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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      10-Sep-99 19:13:29
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:25
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer
<bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> writes:

>Oh, I got the same treatment, but I was more persistent. I finally got
>through to a live human being. Here in a nutshell is the gist of the
>conversation:
>
>One must buy the "Enterprise" CD which contains NAV for OS/2 as well as
>for NT, Win95, Win98, DOS, MAC, and some others. Plus one must also buy
>site licenses for a MINIMUM of 10 users. One can only buy those items from
>a reseller. A reseller must contact a "Symantec Specialist" at Ingram to
>get the part number and order the software and license. THEN, and ONLY
>then will Symantec ship the product to Ingram which in turn will ship to
>the reseller.

Keep trying.  Symantec sent me the "Enterprise" CD for free 
after I provided proof of ownership for IBMAV; they didn't even
charge me for shipping so I know it is possible.

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: anon@anonymous.co.uk                              10-Sep-99 22:26:22
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:25
Subj: Re: Req: Old software Lotus 123G v2.0 -> v2.1 update

From: anon@anonymous.co.uk (Steve)

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:52:42 GMT, anon@anonymous.co.uk (Steve) wrote:

Tried  Lotus US Customer Care links page later on
this evening and finally managed to send them a message.

Here's hoping.

Steve

PS. Could still use that path though if you remember it  :)

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From: milindr@bellsouth.net                             10-Sep-99 23:31:09
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:44:26, Falko Tesch <falko.tesch@bigfoot.com> 
wrote:

> Am 10.09.99, 10:23:15, schrieb hep@nospam.thanks zum Thema Netscape 
> Fonts:
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> 
> > I'm using the latest Netcape 4.61 release, but the default fonts
> > (1024x768 resolution) are not brilliant. Does any body have any
> > suggestions for a more readable format ?
> 
> Hi Howard,
> Yepp!
> Just install FreeType 1.0 (http://www.freetype.org) and use Arial as 
> your Defaultfont. Looks much, much, much better here (using NN 4.04).

I had the same problem and tried out the same solution, but Arial.8 
just doesn't look as good as Helv.8.  Also, some pages like 
http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml look absolutely terrible with 
Arial.8

Arial at any font size looks bad.   

Did I mess up my installation of FreeType?  I tried installing twice. 
No difference.  Fonts in Communicator on OS/2 are horrible.  How can I
confirm that I really have FreeType installed?

Regards
Milind

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From: Larry.Snider@ibm.net                              10-Sep-99 19:38:16
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: MR/2 ICE

From: "Larry Snider" <Larry.Snider@ibm.net>

In <37d8fcc6$6$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, on 09/10/99 
   at 08:42 AM, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> said:

=>On <37d841e3$4$yneel.favqre$mr2ice@news3.ibm.net>, on 09/09/99 at 07:22
=>PM,
=>   "Larry Snider" <Larry.Snider@ibm.net> said:


=>> =>Would someone who doesn't have Bob in their killfile please explain to
=>> =>him how to spamproof his address without wasting Internet bandwidth?  
=>> =>For someone who apparently can't leave other people's headers alone, 
=>> =>you'd think he'd try to make sure that his own didn't make him look 
=>> =>like some novice. 

=>> It's quite easy really.  All you have to do is place the spam proofing
=>> on the domain name side of e-mail address (ie., on the right of the @). 
=>> This will keep spam from even reaching the mail server.

=>I am well aware of how other choose to do it. I prefer my way.

Ok.  Just a suggestion.  This method just decreases the amount of traffic
your server receives => better connection quality, faster speeds, etc.

Have a good day!

-- 
Larry Snider - Portsmouth, RI
Internet: Larry.Snider@ibm.net
FidoNet: 1:109/921.52

"That OS/2 Feller"

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        11-Sep-99 00:02:08
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: [VIM] Looking for gvim binaries for OS/2

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:18:39, davek@clark.net (David Kunz) wrote:

> : Vim has a very nice port to OS/2, however I can only find the 
> : console-mode version.  Is there a 5.x port of the GUI version 
> : (gvim) for OS/2 anywhere?                                           
> 
> : 'twould make my cutting & pasting a fair bit easier.                
> 
> I couldn't find it so I opted for elvis -- another enhanced vi port
> that's available for linux, sun, and OS/2 (the systems that I use) as
> well as others...

I'll think about it, but I've gotten so used to vim...

Seeing as how popular vim is, it seems odd that nobody would have
ported the gui version to OS/2 PM.

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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   11-Sep-99 00:20:07
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <yNUQIMEW4Brk-pn2-vPGzdZ0ZmzIu@adsl-79-140-63.atl.bellsouth.net> -
milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:31:19 GMT writes:
:>
:>Did I mess up my installation of FreeType?  I tried installing twice. 
:>No difference.  Fonts in Communicator on OS/2 are horrible.  How can I
:>confirm that I really have FreeType installed?
:>
:>Regards
:>Milind


Use this Rexx file called query.cmd:

/* */
call RxFuncAdd "SysLoadFuncs", "RexxUtil", "SysLoadFuncs"
call SysLoadFuncs

app = "PM_Font_Drivers"
key = "TRUETYPE"

val = SysIni('USER', app, key)

if val = "ERROR:" then val = "none"
/* strip the terminating NULL character */
else val = substr(val, 1, pos(d2c(0), val) - 1)

say 'The current TrueType driver is ' || val
pause


When I run it  query.cmd gives me:
  
   The current TrueType driver is \OS2\DLL\FREETYPE.DLL


Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        11-Sep-99 00:26:29
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: Mousedriver for mouse w. Mousewheel

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:51:37, areese@bestnetpc.com (A. Willard Reese) wrote:

> :>Is there an OS/2 mouse driver for some
> :>brand mouse with mousewheel ? Preferable Logitech.
> :>
> 	Yes.  I have a logitech wheel mouse that I've had working in OS2 for
> almost a year now.  As I recall, there is am IBM device driver for the
> "ScrollPoint" or the "Logitech Mouseman+" mouse. The compressed file
> is SCROLLMS.EXE. I'm not sure where I got the file but it was on one
> of the IBM driver sites.

Be cautioned, though... last I checked, this only worked for PS/2 mice.
The rest of us are SOL.  

Anyone know if IBM is planning to fix (or even has fixed already :)?)
this strange limitation?

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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: !2020hindsight@usa.net                            10-Sep-99 21:53:17
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: quicken 99

From: !2020hindsight@usa.net (Bill Clark)

Will Quicken run under winos2?

TIA

-bc-
 
User Friendly Software:
  That which makes friends among those trying to use it
	

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From: nolospamoawmg@yesic.com                           10-Sep-99 22:30:18
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Object Desktop 2 - Hacking the LNF

From: "andrew g" <nolospamoawmg@yesic.com>

The Young Person's Guide to Hacking the LNF:

Everybody knows and it's documented in the Stardock
Look 'n Feel kit for OS/2 that you can create new
bitmap looks for your titlebars using VisualAge C++,
and I gave Kris Kwilas the makefile for CSET++ 2.1,
so even if you have an old compiler you can still
change your "look".

I may be the only OD2 user to have made an LNF, judging
by the apathy I see around me and on Stardock's part. I
didn't mind using the C Compiler, but I got tired of
waiting for the promised API to turn off those darned
lines on the title bars!

If you just want to change your titlebar bitmaps,
and don't want the annoying MacIntosh-like lines on 
your titlebars, you can use the ResMgr package available
from Hobbes, to gut the distributed Windows 95 LNF, and
remake it into something palatable. The Resource Manager
package contains a couple of utilities you will need to
do this, and along with the OS/2 resource compiler and
the icon editor, you're ready to roll your own title
bars.

Here's what I did:

copy your OBJDWN95.LNF from the \objdesk directory
to an empty \tmp directory. Rename OBJDWN95.LNF 
OBJDWN95.DLL, and use the resource decompiler to 
extract the bitmaps. Like this:

[c:\tmp]rdc OBJDWN95.DLL

There should be 66 buttons, and here they are, with
descriptions. If you want to distribute your LNF,
then you ought to alter all of them using OS/2
iconedit.exe. But if you know which ones your computer
uses, then just alter the ones you need for your
personal machine if you don't want to share your
customizations with others. For instance, on my
ThinkPad at 800x600, OS/2 uses only the 18x18
titlebar bitmaps, so they're the only ones I ever
change.

(note that there's no difference between the
hide and minimize bitmaps in the Windows 95
LNF as published).

 Size		 eas    filename	 purpose
---------------------------------------------
 290           0  res02514.bmp   18maximize_dn
 290           0  res02515.bmp   18restore__up
 290           0  res02789.bmp   18rollup___up
 218           0  res03064.bmp   scroll button
1322           0  res03339.bmp   22close____up
 194           0  res05864.bmp   scroll button
 290           0  res08939.bmp   18minimize_dn
 290           0  res09214.bmp   18close____up
 218           0  res09489.bmp   scroll button
1322           0  res09764.bmp   22minimize_up
 194           0  res12289.bmp   scroll button
 290           0  res15364.bmp   system menu
 170           0  res15639.bmp   scroll button
 290           0  res18714.bmp   18minimize_dn
 242           0  res19264.bmp   scroll button
 170           0  res22064.bmp   scroll button
 314           0  res22339.bmp   20hide_____up
 290           0  res25139.bmp   18minimize_up
 170           0  res28489.bmp   scroll button
 314           0  res28764.bmp   20maximize_up
1322           0  res29039.bmp   system menu
 290           0  res31839.bmp   18rollup___dn
 314           0  res35464.bmp   20rollup___dn
 290           0  res38264.bmp   18close____dn
 218           0  res38539.bmp   scroll button
1322           0  res38814.bmp   22minimize_dn
 194           0  res41339.bmp   scroll button
 314           0  res41889.bmp   20close____dn
 290           0  res44414.bmp   18minimize_up
 218           0  res44964.bmp   scroll button
1322           0  res45239.bmp   22restore__dn
 242           0  res48314.bmp   scroll button
 242           0  res48315.bmp   scroll button
 170           0  res51114.bmp   scroll button
 314           0  res51389.bmp   20minimize_up
1322           0  res51664.bmp   22maximize_dn
1322           0  res55014.bmp   22rollup___dn
 290           0  res57264.bmp   system menu
1322           0  res58089.bmp   22minimize_up
1322           0  res58090.bmp   22minimize_dn
 290           0  res60614.bmp   18restore__dn
 314           0  res60889.bmp   system menu
 242           0  res61164.bmp   scroll button
 218           0  res67589.bmp   scroll button
1322           0  res67864.bmp   22close____dn
 194           0  res70389.bmp   scroll button
 314           0  res70939.bmp   20rollup___up
 290           0  res73464.bmp   18maximize_up
 314           0  res77364.bmp   20close____up
 170           0  res80164.bmp   scroll button
 314           0  res80439.bmp   20hide_____dn
1322           0  res80714.bmp   22restore__up
 194           0  res83239.bmp   scroll button
 314           0  res86864.bmp   20hide_____dn
1322           0  res87139.bmp   22maximize_up
 314           0  res89939.bmp   20minimize_up
 242           0  res90214.bmp   scroll button
 242           0  res90215.bmp   scroll button
1322           0  res90489.bmp   22rollup___up
 170           0  res93014.bmp   scroll button
 314           0  res93289.bmp   20maximize_dn
 314           0  res96364.bmp   system menu
 218           0  res96639.bmp   scroll button
 194           0  res99439.bmp   scroll button
 314           0  res99714.bmp   20minimize_dn
1322           0  res99989.bmp   system menu
       66 file(s)      31908 bytes used

Now you edit the titlebar buttons you want to change,
saving them with the same filename they had before.

I use a batchfile to call iconedit.exe, like this:
REM -------------------------
REM ED.CMD
iconedit res02514.bmp
REM   18maximize_dn   
iconedit res02515.bmp
REM   18restore__up  
iconedit res02789.bmp
REM   18rollup___up  
iconedit res08939.bmp  
rem  18minimize_dn  
iconedit  res09214.bmp 
rem    18close____up  
iconedit  res18714.bmp 
rem    18minimize_dn  
iconedit  res25139.bmp 
rem    18minimize_up  
iconedit  res31839.bmp 
rem    18rollup___dn  
iconedit  res38264.bmp 
rem    18close____dn  
iconedit  res44414.bmp 
rem    18minimize_up  
iconedit  res60614.bmp 
rem    18restore__dn  
iconedit  res73464.bmp 
rem    18maximize_up  
REM --------------------------

After you've made the adjustments to the bitmaps,
and saved them all with their old names, you're
ready to use rc.exe to make your new LNF.

In the same \tmp directory, run RC.exe like this:

[c:\tmp]rc OBJDWN95.RC2 OBJDWN95.DLL

It will grind and mash all those nice bitmaps overtop
the ugly old Windows lookalikes.  Now you copy the
new OBJDWN95.DLL to your \objdesk directory, renaming
it to OBJDWN95.LNF.

[c:\tmp]copy OBJDWN95.DLL \objdesk\OBJDWN95.LNF

Open up your Master Setup in your Object Desktop folder,
and click the Window Controls tab.  Scroll down the list
of available LNF's to the one that says Windows 95.

Select it, and watch your new creation become the titlebar
icons on all your windows. You have successfully hacked
Object Desktop 2, and eradicated the cursed Look 'n Feel
of Windows 95. You are now a local hero.

Congratulations.








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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                11-Sep-99 03:08:27
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <yNUQIMEW4Brk-pn2-vPGzdZ0ZmzIu@adsl-79-140-63.atl.bellsouth.net>,
milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao) writes:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:44:26, Falko Tesch <falko.tesch@bigfoot.com> 
>wrote:
>
>> Am 10.09.99, 10:23:15, schrieb hep@nospam.thanks zum Thema Netscape 
>> Fonts:
>> 
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> 
>> > I'm using the latest Netcape 4.61 release, but the default fonts
>> > (1024x768 resolution) are not brilliant. Does any body have any
>> > suggestions for a more readable format ?
>> 
>> Hi Howard,
>> Yepp!
>> Just install FreeType 1.0 (http://www.freetype.org) and use Arial as 
>> your Defaultfont. Looks much, much, much better here (using NN 4.04).
>
>I had the same problem and tried out the same solution, but Arial.8 
>just doesn't look as good as Helv.8.  Also, some pages like 
>http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml look absolutely terrible with 
>Arial.8
>
>Arial at any font size looks bad.   
>
>Did I mess up my installation of FreeType?  I tried installing twice. 
>No difference.  Fonts in Communicator on OS/2 are horrible.  How can I
>confirm that I really have FreeType installed?

   I really like my fonts in Communicator 4.61.  They are just
as good as, if not better than, the Window's ones.

   What I use is 8. Helv for the proportional font, and 6.
System VIO for the fixed font.  I have also been happy with
Swiss for a proportional font, but in general, Helv is the best
and most legible screen font.


baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  10-Sep-99 21:10:06
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: Post Road Mailer and FP11 ...lost folders...still

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

I can't quite remember what all I put in it, and I am in the process of
updating it, but go to Hobbes and find jsmutils.zip.

dboultr@spamfree.erols.com wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:53:29, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)
> wrote:
> 
> > Use MR2's HELP pulldown to quickly jump to the Home Page via a brower,
then
> > drill to the bottom of the page for a listing of very useful links. That's
> > where I found this.
> 
> No, no, no, no!  I already have that one!  and used it! <grin>
> 
> I want to convert from PRM to J-Street Mailer!
> 
> Doug Boulter
> 
> To reply by e-mail, remove the obvious spam traps from the address

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: askbill*AT*ibm.net                                11-Sep-99 11:13:17
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: OS/2 User "Enterprise" - Was "IBM Anti Virus"

From: askbill*AT*ibm.net

Fellow-travelers,

-  methinks there is the germ here of an idea sound enough to save each of
us enough money to become self-sustaining:
 
In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-kSgGZJizkSJo@localhost>, on 09/10/99 
   at 08:28 PM, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:00:49, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> 
>wrote:

>> The second solution would be for a group of users, SOHO's, etc. to form a
>> non-profit corporation, pool our money, and buy one copy of the software
>> and the requisite licenses. This is afterall an "enterprise" CD with
>> server versions, etc. as well as workstation versions. I was informed that
>> the user licenses were not based on a physical site, but on the total
>> number of licenses an enterprise wanted for its total number of
>> workstations, servers, etc.  they wished to protect.
>>  
>> This would reduce the cost of each copy to around $75 per copy. The site
>> license is $39. The cost of copying the CD and shipping one each would
>> raise the end user price to $75 or so after adding the distributed cost of
>> forming a non-profit company, opening a bank account, etc.
>> 

I think this is a damn good idea, and certainly the most polite message
Bob has posted this week!

>I support whatever you think is best. 

>I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an 
>"ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the  "company"),
>we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences  (should be even
>cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to  set up a site with
>the original disk, available on a FTP server  (password protected, so you
>need to pay your bucks to become a part of the "enterprise"). I suspect
>that there would be some legal thing to  prevent that, but it might be
>worth investigating.

It need not be limited to IBMAV.  Not by a long shot!

Are not one or more of the existing OS/2 user group / clubs already large
enough and well-organized enough to serve as a nucleus for such a venture?

>Perhaps BMT micro,  or IB would take that on (IB
>already sells site licenses etc.).

Personally, I would not want to see either of these houses lose  scarce
OS/2 business to a non-profit, nor would handling money or  charge-cards
be less than a serious pain for a non-profit organization. Long-term they
need to stay healthy for the benefit of us all.

But how about a "hybrid"?  The "enterprise" core being either an 
expansion of an existing OS/2 user-group, or a new purpose-built one, that
in turn solicited volume-discounts on an open-bid basis? The "winning"
vendor on each case then taking direct orders  against a look-up table of
members-in-good-standing so that the "club" did not have to handle charge
cards, etc. for individual purchases.

The USA, for one, has had a long (and, truthfully, mixed) history of
"shoppers clubs", etc.  - but those of us who remain OS/2  users may be  a
bit more motivated than most - especially as the "product" can be  made
easily available over the 'net.

> After  all, even IBM wouldn't buy more
>than one copy of the CD (well, they  might, but they shouldn't), and
>would just make it available on their  intranet for all who need it.

FWIW, IBM probably retained perpetual rights for internal use......

>It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
>all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large 
>"enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any 
>"enterprise". (A COMMON share, gets you access to NAV, a PREFERED  share
>gets you access to OS/2, or something like that). All you would  need is
>a set of install disks that would get you connected to the  internet, and
>do a CID install of OS/2.

Now you are talking!  Given even a 10% sign-up of OS/2 users, the "group"
would be larger than many of IBM's current clients.  OTOH - it would
probably *spend* less (lacking RS-6000, AS-400, on-site support contracts,
etc.)

We SO/2 users are a frugal lot.

Countering that - many of the members are likely to be themselves
consultants, IS/IT professionals, or company executives with a bit of
peripheral clout.  One would expect a buyers group to have a bit more
clout with IBM than a pure users group, simply because money is involved -
IBM's internal programming language of choice.

>I am sure that the technical details can be worked out (the legal 
>details might be more difficult). There are a LOT of very knowledgable
>people in the OS/2 community. (Then again, why limit this to just the 
>OS/2 community, the more site licences we can get, the lower the cost 
>should be, and the software is already on the CD).

The legal details are not difficult.  There is a lot of precedence.

A not-for-profit coop or confederation of users/consultants/developers
might also be seen as having a more legitimate legal and business
rationale for existence than a pure buyers club.  Goals might be simply to
further the spread and development of OS/2.  Again - there are clubs with
a history who have the right sort of articles of incorporation, etc.
already up and running. Clone, anyone?

For our part, we are not based in the US, but could put a VAT-registered
UK / EC  limited corporation OR a Hong Kong counterpart, at the service of
such an enterprise in about one week, and cheaply so.

Others, I am sure can do the same or better in the U.S.

>A great name for the company, would be "The Starship Enterprise", but  I
>am sure that there would be legal problems with that <g>.

How about "The Enterprise Ship Star"?  - presuming very fast downloads!

>Perhaps. we can use IBM's, and Symantec's, lack of cooperation to nail
>them to the wall <g>...

- Don't care about **them** being nailed to a wall. Life is too short,
etc.

- **Do**  care about having __our backs to a wall__ if the decline in
software availability continues!

Most of what we do with OS/2 here simply CANNOT be done at all with NT,
and is painful with *NIX.

>******************************
>From the PC of Doug Bissett
>doug.bissett at ibm.net
>The " at " must be changed to "@"
>******************************

Thanks, Doug and Bob!

Bill Hacker
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
askbill@ibm.net
William B. Hacker, III
Conducive Group (Asia) Limited    - Hong Kong
Conducive Logistics (EU) Limited   - London
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From: bwardell@mw.mediaone.net                          11-Sep-99 04:23:11
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: Object Desktop 2 - Hacking the LNF

From: "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@mw.mediaone.net>

Cool!  Thanks for posting that, Andrew.

Brad
--
Brad Wardell
Stardock - http://www.stardock.com

>


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From: rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de                      11-Sep-99 08:20:13
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:27
Subj: Re: Object Desktop 2 - Hacking the LNF

From: "Robert Lalla" <rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de>

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:30:36 -0400 (EDT), andrew g wrote:

>I may be the only OD2 user to have made an LNF, judging
>by the apathy I see around me and on Stardock's part. I

Once when OD2-fp1 came out I installed it.
But then is was faced to frequent crashes of WPS.
So I reinstalled ODpro1.5.

--
RL




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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 11-Sep-99 01:25:07
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 10:18:22
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)
spake unto us, saying:

>I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an 
>"ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the 
>"company"), we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences 
>(should be even cheaper than $80).

Hmmm...  This is a very interesting idea.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                 Dyslexic atheists don't believe in Dog.

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From: bts@iaehv.nl                                      11-Sep-99 11:43:16
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 10:18:23
Subj: Re: Mousedriver for mouse w. Mousewheel: not Working

From: "Martin Bartelds" <bts@iaehv.nl>

Oke, found and installed the SCROLLMS.EXE.

However: It's not working :-(

Symptomes:
- Install didn't copy the language dll. Did that manually,
  now the driver loads without an error and the setup-icon
  can be run.
- The mouse pointer moves and clicks.
- The speed and other settings can be changed with the 
  setup-icon.
- Changing the mousewheel settings doesn't give any 
  other behaviour.
- No reaction to the mouse-wheel.
- Some jumpy mouspointer reaction to the "press the 
  mouse wheel" action.


Environment:
- Logitech cordless wheel mouse (brand new) on PS/2 mouse port
- HW: asus P5A/K6-2/333, 128 Mb ram, G200 
- W4+fp9
- Mouse trail enabled

Note: The new mouse reacts the same as the previous Mouseman
  Cordless mouse (M-RC33), both on the old driver.

What's wrong ?:
- Cordless iso cable mouse ?

/Martin.



On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:29:30 +0200 (CDT), Martin Bartelds wrote:

:>Is there an OS/2 mouse driver for some
:>brand mouse with mousewheel ? Preferable Logitech.
:>
:>Martin
:>
:>
:>



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From: nospam@null                                       11-Sep-99 13:05:28
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2 doesn't work for me!!!!! Help!!!!!

From: nospam@null (Richard Crane)

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:35:19, kenkahn@us.ibm.com wrote:

> The problem is it's not easy (i.e. *very* hard) to
> figure out which BASEDEV drivers are required for
> basic system function, and which are optional, like
> the sound card drivers.  I've tried many different
> approaches but have never come up with a solution
> that doesn't miss some required drivers and add other
> optional drivers.  That's why I added the LXLITE
> support, which helps a little bit.
> 
> I'm open for suggestions.  One I've been thinking of
> is to have BOOTOS2 prompt the user while processing
> each BASEDEV driver and ask if it should be added.
> Optionally, or additionally, I could allow for an
> alternate text file that would list those drivers
> in your CONFIG.SYS that you didn't want added to a
> boot disk.  Maybe we could come up with a minimal
> file of this type that I would distribute (my AWE64
> card only has DEVICE drivers, no BASEDEVs).
> 
> Kenneth Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and
> BOOTOS2 Author)
> 
Sounds good to me but it would be nice of it to also indicate " I think I 
operate your ............" relevant device inserted here.
Richard A Crane


Abort, Retry, Fail or I wish I hadn't done that?

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From: nospam@null                                       11-Sep-99 13:06:05
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re MRICE AND BUDDY ATTACKS

From: nospam@null (Richard Crane)

I think it its sad that the os2 community is getting to the stage where it
seems
more bandwidth is devoted to arguing whether or not Buddy Donnelly uses MR ICE 

than the problems/virues of it.
I"ve lurked for years and Buddy's contributions on technical matters and
issues 
are generally valuable (I haven't killfiled him yet!).
Rather than attacking him for daring to speak against a peice of software why 
not push its positives (if it has any) or refute his claim of nonperformance?
It seems to me that the sad truth is that the OS2 net community is now more
and 
more concerned with "scoring" points from one another than the mutual support
of
OS2 users - look at the flames being given to them Netscape developers over
the 
beta - if I were them I doubt that I'd even bother to look at these groups.
Is it any wonder that people are leaving OS2 - ask the wrong question (or the 
right question from the wrong machine/operating system and a whole heap of 
heavies want to spend the next week threading flames at you!
LIGHTEN UP GUYS AND GALS!
Richard A Crane


Abort, Retry, Fail or I wish I hadn't done that?

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From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl                         11-Sep-99 15:04:01
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Object Desktop 2 - Hacking the LNF

From: "Arjen Meijer" <arjen@removethis.hacom.nl>

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:20:27 +0200 (MEZ), Robert Lalla wrote:

Most likely it are problems in the WPS, not OD. So upgrade to fixpack 11 and
try
again!

Arjen

:>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:30:36 -0400 (EDT), andrew g wrote:
:>
:>>I may be the only OD2 user to have made an LNF, judging
:>>by the apathy I see around me and on Stardock's part. I
:>
:>Once when OD2-fp1 came out I installed it.
:>But then is was faced to frequent crashes of WPS.
:>So I reinstalled ODpro1.5.
:>
:>--
:>RL
:>
:>
:>
:>



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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      11-Sep-99 15:43:20
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

doug.bissett at ibm.net [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News
Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an 
 "ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the 
 "company"), we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences 
 (should be even cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to 
 set up a site with the original disk, available on a FTP server 
 (password protected, so you need to pay your bucks to become a part of

[ snip ]

 It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
 all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large 
 "enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any 

I think this could be a very good solution to get a new OS/2 client of WSeB.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: luistino@my-deja.com                              11-Sep-99 13:54:19
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: luistino <luistino@my-deja.com>

Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
> 
> In <yNUQIMEW4Brk-pn2-vPGzdZ0ZmzIu@adsl-79-140-63.atl.bellsouth.net>,
milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao) writes:
> 
> >On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:44:26, Falko Tesch <falko.tesch@bigfoot.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Am 10.09.99, 10:23:15, schrieb hep@nospam.thanks zum Thema Netscape
> >> Fonts:
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >>
> >> > I'm using the latest Netcape 4.61 release, but the default fonts
> >> > (1024x768 resolution) are not brilliant. Does any body have any
> >> > suggestions for a more readable format ?

>"snip"
> 
>    What I use is 8. Helv for the proportional font, and 6.
> System VIO for the fixed font.  I have also been happy with
> Swiss for a proportional font, but in general, Helv is the best
> and most legible screen font.
> 
> baden
> 
> baden@unixg.ubc.ca
> http://baden.nu/
> OS/2, Solaris & Linux

Baden,  what screen resolution are you running? Which video card?

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From: luistino@my-deja.com                              11-Sep-99 13:56:03
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: luistino <luistino@my-deja.com>

Falko Tesch wrote:
> 
> Am 10.09.99, 10:23:15, schrieb hep@nospam.thanks zum Thema Netscape
> Fonts:
> 
> > Hi,
> 
> > I'm using the latest Netcape 4.61 release, but the default fonts
> > (1024x768 resolution) are not brilliant. Does any body have any
> > suggestions for a more readable format ?
> 
> Hi Howard,
> Yepp!
> Just install FreeType 1.0 (http://www.freetype.org) and use Arial as
> your Defaultfont. Looks much, much, much better here (using NN 4.04).
> 
> CU/2
> Falko

I thought "freetype" was for truetype fonts in winos2 sessions only

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From: luistino@my-deja.com                              11-Sep-99 14:02:21
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: luistino <luistino@my-deja.com>

Ted Miller wrote:
> 
> In message <yNUQIMEW4Brk-pn2-vPGzdZ0ZmzIu@adsl-79-140-63.atl.bellsouth.net>
-
> milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:31:19 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>Did I mess up my installation of FreeType?  I tried installing twice.
> :>No difference.  Fonts in Communicator on OS/2 are horrible.  How can I
> :>confirm that I really have FreeType installed?
> :>
> :>Regards
> :>Milind
> 
> Use this Rexx file called query.cmd:
> 
> /* */
> call RxFuncAdd "SysLoadFuncs", "RexxUtil", "SysLoadFuncs"
> call SysLoadFuncs
> 
> app = "PM_Font_Drivers"
> key = "TRUETYPE"
> 
> val = SysIni('USER', app, key)
> 
> if val = "ERROR:" then val = "none"
> /* strip the terminating NULL character */
> else val = substr(val, 1, pos(d2c(0), val) - 1)
> 
> say 'The current TrueType driver is ' || val
> pause
> 
> When I run it  query.cmd gives me:
> 
>    The current TrueType driver is \OS2\DLL\FREETYPE.DLL
> 
> Ted Miller
> ecmille@ibm.net

Ted

When I runb it I get the same thing, the fonts still suck!

