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From: void@nospam.demon.nl                              25-Sep-99 02:10:10
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 03:57:26
Subj: Re: Netlabs statement about the future of OS/2

From: huug <void@nospam.demon.nl>

>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Stan <rsstan@ibm.net> writes:

 Bob> I wish there would be a new client, but I think it unlikely.

Frankly, I don't care as long they do have an avordable upgrade planned,
with the backward compatibility I've come to expect from IBM.  Warp
Client 5, Warp Servlet For e-Business, Warped Linux/BSD/Hurd: as long as
it fits the specs, it's fine with me.

In the mean time, they could issue a Client 4.1 media refresh, so people
could install 4.0 with fresh fixpacks, java updates, etc. in one go.

-- 
Note: I reserve the right to publish or return unsolicited, harassing or 
annoying (e-)mail.  /hy:x/                               PGP keyID: 0xDF28F4C1
"All are strange but thee and me; but sometimes thee acts funny."- Chuck Blake

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From: altman@sfu.ca                                     26-Sep-99 07:18:10
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 10:15:04
Subj: y2k testing apps for OS2?

From: altman@sfu.ca (Tymoteusz Altman)

Hi,

I have a pretty old (4/5 years) Pentium90 computer, and I want to see if
it's Y2K complient. Are there any apps for os2 that test this, as well
as test to see if the os is complient?

thanks for any help,

tym

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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  26-Sep-99 08:28:18
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 10:15:04
Subj: Re: ProNews bugs?

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 03:33:36, Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca 
(Michel A Goyette) wrote:

> Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:53:42, alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) a 
> crit:
> 
> > Can others confirm this one...?
> > 
> > I've just noticed that a posting made with ProNews which contains a
> > period '.' on a line by itself will get truncated at that point by
> > the news server.  I assume this means that ProNews doesn't 
> > character-stuff periods... which is a pretty serious bug - especially
> > since it's an important requirement in the NNTP spec (RFC 977).
> 
> 	I don't know but I'll put a single point just before my signature.  
> If it doesn't appear, you'll know.  ;-)
>  
> > Also, in ProNews I never see messages that were posted by myself,
> > unless I refresh the newsgroup _immediately_ after posting (at least,
> > within about half an hour).  They're still available on my news server,
> > though, and I can see them in other newsreaders...  ProNews just seems
> > to refuse to download them.  Is there a setting that controls this 
> > somewhere?  I like to be able to see my own messages showing up...
> 
> 	I can see my posting when I do a refresh and ProNews/2 downloads it 
> without problem.  I haven't found a settings option for it yet.
> 
> The point follows on the next line.

WOW!! After all this time, an undocumented feature. 

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    25-Sep-99 18:21:15
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 10:15:04
Subj: Re: NS 4.04 vs. 4.61

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <7sbqmq$cge$2@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>,
jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote:
>	On a performance basis, is 4.61 slower than 4.04?  The same?  Quicker?

Yes.  ;-)


-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de                 26-Sep-99 09:52:06
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 10:15:04
Subj: Re: Awget and Netscape 4.61

From: Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Berke)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 04:12:45, softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com 
(Paul Saletan) wrote:

Hi Paul,

> How do I make the new Communicator 4.61 work with AWGET the way it
> should?
If you're not using the recently published GA Version, Netscape won't 
behave like Navigator 2.02, because the programmers forgot (or were 
too lazy?) to implement full d'n'd support.

> However, with Communicator 4.61, dragging a URL creates a different
> kind of object, one without a directory listing.  The object seems to
The programmer of AUTOWGET is aware of that problem and has 
implemented a workaround for it: AWEGET is able to check the WPS for 
URL objects and automatically starts downloading what you see in the 
parameter field. So simply drag your URLs to the WPS instead of the 
To-do folder and drop them there. It could be better, but it still 
works perfectly well.
BTW: you must tell AWEGET to do so if you haven't already done during 
installation: look for a file named aweget.cfg (usually to be found in
\mptn\etc) and make sure there is:
use_desktop = 1

Regards,
FRANK

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           26-Sep-99 07:21:23
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 10:15:04
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <37ED0DFB.B9E5B16A@netscapeonline.co.uk>, on 09/25/99 at 07:01 PM,
   Jonphillips <jonphillips@netscapeonline.co.uk> said:

> I would like to say that, yes there is information on the US site about
> and OS/2 client, available only as part of the full suite!, but there is
> no information at all on the UK site (where I live).
> I did e-mail Symantec, who said that I would quilify for an upgrade if I
> provided them with certain information. Since then I mailed the info I
> thought they'd want but heard NOTHING at all back from them.
> Now I can't find I link to contact the UK sysmantec only telephone
> numbers, which is useless when I'm at work all day.

> Can anyone tell me if  they have been able to get the NAV for OS/2 in
> the UK?? I understand it is suppost to be on the same packs as what you
> can buy from the stores (so far these don't include it), and I'm annoyed
> to think I may have to pay full price!

You will have to pay far more than you think if you cannot get a free
upgrade from IBMAV. You have to buy a CD with server and clients for
several OS's, not just OS/2.

Here in the US, the best price is $207 or around 130 Pounds Sterling. In
addition you must buy user licenses at $39 or about 25 Pounds with a
minimum purchase of 10 licenses.

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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 9
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               26-Sep-99 09:25:24
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: Unable to install Java v1.1.8 runtime with Communicator 4.61

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

John Thompson wrote:

> I just downloaded the Communicator v4.61 GA and Java 1.1.8
> runtime packages.  Communicator installed fine but I have been
> unable to install Java 1.1.8.  After extracting the package with
> the "/di /ov" option as directed

One possibility:

I believe the parameter requirement is -di -ov.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"

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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                26-Sep-99 16:52:16
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: Unable to install Java v1.1.8 runtime with Communicator 4.61

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <c1.2c.2SKYT5$1Ru@rhino_house.ibm.net>, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid     
(John Thompson) writes:
>I just downloaded the Communicator v4.61 GA and Java 1.1.8 
>runtime packages.  Communicator installed fine but I have been 
>unable to install Java 1.1.8.  After extracting the package with 
>the "/di /ov" option as directed and running "INSTALL" I get 
>Comunicator v4.61 with the Feature Install screen to select a 
>language.  I select "English" and the machine cogitates for a 
>while and then spits out the error:
>
>        Unable to locate or create Feature Installer object. 
>        Make sure the RESPONSE file for this feature is located
>        in the current working directory.

   I had this error, as the correct file was deleted after the
install, so I just unpacked "firunpkg.zip" again.  Maybe you 
will have to also run "fisetup.exe".



baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: chdove@home.com                                   26-Sep-99 17:03:24
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 - Strong encryption

From: chdove@home.com (Clive Dove)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 07:09:05, Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> wrote:

> piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) writes:
> 
> > On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 01:52:54, chdove@home.com (Clive Dove) wrote:
> > 
> > : How do I get 128 bit 
> > :encryption?  I am a Canadian, using a Canadian ISP, so a download to 
> > :me is legal.
> > 
> >  The file name of Netscape 4.61 - Strong encryption is comm46xr.exe. Is
that 
> > not what you downloaded?
> > 
> >  You could try http://www.fortify.net also.
> 
> But there is no patch for 4.61, at least not yet. So could one of you
> arms dealers please upload just the .exe to ftp.replay.com with a
> distinctive name and a description? Someone has kindly put the whole
> 10MB package there, but I'd prefer just the 4MB executable.
> 
> -- 
> Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi
> 

The 128 bit encryption is now working.  

I downloaded it again using the other protocol and re-installed.

Trouble is, I forgot whether the error was on the one downloaded with 
FTP or the one downloaded with HTTP.

Perhaps  both are the same by now, but if anyone has the same problem,
the answer is to download again using the protocol other than the one 
you first used.




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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           26-Sep-99 17:04:23
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: Awget and Netscape 4.61

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 09:52:12, Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank
Berke) wrote:

> BTW: you must tell AWEGET to do so if you haven't already done during 
> installation: look for a file named aweget.cfg (usually to be found in
> \mptn\etc) and make sure there is:
> use_desktop = 1
>  
> Regards,
> FRANK
>  

There is an object in the ToDo-> Info folder for the AWGET.CFG file...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           26-Sep-99 17:04:24
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: NS 4.04 vs. 4.61

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:31:07, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) 
wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:02:34, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John 
> Hong) wrote:
> 
> > 	On a performance basis, is 4.61 slower than 4.04?  The same?  Quicker?
> > 
> > 
> 
> Haven't tried it, yet, on my old 486 DX2-50, but it is definetely 
> FASTER on my P200.

Sorry to respond to my own post, but:

I tried NC461 on my old DX2-50. Yes, it is FASTER, once it gets 
loaded. It does take a while to load, and even longer to shut down, 
but it IS faster in the middle, when I am actually using it.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: hannwei@computer.org                              26-Sep-99 17:14:19
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Communicator 4.61 - Offline

From: hannwei@computer.org (Hann Wei Toh)

Hi,

I wonder if anyone else has encountered the same problem.
I found that Netscape 4.61 occasionally go offline
automatically.  When this happens, I get a dialog box
asking me to set it back to online when I click a link.
Setting it back to online solves the problem.  I believe
I did not touch any other thing when it goes offline.
Is this a bug?  Or is it supposed to behave in this way?

Best wishes.

Hann Wei

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From: robin.hinde@nzpca.org.nz                          26-Sep-99 22:26:00
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: robin.hinde@nzpca.org.nz (ROBIN HINDE)

I've avoided using NS4.04 because I've heard so many bad reports about
it, and stuck with NS2.02 until now.

I haven't heard anything bad about Comm4.61, but I cannot use it on my
system here.

Installation was flawless, it looks good, is fast and stable, but it
will not display the search text entry box on any search site (I see
only a horizontal line where the box should be).

It displays some tables* incorrectly, making them far too wide.
These tables display correctly in every other browser I have used.

It also won't display the Curious Eye DHTML tutorial correctly.

System is Warp Connect, at FP39. Matrox Mystique 220.

Any suggestions as to where I should be looking to resolve the problem
appreciated. Comm4.61 in Win95 behaves OK on this same system.


*  http://z.extreme-dm.com/tracking/nph-summarys.cgi?tag=nzpca


cheers


  -=rjh=-
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From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net                         26-Sep-99 17:25:08
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: GA for download?: Netscape - Version 4.61 [en] - 990915

From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net

In <37EE2E75.4A3901C2@dpsolutions.com>, Jerry Tabeling
<jtabeling@dpsolutions.com> writes:
>comm46xr.exe is gone. Anyone know where I can find it?

It's not gone but it is invisible via FTP.  Use the web page to begin 
the download.  You'll see it download from 
username:password@somewhere/file

Use your FTP client to connect to somewhere.  Login as username using 
password.  Switch to binary mode and get file - note, the file and the 
directory it's in will not be visible from an FTP client but is there.

 
J. Pedone
jpedone@flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
 
OS/2: Bill Gates' worst nightmare!
Any given program will expand to fill available memory.

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From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi...               26-Sep-99 17:29:27
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: ProNews bugs?

Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca

From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:28:36, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) a crit:

> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 03:33:36, Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca 
> (Michel A Goyette) wrote:

> > The point follows on the next line.
> 
> WOW!! After all this time, an undocumented feature. 

	Well, well, well.  Stay away from the lonely dot.  ;-)

Salut,

	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
	ICQ #13376913
	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     26-Sep-99 17:20:02
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: Make your own throbber

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Mikus Grinbergs wrote:

> [By the way, the window to select the various components of
>  Communicator seems to be "floating" on top of Netscape's own
>  window.  If the throbber were to "float", it would not have
>  to shrink to fit *inside* thin NS461 toolbars.]

That's a separate window that is used for all active
Netscape windows.  The throbber is part of each
individual window, and applies to each individually.

> Where do I find information on how to specify that Netscape
> use 40x40 ones, or whatever?  On other threads, you've told
> people to go look at developer.netscape.com.  I did, and
> could find nothing about 40x40.

Look around these newsgroups for the threads on
specifying your own throbber.  You can set one up
to be whatever size you like.

> Besides, the NS461 product comes from IBM Corporation.  How
> do I know how much of what Netscape says is applicable to it?

Everything that Netscape says is applicable to it,
except what we've specified on the Netscape 4.61
for OS/2 information pages you can reach from the
Help menu.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de                 26-Sep-99 10:48:29
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: y2k testing apps for OS2?

From: Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Berke)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 07:18:20, altman@sfu.ca (Tymoteusz Altman) wrote:

> I have a pretty old (4/5 years) Pentium90 computer, and I want to see if
> it's Y2K complient. Are there any apps for os2 that test this, as well
> as test to see if the os is complient?

If you have a fixpak installed of which IBM says it ist Y2K compliant,
you should not worry about your software anymore, except you are 
running some older DOS or Windows applications. Concerning your 
hardware your should check the websites of the component's 
manufacturers, what I suggest is installing the latest BIOS on your 
motherboard, SCSI Adaptor and Graphics card (if needed/available).
After this you can do the following:
1. in an OS/2 Window set your date to December 31 1999 and the system 
time to 12:50 p.m.
2. turn off your computer and wait at least half an hour (I suggest 
going to work/university/school or whatsoever ;-)
3. turn on your computer and find out if your system time has 
forwarded correctly (when you've waited 30 minutes it shoul be January
1st 2000, 20 minutes after midnight and expect to see some error 
messages. If so, try to determine which component of your hardware ist
resonsible and change ist asap. If there are no errors for the first 
time, work with your computer for a while an try to find out which 
application might be affected by the new date and look for an 
equivalent one.

That's it. You don't have to spend a single pence for a stupid program
like those Windows-Weenies do (ok, I must admit that *they* could 
check their hard- and software the same way ;-).

For any further questions feel free to contact me via email.

Regards,
FRANK


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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           26-Sep-99 10:51:14
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a new
release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.

Ian

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From: Mail@Here                                         25-Sep-99 19:45:04
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Netscape 4.04/4.61 Messenger Fonts

From: "Steve Blunk" <Mail@Here>

I downloaded 4.61 and I've slightly tested it.  I still have one problem in
4.61 that I also 
had in 4.04.

When I compose a message (HTML), there's a drop down box to select the font I
want.  
The fonts included in the list I can select from have an oddity, though.  If
the font 
includes separate files for various styles, then the only selection will be
one of the styled 
fonts.  For example:  Tahoma Bold (a TrueType font) is a selection; Tahoma
isn't.  Zapf 
Calligraphic 801 Bold Italic (a Postscript font) is a selection; Zapf
Calligraphic 801 isn't.

Does anyone know how to fix this?


___
srb


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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    26-Sep-99 06:39:10
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Re: Ibm.net announce was

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <CdjH3.1620$B51.23779@ha1>, jsjones@selectric.net wrote:
>This is exactly my point as to the confusing nature of the email and the
FAQs.
>
>You're correct. AT&T Global Network, whose domain name will be attglobal.net
is
>a continuation of the existing IBM.net service and will use the IGN dialers,
including
>the one for OS/2.
>
>But, AT&T WorldNet, whose domain name appears to be att.net, does *not*
support
>OS/2 or offer dialer software. The IGN dialer will *not* work with this
"comsumer"
>ISP.
>
>But, which one has MY account been assigned to? Or, YOURS?

<SNIP>

Yes, I agree it's confusing. But this is AT&T we are dealing with ...
what did you expect? <g>

If you received the notice from consumercom@ibm.net, then you probably
are registered as a Consumer user, and "will be given the opportunity
to transition" to the AT&T Worldnet service "early in 2000".

For the time being, it seems that all IBM.NET customers will continue
to use the service the same as they always have. the domain name part
of your e-mail address will switch to attglobal.net. Your ibm.net
address will work, for receiving mail, until October 1, 2000. If you
use the IGN Dialer, and have left it set to automatically upgrade
itself, then, after Oct 1, 1999, all of your outgoing e-mail will have
the Reply To: field changed to <userid>@attglobal.net.

From the FAQ at AT&T Worldnet:

======================================================================

I do not wish to transition to AT&T WorldNet Service. What are my
options?

As our valued customer, AT&T wants to ensure we continue to meet your
needs. You do not need to take any action at this time to remain with
the kind of excellent service you have been receiving from IBM Internet
Connection Services.

For consumer customers, there will be further information on the
general transition to AT&T WorldNet Service early in 2000. However, as
of October 1, 2000, your IBM Internet Connection Services e-mail ID will
no longer be available and you will need to elect to stay with AT&T
Business Internet Services or transition to AT&T WorldNet Service in
order to continue to access the Internet.

======================================================================

Most of the information is in the various FAQs. However, even that can
be confusing, as there are several of them, in several locations.

The main announcement is at:
http://www.ibm.net/whatsnew/attbusiness_english.html

The FAQ on Transitioning to AT&T WorldNet is at:
http://care.worldnet.att.net/transition.html

The FAQ from ibm.net on the changes is at:
http://www.ibm.net/whatsnew/att_changes_faq_english.html

The Pricing Plan for the Business Internet Services is at:
http://www.ibm.net/whatsnew/att_planinfo.html

NOTE: This looks like the standard IBM Pricing Plan ... The "Base
Service" is similar to what I pay, now, for a minimum connect and
e-mail address. I only connect to ibm.net when I'm out of town. The
pricing plans for the Worldnet service are  more expensive for the
minimum usage (and more hours minimum).

Another quote from the FAQ at AT&T:

======================================================================

If you decide to sign up for AT&T WorldNet Service during the
transition in 2000, you will receive an AT&T WorldNet Service e-mail
address with an AT&T WorldNet Service domain name. You also will be reminded
to cancel your account with AT&T Business Internet Services
(formerly IBM Internet Connection Services) to avoid paying for
service from both AT&T WorldNet Service and AT&T Business Internet
Services.

======================================================================

It would appear that we all have more than 7 (now 6) days to decide.

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From: jsjones@selectric.net                             26-Sep-99 12:28:10
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Re: Ibm.net announce was

From: jsjones@selectric.net

Indeed. Where's James Coburn when we need him??

In <pXg73kDg6dna090yn@ibm.net>, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) writes:

>Yes, I agree it's confusing. But this is AT&T we are dealing with ...
>what did you expect? <g>

selectric.net? think international business machines, instead.

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From: mikus@bga.com                                     26-Sep-99 04:50:07
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Re: Make your own throbber

From: mikus@bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs)

In article <37EBD147.E8CFEC1@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>,
"Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>
> > But on my display, the Netscape 4.xx throbber is a smidgin
> > larger than 1/8" square.  That really truly makes it hard to
> > see it "throbbing".  (And no, I am *not* willing to have my
> > toolbar take up more vertical space just to grow the throbber.)
>
> And how would you expect the throbber to be any bigger
> without taking up any more space?

Please notice that in my article I said that the throbber shown
in NS202 is FOUR TIMES THE AREA of the throbber shown in NS461.

NS202 did it by leaving a somewhat "fatter" location toolbar
even when "text only" was specified.  NS461 requires specifying
"text plus image" to avoid the tiny-size throbber.

[By the way, the window to select the various components of
 Communicator seems to be "floating" on top of Netscape's own
 window.  If the throbber were to "float", it would not have
 to shrink to fit *inside* thin NS461 toolbars.]

>
> I've made a couple of 40x40 ones, and they seem plenty
> big enough to me.

Where do I find information on how to specify that Netscape
use 40x40 ones, or whatever?  On other threads, you've told
people to go look at developer.netscape.com.  I did, and
could find nothing about 40x40.

Besides, the NS461 product comes from IBM Corporation.  How
do I know how much of what Netscape says is applicable to it?

mikus

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From: jtabeling@dpsolutions.com                         26-Sep-99 10:32:11
  To: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Re: GA for download?: Netscape - Version 4.61 [en] - 990915

To: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>
From: Jerry Tabeling <jtabeling@dpsolutions.com>

comm46xr.exe is gone. Anyone know where I can find it?

Tim Martin wrote:

> Jules Greenstein wrote:
>
> > :>> >On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:52:02, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy
Donnelly)
> > :>> >wrote:
> > :>> >
> > :>> >> This has a September 17 file date, although the Software Links
shows it
> > :>> >> dated today:
> > :>> >>
> > :>> >>  ftp://peak1.boulder.ibm.com/software/asd/ns40/en_us/comm461.exe
> >
> >       Thanks for finding this ftp site.  Can you tell me if this is the
128
> > bit or the 58 bit version?  I am having trouble downloading it from
Software
> > Choice.
>
> The 128 bit version is named: comm46xr.exe

--
Jerry Tabeling
Data Processing Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------
http://www.dpsolutions.com
mailto:jtabeling@dpsolutions.com
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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      26-Sep-99 14:41:22
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Unable to install Java v1.1.8 runtime with Communicator 4.61

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

I just downloaded the Communicator v4.61 GA and Java 1.1.8 
runtime packages.  Communicator installed fine but I have been 
unable to install Java 1.1.8.  After extracting the package with 
the "/di /ov" option as directed and running "INSTALL" I get 
Comunicator v4.61 with the Feature Install screen to select a 
language.  I select "English" and the machine cogitates for a 
while and then spits out the error:

        Unable to locate or create Feature Installer object. 
        Make sure the RESPONSE file for this feature is located
        in the current working directory.

I assume this is referring to the JAVA118.RSP file, which does in
fact exist in the /en subdirectory (as well as in all the other 
language option subdirectories).  If I copy JAVA118.RSP into the 
directory containing INSTALL.EXE, it dies even earlier with:

        Incorrect file extraction.  To proceed, run the RESETDIR 
        command in the current working directory and re-extract
        the files using  the /di and /ov options.

So, what gives?  What am I doing wrong?  

Running Warp Connect FP38.  Java v1.1.7 is installed and working 
fine.

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net                         26-Sep-99 15:09:18
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Re: y2k testing apps for OS2?

From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net

In <t43DxYlTJQnG-pn2-yrXYrSQ4y2Sf@localhost>,
Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Berke) writes:
>On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 07:18:20, altman@sfu.ca (Tymoteusz Altman) wrote:
>
>> I have a pretty old (4/5 years) Pentium90 computer, and I want to see if
>> it's Y2K complient. Are there any apps for os2 that test this, as well
>> as test to see if the os is complient?
>

>
>That's it. You don't have to spend a single pence for a stupid program
>like those Windows-Weenies do (ok, I must admit that *they* could 
>check their hard- and software the same way ;-).
>

Excellent advice but don't forget about the other issues as well:
The 2039 roll-over
Feb 29, 2000 leap year
Any user made databases/spread sheets with 2 digit years.

 
J. Pedone
jpedone@flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
 
Pick two: 1)Fast 2)Right 3)Cheap 4)Windows (counts as 2)
Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

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From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net                         26-Sep-99 15:09:18
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 prefs.js problem

From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net

In <37EDB757.23CE0BBA@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>, "Jeffrey S. Kobal"
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> writes:
>
>jpedone_no_spam@flash.net wrote:


>Preferences that are specified as config() are "locked" by
>default, meaning that they are not intended to be changed
>by the user, and are not saved in the prefs.js file.  There's
>a lot of detailed information about these preferences on
>http://developer.netscape.com
>

  Okay - went there did that.  It appears that these options can be 
specified in x:\netscape\program\config.jsc.  It also appears that
this file is called from x:\netscape\program\netscape.cfg.  Is that 
correct ?
  If I'm reading the stuff in the docs right, netscape.cfg is obscured 
by a hash table.  I can edit it with a rather expensive editor from
netscape or use the rexx translate() function if I know what translates 
to what.  If this is correct, I'll do the rexx code is someone can point
 me to the translation table.
  So I guess my next Q is: is it possible to find a netscape.cfg that is
set up to point to config.jsc or the translation table used for 
netscape.cfg?
 
J. Pedone
jpedone@flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
 
Program call to load Windows- "Here_piggy_piggy_piggy"
Cars suck.

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From: as@sci.fi                                         26-Sep-99 09:56:09
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Re: Awget and Netscape 4.61

From: Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi>

softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com (Paul Saletan) writes:

> How do I make the new Communicator 4.61 work with AWGET the way it
> should?

I don't know, but it seems to work for me. Now downloading Lame from
Hobbes incoming. I would guess there's maybe something wrong with your
URL objects.

-- 
Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi

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From: as@sci.fi                                         26-Sep-99 10:09:02
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 - Strong encryption

From: Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi>

piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.) writes:

> On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 01:52:54, chdove@home.com (Clive Dove) wrote:
> 
> : How do I get 128 bit 
> :encryption?  I am a Canadian, using a Canadian ISP, so a download to 
> :me is legal.
> 
>  The file name of Netscape 4.61 - Strong encryption is comm46xr.exe. Is that 

> not what you downloaded?
> 
>  You could try http://www.fortify.net also.

But there is no patch for 4.61, at least not yet. So could one of you
arms dealers please upload just the .exe to ftp.replay.com with a
distinctive name and a description? Someone has kindly put the whole
10MB package there, but I'd prefer just the 4MB executable.

-- 
Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi

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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  26-Sep-99 18:07:00
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 10:26:00, robin.hinde@nzpca.org.nz (ROBIN HINDE) wrote:

> I've avoided using NS4.04 because I've heard so many bad reports about
> it, and stuck with NS2.02 until now.
> 
> I haven't heard anything bad about Comm4.61, but I cannot use it on my
> system here.
> 
> Installation was flawless, it looks good, is fast and stable, but it
> will not display the search text entry box on any search site (I see
> only a horizontal line where the box should be).
> 
> It displays some tables* incorrectly, making them far too wide.
> These tables display correctly in every other browser I have used.
> 
> It also won't display the Curious Eye DHTML tutorial correctly.
> 
> System is Warp Connect, at FP39. Matrox Mystique 220.
> 
> Any suggestions as to where I should be looking to resolve the problem
> appreciated. Comm4.61 in Win95 behaves OK on this same system.

It's fascinating that all of the complaints about Comm4.6.1 (that I have 
noticed, anyway) are all about systems with Matrox display hardware. One 
wonders about the drivers.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: mtve@hal-pc.org                                   26-Sep-99 12:29:10
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: Unable to install Java v1.1.8 runtime with Communicator 4.61

From: Marvin Volz <mtve@hal-pc.org>

You did use the -di -ov options? Although I forgot and didn't use any
parameters and it all loaded & works just fine anyway.  Runtime pkg
first, then the developer kit if you want, with the latest FI v1.2.5,
after deleting earlier version.

MTV



John Thompson wrote:

> I just downloaded the Communicator v4.61 GA and Java 1.1.8
> runtime packages.  Communicator installed fine but I have been
> unable to install Java 1.1.8.  After extracting the package with
> the "/di /ov" option as directed and running "INSTALL" I get
> Comunicator v4.61 with the Feature Install screen to select a
> language.

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From: kentuckybob@att.net                               26-Sep-99 15:05:28
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: Ibm.net announce was

From: kentuckybob@att.net

After a recent move from the 3% of the country not served by any of the
larger ISP's, I recently signed up with Worldnet.  It's a fairly easy set
up with Injoy, AFTER I found the log in name and password on my hard
drive.  Worldnet requires a username of a nine digit number followed by
"@worldnet.att.net" to authenticate.  The remainder is very easy.

Bob



In <JHX73kDg6t9X090yn@ibm.net>, on 09/25/99 
   at 08:07 PM, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) said:

>>    2. Worldnet does not support the IBM.net dialer and (as I recall from
news
>>       group messages past) is difficult or impossible to use with DOIP.
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------

Robert A. Underwood - kentuckybob@att.net
OS/2 Warp 3.0 (Fixpack 39): MR2/ICE 1.60 (Registered)

-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: Winfried.T@inter.nl.netX                          26-Sep-99 18:56:26
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: PSION 5 and OS/2 synch

From: Winfried.T@inter.nl.netX (Winfried Tilanus)

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:54:32, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 
(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:

> something makes me think
> it's a fellow in Belgium, and he'd made some good progress.

It is a Dutch guy, from the city of Groningen, but that is all I 
remember. (Don't name a Dutch guy Belgic, it is a sin)

Winfried

* To reply by e-mail: remove X
* http://web.inter.NL.net/users/Winfried/
* PGP Key fingerprint = DF2297517A9E84A1 9FACB6 3C8918D451

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              26-Sep-99 12:56:04
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: Two e-mail addresses?

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <unvznaaqzertvasvarg.fikyi61.pminews@news.dmreg.infi.net>, "Terry
Haimann" <thaimann@dmreg.infi.net> wrote:
>I realize netscape is free, but for e-mail and newsgroups I suggest you pay a
>little money and pm-mail(handles multiple accounts) and pminews for
>newsgroups.
>
>On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:13:14 -0400, Alan Beagley wrote:
>
>>Is there a way, using NS 4.61, to have two different e-mail addresses
>>selected automatically: a "spam-resistant" one that is used when posting
>>to Newsgroups, and a "transparent" one that is used for person-t-person
>>e-mail?

Only problem is that PMMail and PMINews are completely unsupported, since
Southsoft appears to have gone out of business, or at least discontinued tech
support.  Netscape is at least minimally supported (bugs are being fixed,
while none of the Southsoft bugs are), and multiple user identities are
supported.

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              26-Sep-99 13:02:04
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <7sktrg$ehl$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a new
>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.

Forget it, they seem to be out of business.

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From: nospam_evr@spam.net                               26-Sep-99 15:21:24
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: Back Again/2 v3.00 + Warp 4

From: "/2 User" <nospam_evr@spam.net>

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:58:37 -0400 (EDT), andrew g wrote:

>Does Back Again/2 Personal Edition v3.00 work with Warp 4?
>

Yes it does work on my machine with an LS-120.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls"
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From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com                           26-Sep-99 19:40:21
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 10:26:00, robin.hinde@nzpca.org.nz (ROBIN HINDE) 
wrote:

> I've avoided using NS4.04 because I've heard so many bad reports about
> it, and stuck with NS2.02 until now.
> 
> I haven't heard anything bad about Comm4.61, but I cannot use it on my
> system here.
> 
> Installation was flawless, it looks good, is fast and stable, but it
> will not display the search text entry box on any search site (I see
> only a horizontal line where the box should be).
> 
> It displays some tables* incorrectly, making them far too wide.
> These tables display correctly in every other browser I have used.
> 
> It also won't display the Curious Eye DHTML tutorial correctly.
> 
> System is Warp Connect, at FP39. Matrox Mystique 220.
> 
> Any suggestions as to where I should be looking to resolve the problem
> appreciated. Comm4.61 in Win95 behaves OK on this same system.
> 
> 
> *  http://z.extreme-dm.com/tracking/nph-summarys.cgi?tag=nzpca
> 
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
>   -=rjh=-
> ---
>  * OLX 2.1 TD * (robin.hinde@nzpca.org.nz      3:771/1680)
> 
Robin,

Try going into edit, preferences, appearances, fonts, and changing 
your font settings.  I think that I read somewhere that 4.61GA 
defaults to the courier new, which is a problematic font.

I use western encoding, 10pt times roman mt 30 for the variable fonts,
and 10 pt courier bold for the fixed width font.  And I've not been 
having any problems with any page displays.  Not using Matrox, 
however, but an Elsa Winner 2000 Office.

BTW, I went to the page shown in your post and it displayed fine.

George

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From: falbof@theref.aquascape.com                       26-Sep-99 19:35:01
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: ProNews bugs?

From: falbof@theref.aquascape.com (F. Robert Falbo)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:28:36, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 03:33:36, Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca 
> (Michel A Goyette) wrote:
> 
> > Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:53:42, alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) a 
> > crit:
> > 
> > > Can others confirm this one...?
> > > 
> > > I've just noticed that a posting made with ProNews which contains a
> > > period '.' on a line by itself will get truncated at that point by
> > > the news server.  I assume this means that ProNews doesn't 
> > > character-stuff periods... which is a pretty serious bug - especially
> > > since it's an important requirement in the NNTP spec (RFC 977).
> > 
> > The point follows on the next line.
> 
> WOW!! After all this time, an undocumented feature. 

Better submit that to Microsoft so they can include it 
as a feature in the next version of Look-Out'2000.

-bob-

__________________________________________________________
F. Robert Falbo  | TheRef(tm) Drive & Controller Guide
OS/2 & BeOS      | http://theref.aquascape.com/theref.html

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                26-Sep-99 15:47:16
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

robin.hinde@nzpca.org.nz (ROBIN HINDE) said:

>Installation was flawless, it looks good, is fast and stable, but it will not
>display the search text entry box on any search site (I see only a horizontal
>line where the box should be).

Might it be the Courier New problem?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: altman@sfu.ca                                     26-Sep-99 19:53:27
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: different user profiles in NC4.61?

From: altman@sfu.ca (Tymoteusz Altman)

Hi,

I just installed Netscape Comm 4.61. When I first opened it, it asked
me to create a user profile. However I can't seem to find the profile
manager to create more profiles for my other accounts. Is there no
way to do this in this version?

thanks for any info,

tym

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     26-Sep-99 19:06:27
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

ROBIN HINDE wrote:

> I haven't heard anything bad about Comm4.61, but I cannot use it on my
> system here.
>
> Installation was flawless, it looks good, is fast and stable, but it
> will not display the search text entry box on any search site (I see
> only a horizontal line where the box should be).
>
> It displays some tables* incorrectly, making them far too wide.
> These tables display correctly in every other browser I have used.

Go to Edit->Preferences, select Fonts, and switch the
Fixed Width font to something other than Courier New.
The problem is that the Courier New font isn't on your
system.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk                        26-Sep-99 21:10:21
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: different user profiles in NC4.61?

From: "Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk>

On 26 Sep 1999 19:53:55 GMT, Tymoteusz Altman wrote:

:>Hi,
:>
:>I just installed Netscape Comm 4.61. When I first opened it, it asked
:>me to create a user profile. However I can't seem to find the profile
:>manager to create more profiles for my other accounts. Is there no
:>way to do this in this version?
:>
:>thanks for any info,
:>
:>tym


There's a User Profile Manager in your Netscape Communicator 4.61
folder...?.. isn't there ?

,c.



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From: nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl                       26-Sep-99 22:32:20
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: Checkini and Java

From: Henk kelder <nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl>

It means that your desktop contains an object (a WPProgram object to be
precise) that should point to a program (or command file) to remove
JAVA. However the WPS does not store actual filenames, but object
handles. (An number internally used by the wps)

The WPS also keeps a list to 'translate' these numbers back to file
names.

In your situation, the number stored at the object was not found in the
translate list, so the WPS will be unable to translate the number back
to a program file.

To solve it, open the properties of the object and specify the correct
executable (if you know it).

Henk

Wm D Loughman wrote:
> 
> Using Henk Kelder's CHECKINI, I find the following in CHECKINI.LOG.  The
> Java warning will NOT go away, no matter what I do.  What is it?  Why is
> it?  Any ideas - beside upgrading, that is  :-) ?
> 
> Adding class TSMasterSetup to list of startup classes.
> =================================================
>  Checking PM_Objects:ClassTable
> =================================================
> =================================================
>  PM_Abstract:Objects & PM_Abstract:FldrContents
> =================================================
>   Object 27F9F <FI_JAVA_UNINSTALL>, Class WPProgram : Remove Java 1.1.6
> for OS/2
>    Exename: PROGRAM NOT FOUND! Curdir: Not specified!
> =================================================
>  Checking PM_Abstract:Icons
> =================================================
> =================================================
>  Checking PMWP_ASSOC_FILTER
> =================================================
>         [  the rest is totally OK  ]
> 
> WD "Bill" Loughman
> Berkeley, California  USA
> wdlkhl@ibm.net

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        26-Sep-99 20:26:00
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Rex Organiser

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

How would I go about getting an OS/2 program to write to a 
Rex Personal Organizer?

The Rex Organizer is a neat lIttle pcmcia gagdet developed by Franklin....
see:-

http://www.franklin.com/rex

and comes with TrueSync from Starfish which can export data from 
Lotus Organizer and Notes among others onto thr Rex card.

I know about DCITU and Pilot Link which give OS/2 users access to other
devices
they may not be able to use otherwise, so I hope something comes along to
support the Rex card...

--
John



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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  26-Sep-99 20:32:03
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: Download Ia.n.i.!!! It's free!

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:45:04, madQ <madq968@djeksta.comNOSPAM> wrote:

> Download Ia.n.i. RemoteControlSystem 1.2 beta. It's free!!!
> New site: http://jump.to/IaniProject

So ... I went to the "new site", and saw only a notice that the account has
been "disconnected" because of abuse, with a plea from the ISV not to 
bother them with questions about the former account holder.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: rjlapham@infinet.com                              26-Sep-99 16:39:10
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Installing Netscape 4.61 on Warp3/FP32

From: rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham)

I've downloaded and am trying to install Netscape Communicator 4.61 GA
(128 bit version) to my Warp3/FP32 system.  When I run Install I get the
following error:

    EPFIE602: An error occurred while attempting to create a directory. 
Ensure you have write access to a drive with adequate space.

The temporary directory where I'm running the install is on an HPFS
partition that has over 700MB free.

Any ideas what the real problem is?

TIA,

    -Jerry
-- 
============================================================
Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: rjlapham@infinet.com
Written Sunday, September 26, 1999 - 04:37 PM (EDT)
============================================================
MR/2 Ice tag:  OJ to Nicole: This'll hurt me more than you.

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From: nospam@nospam.com                                 26-Sep-99 21:32:27
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: JStreetMailer - what'sup?

From: nospam@nospam.com (Bruce LaZerte)

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:31:46, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:

> Now being developed and updated by The JStreet Band
> and currently offering a much improved update called
> PVK10 (Paul vanKeep) release available for free download.
> 

Super! And thanks for taking the time...

----------------------
Bruce LaZerte 	
Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
freshwat at muskoka dot com	

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From: jmprice@calweb.com                                26-Sep-99 14:31:28
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com>

In comp.os.os2.apps article <RGl73gBhD26a092yn@cybernex.net> Alan Boritz
<aboritz@cybernex.net> wrote:
: In article <7sktrg$ehl$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
:>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a
new
:>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.

: Forget it, they seem to be out of business.

Why are you spreading this ill informed crap?  Does it make you feel good
about yourself?  Happy?  Maybe get's your teeny rocks off?

They have indeed answered my questions, as recently as about 5 weeks ago.

You, in fact, seem to be a liar at worst, a rumormonger at best.  Those
are the only categories of person you have given yourself here.  Which is
it - liar or rumormonger?


-- 
John M. Price, PhD                                     jmprice@calweb.com
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. 
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

Group selection is probably a good approximation for some situations.  But
like all physics theories come down to atoms or parts of atoms, biology
has to come down to individuals or sometimes parts of individuals. 
             - Dr. David Rosen on sci.bio.evolution

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From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com                           26-Sep-99 21:55:12
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 21:23:22
Subj: Partition Magic 3.03 won't install on 8.6Gb HPFS partition

From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw)

Just attempted to install my copy of PM 3.03, which I've had lying 
around
here, unopened for 2 years.

NB:  All drives SCSI.

I want to install it to my D: drive, which is a primary, 8.6Gb HPFS
partition, because I want to resize my C: drive (primary, bootable, 
1.5 Gb
Warp4 HPFS partition) and install boot manager on it, so that I can 
play
with various flavors of Linux on my E: drive, (which now is a primary 
8.6
Gb HPFS partition - I know that I have to correct this as well).  
Apparently
you can't run PM from the partition that you want to resize.

Anyway, I have over 7.5 Gb free space on D:, but PM refuses to 
install,
reporting that I don't have enough available space.

Any ideas?

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 26-Sep-99 22:04:18
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 21:23:23
Subj: Re: dvd player/2

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <xvzjnvpfcnztbgbtneontrqrygnargpbz.fin9py0.pminews@news.deltanet.com>, "Kim 
Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com> writes:
>On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:05:40 -0700, nospam_madbrain@thetaband.com wrote:
>
>>In <qvaxqbagfcnzzr.fimke21.pminews@ftl.msen.com>, on 09/25/99 
>>   at 12:56 PM, "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me> said:
>>
>>>I'd be willing to pay at least $30 for a dvd movie player
>>>program for OS/2.. Im sure other ppl would also, so..
>>>someone make one! =)
>>
>>>- dink ( http://dink.org )
>>
>>A full $30, heh ?
>>
>>And you think that's going to pay for the development of :
>>1) storage drivers for DVD drives (currently unrecognized in OS/2, or maybe
>>only as CD-ROMs) 2) OS/2 MPEG-2 support. Currently OpenMPEG for OS/2
supporst
>>only MPEG-1 and DVD uses MPEG-2 for video. 3) MPEG accelerator drivers in
>>order to be able to play the MPEG-2 video fast enough 4) audio drivers for
>>newer soundcards to play AC3 through digital output 5) a new audio CODEC to
>>downmix AC3 to stereo
>>
>>Due to all the copyrights and patents on all those things, and all the
>>proprietary hardware information that would be required, it would cost
upwards
>>of a million dollars and take a year to develop, 
>
>I don't think that's an exaggeration.
>
>>and partnerships with many
>>hardware manufacturers would be required for it to be possible. At $30 a
>>piece, it would take 33,333 customers of the programs just to break even. 
>
>Now, at $120 a piece, it will take 8,333 customers to break even.   Are there
>that many?

consider it 8,332 ; give me an address and I'll mail you the money. If you
can't 
get it funded, return the money.


