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From: bbarry@us.ibm.com                                 27-Aug-99 16:57:17
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 03:31:24
Subj: Re: Install problems

From: "Barry Bryan" <bbarry@us.ibm.com>

On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:11:24 -0600, DJR wrote:

:>Trying to install OS/2 Warp 4.0 on my laptop but on reboot the system hangs
:>up. Reboot and use the ALT+F2 keys  and it loads until it comes to
:>c:\mmos2\sb16d2.sys .This is the last entry on screen, just a blinking
:>cursor. What needs to be done to fix this problem. Any help would be greatly
:>appreciated.Thanks.

That's a soundblaster audio driver and it is unlikely the correct one.

Boot the Install diskettes and choose the option for a command line.   TEDIT
c:\config.sys.   REMark out the offending driver.   Save config.sys and
reboot.   


Barry Bryan
Program Manager, Spinning Device Support


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From: Frank@get-lost.spam                               27-Aug-99 23:01:01
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 03:31:24
Subj: Re: Install problems

From: Frank@get-lost.spam (Frank)

On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:11:24, "DJR" <66Olds@email.msn.com> wrote:

> Trying to install OS/2 Warp 4.0 on my laptop but on reboot the system hangs
> up. Reboot and use the ALT+F2 keys  and it loads until it comes to
> c:\mmos2\sb16d2.sys .This is the last entry on screen, just a blinking
> cursor. What needs to be done to fix this problem. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.Thanks.
> 
> --
> 66olds
> 
> 

You can "rem out" the lines about sb16 in your config.sys file.
Boot and when the litle os2 sing appears in the upper left corner, 
press ALT/F1.
This will give you a c:\prompt.
Edit the config.sys and reboot.

Greeetings,


Frank

The box said:"Requires Windows 95/98, NT or better" .......... So I 
too installed OS/2.


Reply per Email to franklyware@-NOSPAM-beer.com

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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                27-Aug-99 22:28:00
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 03:31:25
Subj: Re: Install problems

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:11:24 -0600, DJR wrote:

>Trying to install OS/2 Warp 4.0 on my laptop but on reboot the system hangs
>up. Reboot and use the ALT+F2 keys  and it loads until it comes to
>c:\mmos2\sb16d2.sys .This is the last entry on screen, just a blinking
>cursor. What needs to be done to fix this problem. Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.Thanks.

Edit the config.sys on disk 1 (the second disk, the first being 0), and
remove the device line for that, and any other sb*.sys drivers, if the
laptop doesn't have any soundblaster cards (which I would imagine must be
so).

Also, edit snoop.lst and remove the same names from that file.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: tomlins@cam.org                                   28-Aug-99 03:33:23
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 10:43:12
Subj: a hung system with PEER...

From: tomlins@cam.org

Hi,

I am using W4, FP11, mts8420, peer 8412.  When I try to configure peer using 
tcpbeui the system hangs when setting the IP address.  This happens with both
ipconfig and dhcpcd.  I have included protocol.ini, ibmlan.ini and the section 
 
of the config.sys added by mpts and peerinst.  I have tried everything I can 
think of...  

When the box hangs its solid, no numlock keyboard resp, no trap, no trace,
just
a boat anchor untill reset is pressed.  Works great if TCPBEUI is not in the
picture, NETBEUI alone is ok too.

I really *would* like to be able to share files with the other boxes here.

protocol.ini:

[PROT_MAN]

   DRIVERNAME = PROTMAN$

[IBMLXCFG]

   tcpbeui_nif = tcpbeui.nif
   tcpip_nif = tcpip.nif
   KTC100_nif = KTC100.nif
   DLKFETI_nif = DLKFETI.nif

[NETBIOS]

   DriverName = netbios$
   ADAPTER0 = tcpbeui$,0

[tcpbeui_nif]

   DriverName = tcpbeui$
   Bindings = KTC100_nif
   NODETYPE = "B-Node"
   OS2TRACEMASK = 0x0
   SESSIONS = 130
   NCBS = 225
   NAMES = 21
   SELECTORS = 15
   USEMAXDATAGRAM = "NO"
   NETBIOSTIMEOUT = 500
   NETBIOSRETRIES = 2
   NAMECACHE = 1000
   PRELOADCACHE = "NO"
   NAMESFILE = 0
   DATAGRAMPACKETS = 20
   PACKETS = 50
   INTERFACERATE = 300

[tcpip_nif]

   DriverName = TCPIP$
   Bindings = KTC100_nif,DLKFETI_nif
   IfType = 6,6

[KTC100_nif]

   DriverName = KTC100$
   SIA_Mode = "AUTOSENSE"

[DLKFETI_nif]

   DriverName = DLKFET$


ibmlan.ini: (some comments removed)

; OS/2 Peer initialization file

[networks]

  net1 = tcpbeui$,0,LM10,34,70,14
; This information is read by the redirector at device initialization time.

[requester]

  COMPUTERNAME = OSCAR
  DOMAIN = FAMILY
; The following parameters generally do not need to be
; changed by the user.
  charcount = 16
  chartime = 250
  charwait = 3600
  keepconn = 600
  keepsearch = 600
  maxcmds = 16
  maxerrorlog = 100
  maxthreads = 10
  maxwrkcache = 64
  numalerts = 12
  numcharbuf = 10
  numservices = 7
  numworkbuf = 15
  numdgrambuf = 14
  othdomains = 
  printbuftime = 90
  sesstimeout = 45
  sizcharbuf = 512
  sizerror = 1024
  sizworkbuf = 4096
  useallmem = no
; The wrkheuristics parameter sets a variety of requester fine-tuning
; options.  Brief descriptions are provided here for each digit.  More
; complete descriptions, along with explanations of relationships between
; digits can be found in the OS/2 Peer Technical Reference.
;
; The next lines help you to locate bits in the wrkheuristics entry.
;                           1         2         3         4
;                 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901
  wrkheuristics = 111111112131111111000101112011122100121110
  wrkservices = MESSENGER,PEER
  wrknets = NET1

[messenger]

  logfile = messages.log
  sizmessbuf = 4096

[peer]

  auditing = resource
; The following parameters generally do not need to be
; changed by the user. NOTE : srvnets= is represented in
; the server info struct as a 16-bit lan mask. Srvnet names
; are converted to indexes within [networks] for the named nets.
  guestacct = guest
  autodisconnect = -1
  forwardauth = no
  maxauditlog = 100
  maxchdevjob = 6
  maxchdevq = 2
  maxchdevs = 2
  maxconnections = 128
  maxlocks = 64
  maxopens = 160
  maxsearches = 150
  maxsessopens = 120
  maxsessreqs = 25
  maxsessvcs = 1
  maxshares = 64
  maxusers = 32
  numbigbuf = 6
  numfiletasks = 1
  numreqbuf = 48
  sizreqbuf = 4096
  srvanndelta = 3000
  srvannounce = 180
  srvcomment = Ed
  srvhidden = no
; The srvheuristics parameter sets a variety of server fine-tuning
; options.  Brief descriptions are provided here for each digit.  More
; complete descriptions, along with explanations of relationships between
; digits can be found in the OS/2 Peer Technical Reference.
;
; The next lines help you to locate bits in the srvheuristics entry.
;                           1         2
;                 012345678901234567890
  srvheuristics = 111101411113110013311
  SRVSERVICES = 
  srvnets = NET1

[replicator]

  replicate = IMPORT
  importpath = D:\ibmlan\repl\import
  tryuser = yes
  password = 

[services]

; Correlates name of service to pathname of service program.
; The pathname must be either
;       1) an absolute path (including the drive specification)
;                       OR
;       2) a path relative to the IBMLAN root
  messenger = services\msrvinit.exe
  peer = services\peerinit.exe
  replicator = services\replicat.exe
  requester = services\wksta.exe

config.sys:

LIBPATH=D:\MUGLIB\DLL;E:\apps\comm\PROGRAM;.;D:\IBMLAN\NETLIB;D:\OS2\DLL;D:\MPT
N\DLL;D:\ibmcom\DLL;D:\IBMI18N\DLL;D:\OS2\MDOS;D:\;D:\OS2\APPS\DLL;D:\JAVA11\DL
L;D:\MMOS2\DLL;D:\IBMINST;D:\NSC\DLL;D:\TCPIP\DLL;D:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2;D:\TCPIP\UMA
IL;E:\BONUSPAK\IBMWORKS;E:\EMX\DLL;E:\XFREE86\LIB;D:\OS2\FS\EXT2;E:\DIALS;
SET
PATH=D:\MPTN\BIN;D:\ibmcom;E:\apps\comm\PROGRAM;D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG;D:\MUGLIB;D:\
OS2;D:\OS2\SYSTEM;D:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;D:\OS2\INSTALL;D:\;D:\OS2\MDOS;D:\OS2\APPS
;D:\MMOS2;.\.;E:\TINYED;E:\UTILS\FM2;E:\UTILS\ZIP;D:\NSC;D:\TCPIP\BIN;D:\TCPIP\
PCOMOS2;D:\TCPIP\UMAIL;E:\BONUSPAK\IBMWORKS;D:\SIO;E:\EMX\BIN;E:\EMX\LESS;E:\XF
REE86\BIN;D:\OS2\FS\EXT2;E:\UTILS\GO;E:\DIALS;D:\Java11\rmi-iiop\bin;D:\JAVA11\
BIN;
..
CALL=D:\ibmcom\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE
RUN=D:\ibmcom\LANMSGEX.EXE
SET NLSPATH=D:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;
SET ETC=D:\MPTN\ETC
DEVICE=D:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS
DEVICE=D:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS
DEVICE=D:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS
DEVICE=D:\MPTN\BIN\VDOSTCP.VDD
RUN=D:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE
CALL=D:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C D:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL
RUN=D:\ibmcom\PROTOCOL\NBTCP.EXE
RUN=D:\MPTN\BIN\VDOSCTL.EXE
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\TCPBEUI.OS2
DEVICE=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\RDRHELP.200
IFS=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\NETWKSTA.200 /I:D:\IBMLAN /N
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIOS.OS2
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\MACS\KTC100.OS2
DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\MACS\DLKFET.OS2
RUN=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\LSDAEMON.EXE
SET DLSINI=D:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\NETGUI.INI
SET INIT_FILE_NAMES=netgui
SET INIT_FILE_RANGES=200
SET WPS_COMMUNICATION=YES
SET LANINSTEP=

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              28-Aug-99 13:37:21
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 14:21:24
Subj: NS 4.61 Beta 2: STILL No Cookie Security

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <37B90E39.5421AA5F@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Alan Boritz wrote:
>
>> Cookies are still broken in this browser.  IBM is apparently NOT following
>> Netscape's specifications, and ANY server can retrieve cookies stored on
our
>> systems.  There's a great demonstration of the Cookie Monster exploit at
>> http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~glineham/cookiemonster.html.
>
>(1) Of course we follow Netscape's specifications; we're using their code!
>
>(2) That page says right on it that Netscape has this bug, too.

Wrong.

>(3) If it's not important enough for Netscape to fix, why should we worry 
about
>it?

Netscape apparently fixed it back in March, according to this tech support
note
at http://help.netscape.com/kb/client/981231-1.html:

Cookie Monster Bug

          Issue: 981231-1Product: Communicator, Navigator
                                  Gold, Navigator
                                  International, Navigator,
                                  CGI Programming
        Created: 12/31/98Version: All
            Last 03/16/99     OS: All
        Updated:

Topic:

The Cookie Monster bug affects all existing versions of Netscape
Navigator (2.x through 4.x) on all platforms up until 4.51 when
it was fixed. Although Netscape has verified this bug, no
customer incidents of lost or stolen data have been reported to
Netscape.

Discussion:

The bug allows a malicious or poorly written server application
in certain Internet domains to set a cookie on the browser at a
higher domain than should be allowed. For example, x.y.co.nz can
set a cookie in the domain co.nz. This results in that cookie
being sent to any server in the co.nz domain that the browser
connects to in the future. Note that this problem does not apply
to browsers accessing servers in the COM, NET, GOV, MIL, ORG, EDU
or INT Internet domains.

The three potential problems associated with this bug (1) loss of
private data, 2) unnecessary use of bandwidth, and 3) conflict
with other cookies) can be avoided by correct coding of a
server's use of cookies. There is no way for a malicious server
to gain access to any private information stored in a browser's
cookies if the originating server has set the cookies correctly.
To resolve this bug on the browser side, Netscape will be
implementing the cookie rejection rules as proposed in section
4.3.2 of the RFC 2109.

However, if a malicious server has set many large cookies to a
high level domain such as co.nz, it could slow down your browser.
If you suspect this has happened, you can disable cookies in your
browser to see if that improves the performance. To do this in
Communicator 4.5:

  1. In Communicator, go to the Edit menu and select Preferences.
  2. In the Preferences dialog box, select the Advanced category.
  3. Select Disable Cookies.
  4. Click OK.

To avoid this problem entirely, you may decide you want to enable
cookies but be given a warning when a site is setting one so that
you can decide if you want to allow this server to set this
cookie. To do this in Communicator 4.5:

  1. In Communicator, go to the Edit menu and select Preferences.
  2. In the Preferences dialog box, select the Advanced category.
  3. Select "Warn me before accepting a cookie".
  4. Click OK.

If you suspect your browser has been slowed by a malicious server
exploiting this bug but you want to continue using cookies, you
can exit Communicator and edit your cookies files (typically
named cookies.txt) and remove any suspect cookies, or delete your
cookies file entirely.

For more information regarding the Cookie Monster bug, see
http://www.paradise.net.nz/~glineham/cookiemonster.html.

For more information regarding cookies, see the Cookie FAQ at
http://home.netscape.com/products/security/resources/faq/cookies.html.

For more information regarding RFC 2109 and the cookie mechanism
it describes, see
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc2109.html.
--

>Here, have a cookie and some milk.  Relax.  Breathe deeply.

Netscape says they fixed it.  MSIE 5.0 doesn't have this security problem.
Stop
making excuses and fix the damn thing already.

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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           28-Aug-99 11:30:21
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 16:46:26
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta 2: STILL No Cookie Security

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Since you apparently didn't see my reply in comp.os.os2.beta, I'll
re-post my response here...


Alan Boritz wrote:

> >(2) That page says right on it that Netscape has this bug, too.
>
> Wrong.

"Wrong"?  What do you mean "Wrong"???  Here is a direct quote from that
page ( http://www.paradise.net.nz/~glineham/cookiemonster.html ):

"Netscape claims on their bug report page (see below) that this bug has been
fixed since Navigator 4.51.  This is untrue.  The bug has not been fixed, and
there is no intention by Netscape/Mozilla ever to fix this problem."

That line appears right at the top of the page, so I don't see how you could
have missed it.  Further down, in the list of "Vulnerable applications", they
list Netscape 4.61 "and all future [versions]".

> Netscape apparently fixed it back in March, according to this tech support
> note at http://help.netscape.com/kb/client/981231-1.html:

Again, read above until it sinks in.  The "bug report page" to which they
refer is the exact page you're talking about.  Apparently, the fix in March
didn't solve the problem, at least not according to the Cookie Monster
page you've been touting.

In fact, we've been told by our sources at Netscape that they have no
plans to fix this problem for their Communicator 4.7 release either.

> Netscape says they fixed it.

Apparently, they didn't.  At least not completely.  Whatever fix they
did make for 4.51, we already have by default.

> Stop making excuses and fix the damn thing already.

No.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: sprins@businessnet.net                            28-Aug-99 19:10:01
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 16:46:26
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta 2: STILL No Cookie Security

From: Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>


Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

> In fact, we've been told by our sources at Netscape that they have no
> plans to fix this problem for their Communicator 4.7 release either.

Do you have any clue why they won't fix this? Will this break too many
existing
'applications' (i.e. websites that use this) or do they just don't think it
isn't
important enough?

Sacha


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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              28-Aug-99 13:42:03
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 21:13:09
Subj: Re: Communicator/2 4.61: No Cookie Security (Again)

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <Z8vLRdP7nz3N-pn2-8f1vgxpQVdku@dt142n6c.tampabay.rr.com>,
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote:
>> In article <3790AFD3.1E0D1EF4@us.ibm.com>, Timothy Sipples
<tsipple@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>snipt
>> >Please be sure to send this to the Netscape team through the feedback
option on
>> >the Netscape 4.6.1 for OS/2 Warp download page.  That puts it on record as
>> >something to look at.
>
>Or, the Netscape team here can just create a new folder on their desktop 
>(OS/2 Desktop, I'm assuming) and name it "Something To Look At", perhaps.
>
>Then just drag off articles containing reports like that, or any pertinent 
>items, directly to the folder.

Well no, actually, they can't, since they're usually not running the OS/2
version of Netscape when they post here.

Jeffrey Kobal is running an old Netscape browser under Windows 98:

>From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I)
>X-Accept-Language: en
>MIME-Version: 1.0

And Michael Kaply is running an even older Netscape browser under Windows 95:

>From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@us.ibm.com>
>Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.beta
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U)
>Mime-Version: 1.0

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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              28-Aug-99 17:44:01
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 10:42:25
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta 2: STILL No Cookie Security

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <37C80EB2.5C5D2BDB@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>, "Jeffrey S. Kobal"
<jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:
>Since you apparently didn't see my reply in comp.os.os2.beta, I'll
>re-post my response here...
>
>
>Alan Boritz wrote:
>
>> >(2) That page says right on it that Netscape has this bug, too.
>>
>> Wrong.
>
>"Wrong"?  What do you mean "Wrong"???

As in "not right."  "Incorrect."  "Sadly mistaken."

>Here is a direct quote from that
>page ( http://www.paradise.net.nz/~glineham/cookiemonster.html ):

I didn't ask you what was on THAT page.  Netscape's corporate position is that
it's fixed.  Who at NETSCAPE says they never did?

>That line appears right at the top of the page, so I don't see how you could
>have missed it.

I am currently only addressing Netscape's CORPORATE statements on the status
of
the security bug fix.

>> Netscape apparently fixed it back in March, according to this tech support
>> note at http://help.netscape.com/kb/client/981231-1.html:
>
>Again, read above until it sinks in.

Maybe you should go back and read mine again.  Let THAT sink in, first.  I'm
currently only addressing the issues stated at Netscape's CORPORATE web site.

>The "bug report page" to which they
>refer is the exact page you're talking about.  Apparently, the fix in March
>didn't solve the problem, at least not according to the Cookie Monster
>page you've been touting.
>
>In fact, we've been told by our sources at Netscape that they have no
>plans to fix this problem for their Communicator 4.7 release either.

Then tell us who the source is.  Netscape's corporate web site, and their
statements to the media, are that they fixed the security problem.  If IBM is
now contradicting Netscape's public statements on the integrity of the
Netscape browser, then either Netscape or IBM needs to make a change.

Who at Netscape now contradicts what they've told EVERYONE about solving the
security problem?

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From: phillipd@antares.cloudnet.com                     28-Aug-99 23:53:00
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 10:42:25
Subj: Re: More modem troubles...

From: Phillip Davenport <phillipd@antares.cloudnet.com>

Marcus, Aviva and Rhiannon <us@appo.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Dumped my unknown 28800 modem and bought a Diamond SupraExpress V90i.
> More problems...

>   Detected Hardware Function: PCI Device 07-00-00 

>   PCI Device ID: 127A1002

>   IRQ Level =  9  PCI Pin = A     Flg = SHARED       

>   Memory Base = 0XE4000000  Size = 00010000  Flg =  EXCLUSIVE   

This is a winmodem.

> I really don't believe that a serial port needs 0xe4000000 to 0xe400ffff
> in the memory to work!. I guess it is not set up right when OS/2 boots,
> which leaves two problems...

This hardware doesn't have a serial port.

> 1) What does windows do that OS/2 doesn't?

The hardware requires an OS specific driver to provide the modem 'innards'

> 2) How do I get OS/2 to do it.

It doesn't.

  p

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     29-Aug-99 03:15:08
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:07
Subj: Re: Communicator/2 4.61: No Cookie Security (Again)

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Alan Boritz wrote:

> Well no, actually, they can't, since they're usually not running the OS/2
> version of Netscape when they post here.
>
> Jeffrey Kobal is running an old Netscape browser under Windows 98:

That's true, when I'm posting from home, like now.  When I'm
posting from work, I'm using the OS/2 browser.  How many
times must we go over this?  Oh, now I remember... the answer
to that is "again and again and again", since you never listen,
and usually choose to ignore any post that refutes your misguided
statements.  I posted two other messages earlier today, both
from my OS/2 browser, but you chose to ignore that fact as well.

Jeffrey S. Kobal


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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     29-Aug-99 03:40:02
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:07
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta 2: STILL No Cookie Security

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Alan Boritz wrote:

> >
> >> >(2) That page says right on it that Netscape has this bug, too.
> >>
> >> Wrong.
> >
> >"Wrong"?  What do you mean "Wrong"???
>
> As in "not right."  "Incorrect."  "Sadly mistaken."

My statement was that the page says that Netscape still has this
bug.  You said I'm wrong.  If you read the page (you CAN read,
can't you?) you will see that I'm not wrong.  As in "right."
"Correct."  "Happily accurate."  I challenge you to show that
anything I've stated on this "cookie monster" subject is untrue.