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From: luistino@my-deja.com                              11-Sep-99 14:07:04
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: luistino <luistino@my-deja.com>

Khairil Yusof wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:23:15, hep@nospam.thanks wrote:
> 
> > I'm using the latest Netcape 4.61 release, but the default fonts
> > (1024x768 resolution) are not brilliant. Does any body have any
> > suggestions for a more readable format ?
> 
> Select Helv 10-14pt. Nice and sharp.
> 
> 

Kharil,

I am running Warp4, FP11, and my fonts look terrible in any OS2 or
winos2 application. Which video card/ driver/screen resolution are you
using?

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From: dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org                     11-Sep-99 14:13:21
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: DB2 installation

From: "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org>

On 9 Sep 1999 21:31:12 GMT, Jerry Prather wrote:

>Okay, I now have it installed.  IAW your instructions, I did not
>install the documentation or the control center.  I created the
>sample database, apparently without problem.  I started db2 and
>was able to display the database (it shows 1 record, right?).  

Depends on what you're showing, I think.

>I think that at this point I need the documentation.  It's been

:-)  Fair enough.  I'll tell our docs people - they'll be happy to know
SOMEONE is reading their docs... :-)

>about fifteen years since I last messed with an SQL database
>program and that was an early version of Informix running on UNIX.
>
>So I decided to get brave and install the documentation.  Done,
>apparently.
>
>Found the documentation area and started going through the Quick
>Beginnings section.  The first problem I ran into was that it
>told me to go to DB2->Registration and there was no such option. 
>Maybe because of the way I downloaded, I'm already registered and
>the option was surpressed???

Woops.  We pulled that option in v6 - obviously didn't make it into the
documentation.  Don't worry about it.  All it means is that we don't know who
you are to send you marketing propaganda.  :-)

>:>From your message, I'm guessing the problem is in Net.Question.  (Look this
>:>product up in deja ... I'll say no more.)  
>
>Done.  I'm not sure whether I understood it all or not, but my
>intent is to install VA Java V2 as soon as I feel that DB2 is
>running and try to create DB2/Java applications (not necessarily
>for web use, for now - I'm more interested in OS-independent
>applications).

Okay.  We do have a documented dependency (documented somewhere, but not the
online docs) that VAJ2 is installed *after* DB2.

>:>Since you have to reinstall
>:>anyway, try not installing the documentation as well as the Control Center. 

>:>I know, I know, these are important parts, especially when evaluating or
>:>learning DB2.  However, just for problem diagnoses, let's just leave them
>:>out.  If First Steps works (or whatever you're trying to use), or at least
>:>the problems you were facing don't appear, then we've narrowed it down to
>:>pretty much confirm what I am thinking.  Then you can reinstall - don't
>:>bother uninstalling - and select the docs and/or the CC, if you want them.
>:>
>:>If you can confirm this is indeed the case, come on back and we'll continue
>:>problem determination from there.
>
>Okay.  I've loaded up the documentation and that works - although
>I need to get the association back to NS 4.61B2 instead of
>StarOffice.  I've also installed the control center and am at the

Hmmm... neat.  I didn't think anyone would use that feature - the HTML links
on your desktop are all WP_URLs so that if you DID have another browser set
as default, we'd use whatever you had set up.  :-)  I thought everyone would
have Netscape and it wouldn't matter!  :->

>point where I need to reboot to have that take effect.  So my
>intention, since this was already so far advanced, is to get this
>off before rebooting.

Let us know how it goes.  The only thing that shouldn't work is DB2
help-search (get FP1 for that).
---
Disclaimer: unless explicitly mentioned otherwise, I do not speak
for the company I work for.



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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      12-Sep-99 00:38:04
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:07:08, luistino <luistino@my-deja.com> wrote:

> 
> I am running Warp4, FP11, and my fonts look terrible in any OS2 or
> winos2 application. Which video card/ driver/screen resolution are you
> using?

Warp 4, Fixpack 11, Matrox Millenium (2.21) at 1152x864 16bit colour.

Helvetica looks horrible but Helv is ok. Freetype is a lot better then the 
normal Truetype. But it's still not anti-aliased. This is for default fonts 
only, on quite a lot of webpages they set the fonts, so that if it ends up
being
a Type 1 font, and they put a size like <font size=2) then you're going to see 

jagged fonts.

It could also be your video/driver and the resolution. As even the fonts that 
look bad aren't exactly horrible. 


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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          11-Sep-99 14:39:04
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: quicken 99

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:53:35, !2020hindsight@usa.net (Bill Clark) wrote:

:Will Quicken run under winos2?

 Quicken 98 will. Can't speak to 99 though.

-- 
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From: mtve@hal-pc.org                                   11-Sep-99 09:19:05
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: quicken 99

From: Marvin Volz <mtve@hal-pc.org>

No, not 99. 98 was the last to work in winos2.


Bill Clark wrote:

> Will Quicken run under winos2?
>
> TIA
>
> -bc-
>
> User Friendly Software:
>   That which makes friends among those trying to use it



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From: weismer@erols.com                                 11-Sep-99 11:35:26
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Netscape Communicator

From: Murray Weismer <weismer@erols.com>

make sure you edit at least the nscp.ini in x:\os2

 I tried to move
> all of the files to another partition, edited all the
> statements in the config.sys that pointed to the old
> location. 
 Has
> anyone moved it to another partition and done
> anything special? 

Yes.

ou know. Learn what you don't.

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From: weismer@erols.com                                 11-Sep-99 11:39:04
  To: !2020hindsight@usa.net                            11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: quicken 99

To: Bill Clark <!2020hindsight@usa.net>
From: Murray Weismer <weismer@erols.com>

Absolutely not!
Q98 is the last that will.

Bill Clark wrote:
> 
> Will Quicken run under winos2?
> 
> TIA
> 
> -bc-
> 
> User Friendly Software:
>   That which makes friends among those trying to use it
> 

-- 
___________________________________________________________
Home of DreckBak OS/2 Disk Backup Utility Suite
http://weismer.virtualave.net/DreckBak.html
_____PLEASE DO BACKUP YOUR DISKS_________________________
IBM BESTTeam - Team OS/2	
RPS.BBS  Phila. Pa (215)624-8960 Adult, Bible, and OS2 related
Hot_Asian_Food: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/9001
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From: weismer@erols.com                                 11-Sep-99 11:53:04
  To: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: (1/2) Re: Backup & Defragmentation 3.1 (Sept. 7, 1999)

To: John Hong <jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca>
From: Murray Weismer <weismer@erols.com>

I've made all of this painless with the DreckBak for OS/2 backup/restore
utility suite. It uses info-zip as the compression engine.
 I've yet to see any os2 file not backed up because of being "locked".
I've backed up from the booted partition, re-formatted and restored many
times without a problem. There are a few files from my DOS based
Wildcat4 BBS that are locked by wildcat to prevent another node from
accessing it while in use, and these are the only files that I've ever
seen that are not processed. (and only if there is a user online during
the backup) These files are reported by the extensive logging built into
DreckBak.

It's available on my site, below, and at many popular OS2 sites (BMT,
Hobbes)


John Hong wrote:
> 
>                   Backup & Defragmentation 3.1
> 
>      This is just a little primer drawn up in order to help OS/2
> users to use common compression utilities such as PkZip for
> backing up their OS/2 drives.
>      Another use for this is also to fight against fragmentation.
> OS/2's HPFS file system does not fragment like the way FAT drives
> do, but it does become susceptible to it when the drive is almost
> full.  So, the best remedy is to backup the data, format the
> partition, then unarchive the backup back to the original
> partition and you are back in business.
>      Prior to doing this, be sure to create boot disks in order
> to compress/uncompress the backup files.  You can use either the
> Create Utility Diskettes option in OS/2's System Folder or (a
> better option) use BootOS/2 in order to make them.  BootOS/2 in
> particular is more advantageous since it would only need two 3.5"
> 1.44 MB diskettes over the three needed by OS/2 Warp 3 & Connect
> and the four for OS/2 Warp 4.  Plus, one can also use LxLite
> compression with BootOS/2 in order to save that little extra bit
> of disk space necessary.  As well, you can probably use it for an
> LS-120 or ZIP disk whereas the Utility Diskettes option would not
> support it.  BootOS/2 can be found at the Hobbes OS/2 Archive
> (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu).  LxLite can be found at LEO
> (http://www.leo.org).
>      EXTRA: It is a good idea to make your backups booting
> through your bootdisks since there maybe locked files that won't
> be compressed.  Locked files are files that are currently in use
> by OS/2 and will not allow any kind of manipulation from the user
> to take place.
>      EXTRA EXTRA: Before making a backup, it maybe a good idea to
> run CHKDSK from the bootable floppies first.  Another thing, make
> sure you run CHKDSK (CHKDSK X: /F:2) twice in a row.  I picked up
> this little tidbit from the "OS/2 Warp Unleashed" book by SAMS
> Publishing (fine book, BTW).  It is found in Chapter 18, dealing
> with troubleshooting on page 941:
> 
>      "Note that if you running HPFS, then you should
>      periodically run CHKDSK C: /F:2 twice.  The first pass
>      checks and cleans the primary HPFS structures, and the
>      second pass checks and clears the secondary HPFS
>      structures."
> 
>      BTW: When I say it was tested personally under an OS/2
> system, it means that I had tested it under a bootable OS/2
> partition and not just a partition with data on it.
> 
>      Updates:
> 
>      * Warp for e-Business
>      * Windows 95 - FAT32
> 
>      To Do List:
> 
>      * Testing ARJ/2 2.6x once it gets out of beta
> 
> 
>       *NEW*UPDATE* Warp for e-Business *UPDATE*NEW*
> 
>      Okay, now that you've seent this, I have read of a user
> on Usenet trying to use RAR/2 2.50 in order to backup their
> Warp for e-Business partition.  It didn't work, apparently
> the EA's were trashed.  Possibly this may have something to
> do with the new LVM and JFS.  I don't know since I do not have
> Warp for e-Business, and thus have no way of verifying.  So at
> this point in time it is best not to try using any of these
> methods for backing up Warp for e-Business.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Overall
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Compression    | Disk Spanning | Requires PM |  Recovery | EA's |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> PkZip/2 2.50   |      Yes      |     Yes     |    Yes    |  Yes |
> Info-Zip 2.22  |       No      |      No     |    Yes    |  Yes |
> RAR/2 2.50     |      Yes      |      No     |    Yes    |  Yes |
> ARJ/2 2.62 Beta|      Yes      |      No     |    Yes    |   No |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Disk Spanning: Ability to support multiple archives.  Basically
>      once the disk or cartridge is full, it can ask the user to
>      insert another disk or cartridge in order for it continue.
>      A Yes is good.
> Requires PM: Does the compression program require the PM,
>      Presentation Manager.  This is OS/2's GUI.  A no is a good
>      answer since it would be impossible to boot OS/2 up with
>      regular floppies with the PM (unless it was a ZIP/LS-120
>      booting with A: drive).
> Recovery: Ability to recover/fix a corrupt archive, ie. PkZipFix.
>      A yes here is a good answer.  If the file is corrupt you can
>      at least salvage something from it.
> EA's: Ability to save OS/2's Extended Attributes.  A yes here is
>      a must for OS/2.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Info-Zip for OS/2 (v2.22)
> http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/
> 
>      Works very well under OS/2.  Use the following switches:
> 
> zip -rS$ (destination/name of backup) *
> 
> example:
> 
> zip -rS$ F:\BACKUP.ZIP *
> 
>      Stick unzip.exe onto your OS/2 bootdisks, to restore the
> drive simply:
> 
> unzip (name of backup)
> 
> example:
> 
> C: (being where I want it unzipped)
> unzip F:\BACKUP.ZIP
> 
>      Info-Zip is fine if you are just going to back it up to
> another partition or have a removable media drive large enough to
> fit it.  Currently, Info-Zip is not able to handle disk spanning.
> It is a future feature to be added according to their home
> webpage when 3.0 comes out.
> 
> Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's).
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> PkZip for OS/2 (v2.50)
> http://www.pkware.com
> 
>      Another that works well under OS/2.  Perhaps a little better
> than Info-Zip since PkZip does handle disk spanning.  Use the
> following switch:
> 
> pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=(drive letter)
>      (destination/name of backup) *
> 
> example:
> 
> pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=C F:\BACKUP.ZIP *
> 
>      To enable disk spanning, add the /span switch before the
> /volume one.
>      Take note, use pkzip.exe, do not use pkzip2.cmd or else it
> will simply fail and just zip up the volume label in a file
> called "all.zip".
> 
>      Now to uncompress the archive, simply go:
> 
> pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C
>      (destination/name of backup)
> 
> example:
> 
> pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C
> F:\BACKUP.ZIP C:
> 
> Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's).
> 
>      Extra Note: Apparently the geniuses at PkWare designed PkZip
> for OS/2 needing the Presentation Manager.  So, using the boot
> disks from the Create Utility Disks function will not work.  The
> only way for BootOS/2 to get this to work is with the TYPE=PM
> option.  This of course will require a bootable device large
> enough to handle the extra data.  So really you are going to need
> a bootable ZIP or LS-120 device in order to get this working.
> With that said, you can use unzip.exe in order to uncompress the
> pkzipped files.  But, that has a problem too.  Currently UnZip
> 5.40 will not be able to unzip multiple archives (like Zip 2.22).
> This is slated for the next major release (UnZip 6.00).
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> RAR for OS/2 (v2.50)
> http://www.rarsoft.com
> 
>      Easiest one to use due to its Norton Commander-like
> interface.  Go into RAR's configuration (press F9, it is the
> first item on the menu) and make sure the following are checked
> on:
> 
>      X - Always Solid Archiving
>      X - Put Recovery Record
> 
>      X - Read Only
>      X - Hidden
>      X - System
>      X - Archive
> 
>      X - Save extended attributes
> 
>      It could also be a good idea to check on multimedia
> compression in order to get better compression.  The rest is
> merely of choice, especially the compression (six methods to
> choose) whether to be for the best compression (slowest) or no
> compression at all in simply storing the files (fastest).
>      In order to backup your OS/2 drive, simply hit the "+" key
> and push enter in order to highlight all the directories (or
> select whichever one's you intend to backup).  Push F5 in order
> to compress onto a disk/cart and use Autodetect method in order
> to ensure spanning across disks/carts (or you can specify exactly
> what size you want).  Very easy.
> 
>      Take Note: Do not use "UNRAR.EXE" to restore!
>      Otherwise you will get a "Desktop can not be found in
>      OS2.INI file, attempting to create Temporary Desktop"
>      error message, where the Temperary Desktop will also
>      fail, leaving you sitting at the PM with one OS/2
>      Window session.
> 
>      In order to restore, place RAR.EXE onto the OS/2 bootable
> diskettes.  Start RAR.EXE up, now go to wherever you have the
> file backed up to, enter it, this will allow you view the files
> that are compressed inside the archived file.  Once that is done,
> hit the "+" key and press enter in order to highlight all the
> files.  Now, press ALT-F4 in order to restore by choosing the
> destination.  Simply put in "C:" or wherever your original boot
> partition was.  Once all of it extracted, there you go.  I think
> we have a winner.
> 
> Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's) and a Warp 3
> system (FP40 applied).
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ARJ/2 (v2.62)
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
> 
>      I confess that I have not yet tested ARJ/2, but I wouldn't
> recommend using it just yet since it is still in a beta stage,
> and does not save EA's.  But you could use EAUTIL in order to do
> this for you, but that is a bit of a chore especially since the
> other compression utilities here can do this automatically.  So
> what would be the point?
>      To enable disk spanning for ARJ/2, use:
> 
> arj a -vxxxx
> 
>      xxxx = denotes the specific size you want it to be
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>      Note: I only intend to write about currently supported
>      compression utilities.  In otherwords, LHA and ZOO for
>      instance I simply will ignore.  Neither one has been
>      updated since 1989-1993, and are relatively old and
>      obsolete given the others listed here.
> 
> Windows 95 - FAT32 (http://www.microsoft.com) - *NEW*
> 
>      So, you want to just dump OS/2 forever and head off into
> merry merry Windows 95 land?  Well, I have not had the
> opportunity to try this using Windows 95 on a VFAT partition,
> but under FAT32, there is simply no way you can backup a
> Windows 95 partition using stuff like PkZip for Windows or
> WinRAR.  The problem is that there are certain locked files
> at play.  PkZip for Windows did complete, but now you have the
> even bigger problem of trying to restore it from a bootdisk.
> Won't happen, I'm afraid.  When I tried this booting off of a
> Windows 95 boot disk, running PkZip 2.50's PkUnZip utility, it
> would not work because it complained of a lack of memory
> (apparently the FAT32 support on the bootdisk takes up a lot
> of memory as I'm always stuck with 542k conventional RAM).
> The last hope was RAR for DOS, but that too also complained of
> a lack of memory.  So, what's the point of using a Windows
> compression utility in order to backup the entire Windows 95
> partition if there is absolutely *NO* way of restoring it?
>      Now, where exactly am I going with all this?  Simple,
> thanks to the great FAT32 driver written by Henk Kelder, one
> can actually follow the exact methods listed here with the
> various compression utilities in order for OS/2 to backup
> Windows 95 through OS/2!  Using RAR/2 in the identical manner
> listed earlier will allow you to backup a Windows 95 partition.
> Once backed up, you can boot up with the Windows 95 bootdisk
> and then format the partition, re-boot back into OS/2 and use
> RAR/2 in order to restore the Windows 95 partition back to
> its previous state.  Now when you look at the disk with Norton
> Speedisk or booting Windows 95 up with a bootdisk in order to
> use ScanDisk (to see the entire disk information) you will see
> all the clusters neatly arranged in perfect order.  No
> fragmentation!  The advantage to using this method over using
> programs like Microsoft Defrag or Norton Speedisk is that they
> are not always perfect and can in fact at some times break
> files.  My motivation in going to all of this trouble was
> because after using Defrag, I found that one of my .WAV files
> in my Multimedia Themes was broken and could not be accessible.
> Imagine what else could break.
>      I have not tried using Info-ZIP or PkZip for OS/2, but
> I figure they would work with the same restrictions applied
> (ie. Info-Zip no disk spanning, PkZip needing the Presentation
> Manager).  In order to install Henk's FAT32 driver, I simply
> followed the quicky instructions he had listed in the FAT32.TXT
> file, using PARTFLT.FLT and not the OS2DASD.DMD file he had
> modifyed (on my OS/2 box it trapped as a result).  On the
> IFS=FAT32 line I did not have /EAS on (enabling Extended
> Attribute support).
>      So, do you *really* want to dump OS/2?  Didn't think
> so.  A question...could this method work with Linux?  There
> is a ext2 driver available for OS/2, that I know of.  Perhaps
> that is something else for me to try and play with! ;-)
> 
> CONCLUSION
> 
>      The best compression program for backing up OS/2 with is
> RAR/2, hands down.  Not only does it support disk spanning,

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From: weismer@erols.com                                 11-Sep-99 11:53:04
  To: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: (2/2) Re: Backup & Defragmentation 3.1 (Sept. 7, 1999)

> EA's, doesn't require the Presentation Manager, and can recover
> from corrupt archives, but it is also easy to use due to the
> text-based Norton Commander-like interface, so no messy command
> line switches to are necessary.  A great piece of work, indeed!
> Capable of backing up OS/2 onto another partition or onto
> multiple disks/cartridges making it right now, the emergency
> disaster recovery solution of choice out of the current crop of
> common compression utilities.
>      There are a few more coming, the next major release of
> Info-Zip (Zip 3.00 & UnZip 6.00) are being planned to support
> multiple archives.  ARJ/2 2.6x, currently in beta, is another
> possible choice to look at since it doesn't need the PM and
> supports disk spanning and recovery from corrupt archives.
> 
> BOOTOS/2 Notes:
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu - latest version is 9.17
> 
>      There seems to be a problem with Warp Connect & FP39 when
> trying to make a BootOS/2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM partition.  It creates
> it fine, but when I boot it up, it freezes at the "OS/2" box that
> appears on the top left-hand corner.  Weird.  I could not boot
> to a PM partition (BOOTOS2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM) even when I was back
> down in FP26!  Same symptom occurs, during bootup it just freezes
> at the "OS/2" box on the top left-hand corner.  The samething
> also occurs in FP40, BTW.
>      Even making just the floppies seems to cause a small error
> with Warp 3 & Connect.  Under FP40, for instance, upon making the
> two disk system (BOOTOS2 2DISK=A) after loading up the first disk
> it would give me a blank screen and stop dead in its tracks,
> going no further.  The solution, copy SESMGR.DLL from your
> x:\OS2\DLL onto your BOOTOS2 disk 1 (A:\OS2\DLL).  This also
> happened under FP39, BTW.  If you do run into any other kind of
> problem with the BOOTOS2 floppies, press ALT-F2 upon booting up
> the diskettes just to see what happens.  On this occasion for
> example, upon pressing ALT-F2, the screen said that SESMGR.DLL
> was not installed in any of the LIBPATH directory statements on
> the diskette.
>      Warp 4 seems to have absolutely no issues whatsoever, either
> a TYPE=PM or 2DISK=A under any of the FP's I have used (FP1, FP6,
> & FP10).

-- 
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From: milindr@bellsouth.net                             11-Sep-99 16:03:03
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:02:43, luistino <luistino@my-deja.com> wrote:

> > :>Did I mess up my installation of FreeType?  I tried installing twice.
> > :>No difference.  Fonts in Communicator on OS/2 are horrible.  How can I
> > :>confirm that I really have FreeType installed?
> > 
> > When I run it  query.cmd gives me:
> > 
> >    The current TrueType driver is \OS2\DLL\FREETYPE.DLL
> > 
> 
> When I run it I get the same thing, the fonts still suck!

Ditto.

Regards
Milind

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From: milindr@bellsouth.net                             11-Sep-99 16:07:21
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)

> >> > I'm using the latest Netcape 4.61 release, but the default fonts
> >> > (1024x768 resolution) are not brilliant. Does any body have any
> >> > suggestions for a more readable format ?
> >> 
> >I had the same problem and tried out the same solution, but Arial.8 
> >just doesn't look as good as Helv.8.  Also, some pages like 
> >http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml look absolutely terrible with 
> >Arial.8
> >
> >Arial at any font size looks bad.   
> >
> >Did I mess up my installation of FreeType?  I tried installing twice. 
> >No difference.  Fonts in Communicator on OS/2 are horrible.  How can I
> >confirm that I really have FreeType installed?
> 
>    I really like my fonts in Communicator 4.61.  They are just
> as good as, if not better than, the Window's ones.
> 
>    What I use is 8. Helv for the proportional font, and 6.
> System VIO for the fixed font.  I have also been happy with
> Swiss for a proportional font, but in general, Helv is the best
> and most legible screen font.

Can you see if you get the same results with the dejanews page 
http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml.  Do a search and see the results 
page too.

If your results are good, what resolution are you running at?

I'm running at 1152x864 on a Matrox Millenium with the 2.23.082 
driver.

Regards
Milind

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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  11-Sep-99 10:13:03
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: Object Desktop 2 - Hacking the LNF

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

If you are at FP11, you may get bitten by the HPFS change in FP11 that
caused directory entries to get the archive bit set on.  Visit
http://www.os2ss.com/users/mckinnis for a discussion and a workaround. 
I used to get WPS resets with OD2 Object Navigator on a fairly regular
basis until I backed off the HPFS updates.

Robert Lalla wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:30:36 -0400 (EDT), andrew g wrote:
> 
> >I may be the only OD2 user to have made an LNF, judging
> >by the apathy I see around me and on Stardock's part. I
> 
> Once when OD2-fp1 came out I installed it.
> But then is was faced to frequent crashes of WPS.
> So I reinstalled ODpro1.5.
> 
> --
> RL

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: milindr@bellsouth.net                             11-Sep-99 16:18:24
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: Mousedriver for mouse w. Mousewheel

From: milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)

> :>Is there an OS/2 mouse driver for some
> :>brand mouse with mousewheel ? Preferable Logitech.
>
> 	Yes.  I have a logitech wheel mouse that I've had working in OS2 for
> almost a year now.  As I recall, there is am IBM device driver for the
> "ScrollPoint" or the "Logitech Mouseman+" mouse. The compressed file
> is SCROLLMS.EXE. I'm not sure where I got the file but it was on one

I'm using Microsoft's scroll mouse with the SCROLLMS driver and found 
that the mouse movement speed at its fastest is slower than what I had
with the regular mouse driver.  Anyone else notice this?  It is 
substantially slower than the speed in Windows.

Also, the windows driver supports a lot of features of the mouse 
(clicks etc.) which don't work with the OS/2 driver.  One thing I'd 
especially like to change is the number of lines to scroll.  It's 
hardcoded to 1 line with the OS/2 driver :-(

Regards
Milind

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          11-Sep-99 17:08:13
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: Re MRICE AND BUDDY ATTACKS

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:06:11, nospam@null (Richard Crane) a crit dans un 
message:

> I think it its sad that the os2 community is getting to the stage where it
seems
> more bandwidth is devoted to arguing whether or not Buddy Donnelly uses MR
ICE 
> than the problems/virues of it.

Folks, please, this is a non-issue. These are the facts:

I do use it. (I paid for it.) I like it a lot. It ain't perfect. And it 
ain't likely to get much more work done on it.


> I"ve lurked for years and Buddy's contributions on technical matters and
issues 
> are generally valuable (I haven't killfiled him yet!).

I'm always hoping my offerings don't suck. But I make no claims of 
technical knowledge about computers in general. I know a lot about my own 
system, as many people do, and about things I've dealt with myself here. 
Beyond that, listen to the others here who are the professionals I listened
to to learn what I know.



> Rather than attacking him for daring to speak against a peice of software
why 
> not push its positives (if it has any) or refute his claim of
nonperformance?

I never claimed it didn't perform, and the originator of the thread merely 
said they, as a newcomer, didn't like several things about it and wondered 
what they were missing. As it was, they had done a good job of looking at 
it themselves, and had found the items that do, and will, cause a new user 
to have problems getting into it.

Then somebody in my killfile (for the nastiness of their tone) posted a 
rabid, spittle-flecked followup calling me an asshole and a third 
columnist, and when others quoted him I saw it, and then it went on, and 
on, and on.

I have my faults, and ducking barroom fights is one of them, according the 
the Manly Men Association. I'm sure a lot of my gratuitous side talk has 
nettled some people over the years, especially I guess if you listen to all
four hours of the Rush Limbaugh feed each day, or if you believe in 
saluting flags instead of burning them (see?). I try to keep everything 
couched in good-hearted humour, and also try to pay my way with the coin of
helpfulness, but I am sure there are folks out there who just plain don't 
like me. (I'm sure, because they write to me to tell me that.) My normal 
response is to show them how to use ProNews (if you're not using it for a 
news client, you should be, Netscape's attempt to be more than an HTML 
browser be damned) to construct a filter to hide me from their tender view.
Or MR2, for that matter.


> It seems to me that the sad truth is that the OS2 net community is now more
and 
> more concerned with "scoring" points from one another than the mutual
support of
> OS2 users - 

This is not new. But maybe with the defection of the weak sisters the pot 
has boiled down a bit and the bone is showing through the soup?

>look at the flames being given to them Netscape developers over the 
> beta - if I were them I doubt that I'd even bother to look at these groups.
> Is it any wonder that people are leaving OS2 - ask the wrong question (or
the 
> right question from the wrong machine/operating system and a whole heap of 
> heavies want to spend the next week threading flames at you!

There are a lot of meds out there in need of review, I guess. Again, do 
what I do and just punch up a ProNews filter on anybody who says stuff 
ugly. This beautiful life's too short to climb back over the fence and root
around in the hogwallow just because you hear the word "asshole" coming 
from over in that direction.

And hell, the Rapture's on it's way, right? (Though I can't bring myself to
believe that Jesus can't count the number of years since he was born, so it
won't be till the *END* of 2000, not the beginning.)


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                11-Sep-99 13:24:15
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2 doesn't work for me!!!!! Help!!!!!

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

nospam@null (Richard Crane) said:
>> I'm open for suggestions.  One I've been thinking of
>> is to have BOOTOS2 prompt the user while processing
>> each BASEDEV driver and ask if it should be added.
 
>Sounds good to me but it would be nice of it to also indicate " I think I 
>operate your ............" relevant device inserted here.

I hope there is some recall that there are non-programmers who would like to
use
BootOS2.  Folks who might be good at surgery or blacksmithing, but not at the
guts of OS/2.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com                             12-Sep-99 03:04:11
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 21:32:24
Subj: Re: MR/2 ICE

From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com (taiQ)

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:40:46, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> 
thought aloud:

> On <geribeurzfyrlqvnycvcrkpbz.fhthdh0.pminews@news.dial.pipex.com>, on
> 09/09/99 at 08:00 PM,
> 
>    "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> said:
> > There's nothing there that identifies it as one operating system or
> > another nor as one newsreader vs another. If anything it looks more like
> > dejanews stuff.
> 
> Nah, it's exactly what I see in posts from my daughter in law who is using
> Win98 because its required by her grad school class.

