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From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua                                   23-Dec-99 16:16:14
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:27
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin)

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:17:31, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) wrote:

> In article <fIF9M9pMNugl-pn2-JjX9Mo3Oh7Xd@camb0340.capecod.net>,
> xyxmadxyx@xyxziplinkxyx.xyxnetxyx (mark davidson) wrote:
> >On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 08:02:19, "Link Guard Solutions Ltd."
> ><devdir@lgs.kiev.ua> wrote:
> >
> >> SafeFire PPP 0.9 beta 59
> >
> >> Check Link Guard solutions homepage (http://www.lgs.kiev.ua) to get Your
> >> copy.
> >
> >i have tried a multitude of times but am absolutely unable to download
> >the beta from your site.  it is extremely slow and the transfer
> >*never* completes.  please upload the safefire ppp beta to hobbes or
> >another more reliable site.
> >
> >if someone can point me to a more reliable download site for safefire
> >ppp, it will be much appreciated.
> >
> >thanks/regards, .. mark davidson
> 
> Try Injoy Firewall. http://www.fx.dk
> 
> Demo version is 2-user w/no rule-based firewall, but it's enough to
> show you how well it works. Download links from that site include
> Hobbes and BMT Micro (where you can also register it).
Hello.

I don't think that recommending Injoy Firewall to every user is good.
You know, SafeFire PPP and Injoy Firewall are supposed to work at different 
hardware - Serial (or PPPoE) and LAN respectively ;)

P.S. LGS encountered some problems due to too many downloads and now is 
proposing multiple alternative sites: check downloads page.

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From: kitchin@dca.net                                   23-Dec-99 14:24:24
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:27
Subj: Re: How to play MP3 through Netscape?

From: Bruce Kitchin <kitchin@dca.net>

Would you post this other script here.  I too have trouble with
net congestion at 56K.  Thanks

cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:

> In <83ot05$7lh$1@news.panix.com>, rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) writes:
> > <cotroneo@stny.lrun.com> writes:
> >>
> >> Z does work.
> >
> >Indeed, thanks. Your script makes the difference.
> >
> >What should the buffer size be for a 56k connection? With the default 32
> >I get a lot of hiccups as soon as there's the least bit of line
> >congestion.
> >
> >Pierre
> >--
>
> Z doesn't have a built in buffer yet. Dink may add it. Send him
> email. I have another version of the script that writes the whole
> file to disk first before playing it.
>
> 56k connections just don't work well with mp3 unless it is a low
> density mp3 file.
>
> Keith Cotroneo
> cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Dec-99 20:01:23
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: Difference between Java 1.1.7 vs. 1.1.8?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:29:15, Paul Zarembka 
<zarembka@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:

> What is the difference between Java 1.1.7 and 1.l.8?  The code for the
> latter is quite a bit larger.  Thanks, Paul Zarembka

I never had any problems with 1.1.7, but I updated to 1.1.8, when it 
became available. I have also put all of the updates on 1.1.8, and I 
haven't had any problems with any of them. I would suggest, that if 
you are going to update, you may want to go to 1.1.8, with the latest 
fix, since there does seem to be a bit of a performance improvement, 
and I think there are a few new features. If you already have 1.1.7 
installed, you may just want to install the latest updates for that, 
and wait for something new.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     23-Dec-99 20:01:25
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 questions

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:12:19, mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) 
wrote:

>         How does it get set up?  When 1.1.8 is installed or when
Communicator
> is
> installed?  Neither happened in my case.
> 

I already had JAVA 1.1.8 installed, when I installed Netscape 4.61, 
and it was just there. I had Netscape 4.04 installed, along with 
Netscape 2.02, when I installed JAVA 1.1.8, and it was just there, in 
both. I never had to do anything.

I have no idea why you are having a problem.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu                        23-Dec-99 15:16:10
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu (Richard Bumby)

"Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com> writes:

>On 22 Dec 1999 14:48:29 GMT, mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com wrote:

>>I would suggest contacting Sundial for further information.
>>Rollin@sundialsystems.com

>I suspected there was a problem here.  I e-mailed Support at Sundial early on
>in the life of this frustration but have not heard back.

>Is there a better way to shake an answer out of them?

It's a busy time of year.  Perhaps, only an abundance of patience is
required.  A company specializing in OS/2 applications in 1999 is not
likely to have a big Customer Service Department.

Sundial has been doing a good job with Mesa2.  They may not have
answered you because they haven't finished programming the patch for
you:-)

The script you posted looks like something I would like to have.  At
present, I am just leaving everything unprotected and use care when
inputting, but I try to add the bells and whistles to my worksheets
when I get time to fuss with scripts.  If I find anything, I'll post
again. 
-- 
R. T. Bumby **  Rutgers Math || Amer. Math. Monthly Problems Editor 1992--1996
bumby@math.rutgers.edu       ||   
Telephone:    [USA] 732-445-0277 (full-time message line) FAX 732-445-5530

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From: jgil@widomaker.com                                23-Dec-99 15:34:02
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: "Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com>

On 23 Dec 1999 15:16:21 -0500, Richard Bumby wrote:

>The script you posted looks like something I would like to have.  At
>present, I am just leaving everything unprotected and use care when
>inputting, but I try to add the bells and whistles to my worksheets
>when I get time to fuss with scripts. 

Well,  I've had something like it in 123 macro form since dirt and have
gotten too dependent on it I guess.
I can be careful but Shamrock, my Siamese, doesn't really care where he steps
when he jumps down off the top of the monitor.

I've one other problem.  'Find' will find all the cells whose value I specify
but the replace function doesn't want to replace them with the new value. 
Have you had any experience with that?


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From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca                          23-Dec-99 20:54:02
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: isaacl@sonics.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog)

Richard Steiner (rsteiner@visi.com) wrote:
: Here in comp.os.os2.apps, "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>
: spake unto us, saying:

: >What about Logoart, is that nearer to a paint program than Embellish?

: I forgot about that one.  Can it still be purchased/registered?

: Also, there's Blue Paint:

:   http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~pczarny/bpaint.html

: but it's pretty basic.

: Taking a different approach, how about a DOS program like NeoPaint?

:   ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/graphics/neopt32a.zip

Hmm...thanks for the tip! It looks somewhat promising, so I'll download it
and try it out.

I visited their website, and they are NOT shy about saying that it works
under OS/2. 1 point for Neosoft!



Thanks,
Isaac

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From: shoot@all.spammers                                23-Dec-99 21:09:24
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: Back Again/2000 compared to PSnS?

From: "Dan Kyhl" <shoot@all.spammers>

I use BA/2 Pro myself and like it a lot and have only tested PSnS a little to
see what it could.

The GUI of PSnS is very different than the way normal GUIs look like.
To me it's a little confusing to come from BA/2 to PSnS, but I guess that is
just for a period of time.

But one thing I dislike very much is that the drive letters of the backup are
fixed.
That is, backing up from a system with drives C: to E: you are only able to
restore to those same drive letters, which means that you can't restore your
data to drive F:.

Other than that I think you get the same functionality.

Dan

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:25:45 -0500, L. Engelhart wrote:

>I'll be upgrading from WS 4.0 to WeB soon after the New Year and need to
>decide whether or not to also upgrade from BA/2 Pro to BA/2000 Server or
>to use PSnS which ships with WeB.  Can anybody post a comparison of the
>two?
>
>Thanks.
>
>



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From: p.engels@gmx.de                                   23-Dec-99 22:59:08
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: StarBack for OS/2 - 10th Beta

From: "Peter Engels" <p.engels@gmx.de>

Hi

I have just released the 10th beta of StarBack for OS/2. This program
is a PM-Utility, which is able to backup and restore the most important
pathes of a StarOffice 5.x installation. While the program messages are
available in englisch and german, the documentation is only german at
the moment. Sorry for that. Beside some other OS/2 freeware utilities I
wrote, you can download it from :

http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs0ad

Please let me know your experiences!

This OS/2 system uptime is 06 hours, 36 minutes and 37 seconds.
-- 
MfG / Regards

	Peter Engels


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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              23-Dec-99 22:22:09
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: How to play MP3 through Netscape?

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <38627701.178596BA@dca.net>, Bruce Kitchin <kitchin@dca.net> writes:
>Would you post this other script here.  I too have trouble with
>net congestion at 56K.  Thanks

I did post the script earlier, but it won't help your
download speed problems. It is used to send the
mp3 stream to the Z player.

Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          24-Dec-99 07:41:18
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On 23 Dec 1999 20:54:04 GMT, e-frog wrote:

:>Richard Steiner (rsteiner@visi.com) wrote:
:>: Here in comp.os.os2.apps, "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>
:>: spake unto us, saying:
:>
:>: >What about Logoart, is that nearer to a paint program than Embellish?
:>
:>: I forgot about that one.  Can it still be purchased/registered?
:>
:>: Also, there's Blue Paint:
:>
:>:   http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~pczarny/bpaint.html
:>
:>: but it's pretty basic.
:>
:>: Taking a different approach, how about a DOS program like NeoPaint?
:>
:>:   ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/graphics/neopt32a.zip
:>
:>Hmm...thanks for the tip! It looks somewhat promising, so I'll download it
:>and try it out.
:>
:>I visited their website, and they are NOT shy about saying that it works
:>under OS/2. 1 point for Neosoft!
:>
:>
:>
:>Thanks,
:>Isaac

I found a copy of LogoArt on one of my backup tapes from
early 1998. It's at the same level as the one mentioned on
LogoArt's homepage. When I tried to play with it it crashed
on my system, just died. It went straight to the trashcan.

Cheers

Wayne


******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: brittonm@sympatico.ca                             23-Dec-99 22:56:27
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: RSJ help request ...

From: Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca>

Hi People....

Well after a couple of days I have finally got the Acer working....
I experienced TRAP on boot, updated danis506 driver
Then device not found when mounting, sign on string mismatch
System hangs, turn machine off after making changes to clear memory

Here's how I would proceed knowing what I know now,

1) installed RSJ with no changes to default

2) installed latest danis506 driver, check out the docs they are superbly
    written and give an excellent insight into EIDE setups in general, well
worth the
    read

3) Tricky Part.. boot machine and note down the sign on string for the CD that
    you want to be WORM, the hard part is that the message disappears too
quickly
    (that's the tricky part)
     In my case it read "ATAPI   CD-R/RW CRW6206A"
     Critical :- make sure the spaces are accurate, in my case 3 and 1

4) Now edit config.sys line for LOCKCDR.FLT to identify the drive you want to
    be WORM You may or may not have multiple CD's , it is of no consequence,
you
    ALWAYS identify the specific drive. You can use only the initial UNIQUE
    characters of the sign on if they are not ambiguous, ie ATAPI is too
general
    wheras IMS is reasonably unique. I recommend the use of the full string.

     In my case I added  -i: "ATAPI   CD-R/RW CRW6206A"
     Critical :- make sure the spaces are accurate, in my case 3 and 1

5) Now find and open in an editor the file cddrv.inf
     Here you will find a listing of drives and their configurations.
     If you find an entry for your drive DOUBLE CHECK that the sign on string
     in the config.sys corresponds EXACTLY (including spaces) to the entry in
     the .inf file, column 4. If it is not EXACTLY the same edit the entry in
this file
     (BTW please backup)

     If you do not find an entry applicable for your drive, find one that
either you
     know is equivalent to your drive, or one that appears to be similar. My
Acer is a
     2x2x6 speed IDE drive so I used the Philips entry, (no reason it was just
the first I
     found close to mine)

     Copy this entry to the end of the file, and edit so that it relates to
     your drive.  In my case it looks like this, (note this is all on one
line)

Acer       "CRW 6206A"         N/A    "ATAPI   CD-R/RW CRW6206A" "PHILIPS
CDD3610"   cdatapi   ATAPI      N/A

6) At this time you are ready to boot, when I did a soft boot, my machibe hung
    on the blue screen with mouse clock icon.
    When I did a switch off everything worked fine.

Please use common sense and make sure you back everything up etc. Use
ALT-F1/F2

to fix config.sys problems

Good Luck, and wish you all success
Now to find out how good RSJ is....

Regards
Britt



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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 23-Dec-99 10:23:04
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: How do I reflow text in Star Writer?

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

cbrey@ibm.net (Carter Brey) wrote:

>Howdy--
>
>I'm using Star Office 5.1 and need to reflow my text in a very long 
>(120pp) document. I'm losing my mind because I cannot find out how to 
>do this simple thing, and am having to shift every single line up to 
>the previous line in order to make it meet the margin. Can someone 
>please help me? Thanks.
>
>Carter Brey (cbrey@ibm.net)      
>http://www.newyorkphilharmonic.org/shopping/showorchestra.cfm?xid_orch
>=47        
>Brought to you by OS/2 Warp Version 4 and ProNews/2 
>

No one seems to have answered, so I'll suggest checking out 
the Star newsgroups.  There's a list of them at 

	http://www.sun.com/products/staroffice/newsgroups.html

Good luck -- 
 

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: ZIKONYL@ibm.net                                   23-Dec-99 23:22:07
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: dBASE clone wanted

From: Roberto Gainza <ZIKONYL@ibm.net>


John Poltorak escribi:

> Has anyone ever come across a *text-mode* dBASE clone for OS/2?
>
> ..ideally, one which will read dBASE programs.
>

You can see Dbexpert is nice, sql, dbf, db2, oracle... and for OS/2.
The support is very good.
http://www.sundialsystems.com


>
> Wonder what Borland have done with dBASE IV... I'm surprised there isn't
> a GNU version around.
>
> --
> John

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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   23-Dec-99 17:55:26
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS/2?

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

I understand the resentment: Why should a piece of software for platform A 
cost twice the price of the same software for platform B?

But ... if you can get past that, RSJ really works, and a 650Mb CD-RW makes a 
much more efficient sneaker net than 1.44Mb floppies, or backup medium than 
tapes.

On 22 Dec 1999 20:55:08 GMT, Don Morse wrote:

:>  
:>  Did you pay the $189 for the program?  seems steep, with the Winblows 
version
:>  at $95 and the Adaptec s/w free with purchase..  I'd really like to use 
the
:>  RSJ s/w, but that's a little rich for me...


Peter

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Wadsack Management; Madison WI USA
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From: heafnerj@interpath.com                            23-Dec-99 19:52:26
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Printer Recommendations...

From: Joe Heafner <heafnerj@interpath.com>

Hi.

This may not be the appropriate group, but I saw no other any more
approproiate, so here's my question.

I'm in the market for a color printer (used a BJ-200 for 6 years now and
it's time to upgrade). Any recommendations? What about the HP DeskJet
812C? Cannon BJC-2000? BJC-1000? Lexmark Z11?

			Thanks,

-- 

                        -- Joe Heafner

Joe Heafner, Astronomy and Physics Instructor. Work:(828)327-7000 x4246
my surname with my first initial at interpath dot com
http://home.interpath.com/heafnerj/

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            24-Dec-99 01:27:11
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: Re: Printer Recommendations...

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

Based on information here or in other Newsgroups I bought a LexMark
3200. I downloaded OS/2 drivers from the 'Net.

I haven't had time to use it much, but it seems to do OK, although it's
slow compared to the LaserJet III. There are certainly faster inkjet
printers, but the price was right. I got mine from BUY.COM for a little
over $100. There is a $50 mail-in rebate available for a few days longer
too.

Alan


Joe Heafner wrote:

 <snip> 

> I'm in the market for a color printer (used a BJ-200 for 6 years now and
> it's time to upgrade). Any recommendations? What about the HP DeskJet
> 812C? Cannon BJC-2000? BJC-1000? Lexmark Z11?

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From: tgal@pobox.com                                    23-Dec-99 18:04:09
  To: smartsuite-os2@egroups.com                        26-Dec-99 03:26:28
Subj: European glyph

To: smartsuite-os2@egroups.com
From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com>

In WordPro SmartSuite 1.x for OS/2: how do I enable 
my keyboard in order to enter Western European glyphs 
onto the document I am authoring?

I do not need the useless scheme of:
--opening a table of all the characters
--clipboarding ONE SINGLE character
--going back to the document
--PASTING the ONE SINGLE character (HOW STUPID!)
--GOING BACK to the aforementioned table
--clipboarding a SECOND SINGLE character (HOW DUMB!)
--etc., etc. . . . you get the picture.

Happy Warping!

-- 
 ===>  tgal@pobox.com


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From: e-black1@uiuc.edu                                 23-Dec-99 21:16:08
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Ghostscript ps2epsi question.

From: "Edgar F. Black" <e-black1@uiuc.edu>

Hi Everyone.

Have any one successfully use the ps2epsi script that comes with
ghostview-ghostscript for OS/2 ?

What do I need to make it work.

Thanks

--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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820 E. Oakland # 108
Urbana Il, 61802
e-black1@uiuc.edu
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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              24-Dec-99 05:42:11
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: Difference between Java 1.1.7 vs. 1.1.8?

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


Paul Zarembka wrote:
> 
> What is the difference between Java 1.1.7 and 1.l.8?  The code for the
> latter is quite a bit larger.  Thanks, Paul Zarembka

  I believe it was with 1.1.8 that a Swing library was added and
RMI/IIOP capability. There were also some notes about making it
compatible for 1.2.x.

-- 

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: smariga@gte.net                                   22-Dec-99 13:22:28
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: E.exe gets error inDOSCALL1.dll

From: Alex Smariga <smariga@gte.net>

All of a sudden I'm getting an error each time I terminate E.EXE.  The 
error is a trap with a code of C0010001 in DOSCALL1.dll.

The version of DOSCALL1 I have is 144490 bytes and dated 4-12-99.

Any idea what might be causing it.  I'm running FP12 in WSeB.

Alex Smariga



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From: newyear@KILL.deepchaos.SPAM.com                   24-Dec-99 02:41:24
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: #newyear conference on IRC.

From: newyear <newyear@KILL.deepchaos.SPAM.com>

The people at WEBBnet are hosting an IRC conference on the
31st December, 1999. Some of you guys may have to work that
day to ensure that office systems continue to function after
midnight. This channel provides an opportunity for geeks to
meet their peers from around the world to share experiences
and to eliminate boredom. It's a good place to hang out if
you can't be at one of those "Times Square" parties.

For further information please see:

http://www.deepchaos.com/newyear.html
http://www.webbnet.org/server.html

Thanks.

------
Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net
Complaints to news@netfront.net

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From: mljd@incom.net                                    24-Dec-99 02:02:11
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: OS/2 no longer supported by PartitionMagic?

From: "Mike L." <mljd@incom.net>

"Gerd Thier" <gerd.thier@arcormail.de> wrote in message
news:38625690.1E604C11@arcormail.de...
>
>
> >
> > "Bob Eager" <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-6fdtdJr9PSlB@man-180.dialup.zetnet.co.uk...

> > > This of course completely fails to answer the question. Worse, NOTHING
> > > in the reply (or in the sales blurb for ServerMagic) even MENTIONS
> > > OS/2.
> >
> > In case you haven't heard, Bob, OS/2 has been
> > dea.....................................
>
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
>
> The last blue screen or sys hang ???
> The last lost data due sys error ???

Never ;-)


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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 24-Dec-99 00:18:01
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>
spake unto us, saying:

>On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:54:58 -0600, Richard Steiner wrote:
>
>:>LogoArt is not at BMT Micro, and the URL above works but has no image
>:>files at all and the online order link results in a 404 error.
>:>
>:>That doesn't look good.  :-(
>
>I did a search at BMT and followed the links for a secure
>registration so I assumed it was still there.

Hmmm.  While LogoArt is no longer on the BMT general product listing,
the Worklab site doesn't appear to link to the LogoArt pages anymore,
and the old LogoArt pages look to be in very bad shape (abandoned?),
it *is* something you can still register at BMT.

Strange.

>I may have a copy on one of my backup tapes...

A copy of the last public beta I knew about still exists on Hobbes:

  ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/graphics/draw/lartb307.zip

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                                  Ni!

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 24-Dec-99 00:37:20
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2 = Embellish.

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, lifedata@xxvol.com spake unto us, saying:

>rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) said:
>
>>An additional note: the paint tools do not show up "by default" on the
>>main toolbar,
>
>Is that why mine comes up with most of the buttons grayed out when I start
>it?  Actually not grayed out, just gray.

Probably.  You need to select File->New to create a new bitmap file, or
you need to open at least one existing file.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                Liberalism - 1) The art of misinformation.

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 24-Dec-99 00:40:19
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, chris@os2ezine.com (Chris Wenham)
spake unto us, saying:

>On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:48:07, "Wayne Bickell" 
><wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
>
>> What about Logoart, is that nearer to a paint program than Embellish?
>
> LogoArt is a vector drawing program and FAR removed from painting.

True, but you can take your entire vector drawing created in LogoArt
and save it in any one of something like 15 different bitmap formats.

In other words, it's a vector tool for creating bitmaps.  :-)

> The best program in the "painting and dabbling" category isn't 
>available for OS/2. It's called Fractal Painter and you can get it for
>Mac or Windows. If all he wants is an OS/2 clone of the Windows 
>Paintbrush, he should try PhotoTiger or NeoN 2D Pixel.

Ah!  I'd completely forgotten about this one, and it's available on BMT
Micro's web site (http://www.bmtmicro.com) for ordering as well.

I wonder if the Mac Fractal Painter would run under Executor?

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
        If only women came with pull-down menus and on-line help!

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 24-Dec-99 00:45:19
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, chris@os2ezine.com (Chris Wenham)
spake unto us, saying:

> Corel Draw is a vector drawing program, not a bitmap/raster painter 
>like what this guy is looking for.
> The two types of program are fundamentally different and designed for
>different tasks.

True in the general case, but not always true.

For example, GeoDraw (part of the old PC/GEOS-based Geoworks Ensemble
2.0 suite, and still part of NewDeal's New Deal Office product) had
both vector drawing and bitmap painting tools, and you could use both
sets of tools (and even convert selected shapes back and forth between
being a bitmap object and being a vector object) within a given drawing.

In fact, the NewWrite (formerly GeoWrite) application in the current
New Deal Office demo lets you create an object using the object tools,
convert it to a bitmap so you can play with pixel-level tools on it,
and then convert it back to a vector object for resizing or whatever.

http://www.newdealinc.com for the curious.  Very nice software, if a
little limited in terms of video drivers.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                            Happy Holidays!!

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From: jgordon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au                        24-Dec-99 07:28:07
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: BA2000 v Fastback

From: jgordon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au

I've been comparing the BA2000 evaluation version with my old, 
but still reliable, copy of Fastback for OS/2. While I backup 
everything once a week to a Jaz drive, my main use of backup 
software is once a week on Friday to transfer changed files 
for that week to my home computer. On Sunday night I make a 
backup for a similar transfer to my office machine on Monday. 
In comparing BA2000 to Fastback I have found the following:

BA2000 is slower in making the floppy backup (which for me usually 
takes 2 to 3 disks) in part because it requires that you click OK after 
inserting each new disk in order to continue the process. Fastback 
seamlessly writes to each new floppy as it is inserted. But the BA2000
algorithm also appears to be slower. In testing this I set compression in
BA2000 to "balance speed and size" and in Fastback to "device default".
With 3.7MB to backup BA2000 took 3.54 minutes and used 3 disks while
Fastback took 1.55 and used 2.

BA2000 is dramatically slower in restoring a single file. From the set
above, I restored one 350kb file residing on the first disk. Fastback
jumped immediately to the file and restored it in 31 secs. BA2000 spent
a long time "seeking" the file and eventually restored it in 6.30 minutes!
That's some difference.

I am still considering buying BA2000 in part because I appreciate that
the developer is continuing to provide OS/2 products. And that's worth
supporting, even if this product is a bit on the slow side for floppy 
backups.

Cheers,
John Gordon
jgordon@arts.uwa.edu.au

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From: jgordon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au                        24-Dec-99 07:30:05
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: Help: BA/2000 date filtering?

From: jgordon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au

In <3860d71d.83535247@picard.cds-inc.com>, spamtrap@cds-inc.com (Brad Benson)
writes:
>jgordon@arts.uwa.edu.au wrote:
>
>] I'm trying out the BA2000 demo and cannot figure out how to specify a date 
>] filter for an *entire* backup set. Any help on 
>] this would be greatly appreciated. 
>[[deletions]]

>Add an exclude pattern of * with the include sub directories checkbox
>checked, then specify the date using the fields provided.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Brad
>replace "spamtrap" with "benson" in my reply address

Thanks for the quick reply, Brad. Much appreciated.
Cheers,
John Gordon

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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        24-Dec-99 09:54:25
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: dBASE clone wanted

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

In <3862A095.A5EDE8C@ibm.net>, Roberto Gainza <ZIKONYL@ibm.net> writes:
>
>
>John Poltorak escribi:
>
>> Has anyone ever come across a *text-mode* dBASE clone for OS/2?
>>
>> ..ideally, one which will read dBASE programs.
>>
>
>You can see Dbexpert is nice, sql, dbf, db2, oracle... and for OS/2.
>The support is very good.
>http://www.sundialsystems.com

But can it run in text mode?

>
>>
>> Wonder what Borland have done with dBASE IV... I'm surprised there isn't
>> a GNU version around.
>>
>> --
>> John
>
>--
>-------cambio mail-------------------------------------------------
>Esta direccin (ZIKONYL@IBM.NET) de mail cambiara el 1/Octubre/2000
>por ZIKONYL@ATTGLOBAL.NET, en caso de problemas puedes utilizar
>esta otra 106010.3065@compuserve.com
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Saludos.
>Roberto Gainza
>
>

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               24-Dec-99 04:45:04
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Fax

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

question.

has anyone tested fax software with 2 modems on the same computer?

I use quick link II 3.1 which I hadn't used in a long time, but it looks like
parts of it got broken when I upgraded from a 486 to a pentium III in fall 98.

I'd like a reply ASAP if possible.


Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509


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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    24-Dec-99 12:09:04
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re:PMView 2.0 Scheduled for Jan 5th, 2000 Release

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

Here's the latest info from Peter Nielsen, the developer of PMView:

================================================================

BMT Micro still has not got the key update system up and running.
I have provided them with all the tools they need a week ago.
Unfortunately the timing was bad and they've been busy with
upgrading their servers and database this week.

I hope you understand that I cannot possibly release PMView v2.0
until there is a way to upgrade your keys.

Yesterday I tried to update the web pages. I was unable to do this
because when I tried to update any files I got a "permission
denied"... Raja, who handled the last update of the web site,
is in Florida on vacation and cannot be reached until January 1.

I will also be out of town between Decemeber 28 - January 4
for (well-deserved, I hope) vacation. Since Raja doesn't even
have OS/2 installed any more, noone but me can provide extensive
support if there are problems with the OS/2 version. I had hoped
that the OS/2 version would have been released yesterday latest.
Relesing it on Dec 27 is probably not a good idea, since it means
you would have to wait 1 week (until I'm back) if there is a
problem...

BMT Micro also think it's a good idea to postpone the release until
January 5, since this lets them test their new systems thoroughly.

Best regards,
Peter

================================================================

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*  Dan Casey                                                 *
*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
**************************************************************
*  E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key             *
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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    24-Dec-99 12:09:04
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <47fkd6T3ejeb-pn2-roqvOMHJxNEC@tivv>,
tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin) wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:17:31, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) wrote:
>>
>> Try Injoy Firewall. http://www.fx.dk
>>
>> Demo version is 2-user w/no rule-based firewall, but it's enough to
>> show you how well it works. Download links from that site include
>> Hobbes and BMT Micro (where you can also register it).
>Hello.
>
>I don't think that recommending Injoy Firewall to every user is good.
>You know, SafeFire PPP and Injoy Firewall are supposed to work at different
>hardware - Serial (or PPPoE) and LAN respectively ;)
>
>P.S. LGS encountered some problems due to too many downloads and now is
>proposing multiple alternative sites: check downloads page.

SafeFire is based on the same code as Injoy (long story that I won't
go into, here). PPoE (PPP Over Ethernet) is implemented in Injoy
Firewall and currently undergoing the final stages of testing before
release. If you have the need for PPoE (becoming more common with DSL
connections), e-mail Bjarne at FX Communications, and he'll send you
the test version.

There are several different versions of the Injoy product, depending
on your needs. The Injoy Dialer is for dial-up via a Modem or ISDN
Dial-Up. The Injoy Firewall (formerly known as Injoy Gateway) is for
use with a LAN connection via Cable Modem or DSL. I've used both of
these products (the dialer with both a modem and an External ISDN TA)
for quite awhile, and the support from FX is outstanding.

There are also a few other products that FX has available for more
specialized needs. All of the information on their products is
available at their website:

http://www.fx.dk


--
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*  Dan Casey                                                 *
*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
**************************************************************
*  E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key             *
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From: willem_merkenhof@my-deja.com                      24-Dec-99 12:35:12
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: European glyph

From: willem_merkenhof@my-deja.com

In article <3862D4A3.C239CFFA@pobox.com>,
  "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com> wrote:
> In WordPro SmartSuite 1.x for OS/2: how do I enable =
>
> my keyboard in order to enter Western European glyphs =
>
> onto the document I am authoring?
>
> I do not need the useless scheme of:
> --opening a table of all the characters
> --clipboarding ONE SINGLE character
> --going back to the document
> --PASTING the ONE SINGLE character (HOW STUPID!)
> --GOING BACK to the aforementioned table
> --clipboarding a SECOND SINGLE character (HOW DUMB!)
> --etc., etc. . . . you get the picture.
>
> Happy Warping!
>
> -- =
>
>  =3D=3D=3D>  tgal@pobox.com
>
>
=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9
=A9=
>
=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9
=A9=
> =A9=A9=A9=A9
> InfoBaHn on:  Rockwell, Netscape, InJOY, and OS/2
> ____________________________________________________
> ((( BOXER )))  fassst, 32-bit character mode editor
>
> http://www.boxersoftware.com/
>
=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9
=A9=
>
=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9
=A9=
> =A9=A9=A9=A9
> ((( InJOY ))) INTERNET DIALER apparatus EXTRAORDINAIRE!
>
> http://www.fx.dk/injoy
>
=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9
=A9=
>
=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9
=A9=
> =A9=A9=A9=A9
> ((( BLOWFISH ))) ENCRYPTION for users/developers.
>
> http://www.counterpane.com/blowfish.html
>
=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9
=A9=
>
=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9
=A9=
> =A9=A9=A9=A9
>

You can use the old WordPerfect tric of pressing the "ALT" key and
keying a number using the numericpad. You will find most of the
characters in the range 130 - 140.

Hope this helps.
 Willem.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: cocke@catherders.com                              24-Dec-99 07:52:27
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:26:29
Subj: Re: E.exe gets error inDOSCALL1.dll

From: Michael W. Cocke <cocke@catherders.com>

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:22:56 -0800, Alex Smariga wrote:

>All of a sudden I'm getting an error each time I terminate E.EXE.  The 
>error is a trap with a code of C0010001 in DOSCALL1.dll.
>
>The version of DOSCALL1 I have is 144490 bytes and dated 4-12-99.
>
>Any idea what might be causing it.  I'm running FP12 in WSeB.
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Umm.  There are no fixes available yet from IBM for WSeB.  FP12 is for 
Warp 4. You wanna say again what you're running?



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                The new email address is cocke@catherders.com   
                 The web page is at http://www.catherders.com

               Because network administration is like herding cats.

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From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net                 24-Dec-99 01:29:27
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com> wrote:

>I can be careful but Shamrock, my Siamese, doesn't really care where he steps
>when he jumps down off the top of the monitor.

Don't tell me -- your Manx cat's name is Confucius?

-- 
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: jgil@widomaker.com                                24-Dec-99 10:27:18
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: "Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com>

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:29:55 -0500, Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:

>Don't tell me -- your Manx cat's name is Confucius?

No, but I understand why you would ask <g>.

Actually, Shamrock showed up on our doorstep on St. Patrick's day last year
and decided he wanted to live with us.  Thus, the name!
Please remove X for e-mail reply


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                24-Dec-99 10:55:06
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: ? about Netscape function

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

I'm using Netscape 4.61 GA.  When aging delete or manual delete of history
happens, the Location Bar cache (Hand entered URLS) also goes bye-bye.  Is
this how it works for everybody?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: lifedata@xxvol.com                                24-Dec-99 10:58:02
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2 = Embellish.

From: lifedata@xxvol.com

rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) said:
>>it?  Actually not grayed out, just gray.

>Probably.  You need to select File->New to create a new bitmap file, or
>you need to open at least one existing file.

Well it sure looks ugly with those gray blobs all over it.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: jricci@.nospam.ibm.net                            24-Dec-99 16:30:00
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS/2?

From: jricci@.nospam.ibm.net (Joe Ricci)

Huh?
The NT and OS2 cost almost the same!
Check the web site.
This product works great and allows me to use my CDRW as part of the 
file system


On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:55:53, "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net> wrote:

> I understand the resentment: Why should a piece of software for platform A 
> cost twice the price of the same software for platform B?
> 
> But ... if you can get past that, RSJ really works, and a 650Mb CD-RW makes
a 
> much more efficient sneaker net than 1.44Mb floppies, or backup medium than 
> tapes.
> 
> On 22 Dec 1999 20:55:08 GMT, Don Morse wrote:
> 
> :>  
> :>  Did you pay the $189 for the program?  seems steep, with the Winblows 
> version
> :>  at $95 and the Adaptec s/w free with purchase..  I'd really like to use 
> the
> :>  RSJ s/w, but that's a little rich for me...
> 
> 
> Peter
> 
> */------------------------------------------------------
> Peter Wadsack <wadsack@ibm.net>
> Wadsack Management; Madison WI USA
> ------------------------------------------------------*/
> 
> 


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From: tgal@pobox.com                                    24-Dec-99 08:45:02
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: European glyph

From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com>

I am looking at the US standard codepage, cp 850, 
and I see that European glyphs are scattered over 
the range of codes 128 through 255, that is a 
total of 127 codes, and there are on average 10 
characters per language that I am interested in: 
Spanish, French, German.  Which means I would 
have to memorize at least 30 random codes (i.e., 
unlike the multiplication tables, without a 
rime, reason, or pattern to their organization).

Of course I could memorize that 144=E acute accent, 
and 130=e acute accent, etc.  But I can't help 
the nagging feeling that after spending close to 
3,000 US dollars on hardware and software, I could 
expect the DRAM and hard disk memory do the 
memorizing for me, and the software allow me to 
enter the glyphs with the ease of an intuitive 
method.  There is software that remaps the 
keyboard at the touch of a key: I expected it 
of WordPro, and my question is HOW DOES WORDPRO
PROVIDE WESTERN EUROPEAN CHARACTERS ENTRY?

It would be a sorry ass word processor if it 
didn't allow such functionality with ease!


willem_merkenhof@my-deja.com wrote:
> 
> You can use the old WordPerfect tric of pressing the "ALT" key and
> keying a number using the numericpad. You will find most of the
> characters in the range 130 - 140.
> 
> Hope this helps.
>  Willem.
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

-- 
 ===>  tgal@pobox.com


InfoBaHn on:  Rockwell, Netscape, InJOY, and OS/2
____________________________________________________
((( BOXER )))  fassst, 32-bit character mode editor

http://www.boxersoftware.com/

((( InJOY ))) INTERNET DIALER apparatus EXTRAORDINAIRE!

http://www.fx.dk/injoy

((( BLOWFISH ))) ENCRYPTION for users/developers.

http://www.counterpane.com/blowfish.html


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From: tgal@pobox.com                                    24-Dec-99 08:54:11
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Red tacks in 4.61

From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com>

What does the red tack icon on top of the news item 
icon in Netscape 4.61 mean?

-- 
 ===>  tgal@pobox.com


InfoBaHn on:  Rockwell, Netscape, InJOY, and OS/2
____________________________________________________
((( BOXER )))  fassst, 32-bit character mode editor

http://www.boxersoftware.com/

((( InJOY ))) INTERNET DIALER apparatus EXTRAORDINAIRE!

http://www.fx.dk/injoy

((( BLOWFISH ))) ENCRYPTION for users/developers.

http://www.counterpane.com/blowfish.html


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From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com                               24-Dec-99 12:00:21
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: BA2000 v Fastback

From: Brad BARCLAY <bbarclay@ca.ibm.com>

jgordon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote:
> I am still considering buying BA2000 in part because I appreciate that
> the developer is continuing to provide OS/2 products. And that's worth
> supporting, even if this product is a bit on the slow side for floppy
> backups.

	Just a slight aside, please note that FastBack Plus for OS/2 has never
been certified for Y2K compatibility, and never will be.  There could
potntially be some serious problems using it after the New Year.

	If you haven't tested it already, I suggest making a backup of your
data now, set your clock forward to Jan 1st 2000, and then create a
second backup.  Restore it, and verify that the file dates are correct
and that the restore was successful.  Then, don't forget to set yor
clock back :).

	Additionally, be sure to make a backup of your data on Dec 31st.

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  bbarclay@ca.ibm.com		Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               24-Dec-99 11:14:06
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: re: fax

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: Fax
BY: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

>I have a 7x24 internet connection via modem and use another modem to connect
t
>client sites at the same time so yes two modems on Aurora is ok.

I wonder if you understood my question.

I was trying to test the fax portion of the 2 modems by sending/receiving
between the 2 on the same computer thru the 2 phone lines.
-


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From: chris@os2ezine.com                                24-Dec-99 17:50:20
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: chris@os2ezine.com (Chris Wenham)

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 06:40:39, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) 
wrote:

> 
> True, but you can take your entire vector drawing created in LogoArt
> and save it in any one of something like 15 different bitmap formats.
>  
> In other words, it's a vector tool for creating bitmaps.  :-)

 The final result of any vector program is almost always going to be a
bitmap anyway. In order to display it on the screen it must have a 
copy translated into a bitmap. A printer will ultimately turn it into 
a bitmap, too.

 Just because can save to a raster based file format does NOT mean 
that it's a substitute. A chainsaw can cut wood into shapes, but it's 
no substitute for a lathe.

Regards,

Chris Wenham - editor@os2ezine.com
The views expressed are mine.

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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              24-Dec-99 18:10:08
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: dBASE clone wanted

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <386342ea.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John
Poltorak) writes:
>In <3862A095.A5EDE8C@ibm.net>, Roberto Gainza <ZIKONYL@ibm.net> writes:
>>
>>
>>John Poltorak escribi:
>>
>>> Has anyone ever come across a *text-mode* dBASE clone for OS/2?
>>>
>>> ..ideally, one which will read dBASE programs.
>>>
>>
>>You can see Dbexpert is nice, sql, dbf, db2, oracle... and for OS/2.
>>The support is very good.
>>http://www.sundialsystems.com
>
>But can it run in text mode?
>

Check os2 commander. It is text mode and has a built
in dbase viewer/editor.

hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2//util/browser/os2c-124.zip

Here is the summary of features from the .inf file:

 
 The OS/2-Commander has an integrated DBF-viewer and editor. 
 If the scrollbar is placed on a file with the exytension .dbf, F3 / F4
automatically starts the dbf-viewer/editor 
 (SHIFT- F3 will always start the standard viewer). 
 You may edit records in a DBF- file, delete them, add new records at the end
of the  file and undelete 
 previously deleted records. 
 
 Please notice that the OS/2-Commander will never change Index-files that
belong to databases! Whenever you 
 edit an indexed field or pack the database, you will have to re-index the
database afterwards! 
 
 The functions in detail:   
 With Page Up/Down you may scroll through the database, Home and End will move 
to the first / last record. 
 If a record includes fields that cannot be displayed on one page you can
sroll  the screen with the arrow-keys. 
 AAdds an empty record at the end of the file. 
 D Deletes the current record from the file. 
 U Undeletes a previously deleted record. 
 F1 Shows the Help-window. 
 F2 Displays some information about the database file and its fields. 
 F3 Starts the browser that displays a list of the records. 
 F4 or E Edits the current record. 
 F5 Moves to record number. 
 F7 or S Searches for a record. For further information read "Search- and
Browse- Filters". 
 F8 Packs the database. All records marked as deleted will be finally ereased
from the file and can NOT be 
 undeleted anymore! 
 Please notice that the OS/2-Commander will never change indexes that belong
to databases! Whenever you edit 
 an indexed field or pack the database, you will have to re-index the database 
afterwards! 
 F9 Allows you to enter filters for the browse-function (F3). Read also
"Search- and Browse- Filters". 
 F10 or Q exits the DBF-module. 
 
 Search- and Browse-Filters   
 
 The Search-function (F7) as well as the filters (F9) in the browser (F3) work 
after the following principles: 
 
 If you enter only one Searchstring without any other options, every field in
every  record will be checked. All 
 the records that contain the searchstring in any field will be listed. 
 
 If you only want to search in a special field use this syntax.: 
 
     @<fieldname> = <"searchstring"> 
 
 The searchstring must be put into quotation-marks. For example, if you want
to search for the sting "WARP" in 
 the field "PROGNAME", the correct syntax looks like this: 
 
     @progname = "warp" 
 
 You may combine up to 5 searchstrings with logical AND or OR, but you can't
combine AND with OR. 
 Enter a logical AND as ".AND." or as "&", a logical OR as ".OR." or as ",". 
 
 The following contructions are possible for an AND-search: 
 
      @<fieldname> = <"searchstring"> .AND. <fieldname> = <"searchstring"> 
 
 Example: 
      @progname = "os2com" .and. progdesc = "Commander" 
 
   or 
      @<fieldname> = <"searchstring"> & <fieldname> = <"searchstring"> 
 
 Example: 
      @PROGNAME = "warp" & PROGDESC = "server" 
 
 
 The following contructions are possible for an OR-search: 
 
      @<fieldname> = <"searchstring"> .OR. <fieldname> = <"searchstring"> 
 
 Example: 
      @progname = "os2com" .or. progdesc = "567890" 
 
   or 
      @<fieldname> = <"searchstring">, <fieldname> = <"searchstring"> 
 
 Example: 
      @PROGNAME = "warp", PROGDESC = "server" 
 
   It is not possible to declare an OR just by leaving a <space>. 
 
      @<feldname> = <"suchbedingung"> <feldname> = <"suchbedingung"> 
 
 Example: 
      @progname = "warp" progdesc = "server" 
 
 
   The following syntax will not work as expected and will lead to an
AND-search: 
 
      @NAME = "1234" .AND. TEXT = "5678" .OR. TEXT = "ABCD" 
 
 Neither the searchstrings nor the separators are case-sensitive. There is no
difference between '.AND.' and '.and.'. 
 Fieldnames must exactly match an existing fieldname in the database, but this 
is also not case-sensitive. 
 The searchstring can be located anywhere in the field. A search for
'@PROGDESC = "warp"' will list every record 
 that contains one of the following strings in the field PROGDESC: 
      warp 
       WARP 
      warp 3.0 
      Fixpak for Warp 3 
   



Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              24-Dec-99 18:16:04
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <SaxY4oHpvatI092yn@visi.com>, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) writes:
>Here in comp.os.os2.apps, chris@os2ezine.com (Chris Wenham)
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>> Corel Draw is a vector drawing program, not a bitmap/raster painter 
>>like what this guy is looking for.
>> The two types of program are fundamentally different and designed for
>>different tasks.
>

The copy of Corel Draw for os/2 that I just obtained has export
options to bitmap, but for some reason they don't work.

My workaround is to caputer the finished drawing from corel with
pmjpeg and then go from there. Pmjpeg has several output options:
ie. jpeg, gif, tiff, etc.

Seems to work quite well. No loss of detail that I can detect.

Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: chris@os2ezine.com                                24-Dec-99 18:23:08
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: chris@os2ezine.com (Chris Wenham)

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 06:45:38, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) 
wrote:

> 
> True in the general case, but not always true.
>  
> For example, GeoDraw (part of the old PC/GEOS-based Geoworks Ensemble
> 2.0 suite, and still part of NewDeal's New Deal Office product) had
> both vector drawing and bitmap painting tools, and you could use both
> sets of tools (and even convert selected shapes back and forth between
> being a bitmap object and being a vector object) within a given drawing.

 This sounds like Photo>Graphics. The underlying mechanism is still 
vector based, since it would be stupid to throw away the information 
you lose when you convert to a bitmap. 

 As a vector based program must re-build the whole picture every time 
you change the view anyway, letting the artist fill a shape with an 
_effect_ instead of a color or pattern becomes trivial. That effect 
could be a blur or a sharpen or a lens effect or any number of raster 
based operations which have been packaged. Their results get thrown 
away every time the picture gets edited or re-rendered for a different
resolution or output media.

 The downside is that the more effects you pile on, the longer it 
takes to re-render the image. Raster based programs don't suffer from 
this because they throw away the information for each shape after it 
has been rendered into a bitmap. That means if you go and draw a 
circle, then scale the circle larger, the circle gets "lumpy" because 
the program had to magnify pixels instead of a radius.

 A vector program will throw away the results and keep the underlying 
representations of the shapes. A raster program will throw away the 
underlying representations and keep the results. See the difference? 
 The last one seems stupid until you start trying to paint a scene 
with "natural media" style brushes, or re-touch a photograph. Those 
types of images contain enormous amounts of subtle information. Too 
much and too subtle to be represented by primitives like polygons and 
circles.

 I could perhaps write a raster based program that keeps a journal of 
everything the artist draws so it can re-build everything from the 
ground up when I want to re-size a circle originally drawn 15 steps 
ago. But what I would have ended up writing would be a slow vector 
based program with a very fancy caching system and a user interface 
that disguises the fact from the artist.

Regards,

Chris Wenham - editor@os2ezine.com
The views expressed are mine.

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     24-Dec-99 18:37:14
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Fax

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 04:45:08, "Dilbert Firestorm" 
<wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:

> question.
> 
> has anyone tested fax software with 2 modems on the same computer?
> 
> I use quick link II 3.1 which I hadn't used in a long time, but it looks
like
> parts of it got broken when I upgraded from a 486 to a pentium III in fall
98.
> 
> I'd like a reply ASAP if possible.
> 
> 
> Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
> 
> 

I use two 56K modems on my warp4 system (sometimes at the same time). 
I have one set up to answer voice and FAX (using PMFAX) on one phone 
line, and the other is used for any kind of DATA connections I need 
(internert, BBS, etc.). Works GREAT.

