2. If so then remember when you backup you desktop you'll be not only
backingup the desktop structure + EA's but also any data that is
subsequently entered in this file. It may well be you deliberately chose
this location for precisely those reasons?

3. It may well then be more prudent (and safer)to use say SysCopyObject
from original already correctly setup but if this is via a non EA
supported medium then you need the additional step of copying file and
also splitting off and copying EA's.

4.Additionally to make the system more portable/flexible you may even
have to chase object handles in .classinfo of EA in order to correctly
determine/set the default view if you later changed any system defaults
and needed to recreate the file?

As I'm still dealing with the "fallout" on my system caused by
experimenting with Nowhere directory/EA's instigated by an earlier Uncle
Ray Tennisbum question I havn't yet "experimented" along these lines
completely in order to validate my "half-baked" theory so I suggest you
consider awaiting more authoritative comments from the likes of Henk
Kelder and his ilk........ at least someone more practically versed in
the intimate entrails of the WPS and file system....  <g>
There may well be more elegant (and safer) approaches to applying the
explicit type and default opening behaviour but I don't think you'll
find these programmatically using the standard REXX UTIL extensions.
(and for reasons stated thus not as an additional SETUP string for
standard WP_DataFile object in INI's<g>)

Having said that if you have suitable backups and/or test partition then
I'm sure a little empirical experimentation along these lines will
produce a crude "work-around" for the result you want.

No doubt this "muddies the waters" sufficiently! <vbg>.....

> Thanks,
> Harald Portig



--
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"

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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               16-Oct-99 17:04:21
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Bones wrote:

> I currently run Win98 on a stand alone system at home. I have 128mgs of RAM
> and it's a P3 550. I want to switch to a more powerful operating system. I
> have used NT before and liked it, but I have been reading a lot about OS2
> and Linux recently.
>

Your hardware seems to need a better operating system than Win 9x to make
fulluse of it.

> ...
> 1) I am a fairly technically apt person, but I am not a technical
> professional. Which of these will probably be easiest to install?

That will depend on details in your configuration. Even the newest Linux
distributions are much more difficult to install than either OS/2 or NT, but
not worse than that most  experienced people manage if they read up on the
documentation before they start.

>
> 2) Regardless of which system I choose, will I need to reformat the hard
> drive first, or will if I choose NT will I be able to install on top of
> Win98?

It will always be easier to install on a clean disk. It is not generally
possible or adviceable to install NT over a Win 9x system. The problem with
Win
9x, is that it does not have any good and reliable file system.

>
> 3) Will OS2 and Linux run Window applications like MS Office, Quicken as
> well as lesser known applications?

No, the MS suites are more or less designed not to work under other operating
systems than Win 9x and NT. There are other programs which in many ways work
better, especially if you do not want to get infected by virus-like attacks.


>
> 4) Can OS2 and Linus rund new SCSI controllers, scanners, monitors, modems,
> network cards as easily as Microsoft?

OS/2 has the best SCSI support, especially in the high-performance area like
IIO. It is more restricted in the scanner and cheap modem area. Monitors are
not an issue.

NT and OS/2 are not geared towards low-end devices, and it is highly
adviceable
to use only SCSI disk drives with those systems. Linux has more leaning
towards
cheap hardware, but itcan be rather daunting to install support for some
hardware.

>
> 4) If I decide on NT, would I be better off waiting for Windows 2000?
>

Depends on your needs. It may be possible to get a free upgrade ifyou purchase
it now.
Thes eoperating systems are not really interchangeable. What is best for you
dependson what you will use it for.

OS/2 is by far the best desktop system, but NT has a good software selection
ifyou want picture manipulation or desktop publishing. OS/2 has a set of free
POSIX-style libraries (emx and gnu) which will let you use the same
applications as Linux, but then you will also have the same rather inelegant
installation job. It will probably get access to Win32 programs, but it is a
voulonteer project which may still take many months. It has the best Java
support, and a very good TCP/IP implementation.

NT has the best mainstream software selection, but is ironically enough not as
good as OS/2 at running old DOS and Windows 3.x programs. Java performance is
a
bit lackluster, but improving. TCP/IP support is quite good, but some of the
Internet software will not perform in a quite standard way unless you
reconfigure it. This is most noticeable with ISPs running NT. You will usually
need morepowerful hardware for a given performance with NT than with the
others.

Linux is ideal for those who like to really work on their operating system
rather than use it only as just a tool. A knowledgeable person can do more
tweaking than with the other systems. It is easier to use than a proper UNIX
system, but has a much higher threshold than OS/2 or NT. Java performance is
poor, but likely to see great improvements in the future. It is more a server
operating system than a desktop system, although it is fine for traditional
software development in c/c++. It can run on weaker hardware than the others
until you install the two different graphical environments you will probably
need.

I use OS/2 both as my primary desktop OS and as my main server OS, but I work
mostly with networking, standards-compliant Internet applications,
documentation,  heavy databases and software development in several languages.
It is not a very good choice for gamers or graphics artists.

I have used NT, but abandoned it because I do not need any software which is
only available on that platform. I have Red Hat Linux 6.0, but do not really
see it as ripe for general desktop usage.
It is, however, very nice to have it on an old PC in the network.


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From: jerryw12@home.com                                 16-Oct-99 15:19:24
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 14:29:07
Subj: Re: I Quit

From: jerryw12 <jerryw12@home.com>

hi there

            Yes my vibra16 works very well, i used the   sb16 pnp
selection at setup and it works just fine.

Ray wrote:

> OS/2 WARP may be a fine operating system, but after three months of no
> help, from IBM or the news groups, to fix a seemingly simple problem, I
> quit.
>
> I have had no problem with DOS and WIN 3.1 on co-existing on this WARP
> machine, but WARP was unable to recognize the Vibra 16 SB card so that I
> could have sound and use my voice response. (The box made it sound neat)
>
> I have re-formatted and put back on a stable version of Windows 95.
> Seems to be plenty of help out there for that, although I didn't need
> it, all hardware was recognized.
>
> Sometime in the future I may dabble in OS/2 again, but for right now, it
> was $200 dollars wasted.
>
> Dissappointed Ray in Seattle

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From: infoxchg@cajun.net                                16-Oct-99 11:02:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: FP 11 Problems

From: "Steven Cox" <infoxchg@cajun.net>

Hello All,

I did an online install of fp11.  All went well until I restarted.  Because I
am using a ESS sound card, it would not reboot.   I removed the ESS drivers
from config,sys & managed to get through the boot fine.  I decided to wait
for a while before I corrected the sound problem to see if anything else was
affected.

Now when I try to open folders or start some programs, the WPS either freezes
or shutsdown & restarts.  It seems to be only affected when I am accessing a
DOS directory or program.

If I am using the drives icon on the Warpcenter it will freeze.  If I have a
drive open it tends to shutdown & restart the WPS.

Any ideas on what I need to do to fix this.


Steven


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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              16-Oct-99 09:50:00
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: Re: VW32S.SYS help

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

There are 1820 messages in this group that I can see. Maybe you should
try Netscape instead of Outlook Express, and allow it to download all
the headers. Maybe Outlook Express has a similar option.

VW32S.SYS is, to the best of my knowledge, the Win32S support driver
included with Win-OS2. Win32S has to be installed separately. On my
system VW32S.SYS is in my x:\OS2\MDOS directory, I assume that is where
yours is, and mine is stamped 1999/04/01 17:26 and is 18,336 bytes. I
doubt FP12 put it there on my system as I think it is old enough for
FP10 to have done it.

It is really quite difficult reading your post, at least for my poor old
brain. Could you please try to capitalize the first letter of sentences
and use paragraphs? My feeling is that if you managed to unzip the FP
files, they are probably intact. Are you using the correct CSF tool? Old
ones won't work properly.

Graham.

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From: Meerkerk@ddsw.nl                                  16-Oct-99 18:45:27
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: Dual OS2/Win95

From: "Nymphaea" <Meerkerk@ddsw.nl>

Hi,

On my laptop I have installed Windows 95. I also want to install OS2 (3),
which I did also with a laptop using dos/win 3.1.

Is this possible?
Can I get the bootloader or do I need to change partitions (Now, it's only
one) for that?
Can I expect any problems with those two OS's?

Thanx in advance
Johan


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From: thrillmstr@mindspring.com                         16-Oct-99 13:01:16
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: Re: VW32S.SYS help

From: "John Griffin" <thrillmstr@mindspring.com>

i'm using outlook becuz i have a plain install of 98 just for games. And its
easier to use this as opposed to 640x480 vga in os2. but its no use. i have
done everything i know (deleted all files the readme's say to) ran checkdsk
(new and old). i think i an going to wait a for fp13 to come out. and go
back to fp11. this is the only fixpak i have had any trouble with.


Graham C. Norris wrote in message <3808ACB8.9435862F@linkline.com>...
>There are 1820 messages in this group that I can see. Maybe you should
>try Netscape instead of Outlook Express, and allow it to download all
>the headers. Maybe Outlook Express has a similar option.
>
>VW32S.SYS is, to the best of my knowledge, the Win32S support driver
>included with Win-OS2. Win32S has to be installed separately. On my
>system VW32S.SYS is in my x:\OS2\MDOS directory, I assume that is where
>yours is, and mine is stamped 1999/04/01 17:26 and is 18,336 bytes. I
>doubt FP12 put it there on my system as I think it is old enough for
>FP10 to have done it.
>
>It is really quite difficult reading your post, at least for my poor old
>brain. Could you please try to capitalize the first letter of sentences
>and use paragraphs? My feeling is that if you managed to unzip the FP
>files, they are probably intact. Are you using the correct CSF tool? Old
>ones won't work properly.
>
>Graham.


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From: mzschoch@bc.sympatico.ca                          16-Oct-99 11:06:07
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:01
Subj: Installing OS/2 Warp 4.0 after Win98, FreeBSD?

From: "M. Zschoch" <mzschoch@bc.sympatico.ca>

Greetings all,

I'm trying to duplicate a colleague's problem and want to know if it's
possible to install Warp 4.0 on a second disk and use the FreeBSD boot
loader to boot it.

I have two IDE hard disks. The first is split between Win98 and FreeBSD and
I am using the FreeBSD boot loader to switch between the two. The second
disk is unused.

Is there any way of installing Warp 4.0 on the second and adding an entry in
the FreeBSD boot loader?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Mark



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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          16-Oct-99 17:08:20
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Tom Plunket <plunket@eidetic.com> wrote in message
news:VboHONaiBj72US+BBb4f44BmtBYz@4ax.com...
> Richard Dakin wrote:
>
> > OS/2 - Don't know, not enough experience
> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left
foot
>
> Obviously Richard doesn't have a lot of experience in software
> development, as I would say that it's indeed Windows that caters
> to 3 year old development teams:  Look, it's so pretty.  But does
> it work?  Sometimes!

You misread line 2 of my post.  Here it is again "WINNT - Very solid on my
machines".
No complaints here.


--
Richard Dakin

+++ No email please +++


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From: jbrush@aros.net                                   16-Oct-99 12:14:03
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:02
Subj: Re: Dual OS2/Win95

From: jbrush@aros.net

>On my laptop I have installed Windows 95. I also want to install OS2 (3),
>which I did also with a laptop using dos/win 3.1.

I have that setup, and in fact have W3.1 as well. use the boot manager to
switch between C: which is dos/win and D: for OS/2  

If you install DOS/Win3.1, then W95, on the C: drive, you can pick any of
the three, or you can boot D: and use OS/2

Never had any problems. Just don't ever use any disk utilities from
Microsoft land, such as defrag, or fdisk. Let OS/2 handle that stuff for
you. The M$ stuff will kill Warp if it sees it.

John


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From: khalsa@ibm.net                                    16-Oct-99 15:00:25
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 16:44:02
Subj: "Static Resource Conflict"???

From: Sat Nam Singh <khalsa@ibm.net>

I just upgraded my 486 66 motherboard with a low buck Alton 715 slot 1
w/celeron 300a 370 pin & adapter.  Also, I stuck in 2-16meg 72 pin EDO
cause the two FPM parity chips I had were not the same # of megs (wasn't
required on this 486).

Although it booted fine otherwise, it now runs many times slower than
the 486 did!!!

Upon boot, the BIOS routine reports "Static Resource Conflict."   How
can I identity this and could it be responsible for the speed problem??

Specs:

CMOS is set to 300 Celeron
Boot recognizes 32 Meg EDO
Motherboard Sound was disabled (I noted the boot PCI PNP recognition
before and after and it had been eliminated after the jumper switch.)

Alton 715 motherboard w/Slot 1, EX/LX chipset (66 FSB only) AGP slot
(unused)
2-16 meg Simms (slot 0,1; mb has total capacitiy for 4 Simm, 2 Dimm)
Onboard IDE
Onboard sound disabled (no cable yet)
Celeron 300A PPGA 370 pin with slot 1 adapter card
Diamond Stealth 3D 2000, 2meg PCI
1.2 GB hard drive (Primary Master)
24X Acer CDRom (Secondary Master)



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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         16-Oct-99 21:25:03
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:08:40 +0100, Richard Dakin wrote:
>> > OS/2 - Don't know, not enough experience
>> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
>> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left
>foot

You appear to be an ignorant troll.

If you're going to post childish Linux bashing, atleast have the courtesy
to restrict it to Microsoft newsgroups where the other lemmings can properly
appreciate it.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: bhk@dsl.co.uk                                     16-Oct-99 22:02:13
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly})

On Thursday, in article
     <LGsN3.1173$Ob.8242@typhoon3.tampabay.rr.com>
     bellerto@cfl.rr.com "BeLlErTo" wrote:

> Its really not that hard to decide....
> 
> OS2 - SUX
> WINNT - crashes like Win95 but is more complicated to solve problems.
> Linux - Linux
> 
> You can use Star Office and a bunch of other Corel apps to replace MS Office
> etc...

You write as if StarOffice were a Linux-exclusive product.  It exists in
versions for each of OS/2, Linux, Solaris (both SPARC and x86 variants),
*and* for Windoze.

IIRC, the OS/2 version was the *first* release of this fine M$ Office
replacement.

Moreover, it's FREE (well, the cost of a 68MB download).

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
    "But we're a university.  We /have/ to have a library!..."said Ridcully,
         "What sort of people would we be if we didn't go into the library?"
    "Students", said the Senior Wrangler, morosely. [TP: The Last Continent]

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From: infoxchg@cajun.net                                16-Oct-99 16:36:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 19:52:08
Subj: fp 11 problems

From: "Steven Cox" <infoxchg@cajun.net>

Hello All,

I did an online install of fp11.  All went well until I restarted.  Because I
am using a ESS sound card, it would not reboot.   I removed the ESS drivers
from config,sys & managed to get through the boot fine.  I decided to wait
for a while before I corrected the sound problem to see if anything else was
affected.

Now when I try to open folders or start some programs, the WPS either freezes
or shutsdown & restarts.  It seems to be only affected when I am accessing a
DOS directory or program.

If I am using the drives icon on the Warpcenter it will freeze.  If I have a
drive open it tends to shutdown & restart the WPS.

Any ideas on what I need to do to fix this.


Steven



Steven


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From: possum@tree.branch                                16-Oct-99 22:42:02
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:03
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: possum@tree.branch (Mike Trettel)

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:08:28 -0700, Bones <oskib@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I currently run Win98 on a stand alone system at home. I have 128mgs of RAM
>and it's a P3 550. I want to switch to a more powerful operating system. I
>have used NT before and liked it, but I have been reading a lot about OS2
>and Linux recently.
>
>I have a couple of questions:
>
>1) I am a fairly technically apt person, but I am not a technical
>professional. Which of these will probably be easiest to install?
>2) Regardless of which system I choose, will I need to reformat the hard
>drive first, or will if I choose NT will I be able to install on top of
>Win98?
>3) Will OS2 and Linux run Window applications like MS Office, Quicken as
>well as lesser known applications?

Linux can run Win 3.1 apps using WABI (a commercial app, no longer
supported), and some Win16/32 apps using WINE.  WINE is very alpha-works
great for some things and not at all for others.  OS/2 runs Win 3.1 apps
very well-better than Windows 95 and/or NT in most cases.  It will not run
Win32 apps except for the small set that can be converted via the
Win32/OS2 project (now called ODIN).  In fact, some Win 3.1 apps run so
well under OS/2 (such as Wordperfect 7) that you would swear that they are
"native".  Overall, if Windows compatability is important to you you're
better off with OS/2.  Otherwise, choose NT-it will run 99% of all Win32
apps and Win 3.1 apps.

>4) Can OS2 and Linus rund new SCSI controllers, scanners, monitors, modems,
>network cards as easily as Microsoft?

Any decent SCSI adapter will be well supported under OS/2 and/or Linux.
For best results, choose a well known adapter such as the Adaptec 2940UW,
Mylex BT-958, Symbios 875SP, or Tekram.  In both cases you should use a
scsi scanner, and real modems (no winmodems).  Too many network cards to
pick from!  

>4) If I decide on NT, would I be better off waiting for
Windows 2000? >

Couldn't say, I don't have the W2K beta.
>
>Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks




-- 
===========
Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net

I don't buy from spammers.  No exceptions.  Fix the reply line to mail me.

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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     16-Oct-99 23:37:10
  To: All                                               16-Oct-99 21:21:03
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

 [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc - sorry I missed this before]

    ...On IRQ use reported by RMVIEW with no associated driver...

In <3807dde0$1001$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net
(Harry Travis) writes:
>In <7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99 
>   at 12:50 AM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:
--snip--
>>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>>see what you're talking about?
--snip--
>I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.
>
>This from rmview /irq
>
>RMVIEW: Physical view
--snip--
>Notice that IRQ 15 isn't shown. It has a cheapie symbios  isa scsi card
>on it, assigned with a /override /irq=15 option. 

>Here is some of the output from rmview /d

--snip--
>IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
--snip--

>Above each of the lines in this excerpt are the gory details of the
>device which claims the irq. 

Harry,

I believe you're seeing what you're seeing... I just wish I could 
make some sense of it. (;-)

>Maybe this selective recovery is foiled by network cards. Haven't there
>been numerous reports of challenges to OS/2 presented by some network
>cards? 

The only NIC-related problem I remember was with the OS/2 hardware 
detection software "probing" address 0x300 for (IIRC) CDROMs and 
managing to mess up some NE2000 clones so badly the system would lock up
hard. As far as I know all that affected was the _choice_ of driver to 
be installed, not the specifics of how that driver worked after it was 
loaded.

Is there anything helpful in the RMVIEW /D output surrounding its IRQ15
entry?  I can come up with a few ideas of what might be happening (but
nothing I'd care to be quoted on (;-)):

 1) The ROM BIOS probe is detecting the use of IRQ15 but isn't sure how 
    it gets used.

 2) Card has Shrug'n'Pray support and _that_ is being detected by that 
    probe.

 3) The SYMBIOS driver reports its IRQ use to RM (Resource Manager) but 
    not its name (???).

 4) IBM1S506 checks both IRQ14 and IRQ15 and gets responses back for 
    both... then realizes that only the first IDE channel is "active".

And I'm sure others can come up with even more ideas. Bottom line is, I 
just don't know.

Sorry... anyone else?


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: tiemannj@gmx.de                                   17-Oct-99 01:44:21
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:11
Subj: Re: OD - alternatives?

From: Joerg Tiemann <tiemannj@gmx.de>

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:34:00 +0100, Steve Drewell wrote:
> The main (and probably only) things I use Object Desktop for are the
> enhanced folders and the zip/rar/etc archive utilities. [...] 
> Are there any decent alternatives to this functionality of
> OD where an archive is shown and treated in a similar way to a normal
> folder, and files can be dragged and dropped to or from the archive?

  I'm not familiar with OD and its' features, so this is a wild guess. 
On hobbes (and probably pretty much everywhere else) there is an archive
named af0_32b.zip.  The File_ID.DIZ:

# AF - The Archive Folder, v. 0.32.
# 32-bit, multithreaded PM archive
# manager. Supports EA's and Drag'n'Drop.
# Simulates a standard WPS folder.
# Uses the ARCHIVER.BB2 file format.
# Includes Archive Registry to define new archivers.
# FreeWare.

	HTH, Joerg
-- 
"History shows that Microsoft can be beaten." 
 -- John C. Dvorak, September 10, 1996 PC Magazine

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From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net                              17-Oct-99 02:22:24
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: Re: Setup string for file Type?

From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net (Harald Portig)

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 08:54:34, Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net> wrote:
 
> If you create a new WPDataFile object on your desktop (or anywhere else)
> if it doesn't already exist (and thus of course subject to what
> UPDATE/REPLACE/FAIL flags are used in SysCreateObject) then an explicit
> TYPE EA won't be assigned apparently.   It will use whatever defaults
> are set (eg OS/2 System Editor). IE those indirectly assigned by virtue
> of the properties of the WPclass.
> 
> If you then go into gui and assign a new type SPIKEFILE whatever then
> you have to set DEFAULTVIEW to open the object with this type (you do
> this via GUI with MENU > PROPERTIES ).
> Thus if DEFAULTVIEW=4096 corresponds to OS/2 System editor
> and is only default then 4097 might (hopefully) correspond to setting
> SPIKEFILE to be the default.
> EG On my system I have both OS/2 System and Enhanced Editor so adding a
> new one gives me 4098 (perhaps).
> No doubt Henk could knock you up a quick (sub)class of WPDatafile that
> does explicitly what you want - if he had both the time and the
> inclination <vbg>.
> 
> In meantime theoretically you would have to use SysPutEA using ".type"
> but experimenting with EA's (particularly if your FS is FAT<g>) could be
> extremely detrimental to both your sanity and the well being of your OS.
> For instance when retrieving ".type" there are 11 preceding binary chars
> that would have to be correctly set (that I believe are a multiple
> "type" field,length and field delimiters etc) before you parse the ASCII
> "Spikefile" whatever.....
> Remember that INI's are not the only (albeit most important) part of
> WPS/Desktop but also are integrated with file system Extended
> attributes.
> Admittedly the EA's in the Desktop directory structure are the most
> vital but also "loosing" EA's on files outside of the desktop structure
> (although not generally fatal) could result in loosing exactly these
> explicit type associations.
> 
> Of course your original question "begs" more than just this simplistic
> answer:
> 
> 1. Is your actual purpose to actually create a new file explicitly on
> Desktop?
> 
> 2. If so then remember when you backup you desktop you'll be not only
> backingup the desktop structure + EA's but also any data that is
> subsequently entered in this file. It may well be you deliberately chose
> this location for precisely those reasons?
> 
> 3. It may well then be more prudent (and safer)to use say SysCopyObject
> from original already correctly setup but if this is via a non EA
> supported medium then you need the additional step of copying file and
> also splitting off and copying EA's.
> 
> 4.Additionally to make the system more portable/flexible you may even
> have to chase object handles in .classinfo of EA in order to correctly
> determine/set the default view if you later changed any system defaults
> and needed to recreate the file?
> 
> As I'm still dealing with the "fallout" on my system caused by
> experimenting with Nowhere directory/EA's instigated by an earlier Uncle
> Ray Tennisbum question I havn't yet "experimented" along these lines
> completely in order to validate my "half-baked" theory so I suggest you
> consider awaiting more authoritative comments from the likes of Henk
> Kelder and his ilk........ at least someone more practically versed in
> the intimate entrails of the WPS and file system....  <g>
> There may well be more elegant (and safer) approaches to applying the
> explicit type and default opening behaviour but I don't think you'll
> find these programmatically using the standard REXX UTIL extensions.
> (and for reasons stated thus not as an additional SETUP string for
> standard WP_DataFile object in INI's<g>)
> 
> Having said that if you have suitable backups and/or test partition then
> I'm sure a little empirical experimentation along these lines will
> produce a crude "work-around" for the result you want.
> 
> No doubt this "muddies the waters" sufficiently! <vbg>.....
 
Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

I didn't realize until this discussion that the type is stored in an 
EA.  Looking at the contents of the ".TYPE" EA I found the eleven 
bytes mentioned by you.  I agree that to get and set Types gets messy 
quickly.

The creation of a new ASSOCTYPE using SysCreateObject, on the other 
hand, is very easy.  All it takes is to create a new program object 
and specifying a new one in "ASSOCTYPE=...".

Deleting it seems harder, but I was able to do it by means of UNImaint
and also using Henk Kelder's Association Editor.  If some data object 
still is of this type, the deleted type's link to an associated 
program object is lost.  The EA that contains the type still exists.  
Using the data object's Properties notebook one can then remove the 
type, but then it reappears in the list of ASSOCTYPEs and can again be
deleted using, say, UNImaint.

Considering what I was considering doing when I opened this thread and
the complication involved in doing it I will not persue this further, 
but will set up the objects I need by GUI.

Thanks again,
Harald Portig

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From: alexsam@idirect.com                               17-Oct-99 03:50:26
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 03:47:12
Subj: Cable modems

From: alexsam@idirect.com (as)

I'd be interested to hear from anyone already using a
cable modem.  What was required to get things running
in os/2 once the cable company installs the hardware, 
modem and internet card.  Obvisously i won't be using
a dialer, so how and what do i need to configure for 
a) one standalone computer and 
b) if possible a second computer tied into the first 
computer so either can surf the net.



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From: prayer5@my-deja.com                               17-Oct-99 06:18:12
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 05:16:24
Subj: How do I fix bad HPFS partition?

From: prayer5@my-deja.com

For last 5 years I have fixed failures with my FAT partitions two or
more times per year and have gotten pretty successful at it. Now after
5 years of good running with HPFS one of those partitions suddenly went
bad. CHECKDSK /F finds a few failures then hits one that leaves a
message that the disk "S" is stopped.  I get a report of "0" bytes
for "S". A DIR command gets the message that the disk is stopped,
please run checkdsk /f.