This has been one of the funniest threads I've seen in a while - don't
spoil it now by admitting you were wrong all along.


Cheers,
-- 
 taiQ

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From: anon@anonymous.co.uk                              11-Sep-99 19:57:01
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 21:32:24
Subj: Acrobat Reader at 256 colours

From: anon@anonymous.co.uk (Steve)

Hi

Anybody successfully running the OS/2 native version of the Acrobat
Reader at 256 colours ?. Just seem to get horrible coloured button bar
icons (but mainly black). 

The windows version running on a Windows only machine at 256 colours
doesn't exhibit this problem so why should the OS/2 version ?.

The beta copy of Acrobat Reader for OS/2 I have doesn't display this
problem either, the buttons are fine.

Anybody know if a patch has been released to correct this ?


Steve.

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From: Jeff.davis.no@spam.ibm.net                        11-Sep-99 17:01:02
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 21:32:24
Subj: Re: DB2 installation

From: "Jeff Davis" <Jeff.davis.no@spam.ibm.net>

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:13:43 GMT, Darin McBride wrote:

>Okay.  We do have a documented dependency (documented somewhere, but not the
>online docs) that VAJ2 is installed *after* DB2.
>
And if VAJ2 is installed prior to DB2, what problems might occur


// ------------------------------------
// Jeff Davis
// Prince Edward Island, Canada



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From: say@sfu.ca                                        11-Sep-99 20:58:13
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:18
Subj: WTB: OS/2 Supersites CD wanted

From: Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca>

  I'd like to get the 4 CD set of the Superside OS2 CDROMS
issued in March 1999.
				Daniel Say
				say@sfu.ca
				ancouver, Canada

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   11-Sep-99 15:31:12
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:19
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

I have used OS/2 since 1992 and one thing I do know - font rendering
sux. Just look at Describe or other word processors. Jaggies galore!
(Intel i740, 1280x, 65K colors).

Khairil Yusof wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:07:08, luistino <luistino@my-deja.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I am running Warp4, FP11, and my fonts look terrible in any OS2 or
> > winos2 application. Which video card/ driver/screen resolution are you
> > using?
> 
> Warp 4, Fixpack 11, Matrox Millenium (2.21) at 1152x864 16bit colour.
> 
> Helvetica looks horrible but Helv is ok. Freetype is a lot better then the
> normal Truetype. But it's still not anti-aliased. This is for default fonts
> only, on quite a lot of webpages they set the fonts, so that if it ends up
being
> a Type 1 font, and they put a size like <font size=2) then you're going to
see
> jagged fonts.
> 
> It could also be your video/driver and the resolution. As even the fonts
that
> look bad aren't exactly horrible.

-- 

**********************
DigiGraph Technical
http://www.dgraph.com
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From: jan.hartman@fil.lu.se                             10-Sep-99 13:17:11
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:19
Subj: Re: Question about quality of pdf-files from ghostscript

From: "Jan Hartman" <jan.hartman@fil.lu.se>

On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:16:29 -0400, letoured@sover.net wrote:

>>> I do my type-setting myself, and my output from DeScribe is better than
what they
>>> get >> from their FrameMaker.
>>Yes, I've made excellent-looking output from DeScribe. I seldom go into
>>Win to use Framemaker or anything else over there.
>
>Framemaker has some pretty good type and layout controls. I find it hard
>to believe that any word processor does a better job. So I'm curious, just
>what is the publisher doing that you don't like? 
>
>BTW, if you can get Frame 5, it runs just find under Win-OS2.
>
Ed,

there are many functins in Describe that I need, but I do not know if

FrameMaker has the all or not. 

First of all, I find "tracking kerning" important. This is the
function to
but space between letters, as well as between words, when the text
is justified. In this way you avoid "white worms" running up and down
the
page. This is important if you have columns, and your have short
lines.
WordPerfect, by the way, has a similar function, as has PageMaker.
But not FrameMaker. Nor will i ever use Word or WordPro since they
do not have this. 

Secondly, I like the function to adjust such things as where the line
under
words, if you underline, where you want it. You can for instance
adjust how
thick the line should be, and how far below the word. And, just to
mention
another thing, it is easy to move indivudual letters up and down the
way you
want. For instance, I use a figures from the expertset to Adobe
Garamond.
Those figures looks funny if used as footnot references in the text.
However,
in DeScribe I can move them just a little bit up, and then they will
look great.
I do not know if this can be done in FrameMaker. 

I do know that FrameMaker has a lot of stuff that DeScribe does not.
But, as far
as I am concerned, I do not need automatisation of index,
cross-references and 
so on. What I need is what DeScribe gives me.


Sincerely Yours,

/ Jan
===================================================
Jan Hartman
Filosofiska institutionen/Department of Philosophy
Lunds Universitet/Lund University                                       
Kungshuset, Lundagrd                                  +46-(0)46 2223253
S-222 22 Lund                                              fax +46-(0)46
2224424
Sweden
E-mail: Jan.Hartman@fil.lu.se


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From: jan.hartman@fil.lu.se                             11-Sep-99 09:05:07
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:19
Subj: Re: Question about quality of pdf-files from ghostscript

From: "Jan Hartman" <jan.hartman@fil.lu.se>

On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:16:29 -0400, letoured@sover.net wrote:

:>>> I do my type-setting myself, and my output from DeScribe is better than
what they
:>>> get >> from their FrameMaker.
:>>Yes, I've made excellent-looking output from DeScribe. I seldom go into
:>>Win to use Framemaker or anything else over there.
:>
:>Framemaker has some pretty good type and layout controls. I find it hard
:>to believe that any word processor does a better job. So I'm curious, just
:>what is the publisher doing that you don't like? 
:>
:>BTW, if you can get Frame 5, it runs just find under Win-OS2.
:>
:>
:>_____________
:>Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>
:>

What makes the output better from DeScribe is what I believe is called
"tracking kerning". This is the function to put space between letters, and
not only between words, in justified text. This prevents the from being
"white worms" running up and down the page. This kerningfunction
is easy to adjust to different kinds of text, and does give the text a
better over all impression. (The "coloring" of the page is more even,
if you know what I mean). This is very important especially if the lines
are short because you use columns.

Another thing which is nice with DeScribe (I do not know if FrameMaker 
has it), is the possibility to adjust such things as how thick the line is
when
you underline, and how far below the letters it should be. Furthermore
there is the possibility to adjust indivudual letters, whereever they are
in the text, up and down. For instance, I wanted to adjust all my footnot
references in the text a little bit up. No problem in DeScribe. 

Anyway, tracking kerning is what is important for me. WordPerfect has it,
Page Maker has it, but FrameMaker, Word, WordPro, do not. Can't
really live without ut!

/ Jan




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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   11-Sep-99 15:43:21
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:19
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

Where do I send the money? :)
I think this is a great idea.

Martin Nisshagen wrote:
> 
> doug.bissett at ibm.net [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News
> Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
> 
>  I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
>  "ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the
>  "company"), we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences
>  (should be even cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to
>  set up a site with the original disk, available on a FTP server
>  (password protected, so you need to pay your bucks to become a part of
> 
> [ snip ]
> 
>  It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
>  all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large
>  "enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any
> 
> I think this could be a very good solution to get a new OS/2 client of WSeB.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> m a r t i n | n
> 
> --
> Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
> CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
> d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

-- 

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http://www.dgraph.com
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From: jbrock@panix.com                                  11-Sep-99 17:49:28
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:19
Subj: Re: Acrobat Reader at 256 colours

From: jbrock@panix.com (John Brock)

Acrobat Reader 3.0 for OS/2 works fine for me at 256 colors.

In article <37dab1b5.41973774@news.freeserve.net>,
Steve <anon@anonymous.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi
>
>Anybody successfully running the OS/2 native version of the Acrobat
>Reader at 256 colours ?. Just seem to get horrible coloured button bar
>icons (but mainly black). 
>
>The windows version running on a Windows only machine at 256 colours
>doesn't exhibit this problem so why should the OS/2 version ?.
>
>The beta copy of Acrobat Reader for OS/2 I have doesn't display this
>problem either, the buttons are fine.
>
>Anybody know if a patch has been released to correct this ?
-- 
John Brock
jbrock@panix.com

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From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net                         11-Sep-99 23:15:12
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net

In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer
<bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> writes:
>On <9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-SdMNbMs42God@localhost>, on 09/09/99 at 11:42 PM,
>   fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk) said:
>

>
>One, and the one I am leaning toward, is to file a breach of contract suit
>against Symantec based upon the press releases issued at the time they
>took over IBM's antivirus product. Possibly IBM would also have to be a
>party defendant to the suit since otherwise Symantec could claim, in
>defense, that IBM wanted them to eliminate the SOHO and individual user
>after promising support, applications, etc. for OS/2 which induced us to
>buy the OS in the first place.
>
>It would not cost nearly the price of the CD and 10 licenses for an
>individual to file a suit. If a dozen or so do it at the same time, the
>suits would be combined into a class action on behalf of all purchasers of
>OS/2.
>
My .02 - 

Maybe I'm too laid back or perhaps I just don't like lawyers but...
Symantec does not want our business so why not just give our bucks to
someone that does?  Someone like pandasoftware?
  The pooled money idea is a good one though but it would still mean
supporting a company that does not want your business.

 
J. Pedone
jpedone@flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
 
No need for WindowsVideoAccelerator, get OS/2.
Advanced design: Upper management doesn't understand it.

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From: centus@coqui.net                                  12-Sep-99 00:42:23
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: Looking for *Cheap* Pcboard v15.2x BBS

From: centus@coqui.net

Hi

I want to go online again.  I am very interested in buying *cheap* a 
10 or 50 nodes  of Pcboard v15.22.  If anyone knows of a former BBS 
sysop willing to e

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From: centus@coqui.net                                  12-Sep-99 00:44:09
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: PCB v15.22

From: centus@coqui.net

I am very interested in buying (*cheap)* v15.22 or PCB BBS.  Any 
former sysop willing to sell please contact me at:
centus@coqui.net

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From: dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org                     12-Sep-99 00:59:29
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: Re: DB2 installation

From: "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org>

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:01:05 -0300 (ADT), Jeff Davis wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:13:43 GMT, Darin McBride wrote:
>
>>Okay.  We do have a documented dependency (documented somewhere, but not the
>>online docs) that VAJ2 is installed *after* DB2.

>And if VAJ2 is installed prior to DB2, what problems might occur

Your search engine indexes may be unrecoverably messed up.  (Well, an
uninstall/reinstall-in-the-right-order would bring them back in line.)  No
non-search-related issues are known (or even suspected).
---
Disclaimer: unless explicitly mentioned otherwise, I do not speak
for the company I work for.



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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      12-Sep-99 11:42:19
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:31:25, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> wrote:

> I have used OS/2 since 1992 and one thing I do know - font rendering
> sux. Just look at Describe or other word processors. Jaggies galore!
> (Intel i740, 1280x, 65K colors).

I know.. however, certain fonts look ok. For example Times New Roman looks ok
in
WordPro but Perpetua just hurts your eyes. Most Truetype fonts are readable 
though with Freetype/2. Unfortunately, they create rather huge poscript files.


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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   11-Sep-99 20:27:25
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: Re: Acrobat Reader at 256 colours

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

Do you have palette switching enabled? Without that the app is forced to
use colors assigned by PM and this does not always look good.

John Brock wrote:
> 
> Acrobat Reader 3.0 for OS/2 works fine for me at 256 colors.
> 
> In article <37dab1b5.41973774@news.freeserve.net>,
> Steve <anon@anonymous.co.uk> wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >Anybody successfully running the OS/2 native version of the Acrobat
> >Reader at 256 colours ?. Just seem to get horrible coloured button bar
> >icons (but mainly black).
> >
> >The windows version running on a Windows only machine at 256 colours
> >doesn't exhibit this problem so why should the OS/2 version ?.
> >
> >The beta copy of Acrobat Reader for OS/2 I have doesn't display this
> >problem either, the buttons are fine.
> >
> >Anybody know if a patch has been released to correct this ?
> --
> John Brock
> jbrock@panix.com

-- 

**********************
DigiGraph Technical
http://www.dgraph.com
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From: jbrock@panix.com                                  11-Sep-99 23:18:24
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: Acrobat Reader at 256 colours

From: jbrock@panix.com (John Brock)

>John Brock wrote:
>> 
>> Acrobat Reader 3.0 for OS/2 works fine for me at 256 colors.

In article <37DB0FA6.DD8AC34A@dgraph.com>,
Kris Kadela  <kris@dgraph.com> wrote:
>Do you have palette switching enabled? Without that the app is forced to
>use colors assigned by PM and this does not always look good.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this.  If you mean the box that
says "Workplace shell palette aware" on the "256 Colors" tab under
System Properties then no, the box isn't currently checked on my
system.  But according to the Help button this seems to be mainly for
background bitmaps.  Is this what you mean, or should I look somewhere
else?  I've used Adobe Acrobat Reader on Windows NT systems as well as
my OS/2 system, and I haven't noticed any obvious differences (although
I haven't really been looking either).
-- 
John Brock
jbrock@panix.com

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 11-Sep-99 23:05:25
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Tape backup: GTAR success story

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Some notes about an all-too "interesting" hard disk disaster
and recovery: thanks either to a busted sound card or me
messing where I shouldn't, my system partition started going
south, slowly.  First I noticed missing objects, then
certain programs weren't behaving properly.  Then I lost
Win-OS2 support, and finally I couldn't reinstall video
drivers.  So after a point I finally realized I wasn't going
to be able to recover, and was going to have to restore it
from backup.

Fortunately I had made sure as much as possible that my
system files and ONLY these were on the system partition. 
(Frankly I think the next time around I'm going to move Java
to a different one.)  Unfotunately, the most recent backup
I'd done, with BA/2, wouldn't go.  The log for it seemed to
be on my maintenance partition, but only half my drives
showed up under the selection. 

When I tried BA/2's CLREST, it hung on one file for 15
minutes 9% of the way through the restore (this took 2.5
hours, since CLREST starts at the beginning of the tape and
goes on until it finds entries that match your drivespec.) 
Finally, when I attempted to restore the log file from the
tape itself, BA/2 just refused.

Enter GTAR.  For some reason I've tried to alternate my full
backups between BA/2 and GTAR.  I should say, when I moved
all my drives, BA/2 worked impeccably, and I suspect it
might be the best thing for that kind of operation.  But in
this case, where BA/2 failed to satisfy, GTAR came through
like a champ.  I had the directory (log) for my most recent
full backup on the maintenance partition, and while I admit
the unix-style filespect syntax slowed me down a little bit,
once it all completed -- I had a completely, fully restored
system partition.

Couple notes here:

If you're running streaming media, you definitely need to
try GTAR with GTAK.  No, it's not very easy to set up, and
once you get the hang of it you'll have to plan things out:
put up rexx scripts to automate file and directory recovery,
script your backup procedures so that they yield
comprehensible directory names (eg, F1999-09-11.DIR).  Once
you get that set up, you can simplify things like restoring
one file or directory from a backup:

/* for restore of files from tape dir */
/* Load the REXXUTIL library functions */
rc=rxfuncadd('SysLoadFuncs','RexxUtil','SysLoadFuncs')
call sysloadfuncs
say "Is this from a F(ull) or D(ifferential) backup?"
pull type
say "what Year? (YYYY)"
pull year
say "backup Month (in mm)?"
pull month
say "backup Date (dd)?"
pull date
say "Drive letter (no colon)"
pull drive
say "Filespec? (slash forward; leave off first slash/last colon for full
directory restore)"
pull filespec
'tar -xppPE -D E:/GTAK-GTAR/LOGS/'type''year'-'month'-'date'.DIR
'drive':/./'filespec''

Once you've got that working, you'll want to make a set of
backup diskettes with the proper drivers on them in case you
get a real disaster.  You need to add one more command to
your backup to simply add an archive of the name of the
directory file tar just created -- if the time comes you've
got to restore that directory to disk because you're
restoring the whole backup, you simply use GTAK commands to
move the tape to where you put the directory: (culled from
the REXX procedure I use for it):

'tape end'
'tape if -2'
'tape if 1'
'tar -xppPE --posix --label='year''month''date''

Personally I don't try full backups except through my
maintenance partition -- it may very well work otherwise,
but if the price of security is just booting the BOOTOS2
partition for an hour or so, I'm willing to pay it.

I get the feeling the tendency around here is either to hard
disk backups or CD-ROM.  I'm still glad I laid out all that
dough for a DAT, prolly the single most expensive thing on
this system.  


-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   11-Sep-99 22:30:25
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: Acrobat Reader at 256 colours

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>


John Brock wrote:
> 
> >John Brock wrote:
> >>
> >> Acrobat Reader 3.0 for OS/2 works fine for me at 256 colors.
> 
> In article <37DB0FA6.DD8AC34A@dgraph.com>,
> Kris Kadela  <kris@dgraph.com> wrote:
> >Do you have palette switching enabled? Without that the app is forced to
> >use colors assigned by PM and this does not always look good.
> 
> I'm not really sure what you mean by this.  If you mean the box that
> says "Workplace shell palette aware" on the "256 Colors" tab under
> System Properties then no, the box isn't currently checked on my
> system.  But according to the Help button this seems to be mainly for
> background bitmaps.  Is this what you mean, or should I look somewhere
> else?  I've used Adobe Acrobat Reader on Windows NT systems as well as
> my OS/2 system, and I haven't noticed any obvious differences (although
> I haven't really been looking either).
> --
> John Brock
> jbrock@panix.com

-- 

That is what I ment. Checking this couldn't hurt as it will allow PM to
manage the palette.

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From: jdos2@iname.com                                   12-Sep-99 05:15:20
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: RealAudio Problem

From: Jeff Sumner <jdos2@iname.com>

Look for multiple versions of WINSOCK.DLL on your DASD, especially in
the DOS paths, as the wrong one is a bad thing. The correct one will
probably be in the TCPIP_INSTALLED_DRIVE:\TCPIP\DOS\DLL and should be
referenced in the autoexec.bat. Worked for me!

JD

Martin Racette wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I've got a really weird problem with
> RealAudio, I can play local files
> correctly, but as soon as it has to go
> to the Internet for the data, my entire
> computer locks upnad I have to do a
> RESET to make the system work again.
>
> It was working about a month ago
> perfectly well, and a couple of days ago
> I tried it again and the problem
> started, I tried to re-install it
> several times to no avail
>
> My system is P-II Celeron 400Mhz with
> 128Mb RAM, Warp 4 FP11
>
> BTW. don't tell me that its FP11,
> because it was working OK shortly after
> I installed FP11
>
> //-------------------------
> Thank you in advance
>
> Merci a l'avance
>
> Martin
>
> http://205.237.57.73/

--
Friends don't let friends use Windows
Amigos nao permite seu amigos usar Janelas!



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From: nospam@nowhere.com                                12-Sep-99 05:43:16
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: SearchManager/2  Price

From: nospam@nowhere.com (Patrick)

Does anyone know how much IBM charges for this program - US Funds ?
Is it the best file indexing program for OS/2 ?

-- 
Patrick nospam@nowhere.com
09/11/99 23:42
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From: uno@40th.com                                      12-Sep-99 06:27:21
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: SearchManager/2  Price

From: uno@40th.com (uno@40th.com)

Last I heard, this went the way of the doodoo bird, back around the
time OS/2 Magazine folded (1996).  I mention that mag because they
were always writing how great it was, and how IBM didn't know how
to market it.  A few months later, the magazine itself was history.

Patrick? (nospam@nowhere.com?) wrote (12 Sep 1999 05:43:32 GMT):
>Does anyone know how much IBM charges for this program - US Funds ?
>Is it the best file indexing program for OS/2 ?

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 Corne1 Huth  -  http://40th.com/
 Bullet database engines/servers 3.1  Win32-WinCE-OS2-Linux+

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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                12-Sep-99 07:37:02
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 10:18:25
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <37DA5E22.CE6E96B4@my-deja.com>, luistino <luistino@my-deja.com> writes:
>Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
>> 
>> In <yNUQIMEW4Brk-pn2-vPGzdZ0ZmzIu@adsl-79-140-63.atl.bellsouth.net>,
milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao) writes:
>> 
>> >On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:44:26, Falko Tesch <falko.tesch@bigfoot.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Am 10.09.99, 10:23:15, schrieb hep@nospam.thanks zum Thema Netscape
>> >> Fonts:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi,
>> >>
>> >> > I'm using the latest Netcape 4.61 release, but the default fonts
>> >> > (1024x768 resolution) are not brilliant. Does any body have any
>> >> > suggestions for a more readable format ?
>
>>"snip"
>> 
>>    What I use is 8. Helv for the proportional font, and 6.
>> System VIO for the fixed font.  I have also been happy with
>> Swiss for a proportional font, but in general, Helv is the best
>> and most legible screen font.
>> 
>> baden
>> 
>> baden@unixg.ubc.ca
>> http://baden.nu/
>> OS/2, Solaris & Linux
>
>Baden,  what screen resolution are you running? Which video card?


   I am running 1280X1024 at 24 bpp on a Sony SE17 and a Matrox
Millennium 4 MB.

baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                12-Sep-99 07:56:19
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 10:18:25
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <yNUQIMEW4Brk-pn2-UppUCRLPgGdU@adsl-79-140-63.atl.bellsouth.net>,
milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao) writes:
>> >> > I'm using the latest Netcape 4.61 release, but the default fonts
>> >> > (1024x768 resolution) are not brilliant. Does any body have any
>> >> > suggestions for a more readable format ?
>> >> 
>> >I had the same problem and tried out the same solution, but Arial.8 
>> >just doesn't look as good as Helv.8.  Also, some pages like 
>> >http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml look absolutely terrible with 
>> >Arial.8
>> >
>> >Arial at any font size looks bad.   
>> >
>> >Did I mess up my installation of FreeType?  I tried installing twice. 
>> >No difference.  Fonts in Communicator on OS/2 are horrible.  How can I
>> >confirm that I really have FreeType installed?
>> 
>>    I really like my fonts in Communicator 4.61.  They are just
>> as good as, if not better than, the Window's ones.
>> 
>>    What I use is 8. Helv for the proportional font, and 6.
>> System VIO for the fixed font.  I have also been happy with
>> Swiss for a proportional font, but in general, Helv is the best
>> and most legible screen font.
>
>Can you see if you get the same results with the dejanews page 
>http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml.  Do a search and see the results 
>page too.
>
>If your results are good, what resolution are you running at?

   They look great, but I had to bump the size up twice
(Ctrl-]), and then twice again for the "results' page' as they
were originally too small.

>I'm running at 1152x864 on a Matrox Millenium with the 2.23.082 
>driver.

   I run 1280X1024 @ 24bpp with the same driver on a Sony SE17.

   I put partial screen shots on my site to see:
http://baden.nu/Captured.gif
http://baden.nu/Captured-2.gif



baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: cwr@cts.com                                       12-Sep-99 09:31:20
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 10:18:25
Subj: Re: SearchManager/2  Price

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Patrick <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:
: Does anyone know how much IBM charges for this program - US Funds ?
: Is it the best file indexing program for OS/2 ?

It's a superb program, but it's not what I'd call a file indexer.
It indexes words in files, not filenames.  Perhaps IB still have
a copy, but I doubt it.  It was about $70 when I bought it five or
six years ago.


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           12-Sep-99 06:51:16
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-kSgGZJizkSJo@localhost>, on 09/10/99 at 08:28 PM,
   doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

> > This would reduce the cost of each copy to around $75 per copy. The site
> > license is $39. The cost of copying the CD and shipping one each would
> > raise the end user price to $75 or so after adding the distributed cost of
> > forming a non-profit company, opening a bank account, etc.
> > 

> I support whatever you think is best. 

Thanks.

> I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an 
> "ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the  "company"),
> we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences  (should be
> even cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to  set up a site
> with the original disk, available on a FTP server  (password protected,
> so you need to pay your bucks to become a part of the "enterprise"). I
> suspect that there would be some legal thing to  prevent that, but it
> might be worth investigating. Perhaps BMT micro,  or IB would take that
> on (IB already sells site licenses etc.). After  all, even IBM wouldn't
> buy more than one copy of the CD (well, they  might, but they
> shouldn't), and would just make it available on their  intranet for all
> who need it.

> It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
> all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large 
> "enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any 
> "enterprise". (A COMMON share, gets you access to NAV, a PREFERED  share
> gets you access to OS/2, or something like that). All you would  need is
> a set of install disks that would get you connected to the  internet,
> and do a CID install of OS/2.

The idea has merit but also some problems. If done this way, it would be
very public and might arouse a suit against the enterprise, especially if
the enterprise also started selling Warp or tried to force IBM to update
Warp. Also, there are possible tax ramifications if it becomes successful.
With my basic idea, a small charitable non-profit corporation would be
much less likely to be the target of legal action by Symantec.

Also, an internet install of Warp would take a VERY long time on line.

> I am sure that the technical details can be worked out (the legal 
> details might be more difficult). There are a LOT of very knowledgable
> people in the OS/2 community. (Then again, why limit this to just the 
> OS/2 community, the more site licences we can get, the lower the cost 
> should be, and the software is already on the CD).

Now the possibility of tax and legal ramifications really comes to the
fore. As far as NAV is concerned, a Microslop user needs pay less than $30
for his very own copy.

> A great name for the company, would be "The Starship Enterprise", but  I
> am sure that there would be legal problems with that <g>.

For sure that would cause trouble. How about GFYS, Inc. The S is for
Symantec, the rest you can figure out for yourself. <GRIN>


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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 8
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           12-Sep-99 07:00:07
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <c1.2c.2S7rGZ$1QC@rhino_house.ibm.net>, on 09/10/99 at 07:13 PM,
   nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson) said:

> In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer
> <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> writes:

> Keep trying.  Symantec sent me the "Enterprise" CD for free  after I
> provided proof of ownership for IBMAV; they didn't even charge me for
> shipping so I know it is possible.

Two problems with this:

1. Those who want NAV and who didn't buy IBMAV are left out in the cold.

2. Those who did buy IBMAV years ago and cannot find the manual or
software are similarly out in the cold.

I fall into the second category. I used it for a couple of years before I
took down my BBS. I then felt it wasn't worth the overhead and stopped
using it. Then I moved my office and either discarded it along with
cartons (not boxes, big cartons) of "obsolete" software. Remember in the
good old days, programs came with real manuals frequently in slipcases. I
had multiple copies of every version of WordPerfect, Quatro Pro, DB2,
SuperKey, QEMM, Double DOS, PC-DOS 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, etc. I discarded 5
copies of OS/2 1.2, 5 of 1.3 enterprise, not to mention PCAnywhere,
Fastback Plus, Norton Utilities, etc., etc. Then there were the shareware
manuals for the BBS which filled more than 6 boxes which originally
contained 10 reams of paper each.

There is also the possibility that I  gave the software to a former
son-in-law who worked for me at one time. He did get one of my OS/2 Warp 4
packages since I only needed 3 when I moved and owned 7 and was still
married to one of my daughters. We had  six workstation machines and a
server at one time but now only run 4 with no server thanks to the
peer-to-peer networking of Lantastic which eliminated Novell (that I did
keep). If that's where it went, it's long gone since he's in prison.



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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 8
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: coville@localnet.com                              12-Sep-99 12:00:23
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: WTB: OS/2 Supersites CD wanted

From: coville@localnet.com (Brian)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:58:27, Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca> wrote:

>   I'd like to get the 4 CD set of the Superside OS2 CDROMS
> issued in March 1999.
> 				Daniel Say
> 				say@sfu.ca
> 				ancouver, Canada

OK, How about $25 US including shipping to Canada?

	Brian

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From: dcurren@ibm.net                                   11-Sep-99 06:59:16
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: quicken 99

From: "Dale Curren" <dcurren@ibm.net>

On 10 Sep 1999 21:53:35 -0500, Bill Clark wrote:

>Will Quicken run under winos2?

As I understand it,  Quicken98 is the last version that will run in winos2. 
It is 
also y2k compliant.


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From: mrb@nospam.net                                    12-Sep-99 10:04:26
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: "Mitch Rocks" <mrb@nospam.net>

> On <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-kSgGZJizkSJo@localhost>, on 09/10/99 at 08:28 PM,
>    doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

 > I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
 > "ENTERPRISE".

You are an Enterprise. Got a woody, Doug?  hah hah hah


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From: prather@infi.net                                  12-Sep-99 14:35:18
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: prather@infi.net (Jerry Prather)

Hi,

I've downloaded DB2 (both pecmn.zip and peen.zip), unzipped them
and installed DB2.  I've also created the sample database,
installed the documentation, and the control center.  I've even
downloaded and installed FP1.

Using the command line I can view the database.  Using direct
methods, I can view the HTML documentation.  However, the First
Steps object doesn't work.  If I click on (for example) View
Database, the disk drive whirrs for a little, then quits.  Almost
two minutes after the button has been pushed I get an error box
that pops up.  This says:

CLI0616E:  
[IBM][JDBC Driver] CLI0616E  Error opening socket SQLSTATE=08S01.