Here is the URL again, since you've conveniently forgotten that
you yourself posted the link to this page, and Netscape's almost
6-month-old statement points to it (indirectly) as well:

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~glineham/cookiemonster.html

> I didn't ask you what was on THAT page.  Netscape's corporate position is
that
> it's fixed.  Who at NETSCAPE says they never did?

I can't find any public statement that says they never did.  I
only know what I've been told, plus the fact that I just went
through the "demonstration" of the bug using Netscape 4.51
for Windows (in which they originally said the bug was fixed)
and the test fails on my machine; therefore it was not fixed.
What more evidence do you need?

> Then tell us who the source is.  Netscape's corporate web site, and their
> statements to the media, are that they fixed the security problem.  If IBM
is
> now contradicting Netscape's public statements on the integrity of the
> Netscape browser, then either Netscape or IBM needs to make a change.

The only source that matters right now is the Netscape product
itself.  I've just verified that the Windows 4.51 version of the
browser fails the cookie monster test; therefore, the "security
problem" was not fixed.  I don't speak for Netscape, nor do I
speak for IBM; neither company, as far as I've seen, has made
any public statements about this anytime recently.  I'm only
relating the information that I have.

> Who at Netscape now contradicts what they've told EVERYONE about solving the
> security problem?

The software itself.  I have no names to give you, since I am
not in contact with any Netscape employees directly.  I get my
information by word of mouth "through the grapevine".  None
of those sources would be "official" anyway, since it is just an
exchange of information between cooperating developers.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
(An employee of, but not speaking as a representative of)
IBM Corporation


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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                29-Aug-99 04:37:09
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:07
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <37C64ECA.1755AFFC@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>
writes:
>Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
>
>> In <37C599EB.87A3C267@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins
<sprins@businessnet.net> writes:
>>
>>    AFAIK, the 86xx MPTS is really buggy, get an 8423 or 8424.
>
>How does 842x stack up against 86xx in performance? I'm afraid I need the 32
bit
>performance for the stuff I'm doing.
>
>Sacha

   AFAIK, 8423 and 8424 are 32 bit stacks.  I just looked on my
one computer with 8424, and it is definitely a 32 bit stack, and
the syslevel states that the previous version was a 8421, which
I believe also was a 32 bit stack, as I went 32 bit in spring
1998, with the previous January MPTS (8421?), and it
significantly improved the TCP/IP performance.

baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   28-Aug-99 22:47:20
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:07
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>


Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
> 
> In <37C64ECA.1755AFFC@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net> 
writes:
> >Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
> >
> >> In <37C599EB.87A3C267@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins
<sprins@businessnet.net> writes:
> >>
> >>    AFAIK, the 86xx MPTS is really buggy, get an 8423 or 8424.
> >
> >How does 842x stack up against 86xx in performance? I'm afraid I need the
32 bit
> >performance for the stuff I'm doing.
> >
> >Sacha
> 
>    AFAIK, 8423 and 8424 are 32 bit stacks.  I just looked on my
> one computer with 8424, and it is definitely a 32 bit stack, and
> the syslevel states that the previous version was a 8421, which
> I believe also was a 32 bit stack, as I went 32 bit in spring
> 1998, with the previous January MPTS (8421?), and it
> significantly improved the TCP/IP performance.
> 
> baden
> 
> baden@unixg.ubc.ca
> http://baden.nu/
> OS/2, Solaris & Linux

I did not know that 8421+ were 32 bit. Are you sure?
Is this upgrade hell or what? I don't even know what level of MPTS I am
at now.
Does anyone have a stable MPTS 86xx install?? How?

-- 

**********************
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http://www.dgraph.com
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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                29-Aug-99 05:16:28
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:08
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <37C8BB6C.3CFC2787@dgraph.com>, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> writes:
>
>
>Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
>> 
>> In <37C64ECA.1755AFFC@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins
<sprins@businessnet.net> writes:
>> >Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
>> >
>> >> In <37C599EB.87A3C267@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins
<sprins@businessnet.net> writes:
>> >>
>> >>    AFAIK, the 86xx MPTS is really buggy, get an 8423 or 8424.
>> >
>> >How does 842x stack up against 86xx in performance? I'm afraid I need the
32 bit
>> >performance for the stuff I'm doing.
>> >
>> >Sacha
>> 
>>    AFAIK, 8423 and 8424 are 32 bit stacks.  I just looked on my
>> one computer with 8424, and it is definitely a 32 bit stack, and
>> the syslevel states that the previous version was a 8421, which
>> I believe also was a 32 bit stack, as I went 32 bit in spring
>> 1998, with the previous January MPTS (8421?), and it
>> significantly improved the TCP/IP performance.
>> 
>> baden
>> 
>> baden@unixg.ubc.ca
>> http://baden.nu/
>> OS/2, Solaris & Linux
>
>I did not know that 8421+ were 32 bit. Are you sure?

   Definitely!  My IPSpeed has two versions, 16 bit and 32 bit,
so I can test it with that.

>Is this upgrade hell or what? I don't even know what level of MPTS I am
>at now.

   No, I  downloaded the images from:
ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us

   I have included the two readme's below.  I used SVD to put
all the images in one directory, and I installed MPTS from that.
It looks like the 8424 package uses the Corrective Service Tool.

To find out your MPTS version, type "syslevel" at a command 
prompt.

>Does anyone have a stable MPTS 86xx install?? How?

   My friend who supports large OS/2 LANs and WANs, told me to
stay away from the 86xx stacks as they are way too buggy.

baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux


IBM MPTS LAN Adapter and Protocol Support FixPak WR08424 : English - US


  *******************************************************************
  *                                                                 *
  * This package is not a cumulative FixPak or a product refresh.   *
  *                                                                 *
  * It requires that you have either WR08421 or WR08423 installed.  *
  *                                                                 *
  * You must use SERVICE or FSERVICE, not MPTS.EXE, to install this *
  * package.                                                        *
  *******************************************************************

WR08424.INF, located on the first FixPak diskette, contains
installation, and other useful information about this FixPak.
Please review before installation of service.


WARNING : This FixPak is installed using Corrective Service
          Facility (CSF) 2-B Version 1.39. Once you use this
          version of the FixTool you will not be able to use
          previous versions of the FixTool.


*******************************************************
 Diskettes can be created using the LOADDSKF utility.
 There are 3 files/images included in this package.
*******************************************************
     FIXT139  DSK   FixPak Tool (CSF) V 1.39
     W08424B1 DSK   MPTS DISKETTE #1
     W08824B2 DSK   MPTS DISKETTE #2



 IBM MPTS LAN Adapter and Protocol Support FixPak WR08421 : U.S.-English


 This FixPak is a refresh of the MPTS LAN Adapter and Protocol Support
 program and is intended to replace (upgrade) only LICENSED instances
 of MPTS.


 This FixPak supersedes WR08419, and adds the following APAR fix :


 IC17544 : USING TCPBEUI, CONNECTION BEING DROPPED DURING FILE TRANSFER
 (NET  OP MOVE FAILS)


 This version of MPTS is installed using the MPTS Program Product
 Installation Aid, MPTS.EXE. There is NO selective install of MPTS
 sub-components. All components of MPTS are installed, including all
 of the MAC drivers. Please refer to the MPTS Configuration Guide on
 Diskette 6 for complete Installation and Configuration details.


************************************************************************
 Diskettes can be created using the LOADDSKF utility.
 There are 6 files/images included in this package.
************************************************************************
     W08421B1 DSK MPTS DISKETTE #1  3.50 1.44MB
     W08421B2 DSK MPTS DISKETTE #2  3.50 1.44MB
     W08421B3 DSK MPTS DISKETTE #3  3.50 1.44MB
     W08421B4 DSK MPTS DISKETTE #4  3.50 1.44MB
     W08421B5 DSK MPTS DISKETTE #5  3.50 1.44MB
     W08421B6 DSK MPTS DISKETTE #6  3.50 1.44MB


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    29-Aug-99 06:34:27
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:08
Subj: Re: Install problems

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.fh5lio0.pminews@netnews.worldn
et.att.net>,
  "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:11:24 -0600, DJR wrote:
        <<<snip other posts as well>>>
> >c:\mmos2\sb16d2.sys
        <<<snip>>>

Everybody else is telling you how to disable sound
support.  This is what I have on my system:

Directory of F:\MMOS2

 8-28-96  5:57a        64,424      0 a---  SB16D2.SYS
        1 file(s)        64,424 bytes used

Based on the file date, this is the driver off the
install CD.  I'm up to FP11 so this driver has never
been maintained.

And my CONFIG.SYS has this:

DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\SB16D2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:5 /A:220
                         /M:330 /B:8 /N:SBAUD1$ /V /P
DEVICE=F:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$

(That's 2 lines.  Deja News won't let me show the
first line without a line break.)

I don't remember what all the switches mean but I'm
sure they're documented somewhere.  I wouldn't have a
line like that in my CONFIG.SYS unless something I
read told me to do it.  And it works for me with an
old ISA SB16 card.  Mind you, I'm not running this on
a laptop so I can't say this will definitely work for
you.  But hey, what have you got to lose?

WW
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From: wwilly@one.net                                    29-Aug-99 07:09:15
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:08
Subj: Re: a hung system with PEER...

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <c1.2c.2RzS2s$09y@TOMLINS.HIP.CAM.ORG>,
  tomlins@cam.org wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using W4, FP11, mts8420,

You mean MPTS at WR08620, right?

> peer 8412.  When I try to configure peer using
> tcpbeui the system hangs when setting the IP
address.  This happens with both
> ipconfig and dhcpcd.  I have included protocol.ini,
ibmlan.ini and the section
> of the config.sys added by mpts and peerinst.  I
have tried everything I can
> think of...
        <<<snip>>>

I'm at the same software levels.

Your PROTOCOL.INI & IBMLAN.INI will of course change
once you bind the other protocol to your adapter.
Other than that, there is & has always been a bug in
the way the install utilities configure NETBIOS,
NETBEUI, & TCPBEUI.  Here's the relevant section from
my CONFIG.SYS.  The order of these statements is
DIFFERENT from what the install utilities like to
set.  And I recall having to undo their damage
repeatedly during installation.  I learned these
corrections under WARP Connect at a rather early
stage of its life & I have posted about this bug
REPEATEDLY over the past 3 or 4 years.  Nobody has
ever acknowledged the bug or corrected it.  Sort of
like how I'm being ignored by IBM over the problems I
am having getting Peer uninstalled & reinstalled so I
can undo the damage IP08412 did to my office system.

CALL=F:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE
RUN=F:\IBMCOM\LANMSGEX.EXE
SET
  NLSPATH=F:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;f:\tcpip\msg\enus850\%N;
SET ETC=F:\MPTN\ETC
DEVICE=F:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS /V
DEVICE=F:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS
DEVICE=F:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS
DEVICE=F:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFNB.SYS /S:130 /C:225 /N:21
RUN=F:\MPTN\BIN\AFNBINI.EXE
RUN=F:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE
CALL=F:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C F:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD
RUN=F:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NBTCP.EXE
DEVICE=F:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBEUI.OS2
DEVICE=F:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\TCPBEUI.OS2
DEVICE=F:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIOS.OS2
DEVICE=F:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\RDRHELP.200
IFS=F:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\NETWKSTA.200 /I:F:\IBMLAN /N
DEVICE=F:\IBMCOM\MACS\NULLNDIS.OS2

This is off my home system where I do dial-up Peer
sharing to our office network.  At the office, I have
the exact same thing except of course I have a real
NIC driver instead of NULLNDIS.OS2.

I don't quite recall now which line needed to be
moved.  I think it was NETBIOS.OS2.  When it wasn't
where you see above, you don't get the allocation of
names, sessions, & NCBs shown by the switches on the
AFNB.SYS driver.  The proof is in IBMCOM\LANTRAN.LOG.

I also recommend taking the stuff about >NUL off the
RUN MPTSTART.CMD line so you can see the messages
it's putting out.  Also, remove the ECHO OFF lines
from SETUP.CMD & NBSETUP.CMD.  You have to keep doing
these things because the install utilities keep
putting them back on.

Also, take the NET START REQ command out of your
STARTUP.CMD & execute it from a Program Reference
Object to a command or REXX script from your Startup
folder.

Also, make sure you open a DOS windowed command
session before you do your LAN LOGON.  Just put a
Program Command Reference in your Startup folder
pointing to a .BAT file whose content is the one line
EXIT.  Make sure this executes BEFORE you get to your
LOGON.  I think this is actually what's causing your
lockup.  I have seen precisely this problem & this is
the cure. as I posted here more than a year ago when
I discovered it.

System initialization is very timing dependent.  I
recommend you use REXX scripts from your Startup
folder & the judicious use of Call SysSleep to get
some things to run in sequence instead of all trying
to compete for resources.  Never mind trying to get
things to work like they should.  Just get them to
work.  I agree there's a bug in here somewhere.  But
do you want to gripe at IBM (as I've done here to no
avail about Peer for FOUR YEARS) or do you want it to
work?

I must say that Peer is the weakest part of OS/2.
The most frequent cause of hangs & stalls on my
systems is impatience while some Peer operation is in
progress.  Everything about Peer takes time.  It
seems like it likes to lock the system while timeouts
expire, and if you get happy fingers & try to
Ctrl+Esc thinking the system is locked up, you WILL
lock it up, whereas a little patience usually lets
things complete & run fine after.  Usually.  Not
always.  Peer is still quite capable of locking the
system to the point where Watchcat is the only way
out.  And sometimes, only pressing the RESET button
will get you going.  To be fair, each successive Peer
Fix Pack has lessened this propensity to lock the
system.  But there's still the occasional problem....

WW
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From: wwilly@one.net                                    29-Aug-99 07:40:09
  To: jkobal@us.ibm.com                                 29-Aug-99 15:49:08
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta 2: STILL No Cookie Security

To: Jeffrey Kobal <jkobal@us.ibm.com>
From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37C81A43.8EF599D7@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>,
  "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:
 <<<major snippage of mostly pointless discussion>>>

Jeff, when you get tired of this discussion about a
BETA product, a discussion that is so clearly going
nowhere, please switch over to the thread about the
GENERAL AVAILABILITY product Communicator 4.04 with
Fix Pack XR_1404.  I'm having some problems with the
OFFICIALLY RELEASED product, not the beta.  Perhaps
you can cure the problem I'm seeing & get the
solution into the GA release of 4.61.  I'd like some
help over here............

WW
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From: rpeterse@ix.netcom.com                            29-Aug-99 00:53:02
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:08
Subj: Re: PCMCIA on Dell Latitude CPi D233ST - OS/2 Warp 4 P&P-NOT!!!

From: Randy Petersen <rpeterse@ix.netcom.com>

In <Hi4x3.146738$U42.415183@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>, on 08/26/99
   at 05:31 AM, baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky) said:

>In <37c36028$1$ecrgrefr$mr2ice@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, Randy Petersen
<rpeterse@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>   Maybe this won't directly help, but I got a Xircom PS-CE2-10
>network card, and USR Sportster 28.8 modem working after
>screwing around a lot, and finding the answer at some other
>site, which I can't recall now.

>   The answer lay in the CONFIG.SYS, and my relevant lines read:

>BASEDEV=PCMCIA.SYS
>BASEDEV=IBM2MAT1.SYS /C0=15 /IG0=2
>DEVICE=D:\OS2\BOOT\AUTODRV2.SYS D:\OS2\AUTODRV2.INI
>DEVICE=D:\IBMCOM\MACS\XPSNDIS.OS2

>   The /IG0=2 switch was the key to disable PCMCIA auto
>detection.

Thanks, but that does nothing but tell the socket services driver to ignore 
my Ethernet card.  The /C0=15 tells the socket services driver to communicate 
status change to the card services driver using IRQ15 - the newer drivers out 
now (PC Card Director & PlayAtWill) don't use an IRQ so that would be ignored.

>>The GOOD news and the BAD news...
>>
>>OS/2 Warp 4 works great on my Dell Latitude CPi-D233ST laptop
>>   Sound is fine.
>>   Video is fine
>>   >4GB Hard drive is fine.
>>Exception to the rule is that
>>   PCMCIA (TI1131 CardBus PCMCIA chipset) DOES NOT WORK.
>>
>>
>>I've had it with PLAYING around with OS/2 Warp 4 PCMCIA Plug & Pray.
>>I've wasted a week so far and refuse to waste any more of my time 
>>alpha-testing.
>>
>>
>>PLEASE - If anyone has any of the following PCMCIA cards working under 
>>         Warp 4 on a Dell Latitude CPi-D233ST laptop, tell me how. 
>>         I don't have time right now to play around, so I'd appreciate 
>>         hearing only from those that have it working.  If nobody does, 
>>         then maybe it's time we petitioned IBM to get it working.
>>
>>
>>PCMCIA CARDS:
>>   1) Linksys Combo (not really) PCMCIA Ethernet Card (Model: EC2T)
>>   2) 3Com Megahertz 56K Global Modem PC Card (Model: 3CCM156)
>>   3) Adaptec SlimSCSI APA-1460A (Part#:997400)
>>
>>
>>NOTES: 
>>   a) Of course, these all work just fine under Microcrash '95.
>>   b) No, I cannot use another laptop, this is my employer's.
>>
>>
>>Here are the drivers and the relevant hex-dump of each I've used.
>>Please don't waste my time by asking me to try one of these again.
>>
>>
>>          SS2PCIC2.SYS   19,543 .a..    7-17-1998 20:12:30
>>Comments: Locks hard on bootup load
>>HEX-DUMP:-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>000003C0  zzIBM OS/2 PCMCIA Socket Services Device Driver, Version 1.36zzP
>>00000400  CMCIA Socket Services Release 2.1zzCopyright 1993,1995 IBM Corp.
>>00000440  zzAll rights reserved.zzzIBM Socket Service for Intel 82365SL co
>>00000480  mpatible: Internal Revision 0.36.36zzzzz6zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>__________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>          ibm2ss14.sys   16,167 .a..    9-28-1998  2:07:00
>>Comments: Loads but doesn't show cards inserted/removed
>>HEX-DUMP:-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>00000340  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzIBM OS/2 Socket Services Device Dr
>>00000380  iver, Version 2.07zzPC Card standardzzCopyright 1998 IBM Corp.zz
>>000003C0  All rights reserved.zzzIBM Socket Service for ThinkPad Series (P
>>__________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>          ibm2ss14.sys   29,069 .a..    1-06-1999 10:57:36
>>Comments: Loads and show cards inserted/removed but doesn't work.
>>HEX-DUMP:-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>000000C0  zzzzazzzzzm4@zn4'zzzPzzzzIBM2SS14zzzzzzz?z"zzz?zzzzz3@#IBM:10.01
>>00000100  1#@ PCCard IBM2SS14 Chip Driver for OS/2zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000140  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000180  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>000001C0  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000200  zzzzzzzzzzICSS014$zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzPCMCIA$ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000240  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzJzyzzzzzzzzzbzzzzz:z2zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000280  zzzzzzzzzz;zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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>>00000300  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000340  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzIBM OS/2 Socket Services Device Dr
>>00000380  iver, Version 3.00zzPC Card standardzzCopyright 1998 IBM Corp.zz
>>000003C0  All rights reserved.zzzIBM Socket Service for ThinkPad Series (P
>>00000400  CI) : Internal Revision 1.00.03zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>__________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>          SS2INTEL.SYS   19,455 .a..    8-19-1999  5:35:08
>>Comments: Gives error about not loading, no reason why.
>>HEX-DUMP:-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>000000C0  zzzzazLzzzB$@zB$zSS2INTELzzzzzH@#OEM:9.23#@ OS/2 PCCard Driver f
>>00000100  or Intel compatible CardBus controllerszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000140  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000180  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>000001C0  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000200  zzzzzzzzzzICSS001$zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzPCMCIA$ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000240  zzzz@zzzzz'z*z'zzzzzzz-zzzizfzzzxzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzTz
>>00000280  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>000002C0  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>00000300  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'z>zzEzUzzzzzzzzzzzz`zpzzz|z}zzzzzzzp
>>00000340  zezTzzz|z|z|z|z|z|z|zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz@zzz zzzzzzz
>>00000380  z@zzzzzzzz !" zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (0zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>000003C0  zzOS/2 PCMCIA Socket Services Device Driver, Version BETA #3zzPC
>>00000400  MCIA Socket Services Release 2.1zz<<<< For Evaluation Purpose On
>>00000440  ly >>>>zzzSocket Service for Intel PCIC compatible CardBus contr
>>00000480  oller: Internal Revision 0.05.01zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>__________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any tips or help you can offer.
>>
>>Randy Petersen <rpeterse@ix.netcom.com>
>>
>>/*----------------------------------------------------------------------*
>>  Posted with MR/2 ICE v1.51 (#10203) courtesy of In-Joy Pro on OS/2
>>  Please also email replies to: Randy Petersen <rpeterse@ix.netcom.com>
>>  Now Very Happily Warping along with Warp 3.0 Connect at fixpack #40.
>>  SPAMMERS don't bother me, I direct them to the void at /dev/nul.
>>*----------------------------------------------------------------------*/


>baden

>baden@unixg.ubc.ca
>http://baden.nu/
>OS/2, Solaris & Linux

/*----------------------------------------------------------------------*
  Posted with MR/2 ICE v1.51 (#10203) courtesy of In-Joy Pro on OS/2
  Please also email replies to: Randy Petersen <rpeterse@ix.netcom.com>
  Now Very Happily Warping along with Warp 3.0 Connect at fixpack #40.
  SPAMMERS don't bother me, I direct them to the void at /dev/nul.
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From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@b...               29-Aug-99 12:35:11
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:08
Subj: Re: apm does not work like I want

Message sender: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch

From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens)

Hi Doug,

thanks for your information. The BIOS I have (ASUS P2B  board) has got
not very much to configure. The BIOS on my old board had a lot more 
switches.
Maybe I look for a tool which can access hidden BIOS switches.

