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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      10-Sep-99 19:13:29
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:25
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer
<bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> writes:

>Oh, I got the same treatment, but I was more persistent. I finally got
>through to a live human being. Here in a nutshell is the gist of the
>conversation:
>
>One must buy the "Enterprise" CD which contains NAV for OS/2 as well as
>for NT, Win95, Win98, DOS, MAC, and some others. Plus one must also buy
>site licenses for a MINIMUM of 10 users. One can only buy those items from
>a reseller. A reseller must contact a "Symantec Specialist" at Ingram to
>get the part number and order the software and license. THEN, and ONLY
>then will Symantec ship the product to Ingram which in turn will ship to
>the reseller.

Keep trying.  Symantec sent me the "Enterprise" CD for free 
after I provided proof of ownership for IBMAV; they didn't even
charge me for shipping so I know it is possible.

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: jehnk@tiny.net                                    10-Sep-99 07:39:09
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: EMX 09d madness...

From: jehnk@tiny.net (jehnk)

>:>>However, funny things began to happen else where. Namely, Vsoup 1.28 and
1.29
>:>>no longer were able to trasnfer newsgroup messages. However, oddly, email
xfers
>:>>remaind intact. Also, after a bit of heavy use, my old and trusty Yarn
0.90
>:>>begain to corrupt it's database.
>:>
>:>I got vsoup129b38 from The Vsoup author's website to solve this.
>:>Look at http://privat.swol.de/ReinhardGriech/
>
>Nada with emxfix02 and, as Mr. McBride tried, vSoup 1.28 or 1.29.
>Couldn't get to the listed website for further nfo.


Okay I finally retrieved the 1.29b44 version from R.Greich. All is well
with the emxfix02 and this vSoup. I rebuilt my Yarn database and so far
so good.


yay
jehnk


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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    11-Sep-99 01:34:10
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: Astra 610P scanner, anyone using it in Warp?

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

jbrush@aros.net wrote:

: Well, the software works, and it is a nice scanner, but no matter what I
: try, I cannot use an app to scan, and then print, without first quitting
: the scan application.

	What does your BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS look like?  Is there a /IRQ 
switch on it?  Have you tried using the BIDI.EXE (IEEE-1284 printer 
driver) with it?

: PSP, the stuff that comes with the scanner, even the copier function
: requires that I shut down the copier app before it will print. The print
: window pops up, and shows the big red X and says the device is in use.

	Will probably be a common problem since you are using two PP 
devices.  No offense, but the PP should only be used for the printer and 
nothing else.  Have you tried upgrading the VistaScan stuff?  I know UMAX 
has the latest version available, even for the PP (VistaScan 3.5).

ftp://ftp.umax.com/



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From: jbrush@aros.net                                   10-Sep-99 19:51:01
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: Astra 610P scanner, anyone using it in Warp?

From: jbrush@aros.net

>: PSP, the stuff that comes with the scanner, even the copier function
>: requires that I shut down the copier app before it will print. The print
>: window pops up, and shows the big red X and says the device is in use.

>	Will probably be a common problem since you are using two PP  devices. 
>No offense, but the PP should only be used for the printer and  nothing

Non taken. I am soliciting any advice I can get :) 

The scanner is on its own port at LPT2, while the printer is on LPT1 
Makes no difference. I am stumped, to say the least.

>else.  Have you tried upgrading the VistaScan stuff?  I know UMAX  has
>the latest version available, even for the PP (VistaScan 3.5).

Can't hurt to try. Thanks.

John

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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  10-Sep-99 20:46:11
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: DOS/OS/2 question

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

If OS/2 and DOS are installed, I suspect that this may be a "Dual Boot"
installation.  If so, open the OS/2 System folder, open Command Prompts,
open Dual Boot.  If the system is "Dual Boot" you should be able to go
to DOS.  You will stay in DOS until you go to a DOS command prompt and
key "C:\OS2\BOOT /OS2".  Hope this helps.

Jim Devenport wrote:
> 
> I just inherited an older IBM slooooooooww laptop with OS/2, and this is
> my first exposure.  I'd really like to just disable OS/2 and have the
> laptop default to DOS when booting, but can find nothing of the sort to
> modify in autoexec.bat  .
> Any quik 'n dirty ideas on how to accomplish this?
> Jim W5AOX

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  10-Sep-99 20:49:21
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

Warp level and fixpack?  If you happen to be Warp 4 and FP11, pay a
visit to http://www.os2ss.com/users/mckinnis.

Max wrote:
> 
> I run an 486 notebook with one HPFS-partition on a 540mb harddisk.
> When unzipping some files I observed some unusual disk activity which
> almost brought the system to a stillstand, I shut down and restarted.
> When back on, the free space decreased from 200mb to 68mb, chkdsk OS2
> reported 465mb in 13000 filez, Xtgold (DOS) reports 330mb in 11000
> files, however, both agree on 60mb free space. Where are these 130mb?
> 
>                 anybody with any clues - please....

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: askbill*AT*ibm.net                                11-Sep-99 11:13:17
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: OS/2 User "Enterprise" - Was "IBM Anti Virus"

From: askbill*AT*ibm.net

Fellow-travelers,

-  methinks there is the germ here of an idea sound enough to save each of
us enough money to become self-sustaining:
 
In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-kSgGZJizkSJo@localhost>, on 09/10/99 
   at 08:28 PM, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:00:49, Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> 
>wrote:

>> The second solution would be for a group of users, SOHO's, etc. to form a
>> non-profit corporation, pool our money, and buy one copy of the software
>> and the requisite licenses. This is afterall an "enterprise" CD with
>> server versions, etc. as well as workstation versions. I was informed that
>> the user licenses were not based on a physical site, but on the total
>> number of licenses an enterprise wanted for its total number of
>> workstations, servers, etc.  they wished to protect.
>>  
>> This would reduce the cost of each copy to around $75 per copy. The site
>> license is $39. The cost of copying the CD and shipping one each would
>> raise the end user price to $75 or so after adding the distributed cost of
>> forming a non-profit company, opening a bank account, etc.
>> 

I think this is a damn good idea, and certainly the most polite message
Bob has posted this week!

>I support whatever you think is best. 

>I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an 
>"ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the  "company"),
>we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences  (should be even
>cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to  set up a site with
>the original disk, available on a FTP server  (password protected, so you
>need to pay your bucks to become a part of the "enterprise"). I suspect
>that there would be some legal thing to  prevent that, but it might be
>worth investigating.

It need not be limited to IBMAV.  Not by a long shot!

Are not one or more of the existing OS/2 user group / clubs already large
enough and well-organized enough to serve as a nucleus for such a venture?

>Perhaps BMT micro,  or IB would take that on (IB
>already sells site licenses etc.).

Personally, I would not want to see either of these houses lose  scarce
OS/2 business to a non-profit, nor would handling money or  charge-cards
be less than a serious pain for a non-profit organization. Long-term they
need to stay healthy for the benefit of us all.

But how about a "hybrid"?  The "enterprise" core being either an 
expansion of an existing OS/2 user-group, or a new purpose-built one, that
in turn solicited volume-discounts on an open-bid basis? The "winning"
vendor on each case then taking direct orders  against a look-up table of
members-in-good-standing so that the "club" did not have to handle charge
cards, etc. for individual purchases.

The USA, for one, has had a long (and, truthfully, mixed) history of
"shoppers clubs", etc.  - but those of us who remain OS/2  users may be  a
bit more motivated than most - especially as the "product" can be  made
easily available over the 'net.

> After  all, even IBM wouldn't buy more
>than one copy of the CD (well, they  might, but they shouldn't), and
>would just make it available on their  intranet for all who need it.

FWIW, IBM probably retained perpetual rights for internal use......

>It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
>all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large 
>"enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any 
>"enterprise". (A COMMON share, gets you access to NAV, a PREFERED  share
>gets you access to OS/2, or something like that). All you would  need is
>a set of install disks that would get you connected to the  internet, and
>do a CID install of OS/2.

Now you are talking!  Given even a 10% sign-up of OS/2 users, the "group"
would be larger than many of IBM's current clients.  OTOH - it would
probably *spend* less (lacking RS-6000, AS-400, on-site support contracts,
etc.)

We SO/2 users are a frugal lot.

Countering that - many of the members are likely to be themselves
consultants, IS/IT professionals, or company executives with a bit of
peripheral clout.  One would expect a buyers group to have a bit more
clout with IBM than a pure users group, simply because money is involved -
IBM's internal programming language of choice.

>I am sure that the technical details can be worked out (the legal 
>details might be more difficult). There are a LOT of very knowledgable
>people in the OS/2 community. (Then again, why limit this to just the 
>OS/2 community, the more site licences we can get, the lower the cost 
>should be, and the software is already on the CD).

The legal details are not difficult.  There is a lot of precedence.

A not-for-profit coop or confederation of users/consultants/developers
might also be seen as having a more legitimate legal and business
rationale for existence than a pure buyers club.  Goals might be simply to
further the spread and development of OS/2.  Again - there are clubs with
a history who have the right sort of articles of incorporation, etc.
already up and running. Clone, anyone?

For our part, we are not based in the US, but could put a VAT-registered
UK / EC  limited corporation OR a Hong Kong counterpart, at the service of
such an enterprise in about one week, and cheaply so.

Others, I am sure can do the same or better in the U.S.

>A great name for the company, would be "The Starship Enterprise", but  I
>am sure that there would be legal problems with that <g>.

How about "The Enterprise Ship Star"?  - presuming very fast downloads!

>Perhaps. we can use IBM's, and Symantec's, lack of cooperation to nail
>them to the wall <g>...

- Don't care about **them** being nailed to a wall. Life is too short,
etc.

- **Do**  care about having __our backs to a wall__ if the decline in
software availability continues!

Most of what we do with OS/2 here simply CANNOT be done at all with NT,
and is painful with *NIX.

>******************************
>From the PC of Doug Bissett
>doug.bissett at ibm.net
>The " at " must be changed to "@"
>******************************

Thanks, Doug and Bob!

Bill Hacker
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
askbill@ibm.net
William B. Hacker, III
Conducive Group (Asia) Limited    - Hong Kong
Conducive Logistics (EU) Limited   - London
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From: markhb@maine.rr.com                               10-Sep-99 23:52:20
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: DOS/OS/2 question

From: "Mark H. Bickford" <markhb@maine.rr.com>

Andrew Stephenson wrote:
> 
> In article <37D85AC9.A4575049@xoommail.com>
>            jdport@xoommail.com "Jim Devenport" writes:
> 
> > I just inherited an older IBM slooooooooww laptop with OS/2, and this is
> > my first exposure.  I'd really like to just disable OS/2 and have the
> > laptop default to DOS when booting, but can find nothing of the sort to
> > modify in autoexec.bat  .
> > Any quik 'n dirty ideas on how to accomplish this?
> 
> Would a "quik 'n clean" idea be equally acceptable? <g>
> 
> On the principle, "if you don't need it, don't install it," you
> could try plain old real DOS.  OS/2's Virtual DOS is excellent
> and serves me well, complete to the point of implementing all the
> undocumented calls I have tried.  One of the best real DOSes was
> DR-DOS (later Novell DOS), used by me until my switch to Warp 3.
> This is said to be available and very much alive, in an evolved
> form, but I have lost track of who now owns/supplies it.
> 

Caldera ( http://www.caldera.com/ ).  That's how they got into an
antitrust lawsuit against MS: they inherited it.  (The lawsuit revolves
around things that happened during the Windows 3.x beta period, as far
as I can tell.)

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From: jbigge@novagate.com                               11-Sep-99 03:58:01
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:26
Subj: Re: DOS/OS/2 question

From: jbigge@novagate.com (Jerome Bigge)

On Fri, 10 Sep 99 15:12:45 GMT, ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew
Stephenson) wrote:

>In article <37D85AC9.A4575049@xoommail.com>
>	   jdport@xoommail.com "Jim Devenport" writes:
>
>> I just inherited an older IBM slooooooooww laptop with OS/2, and this is
>> my first exposure.  I'd really like to just disable OS/2 and have the
>> laptop default to DOS when booting, but can find nothing of the sort to
>> modify in autoexec.bat  .
>> Any quik 'n dirty ideas on how to accomplish this?
>
>Would a "quik 'n clean" idea be equally acceptable? <g>
>
>On the principle, "if you don't need it, don't install it," you
>could try plain old real DOS.  OS/2's Virtual DOS is excellent
>and serves me well, complete to the point of implementing all the
>undocumented calls I have tried.  One of the best real DOSes was
>DR-DOS (later Novell DOS), used by me until my switch to Warp 3.
>This is said to be available and very much alive, in an evolved
>form, but I have lost track of who now owns/supplies it.

Supposedly Caldera from what I've heard.  Present version even
has some multi-tasking abilities.  Try doing a web search for
DR-DOS.   A dual boot system with OS/2 and DR-DOS might
be what he's looking for.

>If you ever needed to use OS/2, you could _easily_ install it and
>use VDOS (keeping the real DOS stuff handy in its own directory).
>
>However the instant benefits of running OS/2's VDOS include HPFS,
>multi-tasking, greater free RAM for the DOS apps, the ability to
>run OS/2 and W-3.1 apps and exchange data with them via Clipboard
>-- and other goodies which escape me.  You could also gradually
>transfer to OS/2 apps, as circumstances allow or dictate.  And if
>you already own OS/2, you already own its VDOS.

Jerome Bigge

CompTIA A+ Certified Computer Technician
Author of the "Warlady" & "Wartime" series.
Download at "http://members.tripod.com/~jbigge"

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From: rdunham@inficad.com                               10-Sep-99 22:55:00
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 04:50:27
Subj: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....

From: "RDunham" <rdunham@inficad.com>

FYI:  I just bought an Orb external SCSI unit.  Plugged it in and the system
recognized the drive but will not read the disk.  

Performed a shutdown and then rebooted with the disk in and upto speed.

Same happened again.

The unit will eject the disk but will not recognize the disk to format.  It
thinks that it is a floppy with the format window that does finally open. 
The disk is Mac formatted.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Regards:  Dick


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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 11-Sep-99 01:25:07
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 10:18:22
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)
spake unto us, saying:

>I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an 
>"ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the 
>"company"), we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences 
>(should be even cheaper than $80).

Hmmm...  This is a very interesting idea.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                 Dyslexic atheists don't believe in Dog.

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From: jgil@widomaker.com                                10-Sep-99 15:12:00
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 10:18:23
Subj: Multiple Config.Sys'es

From: Jack Gillis <jgil@widomaker.com>

It seems I remember that you could have several config.sys files, maybe
named Config.1st, Config.2nd and so on, and choose when one to use at
boot.

Is my memory failing?  If not, please remind me how to do it.

Thank you  very much.




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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 11-Sep-99 09:40:02
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 10:18:23
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

AFAIK the Orb wil lnot work with OS/2

The box and docos state that it will, but castlewood thenselves are
apprently having a problem with the drivers.

Cheers,
Craig

"RDunham" <rdunham@inficad.com> wrote:

>FYI:  I just bought an Orb external SCSI unit.  Plugged it in and the system
>recognized the drive but will not read the disk.  
>
>Performed a shutdown and then rebooted with the disk in and upto speed.
>
>Same happened again.
>
>The unit will eject the disk but will not recognize the disk to format.  It
>thinks that it is a floppy with the format window that does finally open. 
>The disk is Mac formatted.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
>Regards:  Dick
>
>

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From: JHB@jita.demon.co.uk                              11-Sep-99 11:49:26
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:13
Subj: Re: DOS/OS/2 question

From: JHB@jita.demon.co.uk (Jim Backus)

As other poster have observed, OS/2 is not a shell running on top of DOS. 
However in some versions of OS/2 it is possible to prevent the Workplace shell
starting.  I used to do this in version 2.1.  Again as other posters have said
the mods are in the Config.sys file.

Although OS/2 commands are superficially similar to DOS they are much more
powerful and allow multi-tasking from the command line - of course most
programmes rely on the Workplace Shell so you may be very limited on what you
can run.

For an example of the power of OS/2 commands the following will list matching
files on drives A: , C:, and D:

dir a:file.txt /s c:fille.txt /s d:file.txt /s

try doing that in any MS DOS !

Unfortunately I can't immediately find the modification needed to config.sys
to prevent the WPS starting.  If this is what you want to do e-mail me (note
address for bona fide e-mail in the sig line.

n message <37D85AC9.A4575049@xoommail.com> - Jim Devenport
<jdport@xoommail.com> writes:
:>
:>I just inherited an older IBM slooooooooww laptop with OS/2, and this is
:>my first exposure.  I'd really like to just disable OS/2 and have the
:>laptop default to DOS when booting, but can find nothing of the sort to
:>modify in autoexec.bat  .
:>Any quik 'n dirty ideas on how to accomplish this?
:>Jim W5AOX
:>



Jim Backus - Electronic Systems Engineer - OS/2 user by choice
 - member of Amnesty International
 - supporter of Proportional Representation
Bona fide  replies to jimb (at) jita dot demon dot co dot uk

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From: verysoft@zip.com.au@pop3.zipworl...               11-Sep-99 13:18:06
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

Message sender: verysoft@zip.com.au@pop3.zipworld.zip.com.au

From: verysoft@zip.com.au@pop3.zipworld.zip.com.au

In <37D9C347.E8A49EF6@ibm.net>, Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net> writes:
>Warp level and fixpack?  If you happen to be Warp 4 and FP11, pay a
>visit to http://www.os2ss.com/users/mckinnis.
>

>
>-- 
>Chuck McKinnis
>Senior Systems Engineer
>Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
>IBM Business Partner
>IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

Thanks Chuck,
		I run OS2 Warp4, no service pack (mostly because I hate to shuffle all the
floppies in my notebook.
I tried all sort of searches, hidden and not files, I suspect something really 
bad though, maby in the partition table or so.
If I had a fat partition, I probably try some derfrag or so.
See, I unzipped maybe 16kb or so, that could never cause over 100mb in swap or 
temp files.
Deletion of these files makes no diffs..
				
				cheers : Max :(

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      11-Sep-99 15:43:20
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

doug.bissett at ibm.net [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News
Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an 
 "ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the 
 "company"), we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences 
 (should be even cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to 
 set up a site with the original disk, available on a FTP server 
 (password protected, so you need to pay your bucks to become a part of

[ snip ]

 It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
 all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large 
 "enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any 

I think this could be a very good solution to get a new OS/2 client of WSeB.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               11-Sep-99 15:49:16
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Multiple Config.Sys'es

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Jack Gillis schrieb:
> 
> It seems I remember that you could have several config.sys files, maybe
> named Config.1st, Config.2nd and so on, and choose when one to use at
> boot.
> 
> Is my memory failing?  If not, please remind me how to do it.


No, you are right. Place them into \OS2\BOOT as config.x with x as
single char. You can then select them from the screen that comes up if
you press ALT-F1 at boottime.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: knuttle@WorldNet.att.net                          11-Sep-99 14:49:21
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: knuttle@WorldNet.att.net

In <7r9p6v$vu3$1@the-fly.zip.com.au>, verysoft@wr.com.au (Max) writes:
>I run an 486 notebook with one HPFS-partition on a 540mb harddisk.
>When unzipping some files I observed some unusual disk activity which
>almost brought the system to a stillstand, I shut down and restarted.
>When back on, the free space decreased from 200mb to 68mb, chkdsk OS2
>reported 465mb in 13000 filez, Xtgold (DOS) reports 330mb in 11000
>files, however, both agree on 60mb free space. Where are these 130mb?
>
>		anybody with any clues - please....
>
I have been reading the other post to your request.  Though I don't have an
answer
to you request, I have found the when I have a problem like yours, I find it 
convienent to place the total dir output into a temporary file.  This allows
me 
to move though the files and analysis each, reviewing the suspected ones.

If it has been a while since you have done this type of thing the command is
dir /s >filename

where the output from the dir command and all of the switches is placed in the 

file named filename.  filename can then be brought into an editor for review.

Sorry to mention it if you already know.

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From: weismer@erols.com                                 11-Sep-99 11:53:04
  To: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: (1/2) Re: Backup & Defragmentation 3.1 (Sept. 7, 1999)

To: John Hong <jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca>
From: Murray Weismer <weismer@erols.com>

I've made all of this painless with the DreckBak for OS/2 backup/restore
utility suite. It uses info-zip as the compression engine.
 I've yet to see any os2 file not backed up because of being "locked".
I've backed up from the booted partition, re-formatted and restored many
times without a problem. There are a few files from my DOS based
Wildcat4 BBS that are locked by wildcat to prevent another node from
accessing it while in use, and these are the only files that I've ever
seen that are not processed. (and only if there is a user online during
the backup) These files are reported by the extensive logging built into
DreckBak.

It's available on my site, below, and at many popular OS2 sites (BMT,
Hobbes)


John Hong wrote:
> 
>                   Backup & Defragmentation 3.1
> 
>      This is just a little primer drawn up in order to help OS/2
> users to use common compression utilities such as PkZip for
> backing up their OS/2 drives.
>      Another use for this is also to fight against fragmentation.
> OS/2's HPFS file system does not fragment like the way FAT drives
> do, but it does become susceptible to it when the drive is almost
> full.  So, the best remedy is to backup the data, format the
> partition, then unarchive the backup back to the original
> partition and you are back in business.
>      Prior to doing this, be sure to create boot disks in order
> to compress/uncompress the backup files.  You can use either the
> Create Utility Diskettes option in OS/2's System Folder or (a
> better option) use BootOS/2 in order to make them.  BootOS/2 in
> particular is more advantageous since it would only need two 3.5"
> 1.44 MB diskettes over the three needed by OS/2 Warp 3 & Connect
> and the four for OS/2 Warp 4.  Plus, one can also use LxLite
> compression with BootOS/2 in order to save that little extra bit
> of disk space necessary.  As well, you can probably use it for an
> LS-120 or ZIP disk whereas the Utility Diskettes option would not
> support it.  BootOS/2 can be found at the Hobbes OS/2 Archive
> (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu).  LxLite can be found at LEO
> (http://www.leo.org).
>      EXTRA: It is a good idea to make your backups booting
> through your bootdisks since there maybe locked files that won't
> be compressed.  Locked files are files that are currently in use
> by OS/2 and will not allow any kind of manipulation from the user
> to take place.
>      EXTRA EXTRA: Before making a backup, it maybe a good idea to
> run CHKDSK from the bootable floppies first.  Another thing, make
> sure you run CHKDSK (CHKDSK X: /F:2) twice in a row.  I picked up
> this little tidbit from the "OS/2 Warp Unleashed" book by SAMS
> Publishing (fine book, BTW).  It is found in Chapter 18, dealing
> with troubleshooting on page 941:
> 
>      "Note that if you running HPFS, then you should
>      periodically run CHKDSK C: /F:2 twice.  The first pass
>      checks and cleans the primary HPFS structures, and the
>      second pass checks and clears the secondary HPFS
>      structures."
> 
>      BTW: When I say it was tested personally under an OS/2
> system, it means that I had tested it under a bootable OS/2
> partition and not just a partition with data on it.
> 
>      Updates:
> 
>      * Warp for e-Business
>      * Windows 95 - FAT32
> 
>      To Do List:
> 
>      * Testing ARJ/2 2.6x once it gets out of beta
> 
> 
>       *NEW*UPDATE* Warp for e-Business *UPDATE*NEW*
> 
>      Okay, now that you've seent this, I have read of a user
> on Usenet trying to use RAR/2 2.50 in order to backup their
> Warp for e-Business partition.  It didn't work, apparently
> the EA's were trashed.  Possibly this may have something to
> do with the new LVM and JFS.  I don't know since I do not have
> Warp for e-Business, and thus have no way of verifying.  So at
> this point in time it is best not to try using any of these
> methods for backing up Warp for e-Business.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Overall
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Compression    | Disk Spanning | Requires PM |  Recovery | EA's |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> PkZip/2 2.50   |      Yes      |     Yes     |    Yes    |  Yes |
> Info-Zip 2.22  |       No      |      No     |    Yes    |  Yes |
> RAR/2 2.50     |      Yes      |      No     |    Yes    |  Yes |
> ARJ/2 2.62 Beta|      Yes      |      No     |    Yes    |   No |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Disk Spanning: Ability to support multiple archives.  Basically
>      once the disk or cartridge is full, it can ask the user to
>      insert another disk or cartridge in order for it continue.
>      A Yes is good.
> Requires PM: Does the compression program require the PM,
>      Presentation Manager.  This is OS/2's GUI.  A no is a good
>      answer since it would be impossible to boot OS/2 up with
>      regular floppies with the PM (unless it was a ZIP/LS-120
>      booting with A: drive).
> Recovery: Ability to recover/fix a corrupt archive, ie. PkZipFix.
>      A yes here is a good answer.  If the file is corrupt you can
>      at least salvage something from it.
> EA's: Ability to save OS/2's Extended Attributes.  A yes here is
>      a must for OS/2.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Info-Zip for OS/2 (v2.22)
> http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/
> 
>      Works very well under OS/2.  Use the following switches:
> 
> zip -rS$ (destination/name of backup) *
> 
> example:
> 
> zip -rS$ F:\BACKUP.ZIP *
> 
>      Stick unzip.exe onto your OS/2 bootdisks, to restore the
> drive simply:
> 
> unzip (name of backup)
> 
> example:
> 
> C: (being where I want it unzipped)
> unzip F:\BACKUP.ZIP
> 
>      Info-Zip is fine if you are just going to back it up to
> another partition or have a removable media drive large enough to
> fit it.  Currently, Info-Zip is not able to handle disk spanning.
> It is a future feature to be added according to their home
> webpage when 3.0 comes out.
> 
> Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's).
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> PkZip for OS/2 (v2.50)
> http://www.pkware.com
> 
>      Another that works well under OS/2.  Perhaps a little better
> than Info-Zip since PkZip does handle disk spanning.  Use the
> following switch:
> 
> pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=(drive letter)
>      (destination/name of backup) *
> 
> example:
> 
> pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=C F:\BACKUP.ZIP *
> 
>      To enable disk spanning, add the /span switch before the
> /volume one.
>      Take note, use pkzip.exe, do not use pkzip2.cmd or else it
> will simply fail and just zip up the volume label in a file
> called "all.zip".
> 
>      Now to uncompress the archive, simply go:
> 
> pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C
>      (destination/name of backup)
> 
> example:
> 
> pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C
> F:\BACKUP.ZIP C:
> 
> Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's).
> 
>      Extra Note: Apparently the geniuses at PkWare designed PkZip
> for OS/2 needing the Presentation Manager.  So, using the boot
> disks from the Create Utility Disks function will not work.  The
> only way for BootOS/2 to get this to work is with the TYPE=PM
> option.  This of course will require a bootable device large
> enough to handle the extra data.  So really you are going to need
> a bootable ZIP or LS-120 device in order to get this working.
> With that said, you can use unzip.exe in order to uncompress the
> pkzipped files.  But, that has a problem too.  Currently UnZip
> 5.40 will not be able to unzip multiple archives (like Zip 2.22).
> This is slated for the next major release (UnZip 6.00).
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> RAR for OS/2 (v2.50)
> http://www.rarsoft.com
> 
>      Easiest one to use due to its Norton Commander-like
> interface.  Go into RAR's configuration (press F9, it is the
> first item on the menu) and make sure the following are checked
> on:
> 
>      X - Always Solid Archiving
>      X - Put Recovery Record
> 
>      X - Read Only
>      X - Hidden
>      X - System
>      X - Archive
> 
>      X - Save extended attributes
> 
>      It could also be a good idea to check on multimedia
> compression in order to get better compression.  The rest is
> merely of choice, especially the compression (six methods to
> choose) whether to be for the best compression (slowest) or no
> compression at all in simply storing the files (fastest).
>      In order to backup your OS/2 drive, simply hit the "+" key
> and push enter in order to highlight all the directories (or
> select whichever one's you intend to backup).  Push F5 in order
> to compress onto a disk/cart and use Autodetect method in order
> to ensure spanning across disks/carts (or you can specify exactly
> what size you want).  Very easy.
> 
>      Take Note: Do not use "UNRAR.EXE" to restore!
>      Otherwise you will get a "Desktop can not be found in
>      OS2.INI file, attempting to create Temporary Desktop"
>      error message, where the Temperary Desktop will also
>      fail, leaving you sitting at the PM with one OS/2
>      Window session.
> 
>      In order to restore, place RAR.EXE onto the OS/2 bootable
> diskettes.  Start RAR.EXE up, now go to wherever you have the
> file backed up to, enter it, this will allow you view the files
> that are compressed inside the archived file.  Once that is done,
> hit the "+" key and press enter in order to highlight all the
> files.  Now, press ALT-F4 in order to restore by choosing the
> destination.  Simply put in "C:" or wherever your original boot
> partition was.  Once all of it extracted, there you go.  I think
> we have a winner.
> 
> Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's) and a Warp 3
> system (FP40 applied).
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ARJ/2 (v2.62)
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
> 
>      I confess that I have not yet tested ARJ/2, but I wouldn't
> recommend using it just yet since it is still in a beta stage,
> and does not save EA's.  But you could use EAUTIL in order to do
> this for you, but that is a bit of a chore especially since the
> other compression utilities here can do this automatically.  So
> what would be the point?
>      To enable disk spanning for ARJ/2, use:
> 
> arj a -vxxxx
> 
>      xxxx = denotes the specific size you want it to be
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>      Note: I only intend to write about currently supported
>      compression utilities.  In otherwords, LHA and ZOO for
>      instance I simply will ignore.  Neither one has been
>      updated since 1989-1993, and are relatively old and
>      obsolete given the others listed here.
> 
> Windows 95 - FAT32 (http://www.microsoft.com) - *NEW*
> 
>      So, you want to just dump OS/2 forever and head off into
> merry merry Windows 95 land?  Well, I have not had the
> opportunity to try this using Windows 95 on a VFAT partition,
> but under FAT32, there is simply no way you can backup a
> Windows 95 partition using stuff like PkZip for Windows or
> WinRAR.  The problem is that there are certain locked files
> at play.  PkZip for Windows did complete, but now you have the
> even bigger problem of trying to restore it from a bootdisk.
> Won't happen, I'm afraid.  When I tried this booting off of a
> Windows 95 boot disk, running PkZip 2.50's PkUnZip utility, it
> would not work because it complained of a lack of memory
> (apparently the FAT32 support on the bootdisk takes up a lot
> of memory as I'm always stuck with 542k conventional RAM).
> The last hope was RAR for DOS, but that too also complained of
> a lack of memory.  So, what's the point of using a Windows
> compression utility in order to backup the entire Windows 95
> partition if there is absolutely *NO* way of restoring it?
>      Now, where exactly am I going with all this?  Simple,
> thanks to the great FAT32 driver written by Henk Kelder, one
> can actually follow the exact methods listed here with the
> various compression utilities in order for OS/2 to backup
> Windows 95 through OS/2!  Using RAR/2 in the identical manner
> listed earlier will allow you to backup a Windows 95 partition.
> Once backed up, you can boot up with the Windows 95 bootdisk
> and then format the partition, re-boot back into OS/2 and use
> RAR/2 in order to restore the Windows 95 partition back to
> its previous state.  Now when you look at the disk with Norton
> Speedisk or booting Windows 95 up with a bootdisk in order to
> use ScanDisk (to see the entire disk information) you will see
> all the clusters neatly arranged in perfect order.  No
> fragmentation!  The advantage to using this method over using
> programs like Microsoft Defrag or Norton Speedisk is that they
> are not always perfect and can in fact at some times break
> files.  My motivation in going to all of this trouble was
> because after using Defrag, I found that one of my .WAV files
> in my Multimedia Themes was broken and could not be accessible.
> Imagine what else could break.
>      I have not tried using Info-ZIP or PkZip for OS/2, but
> I figure they would work with the same restrictions applied
> (ie. Info-Zip no disk spanning, PkZip needing the Presentation
> Manager).  In order to install Henk's FAT32 driver, I simply
> followed the quicky instructions he had listed in the FAT32.TXT
> file, using PARTFLT.FLT and not the OS2DASD.DMD file he had
> modifyed (on my OS/2 box it trapped as a result).  On the
> IFS=FAT32 line I did not have /EAS on (enabling Extended
> Attribute support).
>      So, do you *really* want to dump OS/2?  Didn't think
> so.  A question...could this method work with Linux?  There
> is a ext2 driver available for OS/2, that I know of.  Perhaps
> that is something else for me to try and play with! ;-)
> 
> CONCLUSION
> 
>      The best compression program for backing up OS/2 with is
> RAR/2, hands down.  Not only does it support disk spanning,

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From: weismer@erols.com                                 11-Sep-99 11:53:04
  To: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: (2/2) Re: Backup & Defragmentation 3.1 (Sept. 7, 1999)

> EA's, doesn't require the Presentation Manager, and can recover
> from corrupt archives, but it is also easy to use due to the
> text-based Norton Commander-like interface, so no messy command
> line switches to are necessary.  A great piece of work, indeed!
> Capable of backing up OS/2 onto another partition or onto
> multiple disks/cartridges making it right now, the emergency
> disaster recovery solution of choice out of the current crop of
> common compression utilities.
>      There are a few more coming, the next major release of
> Info-Zip (Zip 3.00 & UnZip 6.00) are being planned to support
> multiple archives.  ARJ/2 2.6x, currently in beta, is another
> possible choice to look at since it doesn't need the PM and
> supports disk spanning and recovery from corrupt archives.
> 
> BOOTOS/2 Notes:
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu - latest version is 9.17
> 
>      There seems to be a problem with Warp Connect & FP39 when
> trying to make a BootOS/2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM partition.  It creates
> it fine, but when I boot it up, it freezes at the "OS/2" box that
> appears on the top left-hand corner.  Weird.  I could not boot
> to a PM partition (BOOTOS2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM) even when I was back
> down in FP26!  Same symptom occurs, during bootup it just freezes
> at the "OS/2" box on the top left-hand corner.  The samething
> also occurs in FP40, BTW.
>      Even making just the floppies seems to cause a small error
> with Warp 3 & Connect.  Under FP40, for instance, upon making the
> two disk system (BOOTOS2 2DISK=A) after loading up the first disk
> it would give me a blank screen and stop dead in its tracks,
> going no further.  The solution, copy SESMGR.DLL from your
> x:\OS2\DLL onto your BOOTOS2 disk 1 (A:\OS2\DLL).  This also
> happened under FP39, BTW.  If you do run into any other kind of
> problem with the BOOTOS2 floppies, press ALT-F2 upon booting up
> the diskettes just to see what happens.  On this occasion for
> example, upon pressing ALT-F2, the screen said that SESMGR.DLL
> was not installed in any of the LIBPATH directory statements on
> the diskette.
>      Warp 4 seems to have absolutely no issues whatsoever, either
> a TYPE=PM or 2DISK=A under any of the FP's I have used (FP1, FP6,
> & FP10).

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           11-Sep-99 17:48:17
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:40:05, zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo) wrote:

> AFAIK the Orb wil lnot work with OS/2
>  
> The box and docos state that it will, but castlewood thenselves are
> apprently having a problem with the drivers.
>  
> Cheers,
> Craig
> 

FYI, the SCSI, and the ATAPI (EIDE)  drives DO work with OS/2. The 
other models (PP, USB) will not work without a driver, which is 
supposed to be under construction. I don't know the details about the 
SCSI, but the ATAPI (EIDE) drive needs the latest IDE driver 
(IDEDASD.EXE). Get, and READ, the README.RMS file, that comes with the
new Device Driver Fixpack (this also contains the latest <?> IDE 
driver). It has a lot of good information about using removable media 
(I don't know how much, if any, of this information applies to the 
SCSI drives).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           11-Sep-99 17:48:18
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 05:55:00, "RDunham" <rdunham@inficad.com> wrote:

> The disk is Mac formatted.
>  
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>  
> Regards:  Dick
>  

You may need to use the Windows tools to get it formatted to something
that OS/2 can recognize. 

I know of, at least, one case where the disk needs to have a FAT16 
Primary  partition so that OS/2 FDISK can remove that partition, and 
then create a new partition (or multiple partitions, if you wish). The
default PC formatted disks come with an Extended partition, formatted 
to FAT16, but OS/2 FDISK complains about an invalid partition table 
(as near as I can tell, it IS an invalid partition), and it will not 
do anything with the disk. After getting it set to a FAT16 Primary 
partition (using the Win tools), OS/2 FDISK could recognize it, and 
work with it. A MAC formatted disk would, probably, be "invalid" as 
well.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              11-Sep-99 18:31:20
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 21:32:23
Subj: Re: ?Why post-script for OS/2?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Harry Travis wrote:
> 
> Why is post-script something to value using OS/2 (and almost entirely
> OS/2 apps with printed presentation output? (LIke asking  "Why SCSI
> instead of IDE?"  in the coo scsi newsgroup).
> 
    Postscript does a beeter job of rendering a page especially if there
are subtle or complex graphics. I found PCL to be rather weak on
graphics.
    Postscript is much more portable that PCL. It is a page description
language; PCL is a printer control language. Not the same things.



> BTW, the post-script and PCL5e-capable -Lexmark Color Optra 40 whose
> closeout pricing T. Sipples has pointed out has a duty cycle rating of
> 3000 copies/month, not surprising, really for a unit designed for
> network connection. (and the cartridges are the same as for mass-market
> Lexmark 5700)
> 
    Since it's a color printer, I suppose 3000/month (only about
100/day) is good. For a network printer I would expect 10 times that at
least for a black-and-white.


