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From: jana.persson@telia.com                            27-Aug-99 22:29:17
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 03:31:24
Subj: Image compression

From: "Jan A" <jana.persson@telia.com>

Anyone know of any REALLY efficient image compression utility? The type
image I need compressed is a 200 dpi/256 grays with mostly printed text and
lines on it. In the BMP format, the image is just above 1 MB in size and I
need it to be under 10K. Lossy compression OK but have to be able to read
handwritten text after decompression and printout.

The amount of grays is actually mostly noise, so the closest I've come this
far was to reduce the amount of grays to 2 and use GIF89a, that took it down
to some 17K. But I desperately need to get rid of another 10K or so. Would
IFS do it (fractals)? Wavelets? I have no experience with those.

A clue, anyone?

/Jan A

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From: fmaskus@spamcop.net                               27-Aug-99 17:20:02
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 03:31:25
Subj: Re: unattended access to ISP

From: Frank <fmaskus@spamcop.net>

ms371621@mindspring.com wrote:
> 
> Some piece of software is asking my dialer (IBM Dial-Up for TCP/IP) to
> connect to the ISP at odd times and dates.  It is not PM Mail and it is not
> Netscape. Could it be some part of the OS or something IBM has hidden away
> for some reason? In every case the dialer ap is running on the desktop, but
> there is no connection to the ISP.  The only way I an control this is to
> physically turn off the (external) modem when I am going to be away from my
> desk.
> Any tips on how to track this down would be appreciated.
> 
> Sean Kilpatrick
>

Try renaming the dialer, then the culprit program should give you a file
not found error.


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From: nospam@null                                       28-Aug-99 10:35:28
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 10:43:13
Subj: Re: RSJ Problem

From: nospam@null (Richard A Crane)

On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:17:52, ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson) 
wrote:


> THE PROCEDURE:
> 
> 1) Ensure the disk is in the drive properly.
> 
> 2) Open an OS/2 command line session and give the command
> 	trackcpy
>    NB: Like "trackcopy" but without an 'o'.
> 
> 3) When the '>' prompt appears, give the command
> 	blank cdr: 0
> 
> 4) Wait.  Apparently the time required varies with the type of
>    drive.  For Yamahas, it takes about as long as the original
>    recording (plus finalisation) took.  So go brew up a cup of
>    something legal and let the machine do its thing.
> 
> 5) When it has finished and the next '>' prompt appears, give
>    the command
> 	quit
> 
> And that's it.  The disk should now attach in the usual way.
> 
 Could I suggest "trackcpy && blank cdr:0 && quit"

A slightly shorter version (you don't have to check for it in the middle it
just
all runs)
Richard A Crane ph 08 8945 3252 fx 08 8945 5952
Check Copyright of this with the author you may suffer litigation or 
embarrassment.

ps Foolproof is not good enough ..... we're not dealing with fools

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From: dkneuppe@swbell.net                               28-Aug-99 10:53:13
  To: All                                               28-Aug-99 16:46:26
Subj: Re: unattended access to ISP

From: "Doug Kneupper" <dkneuppe@swbell.net>

1. Make sure that the config.sys does not reload any programs that were
running when the system was shut down.
2. Make sure that there is nothing in the startup folder that you are not
aware of.
3. check to determine if you have a startup.cmd, and if you do check it to
determine if there is
   anything unusual.
4. PSTAT may give you some help here.

On 27 Aug 1999 19:04:32 GMT, ms371621@mindspring.com wrote:

>Some piece of software is asking my dialer (IBM Dial-Up for TCP/IP) to
>connect to the ISP at odd times and dates.  It is not PM Mail and it is not
>Netscape. Could it be some part of the OS or something IBM has hidden away
>for some reason? In every case the dialer ap is running on the desktop, but
>there is no connection to the ISP.  The only way I an control this is to
>physically turn off the (external) modem when I am going to be away from my
>desk.
>Any tips on how to track this down would be appreciated.  
>
>Sean Kilpatrick
>
>

Doug Kneupper


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From: andrie@ibm.net                                    28-Aug-99 09:47:14
  To: rp2@freespace.net                                 29-Aug-99 05:35:21
Subj: Re: looking for disk2 for os2 warp v3

To: wave <rp2@freespace.net>
From: "Hans Andrieáen" <andrie@ibm.net>

wave schrieb:
> 
> i backed up my os2 long time ago and about to install it on my system today
> but having a problem with second disk.
> Something about too many track or corruct file..

Use from install-CD-ROM:
CDINST.BAT
or
CDINST.COM
to generate new install-disks

Bye/2
Hans

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From: ms371621@mindspring.com                           28-Aug-99 23:50:18
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 10:42:25
Subj: Re: unattended access to ISP

From: ms371621@mindspring.com

In <qxarhccrfjoryyarg.fh6k120.pminews@news.swbell.net>, "Doug Kneupper"
<dkneuppe@swbell.net> writes:
>1. Make sure that the config.sys does not reload any programs that were
running when the system was shut down.
>2. Make sure that there is nothing in the startup folder that you are not
aware of.
>3. check to determine if you have a startup.cmd, and if you do check it to
determine if there is
>   anything unusual.


Doug,

Thanks for the tip. My startup folder contains TCP/IP Startup, which must have
been put there when I upgraded to Fixpack 11.  It wasn't there before.  But
this problem goes back to before I installed Fixpack 11.

Sean

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From: jaj01@earthlink.net                               28-Aug-99 19:37:08
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 10:42:25
Subj: FIXED!!-> Can't access any HELP files!

From: "James A. Jones" <jaj01@earthlink.net>

I finally found out what was preventing OS/2 Warp 4 from accessing any
HELP or INF files. Somehow, HPMGRMRI.DLL was missing from the \OS2\DLL
directory. This is the "Help manager resource dll" that works along with
HELPMGR.DLL. I have no idea how it could have been deleted. Good thing I
had another Warp 4 system running on my other machine, or I would have
never found it. Thanks to all who offered suggestions!

P.S. If you ever want to secure a Warp 4 system to prevent users from
accessing any help files, INF files, tutorial, or Regedit2, HPMGRMRI.DLL
is the file to delete.

-- 
 ----------
"Bill Gates is a white Persian cat and a monocle away
from becoming another James Bond villain."
"No Mr Bond, I expect you to upgrade." -Dennis Miller
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From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com                          29-Aug-99 04:43:01
  To: All                                               29-Aug-99 15:49:07
Subj: Re: FIXED!!-> Can't access any HELP files!