Now, QuickLink II is OLD Win31 software, that might work under WinOS2,
but I wouldn't bet that it will work with the new, fast, pentiums 
(seems to me I saw something similar somewhere else). If you are using
OS/2, do yourself a favor, and get some real OS/2 software (PMFAX from
Keller group works with voice, and FAX, for me). I also use ZOC for 
DATA communications, and the Old IBM Global Network dialer (now AT&T 
business network) for internet access.

On the other hand, IF you posted this message, assuming this was a 
Windows news group, the best suggestion is to FORMAT your hard disk, 
install OS/2, and then do what is suggested above...

Good luck...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              24-Dec-99 18:35:29
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <47fkd6T3ejeb-pn2-zDf76E91i5nH@tivv>, tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin)
writes:
>On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:09:09, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) wrote:
>
>
>> SafeFire is based on the same code as Injoy (long story that I won't
>> go into, here). 


Well, I don't know about all this hype. Sounds pretty nasty to
me. But I did my own independent review of the two firewall 
products over a 30 day period.

My conclusion: hands down, Safefire was the cleaner more
reliable and less resource demanding product. I have been
running it for months without a single problem.

I encourage all users to conduct similar evaluations before
purchasing and ignore the hype.

Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: wdlkhl@attglobal.net                              24-Dec-99 11:48:16
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Can't stay subscribed.

From: Wm D Loughman <wdlkhl@attglobal.net>

Sometime in the last few weeks, Communicator 4.61 started not keeping 
my newsgroup subscriptions.  I can subscribe, read messages and send
messages.  Then, after Comm461 is closed and (even immediately)
re-opened, the subscriptions are lost.  I must continually re-subscribe
to get anything done.

I've made (re-named) copies of what I believe are the relevant
configuration files: netscape.ini, the two ns*.* in the OS/2 directory,
everything in the 'news' subdirectory - especially everything in
'e2a683d3.dir', the *.js files, and  more.  I've compared the content of
the copies (frozen data) to the working files (dynamic data) before and
after subscribing, closing, reopening. I can't find _anything_ that
changes before-and-after in any 'significant' way.

"Clearly", I've overlooked something simple??  Any insight, please? 
Much better, a fix?

I can still read newsgroups with SLRN, but can't respond with that (I
don't know why).  So a direct e-mailed response, as well as in the
newsgroup, would be helpful and appreciated.

Warp4, FixPak9, etc. 


WD "Bill" Loughman       "The problem with the gene pool: no lifeguard."
Berkeley, California  USA
wdlkhl@attglobal.net

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From: m.o.davis@gte.net                                 24-Dec-99 21:28:25
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: re: fax

From: m.o.davis@gte.net (Mark Davis)

In message <3863a9e5-nukewaste@wwivbbs.org> - "Dilbert Firestorm"
<wwiv@pppproject.org> writes:
:>
:>RE: Re: Fax
:>BY: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>
:>
:>>I have a 7x24 internet connection via modem and use another modem to
connect t
:>>client sites at the same time so yes two modems on Aurora is ok.
:>
:>I wonder if you understood my question.
:>
:>I was trying to test the fax portion of the 2 modems by sending/receiving
:>between the 2 on the same computer thru the 2 phone lines.
:>-

You should be able to do that with a multiline fax program.

Mark Davis
San Angelo, TX

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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    24-Dec-99 22:54:13
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

Chris Wenham <chris@os2ezine.com> writes:
> 
>  A vector program will throw away the results and keep the underlying 
> representations of the shapes. A raster program will throw away the 
> underlying representations and keep the results. 

Embellish uses separate objects for each action (pen stroke, air brush,
etc) but they may be merged at will with the base image. This allows 
experimentation until the desired result is obtained, at which point
the objects are merged, saving the recalculations for each redraw.

Pierre
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From: chdove@home.com                                   24-Dec-99 23:10:11
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Printer Recommendations...

From: chdove@home.com (Clive Dove)

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 00:52:52, Joe Heafner <heafnerj@interpath.com> 
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> This may not be the appropriate group, but I saw no other any more
> approproiate, so here's my question.
> 
> I'm in the market for a color printer (used a BJ-200 for 6 years now and
> it's time to upgrade). Any recommendations? What about the HP DeskJet
> 812C? Cannon BJC-2000? BJC-1000? Lexmark Z11?
> 
> 			Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> 
>                         -- Joe Heafner
> 
> Joe Heafner, Astronomy and Physics Instructor. Work:(828)327-7000 x4246
> my surname with my first initial at interpath dot com
> http://home.interpath.com/heafnerj/

The most important thing, ahead of any other concern such as the cost 
of consumables, is that the printer not be a so-called Win Printer.  
These are printers that have had much of their firmware removed and 
the work that odrinarily would have been done by the printer is 
actually done by your CPU.  As the makers of these abortions generally
are not interested in supplying anyone except Microsoft captives, you 
will not be able to get drivers for OS/2 or Linux or BEOS or any other
operating system that you may inf future wish to use.
Also, even if you have drivers, e.g. you are a Microsoft captive, your
CPU is wasting machine cycles doing print jobs that ought to be being 
done by the printer while your CPU is doing something more useful.
The same concerns apply with respect to Win Modems.
As the makers sometimes fail to disclose that they have produced such 
a mutant, it is a good idea to check the maker's web page, see if he 
has OS/2 and Mac drivers as well as Windoze drivers.
In any other business, you could ask your supplier to warrant that the
equipment is not limited in such a manner.  Unfortunately, too many 
people selling computer equipment these days are really furniture 
salesmen who don't know what you are talking about when you ask such 
questions.


 

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From: osbo082@ibm.net                                   25-Dec-99 01:09:10
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Project Concorde - plan to run Win32 apps under OS/2

From: osbo082@ibm.net (BobO)

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 01:55:38, Jim Frost <jimf@frostbytes.com> said:

|Don Hills wrote:
|> 
|> In article <3858501C.F8780073@frostbytes.com>,
|> Jim Frost <jimf@frostbytes.com> wrote:
|> >
|> >COO for NT is way lower than either OS/2 or Win9x (you can easily lock
down
|> >the configuration against changes, deliberate or accidental); it's a
really
|> >viable corporate system at this point and still way cheaper than this
product.
|> 
|> You can't truly lock down NT. NT might be secure by itself or with many
|> 3rd-party apps, but Microsoft's own products are so full of wormholes
|> due to their interdependency that it makes a mockery of the "lock down"
|> concept. For example, there is no way you can run Word while keeping the
|> user from opening a command prompt and running amok.
|
|Sure you can.  You can disable the ability for them to run CMD.EXE.  But I
was
|thinking of locking it down by making the system and applications directories
|non-writable and non-deletable.  They can go to town on the machine and still
|not screw up the configuration.
|
|jim

The question I would have would be is this practical or not.  

How much can you go to town?  Haven't looked for a while, but it seems
that you get disk writes for all sorts of things like adding an icon 
to the desktop, changing personal preferences in application programs,
etc.,   Does Windows provide a repository for personal preferences 
that are safe for users to change, or would this medicine you suggest 
tend to lock down even basic services in programs that depend upon 
writing stuff like the application keeping temp backups and use 
history to the disk?


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From: gerd.thier@arcormail.de                           25-Dec-99 00:29:20
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: OS/2 no longer supported by PartitionMagic?

From: Gerd Thier <gerd.thier@arcormail.de>


"Mike L." schrieb:
> 
> "Gerd Thier" <gerd.thier@arcormail.de> wrote in message
> news:38625690.1E604C11@arcormail.de...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Bob Eager" <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:176uZD2KcidF-pn2-6fdtdJr9PSlB@man-180.dialup.zetnet.co.uk...
> 
> > > > This of course completely fails to answer the question. Worse, NOTHING
> > > > in the reply (or in the sales blurb for ServerMagic) even MENTIONS
> > > > OS/2.
> > >
> > > In case you haven't heard, Bob, OS/2 has been
> > > dea.....................................
> >
> >
> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600
> >
> > The last blue screen or sys hang ???
> > The last lost data due sys error ???
> 
> Never ;-)

With a PC in standby or power off, shure.
My experience tells me a other story.

-- 
MfG / Regards

Gerd  
This OS/2 system uptime is 0 days 02:34 hours (en).

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From: stefanj@gte.net                                   24-Dec-99 23:57:00
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: MAMERUN beta 5: Frontend for OS/2

From: stefanj@gte.net (Jason Stefanovich)

I have just uploaded beta 5 of MAMERun to Hobbes:

  http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/ 

Final expected placement is:

  http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/emulator/ 

You can also find it at the MAMERun Homepage:

  http://home1.gte.net/stefanj/mamerun.htm 

Whats New Beta 5:

* Changed the interface a bit to make it easier to read and fixed 
some minor bugs
* Removed the tab stops from all objects except the Hotlist
* Updated the main menu and popup
* Added support for ROM and sample checking
* Fixed bug with alternate ROM dir. and duplicate names
* All ROMs in the alternate dir are now identified with the suffix 
'[alt]'
* Fixed timing issues with some processes
* Added a 'Check for updates' button


What:

MAMERun is a FREEWARE PM front end for the DOS version of 
MAME
(Multi. Arcade Machine Emulator). A front end is a program that 
makes
it easier for the user to interface with his application, which
usually has a command line interface. MAME is a very popular 
emulator
that allows you to run thousands of classic arcade games on your 
PC
(if you own the ROMs). You can find the MAME homepage at:

  http://mame.retrogames.com/ 

The Official (and very good) OS/2 PM port of MAME was done by 
Marty
Amodeo and is at:

  http://emuos2.vintagegaming.com/ 

Requirements:

OS/2 
MAME for DOS (I used version .36 beta 12)
I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU USE THIS VERSION SINCE THERE 
IS A Y2K ISSUE WITH PRIOR VERSIONS!
DOS Support installed
RexxUtil
joystick device driver (for joystick support, download from hobbes
or DDPAK)
ROMs (DO NOT ASK ME FOR, OR WHERE TO GET ROMS!!)


Jason R Stefanovich

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From: bcallen@attglobal.net                             25-Dec-99 00:09:06
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: bcallen@attglobal.net (Barbara Allen)

In message <nVxY4oHpvGmc092yn@visi.com> - rsteiner@visi.com
(Richard Steiner) writes:
:>
:>Here in comp.os.os2.apps, chris@os2ezine.com (Chris Wenham)
:>spake unto us, saying:
:>
:>>On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:48:07, "Wayne Bickell" 
:>><wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp> wrote:
:>>
:>>> What about Logoart, is that nearer to a paint program than Embellish?
:>>
:>> LogoArt is a vector drawing program and FAR removed from painting.
:>
:>True, but you can take your entire vector drawing created in LogoArt
:>and save it in any one of something like 15 different bitmap formats.
:>
:>In other words, it's a vector tool for creating bitmaps.  :-)
:>
:>> The best program in the "painting and dabbling" category isn't 
:>>available for OS/2. It's called Fractal Painter and you can get it for
:>>Mac or Windows. If all he wants is an OS/2 clone of the Windows 
:>>Paintbrush, he should try PhotoTiger or NeoN 2D Pixel.
:>
:>Ah!  I'd completely forgotten about this one, and it's available on BMT
:>Micro's web site (http://www.bmtmicro.com) for ordering as well.
:>
:>I wonder if the Mac Fractal Painter would run under Executor?

Old versions, (2 and 3), of Fractal Design Painter work great in
WinOS2.  I just painted "Fa la la la Laaaaa" across a photo of
baby turtles (don't ask..) to send as an e-mail greeting.  :)  

Barbara

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From: nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com                     24-Dec-99 19:35:24
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com>

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:35:59 GMT, cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:

>In <47fkd6T3ejeb-pn2-zDf76E91i5nH@tivv>, tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin)
writes:
>>On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:09:09, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) wrote:
>>
>>
>>> SafeFire is based on the same code as Injoy (long story that I won't
>>> go into, here). 
>
>
>Well, I don't know about all this hype. Sounds pretty nasty to
>me. But I did my own independent review of the two firewall 
>products over a 30 day period.
>
>My conclusion: hands down, Safefire was the cleaner more
>reliable and less resource demanding product. I have been
>running it for months without a single problem.
>
>I encourage all users to conduct similar evaluations before
>purchasing and ignore the hype.

When I was about to make my choice of PPPOE client, I had
to choose from either SafeFire PPP or InJoy Firewall with PPPoE.
By that time more than month ago I could download a copy of SafeFire PPP but
F/X failed to give me a beta copy of their product, though they
promised. I wonder if it even exists at all.

SafeFire PPP with PPPoE has been working for one month for me,
and LGS has just released a new beta. It's no question for me.

>
>Keith Cotroneo
>cotroneo@stny.rr.com
>


Nick Saxon




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From: sbaker@pcug.org.au                                25-Dec-99 12:27:03
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Using FP 9 - do I need a TCP/IP fixpack?

From: "Shane Baker" <sbaker@pcug.org.au>

Gidday

Probably a stupid question for many people, but I honestly don't know.

I'm running FP 9 and haven't knowingly upgraded my software for interfacing
with the internet.

Do I need to install a fixpack between now and 1/1/2000 - and if so, which
ones?

TIA and merry Christmas



Shane Baker
Canberra - Australia's national capital
_____________________________
sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm



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From: jimf@frostbytes.com                               24-Dec-99 22:20:27
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: Project Concorde - plan to run Win32 apps under OS/2

From: Jim Frost <jimf@frostbytes.com>

BobO wrote:
> |> You can't truly lock down NT. NT might be secure by itself or with many
> |> 3rd-party apps, but Microsoft's own products are so full of wormholes
> |> due to their interdependency that it makes a mockery of the "lock down"
> |> concept. For example, there is no way you can run Word while keeping the
> |> user from opening a command prompt and running amok.
> |
> |Sure you can.  You can disable the ability for them to run CMD.EXE.  But I
was
> |thinking of locking it down by making the system and applications
directories
> |non-writable and non-deletable.  They can go to town on the machine and
still
> |not screw up the configuration.
> 
> How much can you go to town?  Haven't looked for a while, but it seems
> that you get disk writes for all sorts of things like adding an icon
> to the desktop, changing personal preferences in application programs,
> etc.,   Does Windows provide a repository for personal preferences
> that are safe for users to change, or would this medicine you suggest
> tend to lock down even basic services in programs that depend upon
> writing stuff like the application keeping temp backups and use
> history to the disk?

Desktops are just subdirectories in the \winnt\profiles directory.  You can
leave them open or lock them down as appropriate.  You can leave them open and
populate the "All Users" profile (which everyone inherits) with things that
they can't change.  You can lock down the entire directory structure -- make
it read-only -- except for their home directory and profile directory to make
a pretty hard-to-screw up system.

About the only thing you can't do is set up a disk quota, at least not until
Win2K.

The downside to all of this is that you get to do it all manually; Microsoft
doesn't provide tools in the box, and the workstation version installs
wide-open.  It's asinine to provide this capability and then not use it.

It's not particularly difficult (a couple of "apply to all subdirectories"
commands gets it done) but it should be easier than it is and it should be
configured that way out-of-the-box.

jim

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From: hag@stutgart.net                                  24-Dec-99 22:40:25
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 no longer supported by PartitionMagic?

From: "Hans  A." <hag@stutgart.net>

> > "Gerd Thier" shrieb:  <gerd.thier@arcormail.de> wrote in message
> > news:38625690.1E604C11@arcormail.de...

>
> With a PC in standby or power off, shure.
> My experience tells me a other story.


Gertrude,

Perhaps you ought to post in German.
I am confused by that which you are trying
to impart  :(

Hans.


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From: bj@fx.dk                                          25-Dec-99 04:07:24
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Bjarne Jensen <bj@fx.dk>

> F/X failed to give me a beta copy of their product, though
> they promised. I wonder if it even exists at all.

We didn't promise you anything, but I personally told you
in e-mail what product you needed and as I didn't see any
order come in, then I didn't send the PPPoE. The test focused
on registered customers.

> SafeFire PPP with PPPoE has been working for one month for me,
> and LGS has just released a new beta. It's no question for me.
> Nick Saxon

You never even saw the other product, but it gladly adding with
hype. Probably LGS gave you their software in return for
smudging F/X products, which they have done several times
before. The fact that you work at (the respected?) Goldencode
company, support pirate organisations and publically give
statements like the above is really sad for OS/2.

--
Bjarne Jensen
F/X Communications
http://www.fx.dk


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From: wsrue@BellAtlantic.net                            25-Dec-99 05:07:15
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Lotus Smartsuite Legacy

From: "Walter S. Rue" <wsrue@BellAtlantic.net>

In Warpcast www.os2ss.com/warpcast/wc4597.html, there is a report that
SS future development is going to cease for all platforms.  Is there any
other confirmation of this?

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From: bj@fx.dk                                          25-Dec-99 05:46:17
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Bjarne Jensen <bj@fx.dk>

> Wow, this is one of the first public messaging resulted from
>"cold dirty war" FX  started. If one could look deeper, he
>would see that there are only dirty words

Sergey Yevtushenko was an F/X employee for ~8 months.
Him and I worked jointly on the device driver and F/X
PAID HIM (I have the bank statements to prove that).

I tested daily and conducted beta tests toghether with Sergey
(lots of people participated that will attest to that, e.g.
Timur Tabi). I used my goodwill with IBM contacts that trust
me (e.g. Sam Detweiler and several others), to help Sergey
handle the not so simple aspects of the driver. So, again
I have solid proof.

A week after F/X released our Firewall in GA, LGS pops up a
few IP numbers away from Sergey and release the Safefire
Firewall ;).

BOOM, Sergey get's hospitalized because of "heart problems", he
looses his phone connection and his father gets cancer .. He
claims not to know anything about LGS and as he is fired (cause
I know he is lying), he promisses to delete all his F/X related
source code. I have e-mails proving that.

LGS contacts BMT and tells them that LGS developed the device
driver from scratch, using the public documentation only. Later,
Sergey tells the public (on IRC) that he sold it to LGS :) Both
things can be proven, but both things can't be true :)

Just the other day, LGS practically admitted on OS2BBS to have
used code developed for F/X in your Firewall and you have
stopped selling it, while you have another driver in private
test. This totally contradict the original e-mails you sent to
BMT.

BMT gets a third party (using a lot of resources) to examine
the device drivers and find them to be basically alike.
Comparison is made on machine-code level, counting the number of
various instructions and it proved (beyond doubt) that this was
not a coincidence and thus BMT stopped selling your product.

> sent private can be seen from FX guys. I am wondering if some
>of FX marketoids came from MS Corp.

Associating us with MS is a nice manipulation stunt, but
I think you might be underestimating your audience.

Most people here know that F/X has tried to run a fair business
on OS/2. We have NOT gotten rich and the OS/2 market is indeed
limited, yet we have stayed loyal to our OS/2 customers. We have
invested the customer money into a complete suite of
connectivity and security products which can be proven by
looking at our web site and trying our products.

Now, after working for F/X and getting some insight into our
technology, Sergey Yevtushenko (LGS) gives in to greed, fills me
with lies and together with you, he is responsible for some of
the worst marketing and license violating stunts OS/2 has ever
seen.

>At the other side LGS's investigation (FX did not want to do
> fair investigation) showed that there is many questions
>regarding the driver.

Not true. We didn't wish to send source code to ONE particular
reseller (GT-mall), as Benny Ormson (the owner) was a previous
customer for our low level TCP/IP API code. When you started to
use that as an argument in your favour, we did indeed offer
our code to GT-mall, but after seeing the old e-mails from
Sergey and IRC chat logs, Benny didn't even care to see it.
Instead he stopped selling your product and that's without
having F/X as a customer for his services.

> Noone knows who is owning rights. I'd recommend LGS to tell
>all of FX resellers to stop selling In-joy Firewall since they
>are using unclear (and possibly pirated) driver.

I think you should do that, but then at the same time respect
the results of any investiagation :) The fact that time is on
your side and you can constantly change the driver, shouldn't
blur the fact that LGS used F/X components to release a
commercial product.

> would compare SafeFire PPP and Injoy Dialer he could see that
>the Injoy Dialer is fat, buggy piece of software (I don't know
>other reason to produce release with debug code inside).

Debug code doesn't get executed and even though it adds to
the .exe file size, then the extra download time then it's
seldomly a problem with todays bandwidth. We use the debug code
in our trap handler, as an extra service to the customer, so in
the rare case something should go wrong, the customer can send
us a complete stack dump that will speed up the fixing of the
problem.

>While SafeFire PPP is client/server PPP solution, Injoy
> Dialer can't be server due to a bug in the ip address passing
>code. And I think I know the reason of this bug - it is good to
>sell server separately with HIGH price.

Man, you are making this up as you go. There is no bug in the
IP address passing. The InJoy Dialer simply wasn't created to
be a server (thus the name:) as we didn't want to overload the
dialer with user authentication, modem pool management, user
monitoring, etc.

Anyone who studies http://www.fx.dk/connect, will see a server
product that is worth 3 years of effort, selling as cheap as
$35. It's a distributed server that supports RADIUS accounting,
IPSec VPN support, Filtering, server distribution over the
Internet, and much more.

I invite everyone to check this out for themselves, and try to
judge if this is a marketing stunt or a comprehensive product
for OS/2.

> It was good for FX to be a monopolist at the OS/2 SOHO
>communications market.

There are several fair competitors. Just to mention a few:
Internet Gate, iLink/2, Delegate and others. Obviously LGS
bothers me, cause this time I actually paid to get a
competitor and I love OS/2 too much to give up on
the inavoidable pirate efforts from Ukraine.

> about PPPoE support in SafeFire PPP by LGS, WarCast (in few
>hours) announced future PPPoE support in Injoy Firewall and
>dropped the message from LGS.

WE HAVE PPPOE SUPPORT IN YOUR FIREWALL AND ANY FIREWALL CUSTOMER
IS INVITED TO GET THE PLUGIN. The reason why we have been
holding it back a bit, is so you guys won't steal our technology
and our documentation (again).

> single word were seen from WarpCast in LGS since then.

There wasn't much news about Safefire before then either,
as I suspect Warpcast won't bring the news from pirates to
town.

> and even published LGS statement. I mean Steve Wendt
> (http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news). All the answer from FX we
>could see is dirty

If you see it from my side, then you people are continuing
without an end, even though any check of your software have
proven that you are pirates, making a buck of what was once
free (pirated software). I keep wasting resources on you,
and I won't see OS/2 go to pirates without a fight.

> We are hearing this over month. Where is the release or at
>least public beta?

First of all, we have to write our own documentation and we
don't want to send out a new beta each time we have a new line
of code. That leads to awful results, but that doesn't
mean the code isn't there.

> "those guys have stoled PPPoE from it's competitors and now
>can't get it  working!"

But we have it running widely already and we can prove
that too :)


--
Bjarne Jensen
F/X Communications
http://www.fx.dk


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From: gbritton@!britton.dhs.org                         25-Dec-99 06:27:25
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Gerry Britton" <gbritton@!britton.dhs.org>

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:46:35 GMT, Bjarne Jensen wrote:

>I tested daily and conducted beta tests toghether with Sergey
>(lots of people participated that will attest to that, e.g.
>Timur Tabi). I used my goodwill with IBM contacts that trust
>me (e.g. Sam Detweiler and several others), to help Sergey
>handle the not so simple aspects of the driver. So, again
>I have solid proof.

Timur did, and so did I. I still have E-mails sent to Sergey & answered by
Bjarne.

In fact, I still have the same prob as I did then :)

"InJoy Firewall, Copyright (C) F/X Communications
GATEWAY.EXE version 1.10 (137)
Unknown variable identd.
Unknown variable identd.
FXWRAP.SYS version 1.10 (125)
Informational: Licensed to [Gerry Britton]
Informational: lan0 [24.113.44.155] [00.a0.ff.ff.3d.8f]
Informational: Host [24.113.44.155] [24.113.44.155]
Informational: Priority [45]
Gateway running!
Press Alt+X to stop GATEWAY ..."

Occasionally the "other" machine on my net goes to a spot like www.atic.ca,
or one of the Asus sites(for GeForce drivers) and that site will barf back on
me until I kill the gateway & re-start it. I used to think this was bad Java
code at those sites, but I gave up ~18 months ago when Sergey(then at F/X)
told me they were aware of a few systems with the prob, but couldn't quite
nail down the prob.

Give 'em all hell, Bjarne!




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From: hharris@netcomuk.co.uk                            25-Dec-99 06:36:13
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 no longer supported by PartitionMagic?

From: "Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk>

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:40:51 -0500, Hans  A. wrote:

>
>> > "Gerd Thier" shrieb:  <gerd.thier@arcormail.de> wrote in message
>> > news:38625690.1E604C11@arcormail.de...
>
>>
>> With a PC in standby or power off, shure.
>> My experience tells me a other story.
>
>
>Gertrude,
>
>Perhaps you ought to post in German.
>I am confused by that which you are trying
>to impart  :(
>

I assumed she meant that the only time you don't get problems with Windows is
when it isn't running. That certainly coincides with my experience.

--
Howard


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From: montanab@gower.net                                25-Dec-99 01:02:16
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: How do I reflow text in Star Writer?

From: Bill Montana <montanab@gower.net>

I discovered Star Office is not like WordPerfect. In WP, changes made 
to margins, etc. take effect from the point the change is made through 
to the end of the document or to the next code of the type changed. In 
Star Office, you have to select all the text for which you wish to 
make changes. For example, to move the margin for your entire docuent, 
you must select all the text in the document, then change the margin. 
It's a pain. I hope this helps you. Without knowing the particulars of 
how you have created your document it is hard to know exactly what to 
tell you.

Merry Christmas
Bill Montana

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 12-22-99, 8:47:22 PM, cbrey@ibm.net (Carter Brey) wrote regarding 
How do I reflow text in Star Writer?:


> Howdy--

> I'm using Star Office 5.1 and need to reflow my text in a very long
> (120pp) document. I'm losing my mind because I cannot find out how to
> do this simple thing, and am having to shift every single line up to
> the previous line in order to make it meet the margin. Can someone
> please help me? Thanks.

> Carter Brey (cbrey@ibm.net)
> http://www.newyorkphilharmonic.org/shopping/showorchestra.cfm?xid_orch
> =47
> Brought to you by OS/2 Warp Version 4 and ProNews/2



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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              25-Dec-99 10:13:28
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

I'll back up Bjarne on all this.  I'm  registered user of his products and
discovered the SafeFire product from LGS shortly after the InJoy
Gateway/Firewall was released.  I visited their website and also found their
dialer.  I downloaded both to check them out.  I discovered that the
documentation was virtually identical to that from the FX products.  I
checked file sizes and dates and found that the drivers were identical in
size, but the date was just a bit later.  I also noticed after installing the
products that they looked exactly like the FX products and the config files
were the same too.  I contacted Bjarne and he told me about the ex employee
that turned pirate and sent me information to backup his claims.  I have no
reason not to believe him.  Time is on his side, as his products were in
existence first.  Anyone who claims that LGS is being ripped off and maligned
by FX is either stupid or a coconspirator.

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:46:35 GMT, Bjarne Jensen wrote:

:>
:>I tested daily and conducted beta tests toghether with Sergey
:>(lots of people participated that will attest to that, e.g.
:>Timur Tabi). I used my goodwill with IBM contacts that trust
:>me (e.g. Sam Detweiler and several others), to help Sergey
:>handle the not so simple aspects of the driver. So, again
:>I have solid proof.
:>
:>A week after F/X released our Firewall in GA, LGS pops up a
:>few IP numbers away from Sergey and release the Safefire
:>Firewall ;).
:>

--snip--

		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)496-4699



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From: aclab@lafayette.net                               25-Dec-99 10:16:20
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 no longer supported by PartitionMagic?

From: "Andre Clabasse" <aclab@lafayette.net>

"Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uuneevfargpbzhxpbhx.fnao8r0.pminews@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk...
> On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:40:51 -0500, Hans  A. wrote:
>
> >
> >> > "Gerd Thier" shrieb:  <gerd.thier@arcormail.de> wrote in message
> >> > news:38625690.1E604C11@arcormail.de...
> >
> >>
> >> With a PC in standby or power off, shure.
> >> My experience tells me a other story.
> >
> >
> >Gertrude,
> >
> >Perhaps you ought to post in German.
> >I am confused by that which you are trying
> >to impart  :(
> >
>
> I assumed she meant that the only time you don't get problems with Windows
is
> when it isn't running. That certainly coincides with my experience.
>
> --
> Howard

Hmmm, I haven't experienced the same problems as you, coincidentally.
Which version of Windows have you tried and what type of hardware have you
used with it?



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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     25-Dec-99 16:46:11
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: re: fax

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:28:51, m.o.davis@gte.net (Mark Davis) wrote:

> In message <3863a9e5-nukewaste@wwivbbs.org> - "Dilbert Firestorm"
> <wwiv@pppproject.org> writes:
> :>
> :>RE: Re: Fax
> :>BY: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>
> :>
> :>>I have a 7x24 internet connection via modem and use another modem to
connect t
> :>>client sites at the same time so yes two modems on Aurora is ok.
> :>
> :>I wonder if you understood my question.
> :>
> :>I was trying to test the fax portion of the 2 modems by sending/receiving
> :>between the 2 on the same computer thru the 2 phone lines.
> :>-
> 
> You should be able to do that with a multiline fax program.
> 
> Mark Davis
> San Angelo, TX
> 

I have never tried it with FAX (the version of PMFAX that I have is 
for a single line only), but I do that all the time with a data 
connection (which connects at 33.6K, while FAX would be a max speed of
14.4K). I do that, when I have any doubt that my (private) BBS is 
working at 100% (actually, more often when I make some changes). 
According to PMPatrol, the CPU usage (while doing a download from one 
modem to the other), is between 1 and 2 percent. I don't see any 
reason why a FAX connection would be very much different.

OK, It just occurred to me that I could try this, by using RAPIDCOM (a
Win31 program that came with my USR modem). RAPIDCOM always uses 100% 
CPU while it is running (OS/2 multitasks it, so performance is not 
degraded anywhere), so I don't know how much CPU it really used, but 
the FAX transmission worked flawlessly, with no sign of any delays, or
retries (it wasn't a big FAX, but it was a whole page of stuff). I 
guess that means a definite YES, you can do that, to your question (I 
am sure that running both modems with a real OS/2 FAX program would 
work even better).

A few years back, I did some testing between two com ports, on the 
same 486DX2-50 (OS/2 warp3 was new, at the time), using a null modem. 
I was able to do a full speed download, from one port to the other, at
57600 (a null modem has no compression, so that is the speed that it 
worked at). I also tried it at 115200 (using Ray Gwinn's SIO driver), 
which worked, but it did retry a couple of times (which might have had
something to do with the inferior quality cable that I was using). I 
did try the same thing in real DOS/Win31. Maxed out at 9600 (which 
surprised me, I didn't think it would do that well <g>).

Hope this answers your question...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     25-Dec-99 16:46:13
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: Using FP 9 - do I need a TCP/IP fixpack?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 02:27:06, "Shane Baker" <sbaker@pcug.org.au> 
wrote:

> Gidday
> 
> Probably a stupid question for many people, but I honestly don't know.
> 
> I'm running FP 9 and haven't knowingly upgraded my software for interfacing
> with the internet.
> 
> Do I need to install a fixpack between now and 1/1/2000 - and if so, which
> ones?
> 
> TIA and merry Christmas
> 
> 
> 
> Shane Baker
> Canberra - Australia's national capital
> _____________________________
> sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
> Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm
> 

This is, probably, a stupid answer, but YES, NO, MAYBE. Pick one. It 
depends, exactly, on what you do, or don't do, while you are connected
to the internet.

As long as you are at FP9 (I assume this is warp4, otherwise, you are 
in touble), on the base system, you are, probably, OK. On the other 
hand, you really should have other updates installed, just in case you
DO have a problem with something. It could be very difficult to sort 
out any problems, if you don't have the fixes installed. I suggest 
that you check out:

http://duanec.indelible-blue.com/fixes/LatestWarp4.html

for a LOT of GOOD fix information.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com                             26-Dec-99 02:08:18
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: How to (re-)enable Java under Netscape 2.02?

From: pit@iohk.SPAM-NOT.com (taiQ)

A few eons ago I decided to disable Java under Netscape 2.02 and as 
Java became usable (and useful) I began running Java apps outside the 
browser. These days I also run Comm/2 4.61 - which does support Java 
1.18 - occasionally, but due to its still incomplete drag 'n drop 
support I'd like to re-enable JVM support to my faithful old NS/2 
2.02. However the Java support option is greyed out. (Apparently I did
a good job removing the support in the first place ;-)

The Java version selector utility in the Netscape 2.02 folder doesn't 
do anything, so what should I do? (Warp 4/FP 6)


TIA,
-- 
 taiQ

		[this space is intentionally blank]

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From: hharris@netcomuk.co.uk                            25-Dec-99 18:13:06
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 no longer supported by PartitionMagic?

From: "Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk>

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 10:16:40 -0500, Andre Clabasse wrote:

>Hmmm, I haven't experienced the same problems as you, coincidentally.
>Which version of Windows have you tried and what type of hardware have you
>used with it?

Aside from the odd troll, why on earth would anyone subscribing to this news
group be interested in my reply?

--
Howard


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From: clab@lafayette.net                                25-Dec-99 13:34:03
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 no longer supported by PartitionMagic?

From: "Pelty" <clab@lafayette.net>

"Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uuneevfargpbzhxpbhx.fnbki10.pminews@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk...

>>> I assumed she meant that the only time you don't get problems
>>> with Windows is when it isn't running. That certainly coincides
>>> with my experience.

--
Howard



> On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 10:16:40 -0500, Andre Clabasse wrote:
>
> >Hmmm, I haven't experienced the same problems as you, coincidentally.
> >Which version of Windows have you tried and what type of hardware have
you
> >used with it?
>
> Aside from the odd troll, why on earth would anyone subscribing to this
news
> group be interested in my reply?
>
> --
> Howard
>
>

Because you made an absurd statement, which, I believe,  you need to clarify
with a reasonable statement -- regardless of the fact that you are a
participant in an odd troll. Your previous post is nothing more than a
vehicle used to spread ignorance on the Internet. You did not answer the
question:  WHICH VERSION OF WINDOWS HAVE YOU TRIED AND WHAT TYPE OF HARDWARE
HAVE YOU USED TO COINCIDE WITH YOUR NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE????






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From: osbo082@ibm.net                                   25-Dec-99 19:27:06
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: Project Concorde - plan to run Win32 apps under OS/2

From: osbo082@ibm.net (BobO)

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 03:20:55, Jim Frost <jimf@frostbytes.com> said:

|BobO wrote:
|> |> You can't truly lock down NT. NT might be secure by itself or with many
|> |> 3rd-party apps, but Microsoft's own products are so full of wormholes
|> |> due to their interdependency that it makes a mockery of the "lock down"
|> |> concept. For example, there is no way you can run Word while keeping the
|> |> user from opening a command prompt and running amok.
|> |
|> |Sure you can.  You can disable the ability for them to run CMD.EXE.  But I 
was
|> |thinking of locking it down by making the system and applications
directories
|> |non-writable and non-deletable.  They can go to town on the machine and
still
|> |not screw up the configuration.
|> 
|> How much can you go to town?  Haven't looked for a while, but it seems
|> that you get disk writes for all sorts of things like adding an icon
|> to the desktop, changing personal preferences in application programs,
|> etc.,   Does Windows provide a repository for personal preferences
|> that are safe for users to change, or would this medicine you suggest
|> tend to lock down even basic services in programs that depend upon
|> writing stuff like the application keeping temp backups and use
|> history to the disk?
|
|Desktops are just subdirectories in the \winnt\profiles directory.  You can
|leave them open or lock them down as appropriate.  You can leave them open
and
|populate the "All Users" profile (which everyone inherits) with things that
|they can't change.  You can lock down the entire directory structure -- make
|it read-only -- except for their home directory and profile directory to make
|a pretty hard-to-screw up system.
|
|About the only thing you can't do is set up a disk quota, at least not until
|Win2K.
|
|The downside to all of this is that you get to do it all manually; Microsoft
|doesn't provide tools in the box, and the workstation version installs
|wide-open.  It's asinine to provide this capability and then not use it.
|
|It's not particularly difficult (a couple of "apply to all subdirectories"
|commands gets it done) but it should be easier than it is and it should be
|configured that way out-of-the-box.
|
|jim

But that only addresses one of the several concerns with a general 
lockdown of system and applications directories, all of which could be
fatal to your mission.

Many applications I have seen write to various directories other than 
the data directory, including systems directories.    

What you need to tell me, to support your viewpoint, is that locking 
down NT system and application directories can be done effectively and
without a huge amount of work and still have an operational system.   
Saying you can still have a personal desktop, is only one piece of the
answer and is really useless unless you also have the other pieces as 
well.  

I don't know any people who can actually get any work done if all they
can do on their system is rearrange their desktop.




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From: nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com                     25-Dec-99 14:16:18
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com>

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 04:07:49 GMT, Bjarne Jensen wrote:

>
>> F/X failed to give me a beta copy of their product, though
>> they promised. I wonder if it even exists at all.
>
>We didn't promise you anything, but I personally told you
>in e-mail what product you needed and as I didn't see any
>order come in, then I didn't send the PPPoE. The test focused
>on registered customers.

Be honest, Bjarne. I asked you how to get my copy. And you did promise that
by the time of my DSL installation I would find the beta
right on your web site. I AM your registered customer, BTW, I paid you
for Injoy Dialer.

>
>> SafeFire PPP with PPPoE has been working for one month for me,
>> and LGS has just released a new beta. It's no question for me.
>> Nick Saxon
>
>You never even saw the other product, but it gladly adding with
>hype. Probably LGS gave you their software in return for
>smudging F/X products, which they have done several times
>before. The fact that you work at (the respected?) Goldencode
>company, support pirate organisations and publically give
>statements like the above is really sad for OS/2.

Come on, Bjarne! I asked you about that other product, didn't I?
I am still open for comparison, though I paid for my copy of SafeFire PPP (do
you need a copy of my bank statement?).

Yes, I dare to publicly give statements like the above because they
reflect my opinion, you like it or not. And I am free to publish my
opinion at any time. 

I really don't know who is responsible for that mess with F/X and LGS.
I paid for products from both. Is it what you call "support pirate
organisations"? Is it my problem? Now it's obvious that you can't resolve
a long lasting problem of your own and keep involving new people in it
and THIS IS really sad for OS/2.

>
>--
>Bjarne Jensen
>F/X Communications
>http://www.fx.dk

Nick Saxon


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From: hharris@netcomuk.co.uk                            25-Dec-99 20:14:05
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: OS/2 no longer supported by PartitionMagic?

From: "Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk>

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 13:34:07 -0500, Pelty wrote:

> WHICH VERSION OF WINDOWS HAVE YOU TRIED AND WHAT TYPE OF HARDWARE
>HAVE YOU USED TO COINCIDE WITH YOUR NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE????

*plonk*


--
Howard


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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              25-Dec-99 20:19:08
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <afnkbazvaqfcevatpbz.fnb9jo0.pminews@news.mindspring.com>, "Nick Saxon"
<nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com> writes:
>On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 04:07:49 GMT, Bjarne Jensen wrote:
>
>>
>>> F/X failed to give me a beta copy of their product, though
>>> they promised. I wonder if it even exists at all.
>>
>>We didn't promise you anything, but I personally told you
>>in e-mail what product you needed and as I didn't see any
>>order come in, then I didn't send the PPPoE. The test focused
>>on registered customers.
>
>Be honest, Bjarne. I asked you how to get my copy. And you did promise that
>by the time of my DSL installation I would find the beta
>right on your web site. I AM your registered customer, BTW, I paid you
>for Injoy Dialer.
>
>>
>>> SafeFire PPP with PPPoE has been working for one month for me,
>>> and LGS has just released a new beta. It's no question for me.
>>> Nick Saxon
>>
>>You never even saw the other product, but it gladly adding with
>>hype. Probably LGS gave you their software in return for
>>smudging F/X products, which they have done several times
>>before. The fact that you work at (the respected?) Goldencode
>>company, support pirate organisations and publically give
>>statements like the above is really sad for OS/2.
>
>Come on, Bjarne! I asked you about that other product, didn't I?
>I am still open for comparison, though I paid for my copy of SafeFire PPP (do
>you need a copy of my bank statement?).
>
>Yes, I dare to publicly give statements like the above because they
>reflect my opinion, you like it or not. And I am free to publish my
>opinion at any time. 
>
>I really don't know who is responsible for that mess with F/X and LGS.
>I paid for products from both. Is it what you call "support pirate
>organisations"? Is it my problem? Now it's obvious that you can't resolve
>a long lasting problem of your own and keep involving new people in it
>and THIS IS really sad for OS/2.
>
>>
>>--
>>Bjarne Jensen
>>F/X Communications
>>http://www.fx.dk
>
>Nick Saxon
>
>

Well, once again... I suggest that users fully test the
two products and see which of the two requires less
resources and fewer restarts to get the job done.

The two products may share similar code, but my
experience in running them showed substantial
differences.

Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com                              25-Dec-99 21:41:08
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: Red tacks in 4.61

From: James Moe <sma.spam-not@rtd.com>


"Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" wrote:
> 
> What does the red tack icon on top of the news item
> icon in Netscape 4.61 mean?
> 
  You haven't read the post yet.


PS: Your tagline/infomercial is way too long.

-- 

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com                       25-Dec-99 21:41:29
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD )

I'm not qualified to do a byte by byte comparison of the two products..
but, I do know for a fact that F/X hired some guys in Russia..

I know that because I did some proofreading/correcting of popup dialogue
embedded in programming code being written in Russia for F/X.. (I've got
email to prove that..)

and, I also know that in every instance when F/X and Bjarne Jensen could have
taken advantage of me, they/he did not..

I know for a fact that Bjarne has integrity and honesty as two important
basic tenants of his company, his products and his personal dealings with
individuals..

I'd trust him with the PIN code to my bank accounts and charge cards..
and, with my wife..

if he says LGS is selling the code they stole from him, I believe it..
I don't need any other proof. (period)

--
DenverD AT delphi DOT com
All addresses are anti-spam spoofs...you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!



In message <47fkd6T3ejeb-pn2-zDf76E91i5nH@tivv> - tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit
Timchishin) writes:
>
>On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:09:09, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) wrote:
>
>> SafeFire is based on the same code as Injoy (long story that I won't
>> go into, here). 
>Wow, this is one of the first public messaging resulted from "cold dirty war" 
FX
>started. 

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From: jgil@widomaker.com                                25-Dec-99 17:13:11
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Mesa2 -123 Equivalent Function

From: "Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com>

Does any one know if Mesa 2 has a equivalent of the \<character> cell entry? 
 Mesa2 makes an entirely different but useful use of the '\'. 

I've not been able to find anything in the Help or Documentation for Mesa2.  
 The problem is, I think, I don't know what to call it so I can search for
it. 

Thank you. 



Please remove X for e-mail reply


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From: tgal@pobox.com                                    25-Dec-99 16:17:20
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:02
Subj: Re: Using FP 9 - do I need a TCP/IP fixpack?

From: "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" <tgal@pobox.com>

No. But I have not done a scientific analysis to 
assert such opinion.  :)

I upgraded my TCP/IP STACK to 32 bits, only to find
that the benefit is negligible, not worth the bother.

Shane Baker wrote:
> 
> Gidday
> 
> Probably a stupid question for many people, but I honestly don't know.
> 
> I'm running FP 9 and haven't knowingly upgraded my software for interfacing
> with the internet.
> 
> Do I need to install a fixpack between now and 1/1/2000 - and if so, which
> ones?
> 
> TIA and merry Christmas
> 
> Shane Baker
> Canberra - Australia's national capital
> _____________________________
> sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
> Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm

-- 
 ===>  tgal@pobox.com


InfoBaHn on:  Rockwell, Netscape, InJOY, and OS/2
____________________________________________________
((( BOXER )))  fassst, 32-bit character mode editor

http://www.boxersoftware.com/

((( InJOY ))) INTERNET DIALER apparatus EXTRAORDINAIRE!

http://www.fx.dk/injoy

((( BLOWFISH ))) ENCRYPTION for users/developers.

http://www.counterpane.com/blowfish.html


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From: bj@fx.dk                                          26-Dec-99 03:57:13
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:02
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Bjarne Jensen <bj@fx.dk>

> right on your web site. I AM your registered customer, BTW,
> I paid you for Injoy Dialer.

But this is not regarding the InJoy Dialer. PPPoE support is
a plugin for the InJoy Firewall product. I even checked our
e-mail conversation yesterday, just to be sure that I had made
this clear.

Typically people that wish to test stay in touch and I
specifically told you to stay in touch too, which you didn't.

> Yes, I dare to publicly give statements like the above because they
> reflect my opinion, you like it or not. And I am free to publish my
> opinion at any time.

I can voice my opinion too and my sence of justice tells me that
it isn't very fair to badmouth F/X, just because the product
didn't come flying freely.

> a long lasting problem of your own and keep involving new
> people in it and THIS IS really sad for OS/2.

So you think I should just shut up and watch these people
sell software that F/X have funded.

I have bank statements too - wanna see?

--
Bjarne Jensen
F/X Communications
http://www.fx.dk


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void                      25-Dec-99 10:58:27
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 05:19:04
Subj: IB Lotus Smart Suite 1.5 Price Correction

From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman) (Sander Nyman)

Indelible Blue has corrected the upgrade pricing error for Lotus 
SmartSuite v1.5.  The new upgrade price is $152.60.  Upgrade pricing 
for v1.1 to v1.5 is rumored to be far more modest, and is yet to be 
announced.

Indelible Blues pricing can be found at:
 
http://www.indelible-blue.com/ibapps/products.nsf/by+partnumber/AN7LBI
E

Sander Nyman

Tap with hammer here >< for "breaking glass" sound effect!