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From: esther@bitranch.com                               11-Sep-99 18:35:02
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 21:32:23
Subj: What's in e-store for the next Phoenix OS/2 Society meeting

From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler)

E-commerce is the new buzzword, and if you believe what it says in the
magazines, every business with an an ounce of sense is creating an 
online store. But "enterprise level" tools are overkill for most small
businesses, and they cost an arm and a leg. Plus, there don't seem to 
be as many e-commerce site builder options for us OS/2 users.

Until now.

At the general meeting on Tuesday, September 14, a representative from
iTool will show us how easy it is to create an online store. If you've
been thinking about selling something online -- or simply curious 
about the procedure -- this is a meeting you can't miss.

What is iTOOL? 

iTool, which is a local Scottsdale company, hosts the e-commerce store
at its site. You build and maintain the site through a Web browser... 
so the OS you choose is irrelevant. It also means that you have no 
extra software to purchase or install.

iTOOL combines high performance Web site hosting with its development 
tools, giving you everything you need to run your organization online 
in a single package. You can sign up for Web hosting alone -- they 
include email accounts, interactive graphical statistics reports, 
multiple domain name hosting, a ColdFusion Web Application Server, a 
RealMedia Server, and so on. They also include site development tools 
like a site creation wizard and specialty templates for business types
(such as photographers and real estate agents).

But what's bound to attract you is its turnkey electronic commerce 
features. iTool uses browser based, database driven store 
construction, has key word searching, and supports secure credit card 
transactions with real time authorization. The cost for the basic 
e-commerce site is $49.96 per month.

When and where

This meeting will be the first one held at POSSI's new meeting site, 
at Camelsquare. Give yourself a few extra minutes to find the place. 
Camelsquare is on the northwest corner of 44th Street and Camelback, 
which sounds simple enough. However, the room itself may take you a 
few minutes to find. The Camelsquare offices are in lettered 
buildings. Ours is in Building G, room G250.

The meeting day and time doesn't change. We're still meeting on 
Tuesday, September 14th, at 7:00pm. The general Q&A session will begin
at 6:30. We're sure to have an after-meeting meeting, too, where we 
quaff a few ales... but will that be back at our old Coyote Springs 
haunts, or will we try a new site for food and drink? You'll have to 
show up and find out.

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          11-Sep-99 18:49:04
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 21:32:23
Subj: Re: Multiple Config.Sys'es

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:49:33, Christian Hennecke 
<christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> a crit dans un message:

> Jack Gillis schrieb:
> > 
> > It seems I remember that you could have several config.sys files, maybe
> > named Config.1st, Config.2nd and so on, and choose when one to use at
> > boot.
> > 
> > Is my memory failing?  If not, please remind me how to do it.
> 
> 
> No, you are right. Place them into \OS2\BOOT as config.x with x as
> single char. You can then select them from the screen that comes up if
> you press ALT-F1 at boottime.

That's not complete enough to work.

First, CONFIG.X is a reserved name, already existing, so choose another 
extension, like CONFIG.A, CONFIG.B, or CONFIG.C.

When the Alt-F1 "choices" screen comes up, you WILL NOT see these choices, 
automatically, but you can still hit the A, B, or C, key to use that 
alternate version.

To see it on the screen, you have to do some editing of one of the 
ALTxxx.SCR files. Look this up in DejaNews, since we've just had some 
discussion on it.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                11-Sep-99 15:58:16
  To: All                                               11-Sep-99 21:32:24
Subj: My eyes are crossed

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

I just got an email from a guy who is real estate agent for my parents house.

The thing was in what looked like HTML code, by and large.  But it had
enoumous
quantities of code I had never seen before (not java script or anything like
that) in which there were dozens of line with something about 3D fonts and
lots
of something else I couldn't recognize.  It took me 10 minutes to clean it up
to
the point where Netscape would read it.

What on God's Green Earth is this junk?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: nospam@bogus.net                                  11-Sep-99 13:17:24
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:18
Subj: Anyone using Abit Dual Celeron B6 with OS/2 WSeB?

From: Robert Basler <nospam@bogus.net>

I'm looking at the Abit Dual Celeron B6 motherboard as a platform for
OS/2 Warp Server for e-Business running SMP.  Anyone else tried this
board?  Experiences?  At Can$450 for a SMP system including two 400MHz
celerons, it is very hard to beat.

Please email me at: aurorasw aatt direct dott ca.
(misspelling deliberate) thank you.

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From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi...               11-Sep-99 20:40:01
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:18
Subj: Re: My eyes are crossed

Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca

From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:58:32, lifedata@xxvol.com a crit:

> I just got an email from a guy who is real estate agent for my parents
house.
> 
> The thing was in what looked like HTML code, by and large.  But it had
enoumous
> quantities of code I had never seen before (not java script or anything like
> that) in which there were dozens of line with something about 3D fonts and
lots
> of something else I couldn't recognize.  It took me 10 minutes to clean it
up to
> the point where Netscape would read it.
> 
> What on God's Green Earth is this junk?

	Probably something in XML or some junk from Office2000.  If it isn't 
a confidential matter, could you post some snippets of it?

Salut,

	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
	ICQ #13376913
	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: davisfnospam@union.edu                            11-Sep-99 16:44:03
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:18
Subj: video install on laptop trouble

From: davisfnospam@union.edu

Greetings!

New laptop has arrived but I was too optimistic about video compatibility
with OS/2.

It's got a chip it calls "S3 86e280 on board / 86e 280-DB", this according
to the specs.

On installation I get a hang if I use Warp's default S3 864 / 868 or its
S3 864 GRADD drivers. 

I tried installing FP 10 but it hangs on booting Warp, most probably
because of the video problem.

I'm running in plain VGA right now.

I need some hot tips on getting this S3 thingie working. 

Next, I see about Linux.

F.

-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
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From: davisfnospam@union.edu                            11-Sep-99 17:32:08
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:19
Subj: Re: video install on laptop trouble -fixed!<g>

From: davisfnospam@union.edu

>Greetings!
>New laptop has arrived but I was too optimistic about video
>compatibility with OS/2.
>It's got a chip it calls "S3 86e280 on board / 86e 280-DB", this
>according to the specs.
>On installation I get a hang if I use Warp's default S3 864 / 868 or its
>S3 864 GRADD drivers. 
>I tried installing FP 10 but it hangs on booting Warp, most probably
>because of the video problem.
>I'm running in plain VGA right now.
>I need some hot tips on getting this S3 thingie working. 
>Next, I see about Linux.
>F.

Thus had I written a few minutes ago. In the meantime I discovered I had
misidentified the chip (I realize now I should have used syslevel) and I
had also downloaded a driver (from where? my notes are too incoherent to
tell) which seems to have identified the chip (S3 M5+) correctly and
installed the appropriate drivers. I'm running at 1024.768.256 @43 so
that's ok.

I have another problem though which I'll post under a different heading.

F.


-----------------------------------------------------------
      Felmon John Davis		
     davisf@union.edu	|  davisf@capital.net     
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
     OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack 
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   11-Sep-99 15:43:21
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 03:14:19
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>

Where do I send the money? :)
I think this is a great idea.

Martin Nisshagen wrote:
> 
> doug.bissett at ibm.net [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News
> Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
> 
>  I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
>  "ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the
>  "company"), we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences
>  (should be even cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to
>  set up a site with the original disk, available on a FTP server
>  (password protected, so you need to pay your bucks to become a part of
> 
> [ snip ]
> 
>  It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
>  all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large
>  "enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any
> 
> I think this could be a very good solution to get a new OS/2 client of WSeB.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> m a r t i n | n
> 
> --
> Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
> CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
> d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

-- 

**********************
DigiGraph Technical
http://www.dgraph.com
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From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net                         11-Sep-99 23:15:12
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net

In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer
<bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> writes:
>On <9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-SdMNbMs42God@localhost>, on 09/09/99 at 11:42 PM,
>   fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk) said:
>

>
>One, and the one I am leaning toward, is to file a breach of contract suit
>against Symantec based upon the press releases issued at the time they
>took over IBM's antivirus product. Possibly IBM would also have to be a
>party defendant to the suit since otherwise Symantec could claim, in
>defense, that IBM wanted them to eliminate the SOHO and individual user
>after promising support, applications, etc. for OS/2 which induced us to
>buy the OS in the first place.
>
>It would not cost nearly the price of the CD and 10 licenses for an
>individual to file a suit. If a dozen or so do it at the same time, the
>suits would be combined into a class action on behalf of all purchasers of
>OS/2.
>
My .02 - 

Maybe I'm too laid back or perhaps I just don't like lawyers but...
Symantec does not want our business so why not just give our bucks to
someone that does?  Someone like pandasoftware?
  The pooled money idea is a good one though but it would still mean
supporting a company that does not want your business.

 
J. Pedone
jpedone@flash.net
http://www.flash.net/~jpedone
 
No need for WindowsVideoAccelerator, get OS/2.
Advanced design: Upper management doesn't understand it.

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From: kahnt@adan.kingston.net                           11-Sep-99 19:17:29
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <kahnt@adan.kingston.net>

knuttle@WorldNet.att.net wrote:
> 
> In <7r9p6v$vu3$1@the-fly.zip.com.au>, verysoft@wr.com.au (Max) writes:
> >I run an 486 notebook with one HPFS-partition on a 540mb harddisk.
> >When unzipping some files I observed some unusual disk activity which
> >almost brought the system to a stillstand, I shut down and restarted.
> >When back on, the free space decreased from 200mb to 68mb, chkdsk OS2
> >reported 465mb in 13000 filez, Xtgold (DOS) reports 330mb in 11000
> >files, however, both agree on 60mb free space. Where are these 130mb?
> >
> >               anybody with any clues - please....
> >
> I have been reading the other post to your request.  Though I don't have an
answer
> to you request, I have found the when I have a problem like yours, I find it
> convienent to place the total dir output into a temporary file.  This allows 
me
> to move though the files and analysis each, reviewing the suspected ones.
> 
> If it has been a while since you have done this type of thing the command is
> dir /s >filename
> 
> where the output from the dir command and all of the switches is placed in
the
> file named filename.  filename can then be brought into an editor for
review.
> 
> Sorry to mention it if you already know.

I probably should have piped in earlier on this thread, but to me it
sounds like the lost MBs are in lost clusters - the difference between
the number of files and space allocated between the two reports brings
that to mind as that sort of situation. Do a chkdsk on the drive, and if
it is your boot drive, you will probably need to force a dirty reboot
and have the config.sys do the scan.

The safest way I know to do a dirty reboot is to shutdown properly
first, restart and when the booting is done, hit the reset button (not
Ctrl-Alt-Del, but the cold reset button. If you are running IBM
equipment without such a button, use the power switch). That should
reduce the risk of lost settings and gummed up ini files. If the space
is all in lost clusters, they will appear in a \Found0 directory, which
in this case I would suggest just deleting to free up the space
concerned.
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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                11-Sep-99 23:10:06
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: My eyes are crossed

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette) said:

>> What on God's Green Earth is this junk?

>	Probably something in XML or some junk from Office2000.  If it isn't  a
>confidential matter, could you post some snippets of it?

Nah, I already ditched it.  If he sends me any more I'll post it.  I asked him
to use plain text only.

I remember that there were lots of <DIV> statements in it too, whatever they
are.  The mess wasn't balanced at all.  There were a lot of </xxx> statements
without the opening <xxx> statements.  There was one place in the whole thing
saying <style></style>.  Nothing in it.  Also big piles of repeated &nbsp
statements.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: farmer@NOSPAMnetnet.net                           12-Sep-99 04:43:16
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: REXX cgi programming question.

From: farmer@NOSPAMnetnet.net (Mark Framness)

Greetings All

I have a little REXX program I am using to accept a userid & password so as
to allow the user to access an Oracle database I have.

Since it is using a password I'm using a masked field & POST on the input 
form.  So then I must query the environment to get at the returned string 
and then begins the fun of parsing that string.  Right now I'm not worried 
about parsing the string but just want to display it in Netscape (btw I'm 
using Lotus Domino Go Pro crippleware webserver).

When I submit a couple of values for userid and password I don't see the 
QUERY_STRING but I do see the SAY USER line (iggy) and I see the PATH 
variable.  PM-REXX also shows nothing coming across (even when I say 
QUERY_STRING='username'.  What is going on?  Am I using the right function?
 Must I use another environment (aside from OS2ENVIRONMENT)?  Or what?

Thanks 

Below is the code.




/* A program to accept and check userids and passwords */

user="iggy"
password="natz"
sys_env='OS2ENVIRONMENT'

logon_string=VALUE('QUERY_STRING',,'OS2ENVIRONMENT')

say "Content-type:  text/html"
say ""

SAY "<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Welcome to the Address Master 
System!</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>"

SAY logon_string
SAY "<BR>"
SAY VALUE('PROMPT',,'OS2ENVIRONMENT')
say user
say "</BODY></HTML>"
EXIT




Mark & Lorie
farmer@netnet.net

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From: reedjd@bitsmart.com                               11-Sep-99 16:43:12
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: OS/2 Dialup With REXX

From: "Jordan Reed" <reedjd@bitsmart.com>

  I'm running Warp4 and interested in doing a little automation of the dialup
process, but not sure how possible it is.  I like to have a REXX script that
will automatically connect me to the internet and than preform a bunch of
tasks for me.  I'm currently using the builtin "Dial Other Internet
Providers" to connect to my ISP.  Is this possible to work from command line?
 Suggestions?

-JOrdan


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From: cannon@sonic.net                                  11-Sep-99 22:24:21
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: OS/2 Dialup With REXX

From: Andrew Cannon <cannon@sonic.net>


Jordan Reed wrote:

>   I'm running Warp4 and interested in doing a little automation of the
dialup
> process, but not sure how possible it is.  I like to have a REXX script that
> will automatically connect me to the internet and than preform a bunch of
> tasks for me.  I'm currently using the builtin "Dial Other Internet
> Providers" to connect to my ISP.  Is this possible to work from command
line?
>  Suggestions?
>
> -JOrdan

I just use ppp directly that reads a ppp config file with a connect option
using
slattach to parse the ISPs login prompt.  I believe there are some REXX
scripts
available on hobbes.  Back in warp 3 days I hacked the ANNEX_UCB_PPP.CMD
script.  Basically all I did for that is make it pay attention how the server
returns
strings like Login or login or Username,...

Andy
--
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From: cannon@sonic.net                                  11-Sep-99 22:39:20
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: Imation IDE Super Disks and OS/2

From: Andrew Cannon <cannon@sonic.net>


William Sonna wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:35:32, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John
> Hong) wrote:
>
> > William Sonna (wsonna@ibm.net) wrote:
> >
> > : I thought so too. That's what IBM has been claiming.  That's why I
> > : bought the drive.
> >
> > : Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.
> >
> > : IBM1S506.ADD sees the device as "PIO3 ATAPI" but no drive letter gets
> > : assigned.
> >
> >       You also need IBMATAPI.FLT installed as a BASEDEV, too.  It's an
> > ATAPI drive.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks, that did the trick!!!!  Now I have a drive B (in addition to
> my floppy drive A).
>
> Now, one final question (opinion) - is it worth the trouble to set the
> super drive up as A:?
>
> For example - have you had any experience/difficulties
> reinstalling/installing OS/2 on one of these devices configured as A:?
>
> Again, Thanks

Bootable floppies that I created when the ls-120 was as the a: drive
failed to be bootable when set as the b: drive.  I discovered when
trying to get my hp8110i cdrw to work.

I have not tried to track the problem down.  I used the program bootos2
to create the bootable floppies, because the "create utility diskettes" object
failed to recognize the ls-120, i.e. no drives were selectable.

Another performance hit with the ls120 can be seen:

a:
for % f in (*.txt) do echo %f

repeat the above after
c:
for % f in (a:\*.txt) do echo %f

and it seems to be faster.  It seems to access the drive too often.

another problem with the ls-120 is accessing it graphically.  It seems
to crash fairly often.

the commandline approach seems to be orders of magnitude faster.

I think a cdrw is a much better piece of hardware, than the ls-120.
The rewrite is faster.

--
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From: cannon@sonic.net                                  11-Sep-99 22:41:24
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: Imation IDE Super Disks and OS/2

From: Andrew Cannon <cannon@sonic.net>

HiVal ls-120 seems to work AOK.

Wayne Bickell wrote:

> I just want to know if any ATAPI LS-120 drive will work apart
> from the Imation. I'm particularly interested in the Panasonic
> SD120S. Any comment?
>
> Cheers
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7 Sep 1999 18:00:58 GMT, John Hong wrote:
>
> :>Jeff Malka (malkajef@orthohelp.com) wrote:
> :>: Where does one get the latest IBM1s506.ADD for Warp 3?
> :>
> :>      IDEDASD.EXE, ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/
> :>
> :>
> :>
>
> ******************************************************
> Wayne Bickell
> Tokyo, Japan
> wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
> ******************************************************
>            Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
> ******************************************************



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From: cannon@sonic.net                                  11-Sep-99 22:46:08
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: Please help, 2400 baud sucks!  need v.90 modem

From: Andrew Cannon <cannon@sonic.net>

USR Faxmodem v.90 works AOK.  Checkout http://www.indelible-blue.com
there is fairly good selection and useful info.

Just make sure you don't get a winmodem.

tree@firstva.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My ISP upgraded to V.90 and now my old Supra 14.4 faxmodem
> can only connect at 2400. Ouch.
>
> Can anyone tell me what v.90 modem will work with my system?
>
> I have a Pentium 60 PCI system.  I have Warp 3.0 with fixpack 40.
>
> I am looking at inexpensive ones like Diamond Supra max 56k int,
> Zoom 56k V90 PCI int, and similar from Motorola, Phoebe, etc...
>
> If anyone uses any of these with a setup similar to mine, I'd
> appreciate hearing about it.  Also, any other suggestions
> would be welcome.  Some day I will get a new computer, but
> for now, I am stuck with this beast.
>
> Please email responses to tree@firstva.com.
>
> Thanks alot.  I truly appreciate it.
>
> Paul.
> --
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> - o -
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> /'       /      /     \       /\''\
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>
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From: hhenkel@telusplanet.net                           12-Sep-99 06:15:07
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: Re: Please help, 2400 baud sucks!  need v.90 modem

From: Harold Henkel <hhenkel@telusplanet.net>

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I use a Motorola Voice Surfer and works well.

Andrew Cannon wrote:

> USR Faxmodem v.90 works AOK.  Checkout http://www.indelible-blue.com
> there is fairly good selection and useful info.
>
> Just make sure you don't get a winmodem.
>
> tree@firstva.com wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My ISP upgraded to V.90 and now my old Supra 14.4 faxmodem
> > can only connect at 2400. Ouch.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what v.90 modem will work with my system?
> >
> > I have a Pentium 60 PCI system.  I have Warp 3.0 with fixpack 40.
> >
> > I am looking at inexpensive ones like Diamond Supra max 56k int,
> > Zoom 56k V90 PCI int, and similar from Motorola, Phoebe, etc...
> >
> > If anyone uses any of these with a setup similar to mine, I'd
> > appreciate hearing about it.  Also, any other suggestions
> > would be welcome.  Some day I will get a new computer, but
> > for now, I am stuck with this beast.
> >
> > Please email responses to tree@firstva.com.
> >
> > Thanks alot.  I truly appreciate it.
> >
> > Paul.
> > --
> >   .
> > - o -
> >       ^     ^                    Z
> >     /   \  /  \   ^            z
> >   /'     \/    \ /  \         z
> > /'       /      /     \       /\''\
> >                               | ||''|
> >   amy,  paul, & izzy
> >                       tree@firstva.com
> >
> >                       http://users.firstva.com/tree
> >
> >   -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News
==----------
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> > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including  Dedicated  Binaries Servers
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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      12-Sep-99 07:22:28
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 10:18:25
Subj: Re: My eyes are crossed

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <37db1b81$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>,
  lifedata@xxvol.com wrote:

> Nah, I already ditched it.  If he sends me any more I'll post it.  I
> asked him to use plain text only.
>
> I remember that there were lots of <DIV> statements in it too,
> whatever they are.  The mess wasn't balanced at all.  There were a
> lot of </xxx> statements without the opening <xxx> statements.  There
> was one place in the whole thing saying <style></style>.  Nothing in
> it.  Also big piles of repeated &nbsp statements.

Sounds like MS Word (or possibly Word Perfect) HTML... Gawd awfull
stuff it churns out... Drives me nuts at work when people give me Word
converted HTML files. Takes me almost twice as long to re-write thier
HTML than it does to write it from scratch. And to rant some more, it
can't handle lists worth a damn... I mean what the hell is so tough
about using the <ol> or <ul> tags?? And all those damn non-breaking
spaces! SHESH! And putting tags around *nothing*? Like <center> and
<font> tags with nothing between them! And haven't they ever heard of
the friggen <br> tag? Huh! I mean Christ almighty! Why do people put up
with this crap? Huh!? It friggen drives me *NUTS*! AARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!

Sorry about that...

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           12-Sep-99 06:51:16
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-kSgGZJizkSJo@localhost>, on 09/10/99 at 08:28 PM,
   doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

> > This would reduce the cost of each copy to around $75 per copy. The site
> > license is $39. The cost of copying the CD and shipping one each would
> > raise the end user price to $75 or so after adding the distributed cost of
> > forming a non-profit company, opening a bank account, etc.
> > 

> I support whatever you think is best. 

Thanks.

> I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an 
> "ENTERPRISE". If we ALL pool our dollars (invest $80 in the  "company"),
> we could buy a single copy, with a few thousand licences  (should be
> even cheaper than $80). All that would be required, is to  set up a site
> with the original disk, available on a FTP server  (password protected,
> so you need to pay your bucks to become a part of the "enterprise"). I
> suspect that there would be some legal thing to  prevent that, but it
> might be worth investigating. Perhaps BMT micro,  or IB would take that
> on (IB already sells site licenses etc.). After  all, even IBM wouldn't
> buy more than one copy of the CD (well, they  might, but they
> shouldn't), and would just make it available on their  intranet for all
> who need it.

> It might also be possible to do the same thing with OS/2 itself, after
> all, IBM is only interested in selling, and supporting, large 
> "enterprises", and a few thousand user's would be as big as any 
> "enterprise". (A COMMON share, gets you access to NAV, a PREFERED  share
> gets you access to OS/2, or something like that). All you would  need is
> a set of install disks that would get you connected to the  internet,
> and do a CID install of OS/2.

The idea has merit but also some problems. If done this way, it would be
very public and might arouse a suit against the enterprise, especially if
the enterprise also started selling Warp or tried to force IBM to update
Warp. Also, there are possible tax ramifications if it becomes successful.
With my basic idea, a small charitable non-profit corporation would be
much less likely to be the target of legal action by Symantec.

Also, an internet install of Warp would take a VERY long time on line.

> I am sure that the technical details can be worked out (the legal 
> details might be more difficult). There are a LOT of very knowledgable
> people in the OS/2 community. (Then again, why limit this to just the 
> OS/2 community, the more site licences we can get, the lower the cost 
> should be, and the software is already on the CD).

Now the possibility of tax and legal ramifications really comes to the
fore. As far as NAV is concerned, a Microslop user needs pay less than $30
for his very own copy.

> A great name for the company, would be "The Starship Enterprise", but  I
> am sure that there would be legal problems with that <g>.

For sure that would cause trouble. How about GFYS, Inc. The S is for
Symantec, the rest you can figure out for yourself. <GRIN>


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MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           12-Sep-99 07:00:07
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <c1.2c.2S7rGZ$1QC@rhino_house.ibm.net>, on 09/10/99 at 07:13 PM,
   nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson) said:

> In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer
> <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> writes:

> Keep trying.  Symantec sent me the "Enterprise" CD for free  after I
> provided proof of ownership for IBMAV; they didn't even charge me for
> shipping so I know it is possible.

Two problems with this:

1. Those who want NAV and who didn't buy IBMAV are left out in the cold.

2. Those who did buy IBMAV years ago and cannot find the manual or
software are similarly out in the cold.

I fall into the second category. I used it for a couple of years before I
took down my BBS. I then felt it wasn't worth the overhead and stopped
using it. Then I moved my office and either discarded it along with
cartons (not boxes, big cartons) of "obsolete" software. Remember in the
good old days, programs came with real manuals frequently in slipcases. I
had multiple copies of every version of WordPerfect, Quatro Pro, DB2,
SuperKey, QEMM, Double DOS, PC-DOS 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, etc. I discarded 5
copies of OS/2 1.2, 5 of 1.3 enterprise, not to mention PCAnywhere,
Fastback Plus, Norton Utilities, etc., etc. Then there were the shareware
manuals for the BBS which filled more than 6 boxes which originally
contained 10 reams of paper each.

There is also the possibility that I  gave the software to a former
son-in-law who worked for me at one time. He did get one of my OS/2 Warp 4
packages since I only needed 3 when I moved and owned 7 and was still
married to one of my daughters. We had  six workstation machines and a
server at one time but now only run 4 with no server thanks to the
peer-to-peer networking of Lantastic which eliminated Novell (that I did
keep). If that's where it went, it's long gone since he's in prison.



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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    11-Sep-99 18:04:14
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: Linux is doomed...

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <7rb9nb$vck$2@the-fly.zip.com.au>, verysoft@wr.com.au (Max) wrote:
>Matthew Barratt <matthew@skat.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. wrote:
>>> IBM is fully committed to the Linux platform, as it is to SOM, OpenDoc,
>>> Open32, OS/2, PowerPC, WorkPlace OS, the Mach kernel, ad nauseum...
>>> 
>>> </SARCASM>
>>> 
>>> Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
>
>>PowerPC alive and well in embedded systems/VME market. Outdoes Intel on
>>size&power per unit performnce. Nice and quick too...
>
>The point is, IBM is 'committed' to linux. If it does that the same
>way as it did to os2, cyrix and lotus, Linux is doomed for sure  :]
>

Now, if only we could get IBM 'committed' to Microsoft!  ;-)

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_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
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From: rk@adis.at                                        12-Sep-99 15:27:01
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: REXX cgi programming question.

From: Richard Koestenberger <rk@adis.at>


When you use the Post method you must read the string from standard
input
query_string=lineIn();




On 12 Sep 1999 04:43:32 GMT, farmer@NOSPAMnetnet.net (Mark Framness)
wrote:

>Greetings All
>
>I have a little REXX program I am using to accept a userid & password so as
>to allow the user to access an Oracle database I have.
>
>Since it is using a password I'm using a masked field & POST on the input 
>form.  So then I must query the environment to get at the returned string 
>and then begins the fun of parsing that string.  Right now I'm not worried 
>about parsing the string but just want to display it in Netscape (btw I'm 
>using Lotus Domino Go Pro crippleware webserver).
>
>When I submit a couple of values for userid and password I don't see the 
>QUERY_STRING but I do see the SAY USER line (iggy) and I see the PATH 
>variable.  PM-REXX also shows nothing coming across (even when I say 
>QUERY_STRING='username'.  What is going on?  Am I using the right function?
> Must I use another environment (aside from OS2ENVIRONMENT)?  Or what?
>
>Thanks 
>
>Below is the code.
>
>
>
>
>/* A program to accept and check userids and passwords */
>
>user="iggy"
>password="natz"
>sys_env='OS2ENVIRONMENT'
>
>logon_string=VALUE('QUERY_STRING',,'OS2ENVIRONMENT')
>
>say "Content-type:  text/html"
>say ""
>
>SAY "<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Welcome to the Address Master 
>System!</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>"
>
>SAY logon_string
>SAY "<BR>"
>SAY VALUE('PROMPT',,'OS2ENVIRONMENT')
>say user
>say "</BODY></HTML>"
>EXIT
>
>
>
>
>Mark & Lorie
>farmer@netnet.net

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From: mrb@nospam.net                                    12-Sep-99 10:04:26
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: "Mitch Rocks" <mrb@nospam.net>

> On <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-kSgGZJizkSJo@localhost>, on 09/10/99 at 08:28 PM,
>    doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

 > I am beginning to think that *WE*, the OS/2 user's, could be an
 > "ENTERPRISE".

You are an Enterprise. Got a woody, Doug?  hah hah hah


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From: askbill*AT*ibm.net                                12-Sep-99 22:11:25
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: Re: Linux is doomed...

From: askbill*AT*ibm.net

In <sHt23odSRUEK089yn@ibm.net>, on 09/11/99 
   at 06:04 PM, jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) said:

>In article <7rb9nb$vck$2@the-fly.zip.com.au>, verysoft@wr.com.au (Max)
>wrote: >Matthew Barratt <matthew@skat.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. wrote:
>>>> IBM is fully committed to the Linux platform, as it is to SOM, OpenDoc,
>>>> Open32, OS/2, PowerPC, WorkPlace OS, the Mach kernel, ad nauseum...
>>>> 
>>>> </SARCASM>
>>>> 
>>>> Jaime A. Cruz, Jr.
>>
>>>PowerPC alive and well in embedded systems/VME market. Outdoes Intel on
>>>size&power per unit performnce. Nice and quick too...
>>
>>The point is, IBM is 'committed' to linux. If it does that the same
>>way as it did to os2, cyrix and lotus, Linux is doomed for sure  :]
>>

>Now, if only we could get IBM 'committed' to Microsoft!  ;-)

Hmmmm.......!!!   But they *ARE* are they not?
More than once I have seen that IBM are the largest single 
dealer in MS NT in the world......

Eventually, they will (at least make an attempt to) turn that market from
NT to something else --

- which, IF IBM really does control the customer interface
 (I'm not sure that they do) - could be bad news for MS.

The question is WHAT?  AIX?  Doubt it.  LINUX?  Not in the long run. JAVA? 
Don't hold your breath!

Are we about due for a whole new approach, such as a self-learning
neural-net OS with multi-lingual voice input on massively parallel
 copper-wired IBM chips?    - Which may be remoted over a 'net?

Seems to me all the pieces exist now - and most of them within  the
various IBM empires.

The next ten years are going to be interesting......

YOMD!

Bill Hacker

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From: fmesnier@dial.oleane.com                          12-Sep-99 15:45:11
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: disc change

From: Franck Mesnier <fmesnier@dial.oleane.com>

Hi

I had until then 3 hard disks, 2Gos, 6Gos and 8Gos with on the first disk this 

partitions :
- BOOT Manager
- 1 principal with DOS ( C: )
- 1 logic with OS2 ( F: )
I have the appropriateness to change this disc with a 10Gos. Could I simply to 

copy my partitions on the new discs of the style dos==3Gos os2==7Gos ( to not 
have to rename all the overs, or have I always to respect the rule of OS/2 
always in 1024 first cylinders ?

I prefer to pose this questions before having some problems.

Thank you

-----------------------------------
From the OS/2 WARP v4 fp10
Desktop of Franck MESNIER
34140 LOUPIAN
FRANCE
fmesnier@dial.oleane.com
ICQ : 26368765
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From: wsonna@ibm.net                                    12-Sep-99 15:01:02
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: Imation IDE Super Disks and OS/2

From: wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 05:39:41, Andrew Cannon <cannon@sonic.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> William Sonna wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:35:32, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John
> > Hong) wrote:
> >
> > > William Sonna (wsonna@ibm.net) wrote:
> > >
> > > : I thought so too. That's what IBM has been claiming.  That's why I
> > > : bought the drive.
> > >
> > > : Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.
> > >
> > > : IBM1S506.ADD sees the device as "PIO3 ATAPI" but no drive letter gets
> > > : assigned.
> > >
> > >       You also need IBMATAPI.FLT installed as a BASEDEV, too.  It's an
> > > ATAPI drive.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Thanks, that did the trick!!!!  Now I have a drive B (in addition to
> > my floppy drive A).
> >
> > Now, one final question (opinion) - is it worth the trouble to set the
> > super drive up as A:?
> >
> > For example - have you had any experience/difficulties
> > reinstalling/installing OS/2 on one of these devices configured as A:?
> >
> > Again, Thanks
> 
> Bootable floppies that I created when the ls-120 was as the a: drive
> failed to be bootable when set as the b: drive.  I discovered when
> trying to get my hp8110i cdrw to work.
> 
> I have not tried to track the problem down.  I used the program bootos2
> to create the bootable floppies, because the "create utility diskettes"
object
> failed to recognize the ls-120, i.e. no drives were selectable.
> 
> Another performance hit with the ls120 can be seen:
> 
> a:
> for % f in (*.txt) do echo %f
> 
> repeat the above after
> c:
> for % f in (a:\*.txt) do echo %f
> 
> and it seems to be faster.  It seems to access the drive too often.
>

I did not try the above, but I can confim that the LS120 seems slower 
than a floppy for just about anything.
 
> another problem with the ls-120 is accessing it graphically.  It seems
> to crash fairly often.
> 

It crashes constantly.  It is very annoying to use, bordering on 
unusable.

> the commandline approach seems to be orders of magnitude faster.
> 

Is the only thing that works with any semblance of reliability.

> I think a cdrw is a much better piece of hardware, than the ls-120.
> The rewrite is faster.
> 

When you factor in the disk thrashing, the read/write mistakes, and 
the slowness, I would have to agree, only because it really can't get 
much worse.

Anyone contemplating the purchase of an LS-120 drive for OS/2 should 
(in my opinion) look elsewhere, unless you are positive you will be 
content to use it exclusively in a command line environment.

I really have no way of knowing if it is the hardware itself or the 
driver, but for whatever reason, it simply doesn't work acceptably.  
My personal guess is that it IBM's driver is the culprit.  I can see 
no other way to explain double directory entries and ten minute file 
copies with hard disk thrashing.

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           12-Sep-99 15:18:21
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:51:32 -0400, Bob Germer wrote:

..snip...
>The idea has merit but also some problems. If done this way, it would
be
>very public and might arouse a suit against the enterprise, 
especially if
>the enterprise also started selling Warp or tried to force IBM to 
update
>Warp. Also, there are possible tax ramifications if it becomes 
successful.
>With my basic idea, a small charitable non-profit corporation would 
be
>much less likely to be the target of legal action by Symantec.

Yes, there are problems, but I think the technical problems could be
overcome quite easily.  One would need a password protected secure web
site (128 bit), and passwords on all of the products. Someone, like 
BMT
micro, could sell the licenses, and supply the appropriate passwords
(just about what they are doing now). The actual download, and 
install,
could use the CID method, after a user downloaded a basic set of
bootable diskettes, which would have enough code to get them connected
to the server. 

There is a user
-----------------------------------------------------------
askbill@ibm.net
William B. Hacker, III
Conducive Group (Asia) Limited    - Hong Kong
Conducive Logistics (EU) Limited   - London
-----------------------------------------------------------
who indicates that he doesn't think the legal problems would be all
that bad. The other problem would be that IBM (for sure), and 
Symantec,
would want a short list of "support" people who would be authorized to
talk to their support people, and who would support the rest of the
enterprise. This could be a problem, especially if multiple languages
are supported, which would be required for world wide support.

>Also, an internet install of Warp would take a VERY long time on 
line.

It wouldn't be all that bad over a LAN connection, or with a cable
modem, but it would take forever at 28.8K. I suspect that the actual
OS/2 thing might be something that could happen in the future. 
Starting
with NAV, to prove the technique and to set a precedent, would be the
way to go. Then working up to other things as the technology, and the
resources become available, would be a good idea. In fact, it might be
better to start with some other program(s), from friendly companies,
just to set the precedent.

..snip...
>Now the possibility of tax and legal ramifications really comes to 
the
>fore. As far as NAV is concerned, a Microslop user needs pay less 
than $30
>for his very own copy.

Yes, it would be better if an OS/2 friendly company, who is already in
the software business, could do it, even for profit. The MUCH better
solution would be if Symantec (and IBM) would smarten up and just
supply their (supported) product on an individual basis.

..snip...
>For sure that would cause trouble. How about GFYS, Inc. The S is for
>Symantec, the rest you can figure out for yourself. <GRIN>

We could call it Microsoft (again, legal problems), for all I care 
<g>.
As long as they support OS/2.

>--
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>Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
>Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 8
>MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
>Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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>
>

******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      12-Sep-99 17:56:17
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: Linux is doomed...

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

askbill*AT*ibm.net [Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & News
Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 >>>PowerPC alive and well in embedded systems/VME market. Outdoes Intel on
 >>>size&power per unit performnce. Nice and quick too...
 >>
 >>The point is, IBM is 'committed' to linux. If it does that the same
 >>way as it did to os2, cyrix and lotus, Linux is doomed for sure  :]
 
 >Now, if only we could get IBM 'committed' to Microsoft!  ;-)
 
 Hmmmm.......!!!   But they *ARE* are they not?
 More than once I have seen that IBM are the largest single 
 dealer in MS NT in the world......

True (from the figures I have seen at least). They have even started to make
really small modular web servers (small like a hub/router box) using NT4
Embedded and IIS for very scalable e-commerce solutions.
 
 Eventually, they will (at least make an attempt to) turn that market from
 NT to something else --

I don't necessarily think so. IBM has gone from a "try to steer all customers
to our own products only" to be a very platform/system and middle ware
agnostic company. A more true modern multi vendor company.

They will support whatever is popular if they can make good money from it (by
giving some added value in the market). Be it AIX, Linux, NT, Monterey, etc.