From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:37:17, "James A. Jones" <jaj01@earthlink.net> a 
Úcrit dans un message:

> I finally found out what was preventing OS/2 Warp 4 from accessing any
> HELP or INF files. Somehow, HPMGRMRI.DLL was missing from the \OS2\DLL
> directory. This is the "Help manager resource dll" that works along with
> HELPMGR.DLL. I have no idea how it could have been deleted. Good thing I
> had another Warp 4 system running on my other machine, or I would have
> never found it. Thanks to all who offered suggestions!

Nice of you to post the fix, and glad you worked it out, but next time, 
when you email people to get help with this, you should make sure your 
return mailbox works, and you should read these groups to check for 
feedback that was posted when the email bounced.

admin@earthlink.net says "jaj01@earthlink.net" isn't a valid email.

And I'm not sure it needs to be cross-posted like it was, but I'll keep it 
just like it is so you're more likely to read this. 

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
donnelly@tampabay.rr.com


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From: lazaga1@ibm.net                                   30-Aug-99 00:51:16
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 12:22:13
Subj: Re: Image compression

From: Paul Lazaga <lazaga1@ibm.net>


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 8-27-99, 10:29:34 PM, "Jan A" <jana.persson@telia.com> wrote 
regarding Image compression:


> Anyone know of any REALLY efficient image compression utility? The 
type
> image I need compressed is a 200 dpi/256 grays with mostly printed 
text and
> lines on it. In the BMP format, the image is just above 1 MB in size 
and I
> need it to be under 10K. Lossy compression OK but have to be able to 
read
> handwritten text after decompression and printout.

> The amount of grays is actually mostly noise, so the closest I've come 
this
> far was to reduce the amount of grays to 2 and use GIF89a, that took 
it down
> to some 17K. But I desperately need to get rid of another 10K or so. 
Would
> IFS do it (fractals)? Wavelets? I have no experience with those.

> A clue, anyone?

> /Jan A

> --
> ______________________________
> T U M B L E W E E D    T R A I L
> -- THE COUNTRY OF SWEDEN --
> http://www.tumbleweedtrail.com
> http://musicians.riffage.com/tumbleweedtrail/
> http://www.amp3.net/tumbleweedtrail
> http://www.mp3.com/tumbleweedtrail
> ___________________
> jana@tumbleweedtrail.com

I find PMView highly acceptable

-- 
Paul Lazaga, eMail: lazaga1@ibm.net
WTW Group, Los Gatos, California, USA
Tel: 408-378-8636, Fax: 408-378-5927
Web: http://www.wtwgroup.com



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From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca                         30-Aug-99 16:35:16
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 16:56:27
Subj: Re: Wav to CD Audio

From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca (Martin Racette)

On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:30:44, 
torsten.balle.koefoed@somewhere.dk 
(Torsten Balle Koefoed) wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:32:58, racette@cablevision.qc.ca (Martin Racette)
wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible to copy some .WAV and 
> > write them on a CD-R in Audio format 
> > i.e.: that can be read by a standard CD 
> > play in a car or home by using RSJ 2.83 
> > ?
> 
> Just drag the Wav-files into CDView and burn.
> 
> Yours etc.
>   Torsten Balle Koefoed
> 
> (Replace servername in address with: writeme<dot>com)

I tried it but it won't work here the 
error message I get :

"Can't open drive 
[d:\mmos2\sounds\boo.wav]. Make sure the
drive is ready and not use by any other 
application"

and when I use the INFO... button here's
what I get:

SOURCE: cdif.c, Aug 16 1999
LINE: 2064
PM ERROR: 0x1017
C ERRNO: (none)
CD ERROR: (none)

I use the demo d/l directly from the RSJ
web site and it's 2.83 (I will buy it 
soon :-) )

BTW. I tried with WAV file that comes 
with OS/2 to see if it would work

//-------------------------
Thank you in advance

Merci a l'avance

Martin

http://205.237.57.73/

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From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca                         30-Aug-99 19:31:09
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 19:58:00
Subj: Re: Wav to CD Audio

From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca (Martin Racette)

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:37:01, "Hal 
Murray" <hjmurray@home.com> wrote:

>  > > > Is it possible to copy some .WAV and  > > > write them on a CD-R in
Audio format  > > > i.e.: that can be read by a standard CD  > > > play in a
car or home by using RSJ 2.83  > > > ? > >  > > Just drag the Wav-files into
CDView and burn. > >  > > Yours etc. > >   Torsten Balle Koefoed > >  > >
(Replace servername in address with: writeme<dot>com) >  > I tried it but it
won't work here the  > error message I get :The easiest I have found is to use 
CD View. By the looks of the error
> message you have 'attached' the writer drive before selecting your
> files to copy.Open CD View of your regular CD and you will see the audio
files.
> Then open CD View of your writer drive. Drag the audio files to the
> writer drive and hit the record button. When done close the session.If you
have WAVs on you hard drive open CD View of your hard drive
> and go to the directory where you have the WAV files. Drag the files
> you want to the window of your CD View writer drive and drag them
> over to it and hit record.My regular old CD drive can not read audio data
tracks well, they
> 'skip' so I use my CD writer to copy audio tracks to my hard drive.
> this creats WAV files. Then using CD View I drag them back to the CD
> writer drive.Hal Murray Calgary, AB

What you do, I already now how to do it,
but what I want to do is to copy some 
WAV files that I already got and were 
not created with CDVIEW i.e.: copy a WAV
file into an Audio CD

//-------------------------
Thank you in advance

Merci a l'avance

Martin

http://205.237.57.73/

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From: kris@dgraph.com                                   30-Aug-99 14:35:04
  To: All                                               30-Aug-99 21:34:14
Subj: Re: Wav to CD Audio

