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From: void@nospam.demon.nl                              25-Sep-99 02:10:10
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 03:57:26
Subj: Re: Netlabs statement about the future of OS/2

From: huug <void@nospam.demon.nl>

>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Stan <rsstan@ibm.net> writes:

 Bob> I wish there would be a new client, but I think it unlikely.

Frankly, I don't care as long they do have an avordable upgrade planned,
with the backward compatibility I've come to expect from IBM.  Warp
Client 5, Warp Servlet For e-Business, Warped Linux/BSD/Hurd: as long as
it fits the specs, it's fine with me.

In the mean time, they could issue a Client 4.1 media refresh, so people
could install 4.0 with fresh fixpacks, java updates, etc. in one go.

-- 
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From: pierre@datarescue.com                             26-Sep-99 17:20:09
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:18
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: pierre@datarescue.com (Pierre Vandevenne)

In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-wwZulyK1IdJn@man-086.dialup.zetnet.co.uk>,
rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 04:16:25, Peter Fitzsimmons <pfitzsim@home.com> 
>wrote:
>
>> There's a neat little binary editor called HED that will do disassembly;
>> it won't create a *.asm that you can feed into MASM, but it is good for
>> hacking on stuff.
>
>Yes, I found that, and I'm certainly keeping it in mind for a  few 
>jobs. But right now I need to generate ASM...


The freeware version, which can be found in the disassembler directory on 
SIMTEL, runs under DOS but should be able to handle OS/2 programs as well. It 
lacks features of the more recent versions ( compiler library identification, 
stack variable tracking etc... ) but should be enough to generate decent asm 
listings (don't forget the result can be improved manually). I don't think 
this particular version is limited to 64 KB executables (demos of the full 
products were in the past).


http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/msdos/disasm.html

Pierre

---
Pierre Vandevenne
www.datarescue.com, home of the IDA Pro Disassembler



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From: rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru                          26-Sep-99 14:12:06
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: OS/2 emulator

From: "Rinat H. Sadretdinow" <rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru>

Hello everybody!

Does anybody know if exists an OS/2 emulator for Linux like Wine
for Windows? I've tried VMWare but it crushes somewhere while
loading os2krnl and hungs my computer up. I have to press `reset'
to reboot, even CAD is not working.

Or did anybody think of writing such software? Maybe there is
some work on it somewhere? I thought about `Yet Another OS/2',
it might be possible. The only thing I've not figured out is
16-bit applications and DosSelToFlat and DosFlatToSel -- how
can one do the same manipulations with LDT like OS/2 kernel
does?

-- 
Bye!

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From: rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru                          26-Sep-99 14:23:11
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 18:36:19
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: "Rinat H. Sadretdinow" <rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru>

Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:25:38, "Rinat H. Sadretdinow" 
> <rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru> wrote:
> 
>> Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote:
>> > I'm after a good disassembler, preferably 16 and 32 bit, that'll run 
>> > under OS/2 and understand LX binaries if possible.
>> > 
>> > I don't mind paying for it, but not vast amounts. I looked at IDA, but
>> > they want about $230 and that's TOO much...
>> > 
>> > Help please!
>> >
>> Old versions of IDA run under OS/2 and understand OS/2, Win16 and Win32
>> binaries. I own version of 3.75 and it runs well for me. Nowadays there
>> is a version 4.0. Is it the version that costs so too much? And back to
>> the topic, old versions are (were at least) available via ftp at no fee.
>> I'll know the details from the author and post my results here.
> 
> It's IDA Pro that cosst too much. I have an older version off Hobbes. 
> It's crippled, in that it won't save the disassembled files.
>
Yes, I know about this demo. Which version number is it?
>
> It has a  supoosed registration fee of $39, which is fine...but it's dated
> a few years ago so I checked and found we're now into much more money (and 
> functionality).
> 
My 3.75 is old enough but functions well. Most functionality the author
adds is that new versions support more processors, more executable
formats and more compilers and libraries for IDA FLAIR technology.
I'm not sure there is significal changes in x86 and OS/2 binaries
support.
>
> Any more info is welcomed. Thanks.
>
I've asked in fido7.ru.ida conference. They keep silence yet.