Jens

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From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@b...               29-Aug-99 12:35:15
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:09
Subj: Re: Communicator/2 4.61: No Cookie Security (Again)

Message sender: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch

From: jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens)

Normally cookies can be read by a) the server which set the cookie or 
b) by any other server in the same domain.

Cookies can never be read from foreign servers (unless there is a 
bug).

Jens

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     29-Aug-99 19:54:05
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 19:53:18
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta 2: STILL No Cookie Security

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:

> Jeff, when you get tired of this discussion about a
> BETA product [snip]

The BETA product is my concern right now.  Netscape 4.04
is in service mode, so it is no longer owned by development.

> please switch over to the thread about the
> GENERAL AVAILABILITY product Communicator 4.04 with
> Fix Pack XR_1404.  I'm having some problems with the
> OFFICIALLY RELEASED product, not the beta.

I do remember starting to read your message, but it was a
lot to wade through and didn't apply to the product of my
concern, so I just moved along to the next message.  If you
could perhaps post your problem a little more succinctly,
without referring to old unrelated problems that have been
already fixed, I'll see if I can offer any advice.

I'm not here to give technical support, but I'll see what I
can do to help.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator 4.61 for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            29-Aug-99 20:19:00
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 19:53:19
Subj: Experienced MOUSE has(had) fleas!

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

I just thought I knew about mice!   Another one for the faithful ..

My skilled and intelligent Logitec RF mouse is tethered to a ROSE
switcher between my four-at-one-blow LAN ..  As a PS- styled Rosie, it
has had *NO* trouble servicing most all of the various serial port mouse
configured OS/2 systems for months and months on end.

Yes, its battery ain't necessarily kin to the Eveready Bunny, but, toss
a new one in it periodically and it goeth on and on and on until... it
tells you time for a new one when the range goes down on how far you can
get it from its 'lectro radio cage!

     Yeah .. so I thought!  Read on ..

Over a week or so my major box mouse developed a Holmsian attitude.  A
general flavor of mild decay, but nothing so local as one might say,
cause for worry or fright or alarm....  Oh, the mouse action would be
a bit slugish, as if the pad were dirty, or the roller neede cleaning,
but if I wiped it, it's go right ahead and play roller derby...

     Until Today!

     No mouse!

Funny thing, though.  All the *OTHER* OS/2 boxes tied to the Rose switch
still worked FINE!

     Of course, since they all still worked fine .. it must be the
     OS/2 system in the big box, right??

     Sure .. must be right and just as in that old Burma Shave
     highway sign jingle:

          "He was right, dead right as he sped along.
           But he's just as dead, as if he were wrong"

     So .. grin .. wide, wide grin ....

     Boil, boil cauldron bubble... Change up system on the double! :)

     Replace mouse driver .. Nope.  Backlevel it to syslevel .. Nope.
     Replace the latest and greatest IBMKBD.SYS from the driver site
     with earlier, then syslevel .. Nope.  Swap IBM driver for
     RODENT.SYS .. Nope.  Replace IBM driver with INIMOUSE.SYS .. Nope.

     Now I *GUARANTEE* there are no conflicts in IRQ's or ports!!
     However, you know the drill .. Swap ports and IRQ's .. Nope.

     OK, de-install mouse and re-install mouse at system level .. Nope.

     Crazy!  Use ALT F1, mask hardware.  whatever!  Mouse action
     shows green lights all over the 'lectro radio cage ... until ..

          Time for DESKTOP,

          than all the fleas come out and mousie just sulks!

     And..

          Only on one of the four computers, this one!

What kind of mousonic plague is this thing carrying?

For grins, I substituted and ordinary serial cable mouse on the mouse port.

     Presto!  Fixed!

     Why?

Answer:

     Messrs Gilbert and Sullivan have had the answer for years! :)

     "All things are not what they seem.
     Skim milk masquerades as cream!"

     It turns out that there may be subtle timing errors in the mouse
     code in the IBM system which vary from box to box, CPU to CPU,
     and so on..

     Just because a battery seems to be OK and the silly mouse
     runs all the OTHER boxes in the switched network game, does
     *NOT* mean that it is up enough to co-opt the TIMING required
     for activity on a particular computer, of all things!!

     Replaced the battery!

     Fleas gone!

Yours in faith ..

//-----------------------------
Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org


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From: sprins@businessnet.net                            29-Aug-99 23:16:06
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 19:53:19
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>

Baden Kudrenecky wrote:

> >>    AFAIK, 8423 and 8424 are 32 bit stacks.  I just looked on my
> >> one computer with 8424, and it is definitely a 32 bit stack, and
> >> the syslevel states that the previous version was a 8421, which
> >> I believe also was a 32 bit stack, as I went 32 bit in spring
> >> 1998, with the previous January MPTS (8421?), and it
> >> significantly improved the TCP/IP performance.
> >>
> >> baden
> >>
> >> baden@unixg.ubc.ca
> >> http://baden.nu/
> >> OS/2, Solaris & Linux
> >
> >I did not know that 8421+ were 32 bit. Are you sure?
>
>    Definitely!  My IPSpeed has two versions, 16 bit and 32 bit,
> so I can test it with that.

Well, it could also be that 8421+ have a TCPIP32.dll which thunks to TCPIP.dll 
thich could be
16 bit. However, I'm less and less impressed by performance and more and more
by stability
each day. I might try to downlevel if IBM doesn't come up with any solution
soon. Are 8421+
for SMP machines? Or do I need a different version for that? I'll look around

> >Does anyone have a stable MPTS 86xx install?? How?

Peeps that do some webbrowsing only using the 86xx may do that without too
many problems...

>    My friend who supports large OS/2 LANs and WANs, told me to
> stay away from the 86xx stacks as they are way too buggy.

It also depends on the applications. I'm splitting up services over different
servers now and
that way I get to choose the stablest stack for each server. My mail server
(InetMail) e.g.
benefits a lot from 8610. So does Lotus Go (which is a terrible buggy program
by the way).
Apache, Xitami, other EMX apps and the JVM apparently don't.

What I don't understand is that the MPTS team doesn't make fixing this a
priority (or maybe
they do, and it only seems that they don't). From my understanding WSeB with
the 8620 stack
also has all the problems we are having and then some. So much for (b)leeding
edge e-business
tools...

Sacha


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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                30-Aug-99 03:02:26
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 05:29:13
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <37C9B12D.49F371A6@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>
writes:
>Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
>
>> >>    AFAIK, 8423 and 8424 are 32 bit stacks.  I just looked on my
>> >> one computer with 8424, and it is definitely a 32 bit stack, and

   It's actually 8423.

>> >> the syslevel states that the previous version was a 8421, which
>> >> I believe also was a 32 bit stack, as I went 32 bit in spring
>> >> 1998, with the previous January MPTS (8421?), and it
>> >> significantly improved the TCP/IP performance.
>> >>
>> >> baden
>> >>
>> >> baden@unixg.ubc.ca
>> >> http://baden.nu/
>> >> OS/2, Solaris & Linux
>> >
>> >I did not know that 8421+ were 32 bit. Are you sure?
>>
>>    Definitely!  My IPSpeed has two versions, 16 bit and 32 bit,
>> so I can test it with that.
>
>Well, it could also be that 8421+ have a TCPIP32.dll which thunks to
TCPIP.dll thich could be
>16 bit. However, I'm less and less impressed by performance and more and more 
by stability

   I just checked now on two machines:

   One has OS/2 Connect and FP_40 with syslevel.mpt 8000, and
the other has OS/2 3.0 Red and syslevel.mpt 8423 over 8421.

   Using Watchcat, the TCPIP.DLL for the 8000 machine is a 16
bit DLL, and for the 8423 machine, the TCPIP.DLL is 32 bit.
There are still 16 bit EXEs and DLLs on both machines, notably:

LANMSGEX.EXE
    type:        Windowable
    mod DLL(32)         DOSCALL1.DLL
    mod DLL(16)         LANMSGDL.DLL
    mod DLL(32)         MSG.DLL
    mod DLL(32)         VIOCALLS.DLL
AFNBINI.EXE
    type:        Windowable
CNTRL.EXE
    type:        Windowable

>each day. I might try to downlevel if IBM doesn't come up with any solution
soon. Are 8421+
>for SMP machines? Or do I need a different version for that? I'll look around

   No, if you go to
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us,
you will see that there are separate packages for SMP:
16-May-97 00:00      - wr08502_smp     16-May-97 00:00      - 
26-Aug-97 00:00      - wr08503_smp     26-Aug-97 00:00      - 
03-Dec-97 00:00      - wr08504_smp     03-Dec-97 00:00      - 
15-May-98 00:00      - wr08506_smp     15-May-98 00:00      - 

>> >Does anyone have a stable MPTS 86xx install?? How?
>
>Peeps that do some webbrowsing only using the 86xx may do that without too
many problems...
>
>>    My friend who supports large OS/2 LANs and WANs, told me to
>> stay away from the 86xx stacks as they are way too buggy.
>
>It also depends on the applications. I'm splitting up services over different 
servers now and
>that way I get to choose the stablest stack for each server. My mail server
(InetMail) e.g.
>benefits a lot from 8610. So does Lotus Go (which is a terrible buggy program 
by the way).
>Apache, Xitami, other EMX apps and the JVM apparently don't.

   The only reason that went for the new MPTS 8423 (on my
laptop), was for the enhanced DHCP support, and the TCPIP speed
increase was an unexpected bonus.

>What I don't understand is that the MPTS team doesn't make fixing this a
priority (or maybe
>they do, and it only seems that they don't). From my understanding WSeB with
the 8620 stack
>also has all the problems we are having and then some. So much for (b)leeding 
edge e-business
>tools...

   That's why I stay away from the edge, never lone the bleeding
edge.  {:-) It was just a few weeks ago that I upgraded to OS/2
3.0 Connect from Red, and to Warp Server 4.0 from Lan Server 4.0
over 3.0 Red, and then applied my first OS/2 fix packs.


baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    30-Aug-99 03:11:20
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 05:29:13
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta 2: STILL No Cookie Security

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37C98F62.25DBD00B@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>,
  "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>
wrote:
>
> Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
>
> > Jeff, when you get tired of this discussion about
a
> > BETA product [snip]
>
> The BETA product is my concern right now.  Netscape
4.04
> is in service mode, so it is no longer owned by
development.

Too bad.  You'd probably do a better job.  Also, like
I say, it's a problem I would hope you'd like to
address in the beta so maybe you should be
interested.  (I have to at least suggest this to try
to justify your paying attention to it.)

> > please switch over to the thread about the
> > GENERAL AVAILABILITY product Communicator 4.04
with
> > Fix Pack XR_1404.  I'm having some problems with
the
> > OFFICIALLY RELEASED product, not the beta.
>
> I do remember starting to read your message, but it
was a
> lot to wade through and didn't apply to the product
of my
> concern, so I just moved along to the next message.
If you
> could perhaps post your problem a little more
succinctly,
> without referring to old unrelated problems that
have been
> already fixed, I'll see if I can offer any advice.
>
> I'm not here to give technical support, but I'll
see what I
> can do to help.

Oy.  Succinct, he wants.  Well, I would be too
boorishly rude for words were I to ignore this most
gracious response.  And since the topic of this post
is not the topic of this thread (yet I have to
respond to your post, so that puts this post
erroneously on this thread), may I politely ask that
we continue this discussion in the other thread,
where it properly belongs?  As in, if you respond to
this post, do it as a response to my earlier post on
the other thread so the discussion can continue where
it belongs.

OK.  Opening multiple browser windows crashes 4.04
with XR_1404.  POPUPLOG.OS2 provided on other thread.

Despite claim in README for XR_1404 that download
problem was fixed, I continue to get stalls
downloading certain pages (URLs posted on other
thread).  Leaving focus in the browser stalls the
data transmission.  Switching focus off the browser
makes the data transmission resume.  This is not FTP,
just a plain-old page load.

It's really quite a detailed problem & honestly, I
was appropriately succinct on the other thread.  It
may not have looked succinct, but it was as thin as I
could make it & still describe the problems.

And they're not old & corrected problems.  They're
old problems that have never been addressed.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com                30-Aug-99 01:48:02
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 05:29:13
Subj: Re: Install problems

From: "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>

On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:34:55 GMT, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote:

>In article
><gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.fh5lio0.pminews@netnews.worldn
>et.att.net>,
>  "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:11:24 -0600, DJR wrote:
>        <<<snip other posts as well>>>
>> >c:\mmos2\sb16d2.sys
>        <<<snip>>>
>
>Everybody else is telling you how to disable sound
>support.  This is what I have on my system:

[snip]

Actually, the issue is with installation, where all kinds of drivers are
loaded for the purposes of testing whether or not the equipment exists. 
With some hardware combinations, some devices simply cannot be safely
tested for, and the result is a system crash (caused by the device, not
the software).  The only way to be perfectly safe is to avoid testing for
hardware, and require the user to manually choose what's present from a
list.  It would be nice if the option to do this (on several levels, such
as not testing for sound cards only) were available in the OS/2 installer,
but it's not.

So, the advice he's been given is to remove the offending driver from the
installation config.sys, so that he can install OS/2, period.  

I've yet to see a laptop that uses a SB chipset for sound.  Most seem to
use Crystal Semiconductor, Opti, or ESS chips.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     30-Aug-99 06:02:19
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 12:22:13
Subj: Re: Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04 Fix Pack XR_1404

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Ok, you wanted a response... here it is.  (I'll be quoting
pieces of your messages from this thread, plus from the
other thread in which you asked me to reply here.)

Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:

> I guess the beta for 4.61 is taking longer than
> expected so they've released some maintenance to the
> old release they were hoping to just roll out with
> the new release.  I'm glad they've released it but
> sad 4.61 is going to be delayed that much longer.

The 4.04 and the 4.61 schedules have nothing to do with
each other; they are produced by two different areas (one
is service/maintenence and the other is development).

> One APAR listed in the .INF file is this:
>
> o APAR = IC23660 SERND:  NETSCAPE 4.04
> (SERVICE LEVEL 6) HANGS WHILE DOWNLOADING FILES.

This problem deals with a complete application hang
that requires the termination of the Netscape process,
not a mere delay in rendering a page that is recovered
after a minute or two.

> I know a lot of folks saw that problem, but I never
> did.  I'm here to repeat a problem description I have
> posted about at length since February.

Posting about a problem does not mean it will be
resolved.  You must report your problems through the
proper channels.

> Frequently, even though all the HTML
> has been read, Communicator refuses to render the
> page until most of the graphics have arrived.  I
> thought this product was supposed to show me as much
> as it had received & just render the rest as it
> arrives.  I've NEVER had that happen.

That depends on the coding of the web page.  If the
HTML specifies the width/height of the graphic being
loaded, then Communicator can lay out the page and
show you what has been received before it completes
the loading of the images.  Otherwise, the images have
to be loaded before the correct placement of the items
on the webpage can be determined.  Also, complex
tables takes some extra work to figure out the proper
layout.

> With these
> pages, I see the outlines for some of the graphics
> near the top of the page, and BLANK for the rest of
> the page.  It seems like it renders what it can from
> the top of the page down, NOT what it has piece by
> piece.

HTML rendering is top-down by design.  Communicator
will render as much as it can, starting at the top, but
once it gets to an element that it can't render without
a load (such as an image whose size isn't specified in
the HTML), the rest of the page has to be deferred
until the layout can be determined.

> The problem is aggravated when I try to load several
> pages simultaneously in separate instantiations of
> the browser.

Of course it is.  You'll be opening more TCP/IP connections,
causing more messages and more painting to happen,
more work for the CPU to handle the rendering of the
pages, etc.

> Nobody on the development team has ever
> acknowledged this problem.

What does this mean?  We don't acknowledge every
problem individually.  If you report the problem through
the proper channels, and it is recreatable beyond just
your machine configuration, then chances are it will get
some attention.

> I find also that pages with tables with lots of cells
> that have colored backgrounds take several extra
> seconds to render.

Yup.  Tables are a lot of work for the Netscape layout
engine, particularly nested tables.

> My suspicion is
> there's instructions in the rendering engine that are
> optimized for the newer Pentiums.

Not at all.  What you are probably experiencing is a
timing problem that your slower machine and slower
connection are running into; perhaps you even have
alot less RAM in that 133?  You don't need to have any
special code for those sort of differences in machine
and connection speed to show different behaviors.

> it's a problem I would hope you'd like to
> address in the beta so maybe you should be
> interested.
Have you seen these same problems with the 4.61
beta release?  If so, you should have submitting the
details for each problem you've seen to the beta
feedback system.

> OK.  Opening multiple browser windows crashes
> 4.04 with XR_1404.  POPUPLOG.OS2 provided
Now we're getting somewhere!  If only you had that
same information with regards to the 4.61 beta, I
could do something about it.  As it is, all I can do is
pass the information along to the 4.04 service folks.

> Despite claim in README for XR_1404 that
> download problem was fixed, I continue to
> get stalls downloading certain pages
The "download" problem was for ftp downloads, not
web page rendering.  Completely different problem.
Your "stalls" are not hangs, just delays in rendering
the web page.

> And they're not old & corrected problems.  They're
> old problems that have never been addressed.
The APARs you mentioned were old and corrected
problems.  Trying to tie your problems into those
is more than likely why you've been ignored.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator 4.61 for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com                         30-Aug-99 12:26:27
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 14:26:20
Subj: Re: SCSI and OS2

From: morgannalefey@my-deja.com

In article
<wnaqnavryffbasnyhaznvygryvnpbz.fh5jqs0.pminews@news1.telia.com>,
  "Jan Danielsson" <Jan.Danielsson@falun.mail.telia.com> wrote:
> >
> >I am having problem to partition-format the drive:
> >
> >  When formatted as HPFS, fdisk shows it at FAT :-(.
> >  When trying to install OS2 , the installation goes kaboom as soon
> >trying
> >to write a long file name.
> >
> >Is anabody have any idea?
>
> It seems like a problem I have seen a couple times before. Email me
with some
> more details, and I'll see if it is what I think it is..

Better yet, would you post it here?  I'd like to learn about this
stuff. :)

--
Siobhan Perricone
PC Technician
Alltel Information Services
(I only speak for myself, not for Alltel)


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From: nospam@neverland.com                              30-Aug-99 09:52:28
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:26
Subj: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: "FEEB" <nospam@neverland.com>

Intermittent SYS3175's with NS 4.61 B2:

08-26-1999  08:11:21  SYS3175  PID 00e6  TID 0001  Slot 00de
E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1be2f6eb
P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000000  EBX=007c650c  ECX=69737265  EDX=13e8afa0
ESI=007c58e8  EDI=17a578ec  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=08bb  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c58d0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c58f0  FLG=00012202

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0012f6eb

------------------------------------------------------------

08-30-1999  09:42:08  SYS3175  PID 0052  TID 0001  Slot 00d0
E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1be2f6eb
P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000000  EBX=17a71c1c  ECX=00010052  EDX=13e8afa0
ESI=17a841e0  EDI=17a71c38  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=08bb  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c5824  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff

Frank Bures, fbures@chem.toronto.edu (use this address for replies)
http://frank.chem.utoronto.ca/electronics
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From: j1hamilton@aol.com                                30-Aug-99 14:28:23
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:26
Subj: OS/2 Security Enabling Services

From: j1hamilton@aol.com (J1Hamilton)

The replacement for Dr. Solomon's Antivirus needs OS/2's SES installed and
enabled for full antivirus capability. After installing this and the antivirus
program, the virus shield installs and the workplace shell boots up properly.
Keyboard functions O.K. and PS/2 mouse movement is O.K., but as soon as either
mouse button is clicked the following trap is encountered:
TRAP 000d    ERRCD=fffc  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
EAX=fdc90000  EBX=fff00004  ECX=00a40000  EDX=00000000
ESI=a9000160  EDI=fdf08fec  EBP=00001fde  FLG=00012046
CS:EIP=2570:00023e8  CSACC=009b  CSLIM=000037a2
SS:ESP=00e8:00001fcc  SSACC=0093  SSLIM=00001fff
DS=2568  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=00001924  CR0=8001001b
ES=0428  ESACC=1091  ESLIM=00000071  CR2=16e076c0
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********

The system detected an internal processing error at location ##0168:fff492de -
000e:c2de
60000, 9084

06860673
Internal revision 9.034, 98/11/17

Any ideas?  Warp 4, FP10. This error occurs on both a Tyan Tomcat MB with
Cyrix
p166 and Tyan Tsunami MB with Pentium III/600.
                                                                      Jerry
Hamilton

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    30-Aug-99 15:09:13
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: Install problems

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.fh9k441.pminews@netnews.worldn
et.att.net>,
  "Mike Ruskai" <thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:34:55 GMT, Bill "Wild Willy"
Kredentser wrote:
>
> >In article
>
><gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.fh5lio0.pminews@netnews.world
n
> >et.att.net>,
> >  "Mike Ruskai"
<thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:11:24 -0600, DJR wrote:
> >        <<<snip other posts as well>>>
> >> >c:\mmos2\sb16d2.sys
> >        <<<snip>>>
> >
> >Everybody else is telling you how to disable sound
> >support.  This is what I have on my system:
>
> [snip]
>
> Actually, the issue is with installation, where all
kinds of drivers are
> loaded for the purposes of testing whether or not
the equipment exists.
        <<<snip>>>

Ah yes.  Competition for resources during bootup.  I
know about that one.  OK.  Good point.