From: Kris Kadela <kris@dgraph.com>


Martin Racette wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:37:01, "Hal
> Murray" <hjmurray@home.com> wrote:
> 
> >  > > > Is it possible to copy some .WAV and  > > > write them on a CD-R in 
Audio format  > > > i.e.: that can be read by a standard CD  > > > play in a
car or home by using RSJ 2.83  > > > ? > >  > > Just drag the Wav-files into
CDView and burn. > >  > > Yours etc. > >   Torsten Balle Koefoed > >  > >
(Replace servername in address with: writeme<dot>com) >  > I tried it but it
won't work here the  > error message I get :The easiest I have found is to use 
CD View. By the looks of the error
> > message you have 'attached' the writer drive before selecting your
> > files to copy.Open CD View of your regular CD and you will see the audio
files.
> > Then open CD View of your writer drive. Drag the audio files to the
> > writer drive and hit the record button. When done close the session.If you 
have WAVs on you hard drive open CD View of your hard drive
> > and go to the directory where you have the WAV files. Drag the files
> > you want to the window of your CD View writer drive and drag them
> > over to it and hit record.My regular old CD drive can not read audio data
tracks well, they
> > 'skip' so I use my CD writer to copy audio tracks to my hard drive.
> > this creats WAV files. Then using CD View I drag them back to the CD
> > writer drive.Hal Murray Calgary, AB
> 
> What you do, I already now how to do it,
> but what I want to do is to copy some
> WAV files that I already got and were
> not created with CDVIEW i.e.: copy a WAV
> file into an Audio CD
> 
> //-------------------------
> Thank you in advance
> 
> Merci a l'avance
> 
> Martin
> 
> http://205.237.57.73/

-- 

The WAVs have to be in a very specific format, 16bit PCM, 44.1(or
sometnionh like that) kHz.
Check them first.



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DigiGraph Technical
http://www.dgraph.com
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From: nospam_madbrain@thetaband.com                     31-Aug-99 03:44:11
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 11:04:20
Subj: Theta Band Software releases WarpCharge payment software

From: nospam_madbrain@thetaband.com

Santa Clara, Calif. - Theta Band Software LLC released WarpCharge, a new
product that enables web sites to securely process credit card orders directly
over the Internet.

WarpCharge is the first credit card processing software available for the OS/2
platform.  WarpCharge provides the missing piece in your OS/2 e-commerce
solution : the payment system.

"Until now, merchants running secure web sites on IBM OS/2 Warp Server for
E-business had no means to process payments online. They could accept online
orders, but had to process the payment manually." said Julien Pierre,
President of Theta Band Software. "Shoppers like to get their purchase
immediately, and by processing credit card payments automatically and in
real-time, WarpCharge enables that sort of instant gratification."

WarpCharge is not just for e-commerce - it can be used for nearly all types of
businesses : whether you are taking credit card orders by mail, over the phone
or real-time over the Internet, WarpCharge is the perfect solution.

WarpCharge comes with sample CGI scripts for use on any secure OS/2 web
server, so that you can start taking Internet orders immediately.

WarpCharge also comes with an extensive REXX interface that lets developers
integrate credit card processing facility into any REXX-enabled OS/2
application, or into custom applications.

There are two editions of WarpCharge :

WarpCharge Business

WarpCharge Business is for any business that needs to process credit cards
over the phone, web, or in custom REXX applications. 

WarpCharge for Internet Service Providers

WarpCharge for ISPs lets Internet Service Providers offer credit card
processing capability to all their customers.

AVAILABILITY

WarpCharge is available for purchase from the Theta Band Software web site at
http://www.thetaband.com . WarpCharge Business requires a PC running IBM OS/2
Warp 4, OS/2 Warp Server or OS/2 Warp Server for E-Business. In addition,
WarpCharge for ISPs requires an OS/2 secure web server program.

ABOUT THETA BAND SOFTWARE LLC

Theta Band Software, headquartered in Santa Clara, California, was founded in
1997 and develops Internet and multimedia software products for IBM OS/2 Warp
that are marketed and sold on the world wide web.

-- 
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Julien Pierre               http://www.madbrain.com
Theta Band Software LLC     http://www.thetaband.com
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From: C.J.@btsoftware.com                               31-Aug-99 15:00:19
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 14:56:01
Subj: UPDATED  MEMOPLUS

From: "C.J." <C.J.@btsoftware.com>

MEMOPLUS      UPDATED
****************		

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Check it out and download Memo Plus for a free trial period from:
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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               31-Aug-99 18:30:05
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 16:34:24
Subj: Re: METAFILE CONVERTION

From: bv <bvermo@powertech.no>

Marek Wojciechowski wrote:

>
> OK but what about "OS/2 metafile" <-> "Win metafile" conversion.
> Does anybody know such a tool ?
>

An OS/2 metafile can contain almost anything, from a printer spool job
including downloadable fonts to a single OS/2 bitmap. It should be possible to
convert a Windows metafile, which is a much more limited creature, to an OS/2
metafile. The opposite is only possible in special cases.

You could get the Windows metafile into an OS/2 metafile format simply by
printing it under WinOS/2 and intercepting the spoolfile. The spoolfile is an
OS/2 metafile, but it is probably not in a format your application will be
able
to handle.

I think the best way is to convert them to a format like EPS, and exchange
that. This should work for some types of metafiles.


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From: mek@compuserve.com                                31-Aug-99 12:55:23
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 16:34:24
Subj: Print to graphic [was Re: METAFILE CONVERTION]

From: Mat Kramer <mek@compuserve.com>

A more general question: is there a printer driver that will allow
output to be saved as a file and then imported into Word 97 as a
graphic?  Word will import HPGL -- which driver should I use for that?

bv wrote:
> You could get the Windows metafile into an OS/2 metafile format simply by
> printing it under WinOS/2 and intercepting the spoolfile. The spoolfile is
an
> OS/2 metafile, but it is probably not in a format your application will be
able
> to handle.
> 
> I think the best way is to convert them to a format like EPS, and exchange
> that. This should work for some types of metafiles.

-- 
Mat Kramer [MekTek] mek@compuserve.com
VyperHelp: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mek/vyper.htm

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From: letoured@sover.net                                31-Aug-99 15:24:14
  To: All                                               31-Aug-99 21:19:21
Subj: Re: Print to graphic [was Re: METAFILE CONVERTION]

From: letoured@sover.net

>A more general question: is there a printer driver that will allow output
>to be saved as a file and then imported into Word 97 as a graphic?  Word
>will import HPGL -- which driver should I use for that?

Setting up a plotter driver (like the HP7550) and printing to file would
probably work. I suspect that word will still not give you what you want,
because the HPGL file is going to be a vector graphic and Microsoft has
never quite figured out what that means. 



>bv wrote:
>> You could get the Windows metafile into an OS/2 metafile format simply by
>> printing it under WinOS/2 and intercepting the spoolfile. The spoolfile is
an
>> OS/2 metafile, but it is probably not in a format your application will be
able
>> to handle.
>> 
>> I think the best way is to convert them to a format like EPS, and exchange
>> that. This should work for some types of metafiles.