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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 26-Dec-99 13:35:10
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 14:25:10
Subj: Re: Project Concorde - plan to run Win32 apps under OS/2

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <3859A6EE.856D50EB@frostbytes.com>, Jim Frost <jimf@frostbytes.com> writes:
>Chris Stumpf wrote:

>> I never made the assumption that it is cheaper to keep using what I've got.
>> I stated that OS/2 requires less hardware than NT to accomplish the same
>> tasks.
>
>The hardware difference you're talking about is well under $100 retail, on
the
>order of 1-2% of COO.  That's down in the noise.
>

United Airlines saves $40,000+ per year nowadays by putting one olive
rather than two on your salad. There is no such thing as "noise" where
money is concerned. 

>
>jim


--
hrad ngravvd

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From: nospamless@home.com                               26-Dec-99 16:54:27
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 16:43:06
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "gH" <nospamless@home.com>

In <8F994.1858$16.57764@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, on 12/25/99 
   at 08:19 PM, cotroneo@stny.rr.com said:

>Well, once again... I suggest that users fully test the
>two products and see which of the two requires less
>resources and fewer restarts to get the job done.

I've been running InJoy Firewall for quite a while now, never did I need a
restart or anything like that.

>The two products may share similar code, but my
>experience in running them showed substantial
>differences.

You forgot ONE major difference, one is PIRATE SOFTWARE and the other is
LEGITIMATE SOFTWARE... I personally prefer using the legitimate one...

-- 
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======Warped Key Crucher, And OS/2 ISP CD Project Member. TBA  #3======

     Owner of PC End User Web Site       http://www.pcenduser.com/

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               26-Dec-99 14:07:09
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 16:43:06
Subj: Re: Fax

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: Fax
BY: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

>I use two 56K modems on my warp4 system (sometimes at the same time). 
>I have one set up to answer voice and FAX (using PMFAX) on one phone 
>line, and the other is used for any kind of DATA connections I need 
>(internert, BBS, etc.). Works GREAT.
>Now, QuickLink II is OLD Win31 software, that might work under WinOS2,
>but I wouldn't bet that it will work with the new, fast, pentiums 
>(seems to me I saw something similar somewhere else). If you are using
>OS/2, do yourself a favor, and get some real OS/2 software (PMFAX from
>Keller group works with voice, and FAX, for me). I also use ZOC for 
>DATA communications, and the Old IBM Global Network dialer (now AT&T 
>business network) for internet access.
>On the other hand, IF you posted this message, assuming this was a 
>Windows news group, the best suggestion is to FORMAT your hard disk, 
>install OS/2, and then do what is suggested above...
-
I don't know how I missed this message, but nonetheless, here it goes.
-
FYI, I use OS/2.  :)
-
actually, the quicklink II version is dos based (although it has a setup that
lets you run it in win31) and it came with the Practical Peripherals PC288MT
external modem. It does however work partially.  I can send, but not receive.
Any attempt to load recfax causes the the program to exit. 
-
also tried running it on the USR courier modem, the error was different tho.
it produced unexpected error #31.  I bet its has something to do with the
co-branded thing.
-
You're probably right that the ql software was obsolete when the Pentiums
came became available. I upgraded from an AMD486dx4-100 to a Pentium II-300 in
Nov. 1998.  Last I used QL was in June 1998.
-
As for a real OS/2 fax software, yeah, I did that. I bought PMFax after
several fruitless efforts in getting it to work this saturday. Nice program,
takes some getting used to.   Wierd thing is that I never could get the bonus
pak's faxworks lite to work for me.
-
btw, I have a similar setup. one line is for the phone, netsurfing and faxing
as needed, and 2nd line is for my bbs (a dos based one tho).
-


Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509


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From: ncoffey@netrover.com                              26-Dec-99 20:28:11
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 16:43:06
Subj: Tagline program?

From: ncoffey@netrover.com

Until a few days ago I used Stephen Berg's tagline program with 
PMMail, but suddenly I started to get an error message and the program
closed down. This happened a couple of years ago and I had to 
re-install the program but I have upgraded my computer and lost the 
original zip file. I have searched for the program on OS/2 sites but 
haven't found it. If anyone has this program, I would appreciate 
hearing from him.

Thank you,
Nancy

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From: chdove@home.com                                   26-Dec-99 23:27:04
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 21:26:25
Subj: Re: Using FP 9 - do I need a TCP/IP fixpack?

From: chdove@home.com (Clive Dove)

On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:12:21, ericwl@shore.net wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 00:17:40, "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" 
> <tgal@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > No. But I have not done a scientific analysis to 
> > assert such opinion.  :)
> > 
> > I upgraded my TCP/IP STACK to 32 bits, only to find
> > that the benefit is negligible, not worth the bother.
> 
> Well 16bit can easily handle any modem dialup, but high 
> speed access is another story.
> 
> Happy Y2k!!!
> 
> Eric...
> 

I tried upgrading to the 32 bit stack, but the effort does not 
seem to be worth it,  It was ok when I applied fix 8610 after 
being assured that it was a valid upgrade for the 4.02w stack, 
but it produced a boot error to the effect that Route failed, 
requiring me to enter a carriage return before the boot would 
continue. The error did not seem to prevent the stack from 
running.   Also on an uncommanded shutdown, the desktop icons for
every running task and other icons related to the running tasks 
were blanked out on reboot.   The stack still worked, and the 
programs still worked but a commanded reboot was necessary to 
restore the icons. When I went beyond 8610 to 8620, the tcpstart 
could not find the dhcp client.
When it was working, there seemed to be a speed improvement, but 
not enough that I was prepared  to continue to put up with the 
weirdness.

I have returned to using the 4.02w stack.

If when you run inetver you get a stack version less than 4.02w, 
you should install upgrades IC16063 and Latest40 to bring your 
stack up to 4.02w. 

As most of the people on this newsgroup who have upgraded beyond 
4.02w have had satisfactory results and the remainder have not 
had satisfactory results, you might want to try ugrading beyond 
the 4.02w, (it might work on your system) but be prepared to back
out.

I could not get my ethernet card to access @home using dhcp with 
the stack that came with the CDROM, so the upgrade was necessary.

So, in answer to your original question, the OS/2 fixpacks, 
including FP12 do not upgrade the tcp/ip stack.    the GA version
(4.02e) seems to work fine with Slip or PPP but not with a dhcp 
client through an ethernet client.   For that you need v. 4.02w.


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From: ericwl@shore.net                                  26-Dec-99 22:14:25
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 21:26:26
Subj: Re: OS/2 no longer supported by PartitionMagic?

From: ericwl@shore.net

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 06:36:27, "Howard Harris" 
<hharris@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:

> I assumed she meant that the only time you don't get problems with Windows
is
> when it isn't running. That certainly coincides with my experience.
> 

agreed.

HAPPY Y2k!!!

Eric...

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From: hemo_jr@attglobal.net                             26-Dec-99 16:52:26
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 21:26:26
Subj: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: "Matt Hickman" <hemo_jr@attglobal.net>

Since -- I think -- putting on FP12, my EPM spell checker
has not worked.  When trying to invoke it, from EPM, I get
the following popup:

                                        EPMLEX
                                Link File not found

I have a 
2-24-94  12:00p     67584           0  LEXAM.DLL

Is there a replacement for this maybe?

and my dictionary is in the directory where EPM thinks it 
should be.

Anybody have a clue about this? I don't.

-- 
Matt Hickman   
  No philosophy that he had ever heard or read gave any reasonable 
  purpose for man's existence, nor any rational clue to his proper
  conduct.  
                           Robert A. Heinlein (1907 - 1988) 
                         _Methuselah's Children_ ASF  c.1941

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From: jr_fox@earthlink.net                              26-Dec-99 16:57:05
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 21:26:26
Subj: NS 4.61:  Bug Confirmation ?

From: "J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@earthlink.net>

This post is intended for Tim Sipples or M. Kaply in particular, anyone
else in general.

I have found that using the Compress Mail Folders function in NS 4.61 GA
(not sure about Empty Trash feature -- as I use that far less
frequently) is one of the more reliable ways to lock up Communicator,
effectively taking the OS down with it.  The only thing left alive is
the mouse pointer, and that isn't terribly useful by itself.  PROCESS
COMMANDER cannot extricate me from this.  The only solution is to hard
Reset, go through the drawn out, multi-partition CHKDSK  bit.  Quite
annoying.  (Someone once posted an alternative exit for bad NS  hangs,
involving a utility called PMTREE, I believe, but if one cannot bring up
a working Task Window list, that isn't going to work either.)

Is this a known bug ?  (OTOH, if this NS feature somehow makes use of
DOSCALL1.DLL, PC could in fact be the problem, since it substitutes its
own version . . . . )

Running Warp 4 @FP-9, Java 1.18 with the first fixes release.

<jfox>



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From: alan@min.net.notspam                              27-Dec-99 02:05:15
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: UniMaint 4.0

From: alan@min.net.notspam

Does anyone know if UniMaint 4.0 is Y2K compliant?  I never saw a need to
upgrade from that version.


Alan


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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              27-Dec-99 02:22:28
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <386647ea$1$qnivqjrv$mr2ice@news.nvcr1.bc.wave.home.com>, "gH"
<nospamless@home.com> writes:
>In <8F994.1858$16.57764@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, on 12/25/99 
>   at 08:19 PM, cotroneo@stny.rr.com said:
>
>>Well, once again... I suggest that users fully test the
>>two products and see which of the two requires less
>>resources and fewer restarts to get the job done.
>
>I've been running InJoy Firewall for quite a while now, never did I need a
>restart or anything like that.
>
>>The two products may share similar code, but my
>>experience in running them showed substantial
>>differences.
>
>You forgot ONE major difference, one is PIRATE SOFTWARE and the other is
>LEGITIMATE SOFTWARE... I personally prefer using the legitimate one...
>
>-- 
>===Team OS/2, Team OS/2 at Taiwan, ICE News Beta Tester. Bovine Team===
>======Warped Key Crucher, And OS/2 ISP CD Project Member. TBA  #3======
>
>     Owner of PC End User Web Site       http://www.pcenduser.com/
>
>      Java 1.1.7 - MR/2 ICE REG#:10510 - OS/2 T-Warp Connect 4.0
>                            ICQ# = 8943567
>


Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              27-Dec-99 02:29:11
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <386647ea$1$qnivqjrv$mr2ice@news.nvcr1.bc.wave.home.com>, "gH"
<nospamless@home.com> writes:
>In <8F994.1858$16.57764@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>, on 12/25/99 
>   at 08:19 PM, cotroneo@stny.rr.com said:
>
>>Well, once again... I suggest that users fully test the
>>two products and see which of the two requires less
>>resources and fewer restarts to get the job done.
>
>I've been running InJoy Firewall for quite a while now, never did I need a
>restart or anything like that.
>
>>The two products may share similar code, but my
>>experience in running them showed substantial
>>differences.
>
>You forgot ONE major difference, one is PIRATE SOFTWARE and the other is
>LEGITIMATE SOFTWARE... I personally prefer using the legitimate one...
>

Frankly, I don't feel qualified to make a legal ruling on the issue. Nor
do I understand the intricacies of the relationships between the
parties or their business dealings. That is for the courts.

I am just simply commenting on my experience with the two pieces of
software and encouraging others to do the same. So far, I have
heard little about any actual testing and reporting on the effectiveness
of the two products. I found there to be differences.


Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: jvarela@mind-spring.com                           27-Dec-99 02:45:28
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Re: European glyph

From: jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela)

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 02:04:19, "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" 
<tgal@pobox.com> wrote:

> In WordPro SmartSuite 1.x for OS/2: how do I enable 
> my keyboard in order to enter Western European glyphs 
> onto the document I am authoring?
>  
> I do not need the useless scheme of:
> --opening a table of all the characters
> --clipboarding ONE SINGLE character
> --going back to the document
> --PASTING the ONE SINGLE character (HOW STUPID!)
> --GOING BACK to the aforementioned table
> --clipboarding a SECOND SINGLE character (HOW DUMB!)
> --etc., etc. . . . you get the picture.

Somewhat better is

	Text-->Insert Other-->Symbol...

This will give you a window displaying the Wingbats font (at least, 
that's the default in my installation).  In the Font window select the
font you are using.  This window can be moved to one side and kept 
open while you type, then used to insert a special character whenever 
you need one.

I don't consider this a fully satisfactory solution because it 
requires using the mouse.

An alternative might be to create a bunch of macros for the special 
characters.

--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring

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From: wkoep1@N^O^S^P^A^Mfastlane.net                    26-Dec-99 16:20:14
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: wkoep1@N^O^S^P^A^Mfastlane.net

IF this is an issue, it should be fought in the legal system not in
usenet.    

Assuming there is NO injunction, this speaks volumes.  

The old phrase applies "don't hang with the big dogs unless you can
piss on the big tree".   IF this is an "issue", get a lawyer, and stop
LGS.

-- 
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In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fnayb90.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/25/1999 
   at 10:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:

I'll back up Bjarne on all this.  I'm  registered user of his products
and discovered the SafeFire product from LGS shortly after the InJoy
Gateway/Firewall was released.  I visited their website and also found
their dialer.  I downloaded both to check them out.  I discovered that
the documentation was virtually identical to that from the FX products. 
I checked file sizes and dates and found that the drivers were
identical in size, but the date was just a bit later.  I also noticed
after installing the products that they looked exactly like the FX
products and the config files were the same too.  I contacted Bjarne
and he told me about the ex employee that turned pirate and sent me
information to backup his claims.  I have no reason not to believe him. 
Time is on his side, as his products were in existence first.  Anyone
who claims that LGS is being ripped off and maligned by FX is either
stupid or a coconspirator.

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:46:35 GMT, Bjarne Jensen wrote:

:>
:>I tested daily and conducted beta tests toghether with Sergey
:>(lots of people participated that will attest to that, e.g.
:>Timur Tabi). I used my goodwill with IBM contacts that trust
:>me (e.g. Sam Detweiler and several others), to help Sergey
:>handle the not so simple aspects of the driver. So, again
:>I have solid proof.
:>
:>A week after F/X released our Firewall in GA, LGS pops up a
:>few IP numbers away from Sergey and release the Safefire
:>Firewall ;).
:>

--snip--

		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)496-4699




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From: huffd@nls.net                                     27-Dec-99 05:18:29
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Yea, and you sound like the type that would buy stolen goods, be damned which
old
lady got stabbed over it.

cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:

> In <47fkd6T3ejeb-pn2-zDf76E91i5nH@tivv>, tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin)
writes:
> >On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:09:09, dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) wrote:
> >
> >
> >> SafeFire is based on the same code as Injoy (long story that I won't
> >> go into, here).
>
> Well, I don't know about all this hype. Sounds pretty nasty to
> me. But I did my own independent review of the two firewall
> products over a 30 day period.
>
> My conclusion: hands down, Safefire was the cleaner more
> reliable and less resource demanding product. I have been
> running it for months without a single problem.
>
> I encourage all users to conduct similar evaluations before
> purchasing and ignore the hype.
>
> Keith Cotroneo
> cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: msuch@free.fr                                     27-Dec-99 10:53:29
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Festival voice synthesizer

From: "Michel SUCH" <msuch@free.fr>

Hi all,

As anyone been able to have this voice synthesizer working?
I'm unable to understand what is needed, what is there and what is to get
ad from where, and in the end what it really does!

If anyone has any light about all this, he will be welcome!
Michel SUCH - Team OS/2 FRANCE
ICQ # 51654489


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From: I.h8.spam@dont.send.any                           27-Dec-99 13:06:27
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Virtual DeskTop

From: "Kim Haverblad" <I.h8.spam@dont.send.any>

Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop functions
except for Object DeskTop?


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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           27-Dec-99 14:40:06
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fndymj1.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/27/99 
   at 01:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:

>LGS is in Russia.

In Ukraine, if difference metters (it does, for US government external
policy at least).

>  Try prosecuting anyone for anything in Russia from
>another country.  You will get no where and even if you win in court, the
>verdict will be unenforcable, so here we are.

Why in Russia (or Ukraine, in this case)? Bjarne claims he has enough
proof for the fact of pirating his software, so what? Open a case in your
country, win it and issue a call to stop distributing this software
everywhere in the world (copyright is supported by international laws I
assume). Then, with the _legal_ decision in his hands, he can campain
against LGS anywhere, including Usenet.

I know it will be expensive, but the "cheap" way Bjarne has chosen
resembles blackmailing too much to my ears.

>On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:20:28 -0600, wkoep1@N^O^S^P^A^Mfastlane.net wrote:

>:>IF this is an issue, it should be fought in the legal system not in
>:>usenet.    
>:>
>:>Assuming there is NO injunction, this speaks volumes.  
>:>
>:>The old phrase applies "don't hang with the big dogs unless you can
>:>piss on the big tree".   IF this is an "issue", get a lawyer, and stop
>:>LGS.

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           27-Dec-99 14:49:18
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fnayb90.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/25/99 
   at 10:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:

Did you see contract Bjarne has with this developer? Did contract terms
prevent him from developing his own software in the same field? Without
all these legaleeze stuff it is worth nothing debating here. This is a
legal issue, and it should be decided in court. This is the only sensible
way.

>I'll back up Bjarne on all this.  I'm  registered user of his products
>and discovered the SafeFire product from LGS shortly after the InJoy
>Gateway/Firewall was released.  I visited their website and also found
>their dialer.  I downloaded both to check them out.  I discovered that
>the documentation was virtually identical to that from the FX products. 

The explanation for this one is simple - nobody at LGS knows English good
enough to wrote their own international version of documentation, so they
borrowed most of phrasing from a similar product documentation. Wether it
is good or bad I don't know, pretty common in GPL world but could be a
copyright issue in this particular case... Again, this is a legal point,
and it should be addressed by lawyers, not Usenet average audience.

>I checked file sizes and dates and found that the drivers were identical
>in size, but the date was just a bit later.  I also noticed after
>installing the products that they looked exactly like the FX products and
>the config files were the same too.  I contacted Bjarne and he told me

The major difference I noticed here (apart for price) is that none of FX
products never worked for me due to numerous bugs (err, design features),
while LGS one is exeptionally efficient and stable. If this is what you
call "pirating"... 

>about the ex employee that turned pirate and sent me information to
>backup his claims.  I have no reason not to believe him.  Time is on his
>side, as his products were in existence first.  Anyone who claims that
>LGS is being ripped off and maligned by FX is either stupid or a
>coconspirator.

>On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:46:35 GMT, Bjarne Jensen wrote:

>:>I tested daily and conducted beta tests toghether with Sergey
>:>(lots of people participated that will attest to that, e.g.
>:>Timur Tabi). I used my goodwill with IBM contacts that trust
>:>me (e.g. Sam Detweiler and several others), to help Sergey
>:>handle the not so simple aspects of the driver. So, again
>:>I have solid proof.
>:>
>:>A week after F/X released our Firewall in GA, LGS pops up a
>:>few IP numbers away from Sergey and release the Safefire
>:>Firewall ;).
>:>

>--snip--

>		Chris Stumpf
>		C.S.E. Computer Services
>		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
>		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
>		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
>		

>web:    http://cse.anterras.net
>email:	cse@anterras.net
>phone: (732)496-4699



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From: hharris@netcomuk.co.uk                            27-Dec-99 10:41:06
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk>

On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:54:54 GMT, gH wrote:


>You forgot ONE major difference, one is PIRATE SOFTWARE and the other is
>LEGITIMATE SOFTWARE... I personally prefer using the legitimate one...

In Russia, as in many other countries outside of the blessed bloated end of
the global market, you might find it quite challenging to come across
software that was not pirated. That's no excuse for those of us living in the
bloat to latch on to the scams of others not so fortunate.


--
Howard


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From: nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com                     27-Dec-99 08:05:10
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:04
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com>

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 01:16:05 -0500 (EST), Chris Stumpf wrote:

>Prosecution is next to impossible as LGS is in Russia and FX is not.  Even if
>FX were to get LGS into court and won, the verdict would be impossible to
>enforce with the way things are in Russia.

No doubt, you knew the verdict? Well, then share your knowledge with the
community,
after all, this is what it's all about.

>
>On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 02:29:22 GMT, cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:
>
>:>>You forgot ONE major difference, one is PIRATE SOFTWARE and the other is
>:>>LEGITIMATE SOFTWARE... I personally prefer using the legitimate one...
>:>>
>:>
>:>Frankly, I don't feel qualified to make a legal ruling on the issue. Nor
>:>do I understand intricacies of the relationships between the
>:>parties or their business dealings. That is for the courts.
>:>

This is also my feeling.

>
>
>		Chris Stumpf
>		C.S.E. Computer Services
>		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
>		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
>		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
>		
>
>web:    http://cse.anterras.net
>email:	cse@anterras.net
>phone: (732)496-4699
>
>
>

Nick Saxon


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From: cwr@cts.com                                       27-Dec-99 11:19:15
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:05
Subj: Re: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Howard Harris <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
: On 27 Dec 1999 10:18:37 GMT, Will Rose wrote:


:>If anyone's found a solution I'd like to know it; I used EPM's
:>dictionary quite a bit, and if it won't work with FP 12 I'll
:>have to drop back (to FP 9?).

: FWIW, it still works with FP9.

Thanks; I'm either going to have to rebuild my 4.0 system, or do
some painful debugging on lexam.dll...  At least I now know there's
a safe haven.


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: hharris@netcomuk.co.uk                            27-Dec-99 09:36:13
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:05
Subj: Re: MS Exchange

From: "Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk>

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 00:59:02 -0500, Gerald F. Meazell wrote:

>I seem to remember some discussion here about setting up a standard pop
>client to get mail from MS Exchange.  I paid no attention because my
>company wasn't using Exchange.  Guess what.  Is it possible to get mail
>from Exchange without using Outlook?  Thanks.

I'm not sure precisely what you want to do but if, for instance, you wanted
to be able to access your company mail from home, then you would need no
additional software nor would you need to change any setting on your home
machine. Simply access your company mail account on a machine at work running
Exchange/Outlook and use the inbox rules (using my memory here, but I believe
that's the right term) to have your mail relayed to whatever address you
wish. I cannot check out details for you at present as the university mail
server is closed down for two weeks (seasonal festivities and Y2K
precaution), but I use this procedure for accessing my university mail
account. The procedure is very configurable, and you can choose whether to
delete mail on the server, send a standard reply informing people the mail is
being relayed, etc. 




--
Howard


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From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com                       27-Dec-99 07:24:03
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:05
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD )

In message
<E4532ACE2C01F216.20D86209B6A6B34F.997934F102C39DBD@lp.airnews.net> -
wkoep1@N^O^S^P^A^Mfastlane.netSun, 26 Dec 1999 16:20:28 -0600 writes:
>
>IF this is an issue, it should be fought in the legal system not in
>usenet.    
>
>Assuming there is NO injunction, this speaks volumes.  


picture this: A small company in Denmark hires a lawyer in Brussels Belgium
to sue in "world court" a even smaller group in Russia for the theft and sale
of copyrighted intellectual property..

(that company in Russia, btw, sprang into existance just a very short time
after F/X released their product.....go to DejaNews and search for the
existance of F/X and LGS back to 1996...)

now, just how much might it cost to bring that case to court..
even just to get an *uninforcable* injunction..
probably more than the little company in Denmark made off of all sales since
1995!

suppose that as the rightful owner owner of the property F/X took out a big
loan, hired a lawyer and prevailed in court..
what then?
the little company in Russia disolves, and (since it never had any assets or
worth except the code it stole) there is *nothing* F/X can get to help pay
legal costs..

the best way to deal with this situation is for buyers to vote with their
money:

don't buy from LGS..
don't use LGS software even if they give it away for free..
(which they can since they have no development costs)
eventually LGS will get tired of no income and find some other scam to run..

--
DenverD AT delphi DOT com
All addresses are anti-spam spoofs...you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!


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From: cwr@cts.com                                       27-Dec-99 10:18:18
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:05
Subj: Re: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

Matt Hickman <hemo_jr@attglobal.net> wrote:
: Since -- I think -- putting on FP12, my EPM spell checker
: has not worked.  When trying to invoke it, from EPM, I get
: the following popup:

:                                         EPMLEX
:                                 Link File not found

: I have a 
: 2-24-94  12:00p     67584           0  LEXAM.DLL

: Is there a replacement for this maybe?

: and my dictionary is in the directory where EPM thinks it 
: should be.

: Anybody have a clue about this? I don't.

I have a lexam.dll dated 1988/04/22, size 67584, which may well
be the same file.  It's an NE dll, not an LX, and it looks as
if FP 12 broke something because I get 'Dictionary in error'
d:\lexam\us.dct, error 109, from EPM 6.03b under Warp 4.0 FP 12.
I'm pretty sure it worked on 4.0 without fixpacks, but I don't
know where the problem started.

The error message is from EPM epmlex.e, in the function load_lexam;
which looks like a straight call to the lexam dll.  Looking at the
dll with exehdr there doesn't seem to be anything very strange in
the way of forwarding (to DLLs that FP 12 might have replaced).
Mostly DOSCALLS, with one VIOCALLS.  FWIW I've recompiled all EPM's
e files with no effect.

If anyone's found a solution I'd like to know it; I used EPM's
dictionary quite a bit, and if it won't work with FP 12 I'll
have to drop back (to FP 9?).


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: cbzh@my-deja.com                                  27-Dec-99 08:25:13
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 11:16:05
Subj: Re: MS Exchange

From: cbzh@my-deja.com

In article <38670026.257CAB58@ibm.net>,
  "Gerald F. Meazell" <meazell@ibm.net> wrote:
> I seem to remember some discussion here about setting up a standard
pop
> client to get mail from MS Exchange.  I paid no attention because my
> company wasn't using Exchange.  Guess what.  Is it possible to get
mail
> from Exchange without using Outlook?  Thanks.

I am not an expert in answering this question from "both sides". I know
that there are such beasts as "MS Exchange" and "Outlook" which are
making trouble when exchanging mail with Windows people. Anyway, I have
some experience with this trouble from the OS/2 side.

What you sometimes receive from them are mails with MIME attachments,
where all the "real" attachments are packed together into one big block
that can only be read by the mentioned programs. Also the message text
is packed into this attachment. AFAIK it would be possible for the
Exchange/Outlook users to set some options so that attachments would be
properly sent using common internet mail standards (i.e. all attachments
MIME and with the correct type), making them readable for any mail
recipient on any OS.

I tried two solutions for the problem, both not always very easy:

1. Try to convince "the other side" of your conversation to use internet
standard mail attachments, i.e. set the necessary options. Problem with
this: Some of these people don't seem to understand what they should do
(and I am not able to tell them, because I do not know the two M$
programs...).

2. I already used a hex editor to extract the real data from such a
M$-attachment after having saved it to disk (using PMMail), but this is
really tricky and only recommended in really difficult cases...

Greetings,
Cornelis Bockemhl <cbockem@datacomm.ch>


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From: jimf@frostbytes.com                               27-Dec-99 08:56:06
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Project Concorde - plan to run Win32 apps under OS/2

From: Jim Frost <jimf@frostbytes.com>

BobO wrote:
> |Desktops are just subdirectories in the \winnt\profiles directory.  You can
> |leave them open or lock them down as appropriate.  You can leave them open
and
> |populate the "All Users" profile (which everyone inherits) with things that
> |they can't change.  You can lock down the entire directory structure --
make
> |it read-only -- except for their home directory and profile directory to
make
> |a pretty hard-to-screw up system.
> 
> Many applications I have seen write to various directories other than
> the data directory, including systems directories.

I've been running systems in this configuration for years; there are actually
very few applications that write anything in the system directories outside of
installation, though many write to configuration files in the application
directory.  In either case there are two approaches to this: "so what", in
which case whatever it's trying to write (usually some kind of user-supplied
configuration information, like where the windows are on the screen) is lost
and that feature simply doesn't work, and opening up individual files, in
which case everything works but you have to figure out which files to open up.

The latter is the best route.  A typical system will have only about a half
dozen such files.  Discovering which ones need to be open is really easy --
just use the application and unlock the files that it complains about.  (You
could also log file accesses and grope through them, though that was too much
work for me.)

> What you need to tell me, to support your viewpoint, is that locking
> down NT system and application directories can be done effectively and
> without a huge amount of work and still have an operational system.

That's what I've been saying all along.  It is possible to do this.  I have
done it, for a period of years, on systems that I ran and used myself.  It did
not impact the usefulness of the system and it did keep the systems from
getting mucked up.  The downside to this was that administration was
irritating -- you had to log out and log in as the administrator to do a lot
of things, even simple things.  This too I count as a flaw in NT's design,
although after basic configuration it's something you need to very seldom so
it's not crippling.

There are a lot of complaints I have about NT -- enough that I stopped using
it day-to-day a couple of months ago -- but an inability to get work done in a
reasonably secure configuration isn't one of them.  This is one of the reasons
I very strongly favor NT over Win9x.

> I don't know any people who can actually get any work done if all they
> can do on their system is rearrange their desktop.

They need some kind of a data directory that's open.  That's trivial to
provide even in a rather locked-down configuration.

jim

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From: willem_merkenhof@my-deja.com                      27-Dec-99 13:50:26
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: willem_merkenhof@my-deja.com

In article <xvzunireoynqpbz.fnevni0.pminews@nntpserver.swip.net>,
  "Kim Haverblad" <I.h8.spam@dont.send.any> wrote:
> Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop
functions
> except for Object DeskTop?
>
>
Have a look at PC/2 from Roman Stangl at:
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/7885/
by following the PC/2 links.

regards
Willem.


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From: rjf@yyycomasia.com                                27-Dec-99 14:07:05
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: rjf@yyycomasia.com (rj friedman)

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:06:54, "Kim Haverblad" 
<I.h8.spam@dont.send.any> wrote:

Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop functions
except for Object DeskTop?

There are quite a few - both freeware and shareware.

I really like MSE (got it from BMT Micro) because in 
addition to the desktops, you get a mouse enhancer that lets
you use the third button for REAL things (not just chords) -
there are 24 different operations that you can set your 
three buttons for - plus the usual mouse enhancements like 
runaround, sliding focus, etc. On top of that, you get an 
extended file list, plus you can fancy up your title bars 
with gradient fills, plus a calculator, plus a clock plus 
screen capture, plus a bunch more.

I'm really surprised that more people haven't caught on to 
this one.


________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it. 
rj friedman          Team ABW              
Taipei, Taiwan       rjf@yyycomasia.com 

To send email - remove the `yyy'
________________________________________________________

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From: Mail@Here                                         27-Dec-99 09:06:10
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Tagline program?

From: "Steve Blunk" <Mail@Here>

On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:28:22 GMT, ncoffey@netrover.com wrote:

>Until a few days ago I used Stephen Berg's tagline program with 

>haven't found it. If anyone has this program, I would appreciate 
>hearing from him.

I have it, and use it with PMMail.  Let me know if you'd like me to e-mail you 
a copy.
___
srb


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From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void                      26-Dec-99 21:15:16
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman) (Sander Nyman)

Right.  Prosecute a software pirate in Russia.  Good one!  Perhaps you
can cross post this in comp.os.os2.humor.

I can't think of a better way then USENET to inform the OS/2 community
about this sort of a piracy issue.  FX has been incredibly restrained 
in this matter, and it is appropriate, and heartening to see OS/2 
users come to their defense.  Your "big dog" analogy displays 
ignorance, insult, and a remarkable lack of good judgement.

Sander Nyman 

On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:20:28, wkoep1@N^O^S^P^A^Mfastlane.net wrote:

> IF this is an issue, it should be fought in the legal system not in
> usenet.    
> 
> Assuming there is NO injunction, this speaks volumes.  
> 
> The old phrase applies "don't hang with the big dogs unless you can
> piss on the big tree".   IF this is an "issue", get a lawyer, and stop
> LGS.
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Sunday, December 26, 1999 - 04:20 PM
> "...they can't stop this thing called Jesus."  Big  Tent  Revival, BTR.
> "Genius is 90% perspiration."  George  Gilder
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fnayb90.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/25/1999 
>    at 10:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:
> 
> I'll back up Bjarne on all this.  I'm  registered user of his products
> and discovered the SafeFire product from LGS shortly after the InJoy
> Gateway/Firewall was released.  I visited their website and also found
> their dialer.  I downloaded both to check them out.  I discovered that
> the documentation was virtually identical to that from the FX products. 
> I checked file sizes and dates and found that the drivers were
> identical in size, but the date was just a bit later.  I also noticed
> after installing the products that they looked exactly like the FX
> products and the config files were the same too.  I contacted Bjarne
> and he told me about the ex employee that turned pirate and sent me
> information to backup his claims.  I have no reason not to believe him. 
> Time is on his side, as his products were in existence first.  Anyone
> who claims that LGS is being ripped off and maligned by FX is either
> stupid or a coconspirator.
> 
> On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:46:35 GMT, Bjarne Jensen wrote:
> 
> :>
> :>I tested daily and conducted beta tests toghether with Sergey
> :>(lots of people participated that will attest to that, e.g.
> :>Timur Tabi). I used my goodwill with IBM contacts that trust
> :>me (e.g. Sam Detweiler and several others), to help Sergey
> :>handle the not so simple aspects of the driver. So, again
> :>I have solid proof.
> :>
> :>A week after F/X released our Firewall in GA, LGS pops up a
> :>few IP numbers away from Sergey and release the Safefire
> :>Firewall ;).
> :>
> 
> --snip--
> 
> 		Chris Stumpf
> 		C.S.E. Computer Services
> 		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
> 		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
> 		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
> 		
> 
> web:    http://cse.anterras.net
> email:	cse@anterras.net
> phone: (732)496-4699
> 
> 
> 
> 

Sander Nyman

Tap with hammer here >< for "breaking glass" sound effect!

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From: nospam_ktk@netlabs.org                            27-Dec-99 16:11:28
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Festival voice synthesizer

From: "Adrian Gschwend" <nospam_ktk@netlabs.org>

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:53:58 GMT, Michel SUCH wrote:

Hi,

>As anyone been able to have this voice synthesizer working?
>I'm unable to understand what is needed, what is there and what is to get
>ad from where, and in the end what it really does!

What is this and where can I get it?

cu

Adrian



---
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@ OS/2 Netlabs

ICQ: 22419590
ktk@netlabs.org
-------
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From: mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com                         27-Dec-99 15:24:10
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:41:30, "Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com> wrote:

>  I e-mailed Support at Sundial early on
> in the life of this frustration but have not heard back.
> 
You should hear - and usually not too long - Sundial has been pretty good
about support,
but sometimes they get pretty busy. 

Re your other query:: I put "a b c d e f" into A1 thru A6 and ran this:

SEL("[A]A1")
FIND("c", ROW, CONTENTS, STRING, INEXACT, INSENSITIVE, PAGE)
REPLACE("c","itworked","[A]A3",STRING,INEXACT,INSENSITIVE)

=Dwight=
X1=L, X2=L & the domain is phonetic

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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              27-Dec-99 10:31:08
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:05:20 -0500 (EST), Nick Saxon wrote:

:>On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 01:16:05 -0500 (EST), Chris Stumpf wrote:
:>
:>>Prosecution is next to impossible as LGS is in Russia and FX is not.  Even
if
:>>FX were to get LGS into court and won, the verdict would be impossible to
:>>enforce with the way things are in Russia.
:>
:>No doubt, you knew the verdict? Well, then share your knowledge with the
:>community,
:>after all, this is what it's all about.
:>
Please note, I said "IF" FX were to get LGS into court and "IF" FX were to
win.  Please read more carefully next time.

		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)496-4699



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From: jgil@widomaker.com                                27-Dec-99 10:32:15
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: "Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com>

On 27 Dec 1999 15:24:21 GMT, mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com wrote:

>Re your other query:: I put "a b c d e f" into A1 thru A6 and ran this:

Thank you,  As it turns out, my problem was 'operator error.'  Now why
doesn't that surprise me.




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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              27-Dec-99 10:36:02
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:40:13 +0300, Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

:>In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fndymj1.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/27/99 
:>   at 01:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:
:>
:>>LGS is in Russia.
:>
:>In Ukraine, if difference metters (it does, for US government external
:>policy at least).
:>
Still the same political mess and corruption to deal with.

:>>  Try prosecuting anyone for anything in Russia from
:>>another country.  You will get no where and even if you win in court, the
:>>verdict will be unenforcable, so here we are.
:>
:>Why in Russia (or Ukraine, in this case)? Bjarne claims he has enough
:>proof for the fact of pirating his software, so what? Open a case in your
:>country, win it and issue a call to stop distributing this software
:>everywhere in the world (copyright is supported by international laws I
:>assume). Then, with the _legal_ decision in his hands, he can campain
:>against LGS anywhere, including Usenet.
:>
Because inorder to provide the court with the proof he needs, he would have
to supena the programmers at LGS and all their source code.  LGS would just
disappear.  The information would be unavailable and the court would not be
able to rule and the case would be dismissed.

:>I know it will be expensive, but the "cheap" way Bjarne has chosen
:>resembles blackmailing too much to my ears.
:>
Blackmail?  You must have a different concept than me.  How is Bjarne
blackmailing people?



		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)496-4699



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From: mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com                         27-Dec-99 15:51:09
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:32:31, "Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com> wrote:

> turns out, my problem was 'operator error.'
Heh, know it all too well!

Not being much of a 1-2-3 fan, what's "\<character>" that you asked about?
I might know a Mesa if I knew what you were after.

=Dwight=
X1=L, X2=L & the domain is phonetic

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From: ncoffey@netrover.com                              27-Dec-99 15:59:23
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Tagline program?

From: ncoffey@netrover.com

> >Until a few days ago I used Stephen Berg's tagline program with 

> I have it, and use it with PMMail.  Let me know if you'd like me to e-mail
you a copy.

Yes please.

Nancy

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From: judithr@primenet.com                              27-Dec-99 16:06:12
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: judithr@primenet.com

On 27 Dec 1999 10:18:37 GMT, Will Rose wrote:


FWIW, mine works.  Warp4, FP12. -- or the spellcheck works, and I
assume that uses the dictionary. If you saved the old dll folder
someplace, replace the new etke603.dll  with the old one and the
toolbar buffet will work again also.   Fixpaks always break that.  

>If anyone's found a solution I'd like to know it; I used EPM's
>dictionary quite a bit, and if it won't work with FP 12 I'll
>have to drop back (to FP 9?).


Judy Russell       
judithr@primenet.com                    
Saugus Web Coordinator
http://www.hart.k12.ca.us/saugus


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From: chris@os2ezine.com                                27-Dec-99 16:25:05
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Graphics/Paint for OS/2?

From: chris@os2ezine.com (Chris Wenham)

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:54:27, rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) wrote:

> 
> Embellish uses separate objects for each action (pen stroke, air brush,
> etc) but they may be merged at will with the base image. This allows 
> experimentation until the desired result is obtained, at which point
> the objects are merged, saving the recalculations for each redraw.

 That's the same as layers, but with a different user interface that 
give's you a control trade-off. Embellish automatically creates a new 
layer for every painting operation, but GIMP and Photoshop give you 
much greater flexibility with channel operations and what goes into a 
new layer or not.

 Layers are simply multiple raster images with an alpha channel for 
transparency, combined together to form a composite. Each layer is 
still treated as a separate image and it's the user interface that 
lets the artist think of it as a single cohesive picture. 

 But the more layers you have, the slower the program gets. This time 
the software is not trying to re-paint every shape you've drawn, but 
instead is figuring out what is showing through the transparent areas 
of the alpha channel.

 Embellish isn't too bad for amateur work and simple web page 
decorations. It uses an alpha channel to do the anti-aliasing of 
shapes and text, so you can re-position something over a new 
background without experiencing the "messy aura" problem.

 Embellish also keeps the objects independent (un-merged) until you 
explicity tell it to merge them or save to a file type that doesn't 
support layers.

 Embellish isn't quite the bridge between vector and raster based 
programs. It still makes "lumpy circles" and you can't go back and 
modify the lines of a polygon once you've committed the shape to 
canvas.

Regards,

Chris Wenham - editor@os2ezine.com
The views expressed are mine.

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From: ericwl@shore.net                                  26-Dec-99 22:12:10
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: Re: Using FP 9 - do I need a TCP/IP fixpack?

From: ericwl@shore.net

On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 00:17:40, "Austy Garhi (n. d'e-pl.)" 
<tgal@pobox.com> wrote:

> No. But I have not done a scientific analysis to 
> assert such opinion.  :)
> 
> I upgraded my TCP/IP STACK to 32 bits, only to find
> that the benefit is negligible, not worth the bother.

Well 16bit can easily handle any modem dialup, but high 
speed access is another story.

Happy Y2k!!!

Eric...

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From: jdholt@attglobal.net                              27-Dec-99 17:02:06
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 14:32:16
Subj: NetRexx and EPM Syntax completion

From: jdholt@attglobal.net (John Holt)


Would some kind soul point me to the instructions for adding
another language for EPM Syntax completion?

I have the file for NetRexx, but I just can not find the instructions
for what I need to do for EPM to use it.


Thanks in advance,


*****************************
John Holt

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From: jgil@widomaker.com                                27-Dec-99 12:18:26
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: "Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com>

On 27 Dec 1999 15:51:19 GMT, mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com wrote:

>Not being much of a 1-2-3 fan, what's "\<character>" that you asked about?
>I might know a Mesa if I knew what you were after.
>
>=Dwight=
>X1=L, X2=L & the domain is phonetic

Ifyou enter '\_' in a cell, that cell is filled with  the '_';   When the
column width is increased, the cell confinues to be filled with _'s.  
Likewise if it is decrease the number of _'s shown is truncated to fit the
columns width.

I've used this for years to provide a 'fill in the underline' to denote cells
into which data will be entered in the future.  When that happens the _'s are
replace by the data entered.  The underline disappears.  It is habit I can
break but I was just wondering if such a thing existed in Mesa2.  No big deal
for the lack thereof certainly is overcome by the other features of Mesa2
over Smartsuite's 123. 

Thanks.


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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 27-Dec-99 11:05:28
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
spake unto us, saying:

>The major difference I noticed here (apart for price) is that none of FX
>products never worked for me due to numerous bugs (err, design features),
>while LGS one is exeptionally efficient and stable. If this is what you
>call "pirating"...

I never saw any serious problems back when I used the InJoy dialer, and
I'd certainly still be using it now if I were still using an accoustic
modem to connect to the net.

Could you elaborate on the general nature of the problems that you have
encountered with InJoy?

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
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From: nospamless@home.com                               27-Dec-99 17:06:27
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "gH" <nospamless@home.com>

In <386754d8$2$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru>, on 12/27/99 
   at 02:49 PM, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> said:

>>I'll back up Bjarne on all this.  I'm  registered user of his products
>>and discovered the SafeFire product from LGS shortly after the InJoy
>>Gateway/Firewall was released.  I visited their website and also found
>>their dialer.  I downloaded both to check them out.  I discovered that
>>the documentation was virtually identical to that from the FX products. 

>The explanation for this one is simple - nobody at LGS knows English good
>enough to wrote their own international version of documentation, so they
>borrowed most of phrasing from a similar product documentation. Wether it
>is good or bad I don't know, pretty common in GPL world but could be a
>copyright issue in this particular case... Again, this is a legal point,
>and it should be addressed by lawyers, not Usenet average audience.

Bull... Since they had already pirated the software, why reinvent the wheel
by writing their own document?

>>I checked file sizes and dates and found that the drivers were identical
>>in size, but the date was just a bit later.  I also noticed after
>>installing the products that they looked exactly like the FX products and
>>the config files were the same too.  I contacted Bjarne and he told me

>The major difference I noticed here (apart for price) is that none of FX
>products never worked for me due to numerous bugs (err, design features),
>while LGS one is exeptionally efficient and stable. If this is what you
>call "pirating"... 

What numerous bugs? I've been using it here for quite a while now and had
yet to find any...


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From: huffd@nls.net                                     27-Dec-99 05:36:01
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

I hate to even think it but you have become victim of a M$ tactic. And
this time they are out of the country and there will be no court of
appeals, no injunction and no FTC. I am embarrassed by the number of
people that will endorse purchasing a stolen product based on the merit
of it's performance. There is something fundamental missing from their
morality. (I did say it sounded like a M$ ploy, didn't I?)
I followed a thread about this subject May of 1999 and found it
interesting that on one occasion. The boot legged driver passed a
bit-to-bit comparison. That was enough for me.

OBVIOUSLY GREED IS NO LONGER JUST AN AMERICAN THING!

Just you wait Vit, BillG and Bubba are going to be Butt-buddies in the
here-after!