I can run norton v6 in a dos window and see that the bytes are still in
the partition. Something is wrong that I need to "fix".  In a FAT disk
usually a FAT table or some section of directory or other would be
damaged and I could fix that. Where can I find references on HPFS
structure so I can figure out what is wrong with this disk and fix the
bad bytes and get it running again?


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                17-Oct-99 09:08:07
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 10:24:05
Subj: Re: OD - alternatives?

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:34:00, Steve Drewell 
<bd83h@bedford.waii.com> wrote:

îThe main (and probably only) things I use Object Desktop for are the
îenhanced folders and the zip/rar/etc archive utilities. I already use
îXfolder and can therefore do away with the OD enhanced folders. However,
îit is the zip/rar/etc archive utilities which I'd miss the most should I
îuninstall OD. Are there any decent alternatives to this functionality of
îOD where an archive is shown and treated in a similar way to a normal
îfolder, and files can be dragged and dropped to or from the archive?


I'm like you - I think the OD implementation of archiving is
the best I've ever seen - and have seen nothing else to 
compare with it.

It's the only thing I have of OD left. Having found 
shareware and freeware that does everything OD does - only 
(IMO) lots better, I wiped off OD and only reinstalled the 
archiving function.



________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

To send email - remove the `yyy'
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From: pfitz@ican.net                                    17-Oct-99 09:06:08
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 10:24:05
Subj: Re: OS2*.INI constantly updated after FP12 

From: Peter Fitzsimons <pfitz@ican.net>

Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

This all stems from some moron at ibm opening the *.ini file in "no
cache" mode, then proceeding to write no more than 32k at a time to the
file (and your os2.ini can be quite large).  Each write causes a
complete HPFS flush to occur.  To top it all off, it's not really
writing os2.ini, but "os2.!!!", so a powerfailure during the write
(which is the only reason I can think of why this person decided to make
this "no cache" change) would be moot, since when you rebooted os/2
would not use "os2.!!!".

This change occured in Warp 2.1 fixpak 2 or 3 (or so).  It pissed me off
so much I did something about it.  Later I wrote an article about it for
one of the online OS/2 magazine (i forget which). Here's that text.  If
anyone wants the code, email me.  This is for advanced users only.

skip ahead to "Why newcalls.dll?"

[--- cut ----]
Jan 22, 1997

What is NEWCALLS.DLL?
=====================
This is an example of how to redirect (or "hook") a function in a dll
that you don't have the code for.  My example hooks DosOpen() for
PMMERGE.DLL.  It works under Warp 3.0 or Warp 4.0 [ed: and wseb]


How it Works
============
The exe header of PMMERGE.DLL is changed so that all refernces to
DOSCALLS.DLL go to NEWCALLS.DLL instead (IBM's compiler supplies a
utility called DLLRNAME to do this).

NEWCALLS.DLL contains a forwarder entry (to DOSCALLS.DLL) for every
function exept Dos32Open().  The forwarder entries are created, by the
linker (FWDSTAMP.EXE is NOT needed),  because the *.def file both
IMPORTS and EXPORTS all of the function names (except Dos32Open).

Since many of the ordinals are not referenced by name (and are not
documented),  I forward them with a manufactured names. Example:

   _undoc4=DOSCALLS.4

Since the real doscalls.dll does not export a name for ordinal 4, it
should not make any difference what it is called.  The important thing
is that an oridinal of 4 does exist,  in case pmmerge.dll uses it (it
will use it by ordinal number, not by name).  This may seem
untrustworthy, but you have to keep in mind we are redirecting DOSCALLS
only for one specific piece of code (pmmerge.dll);  and if we get it
wrong it will fail to load.

Additionally,  newfwd.def IMPORTS the real Dos32Open,  for its own use,
by ordinal (273), and calls it _Dos32Open().  _Dos32Open() is a private
name,  only seen by newcalls.dll.

        _DOS32OPEN =DOSCALLS.273


Newcalls.c only has to contain code for one function, Dos32Open().  All
other functions are automatticaly redirected,  at load time,  to the
real doscalls.dll;  thus there is NO runtime performance impact,  only a
slight (probably immeasurable) loadtime impact.


Why NEWCALLS.DLL?
=================
Whenever anything changes on your WPS (which can happen simply by
referencing an object),  changes are made to OS2.INI and/or OS2SYS.INI.
Every so often (2 mins or so) these changes are written to disk.  Since
OS/2 2.1,  *.ini files are kept completely in (swappable) memory,  and
are rewritten, in their entirety,  whenever updates are required (this
means the system will have to swap out memory equal to the size of your
*.ini files,  swap in the memory where the *.ini file data is,  write
them out, etc...this design sucks;  I liked the way os/2 1.1 through 2.0
did it better).

To further complicate things,  the *.ini file data is written out in
chunks of 32k or less.  My os2*.ini files are 1.2mb;  that means about
40 DosWrite's.

The code for PrfOpenProfile() is in pmmerge.dll. PrfOpenProfile() calls
DosOpen with the "OPEN_FLAGS_WRITE_THROUGH" bit on.  This causes each
DosWrite() to the *.INI files to completely update all disk structures
before it returns (this is VERY slow on HPFS).

It takes a good 15-20 seconds to write my *.ini files out (and this
happens every few mins).  Not only do I have an annoyingly loud
harddisk,  but the performance of my PC will sometimes crawl while the
update is taking place (a priority boost is giving to threads blocked on
disk i/o).

My replacement DosOpen() masks off the OPEN_FLAGS_WRITE_THROUGH bit,  so
that all operations to the *.ini files are cached.  Now my *.ini file
updates are next to instant (a second or so),  and a lot quieter;  file
system structures are only updated once,  instead of after each
DosWrite().

I'm sure someone at IBM thought they were being "safe" by using
write-through mode.  I disagree.  The *.ini files are actually written
as "os2.!!!" and "os2sys.!!!",  then renamed to os2*.ini after they are
on the disk.  A power failure will only cause a problem if it occurs
when the *.!!! files are renamed (regardless if you're using
newcalls.dll or not).  A power failure while the ini file data is being
written to disk will cause the system to use the older *.ini files
already present.  It actually makes more sense to write the data out as
fast as you can,  to get ahead of the power failure.


How to use NEWCALLS.DLL
=======================

 1) Compile/link newcalls.c using IBM's compiler (the IBM linker is key;
    it creates the forwarder entries from the *.def file).  Simply:

    icc /Gn /O /Fenewcalls.dll newcalls.c newfwd.def os2386.lib

 2) Backup your original pmmerge.dll.   Run:

       \ibmcpp\bin\dllrname pmmerge.dll doscalls=NewCalls /q

    (You can't use the pmmerge.dll that is active;  copy it somewhere
     else, modify the copy, boot to the command line,  copy new dll to
     \os2\dll).

    This command will change all references to DOSCALLS to NEWCALLS.DLL.
    This only affects pmmerge.dll.  It does not directly affect any
    programs that use pmmerge.dll.  Furthermore,  only DosOpen
    (Dos32Open actually) has replacement code -- all other entry points
    are forwarded to the real doscalls.  There is ZERO runtime
    performance impact on forwarded calls (there is a slight LOAD time
    impact,  as the loader does its stuff).



Peter Fitzsimmons,
President,
A:WARE Inc (OS/2 Contracting)

Voice:  905 858 3222

Internet: pfitzsim@home.com

Copyright (C) 1997, A:WARE Inc.

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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   17-Oct-99 11:17:13
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 14:29:26
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <7ub27g$nqr$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/16/99 
   at 11:37 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:


> [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc - sorry I missed this before]

>    ...On IRQ use reported by RMVIEW with no associated driver...

>In <3807dde0$1001$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) writes: >In
><7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99  >   at 12:50 AM,
>frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said: --snip--
>>>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>>>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>>>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>>>see what you're talking about?
>--snip--
>>I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.
>>
>>This from rmview /irq
>>
>>RMVIEW: Physical view
>--snip--
>>Notice that IRQ 15 isn't shown. It has a cheapie symbios  isa scsi card
>>on it, assigned with a /override /irq=15 option. 

>>Here is some of the output from rmview /d

>--snip--
>>IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
>--snip--

>>Above each of the lines in this excerpt are the gory details of the
>>device which claims the irq. 

>Harry,

>I believe you're seeing what you're seeing... I just wish I could  make
>some sense of it. (;-)

I miswrote: What I meant, as any reader can verify on his/her own
system, ist that in the output of rmview /d produces voluminous output,
including the "gory details" associated with each irq claimed BUT THOSE
GORY DETAILS WERE NOT QUOTED HERE

>>Maybe this selective recovery is foiled by network cards. Haven't there
>>been numerous reports of challenges to OS/2 presented by some network
>>cards? 

>The only NIC-related problem I remember was with the OS/2 hardware 
>detection software "probing" address 0x300 for (IIRC) CDROMs and 
>managing to mess up some NE2000 clones so badly the system would lock
>up hard. As far as I know all that affected was the _choice_ of driver
>to  be installed, not the specifics of how that driver worked after it
>was  loaded.


Well, here, on a stock IBM Intellistation, the Intel NIC card, with
latest driver, does not get detected. (If I needed it, I am sure R.
Steiner could tell me why not, and how to fix it.) More important is
that I am sure others have reported similar problems. in newsgroups.


>Is there anything helpful in the RMVIEW /D output surrounding its IRQ15
>entry?  I can come up with a few ideas of what might be happening (but
>nothing I'd care to be quoted on (;-)):

> 1) The ROM BIOS probe is detecting the use of IRQ15 but isn't sure how

>    it gets used.

> 2) Card has Shrug'n'Pray support and _that_ is being detected by that 
>    probe.

> 3) The SYMBIOS driver reports its IRQ use to RM (Resource Manager) but

>    not its name (???).

> 4) IBM1S506 checks both IRQ14 and IRQ15 and gets responses back for 
>    both... then realizes that only the first IDE channel is "active".

>And I'm sure others can come up with even more ideas. Bottom line is, I
> just don't know.

>Sorry... anyone else?


>Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
>Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
>E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com


-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
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From: letoured@nospam.net                               17-Oct-99 12:32:10
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: letoured@nospam.net

<99078729@brookes.ac.uk> said:

>You can pretty much forget os2.... support for that operating system is
>dropping.

And that is why IBM has been releasing Fixpaks for years now? Not to
mention server editions, etc. -- The real bottome line is that OS2 is
still more advanced the Winoze anything. 

If you want to play games -- go windows. 
If you want to get work done -- go OS2.
If you want to be first with a system that still takes work -- go Linux.


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: flywheel@image.dk                                 17-Oct-99 16:25:16
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk>

99078729 wrote:
> 
> Linux easy to install? I fonud Linux a nightmare compared to an NT
> installation. However I do agree that Linux is a more stable OS, but
> Linux and NT are two different OS's and will probably require two
> different mind-sets to get round them. I'm an NT man but I've installed
> Linux on one of my machines. Right now I'd say that NT is more user
> friendly, but I'm sure there are loads of people will say Linux is
> better. In some ways I agree but remember that out there the everyday
> users are not into writing code or hacking in general.

The Linux today is easy to install and the hardware probing works
actually better than the Windows one!

you're right about Linux and NT being two different operating
systems.

1)

* NT is partly designed after the VMS (the predecessor of UNIX)
model, with a network add-on.
* Linux is designed after the later UNIX-model, with networking
integrated into the system!

> You can pretty much forget os2.... support for that operating system is
> dropping.

Don't believe everthing you hear!

Did you know that Windows NT actually was designed as an hardware
platform independent OS/2 Server??

-- 

Live long and prosper...
_________________________________________________________________
 Peter Jespersen, Team OS/2 Denmark
 flywheel@image.dk
 http://www.image.dk/~flywheel/
 Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.

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From: baden@interchange.ubc.ca                          17-Oct-99 17:51:24
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 16:35:05
Subj: Re: Cable modems

From: baden@interchange.ubc.ca    (Baden Kudrenecky)

   Note that with Rogers, you can save $100 on the installation
by doing it yourself, which is worth it because they won't touch
an OS/2 system anyway.

   Once the modem is installed by the cable guy, all that you
have to do, is configure your computer for a Lan connection
using TC/PIP.  I usually run MPTS to set up the physical layer,
and then there is a "TCP/IP Configuration" object for which you
enter all your settings that the cable company will give you.
MPTS usually has a DHCP check box, which is the norm for a cable
installation.  The only tricky part is to configure the router
(gateway) for the address they give you, and an "1" metric.

   For a second computer, you need a hub, and then IP
masquerading, for which several different programs including
InJoy provide.  I use use "ifconfig" to close and start the
cable IP connection for the computer I am working on.

   For more information:

http://www.os2ezine.com/v2n10/cable.htm
http://members.home.net/bhubley/cableintro.html
http://www.idk-inc.com/cablemodem.htm

baden

In <xIbO3.3103$zX1.23328@quark.idirect.com>, alexsam@idirect.com (as) writes:
>I'd be interested to hear from anyone already using a
>cable modem.  What was required to get things running
>in os/2 once the cable company installs the hardware, 
>modem and internet card.  Obvisously i won't be using
>a dialer, so how and what do i need to configure for 
>a) one standalone computer and 
>b) if possible a second computer tied into the first 
>computer so either can surf the net.
>
>
>

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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          17-Oct-99 19:38:01
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Stewart Honsberger <blackdeath@13softhome.net> wrote in message
news:slrn80hreo.208.blackdeath@blackdeath.pr1.on.wave.home.com...
> On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:08:40 +0100, Richard Dakin wrote:
> >> > OS/2 - Don't know, not enough experience
> >> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
> >> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their
left
> >foot
>
> You appear to be an ignorant troll.
>
> If you're going to post childish Linux bashing, atleast have the courtesy
> to restrict it to Microsoft newsgroups where the other lemmings can
properly
> appreciate it.

No I am not a troll, I just have a different opinion to you & I like NT.
I didn't start this thread, if you don't like my responses kill file me or
remove the Linux groups from the list.


--
Richard Dakin

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From: khalsa@ibm.net                                    17-Oct-99 14:44:19
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Re: "Static Resource Conflict"???

From: Sat Nam Singh <khalsa@ibm.net>

Mother board bios flash upgrade did the trick!!  I'm back in business.
Upgraded my 486 66 to Celeron 300A for $70.  (MB $25, Celery $45)

Sat Nam Singh wrote:

> I just upgraded my 486 66 motherboard with a low buck Alton 715 slot 1
> w/celeron 300a 370 pin & adapter.  Also, I stuck in 2-16meg 72 pin EDO
> cause the two FPM parity chips I had were not the same # of megs (wasn't
> required on this 486).
>
> Although it booted fine otherwise, it now runs many times slower than
> the 486 did!!!
>
> Upon boot, the BIOS routine reports "Static Resource Conflict."   How
> can I identity this and could it be responsible for the speed problem??
>
> Specs:
>
> CMOS is set to 300 Celeron
> Boot recognizes 32 Meg EDO
> Motherboard Sound was disabled (I noted the boot PCI PNP recognition
> before and after and it had been eliminated after the jumper switch.)
>
> Alton 715 motherboard w/Slot 1, EX/LX chipset (66 FSB only) AGP slot
> (unused)
> 2-16 meg Simms (slot 0,1; mb has total capacitiy for 4 Simm, 2 Dimm)
> Onboard IDE
> Onboard sound disabled (no cable yet)
> Celeron 300A PPGA 370 pin with slot 1 adapter card
> Diamond Stealth 3D 2000, 2meg PCI
> 1.2 GB hard drive (Primary Master)
> 24X Acer CDRom (Secondary Master)



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From: baden@interchange.ubc.ca                          17-Oct-99 18:56:15
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Re: fdisk can't read partition table on larger drive (3GB)

From: baden@interchange.ubc.ca    (Baden Kudrenecky)

Hi Mike:

   I had a similar problem on one computer, as Win95 corrupted
the partition table by writing Boot Manger over the first C:
drive partition and I got around it without reformatting with
Partition Magic.  First I deleted the Boot Manage partition from
Win95, then I booted OS/2 from floppy and ran PQMagicd to
re-size the Win 95 partition so I had about 50 MB at the disc
front.  I then booted OS/2 from floppy again, and "fdisk"ed in a
new Boot Manager.

baden


In <7u5ef8$nud$2@news.junction.net>, "Michael Shillingford"
<mshill@elkvalley.net> writes:
>Am trying to install warp 3 and 4 on a new system that has a 3GB drive that
>has been partitioned by Win95B into:
>C: Primary 976 MB Fat  Win95
>D: Extended 1024 MB Fat
>E: Extended 1020 MB Fat
>
>On install, both Warps fdisk program reports that the partition table
>appears to be corrupted, showing only:
>C: primary 976 fat
>? 2044 MB unknown
>
>I can delete both the partitions using warps fdisk, but then I can't create
>any new ones - the fdisk menus options are all disabled. Have exited fdisk
>without saving since I don't want to remove the first (C) partition, just
>install warp on the extended partitions.
>Using WD Caviar 3020MB IDE drive, 6136 Cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors, LBA
>mode, PIO 4, Blockmode 16 sec, 32bit mode off.
>IDE controller is VXPro-II PC82371
>
>

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From: nate@lcs.mit.edu                                  17-Oct-99 19:58:03
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:06
Subj: Re: Cable modems

From: nate@lcs.mit.edu (Nathan Liskov)

There is some info on this subject on my home page

http://nateliskov.ne.mediaone.net

Hope it helps

	nate liskov

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 03:50:53, alexsam@idirect.com (as) wrote:

> I'd be interested to hear from anyone already using a
> cable modem.  What was required to get things running
> in os/2 once the cable company installs the hardware, 
> modem and internet card.  Obvisously i won't be using
> a dialer, so how and what do i need to configure for 
> a) one standalone computer and 
> b) if possible a second computer tied into the first 
> computer so either can surf the net.
> 
> 
> 

nate@lcs.mit.edu   http://nateliskov.ne.mediaone.net

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From: nredinger@aol.com                                 17-Oct-99 20:25:09
  To: All                                               17-Oct-99 19:56:07
Subj: Re: OS/2 and ATI Rage Fury AGP

From: nredinger@aol.com (NRedinger)

In article <7u20j2$l0r$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Clemens Quoss <quoss@my-deja.com>
writes:

>has anyone here experience with the above combination?

I personally have not, but a friend of mine who also uses OS/2 and has that
particular video board had difficulty getting the board to work in any mode
other than standard VGA.  (As I understand it, there is no OS/2 driver
available from ATI.)  Then he tried the updated GRADD drivers (available from
the IBM website) and was very happy with the results.


Nick Redinger

(NRedinger@aol.com)

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From: 99078729@brookes.ac.uk                            17-Oct-99 14:08:06
  To: Alien@heaven.com                                  18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

To: Anonymous Alien <Alien@heaven.com>
From: 99078729 <99078729@brookes.ac.uk>

Linux easy to install? I fonud Linux a nightmare compared to an NT
installation. However I do agree that Linux is a more stable OS, but
Linux and NT are two different OS's and will probably require two
different mind-sets to get round them. I'm an NT man but I've installed
Linux on one of my machines. Right now I'd say that NT is more user
friendly, but I'm sure there are loads of people will say Linux is
better. In some ways I agree but remember that out there the everyday
users are not into writing code or hacking in general.

You can pretty much forget os2.... support for that operating system is
dropping.

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From: jricci@.nospam.ibm.net                            17-Oct-99 13:14:08
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 02:24:12
Subj: Re: Cable modems

From: jricci@.nospam.ibm.net (Joe Ricci)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 03:50:53, alexsam@idirect.com (as) wrote:

  What was required to get things running
> in os/2 once the cable company installs the hardware, 
> modem and internet card.  

Install TCPIP if not installed   (4.1 best IM experience)

Go to TCPIP configuration
write in the  addresses  (router, subnet etc) that your provider 
supplies
Reboot
Should work as soon as tcpip setting are OK

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        17-Oct-99 22:56:01
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
been changed or added, however.

According to the readme, however, scroll-wheels and sticks are
still only supported for PS/2 mice.  (At least it now says so
clearly.)

Does anyone know when/if IBM plans to include this functionality
for serial mice?  Is it really so much more difficult and
complicated?

Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been 
more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),
but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
more useful kind.

Every time I've been working in Linux for a while, and then
switch back to OS/2, I suddenly miss being able to scroll with
my mouse wheel...

I have neither the capacity nor the intention of putting a
PS/2 mouse in my system, so I find the situation a little
frustrating...

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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: roenigk@ibm.net                                   17-Oct-99 18:15:10
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:22
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: John Roenigk <roenigk@ibm.net>

Jeff,

I take it you've seen other postings on this by now:

"FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot" in this newsgroup;

"FP12 & device driver update harddrive mystery" in comp.os.os2.misc.

... I believe there are even more postings on this as well.

I'm having the same problem. I posted something about a hard drive
"whirring" noise in "apps" as I thought it had something to do with bad
Netscape 4.61 and Java 1.1.8 installs. Later, after uninstalling Netscape
and Java and the problem persisting, I thought my hard drive might be
failing. Turns out (apparently) the culprit is somewhere in FP12, video,
device drivers, and/or some combination of these.

Stay tuned, and please advise of any progress...

John Roenigk



Jeff Welton wrote:

> I've had the most difficult times trying to get my system back in
> working condition.
>
> Like an idiot I decided to try the Preview version of ScITech Display
> Doctor.  That program wrought havoc to my display system.  It deleted
> my Trio S3 video drivers and I suspect did my system considerable
> damage.
> My Warp 4 system was at FP12 and working exceptionally well prior to
> the SDD episode.  Everything was running great: OD2.0, TCP4.1, SS/2
> with the latest update, Communicator 4.61, and a bunch of registered
> (and paid for) OS/2 applications.
>
> Eventually I was able to find/download and reinstall my S3 Trio drivers
> but before, during and after getting it back to normal I kept
> experiencing
> a 'slow' problem.  My system is a 200 Pentium with 64 megs of RAM and
> a 6 gig hard drive.  What was happening was: I'd click an icon to open a
> program, or go to a prompt and type a command and the system would
> sit there for a second, then I'd hear a whirring sound in the CPU unit,
> a
> couple of clicks and finally the action would take place.  It was very
> annoying.  I did not have this problem prior to the SDD installation but
> maybe SDD had nothing to do with it.  Maybe it was just 'time'.
>
> Try to view the drives on the drives object and after clicking it
> wouldn't
> instantly open as it had always does.  Instead it hesitates, then whirrs
> and a click or two and the folder would open and the drive objects would
> appear.  Once there I was fine unless I jumped from one drive object to
> another then it would go into that slow access whir/click routine.
>
> So I figured my 6gig hard drive was going out on me.  The machine is
> about 5 years old.  I archived everything on each partition using RAR
> and
> asked a reliable computer geek where I could someone to replace the hard
> drive.  I've personally added modem cards, more memory, a second hard
> drive and an external CD ROM but I didn't want to screw this up and lose
> all my archived data and updated programs and applications.
>
> He referred me to a small computer repair company and they said they
> could
> replacethe hard drive, install the other as a slave drive so I could
> access the
> archived data.  "I'm using OS/2, will that be a problem?"  "No, just
> give us the
> CD and install disks."  They promised to have the machine back in a day
> or
> at most, two days and assured me they were OS/2 literate.
>
> Three days later one of the repair guys calls to ask "Why are you
> using OS/2?"  "What does it matter?" I ask.  "Wouldn't it be better for
> you to use Win98?"  "No, it wouldn't.  Is there a problem?  What is
> taking so long?"  "No, no problem we're just wondering why you would
> use OS/2."  "Because I LIKE OS/2, okay?"  "Sure...."
>
> Another two days go by and I've heard nothing.  Installing a hard drive
> can't be that difficult!  I call.  They admit an inability to get OS/2
> installed
> on a ten gig drive.  You told me you were OS/2 literate.  You know that
> you have to change a driver on the install disk and insert a new
> statement
> in the disk config.sys, right?  "Huh???"  I said to hell with it, just
> return the
> machine and I would install OS/2.
>
> They finally return the machine.  I have a 10gig and the 6 gig as a
> slave
> and PREMIUM prices.
>
> I insert the OS/2 installation disk and I get nothing.  It says it is
> looking for
> the boot sector on the floppy but none is found.  Hummm...  Did
> something
> happen to the install disk?  Is it deleted?  I check on a neighbors
> machine.
> No, all is there.  I update it with drivers to see about 8.4gig but it
> is ignored.
> I try another disk and again, the screen says "A" drive not found.
> Aha...
> So I open the thing up and sure enough, those idiots didn't plug the
> ribbon
> cable back in the floppy drive.  No wonder they couldn't install OS/2.
> DUH!
>
> That fixed I then proceed to the OS/2 installation.  It goes well, no
> problems
> with the install but the system still has that sluggish, whirr, click
> click sound.
> I figure I'll deal with that later, just let me get everything back in
> working
> order.  I copy the archived files over from the slave drive and reformat
> it,
> repartition the new 10 GIG and unarchive everything back to new
> partitions.
> It all works fine.  But still the system is slow and sluggish.
>
> I install NS202 so I can upgrade Warp 4 to FP12, then install
> Communicator 4.61,
> Feature Installer 1.25, Java 118/Swing and get it all back in shape.
> Now I try
> installing Object Desktop 2.0.  It gets nearly to the end and complains
> it can't
> go on but the error explanation is incomplete.  No big deal, I can try
> it later.
> I try SmartSuite/2 and when I reboot the locked driver statement comes
> up
> and just sits there.  The system will go absolutely no where.  I'm
> freaking
> pissed off at this point.  It means a whole new reinstall of OS/2.  I
> boot from
> disks just to take a look around and reboot back to normal several times
> but still sit at the "locked driver" statement.  Thirty minutes later it
> is
> obvious I'm not going to get to my desktop.  I keep OS/2 installed on
> one
> 750 meg partition 'just in case' while everything else goes to other
> partitions.
>
> I start a new install of OS/2, go through all the motions of setu up
> again.
> This all takes hours.  OB2.0 still refuses to install (it is on CD so
> what's the
> problem, the CD is pristine, no scratches, it always worked before).  I
> try
> OD1.5 and it installs easy enough.
>
> Now at this point I'm still at level 1 of Warp 4.  I have to upgrade to
> FP12 so I
> begin that procedure.  New RSU setup, I get to the update site and begin
> the
> automatic upgrade process.  All is going along well, it is near 2am in
> the morning.
> I get to FP12 disk 4 and suddenly nothing.  The file doesn't appear to
> be transferring.
> I look at the dialer and sure enough nothing is downloading.  I figure
> the connection
> petered out so I reconnect.  I go back and start all over again knowing
> it should
> pick up but now the site won't come up.  I just sit and spin my little
> Communicator
> logo then finally get a notice that the site is unavailable.
>
> This morning I get up and go back but it takes a long time for the page
> to come up.  I start the process and it too takes a long time but it
> finally
> starts.   RSU menu comes up and says it will copy files to my disk.  It
> says
> select "Begin" to start the process.  I'm warned many files will
> download.
> The little menu says changing to directory ps/products/os2/rsu and I sit
> waiting and waiting.  I hear my system whirr up, a couple of clicks so I
> know
> data is transferring and then comes a warning sound and the RSU menu
> says "unknown failure - 0"  And that's it.  I try taking it out of
> verbose mode
> but still get the same error.  I then rename the old RSU files (dll too)
> and
> reinstall them again.   I figure the slow access must be an IBM server
> or
> web site problem because other sites come up quickly and other files
> transfer without a problem.  Finally I give up and hope to come back
> next
> week for the FP12 upgrade if I don't get it on manually.  In the
> meantime...
>
> I spend the next two hours downloading the FP11 files using WGET
> figuring
> I'll upgrade to FP11 so I can at least use Communicator/2.  I get them
> all, go
> to the VOICE web site, get the Fastkick141 file and try that method but
> it fails
> badly.  The Corrective Service Facility menu comes up and says it is
> inspecting the system then gives me the error:  "The path SET
> CSFCDROMDIR=G:\fp11
> does not exist or is invalid. "  What is this?  I installed FP8 and 9
> manually
> using the Fastkick method and never had this problem before.
>
> Ok.  I can live with a straight Warp 4 system and Netscape 2.02.  On
> Monday I will take the machine into the computer shop and see if
> they can't tell me what the problem is - why it goes whirr (sounds
> like it is winding itself up when a command is given) and the odd
> click, clicks.  But before I do:
>
> This is where I need a Hardware Doctor.  The problem was not a
> failing hard drive because the slave drive works just fine.  The
> access times and overall sluggishness of the system is the problem.
> Any ideas what the problem could be?  Maybe the power box?
> I ask because these computer guys are really expensive and if it
> were just a matter of replacing a component, like a power box or
> bad ram then I can do it.  (I'm a college student so money is very
> hard to come by. )
>
> Any advice?  Thanks.
>
> Jeff

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From: leshalter@earthlink.net                           18-Oct-99 00:26:20
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 03:19:23
Subj: Win-OS/2 Help

From: leshalter@earthlink.net (Les Halter)

Help!  I installed OS/2 on an HP Pavilion and everything runs fine except
Win-OS/2 and DOS.  Below is the error I get when I try to run Win-OS/2. 
Anyone have an idea how to fix this?