_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca                         01-Sep-99 00:25:04
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 10:43:24
Subj: Re: Wav to CD Audio

From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca (Martin Racette)

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:35:08, Kris 
Kadela <kris@dgraph.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Martin Racette wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:37:01, "Hal
> > Murray" <hjmurray@home.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >  > > > Is it possible to copy some .WAV and  > > > write them on a CD-R
in Audio format  > > > i.e.: that can be read by a standard CD  > > > play in
a car or home by using RSJ 2.83  > > > ? > >  > > Just drag the Wav-files into 
CDView and burn. > >  > > Yours etc. > >   Torsten Balle Koefoed > >  > >
(Replace servername in address with: writeme<dot>com) >  > I tried it but it
won't work here the  > error message I get :The easiest I have found is to use 
CD View. By the looks of the error
> > > message you have 'attached' the writer drive before selecting your
> > > files to copy.Open CD View of your regular CD and you will see the audio 
files.
> > > Then open CD View of your writer drive. Drag the audio files to the
> > > writer drive and hit the record button. When done close the session.If
you have WAVs on you hard drive open CD View of your hard drive
> > > and go to the directory where you have the WAV files. Drag the files
> > > you want to the window of your CD View writer drive and drag them
> > > over to it and hit record.My regular old CD drive can not read audio
data tracks well, they
> > > 'skip' so I use my CD writer to copy audio tracks to my hard drive.
> > > this creats WAV files. Then using CD View I drag them back to the CD
> > > writer drive.Hal Murray Calgary, AB
> > 
> > What you do, I already now how to do it,
> > but what I want to do is to copy some
> > WAV files that I already got and were
> > not created with CDVIEW i.e.: copy a WAV
> > file into an Audio CD
> > 
> > //-------------------------
> > Thank you in advance
> > 
> > Merci a l'avance
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > http://205.237.57.73/
> 
> -- 
> 
> The WAVs have to be in a very specific format, 16bit PCM, 44.1(or
> sometnionh like that) kHz.
> Check them first.
> 
> 
> 
> **********************
> DigiGraph Technical
> http://www.dgraph.com
> **********************

Thank you for that information

//-------------------------
Thank you in advance

Merci a l'avance

Martin

http://205.237.57.73/

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From: ekadakal@aol.com                                  01-Sep-99 21:25:18
  To: All                                               01-Sep-99 21:47:11
Subj: What is IBMNULL print driver is for???

From: ekadakal@aol.com (EKadakal)

Hello Everyone:

The problem is:

I have removed all printers from Warp4 printer folder. However when I do Print
Screen from FULL SCREEN applications (DOS or OS/2), it still prints through
the
LPT1 if there is a printer attached. However if no printer is attached, then
it
completely locks up when presses PrintScreen on a DELL Gn Optiplex machine. 

I am suspicious that the printing is done via IBMNULL, but why is that it
would
lock up if there is no printer attached

Does anyone have any idea?

Regards

John

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From: bvermo@powertech.no                               01-Sep-99 11:40:12
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 04:17:19
Subj: Re: Print to graphic [was Re: METAFILE CONVERTION]

From: bv <bvermo@powertech.no>

Mat Kramer wrote:

> A more general question: is there a printer driver that will allow
> output to be saved as a file and then imported into Word 97 as a
> graphic?  Word will import HPGL -- which driver should I use for that?

If you use a HP printer with the HPGL-level Word works with and use only
printer
fonts (so the output will not contained downloaded fonts to the printer),
setting it
to print to file ought to work. I do not have Word to test with (and do not
feel it
as a loss).
The resulting filr is of type "Printer specific", and has 7 lines of spool
control
before the HPGL reset command (ESC-E). This ought not to bother a properly
made HPGL
import filter.

It may be useful to toggle "Fast system fonts".




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From: J.deBoynePollard@tesco.net                        02-Sep-99 10:22:25
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 10:42:05
Subj: (1/2) Announcing the OS/2 Command Line Utilities version 2.0

From: Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard@tesco.net>

Announcing the

                 ˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜ÿ
                 OS/2 Command Line Utilities version 2.0
                 ˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜ÿ

The OS/2 Command Line Utilities, OS2CLU, version 2.0 comprises a suite of
native 32-bit OS/2 commands that provide many useful abilities for the
OS/2 user, from searching archive files and subdirectories for filenames,
through searching text files for patterns, to improved versions of several
of the commands that are supplied with OS/2 itself that allow one to
remove more of the 16-bit vestiges that remain in OS/2 Warp.

They are "command line" utilities because they can all be driven from the
command line, making them suitable for use in command scripts ("batch
files").  However, OS2CLU comprises a mixture of text-mode and
Presentation Manager (i.e. graphical) programs.


FEATURES
˜˜˜˜˜˜˜ÿ

˜ All of the utilities are fully 32-bit native OS/2 programs, written to
  take advantage of many of the features of 32-bit OS/2, such as its
  ability to scan directories efficiently.

˜ 27 new commands that weren't in OS2CLU version 1.0:  ANACLOCK, ARCDIR,
  BCOMP, CALCTZ, COMP, CPUIDG, CPUIDT, DELTREE, DIGCLOCK, DIRSIZE, FIND,
  FINDDUPS, FITSIZE, HELP, PARTLIST, RESETINI, SAYDATE, SETDATE, SORT,
  STRINGS, SUM, TASKLIST, TEE, TEXTCONV, TREE, WINSIGHT, and Y.

˜ All of the utilities that deal with dates are fully capable of handling
  dates beyond the year 2000, beyond the year 2038 -- which is the "drop
  dead" date for much 32-bit C and C++ code --, and right up to the year
  2107, in fact.

  Ironically, this ability in the TOUCH and XDIR commands has revealed two
  Year 2100 bugs in OS/2's own FAT and HPFS filesystem drivers!

˜ All of the utilities that deal with files support extended wildcards,
  which are a superset of the standard OS/2 wildcard syntax, similar to
  the wildcards that are available in most UNIX shells.

  For example:

    [c:\]attrib +r *.{zip,arj,rar,lzh,tar.gz}

        and

    [c:\]xdir [a-c]*

        and

    [c:\]dump /s *.{su,mo,tu,we,th,fr,sa}[0-9]

˜ Several of the utilities are 32-bit replacements for commands supplied
  with OS/2 itself that are *still*, even in OS/2 Warp version 4, 16-bit
  programs or batch files, such as ATTRIB, COMP, FIND, HELP, SORT, and
  TREE.