> I've yet to see a laptop that uses a SB chipset for
sound.  Most seem to
> use Crystal Semiconductor, Opti, or ESS chips.

Really?  OK.  I have almost no experience with
laptops so this is good to know.  My office system
has Crystal Semiconductor sound chips built into the
motherboard so I can say that I do like the CS sound
support in OS/2.  So much so that if/when my home
sound card ever goes belly up, its replacement will
be CS.

WW
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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             30-Aug-99 10:44:04
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: OS/2 Security Enabling Services

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On 30 Aug 1999 14:28:47 GMT, J1Hamilton wrote:

>CS:EIP=2570:00023e8  CSACC=009b  CSLIM=000037a2
I seem to recall some problem with the mouse drivers, so try getting xr_dd01
and applying it, if you've not already done so. If that doesn't help,
download exeinfo.zip from hobbes, then run "exeinfo -f -l37a2" from a command
prompt (on your boot drive). With luck, you'll come up with a match in a
device driver, so you'll at least know what's trapping (probably).


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    30-Aug-99 15:48:18
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04 Fix Pack XR_1404

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37CA1DF9.D603B7AA@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>,
  "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>
wrote:
> Ok, you wanted a response... here it is.

I greatly appreciate what you're doing, Jeff.  Let me
thank you before I go any further.

        <<<snip>>>
> Posting about a problem does not mean it will be
> resolved.  You must report your problems through
the
> proper channels.

Well, I've been trying in my own small way to make
Usenet proper channels.  It makes so much more sense.
One person has a problem, 5 others come out of the
woodwork saying, "Me too."  Countless others watch
silently, nodding their heads.  A single support
person posts a single response and dozens, perhaps
hundreds of people get their solution in a single
stroke.  The reasons for making Usenet the proper
channels are overwhelming.

> > Frequently, even though all the HTML
> > has been read, Communicator refuses to render the
> > page until most of the graphics have arrived.
        <<<snip>>>

Thanks for this explanation, Jeff.  Now I understand
it.  I suppose it's a design choice.  On a slow
connection, it might make more sense to just let the
rendering engine render what it has, then re-render
the page as required as each piece comes trickling
in.  On a fast connection, that would look like a lot
of thrashing & annoying flickering.  I'll quit
griping about it.  Although, if the situation could
be helped by more intelligent HTML coding, I suppose
gripes could be directed at web authors......

> > The problem is aggravated when I try to load
several
> > pages simultaneously in separate instantiations
of
> > the browser.
>
> Of course it is.  You'll be opening more TCP/IP
connections,
> causing more messages and more painting to happen,
> more work for the CPU to handle the rendering of
the
> pages, etc.

But the problem I'm referring to is not just a
pegging of the CPU at 100%.  All data transmission
stops dead until I switch focus away from all the
browser windows.  Even though CPU remains at 100%,
switching focus immediately resumes data
transmission.  I have taken to disabling graphics,
Java, & Javascript while reading news at Deja News.
It seems that the problem is caused by their
advertising.  Some of the ads appear to be launching
Javascripts or something.  There's this one ad with
an animated arrow, a salt shaker, & a fish swimming
through the salt cloud that consistently causes that
trap whose POPUPLOG.OS2 I posted.  However, even with
all that stuff disabled, even though I seem to be
avoiding traps, I do still observe this business of
the data transmission stopping dead until I switch
focus.

And speaking of that POPUPLOG.OS2, no ideas on that?

> > Nobody on the development team has ever
> > acknowledged this problem.
>
> What does this mean?  We don't acknowledge every
> problem individually.  If you report the problem
through
> the proper channels, and it is recreatable beyond
just
> your machine configuration, then chances are it
will get
> some attention.

Well, there's several responses here.  No, I don't
expect a personal response to everything I post.
However, there was quite a long thread running here a
few months ago in which at least a dozen people
participated, not just me.  And we all had this
problem.  So, adding this to my expectation that
Usenet is proper channels, my hope has been that
somebody (and you're standing in the target zone
right now so that makes you somebody) would post a
response to this here.  As Irv Spalten & Dick Kurtz
have been doing so admirably.  And as you & Mike
Kaply have also.  But nobody from "the inside" ever
posted on the old thread, which appeared long before
4.61 ever went beta.

        <<<snip>>>
> > My suspicion is
> > there's instructions in the rendering engine that
are
> > optimized for the newer Pentiums.
>
> Not at all.  What you are probably experiencing is
a
> timing problem that your slower machine and slower
> connection are running into; perhaps you even have
> alot less RAM in that 133?  You don't need to have
any
> special code for those sort of differences in
machine
> and connection speed to show different behaviors.

OK.  Tables are hard.  I have certainly observed
that.  But my home Pentium 133 has 96Meg of processor
RAM while my office Pentium II 266 has only 64Meg.  I
expect these levels of RAM focus attention back on
the CPUs, which was why I speculated about
instruction optimization.  If that's not it, OK.
It's simply a question of speed & until I blow the
moths out of my wallet & get a modern CPU at home, I
should quit compaining about this.

> > it's a problem I would hope you'd like to
> > address in the beta so maybe you should be
> > interested.
> Have you seen these same problems with the 4.61
> beta release?  If so, you should have submitting
the
> details for each problem you've seen to the beta
> feedback system.

Well, I'm waiting for 4.61 to go General
Availability.  Sorry, Jeff.  However, there must be
somebody else reading this who does have 4.61 beta
installed on a relatively slow CPU & a phone
connection who could replicate this.  I posted the
URLs that most often cause me trouble with
4.04+XR_1404.  Anybody . . . . . . . . . ?

        <<<snip>>>
> As it is, all I can do is
> pass the information along to the 4.04 service
folks.

I can't ask for more.  THIS is all I've ever meant by
"acknowledgement" and "response."  Thank you.

        <<<snip>>>

WW
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From: goffena@raleigh.ibm.com                           30-Aug-99 12:07:16
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: SmartSiute 1.0

From: "Jim Goffena" <goffena@raleigh.ibm.com>

On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:30:38 +0200, Michael Pedersen wrote:

:>I Have a problem intalling SmartSuite 1.0 on OS2 Warp 4.0 FP11, get the
error
:>message complaining about not having the right FixPak. Can enyone help me
:>with this ?
:>
:>

If your using a cmd.exe replacement such as 4os2, you will get that message. 
So make sure you are in a cmd shell when executing the installer.

regards,

Jim


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    30-Aug-99 15:56:29
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article
<soherfpurzgbebagbrqh.fha6k90.pminews@news1.chem.utor
onto.ca>,
  "FEEB" <nospam@neverland.com> wrote:
> Intermittent SYS3175's with NS 4.61 B2:
>
> 08-26-1999  08:11:21  SYS3175  PID 00e6  TID 0001
Slot 00de
> E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> c0000005
> 1be2f6eb
        <<<small snippage>>>
> DS=0053
> ES=0053
> FS=150b
> GS=08bb
> CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> SS:ESP=0053:007c58d0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff

Jeff!  Jeff!  Jeff!  This matches the POPUPLOG.OS2 I
posted for 4.04+XR_1404!!!  Go for it!

WW
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From: jbrock@panix.com                                  30-Aug-99 12:24:00
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04 Fix Pack XR_1404

From: jbrock@panix.com (John Brock)

Is there eventually going to be a new refresh of 4.04, incorporating
XR_1404, on Software Choice, or will any further updates come as
fixpacks?

Just curious.  Patiently waiting for 4.61 GA.
-- 
John Brock
jbrock@panix.com

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From: sprins@businessnet.net                            30-Aug-99 18:32:04
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>


Baden Kudrenecky wrote:

> >each day. I might try to downlevel if IBM doesn't come up with any solution 
soon. Are 8421+
> >for SMP machines? Or do I need a different version for that? I'll look
around
>
>    No, if you go to
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us,
> you will see that there are separate packages for SMP:

What does 'converged' mean? Stacks wr08423_conv and wr08424_convare that. I
thought that that
means it can be installed on all OS/2 versions (including SMP). But I'm not
sure.

> >So much for (b)leeding edge e-business
> >tools...
>
>    That's why I stay away from the edge, never lone the bleeding
> edge.  {:-)

A wise decision.

Sacha


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From: dbmiller@aol.com                                  30-Aug-99 16:47:17
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: Experienced MOUSE has(had) fleas!

From: dbmiller@aol.com (DBMiller)

>It turns out that there may be subtle timing errors in the mouse
>     code in the IBM system which vary from box to box, CPU to CPU,
>     and so on..

I enjoyd your description of the erratic mouse behavior you were getting with
your Logitech RF mouse connected to four switched network machines.

My experience is quite similar, but I attribute the problem to timing issues
introduced by the KVM switch linking the machines.

I have a Belkin KVM which links an OS/2 Warp 4 and a Win 98 machine. The
Logitech RF mouse works perfectly when attached directly to either machine.
However, when the machines were linked with the KVM the mouse behavior on the
Win 98 machine would occasionally and unpredictably go wild; opening windows,
dragging text, and generally messing things up. After I installed the Logitech
supplied mouse driver on the Win 98 machine, rather than the Windows supplied
driver I had been using, the mouse calmed down to the point where it is usable
through the KVM.

The mouse has always behaved itself when it was controlling the OS/2 machine
via the KVM.

I was on the verge of trying a Rose KVM to see if that would correct my
problem, so I am glad you reported your experience and saved me the effort.

Dwight B. Miller

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From: jmprice@calweb.com                                30-Aug-99 10:29:27
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com>

Here are a couple more.  I have tons of 'em.


08-28-1999  17:24:34  SYS3175  PID 0134  TID 0002  Slot 0062
J:\NET46B\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
0034efde
P1=00000001  P2=00000121  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000001  EBX=00000001  ECX=00000000  EDX=00000000
ESI=00000000  EDI=01486df0  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f2  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:0034efde  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00fcff50  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00fcff80  FLG=00012246

NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:0033efde

------------------------------------------------------------

08-29-1999  12:12:50  SYS3175  PID 014b  TID 0001  Slot 005b
J:\NET46B\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
0029fac7
P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00ffd4a0  EBX=64612074  ECX=00e516e0  EDX=00e51570
ESI=013a0033  EDI=00000303  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f2  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:0029fac7  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c5d34  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c5dbc  FLG=00012206

NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:0028fac7

------------------------------------------------------------



-- 
John M. Price, PhD                                     jmprice@calweb.com
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. 
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

"Psychoanalysis is at best a premature crystallization of spurious
orthodoxies;  at worst, a pseudo-scientific doctrine that has done untold
harm to psychology and psychiatry alike, and that has been equally harmful
to the hopes and aspirations of countless patients who trusted its siren
call. The time has come to treat it as a historical curiousity, and to
turn to the great task of building up a truly scientific psychology."

Hans Eysenck (1985). _Decline and fall of the Freudian Empire_
p208:Viking: England.

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From: never@tvol.it                                     30-Aug-99 17:42:23
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Why (color)

From: never@tvol.it (Zamp)

Hi

Why on my notebook White color is yellow ?!?!
So folders background is yellow ecc..
I have also reinstalled driver without success....




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From: jscott@csolve.net                                 30-Aug-99 17:59:25
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: IDEDASD  9908  ?????

From: JohnS <jscott@csolve.net>

Hi
I just tried to upgrade my drivers from FP6 to the ones contained in the
latest IDEDASD package.
Pent 100, HX chipset, 3 IDE drives, 1 atapi CD, 1 SCSI, 1 SCSI JAZZ.

It boots OK but two problems were apparent on my machine with these
drivers.

1/ The drive light remains on constantly.
2/ The IDE CDrom disappeared from my drives list.

Reverting to the original FP6 drivers (just by renaming the backups)
resolved both problems.

Has anyone else seen this problem??

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From: oliver.rick@oor.de                                29-Aug-99 22:23:03
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:28
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: oliver.rick@oor.de (Oliver Rick)

On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 Kris Kadela wrote:

> Is this upgrade hell or what? I don't even know what level of MPTS I
> am at now.

You can compare the output of INETVER with
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/Homepages/orick/tcpip1.htm#summary
or look at the output of SYSLEVEL.

> Does anyone have a stable MPTS 86xx install?? How?

Me, since it came out.
Old machine had W4, IC16063 + a latest stack fix. I just installed the
FixPak. Later TCP/IP 4.1 + V41RSU + UN01001 + FTPLATEST + 8610 + ICMPFIX.

New machine with first installation had problems with FP11 and 8620, so I
stepped back to good old solid 'triple-10' <g> FP10, Peer 8410, 8610.

A few days ago I reinstalled including FP11, DDPAK1, Peer 8412, TCP/IP 4.1,
V41RSU, UN01001, FTPLATEST + 8610 + 8620.
Internet access works perfectly. I don't use TCP/IP for the LAN.

   /Olli/
--
IBM OS/2 Warp Update Summary:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/Homepages/orick/warpupd1.htm

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From: robmv@ibm.net                                     30-Aug-99 16:35:04
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 21:34:14
Subj: DB2 6.1 problems with JFS

From: Robert Marcano <robmv@ibm.net>

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DB2 6.1 has a problem when using JFS (DB2 release notes says that).
Someone in a DB2 newsgroup gots this help for me
 -------------------------------
APAR= II11878
USING DB2 UDB AND OS/2 JFS FILESYSTEM REQUIRES OS/2 APAR PJ26494
AS WELL AS OS/2 APAR PJ26538
ERROR DESCRIPTION:
DB2 UDB fails when using OS/2 JFS Filesystem due to incorrect
data being written to/read from disk (all 0's).  This appears
to only occur when using JFS and a JFS cache size of 1024 (using
a cache size of 16358 does not reproduce the problem).
.
This is an OS/2 JFS problem fixed by APAR PJ26494.
LOCAL FIX:
Using a JFS cache size of 16538 has shown to resolve the problem
.
Install OS/2 APAR PJ26494.

RATIONALE: INFOR ITEM
Ensure that fixes for both OS/2 apars, PJ26494 and
PJ26538, are installed in order to resolve 2 OS/2 JFS
corruption problems.
--------------------------

Where can I find those OS/2 fixes..... I searched the OS/2 support page
"fixpacks by APAR number" but I haven't found it

TIA

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             30-Aug-99 16:22:11
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 21:34:14
Subj: Re: DB2 6.1 problems with JFS

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:35:09 -0600, Robert Marcano wrote:

>Where can I find those OS/2 fixes..... I searched the OS/2 support page
>"fixpacks by APAR number" but I haven't found it
We should have a new JFS available today or tomorrow.  Keep an eye on the NCS
Support News Items.


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From: us@appo.demon.co.uk                               30-Aug-99 22:36:29
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 21:34:15
Subj: Re: More modem troubles...

From: "Marcus, Aviva and Rhiannon" <us@appo.demon.co.uk>

Hi...

Phillip Davenport wrote:
> 
> Marcus, Aviva and Rhiannon <us@appo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Dumped my unknown 28800 modem and bought a Diamond SupraExpress V90i.
> > More problems...
> 
> >   Detected Hardware Function: PCI Device 07-00-00
> 
> >   PCI Device ID: 127A1002
> 
> >   IRQ Level =  9  PCI Pin = A     Flg = SHARED
> 
> >   Memory Base = 0XE4000000  Size = 00010000  Flg =  EXCLUSIVE
> 
> This is a winmodem.

Well that was what I thought, but Diamond claim that it is not (although
the fine details have yet to be chased up). My own feeling is that it is
the serial port that is virtual, not the entire modem.

> 
> > I really don't believe that a serial port needs 0xe4000000 to 0xe400ffff
> > in the memory to work!. I guess it is not set up right when OS/2 boots,
> > which leaves two problems...
> 
> This hardware doesn't have a serial port.

Is this absolutely certain? There does appear to be some irregularities
with PNP in general at present. What is the clue (besides 'not working')
that you are going on? Where is the info above actually stored? In the
modem itself, or inserted at bootup? It seems to me that the figures are
random, caused by the addresses being empty where that info should be.

> 
> > 1) What does windows do that OS/2 doesn't?
> 
> The hardware requires an OS specific driver to provide the modem 'innards'

This is probably not completely true. This model has a brother (for the
Mac market) with the pnp replaced with jumpers. Sadly, it is a US model
only. I may be just as stuck, however.

> 
> > 2) How do I get OS/2 to do it.
> 
> It doesn't.

Well, are their any internal modems that do? Or do OS/2 users get
'taxed' to the tune of an extra 20 quid and the loss of one of their
existing serial ports?

> 
>   p

Any one with more technical knowledge or fancy helping me out with some
of the information needed to write a device driver for this thing?

yours, Marcus.
-- 
Marcus, Aviva and Rhiannon at the "Appo site".
web:- http://www.appo.demon.co.uk
Marcus: marcus@shadow.org.uk, marcus@appo.demon.co.uk
Aviva: aviva@appo.demon.co.uk
Rhiannon: rhiannon@appo.demon.co.uk

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From: void@nospam.demon.nl                              30-Aug-99 14:11:10
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 21:34:15
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta 2: STILL No Cookie Security

From: huug <void@nospam.demon.nl>

>>>>> "Jeffrey" == Jeffrey S Kobal <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> writes:

 Jeffrey> Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:

 >> Jeff, when you get tired of this discussion about a BETA product
 >> [snip]

 Jeffrey> The BETA product is my concern right now.  Netscape 4.04 is in
 Jeffrey> service mode, so it is no longer owned by development.

Well, the beta product has the same sluggishness loading pages, apparent
stalls with focus problem, and unwillingness to render.

Me too: P-133, 28K8 modem.

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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           30-Aug-99 18:56:27
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 03:52:24
Subj: Re: Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04 Fix Pack XR_1404

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:

> I greatly appreciate what you're doing, Jeff.  Let me
> thank you before I go any further.
> [snip]
> Well, I've been trying in my own small way to make
> Usenet proper channels.  It makes so much more sense.

I can't disagree with your points, except that Usenet isn't
the proper channel for reporting problem with IBM products,
no matter how much "sense" it makes.  There are those of us
who understand the impact that venues such as these can
have, which is why I (among others) have spent some time
time contributing to the discussions here; however, we still
have a process to follow for the official tracking of problems.

> [snip] I do still observe this business of
> the data transmission stopping dead until I switch
> focus.

It sounds like the code that's supposed to be polling the socket
is getting blocked, or the timer isn't being kicked.  Again, this
is something that would need to be re-created and debugged
in order to determine the cause, and that isn't going to happen
unless the problem goes through the proper service channels.

> And speaking of that POPUPLOG.OS2, no ideas on that?

Nope.  The values in the trap screen are specific to the level
of the product you are running.  Since I don't have the 4.04
service build to compare against, those numbers have no
meaning to me.  This is something the service team would be
able to determine very easily.

> However, there was quite a long thread running here a
> few months ago in which at least a dozen people
> participated, not just me.  And we all had this
> problem.

It's possible that there were several different problems
happening, but which appeared to be all the same.  All
I can say is that I haven't seen a report in our 4.61 beta
feedback database with a problem that resembles the
one you've been describing.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           30-Aug-99 18:58:18
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 03:52:24
Subj: Re: Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04 Fix Pack XR_1404

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

John Brock wrote:

> Is there eventually going to be a new refresh of 4.04, incorporating
> XR_1404, on Software Choice, or will any further updates come as
> fixpacks?

I don't believe there are any plans for a full-blown refresh of 4.04 for

OS/2.  My understanding is that any further updates, if any, would
come as fixpacks.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           30-Aug-99 19:02:05
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 03:52:24
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Unfortunately, those are traps in the base operating system
(PMMERGE.DLL is the heart of Presentation Manager, which
is the Window Management subsystem of OS/2), so there would
be no way for me to know why it is happening without being able
to debug it directly.  You say it is intermittent, but what are you
doing when it happens?

Jeff


FEEB wrote:

> Intermittent SYS3175's with NS 4.61 B2:
>
> 08-26-1999  08:11:21  SYS3175  PID 00e6  TID 0001  Slot 00de
> E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> c0000005
> 1be2f6eb
> P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
> EAX=00000000  EBX=007c650c  ECX=69737265  EDX=13e8afa0
> ESI=007c58e8  EDI=17a578ec
> DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
> ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
> FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> GS=08bb  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
> CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> SS:ESP=0053:007c58d0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
> EBP=007c58f0  FLG=00012202
>
> PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0012f6eb

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From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           30-Aug-99 19:05:11
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 03:52:24
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:

> Jeff!  Jeff!  Jeff!  This matches the POPUPLOG.OS2 I
> posted for 4.04+XR_1404!!!  Go for it!

What level of OS/2 did you say you are you running?  Is that
CS:EIP exactly the same for your trap?  If I can match up the
address with the version of the OS you have, I can at least
find out the function in which the trap occurred, though that
may still be a far cry from determining why it is happening.
With an exception in base OS code, the way to figure out the
source of the problem is with a debug session.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: huffd@nls.net                                     31-Aug-99 04:09:28
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 11:04:19
Subj: Re: IDEDASD  9908  ?????

