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From: play@thebeach                                     24-Dec-99 16:49:12
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Can't format Drive, beyond cylindar 1023 or above 2048MB...HELP!

From: play@thebeach (S. Sandler)


I have installed Fixpack 12 and all the latest drivers.  I have a 8.5 GB hard
drive and once I have set up OS/2 for 1GB, I can't format the rest of the
drive for useage.

FDISK works fine but it won't format.

The problem error I get is

partition exceeds 2048 MB or is beyond cylinder 1023

How do I format the thing?


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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           24-Dec-99 17:15:13
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:00
Subj: Re: Can't format Drive, beyond cylindar 1023 or above 2048MB...HELP!

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 16:49:24, play@thebeach (S. Sandler) wrote:

> 
> 
> I have installed Fixpack 12 and all the latest drivers.  I have a 8.5 GB
hard
> drive and once I have set up OS/2 for 1GB, I can't format the rest of the
> drive for useage.
> 
> FDISK works fine but it won't format.
> 
> The problem error I get is
> 
> partition exceeds 2048 MB or is beyond cylinder 1023
> 
> How do I format the thing?

This sounds like you are trying to format the disk as a
FAT file system (which is limited to 2048 MB)

Try formatting as HPFS

FORMAT X: /FS:HPFS

Where X is your drive letter...

--

Lorne Sunley

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From: play@thebeach                                     25-Dec-99 04:16:13
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: Can't format Drive, beyond cylindar 1023 or above 2048MB...HELP!

From: play@thebeach (S. Sandler)

Yes true but what I also have to add is that I use a boot manager so C: is
OS/2 or when I have to, windoze.  I then want my other part of the HD 8.5 GB
so I can put my wordperfect, spreadsheets etc. on so they can be accessed by
both operating systems.

HPFS will work for OS/2 but windoze won't reconize it.  

Why is it then that under windoze, I can format the D: for 8.5 GB and it looks
great but OS/2 won't reconize the format or D:?


-This sounds like you are trying to format the disk as a
-FAT file system (which is limited to 2048 MB)
-
-Try formatting as HPFS
-
-FORMAT X: /FS:HPFS

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From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca                           25-Dec-99 08:32:00
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 03:27:01
Subj: Re: Can't format Drive, beyond cylindar 1023 or above 2048MB...HELP!

From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 04:16:27, play@thebeach (S. Sandler) wrote:

> Yes true but what I also have to add is that I use a boot manager so C: is
> OS/2 or when I have to, windoze.  I then want my other part of the HD 8.5 GB
> so I can put my wordperfect, spreadsheets etc. on so they can be accessed by
> both operating systems.
> 
> HPFS will work for OS/2 but windoze won't reconize it.  
> 
> Why is it then that under windoze, I can format the D: for 8.5 GB and it
looks
> great but OS/2 won't reconize the format or D:?
> 
> 

When you are formating with Windows 95/98 you are
using the FAT32 format for the partition. This is a
Windows 95/98 only format (not recognized by anyone else
including Windows NT).

Real FAT will only work with a maximum of 2048 MB
and this is the only native file system that is native to
both OS/2 and Windows.

The FAT32 format can be recognized by OS/2 if you install
one of the FAT32 IFS (file system drivers). There
are two that I know of. They are available at

http://hobbes.nmsu.edu

Do a search for FAT32 and you should be able to
find them. These are third party file system drivers
and are not included with Warp.

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Lorne Sunley

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From: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygon...               26-Dec-99 00:01:07
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 05:19:04
Subj: Re: Can't format Drive, beyond cylindar 1023 or above 2048MB...HELP!

Message sender: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net

From: "Mike Ruskai" <retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net>

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 16:49:24 GMT, S. Sandler wrote:

>
>I have installed Fixpack 12 and all the latest drivers.  I have a 8.5 GB hard
>drive and once I have set up OS/2 for 1GB, I can't format the rest of the
>drive for useage.
>
>FDISK works fine but it won't format.
>
>The problem error I get is
>
>partition exceeds 2048 MB or is beyond cylinder 1023
>
>How do I format the thing?

format /fs:hpfs

You cannot create a FAT partition larger than 2GB.  If you do not
explicitly specify HPFS as the filesystem to use, it will assume you mean
FAT, for compatibility reasons.

I recommend the /L switch, even though it will take a long time.  That
will find any bad sectors that might be on the drive.


--
 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.


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From: abeagley@optonline.net                            26-Dec-99 17:08:10
  To: All                                               26-Dec-99 16:43:06
Subj: Re: Copying system to a new hard drive

From: Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net>

XCOPY works, but the disadvantage is that all your newly created
directories on the target drive will have a new date and time. Drive
Image preserves the old date and time info.