WIN-OS/2 Full Screen 

A program executed an illegal instruction at OOOffffO. EAX=000040ff
EBX=00000394 ECX=00000093 EDX=0000alfb ESI=00001100 EDI=000076d6 
DS=ffff DSACC=**** DSLIM=******** 
ES=ffff ESACC=**** ESLIM=******** 
FS=0000 FSACC=**** FSLIM=******** 
GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** 
CS:EIP=ffff:00000000 CSACC=**** CSLIM=******** SS:ESP=ffff:000039aa SSACC=****
SSLIM=******** 
EBP=00005dae FLG=00122282 

Thanks, 

Les Halter
leshalter@earthlink.net


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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 18-Oct-99 02:49:25
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 10:22:24
Subj: Re: RMVIEW

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
spake unto us, saying:

>Well, here, on a stock IBM Intellistation, the Intel NIC card, with
>latest driver, does not get detected. (If I needed it, I am sure R.
>Steiner could tell me why not, and how to fix it.) More important is
>that I am sure others have reported similar problems. in newsgroups.

I ran into a problem with the bundled OS/2 drivers for that NIC (an
Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B with "Wake on Lan") when I put OS/2 on my
first IntelliStation, at least if I recall correctly, but the ones I
had bundled with the store-bought EEPro/100B on my Micron box worked
just fine.  Go figure.  :-)

I don't know why it happens -- I just know that the use of a different
version of the drivers fixed my particular problem.

FWIW, the NIC in that box is recognized by the universe.  I've not yet
upgraded Solaris 2.6 to Solaris 7, but even BeOS and FreeBSD see that
card with no problems.  IBM chose a good NIC!

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           We're not LOST, we're locationally challenged!

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From: csaba.raduly@sophos.com                           18-Oct-99 10:57:19
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 10:22:24
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com>

Alex Taylor wrote:
> 
> I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
> an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
> been changed or added, however.
> 
> According to the readme, however, scroll-wheels and sticks are
> still only supported for PS/2 mice.  (At least it now says so
> clearly.)
> 
> Does anyone know when/if IBM plans to include this functionality
> for serial mice?  Is it really so much more difficult and
> complicated?
> 
> Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been
> more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),
> but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
> more useful kind.
> 

It is changing, because most ATX motherboards already have a PS/2
mouse (and keyboard) connector.
'Useful' is a questionable word (PS/2 mice free up a COM port,
and with programs like ps2rate (even though it's a Windoze prog)
you can get higher responsiveness.

Csaba
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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     18-Oct-99 12:28:23
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

In <3809e887$1$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net
(Harry Travis) writes:
>In <7ub27g$nqr$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/16/99 
>   at 11:37 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:
>> [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc - sorry I missed this before]
>
>>    ...On IRQ use reported by RMVIEW with no associated driver...
>
>>In <3807dde0$1001$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>>htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) writes: >In
>><7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99  >   at 12:50 AM,
>>frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said: --snip--
>>>>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>>>>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>>>>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>>>>see what you're talking about?
>>--snip--
>>>I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.
>>>
>>>This from rmview /irq
>>>
>>>RMVIEW: Physical view
>>--snip--
>>>Notice that IRQ 15 isn't shown. It has a cheapie symbios  isa scsi card
>>>on it, assigned with a /override /irq=15 option. 
>
>>>Here is some of the output from rmview /d
>
>>--snip--
>>>IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
>>--snip--
>
>>>Above each of the lines in this excerpt are the gory details of the
>>>device which claims the irq. 
>
>>Harry,
>
>>I believe you're seeing what you're seeing... I just wish I could  make
>>some sense of it. (;-)
>
>I miswrote: What I meant, as any reader can verify on his/her own
>system, ist that in the output of rmview /d produces voluminous output,
>including the "gory details" associated with each irq claimed BUT THOSE
>GORY DETAILS WERE NOT QUOTED HERE

Harry,

Yes, I was hoping that you _would_ post what RMVIEW /D shows on your
system for IRQ 15.  I'd like to get some idea of what kind of driver is
involved when (per your original report) RMVIEW /D reports that IRQ15 is
in use, but RMVIEW /IRQ shows no entry for IRQ15.  For example, here's
the driver associated with IRQ14 on my system (I've clipped out RMVIEW's
blank lines):

Driver: IBM1S506.ADD  -  ISA DMA Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD 
Vendor: IBM Corp.  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 4/21/1999 
Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
  Adapter: IDE_0 ST506/IDE Controller 
  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
  I/O = 0X01F0  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16 
  I/O = 0X03F6  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16 

So on my system (shock! surprise! (;-)) IRQ14 is used by the IBM1S506 
driver. What driver does RMVIEW /D think is associated with IRQ15 on 
your system?

P.S.  Your news poster is apparently sending me a copy of each of your
posts via e-mail.  This can get a bit confusing, since now I have to
wait a couple of days to see if you've posted something before replying
to (or discarding) your e-mail.



Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: tbruijn.nospam@rullet.leidenuniv.nl               18-Oct-99 13:47:24
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:16
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: tbruijn.nospam@rullet.leidenuniv.nl (TB)

In article <380AEF12.9874EABB@sophos.com>, Csaba Raduly
<csaba.raduly@sophos.com> wrote:
>Alex Taylor wrote:
>> 
>> I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
>> an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
>> been changed or added, however.
>> 
Hi

There was a problem, at least on my machine, with the mousedriver and 
Suspend-mode (ATX). The mouse driver would crash the system on wake-up. The 
older mouse-driver (without scrollsupport) didn't have this prob.

Th

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From: David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net                      18-Oct-99 00:01:13
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>

I might as well add my response to all the others... I've never installed
WinNT and have used it very little, but I've installed and used Win3.0 up
through Win98, and OS/2 2.0, 2.1, and 3.0 and installed three different
distributions of Linux.

I grudgingly gave up OS/2 because it seemed to me that it's future didn't look
too good, from a applications standpoint. But I did enjoy it and can reiterate
that it's much more stable than Win95/98. In fact there's really no
comparison. Installation was pretty easy, and very easy if you accept FAT for
the filesystem. If you want to use OS/2's filesystem HPFS, then installation
is more difficult. Linux, in my view, is pretty difficult to install, but once
it's installed, forget it. It'll never crash under any circumstances. Linux is
now my OS of choice, but I can boot to Win98 if I wish. To get completely free
of any MS software is a very refreshing experience.

Dave

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From:  JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be                  17-Oct-99 19:18:17
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: chinon cd-rom & warp

From: "Jean-Michel Dossogne" < JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be>

Hello All.

got a small problem
trying to "convert" a friend to warp - "holly" mission, not? :)
his old pc uses an old-timer scsi controller & cd-rom
the drive : cds-535 internal 1x scsi cd-rom, supporting cd-r and all the like
the controller : cds-323, 16bit isa long card, with external 37p and internal
50p connectors.
all I have are Dos drivers (chinon doesn't make cd's anymore and their site is
empty about what they made as drives..)
and on the warp connect diskette 1, I have a file called chincds1.flt, with as
text in file header :
This program cannot be run in a DOS session.
CHINCD1     chincds1.DLL      CHINCD1 CHINON

if I try to install, I don't get the cd-rom found by warp.
Any idea/workaround/suggestion?

sure that warp connect would be better, on a 486dx33/8mb/250mb than win3.11
and
all the problems he brings with him!

smile.. crossposting some places... need so baaaaadly an answer :-)

thanks for help

Jean-Michel
http://home.freegates.be/doggys-club
+++++++++++++++++
+ Doggy's Internet Gateway - +32-71-666292 - V34+ & X75
+ Disclaimer: Les articles n'engagent QUE leurs auteurs, pas la passerelle

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From:  JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be                  17-Oct-99 19:15:04
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 11:10:17
Subj: Dual OS2/Win95

From: "Jean-Michel Dossogne" < JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be>

Hello Jbrush@aros.Net.

Samedi 16 Octobre 1999 07:14, jbrush@aros.net wrote to All:

 j> Never had any problems. Just don't ever use any disk utilities from
 j> Microsoft land, such as defrag, or fdisk. Let OS/2 handle that stuff for
 j> you. The M$ stuff will kill Warp if it sees it.
any idea how to install warp in dual boot on a drive that is fat32? - with the
new fat32 ifs, of course
how will the boot manager install himself on that already used partition
(2gb)?

Jean-Michel
+++++++++++++++++
+ Doggy's Internet Gateway - +32-71-666292 - V34+ & X75
+ Disclaimer: Les articles n'engagent QUE leurs auteurs, pas la passerelle

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From: esko.kauppinen@ibm.net                            18-Oct-99 15:20:18
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:56:02 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

>I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
>an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
>been changed or added, however.

I don't know what they have changed but it sure is much
better now.

I used to have odd system hangs with my Wheel Mouse when
i used the scroll wheel in various situations.
After installing this latest driver all hangs have disappeared :-)

It used to be so bad I was afraid to touch the scroll wheel when
some windows were opening. That was when it often hang.

This is not a serial mouse but just wanted to report that for
my system this new driver is just what the doctor ordered!

Esko


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From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void                      17-Oct-99 15:37:12
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman)

On 10/17/99 at 02:08 PM, 99078729 <99078729@brookes.ac.uk> said:

>Linux easy to install? I fonud Linux a nightmare compared to an NT
>installation. However I do agree that Linux is a more stable OS, but
>Linux and NT are two different OS's and will probably require two
>different mind-sets to get round them. I'm an NT man but I've installed
>Linux on one of my machines. Right now I'd say that NT is more user
>friendly, but I'm sure there are loads of people will say Linux is
>better. In some ways I agree but remember that out there the everyday
>users are not into writing code or hacking in general.

>You can pretty much forget os2.... support for that operating system is
>dropping.

Do you think you had this cross posted to enough news groups?  Great, yet
another moron who's found his way to comp.os.os2.*, with nothing
intelligent to say.

Welcome to my kill file.

Sander Nyman

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From: sachmo@horn.net                                   18-Oct-99 14:16:29
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 14:36:03
Subj: Re: OS/2 and ATI Rage Fury AGP

From: sachmo@horn.net

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:25:19, nredinger@aol.com (NRedinger) wrote:

> I personally have not, but a friend of mine who also uses OS/2 and has that
> particular video board had difficulty getting the board to work in any mode
> other than standard VGA.  (As I understand it, there is no OS/2 driver
> available from ATI.)  Then he tried the updated GRADD drivers (available
from
> the IBM website) and was very happy with the results.

Check out Hobbes for ATI drivers for OS/2.

---------------
pequod@gate.net

The minstrel boy to the war is gone
In the ranks of death you'll find him;
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard;
Words shall never sound in slavery!
            --Thomas Moore (1779-1852)

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      18-Oct-99 17:42:21
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:02
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Alex Taylor [@Home Network Canada] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been 
¯ more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),

In the 80 it was serial mouses who ruled (sure, bus mouses and PS/2 was
available in the later half, but did not rule the market). In the 90 it has
been PS/2 who has ruled almost alone, but now USB has finally started to
replace that (and I think it will be USB mouses who rules in 2000).

¯ but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
¯ more useful kind.

Hardly.

But I agree, it would be good if IBM supported that as well (the PS/2 port is
almost the same as a serial port, just another connector and memory address).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: rjfreem@ibm.net                                   18-Oct-99 09:25:16
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:03
Subj: Unable to Print

From: rjfreem@ibm.net

Unable to print after a reinstall of the OS. 
The parallel port is enabled in the system setup
Basedev=print01.sys is in config.sys
Printer object created from printer template folder
Printer drivers installed both Omni and epomni, dialog described
successful install Default driver defined
Port defined ,lpt1
Job icon view shows 7 jobs
Spool\printer shows 7 files with SHD and SPL extensions.
No message indicateing printer not ready.
Printer self test OK
I have missed some thing but it is beyond me 
Help 
RJF


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From: whkleinw@ccmaui.com                               18-Oct-99 06:59:28
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 16:32:03
Subj: PCM2SRAM device driver not installed for PCMCIA Flash Card Reader

From: William Kleinwachter <whkleinw@ccmaui.com>

I just installed a new fash card reader under OS/2.  To support this,
the PCMCIA support had to be added.  I am getting an error message
during OS/2 loading specifying that the PCM2SRAM device driver was not
installed.  The CONFIG.SYS has the following device card:
DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\PCM2SRAM.SYS.  This SYS file is located in this
directory.  I do not believe that this is a hardware problem since
this card performs OK under my NT system activated by my Boot Manager.
Anyone have any ideas of what the problem might be? 
  

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        18-Oct-99 18:40:15
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:42:42 +0200, Martin Nisshagen
<forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se> wrote:
> ¯ Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been 
> ¯ more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),
> 
> In the 80 it was serial mouses who ruled (sure, bus mouses and PS/2 was
> available in the later half, but did not rule the market). In the 90 it has
> been PS/2 who has ruled almost alone, but now USB has finally started to
> replace that (and I think it will be USB mouses who rules in 2000).

A USB mouse probably would be a useful investment... once it's fully
supported under all platforms.  The time is soon approaching, I think,
but not quite yet...

> ¯ but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
> ¯ more useful kind.
> 
> Hardly.

Why is that?

In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not
but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.
Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)

For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_
more valuable than serial ports.  In my experience, most people use 1
serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another
available for a mouse.  Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4.

I freely admit that for many people, serial ports are in fact more valuable
than IRQs... (laptop users for example, or those using funky peripherals,
UPSs, etc.)  But I think such people are in the minority.

The fact that PS/2 mice seem to be becoming more and more common has
annoyed me for some time.  (Ever since I had a job installing NICs, and
kept finding no IRQs free because of that PS/2 mouse sitting there when
there were two perfectly good serial ports free, forcing me to pull out
their modem or sound card.)  They are certainly useful, even preferable,
in a number if situations.  But for most "normal" users, I don't think that
is so.

What am I missing?

> But I agree, it would be good if IBM supported that as well (the PS/2 port
is
> almost the same as a serial port, just another connector and memory
address).

Of course, the trick is getting that message to IBM...  I don't suppose
any of their people here is responsible for those drivers?  :)

-- 
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        18-Oct-99 18:27:03
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:57:38 +0100, Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com>
wrote:
> > Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been
> > more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),
> > but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
> > more useful kind.
> 
> It is changing, because most ATX motherboards already have a PS/2
> mouse (and keyboard) connector.
> 'Useful' is a questionable word (PS/2 mice free up a COM port,

True, but they eat up an IRQ, which to many people are more precious.

> and with programs like ps2rate (even though it's a Windoze prog)
> you can get higher responsiveness.

How much higher?  On any system with PS/2 mice I've used, I've seen
no difference in performance with serial mouse systems.

-- 
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   18-Oct-99 14:25:00
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <7uf3pv$gk0$1@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/18/99 
   at 12:28 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:

>In <3809e887$1$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net
>(Harry Travis) writes:
>>In <7ub27g$nqr$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/16/99 
>>   at 11:37 PM, frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:
>>> [Followups set to comp.os.os2.setup.misc - sorry I missed this before]
>>
>>>    ...On IRQ use reported by RMVIEW with no associated driver...
>>
>>>In <3807dde0$1001$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>>>htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) writes: >In
>>><7u5tpb$n3t$1@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, on 10/15/99  >   at 12:50 AM,
>>>frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said: --snip--
>>>>>What you're saying seems odd...  and does not match either my
>>>>>expectations or my experience.  Would you mind posting the output from
>>>>>your RMVIEW /IRQ and the IRQ lines from RMVIEW /D back here so I can
>>>>>see what you're talking about?
>>>--snip--
>>>>I am obviously wrong, but here is the basis for my surmise.
>>>>
>>>>This from rmview /irq
>>>>
>>>>RMVIEW: Physical view
>>>--snip--

>Harry,

>Yes, I was hoping that you _would_ post what RMVIEW /D shows on your
>system for IRQ 15.  I'd like to get some idea of what kind of driver is
>involved when (per your original report) RMVIEW /D reports that IRQ15
>is in use, but RMVIEW /IRQ shows no entry for IRQ15.  For example,
>here's the driver associated with IRQ14 on my system (I've clipped out
>RMVIEW's blank lines):

>Driver: IBM1S506.ADD  -  ISA DMA Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD 
>Vendor: IBM Corp.  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 4/21/1999  Flag:   STATIC    
>Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
>  Adapter: IDE_0 ST506/IDE Controller 
>  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
>  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
>  I/O = 0X01F0  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16 
>  I/O = 0X03F6  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16 

>So on my system (shock! surprise! (;-)) IRQ14 is used by the IBM1S506 
>driver. What driver does RMVIEW /D think is associated with IRQ15 on 
>your system?

RMVIEW/irq provides a pithy <20 line output file. Substitute /d for
/irq, and the report runs over 700 lines, (with blanks.) Here is the
portion of that >700 lines,  FWIW, on the isa SCSI card I've forced to
use irq 15, but which does not show up at all with rmview/irq.

Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver 
Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996 
Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  

BTW PNP also assigns IBM1S506.add to irq14 here, as well.
-- 
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DemostiX
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From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca                          18-Oct-99 19:37:09
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

TB (tbruijn.nospam@rullet.leidenuniv.nl) wrote:
: In article <380AEF12.9874EABB@sophos.com>, Csaba Raduly
<csaba.raduly@sophos.com> wrote:
: >Alex Taylor wrote:
: >> 
: >> I notice that IBM's "scrollmouse" drivers have just received
: >> an update.  I can't seem to find a summary of what actually has
: >> been changed or added, however.
: >> 
: Hi

: There was a problem, at least on my machine, with the mousedriver and 
: Suspend-mode (ATX). The mouse driver would crash the system on wake-up. The 
: older mouse-driver (without scrollsupport) didn't have this prob.

You probably missed re-fresh No.#2 which fixed this problem. The newest
one, if I'm keeping track properly, is refresh No.#3 and I'm not sure what
it fixes.

I eventually sprang for a new Logitech scroll mouse (oh no, $20CDN!!!),
PS/2 port because I needed the extra com port for my AceCad tablet.

I have not regretted the move!


Isaac

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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         18-Oct-99 21:33:27
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:23
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:38:02 +0100, Richard Dakin wrote:
>> >> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
>> >> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their
>> >> > left foot
>>
>> You appear to be an ignorant troll.
>>
>> If you're going to post childish Linux bashing, atleast have the courtesy
>> to restrict it to Microsoft newsgroups where the other lemmings can
>> properly appreciate it.
>
>No I am not a troll, 

Could have fooled me.

>I just have a different opinion to you & I like NT.

In that case, we again have differing opinions. Your choice of expressing
your opinion makes you come across as an ignorant, 10 year old lemming who
wouldn't know the inside of his computer if he were shown a photograph.

In short - your message makes you sound ignorant, and there is no greater
sin than ignorance.

>I didn't start this thread, if you don't like my responses kill file me or
>remove the Linux groups from the list.

Pardon? Why should I remove the Linux groups? You're the one badmouthing
Linux, and since you left the Linux groups listed, it appears to me as if
you're looking to start a flame war.

Follow-up directed according to where your postings belong.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     18-Oct-99 21:11:14
  To: All                                               18-Oct-99 22:36:24
Subj: Re: How do I fix bad HPFS partition?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:18:24, prayer5@my-deja.com wrote:

> For last 5 years I have fixed failures with my FAT partitions two or
> more times per year and have gotten pretty successful at it. Now after
> 5 years of good running with HPFS one of those partitions suddenly went
> bad. CHECKDSK /F finds a few failures then hits one that leaves a
> message that the disk "S" is stopped.  I get a report of "0" bytes
> for "S". A DIR command gets the message that the disk is stopped,
> please run checkdsk /f.
> 
> I can run norton v6 in a dos window and see that the bytes are still in
> the partition. Something is wrong that I need to "fix".  In a FAT disk
> usually a FAT table or some section of directory or other would be
> damaged and I could fix that. Where can I find references on HPFS
> structure so I can figure out what is wrong with this disk and fix the
> bad bytes and get it running again?
> 
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

I don't know if it will help, and it could be a real bear to figure 
out, but DFSee seems to be the program that can do that type of thing 
(it seems to do everything, but wash the dishes <g>). Look for 
DFSEE307.ZIP, in the usual places.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: roenigk@ibm.net                                   18-Oct-99 18:17:17
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Re: FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot

From: John Roenigk <roenigk@ibm.net>

Ivan,

Same problem here. I began noticing this  after having done some
installations from the WarpUp diskette. At first I thought it was Netscape
and/or Java 1.1.8. After having read a number of these posts, though, it
appeared to be the Fixpak 12. (We have M64GRADD Driver Version 1.00,
Component ID 562107701, Current CSD level: XR03010, Prior CSD level: XR02100
for ATI Mach 64/RageII). Well, I backed out of Fixpak 12 down to 6 (which
has worked brilliantly for us for some time). I also backed out the Device
Driver Fixpak. The problem still persists, however. I've found no solution
offered here in these newsgroups or in Compuserve. I'm really surprised that
the noise about this problem seems to have died back a bit as well. If
anyone has had success ridding their machine(s) of this nuisance, I do hope
they will reply to a message in this thread. Otherwise, it looks like I'm
headed for a fresh reinstall, then Fixpak 6... I don't think the hard drive
can withstand this going on much longer.

John Roenigk, Austin, Texas


Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

> Anyone else noticed this? After applying FP12 to my Warp 4 machine I am
> getting very strange sounds from my HDD. At the very end of boot
> sequence, just after the screen is cleared from drivers' boot messages
> and before the blue PM color appears - my hard disk now makes a long
> harsh ar-r-r-r sound like its heads are trying to go past the disk
> surface :-). The sound lasts for 5-6 sec, boot then proceeds normally
> and everything works fine, but I'm really scared to reboot my machine
> now, I am not sure how long my HDD will survive this kind of "surface
> testing". Needless to say, I've run checkdisk and GTU disk checker
> several times with no errors of any kind reported.
>
> The system is AMD K6-266, ASUS P55T2P4 mobo with 128M RAM, Tekram
> DC-390F UW SCSI adapter and WD 3.4G UW SCSI attached (it also has second
> EIDE WD 3.6G disk, used for storage only). Device drivers are left at
> FP10 level, e.g. I did not apply DD Fixpack. Other hardware includes
> ESS1868 sound card, two NICs (Realtek 8029 and DEC 41021 chipsets) and
> Matrox Millenium I PCI video. The only device driver that was upgraded
> simultaneously with applying FP12 is Matrox one, now at v.2.31.100.
>
> Cheers,
> Ivan
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de                      18-Oct-99 22:37:26
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:01
Subj: Does the new driver works with the Logitech Cordless Desktop Wheel mous

From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de (Carsten Frank)

HAs someone tested the new driver with the Logitech Cordless Desktop 
Wheel Mouse. The older drivers wont work with that mouse

Thanks for testing!