However, as IBM doesn't own or control either NT or Linux they can't either
make or brake the future for them (for both good and bad of course). They just
happens to enjoy profit on their success by giving some services to customers
with them.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

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CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             12-Sep-99 18:08:17
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: OS/2 Dialup With REXX

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:43:24, "Jordan Reed" <reedjd@bitsmart.com> wrote:

>   I'm running Warp4 and interested in doing a little automation of the
dialup
> process, but not sure how possible it is.  I like to have a REXX script that
> will automatically connect me to the internet and than preform a bunch of
> tasks for me.  I'm currently using the builtin "Dial Other Internet
> Providers" to connect to my ISP.  Is this possible to work from command
line?
>  Suggestions?
> 
> -JOrdan
> 
> 

Check out ISDNPM 2.9 (on LEO or ftp://ftp.uni-freiburg.de/pub/pc/os2/isdn/).
You can talk to this dialler via a pipe from a REXX script using the TCP/IP
REXX FTP API (part of Warp 4) to automate downloads etc.
From V2.9 it will talk to a normal modem as well as an ISDN card. 
There is an adequate example script included in the .zip file to get you
started.
I used to schedule it using IBM Works to do large downloads during the
night.

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Dave

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From: mintz@mnsinc.com                                  12-Sep-99 16:20:04
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 16:39:11
Subj: Re: FrontDoor?!

From: mintz@mnsinc.com (Larry Mintz)

Landreth (landreth@ykz.net) wrote:
: In the good old days of DOS there used to be software that was able to tell
: if incoming calls on modems was either data (for BBS) or fax. The software
: would then lock the com port to the proper apps. For example running
faxworks
: and some sort of BBS-software. Is there anyone that might have a slight clue
: about where to find such apps for OS2? And the I ofcourse no form of extra
: external hardware should be involved!

If your subject line referred to the DOS program FrontDoor (for DOS,) then 
you might try FrontDoor for OS/2.  Both a single line shareware version and
a multiline commercial version are available from Definite Solutions
(www.defsol.de) and from BMT Micro.

Larry

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From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi...               12-Sep-99 16:36:23
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 16:39:11
Subj: USB Zip drive

Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca

From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Hi,

	Anyone is using a USB Zip drive with the available USB driver from 
DDPak?  If so, what's your appreciation of it?  TIA.

Salut,

	Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
	ICQ #13376913
	http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: mintz@mnsinc.com                                  12-Sep-99 16:24:02
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 16:39:11
Subj: Re: HELP, Install Warp 3.0 Connect

From: mintz@mnsinc.com (Larry Mintz)

Dan Casey (dcasey@ibm.net) wrote:
: In article <7qqpj8$ff2$1@duke.telepac.pt>,
: "Joao Pissarro" <pissaro@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
: >Hello all,
: >
: >I am installing OS/2 3.0 Connect on a PC with a large disk. I have upgraded
: >the Disk 1 to the lage disk support driver, and the FDISK problem
disapeard.
: >
: >The installation process goes till the point when the PC should boot from
: >the hard disk (afer copying all the files from the disquettes and CD-ROM).
: >On this point the screen remain indefenitly with a blinking cursor on the
: >top left corner (it just does not boot).
: >
: >Any ideia to solve this problem?

: Sounds like you forgot to add the line:
: SET COPPYFROMFLOPPY=1

Just for the record, the above line should read

SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1

The word 'copy' should only have one 'p' in it.

Larry

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From: dr.fellXXX@alum.mit.edu                           12-Sep-99 14:50:00
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....

From: "DrFell" <dr.fellXXX@alum.mit.edu>

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:55:00 -0700 (MST), RDunham wrote:

>
>The unit will eject the disk but will not recognize the disk to format.  It
>thinks that it is a floppy with the format window that does finally open. 
>The disk is Mac formatted.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
>Regards:  Dick
>
>
When confronted by similar problems with a MAC formatted ZIP
disk, all I needed to do was to fdisk it first (you lose a little
Capacity
but  WTF) then format it.

Dr. Fell



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From: htravis@ibm.net                                   12-Sep-99 14:55:11
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Re: Imation IDE Super Disks and OS/2

From: htravis@ibm.net (Harry Travis)

In <05C6FUhLDNUU-pn2-Vdm0sQXweCCG@localhost>, on 09/12/99 
   at 03:01 PM, wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna) said:

>On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 05:39:41, Andrew Cannon <cannon@sonic.net> wrote:

>> 
>> 
>> William Sonna wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:35:32, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John
>> > Hong) wrote:
>> >
>> > > William Sonna (wsonna@ibm.net) wrote:
>> > >
>> > > : I thought so too. That's what IBM has been claiming.  That's why I
>> > > : bought the drive.
>> > >
>> > > : Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.
>> > >
>> > > : IBM1S506.ADD sees the device as "PIO3 ATAPI" but no drive letter gets
>> > > : assigned.
>> > >
>> > >       You also need IBMATAPI.FLT installed as a BASEDEV, too.  It's an
>> > > ATAPI drive.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Thanks, that did the trick!!!!  Now I have a drive B (in addition to
>> > my floppy drive A).
>> >
>> > Now, one final question (opinion) - is it worth the trouble to set the
>> > super drive up as A:?
>> >
>> > For example - have you had any experience/difficulties
>> > reinstalling/installing OS/2 on one of these devices configured as A:?
>> >
>> > Again, Thanks
>> 
>> Bootable floppies that I created when the ls-120 was as the a: drive
>> failed to be bootable when set as the b: drive.  I discovered when
>> trying to get my hp8110i cdrw to work.
>> 
>> I have not tried to track the problem down.  I used the program bootos2
>> to create the bootable floppies, because the "create utility diskettes"
object
>> failed to recognize the ls-120, i.e. no drives were selectable.
>> 
>> Another performance hit with the ls120 can be seen:
>> 
>> a:
>> for % f in (*.txt) do echo %f
>> 
>> repeat the above after
>> c:
>> for % f in (a:\*.txt) do echo %f
>> 
>> and it seems to be faster.  It seems to access the drive too often.
>>

>I did not try the above, but I can confim that the LS120 seems slower 
>than a floppy for just about anything.
> 
>> another problem with the ls-120 is accessing it graphically.  It seems
>> to crash fairly often.
>> 

>It crashes constantly.  It is very annoying to use, bordering on 
>unusable.

>> the commandline approach seems to be orders of magnitude faster.
>> 

>Is the only thing that works with any semblance of reliability.

>> I think a cdrw is a much better piece of hardware, than the ls-120.
>> The rewrite is faster.
>> 

>When you factor in the disk thrashing, the read/write mistakes, and 
>the slowness, I would have to agree, only because it really can't get 
>much worse.

>Anyone contemplating the purchase of an LS-120 drive for OS/2 should 
>(in my opinion) look elsewhere, unless you are positive you will be 
>content to use it exclusively in a command line environment.

>I really have no way of knowing if it is the hardware itself or the 
>driver, but for whatever reason, it simply doesn't work acceptably.  
>My personal guess is that it IBM's driver is the culprit.  I can see 
>no other way to explain double directory entries and ten minute file 
>copies with hard disk thrashing.

If an ls120 holds 80 times what a flopppy does, it is fast if it lists
the directory structure of as many files as you might find on 80
floppies in just 30 times the time.

Granted, this is still a lelluva lot of time and very small relief.
Having bought mine, I use it almost exclusively for archiving, and try
to keep it from being accessed through the WPS too much. 

Alternaives are (higher?) risk of data loss from ZIP drives  or JAZ. Or
the promise of ORB. And BTW, how 'b out that smashing technical and
commercial success from Sony?

Oh, yeah. The doulble speed LS120's said to be only half as slow.

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DemostiX
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From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca                           12-Sep-99 12:56:13
  To: All                                               12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca

In <c1.2b5.2S8Nxk$08v@geocities.com>, on 09/11/99 
   at 11:15 PM, jpedone_no_spam@flash.net said:

>In <37d8f2fe$1$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, Bob Germer
><bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> writes: >On
><9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-SdMNbMs42God@localhost>, on 09/09/99 at 11:42 PM, >  
>fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk) said:
>>

>>
>>One, and the one I am leaning toward, is to file a breach of contract suit
>>against Symantec based upon the press releases issued at the time they
>>took over IBM's antivirus product. Possibly IBM would also have to be a
>>party defendant to the suit since otherwise Symantec could claim, in
>>defense, that IBM wanted them to eliminate the SOHO and individual user
>>after promising support, applications, etc. for OS/2 which induced us to
>>buy the OS in the first place.
>>
>>It would not cost nearly the price of the CD and 10 licenses for an
>>individual to file a suit. If a dozen or so do it at the same time, the
>>suits would be combined into a class action on behalf of all purchasers of
>>OS/2.

I haven't been able to see the beginning of this thread, so maybe I've
missed something. Symantec has just announced it's going to include an
OS/2 client version in it's next release of the Norton  AntiVirus program.
(I saw it in Focus on OS/2 ezine). Why is everybody pissed off at
Symantec? This sounds like a positive development.

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From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net                              12-Sep-99 21:08:05
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: pNoOrStPiAgM@ibm.net (Harald Portig)

You do not have to force a dirty reboot, but can instead force a 
CHKDSK by commandline argument on the HPFS.IFS or DISKCACHE lines in 
CONFIG.SYS depending on whether the drive is formatted as HPFS or FAT,
respectively.  Here are a couple of examples:

IFS=G:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:2048 /CRECL:64 /AUTOCHECK:D+EF

DISKCACHE=256,128,AC:D+EF

In both statements the plus-sign indicates that drive E: will be 
checked during startup whether it is dirty or not.  Drives D: and F: 
will only be checked if dirty because they have no plus-sign in front 
of them.

Harald Portig
To reply remove the letters NOSPAM from my address.

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:17:58, "Mark L. Kahnt" 
<kahnt@adan.kingston.net> wrote:

> Do a chkdsk on the drive, and if
> it is your boot drive, you will probably need to force a dirty reboot
> and have the config.sys do the scan.
> 
> The safest way I know to do a dirty reboot is to shutdown properly
> first, restart and when the booting is done, hit the reset button (not
> Ctrl-Alt-Del, but the cold reset button. If you are running IBM
> equipment without such a button, use the power switch). That should
> reduce the risk of lost settings and gummed up ini files. If the space
> is all in lost clusters, they will appear in a \Found0 directory, which
> in this case I would suggest just deleting to free up the space
> concerned.

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From: bhubleybhubley@home.com                           12-Sep-99 21:11:20
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Scroll mouse for OS/2 Warp 4

From: "Brad Hubley" <bhubleybhubley@home.com>

Can someone recommend a good scroll mouse for OS/2 Warp 4?

Thanks
Brad

____________________________________________________
  Windoze 95 @ work 'cause I have to,
  OS/2 Warp 4 @ home 'cause I want to!

  Visit my Cable Modems and OS/2 Warp 4 website @
  http://members.home.net/bhubley/cableintro.html
____________________________________________________

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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             12-Sep-99 23:49:20
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Need Warp red spline to use h:\windows instead of c:\windows.

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

I installed W98.  I've got Warp 3, FP40 Red spline (furnish your own
windows).

However, a while back I copied windows to a HPFS drive for use under
OS/2.  It works fine except whenever I do certain things that involve
windows (like video drivers and plug in packs for Netscape) it wants to
use c:\windows instead of the correct h:\windows.

In the past I'd just copy my H:\windows to c:\windows and rename
c:\windows to something else as a quick and dirty kludge.  Then if the
file was modified I'd copy it over h:\windows.

Is there anyway I can change this behavior so that the system looks to
h:\windows?

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: arelyea@vt.edu                                    12-Sep-99 19:43:21
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu>

>   There are still more OS/2 text and HTML editors that
>probably will do the same, either for free or low-cost.

Like EPM (Enhanced Editor).  Warp supplies a version, but a better version is
available on Hobbes.  It is one of my favorite multi-purpose editors.  It
allows multiple files, with rings.  Enourmous undo feature, html, rexx, c,
and many other syntax highlighting.  Configurable in almost every way.  Plus,
no appended ASCII characters.

Tony.



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From: possum@tree.branch                                13-Sep-99 00:57:05
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: HTML association and StarOffice

From: possum@tree.branch (Mike Trettel)

Can anyone give any tips on how to remove the html association SO 5.1
rudely hijacked on me when I installed it?  I would like to reset to
default to NS/2, but SO 5.1 appears to have created a WPS class or the
like.  Tips and pointers are gratefully appreciated.

-- 
===========
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From: arelyea@vt.edu                                    12-Sep-99 20:00:06
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: Palm Oilot

From: "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu>

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999 21:03:00 -0800, Joseph Loo wrote:

>I recently acquired a palm pilot IIIx. Is ther any software out ther to 
>install and sync calendar, etc. for OS2?

StarOffice 5.1 (now from Sun).  Free, nice, works.

http://www.sun.com/staroffice/

Tony.



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From: arelyea@vt.edu                                    12-Sep-99 20:05:24
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Re: using win95 icons in OS2

From: "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu>

On Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:16:55 GMT, Joe Ricci wrote:

>There are numerous freeware win95 icon libraries.
>
>Are there utilities that will convert them to OS *.ico
>
are you referring to .dll-type libraries containing multiple icons?  If so,
check winfiles or shareware.com for a windows program that will extract them.
 Once they are in .ico format (windows or OS/2) OS/2 will display them.  If
you are unhappy with the way that pmview converts them then do it like this. 
Right-click on the icon file, edit the icon (it normally is simply a picture
of the icon).  Save it as an OS/2 icon.

Tony.



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From: arelyea@vt.edu                                    12-Sep-99 20:10:03
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: System slowdown/speed setting.

From: "Antonio Relyea" <arelyea@vt.edu>

Hello,
	I like games. . . DOS games . . . OLD DOS games.  e.g. Ultima.

The problem is that they run very fast on my system.  There are DOS utilities
(e.g. Mo'slo) that work decently well.  I was just wondering, is there (could
there be) a utility that adds a DOS setting like "system speed" to the
setting notebook?  I have no reason to think that there is such a thing, I
just thought that it might be a neat idea and that someone else may have
already thought of it.

Tony.



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From: tegibson@globalserve.net                          12-Sep-99 21:40:00
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 03:45:01
Subj: Crash on Setup

From: Thomas Gibson <tegibson@globalserve.net>

    I am having trouble setting up OS2 Warp4 to run on my machine.  I am
able to go through the setup screens and have the files install,
however, on reboot, a crash with register dump occurs after the
graphical startup screen appears.

    My machine:

    ASUS P2B with 300 Celeron
    MACH 64
    3.2 Quantum Fireball

    I have OS2 as a 501MB partition at the head of the disk and am
trying to use OS2 BootManager.  I experience this problem even with a
minimal install(no sound, etc)

    I am aware there are quit a few patches to OS2.  Where is the
definite source of these and is there any simple(free) way to determine
at least what patches are critical enough that they must be applied ?

    Is there a way to determine the exact release version ?

    Is there a way to bypass any unneccessary intialization which could
be problematic ?

    Any help greatly appreciated!!!

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From: tjb@starbase.neosoft.com                          13-Sep-99 01:52:07
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:23
Subj: Re: Crash on Setup

From: tjb@starbase.neosoft.com (Timothy J. Bogart)

In article <37DC55F1.89600934@globalserve.net>,
Thomas Gibson  <tegibson@globalserve.net> wrote:
>    I am having trouble setting up OS2 Warp4 to run on my machine.  I am
>able to go through the setup screens and have the files install,
>however, on reboot, a crash with register dump occurs after the
>graphical startup screen appears.
>
>    My machine:
>
>    ASUS P2B with 300 Celeron
>    MACH 64
>    3.2 Quantum Fireball
>
>    I have OS2 as a 501MB partition at the head of the disk and am
>trying to use OS2 BootManager.  I experience this problem even with a
>minimal install(no sound, etc)
>
>    I am aware there are quit a few patches to OS2.  Where is the
>definite source of these and is there any simple(free) way to determine
>at least what patches are critical enough that they must be applied ?
>
>    Is there a way to determine the exact release version ?
>
>    Is there a way to bypass any unneccessary intialization which could
>be problematic ?
>
>    Any help greatly appreciated!!!
>

I vaguely recall that the ATI cards need to go thru their DOS setup
to make sure some settings are the proper default - I think that is in
the back of the OS/2 book (mine hasn't been seen in some time).

Hope that helps...

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From: askbill*AT*ibm.net                                13-Sep-99 10:17:09
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Scroll mouse for OS/2 Warp 4

From: askbill*AT*ibm.net

In <ouhoyrlubzrpbz.fhytjl0.pminews@news>, on 09/12/99 
   at 09:11 PM, "Brad Hubley" <bhubleybhubley@home.com> said:

>Can someone recommend a good scroll mouse for OS/2 Warp 4?

Using IBM Trackpoint mouse on several machines here.  Needed OS/2 drivers
from the Logitech site (OEM maker of the mouse for IBM).
The drivers will operate EITHER the wheel mouse or trackpoint, but the
trackpoint was more natural for our use after trials.

Our main use is with Navigator & Communicator.

Have had some glitches when using an electronic CRT-MOUSE-KEYBOARD
switching device - probably noise in switching that confuses the driver.

No problem on dedicated use - so far, but some apps differ from others.


YMMV!

Bill Hacker
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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   13-Sep-99 02:38:15
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: HTML association and StarOffice

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <slrn7toiv6.ika.possum@ss5.fred.net> - possum@tree.branch (Mike
Trettel)Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:57:10 GMT writes:
:>
:>Can anyone give any tips on how to remove the html association SO 5.1
:>rudely hijacked on me when I installed it?  I would like to reset to
:>default to NS/2, but SO 5.1 appears to have created a WPS class or the
:>like.  Tips and pointers are gratefully appreciated.
:>
:>-- 
:>===========
:>Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net
:>
:>I don't buy from spammers.  No exceptions.  Fix the reply line to mail me.



Hello Mike

You have to de-register the class Star Office sets up for html files. I've
done it twice, once using a program called classman.exe, and once using
Xfolder. Both methods were successful. Simply changing default associations
won't work.

Hope this helps

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 12-Sep-99 22:40:03
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: HTML association and StarOffice

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

possum@tree.branch (Mike Trettel) wrote:

>Can anyone give any tips on how to remove the html association SO 5.1
>rudely hijacked on me when I installed it?  I would like to reset to
>default to NS/2, but SO 5.1 appears to have created a WPS class or the
>like.  Tips and pointers are gratefully appreciated.


Some time ago Winifried Tilanus showed the way to get rid of 
SO's very sticky registration.  Worked for me:

------- cut here ---------
/* DELCLASS.CMD This REXX program destroys classes  */
Call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
Call SysLoadFuncs
class = "StarWriterHtmlFile"

rc = SysDeregisterObjectClass(class)
 if rc = 1 then
   do
     say "Class "class" destoyed OK"             end
  else
   do
     say "Class "class" Destroy failed"             end
------- cut here -------

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: yaztromo@idirect.com                              12-Sep-99 22:56:21
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Palm Oilot

From: Brad Barclay <yaztromo@idirect.com>

Joseph Loo wrote:

> I recently acquired a palm pilot IIIx. Is ther any software out ther to
> install and sync calendar, etc. for OS2?
>
> I remember there was some activity out there and lost track of it.
>
> Thanks for any help.

    The jSyncManager (http://yaztromo.idirect.com/java-pilot.html) allows
you to quickly and easily synchronize, backup and restore your Palm, and
provides a fully open API allowing you to quickly and easily develop your
own jConduits.  It provides full PRC and PDB installation and
deinstallation routines (capable of installing both from disk and from
URL's), and can sync at speeds of up to 115.2kbps.

    Several jConduits are currently available, and several are in the
developmental stages.  Additionally, the GUI is multi-language aware,
currently with English, German and Esperanto plug-in language modules.

    Best of all, it's 100% free for SOHO use :).

Brad BARCLAY


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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      13-Sep-99 03:52:29
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: USB Zip drive

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <o0XddOdRVCYE-pn2-3n3Ejs0KWOWZ@MGOYETTE>,
  Exovede@Videotron.ca wrote:

> 	Anyone is using a USB Zip drive with the available USB driver
> from DDPak?  If so, what's your appreciation of it?  TIA.

I tried it on a G5-233 with an Intel USB controller, and I've gotten the
USB mouse and keyboard to work on this same system. When I installed the
USB Removable Drive Driver and attatched a USB zip drive, I got the
following results:

The CD and DVD drives got moved up 2 drive letters. The USB drive showed
up as a Floppy-Disk Icon in the drives folder, as well as a CD-Drive. (I
think this was do to the fact that I have a custom icon for my CD and
DVD drives.) Niether drive worked, and I'm not sure the system was very
stable. However I returned my config.sys to it's original state and
rebooted. These are definatly beta-quallity drivers, and just barely.

Oh yeah, sio.sys didn't load properly...

System info:
Warp 4 w/FP11
P5 233MMX
64MB RAM
Adaptec 2940UW SCSI
SMC EtherEZ Network card
Sound Blaster AWE32
Intel based USB controller.
ATI 3D RageII+ w/4MB and GRADD .79
IDE 24x CD-ROM and IDE DVD-ROM w/Danis506.add

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


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From: verysoft@wr.com.au                                13-Sep-99 03:35:06
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: verysoft@wr.com.au (Max)


Thanks guys,
		but so far nothing worked, i tried a forced chkdsk first (reset:
shame, shame), but it didn't show anything. There must be something
really nasty in the actual partition file or so. 
I feel that chkdsk is just not powerful enough, what worries me is
that the dos programms, that show hidden and system files like xtgold,
miss out on some 2000 files, if the space would be due to some
swapfile or lost clusters, you wouldn't take 2000 files.
Sofar i tried all the varieties of chkdsk, dir, fdisk.
If I ever find out, i post a message.....

				thanks so far :(



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From: duanec@eyebm.net                                  13-Sep-99 01:03:16
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: OS/2 Dialup With REXX

From: "Duane A. Chamblee" <duanec@eyebm.net>

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:43:24 -0400 (EDT), Jordan Reed wrote:

>  I'm running Warp4 and interested in doing a little automation of the dialup
>process, but not sure how possible it is.  I like to have a REXX script that
>will automatically connect me to the internet and than preform a bunch of
>tasks for me.  I'm currently using the builtin "Dial Other Internet
>Providers" to connect to my ISP.  Is this possible to work from command line?
> Suggestions?

You can call SLIPPM.EXE (DOIP) with and argument of the entry to dial...
   SLIPPM ADVANTIS

...dials into my advantis account automatically.

After you tasks are done, you can use a process killer to terminate SLIPPM.

You can also get:
 ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/ppp/pppfk101.zip

which, when temporarily used instead of PPP, will create a CMD file with the
arguments sent to it (by any dialer that uses PPP.exe)

Again, you'll probably want a task killer to terminate PPP.EXE when the
dialup is done.

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From: jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es                       13-Sep-99 08:36:11
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: DATMAN software under os/2?

From: jmandres <jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es>

elmar schmeisser wrote:

> Assembled gurus:
>
> Corresponding with Kan Yabumoto of Pixelab, Inc.
> (http://www.datman.com), he writes:
>
> "We heard a year or so ago that some OS/2 experts succeeded in running
> DATMAN-DOS under OS/2.  But, we do not have details.."
>
> Deja-news does not catalog any such occasion.  The relevent item seems
> to be that DATMAN-DOS uses a real mode driver for aspi :
>
> "That is, DATMAN-DOS is a TSR which behaves very much like MSCDEX.EXE
> both of which are "Network Redirector" in order to assign a drive letter
> to the system and all file I/O API goes through the pretty much
> "undocumented" INT 2FH."
>
> Does anyone have any imformation on this?
>
> thanks
> --
> p.s. this server gets only about 30% of the news posts.  E-mail in
> parallel to
> elmar.schmeisser@hedo.brooks.af.mil would be greatly appreciated.
>
> - elmar
> --

I obtained the same response. Trying to use DATMAN on OS/2 led me to
Ctrl-Alt-Del.
--
J os Manuel Andrs Gimeno
Instituto de Carboqumica, CSIC
Mara de Luna 12   Tfn.:  +34 976 733977
50015 - Zaragoza   Fax.: +34 976 733318
ESPAA / SPAIN

e-mail: jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es   or   jmandres@tornado.icb.csic.es


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From: ex2x2@teleport.com                                13-Sep-99 06:59:09
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: using win95 icons in OS2

From: ex2x2@teleport.com

In article <u9oqQtdHfcDx-pn2-dKoGd8Erm940@24.65.56.95.on.wave.home.com>,
  (Joe Ricci) wrote:
> There are numerous freeware win95 icon libraries.
>
> Are there utilities that will convert them to OS *.ico

Iconforge is a Win9x utility which will convert between Win .ico files
to OS/2 .ico format (use File/Save As/OS2 ICO). Download is at
http://www.cursorarts.com


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From: twelker@ibm.net                                   12-Sep-99 21:11:25
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 05:47:24
Subj: Re: Crash on Setup

From: John Twelker <twelker@ibm.net>

Aloha from Maui,

On my Aptiva with ATI Rage 3d Pro,  I selected GENGRADD drivers during OS/2
install. They'll work fine for OS/2 but don't try WIN/OS2. After installing
the latest FixPak, I installed the "GRADD080 ATI" drivers. Be sure you have
a copy of loaddskf.exe in the GRADD080 directory and type in an OS/2 Window,
"loaddskf x:\gradd080.dsk a: " (without the quotation marks) then "setup.cmd
ATI a: c: ". After reboot, go to System Setup and select System and the
resolution you like. You can also check out SciTech's new ATI drivers based
on IBM's GRADD drivers ... I like them better than the GRADD080 ATI ... less
flicker due to higher 85hz vs 75hz. refresh rate. You can get them from
"http://www.scitechsoft.com/down_sdd_os2.html"

Hope this helps!

Aloha,

John Twelker

Thomas Gibson wrote:

>     I am having trouble setting up OS2 Warp4 to run on my machine.  I am
> able to go through the setup screens and have the files install,
> however, on reboot, a crash with register dump occurs after the
> graphical startup screen appears.
>
>     My machine:
>
>     ASUS P2B with 300 Celeron
>     MACH 64
>     3.2 Quantum Fireball
>
>     I have OS2 as a 501MB partition at the head of the disk and am
> trying to use OS2 BootManager.  I experience this problem even with a
> minimal install(no sound, etc)
>
>     I am aware there are quit a few patches to OS2.  Where is the
> definite source of these and is there any simple(free) way to determine
> at least what patches are critical enough that they must be applied ?
>
>     Is there a way to determine the exact release version ?
>
>     Is there a way to bypass any unneccessary intialization which could
> be problematic ?
>
>     Any help greatly appreciated!!!

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From: C.J.@btsoftware.com                               13-Sep-99 11:05:22
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Check out : DCITU

From: "C.J." <C.J.@btsoftware.com>

DCITU 
********
Digital Camera Image Transfer Utility
This program allows images to be transferred from various digital
cameras to an OS/2-based computer. The transfer is accomplished
using the standard serial port cable usually supplied with the camera.

Check it out and download DCITU for a free trial period from:
http://www.btsoftware.com/os2/dcitu.htm


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From: mforMsytAh@biSgpond.cKom                          12-Sep-99 21:25:00
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: Should we stop the servers?

From: mforMsytAh@biSgpond.cKom (Mark Forsyth)

On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 19:29:21 GMT, Lorne Sunley <lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>
>However, if you do not have confidence in your power
>company and do not have a UPS on each server, it might
>be a good idea.
>

Hmmm. I tend to think, after working in the power industry for a while, that
the SUPPLY
of power over the Y2K transition will not be affected. What _may_ be affected
is BILLING.
The reason is that power generators are ***___VERY___*** paraniod about the
possibility
of having to do a 'black start'.


>
>Lorne Sunley
>


-- 
Mark F...
unMASK for e-mail

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From: muses9@cyberus.ca                                 13-Sep-99 09:17:02
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: Imation IDE Super Disks and OS/2

From: muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:01:04, wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna) made 
history by saying:

<much snippage>

-> Anyone contemplating the purchase of an LS-120 drive for OS/2 should 
-> (in my opinion) look elsewhere, unless you are positive you will be 
-> content to use it exclusively in a command line environment

Factors to consider before coming to the above conclusion:
- new buyers will receive the new said-to-be-faster drives, which may 
help
- LS-120 is excellent for backups using Rexx (which you can launch 
from the Workplace Shell)
- IBM ~may~ make a better driver 

-> 
-> I really have no way of knowing if it is the hardware itself or the 
-> driver, but for whatever reason, it simply doesn't work acceptably.  
-> My personal guess is that it IBM's driver is the culprit.  I can see 
-> no other way to explain double directory entries and ten minute file 
-> copies with hard disk thrashing.

I have posted before (can't remember which e-mail address I used) 
asking folks to share their LS-120 performance stats. No one 
responded! But what you're experiencing sounds worse than what I have 
here. Hard disk thrashing? 

Right now, I use my SuperDisks for archiving by way of Rexx files. 
This works nicely, and I'm glad I bought the LS-120! But accessing the
disks graphically IS a problem and a BUG and should be FIXED,

My LS-120 works well when viewed graphically in Wintendo. The way 
Wintendo handles it involves some caching, and I suppose a better 
driver strategy. Since the LS-120 is definitely a great drive to have 
under Wintendo, I was thinking of writing a PM app to cache the 
content of the disk and minimize reads/writes (or maybe put them on a 
lower-priority thread). I work mostly in OS/2.

The problem with what I plan is that you'd have to access the 
SuperDisk mostly through my app. Would that bother any of you?







--
Marko
Ottawa

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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                13-Sep-99 09:19:13
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: Need Warp red spline to use h:\windows instead of c:\windows.

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <eleS4DQ3N6dS-pn2-8S5lqDGhdlIn@tam-fl2-01.ix.netcom.com>,
rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) writes:
>I installed W98.  I've got Warp 3, FP40 Red spline (furnish your own
>windows).
>
>However, a while back I copied windows to a HPFS drive for use under
>OS/2.  It works fine except whenever I do certain things that involve
>windows (like video drivers and plug in packs for Netscape) it wants to
>use c:\windows instead of the correct h:\windows.
>
>In the past I'd just copy my H:\windows to c:\windows and rename
>c:\windows to something else as a quick and dirty kludge.  Then if the
>file was modified I'd copy it over h:\windows.
>
>Is there anyway I can change this behavior so that the system looks to
>h:\windows?

   I think used to have WINOS2 code on an E: drive.  Is there
not a path selection from "Selective Install"?  Other than that,
I may have changed the WINOS2 path in the OS2.INI file, but it
was so long ago, I cannot remember much more.


baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    13-Sep-99 05:54:01
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: disc change

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <33408693714392237103326@LOCALHOST>,
Franck Mesnier <fmesnier@dial.oleane.com> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I had until then 3 hard disks, 2Gos, 6Gos and 8Gos with on the first disk
this 
>partitions :
>- BOOT Manager
>- 1 principal with DOS ( C: )
>- 1 logic with OS2 ( F: )
>I have the appropriateness to change this disc with a 10Gos. Could I simply
to 
>copy my partitions on the new discs of the style dos==3Gos os2==7Gos ( to not 

>have to rename all the overs, or have I always to respect the rule of OS/2 
>always in 1024 first cylinders ?

Two ways.  One is to use Drive Image from Power Quest.  The second is 
to use XCOPY /h /o /t /s /e /r /v /e for each partitions.  If the OS/2
partition is FAT, you'll have to run SYSINSTX to make the partition 
bootable.  You'll also have to run SYS on the DOS partition.  The Boot
Manager partition should be created with FDISK, when you are creating 
the others.


-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net                        13-Sep-99 05:57:07
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:

> Peter Moylan wrote:

> > Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net> wrote:

> > >Anyone know a way to make it stop appending ACSII 26 to the end of an
> > >HTML file?

> > I'm pretty sure you can't.  Luckily there are plenty of other
> > editors around.
 
> I know I looked at patching it to do this. I can't remember whether I
> succeeded or not now. Will look when I get home...

Any luck?
-- 
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes
wisdom.                Proverbs 11:2 NKJV

 Team OS/2

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net


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From: bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net                        13-Sep-99 06:02:12
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 10:36:28
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>

DG wrote:
> 
> In message <slrn7tgvro.pd.peter@eepjm.newcastle.edu.au> -
> peter@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan) writes:
> 
>  <=Luckily there are plenty of other editors...=>
> 
>    ...such as SmallEditor, Boxer and Kon, all shareware...
> plus Mr Edit [prog name change?] and also the "WebWriter"
> HTML editor, which are both offered now as freeware. All 5
> editors will allow writing of an HTML text file w/o the
> end-of-file marker.
>    There are still more OS/2 text and HTML editors that
> probably will do the same, either for free or low-cost.

They're not free if installing them to take the place of E.EXE requires
hours of research to find WPS association objects to change and to
discover how to reconfigure to default to the replacement.

I like E. It's simple and has only the one bothersome flaw in that web
pages display the character as a box and validators object to it
following the HTML.
-- 
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes
wisdom.                Proverbs 11:2 NKJV

 Team OS/2  ***  Rotary ONLY since 1973

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From: possum@tree.branch                                13-Sep-99 11:23:16
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:05
Subj: Re: HTML association and StarOffice

From: possum@tree.branch (Mike Trettel)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:40:07 -0400, Raphael Tennenbaum 
<raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>possum@tree.branch (Mike Trettel) wrote:
>
>>Can anyone give any tips on how to remove the html association SO 5.1
>>rudely hijacked on me when I installed it?  I would like to reset to
>>default to NS/2, but SO 5.1 appears to have created a WPS class or the
>>like.  Tips and pointers are gratefully appreciated.
>
>
>Some time ago Winifried Tilanus showed the way to get rid of 
>SO's very sticky registration.  Worked for me:
>
>------- cut here ---------
>/* DELCLASS.CMD This REXX program destroys classes  */
>Call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
>Call SysLoadFuncs
>class = "StarWriterHtmlFile"
>
>rc = SysDeregisterObjectClass(class)
> if rc = 1 then
>   do
>     say "Class "class" destoyed OK"             end
>  else
>   do
>     say "Class "class" Destroy failed"             end
>------- cut here -------
>
>-- 
>Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
>readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

Thanks-I'll give it a shot when I get home.

One of these days I'll really have to learn REXX-it seems it can do
anything.
-- 
===========
Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net

I don't buy from spammers.  No exceptions.  Fix the reply line to mail me.

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    13-Sep-99 06:56:17
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:05
Subj: [VOICE] Speakup with SCOUG and Warp Expo West

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

VOICE reminder : Speakup Monday September 13 8:00pmEDT 5:00pmPDT 0:00GMT
Providing ongoing support, information and education to the OS/2 community.
---------------------------------------------------------------
These are exciting times for Warpheads!  Two really big shows are
coming up to show off our pride and joy -- Warp Expo West in Los
Angeles on September 18th, and Warpstock '99 in October.  And
we're going all out to make sure you're involved, even if you can't
come to town.  We'll be fine tuning our activities in public meetings
on IRC on the #VOICE channel Monday, 8 PM EDT (0000UTC) and
on the #SCOUG channel Wednesday, 7PM PDT (0200UTC).

The VOICE meeting is a Speakup to work out some of the logistical
details of our participation in these events.  We'll have continuous
chat, interviews, SpeakUps with Warp dignitaries, live pictures and
other information directly from the convention floors!

Visit http://www.scoug.com/internet/expo/index.htm :  Expo communications
will be crucial. Please review this page and comment on the materials and
plans at the Speakup.

We want to do it right, and we need your help.  The SCOUG meeting will fine
tune the content as we approach the big date with Expo.  Watch the
web site at http://www.scoug.com/chat for presentation materials,
as well as information about how to get connected and join us.



--
**************************************************************
*  Dan Casey                                                 *
*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
**************************************************************
*  E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key             *
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From: wsonna@ibm.net                                    13-Sep-99 12:20:04
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: Imation IDE Super Disks and OS/2

From: wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:17:04, muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko) wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:01:04, wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna) made 
> history by saying:
> 
> <much snippage>
> 
> -> Anyone contemplating the purchase of an LS-120 drive for OS/2 should 
> -> (in my opinion) look elsewhere, unless you are positive you will be 
> -> content to use it exclusively in a command line environment
> 
> Factors to consider before coming to the above conclusion:
> - new buyers will receive the new said-to-be-faster drives, which may 
> help
> - LS-120 is excellent for backups using Rexx (which you can launch 
> from the Workplace Shell)
> - IBM ~may~ make a better driver 
> 
> -> 
> -> I really have no way of knowing if it is the hardware itself or the 
> -> driver, but for whatever reason, it simply doesn't work acceptably.  
> -> My personal guess is that it IBM's driver is the culprit.  I can see 
> -> no other way to explain double directory entries and ten minute file 
> -> copies with hard disk thrashing.
> 
> I have posted before (can't remember which e-mail address I used) 
> asking folks to share their LS-120 performance stats. No one 
> responded! But what you're experiencing sounds worse than what I have 
> here. Hard disk thrashing? 
> 
> Right now, I use my SuperDisks for archiving by way of Rexx files. 
> This works nicely, and I'm glad I bought the LS-120! But accessing the
> disks graphically IS a problem and a BUG and should be FIXED,
> 
> My LS-120 works well when viewed graphically in Wintendo. The way 
> Wintendo handles it involves some caching, and I suppose a better 
> driver strategy. Since the LS-120 is definitely a great drive to have 
> under Wintendo, I was thinking of writing a PM app to cache the 
> content of the disk and minimize reads/writes (or maybe put them on a 
> lower-priority thread). I work mostly in OS/2.
> 
> The problem with what I plan is that you'd have to access the 
> SuperDisk mostly through my app. Would that bother any of you?
> 

Not at all.  As I said in my post, the disk is OK in a command line 
environment.  If you can improve its performance, so much the better.