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Yes, I am using Aurora and there is only one set of files that works
for me. If I change any of the files I am giving up something. I have
had JFS partitions >4 Gig.on a 10+Gig hard drive, & a IDE CD-ROM.
The only IBM1S506.ADD file that works for me was sent to me
from an IBM Support specialist during the Aurora beta test. The
DANIS506.ADD is excellent and more flexible than the IBM
offering. I too attempted to use the new IDEDASD, that was
bad news. Thank God, I make copies of files before overwriting.


JohnS wrote:

> Hi
> I just tried to upgrade my drivers from FP6 to the ones contained in the
> latest IDEDASD package.
> Pent 100, HX chipset, 3 IDE drives, 1 atapi CD, 1 SCSI, 1 SCSI JAZZ.
>
> It boots OK but two problems were apparent on my machine with these
> drivers.
>
> 1/ The drive light remains on constantly.
> 2/ The IDE CDrom disappeared from my drives list.
>
> Reverting to the original FP6 drivers (just by renaming the backups)
> resolved both problems.
>
> Has anyone else seen this problem??

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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca                                31-Aug-99 06:45:14
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 11:04:19
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca   (Baden Kudrenecky)

In <37CAB209.C2B539FB@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins <sprins@businessnet.net>
writes:
>
>
>Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
>
>> >each day. I might try to downlevel if IBM doesn't come up with any
solution soon. Are 8421+
>> >for SMP machines? Or do I need a different version for that? I'll look
around
>>
>>    No, if you go to
>> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/mpts/fixes/english-us,
>> you will see that there are separate packages for SMP:
>
>What does 'converged' mean? Stacks wr08423_conv and wr08424_convare that. I
thought that that
>means it can be installed on all OS/2 versions (including SMP). But I'm not
sure.

WR08210 ServicePak/Refresh services MPTS for WARP Connect, and
WARP Server LS 5.0 (Converged Stack) U.S. and U.K. versions.  For
LS 4.0 MPTS (Non-Converged Stack) use WR08150.

This ServicePak/Refresh provides service for IBM MPTS LAN Adapter and
Protocol Support that shipped with WARP Connect, and LAN Server 5.0
MPTS that shipped with WARP Server, (Converged-Stack).  Countries
that use U.S. and U.K. versions may apply this ServicePak/Refresh.


baden

baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: fmaskus@spamcop.net                               31-Aug-99 00:33:06
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 11:04:19
Subj: HTML Preformatted text problem

From: Frank <fmaskus@spamcop.net>

I am baffeled with this problem of pre formatted text in a web page
showing up very differently in NS 2.02 and the new communicator 4.61
Beta.

I posted a sample html at:
 http.www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/fob_text.htm

Near the top I added a scale of numbers 1 through 50 appearing across
the screen. Directly below that is the formatted text that appears much
different in the two browsers. I have a feeling it is a problem with the
new communicator.

Using NETS 2.02 the preformatted text starts at 3 and end at 47, and
looks quite as intended.
In Communicator the text starts at about 2 1/2 and ends at 33, entirely
too small. I don't see why the great difference between the two
browsers. (all my font sizes are set to 10 in my browsers)

Someone else check this out please, and post or e-mail findings or any
advice.

Thanks, Frank.

-- 
* Frank Maskus  8832 N Syracuse #716  Portland, Oregon 97203  *
*        Homepage: http://www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/          *
*                                                             *
*             An oxymoron: Knowledgeable AOLers               *

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From: Unknown                                           31-Aug-99 09:53:18
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 11:04:19
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: Armin Pollak <pollak@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de

In <37C8BB6C.3CFC2787@dgraph.com>, Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> writes:
>
>
>Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
>> 
>> In <37C64ECA.1755AFFC@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins
<sprins@businessnet.net> writes:
>> >Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
>> >
>> >> In <37C599EB.87A3C267@businessnet.net>, Sacha Prins
<sprins@businessnet.net> writes:
>> >>
>> >>    AFAIK, the 86xx MPTS is really buggy, get an 8423 or 8424.
>> >
>> >How does 842x stack up against 86xx in performance? I'm afraid I need the
32 bit
>> >performance for the stuff I'm doing.
>> >
>> >Sacha
>> 
>>    AFAIK, 8423 and 8424 are 32 bit stacks.  I just looked on my
>> one computer with 8424, and it is definitely a 32 bit stack, and
>> the syslevel states that the previous version was a 8421, which
>> I believe also was a 32 bit stack, as I went 32 bit in spring
>> 1998, with the previous January MPTS (8421?), and it
>> significantly improved the TCP/IP performance.
>> 
>> baden
>> 
>> baden@unixg.ubc.ca
>> http://baden.nu/
>> OS/2, Solaris & Linux
>
>I did not know that 8421+ were 32 bit. Are you sure?
>Is this upgrade hell or what? I don't even know what level of MPTS I am
>at now.
>Does anyone have a stable MPTS 86xx install?? How?

Running fine here. MPTS WRG8600. TCPIP 4.1.
As already said in another posting, maybe you mixed up tcpip and mpts.
As far as I known you cant run all possible combinations.
Look at the readmes which combination is possible.

Hope this helps
	Armin

-----------Armin Pollak----Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen
Telefon: 089 / 6004 3502     Werner-Heisenberg-Weg 39, 
FAX:      089 / 6004 3397       85577 Neubiberg, Deutschland
email:    pollak@informatik.unibw-muenchen.de
     
This OS/2 system uptime is 1d 0h 23m 05s 250ms (en).

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From: terence@nikoyo.com                                31-Aug-99 04:43:00
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 11:04:19
Subj: HOWTO install OS2 Warp 4 on harddisk > 4G

From: Terence Cheng <terence@nikoyo.com>

After Reading newsgroups I understand that fixpak is needed on OS2 to
support HD > 4G. However, I can't find out the procedure of how to do
so! I want to install OS2/Warp 4 Simplified Chinese version ( I think
the install procedure is the same for all language version of OS2) Could
anyone kindly told me the procedure of making the install disks.
I had download the FixPak 5 for Simplified Chinese, and follow the
instruction of readme, update the os2ldr.exe. But the boot disk can't
recognize the HD.

Suggestions please

Terence Cheng
mailto:terence@nikoyo.com

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From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com                     31-Aug-99 12:04:06
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 11:04:20
Subj: Re: HOWTO install OS2 Warp 4 on harddisk > 4G

From: "Trevor Hemsley" <Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com>

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:43:00 +0800, Terence Cheng wrote:

->After Reading newsgroups I understand that fixpak is needed on OS2 to
->support HD > 4G. However, I can't find out the procedure of how to do
->so! I want to install OS2/Warp 4 Simplified Chinese version ( I think
->the install procedure is the same for all language version of OS2) Could
->anyone kindly told me the procedure of making the install disks.
->I had download the FixPak 5 for Simplified Chinese, and follow the
->instruction of readme, update the os2ldr.exe. But the boot disk can't
->recognize the HD.

You do not need an entire fixpack, just the replacement copy of
IBM1S506.ADD from
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe.
Download it, run it to extract the files and copy the new version of
IBM1S506.ADD to a diskcopy of the second install diskette. If there is not
enough space then remove one or both of the files AIC7770.ADD (EISA
Adaptec SCSI controller support) or AIC7870.ADD (PCI Adaptec 2940 series
SCSI controller support).


Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
(Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)



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From: gnilsen@smartt.com                                31-Aug-99 11:23:21
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 14:56:01
Subj: Re: HTML Preformatted text problem

From: gnilsen@smartt.com (Gordon Nilsen)

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:33:12, Frank <fmaskus@spamcop.net> wrote:

> I am baffeled with this problem of pre formatted text in a web page
> showing up very differently in NS 2.02 and the new communicator 4.61
> Beta.
> 
> I posted a sample html at:
>  http.www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/fob_text.htm
> 
> Near the top I added a scale of numbers 1 through 50 appearing across
> the screen. Directly below that is the formatted text that appears much
> different in the two browsers. I have a feeling it is a problem with the
> new communicator.
> 
> Using NETS 2.02 the preformatted text starts at 3 and end at 47, and
> looks quite as intended.
> In Communicator the text starts at about 2 1/2 and ends at 33, entirely
> too small. I don't see why the great difference between the two
> browsers. (all my font sizes are set to 10 in my browsers)
> 
> Someone else check this out please, and post or e-mail findings or any
> advice.
> 
> Thanks, Frank.
> 
> -- 
> * Frank Maskus  8832 N Syracuse #716  Portland, Oregon 97203  *
> *        Homepage: http://www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/          *
> *                                                             *
> *             An oxymoron: Knowledgeable AOLers               *

I checked the page with both 2.02 & 4.61 of nav, and found they are 
the same.

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From: davek@clark.net                                   31-Aug-99 11:58:27
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 14:56:01
Subj: How to back-out of MPTS 86xx?

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

I've read in several places that the MPTS fixpaks 8610 and 8620 are
really buggy and that I should have stayed at at 8421, 8423, 8424.
I'm experiencing some problems and would like to go back to see if
they go away. I don't have a backup that goes back that far that I
want to live with.  Is there any way to go back to the 84xx versions
without reinstalling or restoring the boot disk from backup?

--
David Kunz
Operator Error... Replace operator and hit any key to continue.

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    31-Aug-99 15:35:27
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 14:56:02
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37CB1C42.B5642475@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>,
  "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
>
> > Jeff!  Jeff!  Jeff!  This matches the
POPUPLOG.OS2 I
> > posted for 4.04+XR_1404!!!  Go for it!
>
> What level of OS/2 did you say you are you running?
Is that
> CS:EIP exactly the same for your trap?  If I can
match up the
> address with the version of the OS you have, I can
at least
> find out the function in which the trap occurred,
though that
> may still be a far cry from determining why it is
happening.
> With an exception in base OS code, the way to
figure out the
> source of the problem is with a debug session.

My trap showed CS:EIP=005b:003ca3ee but our buddy Mr.
FEEB posted CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb.  I don't know what
he's running but I'm at W4, FP11, MPTS WR08620, Peer
IP08412, Java 1.1.8.

Here's how I get it to happen.  It's a little
unpredictable because I find it is related to the
advertising various sites put up.  The ads seem to be
generated through some sort of programming, meaning
when you revisit a page, the ad often isn't what it
was the first time you visit.  I get the problem to
go away by disabling not just graphics but Java &
Javascript as well.  I believe (I could be wrong)
that I got the trap with graphics disabled but not J
& JS,  I think the ad launched its applet even though
the graphic wasn't transmitted.

Anyway, here's my scenario, and you can try it with
4.61.  Go to Deja News (easy way to generate a base
page to build from) & get a list of threads.  Right
click on threads off the base page & launch each one
in a new browser window.  Load it up with a stack of,
let's say, 4 additional browsers.  So you've got a
stack of 5 browsers, with the 5th one being the
original window you open first.  Work in the first
browser, surf to a few links, close the browser.
This pops the next one to the top.  Surf there a bit,
close it.

At this point, with 3 browsers still open, I have
seen the trap.  I have even seen it when none of the
browser windows has focus.  Because of other task
switching I may have done while the first 2 browsers
were still open, closing the second browser off the
stack doesn't necessarily give focus to the next
browser that becomes the top of the browser stack.  I
have observed the problem occurring when I just close
one of the browsers & before I've even had a chance
to switch focus to the browser I want to work in
next.  It traps & closes all the remaining browser
windows.

The last time I noticed this, it seemed like the next
browser window I was going to work in had this one
stupid ad in it with an animated arrow, a salt
shaker, & a fish swimming through the salt cloud.  I
saw the trap more than once on the window with this
ad in it so it stuck in my mind.  Trouble is, like I
say, the ads seem to be generated by some formula &
you don't always get the same ads.  Not all the ads
seem to cause trouble.  And since I've disabled that
stuff, I haven't seen any traps.

However, when I get a few browsers stacked up, I do
see the 100% CPU & data transmission stalls until I
switch focus away from all the browsers.

Now, these are PROCEDURAL descriptions that should be
easy enough to replicate no matter what version of
the product you're running.  Obviously, in order to
get things loaded up, you have to be using a slow
connection over a modem.  If you're on a fast leased
line, fractional T1 or some such, you won't get the
concurrency.  Each browser window will load its page
so fast they won't be competing.  You want the
windows to be competing, which means you need each
one to be demanding its page simultaneously, which
means you have to be on a modem connection, and not
too fast a modem connection, either.

I guess there's 2 problems: the trap, the stalled
data transmission.  But the recreation of both is the
same: multiple browser windows.  I have often gone
back & surfed to the exact same pages but in just a
single browser instantiation & the pages all come in
fine.  So it's not simply something about the HTML or
even the images or applets.  It's about
multithreading.

Now, I have been able to stall the data transmission
pretty easily with just a single browser window, but
it's more pronounced with multiple windows.

So why don't I install the beta?  I'm not prepared to
do that level of testing & possible system recovery.
I also hope that when 4.61 comes out in GA that I
don't have to uninstall anything.  I hope the 4.61
installer automatically undoes or removes whatever is
necessary itself, without my manual intervention.  I
don't want to have to uninstall anything myself.

WW
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From: wwilly@one.net                                    31-Aug-99 15:53:21
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 14:56:02
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <7qgsoq$p5h$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
wrote:
> In article <37CB1C42.B5642475@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>,
>   "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>
wrote:
> >
> > Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
        <<<snip>>>
> My trap showed CS:EIP=005b:003ca3ee but our buddy
> Mr. FEEB posted CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb.  I don't know
> what he's running but I'm at W4, FP11, MPTS
> WR08620, Peer IP08412, Java 1.1.8.
        <<<snip>>>

I just noticed another crucial difference.  Mr. FEEB
is saying his trap occurred in PMMERGE.DLL.  My trap
info shows NETSCAPE.EXE as the culprit.

WW
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From: mckinnis@ibm.net                                  31-Aug-99 10:08:16
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 14:56:02
Subj: Re: How to back-out of MPTS 86xx?

From: Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net>

You should be able to install 8423 (it is a refresh) and apply 8424. The
8423 install will complain about backleveling MPTS, but it is what you
want to happen.  Apply the latest 4.xx TCP/IP stack fixes (the MPTS
fixes may dance on some TCP/IP code).

David Kunz wrote:
> 
> I've read in several places that the MPTS fixpaks 8610 and 8620 are
> really buggy and that I should have stayed at at 8421, 8423, 8424.
> I'm experiencing some problems and would like to go back to see if
> they go away. I don't have a backup that goes back that far that I
> want to live with.  Is there any way to go back to the 84xx versions
> without reinstalling or restoring the boot disk from backup?
> 
> --
> David Kunz
> Operator Error... Replace operator and hit any key to continue.

-- 
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    31-Aug-99 16:57:29
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 16:34:24
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <7qgtq1$q1p$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
wrote:
> In article <7qgsoq$p5h$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>   Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>
> wrote:
> > In article <37CB1C42.B5642475@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>,
> >   "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
          <<<snip>>>

I've been claiming these are not new issues.  That's
just been a bald claim.  Here's some facts gleaned
from searches at Deja News.

On June 4, 1999, Felix Miata started a thread
entitled "Netscape Perpetually 'Waiting for reply . .
.'" that ran for 18 entries, including posts from
such as Tim Martin, Alan Boritz, Bill Ziegler, & Will
Honea in addition to me.

But if you really want to go back, on February 14,
1999, I started a thread entitled "2/12/99
Communicator 4.04 + Multithreading" that ran for 9
entries, including posts from Brad Barclay, Glenn
Strazds, Ivan Adzhubei, Mike Ruskai, Jerry McBride,
Dan Casey, & Jack Troughton.  February 14, Jeff.
Practically the day the current GA Communicator was
released.  This stalling problem was also debated on
several other threads, as I recall.  I just don't
want to spend any MORE time hunting them down.  I'm
not the one writing Communicator code.

While I was rummaging around, I also stumbled across
POPUPLOG.OS2 screens that are exactly the same
SYS3175s that we're discussing again this week.
There's been a steady stream of them reported going
all the way back to last September, I believe.  They
seem to all have this part in common:

DS=0053
ES=0053
FS=150b

I have no idea how to interpret trap screens, but
surely this repeated pattern points to something.

Jeff, I'm not bitching about lack of response,
necessity of reporting through channels, speed of
resolution, or any of that.  At least, I won't if I
can get simple acknowledgement that, "Oh yeah.  It's
a problem.  I've duplicated it."  All us folks out
here are seeing it.  We are not hallucinating.
Reporting it through channels or not makes no
difference to the FACT that the bug exists.  And we
don't have to report it through channels now since
you obviously have been told enough that you should
be able to recreate it.  If you can't, well, I'd be
awfully surprised.  If the solution doesn't make it
into 4.61, well, that would be a shame but I could
live with getting the solution via some Fix Pack for
4.61 at some later time.  I want you to see the
problem & accept it, then work on it for however long
you have to.  I am perhaps stretching to say I speak
for others, maybe many others.

And I don't want you to read any anger or annoyance
into what I'm writing here, Jeff.  OS/2 has quite
enough problems, technical & otherwise.  I am not
trying to add to the problems.  I'm trying to be part
of the solution.

WW
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From: micp@online.no                                    30-Aug-99 22:59:24
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 16:34:24
Subj: Re: SmartSiute 1.0

From: "Michael Pedersen" <micp@online.no>

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:07:33 -0400 (EDT), Jim Goffena wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:30:38 +0200, Michael Pedersen wrote:
>
>:>I Have a problem intalling SmartSuite 1.0 on OS2 Warp 4.0 FP11, get the
error
>:>message complaining about not having the right FixPak. Can enyone help me
>:>with this ?
>:>
>:>
>
>If your using a cmd.exe replacement such as 4os2, you will get that message. 
>So make sure you are in a cmd shell when executing the installer.
>
Dosen't help, still gett the error message.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                31-Aug-99 16:03:12
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 20:08:13
Subj: Re: SmartSiute 1.0

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

"Michael Pedersen" <micp@online.no> said:

>>:>I Have a problem intalling SmartSuite 1.0 on OS2 Warp 4.0 FP11, get the
error
>>:>message complaining about not having the right FixPak. Can enyone help me
>>:>with this ?

>>If your using a cmd.exe replacement such as 4os2, you will get that message. 

>>So make sure you are in a cmd shell when executing the installer.

>Dosen't help, still gett the error message.

Wasn't that the thing where rather than fix SW they put out a special
fix just to run it and put it on the SW disk, and any other FP would
crash it?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: nospam@neverland.com                              31-Aug-99 16:28:16
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 21:19:21
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: "FEEB" <nospam@neverland.com>

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:02:11 -0500, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

>Unfortunately, those are traps in the base operating system
>(PMMERGE.DLL is the heart of Presentation Manager, which
>is the Window Management subsystem of OS/2), so there would
>be no way for me to know why it is happening without being able
>to debug it directly.  You say it is intermittent, but what are you
>doing when it happens?
>
>Jeff
>

It happened here 4 times since the Beta2.  All traps were identical.  It 
did not depend on a particular WebPage, nor on any particular operation.  
Usually it happens when clicking on a link while the original page is still 
being loaded.  In other words, when browsing in a hurry.

>
>FEEB wrote:
>
>> Intermittent SYS3175's with NS 4.61 B2:
>>
>> 08-26-1999  08:11:21  SYS3175  PID 00e6  TID 0001  Slot 00de
>> E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>> c0000005
>> 1be2f6eb
>> P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
>> EAX=00000000  EBX=007c650c  ECX=69737265  EDX=13e8afa0
>> ESI=007c58e8  EDI=17a578ec
>> DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>> ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>> FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>> GS=08bb  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
>> CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>> SS:ESP=0053:007c58d0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
>> EBP=007c58f0  FLG=00012202
>>
>> PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0012f6eb
>

Frank Bures, fbures@chem.toronto.edu (use this address for replies)
http://frank.chem.utoronto.ca/electronics
Warning: Received flame-mail will be reposted on the UseNet in full



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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     31-Aug-99 06:18:14
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 21:19:21
Subj: Re: Netscape Communicator for OS/2 4.04 Fix Pack XR_1404

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

hamei@pacbell.net wrote:

> Excuse me for butting in, but I've never seen anywhere to properly
> report problems to IBM. Could you do the many of us who have
> some system problems a favour and post exactly what *is* the correct
> way to attract IBM's attention to os/2 failures ?

http://www.software.ibm.com/os/warp/support/

On this page, there are many areas to get information and assistance
with IBM software products, including OS/2.  If you then click on "IBM
Support Site", you'll links at the bottom of the page for registered
customers to submit problem reports.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team



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From: jstotz@canoemail.com                              31-Aug-99 17:12:14
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 10:43:23
Subj: Visualage C++ and Warp4F11

From: James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com>

I was just going through the basic introduction to visualage c++, and
there are instructions to compile and run a simple program oview.cpp.
This is just a basic put words on the screen program.

But, during the compile I get 5 sys0039 errors.  This points to my SCSI
Zip drive.

Anybody know why this happens or how to fix it.  Something to report to
IBM?