>
>>I
>>don't think you will see this support come from an ISV. As much as I would
>>like to work on this project, it needs some serious funding.
>
>If you think you can pull it off, I will refer you to somebody that "might"
>have the funding.
>
>


--
Hrad ngravvrd


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From: TheCentralScrutinizer.163@pobox.com               26-Sep-99 21:33:21
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 21:23:23
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: TheCentralScrutinizer.163@pobox.com ()

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:02:09 -0400, Alan Boritz <aboritz@cybernex.net> wrote:
>In article <7sktrg$ehl$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
>>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a
new
>>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.
>
>Forget it, they seem to be out of business.


-- 
Not acording to http://www.southsoft.com

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From: madbrain@thetaband.com                            26-Sep-99 22:36:29
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 21:23:23
Subj: Theta Band Software releases MMPACK

From: madbrain@thetaband.com

[sorry if you get this announcement twice, but there seemed to be
some problems with our ISP's news server last week]

Theta Band Software announces the release of MMPACK

Theta Band Software, an OS/2-only software vendor, announces the
immediate availability of the Multimedia PACK.  The MMPACK is a
collection of three software programs that enhance the multimedia
features of OS/2 Warp. Anyone who uses multimedia in OS/2 is sure to
find at least one of these programs of value.

The first program is NPDSMI 2.0, an update to the free NPDSMI Netscape
plug-in already available from Theta Band Software's web site.  NPDSMI
1.0 allowed users of Netscape Navigator and Communicator for OS/2 to
play various music files through the web browser. This update adds
support for compressed module files, which are becoming more and more
popular.

The second program is an MPU-401 device driver. This device driver
provides support for playing MIDI files with any MPU-401 compatible
sound card.  It acts as a replacement for the MPU-401 driver provided
by IBM and Crystal Semiconductor, and it includes several new features,
such as MIDI recording without needing an IRQ and DOS sharing support.

The third program is MMCHECK, a command-line utility which checks your
multimedia setup for problems.  OS/2's multimedia support, aka MMPM/2,
is very sensitive to the contents of one file, MMPM2.INI.  MMCHECK
scans MMPM2.INI and reports any errors.  If an error is found, Theta
Band Software's technical support will help you fix the problem.

The MM PACK was in thorough beta testing for a year, and the release is
moderately priced at $35.  It comes with free updates to any 1.x
releases as well as one year of e-mail technical support.  It can be
purchased and downloaded from Theta Band Software's web site at
http://www.thetaband.com . Theta Band Software will also demonstrate
MMPACK at Warpstock'99.


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Julien Pierre               http://www.madbrain.com
Theta Band Software LLC     http://www.thetaband.com


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: NormReitzel@keinspam.swbell.net                   26-Sep-99 18:31:16
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 21:23:23
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: "Norm Reitzel" <NormReitzel@keinspam.swbell.net>

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:02:09 -0400, Alan Boritz wrote:

>In article <7sktrg$ehl$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
>>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a
new
>>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.
>
>Forget it, they seem to be out of business.

If they are out of business, there must be some kind of wraith there answering 
questions by 
email.  I've had some issues with setup of PMMail 2.0 overtop 1.96, and they
have answered 
promptly and accurately in the last few days.

So, are you one of these shills paid by Microsoft to lie, cheat, and spread
rumors?


Norm Reitzel                             Don't take life so seriously,
Blue Water Ventures               It isn't permanent.



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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      26-Sep-99 19:21:05
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 21:23:23
Subj: Solved 

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <lbsH3.7140$5t2.122815@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>, baden@unixg.ubc.ca (Baden
Kudrenecky) writes:

>In <c1.2c.2SKYT5$1Ru@rhino_house.ibm.net>, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid     
(John Thompson) writes:
>>I just downloaded the Communicator v4.61 GA and Java 1.1.8 
>>runtime packages.  Communicator installed fine but I have been 
>>unable to install Java 1.1.8.  After extracting the package with 
>>the "/di /ov" option as directed and running "INSTALL" I get 
>>Comunicator v4.61 with the Feature Install screen to select a 
>>language.  I select "English" and the machine cogitates for a 
>>while and then spits out the error:
>>
>>        Unable to locate or create Feature Installer object. 
>>        Make sure the RESPONSE file for this feature is located
>>        in the current working directory.

>   I had this error, as the correct file was deleted after the
>install, so I just unpacked "firunpkg.zip" again.  Maybe you 
>will have to also run "fisetup.exe".

Problem solved, thank you all.  It appears I was using an 
unforgivably ancient version of "Feature Installer" viz, v1.21.
After updating to FI v1.25 Java v1.1.8 installed.  It complained 
about an older version of the Unicode font, and then told me the 
installation failed, but it seems to work anyway:

[d:\]java -fullversion
JAVA.EXE full version "JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-19990728 (JIT enabled: javax
V3.
5-IBMJDK1.1-19990728)"

So I guess I'm happy, at least until somebody tells me I need a 
newer version...

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 26-Sep-99 19:07:06
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 21:23:23
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:33:50, pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com (taiQ) a crit dans un 
>message:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:32:48, milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao) 
>> thought aloud:
>> 
>> > Noticed one more problem.
>> > 
>> > DnD to a folder open in details view, doesn't work.
>> 
>> Darn, you're right. This one's a killer for me since the folders for 
>> my URLs and saved html files are both set for Details View.
>
>Try using the WPUrlFolder class, instead of just a plain folder. 
>
>There's probably a template for it in your Templates folder, but it wasn't 
>here so I used ClassMan to create one.
>
>Class: WpUrlFolder, in DLL: WPINET 
>
>I've got several, nested, to organize hundreds of URLs.

Brilliant, I was just looking for this. 

However, one thing I can't manage to do: make the URLs
display in a semi-tree view, as they do in the "Connections"
folder.  So, while I never use it, I like the "Business and
Shopping" subfolder in "Connections" is laid out:

	+ Business and Shopping

so when I click on it, it opens up like this 

	- Business and Shopping
	   & Amazon Books
	   & American Airlines
	   & BookWire

etc. (where & = the little globe-and-page icon)  Whereas in
my own "Urls" folder, any folder which contains a subfolder
has the plus sign that opens a view of the subfolder it
contains, but any subfolder containing a URL DOESN'T have a
plus sign, and can't be opened with the handy tree view --
it will only do Details or Icon in a separate folder.  I've
tried going through the Properties of each individual folder
(as well as both those for both parent folders) and I can't
seem to discover a setting which will enable this behavior. 
Of course, even as it works it's most handy, but I wish I
could get it to act like that "Connections" folder. 


-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 26-Sep-99 19:35:09
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 21:23:23
Subj: Re: PSION 5 and OS/2 synch

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Winfried.T@inter.nl.netX (Winfried Tilanus) wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:54:32, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 
>(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote:
>
>> something makes me think
>> it's a fellow in Belgium, and he'd made some good progress.
>
>It is a Dutch guy, from the city of Groningen, but that is all I 
>remember. (Don't name a Dutch guy Belgic, it is a sin)
>

Oooh, sorry about that.  Maybe unrelated, but I know a girl
who's mostly Belgian but always says she's Dutch.


-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          27-Sep-99 00:46:17
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 23:07:13, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael 
Tennenbaum) a crit dans un message:
snipt
> 
> However, one thing I can't manage to do: make the URLs
> display in a semi-tree view, as they do in the "Connections"
> folder.  So, while I never use it, I like the "Business and
> Shopping" subfolder in "Connections" is laid out:
> 
> 	+ Business and Shopping
> 
> so when I click on it, it opens up like this 
> 
> 	- Business and Shopping
> 	   & Amazon Books
> 	   & American Airlines
> 	   & BookWire
> 
> etc. (where & = the little globe-and-page icon)  Whereas in
> my own "Urls" folder, any folder which contains a subfolder
> has the plus sign that opens a view of the subfolder it
> contains, but any subfolder containing a URL DOESN'T have a
> plus sign, and can't be opened with the handy tree view --
> it will only do Details or Icon in a separate folder.  I've
> tried going through the Properties of each individual folder
> (as well as both those for both parent folders) and I can't
> seem to discover a setting which will enable this behavior. 
> Of course, even as it works it's most handy, but I wish I
> could get it to act like that "Connections" folder. 

That's an "Open in Same Window" kind of function and the only place I've 
ever seen that behaviour is in Object Desktop's Folder class. You're right,
it *is* very convenient. (Too bad stardock won't fix their program so it 
runs right...)

I've used three different ways to organize URLs, and each one has its 
attractive features, and drawbacks. Too bad nobody has put all the good 
ones together.

1. I've been a longtime user of WebOrganizer. It opens a window that allows
you to drag over the URLs from your Netscape bookmarks (or WebEx's) to the 
WebOrg page, where you can file them into subfolders. Then, after you close
the program, it builds a nice set of HTML pages to hold everything. Many 
dozens of pages, if that's the way your mind works. I then set WebEx's 
MAIN.HTML main page as the default "Home" page for any browsers I've got. 
If I keep WebEx on a FAT drive that my Windows system can see, I can even 
point to it as the Home page for any Windows browsers, too. Neat. In this 
mode, Netscape's BOOKMARK.HTM becomes just a holding page, until I move the
URLs over to WebEx. This program hasn't had any updates in a long time, and
it doesn't look like it will get the ability to import WPUrl objects, which
would make it great.

2. I've played with Netscape's Edit Bookmark function, hoping that I could 
set up a left "Nav" type window with all my URLs, and a right "Target" 
window with the real browser to open the URLs I click on. It works that 
way, but Edit Bookmarks still *stupidly* refuses to remember its window 
size/location, so you have to set it up every time you open NS. If NS 
allowed Edit Bookmarks to open with NS, and remembered where to put the 
windows, this could be very nifty. It would also be a very handy thing if 
Netscape could *import* WPUrl objects into BOOKMARK.HTM, somehow.

3. But OS/2's desktop URL objects are extremely valuable, because of all 
the information they store (and could store, if somebody wrote some minor 
extensions?) It would be really nice if WPUrlFolder objects remembered the 
internal separation lines, instead of opening to a rough default view every
time. And because they have a physical file on the HD. That allows them to 
be manipulated by FileStar/2, as well as by direct DnD, and sometimes that 
is very handy. Also, it's nice to know that my WPUrlFolders can be backed 
up quite safely and also carried from system to system, say, to my laptop 
before leaving town.



Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: forgitaboutit@fake.com                            26-Sep-99 21:57:20
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com>

In article <abezervgmryfjoryyarg.fioukl0.pminews@news.swbell.net>, 
NormReitzel@keinspam.swbell.net says...
>On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:02:09 -0400, Alan Boritz wrote:
>
>>In article <7sktrg$ehl$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
>>>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a
new
>>>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.
>>
>>Forget it, they seem to be out of business.
>
>If they are out of business, there must be some kind of wraith there
answering questions by 
>email.  I've had some issues with setup of PMMail 2.0 overtop 1.96, and they
have answered 
>promptly and accurately in the last few days.
>
>So, are you one of these shills paid by Microsoft to lie, cheat, and spread
rumors?
>
>
>Norm Reitzel                             Don't take life so seriously,
>Blue Water Ventures               It isn't permanent.
>
>
>
>

Probably. After all, why not put down a product that has a Windows version?
You 
guys are great! 
Muahhahhahhhaaaa!!

-- 
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David H. McCoy
dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
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From: Spike                                             27-Sep-99 01:41:28
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: Partition Magic 3.03 won't install on 8.6Gb HPFS partition

From: Spike

George,

Install it to the smaller drive and then pickup the PQMAGIC folder 
object and move it wherever you want it. I still don't think it will 
allow you to resize the boot drive, but I never actually tried to 
resize the active boot drive. I believe you will need to make a floppy
version and boot from same.

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:55:24, gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw) 
wrote:

> Just attempted to install my copy of PM 3.03, which I've had lying 
> around
> here, unopened for 2 years.
> 
> NB:  All drives SCSI.
> 
> I want to install it to my D: drive, which is a primary, 8.6Gb HPFS
> partition, because I want to resize my C: drive (primary, bootable, 
> 1.5 Gb
> Warp4 HPFS partition) and install boot manager on it, so that I can 
> play
> with various flavors of Linux on my E: drive, (which now is a primary 
> 8.6
> Gb HPFS partition - I know that I have to correct this as well).  
> Apparently
> you can't run PM from the partition that you want to resize.
> 
> Anyway, I have over 7.5 Gb free space on D:, but PM refuses to 
> install,
> reporting that I don't have enough available space.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 


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From: jbrock@panix.com                                  26-Sep-99 21:52:06
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Oops..., NS 4.61 on top of 2.02  :-(

From: jbrock@panix.com (John Brock)

I had planned to keep Netscape 2.02 around after installing 4.61, but
when the time came I mindlessly installed 4.61 into the same directory
(\NETSCAPE) where 2.02 was living.  Oops!

NS 4.61 seems be working fine anyway, and, oddly, 2.02 is still there
too.  But I do not feel good about this!  Any suggestions?  Should I
just try to uninstall everything and start over?

BTW, where does 4.61 keep its bookmark file (which I like to use as a
home page)?
-- 
John Brock
jbrock@panix.com

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     27-Sep-99 03:13:02
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 on Warp3/FP32

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:39:21, Jerry Lapham wrote:

->I've downloaded and am trying to install Netscape Communicator 4.61 GA
->(128 bit version) to my Warp3/FP32 system.  When I run Install I get the
->following error:
->
->    EPFIE602: An error occurred while attempting to create a directory. 
->Ensure you have write access to a drive with adequate space.
->
->The temporary directory where I'm running the install is on an HPFS
->partition that has over 700MB free.
->
->Any ideas what the real problem is?

The EPF installer doesn't like a) 4OS2 or b) spaces in directory names.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     27-Sep-99 03:15:11
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: Partition Magic 3.03 won't install on 8.6Gb HPFS partition

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:55:24 GMT, George Czerw wrote:

->Anyway, I have over 7.5 Gb free space on D:, but PM refuses to 
->install,
->reporting that I don't have enough available space.

Simple, just install Partition Magic and... Ah, no, you can't do that ;-)

Hit http://hobbes.nmsu.edu and search for spacehog. Use that to allocate a
gigantic space filler while you install the app on your large partition.
Upgrade to 3.05 afterwards before you delete the space filler files
because PQM patch files have the same bug.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 26-Sep-99 21:12:04
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:

>
>That's an "Open in Same Window" kind of function and the only place I've 
>ever seen that behaviour is in Object Desktop's Folder class. You're right,
>it *is* very convenient. (Too bad stardock won't fix their program so it 
>runs right...)

Strange, though, there must be some kind of class to allow
the "Connections" folder to behave this way, but for the
life of me I can't figure what it might be.  I tried copying
the folder to another on the desktop, and it ceased to
disply that semi-tree view -- strange, no?  As though there
were some secret key in there....

>
>I've used three different ways to organize URLs, and each one has its 
>attractive features, and drawbacks. Too bad nobody has put all the good 
>ones together.
>
>1. I've been a longtime user of WebOrganizer. It opens a window that allows
>you to drag over the URLs from your Netscape bookmarks (or WebEx's) to the 
>WebOrg page, where you can file them into subfolders. Then, after you close
>the program, it builds a nice set of HTML pages to hold everything. Many 
>dozens of pages, if that's the way your mind works. I then set WebEx's 
>MAIN.HTML main page as the default "Home" page for any browsers I've got. 
>If I keep WebEx on a FAT drive that my Windows system can see, I can even 
>point to it as the Home page for any Windows browsers, too. Neat. In this 
>mode, Netscape's BOOKMARK.HTM becomes just a holding page, until I move the
>URLs over to WebEx. This program hasn't had any updates in a long time, and
>it doesn't look like it will get the ability to import WPUrl objects, which
>would make it great.

Yeah, I've had Web.Org for a while, and I do like it. 
Unfortunately it's gotten so full that I'm already on my
second WebOrg folder, and I have so many divisions in it
I've now defeated my own purpose: e.g., where do I find the
ThinkPad drivers url: in "IBM," in "OS2," in "Hardware"? 
For some sorts of archiving it's quite good, but if I could
get that Connections thing working as I wish, I'd probably
use that most of the time.

>
>2. I've played with Netscape's Edit Bookmark function, hoping that I could 
>set up a left "Nav" type window with all my URLs, and a right "Target" 
>window with the real browser to open the URLs I click on. It works that 
>way, but Edit Bookmarks still *stupidly* refuses to remember its window 
>size/location, so you have to set it up every time you open NS. If NS 
>allowed Edit Bookmarks to open with NS, and remembered where to put the 
>windows, this could be very nifty. It would also be a very handy thing if 
>Netscape could *import* WPUrl objects into BOOKMARK.HTM, somehow.
>
>3. But OS/2's desktop URL objects are extremely valuable, because of all 
>the information they store (and could store, if somebody wrote some minor 
>extensions?) It would be really nice if WPUrlFolder objects remembered the 
>internal separation lines, instead of opening to a rough default view every
>time. 

Yes, I've thought that as well.  I also wish that I could
configure bookmark.htm in such a way as to make it more
useful altogether: eg, make it so it opens as a file with
columns, so I could maybe open it as a page and navigate
more easily through it.

>And because they have a physical file on the HD. That allows them to 
>be manipulated by FileStar/2, as well as by direct DnD, and sometimes that 
>is very handy. Also, it's nice to know that my WPUrlFolders can be backed 
>up quite safely and also carried from system to system, say, to my laptop 
>before leaving town.

This had also occurred to me a couple days ago: it's a drag
copyining my bookmarks to the laptop, because it contains
references to partitions that exist on the desktop but not
on the laptop -- which causes NS to freak when I open it up
on the ThinkPad.  But -- how can I copy a url folder from
the desktop?

I've got one called "Deja urls" on my desktop desktop.  When
I try to drag it onto my opened Drive A: icon view --
thinking this might be a way to preserve all that complexity
in the names -- it just won't go.  So, I just tried zipping
up 

    I:\Desktop\Deja urls

to disk, to see if that would work -- and it sort of almost
did, except the version of zip.exe I have can't seem to
handle spaces in filenames -- in any case, not even the
unspaced subfolders got copied across....


-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net                 26-Sep-99 19:21:19
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: Oops..., NS 4.61 on top of 2.02  :-(

From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net

In <7smikd$atm$1@panix.com>, on 09/26/99 
   at 09:52 PM, jbrock@panix.com (John Brock) said:

>NS 4.61 seems be working fine anyway, and, oddly, 2.02 is still there
>too.  But I do not feel good about this!  Any suggestions?  Should I just
>try to uninstall everything and start over?

Try it.  See if it works.  The NS4.61 developer's made the effort to allow
4.61 and 2.02 to co-exist.  This means non-conflicting DLL names.  You got
lucky and did not wipe out the 2.02 netscape.exe.

>BTW, where does 4.61 keep its bookmark file (which I like to use as a
>home page)?

In the Users directory.

HTH,

Steven

--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Levine <steve53removethis@earthlink.net>  MR2/ICE #10183 Warp4/FP11
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From: fwkirk@ibm.net                                    27-Sep-99 03:04:06
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: GA for download?: Netscape - Version 4.61 [en] - 990915

From: fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk)

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 05:01:59, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:

>       Thanks for finding this ftp site.  Can you tell me if this is the 128
> bit or the 58 bit version?  I am having trouble downloading it from Software
> Choice.
> 
> The 128 bit version is named: comm46xr.exe

Tim,
	Is this the correct site?  I can't find comm46xr at that address.  
Many thanks.

FWK 


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From: watchmakr@nospamvaxxine.com                       27-Sep-99 03:38:11
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: watchmakr@nospamvaxxine.com (John Blankenburg)

Mr A. Boritz posted in the post regarding the "disappearance" of the 
Keller group (PM fax) -that their web page was kaput, phone didn't 
work etc. some time ago - a year or two ? I forget. 
	I recall another news group flare up from him in  the past after that
one - same bullshit, different company - 
Now it's PMMail.... give me a break.

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From: watchmakr@nospamvaxxine.com                       27-Sep-99 03:44:16
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: watchmakr@nospamvaxxine.com (John Blankenburg)

Please - is the crap necessary - David ( were'nt you "Ominor" at one 
time ?) McCoy - why is it that the advocacy crap spreads into 
technical or specific newsgroups - I am pleased that you have found 
happiness in the grip of Microsoft daydreams, but most of us are 
interested in OS/2 applications here, not the anti OS/2 fud. 

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:57:40, David H. McCoy <forgitaboutit@fake.com> 
wrote:

> In article <abezervgmryfjoryyarg.fioukl0.pminews@news.swbell.net>, 
> NormReitzel@keinspam.swbell.net says...
> >On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:02:09 -0400, Alan Boritz wrote:
> >
> >>In article <7sktrg$ehl$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
> >>>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a 
new
> >>>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.
> >>
> >>Forget it, they seem to be out of business.
> >
> >If they are out of business, there must be some kind of wraith there
answering questions by 
> >email.  I've had some issues with setup of PMMail 2.0 overtop 1.96, and
they have answered 
> >promptly and accurately in the last few days.
> >
> >So, are you one of these shills paid by Microsoft to lie, cheat, and spread 
rumors?
> >
> >
> >Norm Reitzel                             Don't take life so seriously,
> >Blue Water Ventures               It isn't permanent.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Probably. After all, why not put down a product that has a Windows version?
You 
> guys are great! 
> Muahhahhahhhaaaa!!
> 
> -- 
> ---------------------------------------
> David H. McCoy
> dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com
> ---------------------------------------


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From: jeffnik@autobahn.mb.ca                            27-Sep-99 04:41:21
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:05
Subj: Re: dvd player/2

From: jeffnik@autobahn.mb.ca (J. Robinson)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 02:05:40, nospam_madbrain@thetaband.com wrote:

> In <qvaxqbagfcnzzr.fimke21.pminews@ftl.msen.com>, on 09/25/99 
>    at 12:56 PM, "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me> said:
> 
> >I'd be willing to pay at least $30 for a dvd movie player
> >program for OS/2.. Im sure other ppl would also, so..
> >someone make one! =)
> 
> >- dink ( http://dink.org )
> 
> A full $30, heh ?
> 
> And you think that's going to pay for the development of :
> 1) storage drivers for DVD drives (currently unrecognized in OS/2, or maybe
> only as CD-ROMs) 2) OS/2 MPEG-2 support. Currently OpenMPEG for OS/2
supporst
> only MPEG-1 and DVD uses MPEG-2 for video. 3) MPEG accelerator drivers in
> order to be able to play the MPEG-2 video fast enough 4) audio drivers for
> newer soundcards to play AC3 through digital output 5) a new audio CODEC to
> downmix AC3 to stereo
> 
> Due to all the copyrights and patents on all those things, and all the
> proprietary hardware information that would be required, it would cost
upwards
> of a million dollars and take a year to develop, and partnerships with many
> hardware manufacturers would be required for it to be possible. At $30 a
> piece, it would take 33,333 customers of the programs just to break even. I
> don't think you will see this support come from an ISV. As much as I would
> like to work on this project, it needs some serious funding.
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Julien Pierre               http://www.madbrain.com
> Theta Band Software LLC     http://www.thetaband.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

Now, I'm not certain how helpful it is, but there is a buzz about 
DVD-movie playback coming to Linux (http://linuxtv.org/dvd/).  A 
company is manufacturing the DVD hardware with the built in decoding, 
and the linuxtv folks are producing an open-source driver for it.

Not being insane enough to write low-level stuff like drivers, I'd 
still like to assume that seeing the source-code for another OS may 
help someone develop drivers that could be used elsewhere... 

Just a thought.  (I'm full of them!)

Jeff R.
----------------
Whatza JamochaMUD?  http://www.autobahn.mb.ca/~jeffnik/JamochaMUD/
Or other stuff: http://www.autobahn.mb.ca/~jeffnik

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              26-Sep-99 18:07:22
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:05
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <37ee90cd_2@news.calweb.com>, John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> 
wrote:
>In comp.os.os2.apps article <RGl73gBhD26a092yn@cybernex.net> Alan Boritz
<aboritz@cybernex.net> wrote:
>: In article <7sktrg$ehl$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
>:>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a
new
>:>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.
>
>: Forget it, they seem to be out of business.
>
>Why are you spreading this ill informed crap?

It's not "ill informed," and far from "crap."

>Does it make you feel good
>about yourself?  Happy?  Maybe get's your teeny rocks off?

Is this carthartic for you?

>They have indeed answered my questions, as recently as about 5 weeks ago.

I'm glad for you, really.  I've got unanswered inquiries quite older than
that, and BMT Micro (who sold me this crap, no pun intended) is aware that
there's no longer tech support for their products.  Wow, they really put one
over on us, heh, heh.  There are basic faults in their non-beta PMMail product
about which they've known for years, but they pull a disappearing act when ANY
of their customers complain.

>You, in fact, seem to be a liar at worst, a rumormonger at best.

Is your PhD in "Stupid?"  As far as I'm concerned, until I see evidence that
"Southsoft" is taking care of their customers, myself included, they're no
longer in business, IMHO.  But, hey, if you don't like that, tough.

>Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683

Is your response part of your therapy?

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From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au                    27-Sep-99 04:37:12
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:05
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)

Raphael Tennenbaum <raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:
>
>>
>>That's an "Open in Same Window" kind of function and the only place I've 
>>ever seen that behaviour is in Object Desktop's Folder class. You're right,
>>it *is* very convenient. (Too bad stardock won't fix their program so it 
>>runs right...)
>
>Strange, though, there must be some kind of class to allow
>the "Connections" folder to behave this way, but for the
>life of me I can't figure what it might be.  I tried copying
>the folder to another on the desktop, and it ceased to
>disply that semi-tree view -- strange, no?  As though there
>were some secret key in there....

The secret key is SHOWALLINTREEVIEW=YES, or something like that.
I've forgotten the details, but you should check Deja News for
articles on that irritating hammer-and-screwdriver icon.  Sooner
or later you'll find a reference to someone's article on how to
use the hammer and screwdriver to do something useful.

Although I've forgotten how to do it to an existing folder, I can
tell you how to create a new folder with this property.  Write
some Rexx code that does something like this:

   rc = SysCreateObject( 'WPFolder','MyNewFolder',
                     '<WP_DESKTOP>',
                     'ALWAYSSORT=YES;SHOWALLINTREEVIEW=YES;OBJECTID=<new_id>',
                     'Update')

This should create a new folder on the desktop.  I suppose you
could then make a template of it to let you create many such
folders.

Now that I think of it, I didn't do this with Rexx code originally.
I just made a copy of the Connections folder, removed the contents
from the copy, and turned it into a template.

-- 
Peter Moylan                                         peter@ee.newcastle.edu.au
See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               26-Sep-99 22:19:14
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:05
Subj: More Throbbers From Warp City!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

> What are Throbbers?  They are animated replacement logos
> for the animated Netscape logo in Communicator/2 v4.61.

We now have eleven of them and each is exceptional.  For
your download please we have the:  spinning clock, cute dolphin,
walking eggman, winking eye, little googy, beating heart,
blinking lightbulb, the lighthouse, rolling ball, tweety bird
and Christof Pastor's "wave".  More Warp City Throbbers
are 'in the wings'!  Thanks to those who took the time to
make and send them in.

> If YOU make a Throbber and want to see it included on the
> Warp City Throbber site, please zip up the two graphic strips
> and send the Zip file on to me.  I'll create an animated graphic
> for web page display and insert the easy install instructions
> and give the author online credit.  It would be nice to have
> some really clever and well-made Throbbers.
>
> Our current offering of Throbbers are available here:

http://www.warpcity.com/throbbers.html

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"



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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               26-Sep-99 22:33:19
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:05
Subj: Re: GA for download?: Netscape - Version 4.61 [en] - 990915

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Frank Kirk wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 05:01:59, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:
>
> >       Thanks for finding this ftp site.  Can you tell me if this is the
128
> > bit or the 58 bit version?  I am having trouble downloading it from
Software
> > Choice.
> >
> > The 128 bit version is named: comm46xr.exe
>
> Tim,
>         Is this the correct site?  I can't find comm46xr at that address.
> Many thanks.
>
> FWK

It was there...  this may help:

J. Pedone says in an earlier post:

"It's not gone but it is invisible via FTP.  Use the web page to begin
the download.  You'll see it download from
username:password@somewhere/file

Use your FTP client to connect to somewhere.  Login as username using
password.  Switch to binary mode and get file - note, the file and the
directory it's in will not be visible from an FTP client but is there."

As long as you are within the U.S. you should be able to obtain
it.  It is not for export outside the U.S.  Email me if you should
continue to have problems.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"




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From: Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com               27-Sep-99 05:23:17
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:05
Subj: Produce PDF?

From: "Jan Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com>

Hi

I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS and PM)
in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use WordPro, so I
want to make PDF:s from my documents. Is there any way to do this
'automatically'? I don't mind going via some other format (ie. Post script)
if needed.

I don't want to use HTML since it isn't printer friendly.


 /j



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From: lazaga1@ibm.net                                   26-Sep-99 23:34:27
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 05:37:00
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: Paul Lazaga <lazaga1@ibm.net>


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 9-27-99, 5:23:35 AM, "Jan Danielsson" 
<Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com> wrote regarding Produce PDF?:


> Hi

> I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS 
and PM)
> in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use WordPro, 
so I
> want to make PDF:s from my documents. Is there any way to do this
> 'automatically'? I don't mind going via some other format (ie. Post 
script)
> if needed.

> I don't want to use HTML since it isn't printer friendly.


>  /j

This worked for me... and contains some things that make it "one-step"

http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_PMDistiller.html

-- 
Paul Lazaga, eMail: lazaga1@ibm.net
WTW Group, Los Gatos, California, USA
Tel: 408-378-8636, Fax: 408-378-5927
Web: http://www.wtwgroup.com



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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 27-Sep-99 06:27:11
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 05:37:00
Subj: Re: Netscape for OS/2, 4.61 GA Release

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <37E8679C.6422FE2@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>, "Jeffrey S. Kobal"
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> writes:
>
>Buddy Donnelly wrote:
>
>> Because that is what is in the Netscape they inherited?
>
>No, actually, we changed it.  It was originally "Courier",
>but "Courier New" renders much better, particularly at
>odd point sizes, so we changed the default so that the
>browser would look better overall in its default installed
>state.  Turns out to have been a bad decision, since the
>font might not be there!
>
>Jeffrey S. Kobal
>IBM Corporation
>Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team
>
>

where could one obtain "Courier New" ? If it renders better, seems like it 
might be worth the download, or even add it to the Communicator site ?

--
Hrad ngravvrd


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From: khalsa@ibm.net                                    27-Sep-99 03:06:17
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 05:37:00
Subj: Crash:Powerquest drive image 2.01

From: Satnam Singh <khalsa@ibm.net>

I am unable to create a disk image of my OS/2 boot partition (275MB
hpfs) due to consistent crash at 98% complete.  I have been able to
create images of win95 fat partition, hpfs program partition, and hpfs
maintenance boot partition.

Powerquest tech support is total limp on this one.  None of there
suggestions had any effect (memory shortage, change config.sys, etc.)

Usually the error message zips by too fast and the machine reboots, but
once I was able to record the error message:

DOS/4GW Professional error (2001): exception 0Dh (general protection
fault) at 200:00256039
TSF32: prev_tsf32 90D0
SS       208 DS       208 ES       208 FS         0 GS          20
EAX FFFFFFFF EBX  3848008 ECX 203D2044 EDX  D33203D
ESI  384C03C EDI FFFFFFFF EBP        7 ESP   2A9484
CS:IP  200:00256039  ID 0D COD       0 FLG    10297
CS=  200, USE32, page granular, limit FFFFFFFF, base       0, acc CF9B
SS=  208, USE32, page granular, limit FFFFFFFF, base       0, acc CF93
DS=  208, USE32, page granular, limit FFFFFFFF, base       0, acc CF93
ES=  208, USE32, page granular, limit FFFFFFFF, base       0, acc CF93
FS=    0, USE16, page granular, limit        0, base      16, acc  0
GS=   20, USE16, page granular, limit     FFFF, base   17900, acc 93
CR0: PG:0 ET:1 TS:0 EM:0 MP:0 PE:1   CR2: 0 CR3: 0
Crash address (unrelocated) - 1:000C8039
Opcode stream: 03 07 39 F0 75 10 03 0F 89 0F 3B 73 0C 75 03 89
Stack:
0208:002A9484   0208 0007 8008 0384 0001 0000 C040 0384 2FD0 0025 0007
0000
0208:002A949C   0000 0000 a847 0000 DBD6 0028 0007 0000 8015 0022 583F
3EC1
0208:002A94B4   0000 9258 0015 0180 0001 FE0A 95F4 002A 9982 002A A5CC
022C
0208:002A94CC   4378 002D DBD6 0028 7F32 0022 DBD6 0028 7F27 0022 0000
0000
0208:002A94E4   0007 0000 C781 001A 5D1B 0020 0012 0000 FFEF 002A 0012
0000
0208:002A94FC   000B 0012 95F0 002A 9550 002A 3B68 002D 0012 0000 000B
0000

I'm not an expert on these registers info, but I figured a general
protection fault was a memory access problem (common with MS Win) but
this boots from its own Caldera DOS boot disks.   Besides, other
partitions have had images created successfully.

Any ideas?



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From: Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de                 27-Sep-99 07:19:09
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 05:37:00
Subj: Re: y2k testing apps for OS2?

From: Frank.Berke@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Berke)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:09:37, jpedone_no_spam@flash.net wrote:

> Excellent advice but don't forget about the other issues as well:
Wow, thank you :-)

> The 2039 roll-over
I think by then, Tymoteusz' Computer will run in a museum only...

> Feb 29, 2000 leap year
Oh yes, I forgot about this. But the test procedure should be the 
same, anyway.

> Any user made databases/spread sheets with 2 digit years.
Well, this is a pure application software problem, which is in no way 
related to Tymotheusz' hardware or the core operating system. He 
should insist to get a Y2K compliancy statement from the manufacturer 
of his database/spreadsheet programs.

Regards,
FRANK

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          27-Sep-99 15:49:11
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 05:37:00
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 - Offline

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On 26 Sep 1999 17:14:39 GMT, Hann Wei Toh wrote:

:>Hi,
:>
:>I wonder if anyone else has encountered the same problem.
:>I found that Netscape 4.61 occasionally go offline
:>automatically.  When this happens, I get a dialog box
:>asking me to set it back to online when I click a link.
:>Setting it back to online solves the problem.  I believe
:>I did not touch any other thing when it goes offline.
:>Is this a bug?  Or is it supposed to behave in this way?
:>
:>Best wishes.
:>
:>Hann Wei


Haven't seen that happen but I did have my first case
of a download just stopping halfway through :-(

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: Super_Copy@yahoo.com                              27-Sep-99 08:36:18
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Shareware: Super Copy for DOS v1.00

From: Super_Copy@yahoo.com (Super Copy)

The shareware application described below is now available for download at
        http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/win3/util/scdos100.zip/
        ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/fileutil/scdos100.zip
and all mirrors thereof. For more download sites, please search for the
string "scdos100" at any major web search engine.
The shareware version is fully-functional, with no "nagging" displays or
prompts whatsoever. A MUST-HAVE for anyone who uses removable media in
his/her PC!
Commercial versions for Win32 and OS/2 are available! See "readme.txt"
for details.
===============================================================================
=
Description

"Super Copy" is a command-line utility for copying and backing up files. It is
meant to replace the functionality of the "copy" and "xcopy" commands
provided by DOS and other more advanced operating systems. Furthermore
"Super Copy" provides the special capability to selectively copy files
from one removable disk (or any comparable medium) to another even if you
only have a single disk drive to operate such media. We call this feature
"one-drive selective copy".

Advantages

"Super Copy" has the following functional advantages over competing utilities:

1) Optimized memory usage: can use all available memory under DOS.
Runs in 80386 protected mode, taking advantage of the greater memory
capabilities of modern CPUs. "Super Copy" is capable of addressing up
to 4 GigaBytes of memory, subject to the limitations of the operating system.

2) OS compatibility: runs in compatibility modem under Windows (3.1,
4.0 "Windows 95", 4.1 "Windows 98"), Windows NT and OS/2.
"Super Copy" can even use virtual memory under these operating systems.

3) Conveniently copy files or entire directory structures between removable
disks with a minimum amount of disk swapping. You will not be bothered
by a myriad of prompts asking you:
        "Please insert source disk"
        "Please insert destination disk"
over and over. You will not have to copy an entire disk when all you
want to do is copy one or two files from one disk to another.

4) A simple command-line syntax, similar to the "xcopy.exe" command. If
you already know how to use "xcopy", learning to use "Super Copy"should be
almost instantaneous. Another advantage of a similar syntax is that you
can call "Super Copy" from within your existing batch files with aminimal
amount of modifications.

5) Tested for compatibility with storage products from majormanufacturers:
        "Zip drive" from IOMega Corp.
        "SyJet" from SyQuest Corp.
just to name a few.
This utility relies on the operating system to support various connections
and transport protocols for storage devices, and therefore is compatible with
        IDE (EIDE, ATA, UDMA)
        SCSI (Fast-SCSI, Ultra-SCSI, Wide-SCSI)
and more.

6) Y2K compliant. "Super Copy" will discern and compare properly file
dates at 1 January 2000 and beyond.

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From: ape@spacetec.no                                   27-Sep-99 10:50:26
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: spruce/2 email client

From: Asbjoern Pettersen <ape@spacetec.no>

I just ported spruce to XFree86/2 today.
It's a email client.
See
http://www.xtorshun.org/spruce/main.html

Seems to work but i havn't got time to test it further.
Anyone interested in this app. ?


Asbjoern Pettersen.

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    26-Sep-99 10:22:21
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Re: y2k testing apps for OS2?

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <7skhbs$8u$1@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
altman@sfu.ca (Tymoteusz Altman) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a pretty old (4/5 years) Pentium90 computer, and I want to see if
>it's Y2K complient. Are there any apps for os2 that test this, as well
>as test to see if the os is complient?

There was a program available from National Software Testing Labs, 
which would do this.  As I recall, it created a bootable diskette, 
which when booted, would do the analasys and give a report.  As for 
OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, get the latest fixpaks.


-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: williamd1@ibm.net                                 27-Sep-99 09:14:00
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Re: More Throbbers From Warp City!

From: williamd1@ibm.net (williamd1)

Hmmm. I seem to have hit a brick wall at the site's homepage. How does
one become a member?

Bill

__
williamd1@ibm.net

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From: oad@it.hkbank.com                                 27-Sep-99 17:22:08
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Re: Problems on WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows filename automatically rena

From: "oad" <oad@it.hkbank.com>

Mike Lam wrote in message <37eb4b8c.978326@news.hkstar.com>...
>On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:57:02 +0800, "oad" <oad@it.hkbank.com> wrote:
>
>>Our workstations used OS/2 platform. Using WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows
>>installed on Novell server. The WordPerfect file automatically rename to
>>@xxxxxxx.wpd periodically.
>>
>>
>
>what OS/2 version? Any details?

>
OS/2 Warp 4.


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From: C.J.@btsoftware.com                               27-Sep-99 10:33:08
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Updated: DCITU

From: "C.J." <C.J.@btsoftware.com>

DCITU
********
Digital Camera Image Transfer Utility
        
This program allows images to be transferred from 
various digital  cameras to an OS/2-based computer.

Download the free trila version from:
http://www.btsoftware.com/os2/dcitu.htm


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From: csaba.raduly@sophos.com                           27-Sep-99 11:06:05
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com>

steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net wrote:
> 
> In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-yOPt3ddGbIbU@localhost>, on 09/25/99
>    at 08:34 PM, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:
> 
> >Unfortunately, none that I know of. Sometimes, an educated guess will
> >work, and sometimes, you just need to let Netscape do the download. So
> >far, most of the cases, that I have seen, have been obvious.
> 
Start the download, click Cancel, right-click the URL 
and select "Copy link location", then start a command prompt
and paste the link for wget :-)

Csaba

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From: Spammers@Bite.Me                                  27-Sep-99 11:43:04
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>

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Hash: SHA1

Hey Cool!  As the author of that little REXX Script, I'm real happy to see
others are using it successfully!

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 23:34:55 GMT, Paul Lazaga wrote:

>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>On 9-27-99, 5:23:35 AM, "Jan Danielsson" 
><Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com> wrote regarding Produce PDF?:
>
>
>> Hi
>
>> I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS 
>and PM)
>> in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use WordPro, 
>so I
>> want to make PDF:s from my documents. Is there any way to do this
>> 'automatically'? I don't mind going via some other format (ie. Post 
>script)
>> if needed.
>
>> I don't want to use HTML since it isn't printer friendly.
>
>
>>  /j
>
>This worked for me... and contains some things that make it "one-step"
>
>http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_PMDistiller.html
>
>-- 
>Paul Lazaga, eMail: lazaga1@ibm.net
>WTW Group, Los Gatos, California, USA
>Tel: 408-378-8636, Fax: 408-378-5927
>Web: http://www.wtwgroup.com
>
>
>

Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.

o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o
o                                                 o
o  Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at:     o
o  http://www.nassauwings.org/                    o
o  A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring!   o
o                                                 o
o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o



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From: Spammers@Bite.Me                                  27-Sep-99 11:44:15
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Re: More Throbbers From Warp City!