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From: wilson@dbit.com                                   27-Sep-99 02:28:00
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:09
Subj: Re: OS/2 emulator

From: wilson@dbit.com (John Wilson)

In article <7sl9js$186$1@rhs.at.home>,
Rinat H. Sadretdinow <rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru> wrote:
>The only thing I've not figured out is
>16-bit applications and DosSelToFlat and DosFlatToSel -- how
>can one do the same manipulations with LDT like OS/2 kernel
>does?

By using the modify_ldt() system call.  It's ugly but it does work.  There are
a few other things to worry about when running segmented programs under
Linux, since Linux is a little lazy some times when switching user stacks.
The clone() system call sets ESP but not SS, and there are two different
ways (depending on the kernel version), neither documented of course, to
handle setting up a separate stack for receiving signals if your mainline
is running on other than a flat stack.

The nice thing though, is that once you set up your own little 16:16
environment, you're *not* isolated from the rest of the system like with other
OSes I could mention.  You can fire off INT 80h instructions from anywhere
(well, probably not V86 mode, but that's not what we're talking about),
and make any sys call you want.  It doesn't matter if you have a funny CS
or SS because all Linux cares about is flat addresses (which are passed in
registers, at least for starters) so that's what you use for pointers in
sys calls and your LDT is your own business, as it should be.

John Wilson
D Bit

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        26-Sep-99 20:26:00
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Rex Organiser

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

How would I go about getting an OS/2 program to write to a 
Rex Personal Organizer?

The Rex Organizer is a neat lIttle pcmcia gagdet developed by Franklin....
see:-

http://www.franklin.com/rex

and comes with TrueSync from Starfish which can export data from 
Lotus Organizer and Notes among others onto thr Rex card.

I know about DCITU and Pilot Link which give OS/2 users access to other
devices
they may not be able to use otherwise, so I hope something comes along to
support the Rex card...

--
John



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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    26-Sep-99 19:53:06
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:23:22, "Rinat H. Sadretdinow" 
<rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru> wrote:

> > It's IDA Pro that cosst too much. I have an older version off Hobbes. 
> > It's crippled, in that it won't save the disassembled files.
> >
> Yes, I know about this demo. Which version number is it?

3.04 (for OS/2)

> My 3.75 is old enough but functions well. Most functionality the author
> adds is that new versions support more processors, more executable
> formats and more compilers and libraries for IDA FLAIR technology.
> I'm not sure there is significal changes in x86 and OS/2 binaries
> support.

Exactly. Apart from not saving ASM files, the functionality of 3.04 is
fine!

> I've asked in fido7.ru.ida conference. They keep silence yet.

Thank you.....
-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    26-Sep-99 19:53:07
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:20:18, pierre@datarescue.com (Pierre 
Vandevenne) wrote:

> >> There's a neat little binary editor called HED that will do disassembly;
> >> it won't create a *.asm that you can feed into MASM, but it is good for
> >> hacking on stuff.

> The freeware version, which can be found in the disassembler directory on 
> SIMTEL, runs under DOS but should be able to handle OS/2 programs as well.
It 
> lacks features of the more recent versions ( compiler library
identification, 
> stack variable tracking etc... ) but should be enough to generate decent asm 

> listings (don't forget the result can be improved manually). I don't think 
> this particular version is limited to 64 KB executables (demos of the full 
> products were in the past).

Is this HED or IDA you're talking about?

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru                          26-Sep-99 20:12:03
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: "Rinat H. Sadretdinow" <rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru>

Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:20:18, pierre@datarescue.com (Pierre 
> Vandevenne) wrote:
> 
>> >> There's a neat little binary editor called HED that will do disassembly;
>> >> it won't create a *.asm that you can feed into MASM, but it is good for
>> >> hacking on stuff.
> 
>> The freeware version, which can be found in the disassembler directory on 
>> SIMTEL, runs under DOS but should be able to handle OS/2 programs as well.
It 
>> lacks features of the more recent versions ( compiler library
identification, 
>> stack variable tracking etc... ) but should be enough to generate decent
asm 
>> listings (don't forget the result can be improved manually). I don't think 
>> this particular version is limited to 64 KB executables (demos of the full 
>> products were in the past).
> 
> Is this HED or IDA you're talking about?
> 
I think he's talking about IDA. Datarescue is IDA distributor :)

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    26-Sep-99 20:21:11
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:20:18, pierre@datarescue.com (Pierre 
Vandevenne) wrote:

> The freeware version, which can be found in the disassembler directory on 
> SIMTEL, runs under DOS but should be able to handle OS/2 programs as well.