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From: vikin17@ibm.net                                   13-Sep-99 15:07:25
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: travelmate

From: vikin17 <vikin17@ibm.net>

I have just bought a travelmate 512T and, of course the HD is not
recognized by the installer (aurora or warp 4) it simply stops at
loading IBM1S506.add at installation disk 1
the fixes for >8Gb do not simply make any differences.
I'm in big troubles

thanks
paolo

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From: verysoft@wr.com.au                                13-Sep-99 12:17:26
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: OS/2 Dialup With REXX

From: verysoft@wr.com.au (Max)

"Jordan Reed" <reedjd@bitsmart.com> wrote:

>  I'm running Warp4 and interested in doing a little automation of the dialup
>process, but not sure how possible it is.  I like to have a REXX script that
>will automatically connect me to the internet and than preform a bunch of
>tasks for me.  I'm currently using the builtin "Dial Other Internet
>Providers" to connect to my ISP.  Is this possible to work from command line?
> Suggestions?

>-JOrdan


My provider posted a small rexx script, I never really bothered to get
it going though, but if you want a start point I can mail it to you...

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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  13-Sep-99 09:30:13
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: Need Warp red spline to use h:\windows instead of c:\windows.

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

Ron Gibson wrote:

> I installed W98.  I've got Warp 3, FP40 Red spline (furnish your own
> windows).
>
> However, a while back I copied windows to a HPFS drive for use under
> OS/2.  It works fine except whenever I do certain things that involve
> windows (like video drivers and plug in packs for Netscape) it wants to
> use c:\windows instead of the correct h:\windows.
>
> In the past I'd just copy my H:\windows to c:\windows and rename
> c:\windows to something else as a quick and dirty kludge.  Then if the
> file was modified I'd copy it over h:\windows.
>
> Is there anyway I can change this behavior so that the system looks to
> h:\windows?
>
>                       email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

Just copying /windows to another drive/partition won't work without
updating paths inc autoexec and Win/system ini's.
One assumes you did make at least a token effort to originally do this but
perhaps (depending on Netscape version) you just missed it's ini or an
asscociated one?

--
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"




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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr                            13-Sep-99 14:08:19
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: the future of os/2

From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:27:22 -0400, James Knott <jknott@ibm.net> wrote:
>In article <jawed-0909992308330001@b-wingpl046.comlink.ne.jp>,
>jawed@comlink.ne.jpx (Ahmad Jawed Hirobumi Atif) wrote:
>>
>>In article <8wl13odSRYaX089yn@ibm.net>, jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)
>>wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:08:36 +0100, Martin Lafaix wrote:
>>> 
>>> > (and heating too, as computers are not the most effective heating
>>> > devices :-).]
>>> 
>>> Actually, they're quite effective. Every bit of electricity that
>>> enters the computer, is eventually converted to heat, one way or
>>> another.
>>
>>I don't have data to refute what you are saying, however, I think that
>>at least monitors are not heat efficient, because some energy is
>>dissipated in electromagnetic field such as light.
>
>And what happens to that light?  Eventually, it will be absorbed by
>something, somewhere and be converted to heat.  

Naah, it ends up in the fridge. Just open its door: There it is, light
and bright inside. 

>Since most computers are used inside, that light will be absorbed by
>the walls, contents, etc.  All energy eventually degrades to heat.

Without going into details ... how about potential energy, say, that of
the brick lying on top of my desk? 

(All right, one day the desk will decay to dust, the brick fall through
it, turning potential into kinetic energy, then hitting the floor,
generating indirectly heat via sound (density fluctiations in the
various media) and shock waves, and direct heat via friction. Not to
speak of the heat the exercise of me getting it onto my desk in the
first place generated ...)

Can't beat that entropy thingy, can one? Now, would someone please help
me stop my perpetuum mobile?

 Cheers,
            Stefan


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From: sharonp@homemail.com                              13-Sep-99 14:19:11
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: Palm Oilot

From: sharonp@homemail.com (Sharon Parks)

:>StarOffice 5.1 (now from Sun).  Free, nice, works.
:>
:>http://www.sun.com/staroffice/
:>
:>Tony.
:>
:>
:>
:>{}{}{} Posted via Uncensored-News.Com, http://www.uncensored-news.com {}{}{}
:>{}{}{}{} Only $8.95 A Month, - The Worlds Uncensored News Source {}{}{}{}
:>{}{}{}{}{} Five News Servers with a BINARIES ONLY Server {}{}{}{}{}

I installed Star Office, but the Palm Pilot option remains grayed out even
though I have tried to install it several times.  Do I need an updated version
of Java?  If so, what is the file name and how do I install it?

Thanks for any help.

Sharon

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From: dwinters@redrose.net                              13-Sep-99 10:29:05
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: ORB using "orin"

From: Dale Winters <dwinters@redrose.net>

Since 'castlewood" is draging their feet getting os/2 drivers out the
door for their parallel port model Im wondering if anybody tried using
orin code to get and orb parallel port drive working under Warp??? Any
help appreciated !!! Dale

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From: aldel@ibm.net                                     13-Sep-99 10:32:01
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: GLBSSTUB & Winos2???

From: aldel@ibm.net (ALDEL)

In <QiV23oXf0reb092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, on 09/10/99 
   at 03:14 PM, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)
said:

>aldel@ibm.net (ALDEL) wrote:

>>I cannot get a Dialer loaded to Winos2 (Warp4)
>>I get this error msg. no matter which one I try.
>>
>>< Application Error>
>>GLBSSTUB caused a General Protection Fault
>>in module  ~GLC0005.TMP at
>>0002:B3ED.
>>Choose OK. GLBSSTUB will close..
>>
>>Everything else in Winos2 work ok,
>>but I need the dialer. ;-(
>>
>>TIA
>>Albert, Wa3fib.

>You probably have your reasons for needing the dialer, but
>usually Winos2 comm programs work fine once OS/2 has
>established the connection, so your best bet would be to see if you could
>use slippm.exe and then launch whatever else
>needs it.  

>Anyway, you don't say if you've tried anything to make it
>work.  One of the first places to start tweaking is the
>WinOS2 properties page: right-mouse-button click on the icon of the
>program, click on the "Session" tab, and press the WIN-OS/2 Properties
>button.  You may as well leave the radio button for "All DOS and WIn-OS/2
>settings" selected before
>you click on OK.  

>As you'll see, there are many, many things you can try. 
>COM_DIRECT_ACCESS set to "On" might be one; there are three
>other COM ones as well.  The problem you're having could be
>a result of any number of other seemingly unrelated things
>(might do to explain a little further just what happens when you try
>dialing):  things like mouse button behavior, video redrawing, memory
>management, session priority -- any of these might (or might not) be
>causing the problem.

>Let us know how things go; if nothing works try again.  
******************************
Tnx much for the help.
Did all u said, nothing worked. rebooted etc.
Kept trying this and other things, suddenly the Da--
thing worked!!!. Don't know why.
Seems no one ever heard of that error msg.
It is doing fine now, here's hoping.
Tnx agn, we owe u one.

Best regards 
Albert.





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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             13-Sep-99 15:41:02
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: Need Warp red spline to use h:\windows instead of c:\windows.

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:30:27, Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net> wrote:

> Ron Gibson wrote:
> 
> > I installed W98.  I've got Warp 3, FP40 Red spline (furnish your own
> > windows).
> >
> > However, a while back I copied windows to a HPFS drive for use under
> > OS/2.  It works fine except whenever I do certain things that involve
> > windows (like video drivers and plug in packs for Netscape) it wants to
> > use c:\windows instead of the correct h:\windows.
> >
> > In the past I'd just copy my H:\windows to c:\windows and rename
> > c:\windows to something else as a quick and dirty kludge.  Then if the
> > file was modified I'd copy it over h:\windows.

> > Is there anyway I can change this behavior so that the system looks to
> > h:\windows?
 
> Just copying /windows to another drive/partition won't work without
> updating paths inc autoexec and Win/system ini's.
> One assumes you did make at least a token effort to originally do this but
> perhaps (depending on Netscape version) you just missed it's ini or an
> asscociated one?

Oh I've done all that.  Edited every ini file that needed it one at a
time. This isn't the first time I've done this. I started doing this back 
in the days of OS/2 2.11

Still whenever I do an update of some kind from OS/2 it looks to
c:\windows, and installs files there even if there is no c:\windows!
It will make a directory.

If I install a windows proggie under WINOS/2 it behaves properly.


                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             13-Sep-99 15:43:10
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: Need Warp red spline to use h:\windows instead of c:\windows.

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:19:27, baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky) 
wrote:
 
>    I think used to have WINOS2 code on an E: drive.  Is there
> not a path selection from "Selective Install"?  Other than that,
> I may have changed the WINOS2 path in the OS2.INI file, but it
> was so long ago, I cannot remember much more.
 
I think you're on the right track there.  I'll check the selective
install option and install over it.  Don't know what to do about the
OS2.INI file though.

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: piquant00@uswestmail.net                          13-Sep-99 16:12:29
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: HTML association and StarOffice

From: piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie K.)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:57:10, possum@tree.branch (Mike Trettel) wrote:

:Can anyone give any tips on how to remove the html association SO 5.1
:rudely hijacked on me when I installed it? 

 Deregister the class StarWriterHtmlFile.

-- 
Anthropomorphic Hamburger

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From: jvddoel@epo.org                                   13-Sep-99 18:12:00
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:02
Subj: Job opportunity for OS/2 system engineer

From: Jules van den Doel <jvddoel@epo.org>

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European Patent Office in The Hague, Netherlands. See:

http://www.european-patent-office.org/epo/ext_915.htm

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          13-Sep-99 17:13:04
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:02:24, Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net> a 
crit dans un message:
> > 
> >    ...such as SmallEditor, Boxer and Kon, all shareware...
> > plus Mr Edit [prog name change?] and also the "WebWriter"
> > HTML editor, which are both offered now as freeware. All 5
> > editors will allow writing of an HTML text file w/o the
> > end-of-file marker.
> >    There are still more OS/2 text and HTML editors that
> > probably will do the same, either for free or low-cost.
> 
> They're not free if installing them to take the place of E.EXE requires
> hours of research to find WPS association objects to change and to
> discover how to reconfigure to default to the replacement.

Hours? Seconds. Just copy the replacement directly on top of \OS2\E.EXE, 
and you'll swap in the replacement in all the old associations. This is 
what I routinely do with Mister ED when I do a new Warp Install.

> 
> I like E. It's simple and has only the one bothersome flaw in that web
> pages display the character as a box and validators object to it
> following the HTML.

Just one of E's most aggravating faults, in my opinion. With no saving 
graces at all. But to each his/her own.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 13-Sep-99 16:59:15
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

Oh right.  I learn something new every day :)


doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:

>FYI, the SCSI, and the ATAPI (EIDE)  drives DO work with OS/2. The 
>other models (PP, USB) will not work without a driver, which is 
>supposed to be under construction. I don't know the details about the 
>SCSI, but the ATAPI (EIDE) drive needs the latest IDE driver 
>(IDEDASD.EXE). Get, and READ, the README.RMS file, that comes with the
>new Device Driver Fixpack (this also contains the latest <?> IDE 
>driver). It has a lot of good information about using removable media 
>(I don't know how much, if any, of this information applies to the 
>SCSI drives).


Craig

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           13-Sep-99 18:00:10
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:56:26, rsmits@curmudgeon.bc.ca wrote:

> I haven't been able to see the beginning of this thread, so maybe I've
> missed something. Symantec has just announced it's going to include an
> OS/2 client version in it's next release of the Norton  AntiVirus program.
> (I saw it in Focus on OS/2 ezine). Why is everybody pissed off at
> Symantec? This sounds like a positive development.
>  

Haven't seen that anouncement. Hope it's true. We are pissed off 
because it was not available, to the single OS/2 user,  in the same 
way as that it was available to the single <pick your op system, 
except OS/2> user, on day ONE (which was also announced, when IBM 
turned over the reins to Symantec).

So, do we "wait and see" (again), or do we take action to protect our 
interests???

I always liked the IBM AV, it WORKED, and it did NOT impact the system
operation very much (most of the time, you couldn't tell it was doing 
anything at all). I know that the Win98 version of NAV does impact 
system operation, significantly more than the IBM AV does. I just hope
that NAV for OS/2 can step up to the standards set by IBM AV.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     13-Sep-99 19:28:11
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: Crash on Setup

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:40:01 -0400, Thomas Gibson wrote:

->    I am having trouble setting up OS2 Warp4 to run on my machine.  I am
->able to go through the setup screens and have the files install,
->however, on reboot, a crash with register dump occurs after the
->graphical startup screen appears.
->
->    My machine:
->
->    ASUS P2B with 300 Celeron
->    MACH 64
->    3.2 Quantum Fireball

Do an install and select VGA support for the video and see if that helps
(if you haven't tried that already). 

If you're overclocking your Celeron 300 then don't. Do the install at the
rated processor speed, apply the latest fixpack and _then_ overclock.

Is it always the same crash? If so, where?


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: david@cindy-crawford.com                          13-Sep-99 20:44:20
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: About os/2 OR win98...

From: "Dave M" <david@cindy-crawford.com>

YoooP!

Can i ask you guys a serious q? I'm interested in os2, and i think i could
really like it, but, i've heard the stranges this about it. If anyone
bothers to answer, i might join the small? group of users...
* os2 can't play mp3 files...
* it can not use IRports.
* it's slower then w98 when sufting the web.
* it's a pain in the ** to install
* there are about 3 applications for it...
* IBM doesn't develop it. Everyone says it's dead.
STILL i think i'm interested... Is there any 30 days trial version to dl.?
/dave


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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             13-Sep-99 19:00:11
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: travelmate

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

Have you tried the Danis506.add driver in place of IBM1S506.ADD?  It 
adds support for a number of non-Intel chipsets and fixes some bugs in
the IBM driver.   Also try turning off busmastering support add /a:0 
/!BM /a:1 /!BM  The docs for the Danis driver has excellent examples 
for how to gradually increase support to the highest level possible.  
The danis506 driver is on hobbes 
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/drivers/storage/danis506.zip

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:07:51, vikin17 <vikin17@ibm.net> wrote:

-)I have just bought a travelmate 512T and, of course the HD is not
-)recognized by the installer (aurora or warp 4) it simply stops at
-)loading IBM1S506.add at installation disk 1
-)the fixes for >8Gb do not simply make any differences.
-)I'm in big troubles
-)
-)thanks
-)paolo


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//             Healthcare Computer Consultant
//                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
//    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
//
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From: DCritel@ibm.net                                   13-Sep-99 15:31:20
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: Dave Critelli <DCritel@ibm.net>

Okay Max, but where did you unzip them too?  The root on the C drive?  Do you
know any of the file names on the unzipped disk?  If not, what is the name of
the zipped file?  Try doing a "dir name.* /s" from the root where "name" is
the base name of the .zip file?  We need to find that sucker!  It's got to be
hiding out on you hard disk somewhere.

Dave

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From: JHB@jita.demon.co.uk                              13-Sep-99 19:44:25
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: About os/2 OR win98...

From: JHB@jita.demon.co.uk (Jim Backus)

I'll try and answer your questions

mp3 files - don't know but expect there are shareware / freeware players
available
IRports - don't know - there is limited support for USB ports so there may be
for IR ports too
I doubt that OS/2 is slower than W98 on the same machine - I used to use OS/2
on a 386DX40 with IBM's webexplorer and it was adequate (yes that's a 386
although it has 16 MB Ram)

it can be difficult to install _but_ it does come with install disks that
recognise the majority of common peripherals - support for some devices can be
poor - take time to check that it will run on your hardware.  The first time I
installed Win95 I was horrified at the installation process - true it was an
OEM copy but the available help on the CDRom was non-existent.

Commercial applications are scarce - there are lots of good shareware apps see
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu for one of the biggest collections.

IBM continues to support both Warp 3 and Warp 4 - there is no immediate
prospect of a Warp 5 as a client - a server product does exist.

You'll certainly be joining a select band - I expect to go on running OS/2 as
my main OS until something better comes along - I use NT 4 at work and that
doesn't qualify as better - not impressed by what I hear of Win98 - don't
expect Win 2000 to give the improvements I'm looking for.

FWIW in my experience OS/2 multi-tasks much better than Windows - that
includes NT.  It is much more stable than Win95 and seems to need re-booting
less often than Win NT.

To evaluate OS/2 the cheapest method is to look for a second hand copy of Warp
3 - If installing on a large Hard disk (i.e. bigger than 2GB or thereabouts)
you'll need to get an updated IDE driver called IDEDASD from the IBM support
site.  After installing get the latest fixpack (40 I believe) and install that
(fixpacks include all earlier fixes).

OS/2 2.1 and Warp 3 was available in a number of versions - Red spine (from
the package colour) did not include support for Windows 3.1 unless you had a
set of Win 3.1 disks.  Blue spine came with Win3.1 support.  Warp 3 is also
available as Warp 3 Connect that includes peer to peer networking - again in
red and blue versions.

Good luck!

In message <cDbD3.340$yU2.917@nntpserver.swip.net> - "Dave M"
<david@cindy-crawford.com> writes:
:>
:>YoooP!
:>
:>Can i ask you guys a serious q? I'm interested in os2, and i think i could
:>really like it, but, i've heard the stranges this about it. If anyone
:>bothers to answer, i might join the small? group of users...
:>* os2 can't play mp3 files...
:>* it can not use IRports.
:>* it's slower then w98 when sufting the web.
:>* it's a pain in the ** to install
:>* there are about 3 applications for it...
:>* IBM doesn't develop it. Everyone says it's dead.
:>STILL i think i'm interested... Is there any 30 days trial version to dl.?
:>/dave
:>
:>



Jim Backus - Electronic Systems Engineer - OS/2 user by choice
 - member of Amnesty International
 - supporter of Proportional Representation
Bona fide  replies to jimb (at) jita dot demon dot co dot uk

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From: avengence-nospam@nospam-usa.net                   13-Sep-99 15:04:22
  To: All                                               13-Sep-99 19:48:26
Subj: AFS on OS/2

From: "Avengence" <avengence-nospam@nospam-usa.net>

Does anyone use the AFS client on OS/2? I found one vry old one, labeled as
being for OS/2 2.0. I'm trying to use it on WarServer for e-Business with no
success. I installed it as the directions said, configured it all, rebooted,
saw it load the IFS and al. When I try to logon with klog however, it says
"*** Error: find:afsinit_location: cannot open " and when I tried running
venus without logging on, it just dumped the entire cell list to the screen
and then closed with sys3175. Does anyone have any suggestions? An
alternative method by which I can access the files is Samba. However, I need
to get to a domain on a different subnet through a firewall, so OS/2 lan
client is useless. I tried the Samba port for OS/2 and it works but its like
a primitive FTP client. The server is running Samba 2.0.3 buts theres no
Samba 2.x client for OS/2 (the first version for linux that supported
mounting shares rather than the FTP client-style interface was 2.0 I think)
and it would take more than a simple port, rather a IFS would need to be
written to get Samba to this level.



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From: muses9@cyberus.ca                                 14-Sep-99 10:22:04
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: Imation IDE Super Disks and OS/2

From: muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:39:09, Serge Desaulniers <sd@NOSPAMvif.com> 
made history by saying:

-> > asking folks to share their LS-120 performance stats. No one
-> > responded! 
-> 
-> Ahem! I did answer your post!!!
-> 
Je te prie d'accepter mes excuses! En faisant la programmation pendant
la nuit, j'oublie de telles detailles importantes parfois!


--
Marko
Ottawa

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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      14-Sep-99 03:00:15
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <SKfw30zmCGmZ-pn2-vGEt4Z3HYld3@localhost>, doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug
Bissett) writes:

>I always liked the IBM AV, it WORKED, and it did NOT impact the system
>operation very much (most of the time, you couldn't tell it was doing 
>anything at all). I know that the Win98 version of NAV does impact 
>system operation, significantly more than the IBM AV does. I just hope
>that NAV for OS/2 can step up to the standards set by IBM AV.

Well, the present release of NAV/2 takes longer to scan my system
than IBMAV did and sucks *a whole lot more* system resources 
while it does so.  But running it a 3AM when nobody's using the 
system makes it a moot point.

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: verysoft@wr.com.au                                14-Sep-99 09:53:28
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: verysoft@wr.com.au (Max)

verysoft@wr.com.au (Max) wrote:

here are some last words, which I feel I owe you for your response.
I still haven't found the files, and i don't really feel like wading
through some 400000 files and compare them. I don't know of any
utility that enables me to sort tese different output formats and
compare them anyway.

For those interested I enclose the end stubs of the directory
command, one in DOS and one in OS2. Both commands where issued like
this: dir /s /o > filename, as also kindly suggested, it was a nice
exercise in brushing my commandline knowledge up.

here is the DOS statement:

->snip

MESSICON GIF      1143  11/08/98  9:14
NAVICON  GIF      1194  11/08/98  9:14
NETHELP1 CSS      2874  11/08/98  9:14
       8 file(s)       8566 bytes used
Total files listed:
   12631 file(s)  306849633 bytes used
                   78331904 bytes free

here is the OS/2 statement:

->snip
Directory of C:\XIRCOM\XAPPS\CEM33

15/08/99   1:26      <DIR>           0  .
15/08/99   1:26      <DIR>           0  ..
25/08/97  11:08     792576           0  XRES.DLL
        3 file(s)     792576 bytes used

Directory of C:\XIRCOM\XPS

15/08/99   1:27      <DIR>           0  .
15/08/99   1:27      <DIR>           0  ..
        2 file(s)          0 bytes used
Total files listed:
    15837 file(s)  439695109 bytes used
                    78103552 bytes free

I already deleted a couple files, but the difference is easy to spot.

...guess I just repartition on a rainy day :(

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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           14-Sep-99 11:12:13
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

John Hong (jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca) wrote:

: 	I only know of one program that doesn't work (in that it won't 
: install on Warp 3) and that is Lotus Smartsuite 97 for Warp 4.

Neither will Netscape v4.xx

Ian

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From: Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com               14-Sep-99 12:20:02
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: "Jan Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com>

>I'm debating whether to run Warp 3 or 4, with a strong prejudice
>towards 3. I prefer it because - in my limited experience - it loads
>and runs faster, and is more in keeping with the notion of an object-
>oriented system. (4's introduction of a Win-95 like bar and menus in
>various windows bothered me...)

I reacted just the way you are, but decided to use Warp4 anyway. Now I'm very
happy with that choice.

I switched the menubars off as soon as the system was installed, and removed
warp center. (However, I have grown to 'like' (it can increase productivity)
warp center).

>On the other hand, my version of 3 does not have out of the box PPP
>support.

Well.. Warp4 is nearly unuseable without fixpaks, so you're not going to be
able to use it 'out of the box'.

>So...do the advantages of 4 outweigh the disadvantages I mention above?

Warp4 is - from what I can tell - built from OS/2 for PowerPC, and OS/2 for
PowerPC is cool. :-)
(That is - if you what a nerdie reason)

Seriously; as I mentioned.. I reacted _exactly_ as you did, but I don't
regret installing Warp4.

>And: is 3 now so outdated that I must use 4 in order to take advantage
>of the last generation of OS/2 programs?

Not really.. Most Warp4 things are included in newer Warp3. However, I
suspect that most OS/2 developers are using Warp4, and that they don't test
their applications under Warp3.. But that's just a guess.


 /j



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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               14-Sep-99 07:29:18
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> verysoft@wr.com.au (Max) wrote:

Perhaps a small tool from Schotland FileGraf
(there is a Dos version also) might be able to 
find the dirs for you with excessive filenumbers
and sizes. Basically it builds a tree with the num-
ber of files and the total space used for those near
the directory-name. The subdirectories are included
in those and the plus- and minus-key allow you to ex-
pand or collapse the sub-directory trees. Tried to find
it on Hobbes (am not sure how I got it) but did not see
it there (anymore). Uncompressed it spans 80.000 bytes.
So if you want me to email it to you please let me know.

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               13-Sep-99 19:18:09
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: UPDATED GUIDE: OS/2 On Your Aptiva Machine!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Updated today, Monday, September 13th, 1999:

Aloha!  John Twelker has updated his most excellent guide:
"PREPARING FOR AND INSTALLING OS/2 ON AN IBM APTIVA 
PRELOADED WITH WINDOWS 98."  Well written and easy to follow, 
this is the installation guide you can follow if you plan on buying or
already own an IBM Aptiva machine and want to install OS/2 on it!   

Bookmark the url!

Public url:  http://www.warpcity.com/os2aptiva.html

Tim Martin
http://warpcity.com
OS2Guy@WarpCity.com
-------------------------------------


Posted Using: J Street Mailer (build 99.1.9.pvk (19990912))

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      14-Sep-99 01:26:24
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: Re: ORB using "orin"

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article <37DD0A37.4422F6E3@redrose.net>,
  Dale Winters <dwinters@redrose.net> wrote:

> Since 'castlewood" is draging their feet getting os/2 drivers out the
> door for their parallel port model Im wondering if anybody tried using
> orin code to get and orb parallel port drive working under Warp??? Any
> help appreciated !!! Dale

What the heck is "Orin"? Do you mean "Odin", aka Win32-OS/2?? If that's
what you meant, no dice. Win32-OS/2 only works on programs, not Device
Drivers.

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: rsgrimes@earthlink.net                            14-Sep-99 12:44:00
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: Re: -Modem Report- Actiontec 56k pci Internal

From: Bob Grimes <rsgrimes@earthlink.net>


tree@firstva.com wrote:

> Well, I should have said "preliminary Report".
>
> The installation went flawlessly, except that the card was hard to jam
> into my p60 motherboard, but I have limited experience installing cards.
>
> The cdrom comes with a utility to find out what i/o port, and irq the
> modem is on.  It also comes with a "new" com.sys to which you
> add the i/o and irq, and com#  parameters in the config.sys.
>
> Using injoy, it connected the first time, but only at 19200 v.42 bis.
> I will experiment with init strings and update this post if I have
> achieved higher speeds.  This modem also has a call-waiting
> feature, which I have not tried.
>
> Anyway, another 56k pci modem that is os/2 compatable.
>
> Oh, I am using Warp 3.0 with fixpack 40.
>
> Thanks to everyone who gave me modem advice in reply to my
> "2400 baud sucks" post.  This is a "controller based" modem.
>
> thanks again.
>
> Paul.
>
>   I picked up a Phoebe 56K external at a computer show for around $50 and it 
is on
> Com 1.  It works great.  I am running Warp 3, FP 32 and also Warp 4, FP 11,
works
> great on both.




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From: virobik@MAPS.onr.com                              13-Sep-99 17:25:22
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: Re: how to 'crack' the OS/2 Warp 4 trial ver?

From: virobik@MAPS.onr.com

This is easy. Go to: www.indelible-blue.com and place an order for 
OS/2 Warp 4. In a few days, you will receive a crack version of OS/2.

good luck,

Kevin

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:33:59, ertzi@saunaNOSPAMlahti.fi wrote:

> I remember that a while ago somebody came up with a technique to make the
> OS/2 4.0 45-day trial version that IBM gave away into the full
> version.
> 
> Does anybody still remember how? I have the trial package, I'd like to
> give it a try.
> 
> I don't read this newsgroup, so please mail me at ertzi@saunalahti.fi.
> The reply-to has anti-spam in it. Thanks.
> 
> --
> :: erno helen. musician
> 

virobik@MAPS.onr.com
Please remove "MAPS." when replying

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From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi                             14-Sep-99 18:06:01
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 20:40:17
Subj: Re: Need help with corrupt ea

From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio)

In article <rH7eN0GPEgDNYhK1pr=SUpMOAfWr@4ax.com>, PL <viewme18@hotmail.com>
says:
>
>Could someone tell me how to repair the corrupt EA on 2 of my Fat
>partitons. I can access them with File manager but not with the OS/2
>drive icons. 

A command line chkdsk /f should not make it worse.

Osmo

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From: anon@anonymous.co.uk                              14-Sep-99 19:20:21
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 20:40:17
Subj: REQ: Drivers for Cirrus Logic 5434 for OS/2

From: anon@anonymous.co.uk (Steve)

Greetz

I'm trying to get an old Cirrus Logic CL 5434 working with OS/2 (Warp
3.0) I managed to find some drivers on the net (can't remember from
which site now but the filename was K543x-d3.ZIP).

This isn't a branded card (for example like an Orchid Kelvin). I
suspect its just a no-name OEM version. It's very compact in size.

The driver installs ok and identifies itself as "Cirrus 5434 Generic"
on the System Setup/System/Display notebook page.

However the driver only provides a max resolution of 1024x768 @256
colours. The card is a 2Mb card so I was hoping to be offered
1280x1024 @256 but no.

I have tried (a borrowed S3) 2Mb card and those drivers did offer
1280x1024 @256 colours (which worked as well :) ).


So if anybody is using a Cirrus Logic 5434 successfully at 1280x1024
@256 please could you email me a copy of the drivers disk. 


TIA

Steve
----------------------------------
Email: soneil@wildn.freeserve.co.uk


PS Also tried the supplied Warp 3.0 Cirrus Logic driver but still
limited to 1024x768 @256.

I also have Linux and W95 installed on same machine. They see the card
as a 2Mb card and offer full range of resolutions.

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From: jkovacs@ibm.net                                   14-Sep-99 19:03:03
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 20:40:17
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: jkovacs@ibm.net   (Joe Kovacs)

In <7rlair$9qd$2@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)
writes:
>John Hong (jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca) wrote:
>
>: 	I only know of one program that doesn't work (in that it won't 
>: install on Warp 3) and that is Lotus Smartsuite 97 for Warp 4.
>
>Neither will Netscape v4.xx

Netscape v4.6.1b1 ran quite well on Warp 3 Red FP 40 here.

Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: will.honea@wcom.com                               14-Sep-99 20:38:16
  To: All                                               14-Sep-99 20:40:18
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: Will Honea <will.honea@wcom.com>


Ian Johnston wrote:
> 
> John Hong (jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca) wrote:
> 
> :       I only know of one program that doesn't work (in that it won't
> : install on Warp 3) and that is Lotus Smartsuite 97 for Warp 4.
> 
> Neither will Netscape v4.xx
> 
> Ian

Wanna bet on that?  4.61b2 is on the adjacent (busy) os/2 machine as I
type - along w/java 1.1.8.

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From: phillipd@antares.cloudnet.com                     14-Sep-99 23:31:02
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: Re: REQ: Drivers for Cirrus Logic 5434 for OS/2

From: Phillip Davenport <phillipd@antares.cloudnet.com>

Steve <anon@anonymous.co.uk> wrote:
> Greetz

> I'm trying to get an old Cirrus Logic CL 5434 working with OS/2 (Warp
> 3.0) I managed to find some drivers on the net (can't remember from
> which site now but the filename was K543x-d3.ZIP).

> This isn't a branded card (for example like an Orchid Kelvin). I
> suspect its just a no-name OEM version. It's very compact in size.

> The driver installs ok and identifies itself as "Cirrus 5434 Generic"
> on the System Setup/System/Display notebook page.

> However the driver only provides a max resolution of 1024x768 @256
> colours. The card is a 2Mb card so I was hoping to be offered
> 1280x1024 @256 but no.

> I have tried (a borrowed S3) 2Mb card and those drivers did offer
> 1280x1024 @256 colours (which worked as well :) ).


> So if anybody is using a Cirrus Logic 5434 successfully at 1280x1024
> @256 please could you email me a copy of the drivers disk. 


> TIA

> Steve
> ----------------------------------
> Email: soneil@wildn.freeserve.co.uk


> PS Also tried the supplied Warp 3.0 Cirrus Logic driver but still
> limited to 1024x768 @256.

> I also have Linux and W95 installed on same machine. They see the card
> as a 2Mb card and offer full range of resolutions.

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From: asuri@vpub.powernet.co.uk                         15-Sep-99 00:25:26
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: Adrian Suri <asuri@vpub.powernet.co.uk>

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"Annie K." wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:51:08, satkinson@a-znet.com wrote:
>
> :I'm debating whether to run Warp 3 or 4, with a strong prejudice
> :towards 3. ...[snip...]

Leaving the gui enhancements... The main issues are, as I see them,
performance
and
Networking Capabilities.....oh yes and the extras like open Doc (which seems
to
be only supported via Java) and the speech recognition stuff!

When got my first computer, it was an escom  P60, with 8 megs of memory and a
massive
540mb hard drive... I wouldn't even try running that on Warp 4, even with 16
megs
it is
still slow... However my P150 with 64 megs runs fine.... The main advantage of
Warp Four as I see it lies in better networking capabilities such as peer to
peer
etc.... which I thinks is at least one reason why it needs more
recourses.......

Adrian

>
>
>

--
asuri@vpub.powernet.co.uk

http://users.powernet.co.uk/vpub

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From: tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com                          14-Sep-99 19:22:25
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: tamarac@us.ibm.com

From: Timothy Sipples <tsipple@us.iNoSPAMbm.com>

Tamara:

Something wrong with your version of Lotus Notes?  I don't think there's
anything wrong with my end.

-- 
Timothy Sipples
IBM Network Computing Software
Chicago, Illinois
Web: http://www.satdirect.com/aviation

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From: whonea@codenet.net                                14-Sep-99 19:41:22
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 03:35:13, verysoft@wr.com.au (Max) wrote:

Get DFSEE (from hobbes) and see it that can help you.  There is also 
an EWS program called FILEMAN/2 that is very good for digging out 
directory details, but it won't fix anything.  DFSEE will tell you 
more things than you WANT to know.

> Thanks guys,
> 		but so far nothing worked, i tried a forced chkdsk first (reset:
> shame, shame), but it didn't show anything. There must be something
> really nasty in the actual partition file or so. 
> I feel that chkdsk is just not powerful enough, what worries me is
> that the dos programms, that show hidden and system files like xtgold,
> miss out on some 2000 files, if the space would be due to some
> swapfile or lost clusters, you wouldn't take 2000 files.
> Sofar i tried all the varieties of chkdsk, dir, fdisk.
> If I ever find out, i post a message.....
> 
> 				thanks so far :(
> 
> 
> 


Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: bchan@ibm.net                                     15-Sep-99 09:16:01
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: CD R/W drives

From: bchan@ibm.net (Bernard Chan)

Does anybody have experience using the Acer CD ReWriter (CDRW 4432A)?

Generally, what drivers or software are needed to make CD R/W drives work
under OS/2?

Thanks!

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Bernard Chan
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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 15-Sep-99 00:03:27
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <bexPS8LfLge6-pn2-jQdUdw7lyDHl@localhost>, piquant00@uswestmail.net (Annie
K.) writes:
>On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:51:08, satkinson@a-znet.com wrote:
>
>:I'm debating whether to run Warp 3 or 4, with a strong prejudice
>:towards 3. I prefer it because - in my limited experience - it loads
>:and runs faster, and is more in keeping with the notion of an object-
>:oriented system. (4's introduction of a Win-95 like bar and menus in
>:various windows bothered me...)
>
> You're not forced to use Warpcenter. Btw, in what way is it Win95 like? Just 

>curious.
>

tacky graphics. phony-looking '3D effect.' 'system registry.'  pandering to
least-common-denominator users. (IMO)

>-- 
>Anthropomorphic Hamburger


----------------------------------------------------------
Hrad ngravvrd
Windows NT - the Ornithopter of Operating Systems
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From: muses9@cyberus.ca                                 15-Sep-99 02:33:06
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko)

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:20:05, "Jan Danielsson" 
<Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com> made history by saying:

-> Not really.. Most Warp4 things are included in newer Warp3. However, I
-> suspect that most OS/2 developers are using Warp4, and that they don't test
-> their applications under Warp3.. But that's just a guess.

I run Warp 4 and Warp 3 Red and Warp 3 Connect. 

I do most of my development in Warp 3 Red fp39 with Win-OS/2 hacked in
from Warp Connect. I run Xitami web server in this as well. The 
reasons for my using Warp 3 Red &c are that it's easy to rebuild when 
I demolish it, and whatever I create in Warp 3 is likely to work in 
Warp 4. 

I like Warp 4 too, but I don't care a groat about multimedia so none 
of that stuff is ever used. And I prefer the launch pad, although I 
occasionally start WarpCentre to halt processes 
(killfeatureenabled=on). 

--
Marko
Ottawa

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From: raphaelt@worldnet.att.net                         15-Sep-99 00:40:00
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: dire need of HELP!

From: Raphael Tennenbaum <raphaelt@worldnet.att.net>

Last week my sound card blew up -- I guess, though at this point
I'm not sure about anything.  Within a few days, my Warp4
partition started misbehaving, and things got worse, to the point
where I recreated it from tape archives.  Then it worked -- for
three or four days.
 
Yesterday I started getting unusual error messages from Netscape
when I'd start it: "Cannot load RESDLL.DLL," it would say, and
then abend.  Other times, it seemed to get further along in the
process, but would then ask me to fill out a profile.  
 