  Needless to say, many of the uglier "features" of the OS/2-supplied
  commands have been removed.  The OS2CLU SORT command, for example, can
  sort files named on the command line as well as its standard input, and
  can sort files that are greater than 64KiB in size.  The OS2CLU COMP
  command can be used in a batch file with ease.  The OS2CLU FIND command
  supports regular expressions and the ability to be used in a command
  pipeline.  The OS2CLU HELP command can be configured to search different
  on-line books by default and won't destroy a customised command prompt
  if one turns help on and off.  And the OS2CLU TREE command, unlike the
  TREE supplied with OS/2, *actually displays a tree*!

˜ The command-line interface to all of the utilities is straightforward
  and consistent, and is based on conventions that will be familiar to PC
  users.

  For example, all of the utilities support the /? option for obtaining
  help; and the /S option always means "recurse into subdirectories",
  whatever the command.

˜ The utilities come with a detailed on-line help document, in the
  standard OS/2 INF file format.

˜ The DUMP, FIND, GREP, SORT, STRINGS, SUM, TEE, TEXTCONV, WC, WHAT, and Y
  commands can be used as filter commands, for use in a command pipeline,
  acting upon what they receive from their standard input, and producing
  results on their standard output.

˜ All of the utilities contain international support, displaying the date
  and time in the format appropriate to the current setting given for
  COUNTRY in CONFIG.SYS, and using OS/2's system message file for the text
  of error messages.

˜ All of the utilities that deal with dates and times can also use the ISO
  8601 standard date and time representation, which uses an unambiguous
  format with a 4-digit year, in order to avoid the inherent ambiguity in
  the "national" date formats for the first 31 years of the 21st century
  (e.g. 01/02/03).

˜ The SAYDATE and DIGCLOCK utilities fully support the TZ environment
  variable, with the standard POSIX syntax (ISO/IEC 9445-1:1990), allowing
  one to operate in any timezone, in either hemisphere, with daylight
  savings time rules being applied correctly and automatically.

  This also allows different commands to be run in different timezones.
  So one could have, if one wanted, multiple instances of DIGCLOCK running
  on the desktop at the same time, all operating in different timezones
  and with different daylight savings time rules!  A fully configurable
  and extensible "world clock"!

˜ All utilities are limited only by available virtual memory.

  The DIR command in CMD, the default command processor supplied with
  OS/2, refuses to sort a directory listing containing more than 2073
  files.  The DIR command in 4OS2 fails when the directory size reaches a
  more respectable 20,000 files.

  But the XDIR command in OS2CLU was able, in testing, to sort a directory
  listing of 100,000 files, and even that didn't reach its limit!  (We
  just ran out of enthusiasm to go any higher.  (-:)

˜ All of the utilities that deal with files fully support long filenames,
  filenames with embedded spaces and multiple full stops, deep directory
  trees, and large directories.

  Indeed, the TREE command was added to OS2CLU version 2.0 because one of
  the popular TREE utilities for OS/2 couldn't handle the C:\OS2\ARCHIVES
  directory tree and would always crash because it was too deep!

˜ All of the utilities that deal with files fully support the Universal
  Naming Convention, used by LANs and by OS/2 Warp Server 5 ("Aurora").

  For example, one doesn't need to use drive letters to access files on
  LAN fileservers, since one can use UNC filenames instead:

    [c:\]ff /s/e \\server\sharename\*.txt

        and

    [c:\]xdir \\server\sharename\*.{exe,com,cmd}

˜ All of the text-mode utilities can be used when OS/2 is booted to a
  text-mode command line.


THE INDIVIDUAL UTILITIES
˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜ÿ

    ANACLOCK    A simple Presentation Manager analogue clock program, with
                full support for timezones and automatic (and effortless)
                switching to and from daylight savings time.

    ARCDIR      Displays the contents of archives.  It performs much the
                same function as the "l" or "-view" option to many
                archiving tools, except that one tool supports multiple
                archive types with one uniform command syntax, can list
                files within the archive matching particular wildcards,
                can sort the listing, and can even produce a single
                (sorted) list of the contents of multiple archive files
                that match a particular wild card, optionally recursing
                into subdirectories to find them.

    ATTRIB      Is an enhanced, 32-bit, replacement for OS/2's 16-bit
                ATTRIB command.  It includes, amongst other enhancements,
                extended wildcards, the ability to include and exclude
                files by attribute, and the ability to modify the
                attributes of subdirectories as well as files.

    BCOMP       A simple binary byte-for-byte comparison of two files.

    CALCTZ      A Presentation Manager utility to help calculate the TZ
                environment variable string for any given timezone and
                daylight savings time rules.  Unlike other TZ calculators,
                this command calculates a TZ string that is in the
                standard POSIX 1003.1 (ISO/IEC 9445-1:1990) format.

    COMP        Is an enhanced, 32-bit, replacement for OS/2's 16-bit COMP
                command.  It doesn't prompt the user, so can be used in
                command scripts, and has a more compact output format so
                that differences are easier to spot.  It can also recurse
                into subdirectories to compare entire directory trees; and
                it supports extended wildcards.

    CONVCASE    Renames filenames to upper, lower, or mixed case, which is
                handy in those situations where other programs insist upon
                creating all-uppercase or all-lowercase filenames.  It
                supports the standard OS2CLU features of recursing into
                subdirectories, including/excluding files by attribute,
                and extended wildcards.

    CPUIDG      A Presentation Manager program to display the information
                obtained about the CPU by the CPUID instruction, including
                the various AMD and Cyrix extensions.

    CPUIDT      A text-mode program to display the information obtained
                about the CPU by the CPUID instruction, including
                the various AMD and Cyrix extensions.

    DELTREE     A REXX wrapper script for the XDEL command that behaves
                much like the DELTREE command in MS-DOS and DR-DOS does.

    DIGCLOCK    A simple Presentation Manager digital clock program, with
                a fully configurable display format and full support for
                timezones and automatic (and effortless) switching to and
                from daylight savings time.

    DIRSIZE     Displays the sizes of directories, much like the GNU `du'
                command does, but with the standard OS2CLU features such
                as enhanced wildcards and the ability to include/exclude
                files by attribute, and with the same simple, consistent,
                PC-style, interface of the other utilities that should be
                familiar to OS/2 users.  It also displays the actual true
                "allocated space" figures when used on large FAT volumes.