I probably have an ON/OFF switch in the OFF position, but haven't
been able to track down the problem.  Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
					- Me (circa 1998)

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From: esther@bitranch.com                               12-Sep-99 14:50:05
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: SearchManager/2  Price

From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:27:43, uno@40th.com (uno@40th.com) wrote:

| Last I heard, this went the way of the doodoo bird, back around the
| time OS/2 Magazine folded (1996).  I mention that mag because they
| were always writing how great it was, and how IBM didn't know how
| to market it.  A few months later, the magazine itself was history.

You're thinking of OS/2 Professional, edited by Edwin Black.

OS/2 Magazine, whose editor in chief was Alan Zeichick, never wrote 
about SearchManager/2.

--Esther Schindler
  past senior contributing editor, OS/2 Magazine
  technology editor, Sm@rt Reseller, http://www.zdnet.com/sr
  program chair, Phoenix OS/2 Society, http://www.possi.org -- 
publisher of the print magazine, _extended attributes_

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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      13-Sep-99 01:00:01
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:06:20, Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net> wrote:

> I just found out that TVFS is causing this. Which is strange, since other
> systems I have with TVFS do not behave like this. Still this maybe has
> something to do with the FP11 and/or DDFP1.
>  
> Any comments?

Do you have any network links to TVFS?

As I have the above setup and do not have any shutdown problems with TVFS.



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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           12-Sep-99 15:18:20
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2 doesn't work for me!!!!! Help!!!!!

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:24:30, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> I hope there is some recall that there are non-programmers who would like to 
use
> BootOS2.  Folks who might be good at surgery or blacksmithing, but not at
the
> guts of OS/2.
>  
> Jim L
> Remove XX from address to Email
> More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.
> 

Actually, that is one of the major problems with OS/2. It goes beyond 
the basic system operation, and gets into the area of computing where 
the user does need to know something about how computers work, in 
order to use it successfully. Unfortunately, IBM does not see much 
need to simplify things, and that is the main reason why OS/2 has 
never become a mainline OS.

The average Windows user doesn't know anything about computers, and 
doesn't want to know anything, except how to get games running, and 
how to get it to print a letter (don't get me wrong, there ARE a lot 
of very knowledgable Windows users). The big secret in the Windows 
world is that you just install it, and it configures itself in a such 
a way that it mostly works. OS/2, on the other hand, requires a LOT of
tweaking to get it to run properly.

Just my C$.03 ($.02 US)...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           12-Sep-99 15:18:21
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:51:32 -0400, Bob Germer wrote:

..snip...
>The idea has merit but also some problems. If done this way, it would
be
>very public and might arouse a suit against the enterprise, 
especially if
>the enterprise also started selling Warp or tried to force IBM to 
update
>Warp. Also, there are possible tax ramifications if it becomes 
successful.
>With my basic idea, a small charitable non-profit corporation would 
be
>much less likely to be the target of legal action by Symantec.

Yes, there are problems, but I think the technical problems could be
overcome quite easily.  One would need a password protected secure web
site (128 bit), and passwords on all of the products. Someone, like 
BMT
micro, could sell the licenses, and supply the appropriate passwords
(just about what they are doing now). The actual download, and 
install,
could use the CID method, after a user downloaded a basic set of
bootable diskettes, which would have enough code to get them connected
to the server. 

There is a user
-----------------------------------------------------------
askbill@ibm.net
William B. Hacker, III
Conducive Group (Asia) Limited    - Hong Kong
Conducive Logistics (EU) Limited   - London
-----------------------------------------------------------
who indicates that he doesn't think the legal problems would be all
that bad. The other problem would be that IBM (for sure), and 
Symantec,
would want a short list of "support" people who would be authorized to
talk to their support people, and who would support the rest of the
enterprise. This could be a problem, especially if multiple languages
are supported, which would be required for world wide support.

>Also, an internet install of Warp would take a VERY long time on 
line.

It wouldn't be all that bad over a LAN connection, or with a cable
modem, but it would take forever at 28.8K. I suspect that the actual
OS/2 thing might be something that could happen in the future. 
Starting
with NAV, to prove the technique and to set a precedent, would be the
way to go. Then working up to other things as the technology, and the
resources become available, would be a good idea. In fact, it might be
better to start with some other program(s), from friendly companies,
just to set the precedent.

..snip...
>Now the possibility of tax and legal ramifications really comes to 
the
>fore. As far as NAV is concerned, a Microslop user needs pay less 
than $30
>for his very own copy.

Yes, it would be better if an OS/2 friendly company, who is already in
the software business, could do it, even for profit. The MUCH better
solution would be if Symantec (and IBM) would smarten up and just
supply their (supported) product on an individual basis.

..snip...
>For sure that would cause trouble. How about GFYS, Inc. The S is for
>Symantec, the rest you can figure out for yourself. <GRIN>

We could call it Microsoft (again, legal problems), for all I care 
<g>.
As long as they support OS/2.

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>Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
>Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 8
>MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
>Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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>
>

******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           12-Sep-99 15:18:21
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:07:18, Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net> 
wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I just installed a fresh Warp 4 system and installed FP11 and Device
> Driver FP1 on it (plus some other stuff). Now the system will not
> shutdown properly (i.e. will not finish the shutdown procedure)
> requiring a hard reboot. The same happens with C-A-D. After reboot then
> the whole checkdisk enchilada is run.
> 
> Anyone else experiencing this 'feature'?
> 
> Sacha
> 

I haven't seen your symptoms, but there is a program that is supposed 
to tell you what is happening during shutdown (Sorry, I don't remember
the details). You should be able to find it in the OS/2 supersite 
files, somewhere. (http://www.os2ss.com)

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: fruskoNOSPAM@ibm.net                              12-Sep-99 09:40:06
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 16:39:11
Subj: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

From: "Frank Rusko" <fruskoNOSPAM@ibm.net>

Hello

Does anyone know the new address and or phone number of Jason
Rushton?

The last known phone number of his in Whitby Ont has been in use
by another party and they do not know of his new number or his
e-mail address. I have heard that there is an update to 1.72 and
I am trying to get a hold of him for obvious reasons.

If anyone can help, please e-mail me directly.

Thank you all in advance


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From: no.spam@no.spam.org                               12-Sep-99 17:20:10
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:01:29
Subj: Re: DB2 v6 - having problems with userid/password

From: "Cornelis Bockem?hl" <no.spam@no.spam.org>

On 5 Sep 1999 21:25:41 GMT, Jerry Prather wrote:

>In message <37D2D58E.82588C8E@bcs.org.uk> - Tim Timmins
><tim.timmins@bcs.org.uk> writes:
>:>
>:>Did you try 'userid' and 'password' ?
>:>
>Bingo!  At least it got me past the password problem...
>
Hmm, interesting: Didn't work for me, and I was struggling also very
long already! I suspected the fact that I am using a german language
version of the OS and of DB2, so I tried some possible translations -
nothing...

I found the solution somewhere completely different: You don't have
to enter the id/pw from the DB2 installation, but from your local
network! If you are on a standalone machine (like me) it can take you
quite a while to find out which id/pw you entered possibly years ago
when you initially installed the OS/2 system, but I got it right
after just a couple of tries...

So I suppose that some people just enter "userid" and "password"
always if they have to enter a id/pw pair - and that doesn't seem to
be such a bad idea in cases where you really do not need the two at
all (like when installing your "local network" on a strictly
standalone computer.)

Greetings,
Cornelis

>Thanks much,
>
>Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net
>
>"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
>for."
>					- Me (circa 1998)
>

--------------------------------------------
Cornelis Bockemhl, Dornach, Switzerland
e-mail: cbockem AT datacomm DOT ch
(use this instead of antispam reply address)
PGP public key available



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From: jan.hartman@fil.lu.se                             12-Sep-99 10:32:18
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:01:29
Subj: Trouble with ISDN adapter

From: "Jan Hartman" <jan.hartman@fil.lu.se>

Hi!

I have trouble gettin my external Eicon Diva T/A ISDN Modem to work
in Warp 4. It works fine in Win98. Does anyone have any idea what
could be wrong? I am using the standard dialer which comes with
os/2, and I have had other ISDN adapters to work just fine.

/ Jan Hartman



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From: edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com                       12-Sep-99 11:19:14
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:01:29
Subj: Re: Zoom 2975 PC Card Modem (w/Lucent Chipset)?

From: Edward Jaffe <edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com>

Jerry Prather wrote:
> 
> Yes, I've got it working on my ThinkPad 390e.  I had absolutely
> no problems installing it and getting it to work.  It needs no
> driver at all (although the PCMCIA slots need a card director
> driver to be useful for anything).  Just plug it into the slot
> and assign it to a serial port.  Adjust InJoy (in my case) for
> the settings of the modem, and you're off to the races.
> 
> The secret is, the 2975 is not a WinModem; it is a _real_ modem.
> Only WinModems require drivers.  That is why they lose.

Are you *SURE* the ZOOM 2975 you are using has the Lucent chipset???
ZOOM also made a 2975 with a Rockwell chipset that works just fine
without special drivers. The Lucent ones have an "L" in the serial
number.

-- 
| Edward E. Jaffe                  | Voice: (310) 338-0400 x318     |
| Mgr., Research & Development     | Fax:   (310) 338-0801          |
| Phoenix Software International   | edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com    |
| 5200 W. Century Blvd., Suite 800 | USS24J24 at IBMMAIL            |
| Los Angeles, CA 90045            | http://www.phoenixsoftware.com |

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From: theller9@earthlink.net                            12-Sep-99 11:15:19
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Need to retrieve free PRM 3.0 license #

From: "Thomas A. Heller" <theller9@earthlink.net>

I managed to lose the license number Dan Porter
posted for free downloads of PostRoad Mailer 3.0
(and now his announcement in this newsgroup is
gone.)

Can anyone provide that number to me?  Thank you.

(After installing PRM to my G:\ drive and then
moving it to E:\, I now encounter errors in posting
notes to the Sent Notes folder.  So I decided to
reinstall onto E:, but now I don't have the license
number to set it up as a permanent application.) 

Also, any hints to this (newbie)newsgroup user as to
how I can "uncover/retrieve" Dan Porter's now-gone
post?  (I seem to hear that Deja.news archives
everything.)

In case my Respond To: address here contains some
nospam string, my real e-mail address is
<helle05@ibm>

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          12-Sep-99 18:52:19
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Re: SearchManager/2  Price

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:50:10, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) a 
crit dans un message:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:27:43, uno@40th.com (uno@40th.com) wrote:
> 
> | Last I heard, this went the way of the doodoo bird, back around the
> | time OS/2 Magazine folded (1996).  I mention that mag because they
> | were always writing how great it was, and how IBM didn't know how
> | to market it.  A few months later, the magazine itself was history.
> 
> You're thinking of OS/2 Professional, edited by Edwin Black.

He tried to call it "Bloodhound" I believe.

Interestingly, and sadly, Black is quoted in a new bio about Lou Gerstner, 
basically his standard criticism of IBM's marketing practices prior to 
Gerstner. They do identify him properly as Editor of "OS/2 Professional" 
and count it as one of the references to "OS/2 Operating System" in the 
index, but the book says nothing whatsoever about OS/2. Useless. So save 
your money and skim it in an easy chair at B&N as I did. (How is amazon.com
going to replace that service, I wonder?)

Evidently while he was at RJ Reynolds, Gerstner gave the greenlight (and 
budget) to run with Joe Camel, unless I got my details wrong in my free 
skimming. He jumped ship in 1993 just as his options became cashable, but 
without having to stand up and lie in front of Congress along with the rest
of the tobacco CEOs.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca                           12-Sep-99 12:56:13
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca

In <c1.2b5.2S8Nxk$08v@geocities.com>, on 09/11/99 
   at 11:15 PM, jpedone_no_spam@flash.net said:

>In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer
><bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> writes: >On
><9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-SdMNbMs42God@localhost>, on 09/09/99 at 11:42 PM, >  
>fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk) said:
>>

>>
>>One, and the one I am leaning toward, is to file a breach of contract suit
>>against Symantec based upon the press releases issued at the time they
>>took over IBM's antivirus product. Possibly IBM would also have to be a
>>party defendant to the suit since otherwise Symantec could claim, in
>>defense, that IBM wanted them to eliminate the SOHO and individual user
>>after promising support, applications, etc. for OS/2 which induced us to
>>buy the OS in the first place.
>>
>>It would not cost nearly the price of the CD and 10 licenses for an
>>individual to file a suit. If a dozen or so do it at the same time, the
>>suits would be combined into a class action on behalf of all purchasers of
>>OS/2.

I haven't been able to see the beginning of this thread, so maybe I've
missed something. Symantec has just announced it's going to include an
OS/2 client version in it's next release of the Norton  AntiVirus program.
(I saw it in Focus on OS/2 ezine). Why is everybody pissed off at
Symantec? This sounds like a positive development.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               12-Sep-99 13:07:25
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Re: Need to retrieve free PRM 3.0 license #

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

"Thomas A. Heller" wrote:

> I managed to lose the license number Dan Porter
> posted for free downloads of PostRoad Mailer 3.0
> (and now his announcement in this newsgroup is
> gone.)
>
> Can anyone provide that number to me?  Thank you.

Taken directly from the Press Release issued by Dan
Porter of InnoVal Systems:

If you distribute the Post Road Mailer you must also distribute
a serial number to allow a user to activate the product. You
may use a serial number you received from us in the past (for
release 3.0), or you may use serial number 31571728. You
may also post serial numbers in newsgroups and websites.

> (After installing PRM to my G:\ drive and then
> moving it to E:\, I now encounter errors in posting
> notes to the Sent Notes folder.  So I decided to
> reinstall onto E:, but now I don't have the license
> number to set it up as a permanent application.)
>
> Also, any hints to this (newbie)newsgroup user as to
> how I can "uncover/retrieve" Dan Porter's now-gone
> post?  (I seem to hear that Deja.news archives
> everything.)

This is the official press release issued Sat. Aug. 28, 1999:

   Effective immediately, InnoVal Systems Solutions, Inc. is
   withdrawing the following products from marketing and
   support.

   Post Road Mailer for OS/2
   J Street Mailer for Java
   Web Willy Watch for OS/2

   Anyone may download free copies of these products from
   our online store at http://stores.yahoo.com/innoval. In
   addition, anyone may freely distribute executable copies of
   the software through online software repositories and
   websites. You are encouraged to do so because we will only
   be able to keep them in our online store for a limited time. If
   you distribute the Post Road Mailer you must also distribute
   a serial number to allow a user to activate the product. You
   may use a serial number you received from us in the past (for
   release 3.0), or you may use serial number 31571728. You
   may also post serial numbers in newsgroups and websites.
   Online orders, for these specific products, placed with us
   during the last sixty days, have not been processed and
   customers credit cards have not been charged. These
   orders will be cancelled and customers are free to keep and
   use the downloaded code that they received when they
   placed their order.

   For me, personally, this is a sad day. Our company tried to
   hang in as long as possible with OS/2. OS/2 is still my favorite
   platform and OS/2 customers are the best customers our
   company ever had. I have made many good friends through
   my associations with all of you. You'll still see me popping in
   at OS/2 users group meetings throughout the country when
   my travels coincide with a meeting.

   Our company continues to do very well. The consulting side
   of the business has always been strong. The most exciting
   area of business, however, is Iceptur. Iceptur is our new
   Internet filtering software for the Windows 95/98/NT platform.
   Despite the fact that there are over two hundred competitors
   in this market niche, we are experiencing phenomenal
   success. This is partly because of the unique technology we
   developed and partly because there is a strong demand for
   high quality Internet filtering solutions (release 2.0 will hit the
   streets by September 5th). We have entered into a number of
   strategic alliances with several companies to market Iceptur
   and license the underlying technology for use in other
   products.

   I need, now, to focus all of InnoVal's resources on Iceptur and
   our consulting business. I tried, during the past year, to
   juggle resources but in doing so was not doing the right kind
   of job for our customers, the OS/2 community at-large,
   InnoVal's employees, or InnoVal's owners. You made the Post
   Road Mailer into the number one email client for OS/2. You
   worked with us on J Street Mailer as we tried to negotiate a
   platform independent course with Java. You have my thanks
   and the thanks of everyone at InnoVal.

   We are moving on to bigger things, but not better. OS/2 was
   better and (oh, how I wish) it could have been big.

   Thanks again,

   Dan Porter, President
   InnoVal Systems Solutions, Inc.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                12-Sep-99 16:41:11
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: BOOTOS2 doesn't work for me!!!!! Help!!!!!

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>OS/2, on the other hand, requires a LOT of
>tweaking to get it to run properly.

Let's not get carried away.  I have OS/2 running fairly smoothly and I've only
been using it for about 7 years! ;-)

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: bdavis@fn.net                                     12-Sep-99 20:58:25
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Need to retrieve free PRM 3.0 license #

From: bdavis@fn.net (Brian Davis)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:15:39, "Thomas A. Heller" <theller9@earthlink.net> 
wrote:

> I managed to lose the license number Dan Porter
> posted for free downloads of PostRoad Mailer 3.0
> (and now his announcement in this newsgroup is
> gone.)
> 
> Can anyone provide that number to me?  Thank you.
> 
> (After installing PRM to my G:\ drive and then
> moving it to E:\, I now encounter errors in posting
> notes to the Sent Notes folder.  So I decided to
> reinstall onto E:, but now I don't have the license
> number to set it up as a permanent application.) 
> 
> Also, any hints to this (newbie)newsgroup user as to
> how I can "uncover/retrieve" Dan Porter's now-gone
> post?  (I seem to hear that Deja.news archives
> everything.)
> 
> In case my Respond To: address here contains some
> nospam string, my real e-mail address is
> <helle05@ibm>
> 
Go deja.com and do a power search.

Enter Keywords: Dan Porter

Limit Search
	Match: all
	Archive: complete
	Results type: discussions
	Language: (it's up to you)
	Subject: (leave blank)
	Forum: *os2*
	Author: Dan Porter
	Dates: (leave blank)

Organize Results
	Sort by: date
	Results per page: (leave it set at default of 25)

or
http://www.deja.com/qs.xp?ST=PS&QRY=Dan+Porter&defaultOp=AND&DBS=1&OP=dnque
ry.xp&LNG=english&subjects=&groups=*os2*&authors=Dan+Porter&fromdate=&todat
e=&showsort=date&maxhits=25

His post is the second one listed. Use deja.com, it's your second best
tool behind OS/2. 

Brian Davis (bdavis@fn.net)

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From: prather@infi.net                                  12-Sep-99 21:15:11
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Zoom 2975 PC Card Modem (w/Lucent Chipset)?

From: prather@infi.net (Jerry Prather)

In message <37DBEEB0.97965E45@phoenixsoftware.com> - Edward Jaffe
<edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com>Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:19:28 -0700
writes:
:>
:>Jerry Prather wrote:
:>> 
:>> Yes, I've got it working on my ThinkPad 390e.  I had absolutely
:>> no problems installing it and getting it to work.  It needs no
:>> driver at all (although the PCMCIA slots need a card director
:>> driver to be useful for anything).  Just plug it into the slot
:>> and assign it to a serial port.  Adjust InJoy (in my case) for
:>> the settings of the modem, and you're off to the races.
:>> 
:>> The secret is, the 2975 is not a WinModem; it is a _real_ modem.
:>> Only WinModems require drivers.  That is why they lose.
:>
:>Are you *SURE* the ZOOM 2975 you are using has the Lucent chipset???
:>ZOOM also made a 2975 with a Rockwell chipset that works just fine
:>without special drivers. The Lucent ones have an "L" in the serial
:>number.

I can't find a serial number, but the card says Model 2975L. 
Besides, the outer carton it came in said it had a Lucent chipset
(whatever that's worth <shrug>).  The internal modem on the 390
_is_ a WinModem Lucent chipset.  That's why I bought the 2975.


Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
					- Me (circa 1998)

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From: anon@anonymous.co.uk                              12-Sep-99 22:16:02
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Acrobat Reader at 256 colours

From: anon@anonymous.co.uk (Steve)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:27:50 -0600, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>
wrote:

>Do you have palette switching enabled? Without that the app is forced to
>use colors assigned by PM and this does not always look good.
<snip>


'Fraid I had already tried that but it made no difference. As I said
the beta version of 3.0 is fine so I'm not sure what they've altered
in the released version.

One of files that affects the toolbar buttons is ACROCRPM.DLL
In the beta we have ACROCRPM.DLL at 1,500,173 bytes
In the released version ACROCRPM.DLL is 1,509,901 bytes

In the release version the help fiile
(ACROBAT3\READOS2\HELP\READER.PDF can be viewed ok
If I try and use the beta version to read it the beta crashes (window
disappears) but the toolbar buttons appear fine.

If I copy the ACROCRPM.DLL of the release version over the beta
version and start Acrobat, I can read the help file fine, the toolbar
buttons are also ok APART form the fact that the text selection, zoom
in and hand buttons have swapped positions with the page, bookmark and
page, and thumbnails and page buttons. 

THIS IS VERY WIERD !.

You say 256 colours is fine for you. What setup do you have ?.

I'm running...
Warp 3.0 + FP40
S3 Trio 64V2 card
1024x768 @256 colours

The beta is "Beta 1 Sep 17 1996"
The release version I downloaded from Adobe's site
says "Version 3.0 May 16 1997"
"AGM Version 1.32"
"PFS Version 02.002a 3/27/96"
"Core Version 3.0 May 16"
(all that from the Help/About box and clicking on the Adobe symbol)

I know we probably don't have the same hardware but how about software
?. Have you got a later version of the reader than me ?.

Steve

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From: sprins@businessnet.net                            13-Sep-99 00:51:12
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>


Khairil Yusof wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:06:20, Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net> wrote:
>
> > I just found out that TVFS is causing this. Which is strange, since other
> > systems I have with TVFS do not behave like this. Still this maybe has
> > something to do with the FP11 and/or DDFP1.
> >
> > Any comments?
>
> Do you have any network links to TVFS?

Nope.

> As I have the above setup and do not have any shutdown problems with TVFS.

I found out that after killing TVCTL with either a killer or TVKILL then a
reboot works. So I have a workaround. I find it odd, but maybe it's the SCSI
device driver for my harddisk, or the bios, or I don't know what that is
causing this.

Sacha


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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          12-Sep-99 23:07:14
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Need to retrieve free PRM 3.0 license #

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:15:39, "Thomas A. Heller" <theller9@earthlink.net> 
wrote:

:any hints to this (newbie)newsgroup user as to
:how I can "uncover/retrieve" Dan Porter's now-gone
:post?  (I seem to hear that Deja.news archives
:everything.)

 Everything but binaries.

-- 
Anthropomorphic Hamburger

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From: dboultr@spamfree.erols.com                        13-Sep-99 00:26:13
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Need to retrieve free PRM 3.0 license #

From: dboultr@spamfree.erols.com

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:15:39, "Thomas A. Heller" 
<theller9@earthlink.net> wrote:

> (After installing PRM to my G:\ drive and then
> moving it to E:\, I now encounter errors in posting
> notes to the Sent Notes folder.  So I decided to
> reinstall onto E:, but now I don't have the license
> number to set it up as a permanent application.) 

This is easy to fix without re-installing.

Go to the PRM's settings notebook (under the File menu) and go to the 
"compose" tab.  The third entry down should say "default folder."  
Click on the "find" button and then click on the " sntnotes" folder.

Doug Boulter

To reply by e-mail, remove the obvious spam traps from the address

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From: arelyea@vt.edu                                    12-Sep-99 19:43:21
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu>

>   There are still more OS/2 text and HTML editors that
>probably will do the same, either for free or low-cost.

Like EPM (Enhanced Editor).  Warp supplies a version, but a better version is
available on Hobbes.  It is one of my favorite multi-purpose editors.  It
allows multiple files, with rings.  Enourmous undo feature, html, rexx, c,
and many other syntax highlighting.  Configurable in almost every way.  Plus,
no appended ASCII characters.

Tony.



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From: !2020hindsight@usa.net                            12-Sep-99 21:39:20
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: quicken 99

From: !2020hindsight@usa.net (Bill Clark)

Dale Curren wrote:

> >Will Quicken run under winos2?
  
> As I understand it,  Quicken98 is the last version that will run in winos2.  
It is 
> also y2k compliant.

Thanks to _all_ who replied...  

-bc-
 
User Friendly Software:
  That which makes friends among those trying to use it
	

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From: ctompset@7cities.net                              12-Sep-99 19:26:18
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: db2 installation problem

From: "Clark Tompsett" <ctompset@7cities.net>

I've downloaded all the parts for DB2 includeing VA Java.  In trying to
install DB2, I only get as far as the screen saying that it sees netbios and
thats where it stops.  I have to kill the process.  All the boxes except help
are grayed out and if you leave the window, you cannot reselect it.  The
installation process does not show up in the task list.  Watchcat or
rebooting is the only way to kill the installation process.

Does anyone know what is causing this and how to get the installation process
working??

Thanks in advance,
Clark


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From: imwechs@ibm.net                                   12-Sep-99 22:51:04
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:23
Subj: Innoval Betrays Web Willy Watch Customers!!!

From: "Ira M. Wechsler" <imwechs@ibm.net>

  I purchased Web Willy Watch on-line 6 weeks ago. But
do to a network glitch could NOT download it. I notified
Innoval about by voicemail 3 times and by leaving messages with their
answering service another 3 times.
They NEVER responded. Their email system has been
down for at least 2 months now. 
  NOW that they publicly released WEB WILLY WATCH
for os/2 , it is totally UNUSEABLE. You can not activate
it without access to Webwilly.com/initialize. That web site
has been down for whop knows how long.  Some jerks
have been saying you can get the program to work by
not filling in the web browser information, but that simply
is false.  
   I have asked Innoval to refund my $20 or put up the
web page, but they will not respond to me . I have seen
numerous similar complaints from others. What is the 
quickest most expeditious way to bring them to their
knees and do the right thing to their loyal customers???


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From: dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org                     13-Sep-99 02:39:03
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: db2 installation problem

From: "Darin McBride" <dmcbride@no.tower.spam.to.org>

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:26:37 -0600 (MDT), Clark Tompsett wrote:

>I've downloaded all the parts for DB2 includeing VA Java.  In trying to
>install DB2, I only get as far as the screen saying that it sees netbios and
>thats where it stops.  I have to kill the process.  All the boxes except help
>are grayed out and if you leave the window, you cannot reselect it.  The
>installation process does not show up in the task list.  Watchcat or
>rebooting is the only way to kill the installation process.
>
>Does anyone know what is causing this and how to get the installation process
>working??

Not entirely sure what is causing it.  How to work around it is:

set DB2INSTALLNODETECT=NETBIOS

Then run the install from that command session.  Note that you'll have to
manually set up NetBIOS afterwards (or install the Client Configuration
Assistant and use it to help set up the NetBIOS communications).  Of course,
if you only want to use TCP/IP, then don't worry about setting it up
afterwards.
---
I am currently speaking on behalf of my company.


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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   12-Sep-99 22:55:24
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Innoval Betrays Web Willy Watch Customers!!!

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <vzjrpufvozarg.fhz9990.pminews@news1.ibm.net>, on 09/12/99 
   at 10:51 PM, "Ira M. Wechsler" <imwechs@ibm.net> said:

>  NOW that they publicly released WEB WILLY WATCH
>for os/2 , it is totally UNUSEABLE. You can not activate
>it without access to Webwilly.com/initialize. That web site has been
>down for whop knows how long.  Some jerks
>have been saying you can get the program to work by
>not filling in the web browser information, but that simply is false.  

Porn-busting aside, I thought the incorporated web-sucking features to
be worth $20.  And then I douwnloaded the freebie and installed it 1
year later, just in case there were fixes. And it installed, after a
burp or two.

Well, if I'm a jerk, I'm one who is using WWW. 

Advice to IMW: Become one of the people you call a jerk. For money, I'll 
send/ you screen shots. (privately).

Most folk in your position would have used the credit-card stop-payment
or charge reversal. And the vendor would have yielded. 

Sure your real complaint isn't that you paid infinitely more than if you
had waited?

-- 
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DemostiX
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From: milindr@bellsouth.net                             13-Sep-99 03:12:18
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Netscape Fonts

From: milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)

> >>    What I use is 8. Helv for the proportional font, and 6.
> >> System VIO for the fixed font.  I have also been happy with
> >> Swiss for a proportional font, but in general, Helv is the best
> >> and most legible screen font.
> >
> >Can you see if you get the same results with the dejanews page 
> >http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml.  Do a search and see the results 
> >page too.
> >
> >If your results are good, what resolution are you running at?
> 
>    They look great, but I had to bump the size up twice
> (Ctrl-]), and then twice again for the "results' page' as they
> were originally too small.
> 
> >I'm running at 1152x864 on a Matrox Millenium with the 2.23.082 
> >driver.
> 
>    I run 1280X1024 @ 24bpp with the same driver on a Sony SE17.
> 
>    I put partial screen shots on my site to see:
> http://baden.nu/Captured.gif
> http://baden.nu/Captured-2.gif

With a font size of Helv.10, the page looks a lot better for me, 
although still not as good as it does on yours.  I also have to set it
to use "Document Specified fonts, including dynamic fonts", to make it
look better.  The problem with Helv is that sometimes, esp. on 
Dejanews, parts of the text don't show up.  In another thread, it was 
pointed out that using Times New Roman instead of Helv fixes the 
problem.  Unfortunately, Times New Roman doesn't look as good as Helv.