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>

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From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>
Message-ID: <wnvzrpbcgbayvararg.fipva01.pminews@news.optonline.net>
References: <37ED9C6F.B1930E94@WarpCity.com> <37EEFE5F.DA035F62@WarpCity.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:44:24 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-To: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>
X-Newsreader: PMINews 2.00.1205 For OS/2
Organization: Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club
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Subject: Re: More Throbbers From Warp City!

Anybody make the classic WebExplorer surfing logo?

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 22:19:28 -0700, Tim Martin wrote:

>> What are Throbbers?  They are animated replacement logos
>> for the animated Netscape logo in Communicator/2 v4.61.
>
>We now have eleven of them and each is exceptional.  For
>your download please we have the:  spinning clock, cute dolphin,
>walking eggman, winking eye, little googy, beating heart,
>blinking lightbulb, the lighthouse, rolling ball, tweety bird
>and Christof Pastor's "wave".  More Warp City Throbbers
>are 'in the wings'!  Thanks to those who took the time to
>make and send them in.
>
>> If YOU make a Throbber and want to see it included on the
>> Warp City Throbber site, please zip up the two graphic strips
>> and send the Zip file on to me.  I'll create an animated graphic
>> for web page display and insert the easy install instructions
>> and give the author online credit.  It would be nice to have
>> some really clever and well-made Throbbers.
>>
>> Our current offering of Throbbers are available here:
>
>http://www.warpcity.com/throbbers.html
>
>Tim Martin
>The OS/2 Guy
>Warp City
>http://warpcity.com
>"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"
>
>
>

Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.

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o                                                 o
o  Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at:     o
o  http://www.nassauwings.org/                    o
o  A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring!   o
o                                                 o
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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         27-Sep-99 12:06:02
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: HP Colorado 8GB Travan internal tape drive

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

In article <37eadc53$1$zpunffba$mr2ice@news3.ibm.net>,
  mchasson@ibm.net wrote:

> >Siobhan Perricone
>
> Irish and Italian eh???

My husband's Italian.  You couldn't really call me anything but
American, my ethnicity is so mixed. :)

> Well look, go to Indelible Blue and get the demos for a couple of the
> listed programs.  I am using Novaback which seems to support
everything on
> all op sys and it is only $50.  I dont think much of Backmaster, and
BA2
> is only SCSI.  Anyway it will only take an hour or so to try out what
is
> available in demo form. --

I was assured by the BackAgain2 people that it supported my drive, so I
bought it.  Dling for test purposes is a *major* pain and BA/2 was only
150 bux (aaahhh corporate life does have a *few* perks ;).  If it
doesn't work, I'll send it back. :)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: cmhall@umich.edu                                  27-Sep-99 12:17:11
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall)

In <wnaqnavryffbasnyhaznvygryvnpbz.fipdvy0.pminews@news1.telia.com>, "Jan
Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com> writes:
>Hi
>
>I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS and PM)
>in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use WordPro, so I
>want to make PDF:s from my documents. Is there any way to do this
>'automatically'? I don't mind going via some other format (ie. Post script)
>if needed.
>
>I don't want to use HTML since it isn't printer friendly.
>
>
Get and install ghostview and ghostscript. Ghostview is mostly to make the
ghostscript installation easier. Create a postscript printer (Apple
Laserwriter
works) which prints to a file. Print your doc to this printer, which will then
create a ps file. In the ghostscript html docs, they explain how to to use
ghostscript to convert from ps to pdf. Normally, the process has to be done
in the gstools directory, but with a little rexx script (which I have) it is
possible to do this on the commandline from anywhere. 

Chris Hall  (cmhall@umich.edu)
Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan
"They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results
they expect, sometimes they don't."   from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.


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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 27-Sep-99 08:17:18
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) wrote:

>In article <37ee90cd_2@news.calweb.com>, John M Price PhD
<jmprice@calweb.com> wrote:
>>In comp.os.os2.apps article <RGl73gBhD26a092yn@cybernex.net> Alan Boritz
<aboritz@cybernex.net> wrote:
>>: In article <7sktrg$ehl$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
>>:>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a
new
>>:>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.
>>
>>: Forget it, they seem to be out of business.
>>
>>Why are you spreading this ill informed crap?
>
>It's not "ill informed," and far from "crap."
>
>>Does it make you feel good
>>about yourself?  Happy?  Maybe get's your teeny rocks off?
>
>Is this carthartic for you?
>
>>They have indeed answered my questions, as recently as about 5 weeks ago.
>
>I'm glad for you, really.  I've got unanswered inquiries quite older than
>that, and BMT Micro (who sold me this crap, no pun intended) is aware that
>there's no longer tech support for their products.  Wow, they really put one
>over on us, heh, heh.  There are basic faults in their non-beta PMMail
product
>about which they've known for years, but they pull a disappearing act when
ANY
>of their customers complain.
>
>>You, in fact, seem to be a liar at worst, a rumormonger at best.
>
>Is your PhD in "Stupid?"  As far as I'm concerned, until I see evidence that
>"Southsoft" is taking care of their customers, myself included, they're no
>longer in business, IMHO.  But, hey, if you don't like that, tough.
>
>>Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
>
>Is your response part of your therapy?

Maybe to put to you what he was saying another way -- for
maybe about the thirtieth time: Southsoft is not out of
business.  Even those of us who wish they were more
responsive would probably give them at least the chance to
bring out the next version before flaming them at every
turn. 

Otoh, if when you send messages to them you're half the
asshole you come across as when you post your seemingly
endless list of gripes here, I would not blame them for not
getting back to you. 

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            27-Sep-99 12:45:24
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-E6U1Qn6biWyp@POBLANO>, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)
writes:
>
>It's fascinating that all of the complaints about Comm4.6.1 (that I have
>noticed, anyway) are all about systems with Matrox display hardware. One
>wonders about the drivers.
>

Just for the record I am using a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP with the
2.22.078 drivers and Netscape works just fine.

----
Jeff

   The tyrant asks: "What have you got to hide?!?"
   The free man replies: "I have no reason to choose to tell you."

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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            27-Sep-99 12:28:24
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <37EC5C65.69495AD9@computer.org>, Hann Wei Toh <hannwei@computer.org>
writes:
>Jeffery Swagger wrote:
>> Except that, invariably, the URL is abbreviated in the download box
>> because it is to long to fit.  Any way to reliably determine what it is?
>
>If I could not determine the full URL from the download box, I always
>looked at the HTML source.  A simple solution, which I have not tried,
>is to save the HTML source as a local file, note the portion of the URL
>seen in the download box, then open the source file with an editor and
>use the "find" function to locate the full URL.  The URL will probably
>be found within some JavaScript code.
>
>Hann Wei

Thanks for the hint. I'll give it a try next time.

----
Jeff

   Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's
   character, give him power.  -- Abraham Lincoln

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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            27-Sep-99 12:40:23
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <37ed8f42$1$fgrir53$mr2ice@news.earthlink.net>,
steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net writes:
>In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-yOPt3ddGbIbU@localhost>, on 09/25/99
>   at 08:34 PM, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:
>
>>Unfortunately, none that I know of. Sometimes, an educated guess will
>>work, and sometimes, you just need to let Netscape do the download. So
>>far, most of the cases, that I have seen, have been obvious.
>
>Actually, it's very easy to determine the download site and the required
>username and password using tools you already have.  However, IBM clearly
>wants the adminstrative control that downloading via Netscape provides and
>I'll abide by their choice.
>

Huh?  What the blue blazes does IBM care what, when or where I download
with Netscape.  You think IBM keeps a record of everything you download?


----
Jeff

   The tyrant asks: "What have you got to hide?!?"
   The free man replies: "I have no reason to choose to tell you."

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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            27-Sep-99 12:36:10
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-yOPt3ddGbIbU@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug
Bissett) writes:
>
*snip*
>Now, IF someone would just put together a decent 128 bit security
>enabled BROWSER (like an updated WebEx), with none of the other stuff
>(e-mail, composer, news reader etc), but with a way to link your
>favourite programs to it for the missing functions, we would all be
>far better off.
>

Actually it be better if it was all implemented as WPS objects.

----
Jeff

   The tyrant asks: "What have you got to hide?!?"
   The free man replies: "I have no reason to choose to tell you."

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From: mtve@hal-pc.org                                   27-Sep-99 08:13:21
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: Netscape for OS/2, 4.61 GA Release

From: Marvin Volz <mtve@hal-pc.org>

Came with my Lotus Smartsuite
MTV

hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

> In <37E8679C.6422FE2@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>, "Jeffrey S. Kobal"
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> writes:
> >
> >Buddy Donnelly wrote:
> >
> >> Because that is what is in the Netscape they inherited?
> >
> >No, actually, we changed it.  It was originally "Courier",
> >but "Courier New" renders much better, particularly at
> >odd point sizes, so we changed the default so that the
> >browser would look better overall in its default installed
> >state.  Turns out to have been a bad decision, since the
> >font might not be there!
> >
> >Jeffrey S. Kobal
> >IBM Corporation
> >Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team
> >
> >
>
> where could one obtain "Courier New" ? If it renders better, seems like it
> might be worth the download, or even add it to the Communicator site ?
>
> --
> H?rad ?ngravv?rd

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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               27-Sep-99 13:06:29
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: Two e-mail addresses?

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) wrote:

> Only problem is that PMMail and PMINews are completely unsupported, since
> Southsoft appears to have gone out of business, or at least discontinued
tech
> support.  Netscape is at least minimally supported (bugs are being fixed,
> while none of the Southsoft bugs are), and multiple user identities are
supported.

Isn't this the fourth time within a year that you claim that a company is no
longer in business or not supporting their products, while at the same time
others have no problems at all reaching them and getting support?

If that is a correct observation of what is going on, why are you doing this?

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
---
usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (at becomes @)
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From: abeagley_DeleteThisToReply@datat...               26-Sep-99 22:16:29
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

Message sender: abeagley_DeleteThisToReply@datatone.com

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley_DeleteThisToReply@datatone.com>

I, too, am using a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP. Everything was fine after I
selected
"document-specified fonts, but disable Dynamic Fonts."

Alan Beagley

Jeffery Swagger wrote:

> In <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-E6U1Qn6biWyp@POBLANO>, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)
writes:
> >
> >It's fascinating that all of the complaints about Comm4.6.1 (that I have
> >noticed, anyway) are all about systems with Matrox display hardware. One
> >wonders about the drivers.
> >
>
> Just for the record I am using a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP with the
> 2.22.078 drivers and Netscape works just fine.

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From: Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com               27-Sep-99 14:05:28
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 11:20:22
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: "Jan Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com>

>This worked for me... and contains some things that make it "one-step"
>
>http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_PMDistiller.html

Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.


 /j



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From: sbowring+nospam@mpc-data.co.uk                    27-Sep-99 14:15:18
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 15:18:03
Subj: Re: Netlabs statement about the future of OS/2

From: "Simon Bowring" <sbowring+nospam@mpc-data.co.uk>

>In the mean time, they could issue a Client 4.1 media refresh, so people
>could install 4.0 with fresh fixpacks, java updates, etc. in one go.

Absolutely, it's unforgivable that this isn't available as a media
cost only option - it's nearly October 1999 and I believe there 
isn't even a fully Y2K compliant shrink wrap version of the 
OS/2 Client.

Wake up IBM.

Simon Bowring


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From: worlock@frontiernet.net                           27-Sep-99 09:54:05
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 15:18:03
Subj: Re: Photo>Graphics free license?

From: "RichS" <worlock@frontiernet.net>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Has anyone at all gotten the code? I've been waiting for weeks with no
answer...

Thanks...

Rich...

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:05:59 GMT, Michel A Goyette wrote:

>Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:17:47, domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard) a 
>crit:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:52:52, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
>> 
>> > 1.  Where is the download?
>> 
>> http://www.truespectra.com/support.html
>> 
>> > 2.  What is the code?
>> 
>> Instructions on above mentioned page.
>
>	I emailed them more than 1 week ago...still no answer.  ;-)
>
>Salut,
>
>	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
>	ICQ #13376913
>	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

******************************************************************************
Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless...Umm...Uhh....
Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff.
- -----------------------------{worlock@frontiernet/net}-------------------
--------------
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From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell...               27-Sep-99 14:41:25
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 15:18:03
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net

From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith)

In article <nfJH3.186$Gn.19500@news.itd.umich.edu>,
	cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) writes:
> In <wnaqnavryffbasnyhaznvygryvnpbz.fipdvy0.pminews@news1.telia.com>, "Jan
Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com> writes:
>>Hi
>>
>>I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS and PM)
>>in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use WordPro, so I
>>want to make PDF:s from my documents. Is there any way to do this
>>'automatically'? I don't mind going via some other format (ie. Post script)
>>if needed.
>>
>>I don't want to use HTML since it isn't printer friendly.
>>
>>
> Get and install ghostview and ghostscript.

One point about Ghostscript and its PDF production is that, up through
version 5.50 (the latest, the last I checked), Ghostscript does a lousy
job with fonts other than the standard PostScript fonts (Times, Helvetica,
and Courier).  Unfortunately, many OS/2 programs have a tendency to
produce output that uses "custom" fonts even for these, so you'll get
poor fonts from OS/2 applications.  I'm not familiar with WordPro, so I
don't know if it's got this feature, but in DeScribe, there's an option
you can select called "use printer fonts" or some such that causes a print
job to use the printer's built-in fonts -- the Times, Helvetica, or
Courier that work well with Ghostscript, in the case of a PostScript
printer.  I'd therefore suggest you look for such an option if you go this
route.

FWIW, I hear that the next major release of Ghostscript is supposed to
have improved font support in PDF production, so this might become less
of an issue.  Unfortunately, OS/2 tends to send fonts to PostScript
printers as bitmaps even when its got the .pfb files on hand, so this
might not do OS/2 users much good.

(BTW, none of this applies to Ghostscript output in other than PDF format;
Ghostscript handles fonts just fine when sending output to a printer or
creating a bitmapped graphics file.)

-- 
Rod Smith       smithrod@bellatlantic.net
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com                       27-Sep-99 15:23:23
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 15:18:03
Subj: Re: Netscape for OS/2, 4.61 GA Release

From: babnospam@nospambigpond.com

> where could one obtain "Courier New" ? If it renders better, seems like it 
> might be worth the download, or even add it to the Communicator site ?
> 
> --
> Hrad ngravvrd

As someone said, it comes with Lotus Smart Suite. Also with Star 
Office.  The font called COUR.TTF
in Windows 98 is also Courier New and that is the one I installed from
my Windows Partition via the Font Palette.

bab

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From: bandyo@wam.umd.edu                                27-Sep-99 11:51:10
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 15:18:03
Subj: Re: Photo>Graphics free license?

From: Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu>

I got the code this morning.  The trick is to keep the subject header 
of your code request completely blank contrary to their instructions.  
State the request in the body.  This has been posted in the newsgroup 
before.

Sushenjit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 9-27-99, 1:54:11 PM, "RichS" <worlock@frontiernet.net> wrote 
regarding Re: Photo>Graphics free license?:


> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1

> Has anyone at all gotten the code? I've been waiting for weeks with no
> answer...

> Thanks...

> Rich...





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From: rhb@accessv.com                                   27-Sep-99 15:46:07
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: "Rob Burton" <rhb@accessv.com>

461 works, apparently, with my Mystique at 2.22

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:45:49 GMT, Jeffery Swagger wrote:

|In <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-E6U1Qn6biWyp@POBLANO>, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)
writes:
|>
|>It's fascinating that all of the complaints about Comm4.6.1 (that I have
|>noticed, anyway) are all about systems with Matrox display hardware. One
|>wonders about the drivers.
|>
|
|Just for the record I am using a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP with the
|2.22.078 drivers and Netscape works just fine.
|
|----
|Jeff
|
|   The tyrant asks: "What have you got to hide?!?"
|   The free man replies: "I have no reason to choose to tell you."
|



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From: matt@softh.com                                    27-Sep-99 11:53:04
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Re: GA for download?: Netscape - Version 4.61 [en] - 990915

From: Matt <matt@softh.com>

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Crashed the server did we ......well heck we have all been chewing our
tongues waiting for such as release :-). So far no problems...I downloaded
with 2.02 via the FTP option. Navigator seems superb in it s
operation/speed. I haven't tried all the options yet but I am happy to see
drap/drop back. Mesenger seem 1000% faster, and the newsraeder has locked
up yet. With all the flack you guys are getting about HTTP downloads and
printing problems I just wanted to say thankyou, thankyou, thankyou for
this release.

Matt

Michael Kaply wrote:

> OK, FYI, boulder put netscape on their fastest server and y'all crashed
> it!
>
> So they are moving to a server with many times more the capacity.
>
> That's really the answer.
>
> We underestimated demand.
>
> Mike Kaply
>
> bill.m@no.spam.net wrote:
>
> >This is very difficult for me to understand : IBM is suppose
> >to be selling solutions concerning servers connected to the
> >internet. Why is one of their servers, which should be a
> >showcase on how it can be done, 'dropping' so many
> >connections?

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From: esther@bitranch.com                               27-Sep-99 15:59:28
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:23:35, "Jan Danielsson" 
<Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com> wrote:

| I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS and PM)
| in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use WordPro, so I
| want to make PDF:s from my documents. Is there any way to do this
| 'automatically'? I don't mind going via some other format (ie. Post script)
| if needed.

I'd rather see you use HTML... not because it's inherently printer 
friendly, but because most modern word processors can read it. 
Alternatively, you can use RTF as a lingua franca, as long as the 
documents aren't very complex... and software development 
documentation isn't likely to be.

--Esther

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From: matt@softh.com                                    27-Sep-99 12:15:17
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Re: Netscape Communicator 4.61 - No problems here either!

From: Matt <matt@softh.com>

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I use Pro News for most my news group reading and use PMMail for my sites
procmail account. But I have setup 4.61 with messenger for my ISP email and it
works great so far...1000% faster than 4.04, which I gave up on. If you have
your headers on you would notice I am posting this from 4.61's news reader
which also seems to work great, again I had given up on 4.04's. As for
Navigator... so far its fantastic, very fast and not a hiccup so far with a
lot of new goodies to try.

Thanks you IBM/Netscape 4.61 Team for what at this stage looks like a
excellent product. I am curious as to whether a significant this was ported
with Open32 which I understand was the case with 4.04, or coded from scratch
as was 2.02. I have had problems with every app I have tried ported via
Open32, I suspect this on was not or the porting process has been improved as
I am still using the same Open32 code (fp5). Well thanks again for all your
work folks.

Matt
matt@softh.com

Jan Danielsson wrote:

> I use PMINews for news and PMMail for mail, so I no nothing about the
> Communicator news and mail clients. I do however know that the browser and
> editor works great here.
>
> Thanks to everyone involved!
>
>  /j

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           27-Sep-99 17:11:05
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:06:11, Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com> 
wrote:

> Start the download, click Cancel, right-click the URL 
> and select "Copy link location", then start a command prompt
> and paste the link for wget :-)
>  
> Csaba
>  

That works with normal downloads, but sometimes the site just returns 
a "code" to the web site, which then branches you to the download. The
only place that I have seen any indication of what the real address 
is, is in the download window. If that is incomplete (because of the 
"..." replacing part of it), you have no other way, that I know of, to
determine what the real address is, unless you want to start hacking 
the site.

Hope this clears up what is being discussed here.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           27-Sep-99 17:11:06
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:40:47, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)
wrote:

> Huh?  What the blue blazes does IBM care what, when or where I download
> with Netscape.  You think IBM keeps a record of everything you download?
>  
>  
> ----
> Jeff
> 

They do, when you download some of their stuff. They definetly do when
you download the 128 encrypted version of Netscape Communicator (which
is one of the places where I have seen the problem being discussed. 
Fortunately, there is enough of the web address displayed, so you CAN 
determine what you need to plug into AWget).

IBM cares, in the specific case of the 128 bit Netscape, because the 
US government wants to know WHO is getting military secret software, 
and WHERE it is going. IBM also want to know who is using their 
software (and ALL OS/2 users should make sure that they REGISTER the 
software, so that IBM might realize that OS/2 is in high demand).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                27-Sep-99 16:47:04
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: DeScribe Calendar Y2K?

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

Hi:

   I just found out that the DeScribe Calendar macro does not
work past 1999.  I looked at the macro, and it may be more than
trivial to change.  I searched the Internet, and did find a
macro that said it worked, but it does not.

   Does anybody know about, or have the resources to find or
update the Calendar macro?

thanks,
baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: icedancer-zamboni@ibm-zamboni.net                 27-Sep-99 17:49:07
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Photo Edits to remove noise?

From: icedancer-zamboni@ibm-zamboni.net (Ken Walter)

I have tried Photo>Graphics and PhotoMagic.
Neither seems to do a very good job of removing noise (random sized 
orangish specks) 
from a color photo.  Any suggestions?


Ken Walter

Remove -zamboni to reply
All the above is hearsay and the opinion of no one in particular

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           27-Sep-99 17:25:14
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:57:59, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)
wrote:

>  
> Except that, invariably, the URL is abbreviated in the download box
> because it is to long to fit.  Any way to reliably determine what it is?
>  

Just found this little gem, from another post by Rich Walsh:
====================================================
However, I just learned of a work-around:  after the d/l starts,
restore the focus to the browser window, then press Ctrl-Alt-T.
A window showing your connections appears, including the complete
URL for the d/l.  You can use DT to drag the *entire* contents of
this window to your editor or DTClip's viewer.  From there, drag
just the URL text to awget.
====================================================
For those who don't know, DT stands for DragText, a neat program 
available from the usual places.

Don't know if Ctrl-Alt-T works, but it might be worth trying...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 27-Sep-99 17:27:15
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Re: Netscape for OS/2, 4.61 GA Release

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <9y3No3D24mDV-pn2-XDNh0kZfvzds@CEIP-T-006-p-158-2.tmns.net.au>,
babnospam@nospambigpond.com writes:
>> where could one obtain "Courier New" ? If it renders better, seems like it 
>> might be worth the download, or even add it to the Communicator site ?
>> 
>> --
>> Hrad ngravvrd
>
>As someone said, it comes with Lotus Smart Suite. Also with Star 
>Office.  The font called COUR.TTF
>in Windows 98 is also Courier New and that is the one I installed from
>my Windows Partition via the Font Palette.
>
>bab

easy enough, thank you. Still might suggest to the Netscapes-in-Charge :
Courier New works better than Courier Old, how about adding it to the
download package? Can never have too many fonts :-) 


--
Hrad ngravvrd

remove trees, see forest

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From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com                             28-Sep-99 03:08:25
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Re: GA for download?: Netscape - Version 4.61 [en] - 990915

From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com (taiQ)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:25:16, jpedone_no_spam@flash.net thought aloud:

> In <37EE2E75.4A3901C2@dpsolutions.com>, Jerry Tabeling
<jtabeling@dpsolutions.com> writes:
> >comm46xr.exe is gone. Anyone know where I can find it?
> 
> It's not gone but it is invisible via FTP.  Use the web page to begin 
> the download.  You'll see it download from 
> username:password@somewhere/file
> 
> Use your FTP client to connect to somewhere.  Login as username using 
> password.  Switch to binary mode and get file - note, the file and the 
> directory it's in will not be visible from an FTP client but is there.

Or search for the file at http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/ and get it 
elsewhere, no questions about the colour of your passport asked.


Rgds,
-- 
 taiQ

		[this space is intentionally blank]

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From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com                             28-Sep-99 03:09:17
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Re: ProNews bugs?

From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com (taiQ)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:29:54, 
Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette) thought 
aloud:

> Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:28:36, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) a crit:
> 
> > On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 03:33:36, Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca 
> > (Michel A Goyette) wrote:
> 
> > > The point follows on the next line.

.. and emptiness came.

> > WOW!! After all this time, an undocumented feature. 
> 
> 	Well, well, well.  Stay away from the lonely dot.  ;-)

How fascinating.  :-)

Before reporting this to the developers as a bug I better try it too..

  .
 .

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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  27-Sep-99 19:05:29
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Another reason that Photo>Graphics doesn't answer

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

There is yet another possibility for the failure of TrueSpectra to send 
back the keys.

I downloaded the program, sent in the required request (with a blank 
subject line, as people have pointed out is necessary), and got back the 
keys next time I logged on to my mailbox, about twenty minutes later. But 
the email in which they were contained was addressed to a username that I 
have never used, and that means nothing to me; I received it nevertheless, 
because ANY username will get to me in this domain. If my email address 
were a normal one, the note would never have reached me, and might have 
been bounced back to the sender, which doesn't read it, and so would have 
been lost in Cyberheaven forever.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net                 27-Sep-99 12:27:18
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net

In <uuneevfargpbzhxpbhx.fiqr7p0.pminews@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk>, on 09/27/99 
   at 07:14 PM, "Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk> said:

>And what a fine job they've made of holding onto their super secret
>software:

It's not IBM.  It's the silly gov't.  The gov't is only going to go after
IBM if IBM distributes the 128 bit version.  IBM is just following the
rules.  Why IBM continues to make it so easy for NS to be patched is a
subject for another discussion.

Steven

--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Levine <steve53removethis@earthlink.net>  MR2/ICE #10183 Warp4/FP11
---------------------------------------------------------------


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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               27-Sep-99 12:51:04
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: CD file compare utiltiy

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

There's a native OS/2 program out there that does a file by file compare of
an entire CD after you burn it versas the original to make sure the CD is
okay.   It's a command line tool and works very fast.   I used it once and
lost it.

Does anybody know where I can find it?

Appreciate it.


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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      27-Sep-99 20:59:11
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Re: More Throbbers From Warp City!

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <37EEFE5F.DA035F62@WarpCity.com>,
  Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:

<snip>

Haven't we gone over this before Tim? Once is an announcement, twice is
SPAM.

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: dholmes@trellis.net                               27-Sep-99 17:13:01
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Corel file converter

From: Dan Holmes <dholmes@trellis.net>

Does anyone know of a program that will import/convert Corel
4 or 5 files as bmps/jpegs or anything.  How about PMView i
have never used it but would buy it if it did this?
-- 
-------------------
Dan Holmes
Integrated Visual Systems, Inc.
voice 704-847-3379
fax   704-847-4655
mailto:dholmes@trellis.net
work -> http://www.ivsi.com
play -> http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hollow/3097

Insert Disclaimer:
Most of the time i think for myself, at least that is what
they tell me.

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From: bobfrank@media.com                                27-Sep-99 20:07:15
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Re: Ibm.net announce was (Re: GA for download?:)

From: bobfrank@media.com (Bob Frank)

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 21:57:20 GMT, jsjones@selectric.net wrote:


>    2. Worldnet does not support the IBM.net dialer and (as I recall from
news
>       group messages past) is difficult or impossible to use with DOIP.

As a former Worldnet user and, for the time being, a former OS/2 user
I can tell you that there is no problem using DOIP with Worldnet.
Unfortunately, I can't tell you exactly what needs to be done.  I know
there is one or more web pages with very specific directions.

Try this one:
http://www.wurd.com/wurd/register/

or if you want to go directly to the dialer instructions
http://www.wurd.com/wurd/software/dialers/os2.htm

Bob Frank
missing OS/2 every day.

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From: blackdeath@13softhome.net                         27-Sep-99 20:20:14
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Re: Two e-mail addresses?

From: blackdeath@13softhome.net (Stewart Honsberger)

On 27 Sep 1999 13:06:58 GMT, M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn wrote:
>Isn't this the fourth time within a year that you claim that a company is no
>longer in business or not supporting their products, while at the same time
>others have no problems at all reaching them and getting support?

I'm not sure what he's talking about, but last time I saw someone claim
that "the makers of PMMail" went out of business, their website still
looked as it always has. Still taking registrations, still working on
the next version.

I say you should always get your news directly from the source.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
blackdeath@13softhome.net  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  27-Sep-99 20:52:21
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Re: ProNews bugs?

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:09:34, pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com (taiQ) wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:29:54, 
> Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette) thought 
> aloud:
> 
> > Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:28:36, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) a crit:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 03:33:36, Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca 

> > > (Michel A Goyette) wrote:
> > 
> > > > The point follows on the next line.
> 
> ... and emptiness came.
> 
> > > WOW!! After all this time, an undocumented feature. 
> > 
> > 	Well, well, well.  Stay away from the lonely dot.  ;-)
> 
> How fascinating.  :-)
> 
> Before reporting this to the developers as a bug I better try it too..
> 
>   .
>  .

You see? It worked.

But to report it to the developers, I fear you will need the services of a 
medium. For all the connection they have with the world of live users (that
paid them), they might as well be dead.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: TheCentralScrutinizer.163@pobox.com               27-Sep-99 20:38:24
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:14
Subj: Re: PMMail

From: TheCentralScrutinizer.163@pobox.com ()

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:07:45 -0400, Alan Boritz <aboritz@cybernex.net> wrote:
>In article <37ee90cd_2@news.calweb.com>, John M Price PhD
<jmprice@calweb.com> wrote:
>>In comp.os.os2.apps article <RGl73gBhD26a092yn@cybernex.net> Alan Boritz
<aboritz@cybernex.net> wrote:
>>: In article <7sktrg$ehl$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian
Johnston) wrote:
>>:>I had a bit of a gripe to them about the timed fetch bug, and they said a
new
>>:>release would be out soon. That was a month or so ago.
>>
>>: Forget it, they seem to be out of business.
>>
>>Why are you spreading this ill informed crap?
>
>It's not "ill informed," and far from "crap."

It is complete crap.  It is post road mailer that left the business, not
pmmail. 


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                27-Sep-99 17:33:03
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> said:
>I was on NPR, looking for a file, found it, and even though my apps are set
>correctly, the RAM file was never started.  I simply got a notice that I
could
>get the real player.  I *have* the realplay file, in the proper place, etc.
>etc. etc.

>What gives here?  Is there a quick fix?

Same here with RA, RAM, RPM and RM.  What's up?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: jmprice@calweb.com                                27-Sep-99 13:52:29
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com>

I was on NPR, looking for a file, found it, and even though my apps are
set correctly, the RAM file was never started.  I simply got a notice that
I could get the real player.  I *have* the realplay file, in the proper
place, etc. etc. etc.

What gives here?  Is there a quick fix?


-- 
John M. Price, PhD                                     jmprice@calweb.com
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. 
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

If you love someone,
set them free.
If they come back,
set them on fire.
   -  George Carlin

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From: osric@apk.net                                     27-Sep-99 16:44:12
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Vector to raster app/utility?

From: Tarquelne <osric@apk.net>

Any _good_ OS/2 (or Win3.1 that can be run under OS/2) app/utility
for converting vector graphic to bmp/jpeg/etc?

I'm using CorelDraw5 under OS/2, but need to get the resulting
drawings (.cdr CorelDraw's format) into clear, sharp slightly smaller
bmp, gif, or jpeg images.

Currently I'm saving the CorelDraw 5 files as EPS files, taking them
to a Win95 machine and using Adobe Photoshop to convert the EPS to
jpeg.  It works, after a fashion, but it's awkward and the results
aren't as clear or sharp as I'd like.

CorelDraw5's own ability to save files as raster images, like Lotus
Freelance Graphic's, is very poor.
                                            Tarquelne
                                       <osric@apk.net>
        I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
                                  ************************
Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
___________________________________________________________
"I'm an Enlightened Anarchist. . . if everyone were as enlightened as I,
anarchy would work."
 - John Hamilton


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          27-Sep-99 21:23:26
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: DeScribe Calendar Y2K?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:47:09, baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky) a 
crit dans un message:

> Hi:
> 
>    I just found out that the DeScribe Calendar macro does not
> work past 1999.  I looked at the macro, and it may be more than
> trivial to change.  I searched the Internet, and did find a
> macro that said it worked, but it does not.
> 
>    Does anybody know about, or have the resources to find or
> update the Calendar macro?

I just looked at it and it doesn't appear to be very difficult, but maybe 
I'm missing something subtle? (I often miss subtleties, I've discovered in 
my spousal relationships.)

I don't use this (usually using IBMWorks to print blank calendars instead, 
and I hope that works Y2K) and will set it to my TODO list. It's not at the
top of that list, right now, I'm afraid, but luckily we've got a smidgeon 
of time before it becomes critical?


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: altman@sfu.ca                                     27-Sep-99 22:06:06
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: different user profiles in NC4.61?

From: altman@sfu.ca (Tymoteusz Altman)

"Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk> writes:
>On 26 Sep 1999 19:53:55 GMT, Tymoteusz Altman wrote:

>:>I just installed Netscape Comm 4.61. When I first opened it, it asked
>:>me to create a user profile. However I can't seem to find the profile
>:>manager to create more profiles for my other accounts. Is there no
>:>way to do this in this version?

>There's a User Profile Manager in your Netscape Communicator 4.61
>folder...?.. isn't there ?

Well that's what I expected to see...but there isn't one. But maybe the
install didn't work the way it was supposed to. I didn't install into
a new folder. I installed it on top of my NS2.02 folder called "Netscape".
Consequently NC4.61 programms are in the Netscape/Programs folder. However
I still don't see the User Profile Manager anywhere. 

Should I reinstall NC4.61 into a different folder?

thanks,

tym

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From: knuttle@WorldNet.att.net                          27-Sep-99 22:13:25
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Ibm.net to worldnet

From: knuttle@WorldNet.att.net

In <JHX73kDg6t9X090yn@ibm.net>, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) writes:
In article <4zbH3.1392$B51.21960@ha1>, jsjones@selectric.net wrote:
>I did find info on the IBM.net pages that explained more. What I believe to
>be the case is this:
>
>    1. If you have been identified as a "comsumer user" by AT&T, based on the 
info
>       you provided when you signed up for Advantis/IBM.net, you will be
switched
>       to AT&T Worldnet, unless you take action otherwise.
>
>    2. Worldnet does not support the IBM.net dialer and (as I recall from
news
>       group messages past) is difficult or impossible to use with DOIP.
>
I am currently using ATT worldnet.  I am running OS/2 3.0, the bonus pack
dialer from 3.0, 
and Netscape 2.02.   I have been running this configuration for several years. 
 I would be 
glad to share my Dialer configuration with any one that will e-mail me.   I am 
also
running the IBM Bonus pack Newsreader/2.

knuttle@worldnet.att.net

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From: khalsa@ibm.net                                    27-Sep-99 18:25:09
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Crash:Powerquest drive image 2.01

From: Satnam Singh <khalsa@ibm.net>


John Hong wrote:

> Satnam Singh <khalsa@ibm.net> writes:
>
> >I am unable to create a disk image of my OS/2 boot partition (275MB
> >hpfs) due to consistent crash at 98% complete.  I have been able to
> >create images of win95 fat partition, hpfs program partition, and hpfs
> >maintenance boot partition.
>
>         You have written here that you are using Drive Image 2.01, have
> you tried the 2.02 update?

My understanding is the 2.02 update is applicable to WinNT only, which I
don't use.  I'll check again.

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          27-Sep-99 21:30:01
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:08:06, pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com (taiQ) a crit dans un 
message:

snipsies
> 
> I've tried making a copy of the Connections folder and the REXX 
> scripts for creating another of those, nothing has worked. As a matter
> a  fact, even copying a hierachy of URL folders into the original 
> Connections doesn't make the URL folders "nested"; instead, a new 
> folder is always opened.

That's fundamental to OS/2. Nothing is able to open in the same window, 
except, as I and you recall, one of the OD settings.

> 
> I'd really like having my URL folders opening up in a view that 
> displays both the "directories" and the URLs themselves (the Macintosh
> way), but I'm growing old trying to find a way of achieving that under
> OS/2. 

You should try FileStar/2, then. You can see the directories in one window,
and the contents of the selected directory in a "files" window. In the case
of URLs, you see the "Name" field, and hitting Alt-Enter on any (or 
multiple) selected URLs, opens them nicely.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          27-Sep-99 21:45:19
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:59:57, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) a 
crit dans un message:

> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:23:35, "Jan Danielsson" 
> <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com> wrote:
> 
> | I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS and
PM)
> | in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use WordPro, so
I
> | want to make PDF:s from my documents. Is there any way to do this
> | 'automatically'? I don't mind going via some other format (ie. Post
script)
> | if needed.
> 
> I'd rather see you use HTML... not because it's inherently printer 
> friendly, but because most modern word processors can read it. 

(I'll accept the other side in this argument, and try not to go postal in 
the process.)

HTML produces *horrible* printer results as a "universal" document format 
tool. 

Every browser prints it differently, page breaks occur seemingly in 
conjunction with a random number generator built into Netscape, graphics 
may (40%-) or may not (60%+) screw things up, and it is far too dependent 
on the fonts installed on each local machine *plus* the variables of how 
the browser is set to handle fonts.

On the other hand, PDF (by design) prints identically on every machine, 
every printer, everywhere. (If "distilled" correctly, that is.)

I'm limiting this strong stance to distributing "read-only" documents, of 
course. If somebody's got further editing to do, forget everything I've 
said.


> Alternatively, you can use RTF as a lingua franca, as long as the 
> documents aren't very complex... and software development 
> documentation isn't likely to be.

Even on older OS/2 programs, RTF is *not* handled the same coming in/out of
each. For something fairly linear, like software documentation, I'd prefer 
straight non-lineprinter ASCII text, no page breaks, no page headers, just 
paragraphs of streaming text. That will indeed import, view, and print in 
any WP, DTP, or "programmer's" basic text editor to produce readable and 
printable copy.



Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org                     27-Sep-99 22:17:00
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org (Luko Willms)

     Am  27.09.99
schrieb  Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com (Jan Danielsson)
    auf  /COMP/OS/OS2/MISC
     in  wnaqnavryffbasnyhaznvygryvnpbz.fipdvy0.pminews@news1.telia.com
  ueber  Produce PDF?

JD> I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS
JD> and PM) in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use
JD> WordPro, so I want to make PDF:s from my documents.

   I would prefer if you would not produce PDFs, but RTF (Rich Text  
Format). I guess that WordPro can export to this format. It is text  
based, contains the formatting tags, and can be imported by all (or at  
least most) PC word processing programs.

   I have made bad experiences with PDF. I can't get Acrobat Reader to  
print a PDF duplex, and even less to print booklets using the OS/2  
Postscript printer driver. Acrobat Reader completely ignores the  
settings of the printer driver.

   I asked in various forums for a solution -- nope. I called Adobe,  
and they would not even listen -- I was told that Acrobat Reader is  
not a supported product. It is being given away to sell Acrobat  
Distiller and people are left alone with its problems.

   So I prefer all people not to produce PDF, but RTF or some other  
format which can be imported in, say, StarWriter (StarOffice).

Yours,
Lko Willms
/--------- L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org -- Alle Rechte vorbehalten --

"Das Volk, das ein anderes Volk unterjocht, schmiedet seine eigenen
Ketten."                         - Karl Marx           (1. Januar 1870)

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From: milindr@bellsouth.net                             27-Sep-99 22:42:18
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 14:30:20, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> Milind Rao wrote:
> 
> > Jeffrey, any chance of using the power of the WPS, to store per site
> > settings like fonts, disabling graphics etc in URL objects?  So that I
> > can drag these objects to the browser and not have to constantly dick
> > around with these options as I surf?
> 
> As far as I know, the Workplace Shell WPUrl object class
> doesn't have those kind of settings.

Some such as load Graphics are there.  I meant subclassing it to add 
these properties.  The URL object has alot of potential.  
Unfortunately, it's never been used.
 
> Right now, though, you really can't expect new features
> like that to be added to current product, anyway.

Do you mean to 4.6 GA or ever in the future?

Regards
Milind

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From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net                         27-Sep-99 22:42:08
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: different user profiles in NC4.61?

From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net

In <7sopok$86d$1@morgoth.sfu.ca>, altman@sfu.ca (Tymoteusz Altman) writes:
>"Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk> writes:
>>On 26 Sep 1999 19:53:55 GMT, Tymoteusz Altman wrote:
>

>
>Well that's what I expected to see...but there isn't one. But maybe the
>install didn't work the way it was supposed to. I didn't install into
>a new folder. I installed it on top of my NS2.02 folder called "Netscape".
>Consequently NC4.61 programms are in the Netscape/Programs folder. However
>I still don't see the User Profile Manager anywhere. 
>
>Should I reinstall NC4.61 into a different folder?
>


Too much work - just make a program object for netscape.exe with these 
parameters:

-profile_manager -l en_US

 
J. Pedone
jpedone@flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
 
Run? Nothing runs in Windows. Maybe a brisk walk, but never run.
As easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               27-Sep-99 14:45:05
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: More Throbbers From Warp City!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote:

>   Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Haven't we gone over this before Tim? Once is an announcement, twice is
> SPAM.

Why would it be spam?  We're not selling these Throbbers,
we're giving them away to the public - even to you, a non-Warp
City member.  All Throbbers are available on the public side
of Warp City.

In my first message we only had a few Throbbers available
and invited OS/2 users to send their own in for online credit
for public distribution.

Now, some 24 hours later, we have 'more than a few' and all
are quite clever and very well done.  We hope your Throbber
is just as nice (and if not, feel free to download a Warp City
Throbber!).