Thanks...this looks promising...

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    26-Sep-99 21:26:28
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:12:07, "Rinat H. Sadretdinow" 
<rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru> wrote:

> I think he's talking about IDA. Datarescue is IDA distributor :)

Thanks, I found the free one he mentioned. I had an earlier OS/2 one 
which was fine, except it wouldn't save ASM files. I was willing to 
pay my $39 and register, until I realised the price had gone up to 
$229!

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    26-Sep-99 21:54:04
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 19:55:10
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

Adrian Gschwend <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org> writes:
>
> PHP3 is really easy to learn 

What do you recommend for a "teach yourself" book? I know Perl and Rexx,
and HTML of course.

Pierre
-- 
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: rgehrig@primenet.com                              26-Sep-99 18:08:16
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com>

<snip>
>No.  Mind you, I may be somewhat biased.  You see, I work for DB2.  ;-)
>---
>Disclaimer: unless explicitly mentioned otherwise, I do not speak
>for the company I work for.
>
>
>
Darian

I need to try out the netdata access to DB2.

I have apache 1.3.9 on one machine and DB2 on another.

What do I need to do to get netdata working.

Thanks



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From: dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org                     27-Sep-99 01:46:17
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:04
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org>

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:08:33 -0400 (EDT), Robert Gehrig wrote:

>I need to try out the netdata access to DB2.
>
>I have apache 1.3.9 on one machine and DB2 on another.
>
>What do I need to do to get netdata working.

I've not used Net.Data.  :-(  Does Net.Data have a client version?  You'll
definitely need to have that installed on the machine with Apache on it.  (I
can't see how Net.Data couldn't have a client version - after all, it's based
on DB2 which has server/client products.)

What are the OS's?  OS/2 for both?
---
Disclaimer: unless explicitly mentioned otherwise, I do not speak
for the company I work for.



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From: wsrue@IBM.net                                     26-Sep-99 23:23:16
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:05
Subj: NS 4.61 and VA Java

From: "Walter S. Rue" <wsrue@IBM.net>

In VA Java Professional v2, when I happen to select a Help pull-down
item, Communicator automatically launches and displays a page entitled
"VisualAge Help Navigation".  But about a minute later, whether simply
viewing or actively navigating, the entire screen suddenly goes
colorless blank and shows the following message:

        NetQuestion

        EHS0410: An error was detected when starting the search service.
        Stop the service and start again.

        Press enter to continue...

After the Enter, the original Communicator screen reappears and I am
able to proceed normally.  The error happens only after the first
Communicator display (so far).  No matter what Help topic I select, this
sequence is the same.  It happens out of Communicator, but only when
launched by VA Java.  No damage is apparent and no re-boot seems needed.

Is this a bug or a feature?  Are there any workarounds?

My environment is Warp v4, FP11, Java v1.1.8 build o118-19990910, TCP
v4.1.

Thanks in advance.

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From: cannon@sonic.net                                  26-Sep-99 22:18:17
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 04:11:05
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 and VA Java

From: Andrew Cannon <cannon@sonic.net>


"Walter S. Rue" wrote:

> In VA Java Professional v2, when I happen to select a Help pull-down
> item, Communicator automatically launches and displays a page entitled
> "VisualAge Help Navigation".  But about a minute later, whether simply
> viewing or actively navigating, the entire screen suddenly goes
> colorless blank and shows the following message:
>
>         NetQuestion
>
>         EHS0410: An error was detected when starting the search service.
>         Stop the service and start again.
>
>         Press enter to continue...
>
> After the Enter, the original Communicator screen reappears and I am
> able to proceed normally.  The error happens only after the first
> Communicator display (so far).  No matter what Help topic I select, this
> sequence is the same.  It happens out of Communicator, but only when
> launched by VA Java.  No damage is apparent and no re-boot seems needed.
>
> Is this a bug or a feature?  Are there any workarounds?
>
> My environment is Warp v4, FP11, Java v1.1.8 build o118-19990910, TCP
> v4.1.
>
> Thanks in advance.

I've seen the problem, but haven't identified the cause yet.