    DUMP        Dumps the contents of many types of file, including the
                popular ARC, ARJ, LZH, RAR, ZIP, and ZOO archive file
                formats, PKT files (used for mail transfer on Fidonet),
                executable and DLL files, and Intel object module files
                (OBJ and LIB files).

    FF          A versatile yet simple and fast file finder, that is also
                capable of locating files that are contained within ARC,
                ARJ, LZH, RAR, ZIP, and ZOO archives.  It supports the
                standard OS2CLU features of recursing into subdirectories,
                including/excluding files by attribute, and extended
                wildcards.

    FIND        A REXX wrapper for the GREP command that can replace
                OS/2's 16-bit FIND command, searching for lines in text
                files that contain a given string.  It has the standard
                OS2CLU features of being able to operate recursively on
                files in subdirectories and include/exclude files by
                attribute.  It can also has a "brief" display format, and
                the ability to display counts of the number of lines
                found.

    FINDDUPS    Locates files that are exact duplicates of one another,
                even if they have different names and timestamps.  It
                supports the standard OS2CLU features of recursing into
                subdirectories, including/excluding files by attribute,
                and extended wildcards.

    FITSIZE     Groups files into bundles that don't exceed a given total
                size.  It is useful for burning CD-ROMs, or collecting
                files onto LS-120 super-floppy discs.

    GREP        Finds lines that match a given pattern in text files, much
                like the GNU `egrep' command, but with the standard OS2CLU
                features.  It implements almost the entire POSIX "extended"
                regular expression syntax -- far more than most other grep
                utilities, which usually only provide the POSIX "basic"
                syntax.

    HELP        An enhanced, REXX, replacement for OS/2's HELP command
                (which is a "batch file").  It won't upset customised
                PROMPT strings, and doesn't require the 16-bit HELPMSG
                program in order to function.  It also allows the command
                reference on-line book that is used by default to be
                configured via the CMDREF environment variable.

                It is also useful as a replacement for the HELP command
                that is built in to Take Command for OS/2, JP Software's
                command interpreter for OS/2, which doesn't work too well!

    PARTLIST    Displays the entire, unmodified, contents of the partition
                table on one or all of the available partitionable disc
                devices.  Unlike FDISK /QUERY, the partition table is
                displayed in raw uninterpreted form, with the partition
                sizes displayed in numbers of sectors, rather than being
                converted to KiB.

                The /FIX option will fix some of the more common errors
                caused by disc geometry changes (which can occur when a
                disc is moved from one machine to another or when a
                different make of SCSI host adapter is used, for example).

    PLAYTUNE    Plays a tune through the PC speaker.  No more messing
                around converting a tune to a series of numbers for BEEPs!
                And no more need to run QBASIC in a VDM, which eats CPU
                time, just to play a tune!  The tune is given in a format
                compatible with the "PLAY" statement in the BASIC language
                and with so-called "ANSI music" as used by several BBS and
                offline mail and comms utilities.

    RESETINI    Removes the read-only attribute from the user and system
                INI files, and then instructs Workplace Shell to reload
                them.  It is useful as an aid to recovery if an incomplete
                shutdown has left the INI files read-only by accident.  It

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From: J.deBoynePollard@tesco.net                        02-Sep-99 10:22:25
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 10:42:05
Subj: (2/2) Announcing the OS/2 Command Line Utilities version 2.0

                also has the side-effect of closing and re-opening the WPS
                Desktop folder without restarting the system.

    SAYDATE     Displays the current, or any given, date and time, with a
                fully configurable display format and full support for
                timezones and automatic (and effortless) switching to and
                from daylight savings time.  The DATE and TIME commands
                cannot be used in command scripts to display the date and
                time without some ugliness, because they prompt for input.
                This command can be!

    SETDATE     Allows the hardware real-time clock to be set from a date
                or time expressed as local time in any arbitrary timezone.
                It also sets the date and time simultaneously, avoiding
                race conditions in command scripts when used near
                midnight.

    SORT        An enhanced, 32-bit, replacement for OS/2's 16-bit SORT
                command.  It can sort up to the size of available virtual
                memory and has no 64KiB limit, can also sort files named
                on the command line, and supports extended wildcards and
                the other standard OS2CLU features.  It's also quicker!

    STRINGS     Displays embedded strings of characters in files, which is
                particularly useful for searching binary files for text
                strings.  It supports the standard OS2CLU features of
                recursing into subdirectories, including and excluding
                files by attribute, and extended wildcards.

    SUM         Calculates CRC-16, CRC-32, two different types of checksum
                (UNIX BSD and System V), and the MD5 fingerprint for
                files.  It supports the standard OS2CLU features of
                recursing into subdirectories, including/excluding files
                by attribute, and extended wildcards.

    TASKLIST    Lists the contents of the PM Window List in text form,
                suitable for parsing, or use from text-mode programs.

    TEE         A "T-shaped" pipe fitting, that sends its standard input
                to its standard output, writing or appending a copy of it
                to one or more files named as its arguments.

    TEXTCONV    Converts text files from one code page and newline
                convention to another.  It makes it easy to interchange
                text files between OS/2 and Usenet, the Macintosh, and
                UNIX/linux, or between OS/2 users in different countries
                with different code pages.  It supports code page 1004 in
                particular, in order that one can convert text files from
                other code pages to ISO 8859 Latin-1.

    TOUCH       Changes the last modification, last access, or creation
                timestamp of files and directories.  It can override
                read-only protection, and it supports the standard OS2CLU
                features of being able to recurse into subdirectories and
                include/exclude files by attribute, and extended
                wildcards.

    TREE        An enhanced 32-bit replacement for OS/2's 16-bit TREE
                command.  Unlike the latter, this command actually
                displays a tree!  It can also display size information,
                and be limited to using only ASCII characters instead of
                character graphics.  It also supports extended wildcards.

    WC          Counts the number of lines, words, letters, characters, and
                bytes in files.  It supports the standard OS2CLU features
                of recursing into subdirectories, including/excluding
                files by attribute, and extended wildcards.

    WHAT        Finds any embedded SCCS identifying strings in files.

    WHICH       Finds out what would be executed if a given command name
                were used.  It knows about commands that are built into
                the 16-bit CMD, 32-bit CMD, and 4OS2 command interpreters,
                and obeys the PATHEXT environment variable.

    XDEL        Deletes files.  It supports the standard OS2CLU features
                of recursing into subdirectories, including/excluding
                files by attribute, and extended wildcards.  It can also
                remove empty subdirectories, override read-only
                protection, and wipe the contents of files before deleting
                them in order to prevent them from being successfully
                undeleted.