OS/2 users are some of the most creative folks you'll ever
find and they are sending their creations in for others to enjoy.

Yes, they can be individually uploaded to the familiar FTP sites
but users would have to download and install them to see them
in action.  At Warp City you can see what they look like prior
to installation and you get a set of easy set up instructions.
Some of Warp City's Throbbers will not be found elsewhere.

Of course, we could withdraw them from public view and
download and offer them only to Warp City members but
let's see how the wind blows, shall we?

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"


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From: milindr@bellsouth.net                             27-Sep-99 22:49:01
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Saving a Word document on peer OS/2

From: milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)

I have an OS/2 machine and an NT machine on a peer setup.  If I try to
save a Word document on a shared drive on the OS/2 machine, it takes 
ages (3-4 minutes) for a 1 page document.  WI have tried various save 
options with no luck.  Saving the file on the NT machine and copying 
it to the OS/2 machine after I'm done is very fast.  But I'd like to 
know why this happens.

Regards
Milind

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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           27-Sep-99 17:38:00
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: different user profiles in NC4.61?

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Tymoteusz Altman wrote:

> Well that's what I expected to see...but there isn't one. But maybe the
> install didn't work the way it was supposed to. I didn't install into
> a new folder. I installed it on top of my NS2.02 folder called "Netscape".
> Consequently NC4.61 programms are in the Netscape/Programs folder. However
> I still don't see the User Profile Manager anywhere.

There isn't a separate executable program for the Profile Manager,
so you won't see one in the Netscape/Programs folder.  However,
a Netscape Communicator 4.61 folder should have been created
on your desktop (as opposed to the Netscape/Programs folder that
represents the installed files on your drive), and in there you should
find a User Profile Manager object that will launch the Netscape
executable with the -PROFILE_MANAGER parameter.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: bhubleybhubley@home.com                           27-Sep-99 22:48:22
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: "Brad Hubley" <bhubleybhubley@home.com>

Saw your post in the newsgroups.  I finally figured out how to get Real Audio
working with my system.  The problem that I was experiencing revolved around
my SB 32 PnP sound card.  I had forgotten to install sound for Win-OS2
sessions.  I also setup Real Audio as an Application in Comm 4.61 with the
following:

Mime type: audio/x-pn-realaudio
Extensions: ra, ram, rv, rm, rpm
Application: x:\Real\Player\realplay.exe

HTH,
Brad


On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:33:06 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

>John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> said:
>>I was on NPR, looking for a file, found it, and even though my apps are set
>>correctly, the RAM file was never started.  I simply got a notice that I
could
>>get the real player.  I *have* the realplay file, in the proper place, etc.
>>etc. etc.
>
>>What gives here?  Is there a quick fix?
>
>Same here with RA, RAM, RPM and RM.  What's up?
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
>
>

____________________________________________________
  Windoze 95 @ work 'cause I have to,
  OS/2 Warp 4 @ home 'cause I want to!

  Visit my Cable Modems and OS/2 Warp 4 website @
  http://members.home.net/bhubley/cableintro.html
____________________________________________________

  Please remove 1 bhubley from my address before replying


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From: mikus@bga.com                                     27-Sep-99 17:34:29
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Make your own throbber

From: mikus@bga.com (Mikus Grinbergs)

In article <37EE5538.A06805A7@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>,
"Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Look around these newsgroups for the threads on
> specifying your own throbber.  You can set one up
> to be whatever size you like.

Thank you.  That turned out to be the answer.

My problem was that on my Netscape window, the throbber as shown
was too small.  In another post, Jeffrey S. Kobal had written:
>
> ... the toolbar resizes to accomodate the height of
> the bitmap for the throbber.

So I created a twenty-something high throbber, and specified it
in the "toolbar.logo.win_small_file" preference.  Then I added
user_pref("custtoolbar.Browser.Navigation_Toolbar.position", 1)
in order to put the location toolbar first (so *it* would show
the throbber).  Now my NS 4.61 throbber is both larger and sits
on the same toolbar as it did in NS 2.02.  I'm satisfied.

Thanks Jeffrey,  mikus

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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           27-Sep-99 17:59:19
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Milind Rao wrote:

> > Right now, though, you really can't expect new features
> > like that to be added to current product, anyway.
>
> Do you mean to 4.6 GA or ever in the future?

I mean to the 4.61 release.  I can't speak for any future releases,
of course.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           27-Sep-99 17:30:12
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: different user profiles in NC4.61?

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>


Tymoteusz Altman wrote:

>
>Should I reinstall NC4.61 into a different folder?

Nah, no need to. All you do to invoke Profile Manager is type NETSCAPE
-PROFILE_MANAGER

You must not have Netcape running when you do this.

So create an icon to do this.

Mike Kaply

IBM

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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           27-Sep-99 17:31:17
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

What is the name of the EXE you are using to launch REALPLAYER?

It needs to either be blank (WPS) or be REALPLAY.EXE

(Netscape licensing stuff)

Mike Kaply
IBM

John M Price PhD wrote:

>I was on NPR, looking for a file, found it, and even though my apps are
>set correctly, the RAM file was never started.  I simply got a notice that
>I could get the real player.  I *have* the realplay file, in the proper
>place, etc. etc. etc.
>
>What gives here?  Is there a quick fix?
>
>--
>John M. Price, PhD                                     jmprice@calweb.com
>Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
>  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
>Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
>                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1
>
>If you love someone,
>set them free.
>If they come back,
>set them on fire.
>   -  George Carlin

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From: mchasson@ibm.net                                  27-Sep-99 19:19:18
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: My Last Question on Netscape 4.61

From: mchasson@ibm.net

Some where in loading up and uninstalling and installing over the various
versions of the program, I have lost the ability to "ADD BOOKMARK".   
This is not a serious disability since I can still "File Bookmark".  I am
just curious as to where it went and how can I find it again.


-- 
----------------------------------------------------
------
Monroe Chasson
mchasson@ibm.net
-----------------------------------------------------------
MR2ICE reg#51 

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From: Spammers@Bite.Me                                  27-Sep-99 22:43:16
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: More Throbbers From Warp City!

From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me>

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Hash: SHA1

Cool!  I should've looked before asking.  Thanks!

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:25:40 -0500, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

>
>"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote:
>
>> Anybody make the classic WebExplorer surfing logo?
>
>That was the one that Mike originally posted!
>
>Jeffrey S. Kobal
>IBM Corporation
>Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team
>
>

Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          27-Sep-99 23:33:12
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:05:35, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger) a 
crit dans un message:
sneep
> 
> So the question remains:  What magical incantation is required to get
> Netscape to show me the full URL of the file being downloaded?

I used DragText and dragged mine off the download info window, above the 
thermometer. Also try the Ctrl-Alt-T popup and see if it's there.

The lastest NS build trucates long URLs uselessly, however. DragText used 
to be able to drag off a perfect URL, even if it was too long to fit in the
window space allotted. The new build truncates it before pushing it to that
window, making it useless.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            27-Sep-99 22:27:20
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Netscape for OS/2, 4.61 GA Release

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <c1.01.2SLF5t$09b@hamei.pacbell.net>, hamei@pacbell.net writes:
>In <9y3No3D24mDV-pn2-XDNh0kZfvzds@CEIP-T-006-p-158-2.tmns.net.au>,
babnospam@nospambigpond.com writes:
>>> where could one obtain "Courier New" ? If it renders better, seems like it
>>> might be worth the download, or even add it to the Communicator site ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hrad ngravvrd
>>
>>As someone said, it comes with Lotus Smart Suite. Also with Star
>>Office.  The font called COUR.TTF
>>in Windows 98 is also Courier New and that is the one I installed from
>>my Windows Partition via the Font Palette.
>>
>>bab
>
>easy enough, thank you. Still might suggest to the Netscapes-in-Charge :
>Courier New works better than Courier Old, how about adding it to the
>download package? Can never have too many fonts :-)
>

Courier New and other TrueType fonts ship with Warp 4. Look for *.TTF
files in your x:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM directory.  All can made
available to OS/2 with the Font Palette found in System Setup.

Also I highly recommend FreeType:  http://www.freetype.org.  And
MickeySoft has a number of TrueType fonts available for free download.
Don't recall the exact URL.  Start at http://www.microsoft.com.


----
Jeff

   I have a spelling checker: it came with my PC.
   It plainly marks four my revue, mistakes I cannot sea.
   I've run this program threw it, I'm sure your pleased too no.
   Its letter perfect in it's weigh.  My checker tolled me sew.

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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            27-Sep-99 22:05:17
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-U8cBkrIlxdCh@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug
Bissett) writes:
>On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:40:47, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)
>wrote:
>
>> Huh?  What the blue blazes does IBM care what, when or where I download
>> with Netscape.  You think IBM keeps a record of everything you download?
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Jeff
>>
>
>They do, when you download some of their stuff. They definetly do when
>you download the 128 encrypted version of Netscape Communicator (which
>is one of the places where I have seen the problem being discussed.
>Fortunately, there is enough of the web address displayed, so you CAN
>determine what you need to plug into AWget).
>
>IBM cares, in the specific case of the 128 bit Netscape, because the
>US government wants to know WHO is getting military secret software,
>and WHERE it is going. IBM also want to know who is using their
>software (and ALL OS/2 users should make sure that they REGISTER the
>software, so that IBM might realize that OS/2 is in high demand).
>

I realize that.  But this is only one instance of a general problem
whereby the target URL is hidden from the end user and only becomes
partially visible is the "Saving..."  box.  If the problem was limited
to only IBM sites then it would not be a big deal.  However, it occurs
all time all over the Net.  Arms trading and product registration not
withstanding.  Usually it is because of some pretty button or picture or
some such that is resolved to a URL by some magic between Netscape and
the server.

So the question remains:  What magical incantation is required to get
Netscape to show me the full URL of the file being downloaded?


----
Jeff

   I have a spelling checker: it came with my PC.
   It plainly marks four my revue, mistakes I cannot sea.
   I've run this program threw it, I'm sure your pleased too no.
   Its letter perfect in it's weigh.  My checker tolled me sew.

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From: drowelf@nospamvnet.net                            27-Sep-99 18:54:01
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: "Eric A. Erickson" <drowelf@nospamvnet.net>

I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about requiring
Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years 
with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
notebook. 

Help!


Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.    		- Internet:  drowelf@vnet.net
IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer 	- IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)
IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer
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From: JHB@jita.demon.co.uk                              27-Sep-99 23:15:11
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: JHB@jita.demon.co.uk (Jim Backus)

I've seen printing problems with .pdf files - on a NT network so it's not
unique to OS/2.  PDF files are excellent if you want to produce documents that
you don't want to be readily modified - e.g. copyright material.  If it is to
be used by others I support the RTF / HTML arguments.

In message <7PgARpuHwIB@lf155.link-f.rhein-main.de> -
L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org (Luko Willms) writes:
:>
:>     Am  27.09.99
:>schrieb  Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com (Jan Danielsson)
:>    auf  /COMP/OS/OS2/MISC
:>     in  wnaqnavryffbasnyhaznvygryvnpbz.fipdvy0.pminews@news1.telia.com
:>  ueber  Produce PDF?
:>
:>JD> I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS
:>JD> and PM) in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use
:>JD> WordPro, so I want to make PDF:s from my documents.
:>
:>   I would prefer if you would not produce PDFs, but RTF (Rich Text  
:>Format). I guess that WordPro can export to this format. It is text  
:>based, contains the formatting tags, and can be imported by all (or at  
:>least most) PC word processing programs.
:>
:>   I have made bad experiences with PDF. I can't get Acrobat Reader to  
:>print a PDF duplex, and even less to print booklets using the OS/2  
:>Postscript printer driver. Acrobat Reader completely ignores the  
:>settings of the printer driver.
:>
:>   I asked in various forums for a solution -- nope. I called Adobe,  
:>and they would not even listen -- I was told that Acrobat Reader is  
:>not a supported product. It is being given away to sell Acrobat  
:>Distiller and people are left alone with its problems.
:>
:>   So I prefer all people not to produce PDF, but RTF or some other  
:>format which can be imported in, say, StarWriter (StarOffice).
:>
:>Yours,
:>Lko Willms
:>/--------- L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org -- Alle Rechte vorbehalten --
:>
:>"Das Volk, das ein anderes Volk unterjocht, schmiedet seine eigenen
:>Ketten."                         - Karl Marx           (1. Januar 1870)



Jim Backus - Electronic Systems Engineer - OS/2 user by choice
 - member of Amnesty International
 - supporter of Proportional Representation
Bona fide  replies to jimb (at) jita dot demon dot co dot uk

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                27-Sep-99 20:06:12
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 21:33:15
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

> I finally figured out how to get Real Audio
>working with my system.  The problem that I was experiencing revolved around
my
>SB 32 PnP sound card.  I had forgotten to install sound for Win-OS2 sessions.

Thanks.  I had RealAudio working and had gone through all that Win/OS2 sound
stuff.  It looks like the 4.61 GA broke something.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   28-Sep-99 00:19:20
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: Color adjustment?

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <37efb1a6_2@news1.prserv.net> - Wm D Loughman@MYHOSTNAME.foo.bar ()
writes:
:>
:>
:>In article <37EE6BD1.5E86@ibm.net>, Wm D Loughman wrote:
:>>Earlier, I sent this to comp.os.os2.bugs, and got no response.  Trying
:>>here now:
:>>
:>>Bouncing 'round through printer properties, I reach two tabs:
:>>
:>>Printer icon -> Properties -> Printer Driver -> Default Driver ->
:>>        Properties -> Default Job Properties -> Color (tab)/HSV (tab)
:>>
:>>Here I'm allowed to set a bunch of printer properties.
:>>
:>>I see no evidence, after say "Print Screen" (it is enabled), that there
:>>is any effect at all on the printed page.  There is nothing (??) about
:>>this in on-line help.
:>>
:>>Do these adjustments _have_ an effect?  How do I actually get it?  Where
:>>is the documentation?  Am I just missing something?
:>>
:>>Warp-4, FixPak-6; my printer is an H-P DeskJet 680C.  I want to reduce
:>>the 'saturation' of a printed page, also the percent of red color.  TIA.
:>>
:>>
:>>WD "Bill" Loughman
:>>Berkeley, California  USA
:>>wdlkhl@ibm.net
:>>

Hello Bill

I used to have this printer and the only way I could ever change output
quality through the driver was by adjusting the DPI setting. I surmise that
the colour adjustments are not enabled in the 680c. To reduce the amount of
colour on the page I always had to adjust the actual picture to be printed via
a graphics program (e.g. PMView). I was never very happy with the colour
output of the 680c. Sorry I can't offer more help.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net


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From: wsonna@ibm.net                                    28-Sep-99 00:14:15
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Free Pascal installation problem

From: wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna)

Anybody gotten Free Pascal to work under OS/2?  I seem to be getting 
nowhere fast.

After downloading and unzipping, Readme says:

"Start the install program INSTALL.EXE and follow the instructions.

Don't forget to set the path as mentioned by the install program.

To test the compiler, change to the demo directory of the compiler
and type
        ppc386 hello          or          ppos2 hello    (for EMX 
version)
        hello "

Sounds easy enough.

My path statement says:

SET PATH=E:\MPTN\BIN;E:\IBMCOM;E:\programs\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM; 
E:\IBMLAN\NETPROG;E:\MUGLIB; E:\OS2;E:\OS2\SYSTEM; E:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;
E:\OS2\INSTALL; E:\;E:\OS2\MDOS;E:\OS2\APPS;
E:\Java11\rmi-iiop\bin; E:\JAVA11\BIN; E:\javaos2\bin; 
E:\MMOS2;E:\NSC; e:\tcpip\bin ;e:\tcpip\pcomos2;
E:\TCPIP\UMAIL; E:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\BIN; E:\programs\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT 
;E:\programs\LOTUS
W4\ORGANIZE; E:\programs\LOTUSW4\APPROACH; E:\programs\LOTUSW4\FLG; 
E:\programs\LOTUSW4\WORDPRO; e:\PROGRAMS\INCHARGE; 
e:\programs\unix\emx\bin;c:\pp\bin\os2

After rebooting, the commandline session goes like this:

  [C:\PP\SOURCE\DEMO]ppos2 hello
  Fatal: Can't compile unit SYSOS2, no sources available

  [C:\PP\SOURCE\DEMO]

Am I doing something wrong?  It sure looks like a path problem.

If anyone has experience with this program, I'd be grateful for any 
wisdom they's be willing to share.

William Sonna
wsonna@ibm.net


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From: maxikins@os2bbs.com                               27-Sep-99 23:38:05
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:31:35, Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> 
wrote:

> What is the name of the EXE you are using to launch REALPLAYER?
> 
> It needs to either be blank (WPS) or be REALPLAY.EXE
> 
> (Netscape licensing stuff)
> 
> Mike Kaply
> IBM
> 
It doesn't work.  When I put realplay.exe in there, I got the Netscape
message asking if I wanted to download RealPlayer.  I got it to work 
when someone e-mailed me the text of a rexx command that takes the 
file and directly feeds it to RealPlayer.

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From: uno@40th.com                                      28-Sep-99 00:32:09
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: uno@40th.com (uno@40th.com)

Used to be said that the tmp=/temp= directory had files in it that
should be deleted, when this share thing comes up.  Never saw it
with 6.0c.

Eric A. Erickson? (drowelf@nospamvnet.net?) wrote (Mon, 27 Sep 1999 18:54:02 -
>Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years 
 '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
 Corne1 Huth  -  http://40th.com/
 Bullet database engines/servers 3.1  Win32-WinCE-OS2-Linux+

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          27-Sep-99 23:36:20
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:16:21, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger) a 
crit dans un message:

snip
> >
> 
> I have Dynamic Fonts enabled but it is entirely possible that I've never
> visited a site that used them.  Would you please post a URL known to use
> Dynamic Fonts so that I can see what happens?

In Netscape, pull down Help | About Font Displayers and follow the links. 
Especially to the Bitstream site, which is the leader in dynamic font 
technology.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: dtander@agts.net                                  28-Sep-99 00:58:02
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: I'm late:  was: Re: Another reason that Photo>Graphics doesn't answ

From: dtander@agts.net (David T. Anderson)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:37:22, kentuckybob@att.net wrote:

> I missed the beginning of this thread.  Just what is this program anyway
> that it should cause such a ruckus?
> 
Photo>Graphics is an OS/2 graphics package...a fairly good one too.  
Recently its developer has decided to stop upgrading and supporting 
it, and is getting out of the OS/2 market entirely.  Rather than 
withdraw the program from general availability, Truespectra is 
offering the program for download along with a free licence...you just
have to email for a password to register the app.  I got my password 
just a few days after requesting it...some people here seem to be 
having a lot of trouble making contact however.

David T. Anderson
Calgary, Alberta
http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/

Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp

**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

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From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi...               28-Sep-99 00:56:19
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: Problems on WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows filename automatically rena

Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca

From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:57:02, "oad" <oad@it.hkbank.com> a crit:

> Our workstations used OS/2 platform. Using WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows
> installed on Novell server. The WordPerfect file automatically rename to
> @xxxxxxx.wpd periodically.

	We have the same configuration and I have never seen that.  Which WP 
file gets rename?  Does the security flags of the WP directory set to 
Read-only?

Salut,

	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
	ICQ #13376913
	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au                    28-Sep-99 00:38:18
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)

Eric A. Erickson <drowelf@nospamvnet.net> wrote:
>I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about requiring
>Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years 
>with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
>notebook. 

Is drive C: accessible?  Presumably because of brain-dead programming,
a lot of M$ stuff won't run unless you let it write to drive C:, even
if the software is installed in another drive.  You'll get this problem
if, for example, you convert C: to a format (like NTFS) for which you
don't have OS/2 drivers.

The workaround is to put something in your autoexec.bat that will map
C: to an accessible drive.  It's one of those obscure DOS commands:
SUBST, or something like that.

-- 
Peter Moylan                                         peter@ee.newcastle.edu.au
See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

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From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca                          28-Sep-99 01:01:12
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: spruce/2 email client

From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Asbjoern Pettersen (ape@spacetec.no) wrote:
: I just ported spruce to XFree86/2 today.
: It's a email client.
: See
: http://www.xtorshun.org/spruce/main.html

: Seems to work but i havn't got time to test it further.
: Anyone interested in this app. ?


It _looks_ nice, but I don't think I'd fire up XFree86/2 just to start up
an e-mail app!
Maybe when those guys at Netlabs are finished with their GTK+ port...

(You know, their motto "Because 'User Friend' is for wusses" doesn't
inspire confidence in me... :)


Isaac

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From: worlock@frontiernet.net                           27-Sep-99 21:30:21
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: Photo>Graphics free license?

From: "RichS" <worlock@frontiernet.net>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Thanks for the info. Apparently mine got through anyway as I got the reply
from them this morning also. Maybe they only send them out in 'bulk' ?

Thanks...

Rich...

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:51:20 GMT, Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay wrote:

>I got the code this morning.  The trick is to keep the subject header 
>of your code request completely blank contrary to their instructions.  
>State the request in the body.  This has been posted in the newsgroup 
>before.
>
>Sushenjit
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>On 9-27-99, 1:54:11 PM, "RichS" <worlock@frontiernet.net> wrote 
>regarding Re: Photo>Graphics free license?:
>
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>
>> Has anyone at all gotten the code? I've been waiting for weeks with no
>> answer...
>
>> Thanks...
>
>> Rich...
>
>
>
>
>

******************************************************************************
Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless...Umm...Uhh....
Oh - Heck...I never could remember all that "nice" stuff.
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From: nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net                      27-Sep-99 18:48:14
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: Corel file converter

From: "Nick Danger" <nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net>

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:13:03 -0400, Dan Holmes wrote:

> Does anyone know of a program that will import/convert Corel
> 4 or 5 files as bmps/jpegs or anything.  How about PMView i
> have never used it but would buy it if it did this?

It is not clear from your note what you are trying
to do.  Were the files you have now created by
Corel Draw, Corel PhotoPaint, or some other Corel
app?  Are they in the proprietary Corel format,
i.e. .cdr for Draw or .cpt for PhotoPaint?

PhotoPaint .cpt files are basically glorified TIFFs, and
PMView will indeed read them (or at least, it will
read the base layer.... unless any objects were
merged, they will not be picked up by PMView).
You have to diddle with the PMView "Open File"
dialog to open them... change its list of file types
to "*" so it shows ALL files.  Once open, you can
save them as jpegs or whatever.

I know of nothing that will read a CorelDraw
native file except CorelDraw.

There are some amazing deals on Corel 8
at eBay.  How legal they are I cannot say.


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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   28-Sep-99 01:05:24
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <37efd92a_2@news.calweb.com> - John M Price PhD
<jmprice@calweb.com> writes:
:>
:>I was on NPR, looking for a file, found it, and even though my apps are
:>set correctly, the RAM file was never started.  I simply got a notice that
:>I could get the real player.  I *have* the realplay file, in the proper
:>place, etc. etc. etc.
:>
:>What gives here?  Is there a quick fix?
:>
:>
:>-- 
:>John M. Price, PhD                                     jmprice@calweb.com
:>Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
:>  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. 
:>Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
:>                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1
:>
:>If you love someone,
:>set them free.
:>If they come back,
:>set them on fire.
:>   -  George Carlin
:>


Hello John

I know this may not be of much help but realaudio is working correctly for me.
I am listening to to the Sounds Like Science program on Realaudio as I type
this message. There must be something wrong with your setup.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net

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From: nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net                      27-Sep-99 19:01:25
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: Vector to raster app/utility?

From: "Nick Danger" <nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net>

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:44:25 -0400 (EDT), Tarquelne wrote:

> I'm using CorelDraw5 under OS/2, but need to get the resulting
> drawings (.cdr CorelDraw's format) into clear, sharp slightly smaller
> bmp, gif, or jpeg images.
> 
> Currently I'm saving the CorelDraw 5 files as EPS files, taking them
> to a Win95 machine and using Adobe Photoshop to convert the EPS to
> jpeg.  It works, after a fashion, but it's awkward and the results
> aren't as clear or sharp as I'd like.

I just tried this, and it didn't look too bad:  From Corel Draw,
Select All, then Copy.  From PMView:  Edit|Paste as New.



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From: drowelf@nospamvnet.net                            27-Sep-99 20:52:08
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: Re: Word6 requires Share.Exe

From: "Eric A. Erickson" <drowelf@nospamvnet.net>

On 28 Sep 1999 00:38:37 GMT, Peter Moylan wrote:

>Eric A. Erickson <drowelf@nospamvnet.net> wrote:
>>I'm stumped. All of a sudden my Word 6 is using a pop-up about requiring
>>Share.Exe before it will run. I've been running Word 6 for several years 
>>with no problems. Also I have this problem on a fresh install on a new
>>notebook. 
>
>Is drive C: accessible?  Presumably because of brain-dead programming,
>a lot of M$ stuff won't run unless you let it write to drive C:, even
>if the software is installed in another drive.  You'll get this problem
>if, for example, you convert C: to a format (like NTFS) for which you
>don't have OS/2 drivers.
>
Bingo. That it. I had just converted the C: Drive to NT and formatted it as an 
NTFS
partition.  I just wiped and re-formatted as FAT and all work well. Have to
write this one
down and keep it for posterity.



Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.    		- Internet:  drowelf@vnet.net
IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer 	- IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)
IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer
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From: rappleby@cadvision.com                            27-Sep-99 19:58:11
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:20
Subj: XFree86 and Mach64 setup help needed.

From: rappleby@cadvision.com (Ray Appleby)

Superprobe reports:

First video: Super-VGA
	Chipset: ATI 88800GX-C (Port Probed)
	Memory:  2048 Kbytes
	RAMDAC:  ATI 68830 15/16-bit HiColor DAC
		 (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))
	Attached graphics coprocessor:
		Chipset: ATI Mach64
		Memory:  2048 Kbytes

I read that VLB Mach64 cards will work properly with the current 
release of XFree86 (3.3.5) even if the system has more than 12Mb of 
main ram.  I have 32Mb on a 486DX66 but when I ran Xconfig, there was 
no specific setting for this video card.

When I run 'startx', the XServer runs through all available 
resolutions and marks them all 'Deleted' leaving no available 
resolution to run the XServer.

I have a Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17FS monitor which will support 
1024x768 at 70 Hz with a horizontal frequency of 56.5 kHz.

Any suggestions as to which ATI settings will work for my setup?

Best Regards,
Ray Appleby                     rappleby@cadvision.com
[Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    27-Sep-99 06:26:25
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: Two e-mail addresses?

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <pAl73gBhDmVc092yn@cybernex.net>,
aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) wrote:
>
>Only problem is that PMMail and PMINews are completely unsupported, since
>Southsoft appears to have gone out of business, or at least discontinued tech
>support.  Netscape is at least minimally supported (bugs are being fixed,
>while none of the Southsoft bugs are), and multiple user identities are
>supported.

PMMail is not unsupported. Southsoft has recently completed a move,
and is in the process of getting setup and organized.

There is an active mailing list that you can subscribe to.

Send email to listar@rpglink.com with "subscribe pmmail" in the
message body.


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From: pendrake@erols.com                                27-Sep-99 23:19:11
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Default gateway

From: TomG <pendrake@erols.com>

I posted this to CompuServe and, surprisingly, received no answer after
a week.

HOW do I set the default gateway settings in the TCP/IP configuration
panel?  I have an OS/2 computer at work that I have to run with a static
IP address.  It works fine for resources on the local network but I
cannot route to other network segments and believe I need the DFGW setup
to do this.

Thanks in advance,
Tom

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From: osric@apk.net                                     27-Sep-99 23:49:09
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: Vector to raster app/utility?

From: Tarquelne <osric@apk.net>

>I just tried this, and it didn't look too bad:  From Corel Draw,
>Select All, then Copy.  From PMView:  Edit|Paste as New.

It looked terrible when I tried that.  The text, for example, turned
into solid black bars.
Is the above _all_ you did?
                                            Tarquelne
                                       <osric@apk.net>
        I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
                                  ************************
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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi                             28-Sep-99 04:19:26
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: Vector to raster app/utility?

From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:44:25, Tarquelne <osric@apk.net> wrote:

> Any _good_ OS/2 (or Win3.1 that can be run under OS/2) app/utility
> for converting vector graphic to bmp/jpeg/etc?

Why don't you use a program like PMJPEG, PMVIEW or the like to capture
the area of the screen you're interested in? I'm using PMJPEG and it 
works pretty well.

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From: jmprice@calweb.com                                27-Sep-99 19:49:02
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com>

In comp.os.os2.apps article
<E6sNVDizkcQ3-pn2-qkNMm3GR7h3P@n04h3125.ex-pressnet.com> Mark Klebanoff
<maxikins@os2bbs.com> wrote:
: On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:31:35, Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> 
: wrote:

:> What is the name of the EXE you are using to launch REALPLAYER?
:> 
:> It needs to either be blank (WPS) or be REALPLAY.EXE
:> 
:> (Netscape licensing stuff)
:> 
:> Mike Kaply
:> IBM
:> 
: It doesn't work.  When I put realplay.exe in there, I got the Netscape
: message asking if I wanted to download RealPlayer.  I got it to work 
: when someone e-mailed me the text of a rexx command that takes the 
: file and directly feeds it to RealPlayer.

And that file would be?  And does it replace the realplay in the app
section?


-- 
John M. Price, PhD                                     jmprice@calweb.com
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. 
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

 If you don't want to convict the innocent, you have got to pay a
 price. The price is to acquit a certain amount of guilty people. The
 question is: how many guilty people are we prepared to acquit on the
 basis of reasonable doubt in order to be sure we are not convicting
 the innocent?
           - Chief Justice Antonio Lamer
             Supreme Court of Canada
             quoted in: HALIFAX DAILY NEWS  February 7, 1999


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From: jmprice@calweb.com                                27-Sep-99 15:47:03
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com>

In comp.os.os2.apps article <37EFE236.CBFC0E07@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> Michael Kaply 
<mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:
: What is the name of the EXE you are using to launch REALPLAYER?

: It needs to either be blank (WPS) or be REALPLAY.EXE

J:\real\player\realplay.exe

Just as installed by the plugin pack, and just as listed in the app
section of preferences. I am thinking it is a FN problem, as these are
bigger than the 8.3 FN of WinOS.

But, so far, the best way I have found to listen to RA stuff is to boot
Win98, and use the netscape there.  It also seems 'crisper', but that may
have been because of hte number of things I had open in Warp.


: (Netscape licensing stuff)

: Mike Kaply
: IBM

: John M Price PhD wrote:

:>I was on NPR, looking for a file, found it, and even though my apps are
:>set correctly, the RAM file was never started.  I simply got a notice that
:>I could get the real player.  I *have* the realplay file, in the proper
:>place, etc. etc. etc.
:>
:>What gives here?  Is there a quick fix?
:>
:>--
:>John M. Price, PhD                                     jmprice@calweb.com
:>Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
:>  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
:>Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
:>                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1
:>
:>If you love someone,
:>set them free.
:>If they come back,
:>set them on fire.
:>   -  George Carlin



-- 
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  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. 
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                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

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to believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt.
        - H. L. Mencken

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From: gstrazds@hololasertech.on.ca                      27-Sep-99 00:52:00
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: XFree86 and Mach64 setup help needed.

From: Glenn Strazds <gstrazds@hololasertech.on.ca>


Ray Appleby wrote:

> Superprobe reports:
>
> First video: Super-VGA
>         Chipset: ATI 88800GX-C (Port Probed)
>         Memory:  2048 Kbytes
>         RAMDAC:  ATI 68830 15/16-bit HiColor DAC
>                  (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))
>         Attached graphics coprocessor:
>                 Chipset: ATI Mach64
>                 Memory:  2048 Kbytes
>
> I read that VLB Mach64 cards will work properly with the current
> release of XFree86 (3.3.5) even if the system has more than 12Mb of
> main ram.  I have 32Mb on a 486DX66 but when I ran Xconfig, there was
> no specific setting for this video card.
>
> When I run 'startx', the XServer runs through all available
> resolutions and marks them all 'Deleted' leaving no available
> resolution to run the XServer.
>
> I have a Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17FS monitor which will support
> 1024x768 at 70 Hz with a horizontal frequency of 56.5 kHz.
>
> Any suggestions as to which ATI settings will work for my setup?
>
> Best Regards,
> Ray Appleby                     rappleby@cadvision.com
> [Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.

I made up a X-windows.cmd that says this... start x in 32 bit mode
if you have 4 meg of video ram
You do have the svga server for your ATI card?

ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1

startx -- -bpp 32




sincerely Glenn Strazds


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From: nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net                      27-Sep-99 22:41:11
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: Vector to raster app/utility?

From: "Nick Danger" <nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net>

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:49:19 -0400 (EDT), Tarquelne wrote:

    I'd written:
    > >I just tried this, and it didn't look too bad:  From Corel Draw,
 
> It looked terrible when I tried that.  The text, for example, turned
> into solid black bars.
> Is the above _all_ you did?

Yes, that's all I did, but the results could vary with
screen resolution, color depth, and video driver. I'm
using a Matrox Millenium II at 1200x1600, 65536 colors.
Driver is Matrox's 2.22.078.


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From: osric@apk.net                                     28-Sep-99 01:02:12
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: Vector to raster app/utility?

From: Tarquelne <osric@apk.net>

>Why don't you use a program like PMJPEG, PMVIEW or the like to capture
>the area of the screen you're interested in? I'm using PMJPEG and it 
>works pretty well.

At a magnification good enough to show the drawing well:
1)  CorelDraw's display starts to suffer.
2)  I'd have to stitch together multiple captured images.
3)  The total image would be LARGE.  And shrinking it would, of
course, blur it.

. . . or am I missing something about CorelDraw's display
capabilities?  I just got it.

                                            Tarquelne
                                       <osric@apk.net>
        I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
                                  ************************
Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
___________________________________________________________
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From: nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net                      27-Sep-99 22:47:14
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: Default gateway

From: "Nick Danger" <nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net>

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:19:23 -0400, TomG wrote:

> HOW do I set the default gateway settings in the TCP/IP configuration
> panel? 

Open the TCP/IP configuration notebook. Go to the second
tab, "Routing".  Push the "Add" Button.  A Dialog will open.
Make "Route Type" "D" for default. Put the IP address of
the gateway in "Router Address". Metric is 1.  Save & reboot.


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From: milindr@bellsouth.net                             28-Sep-99 05:58:17
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)

> > > Right now, though, you really can't expect new features
> > > like that to be added to current product, anyway.
> >
> > Do you mean to 4.6 GA or ever in the future?
> 
> I mean to the 4.61 release.  I can't speak for any future releases,
> of course.

That's fine.  I'd like to see this in a future release.

Regards
Milind

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From: jmprice@calweb.com                                27-Sep-99 19:51:02
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 05:15:29
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com>

In comp.os.os2.apps article <ouhoyrlubzrpbz.fiqpd00.pminews@news> Brad Hubley
<bhubleybhubley@home.com> wrote:
: Saw your post in the newsgroups.  I finally figured out how to get Real
Audio
: working with my system.  The problem that I was experiencing revolved around
: my SB 32 PnP sound card.  I had forgotten to install sound for Win-OS2
: sessions.  I also setup Real Audio as an Application in Comm 4.61 with the
: following:

: Mime type: audio/x-pn-realaudio
: Extensions: ra, ram, rv, rm, rpm
: Application: x:\Real\Player\realplay.exe

Well, the last is what I have going on.  However in tracking this down, I
do have no sound in any Win-OS session.  And the RA files don't play, with
an error 50, can't find the sound card.  

Control panel shows the ESS drivers loaded, though.



: HTH,
: Brad


: On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:33:06 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

:>John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> said:
:>>I was on NPR, looking for a file, found it, and even though my apps are set
:>>correctly, the RAM file was never started.  I simply got a notice that I
could
:>>get the real player.  I *have* the realplay file, in the proper place, etc.
:>>etc. etc.
:>
:>>What gives here?  Is there a quick fix?
:>
:>Same here with RA, RAM, RPM and RM.  What's up?
:>
:>Jim L
:>Remove XX from address to Email
:>Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.
:>
:>

: ____________________________________________________
:   Windoze 95 @ work 'cause I have to,
:   OS/2 Warp 4 @ home 'cause I want to!

:   Visit my Cable Modems and OS/2 Warp 4 website @
:   http://members.home.net/bhubley/cableintro.html
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:   Please remove 1 bhubley from my address before replying




-- 
John M. Price, PhD                                     jmprice@calweb.com
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. 
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                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

Found in alt.atheism:
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy 
from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent 
that will reach to himself"
           - Thomas Paine

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From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void                      27-Sep-99 10:01:01
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 05:15:29
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman)

On 09/26/99 at 10:16 PM, Alan Beagley
<abeagley_DeleteThisToReply@datatone.com> said:

>I, too, am using a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP. Everything was fine after
>I selected "document-specified fonts, but disable Dynamic Fonts."

>Alan Beagley

>Jeffery Swagger wrote:

>> In <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-E6U1Qn6biWyp@POBLANO>, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) 
writes:
>> >
>> >It's fascinating that all of the complaints about Comm4.6.1 (that I have
>> >noticed, anyway) are all about systems with Matrox display hardware. One
>> >wonders about the drivers.
>> >
>>
>> Just for the record I am using a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP with the
>> 2.22.078 drivers and Netscape works just fine.

Ditto here.  Same configuration, same result.  I am very happy with
Communicator 4.61, and EXTREMELY happy with Matrox.  BTW, I have actually
seen very few complaints of any type. 

Sander Nyman

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   28-Sep-99 01:05:19
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 05:15:29
Subj: Re: Default gateway

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>


Nick Danger wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:19:23 -0400, TomG wrote:
> 
> > HOW do I set the default gateway settings in the TCP/IP configuration
> > panel?
> 
> Open the TCP/IP configuration notebook. Go to the second
> tab, "Routing".  Push the "Add" Button.  A Dialog will open.
> Make "Route Type" "D" for default. Put the IP address of
> the gateway in "Router Address". Metric is 1.  Save & reboot.

Or type this in a window

route add default ip.add.re.ss 1

no reboot necessary

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   28-Sep-99 01:02:07
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 05:15:29
Subj: Re: Vector to raster app/utility?

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

Why don't you export the drawing as a 200dpi TIFF or BMP and use one of
the viewers to resample the image to the size you need. Note, resizing
will give you jaggies but resampling will antialiase the image in the
process (can even use PhotoPaint5 for that).

Tarquelne wrote:
> 
> >Why don't you use a program like PMJPEG, PMVIEW or the like to capture
> >the area of the screen you're interested in? I'm using PMJPEG and it
> >works pretty well.
> 
> At a magnification good enough to show the drawing well:
> 1)  CorelDraw's display starts to suffer.
> 2)  I'd have to stitch together multiple captured images.
> 3)  The total image would be LARGE.  And shrinking it would, of
> course, blur it.
> 
> . . . or am I missing something about CorelDraw's display
> capabilities?  I just got it.
> 
>                                             Tarquelne
>                                        <osric@apk.net>
>         I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
>                                   ************************
> Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
> ___________________________________________________________
> "I'm an old navy man; the bow is the rear end, isn't it?"--Richard Nixon

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From: v_kazimirchik@yahoo.com                           28-Sep-99 11:03:28
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 05:15:29
Subj: Netscape 4.61-mail and exit problems

From: "V.Kazimirchik" <v_kazimirchik@yahoo.com>

Hello All.
I've installed 4.61 above 4.04 a week ago on Aurora machine. A few days
all worked fine, but 
strange things began after I decided to check codepage in outgoing
messages
and sent a message to myself. That message contained an attachment
(binary file
~500kb in  size).
After the message was retrieved from POP3 server, I was notified that
message can not
be deleted on POP3 server. And this repeated all the time, even after
reboot.
I could not even get any other message.
Then I decided to set up Netscape "leave messages on server", retrieved
the message
another time and set "not to leave messages on server" again. After this
all seemed OK
(I believe the message remained undeleted on POP3 server).
The second problem may be related with the first. Next day I've got a
lot of messages 
(about 70) from the mailing list, deleted all after reading. And when
tried to
"empty trash folder", Netscape crashed. Right now I get this crash
almost every time I
try to "empty trash folder". Here's the POPUPLOG.OS2 cut:
=========
09-28-1999  10:18:09  SYS3175  PID 0036  TID 0001  Slot 0055
C:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1e639b03
P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00f573b0  EBX=00000000  ECX=00000000  EDX=008e0038
ESI=00f573b0  EDI=00000000
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=3fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=3fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e639b03  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=3fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c5db0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=3fffffff
EBP=007c5dc4  FLG=00012213

MOZILLA.DLL 0001:00009b03
========
Third thing. Today, when I exitted Netscape, my HDD began to flash
instantly
for about 3 minutes, after this SWAPPER.DAT began 120+Mb in size, what
has eaten all disk space on the partition. Here's another cut from
POPUPLOG.OS2:
========
09-28-1999  09:21:14  SYS3175  PID 002e  TID 0001  Slot 0057
C:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1c03c401
P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00fd67e0  EBX=00000000  ECX=00000000  EDX=008e0038
ESI=00fd67e0  EDI=00000000
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=3fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=3fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e639b03  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=3fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c5db0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=3fffffff
EBP=007c5dc4  FLG=00012213

DOSCALL1.DLL 0003:0000c401
========
-- 
Regards, Vladimir (http://i.am/kzm, mailto:v_kazimirchik@yahoo.com)

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From: L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org                     28-Sep-99 07:15:00
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 05:15:29
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org (Luko Willms)

     Am  27.09.99
schrieb  donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
    auf  /COMP/OS/OS2/MISC
     in  Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-FH9h3eF4TWhX@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com
  ueber  Re: Produce PDF?