Ciao

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From: jnichols@tcia.net                                 18-Oct-99 19:10:13
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 03:31:02
Subj: LexMark Optra Color 40

From: jnichols@tcia.net

To All,

 Can someone tell me if the Optra 40 is far less cpu intense than the
LexMark 5700 ? How is the print quality compared to the two printers?
I'm thinking of buy one but want to be sure of the cpu usage..


Later,
Nick


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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           19-Oct-99 13:28:12
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:22
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <7uh52g$puq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/19/99 
   at 07:02 AM, jwelton@my-deja.com said:

Jeff,

I started the thread on the strange disk noises after FP12 but I beleive
your problem is not connected to this. It could be just a coincidence:
you changed something in software configuration (like applying a fixpack
or installing new video drivers) and at the same time your system's
hardware failed. I know this sounds strange, but things like that
happened to me many times. Usually, instead of reinstalling the whole
system time after time, you should check all the hardware components and
BIOS configuration settings first. Go to BIOS setup and check if the
whole 64M of RAM are recognized by BIOS, if you have optimal system
speed settings, CPU and memory cache enabled, your HDD correctly
autodetected and operates in the fastes possible mode (at least via
BIOS). Then boot your system and use Theseus/2 (or Theseus v.3.00 for
FP12 level of Warp kernel) to check that the system recognizes and
utilizes 64M of RAM correctly. Also, try '/v' option in config.sys for
ibm1s506.add driver and check how your hdd is recognized by OS/2 IDE
driver on boot time. With the newer ibm1s506.add (from FP10, IDEDASD.EXE
or DD Fixpak) you can use both '/v' and '/w' options to see a very
detailed list of information regarding how OS/2 sees your HDD and
partitions on it.

Post results here, with details on your system hardware configuration,
and I will try to give you more advices.

Cheers,
Ivan

>Something happened to the rest of my post in that last
>message so allow me to continue:

>They were successful in installing the 10Gig drive and they were able
>to install the old 6G drive as a slave drive.  (I had compressed each
>of those partitions into self executing RAR files to make it easier to
>transfer the data as four large RAR.exe files.)  They were able to
>install OS/2 on the C drive but it was the CD version with no updates.
>What they couldn't do was partition the new big hard drive (which I did
>using Partition Magic version 2.0 with no problems).

>I reformatted the C partition in HPFS wiping out their install of Warp
>4 and installed OS/2 all over again.  With just vanilla Warp 4 I still
>experienced the hestitation, whirring etc.  I decided to go with FP11,
>not 12, because I had experienced a problem earlier (in the first
>upgrade to FP12) of an ESS sound card trap error.  I hoped that
>wouldn't happen with FP11 (but it did).  I hoped the FP11 would
>magically return my system to its snappy wonderful state it once was
>before installing SDD.

>I now have my system back, have replaced the old 6GIG with another 10.2
>GIG slave drive (now my system has 20GIG of space), I was able to
>transfer all of my data back to new partitions but I spent hours and
>days bringing my system back to what it was and tracking down all the
>the updated drivers and other items.

>Yet I still have that problem of a slow-reaction and display times.  Is
>it something SDD did to my system?  Or is it FP12? But I removed them
>completely.  I reformatted and reinstalled. Surely my system should be
>normal again but it isn't.

>Calling up a window list doesn't happen right away.  If I close a
>program the program stays onscreen and slowly disappears in blocks of
>data.  If I scroll up a page the display takes many seconds to build
>the page as though it is reaching for more memory.  The machine itself
>whirrs.  Swiping, marking text, typing this message, trying to run a
>program, clicking on an icon all tend to hesitate.  Clicking on the
>scroll button to move down a page appears to do nothing at first so I
>click it again, and then again but the system beeps, the window list
>slowly pops up and finally the scroll begins to take effect.  Believe
>me, if this is the result of a FixPak I'm going to be very very mad at
>IBM because they have literally ruined my machine with such a poor
>fixpack (yes, I know we're all at our own risk but no program or
>upgrade should ever destroy or ruin a person's system.  I don't want to
>believe SDD ruined my system or ruined any hardware on my system but I
>suppose it is possible).

>I am now wondering if my 64 megs of RAM may be the problem.  Did SDD or
>FP12 ruin my RAM?  It is pretty new RAM, purchased through Indelible
>Blue last year soon after my friend gave me this computer. While my
>machine was in the shop I had to use a 486 machine with just 8 megs of
>RAM and it acted just like my current machine does trying to do things,
>like scroll a web page.  If I clicked too often it seemed to run out of
>resources and the system would beep then the window list appears.  I
>have to wait for the system to catch up and close the window list to
>get back to my screen.

>When my system boots up it says 64 megs of ram are installed so I
>assume it is using all that ram without problem but could it be that
>even though the banks of ram are there and identified as being there by
>the system, they both or maybe one bank has gone bad on me?  How can I
>check that other than by going out and buying new ram and replacing the
>old ram just to see if that is the real culprit?  Or is that the only
>way to check the problem of bad ram, i.e., simply replace it.

>I hesitate doing that because I'm just a college student and literally
>spent my school money to pay that computer repairman his $400 (and I
>realize I was very stupid because I could have easily bought a 10 gig
>drive and installed it myself and moved the old 6g back to a slave
>drive for probably $150.)  I don't have the cash to go out and buy
>another round of 64 megs of ram to swap with my current 64 megs just to
>see if that is my problem.

>Now if I can check that ram and find it is not my problem then your
>FP12 theory may have more validity but at this time I think if I had
>reinstalled OS/2 and went only to FP9 I'd still be having the problems.
>I say that because I installed OS/2 on a brand new drive with just
>vanilla Warp 4 and still had the same symptoms I list above.  Even
>after the upgrade to FP11 I still have the same symptoms/problems.

>If anyone knows how I may be able to test my RAM through some program
>or by some other means please let me know so I can get my system back
>to what it once was.

>Jeff

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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                19-Oct-99 11:30:07
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Exactly the same problem with Gigabyte GA-5AA

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>


sartory wrote:

> I have a newly-assempled computer using an AMD Athlon
> processor & an SD11 motherboard from FIC. One DIMM of 128 MB
> is installed & is recognized by other OSes. In the default
> installation, Warp4 recognizes 64MB. There is an option in
> the BIOS Setup for "Boot RAM>64 M for OS/2", however when
> this option is turned on, Warp4 recognizes only about 16 MB
> RAM. There is little documentation.

Neat ! Do you have a 16MB AGP video card also ?
I'll be trying Graham's tips from comp.os.os2.misc (long live
cross-posting !).
I'll be reporting there, rather than here.

However, I fear it is some new fancy in BIOS design. If that it the
case, we should ask AMI/Award to add another OS/2 switch in the BIOS, or
to modernize the current one (which was introduced for OS/2 2.0, I seem
to remember).
I wonder though what Aurora (aka WSeB) runs on ? Surely it uses > 64MB.

OS/2 forever !

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From: sachmo@horn.net                                   19-Oct-99 11:35:03
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 10:32:23
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: sachmo@horn.net

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:52:43, j.welton@mailcity.com wrote:
Jeff

It's not the RAM, etc. but lies, it's believed, somewhere in FP12 so 
I've been told. Yet that doesn't make sense for my system took a major
chomp from a gremlin right out of the blue last week. Total system 
failure and only FP8 was loaded.

I was d/l and reading PDF files with Ghost when the sys started 
getting laggy. Blamed it on PDF and tossed it off. A minute later I 
got tossed with a system failure. 

Tried to re-boot - no go. Tried to re-boot to Maint partition - no go.
Rebooting to floppies worked but the CD was cooked. The entire sub-dir
of C:\MDOS was gone as were some other progs/apps.

Did a command-line to UniMaint to clean up the INI and REM out certain
sections of the CONFIG. Tried to re-boot - again no go.

Moved off my data files, reduced all the partitions, formatted for a 
fresh install after replacing the cooked CD. It's taken but it isn't 
"right" - the "feel" is all wrong. Am also experiencing sporadic hangs
and ghosts that take a re-boot to clear regardless of what I'm doing 
at the time.

What's going on? What gremlin's at work here? Haven't the foggiest. 
Neither does anybody else I've asked. :<

In 8 years, I've never had OS/2 go belly up on me until now. 
Apps/progs I use are fairly standard since with just this one box and 
being SOHO I'm not given to experimentation. 

Wish I could offer help instead of another horror story.

If anybody reading this has any bright - even not so bright - ideas, 
don't be bashful. I'd like to hear either here or in direct e-mail.

Gene
---------------
pequod@gate.net

The minstrel boy to the war is gone
In the ranks of death you'll find him;
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard;
Words shall never sound in slavery!
            --Thomas Moore (1779-1852)

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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          19-Oct-99 10:38:15
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Stewart Honsberger <blackdeath@13softhome.net> wrote in message
news:slrn80n4n9.1a9.blackdeath@blackdeath.pr1.on.wave.home.com...
> On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:38:02 +0100, Richard Dakin wrote:
> >> >> > WINNT - Very solid on my machines
> >> >> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their
> >> >> > left foot
> >>
> >> You appear to be an ignorant troll.
> >>
> >> If you're going to post childish Linux bashing, atleast have the
courtesy
> >> to restrict it to Microsoft newsgroups where the other lemmings can
> >> properly appreciate it.
> >
> >No I am not a troll,
>
> Could have fooled me.
>
> >I just have a different opinion to you & I like NT.
>
> In that case, we again have differing opinions. Your choice of expressing
> your opinion makes you come across as an ignorant, 10 year old lemming who
> wouldn't know the inside of his computer if he were shown a photograph.
>
> In short - your message makes you sound ignorant, and there is no greater
> sin than ignorance.
>
> >I didn't start this thread, if you don't like my responses kill file me
or
> >remove the Linux groups from the list.
>
> Pardon? Why should I remove the Linux groups? You're the one badmouthing
> Linux, and since you left the Linux groups listed, it appears to me as if
> you're looking to start a flame war.
>
> Follow-up directed according to where your postings belong.

You need to get out more.
If people badmouth NT it really doesn't bother me.  Quit treating Linux as a
treasured posession, it's just an OS for Gods sake & if others don't like it
does it really matter that much to you?
Oh yes I do use SuSe 6.1 occasionally on one of my machines, but that
doesn't mean I can't hold a negative opinion of it.


--
Richard Dakin

+++ No email please +++



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From: nospam@null                                       19-Oct-99 13:32:26
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane)

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:44:38, Peter Jespersen <flywheel@image.dk> wrote:

> But IMO, unless you're a completely imbecile you're actually able
> to install most operating systems today!
>  
Well I guess that's me - I've just failed to install WIN98 for a friend (on
her 
brand new machine!) and I can't install Win95 on this machine!!

Case for the defence is 1 successful win95 install on another machine, linux
(2 
flavours 2 machines twice each) OS/2 (vr 2, 2.1, 3 red and blue and Connect,
4),
DOS 3,4,5,6.22 and windows 3,3.1, 3.11 for workgroups.

Apart from the failures noted above os/2 ver 2.1 and DOS 6.22 stick in mind as 

being particular barstards to install requiring all sorts of "tricks" to get 
them working.

Richard A Crane
 
General Protection Fault ... Retry or Replace General and continue?
AKA third world government fault

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From: muses9@cyberus.ca                                 19-Oct-99 12:20:29
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: OS/2 and ATI Rage Fury AGP

From: muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko)

Missed the first post. Who's having trouble? I have this hardware 
running well using the ATI driver. You have to juggle a couple of 
DLLs. Search Deja.com for posts containing ATI and BVHSVGA.DLL. 

--
Marko
Ottawa

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From: nredinger@aol.com                                 19-Oct-99 13:26:24
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: Unable to Print

From: nredinger@aol.com (NRedinger)

In article <380b4a0b$1$ewserrz$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, rjfreem@ibm.net
writes:

>Unable to print after a reinstall of the OS. 
>The parallel port is enabled in the system setup
>Basedev=print01.sys is in config.sys
>Printer object created from printer template folder
>Printer drivers installed both Omni and epomni, dialog described
>successful install Default driver defined
>Port defined ,lpt1
>Job icon view shows 7 jobs
>Spool\printer shows 7 files with SHD and SPL extensions.
>No message indicateing printer not ready.
>Printer self test OK
>I have missed some thing but it is beyond me 
>Help 
>RJF

Not to insult your intelligence, but did you check the "Change status" item in
the printer object's popup menu?  It may be set for "Hold" rather than
"Release".  I seem to remember this happening if you create the printer object
from a template folder.  I always assumed it was intended to be this way in
order to give you a chance to configure the printer's "Settings / Properties"
before the OS started sending data to the printer.  Just a thought. . . .

Nick Redinger

(NRedinger@aol.com)

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From: wrightc@dtcweb.com                                19-Oct-99 10:07:17
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Wacom Intuos Digitizer Tablet -- does it work with OS/2?

From: "Christopher B. Wright" <wrightc@dtcweb.com>

Are there any drivers for OS/2 that support the Wacom Intuos digitizer
tablet? I don't need the high-end button mapping stuff, just basic
functionality...


Christopher B. Wright (wrightc@dtcweb.com)
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
       - Edward Young


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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     19-Oct-99 14:23:01
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

    [ The continuing mystery of a driver which RMVIEW /D reports as ]
    [  using IRQ15... but IRQ15 is not included in RMVIEW /IRQ!     ]

In <380b65fe$1$ugenivf$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, htravis@ibm.net (Harry
Travis) writes:
--snip--
>RMVIEW/irq provides a pithy <20 line output file. Substitute /d for
>/irq, and the report runs over 700 lines, (with blanks.)

Yup. Wordy little sucker, isn't it? (;-).

>  Here is the
>portion of that >700 lines,  FWIW, on the isa SCSI card I've forced to
>use irq 15, but which does not show up at all with rmview/irq.
>
>Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver 
>Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996 
>Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
>IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  

Ouch.  For RMVIEW to report this kind of information, the SYM416.ADD
driver _must_ have Resource Manager-aware code in it.  So the core of
the mystery is that it apparently _is_ possible for a device driver to
report its information to Resource Manager in such a way that RMVIEW
/IRQ doesn't report it.

It appears that there is a bug in Resource Manager, Resource Manager's
link to RMVIEW, or in RMVIEW itself.  What form it would take is totally
beyond me, since it's hard to conceive that the use of an IRQ would be
stored into - or reported from - more than one "bucket" per IRQ.

Hm... wonder if Symbios has contributed their source code (including the
RM-related calls) to IBM's online DDK?

>BTW PNP also assigns IBM1S506.add to irq14 here, as well.

Yup - IRQ14 as "IBM PC Hard Drive IRQ" goes 'way back to the first IBM
(8088) PC BIOS (c. 1983?).

So... the mystery is unresolved, but at least it's out in the open and 
clear to anyone who might care to care to dig further (Sam D.? Scott 
G.?)

Harry - thanks again for posting all this stuff. What good's an 
Operating System without an occasional mystery? (;-)


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        19-Oct-99 15:19:25
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 01:53:43 GMT, hamei@pacbell.net <hamei@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
> >mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not
> >but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.
> >Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)
> >
> >For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_
> >more valuable than serial ports.  In my experience, most people use 1
> >serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another
> >available for a mouse.  Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4.
> >
> >I freely admit that for many people, serial ports are in fact more valuable
> >than IRQs... (laptop users for example, or those using funky peripherals,
> >UPSs, etc.)  But I think such people are in the minority.
> >...
> >What am I missing?
> 
> uhh, the fact that serial ports also require IRQ's ? 

Yeah, but they're IRQs that aren't really available for anything else
anyway.  I mean, the COM ports are already using them, so they're basically
off-limits to begin with.

But a PS/2 mouse uses up an additional IRQ.  Whereas if there's a serial
port free, that IRQ is just wasted.  So if you want to look at it that way,
you'd actually be losing the use of _two_ IRQs instead of one.

I don't know how possible it is to configure a PS/2 mouse to use the IRQs
reserved for serial ports, but it you're going to go to that hassle, it
would be simpler just to use a serial mouse anyway...

> And if you have an internal modem on com3 with the mouse on com1 they are
> sharing an irq and will doubtless collide unhappily ? Practically
> speaking, there are only two serial ports, 

So put the internal on COM 4?

> if you have a dialup modem and a plotter & tape punch & digitizer & pen
> tablet . . 

That's fine if you have them.  My point is, most people don't (one half of
my point).  So for them there's no benefit and possibly significant
disadvantage.

> at least the PS/2 uses an irq that's out of the way, not one of the few
> alternates for a com port. What other common accessories want to use IRQ
> 12 ? 

SCSI cards, TV tuners, AGP video cards, USB buses, network cards, possibly
DVD decoders, ...  just about any expansion card beyond a sound card and
internal modem could be wanting to use it.

There are only so many "common" free IRQs in a machine, and 12 is one of
them.  More computer add-ons require IRQs than serial ports, is the rest of
my point.

> see, there's alway two sides to that story :-)

Well, yeah, I was sort of fishing for one...

-- 
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com                    19-Oct-99 07:58:20
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 12:51:29
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com>

Can I ask why every time you post to the newsgroup you use a different
name?

Graham.

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From: Stevie@Stevienet.co.uk                            19-Oct-99 18:51:12
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Stupid LAN Question

From: "Stevie" <Stevie@Stevienet.co.uk>

For years I have had a copy of OS/2 Warp v3 with Bonux Pack sat on my shelf
doing nothing, now I have decided to try it out (mainly out of curiosity)
however I have ht upon a wonderful problem, just how do I connect it to my
LAN ?

The machine is a P150 Compaq Prosignia 500. I have downloaded all the
softpacs from Compaq but I cannot get the machine to install the net card
drivers. It keeps complaining about not having a 'profile control file'. Any
help will be appreciated I know the machine is sound as it previously ran
SCO Open Server with no problems.

Stevie


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From: roenigk@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 13:10:21
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: John Roenigk <roenigk@ibm.net>

Jeff,

Well, fixpak 12, schmixpak 12. I did a complete reinstall of the operating
sytem and brought it back to fixpak 6 level. And still had the problem of
the hard-drive apparently "powering down" every five seconds or so, leaving
it to have to power back up slowly whenever I wanted to get something done
(that "whirring" sound). It was suggested by someone in one of these
threads to "disable" advanced power management in the computer's BIOS
setup. Well, on going into the BIOS setup and seeing that it was in fact
already disabled, I did nothing. I upgraded the computer BIOS this morning
with a download from Dell. Problem still persisted. I then went back into
the BIOS and, on a lark, took another look at the advanced power
management. It offered something like four choices: Disabled, Normal,
Minimal or Frequent, or some such. Well, I changed the setting from
"Disabled" to "Minimal" and, whadda ya know, I'm back to normal. Hear that?
Back to normal smooth operations here, sir. I'm pleased (looking, of
course, beyond the lost hours havoc this sort of thing wreaks). Question
remains, what the heck could have altered what to make that sort of thing
happen? I do hope it is figured out soon.

And I would hope that my solution might make a difference for you as well.
Please let me know. I was very close to running this machine over to the
DFO and, like you did, having the data extracted and hard-drive replaced,
when this bit of (dumb?) luck finally struck around here.

Good luck to you!

John Roenigk

j.welton@mailcity.com wrote:

> In article <380A5888.87085A99@ibm.net>,
>   John Roenigk <roenigk@ibm.net> wrote:
> > Jeff,
> >
> > I take it you've seen other postings on this by now:
> >
> > "FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot" in this newsgroup;
> >
> > "FP12 & device driver update harddrive mystery" in comp.os.os2.misc.
> >
> > ... I believe there are even more postings on this as well.
> >
> > I'm having the same problem. I posted something about a hard drive
> > "whirring" noise in "apps" as I thought it had something to do with
>
> > bad Netscape 4.61 and Java 1.1.8 installs. Later, after uninstalling
>
> > Netscape and Java and the problem persisting, I thought my hard drive
> might be
> > failing. Turns out (apparently) the culprit is somewhere in FP12,
>
> > video, device drivers, and/or some combination of these.
> >
> > Stay tuned, and please advise of any progress...
> >
> > John Roenigk
>
> John, a good two weeks have gone by and I'm still experiencing the
> problems I described in my first posting.  I'm not sure your
> explanation above (re: FP12) is the culprit but I'm not counting it out
> either.
>
> I had upgraded from FP9 to FP11 and then to FP12.  I had no problems
> with FP12 at all and was quite pleased with it.  FP12 had been on my
> system for several days, maybe even a week when I came across the
> press release for the preview version of the SciTech Display Doctor.
>
> SDD ruined my ability to view my display screen so I removed using
> the uninstall program that came with it not realizing the SDd program
> had deleted my updated Trio S3 drivers.  I expected to be returned to
> VGA mode and simply re-install my S3 drivers, except they were gone.
> When I tried to use selective install and reinstall my older S3 drivers
> the program would not allow me to reinstall the drivers from the
> Warp 4 CD.  I ended up reinstalling Warp 4 and building my
> applications,
> drivers and system back to a shell of what it was.  As I started
> that climb back and still in VGA mode I attributed the wheezing,
> clicking, whirring noises and the slow system response to the fact
> that my OS/2 system was not updated.  Example, if I try to use my
> backspace right now and back out this line I push the key down.
> The system just sits, I can hear the CPU portion begin to 'whirrrrr'
> and a second or two later the text actually starts to disappear as
> the backspace command begins to work.  If I continue to use the
> backspace it works fine and responds as normal but if I decide to
> mark the text instead of backspace I go through the whole hesitate
> and whirr routine all over again.
>
> Once my system was updated back to FP12 again and I had Communicator/2
> in place I found no improvement in system performance.  More
> importantly
> working on my computer was very  frustrating.  Prior to the SDD install
> I
> could hit control/escape and my window listing would snap to screen.
> If
> I highlighted text onscreen it highlighted as I swiped the mouse over
> it
> but even now I can swipe the text and the mouse moves but the text
> doesn't highlight until the system whirrs and hesitates.  Delete
> highlighted
> text and it just sits there making me hit the delete key again and
> again.
> It is like this with every action I take.
>
> Having never had a hard disk go out on me I figured that the
> system was slow to respond because it was finding it hard to
> access the hard disk.  The hard disk was paritioned in four sections
> leaving OS/2 on one partition, apps on another, a work area on another
> and odds and ends on the last partition.  So I called a small computer
> repair company and told them I believed my hard drive was going out
> on me.  For $400 they would install a new 10.2 GIG drive and guarantee
> to save and transfer all my data on my other partitions to new
> partitions
> on the new drive.  They would also install OS/2 if I gave them the
> disks
> and CD.
>
> They were successful in installing the 10Gig drive and they were able
> to install the old 6G drive as a slave drive.  (I had compressed each
> of those partitions into self executing RAR files to make it easier
> to transfer the data as four large RAR.exe files.)  They were able to
> install OS/2 on the C drive but it was the CD version with no updates.
> What they couldn't do was partition the new big hard drive (which
> I did using Partition Magic version 2.0 with no problems).
>
> I reformatted the C partition in HPFS wiping out their install of Warp
> 4
> and installed OS/2 all over again.  With just vanilla Warp 4 I still
> experienced the hestitation, whirring etc.  I decided to go with FP11,
> not 12, because I had experienced a problem earlier (in the first
> upgrade
> to FP12) of an ESS sound card trap error.  I hoped that wouldn't happen
> with FP11 (but it did).  I hoped the FP11 would magically return my
> system to its snappy wonderful state it once was before installing SDD.
>
> I now have my system back, have replaced the old 6GIG with another 10.2
> GIG slave drive (now my system has 20GIG of space), I was able to
> transfer all of my data back to new partitions but I spent hours and
> days
> bringing my system back to what it was and tracking down all the the
> updated drivers and other items.
>
> Yet I still have that problem of a slow-reaction and display
> times.  Is it something SDD did to my system?  Or is it FP12?
> But I removed them completely.  I reformatted and reinstalled.
> Surely my system should be normal again but it isn't.
>
> Calling up a window list doesn't happen right away.  If I close
> a program the program stays onscreen and slowly disappears in blocks of
> data.  If I scroll up a page the display takes many seconds to build
> the page as though it is reaching for more memory.  The machine itself
> whirrs.  Swiping, marking text, typing this message, trying to run a
> program, clicking on an icon all tend to hesitate.  Clicking on the
> scroll button to move down a page appears to do nothing at first so I
> click it again, and then again but the system beeps, the window list
> slowly pops up and finally the scroll begins to take effect.  Believe
> me, if this is the result of a FixPak I'm going to be very very mad at
> IBM because they have literally ruined my machine with such a poor
> fixpack (yes, I know we're all at our own risk but no program or
> upgrade should ever destroy or ruin a person's system.  I don't want to
> believe SDD ruined my system or ruined any hardware on my system but I
> suppose it is possible).
>
> I am now wondering if my 64 megs of RAM may be the problem.  Did
> SDD or FP12 ruin my RAM?  It is pretty new RAM, purchased through
> Indelible Blue last year soon after my friend gave me this computer.
> While my machine was in the shop I had to use a 486 machine with
> just 8 megs of RAM and it acted just like my current machine does
> trying to do things, like scroll a web page.  If I clicked too often it
> seemed to run out of resources and the system would beep then
> the window list appears.  I have to wait for the system to catch up
> and close the window list to get back to my screen.
>
> When my system boots up it says 64 megs of ram are installed so I
> assume it is using all that ram without problem but could it be that
> even though the banks of ram are there and identified as being there by
> the system, they both or maybe one bank has gone bad on me?  How can I
> check that other than by going out and buying new ram and replacing the
> old ram just to see if that is the real culprit?  Or is that the only
> way to check the problem of bad ram, i.e., simply replace it.
>
> I hesitate doing that because I'm just a college student and literally
> spent my school money to pay that computer repairman his $400 (and I
> realize I was very stupid because I could have easily bought a 10 gig
> drive and installed it myself and moved the old 6g back to a slave
> drive for probably $150.)  I don't have the cash to go out and buy
> another round of 64 megs of ram to swap with my current 64 megs
> just to see if that is my problem.
>
> Now if I can check that ram and find it is not my problem then your
> FP12 theory may have more validity but at this time I think if I had
> reinstalled OS/2 and went only to FP9 I'd still be having the problems.
> I say that because I installed OS/2 on a brand new drive with just
> vanilla Warp 4 and still had the same symptoms I list above.  Even
> after the upgrade to FP11 I still have the same symptoms/problems.
>
> If anyone knows how I may be able to test my RAM through some program
> or by some other means please let me know so I can rule out bad RAM as
> my problem and look elsewhere to get my system back to what it once
> was.
>
> Jeff
>
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From: MTyson@meritbrass.com                             19-Oct-99 18:17:24
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:05
Subj: How to apply fixpacks (nebie to os2)

From: MTyson@meritbrass.com (Michael Tyson)

Have OS2 warp 3 and need to apply fixpack xr_w040.