Regards
Milind

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From: milindr@bellsouth.net                             13-Sep-99 03:14:26
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

From: milindr@bellsouth.net (Milind Rao)

> Does anyone know the new address and or phone number of Jason
> Rushton?
> 
> If anyone can help, please e-mail me directly.

Also, please post here.  If there is an update to FTPBrowser, I'm sure
many of us would like to know.

Regards
Milind

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From: whonea@codenet.net                                12-Sep-99 22:28:24
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:40:13, "Frank Rusko" <fruskoNOSPAM@ibm.net> 
wrote:

Last email I have is jrushton1@home.com.  If you manage to rattle his 
cage, tell him to surface briefly - he might just dell a few programs 
<g>.  Still the best I've used.

> Hello
> 
> Does anyone know the new address and or phone number of Jason
> Rushton?
> 
> The last known phone number of his in Whitby Ont has been in use
> by another party and they do not know of his new number or his
> e-mail address. I have heard that there is an update to 1.72 and
> I am trying to get a hold of him for obvious reasons.
> 
> If anyone can help, please e-mail me directly.
> 
> Thank you all in advance
> 
> 


Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: whonea@codenet.net                                12-Sep-99 22:28:24
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Need to retrieve free PRM 3.0 license #

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:15:39, "Thomas A. Heller" 
<theller9@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I managed to lose the license number Dan Porter
> posted for free downloads of PostRoad Mailer 3.0
> (and now his announcement in this newsgroup is
> gone.)
>  
> Can anyone provide that number to me?  Thank you.

First, try Help->Product Information on the installed copy - Serial # 
should be there. It's also in the Postroad.INI file in Postroad 
directory.  I keep losing things like that so I always check for other
places to find it. The number I use is 31571728.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: mikelrob@flash.net                                13-Sep-99 04:46:07
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: ASUS P5 MB; Warp can't find printer

From: mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson)

	The subject pretty well says it.  I've got a new system with an ASUS 
P5 SuperSocket 7 motherboard.  It has built in parallel and serial 
ports.  The serial ports get recognized but the parallel port doesn't.
 Anyone know what might be happening?

	Michael Robertson

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From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca                           12-Sep-99 22:18:14
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Word 97 filters available for Word Pro?

From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca

Hello.

Can anyone tell me if the current Lotus SmartSuite has filters to be able
to read Word 97 files?

I'm trying to change my system over to all OS/2 and I'm trying out the
Lotus beta version, but it doesn't understand what the attachment says is
"application msword base64".

If not, is there an aftermarket filter to convert Word 97 to Lotus Word
Pro files?

Can Star Office read Word 97?

Thanks, Bob 
-- 
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rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca
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From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca                           12-Sep-99 22:08:29
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Lotus WordPro and Word'97 Filters

From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca

Hello.

I'm trying to move all my applications back over to OS/2 from another OS.

I've been trying out the Lotus WordPro beta to see if it can handle my
needs for publishing a newsletter, as well as a general purpose word
processor.

It  doesn't seem to be able to understand a MS Word file - I don't know
for sure which version, but in the email attachment it says application
msword base64.

The latest version of word that WordPro claims to understand is Word 7 for
Win 95. Does the Lotus SmartSuite presently available have filters for
later versions of Word, or is there an after market converter available?

Too many people I correspond with use versions of MS Word, and that is
what I get manuscripts in.

Bob.
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From: rhb@accessv.com                                   13-Sep-99 06:06:13
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Word 97 filters available for Word Pro?

From: "Rob Burton" <rhb@accessv.com>

SO51 reads Word97 files (and the rest of Office 97). It's a work-alike, too.

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:18:29 -0700, rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca wrote:

|Hello.
|
|Can anyone tell me if the current Lotus SmartSuite has filters to be able
|to read Word 97 files?
|
|I'm trying to change my system over to all OS/2 and I'm trying out the
|Lotus beta version, but it doesn't understand what the attachment says is
|"application msword base64".
|
|If not, is there an aftermarket filter to convert Word 97 to Lotus Word
|Pro files?
|
|Can Star Office read Word 97?
|
|Thanks, Bob 
|-- 
|-----------------------------------------------------------
|rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca
|-----------------------------------------------------------
|



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From: jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es                       13-Sep-99 08:36:11
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: DATMAN software under os/2?

From: jmandres <jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es>

elmar schmeisser wrote:

> Assembled gurus:
>
> Corresponding with Kan Yabumoto of Pixelab, Inc.
> (http://www.datman.com), he writes:
>
> "We heard a year or so ago that some OS/2 experts succeeded in running
> DATMAN-DOS under OS/2.  But, we do not have details.."
>
> Deja-news does not catalog any such occasion.  The relevent item seems
> to be that DATMAN-DOS uses a real mode driver for aspi :
>
> "That is, DATMAN-DOS is a TSR which behaves very much like MSCDEX.EXE
> both of which are "Network Redirector" in order to assign a drive letter
> to the system and all file I/O API goes through the pretty much
> "undocumented" INT 2FH."
>
> Does anyone have any imformation on this?
>
> thanks
> --
> p.s. this server gets only about 30% of the news posts.  E-mail in
> parallel to
> elmar.schmeisser@hedo.brooks.af.mil would be greatly appreciated.
>
> - elmar
> --

I obtained the same response. Trying to use DATMAN on OS/2 led me to
Ctrl-Alt-Del.
--
J os Manuel Andrs Gimeno
Instituto de Carboqumica, CSIC
Mara de Luna 12   Tfn.:  +34 976 733977
50015 - Zaragoza   Fax.: +34 976 733318
ESPAA / SPAIN

e-mail: jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es   or   jmandres@tornado.icb.csic.es


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From: sprins@businessnet.net                            13-Sep-99 10:26:24
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>


Doug Bissett wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:07:18, Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I just installed a fresh Warp 4 system and installed FP11 and Device
> > Driver FP1 on it (plus some other stuff). Now the system will not
> > shutdown properly (i.e. will not finish the shutdown procedure)
> > requiring a hard reboot. The same happens with C-A-D. After reboot then
> > the whole checkdisk enchilada is run.
> >
> > Anyone else experiencing this 'feature'?
> >
> > Sacha
> >
>
> I haven't seen your symptoms, but there is a program that is supposed
> to tell you what is happening during shutdown (Sorry, I don't remember
> the details). You should be able to find it in the OS/2 supersite
> files, somewhere. (http://www.os2ss.com)

I'll search for 'shutdown' on Hobbes abnd other archives. That should do the
trick I think.

Sacha


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From: C.J.@btsoftware.com                               13-Sep-99 11:05:23
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Check out : DCITU

From: "C.J." <C.J.@btsoftware.com>

DCITU 
********
Digital Camera Image Transfer Utility
This program allows images to be transferred from various digital
cameras to an OS/2-based computer. The transfer is accomplished
using the standard serial port cable usually supplied with the camera.

Check it out and download DCITU for a free trial period from:
http://www.btsoftware.com/os2/dcitu.htm


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From: david.beck@dial.pipex.com                         13-Sep-99 10:01:15
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: SearchManager/2  Price

From: david.beck@dial.pipex.com

In <09990811234101.OUI08.nospam@nowhere.com>, nospam@nowhere.com (Patrick)
writes:
>Does anyone know how much IBM charges for this program - US Funds ?
>Is it the best file indexing program for OS/2 ?
>
If you can find a copy of Lotus Domino Go web server (the last release was
4.6.5),
SM is the search engine used and probably can be used without the web server.

This should be a free download.

Another choice is search hobbes for "swish" this engine has less function
but you get the source.

Dave Beck

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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           13-Sep-99 10:07:19
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Printing from GSView hangs machine

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

I am using Warp 4, FP7, GSView 2.7, GS 5.10

When I try to print from GSView to my HP Laserjet 1100, it works fine ...
once. The second time it hangs the machine solid, beyond reach of anything
but the Big Red Switch.

Help!

Ian

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From: bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net                        13-Sep-99 05:57:07
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

> Peter Moylan wrote:

> > Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net> wrote:

> > >Anyone know a way to make it stop appending ACSII 26 to the end of an
> > >HTML file?

> > I'm pretty sure you can't.  Luckily there are plenty of other
> > editors around.
 
> I know I looked at patching it to do this. I can't remember whether I
> succeeded or not now. Will look when I get home...

Any luck?
-- 
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes
wisdom.                Proverbs 11:2 NKJV

 Team OS/2

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net


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From: bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net                        13-Sep-99 06:02:12
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>

DG wrote:
> 
> In message <slrn7tgvro.pd.peter@eepjm.newcastle.edu.au> -
> peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan) writes:
> 
>  <=Luckily there are plenty of other editors...=>
> 
>    ...such as SmallEditor, Boxer and Kon, all shareware...
> plus Mr Edit [prog name change?] and also the "WebWriter"
> HTML editor, which are both offered now as freeware. All 5
> editors will allow writing of an HTML text file w/o the
> end-of-file marker.
>    There are still more OS/2 text and HTML editors that
> probably will do the same, either for free or low-cost.

They're not free if installing them to take the place of E.EXE requires
hours of research to find WPS association objects to change and to
discover how to reconfigure to default to the replacement.

I like E. It's simple and has only the one bothersome flaw in that web
pages display the character as a box and validators object to it
following the HTML.
-- 
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes
wisdom.                Proverbs 11:2 NKJV

 Team OS/2  ***  Rotary ONLY since 1973

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net <- Not just a FAQ


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From: rsstan@ibm.net                                    13-Sep-99 06:41:15
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: Lotus WordPro and Word'97 Filters

From: "Bob Stan" <rsstan@ibm.net>

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:08:59 -0700, rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca wrote:

>Hello.
>
>I'm trying to move all my applications back over to OS/2 from another OS.
>
>I've been trying out the Lotus WordPro beta to see if it can handle my
>needs for publishing a newsletter, as well as a general purpose word
>processor.
>
>It  doesn't seem to be able to understand a MS Word file - I don't know
>for sure which version, but in the email attachment it says application
>msword base64.
>
>The latest version of word that WordPro claims to understand is Word 7 for
>Win 95. Does the Lotus SmartSuite presently available have filters for
>later versions of Word, or is there an after market converter available?
>
The Lotus 1.1 version does read Word97 files.  I haven't used the feature a
lot, but it seems to do okay on formatting unless there are a lot of graphics
in the document.

Star Office also reads Word97 and is free at the moment.


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From: stan@hashkedim.com                                13-Sep-99 11:11:25
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:05
Subj: Re: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

From: stan@hashkedim.com (Stan Goodman)

When I first registered FTPBrowser Rushton failed to get the registration 
key back to me, so I had to find him by telephone and jog his "memory" (to 
be kind). I fouind him at 1(905)571-6320. The last email address I have for
him is "rushton@rogers.wave.ca". I have no idea, of course, if these are 
later than the addresses you have for him, or if they are still valid. 
Please, if you find him, let me know too; I am much more comfortable with 
the knowledge that I can get hold of these people if I need them. I would 
also like to upgrade the program, if there is indeed an upgrade, although I
do not experience bugs with the present version.


On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:40:13, "Frank Rusko" <fruskoNOSPAM@ibm.net> wrote:

> Hello
> 
> Does anyone know the new address and or phone number of Jason
> Rushton?
> 
> The last known phone number of his in Whitby Ont has been in use
> by another party and they do not know of his new number or his
> e-mail address. I have heard that there is an update to 1.72 and
> I am trying to get a hold of him for obvious reasons.
> 
> If anyone can help, please e-mail me directly.
> 
> Thank you all in advance
> 
> 

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach
me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.




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From: mcbrides@erols.com                                13-Sep-99 07:12:13
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:05
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride)

In article <37DCB548.80782E0@businessnet.net>,
Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net> wrote:
>
>
>Doug Bissett wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:07:18, Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I just installed a fresh Warp 4 system and installed FP11 and Device
>> > Driver FP1 on it (plus some other stuff). Now the system will not
>> > shutdown properly (i.e. will not finish the shutdown procedure)
>> > requiring a hard reboot. The same happens with C-A-D. After reboot then
>> > the whole checkdisk enchilada is run.
>> >
>> > Anyone else experiencing this 'feature'?
>> >
>> > Sacha
>> >
>>
>> I haven't seen your symptoms, but there is a program that is supposed
>> to tell you what is happening during shutdown (Sorry, I don't remember
>> the details). You should be able to find it in the OS/2 supersite
>> files, somewhere. (http://www.os2ss.com)
>
>I'll search for 'shutdown' on Hobbes abnd other archives. That should do the
>trick I think.
>

You could alos grab a copy of WATCHCAT and see/kill the application that isn't
allow the shutdown... you could go to a command line prompt and execute:
SHUTDOWN and see if that helps...


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*
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From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu                          13-Sep-99 12:55:04
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: Word 97 filters available for Word Pro?

From: klcroxen@fas.harvard.edu (Kevin Croxen)

Commercial version 1.1 allegedly provides Word 97 filtering. 

Otherwise, a doable workaround which many use is in winos2 to run M$'s 
Word 97 filter for win3.1 (free dl from M$ web site).
This utility will read the Word 97 file (once the name is made 8.3), 
and the file may then be copy'n'pasted in its entirety into Word Pro
 (or whatever)

--Kevin


On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:18:29 -0700, rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca
 <rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca> wrote:
>Hello.
>
>Can anyone tell me if the current Lotus SmartSuite has filters to be able
>to read Word 97 files?
>
>I'm trying to change my system over to all OS/2 and I'm trying out the
>Lotus beta version, but it doesn't understand what the attachment says is
>"application msword base64".
>
>If not, is there an aftermarket filter to convert Word 97 to Lotus Word
>Pro files?
>
>Can Star Office read Word 97?
>
>Thanks, Bob 
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>

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From: pandpATibm.net                                    13-Sep-99 10:31:28
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: "Philip Nelson" <pandpATibm.net>

This is probably due to the fact you need to set up an entry for localhost in
your /mptn/etc/hosts file.

Add the record

127.0.0.1    localhost

Reboot and try it again.

I found that if this wasn't set then the DB2 Java apps have difficult finding
the JDBC server.

Once I set this everything works fine.

Phil Nelson
Ipandp@ibm.net)

On 12 Sep 1999 14:35:36 GMT, Jerry Prather wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I've downloaded DB2 (both pecmn.zip and peen.zip), unzipped them
>and installed DB2.  I've also created the sample database,
>installed the documentation, and the control center.  I've even
>downloaded and installed FP1.
>
>Using the command line I can view the database.  Using direct
>methods, I can view the HTML documentation.  However, the First
>Steps object doesn't work.  If I click on (for example) View
>Database, the disk drive whirrs for a little, then quits.  Almost
>two minutes after the button has been pushed I get an error box
>that pops up.  This says:
>
>CLI0616E:  
>[IBM][JDBC Driver] CLI0616E  Error opening socket SQLSTATE=08S01.
>
>I probably have an ON/OFF switch in the OFF position, but haven't
>been able to track down the problem.  Any help would be
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net
>
>"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
>for."
>					- Me (circa 1998)
>



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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  13-Sep-99 14:13:18
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: Lotus WordPro and Word'97 Filters

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I'm trying to move all my applications back over to OS/2 from another OS.
>
> I've been trying out the Lotus WordPro beta to see if it can handle my
> needs for publishing a newsletter, as well as a general purpose word
> processor.

Not sure about a WordPro beta but certainly SSOS2 1.1.x appears to be
fairly flexible in reading (and to an arguably lesser extent -
exporting) most Word97 docs.
Having said that, with M$ proclivity for making things particularly
difficult for competitors products to interface with their own I
would suggest obtaining the latest free (16 bit) Wordviewer to double
check any MS Word doc formats exported from SS WordPro.

> It  doesn't seem to be able to understand a MS Word file - I don't know
> for sure which version, but in the email attachment it says application
> msword base64.

So the email "helper" is looking for MSWord to fire up to read this?
Base64 is simply the alternative(to Uuencode) encoding that allows a
binary attachment to be effectively transported via a basically
ascii/html orientated email system.
You need to either save this as a *.doc  from within your emailer as an
interim step and then invoke SS to read it......   or ingeniously change
the associations to the "helper" to invoke WordPro.exe instead of
word.exe.

> The latest version of word that WordPro claims to understand is Word 7 for
> Win 95. Does the Lotus SmartSuite presently available have filters for
> later versions of Word, or is there an after market converter available?

Ahh.... obviously this "beta" you refer to is capped at Office95 level
then?
The remainder of above question already answered in part....... but
basically yes to both.
I've seen various utilities offered (from shareware to commercial) that
do all or part of this although apart from WordView I've had no need to
remember them specifically as SSOS2 functionality in this regard appears
to be adequate(within limitations generalised on below) for the moment.
:-(
Perhaps Office2000 will change that however.    :-(

> Too many people I correspond with use versions of MS Word, and that is
> what I get manuscripts in.

Sad but true......  but we have to (presumably) follow the path of least
resistance(...is futile etc....<vbg>) and  not insist on requesting
Lotus format or conversely insisting on sending lwp to known Word (ab)
users<g>.
Although, having said that, and  having just converted(and tested) my CV
in lwp format translation to doc I note that the Word file size is 30Kb
compared to 100kb for WordPro equivalent?.
Thus if you have a lot of complex tables,frames (and macro's) I suspect
that you might find the portability issues somewhat time consuming to
work-around?
Specifically in some such cases the Word doc may look entirely different
in SS than in native M$ (or WordView). Eg It may look very "presentable"
in SS97 but be totally screwed when viewed in MS Word or WordViewer.
(Whether this is M$ deliberately or inadvertently sabotaging its filters
or simply Lotus not being a very Smart Sweety is probably irrelevant to
the discussion here<g>)

Even simple things like Page numbering tween divisions (aka sections in
Word) are handled differently....   so don't naively expect to have a
seamless translation/filtering capability that works in all scenarios
without some manual intervention and/or comprises in format.
I suspect(but can't speak from personal experience) that StarOffice
handles this better perhaps than Smartysuite....?

As much as I applaud and support your efforts to migrate to a superior
OS/2 operating system and a superlative Lotus OS/2 native app(hopefully
and thus also ignoring the potential argument about "native" possibly
excluding this OpenDoor port<g>),  you will have to evaluate the not
insignificant monetary costs(as well as manual effort) of Smartsuite 
compared to a far cheaper equivalent of say StarOffice (and with a 3rd
party translation utility even WordPerfect and Describe perhaps?)
.....or, Deity forbid, the ultimate emabarrassment of having to
capitulate and "swim with the tide" by sticking with WinXX! (but that
may be the most practical and cost/time effective option for purely
business reasons if we can forget our more OS/2 centric "emotive"
objections....<g>).

Don't forget the obvious restriction in any package on any OS platform:
as(or if) the WP format is changed/enhanced tween versions then it is
reliant on the original vendor( or 3rd party) to "expediently" produce
an optional add-in filter that you have to specifically-
1. Know it exists, it's availabilty and location.
2. Actually apply it (logistically not always insignificant when an
enterprise has standardised on one version but needs to also interact
with external bodies with different versions<g>).
3. Be aware as above of any co/pre-req Fixpaks,service patches and/or
font, other limitations that may only become apparent after some
considerable testing or time....

A salutary example of 2. above is when a cooporate decides to
incrementally "roll-out" a OS2 (or even W95 whatever) migration to NT4
and has concentrated (understandably) so much time/effort on
network,server(and sometimes even a token effort at training<g>) but
forgotten to phase in(or just ran out of time) a pre-req roll-out of
Wordview first together with temporarily "disabling" Word97 export
filter on its new NT4 installs until a more prudent time!
Thus significant support costs are subsequently expended (often again on
an individual per call basis) retrospectively applying WordView or
disabling Word97 until roll-out is eventually completed.
This is almost akin to a pernicious (but ultimately) unstoppable
virus<g>....
(not to mention the unintentional macro / polymorphic / stealthed ones
that M$'s incompetency with it's early 97 beta introduced<vbg>).  Apart
from a crude attempt to "bait" my respected friend Steve d'B<vbg> it's
only mentioned as a further item to factor in when
contemplating/evaluating the potential unseen "payload" and it's
associated risks of using a de-facto WP format.
So don't ignore your AV updates/methodology..... and at the risk of
appearing to further provoke Steven, I have never personally yet
experienced a Lotus lwp/sam macro virus that has proliferated, whereas
Word (normal.dot) macro virus's can be endemic in organisations with
less than hygenic AV and handling precautions..... (given the
statistical inaccuracy of appearing to directly compare two products
with totally different market penetrations even in a cooporate
environment).

So "pitching" your decision at solely Word97 portability is only one
small part of this evaluation exercise IMO....  depending on the initial
"price" you more importantly have to assess how likely the chosen
vendor(or 3rd parties) will effectively support your eventual
application throughout time  versus requirements to still
support(translate or continually migrate) critical legacy documents
remaining on your system (or your customers / suppliers /
colleagues)......
Word97 is purely one of many "stepping stones" until that illusive far
off utopian time when we are all "forced" towards relinquishing our
"choice" and having to use a common M$ dictated OS....
......or alternatively M$ is "re-educated" towards complying with agreed
industry standards(even it own<g>) rather than constantly deviating( or
"enhancing" then, for any sensitive M$ lovers<g>) in order to
de-stabilise it's competitors and limit the consumer's practical choice.

> Bob.
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca
> -----------------------------------------------------------



--
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"

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From: sprins@businessnet.net                            13-Sep-99 16:22:29
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>


Jerry McBride wrote:

> You could alos grab a copy of WATCHCAT and see/kill the application that
isn't
> allow the shutdown... you could go to a command line prompt and execute:
> SHUTDOWN and see if that helps...

That's what I do now. With a process killer (or the TVFS supplied TVKILL) I
kill
the problematic app and then shutdown or reboot safely. A workable workaround.

Sacha


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From: prather@infi.net                                  13-Sep-99 15:41:23
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: prather@infi.net (Jerry Prather)

In message <cnaqcvozarg.fi05p90.pminews@news2.ibm.net> - "Philip
Nelson" <pandpATibm.net>Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:31:57 +0100 (BST)
writes:
:>
:>This is probably due to the fact you need to set up an entry for localhost
in
:>your /mptn/etc/hosts file.
:>
:>Add the record
:>
:>127.0.0.1    localhost
:>
:>Reboot and try it again.
:>
:>I found that if this wasn't set then the DB2 Java apps have difficult
finding
:>the JDBC server.
:>
:>Once I set this everything works fine.
:>
:>Phil Nelson
:>Ipandp@ibm.net)

Hi Phil,

Went to the mptn/etc directory, but there was no "host" file. 
What should have created this?  What kind of extension would a
host file have?  Right now I am on an entirely standalone machine
and have no immediate intention to go to a network.  VA Java is
not yet installed.

Thanks for your help,


Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
					- Me (circa 1998)

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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 13-Sep-99 16:45:22
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:02
Subj: Re: ASUS P5 MB; Warp can't find printer

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

You could try setting the PP in the bios as a standard type.  Its
probably been set to ECP.  ECP should work anyway, but its worth a
shop with the standard setting

Craig

mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) wrote:

>	The subject pretty well says it.  I've got a new system with an ASUS 
>P5 SuperSocket 7 motherboard.  It has built in parallel and serial 
>ports.  The serial ports get recognized but the parallel port doesn't.
> Anyone know what might be happening?
>
>	Michael Robertson

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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 13-Sep-99 16:48:18
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: Printing from GSView hangs machine

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

I've not seen this behaviour with Ghostview and use it a lot, so its
probably not a problem there.

What I have experienced is some mighty weird problems with printer
drivers being partially installed, or paritally uninstalled.

In particular, the 1100 driver is a bit weird (tried printing Arial
font with it?  yuck!).

deinstall the printer, then check to make sure that the printers spool
and driver directories have been deleted.  Theres a nifty tool on
www.kellergroup.com which checks printer assignments.

As I've said, I'm not keen on the 1100 driver currently available, so
you may prefer to use a 6L or for even better compatibility a LJ III
driver.  It works (though only at 300DPI).

Craig
engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston) wrote:

>I am using Warp 4, FP7, GSView 2.7, GS 5.10
>
>When I try to print from GSView to my HP Laserjet 1100, it works fine ...
>once. The second time it hangs the machine solid, beyond reach of anything
>but the Big Red Switch.
>
>Help!
>
>Ian

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          13-Sep-99 17:13:04
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:02:24, Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net> a 
crit dans un message:
> > 
> >    ...such as SmallEditor, Boxer and Kon, all shareware...
> > plus Mr Edit [prog name change?] and also the "WebWriter"
> > HTML editor, which are both offered now as freeware. All 5
> > editors will allow writing of an HTML text file w/o the
> > end-of-file marker.
> >    There are still more OS/2 text and HTML editors that
> > probably will do the same, either for free or low-cost.
> 
> They're not free if installing them to take the place of E.EXE requires
> hours of research to find WPS association objects to change and to
> discover how to reconfigure to default to the replacement.

Hours? Seconds. Just copy the replacement directly on top of \OS2\E.EXE, 
and you'll swap in the replacement in all the old associations. This is 
what I routinely do with Mister ED when I do a new Warp Install.

> 
> I like E. It's simple and has only the one bothersome flaw in that web
> pages display the character as a box and validators object to it
> following the HTML.

Just one of E's most aggravating faults, in my opinion. With no saving 
graces at all. But to each his/her own.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: gmcleod@idirect.com                               13-Sep-99 13:20:15
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: OS2 PDF software

From: "gordon mcleod" <gmcleod@idirect.com>

Is there  software that is native OS2 to generate PDF files


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                13-Sep-99 13:53:02
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: OS/2 DOS hot-to

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

How on earth do I run a 13 MB DOS program under OS/2?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           13-Sep-99 18:00:10
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:56:26, rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca wrote:

> I haven't been able to see the beginning of this thread, so maybe I've
> missed something. Symantec has just announced it's going to include an
> OS/2 client version in it's next release of the Norton  AntiVirus program.
> (I saw it in Focus on OS/2 ezine). Why is everybody pissed off at
> Symantec? This sounds like a positive development.
>  

Haven't seen that anouncement. Hope it's true. We are pissed off 
because it was not available, to the single OS/2 user,  in the same 
way as that it was available to the single <pick your op system, 
except OS/2> user, on day ONE (which was also announced, when IBM 
turned over the reins to Symantec).

So, do we "wait and see" (again), or do we take action to protect our 
interests???

I always liked the IBM AV, it WORKED, and it did NOT impact the system
operation very much (most of the time, you couldn't tell it was doing 
anything at all). I know that the Win98 version of NAV does impact 
system operation, significantly more than the IBM AV does. I just hope
that NAV for OS/2 can step up to the standards set by IBM AV.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: noway@all.to.spam                                 13-Sep-99 19:14:23
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: EPM : REXX syntax highlighting.

From: "Bill Scarlett" <noway@all.to.spam>

Since a rebuild of my system some time back, I realise that I have lost the
ability to edit a REXX program with syntax highlighting.  I have various add
on packages for EPM but I cannot remember how to make this work.  I suspect
it is something *very* simple :-(

Can anyone help, please.
	Bill Scarlett, (retired, so no business spam needed :-)

	bill@eldwick.u-net.com


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From: snberk@ibm.net                                    13-Sep-99 10:37:19
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: Re MRICE AND BUDDY ATTACKS

From: "seth berk" <snberk@ibm.net>

What the heck, I can't resist...  First of all, I usually find what
Buddy says useful and I like reading his posts (even if I don't agree
with them).  So Buddy, please realize that I am doing this out of the
sheer enjoyment of starting whole new, off topic (my apologies to the
bandwidth gods) arguement.  

JC was  born *not* 2000 years ago (counting from either the beginning
or end of the year 2000).   The details are a bit fuzzy in my memory
banks, but the essential facts are still in place.  

The calendar the Romans adopted in the couple of centuries after JC
(Gregorian?) had the wee problem of not being 365 days long.  After a
few centuries of use the powers that be  finally acknowledged that
there was a serious problem, as the harvest holidays were happening
in spring, the planting holidays in the winter etc...  They had also
lost a few years in the process.  This was  actually not a huge
problems as the farmers were planting and harvesting when needed,
screw the dates, *but*...  the Church had no idea  now when Easter
was supposed to be celebrated (which seemed to be big problem). 
Easter is on weird calendar anyway because if follows the lunar
cycle, and you have to add a month to the date something like 5 times
every 17 years, except when the year has a full moon that happens on
the day the swallows of Capistano return.  Its a strange cycle.  So
the Church hired a priest/monk? called Denis the Short (I'm pretty
sure it was the Short, I know it was a term that would have been
silly if it had been affixed to Peter or Alexander) to figure out
when Easter was supposed to fall.  Somewhere in here the Julian
Calendar was adopted which at least minimised the drifting of the
dates over the centuries.  Dennis went to work and over the course of
time worked out when Easter was supposed to be celebrated currently,
and for a number of years in the future.  He also calculated the
weird calendar backwards and concluded that it was in fact a
repeating cycle (until then they had thought that the adustments were
not repeating) , and that the beginning of the cycle was just about
when they figured ole' JC was born.  They didn't really know JC's
birth year because they had changed calendars,adjusted calendars and
used just plain  inaccurate calendars (every wonder why the root of
September is 7, October 8, November 9, and December 10?) that they
had no idea how many years it was since JC.  Dennis figured that the
start of the cycle was year zero, or one, because it doesn't really
matter, because he was wrong.  Using historical events as described
in the New Testament and referencing them to the histories and
archives of cultures who *knew* how to keep an accurate calendar,
archeologists (and biblical scholars of several strains) have figured
out that JC's birthday is off by 3 to 6 years.  I forget which way,
but you either have a few more years to wait, or it has already
happened and nobody noticed.  (Just as an aside - there was a
doomsday prophet that kept predicting the end of the world.  Had alot
of press 'cause he was so colourful.  Everytime the date passed the
press would confront him to get his reaction, and an explanation. 
The first time the angels or aliens or whatever had changed their
minds.  The second time he had "misinterpreted" the signs, etc.  The
last time the world did not end on schedule he claimed that in fact
the world had indeed been  terminated - but nobody had noticed!!)