--
Andy Cannon   http://www.sonic.net/~cannon


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From: rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru                          27-Sep-99 08:56:11
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: "Rinat H. Sadretdinow" <rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru>

Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> I've asked in fido7.ru.ida conference. They keep silence yet.
> 
> Thank you.....
>
The IDA author, Ilfak Guilfanov, said the same url for the free IDA like
Pierre Vandevenne did: http://www.simtel.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/disasm
So it's likely the only free version on the net (except cracked ones
of course :)

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From: cwr@cts.com                                       27-Sep-99 09:56:09
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Pierre Vandevenne <pierre@datarescue.com> wrote:
: In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-wwZulyK1IdJn@man-086.dialup.zetnet.co.uk>,
rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:
:>On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 04:16:25, Peter Fitzsimmons <pfitzsim@home.com> 
:>wrote:
:>
:>> There's a neat little binary editor called HED that will do disassembly;
:>> it won't create a *.asm that you can feed into MASM, but it is good for
:>> hacking on stuff.
:>
:>Yes, I found that, and I'm certainly keeping it in mind for a  few 
:>jobs. But right now I need to generate ASM...


: The freeware version, which can be found in the disassembler directory on 
: SIMTEL, runs under DOS but should be able to handle OS/2 programs as well.
It 
: lacks features of the more recent versions ( compiler library
identification, 
: stack variable tracking etc... ) but should be enough to generate decent asm 

: listings (don't forget the result can be improved manually). I don't think 
: this particular version is limited to 64 KB executables (demos of the full 
: products were in the past).

Sideways to the topic, does anyone know how LX executables are compressed?
I need to uncompress them to dis-assemble them...  I've got tools that will
handle LX files, and tools that will dis-assemble x86 code, but I need more
information to put them together.


Thanks - Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru                          27-Sep-99 10:06:14
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 10:29:22
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: "Rinat H. Sadretdinow" <rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru>

Will Rose <cwr@cts.com> wrote:
> Pierre Vandevenne <pierre@datarescue.com> wrote:
> : In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-wwZulyK1IdJn@man-086.dialup.zetnet.co.uk>,
rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:
> :>On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 04:16:25, Peter Fitzsimmons <pfitzsim@home.com> 
> :>wrote:
> :>
> :>> There's a neat little binary editor called HED that will do disassembly;
> :>> it won't create a *.asm that you can feed into MASM, but it is good for
> :>> hacking on stuff.
> :>
> :>Yes, I found that, and I'm certainly keeping it in mind for a  few 
> :>jobs. But right now I need to generate ASM...
> 
> 
> : The freeware version, which can be found in the disassembler directory on 
> : SIMTEL, runs under DOS but should be able to handle OS/2 programs as well. 
It 
> : lacks features of the more recent versions ( compiler library
identification, 
> : stack variable tracking etc... ) but should be enough to generate decent
asm 
> : listings (don't forget the result can be improved manually). I don't think 

> : this particular version is limited to 64 KB executables (demos of the full 

> : products were in the past).
> 
> Sideways to the topic, does anyone know how LX executables are compressed?
> I need to uncompress them to dis-assemble them...  I've got tools that will
> handle LX files, and tools that will dis-assemble x86 code, but I need more
> information to put them together.
> 
I dunno the algorythm, but take LxLite (from hobbes I guess). It can pack
and unpack LX executables. Also it is available in sources, but not the very
late version. It's written in pascal by Andrew Zabolotny and the sources
are available for only version written with free beta of VP. You need source
code only if you intend to understand the packing algorythm. By the way
IDA handles packed LX as well as nonpacked ones.

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From: sbowring+nospam@mpc-data.co.uk                    27-Sep-99 14:15:18
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 15:18:03
Subj: Re: Netlabs statement about the future of OS/2

From: "Simon Bowring" <sbowring+nospam@mpc-data.co.uk>

>In the mean time, they could issue a Client 4.1 media refresh, so people
>could install 4.0 with fresh fixpacks, java updates, etc. in one go.

Absolutely, it's unforgivable that this isn't available as a media
cost only option - it's nearly October 1999 and I believe there 
isn't even a fully Y2K compliant shrink wrap version of the 
OS/2 Client.

Wake up IBM.

Simon Bowring


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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    27-Sep-99 14:47:07
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 15:18:03
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

Adrian Gschwend <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org> writes:
> 
> There is no need to switch to linux, you can run Apache on OS/2 without any
> problems. 