Alan


Seth Hetherington wrote:
> 
> I have Warp 4 FP10 on a 5.1 gig drive.  This drive is partitioned to
> include other operating systems and boot manager.  I would like to
> copy this system to a new 18 gig drive: same setup, but bigger
> partitions.  Some partitions are HPFS, some FAT and one for Linux.
> 
> How can I do this?  Is this a procedure for XCopy?  If you have done
> this before, please provide detailed instructions/warnings.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Seth Hetherington

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From: shether@NOSPAMmed.unc.edu                         27-Dec-99 21:55:03
  To: All                                               27-Dec-99 22:22:29
Subj: Re: Copying system to a new hard drive

From: shether@NOSPAMmed.unc.edu (Seth Hetherington)

I got Drive copy to work, but not without some difficulty.  My set up:

	Primary Partition		Boot  Manager	7MB
C:	Primary partition	FAT	DOS/WIN	200MB
hid	Primary partition	FAT	WIN95		251MB
D:	Logical Drive		HPFS	OS2		300MB
E:	Logical Drive		FAT	Win data	2000MB
F:	Logical Drive		HPFS	OS/2 data	2000MB
G:	Logical Drive		HPFS	Swapper	149MB

Problem was, when I used DriveCopy, Boot manager and the Primary 
partitions copied OK, although they would not resize.  The Logical 
Drives got lumped together and I couldn't get the OS/2 logical drive 
added to boot manager.

The solution:

Boot OS/2 from utility disks (updates with drivers to handle large 
drives >8.4MB)
On the new 20 gig drive, create the partitions I wanted with the 
desired sizes.
Shut down, add old drive (as slave).
Boot from DriveCopy boot disk.
Copy each partition from the old drive, on-by-one, to the new drive.  
Note:
	each time, Drive Copy says it will destroy the partition, which is 
OK.
	With each copy procedure, tell DriveCopy to resize the old partition 
to be copied to fill the new partition.  It did this correctly for the
HPFS partitions, but not the Win FAT partitions.  Not sure why.  For 
the latter, DC just left free space.  Also, all partitions should be 
hidden after copy procedure.

Exit program.  Shut off computer.
Remove old drive.  Set new drive as only drive (jumper settings).
Boot with OS/2 utility disks.
Run FDisk, adding each primary partition and the OS/2 logical drive to
Boot Manager.

Not all that simple, but it worked.  I still had trouble with the 
resizing of partitions.  This seemed to work somewhat randomly.

Has anyone else had resizing problems? Any solutions?

Thanks to all who contributed ideas.

Seth Hetherington

On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:08:21, Alan Beagley <abeagley@optonline.net> 
wrote:

> XCOPY works, but the disadvantage is that all your newly created
> directories on the target drive will have a new date and time. Drive
> Image preserves the old date and time info.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> Seth Hetherington wrote:
> > 
> > I have Warp 4 FP10 on a 5.1 gig drive.  This drive is partitioned to
> > include other operating systems and boot manager.  I would like to
> > copy this system to a new 18 gig drive: same setup, but bigger
> > partitions.  Some partitions are HPFS, some FAT and one for Linux.
> > 
> > How can I do this?  Is this a procedure for XCopy?  If you have done
> > this before, please provide detailed instructions/warnings.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Seth Hetherington

Seth Hetherington

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From: play@thebeach                                     28-Dec-99 04:31:16
  To: All                                               28-Dec-99 02:36:14
Subj: Re: Can't format Drive, beyond cylindar 1023 or above 2048MB...HELP!

From: play@thebeach (S. Sandler)

Oh thank you so verry much.  It solved my problem immensly.  It works
perfectely now and it is even better that windoze is taken down another notch
that OS/2 still works.  HA HA.

Please let me know if there is anything I can do for you in return.  Just ask.
Now I have to get back to trying to get my ADSL to work under OS/2 like I have
in windoze.

Thank you again.

-Real FAT will only work with a maximum of 2048 MB
-and this is the only native file system that is native to
-both OS/2 and Windows.
-
-The FAT32 format can be recognized by OS/2 if you install
-one of the FAT32 IFS (file system drivers). There
-are two that I know of. They are available at
-
-http://hobbes.nmsu.edu

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From: bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net                        28-Dec-99 18:29:12
  To: All                                               29-Dec-99 00:20:04
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>

Will Honea wrote:

> mark davidson wrote:
 
> > you are correct.  as i'm intel-stupid, might you be able to list which
> > of their chipsets does not suffer the memory caching limitation of the
> > TX series?
 
> That would be the blind leading the blind.  I know the TX set is
> limited to 64 meg cached and I THINK the same holds true for the FX
> series.  The (old) HX series were OK but I've lost track in the last
> few years.
 
IIRC, all Intel pre-Pentium 2 chipsets except HX suffer the 64 Mb caching
limitation: TX, VX, FX, Neptune & whatever else there was before those.
You won't find anything that supports UDMA 66 that has the limitation.

The last two boards I bought were Tyan: S1590S with K6-2 450, and
S1846S with Pentium 3 450. Neither support past UDMA 33, but current
drives can't come close to saturating the UDMA 33 bus anyway. Plus, I
use SCSI.
-- 
He who despises his neighbor sins, but blessed is he who is kind to the
needy.                Proverbs 14:3 NKJV

 Team OS/2

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net

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