At that point I figured something in Netscape had been corrupted,
so I deleted (moved) the directory elsewhere, and tried to copy
it back from another tape archive.  Suddenly, things got worse:
my Warp4 desktop wouldn't boot (popuplog showed PMMERGE.DLL as
the suspect.)  I tried backing out to the pre-FixPack6
PMMERGE.DLL with even worse results.  
 
So, I started over once again, and reapplied a tape archive of my
Warp4 partition.  Same thing: the boot would stall right at the
point where my desktop should have appeared.
 
So, for the first time in a while, I tried booting my Warp3
partition.  The first few times it seemed to work ok -- I checked
my email, looked up a few things in Deja to see if I could get a
clue.  Then I started trying to reboot, and all hell broke loose:
suddenly NONE of my OS/2 partitions would come up -- all of them
would trap, occasionally even before the logo appeared.  Most
were Trap 000Ds, but then I started getting a few Trap 0003s'!.
 
It became fairly clear that I was up against some dire hardware
situation -- but what?  I'd long since pulled the sound card and
remmed out the drivers in the Warp4 install.  I hadn't remmed
them out in the Warp3 partition -- but I was also getting traps
in the BOOTOS2 partition which I'm sure has no multimedia
support.
 
Right now I haven't got a clue.  W95 boots fine -- yee hah.  And
I'm not set up to do any work on that partition anyway.  I have a
hard time believing my SCSI drives have screwed up.  Memory's a
bit more compelling possibility; so is a bad motherboard.  But I
don't really know where to start testing!  At this point the only
cards in there are a Sportster modem and an ISA Matrox card. 
I've switched keyboards to no avail.  
 
Completely stumped (and tired & on deadline too).  Any
suggestions would be very much welcomed -- but if I don't get
back right away, give me a few days, cause I'll be trying out
whatever folks suggest -- or, installing new hardware bit by bit
(ye gods....)

-- Ray Tennenbaum, wishing he was riding his YZF-R6 in the middle
of nowhere right about now....

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From: verysoft@wr.com.au                                15-Sep-99 04:23:09
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: verysoft@wr.com.au (Max)

whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea) wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 03:35:13, verysoft@wr.com.au (Max) wrote:

>Get DFSEE (from hobbes) and see it that can help you.  There is also 
>an EWS program called FILEMAN/2 that is very good for digging out 
>directory details, but it won't fix anything.  DFSEE will tell you 
>more things than you WANT to know.


The DFS-utility was nice, thanks Will. Unfortunately it did not work
on my ailing notebook, reporting the disk is locked by another
process.
I tried .then to access via reboot- commandline and total reboot with
DOS.
Under Dos it only read one directory and then ended, under os2 it gave
some weird message 'rung own name' o.s..
I would have reinstalled by now (40+floppies), but I am worried it
could happen again
 


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From: muses9@cyberus.ca                                 15-Sep-99 04:25:22
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: ? possible to "format c: /s" with DOS from A:?

From: muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko)

Hi,

Is it possible to format C: /s from a DOS from A: instance? Or use Sys
c:?

--
Marko
Ottawa

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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi                             15-Sep-99 05:42:24
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: Re: Download Ia.n.i.!!! It's free!

From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:11:36, madQ <madq968@djeksta.comNOSPAM> wrote:
> 
> Download Ia.n.i. RemoteControlSystem 1.2 beta. It's free!!!
> New site: http://jump.to/IaniProject

There are tons of free, useful OS/2 software around. Would you care to
explain what Remote ControlSystem is and what is so special about it 
we all should feel a compelling need to download it?

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From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi                             15-Sep-99 05:52:07
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 03:00:26
Subj: Re: how to 'crack' the OS/2 Warp 4 trial ver?

From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard)

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:25:04, tom <tstreet@excel.net> wrote:
> 
> ertzi@saunaNOSPAMlahti.fi wrote:

[snip]
> > --
> > :: erno helen. musician
> 
>   Yes, I know how.  Place an ad in anyone of the for sale NG's saying
> "Wanted, full version of OS/2 v4.0"  and you will find it for around
> $45-60.oo"
> 
> Why steal it when you can own it cheap?  Its' a wonder ANY company
> publishes software at all with this kind of mentality out there.

Well, he's the musician who writes the following on his web page 
(http://www.saunalahti.fi/~ertzi/musatemp/musatemp.html):

	All music (c) urge / Erno Helen / Antava Osapuoli / muut 
asianomaiset. All Rights Reserved. 	Kyt vrin ja pakene itmafiaa. 

The last sentence is Finnish for "Misuse it and run away from the 
Russian mafia" ...

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From: k.staedtler@fenner.de                             15-Sep-99 14:04:04
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:21
Subj: Re: OS/2 look alike Window Managers

From: Klaus Staedtler <k.staedtler@fenner.de>


Robert Dohrenburg wrote:

> Hi,
> Does anybody know about any OS/2 look alike WMs for Linux?
>
> TIA
>
> Robert.

Oh yes ;-) got to http://dfm.masslinux.com/

Klaus Staedtler

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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             14-Sep-99 23:54:11
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: E.EXE

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:02:24 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:

>They're not free if installing them to take the place of E.EXE requires
>hours of research to find WPS association objects to change and to
>discover how to reconfigure to default to the replacement.

Well, SmallEd isn't free (it's shareware) but it's cheap. And replacing
E.EXE with it is simple. Just put smalled.exe and smalled.hlp in you're
/OS2 directory, then copy smalled.exe to e.exe. You're done. Leave
smalled.exe there too, cause every FP will reinstall a new (old?) E.EXE
over it so you'll need to repeat the copy smalled.exe e.exe afterwards.
SmallEd is fast, simple to configure, prints well, and has several
handy addins (for a small price) such as the html and unhtml add ins.
It also allows several predefined fromatting options that are quite
handy. The only thing it lacks is a spell checker. Eric was trying to
come up with that and syntax highlighting when I last corresponded with
him but I haven't heard anything about it since late 97 on those
issues. The highlighting would be a nice addition but not a real
necessity. Spell checking would be good, though.


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From: jsjones.@ibm.net                                  15-Sep-99 06:36:12
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: Microsoft Word 5.5b Download

From: jsjones.@ibm.net

Probably true. Word for DOS fans and most reviewers panned this release. Its
major 
purpose was to bring Word for DOS into the same pull-down menu structure as 
Mac Word, Winword and PM Word. There were no new features added, but it was a 
very cheap "upgrade" for Word 5 users. Of course, I always found the earlier
pop-up 
at the bottom of the screen commands even more cryptic than WordPerfect's -- 
Transfer/Load instead of File/Open, and such.

You can choose to use the Word 5 function key structure, btw, and I *think* 
it asked during install if Word 5 menu commands should be substituted, as
well.
I didn't try to install to a floppy, but the .exe is under 730k

Interestingly, Word 5.5 runs as an OS/2 program under NT, not a DOS program. 
And the same limitations on mouse usage in "graphics" mode apply under NT. 
I suspect Word 5 also runs under the OS/2 subsystem, but that I haven't tried. 
Yet. 

In <rhfYH11u7Pu0-pn2-lwCkELZSLCxt@localhost>, newbury@io.org (R. G. Newbury)
writes:
>If this is what I think it is, if you like Word 5.0, you will NOT like this.
>
>Word 5.0 was the last pure-DOS version. It used (uses) the pre-windows
>command structure: <esc> Transfer/Load not File/Load etc.
>
>The program files are quite small and a usable working copy will fit 
>on a 1.4M floppy. 


selectric.net? think international business machines, instead.

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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  15-Sep-99 01:40:11
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: Need Warp red spline to use h:\windows instead of c:\windows.

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

Ron Gibson wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:30:27, Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net> wrote:
>
> > Ron Gibson wrote:
> >
> > > I installed W98.  I've got Warp 3, FP40 Red spline (furnish your own
> > > windows).
> > >
> > > However, a while back I copied windows to a HPFS drive for use under
> > > OS/2.  It works fine except whenever I do certain things that involve
> > > windows (like video drivers and plug in packs for Netscape) it wants to
> > > use c:\windows instead of the correct h:\windows.
> > >
> > > In the past I'd just copy my H:\windows to c:\windows and rename
> > > c:\windows to something else as a quick and dirty kludge.  Then if the
> > > file was modified I'd copy it over h:\windows.
>
> > > Is there anyway I can change this behavior so that the system looks to
> > > h:\windows?
>
> > Just copying /windows to another drive/partition won't work without
> > updating paths inc autoexec and Win/system ini's.
> > One assumes you did make at least a token effort to originally do this but
> > perhaps (depending on Netscape version) you just missed it's ini or an
> > asscociated one?
>
> Oh I've done all that.  Edited every ini file that needed it one at a
> time. This isn't the first time I've done this. I started doing this back
> in the days of OS/2 2.11

In this context do you perhaps mean OS/2 2.1 for Windows perhaps?......
I don't readily recall a 2.11 for Windows manufacturing refresh or
applying 2.11 upgrade over 2.1(for Windows) but admittedly it's been
some years and my memory is tending to fail exponentially these
days...   <g>

> Still whenever I do an update of some kind from OS/2 it looks to
> c:\windows, and installs files there even if there is no c:\windows!
> It will make a directory.

sounds very symptomatic of PM_INSTALL >  WINOS2_LOCATION still having
old C:\windows path in it's key value perhaps....?
However, another couple of belt & braces checks:
1. What is result of SET PATH in a DOS FS session?
2. If you attempt to invoke both win.com and winos2.com from DOS FS
whats the result?

Apart from your original example of Netscape plugin failure can you
elaborate on your statement above "...when I do an update of some kind
from OS/2....." please?
Does that simply refer to invoking typically SETUP(for a win app) from
OS/2 desktop (ie without starting winos2 session specifically) or from
OS/2 cli window...or something else?

> If I install a windows proggie under WINOS/2 it behaves properly.

Ahh but the current directory is then correct so it still definitely
sounds like default WINOS2/WINDOWS path (used when invoking a winapp
setup/install from OS/2 Desktop rather than from within a winos2
session)  has not been correctly updated in appropriate  OS2 ini.....
Sorry to be persistent but admittedly I obviously wasn't definitive
enough previously....
So with all due respect  it may be that you still havn't checked "...ini
or an associated one..." as per my original response and "...edited
every ini that needed it...." still didn't include the OS2 ini that I
most stupidly(and lazily) didn't explicity state in
my original remarks?

So as a sanity check on your OS2.ini could you please append the
PM_INSTALL application for WINOS2_LOCATION key value please?
While you're delving in OS2.ini, do you have all other winos2/windows
paths (eg in PM_FONTS perhaps) updated as well?
Have you got a suitable ini editor or do you need relevant REXX SysIni()
function calls to retrieve(and update if necessary) the appropriate
values?
Also could there be multiple instances of win.com and/or winos2.com on
H: (or still left elsewhere on C:)  ? ......but I'd expect different
error symptoms if that were the case....
Other than that or possibility that you may still have (missed) a
c:\windows preceding h:\windows in a path statement somewhere I can't
personally immediately think of another explanation, right now. ...  :-(

If none of above points to the problem or you don't get solution from
someone else then I'll try and locate my copy of Warp Red Pak on my old
340Mb spare drive in case my failing memory has let us down again... 
(Warp3 halfpak + first few FP's used to cause TrapE's on  my Thinkpad
winos2 sessions which was eventually cured by migrating to Full pak in
late 95 and I rarely touched Red spine since other than a relative few
client Red Connect PC's in 96.... ) :-(

Apologies if any/all of above is "far too basic" and has already been
done and you may well be more conversant with OS/2 than myself.....  
but by virtue of your original question and responses I still cannot
ascertain your existing knowledge sufficiently to avoid the potential of
inadvertently insulting you by stating the (arguably) obvious(to
some)<g>?
Thus no offence intended (or taken I hope)....
....and obviously my apologies if I'm therefore still wasting both our
time further.....

>                       email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

 --
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"


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From: whonea@codenet.net                                15-Sep-99 01:41:08
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:26:15, Christian Hennecke 
<christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:

 
> AFAIK there are some programs that can only be run under Warp 3 if
> you're doing some tricks adjustment.
> What's more intesting is that IBM announced end-of-service for Warp 3,
> but NOT Warp 3 Connect. I don't know how hard it will be to apply
> fixpaks for Warp 3 Connect to plain Warp 3.

According the the latest posting of products ( 
http://www.as.ibm.com/asww/sl/products/US/platform.pdf ) Warp version 
3 is out of service in all flavors.  Warp Server, which is based on 
but not identical to Warp 3, is supported until 1-31-2001.  Further, 

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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                15-Sep-99 08:08:17
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: REQ: Drivers for Cirrus Logic 5434 for OS/2

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

Hi Steve:

   I have installed 5426, 5430, and 5434 cards, and I am pretty
sure that I was running at least one 2 MB card with 1280x1024@
8bpp and 1024X768 @ 16bpp.  I am also pretty sure that the
embedded drivers worked for this.  What may be possibly tripping
you up, is the monitor setting.  Have you run CLMODE, or have
you selected a correct monitor setting from the "Settings"
notebook?

In <37df9e9c.3747606@news.freeserve.net>, anon@anonymous.co.uk (Steve) writes:
>Greetz
>
>I'm trying to get an old Cirrus Logic CL 5434 working with OS/2 (Warp
>3.0) I managed to find some drivers on the net (can't remember from
>which site now but the filename was K543x-d3.ZIP).
>
>This isn't a branded card (for example like an Orchid Kelvin). I
>suspect its just a no-name OEM version. It's very compact in size.
>
>The driver installs ok and identifies itself as "Cirrus 5434 Generic"
>on the System Setup/System/Display notebook page.
>
>However the driver only provides a max resolution of 1024x768 @256
>colours. The card is a 2Mb card so I was hoping to be offered
>1280x1024 @256 but no.
>
>I have tried (a borrowed S3) 2Mb card and those drivers did offer
>1280x1024 @256 colours (which worked as well :) ).
>
>
>So if anybody is using a Cirrus Logic 5434 successfully at 1280x1024
>@256 please could you email me a copy of the drivers disk. 
>
>
>TIA
>
>Steve
>----------------------------------
>Email: soneil@wildn.freeserve.co.uk
>
>
>PS Also tried the supplied Warp 3.0 Cirrus Logic driver but still
>limited to 1024x768 @256.
>
>I also have Linux and W95 installed on same machine. They see the card
>as a 2Mb card and offer full range of resolutions.


baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: davek@clark.net                                   15-Sep-99 10:17:06
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Raphael Tennenbaum (raphaelt@worldnet.att.net) wrote:                 

: Last week my sound card blew up -- I guess, though at this point 
: I'm not sure about anything.  Within a few days, my Warp4 partition 
: started misbehaving, and things got worse, to the point where I 
: recreated it from tape archives.  Then it worked -- for three or 
: four days.
...
                                                          
Have you checked system voltages?  What caused the sound card to blow?
I would distrust your entire system until it's been thoroughly checked
out.  Almost anything that has gone flakey could be causing this
problem: CPU, memory, controllers, disk drives...

BUT, win<yuk>95 is still a DOS shell and doesn't really "use" the
hardware.  OS/2 uses the HW and is probably the best HW tester that
I've found -- if there's a problem with the HW, OS/2'll find it.
Remember, everything was working ok and reliably before the sound card
problem.

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                15-Sep-99 13:59:27
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Junkbuster/2 blockfile

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Hello all,
	Can anyone recommend a good blockfile for Junkbuster
available for download?  I've looked with Hotbot and come up empty. 
The manual says there may be people posting their excellent
blockfiles about.  Any leads appreciated.

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                15-Sep-99 13:54:19
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 11:00:22
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Have you checked *every* connection from anything to anything else? 
There's the off-chance it'sthe power supply or the mobo connections. 
I'd check the power supply too if you're set up for that, a bad
supply might give very strange symptoms, and like the previous poster
said I'd wonder why the sound card sunk.  Are you using the same slot
for another card successfully?  And are you certain it's not faulty
memory, at least at this point (if the sound card was damaged, maybe
SIMMS are too?)?  Post back if you can to let us know what's
happening and good luck!    

Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: letoured@sover.net                                15-Sep-99 11:44:20
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 15:44:15
Subj: Re: CD R/W drives

From: letoured@sover.net

You can check RSJ CD Writer at: www.rsj.de -- Somewhere at the site is a
list of supported drives.

I think there is some freeware ports from Unix, but I don't know anything
about it.



>Does anybody have experience using the Acer CD ReWriter (CDRW 4432A)?

>Generally, what drivers or software are needed to make CD R/W drives work
>under OS/2?

>Thanks!


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: letoured@sover.net                                15-Sep-99 12:00:10
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 15:44:15
Subj: Re: Crash on Setup

From: letoured@sover.net

This is just a wild guess but there might be a confilict with the ATI
card. Try installing for VGA and not the ATI card.  

If it works, if it works there might be a conflict with the card. Use
review /irq to see what Irq's are free/used and the boot from a DOS floppy
and go through the set up for the ATI card to use a free IRQ.

Also if the ATI card is ISA (is it), then go into the MB bios and turn off
the PnP for the slot it is in.


>    I am having trouble setting up OS2 Warp4 to run on my machine.  I am
>able to go through the setup screens and have the files install, however,
>on reboot, a crash with register dump occurs after the graphical startup
>screen appears.

>    My machine:

>    ASUS P2B with 300 Celeron
>    MACH 64
>    3.2 Quantum Fireball

>    I have OS2 as a 501MB partition at the head of the disk and am trying
>to use OS2 BootManager.  I experience this problem even with a minimal
>install(no sound, etc)

>    I am aware there are quit a few patches to OS2.  Where is the
>definite source of these and is there any simple(free) way to determine
>at least what patches are critical enough that they must be applied ?

>    Is there a way to determine the exact release version ?

>    Is there a way to bypass any unneccessary intialization which could
>be problematic ?

>    Any help greatly appreciated!!!

_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca                         15-Sep-99 19:26:17
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 20:07:15
Subj: Re: CD R/W drives

From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca (Martin Racette)

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:44:40, 
letoured@sover.net wrote:

> You can check RSJ CD Writer at: www.rsj.de -- Somewhere at the site is a
> list of supported drives.
> 
> I think there is some freeware ports from Unix, but I don't know anything
> about it.
> 
> 
> 
> >Does anybody have experience using the Acer CD ReWriter (CDRW 4432A)?
> 
> >Generally, what drivers or software are needed to make CD R/W drives work
> >under OS/2?
> 
> >Thanks!
> 
> 
> _____________
> Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>
> 

The only freeware that I'm aware of is 
"CDRecorder/2" nad it's support only 
SCSI drives

//-------------------------
Good Luck

Bonne Chance

Martin

http://205.237.57.73/

ICQ #48552954

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From: fegehrke@worldnet.att.net                         15-Sep-99 15:20:02
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 20:07:15
Subj: Diamond Viper v770 os/2?

From: Forrest Gehrke <fegehrke@worldnet.att.net>

Hello,
I have been told by a Win98 user the Diamond Viper V770
is a pretty good video card. But the question is: does
a driver exist for it under OS/2?
//

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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  15-Sep-99 18:28:17
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 20:07:15
Subj: (1/2) Re: dire need of HELP!

From: Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net>

Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:

> Last week my sound card blew up -- I guess, though at this point
> I'm not sure about anything.  Within a few days, my Warp4
> partition started misbehaving, and things got worse, to the point
> where I recreated it from tape archives.  Then it worked -- for
> three or four days.
>
> Yesterday I started getting unusual error messages from Netscape
> when I'd start it: "Cannot load RESDLL.DLL," it would say, and
> then abend.  Other times, it seemed to get further along in the
> process, but would then ask me to fill out a profile.
>
> At that point I figured something in Netscape had been corrupted,
> so I deleted (moved) the directory elsewhere, and tried to copy
> it back from another tape archive.  Suddenly, things got worse:
> my Warp4 desktop wouldn't boot (popuplog showed PMMERGE.DLL as
> the suspect.)  I tried backing out to the pre-FixPack6
> PMMERGE.DLL with even worse results.
>
> So, I started over once again, and reapplied a tape archive of my
> Warp4 partition.  Same thing: the boot would stall right at the
> point where my desktop should have appeared.
>
> So, for the first time in a while, I tried booting my Warp3
> partition.  The first few times it seemed to work ok -- I checked
> my email, looked up a few things in Deja to see if I could get a
> clue.  Then I started trying to reboot, and all hell broke loose:
> suddenly NONE of my OS/2 partitions would come up -- all of them
> would trap, occasionally even before the logo appeared.  Most
> were Trap 000Ds, but then I started getting a few Trap 0003s'!.
>
> It became fairly clear that I was up against some dire hardware
> situation -- but what?  I'd long since pulled the sound card and
> remmed out the drivers in the Warp4 install.  I hadn't remmed
> them out in the Warp3 partition -- but I was also getting traps
> in the BOOTOS2 partition which I'm sure has no multimedia
> support.
>
> Right now I haven't got a clue.  W95 boots fine -- yee hah.  And
> I'm not set up to do any work on that partition anyway.  I have a
> hard time believing my SCSI drives have screwed up.  Memory's a
> bit more compelling possibility; so is a bad motherboard.  But I
> don't really know where to start testing!  At this point the only
> cards in there are a Sportster modem and an ISA Matrox card.
> I've switched keyboards to no avail.
>
> Completely stumped (and tired & on deadline too).  Any
> suggestions would be very much welcomed -- but if I don't get
> back right away, give me a few days, cause I'll be trying out
> whatever folks suggest -- or, installing new hardware bit by bit
> (ye gods....)
>
> -- Ray Tennenbaum, wishing he was riding his YZF-R6 in the middle
> of nowhere right about now....

Oh dear me Ray..... tis difficult to offer credible words of consolation
filled with hope, confidence and calmly thought out rationale  when one
is not experiencing your actual circumstances at the same time with a
recalcitrant and unsympathetic technically illiterate boss impatiently
fuming nearby no doubt......
While your splashing around that alligator filled swamp..... a
condescending offering from an onlooker on dry land reminding you that
your objective was to drain the damn bog, probably does not elevate your
humour/disposition...  :-(

Speculatively the symptoms are indicative of progressive HDD failure
and/or MBR corrupt.
Although if W95 is not exhibiting any symptoms(but as it's on C primary
and probably physically contigous with MBR it may not for some time<g>)
and is presumably on same physical HDD and is relatively close/adjacent
to first failing OS/2 partition on what is (proportionately) a much
larger overall HDD size than these two partitions combined then I'd look
at RAM/L2/CPU in that order..... depending on the feasability of
available compatable swaps.

Unfortunately you need to expand a bit more on what diagnostics you have
tried?
Personally I would :
1. temp remove any adapter cards.... and to rack my brains as to when or
how long since I replaced my CMOS/BIOS backup battery (a relatively
cheap lithium cell or whatever is probably the cheapest pre-req to any
other hardware  change and time involved in repeating any/all of
following<g>).....   A failing battery can be preceded by random
obscure  and apparently unrelated errors such as yours way before a
specific 162/163/165 (or your mobo equivalent) POST bios error message
is posted....
2. Run self test diags for my system board(inc RAM/cache) + HDD,
assuming one still has ones original diskettes? or is this the problem?
3. Then any non destructive SCSI adapter tests, ensuring my
passive/active termination and SCSI ID's had not mysteriously changed or
ribbon cables become loose/damaged or in too close proximity to a
RF/power source.....
4. followed by something like PC Checkit to soak test the
HDD,adapter,mobo and memory for a few hours.....
5. Re-insert adapters and re-run basic mobo + HDD tests + any adapter
tests available(If this passed I'd be tempted to remove adapters and
only re-install after OS/2 was up and stable)
6. If we got this far successfully then I'd boot from OS2 diskettes and
CHKDSK (preferrably the 32bit later version) on OS/2 partitions. Noting
any errors I'd then rename any chkdsk.logs....
7. From boot diskettes run Partition Magic preferrably followed by your
GLU utils and/or at least FDISK /QUERY
8.Depending on results and what Bootmanager you had and any errors
pertaining to partition....  I might be tempted to do a FDISK /NEWMBR
and re-menu my boot partitions.

- - - - - - - break for coffee (pass on the decaf for once) - - - -
and to reflect on any results and the fact that an apparent fault that
affects more than one bootable partition can only be partition table
corruption or an external common cause that is unlikely to be resolved
by further re-installs into existing partitions!
One now has to evaluate the feasability of diagnosis by replacement
compared to the potentially wasted effort/elapsed time of continuing
thru 9 -13 below.  Potentially first moving HDD to equivalent PC
expediently resolves partiton table corruption and SCSI/HDD error.
Followed by RAM/L2/CPU...... and of course one still has to
check/compare all those Bios settings, disk data transfer rates etc even
if one has diligently backed up ones previous working settings<g>.
However if one does not have the luxury of this comparative technique
one may be forced to discard the remnants of ones now stone cold coffee
and continue....after further thought as to whether one did actually do
a LLF initially when presenting both HDD + SCSI adapter together for the
first time all those many moons ago....(but one was persuaded by the
"expert" that said it was uneccessary because he'd done it for years
thru all SCSI/HDD models except coincidentally your exact combination
perhaps) ....and besides it's been working ok for ages!(Ha! - servo data
drift mumble mumble.... servo writer on edge of it's calibration who
knows?) .......    :-(
- - - - - - -return to work via mens room - damn coffee - - - - - - -

9. If I got this far then I might find I now have to do a SYSTINSTX  cos
partition doesn't boot at all or have FORMAT /L /FS:HPFS   and reloaded
from backup if there was evidence of massive corruption or lengthy
chkdsk errors...
10. If the WPS/Desktop is up and I've bypassed(or remmed) the obvious
config errors for adapters I've removed.....then either I'm working and
ready to re-insert adapters individually or staring at a now familiar
Trap screen.   :-(
11. If I've trapped then I diligently note ALL the register details and
any hints to failing module.  If it's Trap 3 (breakpoint left by
developer in application code) then I'd be looking at specific
application(if I could tell) that possibly now has configuration file
out of synch.
If it's TrapD (pmmerge included) then I'd look again at what
diagnostics(if any) I'd run on my video adapter. I'd then revert to VGA
and retry...... along with toggling my H/W detection on bootup(ALT+F1 >
F5/6) if this is still failing. I'd look at reverting to my originall
Archive install desktop(this should be VGA anyway), and eventually I'd
be stripping my config to basics and methodically(but
tediously)re-enabling each device/group at a time....
12. Finally if I'm still stymied and my maintenance(BOOTOS/2) partition
is still exhibiting similar problems then I'd be tempted to re-install a
minimal OS2 from CD in my production partition to see what happens.....
after rechecking my BIOS settings to ensure that these are defaulted but
still commensurate with my hardware yet temporarily disabling
L1/L2/Video cache(and removing/exchanging all bar minimum RAM to load
OS/2) in case the diags missed the fault....while not forgetting that I
might have a PCI SCSI card and ISA Matrox that possibly requires
appropriate PnP and legacy resources modified in Bios....<g>
13. If I'm still totally disfunctional without any useful guiding
failure messages during all the above then I'd append EXPLICITLY here
all that I'd done(in exact sequence) with ALL pertinent details of my
system configuration(not just a few tantalising but unilaterally
useless  and arguably unstructured extracts Mr Tennenbaum!...<g>).

I only ever reached unlucky 13. once when I first had V3 RedPak on my
new TP755CE 4 years ago, whose fault appeared to defeat both IBM Boca(
OS2 S/W) and IBM Yamato(Thinkpad H/W) development labs despite several
iterations of 20 "dump" diskettes and after many futile h/w
changes(resulting in a new thinkpad less case....almost)...being
eventually resolved by upgrading to WarpV3 Full pack<g>.
Far too easy for me to state the obvious steps as I more intimately now
know how my system is bolted together, the size of HDD's partitions, the
version of diags and most personal gotcha's that I've painfully
endured....
...Including recent silly ones like not LLF my new SCSI for my old
Adaptec 1522A inbuilt adapter and wondering why I had partition
corruption several weeks down the line.... (yea yea I know you can
often/frequently/always avoid doing it but I used to do it religiously
and decided out of laziness/curiousity to try installing as is for
once... never again - certainly not worth ommitting several hours LLF
compared to predicted several years reliable use unless you have
existing data and only prior to backing it up first anyway!....besides
if it's going to cough as an ELF I'd rather maximise the chance of
finding out prior to placing data on it<g>).
Like the entirely non-intuitive problem on a colleaques PC resulting
from using the New Idedasd package with an old ADAPTEC 1542CF and having
the IDE(of all things!!!) partitions greater than 1Gb....(worked fine
w/o AHA drivers)....  go figure...
Like stupidly forgetting in the "heat of the desperate moment" that
resetting the Bios to factory defaults required me to subsequently turn
off PnP/disable IRQ legacy adapter resources on the customers PC.....or
removing my dead Sound card had dislodged the L2 cache,memory or
unplugged the CPU fan.....even the ATX style power connector  .......etc
etc

I know just barely enough(to get myself into and out of a lot of
trouble<g>) by modifying the above process as I go along dependent on
results and without unecessarily hosing existing configuration or
partitions..... I've also backed up my partition tables seperately and
dessiminated various alternative backups of desktop,configuration
files(inc Bios) across various media. Thus say if I've successfully
loaded Desktop from install archive (or even a destructive Makeini) I
can reload my desktop customisations from WPtools backup,Rexx script or
Unimaint portable backup etc onto this freshly seeded base.
To suggest or even infer you may not have prudently had the forsight(or
even opportunity) to do similiar would not be helpful at this
juncture..... <g>
(but I know you have had GT utils once but are now using GLU so I don't
suppose there was a GLU(or) equivalent of GTDisk utility to
backup/restore partition tables and a chance of having current backups
if that is eventually determined to be a more likely
cause/solution?....   and you have Henks WPS backup on an accessible
partition/diskette presumably if the eventual outcome also requires a
desktop rebuild? )

To write other than a generic(and thus unhelpful non-specific) procedure
requires a LOT MORE detail of your system<g>. Following the above
"parrot fashion" without adapting it for your configuration (or
understanding what its doing and interpreting results) could result in a
lot of unecessary work (and potential impacts if the integrity of your
backups is questionable/unknown!).

Otherwise we'll be repeatedly inviting you to try(and/or comment on) the
obvious:
1. What's the specific mobo + h/w details etc
2. Partition and HDD type/structure viz FDISK /QUERY detailing any other
non/ working OS's(apart from W95/OSV3 already mentioned).
3. Type/location of applications wrt to 2.  Ordered by business
criticality..... (eg I must retain a WordProc and access to my network
server minimum.... followed by email....graphics with SVGA 1600x1200 res
at 16M colors.... my data on G: is also on a verified backup but I don't
have all my install disks/CD's for apps on F: and/or their
configs/customisations backed up....   my largest partition is 6Gb on G:
and takes 4 hours to totally restore via my Travan4  etc etc.... )
4. What diags/utils/chkdsk/partmagic do you have and results of what you
have tried over and above that already posted ..... apparently from your
Yamaha(or was it a Guzzi?) somewhere in the Mojave desert?<vbg>

We (the collective not the royal) can then no doubt fine tune/re-visit
the diagnostic path.....and supplement any missing diags/utilities with
appropriate reccomendations that hopefully won't subvert your bank
balance by requiring expensive software or purchases to enable heuristic
hardware swaps....or knee-jerk repetitive and ultimately futile total
re-installs....

....and if I subsequently found that my probem was caused by faulty RAM
that just happened to be non-parity memory then I would tend to become
quite sceptical about the claims that "parity" is now a uneccessary
expense given modern production yields/quality?
But then given my mobo supports it I wouldn't personally fit anything
but parity (or ECC if my PC was mission critical - discussions on double

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From: horseman@ibm.net                                  15-Sep-99 18:28:17
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 20:07:15
Subj: (2/2) Re: dire need of HELP!

bit parity errors uneccessary thanks... or statistical MTBF for
non-parity EDO whatever Dimms <g>)
Unless of course I had access to be able to readily "swap" memory out
somewhere early in steps 1 - 8 above before expending more time than
extra cost of parity<g>. ....gotta spare K6-2 cpu.....L2 Cache...etc?
Can you swap SCSI/HDD to another similiar PC?
Trouble is these iterative diagnostic analysis by replacement methods
may well be more expedient if we were all in your place and knew the
resources you had available and no doubt if they were easily available
you would have already done it<g>.

Or are we facing some desperate time constraint...panic attack here...?
--
Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net

with fond memories of Bonny 650, Velocette 350(Venom or Viper?), BSA
Goldy 500, Aerial square4 and "sticking the boot" in the chromed side
panels of "mouthy", anoraked, Lambretta'rised GT200 "WildCat" converted,
mirror & lamp bedecked "Mods" posing on their over-revving "hair dryers"
<vbg>.......
.....In halcyon days decades ago when it was "expected" for one to be
"stereotyped" by the mode of two(sometimes 3<g>) wheeled transport you
chose and your riding apparel in the UK.....  when men were men, boys
were boys,Hippies were unsure(but all peace and love....man),
Rockers/Greasers were social outcasts unless your Chapter membership was
uptodate(Yes Officer I always carry a spare bike chain in my denim
pocket)  and Mods were failed Teddy boys with Army surplus full length
parka's.... and females were a chauvanistic  accessory that one sported
on the pillion.... or occasionally "despoiled" on same said seat in
moments of "Mod"-less boredom....."allegedly"....<g>

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From: noone@llondel.demon.co.uk                         15-Sep-99 18:57:11
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: driver needed - HP35480A DAT

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:25:52 -0500, elmar schmeisser wrote:

>Good morning - I have an hp surestore tape 5000 external (scsi) which
>identifies itself as an HP35480A (firmware T503).  While
>backagain/2-demo can access it, the $149 price tag is a bit steep for
>me, especially since their win98 version is only $49.00 (!!).  My guess
>is that is because win98 auotmatically recognized the tape drive (via
>its "backup" program - thus making ba/2 for win98 unnecessary), and os/2
>doesn't.  OS/2's backup program seems to be a lamentable port of the dos
>text mode program that will only see "lettered" resources in the drives
>folder.
>
>Does anyone know of a device driver for this tape drive that will let it
>appear in the drives folder?  The various help entries seem to indicate
>that it should appear with the right drivers (e.g. help tape provides
>quite a few entries).  Many thanks in advance.
>
I don't bother with things like that. Go find the GTAK/GTAR stuff on
Hobbes and use that. I've got an HP DAT drive that has been used with
this software for several years with no problem, including several
complete restores onto different disk drives and when rearranging
partitions (not owning Partition Magic at the time).

Unless you really want to have a drive letter assigned of course...


Dave
-- 
mail dav e@llondel.demon.co.uk
http://www.llondel.demon.co.uk
Cricket: old English traditional variant of the rain dance.


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From: davek@clark.net                                   15-Sep-99 19:06:02
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Raphael Tennenbaum (raphaelt@worldnet.att.net) wrote:                 

: David Kunz wrote:                                                   
: > Raphael Tennenbaum (raphaelt@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: > : Last week my sound card blew up -- I guess, though at this
: > : point I'm not sure about anything.  Within a few days, my Warp4 
: > : partition started misbehaving, and things got worse, to the 
: > : point where I recreated it from tape archives.  Then it worked 
: > : -- for three or four days.                                      
: > ...

: > Have you checked system voltages?                                 

: No, I hate electricity.  I mean I like it when it's behaving but it 
: confuses me.  How do I check system voltages?  I will do whatever 
: I'm told (within reason).

Ouch.  That'll make it harder for you to proceed on your own.  If it
were me, I'd pull out the manual for my MB to get the voltages on the
power supply connectors and use a voltmeter to measure them -- without
the MB, and with the MB.  If I couldn't find my manual, I'd search the
net (using one of my hand-me-down computers made of parts that I've
upgraded :)).

: > What caused the sound card to blow?                               

: I can't really remember.  One afternoon a week and a half ago I 
: rebooted, and the XFolder startup wave kept repeating and 
: repeating.  At the time I thought it was some sort of ini file 
: problem.  I went through what seemed like 20 reboots before I 
: decided it was the sound card.  Only then did I boot into Warp3 and 
: get an IRQ10 error message on bootup.  I remmd out the ESS drivers 
: in Warp4, and figured that would get me through for a while until I 
: bothered to pick up a new sound card.  Then as you see, things got 
: worse tho not exactly in a hurry.                                   

: There may have been a mild thunderstorm the night before, but 
: everything runs off a UPC.

No guarantee.  A lightning hit can go right through even a good surge
suppressor or UPS. Depends on the hit itself.

: > I would distrust your entire system until it's been thoroughly 
: > checked out.  Almost anything that has gone flakey could be 
: > causing this problem: CPU, memory, controllers, disk drives...    

: I can't really afford a hardware consultant, I'm pretty much it. 
: Any step-by-step advice would be greatly appreciated.

After checking system voltages, I would get one of my HW test programs
out and run it.  If my system passes, I'd try the other one :).  Both
my programs are commercial and pretty basic -- they've rarely found a
problem, but then again, I've been lucky enough to rarely have a
problem.

Remember that flakey memory is *very* difficult to detect.  I've had
to run a memory test program for 3 days to get it to finally find the
bad sim that was causing OS/2 to crash within 5 minutes of boot...