I'd been meaning to install a web server for testing on this machine (I
have Goserve on the other one) so I decided to give Apache a try. However,
it does not go very far. The instructions say:

#   1) Create a directory called apache at the root of a drive and extract
#      the ZIP file into it.
#   2) With this directory as current, run "httpd"
# 
#   You should then be able to access the server which will show the test
#      page and allow you to read the manual with your browser. 

All I get however is:

[d:\apache]httpd.exe
D:\APACHE\HTTPD.EXE: cannot determine local host name.
Use the ServerName directive to set it manually.

There is no "ServerName" that I can see in the readme; is that the same as
the config.sys HOSTNAME= (which is set anyway)?

Pierre
-- 
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: rgehrig@primenet.com                              27-Sep-99 08:23:01
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 15:18:03
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com>

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:46:35 GMT, Darin McBride wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:08:33 -0400 (EDT), Robert Gehrig wrote:
>
>>I need to try out the netdata access to DB2.
>>
>>I have apache 1.3.9 on one machine and DB2 on another.
>>
>>What do I need to do to get netdata working.
>
>I've not used Net.Data.  :-(  Does Net.Data have a client version?  You'll
>definitely need to have that installed on the machine with Apache on it.  (I
>can't see how Net.Data couldn't have a client version - after all, it's based
>on DB2 which has server/client products.)
>
>What are the OS's?  OS/2 for both?
>---
>Disclaimer: unless explicitly mentioned otherwise, I do not speak
>for the company I work for.
>
>
>
Yes, OS/2 Warp Server Advanced SMP on both machines



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From: nospam_ktk@netlabs.org                            27-Sep-99 17:02:29
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:17
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: "Adrian Gschwend" <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org>

On 26 Sep 1999 21:54:08 GMT, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

>What do you recommend for a "teach yourself" book? I know Perl and Rexx,
>and HTML of course.

The best way is to go to http://www.php3.net and download the docu.
Unfortunately you can't really use it and because of this you should check
other examples to learn PHP3. There should be some links at php3.net to other
pages with PHP3 tutorials. I don't know a PHP3 book until now.

cu

Adrian


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From: nospam_ktk@netlabs.org                            27-Sep-99 17:03:21
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:18
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: "Adrian Gschwend" <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org>

On 27 Sep 1999 14:47:14 GMT, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

>[d:\apache]httpd.exe
>D:\APACHE\HTTPD.EXE: cannot determine local host name.
>Use the ServerName directive to set it manually.
>
>There is no "ServerName" that I can see in the readme; is that the same as
>the config.sys HOSTNAME= (which is set anyway)?

Hmm, I'm not in front of my machine but I think the best thing is to open a
new tread for this question.

You are right, the configuration of apache sucks!

cu

Adrian


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From: rgehrig@primenet.com                              27-Sep-99 08:26:25
  To: All                                               27-Sep-99 16:32:18
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com>

On 27 Sep 1999 14:47:14 GMT, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

>Adrian Gschwend <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org> writes:
>> 
>> There is no need to switch to linux, you can run Apache on OS/2 without any
>> problems. 
>
>I'd been meaning to install a web server for testing on this machine (I
>have Goserve on the other one) so I decided to give Apache a try. However,
>it does not go very far. The instructions say:
>
>#   1) Create a directory called apache at the root of a drive and extract
>#      the ZIP file into it.
>#   2) With this directory as current, run "httpd"
># 
>#   You should then be able to access the server which will show the test
>#      page and allow you to read the manual with your browser. 
>
>All I get however is:
>
>[d:\apache]httpd.exe
>D:\APACHE\HTTPD.EXE: cannot determine local host name.
>Use the ServerName directive to set it manually.
>
>There is no "ServerName" that I can see in the readme; is that the same as
>the config.sys HOSTNAME= (which is set anyway)?
>
>Pierre
>-- 
>Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
>                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
>The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
>   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com
Pierre

Change to the conf dir and edit the httpd.conf file.

You will find a line that has ServerName at the beginning.

Put your name here (e.g. www.home.org)

and save it. then cd .. to the apache dir.
 

Also make sure you have an entry in the hosts file that has the IP address of
the machine and www.home.org in it.

e.g.  192.168.0.10     www.home.org


Change the apporpriate stuff to match your setup.