Bjarne Jensen wrote:

> > Wow, this is one of the first public messaging resulted from
> >"cold dirty war" FX  started. If one could look deeper, he
> >would see that there are only dirty words
>
> Sergey Yevtushenko was an F/X employee for ~8 months.
> Him and I worked jointly on the device driver and F/X
> PAID HIM (I have the bank statements to prove that).
>
> I tested daily and conducted beta tests toghether with Sergey
> (lots of people participated that will attest to that, e.g.
> Timur Tabi). I used my goodwill with IBM contacts that trust
> me (e.g. Sam Detweiler and several others), to help Sergey
> handle the not so simple aspects of the driver. So, again
> I have solid proof.
>
> A week after F/X released our Firewall in GA, LGS pops up a
> few IP numbers away from Sergey and release the Safefire
> Firewall ;).
>
> BOOM, Sergey get's hospitalized because of "heart problems", he
> looses his phone connection and his father gets cancer .. He
> claims not to know anything about LGS and as he is fired (cause
> I know he is lying), he promisses to delete all his F/X related
> source code. I have e-mails proving that.
>
> LGS contacts BMT and tells them that LGS developed the device
> driver from scratch, using the public documentation only. Later,
> Sergey tells the public (on IRC) that he sold it to LGS :) Both
> things can be proven, but both things can't be true :)
>
> Just the other day, LGS practically admitted on OS2BBS to have
> used code developed for F/X in your Firewall and you have
> stopped selling it, while you have another driver in private
> test. This totally contradict the original e-mails you sent to
> BMT.
>
> BMT gets a third party (using a lot of resources) to examine
> the device drivers and find them to be basically alike.
> Comparison is made on machine-code level, counting the number of
> various instructions and it proved (beyond doubt) that this was
> not a coincidence and thus BMT stopped selling your product.
>
> > sent private can be seen from FX guys. I am wondering if some
> >of FX marketoids came from MS Corp.
>
> Associating us with MS is a nice manipulation stunt, but
> I think you might be underestimating your audience.
>
> Most people here know that F/X has tried to run a fair business
> on OS/2. We have NOT gotten rich and the OS/2 market is indeed
> limited, yet we have stayed loyal to our OS/2 customers. We have
> invested the customer money into a complete suite of
> connectivity and security products which can be proven by
> looking at our web site and trying our products.
>
> Now, after working for F/X and getting some insight into our
> technology, Sergey Yevtushenko (LGS) gives in to greed, fills me
> with lies and together with you, he is responsible for some of
> the worst marketing and license violating stunts OS/2 has ever
> seen.
>
> >At the other side LGS's investigation (FX did not want to do
> > fair investigation) showed that there is many questions
> >regarding the driver.
>
> Not true. We didn't wish to send source code to ONE particular
> reseller (GT-mall), as Benny Ormson (the owner) was a previous
> customer for our low level TCP/IP API code. When you started to
> use that as an argument in your favour, we did indeed offer
> our code to GT-mall, but after seeing the old e-mails from
> Sergey and IRC chat logs, Benny didn't even care to see it.
> Instead he stopped selling your product and that's without
> having F/X as a customer for his services.
>
> > Noone knows who is owning rights. I'd recommend LGS to tell
> >all of FX resellers to stop selling In-joy Firewall since they
> >are using unclear (and possibly pirated) driver.
>
> I think you should do that, but then at the same time respect
> the results of any investiagation :) The fact that time is on
> your side and you can constantly change the driver, shouldn't
> blur the fact that LGS used F/X components to release a
> commercial product.
>
> > would compare SafeFire PPP and Injoy Dialer he could see that
> >the Injoy Dialer is fat, buggy piece of software (I don't know
> >other reason to produce release with debug code inside).
>
> Debug code doesn't get executed and even though it adds to
> the .exe file size, then the extra download time then it's
> seldomly a problem with todays bandwidth. We use the debug code
> in our trap handler, as an extra service to the customer, so in
> the rare case something should go wrong, the customer can send
> us a complete stack dump that will speed up the fixing of the
> problem.
>
> >While SafeFire PPP is client/server PPP solution, Injoy
> > Dialer can't be server due to a bug in the ip address passing
> >code. And I think I know the reason of this bug - it is good to
> >sell server separately with HIGH price.
>
> Man, you are making this up as you go. There is no bug in the
> IP address passing. The InJoy Dialer simply wasn't created to
> be a server (thus the name:) as we didn't want to overload the
> dialer with user authentication, modem pool management, user
> monitoring, etc.
>
> Anyone who studies http://www.fx.dk/connect, will see a server
> product that is worth 3 years of effort, selling as cheap as
> $35. It's a distributed server that supports RADIUS accounting,
> IPSec VPN support, Filtering, server distribution over the
> Internet, and much more.
>
> I invite everyone to check this out for themselves, and try to
> judge if this is a marketing stunt or a comprehensive product
> for OS/2.
>
> > It was good for FX to be a monopolist at the OS/2 SOHO
> >communications market.
>
> There are several fair competitors. Just to mention a few:
> Internet Gate, iLink/2, Delegate and others. Obviously LGS
> bothers me, cause this time I actually paid to get a
> competitor and I love OS/2 too much to give up on
> the inavoidable pirate efforts from Ukraine.
>
> > about PPPoE support in SafeFire PPP by LGS, WarCast (in few
> >hours) announced future PPPoE support in Injoy Firewall and
> >dropped the message from LGS.
>
> WE HAVE PPPOE SUPPORT IN YOUR FIREWALL AND ANY FIREWALL CUSTOMER
> IS INVITED TO GET THE PLUGIN. The reason why we have been
> holding it back a bit, is so you guys won't steal our technology
> and our documentation (again).
>
> > single word were seen from WarpCast in LGS since then.
>
> There wasn't much news about Safefire before then either,
> as I suspect Warpcast won't bring the news from pirates to
> town.
>
> > and even published LGS statement. I mean Steve Wendt
> > (http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news). All the answer from FX we
> >could see is dirty
>
> If you see it from my side, then you people are continuing
> without an end, even though any check of your software have
> proven that you are pirates, making a buck of what was once
> free (pirated software). I keep wasting resources on you,
> and I won't see OS/2 go to pirates without a fight.
>
> > We are hearing this over month. Where is the release or at
> >least public beta?
>
> First of all, we have to write our own documentation and we
> don't want to send out a new beta each time we have a new line
> of code. That leads to awful results, but that doesn't
> mean the code isn't there.
>
> > "those guys have stoled PPPoE from it's competitors and now
> >can't get it  working!"
>
> But we have it running widely already and we can prove
> that too :)
>
> --
> Bjarne Jensen
> F/X Communications
> http://www.fx.dk
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 27-Dec-99 11:08:20
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, "Kim Haverblad" <I.h8.spam@dont.send.any>
spake unto us, saying:

>Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop functions
>except for Object DeskTop?

Sure -- here are a few:

PMVDesk 0.25
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/pmvd025.zip

MegaDesk 2.24
ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/os2_ews/megads.zip

PageMage 0.36 (beta)
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/pgmg036.zip

FileBar 2.01
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/fileb205.zip

Program Commander/2 1.21
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/pc2v210.zip

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      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
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From: huffd@nls.net                                     27-Dec-99 04:54:28
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Pull your head out of your ass have you ever tried and international case?
This may be their only recourse. Too many people backed away from MicroScum
because they didn't have the average $24 million dollars M$ was willing to
throw away EACH AND EVERY TIME. Fight any way you can!

wkoep1@N^O^S^P^A^Mfastlane.net wrote:

> IF this is an issue, it should be fought in the legal system not in
> usenet.
>
> Assuming there is NO injunction, this speaks volumes.
>
> The old phrase applies "don't hang with the big dogs unless you can
> piss on the big tree".   IF this is an "issue", get a lawyer, and stop
> LGS.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Sunday, December 26, 1999 - 04:20 PM
> "...they can't stop this thing called Jesus."  Big  Tent  Revival, BTR.
> "Genius is 90% perspiration."  George  Gilder
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fnayb90.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/25/1999
>    at 10:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:
>
> I'll back up Bjarne on all this.  I'm  registered user of his products
> and discovered the SafeFire product from LGS shortly after the InJoy
> Gateway/Firewall was released.  I visited their website and also found
> their dialer.  I downloaded both to check them out.  I discovered that
> the documentation was virtually identical to that from the FX products.
> I checked file sizes and dates and found that the drivers were
> identical in size, but the date was just a bit later.  I also noticed
> after installing the products that they looked exactly like the FX
> products and the config files were the same too.  I contacted Bjarne
> and he told me about the ex employee that turned pirate and sent me
> information to backup his claims.  I have no reason not to believe him.
> Time is on his side, as his products were in existence first.  Anyone
> who claims that LGS is being ripped off and maligned by FX is either
> stupid or a coconspirator.
>
> On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:46:35 GMT, Bjarne Jensen wrote:
>
> :>
> :>I tested daily and conducted beta tests toghether with Sergey
> :>(lots of people participated that will attest to that, e.g.
> :>Timur Tabi). I used my goodwill with IBM contacts that trust
> :>me (e.g. Sam Detweiler and several others), to help Sergey
> :>handle the not so simple aspects of the driver. So, again
> :>I have solid proof.
> :>
> :>A week after F/X released our Firewall in GA, LGS pops up a
> :>few IP numbers away from Sergey and release the Safefire
> :>Firewall ;).
> :>
>
> --snip--
>
>                Chris Stumpf
>                C.S.E. Computer Services
>                Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
>                Serenity Systems Channel Partner
>                IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
> 
>
> web:    http://cse.anterras.net
> email: cse@anterras.net
> phone: (732)496-4699

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From: dplatonoff@canada.com                             27-Dec-99 17:15:29
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: dplatonoff@canada.com

> Prosecution is next to impossible as LGS is in Russia and FX is not.

Just my two cents: it IS NOT in Russia. It's in Ukraine.
There's a whole bunch of countries in the place of the former Soviet
Union. However the western people usually don't care much about telling
any differene between them, although those exist for almost 10 years
already.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           27-Dec-99 19:34:26
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fneoo42.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/27/99 
   at 10:36 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:

>On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:40:13 +0300, Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>:>In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fndymj1.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/27/99 
>:>   at 01:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:
>:>
>:>>LGS is in Russia.
>:>
>:>In Ukraine, if difference metters (it does, for US government external
>:>policy at least).
>:>
>Still the same political mess and corruption to deal with.

I mean that Ukraine, unlike Russia, is treated as "strategic partner" by
US an its European allies. This is in turn highly appreciated by Ukrainian
authorities, to the extent that they may even try to force some
international law decision issued to their companies or residents. This
comment is strictly offtopic, I admit...

>:>>  Try prosecuting anyone for anything in Russia from
>:>>another country.  You will get no where and even if you win in court, the
>:>>verdict will be unenforcable, so here we are.
>:>
>:>Why in Russia (or Ukraine, in this case)? Bjarne claims he has enough
>:>proof for the fact of pirating his software, so what? Open a case in your
>:>country, win it and issue a call to stop distributing this software
>:>everywhere in the world (copyright is supported by international laws I
>:>assume). Then, with the _legal_ decision in his hands, he can campain
>:>against LGS anywhere, including Usenet.
>:>
>Because inorder to provide the court with the proof he needs, he would
>have to supena the programmers at LGS and all their source code.  LGS
>would just disappear.  The information would be unavailable and the court
>would not be able to rule and the case would be dismissed.

Again, I am not a specialist in Denmark civil law parctices, by no means.
But I know that in many countries, the decision on civil case may be
issued in absence of suspected side, and if its refusal to stand by the
court is ruled as unmotivated by objective circumstances than the court
usually decides the case in favour of the opposite side.

>:>I know it will be expensive, but the "cheap" way Bjarne has chosen
>:>resembles blackmailing too much to my ears.
>:>
>Blackmail?  You must have a different concept than me.  How is Bjarne
>blackmailing people?

Yes, I mean that by posting unproved alligations to public forums, Bjarne
is trying to blackmail LGS, to prevent them to distribute a competing
products, not only firewall software in question but their PPP server
also. I am sure there is some more precise legal term for this method
(spreading publicly FUD about competing company/product) but since I am
not a lawyer and my knowledge of English has strictly technical background
only, I can't find it.

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           27-Dec-99 20:43:29
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <0x5Z4oHpvSlR092yn@visi.com>, on 12/27/99 
   at 11:05 AM, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) said:

>Here in comp.os.os2.apps, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> spake
>unto us, saying:

>>The major difference I noticed here (apart for price) is that none of FX
>>products never worked for me due to numerous bugs (err, design features),
>>while LGS one is exeptionally efficient and stable. If this is what you
>>call "pirating"...

>I never saw any serious problems back when I used the InJoy dialer, and
>I'd certainly still be using it now if I were still using an accoustic
>modem to connect to the net.

>Could you elaborate on the general nature of the problems that you have
>encountered with InJoy?

These are problems with InJoy Firewall (for LAN), not InJoy Dialer. I've
never used the latter and all the dispute is about LGS vs FX firewall
products after all.

I have tried to install evaluation copy of FX firewall product quite a few
months ago, so I am not sure I can recall all the problems right now.
First, it refused to work with my NIC/drivers and traped the system. I was
able to workaround this by replacing the NIC, but the firewall plugin
never worked for me. All I needed was NAT and whatever I tried it simply
did not work. Then I discovered LGS SafeFire (still in beta at the time)
and it installed in 10 minutes and worked flaulessly with the default
configuration since then, I even did not bother reading the documentation
thoroughly. So I just registered it. This was before the the FX
alligations appeared.

BTW, I am beta-testing now the new version of SafeFire which has a
completely new NDIS protocol wrapper driver (the only piece of software in
question between LGS and FX, IMO). It has new component design which no
longer resembles FX NDIS wrapping device driver in any way.

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     27-Dec-99 18:08:13
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: The Zero Cost F/X Solution to LGS

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

For those of you that don't know LGS is trying to sell SafeFire PPP a
product that was developed with proprietary information gained from a
developer once employed by F/X. We are not talking about concept code or
code subject to poetic license, we are talking about actual theft of
corporate property being re-sold.

If your birthday is in and even month start at the bottom and work your
way up. If your birthday is in an odd month start at the top and work
your way down.

Step1:
Remove the code from Hobbes.
It will disappear from 3/4 of the world over the next 90 days.

Step2:
Now called the SIIA
http://www.spa.org/piracy/report.htm

Step3:
Complain to Retailer -- Start Here
http://www.gt-mall.com/cgi-bin/w3-msql/gtmall/search.html?&opt=find&stext=SafeF
ire

Step4:
http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/impoexpo/impoexpo.htm
US Customs
Check to see if they can legally sell software in US. (duh import
restrictions)

Step5:
http://www.uspto.gov/
US Patent Office
They claim to have a patent, yea right...

Step6:
http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm
The Federal Trade Commission

Step7:
http://www.bbb.org/complaints/company.asp
The Better Business Bureau of US AND Canada

Step8:
Notify the KGB
Ask them if they are interested that a local company is re-selling
recently acquired US Technology.

You catch my drift, just keep messing with them until they stop.

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           27-Dec-99 21:11:10
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: The Zero Cost F/X Solution to LGS

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <3867A989.FEB2470A@nls.net>, on 12/27/99 
   at 06:08 PM, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> said:

>For those of you that don't know LGS is trying to sell SafeFire PPP a
>product that was developed with proprietary information gained from a
>developer once employed by F/X. We are not talking about concept code or
>code subject to poetic license, we are talking about actual theft of
>corporate property being re-sold.

No they don't. The only real claim I've seen from Bjarne was concerning a
small device driver (NDIS wrapper, 9K in size) included in *SafeFire
Firewall*, not SafeFire PPP.

And to claim that any code in SafeFire *firewall* product belongs to FX
Bjarne at least should show us developer's contract (NDA section). Since
90% of both Bjarne and LGS code comes from Linux/FreeBSD world (well, at
least conceptually), I doubt this could be brought to court anyway.

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     27-Dec-99 18:31:00
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Yo Ivan,

This is called lying. You have been a bad boy now go sit in the corner and
shut-up before you implicate yourself any further you aren't really a
criminal.
Just a bad boy now SHUT-UP before you hurt yourself.
Receiving stolen property, even for beta testing is still a crime. YOU HAVE
BEEN WARNED.

Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>
> BTW, I am beta-testing now the new version of SafeFire which has a
> completely new NDIS protocol wrapper driver (the only piece of software in
> question between LGS and FX, IMO). It has new component design which no
> longer resembles FX NDIS wrapping device driver in any way.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           27-Dec-99 21:27:16
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <IbduCvHY3NMR-pn2-0yNW6CKyEID3@209-239-214-169.lax.jps.net>, on
12/26/99 
   at 09:15 PM, nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman) (Sander Nyman)
said:

A person who see no difference between Russia and Ukraine can't talk about
ignorance.

Cheers,
Ivan

>Right.  Prosecute a software pirate in Russia.  Good one!  Perhaps you
>can cross post this in comp.os.os2.humor.

>I can't think of a better way then USENET to inform the OS/2 community
>about this sort of a piracy issue.  FX has been incredibly restrained  in
>this matter, and it is appropriate, and heartening to see OS/2  users
>come to their defense.  Your "big dog" analogy displays  ignorance,
>insult, and a remarkable lack of good judgement.

>Sander Nyman 

>On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:20:28, wkoep1@N^O^S^P^A^Mfastlane.net wrote:

>> IF this is an issue, it should be fought in the legal system not in
>> usenet.    
>> 
>> Assuming there is NO injunction, this speaks volumes.  
>> 
>> The old phrase applies "don't hang with the big dogs unless you can
>> piss on the big tree".   IF this is an "issue", get a lawyer, and stop
>> LGS.
>> 
>> -- 
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Bill Sunday, December 26, 1999 - 04:20 PM
>> "...they can't stop this thing called Jesus."  Big  Tent  Revival, BTR.
>> "Genius is 90% perspiration."  George  Gilder
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fnayb90.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/25/1999 
>>    at 10:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:
>> 
>> I'll back up Bjarne on all this.  I'm  registered user of his products
>> and discovered the SafeFire product from LGS shortly after the InJoy
>> Gateway/Firewall was released.  I visited their website and also found
>> their dialer.  I downloaded both to check them out.  I discovered that
>> the documentation was virtually identical to that from the FX products. 
>> I checked file sizes and dates and found that the drivers were
>> identical in size, but the date was just a bit later.  I also noticed
>> after installing the products that they looked exactly like the FX
>> products and the config files were the same too.  I contacted Bjarne
>> and he told me about the ex employee that turned pirate and sent me
>> information to backup his claims.  I have no reason not to believe him. 
>> Time is on his side, as his products were in existence first.  Anyone
>> who claims that LGS is being ripped off and maligned by FX is either
>> stupid or a coconspirator.
>> 
>> On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 05:46:35 GMT, Bjarne Jensen wrote:
>> 
>> :>
>> :>I tested daily and conducted beta tests toghether with Sergey
>> :>(lots of people participated that will attest to that, e.g.
>> :>Timur Tabi). I used my goodwill with IBM contacts that trust
>> :>me (e.g. Sam Detweiler and several others), to help Sergey
>> :>handle the not so simple aspects of the driver. So, again
>> :>I have solid proof.
>> :>
>> :>A week after F/X released our Firewall in GA, LGS pops up a
>> :>few IP numbers away from Sergey and release the Safefire
>> :>Firewall ;).
>> :>
>> 
>> --snip--
>> 
>> 		Chris Stumpf
>> 		C.S.E. Computer Services
>> 		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
>> 		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
>> 		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
>> 		
>> 
>> web:    http://cse.anterras.net
>> email:	cse@anterras.net
>> phone: (732)496-4699
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

>Sander Nyman

>Tap with hammer here >????< for "breaking glass" sound effect!
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From: franks@owt.com                                    27-Dec-99 09:42:15
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: "frank schmittroth" <franks@owt.com>

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:06:54 +0100 (CET), Kim Haverblad wrote:

>Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop functions
>except for Object DeskTop?
>
>

I've found 9lives to be very good except for one significant problem.
I have been completely unable to track down the author and register it.

It works on my Warp 4 system, even with Warp Center in use.
Frank.


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From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com                       27-Dec-99 18:34:23
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD )

In message <38675235$1$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru> - "Ivan Adzhubei"
<ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> writes:

>I know it will be expensive, but the "cheap" way Bjarne has chosen
>resembles blackmailing too much to my ears.

blackmail a thief??

how could that be possible?
the thief has nothing to loose..

--
DenverD AT delphi DOT com
All addresses are anti-spam spoofs...you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!

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From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com                       27-Dec-99 18:34:24
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD )

In message <386754d8$2$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru> - "Ivan Adzhubei"
<ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> writes:
<snips>
> Without
>all these legaleeze stuff it is worth nothing debating here. This is a
>legal issue, and it should be decided in court. This is the only sensible
>way.

guess what, it is MUCH more than just a legal issue..
it is a Warp USER issue too

and, the issue WILL be decided here..
we don't need a court to tell us that LGS is nothing but a den of thieves and
pirates..

and, there are too many LONG time F/X users who know what Bjarne stands for,
and his honesty...

and they are not gonna let you scam other Warp users..

so few are gonna buy the software you stole from F/X, that soon you will just
dry up and go away..

and the sooner the better.

--
DenverD AT delphi DOT com
All addresses are anti-spam spoofs...you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!

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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             27-Dec-99 18:38:18
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 15:56:10
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

There are quite a few.  As a matter of fact there was just an 
excellent article in the December 1999 Extended Attributes magazine on
this.   Unfortunately it's not online only paper.  Their site is 
http://www.possi.org and you can request a sample copy of the 
magazine.

Some of the ones that Rich Steiner lists in his article, which are on 
hobbes:

Mega Desk 2.24 - megads.zip
PageMage 0.36(beta) - pgmg036.zip
FileBar 2.01 - fileb205.zip
Program Commander/2 1.21 - pc2v210.zip
PMVDesk 0.25 - pmvd025.zip

There is also a virtual desktop called 9lives that I used a long time 
ago - ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/9live121.zip

Commercially in addition to OD, there is DeskMan/2 which allows you to
configure each desktop completely differently.

Mark

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:06:54, "Kim Haverblad" 
<I.h8.spam@dont.send.any> wrote:

-)Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop functions
-)except for Object DeskTop?
-)
-)

--

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 From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
             Healthcare Computer Consultant
                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel

  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
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From: mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com                         27-Dec-99 19:14:05
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 22:22:28
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:18:53, "Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com> wrote:

> Ifyou enter '\_' in a cell, that cell is filled with  the '_';   When the
> column width is 
Ah, no I don't think it does that.  It would be possible to do it with an
MScript or REXX macro, but it is not built in.
=Dwight=
X1=L, X2=L & the domain is phonetic

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From: jgil@widomaker.com                                27-Dec-99 14:22:27
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 22:22:28
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: "Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com>

On 27 Dec 1999 19:14:10 GMT, mixxerdw@eye_eye_echs.com wrote:

>Ah, no I don't think it does that.  It would be possible to do it with an
MScript or REXX macro, but it is not built in.

No problem.  I can live with it and, besides, I've got better scripts to
write. <g>

Thank you.


Please remove X for e-mail reply


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From: Wm D Loughman@localhost.foo.bar                   27-Dec-99 06:37:28
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 22:22:28
Subj: Re: NS 4.61:  Bug Confirmation ?

From: Wm D Loughman@localhost.foo.bar ()

In article <38668F36.53D4D5FD@earthlink.net>, J. R. Fox wrote:
>This post is intended for Tim Sipples or M. Kaply in particular, anyone
>else in general.
>
>I have found that using the Compress Mail Folders function in NS 4.61 GA
>(not sure about Empty Trash feature -- as I use that far less
>frequently) is one of the more reliable ways to lock up Communicator,
>effectively taking the OS down with it.  The only thing left alive is
>the mouse pointer, and that isn't terribly useful by itself.  PROCESS
>COMMANDER cannot extricate me from this.  The only solution is to hard
>Reset, go through the drawn out, multi-partition CHKDSK  bit.  Quite
>annoying.  (Someone once posted an alternative exit for bad NS  hangs,
>involving a utility called PMTREE, I believe, but if one cannot bring up
>a working Task Window list, that isn't going to work either.)
>
>Is this a known bug ?  (OTOH, if this NS feature somehow makes use of
>DOSCALL1.DLL, PC could in fact be the problem, since it substitutes its
>own version . . . . )
>
>Running Warp 4 @FP-9, Java 1.18 with the first fixes release.
>
><jfox


I've seen this exact behavior twice in the last four days, and
several times something likely related.  The machine is totally
frozen, including the cursor and keyboard.  Nothing works, and
Watchcat is unreachable.  There's no choice but to 'pull the plug'.

Warp4, FP9, Comm461, Java118, etc etc.

WD Loughman
Berkeley, CA
wdlkhl@attglobal.net

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From: jdesmaraNOjdSPAM@novanthealth.or...               27-Dec-99 11:58:02
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 22:22:28
Subj: Smartsuite 1.5 for OS/2

Message sender: jdesmaraNOjdSPAM@novanthealth.org.invalid

From: John Desmarais <jdesmaraNOjdSPAM@novanthealth.org.invalid>

Lotus released a new version of Smartsuite for OS/2 this month. 
Anybody using yet?  Better? Worse? Indifferent?  Is it worth $150?

-=>John D.


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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           27-Dec-99 14:14:00
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 22:22:28
Subj: Re: NS 4.61:  Bug Confirmation ?

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

Definitely a known bug. We already have a fix that will go out when we
release an update.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Basically, renaming, deleting, and compressing folders is broke.

Mike Kaply
IBM

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From: Alexander.Nader@univie.ac.at                      27-Dec-99 21:00:20
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 22:22:28
Subj: Re: Festival voice synthesizer

From: Alexander Nader <Alexander.Nader@univie.ac.at>

Adrian Gschwend schrieb:
> 
> On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:53:58 GMT, Michel SUCH wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> >As anyone been able to have this voice synthesizer working?
> >I'm unable to understand what is needed, what is there and what is to get
> >ad from where, and in the end what it really does!
> 
> What is this and where can I get it?

AT hobbes, a speech synthesizer like backtalk. 

But I too was unable to get it work. Stopps always with a ..... not
found message. I tried a new version of mbrola from their site, but NOP.

A Nader
Team OS/2 Austria

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From: ccsten@usa.net                                    27-Dec-99 16:18:26
  To: jdesmaraNOjdSPAM@novanthealth.org..               27-Dec-99 22:22:29
Subj: Re: Smartsuite 1.5 for OS/2

To: John Desmarais <jdesmaraNOjdSPAM@novanthealth.org.invalid>
From: Terry Norton <ccsten@usa.net>

John Desmarais wrote:
> 
> Lotus released a new version of Smartsuite for OS/2 this month.
> Anybody using yet?  Better? Worse? Indifferent?  Is it worth $150?
> 
> -=>John D.
> 

I haven't bought it yet.  Before you do, better have a look at an
article in VAR magazine called Computer Reseller.  The article is at:

http://www.crn.com/thisweek/news.asp?ArticleID=12356

I think I may have a look at Clearlook from Sundial Systems.

-- 

Terry Norton
Warped with OS/2

    A sign of the '90s:
       Your supervisor doesn't have the ability to do your job.

This OS/2 system uptime is 1 days 04 hours 06 minutes (en).

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     27-Dec-99 21:56:02
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 22:22:29
Subj: Re: The Zero Cost F/X Solution to LGS

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

You sure know a great deal about all this. Are you sure you are just an
innocent bystander? You claim not to have legal knowledge but sound-off
pretty good.

Consider this one last time Ivan, how would the University perceive your
dealings with these people?

Go and Spam no more and you shall be forgiven.

Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

> In <3867A989.FEB2470A@nls.net>, on 12/27/99
>    at 06:08 PM, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> said:
>
> >For those of you that don't know LGS is trying to sell SafeFire PPP a
> >product that was developed with proprietary information gained from a
> >developer once employed by F/X. We are not talking about concept code or
> >code subject to poetic license, we are talking about actual theft of
> >corporate property being re-sold.
>
> No they don't. The only real claim I've seen from Bjarne was concerning a
> small device driver (NDIS wrapper, 9K in size) included in *SafeFire
> Firewall*, not SafeFire PPP.
>
> And to claim that any code in SafeFire *firewall* product belongs to FX
> Bjarne at least should show us developer's contract (NDA section). Since
> 90% of both Bjarne and LGS code comes from Linux/FreeBSD world (well, at
> least conceptually), I doubt this could be brought to court anyway.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
> -----------------------------------------------------------

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From: ivan.j@accesinter.com                             27-Dec-99 22:53:15
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 22:22:29
Subj: Re: The Zero Cost F/X Solution to LGS

From: ivan turner <ivan.j@accesinter.com>

"David D. Huff Jr." wrote:
> 
> For those of you that don't know LGS is trying to sell SafeFire PPP a
> product that was developed with proprietary information gained from a
> developer once employed by F/X. We are not talking about concept code or
> code subject to poetic license, we are talking about actual theft of
> corporate property being re-sold.
> 
> If your birthday is in and even month start at the bottom and work your
> way up. If your birthday is in an odd month start at the top and work
> your way down.
> 
> Step1:
> Remove the code from Hobbes.
> It will disappear from 3/4 of the world over the next 90 days.
> 
> Step2:
> Now called the SIIA
> http://www.spa.org/piracy/report.htm
> 
> Step3:
> Complain to Retailer -- Start Here
>
http://www.gt-mall.com/cgi-bin/w3-msql/gtmall/search.html?&opt=find&stext=SafeF
ire
> 
> Step4:
> http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/impoexpo/impoexpo.htm
> US Customs
> Check to see if they can legally sell software in US. (duh import
> restrictions)
> 
> Step5:
> http://www.uspto.gov/
> US Patent Office
> They claim to have a patent, yea right...
> 
> Step6:
> http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/complaint.htm
> The Federal Trade Commission
> 
> Step7:
> http://www.bbb.org/complaints/company.asp
> The Better Business Bureau of US AND Canada
> 
> Step8:
> Notify the KGB
> Ask them if they are interested that a local company is re-selling
> recently acquired US Technology.
> 
> You catch my drift, just keep messing with them until they stop.

From this and other posts of yours I am wondering if your middle name is
McCarthy.

regards
ivan

p.s. Shouldn't writing to your senator/congress person be in your list? 
I think that is what all you yanks do, isn't it?

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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              27-Dec-99 01:13:15
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

LGS is in Russia.  Try prosecuting anyone for anything in Russia from another
country.  You will get no where and even if you win in court, the verdict
will be unenforcable, so here we are.

On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:20:28 -0600, wkoep1@N^O^S^P^A^Mfastlane.net wrote:

:>IF this is an issue, it should be fought in the legal system not in
:>usenet.    
:>
:>Assuming there is NO injunction, this speaks volumes.  
:>
:>The old phrase applies "don't hang with the big dogs unless you can
:>piss on the big tree".   IF this is an "issue", get a lawyer, and stop
:>LGS.


		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)496-4699



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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              27-Dec-99 01:16:02
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

Prosecution is next to impossible as LGS is in Russia and FX is not.  Even if
FX were to get LGS into court and won, the verdict would be impossible to
enforce with the way things are in Russia.

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 02:29:22 GMT, cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:

:>>You forgot ONE major difference, one is PIRATE SOFTWARE and the other is
:>>LEGITIMATE SOFTWARE... I personally prefer using the legitimate one...
:>>
:>
:>Frankly, I don't feel qualified to make a legal ruling on the issue. Nor
:>do I understand intricacies of the relationships between the
:>parties or their business dealings. That is for the courts.
:>


		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)496-4699



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From: hamei@pacbell.net                                 28-Dec-99 01:54:23
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: hamei@pacbell.net

In <yRNWO1cJ1gUw-pn2-9BMnloRSywFI@toshiba>, madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel) 
writes:
>There are quite a few.  As a matter of fact there was just an 
>excellent article in the December 1999 Extended Attributes magazine on
>this.   Unfortunately it's not online only paper.  Their site is 
>http://www.possi.org and you can request a sample copy of the 
>magazine.
>
>Some of the ones that Rich Steiner lists in his article, which are on 
>hobbes:
>
>Mega Desk 2.24 - megads.zip
>PageMage 0.36(beta) - pgmg036.zip
>FileBar 2.01 - fileb205.zip
>Program Commander/2 1.21 - pc2v210.zip
>PMVDesk 0.25 - pmvd025.zip
>
>There is also a virtual desktop called 9lives that I used a long time 
>ago - ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/9live121.zip
>
>Commercially in addition to OD, there is DeskMan/2 which allows you to
>configure each desktop completely differently.
>
>Mark
>
>On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:06:54, "Kim Haverblad" 
><I.h8.spam@dont.send.any> wrote:
>
>-)Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop functions
>-)except for Object DeskTop?
>-)
>-)
>

Does anyone know about a program called 'Skyscraper' or
something similar ? Was it something in the virtual desktop
line or no ? (have only seen the ads in old magazines, but it 
looked interesting - you can tell it was an old program, from
before *everything* OS/2-ish was called x/2)



>---------------------------------------------------------
> From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
>             Healthcare Computer Consultant
>                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
>    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
>
>  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
>             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
>---------------------------------------------------------


--
hrad ngravvd

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     28-Dec-99 01:21:14
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Proof where's the proof. Bjarne can prove what he says where's your proof.

Sweet mercy, who the hell are you to badmouth -- "Boasted presumption of
innocence?"

Anything for a buck, since when did you bastards start playing by the rules?

Timur Kazimirov wrote:

>
> This is the only problem of Bjarne. I would like to repeat - without
decision
> all
> his mail is a simple fake. Came on! Where is your boasted presumtion of
> innocence?
>
> With best regards,
> Timur Kazimirov
>
> -- Remove all "z" from my address to reply

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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              27-Dec-99 20:20:29
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 03:44:05 +0300 (MSK), Timur Kazimirov wrote:

:>On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:36:04 -0500 (EST), Chris Stumpf wrote:
:>
:>>:>In Ukraine, if difference metters (it does, for US government external
:>>:>policy at least).
:>>:>
:>>Still the same political mess and corruption to deal with.
:>
:>So as in the any other piece of world. Do not make comp.os.os2.*
:>the place of political battles. There are a lot of newsgroups where
:>you can do that.
:>

I was doing no such thing.  I was mearly pointing out something that should
be as obvios as the nose on your face that you were ignoring.

:>>:>assume). Then, with the _legal_ decision in his hands, he can campain
:>>:>against LGS anywhere, including Usenet.
:>>:>
:>>Because inorder to provide the court with the proof he needs, he would have
:>>to supena the programmers at LGS and all their source code.  LGS would just
:>>disappear.  The information would be unavailable and the court would not be
:>>able to rule and the case would be dismissed.
:>
:>This is the only problem of Bjarne. I would like to repeat - without
decision
:>all
:>his mail is a simple fake. Came on! Where is your boasted presumtion of
:>innocence?
:>

His mail is not a fake, I can vouche for that.  Besides, the presumption of
innocence is for the courts to ensure a fair trial.  I am under no such
limitation.  I am free to make my own decisions and condemnations based on
the facts that I discover.  Besides, just the stealing of the documentation
is reason enough to never buy anything from LGS.



		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)496-4699



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From: timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz                          28-Dec-99 04:25:01
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Timur Kazimirov" <timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz>

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 01:12:34 GMT, David D. Huff Jr. wrote:

>Prove that it was not stolen.

Really? Am I need to prove this? Conslut with any lawer, please


With best regards,
Timur Kazimirov

-- Remove all "z" from my address to reply



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From: huffd@nls.net                                     28-Dec-99 01:32:06
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: The Zero Cost F/X Solution to LGS

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Ivan,
My name and email are always shown in the header. I do not use a signature
card.
I use NS4.6.1 for correspondence.
I see you are using PMINews 2.00.1205 For OS/2. I do not know if you are able
to
read the headers. Now it is reasonable and preferable that this situation be
settled in a court of law. But in all likelyhood it will not. I am glad you
have
taken the time and effort to review the available evidence for yourself.

I am interested in hearing from you, how you see this being resolved.

Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>
> BTW, why you does not sign your post?
>
> Cheers,
> Ivan Adzhubei

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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              27-Dec-99 20:30:02
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

I'm not sure who this remark was directed at, but I will address it because I
made the initial remark that spark this.  I realize there are differences
between the nation of Russia and the nation of the Ukraine, but they both are
the same in regards to lawsuits of anykind, particularly those brought on by
people or businesses outside of their country for things like intellectual
theft and copyright infringement.  Only very larg companies can afford to
take the necessary legal measures in every country where their products are
sold to prevent a pirate outfit like LGS from profitting.FX Communications
doesn't even come close to having enough revenue to begin such an
undertaking.  I would say the same thing about any nation that once was part
of the USSR.  Prosecution for FX is next to impossible and even if they won
in court, it would have no effect on LGS because the corruption and
indifference of the gov'ts in that region of the world have no interest in
enforcing a court order from a court outside their country that penalizes a
business inside their country.


On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:27:32 +0300, Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

:>In <IbduCvHY3NMR-pn2-0yNW6CKyEID3@209-239-214-169.lax.jps.net>, on
:>12/26/99 
:>   at 09:15 PM, nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman) (Sander Nyman)
:>said:
:>
:>A person who see no difference between Russia and Ukraine can't talk about
:>ignorance.
:>


		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)496-4699



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From: timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz                          28-Dec-99 04:35:19
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Timur Kazimirov" <timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz>

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 01:21:28 GMT, David D. Huff Jr. wrote:

>Bjarne can prove what he says where's your proof.

Bjarne (and you too) can prove that only in court. And I am don't need to
prove anyhing in this case.

>... presumption of innocence...

Consult from any lawer about meaning this

>Anything for a buck, since when did you bastards start playing by the rules?

Answer for this by yourself

With best regards,
Timur Kazimirov

-- Remove all "z" from my address to reply



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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               27-Dec-99 19:44:14
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Fax  software

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

outta curiousity...

Since I found out that my dos copy of quick link II 3.1 is broken, I went
search for an OS/2 fax software.

I'm finding that there aren't too many OS/2 fax software out there 

So far, I've found just 4.

PmFax 3.01  (which I bought)
Faxworks
Faxworks Lite
BGfax/2
Fax067 for class 1, 2, 2.0 modems.

The first three are made by the same people if I'm not mistaken.   

The last 2 requires some configuration to get it working.

I did get BGfax/2 working partially, but never could get the receive file to
work. something to do with the DTE downgrade.

Fax067 looked too complicated to setup.

I found Pmfax to be a bit kludgy on document conversion.


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From: Yelmow@together.net                               27-Dec-99 20:11:14
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: Memory usage?

From: Yelmow@together.net (Mark Tucker)

In article <38637AD5.31D4BEFE@nls.net>,
"David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> wrote:
>Mark, I had the same problem after I ventured to a site that was reading
>or updating my cookie file. I fought with NS4.6.1 until it stopped
>misbehaving. It isn't pleasant but do yourself a favor and make your boot
>drive active on warpcenter while you are trying to resolve this and do a
>c-a-d before ground zero.  I was able to replicate the problem on two
>different occasions 5 or 6 times straight. Now I just delete files out of
>NS and sometimes a restore or reload is necessary.
>
>
It turns out that I had installed an old ISA SCSI card (adaptec 1542cf)
which was forcing the system to use everthing above 16mb as "fast swap"
space.  Pretty sick for a system with 128mb.  

The netscape problem doesn't surpise me.  I use lynx as much as
possible.

Mark
mark (at) tucker (dot) net


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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              28-Dec-99 02:37:11
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <3867a848$3$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru>, "Ivan Adzhubei"
<ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> writes:
>In <0x5Z4oHpvSlR092yn@visi.com>, on 12/27/99 
>   at 11:05 AM, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) said:
>
>>Here in comp.os.os2.apps, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> spake
>>unto us, saying:
>
>
>I have tried to install evaluation copy of FX firewall product quite a few
>months ago, so I am not sure I can recall all the problems right now.
>First, it refused to work with my NIC/drivers and traped the system. I was
>able to workaround this by replacing the NIC, but the firewall plugin
>never worked for me. All I needed was NAT and whatever I tried it simply
>did not work. Then I discovered LGS SafeFire (still in beta at the time)
>and it installed in 10 minutes and worked flaulessly with the default
>configuration since then, I even did not bother reading the documentation
>thoroughly. So I just registered it. This was before the the FX
>alligations appeared.
>

This is what happened with me also. Consequently, I did not find the
two products to be functionally equivalent. One worked well and one
sometimes worked on my system.

Hence my encouragement to users to conduct their own independent
reviews of the two products. I am defering judgement of the legal
concerns because of my lack of knowledge of the specific
arrangements. I do feel qualified to judge performance on my system.

Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               27-Dec-99 21:18:26
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: printing

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

I have warp 3 here.

2 things.

1. anyone know why printing to the Epson Stylus Color 600 drags the system
down?

2.  on printing from the dos or OS/2 command line, there are gaps every few
pages.  but do a drag n' drop, printer prints no gaps at all.

I've used both the epson german drivers v1020 & the Omni drivers dated 7/99.

ideas on this?

also, I noticed the omni drivers doesn't display its version number but shows
it as ???.???  Also, is it normal for the omni drivers to have 2 different
setup options?
-


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From: osric@apk.net                                     27-Dec-99 22:29:27
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: StarDraw vrs. CorelDraw5?

From: Tarquelne <osric@apk.net>

Right now I'm using CorelDraw5 under WinOS/2, and I'm considering
getting ahold of StarOffice, and running it under OS/2 and/or Linux.

Question:  How well does StarDraw stack up against CorelDraw5?  Is
StarDraw a "full featured" vector graphics program, or more of a "we
wanted to say we had a draw program in the suite" sort of thing?

Thanks,

                                            Tarquelne
                                       <osric@apk.net>
        I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
                                  ************************
Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
___________________________________________________________
"People don't quit playing because they grow old.
They grow old because they quit playing."
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From: letoured@nospam.net                               27-Dec-99 19:34:03
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: Smartsuite 1.5 for OS/2

From: letoured@nospam.net

 Terry Norton <ccsten@usa.net> said:

>John Desmarais wrote:
>> 
>> Lotus released a new version of Smartsuite for OS/2 this month.
>> Anybody using yet?  Better? Worse? Indifferent?  Is it worth $150?
>> 
>> -=>John D.
>> 

>I haven't bought it yet.  Before you do, better have a look at an article
>in VAR magazine called Computer Reseller.  The article is at:

>http://www.crn.com/thisweek/news.asp?ArticleID=12356

>I think I may have a look at Clearlook from Sundial Systems.

There is something left out of the article, that makes me wonder if the
reporter has any idea of what he was told. Where it states that there is
"cutback by customer request," the writer should have explained a lot
more, since it goes on to imply the product will be killed in year.

What I suspect he should have said is that Smartsuite is a mature product
and major customers have said the updates are coming too fast, or major
customers are thinking of switching to M$ crapware in a year or so.

_____________
Ed Letourneau <letoured@sover.net>

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From: vaneps@powerup.com.au                             28-Dec-99 03:59:00
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: SmartSuite 1.0 downloadable patches/upgrades?

From: B&A <vaneps@powerup.com.au>

G'day!

  Having run into the odd bug in Lotus SmartSuite for OS/2
Warp 4 v1.0, I was wondering if there were any DOWNLOADABLE
patches/upgrades available?  I know that you can purchase
v1.1 and I have seen a v1.5 patch (for v1.1?), but I haven't
seen anything applicable to v1.0.  Would abyone know if such
patches exist?

  Thanks for any help!

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
 Brad & Alison van Eps     vaneps@powerup.com.au
 OS/2 WARPed for REAL power!
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              28-Dec-99 04:21:27
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: StarDraw vrs. CorelDraw5?

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <abfcnzabfcnzarg.fnflpv0.pminews@news.apk.net>, Tarquelne <osric@apk.net>
writes:
>Right now I'm using CorelDraw5 under WinOS/2, and I'm considering
>getting ahold of StarOffice, and running it under OS/2 and/or Linux.
>
>Question:  How well does StarDraw stack up against CorelDraw5?  Is
>StarDraw a "full featured" vector graphics program, or more of a "we
>wanted to say we had a draw program in the suite" sort of thing?
>
>Thanks,
>
>                                            Tarquelne
>                                       <osric@apk.net>
>        I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
>                                  ************************
>Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
>___________________________________________________________
>"People don't quit playing because they grow old.
>They grow old because they quit playing."
> - Oliver Wendell Holmes
>
>

I was fortunate to run across a copy of Corel Draw 2.5 for os/2.
It is a wonderful product. If StarDraw is the product bundled
withing StarOffice, I would say that Corel is markedly more
powerful. Don't even know if Corel is distributing 2.5 for os/2
anymore. The Computer Services office at my place of work
was tossing it out since everyone is on windows. I grabbed
it out of a discard box. Everything was there. Couldn't believe
it. Merry Christmas to me!

Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     28-Dec-99 04:57:04
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Yo Ivan,
The following are the download sites referenced on LGS own site. Do you see
the
.ru? do you understand how domain names are assigned? The internet is a
virtual
world.
The hoods are hiding in the Ukraine the accomplices are in .ru

<TD>Mirror 2 <A
HREF="http://zuko.istu.udm.ru/ftp/users/lgs/sfp09b59.zip">SafeFire&nbsp;PPP</A>
</TD><TD
<TD>Mirror 3 (ftp) <A
HREF="ftp://ftp.os2.spb.ru/pub/lgs/sfp09b59.zip">SafeFire&nbsp;PPP</A></TD><TD
<TD>Mirror 4 <A
HREF="http://logos.relcom.ru/~os2ok/soft/sfppp/download/sfp09b59.zip"

Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>
> A person who see no difference between Russia and Ukraine can't talk about
> ignorance.
>
> Cheers,
> Ivan
>

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From: rsteiner@visi.com                                 27-Dec-99 23:27:03
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 03:17:21
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.apps, "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
spake unto us, saying:

>These are problems with InJoy Firewall (for LAN), not InJoy Dialer. I've
>never used the latter and all the dispute is about LGS vs FX firewall
>products after all.

Sorry -- I thought (mistakenly) that the one was an extension of the
other.  I don't use firewall software under OS/2.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@visi.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           !!!teG I sdrawkcaB eroM ehT oG I sdrawroF eroM ehT

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From: brittonm@sympatico.ca                             28-Dec-99 06:56:03
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 03:17:21
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca>

I would ask that everyone consider the following PERSONAL opinions,

1) Bjarne has spent years providing superb support for his users, no matter
how
small the user, or how large his problem. This has resulted in Bjarne/FX
acquiring a sound knowledge base of this technology. To the extent that now if
you have a problem the chances are FX can resolve it rapidly and accurately.

2) During his association with FX Sergi acquired this experience the easy way,
and got paid for doing it......
I am an engineer and it is standard practice to not use knowledge gained from
employment for 3 or more years, this includes working for a direct competitor.
This is usually legally binding, but it is also a moral obligation that Sergi
has ignored.

3) If FX persue a legal action it will cost money, which would probably result
in prices rising.. so the user ends up paying

4) The OS2 community has from inception, benefited from the cooperation of
individuals and organisations to produce solutions, which has resulted in many
excellent CHEAP solutions (Injoy, SIO, CM2.....) Sergi has jepodised this by
his actions, which I THINK is the first time such a situation has arisen.