If the HW tests out, I'd reset my CMOS.  If you can get a program that
wipes the whole thing, that works better -- sometimes a glitch puts
something in a non-configurable area.  If my BIOS is flash, I'd reload
it.

If I was still having problems, I'd start swapping out cards.  If I
have multiple banks of memory, I'd remove one then the other.

If I still have problems, all that's left is the MB and the disk
drives themselves.  Time to upgrade...

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    15-Sep-99 20:38:28
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 20:07:16
Subj: Re: Junkbuster/2 blockfile

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

OS/2 Fan (fat_ox@hotmail.com) wrote:
: Hello all,
: 	Can anyone recommend a good blockfile for Junkbuster
: available for download?  I've looked with Hotbot and come up empty. 
: The manual says there may be people posting their excellent
: blockfiles about.  Any leads appreciated.

	A really good one is located at http://www.waldherr.org/blocklist


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From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca                           15-Sep-99 21:11:23
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (John Hong)

	Just wondering, are there any caching software for OS/2?  Stuff
like Naviscope or Netsonic for Windows, what it does basically is do a
better job of caching (and some other things that I don't think matter for
OS/2).
	Another thing, if IBM does not intend to release just one fixpak
for Netscape 2.02, can they at least give us an option to download *just*
Navigator?  When one can download Netscape for Windows, you can either nab
the entire Communicator or just download the Navigator browser portion of
it.  It would be a satisfactory compremise, IMO.


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From: barbara@databasics.hurst.tx.us                    15-Sep-99 15:53:07
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Lotus WordPro will only save to a Root Directory

From: Barbara Barry <barbara@databasics.hurst.tx.us>

I have a brand new copy of Lotus SmartSuite. I have installed 
fix pack 11 for Warp 4. 

When I try to set the document location in the user 
preference,  I get the error message .. One of the paths is 
currently not a valid directory. You can use the Browse button 
to find a valid directory. When I select it with the browse 
button it still gives me the same error.

When I try to save a new or an existing document in H:\TXT I get 
the error message .. H:\TXT\test.lwp is invalid.

Neither of these errors if I use a root directory.

I've installed SmartSuite a couple of times, I have applied the 
latest Lotus fix packs, with no improvement.

I'm currently working with Lotus support, but I find it 
difficult to believe that I'm the only one to ever have this 
problem.

If anyone has an idea about what is going on, I would appreciate
some help. I am running on HPFS with multiple drives. At least I
can learn how to use it by saving to a root directory, but I 
would like to organize my document a little better than that.

Thanks,
Barbara



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From: possum@fred.net                                   15-Sep-99 22:03:05
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Java 1.1.8 install problems

From: possum@fred.net (Mike Trettel)

I'm having problems getting Java 1.1.8 to install properly.  Running
Feature Install 1.25 from the temporary directory I unzipped the
javainuf.exe file into results in the following cryptic error message:
"Unable to parse OS2PREF.JS. Exiting."

I've also tried to use the CID method, but to no avail.  I edit the
cid.rsp and cid.cmd files to fit my setup, running clifi.exe via the
cid.cmd script results in nothing but a beep.  I'm lost here-why did
IBM select this awful "Feature Install" thing anyway.  Cripes.....

OS/2 Warp 4, fixpack 10, NS/2 4.04 (128 bit), and FI 1.25. 

-- 
===========
Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net

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From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net                         15-Sep-99 22:10:22
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: OS/2 V.5

From: jpedone_no_spam@flash.net

For those of you without wprcst - you should subscribe ;-)

From: "WarpCast News Service" <feedback@os2ezine.com>
Newsgroups: lserve.warpcast
Subject: [WarpCast] Stardock client?  We'll know this weekend
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 99 12:31:06
Message-ID: <730011.47828703@jpedone.flash.net>
Reply-To: <news@os2ezine.com>

              Warpstock 99 - Atlanta, October 16-17, 1999
              Two fun filled days of OS/2 and YOU!
   Register by September 6, 1999 to receive a discount!
       Visit http://www.warpstock.org for full details.

****************************** WarpCast ******************************

Source: Steve Wendt (stevew@shocking.com)
Moderator: Christopher B. Wright (wrightc@dtcweb.com)
**********************************************************************
 
Subject:  September 17: Judgement day
Date:  Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:11:07 -0400
From:  "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@stardock.com>
Newsgroups:  stardock.os2

On September 16th, IBM executives will be meeting for the monthly IPMT
meeting.  At this meeting they are supposed to talk about the future of the
OS/2 client and the feasibility of a client published by a third party.

We are supposed to hear back later that day or on Friday (the 17th) about
what decisions they come to.

This means that we expect to be able to provide users with additional
information as to the status of the OS/2 client whether from IBM or from a
third party such as Stardock.

So stay tuned.  The wait may be almost over. ;)

Brad
---
Brad Wardell
Product Manager: Object Desktop & The Corporate Machine
http://www.stardock.com






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From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de                      15-Sep-99 22:24:04
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: Diamond Viper v770 os/2?

From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de (Carsten Frank)

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:20:04, Forrest Gehrke 
<fegehrke@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> Hello,
> I have been told by a Win98 user the Diamond Viper V770
> is a pretty good video card. But the question is: does
> a driver exist for it under OS/2?
> //

Yes, look on the www.nvidia.com

It is a good video driver. But I'm gone back to my matrox mytique, 
because I couldn't get more then 60 hz.
But the driver is fast and stable.

But you need at least fixpack 5 (Warp 4) for the gradd support. 
And you need install svga gradd before you install this driver.

And scitech display doctor will be available in the next future with 
tnt, tnt2 support. At the moment, I'm using the beta6 with my matrox 
card and he is very fast.
I'm looking forward to the next beta, which I hope has tnt support. 

Ciao

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 15-Sep-99 17:46:04
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: (1/2) Re: dire need of HELP!

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

In article <37DFD743.FE7F9382@ibm.net>, Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net> wrote:
>Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:
>
.snip on tale of woe>> 
>Oh dear me Ray..... tis difficult to offer credible words of consolation
>filled with hope, confidence and calmly thought out rationale  when one
>is not experiencing your actual circumstances at the same time with a

YOU'RE NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH !

>recalcitrant and unsympathetic technically illiterate boss impatiently
>fuming nearby no doubt......

Not yet she's not.  She's not my boss, she's my contractee
(fume she does, however, and funny thing, -- oh, forget it).

>While your splashing around that alligator filled swamp..... a
>condescending offering from an onlooker on dry land reminding you that
>your objective was to drain the damn bog, probably does not elevate your
>humour/disposition...  :-(
>
>Speculatively the symptoms are indicative of progressive HDD failure
>and/or MBR corrupt.
>Although if W95 is not exhibiting any symptoms(but as it's on C primary
>and probably physically contigous with MBR it may not for some time<g>)
>and is presumably on same physical HDD and is relatively close/adjacent
>to first failing OS/2 partition on what is (proportionately) a much
>larger overall HDD size than these two partitions combined then I'd look
>at RAM/L2/CPU in that order..... depending on the feasability of
>available compatable swaps.

I'm afraid this is a very cogent observation, I'm sorry to
say.  And now that I think of it (god, I'm a classic
computer dope) one recent chkdsk.log on the root of my warp4
partition looked so long to me -- *way* above the usual 24k
size -- that I actually dug up the IBM utility to read it. 
I thought it had indicated it had fixed things, but maybe I
was thinking wishfully. 

>
>Unfortunately you need to expand a bit more on what diagnostics you have
>tried?
>Personally I would :
>1. temp remove any adapter cards.... and to rack my brains as to when or
>how long since I replaced my CMOS/BIOS backup battery (a relatively
>cheap lithium cell or whatever is probably the cheapest pre-req to any
>other hardware  change and time involved in repeating any/all of
>following<g>).....   A failing battery can be preceded by random
>obscure  and apparently unrelated errors such as yours way before a
>specific 162/163/165 (or your mobo equivalent) POST bios error message
>is posted....

The box is but two years old, along with the ASUS P2L97. 
The battery *looks* okay, though I know this doesn't mean
all that much.

>2. Run self test diags for my system board(inc RAM/cache) + HDD,
>assuming one still has ones original diskettes? or is this the problem?

Don't think diagnotics that came with, but if there were
they're at the bottom of something, somewhere.  I've managed
to hang on to the Adaptec driver disks that came with it.

>3. Then any non destructive SCSI adapter tests, ensuring my
>passive/active termination and SCSI ID's had not mysteriously changed or
>ribbon cables become loose/damaged or in too close proximity to a
>RF/power source.....

I switched out my wide SCSI cable this afternoon just to
check -- no difference.  I doublechecked all the connections
as well.  I suppose if I can get this fixed easily (and
cheaply) enough I may resolved to get new cables.

>4. followed by something like PC Checkit to soak test the
>HDD,adapter,mobo and memory for a few hours.....

If anyone's got a pointer to a shareware source for this I'd
certainly appreciate it.

>5. Re-insert adapters and re-run basic mobo + HDD tests + any adapter
>tests available(If this passed I'd be tempted to remove adapters and
>only re-install after OS/2 was up and stable)

It's down to the video card and the modem at this point;
scsi adaptor is onboard.  Again right now I've only got time
to formulate a strategy, I'm not going to jump in right away
-- I'll check the HDs first, because they're looking the
most suspicious at this point, then I'll pull those cards.

>6. If we got this far successfully then I'd boot from OS2 diskettes and
>CHKDSK (preferrably the 32bit later version) on OS/2 partitions. Noting
>any errors I'd then rename any chkdsk.logs....

In fact I had renamed the one on my boot partition when I
first saw the alarmingly-sized ones, but then the whole
partition got wiped out.  At this point, chkdsk doesn't even
recognize the K: drive as a HPFS drive.

>7. From boot diskettes run Partition Magic preferrably followed by your
>GLU utils and/or at least FDISK /QUERY
>8.Depending on results and what Bootmanager you had and any errors
>pertaining to partition....  I might be tempted to do a FDISK /NEWMBR
>and re-menu my boot partitions.

This is starting to seem my next step.  Let me ask -- though
this is one of those things I ought to have known for a
long, long time: how destructive is FDISK /NEWMBR?  Will it
simply analyze my boot record and adjust the partitions
carefully, in a way that I won't have to recreate all the
data on each of them, or will I have to re-back up all my
HDs afterward?



>
>- - - - - - - break for coffee (pass on the decaf for once) - - - -
>and to reflect on any results and the fact that an apparent fault that
>affects more than one bootable partition can only be partition table
>corruption or an external common cause that is unlikely to be resolved
>by further re-installs into existing partitions!
>One now has to evaluate the feasability of diagnosis by replacement
>compared to the potentially wasted effort/elapsed time of continuing
>through 9 -13 below.  Potentially first moving HDD to equivalent PC
>expediently resolves partiton table corruption and SCSI/HDD error.

Alas, prior components are in a box in a basement 100 miles
away, but I may be able to get to them in a few days.

I don't suppose there's much chance, in case I do get my
partitions properly reconstituted, that whatever um, fudged
my HD might have just been a fleeting anomaly?

>Followed by RAM/L2/CPU...... and of course one still has to
>check/compare all those Bios settings, disk data transfer rates etc even
>if one has diligently backed up ones previous working settings<g>.
>However if one does not have the luxury of this comparative technique
>one may be forced to discard the remnants of ones now stone cold coffee
>and continue....after further thought as to whether one did actually do
>a LLF initially when presenting both HDD + SCSI adapter together for the
>first time all those many moons ago....(but one was persuaded by the
>"expert" that said it was uneccessary because he'd done it for years
>through all SCSI/HDD models except coincidentally your exact combination
>perhaps) ....and besides it's been working ok for ages!(Ha! - servo data
>drift mumble mumble.... servo writer on edge of it's calibration who
>knows?) .......    :-(

No, I did it all by the book -- and it's only five months
ago.  It's a big IBM somethingStar SCSI drive, bought new,
and I've been using it fairly carefully.  I suppose heat
buildup is a possibility.

>- - - - - - -return to work via mens room - damn coffee - - - - - - -
>
>9. If I got this far then I might find I now have to do a SYSTINSTX  cos
>partition doesn't boot at all or have FORMAT /L /FS:HPFS   and reloaded
>from backup if there was evidence of massive corruption or lengthy
>chkdsk errors...
>10. If the WPS/Desktop is up and I've bypassed(or remmed) the obvious
>config errors for adapters I've removed.....then either I'm working and
>ready to re-insert adapters individually or staring at a now familiar
>Trap screen.   :-(
>11. If I've trapped then I diligently note ALL the register details and
>any hints to failing module.  If it's Trap 3 (breakpoint left by
>developer in application code) then I'd be looking at specific
>application(if I could tell) that possibly now has configuration file
>out of synch.
>If it's TrapD (pmmerge included) then I'd look again at what
>diagnostics(if any) I'd run on my video adapter. I'd then revert to VGA

Was the first thing I tried, and the most alarming failure 
of all.

>and retry...... along with toggling my H/W detection on bootup(ALT+F1 >
>F5/6) if this is still failing. I'd look at reverting to my originall
>Archive install desktop(this should be VGA anyway), and eventually I'd
>be stripping my config to basics and methodically(but
>tediously)re-enabling each device/group at a time....
>12. Finally if I'm still stymied and my maintenance(BOOTOS/2) partition
>is still exhibiting similar problems then I'd be tempted to re-install a
>minimal OS2 from CD in my production partition to see what happens.....
>after rechecking my BIOS settings to ensure that these are defaulted but
>still commensurate with my hardware yet temporarily disabling
>L1/L2/Video cache(and removing/exchanging all bar minimum RAM to load
>OS/2) in case the diags missed the fault....while not forgetting that I
>might have a PCI SCSI card and ISA Matrox that possibly requires
>appropriate PnP and legacy resources modified in Bios....<g>
>13. If I'm still totally disfunctional without any useful guiding
>failure messages during all the above then I'd append EXPLICITLY here
>all that I'd done(in exact sequence) with ALL pertinent details of my
>system configuration(not just a few tantalising but unilaterally
>useless  and arguably unstructured extracts Mr Tennenbaum!...<g>).
>
>I only ever reached unlucky 13. once when I first had V3 RedPak on my
>new TP755CE 4 years ago, whose fault appeared to defeat both IBM Boca(
>OS2 S/W) and IBM Yamato(Thinkpad H/W) development labs despite several
>iterations of 20 "dump" diskettes and after many futile h/w
>changes(resulting in a new thinkpad less case....almost)...being
>eventually resolved by upgrading to WarpV3 Full pack<g>.
>Far too easy for me to state the obvious steps as I more intimately now
>know how my system is bolted together, the size of HDD's partitions, the
>version of diags and most personal gotcha's that I've painfully
>endured....
>...Including recent silly ones like not LLF my new SCSI for my old
>Adaptec 1522A inbuilt adapter and wondering why I had partition
>corruption several weeks down the line.... (yea yea I know you can
>often/frequently/always avoid doing it but I used to do it religiously
>and decided out of laziness/curiousity to try installing as is for
>once... never again - certainly not worth ommitting several hours LLF
>compared to predicted several years reliable use unless you have
>existing data and only prior to backing it up first anyway!....besides
>if it's going to cough as an ELF I'd rather maximise the chance of
>finding out prior to placing data on it<g>).
>Like the entirely non-intuitive problem on a colleaques PC resulting
>from using the New Idedasd package with an old ADAPTEC 1542CF and having
>the IDE(of all things!!!) partitions greater than 1Gb....(worked fine
>w/o AHA drivers)....  go figure...
>Like stupidly forgetting in the "heat of the desperate moment" that
>resetting the Bios to factory defaults required me to subsequently turn
>off PnP/disable IRQ legacy adapter resources on the customers PC.....or
>removing my dead Sound card had dislodged the L2 cache,memory or
>unplugged the CPU fan.....even the ATX style power connector  .......etc
>etc
>
>I know just barely enough(to get myself into and out of a lot of
>trouble<g>) by modifying the above process as I go along dependent on
>results and without unecessarily hosing existing configuration or
>partitions..... I've also backed up my partition tables seperately and
>dessiminated various alternative backups of desktop,configuration
>files(inc Bios) across various media. Thus say if I've successfully
>loaded Desktop from install archive (or even a destructive Makeini) I
>can reload my desktop customisations from WPtools backup,Rexx script or
>Unimaint portable backup etc onto this freshly seeded base.
>To suggest or even infer you may not have prudently had the forsight(or
>even opportunity) to do similar would not be helpful at this
>juncture..... <g>
>(but I know you have had GT utils once but are now using GLU so I don't
>suppose there was a GLU(or) equivalent of GTDisk utility to
>backup/restore partition tables and a chance of having current backups

My backups are fairly decent, but there's no telling whether
I'll be able to "worst-case" restore all my HD parts., since
some of them would have been made off of corrupted
partitions(??).  Shortly after I put in this new HD, I used
Chris Graham's "disaster recovery utility" to back up the
partition tables, but then again, I'm not quite certain how
I'd apply these without the ability to boot os/2 (hm, come
to think of it, maybe I remember a restpart.exe or something
similar).  For that matter, I may have used Partition Magic
to move some things around, though I'm generally prudent
enough to make sure to re-backup the partition tables (is
there a way to see the date when these were last changed? 
the date on my backup is on the diskette (4/28/99)).



>if that is eventually determined to be a more likely
>cause/solution?....   and you have Henks WPS backup on an accessible
>partition/diskette presumably if the eventual outcome also requires a
>desktop rebuild? )
>
>To write other than a generic(and thus unhelpful non-specific) procedure
>requires a LOT MORE detail of your system<g>. Following the above
>"parrot fashion" without adapting it for your configuration (or
>understanding what its doing and interpreting results) could result in a
>lot of unecessary work (and potential impacts if the integrity of your
>backups is questionable/unknown!).
>
>Otherwise we'll be repeatedly inviting you to try(and/or comment on) the
>obvious:
>1. What's the specific mobo + h/w details etc
>2. Partition and HDD type/structure viz FDISK /QUERY detailing any other
>non/ working OS's(apart from W95/OSV3 already mentioned).
>3. Type/location of applications wrt to 2.  Ordered by business
>criticality..... (eg I must retain a WordProc and access to my network
>server minimum.... followed by email....graphics with SVGA 1600x1200 res
>at 16M colors.... my data on G: is also on a verified backup but I don't
>have all my install disks/CD's for apps on F: and/or their
>configs/customisations backed up....   my largest partition is 6Gb on G:

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 15-Sep-99 17:46:04
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: (2/2) Re: dire need of HELP!

>and takes 4 hours to totally restore via my Travan4  etc etc.... )
>4. What diags/utils/chkdsk/partmagic do you have and results of what you
>have tried over and above that already posted ..... apparently from your
>Yamaha(or was it a Guzzi?) somewhere in the Mojave desert?<vbg>
>
>We (the collective not the royal) can then no doubt fine tune/re-visit
>the diagnostic path.....and supplement any missing diags/utilities with
>appropriate reccomendations that hopefully won't subvert your bank
>balance by requiring expensive software or purchases to enable heuristic
>hardware swaps....or knee-jerk repetitive and ultimately futile total
>re-installs....
>
>....and if I subsequently found that my probem was caused by faulty RAM
>that just happened to be non-parity memory then I would tend to become
>quite sceptical about the claims that "parity" is now a uneccessary
>expense given modern production yields/quality?
>But then given my mobo supports it I wouldn't personally fit anything
>but parity (or ECC if my PC was mission critical - discussions on double
>bit parity errors uneccessary thanks... or statistical MTBF for
>non-parity EDO whatever Dimms <g>)
>Unless of course I had access to be able to readily "swap" memory out
>somewhere early in steps 1 - 8 above before expending more time than
>extra cost of parity<g>. ....gotta spare K6-2 cpu.....L2 Cache...etc?
>Can you swap SCSI/HDD to another similar PC?
>Trouble is these iterative diagnostic analysis by replacement methods
>may well be more expedient if we were all in your place and knew the
>resources you had available and no doubt if they were easily available
>you would have already done it<g>.
>
>Or are we facing some desperate time constraint...panic attack here...?

No, patience I've learned (too well, perhaps, but that's
another story).  The ThinkPad can tide me over for at least
a week.  When I get a chance I'm going to see about the
drives, and then do some diagnosis.  

Your very generous and intelligent post is most charitable,
and it is received with due appreciation for all the battle-
scarred wisdom with which it was written.  There is a great
deal to digest here, and once I get this other w*rk out of
the way, I'll copy your post and it'll form the basis of my
strategy to work through.  I hope you won't mind if I come
back with a rephrased sort of outline.

Thanking you very indeed,

-Ray

>--
>Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net
>
>with fond memories of Bonny 650, Velocette 350(Venom or Viper?), BSA
>Goldy 500, Aerial square4 and "sticking the boot" in the chromed side
>panels of "mouthy", anoraked, Lambretta'rised GT200 "WildCat" converted,
>mirror & lamp bedecked "Mods" posing on their over-revving "hair dryers"
><vbg>.......

Me uncle's a big Single partisan -- with three Duc 350
singles, a GoldStar, even an old military-issue Goose that
weighs about 2000 pounds, made back before they went all-
twin -- so I was brought up respecting the britbike
tradition (we're all still trying to figure out if that new
8-cylinder Norton is a joke or not).  Great riders.  Though
to allude neither cryptically nor originally, I'm a mocker.


>.....In halcyon days decades ago when it was "expected" for one to be
>"stereotyped" by the mode of two(sometimes 3<g>) wheeled transport you
>chose and your riding apparel in the UK.....  when men were men, boys
>were boys,Hippies were unsure(but all peace and love....man),
>Rockers/Greasers were social outcasts unless your Chapter membership was
>uptodate(Yes Officer I always carry a spare bike chain in my denim
>pocket)  and Mods were failed Teddy boys with Army surplus full length
>parka's.... and females were a chauvanistic  accessory that one sported
>on the pillion.... or occasionally "despoiled" on same said seat in
>moments of "Mod"-less boredom....."allegedly"....<g>
>

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: rsstan@ibm.net                                    15-Sep-99 18:18:27
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: Orb works under OS/2!

From: "Bob Stan" <rsstan@ibm.net>

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:02:20 -0700, Richard M. Dunham wrote:

>Just wanted to let you know that I recently purchased an Orb SCSI
>external drive and it is working well under OS/2 using Fixpak 11 and the
>updated device drivers fixpak.
>
>Just plugged it into my Thinkpad 385XD's PCMCIA SCSI card slot.  Powered
>it up and FDISKed the MAC formatted cartridge.  I now have another 2.2GB
>of needed storage space.
I have also used the Orb in an EIDE model and was very pleased with it. 
Unfortunately, it failed after a month of use.  While it is being replaced
under warranty with no hassle, time will tell how reliable the Orb is.  


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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           15-Sep-99 23:31:15
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

I used Warp 3 for years, quite happily. It was unfixpacked, because fixpacks
always claimed that there was nothing to fix, but I lived with that. Then I
was given a nice spiffy new computer and thought I would put nice spiffy new
Warp v4 on it ... that was over the summer.

Yuck.

Forget the interface. I have *never* met an OS as unstable as Warp 4. On
average - and I am not trying to do anything particularly fancy, believe
me - I get complete systems hangs / crashes every four hours or so. It makes
Windows 95 look like a model of stability.

So to anyone choosing between the two, I would say "don't even think about
installing Warp 4". Sometime in the next week or so I will blast the
accursed OS off the face of my system, install Warp 3 as a stop gap and
make a serious decision about whether to use Linux or Windows NT in the 
long term. I think MS is going to win.

Ian

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      16-Sep-99 01:47:23
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: Diamond Viper v770 os/2?

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Forrest Gehrke [AT&T WorldNet Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 Hello,
 I have been told by a Win98 user the Diamond Viper V770
 is a pretty good video card. But the question is: does
 a driver exist for it under OS/2?

Yes, get the nVidia reference drivers for OS/2 (works fine with all TNT based
cards).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 15-Sep-99 18:39:21
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

In article <w6SD3.12149$Sb.30879@dfw-read.news.verio.net>,
davek@clark.net (David Kunz) wrote:

>Raphael Tennenbaum (raphaelt@worldnet.att.net) wrote:                 
>snip>
>: No, I hate electricity.  I mean I like it when it's behaving but it 
>: confuses me.  How do I check system voltages?  I will do whatever 
>: I'm told (within reason).
>
>Ouch.  That'll make it harder for you to proceed on your own.  If it
>were me, I'd pull out the manual for my MB to get the voltages on the
>power supply connectors and use a voltmeter to measure them -- without
>the MB, and with the MB.  If I couldn't find my manual, I'd search the
>net (using one of my hand-me-down computers made of parts that I've
>upgraded :)).

I'm back from Radio Shack with a cheap multimeter.  I should
be able to figure out how to use it within a bit.  The
manual -- it's an ASUS P2L97 -- is pretty decent, however
I've never had to look up voltages in the past.

>
>: > What caused the sound card to blow?                               
>
>: I can't really remember.  One afternoon a week and a half ago I 
>: rebooted, and the XFolder startup wave kept repeating and 
>: repeating.  At the time I thought it was some sort of ini file 
>: problem.  I went through what seemed like 20 reboots before I 
>: decided it was the sound card.  Only then did I boot into Warp3 and 
>: get an IRQ10 error message on bootup.  I remmd out the ESS drivers 
>: in Warp4, and figured that would get me through for a while until I 
>: bothered to pick up a new sound card.  Then as you see, things got 
>: worse though not exactly in a hurry.                                   
>
>: There may have been a mild thunderstorm the night before, but 
>: everything runs off a UPC.
>
>No guarantee.  A lightning hit can go right through even a good surge
>suppressor or UPS. Depends on the hit itself.
>
>: > I would distrust your entire system until it's been thoroughly 
>: > checked out.  Almost anything that has gone flakey could be 
>: > causing this problem: CPU, memory, controllers, disk drives...    
>
>: I can't really afford a hardware consultant, I'm pretty much it. 
>: Any step-by-step advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
>After checking system voltages, I would get one of my HOW test programs
>out and run it.  If my system passes, I'd try the other one :).  Both
>my programs are commercial and pretty basic -- they've rarely found a
>problem, but then again, I've been lucky enough to rarely have a
>problem.

I've come to be skeptical about these, having read dozens if
not hundreds of posts by Wxx users posting how their systems
passed Checkit just fine, something must be the matter with
OS/2 if it won't boot, etc -- on top of that is the general
sense that these are so rudimentary they seem to do little
good whatsoever.  

Do any of the ones you use happen to be shareware?  And have
you perhaps got urls?


>Remember that flakey memory is *very* difficult to detect.  I've had
>to run a memory test program for 3 days to get it to finally find the
>bad sim that was causing OS/2 to crash within 5 minutes of boot...
>
>If the HOW tests out, I'd reset my CMOS.  If you can get a program that
>wipes the whole thing, that works better -- sometimes a glitch puts
>something in a non-configurable area.  If my BIOS is flash, I'd reload
>it.
>
>If I was still having problems, I'd start swapping out cards.  If I
>have multiple banks of memory, I'd remove one then the other.
>
>If I still have problems, all that's left is the MB and the disk
>drives themselves.  Time to upgrade...

I'm beginning to suspect the drives, actually, -- see my
response to Tony W -- but then again these depend so closely
on the other stuff in the computer I haven't ruled out some
kind of short or power supply problem.

Thanks for heeding my plea.  The Thinkpad is doing well --
fortunately diskette boot still allows me access to the
drives, and I can pull templates etc off them and move onto
this thing.  After I clear some other stuff out of the way I
will devote some more care and attention to this little
tragedy.

Regards, 

Ray

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           15-Sep-99 23:22:26
  To: All                                               15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

Will Honea (will.honea@wcom.com) wrote:

: Wanna bet on that?  4.61b2 is on the adjacent (busy) os/2 machine as I
: type - along w/java 1.1.8.

As per previous post, NS4.04 refused to install when I had W3.

Ian

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          16-Sep-99 09:27:04
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:09
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

I'm using WBI from IBM Alphaworks. It not only caches
better than Netscape but will notify you of any pages that
have been updated. It's also a freebie although it hasn't
been updated for a while.

http://www.alphaWorks.ibm.com/formula/wbi

Cheers

Wayne

On 15 Sep 1999 21:11:47 GMT, John Hong wrote:

:>
:>	Just wondering, are there any caching software for OS/2?  Stuff
:>like Naviscope or Netsonic for Windows, what it does basically is do a
:>better job of caching (and some other things that I don't think matter for
:>OS/2).
:>	Another thing, if IBM does not intend to release just one fixpak
:>for Netscape 2.02, can they at least give us an option to download *just*
:>Navigator?  When one can download Netscape for Windows, you can either nab
:>the entire Communicator or just download the Navigator browser portion of
:>it.  It would be a satisfactory compremise, IMO.
:>
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
******************************************************



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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          15-Sep-99 23:34:21
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:09
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:11:47, jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (John Hong) a crit 
dans un message:

> 
> 	Just wondering, are there any caching software for OS/2?  Stuff
> like Naviscope or Netsonic for Windows, what it does basically is do a
> better job of caching (and some other things that I don't think matter for
> OS/2).

How about wayyyy better?

I've been working with SmartCache, a Java cache application, for about a 
month now, and I like it a lot. 

First, it lets you cache *everything*, even HTML, java classes, etc., that 
have been coded "NOCACHE" at the server to hide it from you, so you can 
look at scripts and (some) CGIs you weren't normally going to be able to 
see.

Then you can fake your UserAgent name, to get access to sites that think 
they only want you to use specific browsers or versions. There's also a 
junkbusters mode that lets you turn off a lot of garbage.

An aggravating thing about NS/2's cache is that it has always cached every 
file into the same directory, and there's some kind of bug in WSeB's 
CMD.EXE that causes serious system troubles when a large number of files 
exist in one directory. SCache organizes every site into its own structure,
and keeps the original file names, making it very easy to browse those 
files and see what's what.

A really nice thing is that it self-configures and runs right out of the 
box. Just enter your Proxy info in Netscape and WebExplorer settings and 
you're up and cacheing without even a reboot.

The English page is at:

	http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html

(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing 
program?)



Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           15-Sep-99 23:21:29
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:09
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

John Hong (jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca) wrote:
: Ian Johnston (engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk) wrote:

: : Neither will Netscape v4.xx

: 	Dunno what you're talking about here since I had Netscape 4.04 & 
: 4.61 beta working just fine on my Warp 3 box.

I'm talking about the way the installation routine said "You must have Warp 4
to run this software" and refused to installed NS4.04 under Warp 3, then did
it quite happily under Warp 4. And the bit on the IBM NS website which says
that v2.02 is for W3 and v4.04 is for W4...

Ian

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From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca                        16-Sep-99 00:47:24
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:09
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:31:31, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston) wrote:

> Forget the interface. I have *never* met an OS as unstable as Warp 4. On
> average - and I am not trying to do anything particularly fancy, believe
> me - I get complete systems hangs / crashes every four hours or so. It makes
> Windows 95 look like a model of stability.

Weird... On my system, Warp 4 has been significantly _more_ stable
than Warp 3.  

This was a 486... Warp 3 tended to get hard traps occasionally (like 
every few weeks, usually when doing something innocuous like playing
a MIDI file)... and also the WPS would lock up about once per day.

In Warp 4 the lockups happened less often, and I don't think I had a
hard trap for the next 8 months.

However...  No version of OS/2 should be behaving that badly.  In my
experience, this is a sign of flaky hardware - something of which
OS/2 (in all versions) is _very_ unforgiving.

It may also be a bad video driver.  I've found that that can make quite
a big difference, too.  (I've learned to stay away from ATI cards, in
general, because the drivers tend to be really bad.)

Of course, you might try the latest fixpack to see if that helps, but
you may not want to bother if you're that set against Warp 4...

-----------------------------------------------------------------
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 alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 15-Sep-99 18:38:23
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:09
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

In article <sngbkubgznvypbz.fi4ixc0.pminews@news.otenet.gr>,
"OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com> wrote:
>When I built my first PC I read these pages and they were helpful:
>
>http://www.motherboards.org/build.html
>
>Have a look at Part II: Rolling Your Own.  It has a reasonable
>Troubleshooting section with a list of errors, and a section on
>electrical problems too.  This could be something fairly simple; if
>you have the time at some point, it may pay off to go through the
>guide step by step - you might find the culprit.  Good luck again...

Thanks for the good wishes & pointer, Grecque.  Right now
I'm slowly reading through pcguide.com to see what I can see
before I do anything rash.


-- 
Ray Tennenbaum
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    16-Sep-99 00:05:09
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:09
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:31:31, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston) 
wrote:

> Forget the interface. I have *never* met an OS as unstable as Warp 4. On
> average - and I am not trying to do anything particularly fancy, believe
> me - I get complete systems hangs / crashes every four hours or so. It makes
> Windows 95 look like a model of stability.

Weird. There must be more to this. Perhaps Warp 4 is hitting something
hardware wise, or perhaps your spiffy new computer is unstable in 
itself; there are isufficient data to know.

All I can say is that Warp 4 is just as stable for me; in fact 
slightly more than Warp 3. 

I run one Warp 4 machine 24/7, and the last time it was rebooted was 
over 60 days ago - after a power cut. It is an everyday-user machine, 
an IP router, an FTP server....

I run another two for about 18 hours a day, with very few problems 
indeed.

I hate people who write the kind of thing I just wrote ("it works for 
me") but I really suspect there is another factor besides Warp 4 at 
work here.

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: letoured@sover.net                                15-Sep-99 21:51:18
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:09
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

From: letoured@sover.net

This is really a bummer because if OS2 goes to a third-party -- it means
the end of OS2,  simply because there is no vendor I would trust with the
capability to suport it properly.  






>              Warpstock 99 - Atlanta, October 16-17, 1999
>              Two fun filled days of OS/2 and YOU!
>   Register by September 6, 1999 to receive a discount!
>       Visit http://www.warpstock.org for full details.

>****************************** WarpCast ******************************

>Source: Steve Wendt (stevew@shocking.com)
>Moderator: Christopher B. Wright (wrightc@dtcweb.com)
>**********************************************************************
> 
>Subject:  September 17: Judgement day
>Date:  Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:11:07 -0400
>From:  "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@stardock.com>
>Newsgroups:  stardock.os2

>On September 16th, IBM executives will be meeting for the monthly IPMT
>meeting.  At this meeting they are supposed to talk about the future of
>the OS/2 client and the feasibility of a client published by a third
>party.

>We are supposed to hear back later that day or on Friday (the 17th) about
>what decisions they come to.

>This means that we expect to be able to provide users with additional
>information as to the status of the OS/2 client whether from IBM or from
>a third party such as Stardock.

>So stay tuned.  The wait may be almost over. ;)

>Brad
>---
>Brad Wardell
>Product Manager: Object Desktop & The Corporate Machine
>http://www.stardock.com






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_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: matthew@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca                    16-Sep-99 01:36:09
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: Orb works under OS/2! 

From: "Matthew@psych" <matthew@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca>

Same experience here. The orb external scsi is great w/os/2 (linux too).

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Richard M. Dunham wrote:

> Just wanted to let you know that I recently purchased an Orb SCSI
> external drive and it is working well under OS/2 using Fixpak 11 and the
> updated device drivers fixpak.
> 
> Just plugged it into my Thinkpad 385XD's PCMCIA SCSI card slot.  Powered
> it up and FDISKed the MAC formatted cartridge.  I now have another 2.2GB
> of needed storage space.
> 
> You may want to let your customers know that this unit does work under
> OS/2.
> 
> Regards:  Dick
> 
> 
> 

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From: verysoft@wr.com.au                                16-Sep-99 01:33:29
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Lost mb's - found them

From: verysoft@wr.com.au (Max)

As in previous article "Lost mb's where are they" I posted the problem
that i had when unzipping some files to my OS2  notebook. I then
observed some vicous disk activity and could actuall watch the
availble disk space going down the drain.
Wit the utility FileGraf supplied kindly by M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn
(hope I got that right), I easily spotted th a file (gunzip.info) wich
is a text file of some kb, actually occupied some 126 mb on my hard
disk.
It was easy enough to delete this file, and free the space, looking at
the directory in icon view it was not quiet obvious what happened.
The system is still a bit wacky, as rporting a locked disk when
running chkdsk, but I can live with that i suppose.
A forced chkdsk hammered the harddisk for some minutes, but couldn't
resolve this error.
Thanks as well to those who replied via e-mail..

			Max :)

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 16-Sep-99 02:43:05
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <uAC43oXf03ZR092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes:
>
>In article <w6SD3.12149$Sb.30879@dfw-read.news.verio.net>,
>davek@clark.net (David Kunz) wrote:
>
>>Raphael Tennenbaum (raphaelt@worldnet.att.net) wrote:                 
>>snip>
>>: No, I hate electricity.  I mean I like it when it's behaving but it 
>>: confuses me.  How do I check system voltages?  I will do whatever 
>>: I'm told (within reason).
>>
>>Ouch.  That'll make it harder for you to proceed on your own.  If it
>>were me, I'd pull out the manual for my MB to get the voltages on the
>>power supply connectors and use a voltmeter to measure them -- without
>>the MB, and with the MB.  If I couldn't find my manual, I'd search the
>>net (using one of my hand-me-down computers made of parts that I've
>>upgraded :)).
>
>I'm back from Radio Shack with a cheap multimeter.  I should
>be able to figure out how to use it within a bit.  The
>manual -- it's an ASUS P2L97 -- is pretty decent, however
>I've never had to look up voltages in the past.

be aware that modern power supplies are all (?) 'switching' power
supplies - without a load they will not produce current, so if you
try to disconnect from the m-board, say, and test the power outputs 
you'll get a false reading of 0 volts. It's possible to use a pull-up 
resistor, but maybe unwise at this level in your tech career ! . . . 
anyway, test the voltages with the terminals attached or get a friend 
with some electronics experience to assist with that portion of yer 
trouble-shooting. In fact, you might be having a problem with noisy power 
output from the supply - you should see less than 1% ripple : you can 
check this best with an oscilloscope or (cheapo method) by using the AC 
scale on a digital meter. The digital meters are better - harder to blow 
the works by being in the wrong range ! 


