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From: NewsReader@NerdWorld.org                          04-Sep-99 09:23:19
  To: All                                               04-Sep-99 20:09:00
Subj: Looking for Advice on Prog Environment

From: "Casey Bralla" <NewsReader@NerdWorld.org>

I need advice on getting a programming environment.

I'm a "casual" programmer.  I've been able to master Rexx pretty well, and
have old experience as a BASIC (most recently Turbo-Basic) programmer.  I
don't have the time to really master C or C++.

I've written some OS/2 text applications in Rexx, and would like to be able
to write some OS/2 PM applications also.  Also, since this is really just a
hobby, I don't want to spend $500 on some fancy programming environment.  (My
wife says I spend too much already! <grin>).

I've thought about VX-Rexx, or Watcom, but don't know much about them.  I
figure I might be able to pick up one or the other used, since OS/2 isn't
exactly setting the world on fire anymore.

Anybody got any suggestions?


Casey Bralla
NewsReader@NerdWorld.org


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From: dholmes@trellis.net                               04-Sep-99 15:41:01
  To: All                                               04-Sep-99 20:09:01
Subj: Re: Looking for Advice on Prog Environment

From: Dan Holmes <dholmes@trellis.net>

For a nice RAD environment try sibyl.  http://www.ndrh.de/~speed.

Casey Bralla wrote:
> 
> I need advice on getting a programming environment.
> 
> I'm a "casual" programmer.  I've been able to master Rexx pretty well, and
> have old experience as a BASIC (most recently Turbo-Basic) programmer.  I
> don't have the time to really master C or C++.
> 
> I've written some OS/2 text applications in Rexx, and would like to be able
> to write some OS/2 PM applications also.  Also, since this is really just a
> hobby, I don't want to spend $500 on some fancy programming environment. 
(My
> wife says I spend too much already! <grin>).
> 
> I've thought about VX-Rexx, or Watcom, but don't know much about them.  I
> figure I might be able to pick up one or the other used, since OS/2 isn't
> exactly setting the world on fire anymore.
> 
> Anybody got any suggestions?
> 
> Casey Bralla
> NewsReader@NerdWorld.org

-- 
----------
dan holmes
mailto:dholmes@trellis.net
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hollow/3097

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From: dholmes@trellis.net                               04-Sep-99 15:51:19
  To: All                                               04-Sep-99 20:09:01
Subj: C -> pascal converter

From: Dan Holmes <dholmes@trellis.net>

Does anyone know of a tool to convert C code into pascal?
-- 
----------
dan holmes
mailto:dholmes@trellis.net
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hollow/3097

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          04-Sep-99 21:34:12
  To: All                                               05-Sep-99 04:16:02
Subj: Re: Looking for Advice on Prog Environment

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:23:38, "Casey Bralla" <NewsReader@NerdWorld.org> a 
crit dans un message:

> I need advice on getting a programming environment.
> 
> I'm a "casual" programmer.  I've been able to master Rexx pretty well, and
> have old experience as a BASIC (most recently Turbo-Basic) programmer.  I
> don't have the time to really master C or C++.
> 
> I've written some OS/2 text applications in Rexx, and would like to be able
> to write some OS/2 PM applications also.  Also, since this is really just a
> hobby, I don't want to spend $500 on some fancy programming environment. 
(My
> wife says I spend too much already! <grin>).
> 
> I've thought about VX-Rexx, or Watcom, but don't know much about them.  I
> figure I might be able to pick up one or the other used, since OS/2 isn't
> exactly setting the world on fire anymore.
> 
> Anybody got any suggestions?

Just a nearly equally uninformed one.

I'm in just about the same boat you are, and have just recently decided 
that PERL is the likeliest thing to reward learning about it. PERL is the 
main language for website CGIs, and monster Perlmongers are pulling in some
very big salaries from startup Internet companies, even the hallowed stock 
options.

It is cross-platform almost to a fault (including the MAC), it also is 
free, and open source, and can write multi-threaded PM apps under OS/2, and
make use of your REXX knowledge to access WPS stuff, and it is being 
actively developed on OS/2 only slightly behind the versions that come out 
for the more mainstream platforms.

http://www.perl.org is the starting point. 

and the best rundown of general info about it is in the "Fast Facts" page 
at:

	http://www.perlmongers.org/press/fast_facts.html

Don't be put off if you can't find "OS/2" prominently announced there. Ilya
Zakharevich ports it to OS/2, and when you're ready to install the "latest"
developer environment, the direct link to his binaries is:

	http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Ilya_Zakharevich/os2/

and if that is too confusing (it is) here's the zipfile with an INF 
documentation for the whole thing:

http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/Ilya_Zakharevich/os2/latest/perl_inf.zip



Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  04-Sep-99 19:38:29
  To: All                                               05-Sep-99 04:16:03
Subj: Re: Looking for Advice on Prog Environment

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

You might want to look at GPFRexx.  It is not terribly expensive and
offer pretty good PM support for Rexx.  Visit
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/clerin/gpfframe.htm for more
details.