5) The issue of debug code, which is normally dormant, shows the FX concern
with solving end user problems. They recognise, probably from past experience,
that unusal problems require more specific information than usual. I am all
for
the inclusion of debug code, if it helps the end user solve hard to define
problems.

6) Bjarne has earned the respect of the user community  the hard way, and I
personally consider it my obligation to support Bjarne. Consider the
ramifications if we, the users, do not support those organisations providing
us, the user, with the tools we need.

7) If Sergi/LGS are willing to found there organisation on borrowed
information, is it not possible that they will resort to similar actions in
the
future. What about the effects on GNU based software., it could lead to a
freeze on cooperative development, and that would be a disaster for the OS2
community.

Once a thief, always a thief.....

Go for it Bjarne... the support is out there

Britt



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From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com                       28-Dec-99 06:58:03
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 03:17:21
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD )

In message <3867a848$3$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru> - "Ivan Adzhubei"
<ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> writes:

<snips>
>In <0x5Z4oHpvSlR092yn@visi.com>, on 12/27/99 
>   at 11:05 AM, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) said:
>
>>Could you elaborate on the general nature of the problems that you have
>>encountered with InJoy?
>
>These are problems with InJoy Firewall (for LAN), not InJoy Dialer. I've
>never used the latter and all the dispute is about LGS vs FX firewall
>products after all.
>
>I have tried to install evaluation copy of FX firewall product quite a few
>months ago, so I am not sure I can recall all the problems right now.
>First, it refused to work with my NIC/drivers and traped the system. I was
>able to workaround this by replacing the NIC, but the firewall plugin
>never worked for me.

the firewall plugin NEVER works until you register it..
which you never did..


> All I needed was NAT and whatever I tried it simply
>did not work. Then I discovered LGS SafeFire (still in beta at the time)

you didn't try registering it, did you?

did you 'discover' LGS during your search in fido7.su.os2.wanted ..
what WERE you "wanting" in all those posts..
anyone here read Russian?...maybe we can see Ivan Adzhubei's true colors by
reading the posts and see if he was looking for an InJoy crack in:

http://x25.deja.com/[ST_rn=ap,ST_Tracker=0508]/dnquery.xp?search=word&default
Op=and&query=%7ea%20(ivan@protein.bio.msu.su)%20%26%20%7eg%20(fido7.su.os2.wa
nted)&svcclass=dnserver&ST=&CONTEXT=946353004.668139537

<note: there should be no spaces nor end-of-line-feeds in the above line>

--
DenverD AT delphi DOT com
All addresses are anti-spam spoofs...you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!

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From: ralvy@compuserve.com                              27-Dec-99 23:32:27
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 05:20:08
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: "Ralph Alvy" <ralvy@compuserve.com>

Try MSE. Find it on BMT Micro's ftp site or Web page. I use it
all the time, and I own a copy of Object Desktop. I still prefer
MSE's Virtual Desktops, along with its great mouse and system
enhancements.

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:06:54 +0100 (CET), Kim Haverblad wrote:

>Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop functions
>except for Object DeskTop?
>
>

---
Ralph Alvy
ralvy@compuserve.com


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From: nospam                                            28-Dec-99 19:03:18
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 05:20:08
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 video corruption w/ TP770 + OS/2

From: glenn@<nospam>senet.com.au (Glenn Thompson)

Speaking of video corruption in netscape 461.

Friend of mine with Warp 4 with fixpack 12 is having a problem with 
textboxes,
they won't show up on any webpage. All he sees is an underscore line 
where 
the box should be. Anyone know anything of this type of problem ?

He has changed all his video drivers and changed his video cards as 
well, 
but the problem still persists.

V/Cards = Trident AGP and an Virge

Funny = I have almost the same setup as him except for the CPU and 
V/card
and I haven't had any problems. I think the preoblem arose beofre he 
fixpacked upto 12.

TIA
Glenn.

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From: jasper_de_keijzer@nl.compuware.com                28-Dec-99 09:24:04
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 05:20:08
Subj: Re: StarDraw vrs. CorelDraw5?

From: Jasper de Keijzer <jasper_de_keijzer@nl.compuware.com>

Why don't you have a look at DrawIt?
http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/drawit.html

regards,
Jasper de Keijzer.


Tarquelne wrote:

> Right now I'm using CorelDraw5 under WinOS/2, and I'm considering
> getting ahold of StarOffice, and running it under OS/2 and/or Linux.
>
> Question:  How well does StarDraw stack up against CorelDraw5?  Is
> StarDraw a "full featured" vector graphics program, or more of a "we
> wanted to say we had a draw program in the suite" sort of thing?
>
> Thanks,
>
>                                             Tarquelne
>                                        <osric@apk.net>
>         I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
>                                   ************************
> Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
> ___________________________________________________________
> "People don't quit playing because they grow old.
> They grow old because they quit playing."
>  - Oliver Wendell Holmes

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From: hharris@netcomuk.co.uk                            27-Dec-99 10:48:26
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 05:20:08
Subj: Re: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: "Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk>

On 27 Dec 1999 10:18:37 GMT, Will Rose wrote:


>If anyone's found a solution I'd like to know it; I used EPM's
>dictionary quite a bit, and if it won't work with FP 12 I'll
>have to drop back (to FP 9?).

FWIW, it still works with FP9.

--
Howard


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From: kylemw@omnisig.com                                28-Dec-99 06:51:03
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 10:22:01
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 video corruption w/ TP770 + OS/2

From: kylemw <kylemw@omnisig.com>

Hi Glenn,

	I do believe that your friend has bumped into 
a known problem, mentioned here recently, but no
longer an active thread.

	Comm/2 v4.61 uses a default font that may
or may not be installed on your friends machine.
(I believe it was Times New Roman)  Set the default
fonts and sizes in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance
-> Fonts to fonts that are actually loaded on the
system and this headache should go away.

	The "line" appears because the font "height"
is zero.

-- 
TTFN

Kyle

As you type through the keyboard of life,
always keep one finger on the ESC key.

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From: sachmo@horn.net                                   28-Dec-99 12:39:16
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 10:22:01
Subj: WIN-OS/2 and Corel Word Perfect

From: sachmo@horn.net

A couple not-so-bright questions:

Is there a way to defeat MS's (Word Perfect) mandatory load to C:\ ?

Is there a way to work around the 8.3 filename to accomodate long 
filenames?

I believe the answers to both are "no" but just checking.

Thanks

Gene
---------------
The minstrel boy to the war is gone
In the ranks of death you'll find him;
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard;
Words shall never sound in slavery!
   --Thomas Moore (1779-1852)

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           28-Dec-99 15:29:11
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 10:22:01
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <849n1v$a82$1@news.inet.tele.dk>, on 12/28/99 
   at 06:58 AM, dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD ) said:

>In message <3867a848$3$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru> - "Ivan Adzhubei"
><ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> writes:

>>>Could you elaborate on the general nature of the problems that you have
>>>encountered with InJoy?
>>
>>These are problems with InJoy Firewall (for LAN), not InJoy Dialer. I've
>>never used the latter and all the dispute is about LGS vs FX firewall
>>products after all.
>>
>>I have tried to install evaluation copy of FX firewall product quite a few
>>months ago, so I am not sure I can recall all the problems right now.
>>First, it refused to work with my NIC/drivers and traped the system. I was
>>able to workaround this by replacing the NIC, but the firewall plugin
>>never worked for me.

>the firewall plugin NEVER works until you register it..
>which you never did..

Aha, so this was the problem. Thanks for explanation :-). I can't
understand why to place a freely downloadable evaluation software if it
does not work without a registration, tho...

>> All I needed was NAT and whatever I tried it simply
>>did not work. Then I discovered LGS SafeFire (still in beta at the time)

>you didn't try registering it, did you?

I wanted to *evaluate* it before registering, do you consider this
illegal? This software was placed on a vendor's web site and explicitely
listed as freely downloadable evaluation copy after all. And I never pay
for software without first trying it. Especially for a professional
quality software intended to run on a server and serve several dozens of
user, not only me myself.

>did you 'discover' LGS during your search in fido7.su.os2.wanted .. what

No, a friend of mine advised me, so what?

>WERE you "wanting" in all those posts..

As you can see, even without being able to read in Russian, almost all of
my postings to this FIDO newsgroup were replies to other people requests
(note the Re: clauses in subject lines). People come there looking for
some software and I gave them URL's or advices on where to look for it as
much as I can. Not everybody in this country has direct access to the
Internet and can use on-line search engines and directories. I consider
everybody is trying to provide this kind of help on Usenet either. I never
seen you spending your precious time on helping others here though.

>anyone here read Russian?...maybe we can see Ivan Adzhubei's true colors
>by reading the posts and see if he was looking for an InJoy crack in:

>http://x25.deja.com/[ST_rn=ap,ST_Tracker=0508]/dnquery.xp?search=word&default
>Op=and&query=%7ea%20(ivan@protein.bio.msu.su)%20%26%20%7eg%20(fido7.su.os2.wa
>nted)&svcclass=dnserver&ST=&CONTEXT=946353004.668139537

Don't waste your time, you will not find anything illegal in my posts. In
fact, you will not find *anything* about F/X Comm products at all.
Actually, I can't recall posting *any* requests to this newsgroup, only
replies. This is because I happen to be lucky enough to have unlimited
access to Internet, and I was always trying to share my experience and
knowledge with others.

And what you are doing here, tell me?

Cheers,
Ivan

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           28-Dec-99 15:50:29
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 10:22:01
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>

In <3867AED3.3DD42AF0@nls.net>, on 12/27/99 
   at 06:31 PM, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> said:

>This is called lying.

What is called lying? Too much beer probably, you really start sounding
illiterate...

> You have been a bad boy now go sit in the corner
>and shut-up before you implicate yourself any further you aren't really a
>criminal. Just a bad boy now SHUT-UP before you hurt yourself.
>Receiving stolen property, even for beta testing is still a crime. YOU
>HAVE BEEN WARNED.

This is a free world and you have no right to dictate whom to shut up and
whom to talk. You are free to use your software to filtering capabilities
to select what you want to hear and what you are not, however. I
personally is adding you to my newsreader's killfile right now.

So long, David D. Huff, Jr.

Cheers,
Ivan

>Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>>
>> BTW, I am beta-testing now the new version of SafeFire which has a
>> completely new NDIS protocol wrapper driver (the only piece of software in
>> question between LGS and FX, IMO). It has new component design which no
>> longer resembles FX NDIS wrapping device driver in any way.
>>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> "Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Ivan Adzhubei" <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su>
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: jhimmel@i-2000.com                                28-Dec-99 13:08:06
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 10:22:01
Subj: BA/2 2000 problems

From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman)

Have not been able to complete a backup using the new BA/2 2000 
workstation. Backup exits, closing all open BA/2 windows at some point
during the backup, or exits with a SYS3175 during backup. Anyone else?

Will be contacting CDS today.

[[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]]

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From: jknott@ibm.net                                    28-Dec-99 07:07:03
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 12:08:08
Subj: Re: Smartsuite 1.5 for OS/2

From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott)

In article <29bb6a0e.c6336918@usw-ex0101-004.remarq.com>,
John Desmarais <jdesmaraNOjdSPAM@novanthealth.org.invalid> wrote:
>Lotus released a new version of Smartsuite for OS/2 this month. 
>Anybody using yet?  Better? Worse? Indifferent?  Is it worth $150?

I have it, but I haven't done anything with it yet.


-- 
E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     28-Dec-99 14:09:09
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 12:08:08
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>


Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>
> And I never pay for software without first trying it. Especially for a
> professional
> quality software intended to run on a server and serve several dozens of
> user, not only me myself.
>
>
> As you can see, even without being able to read in Russian, almost all of
> my postings to this FIDO newsgroup were replies to other people requests
> (note the Re: clauses in subject lines). People come there looking for
> some software and I gave them URL's or advices on where to look for it as
> much as I can. Not everybody in this country has direct access to the
> Internet and can use on-line search engines and directories. I consider
> everybody is trying to provide this kind of help on Usenet either. I never
> seen you spending your precious time on helping others here though.
>
> Don't waste your time, you will not find anything illegal in my posts. In
> fact, you will not find *anything* about F/X Comm products at all.
> Actually, I can't recall posting *any* requests to this newsgroup, only
> replies. This is because I happen to be lucky enough to have unlimited
> access to Internet, and I was always trying to share my experience and
> knowledge with others.
>
> And what you are doing here, tell me?
>

That you are both a thief and a liar. If you were here in the states there
would
be probable cause from your own statements to get a warrant and search your
computer.

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           28-Dec-99 14:48:01
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 12:08:08
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 video corruption w/ TP770 + OS/2

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:51:06, kylemw <kylemw@omnisig.com> wrote:

> Hi Glenn,
> 
> 	I do believe that your friend has bumped into 
> a known problem, mentioned here recently, but no
> longer an active thread.
> 
> 	Comm/2 v4.61 uses a default font that may
> or may not be installed on your friends machine.
> (I believe it was Times New Roman)  Set the default
> fonts and sizes in Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance
> -> Fonts to fonts that are actually loaded on the
> system and this headache should go away.
> 
> 	The "line" appears because the font "height"
> is zero.
> 

Actually, the font that causes the problem is
"Courier New" which is normally installed with
WINOS2.

The recommendation is to change the
font selection to "Courier".

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: jdesmaraNOjdSPAM@novanthealth.or...               28-Dec-99 06:46:02
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 12:08:08
Subj: Re: Smartsuite 1.5 for OS/2

Message sender: jdesmaraNOjdSPAM@novanthealth.org.invalid

From: John Desmarais <jdesmaraNOjdSPAM@novanthealth.org.invalid>

In article <3867D7BC.C260F8C9@usa.net>, Terry Norton <ccsten@usa.net>
wrote:
> John Desmarais wrote:
> >
> > Lotus released a new version of Smartsuite for OS/2 this month.
> > Anybody using yet?  Better? Worse? Indifferent?  Is it worth
> $150?
> >
> > -=>John D.
> >
> I haven't bought it yet.  Before you do, better have a look at an
> article in VAR magazine called Computer Reseller.  The article is
> at:
> http://www.crn.com/thisweek/news.asp?ArticleID=12356
> I think I may have a look at Clearlook from Sundial Systems.

Mildly depressing, but lack of future versions doesn't concern me as
much as the functionality of the current version.

-=>John D.


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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            28-Dec-99 15:07:28
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 12:08:08
Subj: Re: BA/2 2000 problems

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

BA/2000 is working for me -- after initial problems that turned out to
be caused by a flaky SCSI card.

Alan


James Himmelman wrote:
> 
> Have not been able to complete a backup using the new BA/2 2000
> workstation. Backup exits, closing all open BA/2 windows at some point
> during the backup, or exits with a SYS3175 during backup. Anyone else?
> 
> Will be contacting CDS today.
> 
> [[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]]

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From: bcallen@attglobal.net                             28-Dec-99 15:50:04
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 14:16:07
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: bcallen@attglobal.net (Barbara Allen)

In message
<BGtODEdD7Dku-pn2-hUqXLHOHx3Gd@n449.telekabel.euronet.nl> -
News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) writes:
:>
:>
:>> stan wrote:
:>>
:>> I've missed all this can someone pls provide a url for this isp
:>
:>See that you are using ProNews. If you (or your ISP's newsserver)
:>missed something in the trhead you can easily "backtrack". Rightclick
:>in the message window and select "Explore thread". It will pop up your
:>webengine (provided you told it where to find the application you prefer
:>to surf the www with) with the thread on Deja showing in the window. 
:>
:>Regards from Leeuwarden
:>Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
:>---
:>usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (.at. becomes @)
:>----

It also might help to try this:

http://safe123.net/os2/index.html

Barbara

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From: esko.kauppinen@ibm.net                            28-Dec-99 14:11:26
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 14:16:07
Subj: Re: printing

From: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>

On Mon, 27 Dec 99 21:18:52 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

>I have warp 3 here.
>
>2 things.
>
>1. anyone know why printing to the Epson Stylus Color 600 drags the system
>down?
>
>2.  on printing from the dos or OS/2 command line, there are gaps every few
>pages.  but do a drag n' drop, printer prints no gaps at all.
>
>I've used both the epson german drivers v1020 & the Omni drivers dated 7/99.
>
>ideas on this?
>
>also, I noticed the omni drivers doesn't display its version number but shows
>it as ???.???  Also, is it normal for the omni drivers to have 2 different
>setup options?

 Have you tried the EPOMNI driver which is for Stylus 600?
 I use it with Stylus 640 and Warp4 and the photo printing is superb.

 I have tried the OMNI and I didn't experience the problems you have
 but the result was not so good as with EPOMNI.

 Esko


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From: ceo@lgs.kiev.ua                                   28-Dec-99 15:24:20
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 14:16:07
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: ceo@lgs.kiev.ua

In this thread we could see a problem: Many people that even
don't know
simple facts (like correct country name) trust all F/X says.
They don't even try to ask opposite side to hear it's position.
But fortunately this is not private post of the hided
"advertisement"
company F/X did and we can reply.

Here is our vision of the events (in chronological order)

1) We ordered NDIS driver to Sergey (I don't know why BJ tries
to set an equality
   between Sergey with LGS. May be it is only possible politics
for him to try
   to win).
2) After all software were written and tested locally we
announced our product.

3) BMT Micro stopped selling our software.
   F/X and BMT Micro Inc. contacted us regarding our product.
Of course we were
   sure that we own all the code, so we answered "We did it".
   All messages from Bjarne was just like these in news group
and could not be
   used as a starting point for understanding.

   This was the last contact between F/X and LGS until now. But
the
   pressure continued to raise and now we know why (BJ's
mailings).

4) We started writing new set of drivers. This item should be
specially
   highlighted.

   NDIS spec's is complex enough and in many places they just
not clear
   or suspicious. Problem becomes even more complex when NDIS
driver is
   a protocol driver, because this part of spec in not
available.

   Original driver were made as Filter (or Intermediate NDIS
driver). I.e.
   There must be a MAC and a Protocol and the Driver between
them. All this
   driver did is filtering the stream of packets between MAC
and the Protocol.
   Unfortunately OS/2 MPTS do not support such a "Filters" and
so user can not
   configure the Driver using MPTS setup program. Probably some
kind of solution
   exists but not LGS nor F/X is aware about that solution.

   Our new set of drivers consist of two drivers: One "MAC"
type and other
   "Protocol" type. They can be used separately and need not
any additional
   drivers (i.e. one can use real MAC and our "Protocol"
without any real
   Protocol, that is vital for Original driver). Our new
drivers implements
   all the needed functions, like initialization, shutdown or
selecting
   needed packets (unlike the Original driver new one don't
need to
   make all the stream of packet flow through the filter). And
of course
   they can be easily configured using standard MPTS setup.

   Should be especially noted that knowledge about intermediate
   driver and their organization is not helpful anymore as soon
as we starting
   talking about protocol driver. NDIS toolkit contains an
sample
   of intermediate device driver (called WEDGE) designed to
help debug
   MAC device drivers.

   Note that the reasons for writing new drivers is pure
technical and
   not related to F/X issue.

5) We announced our new product: SafeFire PPP.
6) F/X released Injoy Connect. As far as we know this product
was in beta for
   few years and it is interesting to listen to a reason of
such an urgent
   release.
   A note: SafeFire PPP implements both PPP client and server
and so the
   functionally comparable set of F/X software is Injoy Dialer
plus Injoy Connect.

7) Announce of PPPoE support and WarpCast silence. The
situation is very
   interesting. We will describe it here and it's up to you to
make
   decisions:
    a) First SafeFire PPP announcements went through WarpCast
without
       any problems.
    b) First announcement that was dropped was first PPPoE
announcement
    c) There was NO reply from Warpcast since then
       (except standard robot "Thank you for submitting
       a message to WarpCast. Your submission has been received
and will be
       processed by WarpCast staff as soon as possible.")
    d) In few hours about this our first PPPoE post every one
could see F/X's
       PPPoE announcement at WarpCast -
http://www.os2ss.com/warpcast/wc4464.html
       (And we all know that there is no software available for
public yet).
8) os2bbs was the first who contacted us regarding this private
e-mail war.
9) This thread started by public answer of one of F/X users.

As a result of F/X actions SafeFire Firewall is not available
for purchase
for some time. SafeFire Firewall is removed from downloads at
our site.

Therefore we consider this issue is CLOSED from our side.
But new problem appears. Copyright status of that device driver
is not clear.
But it not clear not only for us. It not clear for F/X too.
We see only way to resolve it in a fair manner: F/X should
write device driver
from scratch.




Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: cstumpf@monmouth.com                              28-Dec-99 10:40:12
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 14:16:07
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com>

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:24:41 GMT, ceo@lgs.kiev.ua wrote:

:>In this thread we could see a problem: Many people that even
:>don't know
:>simple facts (like correct country name) trust all F/X says.
:>They don't even try to ask opposite side to hear it's position.
:>But fortunately this is not private post of the hided
:>"advertisement"
:>company F/X did and we can reply.
:>
:>Here is our vision of the events (in chronological order)
:>
:>1) We ordered NDIS driver to Sergey (I don't know why BJ tries
:>to set an equality
:>   between Sergey with LGS. May be it is only possible politics
:>for him to try
:>   to win).

Well, from this it looks like you were duped by Sergey into buying stolen
code.  I'm starting to have some sympathy for you, until I get to the part
below.

--snip--

:>
:>Therefore we consider this issue is CLOSED from our side.
:>But new problem appears. Copyright status of that device driver
:>is not clear.
:>But it not clear not only for us. It not clear for F/X too.
:>We see only way to resolve it in a fair manner: F/X should
:>write device driver
:>from scratch.
:>

WTF, you are suggesting that FX, who owns the code and created the driver in
the first place make a new one?  What the hell for?  Just so that you can get
away with using stolen code?  I now have no sympathy for you.  This is a
completely unreasonable suggestion to resolve the dispute.  Plus there is the
matter of the stolen documentation and configuration files.



		Chris Stumpf
		C.S.E. Computer Services
		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
		

web:    http://cse.anterras.net
email:	cse@anterras.net
phone: (732)496-4699



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From: maxikins@os2bbs.com                               28-Dec-99 16:03:17
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 14:16:07
Subj: Re: WIN-OS/2 and Corel Word Perfect

From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff)

I have WP Win 7 loaded on my G: partiton.  I don't believe there's 
anything left on c: related to it.  If anyone knows of a way for it to
see long file names, I'd love to hear it.  Other than its inability to
recognize long file names, I'd think that WPWIN 7 was a native OS/2 
program because it works so well.

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:39:33, sachmo@horn.net wrote:

> A couple not-so-bright questions:
> 
> Is there a way to defeat MS's (Word Perfect) mandatory load to C:\ ?
> 
> Is there a way to work around the 8.3 filename to accomodate long 
> filenames?
> 
> I believe the answers to both are "no" but just checking.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gene
> ---------------
> The minstrel boy to the war is gone
> In the ranks of death you'll find him;
> One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard;
> Words shall never sound in slavery!
>    --Thomas Moore (1779-1852)
> 


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From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su                           28-Dec-99 16:11:26
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 14:16:07
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su (Ivan Adzhubei)

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:09:19, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> 
wrote:

> Ivan Adzhubei wrote:
> 
> >
> > And I never pay for software without first trying it. Especially for a
> > professional
> > quality software intended to run on a server and serve several dozens of
> > user, not only me myself.
> >
> >
> > As you can see, even without being able to read in Russian, almost all of
> > my postings to this FIDO newsgroup were replies to other people requests
> > (note the Re: clauses in subject lines). People come there looking for
> > some software and I gave them URL's or advices on where to look for it as
> > much as I can. Not everybody in this country has direct access to the
> > Internet and can use on-line search engines and directories. I consider
> > everybody is trying to provide this kind of help on Usenet either. I never
> > seen you spending your precious time on helping others here though.
> >
> > Don't waste your time, you will not find anything illegal in my posts. In
> > fact, you will not find *anything* about F/X Comm products at all.
> > Actually, I can't recall posting *any* requests to this newsgroup, only
> > replies. This is because I happen to be lucky enough to have unlimited
> > access to Internet, and I was always trying to share my experience and
> > knowledge with others.
> >
> > And what you are doing here, tell me?
> >
> 
> That you are both a thief and a liar. If you were here in the states there
would
> be probable cause from your own statements to get a warrant and search your
> computer.

I think you are both a crazy idiot and a mentaly disordered person. 
You need to go and make an appointment with your nearest local 
physician and psychiatrist immediately.

Cheers,
Ivan 


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From: mtve@hal-pc.org                                   28-Dec-99 10:03:13
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 14:16:07
Subj: Re: SmartSuite 1.0 downloadable patches/upgrades?

From: Marvin Volz <mtve@hal-pc.org>

There are individual patches for 123, Approach, WP, etc on the Lotus
site. Have to manually unzip and replace files.
MTV

B&A wrote:

> G'day!
>
>   Having run into the odd bug in Lotus SmartSuite for OS/2
> Warp 4 v1.0, I was wondering if there were any DOWNLOADABLE
> patches/upgrades available?  I know that you can purchase
> v1.1 and I have seen a v1.5 patch (for v1.1?), but I haven't
> seen anything applicable to v1.0.  Would abyone know if such
> patches exist?
>
>   Thanks for any help!
>
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>  Brad & Alison van Eps     vaneps@powerup.com.au
>  OS/2 WARPed for REAL power!
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     28-Dec-99 16:59:09
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 14:16:07
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>


ceo@lgs.kiev.ua wrote:

>
> 4) We started writing new set of drivers. This item should be
> specially
>    highlighted.
>
>    NDIS spec's is complex enough and in many places they just
> not clear
>    or suspicious. Problem becomes even more complex when NDIS
> driver is
>    a protocol driver, because this part of spec in not
> available.

So who did you steal the technology from this time?

>    Original driver were made as Filter (or Intermediate NDIS
> driver). I.e.
>    There must be a MAC and a Protocol and the Driver between
> them. All this
>    driver did is filtering the stream of packets between MAC
> and the Protocol.
>    Unfortunately OS/2 MPTS do not support such a "Filters" and
> so user can not
>    configure the Driver using MPTS setup program. Probably some
> kind of solution
>    exists but not LGS nor F/X is aware about that solution.

Oh but of course you had inside information about your competitor since
you bought Sergey.

>    Our new set of drivers consist of two drivers: One "MAC"
> type and other
>    "Protocol" type. They can be used separately and need not
> any additional
>    drivers (i.e. one can use real MAC and our "Protocol"
> without any real
>    Protocol, that is vital for Original driver). Our new
> drivers implements
>    all the needed functions, like initialization, shutdown or
> selecting
>    needed packets (unlike the Original driver new one don't
> need to
>    make all the stream of packet flow through the filter). And
> of course
>    they can be easily configured using standard MPTS setup.
>
>    Should be especially noted that knowledge about intermediate
>    driver and their organization is not helpful anymore as soon
> as we starting
>    talking about protocol driver.

So we are to feel sorry for you because stolen technlogy no longer feeds
your fire?

> NDIS toolkit contains an
> sample
>    of intermediate device driver (called WEDGE) designed to
> help debug
>    MAC device drivers.
>
>    Note that the reasons for writing new drivers is pure
> technical and
>    not related to F/X issue.
>
> 5) We announced our new product: SafeFire PPP.
> 6) F/X released Injoy Connect. As far as we know this product
> was in beta for
>    few years and it is interesting to listen to a reason of
> such an urgent
>    release.

Nice competitors upgrade prices you were offering for versions 1.0+ I
think you knew where your competition was, you had Sergey didn't you?
More lies look at the purchase.app file generated in your own install
from sfire.zip 3/5/1999. Give me a break how stupid can you be?

>    A note: SafeFire PPP implements both PPP client and server
> and so the
>    functionally comparable set of F/X software is Injoy Dialer
> plus Injoy Connect.
>
> 7) Announce of PPPoE support and WarpCast silence. The
> situation is very
>    interesting. We will describe it here and it's up to you to
> make
>    decisions:

We did, you stole the technlogy and we knew it. You should have gone on
to other things. And don't pick on Microsoft, they will not be so easy.

>     a) First SafeFire PPP announcements went through WarpCast
> without
>        any problems.
>     b) First announcement that was dropped was first PPPoE
> announcement
>     c) There was NO reply from Warpcast since then
>        (except standard robot "Thank you for submitting
>        a message to WarpCast. Your submission has been received
> and will be
>        processed by WarpCast staff as soon as possible.")
>     d) In few hours about this our first PPPoE post every one
> could see F/X's
>        PPPoE announcement at WarpCast -
> http://www.os2ss.com/warpcast/wc4464.html
>        (And we all know that there is no software available for
> public yet).

Probably right there. It takes more time to develop than to steal.

>
> 8) os2bbs was the first who contacted us regarding this private
> e-mail war.
> 9) This thread started by public answer of one of F/X users.

How about the ad you posted in the comp.os.os2.apps news group,
12/22/1999 that has many times the replys?

Path:

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                   From:
                        "Link Guard Solutions Ltd." <devdir@lgs.kiev.ua>

             Newsgroups:
                        comp.os.os2.comm, comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip,
comp.os.os2.apps
                 Subject:
                        New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!
                   Date:
                        Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:02:19 +0200
             Organization:
                        LGS Ltd.
                   Lines:
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          X-Complaints-To:
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SafeFire PPP 0.9 beta 59

You are a liar and a thief.

>
> As a result of F/X actions SafeFire Firewall is not available
> for purchase
> for some time. SafeFire Firewall is removed from downloads at
> our site.
>

Is this an admission of guilt?

> Therefore we consider this issue is CLOSED from our side.
> But new problem appears. Copyright status of that device driver
> is not clear.

Then you did freaking lie in you ad. You stated that you did have the
Copyright. Are you just stupid?

SafeFire PPP 0.9 beta 59

Copyright (C) 1999  Link Guard Solutions Ltd.

Link Guard Solutions is proud to present new beta of SafeFire PPP.

SafeFire PPP with the new PM user interface IS the most simple
way to the Internet.

> But it not clear not only for us. It not clear for F/X too.
> We see only way to resolve it in a fair manner: F/X should
> write device driver
> from scratch.

They develped it to begin with why should they do it again. Also your
advertisement in comp.os.os2.apps stated that you were copyrighted would
you please tell me the patent numbers so I can verify it myself?
Yesterday I posted the URL for the patent office it would sure clear
some things up.

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: osric@apk.net                                     28-Dec-99 12:13:15
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 14:16:07
Subj: Re: StarDraw vrs. CorelDraw5?

From: Tarquelne <osric@apk.net>

>Why don't you have a look at DrawIt?

I bought DrawIt, as a matter of fact.
Unfortunatly, though, its not as well suited as CorelDraw5
to a number of my projects.


                                            Tarquelne
                                       <osric@apk.net>
        I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
                                  ************************
Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
___________________________________________________________
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From: kenames@earthlink.net                             28-Dec-99 16:59:01
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 16:40:08
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: kenames@earthlink.net

Yea, I have a copy of it here, nice program and all but had a couple 
problems that fade into obscurity at the moment. I think someone was 
trying to resurrect it as a commercial program but unsure. It does 
indeed tho have a mutiple desktop setting.

Ken
 
> Does anyone know about a program called 'Skyscraper' or
> something similar ? Was it something in the virtual desktop
> line or no ? (have only seen the ads in old magazines, but it 
> looked interesting - you can tell it was an old program, from
> before *everything* OS/2-ish was called x/2)
> 
> 
> 
> >---------------------------------------------------------
> > From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
> >             Healthcare Computer Consultant
> >                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
> >    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel
> >
> >  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
> >             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
> >---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> --
> hrad ngravvd
> 



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From: huffd@nls.net                                     28-Dec-99 17:17:10
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 16:40:08
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

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You told me yesterday I was in your kill file. Damn, now I am worried. Am I
seeing
things or did I see a post from you stating that I was in your kill file. No,
here it
is in the comp.os.os2.comm news group.

Geez Ivan, first you say you are going to do something and then you don't.
Where is
your follow through?

> This is a free world and you have no right to dictate whom to shut up and
> whom to talk. You are free to use your software to filtering capabilities
> to select what you want to hear and what you are not, however. I
> personally is adding you to my newsreader's killfile right now.
>
> So long, David D. Huff, Jr.
>
> Cheers,
> Ivan
>
Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>
> I think you are both a crazy idiot and a mentaly disordered person.
> You need to go and make an appointment with your nearest local
> physician and psychiatrist immediately.
>
> Cheers,
> Ivan

Thank you Ivan I was beginning to think I wasn't getting through to you. I
will quit
picking on you now. I needed someone to continually flame as long as they
promoted the
LGS cause. You see some people have a higher moral fiber and it is very
distaseful to
hear that someone would even consider something endorsing LGS in this
situation. You
know as well as I do that there will be no court hearing on the subject and
LGS has
already withdrawn part of their product line to keep from being shutdown in
this
country alltogether.

Cheers,
David D. Huff Jr.

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<html>
You told me yesterday I was in your kill file. Damn, now I am worried.
Am I seeing things or did I see a post from you stating that I was in your
kill file. No, here it is in the comp.os.os2.comm news group.
<p>Geez Ivan, first you say you are going to do something and then you
don't. Where is your follow through?
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<pre>This is a free world and you have no right to dictate whom to shut up and
whom to talk. You are free to use your software to filtering capabilities
to select what you want to hear and what you are not, however. I
personally is adding you to my newsreader's killfile right now.

So long, David D. Huff, Jr.

Cheers,
Ivan</pre>
</blockquote>
Ivan Adzhubei wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<br>I think you are both a crazy idiot and a mentaly disordered person.
<br>You need to go and make an appointment with your nearest local
<br>physician and psychiatrist immediately.
<p>Cheers,
<br>Ivan</blockquote>
Thank you Ivan I was beginning to think I wasn't getting through to you.
I will quit picking on you now. I needed someone to continually flame as
long as they promoted the LGS cause. You see some people have a higher
moral fiber and it is very distaseful to hear that someone would even consider
something endorsing LGS in this situation. You know as well as I do that
there will be no court hearing on the subject and LGS has already withdrawn
part of their product line to keep from being shutdown in this country
alltogether.
<p>Cheers,
<br>David D. Huff Jr.</html>

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From: donm@ftel.net                                     28-Dec-99 17:34:08
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 16:40:08
Subj: Re: Smartsuite 1.5 for OS/2

From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse)

In message <3867D7BC.C260F8C9@usa.net> - Terry Norton <ccsten@usa.net> writes:
:>
:>John Desmarais wrote:
:>> 
:>> Lotus released a new version of Smartsuite for OS/2 this month.
:>> Anybody using yet?  Better? Worse? Indifferent?  Is it worth $150?
:>> 
:>> -=>John D.
:>> 
:>
:>I haven't bought it yet.  Before you do, better have a look at an
:>article in VAR magazine called Computer Reseller.  The article is at:
:>
:>http://www.crn.com/thisweek/news.asp?ArticleID=12356
:>
:>I think I may have a look at Clearlook from Sundial Systems.
:>
:>-- 
:>
:>Terry Norton
:>Warped with OS/2
:>
:>    A sign of the '90s:
:>       Your supervisor doesn't have the ability to do your job.
:>
:>This OS/2 system uptime is 1 days 04 hours 06 minutes (en).


Tried to purchase the 1.5 upgrade this morning.  Support could not find it at
first, then informed me it wouldn't be ready until 1st week of January.  Add
to that a price of $170 was attached to it.!!!!

Sounds like Lotus would like a complete boycott of it's services for 1)
converting over to Winblows, and 2) treating OS/2 users like the red-headed
step child...




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From: donm@ftel.net                                     28-Dec-99 17:41:00
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 16:40:08
Subj: Re: Cannot Print From StarOffice

From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse)

In message <38618e6e@mindmeld.idcomm.com> - "Jim Boyan" <jimboyan@idcomm.com>
writes:
:>
:>I'm trying to print a calander view from StarOffice, and it fails with the
:>message
:>
:>"Object not accessible.  The object cannot be accessed due to insufficient
:>user rights"
:>
:>Anybody see this??  How do you solve??
:>
:>

Would like a little more information.  What exactly are you trying to print. 
If I create a calendar here, and then print it to our network server.  It
works great.  I actually use this template to maintain the departments
calendar as no one on Winblows can figure out how I do it... :)



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From: hharris@netcomuk.co.uk                            28-Dec-99 18:14:19
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 16:40:08
Subj: Re: Back Again/2000 - has anyone had the evaluation version work?

From: "Howard Harris" <hharris@netcomuk.co.uk>

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:14:56 +0000 (GMT), Howard Harris wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:21:14 +0000, dave@david-lister.co.uk wrote:
>
>>Hi Howard,
>>
>>I didn't catch your original message but gather you have a problem with
>>BA/2000 & HP Colorado 8GB drive?  Me too!  I actually bought the upgrade
>>without checking it (don't know why really) and it recognises my drive
>>fine but will not write a tape.  It keeps saying that the wrong volume is
>>in the drive or that it was written to to another application and must be
>>erased before it can be used.  It does this on erased tapes, initialised
>>tapes, brand new unused tapes, etc, etc.
>>
>>However, it reads my BA/Pro backups and successfully backs up to my hard
>>disk.
>>
>>What problems do you have?  CDS say (as you mention) that they are looking
>>into it but it's been real quite so far!  Please let me know if you hear
>>anything from them.
>
>Our problem is identical and judging from Brad Benson's post in this thread,
>it sounds like he is well on the way to solving it. I cannot recall when I
>last looked forward so eagerly to purchasing a programme. 

Just to add that the excellent folk at CDS have fixed the problem with the HP
Colorado 8GB internal  and my order for the registered version was submitted
gladly.

--
Howard


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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               28-Dec-99 12:27:12
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 16:40:08
Subj: printing

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: printing
BY: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>

> Have you tried the EPOMNI driver which is for Stylus 600?
> I use it with Stylus 640 and Warp4 and the photo printing is superb.
> I have tried the OMNI and I didn't experience the problems you have
> but the result was not so good as with EPOMNI.

I don't think I've ever tried the epomni drivers.  Whats the current version?
-


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From: pcoen@drew.edu                                    28-Dec-99 13:59:11
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 16:40:08
Subj: Re: Smartsuite 1.5 for OS/2

From: Paul Coen <pcoen@drew.edu>

Don Morse wrote:
 
> Sounds like Lotus would like a complete boycott of it's services for 1)
> converting over to Winblows, and 2) treating OS/2 users like the red-headed
> step child...

There's also not been any academic pricing announced yet. I asked
Indelible Blue about it this morning, and they haven't heard anything
at this point.

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From: steve_antispam@aducredit.com                      28-Dec-99 14:34:11
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 19:59:14
Subj: Re: BA/2 2000 problems

From: "Steve Richards" <steve_antispam@aducredit.com>

It works for me from the GUI but does abend when looking for a second tape
from the command line. 

I did have problems at first, like you are having so I reinstalled and
rebooted and then it worked fine.


On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:07:56 GMT, Alan Beagley wrote:

-->BA/2000 is working for me -- after initial problems that turned out to
-->be caused by a flaky SCSI card.
-->
-->Alan
-->
-->
-->James Himmelman wrote:
-->> 
-->> Have not been able to complete a backup using the new BA/2 2000
-->> workstation. Backup exits, closing all open BA/2 windows at some point
-->> during the backup, or exits with a SYS3175 during backup. Anyone else?
-->> 
-->> Will be contacting CDS today.
-->> 
-->> [[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]]



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From: bj@fx.dk                                          28-Dec-99 19:46:26
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 19:59:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Bjarne Jensen <bj@fx.dk>

> 1) We ordered NDIS driver to Sergey (I don't know why BJ tries
> to set an equality between Sergey with LGS.

Dear faceless LGS CEO. I'm quite honoured to see you visit
the OS/2 community for the first time ever. After working
with Sergey for 8 months, I must say you sound a lot like
him :)

If Sergey isn't LGS, then why did Sergey negotiate with GT
Mall about the selling of the Safefire Firewall (and lost)?
A little odd to let an outsider negotiate something that
important.

I just finished a private e-mail conversation with Sergey,
this is why LGS and F/X didn't participate in this thread
for a while. These e-mails came to me from "Sergey I.
Yevtushenko" and I was smart enough to BCC: our conversation
to third parties, so again, I have proof.

The few people that have worked with LGS, have always
wondered why you appear face-less in the public and
don't sign the e-mails in your own name. Vit is the
exception to this rule obviously, probably too young to
understand the harm he is inflicting to his own name.
People that know you from mailing lists and IRC, tell
me in e-mail that you (Sergey) don't try to hide the
fact that you are the main LGS developer. Do I need to
show such an e-mail here?

Also, I find it wierd that on this rather big planet,
after F/X hires Sergey, a business only a few IP numbers
away from Sergey, in the same city, get the notion to
enter the OS/2 market and by coincidence, they choose
to develop exactly the same driver as an F/X employee is
working on. Coincidence?

Considering the fact that LGS was never known before in
the OS/2 community and then suddenly pops up a week
after the release of our software, with an F/X driver
that they bought from the always innocent Sergey I.
Yevtushenko is just too much of a lie for anyone to
believe. Theoretically it could be, but anyone with
common sense is witnessings the worst OS/2 scam ever!

>Should be especially noted that knowledge about
>intermediate driver and their organization is not
>helpful anymore

Knowledge isn't helpful anymore :)

So you finally begin to admit the truth?

I bet the thousands of $$, the NDIS toolkit that earlier
wasn't generally available to the public (was made public
this week by IBM), the PC that you couldn't afford, our
docs, our beta testing of the technology and the rest of
our technology wasn't helpful either.

As proof, I have bank statements for the PC and your labour,
e-mails from IBM to you (where you act in the name of F/X),
Sam Detweiler (IBM) will witness this and people in this
thread have already said that they beta-tested F/X software,
with you deeply involved. With your heart problems, it's hard
to believe that you could handle a complete beta test in another
forum at the same time. I have CC's of all these e-mails (you
didn't understand why I wanted CC's at the time, now you
do:)

I take the liberty to bring the names of a few people
that you talked to: Kevin G. McCoy, Gerry Britton,
Timur Tabi, Peter Lindeman, George Yanos,
Benjamin Schollnick, Sam Detweiler and a guy named
Scott that worked with you almost daily (his e-mails
doesn't include his last name). There are more people,
and I'll gladly set up contacts to these people in case
LGS thinks I need to back this with proof.

>Note that the reasons for writing new drivers is pure
>technical and not related to F/X issue.

Right :) .. If you hadn't told us this, some might have
thought that the reason was to get free of the copyright
violation and then hope everyone would forget about your
business practices. Markets don't work that way Sergey
and the only way you and Vit can ever restore your reputation,
is by admitting that I brought you together (for a job
interview) and instead you plotted against me and became
overwhelmed by greed.

b) First announcement that was dropped was first PPPoE
> announcement

Anyone that's interested in the truth, simply e-mail
the Warpcast crew and get the real truth. This is
another lie from LGS that I can prove wrong.

>(And we all know that there is no software available for
> public yet).

Our PPPoE is available to all InJoy Firewall PRO customers,
but there is no evaluation version floating around yet.
That's simply to keep it out of your hands, as I think
you are not done stealing yet. This is another way you
hurt the OS/2 business.

These days you try to make an easy buck, by letting OS/2
customers pay for what's easily compiled from the GNU
open source resources. Personally, as a long time Internet,
Fido user, I'm discusted by these actions and hopefully
the entire Internet community will some day know you stand for.

F/X has always developed our own software, with the pros
and cons that gives, but it's a fair business and when we
e.g. ported the GNU Pluto IKE server to OS/2, then we offered
it for free to the OS/2 community.

--
Bjarne Jensen
F/X Communications
http://www.fx.dk



Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: brittonm@sympatico.ca                             28-Dec-99 20:09:26
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 19:59:14
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Britt <brittonm@sympatico.ca>

I would ask that everyone consider the following PERSONAL opinions,

1) Bjarne has spent years providing superb support for his users, no matter
how

small the user, or how large his problem. This has resulted in Bjarne/FX
acquiring a sound knowledge base of this technology. To the extent that now if
you have a problem the chances are FX can resolve it rapidly and accurately.

2) During his association with FX Sergi acquired this experience the easy way,
and got paid for doing it......
I am an engineer and it is standard practice to not use knowledge gained from
employment for 3 or more years, this includes working for a direct competitor.
This is usually legally binding, but it is also a moral obligation that Sergi
has ignored.

3) If FX persue a legal action it will cost money, which would probably result
in prices rising.. so the user ends up paying

4) The OS2 community has from inception, benefited from the cooperation of
individuals and organisations to produce solutions, which has resulted in many
excellent CHEAP solutions (Injoy, SIO, CM2.....) Sergi has jepodised this by
his actions, which I THINK is the first time such a situation has arisen.

5) The issue of debug code, which is normally dormant, shows the FX concern
with solving end user problems. They recognise, probably from past experience,
that unusal problems require more specific information than usual. I am all
for

the inclusion of debug code, if it helps the end user solve hard to define
problems.

6) Bjarne has earned the respect of the user community  the hard way, and I
personally consider it my obligation to support Bjarne. Consider the
ramifications if we, the users, do not support those organisations providing
us, the user, with the tools we need.

7) If Sergi/LGS are willing to found there organisation on borrowed
information, is it not possible that they will resort to similar actions in
the

future. What about the effects on GNU based software., it could lead to a
freeze on cooperative development, and that would be a disaster for the OS2
community.

Once a thief, always a thief.....

Go for it Bjarne... the support is out there

Britt





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From: luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be                  28-Dec-99 21:13:02
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 19:59:14
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: "Luc Van Bogaert" <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be>

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:06:54 +0100 (CET), Kim Haverblad wrote:

>Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop functions
>except for Object DeskTop?

Lots of shareware, freeware, but personally I prefer Deskman/2 from DevTech


Luc Van Bogaert

  Vice President  - Warpstock
    Visit www.warpstock.org for the most important OS/2 event of the year


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From: jhimmel@i-2000.com                                28-Dec-99 20:30:07
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 19:59:14
Subj: Re: BA/2 2000 problems

From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman)

CDS was aware of the problem, and was quick to send me towards the 
fix. My Adaptec 2940UW needed an IBM supplied .ADD file, not the one 
that comes from Adaptec.