Just  a couple more thoughts - I am not as sure about these
statements being fact, but they do fit in with things I am sure of -
orginally Xmas had been placed on the Winter Solstice to compete with
the Pagan winter holiday, and New Years was then slated 10 days
later, when JC whould have had his Bris (Jewish circumcision).  Due
to that pesky calendar problem, Xmas drifted a bit from the 21st to
the 25th, but New Years stayed put.

fearing the lightening from the skies now...

Seth
snberk@ibm.net

 
>
>And hell, the Rapture's on it's way, right? (Though I can't bring myself to
>believe that Jesus can't count the number of years since he was born, so it
>won't be till the *END* of 2000, not the beginning.)
>
>
>Good luck,
>
>Buddy
>
>Buddy Donnelly
>donnelly@tampabay.rr.com
>
>



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From: cmhall@umich.edu                                  13-Sep-99 18:26:07
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: OS2 PDF software

From: cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall)

In <tzpyrbqvqverpgpbz.fi0di70.pminews@bigmomma.idirect.com>, "gordon mcleod"
<gmcleod@idirect.com> writes:
>Is there  software that is native OS2 to generate PDF files
>
>

Ghostview, but there are limitations on fonts.

Chris Hall  (cmhall@umich.edu)
Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan
"They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results
they expect, sometimes they don't."   from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.


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From: cmhall@umich.edu                                  13-Sep-99 18:29:24
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: OS/2 DOS hot-to

From: cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall)

In <37dd3a1e$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes:
>How on earth do I run a 13 MB DOS program under OS/2?
>
>Jim L
>Remove XX from address to Email
>More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.
>
>

Is it DPMI, EMS, XMS? All are possible. If it's DPMI, just make sure the
VDM has enough memory allocated (session properties) and set the DPMI to
"enabled" rather than "auto".

Chris Hall  (cmhall@umich.edu)
Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan
"They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results
they expect, sometimes they don't."   from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.


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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               13-Sep-99 21:03:16
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Stan Goodman schrieb:

> Please, if you find him, let me know too; I am much more comfortable with
> the knowledge that I can get hold of these people if I need them. I would
> also like to upgrade the program, if there is indeed an upgrade, although I
> do not experience bugs with the present version.

Try switching to a directory with spaces in its name, you'll never see
the directory listing. That's one of the reasons I haven't bought a
license yet.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca                           13-Sep-99 19:19:09
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: Object Desktop 2 - Hacking the LNF

From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Robert Lalla (rlalla@stepnet.REMOVETHIS.de) wrote:
: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:30:36 -0400 (EDT), andrew g wrote:

: >I may be the only OD2 user to have made an LNF, judging
: >by the apathy I see around me and on Stardock's part. I

: Once when OD2-fp1 came out I installed it.
: But then is was faced to frequent crashes of WPS.
: So I reinstalled ODpro1.5.

What about the fact that the sample LNF was made for VAC++ only? It's a
rather expensive product (at least by my budgets).

Some of us can code a little bit and especially with a nice example to
follow, but rely on the IDE to do the makefiles.
I bet if somebody could get the LNF kit working with gcc (and nice
instructions), you'd get a few more submissions.



Isaac

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From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca                           13-Sep-99 19:23:09
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: Word 97 filters available for Word Pro?

From: isaacl@bulls.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca wrote:
: Hello.

: Can anyone tell me if the current Lotus SmartSuite has filters to be able
: to read Word 97 files?

: I'm trying to change my system over to all OS/2 and I'm trying out the
: Lotus beta version, but it doesn't understand what the attachment says is
: "application msword base64".

: If not, is there an aftermarket filter to convert Word 97 to Lotus Word
: Pro files?

: Can Star Office read Word 97?


Word Pro from Smartsuite v1.1 (not v1.0) can read Word 97.
StarOffice has been able to do this as well.

I tried "converting" all my work documents with both and got varying
results. The format is generally kept in both cases and you'll certainly
have all the text, but whether StarOffice or WordPro is the better seems
to be a tossup depending on what the original document was like.
(Overall, I still prefer WordPro because StarOffice is sooooo bloated. But
it is free)

I will say that the Excel97 import feature in StarOffice is much better
than in 1-2-3.


Isaac

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               13-Sep-99 15:21:11
  To: cmhall@umich.edu                                  13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: OS/2 DOS hot-to

To: Chris Hall <cmhall@umich.edu>
From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Chris Hall wrote:
> In <37dd3a1e$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes:
> >How on earth do I run a 13 MB DOS program under OS/2?
> 
> Is it DPMI, EMS, XMS? All are possible. If it's DPMI, just make sure the
> VDM has enough memory allocated (session properties) and set the DPMI to
> "enabled" rather than "auto".

	Just as an additional note - if the application is using the VCPI
interface for accessing high memory, you're going ot be out of luck: 
due to the mechanism in which VCPI attempts to do direct access to CPU
registers, VCPI DOS program aren't supported by OS/2 (and never have
been).

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               13-Sep-99 15:21:22
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: OS/2 DOS hot-to

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Chris Hall wrote:
> In <37dd3a1e$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes:
> >How on earth do I run a 13 MB DOS program under OS/2?
> 
> Is it DPMI, EMS, XMS? All are possible. If it's DPMI, just make sure the
> VDM has enough memory allocated (session properties) and set the DPMI to
> "enabled" rather than "auto".

	Just as an additional note - if the application is using the VCPI
interface for accessing high memory, you're going ot be out of luck: 
due to the mechanism in which VCPI attempts to do direct access to CPU
registers, VCPI DOS program aren't supported by OS/2 (and never have
been).

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         13-Sep-99 19:58:20
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 19:48:26
Subj: Searching for a reference document

From: Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>

I'm looking for a specific reference document called:

Advanced Function Presentation IBM Print Services Facility for OS/2 - A
Guide to Using PSF/2.  Possibly part number g544-5225-00.

I really need to get my hands on this reference.  Apparently it was
supposed to come with our copy of the software, but we don't have it
(someone could have lost it, we've only just started supporting this
particular print server).

IBM tech guy told me to track down our sales rep, but I don't have a
clue who that might be or how to find him, and my boss isn't here to
ask right now.  So I thought it wouldn't hurt to see what I could find
out from the others out there. :)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: dink@dont.spam.me                                 14-Sep-99 04:08:06
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: StarOffice - restart download - how?

From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me>

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 03:00:25 GMT, hunters@thunder.indstate.edu wrote:

:Does wget support ftp re-get? I know Web-Explorer(of all software)
:supported re-get... Once got kicked off my modem (14.4k!) while working
:on a 30MB file transfer, and Web Explorer pick up from right where I
:left off. Boy was I happy!

Yea, use wget -c ftp://<whatever>


- dink ( http://dink.org )



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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    14-Sep-99 09:18:10
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:56:27, l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) wrote:

> Gee, directory names with spaces would be such a pain in the butt for 
> reasons having nothing to do with FTP Browser that it never dawned on me to
> make any. If that's the worst you can do, I feel even better about the 
> program.

OK< try retrieving a directory tree from another machine (the reason I
got it in the first place). It silently leaves bits out, or crashes.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      14-Sep-99 03:00:15
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-vGEt4Z3HYld3@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug
Bissett) writes:

>I always liked the IBM AV, it WORKED, and it did NOT impact the system
>operation very much (most of the time, you couldn't tell it was doing 
>anything at all). I know that the Win98 version of NAV does impact 
>system operation, significantly more than the IBM AV does. I just hope
>that NAV for OS/2 can step up to the standards set by IBM AV.

Well, the present release of NAV/2 takes longer to scan my system
than IBMAV did and sucks *a whole lot more* system resources 
while it does so.  But running it a 3AM when nobody's using the 
system makes it a moot point.

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: Rony.Flatscher@wu-wien.ac.at.NO_...               14-Sep-99 08:48:24
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: (1/2) Re: EPM : REXX syntax highlighting.

Message sender: Rony.Flatscher@wu-wien.ac.at.NO_SPAM

From: "Rony G. Flatscher" <Rony.Flatscher@wu-wien.ac.at.NO_SPAM>

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:14:47 +0100 (BST), Bill Scarlett wrote:

>Since a rebuild of my system some time back, I realise that I have lost the
>ability to edit a REXX program with syntax highlighting.  I have various add
>on packages for EPM but I cannot remember how to make this work.  I suspect
>it is something *very* simple :-(
>
>Can anyone help, please.
>	Bill Scarlett, (retired, so no business spam needed :-)
>
>	bill@eldwick.u-net.com

AFAIK you need to create a file called 'profile.erx' in the directory where
epm is located, containing the line (including the apostrophes):

  'toggle_parse 1 epmkwds.cmd'      -- Rexx Highlighting

After the signature you will find a customized version of 'epmkwds.cmd' which
highlights the OO-tokens of Object Rexx too.

Hope that helps,

---rony

------------------------ cut here: epmkwds.cmd
--------------------------------
@ -----------------------------------------------------------------
@ Sample of keywords file for the keywords hiliting feature of EPM
@ -----------------------------------------------------------------
@  This file is used by EPM to figure out which keywords to hilite
@  See EPMKWDS.C for additional documentation.
@
@ This file is a subset of the EPMKWDS.CMD provided by Richard Moore
@ and Neil Suffiel.  The TSO Rexx functions were deleted.  Their
@ package also adds support for toggling the color support from the
@ toolbar.  A copy of their package may be obtained (by IBM internal
@ users) by executing the VM command:
@    REQUEST RxColor from 86664603 at HONE
@ or
@    REQUEST RxColor from 86693454 at EHONE
@ -----------------------------------------------------------------
@
@  The background and foreground colors are values between 0 and 15
@  (see the EPM doc). If a value of -1 is given then the default
@  foreground or background color is used.
@
@  colors:      dark    name            light   (rgf-tabelle)
@               1       blau            9
@               2       gruen           10
@               3       cyan            11
@               4       rot             12
@               5       magenta         13
@               6       gelb            14
@               7       weiss           15
@               8       schwarz         16
@
@
@ -----------------------------------------------------------------
@ Actual description of the keywords
@ -----------------------------------------------------------------
@
@DELIM
@
@ Start   Color Color  End     Escape
@ string  bg    fg     string  character
@ /*       3    -1     */
  /*       8    15     */
@ (       -1    10     )
  "       -1     1     "
  '       -1     1     '
@
@SPECIAL
@
( -1 12
) -1 12
; -1 12
: -1 12
" -1 12
' -1 12
, -1 12
= -1 12
- -1 12
+ -1 12
\ -1 12
/ -1 12
* -1 12
 -1 12
< -1 12
> -1 12
% -1 12
| -1 12
 -1 12
& -1 12
~ -1 12
[ -1 12
] -1 12
@ -1 12
@
@CHARSET
@
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz_!?ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789.
@
@INSENSITIVE
@
@ -------------------Object REXX add-ons
additional              -1    12
all                     -1    12
any                     -1    12
arguments               -1    12
array                   -1    12
attribute               -1    12
caseless                -1    12
changestr               -1    12
class                   -1    12
commands                -1    12
continue                -1    12
countstr                -1    12
description             -1    12
error                   -1    12
external                -1    12
failure                 -1    12
forward                 -1    12
forever                 -1    12
guard                   -1    12
guarded                 -1    12
import                  -1    12
inherit                 -1    12
intermediates           -1    12
labels                  -1    12
lostdigits              -1    12
lower                   -1    12
message                 -1    12
metaclass               -1    12
method                  -1    12
mixinclass              -1    12
nomethod                -1    12
nostring                -1    12
novalue                 -1    12
off                     -1    12
on                      -1    12
over                    -1    12
private                 -1    12
propagate               -1    12
protected               -1    12
public                  -1    12
raise                   -1    12
reply                   -1    12
results                 -1    12
requires                -1    12
routine                 -1    12
subclass                -1    12
syntax                  -1    12
unguarded               -1    12
upper                   -1    12
user                    -1    12
use                     -1    12
var                     -1    12
@ -------------------Object REXX add-ons - frequently used environment symbols 
and names of messages
.alarm                  -1     9
.array                  -1     9
.bag                    -1     9
.class                  -1     9
.directory              -1     9
.environment            -1     9
.false                  -1     9
.list                   -1     9
.local                  -1     9
.message                -1     9
.method                 -1     9
.methods                -1     9
.monitor                -1     9
.nil                    -1     9
.object                 -1     9
.queue                  -1     9
.relation               -1     9
.rs                     -1     9
.set                    -1     9
.stem                   -1     9
.stream                 -1     9
.string                 -1     9
.supplier               -1     9
.table                  -1     9
.true                   -1     9
allat                   -1     9
allindex                -1     9
arrayin                 -1     9
arrayout                -1     9
at                      -1     9
available               -1     9
baseclass               -1     9
cancel                  -1     9
close                   -1     9
command                 -1     9
completed               -1     9
copy                    -1     9
current                 -1     9
defaultname             -1     9
define                  -1     9
delete                  -1     9
destination             -1     9
difference              -1     9
enhanced                -1     9
entry                   -1     9
first                   -1     9
firstitem               -1     9
flush                   -1     9
hasentry                -1     9
hasindex                -1     9
hasitem                 -1     9
hasmethod               -1     9
id                      -1     9
index                   -1     9
init                    -1     9
item                    -1     9
items                   -1     9
last                    -1     9
lastitem                -1     9
makearray               -1     9
methods                 -1     9
new                     -1     9
next                    -1     9
notify                  -1     9
objectname              -1     9
of                      -1     9
open                    -1     9
position                -1     9
previous                -1     9
put                     -1     9
qualify                 -1     9
query                   -1     9
querymixinclass         -1     9
remove                  -1     9
removeitem              -1     9
request                 -1     9
result                  -1     9
run                     -1     9
section                 -1     9
seek                    -1     9
self                    -1     9
send                    -1     9
setentry                -1     9
setguarded              -1     9
setmethod               -1     9
setprivate              -1     9
setunguarded            -1     9
start                   -1     9
state                   -1     9
string                  -1     9
subclasses              -1     9
subset                  -1     9
super                   -1     9
superclasses            -1     9
supplier                -1     9
undefine                -1     9
uninherit               -1     9
union                   -1     9
unknown                 -1     9
unsetmethod             -1     9
xor                     -1     9

SysAddFileHandle           -1 12
SysAddRexxMacro            -1 12
SysBootDrive               -1 12
SysClearRexxMacroSpace     -1 12
SysCloseEventSem           -1 12
SysCloseMutexSem           -1 12
SysCreateEventSem          -1 12
SysCreateMutexSem          -1 12
SysDropRexxMacro           -1 12
SysElapsedTime             -1 12
SysFileSystemType          -1 12
SysGetCollate              -1 12
SysLoadFuncs               -1 12
SysLoadRexxMacroSpace      -1 12
SysMapCase                 -1 12
SysNationalLanguageCompare -1 12
SysOpenEventSem            -1 12
SysOpenMutexSem            -1 12
SysPostEventSem            -1 12
SysProcessType             -1 12
SysQueryEAList             -1 12
SysQueryProcessCodePage    -1 12
SysQueryRexxMacro          -1 12
SysReleaseMutexSem         -1 12
SysReorderRexxMacro        -1 12
SysRequestMutexSem         -1 12
SysResetEventSem           -1 12
SysRmDir                   -1 12
SysSaveRexxMacroSpace      -1 12
SysSearchPath              -1 12
SysSetFileHandle           -1 12
SysSetIcon                 -1 12
SysSetObjectData           -1 12
SysSetPriority             -1 12
SysSetProcessCodePage      -1 12
SysShutDownSystem          -1 12
SysSleep                   -1 12
SysTempFileName            -1 12
SysTextScreenRead          -1 12
SysTextScreenSize          -1 12
SysWaitEventSem            -1 12
SysWaitNamedPipe           -1 12
SysWildCard                -1 12

@ -------------------OS2 REXX Utility Functions
RxFuncAdd                  -1 12
RxFuncDrop                 -1 12
RxFuncQuery                -1 12
RxMessageBox               -1 12
RxQueue                    -1 12
SysCls                     -1 12
SysCopyObject              -1 12
SysCreateObject            -1 12
SysCreateShadow            -1 12
SysCurPos                  -1 12
SysCurState                -1 12
SysDeregisterObjectClass   -1 12
SysDestroyObject           -1 12
SysDriveInfo               -1 12
SysDriveMap                -1 12
SysDropFuncs               -1 12
SysFileDelete              -1 12
SysFileSearch              -1 12
SysFileTree                -1 12
SysGetEA                   -1 12
SysGetKey                  -1 12
SysGetMessage              -1 12
SysIni                     -1 12
SysMkDir                   -1 12
SysMoveObject              -1 12
SysOS2Ver                  -1 12
SysOpenObject              -1 12
SysPutEA                   -1 12
SysQueryClassList          -1 12
SysRegisterObjectClass     -1 12
SysSaveObject              -1 12

@ ---------------SAA  REXX Keyword Instructions; rgf + modifiers
address                   -1  12
arg                       -1  12
by                        -1  12
call                      -1  12
do                        -1  12
drop                      -1  12
end                       -1  12
else                      -1  12
exit                      -1  12
expose                    -1  12
for                        -1  12
if                        -1  12
interpret                 -1  12
iterate                   -1  12
leave                     -1  12
name                      -1  12
nop                       -1  12
numeric                   -1  12
options                   -1  12
otherwise                 -1  12
parse                     -1  12
procedure                 -1  12
pull                      -1  12
push                      -1  12
queue                     -1  12
return                    -1  12
say                       -1  12
select                    -1  12
signal                    -1  12
then                      -1  12
to                        -1  12
trace                     -1  12
until                     -1  12
when                      -1  12
while                     -1  12
@ ----------------SAA REXX Functions
abbrev                    -1  12
abs                       -1  12
address                   -1  12
api                       -1  12
arg                       -1  12
bitand                    -1  12
bitor                     -1  12
bitxor                    -1  12
b2x                       -1  12
center                    -1  12
centre                    -1  12
compare                   -1  12
condition                 -1  12
copies                    -1  12
c2d                       -1  12
c2x                       -1  12
datatype                  -1  12
date                      -1  12
delstr                    -1  12
delword                   -1  12
digits                    -1  12
d2c                       -1  12
d2x                       -1  12
errortext                 -1  12
form                      -1  12
format                    -1  12
fuzz                      -1  12
insert                    -1  12
lastpos                   -1  12
left                      -1  12
length                    -1  12
max                       -1  12
min                       -1  12
overlay                   -1  12
pos                       -1  12
queued                    -1  12
random                    -1  12
reverse                   -1  12
right                     -1  12
sign                      -1  12
source                    -1  12
sourceline                -1  12
space                     -1  12
strip                     -1  12
substr                    -1  12
subword                   -1  12
symbol                    -1  12
time                      -1  12
trace                     -1  12
translate                 -1  12
trunc                     -1  12
value                     -1  12
verify                    -1  12
version                   -1  12
with                      -1  12
word                      -1  12
wordindex                 -1  12
wordlength                -1  12
wordpos                   -1  12
words                     -1  12
xrange                    -1  12
x2b                       -1  12
x2c                       -1  12
x2d                       -1  12
@ ----------------- OS2 Functions
beep                      -1 12
setlocal                  -1 12
endlocal                  -1 12
filespec                  -1 12
directory                 -1 12
linein                    -1 12
lineout                   -1 12

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From: Rony.Flatscher@wu-wien.ac.at.NO_...               14-Sep-99 08:48:24
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: (2/2) Re: EPM : REXX syntax highlighting.

Message sender: Rony.Flatscher@wu-wien.ac.at.NO_SPAM

lines                     -1 12
charin                    -1 12
charout                   -1 12
chars                     -1 12
stream                    -1 12
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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               13-Sep-99 19:18:09
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: UPDATED GUIDE: OS/2 On Your Aptiva Machine!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Updated today, Monday, September 13th, 1999:

Aloha!  John Twelker has updated his most excellent guide:
"PREPARING FOR AND INSTALLING OS/2 ON AN IBM APTIVA 
PRELOADED WITH WINDOWS 98."  Well written and easy to follow, 
this is the installation guide you can follow if you plan on buying or
already own an IBM Aptiva machine and want to install OS/2 on it!   

Bookmark the url!

Public url:  http://www.warpcity.com/os2aptiva.html

Tim Martin
http://warpcity.com
OS2Guy@WarpCity.com
-------------------------------------


Posted Using: J Street Mailer (build 99.1.9.pvk (19990912))

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From: Bill.Bob@deceptionPC.com                          14-Sep-99 07:16:04
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: I'm looking for

From: "Rodney D. Myers" <Bill.Bob@deceptionPC.com>

a program that will work with netscape, to continue downloading a file, if it 
stops/aborts/etc.

Is there any such beast?




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From: rlwalsh@packet.net                                14-Sep-99 17:49:11
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 20:40:17
Subj: Re: Searching for a reference document

From: rlwalsh@packet.net (Rich Walsh)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:58:40, Siobhan Perricone <morgannalefey@my-deja.com>
wrote:

> I'm looking for a specific reference document called:
> 
> Advanced Function Presentation IBM Print Services Facility for OS/2 - A
> Guide to Using PSF/2.  Possibly part number g544-5225-00.
> 
> I really need to get my hands on this reference.  Apparently it was
> supposed to come with our copy of the software, but we don't have it
> (someone could have lost it, we've only just started supporting this
> particular print server).
> 
> IBM tech guy told me to track down our sales rep, but I don't have a
> clue who that might be or how to find him, and my boss isn't here to
> ask right now.  So I thought it wouldn't hurt to see what I could find
> out from the others out there. :)

You may already have this in softcopy.  From the PSF/2 Online Ref:

  This user's guide has been provided for you as a printable file
  in both AFP and PostScript formats. (A Guide to Using PSF/2 is
  not provided as an online document.)
  The following files are located in the PSF2\PDOC subdirectory: 
      G5445225.AFP 
      G5445225.PS 

If you don't have these, you can get them from someone who has installed
Warp Server for e-Business (WSeB).  The .ps is 6mb and the .afp is 2mb.


   == == almost usable email address:  rlwalshATpacket.net == ==
___________________________________________________________________

		|             - DragText v3.1 -
Rich Walsh	|  A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement
Ft Myers, FL	|  New!  Pickup & Drop for text, and more...
		|  http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/
___________________________________________________________________

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From: Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com               14-Sep-99 18:49:18
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 20:40:17
Subj: Re: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

From: "Jan Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com>

>> > Please, if you find him, let me know too; I am much more comfortable with
>> > the knowledge that I can get hold of these people if I need them. I would
>> > also like to upgrade the program, if there is indeed an upgrade, although 
I
>> > do not experience bugs with the present version.
>> 
>> Try switching to a directory with spaces in its name, you'll never see
>> the directory listing. That's one of the reasons I haven't bought a
>> license yet.
>
>Gee, directory names with spaces would be such a pain in the butt for 
>reasons having nothing to do with FTP Browser that it never dawned on me to
>make any. If that's the worst you can do, I feel even better about the 
>program.

All people have different ways of using their systems. I can stand not being
able to use logical names: If OS/2 wouldn't be able to handle spaces in
filenames I wouldn't be able to use OS/2. I use WPS a lot so I can use
whichever character I want in a filename.

A good application NEVER PARSES FILE OR PATHNAMES. (I hope all developers
read that..). Not parsing file/pathnames allows the user use the system as
they want to.

Wouldn't it be neat with a picture viewer which wouldn't allow the letters
'e', 'a', 't' and the number 1 in the filename?

 /j



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From: noway@all.to.spam                                 14-Sep-99 20:43:09
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 20:40:17
Subj: Re: EPM : REXX syntax highlighting.

From: "Bill Scarlett" <noway@all.to.spam>

Thanks to Rony for the advice, which worked..


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          14-Sep-99 20:00:00
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 20:40:18
Subj: Re: OS2 PDF software

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:01:57, cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) a crit dans un
message:

> In <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-TK7dBh6ELLFg@yourmachine.yourlocaldomain.yourisp>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes:
> >On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:26:14, cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) a crit dans un
> >message:
> >
> >> In <tzpyrbqvqverpgpbz.fi0di70.pminews@bigmomma.idirect.com>, "gordon
mcleod" <gmcleod@idirect.com> writes:
> >> >Is there  software that is native OS2 to generate PDF files
> >> Ghostview, but there are limitations on fonts.
> >What limitations on fonts?

> 
> From the GS docs:
> 
> Limitations
> 
> The most serious limitation of ps2pdf is that text in any font other than
the
> fourteen Adobe base fonts (Courier, Times, and
> Helvetica families, Symbol, and Zapf Dingbats) is converted to bitmaps.
ps2pdf
> also may convert strings to bitmaps if the
> string is in one of those base fonts but contains a character that uses a
> non-standard encoding. 

I guess all things are relative. I consider this one of the strengths of 
the PDF format, that every PDF reader everywhere already has the same set 
of fonts installed locally, so I can create very portable printing files 
and know they will output everywhere looking the same as they do when I 
create them.

Anything I absolutely *have* to use non-GS-standard fonts on, and have set 
my GS_LIB, GS_FONTPATH, and FONTMAP locations properly, will be rasterized 
but as long as the output was black-and-white, these bitmaps compress 
pretty well when the PDF file is Zipped.

Font licensing issues can be very muddy, and you avoid them entirely with 
the current implementation of GS. I like the design choices that have been 
made, frankly, since they protect you automatically. If you decide to post 
a PDF file on a website, you know you won't receive one of those 8-pt typed
letters from the Adobe lawyers.

(And if you merely need to transmit a file to another location for 
printing, you can keep it in PS format.)


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: srd@x.mcmail.com                                  14-Sep-99 21:07:11
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 20:40:18
Subj: Re: StarOffice - restart download - how?

From: Steve Drewell <srd@x.mcmail.com>

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 at 10:32 GMT, Carsten Mller <cm@stardivision.de>
wrote:

>Steve,

>> so51_os2_01.exe (size 67843K according to Netscape status window)
>>
>> but the one on Sun's website is:
>>
>> so51a_os2_01.exe (size 66425K according to Netscape status window)
>>
>> Does anybody know what the difference is between these two versions 
>(51
>> and 51a)?

>so51a_*.* is the newer one. It's Sun's StarOffice 5.1a and it differs  a
>bit from the  old  Star Division StarOffice 5.1. For example, 5.1a 
>doesn't require a registration.

>So you should download a so51a_*.* file.


Should, but can't because I can't continue the download each time I get
disconnected. If I download the so51_os2_01.exe file from a more
user-friendly ftp site, will the registration info I received when I
registered version 5.0 work with version 5.1?

Cheers,
Steve
-- 
Steve Drewell             (Remove x. from address to reply)
_____________________________________________________________
Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 26 processes with 139 threads.
Machine uptime is 3 days, 21 hours, 7 mins and 21 secs.
_____________________________________________________________


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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      15-Sep-99 10:27:27
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:21
Subj: Re: OS2 PDF software

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:01:57, cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) wrote:

> Limitations

Hmm.. everytime I try to use PDFWRITE to print to a file (PDF) I get a SYS3171 

in GLD2DLL.DLL (if I'm not mistaken). It says I that I have a stack overflow.

Is there something in my settings that I need to set to fix this?

Thanks,
Khairil


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From: whonea@codenet.net                                14-Sep-99 19:41:21
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:21
Subj: Re: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:03:33, Christian Hennecke 
<christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:

> Try switching to a directory with spaces in its name, you'll never see
> the directory listing. That's one of the reasons I haven't bought a
> license yet.
 
It also goes into a deep coma trying to list directories where all the
files are hidden and the search function quit working but it's still 
very usable if you keep the limits in mind.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: letoured@sover.net                                14-Sep-99 21:37:02
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:21
Subj: Re: ColorWorks Updates Needed

From: letoured@sover.net

I think he is looking for the tutorials that are on the CD. -- I the ones
on Hobbs are antoerh set that isn't the same. -- I'd like the ones from
the CD too.




Richard Hevron wrote:

>> I need the tutorials and updates for Version 2.
>>
>> Can anyone please direct me to a site that might have them?
>>
>> Thanks.