Casey Bralla wrote:
> 
> I need advice on getting a programming environment.
> 
> I'm a "casual" programmer.  I've been able to master Rexx pretty well, and
> have old experience as a BASIC (most recently Turbo-Basic) programmer.  I
> don't have the time to really master C or C++.
> 
> I've written some OS/2 text applications in Rexx, and would like to be able
> to write some OS/2 PM applications also.  Also, since this is really just a
> hobby, I don't want to spend $500 on some fancy programming environment. 
(My
> wife says I spend too much already! <grin>).
> 
> I've thought about VX-Rexx, or Watcom, but don't know much about them.  I
> figure I might be able to pick up one or the other used, since OS/2 isn't
> exactly setting the world on fire anymore.
> 
> Anybody got any suggestions?
> 
> Casey Bralla
> NewsReader@NerdWorld.org

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: dhdurgee@digizen.ten                              05-Sep-99 07:40:29
  To: All                                               05-Sep-99 12:16:11
Subj: Re: Looking for Advice on Prog Environment

From: dhdurgee@digizen.ten

In <arjfernqreareqjbeyqbet.fhjeje0.pminews@News.NerdWorld.org>, on
09/04/99 at 09:23 AM,
   "Casey Bralla" <NewsReader@NerdWorld.org> said:

>I need advice on getting a programming environment.

>I'm a "casual" programmer.  I've been able to master Rexx pretty well,
>and have old experience as a BASIC (most recently Turbo-Basic)
>programmer.  I don't have the time to really master C or C++.

As you are already familiar with Rexx I would suggest taking a look at
NetRexx, a free package that brings the power of Rexx to the Java
environment.  See <http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx/> for more
information.  With NexRexx you can write Java classes, applets and
servlets in a language developed by Mike Cowlishaw, the creator of Rexx.

-- Dave
-----------------------------------------------------------
dhdurgee<at>digizen<dot>net
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From: peter@pjm2.newcastle.edu.au                       06-Sep-99 10:37:24
  To: All                                               06-Sep-99 10:36:18
Subj: Re: Looking for Advice on Prog Environment

From: peter@pjm2.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)

Casey Bralla <NewsReader@NerdWorld.org> wrote:
>I need advice on getting a programming environment.
>
>I'm a "casual" programmer.  I've been able to master Rexx pretty well, and
>have old experience as a BASIC (most recently Turbo-Basic) programmer.  I
>don't have the time to really master C or C++.

DrDialog is free. I've forgotten exactly where I picked it up, but it
was probably at IBM's Developer Connection website.  If it's not there
it'll be wherever IBM keeps the collection of employee-written software.

After using it for a short while I got sick of the slowness of REXX
programs, but it should be pretty good for someone who prefers to
use REXX.  As a matter of fact I continued using it after I translated
my PM application from REXX to Modula-2; it continues to do a good
job as a resource editor, regardless of preferred language, and it's
not at all bad for rapid prototyping of PM applications for which the
user interface is the biggest part of the job.

-- 
Peter Moylan                         peter@ee.newcastle.edu.au
OS/2 help and software at http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au/os2/

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From: van.enckevort@hccnet.nl                           06-Sep-99 11:36:04
  To: All                                               06-Sep-99 14:34:06
Subj: Re: wxWindows status

From: "D.J. van Enckevort" <van.enckevort@hccnet.nl>

Repost, since I set the followup header wrong, sorry.
>Hello,
>Can anyone tell me what the status of wxWindows for OS/2 is right now? I want
>to use a toolkit for my programs, and I was considering this one because of
>cross platform support.
>Ciao,
>   David
>-- 
>David van Enckevort
>
>homepage: http://huizen.dds.nl/~enckevor
>          http://home.hccnet.nl/van.enckevort
>
>
>

-- 
David van Enckevort

homepage: http://huizen.dds.nl/~enckevor
          http://home.hccnet.nl/van.enckevort



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From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu                          06-Sep-99 21:33:24
  To: All                                               07-Sep-99 05:46:02
Subj: Re: Looking for Advice on Prog Environment

From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Buddy Donnelly
<donnelly@tampabay.rr.com>],
who wrote in article
<Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-ojFulEinqiku@yourmachine.yourlocaldomain.yourisp>:
> It is cross-platform almost to a fault (including the MAC), it also is 
> free, and open source, and can write multi-threaded PM apps under OS/2, and
> make use of your REXX knowledge to access WPS stuff, and it is being 
> actively developed on OS/2 only slightly behind the versions that come out 
> for the more mainstream platforms.

What do you mean?  Some Developers releases may need tweaking for
being compiled - if the build process has been changed recently, and
these changes conflict with ideosyncrasies of EMX build.  Otherwise
there is no delay.

Ilya

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          06-Sep-99 23:31:17
  To: All                                               07-Sep-99 05:46:03
Subj: Re: Looking for Advice on Prog Environment

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:33:49, ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich) a 
crit dans un message:

> [A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Buddy Donnelly
> <donnelly@tampabay.rr.com>],
> who wrote in article
<Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-ojFulEinqiku@yourmachine.yourlocaldomain.yourisp>:
> > It is cross-platform almost to a fault (including the MAC), it also is 
> > free, and open source, and can write multi-threaded PM apps under OS/2,
and
> > make use of your REXX knowledge to access WPS stuff, and it is being 
> > actively developed on OS/2 only slightly behind the versions that come out 

> > for the more mainstream platforms.
> 
> What do you mean?  Some Developers releases may need tweaking for
> being compiled - if the build process has been changed recently, and
> these changes conflict with ideosyncrasies of EMX build.  Otherwise
> there is no delay.
> 
> Ilya

Correction accepted, from the author. I was sloppy in my use of language.



Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: cannon@sonic.net                                  08-Sep-99 22:54:18
  To: All                                               09-Sep-99 12:44:11
Subj: emacs 20.3.1

From: Andrew Cannon <cannon@sonic.net>

I forgot to write down what the init options were to
prevent the gnuserv from loading.  Does anybody
remember how to do it?

note that emacs -? didn't provide any clues.

--
Andy Cannon   http://www.sonic.net/~cannon


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