I have now backed up several of my drives successfully with BA/2000.

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:34:23, "Steve Richards" 
<steve_antispam@aducredit.com> wrote: 
> It works for me from the GUI but does abend when looking for a second tape
from the command line. 
> I did have problems at first, like you are having so I reinstalled and
rebooted and then it worked fine.

> -->> Have not been able to complete a backup using the new BA/2 2000
> -->> workstation. Backup exits, closing all open BA/2 windows at some point
> -->> during the backup, or exits with a SYS3175 during backup. Anyone else?
> -->> 
> -->> Will be contacting CDS today.
> -->> 
> -->> [[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]]

[[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]]

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From: News@The-Net-4U.com                               28-Dec-99 08:42:12
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn)

> stan wrote:
>
> I've missed all this can someone pls provide a url for this isp

See that you are using ProNews. If you (or your ISP's newsserver)
missed something in the trhead you can easily "backtrack". Rightclick
in the message window and select "Explore thread". It will pop up your
webengine (provided you told it where to find the application you prefer
to surf the www with) with the thread on Deja showing in the window. 

Regards from Leeuwarden
Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
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From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua                                   28-Dec-99 18:01:12
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin)

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:59:19, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> wrote:

> ceo@lgs.kiev.ua wrote:
> >    NDIS spec's is complex enough and in many places they just
> > not clear
> >    or suspicious. Problem becomes even more complex when NDIS
> > driver is
> >    a protocol driver, because this part of spec in not
> > available.
> 
> So who did you steal the technology from this time?

I don't think the technology is stolen. I can describe at least one way (yet
it 
is hard) to build such a driver: Create a MAC and look at the calls existing 
Protocols issue to it. Make your protocol do the same. If you has problems, go 

to step 1.

> >    Unfortunately OS/2 MPTS do not support such a "Filters" and
> > so user can not
> >    configure the Driver using MPTS setup program. Probably some
> > kind of solution
> >    exists but not LGS nor F/X is aware about that solution.
> Oh but of course you had inside information about your competitor since
> you bought Sergey.

I think if they know about LGS. And since FX did not implement any solution,
it 
has no solution.

> >    Should be especially noted that knowledge about intermediate
> >    driver and their organization is not helpful anymore as soon
> > as we starting
> >    talking about protocol driver.
> So we are to feel sorry for you because stolen technlogy no longer feeds
> your fire?

I think you fill sorry, that this flame will end shortly ;). This passage is 
argumented at the same level your are.

> > 6) F/X released Injoy Connect. As far as we know this product
> > was in beta for
> >    few years and it is interesting to listen to a reason of
> > such an urgent
> >    release.
> Nice competitors upgrade prices you were offering for versions 1.0+ I
> think you knew where your competition was, you had Sergey didn't you?

Sorry?  As far as I know there is no competition upgrade prices for SafeFire
PPP
yet. As for SafeFire Firewall the prices are really good for end users. Don't 
understand your comment about Sergey. I don't think that FX hided prices for 
InJoy Firewall.

> More lies look at the purchase.app file generated in your own install
> from sfire.zip 3/5/1999. Give me a break how stupid can you be?

Why they are stupid? Because they have not raised their prices?

> > 7) Announce of PPPoE support and WarpCast silence. The
> > situation is very
> >    interesting. We will describe it here and it's up to you to
> > make
> >    decisions:
> We did, you stole the technlogy and we knew it. 

Sorry, are you representing WarpCast? If so, I don't know why all the LGS 
messages was unanswered. You could send at least a pack of flame. 

> Probably right there. It takes more time to develop than to steal.

Interesting. So you says that LGS stealed technology that was not developed?
It 
is logical nosence.

> > 9) This thread started by public answer of one of F/X users.
> How about the ad you posted in the comp.os.os2.apps news group,
> 12/22/1999 that has many times the replys?

This is single message and not tons of smap from FX users we can see now.

[HEADER skipped]
Sorry. Why did you need to post the whole header here?

> SafeFire PPP 0.9 beta 59
> 
> You are a liar and a thief.
Sorry? Why this posting makes LGS liar? I think that you has problems with
logic
in your mind.

> > As a result of F/X actions SafeFire Firewall is not available
> > for purchase
> > for some time. SafeFire Firewall is removed from downloads at
> > our site.

> Is this an admission of guilt?

This is fact.

> > Therefore we consider this issue is CLOSED from our side.
> > But new problem appears. Copyright status of that device driver
> > is not clear.
> 
> Then you did freaking lie in you ad. You stated that you did have the
> Copyright. Are you just stupid?

> SafeFire PPP with the new PM user interface IS the most simple
> way to the Internet.

Sorry. First you post an except regarding Safefire Firewall and then blames 
SafeFire PPP.

> > We see only way to resolve it in a fair manner: F/X should
> > write device driver
> > from scratch.
> They develped it to begin with why should they do it again. 

As far as I can see, they did not. Sergey did. And it is not clear who is
owning
rights: Sergey, FX or LGS.

> Also your
> advertisement in comp.os.os2.apps stated that you were copyrighted would
> you please tell me the patent numbers so I can verify it myself?

AFAIR Copyrighted and patented are different things. And again you are wrong.

Bye,
	Vit.

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From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua                                   28-Dec-99 17:27:14
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Re: The Zero Cost F/X Solution to LGS

From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin)

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 18:08:26, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> wrote:

> For those of you that don't know LGS is trying to sell SafeFire PPP a
> product that was developed with proprietary information gained from a
> developer once employed by F/X. We are not talking about concept code or
> code subject to poetic license, we are talking about actual theft of
> corporate property being re-sold.
I'd recommend You to either support Your words with some facts regarding 
SafeFire PPP or shut up.
For example, find a plugin management solution comparable to Safire PPP one in 

FX products. 

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               28-Dec-99 22:35:13
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Win 3.1 plugins

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi all!

I am getting grey hair over this !&#*%. Is there anybody out there who
has gotten Win 3.1 plugins to run with Communicator 4.61 or 4.04 with
the browser installed in a directory that's not at root level (mine is
in G:\Netz\NETS461)?
I've tried a lot of hints, but none worked.

TIA

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: esko.kauppinen@ibm.net                            28-Dec-99 22:17:28
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Re: printing

From: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>

On Tue, 28 Dec 99 12:27:25 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

>RE: Re: printing
>BY: "Esko Kauppinen" <esko.kauppinen@ibm.net>
>
>> Have you tried the EPOMNI driver which is for Stylus 600?
>> I use it with Stylus 640 and Warp4 and the photo printing is superb.
>> I have tried the OMNI and I didn't experience the problems you have
>> but the result was not so good as with EPOMNI.
>
>I don't think I've ever tried the epomni drivers.  Whats the current version?

  I seem to have version 30.544, I think it's the latest.
  You can find it from the same place as the OMNI driver.


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From: wadsack@ibm.net                                   28-Dec-99 17:16:17
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Re: Smartsuite 1.5 for OS/2

From: "Peter Wadsack" <wadsack@ibm.net>

By late afternoon today, I was told the ship date had slipped to mid-January, 
'because we found a problem we needed to correct before it went out', which 
is as it should be.

On 28 Dec 1999 17:34:16 GMT, Don Morse wrote:

:>  Tried to purchase the 1.5 upgrade this morning.  Support could not find 
it at
:>  first, then informed me it wouldn't be ready until 1st week of January. 

Peter

*/------------------------------------------------------
Peter Wadsack <wadsack@ibm.net>
Wadsack Management; Madison WI USA
------------------------------------------------------*/


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From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu                        28-Dec-99 18:27:16
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Re: Mesa2 Script Problem

From: bumby@lagrange.rutgers.edu (Richard Bumby)

"Jack Gillis" <jgil@widomaker.com> writes:

>...
>I've one other problem.  'Find' will find all the cells whose value I specify
>but the replace function doesn't want to replace them with the new value. 
>Have you had any experience with that?

I remember this problem in early versions of Mesa2.  Each new release
has made vast improvements, but I started using other approaches to
search-and-replace, so I wouldn't know if it is still broken.  



-- 
R. T. Bumby **  Rutgers Math || Amer. Math. Monthly Problems Editor 1992--1996
bumby@math.rutgers.edu       ||   
Telephone:    [USA] 732-445-0277 (full-time message line) FAX 732-445-5530

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From: rde@tavi.co.uk                                    28-Dec-99 23:40:12
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Re: Win 3.1 plugins

From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager)

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:35:27, Christian Hennecke 
<christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:

> I am getting grey hair over this !&#*%. Is there anybody out there who
> has gotten Win 3.1 plugins to run with Communicator 4.61 or 4.04 with
> the browser installed in a directory that's not at root level (mine is
> in G:\Netz\NETS461)?
> I've tried a lot of hints, but none worked.

Basically, no. As I understand it, that's a requirement. There are 
others, but reinstall and get that right first...

-- 
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: gstrazds@hololasertech.on.ca                      28-Dec-99 19:05:09
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Re: StarDraw vrs. CorelDraw5?

From: Glenn Strazds <gstrazds@hololasertech.on.ca>


Tarquelne wrote:

> Right now I'm using CorelDraw5 under WinOS/2, and I'm considering
> getting ahold of StarOffice, and running it under OS/2 and/or Linux.
>

Try it out ... it's free... You will have to learn how to use it..

>
> Question:  How well does StarDraw stack up against CorelDraw5?  Is
> StarDraw a "full featured" vector graphics program, or more of a "we
> wanted to say we had a draw program in the suite" sort of thing?
>
> Thanks,
>

I've been learning how to use it.. wanting the same kind of features
Corel draw has...

The layering feature or moving layers from front to back, forward are the
same...

Still exploring..  You do need 50-90-128 meg of ram to run it in a
blissful manner.

Sincerely Glenn Strazds

>
>                                             Tarquelne
>                                        <osric@apk.net>
>         I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
>                                   ************************
> Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
> ___________________________________________________________
> "People don't quit playing because they grow old.
> They grow old because they quit playing."
>  - Oliver Wendell Holmes

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From: yaztromo@idirect.com                              29-Dec-99 00:41:14
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:03
Subj: Re: 2GB file size limit

From: Brad Barclay <yaztromo@idirect.com>

Jules Gilbert wrote:

> Okay, what do I do?
>
> I have a Adobe .pdf file (representing almost 700 pages of a manual)
> which I want to print.
>
> I would like two-sided copy, printed in reverse order on a Z-51 from
> Lexmark.    I'd like two copies but I'm willing to run the print-job
> twice.
>
> I start the job, and of course wait while it 'prints' to an intermediate
> disk file.  But at page 624, this intermediate file first exceeds 2GB
> and the job aborts.  I CAN print the first 623 pages of this 688 page
> manual, but I can't print beyond that.

    Try disabling the print spooler subsystem - in System Setup, right click
on the spooler and disable it.

    This will print print jobs directly to the printer, byte by byte, and
won't use any disk space in the process.  It can be slower, and will
probably slow down your system during the printjob, but it should solve your
problem for this specific document.

Brad BARCLAY


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From: jmprice@calweb.com                                28-Dec-99 17:32:29
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 03:28:03
Subj: Re: pmview 2.0 scheduled for 2nd week?

From: John M Price PhD <jmprice@calweb.com>

In comp.os.os2.apps article <cphY4kDg6Bwa090yn@ibm.net> Dan Casey
<dcasey@ibm.net> wrote:

: PMView 2.0 uses a different registration process than the 1.x versions
: did. Your 1.x key will NOT work with 2.0. BMT also has the tool to
: handle the re-registration (free, of course, to existing 1.x users) to
: generate the new key for you.

Well, great.  Now, what if I can't find that one, single piece of email?

Then, same question for number 3, and 4, etc....



-- 
John M. Price, PhD                                     jmprice@calweb.com
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. 
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

Too much freedom in the mind is dangerous; it only leads to confusion and
makes people mean.
	- Laura Schlessinger, PhD (Exercise Physiology)
		10May1999

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From: heafnerj@interpath.com                            28-Dec-99 21:16:09
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 03:28:03
Subj: WarpUP vs. Software Choice???

From: "Joe Heafner" <heafnerj@interpath.com>

Hi.

Today I ordered the latest WarpUP CD-ROM from Indelible Blue. Will this
service continue to be available even after Software Choice goes commercial
as of 1 Jan? On the other hand, after two WarpUP CD's one will already have
spent nearly the yearly subscription fee to Software Choice. Has anyone
actually paid for the new SC service?

Thanks,
Joe

-----
Joe Heafner -- Astronomer
http://home.interpath.com/heafnerj


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From: nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com                     28-Dec-99 21:50:29
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 03:28:03
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "Nick Saxon" <nospam_n.saxon@mindspring.com>

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:31:16 -0500 (EST), Chris Stumpf wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 08:05:20 -0500 (EST), Nick Saxon wrote:
>
>:>On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 01:16:05 -0500 (EST), Chris Stumpf wrote:
>:>
>:>>Prosecution is next to impossible as LGS is in Russia and FX is not.  Even 
if
>:>>FX were to get LGS into court and won, the verdict would be impossible to
>:>>enforce with the way things are in Russia.
>:>
>:>No doubt, you knew the verdict? Well, then share your knowledge with the
>:>community,
>:>after all, this is what it's all about.
>:>
>Please note, I said "IF" FX were to get LGS into court and "IF" FX were to
>win.  Please read more carefully next time.

Thank you for the remark, I said "knew", not "know". For many, if not most,
readers the main concern is not the enforcement of a verdict,
but the verdict itself.

I don't like to be blamed by F/X just because another time I bought
a competing product.

>
>		Chris Stumpf
>		C.S.E. Computer Services
>		Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
>		Serenity Systems Channel Partner
>		IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4
>		
>
>web:    http://cse.anterras.net
>email:	cse@anterras.net
>phone: (732)496-4699
>

Nick Saxon



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From: sfactual@erols.com                                28-Dec-99 21:57:29
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 03:28:03
Subj: Re: OS2 USB and video camera

From: Jon Schuck <sfactual@erols.com>

Has anyone gotten OS2 to work with USB?

"William R. Estrada II" wrote:

> Hello,
>
>   Has anybody been able to get OS2 to work with a USB camera?  If so,
> which camera?
>
>                Thanks, Rick Estrada.

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From: sfactual@erols.com                                28-Dec-99 21:59:05
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 03:28:03
Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2

From: Jon Schuck <sfactual@erols.com>

Oops. Not PMView, I meant RSJ.

Jon Schuck wrote:

> I use exact hardware with CFTwain and PMView.  It rules.
>
> "A. Willard Reese" wrote:
>
> > I'm considering buying a Yamaha  6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with
> > an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11,
> > system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup?  How
> > about drivers for OS2?  What problems have been encountered, etc?  The
> > price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't
> > run in OS2.
> > Thanks for any help,
> > Willard

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From: tjerick@ibm.net                                   29-Dec-99 03:14:24
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 03:28:03
Subj: Re: WarpUP vs. Software Choice???

From: tjerick@ibm.net (Tim Erickson)

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 02:16:18, "Joe Heafner" <heafnerj@interpath.com> 
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Today I ordered the latest WarpUP CD-ROM from Indelible Blue. Will this
> service continue to be available even after Software Choice goes commercial
> as of 1 Jan? On the other hand, after two WarpUP CD's one will already have
> spent nearly the yearly subscription fee to Software Choice. Has anyone
> actually paid for the new SC service?

As of Wednesday I will be a subscriber. Nearly $400/tax in Canada but 
I look at it as a new upgrade in each of two years. Wait for it . . . 
the song, . . . its the Sirens of Redmond!

I don't want to stir up anything on usenet but I was told by two 
different people at IBM when I was inquiring about S.C. that as of 
2000 it would be folded into Passport Advantage and no longer 
availible in unit quantities. The minimum P.A. purchase is 10 points 
of which each OS/2 license is 2 points. Therefore purchase quantities 
would be a minimum of five OS/2 subscriptions. Since IBM has a record 
of supporting existing subscribers after a given subscription service 
ends it makes economic sense to me that I get the S.C. enrolement 
going now.

Of course I only have conversations of this topic to base the above on
and HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING IN WRITING about the above so take it with 
a bit of salt.

I have too much invested into OS/2 to walk away and if this is how IBM
wants to do business then I am willing to go along with them. They 
have provided me with a stable and enjoyable platform since 1994 and I
will respect their desire to change their marketing of the product and
revenue generation from OS/2. You, of course, will have to make your 
own decisions on the matter but for me this is what I will do.

Tim

I expect the bleating of the M$ cattle will get louder in the next few
weeks as cattle always do when they smell the charnel house, alas for 
them, too late!

----Me, Nov 1999

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From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net                 28-Dec-99 21:53:18
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 03:28:03
Subj: Re: SmartSuite 1.0 downloadable patches/upgrades?

From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net

In <3868DF4E.AB0A2A04@hal-pc.org>, on 12/28/99 
   at 10:03 AM, Marvin Volz <mtve@hal-pc.org> said:

>There are individual patches for 123, Approach, WP, etc on the Lotus
>site. Have to manually unzip and replace files.

The patches are for v1.1.  I'm sure someone will attempt to find out if
they work for v1.0. :)

Steven


--
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Steven Levine <steve53removethis@earthlink.net>  MR2/ICE 2.03 #10183
Warp4/FP11
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From: I.h8.spam@dont.send.any                           29-Dec-99 08:30:17
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 05:08:06
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: "Kim Haverblad" <I.h8.spam@dont.send.any>

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:13:05 +0100 (CET), Luc Van Bogaert wrote:

>Lots of shareware, freeware, but personally I prefer Deskman/2 from DevTech

There is no demo available of DeskMan and no screen shoots either. Would it
be possible for you to sent me a couple of shoots of DeskMan in action? Ship
to kim@haverblad.com. Currently I find Program Commander and FileBar to be
rather good substitute for Object Desktops virtual desk. But, not god
enought. Other function that can replace OD is X-File, X-it and X-Folder.
X-Folder as I understand soon to be replaced with X-Workplace. Sounds great.
Problem with OD is that it give more pain that it solves problem..... and
since Stardock are leaving the os2 marked, makes it easier to start replacing
OD.

//Kim


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From: cwr@cts.com                                       29-Dec-99 10:04:15
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 10:21:28
Subj: Re: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: Will Rose <cwr@cts.com>

judithr@primenet.com wrote:

: On 27 Dec 1999 10:18:37 GMT, Will Rose wrote:


: FWIW, mine works.  Warp4, FP12. -- or the spellcheck works, and I
: assume that uses the dictionary. If you saved the old dll folder
: someplace, replace the new etke603.dll  with the old one and the
: toolbar buffet will work again also.   Fixpaks always break that.  

:>If anyone's found a solution I'd like to know it; I used EPM's
:>dictionary quite a bit, and if it won't work with FP 12 I'll
:>have to drop back (to FP 9?).


Something very odd is going on, because the toolbar's always worked
for me.  I'll dig a bit deeper, and see if I can find some backlevel
etke*.dlls.  Thanks for the ideas.


will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com                           28-Dec-99 23:00:22
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 10:21:28
Subj: Re: Win 3.1 plugins

From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw)

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:35:27, Christian Hennecke 
<christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
> I am getting grey hair over this !&#*%. Is there anybody out there who
> has gotten Win 3.1 plugins to run with Communicator 4.61 or 4.04 with
> the browser installed in a directory that's not at root level (mine is
> in G:\Netz\NETS461)?
> I've tried a lot of hints, but none worked.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Christian Hennecke
> -- 
> Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

Christian, AFAIK the plugins will not work if Netscape 4.61 is not 
installed at root level.  I saw this somewhere, quite awhile ago, in a
posting that came from one of the IBM developers. 

George

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From: nospam                                            29-Dec-99 22:51:08
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 10:21:28
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 video corruption w/ TP770 + OS/2

From: glenn@<nospam>senet.com.au (Glenn Thompson)

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:51:06, kylemw <kylemw@omnisig.com> wrote:

Hi Kyle,
-> 
-> 	I do believe that your friend has bumped into 
-> a known problem, mentioned here recently, but no
-> longer an active thread.

Thanks for the info, I'll pass it on.

regards/2
Glenn.

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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            29-Dec-99 12:30:29
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 10:21:28
Subj: NSComm 4.61 Expand/Collapse message threads?

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

When I am viewing Newscroup messages "by thread" (i.e., with the message
hierarchy visible), I cannot find a way of expanding or collapsing the
view except by clicking on the +/- symbols for each thresd individually.
I cannot find an option to collapse all threads in a specific Newsgroup
or to set that as a default for all Newsgroups. Yet some Newsgroups
appear with all threads collapsed anyway.

What am I missing here?

Alan

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From: Markus.Quandt@gmx.net                             29-Dec-99 13:41:06
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 10:21:28
Subj: Re: NSComm 4.61 Expand/Collapse message threads?

From: Markus Quandt <Markus.Quandt@gmx.net>

Hi,

don't know how to expand/collapse all threads at once, but you can use
the keyboard instead of the mouse - the right arrow will expand a
thread, the left arrow will collapse it (when the topmost entry is
marked). Of course, the pane showing the message headers has to be the
active one, i.e. you have a blue, grey or whatever 'bar' showing which
message is currently selected. You can move between panes with the TAB
key. In fact, Collabra can be navigated and used by keyboard rather
completely, at least for the more common functions. E.g. SPACE will
downwards in the current message or skip to the next unread message if
you are at the bottom of the current one, like 'real' newsreaders
behave.

Happy new year, MQ


Alan Beagley schrieb:
> 
> When I am viewing Newscroup messages "by thread" (i.e., with the message
> hierarchy visible), I cannot find a way of expanding or collapsing the
> view except by clicking on the +/- symbols for each thresd individually.
> I cannot find an option to collapse all threads in a specific Newsgroup
> or to set that as a default for all Newsgroups. Yet some Newsgroups
> appear with all threads collapsed anyway.
> 
> What am I missing here?
> 
> Alan

-- 
__________________________________________________________________
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  Institut f. Angewandte Sozialforschung der Universitaet zu Koeln
  Greinstr. 2     50939 Koeln
  Tel. +49-221/470-4232                      Fax. +49-221/470-5169
  Find my PGP public key and other information here:
http://www.uni-koeln.de/wiso-fak/ifas/html/personal/homepage/quandt-markus/inde
x.html

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From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp                          29-Dec-99 18:45:23
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 10:21:28
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: "Wayne Bickell" <wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp>

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:30:34 +0100 (CET), Kim Haverblad wrote:

:>There is no demo available of DeskMan and no screen shoots either. Would it
:>be possible for you to sent me a couple of shoots of DeskMan in action? Ship
:>to kim@haverblad.com. Currently I find Program Commander and FileBar to be
:>rather good substitute for Object Desktops virtual desk. But, not god
:>enought. Other function that can replace OD is X-File, X-it and X-Folder.
:>X-Folder as I understand soon to be replaced with X-Workplace. Sounds great.
:>Problem with OD is that it give more pain that it solves problem..... and
:>since Stardock are leaving the os2 marked, makes it easier to start
replacing
:>OD.

If I remember rightly, there was a demo of Deskman on the Sampler CD
with Warp 4.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: sachmo@horn.net                                   29-Dec-99 13:17:21
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 14:23:17
Subj: Re: WIN-OS/2 and Corel Word Perfect

From: sachmo@horn.net

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:03:34, maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff) 
wrote:

> I have WP Win 7 loaded on my G: partiton.  I don't believe there's 
> anything left on c: related to it.  If anyone knows of a way for it to
> see long file names, I'd love to hear it.  Other than its inability to
> recognize long file names, I'd think that WPWIN 7 was a native OS/2 
> program because it works so well.

Questions: What are your OS/2 notebook settings for WP? How did you 
set it up? How do you cope with, if any, GPFs of which I get a slew? 

Comment: Might check under "OS/2 -->MDOS-->WIN-OS/2 (or wherever you 
have it) for "root C:\". That just happens to be my pathing.

Thanks
Gene
pequod@salisbury.net
---------------
The minstrel boy to the war is gone
In the ranks of death you'll find him;
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard;
Words shall never sound in slavery!
   --Thomas Moore (1779-1852)

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From: acogbill@geopotential.com                         29-Dec-99 06:34:05
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 14:23:17
Subj: Re: 2GB file size limit

From: "Allen Cogbill" <acogbill@geopotential.com>

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:41:28 GMT, Brad Barclay wrote:

>Jules Gilbert wrote:
>
>> Okay, what do I do?
>>
>> I have a Adobe .pdf file (representing almost 700 pages of a manual)
>> which I want to print.
>>
>> I would like two-sided copy, printed in reverse order on a Z-51 from
>> Lexmark.    I'd like two copies but I'm willing to run the print-job
>> twice.
>>
>> I start the job, and of course wait while it 'prints' to an intermediate
>> disk file.  But at page 624, this intermediate file first exceeds 2GB
>> and the job aborts.  I CAN print the first 623 pages of this 688 page
>> manual, but I can't print beyond that.

Well, have you tried printing the document in parts? That is, print pages
1-500 (say), then after that has finished, print the remainder?

Allen Cogbill



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From: davek@clark.net                                   29-Dec-99 13:47:20
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 14:23:17
Subj: Re: pmview 2.0 scheduled for 2nd week?

From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz)

John M Price PhD (jmprice@calweb.com) wrote:                          

: In comp.os.os2.apps article <cphY4kDg6Bwa090yn@ibm.net> Dan Casey 
:<dcasey@ibm.net> wrote:                                              

: : PMView 2.0 uses a different registration process than the 1.x 
: : versions did. Your 1.x key will NOT work with 2.0. BMT also has 
: : the tool to handle the re-registration (free, of course, to 
: : existing 1.x users) to generate the new key for you.              

: Well, great.  Now, what if I can't find that one, single piece of 
: email?                                                              

BMT Micro keeps records of registrations and says they will provide
the keys back to you if you lose them.  They did this once for me a
long time back.  So, assuming that you originally registered through
them, they can probably help.

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua                                   29-Dec-99 13:46:09
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 14:23:17
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin)

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:46:53, Bjarne Jensen <bj@fx.dk> wrote:

> 
> > 1) We ordered NDIS driver to Sergey (I don't know why BJ tries
> > to set an equality between Sergey with LGS.
> 
> Dear faceless LGS CEO. I'm quite honoured to see you visit
> the OS/2 community for the first time ever. After working
> with Sergey for 8 months, I must say you sound a lot like
> him :)

As far as I can see, LGS were right - You are continuing your tactics since
this
is the only one available for You.
I am almost sure that You already hired personal linguist to check this ;) Or 
may be you has linguist dimploma? Otherwise this your words are "for public" 
here and not truth.

> 
> If Sergey isn't LGS, then why did Sergey negotiate with GT
> Mall about the selling of the Safefire Firewall (and lost)?
> A little odd to let an outsider negotiate something that
> important.

I think that since only Sergey knew all the facts he was the only who could
try 
to make argumented negotiations.

> 
> I just finished a private e-mail conversation with Sergey,
> this is why LGS and F/X didn't participate in this thread
> for a while. These e-mails came to me from "Sergey I.
> Yevtushenko" and I was smart enough to BCC: our conversation
> to third parties, so again, I have proof.

What proofs? That when you made negotiations with Sergey you had mail come
from 
Sergey? Is it have to be proven?

> 
> The few people that have worked with LGS, have always
> wondered why you appear face-less in the public and
> don't sign the e-mails in your own name. Vit is the
> exception to this rule obviously, probably too young to
> understand the harm he is inflicting to his own name.

I inflict no harm to my name. I started my investigations of OS/2 TCPIP 
internals far before Injoy firewall were released (see my page about OS/2
tcpip 
4.1 firewall). And I don't like you personally since I have seen many of your 
actions.
When I am telling something from the name of the company, I use lgs.kiev.ua 
e-mail, since it is policy of the company : "today you are talking with one
CEO,
support, devppp, devdir, etc... tomorrow with another. There must be no 
problems.". May be I am slighly temperamented, so I can appear here with my
own 
answer to all this spam.

> 
> Also, I find it wierd that on this rather big planet,
> after F/X hires Sergey, a business only a few IP numbers
> away from Sergey, in the same city, get the notion to
> enter the OS/2 market and by coincidence, they choose
> to develop exactly the same driver as an F/X employee is
> working on. Coincidence?

Sorry? LGS hired local OS/2 programmer to make software. I think this is
normal 
actions. And the fact that FX hired the same programmer while he is half world 

away from FX is coincidence, is not it?

> 
> Considering the fact that LGS was never known before in
> the OS/2 community and then suddenly pops up a week
> after the release of our software, with an F/X driver
> that they bought from the always innocent Sergey I.
> Yevtushenko is just too much of a lie for anyone to
> believe. 
> Theoretically it could be, but anyone with
> common sense is witnessings the worst OS/2 scam ever!

So you would like to say that all the other parts of SafeFire Firewall were 
written in a single week? Even theoretically it can't be ;) 

> 
> >Should be especially noted that knowledge about
> >intermediate driver and their organization is not
> >helpful anymore
> 
> Knowledge isn't helpful anymore :)
> 
> So you finally begin to admit the truth?

Sure, LGS used the software it ordered and got working. But the software had 
limited functionality and so was replaced. Any problems? I still don't get
what 
you were going to say.

> 
> I bet the thousands of $$, the NDIS toolkit that earlier
> wasn't generally available to the public (was made public
> this week by IBM), the PC that you couldn't afford, 

LGS did not have any problems with computers. Still don't get what are you 
pointing at.

> our docs, 

I have checked this (in other news thread). Could you point to the "stealed" 
docs? I have not found anything.

> our beta testing of the technology 

LGS had there own beta testing. Or you contacted with LGS to help with beta 
testing? I still don't understand you.

> and the rest of
> our technology wasn't helpful either.

Sorry? As far as I know LGS got the driver. The sample of such a driver is in 
the NDIS toolkit. What "technology" you are talking about?

> 
> As proof, I have bank statements for the PC and your labour,
[SKIPPED]

Oh. This is an aswer to Sergey. Now I am starting to understand your tactics. 

> and the only way you and Vit can ever restore your reputation,
> is by admitting that I brought you together (for a job
> interview) and instead you plotted against me and became
> overwhelmed by greed.
That is not truth. I had two messages from you and there was a single answer 
(see below). I already knew who you are and did not want to work for such a 
person:
-----------message-----
Message-Id: <199903230400.1129592.6@fx.dk>
From: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
To: "tvv@sbs.kiev.ua" <tvv@sbs.kiev.ua>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:58:50 +0100 (CET)
Reply-To: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: =?koi8-r?q?Programming on OS/2..?=
Status: U

Hi

I'm looking for new and skilled OS/2 developers.. I like your product
and I'm interested in hearing how much you would require (in $$ per
month) to work F/X Communications???

I know you have talked to sergey about this before, but I'm in a new
position and ready to pay more money than Sergey told you.

I'll be going to Italy in a few days and stay there for a week, so
my replies might be a bit slow (even though I should have Internet
access down there).


-- Bjarne Jensen
President, F/X Communications.
http://www.fx.dk - Email: bj@fx.dk
-------------------------------------
---------my answer--------------------
From: "Vit Timchishin" <tvv@sbs.kiev.ua>
To: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:49:48 +0200 (EET)
Reply-To: "Vit Timchishin" <tvv@sbs.kiev.ua>
Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00
In-Reply-To: <199903230400.1129592.6@fx.dk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: Programming on OS/2..

On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:58:50 +0100 (CET), F/X Communications wrote:

>Hi
>
>I'm looking for new and skilled OS/2 developers.. I like your product
>and I'm interested in hearing how much you would require (in $$ per
>month) to work F/X Communications???
>
>I know you have talked to sergey about this before, but I'm in a new
>position and ready to pay more money than Sergey told you.
>
>I'll be going to Italy in a few days and stay there for a week, so
>my replies might be a bit slow (even though I should have Internet
>access down there).

Hello.

I am sorry to disappoint you but I can't accept your proposition now. I
already 
have an agreement with 
other company, and I like it.
---------------------------------------------
--------your answer------------
Message-Id: <199903241507.5233322.6@fx.dk>
From: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
To: "Vit Timchishin" <tvv@sbs.kiev.ua>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:06:30 +0100 (CET)
Reply-To: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00
In-Reply-To: <AAssE-smI1i@sbs.kiev.ua>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: =?koi8-r?q?Re: Programming on OS/2..?=
Status: U

That's quite okay..
Good luck with your work..

>I am sorry to disappoint you but I can't accept your proposition now. I
already
have an agreement 
with 
>other company, and I like it.
>
>

-- Bjarne Jensen
President, F/X Communications.
http://www.fx.dk - Email: bj@fx.dk

--------------------------------------
> 
> b) First announcement that was dropped was first PPPoE
> > announcement
> 
> Anyone that's interested in the truth, simply e-mail
> the Warpcast crew and get the real truth. This is
> another lie from LGS that I can prove wrong.

Why e-mail if everything can be checked using WWW:
Last message from LGS being published:
----http://www.os2ss.com/warpcast/wc4365.html---
WarpCast: 2 November 1999 - 0.9.55 beta of SafeFire PPP is available 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
FX's advertisement:
-----http://www.os2ss.com/warpcast/wc4464.html-----
WarpCast: 19 November 1999 - PPPoE for OS/2 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date of 57 beta of SafeFire PPP release is November 18, 1999. 
This can be checked by announcement in the newsgroups (here is www.deja.com
URL:
"http://www.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=550433286")

> 
> These days you try to make an easy buck, by letting OS/2
> customers pay for what's easily compiled from the GNU
> open source resources. Personally, as a long time Internet,
> Fido user, I'm discusted by these actions and hopefully
> the entire Internet community will some day know you stand for.
> 
> F/X has always developed our own software, with the pros
> and cons that gives, but it's a fair business and when we
> e.g. ported the GNU Pluto IKE server to OS/2, then we offered
> it for free to the OS/2 community.

It is interesting. Because this is not truth. There is no line of GPL software 

in SafeFire products.
Can you give us any facts concerning this Your lie?

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From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com               29-Dec-99 15:04:29
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 14:23:17
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com (Paul Saletan)

This sounds like a great deal at $11.95 per month, but the support at
the moment seems shaky.  Maybe not enough employees on board as they
ramp up and they're outsourcing.  When I called up to inquire about
setting up account I was told that there are problems with the web
page pre-registration procedure so they suggested taking my
application over the phone.  After getting my credit card info, the
representative had to put me on hold several times to ask someone else
what the SMTP and POP3 server names were and had no idea what the DNS
numbers were (she first told me they were "server assigned").  It was
suggested that I call back and speak to tech support.  However,
there's a recording if you call evenings or nights that says support
is open 9-5 Pacific time, even though their web pages advertise 24/7
support availability.



// Paul Saletan  ** Please remove NOJUNKMAIL from address when replying

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From: ralvy@compuserve.com                              29-Dec-99 07:26:28
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 14:23:18
Subj: Re: WIN-OS/2 and Corel Word Perfect

From: "Ralph Alvy" <ralvy@compuserve.com>

On 29 Dec 1999 13:17:43 GMT, sachmo@horn.net wrote:

>Comment: Might check under "OS/2 -->MDOS-->WIN-OS/2 (or wherever you 
>have it) for "root C:\". That just happens to be my pathing.
>
>Thanks
>Gene
>pequod@salisbury.net

WPCorp's original recommendations, followed by mine ...

Here are the WPCorp suggested settings for WPWin 6.1, in
alphabetical order:

  DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION = On
  DPMI_DOS_API = ENABLED
  DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT = 128
  DOS_FILES = 100
  DOS_HIGH = On
  IDLE_SECONDS = 5
  IDLE_SENSITIVITY = 95
  KBD_ALTHOME_BYPASS = On
  VIDEO_8514A_XGA_IOTRAP = Off
  VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION = On
  WIN_CLIPBOARD = On
  WIN_DDE = On
  WIN_RUN_MODE = 3.1 Enh
  XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT = 6144+

Here are my suggestions, in alphabetical order:

  DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION = On
  DPMI_DOS_API = ENABLED
  DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT = 5        <== different
  DOS_FILES = 100
  DOS_HIGH = On
  DOS_UMB = On       <== unless you get Trap 000e or GPFs
  EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT = 0        <== no recommendation given by
WPCorp
  IDLE_SECONDS = 5
  IDLE_SENSITIVITY = 95
  KBD_ALTHOME_BYPASS = On
  VIDEO_8514A_XGA_IOTRAP = Off
  VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION = On
  WIN_ATM = On       <== no recommendation given by WPCorp
                                           (doesn't apply to
OS/2 2.x users)
  WIN_CLIPBOARD = On
  WIN_DDE = On
  WIN_RUN_MODE = 3.1 Enh
  XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT = 64       <== different

  If you run into trouble, increase DPMI to 8. If still in
trouble, increase
  it in increments of 8.

  Increase XMS or EMS only if you have Windows applications that
need it
  (very rare). WPWin doesn't use it at all.

  XMS of 64 allows DOS=HIGH. DOS=HIGH is there to accomodate any
TSRs you
  may be loading in your AUTOEXEC.BAT.


---
Ralph Alvy
ralvy@compuserve.com


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From: OS2Guy@WarpCity.com                               29-Dec-99 08:32:05
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 14:23:18
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>

Paul Saletan wrote:

> This sounds like a great deal at $11.95 per month, but the support at
> the moment seems shaky.  Maybe not enough employees on board as they
> ramp up and they're outsourcing.  When I called up to inquire about
> setting up account I was told that there are problems with the web
> page pre-registration procedure so they suggested taking my
> application over the phone.  After getting my credit card info, the
> representative had to put me on hold several times to ask someone else
> what the SMTP and POP3 server names were and had no idea what the DNS
> numbers were (she first told me they were "server assigned").  It was
> suggested that I call back and speak to tech support.  However,
> there's a recording if you call evenings or nights that says support
> is open 9-5 Pacific time, even though their web pages advertise 24/7
> support availability.
>
> // Paul Saletan  ** Please remove NOJUNKMAIL from address when replying

Actual service doesn't begin (I believe) until January 3rd
so you may be a little early.  I do know this new OS/2 ISP
has been swamped with signups and I would assume people
don't sign up for such things blindly.  There were so
many signups that a press release was issued within days
of the initial announcement saying the service would also
offer newsgroup access, a feature that was not originally
offered.

Nationwide dialup, local dialups, $12 bucks a month for
unlimited 56k access and all specifically aimed at OS/2
users.   And I also believe they are working on offering
low-cost DSL accounts 'down the road'.

If you're a 'good shopper' then finding a good deal is
always worth a little extra effort.  This is a deal well
worth the extra OS2 effort.

Tim Martin
The OS/2 Guy
Warp City (http://warpcity.com)
"Y2K NEW Member Discounts End 12/31!"


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From: bj@fx.dk                                          29-Dec-99 18:08:03
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 00:54:07
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Bjarne Jensen <bj@fx.dk>

> I am almost sure that You already hired personal linguist
>to check this ;)

Come on. It doesn't take a linguist to see through the
faceless LGS titles. Looking through your scam is how
F/X got out of this to begin with, cause Sergey never
admitted doing anything (until just recently).

> I think that since only Sergey knew all the facts he was
> the only who could try to make argumented negotiations.

So, LGS hire the criminal Sergey again to negotiate for
LGS in the best possible way and yet you loose. Knowing
that Sergey is corrupt and then seeing that he takes your
side tells that you are both corrupt and in this together.

> What proofs? That when you made negotiations with Sergey
> you had mail come from Sergey? Is it have to be proven?

Proof to show that while I talked to Sergey, LGS
didn't make any posts here, but as soon as Sergey and I
stop, LGS becomes active in this thread again. If Sergey
is not LGS, then this is another very odd coincidence.

>May be I am slighly temperamented, so I can appear here
>with my own answer to all this spam.

You must be temperamented all of the time then, cause
unlike Sergey, you constantly use your own name when
speaking for LGS. Anyone in doubt can just search deja
news and see for themselves.

> Sorry? LGS hired local OS/2 programmer to make software.
> I think this is normal actions. And the fact that FX
> hired the same programmer while he is half world
> away from FX is coincidence, is not it?

I have worked with Sergey before and have some of his
old works to prove it, but LGS pops out from nowhere and
technology F/X have paid for. You can't expect anyone
to buy that.

> SafeFire Firewall were written in a single week? Even
> theoretically it can't be ;)

No, what I said was that when I brought Sergey together
with you for the possibility of hiring you, then you
instead got the idea to use the driver that I paid to
have developed in a competing product.

> But the software had limited functionality and so was

If it had limited functionality then it's even more
odd that you ordered exactly the same thing as F/X
ordered. Remember, Sergey was not just ordered to do
this for me, he worked (daily) with me (and with IBM)
to solve the problems. Sergey was online with F/X
and even working together with another employee.
An employee that will confirm this.

> LGS did not have any problems with computers. Still don't
> get what are you pointing at.

I have an invoice for the computer that this driver was
developed on.

> Sorry? As far as I know LGS got the driver. The sample
> of such a driver is in the NDIS toolkit. What
> "technology" you are talking about?

Where did you get the NDIS toolkit? It hasn't been public
and if you got it from IBM, then let's hear who gave it
to you?

> That is not truth. I had two messages from
> you and there was a single answer (see below).
> I already knew who you are and did not want
> to work for such a person:

But the below e-mail proves that I brought you together
and that I talked to you through Sergey. In the e-mail
you claim to have a job in another company, but the
next thing is that you work for LGS and have ordered
the same thing from Sergey. You knew Sergey worked
for me, already then, and can't act surprised that the
driver belongs to F/X.

How stupid do you think your audience is?


> -----------message-----
> Message-Id: <199903230400.1129592.6@fx.dk>
> From: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
> To: "tvv@sbs.kiev.ua" <tvv@sbs.kiev.ua>
> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:58:50 +0100 (CET)
> Reply-To: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
> Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Subject: =?koi8-r?q?Programming on OS/2..?=
> Status: U
>
> Hi
>
> I'm looking for new and skilled OS/2 developers.. I like your product
> and I'm interested in hearing how much you would require (in $$ per
> month) to work F/X Communications???
>
> I know you have talked to sergey about this before, but I'm in a new
> position and ready to pay more money than Sergey told you.
>
> I'll be going to Italy in a few days and stay there for a week, so
> my replies might be a bit slow (even though I should have Internet
> access down there).
>
> -- Bjarne Jensen
> President, F/X Communications.
> http://www.fx.dk - Email: bj@fx.dk
> -------------------------------------
> ---------my answer--------------------
> From: "Vit Timchishin" <tvv@sbs.kiev.ua>
> To: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:49:48 +0200 (EET)
> Reply-To: "Vit Timchishin" <tvv@sbs.kiev.ua>
> Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00
> In-Reply-To: <199903230400.1129592.6@fx.dk>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Subject: Re: Programming on OS/2..
>
> On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:58:50 +0100 (CET), F/X Communications wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >I'm looking for new and skilled OS/2 developers.. I like your
product
> >and I'm interested in hearing how much you would require (in $$ per
> >month) to work F/X Communications???
> >
> >I know you have talked to sergey about this before, but I'm in a new
> >position and ready to pay more money than Sergey told you.
> >
> >I'll be going to Italy in a few days and stay there for a week, so
> >my replies might be a bit slow (even though I should have Internet
> >access down there).
>
> Hello.
>
> I am sorry to disappoint you but I can't accept your proposition now.
I already
> have an agreement with
> other company, and I like it.
> ---------------------------------------------
> --------your answer------------
> Message-Id: <199903241507.5233322.6@fx.dk>
> From: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
> To: "Vit Timchishin" <tvv@sbs.kiev.ua>
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:06:30 +0100 (CET)
> Reply-To: "F/X Communications" <bj@fx.dk>
> Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00
> In-Reply-To: <AAssE-smI1i@sbs.kiev.ua>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Subject: =?koi8-r?q?Re: Programming on OS/2..?=
> Status: U
>
> That's quite okay..
> Good luck with your work..
>
> >I am sorry to disappoint you but I can't accept your proposition
now. I already
> have an agreement
> with
> >other company, and I like it.

--
Bjarne Jensen
F/X Communications
http://www.fx.dk


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From: bj@fx.dk                                          29-Dec-99 18:10:21
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 00:54:07
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Bjarne Jensen <bj@fx.dk>

And regarding Warpcast, then I have an e-mail apology
from them where they state that they are sorry that one
of your e-mails got through. One of the moderators didn't
know that you were pirates.

This was LONG BEFORE PPPoE and again I have proof.

Anyone can check this with the Warpcast crew.

Will this shut you up?


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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    29-Dec-99 23:52:00
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 00:54:07
Subj: CDrecord/2 and Audio-CD-Creator

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

I'm having trouble getting CDRecord/2 with the Audio-CD-Creator to work.

CDRecord reports accurately the drive info:

cdrecord dev=0,3,0 -inq
Cdrecord release 1.8a31 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jrg Schilling
scsidev: '0,3,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 3 lun: 0
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC
Vendor_info    : 'YAMAHA  '
Identifikation : 'CRW6416S        '
Revision       : '1.0b'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.

Audio-CD-Creator is set with the parameters -dummy -speed=4  dev=0,3,0 

When started, it seems to go through the motions for the first track (out 
of 10), then aborts with two vio sessions, both owned by CDRecord. I copy
below the content of those two windows, as well as the entire log file.

Any idea what goes wrong?