What is the coorect procedure? is there there any how two documents on 
this? Currently know nothing about os2.

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      19-Oct-99 21:32:04
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 16:46:06
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Alex Taylor [@Home Network Canada] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

¯ A USB mouse probably would be a useful investment... once it's fully
¯ supported under all platforms.  The time is soon approaching, I think,
¯ but not quite yet...

Agree.
 
¯ > ¯ but for the majority of users, serial mice are certainly the
¯ > ¯ more useful kind.
¯ > 
¯ > Hardly.
¯ 
¯ Why is that?

Simple. Because most systems already has dedicated a PS/2 mouse port. 

Why should you remove your current mouse from that, buy a new wheel mouse and
plug it in and occupy a free serial port, leaving the PS/2 mouse port empty?

It's a good strategy to keep you serial port free for other things.

Many mouses (especially the Microsoft ones) comes with an adapter so you can
plug it in either serial or PS/2, but most other serial devices (modems,
printers, palm devices, cameras, pen tablets) can _only_ use the serial port.

Here are some additional points (but perhaps not as strong reasons for most):

2.

The PS/2 port is also easier to locate for most novice users as it's logical
close to the keyboard port on the back of the system (the worst mistake they
will be able to make is to switch the mouse and keyboards ports).

3.

The PS/2 port can run the mouse at a higher sampling rate than on the normal
serial port (makes the mouse movements *much* nicer IMO - just like using the
mouse on old Logitech bus ports, Amiga or Mac). 

This is great especially if you use the mouse on a system with a high
resolution monitor and graphics card.
 
4.

Some mouses doesn't come with a serial port adapter, and can only be used on a
PS/2 port.

5. 

Some keyboards (like the ones who comes with Intergraph systems) has a PS/2
port nicely located on the keyboard left and right end for easy access.

¯ In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
¯ mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not

The "only" is still a big unnecessary waste of a fine working PS/2 port.

¯ but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.

It's not any difference between a serial and PS/2 port in this regard. They
are basically the exact same, including that both needs an dedicated IRQ.

¯ Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)

Ok. :)
 
¯ Of course, the trick is getting that message to IBM...  I don't suppose
¯ any of their people here is responsible for those drivers?  :)

I agree. The hard part is probably to get their attention to it. It's should
be very easy to fix for them. If they don't make any use of the higher sample
rate that the PS/2 port can provide, which I don't think they do currently on
OS/2, all they have to do is just to sample another IRQ and memory address. 

Why not, at least trying to, also send them a mail about looking into it? 

Doesn't cost much.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

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:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662           2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
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From: David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net                      19-Oct-99 18:59:18
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:10
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>

>
>
> <Sarcasm>
> Yes, selecting from a menu to format the OS/2 partition as FAT or HPFS
> can be a real chore.
> </Sarcasm>
>

As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most PCs
come
with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper than
re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a bitch.

Dave

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From: rjfreem@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 15:09:18
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:16
Subj: Re: Unable to Print

From: rjfreem@ibm.net

In <19991019092649.02381.00000295@ngol02.aol.com>, on 10/19/99 
   at 01:26 PM, nredinger@aol.com (NRedinger) said:

>In article <380b4a0b$1$ewserrz$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
>rjfreem@ibm.net writes:

>>Unable to print after a reinstall of the OS. 
>>The parallel port is enabled in the system setup
>>Basedev=print01.sys is in config.sys
>>Printer object created from printer template folder
>>Printer drivers installed both Omni and epomni, dialog described
>>successful install Default driver defined
>>Port defined ,lpt1
>>Job icon view shows 7 jobs
>>Spool\printer shows 7 files with SHD and SPL extensions.
>>No message indicateing printer not ready.
>>Printer self test OK
>>I have missed some thing but it is beyond me 
>>Help 
>>RJF

Thanks, but it is something else, just as mundane. I have looked at every
page and each check box. I just can't see it.

RJF

>Not to insult your intelligence, but did you check the "Change status"
>item in the printer object's popup menu?  It may be set for "Hold" rather
>than "Release".  I seem to remember this happening if you create the
>printer object from a template folder.  I always assumed it was intended
>to be this way in order to give you a chance to configure the printer's
>"Settings / Properties" before the OS started sending data to the
>printer.  Just a thought. . . .

>Nick Redinger

>(NRedinger@aol.com)

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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             19-Oct-99 23:34:15
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 21:35:16
Subj: Re: associations - default image viewer questions

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

Did you change both .jpg and jpg in ASSOCEDIT?   

If you are running Warp 4 with at least FP1, you can try 
x:\OS2\SETDEFV.CMD

Running it without any parameters yields the following:

Usage:
   setdefv "<view name>" <file name>

Where:
   <view name> is the name of the view as it appears in the
               context menu for the object. For convenience,
               spaces or control characters such as carriage
               returns, line feeds, or tabs may be omitted.
               For example "Icon<cr><lf>Editor" may be
               specified as "Icon Editor"
   <file name> is the name of a file belonging to the class
               for which you are setting the default view.
               It is not necessary that this file exist.

Example:
   To set the default viewer for bitmap files to the OS/2
   icon editor you would execute:
   setdefv "Icon Editor" temp.bmp

To set PMView as your default for jpg  try 

SETDEFV "PMView" temp.jpg

Mark

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:22:52, gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick) 
wrote:

-)I want to change the default image viewer from the standard Warp one
-)to PMView.
-)I tried doing this with assocedit, but can't get it to work. If I look
-)in assocedit
-)it shows pmview should start on *.jpg's, but I get it to happen.
-)
-)Can anyone point me to a info source on making associations work?
-)
-)TIA.
-)
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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          19-Oct-99 08:00:18
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:35:29
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 00:01:26 -0500, David Reiff wrote:

:>I grudgingly gave up OS/2 because it seemed to me that it's future didn't
look
:>too good, from a applications standpoint. But I did enjoy it and can
reiterate
:>that it's much more stable than Win95/98. In fact there's really no
:>comparison. Installation was pretty easy, and very easy if you accept FAT
for
:>the filesystem. If you want to use OS/2's filesystem HPFS, then installation
:>is more difficult. Linux, in my view, is pretty difficult to install, but
once

<Sarcasm>
Yes, selecting from a menu to format the OS/2 partition as FAT or HPFS
can be a real chore.
</Sarcasm>

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 19-Oct-99 01:53:21
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:35:29
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <yQJO3.7256$P6.436999@news2.rdc1.on.home.com>, alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca
(Alex Taylor) writes:
snip
>In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
>mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not
>but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.
>Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)
>
>For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_
>more valuable than serial ports.  In my experience, most people use 1
>serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another
>available for a mouse.  Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4.
>
>I freely admit that for many people, serial ports are in fact more valuable
>than IRQs... (laptop users for example, or those using funky peripherals,
>UPSs, etc.)  But I think such people are in the minority.
>
>The fact that PS/2 mice seem to be becoming more and more common has
>annoyed me for some time.  (Ever since I had a job installing NICs, and
>kept finding no IRQs free because of that PS/2 mouse sitting there when
>there were two perfectly good serial ports free, forcing me to pull out
>their modem or sound card.)  They are certainly useful, even preferable,
>in a number if situations.  But for most "normal" users, I don't think that
>is so.
>
>What am I missing?

uhh, the fact that serial ports also require IRQ's ? And if you have an
internal 
modem on com3 with the mouse on com1 they are sharing an irq and will 
doubtless collide unhappily ? Practically speaking, there are only two serial
ports, 
if you have a dialup modem and a plotter & tape punch & digitizer & pen tablet 
. . 
at least the PS/2 uses an irq that's out of the way, not one of the few
alternates 
for a com port. What other common accessories want to use IRQ 12 ? 

see, there's alway two sides to that story :-)

>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
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> alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 02:08:22
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:00
Subj: Re: LexMark Optra Color 40

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <ZRNO3.7577$5W2.239626@news6.giganews.com> - jnichols@tcia.netMon,
18 Oct 1999 19:10:27 -0400 writes:
:>
:>To All,
:>
:> Can someone tell me if the Optra 40 is far less cpu intense than the
:>LexMark 5700 ? How is the print quality compared to the two printers?
:>I'm thinking of buy one but want to be sure of the cpu usage..
:>
:>
:>Later,
:>Nick
:>
:>
:>-- 
:>-----------------------------------------------------------
:>jnichols@tcia.net
:>-----------------------------------------------------------
:>
:>    

Hello Nick

I sure hope so as I have just purchased one to replace a Lexmark 3200. Its
being delivered on Friday so if no one else responds I will let you know how
it goes for me. There is a write up about the Optra 40 on the SCOUG web page
but the reviewer doesn't directly compare it to a 5700. He did gave the
printer a very favourable review.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net


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From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com                              19-Oct-99 03:22:26
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:02
Subj: associations - default image viewer questions

From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick)

I want to change the default image viewer from the standard Warp one
to PMView.
I tried doing this with assocedit, but can't get it to work. If I look
in assocedit
it shows pmview should start on *.jpg's, but I get it to happen.

Can anyone point me to a info source on making associations work?

TIA.

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      19-Oct-99 04:19:20
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <6usO3.6097$P6.341170@news2.rdc1.on.home.com>,
  alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) wrote:

> According to the readme, however, scroll-wheels and sticks are
> still only supported for PS/2 mice.  (At least it now says so
> clearly.)

I have yet to see a Wheel mouse in a serial version... Have you?

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  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

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From: giprice@ibm.net                                   19-Oct-99 06:01:28
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: giprice@ibm.net

PMFJI, but I have the same SCSI card so I thought I'd try it.
Didn't show up anywhere.  But then I remembered the scanner
was off.  Doh!  Turn on, reboot, the driver got installed, and:

rmview /irq
RMVIEW: Physical view
  IRQ Level =  0  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    TIMER_CH_0
  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    KBD_0 Keyboard Controller
  IRQ Level =  2  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    PIC_1
  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_1 Serial
Controller
  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_0 Serial
Controller
  IRQ Level =  5  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  Sound Blaster 16 Device
Dri
ver
  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  FLOPPY_0 Floppy
Controller
  IRQ Level =  8  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    RTC
  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    AUX_0 PS/2 Auxiliary
Device
 Controller
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_0 ST506/IDE
Controller
  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_1 ST506/IDE
Controller

and furthermore:

rmview /d
===snipped===

Driver: DANIS506.ADD  -  DMA Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD
Vendor: Dani  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 6/5/1999
Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD

  Adapter: IDE_0 ST506/IDE Controller
  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
  I/O = 0X01F0  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
  I/O = 0X03F6  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
  I/O = 0XF000  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16

  Device: HD_0 QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3840A               FIXED  DISK

  Adapter: IDE_1 ST506/IDE Controller
  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
  I/O = 0X0170  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
  I/O = 0X0376  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
  I/O = 0XF008  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16

Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver
Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996
Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD
IRQ Level = 10  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
I/O = 0X0800  Len =  32  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16

===snipped===
I specified the I/O of 800 and IRQ of 10 in CONFIG.SYS.
Dunno why IRQ 10 does not show up with RMVIEW /IRQ.
Hope that adds to the confusion.  :)

Cheers,
Greg

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From:  JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be                  19-Oct-99 00:03:24
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:04
Subj: chinon cd-rom & warp

From: "Jean-Michel Dossogne" < JeanMichel.Dossogne@advalvas.be>

Hello All.

Dimanche 17 Octobre 1999 19:09, Jean-Michel Dossogne wrote to All:

 JMD> the controller : cds-323, 16bit isa long card, with external 37p and
looking everywhere, I also looked in my dusty os/2 2.1 box, took out of the
dsk file what was in it and found this :
===========
A93G5861.DSK                         1474560     Col 0     21% 23:57
                                                       10 October 1993
------------
| OVERVIEW |
------------

This README describes an OS/2 device driver (CHINCDS1.FLT) for the
Chinon 435 and 535 CD-ROM drives.

The Chinon CD-ROM drive MUST be attached to a SCSI adapter which
is supported under OS/2 with an OS/2 SCSI Adapter Device Driver (.ADD).
Currently, there is no support for the Chinon SCSI adapter which is
typically bundled with the Chinon drive.  Chinon is developing an OS/2
adapter device driver for their SCSI card, but it is not available at
this time.
===========

so, by that time was the chinon controller not yet supported
anyone knows if later he becomed so, before they stopped making pc-stuff?


 JMD> if I try to install, I don't get the cd-rom found by warp.
 JMD> Any idea/workaround/suggestion?
that one is more than ever actual :)

Jean-Michel
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From: j.welton@mailcity.com                             19-Oct-99 06:52:21
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:05
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: j.welton@mailcity.com

In article <380A5888.87085A99@ibm.net>,
  John Roenigk <roenigk@ibm.net> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> I take it you've seen other postings on this by now:
>
> "FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot" in this newsgroup;
>
> "FP12 & device driver update harddrive mystery" in comp.os.os2.misc.
>
> ... I believe there are even more postings on this as well.
>
> I'm having the same problem. I posted something about a hard drive
> "whirring" noise in "apps" as I thought it had something to do with

> bad Netscape 4.61 and Java 1.1.8 installs. Later, after uninstalling

> Netscape and Java and the problem persisting, I thought my hard drive
might be
> failing. Turns out (apparently) the culprit is somewhere in FP12,

> video, device drivers, and/or some combination of these.
>
> Stay tuned, and please advise of any progress...
>
> John Roenigk

John, a good two weeks have gone by and I'm still experiencing the
problems I described in my first posting.  I'm not sure your
explanation above (re: FP12) is the culprit but I'm not counting it out
either.

I had upgraded from FP9 to FP11 and then to FP12.  I had no problems
with FP12 at all and was quite pleased with it.  FP12 had been on my
system for several days, maybe even a week when I came across the
press release for the preview version of the SciTech Display Doctor.

SDD ruined my ability to view my display screen so I removed using
the uninstall program that came with it not realizing the SDd program
had deleted my updated Trio S3 drivers.  I expected to be returned to
VGA mode and simply re-install my S3 drivers, except they were gone.
When I tried to use selective install and reinstall my older S3 drivers
the program would not allow me to reinstall the drivers from the
Warp 4 CD.  I ended up reinstalling Warp 4 and building my
applications,
drivers and system back to a shell of what it was.  As I started
that climb back and still in VGA mode I attributed the wheezing,
clicking, whirring noises and the slow system response to the fact
that my OS/2 system was not updated.  Example, if I try to use my
backspace right now and back out this line I push the key down.
The system just sits, I can hear the CPU portion begin to 'whirrrrr'
and a second or two later the text actually starts to disappear as
the backspace command begins to work.  If I continue to use the
backspace it works fine and responds as normal but if I decide to
mark the text instead of backspace I go through the whole hesitate
and whirr routine all over again.

Once my system was updated back to FP12 again and I had Communicator/2
in place I found no improvement in system performance.  More
importantly
working on my computer was very  frustrating.  Prior to the SDD install
I
could hit control/escape and my window listing would snap to screen.
If
I highlighted text onscreen it highlighted as I swiped the mouse over
it
but even now I can swipe the text and the mouse moves but the text
doesn't highlight until the system whirrs and hesitates.  Delete
highlighted
text and it just sits there making me hit the delete key again and
again.
It is like this with every action I take.

Having never had a hard disk go out on me I figured that the
system was slow to respond because it was finding it hard to
access the hard disk.  The hard disk was paritioned in four sections
leaving OS/2 on one partition, apps on another, a work area on another
and odds and ends on the last partition.  So I called a small computer
repair company and told them I believed my hard drive was going out
on me.  For $400 they would install a new 10.2 GIG drive and guarantee
to save and transfer all my data on my other partitions to new
partitions
on the new drive.  They would also install OS/2 if I gave them the
disks
and CD.

They were successful in installing the 10Gig drive and they were able
to install the old 6G drive as a slave drive.  (I had compressed each
of those partitions into self executing RAR files to make it easier
to transfer the data as four large RAR.exe files.)  They were able to
install OS/2 on the C drive but it was the CD version with no updates.
What they couldn't do was partition the new big hard drive (which
I did using Partition Magic version 2.0 with no problems).

I reformatted the C partition in HPFS wiping out their install of Warp
4
and installed OS/2 all over again.  With just vanilla Warp 4 I still
experienced the hestitation, whirring etc.  I decided to go with FP11,
not 12, because I had experienced a problem earlier (in the first
upgrade
to FP12) of an ESS sound card trap error.  I hoped that wouldn't happen
with FP11 (but it did).  I hoped the FP11 would magically return my
system to its snappy wonderful state it once was before installing SDD.

I now have my system back, have replaced the old 6GIG with another 10.2
GIG slave drive (now my system has 20GIG of space), I was able to
transfer all of my data back to new partitions but I spent hours and
days
bringing my system back to what it was and tracking down all the the
updated drivers and other items.

Yet I still have that problem of a slow-reaction and display
times.  Is it something SDD did to my system?  Or is it FP12?
But I removed them completely.  I reformatted and reinstalled.
Surely my system should be normal again but it isn't.

Calling up a window list doesn't happen right away.  If I close
a program the program stays onscreen and slowly disappears in blocks of
data.  If I scroll up a page the display takes many seconds to build
the page as though it is reaching for more memory.  The machine itself
whirrs.  Swiping, marking text, typing this message, trying to run a
program, clicking on an icon all tend to hesitate.  Clicking on the
scroll button to move down a page appears to do nothing at first so I
click it again, and then again but the system beeps, the window list
slowly pops up and finally the scroll begins to take effect.  Believe
me, if this is the result of a FixPak I'm going to be very very mad at
IBM because they have literally ruined my machine with such a poor
fixpack (yes, I know we're all at our own risk but no program or
upgrade should ever destroy or ruin a person's system.  I don't want to
believe SDD ruined my system or ruined any hardware on my system but I
suppose it is possible).

I am now wondering if my 64 megs of RAM may be the problem.  Did
SDD or FP12 ruin my RAM?  It is pretty new RAM, purchased through
Indelible Blue last year soon after my friend gave me this computer.
While my machine was in the shop I had to use a 486 machine with
just 8 megs of RAM and it acted just like my current machine does
trying to do things, like scroll a web page.  If I clicked too often it
seemed to run out of resources and the system would beep then
the window list appears.  I have to wait for the system to catch up
and close the window list to get back to my screen.

When my system boots up it says 64 megs of ram are installed so I
assume it is using all that ram without problem but could it be that
even though the banks of ram are there and identified as being there by
the system, they both or maybe one bank has gone bad on me?  How can I
check that other than by going out and buying new ram and replacing the
old ram just to see if that is the real culprit?  Or is that the only
way to check the problem of bad ram, i.e., simply replace it.

I hesitate doing that because I'm just a college student and literally
spent my school money to pay that computer repairman his $400 (and I
realize I was very stupid because I could have easily bought a 10 gig
drive and installed it myself and moved the old 6g back to a slave
drive for probably $150.)  I don't have the cash to go out and buy
another round of 64 megs of ram to swap with my current 64 megs
just to see if that is my problem.

Now if I can check that ram and find it is not my problem then your
FP12 theory may have more validity but at this time I think if I had
reinstalled OS/2 and went only to FP9 I'd still be having the problems.
I say that because I installed OS/2 on a brand new drive with just
vanilla Warp 4 and still had the same symptoms I list above.  Even
after the upgrade to FP11 I still have the same symptoms/problems.

If anyone knows how I may be able to test my RAM through some program
or by some other means please let me know so I can rule out bad RAM as
my problem and look elsewhere to get my system back to what it once
was.

Jeff


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From: jwelton@my-deja.com                               19-Oct-99 07:02:22
  To: All                                               19-Oct-99 23:36:05
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: jwelton@my-deja.com

Something happened to the rest of my post in that last
message so allow me to continue:

They were successful in installing the 10Gig drive and they were able
to install the old 6G drive as a slave drive.  (I had compressed each
of those partitions into self executing RAR files to make it easier
to transfer the data as four large RAR.exe files.)  They were able to
install OS/2 on the C drive but it was the CD version with no updates.
What they couldn't do was partition the new big hard drive (which
I did using Partition Magic version 2.0 with no problems).

I reformatted the C partition in HPFS wiping out their install of Warp
4 and installed OS/2 all over again.  With just vanilla Warp 4 I still
experienced the hestitation, whirring etc.  I decided to go with FP11,
not 12, because I had experienced a problem earlier (in the first
upgrade to FP12) of an ESS sound card trap error.  I hoped that
wouldn't happen with FP11 (but it did).  I hoped the FP11 would
magically return my system to its snappy wonderful state it once was
before installing SDD.

I now have my system back, have replaced the old 6GIG with another 10.2
GIG slave drive (now my system has 20GIG of space), I was able to
transfer all of my data back to new partitions but I spent hours and
days bringing my system back to what it was and tracking down all the
the updated drivers and other items.

Yet I still have that problem of a slow-reaction and display
times.  Is it something SDD did to my system?  Or is it FP12?
But I removed them completely.  I reformatted and reinstalled.
Surely my system should be normal again but it isn't.

Calling up a window list doesn't happen right away.  If I close
a program the program stays onscreen and slowly disappears in blocks of
data.  If I scroll up a page the display takes many seconds to build
the page as though it is reaching for more memory.  The machine itself
whirrs.  Swiping, marking text, typing this message, trying to run a
program, clicking on an icon all tend to hesitate.  Clicking on the
scroll button to move down a page appears to do nothing at first so I
click it again, and then again but the system beeps, the window list
slowly pops up and finally the scroll begins to take effect.  Believe
me, if this is the result of a FixPak I'm going to be very very mad at
IBM because they have literally ruined my machine with such a poor
fixpack (yes, I know we're all at our own risk but no program or
upgrade should ever destroy or ruin a person's system.  I don't want to
believe SDD ruined my system or ruined any hardware on my system but I
suppose it is possible).

I am now wondering if my 64 megs of RAM may be the problem.  Did
SDD or FP12 ruin my RAM?  It is pretty new RAM, purchased through
Indelible Blue last year soon after my friend gave me this computer.
While my machine was in the shop I had to use a 486 machine with
just 8 megs of RAM and it acted just like my current machine does
trying to do things, like scroll a web page.  If I clicked too often it
seemed to run out of resources and the system would beep then
the window list appears.  I have to wait for the system to catch up
and close the window list to get back to my screen.

When my system boots up it says 64 megs of ram are installed so I
assume it is using all that ram without problem but could it be that
even though the banks of ram are there and identified as being there by
the system, they both or maybe one bank has gone bad on me?  How can I
check that other than by going out and buying new ram and replacing the
old ram just to see if that is the real culprit?  Or is that the only
way to check the problem of bad ram, i.e., simply replace it.

I hesitate doing that because I'm just a college student and literally
spent my school money to pay that computer repairman his $400 (and I
realize I was very stupid because I could have easily bought a 10 gig
drive and installed it myself and moved the old 6g back to a slave
drive for probably $150.)  I don't have the cash to go out and buy
another round of 64 megs of ram to swap with my current 64 megs
just to see if that is my problem.

Now if I can check that ram and find it is not my problem then your
FP12 theory may have more validity but at this time I think if I had
reinstalled OS/2 and went only to FP9 I'd still be having the problems.
I say that because I installed OS/2 on a brand new drive with just
vanilla Warp 4 and still had the same symptoms I list above.  Even
after the upgrade to FP11 I still have the same symptoms/problems.

If anyone knows how I may be able to test my RAM through some program
or by some other means please let me know so I can get my system back
to what it once was.

Jeff


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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             19-Oct-99 23:26:10
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

Is this a Warp 4 system?  If so what does "RMVIEW /IRQ /DC" show?  
Sometimes PNP crap shows up in the Current Boot Detected view, but not
the Physical view.  No idea why.

Mark


On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:25:01, htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis) wrote:

-)
-)RMVIEW/irq provides a pithy <20 line output file. Substitute /d for
-)/irq, and the report runs over 700 lines, (with blanks.) Here is the
-)portion of that >700 lines,  FWIW, on the isa SCSI card I've forced to
-)use irq 15, but which does not show up at all with rmview/irq.
-)
-)Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver 
-)Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996 
-)Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD 
-)IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  
-)
-)BTW PNP also assigns IBM1S506.add to irq14 here, as well.
-)-- 
-)-----------------------------------------------------------
-)htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
-)DemostiX
-)-----------------------------------------------------------
-)


//---------------------------------------------------------
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//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
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From: derwin@airmail.net                                19-Oct-99 19:59:14
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

David Reiff wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > <Sarcasm>
> > Yes, selecting from a menu to format the OS/2 partition as FAT or HPFS
> > can be a real chore.
> > </Sarcasm>
> >
> 
> As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most
PCs come
> with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper than
> re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
> Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a
bitch.
> 
> Dave

I don't think OS/2 will install on a FAT32 partition.  FAT, yes, but not
FAT32.
-- 
Dale Erwin
Dallas, Texas
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/dale_erwin/index.html">

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          20-Oct-99 10:50:09
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

I've always installed onto a clean hard disk so I've never
run into the trouble of FAT32, etc. I only install other OSs
once Warp is up and running. They are never permanent
though as I'm constantly trying out new stuff. Right now it's
BeOS. I obviously misunderstood your post.