>Everything you need and then some can be found here:

>http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/graphics/

>You'll want:

>accos25g.zip (updated accos25g.dll)
>cworkslessons1.zip (1.78Mb)
>cworkslessons2.zip (6.49Mb)
>cworkslessons3.zip (5.83Mb)
>cworkslessons4.zip (3.99Mb)
>cworkslessons5.zip (1.36Mb)
>v2mpatch.zip (Patch for Colorworksv2.0) (99.61Kb)

>If you use WGET you can open seven WGET windows
>and download everything at once.


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: whonea@codenet.net                                14-Sep-99 19:41:21
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:21
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:41:47, prather@infi.net (Jerry Prather) wrote:

> Went to the mptn/etc directory, but there was no "host" file. 
> What should have created this?  What kind of extension would a
> host file have?  Right now I am on an entirely standalone machine
> and have no immediate intention to go to a network.  VA Java is
> not yet installed.

Good point.  I found out - the hard way - that DB2 (and UDB) - expects
a 'HOSTS' (note the S) even if you don't use Netbios links.  We run a 
pure IP DB2 setup with TCP/IP and NETBIOS overTCPIP on the LAN and DB2
is the only thing that cares about that !@#$% HOSTS file!

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   14-Sep-99 23:40:05
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:21
Subj: IJW betray his ineptitude; Was:Innoval Betrays Web Willy Watch Customer

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <jnlargxonggarwc.fi2y1m0.pminews@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp>, on 09/14/99 
   at 10:39 PM, "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> said:

>Another jerk here too. It worked for me but hey what
>do I know?

>Pissed in Tokyo

>Wayne



>On 14 Sep 1999 03:53:34 GMT, dboultr@spamfree.erols.com wrote:

>:>On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 02:51:09, "Ira M. Wechsler" <imwechs@ibm.net> 
>:>wrote:
>:>
>:>> Some jerks
>:>> have been saying you can get the program to work by
>:>> not filling in the web browser information, but that simply
>:>> is false.  
>:>
>:>And I would be another of those jerks.  It works here. YMMV. Have a 
>:>nice day. Take your meds. 
>:>
>:>Doug Boulter

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)
DemostiX
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From: tabrown@nospam.ibm.net                            15-Sep-99 05:15:01
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: I'm looking for

From: tabrown@nospam.ibm.net (Tom Brown)

I use EmTec FTP from Em TecInnovative Software. It's part of the Em 
Tec Network Suite. Works great! Look on Hobbes for: 
/pub/os2/apps/internet/ftp/client/eftp506.zip 

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:16:09, "Rodney D. Myers" 
<Bill.Bob@deceptionPC.com> wrote:

> a program that will work with netscape, to continue downloading a file, if
it 
> stops/aborts/etc.
> 
> Is there any such beast?
> 
> 
> 
> 

Tom Brown
tabrown@nospam.ibm.net

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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             14-Sep-99 23:31:14
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rusko wrote:

>I have heard that there is an update to 1.72 and
>I am trying to get a hold of him for obvious reasons.
>
>If anyone can help, please e-mail me directly.

My understanding is that he has turned all registration and update
issues over to BMT Micro. Unless, of course, you happen to be on his
limited beta team. So if there's a publicly available update BMT sould
have it. 


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             14-Sep-99 23:37:17
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: Author of FTP Browser 1.71

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:56:27 GMT, Stan Goodman wrote:

>Gee, directory names with spaces would be such a pain in the butt for 
>reasons having nothing to do with FTP Browser that it never dawned on me to
>make any. 

Due to the limitations of such on Unix systems, I'd have to agree with
you -- IF that were the only problem. But I do get 3175s in FTBADDR on
occasion. I don't know where the fault lies but I sure like him to look
at the problem. I'd also like the SITE command interface cleaned up a
little for when I have to deal with *NIX based servers but that's a
REAL nit.


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             14-Sep-99 23:54:11
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:02:24 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

>They're not free if installing them to take the place of E.EXE requires
>hours of research to find WPS association objects to change and to
>discover how to reconfigure to default to the replacement.

Well, SmallEd isn't free (it's shareware) but it's cheap. And replacing
E.EXE with it is simple. Just put smalled.exe and smalled.hlp in you're
/OS2 directory, then copy smalled.exe to e.exe. You're done. Leave
smalled.exe there too, cause every FP will reinstall a new (old?) E.EXE
over it so you'll need to repeat the copy smalled.exe e.exe afterwards.
SmallEd is fast, simple to configure, prints well, and has several
handy addins (for a small price) such as the html and unhtml add ins.
It also allows several predefined fromatting options that are quite
handy. The only thing it lacks is a spell checker. Eric was trying to
come up with that and syntax highlighting when I last corresponded with
him but I haven't heard anything about it since late 97 on those
issues. The highlighting would be a nice addition but not a real
necessity. Spell checking would be good, though.


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             15-Sep-99 00:00:09
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: EPM : REXX syntax highlighting.

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:14:47 +0100 (BST), Bill Scarlett wrote:

>Since a rebuild of my system some time back, I realise that I have lost the
>ability to edit a REXX program with syntax highlighting.  I have various add
>on packages for EPM but I cannot remember how to make this work.  I suspect
>it is something *very* simple :-(

Put the command
"toggle_parse 1 epmkwds.cmd" into the command box. Or you can add this
command to a button on your button bar. That's provided you HAVE an
epmkwds.cmd file in your EPM directory. If not, read the EPMKWDS.C file
for how to set up your own.


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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            15-Sep-99 06:09:07
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: I'm looking for

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <1dg3dd6yrPYX-pn2-RZpkJQFuhi3u@adnline2061.adnc.com>,
tabrown@nospam.ibm.net (Tom Brown) writes:
>I use EmTec FTP from Em TecInnovative Software. It's part of the Em 
>Tec Network Suite. Works great! Look on Hobbes for: 
>/pub/os2/apps/internet/ftp/client/eftp506.zip 
>
>On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:16:09, "Rodney D. Myers" 
><Bill.Bob@deceptionPC.com> wrote:

>> a program that will work with netscape, to continue downloading a file, if
it 
>> stops/aborts/etc.
>> 
>> Is there any such beast?
>
>Tom Brown
>tabrown@nospam.ibm.net

Unless mein eyes deceive me, the new Netscape Beta b resumes where it
left off on transfers!  I had to hit Hobbs about a dozen times on a 350K
file day or so ago, and it rolled right up the about the bonk point each
time it re-connected!

Maybe I was dreaming..  on cable modem I almost never see the abend
problem, ever, so I don't get to know all this very often.


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org

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From: jsjones.@ibm.net                                  15-Sep-99 06:36:12
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: Microsoft Word 5.5b Download

From: jsjones.@ibm.net

Probably true. Word for DOS fans and most reviewers panned this release. Its
major 
purpose was to bring Word for DOS into the same pull-down menu structure as 
Mac Word, Winword and PM Word. There were no new features added, but it was a 
very cheap "upgrade" for Word 5 users. Of course, I always found the earlier
pop-up 
at the bottom of the screen commands even more cryptic than WordPerfect's -- 
Transfer/Load instead of File/Open, and such.

You can choose to use the Word 5 function key structure, btw, and I *think* 
it asked during install if Word 5 menu commands should be substituted, as
well.
I didn't try to install to a floppy, but the .exe is under 730k

Interestingly, Word 5.5 runs as an OS/2 program under NT, not a DOS program. 
And the same limitations on mouse usage in "graphics" mode apply under NT. 
I suspect Word 5 also runs under the OS/2 subsystem, but that I haven't tried. 
Yet. 

In <rhfYH11u7Pu0-pn2-lwCkELZSLCxt@localhost>, newbury@io.org (R. G. Newbury)
writes:
>If this is what I think it is, if you like Word 5.0, you will NOT like this.
>
>Word 5.0 was the last pure-DOS version. It used (uses) the pre-windows
>command structure: <esc> Transfer/Load not File/Load etc.
>
>The program files are quite small and a usable working copy will fit 
>on a 1.4M floppy. 


selectric.net? think international business machines, instead.

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From: rsstan@ibm.net                                    15-Sep-99 06:23:15
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: StarOffice - restart download - how?

From: "Bob Stan" <rsstan@ibm.net>

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:07:22 +0100, Steve Drewell wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 at 10:32 GMT, Carsten Mller <cm@stardivision.de>
>wrote:
>
>Should, but can't because I can't continue the download each time I get
>disconnected. If I download the so51_os2_01.exe file from a more
>user-friendly ftp site, will the registration info I received when I
>registered version 5.0 work with version 5.1?
>
I doubt it.  The registration I received with 5.1 has a slightly different
code than the one I got from 5.0, even though my personal info and customer
number was identical as far as I can tell.


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From: cwr@cts.com                                       15-Sep-99 17:00:08
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 15:44:15
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
: Will Honea wrote:
:> Good point.  I found out - the hard way - that DB2 (and UDB) - expects
:> a 'HOSTS' (note the S) even if you don't use Netbios links.  We run a
:> pure IP DB2 setup with TCP/IP and NETBIOS overTCPIP on the LAN and DB2
:> is the only thing that cares about that !@#$% HOSTS file!

: 	FYI, the HOSTS file has nothing to do with NetBIOS - it's a purely
: TCP/IP entity.  It exists for cases where there is no DNS available
: (indeed, you can run a small intranet entirely wihout access to a DNS by
: adding all the machine on the 'net to your HOSTS file) - the entire
: purpose is to allow OS/2 a mechanism to associate TCP/IP based host
: names with their IP number (just like a DNS).

: 	Now the reason why you need one for DB2 is simple:  if DB2 is installed
: to use TCP/IP as (one of) its network protocols, the HOSTS file is
: required to provide name resolution for the "localhost" name.

: 	Under Aurora (TCP/IP v4.2), this is generated automatically.  Under
: previous TCP/IP versions, you have to enable the "local loopback"
: adapter - and even then yu might have to add the "localhost" to your
: HOSTS file.

: 	So, that's why you need it.  Now this might be something we can modify
: the installer to configure for you if it doesn't already exist - I'll
: have to look into it.  For now, if you want to install DB2 to use
: TCP/IP, make sure you have your local loopback adapter enabled, and that
: the name "localhost" resolves ot the loopback adapters IP address
: (normally 127.0.0.1, but any IP in the 127.x.x.x range is valid).

Some (early?) sofware also looks for HOSTS in \tcpip\etc - this should
be controlled by the ETC environment variable, which on recent installations
will be set to \MPTN\ETC, but I've known software use a hard-coded path.
I always put my HOSTS file in both directories.  (I use a HOSTS file on
my local network machines, since they are mostly not connected to the
Internet and don't have DNS).


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk                         15-Sep-99 18:57:11
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: driver needed - HP35480A DAT

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:25:52 -0500, elmar schmeisser wrote:

>Good morning - I have an hp surestore tape 5000 external (scsi) which
>identifies itself as an HP35480A (firmware T503).  While
>backagain/2-demo can access it, the $149 price tag is a bit steep for
>me, especially since their win98 version is only $49.00 (!!).  My guess
>is that is because win98 auotmatically recognized the tape drive (via
>its "backup" program - thus making ba/2 for win98 unnecessary), and os/2
>doesn't.  OS/2's backup program seems to be a lamentable port of the dos
>text mode program that will only see "lettered" resources in the drives
>folder.
>
>Does anyone know of a device driver for this tape drive that will let it
>appear in the drives folder?  The various help entries seem to indicate
>that it should appear with the right drivers (e.g. help tape provides
>quite a few entries).  Many thanks in advance.
>
I don't bother with things like that. Go find the GTAK/GTAR stuff on
Hobbes and use that. I've got an HP DAT drive that has been used with
this software for several years with no problem, including several
complete restores onto different disk drives and when rearranging
partitions (not owning Partition Magic at the time).

Unless you really want to have a drive letter assigned of course...


Dave
-- 
mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Cricket: old English traditional variant of the rain dance.


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From: harvey9328@my-deja.com                            15-Sep-99 19:53:21
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:06
Subj: Print WordPro Equation Symbols

From: harvey9328@my-deja.com

Can anybody enlighten me as to why I might be having
a problem getting the equation symbols to print out
using WordPro. When ever I enter an equation symbol
and add the number I am using with it the equation
looks right on the screen as well as the print
preview but only the number I added prints out. All
the symbols are missing. I am using SmartSuite v1.0
with a Lexmark 3200 printer. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Harvey


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca                           15-Sep-99 21:11:23
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:06
Subj: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (John Hong)

	Just wondering, are there any caching software for OS/2?  Stuff
like Naviscope or Netsonic for Windows, what it does basically is do a
better job of caching (and some other things that I don't think matter for
OS/2).
	Another thing, if IBM does not intend to release just one fixpak
for Netscape 2.02, can they at least give us an option to download *just*
Navigator?  When one can download Netscape for Windows, you can either nab
the entire Communicator or just download the Navigator browser portion of
it.  It would be a satisfactory compremise, IMO.


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From: prather@infi.net                                  15-Sep-99 21:51:16
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: prather@infi.net (Jerry Prather)

In message <37DFC524.61EB2962@ca.ibm.com> - Brad BARCLAY
<bbarclay@ca.ibm.com> writes:
:>
:>	FYI, the HOSTS file has nothing to do with NetBIOS - it's a purely
:>TCP/IP entity.  It exists for cases where there is no DNS available
:>(indeed, you can run a small intranet entirely wihout access to a DNS by
:>adding all the machine on the 'net to your HOSTS file) - the entire
:>purpose is to allow OS/2 a mechanism to associate TCP/IP based host
:>names with their IP number (just like a DNS).
:>
:>	Now the reason why you need one for DB2 is simple:  if DB2 is installed
:>to use TCP/IP as (one of) its network protocols, the HOSTS file is
:>required to provide name resolution for the "localhost" name.
:>
:>	Under Aurora (TCP/IP v4.2), this is generated automatically.  Under
:>previous TCP/IP versions, you have to enable the "local loopback"
:>adapter - and even then yu might have to add the "localhost" to your
:>HOSTS file.
:>
:>	So, that's why you need it.  Now this might be something we can modify
:>the installer to configure for you if it doesn't already exist - I'll
:>have to look into it.  For now, if you want to install DB2 to use
:>TCP/IP, make sure you have your local loopback adapter enabled, and that
:>the name "localhost" resolves ot the loopback adapters IP address
:>(normally 127.0.0.1, but any IP in the 127.x.x.x range is valid).

Ok, Brad, I hate to look totally stupid here (alright, mirrors
don't lie), but I'm still getting the socket error.  

I looked up loopback in an .inf file and it said to run a short
piece of code at the command prompt.  I did, it appeared to
complete, and there was no change.

I added the local host to the hosts file (which had not
previously existed) and there was no change.

After so much discussion about TCP/IP, I figured that I'd better
have it even though I'm working on a standalone machine, so I
went to the Adaptor/Protocols object in the Setup folder and took
a shot at it.  I may have messed that up, but certain things are
configured now that weren't before.  I still get the same sockets
error and can't view the sample database through First Steps.

Now what???  I'm starting to wonder if this is more frustrating
than it's worth!

Any help appreciated, even if I'm told to uninstall DB2 and
forget it!


Jerry Prather                    prather@infi.net

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
					- Me (circa 1998)

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From: abeagley@datatone.com                             15-Sep-99 19:41:03
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: WTB - scsi dat tape backup software

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@datatone.com>

The "Personal" edition of Back Again/2 does not work with tape drives --
only with disks, floppy or Syquest or similar.

Alan


John Thompson wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> On 9/13/99, 6:50:29 AM, elmar schmeisser <etschmeisser@tasc.com> wrote
> regarding WTB - scsi dat tape backup software:
>
> > Good morning, assembled guru's:
>
> > I have a dual boot system (os/2 and win98) running an hp surestore
> tape
> > 5000 external scsi data drive (90m tapes for 4 gigs compressed) - thus
> > the multiple group posting.  Ideally, I am looking for software that
> has
> > similar incarnations in both partitions, i.e. I could read data made
> > with one side from the other side.  Backagain/2 does this but they
> want
> > $49 for the win98 side BUT $149 (!!!!) for the os/2 side, and will not
> > give a package discount.
>
> > My question is this - is there a copy of ba/2 that someone would like
> to
> > sell, and/or is there a recommendation for shareware? (I register all
> of
> > mine, and prefer shareware to commercial ware)
>
> Why not just use BackAgain/2 from OS/2 to back up the whole system?
> You don't have to worry about open registry files and such like in
> Win98 that way.  :-)
>
> You'll probably want to install the OS/2 FAT32 file system driver
> (available from
> ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/drivers/filesys/os2fat32.zip)
> so OS/2 can access the FAT32 filesystem.
>
> BTW, I thought only the "Pro" version was $149.  I seem to recall the
> "Personal" version being around $50.  You can't back up network drives
> using the personal version, if that's a concern.
>
> CDS also has a "competitive upgrade" option where if you prove
> ownership of another backup package you can get BackAgain/2 at a
> discount.  I was able to upgrade from BackMaster to BackAgain/2 Pro
> for about $60 a couple years ago.
>
> --
> -John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com               15-Sep-99 23:23:24
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: WordPro question (equation related)

From: "Jan Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com>

My sister want's to be able to do something like

   -
A   \
    |
B    > ...becomes D
    |
C   /
   -

A 'curly bracket' which is autosized. I have found how to _enclose_ equations
in curly brackets, but that is not what she wants.

I tried finding a way to do it, but didn't so I said that it probably isn't
possible. Am I wrong?


 /j



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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          16-Sep-99 09:27:04
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:09
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

I'm using WBI from IBM Alphaworks. It not only caches
better than Netscape but will notify you of any pages that
have been updated. It's also a freebie although it hasn't
been updated for a while.

http://www.alphaWorks.ibm.com/formula/wbi

Cheers

Wayne

On 15 Sep 1999 21:11:47 GMT, John Hong wrote:

:>
:>	Just wondering, are there any caching software for OS/2?  Stuff
:>like Naviscope or Netsonic for Windows, what it does basically is do a
:>better job of caching (and some other things that I don't think matter for
:>OS/2).
:>	Another thing, if IBM does not intend to release just one fixpak
:>for Netscape 2.02, can they at least give us an option to download *just*
:>Navigator?  When one can download Netscape for Windows, you can either nab
:>the entire Communicator or just download the Navigator browser portion of
:>it.  It would be a satisfactory compremise, IMO.
:>
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
******************************************************



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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          15-Sep-99 23:34:21
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:09
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:11:47, jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (John Hong) a crit 
dans un message:

> 
> 	Just wondering, are there any caching software for OS/2?  Stuff
> like Naviscope or Netsonic for Windows, what it does basically is do a
> better job of caching (and some other things that I don't think matter for
> OS/2).

How about wayyyy better?

I've been working with SmartCache, a Java cache application, for about a 
month now, and I like it a lot. 

First, it lets you cache *everything*, even HTML, java classes, etc., that 
have been coded "NOCACHE" at the server to hide it from you, so you can 
look at scripts and (some) CGIs you weren't normally going to be able to 
see.

Then you can fake your UserAgent name, to get access to sites that think 
they only want you to use specific browsers or versions. There's also a 
junkbusters mode that lets you turn off a lot of garbage.

An aggravating thing about NS/2's cache is that it has always cached every 
file into the same directory, and there's some kind of bug in WSeB's 
CMD.EXE that causes serious system troubles when a large number of files 
exist in one directory. SCache organizes every site into its own structure,
and keeps the original file names, making it very easy to browse those 
files and see what's what.

A really nice thing is that it self-configures and runs right out of the 
box. Just enter your Proxy info in Netscape and WebExplorer settings and 
you're up and cacheing without even a reboot.

The English page is at:

	http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html

(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing 
program?)



Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: will.honea@wcom.com                               16-Sep-99 02:35:22
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: Will Honea <will.honea@wcom.com>


Brad BARCLAY wrote:
> 
> Will Honea wrote:
> > Good point.  I found out - the hard way - that DB2 (and UDB) - expects
> > a 'HOSTS' (note the S) even if you don't use Netbios links.  We run a
> > pure IP DB2 setup with TCP/IP and NETBIOS overTCPIP on the LAN and DB2
> > is the only thing that cares about that !@#$% HOSTS file!
> 
>         FYI, the HOSTS file has nothing to do with NetBIOS - it's a purely
> TCP/IP entity.  It exists for cases where there is no DNS available
> (indeed, you can run a small intranet entirely wihout access to a DNS by
> adding all the machine on the 'net to your HOSTS file) - the entire
> purpose is to allow OS/2 a mechanism to associate TCP/IP based host
> names with their IP number (just like a DNS).

Expand a little more on this, please.  When we went from NETBIOS to
NETBIOS over IP the resolution function seemed to pass to RFCNAMES.LST
and RFCBCST.LST (at least, the damned thing wouldn't work until we set
those up properly) and the HOSTS file became redundant.  If fact, the
day I got bit by an install of UDB 5 SDK it took a while to discover
that the machine had no HOSTS file - period.  I copied mine over to it
and the SDK took off.  What is the relationship to the RFCnnn.LST files
and HOSTS?  Also, how does the system look for RFCNAMES.LST?  Thru the
path/dpath environment variables? Or is that a path fixed at install
time?

> Now the reason why you need one for DB2 is simple:  if DB2 is installed
> to use TCP/IP as (one of) its network protocols, the HOSTS file is
> required to provide name resolution for the "localhost" name.
> 
>         Under Aurora (TCP/IP v4.2), this is generated automatically.  Under
> previous TCP/IP versions, you have to enable the "local loopback"
> adapter - and even then yu might have to add the "localhost" to your
> HOSTS file.
> 
>         So, that's why you need it.  Now this might be something we can
modify
> the installer to configure for you if it doesn't already exist - I'll
> have to look into it.  For now, if you want to install DB2 to use
> TCP/IP, make sure you have your local loopback adapter enabled, and that
> the name "localhost" resolves ot the loopback adapters IP address
> (normally 127.0.0.1, but any IP in the 127.x.x.x range is valid).

The switch to that @#$%^ html search engine (NETQ) using local loopback
has probably generated as much traffic on the IBM news server as all
other topics! I was lucky in that my default configuration worked right
.  What a pain - just re-enforces my feeling that IP is more (black)
magic that science!

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From: clemare@207.79.141.19                             15-Sep-99 22:58:18
  To: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: OS2 PDF software

To: Buddy Donnelly <donnelly@tampabay.rr.com>
From: Carlos Enrique Le Mare Concha <clemare@207.79.141.19>


Buddy Donnelly wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:26:14, cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) a ?crit dans un
> message:
>
> > In <tzpyrbqvqverpgpbz.fi0di70.pminews@bigmomma.idirect.com>, "gordon
mcleod" <gmcleod@idirect.com> writes:
> > >Is there  software that is native OS2 to generate PDF files
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ghostview, but there are limitations on fonts.
>
> What limitations on fonts?
>
> Good luck,
>
> Buddy
>
> Buddy Donnelly
> donnelly@tampabay.rr.com

I download Ghostview, but when I try to create a PDF file I can't. But I found 
this rexx
file, that I modified to adapt to my configuration.

/* ps2pdf.cmd Convert PostScript to PDF on os/2 */
/* Written by Arjen Meijer */
/* 19 januari 1998 changed on 20 september 1998 and 5 april 1999*/

PS2PDFGS="C:\Programas\gstools\gs5.10\gsos2.exe"
PS2PDFPARAMS="-q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE#pdfwrite"
PS2PDFOPT="-IC:\Programas\gstools\gs5.10;C:\Programas\gstools\gs5.10\fonts;c:\p
sfonts"

arg psfile pdffile tail                    /* get input file parameter */

if psfile='' then do
        say 'Nothing to do. Start with a postscript file name. Hit enter to
end.'
        pull enter
        exit
end                            /* end Do */

if pdffile = "" then pdffile =left(psfile,LastPos(".",psfile)-1)".PDF"

address cmd PS2PDFGS PS2PDFPARAMS PS2PDFOPT tail"-sOutputFile#"pdffile" -c
save pop -f "psfile
exit

Then I drag a PS file generated with a PostScript Printer driver (output to a
file) and drop it to my rexx
program ps2pdf.cmd. Try it.

Carlos E. Le Mare C.
clemare@yahoo.com
clemare@olivia.ing.uvimar.cl

PD: Excuse my english.


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    16-Sep-99 03:51:26
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Buddy Donnelly (donnelly@tampabay.rr.com) wrote:

: > 	Just wondering, are there any caching software for OS/2?  Stuff
: > like Naviscope or Netsonic for Windows, what it does basically is do a
: > better job of caching (and some other things that I don't think matter for
: > OS/2).

: How about wayyyy better?

: I've been working with SmartCache, a Java cache application, for about a 
: month now, and I like it a lot. 


	Will check it out!

: First, it lets you cache *everything*, even HTML, java classes, etc., that 
: have been coded "NOCACHE" at the server to hide it from you, so you can 
: look at scripts and (some) CGIs you weren't normally going to be able to 
: see.

: Then you can fake your UserAgent name, to get access to sites that think 
: they only want you to use specific browsers or versions. There's also a 
: junkbusters mode that lets you turn off a lot of garbage.

: An aggravating thing about NS/2's cache is that it has always cached every 
: file into the same directory, and there's some kind of bug in WSeB's 
: CMD.EXE that causes serious system troubles when a large number of files 
: exist in one directory. SCache organizes every site into its own structure,
: and keeps the original file names, making it very easy to browse those 
: files and see what's what.

: A really nice thing is that it self-configures and runs right out of the 
: box. Just enter your Proxy info in Netscape and WebExplorer settings and 
: you're up and cacheing without even a reboot.

	I just checked out the site, damn, this sounds great!  The source 
is even available, so a plea to Netlabs or some other group to port this 
over to OS/2 (someone else already ported it over to Windows).  
Definately a must have, IMO, since we don't have any native software that 
accelerates caching.  NS/2 2.02 just plain sucks at this.



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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          16-Sep-99 12:59:05
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:34:43 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote:

:>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing 
:>program?)

Ouch!

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
******************************************************



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From: rob_w@nospam.net                                  16-Sep-99 01:13:12
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Where are Warp 3 fixpacks?

From: "Robert W." <rob_w@nospam.net>

Could not find Warp 3 latest fixpacks. Can someone please point to the URL?

Many thanks.


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From: edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com                       15-Sep-99 23:16:00
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Where are Warp 3 fixpacks?

From: Edward Jaffe <edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com>


"Robert W." wrote:
> 
> Could not find Warp 3 latest fixpacks. Can someone please point to the URL?
> 

Go to http://ps.software.ibm.com. Click on "Downloads & News." Follow
the link to the latest RSU-enabled Fixpaks.

-- 
| Edward E. Jaffe                  | Voice: (310) 338-0400 x318     |
| Mgr., Research & Development     | Fax:   (310) 338-0801          |
| Phoenix Software International   | edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com    |
| 5200 W. Century Blvd., Suite 800 | USS24J24 at IBMMAIL            |
| Los Angeles, CA 90045            | http://www.phoenixsoftware.com |

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      16-Sep-99 06:37:16
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article
<Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-zp1cJeGD4P3R@yourmachine.yourlocaldomain.yourisp>,
  donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:

> (It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
> program?)

*Ugh*!

You do realize that you must die now... It's the only pun-ishment fit
for your evil ways. :)

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj                16-Sep-99 06:01:26
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Netscape 2.02 - 128 bit version (where is it?) ...

From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj

Hello Baden.

15 Sep 99 07:55, Baden Kudrenecky wrote to All:

 >> A couple of months ago I downloaded the 128-bit version of
 Netscape
 >> Nagivator/2 2.02 to use on an older 486.  Unfortunately I lost
 the
 >> DL file when I did a complete reinstall a bit later.
 >>
 >> I'm trying to DL it again, but IBM seems to done something to the
 web
 >> site.  Choosing the 128-bit version of Navigator 2.02 gets me the
 >> download page for Communicator 4.04!  (I've tried from several
 >> machines with several browsers.)

 BK> Try ftp.replay.com

 BK> baden


Thanx baden.

I banged my head against the IBM site for a couple of hours trying to
 the 128 bit version.




Derek


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From: r.dunham@onsemi.com                               15-Sep-99 15:26:29
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: quicken 99

From: "Richard M. Dunham" <r.dunham@onsemi.com>

Bill:  If you are looking for a very reliable financial program to run
in native OS/2, I would suggested purchasing InCharge.  It is great!

InCharge can be found at:

http://www.spitfiresystems.com

Regards:  Dick

************

Bill Clark wrote:

> Will Quicken run under winos2?
>
> TIA
>
> -bc-
>
> User Friendly Software:
>   That which makes friends among those trying to use it
>

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From: evzen@netbrno.cz                                  16-Sep-99 10:49:06
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Evzen Polenka" <evzen@netbrno.cz>

"Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:

> :>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
> :>program?)
>
> Ouch!

Hey! What's wrong with Czech programs?!  ;-)

    Bye, Evzen



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From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com                        16-Sep-99 14:00:16
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Netscape - Type URL is SLOW!!!

From: sk8ndude-nospam-@erols.com (John Rodriguez)

Hello,

I'm using Netscape 4.04 with Warp4 FP11 and the latest GRADD.  I 
refreshed Netscape from Software Choice, installed FP11 and GRADD all 
at the same time.  Now I'm not sure where the problem lies.  When 
typing in URLs in the Go to: edit box in Netscape, it takes seconds 
for the character I typed to be shown.  Anyone know why this is?