Assuming that this setup is not connected to the internet.

Now run httpd.

Hope this helps




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From: zimmerli@nni.com                                  27-Sep-99 21:33:20
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: EDM/2 Volume 7, Issue 5 is out

From: zimmerli@nni.com

EDM/2 Volume 7, Issue 5 is out: please see

http://www.edm2.com/0705/index.html

.. and don't miss the "From the Editor" column! ;-)

Regards,
David Zimmerli
davez_at_nni_dot_com

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From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au                    28-Sep-99 02:49:03
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)

Pierre Jelenc <rcpj@panix.com> wrote:
>Adrian Gschwend <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org> writes:
>> 
>> There is no need to switch to linux, you can run Apache on OS/2 without any
>> problems. 
>
>I'd been meaning to install a web server for testing on this machine (I
>have Goserve on the other one) so I decided to give Apache a try.

If you're used to Goserve, you'll probably never be satisfied with
those impossible-to-configure unix-style servers.

I switched from Goserve to Web/2, and I've never regretted it.  If
Web/2 suddenly disappeared, I'd go back to Goserve.  Once you've used
OS/2 native software, everything else looks big, ugly, and slow.

-- 
Peter Moylan                                         peter@ee.newcastle.edu.au
See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

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From: nospamless@home.com                               28-Sep-99 03:33:17
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: APACHE HELP!

From: "gH" <nospamless@home.com>

Since here are so many Apache-OS/2 users, I thought it might be a good idea
to ask my question here...

Anyone know how to MAKE Apache to allow me to use POST in my HTML code? I
could not find anything in the httpd.conf that does it... I've really
tried... HELP!!!


Thanks.


-- 
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     Owner of PC End User Web Site       http://www.pcenduser.com/

      Java 1.1.7 - MR/2 ICE REG#:10510 - OS/2 T-Warp Connect 4.0
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From: pfitzsim@home.com                                 28-Sep-99 04:23:29
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 04:30:21
Subj: OS/2 warp server for e-business (ie: warp 4.5) and Watcom 11b

From: Peter Fitzsimmons <pfitzsim@home.com>

Anyone else having trouble with the debugger?  It traps at startup on
all but the simplest "hello world" programs.

-- 
Peter Fitzsimmons,      Toronto Canada.
email:pfitz@ican.net    Voice: 905-858-3222

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From: rgehrig@primenet.com                              28-Sep-99 00:00:26
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 05:15:29
Subj: Apache 1.3.9 and mSQL under OS/2

From: "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com>

Anyone out there have Apache and mSQL 2.0.11 working under OS/2.

My setup is as follows:

Warp Server Advanced SMP fixpak 41 plus MPTS updates on the WarpUp CD.

mSQL 2.0.11 (located in dir /msql2)

Apache 1.3.9 (located in dir /apache)

Web_Pages_Root  \test_site

cgi-bin                          \apache\cgi-bin

msql refering web pages     \msql2\www

When I load a page that goes to get data from mSQL and present it I get an
Internal Error

Anyone else tried this out there and gotten it to work.


I have also treied the Xitami Web Server and it works, but Apache 1.3.9
doesn't.

Did something change in the way 1.3.9 handles cgi.

Thanks



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From: frank.vandael@n_o.s_p_a_m.philip...               28-Sep-99 09:37:09
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 05:15:29
Subj: How can I change online fontsize in help windows

Message sender: frank.vandael@n_o.s_p_a_m.philips.com

From: Frank Vandael <frank.vandael@n_o.s_p_a_m.philips.com>

Hello,

currently I'm doing a project in which I have to switch font sizes
depending on the screen resolution used.  To do this at run-time, the
windows are enlarged using an algorithm (updating coordinates/sizes and
changing font size).  At this moment I have a problem doing this for the
help windows.  

Is there someone who can give me some hints to solve next questions:

1. How can I change the fontsize of the help index window?
2. Is there a way to change the font size of the windows itself ?
3. The last point I'm struggling with is modifying the size (height)
   of the titlebar of the 'inner' help window (I can change the font
   size).