BD> On the other hand, PDF (by design) prints identically on every machine,
BD> every printer, everywhere. (If "distilled" correctly, that is.)

   When I called the Adobe support phone, asking for a solution on
OS/2 Acrobat's inability to print duplex, they told me that Acrobat  
Reader is not meant to print, only to view a document.


Lko Willms
/--------- L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org -- Alle Rechte vorbehalten --

"Die Interessen der Nation lassen sich nicht anders formulieren als unter
dem Gesichtspunkt der herrschenden Klasse oder der Klasse, die die
Herrschaft anstrebt."            - Leo Trotzki         (27. Januar 1932)

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From: veit@simi.gmd.de                                  28-Sep-99 08:02:11
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:01
Subj: Re: XFree86 and Mach64 setup help needed.

From: veit@simi.gmd.de (Holger Veit)

On 27 Sep 1999 19:58:22 -0700, Ray Appleby <rappleby@cadvision.com> wrote:
>Superprobe reports:
>
>First video: Super-VGA
>	Chipset: ATI 88800GX-C (Port Probed)
>	Memory:  2048 Kbytes
>	RAMDAC:  ATI 68830 15/16-bit HiColor DAC
>		 (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))
>	Attached graphics coprocessor:
>		Chipset: ATI Mach64
>		Memory:  2048 Kbytes
>
>I read that VLB Mach64 cards will work properly with the current 
>release of XFree86 (3.3.5) even if the system has more than 12Mb of 

I think you are pretty wrong there.

>main ram.  I have 32Mb on a 486DX66 but when I ran Xconfig, there was 
>no specific setting for this video card.
>
>When I run 'startx', the XServer runs through all available 
>resolutions and marks them all 'Deleted' leaving no available 
>resolution to run the XServer.

Without the complete server output, no useful answer is possible.
It may be that the server fails to find the correct RAM amount (although
this is rather unlikely for the Mach) or you have setup pretty invalid
monitor settings for the requested resolutions. 

>I have a Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17FS monitor which will support 
>1024x768 at 70 Hz with a horizontal frequency of 56.5 kHz.
>
>Any suggestions as to which ATI settings will work for my setup?
>
>Best Regards,
>Ray Appleby                     rappleby@cadvision.com
>[Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.


-- 
Signature fault - code dumbed

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From: lars.hofstad@eto.ericsson.se                      28-Sep-99 10:28:13
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:01
Subj: Re: Photo>Graphics free license?

From: Lars Hofstad <lars.hofstad@eto.ericsson.se>

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:54:11 -0400 (EDT), "RichS"
<worlock@frontiernet.net> wrote:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>Has anyone at all gotten the code? I've been waiting for weeks with no
>answer...
>
>Thanks...
>
>Rich...
>

I sent my request on the 6th of sptember, got my answer on the 7th,
even with the following subject line:: PhotoGraphics registration key
Nothing wrong with the response time there, or maybe it pays to be the
early bird.


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From: nospam@null                                       28-Sep-99 08:37:11
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:01
Subj: Re: SearchManager/2 Price

From: nospam@null (Richard Crane)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 00:16:38, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:
[snip]
 
> Strange that we had two of these at one time, SearchManager/2 and 
> FileHound, and now we have none.
> 
> PMSeek of course comes with OS/2 and is reasonably fast (and you can even 
> set it as the default FIND app on the WarpCenter) but does not do indexing 
> and there's no substitute for indexing.
For indexing you can drag out your old copy of Word Perfect for OS/2
 
Just my 0.02c AUS$ worth
Richard A Crane


Abort, Retry, Fail or I wish I hadn't done that?

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From: nospam@null                                       28-Sep-99 08:37:15
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:01
Subj: Re: ProNews bugs?

From: nospam@null (Richard Crane)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 03:33:36, Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca
(Michel
A Goyette) wrote in part :
> 	I can see my posting when I do a refresh and ProNews/2 downloads it 
> without problem.  I haven't found a settings option for it yet.
>
Ditto 
> The point follows on the next line.
Missing here.!
Richard A Crane


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          28-Sep-99 08:20:16
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:01
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 06:15:00, L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org (Luko Willms) a
crit dans un message:

>      Am  27.09.99
> schrieb  donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
>     auf  /COMP/OS/OS2/MISC
>      in  Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-FH9h3eF4TWhX@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com
>   ueber  Re: Produce PDF?
> 
> BD> On the other hand, PDF (by design) prints identically on every machine,
> BD> every printer, everywhere. (If "distilled" correctly, that is.)
> 
>    When I called the Adobe support phone, asking for a solution on
> OS/2 Acrobat's inability to print duplex, they told me that Acrobat  
> Reader is not meant to print, only to view a document.

And, the check's in the mail. And, I'll always love you. And, ...

I doubt they'd give the same answer to the US Internal Revenue Service, and
to the income tax departments of the 50 states, all of whom provide 
downloadable Tax Return Forms specifically for local printing, filling in, 
and mailing in. There's not much one can do in life of a positive uplifting
nature, staring at a blank tax return form on one's video screen. (In fact,
I'd bet the IRS has cut way back on the number of forms they actually print
themselves and distribute; used to be you could find them in every post 
office, bank lobby, and public library right around the filing deadline.)

Adobe isn't the easiest company to deal with, including on the telephone. 
This dates back to their earliest days, in my experience. Maybe this 
accounts for IBM only being able to give us 1992-level code in PMATM.DLL? 
The code that is responsible for the shabby screen display of Type 1 fonts?
The so-called "Adobe" fonts?


As far as "duplex" printing, assuming you mean printing full size pages on 
alternate sides of the same piece of paper, using a duplex-enabled printer,
I'm not surprised what you say is true. The way PDF files are constructed 
(out of PostScript, fundamentally) the strength of PostScript, a "Page 
Description Language", is being used to overcome variations among the 
printer types out there in the field. However, I'm not sure that some 
fooling around with GhostView and maybe a specially-defined printer object 
might not work for this.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: pendrake@erols.com                                28-Sep-99 06:16:27
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:01
Subj: Re: Photo>Graphics free license?

From: TomG <pendrake@erols.com>

Maybe it does pay to be the early bird because I have been waiting more
than 72 hours and have not received the code yet.  Not that I am
complaining - it's just that 24 hours would have been nice!

Lars Hofstad wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:54:11 -0400 (EDT), "RichS"
> <worlock@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >Hash: SHA1
> >
> >Has anyone at all gotten the code? I've been waiting for weeks with no
> >answer...
> >
> >Thanks...
> >
> >Rich...
> >
>
> I sent my request on the 6th of sptember, got my answer on the 7th,
> even with the following subject line:: PhotoGraphics registration key
> Nothing wrong with the response time there, or maybe it pays to be the
> early bird.

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From: maxikins@os2bbs.com                               28-Sep-99 10:24:07
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:01
Subj: Re: NS4.61ga & Real Stuff

From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff)

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:49:04, John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com> 
wrote:

> > And that file would be?  And does it replace the realplay in the app
> section?

Yes, it does replace realplay.exe
> 
/*  Launch Real Audio Player for WebExplorer from OS/2  */
/*  This was tested on the 0609 WE Beta                 */
/*  Available from URL www.teamos2.org/software/        */
/*  Example for RA Player in the d:\real\player\ directory */
/*  Adjust accordingly                                  */
     ADDRESS CMD
     '@ECHO OFF'
     parse arg infile
     'COPY' infile 'g:\real50\FOOBAR.RAM'
     'start "RA Player" /WIN g:\real50\realplay.EXE 
g:\real50\FOOBAR.RAM'
     ECHO Starting the RA Player
/*     exit 0 */

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      28-Sep-99 01:09:13
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:01
Subj: Re: different user profiles in NC4.61?

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <7sopok$86d$1@morgoth.sfu.ca>, altman@sfu.ca (Tymoteusz Altman) writes:

>Well that's what I expected to see...but there isn't one. But maybe the
>install didn't work the way it was supposed to. I didn't install into
>a new folder. I installed it on top of my NS2.02 folder called "Netscape".
>Consequently NC4.61 programms are in the Netscape/Programs folder. However
>I still don't see the User Profile Manager anywhere. 
>
>Should I reinstall NC4.61 into a different folder?

Not sure why you didn't get the object created when you 
installed.  Maybe you could just create it yourself?

On my machine, the "User Profile manager" object calls
"NETSCAPE.EXE" as the executable and has "-profile_manager -l
en_US" as startup parameters and runs in the /netscape/program
directory.

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          28-Sep-99 11:12:07
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:01
Subj: Re: Vector to raster app/utility?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:01:51, "Nick Danger" <nickdanger@null.spamTHIS.net> 
a crit dans un message:

> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:44:25 -0400 (EDT), Tarquelne wrote:
> 
> > I'm using CorelDraw5 under OS/2, but need to get the resulting
> > drawings (.cdr CorelDraw's format) into clear, sharp slightly smaller
> > bmp, gif, or jpeg images.
> > 
> > Currently I'm saving the CorelDraw 5 files as EPS files, taking them
> > to a Win95 machine and using Adobe Photoshop to convert the EPS to
> > jpeg.  It works, after a fashion, but it's awkward and the results
> > aren't as clear or sharp as I'd like.
> 
> I just tried this, and it didn't look too bad:  From Corel Draw,
> Select All, then Copy.  From PMView:  Edit|Paste as New.

PMView does a good job of handling anything vectorish you can get into 
OS/2's clipboard, and that means you'll have to have DDE enabled for your 
WinOS2 session programs.

This is a vector-to-raster conversion, and it is dependent on the screen 
res/color depth at the time you do it. (I believe; I don't mess with 
anything except 1280x1024x16.7m here.)

For what it's worth, I hate the CDR format and try never to use it. Not 
even Corel programs seem to handle them smoothly, except the program that 
created or last worked on the vector image. If I am pretty sure I'll want 
to use that vector image somewhere else, I'll save it out of CorelDraw as 
AI3 (Adobe Illustrator v.3.0) format, which *is* quite standard and imports
cleanly as vector into DeScribe. (Or back into CDraw.) 

Once in DeScribe, you can resize it completely WYSIWYG, still as vector (no
jaggles), then use Clipboard to put it in PMView for the bitmap conversion.

PMView seems to want to default to 300x300bpi res, pretty good for most 
things, but if you're likely to want this bitmap in a large size, stretch 
it substantially oversize in DeScribe before cut-and-pasting it. Then you 
can shrink it in PMView without losing detail, much better (always) than 
stretching it as a bitmap and trusting the paint program to resample 
decently.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: csaba.raduly@sophos.com                           28-Sep-99 13:16:20
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com>

Doug Bissett wrote:
> 
[snip]
> (and ALL OS/2 users should make sure that they REGISTER the
> software, so that IBM might realize that OS/2 is in high demand).
> 
Like they really care :-(

Csaba

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Csaba Raduly,    Software Developer (OS/2),    Sophos Anti-Virus
mailto:csaba.raduly@sophos.com            http://www.sophos.com/
US Support +1 888 SOPHOS 9            UK Support +44 1235 559933
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From: csaba.raduly@sophos.com                           28-Sep-99 13:22:29
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: Csaba Raduly <csaba.raduly@sophos.com>

Jan Danielsson wrote:
> 
> Ok, noted. Can RTF handle bitmaps (monocrome)?
> 

Yes it can (but it will make your RTF grow exponentially :-)
Stupid Micros~1 Word97 exports to RTF when asked to export Word95
Csaba
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mailto:csaba.raduly@sophos.com            http://www.sophos.com/
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From: dholmes@trellis.net                               28-Sep-99 09:01:23
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: Corel file converter

From: Dan Holmes <dholmes@trellis.net>

Nick Danger wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:13:03 -0400, Dan Holmes wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know of a program that will import/convert Corel
> > 4 or 5 files as bmps/jpegs or anything.  How about PMView i
> > have never used it but would buy it if it did this?
> 
> It is not clear from your note what you are trying
> to do.  Were the files you have now created by
> Corel Draw, Corel PhotoPaint, or some other Corel
> app?  Are they in the proprietary Corel format,
> i.e. .cdr for Draw or .cpt for PhotoPaint?

I want to import the .cdr's from the clipart of the corel CD
into something other than corel.



-- 
-------------------
Dan Holmes
Integrated Visual Systems, Inc.
voice 704-847-3379
fax   704-847-4655
mailto:dholmes@trellis.net
work -> http://www.ivsi.com
play -> http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hollow/3097

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Most of the time i think for myself, at least that is what
they tell me.

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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         28-Sep-99 11:16:10
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Dragon.dll belong to ?

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

I experience sys3171 errors when using netscape in the dragon.dll.

Dragon.dll does not belong to the netscape distrbution. Does somebody know to 
which package its belongs to?

Arjen


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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  28-Sep-99 13:28:02
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: I have the Photo>Graphics key --- Now what?

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

I have downloaded Photo>Graphics, and have even received the registration 
key from TrueSpectra. Now what? Where does it go? I see no place in which 
to enter it, nor are there any pull-down menus available that might lead me
to it. I also do not find a hint in the documentation that game with the 
program.

Since the program loads with a notification that I have 29 more days leftto
register, it obviously expects me to do something.

When the program loads, it comes up with a list of tutorial files that I 
might load, but it is not possible to load them, because the files are not 
present; the Tutorial subdirectory is empty, which is a surprise. The PGPro
folder in the main folder is also empty, although I swear that it had a 
number of folders inside it when I first installed the program. Does this 
ring a bell for anyone?

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: mmahoney@eoni.com                                 28-Sep-99 02:05:12
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: OS2 PDF Software

From: Michael Mahoney <mmahoney@eoni.com>

Buddy Donnelly wrote:

(snip)


Buddy,

[ Am replying here to two seperate messages ]

Lexmark Optra Color 40

> (And it needs more than the 4MB of RAM it comes with, especially to
> print PostScript. I haven't pulled the back to check, but the handbook
> suggests it is proprietary memory, and I'm gonna get cranky if I have
> to pay through the nose for it.)

I bought a Color 40 a year ago and I too quickly determined that 4MB RAM
was not nearly enough. I took a look at the prices of Lexmark RAM and
nearly choked! I spoke to Lexmark tech support and determined all you
need is a 72-pin SIMM RAM module (tin not gold contacts). I bought a
32MB SIMM from Micron/Crucial for a pittance of what Lexmark was
charging. Has been working just fine ever since.

When I asked tech support why their RAM was so expensive I was told: "We
have good memory." Well...duh! Micron gave me a lifetime warranty. What
more do I need?


> I had messed with these buttons and was able to generate a very useful
> report, but couldn't duplicate it because I don't know the sequence of
> pushes that I had used.

One push will do it. Any time the printer is not otherwise busy.
And I agree. It's a handy report.


Michael

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From: e9125065@student.tuwien.ac.at                     28-Sep-99 15:57:26
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: I have the Photo>Graphics key --- Now what?

From: "Stefan Gombar" <e9125065@student.tuwien.ac.at>

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:28:04 GMT, Stan Goodman wrote:

>I have downloaded Photo>Graphics, and have even received the registration 
>key from TrueSpectra. Now what? Where does it go? I see no place in which 
>to enter it, nor are there any pull-down menus available that might lead me
>to it. I also do not find a hint in the documentation that game with the 
>program.
>
>Since the program loads with a notification that I have 29 more days leftto
>register, it obviously expects me to do something.
>
>When the program loads, it comes up with a list of tutorial files that I 
>might load, but it is not possible to load them, because the files are not 
>present; the Tutorial subdirectory is empty, which is a surprise. The PGPro
>folder in the main folder is also empty, although I swear that it had a 
>number of folders inside it when I first installed the program. Does this 
>ring a bell for anyone?
>
>-------------
>Stan Goodman
>Qiryat Tiv'on
>Israel

Hi!

Try the 'About...' dialog. There you find a 'Unlock now'-Button.
Good luck.

Best regards,

Stefan




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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          28-Sep-99 13:55:09
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:05:35, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger) wrote:

:What magical incantation is required to get
:Netscape to show me the full URL of the file being downloaded?

 Netscape 2.02 does this.

-- 
Anthropomorphic Hamburger

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From: esther@bitranch.com                               28-Sep-99 14:09:15
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler)

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:45:38, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy 
Donnelly) wrote:
| > I'd rather see you use HTML... not because it's inherently printer 
| > friendly, but because most modern word processors can read it. 
| 
| (I'll accept the other side in this argument, and try not to go postal in 
| the process.)

<smile>

| HTML produces *horrible* printer results as a "universal" document format 
| tool. 
| Every browser prints it differently, page breaks occur seemingly in 
| conjunction with a random number generator built into Netscape, graphics 
| may (40%-) or may not (60%+) screw things up, and it is far too dependent 
| on the fonts installed on each local machine *plus* the variables of how 
| the browser is set to handle fonts.

I agree with you. I wasn't speaking of HTML for use in a browser; I 
agree that printing from a browser can be very ugly. However, most 
word processors _read_ an HTML file just fine... which means you can 
edit as well as print.

| On the other hand, PDF (by design) prints identically on every machine, 
| every printer, everywhere. (If "distilled" correctly, that is.)

Yup. And it's a proprietary format.

I'm making the assumption -- which may not be correct -- that 
technical documentation is comparatively flat. Not necessarily ASCII 
text, but with some headings, text marked in italic or bold, etc. An 
occasional embedded graphic (such as a screen shot).

As I think you know, I've written a fair amount of such documentation,
myself. :-)

--Esther

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               28-Sep-99 16:03:21
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: I have the Photo>Graphics key --- Now what?

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Stan Goodman schrieb:
> 
> I have downloaded Photo>Graphics, and have even received the registration
> key from TrueSpectra. Now what? Where does it go? I see no place in which
> to enter it, nor are there any pull-down menus available that might lead me
> to it. I also do not find a hint in the documentation that game with the
> program.

Right-click on the image windows and select About. Click the Unlock
button and enter the code.

> When the program loads, it comes up with a list of tutorial files that I
> might load, but it is not possible to load them, because the files are not
> present; the Tutorial subdirectory is empty, which is a surprise. 

The download package is not the full package that was delivered on CD
when you ordered PGPro but a special version for demo CDs. Providing the
tutorial would increase the packages size a LOT.

> The PGPro
> folder in the main folder is also empty, although I swear that it had a
> number of folders inside it when I first installed the program. Does this
> ring a bell for anyone?

The PGPro folder in the main folder is a shadow of the real folder you
installed PGPro to. Your problem could be related to errors in your INI
files. Try to use CHECKINI from the WPTOOLS package and see what
happens.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: esther@bitranch.com                               28-Sep-99 14:10:25
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: Dragon.dll belong to ?

From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler)

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:16:20, "Arjen Meijer" 
<arjen@removethis.hacom.nl> wrote:

| I experience sys3171 errors when using netscape in the dragon.dll.
| 
| Dragon.dll does not belong to the netscape distrbution. Does somebody know
to 
| which package its belongs to?
| 
| Arjen

Rename it (to, say, OldDragon.dll) and see what fails.

--Esther

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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            28-Sep-99 14:07:11
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-p7ClBGOPMkKW@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
>On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:16:21, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger) a
>crit dans un message:
>
>In Netscape, pull down Help | About Font Displayers and follow the links.
>Especially to the Bitstream site, which is the leader in dynamic font
>technology.
>

Went there did that.  Drilled down through the examples and all seemed
to work except for Chianti Italic which was just plain, not italicized.


----
Jeff

   I have a spelling checker: it came with my PC.
   It plainly marks four my revue, mistakes I cannot sea.
   I've run this program threw it, I'm sure your pleased too no.
   Its letter perfect in it's weigh.  My checker tolled me sew.

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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           28-Sep-99 09:37:21
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61-mail and exit problems

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

The Empty Trash is a known problem.

Mike
IBM

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From: bandyo@wam.umd.edu                                28-Sep-99 10:58:11
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Help: Dynamic Fonts and Netscape/2 4.61

From: Sushenjit Bandyopadhyay <bandyo@wam.umd.edu>

Can Netscape/2 4.61 use pfr dynamic fonts?  I have Use dynamic fonts 
enabled in the preference.  When I click on Help -> About Fonts, I don't 
see pfr fonts just default dp listed.  Clicking on the btistream link 
does not show me the pages with dynamic fonts properly.  

Am I missing something? Please help.

Sushenjit



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From: kenames@earthlink.net                             28-Sep-99 15:13:11
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: Another reason that Photo>Graphics doesn't answer

From: kenames@earthlink.net

After waiting a couple weeks I tried sending a message with just the 
subject line and no body and received my code in 2 1/2 minutes. Hope 
this helps.

Ken

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:05:58, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) wrote:

> There is yet another possibility for the failure of TrueSpectra to send 
> back the keys.
> 
> I downloaded the program, sent in the required request (with a blank 
> subject line, as people have pointed out is necessary), and got back the 
> keys next time I logged on to my mailbox, about twenty minutes later. But 
> the email in which they were contained was addressed to a username that I 
> have never used, and that means nothing to me; I received it nevertheless, 
> because ANY username will get to me in this domain. If my email address 
> were a normal one, the note would never have reached me, and might have 
> been bounced back to the sender, which doesn't read it, and so would have 
> been lost in Cyberheaven forever.
> 
> -------------
> Stan Goodman
> Qiryat Tiv'on
> Israel
> 
> Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
> me. Sorry.
> Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.
> 
> 




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From: askbill*AT*ibm.net                                28-Sep-99 23:47:25
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 16:15:08
Subj: Re: Saving a Word document on peer OS/2

From: askbill*AT*ibm.net

In <yNUQIMEW4Brk-pn2-EdtmhqiuFxdd@adsl-79-140-63.atl.bellsouth.net>, on
09/27/99 
   at 10:49 PM, milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao) said:

>I have an OS/2 machine and an NT machine on a peer setup.  If I try to
>save a Word document on a shared drive on the OS/2 machine, it takes 
>ages (3-4 minutes) for a 1 page document.  WI have tried various save 
>options with no luck.  Saving the file on the NT machine and copying  it
>to the OS/2 machine after I'm done is very fast.  But I'd like to  know
>why this happens.

This may be off the mark, but.....

If your OS/2 machine's drive is HPFS, it will try to ascertain the file
size before writing it to disk.  This is part of HPFS's toolset which
reduces / virtually eliminates fragmentation.  It tries to find a good
"fit" in available space.

Files being copied have sizes know precisely in advance.  Files coming
from Micros**t Weird are possibly of a size not known in advance to HPFS.

Just a guess.  BTW  - initial saves from StarOffice one OS/2 box to
another under Warp Server Advanced or Aurora are *also* slower - the first
time - than a CLI copy.  Subsequent saves after edits are lightning quick,
as are the "replicator" copies that make safety images on multiple
servers.

We are all HPFS or HPFS386 here.

YMMV!

Bill Hacker
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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          28-Sep-99 16:04:16
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 16:15:08
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:09:31, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) a 
crit dans un message:

> 
> | HTML produces *horrible* printer results as a "universal" document format 
> | tool. 
> | Every browser prints it differently, page breaks occur seemingly in 
> | conjunction with a random number generator built into Netscape, graphics 
> | may (40%-) or may not (60%+) screw things up, and it is far too dependent 
> | on the fonts installed on each local machine *plus* the variables of how 
> | the browser is set to handle fonts.
> 
> I agree with you. I wasn't speaking of HTML for use in a browser; I 
> agree that printing from a browser can be very ugly. However, most 
> word processors _read_ an HTML file just fine... which means you can 
> edit as well as print.

I was pretty sure that's where you were coming from. Spoken like a 
writer/editor, I think.

> 
> | On the other hand, PDF (by design) prints identically on every machine, 
> | every printer, everywhere. (If "distilled" correctly, that is.)
> 
> Yup. And it's a proprietary format.

Meaning: "good", or "bad"?

> 
> I'm making the assumption -- which may not be correct -- that 
> technical documentation is comparatively flat. Not necessarily ASCII 
> text, but with some headings, text marked in italic or bold, etc. An 
> occasional embedded graphic (such as a screen shot).

The flatter, in my opinion which I tend to ram down the throats of 
consulting clients, the better PDF serves. All I want them to do with such 
material is read it, either on the screen or, more usual in real life, 
print it out to read in the john. 


> 
> As I think you know, I've written a fair amount of such documentation,
> myself. :-)

Again, you're speaking like a writer/editor (two heads of the same beast 
these days) and I cannot dispute that it's more convenient to put 
documentation out and then revise it as time goes along, if you keep it in 
HTML. I'm still looking for the simplified set of step-by-steps that let me
keep such things in some form, maybe DeScribe maybe HTML, but then output 
it into solid PDFs when it's time to strike a fresh copy. 

Things aren't much better in Windows, I'm afraid, and it took all of two 
working days (instead of the two hours I had planned for and deadlined 
against) to make PDFs from about a hundred pages last year. Using PM6.5, 
even. Service bureaus jumped the gun a bit last year when they began 
accepting PDFs for color work, because they then had to unwind yet another 
step in the production process to make the changes in the underlying 
material that would allow decent-quality printing.


I'd pay hundreds of dollars to have a MakePDF icon on my OS/2 desktop that 
I could drag copy to, and watch the resultant file open in AcroRead for 
proofing, and enjoy seeing it not need any.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          28-Sep-99 16:13:26
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 16:15:08
Subj: Re: Comm4.61 unusable :-(

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:07:22, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger) a 
crit dans un message:

> In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-p7ClBGOPMkKW@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
> >On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:16:21, jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger) a
> >crit dans un message:
> >
> >In Netscape, pull down Help | About Font Displayers and follow the links.
> >Especially to the Bitstream site, which is the leader in dynamic font
> >technology.
> >
> 
> Went there did that.  Drilled down through the examples and all seemed
> to work except for Chianti Italic which was just plain, not italicized.

Well, maybe. If a page is written for dynamic fonts, you have to have the 
font of that name already on your system, to see it as you are intended to 
see it. 

Adobe, among other owners of typefaces, doesn't want a font to be 
deliverable from the server to a non-paying user's browser.

Otherwise, NS461 will give you a font substitution, but use the font sizes 
and colors specified. Getting any further attributes (italic, bold, bold 
italic) requires the base font you're using (Times New Roman?) to have 
those additional faces properly set up and present, too.

There's a long way to go in this, and I personally don't think it's worth a
lot of energy but it would be nice if we weren't prevented by Netscape 
politics from getting the Bitstream plugin that everybody else seems to 
have started using.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          28-Sep-99 16:20:09
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 16:15:08
Subj: Re: OS2 PDF Software

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:05:25, Michael Mahoney <mmahoney@eoni.com> a crit 
dans un message:
> 
> I bought a Color 40 a year ago and I too quickly determined that 4MB RAM
> was not nearly enough. I took a look at the prices of Lexmark RAM and
> nearly choked! I spoke to Lexmark tech support and determined all you
> need is a 72-pin SIMM RAM module (tin not gold contacts). I bought a
> 32MB SIMM from Micron/Crucial for a pittance of what Lexmark was
> charging. Has been working just fine ever since.

Good to know. I still haven't had time to pull the back and look at it, but
one of the tech specs says "ordinary SIMMS" which was what I went on when I
bought it.

The spec says it takes a max of 68MB of RAM. I've got some unused 32s and 
16s to play with, so we'll see. Thanks for the tip.


> 
> When I asked tech support why their RAM was so expensive I was told: "We
> have good memory." Well...duh! Micron gave me a lifetime warranty. What
> more do I need?

And to that the Level One Support Monkey said, "..."? (He/she's making $8 
an hour. The CEO insisting on that kind of corporate corruption makes 
$1,000,000 and up, probably, but never takes your phone calls.)

I'm pretty sick of manufacturers cutting prices to the bone when there's 
direct competition, and they have to, but then screwing the living shit out
of people who trust them enough to buy their products. There's no excuse 
for treating RAM as anything different from another product in their line.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void                      28-Sep-99 08:42:19
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 16:15:08
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman)

On 09/27/99 at 10:17 PM, L.WILLMS@LINK-F.frankfurt.org (Luko Willms) said:

>Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com (Jan Danielsson)

>JD> I am writing some documents on OS/2 development (multithreading, WPS
>JD> and PM) in Lotus WordPro. However, it seems that many users don't use
>JD> WordPro, so I want to make PDF:s from my documents.

>   I would prefer if you would not produce PDFs, but RTF (Rich Text  
>Format). I guess that WordPro can export to this format. It is text  
>based, contains the formatting tags, and can be imported by all (or at  
>least most) PC word processing programs.

Jan, you may be missing the obvious here.  Why not just write the document
in Lotus Word Pro, and save it as HTML.  At this point, HTML is nearly
universal.  Anyone reading this already has a browser capable of viewing
the document.  Nearly all modern word processors are capable of viewing it
as well.

Sander Nyman


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From: cm@warphouse.de                                   30-Sep-99 15:01:01
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 12:41:27
Subj: Re: CD file compare utiltiy

From: Carsten Mueller <cm@warphouse.de>

Hi Kim,

I don't know the program you mentioned, but maybe you can use my tool 
?Directory Differ?. It compares directories using the GNU-Diff 
software. See details about this freeware ?Directory Differ? on my web 
site www.warphouse.de

Carsten


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ursprngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Am 27.09.99, 14:51:08, schrieb "Kim Cheung" 
<kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com> zum Thema CD file compare utiltiy:


> There's a native OS/2 program out there that does a file by file 
compare of
> an entire CD after you burn it versas the original to make sure the CD 
is
> okay.   It's a command line tool and works very fast.   I used it once 
and
> lost it.

> Does anybody know where I can find it?

> Appreciate it.



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From: nospam@nospam.net                                 30-Sep-99 11:35:13
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 12:41:27
Subj: Re: Corrective Service 40

From: "nospam" <nospam@nospam.net>

Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote in message
news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-83tqwodG9jGV@man-084.dialup.zetnet.co.uk...

> > FWIW:  didn't read any readme files
> > before upgrading Linux, nor when I applied
> > service packs to Windows xx, and Windows NT.
> > Need I say more?
>
> No, you needn't. I think we have accurately gauged your level of
> professionalism and competence.
>
> --
> Bob Eager
> rde at tavi.co.uk

And what is your level of professionalism and competence?


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From: rob@schroeder.net                                 30-Sep-99 17:51:23
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 12:41:27
Subj: Would 10,000 be interested in a "HPFS for Windows 95/98"? 

From: Robert Schroeder <rob@schroeder.net>

Hello all!

I just had a few words with Mark Russinovich, Ph.D., Vice President of
Engineering, Winternals Software (http://www.winternals.com), and
developer of "NTFS for Windows 98"
(http://www.sysinternals.com/ntfs98.htm), the second beta of which
(freeware, expires 31-Oct) just came out today.

The final version will probably be marketed als commercial software
which would have to come somewhere in between their "FAT32 for NT"
($39) and "NTFSDOS Tools" ($89); a more exact statement will probably
follow some time soon.

"NTFS for Windows 98" ist a fully read/write capable NTFS driver fur
Windows 95/98, based on the original NTFS driver of Windows NT and its
exact code. That driver (ntfs.sys) is being incorporated with the help
of a wrapper, which rebuilds the IFS-relevant part of the NT
architecture under 95/98.

Mark seems to agree he might be able to provide an "HPFS for Windows
98" version with the help of the HPFS driver (pinball.sys) from NT
3.51 without having to do too much coding, but he said, "with OS/2
dead" he wouldn't want to spend any time at all on it.

(Remark: we tried to get the HPFS driver working instead of the NTFS
driver without any coding at all, unfortunately without success).

In a later reply, Mark wrote: "If you could prove to me that at least
10,000 people would be interested, then I might consider looking into 
it."

Is that something realistic?

Best,
Robert

(P.S.: Followups to comp.os.os2.misc)



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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               30-Sep-99 09:14:24
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 16:26:07
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Sorry, I had several typos which may give a false impression.
(Run the spellcheck Tim!)  Corrections below:

Tim Martin wrote:

> Using the RSU methid, the installation of IBM's latest

RSU METHOD

> FixPack release (FP12) was a piece of cake this morning.
> It is a little different than previous installations.  With
> this procedure I received a message that my system needed
> further updating and I was instruced to bring up the

was INSTRUCTED

>
> Window List (Control-Escape) and select (or run actually)
> a new update program.
>
> This took me into a full blank screen that went into a
> procedure much the same way Warp is originally
> installed.
>
> When it was over I was asked if I wanted to delete the
> unneeded files (said yes) and to then reboot.
>
> I'm back online and raring to go!  Here's my syslevel
> information:
>
> J:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK
>                            OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level
> Version 1.00     Component ID 566933010
> Type Fixpak
> Current CSD level: XR0M012
> Prior   CSD level: XR0M012
>
> As you can see, I'm not at FP12 level.  I DID NOT install the

I'm NOW at FP12 level.  My installation was a success!

>
> Device Driver FixPak1 (Yet) but may do so later today.
>
> I just want to assure all you OS/2 folks that the RSU method
> does work (now, it was not working late last night) and it
> appears IBM has now got this software update procedure
> working well.
>
> If YOU want to upgrade to FP12 go here:
>
> http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/softupd.html
>
> If they wanted to offer an upgrade to Warp 5 this way it
> would be very easy to do.
>
> Tim Martin
> The OS/2 Guy
> Warp City
> http://warpcity.com
> "E-ride the wild surf to Warp City.




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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               30-Sep-99 09:12:01
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 16:26:07
Subj: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Using the RSU methid, the installation of IBM's latest
FixPack release (FP12) was a piece of cake this morning.
It is a little different than previous installations.  With
this procedure I received a message that my system needed
further updating and I was instruced to bring up the
Window List (Control-Escape) and select (or run actually)
a new update program.

This took me into a full blank screen that went into a
procedure much the same way Warp is originally
installed.

When it was over I was asked if I wanted to delete the
unneeded files (said yes) and to then reboot.

I'm back online and raring to go!  Here's my syslevel
information:

J:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK
                           OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level
Version 1.00     Component ID 566933010
Type Fixpak
Current CSD level: XR0M012
Prior   CSD level: XR0M012

As you can see, I'm not at FP12 level.  I DID NOT install the
Device Driver FixPak1 (Yet) but may do so later today.

I just want to assure all you OS/2 folks that the RSU method
does work (now, it was not working late last night) and it
appears IBM has now got this software update procedure
working well.

If YOU want to upgrade to FP12 go here:

http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/softupd.html

If they wanted to offer an upgrade to Warp 5 this way it
would be very easy to do.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City.

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From: rob@schroeder.net                                 30-Sep-99 18:13:12
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 16:26:07
Subj: Re: IBM trying hard to kill us home users

From: Robert Schroeder <rob@schroeder.net>

"dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me> wrote:

> Why should we have to pay for browser and Java
> updates when Windows/Linux users get them free?

Because of having been able to get base OS update after update for 
years and years without having to pay anything at all. Similar Windows 
updates were and will be packaged as new versions you have to pay for. 
The main difference is you don't get a fancy cardboard box. What IBM 
just has announced is in fact something like a new Warp 5 client 
without name and box, coming in several pieces through Software Choice 
(and still through free FixPaks as well, for that matter). I don't 
like it either, since the past has been more convenient and more 
wallet-friendly there, but I'll probably subscribe without hesitating 
too much, and this time without developing too much anger about it.

BTW, when judging about whether Netscape Navigator or Java ought to be 
free for OS/2, at least for Navigator I'd say that this is the only 
platform for which the OS manufacturer in addition to Netscape 
themselves is investing a considerable amount of development efforts.

Cheers,
Rob



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From: askbill*AT*ibm.net                                01-Oct-99 01:00:14
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 16:26:07
Subj: Re: Would 10,000 be interested in a "HPFS for Windows 95/98"?

From: askbill*AT*ibm.net

In <19990930.17514765@ds9.more4u.de>, on 09/30/99 
   at 05:51 PM, Robert Schroeder <rob@schroeder.net> said:

>Hello all!

>I just had a few words with Mark Russinovich, Ph.D., Vice President of
>Engineering, Winternals Software (http://www.winternals.com), and
>developer of "NTFS for Windows 98"

*SNIP* stuff about how he goes about it...

>Mark seems to agree he might be able to provide an "HPFS for Windows 98"
>version with the help of the HPFS driver (pinball.sys) from NT 3.51
>without having to do too much coding, but he said, "with OS/2 dead" he
>wouldn't want to spend any time at all on it.

>(Remark: we tried to get the HPFS driver working instead of the NTFS
>driver without any coding at all, unfortunately without success).

>In a later reply, Mark wrote: "If you could prove to me that at least
>10,000 people would be interested, then I might consider looking into 
>it."

>Is that something realistic?

>Best,
>Robert

Hardly.  Doubt one could find even 100 people.

First of all, presuming the coding were found to be a non-trivial exercise
(it is not), HPFS would be very hard to support on Win-9X, which has a
hard enough time managing  a *simple* file system and SIMULATING blowing
its nose at the same time without crashing.

Secondly, there are no doubt a number of non-trivial IP and license
issues.

FInally - I have a hard time understanding why anyone would *WANT* to do
it.

By and large, WIN-9X folks have neither the need for, nor the interest in,
high-performance file systems in general or HPFS in particular.  There is
not even very much interest in HPFS under NT, where it is fairly easy to
implement (shipped included up thru NT 3.51).  Let us not forget, however, 
that the NT version of HPFS is not current.

I, for one, would be wholeheartedly ** OPPOSED ** to such a thing. HPFS
under WIN-9X?  Why would anyone want to open up a decent file system to
the probability of corruption (if not infection) by - of all things -
WIN-9X????

Presently my files are safe from virus and macro attacks because OS/2 is
safe, and
 nothing else can R/W to the HPFS drives.   Give WIN-9X the keys, and lots
of folks with dual-boot will find that they can now lose an entire diskful
of data, just like their poor relations running Win-XX.

Simple DOS tools to manage HPFS have a different purpose, as one can boot
DOS and have the maintenance tools on a single floppy - an event not
likely to happen with WIN-anything.

If the good Doctor Russinovich wants to write something *really* helpful,
how about a fix for the verdamnt SIQ?  That I would buy.  Several, even.

Working properly, it would not only NOT hang, it would NOT permit ANY app
to take the focus away from the guy at the keyboard (the one who paid for
all this stuff!)

Any app loading in the background would, thank you very much, STAY in the
background,
 NOT pop to the top while you are in the middle of doing something else.

Same for warnings, error messages, etc.  Set a blinking light in the
Warpcenter if need be, but DO NOT take my keyboard and screen until I get
around to you...

That sort of thing.....

Regards,

Bill Hacker

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From: bdavis@fn.net                                     30-Sep-99 18:02:20
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 16:26:07
Subj: Re: Corrective Service  40

From: bdavis@fn.net (Brian Davis)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 05:34:51, "nospam" <nospam@spam.net> wrote:

> 
> Trevor Hemsley <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
> news:geribeurzfyrlqvnycvcrkpbz.fiuji40.pminews@news.dial.pipex.com...
> > On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:09:34 -0400, nospam wrote:
> >
> > ->Anyone knows why installing the fixpack is such a hassle?
> >
> > Probably because you haven't read the readme files that come with it that
> > cover things like this...
> 
> 
> FWIW:  didn't read any readme files
> before upgrading Linux, nor when I applied
> service packs to Windows xx, and Windows NT.
> Need I say more?
> 
OS/2 isn't Linux or Windows, if it was it wouldn't be
OS/2. I don't mean the reply as a smart ass remark,
sometimes you gotta read and play by the rules.
Good luck.

Brian Davis (bdavis@fn.net)

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          30-Sep-99 18:23:21
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:07
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA DnD much better, but still not right

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:53:20, pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com (taiQ) a crit dans un 
message:
(gerschapt)
> > > I'd really like having my URL folders opening up in a view that 
> > > displays both the "directories" and the URLs themselves (the Macintosh
> > > way), but I'm growing old trying to find a way of achieving that under
> > > OS/2. 
> > 
> > You should try FileStar/2, then. You can see the directories in one
window,
> > and the contents of the selected directory in a "files" window. In the
case
> > of URLs, you see the "Name" field, and hitting Alt-Enter on any (or 
> > multiple) selected URLs, opens them nicely.
> 
> That wouldn't do it for me. Although DragText might allow for dragging
> files off FileStar/2 window (or even dropping onto FileStar/2 
> window?), 

I believe FS/2 is the one that handles that type of dragging.


> I prefer to have two relatively narrow folders open 

Granted, FS/2 is anything but narrow.

>  two relatively narrow folders open beside 
> the browser windows so picking up and dropping URLs and html files.

That's ideal, in my opinion.