Thanks,
John

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From: cawort01@spam.netcom.com                          16-Sep-99 14:02:13
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: quicken 99

From: cawort01@spam.netcom.com



I second this vote. InCharge is a Great Well written program.  And Bruce
Landeck 
the Author is very very helpful.

chris worth



In <37E01D33.33E8E123@onsemi.com>, "Richard M. Dunham" <r.dunham@onsemi.com>
writes:
>Bill:  If you are looking for a very reliable financial program to run
>in native OS/2, I would suggested purchasing InCharge.  It is great!
>
>InCharge can be found at:
>
>http://www.spitfiresystems.com
>
>Regards:  Dick
>
>************
>
>Bill Clark wrote:
>
>> Will Quicken run under winos2?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> -bc-
>>
>> User Friendly Software:
>>   That which makes friends among those trying to use it
>>
>

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          16-Sep-99 14:32:14
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:49:13, "Evzen Polenka" <evzen@netbrno.cz> a crit 
dans un message:

> "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
> 
> > :>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
> > :>program?)
> >
> > Ouch!
> 
> Hey! What's wrong with Czech programs?!  ;-)

Perhaps it's a "national" thing, and I don't want to sound like I'm biting 
any gift horses in the butt, so I'll explain the joke. 

Many businesses pay their workers by check, or "cheque", in the US, but 
make no allowances for converting these to spendable cash. In many poor 
neighborhoods where many people can not afford the high minimum balances, 
or high monthly fees charged to maintain bank accounts, there are 
commercial "Check Cashing" stores that will provide the service for a 
percentage fee. 

You see signs "CHECK CASHING" quite prominently displayed, in fact. Thus, 
the pun.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 16-Sep-99 14:04:07
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: driver needed - HP35480A DAT

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

"Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>I don't bother with things like that. Go find the GTAK/GTAR stuff on
>Hobbes and use that. I've got an HP DAT drive that has been used with
>this software for several years with no problem, including several
>complete restores onto different disk drives and when rearranging
>partitions (not owning Partition Magic at the time).

Make very sure you read -all- the docos that come with gtar.  There
are unclear potential problems talked about breifly in the docs that
have to do with corruption at media end with ACL's and EA's.

Regards,
Craig

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          16-Sep-99 14:37:04
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: Re: OS2 PDF software

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:58:37, Carlos Enrique Le Mare Concha 
<clemare@207.79.141.19> a crit dans un message:

> 
> I download Ghostview, but when I try to create a PDF file I can't.

GhostView makes it a lot simpler than what you're saying.

Use GSView to open an existing PS file you want to convert. (If you don't 
have a PS file, just open the app you created the file in, say DeScribe, 
and print to file with a printer object that has a PostScript driver. Then 
rename the resultant file MYFILE.PS)

Anyway, open MYFILE.PS in GSView. Then Print it using the PDFWRITE printer 
choice. This makes a PDF file out of it.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: bigfig@inorbit.com                                16-Sep-99 15:18:03
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: NS Comm4 Slow URL Typing

From: bigfig@inorbit.com (Gary Crossno)

There was a post complaining of this problem but I got it
marked as read and went on before realizing what his problem
was.

There is a file in the ...\user\yourname Netscape directory
named (I think) "netscape.hst".  This file grows and grows,
if you rename it to something else  that should take care of
your problem.  


Gary Crossno

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               16-Sep-99 12:29:17
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Jerry Prather wrote:
> Ok, Brad, I hate to look totally stupid here (alright, mirrors
> don't lie), but I'm still getting the socket error.
> 
> I looked up loopback in an .inf file and it said to run a short
> piece of code at the command prompt.  I did, it appeared to
> complete, and there was no change.
> 
> I added the local host to the hosts file (which had not
> previously existed) and there was no change.

Hi Jerry:

	Try running the following, and post the results here:

	ping localhost

	netstat -r

Brad BARCLAY

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               16-Sep-99 12:32:29
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: Re: Colorworks hangs w/GRADD

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

John Rodriguez wrote:
> Is anyone using Colorworks with GRADD?  If so I'd like to hear about
> it.  Also, if anyone is "Software Savvy"  maybe we could figure out
> what GPI API is causing this problem.  IBM may fix problems with
> backward compatibility but it has been my experience that a test case
> must be provided to get anything done.  It may be possible to watch
> the API calls being made, see what the last one was before the hang,
> then write a small program to reproduce the problem that we can send
> to IBM.  If I had a test case, I'd be able to get it to the right
> people at IBM.

	Try turning the ColourWorks preview stacking off.  I'm running
ColourWorks v1+ at home using GRADD drivers (previously via IBM's ATI
GRADD drivers, but recently via SciTech's Display Doctor for OS/2
drivers) without any serious problems.  The stacked previews don't show
up as anything but a black square, but otherwise everything runs just
fine.

Brad BARCLAY

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           16-Sep-99 17:38:24
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:27:08, "Wayne Bickell" 
<wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:

> I'm using WBI from IBM Alphaworks. It not only caches
> better than Netscape but will notify you of any pages that
> have been updated. It's also a freebie although it hasn't
> been updated for a while.
> 

I used WBI for a while. I quit using it because it didn't always 
recognize that a page had been updated (sometimes for more than one 
update cycle). I now use SmartCache , from 
http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html

It seems to work very well, but does require HPFS, and a later version
of JAVA (1.1.7, or better) to work properly. The other advantage to 
SmartCache, is that you should be able to use it on any platform (with
JAVA, and long file name, support), and with any browser that can be 
configured to use a Proxie server. I don't know about using it on 
anything, except OS/2, but I do share it among various browsers 
(Netscape 2.02, Netscape 4.04, StarOffice 5.1, and HotJava).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               16-Sep-99 12:45:04
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Will Honea wrote:
> Expand a little more on this, please.  When we went from NETBIOS to
> NETBIOS over IP the resolution function seemed to pass to RFCNAMES.LST
> and RFCBCST.LST (at least, the damned thing wouldn't work until we set
> those up properly) and the HOSTS file became redundant.  If fact, the
> day I got bit by an install of UDB 5 SDK it took a while to discover
> that the machine had no HOSTS file - period.  I copied mine over to it
> and the SDK took off.  What is the relationship to the RFCnnn.LST files
> and HOSTS?  Also, how does the system look for RFCNAMES.LST?  Thru the
> path/dpath environment variables? Or is that a path fixed at install
> time?

	Okay - first off, the HOSTS is *not* used for NetBIOS resolution.  It
is used for TCP/IP based resolution.  As you mention, the NetBIOS
protocol uses the RFCNAMES.LST file for NetBIOS name resolution.

	The difference is that one is used to resolve names as used by one
network protocol, and the other to resolve names ofr the other.  As
you're running NetBIOS over IP, you still have both NetBIOS and TCP/IP
installed, and both can still resolve names independently of one
another.  If you run a web browser on your machine for example, it
resolves purely via TCP/IP (and thus by going through the HOSTS file if
you've told OS/2 to search the HOSTS file before going to your DNS, or
if you don't have a DNS configured, or if the name in question wasn't
found on the DNS in the first place).

	When you tell your Peer or LAN Server to resolve a hostname however,
you're now doing this thorugh the RFCNAMES.LST file.  Note that a single
machine on one IP can thus have two names - one which it's reconised by
via TCP/IP, and another which it's recognised by via NetBIOS (the
machine I'm using here is a good example of this in action - on the
TCP/IP based intranet it's "barclay", but via NetBIOS it's "Yaztromo").

	As to how the system looks for your RFCNAMES.LST file, according to the
online OS/2 documentation this file is located in your \IBMCOM
directory.
 
> The switch to that @#$%^ html search engine (NETQ) using local loopback
> has probably generated as much traffic on the IBM news server as all
> other topics! I was lucky in that my default configuration worked right
> .  What a pain - just re-enforces my feeling that IP is more (black)
> magic that science!

	IP isn't particularily difficult, but the software does tend to rely on
the assumption that the user has it configured correctly, and that the
user hasn't tried to disable any of the functionality on their own by
removing entries from their CONFIG.SYS or deleting files they think they
don't need.

Brad BARCLAY

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Sep-99 13:11:16
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 DOS hot-to

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) said:

>but if you're stuck, you can even get
>real MS-DOS to run under OS/2. 

Thanks.  I have DOS under boot manager.  I was just wondering exactly what you
meant by VDM.  It turns out that this 13 mb program has its own memory manager
and runs fine under true DOS.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Sep-99 13:05:00
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: Re: I'm looking for

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

mike.luther@ziplog.com said:

>Unless mein eyes deceive me, the new Netscape Beta b resumes where it left
off
>on transfers!  I had to hit Hobbs about a dozen times on a 350K

I haven't has that many restarts, but Netscape does cache at least FTP
downloads.  I even had one biggie restart after shutting Netscape down and
disconnecting from the ISP.

Exception.  With the current vanishing download failure, the cache doesn't
help.
because the problem is that Netscape is told the download is finished - which
means the cache is cleared.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           16-Sep-99 17:38:28
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: Re: How to know which IRQs is my OS/2 using?

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:58:04, "James Dye" <jdye@niu.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:42:46 -0400, Juan I. Cahis wrote:
> 
> |Dear Friends:
> |
> |How can I know which IRQs is my OS/2 using? Is there an 
> 
> Open a command line window and enter 'rmview -irq'. 
> 
> James Dye
> Northern Illinois University
> 

Be warned that this doesn't always tell you about everything. It does 
tell you about everything that has a "Resource manager aware" driver 
loaded. It does NOT tell you about devices that do not have a 
"Resource manager aware" driver loaded (which also means no driver 
loaded). I don't know of any program that will give you all of the 
information. You need to "know" what is in your machine, and what 
resources the devices are using. In a lot of cases, you need to make 
an "educated" guess about what is, or is not, being used.

Hope this helps...
******************************
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From: anon@anonymous.co.uk                              16-Sep-99 19:30:25
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Acrobat Reader at 256 colours

From: anon@anonymous.co.uk (Steve)

Kris, John

Have you been able to check out my last post ?.

I know we probably don't have the same hardware but how about software
?. Have you got a later version of the reader than me ?.

Steve

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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               16-Sep-99 15:11:18
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

Jerry Prather wrote:
> So I disconnected from the internet and tried again.  Here is
> what I got:
> 
> [D:\]ping localhost
> ping: unknown host localhost
> 
> [D:\]netstat -r
> 
>   destination         router          netmask   refcnt   use
> flags  snmp intrf
> 
>    metric
>       127.0.0.0       127.0.0.1       255.0.0.0    0        0  U
>       0  lan0
> 
> Does this tell you something?

Hi Jerry:

	Yes, it does :).  Apparently your local loopback is installed just
fine, but there is a problem with the name resolution for the loopback
adapter.

	Can you post your HOSTS file (or if you prefer, just E-Mail it to me)? 
Thanks.

Brad.

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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             16-Sep-99 20:55:18
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:49:13, "Evzen Polenka" <evzen@netbrno.cz> wrote:

> > :>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
> > :>program?)

> > Ouch!
 
> Hey! What's wrong with Czech programs?!  ;-)

I've got a Russian proggie called Dos Navigator that's one of the best
shells I've ever seen and it even has an OS/2 icon!

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          16-Sep-99 20:25:19
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Which printer? 

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:22:12, "Andreas Ludwig" 
<aludwig@ErzETT.uni-potsdam.de> a crit dans un message:

> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:58:37 -0600, Carlos Enrique Le Mare Concha wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> GhostScript and GSView work satisfiimgly for me. But which PS-Printer are
you
> using? 

Almost all PostScript printers produce about the same output, but it 
appears from my experience that one, IBM Network Color Printer, can be 
counted on to make 100% standard PostScript output.

Driver info is always at:
http://www.printers.ibm.com/872567520004D211/Web/nppsdr?opendocument

You can, of course, use this printer driver without having an actual 
printer, since you're doing Print To File.


> I usually end up with huge files (30 pages term paper I wanted to
> publish - 40 (fourty!!) MB Postscript) Printed with StarOffice - perhaps
> thats the culprit?!
> 
> 40 MB PS file means PDF file of the same size... not really nice for
internet
> publishing. Most of all if I think of the 2.8 MB file with the hundreds of
> pages of our University's lecture and personell table (? sorry for my
> english).

These large PDFs seem to Zip very nicely, but may not do so if you have 
large colour graphics in them.

Package the PDF inside a zip container, and you eliminate any chance for 
Mime problems.

Also, you can keep the size down by using only the standard GS fonts, too. 
GS will rasterize any page that uses other fonts, which enlarges the PDF 
files. Using the standard fonts will avoid running afoul of the owners of 
typefaces, like Adobe, who have become more aggressive recently. You can't 
legally post publicly a PDF document containing a typical commercial font, 
since your license for it only lets you view and print with it, and Adobe 
doesn't consider WWW transmissions "printing" for some strange reason.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          16-Sep-99 20:52:19
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: How to know which IRQs is my OS/2 using?

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:42:46, Juan I. Cahis <jiclbch@ibm.net> wrote:

:How can I know which IRQs is my OS/2 using? 

 RMVIEW /IRQ

-- 
Anthropomorphic Hamburger

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Sep-99 18:27:16
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) said:
>I've got a Russian proggie called Dos Navigator that's one of the
>best shells I've ever seen

Hm, howitzer?  Mortar?  Artilliary?

Jim L
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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          17-Sep-99 08:00:26
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:49:13 +0200, Evzen Polenka wrote:

:>"Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
:>
:>> :>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
:>> :>program?)
:>>
:>> Ouch!
:>
:>Hey! What's wrong with Czech programs?!  ;-)
:>
:>    Bye, Evzen
:>
:>
:>

Dunno, maybe it's because the Czech bounced! :-)

Cheers 'n beers

Wayne

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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             15-Sep-99 20:59:02
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: StarOffice - restart download - how?

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:27:44 +0100, Steve Drewell wrote:

>Does anybody know what the difference is between these two versions (51
>and 51a)?

No registration key required from Sun. Hence, less code in the
executables.


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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             15-Sep-99 20:57:12
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: StarOffice - restart download - how?

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:19:11 -0700, Tim Martin wrote:

>Does anybody know of a mirror site which contains the most recent
>> > version of StarOffice for OS/2 which allows restarts of failed
>> > downloads? I've tried all that I know of to try and restart the failed
>> > download from Sun's website but nothing seems to work....not even
>> > wget.
>
>Yes.  Email me.

So okay, Tim. Where is a downloadable copy of Sun's SO with a KNOWN
url? FTP preferable but HTTP is acceptible.

And, BTW, I've tried for the last two years (my word! It's actually
more like THREE years) to register with WarpCity when you've had those
"open registration" promotions. So far, I've never had ANY response. So
what's the secret? Or am I just not quick/demanding enough?


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From: mikefry@iafrica.nospam.com                        16-Sep-99 23:40:29
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: mikefry@iafrica.nospam.com (Mike Fry)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:36:28, rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:

> A gotcha here. For RFCNAMES.LST to work, the NAMESFILE entry in the 
> PROTOCOL.INI file must be given a value large enough (at least) to 

Don't you mean the NAMES entry? At least, that's what's in my 
PROTOCOL.INI file.

Regards,
MIKE FRY
mailto:mikefry@iafrica.com

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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             15-Sep-99 20:29:20
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On 13 Sep 1999 15:41:47 GMT, Jerry Prather wrote:

>Went to the mptn/etc directory, but there was no "host" file. 
>What should have created this?  What kind of extension would a
>host file have?  Right now I am on an entirely standalone machine
>and have no immediate intention to go to a network.  VA Java is
>not yet installed.

Easiest way: Run TCPCFG from the command line. That'll bring up the
TCP/IP config notebook. First page should have all your LAN connections
and the LAT one in that list is (or should be) Loopback Interface.
Select it, then click "enable interface" and "manually" and it should
automatically set it to 127.0.0.1 If it doesn't then YOU set it to
that. Close the notebook and save the changes when asked. Reboot. Now
you should find a HOSTS (NOT host) file in /mptn/etc/ (Warp 3 puts this
in /tcpip/etc/ I believe) It's just a text file so you can open it and
edit it if you like, but is should now have a localhost already defined
in it. It'll also have other hosts defined if you're set up to access
others. But you should now be able to access a server deamon running on
your own maching using the local address. (127.0.0.1) You can access
SEVERAL local servers by using ...2, ...3, and so on for them. Oh, and
DO NOT define a subnet mask for your localhost.


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From: donm@ftel.net                                     17-Sep-99 00:01:03
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: StarOffice and Java 1.1.8

From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse)

:>:>
:>:>Has anyone got Java to work with Star Office?
:>:>

Yes, detailed below


:>:>Any suggestions?
:>:>


Open your config.sys file and copy the ENTIRE Classpath entry and
paste it into the location in StarOffice looking for classpath.  it
seems to me that the %classpath% variable in that location does not
work properly, so I eliminated the variable and entered the constant.


I have my SO51 working with Warp4, fp11, Java 1.1.8



let me know if this helps...


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From: donm@ftel.net                                     17-Sep-99 00:03:05
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: javaicq

From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse)

In message <L8W8d0hqkiHX-pn2-r4zbLN2mFBjY@localhost> -
glennth@<nospam>senet.com.au (Glenn Thompson)28 Aug 99 02:05:01 GMT writes:
:>
:>On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:44:06, lhadley@nospam.net wrote:
:>
:>-> You know, I didn't have trouble running ICQJava (once I upgraded to Java
:>-> 1.1.8) but aICQ won't run for me. Ideas anyone?
:>

what is happening with AICQ.  are you getting the (runtime error) in the 
upper left corner when trying to start it?

that turned out to be the aicq.conf file...  I trashed the original and
allowed AICQ to rebuild it and solved the problem....

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        17-Sep-99 00:32:15
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: Netscape 2.02 - 128 bit version (where is it?) ...

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:55:25, baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky) wrote:

> >A couple of months ago I downloaded the 128-bit version of Netscape
> >Nagivator/2 2.02 to use on an older 486.  Unfortunately I lost the
> >DL file when I did a complete reinstall a bit later.
> >
> >I'm trying to DL it again, but IBM seems to done something to the web
> >site.  Choosing the 128-bit version of Navigator 2.02 gets me the
> >download page for Communicator 4.04!  (I've tried from several machines
> >with several browsers.)
> 
> Try ftp.replay.com

That seems good... Thanks.  

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        17-Sep-99 00:34:18
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: How to know which IRQs is my OS/2 using?

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:42:46, Juan I. Cahis <jiclbch@ibm.net> wrote:

> How can I know which IRQs is my OS/2 using? Is there an utility that I
> can download (from Hobbes?) that can tell me which IRQs, and maybe
> also I/O ports and memory windows, are used by my OS/2? This is
> important when you are trying to know why some supported PCMCIA cards
> don't work in my installation.
> 
> I use Warp 3.0 with FixPack 40 in a Thinkpad 380D. Thanks a lot!!!!

Netfinity Service Manager can do this, although it's a pretty large install 
just for such a trivial task.  It seems to be free for DL these days,
incidentally.

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From: lazaga1@ibm.net                                   16-Sep-99 19:55:22
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: quicken 99

From: Paul Lazaga <lazaga1@ibm.net>

I notice a problem with the referenced link for Incharge, I believe it 
should be http://www.spitfiresoftware.com.  I am also using the 
CheckFree in conjunction with InCharge and recommend it to those who 
don't like getting writers cramp make checks out.

-- 
Paul Lazaga, eMail: lazaga1@ibm.net
WTW Group, Los Gatos, California, USA
Tel: 408-378-8636, Fax: 408-378-5927
Web: http://www.wtwgroup.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 9-16-99, 2:02:26 PM, cawort01@spam.netcom.com wrote regarding Re: 
quicken 99:


> I second this vote. InCharge is a Great Well written program.  And 
Bruce Landeck
> the Author is very very helpful.

> chris worth



> In <37E01D33.33E8E123@onsemi.com>, "Richard M. Dunham" 
<r.dunham@onsemi.com> writes:
> >Bill:  If you are looking for a very reliable financial program to 
run
> >in native OS/2, I would suggested purchasing InCharge.  It is great!
> >
> >InCharge can be found at:
> >
> >http://www.spitfiresystems.com
> >
> >Regards:  Dick
> >
> >************
> >
> >Bill Clark wrote:
> >
> >> Will Quicken run under winos2?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> -bc-
> >>
> >> User Friendly Software:
> >>   That which makes friends among those trying to use it
> >>
> >



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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               16-Sep-99 21:10:23
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: StarOffice - restart download - how?

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Doug Darrow wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:19:11 -0700, Tim Martin wrote:
>
> >Does anybody know of a mirror site which contains the most recent
> >> > version of StarOffice for OS/2 which allows restarts of failed
> >> > downloads? I've tried all that I know of to try and restart the failed
> >> > download from Sun's website but nothing seems to work....not even
> >> > wget.
> >
> >Yes.  Email me.
>
> So okay, Tim. Where is a downloadable copy of Sun's SO with a KNOWN
> url? FTP preferable but HTTP is acceptible.
>
> And, BTW, I've tried for the last two years (my word! It's actually
> more like THREE years) to register with WarpCity when you've had those
> "open registration" promotions. So far, I've never had ANY response. So
> what's the secret? Or am I just not quick/demanding enough?

I didn't realize you posted this publicly AND privately.
Please see the answers to your questions above in
my private response.


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From: rgehrig@primenet.com                              17-Sep-99 00:43:13
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:02
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com>

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:45:08 -0400, Brad BARCLAY wrote:

<snip>
>	Okay - first off, the HOSTS is *not* used for NetBIOS resolution.  It
>is used for TCP/IP based resolution.  As you mention, the NetBIOS
>protocol uses the RFCNAMES.LST file for NetBIOS name resolution.
>
<snip>
>	As to how the system looks for your RFCNAMES.LST file, according to the
>online OS/2 documentation this file is located in your \IBMCOM
>directory.
> 

Brad

What creates the RFCNAMES.LST file.?
Can I create it?  What does it look like?

Thanks



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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    17-Sep-99 08:05:14
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:02
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:40:58, mikefry@iafrica.nospam.com (Mike Fry) 
wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:36:28, rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote:
> > A gotcha here. For RFCNAMES.LST to work, the NAMESFILE entry in the 
> > PROTOCOL.INI file must be given a value large enough (at least) to 
> 
> Don't you mean the NAMES entry? At least, that's what's in my 
> PROTOCOL.INI file.

No, I meant what I said.

The NAMES= entry specifies the maximum number of NETBIOS names that 
can be defined, and is always needed when using NETBIOS, whether over 
NETBEUI or TCPBEUI (the latter being the module for TCP/IP transport 
of NETBIOS). That's why you have it.

The NAMESFILE= entry specifies the maximum number of NetBIOS name and
 IP address pairs in RFCNAMES.LST. Only needed for NETBIOS over TCP/IP
(and only then if you are using RFCNAMES.LST). It's often omitted on 
an initial install. This doesn't help, since it defaults to zero (see 
my previous post).

Another gotcha. If you use the MPTS configuration program to set the 
NAMESFILE= value, it seems (recently anyway) want a non-numeric value 
for the number! But you can insist, and it goes in OK then.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          17-Sep-99 17:27:27
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

I tried SmartCache the other day. It worked well but I really like
to be notified of changes to certain pages which it cannot do.
I will put up with WBI's hiccups for now. Anyway, I'm not really
impressed with Java. If WBI didn't require Javascript and pages
that I visit didn't  use it I'd have it off my system in an instant.

Cheers

Wayne


On 16 Sep 1999 17:38:49 GMT, Doug Bissett wrote:

:>On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:27:08, "Wayne Bickell" 
:><wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
:>
:>> I'm using WBI from IBM Alphaworks. It not only caches
:>> better than Netscape but will notify you of any pages that
:>> have been updated. It's also a freebie although it hasn't
:>> been updated for a while.
:>> 
:>
:>I used WBI for a while. I quit using it because it didn't always 
:>recognize that a page had been updated (sometimes for more than one 
:>update cycle). I now use SmartCache , from 
:>http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html
:>
:>It seems to work very well, but does require HPFS, and a later version
:>of JAVA (1.1.7, or better) to work properly. The other advantage to 
:>SmartCache, is that you should be able to use it on any platform (with
:>JAVA, and long file name, support), and with any browser that can be 
:>configured to use a Proxie server. I don't know about using it on 
:>anything, except OS/2, but I do share it among various browsers 
:>(Netscape 2.02, Netscape 4.04, StarOffice 5.1, and HotJava).
:>
:>Hope this helps...
:>******************************
:>From the PC of Doug Bissett
:>doug.bissett at ibm.net
:>The " at " must be changed to "@"
:>******************************

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Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    17-Sep-99 08:12:03
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: Re: DB2 Installation (continued)

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:43:27, "Robert Gehrig" <rgehrig@primenet.com> 
wrote:

PMFJI....

> What creates the RFCNAMES.LST file.?

Usually, the MPTS configuration program. But it's a simple, easy text 
file.

> Can I create it?

Yes. Use an ordinary text editor.

>  What does it look like?

Open Assistance Center -> Information -> Tasks -> Network Adapters an 
Protocol Services Guide.

Look in Overview of NetBIOS -> Routing Extensions.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    17-Sep-99 05:47:12
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: Re: quicken 99

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <7rqt9i$83g$1@hermes.louisville.edu>,
cawort01@spam.netcom.com wrote:
>
>
>
>I second this vote. InCharge is a Great Well written program.  And Bruce
Landeck 
>the Author is very very helpful.

Also, it has no problem with dates until the year 2500.  So you might 
have to find something else then.  ;-)

-- 
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_________________________________________________________________________
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From: janswa@algonet.se                                 17-Sep-99 12:10:00
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: LinkWiz

From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling)

Anyone know what happend to PCX and LinkWiz?

The web www.pcx.com seem to be down since several weeks.

Jan
 


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          17-Sep-99 21:15:11
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 20:04:19
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)...3 things to add

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:01:29, hamei@pacbell.net a crit dans un message:

> In <asn1umzve4.fsf@sci.fi>, Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> writes:
> >jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) writes:
> > 
> >> 	I just checked out the site, damn, this sounds great!  The source 
> >> is even available, so a plea to Netlabs or some other group to port this 
> >> over to OS/2 (someone else already ported it over to Windows).  
> >
> >Why would a Java app need porting to anything?
> 
> so it could run in less than 40 megabytes of memory perhaps ?

1. Actually, my experience with SCACHE has been that it uses surprisingly 
little RAM, or system resources (according to TOP.)

2. It's nice to read the internals of SCACHE and see that the author is up 
on OS/2, and has built in some code to detect HPFS.

3. And I posted a bit of wrong info earlier in this thread. I said the 
Junkbuster "blocklist" could be used with SCACHE to replace the FAIL.CNF 
file, but I was only partly correct. Partly correct, meaning: a whole lot 
wrong.

The format for FAIL.CNF is much pickier than Junkbusters, and only a few of
the URLs were being recognized. Each line in FAIL.CNF has to begin with 
http:// and follow some other rules, it turns out. (If you watch the SCACHE
command window while your're loading web pages, you'll see "ignored" 
reports giving the URLs in the FAIL.CNF file that it doesn't understand, or
are redundant.)

Sorry for the bogus info. Bog'fo.

Anyway, I've rechiseled the "blocklist" entries into a 600+ URL file that 
is very aggressive. If you mail me with the word "FAIL.CNF" in the Subject 
line, I'll send you what I've got working here. (Or you could even put "Yo,
no mo' bog'fo" on the subject line, since it's Friday.)


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com

[And please remember, if you mail me with a From:@hotmail.com, 
@bigfoot.com, or any of the other freemail services, the odds are very high
that I won't even see your letter.]


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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               17-Sep-99 16:08:08
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 21:30:15
Subj: Re: StarOFFICE 5.0a

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj wrote:

> Hello All.
>
> I have acquired StarOFFICE 5.0a, which is the version from SUN and
>  does not require a serial number for trial.
>
> As well there is SO 5.0 which is from stardivision.
>
> These are both available on
>
> ftp.natureboy.dyn.tj
> username: os2
> password: os2
>
> I am using Hethemon Brothers FTP  (OS/2) server, but I didn't read
>  the manual about whether it supports resume, so I don't know whether
>  it is capable of doing resuming broken downloads.
>
> ===========================

As a member of the OS/2 community I thank you for
sticking your neck out and your time, efforts, hardware
and making this fine suite available outside of Sun's
servers.

Sun's SO 5.0a release is also available on a few
more FTP servers as well (that do support resume).
If you find one server busy you can try others.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"

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From: stiler@ibm.net                                    17-Sep-99 16:18:01
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 21:30:15
Subj: Cribbage Game?

From: Michael D. Stiler <stiler@ibm.net>

Anybody ever heard of a computerized Cribbage Game available on OS/2?

TIA

Mike

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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              18-Sep-99 00:09:08
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 21:30:15
Subj: /mptn and /tcpip

From: alan@min.net.notspam

In examining my \MPTN and \TCPIP directory trees, I noticed that they
contain some duplicate files.  Is there some way to consolidate both those
trees into one?  My etc dir is \MPTN\ETC, if that helps.



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