Thankx,

James Stotz
Simon Fraser University

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From: fmaskus@spamcop.net                               31-Aug-99 19:32:05
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 10:43:24
Subj: Re: HTML Preformatted text problem

From: Frank <fmaskus@spamcop.net>

Gordon Nilsen wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:33:12, Frank <fmaskus@spamcop.net> wrote:
> 
> > I am baffeled with this problem of pre formatted text in a web page
> > showing up very differently in NS 2.02 and the new communicator 4.61
> > Beta.
> >
> > I posted a sample html at:
> >  http.www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/fob_text.htm
> >
> > Near the top I added a scale of numbers 1 through 50 appearing across
> > the screen. Directly below that is the formatted text that appears much
> > different in the two browsers. I have a feeling it is a problem with the
> > new communicator.
> >
> > Using NETS 2.02 the preformatted text starts at 3 and end at 47, and
> > looks quite as intended.
> > In Communicator the text starts at about 2 1/2 and ends at 33, entirely
> > too small. I don't see why the great difference between the two
> > browsers. (all my font sizes are set to 10 in my browsers)
> >
> > Someone else check this out please, and post or e-mail findings or any
> > advice.
> >
> > Thanks, Frank.
> >
> > --
> > * Frank Maskus  8832 N Syracuse #716  Portland, Oregon 97203  *
> > *        Homepage: http://www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/          *
> > *                                                             *
> > *             An oxymoron: Knowledgeable AOLers               *
> 
> I checked the page with both 2.02 & 4.61 of nav, and found they are
> the same.
>

One question? Are all your fonts in both set to 10?

Frank.

-- 
* Frank Maskus  8832 N Syracuse #716  Portland, Oregon 97203  *
*        Homepage: http://www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/          *
*                                                             *
*             An oxymoron: Knowledgeable AOLers               *

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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     01-Sep-99 03:40:25
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 14:27:05
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

What OS/2 fixpack are you running?

FEEB wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:02:11 -0500, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:
>
> >Unfortunately, those are traps in the base operating system
> >(PMMERGE.DLL is the heart of Presentation Manager, which
> >is the Window Management subsystem of OS/2), so there would
> >be no way for me to know why it is happening without being able
> >to debug it directly.  You say it is intermittent, but what are you
> >doing when it happens?
> >
> >Jeff
> >
>
> It happened here 4 times since the Beta2.  All traps were identical.  It
> did not depend on a particular WebPage, nor on any particular operation.
> Usually it happens when clicking on a link while the original page is still
> being loaded.  In other words, when browsing in a hurry.
>
> >
> >FEEB wrote:
> >
> >> Intermittent SYS3175's with NS 4.61 B2:
> >>
> >> 08-26-1999  08:11:21  SYS3175  PID 00e6  TID 0001  Slot 00de
> >> E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> >> c0000005
> >> 1be2f6eb
> >> P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
> >> EAX=00000000  EBX=007c650c  ECX=69737265  EDX=13e8afa0
> >> ESI=007c58e8  EDI=17a578ec
> >> DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
> >> ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
> >> FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> >> GS=08bb  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
> >> CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> >> SS:ESP=0053:007c58d0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
> >> EBP=007c58f0  FLG=00012202
> >>
> >> PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0012f6eb

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: duanec@eyebm.net                                  31-Aug-99 23:58:08
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 14:27:06
Subj: Re: How to back-out of MPTS 86xx?

From: "Duane A. Chamblee" <duanec@eyebm.net>

You may be able to install 8423 over the 86xx stuff, but I wouldn't recommend
it.
There are some files that are relocated with the new "stacks"

If you remove IBMCOM and MPTN, and their references in the CONFIG.SYS. You
should be able to install 8423 fine.

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:58:55 GMT, David Kunz wrote:
>I've read in several places that the MPTS fixpaks 8610 and 8620 are
>really buggy and that I should have stayed at at 8421, 8423, 8424.
>I'm experiencing some problems and would like to go back to see if
>they go away. I don't have a backup that goes back that far that I
>want to live with.  Is there any way to go back to the 84xx versions
>without reinstalling or restoring the boot disk from backup?

--------------------------------------
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From: aboritz@cybernex.net                              31-Aug-99 22:43:21
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 14:27:06
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz)

In article <soherfpurzgbebagbrqh.fha6k90.pminews@news1.chem.utoronto.ca>,
"FEEB" <nospam@neverland.com> wrote:
>Intermittent SYS3175's with NS 4.61 B2:
>
>08-26-1999  08:11:21  SYS3175  PID 00e6  TID 0001  Slot 00de
>E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>c0000005
>1be2f6eb
>P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
>EAX=00000000  EBX=007c650c  ECX=69737265  EDX=13e8afa0
>ESI=007c58e8  EDI=17a578ec
>DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>GS=08bb  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
>CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>SS:ESP=0053:007c58d0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
>EBP=007c58f0  FLG=00012202
>
>PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0012f6eb
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>
>08-30-1999  09:42:08  SYS3175  PID 0052  TID 0001  Slot 00d0
>E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>c0000005
>1be2f6eb
>P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
>EAX=00000000  EBX=17a71c1c  ECX=00010052  EDX=13e8afa0
>ESI=17a841e0  EDI=17a71c38
>DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>GS=08bb  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
>CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>SS:ESP=0053:007c5824  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff

Same problem here, but it looks like it only happened once since playing with
the first beta:

07-23-1999  23:04:22  SYS3175  PID 0045  TID 0001  Slot 0051
F:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1dc2146f
P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=33313a43  EBX=005885f4  ECX=00010045  EDX=13e8afa0
ESI=00000001  EDI=00000000
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1dc2146f  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00686af4  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00686b08  FLG=00012202

NPFI.DLL 0001:0001146f

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     01-Sep-99 04:22:21
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 14:27:06
Subj: Re: DB2 6.1 problems with JFS

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

I tried the new JFS.IFS and it conflicted with several other
device drivers and I could never get it to boot. As soon
as I rem'ed out one device driver it would hang on another.
I F2'ed the system during boot the first thing that hung it
surprised me DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETSK.SYS.
I got past that one by rem'ing out the \MPTN drivers then
it hung again. I gave up the pursuit when a twenty hour day
caught up with me.

Good Luck, I'll try back later.


"Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:35:09 -0600, Robert Marcano wrote:
>
> >Where can I find those OS/2 fixes..... I searched the OS/2 support page
> >"fixpacks by APAR number" but I haven't found it
> We should have a new JFS available today or tomorrow.  Keep an eye on the
NCS
> Support News Items.

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From: Ken@ibm.net                                       31-Aug-99 21:37:29
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 14:27:06
Subj: Comm 4.61

From: "Ken" <Ken@ibm.net>

Has anybody had trouble creating a folder under the inbox? When I try to
create a "read" folder, Communicator crashes. Any ideas?

Thanks


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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     01-Sep-99 04:44:05
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:18
Subj: Re: HTML Preformatted text problem

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

Frank wrote:

> > > Using NETS 2.02 the preformatted text starts at 3 and end at 47, and
> > > looks quite as intended.
> > > In Communicator the text starts at about 2 1/2 and ends at 33, entirely
> > > too small. I don't see why the great difference between the two
> > > browsers. (all my font sizes are set to 10 in my browsers)
> > >
> > > Someone else check this out please, and post or e-mail findings or any
> > > advice.

The text within the <PRE> delimiter will use your "Fixed Width"
font, whereas the rest will use your "Variable Width" font.  Even
if the point sizes are the size, the font widths won't necessarily
correspond; in fact, they almost always WON'T.  "Variable Width"
means exactly that: the width of each character varies from
character to character.  In addition, "point size" is mainly a
statement of height; the width of characters may be different
between fonts with the same point size.

Also, in your HTML, you have <FONT SIZE=2> before your
<PRE> tag, which will change the size of the preformatted text.

Are you using the same Variable Width font in 2.02 and 4.61?

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com                     01-Sep-99 05:57:26
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:18
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>

That's not the same problem.  Entries in POPUPLOG.OS2
can come from any part of any program you are running,
for several different kinds of failures.  Even if they come
from the same process (NETSCAPE.EXE), the failure could
be in vastly different places, including areas that are not
a part of the application (such as base OS code or other
application modules loaded on that process).

The trap you posted was not in PMMERGE (as FEEB had
posted), but in NPFI.DLL, which is part of Feature Install.
I'd guess the exception occured when you installed Java.


Alan Boritz wrote:

> In article <soherfpurzgbebagbrqh.fha6k90.pminews@news1.chem.utoronto.ca>,
"FEEB" <nospam@neverland.com> wrote:
> >Intermittent SYS3175's with NS 4.61 B2:
> >
> >08-26-1999  08:11:21  SYS3175  PID 00e6  TID 0001  Slot 00de
> >E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> >c0000005
> >1be2f6eb
> >[snip]
> >
> >PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0012f6eb
>
> Same problem here, but it looks like it only happened once since playing
with
> the first beta:
>
> 07-23-1999  23:04:22  SYS3175  PID 0045  TID 0001  Slot 0051
> F:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> c0000005
> 1dc2146f
> [snip]
>
> NPFI.DLL 0001:0001146f

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: dwparsons@t-online.de                             01-Sep-99 08:33:10
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: How to back-out of MPTS 86xx?

From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)

David,

I don't know whether you saw the following snippet from Brian Morrison
but it might be of interest to you.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to Ivan Adzhubei (did I spell that right? Probably not!) I have
discovered how to stop the Trap 0002 screen I got when trying to run
any Java application.
 
If you have the standard Warp 4 TCPIP stack, version 4.02<something>
then attempting to install the WR08610 fix pack screws up things badly.
After re-installing WR08423 and WR08424, giving version 4.02w, I got
these traps. Turns out that the culprit was having the TCPIP32.DLL from
WR08610 in the same directory as TCP32DLL.DLL from the 4.02 stack.
Deleting the TCPIP32.DLL file cured the problem.
------------------------------------------------------------------- 


On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:08:33, Chuck McKinnis <mckinnis@ibm.net> wrote:

> You should be able to install 8423 (it is a refresh) and apply 8424. The
> 8423 install will complain about backleveling MPTS, but it is what you
> want to happen.  Apply the latest 4.xx TCP/IP stack fixes (the MPTS
> fixes may dance on some TCP/IP code).
> 
> David Kunz wrote:
> > 
> > I've read in several places that the MPTS fixpaks 8610 and 8620 are
> > really buggy and that I should have stayed at at 8421, 8423, 8424.
> > I'm experiencing some problems and would like to go back to see if
> > they go away. I don't have a backup that goes back that far that I
> > want to live with.  Is there any way to go back to the 84xx versions
> > without reinstalling or restoring the boot disk from backup?
> > 
> > --
> > David Kunz
> > Operator Error... Replace operator and hit any key to continue.
> 
> -- 
> Chuck McKinnis
> Senior Systems Engineer
> Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
> IBM Business Partner
> IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)


-- 
Dave

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From: fmaskus@spamcop.net                               01-Sep-99 01:54:17
  To: james.w.maskus@exgate.tek.com                     01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: HTML Preformatted text problem

To: james.w.maskus@exgate.tek.com
From: Frank <fmaskus@spamcop.net>

Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:
> 
> Frank wrote:
> 
> > > > Using NETS 2.02 the preformatted text starts at 3 and end at 47, and
> > > > looks quite as intended.
> > > > In Communicator the text starts at about 2 1/2 and ends at 33,
entirely
> > > > too small. I don't see why the great difference between the two
> > > > browsers. (all my font sizes are set to 10 in my browsers)
> > > >
> > > > Someone else check this out please, and post or e-mail findings or any
> > > > advice.
> 
> The text within the <PRE> delimiter will use your "Fixed Width"
> font, whereas the rest will use your "Variable Width" font.  Even
> if the point sizes are the size, the font widths won't necessarily
> correspond; in fact, they almost always WON'T.  "Variable Width"
> means exactly that: the width of each character varies from
> character to character.  In addition, "point size" is mainly a
> statement of height; the width of characters may be different
> between fonts with the same point size.
> 
> Also, in your HTML, you have <FONT SIZE=2> before your
> <PRE> tag, which will change the size of the preformatted text.
> 
> Are you using the same Variable Width font in 2.02 and 4.61?
>

2.02 uses Latin1, 4.61 uses Western.......

I removed the <FONT SIZE> and let it default to what I expect is 3.

I don't understand the connection with the variable width font, as <PRE>
text should default to Courier (I think).

Look at the following in both browsers and note the difference in the
pre-formatted text:

http://www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/test.html

> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

Thanks for the reply, Frank.

-- 
* Frank Maskus  8832 N Syracuse #716  Portland, Oregon 97203  *
*        Homepage: http://www.pacifier.com/~fmaskus/          *
*                                                             *
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From: davek@clark.net                                   01-Sep-99 09:05:09
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: How to back-out of MPTS 86xx?

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

Ouch...  I was hoping to avoid that.  It took me quite a bit of
experimenting to get it all working (I'm hooked to an NT network) and
I'm afraid that I've forgotten some "insignificant", but necessary
step :(.  Also, I thought a selective reinstall of "File & Print
Sharing" had major problems with line lengths in config.sys?...

If that's my only option, I guess that I'll wait and hope for another
refresh...

Thanks for replying!

Duane A. Chamblee (duanec@eyebm.net) wrote:                           

: You may be able to install 8423 over the 86xx stuff, but I wouldn't 
: recommend it. There are some files that are relocated with the new 
: "stacks"                                                            

: If you remove IBMCOM and MPTN, and their references in the 
: CONFIG.SYS. You should be able to install 8423 fine.                

: On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:58:55 GMT, David Kunz wrote:                 

: >I've read in several places that the MPTS fixpaks 8610 and 8620 
: >are really buggy and that I should have stayed at at 8421, 8423, 
: >8424. I'm experiencing some problems and would like to go back to 
: >see if they go away. I don't have a backup that goes back that far 
: >that I want to live with.  Is there any way to go back to the 84xx 
: >versions without reinstalling or restoring the boot disk from 
: >backup?                                                            

: -------------------------------------- Change the eye to an i when 
: you reply!                                                          

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: hwhunsr@c-tronic.de                               01-Sep-99 10:52:04
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: DB2 6.1 problems with JFS

From: "H.-W. Hunsaenger" <hwhunsr@c-tronic.de>

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Hello Mr. Marcano,

do you have no problems with db2 6.1 on warp server for eb ?
I try to install db2 with TCP-Support and it does not work, it say no tcp
installed, but tcp is properly installed on the machine ?

best regards



Robert Marcano wrote:

> DB2 6.1 has a problem when using JFS (DB2 release notes says that).
> Someone in a DB2 newsgroup gots this help for me
>  -------------------------------
> APAR= II11878
> USING DB2 UDB AND OS/2 JFS FILESYSTEM REQUIRES OS/2 APAR PJ26494
> AS WELL AS OS/2 APAR PJ26538
> ERROR DESCRIPTION:
> DB2 UDB fails when using OS/2 JFS Filesystem due to incorrect
> data being written to/read from disk (all 0's).  This appears
> to only occur when using JFS and a JFS cache size of 1024 (using
> a cache size of 16358 does not reproduce the problem).
> .
> This is an OS/2 JFS problem fixed by APAR PJ26494.
> LOCAL FIX:
> Using a JFS cache size of 16538 has shown to resolve the problem
> .
> Install OS/2 APAR PJ26494.
>
> RATIONALE: INFOR ITEM
> Ensure that fixes for both OS/2 apars, PJ26494 and
> PJ26538, are installed in order to resolve 2 OS/2 JFS
> corruption problems.
> --------------------------
>
> Where can I find those OS/2 fixes..... I searched the OS/2 support page
> "fixpacks by APAR number" but I haven't found it
>
> TIA

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From: msmanju@mindless.com                              01-Sep-99 14:52:00
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: manju <msmanju@mindless.com>

Hi
  Can you give the netstat -m output ?

Manju

Sacha Prins wrote:

>  Dear people,
>
> I'm desperate. I'm experiencing TCPIP bugs for over 4 months now and
> no-one seems te be able to help me. I've purchased an IBM supportline
> contract to no avail (yet, after 4 months). The problems are as
> folows:
>
>    * MPTS8610 : I'm experiencing some kind of memory leak problem
>      where MBUFs allocated from free clusters (see 'netstat -m')
>      aren't freed anymore. This leads to an unusable system after so
>      many days (depending on the load on the machine). I run a Java
>      HTTPD in OS/2's JVM 1.1.7. I can't remember having these problems
>      with Lotus Go, but I did have similar problems with Xitami and
>      Apache. This problem is killing me softly since my servers stop
>      functioning properly every 3 to 4 days. This is not helping my
>      business at all.
>    * MPTS8620 : Same memory leak problem as 8610, but a new DNS
>      resolution problem is introduced here. Every now and then
>      applications will stop resolving host names (i.e. DNS queries
>      fail) until those programs are restarted. I've experienced the
>      problem with InetMail and Netscape so far. Netscape I don't care
>      about, but InetMail I do. When InetMail cannot query DNS anymore
>      all mail that is relayed through InetMail is queued indefinitely,
>      or until I restart InetMail.
>
> Please, please, pretty please with sugar on top. If anyone from IBM is
> reading this, or if anyone else that can help me is reading this I'll
> name my first born after you if you actually do help me.
>
> I'll scan these newsgroups every hour, but you can also mail me at
> sprins@businessnet.net
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Sacha Prins
>

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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                01-Sep-99 12:54:07
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: SmartSiute 1.0

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>

> :>I Have a problem intalling SmartSuite 1.0 on OS2 Warp 4.0 FP11, get the
error
> :>message complaining about not having the right FixPak.

The 'right' fixpack is # 6. I hope you can backout of # 11 and then run # 6.
The easiest way handling fixpacks is to use SimplyFix from the Italian Team
OS/2.
Look for my next reply to this thread (retrieving html address).
<begin rant>
't is funny how these programmers do their thing: I guess complaining about
not the
'right' fixpack is clearer than saying 'fixpack 6'. One guesses that's why one
hates the guts of setup-programs. We can learn from linux in that respect.
Also, why the hell does it want # 6 only ? The later fixpacks are not good
enough ?
It leaves one puzzled.
<end rant>

> If your using a cmd.exe replacement such as 4os2, you will get that message.

Not IMHO, I had the above problem on a freshly installed OS/2 4.0.

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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk                01-Sep-99 13:33:10
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: SmartSiute 1.0

From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>

SimplyFix 4 is freeware (postcard-ware to be precise)
http://delenda.biella.alpcom.it/zamprogno/

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From: msmanju@mindless.com                              01-Sep-99 17:57:05
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: Begging for help with either MPTS8610 or MPTS8620

From: manju <msmanju@mindless.com>

Also netstat -r output

manju wrote:

> Hi
>   Can you give the netstat -m output ?
>
> Manju
>
> Sacha Prins wrote:
>
> >  Dear people,
> >
> > I'm desperate. I'm experiencing TCPIP bugs for over 4 months now and
> > no-one seems te be able to help me. I've purchased an IBM supportline
> > contract to no avail (yet, after 4 months). The problems are as
> > folows:
> >
> >    * MPTS8610 : I'm experiencing some kind of memory leak problem
> >      where MBUFs allocated from free clusters (see 'netstat -m')
> >      aren't freed anymore. This leads to an unusable system after so
> >      many days (depending on the load on the machine). I run a Java
> >      HTTPD in OS/2's JVM 1.1.7. I can't remember having these problems
> >      with Lotus Go, but I did have similar problems with Xitami and
> >      Apache. This problem is killing me softly since my servers stop
> >      functioning properly every 3 to 4 days. This is not helping my
> >      business at all.
> >    * MPTS8620 : Same memory leak problem as 8610, but a new DNS
> >      resolution problem is introduced here. Every now and then
> >      applications will stop resolving host names (i.e. DNS queries
> >      fail) until those programs are restarted. I've experienced the
> >      problem with InetMail and Netscape so far. Netscape I don't care
> >      about, but InetMail I do. When InetMail cannot query DNS anymore
> >      all mail that is relayed through InetMail is queued indefinitely,
> >      or until I restart InetMail.
> >
> > Please, please, pretty please with sugar on top. If anyone from IBM is
> > reading this, or if anyone else that can help me is reading this I'll
> > name my first born after you if you actually do help me.
> >
> > I'll scan these newsgroups every hour, but you can also mail me at
> > sprins@businessnet.net
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Sacha Prins
> >

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From: duanec@eyebm.net                                  01-Sep-99 09:05:27
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: How to back-out of MPTS 86xx?

From: "Duane A. Chamblee" <duanec@eyebm.net>

On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:05:19 GMT, David Kunz wrote:

>Ouch...  I was hoping to avoid that.  It took me quite a bit of
>experimenting to get it all working (I'm hooked to an NT network) and
>I'm afraid that I've forgotten some "insignificant", but necessary
>step :(.  Also, I thought a selective reinstall of "File & Print
>Sharing" had major problems with line lengths in config.sys?...

Other than getting some errors on reboot (after removing MPTS/IBMCOM) the
peer client shouldn't have to be reinstalled. After reinstalling an MPTS(and
adding the protocol you use for peer), Peer should work.

Peer is in the IBMLAN and MUGLIB directories.

>If that's my only option, I guess that I'll wait and hope for another
>refresh...