>
>Regards, 
>
>Ray
>
>-- 
>Ray Tennenbaum
>readme@ http://www.ray-field.com


skl !

----------------------------------------------------------
Hrad ngravvrd
Windows NT - the Ornithopter of Operating Systems
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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 16-Sep-99 02:52:13
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <uAC43oXf03ZR092yn@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes:
>Thanks for heeding my plea.  The Thinkpad is doing well --
>fortunately diskette boot still allows me access to the
>drives, and I can pull templates etc off them and move onto
>this thing. 

Ah Ha ! this is a big help. If you have another hard disk (SCSI, yes ?)
I'd pop it into the chain and do an xcopy while you still have files
available. Then you can play to your heart's content without worrying
about losing six month's of hard work. 

After I clear some other stuff out of the way I
>will devote some more care and attention to this little
>tragedy.
>
>Regards, 
>
>Ray
>

----------------------------------------------------------
Hrad ngravvrd
Windows NT - the Ornithopter of Operating Systems
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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  15-Sep-99 21:17:20
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: Lotus WordPro will only save to a Root Directory

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

If you just installed FP11, visit http://www.os2ss.com/users/mckinnis
for a discussion and work around of the HPFS problem in FP11.

Barbara Barry wrote:
> 
> I have a brand new copy of Lotus SmartSuite. I have installed
> fix pack 11 for Warp 4.
> 
> When I try to set the document location in the user
> preference,  I get the error message .. One of the paths is
> currently not a valid directory. You can use the Browse button
> to find a valid directory. When I select it with the browse
> button it still gives me the same error.
> 
> When I try to save a new or an existing document in H:\TXT I get
> the error message .. H:\TXT\test.lwp is invalid.
> 
> Neither of these errors if I use a root directory.
> 
> I've installed SmartSuite a couple of times, I have applied the
> latest Lotus fix packs, with no improvement.
> 
> I'm currently working with Lotus support, but I find it
> difficult to believe that I'm the only one to ever have this
> problem.
> 
> If anyone has an idea about what is going on, I would appreciate
> some help. I am running on HPFS with multiple drives. At least I
> can learn how to use it by saving to a root directory, but I
> would like to organize my document a little better than that.
> 
> Thanks,
> Barbara

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: fmesnier@dial.oleane.com                          16-Sep-99 05:13:28
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: vacpp install and matrox driver

From: Franck Mesnier <fmesnier@dial.oleane.com>

Hello

I come just to install VACPP 4.0 for OS/2 for the second time and I have
always

the same problem :
As soon as I run VACPP, it hangs the system after the main window after the  
display of the logo, and the main window is not display completly.
I have a matrox G400 with the driver 2.31.095 in 1024x768.
I have tried with other resolutions but that does not work more, safe in  vga 
640x480x256 colors.
I install the fixpack 2, but not the fixpack 1 because I have the error 3 (?) 
message in wpinstall.log file.

What then  I can try now ?



Thanks


Franck

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           16-Sep-99 03:18:10
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: Lotus WordPro will only save to a Root Directory

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

There has been a series of posts regarding a change in FP 11
that started setting the Archive bit for directories when the EA's
have been changed. This apparently messes up a number of
applications.....

Use the ATTRIB command to turn off the Archive attribute
bit on the directory.

ie ATTRIB -A dir-name

Maybe that will cure it...

Lorne Sunley

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:53:14, Barbara Barry 
<barbara@databasics.hurst.tx.us> wrote:

> I have a brand new copy of Lotus SmartSuite. I have installed 
> fix pack 11 for Warp 4. 
> 
> When I try to set the document location in the user 
> preference,  I get the error message .. One of the paths is 
> currently not a valid directory. You can use the Browse button 
> to find a valid directory. When I select it with the browse 
> button it still gives me the same error.
> 
> When I try to save a new or an existing document in H:\TXT I get 
> the error message .. H:\TXT\test.lwp is invalid.
> 
> Neither of these errors if I use a root directory.
> 
> I've installed SmartSuite a couple of times, I have applied the 
> latest Lotus fix packs, with no improvement.
> 
> I'm currently working with Lotus support, but I find it 
> difficult to believe that I'm the only one to ever have this 
> problem.
> 
> If anyone has an idea about what is going on, I would appreciate
> some help. I am running on HPFS with multiple drives. At least I
> can learn how to use it by saving to a root directory, but I 
> would like to organize my document a little better than that.
> 
> Thanks,
> Barbara
> 
> 
> 


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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      16-Sep-99 05:37:07
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

letoured@sover.net [] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 This is really a bummer because if OS2 goes to a third-party -- it means
 the end of OS2,  simply because there is no vendor I would trust with the
 capability to suport it properly.  

Why not?

Even while (as before) I agree it would be better if IBM sold it, I don't see
that they wouldn't support it if you want to pay for it (just like they
support other products like NT and Linux)?

I'm sure you use a lot of software (and perhaps also hardware) on your OS/2
system that doesn't come from IBM and doing just fine.

Many people still use the leaner Warp 3 OS/2 release, even if IBM officially
only support the latest OS/2 release (Warp 4), and do just fine with that.

I think people interested in OS/2 should be happy to have an alternative to if
IBM don't release it themselves. 

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: derwin@airmail.net                                15-Sep-99 22:47:12
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

From: Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net>

letoured@sover.net wrote:
> 
> This is really a bummer because if OS2 goes to a third-party -- it means
> the end of OS2,  simply because there is no vendor I would trust with the
> capability to suport it properly.

RIGHT!!!??  Like IBM supports it at all!!!!!
-- 
Dale Erwin
3624 Coral Gables Drive
Dallas, Texas 75229-2619
(214)893-8738

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    16-Sep-99 03:51:26
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Buddy Donnelly (donnelly@tampabay.rr.com) wrote:

: > 	Just wondering, are there any caching software for OS/2?  Stuff
: > like Naviscope or Netsonic for Windows, what it does basically is do a
: > better job of caching (and some other things that I don't think matter for
: > OS/2).

: How about wayyyy better?

: I've been working with SmartCache, a Java cache application, for about a 
: month now, and I like it a lot. 


	Will check it out!

: First, it lets you cache *everything*, even HTML, java classes, etc., that 
: have been coded "NOCACHE" at the server to hide it from you, so you can 
: look at scripts and (some) CGIs you weren't normally going to be able to 
: see.

: Then you can fake your UserAgent name, to get access to sites that think 
: they only want you to use specific browsers or versions. There's also a 
: junkbusters mode that lets you turn off a lot of garbage.

: An aggravating thing about NS/2's cache is that it has always cached every 
: file into the same directory, and there's some kind of bug in WSeB's 
: CMD.EXE that causes serious system troubles when a large number of files 
: exist in one directory. SCache organizes every site into its own structure,
: and keeps the original file names, making it very easy to browse those 
: files and see what's what.

: A really nice thing is that it self-configures and runs right out of the 
: box. Just enter your Proxy info in Netscape and WebExplorer settings and 
: you're up and cacheing without even a reboot.

	I just checked out the site, damn, this sounds great!  The source 
is even available, so a plea to Netlabs or some other group to port this 
over to OS/2 (someone else already ported it over to Windows).  
Definately a must have, IMO, since we don't have any native software that 
accelerates caching.  NS/2 2.02 just plain sucks at this.



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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 16-Sep-99 03:50:23
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 install problems

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <slrn7u05tu.39.possum@pooh.100acrewood>, possum@fred.net (Mike Trettel)
writes:

>I'm having problems getting Java 1.1.8 to install properly.  

snip

> I'm lost here-why did
>IBM select this awful "Feature Install" thing anyway.  


'cuz some turkey in Marketing read a story in a magazine & decided a 
web browser was *the* cool way to do everything. We're just lucky
he came along after 1996 or we'd be trying to install the whole o.s.
through the dumb 'feature installer.'  coyote ugly . . . .


>
>-- 
>===========
>Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net
>


----------------------------------------------------------
Hrad ngravvrd
Windows NT - the Ornithopter of Operating Systems
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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               15-Sep-99 20:35:18
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Lotus WordPro will only save to a Root Directory

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Barbara Barry wrote:

> I have a brand new copy of Lotus SmartSuite. I have installed
> fix pack 11 for Warp 4.
>
> When I try to set the document location in the user
> preference,  I get the error message .. One of the paths is
> currently not a valid directory. You can use the Browse button
> to find a valid directory. When I select it with the browse
> button it still gives me the same error.
>
> When I try to save a new or an existing document in H:\TXT I get
> the error message .. H:\TXT\test.lwp is invalid.
>
> Neither of these errors if I use a root directory.
>
> I've installed SmartSuite a couple of times, I have applied the
> latest Lotus fix packs, with no improvement.
>
> I'm currently working with Lotus support, but I find it
> difficult to believe that I'm the only one to ever have this
> problem.
>
> If anyone has an idea about what is going on, I would appreciate
> some help. I am running on HPFS with multiple drives. At least I
> can learn how to use it by saving to a root directory, but I
> would like to organize my document a little better than that.
>
> Thanks,
> Barbara

Select File - User Setup
Choose Word Pro Preferences
Click the locations tabl
In each box, you'll see the defaulted directory paths.
Change them to what you want.

You can specify multiple locations in each box.
Word Pro uses the locations in the order you specify
them.  To use the last directory you specified when you
opened a document select "Use working directory."

To use the last file type you specified when you opened
a document select "Use working type"

To use the existing file names of file you import,
select "Retain name of imported files.

Click OK.

Works for me.  Hope this helps.


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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          16-Sep-99 12:59:05
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:34:43 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote:

:>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing 
:>program?)

Ouch!

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
******************************************************



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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               15-Sep-99 21:13:01
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

letoured@sover.net wrote:

> This is really a bummer because if OS2 goes to a third-party -- it means
> the end of OS2,  simply because there is no vendor I would trust with the
> capability to suport it properly.
>

Not to worry, it won't.  Brad's recent message was purposely
posted to his Stardock news server rather than to any serious
news source .  He stealthed it there rather than send it to any
respected news source knowing it would be 'leaked'  to the
gaggle of OS/2 rumors/news web sites desperate for positive
OS/2 information during this "pre-Warpstock" period.  It has
taken days but it has now reached these newsgroups.

This simply follows  Esther's recent article posted to ZDNet
regarding OS/2 sales exceeding IBM's expectations.  Go
back and read her article.  She offers NOT ONE verifiable
source that can  confirm her claims.   When the article came
out we checked our IBM sources and they were perplexed at
her claims.  Some even laughed.  And I can say this about
our IBM sources, they are actual IBM employees who subscribe
to Warp City.  They have email addresses ending in ibm.com
not ibm.net.  Look for Esther (and her husband) at Warpstock.

I'll repeat this once again: our IBM insiders say there will
be no release of a Warp 5 product by anyone this year.
This year being 1999.  There is no reason to release a Warp
5 client at this time.  Nothing offered by Microsoft has yet
to equal the power, stability and quality of the current OS/2
Warp 4 product.

I have more faith in our IBM insiders than I do in leaks planted
by Stardock's owner to Stardock's own news server.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com


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From: JNiffen@IBM.Net                                   15-Sep-99 23:59:27
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: DOS/OS/2 question

From: JNiffen <JNiffen@IBM.Net>

Jim Backus wrote:
> 
> As other poster have observed, OS/2 is not a shell running on top of DOS.
> However in some versions of OS/2 it is possible to prevent the Workplace
shell
> starting.  I used to do this in version 2.1.  Again as other posters have
said
> the mods are in the Config.sys file.
> 
> Although OS/2 commands are superficially similar to DOS they are much more
> powerful and allow multi-tasking from the command line - of course most
> programmes rely on the Workplace Shell so you may be very limited on what
you
> can run.
> 
> For an example of the power of OS/2 commands the following will list
matching
> files on drives A: , C:, and D:
> 
> dir a:file.txt /s c:fille.txt /s d:file.txt /s
> 
> try doing that in any MS DOS !
> 
> Unfortunately I can't immediately find the modification needed to config.sys
> to prevent the WPS starting.  If this is what you want to do e-mail me (note
> address for bona fide e-mail in the sig line.
> 
> n message <37D85AC9.A4575049@xoommail.com> - Jim Devenport
> <jdport@xoommail.com> writes:
> :>
> :>I just inherited an older IBM slooooooooww laptop with OS/2, and this is
> :>my first exposure.  I'd really like to just disable OS/2 and have the
> :>laptop default to DOS when booting, but can find nothing of the sort to
> :>modify in autoexec.bat  .
> :>Any quik 'n dirty ideas on how to accomplish this?
> :>Jim W5AOX
> :>
> 
> Jim Backus - Electronic Systems Engineer - OS/2 user by choice
>  - member of Amnesty International
>  - supporter of Proportional Representation
> Bona fide  replies to jimb (at) jita dot demon dot co dot uk
In the config.sys change 

SET RUNWORKPLACE=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
and change it to read:
SET RUNWORKPLACE=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE

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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             16-Sep-99 07:10:26
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: OS/2 Dialup With REXX

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:41:15, bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly}) wrote:

> On Sunday, in article
>      <Ej0w7lFo08Zw-pn2-bWzkBFUdS2FM@pluto.dwparsons.dialin.t-online.de>
>      dwparsons@t-online.de "Dave Parsons" wrote:
> 
> > Check out ISDNPM 2.9 (on LEO or
ftp://ftp.uni-freiburg.de/pub/pc/os2/isdn/).
> 
> Being a user of this myself, I can heartily recommend it; however, I was
> about to say "I know that the use of ISDN is widespread in Germany, but
> the original enquirer most probably hasn't got it".  Then I saw this:
> 
> > From V2.9 it will talk to a normal modem as well as an ISDN card. 
> 
> I hadn't realized that!  I thought it always worked through the CAPI to
> the ISDN card/TA.

I haven't tried it myself, so I hope that I have not misunderstood the notes
in the readmes etc. Perhaps it is only for external TAs, but I don't think so.
There is currently a thread 'modem mit ISDNPM' in de.comp.os.os2.misc.

> 
> I've asked this question before, of other people: do YOU know how to get
> hold of the author, other than by snail mail?  I want to know how to use
> the "paketfilter" capability, to prevent unwanted Dial-on-Demands.
>

I contacted him by email some time ago at mywi@ruf.uni-freiburg.de, but
you have probably tried that.

There are frequent posts on ISDNPM in de.comp.os.os2.setup and
de.comp.os.os2.networking if you can read a little German.
I seem to remember a thread on paketfilter a couple of months back
but I can't remember the details now.

-- 
Dave

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From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu                      16-Sep-99 06:37:16
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu

In article
<Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-zp1cJeGD4P3R@yourmachine.yourlocaldomain.yourisp>,
  donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:

> (It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
> program?)

*Ugh*!

You do realize that you must die now... It's the only pun-ishment fit
for your evil ways. :)

--
-Steven Hunter               *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17|
hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* |       Atlanta GA        |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: nospamless@home.com                               16-Sep-99 06:33:27
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Orb works under OS/2!

From: "gH" <nospamless@home.com>

In <Pine.SUN.3.91.990915213449.4679B-100000@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca>, on
09/16/99 
   at 01:36 AM, "Matthew@psych" <matthew@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca> said:

>Same experience here. The orb external scsi is great w/os/2 (linux too).

Can you swap the cart while you are using OS/2? Just wanna make the
removable ability was retained... :)

-- 
===Team OS/2, Team OS/2 at Taiwan, ICE News Beta Tester. Bovine Team===
======Warped Key Crucher, And OS/2 ISP CD Project Member. TBA  #3======

     Owner of PC End User Web Site       http://www.pcenduser.com/

      Java 1.1.7 - MR/2 ICE REG#:10510 - OS/2 T-Warp Connect 4.0
                            ICQ# = 8943567

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From: verysoft@wr.com.au                                16-Sep-99 05:36:04
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: verysoft@wr.com.au (Max)

Raphael Tennenbaum <raphaelt@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

I had some similar trouble on a similar setup.
What I found, was some flaky cache memory..
If you run HPFS, it sorts its structure on startup, naturally via ram
and cache, this is quiet easy to check, just disable the ext cache in
your bios and see how you go, hope i didn't duplicate anything here,
but I didn't have time to go through all the responses..

		good luck Max


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From: fat_ox@hotmail.com                                16-Sep-99 09:45:03
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Junkbuster/2 blockfile - THANKS

From: "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com>

Excellent, thanks!!


Regards,
Xtralarge OS/2 fan
	
Opinions expressed are mine only.  Ignore them and
killfile me.  Leave the University and/or my ISP alone, 
I don't speak for them, they have nothing to do with it, 
and they probably have more lawyers than you anyway.  


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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      15-Sep-99 13:13:19
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: ? possible to "format c: /s" with DOS from A:?

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <QLLC0h0LvdvF-pn2-GG8CuDgTRhNK@localhost>, muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko)
writes:

>Is it possible to format C: /s from a DOS from A: instance? 
>Or use Sys c:?

I don't think so.  I haven't tried it on the C: device, but it 
fails if you try to SYS A: a floppy, even with the image file 
remapped to another letter so you can use the floppy device.

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: pallis@one.net.au                                 16-Sep-99 18:07:08
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: "Stan & Helen" <pallis@one.net.au>

Netscape 4.04 runs fine on warp3 with fp40 java 116

Ian Johnston <engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:7rlair$9qd$2@news.ox.ac.uk...
> John Hong (jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca) wrote:
>
> : I only know of one program that doesn't work (in that it won't
> : install on Warp 3) and that is Lotus Smartsuite 97 for Warp 4.
>
> Neither will Netscape v4.xx
>
> Ian


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From: muses9@cyberus.ca                                 16-Sep-99 08:26:07
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: ? possible to "format c: /s" with DOS from A:?

From: muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko)

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:50:34, Jack Wise 
<"jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org> made history by saying:

-> Is it possible - Yes.  The Floppy must be bootable and have
-> format.com/format.exe present.

I've tried it, which is why I asked. The format command dies on trying
to write the boot sector to C:. If you have actually succeeded in 
doing this, I'd sure like to know what you did.

I am however able to Sys b: (5.25 floppy).


-> You will end up with a bootable hard disk formatted for DOS and all
-> previous data removed.

That's what I want.


--
Marko
Ottawa

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From: miket@interact.net.au                             15-Sep-99 11:00:16
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Lost Mb's - where are they?

From: miket@interact.net.au    (Michael Taylor)

Just a wild guess here -

As this is an HPFS drive DOS will not see any files which have
long files names (ie longer than the old FAT 8.3 format)

DOS Utilities will therefore report different total sizes to the OS/2
ones.

It is not like VFAT or FAT32 on Win95 where mangled short names are 
presented to the 16bit DOS programs.

verysoft@wr.com.au (Max) writes:
> here is the DOS statement:
> 
> ->snip
> 
> MESSICON GIF      1143  11/08/98  9:14
> NAVICON  GIF      1194  11/08/98  9:14
> NETHELP1 CSS      2874  11/08/98  9:14
>        8 file(s)       8566 bytes used
> Total files listed:
>    12631 file(s)  306849633 bytes used
>                    78331904 bytes free
> 
> here is the OS/2 statement:
> 
> ->snip
> Directory of C:\XIRCOM\XAPPS\CEM33
> 
> 15/08/99   1:26      <DIR>           0  .
> 15/08/99   1:26      <DIR>           0  ..
> 25/08/97  11:08     792576           0  XRES.DLL
>         3 file(s)     792576 bytes used
> 
> Directory of C:\XIRCOM\XPS
> 
> 15/08/99   1:27      <DIR>           0  .
> 15/08/99   1:27      <DIR>           0  ..
>         2 file(s)          0 bytes used
> Total files listed:
>     15837 file(s)  439695109 bytes used
>                     78103552 bytes free
> 
> I already deleted a couple files, but the difference is easy to spot.
> 
> ...guess I just repartition on a rainy day :(
> 

--
Regards,                    Michael Taylor
Mike                        miket@interact.net.au
-------------------------------------------------
  Home Page: http://users.interact.net.au/~pmiy
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From: evzen@netbrno.cz                                  16-Sep-99 10:49:06
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Evzen Polenka" <evzen@netbrno.cz>

"Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:

> :>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
> :>program?)
>
> Ouch!

Hey! What's wrong with Czech programs?!  ;-)

    Bye, Evzen



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From: C.J.@btsoftware.com                               16-Sep-99 11:40:17
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Shareware!!!!!!!!!!!

From: "C.J." <C.J.@btsoftware.com>

Shareware for sale, to name a few:
 
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From: verysoft@wr.com.au                                16-Sep-99 09:05:15
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: verysoft@wr.com.au (Max)

Raphael Tennenbaum <raphaelt@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

I forgot to mention, I have had quiet some trouble with caches in
general, which mostly affects the HPFS partitions, WIN and DOS are not
affected because of their FAT-struct, they just crash every now and
than.
After blowing two MB's (i live in Sydney and it only happend in
summer) I bought a total motherfucker of a fan and put that in.
My computer sounds a bit like a vacuum cleaner now, but never missed
again.
Do not waste time and money on little suckers that fit into a slot or
run on 12V. they put more load on your powersupply and overheat that
one, get one with main voltage! 
these overheating problem could have hosed your soundcard as well.

but than again you may live in Alska and i never know, I just thought
because of thunderstorm etc, it may be a warm area you live in?
Definetely trust me on the cache memory, it wrecks havoc on your OS2,
and these cheap chip surface mounted on the board aren't worth their
silicon.

		all the best: Max

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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           16-Sep-99 13:05:23
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

Bob Eager (rde@tavi.co.uk) wrote:
: On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:31:31, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston) 
: wrote:

: > Forget the interface. I have *never* met an OS as unstable as Warp 4. On
: > average - and I am not trying to do anything particularly fancy, believe
: > me - I get complete systems hangs / crashes every four hours or so. It
makes
: > Windows 95 look like a model of stability.

: Weird. There must be more to this. Perhaps Warp 4 is hitting something
: hardware wise, or perhaps your spiffy new computer is unstable in 
: itself; there are isufficient data to know.

The machine itself is pretty good - a Viglen Pentium Pro server, with
reputable everything.

: I hate people who write the kind of thing I just wrote ("it works for 
: me") but I really suspect there is another factor besides Warp 4 at 
: work here.

I have found two bits of unreliable software: PMMail (timed fetch bug) and
Netscape 4.04 (hates opening lots of windows, goes unstable after about 4
and crashes after about 16). However, I have avoided as far as possible 
installing too much ... I have my doubts about emx.dll, and upgrading to
v0.7d (from v0.7c) has helped a bit...

Ian

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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk                           16-Sep-99 13:08:12
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)

Alex Taylor (alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca) wrote:

: However...  No version of OS/2 should be behaving that badly.  In my
: experience, this is a sign of flaky hardware - something of which
: OS/2 (in all versions) is _very_ unforgiving.

True. But trying to find the problem is non-trivial!,

: It may also be a bad video driver.  I've found that that can make quite
: a big difference, too.  (I've learned to stay away from ATI cards, in
: general, because the drivers tend to be really bad.)

Now that's worth remembering ... it does have an ATI video card. Maybe
I'll try swapping that before FDISKing away!

: Of course, you might try the latest fixpack to see if that helps, but
: you may not want to bother if you're that set against Warp 4...

I'm not set against Warp 4 per se, but I would like a stable system. The
whole reason I stuck my neck out and went for OS/2 in the first place is
that my research involves LARGE numerical simulations which I have to run
for hours or days. A MTBF of four hours is quite simply useless for me.

Ian

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From: "jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org                     16-Sep-99 08:10:17
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: ? possible to "format c: /s" with DOS from A:?

From: Jack Wise <"jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org>

Sorry, I re-read your original post.  I had assumed you had booted from
the floppy disk.

Jack Wise

Marko wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:50:34, Jack Wise
> <"jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org> made history by saying:
> 
> -> Is it possible - Yes.  The Floppy must be bootable and have
> -> format.com/format.exe present.
> 
> I've tried it, which is why I asked. The format command dies on trying
> to write the boot sector to C:. If you have actually succeeded in
> doing this, I'd sure like to know what you did.
> 
> I am however able to Sys b: (5.25 floppy).
> 
> -> You will end up with a bootable hard disk formatted for DOS and all
> -> previous data removed.
> 
> That's what I want.
> 
> --
> Marko
> Ottawa

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From: tim.timmins@bcs.org.uk                            16-Sep-99 14:30:29
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: Download Ia.n.i.!!! It's free!

From: Tim Timmins <tim.timmins@bcs.org.uk>

hmm, the link says:




                           THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED

                           You have reached this page after typing an URL
that was
                           in conflict with our site policy. This account
has been disconnected.

                           Please don't complain to us about this single
account anymore.
                           The account has been disconnected and we have
                           done everything we could to stop the abuse.

                           Within a few seconds you will be taken to our
homepage


Dominique Pivard wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:11:36, madQ <madq968@djeksta.comNOSPAM> wrote:
> >
> > Download Ia.n.i. RemoteControlSystem 1.2 beta. It's free!!!
> > New site: http://jump.to/IaniProject
>
> There are tons of free, useful OS/2 software around. Would you care to
> explain what Remote ControlSystem is and what is so special about it
> we all should feel a compelling need to download it?

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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com                           16-Sep-99 09:23:09
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: ? possible to "format c: /s" with DOS from A:?

From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>

On <QLLC0h0LvdvF-pn2-IJdYuzLcBkSL@localhost>, on 09/16/99 at 08:26 AM,
   muses9@cyberus.ca (Marko) said:

> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:50:34, Jack Wise 
> <"jwise@hal-pc.org"@hal-pc.org> made history by saying:

> -> Is it possible - Yes.  The Floppy must be bootable and have ->
> format.com/format.exe present.

> I've tried it, which is why I asked. The format command dies on trying
> to write the boot sector to C:. If you have actually succeeded in  doing
> this, I'd sure like to know what you did.

> I am however able to Sys b: (5.25 floppy).

I have found that only IBM's PC-DOS 7 can do this with large partitions.
MS-DOS 6.x and PC-DOS 6.x cannot handle partitions larger than 2 MB. Also,
if the partitioning was done with Windoze 9x, NT, or some flavors of Unix,
you will need to delete all the partitions and repartition it with FDISK.
Only PC-DOS 7 FDISK seems able to remove non-DOS paritions, BTW. 


--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 8
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: davek@clark.net                                   16-Sep-99 10:31:20
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Raphael Tennenbaum (raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net) wrote:         

: >After checking system voltages, I would get one of my HW test 
: >programs out and run it.  If my system passes, I'd try the other 
: >one :).  Both my programs are commercial and pretty basic -- 
: >they've rarely found a problem, but then again, I've been lucky 
: >enough to rarely have a problem.                                   

: I've come to be skeptical about these, having read dozens if not 
: hundreds of posts by Wxx users posting how their systems passed 
: Checkit just fine, something must be the matter with OS/2 if it 
: won't boot, etc -- on top of that is the general sense that these 
: are so rudimentary they seem to do little good whatsoever.

: Do any of the ones you use happen to be shareware?  And have you
: perhaps got urls?                                                   

They'll find basic problems, but not some of the tougher ones.  I
don't have any URLs for shareware ones.  I've never looked since I
already have a couple.

: >Remember that flakey memory is *very* difficult to detect.  I've 
: >had to run a memory test program for 3 days to get it to finally 
: >find the bad sim that was causing OS/2 to crash within 5 minutes 
: >of boot...                                                         

: >If the HW tests out, I'd reset my CMOS.  If you can get a program 
: >that wipes the whole thing, that works better -- sometimes a 
: >glitch puts something in a non-configurable area.  If my BIOS is 
: >flash, I'd reload it.

I remcommed this again.  I've had errant programs change the dynamic
RAM refresh rate setting -- causing the weaker bits to corrupt --
eventually.  This was not settable via the CMOS setup program...

: I'm beginning to suspect the drives, actually, -- see my response 
: to Tony W -- but then again these depend so closely on the other 
: stuff in the computer I haven't ruled out some kind of short or 
: power supply problem.

Drives (multiple) failing simultaneously is rare.  They'd be the one
of the last things that I check.  If only one failed, then I'd be more
suspicious of them.  Multiple drives is more likely a controller,
cable, or memory (including, as others have pointed out, cache).

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca                16-Sep-99 13:53:01
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: jack.troughton@nospam.videotron.ca (Jack Troughton)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:08:25, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston) 
wrote:

Alex Taylor (alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca) wrote:

: However...  No version of OS/2 should be behaving that badly.  In my
: experience, this is a sign of flaky hardware - something of which
: OS/2 (in all versions) is _very_ unforgiving.

True. But trying to find the problem is non-trivial!,

: It may also be a bad video driver.  I've found that that can make quite
: a big difference, too.  (I've learned to stay away from ATI cards, in
: general, because the drivers tend to be really bad.)

Now that's worth remembering ... it does have an ATI video card. Maybe
I'll try swapping that before FDISKing away!

: Of course, you might try the latest fixpack to see if that helps, but
: you may not want to bother if you're that set against Warp 4...

I'm not set against Warp 4 per se, but I would like a stable system. The
whole reason I stuck my neck out and went for OS/2 in the first place is
that my research involves LARGE numerical simulations which I have to run
for hours or days. A MTBF of four hours is quite simply useless for me.

Ian

I agree... warp4 here is a rock.  What fixpack are you at?  Warp4 
without fixpacks was quite unstable for me... the really stable 
fixpacks here were 5, 8, 9, and 10; 10 has been really nice.  Of 
course, YMMV, but whether your fixed up to current levels will make a 
big difference.

Also, check your drivers.  If you're using an ATI, check to see if the
GRADD drivers support your chipset and try them out; my brother is 
running an ATI card with GRADD and his system is also rock solid.  I 
believe the current level for the GRADD drivers is 0.88.

Jack Troughton   ICQ:7494149
http://jakesplace.dhs.org
jack.troughton at videotron.ca
jake at jakesplace.dhs.org
Montral PQ Canada

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From: davek@clark.net                                   16-Sep-99 10:41:18
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: Lost mb's - found them

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Max (verysoft@wr.com.au) wrote:                                       

: As in previous article "Lost mb's where are they" I posted the 
: problem that i had when unzipping some files to my OS2  notebook. I 
: then observed some vicous disk activity and could actuall watch the 
: availble disk space going down the drain. Wit the utility FileGraf 
: supplied kindly by M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn (hope I got that 
: right), I easily spotted th a file (gunzip.info) wich is a text 
: file of some kb, actually occupied some 126 mb on my hard disk. It 
: was easy enough to delete this file, and free the space, looking at 
: the directory in icon view it was not quiet obvious what happened. 
: The system is still a bit wacky, as rporting a locked disk when 
: running chkdsk, but I can live with that i suppose. A forced chkdsk 
: hammered the harddisk for some minutes, but couldn't resolve this 
: error. Thanks as well to those who replied via e-mail..             

If the disk is reported as locked, chkdsk will not fix any problems.
Did you try booting from floppy or force the chkdsk to run at startup?
Did you make sure that you're not on the disk being checked (i.e., if
checking "D", at the C> prompt, run chkdsk d: /f), and that the chkdsk
program is not being run from the disk being checked?

Also, with older versions of chkdsk, it sometimes took as many as 3
runs of chkdsk for it clean up all of the errors.

If chkdsk runs and continues to report errors, I wouldn't continue to
use the disk.  I'd backup, format (long), restore -- and hope for the
best...

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          16-Sep-99 14:32:14
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:49:13, "Evzen Polenka" <evzen@netbrno.cz> a crit 
dans un message:

> "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
> 
> > :>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
> > :>program?)
> >
> > Ouch!
> 
> Hey! What's wrong with Czech programs?!  ;-)

Perhaps it's a "national" thing, and I don't want to sound like I'm biting 
any gift horses in the butt, so I'll explain the joke. 

Many businesses pay their workers by check, or "cheque", in the US, but 
make no allowances for converting these to spendable cash. In many poor 
neighborhoods where many people can not afford the high minimum balances, 
or high monthly fees charged to maintain bank accounts, there are 
commercial "Check Cashing" stores that will provide the service for a 
percentage fee. 

You see signs "CHECK CASHING" quite prominently displayed, in fact. Thus, 
the pun.

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: zayne@omen.com.au                                 16-Sep-99 14:04:07
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: driver needed - HP35480A DAT

From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)

"Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <noone@llondel.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>I don't bother with things like that. Go find the GTAK/GTAR stuff on
>Hobbes and use that. I've got an HP DAT drive that has been used with
>this software for several years with no problem, including several
>complete restores onto different disk drives and when rearranging
>partitions (not owning Partition Magic at the time).

Make very sure you read -all- the docos that come with gtar.  There
are unclear potential problems talked about breifly in the docs that
have to do with corruption at media end with ACL's and EA's.

Regards,
Craig

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From: cytan@fnal.gov                                    16-Sep-99 14:11:20
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 install problems

From: cytan@fnal.gov (Cheng-Yang Tan)

>I'm having problems getting Java 1.1.8 to install properly.  Running
>Feature Install 1.25 from the temporary directory I unzipped the
>javainuf.exe file into results in the following cryptic error message:
>"Unable to parse OS2PREF.JS. Exiting."

You might try pkunzip2 on javainuf.exe rather than unzip because unzip
cannot handle one of the files in the distribution. pkunzip is in
the ibmcom directory

On another note:
I can't even get Java 1.1.8 to install on 2 different machines!
My problem seems to be with rexx on precheck.cmd from the distribution
which gives the following error:

SYS1041: The name 1 is not recognized as an
internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
    23 *-*   ReadSysLevel('e:\os2\install\syslevel.os2');


which is a subroutine in the precheck.cmd file.

Sad to say, I've already posted this problem on os2.bugs and no-one
has given me a workable solution.

If there is a way to installed 1.1.8 by hand, I'd like to know it.
Thanks!

Cheng-Yang Tan
cytan@fnal.gov

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From: viewme18                                          16-Sep-99 06:16:02
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: Need help with corrupt ea

From: viewme18 (PL)

Already tried that and it did not work. It says it cannot access the
root on drive d. (May not be exact wording) Even booted up with the
install disk and then tried. Still no luck.
What would happen if I deleted the corupted ea's on that drive and
then did the chkdsk?
Woud I lose all the data on that drive or would it repair it?
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:06:03 GMT, osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio)
wrote:

>In article <rH7eN0GPEgDNYhK1pr=SUpMOAfWr@4ax.com>, PL <viewme18@hotmail.com>
says:
>>
>>Could someone tell me how to repair the corrupt EA on 2 of my Fat
>>partitons. I can access them with File manager but not with the OS/2
>>drive icons. 
>
>A command line chkdsk /f should not make it worse.
>
>Osmo

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           16-Sep-99 17:38:24
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:00
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:27:08, "Wayne Bickell" 
<wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:

> I'm using WBI from IBM Alphaworks. It not only caches
> better than Netscape but will notify you of any pages that
> have been updated. It's also a freebie although it hasn't
> been updated for a while.
> 

I used WBI for a while. I quit using it because it didn't always 
recognize that a page had been updated (sometimes for more than one 
update cycle). I now use SmartCache , from 
http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html

It seems to work very well, but does require HPFS, and a later version
of JAVA (1.1.7, or better) to work properly. The other advantage to 
SmartCache, is that you should be able to use it on any platform (with
JAVA, and long file name, support), and with any browser that can be 
configured to use a Proxie server. I don't know about using it on 
anything, except OS/2, but I do share it among various browsers 
(Netscape 2.02, Netscape 4.04, StarOffice 5.1, and HotJava).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Sep-99 13:23:18
  To: All                                               16-Sep-99 22:38:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Dale Erwin <derwin@airmail.net> said:

>RIGHT!!!??  Like IBM supports it at all!!!!!

You're kidding right?  They support whatever makes enormous profits - until it
no longer makes enormous profits.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             16-Sep-99 20:55:18
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:49:13, "Evzen Polenka" <evzen@netbrno.cz> wrote:

> > :>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
> > :>program?)

> > Ouch!
 
> Hey! What's wrong with Czech programs?!  ;-)

I've got a Russian proggie called Dos Navigator that's one of the best
shells I've ever seen and it even has an OS/2 icon!

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se                      16-Sep-99 21:58:19
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: ? possible to "format c: /s" with DOS from A:?

From: Martin Nisshagen <forkd4nisse@dtek.chalmers.se>

Bob Germer [] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

 Only PC-DOS 7 FDISK seems able to remove non-DOS paritions, BTW. 