    XDIR        Displays directory listings.  It supports the standard
                OS2CLU features of recursing into subdirectories,
                including/excluding files by attribute, and extended
                wildcards.  It can also sort files from multiple
                subdirectories into one big list, allowing one to see all
                files in multiple subdirectories sorted together by size
                for example, and has no arbitrary limits on the number of
                files that it can process.

    WINSIGHT    Displays the hierarchy of Presentation Manager windows as
                a tree structure, showing window handles, parents, owners,
                process and thread IDs, styles, IDs, types, and text.

    Y           A "Y-shaped" pipe fitting, that concatenates its standard
                input with one or more files and sends the result to its
                standard output.  It can also be used as a more powerful
                replacement for the TYPE command built into IBM's 16-bit
                CMD command interpreter, since it supports the standard
                OS2CLU features of extended wildcards, inclusion and
                exclusion of files by attributes, and recursion into
                subdirectories.


WHERE TO FIND OS2CLU
˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜ÿ

The OS2CLU02 distribution archive (available as both OS2CLU02.ZIP and
OS2CLU02.RAR, to cater to different tastes) can be File Requested by
anyone at any time of the day from the following Fidonet nodes:

    1:109/921.0        TSR BBS in the U.S.
    2:257/609.0        Air Applewood BBS in the U.K.

It is also available on any Fidonet site around the world that carries the
Fidonet file distribution echo that is hosted by Fernwood BBS in the U.S..

It can also be found on the Hobbes FTP site run by New Mexico State
University in the U.S., and on the LEO FTP site in Germany.


ABOUT THE AUTHOR
˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜ÿ

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard is a professional computer programmer who
specialises in consultancy and development of operating systems and tools,
and who writes things like the OS/2 Command Line Utilities in his spare
time.  Other previous projects of his include such things as a complete
replacement for the runtime library for Borland C++ 3.1, allowing it to be
used to develop 16-bit OS/2 programs.  He also maintained the Highly
Unofficial Fidonet OS2PROG C++ Compiler Pros and Cons List for several
years, and is the moderator of the international OS2DOS Fidonet echo.  He
is currently working on a project which he believes will astonish 32-bit
OS/2 users.

The best, most reliable, and quickest, way to contact him is on Fidonet,
by sending netmail addressed to either

	Jonathan de Boyne Pollard, FIDONET#2:257/609.3

		or

	Jonathan de Boyne Pollard, FIDONET#1:109/921.70,

which are his two permanent "point" addresses.  Alternatively, you can
post a message in the Fidonet OS2PROG or OS2 echoes.

Another way to contact him is via the Internet mailbox
<J.deBoynePollard@tesco.net>.  Since this is a mailbox hosted by one of
the U.K.'s "free ISPs", and subject to the standard "use every 90 days or
it will be deleted" conditions that such ISPs impose, this latter address
is not guaranteed to be reliable, or even valid, in years to come however.

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From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca                         02-Sep-99 16:42:29
  To: All                                               02-Sep-99 16:41:13
Subj: How to ...

From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca (Martin Racette)

Hi guys,
 
I would like to know How to copy the 
content of an Audio cassette (music), to
a CD-R while using RSJ 
 
//-------------------------
Thank you in advance

Merci a l'avance

Martin

http://205.237.57.73/

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From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca                         02-Sep-99 19:35:07
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 06:09:27
Subj: Re: How to ...

From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca (Martin Racette)

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:52:09, 
jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John 
Hong) wrote:

> Martin Racette (racette@cablevision.qc.ca) wrote:
> 
> : I would like to know How to copy the 
> : content of an Audio cassette (music), to
> : a CD-R while using RSJ 
> 
> 	I don't think there is a way to do that directly onto a CDR 
> program.  Basically it would be a two-step process, get Digital Audio in 
> your Multimedia directory to store the song in .WAV file format first.  
> I've yet to try this, but you should be able to play the song on your 
> stereo and have it hooked up to your soundcard in the in-line plug and to 
> record with Digital Audio with the source being in-line.
> 
> 

So basicly I hvae to do it on a song per
song ! :-/

//-------------------------
Thank you in advance

Merci a l'avance

Martin

http://205.237.57.73/

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From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca                    02-Sep-99 17:52:04
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 06:09:29
Subj: Re: How to ...

From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong)

Martin Racette (racette@cablevision.qc.ca) wrote:

: I would like to know How to copy the 
: content of an Audio cassette (music), to
: a CD-R while using RSJ 

	I don't think there is a way to do that directly onto a CDR 
program.  Basically it would be a two-step process, get Digital Audio in 
your Multimedia directory to store the song in .WAV file format first.  
I've yet to try this, but you should be able to play the song on your 
stereo and have it hooked up to your soundcard in the in-line plug and to 
record with Digital Audio with the source being in-line.


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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            03-Sep-99 15:58:29
  To: All                                               03-Sep-99 19:57:18
Subj: Re: Another UNIMAINT bobble question

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <37C3DAD5.15316493@ibm.net>, Tony Wright <horseman@ibm.net> writes:
>mike.luther@ziplog.com wrote:
>
>> The August column isn't on site yet!  Grin ..

OK, me go back and look again ... signed Tonto!  :)

>Although I'm not sure whether Unimaint terminates at this point or
>continues. Thus are there more as yet undiscovered errors further down
>directory tree?

Mine suffered terminal amnesia.

>>     Lotus Word Pro^Smartmaster Templates
>
>Whats so unusually "queer" about this?   Unless you're referring to the
>CR/LF in the middle?
>It just makes the title a little more readable using the gui.

I was .. and you explained it; thanks!

>> As well there was a file there called:
>>
>>     Word Pro Document.LWP
>>
>> I thought perhaps one of these, for example, the Word ProDocument.LWP,
>> might have a strange attribute setting which is blocking the delete
>
>Certainly I found that SSOS2 1.1 had a rather "questionable"
>installation that resulted in copying Wordpro templates into TEMPLATES
>instead of shadowing them....
>Net result was Desktop dirs swelled by 15Mb........
>(Of course TEMPLATES is supposed to contain such files but arguably
>Lotus were ill advised to bloat the Desktop structure by this much!)
>I simply deleted/moved them back to a LOTUSW4 subdir where (IMHO) they
>should be and plonked a shadow in Templates.....
>Sporadically these Lotus templates also seem to dissappear anyway
>wherever they're located..... :-(
>
>YMMV....naturally.....