> I 
> would very rarely open an URL with an Alt-Enter anyhow, as I keep 
> several browser windows open and want to decide with open window 
> should open that particular URL. Besides, now that I use both v2.02 
> and occasionally NC/2 4.61 (usage still hampered by its non-WPS-ness),
> if I open an URL I want to be able to choose the browser version 
> (RMB-Open As).

As I do. Then you'll have to make sure your latest NS Install hasn't 
hijacked all the associations for itself, as I notice 4.61 has just done to
my system. (Luckily, ASSOEDIT saves that day. Vunce again, it's Henk Kelder
to the rescue.)


> 
> For my other file management purposes Object Navigator works 
> adequately well, although FileStar/2 probably beats the hell out of it
> speedwise since it bypasses the WPS bottleneck.

No, I don't notice a speed difference from FS/2 to WPS, and had to dump the
seriously flawed Object Desktop long ago.

But you already knew that, so I'm repeating myself and being gratuitously 
redundant yet once more again.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: jan.hartman@fil.lu.se                             30-Sep-99 20:58:14
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:07
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: "Jan Hartman" <jan.hartman@fil.lu.se>

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:36:05 GMT, Jan Danielsson wrote:

:>>Me, I got destiller from adobe, and create a pdf-file from the
:>>postscript-
:>[...]
:>
:>Is 'destiller' free?
:>
:>
:> /j
:>

I really do not know. I upgraded my PageMaker just to get it:
it was cheaper than to get Acrobat. Anyway, it is annoying to
have to rebbot to Win95, but I only work there fore the 30 seconds
it takes to creat a 200 pages pdf-file. One reasonable idea is to
send a postscriptfile to someone who has destiller, and he can
easily do it. I would be happy to help out.

/ Jan


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From: jwhardy@ibm.net                                   30-Sep-99 14:00:14
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:07
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: "John W. Hardy" <jwhardy@ibm.net>

Brad;

I'm stuck at the "localhost" and "loopback interface" problem with a new
installation of DB2 Personal Edition V6.1 from CDROM (beats the heck out
of downloading it). In the TCP/IP Configuration notebook I keep
selecting "loopback interface", which adds 127.0.0.1 in the "IP address"
window, and adds a checkmark to the "Enable interface" box. I "Save" the
results, but each time I reopen the TCP/IP Configuration notebook the
settings are gone. Also, if there is a HOST file, I am unable to find
it.

There is a message upon starting DB2 that refers me to "NQREADME.TXT",
but I can't find that on any of the CDs either.

If I have to go back to the Warp CD to configure anything regarding
TCP/IP, will that screw up anything from Fixpack 11 or DB2 V6.1? Thanks
very much.

John

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From: jonphil@ibm.net                                   30-Sep-99 20:28:01
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:07
Subj: Re: JStreetMailer - what'sup?

From: Jon <jonphil@ibm.net>

I used to have JStreet Mailer but my PC crashed.
When I got round to logging back onto the site I found no reference to the
program at all, I tried to mail Innoval and heard nothing at all (if thats
idea of customer service!!!!).
Does anyone have a copy of the origonal release of the software, what's
more annoying is that fact I signed up to the Years upgrade program, and
what ever happend to that!!!????

Please help
Jonathan
jonphil@ibm.net
or jonphil@attbusiness.net (now IBM have sold off the Internet business
too)!

Bruce LaZerte wrote:

> I was disappointed to hear that Innoval has stopped development on this
> mailer, but pleased to hear that they are handing the code over to a
> (volunteer?) group who will maintain it.
>
> Where do I find out more about this?
>
> Thanks, Bruce L.
>
> ----------------------
> Bruce LaZerte
> Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
> freshwat at muskoka dot com

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    30-Sep-99 19:58:17
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:07
Subj: Re: IBM trying hard to kill us home users

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

dinkmeister (dink@dont.spam.me) wrote:

: Why should we have to pay for browser and Java
: updates when Windows/Linux users get them free?

	Easy.  Because OS/2 is not Windows or Linux.




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From: helle05@ibm.net                                   30-Sep-99 14:39:00
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:08
Subj: NS461: Drag 'n Drop/To and Fro

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <helle05@ibm.net>

Am wondering what may be wrong w/ dragging 'n
dropping to and from NS461 GA (128-bit security
version)...

NS _refuses_ to open .HTM/HTML files when I drag a
file's object to the NS window.  No error message,
just no response.  Reload doesn't come to the
rescue, either.  Any help/advice appreciated.

Am also baffled with the specific
requirement/condition for dragging  web pages to the
Desktop...can drag 'n drop _only_ work when dragging
the small icon left of the Location text field? 
(Didn't 2.02 support Cntrl-Right Mouse Button drag
to Desktop?)  This is rather kludgy...I'd much
rather be able to drag into a Folder. 

Any hints/tips to get acclimated to what NS 461 can
do re: drag 'n drop?

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From: edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com                       30-Sep-99 15:17:22
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:08
Subj: Re: Analog on OS/390

From: Edward Jaffe <edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com>

crct69a@my-deja.com wrote:
> 
> I am trying to find some installation documentation for Analog on the
> OS/390 platform. I have downloaded the OS/390 tar file from
> http://www.s390.ibm.com/ftp/os390/oe/port/analog/readme.html, and it
> references documentation at
> http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/analog/docs/start.html.
> Unfortunately  there is no reference to OS/390 platform installation
> instructions on this page. Was looking for information on the
> steps required to install the product,  where the configuration files
> are located, permissions required, etc.
> 
> The installation documentation at
> http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/analog/docs/start.html  lists
> directions for MAC, Windows, OS2, and Everyone Else (Solaris, HP, Sun,
> etc) but none for OS/390. If downloaded the tar file from the OS/390
> page but cannot locate the analog.cfg file to start the
> Configuration.

There is a list dedicated to running UNIX-based applications under
OS/390. Some of the people monitoring that list are the developers of
OS/390 Unix Systems Services. I suggest you check out
http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?mvs-oe and subscribe to the list.
Once subscribed, ask your question again and you will get much more help
than you will from an OS/2 news group.

-- 
| Edward E. Jaffe                  | Voice: (310) 338-0400 x318     |
| Mgr., Research & Development     | Fax:   (310) 338-0801          |
| Phoenix Software International   | edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com    |
| 5200 W. Century Blvd., Suite 800 | USS24J24 at IBMMAIL            |
| Los Angeles, CA 90045            | http://www.phoenixsoftware.com |

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From: danielh@crosslink.net                             30-Sep-99 19:22:23
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:08
Subj: FP 12 and UNZIP

From: danielh@crosslink.net

I managed to install FP 12 (I like to download and unzip, and the run os2serv
later), but
I ran into two problems.

1) The installation program complains about not being able to unzip a file
(FTPINSTL?), and stops.
It turns out that I have unzip 5.40; when I dug up a copy of  UNZIP 5.2 and
copied it to 
$RSUTMP$, the problem went away.  BTW: I recollect this problem also existed
in fp 11.

2) When I ran os2serv, it complained about not being able to create a
4\ARCHIVE ... (or something like
that) directory. When I renamed an existing \ARCHIVE directory (to \ARC0), the 
problem went away.

Otherwise, an esay install. I like that it can recover from "deleted archive
directory" (no more need to 
find and remove LOGF0000.* files).  And the download from ibm was fast!


-----------------------------------------------------------
danielh@crosslink.net
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: danielh@crosslink.net                             30-Sep-99 19:31:13
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:08
Subj: fp 12 note: rexx ea problem solved

From: danielh@crosslink.net

btw: fp12 solves EPM's "ea > 32k" bug .
-- 
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danielh@crosslink.net
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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               30-Sep-99 23:01:00
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Tim Martin schrieb:
> 
> Sorry, I had several typos which may give a false impression.
> (Run the spellcheck Tim!)  Corrections below:

He he. Yeah, sometimes those darn old fingers will have their own way,
won't they?

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     30-Sep-99 21:08:05
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

In <37F38BD2.809D2527@WarpCity.com>, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> writes:
--snip--
>If they wanted to offer an upgrade to Warp 5 this way it
>would be very easy to do.

Tim,

Well, it might be easy for IBM to do, and the process might be simple
(e.g.  straightforward) for the end-user, but it would take a bit
_longer_ than downloading a FixPak.  <grin>

    "A hundred diskettes of Warp on the site,
     A hundred diskettes of Warp.
     Download one and serve it around,
     Ninety-nine diskettes of warp on the site."

Gawd... just had a truly horrible thought. Is anyone out there using a 
2400 Baud modem?   <grin... I _hope_!>


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net                            30-Sep-99 21:23:00
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)

Thanks for the info, Tim.

Now why can't you always be like this?
This is actually a cool (as in hip) and professional post.

(I didn't even notice the spelling errors :^) )


On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:12:03, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:

> Using the RSU methid, the installation of IBM's latest
> FixPack release (FP12) was a piece of cake this morning.
> It is a little different than previous installations.  With
> this procedure I received a message that my system needed
> further updating and I was instruced to bring up the
> Window List (Control-Escape) and select (or run actually)
> a new update program.
> 
> This took me into a full blank screen that went into a
> procedure much the same way Warp is originally
> installed.
> 
> When it was over I was asked if I wanted to delete the
> unneeded files (said yes) and to then reboot.
> 
> I'm back online and raring to go!  Here's my syslevel
> information:
> 
> J:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK
>                            OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level
> Version 1.00     Component ID 566933010
> Type Fixpak
> Current CSD level: XR0M012
> Prior   CSD level: XR0M012
> 
> As you can see, I'm not at FP12 level.  I DID NOT install the
> Device Driver FixPak1 (Yet) but may do so later today.
> 
> I just want to assure all you OS/2 folks that the RSU method
> does work (now, it was not working late last night) and it
> appears IBM has now got this software update procedure
> working well.
> 
> If YOU want to upgrade to FP12 go here:
> 
> http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/softupd.html
> 
> If they wanted to offer an upgrade to Warp 5 this way it
> would be very easy to do.
> 
> Tim Martin
> The OS/2 Guy
> Warp City
> http://warpcity.com
> "E-ride the wild surf to Warp City.
> 

Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
=======================================================
If we could have our cake _and_ eat it,
people would start whining about seconds.
=======================================================

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 30-Sep-99 20:16:17
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: Would 10,000 be interested in a "HPFS for Windows 95/98"?

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <37f445ae$1$nfxovyy$mr2ice@news1.ibm.net>, askbill*AT*ibm.net writes:
>In <19990930.17514765@ds9.more4u.de>, on 09/30/99 
>   at 05:51 PM, Robert Schroeder <rob@schroeder.net> said:
>
>>Hello all!
>
>>I just had a few words with Mark Russinovich, Ph.D., Vice President of
>>Engineering, Winternals Software (http://www.winternals.com), and
>>developer of "NTFS for Windows 98"
>
>*SNIP* stuff about how he goes about it...
>
>>Mark seems to agree he might be able to provide an "HPFS for Windows 98"
>>version with the help of the HPFS driver (pinball.sys) from NT 3.51
>>without having to do too much coding, but he said, "with OS/2 dead" he
>>wouldn't want to spend any time at all on it.
>
>>(Remark: we tried to get the HPFS driver working instead of the NTFS
>>driver without any coding at all, unfortunately without success).
>
>>In a later reply, Mark wrote: "If you could prove to me that at least
>>10,000 people would be interested, then I might consider looking into 
>>it."
>
>>Is that something realistic?
>
>>Best,
>>Robert
>
>Hardly.  Doubt one could find even 100 people.
>
snippersed>

>FInally - I have a hard time understanding why anyone would *WANT* to do
>it.
>
>By and large, WIN-9X folks have neither the need for, nor the interest in,
>high-performance file systems in general or HPFS in particular.  There is
>not even very much interest in HPFS under NT, where it is fairly easy to
>implement (shipped included up thru NT 3.51).  Let us not forget, however, 
>that the NT version of HPFS is not current.
>
>

from the evidence here, most OS/2 users who also use an MS OS use NT.
HPFS support in NT is already easy to install. 100 buyers might be a 
generous estimate ?


>If the good Doctor Russinovich wants to write something *really* helpful,
>how about a fix for the verdamnt SIQ?  That I would buy.  Several, even.
>
>Working properly, it would not only NOT hang, it would NOT permit ANY app
>to take the focus away from the guy at the keyboard (the one who paid for
>all this stuff!)
>
>Any app loading in the background would, thank you very much, STAY in the
>background,
> NOT pop to the top while you are in the middle of doing something else.
>
>Same for warnings, error messages, etc.  Set a blinking light in the
>Warpcenter if need be, but DO NOT take my keyboard and screen until I get
>around to you...
>

Mr Hacker, I'd like to officially welcome you to the "Too Stupid to 
Discriminate Between Roses and Dog Shit Society."  We have meetings 
on the third Wednesday of each month, trying to find answers for
problems with OS/2 which, of course, do not exist. IBM, as we all know, is 
in BUSINESS to increase their BOTTOM LINE, when they're not so-kindly 
spending .00001% of their net for worthy charities to improve the condition 
of businesskind.

As a member of Too Stupid, we'd like to remind you NOT to comprehend 
IBM press releases  informing you that :

" IBM's newest, worldwide, e-business initiative
  establishes business intelligence as the next
  major wave of e-business. The initiative includes
  new relationship marketing solutions for small and
  medium businesses;

"  IBM's FastStart Program for business intelligence
  enables businesses with limited resources 

(remember, SOHO is clearly NOT IBM's market)

"  IBM SecureWay* Firewall Version 4.1 for Windows NT
   strengthens e-mail protection and security for Internet 
   multimedia applications. 

"RealNetworks, Inc.'s RealSystem** G2 streaming
  media delivery system has been integrated with
  Lotus Notes** and Domino R5, allowing users to
  view, create, and stream media in rich multimedia
  applications. RealSystem G2 integration, via IBM
  HotMedia* Connect for Domino, is included at no
  charge in Notes and Domino.

(Multimedia is NOT a BUSINESS requirement)

"  Join the "Planning for Windows 2000" Web broadcast
  on 13 October, the first in a series of four
  presented by IBM and Windows NT Magazine, to hear
  how to make seamless transition to Windows 2000**.

"Worldwide IBM Seminars about Windows
  2000 Begin in Europe in Late October
  IBM's Windows 2000 offerings will range across the
  spectrum of system software and applications for
  all types of industries and businesses.

"  Come to an IBM seminar about Windows 2000 for
  information about how Windows 2000 works

"  A complimentary, half-day, executive seminar,

"A simplified pricing model for DB2 Spatial Extender

"RealSystem G2 integration, via IBM HotMedia* Connect 
  for Domino, is included at no charge

"  IBM has officially launched developerWorks*, a
  free, online resource that helps developers to
  build better software. The new Open Source Zone,
  a forum for all of IBM's open source projects,
  allows developers to submit changes and fixes to
  code. The revamped Security Zone provides more
  complete information about writing secure code.

( IBM HAS to charge for OS/2 Java and Netscape, they are in 
BUSINESS to make money.)


and the Society Motto, 
"Hooray ! IBM gives *us* free fixpacks ! Hare hare IBM ! Duh"

(don't forget to wear your pocket protector)

>
>Regards,
>
>Bill Hacker
>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>askbill@ibm.net (William B. Hacker, III)
>
>Titanic '12   NYSE '29   Windows '95 and subsequent.....
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>


--
Hrad ngravvrd


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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           30-Sep-99 20:29:12
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:02:01, Siobhan Perricone 
<morgannalefey@my-deja.com> wrote:

> Is there any way I can get it to restore *all* the files?  Do I need to
> do it from a command line?
> 

Yes. If your configuration has files that BA/2 cannot back up, you 
need to do the backup from the command line too, or close the programs
that are using those files while the backup takes place.

I have never even tried the standalone backup, since I don't need it. 
The Command line Restore is a little hard to figure out, but it is 
relatively easy, once you figure out a few basics.

1) To specify ALL of the files use the wildcard "*" ( that's the 
asterisk - upper case 8 - no quotes, of course), with no periods. (*.*
will NOT restore files that do not have an extension).
2) Make a set of Boot diskettes, since even just running in command 
line mode will lock some files on restore. (I use, and prefer, BOOT 
OS/2 - look for BTOS290.ZIP, in the usual places). Make sure it has 
the support for your backup device. You may need to do some fooling 
around to get all of the updated drivers etc. to fit on the diskettes.
There has been much discussion about this problem, check out DEJANEWS 
for more information.
3) Make a diskette with the BA/2 "recommended" list of required files 
on it (don't use the BA/2 utility to modify the Utility diskettes, 
there isn't enough room on them). The list is in the book.

Now, you are ready to do a command line restore, from a diskette boot.
1)Boot OS/2 from the diskettes.
2) When you get to the command prompt, put your BA/2 diskette into the
drive, and type CLREST, with no parameters. This starts the program in
interactive mode. (You can use it from the command line, but that is 
very limited).
3) Now, this is where it gets confusing. You can restore the whole 
system, or just a single file, without loading a Catalog, but, if you 
do that, and the single file is on diskette 25, of 50, it will search 
through ALL of the diskettes to find the file (not a problem, if you 
are doing every file, since it needs to do that anyway).
4) Load the Catalog (if you have it), which should configure the 
backup device etc.  Select your backup device: Group-> Device (very 
similar to the GUI version of restore), if you don't use the Catalog.
5) Create the restore Patterns: Patterns-> Include (or Exclude, as 
required)-> Add-> fill in the required information (a single asterisk 
for everything)-> use the space bar to toggle Include directories-> 
OK. Do as much of this as required, then click OK.
6) Now you can do the restore by File-> Restore and follow the 
directions (or just watch, depending on what your backup device is).

You can use the command line programs from a command line window (for 
practice). I suggest using the CLBACK program (I think this is quite 
straight forward. CLBACK -help will give you the information), to 
create a backup (use a disk file for output, since this is much faster
than most other devices), to backup a test directory (small backup), 
then erase the test directory, and use CLREST to restore it. Make 
notes, since the instructions won't be very comprehensive once you get
into this "in real life". Work with this, until you feel comfortable 
that it will do what you want, then try it from a diskette boot (with 
the small test backup), and you real backup device, to make sure it 
all works as you expect. If this won't work for you, you will need to 
look for a different backup program.

Oh, by the way, you can ignore the guy who will tell you that BA/2 is 
a piece of crap, and should never be used. It doesn't work for 
everybody, but MOST people can use it, and it works very well, for 
those who can.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               30-Sep-99 22:51:12
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: Partition Magic question

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

PM4 does not run under OS/2. So if you run it under DOS it will suffer
from DOS limitations (1024 cylindres). However, I had no problems
running it from Win9x. And it does support ext2fs.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               30-Sep-99 16:53:29
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

"John W. Hardy" wrote:
> 
> Brad;
> 
> I'm stuck at the "localhost" and "loopback interface" problem with a new
> installation of DB2 Personal Edition V6.1 from CDROM (beats the heck out
> of downloading it). In the TCP/IP Configuration notebook I keep
> selecting "loopback interface", which adds 127.0.0.1 in the "IP address"
> window, and adds a checkmark to the "Enable interface" box. I "Save" the
> results, but each time I reopen the TCP/IP Configuration notebook the
> settings are gone. Also, if there is a HOST file, I am unable to find
> it.

	First, check that you have a SETUP.CMD file in your \MPTN\BIN directory
with the following line in it:

			ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1

	If not, add one there (it usually goes near the top, just after any
route and arp statements).  Or, you can run this from the command line,
or from any other batch file (however, the TCP/IP config usually puts it
in the file mentioned above).

	As for your HOSTS file, this should be in your %ETC% directory (type
"SET ETC" on a command prompt to see what directory this is set to -
usually it's \MPTN\ETC).  If you don't have one, make one with whatever
text editor you like, and add the following line:

			127.0.0.1             localhost    

	...and save it.  Also make certain you have the following statement set
(usually in the CONFIG.SYS):

			SET USE_HOSTS_FIRST=1

	This should get you all ready and setup to use your localhost
"adapter".
 
> There is a message upon starting DB2 that refers me to "NQREADME.TXT",
> but I can't find that on any of the CDs either.

	I will e-mail you a copy of this file.

> If I have to go back to the Warp CD to configure anything regarding
> TCP/IP, will that screw up anything from Fixpack 11 or DB2 V6.1? Thanks
> very much.

	It shouldn't.  TCP/IP fixes are packaged seperately from the rest of
the base operating system, so they aren't included in your standard
fixpak.  None of this should have any effect on DB2 - however I'd only
do tihs as a last resort option, and only if I had a decent backup of my
boot partition (just in case).

Brad BARCLAY	

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            30-Sep-99 17:32:23
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: OS20MEMU stopped working after FP40 (WARP 3)

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <37F3505C.2F77FE9E@gmx.net>, Markus Quandt <Markus.Quandt@gmx.net> writes:
>
>I don't think this is true. What I found was that one of the
>IBM1S506.ADD releases (and those do come in the fixpacks, too) broke
>OS20MEMU! To get it working again, use, for example, the DANIS506.ADD
>replacement, or get an SCSI system :-), or use an older IBM1S506.ADD if
>you only have smaller IDE drives, so that you don't need the fixes in
>the newer releases of that driver.
>I think the problem is the zombie DOS VDM that is started by the newer
>IBM1S506.ADD drivers at initialisation, but cannot prove this. I once
>had a very short newsgroup conversation with Sam Detweiler about this,
>must have been 1997 or so, when the problem started even with Warp 4?
>
>I didn't try it on my new machine (128 MB RAM, SCSI only), but I shall
>do this soon, and report back if it fails. Assume it works if you don't
>see me posting again.
>

Interesting thought.  Except that I'm using VIAIDE.ADD instead of
IBM1S506.ADD.  I'll give DANIS506.ADD a try when I get a chance to see
what happens.

----
Jeff

   Heavier than air flying machines are impossible.
         --- Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Society, c. 1895

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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  30-Sep-99 15:15:21
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: Analog on OS/390

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

Ooops...  OS/390 is the successor to MVS/ESA, an operating system that
runs on large IBM mainframes.  If you have a few spare $100M, you can
get hardware to run it.

crct69a@my-deja.com wrote:
> 
> I am trying to find some installation documentation for Analog on the
> OS/390 platform. I have downloaded the OS/390 tar file from
> http://www.s390.ibm.com/ftp/os390/oe/port/analog/readme.html, and it
> references documentation at
> http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/analog/docs/start.html.
> Unfortunately  there is no reference to OS/390 platform installation
> instructions on this page. Was looking for information on the
> steps required to install the product,  where the configuration files
> are located, permissions required, etc.
> 
> The installation documentation at
> http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/analog/docs/start.html  lists
> directions for MAC, Windows, OS2, and Everyone Else (Solaris, HP, Sun,
> etc) but none for OS/390. If downloaded the tar file from the OS/390
> page but cannot locate the analog.cfg file to start the
> Configuration.
> 
> I have also subscribed to the analog-help subscription.
> 
> Thank you
> Jeff
> Jeffrey.S.Horton@mci.com
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: jeffos2@mindspring.com                            30-Sep-99 17:40:25
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: OS20MEMU stopped working after FP40 (WARP 3)

From: jeffos2@mindspring.com (Jeffery Swagger)

In <37F3789C.4CB178A9@gmx.net>, Markus Quandt <Markus.Quandt@gmx.net> writes:
>Markus Quandt schrieb:
>Ok, ok, here I'm again... But the news aren't so bad: It does work, but
>not with some applications. I.e., the initial screen is displayed, the
>System Details screen is fine, most processes can by displayed in detail
>view (F4 key), but it breaks down if you want to display the Netscape
>process (4.61 GA). In fact, this is the only app so far that will have
>OS20MEMU bomb out on my system (with an unknown error in OS20MEMU.DLL,
>no entry in POPUPLOG). All O2/2 system processes including PMSHELL are
>fine, also WordPro, didn't try others.
>
>So it's worth a try if you can live without the fixed IBM1S506.ADD.
>

Yes, the top of the screen has what is presumably correct data.
However, the bottom half is suppose to list all the processes.  It's
blank.  More importantly to me is that the OS20MEMU API interface that
PMPatrol uses is non-functional.

Again this is on a 128MB system.  Previously worked when RAM was only
24MB.

----
Jeff

   Heavier than air flying machines are impossible.
         --- Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Society, c. 1895

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               30-Sep-99 23:25:00
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: XFree86, GIMP and GhostScript????

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Ray Appleby schrieb:
> 
> I installed the X11 version (from Hobbes) of GhostScript branching
> from the root directory of XFree86 (retaining the paths in the ZIP)
> but when I try to open an EPS file, I get the message "Can't find
> gs_init.ps".
> 
> I can't find any references to setup (expected directories, etc) and
> several searches of DEJA didn't bring up anything I could hang my hat
> on.
> 
> What is the proper setup for GhostScript under XFree86?
> 
> Is it possible to use a later version of GhostScript (without
> compiling the code)?

Yeah. There is 5.50. In this version you can't use anti-aliasing in X
however. Have a look at
http://www.ime.rwth-aachen.de/~michael/os2/ghostscript/index.html

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               30-Sep-99 15:02:14
  To: jonphil@ibm.net                                   01-Oct-99 02:22:09
Subj: Re: JStreetMailer - what'sup?

To: jonphil@ibm.net
From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Jon wrote:

> I used to have JStreet Mailer but my PC crashed.
> When I got round to logging back onto the site I found no reference to the
> program at all, I tried to mail Innoval and heard nothing at all (if thats
> idea of customer service!!!!).

InnoVal announced (last month?) the free release of all of
their OS/2 programs as well as a universal registration codes.
Paul vanKeep of Sumatra Software has assembled a group
of superior Java programmers who are now dubbed "The
JStreet Band" and they have picked up development.  Paul
(vanKeep)  is an amazing Java programmer and whips out
new features, upgrades, bug fixes in hours.

JSM is now THE BEST 100% Java Emailer available and
it is completely free.  Incredibly fast and feature laden. There
is  no other Java emailer that can equal it at the moment.

AND - ALL JStreet upgrades are free.

> Does anyone have a copy of the origonal release of the software, what's
> more annoying is that fact I signed up to the Years upgrade program, and
> what ever happend to that!!!????

Obtain the original release from Hobbes, here:

ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/java/apps/internet/mail/jstreet.zip

The registration code should be found in the readme.

Obtain the latest upgrade from The J Street Emailer Site
here:  http://paul.vanKeep.com/jstreet/

Join the J Street Mailing List for help, news and other
information here:
http://www.sumatra.nl:81/guest/RemoteAvailableLists

> Please help
> Jonathan
> jonphil@ibm.net
> or jonphil@attbusiness.net (now IBM have sold off the Internet business
> too)!

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"

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From: clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk                        01-Oct-99 01:31:18
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:09
Subj: Re: Reinstalling Win95 with OS2

From: "Clive" <clive@cee3DOTdemonDOTco.uk>

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:20:14 -0400, John Griffin wrote:

:>just install 95/98 like usuall and it will indeed ill boot manager but its
:>still there...once 95/98 is installed use fdisk to reset the boot manager
:>partion to active, reboot and there you go your back in buisness....
:>(i dont want to sound like a know it all, someone in here told me how and
:>i dont remember his name) but is on some os2 pages....
:>


..BUT, since you have OS/2 on E, do NOT install FAT32.  This will render the
partition invisible to BM and screw up your drive letter assignations (as I
hade only just found out (fortunately, PartionMagic was able to convert FAT32
back to FAT which gave Bootmanager a C drive thus reviving E..)

,c.



:>"A. Willard Reese" wrote:
:>
:>> I have Win311 on a primary (C) Dos partition and Win95 on a primary
:>> (C) partition on the same hard drive.
:>> D partition is a logical Dos partition.
:>> E (OS2 Warp 4.0) is an HPFS partition.
:>> I am using OS2 Boot Manager which is the first partition on the
:>> physical drive.
:>>
:>> My problem is that Win 95 has become corrupted (not unexpected) and I
:>> must do a reinstall of Win95 from the cdrom.  I don't exactally
:>> remember how I first set this up and how it affected Boot Manager.  If
:>> I proceed with a normal Win 95 installation will it delete Boot
:>> Manager?  How do I then reinstall Boot Manager?  Will it automatically
:>> install in the primary C drive which presently contains Win95?  Am I
:>> apt to loose my Win 311 primary partition?
:>> I guess the question is "how do I proceed to reinstall Win95 (ugh)
:>> without affecting any of the other partitions (including boot manager)
:>> and especially OS2"?
:>> Thanks in advance for any help.
:>> Willard
:>
:>--
:>If Your Not Using OS/2 Your Working Too Hard
:>
:>



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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          01-Oct-99 00:47:21
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:09
Subj: Re: Corrective Service  40

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 05:34:51, "nospam" <nospam@spam.net> wrote:

:
:Trevor Hemsley <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
:news:geribeurzfyrlqvnycvcrkpbz.fiuji40.pminews@news.dial.pipex.com...
:> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:09:34 -0400, nospam wrote:
:>
:> ->Anyone knows why installing the fixpack is such a hassle?
:>
:> Probably because you haven't read the readme files that come with it that
:> cover things like this...
:
:
:FWIW:  didn't read any readme files
:before upgrading Linux, nor when I applied
:service packs to Windows xx, and Windows NT.
:Need I say more?

 No, you don't.

-- 
Anthropomorphic Hamburger

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From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@ibm.net                     30-Sep-99 19:12:22
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:09
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: yyyc186.illegaltospam@ibm.net

In <7stnmu$h7b$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 09/29/99 
   at 07:02 PM, Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com> said:

The short answer is that BA/2 is a poorly written unreliable puddle of
excriment.

The long answer is NEVER trust a "utility" vendor that ooh's and aaah's
over how pretty its screens are and never ever instructions you on the
correct method of doing a backup.

The only correct method of doing a backup is to boot from alternate media
(like utility floppies) and backup while no files are open on any of the
drives you wish to backup.  In the trades this is known as an image backup
because it is a TRUE image of the drive as it is.

Return the piece of sh*t you have and obtain a copy of BackupWiz from PCX
software.  A MUCH more reliable backup package, and it ships with an older
copy of BOOTOS2 going to great length to instruct you that this is the
only method any software can use to get reliable backups.

There is nothing you can really do to recover from this.  Your backup
solution simply doesn't work.

Roland

>I received Back Again/2, installed it with no problem, did a back up with
>little problem, and tried to do a restore with some problems. :)

>I seem to remember when I was wandering through the back up discussion
>archives that there was some talk about files that don't get backed up
>because they're open, or can't be restored for a similar reason.

>I'm having that problem now.  When I did a full back up on my C: drive
>(OS/2 Warp 4 FP10), there were about four or five files it said it
>couldn't open, so I had it skip them.  Then when I tried doing a full
>restore of all the files, there's a whole log full of tons of files that
>couldn't be restored because they couldn't be opened.

>I've read the manual, but it's pretty spare on talking about this sort of
>thing.  I haven't gotten to the web site yet, but I was just there a few
>days ago, and there wasn't much there.

>Is there any way I can get it to restore *all* the files?  Do I need to
>do it from a command line?

>--
>Siobhan Perricone
>PC Technician
>Alltel Information Services
>(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
-- 
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                            MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.52
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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           30-Sep-99 23:54:09
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:09
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

Frank McKenney wrote:
> 

[***SNIP!!!***]

> Gawd... just had a truly horrible thought. Is anyone out there using a
> 2400 Baud modem?   <grin... I _hope_!>
> 
> Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
> Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
> E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

Eeek!!! Reminds me of the days of using a teletype terminal on a 110
baud modem back in university!

Can you imagine even browsing the web that way?
-- 

============================================================
To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers"
portion of the Reply to: value.

Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
Voix:        (613) 531-8767   Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935
Telecopieur: (613) 531-8684   Email: kahnt@adan.kingston.net

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                30-Sep-99 20:58:24
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:09
Subj: Re: Netscape Support [was: Re: Two e-mail addresses?

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

Graham C. Norris wrote:
>
> Dale Erwin wrote:
> > I looked at my message after I posted it, and I was sure someone was
> > going to think that I was trying to access some web site without
> > having connected to the internet.  That is not case.  Communicator
> > gives this message in all cases whether I am connected or not.
> > verson 2.02 gives this message when I'm not connected, but accesses
> > whatever server just fine when I am connected.  For some reason, and
> > I can't think of what it might be, Communicator is NOT finding my
> > connection, or so it would appear.
>
> Ok, so how are you starting NS 2.02 and NS 4.xx? I'm thinking along the
> lines that one of 'em is picking up the wrong files (DLLs in particular)
> from the PATH/LIBPATH. Or that one of them is started automatically from
> a dialer and the other not, and that may make a difference.
>
> Graham.
 
Both started the same way (neither is started from a dialer) by
clicking on the icon shadow in the Tab Launchpad.  Sometimes I start
them by opening their respective folders and double-clicking the
icon in the folder, but the results are the same.

I have been going thru my config.sys backups from the time the product
was first installed.  It seems that when I installed Visual Age COBOL
the install placed its directories at the beginning of the PATH and
LIBPATH concatenations and also put a "." at the very beginning.  I
notice a remark in some of them that this "." can't be in front of
Netscape\Java11.

Is there any requirement that the directory be named NETSCAPE?

Just wanted to add one more thing:  I uninstalled both 2.02 and 4.04
before installing 4.61.
--
Dale Erwin
3624 Coral Gables Drive
Dallas, Texas 75229-2619
(214)893-8738

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From: jwhardy@ibm.net                                   30-Sep-99 22:10:11
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:09
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: "John W. Hardy" <jwhardy@ibm.net>

Brad;

Basically, I am now up and running. THANK YOU! There is only one minor
problem at this point: When I try to view the sample database, there is
a "DB2 Message" that says: 

     The node name "DB2" specified in the command is not valid. 

(SQL1019N)

But it does not seem to affect anything after I "close" that message
box. Anyway, here is what I did to get running:

> First, check that you have a SETUP.CMD file in your \MPTN\BIN directory
> with the following line in it:
> 
>                         ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1

It is already there.

> As for your HOSTS file, this should be in your %ETC% directory (type
> "SET ETC" on a command prompt to see what directory this is set to -
> usually it's \MPTN\ETC).  If you don't have one, make one with whatever
> text editor you like, and add the following line:
> 
>                         127.0.0.1             localhost

Did not exist. I made it and stored is as "HOSTS.CMD". Is this correct?
Is the number of spaces between "127.0.0.1" and "localhost" important?
And, to split hairs, should there be a CR/LF at the end of that line?
(Thigs seem to finally be working as originally typed, with one space,
no CR/LF)

> Also make certain you have the following statement set
> (usually in the CONFIG.SYS):
> 
>                         SET USE_HOSTS_FIRST=1

Did not exist. I added it to CONFIG.SYS, right after the line "SET
HOSTNAME=localhost".

Unfortunately, when I tried to access the "Information Center" I got the
"DB2 Message":

   [IBM][JDBC Driver] CLI061E Error opening socket
   SQLSTATE=08S01

There was also an icon with the circle/slash symbol (as if to say "NO")
over a piece of paper, with the caption below it "CLI0616E".

URGENT UPDATE: I just tried it again, and it worked. I added the IP
address "127.0.0.1" and "localhost" to the "Configure Name Resolution"
page of the TCP/IP Configuration, per the instructions via Information
Center. It was after this, and another reboot that everything (except
minor problem above) is basically working.

2nd minor problem: The TCP/IP notebook still comes up with no interface
selected each time I open it. I have not tried any TCP/IP updates yet.

Thanks for the great help. BTW, the CD package for DB2 V6.1 is great! So
much stuff. I look forward to getting it up and running. Thank you.

John

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From: drowelf@nospamvnet.net                            30-Sep-99 22:23:29
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:09
Subj: WinOs/2 Printing now has Blobs

From: "Eric A. Erickson" <drowelf@nospamvnet.net>

All of a sudden all my printing for some WinOs/2 Apps now have black blobs and 
lines on it.
I have not made any configuration changes that I'm aware of it, but really
need to get this
fixed. 

Any clues. 

BTW, this is using a deskjet 520 and the omni driver.


Elvish Software Foundry, Inc.    		- Internet:  drowelf@vnet.net
IBM Certified OS/2 Warp Engineer 	- IBMLink:   HONE81(ESFISA1)
IBM Certified OS2/ Warp Developer & Associate Visual Age C++ Developer
'Already where I want to be Today 	- Voice/Fax: (281)-398-2625 <-Newe'


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From: gayleburnettNOgaSPAM@earthlink.n...               30-Sep-99 20:30:25
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:09
Subj: Netscape 4.61- too slow

Message sender: gayleburnettNOgaSPAM@earthlink.net.invalid

From: gayleb <gayleburnettNOgaSPAM@earthlink.net.invalid>

Is there anything I can do to speed up Netscape
4.61? It seems slower than 4.04.


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From: askbill*AT*ibm.net                                01-Oct-99 11:36:12
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:09
Subj: Re: Would 10,000 be interested in a "HPFS for Windows 95/98"?

From: askbill*AT*ibm.net

In <c1.01.2SN8jb$0AH@hamei.pacbell.net>, on 09/30/99 
   at 08:16 PM, hamei@pacbell.net said:

>In <37f445ae$1$nfxovyy$mr2ice@news1.ibm.net>, askbill*AT*ibm.net writes:
>>In <19990930.17514765@ds9.more4u.de>, on 09/30/99 
>>   at 05:51 PM, Robert Schroeder <rob@schroeder.net> said:
>>
>>>Hello all!
>>
>>>I just had a few words with Mark Russinovich, Ph.D., Vice President of
>>>Engineering, Winternals Software (http://www.winternals.com), and
>>>developer of "NTFS for Windows 98"
>>
>>*SNIP* stuff about how he goes about it...
>>
>>>Mark seems to agree he might be able to provide an "HPFS for Windows 98"
>>>version with the help of the HPFS driver (pinball.sys) from NT 3.51
>>>without having to do too much coding, but he said, "with OS/2 dead" he
>>>wouldn't want to spend any time at all on it.
>>
>>>(Remark: we tried to get the HPFS driver working instead of the NTFS
>>>driver without any coding at all, unfortunately without success).
>>
>>>In a later reply, Mark wrote: "If you could prove to me that at least
>>>10,000 people would be interested, then I might consider looking into 
>>>it."
>>
>>>Is that something realistic?
>>
>>>Best,
>>>Robert
>>
>>Hardly.  Doubt one could find even 100 people.
>>
>snippersed>

>>FInally - I have a hard time understanding why anyone would *WANT* to do
>>it.
>>
>>By and large, WIN-9X folks have neither the need for, nor the interest in,
>>high-performance file systems in general or HPFS in particular.  There is
>>not even very much interest in HPFS under NT, where it is fairly easy to
>>implement (shipped included up thru NT 3.51).  Let us not forget, however, 
>>that the NT version of HPFS is not current.
>>
>>

>from the evidence here, most OS/2 users who also use an MS OS use NT.
>HPFS support in NT is already easy to install. 100 buyers might be a 
>generous estimate ?


>>If the good Doctor Russinovich wants to write something *really* helpful,
>>how about a fix for the verdamnt SIQ?  That I would buy.  Several, even.
>>
>>Working properly, it would not only NOT hang, it would NOT permit ANY app
>>to take the focus away from the guy at the keyboard (the one who paid for
>>all this stuff!)
>>
>>Any app loading in the background would, thank you very much, STAY in the
>>background,
>> NOT pop to the top while you are in the middle of doing something else.
>>
>>Same for warnings, error messages, etc.  Set a blinking light in the
>>Warpcenter if need be, but DO NOT take my keyboard and screen until I get
>>around to you...
>>

>Mr Hacker, I'd like to officially welcome you to the "Too Stupid to 
>Discriminate Between Roses and Dog Shit Society."  We have meetings  on
>the third Wednesday of each month, trying to find answers for problems
>with OS/2 which, of course, do not exist. IBM, as we all know, is  in
>BUSINESS to increase their BOTTOM LINE, when they're not so-kindly 
>spending .00001% of their net for worthy charities to improve the
>condition  of businesskind.

>As a member of Too Stupid, we'd like to remind you NOT to comprehend  IBM
>press releases  informing you that :

>" IBM's newest, worldwide, e-business initiative
>  establishes business intelligence as the next
>  major wave of e-business. The initiative includes
>  new relationship marketing solutions for small and
>  medium businesses;

*SNIP* Lots of IBM lies.......

Harald,

Thanks.  I was an early member of the "Too Stoopid" society.

Came with the proficiency rating for the Western Electric M33 FDC. - if we
could build a vacuum-tube analog computer in the 1950's  that could still
accurately hit a bomber with 10% of its tubes missing, - why do Wintel
machines have to be rebooted - ever?
(M33 was replaced with a modified PDP-8 - which provided for  reducing
both required space and system reliability -
- but was "modern all-digital" at the time).

Membership renewed on the Burroughs D825.  AKA BUIC.  First digital
computer with parallel processing.  Two sides of the system begin blaming
each other for errors - forever.  "Reboot" invented. Beginning of the
modern era, that!

Elevated to exalted status on AN/FSQ-7 (IBM Federal Systems "Whirlwind
II"). First large-scale real time computer.  Sort of.  Depends on how
"real" your time is. Was able to selectively shed workload to keep
application within its ability to perform. Not by GPF's, either. 
Gracefully.