Pierre

============================================================
argc:4
0: D:\UTILITIES\MUSIC\CDRECORD\writeaud.exe
1: -2147482897
2: D:\UTILITIES\MUSIC\CDRECORD\cdrecord.exe
3: F:\WAV\Bonnie\Audio-CD-Creator

Process terminated by SIGSEGV
============================================================
Process terminated by SIGTERM
D:\UTILITIES\MUSIC\CDRECORD\cdrecord.exe: fifo had 580 puts and 580 gets.
D:\UTILITIES\MUSIC\CDRECORD\cdrecord.exe: fifo was 0 times empty and 492
times full, min fill was 87%.
Track 01: audio  35 MB (03:28.77) no preemp
Total size:      35 MB (03:28.77) = 15658 sectors
Lout start:      35 MB (03:30/58) = 15658 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 5
  Reference speed: 2
  Is not unrestricted
  Is erasable
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11239 (97:32/11)
  ATIP start of lead out: 335100 (74:30/00)
  speed low: 0 speed high: 4
  power mult factor: 4 5
  recommended erase/write power: 3
  A2 values: 5A C8 06
Disk type: phase change
Manuf. index: 27
Manufacturer: Prodisc Technology Inc.
Blocks total: 335100 Blocks current: 335100 Blocks remaining: 319442
Exiting...
============================================================


==================== Log File ==================================
******************************************
Starting CDRecord/2 with the following parameters:
D:\UTILITIES\MUSIC\CDRECORD\cdrecord.exe -dummy -speed=4  dev=0,3,0
-audio -dummy -pad -nofix -v
"F:\WAV\Bonnie\Audio-CD-Creator\Bonnie-Atlas_Threw_Down.wav"
Cdrecord release 1.8a31 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jrg Schilling
TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA
scsidev: '0,3,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 3 lun: 0
atapi: 0
Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
Version        : 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC 
Vendor_info    : 'YAMAHA  '
Identifikation : 'CRW6416S        '
Revision       : '1.0b'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
Drive buf size : 1566432 = 1529 KB
FIFO size      : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: audio  35 MB (03:28.77) no preemp
Total size:      35 MB (03:28.77) = 15658 sectors
Lout start:      35 MB (03:30/58) = 15658 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 5
  Reference speed: 2
  Is not unrestricted
  Is erasable
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11239 (97:32/11)
  ATIP start of lead out: 335100 (74:30/00)
  speed low: 0 speed high: 4
  power mult factor: 4 5
  recommended erase/write power: 3
  A2 values: 5A C8 06
Disk type: phase change
Manuf. index: 27
Manufacturer: Prodisc Technology Inc.
Blocks total: 335100 Blocks current: 335100 Blocks remaining: 319442
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in dummy mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting dummy write in 9 seconds.
8 seconds.
7 seconds.
6 seconds.
5 seconds.
4 seconds.
3 seconds.
2 seconds.
1 seconds.
Waiting for reader process to fill input-buffer ... input-buffer ready.
Starting new track at sector: 0

Track 01:   0 of  35 MB written.
Track 01:   1 of  35 MB written (fifo  90%).
Track 01:   2 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   3 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   4 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   5 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   6 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   7 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   8 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:   9 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  10 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  11 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  12 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  13 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  14 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  15 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  16 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  17 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  18 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  19 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  20 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  21 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  22 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  23 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  24 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  25 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  26 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  27 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  28 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  29 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  30 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  31 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  32 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  33 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  34 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01:  35 of  35 MB written (fifo 100%).
Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 36827616/36827616 (15658 sectors).
Writing  time:   58.960s
Track 01: audio  35 MB (03:28.77) no preemp
Total size:      35 MB (03:28.77) = 15658 sectors
Lout start:      35 MB (03:30/58) = 15658 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
ATIP info from disk:
  Indicated writing power: 5
  Reference speed: 2
  Is not unrestricted
  Is erasable
  ATIP start of lead in:  -11239 (97:32/11)
  ATIP start of lead out: 335100 (74:30/00)
  speed low: 0 speed high: 4
  power mult factor: 4 5
  recommended erase/write power: 3
  A2 values: 5A C8 06
Disk type: phase change
Manuf. index: 27
Manufacturer: Prodisc Technology Inc.
Blocks total: 335100 Blocks current: 335100 Blocks remaining: 319442
Returncode from CDRecord/2 is: 0
******************************************
===================== End of log file ==============================
-- 
Pierre Jelenc                |  Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com
                             | www.mp3.com/cucumbers  www.mp3.com/pawnshop
The New York City Beer Guide |      www.cdbaby.com/buy/rawkinder.htm
   http://www.nycbeer.org    |         www.mp3.com/jeniferjackson

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     30-Dec-99 00:05:27
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 00:54:07
Subj: Re: The Zero Cost F/X Solution to LGS

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Or what? You're going to turn me over your knee?

Vit Timchishin wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 18:08:26, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> wrote:
>
> > For those of you that don't know LGS is trying to sell SafeFire PPP a
> > product that was developed with proprietary information gained from a
> > developer once employed by F/X. We are not talking about concept code or
> > code subject to poetic license, we are talking about actual theft of
> > corporate property being re-sold.
> I'd recommend You to either support Your words with some facts regarding
> SafeFire PPP or shut up.
> For example, find a plugin management solution comparable to Safire PPP one
in
> FX products.

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     30-Dec-99 00:04:12
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 00:54:07
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Here is another unpleasant discussion with LGS.

Vit Timchishin wrote:

>
> > >    Unfortunately OS/2 MPTS do not support such a "Filters" and
> > > so user can not
> > >    configure the Driver using MPTS setup program. Probably some
> > > kind of solution
> > >    exists but not LGS nor F/X is aware about that solution.
> > Oh but of course you had inside information about your competitor since
> > you bought Sergey.
>
> I think if they know about LGS. And since FX did not implement any solution, 
it
> has no solution.
>

Are you trying to say that if FX didn't have the technology than neither does
LGS?
Does this mean that you are admitting that Sergey stole the technology and now 
you
are admitting it? Wow? Either you don't understand the gravity what you are
saying
or I am not understanding your view of your technology or something??

>
> > >    Should be especially noted that knowledge about intermediate
> > >    driver and their organization is not helpful anymore as soon
> > > as we starting
> > >    talking about protocol driver.
> > So we are to feel sorry for you because stolen technlogy no longer feeds
> > your fire?
>
> I think you fill sorry, that this flame will end shortly ;). This passage is
> argumented at the same level your are.

Then just what are you talking about? Are you saying you should be excused
because
the technology you stole no longer serves the purpose?

> > > 6) F/X released Injoy Connect. As far as we know this product
> > > was in beta for
> > >    few years and it is interesting to listen to a reason of
> > > such an urgent
> > >    release.
> > Nice competitors upgrade prices you were offering for versions 1.0+ I
> > think you knew where your competition was, you had Sergey didn't you?
>
> Sorry?  As far as I know there is no competition upgrade prices for SafeFire 
PPP
> yet. As for SafeFire Firewall the prices are really good for end users.
Don't
> understand your comment about Sergey. I don't think that FX hided prices for
> InJoy Firewall.

Your SFIRE.ZIP installation uploaded to Hobbes on 3/5/1999 contained the file
purchase.app specifically stating upgrade prices for InJoy Firewall. Standard
version through PRO. You knew damned well where your competitor was even in
future
versioning.

> > More lies look at the purchase.app file generated in your own install
> > from sfire.zip 3/5/1999. Give me a break how stupid can you be?
>
> Why they are stupid? Because they have not raised their prices?

No because you left evidence all over the world, man. Don't you freaking
understand
that everywhere your SFIRE.ZIP file was unloaded is the freaking binary
evidence?
Irrevocable and irrefutable?

>
> > > 7) Announce of PPPoE support and WarpCast silence. The
> > > situation is very
> > >    interesting. We will describe it here and it's up to you to
> > > make
> > >    decisions:
> > We did, you stole the technlogy and we knew it.
>
> Sorry, are you representing WarpCast? If so, I don't know why all the LGS
> messages was unanswered. You could send at least a pack of flame.

No, I am completely independent of any of the parties mentioned in any of this
discussion thread. Why is it so hard for you to believe that there are regular
people who know beyond any doubt that you stole the code and are willing to
come
forward and help fight against this type of activity? If you continue to read
other
rebuttals within this thread you will learn that ALL employees from WarpCast
were
instructed NOT to respond. You weren't even supposed to receive the
auto-respond
mail that they sent you. Good luck trying to get through to them again.

> > Probably right there. It takes more time to develop than to steal.
>
> Interesting. So you says that LGS stealed technology that was not developed? 
It
> is logical nosence.

This is another admission of guilt. What you are saying is that you had inside
information to the inner workings at FX. You must be very well informed to
make such
a statement, Sergey? Again how could you possibly have such information? Your
response is better that I would have imagined. I play this game well and your
responses are most incriminating.

>
> > > 9) This thread started by public answer of one of F/X users.
> > How about the ad you posted in the comp.os.os2.apps news group,
> > 12/22/1999 that has many times the replys?
>
> This is single message and not tons of smap from FX users we can see now.
>
> [HEADER skipped]
> Sorry. Why did you need to post the whole header here?

Because it was an advertisement that you put here! You said it started with a
note
you sent to a user. Again more lies and of course you snipped it because it
contained your IP address. You are an abundant liar how foolish you must be.
Any
user can see where the thread originated with YOUR ADVERTISEMENT! Geez you are
stupid.

>
> > SafeFire PPP 0.9 beta 59
> >
> > You are a liar and a thief.
> Sorry? Why this posting makes LGS liar? I think that you has problems with
logic
> in your mind.

I was responding to your previous response. You re-arranged my responses. Are
you so
stupid as to believe that you can simply change the organization of my
replies. They
are in the message listed right above your rebuttal?

> > > As a result of F/X actions SafeFire Firewall is not available
> > > for purchase
> > > for some time. SafeFire Firewall is removed from downloads at
> > > our site.
>
> > Is this an admission of guilt?
>
> This is fact.

Golly shucks. I wonder why?

>
> > > Therefore we consider this issue is CLOSED from our side.
> > > But new problem appears. Copyright status of that device driver
> > > is not clear.
> >
> > Then you did freaking lie in you ad. You stated that you did have the
> > Copyright. Are you just stupid?

No reply here the issue must be closed. If it is close why are you replying?

>
> > SafeFire PPP with the new PM user interface IS the most simple
> > way to the Internet.
>
> Sorry. First you post an except regarding Safefire Firewall and then blames
> SafeFire PPP.

It is still ill gotten gain. If a murder steals a gun and uses a knife to kill 
his
wife what difference does it make?

> > > We see only way to resolve it in a fair manner: F/X should
> > > write device driver
> > > from scratch.
> > They develped it to begin with why should they do it again.
>
> As far as I can see, they did not. Sergey did. And it is not clear who is
owning
> rights: Sergey, FX or LGS.

THIS IS A HUGE ADMISSION OF GUILT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING? IT
IS
UNETHICAL TO DEVELOP TECHNOLOGY WITH ONE COMPANY TO SELL TO ANOTHER!

> > Also your
> > advertisement in comp.os.os2.apps stated that you were copyrighted would
> > you please tell me the patent numbers so I can verify it myself?
>
> AFAIR Copyrighted and patented are different things. And again you are
wrong.
>
> Bye,
>         Vit.

Come on Vit you are not getting away that easily! Just telling me I am wrong.
Ok,
I'm wrong, how about some answers how about some truth for a change?

Please tell your side of the story, I mean about Sergey and his arrangement
with
you. Let's here some verifiable fact from your side for a change. Why don't
you
concoct some credible story and publish it instead of just being on the
defensive.
Let's hear how you got entangled in this affair.


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From: luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be                  30-Dec-99 01:46:15
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 00:54:07
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: "Luc Van Bogaert" <luc.vanbogaert.nospam@pandora.be>

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:49:48 +0100 (CET), Kim Haverblad wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 18:45:46 +0900, Wayne Bickell wrote:
>
>>If I remember rightly, there was a demo of Deskman on the Sampler CD
>>with Warp 4.
>
>Is the product still under development then, I know that's available from the
>cd..... but that demo cd goes back a while ;-)

No, the version on the sampler CD that's ages ago. There's an updated version
of Deskman/2 available 
from DevTech, but it's been on its (solid) level for quit some time now. But
DevTech is still in bussiness, 
as I bought the product right after Warpstock where they demoed it to me...


Luc Van Bogaert

  Vice President  - Warpstock
    Visit www.warpstock.org for the most important OS/2 event of the year


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From: Ted_E@bc.sympatico.ca                             29-Dec-99 16:37:03
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 00:54:07
Subj: Re: 2GB file size limit

From: Ted Edwards <Ted_E@bc.sympatico.ca>

Jules Gilbert wrote:

> >> I have a Adobe .pdf file (representing almost 700 pages of a manual)

Did you create this?  Where do you get software to create a .PDF file
and how much does it cost?

Ted

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From: jhimmel@i-2000.com                                30-Dec-99 00:58:12
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 00:54:07
Subj: Nescape problem?

From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman)

When using Nescape Messenger, if I try to play a .WAV that is 
attatched to an E-Mail, it crashes (exits with no error message). I 
have no trouble playing the attatched .WAV file when using MR/2 ICE.


[[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]]

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From: maynard@interaccess.com                           29-Dec-99 19:23:29
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:09
Subj: Re: Printer Recommendations...

From: Maynard Riley <maynard@interaccess.com>

Joe,

I'm quite pleased with my Epson Stylus Color 1520



Joe Heafner wrote:

> Hi.
>
> This may not be the appropriate group, but I saw no other any more
> approproiate, so here's my question.
>
> I'm in the market for a color printer (used a BJ-200 for 6 years now and
> it's time to upgrade). Any recommendations? What about the HP DeskJet
> 812C? Cannon BJC-2000? BJC-1000? Lexmark Z11?
>
>                         Thanks,
>
> --
>
>                         -- Joe Heafner
>
> Joe Heafner, Astronomy and Physics Instructor. Work:(828)327-7000 x4246
> my surname with my first initial at interpath dot com
> http://home.interpath.com/heafnerj/

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From: karen.l.mansbridge-wood@worldnet...               30-Dec-99 01:25:09
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:09
Subj: Re: Nescape problem?

Message sender: karen.l.mansbridge-wood@worldnet.att.net

From: karen.l.mansbridge-wood@worldnet.att.net

In <uprsNDlpp0Dh-pn2-LiDMbxPELdSc@f03-207-41-174-126.i-2000.net>,
jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman) writes:
>When using Nescape Messenger, if I try to play a .WAV that is 
>attatched to an E-Mail, it crashes (exits with no error message). I 
>have no trouble playing the attatched .WAV file when using MR/2 ICE.
>
>
>[[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]]

It's buggy.  It helps considerably if you have the latest fixpack and are
running java 1.1.8 with the newest fixes.  But I still find it more unstable
than my Star Office.

Karen

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From: maynard@interaccess.com                           29-Dec-99 19:28:28
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:09
Subj: Re: Virtual DeskTop

From: Maynard Riley <maynard@interaccess.com>

and Deskman/2 from Devtech


Kim Haverblad wrote:

> Is there any other apps around that will give OS2 virtual desktop functions
> except for Object DeskTop?

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From: mike.luther@ziplog.com                            30-Dec-99 01:36:04
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:09
Subj: Re: NC 4.xx - Where are hte Cookies?

From: mike.luther@ziplog.com

In <84ds9o$9d8$1@newsread.f.de.uu.net>, Frank Stolpmann <FStolpmann@knuut.de>
writes:
>Hi, 
>I wonder where the cookie info is stored. I use NC 4.04 for OS/2. Can   
>somebody help so that I can edit that cookie stuff?
>
> 
>Bye. 
> 
>Frank Stolpmann 

If I allow it, mine wind up down the USER directory trail, into the
subdirectory for the user.  In each user directory, I think you will
find the cookies file.

I've wound up using Internet Junk Buster to let me send a few trusted
sites cookies for things they want to do that are worth the mess of
fooling with them.  Most sites won't whimper if you don't accept them.
A few won't let you access the site without them.  That's where IBJ is
of value in making such a decision as a general thing..

There are other ways to do this.. I think SuperCache is also of value
and may be better than IJB, but I haven't tried it yet.


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

Mike.Luther@ziplog.com
Mike.Luther@f3000.n117.z1.fidonet.org

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From: alex@nukunuku.queensu.ca                          30-Dec-99 01:48:09
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:09
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: alex@nukunuku.queensu.ca (Alex Taylor)

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:40:25 -0500 (EST), Chris Stumpf <cstumpf@monmouth.com>
wrote:
>:>1) We ordered NDIS driver to Sergey (I don't know why BJ tries
>:>to set an equality
>:>   between Sergey with LGS. May be it is only possible politics
>:>for him to try
>:>   to win).
>
>Well, from this it looks like you were duped by Sergey into buying stolen
>code.  I'm starting to have some sympathy for you, until I get to the part
>below.
>
>--snip--
>
>:>Therefore we consider this issue is CLOSED from our side.
>:>But new problem appears. Copyright status of that device driver
>:>is not clear.
>:>But it not clear not only for us. It not clear for F/X too.
>:>We see only way to resolve it in a fair manner: F/X should
>:>write device driver
>:>from scratch.
>:>
>
>WTF, you are suggesting that FX, who owns the code and created the driver in
>the first place make a new one?  What the hell for?  Just so that you can get
>away with using stolen code?  I now have no sympathy for you.  This is a
>completely unreasonable suggestion to resolve the dispute.  Plus there is the
>matter of the stolen documentation and configuration files.

To be fair (as I am avoiding partisanship on this issue), if you read the
previous message carefully, it appears to be saying: "Since the copyright
of the driver is so contentious now, we are rewriting our driver from
scratch, and we encourage F/X to do the same."

Frankly, assuming that all parties are sincere, it does seem like a fair
proposition - from a neutral observer's point of view.

-- 
Alex Taylor
alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     30-Dec-99 02:12:15
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:09
Subj: Re: Fax  software

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:44:28, "Dilbert Firestorm" 
<wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:

> PmFax 3.01  (which I bought)
> Faxworks
> Faxworks Lite
> BGfax/2
> Fax067 for class 1, 2, 2.0 modems.
>  
> The first three are made by the same people if I'm not mistaken.   
> 

Yes, there was just a difference in the marketing and the (lack of) 
support with FaxWorks. PMFax is still marketed, and supported by 
Keller Group (there is a support package available from Keller group, 
for FaxWorks users).

Did you get the PMFax updates (available at the keller group web 
site)? I found that they fixed a lot of small problems.

I haven't tried the other two. packages.
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: huffd@nls.net                                     30-Dec-99 03:03:17
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:09
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net>

Neutral how? You stole my pie. Consider the time and ingredients that went
into it. You
didn't like my pie after you stole it. But when you stole my pie you also took 
the
recipe. Now you can put me out of the pie business too. What the hell is fair
about
that. Even if you worked for me when the pie was baked it is still my pie. Now 
you are
saying I have to re-invent my pie. For why SO YOU CAN FUCKING STEAL IT AGAIN!

Alex Taylor wrote:

>
> To be fair (as I am avoiding partisanship on this issue), if you read the
> previous message carefully, it appears to be saying: "Since the copyright
> of the driver is so contentious now, we are rewriting our driver from
> scratch, and we encourage F/X to do the same."
>
> Frankly, assuming that all parties are sincere, it does seem like a fair
> proposition - from a neutral observer's point of view.
>
> --
> Alex Taylor
> alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               30-Dec-99 04:57:29
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:09
Subj: Re: CDrecord/2 and Audio-CD-Creator

Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de

From: Christian Hennecke <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Pierre Jelenc schrieb:
> 
> I'm having trouble getting CDRecord/2 with the Audio-CD-Creator to work.
snip
> When started, it seems to go through the motions for the first track (out
> of 10), then aborts with two vio sessions, both owned by CDRecord. I copy
> below the content of those two windows, as well as the entire log file.
> 
> Any idea what goes wrong?

I have no idea, but I can confirm the problem. It's the same here with a
TEAC CDR-55S. Using cdrecord via the commandline works without problems.
Please send a bug report to Chris Wohlgemuth, the author of
Audio-CD-Creator.

Christian Hennecke
-- 
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               30-Dec-99 00:20:17
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:10
Subj: PMFAX - printing

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

anyone have any suggestions on this problem...?

I recently bought pmfax.  However, I'm unable to print any faxes that i
receive, it won't even print the pmfax logs too.  And  PMview is also affected
too as weel. it  won't  print any graphics  pictures.

I'm using Warp 3, and the  drivers in  use are the omni, and german drivers
v1020, and the pmfax driver.


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From: abacab@swissonline.ch                             29-Dec-99 23:06:01
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 03:28:10
Subj: GIMP/2: how moving a selection ?

From: Francois Hurter <abacab@swissonline.ch>

Hi, 
I am running GIMP/2 1.1.9 under Enlightenment and XFree86 3.3.5 under Warp 4
FP12 
And it looks really great. 
How can I move a selection (i.e. only the selection, not what is inside) ? 
When I am hitting ALT and left clicking the selection, it is the whole window
that is moving. 
Thanks for help 
Francois 



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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               30-Dec-99 02:10:02
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 06:31:09
Subj: Re: Fax software

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: Fax  software
BY: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

>Yes, there was just a difference in the marketing and the (lack of) 
>support with FaxWorks. PMFax is still marketed, and supported by 
>Keller Group (there is a support package available from Keller group, 
>for FaxWorks users).
>Did you get the PMFax updates (available at the keller group web 
>site)? I found that they fixed a lot of small problems.
>I haven't tried the other two. packages.

I got the latest version which is at 3.01.03q.



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From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua                                   30-Dec-99 11:18:04
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 10:25:02
Subj: Re: The Zero Cost F/X Solution to LGS

From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin)

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:05:55, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> wrote:

> Or what? You're going to turn me over your knee?

So you have nothing to say. And all can see this. That's all ;)

> 
> Vit Timchishin wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 18:08:26, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> wrote:
> >
> > > For those of you that don't know LGS is trying to sell SafeFire PPP a
> > > product that was developed with proprietary information gained from a
> > > developer once employed by F/X. We are not talking about concept code or
> > > code subject to poetic license, we are talking about actual theft of
> > > corporate property being re-sold.
> > I'd recommend You to either support Your words with some facts regarding
> > SafeFire PPP or shut up.
> > For example, find a plugin management solution comparable to Safire PPP
one in
> > FX products.
> 


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From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua                                   30-Dec-99 11:20:05
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 10:25:02
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: tvv@sbs.kiev.ua (Vit Timchishin)

X-Newsreader: ProNews/2 Version 1.501




On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:04:25, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> wrote:

> > > >    Unfortunately OS/2 MPTS do not support such a "Filters" and
> > > > so user can not
> > > >    configure the Driver using MPTS setup program. Probably some
> > > > kind of solution
> > > >    exists but not LGS nor F/X is aware about that solution.
> > > Oh but of course you had inside information about your competitor since
> > > you bought Sergey.

> > I think if they know about LGS. And since FX did not implement any
solution, it
> > has no solution.

> Are you trying to say that if FX didn't have the technology than neither
does LGS?
> Does this mean that you are admitting that Sergey stole the technology and
now you
> are admitting it? Wow? Either you don't understand the gravity what you are
saying
> or I am not understanding your view of your technology or something??

As far as I remember, the solution meant in the passage above is "configuring 
filter-style driver from the MPTS setup". Since it is not possible in the
InJoy 
Firewall I think that FX does not have such a solution. That's all.

> Then just what are you talking about? Are you saying you should be excused
because
> the technology you stole no longer serves the purpose?

LGS did not stole anything. It ordered a driver from a programmer and got the 
work done. That's all.

> > > More lies look at the purchase.app file generated in your own install
> > > from sfire.zip 3/5/1999. Give me a break how stupid can you be?
> >
> > Why they are stupid? Because they have not raised their prices?
> 
> No because you left evidence all over the world, man. Don't you freaking
understand
> that everywhere your SFIRE.ZIP file was unloaded is the freaking binary
evidence?
> Irrevocable and irrefutable?
> 

Sorry, I don't know details about SafeFire Firewall since I am not working at 
that project, but BJ said that SafeFire Firewall got to market after Injoy 
Firewall. So the prices were public at that time. Am I wrong?

> >
> > > > 7) Announce of PPPoE support and WarpCast silence. The
> > > > situation is very
> > > >    interesting. We will describe it here and it's up to you to
> > > > make
> > > >    decisions:

> > > We did, you stole the technlogy and we knew it.

> > Sorry, are you representing WarpCast? If so, I don't know why all the LGS
> > messages was unanswered. You could send at least a pack of flame.

> No, I am completely independent of any of the parties mentioned in any of
this
> discussion thread. Why is it so hard for you to believe that there are
regular
> people who know beyond any doubt that you stole the code and are willing to
come
> forward and help fight against this type of activity? If you continue to
read other
> rebuttals within this thread you will learn that ALL employees from WarpCast 
were
> instructed NOT to respond. You weren't even supposed to receive the
auto-respond
> mail that they sent you. Good luck trying to get through to them again.

Sorry, but You've used the word  "we" in your answer to the Warpcast question, 

and so I thought that You represent WarpCast here. I am happy, that this is
not 
right.

> 
> > > Probably right there. It takes more time to develop than to steal.
> >
> > Interesting. So you says that LGS stealed technology that was not
developed? It
> > is logical nosence.

> This is another admission of guilt. What you are saying is that you had
inside
> information to the inner workings at FX. You must be very well informed to
make such
> a statement, Sergey? Again how could you possibly have such information?
Your
> response is better that I would have imagined. I play this game well and
your
> responses are most incriminating.

Sorry, but I have only taken you passage "It takes more time to develop than
to 
steal". LGS published first version of the PPPoE at the 18 of November and
first
statement from FX seen was from the 19's of November (and it is still 
developing). So your statements are: "They stealed the technology over a month 

ago."; "This technology is not ready". This is nosence.

BTW: My name is not Sergey.

> > > > 9) This thread started by public answer of one of F/X users.
> > > How about the ad you posted in the comp.os.os2.apps news group,
> > > 12/22/1999 that has many times the replys?

> > [HEADER skipped]
> > Sorry. Why did you need to post the whole header here?
> 
> Because it was an advertisement that you put here! You said it started with
a note
> you sent to a user. Again more lies and of course you snipped it because it
> contained your IP address. You are an abundant liar how foolish you must be. 
Any
> user can see where the thread originated with YOUR ADVERTISEMENT! Geez you
are
> stupid.

Sorry, but AFAIK the thread meant is "thread with spam". As for me the subject 

has to be changed for a long time already ;). As you can see in message from
our
CEO it says "public _answer_", so he did not hide anything.
BTW: What's wrong with the IP?

> > > SafeFire PPP 0.9 beta 59
> > >
> > > You are a liar and a thief.
> > Sorry? Why this posting makes LGS liar? I think that you has problems with 
logic
> > in your mind.
> 
> I was responding to your previous response. You re-arranged my responses.
Are you so
> stupid as to believe that you can simply change the organization of my
replies. They
> are in the message listed right above your rebuttal?

Hm, you posted a message regarding new version of SafeFire PPP and then named 
CEO liar. This message is truth.
I did not rearrange anything. Of couse I was forced by newsserver to skip some 

spam ("More included than new text" error). 

> > > > As a result of F/X actions SafeFire Firewall is not available
> > > > for purchase
> > > > for some time. SafeFire Firewall is removed from downloads at
> > > > our site.
> >
> > > Is this an admission of guilt?
> >
> > This is fact.
> 
> Golly shucks. I wonder why?

That is the part of LGS proposal below. As soon as LGS will have new version 
with new drivers ready, it will be put on the site.

> > > > Therefore we consider this issue is CLOSED from our side.
> > > > But new problem appears. Copyright status of that device driver
> > > > is not clear.
> > >
> > > Then you did freaking lie in you ad. You stated that you did have the
> > > Copyright. Are you just stupid?
> 
> No reply here the issue must be closed. If it is close why are you replying?

Sorry, but as anyone can see, I did not reply to this passage. I left to to
show
the mess below (you've started from SafeFire Firewall and got to the SafeFire 
PPP).

> 
> >
> > > SafeFire PPP with the new PM user interface IS the most simple
> > > way to the Internet.
> >
> > Sorry. First you post an except regarding Safefire Firewall and then
blames
> > SafeFire PPP.
> 
> It is still ill gotten gain. If a murder steals a gun and uses a knife to
kill his
> wife what difference does it make?

You are trying to add some mess to the public? I don't think this is a good 
tactics? If you has something to say, say it.

> THIS IS A HUGE ADMISSION OF GUILT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING? IT 
IS
> UNETHICAL TO DEVELOP TECHNOLOGY WITH ONE COMPANY TO SELL TO ANOTHER!

That is not LGS problem.

> Come on Vit you are not getting away that easily! Just telling me I am
wrong. Ok,
> I'm wrong, how about some answers how about some truth for a change?

I am not going to get away.

> Please tell your side of the story, I mean about Sergey and his arrangement
with
> you. Let's here some verifiable fact from your side for a change. Why don't
you
> concoct some credible story and publish it instead of just being on the
defensive.
> Let's hear how you got entangled in this affair.

What arrangement are you talking about? 

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From: evsi@naverex.kiev.ua                              30-Dec-99 12:51:23
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 10:25:02
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: evsi@naverex.kiev.ua (Sergey I. Yevtushenko)

Hi,

Well. It's time for my reply.
I delayed this as long as I can but Bjarne gave me no choice.
All this time I have tried to solve the problem without war.
I contacted Bjarne and pressed to LGS.

But Bjarne not need solution. He even not tried to understand and
investigate actual problem in deep. Although it worth thing to do.

First of all I must say that actual problem is not between F/X and LGS.
Actual problem is between me and Bjarne.

At the end of August 1998 I started working with Bjarne on the new firewall
solution for cable modem connections. Before that Bjarne send me a message
with details of agreement. That agreement contains exact amount of monthly
payment.

Below is excerpt from the original message:

--- cut ---
That presents minimal risk to me, and that means that you have nothing
to worry about, with regards of payment (even if I'm ill for the full year,
then you would still have security for your money)..
--- cut ---

I have asked again and Bjarne confirmed this: regardless from the workload
I'll get AT LEAST sum mentioned in agreement.

"Regardless from the workload" actually meant 12-14 hours per day,
and at least 6 days a week but this is another story.

Just for information: I wrote not only NDIS device driver. Command line
and PM versions of firewall is also written by me. As well as some doc's.
There are also some bug fixes in modules written by Bjarne but this is less
significant.

The problem is that Bjarne not paid promised money.

This may lead to two different decisions:

1. That agreement worthless set of bytes.
2. That agreement was in action but Bjarne violated it.

In first case this discussion, as well as all Bjarne's claims
is just waste of time. There just CAN'T be any claims at all.

In second case Bjarne sells software written by me but this work is not paid
properly.

I understand that I can't put Bjarne in court. Compensation will
definitely will not cover expenses.

But I think there is a better solution which will lead to benefit
for everybody: F/X, LGS, their customers and me.

The solution is simple:

1. Bjarne should withdraw ALL complains sent to BMT Micro, GT Mall, Mensys,
   Warpcast and other parties, probably not known by me.

2. Bjarne should publicly say that he have NO claims to LGS.

3. I publicly say that I have no claims to F/X and Bjarne Jensen.

4. F/X and LGS receive the right to use code written by me for respective
   companies without limitations and without any claims from each party
   (me, F/X, LGS) to any other.

I have already contacted LGS and they support this proposition.

Bjarne has a week to think about this proposition.


Happy New Year to everybody!

Regards,
    Sergey I. Yevtushenko

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From: no.spam.epaxton@iafrica.com                       30-Dec-99 15:23:24
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 14:30:05
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Eric Paxton <no.spam.epaxton@iafrica.com>

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:49:37 +0300, "Ivan Adzhubei"
<ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> wrote:

>In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fnayb90.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/25/99 
>   at 10:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:
>
>Did you see contract Bjarne has with this developer? Did contract terms
>prevent him from developing his own software in the same field? Without
>all these legaleeze stuff it is worth nothing debating here. This is a
>legal issue, and it should be decided in court. This is the only sensible
>way.
>
People,

This behaviour in public is very unbecoming. The slander and libel being
committed is very unprofessional, not forgetting the re-opening of the
cold war in this thread. The unprofessionalism is probably the root
cause of the problem.

Ivan's contribution so far has been the most sensible, which is why I
have chosen to add to it. I have read all the subsequent posts.

If one accepts patent law as the norm for good business practice, then
the ownership of the code belongs with the entity that commissioned the
work. This would tend to favour Bjarne's case. But,  that can be
overturned by any contract between Fx and the coder. No one, so far, has
offered proof of ownership and if there is no contract then Fx only have
themselves to blame for the predicament that they now find themselves
in.

Allusions to e-mails and accusations of theft without proof of ownership
is not the way to resolve this issue.

Was the code based on an IBM NDIS developer kit, however obtained? Then
who owns the code? Does the contract specify exclusivity? Does the
contract specify how the partnership will be dissolved? I suspect that
there is no contract, in which case Bjarne has learnt an expensive
lesson and there is no obligation on LGS not to sell the product. 

If this kit was obtained unofficially from helpful IBM employees  and
passed on to LGS then some careers in IBM are being jeopardised.

The fact that LGS were able to publish working code first and the Fx
product was delayed seems to point to the fact that all the work was
being done in the Ukraine.

Language difficulties and point scoring have not helped but please stop
squabbleling like schoolboys in the playground, this is not forwarding
either sides case and we are all losers, including OS/2.

In the absence of proof of ownership this trial by media will not
achieve justice for either party and no right minded person will be
swayed by the propaganda and emotionalism which is all that we have
heard so far. Put up or shut up.

Best regards to all, 

Eric.


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From: jluiz@neocomm.com.br                              30-Dec-99 12:39:17
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 14:30:05
Subj: Multicast File Transfer Tool for OS/2

From: Joao Luiz P Jr <jluiz@neocomm.com.br>

Hello everybody,
We just released the NeoComm Vector for OS/2 version GA1.00. It's a file

transfer utility that uses multicast technology in a one-to-may basis.
Ours tests showed a bandwidth saving up to 70% compared to conventional
FTP.

More information at: http://www.neocomm.com


Best Regards,

Joao Luiz P. Jr.
Project Manager - NeoComm





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From: wsonna@ibm.net                                    30-Dec-99 14:49:19
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 14:30:05
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna)

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:04:25, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> 
wrote:

[snip]

> THIS IS A HUGE ADMISSION OF GUILT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING? IT 
IS
> UNETHICAL TO DEVELOP TECHNOLOGY WITH ONE COMPANY TO SELL TO ANOTHER!

Not necessarily. Any and all expertise can be construed to be paid for
by others if it was acquired on the job.

But that isn't going to stop workers from taking new jobs doing 
similar work every day.  Nor is it going to stop an apprentice 
handyman (who learned to paint while working on your apt building) 
from painting the halls of the apartment building that's luring your 
tenants away.

So, objectively:

Are the programs, in fact, identical? (Evidence please)

Was Sergey employed as an independent contractor or as an employee? 
(Evidence, please)

What explicit non-disclosure agreement did Sergey sign and 
subsequently violate? (Evidence, please)

What implied (ie, industry standard IN THE LOCATION THE WORK WAS BEING
DONE) non-disclosure agreement did Sergey violate? (Evidence, please. 
Hold the rhetoric.)

What personal understanding between Sergey and Bjarne did Sergey 
violate? (Evidence please.  Hold the rhetoric).

How and why do the answers to the above preclude the possibility of 
dual ownership? (Evidence AND rhetoric, please)

What legal action has Bjarne initiated against Sergey? (Evidence 
please.  Hold the rhetoric).

The answers to these questions should be used determine whether Sergey
is a thief or Bjarne is a slanderer.

And the facts will generally speak more loudly and clearly than the 
claims of the parties.

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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             30-Dec-99 15:17:21
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 14:30:05
Subj: Re: OS2 USB and video camera

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

Depends on your chipset.  The IBM driver only supports the UHCI 
version which is Intel's.  For a fairly good discussion on this read 
John Twelker's article in the November VOICE Newsletter: 
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL1199H/vnewsf5.htm

Mark

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 02:57:58, Jon Schuck <sfactual@erols.com> wrote:

-)Has anyone gotten OS2 to work with USB?
-)
-)"William R. Estrada II" wrote:
-)
-)> Hello,
-)>
-)>   Has anybody been able to get OS2 to work with a USB camera?  If so,
-)> which camera?
-)>
-)>                Thanks, Rick Estrada.
-)

--

---------------------------------------------------------
 From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA
             Healthcare Computer Consultant
                   madodel@ptdprolog.net
    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel

  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
             http://www.os2voice.org/index.html
---------------------------------------------------------


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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk                        30-Dec-99 15:19:26
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 14:30:05
Subj: OPCONSOL.EXE

From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)

Has anyone come across OPCONSOL?

It has been available on Hobbes for a number of years, and provides the
OS/2 equivalent of an MVS Operator's Console, and is quite a handy utility
in terms of telling which files are loaded and how much system resource they
have used.

The license details include this section:

You are granted a license to try this program (OPCONSOL) until it is
released as a commercial product or as Shareware, after which time
you MUST register it or discontinue its use.  A Drop-Dead date will
be included in the next version of the software.

The version on Hobbes is 1.02.1. Has anyone ever come 'the *next* version' ?

--
John




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From: bj@fx.dk                                          30-Dec-99 15:39:20
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 14:30:05
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: Bjarne Jensen <bj@fx.dk>

Finally the dog is in the corner ...

1:
Your pay was reduced because of another SCAM.
you broke the law and rejected to pay tax in Ukraine!!

2:
F/X IS NOT ALLOWED TO DEDUCT A LABOUR EXPENSE IF THE
RECEIVER DOESN'T PAY TAX, thus making the expense more
than twice the size of what was negotiated with you.

Again, I have evidence for both the above points!

3:
You UNDERSTOOD and agreed to the monthly reductions.
If you claim NOT too, then you should obviously have
quit the job with F/X and left the product in its
unfinished state. You didn't do that, instead you
came up with another SCAM!

Trying to get emotional now is your latest SCAM!

4:
You don't mention the money for a computer that was
outside the contract. Also, you don't mention that you
had daily excuses for not working. Father gets cancer,
you get heart problems, you get hospitalized, no Internet
connection for months, etc, etc, etc. And even though
you write fair code, then the rest of your work was
TOTALLY USELESS and unprofessional!!

5:
You don't mention the other scam where you worked for
2 months and when I received the code, it was just a
sample program that was already publically available.

6:
Your work on the project, was mainly the driver and then
you worked on the GWPM userinterface too. That's no secret.
The rest of the components were already existing in the
InJoy Dialer. Your work on documentation was useless
(most people have noticed your English) and had to be
totally rewritten.



Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: sachmo@horn.net                                   30-Dec-99 15:54:17
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 14:30:05
Subj: Re: WIN-OS/2 and Corel Word Perfect

From: sachmo@horn.net

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:26:57, "Ralph Alvy" <ralvy@compuserve.com> 
wrote:

> WPCorp's original recommendations, followed by mine ...

Ralph,

Thanks much! I'll try to hang on to them from now on. :-)

Gene
pequod@salisbury.net
---------------
The minstrel boy to the war is gone
In the ranks of death you'll find him;
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard;
Words shall never sound in slavery!
   --Thomas Moore (1779-1852)

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From: enaud@bellsouth.net                               30-Dec-99 11:19:20
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 14:30:05
Subj: Re: WarpUP vs. Software Choice???

From: Duane Chamblee <enaud@bellsouth.net>

Joe Heafner wrote:
> Today I ordered the latest WarpUP CD-ROM from Indelible Blue. Will this
> service continue to be available even after Software Choice goes commercial
> as of 1 Jan?

When Software Choice items become "private" I wont be able to include
them anymore. The public fixpaks and other utilities will still be
available, so WarpUP will continue with these and other OS/2 products.
WarpUP is a COMPANION to Warp/Software Choice, not a
replacement/substitute.

> On the other hand, after two WarpUP CD's one will already have
> spent nearly the yearly subscription fee to Software Choice. Has anyone
> actually paid for the new SC service?

I'm not sure I understand this. WarpUP is $19.

Previous Software Choice subscriptions didn't come with fixpaks or any
assistance with installing products. The $19 for WarpUP is for the
engine that helps determine what needs service and limited tech support.
FWIW, WarpUP is a better "deal" by far than Software Choice.

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From: abrahams@sparc.isl.net                            30-Dec-99 10:27:24
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 14:30:05
Subj: Re: PMFAX - printing

From: "Lionel C. Abrahams" <abrahams@sparc.isl.net>

On Thu, 30 Dec 99 00:20:35 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

>anyone have any suggestions on this problem...?
>
>I recently bought pmfax.  However, I'm unable to print any faxes that i
>receive, it won't even print the pmfax logs too.  And  PMview is also
affected
>too as weel. it  won't  print any graphics  pictures.
>
>I'm using Warp 3, and the  drivers in  use are the omni, and german drivers
>v1020, and the pmfax driver.
>
>
>Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
>
>
It is printing fine on my system.  Did you check and make sure that
in the Print Fax printer object
that LPT3 is the selected Output port.  For some reason, I think it
selected LPT1 by default when I created the Fax printer object.

Good luck
...Posted with PMINews 2.00.1200
   using OS/2 WARP4 @FP12




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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     30-Dec-99 17:20:11
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 16:33:21
Subj: Re: PMFAX - printing

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:20:35, "Dilbert Firestorm" 
<wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:

> anyone have any suggestions on this problem...?
> 
> I recently bought pmfax.  However, I'm unable to print any faxes that i
> receive, it won't even print the pmfax logs too.  And  PMview is also
affected
> too as weel. it  won't  print any graphics  pictures.
> 
> I'm using Warp 3, and the  drivers in  use are the omni, and german drivers
> v1020, and the pmfax driver.
> 
> 
> Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
> 
> 

You don't say what printer you are trying to use, but by "OMNI", and 
"v1020", I assume it is something similar to an Epson Stylus Color 
600. If your printer is supported by the EPOMNI driver, scrap the 
OMNI. and the German driver, and install EPOMNI. You can get it from 
the Device Driver web site at:

http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm

There are major problems with the German driver, and OMNI is not 
tailored specifically to your printer. EPOMNI works better than either
one on my Stylus Color 600.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: cwr@crash.cts.com                                 30-Dec-99 17:48:02
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 16:33:21
Subj: Re: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: Will Rose <cwr@crash.cts.com>

judithr@primenet.com wrote:

: On 27 Dec 1999 10:18:37 GMT, Will Rose wrote:


: FWIW, mine works.  Warp4, FP12. -- or the spellcheck works, and I
: assume that uses the dictionary. If you saved the old dll folder
: someplace, replace the new etke603.dll  with the old one and the
: toolbar buffet will work again also.   Fixpaks always break that.  

No, I've now backlevelled epm.exe and all the etk* dlls, and no joy.
I've also tried backlevelling DOSCALL1.DLL and VIOCALLS.DLL, which
are used by lexam.dll.  Which version (size, date) of LEXAM.DLL
are you using, and where did you get it?

I've never seen the source for lexam.dll, but if anyone knows where
it is (or if the format of the dictionary was ever released)  I'd
love to know.


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov                          30-Dec-99 12:07:05
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 16:33:21
Subj: Re: OPCONSOL.EXE

From: Bennie Nelson <b.l.nelson@larc.nasa.gov>

AFAIK, this program was the victim of a system failure.  I believe
the author posted some information stating that the source had been 
lost due to a hardware failure and he was hoping to recode the program 
in order to carry the project further.

I had tried to version that was posted on hobbes and was impressed by
it.  I was looking forward to seeing enhancments. 

Regards,
Bennie Nelson

John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> Has anyone come across OPCONSOL?
> 
> It has been available on Hobbes for a number of years, and provides the
> OS/2 equivalent of an MVS Operator's Console, and is quite a handy utility
> in terms of telling which files are loaded and how much system resource they
> have used.
> 
> The license details include this section:
> 
> You are granted a license to try this program (OPCONSOL) until it is
> released as a commercial product or as Shareware, after which time
> you MUST register it or discontinue its use.  A Drop-Dead date will
> be included in the next version of the software.
> 
> The version on Hobbes is 1.02.1. Has anyone ever come 'the *next* version' ?
> 
> --
> John

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From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com                           30-Dec-99 12:23:08
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 16:33:21
Subj: Re: Netscape question

From: Michael Kaply <mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>

I can tell you how to put Spanish on your English browser, regardless of
encryption.

Under NETSCAPE is a directory called LANG. For english, there is a directory
en_us. For spanish, there is a directory es_es.

If you put the es_es directory where your en_us directory is (you would have
both there), you can type netscape -l es_es and start the spanish version.

I think the easiest way to do this is to install spanish and then install
english OVER it (same directory). Don't let it uninstall when asked.

All your icons will then default to english, but if you type netscape -l
es_es you start spanish.

If this doesn't work, install Spanish then back up the es_es dir somewhere.
Then uninstall spanish, install english and put es_es back.

We run like this at work all the time. I have had all 18 languages installed
in one configuration.

Good luck.

Mike Kaply
IBM

Nicky Morrow wrote:

>I would like to be able to run both of these versions of Communicator on
>the same machine:
>
>- Communicator/2 v4.61, 128 bit (English)
>- Communicator/2 v4,61, 56 bit (Spanish)
>
>Does anyone know how to do this?
>
>Thanks, Nick
>
>*** To reply, please remove ".NOSPAM" from my e-mail address. ***

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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             30-Dec-99 18:35:00
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 16:33:21
Subj: Re: OPCONSOL.EXE

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

I did a review of Opconsol in the Oct VOICE Newsletter - 
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_issues/VNL1097H/vnewsf.htm#reviews

Same version as you found on HOBBES.    The author, Gary Green 
contacted me and told me he had lost all his source for the 1.3 
version in a drive crash and was working on re-creating it.  That was 
two years ago and I have not heard anything more.  His email at the 
time was garygreen@ibm.net  Maybe you can drop him a line and find out
what happened.   Thanks for reminding me about it.  I'll have to try 
it out on WSeb.