Thanks in advance

Frank

P.S. When possible, send replies to the newsgroup 
comp.os.os2.programmer.misc

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From: nospam_ktk@netlabs.org                            28-Sep-99 12:22:22
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 12:24:02
Subj: Re: EDM/2 Volume 7, Issue 5 is out

From: "Adrian Gschwend" <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org>

On 27 Sep 1999 21:33:41 -0500, zimmerli@nni.com wrote:

>EDM/2 Volume 7, Issue 5 is out: please see

Yes, great!

Welcome back :)

cu

Adrian



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From: cwr@cts.com                                       28-Sep-99 13:14:08
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:26
Subj: Re: Disassembler?

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Rinat H. Sadretdinow <rhs_athome@public.mtu.ru> wrote:
: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com> wrote:
[...]
:> Sideways to the topic, does anyone know how LX executables are compressed?
:> I need to uncompress them to dis-assemble them...  I've got tools that will
:> handle LX files, and tools that will dis-assemble x86 code, but I need more
:> information to put them together.
:> 
: I dunno the algorythm, but take LxLite (from hobbes I guess). It can pack
: and unpack LX executables. Also it is available in sources, but not the very
: late version. It's written in pascal by Andrew Zabolotny and the sources
: are available for only version written with free beta of VP. You need source
: code only if you intend to understand the packing algorythm. By the way
: IDA handles packed LX as well as nonpacked ones.

Thanks, I'll start digging.

Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    28-Sep-99 15:47:22
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:27
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

Peter Moylan <peter@ee.newcastle.edu.au> writes:
> 
> If you're used to Goserve, you'll probably never be satisfied with
> those impossible-to-configure unix-style servers.
> 
> I switched from Goserve to Web/2, and I've never regretted it.  If
> Web/2 suddenly disappeared, I'd go back to Goserve.  Once you've used
> OS/2 native software, everything else looks big, ugly, and slow.

I fully agree, but the reason to play with Apache is that I'm in charge of
several sites that run Apache on Unix platforms and I want to learn more.
I figure that it also would make testing of CGI easier.

Pierre
-- 
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    28-Sep-99 15:53:18
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 14:36:27
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

Robert Gehrig <rgehrig@primenet.com> writes:
> 
> Change to the conf dir and edit the httpd.conf file.
> You will find a line that has ServerName at the beginning.
> Put your name here (e.g. www.home.org)
> and save it. then cd .. to the apache dir.
> 
> Also make sure you have an entry in the hosts file that has the IP address
of
> the machine and www.home.org in it.
> 
> e.g.  192.168.0.10     www.home.org

That does not work. I get the same error message.

However if I put the IP address instead of the name in ServerName it
works, after a fashion: I use the loopback address 127.0.0.1 which seems
to kill dead my PPP (static) IP.

Is it not possible to have a PPP connection and the loopback active at the
same time?

Pierre
-- 
Pierre Jelenc                  | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out!
                               |  Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out!
The New York City Beer Guide   |      RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out!
   http://www.nycbeer.org      | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com

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From: solution@stiscan.com                              28-Sep-99 16:23:15
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 16:15:09
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: solution@stiscan.com (Leon D. Zetekoff)

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:42:17, "Darin McBride" 
<dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org> wrote:

Hi There...

> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:50:12 GMT, croed@dimark.ca wrote:
> 
> >I am looking at developing web access to databases, but I don't want
> >to abandon OS/2 yet. It looks to me like Domino and the Go webserver 
> >are both out of the running, because they have no future. 
> >Does anyone have any experience using databases with Apache for OS/2?
> >What will I need to get started?  Is it realistic to think that I could put 

> >something together using Apache and some databases and tools 
> >ported from Unix to OS/2 or do I need to switch to Linux now?
> 
> I don't see why you can't use Apache for OS/2...  I use it here, and I've
got
> mostly Perl CGI scripts running.  I have used REXX, but that doesn't really
> go too far without writing a bunch of modules to do the CGI::* functions
from
> Perl.  Unfortunately, DB2 for OS/2 doesn't seem to ship with Perl support
> directly.  That said, you *can* access DB2's REXX interface, with a little
> bit of effort.  I know I've done this type of thing (accessing REXX from
> inside Perl), but can't seem to find my sample code.

DB2 UDB ships with Net.Data which allows you to access DB2 from 
WebServers. I've got it working
with LGW on our site; pretty slick stuff.

Take care, Leon 

==================================================================

"We create solutions..."