Tip (for they who don't have access to DOS-7):

A good utility that so far has been able to remove all type of partitions for
me has been the DOS tool delpart.exe from MS (try FTP search on the file name
or get it from my badly updated http://home2.sbbs2.com/mn/start page).

Has zapped everything I tried in a second!

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

-- 
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.0: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:-)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.sbbs2.com/mn      
home2.sbbs2.com/mn/kw

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From: fegehrke@worldnet.att.net                         16-Sep-99 17:31:21
  To: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de                      17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Diamond Viper v770 os/2?

To: Carsten Frank <cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>
From: Forrest Gehrke <fegehrke@worldnet.att.net>

Carsten Frank wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:20:04, Forrest Gehrke
> <fegehrke@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > I have been told by a Win98 user the Diamond Viper V770
> > is a pretty good video card. But the question is: does
> > a driver exist for it under OS/2?
> > //
> 
> Yes, look on the www.nvidia.com
> 
> It is a good video driver. But I'm gone back to my matrox mytique,
> because I couldn't get more then 60 hz.
> But the driver is fast and stable.

Thank you.  My monitor is capable of more than 60 Hz. Would you
say that the Matrox mystique is a better video card?
And where is the driver for it?  Does the same requirement
exist for the fixpak?  Does this card need tnt2 support?
//

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Sep-99 18:27:16
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson) said:
>I've got a Russian proggie called Dos Navigator that's one of the
>best shells I've ever seen

Hm, howitzer?  Mortar?  Artilliary?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          17-Sep-99 08:00:26
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:49:13 +0200, Evzen Polenka wrote:

:>"Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
:>
:>> :>(It's from Czechoslovakia, so I guess that makes it a Czech-Cacheing
:>> :>program?)
:>>
:>> Ouch!
:>
:>Hey! What's wrong with Czech programs?!  ;-)
:>
:>    Bye, Evzen
:>
:>
:>

Dunno, maybe it's because the Czech bounced! :-)

Cheers 'n beers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
******************************************************



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From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com                             16-Sep-99 20:55:17
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 install problems

From: rgibson@ix.netcom.com (Ron Gibson)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 03:50:46, hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

> In <slrn7u05tu.39.possum@pooh.100acrewood>, possum@fred.net (Mike Trettel)
writes:
 
> >I'm having problems getting Java 1.1.8 to install properly.  
 
> 'cuz some turkey in Marketing read a story in a magazine & decided a 
> web browser was *the* cool way to do everything. We're just lucky
> he came along after 1996 or we'd be trying to install the whole o.s.
> through the dumb 'feature installer.'  coyote ugly . . . .
 
When I set this stuff up I setit up in a featue directory with a
subdirectory feature1. Can I now delete that subdirectory?

                      email: rgibson@ix.netcom.com

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From: anon@anonymous.co.uk                              16-Sep-99 20:56:00
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: REQ: Drivers for Cirrus Logic 5434 for OS/2

From: anon@anonymous.co.uk (Steve)

Thanks Baden, that sorted it

Steve

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Sep-99 18:39:26
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

Bob Grimes <rsgrimes@earthlink.net> said:

>I never go by those so-called "warnings" knowing that the later
>fixpacks make the difference.

Those are primarily so IBM won't have to fix something if it doesn't do what
they say.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          16-Sep-99 23:42:26
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Junkbuster/2 blockfile - THANKS

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:45:06, "OS/2 Fan" <fat_ox@hotmail.com> a crit dans 
un message:

> Excellent, thanks!!

By the way, this blockfile works perfectly with SmartCache. Just rename it 
to "fail.cnf", or point to it in scache.cnf in place of fail.cnf.

(I wonder if I can point to it as an http://... location?)


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: landreth@ykz.net                                  17-Sep-99 00:49:02
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Anyone using Abit Dual Celeron B6 with OS/2 WSeB?

From: "Landreth" <landreth@ykz.net>

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:17:49 -0700, Robert Basler wrote:

>I'm looking at the Abit Dual Celeron B6 motherboard as a platform for
>OS/2 Warp Server for e-Business running SMP.  Anyone else tried this
>board?  Experiences?  At Can$450 for a SMP system including two 400MHz
>celerons, it is very hard to beat.

A friend of mine got the board and tried to get it to run with NT... but NT
won't locate both CPU's. Don't know if he manage to get work yet. I'll figure
that one out & get back later.




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From: possum@fred.net                                   17-Sep-99 00:15:28
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:54:29
Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 install problems

From: possum@fred.net (Mike Trettel)

On 16 Sep 1999 14:11:40 GMT, Cheng-Yang Tan <cytan@fnal.gov> wrote:
>You might try pkunzip2 on javainuf.exe rather than unzip because unzip
>cannot handle one of the files in the distribution. pkunzip is in
>the ibmcom directory

Good tip

>
>On another note:
>I can't even get Java 1.1.8 to install on 2 different machines!
>My problem seems to be with rexx on precheck.cmd from the distribution
>which gives the following error:

snip..
>
>If there is a way to installed 1.1.8 by hand, I'd like to know it.
>Thanks!
>
>Cheng-Yang Tan
>cytan@fnal.gov
>
I finally got it to install using the cid method.  I first had to
delete the FI.INI and FI.BAK files in the xx/os2/install directory.  I
found this tip on the os2.org web site.  Perhaps this will work for
you.  Doing it via the cid install is a lot faster, I must say-the
whole thing was done in under 2 minutes.  Good luck.

-- 
===========
Mike Trettel    trettel (Shift 2) fred (dinky little round thing) net

I don't buy from spammers.  No exceptions.  Fix the reply line to mail me.

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 16-Sep-99 18:32:19
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

In article <geribeurzfyrlqvnycvcrkpbz.fi6gzf1.pminews@news.dial.pipex.com>,
"Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:40:00 -0400, Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:
>
>->It became fairly clear that I was up against some dire hardware
>->situation -- but what?
>
>Grab my memos2.zip file from http://hobbes.nmsu.edu and unzip it. Boot to
>an OS/2 command prompt only and run
>
>memos2 9999

I went over to Hobbes pretty quickly.  

Unfortunately my system's at a point -- happened around
yesterday morning -- where I can no longer boot of any of
the three OS/2 parts. on the HD (3, 4, maint).  I had hoped
I might be able to run memos off a diskette boot: the first
time I tried it said it couldn't find NLS, so I tried again
off the diskette I use to run FC/2 in diskette-boot mode,
which has three or four dlls -- moucalls, viocall, et al. 
When I tried running memos2 I got 

SYS0318: Message file OSO001.MSG cannot be found for message
3175.

Likewise when I tried running it off the last disk of the
"create utility diskettes" bunch.  I guess it's a long way
of saying it's a (minimal) PM prog.  

Trying to eliminate the smallest things first: I guess I'll
run this dos-ish utility called TESTMEM.EXE, but it doesn't
seem to test the cache.  Of course it's also nice to have
testing while I'm doing other things.

All this help and suggestions are appreciated.  Should be
getting down to fixing things in earnest tomorrow (gulp).

>
>then leave it alone. If it passes through all 9999 runs of the test then
>the basic hardware, processor, memory and cache RAM is _probably_ OK and
>you need to look deeper.
>
>
>Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
>(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
>

-Ray

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com               16-Sep-99 23:15:27
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: "Jan Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com>

>Forget the interface. I have *never* met an OS as unstable as Warp 4. On
>average - and I am not trying to do anything particularly fancy, believe
>me - I get complete systems hangs / crashes every four hours or so. It makes
>Windows 95 look like a model of stability.

Warp4 without fixpaks has some WPS issues. But it sounds more like you had
hardware/driver related problems. My Warp4 systems has been up for months
without need of reboot. I guess it depends on what hardware one has.

>So to anyone choosing between the two, I would say "don't even think about
>installing Warp 4". Sometime in the next week or so I will blast the
>accursed OS off the face of my system, install Warp 3 as a stop gap and
>make a serious decision about whether to use Linux or Windows NT in the 
>long term. I think MS is going to win.

OK. Hope you're happy with whatever system you end up with.


 /j



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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                16-Sep-99 20:20:26
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: Strong Encryption Export Rules relaxed?

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof) said:

>>     What difficulty? The 128bit is available for download to anyone in
>> the USA (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).

>Or already using Fortify.

Anybody that wants the stuff for espionage already has bootlegged versions of
the real thing if they want it.  Shhhh.  Don't tell any
politico-government-bureaucrats that.

What?  They sell out security at Los Alamos and refuse to let encryption sell? 

Ludicrous.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: mnieuw@zap.a2000.nl                               17-Sep-99 02:23:23
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: Mat Nieuwenhoven <mnieuw@zap.a2000.nl>

> 
> Raphael Tennenbaum (raphaelt@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
> 
> Last week my sound card blew up -- I guess, though at this point
> I'm not sure about anything.  Within a few days, my Warp4 partition
> started misbehaving, and things got worse, to the point where I
> recreated it from tape archives.  Then it worked -- for three or
> four days.
> 
> 

Seeing that your problems seem to getting worse in time, have you
checked for viruses?

Good luck, Mat Nieuwenhoven

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From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au                      17-Sep-99 09:32:11
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: Strong Encryption Export Rules relaxed?

From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:45:27, James Moe <sma@spam-not.rtd.com> wrote:

>     What difficulty? The 128bit is available for download to anyone in
> the USA (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).

Or already using Fortify.





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From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com                             16-Sep-99 11:45:19
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: "Doug Darrow" <d.s.darrow@nvinet.com>

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:51:08 GMT, satkinson@a-znet.com wrote:

>I'm debating whether to run Warp 3 or 4, with a strong prejudice
>towards 3. I prefer it because - in my limited experience - it loads
>and runs faster, and is more in keeping with the notion of an object-
>oriented system. (4's introduction of a Win-95 like bar and menus in
>various windows bothered me...)

It loads and runs faster because W4 is loading and running MORE. You
want it to run faster? Don't use the 'extras' in Warp 4 (like
voicetype, peer networking) And, if anything W4 is MORE OO than three.
Don't like the "Win-95 like bar and memus"? Don't use them. You can run
the W3 style button bar or PC2 or nothing at all, whatever you want.
Finally, W3 isn't supported by IBM any more. I know, OS/2 isn't
supported in any meaningful way anyway. But at least W4 is still being
updated and enhanced whereas W3 is NOT. New features and functionality
can still be added to W4 via FPs -- not so W3.


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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          17-Sep-99 08:08:28
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:53:02 GMT, Jack Troughton wrote:

:>Also, check your drivers.  If you're using an ATI, check to see if the
:>GRADD drivers support your chipset and try them out; my brother is 
:>running an ATI card with GRADD and his system is also rock solid.  I 
:>believe the current level for the GRADD drivers is 0.88.

A ltittle typo there methinks. The current GRADD drivers are .080.
I'm running 0.79 with an ATI MACH 64 and they are much better
than the ATI drivers. For some reason I can't get 0.80 to install.
It throws up a messege "can't create c\can'trememberthename"
and quits. I reboot to a blank screen. I noticed there isn't a colon
after the "c" perhaps there's an error in the install script.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
******************************************************



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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          17-Sep-99 09:03:06
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

As a followup to myself I got curious and installed the 0.80
drivers again. This time the install went through without a
hitch but on reboot I got a corrupt screen not a blank one.
There were vertical bars at the bottom of the screen and
two corrupt boxes filling the rest. I'm back at 0.79 again.

Cheers

Wayne

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:08:56 +0800, Wayne Bickell wrote:

:>On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:53:02 GMT, Jack Troughton wrote:
:>
:>:>Also, check your drivers.  If you're using an ATI, check to see if the
:>:>GRADD drivers support your chipset and try them out; my brother is 
:>:>running an ATI card with GRADD and his system is also rock solid.  I 
:>:>believe the current level for the GRADD drivers is 0.88.
:>
:>A ltittle typo there methinks. The current GRADD drivers are .080.
:>I'm running 0.79 with an ATI MACH 64 and they are much better
:>than the ATI drivers. For some reason I can't get 0.80 to install.
:>It throws up a messege "can't create c\can'trememberthename"
:>and quits. I reboot to a blank screen. I noticed there isn't a colon
:>after the "c" perhaps there's an error in the install script.
:>
:>Cheers
:>
:>Wayne
:>
:>******************************************************
:>Wayne Bickell
:>Tokyo, Japan
:>wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
:>******************************************************
:>           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
:>******************************************************
:>
:>
:>

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
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From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk                          16-Sep-99 22:48:21
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: Strong Encryption Export Rules relaxed?

From: ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <U2S43kDg69xf090yn@ibm.net> dcasey@ibm.net "Dan Casey" writes:

> Just heard that Mr. Clinton has ordered the Export rules on
> Strong Encryption technology be relaxed. Haven't seen and/or
> heard any details, yet, but this may signal the end of
> difficulties in obtaining the 128bit encrypted versions of
> Netscape.

Yay!  Time to light up those Havanas.  <g>  (Mind you, it's past
time: the Fortify folks were making 100% nonsense of the rules.)
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: benbowc@tui.lincoln.ac.nz                         17-Sep-99 13:21:08
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

From: Craig Benbow <benbowc@tui.lincoln.ac.nz>

Add to this decent network setup programs, a more visually appealing interface
all the fixes and we would have a pretty good OS.

Craig

Richard Hasty wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:13:02 -0700, Tim Martin wrote:
>
> >I'll repeat this once again: our IBM insiders say there will
> >be no release of a Warp 5 product by anyone this year.
> >This year being 1999.  There is no reason to release a Warp
> >5 client at this time.  Nothing offered by Microsoft has yet
> >to equal the power, stability and quality of the current OS/2
> >Warp 4 product.
>
> True, but IMO, IBM does need to at least release a refreshed Warp 4 client,
> thats y2k ready out of the box.  Not to mention HD>4.3/8.4Gb support, among
> other newer HW items.  With any new computer today, you have to download the
> fix for bigger HD, before you can install os/2.  Techincally you can set
your
> HD to normal mode the os/2 will see it just fine, but I think this requires
> all bootable partitions to be in the first 1024 cyl (528Mb).  You can
install
> in normal mode, dl the updated drivers, and then reinstall, but this should
> be an unneccessary step.
>
> kb0uov@pcis.net

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From: iioannou@u.washington.edu                         17-Sep-99 02:12:28
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Free internet with OS/2?

From: iioannou@u.washington.edu (I. Ioannou)

Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a way to obtain free internet on OS/2. Anybody
knows?

Thanks, John
-- 
      Ioannis   I    Ioannou                   phone: (206)-543-1372
      g-2 group, Atomic Physics                fax:   (206)-685-0635
      Department of Physics           
      University of Washington        e-mail: iioannou@u.washington.edu

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          17-Sep-99 11:12:15
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: 3 vs. 4

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

The latest fixpak for the UK version of Warp4 is fixpak 9.
I've been running it here with no problems, with GRADD
0.79 for my ATI MACH 64 card.

Cheers

Wayne


On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:14:08 +0200, Christian Hennecke wrote:

:>Ian Johnston schrieb:
:>
:>> Now that's worth remembering ... it does have an ATI video card. Maybe
:>> I'll try swapping that before FDISKing away!
:>
:>ATI is known for making corrupt drivers. To get the thing working you'll
:>need to try different ones from ATI, the GRADD drivers or SDD. AFAIK the
:>latest GRADD drivers from IBM work quite well with most ATI cards.
:>I have a Matrox Millennium I and the only thing that hangs Warp 4 is
:>Netscape Navigator 4.x.
:>
:>Another thing you should consider is applying a fixpak, at least FP#5.
:>FP#9 and #10 also were quite stable here. I recently applied FP#11 and
:>apart from the directory archive bit problem all seems well. I'd suggest
:>applying FP#9 or later, because some programs rely on new functionality.
:>
:>Christian Hennecke
:>-- 
:>Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
******************************************************



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From: askbill*AT*ibm.net                                17-Sep-99 10:37:20
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: Free internet with OS/2?

From: askbill*AT*ibm.net

In <7rs839$mti$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>, on 09/17/99 
   at 02:12 AM, iioannou@u.washington.edu (I. Ioannou) said:

>Hi all,

>I was wondering if there is a way to obtain free internet on OS/2.
>Anybody knows?

OS/2 - from somewhere in Warp 3 onward - ships with two dialers, one of
which is  configured only for IBM.NET (now owned by ATT) which is a "for
fee" service.

The other - DOIP "Dial Other Internet Pproviders" can with not a lot of
effort, be configured to connect to most other ISP's - including at least
a few who are "free" or advertising-driven.

There are also third-party dialers for OS/2, such as InJoy, which is very
flexible, low-cost but not free software, and probably more than one free
dialer.

All of the above, of course, require OS/2's TCP/IP to be installed and
running.

To the extent that a service provider, free or otherwise, is TCP/IP
standards  compliant, and support Netscape navigator as a browser for
their pages,  they would not care if you were using OS/2 or something
else.

Their tech support staff, however, would generally not be able to help you
 with setting up anything but Windows - or possibly LINUX.  If in need,
get the LINUX settings and work from there, as they will be "information"
rather than "click the left box".

To give you an idea, a major ISP here used a local answering service as
their "help desk" to talk customers through the WeenDoze install.  None of
the staff had PC's - most had never used one.  They just had printed pages
from the manual.  Did a fair job of it too.

Of course, any ISP who support only MS Explorer won't be of much use to
you.

Good luck with it!

Bill Hacker
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
askbill@ibm.net (William B. Hacker, III)

Titanic '12   NYSE '29   Windows '95 and subsequent.....
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: verysoft@wr.com.au                                17-Sep-99 02:37:17
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: dire need of HELP!

From: verysoft@wr.com.au (Max)


I don't see the problem of memory checking, you probably have multiple
SIMMS, just throw some out and have it running on one, just check your
MB-manual for possible configs ( you might want to buy anew one
anyway, if it isn't that you upgrade your machine this way), and just
switch all the bloody Cache of in your BIOS.
If that doesn't help borrow or buy some CPU and try that.
I realise that not everybody throws his box out and buys a new one,
but before I try to get into the board with a multimeter, I spend some
$ on chips and check that out one by one!
If the system voltage for your CPU is out, thats blown for good now,
if the power supply is wacky most peripherials wouldn't function
either..
Since you run SCSI, I can't see any connection between your blown
soundcard and your stuffed partition. Is your WIN still OK?
If not you might have a termination problem with your scsi, did you
mix some old resistor terminated scsi with some new model that has
active termination? that wipes entire partions at startup. Or did you
add some new SCSI device? You said you checked cables already..
Another point may be the PCI-bus, did you swap some cards around ?
You probably know that your PCI Slots have different priorities, if
your sound card was PCI, you might have mixed up some cards?

		good luck: Max

		......no fuzzin' for nuzzin'


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From: r.dunham@onsemi.com                               16-Sep-99 08:55:24
  To: jaygib@usa.net                                    17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: Orb works under OS/2!

To: dcasey@ibm.net, Jay Gibberman <jaygib@usa.net>
From: "Richard M. Dunham" <r.dunham@onsemi.com>

Dan, Jay and All:  I was reluctant last Friday to purchase the Mac external
SCSI unit when my son and I were at a local electronics shop but he convinced
me.  I guess I should listen to him more often!

As for the setup:

I have a Thinkpad 385XD running FP11 with DDKs xr_d001.1dk & xr_d001.2dk
which were installed prior to this purchase.  These are available at:

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/xr_d001/

My SCSI unit is an Adaptec SlimSCSI 1460C with 50 pin to PCMCIA card cable.
SCSI IDs are switch selectable on the side of the unit.  My setting is 4.

The only problem encountered was that the system initially would not
recognize it.  I put out a posting and Lenard responded with the same
problem.  He fixed this by running FDisk, deleting the partition and then
setup the partition and reformatted.  I did this and it worked.

I've tested the unit in the following manner with good results:

1.  FDiskPM with multiple partitions i.e.; H, I,...,
2.  FDiskPM with one large primary partition,
3.  FDiskPM with 2 primary partitions-this was done to test with my NT system
so I had an HPFS and a FAT partition.  (BTW, NT will NOT recognize this
drive.  No built in support like OS/2.  Only drivers presently available from
the manufacturer is support for their EIDE device.  A readme file in their
ZIP'd file does mention an ADD driver but it is not in this package),
4.  I have copied whole directories, files, made backups using BA2Pro and all
work,
5.  Ejected disk and retried, etc.

The drive was recognized and very usable in all tests.  No shutdown was
performed during the testing.  I'm not sure what other tests I could do at
this time but it appears to be working fine.

The owners manual which does not come with the unit but is available at:

ftp://209.185.119.20/manual/scsi_owners_manual.pdf

In fact I just downloaded it and am looking at it right now for the first
time!

If you have any other questions please let me know.

Regards:  Dick

************

Dan Casey wrote:

> In article <37DFB4FB.C4A0D6B7@onsemi.com>, you wrote:
> >Just wanted to let you know that I recently purchased an Orb SCSI
> >external drive and it is working well under OS/2 using Fixpak 11 and the
> >updated device drivers fixpak.
> >
> >Just plugged it into my Thinkpad 385XD's PCMCIA SCSI card slot.  Powered
> >it up and FDISKed the MAC formatted cartridge.  I now have another 2.2GB
> >of needed storage space.
> >
> >You may want to let your customers know that this unit does work under
> >OS/2.
>
> We've been discussing you success on the Hardware mailing list, and I
> was asked to get this information from you:
>
> Can anyone find out what solution and or problems he had connecting to
> OS/2  (cabling, terminator and Controller?
>
> --
> **************************************************************
> *  Dan Casey                                                 *
> *  President                                                 *
> *  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
> *  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
> *  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
> *  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
> *  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
> *  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
> **************************************************************
> *  E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key             *
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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               16-Sep-99 21:33:08
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Craig Benbow wrote:

> Add to this decent network setup programs, a more visually appealing
interface
> all the fixes and we would have a pretty good OS.

We already have the best OS/2 on the market today.  Microsoft
has yet to offer anything equal to the WPS interface.  IBM has
given us a steady stream of FREE updated fixpaks, drivers and features.
We are not lacking in productivity applications.  If you want Kmart
frills turn to Microsoft and you'll get Kmart quality.  If you want a
powerful, stable, solid OS that hasn't been matched yet by any other
operating system maker, stick with OS/2.

> Craig
>
> Richard Hasty wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:13:02 -0700, Tim Martin wrote:
> >
> > >I'll repeat this once again: our IBM insiders say there will
> > >be no release of a Warp 5 product by anyone this year.
> > >This year being 1999.  There is no reason to release a Warp
> > >5 client at this time.  Nothing offered by Microsoft has yet
> > >to equal the power, stability and quality of the current OS/2
> > >Warp 4 product.
> >
> > True, but IMO, IBM does need to at least release a refreshed Warp 4
client,
> > thats y2k ready out of the box.

I don't think IBM is interested in the personal opinions of
the home user.  Their concern is with the corporate user.

> > Not to mention HD>4.3/8.4Gb support, among
> > other newer HW items.

This OS/2 support is free for the download.  It is also
offered by those who preload OS/2 (IB for example)
and on low-cost CD disk.

> > With any new computer today, you have to download the
> > fix for bigger HD, before you can install os/2.

But the support is there, is available, is free.  The corporate
IT would know this.  IBM is not pitching OS/2 to the home
user but anyone wanting to install OS/2 on a home or SOHO
machine should certainly look into what is required for them
to run it on their particular system.  After all, they can walk
into Circuit Silly or Monkey Wards and buy a machine prepped
and ready.  They cannot do that with OS/2.  As with Linux, any
home user would be prudent and wise to check first.

> > Techincally you can set your
> > HD to normal mode the os/2 will see it just fine, but I think this
requires
> > all bootable partitions to be in the first 1024 cyl (528Mb).  You can
install
> > in normal mode, dl the updated drivers, and then reinstall, but this
should
> > be an unneccessary step.

For whom?  The home user?  IBM is not pitching OS/2 to the
home user.  Why do OS/2 users refuse to accept that?  IBM has
conceded to Microsoft Windows and has stated so publicly.  As
a seasoned OS/2 user you know to seek any assistance you need
from other seasoned OS/2 users.  New OS/2 users are not courted.
They will have to learn to do that.  If you want to bring other OS/2
users into the fold you, as a seasoned OS/2 user, have the answers.

> > kb0uov@pcis.net




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From: nospam                                            17-Sep-99 06:27:06
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:02
Subj: Re: how to 'crack' the OS/2 Warp 4 trial ver?

From: glennth@<nospam>senet.com.au (Glenn Thompson)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:07:51, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy 
Donnelly) wrote:

-> On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:15:58, glennth@<nospam>senet.com.au (Glenn Thompson)
-> a crit dans un message:
-> 
-> > -> > I remember that a while ago somebody came up with a technique to
make the
-> > -> > OS/2 4.0 45-day trial version that IBM gave away into the full
-> > -> > version.
-> > -> 
-> > -> I remember how, but it only sticks in my mind because I was amazed
that IBM
-> > -> made it so simple to defeat. Self-evident, even.
-> > 
-> > 'scuse my ignorance, but TRIAL version !?!
-> > How was this distributed ?
-> > I bought Warp 3 & recieved Warp 4 in a two for one deal at the end of 
-> > Warp 3's retail life.
->
-> No idea, and I've never seen it.
-> 
-> Good luck,
-> Buddy

Good Luck I have, I'm legally  Warped  :-))
found my registration papers.

Thanks Bud,
Glenn.

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          17-Sep-99 17:27:27
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

I tried SmartCache the other day. It worked well but I really like
to be notified of changes to certain pages which it cannot do.
I will put up with WBI's hiccups for now. Anyway, I'm not really
impressed with Java. If WBI didn't require Javascript and pages
that I visit didn't  use it I'd have it off my system in an instant.

Cheers

Wayne


On 16 Sep 1999 17:38:49 GMT, Doug Bissett wrote:

:>On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:27:08, "Wayne Bickell" 
:><wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
:>
:>> I'm using WBI from IBM Alphaworks. It not only caches
:>> better than Netscape but will notify you of any pages that
:>> have been updated. It's also a freebie although it hasn't
:>> been updated for a while.
:>> 
:>
:>I used WBI for a while. I quit using it because it didn't always 
:>recognize that a page had been updated (sometimes for more than one 
:>update cycle). I now use SmartCache , from 
:>http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html
:>
:>It seems to work very well, but does require HPFS, and a later version
:>of JAVA (1.1.7, or better) to work properly. The other advantage to 
:>SmartCache, is that you should be able to use it on any platform (with
:>JAVA, and long file name, support), and with any browser that can be 
:>configured to use a Proxie server. I don't know about using it on 
:>anything, except OS/2, but I do share it among various browsers 
:>(Netscape 2.02, Netscape 4.04, StarOffice 5.1, and HotJava).
:>
:>Hope this helps...
:>******************************
:>From the PC of Doug Bissett
:>doug.bissett at ibm.net
:>The " at " must be changed to "@"
:>******************************

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
******************************************************



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From: jag12@_nospam_le.ac.uk                            17-Sep-99 10:29:19
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: Re: Free internet with OS/2?

From: Dr J A Gow <jag12@_nospam_le.ac.uk>


askbill*AT*ibm.net wrote:

> In <7rs839$mti$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>, on 09/17/99
>    at 02:12 AM, iioannou@u.washington.edu (I. Ioannou) said:
>
> >Hi all,
>
> >I was wondering if there is a way to obtain free internet on OS/2.
> >Anybody knows?

It can be done and is very simple, just find any free ISP. You may have
to sign up using a Lose9x application, but most of the time all the
Lose9x software does is dial into a secure server and present you with
a web page - if you can obtain the phone number, DNS entries and URL
of the secure server (I have these for the UK based Freeserve service
- although this is unlikely to be of any help to you outside of the UK)
you should be able to sign up using OS/2 and never go near Lose at all.
Alternatively find a free ISP with a web-based sign-up process, and
use another connected machine to sign up. You should then be able to
use OS/2 to connect with the service. Note, however that some services
have a buggy PPP server which does not allow correct assignment of
dynamic IP addresses, and the OS/2 PPP client will barf at these -
although these are few and far between in that I have found only one
out of four free ISPs I have tried with OS/2. All the others work
well.

> To the extent that a service provider.....and support Netscape

> navigator as a browser for their pages,  they would not care if

    This generally doesn't matter. - Most free ISPs *claim* only to
support Internet Exploder in that this is what they bundle on the
free signup CD. Basically, for OS/2 use all that is required is
a successful PPP connection and, of course, TCP/IP compliance,
after which the internet can be accessed in all its shapes and
forms.

>
> Their tech support staff, however, would generally not be able to help you
>  with setting up anything but Windows - or possibly LINUX.  If in need,
> get the LINUX settings and work from there, as they will be "information"
> rather than "click the left box".
>

Sadly, this is generally true. However, the worst ones are those that will
refuse to give you any of the required information to set up the
connection, e.g. domain nameserver IP addresses, mail and news server IP
addresses, claiming they are all 'dynamically assigned by the software'
DOIP in OS/2 can handle dynamically assigned local and remote IP addresses
without problem, but you will need the DNS addresses. It is a real pain
(e.g. BT Click (UK)) when the tech support staff point blank refuse to
tell you what they are and you have to go search Internic's database to
find them.

On the other hand, some are very good. I personally use Tesco's free ISP
service and it has been nothing short of excellent with fast connection
speeds at all times. The tech support, although they claim only to support
Winblows and Mac, were quite forthcoming with the information I needed
(DNS and server addresses) when I called them for it.

>
> To give you an idea, a major ISP here used a local answering service as
> their "help desk" to talk customers through the WeenDoze install.  None of
> the staff had PC's - most had never used one.  They just had printed pages
> from the manual.  Did a fair job of it too.

Sounds familiar :)

>
> Of course, any ISP who support only MS Explorer won't be of much use to
> you.
>

    Shouldn't matter if the PPP conection can be established. However I've
just remembered that some free ISP's do use a frigged copy of Exploder which
presents you with banner ads (to help pay for the service, I presume) These
services may not work with other browsers (I have never actually tried to
make them work as I hate banner ads! - but it *may* be possible if a
connection can be established to use another browser).

>
> Good luck with it!
>

I second that. It can be fun, trying to find a good free ISP. I appreciate
some of my examples, being UK based, may not be of any use to you, but
they hopefully serve to illustrate what you may encounter. If you have
any problems setting up DOIP don't hesitate to post to the groups, or
mail me if you have specific queries and I will try to help.


    John.
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From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid                      17-Sep-99 01:41:09
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: Re: tcl/tk for OS/2?

From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid      (John Thompson)

In <wnvzrpbcgbayvararg.fi5gyh0.pminews@news.optonline.net>, "Jaime A. Cruz,
Jr." <Spammers@Bite.Me> writes:

>Just noticed that the AOL Instant Messenger for JAVA has not 
>been maintained or further developed since March of 1998.  The
>web page recommends that users should switch to the tcl/tk
>version as it is "just as portable."
>
>1)  I've never heard of tcl/tk.  

It's "tool command language (or some such)/tool kit" script 
language for building GUI apps.  IIRC, it was developed for X and
Unix and remains quite popular in linux.

>Is it available under OS/2?  

Yes.  Check out hobbes, in the /pub/os2/dev/tcl directory:

tcl76inf.zip 419331 1999/07/29  Manual pages for Tcl7.6/Tk 4.2 
(INF-format)

tk42r2s.zip 554435 1999/07/29  Tcl7.6/Tk 4.2 for OS/2 PM, 2nd
release (source)

tk42r2x.zip      921505 1999/07/29  Tcl7.6/Tk 4.2 for OS/2 PM, 
2nd release (executables)

I haven't tried these under OS/2 so I can't comment on how well
they work.

>2)  Considering Sun's stake in AOL, how could the JAVA version of AOL Instant
>Messenger be allowed to just die??

Me, I've wondered how AOL can have spent all that money on
Netscape and still those CD's they keep sending me say "Featuring
Microsoft Internet Explorer!" all over them and no mention at
all of Netscape.  Gee, I wonder how anybody can think Microsoft 
is a monopoly?

-John (John.Thompson@ibm.net)

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          17-Sep-99 21:15:11
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 20:04:19
Subj: Re: Caching (and a little Netscape)...3 things to add

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:01:29, hamei@pacbell.net a crit dans un message:

> In <asn1umzve4.fsf@sci.fi>, Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> writes:
> >jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) writes:
> > 
> >> 	I just checked out the site, damn, this sounds great!  The source 
> >> is even available, so a plea to Netlabs or some other group to port this 
> >> over to OS/2 (someone else already ported it over to Windows).  
> >
> >Why would a Java app need porting to anything?
> 
> so it could run in less than 40 megabytes of memory perhaps ?

1. Actually, my experience with SCACHE has been that it uses surprisingly 
little RAM, or system resources (according to TOP.)

2. It's nice to read the internals of SCACHE and see that the author is up 
on OS/2, and has built in some code to detect HPFS.

3. And I posted a bit of wrong info earlier in this thread. I said the 
Junkbuster "blocklist" could be used with SCACHE to replace the FAIL.CNF 
file, but I was only partly correct. Partly correct, meaning: a whole lot 
wrong.

The format for FAIL.CNF is much pickier than Junkbusters, and only a few of
the URLs were being recognized. Each line in FAIL.CNF has to begin with 
http:// and follow some other rules, it turns out. (If you watch the SCACHE
command window while your're loading web pages, you'll see "ignored" 
reports giving the URLs in the FAIL.CNF file that it doesn't understand, or
are redundant.)

Sorry for the bogus info. Bog'fo.

Anyway, I've rechiseled the "blocklist" entries into a 600+ URL file that 
is very aggressive. If you mail me with the word "FAIL.CNF" in the Subject 
line, I'll send you what I've got working here. (Or you could even put "Yo,
no mo' bog'fo" on the subject line, since it's Friday.)


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com

[And please remember, if you mail me with a From:@hotmail.com, 
@bigfoot.com, or any of the other freemail services, the odds are very high
that I won't even see your letter.]


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From: jkovacs@ibm.net                                   17-Sep-99 20:23:24
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 20:04:19
Subj: Re: Free internet with OS/2?

From: jkovacs@ibm.net   (Joe Kovacs)

In <7rs839$mti$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu>, iioannou@u.washington.edu (I.
Ioannou) writes:

>I was wondering if there is a way to obtain free internet on OS/2. Anybody
>knows?
>
>Thanks, John
>-- 
>      Ioannis   I    Ioannou                   phone: (206)-543-1372
>      g-2 group, Atomic Physics                fax:   (206)-685-0635
>      Department of Physics           
>      University of Washington        e-mail: iioannou@u.washington.edu

From your sig, I assume you have a university account and are 
asking if there's a free Internet kit with OS/2.

Yes, OS/2 v3 and v4 come with several nice free bonus 
programs. One of them is the very competent Internet Access 
Kit, which will set up a SLIP or PPP connection and is 
complete with tcp/ip, mailer, newsreader, www client and lots
of other goodies.

Otherwise, free accounts are the same as with any OS, having
nothing to do with the OS itself.

Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be                  18-Sep-99 00:16:11
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 21:30:15
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

From: "Luc Van Bogaert" <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be>

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:13:02 -0700, Tim Martin wrote:

>Look for Esther (and her husband) at Warpstock.

Tim,

Why don't you come to Warpstock? You now you've been invited.


Luc Van Bogaert
  I'll be at Warpstock '99... will you ?
    Visit www.warpstock.org to register for the most important OS/2 event of
the year


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From: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnol...               17-Sep-99 22:49:06
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 21:30:15
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

Message sender: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnoldvanovereem@iname.com

From: windows.from.your.harddisk.arnoldvanovereem@iname.com (Arnold van
Overeem)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:13:02, Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:

> There is no reason to release a Warp
> 5 client at this time.  Nothing offered by Microsoft has yet
> to equal the power, stability and quality of the current OS/2
> Warp 4 product.
I agree with your viewpoint on MS-products, but an updated (let's call it Warp
4.3 or so) Warp client, that out of the box installs as something like Warp4 
with FP10 or so, without special procedures,  on all current hardware,  would 
be an appropriate action. They do not have to spend much marketing effort for 
this update.
If they do decide to launch a Warp 5 client in near future (either themselves 
or thru a 3rd party like SD), we can live without a Warp 4.3 client for a few 
more months. 
> 
If I were IBM I would decide which course to take until after Pennfield 
Jackson has spoken.

remove windows from your harddisk to reply
==========================================
Arnold van Overeem
==========================================
Let's make the difference/2

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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               17-Sep-99 16:19:03
  To: All                                               17-Sep-99 21:30:15
Subj: Re: OS/2 V.5

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Luc Van Bogaert wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:13:02 -0700, Tim Martin wrote:
>
> >Look for Esther (and her husband) at Warpstock.
>
> Tim,
>
> Why don't you come to Warpstock? You now you've been invited.
>
> Luc Van Bogaert
>   I'll be at Warpstock '99... will you ?
>     Visit www.warpstock.org to register for the most important OS/2 event of 
the year

I believe the same Warpstock officials who held office
last year continue to do so.  Until that changes and until
Warpstock's direction from a "vendor's paradise" to
a "user's paradise" becomes the full focus, we have
no desire to prompt our membership to pay the fees
to gain entry.  Undoubtedly we will (Warp City) be in
attendance, as we have been at all previous Warpstock
events, but for their personal security we're simply not
making it known who those Warp City staffer(s) will be.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City
http://warpcity.com
"E-ride the wild surf to Warp City!"


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