The 32bit stack can work fine. Make sure you...

 a) take out the route add -net ... statement in the MPTN\BIN\SETUP.CMD
    (it's not necessary)
 b) you probably want to add a "-netmask x.x.x.x" to the "route add default"
line.
    (the netmask depends on your "local" network scheme, usually
255.255.255.0)

--------------------------------------
Change the eye to an i when you reply!


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From: robmv@ibm.net                                     01-Sep-99 10:14:19
  To: hwhunsr@c-tronic.de                               01-Sep-99 17:47:19
Subj: Re: DB2 6.1 problems with JFS

To: "H.-W. Hunsaenger" <hwhunsr@c-tronic.de>
From: Robert Marcano <robmv@ibm.net>

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I haven't installed it yet, I was doing migration planning. Now that there is
a fix for JFS, I will install it.

About your problem, I have experienced that with DB2 5.2 when I installed
TCPIP 4.2 (comes with Workspace on Demand). The Warp Server for eb comes with
4.1 version, I don't know if that is the problem. DB2 6.1 detected tcpip 4.2
in my laptop with Warp 4 fixpak 9.

There is a way to install TCPIP support by hand, it is in one of the
installation books,

summary, configure DB2COMM=TCPIP for your instance, update "services" file
found in the dir set by the enviroment variable ETC (use "set ETC" to see
it), update the instance variables for the tcpip services to use (db2 update
cfg.......)

I you need help searching the full information, tell me and i will search on
the books too.


"H.-W. Hunsaenger" wrote:

> Hello Mr. Marcano,
>
> do you have no problems with db2 6.1 on warp server for eb ?
> I try to install db2 with TCP-Support and it does not work, it say no tcp
> installed, but tcp is properly installed on the machine ?
>
> best regards
>

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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          01-Sep-99 14:33:12
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:20
Subj: NS Beta-2 items needing attention.

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

Regarding the latest beta,

1. Still have the Page Two printing problem. First page prints fine, pages 
after that are sort of magnified about 2x.

2. Weird formatting on a Java page at:

http://dynamic.nasdaq-amex.com/dynamic/majorindices_java.stm

The "Major Indices" applet runs off at left and right. I guess this is a 
Java problem?


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: j1hamilton@aol.com                                01-Sep-99 15:29:10
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:20
Subj: Re: OS/2 Security Enabling Services

From: j1hamilton@aol.com (J1Hamilton)

Scott,

     This DOS for Dummy thanks you for your information. I D/L the utility and
it was infact MOUSE.SYS that was causing the trap.
     I had installed the new Device Driver Pack and this is the MOUSE.SYS that
is creating the trap. (MOUSE.SYS, 23,513, dtd. 07-12-99). I replaced it with
the archived version and all is well (MOUSE.SYS, 19,587, dtd. 07-24-98).
     Thanks again for the help. It is REALLY refreshing to find someone who
treats a question as a request for help from someone of possibly less
experience, and who attempts to aid that person instead of responding with the
typical RTFM that I see so often. Those folks need to remember that we ALL had
to start somewhere. Thanks again!!
                               Jerry Hamilton

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           01-Sep-99 17:42:26
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:20
Subj: Re: Alternatives to Netscape

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:29:13, Paul John Petrie-Repar 
<Paul@sigra.com.au> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have given up on Netscape for OS/2
> Yesterday I downloaded Netscape 4.61 beta, Java 1.1.8, and Fixpack11.
> After installing all this, I still have the same old problems:
> (i) some of the text in not displayed,
> (ii) scrolling sometimes does not work, and
> (iii) I cannot do my internet banking (I suspect this is a java
> problem).
> None of these problem occur when I run netscape under Linux.
> 
> Can anyone please suggest alternative Web browsers for OS/2?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Paul Petrie-Repar
> 

Check out http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html for possible
help, or more information.

The banking thing, is probably, a mismatch in the length of the ID 
sent to the server. "OS/2" has one less letter than "WIN9x", or 
"Linux", which makes the security checkers look at the wrong thing 
when they check for the security capabilities of the browser (just 
poor programing on the part of the bank, not on the part of OS/2, or 
Netscape). One bank (CIBC, in Canada), has that problem (and, they 
refuse to fix it), but the "trick" is to find out what the web page is
that it takes you to, if the check is successful (it has some numbers 
and equal signs. Use a Windows system to find out what it is), and go 
directly to that (if you can. This works with CIBC, YMMV).

I have tried a couple of other web browsers. The only other one, that 
I have found, that has 128 bit encryption, is StarOffice, but that 
seems to be a different kind of 128 bit encryption (go to 
http://www.fortify.net and click on the thing, near the bottom of the 
page, that has "SSL" in it, to check your security level), and it 
won't work with my bank. Perhaps, it is worth a try with your bank.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net                           01-Sep-99 17:42:27
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 17:47:20
Subj: Re: SmartSiute 1.0

From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:59:49, "Michael Pedersen" <micp@online.no> 
wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:07:33 -0400 (EDT), Jim Goffena wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:30:38 +0200, Michael Pedersen wrote:
> >
> >:>I Have a problem intalling SmartSuite 1.0 on OS2 Warp 4.0 FP11, get the
error
> >:>message complaining about not having the right FixPak. Can enyone help me
> >:>with this ?
> >:>
> >:>
> >
> >If your using a cmd.exe replacement such as 4os2, you will get that
message. 
> >So make sure you are in a cmd shell when executing the installer.
> >
> Dosen't help, still gett the error message.
> 

Interesting. I just removed, and reinstalled, Lotus SS 1.0, with FP11 
(which seems to cause some weird problem with sorting in Approach, but
that is another matter). There were no complaints about FP levels.

Note that FP11, apparently, does NOT have all of the device driver 
updates. Perhaps that is what is tripping you up. You could try 
installing the new Device driver fix pack 
(ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/) to see if 
that helps (this should not be required, if you have installed FP9, or
10).

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                01-Sep-99 14:42:17
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 19:58:09
Subj: Re: Alternatives to Netscape

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) said:

>> I have given up on Netscape for OS/2
>> Yesterday I downloaded Netscape 4.61 beta, Java 1.1.8, and Fixpack11.
>> After installing all this, I still have the same old problems:

>> Can anyone please suggest alternative Web browsers for OS/2?

>Check out http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html for
>possible help, or more information.

Check out the idea of not using a beta to solve all your problems.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: jiclbch@ibm.net                                   01-Sep-99 15:02:29
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 19:58:09
Subj: I cannot deregister any WPS class!!!! Please Help!!!!

From: Juan I. Cahis <jiclbch@ibm.net>

Dear Friends:

I have discovered that I cannot deregister any WPS class, either using
UNIMAINT or a Rexx program. As a matter of fact, I discovered it
trying to deregister ACSAGENT.DLL in order to be able to install an
UNIMAINT update. Simply, the system crashes.

One year ago, the last time that I did it, I didn't have any problem,
however.

Now, I use Warp 3.0 with FP 40.

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Email: jiclbch@ibm.net.nospam jiclbch@reuna.cl.nospam
To send me Email, please remove ".nospam" from my Email address
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

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From: cmhall@umich.edu                                  01-Sep-99 19:15:23
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 19:58:09
Subj: NS 4.04 Sys3175

From: cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall)

I get the following when trying to access www.dell.com. Any (useful)
suggestions?
NS 4.04, Java 1.18, Warp 4 FP11

09-01-1999  15:14:32  SYS3175  PID 01a1  TID 0001  Slot 00d5
I:\NETSCOMM\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
0025c462
P1=00000001  P2=00000001  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000000  EBX=013e6d30  ECX=0152d8c0  EDX=014b2d10
ESI=014eaa70  EDI=014b7870  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:0025c462  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:006869e0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00686a00  FLG=00013246

NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:0024c462




Chris Hall  (cmhall@umich.edu)
Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan
"They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results
they expect, sometimes they don't."   from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.


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From: jstuyck@home.com                                  01-Sep-99 20:07:09
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 21:47:10
Subj: Re: NS 4.04 Sys3175

From: Jim Stuyck <jstuyck@home.com>


Chris Hall wrote:

> I get the following when trying to access www.dell.com. Any (useful)
suggestions?
> NS 4.04, Java 1.18, Warp 4 FP11
>
> 09-01-1999  15:14:32  SYS3175  PID 01a1  TID 0001  Slot 00d5
> I:\NETSCOMM\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE

Chris,

I just tried it and did NOT have a problem.  I tell you this because I'm
also using NS 4.04, Java 1.18, Warp 4 FP11.  I suppose the message is
"it must be you, not the software configuration you cite."

Jim Stuyck

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From: jhimmel@i-2000.com                                01-Sep-99 21:56:09
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 21:47:11
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman)

On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:40:50, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" 
<murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com> wrote:

> What OS/2 fixpack are you running?

I've gotten a few SYS3175's as well. Mine say -

08-29-1999  12:26:57  SYS3175  PID 001f  TID 0002  Slot 0071
F:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
0034efde
P1=00000001  P2=00000121  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX  
EAX=00000001  EBX=00000001  ECX=00000000  EDX=00000000
ESI=00000000  EDI=01800e70  
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff  
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff  
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:0034efde  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0137ff50  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=0137ff80  FLG=00012246

NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:0033efde

I have not pinned down any pattern. Warp v4.0 FP11.

[[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]]

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From: ecmille@ibm.net                                   01-Sep-99 22:22:14
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 04:17:19
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61

From: ecmille@ibm.net (Ted Miller)

In message <xravozarg.fhcxva0.pminews@news.pacbell.net> - "Ken" <Ken@ibm.net>
writes:
:>
:>Has anybody had trouble creating a folder under the inbox? When I try to
:>create a "read" folder, Communicator crashes. Any ideas?
:>
:>Thanks
:>
:>


Hello Ken
 Just tried it now and had no problems. Running 4.61 beta2.

Ted Miller
ecmille@ibm.net

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From: rocks@nmsu.edu                                    01-Sep-99 17:35:29
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 06:35:00
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: David Rocks <rocks@nmsu.edu>

    I am getting the SYS3175 regularly when I exit netscape 4.61, beta
2. My data from the popuplog is at the bottom of this message. This is
on a newly installed WARP 4, fixpak 11, Java 1.1.8 with MPTS and TCPIP
stack at the 5.5 levels that came with Warp Server for EBiz. It is just
a nuisance right now and I don't think any serious damage is being done.
Is this the same SYS175 some people saw on the beta 1 of 4.61?

------------------------------------------------------------

09-01-1999  16:00:00  SYS3175  PID 005f  TID 0001  Slot 0080
E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
00000000
P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=026acc44  EBX=022e6b10  ECX=00677d44  EDX=00000000
ESI=00000016  EDI=022e6b10
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=087b  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
CS:EIP=005b:00000000  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c616c  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=02265150  FLG=00012206





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From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca                       02-Sep-99 05:02:26
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 10:42:04
Subj: Re: Visualage C++ and Warp4F11

From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

James Stotz (jstotz@canoemail.com) wrote:
: I was just going through the basic introduction to visualage c++, and
: there are instructions to compile and run a simple program oview.cpp.
: This is just a basic put words on the screen program.

: But, during the compile I get 5 sys0039 errors.  This points to my SCSI
: Zip drive.

: Anybody know why this happens or how to fix it.  Something to report to
: IBM?

Is this VAC++ 3.0?

I have that, with the 3.08 patches applied on Warp4+FP11
I am also following the tutorial, and it bombs out when I double-click on
a line in the debugger to get to that point in the source code. Error is
shown as access violation in IDEDASD? or something like that.

I know there's some problem with FP11+Smartsuite1.1 which affects saves.
Could this be a similar bug? 
Your SCSI ZIP drive sounds like it may fall under similar category.


Isaac

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From: news@fenrir.demon.co.uk                           01-Sep-99 08:30:08
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 10:42:04
Subj: Re: How to back-out of MPTS 86xx?

From: "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.demon.co.uk>

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:08:33 -0600, Chuck McKinnis wrote:

>You should be able to install 8423 (it is a refresh) and apply 8424. The
>8423 install will complain about backleveling MPTS, but it is what you
>want to happen.  Apply the latest 4.xx TCP/IP stack fixes (the MPTS
>fixes may dance on some TCP/IP code).
>

Then go into \mptn\dll and delete tcpip32.dll, otherwise your Java
1.1.7 and above will cause a Trap D whenever you visit a java-enabled
page.


-- 
Brian Morrison                                       news@fenrir.demon.co.uk

               to reply, change address from 'news' to 'bdm'

 ...Grim faced, cold as fishwife's fingers, he snatched from the wall
 the sickle-sharp boar tusks he used for defacing Readers' Digest....


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From: whonea@codenet.net                                02-Sep-99 00:54:23
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 10:42:04
Subj: Re: Visualage C++ and Warp4F11

From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea)

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:12:29, James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com> 
wrote:

> I was just going through the basic introduction to visualage c++, and
> there are instructions to compile and run a simple program oview.cpp.
> This is just a basic put words on the screen program.
> 
> But, during the compile I get 5 sys0039 errors.  This points to my SCSI
> Zip drive.
> 
> Anybody know why this happens or how to fix it.  Something to report to
> IBM?

I've never run into this, so I would question the environment you are 
using. Are you running VACPP 3 or 4?  Fixpak level? Why is the Zip 
drive being referenced during compile; ie. is it a temp drive or did 
you install VACPP on it?.

Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: stephen@midac.splat.spam.com.au                   02-Sep-99 18:55:18
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 15:03:08
Subj: Communicator 4.61 B2 - Unsent Mail

From: stephen@midac.splat.spam.com.au (stephen)

If I compose an email offline and then hit send (which should place it
in "unsent mail" I get a message saying "Couldn't create the folder! 
Your hard disk may be full or the folder path name may be too long."

If I then hit OK, a new Unsent Mail folder is created (but it is 
empty).

If I then close Communicator and then reload it yet another Unsent 
Mail folder is created with ??? instead of the number of message. 
Opening that folder then reveals the unsent message.

If I close Communicator and go to the mail subdirectory I have 3 
unsent mail files (together with, of course, 3 associated .snm files. 
If I then delete the 2 empty unsent files, rename the unsent file that
has the unsent message to "unsent", delete all three .snm files 
associated with these unsent files and then reload Communicator the 
genuine unsent folder will, of course show ???, but when opened will 
have the message. Going online or offline will then produce the 
expected message about about having unsent mail.

The peculiarity about my setup is that Communicator is in the 
following directory:
e:\tcpip\NETSCA46

while the user files are in the following:
d:\NETSCA46\Users\Stephen\Mail

If I send mail while online it ends up in the sent mail file OK.

Has anyone else experienced a problem with unsent mail, either with 
the user files in their default location, or with them in a different 
location?

Regards,

Stephen

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From: cmhall@umich.edu                                  02-Sep-99 13:11:11
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 15:03:08
Subj: Re: NS 4.04 Sys3175

From: cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall)

In <37CD8714.F6D1D095@home.com>, Jim Stuyck <jstuyck@home.com> writes:
>
>
>Chris Hall wrote:
>
>> I get the following when trying to access www.dell.com. Any (useful)
suggestions?
>> NS 4.04, Java 1.18, Warp 4 FP11
>>
>> 09-01-1999  15:14:32  SYS3175  PID 01a1  TID 0001  Slot 00d5
>> I:\NETSCOMM\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>
>Chris,
>
>I just tried it and did NOT have a problem.  I tell you this because I'm
>also using NS 4.04, Java 1.18, Warp 4 FP11.  I suppose the message is
>"it must be you, not the software configuration you cite."
>
>Jim Stuyck
>

Jim:

Thanks. I have fixed the problem, at least for now, by deleting my old
netscape.hst
file which had grown large and possibly corrupted for some reason. It now
loads.
I'm a bit amazed that the history file can cause a memory violation.

Chris Hall  (cmhall@umich.edu)
Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan
"They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results
they expect, sometimes they don't."   from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.


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From: jstotz@canoemail.com                              02-Sep-99 08:54:18
  To: whonea@codenet.net                                02-Sep-99 16:41:12
Subj: Re: Visualage C++ and Warp4F11

To: Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
From: James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com>

I have VACPP v3 with the newest compile fixpak on W4FP11, and I've installed
the VACPP on my harddrive.  There should absolutely be no reason as to why it
want to look at my Zip drive.  The compile proceeds correctly, though.  Could
there be a reference that during compile it scans the local drives and wants
to look at them.  The CDROM seems unaffected.... I just really don't know,
and it is very annoying.

James

Will Honea wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:12:29, James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I was just going through the basic introduction to visualage c++, and
> > there are instructions to compile and run a simple program oview.cpp.
> > This is just a basic put words on the screen program.
> >
> > But, during the compile I get 5 sys0039 errors.  This points to my SCSI
> > Zip drive.
> >
> > Anybody know why this happens or how to fix it.  Something to report to
> > IBM?
>
> I've never run into this, so I would question the environment you are
> using. Are you running VACPP 3 or 4?  Fixpak level? Why is the Zip
> drive being referenced during compile; ie. is it a temp drive or did
> you install VACPP on it?.
>
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           02-Sep-99 16:56:25
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 16:41:13
Subj: Re: Visualage C++ and Warp4F11

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

Look at ALL your config.sys statments for a refernce to the
Zip drive letter in things like SET INCLUDE, SET LIB, and
other environment variables used by the compiler. I had
an annoying thing once like this and I found a reference to
my CD-ROM drive letter. It would give me a "Drive Not Ready"
unless I had something in the CD-ROM drive

Lorne Sunley

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:54:36, James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com> wrote:

> I have VACPP v3 with the newest compile fixpak on W4FP11, and I've installed
> the VACPP on my harddrive.  There should absolutely be no reason as to why
it
> want to look at my Zip drive.  The compile proceeds correctly, though. 
Could
> there be a reference that during compile it scans the local drives and wants
> to look at them.  The CDROM seems unaffected.... I just really don't know,
> and it is very annoying.
> 
> James
> 
> Will Honea wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:12:29, James Stotz <jstotz@canoemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I was just going through the basic introduction to visualage c++, and
> > > there are instructions to compile and run a simple program oview.cpp.
> > > This is just a basic put words on the screen program.
> > >
> > > But, during the compile I get 5 sys0039 errors.  This points to my SCSI
> > > Zip drive.
> > >
> > > Anybody know why this happens or how to fix it.  Something to report to
> > > IBM?
> >
> > I've never run into this, so I would question the environment you are
> > using. Are you running VACPP 3 or 4?  Fixpak level? Why is the Zip
> > drive being referenced during compile; ie. is it a temp drive or did
> > you install VACPP on it?.
> >
> > Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
> 


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From: matthew@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca                    02-Sep-99 17:44:06
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 03:37:15
Subj: trap D ether 3c905b

From: "Matthew@psych" <matthew@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca>

I installed a 3c905b card in a ppro200 machine. It works fine in NT, and 
the machine boots in maintenance mode (just cmd.exe shell), but when the 
normal config.sys file is read, just before the presentation manager 
appears, a trap D happens. Any clues as to where the conflict lies 
(doesn't look like irq) will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Matthew Shapiro

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From: debu4335@dpnet.net                                02-Sep-99 14:03:14
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 B2 - Unsent Mail

From: Michael DeBusk <debu4335@dpnet.net>

stephen wrote:

> Has anyone else experienced a problem with unsent mail, either with
> the user files in their default location, or with them in a different
> location?

I'm experiencing the same problem.

-- 
Mike DeBusk  ÿ  North East, Maryland USA  ÿ  Team OS/2
Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences

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From: jkovacs@ibm.net                                   02-Sep-99 16:54:14
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 06:09:27
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 B2 - Unsent Mail

From: jkovacs@ibm.net   (Joe Kovacs)

In <xDK2NluHBVGg-pn2-bdUM5qCudf7n@localhost>, stephen@midac.splat.spam.com.au
(stephen) writes:

>If I compose an email offline and then hit send (which should place it
>in "unsent mail" I get a message saying "Couldn't create the folder! 
>Your hard disk may be full or the folder path name may be too long."

S'OK, everything's imperfectly under control, this is broken 
in NC4.61b2, and it will be fixed in the GA.

The authors fixed a bug in this area in 4.61b1, and 
inadvertently broke this for the 4.61b2.  They know about it.

This is discouraging for me too, since I reply to email 
offline. It's hard to get past it to dig and contribute to 
the beta. I'd like to see another beta with this cleaned up.


Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: jkovacs@ibm.net                                   02-Sep-99 18:12:19
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 06:09:27
Subj: Fixpacks for Dummies (bug)

From: jkovacs@ibm.net   (Joe Kovacs)

Good post.  Thank you very much.

Irv Spalten is owner of fixpacks, we welcome his 
participation here, and the bug is his now to fix.

He has said 'If using SERVICE.EXE, you need to use the
ADVANCED funtions', meaning the SERVICE.EXE and commit work. 
I wish he'd comment here.  For starters, I don't see any 
'ADVANCED'.

Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


In <244526693620218630867678@mwc>, Michael W. Cocke <cocke@ibm.net> writes:
>On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:43:10 GMT, Joe Kovacs wrote:
>
>>In <c1.2b8.2S0Tfd$0Fz@cast.grid.ibm.net>, jkovacs@ibm.net   (Joe Kovacs)
writes:
>>
>>>The old fileswhich are replaced are stored in a directory with 
>>>the archive bit set so you can't delete them 
>>>straightforwardly, all 10 or 50 or so MB of them.  
>>>
>>>When you commit, the commit process brings all the syslevel 
>>>entries up to date and takes off the archive bits on those 
>>>files, so you can DEL C:\Archive\*.* 
>>
>>Correction.  It _doesn't take the archive bit off those files. 
>>Now I don't know what the official thing to do is, to delete 
>>those things after a successful commit.
>>
>>Are we supposed to run ATTRIB and DEL or what?
>>
>>
>>Joe Kovacs
>>Guelph Ontario Canada
>>
>>
>cd \archive (or whatever)
>attrib -r -s 
>del *.*
>
>
>BTW, the 'commit' facility in most recent CSF sets is broken - this is 
>the only way to 'commit' to a service level since 1.38 or so.  It was 
>documented in a readme that came with a CSF set - which one, I have no 
>idea.  Note that I think it's just the commit button that's busted - 
>response file commit may still work.  If you use this method to commit 
>to a service level, the next time you install a fixpack, you'll have to 
>go thru the process documented in the fixpack readme for "No files to 
>service".  I've been doing it that way since fixpack 3 or so, no 
>problems.
>
>Easier than inserting a CD-ROM from MS into your Windows box and praying
>it sees the hardware that you really have and nothing else...  (long, 
>grim, story skipped)


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From: jkoenin@fullnet.net                               02-Sep-99 16:46:18
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 06:09:28
Subj: WSeB File Server Problem

From: Jason Koeninger <jkoenin@fullnet.net>

I posted this question in comp.os.os2.networking.server and 
got no response.  My thought was that this was a tuning problem 
and could be resolved with a simple ibmlan.ini modification 
that I was just missing.  Well...one week and several changes 
to ibmlan.ini and protocol.ini later, the problem persists.  To 
add to my frustration, our NT and 95 systems DO NOT exhibit any 
problems.  As you would guess, this is causing the word processor 
and spreadsheet users that are experiencing this problem to grumble 
about why we aren't using NT or 95.

Now for the problem:

We were previously running OS/2 Warp 4.0 with LAN Server 5.0 installed 
over the top from WarpServer Entry.  Due to the need to upgrade our hardware, 
we decided to move to WSeB.  The machine is an IBM Netfinity 5000 with 
a P500, 128 Mb RAM, and 4.5 and 9.1 Gb hot swap hard drives.  OS/2's 
on a 1 Gb partition on the 4.5.  DB2/2 is on the remainder of the 4.5 
Gb drive, and our shared directories are all on the 9.1 Gb drive.  

We started with JFS on the DB2/2 and LAN partitions, but ditched it due to 
some odd problems(recent fix announcement explaining that).  We thought 
this problem was due to JFS, but it persists on HPFS.

What happens is that after a net start server, everything works perfectly 
for a period of time.  After a while DOS and Windows sessions on OS/2 
client workstations start getting incomplete listings of files and directories 

from the WSeB shared partitions.  If you return to OS/2 and perform the 
same directory listing, everything shows up properly.  Once back in DOS or 
Windows, the files and directories will list properly once, then revert back 
to their previous, incomplete state.  This continues until the server has 
been stopped and restarted and starts up again after a while.

Client systems that have exhibited the problem are Warp 3.0 Connect (no
fixpaks)
and Warp 4.0 Fixpak 8 and 9.  Since they worked with our previous server, I
have 
not paid much attention to them as the possible source of the problem.  We
have 
tested the Client Connect Pak included with WSeB on one machine and got the 
same results.

Here's our ibmlan.ini server section:

[server]

  alertnames =
  auditing = resource
  autodisconnect = 120
  maxusers = 32
  guestacct = guest
  accessalert = 5
  alertsched = 5
  diskalert = 5000
  erroralert = 5
  keepdossearch = 600
  logonalert = 5
  maxauditlog = 100
  maxchdevjob = 6
  maxchdevq = 2
  maxchdevs = 2
  maxconnections = 128
  maxlocks = 64
  maxopens = 160
  maxsearches = 150
  maxsessopens = 80
  maxsessreqs = 50
  maxsessvcs = 1
  maxshares = 64
  netioalert = 5
  numbigbuf = 48
  numfiletasks = 1
  numreqbuf = 48
  othsrvnames =
  sizreqbuf = 4096
  srvanndelta = 3000
  srvannounce = 180
  srvhidden = no
; The next lines help you to locate bits in the srvheuristics entry.
;                           1         2
;                 012345678901234567890
  srvheuristics = 111101411113130013311
  SRVSERVICES = NETLOGON,LSSERVER
  srvnets = net1
  autopath =

And protocol.ini:

[PROT_MAN]

   DRIVERNAME = PROTMAN$

[VLAN_KERNEL]

   DRIVERNAME = VLANKNL$
   CFGTYPE = "LOCKED"
   MODE = "LEARN_WFLOWS"
   LANTYPE = "802.5"
   MAXADDRESSES = 3500

[IBMLXCFG]

   netbeui_nif = netbeui.nif
   tcpip_nif = tcpip.nif
   PCNTND_nif = PCNTND.NIF

[NETBIOS]

   DriverName = netbios$
   ADAPTER0 = netbeui$,0

[netbeui_nif]

   DriverName = netbeui$
   Bindings = PCNTND_nif
   ETHERAND_TYPE = "I"
   USEADDRREV = "YES"
   OS2TRACEMASK = 0x0
   SESSIONS = 100
   NCBS = 150
   NAMES = 42
   SELECTORS = 50
   USEMAXDATAGRAM = "YES"
   ADAPTRATE = 1000
   WINDOWERRORS = 0
   MAXDATARCV = 4352
   TI = 60000
   T1 = 10000
   T2 = 2000
   MAXIN = 1
   MAXOUT = 1
   NETBIOSTIMEOUT = 500
   NETBIOSRETRIES = 15
   NAMECACHE = 1000
   RNDOPTION = 1
   PIGGYBACKACKS = 1
   DATAGRAMPACKETS = 50
   PACKETS = 350
   LOOPPACKETS = 8
   PIPELINE = 5
   MAXTRANSMITS = 34
   MINTRANSMITS = 2
   DLCRETRIES = 15
   FCPRIORITY = 5
   NETFLAGS = 0x1000

[tcpip_nif]

   DriverName = TCPIP$
   Bindings = PCNTND_nif

[PCNTND_nif]

   DriverName = PCNTND$
   bustype = "PCI"
   LED0 = 0x00C0
   LED1 = 0x00A0
   led2 = 0x0090

Client side configurations have not been adjusted beyond the default 
installation and setting of the bit in wrkheuristics that returns 
a max of 2 Gb free to DOS/Windows applications for one application
that couldn't deal with 7 Gb free.

Anyway, we have to roll out our DB2 application that will also occupy 
this server on Sept. 15th, so we can't be goofing around with the machine 
much longer.  Any help anyone out there could provide would be very timely.
We can't put up with this problem much longer and will have to consider 
other, more drastic solutions soon.  If I need to provide additional 
information, let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,

Jason Koeninger

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From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com                             02-Sep-99 13:37:18
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 06:09:29
Subj: Re: trap D ether 3c905b

From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" <seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com>

On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:44:12 GMT, Matthew@psych wrote:

>I installed a 3c905b card ...a trap D happens.
Make sure you have the latest driver from 3com's site and that you have the
current service level for whatever MPTS you have installed.


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From: huffd@nls.net                                     03-Sep-99 03:31:16
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 10:34:22
Subj: Re: WSeB File Server Problem

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

I had a similar problem running Aurora. The disk would become corrupted
somewhat
and even os2 utility programs would not list all of the directories on the
disk. The
system
had been subject to many less that graceful reboots while I was installing web
server
software. The cure was to boot to the command line and run chkdsk (JFS drive)
/F:3
Since things have settled down considerably the problem has not reoccurred.

Jason Koeninger wrote:

> I posted this question in comp.os.os2.networking.server and
> got no response.  My thought was that this was a tuning problem
> and could be resolved with a simple ibmlan.ini modification
> that I was just missing.  Well...one week and several changes
> to ibmlan.ini and protocol.ini later, the problem persists.  To
> add to my frustration, our NT and 95 systems DO NOT exhibit any
> problems.  As you would guess, this is causing the word processor
> and spreadsheet users that are experiencing this problem to grumble
> about why we aren't using NT or 95.
>
> Now for the problem:
>
> We were previously running OS/2 Warp 4.0 with LAN Server 5.0 installed
> over the top from WarpServer Entry.  Due to the need to upgrade our
hardware,
> we decided to move to WSeB.  The machine is an IBM Netfinity 5000 with
> a P500, 128 Mb RAM, and 4.5 and 9.1 Gb hot swap hard drives.  OS/2's
> on a 1 Gb partition on the 4.5.  DB2/2 is on the remainder of the 4.5
> Gb drive, and our shared directories are all on the 9.1 Gb drive.
>
> We started with JFS on the DB2/2 and LAN partitions, but ditched it due to
> some odd problems(recent fix announcement explaining that).  We thought
> this problem was due to JFS, but it persists on HPFS.
>
> What happens is that after a net start server, everything works perfectly
> for a period of time.  After a while DOS and Windows sessions on OS/2
> client workstations start getting incomplete listings of files and
directories
> from the WSeB shared partitions.  If you return to OS/2 and perform the
> same directory listing, everything shows up properly.  Once back in DOS or
> Windows, the files and directories will list properly once, then revert back
> to their previous, incomplete state.  This continues until the server has
> been stopped and restarted and starts up again after a while.
>
> Client systems that have exhibited the problem are Warp 3.0 Connect (no
fixpaks)
> and Warp 4.0 Fixpak 8 and 9.  Since they worked with our previous server, I
have
> not paid much attention to them as the possible source of the problem.  We
have
> tested the Client Connect Pak included with WSeB on one machine and got the
> same results.
>
> Here's our ibmlan.ini server section:
>
> [server]
>
>   alertnames =
>   auditing = resource
>   autodisconnect = 120
>   maxusers = 32
>   guestacct = guest
>   accessalert = 5
>   alertsched = 5
>   diskalert = 5000
>   erroralert = 5
>   keepdossearch = 600
>   logonalert = 5
>   maxauditlog = 100
>   maxchdevjob = 6
>   maxchdevq = 2
>   maxchdevs = 2
>   maxconnections = 128
>   maxlocks = 64
>   maxopens = 160
>   maxsearches = 150
>   maxsessopens = 80
>   maxsessreqs = 50
>   maxsessvcs = 1
>   maxshares = 64
>   netioalert = 5
>   numbigbuf = 48
>   numfiletasks = 1
>   numreqbuf = 48
>   othsrvnames =
>   sizreqbuf = 4096
>   srvanndelta = 3000
>   srvannounce = 180
>   srvhidden = no
> ; The next lines help you to locate bits in the srvheuristics entry.
> ;                           1         2
> ;                 012345678901234567890
>   srvheuristics = 111101411113130013311
>   SRVSERVICES = NETLOGON,LSSERVER
>   srvnets = net1
>   autopath =
>
> And protocol.ini:
>
> [PROT_MAN]
>
>    DRIVERNAME = PROTMAN$
>
> [VLAN_KERNEL]
>
>    DRIVERNAME = VLANKNL$
>    CFGTYPE = "LOCKED"
>    MODE = "LEARN_WFLOWS"
>    LANTYPE = "802.5"
>    MAXADDRESSES = 3500
>
> [IBMLXCFG]
>
>    netbeui_nif = netbeui.nif
>    tcpip_nif = tcpip.nif
>    PCNTND_nif = PCNTND.NIF
>
> [NETBIOS]
>
>    DriverName = netbios$
>    ADAPTER0 = netbeui$,0
>
> [netbeui_nif]
>
>    DriverName = netbeui$
>    Bindings = PCNTND_nif
>    ETHERAND_TYPE = "I"
>    USEADDRREV = "YES"
>    OS2TRACEMASK = 0x0
>    SESSIONS = 100
>    NCBS = 150
>    NAMES = 42
>    SELECTORS = 50
>    USEMAXDATAGRAM = "YES"
>    ADAPTRATE = 1000
>    WINDOWERRORS = 0
>    MAXDATARCV = 4352
>    TI = 60000
>    T1 = 10000
>    T2 = 2000
>    MAXIN = 1
>    MAXOUT = 1
>    NETBIOSTIMEOUT = 500
>    NETBIOSRETRIES = 15
>    NAMECACHE = 1000
>    RNDOPTION = 1
>    PIGGYBACKACKS = 1
>    DATAGRAMPACKETS = 50
>    PACKETS = 350
>    LOOPPACKETS = 8
>    PIPELINE = 5
>    MAXTRANSMITS = 34
>    MINTRANSMITS = 2
>    DLCRETRIES = 15
>    FCPRIORITY = 5
>    NETFLAGS = 0x1000
>
> [tcpip_nif]
>
>    DriverName = TCPIP$
>    Bindings = PCNTND_nif
>
> [PCNTND_nif]
>
>    DriverName = PCNTND$
>    bustype = "PCI"
>    LED0 = 0x00C0
>    LED1 = 0x00A0
>    led2 = 0x0090
>
> Client side configurations have not been adjusted beyond the default
> installation and setting of the bit in wrkheuristics that returns
> a max of 2 Gb free to DOS/Windows applications for one application
> that couldn't deal with 7 Gb free.
>
> Anyway, we have to roll out our DB2 application that will also occupy
> this server on Sept. 15th, so we can't be goofing around with the machine
> much longer.  Any help anyone out there could provide would be very timely.
> We can't put up with this problem much longer and will have to consider
> other, more drastic solutions soon.  If I need to provide additional
> information, let me know.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jason Koeninger

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From: wwilly@one.net                                    03-Sep-99 04:02:13
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 10:34:22
Subj: Re: Fixpacks for Dummies

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <05C6FUhLDNUU-pn2-1PxK1cuW0rwq@localhost>,
  wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna)
     and a host of others wrote:
        <<<snip>>>

There's been a lot of really misinformed stuff posted
on this thread.  Except, of course, Irv Spalten's
words, which are gospel because he owns the Kicker.
Excuse me, Fix Tool.  Kicker, Fix Tool, CSF, these
are synonyms.

Some specific responses to specific bits of
misinformation I've read in the other posts:

- Archive bits have nothing to do with CSF.

- Don't mess with the CSF Archive & Backup; the cost
of the disk space pales in comparison with the cost
of the troubles you buy with that extra disk space
next time you try to apply a Fix Pack.  Keep them.
Never delete them.  Disk space is cheap these days.

- There is a flat ASCII text file READ.ME that comes
with the Fix Tool.  It contains some good operational
details, information about parameters, & what not.
There is also a README.INF that sort of explains the
concepts of Archive & Backup.  You really should read
& study them both.  Basically, Archive & Backup are
both backups of modules serviced by Fix Packs.
Archive is an older set; Backup is newer.  Archive is
written during the first FP you apply after a COMMIT.
And other times.  Read on.  Backup is written as step
0 of EVERY FIX PACK APPLICATION.  Backout of a FP
goes to either Backup level or Archive level.  No
other choices.  Backup or Archive.  Simple Backout of
a FP goes to the Backup & undoes the changes made by
your most recent FP.  Backout to Archive skips back
however many levels & does the same thing from the
CSF Archive.

COMMIT essentially merges the Backup -- MERGES, not
simply deletes -- into the Archive, and only THEN
does it delete the Backup.  You don't need to COMMIT
before applying a FP.  (I think it's the smart thing
to do & it's what I've always done, but it's not
necessary.  I wait until I'm about to apply a new FP
& I do a COMMIT then.  So as long as a FP is the
latest, I can back it out.)  For example, if you
COMMIT FP5, then apply FPs 6, 7, & 8, your Archive
level will be FP5 & your Backup level will be FP7.
You will be able to back FP8 out to Archive level,
which would be FP5, or Backup level, which would be
FP 7.  Or you can COMMIT to FP8, which merges
Backup.......

Ummmm........  Hang on.  After a little reading of
the README.INF, I need to revise what I started to
say.  COMMIT takes the serviced files currently on
your system & writes them into the Archive, then
deletes the Backup.  So for the scenario I'm building
here, if you apply FP8 then COMMIT, the Archive
contains FP8 level modules & the Backup is deleted.
This should scare you a very great distance away from
the claim I've read here that COMMIT just deletes the
CSF Backup so you can do it manually.  Irv said not
to.  Do what Irv says.

And I see the terms Fix Pack & Service Pack used in
the README.INF in such a way that makes me realize
they are NOT the same thing.  I must say I don't know
what a Service Pack is.  All I've ever seen for OS/2
are Fix Packs.

Irv responded to some similar questions I posed here
in comp.os.os2.bugs several months ago.  Do some
searches at Deja News & you'll find his corrections
of my misconceptions at the time.

- COMMIT works.  It worked for many levels of CSF,
and then broke in . . . was it 1.38?  And I think it
was sick for 2 or 3 releases of CSF.  But the current
CSF, Fix Tool 1.41, has a perfectly functioning
COMMIT function.  Again, search Deja News & you'll
find posts complaining when COMMIT suddenly broke.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: wwilly@one.net                                    03-Sep-99 04:21:02
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 10:34:22
Subj: Re: WSeB File Server Problem

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <wwilly@one.net>

In article <37CEF03D.942A6929@fullnet.net>,
  jkoenin@fullnet.net wrote:

I have no experience with the configuration you're
running so take that into account.

        <<<max snippage>>>
>   numbigbuf = 48
>   numreqbuf = 48
>   sizreqbuf = 4096
        <<<more snippage>>>

Sounds like maybe buffers are getting exhausted over
time.  Maybe you just don't have enough or big enough
buffers.  So I'm highlighting these parameters in
IBMLAN.INI.  Perhaps these values can be increased.
On the other hand, maybe there's a memory leak.  In
which case, maybe there's system service that should
be applied.  I know there's plenty of MPTS, TCP/IP, &
Peer maintenance out there for the WARP 4 client, but
I can't say how applicable any of it might be to WS
for eB.

I see mention of NCBs, sessions, & names.  This puts
me in the mind of a discussion you can find on Deja
News from recent days.  A gentleman asked me about
some traps he was having in Peer services.  My advice
was to reorder some of the DEVICE statements in
CONFIG.SYS.  If WS for eB has a LANTRAN.LOG like the
W4 client does, you can see messages in there
reporting just how many NCBs, sessions, & names
you're really getting.  If those values don't match
what you've requested, you should resequence those
drivers in your CONFIG.SYS as I advised in my earlier
post on that other thread.

Again, beware.  I have never used, never even SEEN, a
WS for eB system so this could all be hot air.  What
I'm posting here comes from my experience with the
client, both WARP Connect & W4.

Then again, if this is important to your business,
you should shell out some cash & get some IBM support
folks on site & have them fix this.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


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From: wswain@erinet.com                                 03-Sep-99 11:20:22
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 19:57:18
Subj: Re: Fixpacks for Dummies

From: wswain@erinet.com

WW;
You recently said in this thread:
"There's been a lot of really misinformed stuff posted on this thread. " 
And then went on to discuss some of the finer points of installing fix
paks.  

You appear to be rather knowledgeable, which is what I need.  I run Warp
4, no fix paks.  I have Fix Pak 6 but am reluctant to install it for two
reasons:  I don't have a lot of trouble with my Warp 4 (although lately it
weems to be getting cranky) but more importantly, I am concerned that my
attempt to install 6 will result in a horrid crash.

I need the computer for my work, I think OS2 is the best os for my
purposes and I don't want to screw things up.

BUT.... I understand Fix Six should be installed to get Y2K compliant.  

My six is on a CD and the installation seems fairly straightforward for a
low intermediate skilled computer user such as myself.

Would you recommend I install Six?  If so are there any hidden abysses I
should be looking out for?

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

Whit  (In the Dayton suburbs)
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From: cmhall@umich.edu                                  03-Sep-99 15:56:26
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 19:57:18
Subj: RSU fail due to unzip RC=3

From: cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall)

I had previously successfully applied fp11 to warp 4 but now if I try to
use RSU, even for download & unzip only, it stops at the unzip of the tbl
file with an error code of 3. I have installed the latest rsuinst.exe,
unzip.exe
and rxftp.dll. Any suggestons? I want to get an $rsutmp$ set up for an older
machine running warp3

Chris Hall  (cmhall@umich.edu)
Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan
"They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results
they expect, sometimes they don't."   from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.


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From: smath@dial.pipex.com                              03-Sep-99 17:01:12
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 19:57:18
Subj: Re: Visualage C++ and Warp4F11

From: smath@dial.pipex.com

I have the same problem with VisualAge C++ 3 FP8, Warp4 FP8. The SCSI
Zip drive is E:. The only solution is to make sure there is always a
disk in the drive.

About 20 DLLs have embedded file names that reference drive E: -
cppoou3.dll has the string E:\DRIVER10\CPPOOU3 and _doscall.dll has a
whole stack of E:\BUILD\RT\SRC\*.C names, for example. Whether this has
anything to do with it I don't know. 

James Stotz wrote:
> 
> I was just going through the basic introduction to visualage c++, and
> there are instructions to compile and run a simple program oview.cpp.
> This is just a basic put words on the screen program.
> 
> But, during the compile I get 5 sys0039 errors.  This points to my SCSI
> Zip drive.
> 
> Anybody know why this happens or how to fix it.  Something to report to
> IBM?
> 
> Thankx,
> 
> James Stotz
> Simon Fraser University

-- 
 Steve Matthews
 smath@dial.pipex.com

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