Mark

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:19:53, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John 
Poltorak) wrote:

-)Has anyone come across OPCONSOL?
-)
-)It has been available on Hobbes for a number of years, and provides the
-)OS/2 equivalent of an MVS Operator's Console, and is quite a handy utility
-)in terms of telling which files are loaded and how much system resource they
-)have used.
-)
-)The license details include this section:
-)
-)You are granted a license to try this program (OPCONSOL) until it is
-)released as a commercial product or as Shareware, after which time
-)you MUST register it or discontinue its use.  A Drop-Dead date will
-)be included in the next version of the software.
-)
-)The version on Hobbes is 1.02.1. Has anyone ever come 'the *next* version' ?
-)
-)--
-)John
-)
-)
-)
-)

--

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    http://home.ptd.net/~madodel

  For a VOICE in the future of OS/2
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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              30-Dec-99 18:50:12
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 16:33:21
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <05C6FUhLDNUU-pn2-kv81Rm7di1Td@localhost>, wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna)
writes:
>On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:04:25, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> 
>wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> THIS IS A HUGE ADMISSION OF GUILT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING?
IT IS
>> UNETHICAL TO DEVELOP TECHNOLOGY WITH ONE COMPANY TO SELL TO ANOTHER!
>
>Not necessarily. Any and all expertise can be construed to be paid for
>by others if it was acquired on the job.
>
>But that isn't going to stop workers from taking new jobs doing 
>similar work every day.  Nor is it going to stop an apprentice 
>handyman (who learned to paint while working on your apt building) 
>from painting the halls of the apartment building that's luring your 
>tenants away.
>
>So, objectively:
>
>Are the programs, in fact, identical? (Evidence please)
>
>Was Sergey employed as an independent contractor or as an employee? 
>(Evidence, please)
>
>What explicit non-disclosure agreement did Sergey sign and 
>subsequently violate? (Evidence, please)
>
>What implied (ie, industry standard IN THE LOCATION THE WORK WAS BEING
>DONE) non-disclosure agreement did Sergey violate? (Evidence, please. 
>Hold the rhetoric.)
>
>What personal understanding between Sergey and Bjarne did Sergey 
>violate? (Evidence please.  Hold the rhetoric).
>
>How and why do the answers to the above preclude the possibility of 
>dual ownership? (Evidence AND rhetoric, please)
>
>What legal action has Bjarne initiated against Sergey? (Evidence 
>please.  Hold the rhetoric).
>
>The answers to these questions should be used determine whether Sergey
>is a thief or Bjarne is a slanderer.
>
>And the facts will generally speak more loudly and clearly than the 
>claims of the parties.
>

Applause to William.

Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               30-Dec-99 11:00:25
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 16:33:21
Subj: Re: PMFAX - printing

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:27:48 -0600 (CST), Lionel C. Abrahams wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Dec 99 00:20:35 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:
>
>>anyone have any suggestions on this problem...?
>>
>>I recently bought pmfax.  However, I'm unable to print any faxes that i
>>receive, it won't even print the pmfax logs too.  And  PMview is also
affected
>>too as weel. it  won't  print any graphics  pictures.
>>
>>I'm using Warp 3, and the  drivers in  use are the omni, and german drivers
>>v1020, and the pmfax driver.
>>
>>
>>Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509
>>
>>

Doesn't sound like a PMFax specific problem.    More like a printer driver
problem.   Can you print from EPM?

>It is printing fine on my system.  Did you check and make sure that
>in the Print Fax printer object
>that LPT3 is the selected Output port.  For some reason, I think it
>selected LPT1 by default when I created the Fax printer object.
>

I would assume the original poster meant invoking the print function from
within PMFax.   In that case, it would have nothing to do with the PrintFax
printer object - that's only if you want to fax something from another
application (like a word processor).    

Unless the version you use is different than my, it SHOULD use LPT3 by
default.

Regards.


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From: ivanjt@free.fr                                    30-Dec-99 19:41:14
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 19:59:11
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: ivan turner <ivanjt@free.fr>

Well said!

regards
Ivan

Eric Paxton wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:49:37 +0300, "Ivan Adzhubei"
> <ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> wrote:
> 
> >In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fnayb90.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/25/99
> >   at 10:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:
> >
> >Did you see contract Bjarne has with this developer? Did contract terms
> >prevent him from developing his own software in the same field? Without
> >all these legaleeze stuff it is worth nothing debating here. This is a
> >legal issue, and it should be decided in court. This is the only sensible
> >way.
> >
> People,
> 
> This behaviour in public is very unbecoming. The slander and libel being
> committed is very unprofessional, not forgetting the re-opening of the
> cold war in this thread. The unprofessionalism is probably the root
> cause of the problem.
> 
> Ivan's contribution so far has been the most sensible, which is why I
> have chosen to add to it. I have read all the subsequent posts.
> 
> If one accepts patent law as the norm for good business practice, then
> the ownership of the code belongs with the entity that commissioned the
> work. This would tend to favour Bjarne's case. But,  that can be
> overturned by any contract between Fx and the coder. No one, so far, has
> offered proof of ownership and if there is no contract then Fx only have
> themselves to blame for the predicament that they now find themselves
> in.
> 
> Allusions to e-mails and accusations of theft without proof of ownership
> is not the way to resolve this issue.
> 
> Was the code based on an IBM NDIS developer kit, however obtained? Then
> who owns the code? Does the contract specify exclusivity? Does the
> contract specify how the partnership will be dissolved? I suspect that
> there is no contract, in which case Bjarne has learnt an expensive
> lesson and there is no obligation on LGS not to sell the product.
> 
> If this kit was obtained unofficially from helpful IBM employees  and
> passed on to LGS then some careers in IBM are being jeopardised.
> 
> The fact that LGS were able to publish working code first and the Fx
> product was delayed seems to point to the fact that all the work was
> being done in the Ukraine.
> 
> Language difficulties and point scoring have not helped but please stop
> squabbleling like schoolboys in the playground, this is not forwarding
> either sides case and we are all losers, including OS/2.
> 
> In the absence of proof of ownership this trial by media will not
> achieve justice for either party and no right minded person will be
> swayed by the propaganda and emotionalism which is all that we have
> heard so far. Put up or shut up.
> 
> Best regards to all,
> 
> Eric.

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From: l_luciano@da.mob                                  30-Dec-99 20:23:14
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 19:59:11
Subj: Re: PMFAX - printing

From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman)

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:27:48, "Lionel C. Abrahams" <abrahams@sparc.isl.net>
wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Dec 99 00:20:35 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:
> 
> >anyone have any suggestions on this problem...?
> >
> >I recently bought pmfax.  However, I'm unable to print any faxes that i
> >receive, it won't even print the pmfax logs too.  And  PMview is also
affected
> >too as weel. it  won't  print any graphics  pictures.
> >
> >I'm using Warp 3, and the  drivers in  use are the omni, and german drivers
> >v1020, and the pmfax driver.

> It is printing fine on my system.  Did you check and make sure that
> in the Print Fax printer object
> that LPT3 is the selected Output port.  For some reason, I think it
> selected LPT1 by default when I created the Fax printer object.

You are confusing two things. His problem is printing FAXES RECEIVED, which
has to be done through a normal printer and printer driver, connected to a 
physical port. The Fax Printer object is for "printing" word-processor or 
other files through the telephone system to a remote fax receiver.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

E-mail sent to l_luciano@da.mob will, of course, not reach me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.


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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    30-Dec-99 20:48:28
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 19:59:11
Subj: Re: CDrecord/2 and Audio-CD-Creator

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

Christian Hennecke  <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> writes:
> 
> I have no idea, but I can confirm the problem. It's the same here with a
> TEAC CDR-55S. Using cdrecord via the commandline works without problems.

Could you explain in details how you do it? I have absolutely no
experience with burners, and was hoping that Audio-CD-Creator would
my problems.

> Please send a bug report to Chris Wohlgemuth, the author of
> Audio-CD-Creator.

Done

Pierre
-- 
Pierre Jelenc                |  Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com
                             | www.mp3.com/cucumbers  www.mp3.com/pawnshop
The New York City Beer Guide |      www.cdbaby.com/buy/rawkinder.htm
   http://www.nycbeer.org    |         www.mp3.com/jeniferjackson

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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    30-Dec-99 21:42:09
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 19:59:12
Subj: Re: CDrecord/2 and Audio-CD-Creator

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

Christian Hennecke  <christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> writes:
> 
> I have no idea, but I can confirm the problem. It's the same here with a
> TEAC CDR-55S. Using cdrecord via the commandline works without problems.

Could you explain in details how you do it? I have absolutely no
experience with burners, and was hoping that Audio-CD-Creator would
my problems.

> Please send a bug report to Chris Wohlgemuth, the author of
> Audio-CD-Creator.

Actually, he seems to have anticipated me. There's a new version 0.35
dated 10.12.1999 (Dec. 10 1999) which seems to have fixed it, at least in
dummy write. I'll go ahead and do a real burn shortly.

Pierre
-- 
Pierre Jelenc                |  Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com
                             | www.mp3.com/cucumbers  www.mp3.com/pawnshop
The New York City Beer Guide |      www.cdbaby.com/buy/rawkinder.htm
   http://www.nycbeer.org    |         www.mp3.com/jeniferjackson

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From: iasinfoNOSPAM@mediaone.net                        30-Dec-99 22:13:00
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 19:59:12
Subj: Re: CDrecord/2 and Audio-CD-Creator

From: iasinfoNOSPAM@mediaone.net (Charlie Schwartz)

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:52:01, rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) wrote:

> 
> I'm having trouble getting CDRecord/2 with the Audio-CD-Creator to work.

I'm having even more basic problems. Cdrecord works fine. I'm able to 
burn disks with no problem. Audio-CD-Creator, however, doesn't start 
any processes for me at all - no vio windows, no messages, nothing. 
However, it seems to think that it is running. When I go to start it 
again, I get a message saying that image creation or writing is going 
on - which it is not. I can use PCCDrec ok, but the CD creator offers 
more features and I'd like to use it. Any solutions?

___________________________

Charlie Schwartz

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From: wdlkhl@attglobal.net                              30-Dec-99 14:24:27
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 19:59:12
Subj: Re: OPCONSOL.EXE

From: Wm D Loughman <wdlkhl@attglobal.net>

I 'discovered' it a long time ago.  It _is_ neat.  I spent considerable
effort trying to contact the authors, find an update, etc.  Nada.  Zip. 
If _you_ find a lead, please let me know?

John Poltorak wrote:
> 
> Has anyone come across OPCONSOL?
> 
> It has been available on Hobbes for a number of years, and provides the
> OS/2 equivalent of an MVS Operator's Console, and is quite a handy utility
> in terms of telling which files are loaded and how much system resource they
> have used.
> 
> The license details include this section:
> 
> You are granted a license to try this program (OPCONSOL) until it is
> released as a commercial product or as Shareware, after which time
> you MUST register it or discontinue its use.  A Drop-Dead date will
> be included in the next version of the software.
> 
> The version on Hobbes is 1.02.1. Has anyone ever come 'the *next* version' ?
> 
> --
> John

-- 

WD "Bill" Loughman       "The problem with the gene pool: no lifeguard."
Berkeley, California  USA
wdlkhl@attglobal.net

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From: charlie.smith@sdpsbbs.sdps-bbs.com                31-Dec-99 00:09:25
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 21:20:00
Subj: GIMP/2: how moving a selection ?

From: charlie.smith@sdpsbbs.sdps-bbs.com

 -=> Quoting abacab@swissonline.ch to All <=-

 ab> From: Francois Hurter <abacab@swissonline.ch>

 ab> Hi,
 ab> I am running GIMP/2 1.1.9 under Enlightenment and XFree86 3.3.5
 under
 ab> Warp 4 FP12  And it looks really great.
 ab> How can I move a selection (i.e. only the selection, not what is
 ab> inside) ?  When I am hitting ALT and left clicking the
 selection, it is
 ab> the whole window that is moving.  Thanks for help
 ab> Francois

Not sure about your GIMP problem but I have another question.

Where did you find binaries for Enlightenment?  Or did you build it
yourself from ALL those sources?

I started building it but found some of the items way over my head.

Thanks

Charlie Smith


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From: rcpj@panix.com                                    31-Dec-99 00:30:14
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 21:20:00
Subj: Re: CDrecord/2 and Audio-CD-Creator

From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)

Charlie Schwartz <iasinfoNOSPAM@mediaone.net> writes:
> 
> I'm having even more basic problems. Cdrecord works fine. I'm able to 
> burn disks with no problem. Audio-CD-Creator, however, doesn't start 
> any processes for me at all - no vio windows, no messages, nothing. 
> However, it seems to think that it is running. When I go to start it 
> again, I get a message saying that image creation or writing is going 
> on - which it is not. I can use PCCDrec ok, but the CD creator offers 
> more features and I'd like to use it. Any solutions?

Which version do you have? The latest is 0.35 from 10 Dec 99. For me, it
has fixed all problems, at least for audio (I haven't tried data yet) on
both CDR and CDRW.

Pierre
-- 
Pierre Jelenc                |  Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com
                             | www.mp3.com/cucumbers  www.mp3.com/pawnshop
The New York City Beer Guide |      www.cdbaby.com/buy/rawkinder.htm
   http://www.nycbeer.org    |         www.mp3.com/jeniferjackson

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From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com               31-Dec-99 00:58:29
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 21:20:00
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com (Paul Saletan)

I'll hang on, then, but it doesn't give me confidence when the voice
recording at tech support (during the business day yet) encourages me
to leave a message, then says the mailbox cannot receive messages.
None of the web pages announcing this service even has an e-mail
address to send questions.  I can't see a good reason why they would
not provide any channel to at least e-mail them.


Tim Martin <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com> wrote:

>Paul Saletan wrote:
>
>> This sounds like a great deal at $11.95 per month, but the support at
>> the moment seems shaky.  Maybe not enough employees on board as they
>> ramp up and they're outsourcing.  When I called up to inquire about
>> setting up account I was told that there are problems with the web
>> page pre-registration procedure so they suggested taking my
>> application over the phone.  After getting my credit card info, the
>> representative had to put me on hold several times to ask someone else
>> what the SMTP and POP3 server names were and had no idea what the DNS
>> numbers were (she first told me they were "server assigned").  It was
>> suggested that I call back and speak to tech support.  However,
>> there's a recording if you call evenings or nights that says support
>> is open 9-5 Pacific time, even though their web pages advertise 24/7
>> support availability.
>>
>> // Paul Saletan  ** Please remove NOJUNKMAIL from address when replying
>
>Actual service doesn't begin (I believe) until January 3rd
>so you may be a little early.  I do know this new OS/2 ISP
>has been swamped with signups and I would assume people
>don't sign up for such things blindly.  There were so
>many signups that a press release was issued within days
>of the initial announcement saying the service would also
>offer newsgroup access, a feature that was not originally
>offered.
>
>Nationwide dialup, local dialups, $12 bucks a month for
>unlimited 56k access and all specifically aimed at OS/2
>users.   And I also believe they are working on offering
>low-cost DSL accounts 'down the road'.
>
>If you're a 'good shopper' then finding a good deal is
>always worth a little extra effort.  This is a deal well
>worth the extra OS2 effort.
>
>Tim Martin
>The OS/2 Guy
>Warp City (http://warpcity.com)
>"Y2K NEW Member Discounts End 12/31!"
>


// Paul Saletan  ** Please remove NOJUNKMAIL from address when replying

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From: judithr@primenet.com                              30-Dec-99 17:04:09
  To: All                                               30-Dec-99 23:19:05
Subj: Re: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: judithr@primenet.com

>judithr@primenet.com wrote:

>: On 27 Dec 1999 10:18:37 GMT, Will Rose wrote:


>: FWIW, mine works.  Warp4, FP12. -- or the spellcheck works, and I
>: assume that uses the dictionary. If you saved the old dll folder
>: someplace, replace the new etke603.dll  with the old one and the
>: toolbar buffet will work again also.   Fixpaks always break that.  

>No, I've now backlevelled epm.exe and all the etk* dlls, and no
>joy. I've also tried backlevelling DOSCALL1.DLL and VIOCALLS.DLL,
>which are used by lexam.dll.  Which version (size, date) of
>LEXAM.DLL are you using, and where did you get it?

>I've never seen the source for lexam.dll, but if anyone knows where
>it is (or if the format of the dictionary was ever released)  I'd
>love to know.
>Will
>cwr@crash.cts.com

I have oslexam.dll of 106999bytes with a 1993 date. I can zip up the
entire dll folder from OS/2 apps with all the ones I have that work
and put it in my anon. ftp directory on Primenet for you if you
wish.  It would be a little big to email, but I could try that if
anon ftp won't work for you. 


Judith Russell       
judithr@primenet.com                    
Saugus Web Coordinator
http://www.hart.k12.ca.us/saugus



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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               30-Dec-99 21:25:00
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:18
Subj: Re: PMFAX - printing

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: PMFAX - printing
BY: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet

>I would assume the original poster meant invoking the print function from
>within PMFax.   In that case, it would have nothing to do with the PrintFax
>printer object - that's only if you want to fax something from another
>application (like a word processor).    
>Unless the version you use is different than my, it SHOULD use LPT3 by
>default.

Hmm the way the pmfax driver works, you just have to drag and drop the this
file to the pmfax printer icon?



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From: see.sig@the.end                                   30-Dec-99 23:15:13
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:18
Subj: Re: dBASE clone wanted

From: Michael <see.sig@the.end>

John Poltorak wrote:
> Yes, I know it runs, but it's just not the same as having a native version.
> 
> >-bc-

I have dBase IV.  $5 closeout at an Office Max 2 years ago.  Learning
curve was too steep for the time I had available, so it's now
shelfware.  I looked into Big Blue's database but am not wealthy.  So I
stick with PCFile.

Native apps aren't always the best option.  Navigator runs slow on my
machine but I use it.  WordPerfect was a nightmare; I went back to using
v5.0 in a VDM.  In fact, looking at my desktop, I've got a grand total
of two native OS/2 apps.  Everything else is DOS ... with some Win31
trash sprinkled in for flavor.

-- 
Michael    who thinks Warp 3 is the latest and greatest
---
NOTE:  Reply_To has been forged to foil SPAM.
Please reply via this NewsGroup.

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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               30-Dec-99 22:27:19
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:18
Subj: fixpacks

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

what's the easiest way to download those fixpacks (*.ddk or *.zip) at the ibm
website?
-=-


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From: iasinfoNOSPAM@mediaone.net                        31-Dec-99 04:46:24
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:18
Subj: Re: CDrecord/2 and Audio-CD-Creator

From: iasinfoNOSPAM@mediaone.net (Charlie Schwartz)

On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:30:28, rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) wrote:

> Which version do you have? The latest is 0.35 from 10 Dec 99. For me, it
> has fixed all problems, at least for audio (I haven't tried data yet) on
> both CDR and CDRW.
> 

I'm using 0.35. I'm thinking the problem could have something to do 
with Object Desktop which I'm also using.

___________________________

Charlie Schwartz

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From: jdb@juliand.com                                   30-Dec-99 23:46:01
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:19
Subj: Re: fixpacks

From: Julian Dominic <jdb@juliand.com>

IMHO the easiest way is to use the remote download facility IBM provides.
Details are at:
http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html

Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

> what's the easiest way to download those fixpacks (*.ddk or *.zip) at the
ibm
> website?
> -=-
>
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From: timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz                          31-Dec-99 08:56:17
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:19
Subj: Re: fixpacks

From: "Timur Kazimirov" <timurkz@saxz.mmbankz.ruz>

On Thu, 30 Dec 99 22:27:38 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

>what's the easiest way to download those fixpacks (*.ddk or *.zip) at the ibm
>website?

For example, downloading FP12 from the ftp site:

wget -r -np
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v4warp/english-us/xr_m012/


Of course, I suppose that wget is installed ;)

With best regards,
Timur Kazimirov

-- Remove all "z" from my address to reply



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From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com                       31-Dec-99 05:58:18
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:19
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD )

In message <54im6sov51s9m997s7gug4v7c5g111ch04@4ax.com> - Eric Paxton
<no.spam.epaxton@iafrica.com> writes:
>
>On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:49:37 +0300, "Ivan Adzhubei"
><ivan@protein.bio.msu.su> wrote:
>
>>In <pfghzcszbazbhgupbz.fnayb90.pminews@news.monmouth.com>, on 12/25/99 
>>   at 10:13 AM, "Chris Stumpf" <cstumpf@monmouth.com> said:
>>
>>Did you see contract Bjarne has with this developer? Did contract terms
>>prevent him from developing his own software in the same field? Without
>>all these legaleeze stuff it is worth nothing debating here. This is a
>>legal issue, and it should be decided in court. This is the only sensible
>>way.
>>
>People,
>
>This behaviour in public is very unbecoming. The slander and libel being
>committed is very unprofessional, not forgetting the re-opening of the
>cold war in this thread. The unprofessionalism is probably the root
>cause of the problem.
>
>Ivan's contribution so far has been the most sensible, which is why I
>have chosen to add to it. I have read all the subsequent posts.
>
>If one accepts patent law as the norm for good business practice, then
>the ownership of the code belongs with the entity that commissioned the
>work. This would tend to favour Bjarne's case. But,  that can be
>overturned by any contract between Fx and the coder. No one, so far, has
>offered proof of ownership and if there is no contract then Fx only have
>themselves to blame for the predicament that they now find themselves
>in.
>
>Allusions to e-mails and accusations of theft without proof of ownership
>is not the way to resolve this issue.
>
>Was the code based on an IBM NDIS developer kit, however obtained? Then
>who owns the code? Does the contract specify exclusivity? Does the
>contract specify how the partnership will be dissolved? I suspect that
>there is no contract, in which case Bjarne has learnt an expensive
>lesson and there is no obligation on LGS not to sell the product. 
>
>If this kit was obtained unofficially from helpful IBM employees  and
>passed on to LGS then some careers in IBM are being jeopardised.
>
>The fact that LGS were able to publish working code first and the Fx
>product was delayed seems to point to the fact that all the work was
>being done in the Ukraine.
>
>Language difficulties and point scoring have not helped but please stop
>squabbleling like schoolboys in the playground, this is not forwarding
>either sides case and we are all losers, including OS/2.
>
>In the absence of proof of ownership this trial by media will not
>achieve justice for either party and no right minded person will be
>swayed by the propaganda and emotionalism which is all that we have
>heard so far. Put up or shut up.
>
>Best regards to all, 
>
>Eric.

Eric,
your post is all very well and good..
it even sounds resonable in legal terms (just as resonable as letting O.J.
Simpson legally get away with murder)

except for one part: fairness and what is just naturally right:

its just naturally not right to take money from one company and then deliver
his product to another . . . no matter how legal you wanna make it sound!



--
DenverD AT delphi DOT com
All addresses are anti-spam spoofs...you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!

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From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com                       31-Dec-99 05:58:19
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:19
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD )

In message <05C6FUhLDNUU-pn2-kv81Rm7di1Td@localhost> - wsonna@ibm.net
(William Sonna) writes:
>
>On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:04:25, "David D. Huff Jr." <huffd@nls.net> 
>wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> THIS IS A HUGE ADMISSION OF GUILT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING?
IT IS
>> UNETHICAL TO DEVELOP TECHNOLOGY WITH ONE COMPANY TO SELL TO ANOTHER!
>
>Not necessarily. Any and all expertise can be construed to be paid for
>by others if it was acquired on the job.
>
>But that isn't going to stop workers from taking new jobs doing 
>similar work every day.  Nor is it going to stop an apprentice 
>handyman (who learned to paint while working on your apt building) 
>from painting the halls of the apartment building that's luring your 
>tenants away.
>
>So, objectively:
>
>Are the programs, in fact, identical? (Evidence please)
>
>Was Sergey employed as an independent contractor or as an employee? 
>(Evidence, please)
>
>What explicit non-disclosure agreement did Sergey sign and 
>subsequently violate? (Evidence, please)
>
>What implied (ie, industry standard IN THE LOCATION THE WORK WAS BEING
>DONE) non-disclosure agreement did Sergey violate? (Evidence, please. 
>Hold the rhetoric.)
>
>What personal understanding between Sergey and Bjarne did Sergey 
>violate? (Evidence please.  Hold the rhetoric).
>
>How and why do the answers to the above preclude the possibility of 
>dual ownership? (Evidence AND rhetoric, please)
>
>What legal action has Bjarne initiated against Sergey? (Evidence 
>please.  Hold the rhetoric).
>
>The answers to these questions should be used determine whether Sergey
>is a thief or Bjarne is a slanderer.
>
>And the facts will generally speak more loudly and clearly than the 
>claims of the parties.
>

Will,
I've seen your post here for year and now you inject a thoughtful note into
this sea of confusion..

unfortunately we here as an on line community will probably never have full
access to the the contract (written or verbal) nor what was implied OR
understood by the parties..

also unfortunate is the fact that whatever Bjarne said or wrote into a
contract it could have been understood by him as "if you paint my hall with
MY newly created way to paint, you can never use that knowledge anywhere
else" and misunderstood by the kind folks in that ex-Union of Truth and
Fairness as "say what you want now, when the job is finished and I'm paid I'm
gonna get rich off this stuff"

it just ain't fair, no matter how legal you make it sound.

--
DenverD AT delphi DOT com
All addresses are anti-spam spoofs...you gotta fix'em up to mail me...sorry!

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From: kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com               30-Dec-99 22:09:23
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:19
Subj: Re: PMFAX - printing

From: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet.com>

On Thu, 30 Dec 99 21:25:01 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

>RE: Re: PMFAX - printing
>BY: "Kim Cheung" <kimwaicSpamGoToGarbage@deltanet
>
>>I would assume the original poster meant invoking the print function from
>>within PMFax.   In that case, it would have nothing to do with the PrintFax
>>printer object - that's only if you want to fax something from another
>>application (like a word processor).    
>>Unless the version you use is different than my, it SHOULD use LPT3 by
>>default.
>
>Hmm the way the pmfax driver works, you just have to drag and drop the this
>file to the pmfax printer icon?
>
>

WHICH printing function are you talking about exactly?   You need to be more
specific what you did before others can help you.


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From: cwr@crash.cts.com                                 31-Dec-99 06:47:09
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 03:17:19
Subj: Re: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: Will Rose <cwr@crash.cts.com>

judithr@primenet.com wrote:

:>judithr@primenet.com wrote:

:>: On 27 Dec 1999 10:18:37 GMT, Will Rose wrote:


:>: FWIW, mine works.  Warp4, FP12. -- or the spellcheck works, and I
:>: assume that uses the dictionary. If you saved the old dll folder
:>: someplace, replace the new etke603.dll  with the old one and the
:>: toolbar buffet will work again also.   Fixpaks always break that.  

:>No, I've now backlevelled epm.exe and all the etk* dlls, and no
:>joy. I've also tried backlevelling DOSCALL1.DLL and VIOCALLS.DLL,
:>which are used by lexam.dll.  Which version (size, date) of
:>LEXAM.DLL are you using, and where did you get it?

: I have oslexam.dll of 106999bytes with a 1993 date. I can zip up the
: entire dll folder from OS/2 apps with all the ones I have that work
: and put it in my anon. ftp directory on Primenet for you if you
: wish.  It would be a little big to email, but I could try that if
: anon ftp won't work for you. 

Ok, problem solved.  I've been using LEXAM.DLL, size 67584, dated
4-22-88.  This no longer works in 4.0 FP 12; however, OSLEXAM.DLL
(which exports the same LEXAM entry point as LEXAM.DLL) has size
106991, is dated 5-24-93, and works.  It's part of the IBMWORKS
package, and uses the IBMWORKS dictionary, but EPM apparently needs
it to be in the same directory as its other DLLs; I had to copy
OSLEXAM.DLL into the same directory as ETK*.DLL.

Glad that one's solved.  Thanks for the help.


Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

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From: stan                                              01-Jan-128 01:02:29
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 14:29:28
Subj: Re: InnoVal To Offer Low-Cost OS/2 ISP Service!

From: stan

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:50:09, bcallen@attglobal.net (Barbara Allen) 
wrote:

> In message
> <BGtODEdD7Dku-pn2-hUqXLHOHx3Gd@n449.telekabel.euronet.nl> -
> News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) writes:
> :>
> :>
> :>> stan wrote:
> :>>
> :>> I've missed all this can someone pls provide a url for this isp
> :>
> :>See that you are using ProNews. If you (or your ISP's newsserver)
> :>missed something in the trhead you can easily "backtrack". Rightclick
> :>in the message window and select "Explore thread". It will pop up your
> :>webengine (provided you told it where to find the application you prefer
> :>to surf the www with) with the thread on Deja showing in the window. 
> :>
> :>Regards from Leeuwarden
> :>Peter van Dobben de Bruijn
> :>---
> :>usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (.at. becomes @)
> :>----
> 
> It also might help to try this:
> 
> http://safe123.net/os2/index.html
> 
> Barbara
> 

thanks for the tip

stan...

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From: jasper_de_keijzer@nl.compuware.com                31-Dec-99 14:31:02
  To: osric@apk.net                                     31-Dec-99 14:29:28
Subj: Re: StarDraw vrs. CorelDraw5?

To: osric@apk.net
From: Jasper de Keijzer <jasper_de_keijzer@nl.compuware.com>

Tarquelne,

If you miss things in DrawIt or need features which are not available,
please e-mail me. I'm currently busy implementing a WMF filter because I
think it is nice to have, not because someone asked me. In general it
would be nice when users send mail with wishes than I know as developer
whether or not I go in the right direction.

regards,
Jasper


Tarquelne wrote:

> >Why don't you have a look at DrawIt?
>
> I bought DrawIt, as a matter of fact.
> Unfortunatly, though, its not as well suited as CorelDraw5
> to a number of my projects.
>
>                                             Tarquelne
>                                        <osric@apk.net>
>         I know how God can make a rock so big He can't move it.
>                                   ************************
> Use the address above to reply - not the anti-spam "Reply-to" address
> ___________________________________________________________
> "There are only six Democrats in all of Hinsdale county,
> and you, you son of a bitch, you ate five of them." - Colorado
> judge, sentencing Alfred E. Packer for cannibalism, 1874

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From: garygreen@home.com                                31-Dec-99 14:10:06
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 14:29:28
Subj: Re: OPCONSOL.EXE

From: "Gary Green" <garygreen@home.com>

OPCONSOL, now that's a program I've not thought about for a while...  Well,
I gotta tell ya, it's been a while since I've worked on OPCONSOL; gotta pay
the mortgage you know and it's difficult paying it on money earned from some
of my past OS/2 work.

Also, I had a very severe system crash which left me with missing source
code, most of it for OPCONSOL. Anyone out there capable of recovering an
HPFS formatted drive which lost it's partition table structure when I
attempted to install NT Client software.

So, to answer your question, there has been no 'official' release of
OPCONSOL, yet.  Hopefully soon (which is similar to what I said about a year
ago).

Gary Green
EverGreen Systems


John Poltorak wrote in message <386b7819.0@katana.legend.co.uk>...
>Has anyone come across OPCONSOL?
>
>It has been available on Hobbes for a number of years, and provides the
>OS/2 equivalent of an MVS Operator's Console, and is quite a handy utility
>in terms of telling which files are loaded and how much system resource
they
>have used.
>
>The license details include this section:
>
>You are granted a license to try this program (OPCONSOL) until it is
>released as a commercial product or as Shareware, after which time
>you MUST register it or discontinue its use.  A Drop-Dead date will
>be included in the next version of the software.
>
>The version on Hobbes is 1.02.1. Has anyone ever come 'the *next* version'
?
>
>--
>John
>
>
>
>


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From: hemo_jr@attglobal.net                             31-Dec-99 08:49:01
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 14:29:28
Subj: Re: EPM Spellchecker --Link File Not Found

From: "Matt Hickman" <hemo_jr@attglobal.net>

In <84hjhm$1ek3$1@thoth.cts.com>, on 12/31/99 
   at 06:47 AM, Will Rose <cwr@crash.cts.com> said:


>Ok, problem solved.  I've been using LEXAM.DLL, size 67584, dated 4-22-88. 
>This no longer works in 4.0 FP 12; however, OSLEXAM.DLL (which exports the
>same LEXAM entry point as LEXAM.DLL) has size 106991, is dated 5-24-93, and
>works.  It's part of the IBMWORKS package, and uses the IBMWORKS
>dictionary, but EPM apparently needs it to be in the same directory as its
>other DLLs; I had to copy OSLEXAM.DLL into the same directory as ETK*.DLL.

I'm glad your problem is solved.  But is there a place where this
OSLEXAM.DLL can be downloaded?

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From: madodel@ptdprolog.net                             31-Dec-99 15:33:02
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 14:29:28
Subj: Re: OPCONSOL.EXE

From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel)

Gary,

Glad to see you are still around.  Just to let you know OPCONSOL 
1.02.1 runs fine on my Warp Server ebusiness SMP machine.  Since I'm 
not doing much mainframe programming anylonger, it is a blast to see 
that operators console window on my pc.    

You might be able to recover that data with Chris Graham's Utilities, 
assuming you have a bootable OS/2 partition to run them from.    Also 
I have heard that CHKDSK /F:3 may resurrect data off an HPFS 
partition, but I have never done this.  You might want to contact 
Chris for advise - chrisg@warpspeed.com.au

Mark

On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:10:13, "Gary Green" <garygreen@home.com> wrote:

-)OPCONSOL, now that's a program I've not thought about for a while...  Well,
-)I gotta tell ya, it's been a while since I've worked on OPCONSOL; gotta pay
-)the mortgage you know and it's difficult paying it on money earned from some
-)of my past OS/2 work.
-)
-)Also, I had a very severe system crash which left me with missing source
-)code, most of it for OPCONSOL. Anyone out there capable of recovering an
-)HPFS formatted drive which lost it's partition table structure when I
-)attempted to install NT Client software.
-)
-)So, to answer your question, there has been no 'official' release of
-)OPCONSOL, yet.  Hopefully soon (which is similar to what I said about a year
-)ago).
-)
-)Gary Green
-)EverGreen Systems
-)
-)
-)John Poltorak wrote in message <386b7819.0@katana.legend.co.uk>...
-)>Has anyone come across OPCONSOL?
-)>
-)>It has been available on Hobbes for a number of years, and provides the
-)>OS/2 equivalent of an MVS Operator's Console, and is quite a handy utility
-)>in terms of telling which files are loaded and how much system resource
-)they
-)>have used.
-)>
-)>The license details include this section:
-)>
-)>You are granted a license to try this program (OPCONSOL) until it is
-)>released as a commercial product or as Shareware, after which time
-)>you MUST register it or discontinue its use.  A Drop-Dead date will
-)>be included in the next version of the software.
-)>
-)>The version on Hobbes is 1.02.1. Has anyone ever come 'the *next* version'
-)?
-)>
-)>--
-)>John
-)>
-)>
-)>
-)>
-)
-)

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From: wsonna@ibm.net                                    31-Dec-99 15:34:24
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 14:29:28
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: wsonna@ibm.net (William Sonna)

On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 05:58:39, dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD ) 
wrote:

[snip]

> unfortunately we here as an on line community will probably never have full
> access to the the contract (written or verbal) nor what was implied OR
> understood by the parties..
> 

A decision to pirate someone else's software for profit, a decision to
flame and publicly denounce a hostile competitor, a decision to 
quietly seek legal remedy, are, ultimately, all business decisions.

And while I don't doubt that Bjarne feels betrayed, and may well have 
a legitimate beef with Mr Sergey, my upbringing and the traditions of 
my culture (the U.S.) dictate that the burden of proof is on the 
accuser.

That's why I will personally reserve judgment until I know the facts 
(as outlined in my previous post).

> also unfortunate is the fact that whatever Bjarne said or wrote into a
> contract it could have been understood by him as "if you paint my hall with
> MY newly created way to paint, you can never use that knowledge anywhere
> else" and misunderstood by the kind folks in that ex-Union of Truth and
> Fairness as "say what you want now, when the job is finished and I'm paid
I'm
> gonna get rich off this stuff"
> 

I agree completely.

The purpose of a written contract is to eliminate, superceed or 
enhance implied understandings, ie, the "could have" you refer to 
above.

Did someone violate a written agreement?  I don't know the answer to 
that question, and I think its an important (although not the only 
important) point.

> it just ain't fair, no matter how legal you make it sound.

Someone stealing someone else's property, passing it off as their own,
and making money off it?  I agree, it ain't fair.

Someone publicly slandering someone and using their influence with key
software distributors to obstruct a legitimate competitor?  I agree, 
it ain't fair.

Since I don't know the facts, all I REALLY know is that there's a lot 
of dirty laundry floating around, and it don't smell like roses.

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From: garygreen@home.com                                31-Dec-99 15:47:05
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 14:29:28
Subj: Re: OPCONSOL.EXE

From: "Gary Green" <garygreen@home.com>

Well,  I just got off the phone with someone at an old Client site and just
happened to mention OPCONSOL (they're running it on multiple systems in
production). Anyway, he said they have an old backup CD of a workstation was
using while working on-site and it may contain some/most of the source code
for the latest version on OPCONSOL.

If this turns out to be true, then I all I need do is get another drive for
my Dell Laptop so I can install OS/2 on it and I'm back in business.  I'll
have plenty of time on my hands at my latest client (it's out of the area
and I'll be there all week with nothing better to do after hours).

So, does anyone out there in, the remaining, OS2 land have any additional
suggestions for improving OPCONSOL?

Gary Green
EverGreen Systems

>OPCONSOL, now that's a program I've not thought about for a while...  Well,
>I gotta tell ya, it's been a while since I've worked on OPCONSOL; gotta pay
>the mortgage you know and it's difficult paying it on money earned from
some
>of my past OS/2 work.
>
>Also, I had a very severe system crash which left me with missing source
>code, most of it for OPCONSOL. Anyone out there capable of recovering an
>HPFS formatted drive which lost it's partition table structure when I
>attempted to install NT Client software.
>
>So, to answer your question, there has been no 'official' release of
>OPCONSOL, yet.  Hopefully soon (which is similar to what I said about a
year
>ago).
>
>Gary Green
>EverGreen Systems
>
>
>John Poltorak wrote in message <386b7819.0@katana.legend.co.uk>...
>>Has anyone come across OPCONSOL?
>>
>>It has been available on Hobbes for a number of years, and provides the
>>OS/2 equivalent of an MVS Operator's Console, and is quite a handy utility
>>in terms of telling which files are loaded and how much system resource
>they
>>have used.
>>
>>The license details include this section:
>>
>>You are granted a license to try this program (OPCONSOL) until it is
>>released as a commercial product or as Shareware, after which time
>>you MUST register it or discontinue its use.  A Drop-Dead date will
>>be included in the next version of the software.
>>
>>The version on Hobbes is 1.02.1. Has anyone ever come 'the *next* version'
>?
>>
>>--
>>John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com                              31-Dec-99 15:49:23
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 14:29:28
Subj: Re: StarDraw vrs. CorelDraw5?

From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com

In <386873A9.D456DE30@nl.compuware.com>, Jasper de Keijzer
<jasper_de_keijzer@nl.compuware.com> writes:
>Why don't you have a look at DrawIt?
>http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/drawit.html
>
>regards,
>Jasper de Keijzer.
>

Hi Jasper,

I took a look at Drawit. It appears to be a nice, clean application.
For basic drawing, it seems quite adequate. For advanced effects,
the feature set is slim compared to corel. For example, corel has
an envelope feature for stretching text into any shape. I didn't
see this one in drawit.

Probably not a fair comparison. Corel is quite expensive.

Hope you will continue to develop your product.

Keith

Keith Cotroneo
cotroneo@stny.rr.com

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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            31-Dec-99 11:13:27
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 16:54:16
Subj: Last "Free" IBMAV Update?

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

Released December 29th:

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/antivirus_definitions/ibmav/av3
0fe.zip

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From: da@bit_bucket.net                                 31-Dec-99 18:25:00
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 16:54:16
Subj: Re: New beta of SafeFire PPP - with GUI client now!

From: da@bit_bucket.net

On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 05:58:39, dropThis.DenverD@Delphi.com (DenverD ) 
wrote:

 
Quotedlalso unfortunate is the fact that whatever Bjarne said or wrote into a
Quotedlcontract it could have been understood by him as "if you paint my hall 
with
QuotedlMY newly created way to paint, you can never use that knowledge
anywhere
Quotedlelse" and misunderstood by the kind folks in that ex-Union of Truth
and
QuotedlFairness as "say what you want now, when the job is finished and I'm
paid I'm
Quotedlgonna get rich off this stuff"

The only problem I see with you're analogy is that it would be an 
unenforcable contract since it isn't 'legal' to bind someone to a 
perpetual lifetime noncompetitve clause!    ;^)
 
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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     31-Dec-99 19:08:01
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 16:54:16
Subj: Re: PMFAX - printing

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:25:01, "Dilbert Firestorm" 
<wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:

> I did kill the pmfax driver tho.   I guess I should re-install it to another
> lpt port.  
>  

I think the PMFAX driver should be attached to LPT3:. The LPT3: thing 
is only used if you want to print to the FAX (to send a FAX) with a 
WinOS2 program. In order to use it, you need to configure WinOS2 to 
have either a PROPRINTER X24 on LPT3.OS2, or a PostScript printer on 
LPT3:.OS2 (I use the proprinter). You just use the FXPrint printer to 
FAX from an OS/2 program, and the LPT3: thing isn't really used.

To print a FAX, that has been received by PMFax, all you do is display
the FAX, and select print to your normal printer (unless you want to 
FAX it to someone, in which case, you would print it to FXPrint). 
PMFax can be set up to print a FAX, when it is received, if you want 
it to do that (a colossal waste of paper, and ink, most of the time).

Hope this helps...
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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               31-Dec-99 15:13:22
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 19:52:06
Subj: Re: PMFAX - printing

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

RE: Re: PMFAX - printing
BY: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

>I think the PMFAX driver should be attached to LPT3:. The LPT3: thing 
>is only used if you want to print to the FAX (to send a FAX) with a 
>WinOS2 program. In order to use it, you need to configure WinOS2 to 
>have either a PROPRINTER X24 on LPT3.OS2, or a PostScript printer on 
>LPT3:.OS2 (I use the proprinter). You just use the FXPrint printer to 
>FAX from an OS/2 program, and the LPT3: thing isn't really used.
>To print a FAX, that has been received by PMFax, all you do is display
>the FAX, and select print to your normal printer (unless you want to 
>FAX it to someone, in which case, you would print it to FXPrint). 
>PMFax can be set up to print a FAX, when it is received, if you want 
>it to do that (a colossal waste of paper, and ink, most of the time).
>Hope this helps...

Ok thanx for the info on the fxprint driver.  I wasn't very clear on how that
worked.

As suggested, I put fxprint on lpt3.   I guess that should take care of it.

anyways, the printer is now working fine.  You're right about printing the fax
to printer.. boy, did that take awhile.



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From: wwiv@pppproject.org                               31-Dec-99 16:15:05
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 19:52:06
Subj: TZ variable

From: "Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org>

Anybody know what this tz  variable?

I noticed it when using unzip and various programs (blue wave/2, etc.)that use
unzip.



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From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu                             31-Dec-99 22:40:29
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 19:52:06
Subj: Re: TZ variable

From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu

Dilbert Firestorm writes:

> Anybody know what this tz  variable?

Stands for "Time Zone".  Suppose you're in Los Angeles and download a
file from a site in New York immediately after it's created.  Assume
both computers are set to local time.  You would then have a file with
a timestamp for the future.  Most of the time it doesn't matter, but
sometimes it does.

If you're in Eastern time, use:

TZ=EST5

If you're in Pacific time, use:

TZ=PST8

and so on.  Locations that observe Daylight Savings Time can append the
abbreviation for the variant:

TZ=EST5EDT
TZ=PST8PDT

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From: dcasey@ibm.net                                    31-Dec-99 23:25:04
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 21:36:27
Subj: Re: TZ variable

From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)

In article <386d2af0-nukewaste@wwivbbs.org>,
"Dilbert Firestorm" <wwiv@pppproject.org> wrote:
>Anybody know what this tz  variable?
>
>I noticed it when using unzip and various programs (blue wave/2, etc.)that
use
>unzip.

TZ=TimeZone .... it's set in config.sys to reflect your timezone in
relation to GMT.

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From: sbaker@pcug.org.au                                01-Jan-128 10:48:12
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 21:36:27
Subj: Re: TZ variable

From: "Shane Baker" <sbaker@pcug.org.au>

On Fri, 31 Dec 99 16:15:11 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:

>Anybody know what this tz  variable?
>
>I noticed it when using unzip and various programs (blue wave/2, etc.)that
use
>unzip.

Download an app called Time868 and it comes with a little utility which will
provide you with the code to insert into your CONFIG.SYS file.

Happy new year

Shane Baker
Canberra - Australia's national capital
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From: chdove@home.com                                   01-Jan-128 00:04:09
  To: All                                               31-Dec-99 21:36:27
Subj: Re: TZ variable

From: chdove@home.com (Clive Dove)

On Sun, 1 Jan 3900 10:48:24, "Shane Baker" <sbaker@pcug.org.au> 
wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Dec 99 16:15:11 (cst), Dilbert Firestorm wrote:
> 
> >Anybody know what this tz  variable?
> >
> >I noticed it when using unzip and various programs (blue wave/2, etc.)that
use
> >unzip.
> 
> Download an app called Time868 and it comes with a little utility which will
> provide you with the code to insert into your CONFIG.SYS file.
> 
> Happy new year
> 
> Shane Baker
> Canberra - Australia's national capital
> _____________________________
> sbakerATpcug.org.au - please make the obvious change when replying
> Australian Pets newsgroup - aus.pets  <<>>  Australian Dogs Page -
http://www.pcug.org.au/~sbaker/dogs.htm
> 
> 
> 

TZ is a system variable that is set in your config.sys

An example, for Eastern Time in the US, is as folows:

SET TZ=EST5EDT

In other words, the above entry tells the system that the machine
is operating in a time zone 5 hours east of Greenwich, that its 
winter time is abbreviated as EST and its summer time is 
abbreviated as EDT. 
Time zones west of greenwich have a minus sign before the 
numeral.

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