Cheers

Wayne


On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:59:36 -0500, David Reiff wrote:

:>>
:>>
:>> <Sarcasm>
:>> Yes, selecting from a menu to format the OS/2 partition as FAT or HPFS
:>> can be a real chore.
:>> </Sarcasm>
:>>
:>
:>As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most
PCs come
:>with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper than
:>re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
:>Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a
bitch.
:>
:>Dave
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         20-Oct-99 02:07:27
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:59:36 -0500, David Reiff wrote:
>As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most PCs 

>come
>with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper than
>re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
>Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a bitch.

What followed?

"HPFS"
"Format partition? Y/n"
"Y"
"Format complete, now installing OS/2"

???

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: szrob@ns.net                                      20-Oct-99 00:27:09
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:07
Subj: Engery Saver Monitors and BIOS

From: szrob@ns.net (John Roberts)

Greetings all:

  I have been trying to get my monitor to go to sleep mode via  
Blanker 6.  The question is, do I need to go into the BIOS and turn on
APM?  Or does Blanker 6 handle *all* of the instructions to the 
monitor?  If so I must be doing something wrong.  I can't get the 
screen to go from full on to 25 watt mode.  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

John Roberts
 

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From: jwelton@my-deja.com                               20-Oct-99 03:31:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: jwelton@my-deja.com

In article <380C8720.D7F8201D@linkline.com>,
  "Graham C. Norris" <spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com> wrote:
> Can I ask why every time you post to the newsgroup you
> use a different name?
>
> Graham.

Are you referring to the email address?

I have always had the email address of j.welton@mailcity.com
but mailcity doesn't offer newsgroup access.  So I come to Deja
News to search out other messages for the answer to my problem
or for information.  If I don't find it I read the newsgroup
postings.  When I post or reply to a message, Deja News offers
the option of selecting one of several return email addresses
(if you have them) but to do that one has to jump through a hoop
or two to get to a preferred email address.  If you fail or forget,
something I do on occasion, Deja News resorts to a default
deja.com address.  Looking back at this originating message I see
I forgot to select my mailcity.com address.  I apologize for that.
I haven't set up a deja.com email address so any message sent there
would bounce.

I feel any reply or answer should be posted publicly so it can be
shared with everyone.  As I say above, that's why I use Deja News
so I can search through other people's messages for the answers that
may already be here.

Sorry if it is an inconvenience.

Jeff


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From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj                20-Oct-99 00:44:17
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: associations - default image viewer questions

From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj

Hello Doug.

19 Oct 99 03:22, Doug Fitzpatrick wrote to All:


 DF> I want to change the default image viewer from the standard Warp
 one
 DF> to PMView.
 DF> I tried doing this with assocedit, but can't get it to work. If
 I look
 DF> in assocedit
 DF> it shows pmview should start on *.jpg's, but I get it to happen.

 DF> Can anyone point me to a info source on making associations
 work?

The instructions are in the archive for PMview, the file tells about
 changing the default viewer to PMview and mentions several problems
 associated with what you want.

I don't remember the details but I did read about it in the read me
 that came with pmview.




Derek


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From: tstreet@excel.net                                 19-Oct-99 21:32:03
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: tom <tstreet@excel.net>


Stewart Honsberger wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:59:36 -0500, David Reiff wrote:
> >As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most
PCs
> >come
> >with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper
than
> >re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
> >Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a
bitch.
>
> What followed?
>
> "HPFS"
> "Format partition? Y/n"
> "Y"
> "Format complete, now installing OS/2"
>
> ???

For some people thinking is a bitch, they don't do it very well...

--

--
Tom Street
920-693-2824

   S E M C O
         Street Electric Manufacturing Company
      Mfg. of the QuadJoy mouse for quadriplegics
      and people with high mobility impairments.

         see it at  http://www.quadjoy.com


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From: David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net                      19-Oct-99 22:02:02
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>

Stewart Honsberger wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:59:36 -0500, David Reiff wrote:
> >As I recall, OS/2 could be installed onto a FAT partition, and since most
PCs
> >come
> >with one FAT (or now days FAT32) partition, that option was much simper
than
> >re-partitioning, reformating, and then installing OS/2 onto new partition.
> >Selecting HPFS from a menu may have been easy, but what followed was a
bitch.
>
> What followed?
>
> "HPFS"
> "Format partition? Y/n"
> "Y"
> "Format complete, now installing OS/2"
>
> ???
>
> --
> Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
> blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

You skipped the part about making that partition in the first place, unless
you
meant to delete all existing files on the hard drive. Anyway, keeping Windows,
which came pre-installed for nearly all of us, and saving our own files while
making an HPFS partition was the bitch. Now there are utilities such as
Partiton
Magic, but I don't think that was around when I installed OS/2 2.0 and 2.1.
Can't
remember if it was around when I installedOS/2 Warp, however. In my case I
added
a second hard drive and formatted the whole thing HPFS.

But my original post, that it was easier to install OS/2 to a FAT partition
than
to an HPFS partition, considering that nearly all computers onto which OS/2
(or
Linux or whatever) is installed come with one partition formatted FAT, still
stands.

Dave

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From: giprice@ibm.net                                   20-Oct-99 05:47:21
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: RMVIEW 

From: giprice@ibm.net

Adding further to this at the end....

In <pPTO3.15538$D33.43748@ozemail.com.au>, giprice@ibm.net writes:
>PMFJI, but I have the same SCSI card so I thought I'd try it.
>Didn't show up anywhere.  But then I remembered the scanner
>was off.  Doh!  Turn on, reboot, the driver got installed, and:
>
>rmview /irq
>RMVIEW: Physical view
>  IRQ Level =  0  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    TIMER_CH_0
>  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    KBD_0 Keyboard
Controller
>  IRQ Level =  2  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    PIC_1
>  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_1 Serial
Controller
>  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  SERIAL_0 Serial
Controller
>  IRQ Level =  5  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  Sound Blaster 16 Device
Dri
>ver
>  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  FLOPPY_0 Floppy
Controller
>  IRQ Level =  8  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    RTC
>  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    AUX_0 PS/2 Auxiliary
Device
> Controller
>  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_0 ST506/IDE
Controller
>  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IDE_1 ST506/IDE
Controller
>
>and furthermore:
>
>rmview /d
>===snipped===
>
>Driver: DANIS506.ADD  -  DMA Adapter Driver for ST506/IDE DASD
>Vendor: Dani  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 6/5/1999
>Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD
>
>  Adapter: IDE_0 ST506/IDE Controller
>  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
>  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
>  I/O = 0X01F0  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0X03F6  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0XF000  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>
>  Device: HD_0 QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3840A               FIXED  DISK
>
>  Adapter: IDE_1 ST506/IDE Controller
>  Device Type: MS-IDE         Bus/Width: PCI 16 BIT
>  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
>  I/O = 0X0170  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0X0376  Len =   1  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>  I/O = 0XF008  Len =   8  Flg = MULTIPLEXED Addr Lines = 16
>
>Driver: SYM416.ADD  -  Symbios Logic SYM53416 OS/2 Driver
>Vendor: Symbios Logic  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 3/1/1996
>Flag:   STATIC     Type-Subtype: ADDDM - ADD
>IRQ Level = 10  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED
>I/O = 0X0800  Len =  32  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
>
>===snipped===
>I specified the I/O of 800 and IRQ of 10 in CONFIG.SYS.
>Dunno why IRQ 10 does not show up with RMVIEW /IRQ.
>Hope that adds to the confusion.  :)
>
>Cheers,
>Greg
>
Trying Mark's idea:
rmview /irq /dc
RMVIEW: Current Boot Detected view
  IRQ Level =  1  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    IBM Keyboard Controller
  IRQ Level =  3  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  Serial Device
  IRQ Level =  4  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  Serial Device
  IRQ Level =  5  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    SYM 53C416
  IRQ Level =  6  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  IBM Floppy Controller
  IRQ Level =  7  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE    Audio
  IRQ Level = 11  PCI Pin = A     Flg = SHARED       PCI Device 03-00-00
  IRQ Level = 12  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = SHARED       AUX_0 PS/2 Auxiliary
Device
 Controller
  IRQ Level = 14  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  ST506 HardDisk
  IRQ Level = 15  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = MULTIPLEXED  ST506 HardDisk

seems sensible but IRQ 10 still does not show up.  But then a clue:

rmview /da
===snipped===

Driver: ISAPNP.SNP  -  PnP snooper device driver
Vendor: IBM OS/2 WARP  Version: 1.1  Date (MDY): 1/9/1996
Flag:              Type-Subtype: SERVICE

  Detected Hardware Function: SYM 53C416

  PnP Device ID: SLI4163
  PnP Compatible Device ID: none

  I/O = 0X0220  Len =  32  Flg = EXCLUSIVE   Addr Lines = 16
  IRQ Level =  5  PCI Pin = NONE  Flg = EXCLUSIVE

===snipped===

So there we have it.  The PnP card was detected on IRQ 5 but
this is overridden by the driver to IRQ 10.  (I wanted IRQ 5 and
I/O 220 for the sound card, thus freeing IRQ 7 for LPT1 Peer to
Peer.  Printer is on LPT2 but I don't use /IRQ on the printer
driver - though I still suspect there is some deep-seated IRQ
conflict there somewhere re IRQ 5.  Win95 won't have the sound card
there.  And another thing...  every time I reboot after Win95
I get "Updating ESCD.... Success" but I don't get this after
rebooting OS/2.  I wonder what that means....)

Cheers,
Greg

P.S.  ESCD stands for Extended System Configuration Data, I believe.
P.P.S.  In summary, to find a free IRQ I think it is prudent to go through
a voluminous RMVIEW display.  The alluring summary of RMVIEW /IRQ
doesn't cut it, although this may not necessarily be a bug in RMVIEW -
it could be WAD.

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 20-Oct-99 00:18:06
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 03:24:08
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

sachmo@horn.net wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:52:43, j.welton@mailcity.com wrote:
>Jeff
>
>It's not the RAM, etc. but lies, it's believed, somewhere in FP12 so 
>I've been told. Yet that doesn't make sense for my system took a major
>chomp from a gremlin right out of the blue last week. Total system 
>failure and only FP8 was loaded.
>
>I was d/l and reading PDF files with Ghost when the sys started 
>getting laggy. Blamed it on PDF and tossed it off. A minute later I 
>got tossed with a system failure. 
>
>Tried to re-boot - no go. Tried to re-boot to Maint partition - no go.
>Rebooting to floppies worked but the CD was cooked. The entire sub-dir
>of C:\MDOS was gone as were some other progs/apps.
>
>Did a command-line to UniMaint to clean up the INI and REM out certain
>sections of the CONFIG. Tried to re-boot - again no go.
>
>Moved off my data files, reduced all the partitions, formatted for a 
>fresh install after replacing the cooked CD. It's taken but it isn't 
>"right" - the "feel" is all wrong. Am also experiencing sporadic hangs
>and ghosts that take a re-boot to clear regardless of what I'm doing 
>at the time.
>
>What's going on? What gremlin's at work here? Haven't the foggiest. 
>Neither does anybody else I've asked. :<


There really is probably a reason.  I was going through
similar miseries, and it turned out that a utility I've come
to rely on -- and still do -- was probably responsible.  (It
was updini, and the problem wasn't internal to it at all.) 
Maybe you downloaded something a few weeks ago, went on your
happy way, believing the cheery assurances you got from that
rogue ftp site, and never stopped to think about it. 
Until...




>
>In 8 years, I've never had OS/2 go belly up on me until now. 
>Apps/progs I use are fairly standard since with just this one box and 
>being SOHO I'm not given to experimentation. 
>
>Wish I could offer help instead of another horror story.
>
>If anybody reading this has any bright - even not so bright - ideas, 
>don't be bashful. I'd like to hear either here or in direct e-mail.
>
>Gene
>---------------
>pequod@gate.net
>
>The minstrel boy to the war is gone
>In the ranks of death you'll find him;
>One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard;
>Words shall never sound in slavery!
>            --Thomas Moore (1779-1852)
>

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 19-Oct-99 23:40:03
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>But my original post, that it was easier to install OS/2 to a FAT
>partition than to an HPFS partition, considering that nearly all
>computers onto which OS/2 (or Linux or whatever) is installed come
>with one partition formatted FAT, still stands.

You must mean installing it in a Dual-boot configuration?

If you install it over the OS which previously resided in the C: drive,
the complexity of the OS/2 installation is roughly the same regardless
of the filesystem you choose to use.

Also, the complexity of installation is roughly equivalent regardless
of the filesystem choses if you choose to install the OS into a new
partition, or if you choose to install it in a partition which already
existed.  Filesystem type is a nonfactor in those instances.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           What? Monday again! Didn't we have that last week?

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 19-Oct-99 23:31:19
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>If people badmouth NT it really doesn't bother me.  Quit treating Linux
>as a treasured posession, it's just an OS for Gods sake & if others don't
>like it does it really matter that much to you?

Actually, Linux does represent something which is quite different than
most operating systems (although it's not alone in that, since the free
BSD flavors and the GNU Hurd are also similar in some respects):

Linux is a non-proprietary operating system, meaning that it can't be
withdrawn or arbitrarily modified (in the way that so many proprietary
OSes have been withdrawn or modified in the past) by its owner in such
a way as to force its users to migrate or leave unwillingly.

I think that's a very important concept to remember, and also something
well deserving of the kind of attention some of us choose to give it.

I believe that Linux and other open-source operating systems have the
potential to fundamentally change the manner in which common desktop
and server operating systems are distributed, updated, and marketed.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
          The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes.

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From: jwelton@my-deja.com                               20-Oct-99 06:13:08
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:03
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: jwelton@my-deja.com

John,

thanks for posting this information.  I printed it out and rebooted to
my CMOS menu looking (and praying) for the same fix but I'm not that
lucky.  I tried resetting just about every option I had and still no
luck.  Your description below is exactly my current condition, I just
didn't know how to explain it.  You are right when you say the system
'powers down' and each and every time I try to do something I have to
wait for it to power up (whirr).  At my APM menu I have either Enable
or Disable, no third or fourth options.

I am very angry and frustrated with IBM if this is truly a forced and
unauthorized change to my bios settings.  They really have no right
destroying systems this way without warning folks or immediately
correcting the situation and making an announcement.  It doesn't seem
to matter if you buy new drives, reformat them and reinstall OS/2
completely - the problem still exists.  Why?  It appears it is because
IBM's FixPak has changed my system's BIOs in some way so that no matter
what OS I install, I'm still going to have the problem.

I do not know where to turn now.  I had my motherboard replaced just
last year because the one that came with the Indelible Blue machine
went belly up on me soon after I received the machine.  The motherboard
went out just a month after the warranty expired.  Will I have to
replace it a second time just to get my system back to a decent working
machine?

I'll do some research through Deja News.  I'm sure one of the FixPak
developers (if not two or three of them) were posting to these
newsgroups regarding FP11.  I will try to contact them to find out what
FP12 does to cause these kinds of problems and what can be done to
correct them.  I thank you for the 'workaround' and hope others are
able to save their systems using it.

Jeff

In article <380CA612.13E5E927@ibm.net>,
  John Roenigk <roenigk@ibm.net> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> Well, fixpak 12, schmixpak 12. I did a complete reinstall of the
operating
> sytem and brought it back to fixpak 6 level. And still had the
problem of
> the hard-drive apparently "powering down" every five seconds or so,
leaving
> it to have to power back up slowly whenever I wanted to get something
done
> (that "whirring" sound). It was suggested by someone in one of these
> threads to "disable" advanced power management in the computer's BIOS
> setup. Well, on going into the BIOS setup and seeing that it was in
fact
> already disabled, I did nothing. I upgraded the computer BIOS this
morning
> with a download from Dell. Problem still persisted. I then went back
into
> the BIOS and, on a lark, took another look at the advanced power
> management. It offered something like four choices: Disabled, Normal,
> Minimal or Frequent, or some such. Well, I changed the setting from
> "Disabled" to "Minimal" and, whadda ya know, I'm back to normal. Hear
that?
> Back to normal smooth operations here, sir. I'm pleased (looking, of
> course, beyond the lost hours havoc this sort of thing wreaks).
Question
> remains, what the heck could have altered what to make that sort of
thing
> happen? I do hope it is figured out soon.
>
> And I would hope that my solution might make a difference for you as
well.
> Please let me know. I was very close to running this machine over to
the
> DFO and, like you did, having the data extracted and hard-drive
replaced,
> when this bit of (dumb?) luck finally struck around here.
>
> Good luck to you!
>
> John Roenigk
>
> j.welton@mailcity.com wrote:
>
> > In article <380A5888.87085A99@ibm.net>,
> >   John Roenigk <roenigk@ibm.net> wrote:
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > I take it you've seen other postings on this by now:
> > >
> > > "FP12 makes my HDD roar on boot" in this newsgroup;
> > >
> > > "FP12 & device driver update harddrive mystery" in
comp.os.os2.misc.
> > >
> > > ... I believe there are even more postings on this as well.
> > >
> > > I'm having the same problem. I posted something about a hard
drive
> > > "whirring" noise in "apps" as I thought it had something to do
with
> >
> > > bad Netscape 4.61 and Java 1.1.8 installs. Later, after
uninstalling
> >
> > > Netscape and Java and the problem persisting, I thought my hard
drive
> > might be
> > > failing. Turns out (apparently) the culprit is somewhere in FP12,
> >
> > > video, device drivers, and/or some combination of these.
> > >
> > > Stay tuned, and please advise of any progress...
> > >
> > > John Roenigk
> >
> > John, a good two weeks have gone by and I'm still experiencing the
> > problems I described in my first posting.  I'm not sure your
> > explanation above (re: FP12) is the culprit but I'm not counting it
out
> > either.
> >
> > I had upgraded from FP9 to FP11 and then to FP12.  I had no
problems
> > with FP12 at all and was quite pleased with it.  FP12 had been on
my
> > system for several days, maybe even a week when I came across the
> > press release for the preview version of the SciTech Display
Doctor.
> >
> > SDD ruined my ability to view my display screen so I removed using
> > the uninstall program that came with it not realizing the SDd
program
> > had deleted my updated Trio S3 drivers.  I expected to be returned
to
> > VGA mode and simply re-install my S3 drivers, except they were
gone.
> > When I tried to use selective install and reinstall my older S3
drivers
> > the program would not allow me to reinstall the drivers from the
> > Warp 4 CD.  I ended up reinstalling Warp 4 and building my
> > applications,
> > drivers and system back to a shell of what it was.  As I started
> > that climb back and still in VGA mode I attributed the wheezing,
> > clicking, whirring noises and the slow system response to the fact
> > that my OS/2 system was not updated.  Example, if I try to use my
> > backspace right now and back out this line I push the key down.
> > The system just sits, I can hear the CPU portion begin to
'whirrrrr'
> > and a second or two later the text actually starts to disappear as
> > the backspace command begins to work.  If I continue to use the
> > backspace it works fine and responds as normal but if I decide to
> > mark the text instead of backspace I go through the whole hesitate
> > and whirr routine all over again.
> >
> > Once my system was updated back to FP12 again and I had
Communicator/2
> > in place I found no improvement in system performance.  More
> > importantly
> > working on my computer was very  frustrating.  Prior to the SDD
install
> > I
> > could hit control/escape and my window listing would snap to
screen.
> > If
> > I highlighted text onscreen it highlighted as I swiped the mouse
over
> > it
> > but even now I can swipe the text and the mouse moves but the text
> > doesn't highlight until the system whirrs and hesitates.  Delete
> > highlighted
> > text and it just sits there making me hit the delete key again and
> > again.
> > It is like this with every action I take.
> >
> > Having never had a hard disk go out on me I figured that the
> > system was slow to respond because it was finding it hard to
> > access the hard disk.  The hard disk was paritioned in four
sections
> > leaving OS/2 on one partition, apps on another, a work area on
another
> > and odds and ends on the last partition.  So I called a small
computer
> > repair company and told them I believed my hard drive was going out
> > on me.  For $400 they would install a new 10.2 GIG drive and
guarantee
> > to save and transfer all my data on my other partitions to new
> > partitions
> > on the new drive.  They would also install OS/2 if I gave them the
> > disks
> > and CD.
> >
> > They were successful in installing the 10Gig drive and they were
able
> > to install the old 6G drive as a slave drive.  (I had compressed
each
> > of those partitions into self executing RAR files to make it easier
> > to transfer the data as four large RAR.exe files.)  They were able
to
> > install OS/2 on the C drive but it was the CD version with no
updates.
> > What they couldn't do was partition the new big hard drive (which
> > I did using Partition Magic version 2.0 with no problems).
> >
> > I reformatted the C partition in HPFS wiping out their install of
Warp
> > 4
> > and installed OS/2 all over again.  With just vanilla Warp 4 I
still
> > experienced the hestitation, whirring etc.  I decided to go with
FP11,
> > not 12, because I had experienced a problem earlier (in the first
> > upgrade
> > to FP12) of an ESS sound card trap error.  I hoped that wouldn't
happen
> > with FP11 (but it did).  I hoped the FP11 would magically return my
> > system to its snappy wonderful state it once was before installing
SDD.
> >
> > I now have my system back, have replaced the old 6GIG with another
10.2
> > GIG slave drive (now my system has 20GIG of space), I was able to
> > transfer all of my data back to new partitions but I spent hours
and
> > days
> > bringing my system back to what it was and tracking down all the
the
> > updated drivers and other items.
> >
> > Yet I still have that problem of a slow-reaction and display
> > times.  Is it something SDD did to my system?  Or is it FP12?
> > But I removed them completely.  I reformatted and reinstalled.
> > Surely my system should be normal again but it isn't.
> >
> > Calling up a window list doesn't happen right away.  If I close
> > a program the program stays onscreen and slowly disappears in
blocks of
> > data.  If I scroll up a page the display takes many seconds to
build
> > the page as though it is reaching for more memory.  The machine
itself
> > whirrs.  Swiping, marking text, typing this message, trying to run
a
> > program, clicking on an icon all tend to hesitate.  Clicking on the
> > scroll button to move down a page appears to do nothing at first so
I
> > click it again, and then again but the system beeps, the window
list
> > slowly pops up and finally the scroll begins to take effect.
Believe
> > me, if this is the result of a FixPak I'm going to be very very mad
at
> > IBM because they have literally ruined my machine with such a poor
> > fixpack (yes, I know we're all at our own risk but no program or
> > upgrade should ever destroy or ruin a person's system.  I don't
want to
> > believe SDD ruined my system or ruined any hardware on my system
but I
> > suppose it is possible).
> >
> > I am now wondering if my 64 megs of RAM may be the problem.  Did
> > SDD or FP12 ruin my RAM?  It is pretty new RAM, purchased through
> > Indelible Blue last year soon after my friend gave me this
computer.
> > While my machine was in the shop I had to use a 486 machine with
> > just 8 megs of RAM and it acted just like my current machine does
> > trying to do things, like scroll a web page.  If I clicked too
often it
> > seemed to run out of resources and the system would beep then
> > the window list appears.  I have to wait for the system to catch up
> > and close the window list to get back to my screen.
> >
> > When my system boots up it says 64 megs of ram are installed so I
> > assume it is using all that ram without problem but could it be
that
> > even though the banks of ram are there and identified as being
there by
> > the system, they both or maybe one bank has gone bad on me?  How
can I
> > check that other than by going out and buying new ram and replacing
the
> > old ram just to see if that is the real culprit?  Or is that the
only
> > way to check the problem of bad ram, i.e., simply replace it.
> >
> > I hesitate doing that because I'm just a college student and
literally
> > spent my school money to pay that computer repairman his $400 (and
I
> > realize I was very stupid because I could have easily bought a 10
gig
> > drive and installed it myself and moved the old 6g back to a slave
> > drive for probably $150.)  I don't have the cash to go out and buy
> > another round of 64 megs of ram to swap with my current 64 megs
> > just to see if that is my problem.
> >
> > Now if I can check that ram and find it is not my problem then your
> > FP12 theory may have more validity but at this time I think if I
had
> > reinstalled OS/2 and went only to FP9 I'd still be having the
problems.
> > I say that because I installed OS/2 on a brand new drive with just
> > vanilla Warp 4 and still had the same symptoms I list above.  Even
> > after the upgrade to FP11 I still have the same symptoms/problems.
> >
> > If anyone knows how I may be able to test my RAM through some
program
> > or by some other means please let me know so I can rule out bad RAM
as
> > my problem and look elsewhere to get my system back to what it once
> > was.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: gstrazds@hololasertech.on.ca                      20-Oct-99 03:40:23
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 05:19:03
Subj: Re: fdisk can't read partition table on larger drive (3GB)

From: Glenn Strazds <gstrazds@hololasertech.on.ca>

You may? will need; to update the ide and the other device drivers on your
boot
disks, install disks with current device drivers that recognize current
generation much larger hard disk's...

I had to do this when I upgraded to an 8.4 gig hard drive.

available at device drivers on line at the IBM web site..