Marketeers, managements, OS and hardware designers seem determined  to
repeat the errors of the past ** instead of the successes **.

- Every one of the above machines separated its diagnostics and control
I/O from its application display.  Not only were there multiple CRT's,
there were separate hardware systems for the diagnostics and maintenance.

We could do that SO easily today.  But we do not.

BTW - the Roses are the ones with the nice texture, right?

Bill

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From: rappleby@cadvision.com                            30-Sep-99 22:26:27
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: XFree86, GIMP and GhostScript????

From: rappleby@cadvision.com (Ray Appleby)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:25:01, Christian Hennecke 
<christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:

> > I installed the X11 version (from Hobbes) of GhostScript branching
> > from the root directory of XFree86 (retaining the paths in the ZIP)
> > but when I try to open an EPS file, I get the message "Can't find
> > gs_init.ps".
> > 
> > I can't find any references to setup (expected directories, etc) and
> > several searches of DEJA didn't bring up anything I could hang my hat
> > on.
> > 
> > What is the proper setup for GhostScript under XFree86?
> > 
> > Is it possible to use a later version of GhostScript (without
> > compiling the code)?
> 
> Yeah. There is 5.50. In this version you can't use anti-aliasing in X
> however. Have a look at
> http://www.ime.rwth-aachen.de/~michael/os2/ghostscript/index.html
> 
> Christian Hennecke
> 

I'm aware of the later versions for OS/2 but there is only one 
designated for X11 on Hobbes.  I don't have the tools or the knowledge
to compile the source from later versions under XFree86/X11.  

Are you saying that I can run the OS/2 native code under XFree86?

Will installing the OS/2 version 5.50 solve the "Can't find the 
gs_init.ps" file problem?

Best Regards,
Ray Appleby                     rappleby@cadvision.com
[Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.

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From: hjmurray@home.com                                 01-Oct-99 04:40:04
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: Reinstalling Win95 with OS2

From: "Hal Murray" <hjmurray@home.com>

  
 > :>> If I proceed with a normal Win 95 installation will it delete
Boot
 > :>> Manager?  How do I then reinstall Boot Manager?  Will it
automatically
 > :>> install in the primary C drive which presently contains Win95?
 Am I
 > :>> apt to loose my Win 311 primary partition?
 > :>> I guess the question is "how do I proceed to reinstall Win95
(ugh)
 > :>> without affecting any of the other partitions (including boot
manager)
 > :>> and especially OS2"?

I just finished reinstalling Win 98 and Warp 4.

I created 2 primary C: drives, one for each operating system. Left
some space on the front of the drive (8megs) for Boot Manager and
used the rest of the 10 gig drive for an extended partition. In the
extended partition is 2 gigs of raw spece for FreeBSD ( in the
future), a FAT16 partition, a big FAT32 partition and a good sized
HPFS partition.

Win98 C: is FAT32 and Warp C: is HPFS.

installed Boot manager and set it to show the 2 OSs on the selection
screen.

When one OS is booted the other C: partition is hidden. No way for
one OS to get in the way of the other.

I created the 1 small FAT 16 to share files and run some Java in
common with both OSs.

Hal Murray
Calgary,AB

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From: hjmurray@home.com                                 01-Oct-99 04:42:28
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: Partition Magic question

From: "Hal Murray" <hjmurray@home.com>

 > PartitionMagic 4 no longer *runs* under OS/2, but the executable
that runs
 > under DOS (they include a "free" DOS from which one can boot from
floppies
 > and
 > then run PM4) certainly handles OS/2 partitions. All that's
missing is the
 > "pretty" GUI version of PM.
 > 
 > Alan
 > 
 It screwed up the extended partition so Warp counldn't see into it
and when I got that repaired Warp wouldn't boot.

I went back to Partition Magic 3.05

Hal Murray
Calgary, AB

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From: sutherlandj@ideal.net.au@ideal.n...               01-Oct-99 04:49:00
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: XFree86, GIMP and GhostScript????

Message sender: sutherlandj@ideal.net.au@ideal.net.au

From: sutherlandj@ideal.net.au@ideal.net.au

I bought Ghostscript on CD-ROM from the author and avoided all the hassle.  I
may have also downloaded EMX runtime from somewhere.


In <dF1xEfk5flPE-pn2-bK6dehkN2dkk@localhost>, rappleby@cadvision.com (Ray
Appleby) writes:
>I installed the X11 version (from Hobbes) of GhostScript branching 
>from the root directory of XFree86 (retaining the paths in the ZIP) 
>but when I try to open an EPS file, I get the message "Can't find 
>gs_init.ps".  
>
>I can't find any references to setup (expected directories, etc) and 
>several searches of DEJA didn't bring up anything I could hang my hat 
>on.
>
>What is the proper setup for GhostScript under XFree86? 
>
>Is it possible to use a later version of GhostScript (without 
>compiling the code)?
>
>Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>
>Best Regards,
>Ray Appleby                     rappleby@cadvision.com
>[Team OS/2]                 Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed.

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From: rgehrig@primenet.com                              30-Sep-99 22:22:23
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com>

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:10:22 -0400, John W. Hardy wrote:

<snip>
ot exist. I made it and stored is as "HOSTS.CMD". Is this correct?
>Is the number of spaces between "127.0.0.1" and "localhost" important?
>And, to split hairs, should there be a CR/LF at the end of that line?
>(Thigs seem to finally be working as originally typed, with one space,
>no CR/LF)
<snip>

Rename the Hosts.cmd file to hosts.




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From: news@fenrir.demon.co.uk                           30-Sep-99 07:43:15
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: DCITU - A Posting By The Author

From: "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.demon.co.uk>

On 29 Sep 1999 14:17:23 GMT, Esther Schindler wrote:

>
>I _am_ glad that you're updating the software, and I hate to think 
>that I added to the frustration of dealing with an ex-distributor.
>

Just let me add that Stephane is producing excellent support and new
features despite other commitments.

I'm delighted with DCITU, it will allow me to keep using OS/2 for some
time. Are you listening IBM?


-- 
Brian Morrison                                       news@fenrir.demon.co.uk
               to reply, change address from 'news' to 'bdm'
 ...Grim faced, cold as fishwife's fingers, he snatched from the wall
 the sickle-sharp boar tusks he used for defacing Readers' Digest....


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From: news@fenrir.demon.co.uk                           30-Sep-99 08:00:26
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: I seem to recall....

From: "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.demon.co.uk>

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:32:49 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

>Dmitri Khrebtukov <khr128@usa.net> said:
>
>>Copy and Use on Home/Portable Computer: No.
>
>>Is it just me, or is it like IBM is not going to sell this subscription to a
>>non-incorporated single guy like me at all?
>
>I can't answer the question per se, but I think the statement means you
aren't
>supposed to take home a copy of a corporate license and use it there.
>

That's right, I don't think that IBM ever had a licence like the
Micros~1 one where it is permitted to have a copy of the software you
use at work on your home PC.

We really are getting paranoid now....


-- 
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               to reply, change address from 'news' to 'bdm'
 ...Grim faced, cold as fishwife's fingers, he snatched from the wall
 the sickle-sharp boar tusks he used for defacing Readers' Digest....


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From: jwhardy@ibm.net                                   01-Oct-99 00:43:02
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: "John W. Hardy" <jwhardy@ibm.net>

Robert;

> Rename the Hosts.cmd file to hosts.

There are now two files in the MPTN\ETC subdirectory:

 HOSTS.CMD
 HOSTS


Apparently one of the changes I made (I'm guessing to the TCP/IP
configuration) finally caused the proper file to be created.

The "HOSTS" file has "127.0.0.1     localhost    localhost" in it.

Thank you.

John

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From: bostjan.vilfan@fri.uni-lj.si                      01-Oct-99 08:02:06
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Problem with Gradd driver

From: Bostjan Vilfan <bostjan.vilfan@fri.uni-lj.si>

Hi,

I have a PCI 3D Rage Pro ATI card and had been using IBM's Gradd 0.77
drivers. They seemed to work OK, but after switching to Gradd 0.80, I
noticed that the display became "grainy" (thin horizontal dark lines).
Unfortunately, I cannot improve the situation even if I switch back to
Gradd 0.77. Can anyone give me an idea?

Best regards,

Bostjan

--
*******************************************************************************


Bostjan Vilfan                            Voice  : +386-61-176-8391
University of Ljubljana, FRI              Fax    : +386-61-126-4647
Trzaska 25                                E-mail :
bostjan.vilfan@fri.uni-lj.si
1111  Ljubljana, Slovenia
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From: norrisg@linkline.com                              30-Sep-99 23:07:12
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: Netscape Support [was: Re: Two e-mail addresses?

From: "Graham C. Norris" <norrisg@linkline.com>

Dale Erwin wrote:
> I have been going thru my config.sys backups from the time the product
> was first installed.  It seems that when I installed Visual Age COBOL
> the install placed its directories at the beginning of the PATH and
> LIBPATH concatenations and also put a "." at the very beginning.  I
> notice a remark in some of them that this "." can't be in front of
> Netscape\Java11.
> 
> Is there any requirement that the directory be named NETSCAPE?

Nope, I have 2.02 on one drive in x:\NETSCAPE, 4.04 on another drive in
x:\nscomm4.04 and 4.61 on the same drive as 4.04 in x:\comm461 (hey,
there's nothing like being consistent, and this is nothing like it!).
They all share one application in OS2.INI, but that really does mean
*share* as they're written not to fall over each other.

I'd get that LIBPATH sorted out, but beyond that, I'm out of ideas.

Graham.

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From: fmiller1@fmiller1@home.com                        01-Oct-99 04:17:27
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: fmiller1@fmiller1@home.com

A very informative post.  Very well done.

Thank you

In <37F38BD2.809D2527@WarpCity.com>, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> writes:
>Using the RSU methid, the installation of IBM's latest
>FixPack release (FP12) was a piece of cake this morning.
>It is a little different than previous installations.  With
>this procedure I received a message that my system needed
>further updating and I was instruced to bring up the
>Window List (Control-Escape) and select (or run actually)
>a new update program.
>
>This took me into a full blank screen that went into a
>procedure much the same way Warp is originally
>installed.
>
>When it was over I was asked if I wanted to delete the
>unneeded files (said yes) and to then reboot.
>
>I'm back online and raring to go!  Here's my syslevel
>information:
>
>J:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK
>                           OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level
>Version 1.00     Component ID 566933010
>Type Fixpak
>Current CSD level: XR0M012
>Prior   CSD level: XR0M012
>
>As you can see, I'm not at FP12 level.  I DID NOT install the
>Device Driver FixPak1 (Yet) but may do so later today.
>
>I just want to assure all you OS/2 folks that the RSU method
>does work (now, it was not working late last night) and it
>appears IBM has now got this software update procedure
>working well.
>
>If YOU want to upgrade to FP12 go here:
>
>http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/softupd.html
>
>If they wanted to offer an upgrade to Warp 5 this way it
>would be very easy to do.
>
>Tim Martin
>The OS/2 Guy
>Warp City
>http://warpcity.com
>"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City.
>

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 01-Oct-99 06:31:16
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <37F4306B.4315DA13@adan.kingston.net>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<kahnt@adan.kingston.net> writes:
>Frank McKenney wrote:
>> 
>
>[***SNIP!!!***]
>
>> Gawd... just had a truly horrible thought. Is anyone out there using a
>> 2400 Baud modem?   <grin... I _hope_!>
>> 
>> Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
>> Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
>> E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com
>
>Eeek!!! Reminds me of the days of using a teletype terminal on a 110
>baud modem back in university!
>
>Can you imagine even browsing the web that way?



maybe ! see quoted below :

>Jim Stewart <jstewart@jkmicro.com> wrote in article
><E0E633687EC36A27.9D148DFD700A5E96.3BC31744CF026B73@lp.airnews.net>...


 >stuff snipped 

> What, you mean I can now get web browsers for the PDP-8 or one of my
> PDP-11's?  Wouldn't that be fun. :^)
 
> Don't you just love off-topic spam :^(
 
> First person to write a TCP/IP stack in PAL3 in less than 4k wins.
 
> Jim
 

Actually, that may not be so far from reality - check out:
http://www-ccs.cs.umass.edu/~shri/iPic.html

This guy has written a base level TCP/IP stack and web browser that fits
into about 500 words of memory on a Microchip PIC. The interface
is through a TTL level serial port using SLIP. The HTML files are
stored in a serial EEPROM attached to the PIC.

Lynx on a PDP-8, anyone?? ;-)

  Ron



>-- 
>
>============================================================
>To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers"
>portion of the Reply to: value.
>
>Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
>Voix:        (613) 531-8767   Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935
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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               30-Sep-99 23:27:24
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: CD file compare utiltiy

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:01:03 GMT, Carsten Mueller wrote:

>Hi Kim,
>
>I don't know the program you mentioned, but maybe you can use my tool 
> Directory Differ . It compares directories using the GNU-Diff 
>software. See details about this freeware  Directory Differ  on my web 
>site www.warphouse.de
>
>Carsten

Thanks for the offer but a directory compare is not sufficient.   The utility
I mentioned actually do a binary file to file comparison - and it was very
fast.   Too bad I lost it.


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          01-Oct-99 06:22:13
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:54:19, "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net> a 
crit dans un message:

> Frank McKenney wrote:
> > 
> 
> [***SNIP!!!***]
> 
> > Gawd... just had a truly horrible thought. Is anyone out there using a
> > 2400 Baud modem?   <grin... I _hope_!>

Actually, I have one plugged into an extra COM port to act as an outward 
dialer for the IBMWORKS PIM. Speed doesn't enter into that operation.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net                 30-Sep-99 23:19:02
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: 4.61 D/L came through as a DOS exe (!?)

From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-xt9cIsgVqgHv@localhost>, on 09/28/99 
   at 07:32 PM, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>I expect that it is/was Netscape that did that, not IBM. Any software 
>can be patched, quite easily, if you know how.

I've been paid to make things hard to patch.  It can be done, if the
interest is there.

Steven

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 01-Oct-99 07:17:13
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 06:44:10
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-xGdrCoFddPL9@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
>On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:54:19, "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net> a 
>crit dans un message:
>
>> Frank McKenney wrote:
>> > 
>> 
>> [***SNIP!!!***]
>> 
>> > Gawd... just had a truly horrible thought. Is anyone out there using a
>> > 2400 Baud modem?   <grin... I _hope_!>
>
>Actually, I have one plugged into an extra COM port to act as an outward 
>dialer for the IBMWORKS PIM. Speed doesn't enter into that operation.

that's a helluva good idea. thank you

>
>Good luck,
>
>Buddy
>
>Buddy Donnelly
>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
>


--
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From: cm@warphouse.de                                   01-Oct-99 07:56:05
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 10:28:09
Subj: Re: CD file compare utiltiy

From: Carsten Mueller <cm@warphouse.de>

Hi Kim,

> Thanks for the offer but a directory compare is not sufficient.   The 
utility
> I mentioned actually do a binary file to file comparison - and it was 
very
> fast.   Too bad I lost it.

Maybe you didn't understand me correctly. Directory Differ (using 
GNU-Diff) *does* a binary file to file comparison. It compares *each* 
file in each directory. Including the files of sub directories. So I 
think this solution would help you.

Carsten




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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          01-Oct-99 08:16:13
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 10:28:09
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:17:27, hamei@pacbell.net a crit dans un message:

> In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-xGdrCoFddPL9@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
> >On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:54:19, "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net> a 
> >crit dans un message:
> >> 
> >> > Gawd... just had a truly horrible thought. Is anyone out there using a
> >> > 2400 Baud modem?   <grin... I _hope_!>
> >
> >Actually, I have one plugged into an extra COM port to act as an outward 
> >dialer for the IBMWORKS PIM. Speed doesn't enter into that operation.
> 
> that's a helluva good idea. thank you

??. Another touch of that famed Villain Idiot Irony? (Not all of us are 
peddlin' forward-thrusting technology. Plus I've got a box of long-paid-for
hardware that keeps staring at me and sees through to my hippie-era soul, 
the one that shared the spirit that beat junk car roofs into semi-geodesic 
domes at desert commune homesteads.)



Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               01-Oct-99 09:55:10
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 10:28:09
Subj: Re: PMFax WinClient's log with ugly fonts

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> Once you open the Log-Window (press F2) you'll on one
> Windows machine the font is readable on the other machine
> its unreadable (looks like some non-proportional font with some-
> what 4 or 5 pouint in size). Any idea?

Hardly sounds like an OS/2 problem <g> so why posting it
also to os2.bugs and os2.apps? But let me give it a try. Is
Win not automatically substituting fonts if it does not find the
requested font on the machine it runs on? Perhaps the font 
in use at the good-looking machine (yuk, can hardly believe
seeing myself writing that its Windows after all <VBG>) is not
on the other machine? So Windows do's a bad job substituting?

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      01-Oct-99 01:44:26
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 10:28:10
Subj: Re: Partition Magic question

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <37F3CD4D.8A35BBFA@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>, Christian Hennecke
<christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> writes:

>PM4 does not run under OS/2. So if you run it under DOS it will suffer
>from DOS limitations (1024 cylindres). However, I had no problems
>running it from Win9x. And it does support ext2fs.

The DOS version of Partition Magic uses the DOS4GW protected mode
extensions and thus can see beyond what the BIOS can.  

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: pblew@uk.mdis.com                                 01-Oct-99 12:38:25
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 10:28:10
Subj: Re: Problem with Gradd driver

From: Paul Blew <pblew@uk.mdis.com>

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Bostjan Vilfan wrote:

> I have a PCI 3D Rage Pro ATI card and had been using IBM's Gradd 0.77
> drivers. They seemed to work OK, but after switching to Gradd 0.80, I
> noticed that the display became "grainy" (thin horizontal dark lines).
> Unfortunately, I cannot improve the situation even if I switch back to
> Gradd 0.77. Can anyone give me an idea?

I've got exactly the same problem - it appears that the horizontal frequency
is set
much lower on Gradd .80.  Anyone got any ideas why?


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From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com                     01-Oct-99 13:06:03
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 12:19:04
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney)

In <37F4306B.4315DA13@adan.kingston.net>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<kahnt@adan.kingston.net> writes:
>Frank McKenney wrote:
>> 
>
>[***SNIP!!!***]
>
>> Gawd... just had a truly horrible thought. Is anyone out there using a
>> 2400 Baud modem?   <grin... I _hope_!>
--snip--
>Eeek!!! Reminds me of the days of using a teletype terminal on a 110
>baud modem back in university!
>
>Can you imagine even browsing the web that way?

Well, now that you mention it...

Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty boxes
attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and spit
out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).

The professor's technique had a one-character-sized pixel (not square,
obviously (;-)) and used various letters/symbols with some overprinting
to achieve appropriate greyscale levels.  In order to provide a
sufficient number of pixels the image was printed in "strips" and then
joined.  Anyone remember the 6' by 8' StarTrek images?

Anyway, we could use a similar approach to display 'web graphics on your
teletype and 110-baud modem.  A bit slow, though...  and hard-copy only.
Do I hear any volunteers for the Beta testing? (;-)


Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         01-Oct-99 12:09:22
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 12:19:04
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

In article <37f3f01a$1$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$mr2ice@news-
s01.ny.us.ibm.net>,
  yyyc186.illegaltospam@ibm.net wrote:
> In <7stnmu$h7b$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 09/29/99
>    at 07:02 PM, Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com> said:
>
> The short answer is that BA/2 is a poorly written unreliable puddle of
> excriment.

Thank you for the detailed technical explanation of why it won't work.

> The only correct method of doing a backup is to boot from alternate
media
> (like utility floppies) and backup while no files are open on any of
the
> drives you wish to backup.  In the trades this is known as an image
backup
> because it is a TRUE image of the drive as it is.

I shall do this.  Thank you for this bit of useful information.

> There is nothing you can really do to recover from this.  Your backup
> solution simply doesn't work.

Ah, I see.  So all the people who say they have recovered successfully
with BA/2 are delusional?  They haven't actually recovered?  Their hard
drives are actually still non-operational and they're too lost in their
delusion to realize that they've not been doing any work for months?
Ok, I got it. Thanks.

Your objections have been noted and given the consideration they
deserve, taking into account the language and detail level provided.

Thank you for taking time to answer my question and I do appreciate the
one piece of information you gave that wasn't drenched in puerile
whinging.

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     01-Oct-99 06:32:18
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 12:19:04
Subj: Re: NS461: Drag 'n Drop/To and Fro

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

"Thomas A. Heller" wrote:

> NS _refuses_ to open .HTM/HTML files when I drag a
> file's object to the NS window.  No error message,
> just no response.  Reload doesn't come to the
> rescue, either.  Any help/advice appreciated.

Are you dragging it to the Netscape "N" logo?  You
can't just drag the URL to the browser page area.

> Am also baffled with the specific
> requirement/condition for dragging  web pages to the
> Desktop...can drag 'n drop _only_ work when dragging
> the small icon left of the Location text field?
> (Didn't 2.02 support Cntrl-Right Mouse Button drag
> to Desktop?)  This is rather kludgy...I'd much
> rather be able to drag into a Folder.

You can drag to any folder or the desktop.  You
can drag any image or link on a page.  You can't
Ctrl-drag the web page itself in the current version,
but that will be fixed whenever a refresh is done.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com                           01-Oct-99 08:11:16
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 12:19:04
Subj: Re: IBM trying hard to kill us home users

From: Robert Dohrenburg <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com>

nospam wrote:
> 
> dinkmeister <dink@dont.spam.me> wrote in message
> news:qvaxqbagfcnzzr.fiu89h0.pminews@ftl.msen.com...
> > If the news about Software Choice going pay-only
> > on Jan, 2000 pisses you off, e-mail your comments
> > to IBM / Software Choice admin at:
> > aburke@us.ibm.com
> >
> > Why should we have to pay for browser and Java
> > updates when Windows/Linux users get them free?
> 
> I think IBM needs money desperately for their employees' pension fund.
> 
> P/

Wrong, "part-time" and contract employees don't get benefits. The money
is destined for shareholders.

Robert,

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From: zarembka@acsu.buffalo.edu                         01-Oct-99 13:06:02
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 12:19:04
Subj: Staroffice 5.1

From: Paul Zarembka <zarembka@acsu.buffalo.edu>

Could someone remind me how to get the Staroffice 5.1 upgrade file 
(not the full file).  Thanks, Paul

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Oct-99 10:22:27
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) said:

>Anyway, we could use a similar approach to display 'web graphics on your
>teletype and 110-baud modem.  A bit slow, though...  and hard-copy only. Do I
>hear any volunteers for the Beta testing? (;-)

Well, I have an old computer I don't plan to use for the next several years.
<g>

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: whinkle@NOSPAMcomtecinc.com                       01-Oct-99 14:16:02
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Re: I seem to recall....

From: whinkle@NOSPAMcomtecinc.com

In <oqzsraeveqrzbapbhx.fivg1g3.pminews@fenrir.demon.co.uk>, on 09/30/99 
   at 08:00 AM, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.demon.co.uk> said:

>That's right, I don't think that IBM ever had a licence like the Micros~1
>one where it is permitted to have a copy of the software you use at work
>on your home PC.

FWIW, IBM AntiVirus does (did?) have that provision in its license.  Don't
know if Symantec's NAV-OS/2 does, though -- I guess I'd better check
before December!

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Bill Hinkle  <whinkle@NOSPAMiname.com>
-----------------------------------------------------------


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From: rjlapham@infinet.com                              01-Oct-99 00:33:11
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 on Warp3/FP32

From: rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-ndppd6O1Rd86@localhost>, on 09/29/99 
   at 08:40 PM, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

> On Sun, 29 Sep 1999 00:29:32, rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham) 
> wrote:

> ...snip...
> > I'm not running 4OS2, I don't have any directory names with spaces, and I
> > have no idea what directory the Install app is trying to create.  Where do
> > I go from here?
> > 

> I have no idea what your problem is, but have you tried installing 
> into a different directory? Perhaps something old has write protected 
> something that the new install is trying to recreate.

I'm not trying to install into *any* particular directory.  I run Install
and it says it can't create a directory.  It doesn't say what (or where)
directory it is trying to create.

    -Jerry
-- 
============================================================
Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: rjlapham@infinet.com
Written Friday, October 01, 1999 - 12:33 AM (EDT)
============================================================
MR/2 Ice tag:  WARNING:  Check your toilet paper stockpile.  Make sure it's
Y2K compliant. Word has it, if it isn't, come Jan 1, 2000, it will roll back
to 1900, then turn into a Sears Catalog.

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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           01-Oct-99 14:02:08
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Re: Problem with Gradd driver

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

Bostjan Vilfan (bostjan.vilfan@fri.uni-lj.si) wrote:

: I have a PCI 3D Rage Pro ATI card and had been using IBM's Gradd 0.77
: drivers. They seemed to work OK, but after switching to Gradd 0.80, I
: noticed that the display became "grainy" (thin horizontal dark lines).
: Unfortunately, I cannot improve the situation even if I switch back to
: Gradd 0.77. Can anyone give me an idea?

One of the things I like about GRADD over the TAI drivers is that they give
much more control over frequencies ... by dropping vertical frequency to
60Hz I was able to get 1280*1040 for the first time.

So, to cut things short, try playing around with the scan frequencies.

Ian

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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           01-Oct-99 14:06:15
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Printing from Netscape

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

Does anyone have netscape 4.61 (or 4.04) printing to a HP Laserjet 1100?
All I get are the underlines from followed links - nothing else appears.

Ian

PS WebExplorer 1.2 prints OK-ish, but the right hand side of each sheet is
completely obliterated by a solid block of black, with a rather fetching
geometrical edge to it.

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Oct-99 10:27:14
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Re: IBM trying hard to kill us home users

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Robert Dohrenburg <rdohrenburg@hotmail.com> said:
>> I think IBM needs money desperately for their employees' pension fund.
>> 
>> P/

>Wrong, "part-time" and contract employees don't get benefits. The money is
>destined for shareholders.

I see there are still some astute thinkers out there.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Oct-99 10:29:08
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Java 1.1.8 update - Where

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

A week or so I got Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice Catalog and installed it
last
night.  Do I still have to get the update?  If so, where?

BTW, what is Swing? A developer thing?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: smariga@gte.net                                   01-Oct-99 19:50:24
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: RSU of FP12 gives Error 11

From: Alex Smariga <smariga@gte.net>

I decided to update my WsEB system with FP12.  I downloaded the RSUINITn
files, updated them where it said, and started the RSU update.

Almost immediately, I get an error 11 as soon as I've selected the drive
and it starts to download.

I looked in the docs, and there is no reference of error 11.  Can 
someone point me in a direction that can answer what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks.

Alex Smariga


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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi                             01-Oct-99 15:12:25
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 update - Where

From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:29:17, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> A week or so I got Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice Catalog and installed it
last
> night.  Do I still have to get the update?  If so, where?

Check your version with 'java -fullversion'. If it's build 
o118-19990910, you have the latest fix. If not, you can get it from:

ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/118/

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From: rrkurtz@us.ibm.com                                01-Oct-99 10:09:04
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: RSU of FP12 gives Error 11

From: Dick Kurtz <rrkurtz@us.ibm.com>

Ref:     Append at 19:50:48 on 99/10/01 -0800 (by smariga@gte.net)

I suspect this has something to do with JFS though I'm not sure. In any case,
FP12 does not apply to WSeB so it would be a waste of time to download it.
If I ever get access to a WSeB system running JFS I'll see if I can debug the
RSUINST problem. Tried it on a WSeB system running HOFS386 and it worked okay.

> I decided to update my WsEB system with FP12.  I downloaded the RSUINITn
> files, updated them where it said, and started the RSU update.
>
> Almost immediately, I get an error 11 as soon as I've selected the drive
> and it starts to download.
>
> I looked in the docs, and there is no reference of error 11.  Can
> someone point me in a direction that can answer what I'm doing wrong?

Dick Kurtz
eBusiness Development, Austin Tx.

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From: aludwig@ErzETT.uni-potsdam.de                     01-Oct-99 15:05:10
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Re: NS461: Drag 'n Drop/To and Fro

From: "Andreas Ludwig" <aludwig@ErzETT.uni-potsdam.de>

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 06:32:36 GMT, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

>
>You can drag to any folder or the desktop.  You
>can drag any image or link on a page.  You can't
>Ctrl-drag the web page itself in the current version,
>but that will be fixed whenever a refresh is done.
>

Great News! D'n'D at the same level as Netscape 2.02? Than I could finally
USE Communicator in day to day browsing...

Hey, keep up the good work (and be quick, so that we can get the refresh as
lomg as Software Choice is free... ;-)

Regards!

Andreas



--

Andreas Ludwig
from the beautiful town of POTSDAM (Germany)
using my good old PC and OS/2 WARP 4 !

(remove the BIG letters to reply)


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From: eusebio@beamlab.ps.uci.edu                        01-Oct-99 08:40:21
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: CDBurners and Extended Attributes

From: Eusebio Garate <eusebio@beamlab.ps.uci.edu>

Hello,
I recently purchased a SCSI CD-RW (Philips CDD3600) and I am trying to
get it to work with OS/2 Warp 4 (Fixpak 11). I have installed CDrecord/2
and some GUI interfaces (CDwrite, CDTools). I haven't managed to get
everything working yet. Anyway, I am wondering if, when I burn a data
CD, the EA's for the files will be included. Also, is there any FAQ that
will help me out and/or other programs that people recommend?

I also use Linux and managed to get everything going using X-CDRoast as
the GUI frontend to cdrecord. I can read the HPFS partitions of Warp and
write to the CD  under Linux but the EA's don't seem to be there when I
use the CD under OS/2. Has anyone else tried this and is there something
I can do to correct this?

Thanks,
Eusebio

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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         01-Oct-99 16:02:06
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 14:23:08
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

In article <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-7n0XNPVDQuFE@localhost>,
  doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:

[useful, detailed information snipped]

> 2) Make a set of Boot diskettes, since even just running in command
> line mode will lock some files on restore. (I use, and prefer, BOOT
> OS/2 - look for BTOS290.ZIP, in the usual places.

I went to hobbes.nmsu.edu and found a file named bootos2.zip but
nothing named btos290.zip.  I am not familiar with what the "usual
places" would be (I've only been working on OS/2 for four weeks now,
I'd never even seen a photo of it before then).  Could you be a little
more specific please?

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com               01-Oct-99 16:28:12
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:16
Subj: Re: Produce PDF?

From: "Jan Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com>

>I really do not know. I upgraded my PageMaker just to get it:
>it was cheaper than to get Acrobat. Anyway, it is annoying to
>have to rebbot to Win95, but I only work there fore the 30 seconds
>it takes to creat a 200 pages pdf-file. One reasonable idea is to
>send a postscriptfile to someone who has destiller, and he can
>easily do it. I would be happy to help out.

Thanks! I'll store your e-mail address in a safe place. I'll get back to you
be e-mail when the time comes, if it's ok.

Vnta lite nu, va... Du har ju en .se. Och fint namn har du ocks. :-)


 /j



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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     01-Oct-99 17:43:07
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: CDBurners and Extended Attributes

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:40:42 -0700, Eusebio Garate wrote:

->I recently purchased a SCSI CD-RW (Philips CDD3600) and I am trying to
->get it to work with OS/2 Warp 4 (Fixpak 11). I have installed CDrecord/2
->and some GUI interfaces (CDwrite, CDTools). I haven't managed to get
->everything working yet. Anyway, I am wondering if, when I burn a data
->CD, the EA's for the files will be included. Also, is there any FAQ that
->will help me out and/or other programs that people recommend?

The CD filesystem does not include support for EA's so they are discarded
when you write files to a CD (probably not even written at all). The only
way to get EAs onto a CD that I know of is to zip the files first using an
EA aware copy of zip and then write the zip file to CD. You can also use
EAUTIL to write the EAs to a separate file and then write both that and
the original to CD and run EAUTIL to join them back together if/when you
restore the data.


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      01-Oct-99 14:51:06
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: I seem to recall....

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <oqzsraeveqrzbapbhx.fivg1g3.pminews@fenrir.demon.co.uk>, "Brian Morrison"
<news@fenrir.demon.co.uk> writes:

>On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:32:49 -0400, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:
>
>>Dmitri Khrebtukov <khr128@usa.net> said:
>>
>>>Copy and Use on Home/Portable Computer: No.
>>
>>>Is it just me, or is it like IBM is not going to sell this subscription to
a
>>>non-incorporated single guy like me at all?
>>
>>I can't answer the question per se, but I think the statement means you
aren't
>>supposed to take home a copy of a corporate license and use it there.
>>
>
>That's right, I don't think that IBM ever had a licence like the
>Micros~1 one where it is permitted to have a copy of the software you
>use at work on your home PC.
>
>We really are getting paranoid now....

Isn't that the reason for that "US Government Users rights 
restricted as per yadda, yadda, yadda" message we see when OS/2 
boots?  I seem to recall an incident where IBM felt got burned by 
the govenment because the govt. took a more liberal view of the 
license than IBM did.  Since then IBM has been careful to state 
that US Govt. rights are restricted...


-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: ariek3.14159265358979323846@ibm.net               01-Oct-99 16:22:00
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61: How to set it up for Hebrew webpages?

From: ariek3.14159265358979323846@ibm.net (Arie Kazachin)

In message <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-eiGNqR6FuOBl@POBLANO> - l_luciano@da.mob (Stan
Goodman) writes:
>
>Hi, Arie...
>

Hi, Stan!
Thanks - it helped.

>I did this a few days ago. It isn't difficult, but it's well hidden.
>
>In the Preferences noteboot, you probably have Hebrew listed in the list of
>languages (in addition to English, and whatever else you require). Now you 

I had initially only en_US and there was no Hebrew among the
listed languages. I used the "other" entry to add "Hebrew [he]"
(which on subsequent activations of Netscape was shown just as "he").

>have to choose fonts PER LANGUAGE on the fonts page -- I have the Unicode 
>font, Time New Roman MT30 for the variable-width font, Web Hebrew Monospace
>for the fixed-width.

Alhough I have the Hebrew working now, the "per language" is not clear to me:
do you mean that fonts selection operations are associated with the
last language selected on the "languages" page?

>
>On the Character-set page, choose all four of the Hebrew sets; this list is
>a repertoire, and you may well need all of them, given the chaotic state of
>Hebrew Web construction.
>

Hebrew sets had already been selected. Maybe that's because I'm running
WARP 3 Hebrew NLV.

>Now you need to deal with the non-standard reading directions that you 
>complained about a few days ago. Open the file 
>NETSCAPE\USERS\<username>\PREFS.JS, and insert the line:
>
>user_pref("browser.bidi.bidi_enabled", true)
>

This line too had already existed. I remember there were some BIDI
selectiond during installation, maybe it's from there.

>This will place a new display-direction option (BIDI) in the browser's View
>pull-down menu. .
>
>Now open a Hebrew URL. You will see Hebrew characters displayed, but you 
>stand a good chance that the characters won't make words, because the 
>character set is wrong. You can fix this by pulling down the View > 
>Character-set menu, and trying the various mappings. On the ones that I 
>have checked, ISO 8859-8 worked.
>
>A good year...
>

A good year to you too...


Now I have 3 working web browsers:

WebEx:		the most primitive (not even frames) but it's the fastest
		and is "well integrated" into the WPS (drag&drop WebExURL
		objects, etc.). Takes about 2MB of memory when started
		empty. I use it for sites I know as "not using frames".

NS 2.02:	Does frames but slower. Most Hebrew pages shown in a wrong
		order of letters. Drag&drop WebExURL object onto
		an OPEN NS 2.02 acts same as WebEx: it goes to this URL.
		In order for "drag&drop URL object onto Icon" to work
		I had to write a simple REXX script and to create a program
		object of this scrips with NS Icon. When URL object is
		dropped onto this prog. object, it calls NS with URL as
		argument, causing it to go to this URL.
		Takes about 3MB of memory when started empty.
		I use it for non-Hebrew sites with frames.

NS 4.61:	Does Hebrew too. Slowest of the three. Drag&drop URL object
		onto an OPEN NS 4.61 opens URL object as file instead of
		going to this URL. The same workaround with REXX script
		allows URL object to be dropped onto Icon of NS.
		Takes about 7MB when started empty.
		I'll use ot for Hebrew pages. I started this whole issue
		of Hebrew pages mainly because my father asked me to
		fix the Hebrew pages viewing on his machine. I rarely
		surf Hebrew sites. Now, when I know what should I do,
		I'll install NS 4.61 on his machine too (assuming
		computers behave in a deterministic way).   :-)

Thanks again,
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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           01-Oct-99 17:34:21
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61- too slow

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 03:30:51, gayleb 
<gayleburnettNOgaSPAM@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:

> Is there anything I can do to speed up Netscape
> 4.61? It seems slower than 4.04.
> 
> 
> * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network *
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> 

I think 4.61 loads much slower, runs much faster, and takes "forever" 
to shut down.

Netscape, uses a lot of system memory. It is possible that your 
Swapper file is growing, and shrinking, while you use Netscape, which 
would appear to make Netscape run very slow (especially on a slow 
machine). Try increasing the initil size of your Swapper file to 
something bigger than what it is. Look, in CONFIG.SYS, for the line:
===================================================
SWAPPATH=D:\OS2\SYSTEM 2048 2048
===================================================
(This is what the install puts in there), and change it to something 
like:
===================================================
SWAPPATH=D:\OS2\SYSTEM 2048 20480
===================================================
(which would be the minimum I would recommend for any system running 
warp4). If the size has already been adjusted, change it to something 
bigger, and see if it helps.

There is some consensus, that the shutdown is caused by the program 
cleaning up the cache. The best suggestion that I have for that, is to
get, and use Smart Cache (this has other advantages). Go to:
 http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html
to get the program, and more information (this thing seems to require 
HPFS to run properly. If you have a FAT only system, it won't help). 
If you cannot use Smart Cache, try reducing the amount of disk cache 
in the Netscape settings. If you can use Smart Cache, make the disk 
cache zero.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               01-Oct-99 13:21:06
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

"John W. Hardy" wrote:
> 
> Brad;
> 
> Basically, I am now up and running. THANK YOU! There is only one minor
> problem at this point: When I try to view the sample database, there is
> a "DB2 Message" that says:
> 
>      The node name "DB2" specified in the command is not valid.
> 
> (SQL1019N)

	Okay - here's the text for the error:

--------------
SQL1019N The node name "<name>" specified in the command is not valid. 

Explanation: The node name specified in the command is not valid. The
node name may be 1 to 8 characters
and all of the characters must be from the database manager base
character set. 

The command cannot be processed. 

User Response: Resubmit the command with the correct node name.
--------------

	I imagine it was because of your HOSTS configuration problem (while
I'll note below).
 
> > As for your HOSTS file, this should be in your %ETC% directory (type
> > "SET ETC" on a command prompt to see what directory this is set to -
> > usually it's \MPTN\ETC).  If you don't have one, make one with whatever
> > text editor you like, and add the following line:
> >
> >                         127.0.0.1             localhost
> 
> Did not exist. I made it and stored is as "HOSTS.CMD". Is this correct?
> Is the number of spaces between "127.0.0.1" and "localhost" important?
> And, to split hairs, should there be a CR/LF at the end of that line?
> (Thigs seem to finally be working as originally typed, with one space,
> no CR/LF)

	Actually, the file is just called "HOSTS", with no extension at all. 
As for the spacing and the CR/LF, they don't matter too much - my
posting contained the extra spaces because I cut and pasted the line
as-is from my HOSTS file.
 
> Did not exist. I added it to CONFIG.SYS, right after the line "SET
> HOSTNAME=localhost".

	It doesn't really matter where it goes, but that sounds like a god spot
to me :).
 
> Unfortunately, when I tried to access the "Information Center" I got the
> "DB2 Message":
> 
>    [IBM][JDBC Driver] CLI061E Error opening socket
>    SQLSTATE=08S01
> 
> There was also an icon with the circle/slash symbol (as if to say "NO")
> over a piece of paper, with the caption below it "CLI0616E".

	Okay - here's the text for that error message:

--------------
CLI0616E Error opening socket. 

Explanation: Cannot open the socket to server, server may be down. 

User Response: Ensure JDBC server is up, and rerun your program. 
--------------

	Chances are, this occured because of the .CMD extensoin on the HOSTS
file you created (yet more on this below :).
 
> URGENT UPDATE: I just tried it again, and it worked. I added the IP
> address "127.0.0.1" and "localhost" to the "Configure Name Resolution"
> page of the TCP/IP Configuration, per the instructions via Information
> Center. It was after this, and another reboot that everything (except
> minor problem above) is basically working.

	This page will make a HOSTS file for you if one doesn't already exist -
so congratulations!  You fixed the problem yourself! :).  I would
suggest going bakc into your %ETC% directory and verifying tha a file
named HOSTS (no extension does exist - if it does, you can delete the
HOSTS.CMD file you created in there.
 
> 2nd minor problem: The TCP/IP notebook still comes up with no interface
> selected each time I open it. I have not tried any TCP/IP updates yet.

	Odd.  I unfortunately have no explaination for this.  I'd assume that
smething somewhere is either fouled up or some file is missing from
somewhere.
 