OK, I've learned some more.  I'm not sure I understand enough to go
amoverin with the Ark, just yet!  :)

>Define ordinary program?

>If you had an operational GUI and set the parent folders INCLUDE setting
>to "flags  is greater or equal   - - - -"  then the child folder would
>be visible and you could also force a delete.
>If you define "ordinary" as a program or cli that relies on the
>attributes(and doesn't bypass them) then your assumption "seems" to be
>correct.

I just learned some more.  It's hard to communicate when you aren't well
enough informed to use the language!  :)

>Errrr - point of order Madam Speaker but I think the honorable gentleman
>was really referring to INICLEAN?

All incompetency rises to points of order!  Grin...

>> What does this FOLDER!1 do?
>
>Default name for "Create another" > "Folder" is curiously enough
>"Folder" (created sometime previously no doubt but probably now
>removed.....<g>)
>You (or the "gremlins" in your keyboard<vbg>) then created another
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Is this what happens when the keyboard shifts state in
      DOS-VDM's and you pull the plug on it to reset it?

      Larger grin!

>folder and OS/2 dutifully realising you already had one named Folder
>called the new one Folder!1.
>(Possibly you had even copied FOLDER template in the now
>forgotten past or perhaps did a selective re-install that didn't quite
>complete correctly?)
>Remember that there are invalid characters in (HPFS) file/directoy names
>so that  "Folder:1" in gui appears as "Folder!1"
>on cli....  Now the former is typically what you get on the popup
>dialog(assuming you set your desktop defaults to prompt that is) when
>you copy or move a file/dir to a destination that contains a file/dir
>with same name.
>Similiarly "OS/2 System" appears as "OS!2 System"  and I won't insult
>your intelligence further by elaborating why<g>.

OK,  Me learnum more here.

>> Is it the problem?
>
>Yes (with >90% probability factor)..... but is it the only one? 
>- Read on.......

>Actually why bother killing(assume you mean delete) it if you are going
>to run INICLEAN under SYSRESTR covers?

Indeed.

>Better to do a c:\] attrib c:\desktop\*  -s -h -r /s
>first though just in case Unimaint didn't list all the errors<g>.
>(and for Chr*st sake don't apply this to root directory!<vbg>)

Oh I wouldn't dream of that even on a Midsummer's Night!  That would be
like going to sleep as the goalie in front of the net and dreaming of
the puck sailing bye!   Besides, all the files on the directory utility
would all change to the same color and I'm fascinated with them the way
they are displayed!

>How it get s/h attributes set? - Beats me guv - probably messing about
>with something (like Nowhere) and it got it by "inheritance"
>perhaps...... (the heriditary genetic influence of SOM's
>legacy <g>....). 
>Can't see the point of speculating on the many and varied ways you,
>a desktop enhancer,installation programme or the "anomalies" left in the
>WPS could have caused it though.

We could sell this as a new form of encrytion algorithim! They'd never
break it!

>Can you delete it safely? - Beats me again Guv..... what do you have in
>it? - Your sandwiches?
>.......I can't see from here -  move yer dang head out of the way......
>Well whadda yer know it's empty......

Yep.

>Seriously(as far as I can be without laughing up my sleeve) I turned
>that into a bit of a pointless question as you're deleting the
>desktop structure anyway!

Yep. Provided we can now wash it's mouth out with Lava soap!

>> Will the SYSRESTR.CMD then properly delete the desktop and re do it?
>
>Yep - should work now.... but end result depends on the integrity of the
>unzipped INI's/Desktop<g>.

Well .. as you note..

>Without being a total "party pooper" you may have been suffering from
>"incrementally creeping" ini damage for some time (hence your corrupt
>Archives).

That won't likely be a fault of Phil Karn!

>>  At
>> this point the only IBM 'officio' way I have of getting the desktop back
>> is the official replace with one of three options. whicn gets me back
>> the desktop, but only with SET DESKTOP=C:\DESKTOP mumbo jumbo in the
>> CONFIG.SYS.. Of course if I remove it from CONFIG.SYS .. no Desptop!
>
>Not surprising with that spelling<g>

Pagin Latin

>Well re-setting desktop in ini's is trivial with Rexx...... but it begs
>the question of how you managed to get all 3 Archives corrupted<g>.
>Did you leave "Create Archives....." setting enabled in order to get
>nominated for the Plonker of the Year award at the same time<g>?

Oh I didn't.  Since this whole mess with the archived troika only
spanned a period of about three weeks and the UNIMAINT deal was far
closer than that, even the first IBM "o f f i c i a l" way of doing it
was only a wekk back.  I just didn't want to go back even that far, if I
could help it..

>Presumably you tried CHECKINI /Dc:\desktop
>to reset the appropriate desktop flag in the ini's and also the
>appropriate incarntation to subsequently clean/repair them?
>A combination of both Unimaint and CHECKINI run at intervals should also
>ensure that I don't get the opportunity of making fun at your expense in
>the future<g>....

Tonto did not know about this tantilizing tidbit until the arrow came in
with a return address note tied to the shaft!  The dancing bear is
smarter now after discovering that someone left the camp stove on under
one corner of his pedestle, said another way!

>> Whatever help anyone can post here would be appreciated..
>
>Depends on how much of a sense of humour you have and how easily
>offended you are?<g>

The best possible use for a humor is to beat sense into the body by
making it walk around a bit!

>If you don't resolve problem and/or get assistance from someone else
>then post again(or email) -  (you take your "giggle" juice and I'll keep
>taking the anti-inflammatory tablets<g>).

Oh it's resolved, but not in the TCPIP sense!  :)

>However I don't think you'll need further help as you virually
>identified the fault and fixed it yourself anyway.....
>So was it just a bit of re-assuring "hand holding" you wanted?

Sure.  In all seriousness, the difference between knowledge and
understanding is the ability to take a brand new situation and
extrapolate other experience into it so that the outcome is correct for
you in the new solution you attempt.

You may know enough to solo the airplane before the instructor gets out
and walks back to the hanger, but you don't really understand what solo
flight is all about until it happens.

I've walked the half mile back to the hanger several hundred times in a
flight instruction career in another life.. :)

Thank you for taking the time to walk back for me with the explanations.

>Rgds Tony W   Email: horseman@ibm.net
>
>"humanum est errare: To err is human
>..... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
>....but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"

  Maybe .. but I suspect to REALLY foul them up will take at least
  34,000,000 lines of WIN-2000 AKA WIN-NT 5.0!


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