Sincerely Glenn Strazds


Michael Shillingford wrote:

> Am trying to install warp 3 and 4 on a new system that has a 3GB drive that
> has been partitioned by Win95B into:
> C: Primary 976 MB Fat  Win95
> D: Extended 1024 MB Fat
> E: Extended 1020 MB Fat
>
> On install, both Warps fdisk program reports that the partition table
> appears to be corrupted, showing only:
> C: primary 976 fat
> ? 2044 MB unknown
>
> I can delete both the partitions using warps fdisk, but then I can't create
> any new ones - the fdisk menus options are all disabled. Have exited fdisk
> without saving since I don't want to remove the first (C) partition, just
> install warp on the extended partitions.
> Using WD Caviar 3020MB IDE drive, 6136 Cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors, LBA
> mode, PIO 4, Blockmode 16 sec, 32bit mode off.
> IDE controller is VXPro-II PC82371

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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          20-Oct-99 09:30:13
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Richard Steiner <rsteiner@visi.com> wrote in message
news:rWUD4oHpvaOB092yn@visi.com...
> Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> >If people badmouth NT it really doesn't bother me.  Quit treating Linux
> >as a treasured posession, it's just an OS for Gods sake & if others don't
> >like it does it really matter that much to you?
>
> Actually, Linux does represent something which is quite different than
> most operating systems (although it's not alone in that, since the free
> BSD flavors and the GNU Hurd are also similar in some respects):
>
> Linux is a non-proprietary operating system, meaning that it can't be
> withdrawn or arbitrarily modified (in the way that so many proprietary
> OSes have been withdrawn or modified in the past) by its owner in such
> a way as to force its users to migrate or leave unwillingly.
>
> I think that's a very important concept to remember, and also something
> well deserving of the kind of attention some of us choose to give it.
>
> I believe that Linux and other open-source operating systems have the
> potential to fundamentally change the manner in which common desktop
> and server operating systems are distributed, updated, and marketed.
>good manners is fast reflexes.


If you enjoy working with Linux I'm not going to argue with that.  The
original post asked for opinions & *my* opinion is that NT is better.
If you enjoy Linux does it honestly matter if I don't?
This is the point I am trying to make.  I simply don't understand some
people who get upset when you tell them you place a MS OS in higher regard
than Linux.
It is simply opinion & personal choice, we are all different.


--
Richard Dakin

+++ No email please +++



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From: paul_floyd@see.sig                                20-Oct-99 10:12:27
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: Re: How to apply fixpacks (nebie to os2)

From: Paul Floyd <paul_floyd@see.sig>


Michael Tyson wrote:
> 
> Have OS2 warp 3 and need to apply fixpack xr_w040.
> 
> What is the coorect procedure? is there there any how two documents on
> this? Currently know nothing about os2.

Well, first of all you have to get the fixpack. You can get it on CD
(various sources, I got mine from Mensys, there are others that sell
them). It saves a lot of time, as the full download is 30-40Mb. If
you're patient (and have free local phone calls) then download them:
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/os/warp/downloads/ leads to the page where
you'll find them. The fixpacks are also on other servers.

What you download is 20 diskette images or so. In the past I've used the
"kicker" diskettes to load fixpacks, but this can be incredibly slow (10
hours on my old 486). If you want to put the fixpacks onto floppies,
you'll need the loaddskf.exe tool. A better option is to copy all the
contents to your hard disk. There are several utilities on Hobbes
(http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-browse?dir=/pub/os2/system/patches/fixpack)
that can be used to perform the process. I've only ever used the disk
extract tool, and then I used the finstall (?) command-line utility 
that is included with the fixpacks. If you do use this, read the doc
carefully. You'll have to tailor a text config file for your system.

Salut
Paul
-- 
Paul Floyd      Focal Ingenierie Sud
Mail: paul underscore floyd at focal dot fr

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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                20-Oct-99 10:39:08
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: Re:Motherboard memory recognition above 64MB

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>


"Graham C. Norris" wrote:
> Some BIOSes can make "holes" in memory for things like AGP,
> bus-mastering devices etc. Make sure your BIOS doesn't have anything
> setting a hole at 64MB. On a similar theme, a piece of hardware may have
> forced itself into the memory map at 64MB. Since you can get Win98 to
> see all 128MB, have a look in it's Device Manager for anything sitting
> at 64MB.

I seem to have the same problem: NT (4.0 ServicePack5) finds 128MB, OS/2
(4.0 fixpack 9), only 64MB on a Gigabyte GA-5AA 'super 7' Ali Aladdin 5
motherboard.
I do use a Matrox G400 (which is an AGP-card). Interestingly, when I tell
the BIOS to 'boot to OS/2' (aka 'OSselect for > 64MB: OS/2'), I get 16000kb
of RAM.
You guessed it: in that case OS/2 uses the video-card's memory. Makes some
nice visual effects (mostly blinks & such).
And I thought that BIOS setting only affected OS/2 2.0 and earlier !

I looked at memory occupation, both in OS/2 & WinNT.
In NT, the AGP card (PCI bus 1, rather than 0) sits @ CC000000hex (which is
way above 128MB, i.e. 8000000hex).
There are no devices showing up between 64MB (4000000hex) and 128MB
(8000000hex).
In OS/2, the only driver that uses the 64-to-128MB region, is an AMD setup
utility which checks the processors 'write allocation' and apparently maps
it from 8010000hex(just above 128MB) to 4010000 (just above 64MB), because
it thinks there's only 64MB of RAM (I guess it depends on OS/2 to get that
number).
I suspect that means the BIOS has already mapped the write allocation to the
right place (just above 128MB), but the BIOS is not able to tell OS/2 there
is 128MB ??

On top of your tips, I'v tried replacing the AGP with a PCI card. No
difference :-(

Next, I'm gonna mail Gigabyte in Germany. It seems Germans like alternative
OS's & software (like StarOffice), so I have high hopes. (Blesseth are the
naive ;-)
I'll suggest they 'update' the OS/2 option in the BIOS, so it caters for our
OS/2 4.0 problem, rather than the good old OS/2 2.0 problem.

OS/2 forever !

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From: ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com                          19-Oct-99 13:47:03
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 10:29:02
Subj: Re: Stupid LAN Question

From: Ben Hamilton <ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com>

Stevie wrote:
> 
> For years I have had a copy of OS/2 Warp v3 with Bonux Pack sat on my shelf
> doing nothing, now I have decided to try it out (mainly out of curiosity)
> however I have ht upon a wonderful problem, just how do I connect it to my
> LAN ?
> 
> The machine is a P150 Compaq Prosignia 500. I have downloaded all the
> softpacs from Compaq but I cannot get the machine to install the net card
> drivers. It keeps complaining about not having a 'profile control file'. Any
> help will be appreciated I know the machine is sound as it previously ran
> SCO Open Server with no problems.

I think you will need a different version of OS/2 Warp (Connect or Warp 4) to
be
able to network, or an additional product from IBM (Warp Server)?

Get Warp 4!  It rocks!  And works well with Win95/98.  :-)

-- Ben Hamilton
-- ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com
--
-- Spam filter in use!
-- Remove "2001" from email address if replying via email.

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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             18-Oct-99 19:57:20
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:40:30 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

>In my experience, the main practical difference between serial and PS/2
>mice is that the former uses up (only) a serial port; the latter does not
>but uses up an IRQ instead.  (At least, it does unless I'm sadly mistaken.
>Feel free to slap me silly in that case...)

Umm, a serial mouse uses an IRQ _and_ a com port as well, whereas
neither one is required by MY PS/2 mouse, anyway.


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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               20-Oct-99 00:16:12
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo <bvermo@powertech.no>

Alex Taylor wrote:

>
> There are only so many "common" free IRQs in a machine, and 12 is one of
> them.  More computer add-ons require IRQs than serial ports, is the rest of
> my point.
>

If you use a com port for your pointing device, it will take up either IRQ 3
or 4.
If you use the mouse port, it will take up IRQ 12. Either way, you will use
exactly the same number of IRQs (i.e. one) for the mouse, and 12 is hardly
"more
valuable" than 3 or 4. If anything, I have seen more network adapters, sound
cards
and suchlike which could be set to IRQ 3 or 4 than 12.

In any case, the mouse port is not really different from a serial port, it
just
uses a different device driver. Some day, I'll try to set up the system with a
serial mouse and define the mouse port as COM3, to see if I can look at the
data
from the IBM mouse in a terminal program.



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From: ispalten@us.ibm.com                               20-Oct-99 08:43:25
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: How to apply fixpacks (nebie to os2)

From: Irv Spalten <ispalten@us.ibm.com>

Michael, if you are a newbie, and want to learn what FP's are all about,
go here,
http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/fp.html

The easiest way by far to install any FP is by using Remote Software
Update (RSU) via your browser. Go here to set-up and locate any FP,
http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html

Irv

Michael Tyson wrote:
> 
> Have OS2 warp 3 and need to apply fixpack xr_w040.
> 
> What is the coorect procedure? is there there any how two documents on
> this? Currently know nothing about os2.

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From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu                          20-Oct-99 14:14:07
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: How to apply fixpacks (nebie to os2)

From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen)

Other than getting a "WarpUp" fixpack CD from Indelible Blue, 
by far the easiest way to fixpack a Warp system is to get some 
version of OS/2 native netscape functioning from IBM's software 

choice: http://www-4.ibm.com/software/os/warp/swchoice/ 

(Navigator 2.02 runs fine on Warp 3 even without fixpacks) 
and then go to IBM's OS/2 update page:

http://ps.software.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html

Here you can activate the RSU update utility for OS/2 netscape
which will allow you to automatically download, extract, and 
install current fixpacks. A link is also provided to instructions on 
how to install fixpacks from files downloaded to your hard disk 
without making floppies, should you prefer this route over using the 
RSU utility.

--Kevin 


On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:17:49 GMT, Michael Tyson 
<MTyson@meritbrass.com> wrote:
>Have OS2 warp 3 and need to apply fixpack xr_w040.
>
>What is the coorect procedure? is there there any how two documents on 
>this? Currently know nothing about os2.
>

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From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com                       20-Oct-99 14:44:18
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: associations - default image viewer questions

From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com

 19 Oct 99 03:22, Doug Fitzpatrick wrote to All:

I want to change the default image viewer from the standard Warp
  one DF to PMView.


Doug, go to: 


http://www.quickmotion.com/


or to Hobbes 

and download  the fix.

From the Read Me:


Background info:
A problem was introduced in Warp 4 (and not sufficiently
corrected in FixPak 1) which causes the Open As... view
for image files to be unalterably set to IBM's "Image Viewer".

The fix:
This package installs two new WPS classes which override the
default Open As... view for image files to follow the normal
association rules for data files.

To install:
 - Copy primage.dll to a directory on your LIBPATH,
   such as \OS2\DLL.
 - Run primgfix.exe.
 - Shut down and reboot.

To uninstall:
 - Run the command "primgfix -uninstall".
 - Shut down and reboot.
 - Delete primage.dll from the directory to which
   you copied it.

----------------------------------------------
Many thanks go to Rich Walsh, author of
DragText, for his help.  Get DragText at
http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/


bab

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From: fritzo@humboldt.net                               19-Oct-99 22:19:07
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: fritzo@humboldt.net(Fritz Oppliger)

In <7uh4fp$pj3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/19/99 
   at 06:52 AM, j.welton@mailcity.com said:

>the preview version of the SciTech Display Doctor.

>SDD ruined my ability to view my display screen so I removed <it> using the
>uninstall program that came with it not realizing the SDd program had
>deleted my updated Trio S3 drivers.  I expected to be returned to VGA
>mode and simply re-install my S3 drivers, except they were gone. 

How awful! 
 Could there be a virus?



>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
 

fritzo@humboldt.net(Fritz Oppliger) KE6VDA

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From: jnichols@tcia.net                                 20-Oct-99 13:40:22
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:27
Subj: Re: LexMark Optra Color 40

From: jnichols@tcia.net

In <380bd2ac_3@news3.prserv.net>, on 10/19/99 
   at 02:08 AM, ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller) said:

>In message <ZRNO3.7577$5W2.239626@news6.giganews.com> -
>jnichols@tcia.netMon, 18 Oct 1999 19:10:27 -0400 writes:
>:>
>:>To All,
>:>
>:> Can someone tell me if the Optra 40 is far less cpu intense than the
>:>LexMark 5700 ? How is the print quality compared to the two printers?
>:>I'm thinking of buy one but want to be sure of the cpu usage..

>Hello Nick

>I sure hope so as I have just purchased one to replace a Lexmark 3200. Its
>being delivered on Friday so if no one else responds I will let you know how
>it goes for me. There is a write up about the Optra 40 on the SCOUG web page
>but the reviewer doesn't directly compare it to a 5700. He did gave the
>printer a very favourable review.

>Ted Miller
>ecmille@ibm.net

That sound fine.  Can't wait to hear about it.

Thanks,
Nick

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           20-Oct-99 17:58:24
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Vortex 1 8820 driver and WSeB

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

I have a Vortex 1 8820 chipset sound card installed
on a machine.

The card works properly with Warp 4 FP 12, Wave
sound cuts off quickly but the drivers load and the
CD player apps work correctly.

On identical hardware using WSeB SMP
the drivers appear to load but the sound does
not work and the Mixer app that comes with
the sound card produces an error message that
the sound card driver is not loaded.

Is anyone else using one of these cards with
WSeB?

I sent an E-Mail off to support@aureal.com but
haven't seen a response yet.

Lorne Sunley

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From: deimos@nospam.m2.is.net.tw                        21-Oct-99 01:59:26
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re:Motherboard memory recognition above 64MB

From: "D.J" <deimos@nospam.m2.is.net.tw>

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:39:16 +0100, Wim Wauters wrote:

Hi. I'm sorry for my poor english.

>I seem to have the same problem: NT (4.0 ServicePack5) finds 128MB, OS/2
>(4.0 fixpack 9), only 64MB on a Gigabyte GA-5AA 'super 7' Ali Aladdin 5
>motherboard.
>I do use a Matrox G400 (which is an AGP-card). Interestingly, when I tell
>the BIOS to 'boot to OS/2' (aka 'OSselect for > 64MB: OS/2'), I get 16000kb
>of RAM.

 I have the same problem, too. I have 2 motherboard. One is Iwill XA-100
 and the other is Epox MVP3G-M. The chip Iwill XA-100 used is Ali
 Aladdin 5 and the BIOS is AMI BIOS. The chip Epox MVP3G-M used is VIA
 MVP3 and the BIOS is AWard BIOS. When I first time use Iwill XA-100 my
 OS/2 just can see 64MB. If I use 'boot to OS/2' my OS/2 just can see
 32MB. But when I use Epox MVP3G-M my OS/2 can see all 128MB RAM.

 I don't know why. I bought the Iwill XA-100 first. Because of this, I
 bought Epox MVP3G-M. After I bought Epox MVP3G-M several weeks, I see
 Iwill release new BIOS. The new BIOS is not AMI BIOS but AWard BIOS.
 I still don't try the new BIOS will fix this problem or not.

D.J


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From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell...               20-Oct-99 19:25:02
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net

From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)

In article <7uk17u$m61$2@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>,
	"Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net> writes:
> 
> Richard Steiner <rsteiner@visi.com> wrote in message
> news:rWUD4oHpvaOB092yn@visi.com...
>>
>> I believe that Linux and other open-source operating systems have the
>> potential to fundamentally change the manner in which common desktop
>> and server operating systems are distributed, updated, and marketed.
> 
> If you enjoy working with Linux I'm not going to argue with that.

Richard's point isn't dependant upon whether or not you like Linux; it's
more of a meta-comment about the impact Linux may have upon the industry.

> The
> original post asked for opinions & *my* opinion is that NT is better.
> If you enjoy Linux does it honestly matter if I don't?
> This is the point I am trying to make.  I simply don't understand some
> people who get upset when you tell them you place a MS OS in higher regard
> than Linux.
> It is simply opinion & personal choice, we are all different.

All very true, but your original reply on this query was (in part):

> Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left foot

That's not a very diplomatic way of saying you don't like something, nor
does it present anything specific to back up the claim.  It's not even
clear if you're talking about Linux's underlying code base or entirely
surface characteristics like the desktop environment.  This combination of
vagueness and an insult launched at a product is guaranteed to provoke a
response, particularly since some possible interpretations of the comment
also suggest lack of knowledge (e.g., if you're referring to a Linux GUI
environment, the fact that there are literally dozens of such environments
available suggests you were unfamiliar with that basic fact).  If you want
to avoid being accused of posting trolls, try posting less vague claims
phrased in a less insulting manner.  That said, I certainly do agree that
highly emotional invective based on a one-line comment is also not in
order.

-- 
Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: fritzo@humboldt.net                               20-Oct-99 08:22:28
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Is there a hardware Dr. in the house?

From: fritzo@humboldt.net(Fritz Oppliger)

In <7ujmhn$jdq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/20/99 
   at 06:13 AM, jwelton@my-deja.com said:

>I am very angry and frustrated with IBM if this is truly a forced and
>unauthorized change to my bios settings.

Have you considered a corrupt BIOS - can you re-flash it? 
Good luck!
Fritz

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     20-Oct-99 19:03:09
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: How to apply fixpacks (nebie to os2)

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:17:49, MTyson@meritbrass.com (Michael Tyson) 
wrote:

> Have OS2 warp 3 and need to apply fixpack xr_w040.
> 
> What is the coorect procedure? is there there any how two documents on 
> this? Currently know nothing about os2.
> 

The instructions come in the README.1ST file, that comes with the fix 
pack. However, I suggest going to the OS/2 supersite 
(http://www.os2ss.com), and follow the link to the new user section. 
Scan down there, and there is a section about how to get, and install 
fix packs (which includes alternate installation methods, which make 
life somewhat easier).

There is a LOT of other good information there as well.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     20-Oct-99 19:03:09
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: Stupid LAN Question

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:47:07, Ben Hamilton <ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com> 
wrote:

> Get Warp 4!  It rocks!  

I agree with this...

And works well with Win95/98.  :-)

This statement, may be a little misleading. Win9x will coexist with 
OS/2 (3 and 4), in a different partition. On the other hand, OS/2 will
NOT run native Win9x programs (it will run *most* Win31programs). 
There are also some problems with FAT32 partitions (especially, if you
have multiple primary C: drives, where one, or more, are FAT32). There
are also possible conflicts with Win9x utility programs, that don't 
always get along with some of the OS/2 stuff. On the bright side, OS/2
doesn't, normally, bother the Win9x system.

Hope this clarifies the situation a little.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: Geert.Stevens@ping.be                             20-Oct-99 21:02:28
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Netscape 4.61 - Java 1.16 problem

From: Geert Stevens <Geert.Stevens@ping.be>

Hello,

since the upgraded from netscape 4.04 (with java 1.16 installed) to 4.61
I have errors like "JAVA VERSION NOT SUPPORTED" on sites that I have
visited with 4.04 without any problem!

Any help ?

Geert

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From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca                       20-Oct-99 19:38:16
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: OS/2 Hardware Reviews

From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

With so many people asking questions about hardware recently (me
included!), I just realized that there is no hardware review site for OS/2
users!

Obviously, the big sites don't cover OS/2, just WinXX. (And even then,
they seem gamer oriented).

Would it be easiest to setup a section in OS/2 E-Zine or the VOICE
newsletter for just such a purpose?
I can't do a site myself (nor other OS/2 users I assume) cause we're not
rich and we don't come across that much hardware! I doubt the major
vendors would be willing to lend us the goods without having made a name
for ourselves.

I'm willing to start the ball rolling. OS/2 e-zine still seems to be doing
renovation, so I'll submit a piece to VOICE about the AceCad tablet I
acquired a while back....



Isaac

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From: David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net                      20-Oct-99 16:49:06
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>

Richard Steiner wrote:

>
>
> You must mean installing it in a Dual-boot configuration?
>
> --
>    -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>      OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
>       + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
>            What? Monday again! Didn't we have that last week?

Yes, you're right. I should have elaborated. I did mean a dual-boot
configuration.

It seems you'd be the guy to ask about OS questions, judging by your
tagline! Wow.

Dave

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From: r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net                          20-Oct-99 22:06:02
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 19:50:28
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>

Rod Smith <rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:kGoP3.10$mq6.1539@typhoon2.gnilink.net...
> In article <7uk17u$m61$2@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>,
> "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net> writes:
> >
> > Richard Steiner <rsteiner@visi.com> wrote in message
> > news:rWUD4oHpvaOB092yn@visi.com...
> >>
> >> I believe that Linux and other open-source operating systems have the
> >> potential to fundamentally change the manner in which common desktop
> >> and server operating systems are distributed, updated, and marketed.
> >
> > If you enjoy working with Linux I'm not going to argue with that.
>
> Richard's point isn't dependant upon whether or not you like Linux; it's
> more of a meta-comment about the impact Linux may have upon the industry.
>
> > The
> > original post asked for opinions & *my* opinion is that NT is better.
> > If you enjoy Linux does it honestly matter if I don't?
> > This is the point I am trying to make.  I simply don't understand some
> > people who get upset when you tell them you place a MS OS in higher
regard
> > than Linux.
> > It is simply opinion & personal choice, we are all different.
>
> All very true, but your original reply on this query was (in part):
>
> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left
foot
>
> That's not a very diplomatic way of saying you don't like something, nor
> does it present anything specific to back up the claim.  It's not even
> clear if you're talking about Linux's underlying code base or entirely
> surface characteristics like the desktop environment.  This combination of
> vagueness and an insult launched at a product is guaranteed to provoke a
> response, particularly since some possible interpretations of the comment
> also suggest lack of knowledge (e.g., if you're referring to a Linux GUI
> environment, the fact that there are literally dozens of such environments
> available suggests you were unfamiliar with that basic fact).  If you want

> to avoid being accused of posting trolls, try posting less vague claims
> phrased in a less insulting manner.  That said, I certainly do agree that
> highly emotional invective based on a one-line comment is also not in
> order.


This comment was tongue in cheek & I find it amazing that people can be
offended by it.
Yes I know about the numerous GUI's, I've tried lots of them & dislike them
all.
Once again, it is just an operating system, not worth losing sleep over when
someone doesn't like it.


--
Richard Dakin

+++ No email please +++



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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  20-Oct-99 18:18:11
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:25
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 - Java 1.16 problem

From: mchasson@ibm.net

In <380E1FEF.63AA8EFC@ping.be>, on 10/20/99 at 09:02 PM,
   Geert Stevens <Geert.Stevens@ping.be> said:

>Hello,

>since the upgraded from netscape 4.04 (with java 1.16 installed) to 4.61
>I have errors like "JAVA VERSION NOT SUPPORTED" on sites that I have
>visited with 4.04 without any problem!

>Any help ?

>Geert

RTFM Geert.  It plainly states Java 1.17 or above.
-- 
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
mchasson@ibm.net
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51 

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From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com                              20-Oct-99 23:21:09
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:25
Subj: Re: associations - default image viewer questions

From: gdfitzpat@smartt.com (Doug Fitzpatrick)

In message
<9y3No3D24mDV-pn2-gdIdskqhW81L@CEIP-T-005-p-156-92.tmns.net.au> -
babnospam@nospambigpond.comWed, 20 Oct 1999 14:44:36 GMT writes:
:>
:> 19 Oct 99 03:22, Doug Fitzpatrick wrote to All:
:>
:>I want to change the default image viewer from the standard Warp
:>  one DF to PMView.
:>
:>
:>Doug, go to: 
:>
:>
:>http://www.quickmotion.com/
That did it! Thanks!

Doug



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From: kengrant@gte.net                                  20-Oct-99 23:00:03
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:25
Subj: Re: Diamond Viper: How to set Refresh Rate

From: kengrant@gte.net

Sorry Sir, however, I threw away Weitek chips on OS/2 a long time ago.
Check out Matrox cards.  They perform well and are supported on OS/2.  The
Mellenimum II G200 is top of the line.  The older gear can be had quite
cheap.  See

http://www.pricewatch.com/

search for Matrox AND PCI.

The TNT Viper 550 is supported by later service packs with their new GRADD
drivers but seems to be hard to find now.

If you choose OS/2 you may need to refine your hardware choices in order to
be successful (happy) with OS/2.

KenG



"C. Keltsch" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've got a Diamond Viper Pro PCI with a WEITEK 9130 Chip. Warp 4 can use
> it with
> it built-in driver for the Weitek 9100, but I am not able to set the
> Refresh-Rate for the
> System. Is there another solution to get away from the incredible 60Hz
> ... :(
>
> Any hints are welcome,
>
> Carsten

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From: bhk@dsl.co.uk                                     20-Oct-99 23:57:17
  To: All                                               20-Oct-99 21:23:25
Subj: Re: OS/2 Hardware Reviews

From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly})

On 20 Oct, in article <7ul5no$llm$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca>
     isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca "e-frog" wrote:

> With so many people asking questions about hardware recently (me
> included!), I just realized that there is no hardware review site for OS/2
> users!

[snip]

An update of the erstwhile GBU FAQ would be a good start.

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
    "But we're a university.  We /have/ to have a library!..."said Ridcully,
         "What sort of people would we be if we didn't go into the library?"
    "Students", said the Senior Wrangler, morosely. [TP: The Last Continent]

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From: nospam_ktk@netlabs.org                            21-Oct-99 02:42:16
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: OS/2 Hardware Reviews

From: "Adrian Gschwend" <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org>

On 20 Oct 1999 19:38:32 GMT, e-frog wrote:

>With so many people asking questions about hardware recently (me
>included!), I just realized that there is no hardware review site for OS/2
>users!

That's not really true, there is a page about this subject at
http://www.os2.org, it's very well done but it looks like not a lot of people
know it until now.