> Thanks for the great help. BTW, the CD package for DB2 V6.1 is great! So
> much stuff. I look forward to getting it up and running. Thank you.

	I'm glad you like it - I'll pass your words of praise on to the rest of
the team :).

Brad BARCLAY
DB2 for OS/2 Install Developer.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: helle05@ibm.net                                   01-Oct-99 09:33:09
  To: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: NS461: Drag 'n Drop/To and Fro

To: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>
From: "Thomas A. Heller" <helle05@ibm.net>


"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:
> 
> "Thomas A. Heller" wrote:
> 
> > NS _refuses_ to open .HTM/HTML files when I drag a
> > file's object to the NS window.  No error message,
> > just no response.  Reload doesn't come to the
> > rescue, either.  Any help/advice appreciated.
> 
> Are you dragging it to the Netscape "N" logo?  You
> can't just drag the URL to the browser page area.


Jeffrey: Thanks for the clarification on dragging
objects _to_ NS's "N' logo.  (I have to admit,
however, that in 4.04, I became accustomed to
dragging .HTML objects --sometimes even image (.GIF,
.JPEG) objects-- to the browser page to open/view
them.  Apparently, dragging to the page is no longer
supported in 4.61?)  On a crowded 15" monitor, the
page is a much larger (and therfore preferable)
target area than the "N" logo.


> 
> > Am also baffled with the specific
> > requirement/condition for dragging  web pages to the
> > Desktop...can drag 'n drop _only_ work when dragging
> > the small icon left of the Location text field?
> > (Didn't 2.02 support Cntrl-Right Mouse Button drag
> > to Desktop?)  This is rather kludgy...I'd much
> > rather be able to drag into a Folder.
> 
> You can drag to any folder or the desktop.  You
> can drag any image or link on a page.  You can't
> Ctrl-drag the web page itself in the current version,
> but that will be fixed whenever a refresh is done.

Shouldn't that read "You can drag any link or image
to the desktop -- and _then_ from the desktop to any
folder"?  And similarly, you can only drag to the
desktop --but not to a folder-- the little icon to
the left of the location/netsite text field box. 
That's the behavior I encounter.  

I appreciate the future commitment re: Ctrl-drag for
the page (which would simply add another --or
restore a previous-- way of capturing web pages),
but I personally would attach greater utility to
efforts to enable dragging directly into folders. 
And, in this regard, I also would highly support the
notion advanced in an earlier thread about dragging
into a "Connections" object which would allow
nesting of multiple objects into
directories/subdirectories, etc.  

Overall, I'm very grateful for your efforts on 4.61
-- my patience with the instability of 4.04 was
wearing quite thin!  I am _especially_ grateful for
the quick opening of the bookmarks.  Waiting for
them to open in 4.04 had become real torture.  THANK
YOU!

> 
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           01-Oct-99 20:42:19
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <7t2ltr$4d6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/01/99 
   at 04:02 PM, Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com> said:

>> 2) Make a set of Boot diskettes, since even just running in command
>> line mode will lock some files on restore. (I use, and prefer, BOOT
>> OS/2 - look for BTOS290.ZIP, in the usual places.

>I went to hobbes.nmsu.edu and found a file named bootos2.zip but
>nothing named btos290.zip.  I am not familiar with what the "usual
>places" would be (I've only been working on OS/2 for four weeks now,
>I'd never even seen a photo of it before then).  Could you be a little
>more specific please?

You have d'loaded the correct file, it's the latest version AFAIK. Just
unzip it in some directory and read the BOOTOS2.DOC file.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: jonphil@ibm.net                                   01-Oct-99 18:59:02
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: JStreetMailer - what'sup?

From: Jon <jonphil@ibm.net>

Thanks
Now why could'nt Innoval have just told me that, rather than just ignoring my
e-mail. Think they need to learn something about customer service.

Jonathan

Tim Martin wrote:

> Jon wrote:
>
> > I used to have JStreet Mailer but my PC crashed.
> > When I got round to logging back onto the site I found no reference to the
> > program at all, I tried to mail Innoval and heard nothing at all (if thats
> > idea of customer service!!!!).
>
> InnoVal announced (last month?) the free release of all of
> their OS/2 programs as well as a universal registration codes.
> Paul vanKeep of Sumatra Software has assembled a group
> of superior Java programmers who are now dubbed "The
> JStreet Band" and they have picked up development.  Paul
> (vanKeep)  is an amazing Java programmer and whips out
> new features, upgrades, bug fixes in hours.
>
> JSM is now THE BEST 100% Java Emailer available and
> it is completely free.  Incredibly fast and feature laden. There
> is  no other Java emailer that can equal it at the moment.
>
> AND - ALL JStreet upgrades are free.
>
> > Does anyone have a copy of the origonal release of the software, what's
> > more annoying is that fact I signed up to the Years upgrade program, and
> > what ever happend to that!!!????
>
> Obtain the original release from Hobbes, here:
>
> ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/java/apps/internet/mail/jstreet.zip
>
> The registration code should be found in the readme.
>
> Obtain the latest upgrade from The J Street Emailer Site
> here:  http://paul.vanKeep.com/jstreet/
>
> Join the J Street Mailing List for help, news and other
> information here:
> http://www.sumatra.nl:81/guest/RemoteAvailableLists
>
> > Please help
> > Jonathan
> > jonphil@ibm.net
> > or jonphil@attbusiness.net (now IBM have sold off the Internet business
> > too)!
>
> Tim Martin
> The OS/2 Guy
> Warp City
> http://warpcity.com
> "E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"

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From: rascho@nospam.iname.com                           01-Oct-99 19:50:12
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: Problem with Gradd driver

From: "Rade Popovic" <rascho@nospam.iname.com>

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:02:12 +0100, Bostjan Vilfan wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have a PCI 3D Rage Pro ATI card and had been using IBM's Gradd 0.77
>drivers. They seemed to work OK, but after switching to Gradd 0.80, I
>noticed that the display became "grainy" (thin horizontal dark lines).
>Unfortunately, I cannot improve the situation even if I switch back to
>Gradd 0.77. Can anyone give me an idea?
>
>Best regards,
>
>Bostjan

Check if your monitor type and refresh rate are correct.

Rascho
e-mail:rascho@iname.com
ICQ# 49354974

------------------------
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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           01-Oct-99 13:01:09
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: Re: NS461: Drag 'n Drop/To and Fro

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

"Thomas A. Heller" wrote:

> Jeffrey: Thanks for the clarification on dragging
> objects _to_ NS's "N' logo.  (I have to admit,
> however, that in 4.04, I became accustomed to
> dragging .HTML objects --sometimes even image (.GIF,
> .JPEG) objects-- to the browser page to open/view
> them.  Apparently, dragging to the page is no longer
> supported in 4.61?)  On a crowded 15" monitor, the
> page is a much larger (and therfore preferable)
> target area than the "N" logo.

You should be able to drag to the browser page as
well.

> Shouldn't that read "You can drag any link or image
> to the desktop -- and _then_ from the desktop to any
> folder"?

No, it shouldn't.  You can drag any link or image
to any folder.

>  And similarly, you can only drag to the
> desktop --but not to a folder-- the little icon to
> the left of the location/netsite text field box.
> That's the behavior I encounter.

Then it's broken on your machine, for some
reason.  Make sure NS46DRAG.DLL exists in
your Netscape\Program directory, and that it
has a 9/16 date.

> I appreciate the future commitment re: Ctrl-drag for
> the page (which would simply add another --or
> restore a previous-- way of capturing web pages),
> but I personally would attach greater utility to
> efforts to enable dragging directly into folders.

Already done.  Hopefully, you'll be able to
sort out why it isn't working on your machine.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           01-Oct-99 18:37:28
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:20
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:02:12, Siobhan Perricone 
<morgannalefey@my-deja.com> wrote:

> I went to hobbes.nmsu.edu and found a file named bootos2.zip but
> nothing named btos290.zip.  I am not familiar with what the "usual
> places" would be (I've only been working on OS/2 for four weeks now,
> I'd never even seen a photo of it before then).  Could you be a little
> more specific please?
>  

OK (welcome to the world of OS/2, by the way).

The BOOT OS2 package seems to come in two different file names. One is
BOOTOS2.ZIP, the other in BTOS2xxx.ZIP, where xxx is the version 
number (actually, 290 seems to have the 291 version in it). You will 
need to unzip the BOOTOS2.ZIP file, in order to find out which version
it contains.

Another very good package, is the ConfigMaint/2 package. Look for 
CFGMT100.ZIP, and the second of two file updates for it (CFGUPD2.ZIP 
-> you don't need the first update). It will help you tweak up your 
CONFIG.SYS, and explain some of the things that are in there (the DAT 
file is readable in a text editor, and has a LOT of good stuff in it).


A couple of web sites that are considered to be "the usual places" 
(there are more) are:
The OS/2 supersite: http://www.os2ss.com/
LEO: http://www.leo.org/archiv/software/os2/index_grouped.html
HOBBES: http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/
Judy's Warped World: http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/
OS/2 "Must-Have" Utilities: http://www.musthave.com/

Other interesting/useful pages:
Communicator for OS/2: http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html
GlassMan: 
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7567/software/english/ind
ex.html
Alphaworks: http://www.alphaWorks.ibm.com/Home/
Smart Cache: http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html
D's World: http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html
Henk Kelder: http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/index.html
SouthSoft: http://www.southsoft.com/
Indelible-Blue: http://www.indelible-blue.com/
RPF software: http://www.RPFSoftware.com/
Panacea software: http://www.panaceasoft.com/ (this one seems to be 
dead, but Pronews/2 is the BEST *IMO* news reader available, even in 
the beta form).
Keller group: http://www.kellergroup.com/
Emtec: http://www.emtec.com/ (ZOC, is the best comm program IMO).
Computer Data Strategies: http://www.cds-inc.com/ (excellent backup 
software, in spite of what one user keeps spouting in the news 
groups).
IBM Redbooks: 
http://www.software.ibm.com/os/warp/library/redindex.html
IBM Software Choice catalog: 
http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
Fix Packs: ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/
Drivers: http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm
Y2K considerations: 
http://www.software.ibm.com/os/warp/solutions/and/y2000/year2000.html

All of these addresses should be on one line, but may have wrapped in 
the system.

There are many more pages that have good stuff on them. I suggest 
starting with the OS/2 supersite. There is a link to some excellent 
beginner stuff (which includes information on Fix Packs), and a LOT of
good links to other things.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: FStolpmann@knuut.de                               01-Oct-99 19:41:04
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:20
Subj: NC 4.61 - Append any broken download?

From: Frank Stolpmann <FStolpmann@knuut.de>

Hi, 
 
I wonder if NC 4.61 is capable to append broken downloads. 
 
Any hints?

 
Bye. 
 
Frank Stolpmann 
FStolpmann@knuut.de 
http://home.knuut.de/FStolpmann 
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From: michael.schulz@btinternet.com                     01-Oct-99 18:50:29
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:20
Subj: Re: Staroffice 5.1

From: "Michael Schulz" <michael.schulz@btinternet.com>

On 1 Oct 1999 13:06:04 GMT, Paul Zarembka wrote:

>Could someone remind me how to get the Staroffice 5.1 upgrade file 
>(not the full file).  Thanks, Paul

There is none. You have to download the whole lot.
(:-)---------------------------------------------------------------(-:)
Michael Schulz                      Sidcup/Kent/England
E-Mail:  michael.schulz@btinternet.com
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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               01-Oct-99 13:27:24
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:20
Subj: Re: CDBurners and Extended Attributes

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Eusebio Garate wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I recently purchased a SCSI CD-RW (Philips CDD3600) and I am trying to
> get it to work with OS/2 Warp 4 (Fixpak 11). I have installed CDrecord/2
> and some GUI interfaces (CDwrite, CDTools). I haven't managed to get
> everything working yet. Anyway, I am wondering if, when I burn a data
> CD, the EA's for the files will be included. Also, is there any FAQ that
> will help me out and/or other programs that people recommend?
> 
> I also use Linux and managed to get everything going using X-CDRoast as
> the GUI frontend to cdrecord. I can read the HPFS partitions of Warp and
> write to the CD  under Linux but the EA's don't seem to be there when I
> use the CD under OS/2. Has anyone else tried this and is there something
> I can do to correct this?

Hi Eusebio:

	Unfortunately, there is no mechanism on a CD to store EA's in the CD
filesystem itself, so no - they don't get copied over.

	If you need to preserve EA's of files being stored on CD for archival
purposes, there are several mechanisms you can use:

	1) Use a native OS/2 backup program to write the files to the CD.  Such
program usually have a special flat file format which will store the
EA's for you,

	2) Use InfoZIP or PKZip to archive and write the files to the CD - they
will also store the EA's within the archive for you

	3) Use EAUTIL (which comes with OS/2) or one of the many utilities such
as EABACKUP and EARESTORE to seperately store the EA's onto the CD as a
seperate file.

	Note that with none of the above mechanisms will the EA's be available
when you actually run a program or datafile from the CD - they're only
good for archiving the EA's for if/when you restore the files to a hard
disk.

	Perhaps if you can explain what you're trying to do with the EA's I can
give you better advice as to how to work around the fact that CD's don't
support EA's.

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca                       01-Oct-99 19:27:23
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:20
Subj: Re: AWE32 driver under Win-OS/2

From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Stan Goodman (l_luciano@da.mob) wrote:
: Of all the many files listed under AWE32 -- Win3.x on the Creative Labs 
: website, does anyone know which might be the basic DRIVER I need for 
: Win-OS/2, as distinct from the various available accesories for the card? I
: have downloaded several apparently good candidates for the driver, none of 
: which has proved to be an actual driver.

Don't.
In your Warp install, there's a README file in your root directory. It
details how to go about adding sound support for Win-OS2 + AWE32.
No extra download needed. It worked fine here.


Isaac

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 01-Oct-99 18:24:20
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:20
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-h35nWQB6o8xU@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
>On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:17:27, hamei@pacbell.net a crit dans un message:
>
>> In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-xGdrCoFddPL9@sphericalburn.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
>> >On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:54:19, "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net> a 
>> >crit dans un message:
>> >> 
>> >> > Gawd... just had a truly horrible thought. Is anyone out there using a
>> >> > 2400 Baud modem?   <grin... I _hope_!>
>> >
>> >Actually, I have one plugged into an extra COM port to act as an outward 
>> >dialer for the IBMWORKS PIM. Speed doesn't enter into that operation.
>> 
>> that's a helluva good idea. thank you
>
>??. Another touch of that famed Villain Idiot Irony? (Not all of us are 
>peddlin' forward-thrusting technology. Plus I've got a box of long-paid-for
>hardware that keeps staring at me and sees through to my hippie-era soul, 
>the one that shared the spirit that beat junk car roofs into semi-geodesic 
>domes at desert commune homesteads.)
>


eeep, see what happens when you get a bad rep ? I was serious.

have a lot of old junk myself - whatta ya do with a 2400 baud modem ?
It'd make a great dialler ! and with ADSL coming into this area, all those
cheap dual cpu PPro boards around, why buy a new modem when the 
old clunker can do a fine job, give me a telephone dialler as well as the
ADSL ? spiffy. (but I won't say thanks again, lest I be accused of more
interesting crimes :-) 

(by the way, forward-thrusting wouldn't seem accurate around here -
anyone else got a facit tape punch on their desktop ? at least it's 
newer than the ASR-33 was) 


>
>
>Good luck,
>
>Buddy
>
>Buddy Donnelly
>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
>
>


--
Hrad ngravvrd

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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           01-Oct-99 13:27:14
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:20
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61: How to set it up for Hebrew webpages?

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

I wish someone had reported the drag drop problem to the closed icon.

It will be placed on the service defect list.

Mike Kaply
IBM



Arie Kazachin wrote:

>NS 4.61:        Does Hebrew too. Slowest of the three. Drag&drop URL object
>                onto an OPEN NS 4.61 opens URL object as file instead of
>                going to this URL. The same workaround with REXX script
>                allows URL object to be dropped onto Icon of NS.
>                Takes about 7MB when started empty.
>                I'll use ot for Hebrew pages. I started this whole issue
>                of Hebrew pages mainly because my father asked me to
>                fix the Hebrew pages viewing on his machine. I rarely
>                surf Hebrew sites. Now, when I know what should I do,
>                I'll install NS 4.61 on his machine too (assuming
>                computers behave in a deterministic way).   :-)

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From: knud_ch@post1.tele.dk                             01-Oct-99 21:56:14
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:20
Subj: NS 4.61- newsgroup message contents missing

From: Knud <knud_ch@post1.tele.dk>

Hi 

I have just installed NS 4.61 and every thing seems to work ok except
one thing

When I pick a message in a news group the message contents is empty,
when I try to make a reply the contents are there !

Any suggenstions ?

Knud

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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  01-Oct-99 19:06:23
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:20
Subj: AWE32 driver under Win-OS/2

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

Of all the many files listed under AWE32 -- Win3.x on the Creative Labs 
website, does anyone know which might be the basic DRIVER I need for 
Win-OS/2, as distinct from the various available accesories for the card? I
have downloaded several apparently good candidates for the driver, none of 
which has proved to be an actual driver.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.



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From: rob@schroeder.net                                 01-Oct-99 21:08:26
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: Robert Schroeder <rob@schroeder.net>

frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) wrote:

> In <37F4306B.4315DA13@adan.kingston.net>, "Mark L. Kahnt" 
> <kahnt@adan.kingston.net> writes:

> Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
> reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
> printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty boxes
> attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and spit
> out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).
>
> The professor's technique had a one-character-sized pixel (not square,
> obviously (;-)) and used various letters/symbols with some 
overprinting
> to achieve appropriate greyscale levels.  In order to provide a
> sufficient number of pixels the image was printed in "strips" and then
> joined.  Anyone remember the 6' by 8' StarTrek images?
>
> Anyway, we could use a similar approach to display 'web graphics on 
your
> teletype and 110-baud modem.  A bit slow, though...  and hard-copy 
only.
> Do I hear any volunteers for the Beta testing? (;-)

Here, me. Had the opportunity to gather a tiny bit of experience in 
that field too. I was doing that /370 assembler course where I had 
access to a Pascal compiler for the /370 as well, and being more 
fluent in Pascal than in Assembler at the time, and just having coded 
some Mandelbrot graphics in Pascal on my Apple ][ clone at home, I 
wanted to see how long the mainframe would need for the same sizes and 
recursion depths... I did need a significant amount of paper though. 
Fortunately we had large rooms with lots of unused floor space so we 
could even arrange the results and look at the complete images!

But those deeds of cpu time abuse were unhindered by too slow 
communication lines or such. But much later, already in the early 
nineties (!), there was some COBOL course which was held in rented 
rooms outside the main building, and participants' teletype terminals 
were connected to the mainframe over a 2400 baud line. Very 
interesting experience... no graphics applications there, though, not 
even hardcopy only!

But none of that even comes close to some scenarios I've been told 
some German government offices manage to set up with Windows NT. Like, 
networking offices with lines of 64 or 128 (some even 256) kbps, and 
using those lines to connect bunches of several PCs to one NT server 
each, which has to serve as file server, application server and link 
to some "legacy software" that runs on a unix server through terminal 
emulation. I've been told by trustworthy sources that they even try to 
run automated software upgrades and Service Pack installations for NT 
over those lines, what turned out to take from several hours to 
several days per task, during which the employee is expected not to 
touch the machine... I'm quite sure it's just a matter of time they 
all wish that they had stayed Unix-only, even if that would have meant 
staying text terminal only...

Cheers,
Rob



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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         01-Oct-99 18:06:23
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

In article <37f4e4c6$1$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru>,
  "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> wrote:
> In <7t2ltr$4d6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/01/99
>    at 04:02 PM, Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com> said:
>
> >> 2) Make a set of Boot diskettes, since even just running in command
> >> line mode will lock some files on restore. (I use, and prefer, BOOT
> >> OS/2 - look for BTOS290.ZIP, in the usual places.
>
> >I went to hobbes.nmsu.edu and found a file named bootos2.zip but
> >nothing named btos290.zip.  I am not familiar with what the "usual
> >places" would be (I've only been working on OS/2 for four weeks now,
> >I'd never even seen a photo of it before then).  Could you be a
little
> >more specific please?
>
> You have d'loaded the correct file, it's the latest version AFAIK.
Just
> unzip it in some directory and read the BOOTOS2.DOC file.

Thanks! :)  Have a great weekend!

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Oct-99 14:20:14
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 update - Where

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard) said:
>> A week or so I got Java 1.1.8 from Software Choice Catalog and installed it 
last
>> night.  Do I still have to get the update?  If so, where?

>Check your version with 'java -fullversion'. If it's build 
>o118-19990910, you have the latest fix. If not, you can get it from:

>ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/118/

Thanks.  What is on Software Choice is old.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           01-Oct-99 17:34:19
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 on Warp3/FP32

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 1 Oct 1999 00:33:22, rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham) 
wrote:

..snip...
> I'm not trying to install into *any* particular directory.  I run Install
> and it says it can't create a directory.  It doesn't say what (or where)
> directory it is trying to create.
> 
>     -Jerry
> -- 
> ============================================================
> Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
> E-Mail: rjlapham@infinet.com
> Written Friday, October 01, 1999 - 12:33 AM (EDT)
> ============================================================
> MR/2 Ice tag:  WARNING:  Check your toilet paper stockpile.  Make sure it's
Y2K compliant. Word has it, if it isn't, come Jan 1, 2000, it will roll back
to 1900, then turn into a Sears Catalog.

OK, I assume you never get asked for the directory where you want to 
install to, which, probably, means that the install program is looking
for a place to put it's installation program stuff.

This should be looking at your SET TEMP=x:\temp and/or SET TMP=x:\temp
variables, in CONFIG.SYS, in order to find a place to put the file (I 
am not 100% sure that this is the case, but it is a place to start). 
Check these two entries. Both entries should be there. x: should be 
the disk with the most room on it. \temp should exist (it doesn't need
to be \temp, but that is a good name for it). There should be only ONE
set of these (if there are multiple entries, only the LAST one will be
used). If these entries don't exist, it will try to use the root 
directory, on your boot drive (which is messy, at the very least). If 
your boot drive happens to be FAT formatted, you have a restriction of
512 directory entries, which includes directories, and the volume 
label.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: donm@ftel.net                                     01-Oct-99 20:46:13
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse)

In message <TBWI3.6472$Gg6.53975@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> -
fmiller1@fmiller1@home.comFri, 01 Oct 1999 04:17:55 GMT writes:
:>
:>A very informative post.  Very well done.
:>
:>Thank you

:>>I'm back online and raring to go!  Here's my syslevel
:>>information:
:>>


C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.FPK
                           OS/2 Warp 4 Service Level
Version 1.00     Component ID 566933010
Type Fixpak
Current CSD level: XR0M012
Prior   CSD level: XR0M012

C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2
                           IBM OS/2 Base Operating System
Version 4.00     Component ID 5639A6100
Type 0C
Current CSD level: XR0M012
Prior   CSD level: XR04000

Press Enter (<) to display next page.

I have also upgraded to fp12 using the RSU page.  I've been using
it since, well, seems like forever....  Home and Office....

works great and yes, an upgrade, even with purchase would be
ideal through this method....







********************************************************
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     Then Bill Gates had 25 monkeys and a week! 
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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           01-Oct-99 15:32:22
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

Frank McKenney wrote:
> 
> In <37F4306B.4315DA13@adan.kingston.net>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<kahnt@adan.kingston.net> writes:
> >Frank McKenney wrote:

[***SNIP!!!***]

> 
> Well, now that you mention it...
> 
> Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
> reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
> printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty boxes
> attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and spit
> out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).
> 
> The professor's technique had a one-character-sized pixel (not square,
> obviously (;-)) and used various letters/symbols with some overprinting
> to achieve appropriate greyscale levels.  In order to provide a
> sufficient number of pixels the image was printed in "strips" and then
> joined.  Anyone remember the 6' by 8' StarTrek images?
> 
> Anyway, we could use a similar approach to display 'web graphics on your
> teletype and 110-baud modem.  A bit slow, though...  and hard-copy only.
> Do I hear any volunteers for the Beta testing? (;-)
> 
> Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
> Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
> E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com

I remember those - in fact, I've seen a program that could take images
in a couple of different formats (seems to me they were pcx and
MacPaint), and convert them to text images. And I remember full well the
1403 and related line printers - faster than your average laser printer
at pumping out pages of stuff.
-- 

============================================================
To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers"
portion of the Reply to: value.

Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
Voix:        (613) 531-8767   Cellulaire: (613) 539-0935
Telecopieur: (613) 531-8684   Email: kahnt@adan.kingston.net

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From: jstuyck@home.com                                  01-Oct-99 19:49:10
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: Jim Stuyck <jstuyck@home.com>


"Mark L. Kahnt" wrote:

> Frank McKenney wrote:
> >
> > In <37F4306B.4315DA13@adan.kingston.net>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<kahnt@adan.kingston.net> writes:
> > >Frank McKenney wrote:
>
> [***SNIP!!!***]
>
> >
> > Well, now that you mention it...
> >
> > Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
> > reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
> > printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty boxes
> > attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and spit
> > out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).

Sounds like someone forgot to punch a hole in his carriage control
tape, or screwed up gluing it together and it came apart!  ;-)
(I go waaaay back, too.  Been there, done that.)


> I remember those - in fact, I've seen a program that could take images
> in a couple of different formats (seems to me they were pcx and
> MacPaint), and convert them to text images. And I remember full well the
> 1403 and related line printers - faster than your average laser printer
> at pumping out pages of stuff.

No 1403-N1 could (or can) hold a candle to, say, an IBM 3800 which is
a laser machine that uses cut paper, unlike the fanfold of the 1403.  And
the 3800 has been around for a looooong time.

Where have you been?  ;-)

Jim Stuyck

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From: jstuyck@home.com                                  01-Oct-99 19:51:28
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: Jim Stuyck <jstuyck@home.com>


Jim Stuyck wrote:

> "Mark L. Kahnt" wrote:
>
> > Frank McKenney wrote:
> > >
> > > In <37F4306B.4315DA13@adan.kingston.net>, "Mark L. Kahnt"
<kahnt@adan.kingston.net> writes:
> > > >Frank McKenney wrote:
> >
> > [***SNIP!!!***]
> >
> > >
> > > Well, now that you mention it...
> > >
> > > Back in the mid-70s a professor at Princeton developed a method for
> > > reproducing semi-photograph-quality graphic output from a 1403 line
> > > printer (for the younger readers, that's one of those heavy-duty boxes
> > > attached to an IBM mainframe that will, on occasion, suck up and spit
> > > out a full box of 14"-wide paper in seconds (;-)).
>
> Sounds like someone forgot to punch a hole in his carriage control
> tape, or screwed up gluing it together and it came apart!  ;-)
> (I go waaaay back, too.  Been there, done that.)
>
> > I remember those - in fact, I've seen a program that could take images
> > in a couple of different formats (seems to me they were pcx and
> > MacPaint), and convert them to text images. And I remember full well the
> > 1403 and related line printers - faster than your average laser printer
> > at pumping out pages of stuff.
>
> No 1403-N1 could (or can) hold a candle to, say, an IBM 3800 which is
> a laser machine that uses cut paper, unlike the fanfold of the 1403.  And
> the 3800 has been around for a looooong time.

Oops...make that "uses fanfold paper, like the 1403."  Been out of the
business too long, it appears.


>
>
> Where have you been?  ;-)
>
> Jim Stuyck

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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               01-Oct-99 21:32:29
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: FP12:  A Piece Of Cake!

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)


>> Anyway, we could use a similar approach to display 'web graphics on your
>> teletype and 110-baud modem.  A bit slow, though...  and hard-copy only. 
>> Do I hear any volunteers for the Beta testing? (;-)
 
> Well, I have an old computer I don't plan to use for the next several years. 
<g>

Perhaps you guys prefer a real DataProducts Band Printer? Seem to have such
a beast in the basement. Rather heavy though, might be expensive to ship <g>.
Or should I try to hook it up to my cable-modem? How to get the boxes with
listing
paper up the stairs ot the appartment fast enough then? How do I send your
guys
the results? Scan it and then as attachment to emails? My cable ISP would hate 
it.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Oct-99 16:19:01
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: NC 4.61 - Append any broken download?

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Frank Stolpmann <FStolpmann@knuut.de> said:

>I wonder if NC 4.61 is capable to append broken downloads. 
> 
>Any hints?

That depends on what breaks it.  The Silent Vanisher bug gets a signal that
the
file is complete - so no way to complete it.

In some other situations such as killing the download yourself, 4.61 will hold
the partial file in disk cache and finish it later if you restart it.

Jim L
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From: donm@ftel.net                                     01-Oct-99 20:47:16
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: AIM for Java and Java 1.1.8

From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse)

In message <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fiucc81.pminews@news.monmouth.com> - "Chris
Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:43:20 -0400 (EDT) writes:
:>
:>Hi,
:>
:>	Has anyone had any problems with the java version of AOL Instant
:>Messenger with Java 1.1.8?  I had it running on my machine a while back with
:>java 1.1.4 without any problems along with ICQ for java, which also does not
:>work.  With AIM, I just get a very tiny pm window that I can't resize.  It
is
:>supposed to be the login screen.  Anyone seen this problem and know how to
:>fix it?
:>

AIM and ICQJava both working here with 1.1.8...  ??


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From: donm@ftel.net                                     01-Oct-99 20:50:06
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: Net2Phone for Win3.x

From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse)

In message <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-dkK9ddMw0gkp@POBLANO> - l_luciano@da.mob (Stan
Goodman)Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:08:58 GMT writes:
:>
:>I downloaded this file, which is a self-expanding compressed file. An 
:>attempt to run it got me an error message from Win-OS/2: "DOS error 23". 
:>What is this error? Is this program known to run in Win-OS/2?
:>

If I'm not mistaken, thats a Win32 error...  remember, Win 3.1 also had
a Win32 package that went a rev above what OS/2 supported...






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From: smariga@gte.net                                   02-Oct-99 00:56:02
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: RSU of FP12 gives Error 11

From: Alex Smariga <smariga@gte.net>

On 1 Oct 1999 10:09:09 EDT, Dick Kurtz wrote:

Dick,

Thanks for the response.  In response to fixes for WsEB, how will I know
when there is a FixPak available?  Do you think there will be a separate
series?

As far as JFS is concerned, a problem in this area doesn't surprise me. 
I was all gung ho to use JFS in place of HPFS, but have had several 
serious file / Disk corruptions on my JFS partitions, and some apps 
plain don't work well or work so slow its unusable.  I've pretty much 
moved everything back to HPFS, except I still have one partition I need 
to move one of these days.

Alex

>Ref:     Append at 19:50:48 on 99/10/01 -0800 (by smariga@gte.net)
>
>I suspect this has something to do with JFS though I'm not sure. In any case,
>FP12 does not apply to WSeB so it would be a waste of time to download it.
>If I ever get access to a WSeB system running JFS I'll see if I can debug the
>RSUINST problem. Tried it on a WSeB system running HOFS386 and it worked
okay.
>
>> I decided to update my WsEB system with FP12.  I downloaded the RSUINITn
>> files, updated them where it said, and started the RSU update.
>>
>> Almost immediately, I get an error 11 as soon as I've selected the drive
>> and it starts to download.
>>
>> I looked in the docs, and there is no reference of error 11.  Can
>> someone point me in a direction that can answer what I'm doing wrong?
>
>Dick Kurtz
>eBusiness Development, Austin Tx.
>


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From: gayleburnettNOgaSPAM@earthlink.n...               01-Oct-99 13:07:28
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61- too slow

Message sender: gayleburnettNOgaSPAM@earthlink.net.invalid

From: gayleb <gayleburnettNOgaSPAM@earthlink.net.invalid>

Tried your suggestions. Netscape 4.61 is running
much faster now.

Thanks!


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             30-Sep-99 18:11:12
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: Saving a Word document on peer OS/2

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:43:26 GMT, Milind Rao wrote:

>I'm pretty sure it's not the cable.  I have seen this problem on a 
>regular LAN.  At the time, I thought maybe it's because it was an NT 
>network and there was some problem with the way I was connecting to 
>it.  But now with just two machines, it is definitely down to some 
>misbehaviour between Peer and Word.  I have no problem saving a file 
>from Netscape on NT to a drive on the OS/2 machine.

Might this all be related to the old "master browser" problem from
Win95/NT4 days? I don't know if it is but the symptoms are very much
the same as those produced when someone sets their local machine as the
"master browser" on a regular LAN.


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             30-Sep-99 17:57:24
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 on Warp3/FP32

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 05:58:29 GMT, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

>Also, if you go to a command prompt and type the
>command "SET TEMP" or "SET TMP", are they set to
>a directory on a drive with much free space?

Also check that "temp" and "tmp" are pointing to a subdirectory, not
the root of a drive. i.e. temp=x:\temp\ , NOT temp=x:\ .


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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           01-Oct-99 15:15:24
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: NS 4.61- newsgroup message contents missing

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Knud wrote:

> When I pick a message in a news group the message contents is empty,
> when I try to make a reply the contents are there !
>
> Any suggenstions ?

Edit-Preferences, select Fonts, switch Fixed Width font
from Courier New to Courier (or something else).

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Oct-99 17:33:25
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: FP 12 and UNZIP

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

danielh@crosslink.net said:

>It turns out that I have unzip 5.40; when I dug up a copy of  UNZIP 5.2 and
>copied it to  $RSUTMP$, the problem went away.  BTW: I recollect this problem
>also existed in fp 11.


Yep, later UNZIP versions give RSU fits.  There's a reason, but I forgot it. 
If
I remember correctly, PKUNZIP does not have the problem in later versions.  It
may have been a legal thing between PK and InfoZip.

I have InfoZIP version 5.32 which worked great with FP12.

Jim L
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From: nobody@nowhere.com                                01-Oct-99 16:56:11
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: Re: FP 12 and UNZIP

From: nobody <nobody@nowhere.com>

Hi,

Your unzipping problems are probably due to IBM using old version of
PKZIP to create the archives. Seems IBM has a lot of old versions laying
around that they are still using. The latest Unzip distrobutions do not
include code to unzip PKZIP 0.9x and 1.x unreducing/unshrinking methods
due to patent/copyright issues of some sort. However, the source code
contains this code, all you have to do is enable it and recompile. To do
this, download the unzip source code at ftp.cdrom.com, and in unzip.h
define USE_SMITH_CODE and USE_UNSHRINK

If you don't have any compilers, or don't know how to compile a program,
you might just want to download PKZIP 2.50 for OS/2 and use it when
UnZip doesn't work.




danielh@crosslink.net wrote:
> 
> I managed to install FP 12 (I like to download and unzip, and the run
os2serv later), but
> I ran into two problems.
> 
> 1) The installation program complains about not being able to unzip a file
(FTPINSTL?), and stops.
> It turns out that I have unzip 5.40; when I dug up a copy of  UNZIP 5.2 and
copied it to
> $RSUTMP$, the problem went away.  BTW: I recollect this problem also existed 
in fp 11.
> 
> 2) When I ran os2serv, it complained about not being able to create a
4\ARCHIVE ... (or something like
> that) directory. When I renamed an existing \ARCHIVE directory (to \ARC0),
the problem went away.
> 
> Otherwise, an esay install. I like that it can recover from "deleted archive 
directory" (no more need to
> find and remove LOGF0000.* files).  And the download from ibm was fast!
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> danielh@crosslink.net
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    01-Oct-99 21:58:15
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: DESCRIBE Experts needed

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

	Okay, just got Describe in the mail today (thanks Paul).  Damn 
that's a good manual...  Anyways, I have it installed in all forms.  OS/2 
version, Win3.1 version (Win-OS/2), and also on my Windows 95 partition.  
Everything seems to work fine except on the Windows 95 side.  Apparently, 
each time I start it, it gives me this error message "...screen...".  I 
didn't write it down in detail, but suffice to say it was the number of 
colors displayed.  Apparently Describe Win32 does not like having 65k 
colors (High color - 16bit), nor does it like True Color - 32bit so that 
leaves me with a crummy 256 colors.  Don't know if the resolution matters
any (set at 800x600 currently).  Does this "Frequent Flier CDROM" update 
the Windows 95 version since I have read it updates the OS/2 version.  
Interesting problem since the Windows 3.1 version did not give any such 
error message.
	I'm standardizing myself on Describe at any event.  Now, this 
means I can type away doing whatever I normally do under OS/2 and can 
then print the document up under Win-OS/2 (or Windows 95) with the best 
possible printing quality that my inkjet printer can deliever.  Man this 
will just kick ass when I have photo's embedded in my Describe 
documents.  No more re-formatting!

(To Buddy; it arrived, thanks)

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From: maxikins@os2bbs.com                               01-Oct-99 22:09:07
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 23:42:03
Subj: Re: Backing up and Restoring with Back Again/2

From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff)

FWIW, I've moved entire OS/2 systems from one hard disk to a new one 
by using BA/2 command line-disk driven restore

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From: rrkurtz@us.ibm.com                                01-Oct-99 15:44:17
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 23:42:03
Subj: Re: RSU of FP12 gives Error 11

From: Dick Kurtz <rrkurtz@us.ibm.com>

Ref:     Append at 00:56:05 on 99/10/02 -0800 (by smariga@gte.net)

Yes, I believe there will be a separate fixpak stream for WSeB.

> Thanks for the response.  In response to fixes for WsEB, how will I know
> when there is a FixPak available?  Do you think there will be a separate
> series?

Dick Kurtz
eBusiness Development, Austin Tx.

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               01-Oct-99 23:30:23
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 23:42:03
Subj: Re: XFree86, GIMP and GhostScript????

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Ray Appleby schrieb:
> I'm aware of the later versions for OS/2 but there is only one
> designated for X11 on Hobbes.  I don't have the tools or the knowledge
> to compile the source from later versions under XFree86/X11.
> 
> Are you saying that I can run the OS/2 native code under XFree86?

Yes! The code needed for XFree has been added. It's a simple matter of
specifying the device as explained on the page. And BTW, Ghostscript
uses EMX anyway AFAIK.

> Will installing the OS/2 version 5.50 solve the "Can't find the
> gs_init.ps" file problem?

I think so if you've set the environtment variables correctly.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
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From: rjlapham@infinet.com                              01-Oct-99 00:23:11
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 23:42:03
Subj: Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 on Warp3/FP32

From: rjlapham@infinet.com (Jerry Lapham)

In <37F2FB6C.247977D9@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>, on 09/30/99 
   at 05:58 AM, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> said:


> Jerry Lapham wrote:

> > I'm not running 4OS2, I don't have any directory names with spaces, and I
> > have no idea what directory the Install app is trying to create.  Where do
> > I go from here?

> Do you have much space on your C: drive?

It's a 127MB FAT drive with DOS/Win31.  It has about 45MB free.


> about your boot drive (if not C:)....?

OS/2 boots from E:, which has about 370MB free.

> Also, if you go to a command prompt and type the
> command "SET TEMP" or "SET TMP", are they set to
> a directory on a drive with much free space?

SET TEMP shows drive H:, which has about 800MB free.  SET TMP points to
drive E: (about 370MB free).

> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

What directory is it trying to create and where?

    -Jerry
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From: mcbrides@erols.com                                01-Oct-99 17:30:04
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 23:42:03
Subj: FP42: A Piece Of Cake!

From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride)

I though I'd drop a note to those that may be interested. I just finished
applying FixPak#42 to Warp 3.0 red, no problems, no hitches...

Also, for those that are interested, I've uploaded a file to Hobbes that
allows
one to apply the later fixpaks to Warp 3.0 red or blue, client systems. Look
for B100.zip and B100.txt.

And remember, use at your own risk, destruction or benefit. :')

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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   01-Oct-99 18:41:09
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 23:42:03
Subj: Re: FP12: A Piece Of Cake!

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 07:17:27 GMT, hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

:>  >
:>  >Actually, I have one plugged into an extra COM port to act as an outward 
:>  >dialer for the IBMWORKS PIM. Speed doesn't enter into that operation.
:>  
:>  that's a helluva good idea. thank you
:>  
:>  

Thanks for the tip, Buddy.

But I don't understand that 'extra COM port' part: where do you find one of 
those? <g>

Peter

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From: dcurren@ibm.net                                   01-Oct-99 16:51:25
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 23:42:03
Subj: Oct 1st, still using 0s2 and ibm.net

From: "Dale Curren" <dcurren@ibm.net>

I suspected to get a message telling me that I was not acceptable in the 
world of AT&T but I logged on just like always, picked up and sent email, 
picked up my newsgroups, cruised through a bunch of favorite websites.  
Can it last?


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From: void@nospam.demon.nl                              01-Oct-99 18:35:25
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 23:42:03
Subj: Re: OS20MEMU stopped working after FP40 (WARP 3)

From: huug <void@nospam.demon.nl>

>>>>> "Peter" == Peter McMorran <mcmorran@norfolk.infi.net> writes:

 Peter> However, Fixpak 10 for Warp 4 has again killed OS20MEMU. And
 Peter> it's still dead with Fixpak 11. I would also be happy to hear of
 Peter> any way to restore it.

You mean it is supposed to work with FP8?  Here it doesn't (at least, it
doesn't show the process list: if you know the PID you want, you can
still type it in).

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