Leon D. Zetekoff, N.C.E.     Voice:      561-241-3210
Product Manager              FAX:        561-997-6518
Solution Technology          E-mail:     solution@stiscan.com
1101 South Rogers Circle     WWW:        http://www.stiscan.com
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From: rgehrig@primenet.com                              28-Sep-99 09:31:25
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 16:15:09
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com>

On 28 Sep 1999 15:53:36 GMT, Pierre Jelenc wrote:

<snip>
>That does not work. I get the same error message.
>
>However if I put the IP address instead of the name in ServerName it
>works, after a fashion: I use the loopback address 127.0.0.1 which seems
>to kill dead my PPP (static) IP.
>
>Is it not possible to have a PPP connection and the loopback active at the
>same time?

It has been awhile since I have used a dial up connection.

Do you have a localhost entry in your hosts file.

e.g.  127.0.0.1    localhost

If so you should be able to put localhost in the ServerName part of
httpd.conf




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From: solution@stiscan.com                              28-Sep-99 16:21:19
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 16:15:09
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: solution@stiscan.com (Leon D. Zetekoff)

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:50:27, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) 
wrote:

HI Esther et al...

> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:14:49, Leonardo <lpino@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
> 
> | I think this should be out pretty soon since WebSphere 3.0 and Visual Age
Java
> | 3.0 are almost out of the door.
> 
> WebSphere 3.0 is already shipping, here in the U.S. Are you saying 
> that there will be an OS/2 version Real Soon Now? (I was under the 
> impression that there wasn't, and I'd be happy to be mistaken.)

Yeah but that is still just the server. There are no WebSphere OS/2 
applications just Windoze (as far as I know at that shipped with WSeb.

Take care Leon 


==================================================================

"We create solutions..."

Leon D. Zetekoff, N.C.E.     Voice:      561-241-3210
Product Manager              FAX:        561-997-6518
Solution Technology          E-mail:     solution@stiscan.com
1101 South Rogers Circle     WWW:        http://www.stiscan.com
Suite 14                     NNTP:       news://news.stiscan.com
Boca Raton, FL 33487

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From: rgehrig@primenet.com                              28-Sep-99 09:33:23
  To: All                                               28-Sep-99 16:15:09
Subj: Re: Apache and OS/2: is it realistic

From: "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com>

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:23:30 GMT, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote:

<snip>

>DB2 UDB ships with Net.Data which allows you to access DB2 from 
>WebServers. I've got it working
>with LGW on our site; pretty slick stuff.
>
>Take care, Leon 
<snip>

Leon

What is your setup.

I want to try this as well, but my Webserver is on one machine and the DB/2
Server is on another.

and I am not sure what exactly I have to install on each machine.

Both machines are running Warp Server Advanced SMP.

Thanks



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From: blaschke@us.ibm.com                               30-Sep-99 12:36:15
  To: All                                               30-Sep-99 21:28:07
Subj: Re: Session Manager, what the heck is it doing?

From: Dave Blaschke <blaschke@us.ibm.com>


doug@hotrocks.msfc.nasa.gov wrote:

> Can someone please tell me the significance of the message:
>
> "RC:457 The Session Manager cannot start the process in the foreground.
> It will be started in the background."

Looks to me like the only ways an application can get this error are:1) A
popup is in progress during the DosStartSession call.
2) The DosStartSession requester is not a member of the session currently in
the foreground.

>
>
> I get this occassionally (no apparent pattern) from a rexx command that
> starts another executable in the background.
>
> 'start "Server for 'in '" /n /b /min' ELASIIDatabaseServer.exe' in
>
> The variable 'in' is a file name.
>
> I do not understand why this happens sometimes and not others.  Nor do I
> understand why a task that is being started in the background, the /b
> switch, should generate this return code.
>
> Maybe I don't understand what Session Manager is actually doing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug Rickman



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  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 17:06:17
Subj: PERSO!!!!!!!!!!

From: "coltail" <coltail@multimania.com>

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        01-Oct-99 20:28:11
  To: All                                               01-Oct-99 20:01:21
Subj: IBM PACKed files

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

Is there any way to get an *extended* view of archives created with 
IBM PACK program?

I am aware of UNPACK /SHOW, but this does not provide date or size 
information...  :-(

Are there any undocumented flags available?

--
John

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