Check it out and let other people know about this!

cu

Adrian


---
Adrian Gschwend
@ OS/2 Netlabs

ICQ: 22419590
ktk@netlabs.org
-------
The OS/2 OpenSource Project:
http://www.netlabs.org


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From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell...               21-Oct-99 03:48:07
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net

From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)

In article <7ulban$83t$2@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>,
	"Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net> writes:
> 
> Rod Smith <rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
> news:kGoP3.10$mq6.1539@typhoon2.gnilink.net...
>> In article <7uk17u$m61$2@nclient11-gui.server.virgin.net>,
>> "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net> writes:
>>
>> > Linux - Looks like it's been designed by a 3 year old using their left
> foot
>>
>> to avoid being accused of posting trolls, try posting less vague claims
>> phrased in a less insulting manner.  That said, I certainly do agree that
>> highly emotional invective based on a one-line comment is also not in
>> order.
> 
> This comment was tongue in cheek & I find it amazing that people can be
> offended by it.

YOU certainly knew what was in your mind when you posted, but your
readers aren't psychic.  There are plenty of foaming-at-the-mouth types
on any side in any OS comparison, and a tongue-in-cheek posting like your
original message (or that one line of it, anyhow) is easily
misinterpreted as coming from such a person, which of course provokes
responses, both from those who aren't really foaming at the mouth but who
want to head off false claims by those who are and by people on the other
side who do possess foam about their mouths.  It didn't help any that your
tongue-in-cheek line was the ONLY thing you said about Linux.

> Yes I know about the numerous GUI's, I've tried lots of them & dislike them
> all.

Which wasn't clear in your original post, which could easily be interpreted
in other ways.

I don't mean any of these comments to be taken in a controntational or
finger-pointing sort of way; I'm just trying to point out that brief and
unclear comments can easily be misinterpreted, particularly in a medium
like Usenet news, which is both subject to flamewars and devoid of the
usual visual and verbal cues we use to interpret intent.

-- 
Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: jdparker@erols.com                                20-Oct-99 23:38:19
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: Dual OS2/Win95

From: Jim Parker <jdparker@erols.com>

Jean-Michel Dossogne wrote:

> Hello Jbrush@aros.Net.
>
> Samedi 16 Octobre 1999 07:14, jbrush@aros.net wrote to All:
>
>  j> Never had any problems. Just don't ever use any disk utilities from
>  j> Microsoft land, such as defrag, or fdisk. Let OS/2 handle that stuff for
>  j> you. The M$ stuff will kill Warp if it sees it.
> any idea how to install warp in dual boot on a drive that is fat32? - with
the
> new fat32 ifs, of course
> how will the boot manager install himself on that already used partition
(2gb)?
>
> Jean-Michel
> +++++++++++++++++
> + Doggy's Internet Gateway - +32-71-666292 - V34+ & X75
> + Disclaimer: Les articles n'engagent QUE leurs auteurs, pas la passerelle

Why would you want to install OS/2 on a FAT32 partition?

Boot manager gets installed in its own partition. It takes about 7M maybe less 
and
it counts as a primary partition.

Perhaps you have a couple of misconceptions.

First, there is a difference betwen dual boot and boot manager. IBM's Boot
Manager
resides in a partition by itself and is the active partition.  When you boot
up,
it's that partition that boots up and it presents you with a menu of other
partitions you can boot. Once you've made your selection, Boot Manager then
brings
up the partition you selected. Dual boot is the capability that came with Warp 
3
(and perhaps earlier editions of Warp) that allowed you to boot either OS/2 or 
DOS
from a primary partition (must be C:). Its been sometime since I used it but
as I
recall there were a pair of commands which reconfigured the partition. One
configured it to boot DOS, the other configured it to boot OS/2. When in OS/2
you
might execute the command to boot DOS and when in DOS you might execute the
command
to boot OS/2. So, in a nutshell, Boot Manager allows you to select which
partition
to boot and dual boot allows you to determine which OS gets booted from a
particular partition (the choices are limited to OS/2 and DOS and only a
primary
partition can have this feature).

Second, aside from dual boot, only one operating system can be installed in
any
partition. DOS, Win3x and Win9x must be installed in primary partitions on the
first drive (I.e., they must be C: when booted). OS/2 can be installed in a
logical
partition or a primary partition on any drive  and thus have any drive letter
C-Z.
WinNT has some different considerations which I don't have any experience
with.
Thus if you have a FAT32 partition it probably has Win9x installed in it. If
you
install OS/2 in it, you'd wipe out Win9X. If you are going to wipe out Win95,
you
might as well reformat the drive as FAT or HPFS. (Actually, my guess is that
you'd
have to reformat it as FAT or HPFS. Even though you have a FAT32 IFS, it isn't
installed in the install disks so they wouldn't know how to deal with your
FAT32
partition.) If you want to have both Win9x and OS/2, you'll have to shrink
your
FAT32 partition (assuming it now occupies the entire drive) to create room for 
an
OS/2 partition. This new partition should be formated FAT or HPFS. You can't
do
this with fdisk because it will wipe out everything. You'll need something
like
Partition Magic which allows you to dynamically resize partitions without
losing
data. The latest version of Partition Magic comes with a boot manager called
Boot
Magic which is somewhat different from Boot Manager. I have it but I haven't
used
it being happy with Boot Manager.

Jim

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 20-Oct-99 22:51:22
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, David Reiff <David_Reiff@worldnet.att.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>It seems you'd be the guy to ask about OS questions, judging by your
>tagline! Wow.

For general things, perhaps, but I'm far from "expert" in any of them,
and only consider myself an "experienced user" in a few (OS/2, DOS, and
Win95, and perhaps also one or two flavors of Linux).

OSes are just complicated games, anyway...right?  :-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                 No reason for it; it's just my policy.

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 20-Oct-99 22:44:24
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Re: OS2, NT or Linux

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Richard Dakin" <r.dakin@nospamvirgin.net>
spake unto us, saying:

>If you enjoy working with Linux I'm not going to argue with that.  The
>original post asked for opinions & *my* opinion is that NT is better.

Yes, and yours is certainly a valid opinion.  Different people will
often have different priorities and criteria for judging an OS, and
even my own opinions can vary tremendously depending on context.

Anyway, I just jumped into this thread from the peanut gallery to make
the general observation that Linux might represent a lot more to some
folks than "just another alternative OS".  It represents a methodology
and a software culture as well.

>If you enjoy Linux does it honestly matter if I don't?

Not at all.  :-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                    Flee at once, all is discovered.

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From: marcelor@acs.bu.edu                               21-Oct-99 05:11:01
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 03:14:02
Subj: Looking for Drivers for 3Com 3C574 PCMCIA NIC

From: marcelor@acs.bu.edu ( Marcelo  Rodrigues )

Hello,

 I just got this 100/10 Mbit card and I am looking for drivers.
I looked at the 3Com site but they have very little drivers for
OS/2 and I didn't  see any mention of drivers for this card.

Thanks,
Marcelo

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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             21-Oct-99 08:18:09
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 05:18:01
Subj: PINBALL.SYS and FP12?

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

Hello,

I recently ungraded one of my computers, which can dual boot
between OS/2 and NT4, from FP8 to FP12. Yesterday I booted to
NT for the first time since the upgrade and I find that I can 
nolonger see my HPFS partitions from NT.
I have PINBALL.SYS installed on NT and all the HPFS partitions
were there last time I booted to NT.

Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12 can see HPFS
partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 & FP12 that
stops it working?
I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I wouldn't really
expect to since it is not really supported.

TIA,
-- 
Dave

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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                21-Oct-99 11:21:05
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 10:33:27
Subj: Re: Motherboard memory recognition above 64MB

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>


"D.J" wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:39:16 +0100, Wim Wauters wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm sorry for my poor english.
>
> >I seem to have the same problem: NT (4.0 ServicePack5) finds 128MB, OS/2
> >(4.0 fixpack 9), only 64MB on a Gigabyte GA-5AA 'super 7' Ali Aladdin 5
> >motherboard.
> >I do use a Matrox G400 (which is an AGP-card). Interestingly, when I tell
> >the BIOS to 'boot to OS/2' (aka 'OSselect for > 64MB: OS/2'), I get 16000kb
> >of RAM.
>
>  I have the same problem, too. I have 2 motherboard. One is Iwill XA-100
>  and the other is Epox MVP3G-M. The chip Iwill XA-100 used is Ali
>  Aladdin 5 and the BIOS is AMI BIOS. The chip Epox MVP3G-M used is VIA
>  MVP3 and the BIOS is AWard BIOS. When I first time use Iwill XA-100 my
>  OS/2 just can see 64MB. If I use 'boot to OS/2' my OS/2 just can see
>  32MB.

Do you have a 32MB video card on that Iwill system ?

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From: uliw@erdw.ethz.ch                                 21-Oct-99 13:24:14
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:10
Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12?

From: Uli Wortmann <uliw@erdw.ethz.ch>

dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons) writes:
 last time I booted to NT.
> 
> Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12 can see HPFS
> partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 & FP12 that
> stops it working?
> I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I wouldn't really
> expect to since it is not really supported.

Works for fp10 here

	uli
-- 
	Uli Wortmann           Fax (Switzerland) (1) 632  1080
	Dept. of Geology       Fon                        3694
	ETH-Zuerich    http://www.erdw.ethz.ch/~bonk/bonk.html
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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 21-Oct-99 12:30:04
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: fdisk can't read partition table on larger drive (3GB)

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:18:10, "Michael Shillingford" 
<mshill@elkvalley.net> wrote:

> Am trying to install warp 3 and 4 on a new system that has a 3GB drive that
> has been partitioned by Win95B into:
> C: Primary 976 MB Fat  Win95
> D: Extended 1024 MB Fat
> E: Extended 1020 MB Fat
> 
> On install, both Warps fdisk program reports that the partition table
> appears to be corrupted, showing only:
> C: primary 976 fat
> ? 2044 MB unknown
> 
> I can delete both the partitions using warps fdisk, but then I can't create
> any new ones - the fdisk menus options are all disabled. Have exited fdisk
> without saving since I don't want to remove the first (C) partition, just
> install warp on the extended partitions.

Michael, 

It could be that when you created the Extended partition with your Win95B,
the partition was made a "Type 0F". This is a partition type that OS/2 
does not recognize. (The OS/2 counterpart is a "Type 05" partition.) The 
Extended partition is like a container for the Logical partitions you 
create within the Extended partitions boundry. When you tried to delete 
the Logical partition using Warps FDISK you didn't go far enough. To have 
Warp FDISK to create new partitions you have to first delete the Logical 
partitions (which you did),  AND the Extended partition. After that you 
should be able to create first a new Extended partition  and the further 
divide this into several Logical partitions.

As you probably know, in order to install Warp to a Logical partition you 
have to first install Boot Manager. Boot Manager have to be installed in a
Primary partition on the first physical hard disk in your system.

Don't worry about you present C: partition. FDISK will not touch it if you
don't tell it to. It will remain as is.

Jan Swartling
 Blue Soft
 Sweden

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From: bl10@nospam.cam.ac.uk                             21-Oct-99 13:44:26
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Amacom PCMCIA ZIP drive

From: Barry Landy <bl10@nospam.cam.ac.uk>

Has anyone got this to work on a partable running OS2?


--
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University of Cambridge Computing Service
New Museums Site                   Email: Remove "nospam" from above
Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG









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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         21-Oct-99 13:21:20
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: OS/2 Hardware Reviews

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

In article <xgxargynofbet.fjxxaw0.pminews@news.aart.ch>,
  "Adrian Gschwend" <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org> wrote:
> On 20 Oct 1999 19:38:32 GMT, e-frog wrote:
>
> >With so many people asking questions about hardware recently (me
> >included!), I just realized that there is no hardware review site
for OS/2
> >users!
>
> That's not really true, there is a page about this subject at
> http://www.os2.org, it's very well done but it looks like not a lot
of people
> know it until now.
>
> Check it out and let other people know about this!

I just went and looked at it.  It's not much of a review site.  Doesn't
discuss the pros and cons of any particular bit of hardware.  It
doesn't explain how the rating was arrived at, though there *is* a
rating.  And there's not much listed there.  While it's better than
nothing, I wouldn't call it "very well done". :)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: nospam_ktk@netlabs.org                            21-Oct-99 17:25:16
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 14:39:11
Subj: Re: OS/2 Hardware Reviews

From: "Adrian Gschwend" <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:21:40 GMT, Siobhan Perricone wrote:

>I just went and looked at it.  It's not much of a review site.  Doesn't
>discuss the pros and cons of any particular bit of hardware.  It
>doesn't explain how the rating was arrived at, though there *is* a
>rating.  And there's not much listed there.  While it's better than
>nothing, I wouldn't call it "very well done". :)

Ok, then contact the webmasters of the page, I know them and I am sure that
they are going to include something like that if you tell them what you would
like to get.

cu

Adrian



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From: deimos@nospam.m2.is.net.tw                        22-Oct-99 00:36:21
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: Motherboard memory recognition above 64MB

From: "D.J" <deimos@nospam.m2.is.net.tw>

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:21:10 +0100, Wim Wauters wrote:

>"D.J" wrote:
>> Hi. I'm sorry for my poor english.
>>
>>  I have the same problem, too. I have 2 motherboard. One is Iwill XA-100
>>  and the other is Epox MVP3G-M. The chip Iwill XA-100 used is Ali
>>  Aladdin 5 and the BIOS is AMI BIOS. The chip Epox MVP3G-M used is VIA
>>  MVP3 and the BIOS is AWard BIOS. When I first time use Iwill XA-100 my
>>  OS/2 just can see 64MB. If I use 'boot to OS/2' my OS/2 just can see
>>  32MB.
>
>Do you have a 32MB video card on that Iwill system ?

  No. When I did that test, the video card I used is PCI LeadTek S280
  (S3 Trio64V+).


                                                           D.J
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ftp://ftp.pcenduser.com - ùgÏH
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From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca                           21-Oct-99 19:54:23
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 16:48:12
Subj: Re: OS/2 Hardware Reviews

From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Adrian Gschwend (nospam_ktk@netlabs.org) wrote:
: On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:21:40 GMT, Siobhan Perricone wrote:

: >I just went and looked at it.  It's not much of a review site.  Doesn't
: >discuss the pros and cons of any particular bit of hardware.  It
: >doesn't explain how the rating was arrived at, though there *is* a
: >rating.  And there's not much listed there.  While it's better than
: >nothing, I wouldn't call it "very well done". :)

: Ok, then contact the webmasters of the page, I know them and I am sure that
: they are going to include something like that if you tell them what you
would
: like to get.

Hmm..I must admit I didn't know about that link.
Secondly, even pointing to OS2.org, it took me a while to figure out it
was under "Projects".

I agree that such a database is a good idea. But I was thinking more along
the lines of....say, www.sharkyextreme.com for example. (Except the don't
do OS/2).
A real in-depth review and how it performs under OS/2. The one under
OS2.org might consists of archives of such articles...


Isaac

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From: nineveh@wwa.com                                   21-Oct-99 23:22:11
  To: All                                               21-Oct-99 21:24:22
Subj: Re: Looking for Drivers for 3Com 3C574 PCMCIA NIC

From: nineveh@wwa.com

In <7um797$2gd$1@news1.bu.edu>, marcelor@acs.bu.edu ( Marcelo  Rodrigues )
writes:
>Hello,
>
> I just got this 100/10 Mbit card and I am looking for drivers.
>I looked at the 3Com site but they have very little drivers for
>OS/2 and I didn't  see any mention of drivers for this card.

Try the IBM OS/2 Device Driver Online

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/



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From: z1002002001@my-deja.com                           22-Oct-99 01:14:01
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 02:30:00
Subj: Re: How do I? ESS1688 Sound Card

From: z1002002001@my-deja.com

Over in comp.os.os2.bugs some people are complaining about this
problem. I applied FP10 to an unserviced Warp 4 with ESS1688 drivers,
and sure enough, the trap 000D happens. Installing drivers from the DD
pak online doesn't change a thing.

Is there a fixpak that gives Y2K readiness without kakking the audio?

andrew

> I upgraded my system to FP11 and received a trap error on reboot.
> A very nice OS2 user named Trevor advised FP11 and FP12 broke
> compatibility with the ESS sound cards and to get my desktop back
> I should REM out the config.sys lines for the ESS driver.

> So I'm wondering if anyone has experiened this FP11 or FP12 ESS trap
> problem and if they were able to find a work-around, other than
buying
> a new compatible sound card.  I would appreciate it if only those who
> have actually experiened the problem and were able to fix it respond.


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From: cecilio@cesser.com                                18-Oct-99 12:40:28
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Problem installing mpts

From: "Cecilio Mendez" <cecilio@cesser.com>

Sorry by my English is very bad .
When I install os2 warp 3 and i select lan support and tcpip the system
hangs with a white screen. When i install only os2 warp 3 without lan
support the installation goes well.
Thanks



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From: aeh@sci.fi                                        22-Oct-99 09:46:02
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 05:24:03
Subj: Re: NVidia Drivers

From: Alexander Ehrnrooth <aeh@sci.fi>

John Griffin wrote:
> 
> no problems here nividia riva tnt (stb4400)
> Peter Stein wrote in message <7u2fg2$k8q$1@flood.xnet.com>...
> >In article <gYZM3.815$yp.5294@news.rdc1.pa.home.com>,
> > <tvoltagg@home.com> wrote:
> >>Does anyone have any experience with the NVidia drivers in OS/2?
> >>Which card are you using?  How good is it?
> >
> >You beat me to it. I was just about to post this query. :-)
> >
> >In addition, how do you like the 2D image quality? Any
> >problems with WINOS2?
> >
> >I'm considering the Asus V3800 Ultra and also a Matrox G400.
> >The TNT2 Ultra is very fast and more price competitive, but
> >has gotten slammed on its 2D image quality.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Peter Stein
> >nbi@xnet.com
no problems? how did you do that? I'm stuck at 60 Hz.

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From: jim.backus@gecm.com                               22-Oct-99 10:02:06
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:21
Subj: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem

From: Jim Backus <jim.backus@gecm.com>

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IIRC there was a problem with the new CHKDSK that was introduced in Warp
FP5 that could affect SCSI HDs if they were set up in a particular way. 
SCSI HDs can be set up with or without an equivalent of LBA.  I believe
that if the SCSI HD has been set up not to use "LBA" CHKDSK32 has
problems. 

Can anyone confirm that this is the case?

Has this bug been fixed in more recent FPs?

My PCs are normally left running and there was a power cut yesterday -
my repair actions have left me feeling rather vulnerable.  When I
originally built the PC, I chose the non "LBA" option which I assume
applies to all the SCSI disks.  The PC has 2 SCSI HDs with C:, D: E: &
F: on the first disk (2GB) and G:, H: & I: on the second (4.3GB). 
Partitions C & D are FAT and are irrelevant to the remainder of this
posting.  Warp 4 FP6 is installed on E: and Warp 4 base was on G: as a
maintenance partition.  

Firstly I rebooted to G: which caused "old" CHKDSK to run and clean E:
and F: - I then ran CHKDSK a couple more times to ensure that there were
no problems but kept getting errors.  It was then that I decided to
apply FP6 to G:.  Whilst re-running CHKDSK in the hope of clearing
apparent file system problems the system hung but did respond to a
Ctrl-Alt-Del.  I now have a system with a unusable version of CHKDSK,
but have managed to "repair" the machine using the utility disks plus
the files necessary to run "old" CHKDSK.  Incidentally "old" CHKDSK
seems incapable of working on the partitions on the 4.3GB drive - could
this be a remnant of the large HD problem?

FWIW the files needed to run old CHKDSK are:

CHKDSK.COM
VIOCALLS.DLL
NLS.DLL
IFSHPFS.DLL
(these from memory and may not be the exact filenames)

Ultimately it is my intention to rebuild this PC with the "LBA" option
but until then I'd like the security of being able to run CHKDSK.

Can anyone give any helpful advice or comments?
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From: ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com                          21-Oct-99 13:44:29
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:21
Subj: Re: Stupid LAN Question

From: Ben Hamilton <ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com>

Doug Bissett wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:47:07, Ben Hamilton <ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Get Warp 4!  It rocks!
> 
> I agree with this...
> 
> And works well with Win95/98.  :-)
> 
> This statement, may be a little misleading. Win9x will coexist with
> OS/2 (3 and 4), in a different partition.

Absolutely!  I have Win98 and OS/2 Warp 4 on one of my boxes...

> On the other hand, OS/2 will NOT run native Win9x programs (it will
> run *most* Win31programs).

http://www.os2ss.com/win32-os2/

> There are also some problems with FAT32 partitions (especially, if you
> have multiple primary C: drives, where one, or more, are FAT32). There
> are also possible conflicts with Win9x utility programs, that don't
> always get along with some of the OS/2 stuff. On the bright side, OS/2
> doesn't, normally, bother the Win9x system.

I don't run *any* Windows software on OS/2, just native OS/2 and DOS programs
on
FAT and HPFS partitions.  My two copies of Win98 seem to get along fine
sharing
the drives and the inkjet printer on the OS/2 box.

-- Ben Hamilton
-- ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com
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From: clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk                        22-Oct-99 13:05:13
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 10:21:22
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: "Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk>

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:56:02 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

:>Unless I'm quite deluded, serial mice have historically been 
:>more common than PS/2 mice.  Maybe that's changed (has it?),


I noticed the move the PS/2 mice coincided with the Internet Boom and thus
(for 99% of users) modems...

Also, has IBM's hold over the PS/2 spec timed out or something...


,c.



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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             22-Oct-99 13:23:05
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:26
Subj: Re: OS/2 Hardware Reviews

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:38:32, isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog) 
wrote:

-)With so many people asking questions about hardware recently (me
-)included!), I just realized that there is no hardware review site for OS/2
-)users!
-)
-)Obviously, the big sites don't cover OS/2, just WinXX. (And even then,
-)they seem gamer oriented).
-)
-)Would it be easiest to setup a section in OS/2 E-Zine or the VOICE
-)newsletter for just such a purpose?
-)I can't do a site myself (nor other OS/2 users I assume) cause we're not
-)rich and we don't come across that much hardware! I doubt the major
-)vendors would be willing to lend us the goods without having made a name
-)for ourselves.
-)
-)I'm willing to start the ball rolling. OS/2 e-zine still seems to be doing
-)renovation, so I'll submit a piece to VOICE about the AceCad tablet I
-)acquired a while back....
-)
-)
-)
-)Isaac

Two things.  I am the editor of the VOICE Newsletter and I love to 
have hardware reviews, unfortunately, few people write them.   Send 
your review to editor@os2voice.org and I will see that it gets 
published in the newsletter.  I try to write a hardware review 
whenever possible, but I'm just one person and can only buy so much 
new stuff.  ;-)

The second item is that VOICE and SCOUG are now heavily involved in 
the WarpDoctor project.  A revival of the old Warp Pharmacy site.   It
should serve as a repository for OS/2 hardware, software and operating
system help.  It is still in the design phase, but once it is 
implemented we will need content.  Anyone interested in helping with 
this massive undertaking can join the Warpdoctor mailing list - 
http://mailer.falcon-net.net:8080/guest/RemoteAvailableLists?prefix=W 
and also frequent VOICE and SCOUG IRC meetings on the subject.    
There is a brief web page at http://www.warpdoctor.os2voice.org/  but 
we are all too busy at the moment for much content there.  Anyone that
can help us here would be appreciated.

Mark

//---------------------------------------------------------
// From the Desk of: Mark Dodel 
//                   editor, VOICE Newsletter
//                   editor@os2voice.org
//    http://www.os2voice.org
//
//  Your Computer, Your Choice, For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
//             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
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From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu                          22-Oct-99 13:22:15
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 12:35:26
Subj: Re: Problem installing mpts

From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen)

Sometimes Warp Connect and Warp 4 installs hang if you try to install the 
complete product all at once.

Try installing in stages. Once the base OS has been installed and runs, then 
you have two choices:

1) From the root directory of the CD, run INSTALL. This starts just the 
networking portion of the installation script. Usually this will work fine.

Or, 2) From the root directory of the CD, run PRODINST, which will allow 
you to install each networking component as though it were a separate 
3rd-party product. If tcpip, then mpts, (then peer services or whatever, if 
need them) are each installed separately, if an installation fails you 
will at least know which product is causing the problem and diagnosis will 
become a little easier.

--Kevin 


On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:40:56 +0200, Cecilio Mendez <cecilio@cesser.com> wrote:
>Sorry by my English is very bad .
>When I install os2 warp 3 and i select lan support and tcpip the system
>hangs with a white screen. When i install only os2 warp 3 without lan
>support the installation goes well.
>Thanks
>
>
>

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From: dmckenn@ibm.net                                   22-Oct-99 19:57:00
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: Re: Scrolling with serial mice...

From: "David McKenna" <dmckenn@ibm.net>

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:40:30 GMT, Alex Taylor wrote:

>For me, and I'm pretty certain for most "Joe/Jane User"s, IRQs are _far_
>more valuable than serial ports.  In my experience, most people use 1
>serial port for a modem (if they don't have internal), leaving another
>available for a mouse.  Most desktops have 2 serial ports, expandable to 4.
>

  Alex,

  I agree IRQ's are more valuable than serial ports. That is why I always
disable them in the computers' BIOS (unless they are being used). This frees
those IRQ's (3 and 4) for other uses. It has been at least 4 years since I
have seen a BIOS that does not allow disabling the COM ports (I admit I
haven't seen them all :-).

   Why not use the PS/2 mouse, and disable one of the COM ports for the IRQ?

Dave McKenna


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From: ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com                          21-Oct-99 13:41:02
  To: All                                               22-Oct-99 21:23:08
Subj: Re: Looking for Drivers for 3Com 3C574 PCMCIA NIC

From: Ben Hamilton <ben.hamilton@fmr2001.com>

Marcelo Rodrigues wrote:

> I just got this 100/10 Mbit card and I am looking for drivers.
> I looked at the 3Com site but they have very little drivers for
> OS/2 and I didn't  see any mention of drivers for this card.

The only PCMCIA NICs that OS/2 supports should be here:

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/pcmciala/3comcorp/index.htm

Good luck,

-- Ben Hamilton
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